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No. 592820
21 year old "family friendly pet mom" Youtuber, her 32 year old junkie boyfriend Jonny Craig, and her creepy controlling mother.
Previous thread:
>>>/snow/723197The basics:
> Taylor is a notorious animal hoarder known for collecting 40+ rare and exotic pets and manhandling/mistreating them for the sake of her Youtube channel which has over 1 million subscribers. Several pets have died in her care, many more have fallen ill due to her neglect or disappeared after "rehoming" them. Fails to give proper enclosures for many of her pets, including overstuffing fish tanks, keeping her kittens locked in the bathroom, and her mouse and hedgehog in the closet.> Jonny Craig is the frontman of the band Slaves and is most well-known for being an outspoken abusive junkie. He has been in and out of rehab centers for a decade now and has been kicked out of multiple bands and off of tours for his behavior. He is usually homeless when he does not have a girlfriend to leech off of.> Several of Jonny's ex-girlfriends have come out with stories of Jonny's physical and sexual abuse, including rape at knife-point. His ex Chelsea confided this in Taylor when she and Jonny first started dating, in which Taylor's response was to laugh with Jonny and make a public spectacle of it.> Taylor loves to throw pity parties for herself and dodge around the real issues when faced with criticism about her husbandry, hoarding, and hypocrisy. She can never keep her stories straight and will tell outright lies only to contradict them hours later. Her fans are sycophants who only encourage her.Taylor's Links:
Twitter:
http://www.twitter.com/taylorndean Instagram:
http://www.instagram.com/taylorndean Youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaOTXKuQ-t-eTikY96B9n-Q Facebook (private:)
https://www.facebook.com/Taylor.Nicole.Dean Jonny's Links:
Twitter:
https://twitter.com/jonnycraig4L Instagram:
https://www.instagram.com/jonnycraig4lJen’s Links:
https://twitter.com/tamonandpumbaList of all Taylor's pets:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QNUksDcQk_cqLTkTFTiPjP2pCGBQgORyCesIIqvZ2Zs/edit?pli=1New Milk:
> Still never made an apology video for slandering South Texas Dragons> Adopted another cat, a female tabby, that she claims she rescued from traffic and a storm after many of the residents in her apartment block had been feeding and caring for it (and got it microchipped and spayed apparently) for two years despite previously claiming that no one in her building knew anything about the cat> Allowed the "stray" to wander all over the apartment with all over animals, gorge on the other cats food, without any regard for the stress of the other animals, transmitting FIV, heartworm, other parasites etc, as would be common in actual strays, but it's okay because she "doesn't have fleas!"> In her last video, she actually rambles about the dangers of wild caught animals and the parasites they carry, is totally incapable of seeing the irony in her never quarantining her new (and sometimes wild caught) animals, including a 'stray' cat> Claimed her lease was up in September and was going to buy a house, never happened> Admits to live feeding, and knocking rodents out with blunt force instead of a CO2 chamber> Mushu has been shown without much gill feathering left> Kronos has been shown with excessive loose skin, appears stunted> Claims she got the rats fixed, but still never separated any of them> Killed her Pacman Frog with malnutrition due to poor diet, killed the crocodile skinks with dehydration, claimed she basically cooked them all to death with their heat lamps totes by accident> Attempted to purchase two new crocodile skinks on the down low before a smaller pettuber ratted on the cover-up of the deaths> Right after purchasing new crocodile skinks, a cat and milksnake within a two week period of killing her other animals, she begins to make jokes about her new rat snake being an ‘uncooked noodle’ and her hoarding on twitter> Animals purchased in the last ~ month: Cat, Texas Rat Snake, Halloween Crab, 3 Rats, 2 Crocodile Skinks, Sinaloan Milksnake No. 592829
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No. 592854
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My gf doesn’t let me sleep and it’s having a panic attack, I’m better tweet about this!
I love when grown ass adults “don’t know how to deal with the panic attacks”
We all know he doesn’t care about his Sugar mommy
No. 592857
>>592854why is he tweeting about someone else's mental health? Even though Taylor loves the attention from it, I'd be pissed with my boyfriend if he aired this to the world
Also is there a reason we can't sage anymore?
No. 592858
>>592857I was thinking the same thing. Like it's not Jonny's information to share, but we all know Taylor will just tell everyone that she told him to if anyone asks about it.
I think no more sage because we're in pt now, not snow?
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No. 592860
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The snake enclosure close to be decent
No. 592861
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Looks like Star isn’t litter trained after all, I still can’t believe she was actually a stray, I think that’s someone’s pet.
No. 592863
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anyone see this comment from Jen? this family is so gross.
No. 592873
>>592859Taylor is so stupid. She claims she’s in a video slump, but here’s content she could’ve uploaded right here. I wouldn’t be surprised if she just didn’t want to make a video out of this because she’s scared her stupid stans will like those two more than her or find them prettier.
>>592861So Nemo is getting beaten up because she desperately wants to keep this supposed stray. Wow.
No. 592896
>>592859Notice there was no "before" photo. Just an after. What she is showing is a decent and
normal set up, so I'm just going to assume poor Violet was in some really shitty enclosure beforehand.
Tinfoil but Emilee saw this and offered to help?
>UpgradeAKA give them a correct and decent setup???
No. 592901
>>592854Sorry for blogposting, but as someone with mental health issues I would be livid if my boyfriend tweeted out to his audience that I was having a panic attack.
I really don’t know what Taylor sees in this POS.
No. 592918
>>592901same. Things like this are dealt with in private. What kind of person tweets this unless they want some kind of praise. Think of all the animal tubers out there who keep their private life… private. Meanwhile you have Taylor, her crazy family and man child boyfriend exploiting every ounce of their privacy.
As for being in a slump for making videos, this girl makes me sick, she literally has so many animals and can’t think of anything to film? No she has no substance, she barely knows anything about the animals she keeps. Just look at the channels who have been consistent with their uploads, for years and are barely known compared to her. Why do people support this hoe?
No. 592922
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Bit ironic don’t you think?
No. 592924
>>592922Not only is it ironic, why would you ask for advice from someone who's never even had the pet you want advice about?
Taylor can't even research the animals she does have properly, never mind animals she doesn't have.
No. 592925
>>592854All i get from this is, “i didnt get any sleep last night cuz Taylor kept annoying me with her “panic attacks” can someone tell me how to deal with this because it’s annoying tf outta me”
>>592863Jfc. Why does Jen approve of this type of language? Havinng mental illness or a disabilities isn’t an excuse to let people be ignorant
No. 592929
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>>592904According to Taylor, yes
No. 592932
>>592929It’s hard to tell from the picture but that enclosure does not look any where need big enough for a ball python 😬
Like it’s great that Violet has more enrichment and opportunities to engage in natural behaviours but that shouldn’t be looked at as an upgrade or going above and beyond. Mental stimulation is a nessesity as much as heat or water and her stans pretending like nit neglecting this portion of some of her snakes care makes her better than the average keeper is so unfortunate lmao
Taloyr, video idea for you since you were looking: reach out with people who have done studies on reptile mental stimulation and the effects of enrichment on captive animals and do an interview about what sorts of things can be done to improve care for captive reptiles: then record yourself implimenting those ideas and techniques.
No. 592935
>>592829Way to expose not only where you live but your exact apartment, Taylor.
>>592861>I want to keep you so stop marking your territory and injuring my other catsThe selfish bitch this woman is. If she really cared she'd rehome the cat instead of just hoping it'll sort itself out.
>>592863It makes me so mad that she brags on the stuff her son says like this. This isn't the first time she's posted something Tanner has said that he likely fully doesn't understand but picked up from Taylor/Craig/whatever TV Jen plops him in front of.
No. 592937
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I know we already know Taylor got her impulsuve nature off her mother, but seriously, why would you stop driving just to tweet this, let alone tweet it without even talking to Taylor about it first? She's like a child, it's so cringe.
No. 592956
>>592859I'm actually really glad her friends stepped in.
Emma's always had proper set ups without shelling out $15,000+ on enclosures.
No. 592957
>>592956Emma isnt a Saint either
The cheap clone just keep downgrading the enclosure of her pets to keep bringing more.
No. 592959
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Isn't that the biocube in the BG of her most recent photos of Duck?
No. 592961
>>592874Could just be dirty. I know my cat is really picky to the point where he won't use it even fi he has only peed once and we cleaned up the litter the best we could.
She has 3 cats and max 2 litter boxes, you'd have to be cleaning those every time they're used.
No. 592963
>>592961Some people say each cat should have two litter boxes
So she should have 6 litter boxes for them to feel comfortable doing in their own territory.
No. 592964
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Why does she keep holding her heavy bodied snakes like this? My god she can't even simply hold her snakes properly
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>>592959looks like it, lighting she uses has changed but that's it based on the size/shape/stand/filter on there.
Reminder she said she "gave this tank away". it contained the mantis shrimp, her lion fish and couple others. The first and last time she posted about her mantis shrimp was april 15th 2018. This was also the last time we had saw any of or heard anything about this biocube.
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>>592971I can almost guarantee he is dead. Wait until she lies saying "no you guys! I gave away the fish not the whole tank!" You can see there is something in there that doesn't seem to be any of those fish either. I also would love to see the "friend" she gave a fucking mantis shrimp to.
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No. 592985
>>592979Wtf does this even mean? "You should always adopt but I would only consider it if I find exactly what I want!"
She's not going to find 10k snakes in a shelter so this is such a useless statement.
No. 592992
>>592979She's so full of shit!!! There are always reptiles in such poor conditions up for adoption! She would rather just be selfish, probably doesn't want to spend her precious money on vet bills (even though she would drop thousands on a designer snake), and also probably has no idea how to care for a snake that is in poor condition because her husbandry wouldn't be helping it anyway!
So in her mind, reptiles are lesser than dogs or cats. They're both animals in poor situations that need help, Taylor! God, the ride never ends with her.
No. 592994
>>592979Yet she has so many species and morphs that she could have easily found for adoption, especially if she broadcasted that she was looking for them her fans could have helped her look such as her bearded dragon, leopard gecko, blue tongued skink, potentially even the milksnakes.
There's also plenty of mammals that need adopting but she's made no effort there either? Her hedgehogs, the rats, all of them purchased.
Just admit that you're impulsive and don't take the time to plan the animals you get in order to actually spend the time looking for some that need homes.
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I doubt they knew that she'd get 5 new pets every month lol
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I thought she was all about “adopting not shopping”
No. 593001
>>592996This sounds like shit lol. Never heard of an apartment allowing so many animals because it's someones "sole income". She probably lied and said she was an animal educator, like she did to that delivery guy and made it sound all very professional. Management probably has no idea she's just a hoarder nut who makes shitty youtube videos every month or so.
I doubt they realize how many animals she even has, let alone how many more she's acquired since moving in.
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>>592996She is lying! Not to blogpost but I've been waiting for her to slip up like this, since I work in realty, specifically as a landlord. Her landlord/rental agency can lose their brokerage license for allowing this as it is a risk for a number of disasters such as fire or flooding. Her stating that they 'made an exception' is complete bullshit. Especially since she lives in an apartment complex, the landlord or agency has to go through more regulations & precaution than if she were renting out a house. Specifically when it comes to animals kept on the property. Her landlord is liable for if a hot snake gets loose or if a fishtank breaks and floods or if a circuit is under too much stress & starts an electrical fire. She's a moron for lying so publicly, because its statements like this that give her landlord the power to evict her without too much hassle from a court.
No. 593021
>>592964Jesus christ Taylor, wrap it around your arm or better yet use two hands and get Johnny to snap a picture for you.
The way she holds her snakes is evidence alone that she has no clue what she's doing, i've seen children handle a snake with more care than her.
No. 593081
>>593066I think they were initially cool with it because the amount of animals she had was way less than what she has now.
Plus in past threads the complex got called several times and despite saying they'd "look into it", nothing ever came out of it.
I wonder if actual neighbors have said anything about this, probably not.
No. 593085
>>593081If you read her replies to other people's comments, it comes across that the apartment complex knows and doesn't give a shit.
I'm sure they were aware of the drugs as well. But so long as they get their $$$, all is well.
No. 593099
>>592947Nah, just guinea pig anon.
also, i might just be stupid, but what happened to sage? I can't sage.
No. 593101
>>593100ah, okay
that's pretty neat
No. 593102
>>593011It was published here a while back, she reads her threads… so…
It was probably written by a cowtipper anyway.
No. 593127
>>592932I don't get why she doesn't just buy the appropriate sized enclosure right off the bat. Why waste $ on 554257 "upgrades" when she can afford the best thing?
>>593000She's okay with buying as long as it's her that's doing the buying. Everyone else should adopt, though.
Being a vain person that doesn't wanna do charity is fine but the way she constantly spergs about poor animals in shelters, when she transparently never adopted and kept anything in her life, is extremely tiring.
No. 593157
>>593001I don't see how her apartment complex could not know that she has 30+ animals in there. It's got to stink in there. I feel for the other people on her floor who share her heating ducts, because their places must stink too. Too bad, because the complex itself is quite pretty.
I've often wondered if her on again, off again rental/house buying tweets have more to do with the management company wanting to get her the hell out of there. There isn't a lease in the world that would allow that many animals crammed into such a small space, it just doesn't happen. This 'sole income' BS is just that, bullshit.
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Oh goody, more creatures to bring into the hoard.
No. 593268
>>593265The ~spooky~ mantis must've inspired her. And yet, I don't recall any major updates on any of her current arachnids or bugs?
Speaking of, despite Cheese being her arguably most well-known pet, I don't know how long it's been since I've heard anything significant about ANY of her tanks.
No. 593273
>>593268She really is trying to rebrand herself hard as Cool Snake Girl. Aquariums, schmaquariums, who cares about stupid fish?
(I feel so bad for Mushu.)
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No. 593304
>>593157> don't see how her apartment complex could not know that she has 30+ animals in there. It's got to stink in there.The majority of her animals are reptiles, which don't really smell tbh.
She does have a couple of small mammals though, and since she got the rats though, hoooo boy.
>>593279Sorry for sperg but they're not significantly venomous. This is an American urban legend based on a really shitty paper and the fact that doctors cannot diagnose spider bites anymore than an entomologist can diagnose a staph infection. Doctors will diagnose any necrotic lesion the patient suspects to be a bite as a brown recluse bite, even in areas they cannot live. We have them in Europe, which is where they originate from, and they're considered mildly annoying housepests at worst. There are no confirmed records of medically significant bites occurring in Europe, despite the greater distribution and the fact they originate here.
It'd be funnier for her to get an old world tarantula like an OBT, her overconfidence would get put in check really quickly. Even a new world would be funny, she wouldn't get nailed but they'd flick hairs at her all day long.
No. 593306
>>593304she already has a tarantula named Cersei who does flick hairs at her.
why are you talking about venom? i read it as a joke about her being stupid and literally picking her pets at random based on how cool their names sound or somethihg.
No. 593316
>>593306>Loxoceles reclusaAnon I replied to is joking about Taylor getting a brown recluse. Anons joke hinges on Taylor being stupid enough to get a venomous species of spider.
>>593308I've smelled herp shit before; my beardie's shit absolutely reeks, but once it's dry it doesn't smell unless you stick your head in the enclosure. It gets less bad the longer you leave it; if he shits when I'm in the room I know about it, but if I come back after a day out I wont smell it if it's been there for a while.
>>593310Yeah, herp shit smells bad but it's in enclosed tanks. I'd take a room full of unclean snake tanks over one with a dirty cat litter box in any day.
No. 593321
>>593316ayrt right here, my joke hinges on Taylor being dumb enough to pick her arachnid based on the name, not sure why you're nitpicking over venom. Sorry to burst your bubble.
Maybe you're new to Taylor since you didn't know about Cersei? Taylor's not the best or the fastest at cleaning her pet enclosures, so yes. Pretty much a guarantee that her apartment reeks and that her neighbors are likely livid between the hoarding and the drug use.
No. 593325
>>593321My bad, entofag and I just don't think Loxoceles reclusa is particularly cool sounding so didn't pick up on it, assumed it was a stab at her lack of research.
I've been here since thread one and I'm the entomologist who called her out on the orchid mantis being a male. I forgot about cersei because she never posts about any of her old animals and is a hoarder. No need to be so passive aggressive.
No. 593326
>>593321I mean that and she also has some mammals which would require at least daily spot cleaning and a full clean every other week or so.
Reptiles are reptiles, the spot cleaning isn't such a large issue (especially with snakes) but once you get into the mammals you have a real mess.
No. 593336
>>593329Where did I say Taylors litter boxes are clean. I'm saying catpiss smells worse than reptile shit, in general. It was a hypothetical, not a statement about Taylor's apartment.
OP said her landlord must know about all of her animals because 30+ animals would stink, which doesn't make any sense given most of them aren't particularly smelly animals. If her apartment stinks of cat and rat piss, that doesn't change if she gets rid of all of her herps and has a reasonable quantity of pets, does it? her landlord isn't smelling the cat piss and thinking
>Wow, she must have over thirty animals for it to smell so bad! They're more likely thinking
>Wow this tenant is a lazy pos who never cleans out their cat's litterbox No. 593342
>>593336anon, calm down. have you ever been to a herp house at the zoo? particularly an older zoo? even they stink sometimes. this is not a dig at herps, it's just a fact, come on. when you have a lot of animals living together in a small space, it tends to smell, period. it's also the people who don't own them or live with them who notice the smell, whether it's mammals or not–when they're yours or when it's a part of your job, you stop noticing it. taylor's apartment is a whole lot smaller than my local zoo's herp rooms, just sayin.
you're acting like you're the one being called out and you're not. take it easy.
No. 593347
>>593342Not not calm dw, just a casual swearer and tone doesn't communicate well in text.
I'm not trying to say her apartment doesn't smell bad, but there's just no way someone is going to smell it and make the leap to her having all of those animals. Not until she gets to TV-show-hoarders levels of uncleanliness, anyway. Especially when all of the mammals she has smell much more strongly and cat litter is open, her rats are in a wire cage. Her mammals are probably the ones she has told them about, they're just going to assume any bad smells come from them. That's all I'm saying.
Also zoo departments smell bad because they crank up the heat and humidity in the entire building, not just in the animals tanks/enclosures. A lot of what you're smelling is damp.
No. 593362
>>593336Her apartment has to smell. Regardless of whether or not she cleans out her animals regularly, there is still that animal smell. Mostly from the mammals. Like when you walk into someone's house and can instantly tell they have a dog from smell alone? That kinda smell. Anyone who isn't accustomed to it will notice it immediately.
She has 3 cats now and they can STINK when they use the litter box, not to mention all the marking they are probably doing now from Star.
No. 593364
>>593362Please read this
>>593362How is saying
>Her landlord wont automatically assume she's an animal hoarder because her apartment smells like cat pissserially being conflated with
>her apartment doesn't smell at allI'm getting bored of repeating myself and don't think I can possibly be any clearer.
No. 593374
>>593369Yeah honestly it depends on the quality of the apartments. Some complexes you can smell everything your neighbors cook, some you can have a neighbor who smokes constantly and never be able to tell inside your own apartment.
I can't imagine she'd pass a landlord inspection if they had to actually enter it though, even if she cleaned just prior, the outlet situation alone has to be a disaster at this point. If the complex just had a fire elsewhere, you'd think they'd be cracking down on fire safety.
No. 593378
>>593316Taylor has already expressed an interest in hots tho? A venomous pet is a cool one as far as she's concerned, and technically almost all arachnids are venomous anyhow, just not toxic to humans.
I thought the joke was to do with the name being "exotic" and Taylor latching on to that because she's not very smart.
No. 593412
>>593265I just don’t understand the thought process behind this? “I have lots of time and know my limits uwu” bullshit aside does she not see how negative of a message this sends?
“Oh I have 40 animals already but none of them are new, despite my whining that I care for all my animals I only broadcast new shit and refuse to show the old”
No. 593413
>>593265I just don’t understand the thought process behind this? “I have lots of time and know my limits uwu” bullshit aside does she not see how negative of a message this sends?
“Oh I have 40 animals already but none of them are new, despite my whining that I care for all my animals I only broadcast new shit and refuse to show the old”
No. 593416
>>593265I just don’t understand the thought process behind this? “I have lots of time and know my limits uwu” bullshit aside does she not see how negative of a message this sends?
“Oh I have 40 animals already but none of them are new, despite my whining that I care for all my animals I only broadcast new shit and refuse to show the old”
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Another I’ve always wanted pet…
Also I haven’t been keeping track how long has she had duck?
No. 593436
>>593431I want to say when the house catches fire or they all die from mites or something but let’s be real she’d play oblivious to her own negligence and replace all of them with what ever money she has left.
I think she’ll only learn if a friend finally stops kissing ass and calls animal protection in concern or something escapes and causes hell to neiboughrs for several hours because she’s sleeping.
No. 593439
>>593419She only looks like she was better at it because she had Jen helping everyday, not to mention she also probably had a cap on how many animals she could own, partly because of Tanner having to be cared for, and partly because it's not the same to have most of your animals in your room and maybe the kitchen than to have them all over the place.
Her impulse control is all over the place now that she's on her own, which really sucks because she could actually cause an accident. The apartment she lives in, no matter how upscale, is not appropriate for the amount of animals she keeps cramming into it.
If one of her animals were to escape her apartment, it could get killed, or she could cause a fucking fire or power outage.
Like at this point it's gone beyond animal care into an actual hazardous situation where she's potentially putting other people at risk because of her sheer stupidity. No matter how you cut it, her living conditions are just not appropriate for all the animals she has.
No. 593474
>>593444Also because ll of her reptiles will need some form of heating and in small rooms the room will get hot very fast.
You have heat + some humidity + unclean cages = smell
The anon seems to b saying that just because it smells doesn't mean everyone knows which is reasonable. That being said, if someone walked into her house or room they'd probably know straight away
No. 593478
does she ever post about cleaning cat litter on those shitty quirky lists she makes? like, I have one cat and I have to clean her litter after like 10-14 days due to smell, and after a few months get a new box since the old one will also make it smell even worse
i cant imagine with her three cats she has one or two litter boxes she routinely cleans out, shes too fuckin lazy for that. it must be nasty in whatever room the litter boxes are in.
>>593268cant wait for the obligatory "guys ive wanted X bug for so long, its totally my dream to own one of these! ive always loved bugs!"
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nightmare fuel time
No. 593488
>>593483The fact that she actually put effort into this and is getting it out on time is mind blowing to me.
The premiere is going to be the closest thing to a livestream (like she used to do before moving) and the chat will be interesting.
No. 593490
>>593479>>593486Lol guys I'm pretty sure anon meant changing the litter boxes out every 10-14 days, not scooping. They should be scooped 1-2+ times a day, but you don't generally toss all the litter to replace with new and scrub the entire box daily. Plus it depends on the cat (like how big they are/how much they pee) and the type of litter, some need weekly some need less. When I used clay it lasted a solid 14 days before changing out for new litter, now that I use feline pine with a giant cat with kidney issues it only lasts about 7.
Either way, no I bet she doesn't change the litter out enough, and scrubbing boxes in an apartment is kind of hard without a hose so I suspect she just doesn't bother. We know she doesn't clean reptile enclosures or keep up with aquarium water changes, why would she bother changing out dirty litter regularly?
No. 593520
>>593518From what I remember anons have pointed out that Cheese hasn't grown in size like he should but it's more likely the second point.
She's dropping all that entirely to be the tattooed rocker model girlfriend with all the snakes while she flits around wearing lingerie as public appropriate clothing.
I just hope her apartment complex gets stricter after this fire and finds out how much she's hoarding. Her lack of impulse control is going to screw her over.
No. 593524
>>593488it's because it's all about her and only her so she HAS to get her beautiful image and face painting out there on time so all the world can see how pretty she is.
If we needed further proof she only cares about herself here it is I guess…
No. 593531
>>593523I'm in for fifty for the "Cheese is deader than fuck" pool, he's long gone.
>>593435If Taylor lost everything tomorrow, no matter, she'd be up and running the day after. She has loads of normie fans, and they'd help her get the word out that she was going to 'run a reptile rescue' or some such. Everyone's seen examples of 'rescues' which are just thinly veiled excuses to hoard. You've got to be at least partially fucked once you have upwards of 15 animals living in your home and tearing up your property. Snakes are a bit easier to load up on without anyone realizing, but the end result is going to be bad either way.
No. 593574
Since we’re on the topic of something potentially happening to Cheese, when I first saw this photo
>>592959 I thought that yellow thing looked like a really small cowfish. I didn’t say anything because no one else pointed out and I don’t know anything about keeping fish. It might just be a plant but does anyone with more knowledge thing it looks like a cowfish?
No. 593576
(Same person as above)
https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=434_1396492862THERES LITERAL VIDEOS OF HIM SHOOTING UP YALL AM I DUMB do you GUYS ALREADY KNOW ABOUT THESE
No. 593588
>>593587Not everyone reads all of these threads idk why you all get so mad.
If anything we're clogging up threads by replying to these people and having arguments about cat litter lmao
No. 593593
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>>593591>>593591>wonder why everyone is so damn mad up in here>'you fucking retard'jesus, chill. it's halloween, go eat a cookie or some shit.
(learn board culture) No. 593596
>>593594>fat junkiesLike Luna, basically.
But Johnny's going to die soon anyway so most of his bad looks are probably from that. Doesn't he have kidney issues and some kind of disease?
No. 593601
>>593596Don't forget Kadee.
If Johnny has renal disease he's pretty fucking stupid to be putting pressure on them like that. I know heroin is hepatic but I'm sure he gobbles benzos like candy, no one does one without the other anymore.
No. 593603
>>593596It’s terrible of me, but I can’t stop imagining the sob story Instagram post Taylor would make if Jonny died.
“He was not eating and losing weight for six months, but the vet, I mean doctor said this was normal and just give him soup. The doctor said I did everything right. Everyone says it’s not my fault he died. I got him from a really bad breeder.”
No. 593611
>>593603His death would
trigger the most intense buying spree ever seen.
No. 593614
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In other words she's too lazy to do the premiere thing. And doesn't want to risk a live chat.
No. 593639
>>593614it pisses me off so bad that she didn't just spell ou "central." you're two letters away sis just fucking type it out.
>>593619but that would just prove us right and you know taylor's the one who's always right, not us
No. 593648
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how kind of her.
No. 593657
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Everybody here talking shit about how bad the hairline on her ratty pink wig looked and bam - next time we see it she’s wearing a beanie. Hi, Taylor!
No. 593661
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Oh my God, her hair line. It’s so damaged.
No. 593677
>>593657In the heat of Texas…
>>593523Exactly. And who would be any the wiser!
No. 593694
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The way this cow and her minions joke about her terrible animal care makes me so furious.
One of them says off camera “Oh this cowfish husbandry is soooo terrible” because the pool water is too cold. To which Taylor makes this “joke”.
The fact that they have all of these in-jokes about mistreating animals is honestly gross. And the fact that she has the audacity to put them in her videos?!
No. 593698
>>593676Yeah as soon as Jonny came in and told her she looked ridiculous she started covering her face. I don’t like Taylor, but I have sympathy for anyone who has to deal with a POS S/O who knocks them down.
But then again, I don’t have as much sympathy for Taylor as I could since she was warned by multiple people about his abusive behavior.
No. 593711
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She also shared this on her Twitter.
Very family-friendly.
No. 593713
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jesus.
No. 593826
everyone keeps pointing out how star may need extra litter boxes for herself, but whos to say she isn't using the other cats litter boxes and being aggressive since new environment?
i guess according to the nutshow she cant really use litter boxes, but problems with ppl getting cats is that they dont understand 1 or 2 litter boxes normally doesnt even help with adopted/stray cats bc if they're aggressive or feel threatened they'll go use the other boxes to show dominance
>>593490>>593481>>593480>>593479>>593514yeah i scoop every 2ish days, i meant replace the litter entirely every two weeks because of how bad the stench gets generally, and scooping piss can be impossible sometimes.
>>593595didnt another anon point out how star or the other cats might be scenting since new cat environment too? absolutely fucking nasty
No. 593874
>>593872She actually tweeted this, I think.
Basically it was some stan making up facts about her.
No. 593887
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No. 593999
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Lol doubt
No. 594102
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Stuff like this has bothered me about Taylor from the beginning. While I’m not a snake expert by any means, I can imagine the reason he keeps “yelling” is that he’s just shed so he’s defensive and irritable, and her shoving the shed skin on his face in an attempt to keep this stupid yelling joke going is upsetting him.
No. 594152
>>594148she's trying to come off as his sultry, sexy woman who owns all these exotic animals but she instead looks like a cheap hooker in a brothel.
learn how to dress yourself, taylor. it's an interview for a magazine, not an interview to be a sex worker.
No. 594157
>>594144I couldn't care less what she looked like. What's alarming is her dismissal at the end, claiming that the hate she gets can be summed up by differences in opinion for animal care.
If she want to make the comparison to children/parenting: maybe read a few "parenting" books? Don't collect "children" to the point where you don't have the adequate amount of time to look after them?? So much so they DIE?!?!
No. 594183
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Queen my shiny white A$$!
No. 594239
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Most of the comments are like this.
No. 594255
>>594252https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/11/tour-youtube-star-taylor-nicole-deans-apartment.htmli opened this link awhile ago and can watch the video on it. havent refreshed the page tho
if its gone i still ss her address lmao
No. 594267
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Yeah the video is down, probably because of the doxx. Did anyone save/archive it, wish I could have seen all of it in action
Here’s the thumbnail at least
No. 594268
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>>594267Yeah it's down for me too… although no doubt they'll reupload it soon.
No. 594283
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Jonny's story is showing Cheese and their vacuumed carpet. Wonder who the real lurker is in that place.
No. 594312
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Okay so I got bored and started looking at reviews on her apartment complex and I found this.(lurk moar)
No. 594325
>>594220It really depends with EDS day to day. It's not like a "walk it off" kind of deal exactly. I mean I know arthritis isn't either, but moving definitely sometimes can make things worse, especially for those of us who get actual dislocations, because that requires actual recovery time or you can make things worse if your joints get inflammed. Taylor has never tweeted about a dislocation from what I can remember (though she reads here so what are the odds of her tweeting about it tomorrow lmao.) But not strengthening muscles over time or letting them weaken absolutely fucks up everything with EDS. I have a friend with EDS who had to lay in bed for 2 weeks after an emergency surgery, and she ended up developing a ton of problems from losing muscle and had to do a lot of PT for a couple months to get back in shape. Not that there aren't legitimately, permanently bedbound people with EDS, but they don't go walk around Disney or reptile cons when it suits them, so that's not Taylor.
Didn't her dad tweet ages ago about her missing doctors appointments and failing to pick up prescriptions once she moved in with Jonny? If she ever was doing anything to help herself, it seems like she's stopped now.
No. 594379
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No. 594393
>>594386please please screen record anon, also what
>>594391 said
No. 594422
>>594386Download obs
>add display cap>record>go to record folder>upload to video hosting site ez
No. 594424
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ok i know the video was deleted but imagine getting posted to a page with 3,5 million followers and getting 3 likes lol
No. 594448
>>594424I’ve read this headline at least 4 or 5 times and it doesn’t come across even remotely flattering.
Not to get too pedantic about words but I’ve never heard “Amassed” ever used in a positive way when it comes to animals. They’re not money or something you should be getting in large quantities of and the fact they didn’t use a more favorable word in conguction with “…and they’re all living in a two bedroom apartment” sounds like the headline is trying to grab people’s attention by it being a “spectacle” as opposed to something alluring or mysterious.
Like those strange addiction shows. It’s not necessarily meant to insult the person directly but it’s not exactly painting them in too much a positive light. More or less showing people something shocking they haven’t seen before.
No. 594450
>>594379Nice edit lmao
I feel like if NY mag pulled it only because of the doxxing thing, that’s a pretty easy edit to fix. Wouldn’t it be back up by now?
No. 594469
>>594457It’s pointed out in a previous thread rough neck monitors are placid and actually have a shy disposition which was why they’re popular.
What the fuck did she do to him to have him react like that? He wasn’t even going for the food he just went straight to her
No. 594485
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Her views have been so awful for someone with 1.5 million subs. She can't even get to 500k anymore.
No. 594489
>>594457Why is she out of the large mice/rats so quickly lmao?
The bigger the prey, the rare you should feed the animal really.
No. 594494
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>>594457>Oh her outfit can't be that bad. Surely she has some sense..Yikes.
No. 594497
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>>594494It just gets worse and worse. She did an interview looking like a bordello worker?
No. 594498
>>594497It's especially hilarious in contrast to the interviewer, who's turned out nicely and in an appropriate casual wear look, ahahaha
Like I get you don't get out much, Tay, or have any idea how to act your age, but this is some "I got dressed high in the dark" BS - or did Jonny pick her clothes?
No. 594503
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When they keep in you trying not to flash your panties at the entire magazine crew.
No. 594506
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I'm just amazed at how fucking oblivious she is. She's rambling on while the interviewer restrains one cat and the other acts like it could attack the spider the moment it moved.
No. 594509
File: 1541175583286.jpg (24.27 KB, 518x430, triggered.JPG)
>when they question your pet care after you admit to roasting your animals for hours
No. 594516
File: 1541178674885.jpeg (277.18 KB, 750x1130, image.jpeg)
I don't mean to derail, but I saw this on reddit and it looks identical to Taylor's, plus the suspicious account username
No. 594530
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I don't know why I made this(no contribution)
No. 594546
>>594457“Kitties, please don’t attack my spider uwu”
Just?? Close your door??
No. 594557
>>594457Wow, this video. She is out of her head. Comparing her animal hoard to kids is…gee, most people don't have fifty kids, so there's that.
I love how delusional she sounds about everything. Ehlers-Danlos is super rare! Except for the fact that every munchie in town has it. She's dumb as they get.
No. 594561
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>>594556then i hope Taylor isn't as careless as she tends to show
No. 594592
>>594513The way she was balling her is awful. Some hedgehogs dont ball up because it's uncomfortable for them. Obviously shown by how Ella was reacting and immediately unrolled. Also she was vigorously SHAKING her out of the log during the day.
Hedgies are nocturnal. She could have picked a different hedgie since obviously Ella was distressed.
No. 594594
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Does she have her learner's permit?
Or whatever it is you need in Texas
No. 594668
>>594625I liked all the times Taylor talked about how every penny she makes only goes back into the animals. She couldnt keep the lies straight in the VIDEO
First, it was that all the money goes into the animals when her channel blew up. That's when she quit Petco because she was making enough from Youtube.
Then, she only made "6,000" that year after taxes
"That tank is $15,000 lol"
"I never spend money on anything else"
"Pets are expensive"
"I don't make any money from youtube"
All while standing in a multi-bedroom apartment. A nice apartment. Who pays for all that then, Taylor? Or do you have some other magical source of income?
No. 594681
>>594625It's not that surprising to be honest. The only reason she got famous for was her "all my pets" videos.
You can honestly do so much with "all my pets" as your topic for content until you run out of ideas, especially if you don't bother to learn more about the animals you have.
Most of her income didn't even come from youtube. It was merch. Sponsorships are a somewhat recent thing. Besides, she's not exactly that quirky or funny to branch out into something that doesn't involve animals, and has a horrible schedule. At some point her most successful videos will start to tank as well.
No. 594684
>>594668"all my money goes into my animals"
> apparently bought a 20k bed> Cartier bracelet> fancy & pricey hotels every time she goes out> disneyland trip(s)> tour with crack head bf> lip injections> tattoos and hair dressers every other week> NEW animal every other day/week instead of pumping money into the old ones> Apparently wants to go to australia??> Expo whenever one happensYeah man I can totally see that it does
No. 594691
>>594688IMO People probably just lost interest.
She doesn't upload frequently and her content is more or less the same.
She doesn't even know much about animals and it shows.
I wouldn't call her an educator.
If she actually go to school and learned real knowledge about animals it would probably expand her platform, but why learn when you can google it.
No. 594696
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>>594692It was after snake september when she wasn't uploading shit though, just seems really weird and sudden that she gained 5k in an hour
No. 594750
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Not to mention the new PS4 she had waiting for him after tour, all the funkos, and all this.
Either she’s buying it all for him or he’s spending any money he has on this without helping her pay for anything like food or rent
No. 594754
>>592862Dear god, no. I had a friend whose mom did exotic animal rescue and she ended up with two capuchin monkeys. They require a lot of work and will get aggressive if you don't treat them well. They go right for the eyes, too, if they attack you.
As much as I'd like to see a monkey poke Jonny in the eye, no…just no.
No. 594954
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I can't think of many apartment complexes that are ok with tenants breeding roaches
No. 594955
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y'all were talking about how her views are going down because she can't get her shit together but little do we all know it's actually just the algorithm guise.
No. 594959
>>594955Her snake videos are boring as heck.
Two of her latest videos are titled the same thing, best beginner snakes.
It's not as if she knows either, because she's had snakes for barely even a year.. but she bought a couple books from Barnes and Noble and suddenly she's an educator. Snore.
No. 594975
>>594955The algorithm has had some tweaks that make it harder for creators to engage, but to be honest, a million subscribers is not that big of a number in this day and age.
Plus subscribers are prone to forget about a channel if it doesn't upload videos regularly. If she wants to get the same amount of views as before she'll have to keep on buying animals and do all my pets videos forever.
No. 594981
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You mean the one you were going to turn into a mental health channel over a year ago but never did?
No. 595004
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No. 595008
>>594981I really wonder what she ever thought qualified her to have a mental health channel in the first place. Does she think she's the only youtuber with mental illness? Half the youtubers I watch have some sort of mental illness, outside Pettube. They may make a video here and there talking about their health, but it's not their focus unless they're actually qualified to give people advice because they have degrees or work experience in a related field or something.
If she ran out of ideas for pet videos with 50+ pets, how did she expect to come up with topics for another channel? "All my mental illnesses!~!!" aren't going to get her views like "all my pets" does lmao.
No. 595010
>>594985Yup.
"And this is Ariel, because I really really like The Little Mermaid, it's like me favourite film ever. And this is Scar, because I really really like the Lion King, and I like the villains because they're misunderstood, and their hearts are black just like me."
No. 595016
>>595004Were these the dubia roaches she was originally gonna breed as food for her reptiles?
She’s well into border mentality if she’s now going to keep the feeder animals she breed…..
No. 595044
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she had to have gotten her lips done again. I don’t know why she gets getting her top lip done it looks SO much bigger than her bottom lip
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It seriously looks like she’s been stung by a bee… she should put that money towards animal care
No. 595109
>>595102Holy shit I didn't even believe she said that cause I must have missed it before finding this comment
>>594151If people still think she isn't a compulsive liar, then I don't know what to tell them! That alone is less than she spent on her designer ball python! So it should be next to how much she spent on that, plus how much she mentioned she made from sponsors in one tweet, too. God, her lying is getting worse. Then she wonders why nobody believes her about anything ever.
Also I'm surprised there was no milk from Emma and whatsherface visiting, I guess besides her making a fool of herself and Jonny making fun of her in her Cheese makeup.
No. 595125
>>595111I listened back, and to quote her, she says "every single penny I made last year went right back into my animals, so I didn't profit anything from anything I did last year" and then "at the end of the year after taxes I made 6 thousand dollars and that was it". Doesn't really sound like she's just talking about ad revenue.
>>595109Honestly she probably sees 10k on a snake as "going back into her animals", bitch that's just buying another animal. She could have spent that 10k bettering the lives of the poor animals she already has.
No. 595130
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Did her IG go down again?
No. 595135
>>595130No it’s up she blocked you
Did you comment on her pictures? Because if so it should have been obvious… we’ve seen her block people that ask questions about her animals. She removes and blocks negative comments constantly.
No. 595136
>>595126Oh okay, I see. You're right. If she didn't profit, that's her problem. A lot of her money definitely does
not go towards all of her animals. Most of her animal's enclosures are bare or very minimal… So, she's still a liar. She could afford such beautiful enclosures. And I'm talking about the inside, y'know, where the animals live? Not an expensive shelving enclosure thing.
No. 595137
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Remember when Taylor was still a human being?
No. 595138
>>595125she says that she only made 6k
last year but that "things started to take off this year" or something along those lines. so idk she probably didn't make as much, though I'm not sure how much less. did she buy a bunch of stuff last year? I didn't really follow these threads last year, if they were around. but I know she's bought a ton of junk this year
No. 595140
>>595138Last year she bought the Cartier bracelet. I remember because that was before she moved.
>>595130If you took screenshots of her story she could tell. Probably blocked you from that. Which means she also happens to be lurking so hi Taylor.
No. 595153
>>595146I think it could be a good idea to include just how many pets she actually has because we rarely ever see all of them, i'm sure there are lots of people who don't actually know how bad her hoarding is.
Like i was going to say to mention about how she often drops her animals due to poor handling, like her halloween crab, and then i remembered she got another one which i'd totally forgotten about. We haven't heard anything about it since she got it, just like lots of her other animals which is worrying.
No. 595160
>>595044 I know this is nitpicking but she keeps talking about how much she wants her hair to grow. It's never going to happen if she doesn't stop using heat on it and causing all this excessive breakage.
>>595125mte about the fucking $10,000 snake. How much has she spent on snakes alone in the last year? $20,000? I do not feel bad for you taylor.
>>595146for sure the ordeal with the bearded dragon. Also the axolotl which is essentially in a crock pot on low heat. For each situation you should be able to find tweets, ig comments and facebook posts of her contradicting herself. She's going to be an anxious mess until you release the video lol.
No. 595167
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>>595161I don't mind going back a while, but I would prefer to go only with things she hasn't full on admitted (she said on twitter that "it happened just that one time and we dont even smoke anymore!!!!").
I will need to see how long the video is and then add stuff according to that.
This is what I have so far, feel free to tell me whatever you think needs to be said
No. 595173
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No. 595174
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No. 595198
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Who wants to bet these videos won’t be up by tomorrow or Wednesday - if they make it up at all?
No. 595218
>>595216I'm actually facing the exact same problem with the series thing.
Now it kind of feels stupid if both of us work on the same video lol
No. 595225
>>595167Please include all the evidence of her buying the new skinks and being tagged in the photos by the breeder before it all went down and she had publically said they died
And the whole thing with her new cat not adding up
No. 595227
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Why is he laughing so hard? Because he called her queen and she looks like hell?
No. 595253
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No. 595275
>>595137Wait… that's a picture of taylor (i'm guessing she's the one in the middle)? What the fuck happened?
imaginary sage, i am genuinely shocked.
No. 595281
>>595089Animal control won't know anything about axolotls, most likely. I've seen people at petstores try to sell them with heaters- lots of people just don't know enough to tell bad care with exotics. I could see animal control being concerned about her breaking the pet limit on her lease, her rats/hedgehogs, her cats, and the general mess and smell, but they either won't know about or can't do anything about her care. Wrong temps/setups, feeding animals wrong (like snakes too often,) having them in subpar enclosures, doing snakes in tubs, etc. isn't enough for AC to step in, I don't think.
>>595275>>595277According to the other exes, drugs, addiction, and being in that toxic relationship with Jonny remove any of your actual personality until you manage to get out. I'd almost feel bad for her, except that she went in knowingly. Her poor animals didn't.
No. 595290
>>595102>>595125She probably took as many deductions as she could, eg. the $15k enclosure. The more deductions, the less taxable income.
I highly doubt she prepared her taxes herself, but if she did she could have screwed up a la Greg.
No. 595420
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No. 595442
>>595438taylor can't even spend a few hours recording and editing youtube videos. what makes her think she can livestream? it's a lot harder because there's no editing, no retakes and you have to be engaging and entertaining the entire time.
i doubt they'll make any money from this. at least not the numbers they are expecting. maybe at first some stans will tip just so their snake queen mom can say their name but that novelty will wear off quick.
No. 595448
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No. 595459
File: 1541428509681.png (6.07 MB, 1242x2208, tnd.PNG)
This is an old pic, but i didn't know about lolcow when I saw mama dean post this. Has anyone ever posted this old pic of taylor? Look at her lips…
No. 595477
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No. 595484
File: 1541434386925.png (1.63 MB, 1242x2208, tnd3.PNG)
No. 595510
>>595484Well I mean she fucking battered the shit out of that bracelet. A couple months in and it was already scratched to hell and back. Plus I bet a lot of her animals kept biting it too since she kept holding them with that hand to show off the bracelet. Serves you right, moron.
To be honest I think her parents might have had some sort of fund or savings account for her. She’s so useless her dad has to fill her taxes so it would make sense if they gave her the money that would’ve gone into college or something.
No. 595512
>>595510"OMG, this overpriced geegaw that I haven't taken care of properly like, broke?!"
That's So Taylor. Seriously, she's just like this with her animals, too.
No. 595529
>>595448total ot but what is he fucking complaining for? why the fuck did he race through the main sl? i'm still at the first camp because i keep fucking off and skinning/herbalising(wtf)/doing random shit. leave it to a junkie, man, they're never fucking happy with what they have right in front of them, miserable people.
bringing it back on track, i'm actually super frigging hopeful that she loses those dubia she's 'breeding', don't worry about the so-called breeding you silly bitch, worry about what you feed them so that they're high in nutrition for your other neglected pets.
prediction:TND and her exploding apartment of roach breeding will single handedly cause the dubia to be outlawed in TX just like they were in the other state filled to the brim with irresponsible herp owners, FL. that, and she'll feed them too much dog and/or cat food because she's both lazy and stupid, which will lead to the herps getting gout.
No. 595530
>>595525I was talking about how she said she only got 6k in the year, but was getting 10k per sponsership so more obvious lies and contradicting herself again.
But I do agree that spending money on more animals isn't putting money back in to her animals though.
No. 595532
>>595512holy shit anon, "geegaw". "bijoux" is another one.
You are my favorite. More og phrases, in any language, please.
geegaw > gucci. fite me irl.
polite sage for total irrelevance
No. 595543
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What are the odds her bracelet would break exactly 1 year since purchase?
No. 595547
>>595529She'll never even get around to breeding the dubia, she's going to get a bacterial overgrowth in there because she has no idea how to clean a roach colony. The die-off will be merciless. When that happens, it's definitely going to stink to high heaven.
Use cleaner crews, Taylor. They'll do the work for you and you're so lazy that it'll be to your benefit all the way round. You're welcome.
No. 595559
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Who is shocked that Taylor's new roach video IMMEDIATELY begins with her making sultry poses at the viewfinder with the roaches crawling over her hands?
No. 595561
>>595555She only moved into her apartment in September of last year, so to be fair, she could have had a much smaller income because she was living at home and pet supplies etc. could be labelled as business expenses.
I still think the $6000 after taxes is bullshit mind you.
No. 595564
File: 1541446939584.jpeg (341.08 KB, 1236x1659, 2EA60C18-CED5-40D7-A7C9-F4CFA3…)
Sure, Jan.
No. 595571
>>595564She has an official EDS diagnosis? That's incredibly difficult to get, since due to the rarity most countries have only a few certified doctors. If she also had one she would know laying around is the worst thing you can do if you have EDS.
You also don't get prescriptions for EDS. The only way to treat it is through physical exercise (such as weightlifting) and physiotherapy. It is after all a collagen mutation.
No. 595575
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>>595559First video I've ever seen of hers. I agree with anon
>>595565 she does seem very shakey and unnerved. Not sure if she's just nervous with handling the roaches or grossed out OR it's from being on drugs.
Only bit of entertainment I got out of this video was pausing every once and a while to see her plastic face malfunction.
No. 595581
>>595569Sure, some people know that, but to the average fan, don't you think it's weird that her partner wouldn't care for the animals if she's asleep?
It's more believable of a lie than "Oh I slept for 20 hours bc health issues but I also woke myself up to check on my pets and went back to sleep after!"
No. 595583
File: 1541448897200.jpg (3.64 MB, 2560x2560, TheManyFacesOfAnimalAbuse.jpg)
maybe I'm just childish and petty, but I just watched 19 minutes of this women yapping about cockroaches as her cat watched waiting to pounce and this all I took away from the video. sorry not sorry
No. 595588
>>595575If she was nervous her voice would probably also be shaking, although at this point idk what she has to be nervous about, and she wasn't grossed out enough to not have the roach crawling all over her face.
So i'm going to guess it's drug related.
>>595578I considered maybe it was to do with her EDS, but then i've never seen her shake in any of her other videos (whilst she claimed to have EDS) so I wasn't sure
No. 595619
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>>595617Yup - end of November last year.
No. 595714
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Shes so quick to blame everything on "a hate forum"
No. 595718
>>595715yeah it's obvious she's trying to get her clueless stans to flood the video comments to make herself look good. lol
"GuISe! people are telling facts bout meeee!! help me cover them up by commenting on the video!! they said i did greatt!! waaaaa!"
No. 595720
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No. 595727
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I feel like when they are posting this stuff, Taylor is secretly having a meltdown but trying to appear tough lol
No. 595732
>>595720making your mistakes public doesn't suddenly mean you're amazing? the heck? taylor, you've fucked up so badly that animals have died in your care, others suffer from sickness, incorrect diets, inadequate enclosures, stunted growth and not enough handling. yet you think that just because you made SOME mistakes public that you're somehow off the hook?
the only thing you're "killin" is your animals.
No. 595738
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>>595714"the magazine said it did well" LOL I doubt they even followed up with her to say that, but if they did, why would they say that when most of their videos had more views far more views than hers did until today? Before she sent her stans there there were like 10 likes and 150 dislikes, I wish I'd gotten a screenshot. The ratio is still pretty bad.
No. 595744
>>595720She’s literally so delusional she thinks the “hate” is from her “tanks overheating” like no, bitch. The problem is you admittedly didn’t check on your animals for 10 hours allowing them to slowly suffer and cook to death (if that’s even what truly happened).
Also, I like how she’s abandoned the story about how her monitor is her friend’s and just admitting she impulsively bought him for herself.
No. 595745
>>595720how few brain cells do you have to have to use "killin it" in a tweet about how you're great with reptiles despite literally killing them??
Also she barely "publicizes" her mistakes… where's that apology video to the bearded dragon breeder? She just posts things she thinks aren't mistakes and sometimes gets called out for them. And it seems like she wasn't going to publicize killing the croc skins at all until she was outed and forced to.
Not that I'm exactly a fan of King of DIY's care, but at least he actually does admit when his fish die, and it's usually timely because he actually puts out content like it's his job, whereas Taylor does her "job" once or twice a month.
No. 595752
>>595750>>595750Agreed. Cats might find bells annoying, but there's no veterinary evidence it causes deafness or other medical problems. And yeah, might actually help give her other animals a chance if the cats go for them. Maybe.
If you want to talk about her cats there are so many real things to criticize… is she even using safe release collars now? She wasn't at first. Also her cat harnesses from the video of her walking them don't look safe, and retractable leashes are generally recommended against. I wonder if she ever bothered to get the kittens microchipped. Apparently Star was already chipped, but I don't recall her mentioning it with the kittens.
No. 595753
>>595727LOL
can somebody please just reply with screenshots of her mental breakdown after they broke up the first time publicly? do people actually believe these two are anything more than just two junkies living in a fantasy, saying and doing whatever they can to make more money and bullshit their way through life? i’ve never been so humored by such pathetic human beings.
No. 595759
File: 1541481976166.jpeg (337.58 KB, 750x822, 54B686AA-7906-4477-9267-CA2D83…)
Wow
No. 595788
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How can someone be this ignorant?
Yes, it IS her fault that her monitor's care was improper, because she had no idea what animal it was she brought home!
Can you imagine doing this with snakes or geckos?
"Oh, it's not my fault I didn't give my ball python the proper humidity, I thought it was a corn snake!"
No. 595805
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Can't wait to see her put this one on her face
No. 595808
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Another bone dry water dish.
No. 595813
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Jonny's an expensive pet.
No. 595814
>>595805How many animals does she need to get within a month?
>>595808That's disturbing. Poor snake.
No. 595818
>>595813Wasn't the number supposedly 10k a few threads ago or was that a number an anon came up with? I always thought 10k was outrageously low but if this dumb bitch was smart, he'd find a decent school clinic to get his implants from. They're not free but they're a hell of a lot cheaper than 50k.
Also, "my teeth are porcelain they can't rot" he does realize that they were referring to his actual original teeth that were, in fact, rotted so badly that he needed to have them all extracted, right?
No. 595836
>>595477Yes, I'm sure your EDS is sooo bad, Tay Tay. I have hypermobile EDS myself and I manage to function well enough to raise a family and hold down a job.
Plus I know EDS sufferers who are way worse off than you. They wear braces to keep their joints from dislocating, have had several surgeries to repair damage, or are confined to wheelchairs and in constant, severe pain. So please, cry me a river about how "bad" it is. The fatigue comes from overextending yourself, something I've never seen your lazy ass do, bitch.
No. 595839
>>595838Tremors can also be from things like POTS, which is a common comorbidity with EDS, but I'm afraid to put that fact on here where she lurks in case next week she suddenly has POTS now lol. I know lots of people with EDS who actually are as ill as she says she is, but yeah they use braces and physical therapy and medical intervention. Plus I don't know any of them who can turn it off to go to reptile expos or Disney World or even just get their hair done whenever they want- CCI particularly you have issues at hair salons because you can't move your head right without issues. There's no way she deals with that and doesn't whine about it on twitter.
Her shaking is more likely from drugs or her just being awkward on camera trying to look cute/hot.
No. 595873
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jfc (jonny fucking craig) he literally looks like a crack version of ed sheeran lmao
No. 595882
>>595857??? he's not old. i got 3 implants when i was 29, they healed perfectly. he's what, 32? i know people who got implants in their late 40s and even 60s.
he most probably doesn't take care of them, but then again, he received a whole mouth full…..so one/some not healing properly COULD just be bc there are so many. especially when implanted into a rotting jaw lol
No. 595886
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She’s so uncomfortable with what she really looks like.
No. 595928
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>>595886Same spot. Same pants. What are the chances these photos were taken the same day? Because this video is old and from when her hair was still blonde which would mean she’s had the scorpion since the middle of September, at least.
No. 595938
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>>595932Captured the whole video (apologies for quality!) to include the fact that she’s manhandling the snake like this so that she can take a photograph of it. Next time she claims that she “just snapped a quick photo of the snake while cleaning the cage uwu!!”, I hope this is the image everyone has in their minds.
No. 596024
>>596020I find it funny that OTHER people are now showing way more of taylors animals than she even is. Even jonny showed more in his instagram stories than she has in ages.
Also, note that walmart taylor used pictures of taylors ACTUAL animals in the thumbnail, and not just pictures from google or emojis like tay does.
No. 596027
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>>596020Oh look. A bad shed. But "my snakes always shed perfectly which means they're healthy and I'm doing nothing wrong!!
No. 596030
>>596023I didn't see Zazu in the whole video. Am I blind?
>>596020It is so strange that the majority of these animals are new introductions. Does she still have the mantis?
No. 596033
>>596020notice how the crabs are no where to be seen and it's only old photos of them that Taylor took.
I'm surprised she was allowed to upload this video, for those who don't follow Taylor on anywhere other than Youtube it must be so confusing, they're probably wondering who half the new animals are that Taylor doesn't deem worthy of making an introduction video about, and also wondering where the croc skinks and frog etc have gone
No. 596037
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Isn't it a bad sign if axolotls tails are curved like Mushus is?
No. 596038
>>596037I think Taylor actually said that in one of her own videos lol.
Also what are the white spots all over? and do her gills look small to anyone else?
No. 596040
File: 1541540279428.png (1.55 MB, 764x746, 123456.PNG)
This is what a healthy axolotl looks like. Really sad what condition Mushu is in.
No. 596042
>>596038Yeah, the gill feathering is worryingly small or nonexistent.
I've just got to the part with the snake rack, and I'm feeling quiet rage for the "habitats" Taylor has provided for them.
No. 596044
File: 1541540535748.png (2.26 MB, 1311x734, empty.PNG)
>>596042Right omg Bindis enclosure is literally empty. This screenshot shows half of the tank she is in, there's just nothing but wood chips
No. 596049
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>>596044This is a screenshot from the NY magazine video. That’s Bindi’s cage in the background. I thought maybe she had moved her into a smaller enclosure but I guess not.
No. 596059
>>596049Oh my GOD, when I first watched the NY mag video I thought that was just an empty enclosure that had aspen in it for some reason. I didn't even see poor Bindi in the corner. That is genuinely so upsetting, what kind of monster can have a pet of theirs in a LITERALLY EMPTY enclosure and sleep well at night?
But it's fine guys!! Bindi hasn't died yet so it isn't hoarding, just stop hating on nothing!!! uwuwuwuwuwu happy family
No. 596064
File: 1541543064934.png (650.09 KB, 1132x284, gooseballs.png)
Here's some screenshots of where Goose still visibly has balls - they would not still be this pink and full weeks after neutering. Considering he was supposed to have been neutered a whole month ago on the 3rd.
Honestly surprised those girls haven't already had babies, they don't look visibly pregnant but shes an idiot.
No. 596065
>>596064Rats usually don't start showing they're pregnant until they're about to give birth.
As risky as it is, I really hope she got those girls neutered already. Letting them breed would be so awful.
No. 596067
>>596063even the fact that she gave them away is outrageous. But her fan's won't see a problem with it because its making room for new, more exciting animals.
I'm confused why Taylor has a freshwater tank though with a bunch of angel fish in it? i don't think shes ever mentioned or showed them, and they're not that exciting compared to her usual purchases
No. 596073
>>596068not even that but they flinched every time Emma even breathed. It's clear that Taylor doesn't even sit and just talk to them to get them used to it, they're naturally curious, but flighty, so they probably just view her as someone who provides food.
It's going to be interesting to see if / when she brings out her Rat video, theres no hiding how scared they are of her (although im sure she will pull a sob story on it)
No. 596099
>>596030The orchid? Almost certainly dead. Male orchids decline very rapidly, they start refusing to eat and flying around in the evening which results n them getting quite beaten up. Usually last around a month and half, two tops. The hotter they're kept the more quickly they die.
You're also not supposed to feed them anything other than flying prey, and I've never seen Taylor talk about raising casters so she was probably feeding it crickets or dubias, which will make them die faster.
No. 596100
>>596030The orchid? Almost certainly dead. Male orchids decline very rapidly, they start refusing to eat and flying around in the evening which results n them getting quite beaten up. Usually last around a month and half, two tops. The hotter they're kept the more quickly they die.
You're also not supposed to feed them anything other than flying prey, and I've never seen Taylor talk about raising casters so she was probably feeding it crickets or dubias, which will make them die faster.
No. 596101
>>596030The orchid mantis? Almost certainly dead. Male orchids decline very rapidly, they start refusing to eat and flying around in the evening which results n them getting quite beaten up. Usually last around a month and half, two tops. The hotter they're kept the more quickly they die.
You're also not supposed to feed them anything other than flying prey, and I've never seen Taylor talk about raising casters so she was probably feeding it crickets or dubias, which will make them die faster.
Sorry if you were talking about the shrimp, just ignore me if so.
No. 596104
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Kind of OT but I looked in Taylor’s tagged pictures and this girl is building an enclosure for a monitor she’s just adopted—She looks like a pretty average girl, so I guarantee Taylor has more money/resources than her yet this girls enclosure is already much much larger than Kronos’s and she hasn’t even gotten her monitor yet! How do people who know animal care still like Taylor?
No. 596105
>>596030The orchid mantis? Almost certainly dead. Male orchids decline very rapidly, they start refusing to eat and flying around in the evening which results n them getting quite beaten up. Usually last around a month and half, two tops. The hotter they're kept the more quickly they die.
You're also not supposed to feed them anything other than flying prey, and I've never seen Taylor talk about raising casters so she was probably feeding it crickets or dubias, which will make them die faster.
Sorry if you were talking about the shrimp, just ignore me if so.
No. 596114
File: 1541546086509.png (46.69 KB, 1169x334, surejan.PNG)
Wasn't the magazine interview like 2 months ago? How long is she supposedly cleaning it lmao
No. 596120
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Wow
No. 596125
>>596030The orchid mantis? Almost certainly dead. Male orchids decline very rapidly, they start refusing to eat and flying around in the evening which results n them getting quite beaten up. Usually last around a month and half, two tops. The hotter they're kept the more quickly they die.
You're also not supposed to feed them anything other than flying prey, and I've never seen Taylor talk about raising casters so she was probably feeding it crickets or dubias, which will make them die faster.
Sorry if you were talking about the shrimp, just ignore me if so.
No. 596126
>>596125Stopppppp
>>596114Wow, I used to respect Emma but the way she's defending Taylor and supporting her is…bad. this entire video shows so much wrong with Taylor's husbandry and care and Emma is just defending it to look good for Taylor's fans.
No. 596144
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Why do they think that Taylor is open to any criticism or questions at all?
No. 596152
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More TND clones rising up
No. 596154
>>596064Regarding the rats, the girls might not get pregnant instantly. Goose is still young and inexperienced so it could take him some time to… er, get the hang of it. They also need to be in heat and allow Goose to mate with them.
However, if Taylor continues to be neglectful and keep them together, then they will eventually end up pregnant and unless you're weighing them every day to determine weight gain (let's be real, she probably hasn't weighed them at all to see if they are healthy), she'll have no idea until the last few days. Then she'll have babies slipping through the bars of that cage because the space is too wide or the rats cannibalizing the young because they are surrounded by predators and feel unsafe.
Also not surprised the rats are still terrified of her. They were feeders so most likely have shitty temperaments to begin with, which means they will always be like this unless Taylor puts in the effort to bond and socialize with them… which she clearly isn't doing. I betting Goose will have hormonal aggression later in life and will end up biting her.
No. 596179
>>596037I have one. I'll try to keep this brief and factual so i won't get banned again.
Yes, strong tail curving is a bad sign.
Her gills are also a huge concern for me. They're much shorter and stubbier than they were when she was young, which makes me think permanent damage was done, which is saying something for regenerating axolotls. She doesn't hold them up and flick them around, either. They don't move at all, actually. Normally they flick them every few seconds.
As for the yellow spots, I think that's where the fungus was actually developing. Taylor made an absolutely insane choice to treat her with iodine (I won't sperg again but know that this is cruelty imo) and given that iodine leaves a strong yellow stain, I think it dyed the healing skin. That is just my guess, but if so, again, she managed to permanently damage an animal that can regenerate almost all of its body.
And, of course, none of this is helped by the fact that she's boiling her above a dishwasher.
No. 596186
>>596184Wow that really is fucked up.
It's crazy that when I first watched that video I assumed she knows what shes doing. Then again I also thought that she was mid 20s with an education…
No. 596196
>>596120so
CONVENIENTLY right when they were visiting she was redecorating all of their cages! Sounds like she was scrambling to get all of her enclosures to look decent. I was wondering how she would excuse their horrible living conditions.
The evidence from the NY mag thing that Bindi's enclosure has been bare is amazing. I feel so bad for that skink.
No. 596199
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>>596020At 9.35 when she's showing Tate, you can see how dehydrated he is. When he moves his neck, and the fold that was created in his skin didn't go back.
No. 596205
>>596199it's so enraging how she just…
doesn't care. she says that everyone who accurately points out her shitty husbandry is just a ~hater~ but it's only gonna take one weekend of """sleeping""" (i.e. nodding) or one trip to disney and she'll come back to find half of her animals dead. not saying I want dead animals, but that's what it's gonna take if she has any hope of realizing what the fuck she's doing. unless she already knows she's treating them horribly and just doesn't care.
No. 596244
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I love how she says she doesn’t read here, but when people call her out for tossing bindi aside, she suddenly brings her out again.
No. 596249
>>596245I'm sure when she reads here and sees us saying "she doesn't care" she's just baffled. like, I'm sure she spends
some time on taking care of them every day (though she has also admitted to only checking on them once in a 22-hour period, when three of them died because of it, so not /a lot/ of her time.) but she could not possibly be spending enough time with them based on the numbers and species that she has. she has too many at this point to spend adequate time socializing outside of feeding and watering (which we all know she lacks on based off of dry water bowls.) but like tay. you have three rats, three cats, two hedgehogs, a monitor, and over a dozen snakes. the rats, cats, hedgies, and monitor total like 6+ hours of socialization PER DAY at the minimum if you want them to be friendly and tamed. unless she's committed 8+ hours a day PURELY to handling them, she's not taking care of them to the fullest possible extent that each of them deserves. she's basically just got a bunch of unsocialized snakes, ignored hedgehogs, untrained cats, a wild monitor lizard, and skittish rats.
No. 596253
File: 1541562851984.jpeg (860.83 KB, 1334x750, 6C700354-0E6B-41B0-A4FF-BF98F7…)
>>596027Another picture of her snakes “always having perfect sheds” BS Taylor. Your ball pythons should always shed in one piece. They should never have to put their shed off like Frank obviously had to
No. 596306
File: 1541570377630.jpg (507.34 KB, 1080x1733, 20181107_055844.jpg)
is this a new snake or have I just lost count of which snakes she does and doesn't own?
No. 596364
>>596357Considering that's all she can do with them besides throwing them in a box once she's taken a few Insta pictures of them being held incorrectly, I guess that's just how Taylor interacts with her animals. I hope she doesn't get a real hot snake, because she'll be in deep shit with one. Totally unprepared to handle even a fucking cornsnake, let alone something actually dangerous. But she just has to keep getting more and more to seem like an edgy snake girl!
I'm so sad and angry about Bindi and the axolotl.
No. 596386
>>596219Yep.. I have to agree with this. Plus hoarding is so much deeper than simply collecting things or having a lot of animals. There's some serious mental issues going on there. She thinks it's as simple as, "I can take care of them therefore it's not hoarding". But no, that's not the case for her. Random but I saw a video of some guy who has 25+ pet cats in his (huge) home but he literally turned his house into a cat mansion with tunnels in the walls and shit. They were all fat, CLEARLY well cared for, and the guys was older, single, and financially well off. They were also all rescues. My point to mentioning this is that he wasn't hoarding imo. There IS a line between hoarding and having a shit ton of pets "within your means". Tay has loooong crossed that line.
Also, I genuinely think at this point she won't stop out of pure stubbornness. It would have had to be her idea to stop for it to actually happen. Since she's gotten so much criticism for having so many and she's such a narcissist she CANNOT admit they're right… She'd just as soon fuck herself over in an attempt to be right. Because she refuses to be told what's what by her "haters" even if it's legitimate. Because like an anon above said she can't fathom that people hate her care and not HER. I mean yeah, you totally suck Tay. You're a garbage human. But I promise not a single one of us would be here shit talking you, if you didn't treat your animals like shit.
No. 596397
>>596386Agreed. We've also seen the state of her apartment. Just crap and clutter everywhere. People have this opinion that hoarders are old, poor, ugly and live in homes that are decomposing from the inside. When you think of a hoarder, you don't think of a attractive woman in her early twenties who lives in a lavish apartment.
It's that mentality that allows her to continue to live in her fantasy. Her fans also encourage her toxic behavior. She's only managing now because she has someone who comes in to clean and care for her animals (apparently), imagine if she had to do it herself? She's already struggling if she needs someone else to look after them. No matter what excuses she spins. No one needs someone to come look after their own pets unless they are on holiday or something.
She's glorifying hoarding. The same way people like to romanticize fucked up shit. That's exactly what she's doing. Taylor is making it look glamorous. I hope soon enough people will look at these petubers who keep too many animals and realize just how horrifying it is.
No. 596409
>>596397Exactly. I have no idea how she thinks that she's not overwhelmed.
I could understand if she had someone check in on her animals during the day if she worked a job that required her to be out of the house, or if she had to be at the hospital. But she doesn't.
It's normal to have someone supplement your care (i.e. dog walkers for people with 9-5 jobs and energetic dogs). It's not normal to have someone do all of the care while you sleep for 22 hours, especially if you live with a partner.
No. 596421
>>596414I wish she would but it'll never happen if she can afford it. Best case she slows down. But she hasn't slowed down at all since moving out.
What I don't understand is why she doesn't post about most of her animals on YouTube? Is it really because she's too lazy or is it possible she doesn't necessarily want her 1.5 mil subs to "know" because she knows it's not good. Perhaps more people who know what they're talking about to see her awful pet care and comment specific issues. Because for someone who craves attention as she does you'd think she'd WANT to be posting constant videos to keep herself relevant and growing. She must be deeply depressed to have such an extreme lack of motivation.
No. 596422
>>596414I wish she would but it'll never happen if she can afford it. Best case she slows down. But she hasn't slowed down at all since moving out.
What I don't understand is why she doesn't post about most of her animals on YouTube? Is it really because she's too lazy or is it possible she doesn't necessarily want her 1.5 mil subs to "know" because she knows it's not good. Perhaps more people who know what they're talking about to see her awful pet care and comment specific issues. Because for someone who craves attention as she does you'd think she'd WANT to be posting constant videos to keep herself relevant and growing. She must be deeply depressed to have such an extreme lack of motivation.
No. 596456
>>596443Not to WK Taylor and her lack of care and slobbiness, but maybe she has a cleaner come do the habitats just once a week - I do similar work, and my once-a-week gigs always look like a bomb has gone off in the place by the time I return the next week because the people living and working there are just utter slobs and never pick up after themselves.
I'm not surprised two junkies can't manage to keep their place clean (the carpeting looks horrible in most videos and pics!) even if someone does come in.
No. 596479
>>596153>how badly TND wants to be an EmzoticsIs this you, Em? Couldn't stay away from lolcow? Because last I checked Taylor was on YT before Emzotic with animal videos and most times it's Em making the same videos as Taylor after TND posted them. So that's suspicious.
Not wking Taylor but..we all know Emzotic is psychotic and I think everyone knows she at the very least still lurks here, if not still actively posts with a vpn.
>>596173If she really did bleach it again I am thinking it has to do with all the comments of people saying her and the other two girls Emma and whatsherface are clones of each other. You could tell how bothered she was by that. She even extra wore a wig next time she filmed with them so people wouldn't comment on them looking the same. So my best guess is she bleached her hair because she hates being compared to these other girls.
No. 596481
>>596469At this point Emma and Tyler are complicit in her negligence. If you can witness empty habitats, empty water bowls, her lying about animals she has killed, her endless hoarding and
still support and defend her, you are nearly as bad as she is. I couldn't befriend someone who treats animals like commodities
No. 596484
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No. 596500
>>596499Any news about the other fish in that tank?
Puffer, clown fish, etc?
No. 596502
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Zazu didn’t even live to be 3. Idk where she gets 3 and a half from.
I doubt we will ever know the truth about what happened to either of them.
No. 596512
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No. 596513
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Pt 1
No. 596514
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She said before that she gave him to a friend, now it's her aquarium shop. And how would a shop know that he lived a great life when he didn't even turn 3? So dumb.
If her tank wasn't cycled it would also show up way earlier than a month into it.
No. 596529
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From this timeish last year.
No. 596537
>>596535I feel like Mushu is going to be next :(
Honestly, from an outside point of view, it is logical to expect that with owning a lot of pets, you're going to naturally lose more too.
But none of the pets shes losing are short livespan animals, they should all be living like 10+ years…
No. 596573
>>596512Did the fish die of dropsy or old age.
Her own version here sounds like she neglected his tank then tried to fix a messy situation that resulted?
No. 596576
ok so the story is basically "he died of old age or maybe some sickness, but i'm not sure, even though i did absolutely everything to cure him, but idk if he really had it, but i tried everything, but it cannot be cured, also it was old age, also it started when xy had him so it was probably their fault, but also sickness and old age ya know, and also the vet said i did a wonderful job, also he had an amazing life, also my bf reminded me i did the best job ever, also he lived his life tu the fullest. lol anyway i'm heartbroken lmao"
No. 596582
>>596512Literally, value of an animals life aside, she's wasting a LOT of money on animals for them to just die…
>>596576It's proven that liars often cover their lies with more than one excuse. Honestly just stick to one story and it would be much more believable. She constantly contradicts herself too, she sleeps for 20 hours, but apparently was giving him constant attention in the 2 weeks leading up to his death? I would love to know when he actually died because she was probably frolickiing around with her leachy friends or something
No. 596587
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>>596545Eh, it's not so much that they need to get used to captivity. Fish tend to bet on numbers for reproduction, most are r selected which means they put their resources into having loads and loads of babies. Most of them will die because the amount of resources, we're talking as the eggs were being developed not in terms of parental care here, are spread thin. An adult fish has already been run through a bit of a gauntlet and proven they have good genes, so they'll adapt to captivity better because they were just better from the offset.
It's basically impossible to successfully raise 100% of a species that reproduces like this successfully, some of them will just randomly die, because their reproductive strategy is quantity not quality. Most of them die when they're babies. See attached graph: Fish are a type 3.
So to some extent Taylor is a tiny little bit correct here - just based on pure statistical chance if you catch a baby fish and put it in captivity, chances are it will be one of the less fit specimens and randomly die. Buuuuuut, and this is a big but, idk where the dropoff point for lionfish is. There is a threshold where basically, if it hasn't died yet then it's probably gonna live for ages - You can see on the graph that it stabilises and stays constant after that initial dropoff point. The chance of randomly dying for no reason drops considerably.
If she were actually an animal educator she could have talked about this, using it as an example of why buying wild caught is stupid, why it's risky, bad for the species and a waste of money. She could have turned this into a teaching moment.
No. 596588
>>596512It blows my mind that she took photos of it on the day she got it and then never again. Which leads me to believe maybe something happened early on.
>>596586Honestly, I feel like Zazu was long overdue outgrowing the tank he was in, I feel like she had absolutely no plans for him when he was getting bigger (despite saying she was cycling a tank) where was she planning on putting this? She has absolutely 0 flaw space left in her apartment for that kind of thing. So as some people were speculating before, I feel like she had plans to rehome him eventually. That kind of mindset that he's not going to be around anyway, probably led to her just doing less water changes and causing his death because upgrading him was a problem she subconciously was not prepared to deal with.
No. 596595
>>596591She’s young!!!! She’s allowed to make mistakes!!!
Seen this been used far too many times too. She’s obviously not learning from her mistakes and she’s old enough to know better, it’s not her animals fault that she’s acquired so many in a short period of time / her ‘young’ life and doesn’t know their individual needs
No. 596652
>>596514There hasn't been a single animal death that
hasn't been shady and covered in lies. Who has animals that just die like this? Even the other pet tubers don't, or just come out with real excuses and come clean as to why. What other pet tuber has a lengthy DEATH list for fucks sake
No. 596673
>>596669I think maybe her first hedgehog, Nala I think is her name.
Most of her animals were well cared for when she was still living with her parents, so I have to give props to Jen for that, as batshit as she is.
No. 596681
>>596484Yeah, 'cause when you overstock a 29 gallon with multiple fish that should really be in at least 2-3x that size and are too drugged up to bother with regular water changes to control your nitrate levels, and feeding to avoid predation, they die. What a shock, Taylor!
>>596514lmao so it was the shop's fault he died but also they reassured her she did everything right!! Who the fuck has a shop watch their fish rather than doing something safe like daily water changes until the tank stabilizes? Shops are great places for fish to catch diseases, and then she'd have to quarantine him when she got him back…but right, Tay doesn't know what quarantine is does she. Also she has a 150 gallon saltwater tank set up. She could leave an extra filter in there for 2 weeks to seed and then move it over, or just steal some media for another tank and instantly cycle. Clearly she's still not sure how cycling tanks works.
>>596573Technically dropsy is just a result of organ failure which can be due to old age, but since Zazu wasn't old I'd assume she either made the whole thing up or he died from stress and poor care.
No. 596692
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She’s so upset that she went and bought her favorite pet a Switch with games.
No. 596712
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she sounds like she couldn’t care less that they died, who is she trying to convince that she is capable of taking care of animals? Herself?
No. 596724
>>596712Taylor says (and certainly does) some things that amaze me. Even if she feels this way personally, which is awful, she's also incredibly dumb to air it this way.
This tweet boils down to "So what if a few creatures have died prematurely under my watch? MOST haven't!" Life isn't a numbers game??
No. 596749
>>596683Good point! My experience is with freshwater rather than saltwater, but I don't know of much that can kill both inverts and fish? I still religiously quarantine all inverts though because they can easily carry something that can get the fish in the tank sick. Possible Zazu got sick from that, and she killed the mantis shrimp because she didn't know what she was doing. Also, if one fish in a tank dies and you don't take it out quickly it can crash the whole tank pretty fast.
Side note, she says she "hasn't lost any fish in her 150" which I doubt, but maybe it's true. If it's not, would she know or tell us? I remember an old video in which she found a clownfish in her filter that had been living there for months or something.
And even if her saltwater tanks were up to par, her freshwater tank and Mushu's tanks are nightmares, so what do you have to say about that, Tay?
No. 596773
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This is what Mushu looked like back in 2016. That poor thing is sick or stressed or both.
No. 596787
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>>596776No timestamp on the screen shot but it was posted in thread #18 on 9/16/18. I think she got him in May (?) and she said he only lived about 4 months, so he absolutely could have been dead already when she posted this.
No. 596795
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>>596787She BOUGHT her mantis shrimp in April. So she lied about getting the shrimp from her friend at old age, and she lied in her comment in September.
Based on her information the shrimp died in August. I'd bet even earlier.
No. 596797
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>>596787Same anon.
The "upgraded" tank she's referring to is this. It was posted in thread #12 on 6/4/18. Anons mentioned she deleted it soon after. For all we know the shrimp died sometime in June.
>>596795Whoops, my bad!
>>596796Yeah, basically.
No. 596798
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> didn’t know she had the wrong monitor species till someone pointed it out in her comments
> knew her jawfish and eel live in the same kind of home and would fight over space but ignored it resulting in the death of the jawfish
> didn’t know Goose was male despite early signs
> didn’t know the gender of her mantis despite it having sexual dimorphism
> didn’t stop to think that one of her clownfish may have changed sex because that’s what they do
> didn’t know that mantis shrimps are also known for their bullet like punch and could crack a tank wall if not strong enough. Was pointed out by a fan
Educated my ass
No. 596801
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No. 596802
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"mega old" lol
No. 596807
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It could be the angle, but her jaw doesn't seem to line up properly. I wouldn't be surprised if she developed mbd.
No. 596811
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Everyone else doesn't have over 30 animals.
Everyone else houses incompatible species separately.
Everyone else cares for their own animals instead of hiring others to do it for them.
Everyone else isn't sleeping for 20+ hours
Everyone else didn't also lose two lizards and a frog due to an "accident" (aka neglect).
No. 596812
>>596575It doesn't get a sob story because its
more likely that one died of natural causes. She makes the sob stories to cover her ass when she knows she killed a pet with shitty care
No. 596814
>>596811i'm in fish groups and literally no one tells people to flush their pet when it dies. people offer their condolences and for the fish to swim in peace. many bury their fish in potted plants or in their gardens.
how out of touch do you have to be to believe this shit?
No. 596816
>>596811LOL clearly that stan doesn't follow other fishtubers. King of DIY gets (often deserved) criticism when he loses fish, Solid Gold got plenty after she had an outbreak and lost most of her collection.
But neither of them ever made posts about their dead pets with an "lol" or a laughing emoji, they either really were broken up about their lost pets and their mistakes, if any were made, or they were at least decent enough to act it well.
Honestly I think this is why Taylor seems to be moving into bugs now. They're "gross" so she can be edgy for owning them, just like snakes, but she has easy excuses for why they don't live long and she probably knows people will be more sad when her cute mammals suffer than bugs.
No. 596821
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No. 596842
>>595808I'm rather late but if animal control/whatever the equivalent of RSPCA in US came and inspected her animals there would probably be a massive issue. Not providing fresh water is going against one of the 'freedoms' of animals and that's a huge no. That and she clearly provides her animals with nothing to enrich them or even the correct conditions.
I'm not saying that we should go and report her (I don't want to be banned) but Taylor, if anyone ever reports you and someone does investigate you're very likely going to be fucked. Your care isn't even meeting the minimum requirements of providing fresh fucking water.
No. 596844
>>596749what's wrong with her freshwater tank? just wondering, i know nothing about fish.
a responsible pet owner wouldn't continue buying heaps of animals right after some of theirs died. period. this is completely sick behaviour for me.
No. 596846
>>596841yes here
>>>/snow/557277, presumably the same one she says got lost in the mail n
>>596838 No. 596850
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Look at her flower tattoo, it looks so awful and faded already.
And I'm pretty sure these are the pictures she manhandled Duck for in Jonnys instagram story.
No. 596855
>>596787So essentially she caused them to die because she wanted to make room for more reptiles…
>>596776I’m sorry that I can’t peovide ‘proof’ but I’m the anon who has been posting about her covering up the death of the skinks, replacing them etc. Apparently Zazu has been dead since before petfest, just thought you should all know to get a timeframe of things.
No. 596869
>>596838Ahh thanks for this, I totally missed that the shrimp was mentioned in a video.
Honestly, she says something like "I don't have the right food right now" so often it's kinda concerning.
It's also so obvious she never ordered the acrylic tank. Never known anyone to have such bad luck with shipping than TND.
I still find it so bizarre that she never mentions when her pet dies and tries to hide it. I bet soon we'll hear that the mantis only just died and lived 2 months longer than the average life span!!! when really it died 3 months ago.
No. 596884
>>596883Emma said she conveniently 'lost the footage' of those. BS. Along with Toast and Sarabi who were apparently on a 'seperate memory card' how does that make sense? Whilst filming Taylors animals would you not do it in a logical order so:
> film all the snakes as they're all in one area (including toast)> Film the moon crabs in the display enclosures along with the other animals> Film the hedgehogs at the same time (unless sarabi is still in the closet and was forgotten about)so how would footage of all these animals be on a seperate memory card if they were being filmed in a logical order? something seems up to me.
No. 596886
>>596883I thought she only had two moon crabs
Is the list being keeping up with the recent events?
No. 596887
>>596886She does only have 2 moon crabs, she made a big deal about getting a second one even though he is wild caught because her first crab needs friends (she's had her for like a year now, she should've gotten more earlier but whatever).
Dunno how google docs work but maybe someone added another one cause they didnt know it was already updated.
No. 596891
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So, I went back through Taylor’s insta to see why they thought there was more moon crabs, she did state that she was planning on getting more, maybe that’s where the confusion came from.
Also, I can’t remember if this specific post was mentioned but Taylor claimed twistys tail was always bent from the beginning. However in the first post I seen of him his tail looks completely healthy.(( again not sure, it just caught my attention))
No. 596895
>>596891He had a really really tiny kink towards the very end of his tail, it's barely even noticable. Looked perfectly healthy though despite the kink. No rotting, no discolouration, it wasn't shrivelled at the end. It definitely wouldn't have needed amputating before Taylor and/or Jonny did something to him to cause his tail to rot.
Tail kinking is so common in beardies, it's not often that a tail kink will be bad enough to cause issues, and the tail dies past where it's kinked at the end then the tail will shrivel up and fall off if cared for correctly while that happens. So if the tail really was dead past the kink, then she provided such poor care that it resulted in amputation. If the tail wasn't dead then she mistreated him so badly that it caused his tail to rot resulting in amputation. Whatever her excuse, it's absolutely her own fault.
No. 596899
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>>596891I noticed that too. Here is another picture right after she got him. On the left his tail doesn't even look kinked
No. 596927
>>596857I knew someone who cried after their goldfish of 3 years died, they were absolutely devestated.
I’m not saying everyone has to be super attached to their fish but…
Her nonchalant attitude really rubs me the wrong way
No. 596966
>>596855Don't say things without providing proof. That isn't welcome. I don't know how you could have this info but nothing to back it up. Surely you have to have some connection to
somebody to "know" these things.
No. 596967
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wtf is she talking about
No. 596973
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Mama Dean is so fucking weird.
>>596971Are you really surprised that nobody is going to believe you when you can't even vaguely say what your source is?
No. 596979
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Maybe they don’t get as much hate because they don’t say shit like this when they kill their animals, you absolute moldy twat waffle.
No. 596984
>>596971Can you find a way to back what you're saying about Zazu? Like you did with the skinks. You have to understand, we cannot take the word of every anon poster here and assume that to be fact. Anyone can say anything.
If you want your identity confirmed in some way, say to use a tripcode (if admin thinks that's right), then go to this page
https://lolcow.farm/rules and write to the email at the very bottom of it. They won't reveal who you are to us.
That way you would have more credibility than a random anon post would.
No. 596985
>>596967She's basically saying that because she's a woman she gets more shit from people.
While I do agree people give her a lot of shit about her appearance and keep calling her slut/whore/thot, it has nothing to do with her animal care.
If anything, I see her getting more passes because she's a woman. And this is the price that comes with becoming well known in a community. The more known you become, the more people will go after you if they see you fucking up. It's not a new concept. Maybe you're just not cut for this.
No. 596986
>>596967Some of the male hobbyists she's referring to also don't have the same number of subscribers as she does, so naturally the more subscribers you have, the more people are going to notice the neglect.
Kill anymore animals though, and you will deserve that Villain title, Cruella de vil
No. 596989
>>596986Yeah, and I don't buy her "poor me me ME MEEE" bullshit act at all - she doesn't get more flack than, say, Solid Gold did when her tanks failed wholesale, or the criticism DIY Joey gets regularly (and deservedly). She's not singled out at all or bullied, but she can't stand criticism at all - that's why she has her wittle army of middle schoolers she can sic on people disagreeing with her and hurting her ickle feelings.
If only she put some of that time and energy into taking care of her animals and making content. Fuck knows she's got nothing else taking up her time.
No. 596990
>>596987Yeah, that too. I think that because she's attractive, young, and #relatable, people are more willing to let her get away with shit.
I also feel like it's because of her own fans' lack of experience. The oldest fans are around her age, so they often fail to see the bigger picture.
Kinda like Jake Paulers lmao.
No. 596991
>>596987I can’t wait until she’s this haggard 30 year old who won’t have the excuse of “oh well I’m just a young girl!! I’m learning!!” Like bitch you look like you’re 40 lmao.
It’s so irritating that she’s one of THOSE girls who cries that everyone’s mean to her because she’s a female. Are you serious? Yes people give her shit about her looks but her ugliness is the result of her inner personality coming out. How about stop neglecting and killing your animals that you profit on, and stop accumulating them at a rapid pace and acting like you have no sympathy when they die with the “it’s just one animal out of many you guise!!”. I wonder if this is a reason she gets SO many animals; when they die she wants to use the ratio of dead/alive ones as an excuse for the “I’m killin it” shit.
No. 596992
>>596990I think the main problem is that most of her fans follow her because she's QUIRKY and relatable and a 'hot' girl with all these animals. Most of her younger fans blindly look up to her, they want to be like her with all these animals, but the problem is most of them probably own nothing similar to what Taylor owns.
I think the difference with other channels such as Solidgold and king of DIY is that their 'fanbase' is built up of like minded people who are subscribed because they keep similar animals, but thus will see through their shit, point out issues, and its generally received better.
Whereas Taylors fans are watching for HER, and not as equals who are also in the hobby.
No. 596994
>>596993I wonder if she's wondering why she's the only Pet tuber (besides happytails but that thread is dead and should never have been made seperate) to have their own thread.
Well she needs to take a long hard look at herself and her care to find the answer.
No. 596996
>>596994Does Taylor "let me just move in with a rapist junkie and get 16 snakes in a year" strike you as a person prone to any self-reflection or intelligence at all?
The sad thing is, she might have had a decent future if she opted to get herself an education and not tie her affairs to that black hole of money and charisma Jonny.
No. 596999
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>>596883>>596887Google doc anon, 2nd crab found on her insta here, mistakenly added third one because of anon in previous thread >>716942 (unless someone can find an insta or twitter post talking about a third)
Edited accordingly