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No. 597713
21 year old "family friendly pet mom" Youtuber, her 32 year old junkie boyfriend Jonny Craig, and her creepy controlling mother.
Previous thread:
>>>/pt/592820The basics:
> Taylor is a notorious animal hoarder known for collecting 40+ rare and exotic pets and manhandling/mistreating them for the sake of her Youtube channel which has over 1 million subscribers. Several pets have died in her care, many more have fallen ill due to her neglect or disappeared after "rehoming" them. Fails to give proper enclosures for many of her pets, including overstuffing fish tanks, keeping her kittens locked in the bathroom, and her mouse and hedgehog in the closet.> Jonny Craig is the frontman of the band Slaves and is most well-known for being an outspoken abusive junkie. He has been in and out of rehab centers for a decade now and has been kicked out of multiple bands and off of tours for his behavior. He is usually homeless when he does not have a girlfriend to leech off of.> Several of Jonny's ex-girlfriends have come out with stories of Jonny's physical and sexual abuse, including rape at knife-point. His ex Chelsea confided this in Taylor when she and Jonny first started dating, in which Taylor's response was to laugh with Jonny and make a public spectacle of it.> Taylor loves to throw pity parties for herself and dodge around the real issues when faced with criticism about her husbandry, hoarding, and hypocrisy. She can never keep her stories straight and will tell outright lies only to contradict them hours later. Her fans are sycophants who only encourage her.Taylor's Links:
Twitter:
http://www.twitter.com/taylorndean Instagram:
http://www.instagram.com/taylorndean Youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaOTXKuQ-t-eTikY96B9n-Q Facebook (private:)
https://www.facebook.com/Taylor.Nicole.Dean Jonny's Links:
Twitter:
https://twitter.com/jonnycraig4L Instagram:
https://www.instagram.com/jonnycraig4lJen’s Links:
https://twitter.com/tamonandpumbaList of all Taylor's pets:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QNUksDcQk_cqLTkTFTiPjP2pCGBQgORyCesIIqvZ2Zs/edit?pli=1New Milk:
> Still never made an apology video for slandering South Texas Dragons> Adopted another cat, a female tabby, that she claims she rescued from traffic and a storm after many of the residents in her apartment block had been feeding and caring for it (and got it microchipped and spayed apparently) for two years despite previously claiming that no one in her building knew anything about the cat> Allowed the "stray" to wander all over the apartment with all over animals, gorge on the other cats food, without any regard for the stress of the other animals, transmitting FIV, heartworm, other parasites etc, as would be common in actual strays, but it's okay because she "doesn't have fleas!"> In her last video, she actually rambles about the dangers of wild caught animals and the parasites they carry, is totally incapable of seeing the irony in her never quarantining her new (and sometimes wild caught) animals, including a 'stray' cat> Claimed her lease was up in September and was going to buy a house, never happened (apparently lease is extended to January)> Admits to live feeding, and knocking rodents out with blunt force instead of a CO2 chamber> Mushu has been shown without much gill feathering left recently shown much more clearly with facial scarring, even less feathering and stressed posturing> Kronos has been shown with excessive loose skin, appears stunted> Tate shown very dehydrated, with skin wrinkles that do not flatten with flexing> Claims she got the rats fixed, but still never separated any of them later saying in video that only the females were spayed, goose is intact> Killed her Pacman Frog with malnutrition due to poor diet, killed the crocodile skinks with dehydration, claimed she basically cooked them all to death with their heat lamps totes by accident> Attempted to purchase two new crocodile skinks on the down low before a smaller pettuber ratted on the cover-up of the deaths> Right after purchasing new crocodile skinks, a cat and milksnake within a two week period of killing her other animals, she begins to make jokes about her new rat snake being an ‘uncooked noodle’ and her hoarding on twitter> Mantis shrimp died months ago, as was speculated in previous threads> Zazu also died months ago, never bothered mentioning it, claims he died of "old age" at a quarter of his lifespan> Bindi's enclosure has been shown multiple times bare, with only aspen bedding and no hides, TND claimed it was due to "thinking she saw a mite" so it was being cleaned> The NY Mag interview was finally released, with TND inexplicably wearing lingerie during it, NY Mag doxxed TND accidently and the youtube upload was filled with negative comments> Claiming that she's one of the few pettubers that is actually up front with the accident and the issues they have, despite trying to continuous hide the deaths of her mantis shrimp, lionfish, skinks, pacman frog etc for weeks-months after they happened> More enclosures being shown with completely empty water dishes> Animals purchased in the last ~ month: Cat, Texas Rat Snake, Halloween Crab, 3 Rats, 2 Crocodile Skinks, Sinaloan Milksnake, scorpion No. 597753
>>597716'I wonder what happened.' 'Who wants to bet.'
I don't even know who this breezy fellow is, but yes, this is clearly self posting.
No. 597772
>>597759Some feedback:
You may want to have subtitles available. It is hard to understand you at times.
I would also highly recommend timestamps.
No. 597774
>>597759Slow down when you talk anon.
I know its difficult doing your first voiceovers.
No. 597777
>>597759Hey nonny, thanks for putting this video together! You got a lot of content in there. I'd second the notes about pacing (speak a little slower, and leave images up just a bit longer) - but for a novice effort this is excellent, and you've done well!
It might be a good idea to upload it to vimeo, too, or onto similar streaming video websites just so you have a mirror if/when Taylor's little army of 12s starts reporting your video maliciously.
No. 597778
>>597773It's a really good video anon.
I would agree though that you need to slow down. You have a lovely accent but Americans (majority of your audience) can't understand accents. Speaking more slowly will help them.
No. 597809
>>597793I sent her the video on Twitter, but I think that all that's gonna get me is a hoard of stans and a block on my alt account if anything.
>>597802Yeah I can see her going "wow people have no life, they make hate videos of me, thanks a lot lmao btw 5 more pets died, tell me I'm a great pet mom"
No. 597811
>>597717This might not be intentional, anon.
Several replies have been getting posted more than once.
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No. 597872
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No. 597873
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No. 597883
>>597878Being high distorts your sense of time
>>597873So she gets a pass for not glorifying it? And who the fuck thinks secondhand smoke is ok? "Not even common sense" It's fucking elementary shit.
No. 597888
>>597873it's called a necropsy you airhead.
she's such a cunt.
No. 597907
>>597873With the amount of traveling she does she should have no issue going to reptile rescues and adopting her snakes from there
I live in TX and there's no shortage of reptile rescues all over state. They're full of ball pythons (not just normals) and other animals that need homes
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And I bet you would know all about them deep and personally , huh Tay Tay? Or are you still playing the “sober” act.
No. 597919
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It's funny to me that she retweets this shit and talks about animals can't consent to being high, but our "animal expert" clearly has no knowledge of animals that intentionally get high (dolphins and cats are two examples)
No. 597922
>>597919as usual all she can do is make posts on twitter.
i work in a shelter where we've had to euth rabbits who people intentionally got high and as a result they hurt themselves. we've had other animals come in in similar conditions.
it's horrible and awful. maybe go do something about it. volunteer at a shelter and fucking humble yourself, taylor. you can post on twitter all you want, but it doesn't make ANY difference for the animals suffering in the world, from being forced to get high or abused.
No. 597935
>>597934Plus reptile rescues have a hard time existing because people don't think to get their animals from one, and then of course people like Taylor who could bring attention to those rescues and the idea of rescuing exotic animals refuse to.
Especially given the likelihood her animals are going to end up in a rescue someday before their lifespan is out, assuming she doesn't just kill them all, but I'm sure even if she did care she's not thinking that far ahead. She just wants to brag about owning a $10,000 snake because she thinks it'll get her more clicks than a "boring" old rescue snake.
No. 597947
>>597918She sounds like a teenager who just start smoking behind her parent’s back and needs to brag about it by giving her “expert knowledge” nobody asked for
You look really stupid every time you talk about drugs Taylor, drop it
No. 597963
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excuse the poor gif work but where did this come from???
No. 597971
>>597970Nah you can handle them, in fact when you're buying them you should check whether they're slightly warm to the touch and make sure they wiggle like that.
Basically impossible to tell what that is from the cacoon although my guess would be a commonly kept feeder species.
No. 597975
>>597963"If it lives"
I thought our animal jesus can take care of anything
No. 597985
>>597963tbh, i actually believe she "rescued" the 2 female rats (that we rarely get to see/get updates about) just to breed because right after getting them, she started to buy more small snakes that probably eat pinkies.
and with this new cocoon. probably just another feeder.. I wonder if she's gona start to breed those too like with her roaches
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No. 597994
>>597872>>597873“Lmao lmao lmao lol lol lmao”
She really doesn’t give a shit about any of the causes she tweets about, she just wants ass pats from her brainless army of teens. Her hypocrisy is just stunning. She tweets like she herself is in an extreme high from the drugs. Notice how she can’t form a simple, serious tweet having a conversation with someone who has genuine concerns and proof/examples of her hypocrisy without lots of “lmao”s and “lol”s. Just like the way she talks about her dead pets. She doesn’t give a shit. It’s sickening. “Adopt from shelters but buy all the reptiles you want” ok so owning 20+ snakes is ok and when your junkie ass along with your rapist by go broke it’s ok to dump all those animals at shelters?? When she goes broke and can’t take care of them I can totally see her just dumping them all at a shelter but then saying she “relocated them with a really good friend willing to take care of them!!” People are slowly starting to catch on to her bullshit and thank god for that.
No. 598010
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>>mocks someone for mixing up heroin and heroine
>>mocks someone for mixing up crack and heroin
>>she herself isn't sure what's in edibles for animals
>>TCH. lol
Taylor, it never pays to be a self righteous bitch. Maybe follow your own advice and don't talk about things if you don't know anything about them.
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Still no apology video. The least she could have done was publicly announce she was lying about who the breeder was after she got her rabid stans to leave terrible reviews.
No. 598032
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Her cats are literally allowed around ALL of her animals and free roam around the rat's cage that has open bars………..
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No. 598044
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Waaaaaa someone proved that I'm a hypocrite so I'm gonna blame my anxiety Waaaaaa.
No. 598054
>>598048I know. Or just say "I'm sorry I was incorrect", but with her she's always got a ridiculous excuse.
She seems to have this warped view that things are fine for her to do but not others.
It's okay for Tay's cats to hang around all her animals but god forbid anyone else lets their cats near their other animals!
Just like it's okay for Tay to buy 100 tortoises off the side of the road and dump them on a rescue but no one else should buy animals from the side of the road.
It's okay for Tay to buy a "bearded dragon with a broken tail in a tub full of malnutritioned dragons" but no one else should support bad breeders.
It's okay for Tay to buy a kitten from a backyard breeder but for everyone else backyard breeding is wrong.
It's okay for Tay to buy feeders as pets but not anyone else etc etc.
For the record I don't think you should do any of these things, it's just so ridiculous that she does so many things that she would tell others not to do.
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No. 598060
>>598010>IT'S HEROIN NOT HEROINE REEEE>TCHFucking lel
Also leave it up to Taylor, the drug expert. Why try to flaunt your knowledge about drugs? Fucking idiot.
>>598044Then her outing
herself about her hedgehog before anyone could even say it is hilarious. God Taylor take a break from the internet ffs.
>>598055When you have so little awareness about anything that you repeatedly end up shading your own daughter
They are all such a garbage fire. So glad she was moved to /pt/
No. 598061
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Of course it's not her fault the cats were in her animal room for the interview!
No. 598064
>>598061So fucking what. Even if this is true, it's HER responsibility to explain the dangers. It's HER responsibility to do what's appropriate.
That's implying that they asked and she said yes. Mental fucking gymnastics that she takes absolutely no responsibility. Shifting blame is her main hobby at this point.
No. 598066
>>598061"I never put them side by side" Taylor..theres literally a picture with your cat and hedgie together that you even replied to
Doesn't matter if you're watching them, it takes less than a second for Ghost to scratch, at least the turtle in the other picture has a hard shell and thick skin if anything were to happen.
A cat scratch is so much more dangerous to a hedgehog than a turtle lol
No. 598069
>>598068Exactly, she could have just said no
Its her fault for allowing it
No. 598070
>>598032How is she gonna preach about bacteria when she has all of her animals all over all of her furniture and lord knows she never cleans….
Hell, isn’t there a picture of Nemo in an enclosure?? Taylor, the bacteria!!!!!
No. 598086
>>597872not saying that secondhand marijuana smoke killed her satanic leaf geckos but we haven't seen them in a long time. She shows their enclosure but they could be dead too for all we know.
Also, this is total tinfoil but I think she bought goose as a pet, not a feeder and came up with an elaborate backstory to minimize the amount of concern regarding her purchasing yet another animal. Then, when people started telling her she needed more rats it was a perfect excuse for her to go purchase more.
No. 598120
>>598088She 100% got him from a feeder breeder. Some feeder breeders do care about the health/temperament of their rats and start out breeding for food but will also have a 'pet project' when they have rats with more interesting colours or markings.
There is absolutely no feasible way she got a 2-week old rat off of a legit pet breeder. They aren't even weaned until 3.5-4 weeks and even then the earliest I've seen breeders let babies go is 5 weeks. Many keep them longer so they can be properly socialized with older rats.
So the only way she got Goose is telling the breeder he was going to be a feeder and then just ended up keeping him. Because she has no fucking patience to wait until animals are actually ready to be rehomed (kittens for example) and she has a hero complex.
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Mama Dean back at it again. We know you read here, Jen.
No. 598147
>>598059hey dont say stuff you know nothing about anon lmao
i wouldnt risk having a cat around any kind of small animal pet
mushu is gonna die next calling it now. then her satanics probably. i feel like once mushu dies, tay is gonna use it to step away from aquatics because they're more finicky than most bugs.
i wonder if shes gonna get into peedes
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Dumbass. You only have 2 kids…you’re listing 3 things. You make no sense. Go look after tanner and stay off of social media!
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>>598189Never mind the bitch copied this from the retweet @magnoliahawks did…the girl she’s harassing
>>598144 No. 598204
>>598200it's kinda a meme rn though so might not necessarily be copying
cringe nonetheless
No. 598211
>>598204Yeah it's based on an Ariana Grande song, but still Jen fucked it up because you need 3 things, not 2.
Honestly no wonder Taylor cut her out for a while. Imagine your mom wk'ing you on twitter all the time.
She's so overbearing.
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No. 598229
>>598212she's probably one of those spergs that thinks she's having a panic attack when really she's just throwing a tantrum.
people are mean to you on the internet? boo hoo.
No. 598242
>>598167The sad thing is given her saviour complex she’s get one and claim it came from an abusive home, which on its own is a problem because she wouldn’t be ready for a standard bird let alone one with trust issues and possible plucking problems.
The other sad thing is we’d easily be able to tell if she’s neglecting a bird given how vocal they are…
No. 598243
>>598167The sad thing is given her saviour complex she’s get one and claim it came from an abusive home, which on its own is a problem because she wouldn’t be ready for a standard bird let alone one with trust issues and possible plucking problems.
The other sad thing is we’d easily be able to tell if she’s neglecting a bird given how vocal they are…
No. 598247
>>598167The sad thing is given her saviour complex she’s get one and claim it came from an abusive home, which on its own is a problem because she wouldn’t be ready for a standard bird let alone one with trust issues and possible plucking problems.
The other sad thing is we’d easily be able to tell if she’s neglecting a bird given how vocal they are…
Sorry if this double posts the site was glitching out
No. 598270
>>598259God birds don’t even need trauma to bite, not sure about other conures but I have a sun conure who loves to rough house and also nip when he wants kisses or attention.
Birds would ruin her
No. 598293
>>598286can you use the Youtube field and link it here.
spiders give me the willies so I could only look at this channel page so long.
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>>598270>birds would ruin herIdk man, a bite from a hormonal green cheek seems to be just the look she goes for.
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When your fans care more about their animals during a blackout than you
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I don't know if any of you guys follow Breezexotics, there was a mention of her higher up in the thread of possible self posting so there's a chance she lurks here but I checked her out and noticed she posted this along with a few other messages to her story. It seems like they are directed at Taylor and she might be close to coming forward about her lies. All just speculation but it's probable
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>>598239Best thing I've seen lately.
>>598272Panic attack and anxiety are her go-to's for every time she gets called out.
No. 598354
hope she DOESN'T get a parrot or any other type of bird. They're so intelligent and if owned by a person like Taylor, they'll end up plucking themselves to death.
>>598341she should just say it. her channel is tiny so what's there to lose? hell, this might just boost her channel with other pet tubers who are actually legit when it comes to animal care.
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No. 598376
>>598365ew holy shit
i dont understand how a guy like this acts so
hard and cocky
he’s so fuckin ugly lmaoo
No. 598386
>>598377This plus also was going to say didn't she also say that he picks at his forehead or something
Looks like he also has acne though so hard to tell. Either way, gross. Can't believe she settled for this guy when she could have had someone who is not so washed up.
No. 598422
>>598417I don't think so. Did she even show the scorpion or was that just Jonny? It's hard to keep track anymore with all her recent purchases.
Hoping it doesn't fuck up this time posting.
No. 598437
>>598436yeah, the fuck are these anons on about. i remember there being discussions about how we hoped she didn't get rats. lo and behold, the bitch has rats.
we can discuss whatever we want as long as it's on topic and the likelihood of taylor getting a bird just to prove the "haturz" wrong is very high.
No. 598455
>>598451It's not like they know which anon is Taylor. They only outed Emzotic because Emzotic outed herself and then refused to follow lolcow rules.
For Taylor to be outed she'd have to out herself here, which isn't gonna happen anytime soon because of what happened with Em.
No. 598458
>>598455And you know that'll never happen because Taylor is a ninny and cannot take criticism or any responsibility for her actions.
I suppose she might do it for aTtEnShUn but IDK if she'd have the guts for a real time back and forth with people who aren't kissing her ass. Especially since she can't block us, lol.
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Track marks on crocodile tattoo?
No. 598489
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insane blowout brought to you by the line god romeo lacoste himself!! imagine how bad her match and tree tattoo look
No. 598494
>>598479That, mites or one of her cats got fleas.
Star is an ex outdoor cat so it could be possible she got out and brought back some fleas
No. 598496
>>598489all her tattoos look horrible, nothing new there lol.
>>598494Reminds me of my cousin who owns an indoor cat that got fleas out of nowhere. imagine the infestations with 3 cats and a lazy-always-asleep owner?
No. 598499
>>598479Her sudden tattoo collecting is comparable to the amount of snake purchases.
I don't know how anyone doesn't see the two as warning signs.
No. 598542
>>598538New corals maybe? They can be pricey. Food and salt and ro/di system costs add up, but no one would buy enough of that at once to hit $2,000. I guess she could be replacing equipment like heaters, lights, or filters too, though idk why.
It's not hard to spend that much on fish, but she already has that thing well overstocked so I hope that's not it. Or, totally tinfoiling, but it's also easy to spend that much replacing dead fish too if she needs to do that before anyone notices who is missing in that tank.
No. 598544
>>598530“It makes me so uncomfortable talking about how much money I make/spend”
Suuuuure Jan. You know it’s bad when literally every single thing she does/says/shows has a hypocritical point to it for things she’s said before.
People won’t be supporting this lazy ass crackhead in years from now. She better soak in being able to have/spend this kind of money while she can.
No. 598595
>>598530It's honestly so telling that she equates good animal care with the amount of money she spends on her pets.
What use does a 2k tank have if you're not going to stock it properly? Same goes for her reptile enclosures.
She loved to boast about how they were customized and super expensive, but they're subpar.
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Seems like her stans have found the video linked on the last thread - for the number of dislikes that have suddenly appeared there's an astounding lack of comments, though what is there perfectly sums up her fanbase.
No. 598700
>>598693I was thinking the same thing, it suddenly went up overnight and yet the comments on it are nowhere near as prevalent as they are on other videos critical of her. For 350~ more dislikes, I'd expect the comment section to be filled.
I'm sure some are genuine but I feel the majority are probably fake, and a quick google shows that it's (theoretically) possible to buy them, would we really be surprised if she was that petty? lol - she probably just doesn't want her stans to see a well-structured argument as to why she isn't a hip and cool pet mom. I'd love to see the stats to see if we're right.
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Her stans can’t even make valid arguments. They obviously don’t care about her animals and will probably eat up anything she says. Like come on, just because she says she takes good care of her animals doesn’t mean it’s true, when will an abusive person ever admit to being abusive?
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“50 isn’t that many pets and I didn’t see any screenshot evidence in this video so your opinion is invalide”
Didn’t wanna tag it mostly cause I’m just taking the piss but, to the text wall Stan, punctuation is your friend and no, ridiculous is not spelt right
No. 598713
>>598700I checked the stats but it's still at 3 dislikes and ~150 likes. I'm gonna check back later to see what happens. Does someone know if I can get more detailed stats (actual time rather than just day like on socialblade)?
>>598708Thank you!
No. 598733
>>598713All I can think is that perhaps YouTube thinks it's a bit suspicious themselves, but I'm at a loss as to how we can see it then. I did some looking around and can't find anything, but another anon could know.
I've been watching the comments since it got hit by dislikes, and you're doing an awesome job at responding to her stans with facts despite how stupid their arguments are (although I have to admit it's kind of funny how they think all is well and good, like, aren't half her animals stunted from malnutrition and neglect at this stage?)
No. 598734
>>598733I also could've sworn that the video was at almost 4k views when I woke up this morning but now it's at 1.2k for me. It's much more realistic for it to be at 1.2k but what's with the drop? So weird.
And thanks, I'd like to talk to people about it but so far only 2 of Taylors fans have been intelligible enough to even respond to lol
No. 598744
>>598695Savannah monitors are like 25$ and always end up in rescues since they're 99% of the time looked after wrong and die before they reach the age of one
>>598738Maybe if mushu is lucky she did buy him a chiller with all of the rest of the 2k purchase. Unlikely but we can hope I guess
No. 598826
>>598821Got a good crystal ball going there, eh?
Also, if the "toxicity" is too much for you, you can just fuck off, ya shitwaffle. No one's forcing you to stay on this site.
No. 598859
>>598854It's not about money, it never has been. Taylor just doesn't care and/or believes her way is the right way. She refuses to take criticism or accept that her care is somehow wrong, even it means her animals suffer. She HAS to be right and that's why she blocks people who try to help her or tell her she's doing something wrong. It's so she can live in her echo chamber of stans telling her she's amazing, her animals are happy, she's the best pet mom ever.
Which is sad because it's becoming clear that she thinks how much money she spends equates to quality of care.
No. 598860
>>598854It's not about money, it never has been. Taylor just doesn't care and/or believes her way is the right way. She refuses to take criticism or accept that her care is somehow wrong, even it means her animals suffer. She HAS to be right and that's why she blocks people who try to help her or tell her she's doing something wrong. It's so she can live in her echo chamber of stans telling her she's amazing, her animals are happy, she's the best pet mom ever.
Which is sad because it's becoming clear that she thinks how much money she spends equates to quality of care.
No. 598881
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Sorry to everyone that doesn't care about this, but Youtube fixed the dislike amount. So there really was some weird shit involved.
When I checked the general stats like 4k views apparently came from places like Russia and Croatia.
So someone apparently really did buy dislikes. I'm flattered lol
No. 598893
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Wow, the stans comments on the video are literally all written from little kids. I didn't realize she had such a young audience, that's both shocking and worrying.
No. 598901
>>598895>>598897>>598898Thanks guys, I'll upload the first video tonight then.
Should I post it here? Also please give me feedback + tell me if I forget anything for now.
No. 598904
>>598902I currently have over 8mins lol
She makes this too easy
No. 598906
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This person is fucking insane, lying about how they got a kitten and raising it to adulthood is not a redeeming factor especially since the kitten was most likely not weaned when she bought it.
No. 598910
File: 1542158189375.png (25.87 KB, 1139x190, leo.PNG)
>>598881did you see this reply from leopard gecko? this video is gaining traction. great video anon, thanks!
No. 598912
>>598890In the next few weeks she's gonna post a big sob story about her I can almost see it.
"Mushu was looking sick, and I took her to the vet. They couldn't find out what was wrong, and unfortunately she died. They said I took perfect care of her, and I did everything right and there's no way I could have made a single mistake. They said Mushu probably just died of old age, because she was 7 years old and axotols are only suppose to live for about 2 weeks, so to anyone saying I neglected her, you're wrong lol. The vet said it was amazing that I cared for her for so long even though I bought her from a bad breeder. So I'm fairly confident that I gave her the best life in those 5 years lol. I didn't want to say anything because im really tore up about and I knew I would get a lot of hate. People are going to accuse me of being a hoarder even though I only have 70 pets and they're all THRIVING lmao. I just lost a beloved pet that's been with me for 5 years so please just leave me alone."
She'll mope about the hate for a bit and then post a pic of her new purchase crawling on her titty, and the cycle repeats.
No. 598913
>>598911YUP
I have soooo many screenshots. Is it the one about BHB reptiles and her sorority tanks? It's funny bc I actually worked at a pet store and happen to know some shit about reptiles +aquatics
I actually included MUSHU LMAO
No. 598915
>>598913It might be that one actually yeah
I’m one phone but I just found this
https://taylordeantea.tumblr.com/ don’t know if anything on here will be of help
No. 598923
>>598918Same with yandere-dev, actually with his slow progress updates more callout videos make it to people’s recommendations so imagine how Taylor will go given her upload rate.
Honestly I’m glad anon made this video, I’ve been to terrified to do things cause of the crazy stans but seeing this fallout being more successful than previous ones is giving me hope
No. 598938
>>598930I'd recommend some further visual stimulation, at the very least just for the thumbnail.
Other than that well done! The way you pronounced "motto" tho. Got me
triggered.
No. 598952
>>598941They're just assholes who use an illness to justify it and use as a defense. Even if they suffer with anxiety, it's still no excuse to be a dick or an animal hoarder.
It's annoying how Taylor uses her "panic attacks" (tantrums) and "anxiety" (laziness) as excuses for nearly everything.
No. 598965
>>598964It’s more the tags and views, the more views it gets the tags will cause it to show up in the feeds of people who watch her channel.
ALTHOUGH, new videos I think take priority? And since she hasn’t uploaded they might show up.
No. 598969
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Didn’t this person do a rant about her monitor? Or was it someone else?
I remember someone doing a rant about the impulse buy and how taytay wasn’t ready for it, her stans flooded the comments @ the video to their queen so.
No. 598971
File: 1542171495391.jpeg (35.5 KB, 778x243, stans 1.jpeg)
>>598968Thanks! I'll upload, despite my anxiety, in a week. Unlike Taylor, I have a trained service animal and I'll be talking about that then (among other things.)
Also look at this stan
No. 598972
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>>598966Not sure if you’re in the process of uploading but here you go anon
No. 598973
>>598971>there sick>mentoly stimulatesSounds like a typical fan of hers. They can't even spell basic words much less be educated on how to take care of exotic animals so they won't question her care.
>>598972>I've been watching Animal Planet since I was a little kid!Fixed it.
No. 598979
File: 1542171625437.jpeg (107.7 KB, 876x416, imagine.jpeg)
Imagine being so far your own ass you take a critique on your opinion on someone else as an attack on you. Also no one called this stan a "monster"
No. 598981
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>>598928It's literally just fan art pasted onto some generic shirts, etc. Did she request some seasonal fan art or something?
Bets on whether the mouse in the picture is Pigeon or Dove.
No. 598983
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I can understand the kitten thing being assumption cause in the end no one can confirm or deny that’s what happened (even though it’s largly leaning to being bought)
But what???
No. 598996
>>598990Some of it will be hard to find cause she started in the general pettubers thread before getting her own so some crucial stuff will probably be buried in there.
I'll do my best for you guys, Though I may have to update the doc every now and again with new info when I find it since it might take me some time to dig.
No. 599000
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She claims to have a chiller now? But she conveniently doesn’t use it? Sure, Jan.
No. 599003
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when's she gonna stop using that "abuse!!! " joke
No. 599004
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Fuck your reptiles though, leave them with their bone dry bowls as usual.
No. 599008
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IjJYdkBluMwczxqkvd_p1189FSY4MHZeLlfPoEY_GpM/edit?usp=sharingI probably should wait till I finish it a bit more but there's a lot of stuff to work with.
I'm still going through all the threads and her youtube videos and I still also need to add a section on Jonny.
Let me know if it sounds ok and is helpful in anyway.
No. 599015
File: 1542183150729.jpeg (104.92 KB, 442x523, hmmm.jpeg)
We were just talking about anxiety?
No. 599016
>>599008Looks good! I think adding something about her supposed "animal caretaker experts" would be good though since her stans will be quick to insist she has three amazing caretakers that are there three times a day!!
>>599015Also anxiety is way different from OCD. Did she just add in the OCD stuff to seem like she wasn't specifically talking about us? Didn't work.
No. 599017
>>599016Oh yes good idea.
I will when I get to the first mentions on them cause I don't think they started appearing until the 18th or 19th thread.
No. 599024
File: 1542186692436.webm (8.16 MB, 960x1280, Taylor texts scroll video.webm)
Guys please include this scrolling video! This is irrefutable evidence that the dm's are real. If stans come out and say these are fake then they're a lost cause lol
No. 599029
>>598969Yeee it was her.
I think we all concluded that she was in it for the views at the end and now that people are getting support and views for speaking out she probably regrets it.
No. 599032
>>599024need to take a break cause wow digging through threads on her bullshit is taxing but I added the static link to the google doc.
Thanks for the share anon
No. 599037
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I was looking through Emma Sampson's new vlog of reptile expos and this snake was at one in Nova Scotia, isn't that a snake that Taylor mentioned getting or wanting? I completely forgot about it until I saw it in the video, I can't remember any details and don't have time to go through the threads to find out but I wanted to post it here in case Emma takes the video down.
No. 599041
>>599038I feel like that'd be a really tall order - and I kind of like the ideas posted here about doing videos about separate topics so the message really gets out there. If there's multiple videos about different topics, then it's not just "well everyone has a pet die sometimes lmao circle of life lol" brush-off.
Of course, if someone has the energy to make a chronological docuseries, I'm not stopping ya! LOL
Might even be interesting to see a separate video on Johnny because boy is there a lot of shit in that well.
No. 599045
>>598930This is quite nitpicky so feel free to disregard but you pronounce a lot of words incorrectly - motto for eg, and also misread things a couple of times. it's like a spelling error or something like that, it makes you come across as generally less credible when you get small things wrong.
Your narration is otherwise nice and engaging, pleasant to listen to.
No. 599061
>>599059I'll take them for the google doc, if possible could you do what
>>599060 said as it'll make it easier to link and read.
No. 599081
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Her "be find to animals" with flames is ironic considering she just cooked some of her animals after sleeping and ignoring them for 12+ hours.
No. 599083
>>599081I don't usually like ripping on her looks, but her "I am ready to jump!" lower lashes made me laugh for some reason.
And that duckface, gurl. And that highlighter… ahaha. You tried.
No. 599092
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No. 599099
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Why does she always act like buying a house takes 1 week? She keeps saying her lease is up soon and she is searching for a house.
Girl, if your lease is up in January then you should already be in the process of BUYING one, not just looking.
No. 599109
>>599104It's not really funny to me, but it's obvious she can't imagine her fortunes ever changing - she just has to have that luxury apartment in a mall, because that's her ~~ dream apartment ~~ or whatever. She strikes me as someone who's never had to do without or manage her own finances long term, and it's like she can't conceive that that Youtube moneyz won't last forever and that she's taken in pets with long lifespans she has a duty to provide for in the coming years and decades. It's not funny to me that despite her having a lot of money to throw around now she's not putting that money towards keeping her pets healthy and happy but just buying more and more and more. She's gonna crash and burn and her animals are going to suffer the most due to it.
Girlfriend needs to get her head out of her ass and put on her big girl panties pronto. If she thinks she can swing a house in two months, she should have been talking about financing it and its renovations around fucking April, not almost December. Time flies when you're high!
No. 599114
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Need to figure out which clownfish cause she's had several morphs, but good to know yet ANOTHER fish suicide jumped.
Would've thought by now she's learn't fish jump…
No. 599119
>>599116SHE DID!
I actually have her channel open and know the exact video she says that in, it was funnily enough the one about the ich incident.
Couldn't link in the youtube field with the time but it's said starting at 10:47
No. 599121
>>599081I feel like she's acting like Twisty's licking her face because he loves her…. but bearded dragons are curious creatures, and the way they explore things is by licking them. They lick their decor, they lick their substrate (which is how they ingest sand if kept on sand which isn't a good idea), they lick their vivarium, they lick their basking rock, they lick anything they're wondering about. That's just wht they do.
You're not special Taylor, get a grip.
No. 599123
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>>599119That’s an angel fish!
And also, the post I was thinking of turned out to be a squirrel fish.
So what clown fish did she end up getting rid of? I’m not sure if I’m misremembering but we’re clownfish in Zazus tank or was it just Larry? How did she forget about getting rid of the angel fish and the squirrel fish (especially since she just got rid of the squirrel fish in September)? Oh yeah, she has too many animals.
No. 599128
>>599123If my memory of the timeline serves me correctly, when she first got the biocube she put 2 regular clownfish in it, I think she moved them to her 150 tank when she got it (or these were new clownfish no one noticed she replaced)
She then put a maroon clownfish in after she turned it into a predator tank.
I believe her Kamohara Blenny was also in this tank before being moved.
Thanks anon I didn't know I could do that lol.
No. 599130
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She's obsessed with posting "quirky" photos of her pets. The ones with Tofu posturing make me mad, because he's obviously stressed in those photos.
It doesn't look like Toast (?) Is doing the same thing, but why would his mouth be open? Maybe she caught him before a yawn?
No. 599131
>>599128What ever happened to the longfin clownfish she had?
And why would she put a pair in with the cow clownfish wouldn’t they attack each other? I remember seeing the maroon one with the anemone and now her cow clowns are hosting on that anemone….
No. 599132
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>>599131she got rid of them cause she didn't like them
No. 599150
>>599147It also looks pretty new, and they're letting their snake near it?
Guess this person learned proper tattoo hygeine from Taylor too.
No. 599218
>>599008This is awesome, great job!
>>599016>>599017I actually have a bunch of stuff I could contribute. I went through the first 18 threads about 1.5 months ago for info on the "assistants" as well as anytime she mentions sleeping all day or her house being a wreck despite claiming people clean for her.
They originally thanked his drug dealer for caring for the pets, then she started mentioning "assistants" in #4.
No. 599222
>>599167Yes I own a KSB whos around the same age as toast and I’ve never seen him open his mouth unless he’s striking or yawning and he only yawns right after he eats. I have never seen a photo of a KSB with their mouth open unless they are yawning. And if she is holding him so soon after eating she is probably stressing him tf out and risking regurgitation. Personally I think it is most likely an RI. I would say caused by too high humidity from being in a rack. I’ve never really heard of anyone keeping KSBs in racks because their humidity requirements are so low and racks tend to have really high humidity. KSBs are one of the few snakes where a tank is the preferred enclosure
Would sage if I could for snake talk.
No. 599247
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Yeah this is her merch. Super boring. Cant even tell what the first cheese one says in the middle. Nothing about it shows personality of any of the animals, but i guess if tay doesn’t spend enough time getting to know any of her animals how could any of the fans who made all her shit know about them either.
No. 599282
>>599281Cheese shirts:
"I wish to be safe this Christmas"
"Merry Fishmas"
No. 599283
>>599282She's still doing that "I am never safe" joke? I haven't been watching her videos (skipping through at nost) but I don't think she has featured any of her pets with those speech bubbles in a loooong time.
Which is a shame because that was kind of cute and quirky. Guess you can't give your pets characters when you have 50 different ones you never spend time with
No. 599284
>>599283She personally hasn't. But it was something that stuck with her fan, thus why it's on there, I guess.
I used to look forward to that kind of editing myself, but I guess since it's a hassle to even record/edit/publish a video of her talking…say good bye to those sort of days.
No. 599294
>>599247This merch is ugly. If I was a fan and was waiting for some merch and this is what was delivered I'd be severely disappointed. For that price I'd be expecting so much more. The art is cute, but it doesn't really scream "TND" and the print is so small on the shirt too. Like that Nala one? What is that, a print for ants?
The only thing that's even remotely cute is the Nala plush and it doesn't seem to be selling well if it's at 50% off…
No. 599321
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Said she was up all night filming. Maybe we'll get to see that video next year
No. 599337
>>599099I can so see her trying to impulse buy a house the way she impulse buys pets. "I've been wanting a house just like this forever and I've done ALL the research and I'm so excited to finally have one it's exactly what I always wanted!" and then when she buys a piece of crap and shows it in a video people immediately criticize her for issues in the house like mold or pipes that burst and flood or whatnot because she did not go about getting it checked properly. It'll all be the breeder, I mean real estate agent's, fault. "I just didn't know and I should have trusted my instincts but everyone else said it would be okay and there was nothing I could have done guize!"
>>599104 You're right financially speaking, but what kind of house that she rents will let her have that many animals? I'm having minor issues with rental houses right now and I have 1/10th the animals she does. But I do have 8 fish tanks and like to foster animals on top of the cats I already have, and if they can get away with denying it landlords don't want to take risks your animals will destroy the house.
>>599133 fish anon here, it's not super abnormal for people to rehome fish that don't work out in their tanks, especially due to aggression. They're not generally animals that bond with their owner, so as long as they're moved properly the risk for them is small. But Taylor does it with so little care for giving up the fish (why buy a fish you don't really want in the first place?) and the fact that she never tells us they're rehomed until asked repeatedly makes me think she just killed them.
No. 599348
>>599337I can see her doing this with a house. I mean if she's looking for houses, then good for her. But she seems to have this very naive idea of the process and it's not like Jonny is going to be of any help. He just wants his sugar mamma to buy him a McMansion so he can flex on Twitter. Buying a house is ideal for her situation as renting can be tricky with the amount of animals she has… not to mention with a house, landlords would be more strict on tidiness too. So a house is better, but history will repeat itself. She'll buy an overpriced house in an overpriced area and not think of her animals.
I agree as well with your point about fish. If you adopt a dog and have an existing dog and as much as you try, they don't get along… you normally rehome the new dog, as much as it sucks. However since Taylor doesn't mention rehoming until months later when people ask, chances are it's dead.
No. 599461
>>599362Seriously, CA anon here and housing is suuuper expensive here - but looking at house prices in San Antonio, there is no excuse for her not buying a house instead of renting. She spends thousands of dollars on not just her 50 pets, but on her broken Cartier bracelet, her manlet’s video games and systems, her tattoos, etc.
Not to mention, like this anon said there is a $75k house you could get with a typical 20% down payment of $15k. However idk about out of state programs, but there are FHA loans for first time home buyers where you can get a house for only 3.5% down. If she bought a $75k home that’s literally less than a $3k down payment! Her bracelet could have paid double that lmao
Does anyone think she has been smart enough to build credit? Having little to no credit can be a big issue for buying a home, then they will weigh the last few years of your income more heavily.
No. 599481
>>599461She spends more than saving. To be honest I don’t think banks will want to loan to someone that not only impulsively buys animals and other things but someone who’s only source of income is through social media.
Her schedule is way to irregular for it to be credible also.
No. 599503
>>599481That's the thing that baffles me - she has got an incredibly easy, non-demanding job to work on her own schedule, and she can't be bothered to do it more than twice a month. She's literally got so many animals with a ton of personality she could feature, like one per video, and she would not run out of content any time soon. She's got a blue-tongued skink, one of the most entertaining, fun lizard species, and a beardie, and cresties – literally put Bindi on the floor and let her chase some crickets. That's entertaining as fuck, and would easily rake in views in the thousands… but nope. It wouldn't require much creativity on her part at all, just the willingness to get it done.
No. 599577
>>599556But she’s not consistent and her spending habits are atrocious.
>>599522It might vary by area but I live in Texas and my parents who employ themselves had to jump through hoops for almost a year to get financed to purchase their most recent home. 40% down, too.
No. 599580
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You mean like… not moving in with someone 3 months after first tweeting them right?
No. 599803
File: 1542351055316.png (283.95 KB, 2518x1228, DBMisBestAlbum.png)
Lol, hadn't seen this, I love 2006-2012 era Dance Gavin Dance.
Jonny is a terrible person that attracts terrible people. He's def abusive, but Chelsea is far from perfect.
No. 599847
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No. 599849
File: 1542359090879.png (696.71 KB, 925x590, Screenshot 2018-11-16 at 10.03…)
looks like she has reached the "facetune to hell and back" stage of her progressing public breakdown
No. 599851
>>599847Well, good for her if she's actually getting some work in. Seriously.
All I see is the smile not reaching her eyes and that matted hair.
No. 599852
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>lived his full life
>love him so much (twice)
>old age
>look what a nice thing i did for him (i FED him. wow best pet mom)
>oh btw already got a new one lol
classic taylor death announcement
(not insinuating she killed the bug or sth….it's a bug after all)
No. 599853
File: 1542359457388.jpg (36.33 KB, 940x940, 29564-02.jpg)
>>599849Homegirl be looking like a literal sex doll lmao
No. 599855
>>599852Shouldn't she have been giving him flies the whole time?
Also, I don't doubt at all that he died a month or so ago and she's just talking about it now, like she usually does when her pets die. Bit of a coincidence she didn't take any recent photos of him.
No. 599862
File: 1542361059122.png (175.8 KB, 750x1334, image.png)
She says she wishes she'd done more content with egg, but..why didn't she?? She's had him since June. That's plenty of time to do tons of videos about him and every other pet she still has
No. 599902
>>599896Don't stare directly at it anon, you'll be cursed.
But yeah as
>>599897 said, pretty sure that's what the motivation behind the pitbull video was. Give it a few days, I'm sure something will come out from the California fires and suddenly that will be her new big thing.>>599896
No. 599904
>>599847The stupidity in the comments isn't even surprising at this point.
>>599852Weren't we just discussing this guy? Typical Tay posting about him just as soon as she thinks we've forgotten and moved on to the next topic.
Honestly it was time for the mantis to go based on his life expectancy, but holy shit she really likes to pile on HE LIVED HIS FULL LIFE and I LOVE HIM SO MUCH while in the next sentence saying she already got a new one but oh no, totally not disregarding his death.
It's a bug, but man I've never known anyone to announce a new pet in the same bloody post as announcing the death of one - one that you apparently just love sooooo much.
No. 599912
>>599904He lived a little longer than most male orchids tbh, and glad she switched over to bluebottles in the end.
>>599909When I was really into breeding mantises it was common practice to offload males at an overpriced rate onto people who only bought one mantis at a time because they're not breeders and they're a drain on the hobby. I only need like three males to mate all my females, but females produce eggs so I need to keep as many as possible. She wont get a female of any desirable species with her rep and not being a breeder. Insect circles are quite cliquey.
No. 599916
>>599914Even if he didn't, it's not that big a deal. Male mantises die really quickly once they're adults, I've had males that only lasted four weeks whilst the females lived for four months. Mis-moulting is the best indicator of bad husbandry, not lifespan and he completed his most difficult moult fine, no falling, sticking or malformed wings.
We also don't know how hot he was kept or how often he was fed, both of which dramatically speed up how quickly insects die. Bad care i.e. - not feeding them enough and keeping them too cold actually make them live for much longer. It's really common practice to do this to males if they moult to adult before your females because they'll die or stop producing sperm before your females are ready to mate otherwise.
No. 599933
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It’s totally not because that’s the only videos of her’s that do really well and she’s running out of money or anything.
No. 599940
>>599933Look out for Taylors new vid:
All my pets, a hoarders journey
No. 599946
>>599912Why are males a drain on the hobby?
I think some people may not be aware on why she wants a female so it would be nice to see the attitude with a bit more info.
No. 599986
>>599842Sorry, just had to post a DGD meme I had.
And I did say Jonny was terrible, and I know he is far from a good bf. I was just saying Chelsea was an equally shitty person who got exactly what she signed up for, then cried for attention when she did
No. 599989
>>599967It wasn't a legit question it was a
>Ha! gotcha Taylor! Caught in you in a stupid lie lmao explain this oneDon't do that shit if you don't know what you're talking about, that should be obvious
No. 599991
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I guess it’s being sober if you’re just drinking beer…
No. 599992
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>>599993"until we spin out of here"?
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No. 600066
>>600049Lmao his abusiveness is so fucking textbook. Imagine being publicly guilted every time you go out without your rapist BF but then later on twitter sperging about how ~goals~ you both are.
You know, for as much as they love to love bomb each other on social media, is it kind of weird that they NEVER (I know they have a few times, it’s super rare) show pictures of them together on social media? You would think since they love acting like they’re ~goals~ to the audience, they would show how “uwu cute we are!!”. Honestly they are so miserable together it’s almost funny lol. This is what Taylor really knowingly signed up for. Gross… then again his appearance is just appallingly disgusting and even she knows it, so she wouldn’t be proud to show his face too much.
No. 600071
>>600066Yes exactly. In the beginning she sometimes showed him off but he hasn't made a single "by the way this is my boyfriend Jonny" appearance on her channel. You'd think that if you live with someone and they're home 24/7 you'd see their SO more often (like with Jenna Marbles or Shane' boyfriends).
I think the last time she posted him on instagram was like 4 months ago.
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Even though Taylor neglects her animals lol okay
No. 600081
>>600075Of course, I was more just dropping the info for context. It's becoming more readily available which is a sidenote, though I agree with
>>600077 that it just could be cider.
No. 600166
>>600156do you know where you are? these threads are to discuss anything that has to do with Taylor, Johnny, or Mama Dean. it's not a place where you get to decide what's "worthy" of being discussed, anything on topic is fair game.
and it's really not nitpicky to discuss her drinking. she has repeatedly claimed that both she and Johnny are sober when they clearly aren't, and it's worth pointing out proof that she's lying. Like the fact that he just shaved his whole face, was wearing sunglasses indoors, and captioned the pic "clean af" which was clearly supposed to be an in-joke.
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No. 600202
>>600200RUH ROH
I mean, I'm not straight-up wishing sadness on her. but do you think this is an animal crisis or a jonny crisis?
No. 600221
>>600216Even if it were a more prominent animal, I would think she would take her time to let even an inkling of news.
I would bet it's family, in which case, I'm hoping things end up alright.
No. 600229
>>600221maybe you're right. anon posted here 8 hours ago about Mama Dean deleting her twitters, and Taylor was still acting normal on twitter up until about 7 hours ago. not sure when Jen deleted, or why, but it took a few hours at least for it to affect Taylor. just compiling information, not sure what any of it means yet since we don't know what's happened.
>>600222I'm not fully convinced Jen deleting is related to this emergency. it very well could be, but no way to be sure until we find out more. though like
>>600221 said, I hope Jen is okay, for Tanner's sake as well as her own.
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Jonny has face pickings. 2 for sure, the one in red might be a tattoo? Or a giant scab? Not sure, his face is so fucked with all the trashy tattoos.
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No. 600453
>>600451Yup it's about Cheese.
Why did he deserve a crying video but not her other pets?
No. 600464
>>600456Body language interpretation is bullshit 95% of the time. Sure, sometimes you can tell interesting things from body language, but it's not as reliable as most people pretend it is. The ways culture, mental/neurological disorders, and even just personal habits affect expressions and behavior throw wrenches into those "analyses" all the time.
I think it's clear she's upset here. But there's no way of knowing whether that's because she really liked Cheese (because he garnered her so much attention) or because she's afraid things are spiraling out of control and people might start questioning her care.
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>>600458“LMAO” … such devastation.
No. 600470
>>600468It was probably both. Cowfish are scaleless so they get much more effected by medication than other fish.
I can't believe she just dropped in some medication for algae. It's ugly but usually it has an underlying problem that you need to fix instead of dropping magnesium or fungus meds in.
I don't know about corals/anenomes but it does nothing to fish, so I don't understand why she said she did the treatment for her fish?.
No. 600478
>>600451>>600453Because he's probably a significant reason most of her followers keep up with her. She's promising more videos on him in memorial, she mentioned it more than once, so she obviously knows this and doesn't want to lose followers who just want to see Cheese.
Well anyway, can't believe I watched that whole video, but for anyone who doesn't want to here are the highlights:
>Spends like 6 minutes rambling about how distraught she is. Doesn't even tell us Cheese died until minutes into the video, just goes on about pets and dying.
>Keeps repeating "I don't know why he died!" and then proceeds to tell us exactly how and why he died, and, in true form, at least partially blames it on the fish store. (Side note, if you were talking about fluconazole with the fish store staff for months how come you never learned to pronounce it?) >Also says "everything else in the tank is fine!" She also spends time, in true form, complimenting herself for managing to keep him alive past six months because
>"usually they don't survive when you get them as babies covered in ich!" >"Maybe he was meant to die now because of genetics and he couldn't live more just because I loved him so much."Also, she says her water levels were "fine." That's a running joke in fish groups, people ask for advice and say their water is "fine" without giving numbers. We need numbers, Taylor! Were your ammonia and nitrites zero? Were your nitrates reasonable, or were they in the 100s because you have an overstocked tank? Is that just what you consider "fine?" Remember how adult cowfish need almost twice the tank size cheese is in as a MINIMUM, Taylor?
>"Sometimes I just take photos of him just because they're fun and don't post them!" wtf?
>"I'm debating taking him to the vet to get an autoposy" LOL lmk how that goes, Taylor, she's just depending here on people not knowing how fish/marine vets actually work.
Fish are fragile, especially scaleless fish like cowfish. She needed to be a lot more careful with adjusting anything in that tank if Cheese really meant SO much to her. Treating with fluconazole seems like overkill for algae anyway. Dangerous for tank inhabitants and as soon as you stop treating the algae would come back anyway, unless she treats the root problem causing the algae, like lighting issues or overfeeding or maybe shoving as many fish as she can in her 150 gallon.
Also, this part is mostly speculation, but what did she spend $2000 on for her 150 gallon recently? Was it really just anti-fungals and algae treatment, because there's no way that was that expensive. Fish fluconazole costs like $30 for a week or two supply for a tank her size. It sounds like she changed more about the tank than that, and that also could have stressed/killed Cheese. Did she change the filtration, or add more fish? Any of that could have caused the cycle to crash and killed Cheese.
Anyway, I'm glad nothing happened to her human family.
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Yeah, I bet she would take care of her kids the same way. Thank god she doesn't have any.
No. 600483
>>600478I'm assuming Cheese was a Longhorn, apparently they're omnivorous (Sponges and mollusk being some)
I remember she mostly just fed him seaweed and probs some other normal brand tropical fish feed, could've partially been malnutrition?
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Is she seriously trying to convince her fans cheese was fully grown???
Also, maybe someone with more experience can weigh in, but I thought there wasn't any sexual dimorphism in longhorn cowfish and it was notoriously difficult to sex them. I always assumed she just made up that cheese was male?
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I had to look up existential…and it’s not even used correctly…and definitely her infantile stans won’t kniw its definition! Lol
No. 600535
>>600531the entire crying thing alone looked so fake to me idk.
Maybe we're just biased but we all know this will be another Nala thing where she makes sure to make a ton on merch and shit.
No. 600556
>>600552I feel like she did it so now whenever people speculate animals are dead she can be like "But I told you CHEESE died even though I knew people would hate me, obviously if I replaced my animals I would have replaced him!"
>>600526You're correct- dead fish, especially larger ones, decompose quickly and create too much bioload for what the filtration system of a tank will be used to. Sometimes other animals in the tank eat whatever died, but hopefully she took him out quickly enough neither of those things happened. She said he was floating though… it's been a while since I kept saltwater or bigger fish, but usually fish sink when they die. They don't start floating until 12-24 hrs later when the gasses in the decomposing body start building up.
No. 600574
>>600563And more to the point, Jenna is emotionally attached to all her pets equally.
Taylor didn't care about Zazu and she said as much ("it's just a fish lmao")
Zazu didn't merit a video but Cheese does?
It's all about the money.
No. 600575
>>600556If fish sink when they die, should Cheese near the bottom of the tank been a huge red flag?
It does seem all very random that this happened, especially since Taylor’s said in the past that she’s had fish stores and such “babysit” her fish. Why couldn’t she have scooped out her more sensitive fish and left them in another tank (like at her fish stores) while she did the treatment she was extremely hesitant to do?
Also, why was she so hesitant if she insists she couldn’t find any negative effects/possibilities? Or is that a lie to take the blame off herself? Is Fluca-whatever actually dangerous?
No. 600576
>>600575Fish sink when they're dead and float when they've been dead for some time.
Him hanging out at the bottom could really just have been because he was sleeping.
No. 600588
>>600536All it takes is the click of one button not to monetize your video. The fact that she rambled on for 5+ minutes (with who knows how many ads in that time frame) before admitting Cheese had died just makes her scummy. Right up there with Momokun monetizing her sexual assault apology.
>>600574This. She only cares about this particular fish because it's what got her fans in the first place. If Cheese hadn't been popular it would've been "just a fish".
No. 600619
>>600611I think a screenshot of her video and
>>596821 ("It was a fish dude", "I don't feel bad about it whatsoever" comments) would be a good pairing hahahaha.
No. 600621
>>600618Yeah…
It's also pretty odd / shitty that she hasn't at least posted any tribute pictures of cheese to her twitter or instagram at all, she really must want to drive all the traffic to the video for people to find out about his death to gain her last bit of money from him, rather than what most people would do and just post a montage of their favorite photos of their passed pet to remember them and let people know they've died.
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>>600619lmao when karma catches up to u for saying “it was just a fish” to the fish that died last week
No. 600625
>>600520Then you and Taylor have a copy mechanism more childish that can be, you don't joke about the dead of a love one
Either you respect them enough to not do so or you don't…
No. 600628
>>6006262 skinks and toad ("fried")
Zazu (lionfish)
Egg (Mantis)
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Funny she was having this conversation just yesterday. Could be Cheese was already dead while she was cackling about people questioning her care when yet another animal has passed just this month.
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$$$
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No. 600657
>>600656Yeah, that just… blows my mind with how wilfully negligent she is.
And no wonder she had algae problems with how overstocked that tank was. It was just eventually snowball right out of control, and as usual she "corrected" the problem without thinking things through. And now her meal ticket fish is definitely dead because of her.
No. 600665
>>600664It's fucking laughable to even compare Jenna and Taylor. It's obvious who actually cares for her animals - and I'd fucking like to see Taylor own up to her mistakes and commit to doing better than Jenna does just. even. once.
But no, crocodile tears, blush around the eyes, boohooing and lol and lmao and neglect are more Taylor's style. She's such a fucking phony.
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Pretty sure she's lurking…
No. 600676
>>600647>just released new merch>Cheese is suddenly dead!Yeah that's not suspicious at all. I wouldn't put it past her to have noticed he was dead and then scrambled to capitalize on it with new merch designs.
>>600674>people won't think I'm doing it to profit off his death lolBut you are.
No. 600736
>>600719Maybe she thinks she can replace the others without being called out since if anyone calls her out she can claim she wouldn't do that, she admitted Cheese died!
Also it could still happen, if he really did JUST die. Some of her fish in there are tougher than others, but it's so hard to tell when fish are struggling and fishkeepers should never take chances. Even if Cheese was only dead in there for like an hour he could have caused an ammonia or nitrate spike. She should have tested the water immediately for everything possible, and likely done a big water change to be safe. I bet she didn't do that.
No. 600738
From what it sounds like, Cheese suffered nitrate poisoning. In my experience with freshwater fish, it causes them to bottom sit and have general troubles with swimming. What I do know for certain is that freshwater tanks can get away with higher nitrates at around 20ppm or so. However, with saltwater you want to ideally keep it at or as close to 0 as possible, but up to 10ppm seems to be an acceptable range.
As everyone else is saying, she took the lazy route when it came to addressing her algae issue. Lowering the amount of time the lights are on, addressing any water quality issues like high nitrates, adding more water flow and movement, and using a good old fashion scrub brush are all ways she could have gone. Did she mention trying a UV sterilizer? And they even have little robots that’ll scrub your tank. She’s buying 10k snakes. Surely she could afford that. This is why I don’t understand her stans always telling her she did all she could do. No she didn’t.
I think she’s lying anyway. Again, my experience is in freshwater fish. However, the bottom sitting and being lethargic she described with Cheese sounds like a case of nitrate poisoning. I need to watch the video because I have so many questions like at any point, did she try a water change? If not, I just don’t know what to say. She makes mistakes that are like if Jeffree Star told people to put lipstick on their foreheads. The only difference is if Jeffree said put forehead lipstick on no animals would die.
No. 600754
>>600674She profits off the dead hedgie (Nala) so why wouldn't she continue to profit off Cheese?
Yes Taylor, you profit off dead animals. Own up to it.
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What the hell kind of tweet is this?!
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No. 600777
>>600766Croc skink Dany
Croc skink Drogo
Pacman frog Asteroid
Dwarf lionfish Zazu
Mantis shrimp Larry
Mantis (the insect) Egg
Cowfish Cheese
It's seven deaths. People seem to keep combining the mantis and the mantis shrimp as one animal. Seven deaths and that's just this month.
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Waiting for this comment to be deleted from her YT video
No. 600804
>>600777not to wk, but I think people don't count the mantis bug because the bugs really don't live that long. For once, she wasn't lying about the lifespan. It was a death, but it is the ONE we probably can't hold against her too much.
>>600779excellent point. I really don't think those Halloween crabs are still around. She probably didn't quarantine the new one/s anyway, and who knows what they were carrying since they're all wild caught animals?
No. 600807
>>600804It's been agreed upon here that Egg the mantis died naturally. He's merely included because it's still a death and he still counts as a pet.
Taylor likes to claim she loves all her pets equally, but that's clearly not true. She loves the ones that give her attention and the most money.
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Even Facebook is catching on, King of DIY’s group no less. Half the comments are sad fans, half are people calling out her poor husbandry (this is sad but we aren’t shocked at all etc comments).
No. 600817
>>597713>>600766videoannon here (senor ria)
I think she is sad because Cheese is literally her cloutmaker, but I also feel awful (my betta recently died so not to wk but y'all get it.) I just watched her cheese video because I thought she'd say something self-aware, but it was awful. I might do a reaction video, or just mention her animals and give her my POV. I have all the information about her fish, and I was telling my husband they might have died due to the amount of animals in such a small tank. Any anons that have any useful information on care (especially on mantis + crocodile skinks) would be good.
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She left twitter and lost all of her followers when she came back. That’s a bit of karma for her.
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I can't get over how dumb she is. How does she not understand the fact she said she slept for 12hrs then left them for 10hrs? Checking in them once in 22hrs is crazy. And not checking on them for 10hrs after an electrical issue is even crazier. Maybe it wasn't intentional, but it was certainly neglectful.
No. 600896
>>600883Her bones must be full of decay because she is truly rotten to the core. The fact that all she can do is "lmao" all over this shows her immaturity, lack of understanding and just straight up arrogance.
Maybe it wasn't intentional, or abusive but yes it was neglectful. You neglected your animals. You didn't check on them after an electricity issue. When a majority of your pets RELY on power to survive and something goes wrong, don't you think you should be concerned for at least 24 hours after the problem? Especially when it involves HEATING?
Honestly I don't believe her story that they overheated in their tanks. I think they died from neglect (malnutrition, dehydration, etc) and she's using it as a cover up. She just lies, lies and lies and then just "wtf lmao lol" to try and act like it's no big deal.
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No. 600905
>>600903meh I've seen a few videos of people burying their pets so it's not unusual in a way, granted they were all balling their eyes out.
A viking funeral by talor though definitely wont be the same and probably will be mostly just jokes and very cringy comments.
No. 600908
>>600905Except she's not burying Cheese. She's setting him on fire and letting him drift through… what? A river? Is she gonna do this shit in a public space and then let her dead fish carry disease somewhere? Or is she going to do it in her bathtub where it just looks cheap, tacky and ruins the idea because she's gonna have to then take him out and get rid of his remains.
She really didn't think this through.
No. 600914
>>600910 Knowing her self-centered ass, I wouldn't be surprised if she did that.
"The chlorine kills the bacteria muhhh"
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No. 600941
>>600935LC isnt an army and all that jazz but god I hope she starts really crashing soon cause I can't stand how this bitch gets away with hoarding, killing and abuse of her animals.
Taylor is so dumb she thinks the only form of abuse is purposefully hurting/starving/neglecting etc your pets (which she probably has done) but the absolute LACK of care she has for ANY of these pets is a form of abuse too and its leading her pets to slow deaths living in misery until they die of one of her whoopsies. I just hope the amount of animal deaths in a month will bring some traction to possibly videos etc outing her or something cause fucking a rapist, lighting his joints near your "delicate" reptiles and lying about his sobriety isnt enough of a crack in character to make people take notice.
No. 600950
>>600945Well in the past month alone she's killed at least 7 of her pets, it probably does smell awful and I'm sure the landlord gets complaints daily.
My main question is how can someone be so negligent, careless, impulsive, selfish and display such terrible animal husbandry yet still have a fan base willing to defend her when she kills her pets and blames everyone else around her for her stupid actions.
No. 600954
Just wanna point out guys that although she's mentioned 7 pets dying this month, she said (and I don't doubt) that zazu and the shrimp died months ago. I also suspect her mantis died a while ago as well (might be wrong) due to the lack of any recent photos of it. I also reckon the skinks and frog died over a month ago by now. But still, within the last year she's lost a kitten, a mouse, a hedgehog, a frog, 2 skinks, 2 fish (that we know of), a shrimp, a mantis, honestly wouldn't be surprised if there's more, but even so that's not great going.
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>gets presented with things Taylor said and did
>"It's taken out of context!! She didn't mean it!!"
Just… what? Obviously Taylor won't admit to abusing animals lol
No. 600972
>>600947Should snap back with some Petco or Petsmart bullshit,
"hey there's one cat in a huge cage that's pretty much on deaths door but it's ok cause they have lots of space and food"
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Haven't seen Star in a little while on her story/social media posts…
No. 601008
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No. 601015
>>601009Yeah, I don't get it either.
And "I just want the experience" was what she said when she got with Jonny too, ironically. She just wants the experience, and to hell with consequences.
No. 601024
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>>601008>performing a viking funeral for clicks>collecting the remains>taking to vet for necropsy>cremation???She is so ass backwards. If you're doing a viking funeral then you're effectively cremating him. If you want to get a necropsy then you need a body and even if you're just taking him out to film then he's going to start to decay and stink. By now I'm surprised she doesn't have a freezer just dedicated to animal corpses.
This'll be Taylor in a year or two just with the pets she has now because she can't bury them on apartment property and there's no way she can get them all cremated without raising suspicions.
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No. 601030
>>601013If she weren't high all the fucking time, she would do what any normal sane person would do and brush of her fans' suggestions of this fuckery with "haha yeah that would be neat."
Obviously she's not going to do all of this, but even the thought of "I'm going to burn him on camera for views, then take him to a vet like 'ignore the charred corpse it was for my youtube channel lmao' so she can get her obligatory 'guys the vet says it's totally not my fault and I'm the best pet mom ever!!!' necropsy, then have him cremated so I can probably make another scattering ashes video, because there hasn't been enough monetized disrespect already," is just like… if I weren't 100% sure the bitch was just retarded, I would think she was actually a sociopath.
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1) cowfish dont have gills, they just have a hole
2) preeeeeeeeetty sure it's been more than 48 hours since his death
3) whats the point of getting a fucking necropsy if fish ones are mostly inconclusive?
tin foil hat, I guess Taylor is just looking for an excuse to burn money so it looks like she cares.
No. 601042
>>601039I mean we all know the conclusion will be 'there's nothing wrong' lmao.
She will probably throw him out or put his ashes in some pots or some shit.
No. 601071
>>601066She’s done this to me before too, I haven’t called her out for months but I come back to this thread to catch up a lot. She deletes the tweets because when her fans say “hey, people are attacking the person you quoted, you were wrong for doing that”, she cries about ~anxiety~ and how being attacked is overwhelming and
triggering panic attacks.
No. 601093
>>601053She's too stupid to stop to think about what's require to actually turn a fish body into ash.
If someone notices her lighting fires and reports her to the cops because she does this stupid stunt out in public I'll laugh my ass off. Good old Jonny isn't going to get her out of jail. Or find her a nice lawyer. Or pay her legal expenses.
No. 601124
>>601121She could just light the boat on fire. But I could see her putting a cloth-covered Cheese-shaped object on the boat and lighting it on fire. It solves the necropsy problem because we know she isn't getting.
"Oops, I didn't grab Cheese's body out fast enough and it's too burnt to necropsy now. Sorry lol."
No. 601128
>>601120 I honestly hope she is just trying to troll the people on this forum because otherwise it would be highly disturbing and dangerous if her little fans start to believe do-it-yourself-cremations for a dead pet are okay.
And I am pretty sure Taylor watches enough TV to have come across different depictions or references to Viking funerals.
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>>601087And yet they comment shit like this
No. 601185
i just watched the cheese video and while i do believe that she is sad and had a bond with that fish (after all she's just a bratty, fame-hungry, entitled 21 year old, not some comic villain) some things that irritated me:
1. her "AND THE FISH STORE" were "RESEARCHING RELENTLESSLY" for "TWO MONTHS" if that anti-fungal stuff would be suitable? the relationship between her and that store sounds way exaggerated, like they have nothing else to do than go on a MONTHS-long endeavour to "relentlessly research" 1 (ONE) medication for 1 tank in close collaboration with 1 customer? also if it takes you months to research 1 medication that means your research is bad and lazy. i get it, she wanted to make it sound like she did EVERYTHING to make sure it's a safe treatment, but please taylor, it's just not realistic
2. alright, so now she hyped up that treatment story but then she's like "or he might have just reached his individual natural life span! i hope he did! but i wish he would have had a longer individual natural life span!", taylor, you just explained that he died 1 or 2 days after that treatment, what exactly are the chances that a normally rather long-lived species of fish randomly reaches a pretty short individual natural life span so briefly after you introduced a new medication. sure you cannot be 100% certain what caused his death, but the same old "he lived his full life…well maybe he did" shtick just makes you sound dodgy in this case
3. she spends way…like WAY too much time revelling in how many people SHE made happy by giving that fish a platform. i mean sure, mention it, but go easy on the "i, me, myself" maybe?
4) now i'm just being snarky, but can't help but notice how she was always like "no fish in my 150 gallon has ever died, my fragile cow fish is thriving, so i am pretty much infallible". welp.
god i hope she wakes up and gets her life back on track, leaves that asshole rapist and stops. buying. animals. she seems overwhelmed and unable to cope in every sense
No. 601200
>>601185How is it possible she and other "professionals" research for two months and the only thing all they come up to was a medication instead of idk buy a bigger tank, split the huge quantity of fishes in two so the algae dont feed off the leftovers, try change the tank to a part with less natural light or buy a algae eating fishes.
If she knew the treatment could affect Cheese why she didnt pass him to another tank during those two months?
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No. 601221
>>601212That could actually be her goal! Every news is good news for Taylor and maybe she thinks she might break big and become the crazy story of the day for a larger news station so new people might flock to her channel…
Up to now I still had a bit of hope left that she was only trolling. This is so disturbing…
No. 601226
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No. 601238
>>601226Replace her face with
>>600624 and this will be a flawless thread pic
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No. 601245
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She will turn Cheese into a ring.
No. 601248
>>601245I really wanna know what she is on… so I can keep away from it as far as possible!
This whole thing is even worse than people stuffing their pet dogs and cats to keep them around forever…
No. 601249
>>601245"I'm so emo lol"
God this cow just wants attention so bad LooOOooLLLlll
No. 601283
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No. 601293
>>601290there are none
just don't dump it in the outdoors bc it (bacteria, viruses, & pH) can affect wildlife.
^ That's as far as I know, but people break the rules always anyways
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Wonder when she’ll introduce the new skinks
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This is exactly what she wants
No. 601337
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>>601335I hope it was this one. The irony is too good
No. 601343
>>601254Taylor admitted Jonny is still on heroin all the time and almost ODd in her bathroom. But she said she does coke in those conversations, not heroin.
That was at the beginning of their relationship though so she could totally be doing heroin now but there is no real evidence
No. 601353
>>601350I would change the title to something more clickbait-y/innocent to lure people in.
Your text has some weird transition glitches? Or something. Some of the reading material could be left on the screen longer.
No. 601376
>>601370this girl is obviously on drugs too lmao i just looked at her other videos. she is not okay
“Jonny’s exes are lying because they’re crazy!! And they still like him!” honey Taylor barely likes his dumb ass
No. 601397
>>601370“There’s a first time for everything”
Yeah but people don’t get two 2 week old kittens as their first…
I could watch anymore, her voice is so annoying.
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No. 601447
Sorry I'm a bit late, haven't been on all day but I caught up and want to chime in on the Cheese/funeral/necropsy situation as someone with experience with fish.
I seriously doubt anyone is agreeing to do a necropsy on Cheese. She's just depending on her fans' ignorance of fish vets and the fact that her stans let her get away with murder, literally, and everything else.
She does live near SeaWorld so the chances of her finding a qualified local marine vet aren't zero, but they're still pretty slim. She hasn't made mention of doing that though, it seems like she thinks/expects us to think she can just drive her fish's corpse to her regular vet or an exotic vet and they'll do an autopsy They won't. Almost no one does fish.
When Solid Gold was trying to figure out what was wiping out her whole fish room she had to send fish by mail to be analyzed at a lab because no one local did that, but she couldn't send them the dead ones. She told us in video that she had to send fish while they were still alive, because that's how it usually works. I think the lab tested the fish for bacteria/etc while they were alive and then they autopsied them pretty much immediately when they died. It also took her about 48 days to get back any results because they were that thorough. Inb4 Taylor comes back in like 24 hours with "the vet said it couldn't have been my fault guys he was just old!"
Even if Taylor did find a marine vet, as has been brought up, fish decompose way too fast for anyone to get any information on why that fish died at this point. If you don't do an autopsy immediately, you're basically not doing one. MAYBE if she froze Cheese immediately she could do it. But she said she left him on the kitchen counter in that video, and I'd suspect she didn't freeze him quickly or possibly at all. Most importantly though there's the fact that she said she found him floating, and if that's true it means he was dead for days by the time she even pulled him out of the tank. Much too late to do anything with that body now. The alternative is that if Cheese really was alive until she found him floating and she isn't covering for missing him, she pulled him out while he was just on death's door/still alive thinking he was dead. I guess that'd be better for the necropsy, but worse for the poor fish.
Taylor tweeted at 7pm her time she was going to "drop him off right now." Where, Taylor? What marine vet is available for her to drop off at 7pm, on a Sunday, on sudden notice? Wtf? Even if that were true, and Cheese hadn't been dead for days, 7pm Sunday is probably at least 48 hours after she said he died (she posted the video at about 4am San Antonio time on the 17th, according to her Cheese was fine morning of the 16th. Sometime after that she said she found him floating, and she "put him on the kitchen counter because I didn't know what to do with him.") If we was dead when she said, that's about or just over 48 hours- usually too long for a real necropsy.
Plus, fish autopsies in the best circumstances are generally inconclusive. They can culture for bacteria, sometimes organ failure or obstruction if they ate something they shouldn't have is apparently, but most often it's impossible to tell what happened to kill the fish.
God Taylor's such an idiot. I hope someone asks her more about where she got this necropsy done. It's obvious she just wants to say she's getting one done to absolve herself of blame, but if she doesn't provide any more proof or take back past statements that don't add up, no one should take anything she says about this necropsy seriously.
>>600954She definitely lost more fish this year but doesn't announce it so it's hard to add to the list. She seems to have slowly lost those bettas from her "sorority" that used to be in her freshwater tank. I remember there were less than before in one of her vidoes, and they seem to be missing completely from pics/Emma's video. She has angels in there now which are a poor tankmate for that african leaf fish she has in there. Her freshwater tanks have always looked like someone just pointed at random to fish in a store, she puts no thought into tankmates.
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Seeing a healthy axolotl and comparing that to how Mushu looks makes me feel so fucking sad.
No. 601545
>>601370First video anon here, why are so many people suddenly so upset about my video mentioning her fucked up relationship with Jonny? There's also a bunch of comments on the video about this.
It makes me second guess myself a bit whether I should've put it in but then again it's important if someone is a heroin addict/their partner might flush their pets when they have to take care of 50 animals.
No. 601551
>>601545DW, it’s relevant. Her life/animal care began seriously spiralling after becoming involved with him, there are serious allegations of violence against him including from Taylor herself against her animals. Some stans might just find it a “weak” spot in your criticism since they can claim it’s a personal attack more than your claims about her pets.
I would also point out to them that Tay herself despite multiple tweets/texts claiming Jonny’s violence/abuse/addiction issues has actually gifted him pets herself. It’s all relevant when she’s giving him innocent animals to be responsible for when the dude can’t even take responsibility for himself
No. 601557
>>601551I agree, definitely relevant. She didn't take the best care of her pets when she lived with her family, but generally did the minimum and didn't get dozens every time you blink until she started her life with JC. Also he seems a potential danger to her and her animals, especially threatening to flush a kitten, as well as smoking around fragile animals, but also just by demanding Taylor's attention like he does to himself and drugs.
It was really when she moved in with him that her life began to spiral and she lost fans and got threads on here, so including him is well justified.
No. 601560
>>601551>>601557You're right. I think I might be starting to lose my mind a bit trying to reason with not only Taylor stans but now also Jonny stans lol
Taylor only gave Jonny Twisty and Gucci Nr 2 right?
No. 601581
>>601560Yes I believe those are 'his' only two pets. Although I really don't think he cares for them at all given he tours and yeah, twisty's tail…
Taylor's stans are one thing but Jonny's are a whole new class of retarded, it's public knowledge to the point it's on his Wikipedia page that he's a douchebag. Honestly it's amazing people want to defend him because a few years back he scammed hundreds of his fans with just one macbook.
It's all relevant, think of it this way. Celebrities never get a moments peace because of tabloids and the sorts and youtube is no different. She has put herself out there and everything you used was stuff she publicly shared with the world, which given how things are is free game.
Taylor's stans don't have a full idea what a stalker really is. For me at least it's only classed as stalking if you start obsessing over her to the point you're at her house creeping near the property or trying to break in (or sending letters bombs like that one dude and the singer)
All I can really suggest is people keep at it and don't bow down, they're kids and if it's one thing kids are good at it's scream and cry when they want something but don't want to put in the effort to get it.
No. 601598
>>601595Nope, given that it's probably important to note that she said he's a year old and Emperor Scorpions live between 6-8.
You know, in case something happens…
No. 601600
>>601245>cremate and turn him into a ringSure, Taylor. Any excuse to buy yourself a brand new bit of jewelry and excuse the absurd cost of it because "It's sentimental to me!!"
It's a fish. There won't be enough fucking ashes to make a ring gem you twat unless you want to scoop up some unclaimed remains as filler.
No. 601617
>>601325It's downright creepy how she prefaces the arrival of all new 'pets' with their current age and expected lifespan. Literally don't know anyone who does this other than Taylor and frankly it's weird in a really fucked up way.
Why not just say that you bought it to take a picture and then throw it in a bin till it dies when that's actually what she does with every animal she has. She is nasty.
No. 601621
>>601545i found taylor because of jonny. to me, jonny was the original cow. at first, i felt really bad for taylor because she seemed nice and not deserving of the mess jc is. then i realized how poor her care is, and it became a trainwreck i couldn't seem to look away from.
jonny IS abusive and a predator. i think all taylor's young fans romanticize them because they wanna believe they can save a damaged guy like him. that they are soooo amazing (just like taylor) that they will be the exception. so to them, jc is just another animal taylor saved because she is 'that' great
No. 601681
>>601623Sometimes I think she is just too deep into the abusive loop, you know? I can't help but feel sorry for her.
I know she brought this up onto herself, everyone warned her and offered help but she was just so damn young when it all started. Her 'I want to experience this' speaks volumes about how naive she was when she met him.
Idk, it's just that in my eyes she is still a victim. Like anons said in older threads, the hoarding seems more like a coping mechanism.
No. 601702
>>601701Yeah for real. I'm only a year older than Taylor and I also had a fairly sheltered upbringing but I would've never dated a rapist after being warned by thousands of people lol
The thing about Taylor is that she has millions of fans that would cheer her on if she seperated from Jonny. Everyone knows he is a disgusting person. She could silently leave with all her pets one day while he is on tour.
It's not comparable to other victims who don't have a way out or a support net at all.
No. 601709
>>601702This is an ignorant reply
It's not that easy. If this is an actual case of abuse then we don't know the full extent of her situation and its possible that he'd have leverage on her. And what are her fans going to do, they can't protect her in any way if she needed it.
Getting out of an abusive relationship may seem easier than it is, but its a thousand times more complicated
No. 601712
>>601701When I was around her age I did a lot of stupid shit, back then I didn't measure the consequences correctly and I suspect that's the same for Taylor.
She also seems a bit… emotionally stunted? In a sense? Growing up with someone like Tanner is hard on itself but not only that, her mother seems a bit uneven as well and she was homeschooled to boot.
I also think 20 is pretty young but maybe that's because I'm old lol
No. 601718
>>601709Of course it's complicated. But she had perfect resources to help her get out: Jonnys exes. They've been through exactly the same shit Taylor is in right now, and they even talked to her in the beginning trying to get her out.
If Jonny has leverage on Taylor then the only thing I could imagine would be bad enough for her to stay is her doing some really fucked up shit like replacing her pets. She could spin anything else into doing it because he abused her.
We are talking about someone who let her pets burn to death because she couldn't be fucked to check on them for 10 hours, not some innocent girl.
No. 601726
>>601715I don't think anons are arguing that she shouldn't be held accountable for her mistakes. She obviously should, we are talking about actual living being in her care here and she is not innocent at all
What I think they are arguing is that we should put her actions in a context. Everything really only went down after she moved in with Jonny. Her care wasn't the best but it was acceptable enough, she did stupid irresponsible stuff like taking her skink on walks but it was never something extremely dangerous, she blew up on youtube before all the Jonny drama but she only really got a thread here after him for a reason
No. 601743
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Damn
No. 601764
>>601718Fully agree. Why do people still find themselves able to feel bad for her shitty and obviously abusive relationship with Jonny when she is the POS she is? She has horrible animal care. She lies about literally everything. She has KILLED helpless animals through her awful care. All the while crying about how much of a victim she is about everything along the way.
She was warned by literally tens of hundreds of people. Including multiple of Jonny’s exes. I’m sorry but making dumb decisions while you’re young doesn’t include dating a literal RAPIST. And then making fun of his exes that were raped?? What an awful person to do that.
Also remember when she first broke up with him, literally so many people were giving her advice on how to get him out and they were so happy for her leaving him. She really is delusional. When he goes on tour is the most perfect opportunity to get out. They obviously don’t love each other; it’s a consistent cycle of abuse. I think she really does stay with him because he has so much dirt on her. He would ruin her in any way he could if she truly left him.
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>>601787He posted this on June 29 of this year. Presumably yes.
Spoilers cause not everyone wants to see mostly naked Jonny
No. 601803
>>601794She'd go back to her parents because she can't be alone. That's pretty much why she keeps buying animals, and why she hasn't dumped JC. I remember in a video she mentioned that because she frequently missed school due to her illnesses, animals were kinda like a comfort for her. Add to that anons who have posted in past threads who knew her from high school, saying that all her interactions and social life was online because she was constantly at home.
Taylor is socially incapable, immature, and inept overall to be truly on her own. She constantly has the need to be validated online because it's all she knows. If she broke up with JC, I'm most certain she'd jump right into another relationship with an equally shitty partner because behind all that flexing she's highly insecure and cannot cope with being on her own despite how "empowered" she pretends to be.
No. 601857
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Another joke at the expense of legit criticism, Tyler can kindly go fuck himself.
No. 601878
>>601874It's already emotionally abusive. He's really clingy and often goes into these guilt-tripping tirades on Twitter whenever she has a life that doesn't involve him. It's really obvious they're very much in a toxic dynamic considering the amount of love-bombing they do on twitter.
I'm still baffled at Jennifer for falling for his shit, let alone thinking that a 32 year old dating a 20 year old is in any way normal or right.
Shit will get ugly when they break up.
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Guys sorry for OT but that person that made the reaction video would be such a cow herself if she had more content. I really wouldn't have been surprised if she was 9, I can't believe this is a grown up woman
No. 601972
>>601969So a 5 second google search later,
"A third party who passes on a defamatory statement without knowing its content is not liable for defamation; this is called innocent dissemination of information."
"Unlike defamation per se where the plaintiff only needs to prove the false statement was made, defamation per quod requires proof that damages exist."
Don't think paige knows enough about the law to make that kind of statement.
No. 601974
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Amazing idea Taylor, get into the face of your aggressive snake and take a pic with flash while it's in shed.
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No. 602054
>>602050I went a-googling, and they really are stunning as you said! I hope she leaves the poor thing alone if she gets one (she seems to be quite good at not tending to her pets…) and doesn't put it on her face and tits.
… who am I kidding, this is Tay-tay we're talking about.
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No. 602062
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this….this is a troll right?
No. 602069
>>602067I doubt that they follow her anywhere but on Youtube since most of them don't even seem to know about the dead pets.
She also dresses like a hooker in her videos but at least not as bad as in her pictures I guess
No. 602080
>>602074Isn’t King of DIY
problematic too anyway?
No. 602127
>>602116Oh, sorry, I didn't know that they were so dangerous.
I just wanted to clear up that she wasn't the one that mixed up the species.
No. 602155
We are talking about Taylor "not uncomfortable owning any animal" Dean here which she stated in her interview, it's not that far of a reach to think she will jump from Cersei into owning a P. Metallica tbh, some people in the T hobby do jump from one single new world into old worlds like an OBT
>>602121Yeah, Rob C who was bit by a P. Ornata, still has flare ups from time to time being bitten by one years ago. He thinks it is from that bite still anyways.
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kek
No. 602199
>>602121I hope she does.
Maybe it'll bite her overfilled lip.
No. 602209
>>602207Idk if it's just me but I think you should make your videos a bit more "click baitey" to catch the attention of people. Like this video I'd call "Why Jonny Craig is a trash person (including receipts)" or something like that if you don't want to use words like rapist or abuse. Same with the dying pets one.
Anyway, I appreciate you making this series.
No. 602258
>>602252I'm not surprised Joey made a video, he understands being sad when fish die and it's probably more about him sympathizing with fans who liked Cheese than endorsing Taylor's fish care.
I didn't know Jenny took down her videos with him, but it looks like you're right! Maybe she doesn't endorse Joey's care anymore with his recent acquisitions and fish deaths. I wonder what's going on with Jenny though, she's disappeared from youtube and social media for like 3 months now.
No. 602355
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Looks like we got a lurker
No. 602378
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Does anyone know anything about handling monitors? This looks so wrong.
No. 602404
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the first result on YouTube e shows how to hold a monitor properly. support the full body. pic is blurry because he kept moving the whole time but see the hand placement is always supporting her front and back.
No. 602439
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Why do Nemo's eyes look weird? I've never seen a photo of a cat with their eyes looking like this.
No. 602447
>>602439 If you take pictures of cats with a flash it can make their eyes look all kind of weird in photos.
But this being Taylor, it wouldn't be out of the realm of possibilities for the cat to be ill.
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Is it just me, or do Twisty's feet look very stubby, as if he's had/having shedding issues? Unfortunately they're out of focus, but they don't look like normal beardie feet to me.
No. 602453
>>602451I saw this earlier and was going to post it thinking he'd lost some toes.
Though I wasn't sure if his toes are just bent or not.
No. 602457
>>602439his pupils could be affected by the flash but the eyes themselves should not be that bloodshot.
It is possible that this is a very very early sign of jaundice, considering Taylor often doesn't post about her animals problems until it's to late I wouldn't rule it out.
Other possibilities could be genetic deformity, Iris Melanosis which isn't bad for the cat but if the case is severe can cause glaucoma or the worst case scenario iris melanoma.
Even if it's nothing she should urgently get him to a vet to check him out.
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If it distresses you, why would you buy from a breeder that feeds live? Seems really easy to avoid getting snakes that needed to live feed.
No. 602490
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the sclera is right there?? dont embarass yourselves guys
No. 602493
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>>602444>>602440>>602490>>602492>>602439You are all embarrassingly retarded and need to stop with this speculation bullshit shitposting. If your post includes the words
>I don't know anything about butThen don't fucking post it. Walk away from the keyboard.
The sclera is the part of the eye that is white in humans and humans are one of the only mammals with visible, uncoloured sclera. It is not visible in cats without physically manipulating their eyes. We cannot see this cat's scleras in the photos provided. The white part isn't the tear duct, it's the third eyelid.
No. 602495
>>602492>>602451Both of these posts are fucking autistic.
Apparently none of you have seen a cat before, their iris are huge, and I’ve seen hundreds of cats with eyes like this, it’s not their sclera.
You’re making us all look bad and discrediting the real concerns
No. 602509
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This is just embarrassing. Her cat’s eyes are fine. Like another anon said, you can’t see the sclera in a cat’s eye without manipulation. Her cat’s eyes look dichromatic and probably just edited to make it more pronounced. Stop reaching.
No. 602529
>>602503Someone literally said it might just be because of flash. You could literally test this yourself, sometimes cat's eyes come out weird looking.
The best way to look for jaundice here is to look at the ears of the cat really and they look fine.
No. 602530
>>602528You're likely buying from a bad breeder that hasn't got the snake to eat fully frozen/thawed food then.
That or you're buying snakes that are 'bad feeders' or are generally just stressed. Frank in this ca