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21 year old "family friendly pet mom" Youtuber, her 32 year old junkie boyfriend Jonny Craig, and her creepy controlling mother.
Previous thread: >>>/snow/614641
The basics:> Taylor is a notorious animal hoarder known for collecting 40+ rare and exotic pets and manhandling/mistreating them for the sake of her Youtube channel which has over 1 million subscribers. Several pets have died in her care, many more have fallen ill due to her neglect or disappeared after "rehoming" them. Fails to give proper enclosures for many of her pets, including overstuffing fish tanks, keeping her kittens locked in the bathroom, and her mouse and hedgehog in the closet.> Jonny Craig is the frontman of the band Slaves and is most well-known for being an outspoken abusive junkie. He has been in and out of rehab centers for a decade now and has been kicked out of multiple bands and off of tours for his behavior. He is usually homeless when he does not have a girlfriend to leech off of.> Several of Jonny's ex-girlfriends have come out with stories of Jonny's physical and sexual abuse, including rape at knife-point. His ex Chelsea confided this in Taylor when she and Jonny first started dating, in which Taylor's response was to laugh with Jonny and make a public spectacle of it.> Taylor loves to throw pity parties for herself and dodge around the real issues when faced with criticism about her husbandry, hoarding, and hypocrisy. She can never keep her stories straight and will tell outright lies only to contradict them hours later. Her fans are sycophants who only encourage her.
Facebook (private:) https://www.facebook.com/Taylor.Nicole.Dean
List of all Taylor's pets:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QNUksDcQk_cqLTkTFTiPjP2pCGBQgORyCesIIqvZ2Zs/edit?pli=1
>Jonny recently bought himself a milk snake and bought Taylor an orchid mantis
>Lies about age of deceased mantis
>Jokes about dead pets
>They both continue impulse buying animals despite owning over 30
>Proof (kind of) came out on Twitter that Taylor smokes heroin with Jonny
>Posts picture of abandoned service dog looking overweight and with an unhealthy coat
>Uses her plethora of illness to excuse not posting, yet she’s somehow able to care for 30+ animals everyday
>Suddenly starts ranting about being vegan and saving the planet despite not even being vegetarian herself
> Claims she is finally getting the cheese tattoo
> Posted photos clearly showing off a number of suspect bruises on her arm
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Thanks for making a new thread, anon.
She's back to playing the victim again. She doesn't want her fans thinking about her monitor enclosure lies so she makes it seem like she's being "shamed" for her illnesses.
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Also interesting that she got called out on the last thread for calling celiac an allergy instead of autoimmune and calling hEDS a "joint disorder" instead of a connective tissue disorder because she clearly knows nothing about the illnesses she claims to have, and then she tweets this a few hours later.
Hi Taylor, you're obviously lurking. You might want to google some more though because EDS type 3 doesn't even exist anymore.
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You've never tweeted the phrase "connective tissue" until you read it here.
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She let the "line god" talk her into a second tattoo. When will she learn?
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Also here’s Mama Dean whining again. Of course having to bring Tanner up so people feel sorry for her.
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Her hair has never looked more like straw, it’s actually disgusting.
Wow she managed to get an even uglier tattoo than I expected.
If she got a realistic looking cowfish then it wouldn't be terrible. But this cartoon piece of shit? Lmao
Why does her tattoo look like it got punched in the face. Lmao
Wonder what horrible tattoo she got after that thing
God, it's hideous. Why is it so lumpy and awful? It looks like someone beat the shit out of a fish with a coat hanger.
& its mouth lmfao.
Why didn't she pay for it?
And a joke tattoo is not going to be something she'll love forever I'd assume. I could understand getting a well done, super cute tattoo of a pet she loves but unfortunately cow fish jsut look dumb as a tattoo and this tattoo just looks extra dumb. It actually looks like a temporary tattoo, that's how bad it is.
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So is she claiming she drew the ugly cheese reference picture?? I have a hard time believing that.
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Not only is not a good concept it’s just not a good tattoo. Yikes.
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Oh it is so ironic that he posts this when Taylor is getting like her horridly ugly cheese tattoo. Lmao
Yeah, the yellow's not saturated at all. There seems to be patches of skin without yellow on at all in the body of the fish.
Why isn't it red also? I thought with her super fragile skin issues we'd see some kind of sign she'd been tattooed…
Is it me or does it look more like one of those temporary tattoos lol
You're right, it does have that scrunched-up temp tattoo look on the right fin.
One can only pray it's a joke and she doesn't have that inkvomit on her actual skin permanently, lmao. But maybe that's just wishful thinking.
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Yikes! That thing has multiple blow outs, none of the circles are actually round, the yellow doesn't even come close to touching the lines, the red circles on the staff don't line up at all, those lines on the rod of the staff are wonky af, the color is so scratchy…. this is one busted tattoo. Even if the design was phenomenal (which it's not) the actual tattoo work is horrid.
The thing that bothers me the most is the mouth. It would've taken about 2 seconds of tweaking for it to look at least 10% better.
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Also looks way better once you remove that weird line on the cheek.
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Definitely better! So 10 seconds of fixing the mouth and taking away most of the line, it's already way less ugly. A good tattoo artist would've tweaked this thing to at least make it look halfway decent.
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Yeah, I completely agree. But in my defense, I never said I "fixed" it. I just said it was 10% better. LOL Just pointing out there were very simple ways of improving this thing from being extremely busted to almost passable. It never would've been fantastic no matter what was done to it unless a very talented artist took the concept and redrew it. This is the best I could do in 3 minutes. Still way better, in my opinion. So many errors that could've been easily corrected in such a short amount of time.
It looks like one of those temporary tattoos that has started to rub off.
I don't understand why she doesn't find/use the same artist every time. She has the money.
This smells like clickbait tbh. I also think it's one of those custom temporary tattoos.
There's no indication/irritation whatsoever from having a real tattoo like her others.
If you look closely you can see the incompletion of the lines/details which are common from peeling off a temporary.
FAKE NEWS TAYLOR!
I know Taylor’s scummy but I feel that I also have to disagree with the idea its fake… her stans would feel oh so betrayed if she did that. Cheese is their almighty god, she wants to make them worship her by getting this tattoo (which is admittedly worse than I even imaged it would turn out to be.)>>639347
Jonny has a past of shaming his exes for their tattoos too. I’d imagine Jonny is furious that she got another tattoo, much less such an ugly looking one. He is making subtle but obvious shame at her for getting it. Image how much of this he does without us seeing it on social media. “You’d look better if you did this/wore that/didn’t do that…” etc. no wonder the insta-thot-baddie lips came and next will probably be a boob job to please him.
He's just a shitty tattoo artist who paints himself as a God. Most actual artists don't like him and his shop minimum is $300 when for most artists it's around $100 if you're good and only that high ($300+) if you're AMAZING and have a unique style and years and years of experience. He also name-drops all the celebrities he's tattood on a dickride to fame.
The other thing is once someone asked in his comments why he never tattoos black people and he responded to that person commenting their dumb and that he has but because of the way he edits photos (black and white) it looks like everyone's white….which made no sense.
He’s a mediocre artist who “specializes” in single needle tattoos. Single needle tattoos are well known to fade very fast, blow out, blur etc, but he makes grand claims about his tattoos healing perfect and never fading, yet he has only been tattooing at all for a few years, doing the single needle stuff for like have of that, his tattoos haven’t stood any test of time because a couple of years isn’t enough to have a wide enough client base with tattoos showing how they age to tell how long they actually last.
Single needle stuff is usually done in detail work where the intention is to allow it to blur to either improve or at least not damage the design.
In addition to his work quality and longevity being questionable, he basically behaves exactly like Jonny toward criticism, ie, wildly immature.
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Looks like he doesn't want to take any responsibility for this train wreck.
Maybe they're talking about that "secret" other tattoo for his channel.
Has Taylor ever indicated that she can draw at all? I guess it can't be much worse than the cheese abomination
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Look what I found
Ever work at an abuse shelter? This is what every battered woman says. It's unhealthy and abnormal and pretty much confirms victim status
Unless they have broken out of the abuser grooming, then they want to murder their abuser and give no fucks about fighting back
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I’m guessing the “mad art skills” is a sarcastic comment about the shitty animals drawn on the tattoo roulette wheel. I’m assuming Taylor drew them to decide what the second surprise tattoo would be and then Romeo actually drew the tattoo.
The OP has been the same for the past six months and 12 threads when I first wrote it. You’re late.
I’m sorry, are you trying to justify that hoarding disorder (which she doesn’t have) gives her a free pass to mistreat, abuse, and even kill animals?
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Yeah monetize on your disabled son saying things he doesn’t understand fully. Careful Mama Dean, you’re showing how desperate and insane you are
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Can you imagine having a whole leg of Romeo's trash tattoos?
Nah, stilll ugly.
Not that I think the fan is bad artist, it's just a terrible tattoo idea either way.
I doubt her channel is monetised, it's far too small. Also given how intelligent this woman clearly is, I doubt she has any idea how YouTube actually makes money in the first place.
Most mothers, deserved or not, are always proud of their child. She's definitely not out to make money, she just wants to share her thrilling
life on YouTube and possibly win back Taylor's love.
why the fuck would this person want to listen to somebody ELSE'S mother nag at them? fuck off Jennifer.>>639677>hope i don't offend any hoes
…while i exploit my disabled, minor child (and bitch endlessly to complete strangers on a huge public platform about how much he RUINED my LIFE)
Utter trailer trash
You also don’t just do one style on just one appendage being heavily tattooed is a whole body plan.
But no the cheese tattoo is not traditional in the slightest. Traditional tattoos have a thick even outline throughout the entire tattoo while hers looks more sketch style.
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She just told someone this empty ass tank was good for a beta.
ahhhh fish anon here
A 5g is fine for a betta, that's what it looks like to me. BUT WHAT IS HER OTHER ADVICE. For one that betta needs hides/places to sleep.
Cycling takes 4-6 WEEKS if you don't use bottled bacteria or seed from an established filter.
Ghost feeding on day 3-4 would do nothing? What? That means you provide an ammonia source (fish food) for the beneficial bacteria (what the point of cycling is, cultivating bb). So for 1-3 days, you do nothing, so there's no food source for these bb. Then day 3-4 you feed them? So then they have a population boom, then all starve to death in the following days because you're not regularly providing an ammonia source, THEN you add your betta to a basically uncycled tank?! An uncycled tank = ammonia poisoning, even if your fish survives the cycle at this point, there are long-term negative effects from this. What she said makes no sense.
As an added bonus, NO ONE should trust their pet store's free water tests. They use strips, which are inaccurate. And if you recently set up your tank and bring a water sample in, you'll get a reading of 0/0/0, which can appear cycled to someone how doesn't ask how long the tank's been set up. Splurge on the $20 and get a liquid test kit.
At least this seems like proof she used to work at a chain pet store lol, completely uneducated on the most basic part of fishkeeping, cycling, but believes she should be giving out advice anyway.
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This just reminded me that her first tattoo was only a year ago. Tattoo fever is a thing and I am grateful every day that I didn't have the money for all of the dumb tattoo ideas I had when I was younger.
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I wonder if she has her ankle out of the bath water?? I honestly doubt it. She's gonna fuck up her tattoo even more than it already is
+ Along with a bunch of the other non-saged posts I keep seeing…
Anons, please learn to sage! Type “sage” in the email field if you’re posting no new information.
Anyways, this is old milk I know was mentioned in the last thread right before the reply limit was cut off, but did anyone call out Taylor on her lie about drinking alcohol? She had a shot of whiskey on her 8AM flight, then told concerned people it was “her first drink in a month” and that she and Jonny were taking the sober thing sooo serious. But she just drank at her friends party a week or 2 ago.
Honestly she’s probably becoming an alcoholic like Jonny, idk if she’s just so bad at keeping her lies straight or she literally doesn’t remember that she drank a week ago and not a month ago.
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Is it just me or do his hands just look huge? Jesus they look swollen as hell.
I think her meltdowns always start at the bathtub kek
Before her twitter rant she made a story with her cats in the bathtub with some cringey sad comment
Be ready for the milk
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What a hypocrite.
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Wonder what her idea of “early” is.
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She deleted this tweet, so probably no upload today. Typical.
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She also deleted this. No idea why the makeup tutorial file is called "satanic leaf gecko." The footage is probably not even new.
Hasn’t she done this multiple times? Why is it always the same name? That just doesn’t seem right. I can totally see her using a random screenshot from an old film just to make it seem like she’s being “productive”. Wonder what her excuse will be? Isn’t it 9pm in Texas? “Early” lol>>640476
So accurate, her meltdowns seem to always start in the bathtub lmao. She’s probably freaking out and crying knowing Jonny must be with another girl by now
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Apparently it’s uploading.
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That was so embarrassing to watch. It's obvious she wants people to fawn over her and give her compliments.
Because she is so pro-animals rights and shit maybe?
If she wasnt has hyprocrite then it would be fine but she has this holier than thou attitude.
Is she using a beauty blender dry??
Also I could not stop looking at her lips. It looks like it hurts to move them
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So her monitors tank is 6.8x2.4x3.8 feet, not 7x4x4 or whatever she was saying. It's also clear that this isn't the inside space, considering she would barely be able to lie down in it unless she's now over 6ft tall. That tank is only 2.4 feet in depth (inside space very likely smaller than that), she said her monitor is about two feet now. I honestly don't know how she thinks she's taking good care of this poor creature when she's still denying it climbing space.
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She liked this tweet back in September, so she knows about parent companies.
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Brazil must be so glad he’s there.
IT'S NOT A PURSE IT'S A SATCHEL
Wonder what's in that can hmmm
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Yep Popular beer in Brazil lol
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gotta fill up those empty enclosures!
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I used to like Jen but ever since she started seeking attention from taylor/the internet she's become so annoying
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This is an absolutely horrible way to hold a snake. No support on its body, just letting it dangle there…snakes skills can be detached from their spine, and their spines are injurable. She needs to stop treating them like toys
Ugh. It makes me sick thinking of this attention whore buying this snake to pander for instagram likes and view money at the expense of its health.
I hope literally anyone buys it before she can get her hands on it and toss it into the filth den with the rest of her animals. Like maybe spend that money on a fucking maid instead. Or anything at all that actually benefits your current animals, instead of keeping them in the bare minimum while you fling cash at your next living, breathing
>>641186>need to save money
Does she mean she has to save money to buy this snake? Because that’s what i’m getting at. No wonder she’s uploading videos after videos.. she’s getting broke from providing everything for her manbaby.
Facepalm for someone that can get so much from youtube, yet not think about saving their money until they want something expensive
“Jonny and I are taking sobriety very seriously!”
lol sure sis, can’t keep your manlet on a leash without you there. Not like you fully support the sobriety anyways. They’re both alcoholics I’m sure. Nobody just goes from not drinking to having a shot of whiskey at 8AM. And Jonny sure as hell doesn’t know what “moderation” is with drinking.
Someone should call her out on this shit. Her lies are endless
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Imagine not buying fucking expensive animals, regardless of at a discount or not, and actually RESCUING animals/reptiles in need of homes.
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Lmfao. It’s still an impulsive buy. You literally just found the snake today. But you just can’t stand to have empty enclosures even though you don’t adequately care for the snakes you already have. This bitch is going to be broke in a few years time and her animals will be the ones to suffer (more than they already are)
Because here >>641186
she claimed she just told Jonny they need to start saving money so she doesn’t want to spend $7000 on a snake. Most likely she’s pretending the person is letting her buy it at a lower price, even though I’m sure she’s buying at full price and just doesn’t want Jonny to know.
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So she’s really trying to claim she got the snake free and only paid shipping?
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Oh look someone gave taylor a 7.5k snake for free because she's an animal expert and everyone wants taylor to have their snakes!
Maybe. It's a paradox snake, aka a genetic chimera. They look cool but the chimera trait cannot be passed down. The snake itself isn't worth $7500, it's just being sold for that.
But with that being said it's likely a VPI axanthic, and those do go for about $800.
but you kind of are supposed to wait, if you're actually trying to save money though? lmao. only taylor.
what rational adult human being says "oh, 7500 bucks, and it's perfect, but i'm also trying to save money and buy a house. better buy the snake!"
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What kind of moron thinks 40 gallons is too big for a ball python? Look up termite mounds, they're enormous. But promote more shit care for your snakes to all your minions who don't know better.
According to the breeder's FB the chimera is a proven breeder so that may be why it costs more?
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She’s not even going to say that the statement isn’t even true? She definitely didn’t build that cage, and it’s not 7’.
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So here she says she’s buying it. >>641483
But here she’s claiming she only had to pay for shipping.
Which is it, Taylor?
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There’s no way in hell did they actually watch her videos and “decide to give her a free snake.” The description alone is proof they know how rare it is to get a snake that’s coloration is split down the middle of the face. Plus no one with experience in reptiles would watch Taylor and think her care was worth 7500. I mean especially with how often she leaves them behind, how her snakes usually look dehydrated with the possibility of being infested with mites. Besides for that she hasn’t said what company she’s getting it from, so it’s not like the company offered a publicity trade. It’s bad business. If every person who had phenomenal care got free snakes then there would be no money in breeding. I’m calling bullshit.
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She's lying. This is the seller.
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I asked if the snake was still available and….
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He is not happy feel free to share on twitter as he want's the information rectifying.
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Her stans are as delusional as she is.
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But it's okay when you do it, Taylor?
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Why is everyone missing the point it's not about the price, it's about the lie??
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She's got her lying and playing victim down to a pathological science. And her subscribers are eating it up in her replies. How can so many people be so fucking blinded by her transparent lying?
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Starting to sound a bit like Jonny. Why wouldn't he want money for it? That's what a price tag is for?
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Taylor, he said to call in the morning for further details. Nothing was ever agreed on.
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She’s definitely pretty worried that she’s been caught in an obvious lie if this is the reason she finally blocked this person. She did this when people were asking about Sabor too, and last time she broke up with Jonny.
It's kind of funny how she never seems to love not designed animals >>641637
I got Onion flashbacks with that tweet kek
Her stans are so retarded they can't tell she always use the excuse of "miscommunication" when she fucked up or is catched in a lie?
Also in which world a promotion is worth 7500? (specially hers when she half ass promoted a brand while being high/wasted or with a lazy tone)
I cant see that guy selling his snakes to retarded preteens who can't research for their own without his Godness help.
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Now that's going to be a long response….(Don't go out of your way to message people and post it here)
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Mention her Shrimp mantis being on the same tank with other fishes because she didn't order a special tank for him before his arriving and still hasn't get one.
What bitch? This isn't new
People all talked with the girl who sold you one of the snakes on Craiglist, also the backyard breeder of ghost, the store where you bought the monitor and the satanic leaf geckos
(And with all of them the stories didn't line up with yours)
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What is there to be confused about? How do you mix up $7,500 with $50 or $0? How does "call me in the morning" sound like "take my 1 of a kind snake for free!"
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Kek is Edwin amongst the anons in this thread?? I know he’s posted in the Dasha thread in the past. Nice that someone with at least some sort of following is commenting on her bullshit.
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Taylor you literally snap every day for something stupid you did or say.
Nope, language indicates she means that snake in particular. "The split face ball python was one that I've obsessed over for nearly a year now and never thought i could own myself. I shouldn't have shared info about him
was in my
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Sorry pic was showing
dont forget the potential
mites that have been on tate and violet (?) that have been pointed out and she claimed it was eco earth (which is still shit, reptile anons please correct me)
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i don’t think edwin has been on this thread. i decided to shoot him a dm about taylor and he seemed pretty surprised to hear that there’s drama surrounding her. he told me to send him some info and that he may make a video but he’s backed up on content right now. gonna make a list of all her bullshit and send it to him and hey, maybe we’ll finally get someone to call her out on it since it looks like petty paige is never gonna come through(See rule 5c)
There was no miscommunication, she’s a lying bitch. She wanted to shut down the criticism for going from “yikes this snake is 7 grand we don’t need to spend more money” to “YAY IM GETTING THE SNAKE!”
Honestly how much heroin is she smoking… she is delusional for thinking she wasn’t going to get criticism. She tries to deflect real criticism with anger and she doesn’t even answer people’s questions. She is pathetic.
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Sage for speculation, but isn't salt not good for insects and should be avoided? Her mantis is on a Himalayan salt candle holder.
Why did she think nobody would contact the seller after she said it was for free? Not even just because its her, but because someone is supposedly getting a $7.5k rare, beautiful snake for free and would probably ask why and if they could have it instead and offer more money? She didn't think this lie out at all. >>641194
Also, how would she know someone reverse image searched to find it? Morph Market is the most popular website for buying. It'd be easy to look there first and find it.
She is just spoiled and once she realized she might not be getting what she wants she started sperging out like the brat that she is.
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After she spent the day lying about the seller giving her the snake for free and shifting the blame to him. Yeah people wanted him to know his precious one of a kind snake is going to a trash heap to live with a dumpster fire liar.
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How long has it been, Taylor? 3 days? A month? Same difference.
She really can’t handle being without him. She needs him to be there to make excuses for her and act like he loves her and everyone is just being mean. Jonny probably loves it because it continues the cycle of abuse and make her feel like she “needs” him, so she won’t leave.
Nice “by myself” tattoo Taylor. You can’t handle a day alone. You’re a hypocrite about everything.
This whole ordeal will be used as the excuse of why she didn’t put out a video. Prepare for “This event really put me in a bad place mentally, I’m so sorry people are mean and ruin everything guys :(“. In reality of course she never had a video ready to put up, but you know, excuses. She would have used a different one if this didn’t happen.
She can never stick to her word. That’s part of what makes her such a shitty YTer. She has 0 work ethic. Or morals, since she continues to lie and slander everyone about everything.
>>641641>I will handle this buy paying double for the sponsored snake
I wonder if her initial posting about the price was to get Johnny to call her? Seeing as his tours always precipitate crises.
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This kind of thinking is like when Taylor got her first snake, and said "I've had a snake for about a month now, and I think I've pretty much got the hang of it,". She then proceeded to hoard a shit ton of snakes, as if one month would be any indication of her piss poor care levels (not to mention spew out informational videos on snake care that she had virtually no credentials on whatsoever) because she has a massive ego.
Don't be as dense as Taylor – ball pythons can live up to 30 years if properly cared for, and are fine going months without food. Her BPs are going to be lucky to make it to 10 years old if they're already dehydrated af and generally neglected. Keeping a beginner reptile alive for one year out of its decades long lifespan doesn't prove anything; they're still fucking suffering. Betsy is the one taking care of her pets half the time anyway.
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Meanwhile in Brazil, here’s Jonny holding a coke and a bottle of Jack
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He really likes getting touchy with his female fans
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Probably. Especially since in the original of this>>642327
One of the girl on the left you can see her pupils compared to the size of his and…yeah. His eyes are pinned even though it seems to be fairly dark where all these photos were taken.
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I went to check because sometimes people here exaggerate these things but wow, this difference.
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In this one he's literally just holding a bottle of JD with the cap off lmao. So sober.
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I wonder what her idea of "in depth" is.
It's hilarious to me that all these trashy pics of Jonny are being posted and she's on twitter acting like she's not having a meltdown about it or didn't spend all day yesterday making up outrageous lies.
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"I used to be addicted to cocaine"???
Hi, who are u anon?
She still has the chance to get out. Even if he reveals she's addicted to drugs, takes shitty care of her animals, lies about fucking everything she can just be like oops I was a drug addict but I will go to rehab and her stans will forgive her in like 10 seconds.
If he's physically abusive it might be more difficult, but her family did care and want to get her out. I think they would help in any way possible.
I just think she doesn't want to tarnish her image by having to admit anything and apologize. So basically she's staying with him and hoping he dies so she can keep her money. That's it. They're both trash IMO
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This is High jonny
looking like a real rockstar for sure jonny boy.
he looks like hobo trash, dude.
1) what would I get out of my story and humility being blasted online?
2) my own mother still loves him because he brainwashed her so goddamn well. They are all brainwashed. He’s a MASTER manipulator. I cannot stress that enough.
And dear Taylor,
When you do finally read this, because I know you’re still laying in bed at 3:40 pm, I hope you know what pain you have caused me. I will never stop until he is finally off this earth. You know exactly what you are doing and when I told you I was there for you, I meant it. I hope you’re miserable because that’s just an ounce of what I feel daily. I have to live with things I will never be able to drown out with drugs and therapy. You are the definition of an enabler and I hope you see what you have done. You think you know but you have NO idea the what I went through in those 4 years. I know I’ll never get an apology but honestly, I never want one from you. When he dies, don’t you dare come to me crying.
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She sure makes jokes about coke/drugs an awful lot for someone who claims they don't do any.
Sage because tweets aren't new.
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Do you think it’s possible Taylor said some of this stuff to you to get your sympathy and support? It seems like she really did convince herself she loves him. I don’t mean making stuff up, but just highlighting the bad so she could get your sympathy in the moment.
Also, what is she saying we all don’t know about his exes that they’ve done to her? Did she just make that up out of nowhere?
I think she honestly wanted help out. She didn’t know how to escape.
And she definitely made that up. LITERALLY the only thing I have ever “done” to that girl was okay those screenshots and defend myself. She’s a fucking victim crybaby. We all know that.
I’m very happy you found us here, and I just want to say I have mad respect for you standing your ground through all of this BS this last year. I’m so sorry you have gone through so much horrible shit nobody should, and I’m especially sorry for Taylor turning her back on you calling you a liar (even when you’ve posted a VIDEO of scrolling through her texts). You don’t deserve that.
She hasn’t always been the best person but when Jonny came into the picture she has really flown off the handles and become just as disgusting as he is. In a way I say fine, they’re perfect for each other, but another part of me always says if she just got him out of her life, there is still hope she can turn herself and her life around. She’s so damn young, with so much potential and opportunity in front of her she’s just throwing away. It’s disappointing to see, and I’m sure it’s worse for you, as you’ve consoled her and tried to be there for her and she turned her back on you.
Sorry for being extremely ranty but please know there are many of us who have your back and respect you for being so brave. Please never give up. You seem like you have such a good heart, and you deserve better in your life.
Both Jonny and Taylor are scum, karma gets around to everyone eventually.
After she slandered him on social media and said he “misinformed” her? God I fucking hope not. I will not have respect for the seller if he does. He claimed he was doing his research, so let’s hope he’s smart and makes the right move to just stay the hell away from her. She’s caused enough trouble for him over selling a snake.
She did tweet that she might be getting another snake next week though. Idk if she found another similar one or what, but she’s probably doing it to put the attention back on her animals again instead of her lies.
She promised there’d be a video yesterday. She’s acting like everything is normal again after deleting all her tweets, you’d think she’d release the video now so she can get praised for her minimal effort work by her stans. kek she is a fail of a YTer
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he overdosed on nurofen (I think that’s how it’s spelled). Basically he went to Australia and came back with boxes of these pills that are Tylenol with codeine. He had two sold out shows in Brooklyn, I flew in the day before I believe and we got dinner, said he was jetlagged and wanted to sleep so me and Ian walked him back to the hotel and I went to Times Square with Ian, when I came back hours later, jonny was nonstop puking, then all through the night and the next morning he made me walk to the corner store to get him food, I came back and he was purple and crying about how much pain he was in, I called an ambulance still not knowing what was wrong. He refused to tell me he did anything, when the ambulance came he was completely delirious, had no idea who I was or even where he was at. Finally hours after being in the ER the doctor came back and told me he overdosed on the pills and they would have to hold him there for the next week. I walked out told him to basically die and I wanted nothing to do with him. He eventually came home and we had an “intervention” with the band and my mom. We took his phone away and he was to do the album release tour without it. Once he left we never saw each other again.
No one's getting banned or yelled at; we don't like chasing the milk away.
Chelsea, please read this: https://lolcow.farm/info
and you'll be good to go.
Speaking of Ian, it makes me sick that he’s taken jonny’s side and didn’t stand by you. He knows exactly what JC is.
What do you think of Taylor saying they do urine tests together to make sure he’s sober?
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She posted this after people were getting after her for feeding too small prey items. This is weirdly too big of a prey item? A full grown female ball python will never need anything larger than a medium rat. This is a juvenile male. I'm not sure why she's saying she feeds him medium rats, and if she does she is officially overfeeding him rather than underfeeding him
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Keeps things clean? Your fake assistant sucks at her job.
I can’t see anything on my phone or when I zoom in so sorry whatever device you are using is better than mine haha.
No more screenshots guys. Sorry I’m trying to give y’all “milk” and still somehow fucking up.
Taylor one day: “I don’t even see myself as famous or important”
Taylor, literally the next day: “I have an assistant who cleans my house and brings me teas and wipes my ass”
It's okay, you didn't do it intentionally. You can always do what >>642875
said. That way, you'll know that the number is blocked out. I didn't mean to scare you away from the boards. I hope you enjoy your Friday night too and feel free to come back when you feel comfortable with posting again.
It's been a while since I've seen the Nemo's vet bill, so I have to read through the older threads. Sorry. I just didn't want Taylor or Jonny to have an excuse to play victim or shrug off any criticisms because a bunch of weens called her number.>>642879
I'll drop the phone number thing after this post, but yeah, black shows up a lot lighter on my monitor so it was very easy for me to see. Thank you for sharing your messages though.
All she has to do is break up with him while he is on tour but she won't. She's had more than enough of a warning so this is all her problem now. She should not get any sympathy but I know she will.
I just don't get why she wouldn't just break up with him if he were so horrible to her even in the beginning.
Because she's probably still thinking she's not like the other girls who dated him and is also toxic as fuck.
What makes me lose sympathy for her was that she had the resources to get out, and she's the one with the financial means to get out, but won't because she thinks she knows better.
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The face of sobriety
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i'm so embarrassed that people keep supporting him…like why would you stan some scamming rapist who peaked in the mid-late 2000s for his mediocre emo vocals after he's already been exposed as a pathetic junkie? not trying to shift the blame away from the abuser, just can't imagine letting those stubby, misogynistic fingers near me. it's also why people supporting Taylor is so problematic
, they're condoning her enabling and dismissive behavior.
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I have a feeling this is about Chelsea posting here. Even when he’s on tour he can’t help but obsessively stalk this thread.
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For the love of god just ask her about Chelsea's texts. It's the most important thing and the only excuse she has is that they are fake even though its her actual phone number and there is no way Chelsea would have that. I don't have a twitter so I can't tweet this but I hope Paige sees this or someone tells her. She literally admits to doing drugs. Paige should get in contact with Chelsea instead. Paige plz>>643423
I always wonder what happens when he sees them being posted, does Taylor get in trouble or something? If Taylor is telling the truth in the texts I don't know how he would react to seeing that
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god fucking damnit
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I wish someone at Petfest would call her out.
Really seems like she bribed him with more money and saying that she will make videos about it and post photos of it. She won't. She'll post one or two then be done with it.
Why spend 7.5k on a snake when that money could go to animal shelters that are in desperate need of things?
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People get into breeding because they love it, most of them care a huge amount about their animals, and I'm sure this guy does too. Unfortunately, Taytay's care just from scanning her content seems fine- it's only when you go into it that you see how bad it is. Odds are, this guy doesn't have time for that.
To him, snake gets a good home, free advertising for him, if she paid extra that's a bonus.
A breeder can't keep every animal they produce. As a breeder, I love all of my breeding animals and of course I love the babies, but if I kept every baby first of all I'd have a stupid amount of baby lizards and second of all, I wouldn't make any sort of profit. Of course, I do go above and beyond to ensure the babies end up in the hands of good people, not people like Taylor. Unfortunately this guy probably just watched some videos and looked at some of her animals and didn't see anything wrong because from the outside her care looks almost
Because Taylor has been accusing of being a liar and manipulative.
Also it was clear that Chelsea doesn't give a shit if Taylor gets exposed anymore, for all the bullshit she threw her way. The sympathy train departed a long time ago.
Agreed. Don't let these delusional people lie to you (and themselves) that breeders care. Too many unwanted animals are put in shelters, euthanized, or in the case of many reptiles- likely let loose to fend for themselves. We need to stop contributing to the fucking problem and say it's okay because ~the breeders luv them!~
Taylor should be using her platform to set a good example and only get rescues… but of course they aren't pretty or unique enough to keep her youtube bux flowing in, so she won't
sage for stepping on my soap box. Just being real with y'all.
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It has porn vibes and
makes the enclosure look super small.
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This is one hell of a cage for an arboreal animal.
Don't tar all breeders with the same brush, we have turned countless people away who wanted to buy our puppies and we keep in touch with every single one through out it's life.
The breeder I bought my geckos from is the exact same and appreciates updates and photos.
You can support rescues AND responsible breeding.(blogposting)
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Did anyone talked about it ?
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Hi mama dean
I agree. Instead of upgrading an animal she already has, she'll buy a new one.
Also, when people spend like $1000 on an enclosure it's usually because they want to do something interesting like a naturalistic bioactive setup. But she chooses a cage that will only accommodate an inch of substrate. A total waste of money.
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Switched her ball pythons to aspen as if they weren’t already dehydrated enough. Plus you can see she didn’t even bother to wash the hide from when she still was using eco earth.
How did she manage to make her new snake enclosures worse
than the old ones? Now they have no height to even attempt periscoping. They have no lights, let alone full spectrum uv. I doubt she's tracking temps or humidity. The husbandry she's representing to her young fans is from the 80's/90's. Ball python keepers are moving on from this garbage.
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Now she has her followers believing this is proper care for their own pets.
Exactly. Not to mention the site lists them as breeding racks. The whole justification for such abysmal sizing is that they're temporary homes and once the snake is bought the owner will give it a great enclosure. She takes mediocre to a new level.>>640933
I know she wants us to believe this is the monitor cage but after seeing her move around inside of it I can't see how that's possible.
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The comment is gross but you're dating a literal rapist who calls women bitches and cunts.
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Comment on Taylor's Instagram on the new monitor enclosure.
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Maybe it's just me but her Moon Crab doesnt look has full and rounded like before or maybe it's just the angles of the photos.
This photo is from her IG story
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Taylor has zero respect for money.. She seems to view it as a cute quirk. I mean it makes sense, because most of us don't learn how to manage money until we move out of our parents.. And her mother fails at parenting she didn't set Taylor up for any life other than being an entitled brat. When money is disposable to you, having to constantly replace expensive electronics is no big deal.
I know they like to think of us all as jealous and whatnot.. But I'd way rather be broke and a good person than to speak and brag about money the way Taylor does. She tells herself she's a good person and I'm sure hears it from her fans. But deep, deep down she has to know how ugly she is inside. That's why she tries so damn hard to convince people otherwise.
(Hopefully I’m responding to the photo of the enclosure)
So does anyone thing she’s gonna deep clean it at all? Remove all the substrate, wipe it down, etc.?
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“I don’t like talking about money”
Proceeds to once again shove in everyone’s faces how much money she spends
This is really sad. It looks like that person really knows what they are talking about, not some random "hater". Remember when the pet tubers claimed they actually take into consideration what they are doing wrong? They don't and they don't care. This is her first
monitor. She can't possibly get everything perfectly, 100% correct. She should have asked first about advice but no, she has to act like she already knows everything when she didn't even know the correct species in the beginning. She obviously did not look up or research this animal at any point in time. I bet she does not even know where this animal originates from (which is so important when you're trying to keep something away from its home).
Now I'm going to be super sad whenever I see this monitor just doing its thing being super sluggish because now I know it's because of how she is keeping it.
Yeah I don't know why people posting here were excited for a video by her. She seems like an idiot. She obviously hasn't done very much research (if at all) and then messages Taylor to get her information.
Plus why focus on animal care if you know nothing about it?
So she's getting fluorescent full spectrum lighting fixtures. Yet I doubt she has a uv meter to measure how much uv Kronos is subjected to in the cage (it will change based on how close or far away from the light he is). Every animal has a particular uv index they thrive in and getting more or less than that causes health problems. Also these light fixtures will put off very little heat, which leaves the two angled bulbs she already has. Besides the fact that reptile lighting should come straight down not angle into the animal's eyes, they can't be putting off enough heat for either ambient temperatures or
a proper basking spot. With reptiles that bask you need light and heat across the entire cage (albeit one side cooler than another) but you also need a dedicated basking spot with a light that is diffuse (spreads out) because if it is too focused it will cause burns. She's not creating a basking spot like that. In addition I don't see a heat source that doesn't emit light (like a ceramic heat emitter or radiant heat panel). Which means those heat lights are either on 24/7–meaning Kronos gets mediocre heat all the time but no night cycle. Or they get turned off at night but then he's even colder than he already is. Either way none of his needs for climbing, basking, hiding, uv, burrowing, exploring, etc are being met.
I'm also willing to bet she doesn't understand how providing full spectrum light can change his supplementation requirements.https://poikilomatters.tumblr.com/tagged/lightinghttp://www.uvguide.co.uk/intro.htmhttp://www.reptilesmagazine.com/Reptile-Health/Habitats-Care/Reptile-Lighting-Information/
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This one guy had legitimately good advice, and makes a good point about how keeping a monitor cool can make lethargy look like docility. Taytay starts lying again, saying she took him to the vet and got him fecal tested, and how the pet store “begged” her not to send him to a rescue because “all he’s known is people.” And some 13 y.o. defending her shit husbandry with a lethargic monitor as “he’s just a cool monitor and Taylor has cool animals and you guys are just mad”
Tried to make it legible as one post to not spam the thread. Will see if it worked.
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The guy crossed out in orange is the same guy from earlier whose comment she deleted (along with the photo). I know his name has already been posted but I blanked them all out anyway.
If you've ever been a part of any reptile or pet group, these (kind) comments read just like in those groups. People that know what they're talking about and are trying to help politely. Her fans for some reason think this is an "attack" on her? Even though everyone knows she has never had a monitor before? Her fans are such idiots. I really hope she fixes everything. It's not hard and everyone is helping her out so much with solutions. Nobody is really saying anything about the size of the enclosure. If she upgrades when she is supposed to I guess it's okay. He needs more climbing things though, probably.
Like she didn't have to google this kek
I think he actually stop growing already, he has been that side for months now, and they supposedly grow really fast.
Probable Is convenient for Taylor since she just refuse to give him a proper enclosure.
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Yeah seems weird she’s delete the tweet, thought she’d whore about it as much as possible. This is all I could find
It makes sense she can't afford it. She was talking on twitter about how she and Jonny needed to save up money and her shenanigans about getting the snake for $50.
So much for the "million dollar houses" you were supposedly looking for lmao.
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Same person that commented before
Her parents are why she's like this. They're major enablers or at least mama Dean is.
I mean they saw all those texts Chelsea showed us. Saw that its her number. And then after a couple weeks were like whatever we love Jonny now.
And her mom funded her trip to playlist live where she didn't even bother to show up cause she got high instead.
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Gotta make up for wanting him dead somehow.
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Why can't he make a normal smile
Also some ppl on twitter and instagram were mentioning how Jonny's shows in Brazil were short and not that many people showed up to see them lmao (idk if it's worth posting the screenshots since it's in portuguese)
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No but he’s so sober guys
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No his tagged photos are him high as balls
Jesus, he doesnt even have a neck from how swollen he is. RIP liver.
Cant wait the tweets " Im sick n at the hospital rn but babe @taylorndean is here w me, not like the other hoes around"
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Alright, sorry if my grammar is bad
"The show was empty, it was short and after that I saw people almost kneeling for Jonny Craig" (gross), and "it was nice, but I would be very regretted if I had paid for it"
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This one starts saying he likes Jonny but his previous bands were better, then "the show was really short, and today's sound (I think he means the technical settings?) was the worst I ever heard at Fabrique. Not worth 90 reais" (about 24 USD)
It must have been a rly underwhelming show if a fan is saying that, I live in a smaller, cheaper Brazilian city and people are happy to pay more than that for local/national artists lol
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We were talking about her hedgehogs last night and coincidentally now one of them is in a 140. Right.
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Why the fuck did she think that was a good face to use for the thumbnail? She looks like the guy from that Potion Seller video
Guys when she wrote mantis you KNOW she had to mean an orchid mantis with like the softer prettier look to it and the pink coloring!!
Why on earth wouldn’t she just clarify? I think she felt too awkward on camera to speak up. Cause that’s such an abrasive tattoo that she ended up with. And it’s way bigger than you’d think she’d go for. Idk I just feel like a soft pink orchid tat would have been pretty.
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looks like tay bought the chimera snake after all
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Why are her eyebrows so close together? She needs to chill with the dip brow. Also, that hairstyle needs to go. Especially since it’s giving her an excuse not to shower for five days. Gross.
Her hair looked terrible this entire video. Why did no one bother to tell her to fix all her flyaways?
She has the means to get her hair done while it recovers, I don’t know why she chooses to look like this
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“Let me post this pic that shows me in my underwear and let’s all pretend the focus is bindi”
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No doubt. There's no other reason to say you got a snake for practically free other than to throw off scent after saying that you have to save money.
I think by then we should have known that she had spent money.
I understand snakes are sort of like designer dogs when it comes to morphs but honestly… she could have found so many other 'nice' looking snakes for even less the price or rescued one.
She's fucking herself over big time by investing into animals when she should be saving the money
No doubt she gets some sort of weird high when adding even more animals to her “collection”. If it was with objects fine, who cares, but it angers me because you can’t just “collect” animals. They are living creatures who depend on you for quality care to live the best life they can. She treats them like fucking objects/accessories and it’s so angering.
I can’t wait until karma bites her and Jonny both in the ass. They get away with everything. They could get away with literal murder, I swear.
I wouldn’t even mind if she had some friends or other pet tubers that she was trading pets with (it happens all the time in the reptile community) but she just keeps getting new pets without rehoming any that she already has.
Or if she just had snakes or other animals that don’t need a lot of care but she’s got the monitor, the hedgehogs that obviously don’t get enough time, the blue tongue skink, and all the fish tanks.
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dont judge me for the nyan neko sugar girls that was IRONIC i promise guise
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I’m no expert, but I don’t think her pacman frog is healthy. His upper mandible is convex, protruding from his face, and every other frog I could find had a very defined angular profile. The muscles in his jaw look almost atrophied? When you look at the tone in other frogs’ jaws at the same angle. The eyes look very off, the sclera (white part) is fairly pink (which usually means some kind of irritation) and the pupils are not defined, especially in comparison. The lips on the two healthy frogs are even and tight across. Her frogs’ lips are uneven and don’t look like they seal the mouth that well. I’d love to hear from someone who knows more about frogs in whether or not my observations are accurate, I’m much more versed in mammals.
I am more of a pixie frog person but from my knowledge, her frog is in no way healthy. He definitely has some jaw deformities, which I presume are from improper diet and lack of calcium. I not once have seen her dust her feeders. And she most definitely feeds him rodent prey too often, which could also affect his health. I feed my pixies a rodent every month/month and a half and they don't get fed again until the rodent is passed.
Her frog is also seems small for its age which is never a good sign. It'd be good to see a picture that shows his size nicely since I can't say for sure he is undersized. It might just be his jaw that's making it look that way.
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"he's tame because he's captive bred guys he's the nicest monitor ever"
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Here’s what he looked like on the day she got him.
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Compared to this one
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Literally no sympathy for her.
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See, Taylor, the thing is that Demi admitted she relapsed. She put it out to the world she relapsed and also struggled previously with drugs. Your MANCHILD and you both sweep everything under the rug and make excuses when it comes to his “sobriety”.
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I remember her saying to Chelsea in a DM (that Taylor even said was real) that she has an addictive personality.
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Sounds like she’s describing herself.
It figures the only people that buy into her dime store psychology are people even more hopelessly unintelligent than herself. "Its not my fault because its a predisposed disease guys!"
As someone who was born into a family with major substance abuse problems, who truly does have an addictive personality, I refuse to allow myself to push the blame of the choices Ive made to any thing or body else other than myself. Johnny makes a constant choice everyday to be the person that he is and value using, even if just with alcohol, over the people and things he supposedly "loves", which obviously is not you Taylor. Just because your manlet of a bf is too weak to reprioritize his life, EVEN THOUGH DRINKING IS KILLING HIM AND HIS FAILING LIVER, doesnt mean that whats to blame is because he was predisposed to an addictive personality or suffers from codependency. Taylor, you absolutely suffer from codependency, just like your mother, but that doesnt mean you can project it onto other peoples issues in an effort to understand why they are the way they are.
As someone who has directly been through this themselves, you Taylor are just making excuses for him and yourself, which is ten times more pathetic than owning up to your shit lives, and terrible mental state of livelihood.
Keep using and telling your stans that you and him are sober and not using drugs, while your friends leave you one after one, because at this point we're all just enjoying the sight of your bombastic life collapse and burn around you.
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Unless that 2015 date is when she got him…
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Here she claimed mid March. So he was a little less than 3.5
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Oh so now it's the breeders fault AND old age? Lol wat.
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My heart goes out to poor Kovu :( What a fucking sad way to go, in a hot closet during a Texas summer.
Also like how she's using this as an excuse on why her videos take so long to get out, what's her excuse all the other days when she didn't kill a hedgehog
She's such a fucking terrible person. 3.5 years is a pretty abysmal lifespan for a hedgehog. The average lifespan of 4-6 years is low because most people, particularly in the US, don't provide correct care. If she had provided a bigger, more enriching enclosure, with temperature control and god forbid a proper diet, Kovu could have lived so much longer.
And I hate to be morbid, but I called this just a mere three days ago. Her animals deserve so much more than her fake sadness and laziness.>>644476>>644484>>645094
She's also made them eggs and given them mealworms on camera (live, not freeze-dried). She's actually given them a decent-looking
diet rather than just pure kibble 24/7
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Fuck off Taylor and take some responsibility.>>647244
Interesting how quickly the story went from "he's great! the closet is perfect for him!" to "yeah, I figured he'd be dead by now, not my fault though!"
She is allowing him to continue to drink on some fronts. You know, I don't know how rehab may work but someone should be there to establish boundaries for drinking/drug use, and we all know she just isn't the person. He's gonna drink? Cool dude, I don't mind. He's gonna do some coke? Ayyy fam idm.
I don't know why she's acting like she can support this man through any type of recovery when he doesn't want to recover (which imo is the key to success in these cases) but is also going to go abroad and get hammered.
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I just checked morph market. The seller just renewed his chimera ad today.
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Yeah, he was a light in my life. So much so that I barely post about him, barely film him, barely even talk about him on film. Ignoring the crap living conditions for a second, this is exactly why I lost interest in Taylor.
So many animals, so many new animals, so much bombing on how much she loves them, so strapped for video ideas she either forces them to do things or gets a new animal for the sake of a single video… And yet we know goddamn nothing about them. No updates on anything she's had longer than two months, no plans for the future with them, no personality or genuine enthusiasm in anything. The cats are probably the biggest offenders in that we know nothing of their characteristics, but the hedgies were a close second.
Quirky! Different! Not like other girls!
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Of course she deleted the tweet.
Then went off trying to act like his death is about her. She's so self centered.
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This enclosure is so mediocre. I would legit be embarrassed to post this online. I know there's more to it based on the reflection, but it's still garbage.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure if Kovu die from something it could be from a heat
(Ex: when Jonny said it was really hot in the department during a Livestream)
I can bet my ass she keep them in the closet with door lock all the time.
Besides most of the time I have seen other YouTubers announced the near death of their pets because they have notice weird behaviors on them
If he die from "old age" you could have notice things like; it's getting more senil, it doesn't eat like before,etc.
Those little things but like always Taylor prefers to go for something more vague and the classic "it was de bruuder fault!ii1"
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She originally claimed it was 140. >>645094
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Horrible diet for a pac-man frog.
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3 years old seems to be an unlucky age for her animals. This screenshot is about Gus. The death script she used here was more or less reused for Kovu.
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It's her specialty! She mentioned Gus died, made a morbid joke, then went on to do an ad for swagbucks!
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Into a little rack you go!
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Unreal. She's fucking horrific.
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Yeah, their tail is necrotic. Her animals deserve so much better.
You'd think that common sense would tell her that this vet is not working and should go to another one, but no.
But then again, this is most likely the same vet who approves of all the shit she does too so why am I surprised.
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Clear shot. May 19, 2018. It was very clearly necrotic OVER 3 MONTHS AGO.
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The tail looks quite a bit better here. But any good vet would amputate something the minute it starts going necrotic, once tissue is dead it will spread and spread until it eventually kills the animal. I've dealt with necrotic tissue first hand through rescuses. I'm not sure why her vet would recommend iodine baths for necrotic tissue
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1) Tail rot is not common, who is she trying to kid.
2) If it's so easy why did you wait months to have it amputated?
3) Who would ever take advice from her?
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It's tail looks fine here compared to >>647438
maybe she or Jonny injured it and she blames this on the breeder once again?
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Here’s the rest of the story.
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Looking at how high up it's tail was amputated, compared to the picture she posted when she first got him on the left. His tail is totally healthy looking much farther down then the amputation shows now. Seems like neglect to me, even if they didn't cause the injury in the first place it obviously spread.
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So I rewatched her first video talking about the apartment and literally she opens the closet door to show the hedgehogs meaning the door was kept closed…..
She is fucking disgusting
Her fans think she’s such an animal lover who goes above and beyond to take care of her pets but in reality she is an animal hoarder with 40+ animals she is constantly lying about and LITERALLY shoving into closets to keep there. It makes me want to cry for these poor animals she has, what a god damn disgusting piece of shit she is. Someone please call her out on this
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Hedgehogs are prey animals, they should never be near predators. It's like she wants her hedgehogs to die.
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Retweeting something like this is gross. But the original tweet was gross on its own.
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Ironic that she thinks this person is stupid when baby Savannah monitors look pretty similar to baby black throat monitors, which is what she thought he was for over a month.
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This frog isn't in good shape. What hasn't been mentioned is how dilated his pupils are, every picture of him is like this and it makes me wonder how responsive he is to stimuli around him or what his behavior is like. It could be indicative of neurological issues.
I hate to give TND the benefit of the doubt, but her frog may have been defective from the start. Some issues don't show until the frog begins developing. However, as shown in >>647375
she is absolutely not helping him with the way she feeds him. You can have a genetically lacking animal and still do your best to give it a good life. Feeding the poor thing mice this often and not dusting any feeders is putting it on the fast track for blindness, MBD, renal failure, and edema (caused by the renal failure), all of which are irreparable once the damage is caused. >>646661
There is a way to make sure they have all they need without a UVB lighting setup, but as I know Tay lurks, I don't want to give her anything to parrot later on when pressed about it.
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I'm glad someone is calling her out on twitter.
This is fake af. I know the breeders and they work very closely with an SA reptile rescue. Their bearded dragons literally never have problems because they care for them so well. I was also at this expo. There was not 100’s of bearded dragons at the booth, there wasn’t even that many at the entire expo.
I took pictures that day, I’ll have to see if there’s any that show the bearded dragon table.
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Too lazy to cut
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From her tone, I think Taylor might be panicking. And her stans are fucking delusional. You don't try to "fix" necrosis. You cut it off. She just doesn't want to take responsibility for letting the necrosis spread for 8 fucking months. Now instead of losing the tip of a tail, Twisty lost a huge portion of it. It's neglect pure and simple.
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I just don't get it. We are taking about risking the life of your pet….for the tip of it's tail?
Besides Tyler doesn't have a room to talk, he literally kill two bearded dragons and their litter (who he backyard breed btw) cause a infection.STFU
You would think has an animal lover she would report that breeder right away instead of buying from him
A lot of her stans went to that event has well, following her lie, she not only support that but also enable it.
She keeps harping on the notion that she had to wait 8 months to amputate because he would have died under anesthesia. First, I think that must be an exaggeration. Aren't there young beardies somewhere who need surgery? They're a common pet, a vet should be able to figure out a safe amount.
I was also looking in a forum about beardie tail rot surgeries, and they brought up a good point: at that level of necrosis it's likely all the nerve endings have died and blood supply is gone. Possibly a local anesthetic could be used instead, especially before it spread past the tip.
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Someone should make that office meme about her. 0 days since TND blamed someone else.
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“Never did it again”
I don’t think that means what you think it means lmao, it was literally less than a week ago.
Wish I knew how to use twitter better, I like that she’s panicking about the couple of responses I made.
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Here's a link to her response from the screenshot:
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Maximum keks she blocked me. Fun while it lasted.
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This isn’t even a reptile specialist or an exotic vet.
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So if this is true, why didn’t she take the bearded dragon here to begin with instead of going to a different vet for 6 months?