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If you are new, please make sure you read:https://lolcow.farm/info
22 year old "family friendly pet mom" Youtuber, her creepy controlling mother, and her obsession with her new found sobriety.
Previous thread: >>>/pt/714080
The basics:> Taylor is a notorious animal hoarder known for collecting 40+ rare and exotic pets and manhandling/mistreating them for the sake of her Youtube channel which has over 1 million subscribers. Many pets have died in her care, many more have fallen ill due to her neglect or disappeared after "rehoming" them. Fails to give proper enclosures for many of her pets, including overstuffing fish tanks, keeping her kittens locked in the bathroom, and her mouse and hedgehog in the closet.> Jonny Craig, who has very recently become Taylor’s ex and has moved in with his dad in NY state, was the frontman of the band Slaves and is most well-known for being an outspoken abusive junkie. He got Taylor into drugs and she became a heroin addict, but stated that she used a variety of drugs.> She left sober living after rehoming around 12 animals to be “back with her animals” living at her mom's house, her animals all seem to be crammed into one room.> Taylor loves to throw pity parties for herself and dodge around the real issues when faced with criticism about her husbandry, hoarding, and hypocrisy. She can never keep her stories straight and will tell outright lies only to contradict them hours later. Her fans are sycophants who only encourage her.
Facebook (private:) https://www.facebook.com/Taylor.Nicole.Dean
List of all Taylor's pets:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QNUksDcQk_cqLTkTFTiPjP2pCGBQgORyCesIIqvZ2Zs/edit?pli=1
Requires update of new frog, tarantula, crabs dying and all the fish outside of the 150 “rehomed”
Stats of Taylor’s pets and history:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1e8bakM4GHa2J1y4qwYsB-T0jSpN5uWCI_q0dv-odij4/htmlview#
> Punctured Tofu's lung injecting RI medicine while high on heroin, then drives car to hospital high. Blames hospital for all of this >>715622 / >>715689 / >>715691 / >>715767 / >>715688> Couldn't tell if Kronos, Tofu or Gucci were sick >>715762> Told now former stan Destry she would pay for medical care for the blood python, doesn't follow through >>715608 / >>716137> Flies into a massive narc rage after Destry came out with the tofu milk, threatens Destry >>715830> Projects, lies about Destry's animals >>715840 / >>715706 / >>715846> Calls Destry a liar >>715748 / >>715831 / >>715844 , guilt trips her >>715758 / >>715866> Calls Bree a liar >>715906> Admits to driving while high more than once, claiming she was fine >>715782 while also contradicting herself >>715793> Talks about privacy >>715898 yet she or one of her stans doxxes a minor >>715983 / >>716409> Mama dean joins in on the bullying >>715903 / >>715923 / >>715952 / >>716034 / >>716131> Gets on her druggie burner phone to continue harrassment after Destry blocks her >>715958 / >>716029 / >>716030 / >>716031 / >>716032 / >>716033 / >>716075> Claims she is too mature to react while continuing to react >>716074 / >>716070> Threatens legal action we all know will never happen >>715945 / >>715959 / >>716431> Dms leaked of her shit talking in her narcsupply groupchat >>716182 / >>716186 / >>716190> Claims not to check lolcow after sperging about Onision for days >>715982 / >>708569> Taylor and her stans mass report Destry's alternate account >>716217> Destry backpedals hard to avoid the narc rage >>716498 / >>716510 / >>716584 / >>716589
> Recent Known additions to the hoard of animals: new cowfish >>707579> Recent Known Deaths:> Recent Known “Rehomed”: confirmed in addiction video >>694095
Unconfirmed Milk:> Is Taylor lurking on lolcow? >>708601> Still getting fillers and denying it? >>708975 / >>709273>Twisty's tail was broken under Taylor's care? >>715625 >Neglect of her snakes, croc skinks and frog, matching Breezexotics' claims >>715627 / >>715629>Taylor getting blackout with bropeen in August? >>715634
All Previous Threads:
General Pettuber Thread:>>>/snow/831551
Thanks for the new thread anon.>>716601
Narcs like Taylor will never play fair, they're making an example out of her at this point.
She needs to stand up for herself and tell Taylor and her mom to fuck off. Giving in to their demands won't save you.
you're a retard. read the op, all destry screenshots except tofu ones are under uncomfirmed milk. tofu fucking turning blue was confirmed by video and by taylor herself.
people may be speculating, but nobody just believes random screenshots
oh man missed opportunity. Hopefully she keeps going off about him on twitter, maybe it could be a future thread pic>>716656
Thanks, so much went down last thread I kept thinking I missed some of her freakout in the recap>>716665>who needs facts
clearly not any of you dumbass taylor stans
Jen “has her back” aka enables her - never forget 30 day soup. Meth and alcohol don’t count guys - it wasn’t like she was shooting up herion come onnnnn..
And as JC recent tweet says - where are all the charges? She’s just making threats, very typical for narcs to involve the cops.
She is the equivalent of the chads in khakis polo shorts and boat shoes sayin they are calling their lawyer
So, let’s say the police were called. Destry was in school while this was happening, after spending the night in the hospital. They come in, and question her about some screenshots? Some fucking screenshots? Are you kidding me?
If this was the case, tell me why half of the world isn’t in trouble for maybe spreading around some misinformation?
Taylor herself knew most of that was true, and there’s a handful of other people obviously involved in this. It’s not just Destry. There’s a few other rats in this, and they’re playing both sides.
Even if they did come in, unless Taylor was pushing for something to happen legally, then there was nothing. Just a minor slap on the wrist, or asked to stop.
Taylor didn’t file a restraining order on Jonny, and she surely didn’t do anything with Destry either.
You guys are operating entirely off of someone who has already given you false information.
Mama Dean didn’t do shit either. She can’t handle twitter confrontation, and sat back while her daughter shot up day & night.
I hate Taylor, but this is just retarded.
She called and harassed her multiple times. She threaten lawsuits multiple times, and got her mom to call as well. Ofc Destry is scared, a heroin addict is harassing her.
Seems unlikely that Destry is lying imo.
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Notice Chelsea liked this. I think she indeed was silenced.
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for those anons who aren't bothering to read the linked information in the body of the OP which was helpfully provided above, here you go again.
please read before you baitpost. it's greatly appreciated.
TND admits to harassing a teen after said teen blocked her >>716166
Jen threatens Destry privately >>716034
Taylor is a member of at least two groups with teen fans, who knows what they talk about >>716074 >>716076
Celia has been on more than one round of antibiotics >>715959
Jen and Taylor engage in obvious lameass gay ops >>715952
Jen threatens Destry publically >>715903
now please fuck off with this bullshit. taylor and her mother threatened a teenaged girl and sent her army of idiot stans after her so that she would stop talking. they insinuated all kinds of shit in the most blatant and obvious way. they are both grotesque.
You have absolutely no idea what Taylor did or didn't do, stop acting like you know what they'd do because you read a gossip board. She's a fucking heroin addict, she's unstable as hell.
These posts are slippery and stanny
Her source was also in taylors weird cult groupchat. The odds of taykor figuring out who it was and scaring them as well are pretty up there, moreso if they're young like destry is. Destry is acting like a scared child trying to say what ever she can to make this go away. Because thats most likely whats happening.
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Not really new milk but Bree is roasting TND on twitter, which I always appreciate. Taylor must be so mad she wasn't able to shut her up lol
I do think Destry had her own motives for exposing Taylor, she randomly sends info weeks after it happened. Very odd.
Maybe she had a change of heart? Money? Revenge? Attention?
I don't know if the DM's are fake.
Alot of the information corroborates what alot of us suspect. Why would someone manufacture fake info anyway? There's obviously dirt (like driving high) out there in her private convos. Is it THAT far-fetched that someone is trying to bring her down from the inside?
You forget that they're teenagers with a platform to get their idol's attention. Teens also have the peer acceptance mindset and if you add a platform that they can hide behind a screen, They'll do anything to be known so they'll turn on anyone to get ahead of someone else; the whole "I wanna be the popular one." Taylor is forever stuck in this phase and is basically the mean girl that all the other stans wanna be. Wasn't surprised that this girl is suddenly back in Taylor's arms. Taylor could've just said , "you won't be in our cool group anymore and can't hang out with us so you're a fucking loser! no one likes you" and she would suddenly kiss her ass again.
only time Taylor will ever change is when teenagers doesn't give a shit about her anymore when she's 10 years older than them with a face of a 40 year old junkie. They'll move on to another idiot 21 year old pettuber
Go Breeee! Taylor will probably try to bribe you as well soon so I hope you are prepared to stand against her manipulation technique. But somehow I think Bree is a tree that will not fall easy.
Also I wonder if Tofu died when Taylor punctured his lung on heroin, and she got a new one just like him, and that's why he doesn't seem to be growing?
hey Op just a tip, enlarge a picture first then and save/reupload the larger version. the pic in the Op is thumbnail-sized ie. for ants.
Anyway I think the real nugget to come out of this Destry mess, beyond Taylor's sperging, bullying and manipulation (which, well, we been knew) is there is now proof she mistreated a sick animal (Tofu) while high on drugs, something she has adamantly denied till now. Additionally that she drove on drugs, but I think her finally admitting to fucking around with her animals is the big news.
This story sounds way to similar to the grey kitten one.
The cat getting unresponsive, Taylor miraculous saving it with CPR
Taylor can clean her room for her life, less how to learn CPR on different kinds of animals.
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I don’t know if anyone caught this, but she said she was going to take a big break?
"and how people still blindly defend that blows my mind."
I agree. What bothers me most are the pet accounts (that has a youtube channel / insta with a decent following and all follow one another) that STILL follow TND. One even tweeted saying, "just because I liked a tweet that defend said person (tnd) does not mean I support animal abuse." along those lines. She said that she follows for the photos, and for the fun part of the pet community - but if you love animals so much, wouldnt you be disgusted that this big pettuber is doing this with her animals? add on top of that how she treats others just to save her own ass? boggles my mind.
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Found this going through her Instagram. The mark on Tofu stood out to me.
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Is this the same mark? Her timeline with them shooting up on thanksgiving is fishy if it’s the same and it comes from her injecting tofu.
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If that mark was from injecting Tofu that would mean she pierced the needle all the way through him, as you give injections on the dorsal (top) side.
Which is extra horrifying to think about
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if taylor really pierced through that snake that's fucking horrible
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For that price. Tofu is highly replaceable
the thing is that taylor is kinda hard to call out because she wiggles her way out of things so much.
there’s literal years worth of screenshots of lies, contradictions, inflations etc on her behalf but the sheer amount of them means someone would have to dedicate hella time and effort into compiling the most relevant ones, and by that time a lot of passerby will have lost interest.
exposing her to her fans seems to work somewhat
but only if those fans are level headed and old enough to truly tell when they’ve been lied to.
it would be good to see someone about her size follower-wise or even bigger just make a simple callout tweet that links to a google document containing an updated death chart and some choice screenshots side-by-side to prove she’s lied, or something of that nature. just lay it all out bare, without petty piss takes, there is concrete evidence of several of her wrongdoings and she’d be hard pressed to deny it all. i think these would be more well known if lolcow wasn’t so hard to delve into for n00bs due to the sheer amount of posts we have on her.
Anon according to her and her brain dead stans, we’re RIDICULOUS for even thinking her animals received subpar care while she was doped up 24/7. She’s a fucking loser that is in denial. I’ve seen first and secondhand that heroin addicts like her do not give a flying fuck about anything but their next fix. Oh yeah and add shitty dope head Jonny into the equation. But yes, keep telling us how ALL of your animals are in “PERFECT HEALTH.”
I’m also fucking sick of hearing her holier than thou bs. Like yeah, we’re all so jealous of you living with your mommy and daddy, being an addict, being an animal hoarder/abuser, being a depressed psycho maniac, having hep c, grooming/manipulating teenage fans, being a pathological liar, having no fashion sense, getting junkie tattoos, having poor hygiene, and living your entire narc life based off the amount of asspats you get from the internet. Yes we’re all so jealous of Taylor Nicole Dean because she’s going places. We all need to take note. She needs to realize that anyone can get clean, it’s a matter of actually staying sober from all substances and getting to the root cause of your substance abuse.
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I wonder if she's still injecting her subs like Jake accused her of. (Which i honestly believe at this point)
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it's 4pm her local time and taylor is finally up and sperging about destry again
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she's now claiming the tofu situation was misinterpreted too.
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now claiming that she wasn't high while treating tofu and that it is completely normal to puncture snake's lungs anyway
Hold up, so she literally said in the chat "I pierced his lung" and "I had to give him CPR WHILE I was high WHILE I drove" and "he turned blue and solid"….
But now it sounds like she's playing the whole thing down like he didn't literally die from a punctured lung, "the vet did it too!! It's not just me!! I'm amazing, just like the world renowned vet I go to!!!! Even tho vets always make mistakes with my animals (not me obv I'm perfect!) but that's because for no reason at all I go to a different vet and they always fuck up and then I have to go back to my regular vet who's amazing!! Just like me!!", he turned blue and solid but was literally fine, right Taylor?
And also now she wasn't high?? (absolute bullshit, why would you even think you might have been high if this happened before you even got high, also when did she prove she later said she wasn't high in the conversation?)
Urgh I literally cannot stand her, the way her parents see all the lies she spouts online and viciously defend her makes me sick.
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>>716965> i was not high
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she never said she was so high she could barely drive, guys
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her response to everyone calling her bs
She only logged in to let us know that the drama is over and we should all stop talking about it already.
Now she will again have a heroin dreams, become depressed, log out, and be late with this weeks heroin diaries. Then get scolded by mom for not contributing to the household, make another video just because she has to, all dressed in camgirl clothes as a revenge on her mom. Aaa I know the script just all too well already.
IDK, hitting rock bottom via OD is one of the few things that makes delusional addicts stop and maybe reevaluate their lives.
Friendly reminder that Taylor Nicole Dean regularly drives while under the influence, with no licence, and puts everyone else on the road at risk. Car accidents caused by junkies lead to death and serious injury.
I'm not even saying people shouldn't feel that way or should feel bad (I despise her) I was just saying how I felt. If people feel that way I can understand 100% why.
I know that Taylor cares a lot about how people feel and I feel like if someone as big as her or bigger were to call her ass out the next scandal, she would'nt be able to use her fame to bury them or scare them off.
But as someone told me early, they don't feel it's the case.
To me Taylor's only as strong as her stans, without them she's fucking weak.
I was about to mentally strangle her when I read her "defence" just now but I agree that wishing overdose on someone is harsh.
I just wish for A L L of her animals to be rehomed. Every single poor innocent soul that didn't want any of this.
And HOW can she say it's alright for her family to take care of the animals? when they have literally NO knowledge about them? I don't think Mama Dean has the interest and knowledge it takes to take care of a sick and dying zoo. Mama D just wants them rehomed too ffs!>>717009
Also it's interesting how Destry hasn't deleted her tweets yet. Tinfoil but I think she is still one of us. Hope Tay is too busy reading tweets instead of this. Destry if you are here, I still believe in you.
It's also classic shitbag behavior. Taylor can't hack it with anyone her own age she doesn't have leverage over so she surrounds herself with kids and uses the emotionally abusive
, manipulative route of "omg I feel so speshul, my idol is talking to me and taking me into her circle!" to ensure their compliance.
Bet she tells them they're "not like other kids their age" and "so mature for your age!!!"
agreed, she's a huge piece of shit regardless if the screencaps were real or not. and I believe they're real. she always has and always will claim any discriminating screencap is fake.
I hope she loses her remaining looks, all her animals and becomes homeless.
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It's so good to see more & more people catching her bullshit & throwing it right back in her face
It seems like there’s about 3 snakes within the chat (if not more) that were either involved directly or indirectly with Destry (giving her information after she was out of the gc) and it does seem like her plotting it went on for a while seeing as her alternative account had tweets on it dating back to 2018.
I am not confident in Destry’s honesty, and motives, but I am hopeful there will be more that finally pull away / give out more info.
|>they were made after taylor’s tweets using her tweets as fodder.
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this kind of warning is given on most medications?? what the fuck is she on
if it didnt have any warning she'd complain anyway. this is just a lowkey reminder that she's an addict y'all!!!
It's short and sweet so that people can fucking see what it is and get it, what the fuck does Taylor want it to say?
If it was a brick of text Taylor would say it's too complicated for addict brains, I'm literally not getting what she's complaining about.
If she has a better option for people to get off drugs, then she should share it, she's not a fucking doctor.
My god I thought she was stupid but not this fucking stupid.
Taylor, they have to put those warnings on those meds, just like they do with psychotropics. Even Advil has warnings about possible side effects and risks.
How exactly do you expect them to prescribe them? Since you've been to WoRlD rEnOwNeD facilities and seem to be the embodiment of WikiDrugs. AFAIK in America they prescribe the exact dosis you need in a bottle, what else can be done?
And it isn't like the doctor didn't tell you what Suboxone was for before they prescribed it to you. And also, those labels are not only directed at the people who are taking the medication, but for example, caretakers.
It's really pathetic how you try to be and look oppressed by the healthcare system when you're actually in a position of privilege.
You're not being groundbreaking with these things, you just look mad stupid.
Fuck me, the snake died, didn't it?
There was a time Taylor was posting Tofu non-stop, then suddenly, nothing, then by the summer time, she started posting him again…
Except the opioid epidemic is actually being cracked down on in the medical field more than any other area? Pain killers arent prescribed willy nilly (at least in my state) anymore and clinicians will lose their license for doing so.
She literally just cannot talk about anything other than addiction its. Something else man.
She literally cannot understand that if someone decides to not follow the warning it's their responsibility and that it's there for a reason. Because to her addicts should not be held accountable for their addiction lmfao
This bitch I swear.
anon. this has been discussed like ten times. it’s really fucking simple, please try to wrap your head around the following basic concepts:>old twitter messages show a full date (1/1/2001)>new twitter messages just show a time of day (22:15)>if these were “old” screenshots they’d have her old icon, not her new one>if they were “scrolled back” recent screenshots they’d have datestamps instead of timestamps>that means the screenshots are fake because none of this shit adds up
do you understand now or do you need this explained to you even further?
Like to see her flat out say, "yeah the shit with the snake happens, but doesn't matter because-" is some shit that I'd expect a fucking 12 year old to say.
This girl seriously needs to figure her life out.
She's depressed, she's toxic
and addicted to being a victim
. It's fucking disgusting at this point.
Seriously Taylor, take some time an figure out why you can never be wrong, why everyone is out to get you, maybe it's fucking you.
if they were recent screenshots they would have a fucking date stamp.
why is this so hard to understand???
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Don’t know if anyone caught this, but look at the time. Was this just one big “conversation” in one day? She just exposed herself with all of this information? And the person she was talking with just didn’t respond? Check the timestamps. Between that, and the wonky text these are 100% botched
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if the dm’s were real, they could’ve easily been proven by taking a screen recording and scrolling thru the convo and then clicking through to taylor’s profile. the fact that that was never done is even more proof this shit is about as real as taylor’s lips.
she likes to go on long rants all the time. this sounds exactly like one of her twitter spergs.
do you seriously believe her kid stans pulled this elaborate scheme? bc it sounds insane
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Stop being fucking retarded anon. Stop. Look at the fucking weird text, look at the context, look at the time. These aren’t real. I know you’re desperate for Taylor milk, but let’s attack her with real stuff. Not fake shit
You are cherry picking. Even if it were from some rendering, that still ignores everything else. INCLUDING TIMESTAMPS. Not all of them have it, but they’re all within the same few minutes.
Go to kiwifarms if you want to be this braindead
this was discussed in the last thread. this is almost certainly an editing app artifact. i know my way around photoshop and i can't figure out why this would prove the screencap is fake. you'd have to be retarded to randomly shift the text like that.
i honestly don't give a shit if the caps are fake tbh. the real milk was how taylor reacted to them.
Anons are glazing over the fact that she somehow magically predicted this is what was going to come out before it was even posted? Tell me fucking how? She's even playing lolcow like a fiddle. Come on.
Nothing is too far fetched for her. I remember when the speculation about her being on heroin even seemed far fetched. Then it turned out even worse than we even speculated. She's a fucking mess of a person. With Bree also backing those up and them lining up with her story as well, and with the confirmed real Tofu conversation along side of it, I'm going to believe this shit.
I think Destry (or maybe the person who gave destry the doctored caps) warned TND beforehand. Either by saying something along the lindes of "you are going to be exposed.everyone will know about the maggots" or "my kween someone told some other people and they told me that there is a chick who is gonna say your frog was eAtEn ALivE my maggots. Watch out for that"
maggots just as an example because Taylor seems to love that acusation
lol it was tinfoiled yesterday that she would say that exact thing was how we would know they're fake. Good to see the cow herself or her stans are clueless enough to try that bs excuse. Again a barrage of people refuting the claims made that we admitted weren't solid. lbr if they were taylors screenshots that had a 1-2 pixel wide discrepancy no one would notice.
Biggest of all yesterday she said the tofu thing was true and she has since backpedaled…something we have solid proof of!
also, how has nobody noticed that the typing style isn’t the same as taylor’s at all? her phone always autocorrects lowercase i to uppercase in the non-shopped screenshot, in her tweets over the last few months, in proven legitimate messages from elsewhere etc. also noticed that “lmao” is almost never with a capital L in her tweets or genuine DMs, but in the fake one it was.
Who cares if some anons think they are real? Anons don’t have to think the same thing as a collective. That’s also why I don’t get you keep saying she fooled lolcow like we somehow agreed as a consensus they were real. Some think they were real, some fake. Don’t know why you are so dead set on forcing them to think the same as you.
What is real and irrefutable is TND’s actions before, during and after the whole debacle. Her actions stood out far above anything alleged in the messages anyways. Them being fake doesn’t justify her actions or make her look any better. It really doesn’t even matter at this point if they are real or not.
good point. first decent proof that they might not be real tbh.
so what is your analysis on the texts about adopting the blood puthon? bc taylor is now claiming these are fake too
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Went digging for this after she posted that stupid rant yesterday about a teenager >>716177
"calling people retards and faggots" when she had no issue dropping nigga around on her facebook as a teen.
>>719895 if anyone wants a refresher
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The fake-milk texts posted by Taylor are eerily similar in both topic and phrasing to those leaked by Destry.>>717209
Taylor refers to Twisty as both male (his, him) and female (she) in the set of texts from Destry.
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The editing around her stomach gave me a good laugh
No I completely get that, I’m just saying that if she wants to go with this “I couldn’t be driving high bc it was the day before I shot up for the first time” reasoning, it’s not a very good one bc she very well could have been high on multiple other drugs (or just have been smoking heroin) by her own admission.
Just bc she’s admitted to driving on H doesn’t mean she hasn’t done the same with other things lol
It's also HILARIOUS she conveniently has junkie amnesia all "oh uwu it's all a blur hehehe I don't remember uwu!"
Junkies lie all the time, and Taylor can't keep her own bullshit story straight even through the same sperging session.
She can't even keep the stories straight in the same tweet.
First Tofu was in such amazing condition with a punctured lung that the he didn't even "need any meds or anything".
And then the vet also pokes his lung with a needle? Why the fuck would they do that if there was no need for meds? Sorry can't screenshot gonna copy paste.
I was not high (the dates don’t line up, and i confirmed that later in the chat) and it was a tiny snake that the vet confirmed anyone could do it with when told to medicate in the upper 1/3 of the body. when I took him back to the vet it happened there, too.
He was fine and-
taylor nicole dean
-didn’t even need meds or anything to fix because it wasn’t as bad as I thought, sharing a story in pieces with friends where I don’t worry about being 100% flawlessly correct is different than sharing it online. I thought back on the date-
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$3000 for this is just a rip off lmao.
I'm also seeing the artist covered one of the potato hands with the hair.
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So, unless I'm mistaken, Taylor said this happened the day before she got high for the first time, which she also said was Thanksgiving, right?
This would make the Tofu situation November 21st or around there, definitely before November 22nd if this happened when she was apparently sober (not that I believe Thanksgiving was the first time she got high, but anyway).
I went back on her Instagram and found this post from November 30th… "he's been flawless".
Dunno about you Taylor but I'd class that as lying.
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I’ve upped it to age 25 aka I won’t take myself seriously til I’m borderline about to turn that age.
If she doesn’t OD before then tho.
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wow the artist tried to cover the shoddy work by shading it to shit, but now it just looks like a bad tattoo underneath dirty skin. Especially the hand. And it looks like the crown of her head + the snake up there aren't even finished, why isn't her hair filled in at all up top if the rest of her hair is dark?
I'm not sure what editing you're seeing, all I see is distortion from the bottom edge of the mirror
The composition of it is just god awful. There are so many snakes they just get lost in the tattoo. There could have been one large one intertwined throughout the whole thing, which would translate better. “Medusa” should be bigger, have fuller hair, and the artist should have just done a bust and omitted adding limbs altogether. The shading looks so fucking muddy and sad, and there’s too much fine lining with not enough definition. Oof
. Aside from the shoddy composition and shaking lines, this is going to be such a blown out disaster in a couple years. I’d opt for a full blackwork sleeve after this nightmare ages a little.
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JC still hasn’t gotten his stuff.
…did the artist just not finish? Or is that how it's supposed to be?
Also that girl looks super fat/round under those snakes without body curves & shading.
speaking of money, did taylor pay back those people from the Paypal? Or not. She never mentioned it again.
(as far as I saw)
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the snakes/flowers look half decent from afar but the face is god awful and the shading made it even worse. I'd be ashamed to have this on hung on my wall. >>717379
the girl looks fat as fuck, especially with the short noodle arms. it's taylor to a t lol - huge head, thinning hair, botched makeup, square body.
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Back to regularly scheduled preaching about her master's degree in addiction
How much you wanna bet that Taylor tries to meet up with him?
Come on Taylor, I wanna see a "oops I'm so quirky and drove (without a license) to my old house by mistake… Jonny was there, we made up and I'm soo happy. But don't worry I'll stay clean and Jonny said he'll stop too!" Tweet.
There's no illness that makes you stick a needle in your arm, you make a choice.
And for the record, drugs ARE bad dumbass, they're tied to human trafficking, murder, corruption, extortion and general human misery.
Zero sympathy for this bitch, she did it for "the experience".
The style just doesn't work, It's half photo realism, half neo-traditional.
The shading just makes it look dirty, there's too much going on, and tons of space between the tattoos.
Just a poorly designed tattoo period.
You think she realizes she could go to prison? Please, Taylor doesn't understand that drug = bad and DUI = incredibly shitty, to mention a few grace notes kek
She's an upper middle class white girl, she knows she'd get some slap on the wrist fine at most. Unless… hey, Taylor, you want the Real Junkie Experience? The One For Real Addicts?
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She really knows how to be disliked
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really hilarious joke, taylor. hahahaha
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noticed that too. lol. >>717463
and isnt today world mental health day? the irony of this wannabe advocate lol
"Feel bad for me and my mental illness!!"
but also, let me make fun of low-hanging fruit for her obvious mental illness.
Fuck Trisha don't get me wrong, but maybe instead of making fun of the bitch Taylor could be fucking sympathetic, or I don't know? Just shut the fuck up.
She doesn't want people to pick at her but she picks at others?
I don't care if people talk about Trisha, but fucked up miss Mental Illness Taylor is taking time to down someone, when she doesn't like when people shit talk her ass.
Treat people how you want to be treated, people can't make fun of your tattoos, but you can pick at other people.
Also, i thought she hated cancel culture??
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> “This allows us to raise awareness to the importance of addressing the impact on a child, and not just the adult who is struggling with addiction,”
So it's basically teaching kids how ones addiction affects their loved ones.
Something that needs to be pointed out is that schools do bring in former addicts to discuss drugs and the reality of the dangers. Taylor, being the idiot she is, probably didn't listen at all (honestly, she probably wasn't even in school enough to experience DARE)
Basically, Taylor probably didn't even listen and only got, "lol drugs are bad don't do them."
Just because you didn't actually listen to your school's drug awareness doesn't mean they weren't quality, Taylor. You're just an air-head who didn't care because you're a spoiled asshole.
You can lead a cow to water, but you can't make it drink. That's the entire reality of who Taylor is. No matter how much knowledge of something dangerous is presented to her, she won't listen.
Taylor only cares to listen when it's her story.
Pretty sure you don't need a drug program to know that heroin is bad.
It's fucking heroin people. Don't do it, look at the death lists and how hear how it ruined peoples lives. FFS Taylor acting like she had it sooo bad. Red flags were sticking out of jonny's ass, and she chose to ignore it cause she thought she "knew better".
Well bitch you didn't, you got fucked and he sucked thousands of dollars from you. At least show some maturity and take responsibility for you actions.
She's just shit talking school programs to make herself look, "real and raw" for YT views despite the fact school's DO bring in real addicts.
Taylor is just chronically boring and clings to what struggles she did experience to feel complex. She turned to drugs because she needed to numb the reality of being so boring with nothing to do. Drugs make you okay with being bored/depressed.
No amount of good drug education can prevent drug use for people like Taylor, so she needs to shut the fuck up about bashing them.
" needs to go on her Twitter profile, lol. Love it.
To be fair there is validity to the fact that education on drugs in school is not good enough. Humans will do drugs no matter what so there needs to be some more education in harm-reduction considering people do end up doing them.
The problem is that Taylor clearly has no way how to critically consider how she words herself on the topic, what she should NOT talk about and she chats on and on about it constantly. This is clearly showing she is not far enough in recovery or even educated enough to be a voice anyone should listen to at all. This is only her screaming past the big black void in her heart knowing deep down she was forced into rehab and now has all eyes on her as added pressure. Her chances of relapse are astronomical and she knows it'll be a shitstorm for her.
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Flashback to this gem…lol at how addiction is the only personality trait she spergs about daily, besides the occasional bullying of 16 year olds kek
in a way, I miss when she was high.
Though I know those animals undoubtedly suffered at the hands of her being high (so let’s exclude that part) but it was nice to not hear about how high and mighty she was in regards to drugs lol
this needs to be sent to her whenever she goes on about how it’s not her job to be careful of what she says to her child audience.
more and more she’s showing that she’s so much like onision (just without the fucking teens obviously.)
Professional contradiction victim
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Daaaaaaaamn, fuck yeah! Wonder which shop this was?>>717903
I dream of one day people having solid evidence
of so much she has done because of how much her and her mother lie their way out of shit. It's too bad Destry's literal video of scrolling through her conversation wasn't enough. Her lying plus the sperging and endless tweets about it are enough to make people forget everything because it is impossible to keep track of everything she has said and it all gets swept under the rug. It even happens here, she spews so much shit that we lose track of what has been proven, what hasn't, and everything in between. She is such an expert manipulator. If something comes out about her, then she'll attack them right back with something that doesn't even have to be completely true.
She loves talking about how creepy Onion is yet has a group chat of teenagers. Who does that?? So fucking weird she has no friends of her own age. It's creepy when a man does it, why not an already manipulative woman who claims to be bisexual, huh huh?
Don't dish it if you can't take it.
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I don’t think this was posted. Right around the time Taylor and Chelsea talked?
that constant sperging is very like onision, too. the whole thing where you spew so much fucking nonsense that no one can keep track of your bullshit, they both do it and i think for the same reason. it's funny that she went off on him because she's more similar to him than not.
unhealthy reliance on fillers
I mean honestly every time someone like this pops up they always half-ass it and that's why she gets away with it every single time.
Unless they have all the (irrefutable) proof on their hands and drop it all, I will take this shit with a grain of salt.
Why withhold this information though Turtlemom!? Is keeping the interest, and attention via twitter more important than protecting a young gal that was dragged?
Don’t even give this clown attention until she wants to deliver even half of the things she’s said she would post/show
He really took a note out of Onisions book, huh? Dumb pile of shit. >>718011
Get real. There’s no lawyer on this.
try telling that to taylor. she can't stop sperging for a 24 hour period, let alone fathom that someone out there might be smarter or more capable than she is.
the enforced vacation from all of her social media was more painful for this fathead than the actual heroin withdrawal.
wtf give people some time will you?
remember one year ago. when we were all frustrated with no proof of taytay being anything else but the sober happy saint she claimed to be. And then shit came falling down. And here we are today, making her actually shut the fuck up for once because everyone on twitter is asking wayy to many uncomfortable questions.
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Old milk but after last week’s (or was it this week) sperging about how “terrible it is for influencers to, like, promote weed to kids” I find it funny that she’s got this outfit in her insta story about the outfits she likes…..
but no, u right, these terrible influencers promoting pot like, they’re so wrong, huh tay?(autistic nitpick)
Yep. Anyone who thinks the police actually showed up to shut Destry up has watched way too many crime shows. >>718060
Agreed. She's an obsessed stan basically, she was outed a few threads ago. She has to insert herself into any drama surrounding JC's exes. I wouldn't trust her considering she always does this. She just wants us to think she's apart of Taylor's life so she dangles information infront of us.
it also doesn’t take more than 2 braincells to understand there’s no lawyer.
This would be a decent point in the event turtlemom hadn’t been an attention whore through this whole thing.
Besides that, teasing shit for likes on twitter still holds the same as speaking on something. But I won’t entertain that, because there’s no police work here and you’re really doing none of us justice by believing the conspiracy theories.
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Still nothing from her in over 2 days. Who wants to place bets on muh relapse bucuz the haterz, muh mental health bucuz the haterz, or hospitalization bc the haterz?
Also everyone is now memeing on her. It's great
I think they are wise enough to advice their daughter that twitter drama with someone like Taylor is waste of time.
Of course I want to Taylor get exposed but I wouldn’t want to my kid to waste energy to messy
I’m not familiar with US school system but in my country it’s very important to get good grades at that age to go good schools later.
Relapse seems likely. Taylor enjoys her daily sperging.
She also likes to run and hide from her problems when things come up. Could also be family drama. Mama dean might've told her to quit acting like a dipshit and took her phone away.
Taylor's been doing dumb idiotic shit she shouldn't be doing since she was a young teen and she's admitted that herself, which means Mama dean hasn't kept track of what her daughter's been up to for the last 10 years probably.
She can't even make her clean her room or look after her animals so I doubt she's made taylor hand over or do anything, especially since Jen is twice as crazy and idiotic publicly as Taylor is herself.
Jen might get the basics done for Tanner and keep up appearances around the house but she's a shit mother overall, dumb narcs like her shouldn't breed.
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inb4 he goes to prison with those and has to explain to big bubba he just thought they were neat.
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Was waiting for the excuse for no video again tomorrow
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What a blessing she is with her dangerous misinformation about her 15% bullcrap.
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And every time people do the whole, "i feel bad for Jonny" in any context, I always call that shit out.
he's a fucked-up piece of dirt.
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But doesn’t that go against what her own literal mother said? Taylor wanted to live the rockstar life. And even if she didn’t, she was warned about Jonny’s antics. She knew damn well what was going on, and what would happen. She was going to sink or swim with him. And guess what? She sunk.
There’s nothing in your brain that forces you to shove a needle into your arm.
Is there a desire? Arguably so.
But that doesn’t mean shit.
There’s a lot of desired humans experience on a day to day basis. We cannot always fulfill them. Desires are not necessities.
she seems to forget that you have to CHOOSE to shove coke up your nose. Yeah a lot of people do it but not everybody does. You may not think it will lead to anything but there is always a chance that is why dare programs teach to stay away. Because you don't know until it's too late if you'll become an addict. It's like choosing to have sex and then acting shocked that you may have gotten pregnant or an std. It's part of the potential consequences and she is fortunate enough to have been raised somewhere where there is at least some education on the subject. She always avoid the initial choice part. Even if you do h and don't shoot it you have to choose to snort something or take a pill (this doesn't include people who take opiates for medical purposes as that is a whole other path to addiction and I'm talking about those who clearly made a choice to do a drug).
Also lmao yes mouthwash is getting all the kids to turn into junkies. Please Taylor, tell me more!
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Ok let's entertain her for a bit. Her argument is that she was born with predisposition to become addicted, which yes, it can happen if there's family history related to addiction. But even if she was born with said predisposition, there has to be self-accountability for the choices you make, even if you're mentally ill.
It's kinda like when people try to get away with being assholes because they're depressed, like no. You can say you were born with it all you want, but you still made a choice that impacted not only you but those around you, and you have to take accountability for that. Even with your infamous "15% of people get addicted the rest are fine" theory, you still have to have self-accountability.
You're yet to apologize to your fans for lying about being sober when you weren't. You're yet to apologize to JC's exes for invalidating them.
You're yet to own up to the shit that happened with Bree and admit you were the one who brought the drugs. You're yet to admit you weren't and aren't still fit to take care of the amount of animals you have because you're not sober. You being on subs doesn't count as being sober, you even "planned" relapses.
And as much predisposition you have, you still can deny drugs. Even if there's lack of awareness about addiction, on the most basic level you know drugs are bad, period.
She's still stealing Liz's story to make herself seem like she was forced to get high. She doesn't really care about awareness; she just doesn't wanna look bad in front of her stans.
why won't she spill on who these addicts in her bloodline are that ~doomed~ her to be a good for nothing drug-user and lazy animal hoarder? her parents aren't former drug addicts. is it supposedly her grandparents? are we supposed to believe grandma and grandpa on either (or both!) sides were out on the streets in the 1960s selling their bodies for their next fix of H or whatever their drug of choice was?
so either taylor's mom or dad have to be "carriers" of the "addict gene" (lolol) and then there would only be a 50 percent change that taylor would even inherit this said gene (pretending this is a real mutation that is proven in fact to exist)
so taylor really is SPECIAL!!!! neither of her parents are drug addicts, and i doubt either set of grandparents are drug addicts, and the chance of passing down a mutant gene like this (again, assuming this is a real live mutation that can be traced, isolated, proven in the code) through 2 generations of unaffected people into a third generation (taylor) is laughable
From what I’ve read in multiple different sources (sorry I’m not able to link rn), genetics have been found to play up to ~60% of fault for addiction. And there is no singular gene/s that has been identified that is responsible as of yet. The other 40% or so is due to environmental, social, emotional, mental, etc. factors, so pretty much anything else in the world.
Hope that kind of helps lol(advanced autism)
Is she seriously saying that "you're not born as an addict" is spreading dangerous
Stfu Taylor, you're
spreading dangerous misinformation by telling your underage audience that only 15% of all people get addicted and everyone else can shoot heroin without getting addicted.
Is she really that brainwashed or just straight up dumb and ignorant?
you're talking out of your ass. there's no GENE MUTATION that has been isolated, identified, and determined to be an "addict gene". there are neuro pathways that lend certain people to be impulsive or more prone to risk-taking behaviours, and alterations in reward responses–NONE OF THAT SPELLS "if u take a sip of vodka ur an addict!!!" YOU'RE STILL AUTONOMOUS YOU DUMMY, there's no fucking mutation in your genetic coding dictating your actions when it comes to drugs or alcohol. and cognitive process are not so linear that even if you were, for instance, prone to being a dumbass thrill-seeker to get off, it doesn't mean you can't be programed and disciplined enough to understand the consequences, understand your own wiring, and thus make more conscious and healthy choices of how to appease your thrill-seeking neural structures for rewards/desires. for instance, you may do something impulsive and insane once or twice and learn you REALLY enjoyed it, understand your reward conditioning, and then choose to structure it by taking up martial arts, mountain climbing, race car driving, surfing, deep-sea diving, or skydiving or the like. doesn't mean every thrill-seeker is doomed to end up a demented sex or drug-chasing zombie, or pulling illegal or dangerous stunts bc ~their wiring lead them there~
no, just no(advanced autism)
Lol how convenient poster >>718350
could not link at that moment. sus
She said she willingly tried weaker drugs like like diladud to work her way up to Heroin.
That right there is fucked in the head. I agree that most of it is self inflicted, she wasn't born with these behaviors.
Must be snowblind
She's sperging on like she's high.
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So much for a new video. But really what's new?!
It's so pathetic that she acts like she can't be blamed for shooting up because she ~had no choice~~
Girl never takes the blame for anything. She never admits she's at fault for something and she never ever apologizes for something she did, unless it befits her. >>718469>I'vE bEeN hAvInG a RoUgH wEeK eMoTiOnAlLy aNd JuSt nEeDeD tO fOcUs On ReStInG
Lmao from what? Doing nothing but sperging at/threatening minors?
Every week is a rough week emotionally when you don't have to pay any bills or lift a finger to take care of your pets or clean your room.
Just rehome all her animals and kick her out. Ffs Jen
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Looks like Repzion won't be releasing his video on Taylor like he promised a couple months ago…
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she said she'll upload a video tomorrow.
She has gone from 1 sip, to a few sips, and now it's "average amount"
In her heroin story video didn't she claim that after the few sips she then the day or week after drank stupid amounts of alcohol and "wanted to kill herself"?
She always has to add something very dramatic to her stories like vomiting or killing herself, and adding the hyperboles. She's so inconsistent.
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Throwback to >>709092
(saged no new milk)
There's a big difference between a few days and a few months, Tay. Leaving a big wide open alibi for yourself, Tay.
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Another throwback to a few days ago regarding this same upload she's been promising for sometime now.
iirc (I feel like at this point I'm being gaslighted because she keeps spinning the narrative so much I'm not even sure what's what), she said she took 3 sips of vodka
and then the next day she was in full addict mode, with cravings and being suicidal.
But she's so stupid she doesn't realize she contradicts herself. She took 3 sips
of vodka and that was enough to get her Addicted (tm), but she had to "build her way up" to h to show how she's the junkiest junkie of them all.
And if I remember correctly, it was mentioned in past threads that she had tried drugs before Jonny, like coke, which she made fun of Bree for not knowing how to snort it or whatever.
Is there some truth to the sips of vodka saga? Probably, but it most likely started off with her having a few drinks and then escalating to shit like weed, then coke, then dialuid, then h, like addiction usually develops, but because it's taylor, obviously it has to be embellished so she looks like she's always the exception to every rule.
I'm glad someone fucking explained this. I've been too frustrated about her idiotic ramblings to be able to word it properly.
She's painting such a dangerous narrative for people; they'll think they can risk taking highly physically addictive drugs because "lol I can drink alcohol fine, so that means I can do meth."
I also think she’s high and trying to get videos out so it’s not obvious, but this whole postponing shit looks awfully familiar… >>718512
Lol coming from the social media addict herself. How much u wanna bet she was still online but on her alt accounts still reading shit and commenting but as someone else. She can’t stay off the internet unless she was made to do so (like when she was made to go to rehab)
She probably sleeps with her phone in her hand too lol
“And hurts me to think” that he’s continuing to do so to other girls?
Really Taylor? I cannot take her seriously regarding this because she knew what she got herself into. Fuck off with this.
Ps: you are the girl version of this onision guy
She's also downplaying other addictions which you'd think a self-proclaimed recovery warrior like her wouldn't do. Just because the addiction is solely psychological doesn't mean it will necessarily be easier to break it - often not. It just means you risk less physical symptoms or potential death due to dependency. Oh wait, essentially all addictions often cause or worsen mental health issues. Which can result in something like suicide or other severe life-damaging behaviour. Yikes, Taylor. You're not more of an addict than anyone else.
Why so many people are able to be casual drug-users and many others end up as full-blown addicts is way more complex than she is seemingly able to portray over her goddamn twitter account. She needs to stop.
If she wasn't so early in recovery it would probably open her eyes to work for a non-profit organization that provide food and clothing to addicts. Actually talk to some of the people who got their lives ruined due to addiction. Maybe it would humble her a bit. Even mentioning this to her followers could incite people to donate or get involved in their local communities. Anyway, it'll be interesting to see this next video on addiction. I doubt it'll be very good.
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Sage for old milk, but an important throwback. Oh how her story has changed. This is currently making a round on Twitter along with some texts from Jonny trying to get heroin for Taylor and himself.
Lmao Taylor you dumb bitch.
This turns into the story how Taylor ruined Jonnys life and not vice versa
Agree with your tinfoil. If my 16 yr old daughter (with a gfm for a stray cat with a bad eye and took in a misbehaving snake for this snake), is being harassed by 2 adults, one which is a recently sober H addict. I'd screencap and get someone involved.
TND admits to being an addict, driving high, etc publicly. Those caps plus the threats could look pretty serious to bored suburban law enforcement.
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Something is definutely going on but I don't think it has to do with the Destry situation anymore. On Saturday, Destry went private and Taylor followed her that same day. Destry is obviously buddy with her again and probably happy to be back in the good graces of the animal queen.
Methinks it is an attempt to appease Mama D who obviously did not know about Taylor's group chats or the extent of what was shared by her dumbass daughter. She'll be back with some new excuse soon enough.
LOL taking bets now on whether it's "omg I got offline and just watched the Office nonstop, teehee!" or "I went on a yoga retreat/juice fast" or "I've been talking to the big media outlet that wants to do a story about me!!!!" - instead of admitting she's been on a bender.
Her sperging and endless torrent of tweets when she went on her little witch hunt at Destry made it so fucking clear she wasn't clean or sober lol. Classic tweaked out word vomit. Gotta wonder how much coke she blew through.
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“I’m doing better now.” That sound awfully familiar.
“I’m better. I grew. I learned a lot”
Something went down.
“I’m doing better now.” That sound awfully familiar.
“I’m better. I grew. I learned a lot”
Something went down.
LMAO. An addict doesn’t just forget to take their suboxone. Especially because withdrawals are gradual, it’s not like they just hit all at once. So, she would be able tell she forgot them once she started feeling bad and take them before it got too bad.
It’s not like you forget to take meds at 6 and then by 10 you’re in full blown withdrawals.
She has a way of always making it sound like that. Even with her story how she went into "acute withdrawals". She always has to make it over the top and extreme.
"I have stayed on top of everything WONDERFULLY" Like she cannot talk like a regular humanbeing about anything, can she? She sucks her own dick so much over nothing. I don't believe she's doing much of anything. Maybe watching the office again while strung out. This reeks of a relapse.
She got a fucking gun not that long ago, but now people are suddenly worried? Fuck outta here Taylor.
Thank you! Everytime she says stuff like that, or that she "forgot her medicine and woke up puking" it makes me doubt she's even actually taking subs at all. If you're on your way to be sick enough to puke, you're going to wake up wayy before you get to that point. Someone else said this but it's true- anyone on here who has dealt with addiction knew she was full of shit a long time ago. She just has to make everything sound so dramatic but it just shows how little she knows about addiction and how good she had it when she was using for her to not be able to even fake this stuff properly.
But I guess saying >I had a minor opioid addiction for less than a year, I was very fortunate I nipped it in the bud and didn't suffer any consequences
doesn't have the same effect as>I was injecting the purest China white into my neck hourly in a bed of blood and needles. I contracted hep c because I was just s0o0 sick and needed to qualify more as a junkie. I almost was living in a tent even though I always had enough money to spend on enough dope to get by with then plenty left for tacky clothes, an assistant, funko pops, and Jonny's pearly whites. I was covered head to toe in track marks even though anyone who actually knows what they look like knows I really wasn't. I'm the first person in the world to have seizures from taking subs too early because god forbid I admit to anything less than the worst. Doctors took one look at me and started crying even though I looked the exact fucking same as I do now, and look exponentially better than your average heroin addict, despite my best efforts to seem emaciated and on deaths door.
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Lmao this would second that story cuz he quit Heroin after they broke up or so he says..i would be willing to believe Jonny before Taylor at this point ..but they are both still pieces of shit
Yeah I mean by the looks of >>697827
and his super pinned pupils and loss of teeth he definitely isn't sober
Bet these took like 3 hours to write.
I don't think she's really off the phone like she says. She's just in hiding. The Destry drama made her and her mother look like dumbasses and her group chats with minors probably didn't help. Tinfoil but what if one of those kids' parents saw the chat and shit went down because of that.
I definitely believe something more happened. I wouldn’t be surprised if more parents and children got involved. It absolutely means nothing that Taylor and Destry are following each other on Twitter again. Taylor and her mother will do whatever it takes to save face.
It is fucking weird/disturbing that she has these kinds of friendships with underage kids. No one cares if you act like a child yourself, the fact of the matter is you’re a 22 year old woman. I’m sure Taylor was giving her infamous Heroin 101 lecture to these kids too and i wouldn’t be surprised if a parent caught wind of these conversations. They’re completely inappropriate. She’s inappropriate. Any sane parent would not be okay with their child having a friendship like this with a heroin addict. IDGAF if she has a million YT followers, she is not a role model. She’s a fucking narcissist that preys on children for validation. She is sick in her fucking head and needs psychiatric help.
There were screenshots going around Twitter of Jen messaging Destry, and one of her followers shamed her for it and called her a bully. Plus the pictures of the chat group where Taylor goes off on Destry.
Just the fact alone that there is a private group chat where the majority of the participants are underage is really fucking concerning, especially when they're chatting to an adult who spreads misinformation about drugs and glorifies them.
But she likes to shit on Onion boy so much for the predatory shit he's done yet she's acting predatory herself.
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Look who’s up from her drug nap.
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She has 1 subject she's so fucking boring. Not even bothering with her rant cause it's the same shit every time with no sources
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I can't wait to read a transcript on this trainwreck of a potential video
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I want her to find the 15% in this 2018 findings…
I think a lot of people pay it little attention because it wasn't sexual in nature, thankfully enough.
I don't believe she's completely AWOL/MIA on Twitter. I bet she's just private messaging for now. Narcissists like her, especially one who requires attention and worship 24/7, don't just ditch their narc food source like that. If she really IS AWOL, then something big happened to push her off it for now.>>718959
She'll just say it's a lie. She's not capable of self-criticism and healthy change. She'll just deny or deliberately misconstrue any data she sees.
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2/2 wow she just CANT stay off. I think this is like the 3rd time she said she was turning her phone off for the night
I can only fathom how she’s going to explain psychological versus physical dependence. It’s going to be fucking CRINGE. It’s obvious she found some statistic on google, calculated 15% of 329 million wrong, and uses this false information/miscalculation to justify being a POS narcissistic heroin addict.
>>I know it’s something real in my body >>I never asked these doctors for proof because they were successfully treating me
Wasn’t she just bitching about the healthcare system the other day for putting an opiate warning on a prescription bottle containing an opiate that can kill someone if they misuse and/or abuse it. Didn’t she also bitch about a doctor when she was on a heroin bender. He said something she found rude and insensitive? I can’t remember what because it was fucking ridiculous.
Plus her little statistic isn’t representative of the number of people struggling with addiction worldwide. But I guess they don’t matter because it doesn’t coincide with her calculation. This is going to be a dumpster fire video if she thinks she can just sit there looking like a slut and sperging about statistics that she can’t even back up with a scientific article or a website.
>Anyone can pick up a drug and put it in their mouth enough times to get addicted.
>But once they sober up safely, they will not experience life the way someone with addiction does.
I'm just… stuck here. So the logic is that everyone, literally everyone, can get addicted, which is not wrong technically, but only 15% of those people will live life differently because of said addiction, because I suppose she's treating addiction as a mental illness (which imo it is but it also has a lot to do with choice).
But she's still fucking wrong. Addiction, regardless of environmental and/or genetic factors playing into its development, makes you live life differently, as well as the lives of those around you. An addict's an addict. A recovered addict's still an addict, period.
Even after sobering up, their lives will be different, because they'll have to restructure it in a way that doesn't interfere with their recovery. Why? Because they took substances that fucked with the chemistry of their brain, like that's still there, even if you're part of the 85% of filthy casuals, there was still physical and/or psychological dependence on a subtance, as well as altering your life and the lives of those around you because of said dependence.
She's basically implying that the remaining 85% of those who get addicted and sober up are just going back to normal and not struggle as much as the magical 15% she's part of. Like categorizing people into "addict" and "REAL OG addict".
It doesn't make sense. I feel like she was half-assing it during meetings and misconstrued what was being explained to her probably because she was thinking of Jake's dick idk.
If her argument was that out of a group of recovering addicts, 15% will relapse or struggle with sobriety, then it would be a bit more believable, but even then she'd still need a source to back up those claims, and do actual research, as well as show peer reviewed papers on the topic, and interview people who like, actually are literate enough to explain how addiction works.
If she had SUCH a stressful day, the last thing she would do is forget to take her medication, by her OWN admittion, she thinks about relapse when she's stressed out, so why would this time be any different? Don't you think taking your medication to prevent relapse, or to reduce any stress or craving, or maybe even take too much medication would be at the top of your thought process if you, as an addict with an addict disease, are stressed out?
Because stress is a big factor in relapse.
She's full of shit.
i wouldn't go there. Taylor's admitted she doesn't see herself as bisexual, and that she only had feelings for one woman. Although I doubt that actually happened and she's just trying to further skinwalk Halsey.
Taylor provides enough milk on her own, we don't need to add pedo speculation to the mix. Posting pics showing skin doesn't mean she's trying to groom her underage followers into having a sexual relationship with her. Also it's clear she has a type- older men.
Agreed. She wants the compliments and attention that comes with it. He little tweeny stans see her as some type of celeb and she’s delusional enough to believe it.
Is she grooming the minors for validation because she’s a narcissist (as another anon stated) YESSSSS MOST DEFINITELY
Yeah, I don't think her grooming is related to sexual shit, especially because she has a penchant for men twice her age. And she didn't even confirm she was bi, which is irrelevant either way.
Her grooming has more to do with validating her delusions like >>719009
"i just thought of a really good comparison">proceeds to make a really bad comparison
sure, some people have a genetic disposition for depression and some people have a genetic disposition for addiction, but everybody can become clinically depressed and everybody can become addicted, and not everybody with a disposition will become depressed/addicted.
her therapists, probably: "genes play a role, some studies suggest up to 15% of the population might be more susceptible to drugs due to genetics", taylor: "THE MOMENT I WAS CONCEIVED WAS THE MOMENT I BECAME AN ADDICT"
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>>719028>>Banned from the chain
No Taylor, you were arrested for trespassing you dipshit.
The sheer fucking nerve and delusional entitlement of this white brat
"THE COP ARRESTED ME FOR LITTERING AND TRESSPASSING WHAT THE HELL feel bad for me so unreasonable"
What a fucking dipshit. Jen, collect your child. She's an embarrasment to you.
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Dressed up to watch The Office
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But she's staying on top of everything so wonderfully guys…..
she said here >>718975
that she's got a "busy day" today. I wonder if she's got a court date or something. Is JC actually in town? He hasn't posted anything about SA on twitter
Holy shit she is so fucking stupid.
If shes using depression as an example, the appropriate correlation is that some people do have a genetic risk for depression, and they're more susceptible to it, but /anyone can still get depression/. Even if 15% have the "addict gene" the other 85% /could/ still become an addict even without the gene.
NO ONE does heroin once and never feel the need to go back? It's the most physically addictive substance we know of. Plenty of people dont have the "addict gene" and get addicted because hard drugs like h and meth literally change your brain chemistry?
There /is/ a clinical difference between physical dependence and psychological addiction, but she sure as hell doesnt understand it.
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Don’t think this was posted?
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She got dressed up to go to the vets I think, she's already back in bed.
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Posted about 2 hours ago.
By anesthesia does she mean local or generalized and is it for surgery or biopsy or what?
She's so fucking vague it's mind blowing, and here she is thinking she's some kind of educator.
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samefag and sage for old milk. She posted this 25 days ago on 9/20/19. So this snake has been almost two months without food, which isn't normally a big deal, but Taylor is known for overfeeding (huge weekly meals) so this is a sign the snake is really not well.
Link to picture when it was posted:>>>/pt/707170
“They’re going to biopsy it next week”
Doesn’t take the snake back for a month.
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Yeah this was posted in another thread and we discussed how we been going on forever something is wrong with Celia due to her tongue not forking! Which she at one point even made fun of that we discussed that. I think that was when Bree made a tweet about how a healthy snakes tongue is supposed to fork? She did the whole aLl mY aNiMaLs aRe pErFeCt aNd nEeeeVeR geT siCk spiel too. She's such a neglectful piece of shit with her animals and just uses them to seem more edgy, cool and not liKe oThEr giRlS.
I am willing to guess all her snakes got something wrong with them because of her poor hygiene and unwillingness to quaranteen.
This is a tweet about Sabor when she just got back home after getting kicked out of sober living.
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She has heard the sniffles in every single snake it seems. (This is from when she got kicked out of sober living also) Its so ridiculous.
is this the same vet that said Celia is in pristine condition and stabbed Tofu with a needle?
And yes, respiratory infections spread to every snake and all her snakes are probably sick from the blood python that she dumped on Destry.
That's the precise reason why you QUARANTINE. BEFORE. you bring in new snakes.
Quarantine alone is not going to fix any problems, I am just saying it loud for those cows in the back.
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She's being a spastic again on Twitter about animal care while she has her hedgehogs in awful cages herself. >>719124
The Celia thing was spotted quite a while before that sick blood, that being said she probably helped spread some more shit with that, especially with her desperately wanting to score cool points for the bite and it losing multiple teeth in her hand.
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Ey Taylor, here's a video idea "I relapsed and am a dishonest piece of shit that abuses subs"
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She's keeping her hedgehogs in this for those that do not know.
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So much for no bites from Tofu and you working on his behavior. Even though you're literally egging him on. Fuck you for unreasonably stressing your snake.
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even funnier bc she justifies herself with "its about the GROWTH!!"
ok so you regressed taylor, you dumb bitch
(Anon who took the pic) I don’t know I wondered the same thing but that’s just how it showed up on my insta when I screenshot it..I’m not Jonny I swear lmao I would off myself if so lol and I agree with everyone saying he ain’t sober either but think he def slowed down after they broke up cuz he didn’t have his cash cow anymore..but his swollen ass sausage fingers prove that him being sober is a lie anyways. Taylor’s a narc and Jonnys an abusive
rapist what’s new?
Taylor's reply was basically confirming she doesn't even know what sources are.
Why everyone must listen to some uneducated girl with a drug addiction is beyond me. Go back to school, Taylor. Then you can have the authority to preach about things you have actually been educated on. It says a lot that her fans are underage because they just plain don't know any better. And it makes it even more harmful because they are so impressionable and they believe her, and believe that if they were able to have one drink, or smoke weed once, and be fine, that they are not part of that "15%" and are able to use heroin once and be fine.
She conveniently Upgraded cages after the video, did u guys catch that? Weird how she never tweeted about it as she always does.
Expect an update video on her hedgehogs to prove it after she goes and really upgrade them lol
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Sage for major tinfoil, but check out the size discrepancy between with Tofu with the dates.
October 23rd to November 1st and he grew that much? >>719226
And from November 1st to December 1st he shrank? Read the dates.
> Ok person a has The Magical Addict Gene and b doesn't they both use heroin for 2 years. Would you basically be able to tell any difference at that point? Would their treatment look any different? How do you possibly test for this?
I mean, I guess you could tell why they got addicted through family history and environmental factors when they get to rehab and through therapy, but they still get to the same result: They still got addicted to a mind altering substance. The only difference is that one of them probably had a genetic predisposition and the other got addicted because of environmental factors like peer pressure, for example. And even then, a genetic predisposition doesn't exactly guarantee you'll struggle with addiction. I only have anecdotal data but I've seen people who come from a family where addiction happens and they just… don't get addicted, whereas others who come from families where there's no magical gene and they get addicted.
You could argue that maybe the one with a genetic predisposition might struggle more with sobriety than the other, but you cannot tell for certain because each organism is different, and even then you still need to back up said argument with statistics and data.
Like any way you cut it, what she says doesn't make any sense. The treatment is the same for everyone regardless of genetic/environmental factors, and this is with mental illnesses in general. Obviously there's a variety of meds that some people respond to better than others but like, the standard's still there.
Taylor's aiming to explain something that's beyond her knowledge. Even if she interviewed people on the topic and went full Shane Dawson with a series about addiction, she needs to do independent research on her own, because she's nowhere near well versed on the topic. She failed to complete rehab and got kicked out of two sober facilities, as well as banned from receiving treatment from a clinic for life and banned from a hotel chain. She's backtracking on that 15% Magic Gene Theory because I guess she lurks here and saw people trying to make sense out of her shit, as well as people on Twitter calling her out.
Even with her Magic Addict Gene, she still has to fucking own that she's a goddamn addict who made and keeps making fucked up choices. She needs to get back to rehab and actually complete it before she tries to educate others on the topic.
You just said the vet took a culture in September and you were waiting for results? Keep your lies straight you dumb bitch.
Also you cannot convince me she is sober comparing her writing here. >>719073>>719060
I get the relapse posting is popular and I agree with you. I'm just so tired. I find it really hard to speculate about exactly when/if she's high sober and honestly I think it has probably happened more than once at this point if not that she's already back to using semi-regularly.
Not even because of Taylor as a person but people that age who use hard drugs (hell any addiction) like that and aren't serious as hell about recovering don't succeed. All the therapy mommy can pay for doesn't matter if you don't really want to be there.
Everything she talks about addiction centers around herself. If she brings up anyone else it's to highlight their downfalls not their recovery. It's all ego trip shit. I don't think I heard her mention a mentor she particularly looked up or even talking much about the experience of getting a sponser but I remember everything she's said about her favorite drugs.
At this point I'm going to probably hibernate on this thread for a year until she comes clean again with a new vid: I'm Sober…Again? My EVEN TRUER Addiction Story
Yes anon, I agree about the whole relapse thing. I was the one that commented “she’s been relapsed,” because so many said that she has on so many occasions now.
she’s almost always on something. She’s reloaded a long time ago as it was also confirmed with the 30 day soup and even after that it’s obvious she is still abusing her opiates or maybe using other things again.
I'll admit I can't remember exactly what brand Gus's cage was off the top of my head. Nevertheless, we've all seen it before and know it was the same size as a fucking critter trail. Tay, this is an image board…do you think we don't have the screengrabs as evidence of that? I guess claiming that she'd never use it again is supposed to excuse the fact that she never upgraded him despite being able to afford it (and even though this was well after her channel blew up and she has no excuses for being less educated than her viewers)? >>719185>>719193
And yeah, ofc we're supposed to believe she hasn't posted about the new hedgie cages. Yet she tosses a couple fake plants in a cramped snake tub and makes a whole mother-fucking video about it because that's the biggest effort toward enrichment she's made in years. It's just rich, convenient, and highly suspect coming from this pathological liar. If those hedgies were ever in good cages it was damn well short lived so it's a moot point. What kind of self proclaimed animal goddess keeps hedgies in shitty pet store guinea pig crap and has the nerve to get on a high horse about people who do the exact same below minimum pet care? It'd almost be hilarious that she has such an ego over her painfully inadequate animal husbandry if animals weren't suffering.
I agree. Unless someone spots a genuine track mark, or has some solid info, the speculation regarding her sobriety is pretty null. Nobody stays up all night, sleeping all day, going on long winded rants about drugs when they’re sober. Especially not someone recently clean from heroin.
I do feel like the conversation has become redundant.
We all mostly seem to be on the same page, so pointing it out every three seconds seems tired.
Regardless, I am excited to get the tea on what’s been going on with these animals / and maybe Jonny getting his stuff. I wonder what happened (if he did)
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Gus' shitty cage.
Even before the new “cheese”, didn’t she get a new “dumb looking” fish that she was sooo excited about? And then literally we never hear her talk about it? It’s like she expected getting the fish to explode her channel and views again, but all she does is lie about how she gets her pets so who really cares? The new cow fish video only got 600k views, I’m sure she’s not happy to not be constantly be hitting the millions anymore. Maybe that’s why she instantly got bored with the new fish, they’re not making her enough money and getting more attention I guess.
I agree though, I just find it so weird how you can accumulate new animals (fish or not) as quickly as her and just act like it’s nothing… she gets bored of them so quickly like they’re accessories.
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Sorry forgot to add the picture. I found out that Celia's tongue did not fork back in January 2018 already. So she's been having this issue for a very long time now.
this tinfoiling sounds so real
specially when you put it like this, it all comes to full image. one lung, punctured, snake getting blue. how long it took her to take it to vet when she was high? probably died and got replaced then. i wonder now if this kind on skin colour of this snake is rare and hard to get on reptile market?
was tofu easy to replace?
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here's when she first got tofu and his price. he has grown, but not by much
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Same exact cage on Amazon. Only the best of the best for beloved Gus.
wait, she was banned from a chain of hotels? that's, ahh, real interesting. if i didn't know she doesn't have an arrest record i'd say she was hooking or slinging because those are the only two things that get you banned from hotels.
she is so fucking milky because she can't shut up about herself. it's fascinating, she spills more than any other cow.
Right, it's always some miracle story with her and how she was able to save every animal that she has somehow.
I don't know how anyone inexperienced could do an injection on a snake that small, let alone WHILE HIGH? Bullshit. Then he went blue and then came back to life? Complete bullshit.
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it’s a whole set of her tongue not forking in any photo too
good video considering tnd talks so much its hard to keep up with her.
wish she would have added her photos to show her pinned pupils to that could be up for discussion in her comments as well.
Beginner snakeanon here. He does seem to be growing on the slow side, which can happen if it is not being fed frequently or is refusing meals, or if it’s being given too small a prey size. (Or if you killed your snake while stabbing it while high and replaced it with a younger one, kek)
He does seem to be growing slowly, from my perspective at least.
I haven’t seen this one, at least, and I’ve been following since the beginning of the Jonny saga. Great find.
She really does just fling them around, doesn’t she? It’s gross how rough she is with them.
3.13 she almost dropped the snake!
What was the point in Taylor's presence? She just looks all awkward, self conscious and out of place, just looking at her she looks like she's overthinking and too aware of herself, sad.
i always think about gemini in these cases.
she bought a 10k snake just to do a stupid video.
she barely even posts about him anymore.
prob obese af now.