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No. 460352
20 year old "family friendly pet mom" Youtuber and her 31 year old junkie boyfriend Jonny Craig.
Previous thread:
>>450408The basics:
> Taylor is a notorious animal hoarder known for collecting 30+ rare and exotic pets and manhandling/mistreating them for the sake of her Youtube channel which has over 1 million subscribers. Several pets have died in her care, many more have fallen ill due to her neglect or disappeared after "rehoming" them. Fails to give proper enclosures for many of her pets, including overstuffing fish tanks, keeping her kittens locked in the bathroom, and her mouse and hedgehog in the closet.> Jonny Craig is the frontman of the band Slaves and is most well-known for being an outspoken abusive junkie. He has been in and out of rehab centers for a decade now and has been kicked out of multiple bands and off of tours for his behavior. He is usually homeless when he does not have a girlfriend to leech off of.> Several of Jonny's ex-girlfriends have come out with stories of Jonny's physical and sexual abuse, including rape at knife-point. His ex Chelsea confided this in Taylor when she and Jonny first started dating, in which Taylor's response was to laugh with Jonny and make a public spectacle of it.> Recently moved out of her parent's house and into an apartment with Jonny Craig, which caused public drama between her and her mother, who adamantly disapproves of Jonny after hearing of his history and discovering that together he and Taylor were snorting coke and heroin.> Taylor loves to throw pity parties for herself and dodge around the real issues when faced with criticism about her husbandry, hoarding, and hypocrisy. She can never keep her stories straight and will tell outright lies only to contradict them hours later. Her fans are sycophants who only encourage her.Taylor's Links:
Twitter:
http://www.twitter.com/taylorndeanInstagram:
http://www.instagram.com/taylorndeanYoutube:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaOTXKuQ-t-eTikY96B9n-QFacebook (private:)
https://www.facebook.com/Taylor.Nicole.DeanJonny's Links:
Twitter:
https://twitter.com/jonnycraig4LInstagram:
https://www.instagram.com/jonnycraig4lRecently:
- Claimed she was facing eviction because the big bad internet bullies called her apartment about her 30+ animals, but don't worry! Now everything is totally okay because the apartment complex is totally on her side.
- Claimed she was visited by Animal Care Services when the office was closed on Christmas day, but don't worry! They know Taylor is doing a super job so they don't even bother checking up on her.
- Jonny's ex-girlfriend's mom was going to address her relationship with Jonny and the heartbreak it has caused her, but that has yet to surface.
- Taylor funded new teeth for Jonny because he was missing several, which is likely cost her thousands.
- MORE designer animals! Bought rare morph Clownfish and dumped them in her already overstuffed 150 gallon tank.
No. 460455
>>460432Don’t forget that she loves to post shit and then delete it as soon as anyone says anything negative.
Also look at her trying to divert attention to the Logan Paul situation
You’re not fooling anyone Taylor, you’re still a shitty person
No. 460785
>>460553I didn’t stan her but I did follow her, although only on youtube. At first I really thought she was a cool girl. I thought she knew at least what she was doing because she presented herself as someone who did research and knew what she was talking about. But then again when you don’t know shit about exotic pets, it can look like she’s an expert.
But then I started to see how she handled the criticism against being with Jonny and her posting shit to then delete it half an hour later after seeing her stans do the dirty work for her and then claim she was drama free for real this time, only to delete it again and repeat the cycle.
I guess it makes sense if you only follow her on youtube to feel like she’s being treated unfairly, but once you see her twitter you realize she’s actually a pretty shit person who uses others to get what she wants, all while pretending she’s all about the positive attitude and good feelings and fun uwu, which i think might be hard for some fans to notice because they’re either around her age or younger.
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No. 460962
>>460884I would adore a thread to shit talk Tyler. My hatred for him is so so strong.
Sage for ot
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taylor retweeted this tweet from fellow cow shoe0nhead but she deleted the retweet. i wonder why
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so now she’s inferring that she’s bi. is it to impress guys, taylor?
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I’m so behind on drama I didn’t realize there was a new thread already
~sage for making a newfag mistake~
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Everytime Taylor talks Im just
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Well…. shit…
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Didn't leave time
No. 461198
>>461192I doubt her complete army of thirteen-year-olds will ever turn on her. If it were that easy, Jake and Logan Paul would be irrelevant by now.
Plus, her parents said they'd welcome her back with open arms, she'd probably move back in with them.
No. 461206
>>461198I'm not saying it's going to happen soon. But a YouTube career is not sustainable for a lifetime. Especially when you need to purchase animals every 6 hours to keep everyone's attention.
A younger and prettier YouTuber with animals will come along and she will be left in the dust.
No. 461218
>>461206Pretty much. Especially when you consider that pretty much every long-term popular Youtuber, 95% of them are attractive and young, because that's the most "relatable" and marketable, which goes double for women. That's why Youtubers are so easily replaced and Youtubers popular 5 years ago aren't relevant now.
The way I see it is unless you're constantly making advertisements for an actual brand, YouTube really isn't a sustainable long-term career for more than 5 years. It should really be used as an avenue to get other opportunities, not your main source of income because that's how people start running into problems (re: adpocalypse)
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This was incredibly stupid to post. She’s trying to create drama. With less than 5 minutes of searching i found her parents address where THEY STILL LIVE. She straight just doxxed her own parents and brother. What a cunt.
Sage for newfag mistake bc i didn’t realize there was a new thread
No. 461319
>>461262Says the manchild who can't go a fucking day without mentioning one of his exes.
What a joke of a man.
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For future reference if it get deleted: Taylor's snake is on a stick being hold by Craig, then Taylor gets close to the snake with an object (I believe a book or an iPad) and the snake bit it.
What does she said? Oh yes, she doesn't handle her animals that are not supposed to hand if it isn't for a video on short periods of time.
Bitch your bf is holding the snake like is some crappy Happy Meal straw decoration while you stress the fuck out of it.
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Positive vibes guys positive vibes~
You are so positive that you send your fans to attack anyone who doesn't agree with you on Twitter
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jonny's insta stories are him playing around with the snakes
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I just want to point out that Gus really isn’t as old as she says she is. Proved by timestamps.
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Gus is technically within the average lifespan on a mouse at this point. He’s not living “super long” because she’s the “best pet mom ever!!1!” It’s because that’s how old they live with basic care.
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Let's name my snake after a drug!!!
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No. 461543
https://youtu.be/xTYDrT9qx-gIN CASE IT GETS DELETED
here is the video of Jonny handling the baby GTP on a stick(?)
{ idk how to link the YouTube videos so I've put the link in the comment and the YouTube section :') }
No. 461554
>>461543>snake in striking position>clearly stressed>lets snake bite hard objectThey can break their fangs that way which can lead to some nasty infections and lopsided jaws.
I love snakes. Such a shame that people can't respect them and treat them like toys.
Description is right too in that green tree pythons also have delicate bodies and shouldn't really be handled much anyway.
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she deleted this one
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No. 461770
>>461745I actually still think that this whole drug thing is a joke at this point. We have seen no actual signs other than a cold of her using drugs/going through withdrawal. Mind you she says some fucked up shit but it is a cold season so it's not a surprise someone is ill.
Either way, I meant that if this was a 'normal' relationship she seems to be very condescending.
No. 461785
>>461748“Stereotype that snakes cause pain”
Taylor, if a snake bites you it’s going to hurt regardless if the snake is venomous or not because your skin is being PIERCED BY FANGS. It’s not a stereotype. This is such dumb logic
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so remember this disaster of an IG video where she almost drops her crab?
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she replied to someone's concern and said she wouldn't do it again
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cough cough
aight
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No. 461868
>>461805that's silly. As a lesbian with a ton of straight friends and i don't care whether they make lesbian jokes.
however, the biphobic part is true. this makes hard to believe that her recent "joke" was actually just a joke.
>>461858>>461842She has trouble admitting her mistakes. It's never her fault, and she knows how to word her "apologies" to deflect blame one way or another and make it seem like she's trying so hard.
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What a timely post, Taylor
No. 461895
>>461748you're still fucking complicit in what he's done, though.
you cannot just say "i don't condone anything he has done in the past" and yet remain silent and block the women, one who was still together with him three weeks before he met you, who have warned you plenty of times about him.
this isn't something you get to talk someone out of, don't be fucking stupid.
by acting like this, whether or not you want to admit it, you're condoning his behavior, which he's STILL displaying to others on his social media.
this is not a matter of ignoring things and hoping they'll go away. it's just a matter of time until he beats the shit out of you. he's already cheating on you. wait until he goes on tour. what a dumb fuck she is.
No. 461900
>>461889"Can't I get some attention too?"
And yeah that was very timely.
Hi Taylor, know you're reading this.
No. 461907
>>461889Is it me or is she very clearly holding the pure bred one to the camera?
Lmao… of course you'd have to include the animal you prefer.
No. 461911
>>461907Oh my god I was thinking the same thing. It’s just so unnecessary to include the cat you posted 6 other pictures of within the hour.
Nemo has gunk near his eye that needs to be cleaned too.
No. 461923
>>461906i have zero doubt anymore that she’s saying the “I have PTSD” bit for attention at this point.
Despite claiming to be traumatized of people like Jonny, she has complete faith that he’s changed as a person within knowing him for two months, throughout which he’s constantly fought, insulted and laughed at people on Twitter. I’m sure he’s met someone like Jonny before, but she’s not traumatized otherwise she wouldn’t let someone like him within 20 feet of her, let alone LIVING ALONE WITH HIM.
She criticizes straight girls for pretending to be bi for male attention but she’s pretending to have a horrifying, debilitating disorder because “slightly severe anxiety” doesn’t sound as pity-inducing
No. 461925
>>461923As someone who has PTSD, I've gotten pretty lucky since it doesn't affect me as hard as other people
But when it is set off, it is literally one of the worst experiences
The fact that she can make claims of having it, and then put herself in a situation, where if she actually did have it, it would've been set off is ridiculous
No. 461942
>>461319If this is how he treats a person that's literally the same age as Taylor, hmmm.
(I wonder if I'm still blocked)
No. 461963
>>461770I don’t think we’re ever going to get actual proof she’s using, besides the “faked” screenshots. It’s really not information available to the GP if someone has like at least a bit of sense - like the only reason we know Tuna or Speck and other cows use is because they fucking blog about it. I actually have faith that Taylor isn’t that stupid. She knows how critical her brand is and how heroin doesn’t fit into that.
Only scenario I see her actually copping to it is when her and Jonny break up and she’s suddenly the victim and “he made me use.”
No. 461964
>>461262Remember how he posted the tweet about people mentioning him after he's blacked so it's like they literally talk to themselves?
He literally blocks me, then tweets me again XD he's such an idiot XDXDXDXDXD
No. 461967
Her relationship with Jonny is, when you think about it, the same exact thing as her relationship with snakes.
Hear me out. It seems to me that she likes snakes so much because other people are afraid of them. Many people think of snakes (and to a lesser extent reptiles, and tarantulas, and bugs, etc…) as being hostile - that they will bite, and therefore don't like to keep them as pets. She's even talked about "those stereotypes" with that nonsensical idea to name the one "morphine". She likes the idea that these snakes are sweet with her, where it might seem like they would bite other people. She holds up hard things for them to bite instead, she stresses them out, she handles them too soon and too often, she hand-fucking-feeds them – and it seems like so far she's been lucky enough to not be seriously injured. But I mean… she doesn't think it's luck, she thinks it's because she's special - that the snakes love her more than they could ever love anyone else. That's why she teases them, because as far as she's concerned, they would never bite her. I don't think any of that is a reach. We all know she has a knack for anthropomorphizing her animals.
It's the same fucking thing with Jonny. She doesn't want to fix him. She likes that he lashes out at everyone except her (as far as WE can tell, and that's what matters.) She wants everyone to think she's the snake charmer: the one person who can be treated well by a venomous scumbag like Jonny. If he apologized - if he ever showed even a glimmer of remorse - if he started to change into a better person? She'd fucking drop him. She needs him to be violent and horrible, so that she can act like she's the only one he will listen to. Make no mistake - the last thing she wants is for him to clean up his act. What would the snake charmer do with a golden retriever boyfriend? How impressive would that be?
I think considering her delusional or stupid is nicer than she deserves. She's a fucking sociopath.
No. 461976
>>461967One million percent this. She's every bit as awful as he is, just in different way. She's using him as a convenient excuse to do whatever she wants and later blame in on his "bad influence". Meanwhile, she gets to enjoy feeling the high of collecting another "dangerous" pet. It would be much funnier if there weren't real animals needlessly suffering behind the scenes.
Just a couple of seriously repulsive folks.
No. 461997
>>461967>>461976 I actually think she wants to fix him too- she could be the one to make the claim that she did it in the first place. Think of the 'I'm a saint who rescues abandoned humans/animals and nurses them back to health' mentality she has. Just like with the kittens. Just like with her druggie rapist sociopath boyfriend.
It's probably a combo of both. The snake-charmer attitude to wrangle him in, and then trying to fix the mess she gets stuck with.
No. 462044
>>461967She calls herself a people pleaser, but lashes out when she gets criticized and makes fun of people and retweets comments of her mindless fans making fun of people who don't worship her.
She calls herself all these names that I think she believes makes her sound sweet and vulnerable and like a tortured soul who just wants to see the good in the world, but her actions never line up with what she says
No. 462049
>>462041I'm STILL not over the morphine thing. It's not even necessarily that I think she's on drugs, because people who are completely sober say dumb stuff all the time to try and sound philosophical and deep.
But the hilarious thing is that shes SAYS snakes causing pain is a stereotype which is dumb in itself, but in order for morphine to be an effective painkillerーthere NEEDS to be pain for it to kill. That's kind of the POINT of taking it.
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>>461976>>461997She calls him one of her pets here
No. 462257
>>461736well of course a rapist isn't going to think that rape jokes are disgusting, now is he.
ohhh but you ~~had some words~~ with him, did you? well, I guess that makes everything just peachy, taylor. great job!!
No. 462263
>>462257this is as far as she can go in regards to him.
because she knows damn well that if she talks about actual allegations she's fucked and will look like the rape apologist she is lmao.
No. 462272
>>461967100% this. she's the only goddess this broken, troubled man can relate to. and she can use him as a shield and an attack dog, cos god knows dude acts like a rabid asshole and has no problems verbally assaulting women online)
side note, does he talk like this to men? or is he such a weakling that he can only spew his crap at women?
No. 462312
>>462289Exactly!
If you know he's a despicable person then why TF are you dating him???
No. 462367
>>462312because she wants the ~experience~
that, and/or she thinks she's so pure & innocent she can change his ways and pretend she saved him.
just because he's nice to you it doesn't mean he was nice to her, taylor.
No. 462378
>>462372No idea, but it just seems really weird. She tweets and deletes stuff all the time, but you'd think a missing person's poster would be enough to keep it up for at least a day.
She does this thing where every other month she'll pick out random comments from her fans and act like she's concerned about them, which seems like virtue signaling and less about actually interacting with her fans.
I always click on the profile of the people Taylor gets her fans to send hate to just to see how bad it is and a lot of the time those people end up being fans of hers and she misinterprets their concern as criticism. So I guess she only cares about some of her fans. Selective empathy based on what will make her appear the kindest.
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Oh hey Ian…
Just imagine the content cop on Taylor. I lowkey wish those lower tier tea spilling channels would expose her at least. I dont know how she manages to continue to fly under the radar but I genuinely hope her shit blows up soon.
No. 462455
>>462436there is a possibility he's just following because she's cute and posts cool pics with pets and nothing else.
and even if he's actually doing a CC on her its going to take months so we shouldn't even be hyped yet. nice catch though, this TND has been blowing up everywhere so there is a big chance he knows. depends on when he started following her but i don't think theres anyway to know that sadly
>>462450uh… legit are you kidding me? tana mantagoose got one for TWEETING the n word when she was 16. Taylor Nicole Dean abuses animals, lies about being pro adoption and dates a heroin addict. you are completely out of your mind if you think she's off limits
also stop treating content cop as something as anything other than silly enterteinment making fun off youtubers, "warranting one" climb out of his ass for real.
No. 462473
>>462455Are you dense or something? Tana got one because she contradicted herself telling Ian to kill himself over saying it, he doesn't give a shit if she says it or not, that was the whole point of his video, dude.
Buddy, "lies about being pro-adoption" isn't exactly a huge moral issue, it's shitty but it's not the end of the world. Every other complaint you just listed the dude would have zero clue about since there's hardly any evidence, especially if like
>>462438 just said, he doesn't know shit about animals.
Christ I get that you hate her but no need to get THAT
triggered over a comment.
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No. 462568
>>462518I had no intention of commenting here until I read all of this bullshit. Longtime lurker, so apologies if I've saged/replied wrong.
Gotta love that JC thinks the women he was with beforehand are still remotely interested in him, even enough to sit at home thinking about how he's giving 'everything they didn't deserve' to some gullible 20 year old. Notice how he talks about them as if their harassment stems from the fact that he's no longer with them? Like, they're GLAD not to be with him anymore; how can he not realise that? They just feel sorry for the girl eleven years his junior currently lapping up all of his manipulation and lies like it's worth a damn. JC, they recognize you for the lowlife scum you are. They don't miss you, or think you should have given them a good time. They're happy just to have survived you, you thicko. Like the sheer level of his arrogance is sickening. I bet the only reason Taylor can put up with it is because she's about equal to him on that scale.
It feels to me like his entire reason for being with Taylor too is to rub it in his ex's faces that he's got a younger, more naive model. The only reason he has to feel grateful or enamored by Taylor is because she's housing him, and worshiping the ground he walks on. All it'll take is one major disagreement or sticking point, and his true nature will come forward. But they're both narcissistic as fuck, and from the looks of things, if rape allegations and a history of drug abuse can't compel her to criticize him, there's probably nothing he can do short of murder to stop Taylor thinking the sun shines out of his ass.
No. 462607
I'm a former heroin addict and this situation is so predictable, I've seen it a million times. Any junkie is going to latch on to any opportunity for a warm place to stay and someone with money to get high with, and the best, a car. The plus is that she's attractive. She'll end up hooked, he'll dip out because she'll start spending all her money on drugs for herself and finding her own connects, and he'll just bounce to someone else or rehab, sober living, etc. A gullible well off 20 year old open to doing drugs is perfect for him. Trust me, he cares about nothing but drugs, not even those exes he's constantly posting about. He might be content enough to remember his disdain for them for a few hours, but as soon as he starts getting dope sick or nods off forget it. Taylor's pupils look pinned all the time. I get that she uses bright lights for recording but I also know how these things work. Give it a few months, maybe even longer, but you can't hide heroin use for too long even if she's not shooting it yet. And you just can't be in a relationship with a junkie unless you're using too or they're clean. It just doesn't work. First sign things are going badly will be her moving back home. Mark my words.
No. 462619
>>462607Hey fellow former heroin addict anon! I agree completely. The only thing I disagree about is her moving home being the FIRST sign. Before that, I think there'll be the typical flaky bullshit. Crappy sporadic content. Oh wait…already happening lol.
Anyhow, don't you love how he's all ~reborn~, when he's drinking regularly, possibly smoking weed, and pretty obviously not in any continuing treatment/going to meetings, less than 6mos into sobriety? This is like a playbook of how to relapse. But I think he might hold out until he has to travel for his band. In a major city where there's open air corners, he's done.
I learned about Taylor getting back into my love for animals when I had very little clean time. Sad to see her turn herself into such a toptier cow.
No. 462632
>>462629Yeah, she repeats things but never does any reshoots or any actual preparation beforehand (like how some youtubers have scripts or outlines they’ll pull from)
The most impressive thing she’s done is that whole “comedic closeup” thing, which isn’t bad it’s just not work. There’s no point in her acting like it’s harder than it is.
No. 462678
>>462624As someone who majored in video production in college, I can agree with this statement. For the type of content, she posts editing should take 2hrs at the most. But what takes the most time is exporting the file and then uploading it to YouTube. Both of which (considering the quality) can take up to two hours per step. So the whole process could take up to 6 hours depending on her video quality and internet provider. Also depends on her editing software.
(Sage for video production nerd and knowing how to use Premiere Pro)
No. 462686
>>462516They’re both fucking delusional. This is so embarrassing. JC didn’t say anything nice about Taylor. AT ALL. All he said was, “she’s not a $1 whore like my exes and she doesn’t hold me accountable for my drug use like my horrible slut garbage exes and I totally love her like I could never love MY EXES who I also never cared about” and Taylor is just like “awwwww so sweet love you too soul mate.”
It’s infuriating. I don’t expect better from him but how the fuck could she read this and not feel like the world’s biggest pawn. He’s a rapist abusive junkie piece of shit and now he’s acting like the victim because “he hated who he was with them,” inferring that they’re the reason he was using. No one held a gun to his head and made him stay. He leeched of these women for YEARS because he’s a selfish little sadist who took advantage of the fact that those women were the only people in the world who gave a fuck whether he lived or died. Now, Taylor, he’s using you just to torture them further by slandering their name and image and the hell they endured for the past decade because of him. But yeah, “soulmates.” Okay.
Fuck these two. Sage for maximum salt.
No. 462719
>>462648Congrats to you too! And yes to everything. Seriously can't believe he was drinking less than a month out of rehab.
>>462686YES, all of this. Him blaming his use on his SOBER exes is the funniest/most infuriating thing. How the fuck does Taylor think he's reformed? Oh right, because he said so. And she licks up every drop of bullshit he spews.
>>462699Honestly I think the people saying Nemo's gonna die are reaching a little. He doesn't look great, but at this point he's at an age where he's out of that critical fragile stage. I would say the chances of him dying are pretty low.
Who wants to bet that in the next few months she'll get an animal she definitely can't properly care for, like a massive snake (Burm, retic, etc)? When it's shoved into a drawer where it can barely move, laying in its own waste for days on end, she'll point to Brian Barcyzk and say "this is how it's done, big spaces scare them!"
No. 462745
>>462719
>"this is how it's done, big spaces scare them!" She's already done that with one of the snakes, just hasn't reached the drawer stage yet lmao
Also, it made me wonder if she's going after 'bad guys' that are famous and have money. Maybe she thought Jonny had some cash left over but it's clearly not the case. I could see her being the one to leave when she sees no money and he has released a track or some bs.
I know we are all aware of Jonny being abusive but I reckon that Taylor is not in it for love either.
No. 462758
>>462745eh, I think she THINKS/has deluded herself into believing she's in love.
And as for drawers/racks, they CAN be okay. But they're usually pretty shitty. Even ball pythons need room to move around and a couple enrichment objects. They may not use it as much as colubrids, but they need the option. All snakes, nocturnal or not, need enough light to establish a day/night cycle.
Similarly, there are plenty of tanks/terrariums that fail to meet these requirements as well, with the added negative of giving the snake no privacy.
But yeah, especially with active colubrids and arboreal species, shallow tubs with no light, no enrichment, no climbing features, DO NOT CUT IT. Keeping snakes like burms, retics, or anacondas in racks is just fucking disgusting. I'm sure soon we'll see Taylor showing off a snake in a drawer it fills half of when totally coiled. Ugh.
No. 462845
>>462781Taylor has to have had the most sheltered childhood in existence. I'm not going to doubt she probably dated a lot of people, but she tries to make it sound like she hung out exclusively with druggies and abusive dudes (i.e. "I went looking for friends in all the wrong places")
No one who has spent an extensive amount of time around a drug addicts and abusers would be this naive and stupid. Especially one that's continuing to be abusive to past people he dated.
She's either lying completely to make herself seem more vulnerable and tortured (which apparently is the "in" thing right now with white girls) or she has the most severe case of Stockholm Syndrome I've ever
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Ended up looking through Amanda's Instagram account and figured I'd leave this here. Unsure if it's been posted before but it's pretty similar to what he just said about Taylor.
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>>462878There is also this, which is quite sad. Bet she would feel weird about seeing it, although she probably already has
No. 462883
>>462781I think you're overestimating a little bit. Bands don't make money, least of all these post-hardcore types. Most of the time they barely make enough to even justify touring, and it's extremely difficult to break even.
I imagine he's getting some royalties from old tracks but those would be split between the 500 people he's worked with over the years - other band members, producers, the label, etc.
So yeah, he's definitely making enough to fund a drug habit (probably not as much or as often as he would like,) but he doesn't have like… any finances or assets at all.
No. 462907
>>461955EXACTLY. Motherfucker straight up looks like Scut Farkus from A Christmas Story. On his own, minus the bad tats, missing teeth and visible stench, he is fucking ugly. He'd have to have a mighty nice personality and fat wallet to overcome such an appearance.
Now let's factor in the drug abuse, lack of money, missing teeth, overt stupidity, lack of education, verifiable history of abuse, verifiable history of rape, history of exploiting women for money, history of being unable to make sustainable money via music and at least two restraining orders.
Where do I sign up, right? What self-respecting woman wouldn't move this specimen into her home full of animals that rely on her for their well-being and buy him an expensive bed and new teeth? We're all clearly missing the point - being beaten black and blue and financially exploited by someone so ugly Screech from Saved by the Bell is Prince Fucking Charming in comparison is the new black, y'all!
And if he "accidentally" kills one of your kittens? That's just how kids propose these days. So romantic!
No. 462910
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Jonny Boy is going on tour next month! Place your bets folks, how long until he cheats on Tay while on the road?
No. 462918
>>462910It's going to be embarrassing when they push back the album release yet again.
Is it just me or is this a ridiculously clustered tour schedule? They're in a different city literally every night. And VA fag here, Canal Club is a really small venue, especially compared to the National in Richmond. Any other show-going anons that can comment on the other venues? (OT but I was going to compare it to the Hat Factory and the Kingdom also but apparently both of those have shut down. Bygone are my teen scene punk days. I'm truly getting older.)
No. 462923
>>462883Oh I know. I'm sorry if it came across as me implying he gets the millions, but Amanda and Chelsea have said he does get good cash from the tours. That's why they go on tour so often.
It's not a lot to get him settled, that's for sure. Not to mention he has a criminal record and can't be on leases and shit, but it is enough for him to blow on drugs and superficial things until he runs out again.
which is happening
>>462910 again
No. 462926
>>462887"Love bombing is an attempt to influence another person with over-the-top displays of attention and affection. We’re not just talking about romantic gestures, like flowers and trips. Love bombing invariably includes lots of romantic conversation, long talks about “our future,” and long periods of staring into each other’s eyes. It’s the combination of words and deeds that makes love bombing so powerful, especially considering today’s technology.
The ability to call, text, email, or connect on social media 24/7 makes it easier to be in constant contact with the object of one’s affection than ever before.
Love bombing works because humans have a natural need to feel good about who we are, and often we can’t fill this need on our own. Sometimes the reason is situational, brought on by an event, like divorce or job loss. Other times, it’s more constant and traces back to our childhood. Whatever the source, love bombers are experts at detecting low self-esteem, and exploiting it.
The paradox of love bombing is that people who use it aren’t always seeking targets that broadcast insecurity for all to see. On the contrary, the love bomber is also insecure, so to boost their ego, the target must at least seem like a great “catch.” Maybe she’s the beautiful woman, who’s lonely because her beauty intimidates people, or he’s the guy with the great career whose wife left him for his best friend, or she’s the hard-nosed businesswoman, who’s avoided marriage and motherhood because her childhood was so traumatic."
Thought I'd drop this here. Sage for blogging but I feel like this might also come in handy as general awareness.
No. 462941
>>462928Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ordinarily but he's a one-trick pony and his MO is using and cheating. That's been pretty consistent over the years. Although he does also do a fair amount of cocaine and drinks a LOT, so pick your preferred cocktail that can make the magic happen but it's a pretty fair bet he's going to be cheating.
Hell, it kind of got buried in the last thread with all the newfaggotry but he's already been accused of cheating on Taylor while she was visiting him in LA, with some snapchat "proof" of it.
No. 463022
>>462781There are different kinds of intelligence. Taylor's good at twisting facts, rugsweeping, and manipulation. It's part of why she and Jonny get on so well. They're both con artists. They know how to play people.
I just think it's a matter of waiting to see which of the two comes out on top.
No. 463047
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This is what was posted in regards to the "cheating" it's extremely weak, there are no dates.
I'm not saying I doubt he would cheat on her, but that evidence didn't get much attention last thread for a reason.
No. 463050
>>463015>>450704 is the proof in the last thread. I think it's completely unsubstantiated, but.
http://archive.is/wLjGs is the tweet in question.
No. 463061
>>463047You beat me to it. I agree though, and I never understood why that picture of JC in the ambulance was included in the photoset. He hasn't been in the hospital recently, not since like… August.
I also scoured social media trying to find the blue-haired girl or an Allison or an Angelo and I had zero luck.
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Best couple ever!! True soulmates
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Why did the San Antonio venue change?
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What a surpriseee
No milk for us today.
No. 463317
>>462910March 3 shit boy is coming to town…. hmmmm…. might get some good tea XD
(Sage for an idea)
(XD) No. 463318
>>462910The fuck is POPS? Guess they're not big enough to even get "The Pagent" where DGD played along with BVB, AA, FIR, PATD, And all his other bands
(Sage for shitposting)
(read the rules & usage info) No. 463322
>>462910OHMYGOD I was actually planning on going on March 3 until I found out it's in fucking EAST ST LOUIS??? FUCK NO. I'm a white bitch, I'm sorry no new tea from that place. I'm NOT getting shot.
For all those who don't know, east St Louis is like Compton, gehto, every body who lives there knows somebody who's been shot.
I'm straight up putting $100 down that his tour van thing will get robbed??
(Sage for shitposting)
(don't use emojis) No. 463556
>>463553I agree with you. She listens to Jake Paul now.
Plus, Downtown Battle Mountain came out in 2007 so Taylor was 10 years old? I kind of find it unlikely that the world’s most sheltered girl was listening to that of all things, especially without an older sibling to introduce her to it (for instance my 20 year old sister has listened to more than her fair share of JC, but that’s because I was the one driving her to school.) I mean MAYBE she did the “hardcore”-lite whatever you want to call it Sleeping with Sirens phase, but I think it’s more likely she just heard of him through whatever loose clout connection he hasn’t with Post Malone, binge-listened to his songs and pretended to be a fan.
I mean seriously, I think a lot of people who listened to him when they were younger KNEW about all of his shit. I know I did. I was so excited to finally see DGD in 2012 only to find out Jonny had been to rehab AGAIN and kicked out of the band AGAIN and Tillian Pearson was filling in. AP Mag (bless my scene girl heart) would run an article every few months about what a piece of shit he was. His fans KNEW, is basically my point, and the fact that Taylor had to be personally told what a garbage shit stain he was is just… Telling to me.
>Inb4 defensive tweet about how she was ~le biggest fan~ No. 463612
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>>463603Okay so like… Dance Gavin Dance? Emarosa? Isles & Glaciers? Ghost Runner on Third? My point being is that he's not really a defining feature for any of his projects (besides his solo album, obviously) because he got kicked out of all of them. He only shows up on one or two albums out of the ~six albums that the majority of these bands have. Saying she "listened to Jonny Craig" is so nebulous.
Also no offense, because I know a lot of people here WK her as the "helpless mother," but her mom is basically Margo. I can't find where she said this because woman tweets as much as most people blink and I didn't watch her livestreams, but in general a lot of what she says should be taken with a grain of salt.
No. 463620
>>463556I wasn’t a sheltered kid by any means but I grew up in a circumstance where I just didn’t have any friends, so I spent a lot of time by myself on YouTube which introduced me to everything from MCR to Escape the Fate to Seether or Slipknot, so her listening to it as kid ain’t unheard of (especially if she basically lived her life online)
It’s just weird to me that after she got with him, she hasn’t mentioned his music again.
No. 463645
>>463620I agree, I think it's weird. Since they're oh so ~in love~ you'd think she would make a big deal about the
only thing he works towards besides drugs.
I also don't really believe she actually listened to him, otherwise she would have made a bigger deal about it, but just my opinion. Maybe she only listened to a couple songs, who knows. Guiltily I still listen to old DGD, cause muh nostalgia and you have to admit his singing is good. The fact that he fucked up so many opportunities really boggles my mind. I saw DGD with its newest singer in Orlando and they were
still at a better venue than he is playing now. It's a shame. And kind of funny because he could have ended up with sooooo much money and its nobody's fault but his.
No. 463647
>>462910lol tickets to his show are 15$
im totally going
how exciting
No. 463765
>>463725I really don’t think they’re going to make any money lol. All of these venues have 250-300 capacity and all of the tickets are like $10-$15. Split that between the label, the bus driver/plane tickets, the venues, merch people, the 4 other bands and his own band members, and like…. he’s not going to see much of anon’s $15.
Plus harassing him or even flirting with him makes $15 cheap entertainment kek. Pull a Vix, anon, get us that milk.
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This is probably a HUGE reach, but this popped up in my Instagram explore feed. Now I have no idea who Petgalore95 is, but every other comment is “is that Taylor Nicole Deans bindi?” “Did Taylor give away her skink?” Now the original poster claims this skink came from someone who couldn’t care for it anymore, and states that there’s no way it could be Taylor’s because OP is from Canada. But who knows. I just thought this was a little too interesting…
No. 463802
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Taylor's bindi has white legs.
Wouldn't be surprised if she gives her away or already has at this point, since she bonds with absolutely 0 of her pets and they're basically accesories to her outfit or personality.
No. 463847
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No sign of the new YouTube video Taylor promised yesterday. No sign of Taylor or Jonny on social media at all. Which Taylor’s Mum is commenting on…Guess they are sleeping off the heroine today.
No. 463856
>>463854I mean it’s kind of milky because I was just about to mention to same thing.
If she doesn’t upload it by noon tomorrow her time I really can’t wait for that excuse
No. 463880
>>463856She can't even blame her medical conditions on it at this point.
Anons who have EDS, Celiac, or any of the other disorders she claims to have, is their medication for them and is a side effect of those medications to make you tired/low-motivation? I never understood what she meant by "I'm sick so I can't make videos," when supposedly her pain threshold is so high she can break things and not even realize it. Unless she intentionally ingests gluten and makes herself sick.
No. 464028
UGH lets not start the internet diagnosing her again, please?
I have EDS (hEDS, same type she does) and assuming she has it or something similar, she could have other symptoms or med side effects that cause her to have trouble finishing things, but maybe not to this extent.
I know a lot of people with EDS and we have issues due to pain/fatigue/allergy/GI type symptoms, but I've never really heard of low-motivation actually being a symptom. Usually we want to do shit but are too tired/in pain. There aren't really medications that cure/treat EDS as a whole, but I'm on something like 25 pills a day to control symptoms. My side effects are minimal though. Pain alone can cause fatigue though, and it's hard to get things done on a schedule when you're always in pain or always fatigued. Also pain tolerance can fluctuate. Idk if that's what's happening with her, or if she ever had the pain tolerance she says or just wanted to sound tough or whatever, but sometimes your body gets fatigued and stops dealing with pain as well as you usually can.
With EDS (or Celiac or depression or whatever) it definitely makes sense she'd have trouble getting videos out if she were spending hours and hours filming and editing, but as it's already been discussed how little time she seems to need to actually put into scripting/editing her videos, I doubt they really take THAT much energy or motivation even when she is symptomatic. Especially since youtube is her "job" so theoretically the main focus of her time should just be on getting at least 1-2 videos out a week.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
No. 464049
>>463556Real quick, i know I’m a few hours late to reply but she does have an older brother. He’s just forgotten about. I know Taylor’s mom is not his biological mom. He is biologically related to Taylor’s Dad. I’m not sure if he’s from a precious marriage or what.
Not defending her at all but just making sure everyone’s facts are straight so no one can come and attack anyone and saying we don’t know what we’re talking about
Sage for random fact
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No. 464105
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oh my god
No. 464223
>>464181Def heroin withdrawals
Or she's just being a lazy fuck. I have chronic severe migraines and still go to work. The pain is so bad I get suicidal but I can't sleep all day and not finish my work.
(blogging) No. 464330
>>464284I actually don't mind the name out of context. Morphine has a pretty, but dark sound to it.
For Taylor while with Jonny, I think it's a horrible name.
No. 464376
>>464095you know what those symptoms sound like? The kind of withdrawal you get early in a dope habit, like after a few weeks of regular but maybe not daily use. And even if her condishunz are every bit as bad as she said, yeah, mild withdrawal would
trigger every one of them.
This making promises about getting shit done and then failing to fulfill them because she's sick/sleeping is CLASSIC junkie behavior.
Source: one of the many ex-junkie anons in this thread. To all y'all who've posted already, congrats on your sobriety. We can do this. Taylor and JC's behavior is all the inspiration I need to stay sober, rofl.
No. 464383
>>464104Holding pacmans occasionally is okaaaaayish. But the way she's holding him is a great way to let your frog jump off your hand and injure itself. Gdi taylor, stop posing with your pets as props.
>>464105and stop posing as some kind of expert on animals you don't own or have only owned (shoddily) for five minutes. He specifically asked for a professional, and you are a goddamn highschool dropout ex-petco employee. smh…
also, with the snake name, she is so flippant about the issue of addiction. like all the people telling her its a serious thing and not a cute name for a snake are the crazy/stupid ones.
>>464223yes, absolutely. and given the circumstances, living with a known junkie who we KNOW is at least drinking and smoking weed while lying about being sober…yeah. fucking hell. there's no way drugs aren't involved.
also, there's a good chance she's been taking pills for her ~condishunz~ for years, and already has a taste for opiates. everything about her screams junkie in the making. her past, her health, her shit decision making, everything.
No. 464551
>>464410It is a stupid explanation. I don’t think people associate snakes with pain. I guess I live on the east coast where there are only maybe four species of venomous snakes so maybe it’s different here, but people don’t avoid snakes because they’re afraid of pain. They avoid them because they’re fucking creepy. Fascinating, awesome creatures but ultimately a little unnatural. Maybe it’s in a biblical context that the snake can’t disassociate from the serpent in the garden of Eden. So yeah, somewhere between “this thing could maybe kill me” and “weird ass limbless animal nothing but spine can race across the ground, swim, and climb, covered in scales, sees with its tongue, etc.” people tend to avoid them.
The whole pain/morphine thing is so half-baked it’s like she was trying to be an edgelord.
No. 464555
>>464551I think she came up with it on the spot. I would think people would be more worried about a snake being venomous (regardless if the species actually is or not..) than …pain? I mean sure, it must sting to get bitten, but it's not a stereotype to get pain killers from a snake bite?? Correct me if I'm wrong though.
She just wanted to name it Morphine because it's edgy. Literally that's it. She's already in this "I'm not like other girls" stage, why not tack on the edgy-ness too.
No. 464578
>>464555>>464551Her explanation is basically "it's a stereotype snakes hurt people so i'll name her after a painkiller" when:
1. For morphine to be needed, someone needs to be in pain. That's the whole point of "painkiller"
2. A snake's fangs piercing your skin is going to hurt regardless if it's a baby or a full-grown venomous killer, it's not some "myth" that snake bites hurt. It's fucking SHARP BONE piercing your skin, occasionally followed by excruciating venom.
She's just one of those people that try and sound deep and come off sounding pretentious
No. 464589
>>464551>>464578We know what she was trying to do. It's just that normally, the thing that comes to mind when you think about snakes, isn't "pain." Did you even read the posts damn lol
>She's just one of those people that try and sound deep and come off sounding pretentiousThat's exactly what
>>464555 &
>>464551said
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No. 464709
>>464702Probably. Are you surprised?
I wouldn't be surprised if she does. I wouldn't be surprised if she has rehomed Bindi, her tarantula (forgot she even had one), her bettas, etc.
Also, no new update on the kittens today… I'm blocked on Jonny's Twitter so I can't see his things
No. 464715
>>464709No not surprised, just sad for the snake. Well…sadder for the snake.
>>464710Wow. Just wow. Is that…..irresponsibility or just "idgaf" or….I don't even know.
No. 464717
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>>464105First result lmao she probably just googled it
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here’s the tweet from taylor’s older brother another amon was talking about. it’s from when the drama with taylor’s mom first started going public i believe
No. 464831
>>464578I was thinking too, any aggravated dog’s bite is going to be way more painful than a non-venemous snake bite, so why is her “service dog” named Kida and not Codeine?
It’s just stupid. She’s really not bright.
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>>464839With a quick flick of a yellow filter in Photoshop, I found some more insight into what the snake is. Two options, it's most likely a yellow belly. AND it might be enchi also. With the yellow patterns starting to appear, I wouldn't be surprised if by March (within 2 sheds of a juvenile ball python) she'll be on a Twitter rant about how her snake "isn't a "/true/"" BEL Super Mojave. The pattern we're seeing now will grow in intensity if it's an enchi. I really don't think it's a "regular" BEL super mojave bred from 2 "regular" BEL super mojaves.
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Another view (yellow is more intense)
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While on the run to find more angles of the BEL I noticed there hasn't been a photo of nemo since Dec 29… We literally have not seen him all year on twitter, nor instagram. The last photo of him on Instagram was at the vets? Has she officially moved on?
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2 things:
1.) He hasn't retweeted anything from Taylor in 5 days. He hasn't talked about her in 5 days
2.) His Twitter is deemed "not advertiser friendly"
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I'm not joking, his face was deemed as sensitive content
No. 464871
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I'm trying to get better about sageing (sorry guys, newfag issues)
No. 464881
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>>464866I was mistaken then. I've been searching forums and websites all night figuring out what the heck that snake is. I found a couple of places that list a "Super Mojave Yellow Belly."
No. 464901
>>464899Both of them are awkard af. I dont even know why they collab, everytime they try it they end up looking very miserable and cringe.
Like that video when Taylor was talkin about the hotel fiasco with the police and her parents. While the girl that was with her was trying to make the video more fluid Taylor was just looking at the damn popsicle.
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Petsmart anon
They got twisty's things at petsmart. The rock he's sitting on is by All Living Things (a petsmart affiliated brand)
https://www.petsmart.com/reptile/habitats-and-decor/habitat-decor/all-living-things-red-rocks-reptile-platform-37992.html?cgid=500116As soon as I saw that coloring I knew lol. So I guess they're no longer going to petco?
No. 464979
>>464908I imagine if any of the rescues followed up on the kitten being 'adopted' at such a young age she is too embarrassed to show her face there.
More likely, she's been reading here
No. 465081
>>464881That’s okay anon! I’m just a BP genetics autist. You’re right, that does look like it, and the Ivory snakes tend to have black eyes while the Super Mojaves are a true BEL, and hers does seem to have “blue” eyes (not actually blue blue, but translucent.)
So as far as BPs go she has a female Super Mojave YB, a male Pastel Pied named Maui, a male Albino Pied named Tate, and a male Fire Pastel (aka Firefly) Clown named Louis.
With respect to breeding she really didn’t make good investments. She’s not going to get any “designer” morphs from any of those pairings, but she’s BFFLs with Brian Barczyk so he could always loan her a stud, I guess. I don’t know if she’s going to breed them but at a certain point it’s like what exactly are you getting out of owning that many ball pythons?
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sorry I wasn't sure how to upload all of these at the same time, but I thought it was odd that he recently liked a bunch of Em's posts on Twitter
No. 465102
>>465091Can’t wait for her next excuse. I grew up with chronic health stuff and I’ve finished term papers while laying on my side because I was in too much pain to sit up properly. Sitting on camera for ten minutes and waiting for shit to export and upload should not take that much out of her.
She didn’t start talking about her conditions to “show fellow sufferers they aren’t alone :)”
She does it as an excuse.
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also here are few tweets from Taylor on December 21st where I feel like it's very very obvious that Jonny is tweeting for her, I have never witnessed Taylor cuss towards her fans. I also shared these with Taylor's mom who said she couldn't help the situation and hopefully her fans could get through to her because she couldn't. She agreed that the tweets were very unlike Taylor. I could post her reply but idk if that goes against the anonymity here.
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No. 465113
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also never ever have I seen her threaten to kill an animal
No. 465115
>>465113Not meant to be a spoiler. Clicked on accident
Sage for no new info? I put sage in the subject but idk if I needed to place it in the reply as well.
No. 465116
>>465109>>465113i think it's just jonny's style rubbing off on her. bit of a stretch to say it is him.
>>465115sage goes in the email field
No. 465149
>>465128And young, impressionable people her age often take after their first few SOs in how they speak, their sense of humor, and how they act. A subconscious way of trying to impress them. I did it too when I was a year younger than her. It’s very normal for her to be sounding a bit more like him.
That also means there’s a higher chance of him influencing her in other ways, though, such as what people have been saying about irresponsibility and even drug use. And stuff like being more callous about her cats (poor Nemo).
No. 465166
>>465094Oh trust me I'm not suggesting she breed them. I don't even think they'll live in her care long enough to make that possible. She'll have killed or rehomed them all before the female is at a suitable breeding weight.
I just think that's her plan, with the emphasis she put on "look at my FEMALE and MALE snake I bought from the expo look how well the get along!" She is the world's greatest animal expert after all, and all the qualifications she thinks she needs for anything is just a google search away.
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The firefly clown she got is way to over priced. $2200? I found them online for no more than $1500
No. 465203
>>465194She got it at an expo, which usually has the lowest prices.
She also got it in October and snakes drop in price pretty quickly because they are being produced so much.
No. 465219
>>465102One of the beauty YouTubers I watch has chronic migraines 5 days a week and still uploads consistently multiple videos a week.
Taylor is not an adult and will fail hard when her YouTube career ends.
No. 465342
>>465150Do we even know what she named the crab? Saw her ask about it but she never made a video introducing it or whatever
But yeah what
>>465242 said she probably got it killed or something. Seemed like an impulse buy so I doubt she knows how to take care of it
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No. 465658
>>465649>>465640Or just… L A Z I N E S S.
INB4 more ~*But muh illnus!*~
No. 465664
>>465421You can find hundreds of threads like these with disappointed fans. I am a DGD fan, but never liked Jonny. When DGD and Slaves toured together I was front row waiting for DGD, he kicked our shit at us from behind the amp that security told us could be there, and then noticed my 12 year old sister looked uninterested in his music and stroked her face and kissed me on the cheek (I was also underaged). He looked all sorts of fucked up on stage and made a beeline for the bar next door after his set right after preaching about his sobriety.
Sage for blogging
No. 465740
>>465734I've heard horror stories of people accidentally drowning moon crabs overnight (and other species of crab) because people are idiots and assume that they can just survive completely submerged in water with no way to escape to dry land. That could be one theory.
Or she completely cracked the poor thing open by dropping it while waving it around and trying to pose with it for her dumb instagram post
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Here’s where she claims to not have him out. Sorry for repeating this post, just wanted to make sure no one is confused on why the video is proving her wrong
Sage for repeats?
No. 465823
>>465786em is everything taylor should be, but isn't.
>>465802can't debunk this now huh
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This was a reply to her tweet a few days ago with pictures of "Ghost" (the ragdoll kitten) playing. Why won't she show Nemo too? I still think it's because he looks so ill next to the healthy one, but also this one's ~designer~
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Does it bother anyone else that she answers drama but not her fans literally asking for her help? The only people who actually receive help from her are twitter verified. Why continue to address drama if you’re trying to be ~drama free!!1!~ and not answer those who actually support you?
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No. 465883
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More ignored posts
No. 465888
>>465874Yes, and no.
Yes because her fans clearly look up to her as an expert, but no because she is obviously NOT an expert and they'd have better luck googling.
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Wut? Is he talkinh about tour or something more intimate with taylor
No. 465960
>>465852"too sick to sit down and click buttons"
Wow Taylor your life is so fucking hard. I hate when people play off their illness as an excuse. A lot of people have chronic illness and do a lot more than film and edit for an hour every month.
>>465883Why do these idiots tweet some idiot instead of going to the vet??? Not eating is a serious sign of something wrong.
No. 465962
>>465852So if she's too sick to edit a video for five days, are all of the animal care tasks that need to be done daily going undone as well?? I'd be curious to know how often her parents had to help her with animal care when she was still at home
Sage because this has probably already been mentioned before? Not sure, newfag
No. 465995
>>465962I can guarantee if someone tweeted this to her, and she actually responded, she would say Jonny is there to care for her & her animals.
Taylor is giving Kalel a run for her money for title of most infrequent and sporadic Youtuber upload schedules.
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>>465852lol this guy calling her out abd this idiot acting like, out of hundreds of thousands of Youtubers, Taylor is the only one with chronic health problems or conditions. There is a beauty blogger with no arms and legs who is able to edit and upload more than Taylor
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No. 466182
>>466170Put sage in the email field so you don't bump the thread.
And she has never been too sick to go to LA, get a tattoo, go to a reptile show, etc. She's only sick when she has to do "work".
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Finally, but wait… there's more
No. 466209
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(More)
No. 466236
>>465802HAHAHA, good job anon. This is amazing.
Also all the "too sick to edit" bullshit… Lol, when most people are dealing with chronic illness, all they CAN do is sit/lay and press buttons… That's certainly all I did. And if it was migraines or something where she didn't want to be staring at a screen, she wouldn't be tweeting all the time.
No. 466246
>>465852obviously an illusion to dope sickness because we've already seen the heroin texts, but if shes vomiting and actually ill i can understand her not editing.
she better get over it soon tho because without that youtube money what is she worth to her scummy bf
No. 466250
>>466231She also has this video where she spotlights the Amanda Foundation, which is a rescue org for dogs and cats.
Pet YouTubers in general do this virtue signaling thing where they like to bash mainstream pet stores for the horrible treatment of animals and how horrible the exotic pet trade can be, but don't want to seem hypocritical so they parrot the whole "adopt, don't shop" mantra for the clout. But it's very clear that the statement only means "dogs and cats" to them, because all of them make videos of themselves going to expos and showcasing animals that there is NO way they were able to find it in a shelter.
I would prefer they adopted animals, but I'm not gonna get
triggered over her buying something (even though her obsession with having "designer" pets is weird) I just wish she'd be honest about it.
No. 466312
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hi taylor
No. 466341
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No. 466343
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more blood stains on the pillow it looks like
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>>466344it's still kinda hard to tell but it looks like there might be blood on his sleeve and a drop on the blanket
No. 466390
>>466373yup. HOWEVER, I think it's a little tinfoily because…haven't any of y'all ever had a zit? I DO think she's doing drugs, since how else can anyone be THAT lazy, but I'm not sure she's shooting up.
those tiny little spots don't look like the kind of blood splatter when someone pulls a needle out of a big vein with the tourni still on and it shoots out everywhere. It seriously just looks like someone had a zit, lol.
now, dope does make you itchy as fuck, which can make you scratch at scabs…
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No. 466447
>>466433>>466434I don't know shit about EDS but as a person with other shitty chronic health problems, I don't understand how she claims to be so overconfident in her abilities.
Like I take my meds I know I'm going to be feeling some type of way afterwards, I do a specific activity I know that if I don't need an immediate flare up it's going to hit me like a train tomorrow. I start feeling symptoms, I know I'm gonna be useless and on bed rest within an hour or two.
For someone who's dealt with the same shit for 15+ or however many years since she was a kid, it's like she doesn't know her own body at all. Or she's just massively overreacting how bad her symptoms are.
and like other people pointed out already, she somehow finds the energy to clean 20+ animal cages but can't edit a video that she claims is already filmed?
No. 466449
>>466447Yup. One of these is more active than the other.
I have EDS, like her, and other health problems, and still managed to hold down a p/t job editing brochures from home.
No. 466453
>>466393Yeah anon with EDS here and unless she has some extreme but very intermittent joint problems in her hands (in which case she especially shouldn't be handling her animals like she does) that's bullshit she can't even edit the video.
Maybe I'm just being paranoid but I hope that if she is in some level of a real flare, it isn't because Jonny is being physically abusive now.
No. 466480
>>466453If she has pain in her hands then why is she tweeting so much?
All this time wasted on stupid Twitter drama. She could have already edited the video instead. She's just a lazy liar.
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We got confirmation that Jonny purportedly waits on her hand and foot when she’s sick (though I imagine he’s exaggerating and has done it once or twice)
Have him sit at your computer for five minutes and edit your video Taylor that’s how long it takes for you anyway
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Forgot to attach picture lol but new merch
No. 466751
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god, taylor tweeted and deleted a tweet last night before i could cap it. someone mentioned the blood on the pillows and jonny's swollen hands, and she took anons theory and said it was just acne and jonny has gained weight
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No. 466835
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She deleted this tweet
No. 466988
>>466835As someone who gets anxiety when things are “too cluttered” I get the point of deleting certain tweets like if it’s spam or something unimportant
But the amount of stuff she tweets and deletes is really concerning it’s like she’s trying to hide things. Especially since all of the blatantly
problematic shit she posted years ago she thought was okay to leave up
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Uhhh… what just happened?
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lmao
No. 467295
>>467290Suuure Jonny. "
Trigger finger also has a side effect of bleeding through osmosis."
No. 467384
>>467335you can also have swelling in extremities while on dope either from eating nothing but crap or just laying for hours without moving at all. or both. or organ failure. or all three. in any case, these two are a fucking mess.
also, her mom probably purged everything because of criticism regarding her oversharing/being narcissistic or whatever. her behavior actually reminds me of my own mother – strong willed, a little overbearing (out of love), but definitely not a narcissist. She's just freaking the fuck out because she loves her daughter and doesn't want her getting beaten/addicted to smack.
Does anyone else feel like "narcissistic abuse" is insanely overdiagnosed? I swear, its some munchie shit… That said Johnny seems to fit the bill lol. But not tay's mom.
No. 467629
>>467384mostly agreed, but the fact that her mom regularly went on binges posting 10-20 tweets of emo song lyrics indicates a pretty stunted emotional state. reading their interactions made me realize how taylor got so "good" at manipulation.
few people are 100% narcs, many just have tendencies towards it. i'm sure raising a kid with prader–willi syndrome (tay's brother) for over a decade has taken a toll on her mom and everyone in the house. being the primary carer of a person who melts down any time they don't get their way (consequence of prader-willi) HAS to do some crazy shit to your parenting abilities. seems natural it would push you toward being extremely indulgent/enabling but overprotective/controlling at the same time. recipe for a kid who is desperately codependent but also resentful and rebellious.
definitely a fucking mess.
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No. 467905
>>467889I'm more concerned about her permanently keeping them locked in the bathroom than the size of her apartment.
I honestly think she keeps them locked in there and only takes them out for pictures. She locked her other animals in the closet and showed it off in her video as if it was good animal care.
No. 467974
>>467933YEP exactly, and she probably is so busy playing victim she doesn't think her fans will put it together.
Her fish and some of the reptiles are probably okay without daily maintenance, since they don't need feeding/cleaning every day, but the mammals definitely aren't. Especially those poor kittens.
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What’s with her using ‘ima’ all the time, does she think she is Kanye now. Definitely Jonny’s influence. Nothing is more ridiculous than Jonny’s ‘bet’ ‘ get got’ etc. most try hard immature bullshit I have ever seen from a 31 year old. No wonder he only dates 18-21 year olds.
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I think it’s a little strange that Taylor’s friend (one of the few and only) hates Jonny with a passion. Taylor and her have tweeted to each other a few times but everything Taylor has said about her has since been deleted of course
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I cant believe no one has commented on how bloated his poor belly is other than saying "awwwww look at his fat lil belly!!" Bloating like this is more than likely a sign of intestinal/internal parasites.
No. 468394
>>468388Male cats have nipples too.
>>468373His tummy is so bloated it's hard to look at. I feel bad for the poor thing.
No. 468396
>>467903My main problem with the space thing is that she won't have the space or the decent to provide multiple feeding stations, sleeping stations, toy stations and whatever else. These cats will probably be encouraged to be together 24/7 which normally doesn't go too well with cats. You can keep cats in small apartments as long as you have enough stations for them to use.
Personally I also think she will have some trouble setting these stations up. Her fish tanks probably take up a fair bit of room and everything else added together will also take some space up. I'm not saying she won't be able to fit it all in but it may end up looking very overcrowded which is teh last of the many issues.
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No. 468584
>>468373This poor baby needs to be taken away from her. He's very sick, he's probably extremely uncomfortable. Bloating like that is a definite sign of parasites. I'm beyond disgusted.
Sage for no new content.
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No. 468599
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>>468580considering how much she tweets and deletes stuff, i have them sent to my email now
No. 468626
>>468597tbh the merch actually looks cute and an upgrade compared to the cheese merch
wheres the new video btw? lmao
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No. 468760
>>468716“Editing super hard”
She said she finished editing yesterday. Also, what the hell is so difficult about you editing? You edit jump cuts and add in music, that’s it. You don’t slave in front of a computer for six hours.
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No. 468881
>>468878Someone pointed this out a while gao when she was showing her tanks. She only spoke of three betas.
She either tried to replace him or forgot he was even in there to begin with. The late update is just odd.
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of course she did you have pretty much a designer skink…
and we all know how much she loves designer pets
No. 468931
>>468795lol, i love how she's copped that faux black BS from Johnny, who probably copped it from interacting with his dealers and thinking he's some hard ass gangsta. (not racist, just if you're buying heroin regularly in any US major city, the dealer is probably black, and many white junkies embarrassingly try to emulate the way they speak)
coming from taylor it's even more cringe than johnny.
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No. 469052
>>469017i actually really, really enjoyed this video. it was great seeing the snakes and the kittens.
one thing that did disappoint me though was how she glossed over her new red beardie… i was hoping she would address the criticism shes been getting because his enclosure is really not up to snuff. she kinda just showed him and said what he was and cut to the next animal, whereas every other pet got a little more attention and words said about them
No. 469054
>>469052I agree, but I hated how at almost every animal she warns they shouldn't be handled or put in bright lights or anything and proceeds to do the exact same thing she warned not to do. I know a few seconds of handling shouldn't hurt them but her younger audience will probably say "she does it so I can do it too".
>>469036Yes, the angle of the crab was definitely going against gravity.
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What is that's scab lmao
No. 469067
Funny how many points of her animal 'care' seemed to come from this thread. At least she seems to be somewhat listening though..
Any anon's can comment on the spider enclosure? I know there were some issues with it last time, but don't know if she fixed them?
>>469052Pretty sure she glossed over it because it's Johnny's 'pet'. Probably somewhat subjected to his whims and what little money he has as such.
>>469059She said it was from getting pizza out of the oven. Looks like an oven burn to me too. Particularly common in folks moving out for the first time lol.
No. 469154
>>469124Not from the US, so can anyone clarify on how a service dog can be a rescue dog that was too nervous for 5 months to even behave like a normal dog?
Dogs have strict training from puppies here and a lot of puppies don't even make the cut because they're too distracted/too playful/nervous etc.
To me it seems like they adopted (if they did indeed get that dog from a shelter and not a breeder; correct me again if I'm wrong, but that dog looks high content breed not mixed mutt) and they just claim it to be a service dog when it's not.
No. 469241
>>469195Or it could be that she just knows that she is lying /bullshitting directly to the camera. At the part where she explains the situation with her former service dog Kida, she looks extremely nervous and fidgety.
Her hands were also shaky as fuck throughout the video, but that could be due to multiple things… medication, not having eaten for a while, lack of sleep, anything really. Can't be sure what that's about.
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this showed up on my timeline from one of my mutuals. i think people are catching on
No. 469281
>>469017She sounds desperately bored and irritated the ENTIRE time, like she resents having to make videos at all.
Feels like she just went around harassing her animals. Had zero patience with any of them. Probably the first time she's paid real attention to the less marketable ones in a long time.
Why are her hands so twitchy, btw? Her movements are erratic, esp when holding all the snakes she said it was a BAD idea to hold. Why do neither of her crested geckos have tails? What's wrong with her leopard gecko's eyes? Neither cat seems particularly energetic. Nemo looks glazed over.
That whole vid just made me sad. Why keep so many animals if you resent having to care for them?
No. 469312
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Teeth differences
No. 469314
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No. 469318
>>469314She looks wrecked here (where is this from?), but it's more the underbite movement's she's doing with her lower jaw that is weird af and not present in her other videos but present in this latest one.
>>469192You can see here her lower teeth are in front of her top teeth.
No. 469321
>>469281
>Why do neither of her crested geckos have tails?They drop them when scared and they don't grow back. Not surprised hers have both lost their tails with the way she handles.
>Feels like she just went around harassing her animals. Had zero patience with any of them.Agreed.
No. 469322
>>469318From her "bathing all my pets" video I think
True, there's definitely some fuckery happening with her mouth
No. 469424
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>>469412Exactly this… and we know Johnny boy smokes (+recently). Not really much of a reach.
No. 469427
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In her NEW YEAR, NEW PETS video, her hedgehogs back nails are super long.
And it's really important to clip a hedgehogs nails, since it hurts them.
And she obviously doesn't take care of it, since they shouldn't have grown that long to begin with.
No. 469563
I noticed Taylor's developed more of a lisp in recent videos(lol the few from the past 4 months). I think it's a combination of lip filler and the obvious veneers
>>469312>>469314I think if everyone is so caught up in her using, they're going to be reaching really hard for telling signs when really we had enough evidence in the texts to Jonny's ex and well, that she's dating Jonny Craig.
No. 469605
>>469582You mean the biocube? It's only 30 gallons, and she might be rounding up because 28 and 29 are more standard sizes for biocubes.
She really needs to upgrade all her fish tanks. Cheese and the naso tang need a much bigger tank than 150, and the predator tank isn't really big enough for three fish. Maybe if she JUST had Zazu in there. The freshwater tank doesn't seem overstocked, but anyone still keeping betta sororities is willfully ignorant, and I'm not sure about her choice to keep betta, rainbow, AND bushfish together. Someone's likely to get outcompeted for food.
No. 469631
In her new video around 15 minutes in, it looks like her pied python's water dish is empty and he seems to only have one hide. Ball pythons should have at least 2 hides in order to thermoregulate. Also, what the heck was she talking about when she said that her house was the perfect temperature for ball pythons? There should be a heat gradient on upper seventies on one side and around ninety on the other, maybe I missed something.
When she was showing her green tree python she pointed out his shed and discussed that snakes should shed in one piece (which is true), but it's obvious when she was showing the GTP that he had pieces of shed coming up all along his body. It is obvious that he has a bad piecey shed, which means that his humidity is incorrect. It's kind of funny that she was trying to make it seem like he was having a perfect shed when he was on camera with shed poking out everywhere.
Her freshwater community tank is in bad shape in my opinion. The betta fish have raggedy nipped fins which could be them fighting with one another or it could be from other fish, since bettas are slow and bright which makes them targets. Also what the heck is a bushfish doing in there? Besides the fact that the tank is too small for it, they get six inches and are aggressive. None of the other fish in there are good tank mates for a bushfish imo. Also the tang in the 150 gallon is so sad. Ironic how the first video I saw of her was talking about how tangs need at least 300 gallons and now she has a wild caught tang in half that size. He looks like he can barely move around in there.
I get being fascinated with animals, but why buy them if you're not going to take proper care for them? She isn't even providing minimum care for most of them. If she spent less money on designer pets, like her two grand snake and her $600 clownfish and Craigslist kitten, she could have given the pets she already had proper enclosures.
No. 469637
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So I had a thought. Maybe this is why she isn't upgrading her fish tanks. Maybe she isn't allowed to.
If that's the case it's still shitty of her because she should have known ahead of time that an upgrade would be necessary soon.
Sage for old tweet and speculation
No. 469653
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Please no. I swear to god if she comes home with another ball python that she overhandles and doesn't quarantine, I'll loose it
No. 469688
>>469631Unless her hours is 85-87 degrees which is the proper ambient temperature for a ball python then she is painfully mistaken. She doesn’t even have thermometers and hydrometers in there so i doubt she monitors temp or humidity.
And IF her house is actually the proper ambient temp for a ball python then she’s overheating her crested geckos. She really is doing something wrong one way or another.
No. 469812
>>469789Welcome to the club. I was a fan of hers really early on, when it was possible to believe her whole awkward animal loving loner persona. I related to the chronic illness thing too since I dropped out of HS due to IBD/agoraphobia.
But yeah. I think part of the reason people are so upset by her and why there are so many former fans here is because she portrayed herself as something she absolutely is not, never was, and never will be. She isn't a lonely awkward homebody who took refuge in her passion, animals. She's a pathological attention seeker who uses animals as a means to an end. She may even actually believe she loves them the way she pretends to, since they get her what she wants and acquiring them helps her fill the void.
I think one of the most telling things in this WHOLE thread is how she used a poor snake as an accessory for 3 hours at a party, then straight up lied about it – after admitting exactly what she did on video. She's a presidential tier pathological liar, lol.
No. 469848
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She tries so hard to be quirky and ‘not like other girls’ it’s getting painful
No. 469858
>>469851Doesn't matter, both are the same kek
She took her time in Youtube to answered every comment who asked her to get Nemo's stomach check because he was really bloated. She said she takes him aaaall the time and the vet said that's the way his stomach is. Bitch that's not normal. Your other fucking pure breed cat doesn't look like a balloon.
No. 469892
>>469882You honestly think she looked as bad as this?
>>469314Her face is fucked up from her lip fillers but at least she put on non terrible makeup and her hair didn't look like she cut it off with child scissors anymore
No. 469978
>>469962Thank you for saying this. I don't know anything about snakes, but I was still frustrated with the people who defend her saying that the majority of the pets she has don't take a lot of time. I imagine that they don't if you're just throwing food at them and moving on. I know enough about snakes to know you should at least check on the humidity and look for mites and such. Having fish, I look at them several times a day for things like raised scales, curled gill colors, missing scales, or any indication that they are sick. When I feed them, I don't just throw food in. I stand there and watch them eat to make sure there are no leftovers polluting my tank, and also to be sure that they're eating properly. Doing these things doesn't take me just a few minutes.
On another subject, people are so quick to believe Taylor when she says her cats get a clean bill of health for her taking him to the vet aaaall the time. The vet could very well be telling her that she has a sick cat for all we know. The vet also probably doesn't know that she was feeding the kittens on carpet and driving around in the car with them while holding them up in the air like an idiot, so of course he wouldn't tell her she's doing things wrong.
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No. 470004
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sigh
No. 470005
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No. 470065
>>470005I legitimately don't understand how her fans don't put two and two together. She spent all week bitching that ughhh she couldn't get the editing donneeeeeee because illnessesssssss, but has enough energy to go get yet another animal?
As far as I know, snakes are pretty easy to care for, but I'm sure that her zoo must take some time to be taken care of every week, no? And I'm sure as shit Jonny doesn't help either so ?????
No. 470075
>>470005So this is a chimera, right? Or paradox, whatever they call it. Albino Black Pastel or some other keyhole pattern morph. I know there are a few BP spergs ITT.
Paradoxes sell for WAY too much considering it's just a genetic aberration and not an actual morph, i.e. the snake looks cool but cannot pass its coolness to any babies.
No. 470083
>>470005It looks like she went to Repticon Dallas, which is a five hour drive from San Antonio. She probably wasn't "too sick to edit," she was just on vacation.
This bitch!
No. 470153
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The definition of impulse buying.
No. 470187
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Did anyone see one of her fans got a tattoo of her snake? She retweeted it.
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No. 470281
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just transporting it on her lap, no carrying container or anything. i'm baffled at this point
No. 470282
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>>470281people are actually calling her out, no doubt they will all be blocked soon
No. 470290
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No. 470304
>>470294Wasn't he sponsored?
>>470302Except he's in his 30's if I recall correctly.
No. 470305
>>470292Her tattooer should have made that a lot more of fine lines, all of her tattoos need it. The type of lines those sized and placed tattoos should be done thinner because the skin there is much more thin and wrinkly
I’d die if she ended up with a JC tattoo or matching or who knows. Out of any of his girls she seems the dumbest and most naive that she would do that
No. 470342
Dangerous personification. Leads to more dangerous behaviors, Like having the snake around her neck for 3 hrs at a party, and leading her fans to impulse buy ball pythons/the sort.
>>470341Also this too… bad in both ways.
No. 470363
>>470342Yeah, I work at a petstore and I always tell customers that ferrets are "little dogs" on account of how sociable and energetic they are, but that's as far as I go with comparisons.
Calling any reptile a dog is stupid because it'll cause her impressionable fans to treat them like dogs and take them out on stupid little harnesses (or none at all) or try to have them interact with their actual dogs
No. 470374
>>470305I meant the fan's tattoo is OK except the line weight. A bit thin imho and it means the tiny errors are very obvious and overall the look is a bit scratchy.
You're right about Taylor's though, it would have benefited from the reverse, being thinner then the bleeding would have been less obvious.
No. 470421
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>>470345It absolutely ISN'T a banana spider. Looks more like a black pastel banana to me, but definitely not spider. This is a spider banana
No. 470433
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No. 470450
>>470448At this point I think she just lies automatically even when there's no need.
Not sure why she's even bothered about said review either, it's in your face trolling, although I guess it gives her more attention and the poor oh woe is me.
No. 470451
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You can literally see the doors leading to the balcony in her instagram post…
No. 470483
>>470294He's stunned mentally in regards to his age.
He carries himself the same way a high schooler who thinks he's hot shit because he drinks skyy does.
No. 470502
>>470483I am so
triggered by his claims of being sober and reformed while constantly metioning his weed and alcohol problems. And taylors acceptance of his "sobriety".
No. 470538
>>470502I'm fairly certain that behind closed doors the novelty is starting to pass for her. She really has no choice by now but to carry on with the whole "he's sober uwu" act because she knows people will turn on her if she says the contrary.
I'm betting she'll have this whole "The truth about my relationship: New chapter in my life" video after the breakup where she plays the innocent naive girl and people will fall for it lmao.
No. 470592
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And people wonder why her cresties don't have their tails. It's because of shit like this. Yes, crested geckos do drop their tails easily, but stuff like this isn't good for them!!
No. 470595
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From the same video as the last comment, here we have her ksb toast trying to bite her and Tyler. I wonder why? Oh yeah, you put him in a box and felt around and stressed him out. "He's never tried to bite!!¡!!" Man this video is a gold mine how have I never seen this
No. 470716
>>470433Why would she be looking at reviews to begin with?
Just a bit weird..
No. 470762
>>470754People keep mentioning her keeping animals in the closet like its some horrible thing… In reality, plenty of people do it. It allows you to have a quiet, climate controlled environment, away from human activity. You can do things like run one small space heater to keep many enclosures warm, rather than using UTH or CHEs on each individual enclosure. It was Gus the mouse in the closet right? It's probably best for him and the snakes that they can't smell each other.
…of course, I doubt any of this was her motivation. She just wanted somewhere to cram her more boring pet(s), lol.
>>470731Oh god, you're right. That's awful.
Also, I love how she hasn't even gotten stands/furniture… Seriously, what is she doing with her time that she's barely unpacked, has hardly made videos, has such shit enclosures in obvious need of basic shit like plant cover, etc etc etc…
Her freshwater tank is stocked like a 5 year old going into the fish store and pointing at anything pretty. One of these, a couple of those… Literally zero thought put into the compatibility of the species in terms of water chemistry, flow levels, aggression, size… What she should be doing is getting separate 5-10g tanks for the bettas, an adequate tank for the bushfish, and then supplying enough numbers of conspecifics for the schooling/shoaling fish to feel safe. Also didn;t she used to have some guppies? Lol.
But the aquariums aren't even on the list for upgrades, lol. They are 100% the ones most in need of it, her other pets mostly don't need new/bigger cages, just actual proper setups in the ones they have. But then she couldn't BUY stuff, and would have to do actual work to do anything cool like setup terrariums with live plants for her arboreal species, or bioactive cages for her snakes…
No. 470763
>>470762Same anon as 470754 here. Yeah, I actually agree that keeping small, caged animals in a closet isn't inherently bad. I actually kept a rat in a "closet" in my apartment once. Before anyone attacks me….he was the rare loner rat that didn't get along with others. I say "closet" because I kept the door open 24/7, so it was really more an alcove of my bedroom. I don't think there's anything wrong with it. I'm just saying that she WILL find space, even if it means using something not typical like a closet.
I mean, usually you want your pets to be somewhere where they are a part of the family, but I totally hear what you're saying about keeping Gus and the hedgehog separate from some of the other animals.
No. 470787
>>470762Yes, the reason the mouse and hedgehog are in the closet is to prevent the snakes from smelling them. She stated this in the video. Keeping nocturnal animals in such an environment also makes sense.
The baseless screeching in this thread is such an embarrassment at times and undermines legitimate criticism.
No. 470791
>>470787Again….just pointing out that she is using any possible space she could find. Surely there is another room other than the closet she COULD be keeping those animals in. Besides, she has one hedgehog in the same room as the snakes and the other two in the closet. So….why is the male hedgie with the snakes? I know the male hedgie needs to be away from the female hedgies but….he's still with the snakes? That doesn't make sense.
Like I said before, there isn't anything inherently wrong with them being in the closet, since it has a light bulb that she can use for their circadian rhythm. When I first heard that Gus was in the closet, I imagined it was just a dark, unlit closet. THAT would not be okay. But with lighting and proper temperature, I see nothing wrong with it.
No. 470826
>>470787I'd be fine with it if there was proof that she keeps some sort of day/night cycle between them. Yes, they don't really require that day/night cycle like others do but it still adds to some stimulation for the animal. Also, fresh air is great.
I also doubt she interacts with the animals in the closet all that much and I imagine due to a lack of cleaning it stinks. Now, most rodents don't do too well with perfume smells which I find unlikely she doesn't use.
Sure, keep your pets in closets or other remote places but there is a certain standard it should meet,and I doubt she meets that.
No. 470867
>>470865**I just think it's dumb that it's so many of them.
Name a pet after a character in a show or someone you like I don't give a shit, it's just sort of dumb how I see her fans giving her name suggestions all the time and she decides to name something cringy
No. 470873
>>470604To add to what others have mentioned, most pet store betta's are older (and the females especially may have been bred already); 3-5 years is usually the expected anyway regardless of source. 8+ Years would be possible but highly unusual. Like most fish, temperature can effect lifespan, higher temps = shorter life but more active fish etc. Betta are a tropical fish so should always be kept in heated water but how hot that water is can effect their lifespan.
3 years is on the lower end for a betta, but I don't actually think she mistreated the betta (at least from her infrequent videos of him). Snakes / spider / kittens / Bearded Dragon etc is more where the problems are at.
No. 470879
>>470787Airflow is usually a huge issue for rodents (particularly rats), the main issue I see in that cupboard is the lack of it and with a mouse and a hedgehog it could quickly become a problem.
Doesn't she have a three bedroom? I'm sure I saw that on the floor plans she posted.
Why doesn't she move the mouse and hedgehog into that room, or even the hallway, living room or her bedroom?
The apartment's not that small. I think most of the annoyance comes from the fact that she'd rather just stick them in a cupboard like the unwanted pets they possibly are.
No. 470890
>>470879I don't know too terribly much about hedgehogs or mice, but rats are tremendously prone to respiratory problems. Air flow is a major concern in a space like a closet. I really pointed the closet out more to say that she's using every bit of space she can.
But on second thought….why ISN'T she keeping these animals in some other room, if she does in fact have 3 bedrooms? Are the snakes in the living room or one of the spare bedrooms? I don't get it.
No. 470892
>>470890Honestly keeping a hedgehog in a dark room can be
problematic because of the risk of the lack of light cycle causing them to go into hibernation mode which is deadly for them. I mean, if her temps are good she might be ok but why take the risk when you have 3 of them!?
No. 470966
>>470933people can talk about whatever they want relating to her on this thread
stop policing.
No. 470988
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I'm especially wondering about this fish…since she was already saying it was a challenge when she got it. The picture is from Oct 2016.
No. 471034
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from looking at her instagram, I think the target mandarin was left at a pet shop she "trusts" with the seahorses for months for some reason or another, I could find some videos of her visiting them too, but then after that there's pictures of the seahorses back at her house but the fish is not mentioned anymore, which is odd.
Anyway, on the topic of jumping fish I found a picture of her killifish where the caption says she lost "a few" of them (I'd love to know how many) from them jumping to their death.
No. 471100
>>470873I beg to disagree… Yes, the snakes/spiders/kittens/beardies have husbandry issues. But the stocking of her aquariums is horrendous.
>>470989It IS poor care, because any jumpy species should have a secure lid.
>>470980>>471012I'm fairly certain that some of the fish she "gave away" actually just died, lol.
>>471034Yet another basic aquarium fuckup. Killifish aren't community fish. They belong in species only tanks, and even then some species won't tolerate other males. Many killifish people keep them in pairs or trios in small tanks (2-10g, depending on size). If you do this and keep a damn lid on, they're not at all considered a "pain in the butt".
Of course the concept of a species only tank is completely intolerable to her, because then she would have to buy one kind of fish and stick with it without throwing impulse buys in the tank.
No. 471143
http://kaijutegu.tumblr.com/post/139404958163/rest-in-peace-little-jorTaylor reminds of this so much. It might be interesting to any of you who don't know much about snakes.
Sage for OT
No. 471242
>>471138That’s what I was thinking. Same for the majority of the popular pet YouTubers, because a good 90% of the ones with 10+ or more are kids in their early or late 20’s.
Not only are they signing up for basically a lifetime commitment without counting for the fact they might have a S/O and kids one day, but how the hell are any of them going to save money for anything (ie. living on their own, car expenses, budgeting for school, saving up for emergencies) when ALL their money goes to their animals?
Barring Taylor who is probably at an adequate income level as lonh as she slows down with getting snakes and doesn’t make any more ridiculously expensive purchases other than Jonny’s new teeth, most of them are all under 200K which (from my understanding) is still pretty low on the YT cash spectrum.
I saw this video yesterday by Maddie Smith where she openly joked about not getting her car fixed because she had to get more things for her tegu instead.
No. 471342
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>>471242It's clear Taylor has no idea how to budget though. In that video collab with Candace she talked (around 6:50ish) about how you have to make sure you have money to pay rent EVERY month before moving into a place rather than just having money for the first month. She wasn't wrong, but that's about the absolute most basic part of budgeting and she said it like it was a really uniquely wise thing she was imparting on viewers.
No. 471627
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Does anyone else find it strange how she often retweets people praising her? Like instead of just liking it or smthn she has to put it on her profile like "Look at all the people that like me!!1!1"
No. 471644
>>471627I highly doubt Taylor is the nicest person IRL. I understand that lot of super energetic, nice YouTubers are incredibly awkward in person (just from the fact you’re talking to yourself and not having to actually interact with people while you film, that seems to be the common complaint why people don’t want to do YT Rewind)
But she comes across as sarcastic and bitchy in front of the camera so I have to imagine that she’s sarcastic and bitchy in real life. Unless you’re praising her, then she’ll be all over you.
No. 471691
>>471644No, she’s not, but her fans will (and do) straight up lie to her for attention. She retweets positive things like this, so her fans are constantly thirst-tweeting her validation for her terrible choices, poor husbandry, and the fact that she literally kills her animals from neglect (my least favorite is her fans constantly say “you don’t KNOW her, you don’t KNOW what really happened.” You don’t have to personally know someone to see they’re neglecting their animals.)
The least believable part of this - and how you know it’s bullshit - is that Jonny is a nice person. He was visibly drunk at the last reptile convention he was at and in general he’s just loud, arrogant white trash and fucking insufferable.
No. 471739
>>470858Ella (Ella Enchanted)
Kovu (Lion King 2)
Sarabi (Lion King 2)
Dany & Drogo (GoT)
Bindi (Bindi Irwin)
Celia (Monster’s Inc.)
Gucci (Because he's "designer")
Louis Vuitton (Because he's "designer")
Ursula (Little Mermaid)
Cersei (GoT)
>AsteroidToast (The Brave Little Toaster)
>Salem>Pheonix (could be Harry Potter)Gus (Cinderella)
Tate and Violet (AHS)
Maui (Moana)
Ghost (GoT)
Nemo (Finding Nemo)
Mushu (Mulan)
Zazu (Lion King)
>CheeseJust wanted to edit your list with the names associated with characters you missed.
No. 471741
>>470988Probably died shortly after. Mandarins rarely ever feed on frozen, they’re rarely ever “trained” to do so, and you really shouldn’t ever get one unless your constantly adding copepods to the tank (tigger pods are a type of copepod, so I’m not sure why she’s acting like there’s a difference).
This girl literally acts like she’s such a fish pro, but she’s only dealt with them for 3 years and still obviously doesn’t know what she’s doing, especially obvious with her purchases. She just buys things because they “look cool.”
No. 471747
>>471739(Thanks for the additions!) Okay, so at least 19 of her pets are named after characters, people or brands.
And before anyone gets offended by me pointing it out again, there's nothing wrong with that, it's just kind of dumb and uncreative.
No. 471752
>>471100Honestly, this is nit picky and stupid. I’ve been keeping tanks for years. Some fish, like blue spotted jawfish, can slip through cracks of lids you wouldn’t even expect. Happened to my first one. Bettas can jump, but I’ve owned so many, and not one has ever jumped out. Killifish are known jumpers, so that, yeah she should have had a lid but probably didn’t research them.
Hers didn’t jump, hers was eaten by the snowflake eel she got (which needs a 50gal tank minimum), and they’re known to not be compatible fish. She then traded the eel in for the cow fish, cheese. This could totally be a large issue with her local fish store not giving her proper info, too, but she should still research species before getting them. But there’s definitely been times I’ve also purchased a species I knew nothing about from my fish store, and listened to what they’ve told me (but they’ve always been right, never mislead me), and I do more research while they’re acclimating.
Some of you on here just derail the thread with useless speculation on stuff she’s already spoken, and saying it’s bad fish care if a fish jumped isn’t true if there’s a lid. Sometimes these fish can literally fit through the smallest of holes. Not saying her fish care is correct or defending her, but stop derailing on conspiracies and nitpicking so much.
No. 471761
>>47175290% of this thread is useless speculation, dude.
How many times do we have to say that as long as the subject is Taylor, no one is "derailing the thread" or "going off topic." There's no BIG issue, it's just a bunch of idiots circle-jerking about how much we dislike someone. Stop getting
triggered every time someone brings up something you don't care about, this isn't your personal thread.
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No. 471954
Idk if anyone was interested, but I was curious about the parameters her fish required and wrote them up, and I figured I'd share (sorry if this is irrelevant or whatever, I'll delete if that's the case.) Also all of the following is for her 45 gallon bowfront:
Panda Cory (3 - that I saw)
* Temps: 19 to 28c
* pH range: 5.5 - 7.8
* Water hardness: 1 to 12°H
- recommended groups of at least 4
Betta Splendens (4)
* Temps: 25 to 26c
* pH range: 5 - 7
* Water hardness: 18 – 268 ppm; similar range to Corys
- recommended to be kept individually or at least in species only tanks due to aggression
Congo Tetras (couldn't quite see how many, assumed 4/5?)
* Temps: 23 to 28c
* pH range: 6 - 7.5
* Water hardness: 3-18°H
- recommend minimum of 5
Celebes Rainbowfish (Only saw 3, but again I couldn't quite see)
* Temps: 22 to 28c
* pH range: 7 - 8
* Water hardness: 10 to 25°H
- cannot tolerate acidic conditions however all of the other species in this tank definitely prefer acidity over alkaline, still, if kept at a neutral pH they'd be fine
- the minimum hardness preference for Celebes is on the upper end of Corys preferences, but still within the Corys' limits
- minimum suggested group is 5, it is always recommended to have more however, especially if skittish fish like these
Leopard Bushfish
* Temps: 20 to 28c
* pH range: 5.5 - 7.5
* Water hardness: 36 – 215 ppm
- biggest issue is that at adult size, the 45 isn't big enough for the bushfish
- can live up to 15 years…
Clown pleco (1):
* Temps: 23 to 28c
* pH range: 6.5 - 7.5
* Water hardness: 1 to 20°H
- require driftwood
I don't actually think the 45 gallon is overstocked per se, I just think that the stocking is erratic and irresponsible, why would you buy small numbers fish that prefer to be in bigger groups? It does seem like all of the condition requirements of all the the fish overlap so they can all live together in regards to requirements but whether they can tolerate eachother is another issue.
The main issues are the Betta sorority and the bushfish; sororities are incredibly controversial, but regardless of whether you support them or not, they definitely shouldn't be kept by beginner aquarists - in the videos I noticed all of the Bettas had tears in their fins and/or tails. As for the bushfish, as a juvenile it would be fine in that tank, however it will - if it hasn't already - outgrow the 45 gallon.
I'm not sure if everything in this is 100% correct but I did try my best to ensure it was - and the stuff in this post really wasn't that difficult to find.
No. 471971
>>471935Again, I'm not defending her. However, the fish could've jumped behind the tank, thus taking it so long to find. Although, she should've been looking and checking on everybody. I know I'm guilty of this too. It's hard running 50+ Tanks, and packaging, and selling. There's been once or twice I've had a goby jump behind a tank.
(I keep my lids on securely to prevent that to happen, I still don't know how it happened.)
No. 471978
>>471951Wikipedia is not the
most reliable, but it is better than site trying to sell you something.
>>471943Show me where it says "250"
No. 471989
>>471954Thank you for doing this!
Overstocking: The main issue with overstocking is waste management, then size and space. With ore aggressive fish it's actually recommended to overstock (as long as you increase filtration at least half your tank size) due to not being able to create territories, it decreases aggression ten-fold. That's why I support smart sororities.
(sage for general info)
No. 472021
>>471964I did read the picture and laughed. Others have pointed out how you used an unreliable source already. I worked in a local aquatic specialty shop for four years and had several customers who had full grown cowfish. All of them kept their cowfish in at least a 250. Before you go defending someone on a trash thread, you might want to do more than read one unreliable source and start preaching like you know everything about something you clearly have no experience with. No one should be promoting keeping an animal at its minimum requirements, and if they are, they don't really care about the animal.
But I digress, I actually think that cheese is alright in a 150 for the time being because he is still small. The problem I have is the other large fish overcrowding the tank as well, particularly the tang which also needs a much bigger thank. Just due to her stocking, she needs a much bigger tank right now, but since she had to get special permission from her apartment complex to allow a 150, I don't know if she'll be able to upgrade. It's not like it would be easy sneaking a 250 aquarium into an apartment lol.
No. 472022
>>472001She's not an animal expert. That doesn't mean she does everything horrifically wrong.
1.) Mice are escape artists, and like someone said, get URI's alot. In an enclosed space it's better. As long as she has A properly controlled room for them, it"s not detrimental to their health. In fact, with Gus, it's best to keep them AWAY from snakes because they can smell them. Which, I don't know if you know this, stress takes a huge toll on the body. If you spent 24/7 smelling something that wants to eat you, you'd be stressed out too. Mice will die from stress alone. The hedgehog has to stay away from the male, plain and simple. Is the closet the best place, no, absolutely not. But does it work and not cause extra stress? It definitely does.
2.) Fish jump, fish will fight for some unknown reason. When I was 16 years old I had been keeping fish for 6 years. I had success with 2 of my bettas (2 separate times. One died then I got the other one) living in a 37 community tank with guppies, a pearl gourami, and corys. I got a new betta, and had him in there for about 6 months. I went to bed after doing a water change and woke (12 hrs. later) up to him behind the tank, on the ground, and my guppies dead with missing fins. I did the responsible thing and checked my water parameters. I had a tight lid on my tank with one opening from where the filter poured in. My water parameters were perfect. Shit happens in the aquarium hobby.
No. 472042
>>471971Maybe instead of reading and defending someone on a hate threat you should actually take care of your 50 tanks.
>>472001I totally agree. She's presenting herself as an authority on animal care when she is just a novice. If she was willing to admit that she was wrong and correct her mistakes, it wouldn't be that bad, but unfortunately she's stubborn. She also obviously is using the animals for attention and money, and though I think that she loves buying animals, she doesn't seem to like caring for them and it shows in her subpar enclosures and pushing older and less interesting animals to the side.
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>>471954yep, it isnt overstocked per se, but it isn't a great stocking choice. the bushfish is what i'm most worried about.
No. 472410
>>472390She has a good following. I bet you a bunch of kids would flood to ask for the snakes instantly because they favourite youtuber ever bred them!!
If anything, it's another easy way to make money for her.
No. 472417
>>472167What on earth makes you say this?
>>472390This.
>>472397Also this.
There's speculation based on what we know and then there's just saying random shit, rofl.
>>472410Although for this reason she could produce a clutch or two… Ugh. All we need is for her to not only keep buying new animals, but also MAKING more animals…
No. 472419
>>472301She's been claiming she's going to upgrade the hedgehogs since before all this business with buying new snakes monthly began.
I wonder if when she goes to the reptile expos, does she walk around and look at what's available or does she just impulse buy the first thing that she likes. Someone on Twitter said they were going to buy the snake she has now, but she beat them to it, which is sad. That snake probably would have had a better home with that person.
No. 472435
>>472419Going back to what other people were talking about in the thread, Taylor is shit at budgeting. Her idea of saving is probably "saving up for what I want NOW" rather than saving for the future.
Honestly it's a proven fact that the majority of people who are super successful on YouTube are either young and attractive, funny, or having a huge production value to make huge videos (ie. Casey Niestat, SloMoGuys, etc.)
All Taylor has going for her is the young and attractive bit, which obviously isn't going to last forever. I don't know what the hell she's going to do when this whole YouTube bit dries up, because she's said several times she's not going to college and she isn't making her own merch so if she gets dropped that's the end of her merch line too.
She obviously doesn't have extensive experience with animals either, so if she ever went into animal care it would be at basement level. I saw her get a gig talking at any elementary school once but that's probably just because of that one video with all her pets. Which she won't be able to pay for once she's out of a job and has no savings.
No. 472486
>>472289That's how I feel. Every choice she makes is for HER benefit, not her animals. She's staring at her own reflection in most every photo that includes a pet and she handles them like she's modeling an accessory rather than holding a living thing.
Taylor tries REALLY hard to be Emzotic, but she doesn't have the knowledge, experience, or respect for animals required to pull it off. She gives out crappily researched advice, presents it like she's an authority (especially when she thinks she can "help" someone with a lot of subscribers/followers), then flakes out the instant she's challenged with "I never said I was an expert!" or "it's not like 'adopt don't shop' was my official motto!" or however the hell she phrased that trash excuse after she bought the $600 craigslist cat. Nevermind that she doesn't follow her own advice half the time.
She gives her animals the basic care needed to keep them alive so they can stick around long enough for her to exploit them on YT, get merch made, and take cute insta and twitter photos. That's it. She doesn't give a crap about the actual quality of their lives.
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lmao all those fake flower photos look tacky as fuck
No. 472521
>>471480I can't believe she loves animals soooo much but wastes $20k on her alleged bed and bracelet that are ridiculously expensive instead of proper care for her animals or donating it to a shelter.
So many YouTubers have donated to shelters or animal causes even though their channel has NOTHING to do with animals. Selfish bitch.
No. 472523
>>472518Actually 99% of the time Male mice should not be housed with other males. They're naturally territorial in the wild, so more often than not will fight and injure each other, sometimes to the death.
She mentioned that when she got Gus he was injured, most likely from fighting with other male litter mates when he was being housed in the pet store.
She did however only recently mention that she was going to get him some friends but after looking into it / talking to viewers came to this conclusion that he would most likely fight with another male (especially in a tiny cage) so chose not to, she also decided against it because he was 'old anyway'
But the fact that she only just recently researched whether he needed a companion when he's close to 2 years old is concerning
No. 472529
>>472486I don't think she tries to be Emzotic as Emzotic has only had her channel about a year (correct me if i'm wrong) so after Taylor.
Maybe if Taylor actually put out care videos like she used to (or any videos at all) you could say she's trying to be her, but that would require consistency and thought put into videos.
I think this is the one thing that irritates me about her getting new animals, is when she first began adding to her 'collection' she would make each new animal an introduction video, and sometimes even a care video (albeit often with incorrect care facts) but it was still a reason to be subscribed to her channel, now it's just "meet my 30 new animals" because she can't keep up and its so impersonal and no one has any idea which animal is which, or a connection with any of them (besides older animals like cheese)
Also i love how Emzotics boyfriend made a diss video about Taylor a while back but it's turned out to be pretty damn accurate
No. 472544
>>472529That thing that drives me up the wall the most is the MOMENT most of these popular pet YouTubers buys a new animal, they immediately make a pet care video on it and act like authority or that they've been keeping those animals for years.
I can get wanting to make introduction videos about the animal and what their like and maybe some interesting facts (like what Emzotic does) but they frame it as "this is EVERYTHING you need to take care of this animal"
Does anyone know if that video of Em's boyfriend trashing idiots like Taylor and Tyler is around somewhere still? I never got to see it and I'd love to here what he said.
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Not much better imo but I’m not a hedgehog expert let alone familiar with them in the slightest.
No. 472564
>>472561Anyone else think it's kind of weird how constantly she exploits and laughs about her dead hedgehog Nala (the hedgehog in the 'you can do it' picture)
She's always going 'lol that's my dead hedgehog' every time she sees that picture, and now she's putting it on merch.
No. 472615
>>472529I should have phrased that better. I don't mean that she was inspired by Emzotic. I mean that Em is all the things Taylor wishes she was and tries to project herself as (young, attractive, stylish, quirky, well-spoken, in LOVE with animals, and knowledgeable). The only difference is that, with Em, it's backed up by years of experience and animals that look extremely healthy and happy. Taylor wants all that cred. She just doesn't want to put the work in.
Hopefully she'll grow up, if only for the sake of her animals.
No. 472728
>>472665Seriously !!!
Also on that note, I find it absolutely WEIRD she doesn’t reblog any of slaves’ stuff. Tours, new album, merch…
No. 472801
>>472042Again, I'm not defending her.
As for the tanks, I do take care of them and I'm on this site literally only at night before bed.
No. 472917
>>472807The point is that saying "shit happens" in the aquarium hobby is untrue. There is always something that we did or did not do that causes something to go wrong. In your case, it was housing incompatible fish. I hope you've learned from that experience and stopped doing it.
In Taylor's case, her fish jumped out of tanks that had no lids at all on multiple occasions. That is absolutely her fault.
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I didn’t get screenshots, but did anyone notice Taylor’s mom flipping her shit over Tanner 2-3 days ago? She said she wouldn’t share anything about him online (pictures or even his name) because people were getting off to it or something. Not sure if any anons were messing with her.
As you can see, she deleted all those tweets and started talking about Tanner publicly again. At first she seemed genuinely caring, but I’m starting to agree this kind of shit probably messed Taylor up in the head. Her periodic social media meltdowns are even weirder than Taylor’s sometimes.
She still RTs Jonny’s exes and subtweets Taylor. Dad seems to be sane, and he still be pretty worried.
Judging by previous posts, Taylor and Jonny are fighting regularly and probably doing drugs. None of this is conducive to her making videos and getting youtube cash. When it comes crashing down I wonder if she’ll start asking for donations?
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She posted this yesterday. Cue “I’m in too much pain to make videos :(“ for the next two months, while inevitably posting photos of her traveling hours to an expo or Playlist
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No. 473659
>>473650annoying as shit her stans are all over that person because "HER SNAKES ARE HAVING PERFECT SHEDS THAT'S A SIGN THEY'RE FINE!!!"
do they not realise unhealthy snakes can in fact have full sheds?
my BP who passed away from a very terrible and contagious abio resistant respiratory infection still shed like a charm? he even ate up until he was close to passing and did normal BP stuff
just because a snake has shed in one piece doesn't mean you can just call it a day everything is all okay and dandy!!
No. 473688
>>473422Don’t know enough about snakes to tell for sure, but wasn’t her GTP having a chunky she’d in her last video?
Also the fact that she posts about them having perfect sheds so often leads me to believe it doesn’t happen that often, otherwise she wouldn’t act so overly proud.
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>>473670yep, it's fucking depressing to watch
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nemo is so small and skinny compared to the other cat in this video. and he's supposed to be older right?
No. 473698
>>473688Her GTP was having a very piecey shed as she was saying how hes having a perfect one, it really frustrated.
>>473692I hate that its a red tail I bet she has him in a 10 gallon because its totally never gonna out grow that!!!
No. 473776
>>473744Safety-release collars are fine, but in general kittens shouldn't have any kind of collar because they don't have the body weight to
trigger the safety release
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I was watching some of Taylor's old stuff to try and get some new milk, and this video is particularly annoying.
Taylor being SUCH a dog expert is particularly insistent that her ex-service dog (who is mixed) is part Doberman, even though she looks more like a Weimaraner. She just KNOWS it guys. Though, I'm pretty sure the only reason she knows it is she was told by the rescue beforehand or had her tested before this video and just used it as an excuse to come off as smart and rub it in people's faces.
She also mentioned that her favorite dog is the Shiba Inu (while pronouncing part of the name incorrectly.) I hope to god she never gets one. Shibas look cute and are by all accounts great, loyal dogs, but they're infamous for having the most ear-grating, distinct barks. She'd rehome that poor thing within a few days if it was a particularly loud dog.
No. 473981
>>473744Nemo does have a collar, it has a bell and it's white.
I know the milk is dry but what can we do.
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Here’s the original screenshot of her apartment layout (cropping out all the information that doxxes her so this doesn’t get deleted) she has more than enough room to spread her animals out properly. Why she doesn’t is beyond me and up to her insane reasoning.
No. 474002
>>473996She got the two bedroom, not the three bedroom. She showed it in her apartment video when she introduced the kittens originally.
>>473781There’s a lot of autism on this thread, but this might be the biggest autist post I’ve seen yet. Stop trying to look for milk where there is none, you’re distracting from the real, serious issues with her. That dogs an uncut Doberman, get over it, and it doesn’t matter regardless.
No. 474044
>>474002It's kind of rich you'd call someone an autist when you seem to think this thread is anything more than a collective group of autists making up conspiracy theories about some lolcow on youtube that we can't stand for one reason another.
Can none of you fucking read or are you just ignoring the dozens of posts over the past three threads on this bitch that have repeatedly said that this isn't your personal thread? There's NO main issue that we're supposed to be discussing here. This is for collective milk and conspiracies about Taylor. Therefore any discussion that involves TND isn't a "distraction" or "derailing" or whatever dumb words you keep throwing around. This isn't a sting operation.
Stop getting
triggered every time a fellow autist talks over you. Let people have their stupid fits over TND's stupid videos, that's what this thread is for.
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Looks like Emma from Emzotic had purchased a Halloween crab shortly before Taylor decided to grab one. Technically Emma bought one a few days before the date posted, but I don't be follow her on all of her social medias so idk if she announced that or not. I believ the date on Taylor's picture Ian from the day she got the crab or the day after. I'm not saying Taylor's copied Emma, but I just think it's funny because no one called her outback for copying when Taylor's fan base isn't notorious for attacking other pet youtubers for copying their "pet mom."
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No. 474264
>>474255>>474256The difference in how Emma and Taylor hold the Moon Crab is really telling.
Emma is actually being cautious with it, holding it close to her chest with her hands bracing it in the front with her thumb up to keep it from falling forward.
Taylor just lets it hang out on her hand/arm four feet up in the air, without trying to brace it (after most likely dropping it several times and being warned to not fucking do that.) Basically, Em actually cares for its wellbeing and Taylor cares about how it "looks on her."
But of course if Taylor were to try to block the crab from falling it would be obscuring its face, and that's not a cute photo op after all!
No. 474288
>>474256who wants to bet sooner or later taylor's crab will show up with missing claws or legs and she'll be all "oh that just happens nbd lol"? Ffff. (From what I understand it kinda can happen easily, ie from a bad molt, but they do grow them back? But if it happened to Taylor's, we would know she dropped it.)
There's no way she didn't drop that crap in the most recent video. If she didn't, why do that quick cut? Poor cute crabby guy :(
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He’s tweeting this and it’s 4:20 am where he is. (I have major insomnia so here I am to report his early morning/late night tweets)
With that being said this seems like something someone would say/think/tweet? after a night of binging. So there’s that…
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lmao everytime he says something nice about Taylor it feels like it was just an excuse to talk shit about his exes
No. 474510
>>474452iirc she has to handle her tarantula often for her job. She brings animals to schools and such to educate people. Makes sense to get them familiar with being handled if you're going to be doing that.
As for Taylor, I just can't get over how she NEVER mentions Jonny's band even though she's a "fan", esp since he's going on tour. They don't seem to retweet each other every day like they used to either.
I wonder if Taylor wanted out, but knows how bad it would look to split after the fiasco with her parents and all the awful shit she said to excuse his previous abuse. Tinfoil hat = he's only sticking around for his new teeth + a place to stay bc he's homeless and she's only letting him to avoid facing the backlash.
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Bad insomnia or too much blow?
No. 474521
>>474452She might not be, but she's miles better than Taylor. Like
>>474264 pointed out, you can tell Em in constantly hovering her hand around the animal she's handling making sure that she's able to catch them if something happened. It's pretty instinctual to her, like how you'd immediately reach your hands out to break your own fall.
Taylor is more concerned about getting a photo op than the safety/happiness of the animal, like when she put one of her lizards on top of her skink (and then mocked one of the people who told her that was dangerous.)
She's never remorseful or apologizes when she does something irresponsible or wrong. It's always "lol it was only for a second, calm down don't get
triggered I'm the animal expert here"
No. 474550
>>474521Oh absolutely Taylor is 100% worse. I just don't want people thinking that Em is perfect.
There's a lot Taylor does regarding her tarantula's care is wrong.
An adult tarantula should be fed about once a week. Any more than that and the abdomen will get too large for the tarantula to lift up. This causes abrasion injuries from the abdomen dragging on substrate/decorations.
Taylor talks about feeding her T daily in one of her videos.
A tarantula's enclosure pretty much never needs to be completely cleaned. They produce very little waste. The most frequent cleaning needed is just occasionally picking out leftover insect carcasses after feedings. Replacing all the substrate and cleaning too frequently will stress the tarantula out as they need time to get comfortable in an environment.
Taylor has talked about how she cleans her tarantula cage multiple times a month.
The handling is really the worst thing for me though. It's so risky. A tarantula can go from totally chill to bolting with no warning. One fall from above waist height onto a hard surface and that spider is dead.
Taylor likes to wave her arms around with the tarantula in her hand. She also likes to pose with it on her neck, face, and (of course) chest.
The only thing I can say that is good is the enclosure. It's shallow to prevent falling injuries, the substrate is dry (as it should be for the species that she has), and she provides a water dish. It is a bit bigger than it needs to be, but that's not a problem.
No. 474552
>>474527He keeps his snakes in racks they can't even stretch out in (i.e his retics who can only stretch half at best, just curl up at worse)
he keeps MONITORS and BTS in racks (terrible)
people have also reported they've received BPs with mites and RIs from him
I remember one of his videos he showed one of his snakes attempting to eat itself (a sign of really bad stress)
sage for OT
No. 474606
>>474597But until recently Em and Danny lived on opposite sides of the world and were in a long-distance relationship (only going to see each other every few months from iirc)
So they might have a good support system where they could swap advice about animal care, but Em was pretty much doing everything by herself as well (and she's never done an "All My Pets" style video, but it does look like she has a lot more animals than Taylor to take care of)
No. 474638
>>474632Wow 3 whole comments out of thousands. Such a derailment. /s
Your sperging about this is more of a disruption than those are.
No. 474640
>>474632Are you an idiot or do you not see that
>>474293 is exactly what I just said it is? Another autist comparing Emzotic's animal care to Taylor's?
No. 474802
>>474795She never says anything because it's "not her problem." A lot of big Youtubers adopt this attitude that "oh it's not my fault what my fans do, as long as I'm not telling them to attack someone it's not my fault"
Which to an extent is true, but at the same time openly addressing drama, calling people out by name, and DIRECTLY quoting the tweets of people you disagree with is indirectly encouraging them to want to say or do something.
Taylor knows exactly what she's doing, she's a manipulative bitch who doesn't care who gets.
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complete bullshit
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