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21 year old "family friendly pet mom" Youtuber, her 32 year old junkie boyfriend Jonny Craig, and her creepy controlling mother.
Previous thread: >>>/pt/606597
The basics:> Taylor is a notorious animal hoarder known for collecting 40+ rare and exotic pets and manhandling/mistreating them for the sake of her Youtube channel which has over 1 million subscribers. Several pets have died in her care, many more have fallen ill due to her neglect or disappeared after "rehoming" them. Fails to give proper enclosures for many of her pets, including overstuffing fish tanks, keeping her kittens locked in the bathroom, and her mouse and hedgehog in the closet.> Jonny Craig is the frontman of the band Slaves and is most well-known for being an outspoken abusive junkie. He has been in and out of rehab centers for a decade now and has been kicked out of multiple bands and off of tours for his behavior. He is usually homeless when he does not have a girlfriend to leech off of.> Several of Jonny's ex-girlfriends have come out with stories of Jonny's physical and sexual abuse, including rape at knife-point. His ex Chelsea confided this in Taylor when she and Jonny first started dating, in which Taylor's response was to laugh with Jonny and make a public spectacle of it.> Taylor loves to throw pity parties for herself and dodge around the real issues when faced with criticism about her husbandry, hoarding, and hypocrisy. She can never keep her stories straight and will tell outright lies only to contradict them hours later. Her fans are sycophants who only encourage her.
Facebook (private:) https://www.facebook.com/Taylor.Nicole.Dean
List of all Taylor's pets:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QNUksDcQk_cqLTkTFTiPjP2pCGBQgORyCesIIqvZ2Zs/edit?pli=1
Stats of Taylor’s pets and history:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1e8bakM4GHa2J1y4qwYsB-T0jSpN5uWCI_q0dv-odij4/htmlview#
> Still never made an apology video for slandering South Texas Dragons> Admits to live feeding, and knocking rodents out with blunt force instead of a CO2 chamber (as recently as mid Nov, also leaving a live feeder alone with her snake for 20 mins, only checking on it once)> Mushu has been shown without much gill feathering left recently shown much more clearly with facial scarring, even less feathering and stressed posturing> Attempted to purchase two new crocodile skinks on the down low before a smaller pettuber ratted on the cover-up of the deaths> Claiming that she's one of the few pettubers that is actually up front with the accident and the issues they have, despite trying to continuous hide the deaths of her mantis shrimp, lionfish, skinks, pacman frog etc for weeks-months after they happened> More enclosures being shown with completely empty water dishes> Cheese died suddenly, convenietly when she released new merch featuring him, has been pushing her merch harder than usual> She has alluded to a ‘friend’ that has a cowfish twice the size of cheese that she may replace Cheese with (if she hasn’t already)> Gave Cheese a “viking funeral” then sent him for autopsy (put him on a boat during a monetized video)> Videos calling out her care have stated to take over searches for her> In combination with the call-out videos on YT, after she posted the video of Cheese’s “funeral” TND began to hemmorage subscribers> Other pettubers began making (monetized) videos to defend TND and claiming that they were worried that “the bullying against Taylor” might ‘make her’ self harm> Other pettubers begin distancing themselves from TND> TND shuts off comments on the videos and instagram posts around cheese amid mass criticism > Has been bouncing deactivations on her twitter and instagram during the controversy around Cheese> Animals purchased in the last ~ month: Texas Rat Snake, Halloween Crab, 3 Rats, 2 Crocodile Skinks, Sinaloan Milksnake, Scorpion, Ghost Mantis> Recent Known Deaths: Orchid Mantis, Mantis Shrimp, Pacman Frog, Crocodile Skinks, Zazu, Cheese
All Previous Threads:
General Pettuber Thread:>>>/snow/730730
The sad thing taylor reblogged it so she's technically promoting that tweet stating emma kills her fish>>607969
i too find it extremely hilarious >>607969
Thanks! I don't watch her videos and that thing with her not being litter box trained must have slipped by me.
Maybe I was also hoping against hope that someone recognized her and that she was taken out of that appartment.
Having three cats in a relatively small appartment must be horrible! We once had three in a big house with garden access for about a month and it was highly stressful.
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I have three cats in a two bedroom small house, however when you do it right it can work perfectly. However Taylor brought a “outdoor” cat inside , into already established cat territory, with male cats! This was a bad idea the moment she let the poor thing in the door. If she had went about this right, she would’ve had an area where they could see and smell eachother , but not interact, at least until they got used to one another. Star should’ve been given a small area like a bathroom to slowly transition to being in the home, let alone coming inside altogether. That’s cat adoption 101.
My first cat was a 3 year old abused rescue, we gave her the bedroom with her necessities and still didn’t see her for almost a week because she needed her space. When she was settled , she still found it hard to adjust because she was used to other cats ((being from an actual rescue)) so we brought a kitten in.
You know what I didn’t do Taylor? Plop her in the fucking other cats territory and hope it all worked out.
The kitten was put in a large kennel at night in the same room as the large cat ((with supervision until we were confident they were fine)) and guess what? They don’t piss all over my house, why? Because they were properly introduced.
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This is post 443759 from the very first TND thread >>>/snow/438560
The whole reason people even checked San Antonio's CL listings when she got a new cat was because she tried to pull this "I'm gonna buy from CL and pretend it's a rescue" stunt before. Her followers called her out on it the first time bc she was careless and used the listing photos in her tweet.
She got a TINY bit smarter with Ghost and uploaded her own photos instead, but the fact remains that no agency would adopt out a 5 1/2 week old kitten and all the other details from that night are sketchy af.
It's useless to try and convince her stans. They're not coming from a place of reason so reason doesn't sway them. Best thing to do is continue calling out her poor care and hypocrisy in a consistent, dispassionate way so reasonable people can see she is not who they thought she was.
Honestly, her parents are such a disappointment. It's clear now why Taylor is the way she is. They really failed her. Instead of using this as a watershed moment to try and help her out of the abusive relationship she's in, they're helping her double down on delusion.
Taylor, you're not a kid anymore. You're responsible for dozens of lives, not the least of which is your OWN. Quit scraping by with bare minimum care. Pricy set-ups, retail therapy, drugs (if you do in fact use) will never be a substitute for quality care and safe, meaningful relationships.
Also, to any "friend" of Taylor's that genuinely thinks she may be considering self-harm: it's on YOU to report that shit to the authorities. If you don't ACTUALLY think she's in danger, using it an emotional manipulation tactic on others is flat out vile. If you actually give a damn about her or her animals, you know NONE of them are in a good place right now. Why not be a real friend (or PARENT) and reassure her the sky will not fall down if she admits her flaws and starts making changes. Give her a safe place to land before she crashes.
Tbh they all use each other, yet clearly when its like this is suddenly wrong. >>608019
I think it depends on how playful her cats are really, I don't mean to defend her or anything but a lot of cats calm down as they grow older. That being said, there's still 3 cats in an apartment with little to no toys, two feeding stations at best and maybe 2 litter boxes if we're lucky. >>608081
I think that some of this may happen, but I don't think she will admit her mistakes on a full scale. She will dismiss any and all accusations about water/cage agression/whatever else with random bs (plus it's not that hard to fix, it's keeping it fixed that's hard).
If anything, the entire drama is just weeding out all the weak stans
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Tagged photo of jc at a show
As someone who has been around countless alcoholics, I can assure you those swollen fingers are the aftermath of drinking. Probably a long night of partying, drug abuse, hard liquor, and ignoring Taylor for JC.
Here is a source on drinking being correlated to swelling in hands/feet: https://www.livestrong.com/article/510994-my-hands-are-swollen-after-drinking-liquor/
I didn't realise the thread was being made so I missed out on posting it before it went up.
Also my schedual as of late has been busy so sorry bout that skjlahda
this is also true, but as Chelsea confirmed a couple threads ago, he is in liver failure and was given less than a year to live if he didn’t commit to being sober. the end stages of this can cause a lot of swelling. he obviously isn’t sober, so his liver issues are likely progressing.
I honestly think Taylor is aware of this and that’s why she just lets the manlet do whatever. his body is going to give out in a year or so since he won’t consistently stay sober, and she will get to be the victim yet again all while having her secrets covered because he’s dead. he’s a piece of shit but she can’t break up with him because he’s seen too much that would ruin her career in terms of the poor husbandry, hygiene issues, replacing, etc….knowing full well he drags his exes through hell and back, she’s trapped and i would seriously bet my life savings that she’s going through the motions and just waiting for him to finally croak. it’s so fucked up and toxic and a hoard of innocent animals are having to pay for it.
you’re not wrong, different anon than the imgur one but I was going through old threads hoping to compile more screenshots to add to a master post of her tangled web of lies, since Taylor and her rabid stans always stand by there’s “nO pRoOF!!” to anything we discuss here. that text message was something I stumbled across again. old milk of course but a number confirmed to be Taylor’s texted Chelsea, saying she heard JC crash to the floor blacked out and that she didn’t care if he was dead. Tay said it, not Chelsea.
but relationship goalsZ!!!11!! amirite stans!! It’s a total sham.
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For some more perspective here's the layout of her apartment and its size. I'm hoping this is okay to post, since she has shared the layout of the three bedroom apartment, and it doesn't show her address.
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Looks like he missed the majority of his shot of dope in his hand
Can you imagine having these dudes ugly face and dirty fingers all up on you? Literal nightmare fuel/PTSD for life
Okay, I'm finally done updating the imgur album through thread #24. https://imgur.com/a/luLGDEx
It's about Taylor's ever-evolving lies about her assistants, experts, and cleaner. I think this is one of Taylor's most dangerous lies, honestly. This is the crux of how she gets away with neglecting, hoarding and killing animals. Every time she gets rightfully called out she can trot out her worst and most dangerous lie of all, the one that morphs to suit her needs: that there is a whole crew of experts that she has hired to help her with her and her animals needs that can come over at the drop of a hat. Her stans will continue to believe nothing is her fault until they are disabused of the idea that someone is taking care of these animals 24/7. The truth is, Taylor sleeps all day, travels the rest of the time, and NO ONE competent is monitoring them.
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When you try to hide your "blemishes" with the caption. lol
Oh Jonny, we already saw the picture >>608101
posted. Nice try tho.
I was just about to ask how recent the first picture was. This answers my question.
How much time is left in his tour?
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So, if she’s referring to the a New Yorker interview in this tweet, that means Bindi was in that empty enclosure at least a month, end of September to end of October, at least. How long does it take to “treat mites”? Jeez
Thing is, if there was mites on Bindi, she should have checked all of the reptiles in the room, so all of them would/should have had barren enclosures (which we know is wrong anyway).
Whichever way you spin the story, it doesn't make much sense. I've seen her stans try to defend it by saying that the enclosure was being cleaned hence why there was nothing in it (though I'd personally not put the animal back until it's decorated and all).
I think Nemo and Ghost are fixed. Don't know about Star though. If she has a microchip that's not registered then she has at least been to a vet before Taylor "rescued" her.
I sincerely hope that they spay her if she isn't already because if she gets out of that appartment and gets pregnant I'd bet they'd keep all the kittens.
I am starting to suspect that she is another Craigslist adoption but Taylor was a bit smarter about it than with Ghost.
As a comparison, jvloggers Rachel and Jun found a cat out in the countryside; the cat was tested, vaccinated and had extra worm treatment before entering the home. They also handled the integration stage with care. Despite all this, the cat still has issues. I've adopted an 'apartment cat' in the past and they come with unique problems and needs.
It's not just a matter of smooshing them all together and hoping for the best.
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Any speculation on this?
Thank you for the information! I am not from the US and I assumed that it was kind of standard practice.>>608362
Makes sense! Thank you. I knew about the tattooing but where I live spaying and neutering of feral cats is mostly done by private people. >>608361
Those poor kitties!
But do those programs also microchip animals? I can't really imagine they do.
Pretty sure ACS is coming in for a video like she said, I'm sure she would consider this a 'huge thing' for her channel. (see >>607546
Well now I am really surprised! I always thought only cats in shelters/with owners are microchiped.
Maybe because the closest experience at a bigger spay and neuter was a nice vet fixing the cats other people dumped at the farmstead of an old lady and they weren't marked afterwards.
Thank you, this was really enlightening!
Do they store any information on those microchips if they release the cats?
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Still no instagram. I wonder what's going on
Even if it didn't go her way, I doubt she'd ever admit it, even if no one knows what it is.
Think it's a new channel mascot? "Big for our family and her career" sounds like a new addition to pimp for views.
Jonny's reply to the one tweet said its not addressing the recent stuff because they're not pressed and "the truth will come out."
Maybe she's enrolling in some sort of education program?
Eh, I'm leaning more toward buying a house.
If you think about it, it's the most logical step for her. One of the complaints against her is that she's cramming a lot of animals in a very tiny space. If you remove that out of the equation, a lot of people will stop bothering her.
It might also get ACS off her back because the way she freaked out implies she knows, at least to a certain extent, that she'd have to rehome some of her animals.
Nah, getting an education wouldn't benifet her! Silly you! She already knows everything there is to know.
But for real. Do yall think she's getting a hot? A couple threads back wasn't she talking about getting her permit or something? That'd be a major boost in veiws for her. Imagine her waving it in front of her face. The ad revenue.
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Looks like her Twitter is gone again
or herself, i remember her saying snakes only attack in defence and giving how often she manhandles her animals (especially the ones she says don't like being touched) it will strike her.
I dont know how viper keeper is thought of here but ignoring whatever even his snakes attempt strikes even when they know he brings food.
Viperkeeper's care is quite problematic
as well, but anyways. His snakes often try to strike BECAUSE they know he brings food and are anticipating to be fed. Snakes get excited just like any other animal. Taylor would most likely get too scared of the potential hot snake to even feed it because that's just what they do.
Sometimes it's okay to not keep new animals if they don't work out, but usually that's because of the animal's best interest, not the owner's or the gd carpet's best interest. I took in a stray cat a little before they did and wasn't sure I'd be able to keep him for a while because I didn't know how he'd do inside or if my other cats would get along with him. Since it takes weeks to properly introduce cats I wasn't 100% sure it'd work out for 5 or 6 weeks. Magically, that didn't seem to be an issue at all for Taylor! (Because she knows absolutely nothing about cats ugh.)
Since I know she reads here and maybe she'll pick up some advice: with three cats Taylor needs at LEAST four litter boxes in that apartment. (As well as 3 feeding stations and 3-4 different places for them to access water. Which shouldn't be too near the litter boxes.) She could try different litter, different boxes, litter attract products, etc. Enzymatic cleaner on whatever the cats pee on outside the box to deter them from peeing there again. The cat/s not using the box should also have a urinalysis to check for UTIs. Also, though I suspect Star wasn't really an outdoor cat, if she really was a stray her whole life then Taylor should try putting leaves and dirt from outside in the box for a while to make the box more appealing to a cat not used to having to use a box with artificial litter. I bet she's done none of that.
The grossest part about this is that Jonny is apparently more worried about the cat not using the litter box than about the cat scratching Nemo. You can't cram your living space full of pets, introduce them improperly, and then have the cats fight at the expense of the cat that was there first. It's cruel. Those poor cats. I wish she'd rehome them all to someone who actually knows how to introduce new cats and just give them the basic care I doubt they're getting. >>608375
That or they could have shut down. I don't know anything about that area, but where I live it's not always easy to get the finances to keep smaller/private animal rescues open.
It's not a great move for her career.
I think anons are overestimating her in every way with this.
They probably just got a new pet, maybe a cleaner/maid/actual assistant or called up ACS.
At most, I could see her rehoming some pets but it depends on how Jonny feels about that.
Fuck you're right. She's going to have a serious burn out if she thinks reading/answering to/deleting every single HATE COMMENT is good damage control. I almost feel bad for her mental health.
If only she could project this panic mode control freakery on, idk
.. her animals well-being, for once? 🤠
Just so you new anons know: We aren't supposed to use emojis/smileys unless we are mocking the way someone talks or something.
But yeah. I also don't feel bad for her. All of this is her own fault.
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Yup def sober!!!
That's actually a thing that turned me off her, other channels while they have this weird tone to them at times still feel okish.
Meanwhile while watching Taylor I never felt on the same level, she would go on about her woes and problems but almost every week she has something new and expensive to show off and how she's friends with so many store owners it's just, I get it you have more money than me please stop rubbing it in my face.
I wouldn't have a clue, I really only followed her youtube and instagram then her twitter for like, a month before I gave up, it is possible though.
But yeah I wouldn't care for the amount of animals she got over the year (this is of course if they got the correct care) if she didn't brag bout their price and/or morph, her bonds should be with the animal at the base not their fancy colours or species.
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She doesn’t use it anymore, but it does exist
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Jesus her stans piss me off.
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Haven't seen this one posted yet. Sorry if I missed it but my God this man is a fucking disgusting mess
but taylor feels SO loved and comfortable and safe and that's all that matters
According to Jen, (which I forgot if it was a tweet or interview) Taylor likes the Slaves when she was younger. If I recall, she was either 12 or 15. Apparently has always been a super big fan. It was probably similar to the Post Malone situation. DMed him on twitter and now they live in a tiny apartment with 50 animals with clever names like Egg and even if Taylor wouldn’t allow it, Boss Baby.
It’s a modern love story.
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He's dressed like an uncircumcised penis lol>>608629
He's like an accessory for her and she's been trying to fix him since they started dating. With the amount of money that she's spent on his teeth alone she could have put a down payment on a pretty nice house. I just checked on Zillow and houses are cheap af in San Antonio. She can get a 4 bedroom 2,000+ sq foot house for over 300k and likely pay less on a mortgage than she does on her rent. As long as Jonny is around, she'll continue to hemorrhage money.
Ever since reading this >>608285
a few threads back, I'm convinced she's not going to get a house b/c she doesn't want Johnny to have his name on anything, or to have anything to do with it, really.
I can only hope she's just waiting around for him to die of liver failure so she can replace him with something shiny and new. She does it with her animals so it's not really a stretch…
Queen and king of "If I put it in a tweet, it makes it true!!!"
If she would NEVER hurt those animals why have so many of them died????
Even if he wanted to be on the lease, he can’t because he has a criminal record.
She hasn’t gotten a house either because she can’t afford it or because she’s saving up money for the million dollar house her manchild boyfriend wants.
I want her to do better for her animals also but I can see why some anons would be upset about what will likely happen (her fixing up her care for a livestream to show that "nothing was ever wrong and it was all bullshit")
It discredits any valid criticisms people had, have, or will have, as even if she goes back to being neglectful, she will just use this theoretical livestream as proof that she isn't
However, that assumes that she will only improve her care for the livestream and then go back to neglecting her animals.
yeah it’s already too late for her livestream to mean shit. she’s being forced to get her shit together. if the claims made against her weren’t valid she would have shown her enclosures and apartment already. >>608693
sucks for you ig? why blogpost abt it lol
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Happy Tails commented on what ever’s video.
Just because her care is bad, does not mean that Taylor's care is good.
One could even argue that HT can comment BECAUSE her care is bad. She knows what bad care looks like. She provides it.
I never said Taylor's care was good, but HT's is absolutely worse. It's just funny that she says>it's weird to see people that defender her turn around and attack me
as if she thinks her care is better than taylor's. Either way I guess it's good to have another pettuber(one with a decent audience) agreeing that taylor's care sucks though.
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Is she ok
Jennifer is a walking poster child for NPD. Not surprising that Taylor probably has it, based on her known behaviour.
She's a JustNOMom. I feel bad for any kids that inherit her as a MIL.
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Wow. She even acknowledges here that due to water quality even small cowfish should be in a much bigger tank than a 30 gallon bio cube. Yet didn’t she at some point say some shit about why would she put such a small fish like Cheese in such a big tank and that he was fine in the overstocked bio cube?
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those are not 35,000 teeth. I’ve seen better 1,000 Tijuana cap jobs. She only capped four and the rest were pulled. It actually looks more like a cheap bridge tbh.
No, you should if you're Jen so everyone could reassure her that she's the best mom every - without any evidence.
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Windows just made a shitpost for me
They’ve been living together a year. In the eyes of the law isn’t that like married? Isn’t she then responsible for his funeral
/burial and debt when he croaks?
Common-law can usually only be proven/established if people intend to be married, someone takes the others last name, you hold joint bank accounts, tell people you are married, file taxes together, raise children together, etc. Most of the time, courts recommend a note signed by both declaring this, but in the end, only a judge can declare people informally married. It's not as simple as just living together and dating.
Texas doesn't seem to have a time frame to declare this, just any sort of proof as well as the knowledge that people are not married to anyone else and over 18.
I definitely do not think her big step is marriage. It sounds like it's some sort of education. It has to be regarding both family and career.. Career being that it would advance it, and family meaning she would make more money. That is quite literally all Jonny cares about.
Kids do say some awful things without realizing it, especially when they have mental delays or other similar things.
However, Mama Dean actively encourages it and brags on it as being 'quirky' without trying to correct it. Like when Tanner called women something to the effect of "bitches". Mama Dean would rather post about it or show video of it for attention than try to correct the behavior and get him to stop doing it.
And she wonders why people think she's a bad parent?>>608870>anyone defending her doesn't give a shit about animal life.
That's 100% the case. Just look at the majority of the responses people get for pointing out the truth. They all boil down to "Taylor couldn't have done X because she's a great person! And if something did happen it's fine because they're just animals that were blessed to be around her to begin with."
Very few of them actually give a shit about the animals, they just only care about the animals in the first place because they're Taylor's animals. If they were all owned by Johnny and Taylor never interacted with them then Johnny could've drowned them all in the background of a video and they wouldn't have cared so long as Taylor acted like nothing was out of the ordinary about it.
Every single Instagram post on her page would have people in the comments asking for advice about a pet they had, whether Taylor had one or not.
It was sickening. She's not a vet, she's had no training, she has minimal experience in all of these aninals. She has no clue how to care for a sick animal.
Ugh I finally listened to him sing too and I'm in shock.
He's not exactly a person you'd imagine to have a decent voice.
Damn, his singing voice is p good but I'm surprised how light it is, I expected something more raspy and crinkly and trashy.
Too bad he's decided to be the shittiest human being ever, maybe more people would actually want to listen to his music.
It's not really that uncommon to see women, especially late teenagers and young adults in their early 20's, having some sort of savior complex and playing cool girl.
He presents himself as a rockstar "riddled with demons" to a sheltered girl who's just been launched into a semblance of internet fame and independence, and well you have this as the result.
Taylor might be pretty and have a following but she isn't necessarily remarkable enough to attract someone with a lot of money and success. In this day and age there's plenty of people on youtube with 1mil subscribers so she's not exactly special in that sense either.
Plus, men like JC often manage to enter relationships with women who have very low self-esteem. If you look at Chelsea and Liz, both of them are really pretty, but both of them have (or had) low self-esteem. Having someone who's kinda famous paying attention to you when you have low self-esteem can make you feel like you're at the top of the world. And age is important too. It'd be a different thing if Taylor was, say, 25, because by then she'd have matured fully, and she'd be well into adulthood, but she met him when she was 20. A 20 year old is more willing to let your fuck ups slide than someone with more experience. That's why he's getting older but his girlfriends are getting younger.
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Idk if this was posted before but I found this on Twitter. Looks like Jen DMed this to a girl regarding something she posted about eds and how her dad killed himself because of it. I think she's really an evil bitch.
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Context for last screenshot
His pet care is not much better. He has a hamster in a critter trail with fluffy/cotton nesting material.
Critter trails are way too small, or as he words it air quotes
"not the best per say," and cotton nesting material is dangerous and can strangle your ham from within it's body. When corrected he said "they like it so I mixed it with their bedding and I only use a tiny bit."
I'm glad people are realizing Taylor's care is bad but I wish it was people with actual proper care so they don't just seem like an ass. Literally watched one video and bounced.
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Isn’t kim Chelsea’s roommate/friend? Has anyone seen the screenshotted tweet?
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You can follow this link for the general thread to talk about Petubers in general >>>/snow/730730
and this one for guidance on posting https://lolcow.farm/info
. This thread is for Taylor.
It's a common expression that mocks the other person for saying something untrue.
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and for bonus points, see her spergout at >>>/snow/624638
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"They're talked about in it!" is not an apology. So ~~excited~~ to see how quickly she'll walk through the steps of the Narcissist's Prayer there.
That didn’t happen.
And if it did, it wasn’t that bad.
And if it was, that’s not a big deal.
And if it is, that’s not my fault.
And if it was, I didn’t mean it.
And if I did…
You deserved it.
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Who tf brags about tank temperature like this? Like wow you’re doing the bare minimum way to go. Still on the high end of the range in December is concerning when she can afford a chiller. Show his gills in clear lighting first. His temperature could be fine and there could still be a host of other things wrong.
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>my animals are taken care of
except for when you only check on them once in a 22 hour period and three of them die as a result. If that's even what really happened.
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When flexing goes wrong and you accidentally reveal that you’re not so sober after all.
I mean, we all knew it, but this is hilarious.
They could just think being sober means he doesnt do heroin>>609345
Yea it's most likely this, us american's can be pretty retarded sometimes
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Two Taylor tweets re: Jonny’s sobriety as of 4 days ago.
“Completely sober” and “Looks healthier every single day cause he’s not even drinking”, apparently.
I think the point is that nobody really gives a shit whether Jonny drinks or not. It’s the fact that a huge part of her argument when it comes to defending Jonny’s awful personality and behaviour is around his new sobriety i.e. “it was all in the past!!! he made bad decisions because he wasn’t sober!! he only raped his ex girlfriends because he was an addict! he’s a good person now!!” etc. ad infinitum
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"what does drinking have to do with my teeth" … well lets see what happened with your first set and heavy drinking, JC.(Cowtipping)
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He was responding to this comment from the person saying the 53k was down the drain
This bitch is so fucking dense it makes my blood boil.
"People think my axolotl looks horrible because of wrong tank temp, so I'll keep posting pictures of the thermometer with passive-aggressive cowboy emojis to prove them wrong lmao!"
IF THE TEMPERATURE IS CORRECT, THEN THERE'S ANOTHER REASON WHY MUSHU LOOKS LIKE SHE'S ROTTING TO DEATH.
Fucking find the problem and fix it before you have another dead animal on your hands.
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But the door was closed in one of your videos Taylor?
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Her fans are the best
Heck yeah, thanks anon.>>609426
What types of tweets?? Don't have twitter but am very curious
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For y'all without twitter to enjoy
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made this for the lolz
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She’s an hour late and her fans are delusional as ever. No one is surprised.
Literally thought the same thing!
Like these aren’t our animals yet we put in more effort
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then she said it was just bait hahaha how stupid are her fans
Even if she was baiting… what the fuck would it prove?
What ever, you have the patience of a saint. I'm sorry you're having to deal with these idiots.
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She really has no shame whatsoever
THIS NEEDS TO SHOW UP IN THE VIDEO COMMENTS
i am cackling
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The proof is still up on her insta that she said others were malnourished, and I'm pretty sure she mentioned in the past "lots had tail and foot injuries!!!" Which is it Taylor? They were all fine expect for twisty, or there was "hundreds" and they were malnourished and injured.
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I'll admit a lot of what people say is speculation, and I do believe she gets heat on shit that is not worth it. However if she is confused about the count, how about she look at the google doc or sheet? inb4 she says that her $50-100 a head fish that died 4 years too early are 'just fish' and that they die all the time.
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1. crocs and frog died while she was "out of the house", it was a mistake, it could happen to anyone, she didn't replace the frog and she did replace the skinks but it's not "replacing" since the breeder posted about it publicly
2. not that many animals died this year, maybe only if you "count every single fish and insect"
3. fish die all the time they are so sensitive but most of hers are doing super duper great. sth about fish often being stressed bc of being wild caught with cyanide…?
4. she is very good at animal care bc none of her reptiles have died
5. kitten died even tho she did everything right, she brought her to the vet twice on the day she died, the vet said she did everything right, it died at the vet, she starts crying, would die for her cats "i love all of my cats"
6. twisty was sold to her with a broken (? whatever) tail, she didn't remember who sold him to her. it's her fans fault she attacked texas dragons bc they suggested at them and she was like "sounds about right". she did apologise to them via email (pretty sure they wanted a PUBLIC apology to make up for the reputation damage, not some stupid email but ok). it was "miscommunication"
7. she actually kind of recognises that she fucked up with the monitor, but her care now is soooo good and he is "thriving"
8. she smoked in the living room close to her satanics. she didn't know you were not supposed to do that bc she "doesn't smoke often". her windows were open and her fan was on. also her ceilings are high. she doesn't smoke anymore, she "doesn't remember when she smoked the last time". the satanics are "thriving". she has had them "since a year".
9. rats: she bought them unplanned, not impulsively, she was prepared, well, mentally. so it's fine.
10. one time she wanted to do quarantine in her bathroom and ppl were like "that's not good" so she didn't do it (quarantine in general i guess lol). she takes advice sometimes and is very open to learn, but she blocks a lot for her mental health.
11. there was a "period in her life" and she only talked about this with, "like, therapists", and this period was until "like, april" where she accumulated a lot of animals very quickly. she prepared a lot for all of them though (you JUST talked about the monitor thing but ok). for instance her green three python is doing great. but she was not happy with herself and that's why she bought so many so quickly, it gave her a natural high, she still feels like that, but she has slowed down a lot, just got "a few snakes", nothing big (??????). she "plans on keep slowing down more". she's working her "butt off" everyday for them, so no worries.
12. she's very sorry and she never wants to hurt animals, she doesn't even show all of her animals on youtube, so she doesn't even make moneys from all of them. she would die for them.
13. she's learning more about her anxiety and mental health and dealing with criticism.
14. she rehomed the seahorses bc she was messing up with them, so when she thinks she cannot take care of an animal she doesn't keep it.
15. ppl keep calling her apartment complex and ACS, but ACS says she is doing very great. bc of the calls she needs to get out of her lease early (i thought she wanted to buy a house and her lease was already up and she extended it..?).
16. she won't keep addressing the drama
17. before, she wanted to be a marine biologist but the channel made people "so happy", that's why she changed her career plans, because before, she wanted to be an actress.
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Last time she mentioned volunteering was 2015…and as someone who does volunteer frequently and has for many years…if you’re just doing base level volunteer work, you don’t really get hands on with very young or sick animals. They leave that to experienced fosters and vets…
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According to her instagram her geckos are 3.5-4.5 years old… Why does she never know the ages of her pets? She's barely been keeping reptiles for 3 years.
Yikes! Yikes! Yikes!
I hate this double standard that she’s perpetuating that mental illness is real and affects your ability to cope with daily life, yet for some reason apparently it doesn’t at all affect the way you live your life? It’s such bullshit.
Yes people suffering from mental illness should and can have happy, fufilling lives, but acting like it you can still do all the things you would be able to do if you didn’t have mental illness is part of the reason it’s so difficult for so many people struggling with their mental health to get the support and resources they need to thrive.
Mental illness is a DISABILITY. That means that means it affects your ability to lead a ‘normal’ life.
If someone with debilitating back pain told you they wanted a job in a warehouse doing the heavy lifting, you’d think they were stupid.
If Taylor’s mental illness is apparently so bad that she can’t even keep a consistent upload schedule and struggles with basic human tasks like keeping her living space clean, why in the hell would she put herself in a living situation where she has so many pets she to be constantly working with them with no mental downtime in order to take care of them (properly).
It’s the same thing. These are situations that your disability limits what you are capable of. A person with severe back pain cannot be lifting heavy packages 8 hours a day, and a person struggling to take care of themselves cannot take care of 50 other lives.
Living with a disability means knowing your own limitations and working around them. If you have mental illness and want to work wth animals? Great! Me too! But you cannot put 50 animals worth of strain on your brain when it is already struggling? What the fuck!
Hell she could have made an amazing video series about taking care of animals when you have debilitating mental illness. That would have helped so many people.
But instead she acts like her mental illness doesn’t AT ALL affect her ability to take care of 50 animals? Ya right.
I’m so sick of her crying mental illness but never doing anything to help herself.
Blogpost but I want to use myself as an example: I have clawed tooth and nail to get where I am now. I will probably never be able to have a full time schedule. But I still go to couniling twice a week, talk to a different counsilor on the phone daily, and see a psychiatrist monthly. But I’ve improved. Living with mental illness is such hard work and Taylor just sits and doesn’t put in any of the effort, and still cries about how hard it is for her. She gets to sit on her ass as a job for fucks sakes.
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We're never getting those results, huh?
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Thx anon, doin’ the lord’s work
Cackling at these memes now I gotta figure out how to compile into a good header
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>Please try to watch this all the way through
Yes for that sweet sweet revenue.>>609620
Thanks for summarising anon. #11 is incredibly telling, she's admitting to having an acquisition issue, which is of course a major element of hoarding.
I wish she would address it, but honestly what's she going to say? That shit is undeniable. Her animal care could be perfect and I would still have unsubbed over that alone. But of course her animal care is shit too. >>609636
lying is more automatic to her than breathing at this point. If she were just forgetting their ages it's on HER instagram, she could just look it up. But nope, instead she lies and anyone who uses her own words against her is a hater.
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This is her email to the breeder that she claims is an apology.
This is fucking disgusting. She really can't own up to her actions at all and manages to be condescending to the point of offending yet again.
Taylor, you do not get to decide if you made someone else feel shitty or if you slandered them AFTER THE FACT. That's bullshit and manipulative as fuck. Learn how to say you fucked up and learn how to apologize. I hear they make Youtube videos of that shit.
lmaooo standard taylor "apology":
1. i did nothing wrong
2. everyone else did everything wrong
3. i tried so hard but people are mean to me, me, me
4. I Am So Sad
So, she gets new animals because she's mentally prepared, but she gets animals because she's mentally unwell.
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Replies about the necropsy…
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Maturity at its best! Hope the rat chews her headphone cord!
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Can we also mention that she said she spayed her rats, which if you didn't know is so much more dangerous than neutering. Especially since she has 2 girls and 1 boy. Since spaying or neutering a rat takes a lot of skill it costs about $50-$100. This makes me almost think she didn't even do it. future video "my rat was secretly preggers!!" where she blames the breeders.
P.s not all girls are "squirmy" they obviously both have a bad personality and are scared of humans.
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Lmao so ironic
I put together a quick imgur album of Taylor never having what her animals need despite claiming that taking care of them is her job. https://imgur.com/a/NDX6zXA
If you have other examples let me know because it's hilarious.
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Are you kidding me?
same. Idk about SA but where I live shortened leases are super popular with students and military because we never know how long we're actually planning to be there. It's also just available to everyone though. >>609776
she totally got cats because Jonny always adopts new cats with his new girlfriends, apparently. I'm sure he wanted them and how could she say no to a new animal? She's TND afterall. Why she went with the two week old kittens I have no fucking clue though, there's a reason you're supposed to be trained and prepared to take on bottle babies. Where she really got them is another question. I have a hard time believing someone in a pet store HAPPENED to have these kittens and MAGICALLY stumbled upon TND.
That roach video was hilarious. Why not wait to make it until after you have everything you need?>>609785
She can't go one video without mentioning she doesn't have something.
Spaying females can also cut down on the incidences of mammary tumours.
However…. no shaved bellies = no spay. I've seen no evidence that the females were spayed in any photo or vid Taylor has taken of them so far, and it's very obvious Goose is not neutered. I sadly don't find it unlikely that she's using them to breed food for her snakes. :/
And she couldn't even do that without creating a big, old pile of lies. She could have easily bought herself some breeders, set things up correctly and quietly bred her own snake food without alerting her stans to it.
Noo, she had to play savior, "rescue" baby rats, make a big deal out of how they were pets, blah, blah, blah. Everything is to get herself praise. Fucking everything.
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Is this even true or is she spreading another lie to make herself look better?
I don't think anon can even if she wanted to
You need a certain amount of views and suscribers ( and a partnership)
So that's bs
And why is she all butthurt that she couldn't monetizated Cheese funeral, yes Taylor you can't win money of your dead pets.
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You’re an animal channel, if constantly posting about animal updates is boring then I’m sorry but you’re in the wrong community
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To be fair, she didn't have to make a video for them to feel this way. Ultimately she is making that video for the haters not for her loyal stans. There's a certain number of them who will quite literally forgive her for murder.
However imo she's not doing herself favors because there's more people who don't like her than she thinks. I think she's sooo used to getting away with everything but since people finally feel like they're not the only ones who dislike her they're unsubbing or at least starting to question her. In Taylor world she should have 1.5 million subs and not ONE of those people should question, dislike, or feel any type of way other than positive about her and her actions.
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So…I’m not a snake person…do you really feed once a week?
Taylor retweeted someone praising her for taking on neonatal kittens because they would be euthanized if she took them to a rescue or shelter.
Something seems to have happened to it. Did anyone get a screenshot of it?
It drives me crazy when people praise her for this. There's an organization in San Antonio that deals in orphaned kittens, that is easily found with a Google search. (https://www.sanantoniopetsalive.org/programs/programs-neonatal-kitten/
If she had cared about Nemo and his sister she should have given them to this organization instead of attempting it on her own. Maybe that grey kitten would still be here then
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This guy maybe? He keeps flip flopping his views and is desperately using TND to try and get views. It’s sad af.
I don't think this was it, but I didn't know this guy had the same train of thought.
Like yeah, neonatal kittens often are euthanized at regular shelters. Taylor had at least one organization to contact, though. There was no need for someone who had NEVER HAD CATS to try and keep the most vulnerable kittens alive.
This is what bugs me, too. She has zero experience with cats or caring for kittens, and surprise, surprise, she wound up killing one of them. If she really loved animals she'd get her head out of her ass and let someone qualified take care of them.
But we know it's not gonna happen. Taylor seems to be one of those people who's fucking convinced they're the smartest and most knowledgeable person everrrrr.
Neonatal kittens are a lot of work that many busy shelters don't have time or resources for. They do get euthanized, a lot. Once they hit weaning age they are more likely to be kept, but before that you need a dedicated person monitoring them and feeding them every 2-3 hours on formula.
There is some validity to praising one for taking in neonatals, but again - Taylor did it independently, without help from an organization, having never had a cat before, let alone babies.
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I was going back through some of her older videos and I found this gem. I love how a little less than a year later she would move out and leave Kida behind.
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don't we know this guy? saw the post in a reptile fb group this morning
tube/assist feeding is incredibly stressful for snakes and could easily kill a snake that's starving. if a snake only takes live, you feed live. you minimize the risks by feeding supervised and work on finding a way to get the snake to take frozen in the meantime.
assist or tube feeding is when a snake won't even take live or is too weak to strike or eat. it's literally a last resort choice for when the choice is tube feed or death. please don't spread shit info if you don't know what you're talking about.
No one is saying "don't feed a snake live if it will only eat live". We're just saying it's less safe, and should only be done so IF the snake will only eat live, and If all other options have been exhausted. And yes, it is illegal in some countries because it is inhumane to feed captive snakes live when most will take f/t. Now stop arguing with us over it. It's less safe and arguably inhumane. End of story.
Now, back to Taylor. Her snakes that take live most likely have eating issues because of her husbandry and because she (at least in the past) moved to feed. If her animals are uncomfortable, not high enough heat or humidity, or if you handle them before feeding, they may not eat. We've seen before that her humidity isn't properly kept track of, so I'd venture to guess her humidity is low. Her enclosures don't offer enough security, so they feel unsafe. She needs to stop feeding live and take a lot at her enclosures and husbandry, as this is the cause of most royal python feeding strikes.
>>610103>live feeder detected
nta but jfc you must be an idiot. mice aren't just going to sit back and let the snake eat them. even in the wild, snakes get injured by their prey constantly, but there, they have it alot easier to stalk and surprise prey than they do in an enclosure. mice still have a fight or flight response so in an enclosure they're more likely to attack the snake when threatened.
people who feed live prey to snakes are either just ignorant or edgy shits who probably have snakes cause they're #metal or some shit.
Those people are retarded.
Now shut the fuck up about it. Live feeding is bad, but it's just one issue on a laundry list of bs that TND does.
Just because it's common doesn't make it right and it's illegal in some places. From a moral standpoint, live feeding is horrific and is also dangerous for the snake.>>610045
I remember Emzotic talking about this actually, it was for one of her snakes she brought over to the US who went on hunger strike? She mentioned how she didn't want to live feed and sure enough, within a few months the snake was back to eating F/T. Say what you want about Emzotic, but at least she has the patience for that.
It's taught in veterinary medicine animal nutrition that it is much better to get an animal to feed pre-killed or frozen/thaw than to feed live if at all possible. For many reasons. Disease, parasites and other illness, stress to either animal, the potential to damage the snake, the economical reasons, storing, the issues with now having a humane mouse/rat set up, it isn't just one factor it's many factors for both animals and also owner.
Also not an argument, just because something else bad happens doesn't mean no one can argue another bad thing happening. Even so, slaughter in first world countries are regulated so animals are incapacitated beforehand and we don't eat most of our animals alive.>>610061
She also used to refer to Kiara as her dog, I guess until Kida came into the picture.
Yeah this dude was sperging about her for like 3 threads and then sent one of his friends to post for him about how she was so mean or some shit.
He’s a huge cringelord that we’re better off ignoring.
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The shit she retweets kissing her own ass is so cringy
The logic that Taylor at some point gave was that she deleted things constantly because they were negativity.
But honestly if you don't want "negativity", then don't go around playing bad bitch only to delete shit afterwards. Fucking own it.
He's emotionally stunted and not very bright so in his case it's probably to make the h8trz back off.
Either way, both of them thrive on being in echo chambers that keep their delusions going. Which is why blind optimism often stunts self-awareness and why her stans actually do her more harm than good.
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Just posted this for no reason
This is probably mostly true. However, it looks by the things she posted that she didn't have the proper permits for her animals and had to remedy that? Which shouldn't be hard to do for a normal person, but this is TND.
There's also the fact that Kronos isn't exactly tame and could be a danger. They might recognize that, lots of monitors end up in rescues because they're malnourished, stunted, and not handled properly. Even if ACS can't list off exact humidity/temp/feeding requirements, they probably know that much.
Most likely though, ACS can at least alert the property managers at her apartment complex to the actual number of animals she has in there. I'm not sure if they have to do this, but they may actually be required to. I feel like this is why Taylor is suddenly all about "moving out to avoid ACS." Maybe it's actually because the complex finally found out how ridiculously crammed full of potential flood, fire, escape, and health hazards that apartment is and is threatening to evict her.
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that hair loss tho
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Inb4 im accused of self-posting I just want to document this in case she actually says something lmfao
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just fucking say something if ur going to vaguepost and be all woe is me forever?
she also deleted all of her videos off of her youtube w/ the petfest crew.
girl now is the best time to post ur video while taylor's newest video is still relevant so you can get in the recommended. please fucking deliver
Some of y'all got your panties in a bunch. So she's finally decided to commit to giving a statement about TND, cool. Let her collect her thoughts/film/edit/type and whatever. Then we'll see if it's actually anything of substance.
Depending on, this might involve more than just Taylor.
before petfest i only followed taylor and emma, but breez/bree? was always kissing emma's ass and they became friends before petfest and met there i think. >>610247
yeah ur right, i apologize. i'm dumb impatient
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Petty paige just had this exchange w tay tay.
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Cut off the top a bit.
lmao almost. Supposedly an old lady had took them from a construction site and was giving them away or something.
So Taylor the Savior adopted them.
Doesn't she make videos on shit already happening and shit that has absolute proof and hate from a lot of the community?
Taylor doesn't qualify as that. She may be popular, but compared to other 'scandals' and drama this is small and without much proof (especially if you have no idea what you're talking about), it's not worth the risk to start shit until the whole of youtube jumps of Taylor's back.
I think this has been a great wake up call for Taylor, but it will only last so long and her status as some sort of leader of this little group is doing her great good. That and our proof is mainly speculation, and it's hard to excuse seeing snippets compared to actually going to her house (even if we know that it's not the first time her animals have had no water). I'd love to see 'normal' people react to some of these images without much context and see if they come to similar conclusions or not.
I’ve been searching for posts of her admitting Ghost is a purebred ragdoll But found none.
Thing is I want to make a video explaining why he can’t be a mix with genetic charts (I studied biology and did a lot of genetics) and expose all the lies she said about him. I own a ragdoll and seeing her willingly take a baby from its mother pisses me off soooo bad I really need to address that because I can’t stand her minions protecting her.
But I don’t want to make a video if she admitted he was…
Sorry for the bad english, I speak French. And sorry if I didn’t post correctly it’s the first time I do.
I'm not sure if she admitted he was a pure ragdoll but she has said at some points she believes he's a ragdoll/Siamese mix or just a ragdoll mix in general, I have the latter one for you.
I find it a bit suspicious that a petco adopting out a 5 week old kitten didn't apparently know the pedigree of the cat they're adopting out.https://lolcow.farm/snow/src/1513904947591.png
// The speculation that he's a general ragdoll mix.
If I find more I'll get back to you, also don't worry you're English is great.
Petco works with rescues. Most of the time rescues don't know the pedigrees of the cats they get in. They get strays, mixed breeds and surrenders from people who have no clue what the cat's breed is.
There's a lot fishy about Taylor's story of how she got him but not knowing if he's purebred ragdoll or not really isn't. That's not uncommon if you get a rescue cat. Not that I'm saying she did adopt him from a rescue because I don't buy her story. Just saying not knowing his exact pedigree is not part if her lies about how she got him.
A lot of people are just hung up about the fact she somehow managed to get a purebred ragdoll from a petco adoption event. Ragdoll kittens range $400-$500 (sometimes $800) for a pet and over $1000 for a show quality.https://lolcow.farm/snow/src/1519882112712.png
Taylor also mentioned that petco were giving them out to foster so like,
If it is pure bred it pokes more holes in the story because from what I know, ragdoll breeders don't often give their litters away to pet stores and would rather sell them themselves to make sure vaccines and pedigree history is known.
Also who in their right mind would give away potentially thousands of dollars worth of kitten, and are still to young to be adopted, to a pet shop for the sole purpose of having someone else with possibly no experience to foster them.
Thing is… That is one hundred percent a ragdoll, there is no need debating about it and I can prove it to everyone. I don't care about the fact that she adopted a cat breed (hell, I own two so can't really throw stones here), what bother me are the lies and the hypocrisy.
She can't have had a purebred ragdoll from petco. Breeders have the ressources to find other mothers from colleagues/another of their own litters, or even bottle feed the kittens and in no way they will give it to an adopting center to be cared by stranger at such a young age, and loose all that money (mine cost me 1'500, say a litter has around 4-5 kitten you are looking at several thousands in loss), but I'll go ask the two breeders I know to see what they think about such attitude. But let's say she really has adopted it from petco.. then there's all the legal reasons she couldn't have bought it at five weeks and she is basically saying petco broke the law.
I feel the need to speak about it because it shows how much she lies and how far she goes to lie. It's not as if she made a mistake and covered it up, she just lied because she wanted to. I do not know about reptile care, so I can't speak up for them. But I know about cats, and if exposing some lies can bring up people to reconsider her actions then it would have been worth it.
So guys… good or bad idea ? Considering I don't really care about being attacked by prepubescent minions.
Oh… and the fact it comes from a breeder would mean she willingly took him younger than what needed to be. When ragdolls are such sensitive and high maintenance… If she is willing to take such risks what else is she capable of ?
notice how in these tweets, taylor says she doesn’t want to share her relationship online but assures us that her animals are fine. she never says “he’s not abusing me,” or “we’re in love and happy.” just that her relationship isn’t affecting her animals. it’s just weird because i feel like people want answers about her relationship because of the abuse stuff… not so much about the animals. i wonder if she deliberately phrased it that way. it was a very cold and weird response.
>people are concerned due to frightening things theyve heard
she never once in that thread says anything like “people are concerned about rumors but theyre not true!!!!” or defends him or says that he’s not doing terrifying things to her.
i dunno man. just cold and strange.
but anon, then she couldn't flex about her $10,000 snake! /s
She could totally rescue reptiles, except that I'm not sure she'd pass an inspection/application. There's evidence she bought at least one snake off CL though (the one she claimed someone just happened to have and give her at a pet store but was also listed on CL) and I honestly wish she'd do that more often. It's not officially "adopting" but rehoming is still better than only buying from breeders IMO.
From what I understand you can get the types of snakes you want from CL pretty easily, especially if you're willing to drive a couple hours away. But if Taylor can't get fancy morphs, she probably doesn't want to do that.
I don’t care if she wants to drop big $$ on fancy morphs, it’s just the hypocrisy she preaches “adopt don’t shop,” yet, she clearly shops. I think that’s the biggest issue I have with her, instead of owning her BS, she makes up excuses and justifications.
If she had just said “yeah, so I wanted a fancy snake so I bought one.” Instead of trying to justify it, she’d be more likeable. Same thing with Johnny, if she just said “I’m in love with him despite x,y,z” instead of denying that “x,y,z” ever occurred, she wouldn’t find herself in this predicament.
I'm not trying to say she should be explicit about her abuse, I totally believe Jonny's an abusive asshole to her. But her options with the rumors are to:
1. say they're true and he's abusive
2. say they're false and he's not abusive
3. acknowledge the rumors but not really say anything either way
All I was trying to say is she's doing #3, she's not explicitly denying the abuse, but isn't lying and saying she's not being abused either. Not trying to say she SHOULD do #1
Also given how long it takes her to edit/upload, I wonder if Jonny's big event was just her filming this. Seems anticlimactic enough for them
Anon was saying that genetically speaking, from what Ghost looks like it's not physically possible for him to be a "mix" like she claims. And since he's definitely a purebred, there's no chance a 5 week old purebred kitten ended up at an adoption center. Two separate lies there.
It's more proof, I haven't heard anyone point out the genetics of that cat's appearance yet. But honestly we already have proof she didn't get Ghost from a shelter. The problem is just that no matter how much proof there is she manages to get away with her lies because her stans will support anything she says. And that's why her having a platform like this is so dangerous- you can't be untouchable with lies when you're 1 million teen subscribers are copying your "animal educator" pet care. >>610788
I agree with this. Her justification for buying animals is always "it's not like snakes are being put down in shelters like cats and dogs!" but that's not exactly true, there are more reptiles in need of rescue out there than there are rescues, anyway.
Speaking as someone who has volunteered for a reptile rescue in the past, honestly it’s complete bullshit that she thinks she isn’t causing harm by buying instead of adopting.
Not to suggest that people can’t make the decision to buy, I just mean that she can’t be preaching adopt don’t shop if she is going out of her way to do the opposite.
But yeah the reptile rescue was so over crowded that the animals were in bare minimum enclosures, recieving bare minimum care, because at least that was somewhat better than their previous conditions, and would hopefully be a temporary situation for them. We were spread so thin we had to start putting a surrrender fee on red eared sliders. Sulcattas with pyramiding like you wouldn’t believe after being fed diets of dog food. A water dragon that’s skin was burnt to shit. Majority of the diurnal animals coming in with metabolic bone disease, some cases so bad they couldn’t even open their jaws to eat. Axoltols that are emaciated, missing limbs, and covered in fungus and and ammonia burns. An asian water monitor, an aligator, and seven, SEVEN caimen.
Not that Taylors care would be an upgrade from overcrowded rescues, or that she should adopt giants or dangerous animals (please don’t). But her arguement that harm isn’t being done by chosing to buy is moot. Like go ahead and buy, that’s your decision Taylor and that’s perfectly okay, but get off your high horse.
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I don’t get why she says stuff like this. Reoccurring theme despite both of her children having multiple incurable conditions
FOP? just take a pain killer and drink plenty of milk it'll be fine.
I don't know if shed be an anti vaxxer or just someone who skipped out on health class.
I think people are taking this the wrong way. Either she's taking the piss out of these crazy people who think you can cure cancer by eating more broccoli, or she's just asking what if you could cure all disabilities with nutrients… she's never clear on her points and can barely string a sentence together, but having two children with disabilities I don't think she's inferring at all that you can cure all disabilities with proper nutrients.
Then again, she's bat shit crazy and seems like has something going on upstairs so what do I know.
I read that as her just saying she believes it helps with "some" disorders, as the person she's replying to says.
Maybe I'm just giving her the benefit of the doubt, I just can't see how someone with disabled kids can actually think consuming "proper" nutrients can cure all ailments.
>>610991>I just can't see how someone with disabled kids can actually think consuming "proper" nutrients can cure all ailments
They're the most likely people to think this, just like people with cancer are the most likely to fall for snake oil scams, people are stupid when they're desperate and will try anything as a last resort. If it's genetic and incurable, that means there's something inherently wrong with their genes and by extension your genes and there's no way to control that. If it's something trivial like diet then it's fixable and there's still hope and also not as much their fault.
People like believing they can make a difference. It lessens their guilt and gives them hope.
the way she says "what if… what if…" along with the photo, it's if she's saying that people with "physical ailment" or lack of nutrition, and "psychological distress" or lack of energy should consume better food but she's saying it in a way like "GASP!! Proper nutrient can better your body?!"
If she is then lol because she gives her own son soda.
This is exactly it. Even family members who logically understand the nature of incurable illnesses or illnesses like cancer without 100% cure rates can slip into that way of thinking sometimes, that they support their disabled loved one but they're still kind of waiting for a magic cure. Add in Jen's low IQ and whatever mental illness she's got going on and she probably really does believe in magical diets and such.
Maybe she wants to be the one to "save" her disabled kids. Maybe she's where Taylor gets her unhealthy savior complex from.
Does money count as a logical reason?
If not, no there is no logical reason.
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Jonny manhandling ghost while taylor sleeps in the background. He keeps shoving his hand in ghosts face who is clearly stressed by it
not Snapchat my bad lol
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What the FUCK you were right
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First of all HATE how Jonny treats his cats, looks rough. Speaking of rough, Taylor… girl…
Blogposting but my friend has a ragdoll who's an asshole. He'll bat at and bite anybody, even his family.
Just cause that's an expected trait from the breed, doesn't mean that every individual is that way. I kinda hope Ghost is that way too, so JC can learn a lesson about manhandling animals.
That being said, Taylor doesn't show ant of her animals enough for anyone to know what their personality is like. Contrast with Jenna Marbles, who shows each dog's personality through her videos
New Lurker here.
Not to whiteknight or anything, but it is possible that Ghost isn't purebred. I can't say it's likely that he isn't because we don't know anything about the parents.
Studying genetics has been a hobby of mine for a couple of years, and while I'm less familiar with cats, it works the same as with humans. Ghost is a blue pointed cat. So basically that means he's a black cat with a gene that dilutes his fur into a blue-grey color. The point gene (Himalayan gene) causes the warmest areas of the body to lose their pigment, making the face, tail, ears, and paws still have that darker color. And at this point, due to all the stray cats and improper breeding, the pointed gene is no longer exclusive to particular breeds.
If you have a purebred ragdoll for instance and breed it with another cat who does not have the pointed gene and is not a carrier, you'll produce kittens that carry the pointed gene but don't appear to be pointed. If you were to breed that cat with another carrier, you have a 25% of producing a pointed cat. Breed two pointed cats together, you will only end up with pointed kittens. Breed two cats who don't have the pointed gene at all in their line, you will not receive any pointed kittens. The point is, if Ghost's parents had the pointed gene somewhere in their pedigree and they at least carried it, there is the chance Ghost is just some mix. Only issue becomes the diluted gene that makes Ghost a blue point and not a seal point, so that makes its chances of just occurring between two random street cats pretty slim. The diluted gene works the same way as the Himalayan gene.
Although this is all irrelevant because Ghost wasn't some rescue kitten, he was the offspring of an irresponsible breeder who gave that kitten away at 5 1/2 weeks old, since Petco wouldn't do that. Just thought I'd point it out though, since we can't one hundred percent confirm he is a purebred ragdoll or not unless the parents and their genetic histories are known.
Doing heroin and coke was confirmed in the first thread in those texts to Chelsea. >>>/snow/438560
is the link to the first thread.
In a later thread is a video of Chelsea's friend scrolling through the texts on her phone, proving they weren't faked.
Taylor said "we keep getting high on coke and heroin." She also said, "we smoked the heroin not injected," we meaning both Taylor and Jonny.
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This is very interesting. This was filmed right before she killed Cheese. As I mentioned in my imgur album, she spent almost $2,000 on stuff for the 150 tank and then approximately 4 days later he was dead. I haven't watched the whole video yet, but she doesn't seem to be giving any indication anything is wrong with the tank that she's treating like she did in her excuse video about why he died.
Can't comment on a lot in her new video because I've never had a saltwater tank and I only know freshwater, so hopefully a saltwater anon can say more. But I do know water chemistry. Taylor talks about "high nitrites or high ammonia" and getting a product to"keep the nitrates and nitrites down" like that's regular. We already know this girl has no freaking clue what a cycle is in a tank, but it's as obvious as ever here. In a properly cycled, not overstocked tank, you should NEVER have ammonia or nitrites! Just nitrates, which you should remove with water changes in a saltwater aquarium, not rely on products to do it for you.
Also this video, in which she shows off $2000 worth of reef tank supplies and talks about changing things in her tank, like filter media and pH, was filmed shortly before Cheese died. Changing that much stuff couldn't have been good for him, was dosing with fluconazole even what really happened, or did she kill him because she raised the pH too much, and lost the cycle? Or did he not do well with the new wavemakers or some other random thing she didn't set up properly? It would explain why she never learned how to pronounce the medication despite "researching for two months" or whatever if she lied about the whole thing.
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Who is she talking about here?
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Same anon. Just saw this tweet which is even more suspicious. In the video she claims the haul was the day before she's filming, so she's roughly filming on the 14th if the haul was approx. the 12th. But in this tweet she's claiming the filming was hours before he died. But he died on the 16th.
Emzotic had something similar happen before too, I think she lost 2 fish but she did try to heat the tanks up so eh.
She's missing the point to save herself here and try to start some shady shit with everyone else.
I agree that it seems like he tried to help Frank… but I disagree that it being poor breeding guaranteed his death at 2 years (for a fish that lives 10-15).
He makes an awful lot of excuses, just like Taylor does… oh it's the breeder, it's not me…
Frank's belly was never /that/ distended. It totally looked like he had some kind of parasite imho. And King of DIY now has so many fish (with Frank being one of his least favourite), so it's quite obvious he was likely neglected to the point where trying to save him did little to nothing. It'll be interesting to see what becomes of Francine.
Along the same lines as Taylor he's also quickly bought a replacement.. oh and Frank died in OCTOBER. He could have made videos on Franks recovery / Frank being sick etc. He didn't… that's completely shady and Tayloresque.
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This reads like “I’m not starting drama i just wanted to make this about me once again and how i get bullied!!!!!!”
Exactly. A winter storm blowing your power is inevitable and expected in some places, but you can't do anything other than have backup power.
Blowing the circuit in your apartment IS your own fault, considering how much she has in that room. Also, the story goes that there was a malfunction while she slept for 12 hours, she checked on them, and then she left for 10 hours. It absolutelt WAS preventable (if this story is what happened)
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Idk why we need a kf cap of a post from a live thread
His video about his fish's death was pretty transparent compared to hers. Although since I'm not a fish expert, I can't comment on good his treatment of Frank's condition was. But unless someone who knows their stuff can tell me differently, it looks like he at least tried and did video document some of it.
Taylor spent a lot of time blaming everyone else and talking about how she did everything right. Then made a cringey funeral video that was nothing more than a disrespectful joke towards poor Cheese. So of course she has to make a big, fucking deal out of it. But even if Joey didn't care that much about Frank, his video was way classier than hers.
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She was supposed to be at that Pettube meet up today.
Damn. Yet another event where she's letting fans down by not showing up, when she's listed as definitely going to be there
and has the biggest following of all of them and probably the most fans hoping to meet her. Has she said the reason why she wasn't there?
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Taylor still at it with the kid friendly content. How is she okay with half her titty popping out like that?
It’s because this video was ‘boring’ in her and her viewers eyes. It’s not these kinds of videos that have attracted her large following which is why she’s stuck making the same MEET ALL MY PETS videos over and over. Most of her viewers don’t care about how to care for the pets she has they just wanna see something exciting. When I saw this video I thought it was her trying to rebrand her channel back into something less problematic
, which is ironic considering she was shitting on educational channels saying she would much rather be entertaining.
wow I missed that, excellent point. In her cheese video she made it sound like she's had this algae forever, she said she's constantly scrubbing and removing in, and that's why she finally decided to dose for it.
At this point I'm about 100% sure she didn't even dose meds, she just killed Cheese with poor water quality and made up a story.
Oh jeezs she must think her fans are retarded and wouldn’t catch something like that…
If a video anon does another comparison video, it would be really good to show her saying what caused cheeses death, then her at 14:30 saying “MY tank doesnt get algae” lol
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graphic design (…and spelling) is my passion
Pet related MOST POPULAR CREATORS?!!! In their own minds maybe…
Tori Lynn, 35,622
And missing Lori, 33,989
There are a lot more pettubers with more subscribers than these Taylor ass wipes!!
Ok but Taylor that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
A blizzard is a force of nature. If it knocks out your power then there's not much you can do until the power comes back on unless you have an industrial generator that can power your whole system.
Versus you who caused the outage by overloading your system and then didn't stick around to monitor your tanks after.
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She says the power goes out when she's asleep, and she says it's out for around 12 hours.
We can assume that she was sleeping for at least 12 hours.
She than says when she returned 9-10 hours later to check.
Regardless of where she was during that time (sleeping or out), not checking on them for 10 hours after a power malfunction is pretty neglectful. This is especially important because it's not like she left the house to go work. Maybe she had meetings or appointments but I don't think I'd be comfortable leaving my animals for 10 hours after a malfunction like that.
the timeline of this indicates that she routinely only checks on her 30+ animals twice a day. Once in the morning and once at night. She checked on them at night, went to sleep for 12 hours, woke up in the morning (or early afternoon) and realized something was wrong with the power. Then, instead of paying more attention after a malfunction, she came back to check on them that night like she usually does to do the bare minimum care of feeding them, and turning off the lights. That's when she noticed the dead animals.
that is, if this is even what happened at all. There was that one person on Twitter saying (before Taylor's story even came out) that there wasn't even a malfunction at all and she just killed her animals through neglect.
Bet she didn’t show bc her kratom wouldn’t make her feel good enough to travel. I’ve noticed she’s been traveling to further places less since Johnny moved in and she started allegedly
Jesus, I went back through the thread and saw those 4/5 pics with kratom in them. How does she check on her animals often enough if she's spending 6 hours on the john every day to pass lumps of coal after popping kratom pills like candy? That can't be good for her bank account, either. It's also super weird that she'd show off her drugs like that.
I am genuinely concerned for when her income starts declining and the frivolous spending catches up with her. It's migraine inducing to think of rehoming that many animals, exotic animals no less.>>611823>Okay, first off, how does Taylor not notice how redundant she is when she edits? She’ll say the same thing like five different times the same exact way. I just don’t get it.
Gotta pad the run time for the $$$
>I feel like he was showing signs of being ill at the time she filmed or he was already dead and she lied about the timeline.
I wonder if he was looking weird or sitting on the bottom of the tank and she went on with the video instead of tending to him.
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her usual excuse..
Pet stores usually don't carry the adoption papers themselves since their adoption events are through local shelters, but she'd definitely be able to get it from the shelter. >>610049
It's actually less unlikely than you'd think. If the shelter is full and the shelter is a kill shelter, they would likely euthanize kittens on arrival. It seems silly because they're quick to get adopted but it's the unfortunate truth.
However, she should also have known Cowfish can secrete their toxin if they get too stressed out, and she should consider herself lucky Cheese didn't secrete any and wipe out some of her other fish. Playing with that stuff in saltwater aquariums is dangerous business. Not to mention she kept Cheese in her 150 gallon when the minimum requirement for Cowfish of his species is 250 gallons.
only affects her when she has to work. never when there's anything she wants
to be doing.
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I just threw up a little in my mouth…would love to use the emoji!!!
Maybe she's buying followers?
Still think Tay tay could kill a stuffed toy
Quite simple. First, she is conventionally attractive. Second, her content is more entertaining than educational. Third, her channel had Cheese as a mascot; she made a meme of him, similarly as it was with her famous hedgehog. Fourth, she is open about her depression and health problems.
It attracted a lot of kids to her channel, and they're not really high-maintenance. It's much harder to create interesting content for more mentally mature viewers.
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Her fans are rabid and impulsive which what do you expect, they are children. Which is understandable for someone to stress out over or let get to them.
My advice for video anon would to not pay any attention to them and remember they are just young, impressionable, gullible, and emotional children. Some of the comments on the video are people thanking video anon for showing them the truth, that's huge.
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Someone's looking for upvotes…
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Love how Bunny R here goes from articulate condescension to "dumb f"
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>>"Here's my issue with YOU."
>>"I don’t have problem with you as a person, I just have a issue with your content."
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In regards to "the kitten in the ads looked nothing like Ghost" argument, I present this photo I dug up from the early threads + edited with later picture of Ghost for comparison.
Saw a holly brown call out video with comments disabled but a mirror with comments open was up on porn hub.
The uploaded said they wanna see how far people are willing to go to defend their god and it makes me wonder if Taylor’s fans would be ballsy enough to make accounts on sites like that
The more people speak out, the more valid their views become. They'll eventually get tired of defending their 'queen' & move on.
Nta but I’m 99% sure Taylor’s been using the kratom as well (and you really only use kratom if you’re a previous/current heroin/opiate user). The reason anons think that is bc she posted those kratom pics when johnny was away on a national tour for his band. He brought his shit with him, so why would the bag be open right next to her during the extended period he was gone? Also, looking at the pics, she was moving the bag around to different areas of her home. As well as her posting the pics while simultaneously posting many multiples of times about how “sick”, “ill”, feeling like total shit, etc she felt, but when someone asked what she was “sick” with she said she had…. an eye infection lol. A lot of the “sick” posts sound verbatim what heroin addicts say when they’re withdrawing. She cancelled traveling at that same time too. And the posts started when Johnny left.
Johnny most likely buys the drugs like Luna’s boyfriend does, then gives her kratom when he’s traveling by she’s either too much of pussy to buy it herself, or he won’t let her see his dealer alone.
Weirdly whenever he’s out of town or touring she’ll post on her snap and IG how she’s “sick” with a ~mysterious illness~ then when he comes home, not one “sick” post ever.
It’s pretty obvious that a current heroin addict (who Taylor and Johnny kept posting about how Johnny was ~so sober~ for months, extremely adamant and defensive when ppl questioned his sobriety, posted TONS of times about how he’s sober; only to admit he was using the whole time months and months later, but that hes ~forreal getting clean this time~, then never addressed the lies) who lives with his gf, used for around a year in front of her at their home, still to this day does drugs in front of her, probably gives his gf some of it too. It’s very very uncommon to have one completely sober partner who has never done drugs, living with an active heroin addict and not be influenced by it. ESP considering her posts and the area they live in which has plenty of heroin dealers.
She used to travel pretty far to other states for week or two at a time, but now will only do so if Johnny comes with her, and not that far anymore, for a very short period of time, and will drive there now (as opposed to flying, which she used to do. Ie: can’t bring drugs with you on plane)
So the pics, posts, traveling, and lying about sobriety and using, also not checking on her pets for 10-14 hours at a time. All together looks sus af.
This is why I was so shocked to see all those pictures of the kratom.
You don't want to take that shit consistently. The side effects suck ass and you build a tolerance quick. There isn't any reason to buy so much of it unless you're taking it regularly. If you only take it at night or after working out or something you put it in your medicine cabinet like a normal person instead of having huge open bags sitting out all the time.
If they/she is truly clean off heroin and getting high off kratom, I bet some of her sick is the shitty side effects of getting high from the kratom. It's easy to take too much of it if you're used to "real" opiates and the tolerance builds so quickly you'd have to up your dose every day. Nausea, irregular bowel movements, acid reflux (from those expensive ass capsules) and so on. Withdrawal brings on varying degrees of anxiety for a lot of people along with headache and fatigue.
You'd think since she has so many health conditions already she'd want to steer clear of that. Regular kratom use vs heroin is basically all of the side effects with 5% of the high. Either she's a complete dumbass and gets high off this stuff regularly or she has heroin withdrawal often enough to warrant stockpiling kratom. Either way it looks very bad for her and I have no clue why she thinks it's a good idea to show