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From Left to Right:
-Has over 30 animals.
-Supports Taylor Nicole Dean
- Hoards animals like most pet youtubers and likes to buy the trending animal of the month.
- Had a betta fish in a fluvial tank but it 'disappeared'. Didn't care what had happened to it.
-Keeps animals in too small enclosures.
-Keeps a single rabbit in a room without hides and barely any enrichment.
- Queen of the mean girls of pettube
-Pretty much confirmed that Maddie Smith and him are living together.
Happy Tails AKA Megan Arriola
(Had her own thread here: >>612216
Due to lack of content she has been merged back into this thread.)
- Has over 100 animals.
-Keeps her animals in a small room with way under minimum enclosure sizes.
- Advises not to listen to veterinary advice, like not spaying and neutering rabbits.
- Backyard breeds dogs, purposefully mixed two breeds together and justified it by saying they're designer and "these breeds are really in right now".
- Breeds a potentially harmful gene (merle) into her dogs
- Uses aerosol products and paints her nails in the same room as her birds.
- Feeds her animals mostly fruits and vegetables without proper supplementation.
- Her bird almost died due to poor diet (vet literally put it on seed because it was too thin from bad diet).
- Had her snake and bird out on her body during livestream.
- Some of her cages have exposed wire and splotchy/peeling paint.
- Charges an OUTRAGEOUS amount for 'consultation' when she has 0 credentials and can't even say she does her own research for her own animals.
- Extremely rude to supporters and shuts down every question that she can with a snarky remark.
- Recently put two male mice together, ignores advise and says they'll be fine.
-Hoards, breeds, and a lot of reptiles, that are often bad quality and sick.
- Keep them on little plastic containers, justifying it with saying 'they like it that way'.
- Inbreeds and shows little concern for genetics outside of producing colour morphs that will sell for $$$.
- Bullies costumers if they dare to call him out for the shitty conditions his animals have when they arrived.
- Both Tyler Rugge and Taylor Nicole Dean have made collabs with him.
- Got kicked out of playlist for bringing in a baby gator and snake to scare/prank people with.
-Buys two-headed animals.
-Used his two-headed turtles death as clickbait in a video.
-Recently opened his own reptile zoo.
-Complains about lolcow and similar sites, describing them as predators waiting for petubers to slip up. Which is ironic because after bizarre selfposting she was outed as being a frequent user of this site. She criticized the care of several petubers, including herself. See this post for a full explanation and her post history: >>624638
- Throws a lot of subtle shade at other pet youtubers despite pretending to be 'friends' with them all.
– Moved to America to live with hoarder BYB boyfriend Danny.
- Won't show habitats for most of her and Danny's animals, keeping the exact number of animals a secret. Some examples of enclosures not shown include; Snapping turtle, snakes, and (unseen) monitor lizards.
- Thought she could cycle a fish tank with old water, put two betta together to 'breed' despite clearly knowing nothing about breeding and conditioning the fish.
- Keeps her doves in the bare minimum of cages, also keeps them next to ferrets and has let them land on the ferret cage before.
- Was paid off to set up an awful Bearded dragon enclosure including substrate that can cause impaction.
- Says that she is not planning on getting anymore animals but still continues to get them
AfroHerpkeeper AKA Daniel Carter
-Has over 100 animals while going to college and balancing a job. (Including a cottonmouth, rattlesnake, tegu, and two quaker parrots.
-Gives animals away and continues to get more.
-Keeps his rattlesnake in an enclosure without a lock.
-Has snakes in too small enclosures.
-He lets his tegu free roam in his reptile room without supervision. On one occasion his tegu ate an escaped western hognose snake. Recently took the tegu to the vet because he thought that he ate an escaped ball python. Good news he didn't eat the snake. Bad news, the snake is still missing and it ate one of his quail.
-Hoards animals, and at one time had over 50. Recently downsized to 30 in order to move in with Tyler Rugge.
-Justifies her hoarding by saying all her animals are taken to the vet.
-Back Yard Bred her rats, but claims she is no longer breeding. She ended up with sick baby rats.
-Recently got two doves; one got sick and died. She blamed the breeder and 'genetic' illness despite environmental being much more likely. Subsequently she got another bird from a 'better breeder' to replace it, didn't quarantine properly and that bird is now also very sick.
- Is a 'wildlife rehabber'; although is listed as 'social media adviser' on their poorly made site. Charity was also only registered in Ohio in September 2017.
-In her December 2017, “Meet My Pets” video she said her rabbit died from a viral infection; Coccidia. Coccidia is a parasite the is spread from improper hand washing.
Steff J AKA Estefany Jasso
- Hoards animals.
- Was gifted two puppies and kept them even though she didn't have the space for them.
- House is literally crammed with animals.
- Killed all her fish once when she flea bombed her house to get rid of the fleas her roaming cats had brought in.
- Lets her turtles breed, found a nest they'd made unsupervised outside with most of the eggs being eaten by ants.
- Had one of her tortoises die. Was supposed to nebulize the tortoise every 8 hours, instead said she went to sleep for 21 and 'someone else did it'.
- Let her duck eat Styrofoam while yelling at it from across the room.
- Keeps her turtles in tiny cages.
- Keeps most of her animals in filthy conditions.
Carolin von Petzholdt
- Keeps parrots. Has actively lost her parrot Hope numerous times on camera.
- Flies her Parrot Hope in public parks around dogs and as such has been chased by dogs and accosted by dog owners more than once.
- Doesn't train her parrot to fly back to her on a signal, merely screams randomly.
- Has had Hope both chase native birds and be chased by native birds during her free flying, resulting in Hope being lost at least twice from this.
- Has sexually molested her bird on camera. She doesn't seem to understand that touching a birds vent is frustrating for the animal and essentially bestiality.
-Films people on camera and posts to youtube without their permission.
Taylor Nicole Dead Thread: >>597713
First time making a thread so I hope everything looks okay. If there's anyone you feel I missed, go ahead and post them below.
Previous Thread: >>633174
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Her house is so disgusting. If she can't even clean her house prior to making a video then she clearly can't take care of all her animals.
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Not getting enough money from YouTube Emilee?
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He promotes all his videos on /r/antkeeping and the like but honestly seems like even antkeepers arne't too thrilled with him anymore.
He should stick to educational videos about ants and not them encountering dumb bs.
Also, for non bird-people, Hyacinths are the largest parrot kept as pets, and are ENDANGERED. I am extremely unhappy that this irresponsible woman will be owning a species that could be impacted by her carelessness.
Any guesses as to what that baby hyacinth cost? Was going to say 15-25k but bet she couldn't afford a weaned one and got one for 5-10k.
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Guess I don't like AntsCanada anymore. I seriously doubt that there was so much contention between members of the axolotl keeping community that you manage to fail at meeting nearly every parameter for them. Months of poor research is just as useless as none at all.
He stated it in his video about Mango, I also own birds and have heard about this happening to other people before.
How about some real issues like Cataleahs excessive breeding
Or perhaps Happy Tails new Raw Dog Feeding video where she seems to have very little knowledge about proper raw feeding?
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Cataleah has created yet another gofundme for an animal she’s ‘rescued’
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The description is so ridiculous. It's like she fucking brainstormed the worst living situation for this animal to make herself look like a hero.
“But I’m not a hoarder…”. Lol!
Just goes to prove she bit off more than she could chew. And the “I’m being honest… I didn’t have to tell you I rehomed a pet I didn’t tell you I had!” Barf!
And who doesn’t notice several clutches of eggs in your geckos enclosure?! How often did she check it.
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Many of the comments are bang on!!
I think she got addicted to the purchasing of pets and keeping up with other pettubers. It wasn't so long ago that the only pets she had were her two dogs and her hamsters. Then she bought her first reptile (a leopard gecko, I believe) and after that she just kept going and used the same excuse as all the other pettubers–"I have the money and time so it's okay that I just bought 5 animals in a week. It's totally not hoarding."
She got overwhelmed and that's probably how she missed some obvious stuff like her reptiles laying eggs. When you've got 10+ pets that require your time and care, things get overlooked. Hence why no sane person should have that many pets unless they own some kind of sanctuary and have help.
I agree it was to keep up, she openly admits yeah the biggest pet youtubers are the ones with tons of pets making tons of content.
In her one video she does say pretty much, "if you do only have a few pets though some channels do really great just focusing on one animal," but it gives the vibe she even has to acknowledge yeah more pets, more views. I feel like it was a fairly recent video if anyone wants to check it out.
I think Pickles is a good example though, when you collect pets eventually real life will hit, as it always does. Those are living mouths to feed.
I can't say I hate her for rehoming them though.
Yeah she said once she got her first reptile she gained a lot more views.
Some channels have had a similar amount of animals for a long time and are really good with their animals. Sounds like she didn’t have time to interact with hers. >>737742
I think 10+ pets vary. Like you can have 10 low maintenance pets who do not like interaction, like a lot of inverts.
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Looks like all they did when they hung out was film videos for the hangers-ons channels. It’s so embarrassing, how many times does this girl use Taylor in her titles.
I wasn't trying to WK, that's why I went into such detail about how she even admitted more pets more views, and I said "if you want to watch it," because some people want to see for themselves, but you don't have to as I quoted it. I stopped liking her after she defended Taylor.
I just can't hate her for rehoming before more animals die. Some pet youtubers who have all these pets should maybe look into rehoming before they start getting serial deaths too.
Also why I said she's a great example. Having tons of pets is fun when you can feed them and deal with them. But life happens, if you are barely making it and taking care of them when that happens, it'll show.
Serial buying pets to keep up with other youtubers, yes I can hate her for that. Defending Taylor, then being friends with her, yes I can hate her for that.
But rehoming them after she clearly can't keep them and she's had 4 die, no I can't hate her for not continuing to "care" for them.
Like I said even if you can barely keep them all okay, life happens. These are living creatures who don't deserve it, so if they went to people without 20 animals, good.
As an isolated thing, it's not the worst thing she's done. Yeah I agree she followed the arrogance of everyone else, hence why I said she's a good example. Everything is fine and they can do it, or else they wouldn't do it, until they can't and they have half of them die and they get rid of the rest.
It'll happen to them all eventually, maybe they'll learn. Hopefully she won't continue to collect pets, but who knows.
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I don’t know much about snakes but surely the fact that em has to bathe her snake bi-weekly indicates the humidity isn’t high enough?
Well, she did recently announce the death of her blood python who always had shed problems. Seems like she can't have any animal shed properly.
Speaking of the blood pythons death, has that been discussed yet? It appears she hung onto that information for about a year before announcing his death. I mentioned the lack of appearances from that snake a few threads back, and she announced that he was dead a week or two ago.
Anyone ever noticed a lot of her snake bins are empty i.e no hides or water dishes. And some of her gecko enclosures are the same; completely barren. Most of her enclosures she doesn't even show.
I am so alarmed that this is all so obvious; she doesn't even try to hide it. How can people ignore this?
ever notice when someone mentions tyler or maddie, suddenly cataleah or HT gets brought up?
the pettube fest clique have openly said they post on here to defend their friends. seems fishy
not to double post but watching into video further this girls house is absolutely filthy, like not just cluttered but it's gross. I've never heard of her before because I usually just follow TND but YIKES. She is breeding several of her animals and most of the enclosures look too small, empty, and dirty.
also just a rabbit owner it make me so mad to see her rabbits outside. She keeps her angoras inside because "they need to be brushed everyday" which to me eludes that she doesn't even visit her other rabbits everyday. They don't look socialized at all.
I think the major issue with Em is the fact that they have so many animals to the point some of them are kept in the basement. There's no way all of the animals have large enough enclosures so I wouldn't be surprised if that's the reason a lot of the snakes are seemingly suffering. >>740949
Jesus Christ, having that many animals in one small room.
Her snake cages look atrocious.
They're asking for bars for rent yet they spent $200 for donations on black Friday? Like isn't more important to pay rent first to make sure their own animals have an actual home to live in? Instead they had to film themselves donating because they are so generous and need the world to know how great they are.
I'm sorry. I get salty when people have to show everyone that they donated.
Maybe that's why Maddie jumped on the TND drama. Needing that ad revenue to pay rent.
Such responsible pet owners. There is no point in having funds for vet bills if you don't have a place to live. Logic.
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One of Taylor’s fans tried to justify the fact cheese died and threw Lori and Emma under the bus and Taylor retweeted the tweet but Emma doesn’t seem to happy kek
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Also calling YouTube a ‘career’ is a bit of a stretch em…
What's going on in this video? Why does his head look wet?
She has a second Instagram for her birds not in the OP.https://www.instagram.com/angelic_parrots/
Macaws love to take showers to clean their plumage so I pretty sure that's what's happening, although it's probably kinda dangerous for an unweaned parrot since they can get cold a lot easier>>743566
Hope is definitely showing aggression most likely since hope is bonded to Carolin and parrots take bonded partners very seriously. So Hope is just trying to defend her human. I doubt these two will ever be friends, but Carolin doesn't care she will just continue to shove Love in Hope's face, unfortunately.
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When Cataleah tries to make merch but she literally has so many animals that no one can keep up or actually get attached to them so everyone is like which one is Astrid again????
Stomach and bad genes… eh… 2 years is still a really shit run for a fish that should live 10-15.
Honestly it looked like Frank had some kind of parasite that was ignored. Then only treated when he was too far gone already / internal damage etc. You can see he has the start of dropsy in some of the later clips.
King of DIY has too many fish imho. His aquariums require a lot of upkeep that he unlikely has time for.
Frank is not his favourite fish and it's likely he was mostly ignored until the problem became very obvious. I do believe he tried to treat Frank… but I do think this is another case whereby the /amount/ of animals someone owns, negatively effects their care.
You're aware there are different parasites and many many different strains of bacteria that respond well/less well to a variety of treatments.
Skin scrapings can also only show you so much, they would not be effective for internal parasites or bacterial infections.
Flowerhorns have been around long enough that folks also know they live longer than 2 years on average.
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lmao we love a family friendly bully who stays silent when the actual shit goes down
I think the problem is Joey has too many fish now… I've watched him for a long time. His gallery has had him amassing fish at an exponential rate.
It's the same story for pettubers… the more animals they have, the more their care slips.
I honestly think while he might have tried to save Frank, he simply didn't catch it in time because he had so many other animals to deal with. It was obvious it was something internal when he was just giving Frank clean water changes… who knows how long this had been going on before he spotted a lack of appetite too…
Then there's the shadiness of Frank dying in October and us only finding out now. Why not blog his treatment? Let your audience go through that with you? If you have nothing to hide and this took place over months that's what most pet owners would do.
Instead he pulled a Taylor: It's the breeders fault, it's genetics, I did everything I could, he wasn't going to live long anyway, honestly it's because I did so well he lived as long as he did etc. etc. etc.
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the hypocrisy tho
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the comments calling her out on the ball python post are hilarious
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brians titles sound like buzzfeeds articles "I GET BIT BY A HUGE SNAKE. WHAT HAPPENS NEXT WILL SHOCK YOU!!!"
he has the means and contacts to get a fish vet. a few months back his friend (who he has even collabed with and talked about in vids), rachel oleary, made a first video about her oscar getting sick and since then she has updated us continuously. she HAS a fish vet contact and got her oscar treatment wihout even having to move it because she knows how much that stresses them out.
im not saying frank would have lived if joey had done this or that but hes lying about the vet thing and he knows it. another thing that pisses me off is he let poor frank slowly die even though he knew there was no hope and frank was obviously suffering, the last kind thing we have to give our pets is a fast and painless death. its every keepers responsibility. letting animals waste away is cruel.
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isn't this the girl who did a taylor dean and had to amputate her dragons tail because she couldnt bother to have the right humidity
umm becca pane in ig and youtube i think
my bad for not including it
i dont have any reptiles as pets but the harness thing seems a bit too much for me. beardies are from what i know very chill animals but why do you have to stress the animal in order to get a photo
just get a uv lamp and call it a day
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of course she did
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•has a lot of animals check
•handles them wrong check
•stresses the out for a cute pic check
•awful husbandry check
•tattoos bc she is wild and untamed
•"rescues" animals bc adopt dont shop check
•saves poor kittens from sure death check
ladies and gentlemen the true taylor nicole dean clone
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Megan nipple thinks she is an expert again
also why is emz liking her posts?
“tattoos bc she is wild and untamed”
So you’re saying everyone with a tattoo is wild and untamed? That’s a pretty broad brush you’re using asshole!!
you could practically twist all of the bullet points into smth shitty
for example saving and rescuing animals is generally smth positive its just their way of showing themselves doing it thats bad
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Almost a full family photo of terrible terrible pet owners who are literally the ‘mean girls’ of this pet community. Avoid people in this photo. I’ve seen how they treat people, they’re awful hypocrites. Aka Taylor’s little leeches.
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why does emzotic HAVE to spam everyone's feed with the same photo. just post one time with the set of photos you want
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missy nipple herself posted this
I've never had any bunnies either and barely know shit, but if this is where the bunny is supposed to spend the majority of the day I feel truly sorry for it.
It's such a small space and cramped with shit that most likely serves the bunny no positive purpose.
It looks all colorful and fun, but that's barely enough space for a fucking rat to pkay around in.
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I don’t think it’s the worst size. Do you remember Emma had two in two tiny cages forever when trying to bond them.
They probably still are in tiny cages. >>746862
I thought he was openly against Brian on twitter? guess his morals have gone completely out the window
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honeatly no comment
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one of afroherpkeepers toads past and he didn't notice until it started decomposing + maggots
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See they’re just leeches! No integrity!
If happy tails suddenly got really popular they’d be sucking up to her. Wasn’t it just last year and the YouTube event Tyler and Taylor were tweeting about Brian and how terrible he is.
Wherever the views are I guess.
We shouldn’t waste our time with people like Tyler and his little group, I swear all they care about is internet fame. Tyler started out doing normal videos, then once did a pet video and even he said, it bought in a lot of views so he decided to male pet videos. - his motivation for his whole channels theme was views.
The level of her anthropomorphizing is disgusting and her cognitive dissonance is astounding. In >>743566
she describes Hope as being so curious, excited, and happy to meet Love and praises him for being a caring older brother when Hope looked like he wanted to bite off Love's face.
And she whacks his face into the edge of the cage opening when she takes him out of her car.
It’s always great when she talks about “training” Hope to freefly, then just lets her fly out of the car across traffic to wherever, then shouts like a retard trying to get the bird to come back. I don’t know much about training birds but at least know not to say “good girl” when the bird isn’t doing what you ask lol.
No wonder she loses her bird every month or so. Just hope she doesn’t end up getting her birds killed to learn her lesson.
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She renamed the bird Glory after she has been called Fluffy for 27 years.
The look on Hope's face tho.
didn't watch the video. But first off let me just say breeding an adopted bird isn't terrible(although I don't know if shelters who adopt out birds allow it) EXCEPT when it's 27 years old, this bird has been through at least 2+ owners already, I mean come on you expect her to bond with some unweaned baby.
she honestly knows nothing about how birds bond. I doubt those birds will ever actually breed so I don't think we'll have to worry about that. Only thing is if they don't get along and she shoves them in the same cage they could severely hurt each other, especially during breeding season.
>Inb4 the wedding video>>748476
The previous owner Treavor (or Travis, she doesn't seem to know) got her as a baby. The end of the video is traumatic. He left her in a pet carrier unattended outside for Carolin to pick up, and she is distressed and alarm calling.
And bird mad bitch needs to keep her hands on the wheel and her eyes on the road while driving!
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Who else thinks she might just move on to another species when "it get's too hard"?
If anyone else wants to read the article to have a good laugh knowing she isn't gonna do any of it go straight ahead ~ https://www.bluemacaws.org/en-gb/article/the-hyacinth-macaw
A bunch of comments telling her not to rename Fluffy.
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Look at how close she was to breaking out of the crate!
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"She's laughing and smiling and she wants to kiss me!"
Also, I don’t know if anyone here has ever had a pet chew itself out of a cage, but as they struggle to get out they can gut themselves and bleed out.
Source: coming home to dog bleeding out on the floor and spent $5k on surgeries to repair
I don’t know a lot about bunnies, so maybe some bunny anons can fill me in, but why is it that pettubers don’t seem too concerned about finding their bun a companion? If bunnies do need companions as much as I think they do, then wouldn’t that be the number one concern immediately? Is it possible to have a happy, healthy bun without a companion, or are these pettubers (mostly Tyler) just lying to themselves?
Also, in regards to Mango, I don’t think it was “just a heart-attack.” I’ve owned birds for years and done my own research, and I’ve never seen any scientific evidence backing the fact that “birds just get spooked sometimes and die.” Please correct me if you do have scientific support for that.
Typically when a bird has a heart attack it’s because that bird was already predisposed to having a heart attack (poor diet, poor genes, heart blockage, etc.) When you take a bird in for a necropsy, the vet usually won’t be able to tell you how that bird died. Merely cutting the bird open will only be able to tell them how it MAY have died (if you got the bird in quickly enough after freezing it, at least). The only way to determine exactly how a bird died is by sending a sample in to have scientific testing done, which is extremely expensive. Tyler’s vet most likely told him that it seemed like it could have been a heart attack, and he may not have had any further testing done.
That said, I do NOT think that Mango’s death was Tyler’s fault. Even if Mango was predisposed to a heart attack because of his genetics or heart problems that Tyler wasn’t aware of, that isn’t Tyler’s fault. Birds are extremely fragile creatures who often don’t display any noticeable signs of illness until it’s too late. I feel terrible for Tyler because I know he loved that bird, and seeing a bird owner lose their parrot regardless of the circumstances hits me hard. I can’t imagine waking up one day to find one of my babies dead, but I know that it’s inevitable. We aren’t perfect, and animals do pass.
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I think a lot of the companion thing is down to time and space.
Time - Literally will take up to months to introduce two bunnies together if they didn't already know each other, and they should be around the same size which means you can't just buy whatever you see. I don't think a lot of these petubers would be willing to put the time and the energy in.
Space - As we have seen, a lot of their enclosures are already small. Throw another rabbit in there and you will have more people complaining because it is so obvious. I don't think any of them would be willing to expand their enclosures tbh.
As for happiness, I think socialising with them nearly 24/7 will mean they're happy little things, as it would happen with any social animal. However, they live in groups in the wild so all you're doing is taking away the opportunity for natural behaviour, and i highly doubt they get much 'floor' space so these animals are living shit lives.
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>I AM RESCUING A PARROT BECAUSE OF CANCER!
She says she's not planning to breed them. But would she prevent them from breeding?
I missed Carolin's viral video.https://www.msn.com/en-nz/video/watch/polly-want-the-crapper-bizarre-video-showing-house-trained-parrots-using-toilet-on-command-goes-viral/vp-AAwSmnZ
>“It’s great because I don’t need to clean up after them. “When they were very little I observed their behaviour every time they went to the bathroom. “I timed it and when they had to go I caught them and hold them over the toilet and said the words ‘poop poop’. “Once they were finished, I gave them a loud and happy positive reinforcement as a happy scream. “They loved it and memorise it that every time they go to the bathroom they are getting a happy mom shoutout. “Within a day, both understood the concept of ‘poop poop’. “It’s the consistency to keep it up and asking them every time if they need to go. “Poop poop is best in the toilet and not on my carpet.”
So explain the ever present shit stains all over your hoodies!