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No. 613294
21 year old "family friendly pet mom" Youtuber, her 32 year old junkie boyfriend Jonny Craig, and her creepy controlling mother.
Previous thread:
>>>/pt/607955The basics:
> Taylor is a notorious animal hoarder known for collecting 40+ rare and exotic pets and manhandling/mistreating them for the sake of her Youtube channel which has over 1 million subscribers. Several pets have died in her care, many more have fallen ill due to her neglect or disappeared after "rehoming" them. Fails to give proper enclosures for many of her pets, including overstuffing fish tanks, keeping her kittens locked in the bathroom, and her mouse and hedgehog in the closet.> Jonny Craig is the frontman of the band Slaves and is most well-known for being an outspoken abusive junkie. He has been in and out of rehab centers for a decade now and has been kicked out of multiple bands and off of tours for his behavior. He is usually homeless when he does not have a girlfriend to leech off of.> Several of Jonny's ex-girlfriends have come out with stories of Jonny's physical and sexual abuse, including rape at knife-point. His ex Chelsea confided this in Taylor when she and Jonny first started dating, in which Taylor's response was to laugh with Jonny and make a public spectacle of it.> Taylor loves to throw pity parties for herself and dodge around the real issues when faced with criticism about her husbandry, hoarding, and hypocrisy. She can never keep her stories straight and will tell outright lies only to contradict them hours later. Her fans are sycophants who only encourage her.Taylor's Links:
Twitter:
http://www.twitter.com/taylorndean Instagram:
http://www.instagram.com/taylorndean Youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaOTXKuQ-t-eTikY96B9n-Q Facebook (private:)
https://www.facebook.com/Taylor.Nicole.Dean Jonny's Links:
Twitter:
https://twitter.com/jonnycraig4L Instagram:
https://www.instagram.com/jonnycraig4lJen’s Links:
https://twitter.com/tamonandpumbaList of all Taylor's pets:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QNUksDcQk_cqLTkTFTiPjP2pCGBQgORyCesIIqvZ2Zs/edit?pli=1Stats of Taylor’s pets and history:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1e8bakM4GHa2J1y4qwYsB-T0jSpN5uWCI_q0dv-odij4/htmlview#New Milk:
>Made a 40 minute long apology video without actually apologizing, instead making up excuses> Still never made an apology video for slandering South Texas Dragons, only a brief half apology in forementioned 40 minute video> Admits to live feeding, and knocking rodents out with blunt force instead of a CO2 chamber (as recently as mid Nov, also leaving a live feeder alone with her snake for 20 mins, only checking on it once)> Mushu has been shown without much gill feathering left recently shown much more clearly with facial scarring, even less feathering and stressed posturing> Attempted to purchase two new crocodile skinks on the down low before a smaller pettuber ratted on the cover-up of the deaths> Claiming that she's one of the few pettubers that is actually up front with the accident and the issues they have, despite trying to continuous hide the deaths of her mantis shrimp, lionfish, skinks, pacman frog etc for weeks-months after they happened> More enclosures being shown with completely empty water dishes> Cheese died suddenly, convenietly when she released new merch featuring him, has been pushing her merch harder than usual> She has alluded to a ‘friend’ that has a cowfish twice the size of cheese that she may replace Cheese with (if she hasn’t already)> Gave Cheese a “viking funeral” then sent him for autopsy (put him on a boat during a monetized video)> Videos calling out her care have stated to take over searches for her> In combination with the call-out videos on YT, after she posted the video of Cheese’s “funeral” TND began to hemmorage subscribers> Other pettubers began making (monetized) videos to defend TND and claiming that they were worried that “the bullying against Taylor” might ‘make her’ self harm> Other pettubers begin distancing themselves from TND> TND shuts off comments on the videos and instagram posts around cheese amid mass criticism > Has been bouncing deactivations on her twitter and instagram during the controversy around Cheese> Animals purchased in the last ~ month: Texas Rat Snake, Halloween Crab, 3 Rats, 2 Crocodile Skinks, Sinaloan Milksnake, Scorpion, Ghost Mantis> Recent Known Deaths: Orchid Mantis, Mantis Shrimp, Pacman Frog, Crocodile Skinks, Zazu, CheeseAll Previous Threads:
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Just another lovely comment to what ever!
Remember, cyberbullying is wrong people!
No. 613367
>>613342Any program will do. You're not trying to win awards or get a following for well shot videos, it's just a video to get the info out there.
>>613365Idk, maybe drugs? Did she ever do meetups and actually show up before she started seeing Jonny? She'll probably blame her anxiety or whatever, but if you know you have social anxiety you just wouldn't sign up to do these events. The fact that she keeps saying she'll go and not going is suspicious.
No. 613377
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"I don't struggle with hair algae"
Bryopsis is literally hair algae, moron. That said, fluconazole likely wouldn't have killed Cheese, as fish don't create and use ergosterol…unless she was a complete fucking moron and OVERDOSED the tank, but I'd suspect that some of the other fishies, especially the small ones like Cheese, would have died as well. Cheese probably died from stress and neglect, not her attempts to use fluconazole. Her trying to blame fluc. for Cheese's death reeks of another convenient crutch for her to use to hide her neglect.
No. 613393
>>613365I think it's a mixture of Johnny not letting her go without him, and anxiety. She's not really in control of these meet & greet things, so she can't control what people post online, like pictures or people talking about what she's doing. Not to mention that maybe she's lowkey afraid someone might call her out publicly.
All in all, she's highly sheltered, bordering on reclusive, so it's easier for her to have all her interactions online because she can control the setting.
No. 613514
>>613365Anxiety. She shows up on occasion, but she seems to hate events where she can't control her image. She's gotta get those perfect angles so no one will know what she actually looks like, which isn't bad, but is a far cry from the image she crafts using makeup, careful angles, probably lots of retakes, and sometimes Facetune.
The most obvious example of this was in Emma's video of Taylor's pets. Taylor is only in the periphery once, IIRC, which is really strange since it's a video about HER pets. She's not cool being in someone's video if they're controlling the angles, especially if she's not fully slathered in makeup. I don't think she liked being in Emma's other video where she was shown as her normal self.
The only time she seems to be cool with someone else's filming is when she's got all her makeup on and there's a tripod involved, so no possible angle changes. I don't know that she really likes taking pictures with fans for this reason.
No. 613550
>>613538I don’t think I’ve ever seen a video of someone talking like one of those people who type 50 words with no full stops.
I feel somewhat mean to say that these two seem like the kind of girls who dropped out of school at 15 to go be with their ‘hot’ sugar daddy.
No. 613579
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Someone on twitter pointed out that Twisty's tail looks completely fine & not rotted at all in these first photos of him…
No. 613638
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Check out this smug kid
Gotta love the commenters who only watched what ever's response videos & try to say that she 'doesn't show any proof' in them, pretending to look objective.
You fucking know that they're not gonna watch any of the actual call-out videos with all the screenshots in them
No. 613660
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Managed to capture this still from a video on Jonny's Instagram, posted back on December 25th 2017. It's a bit blurry, but it gives a much better look at the tail than the photos taken at that time. The very tip looks odd, but the rest appears normal. I don't know much about Beardies though, so hopefully someone more knowledgeable can give their thoughts.
No. 613666
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>>613638Also: BADASS ALERT!
No. 613669
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While we are on the topic, these are some of my favorite stan comments. Pure maturity
No. 613674
>>613660Honestly his tail was completely normal. Dark tail colouration is totally normal for a beardie and his tail looks like a normal beardie tail. He might have had a tiny bit of stuck shed on the very tip of his tail and even if Taylor severely neglected him to the point where the very tip of his tail died (stuck shed is incredibly easy to remove so there's no excuse), the tip would just drop off and cause him no further issues. It definitely would not cause such an extensive injury as what Twisty ended up with. They 100% did something to injure his tail to cause it to rot and need amputating half way up.
And even if his tail was kinked like she claims, tail kinks are so common in beardies they rarely ever cause issues and a lot of them are born with a kinked tail, even severe kinks will likely not cause any issues. But Twisty didn't seem to have an injured tail here from what i can tell.
No. 613702
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>>613669>>613671Another favorite is the ones that emphasize "I'm not a fan of Taylor, BUT…"
No. 613732
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>> "upoliside"
No. 613734
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>> "YOU ARE SO ANNOYING WOW"
>>"You people are so sensitive"
No. 613747
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I noticed that most people try to prove Taylor isn't a hoarder by showing photos of filthy homes of cat/dog-hoarders…
Well, here's a few screencaps of an exotic animal hoarder's home
No. 613772
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What are we looking at here? A snake in her crotch while wearing lingerie? Wtf?
No. 613778
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Taylor has the sweetest fans…
No. 613779
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Enough of the bad comments, here's a good comment
No. 613798
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>>613796Nope she’s just going to keep telling us her vet thinks the animals are doing absolutely amazing
No. 613801
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Was looking for a tweet & I came across one that… didn't age well…
No. 613804
>>613798It's probably not suspicious her vets compliment her, because a lot of vets do that to make sure owners don't stop trying with whatever they're doing. The really suspicious thing is how, according to her, her vets never give her suggestions to improve care, except when she takes a sick animal in and it dies/almost dies because she listened to the vet, who was wrong, and Taylor of course "did everything right!"
Like my vet knows I spoil my cats and do a lot of research about their care, so she really does tell me my cats are in great shape when they are. But I also very, very rarely leave an appointment without her suggesting things on her own or giving me advice about questions I'd had, because care can ALWAYS be improved upon.
No good vet will just wave you off with a "you're doing fine!" because your pet isn't dead yet. It's literally their job to suggest or improve the animal's daily life if they can. Also, haven't people said the vet she sees isn't that great according to local reviews, though?
No. 613807
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Okay, I know y'all don't want any more comments, but I found a REAL winner here
No. 613821
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>>613807Another one invoking the law
No. 613827
>>613821Lol didn't Chelsea get a restraining order easily because Jonny just didn't bother to show up in court? Even if what ever were doing anything illegal, which they're not, I don't think they'd have to worry about Jonny taking successful legal action.
Also, Chelsea does have a restraining order against him… idk what else this stan wants legally, but he has been found abusive enough for a judge to grant an order, right? I'm not sure what all a restraining order requires, but it isn't nothing.
No. 613830
>>613822(Anon who asked the question here) That’s the thing that was holding me back. Though her fans are really entertaining, there isn’t really any milk. I think I’ll wait for now, the fans can keep us all entertained while Taylor is quiet. But if people start getting annoyed over it, I’ll make a suggestion. (Ok, done with the borderline blogposting, sorry.)
>>613821Wow these Stans really don’t think things through at all. Can you just imagine a guy who’s a known rapist, abuser, and drug addict waltzing into court and going “This random person on the internet said mean things about my girlfriend!!!!”
Also, he would probably rather spend money on drugs than on pursuing a court case to try and defend his ATM- I mean girlfriend.
No. 613848
>>613844They were probably trying to scare what ever into deleting her videos & channel.
Which sounds kinda like blackmail to me…(Something ELSE the stans accused what ever of doing before)
No. 613856
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>>613807"Oh shit, time to backpedal! What I REALLY meant was.. Uh, Youtube will take it down & fine her… uh… yeah! Take that!"
No. 613864
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what…?
No. 613872
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I'm what ever, I've been talking to Liz's friend in private and she sent me some old milk and screenshots she hasn't released before of the conversation she had with Taylor warning her about Jonny.
If you look at the dates it's before she even met Jonny irl and the friend is very polite and kind in the messages. I figured I'd post it so we have proof that Taylor doesn't listen even if people nicely talk to her in private.
No. 613873
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Taylor also strongly implies having past issues with drugs
No. 613874
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Last one, this is when Taylor got with Jonny. The friend is still polite and concerned but Taylor stopped answering
No. 613880
>>613872Oh but remember, she wanted
'the experience'
No. 613882
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I'm sure they would be fine with providing proof, they gave me permission to upload the dm's.
Blocking out their name just in case but Jonny has also been a gross dumbass to them.
Have the texts between him and Liz already been posted in which he tells her to kill herself?
No. 613885
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Should I just post the things I haven't seen before? It's like 4 things but I don't wanna spam if it's old milk
No. 613892
>>613807>>613809>>613821>>613824>>613856>>613858>>613861This is some really pathetic samefagging.
Quit derailing about stans and youtube comments, thanks.
No. 613901
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Ok nonnys. This is from her dad, sadly no name or anything so it's kind of useless
No. 613902
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No. 613903
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No. 613904
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No. 613905
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Another one between the friend and her
No. 613916
I'm making a slightly updated playlist of TND information videos (a lot of ones don't seem to be up to date)
updating it cause the link only linked one video but
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXzFggZ7P2o&list=PLtZImbLh4WUy6tfwLuU4UgGTIW3iYMfQ6But while going through the videos I noticed this Tyla Brauer chick on a lot of them and I'm beginning to wonder if she has the goal/want to be Taylor.
No. 613941
>>613798Maybe it's just me, but I have NEVER had a vet tell ME I'm doing "amazing" or that my animal is doing "amazing". It's always along the lines of "they are healthy" or "healing nicely" if it's going back in for removing stitches, check-up from a problem, etc.
Sorry,but no vet describes an animal as "amazing" in regards to their health, because their job isn't to make sure then animal is amazing. It's to make sure the are healthy. I volunteer with cats and small animals in the hospital ward, so I'm around vets and nurses all the time and perhaps other people have had different experiences with their vets, but she seriously tries to oversell her vet visits. At best the vet would have said "yeah, the rat is healthy, nothing wrong, next". She's so full of shit the toilet's jealous.
No. 613973
>>613966funny how he gets so aggressive towards any of his exs, yet he tweets, write songs, compare them with Taylor, and talks about them ALL the time.
Taylor is spoiling an abusive druggie that deserves to be kicked to the streets where he has no where else to go. He obviously doesn't care about her unless her wallet is open
No. 613976
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I wonder if Taylor is going to lose all the subscribers she bought
No. 613999
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Lol is this taylor’s
No. 614125
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>>613976She's definitely losing some.
No. 614196
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No. 614197
>>614196she promised she would have a video out Wednesday night or maybe Thursday morning, it's now Saturday. so she was lying about that video if she was really "taking some time away"
>>612933 screenshot of tweet in last thread
No. 614199
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>>614196looks like they’re both in a funk
No. 614232
>>614199"depression"
yeah more like "I need to make Taylor feel sorry for me because I did something wrong"
No. 614264
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Let's hope she doesn't accidentally eat gluten again.
No. 614273
>>614267I agree. Taylor knew from the beginning what kind of person JC was and went ahead anyway, she deluded herself into thinking she was different, that she'd be the one to change him.
I think Taylor soon realized that wasn't the case, she has zero control over him at all and he continues to tarnish the image she tries to present - that he's sober, changed, etc. At this point she's in too deep. He knows too much, has seen too much and Taylor knows whats in store for her if she breaks things off. I don't have sympathy for her.
No. 614323
>>614321Yeah I'm not really sure what other anons are talking about, I've seen about 4 vets in the last 5 years with a variety of pets and a move, plus more before that when I used to bring in foster pets and didn't even choose the vet, and they all give compliments. They never say "your pet is perfect!" because they always offer suggestions or things to check on in the future, but they say "you're doing a great job" or similar pretty frequently.
The unbelievable things about Taylor's story are that 1) They seem to say that all her pets are perfect, including the ones with prolapses or tails rotting off… 2) They apparently never DON'T tell her her pets are perfect, I mean sure 1 or 2 could be doing great, but she's telling us EVERY vet at EVERY appointment says Taylor does a perfect job, even when she brings in a kitten hours from death? 3) I'm certain they offer suggestions too, or at least they would if all her pets really go to the vet 4x a year or whatever she claims, how come we never hear about those?
No. 614324
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Actually threw up in my mouth
No. 614327
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There was a voice in this story that sounded similar to Taylor’s, it could’ve been the television I’m not sure. Can any Anon that’s good with distinguishing voices confirm that this was the TV?
No. 614330
>>614327I'm about 99% it's her. Transcript of what she says "if it's still bad I'll go, but I don't think it will be. Like, my bodies just fucked baby. Have you (not 100% what shes saying here but it sounds like" heard my mouth") these last few days?"
Sounds like he's trying to talk her into going to the doctors? Maybe the reason for her newest dissappearing act.
No. 614355
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Another unflattering photo. Tinfoil but he has to be doing it on purpose
No. 614380
>>614355Of course he is. And he probably says that he does it because "she doesn't have to feel bad about her appearance". Like he's clearly doing her a favor.
To be honest their lives look so fucking boring. They're always at home sleeping or getting high.
No. 614389
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Rip her mouth
No. 614400
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Jesus
No. 614401
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Pans the camera to show Ghost right there…about a foot away from the rat.
No. 614413
>>614401I don’t have rats so I’m not an expert or anything but wouldn’t the scent of a cat scare a rat??
And wouldn’t the cat smelling the rat be a bad idea?
No. 614414
>>614401I don’t have rats so I’m not an expert or anything but wouldn’t the scent of a cat scare a rat??
And wouldn’t the cat smelling the rat be a bad idea?
No. 614424
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She also looks…weird in that video, like sick/sad/slow?
No. 614425
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>>614420Here we go. Jonny is such a cave man
No. 614426
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And also the one in which she sounds like a crack head
No. 614449
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He's always covered in fresh pick marks and what appear to be injection site marks. How do people believe he's sober?
>>614426Wow she really does sound like a crackhead rambling on in the background. Again, how do people believe either of them are sober?
No. 614452
>>614424>>614426it looks like she has bumps / lumps on the corner of her mouth, added to the slurred speech and her actual words makes me think she got lip injections done and they're either painful or just fucked up.
>>614324he legit looks like he's got one foot in the grave. Like his skin is made of wax or something. Dude is dying
No. 614459
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>>614324how is it physically possible for a human to look so much like a bull terrier?
No. 614461
>>614459IM SCREAMING THIS IS SO ACCURATE
always thought those dogs were fucking weird looking (all dogs are good dogs tho) but like omg the pastey featureless flat mask look is just too similar
No. 614462
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>>614424>>614389The sides of her mouth are really puffed up even though Johnny's trying to play it like they're posing purposefully. You can look at his mouth and look at hers and immediately tell she's not inflating her cheeks, they're like that by themselves because her entire cheek isn't expanded, it's just around her lips.
No. 614472
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>>614461They are fucking weird looking because humans have bred them to look fucking weird.
Speaking of humans breeding animals to look fucking weird, has Taylor's fetish for mutant snakes been discussed? Has she ever commented on the ethics of breeding them?
No. 614481
>>614472sorry for ot but those dogs look like overstuffed sausages in dog form lol. kind of like how Jonny is starting to look from his liver failure. fat little sausage fingers.
>>614479also is there a chance that her lip injections have been bad literally from the start because her EDS complicates the way her body reacts to them? idk much about EDS or fillers but like girl, it's obvious they don't work for you, stop trying to make fetch happen and get them dissolved. I know some anons have EDS and idk how it changes the success of implants
No. 614504
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No. 614534
>>614504Must be desperate for money if she's doing yet another "all my pets". I like how Taylor mentions she's also showing enclosures this time, after all the controversy it's time to prove the haturz wrong now that she's had weeks to clean and prepare lol.
Pity cleaning the enclosures doesn't suddenly make the correct size, though.
No. 614614
The Lyin' Queen posted a new Insta story sounding perfectly normal/like always (as far as I can tell).
Around 20h after johnboy posted the very unsettling story of her slurring speech, probably rolling or coked up.
>>614426My guess is that she burned her lips/mouth smoking a pipe + fresh lip injections. Or she chewed on her cheek/lips/tounge while rolling.
>>614462Also I can tell from a mile away that the pimple on her forehead is a amphetamine induced one.
Praying for a kind anon who can screencap her new story.
No. 614630
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Does “whiskey cake” have gluten free on their menu? Sorry the pic is blurry…it’s a snap of her scanning the menu…
No. 614641
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wut?
No. 614656
>>614614amazing skills to be able to read a pimple like that.
is there any reason you can't cap the story yourself or even say which part is of interest? there's nothing dramatic or capworthy that I can see.
No. 614657
>>614530Lots of fishkeepers have their fish on "unnatural" cycles, they don't have to line up with the actual daylight outside as long as the tank lights are consistent. We don't know hers are, but then being on at 9:30 isn't really proof of anything.
>>614481I know a lot about EDS but not much about lip fillers. I can't imagine her EDS would mess them up quite like it could with her tattoos, there's not much to be affected except maybe slower healing. I think it's more likely she's just getting cheap fillers and too many of them.
No. 614757
>>614381to me it sounds like she’s saying “you hurt my mouth” in the video. i can easily imagine jonny getting fucked up and being rough with her. she sounds all sorts of wasted in that vid too.
i’m an anon who has gotten lip injections 3 times and while your lips do swell for a few days, they hardly hurt at all after the fact (not enough to be in the amount of discomfort she appears to be in by the tone of her voice). iono if this is considered blogging but i find it to be relevant, my lips are a bit larger than hers and i only have a slight lisp for maybe a day after i get them done. her voice itself sounds different here and her mood is obviously volatile, and for whatever reason he’s sitting there filming a goddamn shoe while his girlfriend is spazzing out, personally i believe they’re both completely zooted off of drugs here.
No. 614760
>>614757I’m not sure what phones you anons are using but it’s 100% clear for me to hear.
“If it’s still bad I’ll go but I don’t think it will be, like my body’s just fucked baby, have you heard my mouth these last few days?”
No. 614796
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Came across this and nearly fell out of my chair. It’s hilarious because she’s on her way there.
No. 614805
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lol here we go again
No. 614806
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Her Instagram is still up buuuuut
No. 614850
>>614845Supposedly it takes abuse victims around 8 times before they leave for real. I don't think they'll break up yet without going through an engagement before, at the very least.
I do gotta say Taylor has been looking particularly miserable as of lately. Like, her semblant looks like she's done.
No. 614872
>>614845he probably love bombs her when he starts to get a feeling that she wants to leave him and probably gets passively angry once she gives in by recording her "ugly" side on his ig story.
they're a mess and it's obvious that the relationship is toxic af but her stans are brainless like her so they can't see it.
No. 614905
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I guess Taylor watches his tweets like a hawk
No. 614906
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Maybe it's because I haven't looked at her twitter in a while, but for me Jonny is out her bio again
No. 614975
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oh dear
No. 614978
>>614975I highly doubt it, but I hope she's gone MIA and is currently moving all Jonny's shit out and getting her locks changed. He just left to go on tour, now's the time to do it. I don't think she is, but it would be nice, and I wouldn't blame her (this one single time) for not following through on her promises of videos if she was doing something so productive for her personal life.
we all know she doesn't have the initiative or backbone to cut off the leech for good, though
No. 615020
>>615007and theyre supposed to live for like 10years. poor crab. god knows whats happened to it's corpse if that video of cheese was anything to go by.
unrelated but has anyone watched serpadesigns before? his setups are amazing and he actually takes care of his pets.
No. 615044
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>>615007I was scrolling through her Instagram and the last photo of Ursula was this. She also posted a picture of Triton in October, JUST before she got Star.
There was a crab in her photo book, but idk which one it was.
No. 615046
>>615044Wtf so she was last seen in April? That's such a long time ago. Taylor is probably pulling the same shit as with the shrimp and Zazu, just hoping people won't notice.
Her enclosure for them was awful so I wouldn't be surprised if she and the new crab fought to death or she mismolted.
No. 615072
>>615071lbr, she already knows she fucked up with the medication and that she killed Cheese with it.
I hate that I'm reacting exactly like she wants but I'm curious why she deleted her Twitter. It's so random
No. 615074
>>615066It's the same thing as the last time she did her fish care video.
>Promises a video>Bunch of fish are dead and going to be missing>Suddenly she announces they died after disappearing because she's soooooo upsetRepeat
No. 615076
>>615066I mean she has a habit of being super over dramatic about stuff like this "I wasn't ready to talk about it, needed a mental break because X died"
I mean she just came back from "a break" and promised another video soon, suddenly has deleted her twitter, so something is very off imo.
No. 615081
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Accidentally posted wrong uncensored version.
She's having a victim moment again.
No. 615095
>>615044I hate the retarded names she picks for her pets. They sound like names chosen by a fifth grader, not a woman old enough to drink.
They're all inane Disney references (Mushu, Ursula, Triton) or the first improper noun that goes through her pea-brain when she sees and impulse buys them (Star, Goose, Cheese, Ghost).
>>614426Taylor sounds like Amouranth here. "I'm being phone harassed!11!!1"
Also barf at her calling Walking Hepatitis "baby".
No. 615129
>>615069I'm still not even convinced she was able to get a necropsy on him. I could see her freaking out over that a little, behind the scenes, but it would be so easy for her to lie about it I doubt it'd be why she deleted her twitter.
>>615111 you might be right that's what she thinks she's doing. Idk why she thinks she has to bother having a twitter at all if it's just SOOOOO hard for her to deal with the drama of it. She could easily make money on just her youtube videos (if she could ever upload any) and avoid a lot of drama by just being on that platform. I used to watch her videos and if it weren't for her twitter I'd probably have no idea about the Jonny stuff or quite how many pets she hoards. I guess she's just far too narcissistic and obsessed with attention to stay off twitter/instagram.
No. 615158
>>615144Several people have claimed to know more about the inner workings however they never provide proof.
If you can produce a screen shot though, especially if it’s taylors own words then that would change so much.
No. 615206
>>615169Pretty sure she was required to phone them back per the notice she got. Who knows if she did, but she's going to have a hard time showing all her animal cages sans animals if AC takes them away for her not calling and fixing her permits or something.
>>615166 I agree especially because she had that funeral and Cheese was "sitting on her kitchen counter" in her sob video about his death, there's no way he wasn't too decomposed to be analyzed. She did call that vet in her video and have them say they'd do a necropsy, so I'm confused whether she faked that or if her vet is scamming her or what happened there.
No. 615334
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looks like she forgot to delete these comments
No. 615362
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Interesting post from Amanda, ironic she says this now that jonny is on tour and away from taylor.
No. 615365
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Dunno if this has been posted yet but Jesus how many times has she changed the assistant story by now? Are her fish and reptile assistant gone now?
No. 615373
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This was one of JC’s pets that he abandoned and left in someone else’s care.
No. 615438
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sooooooo sober you guys
No. 615616
>>615613See I totally get this. I totally get the mentality young women like her get about "fixing" bad boys or playing the cool girlfriend. I was one of those. But what makes her situation different is that she got warned not once, not twice, not thrice, but SEVERAL times by different people, and she either mocked his exes, or straight up downplays the severity of his past actions. And on top of everything she doubles down on her "perfect relationship" and how sober he is even when there's proof of this not being the case.
Taylor isn't special nor different to the women he's dated. She's not an exception to the rule, and it doesn't matter how much she tries telling herself she's loved and cared for, she's still dating an abuser and a rapist who's nowhere near the stellar image of the boyfriend she so desperately wants to show to the world. He's a manchild living in a fantasy world where flexing shoes and tacky designer clothes somehow equate to success. And she's so stubborn she'll wait until he dies and milk the whole "grieving girlfriend" thing than breaking up with him and admit she fucked up massively. I used to feel sympathy for her, but now? After the several warnings she got and her subsequent attitude, whatever happens she brought upon herself.
No. 615671
>>615639I think it's both, wanting to be that "rockstar baddie girlfriend" and a fix for her saviour complex which she time and time again shows with her rEsCuEd animals too.
It makes sense to me she deactivated her twitter right now if they been on a drug binge. I am not buying the whole "it's cuz the HaTeRz" thing either given how she usually loves to reply in her snarky ways.
Chelsea, did those withdrawal weeks cause a lot of fights etc? I can see him get really nasty during those moments anyways
No. 615746
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>>615739She deletes most of them, but here's a reply to one she missed, the original tweet was something passive aggressive about people in abusive situations
No. 615747
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I'm pretty sure this is about jonny/taylor aswell, it's a video of an older guy dancing
No. 615748
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And then this one, but i couldn't tell if it was directed at taylor or any of the ex's. I've seen more, but she deletes them as quickly as she posts them usually
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No. 615780
>>615709That makes sense, thank you for replying. How would he react to Taylor if she is having a rough time physically herself you reckon? You think he would just use instead then if he can't be his personal maid?
>>615748Fuck this woman is such a walking contradiction and mess trying to sound oh so wise. Taylor really takes after her mother.
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No. 615828
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Swollen as fuck hands
No. 615829
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Just gross and totally the opposite of sober
No. 615879
>>615829where tf are his teeth? It looks like the front teeth are missing.
It's so frustrating that Taylor keeps promising videos and never ever keeps her promises. I don't know how her fans can keep up with that.
No. 616028
>>616024I hope she is doing this and I do hope people support her when she does leave JC. But what I'm dreading is her ultimate sob story of how she "left her abusive junkie boyfriend boohoo poor me".
Like no she doesn't deserve to be the situation she's in, but at the same time I have zero sympathy.
No. 616112
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No. 616127
>>616125The problem is they know he is that way, but it's an echo chamber. Taylor and her stans have this weird, misguided optimistic outlook on life where the scummiest people on earth can be uwu saved and uwu change uwuwuwuwu.
You could say it's immaturity, but the problem is that Taylor is in a position of influence, which makes these people think that as long as you "talk things out" and "are kind uwu", human garbage like Jonny will change their ways.
No. 616144
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>>615968He did. I posted this earlier from a video but he totes has a cheap bridge/flipper
No. 616150
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No. 616185
>>616180I don't understand why you won't cross out half of Taylors number just to make it credible.
It takes 20 seconds and many more people would believe you. As it is now we can't trust you simply because we've had many people come on here and claim things that were just made up. Something as important as a death should be taken seriously enough to prove it beyond a screenshot that could easily be faked.
No. 616225
>>616150Fake unless provided with further proof.
Also anon, it's your not you're. Your Twitter NOT you're (you are) Twitter.
No need to thank me
No. 616228
>>616208Dude do you know where you are? Needlessly stirring up the pot sums up 90% of all posts here. People act like it's all about the animals yet most of us speculate about aspects of Taylor's personal life that have nothing to do with her animal care.
I don't even think the conversation is real but people acting all up and mighty whenever someone with potential real milk posts is fucking hilarious.
No. 616241
>>616228>Dude do you know where you are? Do you? it's not interesting until we know whether it's true. Potential milk is not actual milk.
When someone makes an unfounded claim everyone shits on them, that's what stops people roleplaying and just making shit up left right and centre.
you can't convince an outsider to the board to prove their claims with shit only people who come here care about. If they're real, they're a moralfag and we'll get proof and therefore confirmation of real milk via a moralfag argument. No. 616246
>>616218Her other milksnake is named Prada. Unless she got another one I don't know about.
>>616224Snakes can live quite a while without food, but they don't last long without fresh water. Even an escaped pet snake that was loose for six months before being found again had some kind of water supply or it would died long before it was discovered. Since we've seen bone dry water bowls, it really wouldn't surprise me to hear one day that she lost a snake.
No. 616274
>>616180Honestly think this anon is a pet tuber in their clique. Thanks for sharing but showing the last four digits would have helped to make the screenshot more valid. I guess we'll keep an eye out for a petuber who is no longer kissing Tay's ass within the coming weeks to guess who anon is.
Very sad to hear Gucci is possibly dead. Don't know much about snakes but I have geckos and know most reptiles are hearty as fuck. If this comes out true, I don't know how knowledgeable pet owners can still defend a girl who can't keep a snake alive for longer than a year, on TOP of the other recently deceased animals.
No. 616298
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This is the last pic I could find of Gucci (#1) on her insta. She posted about Gucci #2 a while later. Gucci #2 and Prada are the same snake, to the anon who asked.
No. 616312
>>616150Breezexotics has an Android
Tyler and Maddie have blanks for their providers? Don’t know what that means
Emmilee uses Verizon
Emma Lynne uses Telus
Could this be Betsy? It’s weirdly specific to use Boost Mobile, and I don’t imagine a YouTuber with any level of success would
No. 616327
>>616324I think it's hard to believe because it was a screenshot randomly dropped and then their defense is
>>616159>uhh we're all anonymous xD care about the TRUTHeven though the truth is what we're trying to figure out
then
>>616180>think about the animals!I thought we were supposed to care about the TRUTH, but then changes the topic completely to
>just believe me don't you care about animalsSeems like someone just wanted a bunch of replies and maybe add some fuel to the drama, also it's not hard to fake a phone convo so that's a null point. Proving something is real is much more helpful for finding THE TRUTH instead of just dropping a random screenshot and going "believe me, be my personal army xD"
No. 616371
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>>616364
I would say it’s relevant since a good portion of this thread has been theorizing about that instastory, if she can’t talk she hasn’t been making videos to hide it.
No. 616376
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Just begging for attention
No. 616493
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No. 616502
>>616493Honestly this thing reads as Taylor kinda going somewhere like rehab alone.
>>616376This motherfucker though.
No. 616511
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No. 616520
>>616493Lmao at all the people commenting on how they "love that she rides".
It's clearly a trail ride. That's not riding horses. Her stand are such idiots.
No. 616524
>>616511That's a Western bit for Western reigning.
>>616493But the facility has her holding a thin cord looped around the middle of the reigns?
Trail ride facility horses are so used to the routine they require little guidance. I worked at a horse camp for disabled kids. Those horses were on autopilot.
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No. 616568
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Looks like she got her lip fillers out
No. 616578
>>616568Ive been around horses my whole life. Betsy’s horse looks chill and comfy. TNDs horse looks pissed. Ears back, eyes slitted. I’m only speculating, but she’s probably holding the reigns too tight and putting unnecessary pressure on the poor things mouth.
I’m surprised “crazy horse girl” didn’t correct her before the photo op.
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1/4
No. 616595
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and the other 3
No. 616619
>>616607While we're at it, no one can own animals for fun either!
Get out of here with your PETA bullshit.
No. 616632
>>613294>>616573FFS it could be a snaffle for all we know. Snaffles are the piece in the mouth; but yes, it's a leverage bit based on the shanks. Rings on the outside are loose rings.
Sounds like before anyone points fingers about horseback riding being abusive, people need to figure out WTF is happening first.
No. 616646
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No. 616666
>>616632No, it can't be a snaffle bit.
Wikipedia definition of snaffle bit:A snaffle is not necessarily a bit with a jointed bit mouthpiece, as is often thought. A bit is a snaffle because it creates direct pressure without leverage on the mouth. It is a bit without a shank. Therefore, a single- or double-jointed mouthpiece, though the most common designs for snaffle bits, does not make a bit a snaffle. Even a mullen mouth (a solid, slightly curved bar) or a bar bit is a snaffle.
Last thing I'm going to post on the subject, it's a can of worms that will get the thread off topic faster than Jen can fire off crazy comments. It doesn't really matter what kind of equipment Bestsy uses because it's so subjective, but she SHOULD be able to correctly identify it.
No. 616688
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Sacramento expo (September 31st, October 1st)
- V//R
No. 616701
>>616700Continuation, you guys are upset about the bit when she's wearing no helmet.
Riding anywhere without a helmet is irresponsible and dangerous. Any animal handler worth shit knows you never ride without a helmet. That's a legitimate problem because she's giving a very dangerous example.
No. 616703
>>616688Whoever posted this, posted the last screen shot about her disabling her twitter (both on boost) but the name is different? (One Taylor and one Taylor deanz) unless you fhanged it recently?
What does VR stand for anyway?
No. 616717
>>616700The reins are attached
>>616568 but she's holding onto a cord looped through them
>>616493 the purpose of which I don't understand, unless it's to save her precious nails.
>>616701Whoever provided the horses seems to be very casual about what their customers wear which is common for a lot of horse rental places. And helmets are not standard kit for Western.
>>616710Seriously.
No. 616720
>>616717>>616717Inexperienced riders need to steady using their hands so those loops are used to make sure they don't pull on reins and instead on the loop.
She's not a western rider, she's a first time rider ON A TRAIL with no helmet on a horse that is not familiar. She should absolutely be wearing a helmet and long pants. It's very irresponsible to let a first timer ride with improper gear in a trail.
No. 616737
>>616731honestly cant we just report the damn posts and move on unless the mods confirm them somehow
this thread has gone downhill since that whatever anon stopped doing videos, people started obsessing over details and shit that wasn't even there
No. 616747
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Looks like he’s really turning up his emotional manipulation.
No. 616753
>>616750Animals can stay alone for a few hours if they're not sick or something, it's not that big a deal.
Jonny is being ridiculously whiny. Either he's going through withdrawal like Chelsea said or Taylor and him fought. Is he going home or to a different venue?
No. 616774
>>616688I think this is real solely because it reads exactly like Taylor speaks. Especially the “lmao” bc Taylor always tweets that. I think the person is scared to include part of Tays number for some reason? But Boost anon if you would just include a couple of numbers and blur or mark out the rest it would show these texts are completely valid. But for what it’s worth I believe it— especially bc it’s not so milky that it’s unbelievable.
However sharing proof in the form of part of Taylor’s cell phone number shouldn’t be a big deal bc Taylor reads here anyway and she will know exactly who is leaking these.
No. 616795
>>616774anyone can fake how Taylor speaks tho, esp since the other fake texts were blatantly called out for not sounding like her. if this screenshot is fake (which it prob is) the person who made it would obv put more effort since the others were fake as fuck.
I think this is just another bored person trying to store things up. unless you can prove you texted her, can you guys stop with the texts…
No. 616806
She has a long way to go to be a better person, but I can’t take her claims of getting better seriously until she gets rid of Jonny completely. If she’s smart, she would be planning right now how she will safely get him out. Since he goes back on tour soon, that wouldn’t be hard to do.
>>616747They’re definitely having issues, if Taylor is seriously considering getting him out of her life like we are all hoping, I’m sure he feels it too. I can’t even imagine the shit Jonny would/will say when they inevitably break up.
No. 616819
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Why do you go through the effort to make an edit a video defending Taylor and then like tweets by what ever?
The pet community is so strange
Anyway here’s the like I didn’t include more but anyone can look at what evers Twitter
No. 616855
>>616703I don't like being anonymous, but to follow the rules, I'm remaining anonymous with initials.
Some of the people here will figure out quickly what the V//R stands for and should be aware from that alone, the text are real.
I have plenty more "milk" as well I've been keeping to myself for awhile largely in part because many people here don't seem to care about the information I've obtained due to who I am.
but, I got tired of holding onto info that could very well help in the long run to exposing multiple issues in Taylors words.
Just depends how willing ya'll are to listen to me.
No. 616857
>>616856I posted with her area code and last four digits. I'm not posting the full number due to legal reasons behind exposing someones personal number online is against the law in my state.
If the area code and last four aren't good enough, don't know what to do for you.
-V//R
No. 616872
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Jayce has been busy dropping hints.
No. 616877
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>>616872He was at the Sacramento Reptile Expo as well, which was mentioned in the text. It all makes sense now. I'm… kinda ashamed it took such obvious hints for us to figure it out.
No. 616882
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V//R is jayce coming here for attention again. Thought he wasn't on speaking terms with taytay hmmm
No. 616889
>>616855You can always email the admin, give them a preview of what you'll be dumping and get a tripcode issued (if warranted) lolcow.farm@gmail.com. Obviously we are interested in any serious leaks. Keyword serious.
Also as you have flip-flopped in your support for TND in the past, expect some doubt until we see he nature of the material you have.
No. 616899
>>616890IIRC the notice she showed was because of licensing. Which really could be for any of her pets.
But Kronos being a dangerous large monitor is one they would most likey take away rather than just issue a fine.
No. 616903
>>616899You're correct about what she showed. Also I think she may need licensing not just for specific animals but just to have that many in one place. Not sure about San Antonio laws, but I know that would be needed where I live.
Also I think that the AC paper she showed stated the complaint specifically mentioned Kronos, which means they may have investigated him more specifically than her other pets.
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>>616903Found it. She seems pretty fucked.
No. 616912
>>616904Animal Control usually acts very quickly, being slow allows people to make changes and cover their tracks. So if any action was taken, it would have already happened. It goes pretty deep into speculation territory, but yes, it is possible that this hiatus was caused by Animal Control visiting and finding some sort of issue. It would have been a major blow to her ego for her to realize that she can't do whatever she likes, and that she isn't above the law.
Oh, and if an animal was taken from her, she would either have to consent to surrender the animal to Animal Control and give up ownership, or she would have to go to court in order to battle to get the animal back. It's not just "Hey we're taking this animal, goodbye!" It's an entire legal process, similar to a custody battle for a child. (But not as complex.) Just wanted to add that in to clear up any misconceptions about how that works.
No. 616929
>>616904Honestly, she's fine (as much as it annoys me to admit it). A lot of pocket pets/ reptiles/ etc don't have number limits on them. Someone could own 60 hamsters and no one would blink an eye because cats and dogs reign supreme in the animal world, typically.
I work in a similar field (except less bylaws and more actual welfare) and they automatically have to attend if there's a new concern - such as an aggressive monitor. It usually means a chat with the owner,assessing the animal/ environment. TND's care is subpar, 100%, but it won't be by their standard since majority of her animals won't really fall under their realm and it's not subpar enough for them to take actual action.
Plus as another anon said, they act fast. If something was going to happen, they would have done it. TND is shit but so are a lot of the regulations involving animals
No. 616931
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>>616904I know whatever animal control did probably already happened, but lets not gloss over the fact that
she got in trouble with animal control!This has got to be the milkiest possible reason for the hiatus, barring only a breakup with Jonny.
Let's see her dipshit fans defend her after this. Fucking animal control came in on neglect reports- that's pretty damn irrefutable.
No. 616936
>>616935And that's assuming that they didn't do anything, because would we know if they did and Taylor didn't just keep it quiet?
I think the ACS visit scared her a lot. Hence that manipulative tweet about how "if they take my animals away they'll all die because they're reptiles and fish!" which is just Taylor being manipulative AF to her fans/former fans who genuinely care about the animals.
No. 616937
>>616936If they had taken any away she would've whined about it. It would've been very easy to manipulate people by blaming the mean haters. None of her animals conditions are bad enough to be taken away though, I would be really shocked if something actually happened.
Definitely agree that the visit scared her though. I also think this was the first time ACS actually showed up
No. 616940
>>616931I don't really think much happened, it's been a while since she got that warning. But I do think it's the first time she actually got ACS called on her ass. I remember when she moved into the apartment she kept claiming people were calling ACS and that they had checked "several times" with her and everything was perfect.
This is, in my opinion, the first time she's actually gotten her bubble burst. In the past, she could chalk it up to these HaTeR fOrUmZ, but I feel like whatever's video did make waves with people outside her echo chamber. It's really hard to refute evidence when you have the receipts right there. Plus that video did blow up more than expected. I don't think anybody actually thought that she'd get such an amount of exposure.
Plus, this is purely speculation, but from what I've seen, there also seems to be something going on with Jonny. I mean, she deleted his handle on ig and Twitter, even briefly, and there was some lovebombing going on. Plus her actually hanging out with Jennifer alone while he's away? Girl.
Not to mention that she's been losing several animals in a row, and one of them was her biggest cash cow and the reason she became popular.
Her YouTube career is crashing just as fast as when it took off, and she can't handle the pressure and the fact that this is not something she might be cut for after all.
No. 616948
>>616908This is kind of off-topic, but you can save one number in your contacts as another number, so even if it wasn’t Taylor sending the messages, you could save the name as her phone number so it appears like it is in the message thread.
This is pretty obviously Jayce because he’s starved for attention and would constantly shit up the pettuber threads, but just saying you can’t take any screenshot with her phone number as solid proof.
No. 616974
>>616973Does he know of any animals that are dead that we don’t publically know about?
What concerns about her care was he trying to help her with? Did she make the changes he suggested?
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Most of you already know this but for newcomers, please don’t cow tip (aka bring this to twitter or instagram and “expose” her). It’s not going to help whatever situation she’s in with Jonny if these DMs are brought to light. Just keep it in this forum :) Will keep posting screenshots as they come, as long as y’all still have questions or are still interested.
No. 617113
>>617093The drug use was the part I was most interested in. Why go into every detail about her life except this one, especially since this is the thing that could seriously harm her animals above all else?
Also, he still hasn't posted texts with her number included. We're not asking him to perform rocket science. It would take less than 5 minutes and would make him seem a lot more credible.
>>617108If you would stop prancing around what people are asking you to do, you would be more credible. This isn't helping your case.
No. 617114
>>617093The drug use was the part I was most interested in. Why go into every detail about her life except this one, especially since this is the thing that could seriously harm her animals above all else?
Also, he still hasn't posted texts with her number included. We're not asking him to perform rocket science. It would take less than 5 minutes and would make him seem a lot more credible.
>>617108If you would stop prancing around what people are asking you to do, you would be more credible. This isn't helping your case.
No. 617115
>>617093The drug use was the part I was most interested in. Why go into every detail about her life except this one, especially since this is the thing that could seriously harm her animals above all else?
Also, he still hasn't posted texts with her number included. We're not asking him to perform rocket science. It would take less than 5 minutes and would make him seem a lot more credible.
>>617108If you would stop prancing around what people are asking you to do, you would be more credible. This isn't helping your case.
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>>617113You've already seen the text, but there's the number ya cry baby.
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No. 617133
>>617122 Appreciate the screenshot with the number, thanks!! though really idk why people are doubting anything you're saying at this point lol, the instagram DMs kind of prove they're real.
Also thanks for sharing all this. I'm sorry you had to deal with Taylor being a shitty 'friend' when you were just trying to be nice. I wonder if she has any actual friends if this is how she acts with people she supposedly is reasonably close to.
No. 617136
>>617132No, they're not from me. As stated before, I've only been here three times.
First time when Taylor and I first became friends.
Second time when I confirmed we unfollowed each other and now.
I cannot confirm who posted anything here, as I don't know.
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No. 617144
>>617129Jayce, Bree, or anyone else who lurks here involved, please for the love of god (and with proof) spill the tea. The shit this girl gets away with, manipulates, and conceals, is absolutely unacceptable. Especially when it involves animals in her care. You're all just pawns to her and she manipulates and lies her way out of
everything and I'm getting so sick of it.
Also to be clear, I believe what Jayce is saying. It lines up with everything.
No. 617185
>>617144That's part of the issue. I can't PROVE anything really. Most of the information I have was from a three hour phone call I had with her several months ago.
How valid the info is to you guys is up to you.
I'd be open to doing a "collab" interview with someone if they wanted. Someone can pick my brain for however long they want or whatever and compile everything if they want. I'm much better at talking to people than I am with typing.
Door is open, ya'll know my instagram if you wanna reach out.
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No. 617193
>>617185I think that would be good, actually. If you can encourage Bree to speak out, too, or anyone else. I'm not sure why she would back down because of Taylor freaking out. I'm sure none of you have hopes of reconnecting with her and being friends again, so I don't think there is anything for you to lose (besides the backlash from her rabid fans, but I'm sure they will eventually forget, since they're all about 12)
She's dodged everything. Even the bearded dragon breeder incident.
Just a reminder that Jonny has allegedly threatened to flush her kitten. So the relationship with him alone and him living there is a threat to her animals. I think that is another reason why people are concerned about it. And obviously with the recent picture he lets the rats out next to their cats. God knows what else isn't posted if that is. But she obviously doesn't care that he is doing dangerous things like that with them.
No. 617194
>>617185I have a question–correct me if I'm wrong but you seem to think, from conversations with her, that her pet care is fine. Do you think otherwise now, taking how much she lies into consideration?
That's what most people dislike her for, so as someone who knows about reptiles, what do you honestly think about her care?
No. 617196
>>617185I have a question–correct me if I'm wrong but you seem to think, from conversations with her, that her pet care is fine. Do you think otherwise now, taking how much she lies into consideration?
That's what most people dislike her for, so as someone who knows about reptiles, what do you honestly think about her care?
No. 617197
>>617185I have a question–correct me if I'm wrong but you seem to think, from conversations with her, that her pet care is fine. Do you think otherwise now, taking how much she lies into consideration?
That's what most people dislike her for, so as someone who knows about reptiles, what do you honestly think about her care?
No. 617198
>>617185I have a question–correct me if I'm wrong but you seem to think, from conversations with her, that her pet care is fine. Do you think otherwise now, taking how much she lies into consideration?
That's what most people dislike her for, so as someone who knows about reptiles, what do you honestly think about her care?
No. 617199
>>617185I have a question–correct me if I'm wrong but you seem to think, from conversations with her, that her pet care is fine. Do you think otherwise now, taking how much she lies into consideration?
That's what most people dislike her for, so as someone who knows about reptiles, what do you honestly think about her care?
No. 617220
>>617193Bree doesn't really wish to speak out on anything yet but if that changes, you'll know.
>>617194I saw videos and such of her animals.
Set up wise, her enclosures weren't terrible overall and you guys tend to nitpick little things such as handling the GTP, which after a year can be handled. Any GTP breeder will tell you this. Even younger ones can be so long as the interaction isn't forceful.
None of her animals as far as I could tell in terms of reptiles were kept in conditions that were terrible for them.
What could be bad is her lack of upkeep. It's been pointed out that she can be lazy and such and she did mention to me that she has a petsitter as well that helps with the animals.
However one issue I can confirm is that her croc-skins died of dehydration due to a dry environment. This was leaked via her friend group and brought to my attention. So even though what I saw, set-up wise was fine.
her inconsistent ability to keep up with humidity levels or other things, very well could be an issue.
No. 617223
>>617220To add on to my comment, I saw videos and pictures of her setups in private DMs on my old twitter.
I deleted my old twitter awhile back due to people digging up issues I had on my account from when I was 16. (i'm now almost 24) and trying to use those issues against me now. So I started fresh and in the process lost all the info I had on Taylor between messages.
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No. 617245
>>617091Self-employed people in the U.S. pay estimated taxes quarterly and they not only pay income taxes but a self-employment tax if your business is not running at a net loss. The reason for paying quarterly is because you don't have an employer taking out Social Security and Medicare taxes from your paycheck. You can pay once a year like everyone else, but you pay a penalty if you do if you make over a certain amount. I don't remember what that amount is, but I'm pretty sure Taylor's over it.
It would be really easy to get into trouble if you don't file quarterly, don't do your yearly taxes either and are racking up penalties on top of all that.
No. 617254
>>617240Yes. That was what she planned. Its part of the reason I came back here, because stunts like that rub me the wrong way.
If she just didn't announce they died, fine.
If she was honest, fine.
but trying to cover it up and lie about it, is a big no in my book.
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No. 617255
>>617240Yes. That was what she planned. Its part of the reason I came back here, because stunts like that rub me the wrong way.
If she just didn't announce they died, fine.
If she was honest, fine.
but trying to cover it up and lie about it, is a big no in my book.
>>617241To be fair, I got addicted to drugs in my teens under nearly the same circumstances. It's not about how many friends you have, it's about the kind of friends you have. So it's entirely possible to form those addictions even under your parents roof and such. but thats my personal experience.
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No. 617277
>>617270Often the error resets the session ID so posts cannot be deleted.
>>617271
>mods will deleteAdmin hasn't even acknowledged the problem in three weeks, and mods haven't replied to multiple requests in Meta to delete duplicate posts.
No. 617279
>>617275Is it that weird though? Taylor might be reclusive and sheltered, but she does have poor impulse control and low self-esteem. It takes you one bad apple to get you into drugs.
I imagine that with Jennifer devoting all her time to Tanner, and Taylor's dad out working, it's pretty easy for Taylor to sneak out and get some drugs. She did snuck out in the middle of the night to meet Jonny at a hotel, so I'm inclined to think that it might not be that weird for her to have gotten into coke.
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it's blowing my mind that all these youtube tards don't know that you have to pay the US govt. income tax on the money you make. walking boxes of hair, totally oblivious and totally stupid.
rule of thumb to all freelancers (sexworkers, youtubers, copywriters, script analysts, etc.) out there: you don't get to keep it all. #1. get an accountant. #2. best way to do it is to file quarterly. the payouts you make are broken down into smaller, easier totals than if you pay twice or even once a year. people who pay twice or once a year are fucked because they already spent the money they needed in order to pay their damn taxes. #3. you can write some shit off but don't be an ingrate like onision. write offs must be business related, so save all your fucking receipts and write down exactly what you were doing/buying/whatevering and how it's relevant to your business. for example, you can have a home office, and you can write off a percentage of that, (like say if you've got a landline in there, you can write off a percentage of the the purchase price of the phone) but if you get audited, there better not be a guest bed in there, or you're getting busted. #4. expect to get audited. if you're terrified of fucking up, the less likely it is you'll fuck up. #5. ignorance of tax laws is not a good defense for not paying your taxes. #6. don't rely on turbo tax or quicken. look back to #1 and HIRE AN ACCOUNTANT.
taylor is a halfwit, as are most of these thots. if you make money, you owe the government a big fat chunk of it. if you don't pay it, they will come after you and they will fuck you repeatedly until you pay up.
i can totally see taylor being dumb enough to have already screwed herself on her taxes. absolutely. how the fuck do you have a job or get a paycheck and not know this? mindblowing.
No. 617321
>>617312Because 3 animals of different types dying of a illness she “did everything she could have” might have actually had her stans go ‘wait a fucking minute’
especially since they all seem to be her high humidity animals.
No. 617357
>>617354I was thinking the same thing, how does she not have enough for a downpayment on a house??? Especially with sponsored content.
I imagine, like many young people, she's not good with her money and doesn't save any of it.
No. 617360
>>617321Thing is, she could easily drag the time frame of the deaths out like she has done before and just shrug her shoulders when asked why they had died. Instead she chose this mess of a story which makes her look fucking terrible.
How does one even come up with such a wild story to begin with? It's beyond insane.
No. 617374
>>617360The story itself isn't that bad imo, Taylor just told it all wrong. She should've said something along the lines of "An unspecified electric malfunction happened and my skinks and frog got fried in the process. Grief-stricken and nauseated. Contacted an engineer who will ensure this doesn't happen ever again." Yeah, people would point out that she should've taken precautions weeks before, when the first malfuntion occured, but that would've been forgiven eventually. What will not be forgiven is that she did not check on her animals for
22 hours. It's simply unacceptable and absolutely appalling.
No. 617402
>>617374not trying to white knight at all, but she checked on her animals
once in 22 hours. Which is hardly any better than nonce. She slept for 12 hours, checked on them once, then not again for 10 hours. which I believe is honestly true, I think that that is how often she checks on her animals. Even if the rest of the story is false, I think it's realistic for her to only check on them once a day. That's why she felt okay adding that timeline to the story. What a dumbass
No. 617408
>>617357 You also have to take into account her expenses double because of Jonny. He’s always flexing designer clothes and stupid ass shit that’s clear he can’t afford on his own.
Plus I imagine a drug habit is expensive.
No. 617534
>>617492frogs like hers get parasites incredibly often and die from them, so that's a possibility also.
personally not buying her story about the muh eelectrocity
No. 617675
>>617644i wouldn’t give her the benefit of the doubt, anon. like
>>617674 said, feeding whole prey too often easily could’ve led to his unfortunate situation. we all know taylor has a knack for killing her animals by way of half baked decisions and negligence
No. 617702
>>617693>>617694Honestly I think it's a normal and smart response to all the 'hate' she's been getting.
Before, the 'hate' wasn't from her stans, but now that her YouTube videos are flooded and even her stans are struggling to defend her.
I have no doubt Jonny has something to do with it, but lets be realistic here without drawing to wildest speculations.
No. 617706
>>617702Doesn't help that some major info has been leaked from myself and Bree, making her look in worse.
I'm willing to bet she's been told about what's going on here and is prolonging her comeback since I gave you guys all this extra info.
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No. 617712
>>617402I don't wanna make this about myself but I wanna use myself as an example for why I don't see any excuse as reasonable for not checking on them for 22 hours.
I have 20+ snakes, 3 monitor lizards, 1 gecko, 2 dogs and 2 cats.
I ALWAYS check on all my snakes every morning and every night. Sometimes during the day as well. They're solitary animals so I try not to bother them too much, but they are checked on at MINIMUM twice a day.
My monitors are in my living room and my gecko is in my bedroom. So they're seen consistently every hour.
I see absolutely no excuse why you cannot check on your animals twice a day at minimum.
22 hours might as well be 24. Once a day is not enough to catch defecation, shedding issues, escapees, humidity or heat issues and so forth.
Taylor is home all day. She told me this herself that she spends most of her days at home.
When I spend all day at home, I'm in my reptile room 3-5 times a day checking on things.
Only time I only check twice a day is when I'm working all day. her job she does from home.
I just cannot find a reasonable excuse from my viewpoint, being as I have just as many animals as she does, to only check on them once in a 22 hour period, especially when she works from home.
Sorry for the ramble but that just grinds my gears.
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No. 617741
>>617706Have you posted anything about Taylor elsewhere? (Eg. Twitter, YouTube)
Most of her stans don’t even know about this site
No. 617767
>>617744I think by taking a break she thinks that her stans won't see the mess because people will give up, and she's not gonna make dumbass promises again.
It's literally the smartest move she's made her entire career because otherwise she'd be making herself look worse arguing with 'haters' and making promises she can't keep.
No. 617772
>>617688Deleting her Twitter? I'd say at the most 5 times. She's, however, very prone to delete tweets. Usually tweets that direct her stans to harass people (by playing victim or replying with some snarky comment to another person), or things that make her look bad. This is the first time she's gone silent for an extended period of time.
She's still very susceptible to disappear whenever she doesn't get her way and things get too difficult for her to handle, though.
No. 617798
>>617786Some of the info I mentioned in those screenshots, was from Bree in terms of Taylor’s character, also revolving around the Croc skink deaths, that wasn’t an electrical issue. Taylor literally didn’t keep the humidity up. That was confirmed from Bree as well. I thought I mentioned that. However I might have overlooked it.
This is why I’m open to having someone talk to me and record it/upload because I forget info when I’m on this website because I’m so back and forth on it. It’d be easier to just sit down and let someone pick my brain for awhile. Haha.
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No. 617824
>>617798>>617821dude write to the admin at lolcow.farm@gmail.com and get an official tripcode by proving who you are. stop using the signature because as you can see, it's open to fakery:
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No. 617825
>>617811she'd just say he went to his real owner, her friend.
now if Bindi died… maybe Mushu I dunno.
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No. 617840
>>617822>>617834>that wasn't obviouswhat
>>617824 said
No. 617868
>>617862People might be trying to make milk in hopes something happens, given how quiet she's been people are probs getting angsty.
OR, this is a huge conspiracy theory on my end so feel free to ignore, Taylor or those close to her are trying to de-rail hoping the fake milk make it into a video so they can call it out.
No. 617998
>>617997Disregard this I suck cocks
[spoiler] get a tripcode idiot
No. 618060
>>617869I’m now assuming that she went silent on social media so she has to take 0 criticism and she can sop up the lovebombing she’s getting at home from Jonny. Seriously ew, wtf is this cringy shit “Sexy Craig?” Honestly makes me want to throw up. Then she can come back with the “new year new me I’m so much better now guise!” when he goes on tour in January, because seriously if she stops making videos what the fuck would she really do all day without Jonny there? She does nothing all day as is with her inconsistent schedule.
Or I guess I’m also not considering that she may just have her “assistants” care for the animals for a month while she follows Jonny all over tour to make sure he doesn’t cheat on her.
No. 618906
>>618905This thread and two threads in /ot/ apparently suffered the same coding errors.
Please use
>>>/pt/618237 No. 671647
>>618060Their assistance is through either two people–
Tudy or Riley. Though Riley soon dipped out of the picture, I believe you'll actually see him in a video or two moving shit for them.
>>615440can confirm this behavior
I apologize if this is 'old milk', just came across the thread and have dealt with these people in cursory fashions.