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No. 730730

From Left to Right:

Tyler Rugge
-Has over 30 animals.
-Supports Taylor Nicole Dean
- Hoards animals like most pet youtubers and likes to buy the trending animal of the month.
- Had a betta fish in a fluvial tank but it 'disappeared'. Didn't care what had happened to it.
-Keeps animals in too small enclosures.
-Keeps a single rabbit in a room without hides and barely any enrichment.
- Queen of the mean girls of pettube
-Pretty much confirmed that Maddie Smith and him are living together.

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/tylerrugge/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tylerrugge/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/tylerrugge

Happy Tails AKA Megan Arriola
(Had her own thread here: >>612216 Due to lack of content she has been merged back into this thread.)
- Has over 100 animals.
-Keeps her animals in a small room with way under minimum enclosure sizes.
- Advises not to listen to veterinary advice, like not spaying and neutering rabbits.
- Backyard breeds dogs, purposefully mixed two breeds together and justified it by saying they're designer and "these breeds are really in right now".
- Breeds a potentially harmful gene (merle) into her dogs
- Uses aerosol products and paints her nails in the same room as her birds.
- Feeds her animals mostly fruits and vegetables without proper supplementation.
- Her bird almost died due to poor diet (vet literally put it on seed because it was too thin from bad diet).
- Had her snake and bird out on her body during livestream.
- Some of her cages have exposed wire and splotchy/peeling paint.
- Charges an OUTRAGEOUS amount for 'consultation' when she has 0 credentials and can't even say she does her own research for her own animals.
- Extremely rude to supporters and shuts down every question that she can with a snarky remark.
- Recently put two male mice together, ignores advise and says they'll be fine.

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCa_17EwmmHm7FJtIn57c9-w
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/meghan_happytails/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/meghan_arriola
Blog: http://www.mjhappytails.com/

Brian Barczyk
-Hoards, breeds, and a lot of reptiles, that are often bad quality and sick.
- Keep them on little plastic containers, justifying it with saying 'they like it that way'.
- Inbreeds and shows little concern for genetics outside of producing colour morphs that will sell for $$$.
- Bullies costumers if they dare to call him out for the shitty conditions his animals have when they arrived.
- Both Tyler Rugge and Taylor Nicole Dean have made collabs with him.
- Got kicked out of playlist for bringing in a baby gator and snake to scare/prank people with.
-Buys two-headed animals.
-Used his two-headed turtles death as clickbait in a video.
-Recently opened his own reptile zoo.

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4zS1wbO81p59CxKL7CQAcA
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/snakebytestv/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/snakebytestv

Emzotic
-Complains about lolcow and similar sites, describing them as predators waiting for petubers to slip up. Which is ironic because after bizarre selfposting she was outed as being a frequent user of this site. She criticized the care of several petubers, including herself. See this post for a full explanation and her post history: >>624638
- Throws a lot of subtle shade at other pet youtubers despite pretending to be 'friends' with them all.
– Moved to America to live with hoarder BYB boyfriend Danny.
- Won't show habitats for most of her and Danny's animals, keeping the exact number of animals a secret. Some examples of enclosures not shown include; Snapping turtle, snakes, and (unseen) monitor lizards.
- Thought she could cycle a fish tank with old water, put two betta together to 'breed' despite clearly knowing nothing about breeding and conditioning the fish.
- Keeps her doves in the bare minimum of cages, also keeps them next to ferrets and has let them land on the ferret cage before.
- Was paid off to set up an awful Bearded dragon enclosure including substrate that can cause impaction.
- Says that she is not planning on getting anymore animals but still continues to get them

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCE37328iVnqSj1OCrgrYd8w
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/emzoticofficial/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/emzoticofficial

AfroHerpkeeper AKA Daniel Carter
-Has over 100 animals while going to college and balancing a job. (Including a cottonmouth, rattlesnake, tegu, and two quaker parrots.
-Gives animals away and continues to get more.
-Keeps his rattlesnake in an enclosure without a lock.
-Has snakes in too small enclosures.
-He lets his tegu free roam in his reptile room without supervision. On one occasion his tegu ate an escaped western hognose snake. Recently took the tegu to the vet because he thought that he ate an escaped ball python. Good news he didn't eat the snake. Bad news, the snake is still missing and it ate one of his quail.

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCu4LCfhUyUg56aS2hWdUZhw
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/afroherpkeeper/

Maddie Smith
-Hoards animals, and at one time had over 50. Recently downsized to 30 in order to move in with Tyler Rugge.
-Justifies her hoarding by saying all her animals are taken to the vet.
-Back Yard Bred her rats, but claims she is no longer breeding. She ended up with sick baby rats.
-Recently got two doves; one got sick and died. She blamed the breeder and 'genetic' illness despite environmental being much more likely. Subsequently she got another bird from a 'better breeder' to replace it, didn't quarantine properly and that bird is now also very sick.
- Is a 'wildlife rehabber'; although is listed as 'social media adviser' on their poorly made site. Charity was also only registered in Ohio in September 2017.
-In her December 2017, “Meet My Pets” video she said her rabbit died from a viral infection; Coccidia. Coccidia is a parasite the is spread from improper hand washing.

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqfMfdjGotIXbDey-sW9olA
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mxddiesmith/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/mxddiemoo

Steff J AKA Estefany Jasso
- Hoards animals.
- Was gifted two puppies and kept them even though she didn't have the space for them.
- House is literally crammed with animals.
- Killed all her fish once when she flea bombed her house to get rid of the fleas her roaming cats had brought in.
- Lets her turtles breed, found a nest they'd made unsupervised outside with most of the eggs being eaten by ants.
- Had one of her tortoises die. Was supposed to nebulize the tortoise every 8 hours, instead said she went to sleep for 21 and 'someone else did it'.
- Let her duck eat Styrofoam while yelling at it from across the room.
- Keeps her turtles in tiny cages.
- Keeps most of her animals in filthy conditions.

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/estefanyjass0
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the_steffj/

Carolin von Petzholdt
- Keeps parrots. Has actively lost her parrot Hope numerous times on camera.
- Flies her Parrot Hope in public parks around dogs and as such has been chased by dogs and accosted by dog owners more than once.
- Doesn't train her parrot to fly back to her on a signal, merely screams randomly.
- Has had Hope both chase native birds and be chased by native birds during her free flying, resulting in Hope being lost at least twice from this.
- Has sexually molested her bird on camera. She doesn't seem to understand that touching a birds vent is frustrating for the animal and essentially bestiality.
-Films people on camera and posts to youtube without their permission.

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/excitingfilms/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/carolinvonpetzholdt/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/cvonpetzholdt

Taylor Nicole Dead Thread: >>597713


First time making a thread so I hope everything looks okay. If there's anyone you feel I missed, go ahead and post them below.

Previous Thread: >>633174

No. 730736

Sorry, I messed up Taylor's thread link. It's: >>>/pt/597713

No. 730762

thread looks good to me, thanks for making it!
thoughts on snake discovery? really enjoyed their channel in the past but recently they made this video where they suggest using tape to remove stuck snake sheds which is stupid and risky imo.

No. 730880

>>730762
the channel was mentioned a few times in the past, I think because she generally seemed okay-ish but throws weird or dangerous practices in the mix such as cutting eggs wide open to check the snakes inside for color and stuff.

No. 730882

How do these people not get arrested for cruelty or neglect? People get busted for animal hoarding all the time, but you have to be dumb to broadcast it online and think of not getting caught

No. 730958

Why was there no mention of cataleah? She is especially problematic

No. 731310

I worry about this new bird Carolin got. Not many breeders will sell an unweaned Hyacinth. They can be very sensitive and may end up getting sick. Also, she probably should have taken it out of the cage to feed it so it wouldn't bang its wings on stuff in the cage.

No. 731324

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>>730958
Her house is so disgusting. If she can't even clean her house prior to making a video then she clearly can't take care of all her animals.

No. 731739

>>731310
wow poor baby. she's already livin in a small cage and she's gona grow up to be huge. after watching birdtricks, this girl is the worst at bird keeping

No. 731763

Did that Walmart Taylor bitch ever bond her single bunny with the others? She’s so damned lazy and put in zero effort. Looks like she’s morphing to reptiles because they require less physical attention…

No. 732175

>>731763
Which one? Emilee or Emma?

No. 732180

he should stick to taking care of ants imo

No. 732223

>>732175
Emma. I don’t follow lizard chick at all.

No. 732242

>>732180

Looks like he already rehomed the axolotl tho.

No. 732298

Do we have a running count on Cataleahs animals?! Coz she claims they’ve more than doubled in the last year. This is my best guess on the count I attempted to keep while watching the video:
18x ‘geckos’ (crested/leopard?) + ~17 babies? (hard to keep count)
3x gargoyle geckos+ baby
1x chahoua gecko
1x Mossy Leaftail gecko (2x died, temp spike)
2x Lechianas gecko +baby
2x Vieillard’s chameleon gecko +baby
1x lines leaf tail gecko
2x cat gecko
1x Sarasinorum gecko
5(?) Saint Isabelle frogs
1x ball python
1x abronia greminia lizard
1x smooth knobtail gecko
7x hognose snake
2x milk snakes
1x speckled king snake
2x tarantula
1x other bug??
2x mice + 5(?) babies (feeders)
1x cat
2x dogs
3x sugar gliders +baby
5x parakeets
2x finches
2x goldfish
7x chicks
7x rabbits
2x turkeys
17x chickens
4x doves
1x pigeon

= ~133??
(I don’t know much about reptiles/inverts so have just parroted the names she used)

-Constantly talks about geckos probably going to bite her, but persists on getting them out, including one in shed (surely you’re not supposed to handle them when they’re in shed??)
-talks about ‘favourite’ animals on channel but lets be honest who can keep up
-I can’t get over how she literally just breeds ALL her animals. Like most people will specialist with one species or even TYPE but she’s currently breeding sugar gliders, geckos/lizards, snakes, birds and mice.
-‘rehomed’ tropical tank

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Not getting enough money from YouTube Emilee?

No. 732301

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No. 732348

Cataleah just got a baby abronia but has she mentioned the very poor clearly wild caught looking pair she got awhile ago? She has purchased so many animals at expos that never make it and she breeds literally everything. Also I believe she only has 2 veillardi

No. 732600

>>732180
He promotes all his videos on /r/antkeeping and the like but honestly seems like even antkeepers arne't too thrilled with him anymore.

He should stick to educational videos about ants and not them encountering dumb bs.

No. 733187

>>731310
Also, for non bird-people, Hyacinths are the largest parrot kept as pets, and are ENDANGERED. I am extremely unhappy that this irresponsible woman will be owning a species that could be impacted by her carelessness.

Any guesses as to what that baby hyacinth cost? Was going to say 15-25k but bet she couldn't afford a weaned one and got one for 5-10k.

No. 733664

>>733187
Its absolutely disgusting that she got an unweaned baby, honestly hyacinths should be put into breeding programs until they have stable numbers to be kept as pets but the psycho bird lady just HAD to have something special and pretend she had any knowledge of handrearing a baby let alone one apart of an endangered species

No. 733810

Any idea about Exotics Lair?
He seems to have a ton of exotics but mainly tarantulas and seems to be pretty well educated on most of the issues (other than maybe mold)

No. 733900

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Guess I don't like AntsCanada anymore. I seriously doubt that there was so much contention between members of the axolotl keeping community that you manage to fail at meeting nearly every parameter for them. Months of poor research is just as useless as none at all.

No. 733928

>>733900
There really, really isn't. Everyone says 20-30 long, water under 74F, earthworms or pellets for food.

No. 734048

>>733900
Grown tired of him tbh ever since he became a views>Education youtuber. Next thing you know, he’ll have a video of his parrot interacting with his ants

No. 734802

Did Tyler ever explain why his bird died? I thought he was getting it tested?

No. 734994

It was a heart attack due to a fright in the middle of the night. Not uncommon in birds honestly. They can easily be startled by unusual sounds and should they hit toys or perches and get tangled they can stress really bad. Not WK but I firmly believe it was an accident

No. 735022

>>734994
Very young though, how do they cope in the wild?

No. 735184

>>735022
In the wild they get desensitised to everything pretty quickly as babys, but because we pull them from the nest and chuck them in a quiet box while theyre being reared they dont develop the right neurological pathways that they would with parents in the wild and are just like "loud noise!!!"

No. 735189

I'm an invert hobbiest and have very healthy spiders and know you shouldn't order when it's freezing. I also know who not to order from when i get a new sling. This Brian Barczyk faggot can stay the fuck out of my hobby. I hope he gets a p. Metallica or some spectacular looking old world tarantuala and it bites the fuck out of him. God, i want to go rescue his reptiles

No. 735405

>>734994

how do you know this?

No. 735453

>>735405

He said it in his video about mango

No. 735593

>>735405

He stated it in his video about Mango, I also own birds and have heard about this happening to other people before.

How about some real issues like Cataleahs excessive breeding

Or perhaps Happy Tails new Raw Dog Feeding video where she seems to have very little knowledge about proper raw feeding?

No. 735609

>>735189
I've ordered when it's been between 10 and 1c before but always paid for next day delivery and heatpacks. Although I'm guessing guaranteed next day delivery isn't an option in the US, and if it is involves air travel.

No. 736022

>>735593
Tyler? Hi !! Or one of the clique. Come on her to defend Tyler and throw attention back on to cataleah and happy tails. I’m not a big fan but there’s no milk. Maybe do yourself a favor and focus on videos. Haven’t had a decent one in months.

No. 736299

Not Tyler or the clique I just don't believe in discussing or speculating a dead end about Mango when there are actual topics to discuss.

If neither happy tails poor raw feeding habits or Cataleahs breeding and husbandry suits your fancy how about this Paul Cuffaro kid? Recently hit 715k subs and all he has been doing is buying fish with no research, not cycling his tanks and is buddy buddy with Kamp Kenan. Recently got a bunch of turtles with no real knowledge of them. Promotes a lot of poor fish care overall

No. 736345

>>736299
isn't raw best?

No. 736442

>>736345
not if it's done incorrectly

No. 736551

>>736345

Raw is the best however what she does is not the right way. There are many methods of raw feeding but her method is far from correct. She should be providing bone with all her meals, she doesn't give the chihuahua bone because of "poor dental health" but that is why you provide ground bone. She also gives them a lot of oats and rice which provide them no nutritional value and are just fillers. Whole squashes for veggies? Why not leafy greens ground in. She doesn't weigh any of the bowls so it's hard to tell if dogs are getting more or less food. She's giving them too much egg and not with the shell, egg shell should be ground and put in with the egg for a complete protein. Her diets look like she just throws in whatever is in her fridge or on sale at the store at the time

No. 736952

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Cataleah has created yet another gofundme for an animal she’s ‘rescued’

No. 736959

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>>736952
The description is so ridiculous. It's like she fucking brainstormed the worst living situation for this animal to make herself look like a hero.

No. 737197

>>736959

why does she need to buy another glider for him when she breeds gliders and usually has others available?

No. 737203

Anyone watch Picklespets video? She rehomed her crested gecko, blue tongue skink, and a day gecko because she was overwhelmed, after having 2 hamsters, and 2 gecko's die all at once. It's a bit shitty to rehome your pets when you should be committed to keeping them for their entire life, but at the same time I wish the rest of the petfest lot would take the hint and do whats best for their animals, even if that means rehoming them because they have too many.

No. 737221

>>737203
“But I’m not a hoarder…”. Lol!

Just goes to prove she bit off more than she could chew. And the “I’m being honest… I didn’t have to tell you I rehomed a pet I didn’t tell you I had!” Barf!

And who doesn’t notice several clutches of eggs in your geckos enclosure?! How often did she check it.

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>>737203
Many of the comments are bang on!!

No. 737232

>>737230
Someone needs to tell Ebony Rabbits that Pickles “rescued” some of these from Craig’s list…so she’s rehoming a rehomed animal!!

No. 737233

>>737203

I'm honestly wondering how her channel is going to move forward from this. Unless pets die (even more than already) to free up time and space, can she get more pets when she's just rehomed a bunch? Surely after doing something like this it pretty much means you can't and won't be bringing in any new animals for a while? I can imagine the backlash if she does.

No. 737240

A couple things bothered me about her video. I’ve had cresties and gargoyles lay eggs every season. None of them have died from it, not even after several clutches. And to not notice egg-laying behavior is concerning. And like 3-4 ads on a ten minute video… nice. It was weird how she threw in that jab about “I didn’t have to tell you” like what? Where does that animosity come from? Overall I’m sure she made the right decision tho because she didn’t seem to have time to even check her geckos enough to see multiple clutches of eggs.

No. 737603

See, now I do have some respect for Pickles. Unlike other pettubers that fucking neglect their animals to death (cough TND cough), Pickles realized that she couldn't properly care for certain animals and instead of trying to save face and keep them and pretend like everything was fine until they inevitably died from improper care, she did the responsible thing and gave them to someone who could give them the proper care (presumably, at least…). I usually am of the mind that pets are for life, but I also believe that that ideology shouldn't be followed at the expense of the pet's health or happiness. She realized she was in over her head…even if she did try to play it off like she wasn't. We know she bit off more than she could chew…why else would she rehome the pets if she wasn't overwhelmed?

I do wonder about the hamsters….for both of them to die on the same day, that just seems like too much of a coincidence. I'm thinking it was something in the water or in their food.

No. 737662

>>737603
Did she buy/rescue anyone of these animals during the time she’s had her channel? Or did she have them before. Sounds like she tried to keep up with her buddies in her group and realised she couldn’t deal with it. Crested geckos and gargoyles are easy to care for. Wtf was she doing?!

No. 737718

How does everyone here feel about Brian Barcyzk? I swear every damn video of his he either gets a new rare animal or an animal is on the loose or some other clickbaity stuff.

No. 737742

>>737662
I think she got addicted to the purchasing of pets and keeping up with other pettubers. It wasn't so long ago that the only pets she had were her two dogs and her hamsters. Then she bought her first reptile (a leopard gecko, I believe) and after that she just kept going and used the same excuse as all the other pettubers–"I have the money and time so it's okay that I just bought 5 animals in a week. It's totally not hoarding."

She got overwhelmed and that's probably how she missed some obvious stuff like her reptiles laying eggs. When you've got 10+ pets that require your time and care, things get overlooked. Hence why no sane person should have that many pets unless they own some kind of sanctuary and have help.

No. 737822

Did anyone see this video? This is Brian Barczyk’s son (and Brian was the one who bought him the turkey). The turkey looks and sounds miserable. Someone in the comments mentioned they need constant 100°F heat for the first week of life, which is most likely why it kept pressing itself against him.

No. 737837

>>737742
I agree it was to keep up, she openly admits yeah the biggest pet youtubers are the ones with tons of pets making tons of content.
In her one video she does say pretty much, "if you do only have a few pets though some channels do really great just focusing on one animal," but it gives the vibe she even has to acknowledge yeah more pets, more views. I feel like it was a fairly recent video if anyone wants to check it out.
I think Pickles is a good example though, when you collect pets eventually real life will hit, as it always does. Those are living mouths to feed.
I can't say I hate her for rehoming them though.

No. 737884

>>737837
Yeah she said once she got her first reptile she gained a lot more views.
Some channels have had a similar amount of animals for a long time and are really good with their animals. Sounds like she didn’t have time to interact with hers.

>>737742
I think 10+ pets vary. Like you can have 10 low maintenance pets who do not like interaction, like a lot of inverts.

No. 737886

>>737822
Brian is terrible. Hate the guy. Seems like only uneducated kids watch his channel, because he spews bullshit. He also lets his animals get used in pranks like jake paul. All he wants is fame and to be the next Steve Irwin. No one will be like Steve. Brian is like a weird parody who runs a reptile version of a puppy mill (which he has even admitted is what he runs)

No. 737946

>>737837
Don’t WK and promote watching her recent vids to “find” what you’re saying for views. Be specific about which one. She is an arrogant bitch who insisted I have the time and can afford, when clearly she didn’t. She did it for the views. And her vids were mostly subpar anyway.

No. 737984

>>737946
Different anon. Look at some of the people she has used in her titles as click bait/ get more attention. Happy tails and Taylor. I think she could have contacted HT but she did a crappy video where she mentioned Taylor and that did well, so she tried it with someone else. Other than that all I know her as is the girl that always goes to petco and petsmart

No. 738055

>>737718
I love how when people are talking about the Petfest clique they clearly swoop in trying to talk about someone else to try and turn every ones attention away from them.

No. 738252

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Looks like all they did when they hung out was film videos for the hangers-ons channels. It’s so embarrassing, how many times does this girl use Taylor in her titles.

No. 738258

>>738252
>facetuning our animals!

Every day we stray further from god

No. 738407

>>737946
I wasn't trying to WK, that's why I went into such detail about how she even admitted more pets more views, and I said "if you want to watch it," because some people want to see for themselves, but you don't have to as I quoted it. I stopped liking her after she defended Taylor.
I just can't hate her for rehoming before more animals die. Some pet youtubers who have all these pets should maybe look into rehoming before they start getting serial deaths too.
Also why I said she's a great example. Having tons of pets is fun when you can feed them and deal with them. But life happens, if you are barely making it and taking care of them when that happens, it'll show.

No. 738793

>>738407
You should hate her for being an arrogant ass and continue to add pets only to rehome them when people were questioning the quantity and pace she was acquiring more. Suddenly she’s overwhelmed? I don’t buy that excuse. Sorry

No. 738817

>>738793
Serial buying pets to keep up with other youtubers, yes I can hate her for that. Defending Taylor, then being friends with her, yes I can hate her for that.
But rehoming them after she clearly can't keep them and she's had 4 die, no I can't hate her for not continuing to "care" for them.
Like I said even if you can barely keep them all okay, life happens. These are living creatures who don't deserve it, so if they went to people without 20 animals, good.
As an isolated thing, it's not the worst thing she's done. Yeah I agree she followed the arrogance of everyone else, hence why I said she's a good example. Everything is fine and they can do it, or else they wouldn't do it, until they can't and they have half of them die and they get rid of the rest.
It'll happen to them all eventually, maybe they'll learn. Hopefully she won't continue to collect pets, but who knows.

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I don’t know much about snakes but surely the fact that em has to bathe her snake bi-weekly indicates the humidity isn’t high enough?

No. 740212

>>739524
Well, she did recently announce the death of her blood python who always had shed problems. Seems like she can't have any animal shed properly.
Speaking of the blood pythons death, has that been discussed yet? It appears she hung onto that information for about a year before announcing his death. I mentioned the lack of appearances from that snake a few threads back, and she announced that he was dead a week or two ago.

No. 740382

>>739524

burms like to soak but should obviously be able to do that in their enclosure. if you have to bathe reptiles on the regular you have some serious issues with your keeping.

No. 740440

maddie's video about tnd was fucking atrocious.

No. 740457

>>740440
using the threat as suicide to stop people pointing out someones issues in pet care is fucking disgusting. guess shes just trying to get views. did you see the petfest group poppin off at leopard gecko last night. they're all unhinged.

No. 740475

>>740457

Just like they rip anyone else apart who has an opinion about someones care, and that's all it ever is, an opinion, not hate, not slander like they try to spin it. Yet it's perfectly fine for them to rip into Happytails and Brian!

No. 740941

tyler and maddie on live stream, tylers constantly asking people for bars and coins so he gets money 'because he needs to pay the rent', then when someone brings up how he pays for vet bills he said he has loads of money for that, or he'll ask best fiends for a sponsorship deal. do these people not have other jobs. these two are so gross i cant deal

No. 740949

https://youtu.be/dh0KJNYBnEw

Anyone ever noticed a lot of her snake bins are empty i.e no hides or water dishes. And some of her gecko enclosures are the same; completely barren. Most of her enclosures she doesn't even show.

I am so alarmed that this is all so obvious; she doesn't even try to hide it. How can people ignore this?

No. 740954

>>740949
ever notice when someone mentions tyler or maddie, suddenly cataleah or HT gets brought up?
the pettube fest clique have openly said they post on here to defend their friends. seems fishy

No. 740959

So I shouldn't post about very clear & obvious neglect of animals because the only neglect we care about is what TND doe?
Nah. While we are calling out one neglectful PetTuber, we can call the rest out too. I just so happened to notice it with Cataleah today.

No. 740963

>>740954
I agree, very suspicious.

No. 740972

>>740954

So is this thread only for the petfest clique? I’d rather talk about actual milk regarding pet care than whatever stupid jokes they make on a livestream. It is getting old accusing the clique of being on here whenever a different pettuber is brought up. cataleah and HT have the worst pet care so it’s not surprising to me that they are getting brought up more.

No. 740986

>>740972
This thread is boring.

No. 740997

>>740949
she mentioned she went on several trip over the summer and a temp spike in her reptile room killed two of her geckos. If you have 100+ pets you have no business travelling that much. She said she got a pet sitter but where the fuck would someone find a pet sitter for a job like that. This girl is a disaster.

No. 741010

>>740997
not to double post but watching into video further this girls house is absolutely filthy, like not just cluttered but it's gross. I've never heard of her before because I usually just follow TND but YIKES. She is breeding several of her animals and most of the enclosures look too small, empty, and dirty.
also just a rabbit owner it make me so mad to see her rabbits outside. She keeps her angoras inside because "they need to be brushed everyday" which to me eludes that she doesn't even visit her other rabbits everyday. They don't look socialized at all.

No. 741138

>>740949
I find it amazing how she can spend $$$ on leachies (adults are usually over $800-1000+) and throw them in undersized, barely decorated enclosures.

No. 741179

>>740382
>>740212
I think the major issue with Em is the fact that they have so many animals to the point some of them are kept in the basement. There's no way all of the animals have large enough enclosures so I wouldn't be surprised if that's the reason a lot of the snakes are seemingly suffering.

>>740949
Jesus Christ, having that many animals in one small room.
Her snake cages look atrocious.

No. 741200

Whats the deal with Michael Jamison?

He has 2 tigers, some monkeys, dogs and cats in a house, also from what I have seen he seems to have no zoo experience?

No. 741255

>>741138

Yeah and she is always making gofundmes to get her followers to pay for her animals vet care. If you can’t afford to vet your animals quit buying new ones all the time

No. 741265

>>741200
he's like an instagram man-thot

No. 741375

>>740941

They're asking for bars for rent yet they spent $200 for donations on black Friday? Like isn't more important to pay rent first to make sure their own animals have an actual home to live in? Instead they had to film themselves donating because they are so generous and need the world to know how great they are.
I'm sorry. I get salty when people have to show everyone that they donated.

Maybe that's why Maddie jumped on the TND drama. Needing that ad revenue to pay rent.

Such responsible pet owners. There is no point in having funds for vet bills if you don't have a place to live. Logic.

No. 742053

Camelsandfiriends is now keeping a water buffalo at Arizona without a pool.

No. 742525

What're your thoughts on SimplyBetta? I'm trying to find new pettubers to watch and came across her. She breeds and sells her bettas. Smaller channel but she just impulse bought a crestie, has a few betta sororities, and had to rehome a beardie in the past.

No. 742872

Camelsandfriends is a complete retard. Her "wolf" Lorne she used to own was an upper mid content wolfdog— about 75% wolf. She bought him from a breeder, and a contact of mine owns one of his relatives. She has no clue how to handle wolfdogs and provoked Lorne to the point of him attacking her one time, then played this off as him being dangerous and aggressive. Everyone in the wolfdog community hates her because she's inexperienced, attacks other owners, and is an embarrassment.

She got rid of Lorne recently. Thank God. I only hope he's with a responsible owner now. She takes okay care of her camels but that's it. Had to re-home a hornbill once too, I believe her mink died prematurely as well.

No. 742918

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One of Taylor’s fans tried to justify the fact cheese died and threw Lori and Emma under the bus and Taylor retweeted the tweet but Emma doesn’t seem to happy kek

No. 742919

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Also calling YouTube a ‘career’ is a bit of a stretch em…

No. 742953

Said she wasn't going to that park anymore, yet continues to go to the same park and complain about dogs. Bitch also lost her bird again.

No. 742988

>>742953
she probably goes to that park only because it gives her a reason to bitch about dogs because she's the ~"superior pet owner"~ for having a bird.

No. 743053

The insanity of having 5 free flying birds in an apartment. Just look at the state of her place!

No. 743356

>>742953
And bitch needs to learn spelling…it’s lose!

No. 743459

>>743053
Let alone that she has 5 free flight birds she also is hand feeding two of them (love and destiny) I haven't watched too many of her videos, but what I've seen is these birds get the most minimal of cages. I know these birds get a lot of time out but still. she needs to take a note from Mikey The Macaw.

No. 743525

>>743459
Carolin is a shithead who knows nothing about birds or freeflying she just practices recall which isnt how you freefly and is gonna end up losing her bird to a predator or just losing them. also theres a vid of her handfeeding ther hyacinth and its absolutely atrocious im surprised she didnt aspirate and kill him, apparently a lot of breeders she went to refused to sell her any of their hyacinths because they looked her up and saw how shitty of an owner she is.

No. 743563

What's going on in this video? Why does his head look wet?

She has a second Instagram for her birds not in the OP.

https://www.instagram.com/angelic_parrots/

No. 743566

Here she introduces Love to Hope. Is Hope displaying aggression as he appears to be? Thanks in advance to the birdwise anons for their insight.

No. 743843

Why brian barczyk always putting his animals on the dirty ground of the reptile zoo? There's always dozens of people going in and out of that place and they just let the animals run across the floor? That seems pretty unsanitary and dangerous (for the animal) to me.

No. 743861

>>743563
Macaws love to take showers to clean their plumage so I pretty sure that's what's happening, although it's probably kinda dangerous for an unweaned parrot since they can get cold a lot easier

>>743566
Hope is definitely showing aggression most likely since hope is bonded to Carolin and parrots take bonded partners very seriously. So Hope is just trying to defend her human. I doubt these two will ever be friends, but Carolin doesn't care she will just continue to shove Love in Hope's face, unfortunately.

No. 744220

I just watched Tyler Rugge's video of his Rabbit Room Tour and it's the most depressing thing I've ever fucking seen lol. Just a big bunny penned into one half of a spare room, seems isolated from the rest of the house, has no hides or ramps or anything to climb on. He has a couple of old blankets on the floor, a litter tray with food in it, and some bird toys clipped to the wire of the cage that he showed no interest in. Kinda obvious in the video that Tyler's interest in that rabbit is minimal at best. It's just laying there, completely disinterested in life. It has nothing to interact with or exercise its instincts with. Even his "fans" in the comments section said it. I usually don't pay attention to Tyler but that fucking got to me lol. If you don't want to provide adequate enrichment or care for it, rehome it to someone who does.

No. 744693

>>744220
Yeah and he recently got another one but what’s a bet they’re still in that small pen. Shoves him in a room away from everything so he can forget about him which is such a shame because he could make some great videos with him but reptiles are the ‘in’ thing so they are what he keeps accumulating at the moment.(emoji)

No. 744877

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When Cataleah tries to make merch but she literally has so many animals that no one can keep up or actually get attached to them so everyone is like which one is Astrid again????

No. 745226

can i just say how amused i am by the fact that emma lynne or whatever likes every single one of emzotics posts on ig

No. 745496

>>745226
Yet they kicked her out of their clique! They are so 2-faced you don’t know which one to slap first!

No. 745816

King of DIY's Frank is dead.

No. 745825

>>742525

SimplyBetta is a tool. I actually caught her when she was just starting her channel & I remember her ordering an absolutely absurd number of show bettas at the same time while also showing off her "new fish room" which was an emptied out tiny bathroom. After that it was just unboxing after unboxing. I had no idea how she thought she was going to keep them all in there. It just really struck me that she had the idea to become a "pet YouTuber" one day & just ordered thousands of dollars worth of animals and turned on the camera. She made no mention of having bettas before this. You would think that if she already enjoyed fish keeping, she would have had a few fish she could show off that she got before starting her channel.

No. 745837

>>745816
how did it happen? i was always put off by how often he moved him around.

No. 745921

>>745837
He started to poop white film, his Kok deflated, and he started acting listless. IMO Joey did a lot to help him (He says he spent over $1,000 on Frank's treatment) and he ended up passing away because of his stomach and bad genes. I don't think you should buy rescue fish, but I loved Frank sm and I'm really torn about it.

No. 745922

>>745921
Stomach and bad genes… eh… 2 years is still a really shit run for a fish that should live 10-15.

Honestly it looked like Frank had some kind of parasite that was ignored. Then only treated when he was too far gone already / internal damage etc. You can see he has the start of dropsy in some of the later clips.

No. 745929

>>745922
>>745921
Dropsy and pooping a white film are some of the most common signs of internal parasites in fish. It doesn’t surprise me considering the amount of fish he owns. By the time Dropsy is visible, it is usually too late to save the fish. I don’t really watch his channel regularly, I’ve only seen a couple of his videos so I can’t really say if it was negligence or if his symptoms appeared suddenly.

No. 745932

>>745929
King of DIY has too many fish imho. His aquariums require a lot of upkeep that he unlikely has time for.

Frank is not his favourite fish and it's likely he was mostly ignored until the problem became very obvious. I do believe he tried to treat Frank… but I do think this is another case whereby the /amount/ of animals someone owns, negatively effects their care.

No. 745942

He said he treated for both parasites and bacteria, and looked for abnormalities under the microscope. And, since flowerhorns are hybrids, I'd say giving an exact lifespan is probably a bit frivolous. I'm inclined to believe his explanation, as he seemed very forthright and honest about the situation. It's quite possible that Franks' bad genes did really shorten his life.

No. 745948

>>745942
You're aware there are different parasites and many many different strains of bacteria that respond well/less well to a variety of treatments.

Skin scrapings can also only show you so much, they would not be effective for internal parasites or bacterial infections.

Flowerhorns have been around long enough that folks also know they live longer than 2 years on average.

No. 746094

I don't know much about fish honestly, don't even want them because of the ridiculous work load. But I do watch a lot of fish youtubers and DIY King seems to be the best at what he does. His husbandry seems to be the most on point, unlike someone like Catch 'em All who just snatches big, already thriving fish from the wild and toss them into overcrowded pool ponds to live out a miserable life or disappear and "Go off to live with a friend"

Gotta give DIY props for the clean tanks and basically building a house next to his house for the hobby. Like someone else said, he doesn't seem all that attached to his fish but seems to care more about the hobby as a whole. But all fish youtubers seem like that to me, hard to love a pet you can't touch I guess.

I feel like he did everything he could for Frank though, according to a quick google search dropsy(didn't know what dropsy was) could could also be a sign of bacterial infection or liver dysfunction as well as parasites. I guess its hard to tell though, since theres not really a market for fish vets.

No. 746110

>>745948
Yes, obviously I am aware of that. I'm saying he did what he could with what was available to him. Like he said in the video, most vets don't do much of anything for fish. And he didn't just look at skin scrapings, he said he looked at feces too. What else do you want him to do? Flowerhorns have only been around since the 90s. Throwing together two (or more, as is the case for the flowerhorn) different species and expecting the genetics of their offspring to be stable in that amount of time is ridiculous. You can't use average lifespans as a true indicator for how long a flowerhorn will live as easily as you could with a naturally occurring cichlid, for instance. The fact that Frank had visible problems, like his short body, is enough for me to believe his genetic makeup may have cut his life short. Of course parasites or other infections are still possible, but I believe the King of DIY did his best to find and treat anything abnormal.

No. 746166

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lmao we love a family friendly bully who stays silent when the actual shit goes down

No. 746167

>>746110
I think the problem is Joey has too many fish now… I've watched him for a long time. His gallery has had him amassing fish at an exponential rate.

It's the same story for pettubers… the more animals they have, the more their care slips.

I honestly think while he might have tried to save Frank, he simply didn't catch it in time because he had so many other animals to deal with. It was obvious it was something internal when he was just giving Frank clean water changes… who knows how long this had been going on before he spotted a lack of appetite too…

Then there's the shadiness of Frank dying in October and us only finding out now. Why not blog his treatment? Let your audience go through that with you? If you have nothing to hide and this took place over months that's what most pet owners would do.

Instead he pulled a Taylor: It's the breeders fault, it's genetics, I did everything I could, he wasn't going to live long anyway, honestly it's because I did so well he lived as long as he did etc. etc. etc.

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No. 746172

eh emzotic has been such a show off lately. we get it you love your older hoarding byb boyfriend uwu but can you not casually flex your wedding ring on literally every post on ig

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No. 746176

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the hypocrisy tho

No. 746178

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the comments calling her out on the ball python post are hilarious

No. 746184

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brians titles sound like buzzfeeds articles "I GET BIT BY A HUGE SNAKE. WHAT HAPPENS NEXT WILL SHOCK YOU!!!"

No. 746197

Look at Emzotic now, she's really pulling a TND by shoving animals on her face nowadays. Compare to her older video thumbnails where she actually handles her animals with respect, and you'll really see how she's gone down the shitter for views.

No. 746252

>>746197

I can't decide if she's doing a Taylor or just trying to show off her ring as much as possible

No. 746255

>>746172

lol didn't see that comment not just me who thinks that then

No. 746256

I saw on emz twitter she deleted her last tweet because it was too personal. Does anyone have the tweet? I'm curious

No. 746273

>>746110

he has the means and contacts to get a fish vet. a few months back his friend (who he has even collabed with and talked about in vids), rachel oleary, made a first video about her oscar getting sick and since then she has updated us continuously. she HAS a fish vet contact and got her oscar treatment wihout even having to move it because she knows how much that stresses them out.
im not saying frank would have lived if joey had done this or that but hes lying about the vet thing and he knows it. another thing that pisses me off is he let poor frank slowly die even though he knew there was no hope and frank was obviously suffering, the last kind thing we have to give our pets is a fast and painless death. its every keepers responsibility. letting animals waste away is cruel.

No. 746292

emzotic has posted over 30 posts with her ring just so happening to appear in them 8 of which she literaly says "MAH RING" in the description

No. 746293

>>746292
what are you even talking about. its not like she dedicated an entire video to her rin… oh wait!

No. 746300

>>746292
at this point i wouldn't be surprised if she changed all her profile pictures to her ring

No. 746302

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isn't this the girl who did a taylor dean and had to amputate her dragons tail because she couldnt bother to have the right humidity

No. 746303

>>746302
whats her name anon

No. 746304

>>746303
umm becca pane in ig and youtube i think
my bad for not including it

No. 746306

>>746302
we are saying that emma i the walmart taylor dean but this girl is on another level

No. 746307

>>746306
if you check her ig she manhandles her animals all wrong (just like tay tay)

No. 746309

>>746302
i dont have any reptiles as pets but the harness thing seems a bit too much for me. beardies are from what i know very chill animals but why do you have to stress the animal in order to get a photo
just get a uv lamp and call it a day

No. 746311

>>746309
didn't taylor do a video where she "walked" her animals around

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>>746311
of course she did

No. 746322

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>>746304
•has a lot of animals check
•handles them wrong check
•stresses the out for a cute pic check
•awful husbandry check
•tattoos bc she is wild and untamed
check
•"rescues" animals bc adopt dont shop check
•saves poor kittens from sure death check
ladies and gentlemen the true taylor nicole dean clone

No. 746333

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Megan nipple thinks she is an expert again
also why is emz liking her posts?

No. 746366

- He wants to name the new flowerhorn, Frank too.

- The fish fight when introduced…

- Francine is bloated (could she have parasites too?)

- Males supposedly has been quarantined for 6 weeks. Which means he went out an bought a new flowerhorn as soon as the original Frank died.

- Francine apparently beat up original Frank before and tore his lip up.

- Claims that they 'beat each other up' and either survive and live peacefully or die.. and there's nothing you can do, it's one or the other.

No. 746379

>>746322
“tattoos bc she is wild and untamed”
So you’re saying everyone with a tattoo is wild and untamed? That’s a pretty broad brush you’re using asshole!!

No. 746383

>>746197
She’s been doing that LONG before Taylor!

No. 746404

>>746379
i said that concerning their views on tattoos and appearance in general not the actual tattoos

No. 746407

>>746379
you could practically twist all of the bullet points into smth shitty
for example saving and rescuing animals is generally smth positive its just their way of showing themselves doing it thats bad

No. 746549

So what do people think of Kamp Kenan? I watch his channel for the tortoises, he has a lot of animals as well but I think only reptiles. Most of them aren't very interactive but they aren't afraid of him like TND's seem to be.

Tries too hard to be Steve Erwin, always wearing a safari outfit? But its interesting to see an older dude PetTuber

No. 746567

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Almost a full family photo of terrible terrible pet owners who are literally the ‘mean girls’ of this pet community. Avoid people in this photo. I’ve seen how they treat people, they’re awful hypocrites. Aka Taylor’s little leeches.

No. 746568

>>746567
Lmao ‘Taylor’s little leeches’! Perfect.

No. 746596

>>746567
No her enablers. Let’s get it right lolol. It’s one thing being someone’s friend and it’s another going out of your way to defend poor pet care. Emma claims she helps Taylor with care. Good one Emma, like 7 of Taylor’s pets have died this month. Emma is like a blob version of Taylor

No. 746705

>>746567
im not sure about emma and tyler they both follow emz emma likes every photo of hers and tyler always leaves taylor snarky comments or no comments at all

No. 746721

Maybe this is a stupid question, but what do you guys think that the Pet Vloggers are doing from an ecological standpoint? As a whole are they contributing to poaching by amplifying exotics trends or helping endangered species by bringing more attention to them? Or harming less vulnerable species by amplifying attention to them in the exotic pet trade, which is full of unethical breeders and exotic pet enthusiasts?

No. 746778

>>746705
Emma literally says she is in constant contact with Taylor to help her improve her care. Maybe Tyler is trying to distance himself publically since all these hoarder videos have come out. He’s not loyal.

No. 746794

Tyler is the manny mua of the pet community. He’s just a social climber.

No. 746808

>>746778
lmao so true. she flied all the way from canada to improve the snakes' enclosures

No. 746810

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why does emzotic HAVE to spam everyone's feed with the same photo. just post one time with the set of photos you want

No. 746848

Remember when they all started vlogmas? Lol that lasted like 2 days.

No. 746862

@TylerRugge why must you support him

No. 746865

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missy nipple herself posted this

No. 746869

>>746865
i do not own any buns but doesnt this pen look small?

No. 746876

>>746869
otherfag here
I've never had any bunnies either and barely know shit, but if this is where the bunny is supposed to spend the majority of the day I feel truly sorry for it.
It's such a small space and cramped with shit that most likely serves the bunny no positive purpose.
It looks all colorful and fun, but that's barely enough space for a fucking rat to pkay around in.

No. 746878

>>746876
>>746876
I feel like it wouldn’t even be as bad if the huge tube wasn’t in there, it’s what’s taking up the most space and making it feel cramped to look at.

No. 746892

>>746862
Exactly. He was all about Brian and then he skipped to Taylor. He’s a complete hypocrite

No. 746897

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I don’t think it’s the worst size. Do you remember Emma had two in two tiny cages forever when trying to bond them.

No. 746954

>>746897

They probably still are in tiny cages.

>>746862

I thought he was openly against Brian on twitter? guess his morals have gone completely out the window

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No. 747069

>>746974
Taylor ship is sinking, so he’s hoping he can leech onto Brian again. He’s so pathetic.

No. 747087

>>747069
He has a lot in common with Taylor and Brian. His pet died way way before it’s time. Wasn’t his bird like 3? Aren’t they meant to live 20-30 years? Why are all the really big pettubers the worst?

No. 747185

I really do think Mangos death was a tragedy. It was a heart attack wich can honestly happen if he got spooked by something hes in a new house and unfamiliar with his surroundings. I dont think mangos death was tylers fault…

No. 747199

>>747185
Must have been something significant for a 3 year old bird to die. I imagine it has experienced thunder and lightning, fireworks, etc. Just seems odd something little wouldn’t just spook the bird, but actually give it a heart attack. I feel if it was a healthy 3 year old bird it would have been able to cope with stress better. Not tryna WK but I remember Tyler and Maddie complaining about happy tails bird cage but her birds are still living ……. soooo yea

No. 747201

>>747069
True Tyler is a view whore. His videos are unbearable. He has this smug thing about him. He blocked someone on live stream for asking if him and Maddie are together. I’m surprised he hasn’t just come out yet. It’s so obvious

No. 747203

I understand keeping some things private from the internet but they refuse to acknowledge that they live together. Its so obvious just announce yes we are together but we are not sharing details. Do it just to shut the 10 year olds up who spam the comment section with are you dating.

No. 747204

Ive noticed alot of rough cuts in emmas vlogs. Probably someone saying something that insinuates them being together and they force her to cut it out.

No. 747212

Oh gadd I always assumed he was into guys.

No. 747215

>>747212
He is quite camp. I know that doesn’t mean he’s gay but yea I’ve always got that vibe too.

No. 747311

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honeatly no comment

No. 747313

>>747311
why just why. why is she so rude and whiny all the damn time. that person asked a perfectly valid question. just answer it without whining how hard your life is

No. 747317

>>747203
i feel its all for the views. so the can put a vid up with the title WE HAVE SOMETHING WE WANT TO TELL YOU and then they buy a hamster

No. 747335

emma jumping on the trend

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No. 747344

The two reptarium vlogs are literally the same like literally same clips. Cmon guys we know youre all hamging out but do you have to produce the same exact video?

No. 747345

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one of afroherpkeepers toads past and he didn't notice until it started decomposing + maggots

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No. 747380

Looks like Carolyn is planning to jump into BREEDING AN ENDANGERED SPECIES. She can barely take care of her existing birds, this has all the makings of a tragedy

No. 747388

>>747215

I got that vibe too but in Maddie's recent vlogs it seems they share a bed. She hasn't shown any other room than the one that Tyler was seen sleeping in, and I really doubt they have a 5 bedroom house (1 pet room each, a bedroom and a rabbit room)

No. 747401

>>747345
Jesus, as if his tegu eating a snake wasn't bad enough. He's bitten off way more than he can chew.

No. 747417

>>747335
See they’re just leeches! No integrity!
If happy tails suddenly got really popular they’d be sucking up to her. Wasn’t it just last year and the YouTube event Tyler and Taylor were tweeting about Brian and how terrible he is.
Wherever the views are I guess.
We shouldn’t waste our time with people like Tyler and his little group, I swear all they care about is internet fame. Tyler started out doing normal videos, then once did a pet video and even he said, it bought in a lot of views so he decided to male pet videos. - his motivation for his whole channels theme was views.

No. 747422

>>747417
Yea he said about the start of his channel on the pet tuber panel, the one Taylor didn’t turn up to.

No. 747428

>>747311
Rabbit anon here, she literally doesn’t understand the concept of a middle ground. I was the one who said they had absolutely nothing in their pen to play with. So she goes and absolutely fills it with stuff so there isn’t even enough room for them to hop? Talk about overkill. I thought you didn’t care about what people said on lolcow meghan? Just to prove we are not unreasonable I will admit this is a decent sized pen for a living space but they need to be let out to run around daily and I don’t see how she could possibly have time to do this with all her other animals as well.

No. 747433

>>747380

The level of her anthropomorphizing is disgusting and her cognitive dissonance is astounding. In >>743566 she describes Hope as being so curious, excited, and happy to meet Love and praises him for being a caring older brother when Hope looked like he wanted to bite off Love's face.

And she whacks his face into the edge of the cage opening when she takes him out of her car.

No. 747463

>>747380
There are so many kids and teens in the comments asking for advice or saying that they want to get a bird too. It makes me so sad to think about all the animals that are bought because of these pettubers, who are neglected or will soon be abandoned or rehomed when these kids inevitably loose interest or go off to college. Birds are especially prone to this because of how long they live. There’s a statistic somewhere that says birds go through an average of 4 homes before they find their permanent home, and it sadly doesn’t surprise me.

No. 747475

Not to go off topic but how do you guys feel about Kristen leannimal? I found her videos the other day and I like her pet care more than most so far.

No. 747503

Peep tyler and maddie playing footsie under a blanket in i think it was emmas vlog.

No. 747507

>>747503
Maybe he’s bi? But he definitely seems like he’d be more into guys.

No. 747715

Serious question tho what is maddie going to do if her tegus breed? Dont want to see them in the hands of 12 year olds who have no clue what they are doing. :c

No. 747752

>>747715
She backyard breeding her tegus?

No. 747800

>>747463
It’s always great when she talks about “training” Hope to freefly, then just lets her fly out of the car across traffic to wherever, then shouts like a retard trying to get the bird to come back. I don’t know much about training birds but at least know not to say “good girl” when the bird isn’t doing what you ask lol.

No wonder she loses her bird every month or so. Just hope she doesn’t end up getting her birds killed to learn her lesson.

No. 747804

Not saying shes byb but houses 2 males and 1 female together…

No. 747813

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No. 747906

>>747813
what the hell i she wearing

No. 748011

>>747475
her monitor care is horrendous. temps too low, terrible diet, not enough substrate for starters. she has made her monitor obese with her negligence.

No. 748212

>>747813
She clearly has low self esteem, she needs to be validated all the time so she dresses slutty

No. 748234

It seems like Reptilian Garden is a pretty good keeper? Ive only seen a few vids but from what i saw shes pretty good? Not cheesy and clickbaity. Talks about and shows her care in an educational way

No. 748291

>>748234
I've been following her for a while on instagram and I like her and her standards of care. I'm just hoping the youtube stuff doesn't get to her head.

No. 748314

>>748234

The one thing I've noticed about Reptilian Garden is her chameleon always seems to have stuck shed? I can't remember a time when I've seen him without any shed. Other than that I have no issues with her other animals

No. 748435

Guess who’s getting a new (opposite sex) hyacinth macaw? This is definitely the kind of person who should own a breeding pair of $15k endangered exotic birds

No. 748438


No. 748447

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>>748435

She renamed the bird Glory after she has been called Fluffy for 27 years.

The look on Hope's face tho.

No. 748476

>>748447
didn't watch the video. But first off let me just say breeding an adopted bird isn't terrible(although I don't know if shelters who adopt out birds allow it) EXCEPT when it's 27 years old, this bird has been through at least 2+ owners already, I mean come on you expect her to bond with some unweaned baby.
she honestly knows nothing about how birds bond. I doubt those birds will ever actually breed so I don't think we'll have to worry about that. Only thing is if they don't get along and she shoves them in the same cage they could severely hurt each other, especially during breeding season.

No. 748526

>>748447

>Inb4 the wedding video


>>748476

The previous owner Treavor (or Travis, she doesn't seem to know) got her as a baby. The end of the video is traumatic. He left her in a pet carrier unattended outside for Carolin to pick up, and she is distressed and alarm calling.

And bird mad bitch needs to keep her hands on the wheel and her eyes on the road while driving!

No. 748590

Hope will be forgotten like her other birds and be left in that dog crate cage to suffer. This bitch is abusive and gets away with it because she free flies

No. 748608

Out of curiosity i looked up the price of a tour at brians zoo. To actually get a tour with him for an hour is $500 :0

No. 748673

>>748476

I did some reading and apparently Hyacinths don't reach breeding age until around 7 years. Carolin weaned Love way too early, and she should not have been feeding Love and Destiny the same formula.

No. 748795

>>748526

Jfc that’s the most depressing shit I’ve seen. Imagine being with someone from being a baby to 27 years old, then left on the porch for some dumb animal-hoarding bitch to pick you up and force you to pose for vlogs until she negligently kills you through any number of the things she does.

No. 748930

It’s clear that these exotic birds are nothing more than toys to her. She also has absolutely no self awareness when it comes to what she is posting on the internet and how it influences her viewers.

No. 748937

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Who else thinks she might just move on to another species when "it get's too hard"?

If anyone else wants to read the article to have a good laugh knowing she isn't gonna do any of it go straight ahead ~ https://www.bluemacaws.org/en-gb/article/the-hyacinth-macaw

No. 749088

>>748435

Part 2

A bunch of comments telling her not to rename Fluffy.

No. 749089

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>>749088

Look at how close she was to breaking out of the crate!

No. 749090

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No. 749091

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"She's laughing and smiling and she wants to kiss me!"

No. 749180

>>749089
Also, I don’t know if anyone here has ever had a pet chew itself out of a cage, but as they struggle to get out they can gut themselves and bleed out.

Source: coming home to dog bleeding out on the floor and spent $5k on surgeries to repair

No. 749214

>>747813
so she's wearing a ring on her wedding finger huh? I noticed that the moment TND started going out with Jonny, her video quality started to plummet, she buys more animals to try to fill that void, and starts dressing up whore-y. Didn't she used to take care of herself like getting her nails done and everything.

No. 749215

>>747380
oh god. I don't even want to give this woman any views from me. How can shitty ass people get so many views while the legit ones doesnt?

No. 749221

>>749215
she is just terrible. its obvious she loves her birds but she is just so irresponsible. you can see hope doesnt listen to you when you call him and there is wildlife that can harm him or that he can harm. every two vids or so it is always a "HOPE IS IN DANGER!!!" "THIS GUY TRIED TO STEAL HOPE" "A DOG ALMOST ATE HOPE"

No. 749269

I don’t know a lot about bunnies, so maybe some bunny anons can fill me in, but why is it that pettubers don’t seem too concerned about finding their bun a companion? If bunnies do need companions as much as I think they do, then wouldn’t that be the number one concern immediately? Is it possible to have a happy, healthy bun without a companion, or are these pettubers (mostly Tyler) just lying to themselves?

Also, in regards to Mango, I don’t think it was “just a heart-attack.” I’ve owned birds for years and done my own research, and I’ve never seen any scientific evidence backing the fact that “birds just get spooked sometimes and die.” Please correct me if you do have scientific support for that.

Typically when a bird has a heart attack it’s because that bird was already predisposed to having a heart attack (poor diet, poor genes, heart blockage, etc.) When you take a bird in for a necropsy, the vet usually won’t be able to tell you how that bird died. Merely cutting the bird open will only be able to tell them how it MAY have died (if you got the bird in quickly enough after freezing it, at least). The only way to determine exactly how a bird died is by sending a sample in to have scientific testing done, which is extremely expensive. Tyler’s vet most likely told him that it seemed like it could have been a heart attack, and he may not have had any further testing done.

That said, I do NOT think that Mango’s death was Tyler’s fault. Even if Mango was predisposed to a heart attack because of his genetics or heart problems that Tyler wasn’t aware of, that isn’t Tyler’s fault. Birds are extremely fragile creatures who often don’t display any noticeable signs of illness until it’s too late. I feel terrible for Tyler because I know he loved that bird, and seeing a bird owner lose their parrot regardless of the circumstances hits me hard. I can’t imagine waking up one day to find one of my babies dead, but I know that it’s inevitable. We aren’t perfect, and animals do pass.

No. 749312

>>749214
>>747813
>>747906
>>748212

Taylor has her own thread.

No. 749355

>>748011
She did get the monitor as a rescue and it was already obese. Sad to see it in a situation that's not much better

No. 749423

Carolin posted a video of her singing and miming to a medley of Christmas songs wearing a different holiday outfit with each one. Hope is indignantly dressed in a Santa costume he chews at throughout the video to remove.

Did I mention she filmed it entirely parked in her car?

No. 749424

>>749355
If you go back on her instagram, her monitor has nearly doubled in size. It may have been overweight initially but it is morbidly obese now.

No. 749426

>>749355
If you go back on her instagram, her monitor has nearly doubled in size. It may have been overweight initially but it is morbidly obese now.

No. 749435

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No. 749436

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No. 749465

>>749436
i dont mind the singing but she litteraly put I SAVED HER FROM CANCER in the title. like how insensitive can you be

No. 749504

>>749269
I think a lot of the companion thing is down to time and space.
Time - Literally will take up to months to introduce two bunnies together if they didn't already know each other, and they should be around the same size which means you can't just buy whatever you see. I don't think a lot of these petubers would be willing to put the time and the energy in.
Space - As we have seen, a lot of their enclosures are already small. Throw another rabbit in there and you will have more people complaining because it is so obvious. I don't think any of them would be willing to expand their enclosures tbh.

As for happiness, I think socialising with them nearly 24/7 will mean they're happy little things, as it would happen with any social animal. However, they live in groups in the wild so all you're doing is taking away the opportunity for natural behaviour, and i highly doubt they get much 'floor' space so these animals are living shit lives.

No. 749524

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>>749465

The title of >>749088? Did she change it?

>I AM RESCUING A PARROT BECAUSE OF CANCER!


She says she's not planning to breed them. But would she prevent them from breeding?

No. 749538

>>749524
She would probably just throw away the eggs.

No. 749586

The worst part about these Pettubers like Carolin is the fact that there’s nothing anyone can do to help the animals in their care. No matter how kind and reasonable you are, no matter how many people offer advice, they ignore it. I don’t know why they seem completely incapable of discerning people who are just being rude from people who are genuinely concerned about their animals. Are they really that sensitive? Or do they not care?
Most of the threads on lolcow are funny, but the Pettuber thread just makes me sad and angry.

No. 749591

I missed Carolin's viral video.

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/video/watch/polly-want-the-crapper-bizarre-video-showing-house-trained-parrots-using-toilet-on-command-goes-viral/vp-AAwSmnZ

>“It’s great because I don’t need to clean up after them. “When they were very little I observed their behaviour every time they went to the bathroom. “I timed it and when they had to go I caught them and hold them over the toilet and said the words ‘poop poop’. “Once they were finished, I gave them a loud and happy positive reinforcement as a happy scream. “They loved it and memorise it that every time they go to the bathroom they are getting a happy mom shoutout. “Within a day, both understood the concept of ‘poop poop’. “It’s the consistency to keep it up and asking them every time if they need to go. “Poop poop is best in the toilet and not on my carpet.”


So explain the ever present shit stains all over your hoodies!

No. 749756

>>749424
Dang, you're right. She's huge now. Here is a comparison. In August she said she was on a diet, but was very obviously gaining weight. Luckily it looks like she hasn't gained much more weight since August, I hope she is actually losing weight now, poor girl

No. 749757

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>>749756
Dropped

No. 749761

I agree with a lot of these things. I think AfroHerpkeeper specifically has fixed a lot of his problems. Tegu no longer roams due to concerns over him not receiving proper basking. Rattlesnake cage has a lock I'm p sure also. The Ball Python escape should not have happened, but at least it was found. That was an easily avoidable mistake and criticism is 100% due, I mean it's a BP just lock the enclosure and you're good. Also his Job correlates directly to his hobby, so I don't see the issue there. Overall not perfect, but I would overall say better than Taylor Nicole Dean, Happy Tails (Fuck Happy Tails I fucking hate them not just as an owner but as person), Brian B, etc. who really only try to sensationalize with their animals.

No. 749764

Sorry for sounding like a defensive fan, but a lot of afroherpkeeper stuff is being fixed or has been fixed, his tegu doesn't free roam anymore because of the eaten snake problem (in a growtent), his snake's enclosures are slowly being fixed, and his ball python has been found. Most of his pets are being homed with friends or his mom takes care of the simple ones. Of course, this does not justify any bad things he does I wanted to defend him a little bit because he's a really good person

No. 749799

Are you guys familiar with Paul cuffaro? Appalling aquatics and turtle care and climbing to a million subs at ridiculous speeds. He is influencing a loot of people in all the wrong ways and doesn't do an ounce of research before buying fish or turtles. I'm surprised he hasn't been discussed more



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