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If you are new, please make sure you read:https://lolcow.farm/info
22 year old "family friendly pet mom" Youtuber, her creepy controlling mother, and her 32 year old junkie ex-boyfriend Jonny Craig.
Previous thread: >>>/pt/680528
The basics:> Taylor is a notorious animal hoarder known for collecting 40+ rare and exotic pets and manhandling/mistreating them for the sake of her Youtube channel which has over 1 million subscribers. Many pets have died in her care, many more have fallen ill due to her neglect or disappeared after "rehoming" them. Fails to give proper enclosures for many of her pets, including overstuffing fish tanks, keeping her kittens locked in the bathroom, and her mouse and hedgehog in the closet.> Jonny Craig, who has very recently become Taylor’s ex and has moved in with his dad in NY state, was the frontman of the band Slaves and is most well-known for being an outspoken abusive junkie. He has been in and out of rehab centers for a decade now and has been kicked out of multiple bands and off of tours for his behavior. He is usually homeless when he does not have a girlfriend to leech off of.> Several of Jonny's ex-girlfriends have come out with stories of Jonny's physical and sexual abuse, including rape at knife-point. His ex Chelsea confided this in Taylor when she and Jonny first started dating, in which Taylor's response was to laugh with Jonny and make a public spectacle of it.> Taylor loves to throw pity parties for herself and dodge around the real issues when faced with criticism about her husbandry, hoarding, and hypocrisy. She can never keep her stories straight and will tell outright lies only to contradict them hours later. Her fans are sycophants who only encourage her.
Facebook (private:) https://www.facebook.com/Taylor.Nicole.Dean
(currently deactivated as of 6/29)
List of all Taylor's pets:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QNUksDcQk_cqLTkTFTiPjP2pCGBQgORyCesIIqvZ2Zs/edit?pli=1
Requires update of new frog, tarantula, crabs dying and all the fish outside of the 150 “rehomed”
Stats of Taylor’s pets and history:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1e8bakM4GHa2J1y4qwYsB-T0jSpN5uWCI_q0dv-odij4/htmlview#
New Milk:>Jonny is still creepily attached to Taylor, posting IG stories about "her smell." >>680913>Taylor posts her venmo transactions between Jake and a dealer without realizing people can look it up to see their full names >>681001 Turns out Jake is a convicted felon for controlled substance possession and multiple DUIs, as well as divorced with a child>Taylor continues to show off bites from her foster ball python as she continues to bother it>Taylor panics and cries about being stalked and murdered by the internet after she left too many obvious clues to her location, leading her to move to a new sober home where she can keep her snake and cats>Promises not to take any identifying photos of the new sober home… and fails immediately by posting the dog >>681120 as well as various other shots of the home >>681852>She continues to call herself an addiction educator and demand more youtube videos be made about addiction… (Hello, Shane Dawson?) while also joking about meth heads and talking casually about how much and what type of heroin she used>Taylor explains how she was brought to rehab, going against her earlier story about taking a tour and deciding to stay >>681238>Taylor gets a gun. >>681283 All hell breaks loose, especially as she cannot buy a gun as she is in sober living. >>681565 She reveals she left it with the friend that bought it with her, which is also illegal. >>681402 She claims she was pressured into getting the gun by her friend. >>681717>A weird guy named Eric Anthony Cantu sends multiple tweets to Taylor as well as texts. Apparently was introduced through Jonny and was one of their dealers. >>682338>The blood python goes to Destry from Taylor with an RI, without Taylor ever mentioning the RI>She reveals she is on buprenorphine >>682889>Nemo continues to look skinny while Star balloons.
> Recent Known additions to the hoard of animals: Spider ball python (Motley?)> Recent Known Deaths: ~> Recent Known “Rehomed”: Blood python, to Destry (destrykarma)
Videos which sum up the drug addiction situation: https://youtu.be/IczGyFh0LBghttps://youtu.be/9tblAt5NX9w
Unconfirmed Milk:> Taylor might really be kicked out of sober living this time, whether over the pet acquisitions or something else> Getting evicted from the new house> TND is trying to complete her “redemption” to youtube> Jonny has already sold $5k+ computer set-up to buy drugs, has not mentioned streaming in a week or two> TND has already relapsed, or is having some other mental breakdown causing such overactivity online> Photos of black snake (Salem) with possible mites, TND claims is just aspen (bedding) dust
All Previous Threads:
General Pettuber Thread:>>>/snow/831551
thanks to >>683072
for the thread pic! sorry if any errors in OP, just wanted to get up a new thread.
I can't post a link to here on the old thread as it hit post limit.
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Thank you OP!
Wasn't she supposed to upgrade their cage as soon as she moved into the Atrium house? So what is "again", was there ever an upgrade between when she got them with the DCN and now?
She said the DCN was damaged when moving into the atrium house so I think she moved them back into their old cage. Then it appeared she got them some kind of big bird cage which they've been living in, I guess that's the upgrade she's talking about?
Also that cage is a Ferret Nation, not a Critter Nation. Usually the bar spacing of a FN is fine for adult males and some larger females, but she should be careful. Not sure why she didn't go for a CN again. Probably because she's low on cash and FN are cheaper.
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more from her Twitter that she posted earlier while we were between threads
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How long did Taylor have the blood python? He had an RI the entire time and she didn't take him to the vet
the obliviousness is amazing. it's dehumanizing to use the word "retard" when it's not even directed at him, but apparently cooing over how 'pure' it is that he phoned up customer service ALL ON HIS OWN isn't? the kid has more brain cells than you, taylor.
seems like a fake story for internet points anyway, i have a hard time believing the word "retard" made it into a nick show let alone it being aired.
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She also got posted to a prominent (1.5m) meme page with the tofu vid. Lots of people calling her out in the comments, surprisingly enough none of them mentioned the substance abuse, just hoarding and neglect.
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She deleted the tweet about making the video.
What gives Taylor the right to talk about anybody’s animal care right now? You’ve been doing heroin for the past year and a half. Plus you have other people taking care of your zoo right now because you don’t even have a place for them to stay and you’re incapable of taking care of them while simultaneously living in sober living. So SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY!!!! Mind your fucking business, Taylor and worry about the health of your own fucking zoo.
The audacity this ignorant bimbo has to even try and talk shit about someone else’s animals.
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reposting this from the end of the last thread since it's so hilariously delusional.
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This was tweeted while in between threads.
Also, thanks for the new thread OP. Might I add that maybe it’s important information to add for this thread up top that the Eric dude tweeted saying that she’s sent him pix before. So it’s safe to say that she has flirted with him maybe to get something out of him? And that she posted screenshots trying to make him seem he is a weirdo (he is) but that they were organizing to meet up? I think it’s something else that shows that she has relapsed already as many of us think she has.
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Taylor’s insta story has Halsey’s 11 minutes away is it bro dick she’s missing? Or Jonny.
So call me stupid, call me sad
You're the best I've ever had
You're the worst I've ever had
And that keeps fucking with my head
Song link since uploading her insta video is too much workhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0ehtCAewWYY
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Taylor’s insta story rat Vet visit:
“All doing great”
“And if we can take care of their social issues…”
>>683592>vet mentions rats social issues> Taylor on Twitter "omg vet said they're the friendliest rats evur guise" >>683563
I find this extremely funny since we mentioned this in the previous thread, how her cage had broken for the rats and she couldn't get them a new critter nation due to spending "4000 on a new enclosure for Kronos" and now she's suddenly upgrading. Took her long enough. I feel so sad for those poor ratties.
That's a ferret nation cage, not a critter nation. I will be surprised if her females don't escape which will obviously lead to disaster. Funnily enough, the FN is the cheaper of the 2 models so it is no surprise to me that she is compromising safety for money.
Those poor rats just keep getting backhanded. She obviously doesn't care. She's just a clout chaser.
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I still can't get over this bullshit. How hard is it to find a vet that has some decent reviews with a quick Google search?
Instead she chose to prolong the suffering of an animal that was sick. She KNEW he had an RI, which also makes it worse that she was handling it and stressing it out to the point of biting and losing 6 teeth, and that can potentially cause infections for the snake. And for what? To act edgy and cool in front of the guys in Jake's sober living. Fuck you Taylor for putting an animal in harms way yet again to get attention. After this she just dumps it with her mother, and then it gets handed over to yet another person.
"Mainly just take care of their social issues […]"
So their lack of socialization isn't even the only thing wrong with her rat care, just the main/most critical thing. I think all of animalkind needs to take out a restraining order against this lady.
THIIIIS what the fuck.
She apparently HAS a vet here??? >>683592
Is this not in Austin?? >>683514
She is so full of shit! >>683575
And this was apparently during when she was going on about people not being able to afford to take their animals for check ups at the vet and that they shouldn't have animals if they can't take them to the vet. She projects soooooooo hard to deflect any blame from herself and to pretend like she isn't that person but she is. It's probably safe to say that whatever she spergs about, she is most likely guilty of.>>683563
She is literally the Donald Trump of the animal world
Weird ass nitpick
<<iT HaZ hOLeS>>
Rodents pee EVERYWHERE. They leave drops of pee as a trail. What does pee have in it? Ammonia… In a plastic tub with AiR HoLeS poked in those poor rats. >>683592
Haha the fucking vet said the rat has social issues and we all fucking called this! She never took those rats out of that cage she pisses me off!
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She always has to try and chase that clout. Her replies are pretty funny though if you have time to read them. Most people think she’s an idiot because they’re protein bars (I am not certain if that’s correct or not). Just there for the giggles.
It's a free protein/granola bar. It's not like it's diet pills
But she saw a chance to get attention so she took advantage of that by misrepresenting the situation. In another tweet she compared it to giving drugs to a heroin addict
if you're that fucking triggered
over a snack a company includes as a gift in your order, YOU'RE the problem. i bet if they included a piece of candy no one would be throwing a tantrum over it and say how cute and sweet it is. she's really feeding into that SJW "tHiS iS pRobLemAtiC
" bullshit lately and it's hilarious.
That may be true but the point still stands, especially because she also has her spider morph ball python with her obviously without a vet. And that one probably actually does need check ups. She's always a hypocrite.
If she can't differentiate between the morph's issues and and it just being ~goofy~ she probably can't differentiate between a healthy animal and a sick animal anyway.
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I mean Taylor would know - it’s the big bad meanies on the internet that made her do heroin!
Then don’t shop at forever 21 JFC. Go back to buying trashy clothes from Fashion Nova.
I mean heaven forbid that Atkins promotes A low carb diet since this country is facing an obesity epidemic but go off Taylor while you eat like shit.
I’m fucking tired of everyone in the world being SPECIAL. But my eating disorder, but my drug addiction… facing obstacles in life is a given. How is catering to every special person in the world even benefiting them? I mean for fucks sake, look at TND for example.
You know what's actually triggering
? Someone talking about how amazing roxies and fentanyl are and how much they love and miss them. Aka half of Taylor's Twitter. I'm sure she won't STFU about it in person either
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Who gets offended over getting a free protein bar.
If she instantly snaps because of a free protein bar, she must be really unhappy with her body. Ever other normal person would be happy about it or throw it away.>>683692
This is beyond retarded. Who is she, fucking Phoebe I'm-opressed Tickner?
Just because of a few fatties who "fall back" because they revived a single protein bar, no one should've gotten a free sample of it? >send chocolate with something
I'm offended. I've falled back into eating 10K calories a day>send something healthy with something
I'm offended. I've fallen back into eating 10K calories a day
If she wants her fanbase to be more mature people, she should overcome that "I-???? I'm offended. That's literally
disgusting" phase she's going through right now.
LOL. Can't wait to see what she replies with. Taylor really gonna die on this hill of lies, isn't she? Probably because she knows it was a shitty thing to do to accuse someone of sexual assault, so now that she's "coming clean" about stuff she's gonna double down on this because otherwise she'll look like more of a cunt than she already is.
Also it's apparent she was NOT sober at all during this event, so why is she still trying to frame it that way? She and Bree both did coke, Bree owned up to it and Taylor has admitted to not being sober at all so heaven knows why she's still trying to pretend she was.
which brings us right back to the fine point of body autonomy. Taylor had a choice to bring coke in.
When Tyler and Madi (I think it was Madi) did the livestream, they glazed over it. They said they didn’t know about the assault.
She’s a worthless piece of cunt. False accusations take credibility from real victims
. But Taylor wouldn’t know shit about that. Her entire identity is based around the reward system of getting attention, and sympathy for situations she put herself into.
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So you can run to impulse buy a gun again ?
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Its funny we discussed who turtlemom maybe was, and now she's accusing a random girl of being her? Kekkkkk.
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She’s back to referring to the Bree situation as sexual assault. She back peddled hard on this before but it’s hard for her to keep up with her own lies so now it’s sexual assault again
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This is her back peddling the last time she “shared her story”
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is she just catching up on the thread where it was posted about this account? LOL
"I figured out" aka "I read on LOLCOW"
Yes, Taylor. A single thing CAN trigger
someone - just like the many that have relapse in your sober livingS (plural) bc just like you constantly tweet about it, we sure as hell can say that you also talk like that in person. So a single thing CAN trigger
someone into relapse. Youre one of them.
Funny how she always includes herself in things without even realizing it? just like another anon said on here. She tweets shit that also have to do with her.
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"she told me to bring cocaine" because she probably knew you had access to it SINCE YOU WERE ALREADY ON DRUGS. How would you relapse Taylor?Wasnt she already H during this time? didnt she say she was high for a certain amount of time?
Please continue to bring shit up from the past because you will just incriminate yourself even more.
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Full SS the stan tweeted at Taylor
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Its always SOMEONE lmao. Full of shit.
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Quick! Distract people with a tweet about filming snd uploading!!
"so excited to get the video up AS SOON AS I FEEL PREPPED"
same shit different day
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Her stans are already harassing cosmicxhoney. I wish her stans would stop taking her word on this with 0 proof.
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Looks like the real 'Angela88753425 spoke up & (surprise-surprise) it is NOT @cosmixhoney
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Pot calling kettle black
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Yep, it's ALL just ONE person…
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don't you remember that everyone here is just one person as well?
here she goes building a narrative again, classic tay behavior.
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Plot Twist: Matt dean is just into bbw.
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She claims this, but she barely has any followers on Twitter
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Expect a shitshow from Jen. Shes watching.
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She talks about harassment being wrong but insults 6th graders at the same time
Your mom is mentally ill just like you, Taylor. Your mom makes herself look like a psycho on Twitter all by herself. She tweets like a third grader and comes across manic most of the time.
The Dean family dynamic is TOXIC
. One minute your parents actually give a damn about you and your safety, you threaten and drag them on social media, then your mother passive aggressively tweets you, then she rescues you from your drug den, and now you love her again. Your family should get help. Nothing about this dynamic is healthy and it’s immature.
I already know it isn't the girl in the picture & it isn't cosmixhoney either, just some random troll.
God, Taylor just needs to get reported into oblivion. I'm sick of seeing her target innocent people over the smallest fucking criticism & then play dumb when people tell her that her fans have a habit of mobbing
Nice admission of cowtipping. Are you planning to message Taylor to tell her people on Twitter are "stealing her identity" by using her picture on their profile? Jfc
Not going believe an account with barely any followers is real because you come in and claim it. Especially when you seem like a dumb Taylor stan claiming it's "identity theft"
I should be banned? Lol for notifying someone that someone on Twitter is using their photo without permission??? Mentioning nothing else BUT twitter or TND. Alright lmao. Sorry, but if someone was using my photo for trolling/harassment purposes I would want to know too.
Also, sage your shit.
Oh get fucked. Last year people discussed wether Taylor had a long vagina or not. There's always some people here and there that take it a notch too far. Get of your moral high horse. >>683802
I'm actually curious if turtlemom will post more about daddy dean now out of spite lmao
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Tinfoil but this girl types and spergs out exactly like Taylor
Tay Tay, a truck driving down the road, a plane flying over, fireworks can trigger
somebody! Should we stop driving, flying or having fun because some snowflake might be triggered
? Fuck no! Stop with the SJW shit you can only worry about yourself and cant live your life trying not to trigger
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But she was so against Louis Vuitton
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Taylor’s lying escapades have got to stop.
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In other words, she's stressing him out just to get that "funny quirky" post>>683833
Hmm I'm inclined to side with other anon here and that it is very suspicious, can be some super old account she had before. She strikes me as someone who has more than 1 up her sleeve.
Louis was named after Louis Vuitton. He is considered a designer snake and a lot of LVs are made out of python, SOOO YEAH, NOT COOL. YOU WONT CATCH ME BUYING ONE OF THOSE, EVER.
YOU WONT CATCH ME BUYING ONE OF THOSE EVER, YET HERE SHE IS WITH AN LV ON HER BED. HIGHLY DOUBT ITS A KNOCKOFF SINCE SHE LOVES TO SPEND HER MONEY TO SEEM BOUJIE.
SHE CANT EVEN REMEMBER SHIT SHE HAS SAID ANYMORE.
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And now back to the ol' "CANCEL CULTURE BAD" tweets
Funny how she tweets this right after
continuing to accuse BreezExotics of sexual assault & blaming cosmixhoney over someone else
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Taylor literally two hours ago. I wOuLd NeVeR
BUT Anon, she was forceeeed to do iiiiit! /s
oh but anon, she felt forced
by Breevil to smuggle it through TSA! even though Bree "didn't even know how to cut a line of coke", Taylor was the poor innocent victim
who never wanted to do the drugs in the first place boohoohoo
I hope there are texts of Taylor confirming this and Bree drops them like a badass
Taylor is the one threatening to sue all these people when Bree is the one that has an actual potential lawsuit here.
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Might be an atrium house on the market soon
Wonder if it will include abandoned cats?
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Honestly I completely agree with Taylor for the first time ever. Turtlemom is fucking insane and I'm not sure what more proof you need that it's cosmixhoney than the posts in the last thread. I believe the other accounts are her too, especially because she hasn't been tweeting as much from turtlemom. She's too involved in this drama and if I were Taylor I would actually be concerned about this weird bitch.
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While I believe that Jonny took control of her Soc Media, blaming the exes is not
the right thing to do, Taylor…
>>683881>> they were never able to leave because of the exes.
Wtf is she talking about? They are
Just admit that you willfully stayed in the relationship and move the fuck on. Your parents were trying to help you and showing up to your apartment and you refused to let her in. You wanted to date a POS and you dated one and also got a heroin addiction in addition to that said relationship.
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Chelsea and Taylor talked. Chelsea had shared her story with Taylor, and Taylor responded with the texts that Chelsea ended up sharing later. Taylor also went on a huge splurg about JC.
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Taylor, and Jonny both chalked what Chelsea had said as a lie. Both laughing. Taylor deleted her tweets (they are appreciated if any of you can find them)
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And this was Taylor’s response to Chelsea’s tweets / video she did with Pumpkiim
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Sorry for the samefag, but I just wanted to make sure we are all on the same page. Taylor is lying, yet again.
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She also made plenty posts like these throughout the entire relationship. She didn't really decrease much with posts about him and how they were goals. Usually when the relationship grows more and more toxic and abusive, you post less and less and suddenly it's rarely. She did not post rarely about them.
Sage because not new milk, but to point out she is a lying cow doing her typical creation of a victim narrative she doesn't fit.
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Sorry for samefag but Jen has posted this on Twitter. These two live in a cycle of taunting, big mouthing, bullying and a grandiose victim complex when people respond to said behaviours. It's insane.
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Even her stories aren't her own.
Jonny left on tour. She had ample opportunity to leave him…she wasn’t handcuffed to a bed while he was gone…I’m sure her parents would have gladly help her move the minute he stepped out the door!
She CHOSE to stay and CHOSE to do drugs. No gun to her head!
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Pretty much sums up today's shitstorm
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Many of the tweets from November 5 2017, when Taylor and her parents had the showdown over her moving in with Jonny, are archived.http://archive.is/https://twitter.com/taylorndean*
If a cow is DFE or a thread is long, dropping the URL into archive.is is faster than taking screencaps. They are easier to find later than scrolling through LC threads.
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Yeah she NEVER wanted to be in that relationship at all!
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I hope this doesn't get dropped as fast as everything else has.
I appreciate that.
I hope people dont let up on her. I wish more people would talk about it.
Because she's a narcissist. It's all just one VERY vengeful person & it couldn't be any more because everyone loves her
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Is it a fetish to look at snakes eat? And I agree with twitter fan that is a big ass rat for that corn at this size! Also does she use those containers for all her animals? Didnt she take her rats to the vet in those same containers?
I do feel like we have good reason to believe the cosmixhoney is "Angela" "Angel" and turtlemom_
Cosmix is having a mental breakdown on twitter right now, the Angela account (with the stolen picture) is gone, and another account is breaking down as well.
However, there's a lot of accounts that I believe are separate from the situation.
Same fag, but it should also be noted that a bunch of tweets about Jonny/Taylor have been deleted since somebody did the google search for Angel. She's been going on about him for years.
I think it's very likely that for once, Taylor was right.
She, Papa Dean, and Mama Dean had interacted. Angel mentioned talking to Mama Dean about Taylor a while ago.
I think she just started operating more on the alternate accounts.
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she posted a pic after that shows it's in her snake rack, where yes unfortunately most of her snakes are. Otherwise they have other (equally inadequate imo) enclosures.
>She's been going on about him for years.
With good reason. Jonny has hurt a LOT of people, yet manages to squeeze past the law every
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I took the liberty of capping her Jonny tweets back when we were talking about her last. Long image, sorry.
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Note that custom cages (the company where she got it from) calls it a breeding rack
We've already discussed why the whole stolen picture is questionable. The "real" account posted another picture from a popular Reddit post. That doesn't prove anything.
And that Angel account posted they were going to deactivate because of harassment from Taylor stans … Before the "real" Angel started sperging out.
I think Taylor has pissed off so many people that it's more likely it's not all the same person. And because Taylor would post the proof If there was any. It's another lie
Angela actually spoke up earlier >>683761
but no one was paying attention because they were too busy dogpiling on the wrong fucking person
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Maybe y'all wouldn't be having this 'cycle' if you taught your damn kid about accountability?
Suddenly everyone is mean?
Your daughter is making false sexual assault allegations. Wtf Jen
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I could’ve sworn she was just at about 270k followers after dropping from 274k …
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Kek turtlemom is at least definitely cosmixhoney. Look through the last thread. I'm pretty sure that Plantsss2 account is also her too. She has some weird obsession with trying to get Taylor to unblock her, along with "holding her accountable" and always acts like she has agency in Taylor's life. Now watch, there will be a bunch of posts after this about old milk and/or how Angel had eVeRy rIgHt to be an obsessive weirdo. Or how it absolutely can't be her, even with the 800 forms of evidence given. Or acting like Taylor said every hate page is her. She tries to throw people off her track, I've been watching how she acts for a while now and I think it's time to speak up. Plus I'm not sure what more proof you need. She literally wanted people to guess who she was, so I'm not sure why she's mad and trying to throw us off now. She should be creaming herself that King TayTay noticed her. The bitch is honestly not all there and this has been going on for years. This level of obsession and involvement is scary and I think it's time she shut it down.
Amsay/Martha is also having a mental break down. Sorry, I got it mixed. >>683974
Yeah, I think cosmix IS turtlemom. Turtlemom has talked to Taylor's parents, and cosmix had a tweet talking about confronting the parents. Papa Dean also interacted with cosmix.
It seems like cosmix got mad at him over him calling her jabba the hut, and just generally mad he exists, with his abusive
I fucked up I thought Angel/Angela was the same person.>>683976
Can someone provide a tldr on who cosmix is? How do they know Jonny?
Oh for sure anon. And >>680970
obviously wasn't just made up. Plus cosmixhoney is deleting all her tweets about JC and shit. I'm not sure how much more obvious it could be at this point. I mean she all but flat out admitted it. Where did Papa Dean call her jabba the hutt?She has a lot of "friends" obsessed with Taylor too that will try to deflect for her. I mean she even had what ever change her name to "cosmixhoney" too, and they're tweeting each other about how LoLz eVeRyOnE is turtlemom. Nice try guys, Angel you were outed, just stop. We aren't that stupid. You need some serious help, and if people on lolcow are saying you're obsessive you know it's serious.
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Where was this? I swear I vaguely remember that.
How can you post pictures like this and run multiple hate accounts? Christ. And a bunch of pictures of her ass.
Tweets and replies archived back six pages to July 22nd. It can be continued earlier.http://archive.is/CMDF6
As she continues to post the first page needs to be freshly archived.http://archive.is/https://twitter.com/taylorndean/with_replies
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this is getting ridiculous. you were outed, turtlemom_ aka cosmixhoney, stop this bullshit and stop trying to involve other people in it.
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actually jonny may have started it, idk now. depends what other accounts or deleted tweets she may have used to sperg about him and when.
my last post on her since she's getting ot unless taylor and mama dean keep flipping out.
This is not milk. This was done as a joke, and done because Taylor was accusing all of the accounts of being the same person.
The only reason we were discussing turtlemom_ was because Taylor accused Angela of being cosmixhoney (which was false). Taylor threatened, and then said she was getting restraining order because she assumed it was her. But there's speculation, and good reason to believe that turtlemom_ is cosmixhoney.
what? that’s not true. abusive
relationships aren’t black and white. victims
don’t always act exactly the same way. anon don’t be obtuse just for the sake of dragging taylor, it doesn’t help anyone’s cause. plenty of people in seriously dangerous abusive
relationships post shit like that all the time for the sake up keeping up appearances and preventing anyone from asking questions. if someone’s really been through the shit and they’re brainwashed into thinking their abuser is the only one in their life with their best interest in mind, you bet your ass they’re gonna post dumb lovey dovey shit. not saying that’s necessarily taylor’s deal but human beings aren’t some kind of equation, saying someone can’t be in an abusive
relationship because they talk nicely about their abuser is nonsensical.
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Jesus anon. 30 seconds of research.
Plus, turtlemom has actually had history with Jonny Craig & is familiar with his behaviour & manipulation.
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What research do I need to do? I said "stop involving other people". Or is this the part where you guys pretend someone here thinks you're all turtlemom to deflect?
@cosmixhoney = @turtlemom_ .
And a bunch of other accounts are likely hers too, but I don't have solid proof.
I'm 95% sure @yungwheezie on Twitter is an old account of hers which goes back to 2017 and is literally only tweets about Jonny and his exes and shit. I could be wrong about that one but it fits perfectly.
How the fuck are you guys (her and her "friends") gonna just come in here and go "nope not her" after all the evidence that was posted? You're enabling her delusions. If you were really this girl's friend you would tell her to step away from the computer. >>684011
Okay it's obvious what's going on now. And I agree with the one anon that posted she was mad about JC calling her Jabba the Hut. Bitch the only history you have with Jonny is your crazy long running internet obsession.
"Familiar with manipulation" kek really? Oh boy, there's a reason to devote your entire fucking life to a bunch of people you don't know and involve yourself in every aspect of their drama.(stop derailing)
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I’ve had a random anonymous account for a while now, and I made a thread about TND a year or so ago. Her dad messaged me around then and gave me alllll the details. I never posted the messages because he asked me not to. My account has been on private since then, but obviously her dad messages a lot of accounts.
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Scroll up and also go to the last thread. I'm not babying you and compiling everything. You guys can scream "nO eVidEnCe" but there are literally like 5 things. Anyone who comes here will see plain as day that it's her, so don't waste your breath trying to defend her.
I would actually suggest Taylor do something further to keep this loon in check but tbh if I were her I'd just keep blocking her because it obviously drives her up a fucking wall.
This is my final post on this bitch but I've been wanting to say something. I just think she's beyond obsessed and I don't like how she's trying to flip the narrative so everyone thinks Taylor randomly attacked some ~uwu innocent sex worker~ and goes after her for "targeted harassment". Taylor does stupid shit constantly but even a broken clock is right twice a day.
Damn, forget about the tea accountd, Mr.Dean is the real
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Ok last one
to to the cat… One of the kittens? Or Chelsea's cats
Ahh I thought you meant you posted a thread on here not a Twitter thread kek.
It's really fucking weird he messages the "tea" accounts and spills all this information. Like wtf is his actual motive? These accounts aren't TMZ, this one apparently only had 50 followers at the time. Someone speculated he was having an affair with the one drama account and honestly maybe that's more accurate than we thought? Or he's at least attempting to get to that point by offering gossip? I mean seriously, wtf is actually going on here?
The leak was coming from inside
the Dean house all along!
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He practically admitted that she has histrionic personality disorder. Sounds like Taylor, all right. Wow, I can’t believe her own father would out her like that to a complete stranger. I’m sure he was fed up though, as he has had to deal with Taylor and his estranged wife for so many years. That’d make anyone crazy.
… He talked to an anonymous Twitter account and told them not to tell anyone. It's not like it was a therapist or a doctor.
And he has harassed people who said the exact same shit he said in those DMs. He's psyhco like the rest of them. FFS her mom just tweeted people are mean for no reason while Taylor is MAKING FAKE SEXUAL ASSAULT ACCUSATIONS
How is that not enabling???
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The video of Jonny calling the cat a cunt.
who are you replying to?>>684064
no doctors thanks. her father is a big a nut as the rest of these characters and his version of events, while entertaining, can't be trusted either.
Archives of Taylor's tweets beginning that November 5th >>683931
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I archived each page using the right arrow button links (I did not archive the left button; use your browser's back button).https://archive.is/INODB
There's a huge power imbalance between her and her stans and all these people she ever retweets. Yes, you're harassing random people who aren't even rude to you Taylor - get over yourself and stay humble.
I'd be fucking embarrassed to accuse someone of something so publicly while being wrong and sending them after the wrong fucking person.
And look, even if they got one of the accounts right it's still a fucking mess that should have been handled privately rather than setting a bunch of idiots on her. >>684033
I imagine her dad wants to actually discipline her behaviour or set her straight despite her being an adult but he can't because Jen is an absolute nutter too. Perhaps he was honest already and was told to essentially shut up because clearly Jen has little clue on how to parent.
Most likely bought bots to up her count since shes been losing real people in reality. I was the original anon that stated initially that she had 276k. then slowly 275k.
The other day she was in fact at 270k.
She this sus.
Now this is the tea and CONFIRMATION of what has been said ALL ALONG about Taylor since she dumped Jonny. She is the master manipulator here and Jonny boy got played HAHAH.
Now Taylor, go get help.
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First thing in the morning, Jen? Come on.
>>684038>>683974>800 forms of evidence given>what more proof you need
so the evidence is one anon sperging about clues and dress patterns in the last thread with zero screenshots to back it up >>680970
, cosmicxhoney kind of sounding like turtlemom and being similarly obsessed with JC, and matt dean interacting with both cosmicxhoney and turtlemom accounts?
I'd discredit the third point tbh since matt is clearly insane enough to dm a lot of drama accounts >>684033
Turtlemom may as well be some random obsessive weirdo from denmark or wherever (she always has dutch screenshots iirc). I personally wouldn't be surprised either way though.
What I would do to be a fly on the wall when Taylor opens this thread and sees the screen caps of her dad outting her.
Imagine never taking any accountability for your actions. So much so that you stay in an abusive
relationship just because you don’t want to admit that everyone was right and you were wrong. There’s really no coming back from this. Put I’m sure she’ll find a way to twist the story and be a victim
per usual. You can say that this website is obsessed with you or whatever you paint in your head Taylor, but one things for sure, we always tell the truth. When was the last time you told the truth lol.
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HOLY SHIT NEXT THREAD IMAGE PLEASE
I know this is an embarrassing move being a parent but keep in mind I'm pretty sure there was a point where Taylor BLOCKED her parents and they could not get a hold of her. This is probably why they went so public on twitter (there might even be tweets of them saying this) because pretty sure they were pleading for people to get to their daughter.>>683933This
is an example of how she manipulated her own parents and probably went public about them first. Though sometimes they're crazy I'm cutting them some slack because they were definitely at their wit's end.
Their daughter was with an obviously abusive
man and the entire internet was worried over her.
Little did we know at the time, she was just as, if not more, manipulative than Jonny was.>>684142
manipulating situations that happened so long ago. About Bree, and Chelsea.
Chelsea is not 100% responsible for her not being able to get out of the relationship. As other anons have said, she has had so many opportunities, every time he went away on tour everyone speculated it would be the time she finally got out, but nope. It took her fucking almost dying on heroin to get away from him.
She deserves everything that has come to her.
Tinfoil but I think she relapsed, she spergs out about everything constantly when she's on drugs.
I also understand where her parents are coming from but you don't air out dirty laundry with randos on the internet.
Taylor is mentally ill, that's obvious. But It was their responsibility as parents to address it, threatening to take the animals away was just stupid. That probably singlehandedly drove her over the edge. Taylor was hellbent on dating jonny and experimenting with drugs, and there's not alot they could've done to prevent them from dating.
They should've just left the door open to come back home, and keep in contact, they should've known Taylor would figure out jonny was trash eventually. Then they could've helped her escape. Not trying to WK but they handled the situation poorly.
Everyone is at fault here, but her parents had their door open. They were there for her. She blocked them, refused to talk to them and Jen had to do a complete turn around and pretend to LIKE Jonny just so Taylor would TALK to her again. That's how far gone Taylor was.
Taylor didn't want to "escape". She had support from friends and family and guess what, it took Betsy going to her mom and revealing just how serious her drug use had gotten for her parents to go over to her house, kick JC out and get her into rehab. If it weren't for Betsy and Jen, Taylor would still be on heroin, still with Jonny and still in that atrium house.
Her parents are fucking batshit, but holy shit is Taylor lucky they haven't disowned her. I couldn't imagine having this ungrateful cunt as my daughter. The fact that they've all made their family and personal issues public is pathetic and plays a huge role in all the problems they have. But honestly it looks like her dad has just had enough of her shit. He knows exactly how manipulative and selfish his daughter is. Jen does too with her passive aggressive comments about Taylor. No wonder her family is fucked.
When your dealing with junkies and mentally sick people you have to deal with their delusions. It isn't about being "right", obviously Taylor was in the wrong but if her parents did nothing she would've died.
I agree, Taylor is ungrateful and doesn't know how lucky she is but they don't want her to die.
Taylor needs to kick her unhealthy habits to the curb if she wants to stay alive, her family can't keep bailing her out forever.
The problem is Taylor's inflated ego because of pettube fame.
All that money and fame probably made her feel untouchable and invincible. It exacerbated her recklessness and enabled her to fund her addictions.
To a degree, I think Taylor is aware she has a problem. She's super concerned with fitting in. All these tattoos, drugs, animals are just ways she's trying to fit in with the "cool kids". She's deeply insecure and the only way she'll get better is if she changes it. If she's unhappy with her body she should work out, If she's unhappy with her animal care she should take steps to improve, ect.
I guess Papa Dean thought if he created enough backlash from others on the internet towards Tay, she would snap out of her path to self destruction. Since she wasn’t listening to them and was social media obsessed and now “internet famous” he assumed taking a hit to her platform would get her to wisen up (When he said don’t share the DMs, thus exposing himself, but urged the drama accounts to spread the narrative that Taylor was being a manipulative bitch) As we can all see that didn’t work. I can see how insane it must have been for a bunch of normies to suddenly have a clout hungry daughter running away doing drugs with the shittiest “rockstar” in the entire world, cutting off contact and putting you on blast to her huge audience. I don’t know what I would have done in that situation. Her life was also at risk between the H and Jonny throwing her out of cars apparently. But Tay was old enough to ruin her own life if she wanted to, as she is still excellent at doing.
It’s such a clusterfuck. Her own dad was trying to secretly get the Interwebs to cancel her. All three Deans are so fucked they all just need to get off the internet and get their lives together or else their shitstorm is gonna keep giving us milk for days. Good job on publicly destroying your family guys.
No dipshit, her parents publically air their dirty laundry to internet strangers.
Any decent parent does not do that. They are attention whores and you're fucking retarded.
Probably still asleep tbh. Probably sleeping in after a hard night of twitter spergs.
The way she lives isn't healthy, too many animals, junk food, stays inside all the time, doesn't exercise, prescription opiates, shit sleep shedule, reckless spending, junkie "friends" that buy her guns, felon BF.
Her life is a mess rn, I don't understand how she thinks she can take care of animals. Hell, she isn't even looking after HER animals. She's going broke and she sure as hell doesn't have enough money to buy houses in Austin.
Yt is going to shit, slowly but surely and she's becoming increasingly irrelevant. Nobody is going to care about her drug addiction story, they were only there for the animals.
You can't go to jail for owing taxes in the U.S. The IRS CAN but you in jail for fraud.
Taylor's finances are a mess, anons a few months back estimated she spent 300k or so last year on rent, animals, and frivolous expenses. That isn't including back taxes which we don't know for sure, or how much. I'll see if I can dig it up.
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Hey, it’s the anon here who “sperged out” with all the clues. I didn’t post this because I don’t know if it counts as doxxing, but since there’s many people like our friend above who still refuse to believe ample evidence that cosmixhoney is turtlemom and won’t drop it, enjoy your final evidence. If someone lets me know this is a violation soon enough, I will gladly delete.
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Spill the milk Bree!
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We just found out that Taylor's own father
has been feeding info to numerous
tea accounts for 2 years & you're still
on this shit???
Heck, Taylor doesn't even need a job. She just needs to build some self discipline and boundaries.
She still has an audience of over 1mil people she could still turn it around and never have to work a normie job again. Too bad she's squandering the opportunity by dicking down and wasting her time buying guns.
I do agree that her sober living is a joke tho. They are clearly enabling her bad habits allowing snakes and getting her on bupe. I wouldn't trust "friends" made a sober living. They may not be bad people but they probably come with their own issues and are just going to drag her down.
With her YT fame she really could've been someone that changed the shitty pet industry. So much wasted potential.
In all fairness she has basically shit talked her dad already. She probably knows that stuff has been said simply because Jen was aware of his correspondence with turtle person and wanted it to stop.
I feel like a lot of the time this thread thinks very white and dark and cannot possibly realise that people can make grey decisions.>>684197
She's doing the same thing we are doing but with undoubtedly better access to the Deans and their opinions, family dynamics and whatever the fuck else. Doesn't mean the entire thread has to be derailed for this one person.
Also, I reckon if Taylor is still in sober living she will post pictures of that one dog.
They can sue whoever they want. It will be a massive waste of money because they have no case and it will be thrown out in court.
Bree is the only person with a case here. She could easily sue Taylor for defamation, she doesn't even need to prove damages because sexual assault allegations fall under defamation per se and are already deemed to be damaging.
Bree if you still read here you really should be opening a defamation case against Taylor. She's made it obvious she won't stop defaming you so you need the law to tell her to shut the fuck up.
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Shes up and posting and people are already coming at her.
Thanks anon. I hope even the last idiot here now got
that Angel is turtlemom.>>684196
Geez. Because she tried her hardest to get into Taylor's drama and she finally made it.
Taylor and her stans are calling her out and now she's crying, while Angel's deleting evidence she's turtlemom. Come on Angel and drop that supa sekrit infos you got on Taylor
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Screen shots can be faked. I want her to admit who she is. Then ill believe. But hey lets get back on topic look sleeping beauty is up and eating like shit.
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Nah Taylor, don’t see that little girl hoarding and killing animals she is showing them genuine love not exploiting them like you do.
But keep on dreaming.
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Still in peak condition? Really Taylor?
Sounds like someone had an extra dose of delusion along with the mochi
>guy's protein bars are offensive to people with eating disorders
> Tee hee I'm eating cake for "breakfast"
And she wonders why she's depressed/feels like shit all the time. If she can't take care of herself how can she expect us to believe she'll take care of her animal? She's like one of those feeder people that just enjoys watching their pets get fat cause it makes them feel good feeding.
"Still in peak condition"
Your hedgehog had mange, Taylor. That's not "still in peak condition" - that's you coming up with excuses so you can try to salvage the bare minimum or feed into your martyr complex when you blame someone else after you abandoned them for who knows how long.
I feel like she's just using this to set the stage for more animals, what better way to get the haturz off her back than through proving all of her animals are the friendliest/healthiest around (ignore the social issues). Hoarding is vital to her recovery, after all.
Peak condition? FFS
She's shorting her snakes lifespans by overfeeding. Not only are they overweight, they are also fed meals too large. If she's gonna feed WEEKLY at least feed smaller. The Tub shit is just disgusting, unclean, no water, no light, no enrichment. If she isn't breeding there's no reason for them to be in tubs.
Just because you take your animals to the vet doesn't make them healthy. Exotic vets vary wildly and the good ones are not cheap.
I agree with anon above. She's not gonna stop with the animals. Just like the funkos, wigs, outfits, makeup it's gonna be thrown in a closet and ignored. She's got a serious problem with buying shit, she's trying to compensate for what an empty vain life she has.
Honestly, it's not very logical to take your pets to a vet if they seem perfectly fine, unless you have reasons to suspect there might be an underlying condition. Either 1)they aren't fine, or a few aren't and she is taking ALL of them to make it seem like a routine visit.
Or/and 2) She is taking them so if it comes out something happened in the near future she can be like THE VET SAID THEY WERE PERFECT. She's trying to cover her own ass incase there's evidence of neglect. Reminds me of what some vendors at reptile conventions will do. Get a very to do a quick look over incase a recent buyer tries to claim their animal died.
Also like I know exotics vets can vary in their expertise but I doubt they are running any tests…
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This one has been deleted already it seems.
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bruh, I couldn't give a flying fuck if turtlemom was some fat bitch or other. idk why you're acting like you vagueposting about clues without screenshots was evidence though. get your head out of your ass, anyone can make anything up here.
angel is genuinely fucked in the head tho if she's giving out clues and playing mind games with random people in the DMs. bitch wanted to get caught. what a cow. >>684220
pic related, looks like she's sticking to her story. >>684249>>684250
could be she picks and chooses vets who tell her what she wants to hear.
For all the photos and videos she's posting of just being at a fucking vet NOW, you'd think her pets have never
been to a vet before.
Funny that all those times that people were begging her for proof that her pets were okay and begging to see their enclosures or have another pet tour and such she would not do it. Now she suddenly has no problem posting about it.
God knows how bad those animals had it while she was on drugs.
I agree, this sounds like she's lying. The vet is an idiot, he's got it backwards, she needs to go down because his body is too big for his head. Feeding will not increase the size of his head, it will go to the body as fat.>>684250
The fact that she deleted this so quickly pretty much confirms that she's lying. She also hasn't fed her snakes for months what is she on about?
This. Taylor said the vet said her rats were the most amazing and perfect socialized rats ever and then posted a video where the vet is talking about fixing their "social issues"
Taylor will lie no matter what. Doesn't matter if the evidence is right there shes lying.
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Turns out the vet ACTUALLY told her to feed less considering she fed them weekly.
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Jen was added to a group chat I'm in and is sperging super fucking hard.
AND THAT SHE GOT KICKED OUT SHE DIDN'T LEAVE BY CHOICE
Sorry for samefagging, missed that nugget the first time.
Finally some truth.
Taylor got kicked out of the first sober living.
Jake was indeed mooching off her.
She hasn't had seven hours of counseling since she got kicked in the first place.
Does this mean she relapsed during all those sporadic posting she did?
Taylor is awful but it's pretty easy to see how she got that way. All of the other addicts are terrible but not her poor sweet daughter? She's actually one of them now Jen, hate to break it to you.
Really makes you wonder why she was kicked out…
If he was using her for money it was probably for drugs. There was already speculation that one of her friends that relapsed was him.
It could also be because she brought in 2 snakes (1 super aggressive) when they aren't allowed.
I kinda wonder if she mispoke and didnt get literally kicked but left bc of the supposed 'doxxing'? But maybe that's just my inner Taylor stan.
Way more likely bc of the calls and gun imo. So many people in sober living are going to be on probation and not allowed in a residence with firearms. She's just a privileged dumbass that doesn't take anyone into consideration.
If being a parent gave people insight into what good parenting looks like then there would be a lot fewer shitty parents out there. Shit-talking and gossiping about your child to complete strangers on social media is terrible parenting and trashy as fuck, sorry.>>684147>This is probably why they went so public on twitter (there might even be tweets of them saying this) because pretty sure they were pleading for people to get to their daughter.
…messaging random strangers horrible shit about your kid is not even remotely the appropriate way to handle your kid refusing to talk to you for a few days. Are you out of your goddamn mind?
What is this trailer park shit that people are defending? Taylor is fucked up because she was raised by fucked up parents; defending or sympathizing with their behavior makes you guys seem like troll-shielding cows yourselves.>>684253
Imagine making yourself into a martyr over gossiping about a garden variety online attention-whore. How embarrassing >>684316
The social media shit could have been a reason she was kicked out, but then again there are a million different things it could have been. My bet is that it was a combination of factors that eventually lead the house to no longer want to put up with her and her baggage.
holy shit this is glorious! to see her delicate web of lies smashed, and by her own mother no less.>she is back living with us
this has to be recent. she was posting pics from inside a sober living five days ago >>682674
. wonder if she's got any pics saved up so she can 'prove' that she's still there.>her sober living was no longer safe for her
wtf does that even mean
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“Heroin please, shaken, not stirred.”
what a time to be alive, between chelsea finally calling her out for all her lies and her dad calling her a master manipulator, it's more milk than i can handle
this fucking useless bitch
p.s. no one cares about cosmicturtle or who the fuck ever
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Her mom said it wasn't her
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It annoys me to no end that we'll never know the full truth because all they do is fucking lie their entire life like it's normal
Is there a way to screen share a video that shows her Twitter handle?
Plz anon we need proof.
Mama dean is just as bad as Taylor but it does seem unlikely she'd spill anything.>>684380
So your saying mama dean is lying? Wouldn't surprise me given that they seem to talk shit behind each others back all the time.
Can you screen record yourself tapping on her icon to show it leads to her account please? This could be any random account with her picture slapped on it.
Since she denies it, you may wanna prove it.
yes, and now, taylor is an ADULT. she is responsible for her own fuckery and idiocy. jen is a retard, but taylor is not a twelve year old. even if taylor were mentally ill, she is still CHOOSING to murder pets, accuse innocent people of sexual assault, use drugs, lie about all kinds of shit.
being nuts is no excuse to be an asshole and neither is having shitty parents.
Relapsing and lying is entirely relevant because it directly effects her animals that she's already neglecting and not taking care of.
She doesn't have to read here, neither do her parents! Her Stans that are lurking here and notifying Taylor of everything said here are probably the ones stressing her out because aside from that, info usually stays within this thread and would go entirely unnoticed by her, her family and Stans.
It's a gossip forum it's what it's for, if you don't wanna contribute feel free to leave.
Also, addicts always blame relapse on everything and anything but themselves but nobody here on lolcow is holding a gun to her head forcing her to shoot up. Besides she has a GenEtiC ADictIon! Shes BouNd to relapse! It's in her GENES!!!!
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Yet another deleted tweet, she really needs to stop telling people how to feed their animals when hers are clearly all far as fuck.
Deleted due to the backlash in the comments.
she's so ignorant, she's only been keeping snakes a year and yet she acts like shes an expert.
It's better for snakes to eat smaller meals than larger ones. They aren't eating rats in the wild that's for sure. We do it because it's convenient not because it's ideal.
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she just tweeted this and confirmed Gemini’s eyes are blue (if you zoom in on the first photo they look it) so why is she messing with him?
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samefag but she put it on Instagram too. I wonder if the caption includes Jake?
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I’m the anon who posted Papa Dean’s messages. They’re real. I screen recorded a video to prove it, but this message pops up when I try to upload it.
“I give him a few more fats”
Freudian slip. lmao
God, this is so glaringly fake. Can you all try not to let your desperation for milk cloud your judgment so much?
inb4 “hi Taylor!!1!!1”
thank you for recording a screen capture, anon! to upload here you will have to convert to webm. you can try this:https://video.online-convert.com/convert-to-webm
see also this post from last thread, which includes a few other conversion sites if the above one isn't working for you:>>>/pt/683180
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How can you look at mushu and think this is okay
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Healthy axolotl for reference
the gun was the 2nd sober living.
she had plenty of reasons to get kicked out of the 1st: filming the shared bedroom, getting two pets against house rules, fucking off to a hotel with relapsed residents, plus all the stuff we don't know like if she failed a screening test or broke house rules in other ways.
But at this point we dont know if she has been kicked from either first or 2nd Sober living.
I also speculate that the first place the anon identified (Hartford house?) was actually where Jake was staying, but not her. Not like that has really ever mattered tbh.
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thank you anon! i just downloaded and converted it to be reuploaded here.
Yep, it's all just one
person posting 'tea' /s
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Omg I forgot I had messages with cosmixangel too until anon posted the screenshot. I don’t know if her screenshots are real or not, but this is what she sent me.
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God even back then she was pulling the 'addictive personality' card
Also yikes, cosmicxhoney is creepy af
Yes yes we do!
Remember when her mom told everybody that tea channels were writing her husband but it was her husband actually writing people.
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I bet if it was to meet a dealer she wouldn't even cared about a driver driving an hour away. Lol is it to get her dose of medicine?
Don't axolotls thrive in filth? They're a model organism in life sciences research because they're so easy to keep (among other things). What do you even have to do to fuck up an axolotl? In at least some universities that do research on them they're kept in really dirty tanks with low water.>>684522>Yall are really stuck on an angelin the arms of an angel, fly away from here…>>684534
She needs to rehome the fucking cats, hedgehogs, and rats above all else. Reptiles and amphibians can hardly understand what is happening. The neglect of her mammals is the worst issue. Cats aren't as aloof as is thought and will be almost as heartbroken as a dog if they're abandoned for a few hours, let alone a few weeks.
That's actually a misconception axolotls need very clean cold water if you think about it axolotls in the wild have a huge Lake which they are now extinct in the wild because of toxic
water and contaminants. They are massive poop producers and that's why Taylor's looks the way it does because she does not care for it and do water changes and let their sausage poop explode and contaminate the water
Don't be dumb. She's 22 and had a car presumably with registered tags and insurance. All of which requires having a license. There's little reason for her not to.
But high on heroin driving? Yes. I guarantee you she was forced to surrender it.
omg anon take the tinfoil hat off.
she's done something with it, like surrender it as other anons have said. but all she'll say is she doesn't have it now.
She had a car for ages and only started using it during her relationship with Jonny. I'm pretty sure she has also said she doesn't like driving.
Anons are blowing it out of proportion tho lmao.
Unless she got into some legal trouble which I have seen nothing about in these threads she’d really have no reason to surrender her license
She might no longer have a car or it doesn’t work or she just doesn’t want to drive
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In early July she posted that she doesn't have her license (or didn't at that time) >>>/pt/677997
Are we going to get a screen recording of this? I don't believe it at all until we see actual proof like >>684485
shared. Way too suspicious of a milk drop.
I hope we get a screen recording but usually when they're faked, it's people taking a safe "route" with their fakes and saying things that are already known and not spergy.
Jen has a track record of lying already, and it's too close of a portrayal imo. Jen already posted Nemo with a random bible verse attached not too long ago. And what she is saying in the screenshot are very likely things that we didn't know that are probably true and everything lines up. >She is back living with us
True, because lately she has been taking all of her animals to the vet.>She hasn't been doing therapy for 7 hours
Also obviously true cause how would she have time for 7 hour therapy when she is sperging on twitter all day and night and taking animals to the vet>Jake is no longer with her
Also true because she hasn't mentioned him at all or posted any photos of him anymore>Can't ever trust those silly tea accounts
True, Jen, because you and your husband give us enough "tea" as it is
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Thx for the inspiration anon!
taylor is at home and using and her trashfire mom is being a trashfire.
i wonder what her father thinks of all this now? must be depressing to have a disabled kid and a retard daughter on top of that.
I mean, Google Maps says it takes around 80 minutes from her destination to the atrium house.
I honestly doubt she's getting an uber twice a day to drive that long and far, especially with her new "1.5 hours uber drive.. should I du it? It's so long"
How is she even getting to SA? I don't think she uses trains and I don't know if she has any friends who willingly drive her that long twice a day.
I think it's pretty plausible she got kicked out and is back home.
This stan is a dum dum. You shouldn't expect asspats for getting yourself addicted to heroin, if your so reliant on public support your never gonna stay sober. This person is a loser with nothing better to do.
If you don't like what someone is saying don't support them. There's freedom of speech in this country whether you like it or not.>>684691
This doesn't surprise me. Taylor is an asshole to her "friends". She's deliberately ignoring people who've "offended" her. She only wants to be friends with the "cool kids" who do coke and drug problems.
And Taylor wonders why she has no friends.
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When people finally started stepping in.
Also yes, this fan is
demanding 'proof' from Emma that she talked to Taylor when she was in a vulnerable state.
These 12yos just want in on the milk. I don't think they actually care about Taylor, they just like the energy of the drama.
There's no saving these people. They're gonna grow up to be little Taylors.
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Yikes, what a creep!
What these stans don't realize is that Taylor is a BAD PERSON who made BAD DECISIONS. If your gonna choose to do drugs, date abusers knowing their history, you gotta live with the consequences. Ignorance is not an excuse. Nobody is entitled to support, and life doesn't owe you shit.
If your gonna associate with drug addicts, you gotta realize most of them are assholes and most will fuck you over eventually. Taylor's lifestyle is shit, it almost killed her, hell it still might.
Too many naive middle-schoolers that have never left suburbia.
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They're just harassing the other Pettubers who coddled Taylor because they apparently didn't coddle her enough
to their liking.
i don't get it. are taylor and all her fans clinically retarded and don't know how to spell 'lolcow', are they trying to be QuIrKy by misspelling it, or do they just not want to put the full, actual name of the website so no one looks up taylor's thread and sees all of her incriminating bullshit?
it's anyone's guess at this point.
anyway, since they're lurking 'round, hiya, taytay's WKs! you guys are fucking creepy as shit!
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I think shes getting fed up. Thank god.
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I find it ironic the person who's harassing everyone and blocking everyone is the same one that retweeted this tweet by Taylor
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After apologizing to Tyler she continues to call him "fake pettuber who only care about their reputation"
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You… you know there are hackers & doxxers that lurk here, right?
Where the fuck are your parents?
I have so much secondhand embarrassment reading these.
What TND stans don't understand and clearly have not experienced yet is the fact that you can set boundaries and even end friendships at any time if you're uncomfortable with what your friend is doing. Taylor was using drugs, living with an abusive
creep, and consistently throwing her friends under the bus to save her ass or dragging them down with her. It's NORMAL that all of her pettube friends saw what she was engaging in and decided to take a step back. You can't ask people to continuously go out of their way to support someone who's happily on a path of destruction.
Taylor has been toxic
for years, you can't blame her friends for protecting themselves and putting themselves first by 'dropping' her.
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What’s with the eye
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Her lips look horrible in this. Like… not big filler horrible but just horrible in general. Also, are her eyebrows uneven?
I feel like she has started a lot of more stuff to 'bait' us recently lmao
well, if these pics are new, she's still in the sober living and >>684285
but WHY won't you drop everything you're going through right now to support QUEEN TAYLOR!!??11!! she has it soooo hard uwu /s
You know it's summer when all the kids have hours on end to wk for their junkie qween
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She's already been on Twitter
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Nah these were taken the exact same day as her thot leotard pics. Everything is exactly the same, down to the makeup, the beds, thr laptop, even the wrapper next to the bed on left. She was just playing dress up.
Plus her nails are way more outgrown now.
Pic for comparison.
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omg lol they were taken on the same day, literally the laptop cord is hanging over the edge of the bed exactly for both outfit shots. what a lying turd she is.
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I say again, this site is open to anyone
. Some people don't even post, they just lurk. >>684767
So Taylor's possibly getting her stans to bait themselves into getting doxxed here?
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Well, look who's back…
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What is her mother going on about???
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Same cut on leg too.
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You're not living in a movie. Please quit while you're ahead, because this kind of behavior might actually get you doxxed or even hurt.
Most of us here are ex fans who've had enough of her bullshit spreading ways.>>684779
Probably making excuses for her daughter's shit pet care tbh. I don't think her vists to the vet have gone as smoothly as she thought.
Her snakes are overweight and vet said to reduce feeding to monthly, 2 months. Rats have issues, hedgehog had mange. Cats overweight and underweight.>>684781>>684782
Best to just ignore these idiots, they're just kids acting out for attention. Not really milky imo.
Taylor's fans probably think they aren't "giving in to hate" or some shit like that. What they fail to realize is that once it's on the Internet, it's there forever. I don't want these people to be doxxed, that's awful but there are some farmers who do exactly that and if these fans bait them… well, they are gonna deliver. They really need to stop while they're ahead.
It's really not that hard to keep yourself safe on the Internet, yet they are really going to throw that all away for a junkie hoarder.
I don't think Taylor really even likes her audience, just the attention they give her. I don't think she cares what they're doing good or bad. Seems to me like she's ditched the whole family friendly pet mom crap.
She's trying to shift her audience but there isn't a pettube equivalent for druggies. She's gonna find there's no money and then she'll be scamming pre-teens through go fund me or something.
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This has aged like a fine wine
yup same, I have her address and fathers name and number up as well with 5 minutes of looking.
Stop white knighting someone who does not care about you, she just wants an audience for her narcissism.
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Looks like it scared her enough.
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I can't even imagine letting subscribers and your followers harass everybody with a Witch Hunt and then they delete their page. Not everyone that posts here doxxs.
This is appalling and the internet is forever.
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I guess they got the message?
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This chick straight up deleted her whole twitter just now…
Stfu about these stans, you're playing games with 13yos and making them feel special. Ignore all of them at all times.
Taylor posting the flashback pics from the dorm she was in for a minute (plus the question about the 90min uber) cements it for me, that was really Jen in that group chat and Taylor is back home.
Agreed, she 100% is not there anymore and that multi-outfit fashion shoot she did really proves it>>684763>>684780
Nice detective work, anons
Taylor also saved animal pics to post later when she first when to the atrium house.
Not enough info to confirm SS tho.
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Saw dis coming
The Stans are fangirling hard
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Just cows bein cows
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flashback to the mama dean "wasn't me in the chat" "but I only said one thing" moment.>>669921>>670003>>670222>>670266>>670415
Yeah she's most definitely not in sober living…. does this mean when she started posting that fan and her morning in that bed at the old sober living was she kicked out then>>681852
( I don't think it's this one but remember she posted a video of her waking up and showing her room around there was a Newport cigarette art on the wall art on the wall)
Pure tinfoil/speculation. My guess is she got kicked out of the first sober living. Could have been one of many things such as breaking house rules, doxxing herself, fucking off to hotels with other junkies, not doing house chores or other responsibilities like attending therapy, the snakes. I can't remember when she got the gun but she could have also been kicked out for that.
Of course nothing is Taylor's fault so it's the the mean people on the Internet. Move to sober house 2 with the dog. By now I'm pretty sure Jen is freaking out on her with the gun, the "brofriend", moving because of doxxing, etc. I wouldn't be surprised if Mama Dean asked Taylor to move back home. It makes me think the post in the group chat is real, but more proof is needed.
The only thing stopping Taylor from moving back in with her parents and sorting her shit out is her own pride. Plus her parents would likely require her to downgrade (hell, she claims to have done that already) because when she previously lived at home their rule was all her animals had to stay in her room. Yet some tanks were starting to already break that rule. I think she had a tank in the kitchen and living room but a majority of the pets were in her bedroom.
whatever she got kicked out of 1st sober living for, it wasn't the gun. she was in the hotel a few days and at the 2nd sober living before the gun appeared. seems like:
1st sober living, kicked out
hotel stint and househunt, at least a few days
2nd sober living and gun, "left" there now
home with parents, posting old selfies from brief stint at 2nd sober living
Actually last thread someone did comment that she should OD.
Also, tinfoil but I've had feelings for a long time that GoHerping posts here
ah no anon sorry to give off that impression, I was reacting to the many posts of the stan in question, posted by other anons. I was making fun of the fact that she changed her Twitter name clearly in direct reference to / addressing us here.
Sorry for non contribution I guess in both that post and this one. As an aside do you think this rando stan would have known to have saged their post (my last post)?(derailing)
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Major tinfoil below
Maybe Taylor looked as she is the Yoko Ono. That's what it seems like to me. With her out the way now H boy can be back in the band. What if he was clean and then met taylor and relapsed? What if Taylor used him for his connections and to shoot her up? Hes been awfully quiet … Maybe he's letting taylor shoot her own foot with the shit shes pulling.what what does he gain for being hush hush ?? Did Taylor put him up to trashing his exes? How do we know it was him actually texting them on the burner number? what if it was taylor? Her parents call her the master manipulator. Taylor makes it known the world revolves around her. Would she be like that devious?
He was never clean. Maybe for a week or two between leaving his ex and moving in with Taylor, but he was falling-down-drunk the first time he met Mama+Papa Dean. He is a shithead rapist user. This is an unnecessary tinfoil, Colin never seemed to have a problem with Jonny being an abusive
asshole, only when his addiction got in the way of the band's success.
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Just cause it hasn’t been posted. Looks like Jonny’s been getting too fucked up to do the only thing he’s getting money for
17? What in the fuck?
and literally just now the stream has been pushed to 4pm. lol. >>684966
you again? in one of the previous threads there was someone insisting that taylor cant be blamed because she was a minor dating an adult, when taylor was 20 years old when they started dating. can you please leave.
He was definitely not clean for more than maybe a couple of days at a time. And she didn't put him up to trashing his exs, he's been doing that way before he met Taylor.
Yes Taylor sucks and is manipulative and doesn't take care of her animals properly. But that doesn't make Jonny good by default. Hes a shitty junkie loser with a history of scamming people and abusing and harassing his exs, getting kicked out of bands, getting kicked off of tours and festivals due to his inappropriate behavior.
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Wonder if these vague posts are about Jake
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So she admits mushu's cage was too warm. Sounds like the lotl was in rough shape before, you shouldn't have gills growing back if you've been taking good care of it for 4 years.
I'd honestly love to see her admit anything clearly because that's the best lesson any pet owner could ever get - admitting to your mistakes is okay.
But no homegirl Taylor can't admit to anything clearly or admit she fucked up otherwise.
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Can't blame her for using them when she's miserable with life because her daughter being an insane mirror of herself. (Screenshot of deleted snake at vet video)
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Kek how honest.
But made just for going viral for sure.
She's miserable with life because she's obese, probably has health problems, stuck with her disabled son 24/7, dealing with pets she didn't want, stuck with Taylor's drama, jealous of daughter's looks, fame and attention, husband spilling milk to randos.
The Dean family is a mess. This is what Taylor is gonna look like in 10 years.
yeah sure, let us just take your word on that with zero evidence. /s
post pics or gtfo.
there's a high chance mama dean really posted in that chat.
I'd like proof but if we are tinfoiling…
Last anon claimed Jen said TND was at home, this was seemingly confirmed by pic reposting.
TND was talking about a 90 minute Uber trip right before this unconfirmed milk.
It could happen…
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> "She made fake conversations of my mom saying horrible things, told my mom she can't take care of my disabled brother, etc."
…Taylor, Mama Dean, I got news for you, that wasn't
(Sage for Old Milk in the Screenshots)
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…Now it makes me wonder if those DMs from Mama Dean were actually real
(Again, sage for old milk)
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Hey Mama Dean. Next time don't make it so obvious that you're online and commenting on this thread. It's like 12 over there go to bed.
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Well it looks like Taylor doesn't really give a shit that her underage Fans keep hounding this site with their stupid attempts at… Well I don't even know what their goal is, to make themselves a victim for pity points? Don't complain about being doxxed or getting info dug up on you if you're going to stir the pot with a site like this. Youre just making yourself look insanely dumb.
Taylor, stop using your dumb, unintelligible, underage fan base to get the big bad bullies for you so that your vanity and ego can be filled and make your itty bitty feelings feel better about yourself. Her fans are so dumb they can't even see that Taylor's using them.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
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This is just sad.
Taylor should have told her fans to stop trying to take the bullet for her ages
Life isn't a movie, kids.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
tHey trIed DoxxEd Me FOr SpEakiNg Up!
You mean acting like a tweenie with half a brain cell? You did nothing but shit talk.
I really hope she did rehome them, she mostly needs to rehome those poor rats, the cats and pretty much every animal she has. That way she can go lead her free spirit life where felons and substances are of most importance to her.
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this is sending me(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
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I wonder if this is about Jonny, momma Dean, papa Dean or Jake or if Taylor is just hungry for some attention.
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If you're getting info from here and blasting it on her posts, could you fucking not?
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why does she have to call them ratties that’s so tacky lmao>>685138
it’s funny cause she’s gonna try to say they’re fake but they’re 1000% real
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Lmao i cant even we heard the vet!
Just work on their social issues.
You said yep.
How delusioned does one have to be.
weird nitpick, heaps of people who have rats call them ratties…
it's funny because she legit has a video of the vet saying to work on their social issues. also no vet is obsessed, taylor. they are there to do a job, not fawn over your feeder breeder rats. also you didn't teach them anything, any praise goes to the breeder for you know… breeding them that way? not you. it's like she thinks no one else goes to a vet and knows how vets work.
Massive tinfoil but I wonder if Taylor is seeing this as a way to get some publicity. All that needs to happen is a drama channel (unlikely) picking up on this and she will get some attention.
Or perhaps she just wants people to go looking for lolcow. Even we are some sort of attention for her.
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She’s definitely aware of the messages now because of this idiot.
Just another cowtipping troll. This doesn't even solve any problems, ofc she saw the texts, you can show cows cow behavior but they still won't change. It only reinforces the idea that the internet is out to "get her".
Taylor KNOWS her parents are whack, she also KNOWS she's going broke and has no one else to turn to. Deep down she KNOWS her animals are neglected but she won't confront those feeling because they make her uncomfortable.
Really interested in seeing what happens with her "comeback" video. You can't be a badass bitch and a victim
at the same time.
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LOL dont hold your breath(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
Stop fucking posting about this stupid fake accounts
They are not relevant and nobody gives a shit about it.
And dont start with “you are minimodding” they already said that is deraling.
Um, did Taylor just delete & re-upload the video with that last bit cut out?
Anyone have the video from the original
Here u go Anon
Very clearly says they have social issues>>685237
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Seems like the fake show he put on is now coming to an end. Welcome back Jonny, you absolute trash heap
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This is all I will say.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
looooool big talk for someone who privated her account because she was scurred of the big bad meanies on lc>>685133
What is it with people and thinking we're all a singular person? Do you know what an ANONYMOUS message board means?
might be the same person that posted >>685073
but i think it's someone fishing for attention by teasing possible milk
If you're gonna post SS you also need to include a video/gif of you clicking through to their profile. Or else you are just wasting your time.
I wouldn't be surprised if Taylor does have a group going with her stans for extra validation and asspats. Probably encouraging them to post fake shit here now. Try harder next time ty
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Not particularly milky but clarifies some things.
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Can confirm Taylor is in a group chat with a bunch of her fans. Has been for a long time now
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New cat incoming
>>685298>Why would she even bother putting stuff in this group chat
because she's dumb as bricks, literally subzero iq.
the group chat isn't even news though iirc? I swear it's been mentioned in previous threads.
She's bored of her cats already just like the other animals she "rehomed". She'll love and cuddle them when they're small and cute and then ignore them when they get big.
Wouldn't surprise me if she gets back to her hoarding habits hard in her new place. She's running out of ideas on YT and she needs new content more than ever.
And? That alone isn’t milky. Lots of internet famous people are in group chats with fans. Gabby Hanna had a stalker in one and a GBC fan group chat was how lil peep got the cab hookup that killed him.
Unless you want to drop some proof she admitted to relapsing in one then it doesn’t really matter
I work at a Petco and it's against company policy for an employee to open the cat cages without express permission from the shelter. You also must have all animals leashed, including cats, and we have store use leashes we have to give to people without leashes of their own, so I doubt it's someone's pet.
That's not to say no one ever breaks these policies, obviously, but these are the rules.
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Great place for her animals to be! Cruel cunt
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taylor is never wrong
these are her first rats, she's owned them for what… 8 months maybe? she doesn't know anything about rats. she didn't even know to cover the bars of their cage. she feeds them an appalling diet, even saying she doesn't think a fully-balanced nutritional rat food block isn't enough nutritionally in that feeding all my pets video. then she proceeds to fill a huge bowl full of vegetation and mealworms… like get off your high horse. she couldn't even sex the rats properly when she first decided to keep goose (and yes, he was old enough to be sexed).
so let's see. crap knowledge on housing and diet, i'm going to bet she also doesn't know rats and their body language either.
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Wait, is she actually staying at her parents? It's pretty late there.
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Am I the only one who finds this icon…strange?
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Maybe like idk post a screenshot of the tweet?>>685350
I googled it and it seems Twitter is making tests with new icons.
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I used to work at a sober living facility and our policy was that clients could not have overnights until they reached a certain level of the program. You would earn passes based off your level, which could take 6 months plus. Didn’t she just move into this new sober living like a week ago? Clearly she’s lurking and is scrambling to come up with an excuse as to why she’s at her parents house before she’s called out on it,
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fuller pic for context.
at least they're free of the atrium house now.
The vet says "and they just take care of their social issues"
Not to WK but I'm entirely convinced he is talking about her rats.
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I think you're right she's trying to cover up. I'm also taking her mother's tweet into consideration from recently about relapsing being part of the process. I think I posted that in the last thread somewhere. It makes no sense for her to get this freedom when she's been there so shortly.
It's so cringe how she's making a big deal out of doing the right thing and staying with her animals. Any normal person would do that. She's acting like she is cute and quirky for wanting to be with her pets. Especially since her priority has been with "getting dicked down" before this, she needs to shut the fuck up. Sad reality is, she probably just got kicked the fuck out for making others relapse with her bullshit and not sticking to the rules in general. She's pathetic and disgusting in so many ways.>>685339
You're right on the body language thing. When she first posted a video of one of her female rats laying in her hand, people pointed out to her that she was bruxing and boggling, next moment she started tweeting about how they were doing that. She had no idea until people pointed it out, and once they did she pretend she knew all along and as if she was educating people on it. She also posted this on Instagram AFTER she learnt it through others doing that.
>kicked the fuck out for making others relapse
A tenet of recovery, especially the 12 step variety: Everyone is responsible for their own recovery.>>685427
New house keys?
I did a quick search and it does look like there is one sober living home in Austin that allows MAT/suboxone use. The others don't seem to? Or at least it isn't listed on their website if it is.
I still think she is living at home. Regardless, NO sober living is going to allow you a pass when you've only been there for a week or so. It just isn't happening.
100% this. rats will brux and boggle when happy, but will also do it when stressed so it entirely depends on the situation.
taylor thinks she's an expert on every animal she owns, despite not owning them long and not doing diligent research. then when she's called out, people correct her or offer advice she acts as if she knew this all along to spin the narrative that actually, she's the expert and she's going to educate you now despite evidence saying otherwise.
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What is going on..
I feel like it's got something to do with Jonny coming back to get his stuff before they move or something.
Or BrOfrIend hurt her feelings.
Inb4 she becomes a hardcore man hating feminazi who uses feminism as a sheild to shit on men and be completely unfair and sexist toward them because SHE made the choice to date KNOWN trash.
What do you expect when you knowingly date a rapist druggie and fuck strangers who are felons?
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These things are really starting to make me think the screenshot of mama Dean was not fake from >>684285
and her denial is to avoid drama within her home since Taylor lives there now.
>>685629>all the pets being moved to her parents' house even though Tay said she was finding her own apartment to """work""" from during the day>Taylor hinting that Jake is gone>posting old selfies in different outfits to pretend they were taken days apart, quickly proved to be same-day>tweeting about waking up well after 12p and eating shit for breakfast, her being at home with her cats all day even though she's supposedly still going to therapy all day and living in a facility
not saying the message was real, but the stuff that >>684285
said is looking mostly accurate at this point. could just be a really good guess on an anon, or Mama Dean really was sperging to strangers just like her husband.
she did take selfies at the new sober living though, it was clearly dorm style and not her home bedroom, so I think it was more a case that she was at the owner's personal house for those photos, or something like that. the owner of the place spent time with her initially and took her to target etc. taylor isn't really that crafty. she definitely had the 2nd sober living. I just want to know if she got booted from the 2nd one as well.>>685594
be honest kek
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Trying to get some of the tana wedding attention.
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Kek her stans know her own snakes better
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And then she pretends she knew all along.
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ANIMALS ARE NOT PROPS.
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Looks like she's still at her parents house, hows she gonna spin this one.
and now that she posted herself holding that kitten at >>685299
with her fake nails popped off, any sober living pics she post will be easy to spot as old.
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Ghost is right here.
I feel so bad for her cats being stuck in a tiny bedroom all day. This is waiting for fights to happen. This is not ok for 3 cats to be in. And I highly doubt she gives them proper stimulation through play. >>685718
If she really was out drinking the other night like one anon said, she already fucked up because she also said she can't drink so.
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It must suck to have a mom that is always competing with you/jealous of you. Not to mention both parents spilling dirt on her to anyone that will listen. BUT she could always block them on social media and tell them she just doesn't want to follow family online. Yet we know she luvs the dramz and speculation and reads here so she would see it all anyway.
Onto the animals I really don't think that living in san antonio is seen as a risk for her since jonny can't even afford to get his shit and had to beg for (probable drug) money and she seems to have since realized that it's super easy to get drugs anywhere if you want them enough. She should just get an actually affordable house that will let her have the pets, granted wanting a zoo and not going against most leases will probably mean buying a house I can't imagine she doesn't know where she wants to live in San Antonio. She needs to make her own "home base" that isn't her parent's house but I guess that would be the adult thing to do
>>685767>70k drug addiction>50k Jonny Teeth>24k 6 months rent
144k wasted that could've bought a new house. Oof
There's absolutely no info online about "retard" being used in the show, whatsoever. >>685755
Can we now stop trying to debunk the Jen messages? Taylor's 100% living at home, Jake's obviously out and that she got kicked out doesn't seem unrealistic at all. She wants her pets and keeps a very aggressive snake, she wants to fuck at hotels, she doxxes herself, she glamourizes heroin and possible made multiple people relapse.
>>685778>Can we now stop trying to debunk the Jen messages
I get where you're coming from, but this thread has seen multiple anons claiming shit/dropping fake screenshots in the last few weeks so unless there's actual evidence I feel like we shouldn't take those at face value still
sage for opinion, not meant as an infighting attempt
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This from an old thread and make me kek since she’s talking about NOT wanting to make her drug addiction all about her identity and NOT wanting to air it all out to her young audience… fast forward to all the tattoos, tweets, etc less than 6mos later!
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She also took her pinned tweet (30 day difference) down.
Yea pretty sure she fucked up her body doing drugs, shocker: heroin is bad for you.>>685792> dealing with the guilt and shame of her own choices
This. Taylor straight up doesn't want to deal with the consequences of her actions. It's why she's rationalizing she's always had shaky hands, It's obvious she didn't before. This girl is straight up loony.>>685830
I think the whole hotel episode was her relapsing. She had to find another place because the first one kicked her out. The second place probably wasn't much better and she figured she'd just get help on her own. I'm guessing she went to a private doctor for the bupes and couldn't handle the chores and wake up hours.
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I love how she parrots words we know you're uneducated. At least give it a few days and then try out using a new word.
The police incident was something that occurred when Taylor was first meeting up with JC. Her mom had a periscope stream and recalled her version of events chronologically, including a dramatic episode where Taylor snuck out of the house to meet JC in secret at a nearby hotel.
Mom followed Tay to hotel, asked desk clerk if they had seen JC (showing a picture of him), clerk said he had come in wasted with some young girl and was being really aggressive with her. The cops get called, Taylor flees back home, and apparently once the police showed up at her house she started laying on the ground screaming “let me go!!” claiming her father was hurting her. Her dad ended up getting investigated, Taylor said everything was fine with JC, and the police ultimately couldn’t do anything. This was right before they moved in together.
Fastforward to >>684036
which are confirmed DMs from Taylor’s dad.
It’s absolutely baffling to me that he’d say this to a stranger, but it lines up with things mom said in stream. Taylor has a problem with lying and embellishing the truth, attention seeking, and impulsivity that seemed to get increasingly worse when her YT stardom kicked off and progressed along with her addiction/relationship. We all know this already, ofc, and Tay herself admitted to some of it in her “my mistakes” video. Confirmation from family gives a LOT of context to her behavior and further proof of how mentally NOT OK she truly is.
I think it’s obvious the whole family needs to get off the fucking internet and attend some goddamn group therapy. Seriously.
If her/her parents actually lurk here, all of y’all need to sit down and do some intensive ass therapy together to fix what is broken within this family dynamic you all have put out for all to see unfold on the Internet.
I feel like this drama could be coming close to some sort of resolution but Taylor would have to come clean about everything to free herself from this web of lies she’s constructed and start over. Posts like >>685823
seems like an indication she wants to. But: twitter is not therapy, youtube is not therapy, animals are not therapy. Commit to stay away from fellow addicts/triggering
situations. She’s clearly very unhappy with her life, her choices, and hardcore floundering but still living in denial which is within a moment’s reach thanks to her audience.
Thanks for the clarification anon. I knew everything but the fact that she was claiming her dad was abusing her when the police came. I completely agree. The whole family dynamic is very toxic
and not conducive to recovery and mental stability. It’s funny because family support is ~usually so integral post-recovery but in this case, it’s only toxic
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Still at home
Thank you for this!! You are the MVP. I kinda feel bad about mama dean on this video. But then her other actions are a total 180.>>685854
So shes not in her sober living home. And suprise no video.whos actually believing this sob story?
she shouldn't have posted this. if she's moved her least friendly snake to her parents' house, that must mean she's moved ALL her snakes to her parents' house. she's just confirming that she's moved back in with them.
I bet the tweet about needing to uber "a 90 minute ride" a few days ago was about her returning to the atrium house to meet a truck to move all her animals out.
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The fact she's slowly setting the narrative of why she "will be" back at home, and her recent man hating posts presetting the narrative of where jakeypoo went, she's definitely already living back home and gotten rid of the bro.
Why can't she ever just be straight up? She lies about things she doesn't even need to lie about.
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yes cos the drug you did is what we wanna be huffy about
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she does it for cool druggie points… I saw her fucking posts on a lot of recovery meme sites. apparently it's a thing. good ol taylor tries to milk the same joke twice, just like she tried to replicate her Nala internet fame with cheese but then killed him cause she doesn't give a fuck about animals but only about going viral
AKA I've already been outed since I moved back home, but I'm going to pretend move-in to make it look like it was my decision.
She isn't fooling anybody.
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Here we are again, blaming everything on jonny. just admit you bought the damn bag and you like flexing it because it makes you feel iMpORtANt
okay, so what's her excuse for still having the bed? she went back and edited all her photo descriptions with aBuSiVe
eX but couldn't get rid of the bag? you know what normal people do after breakups? get rid of shit from their ex. pictures turned over, things put in boxes or thrown away.
she hates the brand and is an animal advocate and is away from the person who forced it on her by unspoken threat of "lashing out" –AGAIN, WHAT IS THE EXCUSE FOR STILL TOTING THE BAG?
can she ever tell the truth
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Makes fun of something that is of worthy concern but go ahead and sperge on Twitter tay
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She had to clear out of the atrium house. Where else would she move them?
That’s what bothers me most about her. She lies about stuff that is neither here nor there. Banking selfies and claiming you got an overnight pass after one week at the new residence (yeah right). Just say you need to rely on your parents for a bit. Nor is she obligated to share anything yet she insists on keeping up the image she thinks others want to see, like lying about the sober living. Why should she be trusted to not lie about much more incriminating things when she will work hard to cover up meaningless shit. >>685854
kek she is eating crow now. Everyone knew she was being manic while riding the high of sobriety and normalcy, yet she blasted anyone who told her to take it slow and chill out. We stan a humble queen /s. But Taylor is never wrong of course. Looks like she’s paying for it, better get back into therapy quick before you relapse if you haven’t already.
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Of course Goose is going to mount them, regardless.
>>685897>we dont let men treat women that way
she doesn't fundamentally understand animals. >>685847
there were also her claims that all her relationship problems were because of her father neglecting her.
Rats hump each other. Boys hump girls, girls hump girls, girls hump boys and boys will hump boys.
Neutering can help lower testosterone and is great for health benefits, but humping is normal lol. Acting as if he's doing it out of malice or something… again, she doesn't know anything about rats.
Why would the sober living home hold her spot when I’m sure they have a list of people waiting to get in and who will actually take it seriously. But yeah, they’re holding your spot while you try and figure where you feel ~comfortable.~
She had to of relapsed. She’s been quiet for days and has never taken our advice of staying off the internet. It’s doubtful she’s in therapy because of the way she acts and still till this day has never taken full accountability for her actions. It’s like she said (and anons said way before) she was just on a newly sober high and will crash real soon.
Mama Dean: oh honey, if you’re going to shoot up H, I much rather you do it in the house. I’m not like the rest of the moms, I’m a cool mom
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She has deleted the pics of her green tree python but this is what she has to say about his tail.
Taylor, you could simply say that and not make fun of people who are concerned about something you claimed to care about? Get rid of the bag and you won't get those questions. >>685911
She never said that. Is it just me or is this thread getting filled with people saying "why does she always lie?" when you're simply misremembering things and stories get more and more blown out of proportions as time passes? An idea: before you claim that Taylor lies about something, go back and find proof.
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Holy shit what >>685944
Thanks anon, guess Twitter was having a spaz.
oh ho ho and now we hear how it's not "safe" to be in sober living just like that supposedly fake Jen account said in the chat. interesting.
and did any of these people relapse after taylor regaled them with tales of roxies and china white?
This makes zero sense. Those people would be removed immediately and it would be safe afterwards? Don't they drug test each person regularly?
She needs help with her compulsive lying. Better yet, just stay off of twitter.
She fucking relapsed and got kicked out. I'm betting on it. Literally why else would she be moving out of a sober living if she is having >>685854
"~sooo much trouble." Why would you not
stay in sober living and stay in THERAPY
Her attitude toward men is super unhealthy, the whole love/hate, badboy, daddy issues thing is getting old.
She flip flops worse than a corrupt politician.
>"FUCK U JONNY BOY I DONT OWE YOU A THING">"We're just bro friends that fuck">"I looooove getting dicked down, it feels sooo good">"My friend bought me a weapon to protect myself, he's so nice">"ALL MEN ARE SCUM, MY ANIMALS ARE THE ONLY MALES THAT LOVE ME REEEEE"
FFS, she needs to start being an adult. You can't just go around screwing random guys expecting it to work out. She ALWAYS overinvests herself emotionally in other people, rehab isn't the place to make friends, it's a place to get sober.
She's just saying this for social asspats. She's just mad that she can't hold down a steady relationship, and is now taking out her frustrations by cutting her animal's nuts off.
She should have done this from the start, probably gonna be more traumatic for the rat now. Animals aggressively breed, they're un-neutered, unsocialized, feeders, what did she expect?
I’ve never understood people like her who do this. Idc if you fuck around but… why do you expect some kind of emotional gain from it?? You’re literally just sleeping around senselessly, not trying to find the love of your life lmao. She’s so toxic
and I bet after her bro friend found out she’d been sperging about him on twitter for days straight he decided to leave the crazy be. She’s honestly delusional as hell.
When she first came back, at least for a few hours, she seemed to have a clear mind and actually spoke normally. Idk what happened, why she turned into this absolute spaz on Twitter, getting more tattoos so quickly, and nonstop talking about dick. I almost wonder if she was somewhat of a normal person away from social media for a month, but coming back to it made her hungry for all the attention and the clout worse than ever. I don’t want to believe she isn’t clean but she’s out of her mind lately.
Yet she was hanging out with two friends who relapsed before at a hotel.
Other than the drugs of course and the fact that she cannot be alone for more than a day.
I'd say she will crawl back to Jake but seeing as he got doxxed I reckon he won't be as dumb. That and she supposedly has no money.
I think your over estimating how much money she gets from YT.
social blade says between $595-$9.5K, overestimated based on what I've heard, probably closer to $800 a month or so because some months she probably makes nothing. That's also BEFORE taxes which is 35% of earnings. YT is also re-evaluating it's monetization policies and ads. Her REAL money comes from sponsorships which are lump sums 40k up.
That's not to mention her atrocious spending habits and overpriced rent. She's easily spent 500k plus on drugs, rent and overpriced toys over the last 2 years. Rehab and hospital visits aren't cheap either.
Considering her net worth is estimated (probably lower) at 1mil, I wouldn't be surprised if she has $100-200k left. but apparently she also owes a significant amount of back taxes, so she doesn't even really "own" that money.
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Ok, but no one is talking about the color being black but TND. Yeah, she's correct about that, but there is also actual stuck shed on the tip of his tail. She's just trying to change the issue to invalidate people's concerns.
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. She's been planing this for a while, this SS was when she was still with jonny at the atrium house.
I think she's floundering because she doesn't a BF or anyway of getting one. She really can't handle being alone. That's why she's retreating back into animals because they can't leave her.
Her "plan" to get with jake must've backfired and now she's at her parents because she doesn't want to be alone in an apartment.
how many hours prior to this lie was taylor trying to convince everyone she was "in talks" with sober house management about her mental health and how it would benefit her more to stay with her parents so she could ~be with her animals~.
so, first she gets ONE overnight pass. then they magically (only when questioned by fans why she's still at home) got multiple overnight passes.
then she's in talks to stay at her parents indefinitely for her mental health (bc her animals make her better)
and NOW she's leaving bc sober living is triggering
bc everyone (except her!) is relapsing and it's not a good environment
at least put a few more hours between your lies, taylor
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Posting old photo like its new
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omg dumbass we can see the thumb on your right hand with a nail on it, stop acting like you took this pic today
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lol she is a dumbass she's already shown us both of her stubby hands with no nails
Why would a partner, even a shithead like Jonny, be dumb enough to get someone who loves snakes and reptiles a LV bag?
I don't buy this, she named a snake Louis right ?
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posted the dog too, for good measure.
inb4 "jonny named the snake".
I don't believe a word she says about it being a gift. she's using JC as a convenient scapegoat of anything she's done wrong in the last two years.
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She said it was her idea on her original post…but she will find a way to blame Jonny if she really wants.
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As well as this in the comments. Ss for posterity's sake.
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>>686146>first few years
Correction: rest of your life. That shit changes your brain chemistry permanently.>>686119
I don't understand why she needs to lie about this shit. Does she think it makes her look more serious about recovery? She can't keep hiding it forever.
These posts of hers always make me laugh, like bitch, you have money and nothing but time on your hands, apply yourself literally to the least degree possible and go get your ass to the salon asap then
She acts like her calendar is just absolutely thronged with shit and it's just so haaaaaard to Do Things
Addicts have tremors and sweats for the rest of their lives? That seems unlikely…drugs addiction alters the reward pathways for the rest of your life and can do some damage to higher-order cognition, but for someone that young to have a permanent tremor they'd have to have a condition like essential tremor or have really fucked up their brain past what a couple years of opiate abuse can do. She's probably going to be dealing with her symptoms for longer than she thinks, but it's just baseless fear-mongering to say that she's going to have a permanent tremor, which are usually caused by damage to or degradation of low-level bran structures like the cerebellum.>>686134
Damn she really is trashy
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whoops forgot to post the other pic
"My tattoos and my TITS" she means. But yeah, at least she outright calls her snakes things
. I guess that addiction counseling is finally getting her to speak her truth for a moment huh
imagine your favourite things about you are tattoos and snakes (which makes no sense, your snakes are not you?). if it's appearance some people would likely pick a body feature, but in typical insecure as hell taylor fashion she picks one of the things she'd had added to her body and isn't there naturally.
mentions nothing about personality - because she doesn't have one.
She said she spayed and neuter all the rats and even claim the stiches were healing really when, a few day later she took a photo of Gus with his testicles intact
Since the beginning it didn’t make sense neuter the girls when it was easier and safer to just spayed Gus
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Accidentally confirmed she is lying with that post lmao. And that she is still at home and her dog and outfit posts are old. Good job Taylor. >>686201
Sure, when you're not in Texas heat. Fucking rank.
Thought she was on buprenorphine? Not saying that will take everything away from PAWS but it shouldn’t be that severe. Maybe her dose is wrong, couldn’t start it because she didn’t stay in a program long enough or she is going through acute withdrawal again, it doesnt make a whole lot of sense. >>686168
So I take it she doesn't have a sponsor yet. She must be looking for the right one, like one with a dick and 2 weeks clean. Sponsors have been known to pull their sponsees out of bars, gutters, bathrooms and bring them to the hospital, meetings or wherever they need to go. This person obviously isn’t her sponsor and we haven’t heard her mention one at all so I’m going to assume she is skipping this step too. Because they will hold her accountable and she definitely doesn’t want that.
Nb4 I’m going to a meeting with my sponsor.
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ok but she actually did. and kept the lie going for over 2 months. annoying when people forget just how much taylor actually lies about EVERYTHING.
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and another one when her stans asked her for updates.
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>I have a sponsor and intensive treatment and everything!
She’s LIVING around ppl too like ewww
it’s one thing to be at home alone Unshowered in ur pjs for a few days but living with ppl in Texas summer and not bathing? She’s still wearing a new ~outfit~ every day, doin her makeup and taking thirst trap pics for IG …..top off the look with her hair a week unwashed, the swamp ass, and those dirty Nike sandals
Hawt girl summer
>>686225>>686226>When even lolcow can't keep track of your lies
It's seriously impossible to. We have all this proof about everything she has lied about but she literally lies so much
that it actually almost in turn covers it up because people forget. I wish there was a way to keep track of it all but it would be a huge amount of work.
yea her animals are just possessions to her. They arn't pets like her cats are they're props.
Her snake is so fat, she thinks she's showing off a cool snake but she's really just showing off her shit husbandry.
I see what your saying anon, the one on the right does look enlarged. Honestly i'm not surprised girl has some serious self image issues.>>686189
waist looks modified here too.
For all her self image issues you'd think she'd take a shower and take care of her general hygiene. It's not like she's busy doing chores, probably gonna be waking up a 12pm and surfing Instagram complaining about how HARD she has it.
This narrative of complete helplessness and lack of agency when in the throws of addiction is so fucking annoying and actually massively counter to recovery efforts. Addicts choose to be shitty people when they're addicted, it's not a brain parasite that removes all of their agency, they're not possessed by a demon.
I get that she's probably in a twelve step program but if you're not American it's pretty plain that AA/NA etc are religious cults. This>completely helpless no control over addiction
is a hallmark of it. They preach that the only way to overcome addition is to recognise you have no control over it, and that only a "higher power" i.e. yhwh can save you from it if you surrender yourself completely and start to have faith. So that when you do recover you're primed to give god all the credit and continue being religious. Twelve step programs are absolute shit and it's driving me mental that she's espousing all this bullshit as if it's 100% proven fact, probably because it's a convenient get out of jail free card for all the bad shit she's done, when it's actually a bunch of cult propaganda.
Tinfoil: I don’t think the text was recent. I’m betting she relapsed and is now setting the stage for it because she knows she won’t be able to hide it for long.
>>I don’t know if telling you this will even stop me. >>I tried reaching out guise, remember the texts. >>addicts are MANIPULATORS and LIARS>>I’m having “acute withdrawal” right now…>>it’s the drugs affecting my brain guise and my shitty genes that make me have endless amounts of disabilities and addictions.
I really think she’s trying to twist the narrative right now. I mean it’s been proven here that she’s posting old pics and claiming they’re recent. I mean for fucks sake she admitted (for once in her life) that she is struggling terribly right now with the aftermath of her addiction and cravings, so.