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20 year old "family friendly pet mom" Youtuber and her 31 year old junkie boyfriend Jonny Craig.
Previous thread: >>460352
The basics:> Taylor is a notorious animal hoarder known for collecting 30+ rare and exotic pets and manhandling/mistreating them for the sake of her Youtube channel which has over 1 million subscribers. Several pets have died in her care, many more have fallen ill due to her neglect or disappeared after "rehoming" them. Fails to give proper enclosures for many of her pets, including overstuffing fish tanks, keeping her kittens locked in the bathroom, and her mouse and hedgehog in the closet.> Jonny Craig is the frontman of the band Slaves and is most well-known for being an outspoken abusive junkie. He has been in and out of rehab centers for a decade now and has been kicked out of multiple bands and off of tours for his behavior. He is usually homeless when he does not have a girlfriend to leech off of.> Several of Jonny's ex-girlfriends have come out with stories of Jonny's physical and sexual abuse, including rape at knife-point. His ex Chelsea confided this in Taylor when she and Jonny first started dating, in which Taylor's response was to laugh with Jonny and make a public spectacle of it.> Recently moved out of her parent's house and into an apartment with Jonny Craig, which caused public drama between her and her mother, who adamantly disapproves of Jonny after hearing of his history and discovering that together he and Taylor were snorting coke and heroin.> Taylor loves to throw pity parties for herself and dodge around the real issues when faced with criticism about her husbandry, hoarding, and hypocrisy. She can never keep her stories straight and will tell outright lies only to contradict them hours later. Her fans are sycophants who only encourage her.
Facebook (private:) https://www.facebook.com/Taylor.Nicole.Dean
-Wasted her money getting Jonny some permanent dentures which he's now had the surgery for
-Whinged about someone leaving a fake review on her apartment, now wants it tattooed on her as a joke
-Got another snake (who is apparently an asshole! Man we all wonder why…)
-Has only made two (iirc) new videos, blames her "invisible illnesses" (though don't worry guys! she wasn't in enough pain to avoid going out and getting her nails done!)
-Got her cats collars but has removed them due to everyone pointing out collars are dangerous for cats (which she didn't know despite being some amazing animal expert)
-Lied about adopting a pure bred cat when she obviously bought it from craigslist (and bought it early, separating it from it's mother. gg)
-All her stans are now impulse buying reptiles and hedgehogs and panic tweeting her because they never did research just like momma Tay :^)
I was referring to the newest image she posted on IG
I can't see collars on them here but apologies if I was incorrect
sage for no milk
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He looks pretty good in today‘s picture but you can see in this picture from 3 days ago his tummy still looked extremely bloated. I‘m not sure if that has changed by now it‘s honestly sad seeing the poor little guy like that. What confuses me the most is why she doesn’t do shit about it??? Even people with 0 experience in cats can tell that this doesn‘t look healthy at all. Didn‘t the vet tell her?? Did they deworm him at all? That barely takes any effort and with all the money she has i‘m sure the vet bills won’t be a problem either soooo.. why does he still have parasites making his tummy look so bloated ?
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Didn’t she she get in a twitter argument with someone who said she went to online school and then Taylor said she attended public school?
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It is online, but it’s categorized as a public school (at least that’s what Google says)
Learn to sage you autists.
Mods please put this back on auto sage if this continues.
“Bonded with her family” or “more bonded to her mom” is just code for “her actual family was the only ones who paid attention to them.”
It really isn’t that hard to get a dog to bond with you if you give a shit, if it’s a rescue or a dog that’s been previously abused it might be a bit more challenging but nothing out “animal expert” can’t fix. Dogs primarily bond to whoever is the one feeding them.
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This was already posted about in the previous thread.>>479508
Fortunately (at least from my understanding) is that a Petco and Petsmart don’t sell dogs that come from puppy mills, and Cali just passed a law last year that forbids any pet store from selling dogs from mills.
Petland still does, though. Not sure about Pet Supermarket or Pet Supplies Plus because I’ve never been to either of those stores, but Petland is a definite.
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So I was skimming through old videos to find any sort of milk. And her gecko cages are COVERED in shit. How can someone let the screen and base get that dirty?? It’s not that hard to take a paper towel and wipe it off once a day, Taylor!! I know cresties are little but I also know from experience that their poop smells like human poop as soon as they drop one. How could she just ignore it ugh
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This is the only proof I see still around. From what I remember she had said there was something medically wrong w/ kiara and they were having trouble selling her, so of course hero taylor had to buy her or no one else would
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It’s a good thing Taylor didn’t take any of the dogs, because they’d have the most miserable life.
If dogs aren’t given ample time to exercise or play, they’ll cause trouble in the house. Our dog expert Taylor will chock it up to them being untrainable and just either crate them all hours of the day, or surrender it.
Just like her dumb ass was tweeting “adopt a Pitbull” yesterday for asspats because she’s clearly never going to adopt one, she says adopt don’t shop purely for asspats.
I honestly think it’s hilarious though because I think Taylor is the only “big” Pet Youtuber NOT exclusive to the aquatics community who hasn’t adopted an animal. And no Gus doesn’t count.
Agreed. And even in the aquatics community a lot of keepers "take in" or save fish from bad situations, if not actual rescues because there aren't many.
Jennie from SolidGold just got a new bunny (I don't know if she adopted) and I don't know if the "pets aren't like furniture or jewelry" in her speech about not impulse buying was intentional shade at Taylor, but the contrast is definitely noticeable.
tbh her getting kittens instead of adult cats bothers me so much. She's such a lying hippocrit about EVERYTHING. Animal care, adoption, women's issues…
I really feel terrible for her mom. She did what she had to do with Tanner, never realizing that it would turn Taylor into a little monster because she was jealous of the attention from her disabled little brother… Shit's sad.>>479680
Holy FUCK, I had only ever watched this on mobile so I didn't really notice. And you can tell that's not just residue, its straight up full blown gecko shits. If she thinks that's acceptable for a video, what are we NOT being shown???
Also can confirm, reptile shit is foul. Snake piss/shit is actually reminiscent of cat piss/shit in a way. With that, plus the kittens, mouse, hedgehogs, and her obvious obliviousness to general cleanliness, and JOHNNY FUCKING CRAIG…
Yeah. Her $3k apartment smells like zoo, weed/cigs, and stagnant half finished Twisted cans. All under a fine veil of whatever overpriced instathot hair products she uses.
I just gagged.
Sage because not relevant
I don't think there is a perfect example of a good keeper. I love Solid Gold but she did fuck up with the Discuss, she is just usted to manipulated gold fish but she went for discuss just to follow KingofDIY steps and the result was all of her discuss dying and she blame the breeder (even do she could have make a bigger effort the moment the Discuss stop eating and she could have save one if she have put apart the Discuss which was being pick on by the others and at the end of the day it died because she just couldn't separated it)
There's nothing wrong with getting a kitten if you're actually adopting and not paying off a breeder so you can take them away from their mother too early and kill them.
The alternative is that they grow up in a shelter. Yes adult cats are less likely to be adopted so you should consider them too but telling people not to adopt kittens just shifts the issue.
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That’s because an animal genuinely liking you probably doesn’t happen that often…
wow I didn't know that, I found Solid Gold recently and am still making my way through her videos. I'll have to look into her Discuss ones. However, she's definitely better than Taylor lol
Another good one is GoHerping. He actually recently started a thing to take in rescue reptiles, rehabilitate them, and find them new homes.
But yeah. It's astounding to me that Taylor hasn't managed to take in a single actual rescue… Seriously, it's like she's actively avoiding them. Go on craigslist and you see tons of reptiles legit in need of new homes. I only have two reptiles and one is a craigslist rescue. It's really not that hard, especially with ball pythons.
Oh wait, she needs ball pythons that cost more than most people's mortgages. Taking in someone's unwanted normal/sub $500 ball python wouldn't get as many views/likes.
Just spending five minutes on sites like Petfinder, you can find so many purebred animals that people just can’t keep anymore.
I remember one of her excuses for not adopting is “the animal I want isn’t up for adoption in my area” which would be an understandable excuse for a REGULAR person.
Taylor is a Youtuber who isn’t bogged down to a 9-5 job 5 days a week, sets her on schedule, regularly makes trips across the state and country to go to conventions/collab with people, and has enough disposable income to buy 7000$ gold bracelets, flat screen TVs and get her boyfriend dental implants.
If anyone has enough money and time to make a weekend trip to another state to pick up an animal that’s up for adoption, it’s her.
Not to mention, it's not like she wants rare breeds, I'm pretty sure Ragdolls are one of the more common cat breeds, and there are plenty of lookalikes in shelters, and surely cats have breed rescues like dogs do?
I'm going to use dog breeds because I know more of what's rare there than with cats, but it still applies to cats. If she wanted, say, a Norwegian Lundehund (because they have some cool stuff to them and they'd be the perfect dog for, "the breeder scammed me!" since they all have a disease that can kill them at any moment, which breeders will point out), she'd probably have to go to a breeder, because they're one of the rarest breeds and you won't find them just anywhere. She didn't want the cat equivalent of a Lundehund though, but that's probably because most breeders of rare breeds wouldn't even consider giving her a 5 week old kitten.
Even if it’s like we all suspect and she couldn’t give a shit about adopting/rescuing animals, rescuing an animal (especially with some sort of special needs) would give her so much clout and asspats—she’s such a narcissist I can’t believe she hasn’t done it yet.
We already got a taste with her first GTP that was malnourished/sick, and her constantly emphasizing that Kovu is blind and has some other health problem I forget, and with her one kitten that died which ~totally~ wasn’t her fault, she loves to emphasize about her poor animals that were sick because it was all the breeders fault.
Adopting special needs animals seems exactly like her shtick, not because she cares about their wellbeing but because people who take in children/animals with disabilities or special needs are automatically thought of as more ‘patient’ and ‘saintly’ thanthr average person which is exactly what our princess craves.
Sadly her shallowness comes above even her need for attention, it seems. She has to have the designer clothes, purebred/high end animals, the rockstar boyfriend. We've established she doesn't truly love animals, they're just an accessory to complete the cool girl image she's going for. Do you really think someone who would wear a ball python (of particular note because they are SHY! almost all of their time is spent hiding) for three hours at a party would actually give enough shits to rescue anything? Someone who bought/named her snake Gucci, because it ~looks like the Gucci logo~?
The bottom line is, she sees animals as accessories, and who wants used accessories, amirite?
Lol, I feel like whenever certain youtubers say that kind of stuff they're lowkey shading Taylor. It's understandable, since her channel has turned from animal care/info to a fucking haul/unboxing channel but with live animals.
Oh, btw, another couple great but small snake channels are Jossers Jungle and Jenny Gaines. There are so many YTers more worthy than Taylor its not even funny, and yet because of her popularity any animal related search and you're likely to see her first. Which is fucking awful for those looking to actually learn. Oh and their comment sections are full of fucking TND stans trying to call anyone with pets a Taylor knockoff. Barf.
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Why is emzotic trying so hard to be weird "friends" with taylor??? She might be trying to make up for her boyfriends video, but it's still weird…
“This whole moving process”
Didn’t she move in November? Was she not allowed to unpack all her things until Jonny got his teeth? I shouldn’t take you three fucking months to “get everything settled” in your new place unless you’re a lazy or just don’t give a shit.
She says "things are settling down" all the time, even before JC that was just her way to keep viewers like, "sorry videos are inconsistent but if you stick with me I promise they'll get better!"
So either she's just overly optimistic about her productivity, often, or she's lying to keep her fanbase around.
Knowing the mentality of addiction, it's probably both. She "means well" but below the surface knows she'll fail, making it all lies. If she was actually increasing productivity, she'd get off twitter, stop TALKING about how she's ~totally gonna make vids y'all~ and just release shit without making these fake announcements.>>480822
Eh, imo, Em seems like the kind to ignore drama/kill 'em with kindness. Besides, the more of Taylor's followers jump ship or at least stop relying on TND as their sole source of animal info, the better. I think the anon that keeps beefing on other youtubers for looking in Taylor's direction is the kind of person to start clique feuds during recess, rofl.
Seriously, what do you want to happen? People like Em to ~publicly denounce~ Taylor, ensuring that TND stans will forever harass her and ignore her much better treatment of animals? There's a reason none of the other pet youtubers are doing this – it achieves absolutely nothing, likely worse than nothing.
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This girl with less than 100 followers just tweeted a dig about Taylor (which really isn’t that bad of an observation honestly), didn’t @ Taylor or anything and she found it and for some reason cared enough to send all her fans over to bug them.
We know just by the amount of compliments to herself she retweets from fans that she’s active in the tags, but she must have every variation of her name tracked at this point and just uses it to fight with people. It’s getting pathetic.
I definitely agree with Taylor about how she shouldn’t be labeled as slutty for how she chooses to dress, but I wish she’d stop with the whole “I wear these clothes for ~me~” nonsense.
Human nature dictates that EVERYONE wears clothing based on how they want to be perceived by other people, whether you want to be seen as intresting, professsional, sexy, provoking, edgy, whatever. You might LIKE the outfit you’re wearing (which is stupid that femisit-types have to point it out, you obviously like your clothes otherwise you wouldn’t be wearing it) but you also wear them for other people.
Taylor’s clothing choice have been screaming for people to notice how “interesting” and “mature” and “sexy” she is since she was at least 15. Probably even before that. On top of her tweeting things like “I was born to put boys in jail” and doing glamor shoots and posing with animals like it’s a photo shoot, I wish she didn’t pretend like she wasn’t doing what she’s doing.
Eh… As an ex-lolita (current Old Navy normie who wears makeup once every few months), I would say that you have to at the very least accept how other people will perceive your style. I was a shut in with no friends and no real desire for attention, but I was willing to accept looking like a weirdo because I identified with the style.
So, you can't really complain when you dress a certain way and people call you out on it. If you choose to dress "slutty" in public, you either want or have chosen to accept that other people may call you a slut. That Taylor bitches about it betrays either a huge lack of self awareness/her being dumb, or wanting MORE attention for being the poor widdle victim of mean slutshamers, or all of the above.
Own it, or wear something else.
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Of course the internet screen capped that BS that Taylor said about pit bulls and it’s spreading like wildfire. now all these little teenagers are believing you can leave a dog with a child and it’ll be juuust finneeee
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get ready for a new video guys, only two weeks to go
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i guess the video wasn't special enough to keep the tweet from being deleted
I think she knows better than to put JC front and center on her channel, since it would invite a slew of negative commentary. And because she has to know he's gross as fuck to her 12yo girl audience. Or, you know, any sane person.
I mean, have you ever just googled his name? The second result is about his sexual assault allegations, and pretty much every first page result is something terrible. If she names and features him openly she'll have gone from dumb to straight up doing her damnedest to destroy her career.
Animal loving hipster teen/preteen girls tend to be not super cool with junkie rapists…
In any case, we all know her vid will be completely worthless.
She needs to do an “how I edit my videos” video, but I know she never will because she’s an idiot who thinks an hour in front of adobe segmenting jump cuts and adding in background music is “hard work.” Or maybe she knows it isn’t and wants to keep up the facade.
The most advanced “editing” I’ve seen her do is the weird segments where she has Cheese and other animals talk with little though bubbles. I don’t know how she does that but I’m sure she plugs in what she wants to say into a text to speech thing and then just saves the soundbyte. Other than that her editing should take less than an hour, she doesn’t need separate days for filming and editing—she can get all of it done in less than a day.
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lol is this her attempt to try and get him to notice her?
I’ve seen videos of her where she’s stuttering and pausing and acting awkward, so I doubt it’s that.
I’m just talking strictly editing though. She acts like she does animator-style editing for her videos which is why it takes so long and she can’t devote any time to it when her ~illnesses~ flare up. All she has to do is hover her house over the area of the video she wants to jump cut, press two buttons at the same time, delete the portion in the middle and viola.
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On a list of things that probably never happened, this is the weirdest one. Convenient that she has a notebook and paper with her.
On the off chance this actually is true and either the girl is as big of a child as Taylor to hold a grudge for 6+ years, or Taylor is being the typical Story Time youtuber and massively exaggerating things (mildly dislike=hates with a PASSION), can we talk about how she’s fucking guilt tripping her in the note.
“I basically cheated on my schoolwork but I had ~insecurities~ :( feel bad for me l even though being upset over what we did as children is stupid”
I carry my diary and a notebook most places I go.
But she strikes me as the kind of person who'd use her phone for everything
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Taylor handling animals with her claws again
Other than the fact that she’s stabbing the hedgie, one thing I’ve noticed about all of her animal pictures is that either she is the center of it or the animal’s cuteness is the center of it. But it never goes past that.
There’s no photos of her pets where she genuinely looks happy to be with them and not trying to model for some sexy animal-themed spread in some magazine, she never posts anything about her pet’s individual personalities or funny things they do. It’s always just “look how awesome I look” or “look how cute ~my~ pet looks”
Her not going to college or trying to work outside of Youtube is wild to me. YouTube started out as a place where a lot of people who liked making videos in their bedroom got lucky and got the opportunity to make money off it in addition to their IRL jobs.
So many people now see vlogging and uploading lackluster content to their channel as the only job they see themselves doing, which is great when you’re young and attractive, but once that starts to fade you gotta find other things to branch out into.
Taylor might get opportunities to speak at elementary schools with her animals here and there but she has no actual experience and doesn’t seem to plan to try and get experience, so she’ll start out on the bottom ring of the ladder once her YouTube money dries up or YouTube pulls another fit and makes Adsense even more difficult to get.
This is very true. It's usually her posing with them or holding them however shittily she has to to get the shot she wants. Many live animals can be a bitch to photograph because they move, but she takes that out of the equation.
It's sad, its such proof that she isn't really interested in her animals doing their own things, and that they're just props and accessories to her. I'm not sure I've ever seen pictures of any of her snakes that WEREN'T as described above. (kind of understandable w/ ball pythons cuz they can be super reclusive but applies to her other snakes too)
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This right here, is the problem
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"if they aren't squirming they're totally fine with feeling vulnerable and exposed"
fuck off honestly.
If she did an ounce of research she'd know if you place an animal in a vulnerable position there's three responses they can have. Fight, flight or freeze. Freezing doesn't mean they're "relaxed" or enjoying it, it's a natural response to being in a situation that stresses them the fuck out.
When doing routine checks on lizards it's relatively common when checking their tummies, cloaca and feet to put them on their back and rub their stomach. This triggers a freezing response which gives you time to check everything is good and healthy. Does this mean the animal is okay with this? no not at all, and that is why it should be ONLY used for routine checkups.
I get that it's soooo cute to see animals on their backs because vulnerability is cute, but that doesn't mean you should be putting them in these positions for that reason.
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Can't forget this little gem from thread 2. Clearly her ACTUAL philosophy is "if the hedgie is fighting you just do whatever YOU want because you own it lolololol. Its struggles are FUNNY and CUTE and MARKETABLE!"
She's such a nasty soul.
Is she an idiot or does she not know animals can exhibit stress in ways other than squirming or aggression?
There is such a thing as FREEZING IN FEAR, Taylor. Shocking, I know.
Also if you stab the animal in the stomach it'll probably immobilize it a bit, giving you a few more seconds for clear Instaworthy photo.
Anytime she's held her hedgehogs in videos, if they're not squirming they're coiled up as a defense. It's longer than a few seconds, and sure it's not like it's five minutes, but it's still shit to make your pet uncomfortable.
Can't she just get a tripod or a grip for her phone, so she can cup the damn thing?
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Now Uber is tweeting her.
Person who’s known her since high school here
SA is huge but surprisingly small. If you live on the north side, which she does, you run into EVERYONE. I have run into her, my mother, boyfriend and coworkers have all run into her on multiple occasions. I actually ran into her YEARS ago at a Miley Cyrus concert. She’s not a celebrity here in any way. It’s just the small group of people her know her.
This whole youtube career for life approach boggles the shit out of me.
I see a bunch of people who were famous back when I was in high school barely making any money through their views nowadays.
Like My Drunk Kitchen can't even pull 100k views anymore. I see a bunch of young kids living the riche life but 5 years from now it'll be all gone and they'll… not have anything. They'll be forced to actually find a regular job like everyone else.
This girl legit has no life-long goals. If she can't commit to edit a video and ditches her job for a manicure, she's delusional if she thinks she can even make a living with a major in zoology or biology.
She’s only 20 so I’m hoping she’ll try college after another year or two of useless spending and goofing off, because if she doesn’t she’s going to be in for a tough time.
Within YouTube she’s seen as some expert, but outside of YouTube… she’d either get some zookeeping job or wind back up at Petco since she has zero experience actually working with animals, and those jobs don’t exactly pay well.
Sorry for "infight"
Her discuss didn't die because of the disease which I don't blame her at all, not even specialist know wtf it is. And yes she did blame the breeder after she address why all her discuss where gone.
Learn to read. I never blame her for the goldfish deaths.
I like what Emzotic is doing, where it’s very clear that her channel is just an extension of her IRL job and could probably double as a decent portfolio if she ever decided to switch companies or try work in different animal care fields. Too many new youtubers see it as their new full time career rather than just an extension of their passion or a way to network with people.
All of these dumb animal YouTubers who are in their early 20’s, buying animals that have a 10-50+ year lifespan whule either still living at home or have a Youtube income averaging at a little better than 3K and month, thinking money is limitless for them now. Unless they act quick, they’re not gonna have any prospects.
Hell, even working at petco they have an option where they’ll pay you to get certified as a dog groomer or trainer on the condition you have to work with them for another year or so. After that you can pretty much quit and start you’re own business. Even THAT would have been a smarter fall back move than quitting her one job (probably the only one she had) because she was moderately successful on Youtube being an attractive young person.
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You realize intentionally stressing your animals out for photos (even if it’s ~just two seconds~) counts as abuse, right?
It obviously isn’t grounds to call AS over, but it means you’re a pretty shitty owner who definitely isn’t well-meaning and accidentally making mistakes. Your response whenever someone points out you shouldn’t be handling your animals the way you do is “I know but it was only two seconds so it’s fine!”
And to think one of her favorite things to do is rag on Logan Paul for being an idiot and introducing his dog to a baby tiger. both of them are idiots but I’d be money Taylor would do the exact same thing.
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It kind of makes me sad on behalf of her parents and brother when she refers to jonny and the cats as her family
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She might be almost 21 but she definitely has a child’s view of what milestones in a relationship mean when you’ve been dating someone for less than half a year.
Not saying this in a shaming way but you’d think with the amount of people she dated (anons who went to school with her have said in past threads she was dating someone new almost weekly) you’d think she’d have a more stable idea of what a succesful relationship is. But then again her jumping around (or constantly getting with the wrong people and getting dumped immediately) makes sense.
Success definitely isn’t moving in with a drunk, failing musician after dating for two months and shelling out probably $20,000+ on dental implants (he can pretend all day that he’s rolling in money but the fact Taylor paid for everything is telling), completely shutting out your family and bonding with your boyfriend over laughing at his past girlfriends.
She likes to proudly talk about how she hung out with the wrong people growing up (like most unpopular or outcasted teenagers, myself included) and she learned and doesn’t do that anymore, but she hasn’t learn shit. She’s still doing it.
Idk… Em actually talked about the problems associated with buying wild-caught birds. She also talked to the owner/manager, which is what Taylor tried to do but mind you… this isn't some random person with 800 turtles stood on a street.
Idk, I see the problem but then Em didn't do it in a split second and talked to whoever was in charge, if she actually thinks that the pet store is good and won't fund that market again, it may be more worth than what Taylor did.
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yeah, many of the problems discussed here are ubiquitous among pet youtubers. but taylor is clearly a more extreme case. all she cares about is making herself look good by rescuing animals, not the animals themselves.
Emzotic is coward af, she likes to throw shade all the time but is all friendly with Taylor on Twitter. Probably if she put her foot down about Taylor i would respect her but in reality she is way to afraid of the backlash she will received (again) from Taylor's stans.
I mean she even jump out of the ship when her bf made the video when i am sure she put the idea on his head first.
em went on to mention that she did talk to the pet shop owner about selling wild caught birds and how that would bring about healthy issues, and also said that the owner was NOT going to be bringing any more wild caught exotic birds (might bring in some from captive bred breeders or something).
meanwhile, taylor talked to the man selling those turtles, and he showed zero signs of remorse OR understanding that what he was doing was wrong to the turtles. he probably would do it again: catch more turtles in the wild and sell ‘em on the road for five bucks.
Dude, Taylor’s fan base attacks Pet YouTubers for just owning the same animals as her or doing similar video concepts, imagine the shit she’d get for openly calling out Taylor?
Her BOYFRIEND made a video making fun of Taylor and she just hate as a result. It’s not cowardice, she’s being smart.
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Johnny doesn't even try to hide he uses her for money, his Instagram bio has her name with moneybag emojis around it.
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her mom just tweeted this. do they talk?
Em flip flops between "kill them with kidness", throwing shade or just acting all friendly with Taylor.
She have to choose one of them, she is looking very hypocrite doing all those things at the same time. I do get she doesnt want to deal with Taylor's fan base but she doesnt have to prentend she likes Taylor neither.
And i am saying she is coward because she doesnt have the guts to make a real statement against her but goes around making passive-agressive comments here and there but never something worthy.
>>482579>we've both had rough pasts
really taylor? we've seen your old past on facebook where you have a tantrum over your mother renovating the house instead of getting you a MacBook
boo fucking hoo, you poor thing
I have honestly no doubts he'll cheat during his tour. New teeth, she won't be around, not that her being around matters much since shes a doormat to him.
I read through her mom and dads twitter today and all the subtle anti Jonny tweets are amusing.
Obviously her rough past is referencing to kids being mean to her (something every kid on the face of the earth experiences), being sick sometimes (but not sick enough that you can’t do your makeup every day and date a dozen people by the time you’re 16), having a special needs brother that diverted some attention from her, and having the luxury and privilege to be able to afford any pet she wants.
Not going to pretend like she hadn’t gone through some traumatic experience in life because everyone has, but she’s the type of person who would milk a tragedy for everything that it’s worth so the fact she’s purposely vague leads me to believe she’s not that torn up about things.
>>482996>I do get she doesnt want to deal with Taylor's fan base but she doesnt have to prentend she likes Taylor either.
This is like 99% of YouTuber interactions, though.
A lot of them will kiss each other's ass for the views and because an army of 12 year olds behind a keyboard can be pretty vicious. Have you seen how Markiplier fans attack each other?
Like yeah it's fucked and hypocritical but it's not like they're not using each other for personal gain.
>And i am saying she is coward because she doesnt have the guts to make a real statement against her
Because realistically speaking she'll get squashed if she does that. Fanbases can really get ugly if someone dares speak about their idol. It's not convenient for her. If she had the same amount of leverage as Taylor, she'd probably go for it. The most she can do is be vague about it because then she'll be able to shade AND get to claim it wasn't directed toward Taylor because she didn't mention any names.
Like yeah it sucks that she sucks up to Taylor but she's more honest and respectul in the way she cares for her animals, which is what ultimately matters. Sage for blogging or whatever.
yeah I get that, but big fucking deal? tell that to people who actually see hardship as children, you know, actual hardship like poverty and/or abuse
i'm not about to feel sorry for someone whose illness was coddled with more animals than she can look after
"rough past", lol fuck off taylor. i'd guarantee that the piece of shit rapist she's paying for has had a rougher past than she has
Yeah, it was discussed in past threads. Some anon who knew her from high school and was friends with her on fb shared screenshots where she talks about wanting to move to L.A. and start a modeling career.
She still wants to move with California and well we know she uses animals as props so this might not be completely off the table.
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Jonny sits and reads all of Taylor's Instagram comments and responds to most about him
never once in my entire life have I heard about a ~recovering~ heroin addict being such an arrogant piece of garbage.
generally when addicts recover they learn a bit of fucking humility and gratitude and inner strength.
not this little bitch though. the more arrogant and in love with yourself, the better!
I fucking hope that the friends and family of his rape victims show up at one of his gigs and really mess those expensive new teeth up. the ones that you're so proud of jonny, in the saddest, most pathetic misdirected pride I've ever seen
I mean congratulations, you absolutely deserve praise and respect for having your girlfriend buy you fucking dentures like a fucking old man after you rot them out of your own ugly fucking head by being a grotty, worthless waste of space
big tough guy, so tough he gets women to pay for him and put him up because he's too fucking useless to be able to function in the world without his twisted tea, his heroin, and his mommy-girlfriend.
Nailed it. Guy doesn't have the depth of character or self-awareness needed to get clean and stay that way. He's basically a child, and the only people who find him attractive are either woefully naive or just as stunted.
The man's in his THIRTIES, ffs, and his social media reads like the rantings of a wannabe teen gangbanger.
Personally, I hope no one buys tickets to his gigs so he can't line up better ones later. >>484231
WTF, anon? A two second google search "snake salmonella" or "lizard salmonella" would have spared you looking like a dumbass here.
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Possible new milk. Why is Taylor deleting some of her old videos??
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I wonder who’s watching her heard of animals
I'm super curious about this too! Someone should tweet that guy and ask which videos are gone.
I swear she had one called something like "setting up a betta tank with things around my house" which is gone now, but I might just be misremembering the title.
The video where she sets up a tank with extra parts she actually makes it for a betta sorority, but then had to address all the comments/criticisms about how betta sororities aren't the most humane/etc. I went to go find that video and definitely looks like that's one of them that was deleted. My guess is she's trying to avoid people digging up receipts of her not listening to advice/expert opinion when it comes to setting up her tanks, yet she keeps up her videos about her frog's butt falling out, her seahorse abortion, her almost killing her axolotl, etc??
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Just watched that video and I know it's old but god that tank is a disaster. Bettas like places to hide, especially when you're keeping ill-advised sororities, and that tank has no real hiding spots.
Also, what does the hell does she think "cycled water" water is? Water holds essentially none of the beneficial bacteria, what she should have used is cycled filter media. And we know she didn't use that because she filmed herself putting dry media in the filter. Ugh those poor fish.
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So she admits to “pushing through the pain” of her ~horrible dibilitating illnesses~ (Such a selfless princess!) but she can’t sit up in bed for five minutes to edit jump cuts into her videos. Something that takes 500% less energy than emptying a half dozen 40 gallon (or more) tanks. Something she’s stated in past videos takes 4+ hours (months ago, back when she only had about 16 pets not counting the fish tanks.)
That’s totally believable. It’s like she can’t decide if she wants to be this tough hospital patient who’s a fighter and pushes through unimaginable pain to do what’s expected of her, or that guy from Spongebob whining about glass bones and paper skin.
It’s a joke she reacts like this with any “hate” she sees about herself, when clearly looking for it, and she’s a 20 year old-talentless-YouTube~wannabe~star (1mil subs isn’t stardom imo) how would she act from any criticism she should recieve if she became some sort of ‘model’?
Clearly this is all stemming from her being a complete narcissist, and anything to get forms of flattery/reassurance from her stans
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Sounds like the pot calling the kettle black to me
((Tweet was in reference to Mary Louise Parker))
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Oh my god is this fan actually admitting that if Taylor wanted chinchillas, they would get them???? "If Taylor would consider getting one I want one"???? This is exactly the behaviour that she is promoting and it is so wrong.
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she posted this just now, i think it'll get deleted
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The first time she’s actually somewhat tweeted about Jonny’s music or “career”
Also quick sage but where the hell do her pupils go in all of her pictures now? Her before picture her pupils are huge but in every picture she posts now they’re basically nonexistent
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But will there really or is this gonna get deleted too?
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don't get fooled m8
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so did she wake up at 3am to do a full face of makeup or just stay up the entire night?
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God, both of them are such narcissists.
Oh my god she is such a fucking moron. I literally cannot believe that she acts like such the aquarium expert, it makes me sick to my stomach.
Jesus christ Taylor
The joke seems to have gone over your head, friend.
Really bad extensions at that.
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Looking at older pictures of her you can immediately tell she just looks different now. In her latest selfies she just looks really rough, tired and probably drugged. Her extensions somehow look worse and unkept ? And her lips of course look absolutely ridiculous and ugly. I know she‘s been getting lip injections for a while now but atm it looks even worse than usually.
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She seriously needs to get her money back from whoever maimed her lips. I feel like tentacles are about to sprout out from them.
Anyone know if they'll eventually go back to their original shape or if she's stuck with that nightmare forever?
She’s gonna ruin her hair even more if she doesn’t take care of her shit extensions.
Her hair looks like straight up dreadlocks, you have to take care of your extensions the way Jonny took care of his old teeth, to get your extensions to look like that
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This is what her lips remind me of
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More like a bratz doll
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It’s not sad, it’s called “people are being responsible and usually don’t have the time or disposable incime to take care of a lot of animals or persue hobbies until they’re retired”
But our special snowflakes gotta remind us all how quirky she is. Though, at the rate she spends money, I doubt she’ll have the disposable income when she’s older.
Once her YouTube career flops… oh dear.
There is no way she is going to be able to support that many animals with no job, especially if she has made no investments at the moment. I doubt even her parents help would be sufficient.
She’s only 20 so let’s not pretend like her whole life is ruined financially, but not going to college and (barely) putting her effort into a YouTube career that has been well documented to not be sustainable long-term (ie. people start to lose popularity once they’re no longer young and attractive) definitely isn’t a smart way to start out.
Especially with her spending habits and the fact that she has to care for 20+ animals in addition to regular bills, so it’s probanly hard for her to really save up any money either.
I don't see her "youtube career" going any further than what it is right now.
If she wanted to pursue an education, she'll inevitably have to rehome several of her animals because she won't have time for them.
If she wanted to get a job outside youtube, same thing.
The only way her channel is still relevant is because she got yet another animal and shat out a mediocre video about it. She can only do so much with her level of experience and expertise on animal care. Sure, she may not have ruined the rest of her life's finances, but she's sure as shit being incredibly stupid by not investing her money on things that actually matter.
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More I brushed tangled hair and weird arm pose supposedly showing her burn but seems to be a whole lot more about her tattoo she’s obsessed with putting in almost every photo
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Holding that poor kitten with those nails again. Also making herself the unnecessary focus of every single animal photo she posts, she so obsessed with herself it’s ridiculous
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Oh god this is going to be bad
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99% sure she won’t, don’t waste your breath.
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Spoiler for anyone who doesn’t want to watch the video:
The first half is just Taylor giving really vague lipservice without going into much detail so you can tell she really didn’t do research nor gives a shit. Stuff like “they’re such… good dogs, it’s not the dog—it’s the people. It’s the mean people who made the dog fight” while interjecting a video from Dodo and still picture that she got off Google.
The second part is about two minutes of her going to a pound to see Pits (complete with unneccearily emotional music), including an account from Taylor that’s ~totally 100% real~ where she said people off camera ~totally~ we’re super scared, giving her a very convenient narrative for her video.
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Also unnecceasry clip at the end of her buying things to donate to give to the shelter, which…okay.
Not knocking on her for donating stuff but… Milkbones? Really? You’d think our dog expert would know how bad those are. I once worked at a pet store where this lady brought her box back because it was INFESTED with bugs. They’re also loaded with BHA and sugar.
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If fifteen minutes of Taylor rambling about nothing w.o any actual facts or research other than vague charts and photos she ripped off Google is enough to convince her fans to adopt an animal, I’m convinced they’re all brain dead.
Yeah, felt like I was listening to a really obnoxious 7 year old ramble about a subject they know very little about. She tries to sound authoritative and intelligent but it's just a sloppy, bumbling mess.
T puts so much time and money into superficial horseshit but refuses to apply herself in any way that would make her a better person or pet owner.
But she and Jonny are GOALS, amirite? /s>>486552
She basically admitted she's only addressing this because it's a response to a viral tweet. She's always on the lookout for animal-related tweets from famous people or #trending topics that can put her in the public eye. She's not even subtle about it.
She totally made this video because it's trendy, yeah.
Also a good, responsible video would have been showing that pitbulls might be under adopted due to stigma, and then explaining reasons why she couldn't adopt one (like living in an apartment and not having energy to train/walk a dog) but showing she cared by doing something actually useful like sponsoring pitbulls at shelters to encourage qualified adopters to pick those dogs. Instead of this bullshit mess lol.
Her lisp is so fucking horrible to listen to. Get some speech therapy, this fucking thot.
Also this stupid ass video.
I’m not arguing over technical shit, I’m pointing out none of what you say actually makes any sense. Dog aggression and human aggression are completely different things, just because an animal is trained to fight other animals doesn’t mean it’ll fight every human it sees.
Your reasoning is as baseless as Taylor’s video.
Yeah you are. STFU.
>If a pit locks down on you you're not getting it off without some serious injuries.
This is a fact, no one's talking shit about lock jaw so stop getting triggered
Sage for cancer anon.
How about all of you stop with the retarded in-fighting. >>486687
it looks like you’re equally triggered
over it if youre gonna waste your fucking time replying to someone who dropped the argument over an hour ago. Shut the fuck up and don’t add to the in-fighting.
It's pretty much inferred… so stop responding? You've added 0 to this conversation. Even the autist, for as wrong as they were were contributing.
Pitbulls have large mouths -> They have a hugely powerful bite -> They bite and hold.
Biting and holding creates a more dangerous bite. This is key to why they're a dangerous breed.
This is also why they shouldn't be owned by most people. Folks defending or arguing over schematics of 'lock jaw' are only adding to the problem Taylor is creating.
To any triggered
anon in this thread with a pitbull, buy a fucking different dog next time and you won't have people calling out your shit breed.(derailing)
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>Pitbulls have large mouths -> They have a hugely powerful bite -> They bite and hold.
>Biting and holding creates a more dangerous bite. This is key to why they're a dangerous breed.
>This is also why they shouldn't be owned by most people. Folks defending or arguing over schematics of 'lock jaw' are only adding to the problem Taylor is creating.
Has some good info on why pits are so dangerous and on increase in dog attacks from pits in recent years.
Taylor didn't do any research but that's clear from her ramblings and trying to justify the 'nanny dog' story.
I bet she didn't credit the account for using their photo? Can't you get in trouble / your video taken down because of that? >>486560
100% She only made this video because her half ass tweet about pit bulls went kind of viral, like when she made that video about the wheelchair fish because her tweet of it went viral, and took all the credit and exposure from news reporters etc even though it was her friend that had helped the fish
Her desperation to put her tattoo in every photo is eventually going to pay off. It has been badly done (lines too close/too much detail for size) & in a year or two, it is just going to look like a fucking squiggly blob.
She has enough money to splurge on 'designer' animals, but not enough to actually get a good tattoo artist? Probably went to her bf's one, considering the amount of shitty tattoos he has.
Yea.. A really ''good'' study.. Two breeds, pitbull and rottweilers..
Rottweiler is a breed. Correct.
Pitbull is not a breed.. Its something you describe all bully breeds with.
So it's not weird that they are responsible for that many dog attacks. Since like 10 different breeds can be described as 'Pitbulls'.
And in 2016 there were an estimate of 78 million dogs in the U.S. With 4.5 million dog bites. Thats only 5,7%. And only 41 were fatal.
Pit bull is a breed. It is technically the American Pit Bull Terrier. The problem is that APBTs look a lot like a few different breeds, such as AmStaffs, American bulldogs, and other bully breeds. Because of this, a LOT of different breeds get called/reported as pits both correctly and incorrectly, and this throws all the reporting on attacks off. My dog was accused of being part pit many times despite the fact that he was a ridgeback/basenji cross. He had no bully breed in him at all, but if he had ever attacked anyone, someone probably would have called him a pit mix because he had short hair and a muscular build.
sage for semantics/derailing/no milk
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Ugh JC is the most disgusting thing I have ever heard or seen. All his Instagram stories are really embarrassing, he acts like a kid of 4 y/o.
Btw, Taylor stop hiding your hideous face, it's fun to look. We already know how ugly you are without make up.
Since she made that tweet making fun of people for believing she was on drugs because she didn't wear make up, she hide her face on all JC stories.
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Another dog you can abandon, good idea Taylor.
* as she abandons yet another dog
It's important to keep informed on the topic, or you'll look just as dumb as Taylor does when she spouts myths that even pibble moms know isn't true.>>486558
This is exactly what I fear, people getting a dog because of it's status symbol and not because it's a good fit. This is how pit bull type dogs got so fucked in the first place.>>486607
Most of the dogs labeled as pit bulls in the shelter are not American Pit Bull Terriers, which I'm assuming you are referring to, and dogs that are not labeled as APBTs may very well have APBT in them, especially when we are talking about shelter dogs who have unknown backgrounds. No animal on earth has a locking jaw, at least not that we have discovered yet. There are many breeds that are more dangerous to people not just because of size but because of genetic wariness towards strangers. No one should be adopting a dog based on it's appearance, but when it comes to shelter dogs and mutts it is truly a gamble. You can't really argue based on breed when it comes to mutts at shelters being mutts don't conform to a breed standard, instead a focus should be more put on the fact that people are now aiming to get a dog based on it's looks instead of it's personality.>>486770
The legal definition of pit bull in america is the American Pit Bull Terrier, the American Staffordshire Terrier, the Staffordshire Bull Terrier and the American Bulldog, Any mix of these breeds, or any dog that looks like it could be a mix of those breeds. So a pure bred American Bulldog is also a pit bull. While breed fanciers want to bring pit bull back to meaning the APBT, unfortunately the media and the law took a different route. Sure, pit bull can mean APBT, but it can also mean a variety of different breeds.
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Honestly that’s not even that impressive of a lineup. If she wanted a solid tattoo by a “celebrity artist” she should’ve used Oliver Peck in Dallas, TX. Or literally half of the artists in San Antonio can tattoo better than Romeo.
Sage for off topic
>>487446>guess she's irrelevant after all lol.
putting aside our dislike for her, can we honestly say she's a youtube celebrity?
I mean back then a million subs was impressive, but nowadays it's kind of starter level.
Especially because it took a year for her to reach a million.
I understand where you're coming from but you can advocate for something without doing/needing the thing.
Not to mention that she couldn't keep a pit bull in her tiny apartment, and especially because she has kittens which the pit bull may not like or vice versa.
Plus if she does truly struggle with fatigue/tiredness like she claims, how is she gonna handle exercising a pit bull of all breeds.
Eh, I have EDS and most of mine are fine.
I can't have my scars tattooed over without the ink bleeding into them badly though. That's caused by the type of scarring EDS causes.
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I literally just found that ad. If it's the same snake, I am disgusted at her thinking it's okay to buy a snake and then lie about it for attention and to look like a "good person". These snakes are identical
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someone called taylor out and now she's trying to say that its all by ~chance~
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You were right! Glad I tweeted her from my shitty account from high school, her obsessive fans are already defending her about it.
I'm SO SURE she COINCIDENTALLY found this snake, just like she HAPPENED to find Ghost (and didn't deny she got him off craigslist here lol.)
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I guess the girl either lied to her or lied on craigslist about why she rehomed the snake?
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Not "everyone" is, Taylor, but you are.
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Ohhhhh man this girl really went here. I am trying to be quite nice when voicing my concerns about going from zero to eleven(?) Snakes in less than a year when these animals can live for thirty years and THIS GIRL TELLS ME TO DO MY RESEARCH? I've been keeping reptiles since I was 14, try again! (Also I realize it's pretty easy to figure out my account from this screen shot but I don't really care anymore)
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I'm gonna be blocked lmao. or drunk rapist jonny is going to @me(no1curr)
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Aww sounds like Taylor’s upset about being a liar on the internet and now needs her addict boyfriend to cuddle her
It's sick that she's pretending to be indignant when she has repeatedly lied about taking a 5 week old kitten away from its mother for no reason other than her own entitlement. Nevermind that she lied even BEFORE getting Ghost. She tried to pass off another backyard breeder purchase as an adoption, but too many fans found the CL listing for her to get away with it.
Even if the corn snake incident ends up being some crazy coincidence, how is it surprising that people are suspicious of yet another "adoption" that has a corresponding CL ad? Girl has an established pattern of lying and putting her desires before the well-being of her animals.
Tay's made nothing but trash decisions from day one. Throwing her "teacup" chihuahua away because she couldn't be arsed to train it, keeping her geckos in filth, treating her snakes like fashion accessories, not quarantining her fish, handling her hedgies like they're toys (bonus points for turning them into ACTUAL toys), and dating a denture-wearing druggy rapist while refusing to stand up to him when he insults her own parents or shits on the women he's abused…
Outside of a Hills Have Eyes upbringing, how the hell does someone's soul get this fuck-ugly so quickly? Jonny has had 3 decades to marinate in his own filth so I understand how he became the steaming pile we know today, but how does Taylor become such a perfect match for him at only 20?
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What evidence has she presented that shows her care is superior to someone who has been keeping animals 10+ years? Or an actual rescue facility? Having a lot of pets /= knows what she’s talking about
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Just throwing this out there. Two days ago, she was called out on Instragram for not adopting her reptiles. Then, the day later she just happens to adopt one !? Seems like she bought it so she could make up this story.
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Eh, to play devil's advocate, people are ridiculous about snakes. Have you ever been to an educational reptile show? When they pull the snakes out, probably half the audience makes faces/goes EUUGHHH. People are really, really irrationally afraid of snakes.
But Taylor is a pathological liar, and just bought the snake off CL. Her constant stories about running into people who give her free animals are so absurd. I mean, even if she did just happen to run into this person at the pet store, I highly doubt they would go from wanting $200 to giving their snake away.>>488172
Dude, sadly people legit believe those stories idiots tell about snakes escaping from their enclosures and getting in bed with their owners to size them up to eat them, or wild snakes chasing after them, etc etc. Although I don't think it actually happened in this case, someone's family freaking out and demanding they get rid of a snake for stupid reasons is totally plausible. Maybe the only plausible part of her story, kek
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How does this idiot really believe that these are not the same snake. Especially when T ADDMITTED to it being the same exact fucking snake. How stupid are these “fans” honestly
She'd probably end up getting some kind of husky, or "wolfdog" because she is so damn edgy. And because she looovvveesss GOT, right fellow nerds? /s
And I bet she would do this without a single days worth of research, because then she would know how fucking difficult they are and how high energy the breeds need to be. Not to mention she is in SOUTHERN TEXAS. She'd end up flooding the shelters once again with another unwanted dog.
Kind of OT, but I can definitely see this actually happening in the future. Just because they're pretty, y'know.
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Apparently corn snakes no longer have teeth
I can definitely see her getting one (which is ironic considering she spoke up about impulse buys with the blue tangs during Finding Dory.) Funny that you bring that up because wolfdog hybrids are actually illegal to own in California.
It doesn’t matter if she gets one or not though because hedgehogs and axolotls are also illegal to own there, so if Taylor is still seriously considering moving out to Cali she either doesn’t give a shit about the laws or doesn’t care. I think some things are ownable via a permit but who in their right mind would give her one?
i think it's extremely likely she will rehome most of her pets in 3-5 years. or as soon as she will want to do anything with her life. if impulse buying the animals wasn't a problem for her, i suspect giving them away won't be either.
or do you seriously think she will be still be caring for her 10+ snakes when she's 40?
Not necessarily. Let me be clear I hate people who breed teacup dogs, but my old boss has one that’s 13 years old. But his dog also nearly died when it slipped down a flight of stairs, so they’re extremely fragile even if they’re lucky enough not to have health problems.
She should honestly get a Greyhound. She can get the asspats of having “rescued” a former racing dog, and those dogs can sleep for 16-22 hours a day. All she’d have to do is feed it and walk it and it wouldn’t get in the way of her aesthetic she’s got going.
Ferrets, sugar gliders, degus, gerbils, and other animals are also illegal to possess in CA. Plenty of people keep these animals and are fairly open about having them.https://www.wildlife.ca.gov/living-with-wildlife/restricted-pet-species
They can be brought into the state quite easily. If your vehicle is not searched upon entry or if you enter on a road without a checkpoint, no one is the wiser.
Sage for blogpost: When I moved here with my hedgehog, our moving truck was searched at the border checkpoint on I-80 and she was found. She was held at the border and we were instructed to return and surrender her in Nevada within 48 hours or she would be euthanized. My ex looked at a map and found a road without a checkpoint and brought her in.
When she needed vet care I found two vets to care for her. They were not concerned with her illegal status and treated her as they would any other animal.
i think she'd either get a shiba inu (for those meme points) or some ultra rare exotic sounding breed like the norwegian lundehund or elkhound.
so far it sounds like she's actually smart enough to not get a dog while she's living in the apartment. and she seriously should not get even the smallest and most lazy docile dog. she obviously doesn't do well with a pet she cannot ignore.
She said once her favorite breed is the Shiba, but I don’t think she could stand their god awful barking. They sound like hell creatures and it very quickly doesn’t sound “cute” anymore. Poor thing would be given up so fast. She wouldn’t do well with any high energy breed because unless they have a way to burn off energy they’re going to tear up the house, and she definitely isn’t going to play with it or take it on long walks if she didn’t care about her dog to the point it bonded with her brother instead. A lazy dog is the only thing she could take care of long term.>>488345
Even if people sneak it (and the majority of people outside of law are okay with you) you having the animals there is a potential risk of them being found out—especially with her being a Youtuber who’s an idiot and takes her animals out in public because she’s obsessed with being seen as interesting.>>488356
Most likely. I don’t think she’d have the patience to go through an application process either, regardless if she qualified. She ~has~ to have her new pet now or she’ll just ~die~
Shibas are incredibly attention demanding and also very noisy.
I wouldn't put it past her because she knows next to nothing about dogs, but I highly doubt she'd go for that.
Why is it bad to handle hot snakes like accessories (not that handling reptiles like accessories is okay but why in particular these)? Are they aggressive? I don't even know what a hot snake is so I'm guessing it has something to do either with their habitat or their temper.
Sorry for derailing.
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What the hell does that even mean? She’s so vague when talking about her -trauma- which doesn’t fit her “look at me, look at me” attitude at all.
Not saying people who have privleged home lives can’t be depressed but you’re 20 Taylor calm down lol
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Some of the wording in this tweet hurt my brain. But seriously, is she now trying to say not only did this girl supposedly go from wanting 200$ to finding taylor in a pet store and giving the snake to her for free because taylor is the snake savior (obviously), but is she also trying to say that this girl is a liar and is the one lying about the snake? Maybe it's true, but I still find the story of this girl finding taylor in a pet store really odd.
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My all-time favourite reptile of mine (not like I like picking favourites) is named Frank so this kind of ruined my night. I really wanted to make videos of him in the future (he's an…interesting reptile….so he might get views) but I'd probably get accused of copying her name
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You should be doing this regularly and shouldn’t need to be applauded for this. But knowing her fans she will be…. called her out for this on twitter can’t wait for the stans responses to me telling me how mean I am for being rude to queen tay
To be quite fair, kittens are easier to find for free if they're not purebreeds.
The reason she got those kittens to begin with was most likely because of Jonny. He had gotten cats with Chelsea before, so this was him repeating a pattern. Kind of a "to show our love for each other" type of deal, hence the pictures of him with the cat and calling them her little family.
As for where, I don't believe for a second she adopted them from PetCo or how they were found at a construction site. She seems to go out to the mall and browse through animal stores, so she probably saw someone giving away kittens and decided to get them. Or maybe even from Craigslist, like she's done with the ragdoll and the corn snake.
this is like the fakest & dumbest idea she could have come up with. just why? its so clearly made up and its not funny. if someone with actual relevance like fcking Jay Z did something like this it would be hysterical. but this is a girl who is famous for holding snakes on instagram. who the fuck would recognize her ever. let alone who the fuck would buy her signature.
the fact that she thinks this made up story is so funny that she needed to post it… wow. being sort of popular on insta really went to her ego like damn.
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Oh my god her next attempt to get famous people to notice her better not be breeding her animals just so she can give them away as gifts.
My feelings on her was just a subtle dislike, but that would turn it into hatred immediately
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How can she seem so innocent sometimes I swear I almost felt bad for her after she responded to me with this
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Think johnny's ex summed up what everyone else was thinking about her posts really.
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Doesnt king of diy have a fish named frank, short for frankenstein? His flowerhorn fish?
All of her fans are giving her props for being so creative lol. Okayyy
I'm sure she's lying about her mental health problems just like her "disability" for attention and sympathy.
She's probably"depressed" from her mom not spending enough money on her.
Oh god. It is so cringey when she use the name of the people she is answering at the end.
She just comes up like a fucking retard since their names are already tag
To be fair, almost anyone in any circumstance is able to get depression/anxiety. Not saying that it just pops up out of nowhere, but given the huge amount of insecurities Taylor seems to have, I would bet that she isn't making up her mental illness. Exaggerate parts? Probably. But it isn't our place to go that far and say she doesn't have anything at all. Why do you think she is dating someone like Jonny and hoarding animals in the first place? It's probably a mix of a really bad coping strategy and narcissism/validation seeking (which her fans give her tenfold as she continues to live like this).
I know some of you will get pissed because of what I just said, but whatever. I know this thread is open to whatever discussion/every discussion is worthy, but that was just my two cents on the subject.
(Sage for blogging, but I've been living with treatment resistant depression and anxiety/ocd for many years. Mental illness is a really complicated ordeal and jumping to conclusions rarely gets you anywhere- at least as far as speculating goes.)
Yea well for someone who has mental health issues, she sure treats her dirty junky boyfriend's exes HORRIBLY and dismisses their mental health problems caused by him. You can sit and stick up for her if you want but the fact remains that if she was in the bad place she constantly claims she is, she would be a bit more sympathetic to Amanda + Chelsea.
Ok thanks for telling us your mental health issues?
I am not sticking up for her, but the fact that anyone can actually have problems like she claims to. She is a disgusting person, of course, I am not denying that. I am simply saying that she might not be lying about this particular thing. Sure, flay me alive for doing so, but if people are going to suggest that someone doesn't doesn't have mental illness when the whole situation isn't taken into account, I'm going to do my best to be the one to speculate objectively.
You are of course right about the dehumanizing treatment to the exes, especially Amanda/Chelsea.
I made sure to separate my own personal experience out, no need to get weirdly passive aggressive about anything, fucker. I happened to have proof to back up the fact that considering this situation objectively- once again, ONLY the fact that she might indeed have real problems (even if she does exaggerate them to hell and back,) -would be a worthwhile thing to do.
My only issue scrutinizing her mental health is her saying she has PTSD implying she got it from experiences with people she dated. But regardless if Jonny is actually abusive to her specifically, how he talks and treats other people should at the very least wig her out more than it does if that’s the case.
I have a friend with PTSD from an alcoholic parent who abused them, and I see how much it affects them, so I tend to loathe anyone who pretends to have it because it makes their condition sound more “tragic” and “unique” since everyone seems to suffer from chronic depression and anxiety nowadays (not saying that in a sacarcasuc way, I know our generation is fucked and under so much stress depression is kind of expected in a lot of cases)
the only mental illness she has is her massive need for attention. that's why she fabricates her illnesses and creates drama constantly. that's why she whored herself out on the internet when she was younger. that's why she has all those animals ffs.
regarding her mental illnesses, she also claims to have PTSD from past abusive relationships while dating fucking jonny craig of all people, and laughing at his past abuse victims. taylor is fucked in the head.
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Quoted Chelsea’s tweets on twitter to Taylor and not a minute later this happened… on to making another new one!
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I’ve been calling her out on this twitter for a month maybe wondering what will get me block and quoting Chelsea’s tweet and showing her how awful she really is is what does it.
Happy to be apart of the club
Talking privately about it like you're his fucking mother isn't going to solve shit.
You never call him out publicly about his annoying tweets.
You keep evading the situation when brought up by blocking people.
Your "not everything you see online is a full story of things" also applies to you lmao.
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Is this the balcony thing she kept saying she didn't have? Lol.
Referring to her making a tweet about a complaint her apartment complex recieved about her. She said the complaint had to have been from a crazy person/ random hater because she doesn't ever have a balcony/ outdoor area.
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This was the original tweet. Saging bc this was in the other thread.
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Also, her fans are already at her service lol.
They're so fucking blind and up her ass they don't even care that Taylor lies over the dumbest shit..these stans have no morals, but then again I can't say I'm surprised considering who they're stabbing.
There's also a girl replying to Taylors tweet asking her to please dm her bc her gecko won't eat and she needs advice… why do these people think Taylor is qualified to give advice. Go to a fucking vet!
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Deleted because I made a mistake. Long time lurker but I think i did it right this time. Sorry guys.
Has no one here ever worked at or with a Petco or other pet store? I am surprised no one has brought this up yet. She said she got her 5 week old kitten from someone getting rid of it in Petco right? You aren't supposed to have cats and dogs under 8 weeks in that store because there's no chance they were able to get their distemper vaccines (booster at 6 weeks, another vac at 8 weeks). If they had distemper, not only can it spread to the animals visiting the store but people can also bring it home to their pets. a 5 week old kitten should have never been touted around there in the first place (granted, not her fault, but makes the story fishy). If any transaction were to happen, even if no money was involved, it would have to be done off of Petco property; animal shops and even shelters are usually really anal about this. The reason being is that if it's done on their property, god forbid something illegal happened (like selling an underage kitten), they could be held partially responsible. I'm not really in the loop about this kitten business so I may be reading into it all wrong, but from what I gather someone was in a Petco showcasing their cat trying to get rid of their underage, unvaccinated, intact, sick kitten. Petco wouldn't be too happy about that.
Unfortunately I know fuck all about herps, I'm more into my mammals and birds, which is probably why I followed her for so long. I didn't know enough to know what she does with her herps are wrong. Funnily enough the second I found her talking about her hedgehogs I realized how dumb she is, as it leaked into a field I actually knew about.>>489326
I'm positive she has a mental illness, the bitch owns 30+ animals at a time. just not a mental illness she'd be willing to admit she has.
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Just wait until one of them drops it’s tail
yeah lol she was all like "ahhHh they drop their tails all the time if u have a crestie and it hasn't dropped its tail wow haha that's crazy"
I bet they dropped them while she was trying to take a photo of them or something
It's actually illegal where she lives to adopt out kittens under 12 weeks.
And there are screenshots of people asking the Facebook group of the adoption agency that puts their kittens in Petco and they confirmed they don't adopt out til 12 weeks.
This. People in this thread acting like you either don't have mental illness, or you do and you're compassionate towards other people who do. That's ridiculous. Mentally ill people can be just as callous about the issue as mentally healthy people.
Mentally healthy people do not hoard animals and date Johnny Craig. Taylor is mentally ill.
Someone being abused in the past does NOT mean that they'll "know better" enough to be freaked out by Johnny's behavior. In fact, it often happens that such behavior is rationalized and normalized by victims of abuse. People get with abusive partners over and over and over again, because it's what they know, or think is normal, or what they deserve. Her not running from JC does NOT mean she was never abused.
It's really fucking obvious that Taylor is deeply unhappy and trying to fill the void with attention, animals, and the lovebomb phase of an abusive relationship. To argue that she's just a bitch is willfully blind. Tho she is a bitch, in addition to being miserable and mentally ill rofl.>>489761
Um… If an animal is "quick to move away when handled"… it means it's thinking "oh no I hate this!". Wtf does she expect them to do, tell her to back the fuck off on Twitter?
Also, subtly implying that she's some animal goddess who can hold them without them being "quick to move away". I'd lol except she's teaching this crap to her impressionable fans. :(
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It was established in a previous thread she was lying about how she got Ghost. She paid a backyard breeder so she could take him from his mother early, then brought the unvacc'd kitten into a pet store just so she could take pics to make it look like she adopted. She's really dedicated to her lies, but too stupid to plan them out well enough to avoid getting caught.
No one is saying she should “know any better” if she was actually abused. She claims to have PTSD over it, and despite being in a similar situation with a person who acts abusive towards other people (regardless if he ever talks to others about it) she should at least be somewhat triggered
, and not laughing about it like “lol he totally isn’t like that you guys you don’t know the whole story”
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I'm embarrassed by her
True mentally healthy people don't hoard animals just because. BUT you can be mentally healthy and have total disregard for animal lives so that you begin hoarding them when that means you get a fuck ton of money because of it.
The only reason she's doing this is to get views and money and stay relevant. Her followers are idiots with the attention span of a fly and would drop her if they didn't constantly have new animals to gawk over.
The Jonny part, I don't know, you can just be an idiot desperate for fame without having mental illness. She's already proven herself to be an idiot countless times so it's not that far off base.
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another tweet she seems to have deleted
I think she means it jumped behind the tank.
TBH I kind of have to give her that one, sometimes fish are impossible to find if they get out. The problem is that her fish did get out, and did she fix the problem by making sure the others can't jump out? Because if she JUST posted about getting a lid I'm guessing no. And IIRC she had a video in which she found two fish inside her filter system. She should have the filter set up so the fish can't get in, and the moment she did a headcount and couldn't find them she the filter should have been the first place she checked, but one had been in there a while.
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Just when I thought she couldn’t be any more of a narc, she retweeted an essay from her fan about how amazing she is
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> “Owning animals can be very pricey and difficult. She on the other hand makes it work”
Yeah that’s because up until five months ago she lived with her parents and even though she had her crappy minimum wage Petco job, I’m sure that was ~her money~ to spend so her mom probably supplemented all her animal supplies for her. At least until her Youtube money came in.
What the hell does having a lot of animals have to do with being ~inspirational~ anyway?
Hours a day… Every 3-4 weeks.
So… Less than anyone else with an actual job.
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Her reply to a guy asking who Taylor is.
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Is the girl his drug dealer?
Oof Taylor, I would not trust
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Found his drug dealers Instagram but none of them follow each other for some reason
Regardless if it's true or not, that is an absolutely shitty essay.
I know the person who wrote this is probably 12 but the lack of creativity is astounding.
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She changed her story, but deleted this one too.
An addict's relationship with their dealer is weirdly close but distant. You see them all the time and talk sometimes about pretty private stuff but you're not actually friends. It's not odd at all for him to be hanging out with her kid but them not be following eachother.
Also, yeah, any addict as bad as Johnny will have MANY dealers, though usually 1 or 2 are the "main" ones. And knowing Johnny's level of dedication toward recovery (aka, none, considering he's drinking, smoking weed, and not participating in any programs), I'm sure he hasn't deleted their numbers/cut them off.
If he actually did forego narcotics after his teeth, I'm sure he bought something else illegally, be it weed or something stronger.
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Is that a bruise on Taylor's wrist????
Sure does look like one… Could just be consensual shenanigans.
…god, the thought of them fucking is pukeworthy. The poor animals, having to witness and hear and smell that. Snakes sort of smell by tasting, and have very good senses of smell. So they probably taste JC's spunk nightly. Those poor babies.
That’s actually fucking disgusting that you think the snakes can taste his “spunk.” How old are you? 13? People have sex, even drug addicts and people with pets.
The bruise could be consensual, but could also be from something else like she banged it, or he hit her. We’ll likely never know, she’s a pathological liar so even if they do break up, she’ll likely spin a lot of things to get as much empathy as she can.
A bruise with an interesting center. And are her outer knuckles bruised? Her entire hand looks swollen.
And why does Nemo need a bandana? Not only a strangulation hazard but it will rub off his fur.
Not 100% certain it's a bruise just because every shadow in the pic has a sickly yellow-green tinge to it. ex: her arm near Nemo's mouth and her own mouth and neck. Ditto with her covers. Unlike the rest of the yellow spots, he wrist does have that splotchy look so it could def be a legit bruise, but it could also just be the crappy cam and poor lighting. >>490312
lol Taylor is as good at animal husbandry as this chick is at writing and critical thinking.
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Oh….great. What are we at now? 25 animals?
More.. if you include fish.
9 snakes (am I missing one or two?)
3 skinks (one blue tongue and two crocodiles)
3 geckos (two crested and one leopard)
1 pacman frog
plus new gecko and NUMEROUS FISH
Wonder if she got a leachy… those can be very expensive.
You are right I forgot:
"Aaaand a druggy boyfrieeeeeend"
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Surely she can't keep this up forever? She has to stop this eventually. She's going to run out of time for them, room for them, and eventually for real
be considered an unhealthy animal hoarder. You'd think now that she has a boyfriend she wouldn't have to fill a void as much as before. It seems like she's getting worse? For how much she whines about her invisible illnesses and not being able to even edit videos sometimes, she sure has no problem getting more pets to have to WORK to take care of.
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Do we know if this could potentially be about Taylor? I could totally see her doing this.
I agree. I’ve kept reptiles for 7 years and i know that these are way too delicate for her. One of them is going to die within the next year for sure. She’s going to try to take too many aesthetic pictures and end up fucking everything up.
Also, i give it a year before Jonny and Taylor are either broken up or engaged
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Speaking of Em throwing subtle shade at Taylor, there’s also this.
Though, this could be referring to any of the top 10 Pet YouTubers atm—who are all young, attractive, white 20-somethinga with 15+ animals each. Em does it because it’s her job, everyone else does it because they equate owning a lot of animals with being interesting (which is why all of the have to emphasize how many animals they have in video titles)
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Looks like emzotic meant someone else.
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> “Worked so hard on these”
> the packaging is written in comic sans and the plushies themselves are generic but with cringey sayings on them
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What does she even mean “worked hard on these”?!?
The design isn’t unique so it’s not as if she drew the concept art or anything, and her management team Studio 71 or whatever it’s called…….she sells her merch through them, so it’s obvious that they’re the ones making the product. And since she works through them, she doesn’t have to manage her own website/shipments/orders.
She likes to pretend that she works harder than she does lol…. everything is thanks to her hard work….. when it takes her two weeks to edit a ten minute video
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But did taylor "research endlessly"??? Probabaly not. Probabaly googled satanic leaf tailed geckos the moment she saw a picture of one (like yesterday maybe?) And read one caresheet. The fact that she bought a breeding group concerns me too. Why not just one? Is she going to try to breed her two croc skinks and these guys as well? I seriously hope she stays far away from breeding. Especially with the uroplatus, I really don't think she'll be able to handle these guys for long.
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Is this the snake of CL or another one? The story doesn't match up (it was a grown up woman snake)
Why does he still pretending like he owns pets? Probably Taylor is the one taking "care" of them and he just fuck around with them
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She literally did nothing to deserve the life she has. She literally has boobs and too much money for her own good.
Right? I feel like she could've done way more than just saying "this animal meant so much to ME", but rather giving out fun facts about each animal. But that would require actual work.
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What’s the fourth animal?
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I agree so much, anon. I really want a ball python, and I could afford one, but I don't because I don't think I could handle feeding it. Also, I feel like I don't know enough about their care, even though I could probably do a better job than Taylor. Anyone who spends five minutes on Google probably can.
I don't know if I'd call Em a hypocrite so much as I'd call her two faced. She doesn't quite strike me as the girl who would tell you to your face that your eyeliner looks pretty and then behind your back, laugh at your lack of eyeliner skills, but she's definitely the type that would vague tweet about you and then swear it's not about you.
Didn't she recently get her nails done? If so is this picture from a while ago?
It wouldn't surprise me if she was impulse buying animals and only showing them at a later date to avoid backlash for buying too many all in one go.
Yeah, i'm more of a fish tank person myself & her fish tanks are completely underscaped also (and wrongly stocked but whatever). Nothing more fun than creating a tangle of plants in a natural environment that brings out the animals behaviour to its fullest.
Also, has anyone else noticed that she has stopped putting up care videos? she is backlogged like 2000 animals. The people who follow her on Youtube & no social media have no idea whats going on i'm sure. Lmao
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Three geckos and one bearded dragon.
Plus a new mystery animal?
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-10 for stupid name
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oh god I hope not>>491680
I'm going to puke. Is he 17?
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Her obsessed fans sure treat her with respect but she still ignores their desperate plea to get her attention because they impulse bought animals she recommended……..
Also not a herp keeper but looked this up and read some forums. They don't come back well from dehydration and once they're doing poorly, they almost always die.
They need low temperatures and folks have lost them over AC units in their homes screwing up. The biggest issue brought up is keepers not having an adequate cold room. (Does Taylor? Doubt it.) Temperatures above 72-75 are bad for them and humidity needs are fairly high. (Almost always easier to keep a low humidity animal than a high humidity one.) Almost all of them are wild caught so if she read any care sheets, she knows that, and they often carry parasites.
I know very little about reptiles but like…those are gonna die for sure.
Literally the first result in Google for their care emphasizes not to handle them
Taylor blatantly doesn't give a shit about the well being of her animals
So far she’s not as much of an idiot as Tyler Ruggee getting an African Gray. He grew up with a Severe Macaw his parents had (that hates him, so I doubt he ever tried handling them) and his Sun Conure he raised. I don’t know who the hell adopted it out to a 20 year old who has zero experience with large birds.
I think he says it’s in its 30s but those can live well into their 80s (though the consensus seems to be they live longer in the wild) so he’s going to have it for the majority of his life. So at least Taylor’s not that much of an impulse idiot.
birds are definitely harder to keep than most herps imo, though there are definitely exceptions (see: these leaf geckos smh)
but most snakes don't need much beyond the right temp/humidity, some hides, and food 1x a week or even less frequently depending on the species/size. they're also not loud.
also praying that taylor never gets a bird, jfc, theyre basically toddlers with wire cutters strapped to their faces
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At least people are finally learning. No angry follower responses to this one…
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Reading through the comments on her Instagram photo of one of the new geckos is painful. For every comment calling her out there are 5+ fans jumping in to defend her. I think there are at least 30+ “but it’s her job” comments.
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"Doesn't handle her Pacman frog?"
In her video she literally picked it up and shoved her finger in it's mouth
Her decisions on wild caught vs captive bred animals are entirely based around "is it cute? do i want it?" rather than any actual rationale. Pretty sure several of her saltwater fish aren't even available captive bred, period.
So I guess she considers herself an ~expert level reptile keeper~ now, with the leaftail geckos. After keeping almost solely beginner friendly species of maybe a year. Bluetongues, ball pythons, milksnakes, kingsnakes, cornsnakes, cresties, beardies…all beginner friendly.
Other herpanons, am I correct that the only more advanced reptile she's kept is her croc skinks? And we all know how well she does with those… Bottom line, it's a huge fucking jump. God help us, who knows what else she'll decide to buy now that she considers herself an expert. My bet is something like pygmy chams are on the way.
She did basically the same thing with seahorses and look how THAT turned out. Ugh.
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Comments on her Instagram post
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1. She’s not that smart
2. I get that she’s obsessed with drama and talked about getting a tattoo of a bad review left on her apartment complex about her, but that’s retarded
She's only been on Youtube for less than two years iirc so, doubtful.
Also, was the pic of her handling Mara from way after she got them, making it 100% unecessary handling rather than "putting in enclosure" or some other bullshit excuse? I mean, she handles her crocodile skinks all the time, and handles snakes before they settle in, so it seems like she thinks all the advice to NOT handle certain animals is just bullshit that doesn't apply to an ~animal goddess~ like her. Not like its the consensus of countless professionals with decades of experience.
Oh btw speaking of animals she shouldn't really handle but does anyway, is her tarantula still alive?
At least the tarantula can defend itself, unlike all the other animals where she interprets not trying to get away or bite as them being 100% cool with handling. Her thing of "it's okay to hold them in their enclosures!" is the most bullshit self serving logic I have EVER heard. Just because they can't jump off your hand and fall to their deaths, doesn't mean they're not scared and stressed by the gigantic creature hunting them down and grabbing them.
Also, I checked the time stamps, and yeah, she got the geckos yesterday afternoon and the picture of her handling Mara was from this morning. So yeah, not even the excuse of "I had to put her in the enclosure!"
…unless, of course, they sat in cups all night because she didn't set up their enclosures until after she got them. Which is totally possible with her. Ugh.
I've got budgies, and while their messes aren't as big as some other species, I still have to vacuum my room once or twice a day and change papers constantly, even in their flight cage. Not to mention when it's molting season x2 a year, or when they decide to fling their vegetables/sprouts/food everywhere, or shred a toy, etc.
Birds are a ton of work regardless of species IMHO, even parakeets. (Which there are also dozens of species of, some of which are really fragile.)
If her skin is so fragile from EDS she wouldn't be able to handle bird bites either. They are painful and damaging.
(Sorry for blogging, but I REALLY do not want her to get a bird!! There is no way she could handle any, save for maybe a dove pair, but even then we know how bad her husbandry is so I'd rather not see that either. I agree with all of you, birds = really bad scenario for Taylor.)
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Thought I’d drop this here
I only have two parakeets atm. I have two of those black nets that you put on the outside of the cage to keep the mess contained (though the net still gets seeds and feathers stuck in it so picking stuff out of those is a nightmare in itself)
I also have have hamster potties in the two highest traffic corners of the cage to catch the brunt of the bathroom business, but I still have to clean my parakeets cage twice a week. A full week and trying to swap out the trays and deep clean gets stuff everywhere.
She’d never get a bird because they DEMAND attention. She couldn’t just plop it in its cage and take it out when it’s convenient.
omg, its beautiful. tears were shed.
Forreal though, some animals can learn that handling is safe and okay. Some animals just can't/don't. I think Taylor thinks that because you can tame a snake or a bearded dragon or whatever, you can tame ANY reptile if you're ~special~ and ~sensitive~ enough. Some just do not work that way and rather than trying to be the 1 in a million with a leaftail gecko who "likes" handling, it's best to just leave them the fuck alone.
I think her behavior on this issue really shows the kind of person she is – the rules don't apply to her, and her excuses/rationalizations make anything and everything okay. It's all worth the risk of stressing her animals potentially to death for those sweet insta likes. And if she read this, she would say "I can tell when they're stressed!" …which is either 100% lie or delusion.
Also, my father has had love birds for about 11 years, and they have lived around his cat for all that time.
They're constantly spitting seeds out of their cage, tweeting, or mating which makes a horrible flapping noise. There's no way she'd be able to cope with one.
Especially since she has cats who she loves oh-so-much. As I said, his birds have been around his cat for years, and the cat still tries to reach up and rock their cage. She's old, so I can't imagine how hard kittens would try to get to (probably baby, knowing her) new birds they'd probably never seen before.
And, as a previous anon said, she wouldn't be able to take super "aesthetic", "edgy" selfies with them lol.
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Why is she always trying to justify it with number of animals? Yes, you can have 30 pets and take amazing care of them. The point is, she doesn’t. It has nothing to do with numbers.
She's probably only keeping him because the other one died under her care when she shouldn't have bought it so if she got rid of him people would probably call her out for it lmao.
But to be fair, she is a total dumbass who doesn't know when she's wayyyyyy past her limit.
The fact she has 30 is the problem… if she can't even edit videos for what, 1 hour, when it's just sitting down and clicking, then how is she supposed to clean all those enclosures? Or feed them all?
She just pointed out why everyone is worried. How does it even get to the point where one has 30 animals if they're constantly complaining about flare ups and mental issues?
She's such an ignorant twat.
And fuck yes, she is the devil. To her animals at least.
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Reposting because I keep accidentally leaving my name in stuff. But I commented and she replied back saying that the geckos are in a completely different room because it's too warm in her pet room for them. So that's good I guess?
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Here come Taylor’s weekly “I’m the only one who’s ever got hate on the internet EVER” pity party, lol….
What kind of absolute nutcase retweets tweets from her fans defending her?
if these toddler fans of hers actually saw the proof that she paid nearly $700 to take Ghost away from his mom 3 weeks earlier than is safe, would they STILL defend her like this?
nvm. bet they would. they don't live in reality.
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Comparing herself to Steve Irwin lol…. bitch sit down
A lot of the things on his Croc Hunter show we’re taking it a bit too hard for the sake of entertainment imo, but the man had 40+ years of experience and came from a family of animal lovers, he at the very least knew his shit.
if so many accs online have way more animals than her and dont get nearly as much hate maybe she should sit down and consider why?
but sure the problems everyone else not you, taylor.
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You’ll never fucking quit, because that means you’ll have to go back to your minimum wage Petco job because no way are you going to get hired anywhere with no college education or any field experience with animals outside of owning animals from 3ish years
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This must be her favourite way to hold all animals. Pinched between her fingers on their backs.
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Dear Taylor, Coyote Peterson.
Also, there's a difference between having an appreciation for animals and having animals so you can wear them like jewelry.
I called her out for nearly a year on twitter giving her tips and trying to help her animals from being in harms way and she retaliated by basically saying I’m jealous and “it was only for a video!!1! They were safe” (Referring to her gecko RIDING HER SKINK) and a few times after that she blocked me for genuinely trying to make sure she treated her animals right.
TLDR; she hasn’t no right to say no one has genuine concerns bc i voices mine and got blocked and called a hater
Lmfao. More pictures more pictures you've both outdone me.
She NEVER accepts any criticism. She never accepts that shes wrong in the slightest. If she wants to make an improvement on her life she needs to stop having a pity party and actually make some adjustments to her animal keeping e.g. stop holding ur god dam stressed out animals.
I've never met anyone who is SO unwilling to change but yet cries about THE HATERS so much. Maybe actually listen????
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Yeah, no. How about you don't make animal care videos considering you've been keeping these reptiles for less than a year.
her usual M.O. is to make a care video the same day or week she gets a new animal so maybe the snake care vid will be marginally better than her others?
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Or just……ignore them?
It’s one thing if they’re threatening or genuinely harassing you, but people with dissenting opinions or calling you out aren’t “trolls” lol
The only thing blocking nonviolent people does is put you in an echochamber
Even when she accepts criticism (which is never) instead of admitting she was wrong she tries to justify her way of thinking in a way so she’s not COMPLETELY wrong, just MISINFORMED.
Like with her telling the blatant lie about nanny dogs when trying to be smug about pitbulls, when she was called out on it she went “that’s not what I mean! I thought it meant _______!!!!!!!”
Also whenever she does something wrong with animal care, she says that she was “told she could do that!!!!” When any RESPONSIBLE person would double and triple check any advice given to them by strangers in regards to animals they have no experience with.
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Her response to someone telling her to quarantine the geckos. Of course she responds to this one since they happen to be in another room, but she has never quarantined any of her snakes before and won’t respond to the people who tell her she needs to. IMO not quarantining is one of the most dangerous things you can do.
Those black seed-catching nets were never in my arsenal- my cage is too big for them anyways lol. I tend to have success in minimizing mess by using step-in food cups with a perch & everything inside. They have a harder time flinging and scratching their pellets and nutriberries like that haha!
But for real, people seriously underestimate the dedication birds require. Not even dedication, but stamina. If she couldn't finish editing a video for over a week, there is no way she could handle even the easiest bird. /sage for blogging
My mother is a hobbyist rabbit breeder, so not really a full fledged one, but we ALWAYS check on them at least 4 times a day, clean their hutches, etc. With her job on top of it, it's so much work.
Taylor is blatantly not caring for her animals at all, or at least, doing much less than the bare minimum. And it's not like she is busy with a job, since "Youtube is her job" and "taking care of her animals is her job".
If she had a job where she had to do the exact same things as she's supposed to do for them all she would NOT be paid because she doesn't do ANY of it.
Chronic pains and flare ups are not an excuse. She knew what she was getting into. I got a hamster a few months before I became deeply depressed and it caused her to die but I don't consider that an excuse, so I haven't got another pet since then. I made a mistake because I'm a dumb kid… She's an adult, but she acts 12 and refuses to believe anything is her fault, never feeling guilt.
I really hope her animals get taken away from her and rehomed… Usually I'd never wish that upon someone but she doesn't really care about them at all, only about how they're a big part of her fabricated personality.
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So this is a price I found of uroplatus phantasticus from backwater reptiles. Hopefully that's not where she got hers from, they're a horrible place to buy animals from. But nevertheless, she still probably paid around 1k for her geckos
Hope she wouldn’t be too much of an idiot to get a large one like a Macaw. I used to work at a bird sanctuary for rejoined and special needs birds and I moved a bit too fast and spooked a Macaw. I knew enough about bite safety to make sure not to struggle and stayed calm to minimize damage until I could guide him off me, but he still bite straight through my epidermis and drew a lot of blood.
Parakeets do the least amount of damage in comparison to any bite but they can still draw a bit of blood if you test them enough. I doubt she’d take the time to hand tame it either. Just carry it around in her first because “it won’t stay on my shoulder!!!!”
This really pissed me off.
Taylor you SHOULD be crying. Not because people correct you. But because your animals are SUFFERING. You KILLED a kitten because you chose to take care of it when you had no idea what you were doing along with locking it in the bathroom, instead of leaving it to an expert so they had the best chance. You have several animals that are now deformed or injured because you treat them like toys instead of living beings. They have had countless diseases and parasites because you don't adequately care for any of them. And you ABANDONED 3 dogs and many other animals because you don't give a shit after you buy something new.
You would never quit although you fucking should. All you care about is fame and money and will step all over others to get that. You have no education, no friends, no experience to fall back on once you're washed up. I hope things turn around and YOU start suffering for all the terrible things you've done to your family and animals.
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Apparently she's not overwhelmed. And yet she can't even sit down for an hour to edit her videos.
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Oh my god he's literally 16. MY FIRST HICKEY!! Stfu.
Because we're all speculating that if she decided to branch out into birds, (no pun intended,) that all shit would hit the fan lmao
Because birds are hard and complicated and she doesn't give 2 fucks
Ok. I don't know who most of these people who keep @'ing Taylor with blue check marks next to their names are, but how is it that so many damn "celebrities" or shall I say, mini celebraties, seem to know who Taylor is? Why do they care so much?
Like I know Jenna Marbles mentioned her, and she's been featured in the news for a few things in her state… But she isn't even at 2 millions followers yet. I just don't see how any of this is enough for all these semi famous people to know or care about Taylor so much.
Not the same anon, but "Cruella de Vil" is literally the correct format and spelling per the Wiki and IMDB.
lol! Wouldn't be surprised. Girl lives by her whims.
Yeah okay but the difference between those accounts and you is that those accounts are most likely breeders or experts in animal care.
Their job is to care for the animals they already have, while yours is to get a new animal you know next to nothing about so you can keep your army of children entertained and show yourself off. I really doubt Jonny helps her with that shit at all.
So she was in the container overnight?? Ffs, Taylor. Seriously, the post with the gecko in the container was from the afternoon. The post where she was holding the gecko with the subtitle "Mara says goodmorning" or whatever the fuck was from the following morning.
Are you fucking kidding me…>>492347
She got them from a store. So they're probably from a similar wholesaler. I would be shocked if a petstore paid the price for leaftails from a good source, it would be almost impossible to make a profit.
She's bored of them now. She's moved onto snakes
She's just waiting for them to die.
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SA Fag here again. I messaged the shop about the geckos. They are wild caught.
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Her default mindset of “this would make a great photo!” is kind of disturbing. I know it’s to be expected with everyone having a smart phone now but… she’s always looking for that next “cute” animal picture
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Jonny looking at caiman at reptile expo
Rat cages should be huge too, heck proper hamster cages are bigger than what her hedgies are in.
No animal should be in a store bought cage unless their main enclosure is being cleaned.
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This is also such bullshit that she even had to touch it to move it into an enclosure. Even hamster youtubers will move a new hamster, an animal that can be handled, into a new enclosure using a tupperware or similar to avoid stressing it out.
And you know she didn't get this in one shot. Probably took a while to get a good photo.
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with all the money she flaunts you'd think she could afford lips that don't look like they were stolen from a cadaver
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Trying to share animal facts and commenting on how much she ~loves~ Sabor right after it was mentioned here? Hilarious.
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YOU KNOWINGLY BOUGHT WILD CAUGHT FISH YOU STUPID CUNT
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Blatant lies. Come on.
hork. legit looks like she's done one of those "100 layers of liquid lipstick" challenges. who voluntarily DOES this to themselves? i say it's the best proof so far that she actually IS mentally ill.
& she's completely vacant in the full image. the tip of her nose has more going on than her eyes do.
Her excuse is that the snakes would smell the mouse and freak out. I'm no herp specialist so I'm not sure if that holds any water, but I'd imagine it would be the other way around; the mouse would freak out smelling snakes. However, simply putting them in another room isn't going to rid the smell of snake, it would have to be kinda far considering how bad snake shit smells. Plus, didn't she have herps and mammals in the same room before? Didn't seem to bother anyone then.>>492764
Taylor is a very typical 'do as i say not as i do' hypocrite. I can't count how many times she says it's bad to do X, then turns around and does X.>>492806
I would much rather her buy an IPhone X instead of a ton of puppies
"I didn't realize you lived with me."
We don't have to, you dumb bitch. You've made several videos and took all those instagram photos showing us you handling your animals too much. Normally, I wouldn't call her names, but I have been lately because she's been so flippant. Here's someone saying they have more experience with these things than she has, and she's going to sit there and argue like a bitch.
people have already been told off by farmhands and yet they're still blogposting
stfu about yourselves and how much knowledge
you have on birds and shit
just briefly mentioning TND isn't enough christ
speaking of TND didn't she already mention her new pets (the leaf geckos) what did everyone get this fourth pet thing from? or am I just blind and she said she was getting another already
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Someone Taylor follows. I thought it was pretty interesting.
I think the only thing that would keep her from posting pics immediately is that she got an animal she KNOWS she'll get shit on for buying. She wants to get a video out first to amass a big enough "OMG SO COOOOOOOOOL, MOM!!!" crowd to steamroll any criticism.
But Jonny being stupid high and mistaking 3 animals for 4 makes sense too lol.
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She just posted this too. Very interesting indeed.
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During her mom's livestream I asked if Taylor had EDS and her mom read my question out and said "yes, she has EDS".
I'm not inclined to disbelieve her, but she's got like, the mildest case of it and milks it endlessly.
Oh you're right. Breakaway bandanas have a faux knot and a buckle, but it looks like a legit knot in the photo and I don't see any buckles.
She's a moron.
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It's just a regular bandana. If it were safe she'd post "proof," but this was her response when someone called her out on twitter. Her usual "just once in a while" and "it's fine for ME to do it!"
Lord, she looks so rough! How does one—especially such an insecure person as Taylor, say ‘yeah this looks good’.
Besides the poorly applied highlighter and lipliner, her neck doesn’t match her face !
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Betsy is Taylor’s high school (maybe earlier) friend
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Also, this is Taylor’s best friend
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I’m sorry but what kind of ass backwards logic is that? “Stress is natural do pick them up for photos all you want!”
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How is someone so misguided to ask for help from an ~°~*internet celebrity*~°~ over actually seeking help for their, likely, mortally ill animal?
Vets aren't even allowed to help over the internet or phone, so why would you take the advice of someone who shows bad husbandry? Even if you truly thought their care was the best in the world, their advice doesn't equate to genuine vetinary care.
This makes me so angry. Sure, sometimes the husbandry practises we put animals through are stressful to them, it's a necessary evil. But, I don't think that the guy who tweeted this understands the necessary part.
The goal as the carer of animals, especially wild caught, should first and foremost be to provide the minimum amount of stress possible. And you should be proud when you find practices which create the minimum amount of stress to that animal possible, you should not be taking pride in how good it looks for your selfies.
What frustrates me is how she refuses to accept advice, from fans and those who hate her alike. She refuses to listen to our concerns and address them. I just want to see these animals safe and well cared for.
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The more animals the more knowledge
She's trying so hard to validate putting her wants over the well-being and comfort of her animals. she's disgusting and shameless. same for anyone who supports her after seeing proof of her awful handling.
animals, especially WILD CAUGHT ones, die from stress all the fucking time. It's not some teenybopper "Oh no, I have a big test coming up!" stress or even "I'm running away from something trying to kill me" stress. It's "I'M CAUGHT AND CAN'T GET OUT! KEEP PERFECTLY STILL!" mortal danger stress. Even if they don't die from it, it can shorten their lifespan and health issues can arise or worsen because of it.
but, you know, it's just SO cute and amusing when something weaker than you is in distress. especially for some horseshit reason like taking selfies.
i am just so sick of this lumpy-lipped narcissist. why do her parents even WANT her back? >>493348
pls let this be the cover image for the next thread, lol.
If you can't afford vet care, don't get a fucking pet!
I dread to think how many brokeass teenagers have saved up for snakes they can't afford to care for thanks to this idiot.
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I don't know if I can post two images in the same comment so I'll post the second one after this one, but what's up with people (taylor and em) holding their Halloween crabs so carelessly?!?! Taylor has dropped hers and mishandled hers since the day she brought it home!!! Is em doing this to try and prove a point (maybe about Taylor, she's been pretty back and forth about her opinion on Taylor lately) or is she just an idiot who likes putting her animals on/near her face like Taylor??
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Here's the similar picture of em to go along with this (sorry if it's possible to put two pictures in one!!)
You can only post one pic per post, anon, so this is fine.
Ugh I wonder who did it first. I'm surprised Em did this.
Christ that picture…
I don’t give a shit what Taylor chooses to wear, but she HAS to realize those shoulderless things she keeps wearing in combination with her shit camera angles makes her look naked in 60% of her photos and videos. Though I’m sure that’s what she’s going for. What else would she have if she didn’t pretend to be naked and pose edgily with animals
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Soooo is she going to try to say this is what is causing her jaw stiffness and lisp?
TMJ can't cause a lisp.
(I'm a speech therapist anon)
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Eh, according to various websites it’s barely even the minimum. It looks to be a 20 gallon long aquarium flipped on its side which is 30H x 13W x 13L. They require (for trios) MINIMUM 12x16x20.
You know it’s kind of funny, when I do a year of research on a new creature, I often have the enclosure already set up and the correct size.
Also, if it does have live plants in it, I want to know how she’s keeping substrate in it? And none of those look live.
shit man, the iphone x's camera is truly unforgiving lmao. >>492806>>492826
She's had it for a while now, so this was just to show off.
(I hope I did this right :| )
I have TMJ and I do not talk with a lisp even when it locks up
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Here is evidence that Taylor doesn't take advice from anyone whether they're being rude or just genuinely trying to help.
They were just fine for 8 months in an enclosure without live plants? Did she do any research. People have been saying this species needs specific live plants and a terrarium to flourish.
She won't rehome them. More likely one or all of them will die and she'll pretend she "rehomed them" but never give details or anything… or blame the breeder as usual.
also what's with the "gave them to me" thing. Is she pretending she just happened upon these geckos for free, didn't someone already say where she bought them from (and they were wild caught?)
The leaf geckos? I haven't seen her admit they're wild caught yet. >>493660
Yes, someone earlier here said they are from SA and know the store she got them from, and asked the store directly if they're wild caught in which they replied they are.
Honestly if they truly are from that store and wild caught, her lies are getting worse. She is literally a pathological liar.
This. Is. Gold.
God I wish that this would be put on a large platform that she could see… oh wait, lol.
Especially funny considering she Thinks of her work as comparable to Steve Irwin. Once again, gold. I hope she sees.
It's genetic, but it can be triggered
by braces changing your bite. Has nothing to do with her lisp though either way.
Thanks Anon for the info. I knew it's hereditary but I didn't know about braces possibly triggering
Either way though the fact she's claiming her lisp is due to TMJD is just pure bullshit.
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Oh please don't get rats… they /are/ intelligent and need so much attention and care (~1 hour outside their cage per day). They can also get URI's if not kept in adequate ventilation… like you keep your fucking mouse in a cupboard… and need a pretty large cage…
The snakes would also freak them out (maybe the cats too, although they're young right now so they might be ok)… and they in turn would freak the mouse out.
Also I don't trust Johnny with them.. Just ugh no…
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she has a lie and excuse for EVERYTHING. why the fuck would you even get ready to take a photo of yourself to show to hundreds of thousands of people without being able to see yourself properly. don't think she realizes that the lies she chooses to tell make her look even stupider. it would appear that she's taken the photo down too after making this edit to the caption
“I know my highlight is trash to some of y’all”
Does that imply she thinks it looks good despite admitting she was “blind” doing it
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They're all gonna die whenever the next heatwave hits anyway, just like the crocodile skinks, if they even make it that far. I wonder how dehydrated they are and how little they are eating because of the handling stress. >>493543
I don't see any real plants. Also that's a lot of ventilation. Wonder how she's gonna keep the humidity up. Usually you spray them twice a day. I somehow can't imagine she'd do that.>>493589
No. And depending on how the dynamic in that trio is the male might bully one or both females until they die in such a small space. Could also be the other way around, you never know what happens when they're too crammed together with no adequate place to retreat to.>>493602
It's minimum for american caresheets, which tend to put animals into enclosures that are way too small and seen as animal abuse in europe.
Okay, she triggers
me. Why is it so hard to just NOT
. Is it really that hard to just not take pictures like this? Fucking take pictures of them inside
their enclosures. Fuck. It's really worth wasting your time you could actually be giving attention to your animals replying to all of the hate comments, Taylor? Why does she NEED to have her hands or her face in every photo? We know what your instagram and videos are truly about… you, not your animals.
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she's definitely reading here. check out the edit to this caption HA
~*~*~(and genuinely curious)~*~*~*~
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Wonder how many times this has caused her to drop an animal
Um, does she realize that ball pythons get kinda big? Possibly big enough that such a fragile little snowflake won't be able to hold them safely (for the snakes, I mean – she would be fine, they're not retics)?
I can't wait for "I had to rehome (insert animals here) bcuz muh EDS ;((( ", kek.
Also, if this is even true…WHY does she handle her animals in ways that make it super easy for them to fall and die? How many times have they fallen so she could do her stupid poses? How many times have they fallen while being moved for cage maintenance?
Also, she has to know that by claiming this she's inviting tons of criticism. It's almost like she baits online criticism so she can engage with it and feel validated by her army of children defending her.>>493910
Exactly. She acts like her bullshit excuses are a good reason to engage in, and indirectly promote this behavior to her fans that are so young and impressionable they ask her for advice when their animals are LITERALLY DYING.
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They really don't get that big.
>Also, she has to know that by claiming this she's inviting tons of criticism.
She obviously does. I think she just enjoys that whatever stupid excuse she comes up with is defended so vehemently by people that eat up every single one of her words with literally no knowledge of the topic themselves.
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lol She's 100% reading this thread.
I hope she didn't take these photos with the flash on though :/ the second looks like it was.
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I’m living for her mom’s passive aggressive digs at her animal hoarding
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It’s like she completely discounts the fact that any random passerby on the internet who has never seen her channel or knows who she is would come across her animal photos or comments and have an issue with it with no opinion on her as a person at all
No no, Taylor is the ~most famous~ pet owner on the internet, ~everyone, knows who she is and either worships at her feet or is a mean hater who is out to get her.
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She mentioned definitively that she has Type III. I don’t know what that means but can any EDS nons shed light on how bad that is and if it’s believable she has that type?
EDS anon here, also with EDS 3. EDS 3 varies hugely in severity and is surprisingly common. Some people don't know they have it, others can't use their joints and have had dozens of surgeries.
People on this thread really want to believe Taylor doesn't have EDS. As someone with it I believe she does, you can tell she's hypermobile watching her videos. Her hands/arms/shoulders are more flexible than most and her elbows bend backwards- all EDS signs. How bad it is for her day-to-day is impossible to tell.
It most likely had to do with the fact the iphone X camera really dragged her ass lmao.
And if she's reading this thread (which she is most likely), she noticed all the things people pointed out.
Guess the only way you'll look smooth and pretty is with ultra harsh lighting and not so great resolution.
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Ugh. What is with all these stupid live confessional videos.
I feel like Em making a video is NOT needed. But… it'll get her views and attention right?!
I bet she will probably talk about how people is saying she doesnt liked Taylor, but in reality they are "really good friends"
I will be surprised if she have the guts to speaked about Taylor.
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i doubt she will be addressing anything new. that said, maybe someone could record it just in case?
So sorry, typing on my phone and didn't realize how long it was.
I'll rephrase. Personally, what i cannot stand is that Taylor is always talking about her mental illnesses, and yet continuing to never second guess her actions and choices. Wtf is the point of (self)diagnosis if she isn't using that knowledge to make better life choices??? If i knew that i had PTSD earlier, i might have been able to prevent some of my mistakes, and not hurt so many people.
It's like admitting you're prone to make bad decisions and then turning around to defend all your decisions.
Did she claim that it was causing her lisp?
I think >>493528
was just speculating. It's not like she's ever tried to hide the fact that she has lip injections, if my memory is correct then somewhere in these threads is proof she has admitted to getting them.
Yes. On this thread there is a screenshot of Taylor claiming braces gave her TMJD. As anon mentioned it can be triggered
but not actually caused, TMJD is hereditary. Then further said the TMJD gave her a lisp.
What's actually super ironic about this is not only that she never mentioned having TMJD before, (when people mentioned a lisp she claimed she had no idea she had one) but HEDs causes joint issues and TMJD is a joint disorder if the jaw, so wouldn't the TMJD be related to the HEDs and not caused by braces?
You're right that EDS varies greatly between people affected, and I think if she does have it she's very lucky to be affected so little (although that can change, many people get a lot worse in their 20s).
But I believe if she'd had to see a doctor in the last 5 years for it, she wouldn't be calling it EDS type 3. It's been "rebranded" hEDS (hypermobility type EDS).
apologies for EDS fagging.
TMJ is a very common effect of EDS.
Funnily enough, my braces gave me TMJ in a way - as in I didn't know I had EDS when I was 12, so my orthodontist would yank my jaw open as I couldn't open my mouth wide enough. Voila, one clicky, sticky jaw.
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you know it’s possible to hate drama and still participate in it when it directly
involves you right?
someone openly slandering you and you defending yourself against allegations can loosely be described as “drama” for instance.
Wonder if the thing that spurred Em to do this livestream is that she stumbled across these threads, esp the bits that involve her.
I like her content, but I'm starting to feel she's every bit as fake as the average social climbing YTer. It's one thing to treat someone with civility, but she goes out of her way to be buddy-buddy with T. In doing so, she makes Taylor seem like a legitimate source of knowledge when it's CLEAR she knows better.
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Looks like she used flash.
I doubt I'm going to watch the entire thing, but she's talking about some forum website. I assume it's GG or KF, because some of the things she's mentioning I don't think have ever mentioned here:
"They're saying Danny is a misogynist"
"They're saying Tyler copies Taylor"
"They're saying that I'm shading or trying to bring down other pet youtubers"
Excluding the last one, none of those things have been mentioned here? People have talked about Tyler, but the most I've seen is people just calling him an idiot.