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22 year old "family friendly pet mom" Youtuber, her 32 year old junkie (ex?)boyfriend Jonny Craig, and her creepy controlling mother.
Previous thread: >>>/pt/674143
The basics:> Taylor is a notorious animal hoarder known for collecting 40+ rare and exotic pets and manhandling/mistreating them for the sake of her Youtube channel which has over 1 million subscribers. Many pets have died in her care, many more have fallen ill due to her neglect or disappeared after "rehoming" them. Fails to give proper enclosures for many of her pets, including overstuffing fish tanks, keeping her kittens locked in the bathroom, and her mouse and hedgehog in the closet.> Jonny Craig was the frontman of the band Slaves and is most well-known for being an outspoken abusive junkie. He has been in and out of rehab centers for a decade now and has been kicked out of multiple bands and off of tours for his behavior. He is usually homeless when he does not have a girlfriend to leech off of.> Several of Jonny's ex-girlfriends have come out with stories of Jonny's physical and sexual abuse, including rape at knife-point. His ex Chelsea confided this in Taylor when she and Jonny first started dating, in which Taylor's response was to laugh with Jonny and make a public spectacle of it.> Taylor loves to throw pity parties for herself and dodge around the real issues when faced with criticism about her husbandry, hoarding, and hypocrisy. She can never keep her stories straight and will tell outright lies only to contradict them hours later. Her fans are sycophants who only encourage her.
Facebook (private:) https://www.facebook.com/Taylor.Nicole.Dean
(currently deactivated as of 6/29)
List of all Taylor's pets:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QNUksDcQk_cqLTkTFTiPjP2pCGBQgORyCesIIqvZ2Zs/edit?pli=1
Requires update of new frog, tarantula, crabs dying and all the fish outside of the 150 “rehomed”
Stats of Taylor’s pets and history:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1e8bakM4GHa2J1y4qwYsB-T0jSpN5uWCI_q0dv-odij4/htmlview#
New Milk:> TND leaves rehab early, reactivates Twitter, immediately starts blaming Jonny for EVERYTHING and takes 0 responsibility for her own mistakes> Has already moved out of the atrium house (as if no one saw that coming)> Says she's in a sober living house that's "not a facility" despite having a curfew and on-site staff enforcing rules. hints at plans for moving out soon> Posts photos of select few animals outside of their cages (except the rats, of course, are always in their inadequate cage)> Nemo has clearly lost weight, Star is chunky as ever. whoever was watching the animals was not being careful with proper feeding> TND claims that blatant lies she has tweeted in the past were really Jonny using her Twitter account. Will unblock people he made her block, but anyone who made her "feel negatively" will remain blocked> Promises to apologize to Jonny's exes that she's burned in the past, gives no timeline of when she might do this, says she just wants to "have fun" right now> TND claims to have begun process of filing a protective order against Jonny for herself, despite no evidence in public court records to support this> Claims Jonny tried to get her to sign an NDA but she refused. Says it took her "like 10 tries" to leave him> Confirms that texts between her and Chelsea in Dec 2017 are real, but quickly deletes confirmation tweet. > Jonny, in an incredibly uncharacteristic move, is silent on social media, refusing to bad-mouth Taylor, asking others to leave him out of it (possibly because he believes he still has a chance to get her back)> Mama Dean tweeting her usual passive-aggressive threats of spilling milk> TND changes Twitter bio to include "sober date" or 6/5/19, but quickly removes it within a day or two> Anons speculate Taylor is manic and/or has already relapsed, and that's the cause of the ridiculous Twitter bender she's on> TND meets new boy toy (Jake) while in rehab together, immediately latches onto him while insisting they're "not really together"> Starts acting a hoe on Twitter, talking about how Jonny didn't fuck her for "13 months", she was "mentally single" for a year before splitting, and she wants to slut it up now that she can> Takes sneaky photos of Jake when he's not looking, spam-posts them to Twitter because he doesn't have an account. gushes about how hot he is, says she wants him in her videos because "he's funny"> Posts obvious after-sex photos with him in a hotel room. He finds her PUBLIC Twitter account, texts her about it, she short circuits and begins deleting tweets about him soon after> Ironically calls him "super platonic best bro just friends" yet says she loves him and could consider marrying him ("just kidding! or is she? she is… or is she?")> Couldn't be "by herself" for any amount of time, as she didn't break up with Jonny until after she had found a new guy who "gave her the strength" to ghost him> Gets her fans to pester Halsey to write song lyrics by hand for her, tattoos them on her chest, looks real bad sis> it's infinitely clear that while she may have detoxed in rehab, she did not learn anything about herself, or the trait of humility> immediately back on her bullshit of "not caring about the haters" yet acting incredibly defensive about everything> Doing EVERYTHING that professionals tell you not to do during recovery (moving house, impulse tattoos, new relationship, heavy social media use, etc.)
> Recent Known additions to the horde of animals: Tarantula, frog> Recent Known Deaths: Moon crab (Ursula)> Recent Known “Rehomed”: Satanic Leaf geckos, all fishtanks not including the 150 gal, other moon crab (Triton)
Videos which sum up the drug addiction situation: https://youtu.be/IczGyFh0LBghttps://youtu.be/9tblAt5NX9w
Old Milk:> Taylor deactivates Twitter after announcing she has broken up with Jonny> Posts on multiple platforms that the relationship has ended but begs people not to tell Jonny. Deletes posts very quickly after> Something happens that sends Taylor to the hospital for unknown reasons> Jonny moves out WHILE Taylor is in the hospital, has someone drive him to NY State in a U-Haul truck with his most expensive toys (computer and some shoes and stupid Funko pops) in the back> Jonny swears up and down they are still together and he only left to "take care of his dad for two months"> Mama Dean confirms Taylor is in rehab for heroin addiction (surprise surprise she's been using all along)> Jonny receives calls from Taylor while she is in rehab. She acts as though they're totally fine, and she will visit in NY as soon as she gets out> Taylor is telling everyone a different story depending on what they want to hear> Mama Dean spergs out when she realizes she's possibly being lied to> Jonny is already talking to new girls, receiving gift packages from other women, is definitely not sober in NY> Posts photos of his father's gun (he legally cannot own one bc of his restraining order from Chelsea) and pathetic attempts to threaten people> Taylor stops calling Jonny and he throws a pity party for himself, taking a page out of her book by scheduling streams yet never following through
Unconfirmed Milk:> Getting evicted from the new house> TND is trying to complete her “redemption” to youtube> Jonny has already sold $5k+ computer set-up to buy drugs, has not mentioned streaming in a week or two> TND has already relapsed, or is having some other mental breakdown causing such overactivity online> Photos of black snake (Salem) with possible mites, TND claims is just aspen (bedding) dust
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General Pettuber Thread:>>>/snow/730730
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Deleted his previous post
well, she's already said that her account is about her life, not her animals, see >>675327
tbh she should just rebrand because she can't be fucked to even pretend to care about her animals anymore.
I hate to bag on another girls appearance, but when TND is such an inconsiderate cunt it’s hard to feel bad for her.
She looks TOO skinny and I’m sure she’s loving the fact she lost weight from heroin. She definitely edited her side boob in the pictures she posted and her face looks sunken in.
I’m all about posting selfies to show people you’re happy about your body, but she blatantly lies about herself CONSTANTLY and it makes no sense. Just tell the truth and say you got work done on your lips. It’s nothing to be ashamed about.
But it is embarrassing to everyone that she can’t even own up to her lip injections even though there are literal screenshots proving her wrong.
This girl needs to get the fuck off the internet. With how many people follow her drama, her entire life is going to be recorded by strangers purely because her dumpster fire keeps getting bigger, and it’s just going to keep popping up in her life.
But karma will catch up eventually.
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That dandruff girl.
But I guess I can’t be surprised since she’s known to never shower.
Why does she choose to be a greaseball and tell the world about it?
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I guess Jen doesn't want to face the music today.
is what Jonny posted "thank fucking god" about?
Well they would tell Jonny if there was a protective order against him… Since he has to obey it.
I honestly wonder if Taylor is lying about the abuse, she's obviously lying about him forcing her to shoot up. I'm sure it was emotionally abusive
but not to the level she claims.
And sorry thought it was new milk.
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>>676060>he's literally my friend
yeah you can call it whatever you want, but it doesn't change the fact that you're very emotionally and sexually invested in him.
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she's such a dumb bitch… should've kept it to yourself if you didn't want the internet speculating about it.
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people who aren't experienced with addiction offering their opinion:>reeee don't open your mouth unless you've injected china white hourly, you have no idea what you are talking about reee
people who are are experienced with addiction offering their opinion>you don't know me reeee
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inb4 she relapses within a week of moving out of the home, if she hasn't already
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She’s reading here guys lol
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only thing you changed was dropping the manlet and getting clean for a bit
people are worried about her and she finds it offensive
oh taylor. the cow that keeps on giving.
I'm sure Jake is gonna love this. he goes to rehab, talks to some chick for a quick fuck while inside, gets out of rehab, and discovers she's obsessed with him and plastering his name and face all over the internet. and it's getting picked up and spread by other influencers. that's definitely
gonna help his recovery. I hope it doesn't jeopardize his job or anything.>>676064>Maybe it's been proven by multiple experts to be a bad move, but I read ONE BOOK and it didn't say anything about it! so it must be okay! I read one book, so I'm an expert on healthy recovery too now! even though I haven't even been sober for a month…>>676068
God I hate that he calls her Nicole
Taylor you literally would not shut up about this guy who you just met. You're more embarrassingly obsessed than the internet ever will be.>>676072
And I bet nobody else is secretly taking pictures of each other and putting them all over their social media?
It's unhealthy as fuck Taylor get over it.
Do you want a cookie for being sober for FOUR WEEKS
Sit the fuck down.
We have all the right to laugh at this hilarious mess you are providing straight to us.
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uhhh.. must be pretty important to you if you obsessively tweet about it for several days instead of having a quick shag and never talking about it publicly. what normal fucking person even brags about "getting dicked down" by a guy?
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did she really just change her twitter name to the title of the rewired video
I dont get her. Does she have no understanding of the concept that her life might be way easier if she didnt share so much of it with her over 100k followers?
I had always dismissed the idea that someone would rationally WANT that much negative attention in their life but here we are…
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The “good choices” you’ve made? Do you want a fucking cookie? Yes look at you, you absolute MARVEL! All these amazing things you’ve done:>baited your abusive ex>jumped on the first cock to give you attention>shat your personal life all over the internet>put all your pets on the back burner >got a terrible, spur-of-the-moment tattoo
Is that what she wants credit for? Because as far as I can tell, she hasn’t done a damn positive thing at all. She’s treating her treatment like a joke, won’t admit any actual fault beyond twisting it to make herself look like a martyr, credited a dude she’s known a month with more gratitude than she’s shown her own family who (although is crazy) have taken care of the animals she abandoned besides god knows what behind the scenes to try and get her help…
I mean I just can’t. I’ve gone from fan to doubter to disgusted to absolute disdain. I am a fucking hippie sap that wants to see the good in everyone and loves a real redemption arc, but this is ridiculous. This week she’s taken a shit on the last shred of hope or pity I had for her.
These people have been there for a year and have actually completed rehab. They're working super hard to be sober clearly.
Then again, you're a liar.
I think Jonny reads here and followed her social medias for a bit and realised that it doesn't matter what she says because she is coming off so fucking shit. She has lost any validity she ever had in 2/3 days.
I'm getting flashbacks to when she was laughing at people speculating over her being a drug user months ago. You don't get to say>You have no idea what's going on in my life!
When the internet speculators have been in the right every time so far>Internet right about her pet care being subpar>internet right about johnny being abusive>Internet right about the Chelsea texts being real>internet right about her doing heroin and lying about it, several times over
That's just the shit I can be bothered to list
You're zero for four Taylor! Maybe if you hadn't lied all this time people would be inclined to believe you, but your ultra defensive, snarky responses and excuses are copypasted from the last four instances. You don't have any credibilty, it's time to shut up, show some humility and maturity and rebuild your reputation.
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her stans are brain dead…WHY would we believe her given all the shit she has spewed in the past. The pee tests, her therapist said drinking alcohol was okay, and so much more.
Reposting from two threads ago with additional info:
The process of getting a Protective Order takes several weeks. If anything she has applied and is awaiting her hearing and has a temporary order. If it had been granted already it would appear in court records. Nothing appears when either of their names is searched.https://search.bexar.org
Jonny's legal name is Jonathan Monroe Craig.
Also, since he is in New York, the sheriff is unable to serve him which will further delay the proceedings.https://www.bexar.org/1442/Protective-Orders
PROTECTIVE ORDER PROCEDURES
Once the application has been approved, a protective order hearing will be scheduled in 2 weeks to give the Sheriff's Office time to serve the perpetrator. Once granted, a protective order lasts up to two (2) years.
The Sheriff's Office will hand deliver the paperwork to the actor. The paperwork consists of an application for the protective order, the sworn statement you signed in our office describing the violence, and a Temporary Ex Parte Order to keep the perpetrator from bothering you until the hearing date. This includes keeping the actor away from your residence and place of employment.
If the perpetrator is served, you will need to go to court. A prosecutor and an advocate will go with you to court to represent you and answer all your questions.
If the actor agrees to leave you alone, an Agreed Protective Order will be issued. If he or she does not show, you automatically get a Protective Order by default. If he or she denies the charges, a hearing will be held in front of a Judge who will decide if you get the Protective Order.
Once you receive the Protective Order, the actor may be arrested if he or she bothers you or goes near your residence. However, if the actor is not delivered (served) the papers, upon your request and with a valid
address, the case may be reset again for two (2) weeks, and again, if necessary.
Oh but don't be silly, anon! Rules are always different wherever she goes!
The facility she went to is tooootally fine with her hooking up with another rehab patient because everybody else does it. And they've known each other for 4 weeks so that is more than enough for her to gauge how great of a relationship that's totally not a relationship is going to be. Total nonsense that someone with codependency issues who's been sober for less than a month will relapse, you hater! /s
>>676109>The process of getting a Protective Order takes several weeks. If anything she has applied and is awaiting her hearing and has a temporary order. If it had been granted already it would appear in court records. Nothing appears when either of their names is searched.
A lot of states do not put protective orders up on their court record websites. They're still public record, but you have to go in to the clerk of court with the docket number and pay for a paper copy of it. It's kind of a compromise between keeping it public and protecting the person who filed for.
I'm not saying that she's not feeding everyone a line of bullshit when she says she got one. It's very possible since it's Taylor. I'm just saying that if Texas is a state that keeps protective orders off their website, we can't use the lack of it not being up there as definitive proof she didn't really get one. I can't find anything doing a quick search if Texas does publish them electronically or not.
Personal information can be redacted.https://www.womenslaw.org/laws/tx/restraining-orders/family-violence-protective-orders/basic-info/can-i-keep-my-personal#node-36637
Though she has moved to Austin which is in Travis County, the events precipitating the protective order occurred while she and Jonny resided in Bexar.
>However, if the actor is not delivered (served) the papers, upon your request and with a valid address, the case may be reset again for two (2) weeks, and again, if necessary.
I don't know what the procedure is if the respondent cannot be served. The atrium house is Jonny's "valid
address" (assuming he was on the lease or received mail) until he legally establishes residency elsewhere.
Tinfoil: Jonny didn't return to San Antonio for his dental appointments because he was avoiding being served.
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She really isn’t showing any enclosures huh
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So I wrote my sister this is her response will be in three parts sorry for a mass post
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You didn't need to ask your sister, anon. http://bfy
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How the fuck did she manage to do that?
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Aaaand on Twitter she still trying to taunt.
At least she put the damn animal down for the picture this ti->>676123
So does that mean she's home suddenly, or that she had her mom bring/send her only her most instagram-friendly animal
From previous thread:>>675991
Jen has removed that Periscope, I hope you downloaded it before posting the link?
dang Jen, make it more
obvious that you're lurking lol
that or Taylor told her to take it down. I'm sure they're all lurking. I just can't wait for Jake to find these threads
Chris is problematic
yes, but he's also a recovering addict and has actually spent a fair amount of time in and out of rehab over the years so I'm sure a lot of people here can agree that his opinion on the matter of her fucking another recovering addict is semi valuable compared to someone with zero experience such as her dumb fuck stans. I don't like Chris but he has Rehab/Mentor knowledge that many of us don't. He's just a poo head that thinks because he counselled some addicts he's a psychiatrist. He's got a whole bunch of issues on his own but yaknow, name an addict/ex addict who isn't problematic
well today is our lucky day then, because I've been a mentor at a bupe/sub clinic for 6 years and have 8 years clean. What she's doing right now isn't tactful but it isn't inherently against anything or indicative that she'll relapse. She's making sober choices and feels good about it, we see it a lot in group. AA is where you're not supposed to date within, but people still do and end up married sometimes. Whether she relapses or not is on her, not the dude. Whether he relapses or not is on him. If they relapse then they would have done so anyway, without the other.
Rewired soul is a fat, retarded cow. I never agree with him on much, and I certainly don't agree with him here, he's just going after the situation for his usual reasons. Nothing he has to say is useful or insightful.
What ever you say!
Funny how at convenient times in all these threads there's always a therapist, doctor, psychiatrist, mentor, animal worker, mechanic pretty much any damn trade to suit the situation! I don't take it seriously when people spout shit about their alleged profession or what they do/have done in their life on an anonymous forum.
A lot of people spout that shit to make their opinion seem more valid
than it actually.
I could easily say I'm a therapist thats worked in rehab centres for 10 years and I strongly advise against relationships between recovering addicts in rehab because of such and such reason and why it's never a good idea to make my opinion seem more valid
. Doesn't mean shit. This is why we don't blogpost.
I'm not a stan, idiot. I'm just not buying what he Rewired Soul (or Taylo), are selling. This guy likely had no idea what Taylor was about to do with the picture, since he contacted her about her twitter later after she made the posts. If it turns out he's in on all he posting later, we'll know he's an attention whore but for now notice how covert it's all been.
TRS is a pice of shit who comes for people at their lowest for the sake of a quick dollar. He stans Holly Conrad ffs.
That's a shit example, that person's app was glitching and showing them that Taylor was following Jonny, another anon did a further search to prove otherwise.
You on the other hand are just splerging shit to make your opinion more valid
than it actually is.
Hey it’s our lucky day tho, lol.>>676171
Like nobody else around here has “actual experience” in recovery, sponsorship and mentoring. They just don’t give their qualifications. You however came in like a know it all and spewed bullshit. You can’t pull the wool over our eyes. It’s as easy as google if you are confused.
yeah sorry anon, my hateboner is showing enough to drive me off topic for a minute>>676193
I guess there's also a worry that he could be in it for the ride, maybe going to launch a channel sometime, etc. the relationship would 'stick' for a while in that case but could be pretty destructive.
Yeah, it wouldn't be an issue for her to go through a rebound phase if heroin wasn't involved.
I don't hate Taylor and I got a lot of shit here for saying she's not a bad person, she's just a fucking idiot.
I want her to recover. It seems like a lot of people are waiting for her to relapse for their own amusement and that's fucked up.
So I'm not concerned that she's hooking up with a random guy. I'm concerned that she's clearly infatuated with him. I'm concerned because it's so much easier to avoid relapsing when you're happy and have good things to distract you. But the moment something bad happens, like this new guy moves on, well… The temptation to escape your pain becomes a lot harder to resist.
I want her to get better. No one deserves to be a junkie. I want her to get real therapy about her codependency issues so she doesn't need to feel the need to fill the hole in her soul with animals, so she gives most of them away to people who can really care for them, and so she stops hurting herself and others.
Her animals deserve better and that won't happen until she gets real help and stops masking her issues with hookups and animals.
Taylor, you haven't once proved the purpose of that tattoo.
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He's a fucking idiot. How can anyone be attracted to him?
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Sorry if this has already been posted but I didn’t see this one being mentioned. (Except for the rehab romance one)
I’m sure Jake has already searched her on YouTube. All her drama/gossip videos come up first HAHA
The fact that she stayed up till a dumb time last night makes me think she’s possibly using too. I think we will know for sure if she doesn’t brag when she’s 30 days sober and starts saying how proud she is of herself and whatever else.
The lack of mentioning Jake today makes me think that he either saw the red flags or straight up told her she was being inappropriate which is good, but I reckon it will only take another thing to trigger
her and she will be back bragging about this new relationship.
She seems to be a lost cause and honestly these anons hoping she truly gets sober because she will behave better are naive. I hope she gets sober but I can already see that it won’t mean anything because she’s not willing to accept responsibility, is lying about shit and getting triggered
by the smallest of things.
Oftentimes after leaving an abusive
relationship the abused party has trouble acting in appropriate ways because they've had their boundaries so consistently violated that they no longer have a good sense for what is and isn't appropriate. That's why I think dating or even messing around with someone straight off the bat is probably not a wise move.
Taylor also seems to forget that she has an pretty huge audience and she probably shouldn't post these insights into her life so flippantly. Like, get a private, more anonymous twitter for your real friends and family.
For whatever reason she lost them I think it’s good to point out that she’s an idiot for saying that she’s no longer animal focused. We all knew she wasn’t because those posts were few and far between but realistically a lot of people follow her just for the animals. They don’t give a massive shit about her abusive
relationships or drug abuse and will not give a shit about her new focus on rehab and whatever the fuck else. She’s picking a really niche market that has little to no overlap with her current audience who are there to see the cute animals.
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As a non native Eng speaker I often have no idea what tf he's trying to say tbh
Im wondering if Jakeyboi found out Taylor is psycho, ditched her and in a state of being upset she's messaged Jonny and that's what his tweets are directed at, the heartbreaking news he supposedly heard and what ever that means above.
He's acting freakishly chilled out over this whole ordeal that's happened.
I don't think anyone wants her to relapse for their own amusement, it's just that her inability to take responsibility for anything makes relapse inevitable.
It's sad. She's almost certainly going to die from this because she can't remove her head from her ass.
The web of lies she spins, however, are hilarious in their absurdity, and I can't wait to see what she tries to say next
You guys seriously didn’t believe someone from experience who posted last thread that relationships were not recommended in rehab and now you’re looking for proof/tin foiling about Taylor’s stupid fling. Lmao.
It’s only a matter of time before she gets kicked out for not taking rehab/sober living seriously if she hasn’t already gotten kicked out.
Same! She can't (but probably will) blame anyone but herself if Jake got freaked out and decided to cut shit short. I won't put it past her if she will manipulate him into sticking around telling him she will relapse without what they had though because "he is the best thing that ever happened to her" or some bullshit. >>676256
Majority of people have not spoken positively about her being all over this dude and saying it's bad for her right now to be so focused on being wrapped around his dick.
did you read what I wrote? I said she can't
blame it on other people, because they aren't the ones being creeps. no one scared him off but her. there's no tinfoiling going on in what I said in any way.
if her fans were being creeps, she could blame them, but they aren't, so she can't. because SHE'S the creep here. no one else.
I think at this point it's pretty obvious the whole sober living thing was a lie. Or she left after a couple days.
She says she isn't "moving him in" so no one should be concerned. She has no control over who moved into a sober living house.
Says she's moving in her 50+ animals to a sober living house.
Sober living is totally cool with her dating another newly recovered addict. Just like her made up outpatient told her drinking was fine.
Really fake texts between her and the person running the sober living house.
lol she probably means "sober living house" as in "I'm sober and I'm living in a house, that makes it a sober living house"
also her saying "it's a regular home, not a facility" adds to your theory. sober living/halfway houses are very much facilities, no matter how homey they feel. if there's staff there enforcing house rules and you can get kicked out for breaking them, it's not a "regular home".
What about needing a curfew though? She's mentioned having a curfew, so that suggests she's in some sort of supervised facility.
It just seems suspicious that any place that has a curfew would allow her to bring her animals.
But it's not impossible, I guess.
Wouldn't put it past her to lie tho.
I'm saying she probably did live in the facility for a few days and did
have a curfew, but she got kicked out/left early because she didn't want to have to live with the rules. And that now she's lying and pretending she's still living in such a facility, but she's such a bad liar that she also talks about doing things that would not be allowed in any sober living facility. just illustrating that her story doesn't add up (as usual) is all
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Just proves that as long as one follower worships her decisions she will never feel the need to recognize her mistakes.
That isn’t what she meant by putting Jake in her upcoming videos?
TND takes bro dick dm for private
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30 days sober yet she removed the date of her sobriety from her bio and replaced it with “we get down with recovery in this house”
go to the hospital last year for an 'ear infection' if I remember correctly…
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She's back again.
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Let's not pretend it's a fun summer camp experience tho like Taylor thanks.
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Lol now the stans are mad
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Eyes look the same, just one is edited to be brighter, am I rite?
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People didn't like her last post so now she's posting this one to regain sympathy from her fans.
Straight up manipulation.
Considering the fact that she seems to have at least a bit of make up on in the other picture… lol.
She looks bored here and wants to be interacting with the camera/audience in the other picture, there's really not that much change.
Same fake hair
Same fake lips
Same dead eyes
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Andddd here come the excuses
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doesn't matter if you were "acting goofy". You said your dickbro was trying to make him uncomfortable
which is a rude thing to do to a stranger (or person for that matter) no matter what. plus laughing and joking doesn't mean someone is cool with being flipped off, God, she really is 12. Funny that actual twelve year olds are calling her out on being shitty though.
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Anyone else notice that she now has “I make videos on yt SOMETIMES” ?!? Bahaha
She should put “rarely” instead
Again with the exaggerations. >it was a super QUICK uber ride>it was only an 8 minute ride AND I tipped him $12
As if any of this makes it okay. You’re a fucktard Taylor. Only you would pay for an 8 minute Uber ride.
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Who is that? Looks like it would be her bRO FrIEnDd? Looks like an excuse to JUST post this photo. She is so transparent.
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>the bruised are from my EDS guys it's so chronic
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I’m usually on alert about how people interpret things?!?!?
I wouldn’t ever wanna make someone uncomfortable when she JUST SAID they were trying to make him uncomfortable.
Do you not know how to speak English?
You said she can’t blame people for cowtipping. Everything else you typed read as if it happened.
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only twice herself??
So will she ever confirm she was indeed slurring in some of her videos.
Lol at her saying he facilitated it as to put blame on him entirely.
so she is saying that she was a hardcore heroin addict for a whole year
and none of her pettube friends knew about it? at all? either they are some shitty ass friends or she is exaggerating as usual.
i dont doubt that she has been into heroin for more than half a year but i also feel like she hasnt been consistently shooting up for a year.
also, great job betsy for taking your son to a fucking heroin den when you knew exactly what kind of person jonny was.
>I had cotton in my artery…
Is this cunt that fucking stupid? How are you still alive then?
Basically she’s saying she let Jonny shoot her up so I’m guessing since he facilitated the whole thing and she had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with it then she has no idea if he was even using clean needles on her. Lie better Taylor you nasty gutter junkie.
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does this mean she is being sarcastic about being sober?
you're the idiot.
learn to take some responsibility for your action. you know, like not telling all your tween followers that addiction is genetic making it seem like H is not as bad as it seems UNLESS you are that 15%. stupid bitch.(Hi, [cow])
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She talks as if she’s this expert when she SUPPOSEDLY is JUST 30 days clean.
SHUT THE FUCK UPPPPP
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He made another video lulzzzz.
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Top priority seems more like finding another relationship / getting internet attention.
Taylor has been extra manic on Twitter lately. Hopefully she's not on drugs…but every time she claimed to be uwu so sober in the past, she was high. So the odds of her actually being sober are slim.>>676399
RWS is a cow himself. The only reason he doesn't have a thread is because he's not interesting enough.
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BECAUSE SHE UPed THE SATURATION!!!!!! Her stans are just as retarded as she is.
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but no disclaimer this was a serious post…
Why does Dr. Taylor Nicole Dean keep saying that if you aren’t “born” with addiction, then once you withdrawal and that said substance is out of your system that you never have to worry about relapsing?
STOP. BEING. A. FUCKING. BRAINDEAD. PIECE. OF. SHIT with your tweets that deflect all self blame for injecting heroin every hour of the day. These tweets are DISGUSTING already.
I reckon Jonny actually was shooting her up, but not in the malicious sense that Taylor is making it out to be.
I think she asked him every single time, nagged and begged even. I think she thought it was safer because he had more experience injecting whereis she didn't, I also reckon that's why Jonny may have been kicked out of Slaves and didn't show up, Jonny may have tried to go but Taylor was withdrawing and not wanting to inject herself, she made Jonny come home and do it for her and that's why Colin blamed Taylor.
I think she shot herself up more than a couple times too but mainly relied on Jonny for help, it was probably an intamacy thing as well.
I hope that's also not why she's with this Jake guy, because she needs "help" and finds it easier to get the high when someone helps her out with it.
Given that Jonny's joked about injecting his ex, I'd say he's helped a few people out before.
Taylor's acting like she didn't ask for it but I bet my pennies she nagged and asked. Every. Single. Time. And think about it, the first time she ever tried it, it sure as heck wasn't going to be her injecting it, it most definitely would have been Jonny the first few times and it probably just continued because it was more comfortable for her that way.
You hit the nail on the head anon, I 100% agree with you and I think that is what bothers me the post about her.
She could definitely just be a chipper (someone who uses lightly or just on weekends) and just over exagerating how "sick" she was. sorry for drugfagging
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so she's really bringing her pets into the sober living house huh
Yeah, maybe a caged animal or two… not 50+ different animals? I'm not seeing how a facility is allowing her to have THAT many animals. The amount of enclosures she has is mind-boggling, they'd need an entire room just dedicated to her pets. Not to mention THREE indoor cats. So now all the other residents have to be mindful to keep the doors closed and not let them slip outside.
I can see the facility allowing like, one enclosure for a caged animal that fits in your bedroom. But she's seriously trying to cram 50+ animals into a sober house that isn't her own? Those cats are gonna piss on everything, they'll be so stressed with all these different people, surroundings and if there are other unfamiliar animals. She's either lying or (as usual) plain fucking stupid. Regrow some brain cells, Taylor.
she's laying the groundwork for when she relapses or it comes out that she already relapsed.
"It's not my fault guyz! I'm born that way, #15% UwU"
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He's going to milk the Taylor train for a long time. He hasn't had a woman in this much trouble to harass on Youtube since Trisha. Please stop embedding his videos here, his takes are shit and he is shit >>676189
Drama Taylor has with him is the only interesting thing that's going to come out of this and he's the one manufacturing that to some extent anyway.
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thats actually pretty chilling if it's true
It's not just your gEneTicS!
Heroin is no joke!
Taylor. You read here. Please stop saying it's a genetic thing. Anyone can become addicted to heroin. Even if they aren't genetically inclined for addiction, they will have a life long battle staying away from the drug after it leaves their system. Do you really think every person who relapses and goes back to using has hereditary addiction? No. They don't. Heroin changes your brain chemistry, regardless of your genetic makeup. It is NOT a drug that can have casual users. It ruins lives, genetics or not.
You are seriously giving out dangerous information.
Please. Research it more and don't just read articles that support your unsubstantiated beliefs.
Do it because you have a lot of impressionable kids that follow you. And also because you sound like a fucking idiot every time you spew your ignorant bullshit.
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honestly I can't figure out why she needs to share so many pics of her trackmarks, fucked up scabby body so often. she seems so proud of her junkie-ness. what a munchie
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confirming he punched walls, although idk if she is to be trusted tbqh
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still not taking responsibility. the first time was a choice too, tay.
I bet Taylor will use her heroin addiction as a conversation starter. Taylor at a party
Taylor: I had the worstestest addiction anyone can have to heroin. I can show you the album of pictures right here on my phone see
i was on roxy’s, fentanyl, brown powder, dilaudid, tar and China white. How many people do you know who had to take that many different opioids and got a tolerance to all of them??? Huh, huh???
Heroin to 8mg Dilaudid and then to oxycodone?
Dilaudid is stronger than either of them (but with a shorter duration), and 8mg is a large dose for IV.
first she's mentioned having a sponsor, only after we guessed here that she doesn't have one. make it more obvious that you're lurking tay>>676416
this makes a lot of sense. tinfoil, but she said she got that full-body rash "around February" and Jonny was kicked from his band in the last week of January. so what if he left to go on tour, she attempted to shoot herself up and totally fucked it up (causing that rash) and begged him to come home and do it the right way for her? and he got booted because he gave in and went home.>>676469
I highly doubt this is true. more likely she begged for the experience. he probably told her how amazing it felt and she was all for it, especially if she had already smoked it with him (since she confirmed Dec 2017 texts were true.) she was already addicted before it got to IV, so she was willing to make the jump.
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Share with the rest of the class!
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So it looks like a network of 9 different houses that all are co-ed sober living houses in Austin. Most reviews from people staying there are the same: it's a good place to be IF you are serious about recovery. This guy's review sums it up well…not a place to be unless 100% committed. If not, it looks like a place to chill and fuck your fellow roommates.
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For real, sounds super suspect, especially since one quick search on Amazon shows option after option of syringes to buy.
She bought him 5 thousand dollars worth of gaming equipment but he had to dig in the trash for a snake needle? Sure, Jan.
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I know these are old milk but I’ve never seen them, I was looking for reciepts from the beginning of their relationship since she’s going off about how she started shooting up with him…..some of these old texts to Chelsea are wild. Claims he got her on dope but back then she claims he forced cocaine on her too? Wished him dead a bunch of times but she still stayed for what, another year? And defended him and love bombed him all over SM. Fool me twice dummy.
Those are 29 gauge syringes typically sold at pharmacies for injection of insulin.https://www.statesman.com/news/20190325/bills-would-protect-texas-drug-users-who-report-overdoses
Bexar County, which includes San Antonio, is the only region in Texas that has a lawful syringe exchange pilot program because of local government support and a portion of a 2007 Texas health care funding bill that allowed for its creation.https://www.reddit.com/r/pharmacy/comments/ae10wp/tx_cvs_syringe_laws/
Apparently selling them OTC without a prescription is at the pharmacist's discretion.
This vaguely lines up with the story about Jonny pressuring and nagging her to get high with him.
people do have a tendency to wear you down into agreeing or giving in to what they want.
But in saying that, going as far to agree to having HEROIN injected into you? I don't care how much someone carried on and bitched and moaned in my face, I would never ever cave into a request like that.
It makes me think deep down a part of her DID want to try it, maybe she genuinely thought she wouldn't get addicted but you're an idiot if you think trying heroin once is a once off thing like Cocaine or Ecstacy.
End of the day, she still agreed.
She still had him stick around, and kept letting him back in and didn't stick to her word when kicking him out. Why not call an ambulance or police while he was passed out in the bathroom and then get a protection order? She could have done so much to help herself.
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In the 360 pic there is a white board behind the couch next to the pool table that says Hartford House on it
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And there's the same pool table, couches, and kitchen in their official web pic.
That's as far as my detective skills go but I'm fairly confident that's the place.
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Apparently use got her kicked out.
>roaches and mice
The more, the merrier!
Does she still have her roach colony?
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The only stalking that was done was looking at pics of the closest sober living house to the tattoo place she tagged. It's 5 minutes away and took less time to figure it out. 5 minutes. I mean, I'm no Einstein but she's a dumbass.
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Dog yourself harder Taylor
She literally just confirmed speculation going on just a few responses up thread
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You got that right.
just imagine calling the police for a person you have never met in real life?
"uh hello? my favorite youtuber is being doxxed by a website!!"
dispatcher: ma'am how is the website doxxing her?
"they're screenshoting her photos that showing where she is!!"
What a dumb bitch.
Taylor has gone to such lengths to keep this website hidden from her Stans, does this idiot realise she's now encouraged a tonne of people to come looking for this website? What a dick head!
Nobody doxxed her, way to bring attention to something that would have otherwise stayed within this thread.
Be prepared for a flood of white knights soon.
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Managed to snag before it was also deleted
She doesn't want people finding this website and that dumb fuck girl is doing the exact opposite of what Taylor wants.
Of course she's deleting the posts, she will probably delete that girls comments about it too.
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Recovering addicts don’t obsessively talk about their addiction in the unhealthy way you do. What recovering addict blasts their track marks all over the internet and obsessively talks about what they used and when. They talk to their therapist about all that and work through their issues. You’re just glamorizing your addiction for pity points from impressionable teenagers. But go off Taylor.
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Taylor, you literally tagged the tattoo shop on insta with the entire address including the city, but go off
The thing is, she's not just a heroin/drug addict.
She's also quite self absorbed and seeks a lot of attention, she's sadly one mentally ill girl.
Reminds me of her mum quite a lot, imagine if Jen was a young adult in this day and age with no kids, it would be a very similar scenario to Taylor I think.
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They're talking about the site in the comments
How long before some wk show up
Yeah, that was my point. How funny she answered at the sane time you did!>>676573
-you posted the floor plans of your apartment when you moved in, doxxing YOURSELF
-Jonny posted pics of the neighborhood sign, and eventually your entire ADRESS online
-you purposefully rented a home with a distinct feature (atrium) when people knew the city you lived in
-not to repeat others, but you tagged the tattoo shop with the full address in Austin that’s only 5min away from a sober living home? So that’s also on you boo
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1. Why isn't anyone holding Taylor to higher standards when it comes to clapbacks @ strangers? Even before returning nobody blinked an eye at her assblasting trolls to her stans.
2.Someone remind Taylor about all her past drug abuse she's pretending never happened. She really has the audacity to be like "I did fentanyl for 5 months u DoNt KnOw Mmy STORY" stfu
You're not allowed to snap at someone when
1. You've been lying for the past 6 months about your sobriety
2. You're not being 100%. You give half truths, deflecting, using scapegoats and pretending your bast Substance Abuse never happened
Also why is NOBODY holding Taylor accountable for her Animals anymore? & when she does everyone just believes that her Animals came before Heroin? If you were projecting to the world to be sober & admittedly suffered mentally and physically there is no way your 100+ animals received the treatment they deserved.
STOP LYING TO YOUR AUDIENCE ABOUT YOUR ANIMALS CARE DURING YOUR DRUG USE. If you care as much as you say you do you will tell people the TRUTH. That is NOT the right message to send to anyone. If you were severly neglecting yourself there is no way your animals didn't suffer.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
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Taylor there is more than one way to get clean and there is more than one way to stay clean. Believe it or not some people with the disease of addiction don't follow the steps and are doing great and have yrs. There are other step programs to that aren't aa or na. I don't want to discuss rws because he just seems like he also wants attention but to imply that if you don't follow the steps to recovery from aa/na you won't make it is laughable. If it works for her great, but she is contradicting herself so often and that shows that she doesn't fully grasp what she's spouting yet
can you please. it's sperging. as in Asperger's. not splurging as in spending money in excess. this is me sperging about the word sperging. it's been days and others have pointed it out too. integrate.>>676572
you know this wouldn't be a problem (not that I believe her in the slightest about this) if she owned her own home, like she's been talking about doing for over a year. too bad she splurged
on heroin for herself and her rapist pedo boyfriend instead of putting the money to good use.
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Good lord shut up you’re not even being helpful
What does she expect?
>Hay guise! I love this bar! It's only 3 minutes from my house!
Any halfbrain can get a gist of the area I am referring to from that alone.
>Omgg y'all need to stop stalking me at 123B Asspat Recovery Way! You shouldn't know that MY Special DICKBRO with my unique tattoo that ATHENA HERSELF WROTE FOR ME (oc donut steal!) Is living in the blue house with the big green pine tree to the left of the door way to GUISE STOP FIGURING OUT WHERE I LIVE! Y'all imma call the police!
I hope the sobriety place does kick her out. She can go not take baths or care for her animals elsewhere. Does dickbro even have his own place where her ark of mistreatment can live? That might be a moodkiller too…
addiction tip of the night !!
buying smack from homeless guys with sores who live in tents will give you cool stories to tell to your child-heavy fanbase
Samefag. It was stupid of her to tag the tattoo parlor.
Sorry for not saging. Forget we do that in this thread again
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Fuck recommendations from the people trying to help me, am I right guys?
“I never wanna visit that website again” lmao girl please stop acting like you don’t read here 24/7, it’s sad. How else would you have known so quickly that people on this site figured out the location?
God she’s literally so fucking stupid, saying she’s no longer going to give out her location and then proceeds to post pictures constantly of her surroundings and even tagging nearby places she’s been. She literally does this all on purpose to further her disgusting victim
Taylor: The doctors in my rehab know what is best for me
Also Taylor: Those same doctors who know what’s best for me recommended I don’t come back to social media, but fuck that lol
Yes, I can read. I know she tagged the tattoo parlor and I agree that was really stupid. Can we stop repeating everything? We all knew she was in Austin and could speculate that she was in any of the half dozen nearby homes.
However I do think using photos from inside a private home is crossing the line and breach in privacy. I think that part was stalkerish.
"it's recommended I never come back to social media"
No shit. Do you even understand how easier your life would be if you would just STFU online?
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Well, turtle seems to be more of a fucking retard by each day. Taylor doxxed herself.
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Nicholas Kardaras is a CEO of Bridgeway.
well yeah, no shit? have you never seen an abusive
relationship before? if you actually read the thread you’ll see apparently jonny had access to her twitter. which actually makes perfect sense considering there are countless times that different anons said her tweets sounded like they were written by jonny, especially with his trademark writing quirks and typos. it’s hilarious watching people flip flop back and forth. taylor is literally proving initial speculations right and admitting that she lied in the past and apparently NOW the previous speculations sound like bullshit? amazing.
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Whats ironic about this is that Jonny is acting more stable and mature in all of this.
Also, Taylor said HERSELF today, that Jonny NEVER physically harmed her, only went as far to emotionally abuse her.
She's not in danger.
The person found the place to read the reviews because Taylor's behaviour has been nothing but sketchy and against what most rehabs teach their clients.
Anon was right, the place had really shit reviews which explains why Taylor's allowed to "dickdown" fellow rehab guys and act like a total manic spastic.
It's lolcow, this shit happens all the time and is only able to be done when the cows give out plain as day information on where they're at. It's a little creepy but reviews have pretty much told us exactly what kind of place she's in which explains why she's so la de dah acting like it's summer camp.
What drug dealer is going to stalk your ex for you unless your paying them serious cash? And we all know Jonny don’t have that cash.
Anons went over the line this time period. It’s different when it’s raven in her husband lying to outsmart the internet and Taylor hiding from a man who has proven to be physically and sexually violent. Yes she dropped her city but Huston is a huge city and had what 5 sober houses by that tattoo shop? Anons could have totally just shared the reviews to laugh at without sharing the name and photos of the place she’s living.
That's fucking disgusting. You don't name items resembling genitalia after people you obsess over twitter. She's a sick and disgusting bitch tbh.>>676374>>676377>>676408
lmfao the narcissism is so strong, she's doing the narcissist's prayer off the bat.
Has she said she is hiding from Jonny? Has she said her location being posted puts her in danger?
>laugh at the reviews.
We're finding confirmation of our suspicions about the quality of the treatment she's getting, not humor.
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"Educated." Oh my god Taylor….
This is the thing. If you're an online personality, or even just a regular goddamn human, be careful of what you post online. You could have an "actual" stalker who wants to find you and hurt you.
Tagging local shops is one thing, which tells people what city you're in, but posting images of inside a public facility that accepts clients is another. Its easy to fucking find and she should have been smarter. Not saying it's explicitly her fault for being doxxed, but everyone should reflect on what they post on their public social media lol good fucking god. She's an idiot.
>>676636>jonny had access to her twitter
any of which she could delete, retract, or apologise for since its clear she also
had agency over her twitter.
I’m sorry but wasn’t she already leaving because “I hit my 30 day mark guys I’m cured!!”
I feel like this only confirms she’s been reading here from anons speculating she’s using again/will get kicked out eventually. It’s just all another stupid ploy
Emphasis on the wording >ACTING
He's still a piece of shit but he's ACTING more mature, which is more than I can say for Taylor's dumb bitch behaviour lately.
ok maybe, but I think it's more likely he's only appearing
to act mature since he's busy with his depression and smack. we all expected a social media blowup right away but that may well take time from him, especially if he signed something for a wad of cash or still thinks he can get back on the gravy train.
You're thinking of rehab which she left before 30 days. She's now in sober living.>>676665
Instead of saying, "Posting my location compromises my safety from my abuser!"
And using the words "kicked out" implies that she violated a rule. Why would she be kicked out for being a victim
She doesn't want to get "kicked out" because then she couldn't be with Jake.
Kids are literally taught this at schools these days, this is just a perfect example of how easy it is to find someone’s location.
A bit creepy? For sure.
The thing with Jonny having access to her Twitter is that she likely said some shit too and so did Jen. She enabled him and her mother jumped the boat and that’s that, she’s not even capable of apologising and honestly I don’t think she ever will be because nothing is ever her own fault.
Did Jonny shoot her up? I suspect the anon who said that she used him to shoot her up is right. That’s HER fault. Can I also mention that her batshit crazy mother was also very willing to help several times even to the point of basically following her everywhere? Abusive
relationships are hard but seeing as Jonny did travel, she could have just ran. Instead she chose to go on these long twitter crying moments about how she’s not loved or whatever. See, in most abuse cases the victim
will be socially isolated and terrified of their abuser and she never was. Even at the start of her comeback she was bashing Jonny like no tomorrow.
I wonder if she had him sign a NDA rather than he tried to get her to sign one. She has way more to lose than him and it was a very random thing to mention in general.
I feel like there’s a lot of new anons here already and I find it sort of funny how they also seem to be bashing Taylor.
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She is being very inconsistent with exactly how many hours she does therapy/meetings a day. Does not seem to be very honest. But we know how much she likes to exaggerate.
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Sooooo which is it? 4 hours a day or 7+?
Perhaps because she got kicked out of other places? I don't entirely buy the narrative that lolcow and social media drama were entirely responsible for getting her 'kicked out' of the other places either, but when the internet knows where you are living how can you stay there?
I'm here for the drama and to make fun of a cow for being a dumb cow. Not to fuck up someone's chances at addiction recovery, which is a life or death situation. That's fucked up.(whiteknighting, again)
I dont see how literally at best case scenario a handful of dumbass anons sent in complaints about her pets could have gotten her even near eviction when from the pictures and videos has clearly never known how to keep her home tidy and has had a year + in one of her homes where there wasnt a picture that DIDNT have a stain, clothing piles, syringe cap, empty bottles or all of the above.
She has never
kept any home she was in looking decent besides when she gets help from actually responsible people and when she is a paying tenant
and between few and far spam email about her pets its the maintenance of said apartment that will decide wether or not you get to stay bc thats what costs money to deal with and will depreciate the entire place.
Johnny is out of the fucking picture and just like before she even met him its the same old Taylor who has never been at fault. cocaine??? My fellow pet tuber forced me! Heroin??? Johnny forced me!!! Alcohol??? My therapist said i can drink so i do!!! Eviction???Vague internet stalkers!!! Pet death???They were already sick I just gave them the best last moments they could have!!! Lip injections??? Im natural!! Only had filler once! It was years ago what u see is me bby!!!
Johnny enabled her at best but acting like between those two hes the only bad guy and she is only going thru the stages as a 'survivor' is bullshit lmao.
>>676609>ark of mistreatment
topkek this gives me ideas for next thread picture>>676618
yes. see >>676400
which was posted right after an anon posting his new video, both unsaged, and he is the only one who calls her Nicole. It's pathetic honestly, dude, we do not want you here and do not think you're cool
agree, like go find the place if youre so eager to but was it rlly necessary posting it here? also it has 2 extremely negative and 34 extremely positive reviews on google so all the "confirmed!!! it's a shit place !!!!" posts are..dumb.
the black and white thinking of this thread is ridiculous, also when it comes to jc…taylor is acting like an idiot so suddenly ppl on here honestly go "wow so jonny looks really reasonable right about now and akchually taylor is the lying abuser i guess? it's must be her fault after all that he relapsed?". ouch.
Her apartment and home were both absolutely disgusting and this is just from things we could see in the background of selfies/photos she posted. Piles of clothes everywhere, rubbish lying around, stains on the walls and just random ass shit thrown all over the place. Not to mention the amount of animals she has. Walking into her home any odd day is bound to raise eyebrows.
Also you damn well know that if she didn't have an Internet following, she'd be complaining to her friends and family about "ugh my neighbors got me kicked out! other apartment tenants kept complaining!" as if it's OTHER PEOPLE causing the problems, where she's the root cause of it all. It's not hard to see Taylor being evicted when she's a) an animal hoarder b) an absolute slob of a human being and c) a drug addict. People rent to her and then they see the chaos.
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Here comes the wk yall (not taylor).
If she was so worried about being doxxed she wouldn't have tagged her location or kept posting photos of the area she is in. Guys stop feeding into her victim
Like c'mon. It's obvious. Perfectly capable of taking a photo of the cactus on a table or something.
C'mon guys. Nobody knew where the fuck she was when she first got back on twitter. It doesn't matter if you are even popular on the internet or not, you don't post shit that shows your exact, specific location. She's just a dumbass and needs
attention from the internet so badly that she is posting all this shit. For what reason???? She doesn't make money from twitter or instagram. She makes it on youtube. She literally has no reason to be posting this shit besides seeking attention under the guise of ~helping people~.
She could be making videos on youtube in some random room inside nobody would have known, talked about some things that could potentially help people, all while making youtube bucks, but no. She needs to fuel her internet and attention addiction.
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“my friend relapsing” ???
Think Taylor deleted this tweet from last night who relapsed? Jake?
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She changed her bio again.
If it was Jake that means no more studmuffin bropeen for a while…
Then another spergout about how the internet made him do it because she plastered him all over her Twitter most likely without his knowledge/permission like a 14 year-old's locker and the latest boy band.
Won t be surprised if it's Jake. With her boner for showing off her track marks and shit now I can easily see her trigger
the fuck out of people. She is literally a danger to anyone's sobriety.
I'm surprised how people outside of here haven't picked up on this. She is constantly showing off her track marks and other physical side effects (?) of h. You know, if people were doing that with something like self-harm people would be really quick to go 'that may trigger
someone' and how it's possibly inappropriate.
The level of detail she goes into is honestly really strange to me. If you’ve gone through a horrible thing, why would you want to keep taking about it? All the types of drugs you did and how and when and oh look here are my track marks etc etc.
And I’m sure parents of the tweens that follow her would be thrilled to know the in-depth education their kids are getting about junkie-life.
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Wasn’t deleted here’s the question she replied to
Honestly same, I seen a couple people here and there being ex addicts in her replies. I also imagine her being 1000% as obnoxious if not more in person, and I can see her relapse real soon and take all her new "friemds" down with her.
The first time using H scenario she paints I think she was more curious seeing Jonny high off his tits rather than scared. Especially with her previous coke addiction. I think she was curious what it felt like and got tempted seeing him high.
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Why the fuck is she involving herself. This is about the TRS video.
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Well that was fast.
She used to insist that ball pythons needed to be eating mice first….the argument that she blocked me over was that sge should have been feeding Maui rat pups right from the start when she posted the "wow!! He's getting so big he can eat rats now!!" posts about him.
Also she really shouldn't be taking in more animals, especially an animal with a neurological disorder. It might not even be the guys fault that the snake is in horrible snakes. Some spider ball pythons do not thrive because of the neurological disorder they ALL have. Before she tries to say "he doesn't have the disorder!!! He doesn't have a wobble!!". They all do. It's part of the morph. All have the neurological issues, some just express it more often than others, and more pronounced.
Honestly if I was Jen I’d be fucking fuming.
Can’t believe I could ever feel so bad for her mother.
Yeah, i could really see her trying to say that hers either has a really bad severe wobble that she's trying to "fix", or that it doesn't hae a wobble at all and that it's special.
So in case you're reading here Taylor. Every ball python that has the spider gene will wobble. They do that because the very first spider BP that was wild caught had a wobble and passed it on to all of his children since it's a genetic neurological problem. It's impossible to get rid of, but can be imprved with good husbandry.
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Her fish are gone no doubt, so is Mushu.
Kronos. Maybe the geckos.
She should be able to move her tarantulas/scorpion (? does she even have one) and the like but she probably won't.
At least one of the cats will be gone (Star) but she really shouldn't move them in general imo.
Basically, she's going to leave/rehome/'rehome' the animals she doesn't care for at all.
This seems the most likely conclusion, tbh.
This snake's 'story' definitely comes off as one of those "Random person wanted to give me their pet!" narratives.
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I wonder when we'll see who she "rehomed"
she posted the saltwater tank when she was visiting so not sure that's gone.>>676799
bitch… rehoming animals is the only thing you dont need to make excuses for. just do the right thing and rehome a good portion of them, you're in way over your head.
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No water and she hasn't even had it an hour. RIP impulse Petco purchase snake
Who has she 'rehomed' these animals to so quickly lmao?
It honestly sounds to me like she handed them out to other people within the rehab/sober living house because she really doesn't seem to know that many people in general.
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This is honestly the sort of shit I made up when I was a kid.
Also, why does she need permission to have animals if they're not actually going to live in the sober living place?
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taylor can't wait to make another snake obese
The pictures look pretty shit but can anyone tell if he's actually underweight?
She also probably has no scales/hasn't even weighed him lmao. I wish someone taught her at least the basics of feeding snakes.
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the cats are staying
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bindi also staying
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a few snakes have been rehomed. no doubt they will be quickly replaced.
Looking at the way she's going to have her 'set up' anyone who's died probably won't be moving.
That being said, if she is rehoming animals as she claims she would still have to be moved to her location/nearby because they're close enough to visit or w/e
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deciding to rehome animals was harder for her than going to rehab. if this doesn't scream she has a problem, idk what does.
Mushu is dead
Milksnakes are dead
Those are the most notoriously neglected I can think of. Kronos is definitely gone, not sure who would take him though. Maybe he was put down.
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Pretty sure a lot of people would applaud her for rehoming. The problem is you're a proven liar Taylor. How is anyone to know that you ACTUALLY rehomed them instead of them dying off?
Also, why bother downsizing if you're going to IMMEDIATELY get another animal?
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does she seriously not see that she's incapable of slowing her roll in any way whatsoever? drugs, moving, rehab, not rehab, moving, hoarding, fucking, posting, attention, acquisition, five hours sleep, get up and do it again. sober choices? what? that's a shitty sober living house if they can't tell she's on an epic mood swing right now.
out of control. she needs to get her mental illness in check. the longer she allows this to continue, the more difficult the mania will be to treat. of course she thinks she can be an educator. her mania is probably telling her she's frigging maria montessori.
screw the heroin, bitch needs lamictal. double fucking trouble, wew.
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Literally no clue why you'd think we'd believe this back story again.>>676859
What other friend has she mentioned?
>Literally no clue why you'd think we'd believe this back story again.
Oh look… another
nameless-pet just happened to fall into her lap again!
How does she keep outdoing herself as far as how shitty she can become? She needs to rehab herself, not ANOTHER snake. She could have used her influence to find it a home like she did with the dog if this wasn’t an impulse purchase. And you wonder why everyone is shitting on you Taylor. If you wanted something to take care of why not bring one of your own animals who you have been neglecting for a year while you were catching a nod every hour. She sure made this new snake at home extremely quickly when it was taking too long to just bring Nemo or Gemini over. She isn’t fooling anyone, she wanted new. The whole reason she ended up with 50+.
I shudder to think about the animal situation. There is no way to tell that the rehomed pets aren’t dead. Saying they all miraculously survived, who knows what condition they were in (barely clinging to life like Mushu??) and had to be rescued, not rehomed. The only people who could know what happened would be JC or Jen. If they choose not to say anything, Taylor can spin it however she wants. Hoping Jonny finally snaps and or Jen gets fed up of being used and spills on her ungrateful daughter.
How about she focus on the animals she already has??
I hope she rehomed the rats. PLEASE rehome them. She has no business caring for rats they require so much time and attention that she just does not have and never will.
My guess is she rehomed the bearded dragon, leopard gecko, the new croc skinks, Kronos (pleaseee) and some of her "boring" snake morphs that we hardly ever see anymore. That or they died.
We never hear about the hedgehogs anymore, they are probably long dead by now too. Honestly thank fuck she's been forced into a position where she has to rehome the animals. She never would have otherwise. Unfortunately within the span of what? A week? This cow has managed to get out of rehab, get a new tattoo, break it off with her ex, hop on the next erect dick, dox herself, come off as a manic psycho and get yet another animal despite having to rehome others. She never learns.
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If one "guy" came to take all her animals I'm betting she probably gave them to a rescue of some kind. I really want to know what happened to them so I've been checking all the local rescues with adoptable animals on their sites plus petfinder, craigslist, etc, but haven't yet found anything that looks like one of her animals available for sale or adoption.
I really hope she rehomed all the non-snake reptiles, Mushu, and the hedgehogs, the frog, and maybe the inverts she has left too. Wish she'd rehome the rats.
I'm glad someone said it. It's clear she lies when she goes into detail like this.
Same goes for her tweets about getting a new assistant, cameras, alert systems.
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geez. taylor really went downhill since the last time i've seen / heard about her. just started catching up on all this drama last night with "WhatEver"'s videos on youtube (very informative by the way!). after reading a lot of this thread i am thoroughly shocked.
i actually met TND a year ago, at playlist live. not in the.. typical way most would– going to a meetup, meeting them, taking a picture, etc. instead, she didn't show to the meetup. the creators present there were emzotic, tyler rugge. TND was supposed to show but, an hour in.. no show. two hours in.. no show, STILL. her mother was there, though. i went up to her with some friends i met while waiting and we politely asked her where she was. (jennifer had been following me on twitter for quite a while at that point as i was an AVID TND stan on twitter, would always express my support for her and tyler rugge) even she didn't know. she hadn't left her hotel room, and jennifer looked very worried. finally, we got a response. obviously this was a hot topic at the time, and if you've been on this TND drama for around a year now, or if it's mentioned in this thread somewhere, you obviously know that she decided to have her OWN meetup at 10 pm for the fans that wanted to meet her, as she was bedridden sick that morning. i begged and begged my parents to let me go, and we drove around 20 minutes from the hotel to go back to the lobby and wait.
she took around thirty minutes to show up, and while in line to meet her, i met a reporter and podcast director. i won't state her name, and i'll block her name from my screenshots, but the podcast was called "Reply All", and the episode i'm referring to is titled "All my pets".
anyway, she decides to shove a microphone in my face and ask me questions about why i'm here, why i want to meet TND, etc, etc. of i was happy to oblige because… it's exciting! right?
so i finally get to meet TND and, being the stan that i was at the time, i was ecstatic. now that i think about it, i shouldn't have been.
also.. kinda weird that TND decided to go to disney the next day; since she was 'bedridden' and could barely function, like she said.
later in july, i got an email from the reporter. she said she wanted me to hop on the podcast over Skype to discuss TND, her animals, etc.
i was SO EXCITED. like, SO excited. and now that i think about it, i really shouldn't have been.
i hop on Skype and we start the interview. she starts asking me questions about TND, JC, their animals, and all these things about them. she brought up emzotic's lolcow scandal, but i was unaware of this website at the time.
as i stated, i was a huge fan of TND at the time, and i answered every question positively. for example, she asked me; "Do you think TND takes good care of her animals, for having so many?", to which i answered "Of course!" and ranted about how she was a great owner and tries her best despite facing her sicknesses and the hate online.
long story short, my segment never made it into the podcast, fortunately. i would hate to have my social media put out there for everyone to know that i was a TND stan, as now i have a very bad opinion of her, her relationship with JC, her animals, everything.
however, i can't help but feel some sympathy for her and her animals. mostly her animals, though.
here's a screenshot of the email i got regarding the podcast, my response, etc.
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Reply to the tweet above.
thanks for sharing.
wouldn't it be great if Reply All did an update on this train wreck?
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Probably a total tinfoil but this was posted about 15-20 minutes from her sober living house yesterday, and today she has a new snake.
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She gave her hoard to a rescue because they were too hard to take care of, but don't worry cause "rescuing" a snake right after is what's best for HER.
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yet here she is explaining herself how many times already?
EXACTLY. I can't wait until her stans ask what happened to Jake.
inb4 Taylor says he was 'just a fling' and we never hear about him again.
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Petco keeps pythons and boas on cocoa.
That snake actually looks bigger than the hatchlings they usually get in, and since it's breeding season I'm sure there's a shortage right now.
If a reptile stays in one Petco store for 7 months, the only options for the store are to transfer it to another store or to adopt it out. They can't sell it, only adopt or transfer to another Petco that can sell it.
Tinfoiling, but I wouldn't be surprised if it got put up for adopting out so she bought all of the stuff right there at Petco when she saw it.
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Well if you believe her previous narrative, she already knew what it felt like. When making "why I'm an addict" excuses she says she's been on opiate painkillers since she was in grade school due to having EDS and got addicted to them.
When you take a new painkiller or a higher dosage you do get high, so I doubt she had no idea what Jonny's nod outs felt like.
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That's quite a severe requirement. I'm guessing they think having a job will stop people relapsing out of boredom?
But Taylor won't actually be "employed", she'll be "at work" by her own definition but not employed.
It makes sense to require them to be employed. I guess it is to reintroduce them to society as functioning people who are self-sufficient, and yeah a job distracts you from wanting to shoot up.
But in Taylor's case, unless she gets an actual job that doesn't involve YouTube, she's going to relapse, because she will be back to having no structure in her life.
oh please, her mom worked it all out long before that
she might be a trainwreck herself but she's not stupid
Lol yeah she consistently does not know her limits, other people point it out, she insists she "knows her limits," shit hits the fan, and she's all "I didn't know my limits"
Next dumb decision:
"I KNOW MY LIMITS THIS TIME YALL"
"THIS TIME IS DIFFERENT BECAUSE _____"
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I was unable to find the Client Agreement online which goes into more detail.
If she was smart she'd see Star getting fat while Nemo starves. Feed the cats properly Jen - since you love to lurk so much.>>676966
I think she said she's an addict because of the painkillers she had while in hospital or some shit.
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I thought you said you had professionals taking care of them
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What's that thing about one pet again?
No matter how many pets they allow i literally would never bring an animal into a sober living house. Can just imagine a cat getting out or an expensive reptile being stolen/sold when Taylor's out.
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funny how there's always exceptions for taylor.
>I rehomed them while I was in rehab>>676838
>I refused to consider rehoming them during the first 3 weeks of rehab>in rehab 23 days
So you made your list, found a place, and had them moved in 2 days?>>676995
There is a cat scratching post in one of the pics of the house she posted. How many cats and dogs already live there that she will have to introduce her cats to?
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>I'm sure I'll get more snakes in the future
why of course you will
she mentioned it on Twitter a few months ago, probably during a heroin-fueled rant. she said she was prescribed oral painkillers as a child when she was in+out of the hospital, and "developed a tolerance" that led to harder drugs. I'm not gonna go look through old threads to find it, you can if you want to. it was obvious bullshit at the time, unless she had continued taking those painkillers all day every day from high school to a year ago, she wouldn't have such a tolerance that would require IV heroin for 'pain management'. >>676985
so the multiple professionals from the rescue (who supposedly stayed at your house while you were in rehab) had trouble handling the workload of all of your animals, but you somehow gave them A+ perfect care without fail every single day while shooting heroin into your veins every hour on the hour? this bitch
Just one snake, guise.
Inb4 just one hit.
I agree. IF they're at a rescue, it's because Jen gave them up on Taylor's behalf. If not, they're probably either dead or dying and Taylor's just going to use this "rescue took them all" excuse to get away with not explaining that she killed her animals by neglecting them and then having to leave them in the care of someone unqualified while she did rehab, and then had the time of her life in sober living.
That is, if she ever gets back to making youtube videos about animals, because she's not exactly a consistent uploader and she doesn't really even seem to care about the animals she does have much.
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He is WAY too fucking thin.
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She just can't keep her story straight
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I have some experience with spider morphs and that’s how they sit/lay because they have issues but LoL he’s so quirkyyy
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in response to him sitting weird, some of her fans think a good diet and care will fix his genetic neurological issues …
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but better yet she doesn’t think he has issues, he’s just goofy
Relapse from what,
since they were constantly using?>>677032
So she was busy in rehab interviewing people to take Kronos, got it. We saw the process with the dog, it was whoever could come quickest, not whoever was best.
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Sorry I couldn't find a "before" photo with a more similar pose
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Didn't she say right when she got back online that she technically still has the house just had to move out because Muh memories of toxic relationship
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yeah reading her replies she seems to think she has a super special one in a million spider that doesn't have any issues at all.
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so is this an excuse to not stream the whole weekend like he promised? he doesn't have an illness that can conveniently flare up so gotta fake a fall.
if it's true, lol, he earned it.
Sadly it the issue could easily be fixed with a microchip feeder that only opens for who it's assigned to. We're talking her cats lives here but I guess she's going to continue to ignore that Nemo is underweight and Star is obese. Ghost was looking a bit thinner too but not as much as poor Nemo.
She makes good money for someone her age too so she could afford it, though I guess diverting money for an overpriced house, cheap clothes, and especially heroin is more ~satisfying.https://www.chewy.com/surefeed-microchip-small-dog-cat/dp/157145?utm_source=google-product&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=hg&utm_content=SureFeed&utm_term=&gclid=CjwKCAjw6vvoBRBtEiwAZq-T1cKcApyCjgOSEtV6ovLXdAcDr_bXQjaPiI9mWbgBAFKsdCYrXyJMGxoCuQUQAvD_BwE
Clients who relapse are evicted immediately.>>677032
Previously she stated
>I rehomed them while I was in rehab>I refused to consider rehoming them during the first 3 weeks of rehab>in rehab for 23 days
So you made your list, conducted multiple interviews, and moved them in 2 days? While still inpatient?
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It was deleted. anyone catch what it said?
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Sorry, here’s her comment again >>677096
Tinfoil but I bet that’s why she’s claiming it was a rescue. So she can justify to her fans why she owns a controversial morph. Easier for her to be like “but I wescued hims” versus “yeah I wanted it so I bought it off craigslist”.
Also tinfoil: wonder if that’s exactly what she did—bought it off Craigslist—feigned ignorance about the 1-2 month rule, and pulled a “but what am I supposed to do with him nowww I just bought him and all his stuff and guy who sold him (won’t take him back/creeped me out/was abusing him/other convenient lie) so what am I supposed to doooo” and they let her keep it.
Honestly the way she’s talking about revoking has made me at least 80% sure that those animals are dead. She’s moving Mushu who’s hard to move and looks to be her death bed but won’t move some of the easier animals or snakes.
And if by some miracle those animals are not dead, she is simply having a bit of a clean up before she starts getting more new animals and formally moves out of the sober living space herself. She’s not making anything “easier” other than her hoarding addiction
She also said that the Rehomed animals will be nearby and she can go visit them whenever she likes, most of them anyway. This just isn’t realistic if she gave them to a rescue imo.
Basically her whole rescue story just isn’t realistic at all even if reptiles are harder to Rehome than mammals.
If the cats have been with Jen, I wouldn't be surprised if they've been in hiding due to the stress of not only moving, but they also have a dog that has probably been up in the cats faces at some point and stressed them.
When cats go into hiding they will stay there for days and weeks even.
He looks skinny as fuck.
Also, if you're going to rehome the animals to "make it easier" on yourself, why wouldn't you rehome the high maintenance ones like umm the rats? She shouldn't even have cats, moving them from house to house is not good for them.
Does she plan on locking those snakes, cats, rats all up in one place BY THEMSELVES and only visit them during the day!? Are those animals just supposed to literally live on their own down the street and have to wait on Taylor to come visit for a couple hours a day!?
LMAO CAN YOU IMAGINE THIS
>"So Becky did you find a job.">"Yeah I got a part-time job at Walmart.">"That's great, and you Taylor?">"I rented a place nearby so I can go and look after all my pets! That's my job! I get millions of views on Youtube!"
She actually thinks being an 'animal carer' is her job. How insulting to all the people who work in the animal industry. Looking after your pets isn't a job, Taylor. YOUTUBE is your job. You make videos for Youtube.
Honestly the fact that she is saying her snake is fine and is just being 'goofy' is what pisses me off the most. Your snake is not fine and it's really your duty as an 'influencer' to inform your audience of the potential dangers/ethical issues with stuff like this. I have no doubt the majority of her audience have no fucking clue these snakes have neurological issues (which is why she's trying to downplay them).>>677144
I don't understand why she doesn't just move her animals and make YouTube videos from the get go. There's really no reason for her not to do it too - she doesn't have to explain her heroin addiction, her abusive
relationship or whatever else but she wants to for the sympathy points. Hell, she could even establish an actual upload schedule.
Taylor (because we know you read here), the majority of your audience does not give a shit about your personal life. They just want to see some cute animals that you neglect daily.
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Oh my god just keep your story straight and this wouldn’t be a problem
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She really can't stop herself.
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Nothing is ever her problem.
So this rescue is a temp place? Whatever you say, Taylor.
This is dumb. Not WK but her original post made sense. It’s clear she wasn’t bashing bisexuals but the wanna be girls that say so for attention.
She’s dumb for retweeting and bringing this up though. But again she loves attention!!!!
yup, you can bet her paradox banana ball python "Frank" is gone. There was a sign on his cage that said "asshole" or something similar iirc, he was "cage aggressive" or something like that.
Any BP geeks know what morph that new one is? Looks like common bumblebee to me imo, one of the first combo morphs that showed up (probs common enough for Petco)
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So how much is this gonna cost her? Paying for 2 places?
But again, rehoming and then getting a new snaked whether rescued (BS) or bought, this bitch is retarded as fuck and only thinks about herself. Water is wet though right?
She can't even prevent herself from feeding into online drama, knew or old.
How she gonna stop herself from not relapsing if she's this impulsive?
She's said so many times she's done with online drama, and now she's re-addressing drama from 6 years ago… Address drama is about all she's done since she got out..
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looks like a bumblebee to me… (pic of a bumblebee for reference)
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One thing it's not, for sure, is just a spider. Pic attached is of a spider, not the same pattern at all.
None of it really makes much sense since the animals won't be in the sober house (other than maybe the cats). If they do somehow fall under their 'policies' then that also makes no sense because it's not just a few pets, it's up to 10 (if not more) and that doesn't seem to be allowed. Nor do they realistically fall under 'work' because then she shouldn't really have a pet in general.
I wonder if it will be a case of 'gotta wait a month' and a month later 'soon!' and that soon never really comes until she moves out.
At first she’s couldn’t be bothered to talk about her animals because “I’m getting dicked down by my platonic friend who I’m obsessed with and love. Also stop being annoying-my page isn’t just about animals.”Platonic dick bro friend nowhere to be foundTaylor OBSESSES about her animals and rehomes 13, but acquires a new snake
If she doesn’t know what a dim witted twat she is by now, then I don’t think she ever will.
Oh great, here she goes spreading more misinformation about animals again. But now with something more serious like the Spider morph.
Taylor, yours has a wobble. It just might not be very noticeable (but the photo of it unable to right itself speaks for itself). it's IMPOSSIBLE for that snake not to have a wobble because the very first ever spider ball python had a genetic wobble. It passed it on to every single spider baby. Yours has a wobble. Stop spreading misinformation.
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It bothers me here how and in >>677163
too how the snakes were “not her issue.” So who is the issue, will we ever know what’s really happened? And she’s admitting that there ARE issues, even though she swore everything was fine, she was never in over her head, she’s an expert, she knows what she’s doing, we’re all big meanies for ever questioning her, blah blah blah. Bitch even you know that’s not true. You fucked up and hoarded beyond what anyone can care for and instead of admitting it and creating a fresh start, you’re rehoming the problems and replacing.
Btw, your obese snakes in their shitty set ups still are very much your issue.
One of the very very few ways you can break your lease (in most states) without $$$ or legal issues…is by claiming to be the victim
of domestic violence.
That is why they made police reports so long after the fact, to get the Protection Order. She wasn't afraid, it got her out of her lease AND she gets to play victim
didnt she say she rehomed some snakes???
literally right here>>676836
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So many things in this caption … but why does she have to wait a month to rent a separate place?? I don’t get how they’d know if she doesn’t say anything anyway.
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Idk it looks at lot like this bumble bee on morphmarket. I know bumble bees are usually a lot more yellow but some come out grey/brownish or darken as they age
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Okay so she said she rehomed feisty or live eating snakes to help her mom out but we’ve seen photos of Sabor since. Why keep a more aggressive snake?
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Same with Duck. We’ve seen her recently but Taylor has talked about her being aggressive yet she still has her?
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Prada is also a snake that doesn’t seem very handleable so she may have been rehomed
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Then Tate/Frank. She says Frank switched to f/t. However, I remember him being labeled as a jerk, I just couldn’t find a post. So Tate might be gone because he eats live still. She also mentioned in a post Violet switched to f/t. Anyway, I was curious which animals fit her “feed live or feisty” phrasing so I started scrolling through her Instagram.
Same. I almost wish Mushu would go already because at least she wouldn't be suffering constantly anymore.>>677199
$5 says when she finally admits it has serious genetic problems she tries to bring back the EDS shit to flip it into "but we're peeeerrrrfect together because we're both genetic messes!"
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Why won’t she leave this damn snake alone? Reptiles in general need time to settle in especially ball pythons who are more shy and, even more so, a spider morph whose issues can get worse with stress!
Also a lot of people recommend keeping spider morphs with more serious issues on paper towel so they don’t accidentally get a mouth of substrate if they miss their prey so her aspen might not be a wise choice for that reason.
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Her stans are so fucking gross. Taylor wasn’t even mentioned by name, but this stan just had to run and tell her. If she relapses due to “bullying”, her stans will have a hand in it. Taylor didn’t even have to know she was being discussed.
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He'S jUSt A gOoFy GuY yA'lL
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Also I rewatched the apartment tour after she tweeted saying the walls and doors were full of holes from Jonny all I saw was this one dent in the door to the en-suite bathroom that I’m pretty sure has been posted here before
Not saying she’s lying about him trashing the apartment, Chelsea made similar claims, but all I could see in the video is this one spot ….
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Our queen of good decisions is at it again.
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Forgot the pic
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Also, what an ugly font. At least get some delicate, feminine looking font. You know, something small.
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YOuRE tAKInGggg bAK yOUr BoDy IM SuH PROUDDD
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didn't they unfollow each other?
Emilee deleted all her collabs with TND and spoke out about cutting her out. am I right?
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why does this immediately remind me of divine's drag lol
I don't understand how she thinks its healthy to get 2 unplanned tattoos within 2 weeks.
She probably didnt like the one alone.
it looks so unbalanced now. she should have gotten smaller more delicate looking font.
but thats what happens when you do shit impulsively.
she does that a lot as we all know.
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More tattoos coming apparently!
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I'm sure you did, Taylor.
The tweet at the bottom, she's saying "I haven't been able to get tattoos for a year because of my track marks"
anyone feel like counting up all the tattoos she's gotten in the last year (i.e. almost all of the tattoos she has)?
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Apparently they both have a history of sucking at animal care. No wonder they got together.
……the name ;)(don't use emoticons)
she is obviously so proud of being a druggie, seeing as she brings it up every five seconds.
Absolutely not a single soul in any universe:
Taylor: drugs ruled everyhtijng around me, i was on china white [the worst you can get].. i also do coke and other drugs because addiction is a genetic disease. did i mention i do drugs?
Of course she had to throw something in about her track marks, even on a picture of a tattoo by her collar bone. And of course the tattoo is drug related. Who gets a sobriety tattoo this early? It's pretty well known in the recovery community that they're never a good idea incase you relapse, especially so soon. But how would she find a way to bring up how HARD she had it without this "ask me how I'm a victim
" stamp? I'm surprised she didn't get it on her face with a syringe next to it.
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boy is she posting a lot today
because she's so uwu special and they know they are in the presence of a youtube star and are relishing the opportunity
seriously though it doesn't take "an entire sober house" to look after one snake that just wants to be left to chill.
Yeah the dagger looks even more of an afterthought now. I bet someone mentioned it being a good idea to add to the hasley lyrics and that was why she ran back and added it.
Lol at her thinking the acronym dream hasn't been around forever and that it's a miley cyrus song. If i saw someone with that my former self would've talked to them only because to be that blatant about using (and i guess mostly only other addicts would know) I'd think that she would be good for getting drugs/being crazy/a using friend. If that makes sense. Basically the opposite of what she's portraying it as
well, not that
This. Taylor is dumb as a brick.
I doubt Jen's homeschooling helped, but Taylor was never going to be a nuclear physicist. Fuck, I don't think she could handle driving the short bus.
"Hey everyone! Look at my tits!"
trash, just trash. the tats are on your collarbone, tay, you don't need to pull your top down that far.
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Tinfoil: Anyone else get the impression emzotic is getting back on the taylor train?
I was going to comment on how surprised I am that the track marks tweet isn't pinned, but I looked and sure enough it's the first reply to the pinned tweet. She's so predictable. Now that I'm actually looking at them, specifically the last picture that is of just her arm, something is extremely off. I kinda noticed it before but didn't maximize it. Now that I have, I'm going to go so far as to say it's photoshopped. Hear me out. I was an intravenous drug addict for years and this just isn't what it looks like, especially "hourly use". On anyone. I'm going to have to jump into detail here. Why are the bruises all the same flat shade of yellow? And why are the puncture wounds so shallow and sporadic? This looks more like when you scratch your skin too hard and get those tiny red dots, although I'm not sure what that's called. Mixed with some yellow photoshopped on. Bruises at injection sites on a bunch of different spots of your arm are not going to all heal the same or look that uniform no matter what stage of healing they're in. They're going to be yellow, sure, but they're also going to be purple, blue, and green. Even if this was days after, the puncture wounds are still going to at least be slightly raised and a tiny bit larger than those are, too. I'm not going to post any here but Google "track marks" and compare. Scroll through those pictures and compare. Where does a single person have that light yellow bruising all over? The bruises are all dimensional. It wouldn't even show it was all from the same time because it's a bunch of different spots on her arm, so bruising would be different even if she used a brand new needle for every poke. The bruising will always vary naturally but also due to different veins being at different depths, having to "dig" to register, and the needle starting to dull every time it's removed and stuck back in. I thought for a second she could have possibly taken a skinny pin used for sewing or something and poked herself just through the very first layer of skin where she saw veins going, but I don't think even Taylor is that desperate for attention. I don't doubt that she did shoot up, and I know people are going to say I'm reaching. But I'm 100% confident that it's fake. At best it's a few actual track marks edited to look worse. Honestly does anyone put that by her? Apologies for being so descriptive, but this is really disgusting to me that someone would do this and I want you guys to see where I'm coming from.
Hate to say that I really think she's exaggerating something like that, but not sure I'd say she went this far.
Also former IV user and her track marks aren't even close to a regular iv use much less hourly. She really only had any the last month or two (since the axolotyl vid) and the dots make me think they used 31g shorts which I've seen Johnny with in a pic. It was clear she was going for surface veins and didn't have a clue wtf she was doing so I wonder if she waited until bruises faded just enough to garner attention but not be omgz scary! But yeah tracks usually look so much worse especially when you don't know what you're doing. So I think Johnny was shooting her up often enough but she was also doing it because those are mistakes he wouldn't make (shitty small shallow veins that are subject to damage) also I don't believe her veins are as fucked as she claims. I have collapsed veins and they can still hit some for blood tests despite scar tissue and whatnot unless I'm super dehydrated, but that applies to everyone.>>677437
also have to agree that a lot of this seems like being a picker and maybe having semisensitive skin
Half of the time on here, even with people as blatant as Vicky Shingles I barely notice photoshopping. I'm just not observant or whatever. But this made me suspect immediately. And yeah IF those are real there's no way it was all Jonny with his 15 or so years of IV experience. >>677447
Do you kind of see what I mean? It still is a reach but I can't think of anything else that would cause little red dots that close together. She does get marked up easily.
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I don't think she realizes that yt isn't going to be forever and that rn it's not a natural lull she's literally killing off her audience and not realizing how much work people put in to get one. Videos on addiction aren't very advertiser friendly
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Her eyes looks pinned to me in these photos she just posted. She’s in a dimly lit room so they definitely shouldn’t be that contracted.
I don’t want to assume she’s relapsed already, but it does look suspicious.
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having people like taylor around even if it's only na meetings can really shit it up for the people there who are genuinely wanting to work the program and get better. hearing her shares probably sets off cravings for a lot of people. i hope the group and/or leaders tell her to shut up when she starts jerking herself off about how romantic it all was.
she's a toxic
cunt, but her type is pretty common in recovery and tbh she's probably getting bitched at often. too stupid for it to stick, is the trouble.
Didnt she make some garbage @Taytay on Youtube? Stop it Em, I have minimal respect for you either.>>677286
Someone give this woman an award. Obvs not Taytay>>677477
So weird that disaster just seems to follow her everywhere. Now that's less people to look after her snake for her, before she brings in the other 23+ they allow because taytay be speshul
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WHennn iNn r3alitEe iM JuSt a DRuG AddiCT
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it's not worth the whole vid.
I get she maybe likes the song but posting it with the lyrics is, uh, yeah
Inb4 the internet triggers
Taylor into relapse and she complains about it… on the internet.
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Here is the full size image since anon posted a screenshot.
In addition to what you said, why was she using the small veins in her wrist when she hadn't even used all of the veins in her elbow or forearm?
Also if she’s in therapy for 4-7 hours a day (which ever one is supposedly is) how does she have the time to be on the internet all fucking day as well as running around getting tattoos, seeing her animals, accumulating new one, etc.
sounds like bullshit to me
a bit off topic, but that fat louslittlezoo chick is also a wanna be. She also now goes on about her depression or anxiety and bcof that she won’t post for a few days etc. She’d also constantly comment TNDs post with the hopes of getting attention. Idk why people wanna be like this train wreck so much.
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I honestly feel like the rehoming/rescue shit is bullshit, what I think what could have happened is Jen has been trying to take care of the animals by herself this whole time on top of all the things she already needs to take care of and got overwhelmed, maybe something got sick/died and she “rehomed” some of Taylor’s animals and that’s when Taylor called Jonny while she was in rehab and Jen had to run to twitter to complain and the whole thing about her possibly getting any of her animals back is complete bullshit
I could be wrong and the animals haven’t gone anywhere and are all still just getting the bare minimum care but the way she tells it the timeline doesn’t add up
It doesn't make sense because she posted a picture the other day with that part of her arm facing the camera and you could see in the daylight she had a vein going down her forearm which is probably the second most common injection area. But dOCtOrz tOoK hOuRs tO fInD a vEin! It's so obvious what she's doing. To everyone, especially former addicts. If she was anywhere near as bad as she claimed she'd be left with nothing. Her definition of bad is not wearing foundation in a picture. Think about that, there are people with AIDS and hepatitis out there homeless and sucking dick for one hit of dope and she'd probably say she was almost there. Or she'd think it's cool.
She likes having a "story".
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Would this be pills giving her that effect /if/ she used? Also,
Would she be able to hide if she was using again? Maybe not H, but pills?
It's blurring because it's scabbed over, which is a normal part of the healing process for tattoos. once the wound heals completely it will look clearer again. you need to chill with the "wow it looks like shit already!" when you don't know what you're talking about.
yes it's a shitty tattoo but the linework is better than a lot of her other tattoos (not that that's saying much), can we drop it for now until we see the final result
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Taylor not knowing how to tell time again… She posted her first tattoo in 2017, she's been getting tattoos for a little over two years now. Idiot.
I wouldn’t be shocked, I thought she relapsed the day she stayed up tweeting till 2AM (whenever that was now). Her romanisation of drug addiction can’t be healthy, especially when she keeps talking about it and showing pictures of it.
There’s obviously addicts who have been sober for ages and make that a central part of their identity but they don’t talk about it the way she does. If they did, I honestly don’t think they would be sober.
I'm thinking the same.
At first she said "A friend" and then earlier she's turned it into "4 of my friends".
Whats the chances they went out and then decided to all get high together.
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A pic of a bedroom from the Hartford House's gallery for comparison.
Could very well be that she is part of that fabulous 4 that relapsed. It wouldn’t surprise me if she isn’t there anymore but tries to play it as if she still is there which is why she got that tattoo.
Also sus because she hasn’t shown that 30 day chip when she shows off everything.
She’s obviously just staying in a hotel/at a friends/somewhere else after lolcown Doxxed her
I wonder who’s paying for all her shit because I don’t see her having much or any money left.
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Good old Jen always confirming and suggesting stuff.
Honestly, I have said before that Jen is generally supportive but at the same time she sucks at keeping things private
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The sad thing is she thinks she is so unique and different, the sickest junkie out there. But if she sticks with 12 step meetings for a few months she will see how many come out of rehab, act righteous, claim sobriety for life, hook up with other newly sober addicts, make impulsive decisions in the name of sobriety, exaggerate and glorify their use and then ultimately relapse, rinse, repeat. Maybe she won’t see herself as a special snowflake anymore then. Nah, I take that back, she will always see herself that way.
*Dear Miss Cyrus,
My daughter is Taylor Nicole Dean and she’s a famous YouTuber (I’m sure you know who she is). She’s a recovering heroin addict and I was the one who got her into rehab. Now that she’s sober, she’s been listening to your music a lot. Should I be concerned that she relapsed?*
OR she asked Miley to hand write some lyrics so she can go and get them tattooed.
I don't think all her friends actually relapsed.
SHE relapsed and can no longer be around people who are still in the sober house. For obvious reasons, she doesn't give a shit about her or anyone's sobriety.
Well if we take a look at the previous year, how often did she cry "I'm sober! I go to a clinic! I'm doing outpatient! I only have a cider here an there"
She's claimed sobriety so much that I don't believe shit anymore.
I feel like the only reason she's doing all this is because the online heat got to much for her and she thought by doing this it would all stop, could have been a way to get rid of Jonny too but honestly this bitch lies through her teeth so fucking much and is so so messy, Ill bet she's using already if not within a month again once she gets enough ass pats and people lay off her a bit.
Where's her sobriety chip? Nowhere, just like the "photos" she was gonna take at that outpatient clinic she was at.
She's full of bullshit.
She's fried her brain.
She's not gonna change.
She’s probably going to claim that she is visiting her “friends” that relapsed in the extended stay.
I’m sure she didn’t relapse on her own though. Her type is toxic
to be around in early sobriety. She probably got 30 days and figured she had good control over her use.
It is a very unnatural response to pat yourself on the back to this extent only 30 days after getting sober. Yeah, saying "guys I have 30 days" would be fine but to talk about it constantly is absurd. You kind of feel like shit when you get clean because you realize how bad you fucked up your life, your relationships, your money, your career, etc. I think she's putting on a big show for Jonny, a big "look at me, look how great I am without you, my new bf, sober living 4E" and publicly trashing him and blaming him for her addiction. When people do shit like this, it's for a reason. She was very upset about Jonny finding a new girl while she was still in rehab so I think this is all just a huge front to get back at him.
god the upper lip, her bags
no wonder she is trying to look like some bad big lipped chola with the eyebrows, pony tail, tats, and hooped earrings
She looks like a boring busted white bitch
like her mom+ shayna mixed together
Which does seem like she has relapsed.
No chip to show off? So sus.
Yeah I can see her trigger
the fuck out of people around her, and also people online with her posts actually. On her Insta I saw someone also point out how her track marks post was triggering
. And her stans attacked lmao. >>677693
I find it interesting she appears to have stopped posting about him, and it seems they were together when she took those photos of her arms for her track marks post. Day later "a friend" relapsed. My tinfoil is she made him relapse.
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Holy fuck the first post of the day and it's riddled with defensive behaviour and drama related.
Can she not ignore people? Does she know how to use a block button?
I swear she LOVES this kind of stuff.
Yeah you worry about your "image lmao"
This is why she's a cow and will forever be. Narcissistic cunt.
Honestly what did she expect from that guy?
That some in love sobriety fairytale would happen?
She knew the guy for a month, doesn't mean you truly know somebody and addicts are notorious liars.
It could have been his 10th time in rehab and he could have said it was his first time and she'd believe him. She's an idiot, she's so naive and would believe any word that comes out of a human's mouth as long as they have a dick attached to them.
I hope he didn't relapse and he just realised what a dramatic psycho she is after finding this site.
It's almost 1pm in the afternoon where she is and her social media addicted self has only just posted and it's drama related.
I highly doubt she's sticking to any program, I think she JUST woke up.
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Gotta defend and enable their queen.
If she doesn’t really post during the day then that would lead me to believe she actually is still in sober living. I feel like she’s still going to meetings and classes and shit, but she is definitely falling apart.
She could also be recovering from her most recent relapse with her “4 friends” (which I assume includes Jake).
Relapse is a part of addiction so I feel like kicking those out who relapse is kind of counterproductive? But I’ve never had experience in a sober living home so idk if they just kick you out or continue to work on you
Wow she's woken up extra defensive today.
I wonder if it's because we're catching on to what's really happening with her right now.
She's going to go full meltdown soon.
She will never be fully recovered and always recovering, that’s a part of addiction from what I’ve read/heard.
It’s like she picks and chooses what to be accountable for, which is just another part of the dishonesty recovering addicts face.
I genuinely don’t think she’s trying to be lying, impulsive, naive and plain stupid. She’s just young, privileged, born with money and with ridiculous parents (at least her mom is crazy).
All of these consequences everyone keeps telling her will happen, WILL happen. She’s just never experience rock bottom before. Some people who are born with nothing who become addicted don’t hit rock bottom until they’re in their 30’s (from personal experience with a loved one) and even then, after hitting rock bottom they’re never the same.
She will never be the innocent little pettuber everyone once thought she was.
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Those botched lips tho
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Definitely a hotel. Also, is that blood?
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Ahh yes, her natural lips… (sorry I am new to this site and don't know how to reply?)