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22 year old "family friendly pet mom" Youtuber, her 32 year old junkie ex-boyfriend Jonny Craig, and her creepy controlling mother.
Previous thread: >>>/pt/676017
The basics:> Taylor is a notorious animal hoarder known for collecting 40+ rare and exotic pets and manhandling/mistreating them for the sake of her Youtube channel which has over 1 million subscribers. Many pets have died in her care, many more have fallen ill due to her neglect or disappeared after "rehoming" them. Fails to give proper enclosures for many of her pets, including overstuffing fish tanks, keeping her kittens locked in the bathroom, and her mouse and hedgehog in the closet.> Jonny Craig, who has very recently become Taylor’s ex and has moved in with his dad in NY state, was the frontman of the band Slaves and is most well-known for being an outspoken abusive junkie. He has been in and out of rehab centers for a decade now and has been kicked out of multiple bands and off of tours for his behavior. He is usually homeless when he does not have a girlfriend to leech off of.> Several of Jonny's ex-girlfriends have come out with stories of Jonny's physical and sexual abuse, including rape at knife-point. His ex Chelsea confided this in Taylor when she and Jonny first started dating, in which Taylor's response was to laugh with Jonny and make a public spectacle of it.> Taylor loves to throw pity parties for herself and dodge around the real issues when faced with criticism about her husbandry, hoarding, and hypocrisy. She can never keep her stories straight and will tell outright lies only to contradict them hours later. Her fans are sycophants who only encourage her.
Facebook (private:) https://www.facebook.com/Taylor.Nicole.Dean
(currently deactivated as of 6/29)
List of all Taylor's pets:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QNUksDcQk_cqLTkTFTiPjP2pCGBQgORyCesIIqvZ2Zs/edit?pli=1
Requires update of new frog, tarantula, crabs dying and all the fish outside of the 150 “rehomed”
Stats of Taylor’s pets and history:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1e8bakM4GHa2J1y4qwYsB-T0jSpN5uWCI_q0dv-odij4/htmlview#
New Milk:>Jokes about getting her 30 Day Chip (see OP pic) and says she's still settling on which NA she likes most to get it from soon> Acquired a new snake of a breed known for its neurological problems, claims it to be issue-free (just “goofy”) and a rescue. May be shopping for more snakes> Appears to have been visiting friends in a hotel who left rehab for relapsing either multiple days in a row or overnight, took her brand new snake there for funsies and a photo op> Despite the new acquisition, says she rehomed a great many animals while in rehab. Hasn’t been clear when, where to, which ones or exactly how many>Jonny has been sadboi eating, says he fell and broke his toe, and is staying quiet for now> Plans to rent a place in Austin for her pets and as a base to work from Youtubing while fulfilling the job requirements of sober living> TND leaves rehab early, reactivates Twitter, immediately starts blaming Jonny for EVERYTHING and takes 0 responsibility for her own mistakes> Has already moved out of the atrium house (as if no one saw that coming)> Says she's in a sober living house that's "not a facility" despite having a curfew and on-site staff enforcing rules. hints at plans for moving out soon> Posts photos of select few animals outside of their cages (except the rats, of course, are always in their inadequate cage)> Nemo has clearly lost weight, Star is chunky as ever. whoever was watching the animals was not being careful with proper feeding> TND claims that blatant lies she has tweeted in the past were really Jonny using her Twitter account. Will unblock people he made her block, but anyone who made her "feel negatively" will remain blocked> Promises to apologize to Jonny's exes that she's burned in the past, gives no timeline of when she might do this, says she just wants to "have fun" right now> TND claims to have begun process of filing a protective order against Jonny for herself, despite no evidence in public court records to support this> Claims Jonny tried to get her to sign an NDA but she refused. Says it took her "like 10 tries" to leave him> Confirms that texts between her and Chelsea in Dec 2017 are real, but quickly deletes confirmation tweet. > Jonny, in an incredibly uncharacteristic move, is silent on social media, refusing to bad-mouth Taylor, asking others to leave him out of it (possibly because he believes he still has a chance to get her back)> Mama Dean tweeting her usual passive-aggressive threats of spilling milk> TND changes Twitter bio to include "sober date" or 6/5/19, but quickly removes it within a day or two> Anons speculate Taylor is manic and/or has already relapsed, and that's the cause of the ridiculous Twitter bender she's on> TND meets new boy toy (Jake) while in rehab together, immediately latches onto him while insisting they're "not really together"> Starts acting a hoe on Twitter, talking about how Jonny didn't fuck her for "13 months", she was "mentally single" for a year before splitting, and she wants to slut it up now that she can> Takes sneaky photos of Jake when he's not looking, spam-posts them to Twitter because he doesn't have an account. gushes about how hot he is, says she wants him in her videos because "he's funny"> Posts obvious after-sex photos with him in a hotel room. He finds her PUBLIC Twitter account, texts her about it, she short circuits and begins deleting tweets about him soon after> Ironically calls him "super platonic best bro just friends" yet says she loves him and could consider marrying him ("just kidding! or is she? she is… or is she?")> Couldn't be "by herself" for any amount of time, as she didn't break up with Jonny until after she had found a new guy who "gave her the strength" to ghost him> Gets her fans to pester Halsey to write song lyrics by hand for her, tattoos them on her chest, looks real bad sis> it's infinitely clear that while she may have detoxed in rehab, she did not learn anything about herself, or the trait of humility> immediately back on her bullshit of "not caring about the haters" yet acting incredibly defensive about everything> Doing EVERYTHING that professionals tell you not to do during recovery (moving house, impulse tattoos, new relationship, heavy social media use, etc.)
> Recent Known additions to the hoard of animals: Spider ball python (possible name might be be Chip or Cobain)> Recent Known Deaths: ~> Recent Known “Rehomed”: ~ (many but not named yet)
Videos which sum up the drug addiction situation: https://youtu.be/IczGyFh0LBghttps://youtu.be/9tblAt5NX9w
Old Milk:> Taylor deactivates Twitter after announcing she has broken up with Jonny> Posts on multiple platforms that the relationship has ended but begs people not to tell Jonny. Deletes posts very quickly after> Something happens that sends Taylor to the hospital for unknown reasons> Jonny moves out WHILE Taylor is in the hospital, has someone drive him to NY State in a U-Haul truck with his most expensive toys (computer and some shoes and stupid Funko pops) in the back> Jonny swears up and down they are still together and he only left to "take care of his dad for two months"> Mama Dean confirms Taylor is in rehab for heroin addiction (surprise surprise she's been using all along)> Jonny receives calls from Taylor while she is in rehab. She acts as though they're totally fine, and she will visit in NY as soon as she gets out> Taylor is telling everyone a different story depending on what they want to hear> Mama Dean spergs out when she realizes she's possibly being lied to> Jonny is already talking to new girls, receiving gift packages from other women, is definitely not sober in NY> Posts photos of his father's gun (he legally cannot own one bc of his restraining order from Chelsea) and pathetic attempts to threaten people> Taylor stops calling Jonny and he throws a pity party for himself, taking a page out of her book by scheduling streams yet never following through
Unconfirmed Milk:> Taylor might be out of sober living, relapsed and living in the hotel herself> Getting evicted from the new house> TND is trying to complete her “redemption” to youtube> Jonny has already sold $5k+ computer set-up to buy drugs, has not mentioned streaming in a week or two> TND has already relapsed, or is having some other mental breakdown causing such overactivity online> Photos of black snake (Salem) with possible mites, TND claims is just aspen (bedding) dust
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General Pettuber Thread:>>>/snow/831551
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From the last thread. She's making it very obvious she is still in a hotel. Girl relapsed already.
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Her lips are permanently ruined. Gj Taylor
Every pic she's digging herself into a deeper and deeper hole. Obvious hotel setting in the background, posting her sitting on a bed that's obviously not a twin.
Watch she says she upgraded rooms at the sober house to a suite so she has more room to play with her snake and for the eventual cats
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it hardly needs saying but this same art is everywhere in this chain of hotels
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So she had multiple outfit/hair and makeup changes on this one “visit” to her friends hotel room? Ooooookay
This looks like a fucking heroin kit to me. I can't make out the objects but look at the bag. It doesn't look like she had anything with her in that hotel room except that either. And the snake haha. It reminds me of those purple Crown Royal bags everyone using keeps their stuff in.
I don't believe the house tour thing either, why would a sober living advertise as pet friendly then make you remove the pets? Especially something in a tank that you can't just grab and people won't be allergic to. I have been to multiple sober livings and although I've never been to one that allows pets, the standard is just cleaning extra well so the place doesn't look so lived in and making your bed before people tour.
Also, the anon who said Suboxone has Naltrexone (Vivitrol) in it is wrong, it's a common misconception because Subs have Naloxone (Narcan) in them. It's supposed to block opiates/opioids (and usually reverse an overdose) but you can usually still "break through it" a little with a large enough dose. Even if you can barely feel it, most active addicts would take the tiny opiate buzz over nothing. Naltrexone is impossible to "break through" for about 3 or more days after stopping, and besides the daily pills called Revia they normally want you to get the shot in rehab which lasts around a month. It's a hard commitment to make, so a lot of addicts don't want to do it. But if Taylor's claiming she is doing 12 step meetings then she's picking and choosing her recovery, they would never ever encourage Suboxone maintenance especially after 30 days completely clean. They look at it as "replacing" one thing for another.
I have been on Subs for years and don't think about getting high at all, ever. Even when I somehow end up around it. I also have a real life. 95% of people who voluntarily attend 12 step meetings are newly clean or dry drunks who still are obsessed with getting high/drinking and need to sit around and tell war stories about them shooting up whiskey or some shit. My opinion has always been that it's honestly a toxic
environment for anyone serious. No one I know who is serious about staying away goes anywhere near those. Rehabs and sober livings usually make you go and use the 12 step model because every other method is "unconventional". AA tends to "have more recovery" and have more people serious about it, but you normally aren't even allowed to actually admit you're an addict and have to replace "drugging" with "drinking" when you share. NA is kinda notorious for not taking anything seriously and is a revolving door, literally almost everyone there has under 2 years clean and still has other extremely unhealthy behaviors even if they aren't sticking a needle in their arm. Both drill that you will always still have the obsession with getting high into your head to make themselves feel better about still having it, and because that's what the outdated 12 step model pushes. It is "the only way", as written in the big book and they truly think that. It's extremely cult-like behavior. I don't know anyone "half in", everyone is either completely brainwashed by it or wants nothing to do with it.
She's probably going to order one online and make up some bullshit excuses until it's delivered, or just keep up the bullshit excuses.
This development is not surprising, but it is very disappointing.
One other thing anon,
those shorts in that picture (on the bed) are the same that she has on today in the bathroom.
and before I forget, I used to get my lips filled a lot at different places throughout the country and I would guess she has 3 or 4 syringes of Juvederm based on before pictures and the size of her lips now. Full syringes are always at least $400. She's spending a ton.
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hoe hoe siwa? I have second hand embarrassment.
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so did she lose her license and I missed it, what happened with this? she was able to drive not that long ago or am I imagining that. do they ask people to give it up while in sober living?
Right, Taylor, this just happened. Like she didn't go out and buy a bag of chips to be quirky.>>678049
She might mean she just doesn't have the physical copy of it with her. Sober livings will usually encourage you to get one if it's not suspended or anything. The goal is to try to get you as close to "normalcy" as possible.
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Or do you mean on instagram?
The other thing about vivitrol is that she's been claiming to be on it since her daily clinic bathroom selfies. So it makes even less sense for her to back up to talking about subs.>>678049
May have expired? Someone else would have had to buy her all her precious ciders though.
everyone’s diff anon.
I use subs and get high in between re-ups.
Been like 2 years. She’s prob “chipping” for all we know.
I call bullshit on her sobriety dates
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She is so confusing to me ,,y’all. “Going to talk to a doctor about it tomorrow” is a blatant lie for her in my opinion, just like the one where she was visiting a friend in their hotel for a few hours, now it’s been days. I can already see her downfall, again.
That will be $25 for the hotel picture montage services, thnx. payable to Anon.>>678066
Why can't she have the shot since she's been clean 30 days. What's going on here.
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I’m not saying she is or is not using, but I did notice a plastic baggy. Again, it can be something totally innocent and it was just something that I noticed in the picture.
could be, could be makeup too
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Shorts pictures in the background of yesterday’s image, and she’s wearing them today. Very obviously still in the hotel. This bitch is a compulsive liar, and a junkie.
I don't normally like correlating stuff like this either but you're on such a schedule in sober living, normally waking up early as fuck naturally. At the majority I've been to someone will wake you up to see if you're okay if you're not up by maybe 10ish latest. Plus there are apparently 12 other people in that house, they're gonna be loud as fuck. >>678083
Same, dealers know that too and hang out outside at the end to find customers sometimes.
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Never forget this gem.
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She’s the biggest fucking liar! she shows herself driving in her cheese funeral video, the one of her moving her axolotl, and in that crackhead video Jonny posted of them on fb
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She will definitely use everything in this thread to excuse leaving sober living and we will know just from that.
A part of me feels bad for her but a huge part of me expected this - addiction isn’t a choice or whatever she says lmao
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I have a feeling she slept in that outfit. I think she "spent the night at her friend" aka it's her hotel room. I wonder if she is so adamant on lying and denying about the hotel so her parents don't know and keep thinking she's being a good girl.
Zooming in, her face reminds me of when my father was off his tits. She doesn't look sober at all in this. Look at how her mouth is. >>678048
Suuuuuuure. Totally wasn't making the same joke over and over thinking she is real clever and funny. She is such a joke.
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this must feel really sad and lonely. if it's really true she's relapsed and is living in this hotel and not telling her parents and getting help getting back into detox, fuck. what a way to live.>>678129
the snake has been seen in the hotel room with her, she says she had
to take it out for a visit >>677947
The dumbest part about her recent round of lies is that she could have EASILY covered up the hotel stay by staying that the sober living facility requested that she not take identifiable pictures of the house, then edited her selfies or taking ones in nondescript locations. She wouldn't have even had to change her behavior at all.>>678136>>678137>>678138
This saga is straight-up pathetic and hard to even laugh at. She had a great opportunity to get all aspects of her life together, didn't take it seriously, and pissed it away in less than a month to rebound with another junkie. If she thinks that her life was bad when she was with Johnny, it's probably going to get much worse from here on out, any financial support from mama dean notwithstanding.
does anyone know if the halfway house has a limit policy for relapses? Or are they no tolerance? She can find another in no time, but they have waiting lists. Her other programs should still not care. The avg opiate IV user relapses a looooot before the 5 year mark.
I think she needs to get probuphine stuck in her arm by her parents so she CANT use.
I hope she does start vlogging. Get your popcorn! She might as well make $$ off it, right?
Watch her start using her 2nd channel now… haha
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Lol at her avid fan here that tweets at her 24-7 too.
When she first introduced Jake, kid you not, she tweeted “does she have a sister” like 3x. Loser person attracts loser “fans”
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So she's def there. The rules say they can stay out overnight so she probably did that with her relapsed friend and her snake - as you do.>Every resident must spend at least 5 nights per week in the house>Residents cannot stay out more than 2 nights consecutively
Good for her that she's still there.
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I wasn’t going to say anything because ‘muhh stop wk-ing’ but some people just happen to have small pupils? And she seems to do have pupils that are on the smaller end. (pic related is from 2015, so she should not be on opioids)
I mean, there is a lot
of inconsistent bullshit (missing coin) and she sure seems to still lie about basically anything. And I do also take >>678166
with a grain of salt because who knows when that picture was taken.
But good god, there are some people here reaching
phew it's kinda good to be wrong
cue the anons coming in "this website is for MiLk not for cheering her on" blabla whatever
sus though that we have not seen photos of Jake, so to me, he relapsed after finding this thread.
if with him, she would have posted his photos in any way shape or form. Ie: his leg, the back of his leg - you know, to show people (aka jc) that she is with a boy.
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For someone as obsessed with their looks as Taylor is it must be hard to see how much she’s completely fucked herself up in such a short amount of time.
Good call. Or she’d say her “bro friend”.
Sage for ongoing speculation.
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Real mature Taylor.
So above the drama right?
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So apparently it’s still Jake.
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Greasy scalp but still cuddling with jake, maybe he’s a keeper
Also disappointed but not surprised on the name choice. This poor snake has really bad luck in life
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Holy shit shes so cool
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…Jesus Christ the entire tweet chain is just such a mess. Imagine being abused by someone and blaming them for everything and then just saying “yeah I’m no longer a fan”
Like what are you even doing Taylor?
Sabor is my favorite of her snakes. She deserves more than he dishes out tbh. I honestly think she keeps him around because she believes that one day, he will be a docile creature that never bites. Then she can go on about how she tamed the savage Sabor.
“He bit me all the time guis, but I tamed him because I am good at snakes! “
maybe the deal was that she could only go see her pets if she is sober?
Would jen do something like that?
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Keep pretending like you dont constantly check here. Hi Taylor!
Honestly these people probably join in the conversation too or run to twitter to see if stuff is true.
You’re all as bad as us already it’s ok.
Chips are totally optional, not everyone cares about getting them. I was in a program for 6 months and never bothered to pick one up because I didn't need a token to prove anything to myself. 5 years clean now, still never got one.
You can also lie about your clean time and get chips you haven't really earned. It's not as cut and dry as some of you guys think.
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>>678223>Jake lives in sober living with me but we cant fuck so he has rented a hotel room for the past week just to fuck me!
Is that what shes saying now? This man who is supposed to be focusing on getting clean has not only a sober living place but also rents a hotel room to bang her? They both seem to apparently use this hotelroom as a literal hang out while they apparently cant be in sober living until 10pm even tho we have seen pictures of her hanging out there midday and frequenting the place
This bitch i swear, she aint clean and either lies to the sober living or does someshit cause from the reviews alone we know they're not Alkatraz.
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What lie?!? How about the fact that you can’t even keep your story straight about how many people relapsed. For fuck sake.
that seems counterproductive, putting too much emphasis on being clean. We're taught that thinking about opiates is the first step in a relapse. Harm reduction faces the realities of relapse, maybe she can find a home that has a strikes policy… but I think we all know she'd use it as an excuse to use. She'd probably see the strikes as "free spaces" until she gets "really" clean… ugh. Normal advice doesn't work on this terminally unique bitch.
Thanks for the info anon.
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Taylor her literal Twitter cycle is she'll come in stirring the pot, have a melt down about it and then retweet stans sucking her ego. Pathetic. But no hate in her body at all and she feels pity for the haturz.
Cause we can't trust a single thing you say, you dunce.
Give us a run down of what was rehomed. You don't need a video. Your thumbs seem to work pretty fine for all the time you're sperging on Twitter.
You say you don't read here, but weirdly enough you address issues being brought up here. So you're either reading or your hoard of flying monkeys keep you up to date I suppose.
You've broken promise after promise about videos and such because you're "waiting to feel better" yet you seem well enough to spend a stupid amount of time on Twitter.
You're little more than a glorified whore right hoe that happens to have cool (albeit neglected AF) animals that didn't ask to be put in your lousy care, and then bragging about how much you LOOOOOOoooooooOOooooooooVE Jake's dick to your fanbase which are majority young adults that might get the impression drug use is so awesome and rehab is a joke because that is what you are treating it as.
If I had a kid that started following you, they'd be grounded.
Sit down, Taylor. Shut the fuck up. Go to class. Get a job. Throw your phone in a lake and actually focus on something other than "your platform" which might has well be a dilapidated front porch made of plywood.
Sober living says they need to be out of bed and have their chore done by 10am on weekdays and 12pm on weekends. So why would they 'want' her out of the home starting at 7am?
Plus telling everyone to leave 7am-10pm is ridiculous also because of meals, obviously they're not gonna force everyone to never make their own meals. And like another Anon said, people who are working need a place to come back to before 10pm.
I just don't understand why she lies about everything maybe she's addicted to lying too
wtf are you doing right? you’re doing the opposite of everything that’s suggested to you in recovery, making tasteless jokes about sobriety, reminiscing fondly about the good ol days of shooting dilaudid, your fucking twitter handle is using a literal child as a perverted joke. Do something respectful and maybe you’d be respected?? Wowww ikr.
I also want to point out that Taylor has joked about accusations against her in the past as a way to make them look unfounded and too ridiculous to be true. “Hey guise i wasn’t actually really sick with muH EDS, i was shooting heroin!! Haha Crazy right? I abuse my animals so much! I got my sobriety tortilla chip!!” It’s not her ~super dark, quirky, dry humor lel~ it’s an attempt at deflection because she got caught. She has lost all rights to benefit at the doubt. Your fault Miss Hoe Hoe.
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Her lies are exhausting. The original friend who relapsed was a guy, coincidentally at the same time she stopped mentioning Jake's dick. Now it's 2 girls then four friends? Sure, Jan.
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I'm just gonna block she says
Sober living according to Taylor:
We don’t want you hanging out at the facility all day, so go hang out in hotels.
Exactly. Hanging out in a hotel all day is no different than hanging out in sober living house all day. She would know that if she was taking recovery seriously, obviously the reason for that rule is to get people out doing productive things.
Also, if she isn't allowed to be there from 7am-10pm or whatever, that means the snake is alone for 15 hours? Or does she take it everywhere with her?
She is becoming even more of a fucking mess. Shocked anyone believes this shit hahaha
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"They're obsessed!" Coming from the drama / "hate" addict herself. Rich Taylor. Very rich.
to be fair, if you had a bunch of randos playing detective and drawing the conclusion that you'd relapsed, you'd probably be pissed too.>>678207
she's clearly just being sardonic>>678223
Two relapsed drunks and a two freshly-sober junkies inhabiting the same extended-stay hotel? Sounds trashy as hell if it isn't a lie >>678233>and now its been hers for 6 days?
Perhaps Jake is Taylor's new sugar baby
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I just did some ‘research’ after seeing her post and looked at a ton (50+) of snakes sticking their tongues out to see if they fork immediately. I have snakes but don’t pay that close of attention. Anyway, consensus is they should be forked as soon as they stick out from the snake’s mouth.
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If people didnt already know she was at Hartford before, she definitely made sure they do now.
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She knows she doesnt need to. She wants to be found for the uwu drama
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what happed to us getting her kicked out of sober living by “doxxing” her…
I also suspect it's due to the silent treatment being bigger torture for her tbh
I genuinely hopes he will stay quiet about her for at least a year. She keeps us up with the milk herself plenty and so does mama Dean.
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She is literally going for round 3 today huh. What happened to just blocking? >>678312
Tinfoil but got a feel it's our cow truly her self trying to bait and claim how much pain she is in. Also gotta add she only speaks about EDS when she needed to get out of doing shit.
I hate how relies to what seems like new anons or strangers to her are always met with “lurk more”
Not everyone gives a shit about her and in all fairness she ever only mentions it when it’s convenient
this is exactly what I'm thinking. He's not ruining any chance he might have with Taylor('s money) until he has a new gf to buy him drugs and toys. I wouldn't be surprised if he tried to get back in contact with at least one of the other exes, too. Didn't he try to bounce back and forth between Chelsea and Liz before he got with Taylor?
Anyway once he moves in with whoever the new girl is, he'll go on about Taylor being his ~most crazy ex~ or whatever, especially if her PO against him isn't real.
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These two I swear. Contradict themselves constantly.
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Delusional and grandiose sense of self from mommy.
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It took her two whole days to come to that conclusion?
I know she was being 'dicked down' for the majority of it but come on.
According to Taylor the friends had a hotel room because they'd been kicked out for relapsing (number has changed from 2 and 4)
She said the next day she cut them off, but was still in a hotel room.
Now apparently she has had a hotel room at the same extended stay for 6 days, despite no prior mention of it. The snake has been spotted at the hotel as well, but that was in the room of the relapsed friends.
Also! Her recovery house was cool with relationships, but today she says they are not. So that's why they got a hotel.
The hotel is for their hookups according to her.
If you're confused, so are we.
Are hotels really that chill with you having a snake?
Like you know… if we run with the whole 'they want me to take my snake with me if they do tours' thing she was/is running with you have to also add the thing she said earlier about having numerous tours from 7AM-10PM (which we obviously know is pure bs). So her snake literally has to go with her everywhere. So that means she either has two set ups that she moves the snake between or she moves the entire cage and both of those make no sense or are practical.
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Thought it was just guys with hats Taylor?
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why does she always look scraped up and dirty. also track marks on her hand or??
The extended stay pet policy says pets are welcome, but it's a $25 fee per day.
So realistically, yes.
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The stans are making me SICK
If you take a close look at her animals, Emily, most of them are getting ill, are overweight, and poorly housed. BYE!
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See I'm a good pet owner hehe checkmate haters
She’s making it so clear she reads here because I highly doubt any of her stand picked up on something that small when they think her snakes are healthy
She may as well come and talk to us
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I’m the one who posted the Instagram screenshot and info about tongues and RIs. I wouldn’t have more than glanced at her picture but someone commented about the tongue looking like an RI and then I took a second look. (That being said I looked at so many snake tongues and they fork right away so I guess Celia has a deformity)
She’s either lying or exaggerating about the snakes being excited to see her. What’s more likely is that they associate her scent with being overfed and thought it was buffet time. Jen probably was not feeding them as much as they’re used to if at all, so the poor things probably think they’re starving or literally are.
She’s posing with Duck outside so it’s more likely that the snake is stressed and also leeching her body heat. I’ve seen snakes wrap around people’s arm and just lay their all chill at reptile expos. It’s not that they love all these random people. The human body is nice and warm to chill out on to snakes, especially if it’s an arm that’s just holding them instead of flinging them all around with a camera in their face.
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So funny Taylor.
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How long till he is overweight?
Wonder if that'll cause his wobble to be worse if he is overweight.
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Addiction is a mental illness guise!! In the mean time she's being a dickhead mocking strangers.
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Posting a homeless inebriated (probably mentally ill) man on your twitter and mocking him as whack.
She's a fucking psychopath.
"Honk honk" is a retarded white nationalist meme. Taylor has probably just seen it spammed on social media and is unaware of its nature, though.>>678368
Yes, it is painfully obvious, no need for a bunch of anons to speculate about whether senpai notices them ad nauseum
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Instead she will just tag a place that's within walking range.
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Yeah, nevermind the fact she posted a video of the man being in "Austin"
I genuinely think she has a brain disability.
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Also taylor: shares town
That doesn't work with her narrative that she has psycho stalkers tho nonny
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Not sure if the same goes for reptiles, but for anarchids this would be very dangerous to do due to risk of parasites etc.
But then you tag the shop for your second tattoo.>>678348
Nice tattoo infection risk.
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Not a wk but i was creeping her ig the other day and noticed her hands have always looked kind of pudgy and swollen? This cap is from 2016. But i'm not sure, maybe it's just me
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She has left this whole interaction up lmao. She is so reckless and stupid. Wonder if she is gonna return to Twitter today.
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Her stans are so insufferable and stupid. They enable her stupid recklessness.
the funny thing is no one is gonna go stalk her. she really thinks shes that special. we are just using the info she releases stupidly to put 2 and 2 together.
youre not some famous person worth wanting to meet, tnd. calm your tits.
She looks dirty because she probably is. It’s substrate-dust from the snake’s enclosure that was on the snake itself.
They’re animals, after all, so they’ll never be 100% clean.
And I don’t even know what you could possibly see as track marks. You should stop reaching before you pull a muscle, js.
oh god, you are right, she has slightly greasy hair on a summer day in texas.
That's really awful because … … why exactly?
Like, I get the lying, the entire drug abuse/sobriety stuff, her lips, etc. but … c'mon. She's in rehab and even though her hair is
, in fact, greasy she doesn't look like a total slob.
You guys need to chill your hate boner for a second and focus on what's actually milky.
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She’s such a proud junkie.
Except I bet no-one said that Taylor and it's still lingering in your head from calling another man a crack head just in your earlier Twitter spaz.
Figured mentioning she wouldn't come back to Twitter for the night would lure her right back out.
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This bitch. She's so fucking toxic
. Shes the type of person who fucking thinks any attention is good.
it must be exhausting acting like a perpetual victim
all the time
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Can we copy strike pewdiepie?
I'm glad someone else picked up on this.
Taylor, just so you know- honk, honkler, clown college, etc. is all alt-right rhetoric for how "nonsensical" support for minorities, feminism, or liberalism is. You look like a racist for using those terms.(derailing)
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>>678466>I don't have access to the desktop version of YouTube rn
Oh? Did Jonny sell her laptop?
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Damn. He knew heroin was how he could keep her under his control. What a creep.
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Taylor's brain is special,
anon. It's not like that crackhead's guy's brain, for example.
Fucking hell, she can't even say it was Betsy (I'm guessing) and her Mum who helped her get into rehab. It was GOD? LOL WHAT.
Also seizing and puking over herself in the bathroom, but she totally can look after all those animals… apparently this wasn't enough of a reality check for her since they've just been shipped off to her mother's house to be babysat. I actually feel bad for Jen. She's a full time carer for her PWS son, and on top of that she has this ungrateful little cunt of a daughter who can't even show her appreciation for her by getting her into rehab. Instead the instant she's out of rehab she talks about getting dicked down, glamorizes her drug abuse and gets tatted up. Oh and of course, gets a new animal while Jen cares for the other 50+ in her own home.
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Im not entirely sure that Celia has a deformity because her tongue still looks stuck together in this pic. I think she has a minor RI caused by improper ambient temps and high humidity.
I've dealt w/ a minor RI before and the excess saliva caused the forks to stick together but not every time. I've watched back on my live pics of my hognoses and their forks split as soon as the tongue peaks out of their mouth. Hope more western hognose keepers can comment on this, but what's happening w/ Celia's tongue looks like what happened w/ my sick snake.
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I found some videos on Youtube and slowed them down to clip what I mean about the tongue forking on western hognose as soon as it comes out of their mouth.
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Thought on the anagram? TPEEC?
She was literally posting depressing shit to bait him on Twitter each time he went away on tour and that would have been the best time to leave. She honestly just had so many opportunities.
Don’t get me started on these addiction stories of hers either since they all seem to be changing bit by bit from each other.
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I realized that I could do the same thing on one of Taylor's videos that featured Celia (she handles her so horribly omfg). Hard to see in the second screenshot, but it's the closest I could get to show that Celia had a normal tongue back in September 2018.
I only say minor IR because it can be treated by increasing the temps and lowering the humidity if caught early, but I still recommend a vet check up. I'm just worried that because she's away from her snakes now that she wont have time to stop it from getting worse or spreading to her other snakes.
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I swear she has seen one too many chick flicks. She immediately locked every door and broke down sobbing? She really is trying to paint this tragic love story image, only for herself. While the truth seems closer to her manipulating and using Jonny as her walking H needle.
"He would always assure everyone I was fine while I was miserable" not only is that a blatant lie as Jonny plenty of times would say "Taylor is really sick right now" and cancel or reschedule his stream. I recall it recently even set off speculations of withdrawals. >>678522
So well put!>>678548
Yeah she's been spouting this for waaay long now as her crutch. Also now she has an addictive personality started in the very early threads already. >>678541
I think she is trying to bait and attention whore so she can then post some snarky remark how the "moo cows took her bait" and her being superior and all that.
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She changed her location to this. Wowe you're so funny Taytay.
Wow so clever and quirky, kween!!! She's so good at not paying attention to the haturz.
Anyway, shouldn't she be getting to bed already since she has to be "out of the house" by 7am??? Lmao
>>678559>"He would always assure everyone I was fine while I was miserable" not only is that a blatant lie as Jonny plenty of times would say "Taylor is really sick right now" and cancel or reschedule his stream. I recall it recently even set off speculations of withdrawals.
Maybe she meant ‘fine’ as in mentally or ‘is taken care of’.
And even if she did mean fine as in ‘in general’: she said in the exact same thread how she was or at least wanted to be high 24/7 so I wouldn’t blame her if she just either didn’t know, didn’t realize or doesn’t remember he was saying those things.
Like, the story still paints her as the victim
so your point still stands, but I really think you’re reading way too many intended lies into this.
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ONLY used heroin for a year.
Also Taylor: "when my tolerance went passed the strongest heroin I could find i switched to it. It was cut with sooooome heroin and sold as China white but it was definitely fent">>678570
Don't take me out of context as act like I'm pretending Jonny is innocent you dappy twat. I'm just saying Taylor isn't innocent either. >>678571
I imagine they both to the outside world wanted to come across as fine due to her being a youtuber. Hence why she lied for so long and denied her addiction. Strongly doubt she wanted him to go "shit guys gotta go shoot up Taylor real quick she withdrawing brb ". They both put on a facade everything was fine.
I could kinda see Taylor wanting to quit and Johnny kinda actively keeping her from getting help though.
Not in a super obvious ‘he’s keeping her hostage and shooting her up against her will’ kind of way. But in a very subtle way in which he would isolate the two of them from the outside world so she didn’t even really get the chance to reach out, even if she wanted to. And I do think Johnny is much deeper into this rabbit hole of addiction and that Taylor would at some point have (at least subconsciously) wanted to stop. Not like she ever seriously would have had the willpower.
So yeah, obviously she didn’t want everyone to know exactly what they’re doing, but I could see her (unlike him) wanting someone who could save her to actually see what’s going on but Johnny just never would have allowed for this to happen.
Don’t know how much of this is projecting though, kek. So sorry for rambling.
Some people just have self-destructive tendencies. For that her mental health actually is partly responsible. If you're mentally unstable, you make decisions you deep down know are bad. You just can't help making them anyway. Also: a huge lack of impulse control. People with addictive personalities (as in: people with mental illnesses that make you prone to addictive behavior) tend to seek short-term gratification. They'll immediately get hooked up to whatever gives them that boost of dopamine. They lack the ability to reflect on their behavior and act accordingly because their brains/bodies will be like 'but feels good'.
But Taylor would never admit that she's just
weak like anyone else with a mental illness. So that's why she paints Johnny as the bad guy that maliciously hooked her up before she knew what happened. That's truly not how it works. She just gave in without ever taking a step back and questioning anything.
A rinse is when you take an old cotton and re-use it to get any dope that's left in it.
THIS is actually one of the ways to get cotton fever since old cottons gather bacteria really quickly. Which is why it's usually a last resort.
Can you please stop cowtipping
We are having generous amounts of A+ organic milk so don’t ruin it
Yeah that's exactly what I was trying to say. How manipulative she is on her social media is a big indication to me she is a lot worse in an actual relationship. She is a big emotional manipulator. The entire situation with Bree also is very telling. She wants everything to be both ways. She wants to be the biggest addict, victim
, but also baddie and strong badass hoe. She doxxes herself, deletes traces of that and screams she has psycho stalkers. She screams she is scared of Jonny but continuously taunts him. She acts like her location has to be hidden no matter what but then blasts it all over social media not even a day after. She constantly lies and contradicts herself.
Jonny is a disgusting piece of shit, but Taylor is too. And she used him as a pet. He is comparable the dying green tree python she got.
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Just noticed this one, and if this doesn't scream she still reads here I don't know what does.
Eeeehhh I think he's just choosing to be quiet. It's the better option. Let TND bury herself.
Right now she's just spewing hearsay to her hugbox. Unless she posts proof of him using her accounts to attack his exes, I don't buy it. The wording and the behaviors of those conversations match her syntax. It has been said before. Only our shitlord TND can be the bad guy in a relationship with a drug addicted abusing rapist. That's 20 kinds of special.
But how can you have this opinion when he has raped and drugged people?!
Anons here are so quick to jump on Jonny and give Taylor free passes.
"tortured artist" omfg more like talentless rapist. we stan
when your hateboner for tnd makes you "respect" jonny craig it's time to stop
Let's not go there again, anons… I think most of us aren't retarded enough to think that jonny is a widdle helpless addict who just wants to make his music but is manipulated by evil women.
Taylor is a shitbag too, though, and is definitely manipulating the situation right now to paint herself in best light possible. the truth is somewhere in the middle.
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taylor's up and tweeting
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Lmao here she goes posting yet MORE pictures of all her surroundings to further prove which sober living she’s in. Jesus this girl really tries hard to be a victim
. She is doxxing herself repeatedly.
She's already contradicting herself wrt her stories about Jonny though. It's never 100% true with Taylor.
Saying he shot her up every single
time (with two exceptions) but that when he was gone, she shot herself up and her supply&rinses lasted her four days before she had nothing left. two injections (if her original claim is to be believed) won't last a "every hour on the hour" junkie for four days.
It also screams she knows nothing about about shit she’s “extremely educated about”. It’s 1cc to every 100units in a u-100 syringe.
It’s something any person who has to administer medicine to animals via syringe should know, let alone the biggest junkie on earth.
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Compulsive liar is at it again
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It totally wasn't like you blasted your location all over with the tattoo place huh Taylor?
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What is it Taylor? I though you said you had to be out from 7 am to 10 pm?!
I'm pretty sure she reads here sometimes and then realises her lie/exaggeration was shit so she changes it to something closer to the truth.
At the same time, she may just be jumping from one statement to the next just to fit the situation.
I'm actually finding it funny how seriously she took the whole 'she's no longer in sober living' stuff though because she clearly needs to reference it constantly. Unless that was because some anons got her in trouble by calling the sober living place.
Jesus why are ALL of her snakes so grossly overweight>>678685
she said "they want you out from 7 to 10", >>678225
not "you cannot be here at all during the day". cmon y'all if you're gonna try to ridicule her, at least remember what words she used, otherwise you're just giving her more reason to scream about how incorrect we are about everything. They want people to be doing productive things and WORKING during the day, which she's admitting she's not doing because she's just hanging out in a hotel room. but she never said "I get forced+locked out at 7 am and they finally let me back in at 10pm"
Can we please stop cowtipping and trying to make her any more miserable? If she's still in that sober living and constantly people call there, saying she's fucking with Jake, keeping a snake, is a hoarder and probably relapsed…. don't you think they'd eventually kick her out because she's so problematic
I know she posted the stupid tattoo place she went to, but since that one anon posted the sober living she's at, that shit went down.
I don't agree with what she does as well, but posting her location (even though she's posting hints as well) and calling the facility she's at ucks and shouldn't be done imo.
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Honestly, second this. I’m an active thread user but finding her location every time she moves is a little excessive/obsessive. Not to mention dangerous if she did actually have any psychotic followers/JC was crazy enough to do something.
I agree, she’s a huge cow/compulsive liar but maybe don’t post her locations if you recognize. If someone is really calling her sober living, it could just be some crazy that reads here for that information.
i didn’t mean she was lying in this tweet exactly. I was calling her compulsive liar as if that were her nickname. Learn to read.
She’s at it again with tweeting about online drama when she’s above it.
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Are you really
sure about that, Ashlyn?(ban evasion; derailing)
I think it’s ok to post her location even after she provides clues. We are allowed to put 2 and 2 together especially after seeing many times she’s a known liar.
Calling her sober living is a bit much though. Let her get kicked out on her own.
Calling her HOA for animal neglect though is something else and can’t bring myself to say the same about let her get kicked out on her own.
Animals > tnd
She's changed her tune from,"when he was taking bathroom breaks he was shooting me up!!!" Insinuating no choice to,"when he took bathroom breaks it's because I BEGGED him to shoot me up"
So which is it Tay? Were you tragically forced and abused into it or were you begging for it of you own accord ?
Are you kidding? Stop it.
Fags like you are the reason any lc user is labeled obsessive and crazy. If you have that much freetime just spend it on anything else than trying to doxx and threat any users who write their mailadress into the email field.
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She has alluded to it though. That is the problem. She's changed her tune so many times, and leaves certain pieces vague for a reason. There's more room for implication/speculation. Her story went from "he was shooting me up" vaguely to "I needed him to take breaks to shoot me up" and "the drug dealer came over and he asked me if I wanted to get high."
Her story has changed. It leaves a lot of room for confusion.
Alluded as in literally used stories from his exes that she probably read here to begin with. There's a reason one (if not more?) don't want an apology from her.
It's like her also saying that Jonny controlled her Twitter yet there are multiple times she and her mother basically told his victims
to fuck off.
Tbh I think she wants to be kicked out, she is literally taunting while posting proof(pinned eyes) that she is using.
She wants the drama and attention she will get from it, no doubt.
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So she tweeted this earlier but it’s now deleted. I thought she said she was hoping to get ON subs soon?
She did say she took subs when she couldn't get heroin >>678491
Her story is consistent.
Different anon. Taylor's terminology is wrong. But other anon isn't wrong/ what are you saying?
Buprenorphine is a partial opiod agonist. It's high affinity but low activity. It's for moderate pain because it binds to mu receptors with high affinity but reduced maximal effect. It's "low abuse potential?"
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Obese as fuck
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don't you get it, anon? anytime taylor has tweeted something unsavory or something now appearing to be a lie or proven to be a lie IT WAS ACTUALLY JONNNY behind the keypad! if it was taylor tweeting, then jonny was FORCING her to by ABUSE AND MANIPULATION! taylor is a victim
and has been victimised and had no control over any loathesome behaviours she's shown in the past bc it was all jonny's fault. did you know he's a rapist? he's a rapist! he's responsible for ruining this precious angel taylor who was such a shining light and full of hope!
nothing is her fault! it's her genetics or it's jonny's fault and if you disagree you are an obsessed stalker and a rape-apologist!
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I recall that too, and that like 8 out 10 or something were a couple/ hooking up?
Deleted because forgot to sage
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You cowtippers hiding yourselves in this thread are really fucking cringy. The person who took the hotel art montage and posted it 5min later
on twitter like it was EvIdEnCe is also really fucking cringy. Get a life and stop harassing someone in real life who lives in a sober fucking living. Learn to control yourselves for a minute.
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Taylor said she didn't want her channel to be about her drug use/recovery about a month ago.
Now that she realizes she is getting asspats/positive attention, she wants to pick the camera up. Huh.
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"Time to acclimate" pretty sure he should have been left alone as soon as he was put into his new set up
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yaaaaas we stan a rapist!!!!! girl, if you don’t stop with this bullshit. just because taylor is a huge asshole it doesn’t wash away all of Jonnys sins. y’all were lowkey Jonny stans up in here this whole time??
I know I’m gonna sound like a bitch but I really don’t have any sympathy for Taylor at all. she wanted the “experience” and that’s what she damn well got. she’s a fucking fool. only things I care about are those animals.
I’m late on this but she couldn’t have had that high of a tolerance AT ALL if she was able to taper off of heroin in 4 days. On my rough runs, my doctors would have to extend my standard 5 day taper (that most rehabs use) by at least 2-3 extra days because I was so sick. She said she detoxed on subs from the 4-8th so this just confirms that her whole “I shoot fentanyl look at me look at me” shit was a lie. I don’t think she knows much about heroin at all, which leads me to believe she’s not done. I certainly wasn’t done when I was only 2 years deep into a toxic
relationship and just started exploring with IVs and using myself, not just following my partner. She will have a lifelong struggle with heroin with many more relapses and rehabs.
Statistics show 99% of people relapse once addicted to heroin. There’s a 1% success rate, it’s fact.. not my opinion. Is Taylor really in that one percent? Like obviously not.(blogging)
she's so loud and proud about her ~1 yr of hardxcore heroin abuse~. how strange is it that you hear LESS from the girls who were kidnapped by ariel castro, held captive for 10+ years, chained up, brutalized, raped repeatedly for a decade….. they got free and all made a decision "i'm not going to discuss it, i'm moving on with my life" and are all doing well, working with different organizations and contributing to society without bombarding everyone they meet with their I AM A VICTIM
taylor is a giant piece of shit. she grew up in a 2 parent home, had a bedroom of her own, celebrated holidays and had birthdays acknowledged, had every opportunity to have a decent and wonderful life even if her mom is a retard who never mentally grew out of high school. she had it good, and even before jonny CHOSE to go partee~~~ and do petty drugs. she stalked a guy with nothing going for him, a loser drugee, and she decided to do heroin and now she won't shut up about it.
also, would bet all my future earnings she wasn't going as hard as she claims, someone whose only source of income is youtube dollars could hardly afford rent, hoarding animals, and scoring quality h every hour on the hour for a full year for themselves (much less 2 people) without ending up like luna slater selling her sagging vag and begging to get the next fix
taylor ur a poseur dude
She doesn't seem like she's done. Talking about roxies, fent, and all of the hard stuff she did, and how much she loved it. It genuinely does not seem like she's done. The replies talking about how her life is better now that she's clean just read as disingenuous. I think she's happy she's getting so much love, and support now. I think she's happy about the attention. But I don't think she's done.
She's not following the rules all that well, or somehow seems to think the rules can bend for her.
She's not being honest with any of us, so how could she be honest with herself?
She can't even be truthful about lip injections, let alone the 90 stories she's concocted in the last three days about the hotel room.
Taylor's little sobriety kick wont last for long.
She shows no genuine will. She just wants the aftermath, and praise of sobriety. Not the dedication, and seriousness that it takes.
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The stans are at it again
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Big lie they’d still test you honey
she's special guys!
but I think they'd naturally test someone who had stayed out, especially since she met up with some evicted residents? just seems like a normal time to test someone who is new to sober living.
anyone lame enough to pick up a phone and call this place needs to kys.
the helpful tip still applies
there are absolutely cowtippers lurking in this thread like >>678065
It’s always been a fantasy with Jonny where he wants the girls he’s with to use with him, she already knew that prior to being with him thanks to plenty of people sending her reasons not to be with him but she’d just tell everyone to shut up and “his ex’s are crazy” and maybe give the block.
She acts like she didn’t know until she was too deep but that’s complete bullshit. I don’t think supply is ever really an issue with Jonny especially when he’s hanging out with people who actually make money (at that time Taylor)
She probably paid for his teeth to make it look like they weren’t doing drugs.
Whether he begged her or she just did with him we’ll never know because Taylor lies about everything but somewhere she had said she was with Jonny “just for the experience” (I believe to her mom?)
I don’t know if that was just for the experience of being with or becoming a heroin addict but again who knows what she started with because she lies about everything and seems to try to exaggerate her drug use for cool points or something
>>678861>he wants the girls he’s with to use with him
I don't know that much about his ex's backstory, but did they do heroin as well?
I wonder how many people Jonny got addicted to it.
Nah hes threatened
his ex'es to shoot them up, atleast one of them. All things which Taylor was told before she even was in a relationship with him, Tay was already a coke head and has stated she dated johnny for the "experience" and at this point its becoming obvious the experience she wanted was heroin kek.
She's using euphoric recall as a defense mechanism. You're actively discouraged from doing this and you're meant to be able to recognize it in recovery.
The fact that she's spouting euphoric recall on Twitter is a bit telling of what is going to happen.
>>678869> The way she is acting is not like someone who wants to be sober, because otherwise she'd be doing everything she can to get sober not sneak around with boys.
How does solely spending time with 'boys' (jfc those are adult people in their 20's) prevent her from getting sober though?
>Why can't she hang out with the girls in her own house?
Women, especially when mentally ill (and I count addiction as an mental illness), can become very toxic
. Especially when living together like that. It's just how women work, unfortunately. Just look at this thread>I did really do heroin for such a long time >look at how she dresses/her lips
It's ten times worse when being forced to live together in such a small space. Which is probably another reason why they encourage them to spend time out of the house, because otherwise things would escalate so quickly.
> Why is she purposefully putting herself in situations that could compromise her recovery?
What exactly do you mean though, I still can't tell?
She spent two nights fucking some guy at a hotel and now visits (another?) guy at his sober living
. She has also talked about cutting people off that relapsed so she didn't put her own sobriety at risk. You can't possibly blame her for wanting to spend time with other recovering addicts because maybe she can relate to them? Also: Who else is she supposed to spend time with? How would going out and talking to complete strangers less harmful?
I do agree that lying won't get her anywhere. But she's in the process of recovery
. She won't magically fix all her issues within (supposed) 30 days of sobriety. It takes a long time of therapy to break down and stop that kind of behavior.
Like, I'm genuinely wondering what you thought it would be like? That she detoxes and once that's done she'll be a completely new person that immediately always does the right thing, speaks the truth at all times, only makes reasonable decisions, gives away all her pets and is 100% at peace with herself?
She's still the same dumb bitch she was before she went sober. She's just clean (for) now. To get over all her personality issues it'll take months
of therapy. Until then jumping onto any lie and take it as proof she's not really recovering or sober is pointless imo.
That’s the point though. She did lie and seek attention before all of this. The constant need for attention is rather a symptom than a personality trait. And to get rid of this kind of behavior is a progress. She‘s still of the very beginning of that. So yeah, obviously she‘ll behave just the same as before. But that doesn’t necessarily mean she‘s faking being sober, you know what I mean?>>678873
See, that’s some valid
points to criticize though not some picky shit like ‘she’s spending time with boys so she can’t be serious about recovery!!!’. I can totally see how what you said can lead to thinking she’s not serious.
Has anyone pointed out the timelines regarding when she got the hotels yet?
Taylor first posted about getting out of rehab on 6/28 >>673792>>678225
On 7/8 she said she already had the hotel for 6 days.
Why would you book a hotel room after only 4 days in sober living? I understand she may have wanted a safe place to have sex but after 4 days?
4 days is also being generous. Her first post was after 2200 so assuming she activated her socials as one of the first things she did after rehab she didn't even stay overnight in the sober house yet. Also she posted she had the hotel room herself around 1100 on 7/8, so she may not even be counting that day. I give it one or two overnights in the sober house before she booked the hotel.
I also understand she may be one of those girls who only get along with boys (lol @ girls after 20 years old who say that…just admit ur a hoe), but from >>678785
why not try making friends with girls that are LIVING WITH YOU rather than jumping ship after literally one day to hang out with ur best bro friend. Apparently it's cool to hang out at his sober living but he can't hang out at hers.
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She sounds like a teenager trying to one up everyone. 'I can't do this because my tolerance for it is just SO high!'
Stay humble Taylor.
Super hard on liver/kidneys? Not anymore than subs or methadone. She just wants subs because after being ~sober for a month it will get you a little high. Why start over after you have gotten over detox? Subs can be difficult to come off of because while the
detox isn’t as intense it lasts a lot longer.>>678902
Sorry, i erased it after i accidentally hit enter.
I still don't get why she would want to go back on anything when she's been off everything for a month now? It just doesn't make sense.
Plus, using Kratom as substitute is an even worse idea, since the quality and potency can vary so much. Yeah, it's natural but that's exactly what makes it more dangerous? And it soothes out the withdrawal anxieties because it literally stops you from being in withdrawal.
According to SocialBlade, her Taylor Nicole Dean channel makes around $6.9K - $110.4K a year. Her Taylor Dean Vlogs channel makes around $28 to $448 per year (honestly not even worth counting). She probably makes more from sponsorships.
– I would say it's safe to say she makes around $100K.
According to her New York Mag interview, she spends about $80 dollars per month to feed snakes. (~1K a year). She says she spent 15K on her 150 gallon tank (but after watching her fish tank haul video I figure she has spent more). According to customcages.com, the cage that she bought cost $5,449.95 per cage. (I think she has two?) However, it is safe to assume she got a large discount since it seems the company sponsored her. The snake rack (from the same company) is $348.81.
– She probably spends around $30 - $60K on her animals.
According to drugrehab.com (let me know if this is not a reputable source), a heroin addiction costs around $53,000 a year, but we have to multiply this by two because Jonny.
– $106K on heroin.
– She has been paying for her house for at least four months now (2,366 a month according to Zillow), so 9.5K.
– Extended Stay Hotel in Austin ($139 a night for cheapest option), for six days: $834.
Animals and heroin alone she is maxing out her budget. She has also been buying designer items, tattoos, lip injections, wigs, Jonny’s teeth operation, and possibly rehab costs if her parents haven’t helped her.
When you look at those numbers its a bit shocking. Not that i can believe anything she says but she did say that she had insurance. If so then that would be another expense unless she is still on her parents.>>678907
I wonder if he took them all when he had the uhaul? Wow did he make out on that relationship, teeth, toys, ugly shoes, free heroin, computer.
IIRC her parents took all her money from her when she was living there (and at the height of her career) so she probably had a bunch of money saved to blow when she moved out.
And don't forget what's his face said she owes a tonnn of money to the IRS. No doubt she is living paycheck to paycheck (if she's not already in a ton of CC debt) and has no money saved to pay off what she owes the IRS.
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Her house was closer to $4k/month on just rent. It likely did not include utilities. >>678912
It's not that absurd. Her finances directly impact her ability to care for her animals. If she can barely afford what she has, she should not be adding to it.
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Yeah that confused me as I seen some people talk about how coming off them was just as painful!
I genuinely do not understand why she wants to get onto something so bad, especially after her deleted tweet >>678756
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I would have imagined with the other visits she would give her rats some attention and love already…
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“he kept comin home high, so I compromised and said ok”
She honestly has told so many stories. This sounds more realistic. he was getting high every day and she got jealous and said “‘me too!!”
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Regurgitate your stans words more Taylor.
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Where she got it from.
But "muh toLeRaNcE!" >>678955
And has left them for over a month. And they will now still not get to see her much for who knows how long. They deserve so much better.
Not necessarily. I think the 'regular' sized capsules (that you can buy to fill them yourself) can fit about 0,4 to 0,5g of Kratom in them. The initial dose for someone with 0 tolerance is about 2-5 grams (depends on the strand and what kind of effect you want it to have) which would already be 4-10 pills.
However badly she's lying about her addiction and tolerance were, considering that she did heroin pretty regularly she must have had quite some tolerance. And Kratom is waaay less potent than heroin.
So 40 pills (or 16-20 grams) is not as much as it sounds.>>678964
There are cases in which people who took kratom were tested positively on buprenorphine. However, it's extremely unlikely for that to happen. It's much more likely to get a false positive for weed after taking pantoprazole.
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This video is a fucking mess.
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Feeder in tofus mouth as she's poking and prodding to get the other from his tail. Calling him stupid in a VERY annoyed tone.
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So Tofu missed the prey item and hit his tail. She needs to set the camera down and get him off his tail instead of recording. I have a king snake who will get worked up and bite her own tail so it’s not uncommon but they can still do damage to themselves.
Also she’s thawing the mice and rats directly in a thing of water (not a plastic bag) so they’re soaked. That’s stupid because substrate will stick to it. And sure enough as soon as she dropped it, shredded aspen is stuck to it.
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"YOU let go of both of them? Now you got aspen in your mouth"
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It's covered in aspen at the end! Ridiculous.
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I thought they called them all Taylor?
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Jen's going to the house twice a day for at least 2 hours? seems legit
>>678871>"mentally ill" recovering women are toxic and should be avoided at all costs>but men are ok and u can wrap ur legs around them every night, it keeps u away from heroin!!
Complaining about nitpicking/muh faxx while making baseless claims about addiction (and women) as if the men wont be just as toxic
. Kek. Also ignoring the blatant issue of Taylors codepdency being part of her addictive personality.
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The other version.
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Someone asked why she didn't feed him in a different container without the bedding, her response is rich considering she did this with other snakes before??
I don't understand why she is feeding them soaked mice.
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I guess she missed at the end how the mouse was literally covered in aspen at the end… but ok. Just that tiny bit!
This is just Taylor being lazy.
Just put some paper towel down over the substrate before feeding. Then there's no ingestion of substrate and no need to remove the snake from it's enclosure. The paper towel is easily removed once the snake settles down after feeding.
Also, dirt is very different from aspen shavings, Taylor.
Normally a bit of aspen/substrate is okay on mice but this is a bit much. I also thaw my mice as she does but giving them a bit of a dry with some paper towel really isn't that hard. >>678989
Cant imagine the snake 'spit it out', she's just bsing. She's right that they can take small bits of aspen (they'll pass it fine if they're healthy) tho.
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Here is another screenshot of how much aspen was on it. It's ridiculous. >>678995
Funny enough she seems to know it's too big as she asks him that initially. But because he strikes at it she just continues. I also hate just how much she is poking and prodding and dragging him around with her tweezers and won't be surprised if he is gonna regurgitate.
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Watching the video again and he actually backs away from it a couple times. Here he pretty much went to the floor completely away from it when she wiggled it in his face.
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can all the anons who acted like jonny is some kind of victim
here please just look at this screenshot?
And the hotel room she shared with Jake where she took pics of them in bed.>>678951
Dilaudid (hydromorphone) is not weaker than heroin. It has a much stronger, but shorter, high.>>678968
A few days ago she said she went from heroin to 8mg Dilaudid to Roxies (oxycodone) which was her favorite. 8mg Dilaudid is a very high dose to inject intravenously or intramuscularly. When taken orally it has about 25% bioavailability; when injected over 90%.
If she did not or could not inject herself intravenously she could have smoked the fentanyl which greatly reduces the risk of overdose.
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Gotta make money from something since she doesn't upload.
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Really she should be going by the weight of the snake but we all know she doesn’t bother to regularly weigh her snakes so. It’s just so fucked up because this is essentially basic snake care that anyone could google and should really know about. But it is Taylor and I’m not surprised.
Ironically the only good thing she said was the moving the snake to feed thing but she has done it before with Toast in one of her videos (fed him in a plastic box within the enclosure) so she could easily do it now too.
I wonder if Jen just drops the mice in for them. The whole moving away and not striking too much was how my hatchling behaved. I wouldn’t be surprised because she clearly isn’t a huge fan of snakes
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Wonder how Taytay gonna react to this type of attention that isn't just "LMAO HE SO DUMB" and critisize her. I think milk about to start flowing.
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Even if they can accidentally eat a little bit and be fine doesn't mean she should have purposefully let it happen. It's something people generally avoid letting their snakes eat lmao
She just doesn't know how to care for her pets ever. If she is such a perfect "mother of snakes" it's something she wouldn't have let happen.
It's possible the snake can get splinters in his mouth also. Just not a smart thing to do. But we all know she's not the brightest crayon in the box.
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She refuses to announce which animals are rehomed "to avoid speculation"
Which makes no sense at all
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I like how she hyper focussed on the enclosure rather than her feeding size and other solutions people suggest.
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She started getting snakes and tattoos in the same year, 2017. So yeah it's only been 2 ish years for both.
Don't do drugs kids
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Psoriasis but sexy has her own thread on here. She was shredded on Tumblr back in the day for letting one of her reptiles die. She currently has a snake that looks like it’s in a shit situation.
She doesn’t have any room to talk.
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Taylor: my snakes never strike at me!
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Here’s when she got her first snake. Silly me I thought mid 2017 to mid 2019 was two years but nope.
Not a wk, but most people discourage moving to feed snakes because it increases the risk of regurgitation. Taylor should be feeding with tongs and over a flat surface (like a bowl or a tile) to stop the snake from needlessly ingesting substrate and not associating her hands with food though.
And yea ingesting a bit of substrate is generally not gonna kill your snake IF your temps and humidity are good. I doubt her husbandry is good enough to justify the amount of substrate on her wet feeders.
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Oh poor Taytay was yelled at.
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But… we've SEEN her walk away while they're eating before.>>679045
Oh my god even direct replies>>679069>not a single one died
Except that one that died immediately upon coming into Taylor's possession.>>679055>My snakes get stressed the fuck out and refuse meals if I move them>Look guys I wore my snake as a scrunchie to my dick appointment
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If the snake is hungry afterwards, and you can’t mice to larger prey, you can decrease the amount of time between feedings. Young snakes can eat every 5 days.
Does she read anything? Jesus Christ.
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By the way, is it just me or is this enclosure absolutely depressing, filthy and just generally bad? It's just a box with poop aspen and 2 shitty hides.
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here’s a tweet from april 2017
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Yup. She got her first snake right around the end of April 2017. Here’s a video she posted about it as well. One thing never changes, Taylor loves to lie about how long she’s owned a pet. “I’ve been doing this for over three years.” You’re literally hardly past the two year mark, Taylor.
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my bad, guys! I thought Toast was first but I scrolled through her Instagram and the first snake photo was what I posted. There’s the first time Maui and Toast are posted on her page. It’s weird she deleted the getting Toast photo.
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Isn’t it crazy how Taylor says she doesn’t claim to know everything about animals, but when given advice, the “professionals” she always mysteriously has around always say her pet handling/care taking is fine?
what is this supposed to be>>679091
Taylor 'obese snake' Dean on reptile feeding guys!>>679145
Can't she just see a doctor, why is her mother involved with this
Thats such a good point lmao.
Also wouldn’t the soaked rats cause moisture IN the aspen and develop mold?
And isn’t there a video where one or two of her snakes are labelled “asshole”? Non-aggressive my ass
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Frank, the “cunt shit”
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Looks like she still has one of the hedgehogs
I mean, I hope she's smart enough to be using condoms and BC in conjunction with each other.>>679226
I mean… yeah. BC isn't just for preventing pregnancy, but in this situation I'm pretty sure that's why Taylor is on it.
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I think she's just having a pity party for attention. Or perhaps it's Jake related, I can see her pull this card too if things don't go as she wants with him. It's ironic anyways considering how toxic
she is herself. (No, not defending Jonny, he is trash. Taylor is big fucking trash also though)
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HAD to move out.. didn't she run away with Jonny to the hotel?
And she's saying that after Betsy is the one who notified her mother, who then made Jonny leave and brought her to rehab. But this random guy, bless him, she owes it to him!! She says as her mother still watches over her hoard.
I really wonder that when she relapses and it's a scenario she won't take Jake down with her, if she will crawl back to Jonny. Because she uses people. They're assets to her, like her animals.
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"Jonny pls give me attention and give me reasom to play victim more!"
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Except you kept prodding and poking and dragging him with your tweezers AFTER he let go of his own tail already and had the next fuzzy in his mouth already. And it made him drop that one too because of it.
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How is she still tweeting about this? If she thought she was doing things right I don’t think she’d be so defensive. Or she’s just deeply insecure. Either way, I really think she needs more time away from the internet.
Everyone who's ever had issues with substrate (impactions etc) will have "never had issues with substrate" before their animal gets sick.
Just put down some paper towel or a plate or something before you feed, or thaw the feeders in a bag so they aren't wet, or dry them first. There are so many options, and she chooses to be defensive.
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Poor thing looks stressed AF. Stressing animals out for photos isn’t cute Taylor
Snake owner here….
I may not have as many snakes as TND, but what I do know is that snakes are not used to having an over abundance of food. If they eat a proper sized meal, and get offered another directly after consuming the first, more than likely that snake will take it.
There are many snakes that have become obese and actually had wAY too many mice/rats undigested in the stomach because they continue to eat before digesting the first meal.
Just because they’ll take the food doesn’t mean they need it. Like another anon said, snakes are opportunistic and in the wild normally never has an over abundance of food available, so of course they’re going to eat a second large meal if offered.
She’s an idiot who doesn’t take criticism, and it’s going to be a detriment to all her snakes health.
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He’s darker now since she’s been gone, but it isn’t stress because it’s always been that way? What the fuck is she on about
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looks like shes getting more animals.
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Doesn't even have her pets moved into her 'new place' yet & she's already
gotten TWO new one.
I thought her sober living had a one pet policy?
Also if she seriously has to move them out every time there’s a tour… lol.
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Looks like she might have tried to grab him by the tail and he bit himself, because that's not his spurs or anything, its way above his cloaca.
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It is this person’s previous snake. Not from a breeder.
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Until you suddenly are "So in love and obsessed with him" right, you hoarder?
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She just posted something with photos of all the cats. Made me think, has she ever said she got Ghost and Nemo neutered? They didn’t come fixed.
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Taylor has been known to impulse-buy snakes before. It's not that far-fetched.
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She's mocking someone for blocking her rabid fans she set onto another person again on top of this. Our queen of blocking.
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Being called out for it
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But they're not properly cared for nor are you in a position right now where you need to get more animals. Is she this fucking dense?
Shut the fuck up Taylor. Your Youtube channel is followed by millions
- That's a big fucking number! You have a LOT of influence & you should already know that by now.
Either tell the truth, or tell your stan-army to stop attacking people, because you've been painting big targets on anyone who disagrees with you for years
now & it's been
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She really has a way to twist things to make shit sound as dramatic as possible and sound like a big big victim.
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She can't admit to how she focuses far more on the "hate".
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that’s true anon, beardies can go dark when trying to regulate their body temp. The problem is that Twisty’s been like this. She came back to find him dark and he’s stayed that way, so it’s recommended the dragon sees a vet to make sure it’s not an underlying issue. Sometimes their colors permanently change in puberty (I feel like Twisty is already mature, I may be wrong though) but the other scenario is more common, so she can’t be risking it. And her blasé attitude fucking kills me “lol who knows why he’s so dark oh well” ughh. You need to find out, Taylor. You already waited forever to deal with his tail rot. Again, no pics of an enclosure. Who can guess what condition everyone has been kept in.>>679414
I have full bets on her not being able to rehome this snake and it going into her collection. She made it known it’s aggressive, finding a new owner may not be easy and so she will just give up. What’s another snake as long as they are cared for! /s
It’s an ‘expensive’ juvenile blood python. Most young blood pythons have attitude issues (like a lot of young colubrids).
Most people looking for an expensive snake like that don’t care or even like it and that’s why they’re looking for the species.
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and maybe even more animals.. if these tweets are true.
right, the cat pictures are also taken at the atrium.. there's no possible way that someone visited twice a day to give all the animals exactly what they need. especially if it was her mom since she's caring for a special needs child. betsy has her own baby to care for. what was the rescues role again? i think she mentioned something about giving some animals to a rescue.
nonetheless, no possible way that every animal that requires attention is giving the attention that they need. i bet a lot of the fish in her saltwater tank have died due to the lack of upkeep.
yeah well she lied and said the cats were with her mom. in truth the cats are still alone in an empty house she lied and say she doesn't have.
also this snake, it doesn't matter if it's a "foster" as she claims. she's attempting to game the sober house system by suddenly taking in rescues that she wouldn't touch before. if the sober house says one single pet, it doesn't matter if you're fostering or owning, it hasn't been 30 days (or whatever probation is required) and now she has two pets there. she's trying to force their hand with 'emergency rescues'.
People are arguing that she lied about having
the house, not where the cats are staying. There´s many things you can call her out for but yelling LiEs at whatever makes us all look stupid, and delegitimizes your argument.
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i wonder how many of them just followed to watch the soap unfold
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Reposting all of the screencaps about the house.
An anon upthread or in the last thread pointed out that having a protective order testifying that continuing to reside in the house endangers her safety would probably be grounds for breaking the lease.
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Posted on the 29th.
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She didn't mention her personal safety until the 5th.
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Really begging for the pity points. It amazes
me how much support he gets. Hundreds of comments from fans sucking his dick
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she's said the cats are there for sure, and that her fish will be there>>676808>>676864>>676830
I really don't understand how saying which reptiles have been rehomed causes people to speculate? People are speculating because she hasn't listed them, what difference does a video make?
Tbh the story has changed so many times, I feel like she's probably rehomed/killed some but needs to be sure what's left when she does finally move them and make a video. Be a bit awkward if she said who she rehomed now and then by the time she made the video more were missing.
I really don't feel like she rehomed any though - makes no sense to rehome some of your animals and then get 2 more in a week.
Wonder how many she bought?
You know money fixes everything!
Next tattoo Taylor?
the second coming of Paris Hilton? are you drunk anon? I know this sounds crazy……but no one is forcing you here! and sage your shit.
OT: I’m not even shocked she got another snake I’m just mad. She’s treating this like a joke. I have no doubt in my mind the “rehomed” animals died, so why bring in TWO more? AND she’s lying out of her ass about not having any problems with them. I don’t get how her fans just go along with her lies? How can you be that dumb that you let this bitch get away with anything and everything?
I think you're a 100% right with that. And she also enjoys the speculation, she's shown that time and time again. Even with this new snake how she initially alluded to it being hers and then suddenly claiming she is gonna rehome. Which I do not believe for a second she will do.
Her fan calling it an addiction and her going along with that shows where her mind is with these animals also. The fact her animals are still at the house, especially the cats and rats makes me so fucking sad for them. They deserve so much better than this. She's doing wrong by them.>>679491
This is typical narcissist shit she's doing, expecting special treatment everywhere she goes. Wanting rules to be bent for her.>>679560
He sounds like Taylor here, ew.
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22k views and only 1600 likes, she even retweeted it for more attention
Guess those new followers give minimal shits sis
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Not sure if anyone caught this, but from her feeding montage yesterday… Her snakes don't seem to be at the atrium house anymore. I'd assume they're with her mom. It's weird she'd leave the social cats and rats in a house alone while the snakes move in with their caretaker.
I'm that anon.
You can break your lease in Texas without $$$$ for 4 reasons. Active military called to duty, victim
of domestic violence, your place gets trashed by fire, flood etc, or if your landlord is a creeper.
Texas Property Code §92.0161 provides early termination rights for tenants who are victims
of sexual assault or stalking, provided that specified conditions are met (such as the tenant securing a protective order).
I still believe they only made retroactive police reports to establish a reason for a temporary PO. Punching walls and consensual drug abuse doesn't meet the standards. Jonny left town willingly when asked, and lives thousands of miles away. I don't know if they will get the PO. Better chances if they go to court, because Taylor Trash is young and white. Her lawyer brother probably helped with this.
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Everybody is just going to pretend like she didnt say those cats were with her mom. Lol
Hi Taylor, we see you and you are a damn liar(cowtipping)
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But why. This is in response to the selfie she posted where her eyes are clearly red and puffy from crying
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Taylor "None of my snakes have ever tried to strike me" >>679059
Let the fucking new snake settle you asswipe.
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Anon was right. Snakes are at her p parents while rats and cats are at atrium house.
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Not strongly against how your rats and cats are lonely as fuck tho clearly.
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"I love his code name"
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Acting like she only transferred him and left him be, but also claiming he bit her 8+ times already ???
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She is so not gonna rehome.
>>679694>>679695>this is how a guy who owns a rescue and would totally know more than me set it up but I'm strongly against it but conveniently never said anything about it in the first place
Sure, Taylor>>679699>that's the only way he'd let me!
so exactly like you hold every single other snake for a photo?
Can we change the Sure, Jan meme to Sure, Taylor because that's basically all her threads are.
Also lol at "his previous owner might have been mean to him" sure mean by giving him to none other than TND
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Probably from letting every single pet onto her bed, never uses any form of quarantine
Or could it be possible that Star brought it in? >>679704
She has mange but IS SO HAPPY NOW GUISE
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Wow you're so witty and funny Taylor.
Won t be surprised if more of her animals have mange honestly. Especially with how much she lets them outside in the grass etc come to think of it.
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"I would never waste my heroin by sharing "
Taylor English isn't my first language and even I understand they're referring to killing your brain with drugs.
I hate how she's constantly getting animals she has zero experience with. Like with Kronos, she clearly was afraid of him but she didn't want to give him away. Even though I'm sure he's one of the ones she "rehomed".
Why can't she leave the snake, who clearly doesn't want to be handled, alone? Does she have to be seriously injured until it finally klicks?
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Did this dumb hoe forget she lit a whole blunt right beside her satanic leaf gecko cage and shared it on social media?
Keeping the drugs away my ass your home was a pigsty and your cats walked all over that bitch.
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No you cow, you always quote tweet so your stans can protect your sore, bruised and fragile ego.
I'm honestly surprised that she hasn't resorted yet to taking screenshots from here herself constantly to make her stans be her self esteem team even more.
Didn't she claim yesterday she was gonna stop doing this anyways?
I honestly think you're right. There is not much I believe her in. I think it's very plausible someone quick helped transfer her reptiles to her parents. And her cats and rats pretty much only receiving some minor interaction a couple times a week.
I believe she is currently still off drugs FOR NOW, but with how toxic
she has been behaving, how she is acting like an addict in so many ways still but with other things, I see her relapse rather soon on drugs too. Especially by the way she has been pretty much acting like this whole situation is all fun and games. Clearly this has not shook her to her core at all yet. She isn't disturbed by it as many others are.
Thanks for the info, anon!
Do you know what the procedure is if the sheriff is unable to serve him? It appears she cannot get a temporary order without him being given the notice in person.https://www.bexar.org/1442/Protective-Orders
PROTECTIVE ORDER PROCEDURES
Once the application has been approved, a protective order hearing will be scheduled in 2 weeks to give the Sheriff's Office time to serve the perpetrator.
The Sheriff's Office will hand deliver the paperwork to the actor. The paperwork consists of an application for the protective order, the sworn statement you signed in our office describing the violence, and a Temporary Ex Parte Order to keep the perpetrator from bothering you until the hearing date.
If the perpetrator is served, you will need to go to court.
If the actor agrees to leave you alone, an Agreed Protective Order will be issued. If he or she does not show, you automatically get a Protective Order by default. If he or she denies the charges, a hearing will be held in front of a Judge who will decide if you get the Protective Order.
If the actor is not delivered (served) the papers, upon your request and with a valid
address, the case may be reset again for two (2) weeks, and again, if necessary.
This shit right here is the worst. People have valid
concerns and she makes inappropriate jokes about it all. No she was not drugging animals of course, but she takes what one person did not literally mean and runs with it, trying to paint a ridiculous picture without addressing the other points. It is textbook deflection and she does it constantly. Guilty conscience much, Tay? It’s sad that your only defense is to make awful jokes about the poor animals that have fallen into your hands.
It would be mature of her to come out and say “I don’t think my animals got the best care while I was in rehab, but I’m fixing it now and will keep you guys updated. I’m sorry to anyone who worried.” Instead she’s that twat of a child at the schoolyard who got in trouble and just mocks the other person to try to get out of it.
Down the hall and in the elevator?>>679712
If any animals died from neglect because she was too high or too sick with withdrawals to care for them, then she did kill them with drugs indirectly.
Also worth mentioning is the risk to her animals from drug residues on her hands and clothes. Amphibians would be the most sensitive, and she switched to handling her frog with bare hands after being criticized for wearing cloth gloves.
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The only protection order that needs to be served is on Taylor the Abuser by her animals!
Who is protecting them from her?
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Here comes the blaming the "professional "
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Claims she uses H for a year and cheese died 7 months ago.
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Setting up for those future announcements of who is gone!
At this point I feel like she has got to be taking the piss
. There is no way she genuinely thinks she will get away with lying about literally every single time frame ever.
As a hedgehog owner I am fucking enraged by this. Hedgehogs can get mites from their bedding, which is why its recommended you freeze it for 24 hours. Mites are normal- mange only happens in wild hedgehogs. There is no way in hell that Sarabi wasn't in bad shape beforehand, or at the very least already had mites.
Moreover, hedgehogs are solitary, but they love their owners and need time daily to be with them. If I leave for a week, even if they are at the vet, mine will be noticeably cuddlier and happy. Hers must have been so sad.
Taking a hedgehog outside when it is a nocturnal animal is not bonding. It's so sad, her hedgie videos used to be so good.
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but his shoes are more than your rent
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and yet CONSTANTLY made fun of people on twitter for speculating over her pinned pupils?
I lowkey envy her gall, Jesus
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So, she’s stated she’s been doing heroin for over a year….but here she says she started 3 days after cheese died…
This video posted November 17, 2018 days she filmed it “30 minutes ago” because she wanted to let everyone know “as soon as possible. So essentially she started the heroin on November 20 according to her own words…she was “outpatient” in what, February and May4-June4 in rehab? That wouldn’t have even been 6 months of using!
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I know. But considering her drug use at the time it was an unnecessary risk. The drugs would be present in her sweat.>>679782
Good! The sheriff can serve you then!>>679807
He has to be served before even the temporary order is in effect.>>679819
>I am obsessed with myself.
He didn’t know what 800+800 is. And he didn’t know what month/number it is.
Wow he must be toasted, slurring and he looks like shit
But the thing about all day every day drug use, Taylor, is that it impairs your ability to realize how impaired you are.
Her hubris will be her undoing. Again.
Good call! Or cross-contamination from the rescue workers (inb4 she assumes they were to blame).>>679812
Did he say that on the stream?
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So she was using jonny for other drugs just like anons speculated and worked her way up. She's not a seasoned junkie, she's a poser who freaked out that she was addicted and couldn't control herself.>>679830
She's been a user of other substances well over a year, I think veins came later and she freaked. I don't think she was using hourly like she claimed either.
Jonny is fucked. He obviously has no money cause he blew it on drugs and twisted tea.
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Add this to the pile of lies
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The texts specifically say she smoked heroin. Not other drugs.
Her story of the first time she got high was that he shot her up. That's not true either.
I think she's caught up in her own lies at this point. She keeps changing the story to make her seem like the victim
and was forcefully being shot up. She smoked it here but I think heavy vein use came later.
Yeah that makes sense, going from abusing pain meds to chasing the dragon, then working her way up to shooting up for the stronger high.
But on the other hand she wants it to seem like her little experiment with heroin was a terrible addiction that controlled a whole year of her life where she was injecting herself hourly.
She's lost control of her own narrative at this point.
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These are the animals she's shown since coming back to social media. I think this might be all of the ones she currently has.
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And animals we haven't seen.
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Let me know if any more are unaccounted for. Someone make her see this MUCH MORE THAN 30 ANIMAL LIST
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His face is picked to shit and he sounds so faded
He said he introduce heroin to her and that she was in other drugs. Also he said he couldn't be served with restraining order and is in the minute 20 and 25 he also contacted Taylor's dad about his stuff on a storage unit. He is begging for money he doesnt have money.
He is saying that he doesnt force her to drugs . What a joke he is
Twisty is the bearded dragon, anon.
the google doc for TND's hoard needs updating, newer pets aren't on there. here's a link if anyone wants to see or update it: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1e8bakM4GHa2J1y4qwYsB-T0jSpN5uWCI_q0dv-odij4/htmlview#