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22 year old "family friendly pet mom" Youtuber, her 32 year old junkie boyfriend Jonny Craig, and her creepy controlling mother.
Previous thread: >>>/pt/668175
The basics:> Taylor is a notorious animal hoarder known for collecting 40+ rare and exotic pets and manhandling/mistreating them for the sake of her Youtube channel which has over 1 million subscribers. Many pets have died in her care, many more have fallen ill due to her neglect or disappeared after "rehoming" them. Fails to give proper enclosures for many of her pets, including overstuffing fish tanks, keeping her kittens locked in the bathroom, and her mouse and hedgehog in the closet.> Jonny Craig was the frontman of the band Slaves and is most well-known for being an outspoken abusive junkie. He has been in and out of rehab centers for a decade now and has been kicked out of multiple bands and off of tours for his behavior. He is usually homeless when he does not have a girlfriend to leech off of.> Several of Jonny's ex-girlfriends have come out with stories of Jonny's physical and sexual abuse, including rape at knife-point. His ex Chelsea confided this in Taylor when she and Jonny first started dating, in which Taylor's response was to laugh with Jonny and make a public spectacle of it.> Taylor loves to throw pity parties for herself and dodge around the real issues when faced with criticism about her husbandry, hoarding, and hypocrisy. She can never keep her stories straight and will tell outright lies only to contradict them hours later. Her fans are sycophants who only encourage her.
(currently deactivated as of 2/14/19)
Facebook (private:) https://www.facebook.com/Taylor.Nicole.Dean
List of all Taylor's pets:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QNUksDcQk_cqLTkTFTiPjP2pCGBQgORyCesIIqvZ2Zs/edit?pli=1Requires update of new frog, tarantula, crabs dying and all the fish outside of the 150 “rehomed”
Stats of Taylor’s pets and history:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1e8bakM4GHa2J1y4qwYsB-T0jSpN5uWCI_q0dv-odij4/htmlview#
New Milk:> Cannot keep story straight on rehab, has stopped posting about it> Posted an Instagram story with needles visible in the background> Continues to make stories on Instagram where track marks can be seen on her arms > Claims she is totally sober from drugs but alcohol doesn’t count and her rehab coaches are completely fine with her using alcohol > Released a video on how she moved Mushu to the new house, with an insane amount of misinformation, demonstrating her complete lack of knowledge about the nitrogen cycle, but at least FINALLY has a chiller for her tank> Taylor has been sharing photos with alleged self harm scars> Jonny is now in New York for a couple months, still love bombing Taylor on social media > TND and Jonny seem to be on some type of ‘break’ without calling it that and Jonny is in deep denial> TND has mentioned possibly ‘rehoming’ more animals and moving home with her parents> TND has been alleging that her substance abuse and codependency issues are because of her father not being around as a kid> Jonny now in NY has been posting pictures including more twisted tea (so much for sobriety)> Jonny seems convinced he’s going to become a successful twitch streamer despite barely knowing how to play games> Jenn vague-posting abuse abusive and manipulative relationships whenever Taylor alludes to her relationship status> Taylor has been seemingly intentionally vague about whether she’s actually dumping Jonny or not
> Recent Known additions to the horde of animals: Tarantula, frog> Recent Known Deaths: Moon crab (Ursula)> Recent Known “Rehomed”: Satanic Leaf geckos, all fishtanks not including the 150 gal, other moon crab (Triton)
Videos which sum up the drug addiction situation: https://youtu.be/IczGyFh0LBghttps://youtu.be/9tblAt5NX9w
Old Milk:> Colin from Slaves posted on here about his experiences with Jonny. His posts start at >>>/pt/637869> Claims to be attending an outpatient rehab program, where they receive Vitriol injections> Jonny was kicked from the Slaves for incessant drug use http://archive.is/JO9vO> Taylor admitted to using heroin, this was corroborated by texts from Jonny http://archive.is/4GnJG http://archive.is/6sYGI> Mushu has been shown without much gill feathering left recently shown much more clearly with facial scarring, even less feathering and stressed posturing stated that she will be updating mushu’s condition in a video, we will see if that happens> More enclosures being shown with completely empty water dishes more empty and scummy water dishes shown in the new house as well> Jonny posted screencaps indicating that he’s already been late paying rent, after only living there a month> Has been bouncing deactivations on her twitter and instagram during the controversy around Cheese and her herion use> Released a video on April 13th (2 months after she said she would return to youtube), slurring words in some clips, and showed alcohol in the kitchen and bedroom of the new house> Cheese’s necropsy results were inconclusive (obviously)
Unconfirmed Milk:> Still using herion despite claiming to be clean now> Getting evicted from the new house> TND is trying to break up with Jonny to complete her “redemption” to youtube
All Previous Threads:
General Pettuber Thread:>>>/snow/730730
LMAO probably broke, if anyone can confirm without tipping.
He's probably still leeching off taylor's funds.
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reposting this from last thread because it came in right at the end. but i really don't think it's wise for jen to be doing this. then again, she is an idiot, so what can you do?
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She’s a nut but I’m living for it
imo, Taylor's fans deserve to know the truth, so that the wool won't be pulled over their eyes again. Maybe some of them might even be able to help Taylor in other ways.>>669499
>in the worst case scenario he will get violent with Taylor
Well then, good thing Taylor isn't with him right now, right?
Honestly, crazy as she is, Jennifer has at least
witnessed Jonny's behavior firsthand, and no doubt Taylor has broken down & told her what's really
going on. It might seem a bit cruel to some on the sidelines, but Mama Dean has an anecdote of her own in this long, sad story.
Plus, if someone as popular as Taylor were to come out & tell the truth about Jonny, then enough people would know what he's all about. Enough people would know how he slithers into the hearts & homes of young, vulnerable women, tears them away from their family & friends, & sucks the life right out of them, leaving them empty & more broken than before. That
is what Jonny is probably most afraid of.
I don't think he can afford to get back to San Antonio on his own, so lol
Interesting to see Jen finally saying something, but I wonder if she will take it back and act like she supports him like she did last time
I think Jen is jumping the gun too soon considering Jonny has been away for less than two weeks. Whether or not Taylor is in rehab, she for sure has very limited access to social media, which probably boosted Jen’s confidence to make tweets about Jonny without having to worry about Taylor acting up or defending him. But it’s still kinda stupid because he’s keeping tabs on all of them and that helps him to keep pulling shit on Taylor.
I feel like if she’s going to call him out she should go all out instead of half assing it and leaving cryptic messages through song lyrics like a teenager.
Personally speaking, I would just go radio silent until I’m sure my daughter is safe from that asshole and there’s no risk for her to play savior again.
I'm waiting for Jen to issue an apology to Jonny's ex's/abuse victims
for pulling her support and vague tweeting calling them liars. Funny how things came full circle, huh Jen?
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"just mix it about on the spoon, try not to burn it, there you have a nice lovely cooked dose, whack it in the syringe, bobs ya uncle"
He's Jamie Oliver as a smack head the resemblance is uncanny.
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Everyone involved is their own worst enemy.
Jen needs to stay away from song lyrics and metaphors and song lyric metaphors.
Dont forget turning on that adblock >>669496
No doubt that his implants will start falling off too. If Taylor doesnt shower in weeks, im betting he doesnt too. Theyre gross.. im about to vomit just by imagining what they smell like
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He's more like Scut Farkus from A Christmas Story
Does he actually live in San Antonio or even Texas? I always thought he just moves into his victims
places, wherever they live
This. I'm kind of liking her again in a way. Not like she isn't an idiot but she's a more likable idiot right now. It's a bad idea to air your dirty laundry but it's also funny that she is showing Jonny that his threats mean nothing, which is how it should be because he is probably used to being able to scare people into silence. So part of me can't help but agree with what she is doing.>>669532
And fuck I knew he reminded me of someone!
They give you temporary one's while your gums heal over the screws. Then they glue in permanent ones. I figured he would have had his permanent ones by now though.
But you can still rot implants, they only last if you take proper care of them. They refuse to do implants on people that are still using drugs because you can redo them if they rot out.
He got the dentures pretty early in the relationship, then they started using, which I get the feeling started around or before the first PetFest when she was so supposedly sick because of gluten and it lasted until last december, but they relapsed pretty soon after them posting shit about the outpatient program.
It honestly looks like they went to the doctor, he promised he'd get sober just so he could get the dentures, and then they stopped going because they were too high to even leave the house.
He literally does nothing. Taylor said he never leaves the house unless it's for food/shopping. He spends all day reading comics, playing games, surfing insta and listening to music, getting high.
You'd think after multiple ODs, rotting teeth, no place to live, liver failure and swelling he'd figure his lifestyle is shit. He's been enabled by all his trashy fans and gfs.
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From Jonny’s Instagram story earlier, where he’s ranting about a girl calling him ugly saying “and she thinks I’m ugly? Not today hoe” or something along those lines. He’s so delusional lol. Oh and goes on to make 10 more ranting how he doesn’t care about internet hate
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he's like a real life J-Rock from trailer park boys. Hooked on the other type of dope tho
They can still fall off due to bone loss that happens when you don’t give a shit about your gum hygiene. >>669613
No wonder he buys shoes that looks like it can give him 2 more inches lmao. He’s so pathetic that it’s entertaining
He’s been posting online so much it’s hilarious. He doesn’t know what to do with himself. Now all of a sudden he’s trying to to get back into singing. Desperately @ing people on ig too.
The fact that he lies about his height is also hilarious and pathetic of him.
Also, can he stop using “blood“ after his sentences? He wouldn’t dare use that in the wrong place, his ass would get beat and shot most likely.
LMAO he did WHAT to a pro-wrestler? >>669499
It's two-fold - Jenn is a narcissist and won't recognise that other people are actual people, but she also wants Jonny to blow up so she can drag him and say "I WAS RIGHT, TAYLOR, I WAS RIGHT, MAMA ALWAYS KNOWS, MAMA IS BEST PERSON FOREVER"
Narcissist or not, Jenn knows Taylor better than Jonny ever
will, & knows how to help her get healthy again.
He is really pathetic.
Also slightly off topic, but what's the connotation with the slang use of 'blood' in the sates. I'm only familiar with the UK term 'blud' which is a freely used term of endearment in the UK. Though it does sound stupid coming out of the mouths of non-Londoners when said often, though you wouldn't get beat up or stabbed for saying it unless you were mocking someone maybe. A quick Google search only got me back to blud and the UK.
That’s right. Blood comes from the crips and bloods. Gang related.
He is trying to sound so hard. If he really would say that in south LA, his ass would get shot. He needs to stop with his lame ass. You are also a white dude saying blood. You sound STUPID. And like a try hard it’s pathetic. I cringe every time .
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Fucking hell. Maybe he genuinely forgot.
I didn't think he could reach a new low, but this right here is it.
Fuck you JC. The only bright side to this is that you'd just ruin that kid's life, so you not being around is a good thing. However, you could at least help out with child support. Brag all you want about what you buy, it just makes you look disgusting not helping to support your kid. A real man will step up and take your place, manchild.
It's a good thing this child doesn't have to grow up with a raging addicted narcissist, but damn what an absolute piece of garbage he is proving himself to be yet again here. But then again, he fancies himself a "kid" himself huh. He really is delusional as fuck.
This battle of the narcissists sure is gonna be interesting between him and Jen. And I think Taylor might genuinely be hitting him up still privately for her own narc fuel since she can't go to social media for attention right now.
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more mama dean tweets. sounds like confirmation that taylor is being blackmailed by jonny…
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Here is from an interview where he says just because the ex never came after him for a DNA test or anything, he thinks it might not even his kid so that's also probably why he is denying he has a kid (aside from being a piece of shit). I won't post the kid here for privacy, but I saw a picture before and you can definitely tell it's his kid, don't need a blood test for that lmao. Its smart the ex didnt get him involved, kid is better off without a junkie loser father like that. The only unfortunate thing is she didn't try to get him for child support, because I'm sure he'd go to jail for missing payments and jail is the right place for him.
All those drugs must've messed up his brain.
All this just makes me more pissed at Taylor, I don't know how you could willing get with a guy with so much history of being a POS. Then she has the nerve to blast it on her platform as "couple goals" now when the going gets tough she vaugeposts about "ending realtionships is hard" Then she hides and runs away from the world.
Taylor at least has SOME intelligence, I can't even blame jonny because he's shown
what he is time and time again.
I hope the disease-ridden-carrot was worth it. I'd have a hard time living knowing I willing let that dude inside me.
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JC is about to come out on ig live talkin shit.
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This is actually kinda heartwarming, glad to see they're taking care of their daughter (kinda).
She's a trashy, crazy narcissist but i'm glad they're helping Taylor out. Good to know a family of wackjobs at least has eachothers back.
Jonny is emotionaly destroyed i'm loving it.
I think it's actually kind of disgusting. She's never going to learn anything from this situation. She started dating a POS that her parents and the entire internet warned her about, and here come her parents to clean his stuff out of his house and probably actually break up with him for her, since she left it vague. Obviously he is now beginning to understand that it's actually over from her parents actions, not hers.
Idk I just feel like this will further cement her immaturity and stupidity
I think it's actually kind of disgusting. She's never going to learn anything from this situation. She started dating a POS that her parents and the entire internet warned her about, and here come her parents to clean his stuff out of his house and probably actually break up with him for her, since she left it vague. Obviously he is now beginning to understand that it's actually over from her parents actions, not hers.
Idk I just feel like this will further cement her immaturity and stupidity
exactly. Her family blaming the whole situation on JC is understandable, but also wrong. Taylor was definitely not as innocent in this as they are trying to make her out to be. Remember that she wanted this. She's wanted to be a victim
her whole life. Just like munchies sometimes actually make themselves sick to get sympathy and attention, Taylor decided to enter a toxic
relationship to actually become a victim
, not just pretend (like she's been doing with vagueposting about past abusive
relationships and poor relationship with her dad).She's as much a "master manipulator" as JC is.
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afterwards, dude posted a story calling himself "motherfucking unstable" he sure is thriving
He's so delusional he thinks he's the victim
here and that Taylors been taken away from him. He actually believes his own bullshit.
Im seriously amazed how long this guy has lasted with so little self reflection. When you take away his fame and success he crumbles, what a loser.
I'm hoping Taylor has proof she bought that stuff so he doesn't try taking her to court for stealing (hopefully they sell or donate) his stuff or destroying his property.
I'd love to see a court battle happen to be honest, but I hate JC more than the Deans. So I don't want him winning a court battle over that stuff.
I dont want to white knight but luckily her parents are stepping in. There are girls out there that is exactly like Taylor but are stuck with an abusive
cunt until they OD because no one is there to help them out even if it means that they have to hold their hand.
What I find idiotic is her parents blasting their problems online as if they're all in highschool. This isn't parenting, Jen.
Just take Taylor home, throw away the trash, get her in rehab, and try to keep Taylor away from Jonny. I love all the milk but damn, STEP AWAY FROM THE INTERNET. cut your phone line or something geez
It's a bitch to rehome most of her animals responsibly without using Cragslist, especially when she spent a good amount of money on them.
They're animals but god do I feel sorry for them because if they're rehomed, they may just end up with clueless idiots.
Also, if she is in rehab but is keeping in contact with him (as he seems to be claiming) she is making no progress. She will get out and go do drugs again if she gets back with him. Her parents should really be more concerned with her than airing shit out online.
I don't doubt he'd try to fund raise to get one from his fans. That and it keeps him in Taylor's life. However, he'd have to prove he bought it with his money, too. Who knows, but posting pics of throwing his shit out on social media can be used in court if he did happen to have any proof he paid for it.
I'm just worried they're tossing his shit, then Taylor will turn on her parents and claim they broke in and did all that without permission. It's a potential hot mess, and we know Taylor throws her parents under the bus.
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>>669750>I have shoes that cost more than your rent!>I HAVE NOTHING AND IM BROKEN AND LOST
Translation: I keep succeeding in manipulating her to come back to me and her parents keep ruining it so now I have to try to manipulate them through twitter as well!
You're too obvious, Jonny. What a joke. Nobody is afraid of you anymore. Hopefully soon the evil will be defeated.
Also hoping for some court appearances coming out of this because I don't understand how this idiot isn't in jail.
>Everytime she calls trying to leave I talk her into staying
Cause that doesn't say "creepy manipulative heroin-addled blockhead"
How can his fans sift through this and still follow this manlump? Talk about heads in the sand…. or maybe just up his crusty ass.
It doesn’t matter who paid for it, if she gifted it to him then it’s his property. If he “abandoned” it at the house then there are also laws stating how long they would have to keep it for, etc. so what they are doing is definitely illegal and it’s dumb for them tone posting it online.
That said, he’s stupid and deserves it.
There's really no confirmation they're throwing it away. They could be just removing it from the house and having it shipped. They're probably asking jonny where he wants his shit and he's throwing a hissy fit.
The deans are probably making every effort to get his trash to him but he isn't having it. Seems unlikely they'd just throw it out, probably donate if he won't come get it.
>"Everytime she calls trying to leave I talk her into staying"
I… I don't think she can actually leave
I'm pretty sure she's probably being monitored there.
She probably calls Jonny complaining that she doesn't want to be there because she's going through withdrawals. It's easy for him to keep up appearances by saying he tells her to 'stay' (since he wouldn't want his little meal-ticket dying on him!)
I'm suspecting this means she's moving out.
Getting rid of jonny's trash first. She did say she might downsize now that she's on her own, probably back with her parents RN or in rehab.>>669790
I'm thinking she's back with her parents, not inpatient. She probably has access to her phone and is texting jonny somewhat. Pretty sure inpatient would destroy her because she'd feel all "by herself", her parents are probably shuttling her to therapy while getting the stuff out of the house.
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I’ve followed JC for years, and he’s never posted anything like this. It’s such subtle manipulation toward Taylor and her fan base. “Look at me all sad and loving animals”
To me it sounds like her saying "ugh it sucks here, I wanna go home" and him being like "no baby you gotta stay there so you feel like you're making progress and let me come back"
He's just buttering her up cause he doesn't want to lose his golden goose.
I'd even go this far to say Taylor just calls him to keep him under control. She must already be pretty down if she's in rehab, having a raging, violent ex on top of that must be exhausting.
Taylor definitely seems like the type to tell everyone what they want to hear. I'm sure she's smart and verbally tells him what he wants to hear. Then tells her parents verbally what they want to hear.
One of her biggest flaws is wanting to please everyone despite how she really feels. She's the type who tells you your skirt is cute, then shit-talks you once you're gone.
Hes pulling every trick in the book to keep her. I don't think Taylors fully commited to breaking up hence all the vauge posting BS. Her parents know JC is manipulating her so they're probably going out of their way to help her.>>669718
The SS that mama dean posted makes it seem like Taylor just isn't being rational. Jonny is playing off her savior complex and guilt. Not sure about blackmail, we'll probably only see it if she commits to dumping him.
Taylor's a rich, white, upper middle class pretty girl with well-off parents. She literally could not have it easier by much. People like her will always, always get help much easier than p much any other demographic.
Taylor is one of those people who is allowed to fuck up as many times as she likes and not lead it to career death or public disgrace. She gets infantilized to no end like she just did not know any better than to do drugs and get an abusive
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Music video ft a Taylor lookalike. I’m dying to hear it but I’m at work and can’t turn the volume on.
oh gawd, I could easily see her with another one of those trashy big name dudes.
JC was the best she was gonna get, she's a groupie at best now. She doesn't really have alot to offer anyone of post malone caliber. Even though Post malone isn't really that high, he's just trendy rn.
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lol Even his fans don't want them back together
You can't justify her behavior because she had a "tough upbringing", everyone has issues and problems, rich or poor. She was irresponsible and now she's suffering the consequences.
People like her very rarely have to accept the consequences for their actions and often shift the blame somewhere else. It's not a healthy attitude to be a victim
even if you were dealt a shitty hand in life.
I wonder when this was filmed. Doesn't strike me as something recent. Maybe this was pre-breakup?
Doesn't seem like it's a breakup song or anything. Plus that would be really fast turnaround given the timeline. Makes me think this was before shit went down.
His "fans" seem like groupies and hos that just want their shot the manlet.
His music really rubs me the wrong way, it's very junkfood pop stuff and the lyrics are pretty sketchy when you look at the person.
> I get the feeling he dropped the preview as a manipulation tactic.
Yeah, just a little nudge to Taylor "See? I'm still successful! See this girl? That could be you
one day if you stick with me babe!"
It could also be something like>My love is so strong for you I made a song about you, remember it's us vs the world.
It can go either way really.
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I agree, funny how she looks nothing like that now. Her face is getting bad, she's got acne/scabs and her face always seems to be swollenish. She gets away with lighting, makeup, angles but she's def changing. Looks like she has trouble moving her mouth when she speaks too, something reaaally off about her.
Hopefully she sort out these self image issues in rehab because she doesn't need anymore "work done"
We don't have to worry about Johnny because he's a piece of shit, not because he's going to figure his life out. Johnny doesn't have enough time to figure his life out; he's going to be dead in less than ten years and even that's generous.>>669830
shit b8 m8 >>669873
Taylor was pretty before she ruined herself with fillers/instaho makeup/johnny and it's not like johnny can do any better now that he's a bloated has-been. Otherwise you're probably right, he's most likely impotent from the opiates and keeping her around for resources and attention
>>669895>i dont understand why everyone is attacking the parents in this situation
because they should help their daughter without airing their dirty loudry all over twitter once again and possibly making the situation worse for taylor. instead they are playing weird mind games with JC over the internet and sending secret messages through first letters of their tweets. her insane narc mom is the reason taylor turned out such an attention seeking narcissist with a victim
Because her parents enabled his behavior by publicly defending him and calling everyone a liar on social media for 18 months until the inevitable happened. Maybe it was a tactic for them to keep Taylor close, but that still doesn't change the fact that it was a really stupid move that could have been entirely avoided if they just shut the fuck up about it. And they still won't shut up.
Any fucking well adjusted individual would not engage an abuser by sending Phil Colins lyrics or tweeting at him with passive-aggressive shit.
Jen should be more focused on making sure Taylor is ok instead of acting batshit.
>"the moment she says leave me alone i’ll say “love you. i’m out”
…I dunno man, something
tells me that's not
what you'd do…
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Good parents also stop engaging an abuser on social media, especially when said abuser is across the country and out of their daughter's reach.
What's he gonna do? Fly back down to SA? The fucker can't afford it. You're really naive and straight up wrong if you think throwing tweets at him and egging him on is going to help Taylor in any way. It's clear Taylor has no reach to social media, and she probably can't call Jonny wherever she is, so why would you engage him on Twitter with cryptic messages.
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"Stop bullying this guy I like, even though he's constantly making thinly-veiled threats towards people who so much as look at him funny!!!"
UGG, you do realize there are people in this world that actually care about Taylor?
Like, Jonny needs to suffer for what he did. I am doing the right thing..
And you do realize that engaging an abuser is not going to help her and make her think "oh they totally care about me" especially when her relationship was highly codependent and she probably feels guilty as fuck for leaving him? Or does that not register?
I mean this is providing a lot of milk and entertainment and for all I care keep doing this shit to your heart's content but if you think this proves you care about her you're really fucking wrong.
If this is really Jen - I am 100% behind your efforts to help your daughter get away from that disgusting excuse for a man. I really hope she is getting the help she needs.
That being said, can you explain why you basically turned on his past abuse victims
, who you were so vocal about supporting at first, and basically called them liars?
her brother had the audacity to be born disabled so she was 'neglected', got it.
she's a spoiled attention addict, miss 'china white' who never felt a tough moment till she felt heroin withdrawals, no doubt.
Yep. I remember he posted something about Jonny in July once. I believe it was when Taylor was liking things on twitter and sub tweeting?
He was def saving this for the right moment
This. I mean, I get how having a sibling with a serious disability who requires constant attention is going to make a kid feel “neglected”, but ultimately you have to get over your self pity party about that. It’s just shitty luck for everyone.
The Deans may also be super crap parents in addition to that, but again that’s something people need to move past.
Let's not attack Tanner for having the nerve
to have Prader-Willi Syndrome, like wtf.>>669921
She's attempting to get him to snap so TND can see precisely what he is, with live evidence of it.
Being neglected like that won’t turn a smart person into drugs and stupid boys like Jonny. I grew up with a mom who needed to work 3 jobs just to feed me and 7 cousins of mine. Didn’t make me go into drugs and “rockstar” boyfriends. Didn’t even have a dad and a house like hers. So her parents taking care of her little brother more due to his illness is just an excuse she makes for her dumb choices.
Taylor is just those rich white girls that believes they can do anything they want without any consequences. Her stans and parents enable it.
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Taylor's parents have not continuously fought for and supported her.
Taylor disappeared during playlist live and on the podcast when her kid could be ODING AND DEAD she's just like meh I guess we can call the police to look for her.
She spent the last year defending her daughter on Twitter pretending she's not on drugs.
She invited an abusive
piece of shit around her DISABLED SON
Fuck off with this shit.
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Jonny confirms Taylor is 100% in a facility
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I'm not defending any of Jen's recent actions related to Taylor's drama,I'm just saying she's not responsible for the fact that her daughter is a dumb bimbo who's only aspiration is to be slapped around by someone "famous".
Also lol JC only abuses those he fucks, the hell do you think he would have done to the kid?
Taylor herself said she cares about him when he was the one to say he loved her. She did not reciprocate the I love you - so he is probably lying that he even spoke to her. But we will never know, because if they did in fact speak, Taylor will tell her mom he is lying, she will report that and it’s just his word against hers.
Jen needs to take it down a notch with all these tweets - because altho it’s great she “now” has her daughters back, Taylor is still in danger, as another anon said.
Ffs. If Taylor goes back to JC it just proves how weak-willed she is. She has the money and the support network to move and leave him behind, a lot of people leave abusive
relationships with nothing and nowhere to go but pull through. She has no excuse to go back to that parasite except for being pathetic.
I noticed that as well.
Regardless, doesn’t seem like she’d call him for that.
He’s even more pathetic with the fact that he has to lie. He can fool everyone else, but can’t fool himself.
Taylor's fans don't even like him. Why would she want him
to tell her fans that she misses them
You all need to stop sprouting this 'leaving an abuser is the most dangerous time' shit. Jonny's in NY with no money, no home and no fucking way to even physically GET to Taylor.
Also stop acting like she's a victim
in all of this. The only thing Taylor is a victim
of is her own damn stupidity. This is what she wanted - the rockstar (or washed up pop junkie) experience. She played with fire after being escorted out by firemen and she got burned. She should suffer the consequences so maybe she'll actually learn something for once in her life. Good riddance to Jonny, but Taylor is in no way an innocent party in all of this. Good for her if she is actually in rehab, but at the end of the day she's still a cow with a botched brain and shitty animal advice. You can all root for her when she actually changes.
this just seems like a grab for insta followers desperate for a taylor update. i think it's pretty fucked up for him to reveal that she's in a facility if that wasn't explicitly part of her message.
i honestly feel sorry for her, he's isolated her from all of her friends, she probably feels like he's the only one she can call right now. i hope she can stay strong and get away from this absolute piece of shit.
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Apparently Taylor never "rehomed" her satanics to a friend and merely just returned them to the store where she got them from. If they were too difficult to keep at the store this confirms they were wild caught animals and not CB by the store.
In the end, if this story is true which I can neither confirm nor deny, she still caused the death of these geckos by not finding them a proper home
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Looks like Taylor's been telling Jonny one thing & telling her parents something else…
Yeah, that's kinda weird, especially considering how in for last couple of months she would rarely
mention him & was deleting old pictures of them together on IG…
Honestly it's over between them. We all know Jen hated Jonny from the start and did a complete opinion change when she realized Taylor was going to stay with him. So Jen pretended to support them and basically redacted everything she said to win Taylor over. She's been tiptoeing the line of hating/liking Jonny through the entire relationship.
Now though? She's putting him on full blast with a filter instead of supporting the relationship. So yeah, it's over between them. Taylor even said they were over and Jonny is the only one who continues to deny it. Dude literally got shipped off to another state with all his crap and he's STILL delusional lol.
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I wouldn't put it past Taylor to be telling one thing and doing another. After all, we all suspected she said it was a break to him while telling everyone else something different. Plus her parents don't seem to be that supportive when most of it is just them bashing Jonny online which he deserves but come on… not a smart move.
I also wouldn't put it past Jonny to be a liar because… it's him. So, we have two less than trustworthy sources saying one thing or another. >>670108
Literally doesn't matter how many people say that 'Taylor's experience is still an experience' when she willingly signed up for it. She will never live down the fact that she defended him and knowingly supported him and his shitty behaviour.
She'll make a come back talking about this 'experience' (I really dislike the fact that we call it an experience idk) and will make herself the ultimate victim
and it will be that little bit more insufferable
Interesting, but everyone once again blacking things out and protecting 'sources' like this so some serious news story. I wish people would speak up and stop hiding. How can anyone know any of this is valid
EVERY single time in the past when Taylor was clearly going through a hard time whether it was personal, distressed over something, upset online, copping internet hate, having videos made about her, having people shit talk to her in comments, Jonny stayed SILENT, he never cared, never showed an ounce of fucks to give, never stood up for her or told anyone to leave his queen alone, and when he DID it was so fucking minimal and half assed.
That alone is a red flag especially for someone who is so quick to defend himself against every single hate comment. Why not the same energy for taylor?
Now all of a sudden, he's acting like her knight in shining armour, that he's the reason she's getting help even though he's been haulled halfway across the country with all his shit and Taylor's made it MORE than blatantly obvious that she is dead sick of him, DONE, and has made it clear for weeks.
He's only acting like this now because HE is now the one being exposed, he's the one copping hate daily and Jen is putting him on blast, she's doing it all cryptic but Jonny takes everything to heart, for someone who says he doesn't care about hate he sure does bitch and whinge about it a lot.
I also bet my bottom dollar that Taylor's ex boyfriend she's been cozy with talked some sense into her and helped her with making these decisions on leaving him, that kind of attention would have definitely motivated Taylor.
Jonny is a bullshit artist, I don't think Taylor has spoken to him at all because he can't even get his story straight about the times, who even called who, nothing. It's all over the place and he's so obviously been high for days. It's all damage control.
He doesn't give a fuck, he's just trying to prove to everyone he cares and that he's not a fucking cunt to her despite the fact in the past when she was going through shit, he'd remain silent and the only time he mentioned her was when she brought him toys and shit and I think this is the manipulation that Jen's been pointing out.
Where are these stories even coming from? He’s admitted how much she paid for his teeth publicly in the past anyway.
Anyone can make a screenshot and crop the names. I don’t think this counts as “milk” in my opinion.
I can't wait until Taylor's ready to spill everything.
Every abuse, every fight, all those high Jonny stories etc. She's been telling Chelsea a lot about how shitty he is in private, I hope when she publicly talks about it we'll get even more milk.
If she's going to spill we're gonna drown in that milk.
If Chelsea is talking to her and gets burned again, I'm not going to feel badly for Chelsea at all. I suspect that turtlemom account is Chelsea. The way Chelsea guards all the milk is like she's the only person that's been hurt by JC and thus she shares what she feels like.
Any word on JC's stream that he was going to stream ALL day?
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Back to shitting on random young women eh, Jonny?
I kind of agree. The caps read like Tudy or someone like that. Maybe an anon got to talking to one of them? If they're hiding it better be because they have the ability to get more info and not because they want to stay close to Jonny or Taylor.>>670108
I'm so curious what the whole blanked out section of the second cap was, something about Taylor's "experience"? What's the point of hiding that?
Also I don't know if I agree "multiply it by 5" unless Taylor was super good at hiding shit which I don't think she is.
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I feel like turtle mom may be Amanda and the source from the messages was Betty
I highly doubt it's the mom. I'm sure she moved on from JC bullshit long ago. I don't think it would be fair to post her info/name here.>>670154
I agree I don't care who turtle mom is but I'm enjoying the milk they're delivering.
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That's right, Jonny. Taylor told her mom everything
Fucking spill it, Jen. I know it's going to come out eventually anyway so instead of dancing around it why not just say?
Probably better right now that Taylor is in rehab so he wouldn't be able to get to her even if he did somehow travel back.
Spread more awareness about how shitty Jonny Craig is.
Also, kind of concerned if she doesn't get it out now, he's going to manipulate Taylor into calling her mother a liar about what she has said and getting her back, and silencing everyone which is basically what happened last time.
Also please if there's any receipts/proof.
…And most of Taylor's fanbase knows Jenn & will
listen to her.
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Why the silence now?
If there's pics and videos Taylor has probably been planing this for a long time. Abuse and drugs will get her off the hook for the lease. I'm thinking that's one reason, but if she says that and it gets out she can't get back with jonny.
There's obviously evidence of jonny doing shady shit, drugs or otherwise.
Is mama dean blackmailing jonny to leave her alone? If she hasn't spilled already, jonny probably has blackmail of his own.
Jonny won't let his cash cow leave so I don't think he's gonna shut up. Taylor will probably fly Jonny back after rehab, I think this is mama deans way of saying stay away.
But this doesn't really make sense, at least legally it doesn't. Jonny is stupid, but not enough to lash out in the open.
If anything, all the proof Jennifer needs would be via Taylor and his exes. Taylor has taken pictures with bruises in weird places and there was also the punch in the door from her old apartment. Chelsea also has texts where Taylor talks about Jonny, although I'm kinda doubtful she'd be willing to help after Jen shat on her.
maybe, sometimes abusers use violence as an effect to keep victims
in line. Jonny's style seems more fear with threat of violence by punching holes and stuff.
Taylor obviously wants out but is too mentally ill to make a rational decision so she's leaving it up mama dean? Therapy won't cure Taylors problems, they're far deeper than a couple months of psych session, her changes will take years.
I feel like everything he does now online is to manipulate Taylor and show her how wonderful he is. he's filled with "See, Taylor baby, all I do for you? I'm the only one who does this for you. no one in the world can love you like how much I love you" then when Taylor falls for it, he's back to his normal self.>>670170
who gives a shit about who this person is? I don't care if she's one of JCs exs. at least she's spreading facts on twitter for all those idiotic stans to see.>>670198
Either spill the beans, Jen, or just throw away your phone. You're just pushing an abusive
addict to try even harder to manipulate your daughter into going back with him.
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I don't think she's smart enough to even make a video about it. She'll probably just end up talking about herself and how she got addicted to drugs because her boyfriend and all her friends did so she thought it was cool. The rest is her babbling on about her cats and clips of her new animals. The only video I've seen her talk about warning other people was her blue tang video but that was before drugs fried her brain.
I don't wanna say she might change afterall but I've lost hope. She gotta prove herself 1000000x more because she always goes back to her old, bitchy, self.
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And the plot thickens.
>>670227>know my head is clouded
lol>I'm just selling out these concerts
lmao>i wear fuckin it proudly like a sponsor
these low budget white singers/rappers always sound like edgey emo kids
Does he have any self awareness on how cringy that name is??>>670227
Lord, I'm starting to tin foil that all of this recent drama shit is just a ploy to get JC attention for his shit music. Any publicity is good publicity. Get people talking and worried. I'm reality their lives are so boring, so they have to stir up shit.
Pretty sure that's why Taylor got into drugs to begin with. Drugs make you fine with doing absolutely nothing. Deep down she's boring and is only "interesting" because she was a cute face with a zoo.
lol. I'll be one of the thousands that won't listen to his music just because it's popular. his music is shit.
Taylor probably got into drugs just to feel like she's a badass girl that rides on the back of bikes. She's the typical movie rich girl that pretends her life is shit to be popular with the "bad" people across town.
she's knows he's threatening her in livestreams so which is it? is she in them or not?>>670235
so very much this, anon. and taylor will get to frame this however she wants and her fans will live for it. still, the upside is jonny is out of the picture.
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The drama from releasing this info would be great, but what kind of parent threatens to or does broadcast the humiliation and abuse of their child to the world, and especially to a group of people who track and (mostly) hate her child? That's incredibly fucked up to even hint at unless Taylor gave her permission.>>670205
He definitely has blackmail. Come to think of it, you might be right- maybe this is a mutually assured destruction kind of scenario. Mama Dean should have reached out to him in private if this is the case, though.>>670227
this is unironically ten times worse than even Luna's poetry
I also want Jen to spill it all, but also think she shouldn't be the one telling Taylor's story.
Maybe Taylor will be released soon and Jen's trying to build a wall around her with her baiting, so people are going to encourage Taylor into spilling and supporting her.
I don't think it's that smart to provoke Jonny on another level, but you also don't negotiate with terrorists and Jonny's obviously scared, so go off Jen.
He's a using addict and their relationship has been nothing but codependency based on drugs and potentially abusive
. They would definitely try to limit her communication with him. Most decent programs ban external communication for at least 2 weeks, since the way you stay sober is to focus on yourself and your choices.
I have a feeling Taylor is in another half-assed program though like her outpatient. My hopes for her recovery and staying away from Jonny are not high unless Jonny is making everything up. Jen's Twitter fights airing her daughter's private struggles are definitely not helping.
She posted a few days ago about how she couldn't believe what was allowed on Twitch. She is so fucking dim.
So my theory either A) she now knows that Jonny has dirt on her daughter is is doing damage control after all she has said.
Or B) she's setting up a scene for later to try and prove she is scared he will kill her. Which I don't believe she is scared of that. If she really was she wouldn't be so antagonising.
pretty sure chelsea has a restraining order on him because he attempted to break into her house lol. also yeah, i'd probably be shitting on an abusive
ex who stole my cats, left me with his medical debt and continues to be a complete and utter piece of shit while having impressionable girls lick his ass. you can't really blame her for posting "bs" years later when he clearly left a stain on her life.
jonny is dangerous as past history shows. he's physically, emotionally, verbally and sexually abusive
and held a girl down and stuck a need in her arm and forced her to get high. literally all of his exes have been suicidal after being in a relationship with him. so go off about he's not a danger, honey. you just look foolish.
I'm sure you have some phone time once in a while. She could use that to quickly reactivate and deactivate her account again.
But an overall restart surely would benefit her.
2 months for her AT MINIMUM, heroin fucks you up long term, not just withdraws. Anything earlier than that i'd say she just isn't trying.
Can't say I feel sorry for her, hopefully she's puking over a toilet somewhere.
That's not how abuse works nor how PTSD works, so maybe stay in your lane, anon.
Jonny has beaten up and raped and drugged women before, he's a threat to just about every woman who has the misfortune to be within 100ft of him.>>670283
Jenn's a narc, she has to make it aaaall about her. If it's about Taylor, that takes limelight away from herself, so she has to insert herself again.>>670355
stop trying to scare milk away, demanding everyone show their face will cut off milk sources.
"Jonny has beaten up and raped and drugged women before".>>669441
So people keep repeating. Who has he actually raped or beaten or drugged that is provable and not just some vindictive ex making up stories. If he's done these things have police reports been filed? If not why not? Has he ever been charged with any of this? If this is all really true why has he never been arrested for it?
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Honestly, if she goes back to him, she is gonna disappoint so many
of her fans. They despise him, no matter what she tells them.
And if that happens, her channel is as good as dead.
I question if he's really with his dad. I highly doubt it and feel like it's more a fan or a friend. Besides that I know it often takes abuse victims
more than one (serious) try to get away. One thing I can speak on is that it's SUPER hard to stay clean after rehab if no one is keeping you accountable and you're in over your head with stress/too much on your plate (aka an animal hoard). My job was about as lenient as hers but I had a friend that convinced me to come back to using and I could see Johnny play that role. After all misery loves company. She's in a very risky position when she gets out and if she doesn't use her family (or they don't offer) to be a major support/wall for her it'll be really easy for her to relapse. But lets be real this is all up to HER, no one else. I think she should move back in with them though. She's young and many people in crisis do temporarily (i did) and it's ultimately for the best. Yeah it sucks but I think she'd be surprised how many people are living at home. It's nothing to be ashamed of.
probably her assistant is taking care of them. i doubt she rehomed them, i think going in the facility was a pretty sudden thing.
i really hope jonny is lying… no way he is clean and no way she can stay clean if she's with that subhuman garbage
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Good thing she has a massive fanbase who will catch this shit.
Looks like they stand firmly with her family too.
Unless you were there you have no more idea about it than the anon saying it DID happen. Stop being so insistent about this scumbucket.>>670385
Mama Dean =/= sense but even a stopped clock tells the right time etc. Hopefully she won't fuck it up.>>670386
Jonny has so much riding on this. If he is truly and finally cut loose, he loses everything, he's lost the band and Taylor is key to a LOT in terms of lifestyle and social standing for him. He's going to try really hard to get her to keep him.
If she was on a waiting list (which is common) then you're right she probably got a call to go randomly.
I do hope the animals are in someone else's care and continue to be after she gets out, but tbh I have my suspitions that Betsy's also an addict. Always wearing a kimono and always has pinpoint pupils…oh and hanging out with Taylor and Johnny lol. If she's clean then that's fine but otherwise obviously wouldn't be good.
And agreed I hope he's full of shit and that her mom can remind her why she wants to get away from him. It's easy to forget how shit addiction and abuse are when you start to feel better.
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Remember, Jonny wants Taylor's parents to fight with her. He's sewing the seeds of distrust again, because he knows how belligerent Taylor gets when her parents give her even a little 'tough-love'.
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You're not wrong anon and when Taylor and her mum come out with their story it will be just as bad because the two live and breathe to be victims
of everything. Even now when she should be setting her daughter straight, Jen is pouncing around Twitter trash talking him. Fair and all but your daughter is in rehab apparently in touch with a drug user - all of that work is going to go to waste.
Dudes horrible but so are those two.
lol my b I was reading it in the same tone as the original rape apologist anon, who seems idiotic enough to actually argue that "begging for child porn but not in a pedophilic
way" is a thing. you're totally right
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If she takes him back, it's going to be a huge
blow to her career. She got lucky the last time, when her fans were none the wiser, but this time way too many
people people caught her liking those tweets that imply that Jonny abused/controlled her & that he
actually got her addicted to heroin.
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Looks like the pic we already saw.
Taylor really needs to stop bending the knee to a guy who treats women like property.
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Basically showing her off to a bunch of strangers & perverts on Facebook
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I don't know whats trashier the fact that she sent this to him, or the fact that he leaked it on facebook.
She can't control him as much as she wants to think so. She probably gets off on being controlled and pushed around, low self-esteem/mentally sick.
Apparently she had a ton of highschool nudes floating around. She's always been a skank.
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This is the first that I’ve seen it in Facebook but he very publicly put it on instagram. >>670504
She has seen it. Previous threads show her replies.
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Truth right here.
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Looks like she's losing her daughter after all.
Better give her a hug Mama Dean, might as well be the last time you'll see her alive…
Wowwwwww. Well for one, Jen won’t be staying silent, she always says she will and then she doesn’t. If this bitch actually gets back together with Jonny after finally getting him out, having her family ready to swoop in, and all of the internet supporting her then she deserves everything she gets. >>670562
She was Vagueposting that “everything in her life was going to change”. Yeah right. 4 weeks at rehab and then going right back to Jonny is going to be as effective as their outpatient treatment. I.e, not at all. Dumbass cow. It wouldn’t be so bad if it was just Taylor paying for her terrible decisions, but it’s 50 animals being neglected because of her abhorrent self too.
Betsey is an addict too?
I just thought of something, if Betsey if taking care of her animals there, what if Jonny went all the way to NY because Taylor doesn't trust her and Jonny there together alone? That probably plays a part. Especially considering how scummy he is and how insecure she is.
I did notice a change in her recently (sleeves was the most obvious) didn't know that she got a job but sorry I don't think it's a reach at all.
I've known plenty of dedicated busy moms who were also unfortunately addicts. She has had pupils that were pinned at very inappropriate times even for someone with light blue eyes (a dark bar) and more than once. So I don't think that it's reaching. I'm not mentioning it to be hateful or try to speak poorly on her; I just don't think she is 100% sober. Even if she were just a major pothead it wouldn't be good for someone like Taylor to be around and that is my point I'm trying to make.
Also I can't imagine a non addict being okay working for someone who, as evidenced, leaves needles laying around everywhere especially with Johnny having hep c. Addicts are usually more comfortable around that shit than most people are. Again not trying to reach or be hateful but lbr, there's something up up this picture and it can't just be money sorry.
I literally explained in detail why I think that anon…
If anything she has enabled two known pieces of shit and helped them keep a hoard of pets. I will never have a good opinion of her.
I realize that if she wasn't there Taylor's animals would be dead or rehomed but sadly it may be for the better. It would have happened long ago and people would see through her sooner. She'd fall on her face.
I have to question Betsey's character period if she never really hung out with Taylor since they were young until money came into the picture. I don't care if she has a kid, there are other ways to get it.
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mama dean is watching the animals.
imagine letting your daughter get 1 snake and having to care for 50+ pets 2 years later because she has landed herself in rehab with a heroin addiction.
not to mention her mother already has tanner to take care of round the clock. there’s no way these animals are receiving the correct care and attention. just sad.
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Even her long time stans are starting to jump ship now.
As much as I dislike Taylor and think she's a privileged white asshole, Jen created her, and deserves dealing with creating a dumb privileged brat every day as punishment for what she enabled.
I enjoy seeing privileged white idiots suffer by their own hand through their own sheer stupidity. Every issue this family has is all because of their own stupid choices. All the drama and "suffering" is just basic white people nonsense. None of this is anything they themselves couldn't have prevented or stopped.They have the resources, but choose to keep perpetuating this circus. It's hilarious how badly they're handling this.
I wish all the animals would get rehomed so I'd stop worrying.(race bait)
Your opinion isn't evidence lol. This is an imageboard.
I don't have a high opinion on Betsy either, she enables Taylor and Jonny heavily and that alone is reason for criticism.
If Taylor goes back to him she's done. As much as her mother, as unhealthy as she is, loves her, I don't see her extending a hand again after being forced to care for 40+ animals while her daughter goes through expensive rehab that is ultimately worthless. And to go back to Johnny after hinting he's abusive
in a way that all her fans can see will have them jumping ship more than they already are.
Her main demographic is straight dudes that find her hot and kids that like animals. There's going to be no one left that cares about her content once all her animals are rehomed and dead and her body is rapidly deteriorating at an alarming pace.
It's so fucking sad. I hope the experience of dating Johnny was worth it, Tay.
We all know Jen is crazy, but honestly she should just cut Taylor off. Taylor fucks up and always goes crying to her mommy, but as soon as she receives some tough love, she goes crying back to Jonny. It's pathetic. She isn't worried because she has the safety net of her parents to fall back on - like when she said she might have to move back in with them… quite frankly, why the fuck would they want or allow that? It'd be great if her parents put their foot down and said no, this is your mess despite our attempts to help you get out. Rehome your animals and move into a place with more affordable rent. Stop with the frivolous spending. If Taylor is that strapped for cash the only option is to move back home, she needs a serious lifestyle downgrade.
Support her through rehab and leaving Jonny, but don't support her when she comes crying and needs mommy and daddy to fix all her problems.
I really rooted for her, but I was afraid Jonny's got her wrapped to tight around his finger.
If she's really going to choose Jonny instead of her family, fans and pets she should leave rehab already so someone who actually wants to get help can have her place.
It's like with Onisions wife. What's going on with the Taylors out there, everyone seems to be a doormat.
This is pure comedy. Once a cow, always a cow, both of them. Jen is throwing a tewnager fit pouting on twitter and Tay is making the worst possible decision she can make for herself. It always ends like this without fail.>>670612
I think you hit the nail on the head anon.
lest you forget, chelsea has blatantly self posted and been called out for it on here
Of course they wouldn't like lolcow if they made themselves look like fools on here
her mother cannot help her if she doesn't want to be helped. she's an adult. the only way she will get better is if she decides to do it herself and sticks to it. running to mommy crying and moving into her basement are not appropriate solutions at her age.
like the other anon said, her mom should go full support mode only the moment she actually drops the shitbag, rehomes the animals, gets help and a small manageable apartment. right now it's just so convenient for taylor to use her mom as a scapegoat the moment she changes her mind about getting better. it's always either her mom or JC who is the villain, she's so good at flipping the narrative.
Taylor is a cow but as far as we know she may have been ready to drop Jonny meaning her mum should have been there fully, deactivated her social medias and focused on her kid. Adult or not, Taylor needed that support. Taylor seems to have willingly gone into rehab, so she was very much accepting help.
As for rehoming animals - it will never happen. They're her source of income and probably connected to some other mental health issues.
I'm not surprised she crawled back to Jonny, it was expected that she would do so when it came out they were on a break (according to him anyway), but her mother should have done better because clearly the lack of parental support or help allowed her to be manipulated back into a relationship she seems to understand is not healthy. And ay, if her parents house sucks so much and she wants to continue her lavish life style, it's not uncommon to run away using a relationship
implying she was manipulated back into the relationship… she's a manipulator herself, maybe she intended this shitfest to be her redemption arc all along. Finally ending all speculation that she's on drugs and that JC prevents her from getting better. "See, I was in rehab!! my therapist said it's ok I'm with jonny!" And her mother is conveniently the villain again, like every time she tries to help her daughter.
Honestly I dont see her stop being a cow before she rehomes the animals and gets a normal job.
Taylor is a grown ass woman, shes 21 yo ffs. She just doesn't want the responsibility of living alone and getting better, she'll just keep blaming it on jonny and being a victim
She's been manipulating her mom and her fans with lies and misinformation for so long. If she does get back JC I don't see how any fan could still follow her after all the broken promises.
lmao right? I wonder if she went on a waitlist or something when she started saying something about her big change coming up. I guess she didn't realize how 1. getting clean is hard 2. leaving an abusive
shithead is hard if you keep listening to them and letting them manipulate you. Oh and 3. decide change is hard period and you'd really rather not
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Really major tinfoil but say they never broke up just like Jonny's been saying. And Jen and Taylor's dad just never knew about that and got duped like the rest of the internet. Taylor lies to her audience, that's her major constant.
>pledges to fans that she and Jonny will separate if things get bad again
>has been saying for months she has a big change in the works and 'hopes you'll stick with me'
>just moved in to a big-ass house and needs her big-paying sponsors back, sponsors who may presently be shy since she's had a heroin scandal
>freaked Jonny out for a minute by posting that breakup stuff for fans' benefit while privately reassuring him it was still fine, because it is still fine
The whole publicity stunt angle seems unlikely imo. She's always been a liar, but this is kind of a kick in the balls for fans. She made it very clear she was going to at least ATTEMPT to kick jonny to the curb. More likely he's sunk his teeth back into her and she caved. The whole whisy-washy vague posting from the start left the door open for him.
She's literally telling her fanbase, i'm a liar and won't make all these changes I promised. Anyone who still supports her now is willingly ignorant.
>ending relationships is hard
Lmao this didn't age well
inb4 Taylor's (second) comeback video where she blames her mother (or just refers to her as "the professional I hired" kek) for the deaths of her animals, yet won't mention that she couldn't take care of them herself because she was detoxing from heroin in rehab>>670655
yeah I agree, it seems more likely that she was being stupidly naive that rehab would 100% solve all of her problems instantly. but when she got there and called Jonny, and he spewed as much manipulative poison into her ear as he could over the phone, she realized it's going to take actual work to change her life. She's going to have to feel worse before she can feel better and part of that is being "by herself" for once in her life. She's pretty incapable of that though, so she ran back to Jonny as soon as he asked her to.
also how come I have the option to sage in /pt/? Should I be using that now
anyone who is manipulated by "hey bubble I cried the whole day, Imma kill myself, it's us vs the world lol hahahhaha" or whatever sentence this bumbling itiot manages to string together is painfully stupid or wanted to do it themselves anyway.
She's either doing it on purpose or she's even dumber that I thought.
True, but Taylor had no problem getting them to dogpile on anyone who dared
to criticize her pet care in any way.
She used them, lied to them, & manipulated them constantly
. So it's kind of a relief to see some (former) stans actually pulling the rose-tinted glasses off & saying that something ain't right here.
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Yup, she’s a lost cause. Nobody can get her out of this but her, so she can’t blame anyone anymore for her miserable life. And we all know she’s probably blaming everyone/thing but herself for everything that’s happened to her.
She deserves what she gets at this point. Most people don’t have the support system she has, yet she still fucked it all up.
I have no sympathy for her anymore.
I think Tay just wants to be a martyr because it's easier than getting her shit together. She'd have nothing to complain or attention whore about if she didn't have problems or drama. As long as jonny is in her life people will be glued to the drama, they arn't watching taylor they're watching the show.
I mean it's a fun show and all but she'll probably end up dead, she'll continue to use with jonny no doubt about it. Theres only so long people are gonna give her a pass until they realize she doesn't wanna get better.
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Her daughter is choosing to stay with a scumbag over her own life.
She's also gaslighting her own mother by telling her that what she actually saw happen - didn't happen apparently.
If she is scared of blackmail its because jc knows how many animals suffered neglect and how many really died>>670704
Stans should have a say when the person is toxic
to society. Including making money off of animal neglect. It's not difficult to just be a decent person
I mean, would anyone be surprised anymore if she had tens of animals die? any fans she has left have been shown to not care about the animals besides them being cute. She could go "hehe oopsie, could happen to anyone!" and they would eat it up.
If animal blackmail is the reason she's going back, holy shit is it a dumb reason. The truth will come out eventually anyway. But I think the more likely reason of her taking him back is drugs and the fact that she cant live without drama.
I mean putting aside the fact it's Taylor, it's still a highly codependent and abusive
relationship in which they've been actually separated for the first time in 18 months. I'm not surprised that she's still trying to make it work. She was isolated from her family for over a year and she's been like half a month away from Jonny, of course she's still going to try to get back together with him, because she's codependent. I don't think it's because he has dirt on her as much as it is because she still thinks of herself as a savior.
But if she keeps doing this she'll end up with nothing just like Jonny.
Doesn't it take an average of six escape attempts for someone to leave an abusive
partner? Johnny might croak before Taylor actually grows the willpower to stay away from him. I remember that some anons a few threads back were speculating that she's waiting on this to happen so that she avoids getting blackmailed as well; that could be the case.
Yes. I think it's around 7 times that it takes for someone to leave an abusive
relationship, and leaving is actually the most dangerous time for the victim
Realistically speaking, this is the first time Taylor is actually away from Jonny. She got into this fully knowing that he was abusive
, but she thought of herself as the exception and a savior, but it backfired, which put her career and even her health at risk.
I do feel a bit sorry about her because nobody deserves to be abused, but at the same time she was dumb as fuck because she chose a piece of garbage and drugs over a cushy life with an easy job. This is the kind of shit that will make her bang her head against a wall in regret when she's older.
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just when i thought he couldn't get any stupider. jesus fuck
shes vile, but super underage.
what is his problem with underage female popular figures?
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Jen's posted at least 50 names since this already…
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Looks like she’s starting damage control over all of the things she’s liked or said about JC. JC has been quiet about it, my guess is he’s taking it out on Taylor, and Jen has to play nice again or Taylor will stop talking to her.
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That's funny considering this was her 2 hours ago
"If she takes him back, it's going to be a huge blow to her career."
Dude are you serious? Her career was blown when she started neglecting and killing all those animals.
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He'll drop her once she isn't of any use to him. He's not terrified of losing her
, but her money.
omg anon, this is so true though>>670737
he got one mention anon, leave it alone. you're the one bringing him back into the conversation.>>670746
assuming she even had any real intention of escaping here>>670747
yes I think some in this thread could powerlevel abut those who've been lost after recovering then taking heroin again. it's very real
Is it legal for her to rehome those animals since they're technically Taylor's (and maybe technically Jonny's in a few cases, idk about Twisty or the cats?) I remember in the twitter drama when Taylor first moved out or maybe just went off to LA to meet Jonny, her parents threatened to rehome her animals because she abandoned them. But that didn't work out well for them last time.
Like of course I'd love to see all the animals rehomed, that would be best. I'd even support over doing nothing if Jen decided to give Taylor an ultimatum- get clean and get to keep her animals, or go back to Jonny and lose all the pets, but I'm not sure she's actually in a position to rightfully rehome animals that aren't actually hers.
She'd have to give Taylor proper notice to retrieve the animals, but ultimately no you cannot compel someone to keep animals on your behalf.
A lot of those Animal Cops shows they played back in the day had incidents where temporary caregivers relinquished dogs after the real owner bounced
A heroin addict really shouldn't be looking after 50+ pets to begin with. I'm sure mama dean could do it but it would destroy her relationship with Taylor. It wouldn't stop her from buying more anyway, or getting them back.>>670898>yoooooo buy my new album bitchessssszz
special announcement sounds like ad or love bombing we missed u bubbbs!
Taylor's an adult so the only thing Jen can do is either give or withhold support. She could tell Taylor to pay for animal carer/s to come in, for example.
Those poor cats must be so unstimulated and stressed with people disappearing.
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Found his album cover.
I sadly think so too.
Jonny now knows he gets Taylor to do anything if he's spewing enough "i love you bubble" in her ears.
Over this she could finally lose her fans and family and the next time she's in the hospital, no one could care anymore.
If Jonny doesn't leave her as soon as her money's gone, she's fucked.>>670752
Exactly this. Taylor's mom was ranting so much, cause she thought she had won. But Jonny was the one talking to Taylor, with every tweet Jen made, he had more against Jen. He used her crazy mother to get Taylor to think he's the only one caring about her and supporting her, because her mom goes crazy online. >>670814
I doubt it, but it would be the masterplan if she's keeping Jonny close to keep him calm and tells Jen she's going back to him, cause she knows her mom can't shut up on the internet. Jonny thinks he's won, but then Taylor gets back, kicks him out of the house or just goes back to her mom.
Sounds great, but I doubt this will happen.
only thing that'll snap her out of it is if she OD and rushed to the hospital to wake up on a hospital bed alone looking for Jonny. While her "perfect boyfriend" is out promoting his new music with his new girl "friends" but then there's still a chance Taylor will still stay with him.
Only thing that'll stop her is if her money runs out and Jonny doesn't want to be with a 30 year old moneyless girl when he can get another 20 year old rich fan.
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Honestly the major problem with this whole 'Taylor is an adult thing' is the fact that Taylor is 21, has no family support (her mother sucks and that's all), probably has issues with her family (her brother gets most of the attention) and no one seems to have taught her how to be responsible.
Sure, she's an adult but she is clearly a vulnerable person (who makes herself a victim
as much as possible), so being in an abusive
relationship with no familial or friend support means she's fucked.
Jen needs to stop shit talking everything on twitter and get up and go help her fucking kid who was accepting help before she apparently got manipulated by Jonny.
Healthy Taylor chose jonny soo…
Unless she sorts out her mental shit, she'll fall back into the same bad habits. It's one thing to say you'll change when your puking over the toilet, but another to do it when your feeling healthier.
The POINT of the whole 'taylor is an adult thing' is that she can't legally be forced to do anything by her parents. They can't put her into a facility, force her to be away from JC, they can't even really go rehome her animals.
Her mom can only help if taylor wants to be helped, which she does not.
I'm sure Taylor is subconsciously wanting help but gets influenced super fast that she forgets her own feelings. Her messed up parents are the cause and if they were actually parents, she wouldn't even be stupid ass hell.
I've grown tired of trying to think about the positive side for Taylor though. I know for a fact that once she comes back, she'll be back with her narcissist self and start blaming her parents and haters for bringing her down. Rehab can help stop you from ODing but it won't stop you from your own personality.
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and jen sits on her ass the whole day customizing these dumb fucking cartoons. why do so many cows use these?
and yeah, no shit JC isn't in NY to look after his dad. It couldn't have been more obvious.
I'm not gonna ride this train. Not even buying a ticket.>>671083
Kiwicels make their way to the GG thread to defend their trash witch goddess and her pedo prince, mostly.
She seems to just see money as a solution for everything. Spending x on rehab has to do something,
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She also has animals and in bad conditions
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What’s this loser talking about? He tweeted this 15 mins ago, went to Jonny’s insta and I don’t see anything particularly weird (I mean, anything weirder than what he usually posts)
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This dude seriously acting and pretending like someone would wanna do time for him.
Jonny all people gotta do is wait with your ass.
Also fuck Taylor, I knew it. Won t be surprised if this whole rehab thing is just so she can "use casually in the weekends" so she went and got a reset. And she'll think she can control it after she comes out of rehab.
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yeah, he definitely mistook the cat video for something else. really tells you more about his mind than JC's…
This, I wish they would just spill the milk already instead of making vague cringe tweets about him. Jen has said multiple times she supposedly has proof (text messages or videos or something) or horrible things Jonny has done/said. Stop being a 12 year old posting song lyrics and spill what he’s done. He’s the biggest manipulator here, why is everyone going so easy on him?
Oh, and Jen, if you do decide to spill it, do it right. Attach a video of the messages being scrolled trough along with the photos, otherwise “it’s just edited and fake” will be used against you.
As if Jonny could even afford a gun, much less a “dirty” one. He’s so pathetic. If he really thought he was so “gangster” wouldn’t he just illegally own a firearm? He is just a pussy in every sense of the word.
Also, I assume he’s making reference to Amanda with the gone girl reference. Honestly, can’t say I don’t believe him. She’s always come off as obsessed to me and some of her tweets about him make me cringe. She still goes on about him all these years later. Go get some therapy and don’t even acknowledge this scums existence. Not trying to WK but this has always been my observation of Amanda pre-Taylor. However, would anyone care if Amanda did gone girl his ass? He totally deserves it.
I think he’s implying that he has an illegal gun >>671306
Cant wait til he accidentally shoots himself.
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“Why did everyone think I was playing with my disease ridden carrot?”
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is he foreal lol
I honestly thought that JC’s cat story actually was his dick and I was like “wtF DID I JUST SEE”
Then I turned up the brightness on my phone and saw it was a cat and was so relieved lmao. Maybe that’s what Mama Dean was talking about
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Sure he doesn’t use Taylor’s money. That’s why he’s stuck in NY living at his dad’s, and why he couldn’t afford to go back for his dentist appointment.
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Jonny’s been unusually active on his discord today. Here are him and his fans sperging over turtlemom reposting the screenshot from earlier >>671306
from lolcow to twitter. JC starts to flex fis arms and guns and – predictably – says turtlemom must be amanda, chelsea’s mom or taylor’s parents.
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jonny posts their address (?)
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random tidbits about taylor and then his ex.
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jonny on the drama. lol@ devil in carnet.
again sorry that the timestamps are messed up on the screenshots, these are from about 5-6pm his local time.
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also, hate to bring this fucking account into this again, but turtlemom is saying that authorities have been informed about the gun situation.
Is this him confessing to cheating? Or is he being sarcastic? He has terrible grammar so it’s hard to tell lol
Even if he’s being sarcastic he probably has cheated on her though.
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we get it anon your a jonny fan, go shill somewhere else. Your not gonna convince anyone here he's not a POS.
FFS Taylor is seriously mentally ill if she thinks dating this 33 y/o loser is good for her. all those hoodies and shit just hide the fact that he's a fat fuck.
So what makes you an expert in victim
behavior? Your probably a 13 fan girl that’s has zero life experience or your JC himself. Go back to Twitter and suck Jonny’s nuts.
no anon he is not for real>>671451
listing taylor's parents among his exes. quite foretelling>>671467
cheating on whichever of them has the tro against him (amanda?)>>671487
ugh you sad sack, go send jonny your donation
wow what a lovely boyfriend you have, Taylor. Any MAN that loves his girl and respects her would never bring her family down in public even if they are crazy. You sure did pick the most perfect guy, especially one that can't stop talking about his exs.>>671452
he doxes everyone he comes in contact with.>>671457> Devil in carnet
If an artistic anon could meld >>671477
it would really be something
or we could not tell victims
how to behave, that's a start…>>671342
Isn't it illegal for him to own one in the first place?>>671455
He's really intimidated by his past victims
. Classic predator, trying to downplay their experiences to live his little delusion.>>671611
This is beautiful!!!
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If Jonny was able to take a picture then it’s not stored properly. In NY if you live with somebody unable to own a firearm legally then all firearms must be locked up at all times. In a box, with a trigger
lock and all ammo located in a separate locked box. It’s too bad he didn’t take a pic with his ugly mug next to it.
maybe I'm projecting but the situation with her brother is a pretty fucking big hardship. I get that she's pretty rich and has a supportive family in that sense, but this strikes me like saying money solves all of your problems in life and if you're rich you can't possibly struggle.
Taylors decisions, at least to me, are more likely the result of resignation to becoming a full time carer when she's older. It's a thing lots of siblings of disabled people struggle with, your entire life revolves around them and then when your parents die, you're stuck with looking after them for the rest of your life too. Why go to school, build a career, start a family or focus on your own future at all when you know as soon as your parents die it's going to be ripped away from you anyway? May as well make decisions that are fun now but bad in the long run, because your future is fucked anyway. Taylor's whole>I wanted the experience
Thing makes a lot more sense if you look at it like this. She knows one day she wont be able to do anything she
wants ever again.
I am pretty sure Medicaid or Medicare would cover that…
Taylor probably never gave a single thought to caring for her brother once her parents are gone. It's not like she's legally obligated.
>>671666>It's not like she's legally obligated.
But she's his next of kin, is that not how it works in the US?>>671667
Ah, I'm unfamiliar with how this works in the US, forgive me. I'm really surprised that you aren't legally obligated to become POA/guardian for your family members considering it's an insurance based system. Does he become like a ward of the state or something like that and would his care not depend on her parents or her having insurance? Even though we have an NHS you can't do that here.
Adult siblings have no legal responsibility to care for their adult siblings in the US.
In the past, it’s been unusual for people with Prader-Willi Syndrome to live past 40. Now that it’s better understood, there are people living into their 60s. Taylor’s brother may or may not be one of them.
Sorry anon, my fault, now I understand.
The good thing is that he is in NY, without money to leave at this point and NY will never allow him to legally own or carry because of his past. It doesn’t matter if his tro has expired. And you can catch a gun charge a bit too easily up here so let’s hope for that. Unfortunately it’d be street cred in his mind.
Most common lie an abusive
person will tell you.
"All my exes are crazy, not me I swear! It's their problem not mine, they're just jealous reeeeee"
this is retarded. taylor will never have to care for her brother. she is not legally responsible for him. this is just more bullshit from wk's bemoaning poor taylor's tragic life.
prader-willi gets tanner automatic medicaid and medicare and his mother has probably been getting bennies from the govt. for as long as tanner's been alive.
I bet all my money that Taylor is going to go back with Jonny once she's able to. Her excuses about having an addictive personality and her lies is deeply engraved in her mind that she BELIEVES that she has no choice and HAS to do drugs and all this stupid shit due to her illness.
Taylor, and her parents, should go into therapy right after rehab.
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Why would Taylor want to stay up there???
Away from her animals, friends & family?
…Oh yeah, Jonny has to isolate her the 'right' way this time. Then she won't get scooped up by her parents & be able to tell them what happened.
More like Taylor wants to get away from all of that and go on a drug binge with Jonny. She doesn't give a shit about her pets, she doesn't have any friends other than her maid, and her parents are batshit insane.
It's hardly isolation/manipulation if Taylor wants to go there out of her own free will.
Tinfoil but thinking about it I feel like these are from Taylors father. It sounds a lot like him (especially the double spaces after periods) and her dad obviously really hates Jonny. Can't be her mom cause Jen illiterate. Might be Betsy but I kind of feel like Betsy is done with Taylors crap at this point. She doesn't have anyone else in her life that she would talk to about this and a rando wouldn't know this much.
If it really is her father, then he really needs to sit down and think about his life. Him and his wife went on a whole smear campaign calling the exes crazy and defending Jonny and are now saying that what Taylor "endured" was 5 times as bad. Fuck all these people lol
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yeah I'm with you. She can't be that stupid as to get manipulated by jonny, the idiot that can hardly string a sentence together. she wants this. >>671735
I don't think the animals are worse off right now than they were with taylor. I do hope they are rehomed asap.
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Finding new homes for those poor exploited animals is inevitable.
The YouTube gravy train is over for TND
Do the right thing mama dean unless you are holding off hoping they will have more value to her stans after she od’s
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Then what the fuck are you waiting for? You cant babysit her animals forever, she decided to hoard just because the retard decided to get addicted.
At least once she gets out of rehab she can go get OD in NY free wihtout the guilt of letting her pets behind. It's not the first time she neglected them for Jonny.
Some people are into stink, your body produces pheromones that are washed off in the shower.
Hot and sweaty after a workout? Yes
4 weeks without bathing and junkfood? Fuck no
Jonny is a disgusting creep, her bad hygiene probably makes him feel better about his own shitty failing body. Probably says anything that Taylor wants to hear, calling her lack of hygiene a disgusting mess doesn't help his hidden agenda.
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Now it makes more sense why he calls her bubble!
anons here like to tinfoil that he's not, but there's no reason to believe that he's anywhere else. he also posted this >>668235
while there, which makes me think he is at his dad's.
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Why does he have to be such a fucking ASSHOLE all of the time. You sound like a jealous pig. Even if he is “jk” there’s a time and place for it.
If your going to post memes, please do a little more editing
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Dad bod alert lower right?
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That explains it.
Fucking Christ, how is he still alive?
No wonder his body is falling apart. What is it with drug addicts and fast food, too lazy to cook for themselves and no self control to stop from eating shit. I'm surprised he's not bigger, 5'5 and getting fatter. Whats he gonna look like when he's 40 christ.
Yeah, hence >>671795
dad bod. Cus JC isn’t a “dad”, in any meaning of the word.
I'd be seriously ashamed to have him as my son. No doubt his dad has his own issues, pretty much does confirm he's at his house tho.
Hopefully his dad is in on the whole situation and keeps him away from Taylor but I doubt it.
in tears" cmon now Jonny, she couldn't rustle up a tear for you in your own version of this.
I think it may be outside. It looks like concrete and there's sunlight on the table.
BUT it's been cloudy all day where he is. So maybe it could also be crappy lighting inside? But overall it's a weird pairing style-wise because it doesn't match at all for a home
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She is so confusing
This woman is crazy. It must be stressful for Taylor having her mom giving statments for her everytime they talk. Whatever she say rn is withdrawal talking, addicts flip flop about their decisions all the time while getting clean.
Mama Dean cant be passive aggresive on Twitter downgrading Taylor meanwhile she cant defense herself or at least tell her to drop it off. I would be surprise if Jonny didnt take this opportunity to tell Taylor her mother is twitting things that are worse than they actually are.
do you all really think taylor is going back to johnny after? because i feel like she still doesnt plan to. i think the problem is her crazy fucking mom tweets every single thing ever spoken between her and her "starlet" daughter and she had to tell johnny she was going back to him to not freak him out.
its honestly fucking stupid that her mom puts so much for everyone to see for the world, it'd be more forgivable if she was a teen or something. the amount she tweets about literally every personal detail in her life is insane.>>671900
honestly i dont even know if its flipflopping or just a defense. taylor knew johnny was a problem for the last few weeks or so, i think she would have just left rehab after 7 days if she wanted to cool down on the use for a bit and not have him go to NY.
if she was high and noticing this, then i feel led to believe when slightly more sober she an at least make the rational decision to not hop back into that
Hold up a second. Jonny's the one telling the world Taylor's every move, that she was in a facility, wants basically a conjugal visit and will be staying with him in NY (so he thinks anyway).
If Taylor were the one placating Jonny with no real intention of follow through, why would she point blank tell Jen that Jen's got it wrong and Taylor's really going back to Jonny? And that is literally all Jen has leaked - messy as she is the rest has just been her feelings day by day.
Taylor's not on twitter all day reading this stuff, she's in rehab, she's talking to Jonny on the phone. She's doing what she wants to do right now, only hopefully she'll change her mind about that before she leaves the program. If she knew how the public is taking it I honestly don't think she'd go back to him right now, myself. But right now she doesn't know anything except that filthy mumbler saying "bubble".
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Johnny has clearly been reading here (nothing new) since we commented on his dad bod and he posted pics of himself shirtless, lol. I guess he thinks he's hot, no surprise there. But he seems to be way more obsessed with reading here and his haters in general. Also being much more bold with posts directed at lolcow.
He also posted a couple vids with an older man in them. I've kinda had doubts that he's with his dad but maybe he is after all? Also there's a better pic with Dad's face but idk if that's against the rules? I read them but I'm on the fence so have his dad's (presumably) legs instead
You're tinfoiling out of your ass>>671903
This is the most likely. The last thing we got from her were instagram posts about the breakup.
Funny how Taylor's in rehab but Jonny isnt despite the fact he's clearly high as fuck and still using, and has been using, you can tell by his vitals, like pupils, puffy hands, erratic behaviour, and he does have connections there because he posted a screen cap of a friend the other day asking to get high! For all we know, the second after he screen capped that, he sent a text saying "just kidding let's do it".
He's clearly still using, maybe he just uses enough to remain functional since hes a decade long experienced user, wheris I feel like Taylor, being young, dumb and new to the stuff just doesn't know when to stop and over uses.
I feel like the hospital visit was just a routine check of all her vitals, maybe some bloods and stuff just to make sure she's fit enough to go through with rehab and receive any medications she might need during withdrawals.
Jonny should just as equally be in there, there's no fucking way on earth shes been the only one using.
Which raises the question, why is she getting help and not him? Not very supportive or equal of him if he loves his bubble so much, you'd think he'd be going through the works too but he's not. All his caring stuff right now is such a facade.
Well he's clearly making bank so he claims, can pay for his drugs clearly through his pinpoint eyes.
He's such a bullshitter, go to rehab Jonny you fat gross fuck.
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Theory: Taylor is still wishy-washy about getting back together, hence the love bombing. I'm thinking even if she does see jonny they will still be "on break" for a while, I think Taylor is buying time so she can find another BF when she gets out. She can't stand being alone but she'd lose alot of her victim
status by staying with jonny, shes just waiting for the chance to "tell her story" and claim pity points.
She's extremely selfish and will thrown anyone under the bus for attention. I'm sure her some of her animals have died or deteriorated at this point.
>>671947>why is she getting help and not him?
Simple, he doesn't want to stop using. You can't force an addict to go to rehab.
If Taylor would've given him an ultimatum like "it's me or drugs" he would've broken up with her or tried getting clean (without professional help) for like a week or so. They're miserable with each other and one "why not use it one more time" thought is enough to fall back.
I doubt Jonny's ever getting clean and as long as Taylor can't stay away from him she won't either.
I'm with the anons saying she's going to die if she stays with him. Be it because of drugs or because he'll kill her someday.
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Can't wait to see post-facility Taylor create the most BS paragraph for instagram
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>don’t bring my son into this !,!1,1!
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Good good person
Right! Finally something not cryptic!
Good at exploiting/hoarding animals
Good at doing heroin
Good at lying
Good at sabotaging her “career”
Good at destroying her life
Get off the internet mrs dean don’t you have a $4000/month hoard to rehome?
Or are you waiting until the overdose to clear it out?
Wonder if the landlord knows they rented the house to an abandoned zoo.
Must smell good in there
This is typical narc shit, half-truths, gaslighting and guilt-trips.
She's probably doing it from a place of concern but this never works, it only shows how much of a manipulative bitch you are.
She needs to tell her I'm re-homing your animals, your a heroin addict and you have a problem. If Taylor try's to pull any shit, drop the milk on jonny.
Taylor is not a good person, she's a criminal, she's mentally ill, she's an addict, she's an enabler, she's a hoarder.
She's the kind of person that gives animal keepers a bad name. She literally exploits her animals and their well being for profit. I wouldn't even be as bother but as other anons have said her animal care is dogshit.
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I don’t know the extent of Tanner’s cognitive abilities, but I do know he can use the internet. She talks about him getting mad at her for wearing clothes that made her look naked on the Internet in this video starting at .20.
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Not even in the same ballpark of stupid. TND tries to hard to be these people, bella thorne, logan paul, ect. At least they're honest about what they are, TND tries to play it all innocent and coy.
These people are selfish, predatory narcissists that steal peoples time and money but they have the common sense not to do heroin.
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When are you going to do the right thing?
Rehome those poor pet props!
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AKA heroin binges…
She's 22 with a high income, her parents aren't a factor in where she chooses to live and with who. She's not even reading Jen's tweets, guaranteed.>>672180
Jonny claims she's going to 'stay' there since it's remote and there are no drugs around, pinky swear.
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Umm… tuned in and he’s watching some plastered girl play Twister then roll around, tits out and wrapped herself up with the Twister mat? ……… what in the hell
Not even surprised, she's way above his caliber anyway and smarter than she looks. Twitch thots gonna twitch thot, pretty good business model to separate losers from their money.
He'll just jerk off, like hundreds of others, and cry himself to sleep cause he's lonely.
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Wonder what this means
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yep, looks like he didnt even stream today.
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and tay didn't call him
so he didnt get a phone call within 27 minutes and he throws a big ass hissy fit and claims to get the hint… yet when everyone sent him screenshots of Taylor posting that they broke up, he didnt get the hint?
what a whiny little bitch
Jen: guys stop making Jonny mad, you will get me kill
For things like Jonny does online (guiltripping her, love bomb,etc) is why you can’t have a relationship during rehab. She is vomiting her shit out and he does temper tantrum for a call.
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Ew, imagine this thing watching you
wtf, he really must like watching her. A week or so ago, he did a just chatting and he was laughing at the same girls channel since she does ASMR.
I bet he watches her a lot since she wears little clothing/dances all the time
I went to his twitch to skip around past streams and he is deleting them? The last one is from June 12.
like why would be delete all the recent ones? ..
Shows how he is constantly trying to find a new girl to leech off of. Also shows how little girls actually want him…
I'm ready for someone to fall for it though (obviously there are always girls as thirsty and mentally ill and lonely as Taylor) and we can watch history repeat itself again
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yeah, jen, sure, the world is messed up because someone posted porn on twitter. jfc this lady
Wait until she finds out the number of sex works posting their stuff on Twitter! I can't take her seriously. "PORN? ON THE INTERNET? OUTRAGEOUS!"
You know it's as easy as going to Google and typing in 'porn' right? If kids want to find it, they will. Man she's crazy,
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Well this is telling of his mindset.
Taylors out there semi trying and then there's Jonny who couldn't give two shits about anybody, not even himself.
What a loser, he could reverse his failing liver and prolong his life substantially.
Shit it isn't hard, stop doing drugs, stop drinking, stop eating mcdonalds 3 times a day, start working out, drink more water and being consistent about it.
He's just so fuckin lazy and comfy in his little junkie den. He never really had to apply himself, he was carried by his band-mates and THEIR vision and dreams. He'll die because hes too afraid of being uncomfortable.
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looks like taylor stopped calling, boo hoo
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Ah yes, gotta lay that manipulation on REAL thick.
Good thing she doesn't have access to any Social Media, lmao
Sadly I wouldn't be surprised if she maybe gained some insights but went right back to how she was living. Also wouldn't be surprised if she only went to rehab because they gave her some sort of ultimatum or something. She did kinda mention that she was at least considering moving back to her parents house so I wonder if she asked to and they told her that she'd have to go to rehab.
A lot of people do that and while some get at least something out of it most usually go right back to what they were doing before.
That or I really could just see it all be some terrible PR move since her fans were mad that she didn't do residential/inpatient treatment.
ALso wondering if she's just telling Johnny what he wants to hear and is actually trying or if she's seriously falling for his shit again and never really intended to break up with him for good (of course that could be an attempted PR move too, lol)
The human body is pretty resilient, if he cuts the drugs and switches his diet he'd at least buy more time.>>672707
I wonder if she'll just ghost him. That'd be one way to get rid of him. She knows jonny is toxic
for her and her career but she is a flip floping cow.
I reckon she's spilled some truth with her therapist and they're laying out all the stages and signs of abuse and she's becoming more and more aware of his manipulation the longer she spends away from him.
It took me several weeks away from my abuser with no contact to finally realise what was actually going on, I hope it's the same for Taylor.
Jonny looks like he doesn't even know what's going on but look at the whiny crybaby shit he's posting, can't imagine he'd act chill if she says leave me alone.
If she straight up doesn't talk to him he'll crack. He's already breaking down, he knows his position is bad, the desperation is so pathetic.
Then he'll go in to "that fukin bitch! wat a hoe, hur just another one of my crazy exes!!"
What kinda family did Taylor think she could raise with this manchild. He doesn't get along with her family, he's constantly drugged up, he's dying of liver failure, has no job or money, unhealthy as fuck, abandoned his child, violent and manipulative, got her addicted to heroin.
Now he thinks he's gonna be a twitch star playing games LMAO. That alone is the most pathetic thing I've seen from a 33 y/o man. That's probably the reason she'd get rid of him more than anything, such a turn off.
KEYWORDS: UNTIL YOU DECIDE ORHERWISE.
He tried to come off all supportive, but then just exposes his true self, always.
Mods have said before that we need to just let a thread die if there's no milk. At the moment the most milk is Jonny being the same and Jen being pathetic and not exactly being related to Taylor.
I don't think we will see Taylor back anytime soon so idk how long we will go around this.
Liver disease anon:
I have a liver condition it’s not caused by alcohol but i acts similar to one that is and while technically yes the solution is changes in diet and exercise it’s by no means easy because having a liver disease means that you have to rule out most if not all medications that might be addressing other issues because almost everything goes through and aggravates your liver. It’s hell honestly to hear people tell you “it’s easy get motivated” because it really isn’t because if your liver is already there you probably have three or four other conditions fucking with your insulin or your cholesterol that you can’t take medication to treat and are making you resistant to weight loss etc. Not sure the specifics on Jonny but I imagine he for sure has something else going on considering his level of bloating and weight gain(blogging)
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I personally think JC and Jen milk is fine, they're in the thread title for fucks sake. Their ramblings also give clues about Taylor and speculating about that is fine, imo. If you don't care, just don't check the thread.
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some context since I had no idea who the thot is.
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Guess Jonny didn't notice when the girl posted this a bit back. Too busy looking at her other photos
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Open tabs show he is still looking at apartments in San Antonio.
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I scrolled across this but I figured it was relevant here.
As soon as I read the "gib monies pls, every penny counts" I thought of Luna.
Now that I think of it, how hilarious would a Luna/Jonny collide be. Too bad Luna is poor, overweight and ugly.
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Why does this come off as so creepy to me. I imagine him just scrolling through looking at pictures of her every night thinking she’s his, and that he “owns” her. When I’m reality hopefully she’s ignoring him or the facility is finally discussing and laying out how abusive he is and trying to keep her away from him.
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I’m sure Taylor sent you those in rehab.
I think I've read about a week apart? correct me if i'm wrong.>>673144
probably a new girl since he didn't even say Taylor or even tag her. He would've lovebombed her with "Taylor just sent me this guysss fuck yesss"
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It’s was only ONE scam guys.. get over it. This is laughable.
Also uhhh yeah sure it was “one scam” but he used that scam on multiple people and I sincerely doubt any of them were paid back.
BITCH IT WAS TWO SCAMS!! /s
The audacity of this guy to say it was "one" scam 6+ years ago lol. Take some accountability for it. Anyone who was actually sorry would just own up for it and be humble about being called out on it. Being scammed is a shitty thing, even shittier if it comes from someone who is in a privileged position like Jonny. Fuck him. I hope he never lives it down and people continue to remind him just because he's still a cunt about it.
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How could someone send heroin per mail?
Don't they scan their mail in the states?
Where I live every package gets scanned for illegal objects/substances and they let sniffer dogs roam around mail.
JC's ex is saying he's getting drugs mailed to him and an anon reminded us he'd been asking for help accessing the dark web.
if we could read before posting, that'd be fucking fantastic.
pretty sure anyone who isn't a fifteen year old ex-taylor fan is well aware of this?
Laughing at the anon who says they're really cracking down on dark web black markets. Takes forever for the gov to get permission to do anything, but it's super simple to make a new website. Like how your fav streaming site gets a slightly different domain name the morning after the old site gets taken down.