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No. 557047

20 year old "family friendly pet mom" Youtuber and her 31 year old junkie boyfriend Jonny Craig.

Previous thread: >>>/snow/548305

The basics:
> Taylor is a notorious animal hoarder known for collecting 30+ rare and exotic pets and manhandling/mistreating them for the sake of her Youtube channel which has over 1 million subscribers. Several pets have died in her care, many more have fallen ill due to her neglect or disappeared after "rehoming" them. Fails to give proper enclosures for many of her pets, including overstuffing fish tanks, keeping her kittens locked in the bathroom, and her mouse and hedgehog in the closet.
> Jonny Craig is the frontman of the band Slaves and is most well-known for being an outspoken abusive junkie. He has been in and out of rehab centers for a decade now and has been kicked out of multiple bands and off of tours for his behavior. He is usually homeless when he does not have a girlfriend to leech off of.
> Several of Jonny's ex-girlfriends have come out with stories of Jonny's physical and sexual abuse, including rape at knife-point. His ex Chelsea confided this in Taylor when she and Jonny first started dating, in which Taylor's response was to laugh with Jonny and make a public spectacle of it.
> Recently moved out of her parent's house and into an apartment with Jonny Craig, which caused public drama between her and her mother, who adamantly disapproves of Jonny after hearing of his history and discovering that together he and Taylor were snorting coke and heroin.
> Taylor loves to throw pity parties for herself and dodge around the real issues when faced with criticism about her husbandry, hoarding, and hypocrisy. She can never keep her stories straight and will tell outright lies only to contradict them hours later. Her fans are sycophants who only encourage her.

Taylor's Links:
Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/taylorndean
Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/taylorndean
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaOTXKuQ-t-eTikY96B9n-Q
Facebook (private:) https://www.facebook.com/Taylor.Nicole.Dean

Jonny's Links:
Twitter: https://twitter.com/jonnycraig4L
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jonnycraig4l

List of all Taylor's pets:

-Made two videos of her snakes, one of them just doing dumb shit like laundry and one of them eating
-Has been criticised for using eco earth for her snakes substrate but doesn't care because "she thinks it's good"
-Most likely she's keeping her monitor lizard because o may gash guys he's so tame and use to me and the pet shop insists he's CB
-Left her pets again to go meet Jonny's friend for their birthday
-Is soon leaving again for a holiday in Disney
-Recently spewed facts about animals which have been pointed out to be incorrect
-Everyone believed her GTP was dead since its water bowl was dry and it didn't seem to be in the tank but she's rubbed it in our faces that it's alive
-Impulse bought a mantis shrimp; chucking it in her predator tank until she sets up a new tank for it (it'll likely murder her fish or break out of the tank)

No. 557073

who wants to bet she's gonna come home to a flooded apartment after leaving the mantis shrimp with her "animal professionals" to go to Disney

No. 557074

i think so but i hope none of her animals die because of it (the fish will tho)

No. 557083

Jesus Taylor is a stupid bitch, look at this shrimp fucking up the reef like mike tyson


No. 557102

Is the mantis shrimp in the same aquarium as the lionfish atm? If so, if the shrimp mike tyson’s its way out of the glass then everything will fall out, including the lionfish and if that happens, the cats might get too curious and get poked by it’s barbs.

Why does Taylor like to hoard and also put her animals in danger just for her own benefit?

No. 557116

the cats are apparently locked out but would be fine getting poked by barbs its similar to getting a bee sting according to most. if he breaks out he and 3 fish will die tho.

No. 557129

People in Taylor's Twitter saying they're going to get a mantis shrimp for their first saltwater tank

No. 557132

Those cats are gonna be locked in the bathroom for over a week.

No. 557139

Can’t wait until Taylor makes a mantis shrimp care guide full of entirely fake facts and misinformation

No. 557142


Imagine the fucking disaster that’ll happen once her cats start getting comfortable jumping on everything and attempt to jump onto the lid of or near the predator tank with the shrimp in it

No. 557143

And here we all thought she would possibly learn from the monitor situation. She wants the drama to stop but keeps giving us more fuel for speculation

No. 557148


I can’t believe that she embarrassed herself in front of the entire Youtube herp community by basically admitting to impulse buying and doing zero research, and now she wants to try the fishkeeping community

No. 557172

File: 1523896570502.png (474.99 KB, 595x481, Capture.PNG)

Ghost looks different or is it just me?

No. 557183


Pointed cats (ragdolls, Siamese, Siberians, etc.) get more color as they age.

No. 557185

The last picture you'd have to have the phone so close to the cat it's probably uncomfortable af. His eyes also suggest play mode to me tbh.

Can we all take a moment to appreciate the one thing Taylor does right? She has created a community of strangers that don't like her to research all the shit she does wrong and could go wrong, it's wonderful.

No. 557202

After having pets die from starvation or dehydration, i wonder if her cats are underweight? Can never know due to all the floof. Also, if they were neutered by now, she would’ve taken videos/pictured of them “drunk” regardless of having a cone or not because from my experience of my dog getting neutered, i took so much videos of him so high after the prodecure because it was so cute and funny. So i doubt they ever took them in to get them done and probably just sugar coated the situation with lies again

Sage for speculation and a hint of blogposting

No. 557237

He’s in play mode for sure. Or rather play/hunting mode. My cats eyes get bigger when something catches his attention and he has to catch it/murder it

No. 557253


I'm just hoping some of the bigger names in the aquarium community will be more inclined to actually call her out on her bullshit than the herpers have been. I get that smaller channels are worried about Taylor's rabid stans going apeshit on them, but surely if they all supported each other they could survive that no problem.

No. 557268

I don't understand what about this druggie bitch attracts such rabid stans.

No. 557277

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No. 557288

Well, hopefully is always good! Especially when your home and the safety of your other animals depends on it. Just further illustrates this as either an impulse purchase or her lack of knowledge/experience.

No. 557290

She got a tank very quickly, interesting yet slightly suspicious.

No. 557294



"Hopefully" it won't kill your fish :)

She's basically admitting to have not done any research at all

No. 557306


"Pretty thick" probably just means standard-thickness because she had to buy the first acrylic tank she could find to hold her impulse-purchase, and extra thick ones really aren't that easy to find.

No. 557314


She has to be bullshitting. Yesterday she said she put a tank inside her predator tank and now she's got an non-standard acrylic tank all of a sudden? Sure Jane…

No. 557372

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Her fans are so delusional.
This tweet is a reply to the introduction of her new accesory.
It's really ironic because in that tweet she states that the mantis shrimp can punch faster than the speed of sound and see more colors than humans, and neither of those are true.
So yeah no, she doesn't do research, at most she parrots the first thing she see on one of those animal fun fact websites for children.

No. 557375

No that was actually accurate, they do have the most complex eyes in the animal kingdom, and mantis shrimp can detect ten times more color than a human, including ultraviolet light. They as well can indeed punch with the speed of a .22 caliber bullet.

She's still an idiot, but those facts were accurate.

No. 557380


Let's make a running list of all the "facts" Taylor has told, only to be corrected within seconds by other, more educated people:

1. Perpetuating the Nanny Dog myth (then pretending like she knew it was a myth the entire time in her pitbull video like she didn't get called out for it lmao)

2. Saying that Mantis Shrimp aren't known for breaking out of tanks

3. Her weird ass methods of feeding her snakes that are "picky eaters"

4. Buying the entirely wrong species of monitor when anyone with two braincells can check Google and tell the difference in a few seconds

Feel free to add more! I haven't been watching her that long to notice any other weird slipups like those

No. 557381


5. Using Eco Earth substrate for her ball pythons

No. 557383


6. Promoting betta sorority tanks.

No. 557389

No. 557390


7. Using red lamps on her animals claiming "they love it" and advising others to use them, when all it does is give them 24/7 light so they have no day/night cycle.

No. 557402

Why is a picture of an innocent baby posted as the threader header? Is there a way please that the image can be changed? Seems like we have some pretty good photoshoppers anons amongst us if they want to make some works of art.

No. 557405

Cant change a header but if you dont like it you can hide it by clicking (hide) right next to where it says "file"

No. 557406

Ps if you look someone photoshopped a monitor trying to eat the baby lmao

No. 557410

>>557132 That's so cruel, those poor cats. Why did Taylor get cats only to travel and be away from them so much and lock them up during those times. I'm sure the cats don't like smelling their own litter boxes. Taylor should know what it feels like to be locked up in a small room for a week with probably no lights and see how she likes it.

No. 557411

>>557172 It's normal for cats with color points to darken as they age. Same cat.

No. 557413


And they're not even tiny kittens anymore so they'll take up a lot more room in the bathroom compared to when they were tiny kittens so now they have even less room in there. I don't know what she must tell herself to justify all of the neglect she puts on to her animals. She's truly a disgusting human being.

No. 557417

How is a baby being in the thread picture offensive to you ?

Maybe channel that outrage into the fact that 1/3 of the pets Taylor has owned have been killed or "rehomed"

No. 557420

>>557380 Her receipt from the petshop would have had the type of Monitor she purchased on it and she could have easily gone back to the shop and gotten a reprint if needed. They have her signed signature on purchase record. She just flat out fucking lied.

No. 557432

honestly the cats would be better cared for, actually get neutered/shots/medical attention, have a cleaner environment/more space, and way more attention in a no-kill shelter. this is rarely the case. most people I know who take subpar care of their pets still love them, still give them attention/space, and still TRY. Taylor doesn't even fucking try. And she has the resources to give these cats a great life.

No. 557438

>>557417 Because it's not Taylor's baby and because it has nothing to do with her animal hoarding. I feel like it's derailing in a sense but that's just my opinion.

"Maybe channel that outrage into the fact that 1/3 of the pets Taylor has owned have been killed or "rehomed""

Exactly, the threader header could have had said neglected animals pictured and made tons more sense, again imo.

No. 557439

Has anyone tweeted Taylor yet and asked her if the cats are neutered like Jonny said was happening? Or is she blocking people left and right asking.

No. 557442

If it’s with the lion fish, it’s in a Biocube 29 - which is GLASS. If she has it in a plastic case inside the tank, it’s PLASTIC not acrylic and it’s not thick plastic. What’s the point in lying? Also, peacocks CAN break out but it’s VERY RARE.

Y’all are just as bad as her with the false information……

No. 557448

pretty sure it was the only ps in the last thread
if you wanna make the next thread image go ahead

No. 557452

>it's not Taylor's baby and because it has nothing to do with her animal hoarding.
kinda does relate to her when she's keeping a monitor that can grow up to 4-5feet long, so it can actually attack a baby especially when her "animal care-taker" has a baby that will likely be in the apartment while Taylor goes off and party

No. 557456


You sound like one of those people whining last thread that no one was going to take us seriously because we called Taylor stupid names or speculated or speculated on less important topics when there's no milk.

The baby ain't in any danger; his eyes aren't even open yet and half his face is covered. If you wanna get mad at someone, get mad at Taylor for posting the picture at all

No. 557466

File: 1523911589136.jpg (131.27 KB, 450x300, tnd.jpg)

This is what I think of every time people mention the mantis shrimp punching through the tank. lol

No. 557468


It perfectly illustrates her lack of care for basic safety and other living creatures. The point is she totally would let a defenseless baby or kitten or whatever near a dangerous predator. Her recklessness and inability to follow basic safety while buying extremely dangerous animals (monitor, shrimp) and housing them next to her other defenseless pets is a major concern. It’s not off topic. You’re being too sensitive because it’s someone else’s baby. But unless it’s your baby, chill out over it and move on

No. 557475

I know some mums avoid cats like death when they have a newborn. Is it dangerous/possibly dangerous or?

No. 557480

One speed of sound is 767.269 miles per hour, a mantis shrimp punch is 31 to 52 mph. If I google "mantis shrimp speed of sound" I get 1 result that's dubious.

No. 557482

>>557452 That's actually a really good point and my opinion has changed somewhat. Since technically the Monitor belongs to the baby's Mother but staying with Taylor, so she's involved. I think Taylor and the Mother would be impulsive enough to let the baby out around it too, since they impulsively purchased it. Scary.

No. 557483


It's because cats can shed a bacteria called Toxoplasma gondii in their poop for a couple of weeks if they get infected with it, and the bacteria can be harmful to pregnant ladies (specifically the baby i think), but generally it would be difficult to contract the bacteria unless you're sniffing their poop or eating it.

That's why there was a pretty big issue for people when Taylor had her heavily pregnant friend look after her cats while she was away since the friend would have been cleaning their litter trays.

No. 557485



No. 557486

>>557456 I wasn't one of those people, you can sit down. There has been plenty of milk, you must not have noticed the Mantis Shrimp controversy presently.

No. 557493

>>557475 No,responsible people can have cats and newborns, even dogs. Because responsible people keep their infants environments healthy and clean and take good care of their animals. I really hope Betsy doesn't bring that baby over to Taylor's filthy place. However both Betsy and Taylor have illustrated they are both absolutely stupid and selfish and immature. Betsy seems like the type that would purchase an animal only to get rid of it later, dump it off at a shelter because it interfered with the baby somehow because she wasn't responsible enough. Taylor hasn't once mentioned Betsy having a say in where the Monitor goes, it can't go to Betsy's because of the baby (if she's responsible) and Taylor is ignoring that it SHOULD go to an appropriate home.

No. 557495


I said "sound like" nimrod. Learn to read. Also "when there's no new milk" not "there's no new milk." Jesus christ

Just stop complaining or leave if the picture triggers you that much

No. 557503

>>557495 I had already changed my opinion and agreed about the image in several posts above, so it's you who can't read.

No. 557506


my original reply to you was before you "changed your mind" lmao

No. 557509

>>557506 You are basically arguing with yourself at this point when you continue to try and fight with someone who willingly changed their opinion. Get a hobby, you need one for your anger issues.

Now back to the topics on the thread or leave.

No. 557511


lmao y'all trying so hard to come up with some sort of burn but you just look embarrassing

more to the point: I'm sick of seeing "stop derailing!!!!" comments every ten replies because someone is throwing a fit that no one is talking about what they want to talk about

Ignore the side conversations, or steer the conversation back to the previous topic, don't just sit there and whine because you're just as useless as the people arguing(derailing)

No. 557512

Back on topic, has Taylor posted any new update on how the Mantis shrimp is being housed? Like a full on aquarium shot? It seems to me like she's avoiding showing how he's housed but of course it's speculation. Where did this magical acrylic tank suddenly come from that she didn't have before? Is she just saying she had it? It seems to me she bought it thinking it was a myth that they can actually punch through glass and panicked after the internet told her otherwise.

No. 557518


She posted a video last night (that she already deleted) feeding it a dead fish, but it wasn't a full tank shot

No. 557522

>>557518 Thank you, I wish someone could have snagged it. Do you know the reason why she deleted it? My biggest worry is that the Mantis Shrimp will break the aquarium, water gushes out, small electrical fire happens, and those thin drywall walls she has (all apartments have these) will go up in flame. Cats don't simply get burned, they literally burn up like a torch because of their fur and it's a horrible painful death. There are so many apartment fires every year because of irresponsible people leaving something unattended properly, trapped pets inside the rooms get burned to death.

She could have literally waited until after Disneyland and upgrading her other tanks to get the Mantis shrimp. I swear she's on drugs when she makes purchases lately.

No. 557524

Could be she searched “thick walled aquarium” on amazon and clicked that Same Day button, because, you know, she’s lazy and could care less about what her animal really needs

No. 557529

if only you posted this earlier, would've been a good op pic

No. 557536

Has Taylor said anything about quarantining considering she's ALREADY put it in a tank with other fish? Or is she ignoring that too?

No. 557542

>>557536 It's irresponsible how she announces a new animal and putting it in the wrong enclosure with animals that it could potentially and will harm, only to immediately after ignore all concern or questions regarding it. Can you make it anymore obvious Taylor you're panicking.

No. 557543


With the amount of animals Taylor has, she could really benefit from one of those "animals trapped inside" stickers that a lot of pet stores sell to put inside the entry way of your home, or one of those "I have animals at home" keychains in the event of something serious happening.

Though I guess she doesn't think that far ahead or care enough

No. 557544

She's only mentioned that since it arrived earlier she's putting it in a tank within a tank, nothing about quarantining.

No. 557552

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No. 557556

File: 1523933613729.jpeg (114.27 KB, 640x566, 33AA8337-5BFC-4A18-8B9C-C155D8…)

“Invest in a costly and time consuming saltwater tank like me rather than a 20$ ticket to fulfill your momentary desire to see fish at a professional aquarium!”

No. 557557

>>557544 She never quarantines her animals and she ignores people who question why she doesn't.

She should have had a tank ready and didn't, and there is no way the Mantis Shrimp arrived early. If she had a tank prepared long in advance, even if it were early she would be prepared. Animal hoarders don't prepare room for new arrivals or quarantine, and neglect the old pets, and she is a classic example of this.

No. 557591

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This is about Jonny not Taylor, but I thought the interaction was funny because it was one of his fans. He blocked them both over a potential Star Wars debate.

No. 557685

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I know it’s not recent but holy shit at how she handled those kittens. Animals are literally nothing but objects and props to her. Who the hell would ever hold any cat like that let alone such a fragile small one.

No. 557691

I noticed she has already deleted the tweet about making an aquarium series or whatever it was… Lol already knows she can't be arsed/it wouldn't be up for 4 months.

No. 557703

So how long until the next purchased new animal. She's probably already shopping for it. I bet she is completely panicking now about the Mantis Shrimp with the improper housing. It will take a strong lesson of disaster for this stupid slut to wake up, and even then maybe not. If all of her animals were killed off, she would just immediately get new animals the next day.

No. 557704

The kitten does look super cute, but it is NOT an excuse. I cannot imagine myself grabbing a poor animal in an uncomfortable and dangerous way just to take a photo. I would be horrified that I will harm it

No. 557706

>>557685 Can you imagine how unsafe little Nemo felt in that moment? Look at his splayed out paws and tucked in tail, he was terrified. No compassion, she just wanted her picture and no care for the kittens emotional well being. It's really no wonder the female kitten deteriorated so fast and died, on top of them both being starved and there really is evidence of that. She even jokes about the female kitten's death. Then one week later after she died, went out and bought Ghost off of Craiglist.

No. 557710


Look at him struggling to find his footing while he's being completely unsupported underneath him, poor boy. At least they've grown so Taylor can't manhandle them like this as much, though i'm sure she still finds ways to stress them out for her own benefit.

No. 557715

Amazed we don't have a bet going on with what animal she might possibly get next….

No. 557716

I'm not sure if she might have had two but she 'rehomed' her angelfish a while ago.
She mentioned it towards the end of her ick video that she got rid of it because it bit Cheese.

No. 557717

>>557716 I bet the Angel died and she lied. She said the same thing about the Seahorses that she rehomed them.

No. 557734

She did something similar when the gray kitten was still alive. Like she held them down with one hand which was obviously hurting or at the very least stressing the animals.

No. 557749

Yeah this is where I get angry. Everything is dangerous to kittens at that age. The slightest thing can send a previously healthy baby suddenly downhill. Am I supposed to believe that holding them like that wasn’t stressful to them? Knowing that stress can be a serious fucking risk to a baby animal so young?

There’s several pics of her holding them both dangerously in one hand, stretched away from her body, usually in a car or outside so who knows what the plan was if they fucking fell from that height…I know we’ve moved on, we’re probably six serious scandals past this but it makes me so angry how she just went out and took these babies claiming to be an expert when she wasn’t even aware enough to not hold them like a struggling goddamn turtle and almost certainly caused the death of that grey kitten through stress or a lack of knowing what exactly to look for in a kitten that isn’t thriving. Because she wasn’t fucking qualified to do it.

No. 557763

ok why are you calling her a slut in every post you make? It's actually really annoying

No. 557772

This is the type of forum where people can say literally anything about the lolcow. She’s been called worse and it’s not going to be the last time she’s called a slut. Don’t derail with knitpicking comments about which choice of word people use. -I’m not the original anon but I’m saying it nicely before you get attacked for derailing over something as stupid as the word slut-

No. 557795

Good concept but that picture looks nothing like Taylor, it would be better if you used a picture of her that actually looks like her

No. 557867

That is her, the anon just morphed her face to look like she’s gettig punched.

Anyways, a moment of silence for those poor animals that died from the hands of Taylor’s fans that bought them out of impulse/to get attention from her so they either have no idea what to do so they get bored and forget them, or just throw them in an aquarium without proper care and quarantine.

No. 557884

I can tell none of you ever raised kittens. Holding one on its back is definitely the least of the taylor drama.

The problem is only if she were trying to feed him while he was on his back but I don't think she did any bottle feeding which is probably why the female died. They looked young enough to still need bottles. She really never posted enough about them at all.

No. 557887

What about all the exposed holding of them in the car and the like. I've never raised kittens before but that just seemed like a bad idea the first moment I saw it. Those cats never seemed to have much in the way of blankets / something to keep them warm. Holding Nemo on his back up there was a symptom of a much larger problem of her general mishandling imho.

No. 557888


She did? She posted a video of bottle feeding

No. 557891


Well you obviously can't tell well enough since i've personally raised at least 10 kittens and a handful of cats. I'd never hold any of the kittens i've raised (some of them from birth) the way that Taylor held them. It makes them feel uncomfortable and stressed and is totally unneccesary unless it was temportarily to check them over. Not for Taking photos like Taylor did that probably took at least 10 mins. Sure, it's not as big a deal as other things she has done but it certainly demonstrates that she doesn't care about the way she mishandles her animals or about their mental wellbeing while doing so.

No. 557914

It's repetitive and annoying and obviously the same person who will spam several comments in a row. They need to learn the rules or leave.

No. 557937

I agree. To the people that thinks it’s not so bad, imagine her trying to take that photo? Kittens can get extremely wiggly (forgot the word. Skirmy? Idk lol) trying to position themselves upright, and with her holding him with one hand, i imagine Nemo trying to turn as hard as he could while Taylor is turning him and swinging him around so aggressively. For people that’s experienced (or who have common sense and actually care), they would have them bundled up 90% of the time when they’re held so they’re cozy, warm, and safe (from falls especially)

And this is coming from someone who never had to take care of a 7 week old or younger kitten. If someone actually cares about their pets, they wouldn’t even try to hold young kittens so far from their chest in the first place and that’s if they really have to

Sage for blogging because whatever Taylor tries to do is triggering, but i cant look away from her milk

No. 557964


I've raised many litters of kittens. It's important to support their bellies just like any other adult cat. Especially when they're so tiny. Not only is that stressful for the kitten, it'll effect it's behavior as they grow older. You want your cat to feel safe with you and when being held.

No. 557974

I have raised four orphan litters, actually, and I stand by what I said. Never in the 5 years I’ve volunteered and fostered have I ever flipped a kitten that young (or any age really) onto its back while holding it in one hand so I can take a picture. I’m not saying it’s the worst thing she’s done, but it can stress kittens out and they are incredibly delicate at that age, so why would you do it?

Also she absolutely bottle fed them. She didn’t know how to do it properly.

No. 557979

Even vets wouldn't do this. The normal restraint method is how a mother cat would hold them and they naturally just go 'limp'

No. 558017

File: 1523989282613.jpg (126.14 KB, 1600x900, onepunchmantis.jpg)

one punch mantis.

No. 558031

>>557914 I follow the rules just fine. And Taylor is a slut, and she's also an animal hoarder, are you going to start scolding for calling her that now too? Fuck off.(calm your autism)

No. 558056

really tho calm ur autism
How exactly is she a slut lmao??? Like wut. She’s an animal hoarder but tbh u are annoying as fuck I’ve seen u the past few threads

No. 558063

STOP arguing back ur just as bad. (I am also now just as bad).

Can we get back to nitpicking cause we have no milk please? We have much important internet stuff to discuss like Taylors new Mike Tyson mantis shrimp biting the ear off her other tank inhabitants

No. 558102

I wonder if she’s having trouble with her tank atm while her mantis one punching everything?

No. 558112

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I fear for this cutie :(

No. 558131

Another pettuber just uploaded a video about all her new aquariums and auto misters. For someone with 1mil+ subscibers and $6,000 bracelets and playing $25,000+ for teeth, i would assume Taylor would also start buying huge aquariums and vivariums for all her animals with auto misters, etc, but watching her latest videos, her animals are all on her dirty floor or on old storage crates with hides that’s not meant for reptiles. Her place looks like a crack den and it’s crazy how her stans think her animal care is the best there is. I wonder where her youtube check goes to if she doesn’t want to use it on her animals? Jonny? Partying and drugs?

No. 558133


Just let your cat chew on your expensive bracelet

No. 558139

So while Ghost being latched onto her arm this way is not the worst thing, it is a symptom of her and Jonny's manhandling. Letting your kittens play with your hand and doing things like forcefully rolling them over or tossing them onto each other to fight can teach them that it's ok to bite and claw at you. While it seems like Ghost is being careful, it's still not behavior cat behaviorists encourage.

No. 558141

I keep watching videos of the mantis shrimp cracking glass


No. 558147

>I wonder where her youtube check goes to if she doesn’t want to use it on her animals? Jonny? Partying and drugs?

Basically, yeah.
Taylor was never in it for the animals, she saw them as props to make her quirky. What she's wanted all along is become a model. The reason she has so many animals, and this is told by herself in one of her videos, isn't really because she wants to be Great Value Bindi Irwin or whatever; it's because she didn't have a normal school experience and used animals as substitutes for real friendships.

It's truly never been about the animals, but literally to fill a void. Obviously now she's become more cynical about it.

No. 558162

Yeah I agree with you, I think its just in her nature to not really care about animals for the longevity of their life, shes the definition of the ads that shelters run out saying dogs aren't just for christmas. She is the impulse buyer everyone warns against.

Taylors mental illness isnt an excuse either because nomatter how lazy you get with yourself, your animals can't look after themselves. Doing the bare minimum isn't fair on a creature you've taken the responsibility to look after

No. 558165


lol wut. It didn’t even break the glass. Yeah they’re dangerous but the stories of them breaking glass are rare.

Stop. Nitpicking. When. There’s. No. New. Milk.

Stop falsifying facts.

Worst part about th situation is it was an impulse buy with no tank available.

No. 558166

Lol model, for what? T-shirts for Hot Topic bcause she’s so edgey and #relatable? Well, hope she knows it’s too late for that and no matter how many animals she takes in and makes excuses that she has money, it can’t fill that void especially with her type of attitude/personality that she has that she doesn’t want to fix or deal with so she just blocks it out like how she blocks people on twitter when she doesn’t agree with them.

No. 558211

Yes!!! because my roommate did that with her cat as a kitten and now when we pet him (when he asks) he immediately latches on and starts kicking and biting

No. 558215

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No. 558220


How can anyone live like that… Poor cats.. :(

No. 558222

She literally looks like an addict

No. 558230

I’ve dealt with oxy addicts that would be appalled by the state of this room.
Who lives like that?

No. 558246


Normally I'm a bit annoyed at the anons that go on about every little mark on her skin and say "She's on drugs picking her skin!!1" but seeing this it's undeniable. Both her and Jonny have been going at it by the looks of it…

No. 558292

Something that happens rarely is something that still happens. Pointing out that something can happen, even though rarely, is not falsifying facts.

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No. 558311

I guess like an instathot? I mean we know she wouldn't have been the next Kate Moss that's for sure. That was the whole idea behind moving to L.A. to begin with.

No. 558330

They look like extras from Breaking Bad.

No. 558333

holy heroin hooker

No. 558336

Her hair is a yellow bleached mess. It looks awful!!

She should have kept her hair brown, it looked so nice brown.

No. 558344

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I wonder if Taylor will be attending.

No. 558345

That's the back of the biocube. So looks like it's not in a tank inside of the biocube.

No. 558347


yeah and it's not necessarily typical for a 30+ year old to still be getting acne all the time and it's always an open wound

they're definitely doing drugs

No. 558348

Am I missing something here? I don't see what's so damning about this photo

No. 558368

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Can’t remember if Taylor is still going to be in Florida then but if she’s not, I have no doubt she’ll fly to LA just for this

No. 558371

he should have at least 10 inches of substrate to burrow in, he probably feels so exposed and stressed out

No. 558376

LOL is she developing jowls?! How?? She's not even fat!!

No. 558381


If she does it wouldn't be to honor Steve, it would probably be to try to shove her "Steve Irwin inspired" tattoo in Bindi's face and gush about how he was the most important person in the world to her

Meanwhile I'm almost certain that Taylor was just one of those typical kids who watched Animal Planet when it was on, but never showed any vested interest outside of that. Clearly not enough to put an actual effort learning about them

No. 558404


So that's where her skinks name comes from..

No. 558405

watch her bring the skink on a leash to meet her namesake lol

No. 558419

I don't want to live in a world where we can't fight with our cats and let them chew our arms off. Seriously, the cat behavioralists can go blow a dog lover. People like cats because they are feisty and are never tamed by humans.

No. 558423


lmao what kind of comment even is this? no one cares why you prefer cats over dogs or what you think they should be allowed to do

No. 558424


You're literally wrong AND you forgot to sage

No. 558432

Anyone wanna bet that she’ll tweet, “guise! Bindi and her family came to say hi to me and i told them all about my animals and theyre so proud!”

No. 558475


What the fuck are you on about.

I imagine that, should more people listen to cat behaviourists, cats wouldn't have a bad reputation for 'attacking people for no reason'.

People appreciate cats for all sorts of reasons.

How you feel about your cats attacking you (in play or not) is not at all related to Taylor.

Sage for irrelevance.

No. 558485

Looks like Mantis Shrimp get agitated at hands by their tank

No. 558495

>>558216 okay, this is a little off topic, but as a Toys r Us fag who had to make a return of that exact Captain America shield (or at least one very similar) I can say th at the original price of that thing was 400 bucks… buying movie prop look alike things for that much bit she won't even buy dishes for the kittens or proper enclosures for countless fish… this if anything solidifies how horrible their spending habits must be.

No. 558496

they're getting the cats neutered on her ig story.

No. 558504

Why does she do this shit at the weirdest times?

No. 558511

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No. 558512


Right now? 9pm PT? What the hell?

No. 558514

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Lol at this bitch having a manager

No. 558518

Jonny probably just put on some music…

Manager…. pfft. No one should manage this hot mess. Or want to.

No. 558519


She's probably bullshitting but I hope she has a manager lmao

Maybe they'll actually force her to make more consistent videos, since I imagine that's where she'd get the money to actually pay them

No. 558524

Her 'manager' should edit some videos for her, they might come out in a reasonable time.

No. 558527

The paper shows she’s at town and country veterinary hospital so I googled it and it’s open 24 hours.

No. 558541

It also has awful reviews, one says the vet was uneducated and the vet techs are rude and don’t answer questions.

No. 558542

it makes sense that she's been congratulated for her animal care, then.

No. 558544

I go to the same vet. They're open 24/7 and often want you to bring your pet in the evening to stay overnight if they're going to get neutered in the morning

No. 558559

Is that both or just Nemo?

No. 558562

She had both

No. 558590

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On taylors Instagram post about her crab, honesty tyler is almost as full of shit as she is.

No. 558676

I don’t want to derail but Tyler has been keeping up with the thread too because on twitter/instagram he will make sly comments just like her. Only difference is if his lolcow was as savage as Taylor’s I don’t think he’d be able to handle it. Taylor is barely handling any criticism but I feel like Tyler is kind of spineless so he’d be in shambles. I think he’s just trying to mooch off her status “hey look I’m sarcastic too! Sub to me too!”

Taylor is also thriving off of comments like that, the ones that so obviously believe her charade so she keeps making a joke about everything exaggerating what we say so it side tracks from the truth. Like “I do crack” when she really is out here on heroin or “here’s my obviously dead snake!” Yet he’s alive but neglected.

No. 558680

**not confirming she does heroin specifically, I’m just stating that as an example of why she specifically keeps saying crack, I don’t want it to speculated that that is her specific choice of drug, but she clearly doesn’t do crack so I think she’s using that to cover up her actual drug use.

No. 558683

Slightly OT, but the other thread on pettubers attracted a lot of them recently; bitching and crying about the fact they're topics of conversation. Apparently we're all obliged to go to them with suggestions for their care; not expect them to do research before buying an animal. They're /all/ literally as entitled as Taylor; Taylor just happens to have got a thread first because of all the stuff with JC and her apparent drug use.

No. 558684

This was a boomerang, she showed Nemo and Ghost's papers like we've been asking for but conveniently stopped before showing Ghost's breed.

No. 558687

TBF most vets will just write down whatever you tell them for breed. So she could lie to the vets too and say 'ragdoll mix'. It wouldn't mean much.

No. 558688

Lol who is the one posting nonstop some animal related video?
First with the monitor and now with the mantis
We get it! They are really dangerous
I don't need every video there is in YouTube about them
If I want to see them all I can fucking search it.

Is the same manager who make the typo in one of the plushies?
The publicity of her merch gives me cancer everytime
From the fonts to her "interesting facts"!
Who wants and hedgehog with a t-shirt of another hedgehog?

No. 558780

Its multiple people, I posted some but I didn't post them all.

No. 558796

It’s not like there’s only 5 people reading this thread, there’s probably more than we think it is, especially those that just reads so multiple evidence with sources are better than 1, just in case our princess Taytay comes by and say we’re all lying. And plus, if the topic comes up and i come across said topic on youtube or tv, it’s gona remind me how ridiculous Taylor’s decision is and i’m gona share my thoughts. Some people are idiots so you can show a million videos of how large a monitor is or strong a 1 foot mantis shrimp is and they’ll still won’t believe it, especially for Taylor, she thinks she can tame them all and we have videos to prove she’s, in fact, an idiot.

No. 558818

I agree with this. Some serious nitpicking going on in this thread lately lol

No. 559042

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Also regarding ghost’s breed: if he really was adopted, like tay said, how on earth could she possibly know if ghost actually was a “ragdoll mix” lol. There are so many god damn long-haired colorpointed cat breeds. The only reason she knows that ghost is a ragdoll is because that’s what the craigslist idiot told her.
I know we’ve already established that there is no way ghost is a rescue cat but i thought i might as well share.
… btw; you can really see here that the 600 bucks she paid for ghost are actually way too much considering that he barely matches the breed-stand lol.

No. 559052

I honestly don't care what breed Ghost is because at the end of the day, he's from a backyard breeder that sells them for $600 because of how they look. Taylor just impulsively went on Craigslist because she wants to replace her dead kitten and came across a 5 week old kitten like Nemo. If she didn't impulsively bought him and really wanted a ragdoll, she would've researched different registered breeders in her area and buy a $600 purebred kitten. but i guess, "rescuing" kittens with the same age as her other one from craigslist is more exciting for her.

No. 559101

Lmao how much you want to bet her "manager" is just her poor pregnant (recently pregnant?) friend. Or some other friend considering they've been a pretty shitty manager with her terrible upload schedule, typos in videos and merch, and losing subscribers

No. 559114

I'm pretty sure one time she mentioned having the same manager as Tana Mongeau. It was either same manager or same company that manages them.

No. 559120

I follow a couple youtubers (not pet youtubers) who own cats and they all love speculating on the many different breeds their cats resemble lol so this kinda is a good point. If you weren’t sure and you were really invested in your pet, you’d probably spend a bit of time having fun comparing it. To come right out with “he’s a rag doll cross” suggests that she was only thinking “I know it’s a rag doll so everyone else will too, better just say that” instead of realising there’s tons of other cats similar to that.

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Honestly, Ghost looks like he's just a long haired Siamese, which I guess is called Balinese? He has a similar facial structure to this cat. The face is more pointed than rounded like the actual Ragdoll cat's is. Given the monitor situation, I wouldn't be surprised if Taylor purchased what she thought was a purebred Ragdoll, but it's also plausible that Ghost really is some kind of mix, but she calls him a Ragdoll mix to make him sound extra special ad doesn't really know what he is.

No. 559123

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Not sure what happened to my picture. Hopefully it posts ok this time.

No. 559153

To be honest, I don't think she's lying when she says it's a ragdoll mix, regardless of where the cat actually came from. I mean she knows jackshit about cats so the backyard breeder could've told her it was a balinese or birman and she would've believed it.

No. 559312

from what i know siamese cost like $500 and ragdolls cost up to $1200 its definitely possible that this sketchy craigslist byb scammed people into buying a siamese rather than a pure ragdoll so he could get more profit. either way she still bought rather than adopting, condemning a shelter cat bc she selfishly wants to show off a boujee looking cat rather than to take care of an animal

No. 559521

sage a non-backyard breeder Siamese has a wedge head and costs upwards of $800 for pet quality. Ragdolls are not as expensive as CFA Siamese or Himalayans.

No. 559533

I don’t think she bought him because he’s a certain breed. I think she just went on craiglist and typed in “5 week old kitten” because she wanted a replacement for the one that passed away. I bet she was trying to find one that looks like Nemo’s sister to try to fool us

Sage for speculation

No. 559574

Reminder that posting subjects under the age of 16 is forbidden.

No. 559584


No, we already knew the female kitten had died and she had been looking at ragdoll kittens on craigslist before acquiring Nemo and his sister. She caught hell for looking for kittens on craigslist instead of adopting and then like magic, rescued Nemo and his sister. Ghost is what she wanted all along - a bought and paid for ragdoll (or what she thinks is a ragdoll…..or whatever)

No. 559600

She said in a livestream that she has the same manager as Logan Paul

No. 559625

I doubt that (not that she said that, but that she was telling the truth). I fucking hate Logan Paul as well, but there's definitely a huge difference in managing him and managing a barely 1M subscriber YouTuber who stays locked in her Texas apartment

No. 559650

People often think that any cat that has a pointed color is a siamese. I've known many people who sell random mutt cat/s as siamese or ragdolls thinking that they actually are mixed with that. In reality, long hair and pointed colors are pretty common occurrences in mutt cats with no breed mixed in them at all. It's not always due to people willfully setting up scams, some people are genuinely this uninformed and honestly believe their kittens are mixed. It is possible that the cat is a long hair cream moggie with grey points.

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Anyone else kind of grossed out by this considering he actually has a kid that he’s just ignoring?

Alsoyou’d think how much Taylor fawned over Betsy’s baby for the first few days, she’s be all over interjecting herself into his kid’s life.

But that would require more effort and patience than just putting down bowls of food and water in a cage and taking her animals out whenever it’s convinient for her

No. 559728


I would love to see her try to do an actual moon crab care video and get everything completely wrong lmao

Sage for blogging, but I've been looking into wanting to get one of these and when I've been trying to do research online, the general consensus thus far seems to be that there really isn't a lot of info on keeping them since they seem to be pretty new to the exotic pet trade.

So I imagine all of her info is going to be pulled from the articles or the two incomplete sort of care sheets that you can find online.

No. 559739

What the f u c k is she wearing

No. 559752


lol the photo is obviously taken just to show her weird swimsuit/sweater/weirdness.

No. 559771

Oh god, that gave me the thought of Jonny impregnating Taylor… makes me shudder. She is so negligent with her own animals, I can’t even begin to imagine what an awful mother she would make to an actual child.
Also yeah, pretty fucked that Jonny tries so hard to put out the persona like Taylor “my cats are my sons!! I love them more than humans!!” but yet he has an ACTUAL son he acts like doesn’t exist, I mean how much more of a scumbag can you be…
Oh yeah, you could be a rapist. I can’t blame the mom of the kid for not wanting Jonny in the child’s life if that’s the case because he’s a fucking rapist.

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She has such a bad attitude. It makes me laugh to think about when she said Disney wanted to hire her to be an animal educator, she'd be so fucking rude and condescending to anyone who asked a question she deemed idiotic. I bet she didn't even know coral weren't plants until last week.
She's probably just insulted a lot of her fans and doesn't give a shit.

No. 559815

I'm so glad she's seemed to stop her ugly ass nails and instead just shows her ugly hand

No. 559847

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Probably reaching but is it weird that just a week or so ago it was so defensive and now it is getting friendly so fast when she has had it for months. If it is getting friendly so fast after it being so defensive last week shouldn't it have been more friendly months ago? Wonder if the last one did actually die and this is a new one.

No. 559982

Probably getting used to her bothering him 24/7

No. 559992

Wait.. i just realized something. So, her hair is actually just a bundle of tumble weed, and all that hair in her photos and videos is just extensions? Lol wow. She’s like 90% plastic and 10% drugs

No. 560042

I am 99% sure her manager is the same company who sells her merch, Studio 71, if you look at the services the provide channel management is one. https://www.studio71.com/us/services/

No. 560048


Yeah, she could easily afford new extensions that don't look so damn ratty, but then they wouldn't match her actual straw hair. She's got very strange "priorities."

No. 560065

Omfg can we please stop conspiring about how her animals have died and shes replaced them, its so stupid

No. 560076

I agree, nothing points to her replacing her animals, it's 100% speculation based on nothing concrete

No. 560078

we also dont know she hasnt lol cheese def should be a lot bigger

No. 560092

Cheese should be bigger, but many fish will stop growing if their environment isn't large enough, at least I've been told this. I know for a fact that Cheese's tank is half the size that's recommended for longhorn cowfish.

No. 560167

He stop growing because the tank isn't big enough
It is pretty normal at least in fishes to stop growing if they consider they won't fit in their enclosure (all tho it does affect their health)
So this by itself prove his enclosure isn't good enough for him because I think he would be twice his actual size at this point.

No. 560174

Idk if you noticed, but this entire thread has been conspiracies. Taylor is never going to come out and be like "I'm on drugs and killed cheese"

No. 560190

Yeah of course not, I'm just wishing the thread would stick to things that actually have SOME thread of evidence, rather than whatever shitty theory people want to make up about her next

No. 560212

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I hope all these comments stress Taylor out since all she ever does is act like it's all ok.

No. 560240

lol her mom has been posting shit like this all day. Taylor probably does get stressed out but she will never show it because she can never be wrong. Nobody is falling for the "Jonny and I love each other sooooo much!! Nobody understands our love!". She just has to try to hard to act like everything is ok.
Honestly I was thinking about it lately, but I think a huge reason she stays with him is because his standards are outrageously low. "You wanna own 40+ animals and let them crawl all over the carpet and don't care about cleanliness and just wanna be a lazy POS all day and claim it's 'depression'? lol sure go ahead sweetie". As long as whoever Jonny is with is somewhat attractive (honestly though she looks 40 wtf), has money, is young and lets him do drugs/drink he doesn't care. She knows damn well no normal human being would be with someone like her (other than the people attracted to her physically). She has the nastiest personality and just doesn't give a shit about anyone but herself. Who would want that??
Sage for ranting/blogging but as sad as their relationship is, they are almost perfect for each other it's gross. So toxic. If Jonny was out of her life I feel like she'd have a better chance of changing for the better, she needs to learn to be by herself and eventually find someone who will push her to be better.

No. 560242

I wonder if, whenever her mom posts shit like this, it's because Taylor reached out to her to vent about her relationship.

No. 560245

Is her mom still in highschool because wtf. She doesn’t act like a grown woman and tweets like a angry teenage, no wonder Taylor is messed up in the head.

No. 560251

I don't think it's because his standards are low. He actually follows a pattern which is hot, young, and with money. But also emotionally immature for him so he can get away with shit.

Taylor is still in the "not like other girls" phase and is pretty blinded by her internet fame, but whether or not she wants it, those things will fade eventually because YouTube is not a guarantee of permanent success.

And it's kinda obvious that the moment he gets to be alone in tour he'll cheat on her, which will happen when she can't follow him around anymore. Wasn't there a tour in Brazil?

No. 560254

I agree. If they do go on tour at Brazil or anywhere and she’s not with him, he’s probably those type of dudes that are like “i’ma get a Brazilian girl” and boast about it with his band mates that he got laid.

No. 560255

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Enjoy this stupid thing i put way too much effort in.

No. 560256

Great job Anon! I can totally see Taylor ad a crazy reptile hoarder in the next couple of years as she descends the rabbit hole of drugs with a manboy of a bf that doesn’t care what’s going on because he’s cashing out her checks

No. 560282

I know for a fact shes on drugs. Feel free to choose your own truths though, nobody has any real reason to believe me when I say it, but Taylor and I know its a fact, and thats enough for me lol

No. 560300

u wanna share the facts? or just sound annoying and smarmy

No. 560306

Not that anon but kek Weed is a drug and we have video of her with that. Might be legal in some states but it's not in hers. She also drank underage. We have texts of her saying she was taking heroin (that as far as I know she hasn't denied, just ignored). Then there's all the scab picking shit.

idk. I wouldn't mind betting she's tried more than weed once or twice. Idk if she's addict yet.. but we all know she lives like one lol.

No. 560307

She confirmed smokes heroine

No. 560318

besides the texts that she claims are fake, do you have proof of heroin tho? like if you do I'd be glad she's finally caught in her lies, but as far as this board goes there's no hard proof been posted. and tru I totally agree she smokes weed and drinks, but weed and alcohol are not on the same level as heroin. that's something that like until we see heroin in the apartment or something of her clearly being high then it just feels like such uncertainty

No. 560331

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This is what Taylor chooses to have a life with

No. 560332

but jonny is sober!!1!

No. 560340


Jesus CHRIST, everything he posts makes me cringe so hard. I'm so embarrassed. 31 years old people.

No. 560356

God what a passive aggressive little piss ant. Taylor has to know that this is manipulative behavior. He's clearly trying to stir up family drama before her Disney trip/Meet&greet at the panel. Her mom keeps telling us they plan to try and get in contact or at the very least an in-person meet up with Taylor. He might be worried he is losing his grip on Taylor with her posting the recent "leave my mom alone" thing and how eager her mom is to meet up with her daughter.

No. 560368

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She looks so different when she doesn't make herself up

No. 560384


This little twit, who couldn't even tell the difference between a black throat and roughneck monitor because she's an impulsive idiot, has absolutely ZERO right to criticize anyone who isn't a coral expert. Shut up, Taylor.

No. 560392

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Hang on, is she really gonna preach about coral reef conservation when she owns wild caught tropical fish?

No. 560423

It should be in one of the first threads iirc but Taylor’s dad confirmed those texts when she admits to smoking heroin were sent from her number, the ex of Jonny’s who leaked them sent them to her dad when he freaked out and demanded proof, he confirmed on Twitter it was the same number he knew Taylor to have at the time

No. 560427

Semi ot but Jonny was still known to be using within 3 weeks or so before he and Taylor met. No way he quit heroin just like that. Even if she didn’t join him (and she’s easily influenced + according to mama dean said she “wanted this experience”) that still equals him moving in and using within weeks of them knowing each other. Crazy lol

No. 560448

Honestly, who would admit online that they smoke heroine, especially in public? From how her and jonny act, jonny’s drug past, how they’re starting to look, skin picking, and “jokes” about crack, it’s pretty obvious they’re smoking or doing something worse than marijuana. All we can do is just watch her physical appearance change from what they’re doing to themselves, but i think they are doing some sort of drug.

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No. 560485

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Neither of them are clean.
Taylor admitted to trying heroine to her dad but he deleted the tweet later to protect her privacy, I can't find it anymore.
Taylor admitted to smoking heroine with Jonny through texts to Jonny's ex Chelsea when Taylor was whining to her about him.
Saged because it's old.

No. 560489

people who are just smoking weed don't have their looks deteriorate as fast as Taylor's. she's on some hard shit for sure.

No. 560490

The anons who say she isn't doing smack are deluding themselves. I really don't know why we even question it here, it's a fact that she is a junkie.

No. 560491


Most of the time I don't judge addicts much because addiction is complicated and there's a serious genetic component that makes it hard for people predisposed but then you see shit like this and I can't feel bad for or not judge either of them. Taylor had so many warnings and ways out and she still went down this road, and Jonny is just the biggest piece of shit with or without drugs ugh what a gross couple.

No. 560492

Did the girl on the end of the same row Taylor is in make video calling her out? It could’ve been click bait because I didn’t watch it but I remember the title was calling her out.

No. 560496

Weed doesn't deteriorate your looks.

No. 560498

Sorta but not really. It was mostly about her crazy fans.

No. 560499

wait what, her dad has twitter too?

No. 560506


Eh if you’re spending all your time high, you’re not going to maintain your looks as well as before. Weed can definitely deteriorate your looks. It doesn’t make you look like a bloated, scabby crack whore tho

No. 560520

Weed, just like a cigarette, can deteriorate your skin too but SUPER slowly because duh, inhaling any type of smoke is bad for your health in general and can mess up alot of things in/on your body but heavier drugs can fuck you up so quickly. Her past videos vs her current, as well as unedited photos, it’s clear that she’s on some strong drugs. Who ages 20 to 30 in less than a year? She’s starting to look like those crazy blonde crackheads in movies but with a load of pets in her messy apartment. For some reason, whenever she’s with her family, she dresses and looks more normal but when she’s at home or with others, she looks like a mess.

Sage for blogposting

No. 560524

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A girl who had their last video demonetized and has a boyfriend that's out of town

No. 560538

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Taylor tweeted this then immediately deleted it like 30 minutes later.

No. 560543

Probably neutered, he looks about that age now.

No. 560546

I wonder why she deleted it? it's totally fine to take off a cone if the animal is right with you so you can monitor them for disturbing the incision.

No. 560547


Probably because she has literally no idea what's proper animal care or not so she's afraid she'll get hate for it, not even realizing it's fine.

No. 560548

She's worried it'll be overanalyzed and end up here, even though nothing is wrong.

No. 560551


says the woman who lives in a filthy fucking hovel.

No. 560552


this could totally be nothing, but I remember when I got my sister's male cat neutered, they didn't even give him a cone. The vet said male cats usually don't need one. Female cats on the other hand, need one because they tend to mess with their scars more (because their scar is bigger or something). Googled it, vets usually never provide males with cones after being fixed.

so I don't see why he'd be wearing a cone from being neutered… unless Taylor got him one to be on the safe side, or if the vet threw in a useless cone to up the bill (I've been to my fair share of vets and they definitely do that)

No. 560555

I used to work at a vet and we'd give them just to be safe in case the cat started messing with it. But a neuter is much less invasive than a spay, the incision is smaller, and it's less irritating generally.

No. 560561

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Probably because she thought this caption would be more popular

No. 560565

Smoking in general yeah but you can vape or use edibles.

And idk you all have just never been high or what but it's really easy to get fixated on stuff like skincare, makeup, hair while you're high so you actually end up putting in more effort.

No. 560585

i'm still so pissed that nobody will say anything negative about taylor. they all kiss her ass and enable this shit to continue when they have the power to stop it, all because what…some 13 year old fan girls will call them mean names and unsubscribe? for every person unhappy about hearing the truth, there's going to be someone grateful for them telling the truth/doing something to expose her bullshit. i simply don't understand.

No. 560614

Why has she suddenly become so obsessed with corals not being plants? Honestly looks like she's only just found this information out….

No. 560615


I think they're more practical than that. Dark Den's callout video got a positive response, but Swetha lost a large portion of subscribers and her video has way more dislikes than likes. I agree people who defend her are gross, but I can't blame the ones not calling her out.

For some Petubers, this is actually their job, in a more professional way than it is Taylor's. In all likelihood their callout won't hurt Taylor's income as much as it'll hurt theirs, so instead they're just doing the best they can to promote good animal care.

No. 560622

Sage is now explicitly stated to not give an excuse to blog or derail.

No. 560623

Have you ever smoked potty? It absolutely does not have that effect on you or your looks. You have to actively try while smoking weed too look like that, and again as many anons have said I’llsay it again for you, it’s usuly some other substance in addition to weed that gets someone look as rough as she does….

Also to the anon saying it messes with this skin does t know much either. I’ve been smoking everyday for as long as 2006 and I still get compliments on my skin…..

Sage for over explaining the effects of marijuana on the anons who don’t know shit. Back to Taylor and her actual drug usuage (more than pot…)

No. 560737


They've obviously organised this event themselves. They didn't have to invite Taylor. By association they can all get fucked by turning a blind eye and inviting her to this event

No. 560748

I fail to see how discussing a drug Taylor uses is blogging or derailing.

By that definition discussing proper animal care of the animals she owns is also blogging.

No. 560760

(Different anon) you probably take care of yourself though. With Taylor, the only time she takes care of herself if she has to post a video or a photo on instagram and other than that, she’s a mess. From her previous photos of her in the background, her hair is so thin and dry that she’ll probably become bald in a few years from all the hair dying and her face will become all saggy due to all the drugs and surgery, so she has to keep up by getting more surgeries. I’m all analyzing her. Lol. But damn, I’m always mindblown everytime i see her face because she looks like a 30 year old with a mind of a 16 year old that looks at animal care books for it’s pictures

No. 560805

she doesnt do that tho, she just wears makeup every now and then and puts filters on her videos/photos. she'd rather wear buttpads and hair extensions than do a few hip thrusts and putting coconut in her hair to keep it healthy, she doesnt care for herself or her animals

No. 560810

I've been asking my older sister ( Marine Biologist ) about the care of these guys and she said the only reason he'd break the glass by hitting it repeatedly is if she kept putting her fucking hands in its point of view to the point where he feels stressed enough to do so, he also 100% needs more substrate and places to hide out. I don't know what tank he's in but she said its gotta be really deep and ideally have 360 view. I hope she actually does future n makes changes before he gets real stressed enough to punch through the glass/acrylic

No. 560888

Oh man this will be fucking great! All of these drama-drenched attention seekers in one place, half of whom throw mass amounts of shade at one another. I can't wait for the milk to spill.
Some vets will offer a cone regardless due to rate of infection and fucking with stitches goes way down even for males which was already low when a cone is involved. If they didn't use dissolvable stitches, he might fuck with them more too. It just depends on the vet really. Where I worked we never gave out cones because we worked on the cheap.

No. 560889


Who wants to pet Taylor will bring some of her animals and pass them out to everyone without a care? The even is also based outside so thats not going to end well

No. 560919

I feel like she’s more careful now about that kind of thing due to backlash before, but I’m still counting on her not attending at all. A convenient EDS flare up the day before the event is a guarantee.

No. 560926


If by some miracle she does turn up I hope Jonny goes with her and shows her up lol

No. 560940

I read "Who wants to pet Taylor" and was like ewww. An unfortunate typo. I get what you're saying, though. She probably didn't learn her lesson from taking her animals to Vidcon before.

No. 560942

I totally agree that it’s likely she won’t turn up or if she does she will realise she’s in too deep with any questions and will conveniently leave early and blame one of her many so called illnesses. I would love Jonny to turn up though and be the only fool we all know he is.

No. 560950

I feel like you just made a window into the future

No. 560956

She’s gonna make such a fool of herself with the Emzotic/Tyler meet up coming up that she’ll back out of this with a lame excuse! Her fans won’t want anything to do with the rest of the clique group…and Taylor isn’t part of that group. They’ve only invited her to promote themselves!

No. 560962

Wait! Isn’t Jonny’s Brazil tour in August? Perfect excuse!

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