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21 year old "family friendly pet mom" Youtuber, her 32 year old junkie boyfriend Jonny Craig, and her creepy controlling mother.
Previous thread: >>>/pt/632726
The basics:> Taylor is a notorious animal hoarder known for collecting 40+ rare and exotic pets and manhandling/mistreating them for the sake of her Youtube channel which has over 1 million subscribers. Several pets have died in her care, many more have fallen ill due to her neglect or disappeared after "rehoming" them. Fails to give proper enclosures for many of her pets, including overstuffing fish tanks, keeping her kittens locked in the bathroom, and her mouse and hedgehog in the closet.> Jonny Craig was the frontman of the band Slaves and is most well-known for being an outspoken abusive junkie. He has been in and out of rehab centers for a decade now and has been kicked out of multiple bands and off of tours for his behavior. He is usually homeless when he does not have a girlfriend to leech off of.> Several of Jonny's ex-girlfriends have come out with stories of Jonny's physical and sexual abuse, including rape at knife-point. His ex Chelsea confided this in Taylor when she and Jonny first started dating, in which Taylor's response was to laugh with Jonny and make a public spectacle of it.> Taylor loves to throw pity parties for herself and dodge around the real issues when faced with criticism about her husbandry, hoarding, and hypocrisy. She can never keep her stories straight and will tell outright lies only to contradict them hours later. Her fans are sycophants who only encourage her.
Facebook (private:) https://www.facebook.com/Taylor.Nicole.Dean
List of all Taylor's pets:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QNUksDcQk_cqLTkTFTiPjP2pCGBQgORyCesIIqvZ2Zs/edit?pli=1
Stats of Taylor’s pets and history:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1e8bakM4GHa2J1y4qwYsB-T0jSpN5uWCI_q0dv-odij4/htmlview#
New Milk:> Kronos is not dead (somehow) but is still incredibly untame> Most of her time is now spent on Instagram going on possibly drug induced rambles, contradicting herself every other comment, and talking about how much she loves her animals and definitely does not neglect them> Jonny was kicked from the Slaves for incessant drug use http://archive.is/JO9vO> Taylor admitted to using heroin, this was corroborated by texts from Jonny http://archive.is/4GnJG http://archive.is/6sYGI> Claims they will be attending rehab> Accused former friend Breezexotics of sexual harassment http://archive.is/HiCCr> Has deleted Twitter once again and disabled comments on Instagram> Friends have gone on damage control, trying to save their own reputations> Several YouTubers have made videos on the situation
Videos which sum up the situation: https://youtu.be/IczGyFh0LBghttps://youtu.be/9tblAt5NX9w
Old Milk:> Snakes are morbidly obese> Has returned from over a month long hiatus (for now)> Versatile Reptiles, Breezexotixs, and whatever (video anon) are verified with Tripcodes> Still never made an apology video for slandering South Texas Dragons> Admits to live feeding, and knocking rodents out with blunt force instead of a CO2 chamber (as recently as mid Nov, also leaving a live feeder alone with her snake for 20 mins, only checking on it once)> Mushu has been shown without much gill feathering left recently shown much more clearly with facial scarring, even less feathering and stressed posturing> Attempted to purchase two new crocodile skinks on the down low before a smaller pettuber ratted on the cover-up of the deaths> Claiming that she's one of the few pettubers that is actually up front with the accident and the issues they have, despite trying to continuous hide the deaths of her mantis shrimp, lionfish, skinks, pacman frog etc for weeks-months after they happened> More enclosures being shown with completely empty water dishes> Cheese died suddenly, convenietly when she released new merch featuring him, has been pushing her merch harder than usual> She has alluded to a ‘friend’ that has a cowfish twice the size of cheese that she may replace Cheese with (if she hasn’t already)> Gave Cheese a “viking funeral” then sent him for autopsy (put him on a boat during a monetized video)> Videos calling out her care have stated to take over searches for her> In combination with the call-out videos on YT, after she posted the video of Cheese’s “funeral” TND began to hemmorage subscribers> Other pettubers began making (monetized) videos to defend TND and claiming that they were worried that “the bullying against Taylor” might ‘make her’ self harm> Other pettubers begin distancing themselves from TND> TND shuts off comments on the videos and instagram posts around cheese amid mass criticism > Has been bouncing deactivations on her twitter and instagram during the controversy around Cheese> Recent Known Deaths: Orchid Mantis, Mantis Shrimp, Pacman Frog, Crocodile Skinks, Zazu, Cheese
Unconfirmed Milk:> Ursula (Halloween Crab) died of a mismolt, was possibly replaced with another female crab.> Electrical malfunction story was fabricated. Croc Skinks died of dehydration due to her not giving them enough water during a heatwave. Pacman frog died of malnutrition due to only being fed mice. > Gucci escaped from their enclosure and was missing for 2 months. Taylor bought Parada as a replacement. Gucci was found in Gus’ enclosure after eating him. Taylor claimed Gus died of old age. > Had a mite infestation, Bindi (Blue Tongue Skink) had it extremely badly> Mantis Shrimp died after only a few days instead of a few months as claimed> Leopard Gecko is kept in a dark tub
All Previous Threads:
General Pettuber Thread:>>>/snow/730730
Yes!! Can we please emphasize this. Elijah Daniel was TERRIBLE to Christine. He went from "fun youtuber" to sound cloud rapper extraordinaire hanging out with Tana. He has extensive history with xanax abuse, and god knows what else.
This doesn't sound good to me.
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It’s ok guys he’s done this before for other drug abusers, he’s an expert! /s
You know what would be better than that?
Spending the well worth it $20,000 to admit herself to an inpatient drug addiction unit to detox there. Trained drug addiction recovery professionals could probably do a better job of helping her than some random dumbass rapper on the internet.
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Great place for Taylor to detox at! (This was Eijah Daniel’s NYE party)
>disabled comments on Instagram
Her comments have been open the entire time. She said that she is not manually deleting comment but is using a filter based on words used in negative comments.
OP anon, if you used archive.is because of my suggestion in the last thread, I was referring to archiving the source of the screenshots, not the screenshots themselves.
I'm pretty sure she doesn't want to get clean. She's only pretending right now because she couldn't deny the drug use anymore after Jonny got outed by the band, and she did by association.
Maybe she'll get rid of Jonny by leaving, but she's probably just leaving her animals to suffer so she can continue getting high with a new crowd.
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Sorry if this has been posted already.
I have yet to see one video encouraging hate groups to rise up. This woman is actually delusional and needs professional mental help just as much as Taylor does.
She isn’t capable of caring for them. However just because she can pay someone else to do it, that in her eyes = being capable of caring for them. Taylor, being capable of PAYING for them does not = CARING for them yourself. She’s so delusional it’s scary. I pray that she leaves Jonny, but if it’s just Jonny at the house by himself + sometimes the assistants, that’s not safe at all for her animals?? He’s absolutely insane and could definitely hurt them/let them loose… I could see him letting a few loose and saying oh sorry babe I was just trying to help and they got away!!
Maybe this is why she has locks on her enclosures. Maybe only she and the assistants have keys to them, who knows.
She’s honestly stupid, running away from everything does NOT = getting healthier. She needs to get them rehomed, Jonny our safely through the police, and focus on herself. BY HERSELF like her own tattoo says! She needs inpatient care, I really don’t see this working for her
Tyler was being careless in his livestream (by calling Jonny abusive and telling Taylor to leave publicly) and now Elijah is being careless on Twitter by telling the world that she’s going to stay with him.
Taylor needs better friends. These ones are potentially putting her at risk so they can get asspats for white knighting.
.. I don't see how that sounds like she's breaking up with him.
In a comment on her latest IGpic, someone said they hope Taylor has an amazing time off with elijah… Taylor liked the comment.
Taylor and her so called friends needs to understand that having unlimited money won't help her get sober. No matter how much she spends on more drugs to fix her current drug addiction. she needs MORE EFFORT than money at this point. Don't want to blog but there's a crackhead near my apartment who, we found out, has a buttload of money in her bank account yet we see her on the streets, like a fuckin mess, high on drugs and yelling out gibberish. Taylor NEEDS to push herself, leave Jonny, fire her "assistants", force herself into rehab, and do things her own like a grown adult. Posting paragraphs of bullshit, videos of needles in the background, and having online friends that's obviously after those views will not help at all no matter how much she tries to convince herself
It's my hope that he is already out. He hasn't posted on Instagram in around 4 hours. The stuff with Elijah has seemed to come out around 2 hours ago.
Either way.. it's better than staying in that apartment with him. Elijah can tell her how to actually recover (I don't think jonny has been) and she can hear what she needs to hear about jonny in general.
I hope she does what she needs to do. And I hope those animals are fkn safe and away from jonny.
the actual message here isnt bad
if she wanted to actually learn to love herself she'd need to acknowledge shes the reason so many animals died and own up to her shit choices w her boyfriend and habits
not only that she would need to detox fully and drop social media for awhile to focus on herself
i dont happen to think taylor will do any of these things, but i can hope
major tinfoil but what if she's hoping
Jonny will lower the number of animals she has? either by stealing or killing them. Then she'll be able to play the victim (as she loves to do) and also have fewer animals to take care of. OR she's had animals die already, and when she tells people she broke up with Jonny, she can say he killed them, not her.
again big ol tinfoil but I would not put it past the Queen of PetTube to fuck her animals over like this just to cover her own ass
Wouldn’t save her because everyone could still point out that she chose to leave her animals in a situation where she knows they weren’t safe instead of just rehoming them because she wanted to prove she could be wacked out on heroin and have 50 pets, instead of taking her addiction seriously. And I don’t know…actually listening to everyone saying Jonny is an abuser.
I honestly can’t not cancel the bitch.
agreed but then she would just say "how dare you blame the victim! I never asked
him to do it so how could it possibly be my fault! hatur!!!"
I am not explaining this very well. She (probably) doesn't have to have a written lease with him. He has established residency there, because he has been living with her. So she becomes, in effect, his landlord. Even though she (probably) doesn;t have a written lease with him, the fact he is residing there and it is his home establishes a month-to-month unwritten lease. So sadly for her she cant kick him out or tell him not to come back, or change the locks or whatever. It is his home. What she can do is tell him she will give him cash in exchange for his keys and have him sign off on it so she has a legal record that he is voluntarily leaving, or if she doesnt mind waiting she can give him written notice that she wants him out (usually 30 days)
If I were her, and I were serious about getting him out, would be to pay him to leave.
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It was actually us that were addicted to heroin the whole time !
Yesssss these, I’m so sick of her “friends” coming around and telling the rest of us to shut up and how we’re so horrible. Yet they were the ones that were enabling her from the start? They knew everything and did nothing. Suddenly they all want to jump on the “support Taylor Nicole dean” bullshit only when she admits what she’s done publicly? Yeaaaah they’re in this for the views/publicity. It makes them look good that they ~care~ and the rest of us are just “haterz”. lol the fact that they did nothing to help until it blew up to this proportion really says how good of “friends” they are for her.
Both Jonny and Taylor are pieces of shit but I really do hope this is the beginning of her getting Jonny the fuck out. I really think that is her ONLY chance at having opportunity to turn her life around. It will never get better with Jonny no matter how much they say they love each other and are getting better.
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Elijah is so full of shit. His entire schtick is being a drug using drunk who does whatever the fuck he wants but "ironically".
I used to watch his & Christine Sydelko's videos and they split largely because she was so fed up of their lifestyle combined with him treating her like ass.
He's gonna ruin her chances as much as Johnny because he too is fake as hell.
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why hasnt toast ever grown
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From elijahs insta story. Taytay is not gonna get clean in this kind of party environment.
She just wants out of her current sitution without taking resonspibility. So shes gonna go party in l.a. and pretend that shes a rich superstar
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She also acknowledged him pubicly on insta.
Johnny must not be paying attention focusing on a new girl (insta model) or too doped up
Hes a "friend" of taytays whos irrelvent when it comes to being famous outside of being tana monagues gay best friend.
Hes claiming on twitter for the world to see that taytay is going to come to l.a. to come live with him and get clean despite him being an addict as well and living a party lifestyle
He's being a fucking asshole publicizing this whole thing. He shouldn't be one to talk??
He's literally putting Taylor in danger by doing this. It's already obvious he doesn't care about her.
If you're going to try to help someone out of an unsafe situation why post about it? Do people not know they don't have to tweet about everything
I guess she needs an excuse for why nobody will be seeing pictures of her animals for a little bit?
Reminder that Jonny threatened to flush her kitten down the toilet before. They're being such idiots.
So leave Betsy to the animals and
Jonny now too???
This is also a slap in the face to whoever of the pet tubers, her "friends" have been trying to reach out to her. She chooses this guy?
Also nobody is attacking Taylor FOR having an addiction. WHAT IS CONCERNING IS THAT SHE HAS ALSO BEEN CARING FOR TONS OF ANIMALS. That is NOT
the norm for people shooting up heroin!! That is just plain stupidity and irresponsibility! Also the fact that she makes Betsy come over to care for her animals with her newly born baby. It's all selfish and fucked up of her. Plus her staying with Jonny at all, when he is a threat to her animals, and there being EVIDENCE for that.
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Soooo looks like all is well with Taylor and Jonny. Also I don’t believe for a second that he does anything to care for those animals
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stfu maddie you STILL follow jonny on twitter. and you STILL don't even follow bree even after she stood up for you
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I like how she addresses like 3 pets (not including the mantis, honestly they live short lives) but not the others. There's 9 pets total on that poster. NINE. Not ONE lived it's full life or lived to the absolute minimum (Gus and Kovu).
Fading kitten syndrome is a thing, but quite frankly Taylor you've never owned a cat, never owned kittens, never fostered cats or kittens, never cared for newborn kittens before and yet you expect us to believe it wasn't your doing? It still aggravates me how she can so easily point it to fading kitten syndrome when she's so inexperienced with cats. The kitten died because you decided to keep it instead of taking it to a shelter/foster where it could have been put with a queen for nursing. Or at the very least receive DAILY check-ups and care from qualified vet nurses. Instead of being left in a bathroom with a fucking hot water bottle. Her fucking excuses after excuses, how she gets away with this shit infuriates me.
I didn't include the two preying mantis because they don't live very long, I don't think her care is a prime example for insects or anything but felt it nitpicky.
She has an excuse for everything and can't admit that maybe, just MAYBE her care isn't up to par and that she needs to improve on it.
No one is saying she isn't an awful person, Anon.
She may be a terrible brat, but nobody deserves to be stuck in an abusive relationship.
Why the hell is it legal for people like this woman to reproduce? Every time I see a post of hers I could just slap her in the face, this woman is one of the dumbest things I've ever seen. There's really nobody at home inside her head… What a sad thing to have to call this person your mother.
In case you're lurking you horrible piece of meat: you do not appear smart on twitter. Your posts sound like a crazy 13 year old wrote them, not a fucking adult that has 2 kids. Life sucks sometimes and situations like Taylor's are shit but denying it all and putting it on da haturz who lie so much omg just ridicules your entire family. If I were Taylor I'd kick you the hell out of my life.
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I love how she always has to say health instead of sobriety
its not really whiteknighting, no one deserves jonny
her content got progressively worse after she started dating him and it started to really affect her animals, plus when she moved into her own place she started hoarding super bad.
i dont know if any other anons agree, but id rather hope she gets her shit pulled together for her 50 animals, and even for herself. someone whos gone from a healthy adult with a career to a druggie that wears and records videos in lingerie for her addict boyfriend is terribly sad, and as shitty as she was/is, i dont really think she deserves this fate.
yah shes a shit person, but he pulled her down to new levels of low. she could have been better.
Uh, I'm sorry…she wants to buy a house? Right now? In the midst of getting sober, trying to get out of an abusive relationship, caring for 50 some odd animals, and being in debt with the IRS?
She's not creating any content, those checks from old videos aren't going to last forever, sweetie.
What does her health have to do with moving out of her apartment? How is her health not keeping her from traveling to stay with a friend?
Also her hair actually looks so cute like that with the dark brown and bangs lol.
I don't believe that "all is well" between them. I think Jonny is just taking this opportunity of being away from her to cheat & find a new gullible rich girl to leech off of. Maybe he senses that she's going to break it off with him at some point and is grooming his next target.
Also it's pathetic to think he literally just sits at home all day playing video games and lurking here. He and Taylor both lurk here so much it's so obvious. Yet they love to flex that their lives are so great. Yikes, not goals…
she can afford inpatient, she doesn't want it>>635567
they're not away from each other. it's all been talk so far.
>>635171> they are flat out calling for hate groups to rise up.
Is this… is this our time, farmers? To rise up?
What a sperg. The only people I know who talk like Jenn are meth and coke heads. I wouldn't be surprised if the apple didn't fall far from the tree.
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Who is @tay.all? She says she will be visiting Taylor.https://www.instagram.com/tay.all/
Ex model. She did heroin for a while. She’s fucking garbage / wAs “trans” last year and now is.. not? Transtrender.
None of these people are good.
Don't know much about Taylor A. I know she popped up briefly in one of Dasha's threads, so she's not just some rando on IG. Seems likely that she and TND are actually meeting up. >>628693
^Brief mention in Dasha thread. That's all I know.
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Lmao I totally forgot about this lie. She lies about the most ridiculous shit it blows my mind
cyrs ex gf???
oh my lord is this a cow crossover episode
anyone in that guys life is a fucking mess aside from mina, i wonder if taylor will be around dasha at all. thatd get ugly real fucking quickly
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Yeah she's definitely "allowed" to leave. They have CleanSlate clinics all over the country I'm pretty sure.. And there are definitely other suboxone/vivitrol clinics in LA if there isn't a CleanSlate. But I don't blame her for not wanting to detox at some partydude acquaintances house.. I really dont.
She should just go to inpatient detox and get it done with. It's not even bad and regular detoxes are only like 1-2 weeks long. It'd prob be good for her to take a break from social media too (no cell phones usually, but they're prob allowed at more upscale detoxes)
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Umm what? I can't find it on his Twitter though so I don't know if he's deleted that or what.
I don't disagree with you, but she's renting that apartment with that # of animals. I'm sure she could find someone who would let her.
Or she's buying, which would be really stupid of her when she's not made a video (aka her income) for months now.
I also don't know how she'd be able to get a mortgage if she was still really in debt to the IRS? I'm not from the States so I don't know how it works there.
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Lmao what a fucking idiot. “Stop assuming shit” bitch you just assumed she was coming to stay with you. Now Taylor has publicly said she’s not going. Sounds to me like Elijah wanted to get her away from Jonny and she was once again emotionally abused behind the scenes into staying with him. Wow such ~goals~!
Also, if she’s going to see a doctor or therapist or whatever, it’s probably not with Jonny right? Wouldn’t they want to have solo counseling as well as joint if the couple wanted to? Just curious because I really think people pity Taylor way more than she deserves, she has been given so much advice on how to get Jonny out safely and still refuses to. He is her enabler and she is his.
Taylor grew up in a nice house, with no poverty to worry about. I get vibes that her mom maybe made her think she has some sort of illness that she doesn’t (I don’t think she has EDS personally) and I think she’s fine to eat gluten. I think her mom might be a munchy by proxy and since tanner was actually disabled and needed special attention I feel like she pushed that anxiety onto Taylor too or Taylor as a kid realized that being sick = attention and played it up her whole life and esp to get out of school.
I don’t think her homelife was bad and she can’t use that excuse. She’s not some poor runaway.
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Interesting and believable theory for sure, i just have a hard time wrapping my head around how Taylor went as far as to using heroin. A lot of other drugs are glamorized and played up like they're not that bad (coke for example) so it doesn't surprise me as much
to think of her getting hooked on it when she started going to LA youtuber parties. I don't doubt that if Jonny hadn't come into her life, she would've found something else to be equally addicted to at the first opportunity.
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They actually do provide some type of counseling. Medication assisted treatment centers kind of have to.. they can't just give these types of medications without taking the time to check on a client's mental state or how their addiction or recovery is progressing. Methadone clinics require it too.. individual and/or group sessions. Though it isn't intensive and they say they do referrals for anyone needing further counseling.
I hate these fucking people who think they're so special
and ///damaged/// because they're druggies and because of that it's apparently not allowed to say anything negative about them because it's not 'supportive to their recovery uwu'. You're still people, and we're allowed to criticise you as much now as we did before you were junkies. You aren't immune from criticism because you're so /dark and damaged/.
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it's a pair of sunglasses mate
Agreed. Let's not forget this cunt is going to ride the "it's a disease" train for as long as possible. She compared being addicted to drugs to DEMENTIA.
You can get sober if you put in the effort, but dementia is permanent and it still pisses me off as someone who has family with dementia that she said that shit. She's saying it's a disease so she loses all responsibility for her own actions - she CHOSE to shoot up the first time. It's always a choice from the beginning. Yes, you do develop a dependency on it but in this day and age if you don't know how dangerous heroin can be, you're fucking stupid.
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I can’t comment on her post but they’re are already some comments? Do you have to follow her or something?
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The question was 'Do you still have Violet?"
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and she's expecting us to treat this as a disease. no, it's not disease, it's consequence of her lifestyle choices.
also she sets very bad example for her audience - drugs are okay and if you get addicted to them it's not your fault and you deserve pity.
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Hate everyone calling it a disease and illness. Was reading that they only called it that so the public wouldn’t see addicts as lesser than them.
Here’s a quote “Addiction has very little in common with diseases. It is a group of behaviors, not an illness on its own. It cannot be explained by any disease process. Perhaps worst of all, calling addiction a "disease" interferes with exploring or accepting new understandings of the nature of addiction.” psychology 101. That bitch stuck the needle in her arm.
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Looks like Taylor just bought some new followers
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Why does she insist on shoving her two males together every time she has them out? That's stressful for them.
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Looks like there’s trouble in pArAdiSe.
Probably posting this fake deep sad shit to get Taylor back on his side.
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Elijah is dumb af. I really used to enjoy his content when he worked with Christine Sydelko but now he just comes across as an asshole.
I honestly hope Taylor doesn’t go to stay with him. As far as I know he still does drugs of some type (weed at the very least) and a recovering addict doesn’t need to be around any substances while trying to get sober, including alcohol.
He’s using it so he can jack himself off on the praise he gets from being a white knight. It’s so he can stroke his huge ego.
If he truly cared about Taylor he wouldn’t have tweeted it publicly as it potentially put her in danger since Jonny is an abusive POS.
You don’t need to post every picture if there’s nothing interesting in it.
And that font is terrible
yes, i remember her saying one of her geckos dropped tail on it's own
at night. also she keeps them together? today i watched solid gold video about these geckos and she was very protective over his tail and she said geckos shouldn't be housed together beacuse it increases risk of dropping tail.
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I just searched Taylor's name on Twitter and this was the first thing that came up. Is this not the most ridiculous things you've ever read? Saying despite everything she has done we should all feel bad now because shes an addict!? Do people really think this way!?
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It just keeps getting better.
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Bragging about leaving the house and driving an hour and a half, Jonny? For a lot of people, that’s a daily commute.
Why their at-home rehab isn’t going to work: they don’t have anything to do all day. Flexing on social media about such a short trip shows how housebound they are.
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But yeah, she went to the expo
Oh my god, she’s only 21, right?
Drugs have aged her by a decade in such a short amount of time. Yikes.
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holy shit lol looks like she’s wearing a plastic mask
Just a reminder of better days
She just looks tired, too thin, and prob dehydrated to me.
What's the red stuff on her hand???
At least she has Doc Martens on.. almost redeems the tacky bodyshirt thing
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(from feb 2017) Taylor has always been pretty thin so her weight isn't as shocking to me as her face. She hasn't even been using that long and it's so bloated and aged
Damn, imagine being a heroin addict and your addict boyfriend just got fired from his band and ACS is still sending you letters you don't want to answer and the tax debt letters keep coming and you have 50-ish animals that you probably misrepresented the number of to your apartment complex managers and then you get evicted? Hell of a year so far.>>635936
She looks shockingly haggard close up. Not in a nitpicking way, in a drugs way.
She explains her schooling in this video.
I'VE BEEN SICK ALL MY LIFE? (Why I Post Inconsistently)
Taylor Nicole Dean
Published on Jul 26, 2017
get to know me and my story about my illnesses and various medical problems i've faced over the years….the short version. No matter what you're personally struggling with, rather it's mentally, physically, or both; please never doubt that you are loved and worth the fight. Everybody has a unique story and unique challenges they're faced with and no mental or physical struggles make you less of a person than everyone else. For those who have illnesses similar or the same as ehlers danlos syndrome, complex regional pain syndrome, chronic depression, etc: your pain is not in your head, you're not crazy, your feelings are valid, and it can get better. There's always going to be bad days every once in awhile but the good thing is they are eventually followed by amazing days. Don't let the bad outweigh the good, try your best to always stay positive and find something you're passionate about in life to enjoy. I apologize for not getting further in detail in this video about my medical issues and how i live with them, I just wanted to get this summary up and posted.
medical ailments mentioned:
-ehlers danlos syndrome
-complex regional pain syndrome
-clinical depression and anxiety disorder
It all has to go through the courts. You can't just ask the police to remove someone because you served them a notice of eviction. In Texas you serve the tenant an order to quit, meaning they have three days to get in compliance with the lease or the landlord is free to file in court. Then there's a hearing. The tenant has five days to appeal. If they lose/don't appeal, they have to get off the property. If they don't, the landlord can get a writ of possession. Once they get that, the police are able to go remove them.
Renters aren't guaranteed thirty days or whatever to move out if they're being evicted. They can get as little as a week to get out if the judge isn't feeling particularly sympathetic. But the entire process from hearing to actual eviction can take a few months if the tenant fights it. I doubt these two would bother, though. Everyone and their mother knows where they live and it's not like they're going to rehome animals or stop using drugs. People'll just report them to the landlords until the complex is sick of them. I assume they've already been reported since landlords don't bother evicting people who follow the rules.
This. I said it in (I think) the last thread. I truly believe she's on subs. And yes, you can still use while on subs. I hope she is doing a rapid taper, if anything. It's a bitch to get off of subs too.. And it is a longer detox than heroin.
You're absolutely right that it requires a lot of self work to get and stay off. And that jonny needs a long term inpatient.. she isn't gonna be able to stay clean with him around, period.>>636181
I actually think that clinics work better for longer term addicts and that people who haven't been using long or who haven't tried many times to quit shouldn't really needs clinics.. detox should suffice. The more you try to quit the worse it gets. But either way, they're not ideal, and people usually continue to use when they're starting clinics.. some just keep using while they're on them.
I think it depends on your dose for whether or not you can get high. Higher sub dose, less able you will be to get high, and vice-versa.
I guess they give you some subs to take home while on the clinic, since you need to take them daily and they only require you to go to the clinic twice a week. It would be easy to skip a day or to cut your sub dose down to get high too.
Sub clinics are really probably the first choice for addicts who aren't
serious about getting clean… it makes getting high still an option, and it greatly extends the time period of someone actually fully getting clean.
An inpatient detox would be so much quicker to get it over with than a sub clinic… I can't imagine why Taylor chose a sub clinic versus detoxing for any other reason than she isn't really ready to get clean.. or jonny is giving her the wrong info.
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this is a myth and I’m not able to explain why but you actually are able to shoot suboxone without getting deathly sick from the naloxone. you just don’t get high from doing it, people sometimes shoot it up to use a lower dose of suboxone or to get immediate effects. you cant really get high from subs unless you’re very new to opiates
tbh it’s clear that she’s only on suboxone so she can do heroin without feeling sick in between using. she really hasn’t been using for a long time at all or anything, I doubt she’s ever tried to recover any other way.
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I really don't think Taylor will get/stay sober unless she does inpatient AND leaves Jonny
I wonder if this is in reference to jonny.. saying she realizes she needs to want to leave him and does.. but saying it in a way so that he won't know?
Or it could just be about drug use.
Either way.. very applicable to her and very very true. She needs to really want
to get clean to be able to do so, and she needs to really want
to leave jonny to be able to do so.
tinfoiling, but maybe we shouldn't be going 'Does this mean she's finally leaving Jonny???', even if she seems to be hinting at it sometimes.
We already KNOW that Jonny reads here & I wouldn't be surprised if we've inadvertently tipped him off on one of her attempts to escape.
Just a thought…
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Why would you have an outlet strip just dangling like that? Maybe nitpicky, but that just seems like a fire hazard
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I wouldn't put it past Taylor to be uploading old photos of her animals. I feel like I've seen these photos before
so basically she's clueless about everything especially taxes.>>636169
I wonder if she still takes these medicine because if she's mixing these with her drugs then poor liver. she might end up like Jonny in 10 years.
Like what another anon said, I dont actually believe she has all these illness. I think her mother just put her in a bubble growing up and telling her not to go out with friends because she's sick. Reminds me of that movie where the girl grew up staying at home all her life because her mom told her she's allergic to everything outside but it turns out her mom was just controlling.
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As everybody has said, getting clean is hard enough. Getting clean when your partner also uses… is 10x harder.
You both have to be 100% ready to get clean. Jonny has literally let addiction get in between many jobs, his ex girlfriends, and now.. this.
He knew what he was doing by using with Taylor. As brainless as he might be, he is aware of how addictive h can be. He still made the decision to use with her. While we will never know (?) whose idea it was, I think it’s fair to say it was his.
Now this has resulted in Taylor’s entire career being pretty much down the drain, and his too. AND NOW THEY ARE FACING EVICTION.
If Taylor knew what was good for her, she’d leave. She would leave him, and go into inpatient.
And until she does that, I will not be convinced she’s ready to get clean. Jonny won’t get clean. He will most likely die from his addiction. He’s already suffering from liver failure, and that alone should’ve been a motivating factor to get clean.
I also want to reiterate that the pets are suffering at the hands of this. We all know this. Nothing has been enough of a wake up call for either of them.
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>>Getting clean when your partner also uses… is 10x harder.
Her fans think otherwise.
They're cheering her & Jonny on for "Getting clean together! <3"
Taylor is always trying to 'prove' herself. She probably saw/heard about how it's nearly impossible for using couples to get clean together & thought "Challenge Accepted!"
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I agree.. she needs to leave him if she wants to redeem her career and improve her mental health
She is clearly scared of facing more backlash when he inevitably talks shit about her animal care when she leaves him.
But Taylor.. people won't really believe him. And even if they do, they know he will also make shit up. You can absolutely redeem yourself if you leave him, go to inpatient, get clean, and improve your animal care and show it on a consistent basis.
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That's right, make the first-time mom do all the dirty work!
Looks like poor Betsy's already got 3 kids
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Couldn’t go on tour because he needed to focus on his health but is already looking to work? Wonder what the band thinks of him ditching them for Taylor but trying to make music so soon after
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Before a couple of nonnys start crying because this doesnt show how ugly taytay looks she deleted this post off of insta
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Anon, why do you think that font looks nice on your phone?
Hopefully she decides to rehome more of her animals because of how difficult it is to find a place to live that accepts the number she has
It's possible if Jonny lurks, but then again if Taylor really wanted to get out maybe she could just not fucking post every single thought that goes through her head so no one can speculate and she can leave safely. >>636336
nta but isn't that one of the fonts that's supposed to make it easier for dyslexics to read? Otherwise yeah it's super annoying.
I feel like Taylor probably has EDS for real, to some degree. It's called a "rare" disease but having non-benign hypermobility problems is actually pretty common, and you can see her joints bending backwards in some of her videos so she's definitely hypermobile.
But I also agree her or her mom exaggerated it/played it up. She definitely plays it up now- no one has a syndrome that flares when they have meetups but not when they walk around Disney or every reptile con they can find, that's just not how it works.
Font makes it easy on me to read. Invest in your eyes and get some glasses nonny.
Again these sc show her animals and updates on them. Stop your bitchin cause its not about how ugly taytay is or waaaah more drugs done by her. All your spectulation is shit and not actual milk unlike these. Dont like it? Fuck your feelings and get over your insecurities to see how ugly taytay is. Posting pics comparing her to barbie arent milk nonny
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I really hate the font as well. Not trying to be rude or ungrateful. I’d really appreciate you considering using a regular font to post the screenshots or letting someone else post them. Please. Again, no disrespect.
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He's not looking for work, he's offering work, ie. hiring a guitar player.>>636306
Literally airing her dirty laundry, revealing that she is unable to take care of herself let alone her animals.
But they literally don’t. A good majority are milkless bullshit.
We don’t need 5 screenshots of the same snake. We don’t need to see every single Instagram story Taylor has. If you’re so fucking invested in her stories, go follow her. We are here to discuss the shit she does, her pet care, drug use, etc. not a ss of her response to literally every comment and Instagram story. Are you autist? Ffs
This is lolcow, you aren't going to get anywhere with trying to police what people post and/or discuss about.
Comments about fonts and infighting posts are irrelevant and actually "clog up the feed".
That aside, are there any other snakes that we haven't seen lately? Was it ever confirmed that she acquired Valentino?
Gucci & Prada?
I see them being brought up a lot here, yet I haven't seen them on her insta yet
You’re not a mod, stop bitching and move on with your life jfc. I’m glad all of her SM content gets posted on this thread because then I don’t have to look that shit up myself. >>636375
Lmao he probably thought a music connection was going to work with him but his reputation is 100% ruined so no luck.
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Salem's enclosure is looking a lot better, and he actually looks to be fairly healthy. Obviously it's hard to get a good idea of body mass (obesity) from a video, but he doesn't appear to be too skinny or morbidly obese.
Honestly she really acted her worst on Twitter.
All that quote-tweeting…
If she's posting in on social media, it's public and it doesn't matter.
However we don't need a ton of wishful thinking cluttering up the place either.
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Here ya go. Doesn’t have to filter anyone commenting on her care anymore since only those who can are her blind followers.
Probably trying to remember her "adopt don't shop" motto, even though all her animals are either from pet shops or breeders. She doesn't have a single adopted animal with the exception of her dog who she doesn't even have anymore.
Buying from good breeders isn't a bad thing, but she wants the ass pats from "adopt don't shop" despite not doing it.
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normies get the fuck off my board reeeee
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Someone is going on omegle pretending to be Bree and having old guys send shit to her, I'm assuming it's one of Taylor's stans. How likely is it that other pettubers will come forward with how much Bree is getting harassed?
Bree comes forward with a story regarding what happened between Taylor and her? It wasn’t as extreme as everything else that came afterwards?
Apparently the only logical thing is to send stalkers her way…
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“omg heroin made me just like famous musicians uwu”
I mean, all clothing is a fire hazard regardless. This seems weirdly nitpicky, like I'm not saying they're tidy people and they do have shit piled all over their house, but it's not like they tore everything out of their closet just to pile up on the floor and leave it there>>636534
if she's such an inspiration why don't you go inpatient? or do you mean she was your inspiration to get hooked in the first place?
Yeah I’ve seen severa of her video and she always has an opinion and it’s usually blunt which is why many people watch her but suddenly this topic comes along and she says she’s not going to comment and I don’t get it. That’s the whole reason why people asked you to do the video, for your opinion.
I feel like a lot more could’ve been said. She brings up the google doc but then tells people to look a it themselves if they are that interested, I felt like it would’ve been important to use it to put it into perspective of just how many animals she’s cycled through. That’s why it was made in the first place. I feel like she kind of just dusted the situation as a whole
There's a real possibility that the croc skinks & frog weren't actually 'cooked alive' remember the texts Jessica recieved? They said that the Frog died from a poor diet, & the skinks died from dehydration.
The story about the electrical-accident was possibly made to look like they all died around the same time in a way that couldn't possibly
have been Taylor's fault (even though leaving/napping for 10+ hours without checking the enclosures doesn't make her look good either)
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Taylor finally posted the milk snakes
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So he's dead, because what's going to happen is she'll get another milksnake back from this breeder with the story of "oh he sold away Valentino/he died/it's not my fault" as the sob story to cover up.
Honestly this one isn't so far-fetched, but I can't believe anything that she says anymore. Too many lies, contradictions and rabbit hole stories.
“Instead of taking my bruised and vomiting snake to the vet I contacted the breeder so that any liability I had disappears and said breeder will now get all the blame”
I understand the need to contact a breeder if the animal you bought from them is sick but maybe fucking do that after you’ve taken said animal to the vet instead of sending it back to the breeder? If it didn’t die in her care she would’ve killed it shipping it back to the breeder.
Also if it’s a genetic issue, they next one she gets could just have the same problems but she wouldn’t know because she’s a dickhead.
I was about to mention this too
She posts Tofu all the time while he's posturing, why not post Prada in his/her enclosure? Why not post ALL her snakes in their enclosures?
>>"Anyways this'll probably be spun to be something else and someone will decide I ate him or something but ya…"
That's not very positive
of you, Taylor…
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Violet is posted in her stories, I think?
Who even has this many issues with breeders??
It's not hard. If she got him shipped look at reviews, if she got him at an expo it should be obvious that a snake is that sick?
And if it was shipped this is something that she should actually say where she got him so people can be aware of scams?
the breeder's fault.
regardless neither video presents that information. ready to glare specifically reads out the insta post where TND talks about how they got baked and then moves on quickly after. if they wanted to make it open ended like that it would be fine, but they have not.>>636620
with her ramble at the end of the video i think she largely feels like she cant comment because of her previous problems regarding cocaine addiction, but it was pretty lame view overall on the situation. maybe she was scared of pet tube.
just reminds me of a post some anon made a few threads ago calling her "ready to cash in" lol
you shouldn't be feeding a snake within a week of bringing it home. you should be giving it at LEAST a week or two to get acclimated to its new surroundings. no wonder it was regurgitating.
the bit about "someone is gonna spin this to make it seem like I'm lying, that I ate him or something ridiculous lolz" is just her covering her ass by making it sound like anyone who doesn't believe her (since she's been caught lying about this shit constantly) is making totally outlandish accusations. so when people do call her out on something that she actually did wrong, she'll scream "see!!! what did I tell you guise!!! they're making ridiculous claims!!!" even if it's a totally sensible conclusion to be reached based on past evidence.
she's dramatizing it in order to make any criticism sound like complete slander. makes me think she has done something wrong and will just point to her "calling it" to deny, deny, deny as always
oh but don't forget anon! the breeder assured
her Violet would only get more purple with age (unlike literally every other purple-tinted baby snake) so of course it's the breeder's fault, not Taylor's!!1!
the breeder is trying to get you to give them your money. of course they're going to tell you what you want to hear about what color the snake will be in a year or more. they don't care. they're trying to make a sale. dumbass actually believed it
Same thing with the monitor lizard.
"Don't take advice from pet-store employees uwu" Then suddenly "They told me it was a Black-throat and I trusted
From a reply to that IG comment, Taylor confirms Valentino was from an expo.. So yeah she probably should have noticed if he had an RI before
buying him. I might be crazy but I feel like RIs aren't incredibly hard to spot in person, especially for someone who is supposed to be a pet expert.
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She never said she wouldn't get yellow?
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Lots of Nemo and Ghost from both of them, no Star since Jan 15.
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She said in her instagram post here she would only get more purple
so on one hand, she gives a sick animal back to the breeder because she doesn't believe that she can take care of it, but she was confident enough to raise prenatal kittens despite never even owning a cat before?
That was Taylor herself talking about Star being overweight because she gobbled food down like it was her last meal. which wouldn't be a problem if tay fed her correct portions rather than pouring food in the bowl and fucking off to let the cats eat however much they want. She also said she was taking her to the vet once a month for weigh-ins, which is ridiculous overkill. I don't exactly believe she was telling the truth about it, but poor Star regardless. what a shitty life to be forced into.
also come to think of it, the boy cats cuddle on the bed with them while they're getting high, but star was nowhere to be seen. probably hiding somewhere, or gone as other anons speculate.
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Here's another video about TND
They will all dilute the drama for views, just watch. Some of these girls look up to Taylor and shouldn't cover it in the first place.>>636647
Every time I see this pics I remember that insta story where's she's roughly rearranging the snake in her hand (several threads back).
You don't need to download Youtube videos to post them. Post Youtube video links in the field denoted "Youtube".
All day I thought everyone was referring to a transient video on another platform because none of you posted it.>>636767
What does the person being logged out have to do with anything?
She last posted Star Jan 15, and she's been posting the boys all the time. Jan 15 was 20 days ago.
If she posted one animal a day since, she wouldn't be through them all (almost), but she posts the cats frequently on her stories so why not Star?
A cat (or dog) overeating is a pretty simple thing to resolve, just feed them in different rooms/areas. That way you'll know when they're done eating so you can cover the bowls or put the food away.
All you have to do is keep an eye on them… oh, that's probably the problem here.
is from April 2018.>>636679
is from today.
>reading for comprehension
Oh wow, because three days ago she commented >>635710
on Insta in response to being asked about Violet yet Valentino was already gone - hmmm.
Taylor lies, we know, but it's getting to the point of stating the total opposite.
'health was in decline' = 'i was shooting heroin'
for some reason her phrasing of it triggers
the fuck out of me, just cop to being a junkie taylor, ffs.
There is no need to post it anon, it's already been discussed upthread and isn't that relevant. It wasn't posted here for a reason - it is partially a defence of Taylor, and anyone can search the channel up on youtube. You'll only attract more accusations of selfposting/shilling anyway. I've been here long enough to see a lot
of RTG hype posts across different threads/cows.
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Here is is/was
And yes, he was apparently named after a popular vine video.
kek always the BREEDER spreading misinformation
i kinda wanna compile all the times she blames a breeder for her own stupidity/problems or all the times she does the "vet says they're perfect!!!1!1!" schtick. she even said "the vet says she's doing fine and we're doing nothing wrong" just hours before nemo's sister passed smh
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Here's another instance of Valentino
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Not sure if the hand marks were worth noting or not but just in case
my b I got confused since there were several pictures of her all in a row. These new pictures >>636825
kinda confirm she's still chunky though.>>636821
that's what I'm saying. Would love to hear this anon >>636766
explain why they're so sure it's not an injection site. I don't know much about shooting up but like that looks nothing like a normal cut to me.
Ok, I've been offline for a couple of days and am behind, but fuck . . . she's bragging about her snakes having healthy sheds?
Good for you Taylor, you haven't fucked up your snakes' care enough to affect their sheds. You so deserve some asspats for meeting the minimal standards of care. Let us know when your cats have a healthy bowel movement or two so you stans can praise you for taking the time out of your busy schedule of taking selfies in the clinic bathroom and playing video games with your boyfriend to feed them.
liar liar pants on fire
also>wont take care of a small snake>will take care of newborn kittens
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>I don't know much about shooting up
And I do know a good amount about IV sites from both medical and illicit IV drug experience. The anterior forearm towards the wrist is a no go zone in phlebotomy due to the proximity of nerves and arteries and tendons. For the purposes of self-injecting drugs it is painful and difficult to access compared to other sites and is a site of last resort.
That is a puncture wound but it is much larger than the gauge of a syringe needle, even if she had picked at the scab.
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It's a fucking fish, girl.
If she put as much effort into getting off heroin as she puts into cheese, she would have been sober for a month
I am also in the very suspicious camp when it comes to the whereabouts of Star. There have been lots of photos of the other two cats but nothing of Star in recent weeks. Weird to go from multiple pictures of Star being very cute to absolutely nothing.
At least we know that Taylor checks this thread obsessively, so I’m sure she’ll post something about Star soon enough if she is still around. Or some made up story about having her re-homed. Either way, poor cat.
Part of me wants to believe the 'cuteness' of Star wore off, and she realised that she had a cat that she could not really look after on her hands.
She's good at not giving a shit about animals that can't really do much when left alone (her snakes won't destroy much if anything if she ignores them) but Star was urinating all over and probably damaging her belongings. It's fine when the animals can just be ignored with no consequences, but when she needs to put in a genuine effort to break habits before she can forget about her she probably gave up.
I have a feeling that she got rid of her when she started damaging her things because she's too lazy to put effort into a cat that quite frankly probably isn't ever going to adjust to a life indoors. I guess you can only hope that she was released because she really doesn't strike me as a cat that will do well indoors all things considered.
I'm surprised that nobody has done a video focusing exclusively on Jonny, the fact that theres evidence out there alluding to the fact that he coerced taylor into doing heroin, him also having forced drugs into another girl against her will, the rape, abuse, physical, mental and verbal, Taylors behaviour was questionable before Jonny but she took such a dramatic decline the moment Jonny entered her life and I dunno but I just think he's getting off so lightly, he just posted another 3 pairs of shoes he's brought, not only that he never comes to Taylors defence at all, even the post he made the other day came off cold and forced like taylor had to beg him to post it. He clearly does not give a shit about anyone but himself and unfortunately abusive people are the most controling and manipulative scumbags on the earth and while it's easy for people on the outside to just say "leave" it's never that easy, it is dangerous, it is hard because they don't just walk out and leave you alone, they will break in, they will stalk you, they will threaten to harm your animals, kids, you, family members, blackmail you, my abusive ex did all of these things, they threaten and manipulate you into letting them stay, controlling you with fear tactics, they threaten suicide an tell you its your fault too, and he will be gaslighting taylor no doubt, which means she is more than likely convinced that every time Jonny becomes abusive, its her fault. So she probably feels obligated to make it all better because that's what abusers do, they love the shit out of you better than anyone else ever could, and the moment you do anything (or they decide you've done something wrong even if you haven't) they will treat you like utter shit until you make it better. It's more than likely why she buys him toys, Jonny never speaks in her defence, he never stands up for her, never makes mushy posts about her, he's shown no support in her recovery or his own, he hasn't spoken about it, he prizes his games, shoes and toys more than he prizes the human being he claims he loves. There is no hope in hell for taylor as long as he is around and some people can disagree that's fine but I've been in her situation as far as abusive partner goes and he needs to leave, I just think it will be a nice example to girls and women and anyone in general, if a video is made focusing on him and to include the signs of abusive behaviour, how to leave and how to seek help. It's hard to seek help and outside opinion when they control what you post, who you talk to, when you can and can't leave the house, what you can and can not say to others. Sorry for the long post it just urks me so much that he's getting off so lightly in all of this when he's the main factor in Taylors dramatic decline, Taylors shitty choices also being a factor I'm not denying that but cmon wheres all these proclaimed feminists when it comes to women held in abusive relationships. She will not get better unless he is gone, again taylor is a shit head I'm not denying that but I firmly believe she could get better and do better without Jonny, she may not be perfect but she will be a lot better off without him. I know taylor was also warned about Jonny but I'm sure by that point he'd already dug his toxic claws into her and did the whole "my exes are just crazy an jealous cuz I'm famous an they hate that they can't have me so they lie". Abusers are extremely good at loving which is what makes them terrifying, you believe almost anything they say. I've reached out to several youtubers requesting a video focusing on Jonny and the dangers of abusive people and all that but haven't gotten any response, maybe I'm being way to dramatic about it but he just pisses me off so much an I hate how much he's getting away with while taylor cops majority of the shit. He lives with taylor and some animals are his, or he's purchased them for taylor, they are partly his responsibility as well!
Little improvement is better than no improvement at all, Jonny is making it worse and she does need to leave him, it's the first thing she needs to do. Her and her animals are in far more danger with him around, than without. Especially since he's threatened to hurt animals before. I personally don't have a YouTube account, camera or computer, let alone the technological skills needed to make something decent, which is why I think its important to reach out to other youtubers who can make an impact and shed awareness not just for taylor but for women in general. Taylor is a major shit head, yeah they enable each other, yeah she may have chosen to do the drugs, yeah her animal care still wasn't great beforehand, but it was better than what it is currently, and any progress is better than none which is why I stress Jonny is a big fuckin no no.
compile evidence and write up a blog post/twitter thread/etc then, theres really no point writing walls of text here. we all know he's a pos.>>636943
agreed, she doesn't do well with pets that require constant attention.
what do we think? how far between are these pictures taken, and when?
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Just a quick google search and I found this: at a max of 2 weeks. I'm sure someone's already brought this up, but I included the previous questions because she wasn't supposed to freeze the fish. (here's the link to the PDF I found https://www.dcpah.msu.edu/sections/necropsy/WEBCD.NEC.REF.001.pdf
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If she paid $600 for a super Mojave with not hets or other genes, she overpaid. They're worth $400 and under. I've seen them for $250. $600 is ridiculous, even for a year ago.
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I don't think it's been mentioned that Salems water dish is bone dry once again
She clearly just messed with the second picture's colors so the purple in Violet would pop more, anon, she didn't purposefully make the tiles white lol
You think it would be more likely that she took 2 extremely similar pictures months apart? What?
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Gallons is not the correct measurement to use when talking about reptile enclosures. This just makes her sound so…dumb?
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I'm beyond tired of reading crap like this like shes some poor innocent victim like she didnt have serious problems before she became an addict. And Jonny is absolutely trash but to pin this all on him is fucking stupid.
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She definitely is lurking
most people in reptile forums still use gallons, whether or not you think it's irrelevant. most people will understand gallons, most casual reptile owners use gallons.
this isn't even me defending tnd. just as a casual reptile owner i've mostly heard people use gallons as a measurement.
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He posted 3 pics of shoes, priorities lol
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nta but here's a screenshot from the vid
LMFAO She's such a lying, manipulative bitch! "I returned him to the breeder." Okay, and that'll help the snake HOW? Why not call a vet who can help, or a nearby snake expert? Why not just TALK to the breeder first, or even something like Snake Discovery, before "GTFO I send you back uwu?" I'm guessing she killed it, or it had an "accident" like the skinks+pacman frog and Gus.
Regurgitation is NORMAL after shipping, as is bruising and sneezing, JFC. RI is common with shipped animals for a little bit. Bruising will happen with improper shipping handling and packaging.
If the breeder ACTUALLY took him back, it's because he knows nothing is actually wrong with the poor snake. She's just a gross bitch tbh.
"Not give me a different splotched sinaloan" lmfao bitch just wants a different snake species/morph. Stupid cunt. Breeders who are attached to the hatchlings don't sell them in the first place.
"I felt so guilty" "I didn't want" I jus wanted" "this'll probably be spun"
Sooooo much manipulation. This is basic guilt tripping and gaslighting. She's not even good at hiding it.
Except Valentino wasn't even shipped to her in the first place. She got him at an expo. She saw him in person before she bought him, though I guess that doesn't mean much considering she also bought the GTP which died like the same day. >>636800
You can see in the background of the pic she's at the vendors stand. Don't think we'll ever know what happened to the poor snake, but her story seems so stupid anyways. Putting a sick animal through the stress of shipping because you don't feel like taking responsibility for the life you impulse bought still sucks no matter how she tries to spin it.
what ever did a video on jc a while back around the same time she made her video about tnd
no ones made a recent one about him, kinda feel like there doesn't need to be, a quick google search of him brings up all the awful things he's done I mean really if anyone sees all that shit and still supports him it says a lot about them
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Standard aquariums have known corresponding measurements. Emphasis on the word "standard".
Enclosures which are not aquariums are (and should be) described by measurements of L x W x H.
the only excuse for saying this is if your only experience with EDS is watching Taylor, and that's still not even an excuse because google exists- use it. Then tell the people who have had dozens of unavoidable surgeries because their joints are literally falling apart or their organs aren't stable or their brain is herniating out of their skulls that it's "not that bad."
Also you can have an EDS diagnosis and be functional until one day you're just not. Taylor currently seems pretty functional minus the whole heroin addiction and inability to not lie or take responsibility for half a thing in her life.
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Does anybody know if Taylor got any work done besides her lips? Or is it just makeup and photoshop? I saw a few pics that looked nothing like her???
Cameras also have this magical invention called "a flash."
She's stalling for time, or Mushu is finally dead. I'd be surprised if it is still alive at this point, as the rami on the poor thing were barely there.
Yeah, but using flash on cameras is a terrible way to take pictures in aquariums of any kind. You'd think someone with a "career" of keeping many animals in aquariums would just know that.
You're right it's all BS though, she's stalling for one reason or another. Axies are pretty hardy and I wouldn't be surprised if she is still alive, but the poor thing has been in terrible condition forever so she's probably not in good shape.>>637251
We don't know, I don't think, but I'm pretty sure it's all makeup and facetune. She knows how to control her lighting and angles in selfies and videos, but she looks like a completely different person in tagged photos.
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But you, ok?
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I might be reaching here or just seeing things. But normally with injection sites the skin around the site is bumpy, bruised, indented or scabbed. Sorry if this isn't allowed or if it's derailing. Delete if so
I’m not defending her or anything, just pointing out that it really does look like the glass front of the enclosure is masking the reflection off the water bowl, there’s a shadow in the water bowl where the water level is. At the right angle and with the glass enclosure in front of it, it can look like it’s non reflective, but there’s a clear shadow where the water is.
Like I said, not defending, just thought it worth it to point out. Let’s focus on real milk.
Can we stop now, it's embarrassing for the thread. When the time is right, someone with IV drug experience will point out if they see something for sure. Even then, we know she's an IV user so it's moot.
If you are ever wondering in future, injecting is done into veins and not just all over.
Carry on anon, don’t listen to anyone else policing the thread. I think having screen shots posted of bruises and possible injections sites is important in case one day she tries to deny she ever shot up. She may just try saying she only smoked it or try to minimize in some way.
having it documented is a good idea and if that one anon can post all the screen shots of insta stories well then you’re good.
Also for anons unfamiliar with drug use it’s interesting to see.
Carry on anon, don’t listen to anyone else policing the thread. I think having screen shots posted of bruises and possible injections sites is important in case one day she tries to deny she ever shot up. She may just try saying she only smoked it or try to minimize in some way.
Regardless, having it documented is a good idea and if that one anon can post all the screen shots of insta stories well then you’re good.
Also for anons unfamiliar with drug use it’s interesting to see.
She was outed as injecting by Jonny's bandmate. Plus there are many images. Some anons are not even sure how injecting is done and think any bump on an elbow or finger can be an injection site, when they cannot. To repeat, main veins are used, heroin is not an intramuscular drug. We look extremely foolish with some of these recent posts. Pick the real ones is what I'm saying, and if you don't know how it works, wait for those of use who do.
We are not here running a service for her rabid fans nor to convert them.
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Well Ella is good that just leaves Sarabi, bindi and Mushu
Obviously you didn't read the entire comment.>>637270
If you are going to post screenshots as documentation, please include the provenance and date.
>Delete if so
That's not how this site works.>>637372
Agreed. Anons ITT cede to others with more knowledge about animal care, but when it comes to identifying injection marks suddenly everyone is an expert because they saw Requiem for a Dream.
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She looks like an entirely different person, she’s definitely had work done
And then its always ugly ass overpriced shoes that would make him only look like even more of a repulsive manlet than he already does.
Kind of off topic, but I dreamed of Taylor OD'ing and now I get very worried, because I can see it happening, if she gets away from Heroin for real but the relapses with Jonny. Because often times that's when people shoot up too much, no longer used to the substance, causing them to overdose. And I really don'tt trust for Taylor to be able to stay sober (if she ever gets there) as long as she is with Jonny. I worry not only for Taylor but also, what happens to all those animals if something happens to her?
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Taylors dietary advice is such trash, she seriously needs to stop giving people advice. She knows literally nothing about how to feed her pets. She talks about crickets being healthy but doesn't even mention gutloading and dusting them. It's no wonder Asteroid died of malnurishment.
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Agreed. Jonny's appearance and life is a mirror to Taylor, how that doesn't scare her out of the relationship is beyond me. Just a year of drug use has aged her a decade and destroyed her rep. Here's a healthy Taylor in a healthy relationship from 2015.
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This is a good comparison that her stans needs to see
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I never owned an axolotl before nor will i in the future but i’m not stupid enough to believe hers is healthy as he can be. He has strange white spots and doesn’t have that healthy glow that animals radiate when they’re being cared for correctly. Attached a photo of an “adult” axolotl that i googled that has a bit of the same colorization. Not hard to tell the difference with a simple google search
I never said I believed Mushu to be healthy, you can clearly tell she's not.
I just also know people on this site tend to say things about animals they know nothing about and over-exaggerate. One thing people always point out is her gills, excuse me for asking a simple question.
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Yikes. Between jen and colin
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Its keeps going
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"Tanner said this"
Yeah, and everyone stood up and clapped, and that kid's name was Albert Einstein. Stop fucking hiding behind your kid as a manipulation tool.>>637448
Mushu (is it a male or female? Don't know, I've seen both used to call it) has a few issues. We know it was sick, hence Taylor burning it with iodine; this is possibly the cause for the white blotches/spots on its face and body. If it's iodine burns, she basically burned the pigment cells in those spots to death.
The rami ("gill stalks") and the fimbriae (the little "feathers") are severely damaged. There's fewer fimbriae, they're way too short, and you can see damaged tissue on them.
It's definitely not fed enough, or if it is, it has something wrong with its digestive system, as like a previous user said, that poor thing is way too skinny to be health.
The tank also lacks any enrichment and embellishment for it. Not using sand is fine and many owners choose to not use it, and using plastic stuff is fine, but the tank is basically barren. Every animal, even things like spiders, need some degree of enrichment in their tanks, like plants, hides, or even just plastic statues and rocks to at least give it something to use.
I honestly don't see Mushu living through 2019. I feel like that poor thing is going to die a slow, painful death. I hate that she does this to it. They're a beautiful and critically endangered species, and she basically neglects hers to the point of torture.
Not much to add except Mushu is a GIRL. everyone calls her a boy and it's like nah. She may be named after a boy character but she is female.
Taylor said she was going to be upgrading her tank "soon" and that was probably at least a month ago now. That poor girl
has been suffering for years now, hopefully she'll get a better enclosure before she dies. I'm amazed she's held on this long.
Embarrassed? Pretty sure the only one getting blown out by photos of her blown out veins is Taylor herself.
Wonder when the first obvious mark showed up on her insta. Lots of time to waste, might as well find it. I also wonder if she went straight to shooting or if she smoked first. Texas gets bth, yeah? I keep scanning for aluminum foil left out in her old posts.>>637378
More like there's a heroin epidemic in the US right now and fucktons are or have junkie friends or relatives, sad to say. Spotting tracks is not rocket science.
Re: EDS, the only thing that seems scary about having it is aortic dissection, apparently it feels like your heart is tearing apart, which it sort of is, and then you die. Think it's a rare complication, though.
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>>Australia-Trip February 2019!!!
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A couple months ago.
What a shame. Seemed like she was super excited about it too.
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Think about it Taylor, you could've also gone to Australia Zoo in Queensland while there, could've met your hero's amazing family in person…
>>637477>They're a beautiful and critically endangered species, and she basically neglects hers to the point of torture.
Lmao, not captive ones. Captive axolotls range in the hundreds of thousands. The only reason they're endangered is because dipshits in Mexico developed over the only two lakes wild axolotls naturally occurred in.
I agree about the neglect, though. Fucking gross that she can just get high and watch her animals suffer like that.
That you call them track marks when anons are looking for injection marks demonstrates exactly what I mean. A whole lot of sperging for a bruise on the outside
of an elbow, that can neither be a track mark or an injection site.>>637446
If she had her way she'd be an insta-famous clout chaser following Post Malone on tour. Safe to say that internet fame is always going to be on her agenda.
being this pedantic about a track mark vs. a fresh spike, hot spot, register or one of the thousands of other regional slang terms you call an 'injection site'
ain't no one looking at her bony ass elbows, sis>>637606
i think colin is probably a prick irl but i'm more than happy to see him continue to spill tea all over them and to shade the fuck out of mama dean who is a fat fuck & human garbage that refuses to take responsibility for or help her daughter in any way
guess we know where taylor got it from
Agreed. I don't like that Colin supports Jonny, being the rapist he is. However, I am all for him not taking any shit from Taylor or her family. I am fully supportive of him spilling the beans on all of the shit Taylor has done that he knows.
I'm so sick of her stans now just pulling the typical "she has addiction issues stop hAtInG on her!!" when in reality she is given constructive criticism. It's obvious she's not ready to "get better" like she claims. Until she and Jonny break up, this whole sobriety thing isn't going to work for them. They enable each other and that's very clear. To be honest I almost think Jonny wasn't even the one who tried to hook her to heroin, I think she wanted to do it with him of her own volition. She wanted this "rockstar lifestyle" but I don't think she quite anticipated what the drugs would do to her body/mind/career.
wasn't there some speculation that taylor was already familiar with opiates due to her EDS? coke isn't what i would consider a 'soft' drug either so she was obvs. comfy with harder shit from the get.
yep, like you say colin is a mixed bag, i can't really be one hundred percent for him as he knows all about jonny's past with women and apparently wasn't too concerned, but in this situation he's the one person responsible for confirming many people's suspicions about their drug use and in that regard he's come correct
kind of living for jen's crazy posts, she's such a dirtbag of a mother, to be honest i tinfoil that she made her kids sick because good old jen is a munchie or an mbp herself.
eh he's just someone with a low bar, i.e heroin use that fucks up the band is a step too far for him. he puts jonny on a bit of a pedestal too. but he's spilled the milk at any rate.>>637622
I think she thrives off the attention or maybe needs to have sick kids for her world to make sense, but she didn't make her son sick, he was born that way.
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I wouldn't completely trust him either. This was his response to being asked about the assaults
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Don’t think this was posted but these were on Jens “I’m totally not hiding behind my son” tweet and I thought they were somewhat interesting
Shocker, the band that revolved around a rapist still defends him raping and abusing multiple women. They're only turning on him because he fucked up their tour with his heroin addiction. They can fuck off too for defending him.
Taylor is shit, but we know Jonny's been an addict looong before he got with her, and was not "clean" before her.
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So I was looking at pictures of this snake bc he's so cute and I noticed in this image she has something wrong with her inner elbow. I'm not familiar with injections but…… can someone clarify? The date is at the bottom
I don't know much about injecting heroin either but I'm pretty sure people don't just inject all over their arms you inject into your veins >>637677
Yeah looks like it could be an eczema outbreak (I have occasional outbreaks of eczema and have gotten it in the same spot and it looks similar) or hives maybe an allergic reaction to smth
Her tattoo is towards the final stages of healing so the rash is probably a reaction to whatever she used for aftercare, especially if it has a petroleum base or if she washed the area too frequently. A reaction to the dressing (adhesive, tegaderm) would cause blisters and redness beneath it and would have cleared by then. And reactions to cling wrap are not a thing; it is used in wrap treatments for some skin conditions.>>637707
You "go fishing" and skin pop if you want to waste your heroin and develop an abscess.
Looking forward to someone posting the pic of her tattoo of Egg surrounded by bruises and speculating she shot up using the tattoo needles.
The worst symptoms come from vascular EDS.. The majority of people who have EDS live their entire lives, life expectancy not affected, and have issues with joints, pain, hypermobility, easy scarring.. I 100 percent feel that vascular EDS is awful. Classic, classic like, hypermobile? It's honestly not the worst thing ever. Yeah, my joints are fucked and randomly pop out sometimes. Yeah, I go through a fair amount of pain. It could be worse. Again, I'm not speaking for every case and every type.
In the video >>636169
she states that she has type 3.https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/gtr/conditions/C0268337/
Hypermobile Ehlers-Danlos syndrome (hEDS) is generally considered the least severe type of EDS, although significant complications, primarily musculoskeletal, can and do occur. The skin is often soft and may be mildly hyperextensible. Subluxations and dislocations are common; they may occur spontaneously or with minimal trauma and can be acutely painful. Degenerative joint disease is common. Chronic pain, distinct from that associated with acute dislocations, is a serious complication of the condition and can be both physically and psychologically disabling. Easy bruising, functional bowel disorders, and cardiovascular autonomic dysfunction are common. Aortic root dilation, when present, is typically of a mild degree with no increased risk of dissection in the absence of significant dilation. Psychological dysfunction, psychosocial impairment, and emotional problems are common.
Why do all these people have such skewed perceptions of what sobriety means???
Taylor is "thriving" and "doing sooooo much better" within days of "getting clean", Jonny thinks "being sober" means not using for an hour, and now Colin is claiming Johnny was "better than ever, on the right path, so sober he's not even drinking" for the mere two weeks he was in between girlfriends.
Meanwhile they're all still struggling to get past step one of any program kek. Can't even fully admit to their problems without excuses. Such good role models!!!
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>>637779>This is not about my daughter.>This is about my daughter.
The denial shown by Jen really is similar to the type of denial Taylor exhibits.. e.g. when she got called out by Colin on Twitter, her responsing colin's accusations on her drug use with questions at the end of each statement and trying to skirt around it… "but your team reached out to me and said to not talk about it on twitter??? I don't get why you're doing this?? I'm not denying it???"… deletes twitter
When shit hits the fan, they both have that strange type of denial.. trying to talk about anything other than the actual important issue at hand, while not making much sense and simultaneously trying (and failing) to portray that they have it together.
Idk.. I'm not talking shit about someone's mom, but it worries me that she is so concerned with the YouTube community talking about it.. it's like she really just doesn't understand how big of a deal heroin addiction is. She could be doing a million and one other things to figure out how to help taylor, but she's seemingly constantly on Twitter trying to be snarky towards anyone who has talked about the situation… it's like she feels personally attacked by people showing concern and treating it like the big deal that it is. Idk.. it just doesn't feel right, at all.
It's called deflection
, a behavior frequently associated with narcissism.
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There are literally a million better things Jen could tweet in this time. actual support
for her own daughter for example. Instead she reposts google definitions, snarky indirects, and bible verses lol. Seems like Jen cares a lot more about what people think
of her and how she raised Taylor rather than the actual danger Taylor is in like she used to.
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1. I never blamed Taylor for Jonnys drug use or relapse. I was clear about that in a separate tweet. I was referring to Jonny not being baby sat by either me, my parents or someone in my band, and when moving in with Taylor he finally had the freedom to be able to use without any consequences.
2. I put Jonny on a pedestal?? Can you even read???? If anything the opposite has been said and done, especially behind closed doors and in private ( how it should be)
3. I was very clear about why I’m not speaking on rape and abuse allegations about Jonny. I’m always going to refuse to speak about things I DONT KNOW ABOUT because doing that does nothing for his exes or him. I wasn’t there. I don’t know. They never spoke about it to me or to the public until after the relationship was over. And never once was I confronted about it. So once again I DONT KNOW!!! Do you just want me to make some shit up? Clearly I’m not trying to protect Jonny in this matter. What reason do I have to protect Jonny? Everything I’ve spoken on and have been public about is 100% truth and are actually things that I’ve witness and can speak on.
4. I have nothing to gain from any of this. I don’t want to be involved in any of this and the only time I’ve spoke out is when Taylor or her crazy family have tried to place blame on other people to protect themselves. They can lie to her fans till they are blue in the face ( sorry to all of her fans if that’s rude of me) but I don’t care, that’s her problem not mine. But if they have the audacity to mention me, my band or my GF when we’ve been nothing but a strong support system. I’m going to go in on them with straight facts 100% of the time. Notice there is never a legit response, always just confusion.
Please keep your negative hateful comments about me or my band to your self. I wish I was never sent this link. Some of you in here or so far off and some are spot on. Use your best judgments, don’t overthink, know the truth will always come out in situations like these. And know that until they both go to separate rehabs and focus on themselves ( separately) there is a huge danger. Me and my band are nice people, of any of you ACTUALLY GOT TO KNOW US or even met us in real life instead of just assuming things you can see that for yourself. Please keep me out of your drama, Jonny isn’t a part of my band anymore, I hope he gets better, I hope Taylor gets better. I always try my hardest to see the good in everyone even in the worst of times. Taylor is still very young and can turn this around. But until she gets serious help. Her path is dark, lonely , and depressing. Try not to be so hateful people. Especially to people you really don’t know. If you know someone who ACTUALLY knows me in real life. Ask them their opinion on me, or maybe meet me in real life and form your own. Thanks -Colin
No hard feelings Anon, but I don't really think you're actually Colin.
Literally ANYONE could say this shit.
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Here's the rest of your "♂️♂️♂️"(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
Use the tripcode you were given dude >>637892
, that way we know it's really you. We are very interested in what you have to say but use the code.
I don't know you or your band members, I mean kudos for sticking up for yourself and the band, but face it- Jonny has a lot of people who say he's trash. And you guys were arguably some of the closest people to him, or at least hung around him often enough to have at least SOME judge of character.
So yes- while Jonny and Taylor need professional help, one of the main concerns is about Jonny's influence over Taylor and vice versa. To your best knowledge, does he truly want to be sober? Does Taylor?
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I got a cap because the post didn't disappear for me until I saw this and refreshed the page to make sure it was actually worth posting the cap. How weird, sorry Colin if you wanted it gone but here it is.
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I got a cap because the post didn't disappear for me until I saw this and refreshed the page to make sure it was actually worth posting the cap. How weird, sorry Colin if you wanted it gone but here it is.
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I got you anon
He is saying that he did not know about it at the time it was happening because he did not witness it happening. If he didn't witness what happened then he can't say what happened.
If what anons were asking for is his opinion
about what happened, what value would his opinion have since he didn't witness it?
The allegations of abuse aren't only limited to his exes, though. There's been accounts of fans and people who directly worked with the band that state he was abusive to them. They got kicked out of Warped Tour for sexual harrassment allegations, and other shit also happened backstage where he was physically/verbally abusive to people.
So while Colin can't comment about Chelsea's relationship with Jonny because he didn't witness any abuse happening, it doesn't mean he doesn't know of Jonny's abusive nature.
Who cares? Those of us who don't like people who act like nothing happened when it's pretty obvious they were aware of shit like that going on. Colin's trying to paint himself as taking the high road, but he hasn't. The photographer who almost got assaulted by Jonny said the band and crew had a total "boys will be boys" attitude towards his behavior. They all knew. They didn't care as long as it didn't affect the band too much.
Anyway, that's all I'm saying on it. He provided a bit of milk. I doubt there's much more he has to say on the matter.
If colin is posting here then that's the last discussion you want to have right now when he can possibly spill some milk.
This is another way of scaring away the milk. Go sperg about it on twitter yeah?
Honestly? I don't think he will say more than he already said. He seems smart enough to not want to insert himself into this mess, though the information about the break up would be appreciated.
I'm just appaled on how someone with the mental capacity of a 13 year old like Jonny could surround himself with people like Colin, Taylor, Chelsea etc who all speak like perfectly capable human beings.
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Just thought id point out Taylor posted 3 positive quotes in her first 3 stories but if you look at her recently liked she was liking stuff about toxic relationships but didn't post any of those on her story. interesting
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i'm just cheering him on because he's the only one that's calling Jen on her bullshit and she can't say shit back. This family needs to get slapped back into their senses because they're a mess. They're basically the typical trailer trash you see in movies but with youtube money. >>638083>>638085
I wonder if it's because the apartment complex found out about the drugs. Makes me think if they found about it when they do yearly inspections or what. Then again, I wonder if the lack of work from the two is catching up on them and they have to downgrade
To be fair he is the one that pushed this boulder down the hill. None
of this would have come to light if it weren't for him.
Yeah, I don't know why he would want to be in a band with Jonny in the first place, but he's the one that for real spilled that milk.
I’m disappointed he decided to just dip with the “yeah that’s all I know sorry bye”. I really wanted to know the answer to >>637909
I don’t buy the “that’s all I know”. I think Jonny shared a lot with him both through text and in person. You can’t say you were always there for someone and so close to them, but then say yeah I don’t know anything about this thing that happened between him and Taylor. I’m not even asking anything about Chelsea. Just really curious why they intially broke up and she went bezerk on Twitter, and why she stopped following him like his shadow on tour. I’m sure he knows but just doesn’t want to tell.
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>>638146>trying to prove to people you have at least a little bit of money
…still doesn't prove you're not leaching off your girlfriend who's 10 years younger than you whose house you live in.. bum.
It cracks me up that he has talked about how he would "never work a normal job bc he lives his dream" yet he is again unemployed and can't hold any job
bc he'd rather shoot dope.
Keep shamelessly leaching off your gf whose career you're ruining after showing her how to shoot heroin and not choosing real recovery for either of you jonny.. it's a good look.
Can't believe Taylor has mentioned that she wanted to have a family with him at one point when he has never even met his fucking 10 yr old daughter. Unreal, these two.
Maybe. It seems they're taking a while to leave. Usually with evictions once it goes through court you've got about a week to get out. I wonder if they're worried about more animal control calls. 1. Their address is out there. People found it out thanks to JC and TND's own stupidity and that one video interview by that magazine showed a shipping label with it on it before taking the video down. They could be afraid there's going to be more animal control visits if people decide complaining might get those animals help. 2. They share walls with their neighbors. I have a feeling they're not the quietest, most polite neighbors. Maybe smell's getting out, too. I don't know. I've lived in places where the smell of people's cooking has drifted out in the hallways, but that's it. I don't know if her small mammals smell or if that odor's carrying anywhere.
But everything's tinfoil. A house is quite convenient though. You can be noisier and smellier before it carries to your neighbors. And I don't get why she's setting up another tank if they're moving. That makes no sense.
Only a gift for his "boys"? what about Star?
Still think they dumped star and the photos/videos we saw were either old or taken at her new home
JC has a song written about the kid he abandoned. I used to think it was a good song (when I was 17 and stupid) but it’s ridiculously cruel and sad.
Some real winning lines;
“And back to these cold, shitty days in Portland
Wishing I'd never come across your face”
“I never planned to carry your burdens
But this child was a mistake”
“I knew from the moment I stepped off that plane, we had no future
How come your dreams are always so bitter?
And who knows?
Maybe one day she will know my name” ((the birth mom makes a reference to that line in her long twitter post))
“You lay awake crying because your child
carries my name,
while I regret ever making you apart of my life”
“Sadly enough, this song's not to hurt you
Just to show the world that I'm free”
He is SUCH a piece of SHIT
Wowww.. absolutely disgusting. Jonny clearly is pretty out of touch w reality for thinking this should've been used in a song, let alone having thought/wrote it in the first place.
Clearly shows that his daughter isn't a priority and that he thinks the fact that she was unplanned with an ex is a valid excuse to not have anything to do with her.
Perfect baby daddy taylor!!!!!! So sad that it's almost funny that she would ever consider a family with this shitpile.
Jesus christ, that girl is way better off not knowing this piece of shit. How can anyone write this garbage and then record it for the world to hear? This is just spiteful and cruel. Not to hurt you? Literally talking about regretting making a woman apart of his life and how their kid is a mistake.
I have no idea what possessed Taylor to think she wants to have this gremlin's children or a future with this trash. The scumbag wrote a fucking song condemning his innocent kid for no other reason than he doesn't want to take responsibility.
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"i made an effort"
The fact that jonny is always trying way too hard
to hurt his exes shows that he's just a hurt little bitch inside.
He's pathetic all the way around. Idk wtf Taylor sees or ever saw in him. Just cause u have a big fkn mouth and think you're sO cRaZy and people just dont feel like dealing with u so they put up with it doesn't mean you're anything but annoying af and that youre most likely lacking any type of redeeming quality as a human.
I can't stand him.. I really cant.
He really is just a little bitch. Weak people are the only ones that find idiots like that attractive and that will put up with them.
Not only has jonny chosen drugs over his friends and even family time and again, but he has taken an active part in trying to bring people down with him by trying to get them hooked on heroin (Chelsea included), which is literally killing hundreds of people every day.. he's just an absolute piece of shit.
Hey jonny.. if you have any fucking braincells left.. LET YOUR GIRL LEAVE YOU to recover from the addiction you've fostered in her. Or man the fuck up and leave her so she can get better!! You "love" her right?? Fucking laughable. Do what you need to do by yourself
to fix your fucking self too, cause you're worse than useless to the world the way you are now.
And I'm going to take what Chelsea said with a grain of salt. It's not like she's speaking directly with either of them, so she got it as second-hand information which may or may not be true. No sane landlord's going to let someone they want out of the rental badly enough to evict have extra time to leave. They don't care if they have to chuck your shit out on the lawn because you haven't found a place. You're gone when they (or the courts) say you have to leave. Also, they got a house pretty easily. Nobody'll rent to you if you have an eviction on your record and landlords do check. They don't want to deal with shitty renters.
Now that I think about it, Chelsea may have mistaken the apartments not renewing their lease with eviction. Landlords have to give renters 30 days to vacate if they decide they don't want them there anymore. That's not considered eviction. Maybe since they're on month-to-month, the landlord found it easier to just tell them they have 30 days to go rather than spend the money to court to do an actual eviction.
If she doesn't 'rehome' them, I'm going to place a bet on her saying at least one just didn't deal with the move well, and how she cried and cried and did all she could! Bonus points if she can't keep the story consistent, it feeds into her saviour complex, or the animal is one of the ones we haven't seen in months.
I'm 50/50 as to whether the move will kickstart her hoarding again because she's doing ~ so much better ~ and all of that.
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This is from JC’s IG story. I had to hold it down to get the screenshot or the ‘send a message field’ would of made it impossible to read what he wrote.
Go to inpatient and stay there. Let Taylor do the same.
If you really want to change, you'll make hard decisions like that.
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Who are you telling, Jen?
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That’s really pathetic that he thinks buying her shoes will help make the situation any better lmao. They each need to go to inpatient seaparately if they want any hope of being clean. They really don’t care, this is all so fake that they’re giving the “woe is me” attitude. Acting like they’re really doing something when they’re just sitting at home all day. Taylor won’t do anything work related and Jonny is unemployed. It seems like at this point they haven’t lost enough to really be serious about changing.
Sometimes you have to hit your “rock bottom” to really decide to change. I’m not sure if this last blowout was either of their rock bottom.
"Happy Valentines day babe">buys his girlfriend designer shoes with her money
what a bum
Since you are an attorney I am surprised you haven't referred to the statutes for a concrete answer.
Related, Texas does not explicitly address rogue tenants in its code, ie. whether Jonny is considered a tenant after living and receiving mail at her address for a period of time.https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/the-eviction-process-texas-rules-landlords-property-managers.html
In Texas, a landlord can terminate a tenancy early if the tenant does not pay rent or violates the lease or rental agreement. Before filing an eviction lawsuit, the landlord must first give the tenant a three-day notice to vacate. The landlord does not have to give the tenant the option to fix the violation or pay the rent. If the tenant does not move out of the rental unit at the end of the three days, then the landlord can file an eviction lawsuit with the court (see Tex. Prop. Code Ann. § 24.005).https://www.texastenant.org/eviction.html
The judge or the jury will make a final decision after hearing the case. If the landlord wins, the law allows you five days to appeal the decision or move out. If you win, the landlord also has five days to appeal the decision.
If [you appeal and] the county court rules for the landlord again, the court must give you at least ten days to vacate the premises before a writ of possession can be executed.
Idk. I feel like as shitty and brainwashed as Taylor is, I think if she had a near death experience from an OD, I think she might turn her shit around for real.
But then again I can’t know for sure.
I usually don't refer to statutes when speaking with laymen. I've learned over the years legal jargon just makes their eyes glaze over.
Yes, there is a three day notice to quit for noncompliance. If they don't leave in three days, then the landlord can file with the court to get them evicted. The tenant can then file and answer, show up at the following hearing and argue why they should be allowed to stay. That can buy them three weeks to three months' reprieve in Texas courts, but in most cases, they're going to lose. Once the tenant has lost, the judge issues a final judgment that means the tenant has to move out. They're given up to four weeks, but if you don't bother to fight it, they aren't that generous with the time and usually you have the sheriff knocking at the door a week later to see if you have voluntarily removed all your belongings or you need some motivation.
Besides, do you think Taylor's actually going to bother to fight it? She's too high most of the time to take care of her pets, let alone show up in court. Plus, she wouldn't pass up the chance to post about an actual eviction and how she's fighting to keep her and her babies' home so they all don't end up in the streets. That's very much Taylor's MO right there.
And that other anon's right. There is no record of any eviction proceedings being filed against her. That tells me the landlord decided to tell them their lease was no longer going to be renewed and they had 30 days to leave. They also got a place rather quickly. No landlord will rent to someone without checking to see if there are evictions on their record unless they're a slumlord. And do you think those two, who enjoy flexing their so-called wealth so much, are going to rent a rat trap? I don't.
When I first started right out of law school, my firm had me on smaller cases like small claims and evictions. It's pretty universal how they're done because all states have adopted some form of the Uniform Landlord Tenant Act. And sometimes we would advise landlords to just refuse to renew a lease rather than go through the expense and time of trying to evict a month-to-month client for noncompliance. If they fight it, you end up having them on your property longer if the court's docket is moving slowly. And the client is much more likely to do a lot of damage before they finally get shoved out the door if you forceably evict them rather than than give them a month to pack up and go. You can always make up a valid reason they need to go, like you're planning on doing some renovations to the place or whatever so they're less grouchy about having to find a new home thus don't take it out on the property.
>I usually don't refer to statutes when speaking with laymen.
Which is why I quoted the two websites I did. I was referring to your vague statement, "It's usually three days or a week once a court's ruled on it."
Why did you ignore my amended comment? I deleted the first immediately because I omitted the quote from the second site which includes the exact number of days.
And yes, I agree that their landlord simply declined to renew their 30-day tenancy, but my comment was made solely to explain precisely what the law in Texas states to put the matter to rest.
I really doubt she'll go to LA. Jonny is what she knows right now, it's always easier to stay with the devil you know than the devil you don't. With Jonny there's an established routine, which apparently is pay for his toys, buy his drugs, get high.
On some level she has to know that going to LA would be an incredibly stupid idea if she actually wants to get well, but maybe I'm giving her too much credit.
Knowing nothing about San Antonio house rentals other than https://www.zillow.com/san-antonio-tx/rent-houses/
it seems like they could get something reasonable for close to what she's paying now. It would free her up to hoard even more animals (no need to worry about the neighbors) and it might even be cheaper for her in the long run.
Does Jonny have any income? Song royalties, anything like that? There's got to be something there. Honestly I wonder how they're able to stay afloat at all. I know the IRS will likely not ask for a lump sum, it gets spread out over time but they can't be doing all that well. She's blown through her money like crazy and now that she's tainted her brand with animal neglect and drug abuse it might be tough for her to get that per monthly income back up to what she's become accustomed to.
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Not milk but if you want to facepalm, take a look at the lyrics for the song JC posted. He’s deep into his ‘I am always the victim, and someone please love me’ routine.
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I wouldn't necessarily say it's over, but it isn't exactly a great move to be taking breaks from videos either. The reality of a YouTube career is that it's very fickle, and views alone aren't enough for content creators to sustain themselves. Profit comes from sponsorships as well as merchandise, which come from views.
Another factor is that she might have 1.6mil subs, but a big chunk of those subs aren't active viewers. Her last two videos didn't even break 200k views, and that's because she's caged herself into the whole image of the "hot chick who has too many pets", so anything that doesn't show her hoard is not going to give her profit.
If she keeps doing this shit, which she will, even her most rabid fans will lose interest. Her career peaked in a very short amount of time, and she let it get to her head which made her lose grip of reality, so now it's on a steady descent that she can only stop by actually getting her shit together and keeping a more regular schedule.
Totally agree. If she wants to save her channel and maintain consistency/grow at all, she's going to have to put a REAL schedule together and come up with creative videos to put out over a long period of time. Not just "oh here's my new impulse buy and care facts based on the first link I clicked on Google! oh all the comments are telling me this animal isn't even the species I think it is?? blame the breeder!!1! now I'll just take the video down and post a new one explaining how much of a victim I am, since everyone else is wrong!"
She's going to have to be responsible in many different ways. Sticking to the schedule, owning up to her mistakes, and doing better by her animals by PROVING she's changing her ways. But we all know that's not in her wheelhouse since all we've ever seen are lies about "uploading new video in three days!", "Oh sorry I took this whole month off even though I promised at least 4 videos. it's just muh migraines :((( TOTALLY didn't relapse on heroin or anything! lol haters be crazzy!"
Side note: she tentatively planned to return to YouTube on Feb 12-15. Can't wait to see what her first video will be after a two-month "mental health break" (drug binge.) I'm wondering if she'll even come back within the month, or if she'll say "ooooo sorry the stress of moving got to me, I gotta take another two months off to 'recover'"
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Mushu is still alive wow
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I know alot of people say axolotl dont need large tanks but she seems so cramped in there.
I've been looking into starting a tank for the species and from what I've read here, everyone seems to think mushu is beyond repair. But the species has really great regenerative mechanics.
If she corrected her care and kept an eye on her water levels maybe provided a more sustainable habitat, Mushu should be able to regenerate her gills fairly well when shes not under so much stress right?
TLDR: Mushu saddens me more then any of her other pets, shes a hardy animal and taylor is keeping her stressed and suffering when Mushu could so easily bounce back with proper care.
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Are those tweezers shes using?
Great repair of SOME things. Not all parts of an organism can be repaired or regenerated. That's unfortunately not how they work.
Mushu has melanocytes burned beyond repair thanks to Taylor, and I am incredibly doubtful that the gill stalks will ever heal before it eventually dies.
They look like aquarium tongs, pretty normal way of feeding earthworms to lotls
God her waterline triggers
me so much, it's obvious she doesn't do consistent water changes
excellent point gdi, she needs a chiller. There was no reason to buy an expensive aquarium light either, they're usually pricey. I use a $15 shop light for aquarium photos, but really any lamp at all will do if she just wants it for the once every few months we get an update on whether mushu is even still alive.
I'm glad she added more plants, but like anons have said it seems like too many. There's a balance somewhere that would allow her to hide and climb but still swim, Taylor didn't find that balance.
There is no reason to have a lowered waterline for healthy axolotls. All it does is take away swimming space, same with all the clutter Taylor added.
Mushu doesn't have any space to swim right now and her filter is also way too tiny for an axolotl.
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Waiting until your “body is all healthy again?” She acts like her addiction is the common cold.
Rest and inspirational quotes ain’t going to make your “body healthy,” honey. Try in-patient.
It's really weird. "for my arm"
Isn't that why they're callled SLEEVES.
And how. it's typed. like this.
why? It's weird and doesn't make sense.
Legs can also have “sleeves.”
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arm looks rough
Only thing I thought when I saw Star.
She looked, as far as I could tell, a healthy weight when Taylor first got her.
I keep wondering how she let Star get that fat. But I have to remember - strung out on drugs. Taylor can't care for herself, much less her animals.
This is clearly what happened, but you'd have to be pretty damn oblivious to not notice that sort of weight gain and take steps to prevent, slow, or reverse it.
Star gained a LOT of weight.
Wet food 2x a day is enough for 1 inside cat, maybe 3x if active. Dry food has too many carbs and is too easy to overfeed. Dry food should be only refilled once until the bowl is empty or food is sitting over.
3 cats is a lot of work. Taylor needs to calm tf down. She's being lazy with her animals. She doesn't really care about her animals she only cares how they make HER feel.
this makes me wonder if taylors house is covered in cat vomit if she doesnt have proper feeding times set up. if any of my cats over eat, due to me giving them too much food at times, they end up throwing up all over the place. cause they dont stop themselves.
and i highly doubt she has routine feeding times, she just fills the bowl and fills it when its empty. yikes
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I remember, but she should have noticed before Star got that noticeably fat and actively started monitoring her food intake.
Ghost also looked chunky in that other story she posted, but it's harder to tell because he's fluffy.
But like >>639180
said, that's work and requires more thought than just dumping food in bowls when they're empty.
She's a munchie, so she probably would also want people to feel bad for her for being an addict and being oh so sick.
Notice she doesn't complain about those illnesses she "has" anymore. I know it's pretty much agreed upon that she wasn't lying about her invisible illness. But c'mon. She used that shit and being gluten intolerant as an excuse for when she was shooting up or having withdrawals for sure. Like the one pet convention where she was wearing that ugly lingerie-type romper.
all the posts on her story of her cats just show she's high and think they're so entertaining, zooming in and out over and over on Star's sleeping face.
Plus the fact that she deleted the one with her arm + tracks. She's too high to notice it's clear evidence she's not sober, and only took it down when she either checked here and saw it was capped and being discussed, or someone messaged her about it being fuckin obvious as shit that she's still using
what a trainwreck. she's so fucking pathetic. those poor poor animals, Star was obviously doing better when she was living outside.
My cats have feeding times, but they do graze on dry and only really eat meals of wet. They don't vomit because they have food available, cats really shouldn't if you're feeding the right amount. Taylor probably just dumps as much food as she can out and lets it get empty until she comes off her drug high.
Taylor, if you're lurking: with three cats, especially if you let them graze, you NEED microchip feeders. You don't have enough rooms to separate them all for meals, so it's too easy for one cat to eat the others' food and get overweight, while the others don't get enough to eat. You need a way to make sure each cat only has access to their food and can't steal from another cat. They're like $140. If you can afford all those ugly ass shoes, you can afford bowls to feed your damn cats properly.
Most people do not get bruises that large which is a symptom of EDS, ie. due to the collagen defect the blood spreads further. She had similar bruises around her tattoos; nearly her entire lower leg around her tattoo of Egg became bruised.>>639078
>I want. To finish. My snake sleeve. So I can hide. My bruises.
Wow so awful.. that is use from today. You can tell she is high from her voice and how she's talking in her story about Star.
So unfortunate. Glad to see your suboxone is really working taylor!
Go to fucking detox. It's like a week long and they give you meds. It's not even bad. Get it over with and be done with it
please don't upgrade to posting irrelevant videos. >>639154
tells the entire story.>>639024
They couldn't even circle what they thought was it, so I kindly rotated the picture for them and they still didn't bother. Speculation at least needs some effort or it doesn't belong.
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guys please get story saver or a similar app and then convert the file to webm. screenshots can only do so much and some anons are blocked by her
also, this is one FAT cat holy shit
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>>639314>>639266>You can tell she is high from her voice and how she's talking in her story about Star.
Sometimes I think some anons WANT her to still be on heroin. Where does she sound high in that clip? She sounds actually better than she did in a while IMO. >>639208>>639154
And these are clearly scratches, don't forget she got a lot of animals with sharp nails. Not all wounds have to be track marks. Especially since it would be a weird place to shoot up.
I am not trying to whiteknight but all the tinfoiling and reaching here is getting out of hand.
Smallest tank i’ve ever seen for an axol her size. Especially comparing to smaller youtube channels (that also doesn’t have that much youtube money compared to Tay) that basically upgraded from 20 gallons to 40 with a more beautiful layout just for their Axolotl.
Taylor’s pets are living in conditions that a 5 year old would do. She has all the money and time to make each one look more nature yet here she is with her petco experience.
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Since when do animals leave bruises like that? Not even a dog could do that while playing, unless it was using force. She is confirmed a heroin addict, isn’t seeking inpatient care, is dating a notorious heroin addict who can’t even get clean despite knocking on deaths door.
You are white knighting.
Lol at this whole comment. She absolutely sounds high.. coming from an ex junkie who still has people in my life who use. And those clearly aren't scratches from an animal. Those are very common spots to shoot.. there is a large vein that runs down the side of your arm right there that's easy to hit.
Maybe you're thinking this in light of the phantom syringe comments.. which is kind of fair, but its at least pretty blatantly obvious that those are injection marks, which is why she deleted that story from her instagram.
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None of the shit i post is without context little bitch. Insta stories are fucking milk so get the fuck over it retard
I'm not holding my breath lol
She's probably already received them and the results were most likely inconclusive.
I honestly expected her to write up some fake results and lie. We already know that's what she did with her "apology" for slander.
Maybe she's too high to even bother doing that?
so would you rather we say "i wonder how her snake is doing i haven't seen it in a while"
kek it would be possible if she only had a few pets but she literally has over 50 and many of similar or the same species. we have to identify them somehow. unless you think we should just assign each animal a number or something??? lmao>>639451
ok but we didn't name them? how does that make US sound childish? like would you not call a person by their name just because you thought it was a "dumb af" name?
this thread is getting kinda ridiculous after the last big milk spill. its like retard season up in here with invisible syringes and "track marks" that are clearly rashes and now this shit about using the animals names. sigh.
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