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If you are new, please make sure you read:https://lolcow.farm/info
22 year old "family friendly pet mom" Youtuber, her 32 year old junkie boyfriend Jonny Craig, and her creepy controlling mother.
Previous thread: >>>/pt/669437
The basics:> Taylor is a notorious animal hoarder known for collecting 40+ rare and exotic pets and manhandling/mistreating them for the sake of her Youtube channel which has over 1 million subscribers. Many pets have died in her care, many more have fallen ill due to her neglect or disappeared after "rehoming" them. Fails to give proper enclosures for many of her pets, including overstuffing fish tanks, keeping her kittens locked in the bathroom, and her mouse and hedgehog in the closet.> Jonny Craig was the frontman of the band Slaves and is most well-known for being an outspoken abusive junkie. He has been in and out of rehab centers for a decade now and has been kicked out of multiple bands and off of tours for his behavior. He is usually homeless when he does not have a girlfriend to leech off of.> Several of Jonny's ex-girlfriends have come out with stories of Jonny's physical and sexual abuse, including rape at knife-point. His ex Chelsea confided this in Taylor when she and Jonny first started dating, in which Taylor's response was to laugh with Jonny and make a public spectacle of it.> Taylor loves to throw pity parties for herself and dodge around the real issues when faced with criticism about her husbandry, hoarding, and hypocrisy. She can never keep her stories straight and will tell outright lies only to contradict them hours later. Her fans are sycophants who only encourage her.
Facebook (private:) https://www.facebook.com/Taylor.Nicole.Dean
(currently deactivated as of 6/29)
List of all Taylor's pets:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QNUksDcQk_cqLTkTFTiPjP2pCGBQgORyCesIIqvZ2Zs/edit?pli=1
Requires update of new frog, tarantula, crabs dying and all the fish outside of the 150 “rehomed”
Stats of Taylor’s pets and history:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1e8bakM4GHa2J1y4qwYsB-T0jSpN5uWCI_q0dv-odij4/htmlview#
New Milk:> Taylor deactivates Twitter after announcing she has broken up with Jonny> Posts on multiple platforms that the relationship has ended but begs people not to tell Jonny. Deletes posts very quickly after> Something happens that sends Taylor to the hospital for unknown reasons> Jonny moves out WHILE Taylor is in the hospital, has someone drive him to NY State in a U-Haul truck with his most expensive toys (computer and some shoes and stupid Funko pops) in the back> Jonny swears up and down they are still together and he only left to "take care of his dad for two months"> Mama Dean insists they have broken up, confirms Taylor is in rehab for heroin addiction (surprise surprise she's been using all along), brags about how invincible her neck is in response to Jonny's pathetic vague threats> Jonny receives calls from Taylor while she is in rehab. She acts as though they're totally fine, and she will visit in NY as soon as she gets out> Taylor is telling everyone a different story depending on what they want to hear> Mama Dean spergs out when she realizes she's possibly being lied to, says she won't say anything else on the matter, yet continues to be passive-aggressive on Twitter> Jonny is already talking to new girls, receiving gift packages from other women, is definitely not sober in NY> Posts photos of his father's gun (he legally cannot own one bc of his restraining order from Chelsea) and pathetic attempts to threaten people> Mama Dean feels her neck is no longer protected and fears for her life (kek)> Taylor stops calling Jonny and he throws a pity party for himself, taking a page out of her book by scheduling streams yet never following through> TND leaves rehab early, reactivates Twitter, immediately starts blaming Jonny for EVERYTHING and takes 0 responsibility for her own mistakes> Has already moved out of the atrium house (as if no one saw that coming)> Claims that blatant lies she has tweeted in the past were really Jonny using her Twitter account. Will unblock people he made her block, but anyone who made her "feel negatively" will remain blocked> Has begun process of filing a protective order against Jonny for herself> Claims Jonny tried to get her to sign an NDA but she refused. Says it took her "like 10 tries" to leave him> Confirms that texts between her and Chelsea in Dec 2017 are real, but quickly deletes confirmation tweet> At this point Jonny is maintaining that he'll leave quietly and peacefully if she really wants him to> Twitter meltdown + mutual shitslinging is eagerly awaiting by all
> Recent Known additions to the horde of animals: Tarantula, frog> Recent Known Deaths: Moon crab (Ursula)> Recent Known “Rehomed”: Satanic Leaf geckos, all fishtanks not including the 150 gal, other moon crab (Triton)
Videos which sum up the drug addiction situation: https://youtu.be/IczGyFh0LBghttps://youtu.be/9tblAt5NX9w
Old Milk:> Posted an Instagram story with needles visible in the background> Continues to make stories on Instagram where track marks can be seen on her arms > Claims she is totally sober from drugs but alcohol doesn’t count and her rehab coaches are completely fine with her using alcohol > Released a video on how she moved Mushu to the new house, with an insane amount of misinformation, demonstrating her complete lack of knowledge about the nitrogen cycle, but at least FINALLY has a chiller for her tank> Taylor has been sharing photos with alleged self harm scars> Jonny is now in New York for a couple months, still love bombing Taylor on social media > TND and Jonny seem to be on some type of ‘break’ without calling it that and Jonny is in deep denial> TND has mentioned possibly ‘rehoming’ more animals and moving home with her parents> TND has been alleging that her substance abuse and codependency issues are because of her father not being around as a kid> Jonny seems convinced he’s going to become a successful twitch streamer despite barely knowing how to play games> Jenn vague-posting abuse abusive and manipulative relationships whenever Taylor alludes to her relationship status> Taylor has been seemingly intentionally vague about whether she’s actually dumping Jonny or not
Unconfirmed Milk:> Getting evicted from the new house> TND is trying to break up with Jonny to complete her “redemption” to youtube
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General Pettuber Thread:>>>/snow/730730
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I knew she was monkey branching, she is so codependent she could leave Jonny without a guy lined up
I give her a month to start displaying public affection on Twitter
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I give her around a month too. 3 weeks.
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The Halsey tattoo for reference
First, sage ur shit
Second, we’ve literally gotten a ton of evidence she was in rehab. Find somewhere else to hatefag and stop shutting up the thread.
Yes Taylor is a cow and she’s definitely going to fuck up again at some point with her shit animal care but I think she has plenty to blame Jonny for. I mean fuck he literally tried to force a needle into one of his exes so it’s safe to say he had a hand in her getting addicted.
there's no reason to believe she wasn't in rehab, especially because her mother spoke about going in to visit her, etc. Rehab is not a magic personality-cure-all, of course she's still going to be her shitty self when she gets out, but that doesn't mean she hasn't learned anything from being there. She is a self-obsessed liar and has been since before she met Jonny, 25 days in rehab won't change that, but it will give her a good start on recovery from addiction.
also sage your tinfoil
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omg imagine if Jonny came here
to spill the milk on Taylor. that would be fucking glorious, and be an extra dig at her. anyway just report and ignore this weenie
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Fucking lol @ the victim
mentality. Guaranteed he's going to throw himself a pity party for a couple weeks and then come back with a "fuck Taylor she's a bitch lmaooo"
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Taylor just posted this to her insta, she is getting another tattoo already. She is currently living in Austin, Texas based on where the tattoo shop is.
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Jesus Christ. Can you guys stop?
The old thread was filled with anti Jonny comments and support for Taylor. Now she's back and officially giving us all the milk we wanted and the immediate reaction here is to tear her to shreds?
She's not even 24 hours back on twitter and every second comment here makes fun of her addiction, her recovery, her leaving Jonny, her rash or her tattoo.
I don't like Taylor either and I know she's a massive cow cause I read every single thread, but she's back now and tries to make steps forwards. Who knows if she actually makes it, gets back with Jonny or buys another 10 pets next week.
For now she's trying and obviously very vulnerable, so why kick her when she's already laying on the ground.
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gEt YoUr OwN vErSiOn
Her "by myself" tattoo is such fucking bullshit. She can't be alone. She should have realized that shit on her own, another junkie shouldn't have been the push she needed to wake up. I hope her dumb ass stays single and that she doesn't date another addict.>>674172
Jen isn't exactly a reliable source for the most part but why would she go along with the rehab lie? I'm sure she'd want Taylor to be in rehab and despite being crazy, I don't even think she's that crazy. The tinfoil is a bit retarded.
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They're so fucking cringy
and she had the balls to complain about Jonny possibly talking to another girl? he’s a piece of shit and deserves all of this but Taylor led him on and then went MIA, dumped him by going public with it on Twitter without actually telling him directly and confirmed (also publicly) that another guy was the one who “gave her the strength” to leave evil, horrible, abusive
Jonny, who totally manipulated her into lying to and about everyone, none of it was poor Taylor’s fault, no not at all! she’s such a shitty person
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Those are some mediocre song lyrics>>674176
Isn't Austin a really tough place to be sober along the same lines as Portland? A lot of subculture types there whose social outings are centered around booze or drugs>>674195>OC DON'T steal
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She's so annoying god. Just let it fucking go.
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LMAO she changed her caption on this but kept it up
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She’s back to deleting tweets right after she posts them
Yea Austin is a druggie shithole. She's just gonna live it up clubbing and drinking like everyone else her age. Lotta california party types.
At least her tattoo looks decent, still impulsively bought, and its just stupid when you know the whole story.
Her croc tat is a straight rip off though, shes such a narcissistic hypocrite.
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She's such a liar. Her tattoo artist Logan blackthorn copied this.
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about the rehab guy who saved her life
literally both on the arm, same open jaw, flowers positioned behind the head, it's obvious it was copied. Google results don't match that closely at all even though it IS a theme. Although I doubt she knew about it.>>674240
Because a bunch of ex-druggies hanging out is a good idea. FFS she's been clean less than 30 days, how long till she hooks up with one of her friend?
She’s seriously arguing with people on Twitter about her tattoo? How about don’t copy the fucking font like she asked or even better, don’t get it because it’s a shitty tattoo anyways. I do get where she’s coming from, but this is the same behavior pre-rehab. Not saying she relapsed, just saying she hasn’t changed one bit. >>674225
She’s so childish. Seriously, just delete the pic and move on with your life. You don’t have to prove anything to us, we’ve known all along what a POS abuser he is. You were the only clueless one.
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She also deleted this one
She acts like this was years ago and shes changed, she was with him alittle over a month ago.
Straight up constant lies for over a year and now she thinks this gives her a free pass? fuck no. Her animals were straight up abandoned because she was so fucked up on dope. They would've died if she didn't have the support she had, she acts all independent but she forces mommy and daddy to bail her out when SHTF.
there are so many manipulative things in this block of text.
how can anyone be so insanely obvious?
I agree tat is well executed. If you tried to put it on opposite side it might bend with her arm, easier to tattoo as well. This artist is much better and execution much crisper overall. The subject is stupid and it obviously wasn't planned but it looks good considering.>>674258
I'm thinking these are different friends, she said they'd "come up to this town (Austin)" I'm guessing from San Antonio.>>674240
There she goes again poking fun at drugs… Im not saying she's gonna get back on the H but it seems likly that she isn't gonna stop partying and "having fun". Austin is a rich kid city, cocaine is rampant and Taylor is rich.
Even though i knew they were real, it's even more disgusting having an actual confirmation from her about those texts and the fact she deleted that tweet saying it too. She really let Jonny stay and bought
him animals after he threatened to hurt/kill the ones she already had, knew that he was texting at least one minor, knew that he was a rapist..Not that it matters to her or legion of blind fans but she'll never get my sympathy with that in mind. toxic relationship addictive personality
will never excuse that.
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She literally started it by saying “don’t copy” a million times now she’s going around acting like everyone confirmed they’re getting it. No one wants your shitty tattoo, Taylor.
This must be some defense mechanism.
She willingly let this dude put his disease-ridden-carrot inside her and fuck her life.
She got fucked hard, addicted to heroin, lost lucrative YT career, lost thousands of fans, killed off animals, alienated her only friends. She paid a heavy price for the experience and it looks like she hasn't changed.
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Lmaooo exactly, I knew this would happen. He plays the nice guy, says he still loves her no matter what, but then exposes his true colors.
Honestly I love how he thanks this random girl for sending him stuff, and then it just turns into “what girl?? Who?? What package??” Like lmao. Jonny is so fucking pathetic it’s hilarious to watch him slowly meltdown.
Fuck i can barely read this.
Nobody is really surprised, just spill the milk on Taylor and all will be forgiven. No doubt he's gonna call her a crazy ex soon. I don't think we've heard the last from him.
I don't doubt it can and does happen in other circumstances but I doubt Taylor here, or at least I doubt the sweeping statement where she implies they've been there all along at least. If a rescue really moved in it's because Taylor's parents called them in while Taylor was away because they couldn't cope OR because Taylor called them in like, yesterday when she got out. It's not like Taylor has the network since she shits on these places, and she wasn't making a whole lot of calls from inside rehab while there. Jen says she was the animal carer here 13 days ago >>670599
incidentally just before Taylor told Jen she was still with Jonny. Maybe Jen forced the issue after that and called someone in to assist. I still doubt someone's living there housesitting unless it's maybe Betsey - that's probably to deter Jonny from attempting to turn up and to make her sound like a better pet owner than she is ~ like usual.
oooo thank you for the insight, hopefully Mama Dean is putting her foot down and it's like you say. I hope those rats get surrendered. you KNOW she wasn't taking them out for at least an hour every day on top of everything else she had to do for her daughter.>>674306
If you read between the lines, he's not denying there being another girl. he's asking for proof. "I have literally no one" is just a manipulation tactic, both to Taylor to return, and on the new girl to "prove" her loyalty
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Chelsea’s moms take on Taylor apologizing. This is in response to Chelsea liking a tweet someone made about not forgetting about JC’s victims for years while lavishing love on Taylor.
Taylor and Jen can join this bitter conga line now kek.
Anyway Taylor's big on promising apologies that never come, see South Texas Dragons.
As if Taylor is capable of having an adult conversation with anyone. When pigs fly is when Taylor would admit that she was wrong and they were right.
Taylor has both behavioral and psychological issues that she needs to sort out. I just always find myself being on the fence of calling her a victim
. On the one hand, she did fall victim
to Jonny Craig. Then on the other hand, she was warned from the very beginning not only by her parents, his exes and even some of her fans. She was barely with him for two months and she was already doing fucking heroin (and that might not even be the first time either). At what point do you become a willing participant? Her narcissism has gotten the best of her. She was a cow then and she continues to be one now. JC was part of the problem but I don’t think some of you realize how problematic
she is all her own. Yesterday and today on Twitter is the perfect example of her being problematic
without Jonny in the picture.
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i love this lmao
“I got so much therapy one day i just stopped calling”
aka i met a well off and actual good looking junkie who made me realise i can do wat better that this crusty manlet
i fucking called it. she literally can't help blasting it all on social media. we now know tbe city she's staying in and her living situation, only a few hours after she promised to never talk about neither.>>674170
Jonny is a POS and none of this is genuine but it's kind of a good point. she never said to his face they're breaking up, and her story about why she stopped calling changes every hour. from getting therapy, to jonny cheating, to meeting a new guy. compare >>674147
I'm pretty puzzled why she even brought it up. It's not like it's the first time during their relationship that JC has talked to other women and possibly even cheated. I also don't believe he was actually hooking up with anyone, in the disgusting state he is right now and living with his ddad. Sure he was talking to girls, but he's always talking to girls.
Not to mention that the reason she stopped calling was that SHE was talking to another guy. It had nothing to do with JC cheating, because she's always tolerated that.
Ya'll are reaching so hard with this guy. Taylor legit just fucking had a conversation with someone and now she's "in love with him" in your words. Christ the milk is flowing yet you want to blow shit out of proportion. We all know she tried to break it off with JC before she went into rehab. That's why he moved and why she said ending relationships were hard. She likely just said whatever he wanted to hear so she could catch a break. Anyone who has been with someone abusive
does it so the abuser just shuts up and gets off their back. JC probably then tried to rope her back in all while crying online about how much he loves his bubble, she's his queen and whatever other bullshit he sprouted. We all knew they were breaking up and Taylor was in rehab without social media to defend it. So of course JC is gonna try and act like they're still together to control the situation. She probably considered going back to him too. Then in rehab, why is it so surprising that she got some sense knocked into her? We all said it would happen. Now apparently it's unbelievable lmao. Honestly who cares for what reason she broke it off. She finally did and even hit him with a protective order. He tried to get her to sign a NDA. He's acting like a bitch because he knows he got fucked and if he lays it on thick enough, he becomes the victim
and not her. Some of you are already falling for it lol.
Also I don't think it was because JC was talking to girls. That was just an add on. Like in addition to all the other shit, he's also trying to find his next meal ticket and Taylor is garbage, but let her trash him all she wants. He deserves it and I can't wait until he finally stops the act and his true colours show. It will be interesting to see how this all plays out now that Taylor has made it clear she's done with him and has been since what? 2017?
No-one thinks Jonny's a victim
, turnip. We just happen to notice Taylor's being messy.
Honestly the way she talks about the entire situation it seems that abuse is the secondary thing. The fact that she found someone to replace him (at least for a bit) and that he is talking to someone is all it took and she’s so angry and bitter about it that she is now blaming everything on him and trash talking him on Twitter (which I guess is fine until you realise that we don’t know if she does have any protective order against him or that he’s just a shit person).
Some anons here seem to be looking at one thing - Jonny is bad and Taylor is better and he’s at fault for all the shit Taylor has done. But you know, when you have your parents (even if they’re shit) reaching out from day 1, other people telling you to stay away and his past girlfriends telling you the same and you stay and shit talk them then you were a willing participant in an ‘experience’. She wasn’t naive to the point she lost all her intelligence, she wasn’t thinking and she still isn’t.
A part of me hopes that Jen is going to call her therapist or whoever and tell them to set her daughter straight but Jen is an enabler and Taylor is a narc.
yeah, I think her behaviour on twitter since she's back makes it clear that she's a manipulator, liar and an attention whore regardless of who she's in a relationship with. at least she's not a rapist, I guess, which makes her better than JC, but JC was absolutely not the one that made taylor a cow.
she should be kept away from social media tbh, having this following really brings out the worst in her.
she was shitty before she started using heroin. that's been the point. she has abused and neglected her animals forever, heroin just made it worse
also saying that reading lolcow means you're as bad as every rapist and murderer is a bad take
She has literally stated herself she's still got a long way to go and she's not completely fixed yet.
I agree with the person above, some of you draw conclusions that are so far fetched and pick apart things that are so stupid that use really don't take into consideration the psychology and effects that addiction and being in an abusive
relationship can have on people.
Keep in mind she smoked pot, did cocaine and probably other things before getting into heroin.
She's done shitty things and has been an extremely shit person, but some of y'all will continue to hang shit over her even when she does do better. She could rehome all her animals and stay in clinic and some here will still throw a fucking fit over it not being good enough and find anything they can just to shit on her for the sheer joy and fun of it.
>>674382>She has literally stated herself she's still got a long way to go and she's not completely fixed yet.
She's literally acting like she has already done it all and is magically fixed. She came back on social media seemingly a bit manic (not the right word of course but a few people here said the same) and straight up started blaming someone else for her addiction not once taking responsibility for anything. We aren't going to magically stan or praise someone for getting the help when they're not even recognising the role they had to play in needing that help, and god her poor animals have probably been alone for most of the time too.
People here are upset because she hasn't changed for shit yet some of you are going through the normal cycle of 'oh she's better' before she fucks up again like it is always the case with these threads.
>>674387>people here are upset she hasn’t changed her shit
load of fucking bullshit. i love that you’re pretending the people equating taylor’s stupid tweets with being on the same moral level as jonny craig, known and established rapist, have literally any fucking ground to stand on. the critical responses to her tweets are few and far between and the sperging about how OMG THIS ISN’T GOOD ENOUGH is a thousand times more abundant.
don’t kid yourself.
Woah calm down!
Did she not mention some have been rehomed and others are looking after them? I don't think anyone here has downplayed the neglect of her animals? It's just that some people's speculation and sperging goes beyond logic, much like this autistic comment. Your dumb illogic hatred for the word "Yall" is almost as dumb as your extreme hatred for anything and everything Taylor does good or bad.
Maybe be happy it's not her looking after the animals right now since she's so neglectful and shit at what she does.
>>674382>some here will find anything they can just to shit on her for the sheer joy and fun of it.
are you lost? this is what this website is for - to lol at cows. people aren't here to give her asspats when she slightly improves, if you want to do that, go to twitter, who knows you might even get a rt from her.
>it's all because she's on drugs guise!!1
You seem very keen to excuse her behavior. and say all the shitty things she's ever done are because of drugs. Seems a bit hypocritical to not argue the same for JC as well, if drugs really do make you completely helpless and unable to not be a horrible person.
>I agree with the person above
just admit you're samefagging.
They should be able to see all the way through it. Whatever thing is obvious to you, it'll be more obvious to a therapist. Depending on what school of psychology the therapist is subscribed to and that they're interested in treating aside from addiction, they may or may not be willing to treat a personality disorder. There's a bunch of shit some therapists simply aren't trained to address and some shit they don't believe can even be fixed.
Not admitting accountability basically says you're not going to make progress yet psychologically so… It's gonna be relapse loops.
Everything that's gone wrong up to this point has been HER FAULT.
I'm wondering if therapists are just telling her what she wants to hear so she'll quit using. Pretty sure addiction counseling is all about taking responsibility and CHOOSING to stay sober. She makes it seem like she's not in control of her actions.
> It's not my fault!111! It was my genetics the whole time1!!1! Addiction only Affects 15% of the population!1!11 Genetics is my excuse for evertthingggg!
She chose jonny for months and knew what kind of creature he was going into it. Literally everyone saw the writing on the wall, she just chose to ignore it because "experience".
All this social media whoring is just faux self esteem, deep down she's insecure as hell and still needs someone else to function. Don't save her she don't wanna be saved.
This this this. For a second I thought oh she finally broke up with him, maybe the milk will stop flowing soon. But then I remembered, that's not even the reason why she is posted here. Her own tweets are enough because she traps herself in her own lies. She does everything to herself. Everything is her own fault. Even getting with Jonny in the first place. I'm so here for seeing how this all plays out now. This isn't even the end, it's the beginning of a whole new mess.
The fact that all parties are fine with blasting 100% of their personal bullshit on social media, just lol.
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She stated she plans on reaching out to Chelsea to apologize.
Your thinking about AA 12 step program. More than likely they just locked her in a room, took away her phone, let her detox and gave her some therapy. She's probably feeling better now (drug toxicity and jonny not there) and is getting bored so she's leaving early. She probably wants to go "have fun like a normal person" with other people now that jonny is gone.
Austin is a party town and now Taylor has people to party with. Her animals are gonna be on the backburner while she fucks off and finds a new BF.
'make amends' is one of the steps, definitely. can't recall which number lol but yeah. so far all i see is that taylor has a new guy lined up and that she's blaming the shitty texts on jonny.
which is nothing new for taylor and can the sudden influx of stans and/or mommy please leave.
If she's living in a halfway house type situation then she can't have dropped out, right?
That said, she's nowhere near the point she needs to get to in order to avoid relapse. She doesn't seem any different than when she left.
I'm sure he didn't post EVERYTHING, but
(sageing myself for blogposting) but in my experience with an abusive
BF, whenever we were together he would always have one eye on my phone and at times text back as me, with me right there, too scared to do anything about it because he would freak out if I defended myself. This included making FB statuses.
If JC and Taylor were together all the time, this may not be too too far from the truth.
Yeah…the way she is going about it too.
"He had access to my account lmao"
Girl, being in a long-term abusive
relationship really isn't something you "lmao" 25 days after it's over.
If she wants to broadcast her life the least she can do is have a mini PSA to all of her young impressionable followers that you CAN leave an abusive
relationship. Hell, even if she did that she's still the one in the center of focus.
Oh wait, by doing that she'd be acknowledging she's not the only victim
here. So it'll continue to be about her tattoos…"lmao"
Heroin is highly addictive and will knock you out for hours, anyone over the age of 10 knows that. She had a horde of 30+ animals that were her responsibility when she started using and she did it anyway.
If she lived alone and didn't have to care about anyone but herself then I wouldn't give a fuck about her using, but if she willingly incapacitates herself while she has a collection of sensitive, demanding animals that require constant attention and special care, then she's a scumbag. Simple as that.
Heroin is morally wrong, the drug trad exploits thousands of workers under threat of death and violence. They litterally use child laborers. By doing heroin and other drugs your literally supporting the suffering of other people and funding assholes.
Your free to do what you like but you can't claim that it isn't morally wrong.
Same fag. Just also wanted to add that I am curious if this protective order will even stick. She probably just has temp protective order until it goes through court. She's going to play the victim
and claim he got her on drugs instead of taking any fucking accountability in her life.
He did get her on heroin.
Even if she already did drugs, being addicted to heroin is far more dangerous than smoking weed and doing cocaine.
He got her hooked on it and didn't want her to get sober, she said he didn't want her to go to rehab.
A restraining order is necessary.
If he has the money I'm sure he's flying back to SA to get into their house. He also came back to Chelsea over and over again.
As soon as his "queen bubble" become his next "psycho ex" Taylor's gonna have a hard time if she can't keep him away from her.
She probably wanted to try it tbh. She was probably trying pills, coke and all sorts of shit while she was with him. She probably got in over her head and realized it was making her sick, not after she had her fun tho.>>674487
She 100% made the situation worse by ghosting him. Now he's gonna do everything he can to make her life hell. Sometimes you gotta do it, but it seems like she did this to deliberately piss him off and gain pity points.
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She's the only person I know who got a tattoo of an ex AFTER they broke up. Just shows how much of a hold he still has on her.
Now I understand how some really good tattoo artist would ask their walk-ins if they just broken up or something happened before starting on their tattoos.
Nothing like having a tattoo right in front of your face whenever you look at the mirror to remind you of your ex-boyfriend.
I think it has more to do with her overall feeling completely broken and the need to change instead of it being solely about an abusive
relationship. I think
she wants it to remind her of a shitty time in her life and the need to avoid ever feeling like that again.
The last "all my pets" video of Taylor's animals was posted SEVEN MONTHS ago, and it wasn't even posted by her. It was by that Emma girl. AND in that video there were a few animals obviously missing that were "on a different SD card" but were later confirmed dead/"rehomed"/"returned"
it's genuinely ridiculous. The people who only follow her on YouTube have no idea what's going on with her or her animals, and several animals have died or been rehomed since that video was uploaded. what's the point of calling yourself a PetTuber if we see the animal once when she buys it, and then they disappear never to be seen again? Just call yourself a "pet haul" channel, that's all you do. buy them, show them off once, and stuff them into a sub-par enclosure.
The last "all my pets" video of Taylor's animals was posted SEVEN MONTHS ago, and it wasn't even posted by her. It was by that Emma girl. AND in that video there were a few animals obviously missing that were "on a different SD card" but were later confirmed dead/"rehomed"/"returned"
it's genuinely ridiculous. The people who only follow her on YouTube have no idea what's going on with her or her animals, and several animals have died or been rehomed since that video was uploaded. what's the point of calling yourself a PetTuber if we see the animal once when she buys it, and then they disappear never to be seen again? Just call yourself a "pet haul" channel, that's all you do. buy them, show them off once, and stuff them into a sub-par enclosure.
People defend her because there were several points we ragged on her for.
>getting clean >dumping JC>rehoming pets
She has done at least part of all 3 and people still sling shit. I agree she’s a band person, but some people go a little too far with their tinfoil silliness.
>>674520>people still sling shit
again, check what website you're on. as long as there's any dumb shit she does at all, people will discuss it here.
believe me, there are many people on sm giving her asspats right now for slightly improving, idk why you're so offended that not everybody is congratulating her on her mediocre try at getting clean.
There are more people complaining about stans than stans at this point. Just as an aside, a-logging is against the rules, derailing to argue with another poster because you don't think they hate the cow enough is against the rules, but rooting for a cow is not. You don't actually have to start an argument every time a poster has a difference in opinion from you.
Remember we're here to have fun anons, if being here just makes you mad maybe reconsider how you spend your time because you're ruining everyone elses good time.
To be fair, she started on here as a shit animal hoarder without JC, and she's still a shit animal hoarder. She's constantly lying, and her current tweets prove that even more.
Yeah she's dumped JC but don't expect those of us here that have been watching this dumpster fire for a long time to be singing her praises.
She was terrible before JC and she'll be terrible after…
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I just went back to check too, and you're right, the first thread started when Jonny went to "help her move in" to the apartment. The first posts are her defending her choices to date him. sage for ancient screenshots but I just… laughed when I saw this. girl, you knew what was wrong with him before you even met him in person.
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Lmaooo pulling a tana
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This is honestly so petty she’s literally asking him to explode on her, spill the milk and probably stalk her down like a mad man.
This is borderline the shit she used to do when he went on tours with her tweets dissing him and saying how she feels alone. I think she’s still ‘in love’ with him Simply because of petty shit like this. Like girl, this dude is a known abuser and one of his exes literally said he would stalk you - what in the fuck are you actually doing?
And don’t come at me with that protective order stuff because as far as we know that may not even exist.
Jonny with the kitten he threatened to flush down the toilet. Wonder if that was also true?
…Makes me wonder what happened to the female kitten too…
Yeah this just screams childish and immature. Everyone claiming that the abuse was secondary in her decision to break it off seems to have it correct. He was so abusive
and controlling, but you feel fine actively going through your photos together and changing the captions to be mocking and petty? What's her goal here? Just fucking delete the shit and move on. She can absolutely talk about it if she wants but let it be in a healthy way. If she needs to talk through her feelings about it, whatever, but this is in no way productive to her "healing."
You're right. I think she wants him to fight for her, even if she doesn't plan
on taking him back (not saying he wouldn't be able to force his way in, he's got a lot of practice.) It goes back for her need for male attention to feel good about herself. If he just said "fuck it, fine then, bye forever" she would be left standing there, yelling "but wait!!! come back here! I thought you loved
leaving her alone without any response would probably fuck with her head more than anything else he could do at this point
They say hate isn't far from love…
I don't think she's come to terms with being alone. She's realizing shes wasted all that time sucking a washed up junkie's carrot. Now shes bitter because she couldn't satisfy her savior complex by turning him around.
Shes trying to provoke a reaction and make him jealous/hurt/angry. Deep down she's hurt and angry cause he took everything from her.
Money, looks, Reputation, YT career, future opportunities, years off her life, new bad habits, pet deaths.
Biggest probably being career opportunities, she could have easily launched her own brand or work with big $$ pet industry people. She could've been so much more than a pet-tuber with her fame, now it seems unlikely her reputation will always be tainted.
I don't think she's finished with drugs either, I think it's going to be a life long struggle.
she has NO self-discipline (evidenced by the hundreds of times she has promised a video upload yet never even bothered filming it) so I would believe she will relapse quickly and easily. Especially if she keeps Jonny out of her life, she'll probably think "oh well without him I can control it! It's so much less dangerous now that he's not around, I can use it in comfort and safety so there's no problem, just a little
i almost agree with you entirely, but to some extent, its kind of her fault for coming back onto social media if shes actually this fragile.
she also is kind of doing a holier-than-thou sort of thing with jonny currently, but its not like she was EVER the innocent one in their crazy, fucked up relationship.
she did make fun of jonnys exes, who went through the same shit. she did choose to run away with him, to do heroin. she chose this route of destruction for herself, and only after it hit a very, very shitty point where she was was probably being directly hurt by jonny in some form did she turn around and decide to change her life and get a fucking grip.
she's a victim
to him for sure, but shes also a self-made lying narc victim
who uses these sorts of incidents to make herself seem like a little angel
The word your looking for is martyr.
You'd think she'd be humbled after being so sick but as soon she starts feeling better she becomes an ungrateful bitch again. She's extremely lucky to have the support system she has.
Can't believe she has the nerve to claim innocence and victimhood when she was strung out for days, when she should have been looking after her animals.
I honestly feel like she should publicly apologize to every single person she threw under the bus during this whole mess, like Bree and Jonny's exes. Her parents also owe Chelsea an apology for calling her a liar.
I feel like that would be taking steps into the right direction instead of changing the captions of her pictures with Jonny with snarky shit. She really needs to own up to her lies.
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what the hell is jen on about, I honestly can't decipher half her tweets today.
on another note, interesting that taylor hasn't been online today after the absolute avalanche of posts we got yesterday.
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nvm, here she goes
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potential replacement of the manlet?
Does she have a thing for older guys?
Could be jealousy thing too. He does look quite a bit older but it's hard to tell with some people. Sounds like she's introducing him to her fans, they may be "dating" but aren't public about. That might just be tinfoil though.
She looks rough.
Probably her self created daddy issues. And would not be surprised if he is her chosen rebound I honestly.she isn't gonna stay "by herself" for long. So can definitely see her secretly dating him already and is using him now to piss of Jonny.
Maybe it's to garner attention from the people she's around right now.
That’s just another junkie right there. Rehab romance that will lead to another controlling, abusive
, heroin filled relationship.
>>674569>but what do you mean by took everything from her?
She is placing the blame for her addiction fully on Johnny. Becoming an addict is like developing a chronic disease in that she will have to manage it continuously, it will alter the course of her life (possibly for the better but most likely for the worse), and will put hard limits on what she can and can't do if she wants to remain sober.
She may be in the process of coming to terms with the fact that she's now stuck with a condition that will remain with her for the rest of her life and lashing out at Johnny because she's unwilling or unable to accept her part in creating the situation. It's pretty normal for people to get very angry when they've been diagnosed with a chronic condition but the way Taylor's acting makes it clear that she's going to relapse at least once before she's able to manage her emotions in a healthy way, if she's even capable of doing so.>>674596
Can you elaborate on why that's bad news?
I don't think jonny physically did anything to her more like vague threats and manipulation kinda shit.>>674585
She must have hair loss or something, she's been hiding it under a wigs for months. maby she has an oily scalp and is suffering patchyness or something, eyebrows look kinda thin too but hard to tell. She's gone to great lengths to hide it.
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“All she has to do is say the words and I’ll walk away”
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those hickeys tho… weren't present yesterday when she was showing off the tattoo >>674506
guess who's been hooking up with her rehab friend.
It's so obvious she's trying to show off the hickeys so people can connect them to her "cute friend"
. She's insufferable.
Looks like palpatine with those eyebags. Hair just as greasy too, does she ever shower?
Wth is this highschool? She's such an immature clown at this point. At least she's putting on a good show.
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These look like track marks. Not hickeys. They are too small.
Also a "sober living" that allows pets? She's lying again.
This guy is like, the quintessential AA/NA Kyle. She probably met this dude when they let her out to go to a meeting.
I love how she went from "I was getting so much therapy I just decided to stop calling Jonny" to "My friend showed me what it feels like to have someone care about you and I just stopped calling Jonny".
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"Haha, here's my totally cute friend that I didn't have sex with. Jonny really is trash. Here's my hickeys. Do you like my tattoos?
Also.. I'm totally unsafe."
From manic, and baiting, to victim
She… literally JUST claimed in >>674193
that the animals would not be moved for "awhile." Apparently awhile is like 2 days. She's changed so much, guys! She's sober and not lying anymore! /s
Definitely not. The markings by the tattoo look completely different than the ones directly on her neck and under her jawline
where the artist definitely wouldn't have been resting their arm. Plus hickeys look completely
different than normal bruises. Top that off with calling her friend cute, posting pics of him, talking about how she realized Jonny was a fuckhead only after the guy made her laugh. And he's clearly older than her..She's playing her fans like a fiddle
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that would surprise me too but the hicky or trackmark thing did make me notice that he has a juicy vein in his elbow but none in his arms and especially on top of his hand. I normally wouldn't think anything of this but given she said she met him in rehab that would lead me to believe he's also an iv addict…oh and the fact that rehab tends to divide people into cliques of what they use and/or how. Obvious tinfoiling here with him.
BUT I still think she is on that first rehab "pink cloud" where you can't imagine wanting your old life back. Sadly the feeling does not last and real life comes back to hit you soon enough and now your sober so you realize what you've done (to yourself/others).
From what she's saying she isn't doing much to protect her future (already has a new place who knows how long she'll be in sober living (most recommend several months to a yr), and she has already probably told people where she's living. Assuming she's staying where she got her tattoo. This just goes to show that you can get sober but if you don't work on actively changing (and that can be a hard concept to live and even understand) what made you resort to abusing drugs to cope to begin with you won't get far. as in fall into the same old mistakes.
thing is, she doesn't "have fun" with guys, she shacks up with deadbeat drug addicts and then does her weird victim
stunts for years on end. clownery.
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can she go a day without stirring shit up? shes really gettig a kick out of SM right now.
Which is another thing- who the fuck says this? All her fans are young teenagers and she's out here complaining about her sex life. Chill the fuck out dude. I'm not a prude at all but she's acting pretty dodgy for a girl who just got out of such a terrifying, abusive
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her oversharing is starting to be cringy now
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>just having fun guys
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Literally that's your audience you dumbfuck. Who do you think keeps defending your stupid ass decisions?
You even had "family-friendly pet mom" in your bio. Jesus Christ how insufferable.
what a vain cunt. I hope he uses her up for what she's worth and takes her money.>>674692
Thought you were Taylor for a second.
> It wasn't an impulsive purchase, it was an unplanned purchase, they're not the same
>>674604>I don't know what to do except continue to do what I have been doing>(heroin)>>674634
the therapy was being fucked by someone other than Jonny>>674637
this is so sad. I hate how we sit here and wait to find out how many animals she's killed this time. they deserve so much more than this trash.>>674658
right? she knew Jonny for what, two weeks, before he moved into her house? acting like knowing this guy for a month proves she's not already reliant on him for her self-esteem is a joke. she said it herself in her "by myself" insta post.>>674667
I'm probably wrong and I hope I am but why does this sound exactly like one of her drug-fueled rants
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"I'm not gonna pay attention going forward to any concerns"
There it is! She's pretending like she's ever given any mind to meaningful concerns. But she's said this like a million times ("I don't have time for that kind of thing anymore" etc) but she can't help herself from responding to negative attention. She's such an asshole though, who responds to a concerned fan like that? People legitimately care about this girl and she consistently brushes them off. Newsflash Taylor: you don't know better than every other person on the planet!
“Known him for over a month”
… has only been in rehab/sober living for 27? days. Lmao
lol when they say don't get into a relationship they usually mean don't date period. Even if you're just hooking up it's easy to go back to using with another addict. This is when you're supposed to be discovering your own faults and working on them. Not distracting yourself with things like a dude…not much different then drugs tbh. So I see rehab has't done much for her. And I bet they don't know…why they'd be okay with it (also they'll let you ruin your life if you want lmao what does she think they'd stop her?!)>>674706
Sadly I believe this tinfoil
she clearly hasn't learned that there are MANY johnny's in the drug world. Even people who are your "friends" can suck you dry and lead you down a bad path. Not a good look Taylor
she's got an audience of over a million anon, and a heroin addict is not a healthy role model, end of story.
one thing if she did it alone but she glorifys this shit.
>>674723>I'm obsessed!!!>omg chill out you guise I'm allowed to have casual fun>”ISN'T HE SO CUTE OMG” to thousands of followers
if it was really nothing serious, why is he appearing on your social media as a love interest only two days after you get out of rehab and break up with your abusive
rapist junkie boyfriend? wouldn't you want to keep it on the DL?
oh right Taylor only lives life if she proves it through social media and has it confirmed by whatever man she's got in her life at that moment
Taylor broke it off before she went into rehab. Just putting out there. I think it's even trashier that she's just traded in one junkie for another. She really just wants toxic
relationships, doesn't she. Her savior victim
complex is through the fucking roof.
shes in a new hornymoon stage with a new guy. She'll feel ontop of the world cause it's a new kind of high. She doesn't give a shit about the dude only how it makes her feel.
I mean he might be a regular dude but he's still an addict. The fact that at his age he'd get with someone that young shows he's probably not a great catch either. Taylor seems to equate her personal value to the man she's fucking.
Just two weeks ago she confirmed from inside rehab
that she was still with Jonny, to Jen >>670558
Taylor has only just broken up with him when she stopped calling him recently, around 8 days ago >>672260
although she might have preferred him out of the way pre-rehab and that's why he got sent out of state. It was obvious she was restless.
I don’t think that’s necessarily confirming that to Jen that they were together, just that they were talking/still in communication.
She posted that their relationship was over before she went to rehab. I’m sure he still trying to guilt her into talking to him and try to manipulate her into taking him back, like everyone thought he would, but that doesn’t mean they were together.
shes an emotional wreck, she needs to stop being a melodramatic middleschooler. The attention seeking needs to stop and she needs to focus on the responsibility of her animals and her health.>>674739
yea if she told him she's rich and has a house that's probably enough for most junkies. She's a walking mealticket, the only thing they have to do is put up with her bullshit.
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Hopefully this means rehab taught her to not use alcohol to ‘calm her nerves’?
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She needs to calm down a notch
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Who even says shit like this? Usually when you’re newly single, you want to take time to reflect to yourself. You don’t obsess with dating someone else.
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the people encouraging her boy crushing are just as thirsty as taylor. anyone who thinks being fresh out of rehab AND a relationship (not to mention a toxic
one at that) and then getting into a new relationship with a junkie even if it's just a fling is unstable.
taylor's on the high of getting out of rehab and getting away from jonny. we'll see how long it lasts before she's back to lying about being sober. how is she supposed to take care of her hoard when she's pissing around like this.
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Lol these were posted within 24 hours of each other.
She's a hypocrite, I feel like she's only fucking this guy out of self pity and to make Jonny jealous.
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Like goddamn the contrast.
You can't be mad if you've already been fucking someone.
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I second the sentiment that she needs to tone it the fuck down. She’s been broken up with the manlet for one day and is already making plans with this new guy. She’s so thirsty looking that it’s embarrassing to watch.
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man is she laying it on thick though. I would have thought the hickeys were more than enough.
any news from jonny's fb? seems to be the only place he's still posting to.
“i’m crushing on him”
jesus fucking christ taylor. we were all rooting for you. get it together PLEASE
Exactly what bothers me about it is that she complained about Jonny finding someone while she was in rehab even though she made it clear they broke up as soon as she went to rehab. Then Jonny saying that they were making plans for when she'd get out, implying she probably wasn't even clear to him about wanting to break up and stringing him along. Then we find out while she was doing that to Jonny, she found a guy herself while she was in rehab?
Taylor and Jonny are both pieces of shit tbh.
I thought the same. Could be a birth mark or early graying as it happens to some. Her taste in men is an F- but this guy is a C compared to JC. Either way, she’s definitely hurting and def extra posting to make JC jealous and explode. She should def tone it down but it’s Taylor. She loves the attention and the speculation. Add on top of the fact that she does have co dependency issues.
Her post of her being freshly single and being obsessed with men - playing devils advocate, I can see what she means, but again, she comes off desperate and annoying
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If the guy is fit, and he does look built in >>674586
then he may have been in rehab for a relapse. also>>674790
the VA RVCA hat -> "Gym Workout Clothes & Accessories Inspired by our MMA & Jiu Jitsu Ambassadors"
so I'm voting he's not a fresh junkie.
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If she met him during rehab he is probably a professional/volunteer/whatever and should not be having any intimate relationships with the patients. Someone here probably knows how that would work on an official front but I cannot see the rehab place just letting the two be - perhaps why she quit early and is moving out soon too? >>674858
Have to say he's handling this better than we expected but I wonder how long it will take him to get high and start shit.
his ass is probably on this site right now, so he'd see it regardless if people send him shit.
he must be dying inside because his ass really wants to expose her, im sure.
im sure he checks up on her every chance he gets.
They're playing games with each other.
Taylor right now is doing the typical things some people do after getting out of an abusive
"You hurt me, and now I'm going to hurt you twice as bad", it's petty and immature but this is exactly what she's doing. "I'm doing to you, what you did to me". It's dumb but that's what victims
do sometimes, especially young semi egotistical ones.
Jonny is acting like the victim
now, staying silent and acting hurt.
Reality is he probably doesn't give a shit at all, he might be mad he's lost control and her money, but he ain't sad about Taylor. He's got side hoes sucking up his ass and has for the last few years, he's fine.
They're literally playing with each other's emotions still, with Taylor thinking she's finally in control.
She's not, she'll crash and burn once Mr muscles fucks off back to his life eventually or they'll crash together, eventually Jonny's gonna get bitter when he realises he's depleted of all control and start spilling the tea on her.
We know Jonny has cheated, Taylor admitted he's done it before, she forgave him heaps. If Taylor does crawl back to Jonny he'll forgive her because it's not each other they care about, it's the novelty of what they HAVE that they care about.
So she literally talked to him about having a relationship, but later.>>674783
AAAAnd shes talking about having him in her videos.
Shes basically dating this guy already, all dating means is your seeing someone. If this guy started banging other girls she'd lose her shit and he'd be an asshole. They've def got some sort of exclusive pact going on.
Taylor's not about to go sleeping with a bunch of different guys. She has PLANS for this one.
Taylor likes to think she's in control of all these guys but in reality she's often the one getting used.
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From animal addiction
To heroin addiction
And now sex Addiction.
Sah health, much change. Growth, YoU gO gIRl YaS
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Of course she's in the lower %
So which one has addiction Taylor, mama or papa Dean? My bets are on Mama Dean, probably pops all the valiums and closet drinks to cope with her disabled son and ungrateful daughter.
Taylor pretending she ever gave a shit about others and their genuine concern is a big lol. Taylor does whatever the fuck she wants and always has. Only when she can't handle the heat she will pretend to care.>>674882
For real! She is doing the typical narcissist casting for her movie that is her life.
Always shirking off blame.
Addiction isn't a choice, it's something that happens in your body and brain chemistry. But picking up something you subsequently get addicted to IS a choice. Nobody forced you to do heroin Taylor.
She’s really going to piss me tf off. As if she even knows how to read a primary scientific article and decipher information in them. Don’t act like you give any fucks about addiction considering all you care about right now is getting dicked down. She’s the epitome of a cum dumpster.
Wonder how mama Dean is going to respond to her daughter going through a “hoe phase.” This cum dumpster is going to get diseases and spread them because she’s a fucking retard.
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once a hoe always a hoe.
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So much for not announcing where she is lol
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Lmao because pics of deceased people who overdosed are so funny guis I'd never I have it under control now!!!
I'm sure if a rescue was looking after your animals your mum would have said so Taylor and you would have bragged about it as soon as you came back.
I don't think she has seen the animals at all.
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Inb4 these get deleted
Wise Taylor explaining how addiction works to pleb oblivious fans
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"hahahahaha" so funny guys!
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So, on her neck… hickeys, or a rash?
murder-suicide when tbh>>674878
I can't wait for Jonny to spill tea. No way he's just gonna roll over and play nice for the rest of his life.
shes annoying af, but we all know she doesn't think deceased people that overdosed is funny.
its quite clear what she means by the lmao on her tweet.
some of you people, I swear.
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Definitely hickies, they are just healing so looks like red spots but the dentation and mouth shape are there.
So much for an abusive victim
, usually after getting out of a relationship you wait for awhile before dating to learn to reread red flags, she already has two abusive
relationships and a ex junkie isn't a good catch since if one relapse the other one will do it too. (Like her dynamic with Jonny)
Not to medfag but heroin CAN cause alopecia. So can any other drug though.
And it'd probably help if she'd showered more than once every few weeks>>674943
God, this "muh sexual liberation" phase is so cringy and I'm sure she's gonna regret it instantly once the sober glow fades. Less than a year back she marketed herself as a family-friendly pet mom and now she's sounding like a twitter kpop stan with all this "y'all" and "getting dick yo".
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I don't even understand her logic. Maybe this dude already has a girl and he's just taking her for what shes worth. Junkies aren't known to be paragons of society
I think jonny broke her. All this dick shit seems like a way to cover up her shame in dating him.
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Go get him, guiseeee~
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Already edited the caption again and disabled comments. God she is full of herself.
It's like she doesn't understand that if you don't engage in addictive behaviors in the first place (drinking, drugs), you won't get physically addicted to them… She mentions it's genetic, if you know something runs in your family, you generally do whatever you can to avoid the problems associated with whatever the genetic issue is.
Does she really think that 85% of heroin users aren't addicted? Read a whole study, not just a headline, it's not that hard
“If you don’t have it, don’t talk it about!!!!”
What’s that? You’ve actually read studies? Sorry but if you haven’t dont China White at LEAST hourly, you can’t talk about it!!!
Physical dependence is not the same thing as addiction. She's addicted because heroin has rewired her brain. There's nothing genetic about that.
Addiction is a choice.
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she retweeted this, she must feel sooo unsafe guisss
Don’t get me wrong Jonny Craig is a shit dumpster, but what’s her excuse for dating him in the first place? That was solely her choice to begin that relationship just like it was her choice to start using heroin.
We were all ASSHOLES the entire time for warning her about him and his past drug use. Is she really going to spin this like she didn’t know that addiction can be partially genetic? Like how dumb does she think people are? She NEVER fooled this thread once. Everything this thread has ever speculated has turned out to be true so far…
Also Taylor shut the fuck up. Being a junkie isn't a personality trait or quirky thing. Plenty of people also have experienced addiction in other ways that do not involve getting addicted themselves but seeing a loved one going through it.
Keep showing just how truly rotten to the core you are! You're doing a fantastic job sweetie! Manipulative psycho passive aggressive cunt.
She 100% knew what she was getting into, she just didn't care. She thought she could change him and it backfired. Now she's all pissy cause he ended up changing her. She got rekt now shes mad.
It's an ego/Identity thing.
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She is so scared of him guise
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This! Her trying to provoke him I feel might have to do with this new guy. She probably is hoping Jonny will react so this new guy can come in and save her. I see her as so fucked up and capable of pulling a stunt like that.
I hope Jonny doesn't give her what she wants.
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She's so mad, he really got inside her head didn't he?
She's just now coming to the realization that shes been a dumbass this entire time, now she's trying to brush it off with humor. Her pride was so wounded that she was stupid enough to fall for jonny craig. It's more than obvious based on her manic behavior shes not fine.
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sorry for the shitty screenshots but we're finally getting to see some of the animals
Was going to say the same.
Also to note, she's only seeing her animals now so when she said she was doing it a day or so ago was a lie. She will take any opportunity to take pictures and brag.
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My god she really is the gift that keeps on giving. I actually thought therapy and rehab would decrease her milk potential but wow what a comeback!
She wants him to flip and threaten her so she can act like the victim
. Like girl, do you really think this makes you look empowered? It makes you look like a psycho, druggie brat. This behavior is straight up disrespectful to every one of Johnny's victims
- you know, the ones you made fun of. Now you have the gall to throw him under the bus and act like everything bad that's ever happened to you is his fault? Have some fucking self reflection.
I never thought I'd say this but… good for Johnny. You know what? Repent for all the shit you've done, get clean and work your way back up, Johnny. Can't believe I'm actually siding with him on this one- I too hope he gets his shit together and moves on past this crazy bitch.
I hope she ends up with no one- I hope the guy flees town from her psycho behavior, her parents get sick of her and cut her lose and she's finally forced to face the consequences of her actions for once in her life.
Who would have imagined that Taylor manages to make Jonny look like he is fucking better than her?
I really hope that he just doesn't end up giving her what she is now trying to gun for. Deprive her from the attention she so much desires Jonny. Do not give in to her.
This will be the time he can actually say his ex is crazy.
she's 100% trying to make jonny flip. she's playing mind games to satisfy her narc needs. I bet she's mad that jonny's being silent. He's being surprisingly mature right now. Taylor actually is on her way of becoming the crazy ex for jonny.
I think it's clear that she's greatly exaggerated how much she was abused (like her parents saying she had it 100x worse than any of his exes). Who would be focusing on an abusive
ex's dick size and lack of sexual prowess as the problem? I would have thought she'd be glad he wasn't forcing himself on her.
Yea jonny is a straight up cunt but she's acting seriously insane rn.
I'm starting to wonder how "forced" she was to take heroin.
Surprise, surprise she shows none of the other animals. Gotta clean out those dead bodies and order replacements before the next set of photos.
Lol Johnny was giving this little twit 10 unit baby shots. I used for almost 10 years and still caught a nod every time.
Because I wasn’t shooting cheap Chinese knock off dope having someone control my dose.
It’s embarassing to have this fake ~junky~ spreading so much misinformation. Junkies don’t get high, just stay well? Bullshit.
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wouldnt be the first illogical thing she's done but I agree.
And here's a pic of duck she just posted.
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Have we been wrong the whole time?
Did Taylor really ruin jonny's career?!?
>be jonny>be high functioning heroin addict>still perform live and go on tour>fuck up last relationship cause your a dick>meets young fan>Says she's dtf and drugs>move in with her and tour for dope money>gives some pills to gf cause she wants to try>gf wants stronger drugs, smoke heroin>still tour and work in shit band>gf says she wants stronger high>you carefully inject her with some H>She loves it and says your amazing>Your on tour and gf calls crying to come home and give her some H>You quit the band>GF wants even more H>you tell gf to calm down>GF now wants to get sober>GF pissed your not in a band anymore>GF says lets buy a house to save the relationship>You say ima keep using but go get sober if you want>GF keeps using and now hysterical she's gonna die after cutting back>GF says we need a break>sends you to new york>GF breaks up with you over phone>No longer in a band>No money>No longer contributing to society>feelsbadman
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I CANT with that stans comment. What a fucking dumb ass. They just crank these kids out dumber and dumber by the day.
Is this girl a self-poster or does she just comment on fucking everything Taylor says? This is probably the 3rd or 4th time I have seen her on here.
And honestly JC is garbage but I'm at the point where I don't even believe he was abusive
. Manipulative and a cheater, sure. Shitty, absolutely. But I've always kinda thought Chelsea and Amanda were playing the situation up to get pity points so of course Taylor is going to jump in on that. Chelsea obviously is still obsessed with him and the situation (hi, Chelsea). Also, he never "held her down and shot her up" so can we please stop saying that. It's making us look bad.
Amanda obviously wanted all the attention she could get from him, "leaking" videos of him doing heroin and claiming her phone got hacked. Jonny is obnoxious and foul, but let's keep our facts straight here. Also where exactly in the past threads did we find out he raped someone? I've seen him say he wouldn't help Chelsea if she was being raped, and I apologize if I missed this somehow. But how did he become a "rapist" through all this?
Also Taylor keeps saying addiction is a disease yet simultaneously saying JC got her hooked on heroin. Which is it, Taylor? Anything but accepting responsibility for it. I was a heroin addict for 10 years and it's so cringy and embarrassing watching her in action. Whoever called that guy a "typical rehab Kyle" was spot on, I guarantee he vapes too. He literally looks like a combination of every guy I've been in rehab with. Everything she's doing with him is to make JC jealous and he's doing the right thing by not acknowledging it. Taylor is going to continue using him as a scapegoat for literally everything.
One thing I noticed that I kept wanting to bring up is how graphically Taylor describes her addiction. Anyone who does that isn't done yet, period. Not that I thought for a second she was but that just solidifies it for me. The constant talk about "not having any veins left" and how they took hours to find a vein and had to send doctors in or whatever (which was complete bullshit, that's absolutely not what happens), the detail she goes into, the pictures, etc. It's not "the gruesome reality of addiction" or whatever she pushes it as. It's her subconsciously romanticizing it. It's also her saying "look at how sick I am, I had it worse than you". It's an extreme pet peeve of mine and she would be obnoxious to be in rehab with, or just around at all.
just having some fun anon.
Jonny is a POS but Taylor may have been the one to seek out the drugs in the first place.
She’s really trying to play it off lollll
>I'm at the point where I don't even believe he was abusive.>I've always kinda thought Chelsea and Amanda were playing the situation up to get pity points>Also, he never "held her down and shot her up" so can we please stop saying that. It's making us look bad.
Can we just fucking NOT with this bullshit?
Are we really at the point where we're gonna claim Jonny "Did NOTHING wrong" & that all
of his victims
>>675040>But how did he become a "rapist" through all this?
I'd like to get to the bottom of this one too. The allegations have been brought up over and over again and the story has changed and details have been exaggerated each time.
Let's face it we have no idea if JC's exes are reliable sources. I'm inclined to believe them over jonny, but none of us were there to see what really happened.
>"look at how sick I am, I had it worse than you"
It's her munchausen's showing. She's always wanted to be sick to get attention, she's delighted to show it off now that she actually managed to make herself sick. that's what munchies do.
I thought it was funny. calm down anon.
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Making fun of her crappy diet perhaps? For someone with all these "diseases" she doesn't seem to take care of her health very well.
I mean if she can't take care of her own health how can we expect her to take care of her animals?
>>675055>Are we really at the point where we're gonna claim Jonny "Did NOTHING wrong" & that all of his victims lied?
no one is saying that. he's a shit person. but I personally would like to see some facts instead of retellings of retellings of someone's allegations.
people are going easy on him right now because taylor is acting so insane she's making him look good by comparison. the moment he slips up people will be back to hating him again, don't worry.
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green tree python whatever it's name was
how exactly would you like proof of 3+ year old rapes? A decade of him abusing women and raping them. But now proof is NEEDED to believe his victims
, all because of the hatred for Taylor moving on so fast? He was in a relationship with each of the 3 females who banded together and claimed drug and alcohol fueled abuse and rape. They loved him, they weren’t going to the police. Their is a lot of emotion in this, more than we will ever understand because we are not those women who went thru this. What do y’all want? Videos of rape that clearly show Jonnys face?
Nobody is defending jonny here anon. His drug and alcohol abuse is well documented, but consent is dubious when drugs and alcohol are involved. I'm sure he's had sex with people while they were drunk/high. Wouldn't be surprised if he's done far worse.
Jonny's abuse was always manipulation never physical based on what I've seen. Based on what I can tell he never hit Taylor or forced her to do anything she didn't want. He might've encouraged bad and illegal things for sure.
You're certainly toeing the line, though. We've all operated under the assumption that he's a bad guy and that he's likely an abuser. Of course people are going to get annoyed when the second he's opposing Taylor that we get several comments trying to walk back on this consensus.
It doesn't seem motivated by the fact that people genuinely don't believe the allegations so much as people care less about his behavior when he's not Taylor's pet. Maybe it's a wrong assumption, but lets not pretend its a completely unreasonable perspective.
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maui is still with her too
It seems like people forget everyone reacts to situations differently. Not all abuse victims
act the same way. He may not have physically abused her but it sounds like he did mentally/emotionally and now that she broke free shes mad. That's how my cousin reacted when she got out of an emotionally abusive
rs, but it's not how others may act.
She'd never give away feeders she "rescued" i'm thinking hedgehogs, crested geckos (cause they're boring), twisty, croc skinks, mayby some of the smaller snakes, Haven't seen kronos either so he's probably gone.
All the balls are staying from what I can tell, cats, rats. Those are for sure staying. prob Mushu as well.
No abuse victim
is going to be baiting their abuser on the internet. You are told not to say shit when you get a restraining order. Her"abuse" is all in her head.
You know you may be right that those of us who are questioning had previously thought her to be physically abused.
If your primary reason for labeling him an abuser/rapist is because of what his other 2 Exs say, then there has been no catalyst for questioning. It seems out of turn. If your reason was Taylor, then you may feel the opposite way.
Personally, I'm inclined to believe the vast amount of empirical evidence we've seen throughout these threads that suggests he did do many of the things he's been accused of by these women
Can you calm down? He didn't hold anyone down and shoot them up, it came from the horse's own mouth (aka his "victim
") that that wasn't the case. I wasn't defending him at all. I completely agree with the other anon about the exaggerated retellings. It indeed makes us look bad. I've been seeing that a lot on here especially recently, it becomes a game of telephone like you'd play in elementary school. Plus Chelsea is extremely bitter. While having sex with someone while they're crying may be disgusting. crying alone still unfortunately doesn't equal lack of consent. I'm going to reserve judgment on that one since I know nothing about it, why she was crying, or who said it, plus I'm not trying to get involved in a tired ass "what constitutes rape" argument.
Look, no one likes JC here, obviously. But that doesn't mean we just hurl (serious) accusations and tout them as factual, getting mad if someone so much as even questions their origin. We want people to believe us and we don't want to have to feel the need to fact check every little thing and the boards are close to becoming a place for storytime bullshit. That shit discredits us.
Look I agree with you, but even I can see that you need to take a step back. You're not going to be received well with that tone, and if your intention is not to be received well then you're no better than the common troll.
You can say that you believe the empirical evidence and accounts of his abuse from multiple women without getting so upset.
both sides of this argument need to understand that there is no we and there is no consensus. and we don't need to be the judge of what is true.
jonny is a scamming abusing childabandoning piece of shit. he'd be a terrible person even if he wasn't a rapist. so lets lol at him when he spills the beans about taylor.
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It’s already in her bio. inb4 next “viral” video is taunting her snake with hats.
lol, if only. Who knows what kinda stuff she got from the disease-ridden-carrot. I don't think shes actually gonna sleep around shes just feeling rebellious.
>teehee I kissed a guy, im so bad teehee.
She's on a power trip but shes a serial monogamist. It's not like she's gonna go to bars and take home random guys, she just wants the fantasy of the bad bitch who dun need no man.
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"viral" under 400k. Her YT numbers have been shit lately.>>675126
drug related? I kinda doubt hes actually visiting his daughter.
Come on anon, what the fuck.
of the same person tell similar stories about their abuser so they all must be lying and plotting something.
Just because some of us are pissed at Taylor for behaving like a retard, don't even dare Jonnys side by saying he's a nice guy who just happens to always meet the wrong women.
Discrediting abuse/rape victims
, way to go anon, good job.
what a pointless fucking argument. one retard says something ridiculous and suddenly "everyone is taking jonny's side". the anon you're replying to didn't even say he was a good guy, they said he's still a piece of trash no matter what.
I wish taylor would just post the rest of the fucking animals.
"It's something I worked hard for"
Worked hard for…how?
This is seriously funny! Even if it did happen more that way, it'd be hilarious karma.
I think it's possible to both believe his past victims
but also think well, maybe he wasn't as awful to Taylor as he was to them. First of all, Taylor jumps at any opportunity to be a victim
, I'm sure he knew that. And the only thing she has said was that he "introduced" her to heroin. Not that he shot her up or anything. This is basically a Taylor-ism for just her agreeing to try heroin. So far, this is the worst
thing she has said about him since coming out of rehab. If it were so awful why not come out with anything else?
Second of all, throughout their entire relationship they were both heavily watched by the internet, and everyone was waiting every second for him to lay a hand on her. I think he also knew that.
And now all the taunting him. I don't doubt he was emotionally abusive
, maybe he yelled at her, punched a wall, said he would flush her cat, etc. I don't think he was as bad to her as he was to his exes.
And you know what? Deep down perhaps she's jealous they can be more of a victim
than she is.
Also, I'm willing to bet she also did some awful shit to him. Not like it was undeserved, but I'm sure at some points it went both ways.
They're both shitty in their own ways. Everyone has a cow they hate more for their own reasons.>>675164
He's pretty dumb if he got blindsided, he had people literally telling him she was breaking up with him on his way to New York.
At least jonny was honest about what he was from the start, Taylor was ok with that and used him drugs and attention. Nobody likes a man bitch tho, the whole therapy saga just seems like an excuse to find another guy not get better.
I doubt he has anything milky. Seems like he didn't care or focus too much on her animals. Probably has info on her slob habits.>>675168
I don't think jonny is gonna be around much longer anyway, his PC and stuff maby he's sold to get back to texas tinfoil.
Bro fuck off. No one cares about your "we need evidence" argument of situations that occurred YEARS ago. You keep harping on about his exes being bitter and trying to frame it like they have to prove themselves to you and you alone. You sound like one of those fags in Jonny's discord.
We can hurl "accusation" all we want. Jonny has the reputation as a piece of shit for a reason.
that would make sense if she paid him off.
Jonny is guilty of sexual harassment that document tho. jonny isn't standing in alleys raping people, its that grey area shit (consent) that just proves he's scummy.
idk, I can't see him keeping any sort of legal agreement cause he's such a pos, especially as time goes on and she flaunts her boytoy even more
I'm expecting him to get out of crybaby mode and rage at some point or he won't be the JC we've seen over and over
this. can't believe the amount of triggered
people that come at you when they think you don't hate JC enough.
you can scream that he is a rapist as much as you want, it doesn't automatically make it true. people mistake the narratives they've created in their heads for truth. you don't even know any of these people jfc. >>675175
that would mean they presented each other with a NDA. which is a hilarious mental image.
If it were obvious we wouldn't be having this conversation, would we?
And are we really at the point where reasonable speculation is "tinfoiling"?
She thinks having animals is a good idea because she considers them items. Their deaths do not phase her. If she gets rid of any it will because moving them is a hassle, or because she'd rather not clean up another carcass
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I wanna know where her eyebrow went.
I hope the way she looks now is a wake up call. Even tho it's no makeup its still bad, shes got years to go till she looks better.
This is pretty much what I suspect too. Taylor being too high profile for him to actually be the standard piece of shit he has been in the other relationships. I believe his exes. I do not believe Taylor. Even the thing she said he threatened to flush the kitten, who is to say she didn't lie about that to get mutual pity from Chelsea? She would be that sick in the head anyway. And I can see her be bitter and angry she can't be more of a victim
. Hence why she so desperately is taunting him. I still can't believe honestly the way she is trying to provoke him. Either way I hope he stays in this pity party and doesn't do his usual shit, he will fuck her up more by playing innocent hurt boi.
I believe he was the monster his exes describe him as. I do not think he was the same monster to Taylor because of her money and such. When she speaks 10 words, 11 are a lie.
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She really comin for him huh
Any sentence with "no abuse victim
If you could shut the fuck up (or at least never work in social services), that'd be greeeeat.
Not every abuse victim
goes on to abuse others, but some do
. If someone has abused another person, are they then incapable of being abused?
Blogpost, but I knew someone who served time for sexually assaulting a minor. That person was sexually assaulted when they were a minor.
It is in fact possible to empathize with a person's suffering while at the same time refusing to condone their shit behaviour.(no1curr)
>I have a feeling (tinfoil obv) that she could only take pics of those few animals because they looked the “best”. All the others probably have hella dirty enclosures, their weights are probably not adequate, and who knows who’s died. >She says “everyone’s alive and well!!!” But also says she’s already downsized and hasn’t been specific about that, so whatever she rehomed could’ve easily been a death she wrote off.
I guarantee you that’s exactly what she’s doing. I’d bet money on it. Plausible deniability. Anything that’s dead or dying she can just tell us she rehomed and feed her “I’m Such A Good Pet Mom bc I Gave Away My Babies” lie to her fans. The rest are probably in poor conditions and/or sick and she won’t show that on camera.
Additional tinfoil: notice how her snake pics don’t show the enclosures or are super close up? Could it be to hide their empty/dirty bowls, etc?
Childhood sexual assault and domestic abuse/emotional abuse as adults are apples and oranges. Its even studied that men who experience sexual assault as children end up repeating the offense as adults (not everyone but an estimated good few do) while women are more likely to continue to seek out abusive
/unhealthy relationships. Again cant be compared, not everything labeled abuse go under the same umbrella just the same as tacking "no abuse victim
would…" however alot of anons are saying this within contex of taylor
and should be kept in mind.
This is what happens when you think it's okay to behave like a nasty whore and fuck outside of relationships. Thanks "hookup culture!" Of course she doesn't care who she has sex with, she has no self respect so she'll probably fuck any man under 6ft with pubey neck hair. And DUH kids think it's okay, they're given condoms at 12 these days. they're having sex in middle school now.
Dumb cunt has no discretion and will probably continue down this manic path by sleeping with any manlet to cross her path while tweeting about it because she's on a sober high. Every decision she makes for herself feels amazing. Animal hoarder? More like STD hoarder huh sis? Her number is probably in the double digits now, and it hasn't even been a month.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
pretty sure she was a skank in highschool and is just returning to her "roots".
Taylor has been trashy forever, she's just gotten worse over time. At some point it will bite her in the ass, hopefully sooner rather than later.>>675239
pretty sure people are just trolling in this thread now. stap with the flaming.
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Wow holy shit shes so edgy….
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Weird how she still follows him after all this
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considering mama deans "all the porn on twitter is ruining the world" rant the other day, I'm wondering what she thinks about her daughter publicly admitting to being a whore.
no the fuck she does not. would it have killed you to take the literal 3 seconds to actually check her/his following list?? the lingering “also followed by” is a well known glitch. verify shit like this BEFORE posting or else you get idiot spergs like >>675278>>675275>>675276
using it to feed their autistic tinfoil.
are they baiting us? They have to be baiting us right
Is it really possible to realistically be this trashy?
If she were the average person in their 20’s posting about her sexuality and being proud of it, it would be different.
This is a 22 year old girl who made her living off of predominantly 12-14 year olds watching her content, who then proceeded to hoard animals, rebel against her parents (not abnormal) which caused her to slingshot HARD to the edgy/druggie/Hollywood lifestyle and knowingly get addicted to heroin while preaching that she has an addictive personality. She lies constantly, so who knows what is true and what’s not.
She’s lied about being sober, about her doctor saying it’s okay to drink alcohol while being an outpatient, and while I do believe she went to rehab for the month, I do NOT believe it is safe for her to be engaging in sex so soon after being out.
Addiction isn’t specified to only one substance (usually) and sex is addictive.
Tattoos are addictive.
Attention from others is addictive.
This isn’t slut shaming, this is genuine concern because she’s so obviously going to relapse if she keeps this up.
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Also back to retweeting hate to look like the ultimate victim
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how many different versions of this have we heard?
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if you don’t want your mom to see your cringey fuckin tweets then maybe dont do it on an acc with almost 200k followers..?
"they're all healthy. all of them. just saw them today."
Major Trump vibes. Just saying.
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sorry for all the screenshots, she’s sperging on twitter
>>675327>this account is about me>why would you want to see some irrelevant animals >me me me me>pay attention to me>waahh>>675326
Of course she's going to shift blame on him about anything she's said wrong in the last two years. There's no way to verify who posted what, she can claim that with any tweet she wants.
That "lol" is a fucking cherry on top. She was never abused if she can be so stone cold about someone else's suffering.
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I'll be really surprised if these two don't end up moving together in the next two weeks.
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Lol did she just learn this phrase or something?? How many times has she said it in the past two days?
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what the hell does that even mean? it's easy to move on but hard to escape?
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You've known this person for one month, Taylor.
Of course he's gonna have "your best interests" because you're fucking. The last thing she should be thinking about is "having fun". She can claim it's just a hook up and platonic until she's blue in the face but it only shows that she's codependent as fuck and literally cannot function properly on her own.
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she was using fentanyl too, guys. every hour, if I had to guess, lol.
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>so proud of you that you used the strongest drug there is
>yeah, I outgrew china white, you know
her fans are fucked
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why dont you link your sourced, moron. the world doesn't have to prove you wrong, you have to prove yourself right.
oh, right, you havent read a single article ever.
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so close to being self aware, yet so far.
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are her fans 10 or braindead.
because taylor's single anectone definitely does a better job of proving addiction genetics than any researcher ever woulf. fuck me, I'm losing braincells.
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Wonder where he’s going now
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I have alcoholics in my family too and wow, lookie at that. I don't do drugs and I'm not an alcoholic. That doesn't prove shit, this is such toxic
thinking. Sure, you become addicted to something if you try it. BUT YOU MADE THE CHOICE TO TRY IT. She's really trying to spin this as 'ob woe is me, I had no choice I was predisposed from the beginning to get addicted to heroin!!"
Most people get addicted to heroin when they CHOOSE. TO. TRY. IT. You didn't just fall onto a needle, Taylor. You went through the steps of wanting to do heroin, to sourcing it, to having it in your hands and then proceeding to shoot up.
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So the twitter fiasco wasn’t cringeworthy enough, you have to frame your turd art too huh?
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someone remind me which snake this is
This is what's pissing me off so much about her "iT's a GEneTiC diSeasE" posts.
Yes. Addiction can be genetic. It can also just be because heroin is a fucking monster of a drug. You don't need a genetic predisposition for addiction to get hooked on it. You touch that shit once and you're hooked. It's not a drug you can maintain a normal lifestyle with. It will cripple ANYONE who tries it, even if you're have no genetic history of addiction.
She's telling impressionable children her heroin addiction was genetic when in reality, it's because it's a fucking addictive drug.
She's a fucking idiot.
And good lord, I knew she was a bimbo but she's acting like a trailer trash whore. Look, you wanna fuck men? Fine, do it. But to jump the first dick that made you laugh two weeks into rehab then post pictures of your hickies all over the internet? Fucking gross. She's doing what a 14 year old THINKS cool adults are like.
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Oh come on, she's making it look like Jonny was tweeting for her all the time, when it's very clear that the way they both write is very different.
And what about Jennifer calling Chelsea a liar? Was that Jonny too?
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Just checked and she’s not following him
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>wasn't me lol
what a convenient fucking excuse
That Twitter user is RIGHT though Taylor. When biological papers say it's a genetic condition, the paper actually goes into detail about PREDISPOSITION, not CAUSATION.
Not that most people ever read such papers, but seriously, she claims to be an "educator" but purposefully misportrayed what credible journals said??? Yeah ok bitch.
What a great influence, telling junkies and other drug abusers that "iT's GeNeTiC" (learn the word hereditary, bitch).
Hint: don't do such a powerful drug in the first place, you dumb bitch. That's why people being introduced to drugs don't go and just do heroin immediately, they lead up to that.
God, this bitch is going to get a stan killed at this rate from a drug overdose. >>675395
EXACTLY. This bitch is deliberately pushing blame on something she doesn't/can't understand. She's such a fucking self-absorbed peabrain.
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addiction is always genetic, anon. taylor would know, she studied her family tree extensively, reaching as far as her grandfather.
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This shit right here is pissing me off. The whole argument for genetic addiction is geared towards things that aren’t NORMALLY addictive, like shopping, gambling, eating, literally anything in the fucking universe can become addictive if you have the predisposition for it.
But to put all the blame of a fucking HEROIN addiction on genetics is the stupidest shit I’ve ever heard. Drugs are drugs for a reason. Nicotine, cocaine, opioids, etc are BOTH mentally and physically addictive for people with or without a genetic predisposition for addiction. The only thing genetics will do at that point is maybe make it easier/faster for an addiction to form with the “lighter” drugs.
She made the choice to stick a needle in her arm and inject herself with heroin, despite her claims that she was aware of her “addictive personality”. She had prior experience with hard drugs (coke) and has claimed that she’s gotten over that addiction. She cannot blame GENETICS FOR HER ADDICTION.
I will freely say that any addict deserves any help possible after the fact (predisposition or not) because it does fuck you up, it does become a serious illness/disease or whatever you’d like to label it. But they have to take fucking responsibility for the fact that they wouldn’t be addicted to these specific drugs if they didn’t first choose to do them (excluding the rare case of specific circumstances of course).
why does this sound mildly threatening?
somehow my mind goes to jonny going on a killing spree ending everyone who "did him wrong" now that he lost everything ( meaning his band, his gf and with that his source of money). i remember the photos of his father's guns he posted and i don't feel good about it. ppl been wondering if jonny would off himself, but we all know he's too much of a narcissist to do that, i would rather bet he's close to going on a rampage.
tbh you’re probably right. she’s clearly trying to play it “cool” but is failing miserably. I’m actually getting so much secondhand embarrassment from the way she’s acting over this guy. part of me feels like she’s being OTT to rub salt in Jonnys wound. I’m sure he was abusive
but she makes it so hard to believe her when she’s a lying piece of shit herself.
I kinda hope the new guy sees her being obsessive and backs away from her. “by myself” my ass.
Intensive treatment but she's already planning to move elsewhere my ass, she didn't even finish rehab.>>675383
This will be her counter argument to addiction being a choice and all this research she is banging on about which one anon explained already way better than she has. >>675415
There's no way the two aren't dating/thinking of dating. This is just inappropriate just like her posting about him on Twitter. Any normal person would see the red flag and be gone.
Also, when is she going to sleep? She said before that being sober means she can sleep at a normal times, and I think if she suddenly starts staying up all night we will know that she may not be sober.
lip injections, bad tattoos.>>675487
yea people seem to bend over backward if you have money, not a luxury most addicts have.
Maybe that's also why she's being the way she is about him on her social media because he wants to keep it on the DL, her needing an outlet for what she can't express to him because he doesn't wanna go in that deep, and just wants to stick his dick into something. It's so cringe how she's acting regardless. But something tells me not many people would think this is healthy or normal, and if he would see those posts about him he would be creeped out.
I really think that he is the one not wanting a relationship anyways, not her.
She is very cringe rn.
Also have to agree about the genetic thing. Surely she just likes to have it as an excuse and doesn't fully understand it. I mean clearly everyone with an addictive personality isn't addicted to drugs and booze and so you have to chose to do drugs first.
Also her claiming that you can't od when you have a tolerance and get dope sick made me feel sick. This B. Many people have died while in that exact situation and that hints to me that he was doling it out to her and that she didn't really have control of her own supply. You just have to do more than your tolerance Taylor. A tolerance doesn't go from 0 or infinity.
So irresponsible to spew this shit especially when most of her followers are so young and there's a literal epidemic going on.
Yikes you're right actually, I didn't think realize that she's done SO many things that aren't recommended in early recovery. She also had a breakup which while needed makes it 3 things if you want to count breaking up and then finding a new dude as 2 separate things. Even if she moved and broke up with Johnny, if she was in actual danger in SA, it would've made getting clean so much harder. I guess she just wants it impossible to be and I can't wait for her to use that as her excuse for why she relapsed.
Agreed, her young followers need to listen to people with more clean time and so does she for that matter. They tend to talk about not telling "war stories" which is what she's doing and to talk more about how it affected your life and about how you're managing to stay clean now. She can't help herself but brag and it's disgusting and dangerous with the amount of people following her.
Lmao sad that she can't remember this shit and she can literally check here before spouting bs and she clearly reads here.
Wouldn't be surprised if she asked him to shoot her up or he offered because she didn't know how and he obvs does. A lot of addicts shoot each other up willfully and some find it to be a very intimate thing so lol she's not fooling me with her bs. I highly doubt he did that to her.
Which goes with my theory that she may have had it better than his other exes because of her public following and/or because she's the only one that used heroin with him. Interested to see/hear the promised receipts that her and her mom have on Johnny and apparently are going to hold on forever.
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He's laying on the guilt thick to make her feel like a POS. He knows she can't stand to feel like the "bad guy" in this breakup.
Jonny is bringing his A manipulation game. Taylor is probably going bonkers that she can't piss him off.
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In the comments.
regardless, he's been way smarter about it that taylor. the only way he could've handled it better would've been staying completely silent online.
you're acting like taylor isn't playing a manipulation game right now. she has the upper hand in that she can put all the blame on JC and everyone will believe her. he'd be playing right into her hand if he flipped out at her, manipulator or not. >>675519
I wouldn't go this far lol
I think this is definitely the case. As other people have mentioned, he can't really say much to someone in the public eye and she's clearly abusing that and her possible protective order.
P.S Jonny, we are always open to hearing for some milk from you tho
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From JC’s fb.
Look at this lil emo kid being sad without his money bag
Even if she’s “not dating” the guy as she claims, does she not see that this obsessive attachment is basically the same damn thing?
Is she stupid or just willfully ignorant?
I definitely can see this. She is a high key manipulative lying ass cunt. And like another anon mentioned, I also thought about what Collin said, how she got Jonny back into drugs. And if anything, they were both equally as abusive
with another for sure. Taylor has shown more than enough of herself that we know she isn't some innocent victim
Her now claiming she was shot up by him after we mentioned on here about him trying to shoot up Chelsea again is very sus. >>675541
I hope she does. We will never hear the end of it if she gets that and she'll spin it in some weird false narrative.
I hope Jonny manages to keep this up wether it's manipulation or not. Purely for the sake of her not getting that victim
card she's so desperately after. She wants that new guy to come play hero and protect her from Jonny, bet.
Jonny if you still lurk here, don't give that cunt what she wants thanks.
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How about be an adult and not entertain internet trolls?
Jfc. She is cringey as fuck and she is going to lose her following fAST.
I feel like she’s trying to be like Miley Cyrus when she was going through her edgy phase. Rich white girl problems amiright?
she alludes to it here >>675380
but I believe she would say it outright if she was being literally physically forced. She is being vague on purpose
She already turned off the comments for this tweet.
God she is being SO. IMMATURE. She’s acting like a fucking preteen who just figured out twitter and sex
normal way to deal with this:>people are free to think and say whatever they want, but I'm not going to engage with these sort of people
taylor way to deal with this:>lol ugly people calling me ugly HAHAHAHA jealous gross acne ridden kids who don't feel the need to use their face as their profile picture because they aren't attention whores telling me that I'm ungly inside and out lol those losers am I right guise
Maby you wouldn't have to worry about acne and cellulite if you just lay off the heroin.
She had reasonable good skin before ofc people are gonna comment. Her job is to look good for the camera and she looks like shit. I don't she realizes how shallow her fans are.
If she hasn’t already used heroin again, she’s def going to soon. She is already shutting out other people’s concerns and opinions because she is a know it all with an ego. I hope this “friend” of hers gets out soon or else he will be sucked in to her “woe is me” attitude and relapse with her.
She’s been preaching how she just wants to help people now, and wtf has she does to help ANYONE? She’s constantly putting her followers on blast, setting a bad example for her followers, and acting erratic/constantly lying on a public website.
Like how stupid can she be?
She will always be manipulative and a compulsive liar. She doesn’t care about education, she doesn’t care about anyone else’s well being except her own.
I agree with this.
Both my eyebrows are half eyebrows because I draw them on. Some people aren’t blessed with perfect brow shape/thickness.
I think bashing her for a half eyebrow is a bit much. Sure I’m hella disappointed in her actions, but there’s so much more to focus on that’s more important than a brow.
She suggested it.
Idk why everyone is so quick to proclaim anyone and everyone a Jonny stan tho, good lord.
Very bad sign. Prepping for the inevitable relapse if she hasn't already.
She's seriously burning her fanbase to the ground, for every 1 person tweeting "you go girl" 10 more are weirded out and stop watching.
Hopefully someone gets around to exposing her twitter madness in a video, its just sickening.
I hope What Ever or one of the other YTmakers comes through. So much milk to let pass up.
Her deleting her sobriety date is def sketch.
The fucking point is she shouldn’t be disrespecting anyone’s appearance. She acts like she’s flawless.
Also idgaf about your eyebrows. Point is, would you talk shit to someone because they had shitty eyebrows? Probably not, so whatever. Move on.
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TND liked this.
But sure, we are ToTALly not dating y'alllllll.
I am manic depressive myself and if she's not having a manic episode rn I don't know who ist
Imagine the compulsive need to tell your 500k+ audience of rabid, adoring twelve year old girls that getting dicked down on the reg by some nothing dude is your reason for waking up in the morning.
This is absolutely the messiest bitch I have ever seen. Those hickey photos, my god, she is out of fucking hand, lolololol. Blue ribbon at the county fair.
She even tries to put some of the blame on Chelsea, saying "They should have known it was Jonny tweeting and not me, and making those texts public really hurt me".
Maybe stop pushing blame onto everyone else when you have enough to apologize for yourself, especially if you have enough free time to be tweeting about dick…
She doesn't just sound like a dumbass, she is a dumbass. What's the next stupid thing she can do? Marrying the new guy in Vegas to try to trigger
Of course it's her. Come on, speculating this is possibly someone else? Let's see how long it takes for her to say that her Twitter was hacked or some other lie.
She's probably copying the writing style of the guy she's acting desperate over.
Hopefully Jonny knows that this is the biggest way to get at her. Wether it's deliberate manipulation, or he is genuinely mourning that it's over because she was "valuable " doesn't matter.>>675639
Genuinely wouldn't be surprised as I had a tinfoil on her doing this just to reset her tolerance levels so she thinks she can casually use which will then of course escalate. I hope she still lurks here, and sees how many people think she is being more repulsive than Jonny right now. Won t be surprised if she ran out to party city with her boy toy to do some drugs.
Hope you're happy and proud of yourself Taytay! You're doing amazing sweety. Keep digging that grave.
Accurate. She does sound off.
Not sure what a manic episode looks like but it’s obvious she is going through / is on something.
JC is being manipulative but hey at least he is coming off as the mature one wow
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Mania or manic behavior is displayed as wild or out of control behavior. The person feels so “up” that they feel untouchable. They’ll often make incredibly rash decisions and their behavior is very chaotic. Sleeping around, making huge purchases, and risk-taking are all symptoms.
(Source: My best friend is bi-polar and I help her recognize when she’s hitting a manic phase by pointing out behavior she wouldn’t otherwise notice on her own.)(no1curr)
Dust or mites??
I never use aspen for my animals (she says it’s dust from aspen) does this sound/look accurate?
It looks like mites to me
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This is a MBK with mites, and yeah they look awfully similar to the “dust” on Salem
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idk i think mites burrow so don’t think we would see them, and aren’t they black ??
Unless she’s stupid enough to not know what they are. We already know her husbandry is trash.
Or (tinfoil) she’s already high and didn’t notice??
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guess she still has the saltwater tank as well.
I think Taylor's a dumb girl who made dumb choices.
But I wouldn't say she was always corrupt.
She was a teenager that got thrust into fame and didn't handle it well.
She's an idiot for getting involved with Jonny, but… I feel sorry for her. She had a crush on him, he took advantage of the fact she was a teenager. A dumb teenager.
Is it so hard to believe a teenager makes bad choices? I think we forget she was a kid when she got famous. Imagine the celebrity crushes we've all had as teenagers. Now imagine that crush shows interest in you, and you're 18, and you're getting your own brand of famous? Yeah. A lot of us would make the same dumb choices.
And before anyone says Jonny wasn't a celebrity, sure. He may not have been a world famous rock star, but he had enough fame to enchant a teenager.
It doesn't excuse how she treats her animals or how she treated his exes, but I won't go as far as to say she was always corrupt. She was a dumb kid.
She's still a dumb kid.
She's been emotionally stunted.
no anon, there is no "dumb teen" excuse for taylor. she was warned beyond belief, she was 20 or so, she went into his spaces and has literally tweeted she was looking for some rockstar boyfriend for her life. it was all intentional, there is no "dumb teen/kid" excuse for her.
shes been meddling with hard drugs since teen years and addiction is something shes NEVER going to shake off, and getting messed up with heroin was something she probably knew not to do.
shes a dumbass adult whos made dumb decisions all enabled by her wealth and the people around her in her life. she isnt capable of making friends with people who dont constantly sit and validate her.
Oh please. Taylor is an adult who is aware of the consequences of drugs and getting involved with an abusive
rapist. She's not 5.
I think she deserves sympathy because she has totally ruined her life at such a young age but it's still 100% her fault. Everyone tried to help and she mocked or blocked them. She still doesn't give a shit for people warning her now.
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where's this sixpack taylor was bragging about? expected him to be more fit tbh after she went on and on about it.
She's emotionally stunted, but she was NOT a teenager when she started dating Jonny. She's an adult. She's an ADULT who made dumb decisions and yes, she was and still is a bitch. She was neglecting animals and bullying people online before she met Jonny. She thrives off drama and attention, spreads nasty rumors and accusations too.
Remember Bree? How Taylor blamed her for causing her to relapse, bringing coke to petfest AND sexually assaulting her? South Texas Dragons that she slandered for being bad breeders and keeping their beardies in awful conditions? How she never even apologized or made a video despite saying she would? The constant lying and flip-flopping around the truth? Yes, a majority of this happened when she was with Jonny. But he didn't "corrupt" her. She had a nasty heart and soul from the beginning and just showed her true colours while living the lifestyle of the 'bad bitch' girlfriend of a rockstar.
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embarrassing. is she legit manic?
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lol @ nosy people assuming things. taylor is literally screaming from the rooftops about how she's getting dicked by him.
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Taylor 'i have an addictive personality but I'm doing things by myself now and also don't want my ex dating straight after we broke up* Nicole Dean
She's both a victim
and a piece of shit. The two are not mutually exclusive by any means. If only those who did all the right things and did not actively choose to put themselves in situations where they are victimized considered victims
, then there wouldn't be many of them at all, certain health problems like cancer or huntington's notwithstanding.
Taylor's nasty personality doesn't make how Johnny treated her any less wrong. Anybody who practices this kind of black-and-white thinking should hope that onlookers to whatever shitty situations they happen to end up in are treated with more nuance than they are treating this one.
What's the name on his tit?
The absolute state of this trailer trash, using some dude to work up her ex.
She could not care less about this guy. He's a messenger. That's it.
>>675730>seeing where it goes
100% confirmed they're in a relationshop>got to know the best and worst sides of each other in 30 days
lol. is she straight up bullshitting or is she really so fucking dim?
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Is she reading here again?
Never thought I'd see a day in my life where I was hoping for Jonny to speak up. >>675744
I think she's manic. She's getting a lot of attention, and that can feed it.