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This is a series of threads about fakebois and trans-identified females (TIFs).
TIFs are girls and women who take on the 'trans' label to any extent, including undergoing ("gender-affirming") surgery under that label.
"Fakebois" are girls who pretend to be boys, either by becoming TIFs or larping biological males through the screen (classic move). Fakebois usually style and present themselves as androgynous or feminine-looking boys, or wearing girls' clothing and make-up while insisting on being addressed with he/him (or occasionally they/them) pronouns and take great offense at being gendered as female.
These threads are also now a catch-all for any minor TIF cows without threads of their own. Even "serious" troons, (like Kalvin Garrah and Ellen Page) are fair game, as are horrific troon surgeries and pregnancies. Just remember to spoiler that shit.
**TIFs, no one cares if you think you're ~more legit~ than the cows posted here.**
Additionally, occasional discussion of fujoshis is fine, but don't sperg and infight about it.
Notable FtM-related subreddits:https://www.reddit.com/r/FtM/https://www.reddit.com/r/FtM_irl/https://www.reddit.com/r/gaytransguyshttps://www.reddit.com/r/FTM_SELFIES/https://www.reddit.com/r/FTMfemininity/
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TRAs: Kids know about gender stuff more than any bigoted asshole, that's why you should support their transition before their teens.
This kid at 6: Cannot understand why her mommy is destroying her body like that and wish she could return to be her mommy.
I don't like to call this kid "based", but this is a big proof that no, most of TRAs didn't know they were trans at such age. And is quite depressing how he's witnessing how her mother is changing without understanding why, even if you try to say the "I'm a man in a woman's body" bullcrap.
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This kid seems like he's grieving he's losing his mother for another person but HER feelings are more important. What a selfish prick.
I think “inner protector” means she has an imaginary friend that “protects” her from “traumatic” things. Like a Dissociative Identity Disorder thing that people are LARPing nowadays.
Trannies shouldn’t reproduce at all, like what’s the point?
It should be illegal to troon out if you are parenting underage kids. It's so selfish to expect your child, who has no escape from you or a voice of their own, to go along with your delusional changes. The fact that she victimizes herself against a 6 year old is so disturbing.
We need a law like in Japan, if you want to troon, you can't be a parent.
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Her post history is not painting a picture of a stable human being.(she's a Long COVID truther)
Honestly considering his age and her imaginary multiple personalities, I wouldn't be surprised if she hasn't just diagnosed him herself for extra oppression points, or perhaps to explain why her child wouldn't be all in on his only parent trooning out.
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I didn't saw the DID thing. I bet she's acting like United States of Tara or Split.
bare with me, i myself am an autist,
when I was five, my dad shaved his beard and mustache for the first time in my life without warning me he was going to first, and my intro to his new face was, I rounded a corner and was startled by what my brain was trying to process as like a mandela catalogue imposter version of my dad lol, and I went nonverbal for a year due to the fright
this poor little bastard is never gonna recover from all that(Blog)
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A local he/they. Literally just looks like a woman with PCOS
Post viral fatigue is absolutely a thing and has been known about for decades, it just got given a zeitgeisty name for cases induced by covid. Most cases are triggered
by things like mono or the flu.
off topic, but how did your parents deal with you after that?>>1929773
poor kid, he's going to be traumatized
mentally unstable mothers always mess up their son's life
Omg is her neck COVERED in hair in that first pic?? Literal neck beard, ew.>>1929829
He's watching his mother vanish before his eyes. He's gunna have serious attachment/abandonment issues, poor thing.
Fingers crossed, but what can they do? This somehow isn't considered self-harm, so it certainly must not be considered harmful to others, somehow>>1929835
Not much to deal with, I was a pointer not a screamer lol
They were very sad though, I feel guilty about that
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I wonder what she would think about cases of mothers gaining moments of strength to save their children from immediate harm by lifting cars or managing to survive collapsed buildings or fight off wild animals.
dylan looks so haggard, i couldn't imagine living life normally after ruining my face and body like this.>>1929481>>1929574
i wonder why the kid's dad is not in the picture? poor kid, he must feel trapped seeing his sole caretaker damage herself due to mental illness and delusion.
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I feel like this TIF artist just wants to make this character a full-on woman already but knows she will loose followers if she does. The character uses he/him pronouns.
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Its odd to becuase both of these characters are FTM, weird disparity.
I hate gendies that do shit like this, because it feels like they're trying to trick people into implying things that are easier to argue against than "woman = adult human female" or "gender is a regressive sexist social construct", like "woman = feminine", even though that's not the actual problem most people have with them. People take issue with "GNC trans people" (aka gender-conforming people with pronouns in bio) because they're adamant that gender is extremely important to the point that people will kill themselves if it's not prioritized over biological sex, but they can't even provide an incorrect
definition of what a "woman" or a "man" are, at least without making it cyclical in the way of "a woman is anyone who identifies as a woman".
"Women are feminine people" would be incorrect, regressive, and misogynistic, but it would at least be comprehensible and explain why someone would think that a man could become a woman or vice versa. Problem being, this kind of gendie doesn't even have that perspective, so they're arguing that "gender" is simultaneously all-important and completely meaningless. It would be like if someone said "God and Hell don't exist, but we should follow every doctrine of Christianity regardless, because people will kill themselves if we don't".
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Nah, I think the artist is also a low effort TIF so the way that she draws this character as a literal effeminate girl “but he’s totally a man he/him hehe!!” is a reflection of herself. Picrel is the character’s reference sheet. Slight blog but I’ve been aware of her art for a while and was waiting for the day she decided to stop calling these characters Jotaro and Kakyoin kek. I also can’t believe she wants her audience to believe they’re both TIFs
Tbh I believe the impression that Dylan isn't actually taking anything, he's just had the FFS. He's not done anything that would really move him that far away from looking male, it's a grift.>>1930111
Many such cases of artists fandom-famous entirely for trooning out male characters. Nauseating tbh, I have to deal with a fandom where it's mass delirium/headcanon for one character (and often many more).
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Another buzzfeed chick trooned out, makes me so sad
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had to look up who she was because I didn’t recognize the name and noooooo rip. I always liked her videos back in the day. didn’t realize she was so mentally ill
NTAYRT but have you ever seen these characters get ex-TERF
"redemption" arcs? I'm genuinely asking because I don't watch trash TV, and from everything I've seen TRAs think women can never be "redeemed" if they ever said or did anything "TERFy".
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this is amazing, i clipped the end kek
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sage for nonmilk but this is so unbelievably unfunny. especially enforcing the he/him on Allison. troons automatically enforce the transition on someone. Allison isn’t even gnc, she’s just plain. Of course they’ll project themselves on someone who lies about sleeping with their shrink.
she didn't even act like a man lmfao? i thought the autists claimed her weird ass for the squeaking and sugar sandwich.
tifs literally just grew up awkward and full of self hatred and used a change of gender as an escape from themselves. it's not even about feeling like a man. more than half of it is just self mutilation. like, no. this awkward high school teenage girl wouldn't want to self harm through T, bitch. she'd probably be really into a yaoi graphic novel though.
AYRT, i posted about gabby a couple threads back and iirc theres another buzzfeed chick who came out but i only know about these two, aside from the tim married to Kristin. She has the WORST t voice by far, clearly vocally dysfunctional with the rasp and probably volume issues as well. Gabby is also bipolar so I’m sure t is not helping either.
That voice sounds painful af. Also, she's got a fucked up voice, she's got a moustache, what does she mean
it hasn't done anything? It's not gunna make you hot, girl.
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Ally Sheedy in The Breakfast Club. Her character is 'the weirdo', so.
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Looks like she lost her dad at the beginning of 2021. I think the trauma from that might have triggered
the troon out. That’s sad.
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Kek I love how even a strawman managed to be more based than any of the troons in existence. I know it's way too early but I kind of want her as the next threadpic, unless something even better shows up later.
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kek your pic made me think of this so i had to
in this scenario, our new queen has just been informed that a woman got the chop, and has come to remedy the situation
Comedy gold, I feel that’s exactly like tifs imagine people reacting to their hehim, oh the trans genocide. But in reality there could be doubts if the id is real, because a person doesn’t look like photo (which is a valid
Also I think there is a genre of “Karen” karma punishment videos - wet dreams for misogynists to jerk off to. So making shit like this is double hilarious - how very progressive of them!
Lmao real-estate terf
Woke translation cheatsheet:>Karen
Bitch who's closer to mom's age than the speaker>Becky
Bitch who's speaker's age (similar to Stacey) and hotter>terf
Bitch who doesn't put men's feelings above everything else>cishet, cissie
Bitch who's more normal than the speaker and possibly hotter (I see theybies use this of their more popular peers a lot)
Also interesting how there are no similar terms for moids. Karen & terf
only apply to women. Troon activism also focuses on fighting terfs, not the moids who actually genuinely do beat up and murder troon prostitutes etc. Even though those moids are where the troon death rates come from other than suicide
her and Hayley were always an annoying couple imo and the fact that she fell off that badly and trooned out after their breakup is hilarious. Last person I was expecting to given she was always a radfem.
her ftm throwaway account where she posted in that sub is actually u/thr0w4w4ae, the posts are deleted after someone commented on one of her posts recognizing her and she deleted them all
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some reddit scraping site saved her pics but yeah
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the posts themselves are deleted, but the replies are still there https://www.reddit.com/user/thr0w4w4ae/
I wonder if the person who recognised her was another transphobic ftm kek
must have been a hell of a break up but she’ll definitely detransition at some point, she can’t live in denial like that forever
Still sucks to see another dyke fall for this shit though
yes, "karen" has just been the term for "woman i want to shut up" for awhile now>>1930660
god she's hot what a shame
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stumbled across this extremely genetically fucked ftm. Scrolling through her post history, she's 28 and has never had sex or a relationship.
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never mind, found this. Having to choose women doesn’t make you a lesbian
If you count being mutuals with them and being friends with their friends as knowing them, yes. I have no doubt they're legit lesbians but I DID think it was dumb of them to reblog content like that at the time cause actual lesbians don't have to resist attraction to men (since there is none). Ash used to make funny posts like this too it's sad (https://hookedonyonics.tumblr.com/post/697583436967362560/embed
>but I don't think intellect is necessarily insulation from any of this. There are lots of ways to intellectualise transition and lots of ways women rationalise patriarchy; it's part of how women survive it.
Fair point. If she still wants to transition even knowing her past then it must be that serious.
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what is the point of words?
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Detrans arc when
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These two girls are tifs now? Man that's sad. I watched buzzfeed as a kid cos it was easy content for my little mind to consume kek and then never thought about it again, but I actually remember these girls. A shame.
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the secret is, it doesn't work on anybody.>>1930594
I'm kinda relieved this is a parody, when I watched it I prayed to god that this wasn't made earnestly>>1930689
The amount of mentally impaired people that are allowed to transition is going to be a huge fucking deal down the line
yeah, this was just a joke about troye sivan on SNL, idk why nonny
Posts like >>1931068
and the ones calling TIFs pooners somehow reek of self-hating NLOT ("Not Like the Other Trannies") to me.
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this 4tranner is so deranged
>>1931145>types out.. whatever the hell is that>"omg its so disgusting guyz!!"
Somehow this post is giving me weird vibes. No idea why, but it does. Some parts were disturbing to read and I can't comprehend why she would obsessively think of and type it out just to paint terf
and/or detrans women as pedophiles. Aside from the fact that everything she listed is solely what moids say instead of those 'evil terfs' they're always complaining about, tifs themselves have a habit of being grossly obsessed with boyhood, youth and being a 'boy'. If I had a nickel for everytime I've seen tifs call themselves boys and never men, I'd be more than just a millionaire. Hell, I'll have enough money to buy the moon kek.
Really weird probably fake post >>1931161
This type of self hatred and attempt to appeal to 4channer males who do nothing but dehumanize and degrade you is so sad.
I feel gross after reading that, I thought she was going to talk about, idk, how TiFs are indeed told that they’re ruining their reproductive health because yeah, that’s a not that important concern nowadays since children can be adopted and whatever, or that their boobs are for feeding babies, which is something else that particularly moids and handmaidens tend to use as a “nooo don’t do it” argument, but it isn’t pedophilic either.
I literally have never seen a woman, which let’s be honest, is the group she’s attacking because all trannies hate women the most, talk about, and this will be gross to type “tight genitals” or “tiny tits” like, lmao what? This retard is just hanging out with moids, other trannies and pickmes that would actually talk that way about the body of a woman.
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absolutely tragic look
not to be pedantic, but isn't the (gag-worthy) phrase "supple little girl boobs" an oxymoron? little girls wouldn't have supple boobs. for that reason alone, no one has ever said that, kek.
also>trans men are so infantilized and sexualized, and i'm certain its because we're afab
fuck… if only there was a word used to group together a group of people who were born a specific sex that face a lot of the similar problems in society…
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anyone already know about this webcomic? it's about a ftm who murders a girl and kinda forces her best friend to dismember the body w her, her drawings are meh but I think it's fun who she decipts tumblr and all the culture surrounding disturbing mentally ill young women, sorry if repost
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Her thread seething about terfs made me chuckle
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here she is with her ugly fucking moid
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He's psychotic, what a catch!
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Thank you, this is exactly what I needed to read tonight.
>>1931800>trans women cartoonist two have influenced me in countless ways have more talent and perspective than any of these shit for brain reactionaries could even dream of.>doesn't name none of them
Of course. Next time will she mention Aaron/Senna Diaz?
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I don't know why I find the way she makes the pages so damn annoying. I'm not going to click for seeing a full image of someone speaking. Gimme more action or frames!
>not a girl at all
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This was drawn two years ago and compare it with >>1931908
looks like she hasn't evolved at all thanks by people licking her "comic".
I'm quite niptick about how she makes the whole comic page like a single frame thing! Do you want me to click over and over to read your comic? Even scrolling to read in Webtoon's vertical mode is less annoying.
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Only halfway through but this comic is such a perfect parody of toxic
tenderqueers from tumblr, it's like having war zone flashbacks. the high/crytyping, the censoring of enemies' names with limited asterisks, the cripplingly online main character's complete inability to function as an adult or take responsibility for anything. and it's fun watching the genderbrained author dodge her own cognitive dissonance. thanks for the rec anon, picrel is my fav character
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I really hope she detransed TIFs can find happiness and their issues can be fixed.
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She’s giving me serious uncanny valley. Body of a middle aged dad who’s given up on himself, but washed up trailer trash mom with a mustache from the neck up. Just why?
Literally nothing about the picture is "masculine" in any way though? It features a young pretty woman, with makeup and jewellery, popular alt fashion feminine hair + clothes style, while posing sensibly by showing her small gentle hand and looking softly into the camera.
It's like she's never even seen a man and have only heard about them in fairytales.
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I'm reading this comic and I'm baffled to see these braindead comments. I feel so bad for Hailey. I still can't belive the author is a tif and wrote such blatant misogyny some lesbians chirstians face and acting it's correct???. I love how she's trying to demonize the sister who's advocating for fair laws so other women won't get killed by a psycho troon
There are definitely some that do that, but I think a lot of them truly think that taking the meds and getting the chop will make them into 'hot' guys, even if they were ugly women (>>1931945 directly says she just wanted to be attractive). Same for moids in the other direction.>>1931812
But he also calls himself a 'homo' lol. Very inconsistent grift!>>1931911
It has like every single 'tumblr artist' hallmark…>>1931946
I can't stand this one. Literally, directly states and shows that she wanted to be an anime boy (more specifically, hyper-fem fanart of one), and also thinks she succeeded. Totally deluded.
Are we sure this isn't a secret terf
comic? The comments from tras acting like calling a woman a woman is a more severe crime than murder and dismemberment must be peaking people by the dozens. Like how can you write this so accurately and still not see how cultish it is?
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I know i'm fucked up for this, but this tweet of hers made me chuckle because it's the exact kind of thing she'd put in her comic to bluntly foreshadow a character getting beaten to death with a hammer by her schizophrenic moid
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can't believe this is how I find out the dresden codack guy trooned out.
female version: i do want to state for the record that i hate it
male version: i will bash in the skull of any terf
who comes within 50 feet of me and rape their corpse
>>1931987>Women get killed for being women>Yeah, but I'm a TIF, what about MEEEEEE?>>1932012
I know a comic written by a terf
and is a whole different world. She focus more in the women and make fun of TRAs. The MS Paint-Homestuck TIF artist wouldn't never show a lesbian couple unless the other is a TIM.
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this is so weird. idk anything about jojo so i went to her page and it's THIS character the girl originally portrayed. she dug so deep making her degenerate gendie-valid
fanart, that had no relation to the original medium, that she surfaced on the other way and she's now making normal semi-cute OC drawings (albeit under a thin layer of tranny), which probably would be the starting point for a teen girl / young adult female artist if internet culture wasn't completely bonkers. i guess you always go back to what's natural to you.
Surprise! And he acts exactly like a TIM would: Wishing to kill women that do not agree with him.>>1932058
I have seen too many "mlm" couples in TIF comics that I don't believe they would add a "normal" gay couple, is always TIF/TIM with a gay person.>>1932061
I think is because most of the time these people know that people do not care about original characters, so making a new one and calling their version of said character is a "fanart", which brings more attention. And then they make their own oc art.
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This is a whole other level to the "Fujoshi to Tif" pipeline,
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Any normal moid: Did you write a fic of me? holy hell, you're a weirdo!
TIF fantasy: oh I totally want to do what you write there. Let's have gay sex!
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i'm not an expert on this question but distinctly remember reading this on tumblr and being dumbfounded
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there is an actual (based af) lesbian character who's demonized as an alcoholic TERF
because she correctly identifies the tifs who let her find her murdered sister's dismembered corpse as women.
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sf, picrel she's talking about a murder victim
and it's played as justified instead of ridiculous and insensitive lmao
I'm surprised she's not shown with JK Rowling merch or Feminist colors. I bet she's going to be the new "victim
" from the TIFs.
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it made me chuckle that this character looks just like MJ from leasebound. The gendie designs in that comic are so perfect.
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The comic isn't that
bad, the premise is kind of interesting but could be done better. I like that the accomplice to murder is so dumb she stays with a random internet friend who is obsessed with both her and the murderer in question, going so far as to date the murderer. I also enjoy that the MLP plushie is in the background of a lot of the panels, constantly smiling as the main character cries. It reminds me of Blobby kek. The art is bad, obviously. The concept could be better but the trans stuff ruins it. I do find it awesome that the main character is a TIF, but only online. I don't know if the person she is staying with, the stoner, is a TIF or TIM or just a girl or maybe a guy or what
. I'm thinking TIM due to the stonerisms and shooting shit in the woods and pressuring the main character to smoke weed and shoot crossbows. And of course obsessing over and stalking the jailed TIF.
disgusting shit i hate all of this bully/abusive
male love interest shit that gets pushed to women. Someone should reply to her with a comic where the fujo beats the guy and calls him an ugly 3DPD
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>a goal to look like the average 80s pedophile uncle
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seeing what's happened to ezra is so unbelievably sad. she used to be really cute in alternative fae girl way.
This was made by a TIF who doesn't know what TIMs want. The only accurate one was Fluttershy but that's another character TIFs also like.>>1932144
She's shy but in a cute way so they relate to her because they also think they're cute even if anyone else thinks they're retarded and she's innocent, good with animals, girly which makes their dicks hard aka euphoria.
I can't blame them tbh if they want to transition to escape being an ugly female. Being ugly as a woman is basically social suicide. Meanwhile scrotes can look like unwashed cavemen and still get the pretty girl like in here >>1931806
And then he has women in this thread calling him "handsome" and more attractive than his pretty girlfriend because he's tall. Being tall means nothing if he is shaped like a hobo caveman. He literally looks like a huge terrifying monster. The world is so unfair to women.
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It's giving this meme kek
Yeah, I do recall Israeli people with tattoos and the "no body modification" is more for Jewish people that do follow the religion. And I know is stupid to compare tattoos with body modifications (then again, we are talking about women that think a full mastectomy with full scars is like the same than having an under boob tattoo).
But that's the closest I could get from the bingo thing.
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The furry fandom have a big problem with moids being misogynists, but yeah, let's focus more about how poor TIFs cannot handle the fact that only women have vaginas.
the coomers gave fluttershy massive boobs>>1932144
the shy characters always attract all the insecure ugly abusive
moids. She's the rei ayanami of MLP
Of course people can say women, but TIFs cry with "not all women have vaginas!", that's why they have to use the AFAB… Which is also Trans erasure because no one think in poor AGP moids.
You cannot win with these people.
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Found out teddy bear has a girlfriend. I mean they are boyfriends. I just looked, it’s another FTM. Why are girls doing this to themselves then dressing the same? What is the attraction
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Teddy bear is the shorter of the two
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Sad, she was cute
The taller one passes in a roundabout Kikomi way kek
giving autists with 0 dress sense access to fast fashion was such a mistake
TIMs probably want to be Jane more than Daria herself - though I'm certain I've seen more than one TIF online living out a cosplay of Trent Lane. >>1932255
If body mods weren't permitted at all in Judaism, then what would every rich Jewish girl get for their sweet 16th? The rhinoplasty industry would collapse like so many 'deviated septums'.(racebait)
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Gendie retardation just jumps out in the most random places huh
You have to admit that she has a point.
And no young girls can and do have boobs. Some girls start breast development as young as 7.The average 13 year old has boobs. Men sexualize pubescent children all the time.
All you have to do is hang out on kiwifarms in the tif threads to see what she means. I don't even visit KF anymore because of nasty horny scrotes running the place.
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"Guys, stop making me and my floppy skin tube feel bad!"
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ok i can't believe this fucking comic. the main character
- is a 23 yo tif without a job living at grandma's
- buys endless amounts of toys with her rich parents' money
- helped dismember a girl her friend killed
- cries and whines and has panic attacks and cuts everytime someone hints that she should either 1) not play the victim
or 2) not have an online presence linked to her identity
- when her parents cut her off she has 50 usd to her name and goes to mcdonald's
- an online friend TIF lets her stay with her rent free and she doesn't clean or cook or do anything to repay the favor, just lays on the couch and watches MLP
and i was like, oooh, that is one self-aware TIF. she knows how she is and she knows how the world reacts to her. maybe she'll encounter hardship, overcome it, and realize she can feel better about herself by helping people and being a valuable member of society. maybe she'll realize her omg transphobe dad wanted structure and progression from her. surely her disgusting permanent cryface and slouched belly on every fucking panel is a way to maximize the whoah effect when she takes charge and makes something out of her life. but the more i go the more i think wtf are we actually supposed to feel compassion for this poor little oppressed baby tranny ??
also half the time the THUMBS are BACKWARDS, which a 6th grader could fix, and picrel is the amazing esl writing.
Are you me, even when I fancied myself emby or whatever, the arm tentacle tube made me think hey wouldn't that just give you more dysphoria to have a downgraded dildo stapled on you>>1932519
That makes me think this character is a self insert for the author or one of her friends, who unironically thinks these traits are fine so is open with them?
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Miss wolfsbane seems to think otherwise, quick look at her posts and she recently had a rough stage 1 frankendick surgery recovery where she says all her dignity left but is ready for stage 2, and she fancies herself not like the other tifs for getting it. And the way she says "I love my odour" here and then admits in the comments of another post that her neo balls constantly smell of sweat and she's given up on that. Sis you don't sound more like a male, or not like the other trannies (a tif calling someone tucute is basically tif infighting I think?) You just sound nasty.
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samefag, i also learnt that the murder victim
's sister is an evil racist terf
for wanting criminals in prison (twans and blacks most affected) and a slave owner abuser because she leaves bottles behind after her alcoholic binges for her black girlfriend to clean up lmao.
this one black character is wholesome and kaweewee and bears a striking resemblance to holly's in paranormal plague (and holy shit, i don't think i'd ever say it but holly's art is leagues better). idk why all badly socialized white girls who write comics default to this kind of empty representation, i guess they think they can't get cancelled if the one character of colour they have is cutesy and feminine
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picrel are some especially funny comments from the author on the pages
thank you for posting this webcomic, it's retarded and butt-ugly but so entertaining
not to derail too much but I read the essay she linked and wow I've never read anything more detached from reality. Using a strawman 'skeptic' to argue some pie in the sky ideas while saying 'well akchually the real bad guys are calling from inside the house!!!'.
Prisons (specifically in the US) aren't doing their jobs by any means but I'd love to see this moid argue this shit with a victim
of one of the rapists he's tripping over himself to defend.You can tell he's never suffered the actions of the people he's sticking up for.
this is not a moid anon, she's a TIF. but yes, she's hugely detached. i would love to ask her what she wants to do with pedos. or any murderer motivated by racism (or twansphobia, although no murderer ever has been, they never shut up about it). the US prison system needs a revamp though.
i haven't read the comic but it sounds like the author has a typical twitter mentality. she could've made the murderer and the sister have positive and negative traits and be well-rounded characters. but instead she makes the sister an ebil terf
so the audience knows to hate her. and because she's a terf
, she can't be morally ambiguous. it sounds like all the characters are one dimensional (correct me if i'm wrong, i'm just basing this off other anon's comments)
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Honestly I think she's milky enough for her own thread.
It's so self-aware it's hilarious. Every character is a negative tranny stereotype and are presented as such yet the author seems totally unaware of her own writing. >>1932559
It was so funny when the tranny looking friend called up the black girl and asked her to not support her girlfriend because black people go to prison more often and she had to yell at him that she isn't a criminal.>>1932587
Prison abolition goes both ways. If a tranny rapist can rape old ladies and kids without prison time then a terf
can just as easily shoot him to death without consequences. Be careful what you wish for trannies.
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And religious convertion is considered a hate crime. A gay person going to surgeries to be the opposite sex is considered good because "better an alive straight daughter than a dead gay son".
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Your forgot to mention her (Claire's, the evil transphobes) childhood friend (Aaron the one on the right), was just some normal nerdy guy who met some other troon friends and he probably trooned out too. It wasn't explicitly shown in the comic yet, but by the way he dresses himself, by how offended he was when Claire insulted his friends by calling them trannies but not by other things, by the comments who constantly call him an egg and a girl, by the intentions of the author, by realizing how impossible it is for other troons to make a character gender non conforming… It's obvious he's a TIM. I bet Haylie (the black gf) is going to realize how abusive
Claire is or something and she's gonna start dating Aaron who will come out as a transbian lmao.
Until I read this thread I genuinely thought the author was writing the terf
sister as sympathetic. She breaks down and cries when giving speeches about passing laws for stricter sentences, and the people around her who are pushing back against her have nothing of substance to say other than "your gf is black, don't you know prisons hate black people?" She's become a depressed alcoholic who lives with guilt. Every time she's lashed out it was after being triggered
over her sister's murder and people throwing buzzwords at her. Trigger
here being used correctly as shes traumatized.(learn to sage)
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The comments have been calling him an egg since his first appearance because he's a basic nerdy white dude with long hair, to the point where every update involving him had comments like "omg aaronina my precious baby girl we love youuu". It's so crazy how hard both the comic and its audience leans into the worst TRA stereotypes and even seems to celebrate them.>>1932694
Seriously I was surprised at how well-rounded Claire is and how much depth and sympathy her story is given (side note but she is implied to be a kiwifarms poster lol, picrel. It's not the first reference to kf either). The audience reaction is interesting too, they seem to go back and forth between "terf
!!" and "I understand where she's coming from tho". Tbh I don't think the author should be all that shocked that she's drawn attention from GC's. She's drawn a very stark image of gendie culture, one that's entertaining to both outsiders and people who have been through it.
Ayrt, you're good! I read the whole thing yesterday because of your post, I find it fascinating. I think the author and the audience think that she's satirizing a type
of person from their in-group, rather than the group itself. There's a lot of "we've all met this person" comments. I also notice that she doesn't do a lot of reflecting on gender (aside from Claire's terf
crimes), except if this were accurate then the events of this comic would be interspersed by Gage's gofundme for her t shots and a screenshot of a youtube essay on how it's not okay to misgender Griffin even though she's a murderer and attempted rapist.
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Glancing through her post history, she is into fanfic and "SlickOmega" probably is a reference to omegaverse fic. All her fantasies about being a breedable omega like her fanfics dashed by the reality that she appears at best like a butch lesbian
I unfollowed an artist who said that. Of course she won't notice it or give a fuck, but one thing is adults doing it and other forcing kids to. No, it doesn't help them at all and most of the time they're given medicine meant for cancer patients.
And no, I don't meant that AGP Sophie Whatever. He can still draw his comics in his echo chamber.
Ah, of course autism
I’ve watched this video recently, there was a tif speaking about self diagnosed autism, then gets an official diagnosis of her being autistic. And there was a decent amount of comments being like: “trans and autistic, same”. Will they ever do the math is a mystery…
Also double fun that her other videos are about romance and boys, what is typically socially considered to be a feminine interest, but no - she fujoed herself into a tif
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yup i'd post there.>>1932708
yeah the sister is really interesting. i think the empathy the author shows her boils down to "poor terves, they are traumatized, but instead of going to therapy they use their trauma as a weapon against innocent trannies, which is inexcusable and evil" which ultimately misses the point.
i have to admit as well her imitation of KF posts is on point, she did browse it and does know which traits make milo a lolcow. but her foresight ends there, because she uses to pitybait, which only works on aimless gendies.
other thing i wanna point out is the sheer amount of consoom.the art is shit, expressionless faces and backwards hands, graphic/fandom tees on every other character and characters from another IP are very carefully rendered like there >>1931896
, (where, btw, we're supposed to feel sorry that her father tosses away her hoard of plushies that doesn't fit in his house, where she can live for free until she has a job). it's like she thinks liking anime or whatever adds depth to the personality of the characters, like milo liking MLP = cinnamon roll smol bean, the terf
liking NGE and portal = boy's media = she's an NLOG curmudgeon womanhater. her world is entirely online and she can only portray characters that are online, where your personality is your fandom. i can't fathom any of her characters gardening or playing a sport, there's only the goth tranny working in a funeral home, but that's just ~part of his aesthetic~. picrel is the grandma's precious moments figures, even HER personality is consoom.
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Wow, I thought this was a joke.
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Christ. What prompts women to do this after their teen and college years?
the funeral house goth is a tim? aww.
also kek at the comments saying that things like the dismembered girl wearing a mitski tee says a lot about her ~personality~ or recognizing x character from main tif's shelves. i see many comments praising the "depth" of the little details, like overdetailed fandom merch in the background, and it's like this is their first "dark" piece of literature, if you can call this that.
Yes, and being against the sterilisation of kids is now framed as “denying trans kids healthcare”. They’re deliberately framing it as if a 14-year-old Aiden who shows up to the ER with a broken bone would be turned away for being trans. I’ve had to explain to normies that no, that’s not happening, and the only “healthcare” anyone is trying to “deny” these children is shit like cosmetic mastectomies and puberty blockers.>>1932831>I get male pronouns at work
Because they had a meeting behind her back where the manager was instructed by HR to tell everyone they must play along with her delusion or else. How can they be so naive? If everyone who isn’t informed about your special pronouns in advance assumes you’re a woman that’s because you ARE a woman and look like one. There is no mystery there.
They either say that puberty blockers and hormones are 100% safe and reversible (when in reality there is no guarantee that fertility or other sexual function will be restored upon cessation; many people also report developing painful bone issues after using lupron), or they say that freezing eggs and sperm are an option.
Or they just call you a pedophile for expressing concern about the effects these drugs may have on a kid's future fertility/ability to function in future relationships they may have in adulthood.
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Some fucking TiF made an SCP about a fakeboi Aphrodite. Troons really do ruin everything. The interview logs are complete cringe lmfao. The exact kind of shit you'd expect out of a TiF. I'm making it my headcanon that this isn't actually Aphrodite but some schizo troon lol. Thankfully I moved on from my Greek mythology phase.
Btw I hope Akhlys appears in the author's dreams, chanting "You will never be a man" and burning the troon flag.
Is anyone actually saying that you can combine freezing eggs/sperm with puberty blockers? I’ve only ever heard of TIMs freezing sperm before going on estrogen as fully grown adults. I’m not a medical doctor but getting fertile gametes from a prepubescent child sounds… less than feasible. Also the whole process of extracting eggs is extremely hard on the body so doing that to a vulnerable pubescent girl is a whole other level of medical abuse. Can we just leave these kids alone to develop normally for fucks sake
>Or they just call you a pedophile for expressing concern
One I’ve been seeing more of recently is “breeder”, even within some gc circles. Stop focusing so much on fertility, breeder! Why do you care if 14 year old girls get radical double mastectomies, breeder? Because eugenics is cool as long as you do it to children, I guess.
They’re right to criticize their focus on fertility as if it’s the most important part of transitioning. Most of these women are transitioning because they feel some sort of discomfort with the traditional role women are delegated to and it’s very disconnected and short-sighted to think that pointing it out to transitioning women is helpful at all. If anything, it makes them more set in their intention to transition and distance themselves from that role.
People who bring up fertility as if it’s the most important thing aren’t actually concerned with the well-being of these women at all and TiFs, as obtuse as they are, can pick up on that. Much more relevant and urgent concerns of transition like higher risk of osteoporosis, heart disease, stroke, uterine cancer, and all the severe complications and chronic conditions resulting from surgeries are rarely brought up in mainstream GC/conservative circles, which is very telling.
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nta but i think all women would be happier to avoid being a mother so i don't think that this topic should be brought up at all, especislly not to TIFs(derailing)
Besides post natal depression and exetreme body dysmorphia.
Samefagging because I missed something.(derailing)
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Idk if this belongs here but this is so viscerally disturbing to me
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What the actual fuck
The thing is that the SCP Wiki is (or at least was) known for being incredibly picky about what makes it onto the site. A self-insert ftm Aphrodite might be as uninteresting as it gets. The whole article can be summed up in "anomalous schizo who claims to be Aphrodite throws godmoding tantrums at being called Aphrodite and wants to be called by some generic ass TiF name". That's it. It's fucking rediculous that this poorly-written garbage gets let on the site simply because the mods love to bend over backwards for troons.>>1933196
Yeah I remember that one. Fucking shameful that the admins decided to keep that garbage up despite it being downvoted to hell.
not to derail, but no one called him handsome, defended him, or said he was more attractive than her. >>1931838
this is the closest that comes to "defending" him and i know a moid didn't post this because i, a mean and i guess? judgemental woman, said that kek. he's not good-looking, but neither is she. they are both average.
i just thought it was honestly bizarre that so many anons are calling this specific, bland, tif pretty when lots of more conventionally attractive women get posted to these threads and get picked apart
Fertility may not matter to everyone, but sexual function matters to most people, even people who do not desire romantic or sexual relationships with other people. HRT may have negative, maybe even permanent, effects on sexual function, but TRAs pretend they are completely reversible.
TRAs, if they aren't writing fanfiction about full-body girlgasms, also still promote it as "worth the euphoria (even if it completely destroys your ability to ever feel sexual pleasure again)!" They acknowledge that you may come out of it never being able to coom again yet still say it will be worth it for… reasons.
But again, bringing up concerns on the effects on future sexual function on the topic of "trans kids" gets you called a pedophile.
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>Getting that ‘femboy bottom tortured in a dungeon for years’ physique
More like "getting that 'pro-ana wet drean' physique. The comments do not help neither. I would tell her to visit a doctor or something.
NTAYRT but yes Vikki is a troon, the newest chapter has him looking at gore and an image of a dead woman in fishnets and the next page is him posing in the same exact pose wearing fishnets and the comments are > I'm interpreting this as Vikki doing morbid dissociative roleplay for the gender euphoria> I don't think she's positioned herself to recreate the crime scene picture, I think she's been drawn in this position to create a symbolic connection- the woman in the picture is literally dead, Vikki feels dead inside> Vikki's femininity seems to be entwined with death to some degree, and she's not actually all that different to Gage at the same point in their lives. I guess we'll see if she diverges from that path or if she's just as fucked up as everyone else. I'm leaning towards the latter. she's a true crime girlie even in the "present"
Then he meets Xandra before he trooned out and Vikki shows him a dead body (you can’t tell if it’s a woman or man or if it’s in person or just a photograph because the art is so bad) and saying “it’s just like liveleak” and all the troons in the comments just find it funny and relatable. The tim characters in this comic never really get any in-universe punishment, and the fans defend it all. This newest chapter seems like it’s leading up to something bad happening to Vikki at least, but the creator is so misogynistic it’ll likely be nothing or just him killing himself and all the characters praising him for being stunning and brave. The creators going to save anything actually horrific for the tif characters like Milo or the TERF
character Claire who went missing at the end of the last chapter. I think the comic and creator would make an interesting thread but I can see her doing what homunculus did since she’s very aware of lolcows.
I will say, nothing has made me devalue my own guts and the views of doctors quite like knowing how many medical professionals respond to women with debilitating uterine conditions with "but what if you and your (future) husband want babies someday". Of course I know removing my uterus would have far more complications that actually affect me, personally, than just "I can no longer be the broodmare I never wanted to be in the first place", but patriarchal society truly does make it feel like our bodies are burdens when they're really not.>>1933298
I'm honestly expecting the author to punish the token black female character for supporting her traumatized GF and not instantly being a prison abolitionist who does everything that TIMs tell her to do by having either her or one of her siblings be imprisoned, possibly as a result of being wrongfully accused or racially profiled. My bet is on her younger brother, who was implied to be mentally challenged.
>>1933310>"but what if you and your (future) husband want babies someday"
sageblog but I'm childfree and my answer is break with that moid. There's no point in dating someone that you're not compatible with. It should be viewed as normal for breaking for kids rather than "you're just a selfish person for breaking with your love for something so trivial".
But since this is not the place to be off topic, I also find unfair I have to get that surgery with all the risks because my partner is so lazy to wear a damn condom.
Which leads me to think in all the tifs doing the same surgery but more because "men do not have uterus and I would donate mine to a TIM".
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This from the account of 13 year old girl, she's terminally online on reddit all day, addicted to yaoi and wants to be a "femboy".
AYRT I’m a native English woman. Everywhere has common phenotypes, it’s just what happens when somewhere has a definable gene pool for long enough (literally any established nation) regardless of its size. >>1933271
Pro-ana sites have become absolutely full of TIFs in recent years, unsurprisingly. Both anorexia and transgenderism contain a psychological element of body detachment and subsequent objection/‘control’
Not to mention the professionals that deal with pregnant women and babies are classist and racist as well. Black women and poor women are far more likely to die in childbirth or be treated like shit when they get pregnant because they grew up in foster care or trying to escape an abusive
moid. Mothers and pregnant women are treated like incubators especially if they are marginalized. Having children just makes everyone hate you even more.(samefagging own blogpost)
I'm this >>1933168
>>1933164 anon and I was only talking about what the stupid screenshot was listing because of the "hag nose" comment, why would I be horrified about the idea of pregnancy if there weren't any complications or fucked up long term side effects both physically and socially? Is it wrong for me to point out that using a screenshot of lolcow to prove an arguement is at least mildly retarded?
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>Go to profile pic
>It's a TIF
Everytime. It's clockable on artstyle alone but you had to add in the Fag too why don't you. Apologies if this has been posted before
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Is this her second vent account? The typing style is very similar.https://www.reddit.com/user/leehooni_kin/
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The character she has as a profile pic is from a manhwa (Korean webcomic) known as "Suicide boy". The character she kins is the protagonist, Lee Hooni. His mother died from illness, his abusive
drunk father abandoned him, left him with a giant debt to pay, he gets bullied at school and in every chapter he tries to find a new way to kill himself but fails everytime. He's very socially awkward, traumatized, has low self esteem, regularly self harms and does terribly in school. As the comic progresses he gets more friends who care about him and he's not as suicidal. At the beginning it's comedic, yet sad, however it gets very coomerish. The author (he is male, not a TIF) is a femboy, draws shotas on his Twitter, and has picrel as a self-insert in the comic named Sana. He is Hooni's next-door neighbor, as well as a very popular (and spoiled) webcomic illustrator. His previous comics starts selling less so he tries to make up a new idea. After meeting Hooni, he starts visiting him to take notes from him, pretending to be his friends while he basically milks his depression for money. The comic's art quality has gotten better but now it's just filled with coomerish jokes and the latest chapters were all about one very athletic intimidating girl who has a crush on Hooni because he's cute, trying to change her appearance to be more attractive to him and giving up boxing. Picrel is how his self-insert used to look vs what it looks like now.
TRA logic is that you can't transition to another race because race isn't a social construct (it is, sex isn't) race isn't a spectrum (it is, sex is not) race is genetic (so is sex) and race dysphoria "isn't a thing" (40 years ago, neither was gender dysphoria, and body integrity disorder is "a thing" but we don't enable it.) It's totally stupid. If they want to be logically consistent, they have to start enabling the Rachel Dolezals and Buffy Saint-Maries of the world, too. As far as I'm concerned, nothing goes or everything goes. It's a great example of how contradictory and destructive idpol is; in trying to defend marginalized identities, people have gone full horseshoe-theory, eroding away protections for women, resurrecting the noble savage trope, and acting aggressively paternalistic.
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This is what he looks like. The pic isn't recent, plus he dyes his hair different colors all the time. And this is his Twitter: https://twitter.com/ch960116
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finally, a place to post this ftmtftm or whatever the fuck kind of convoluted shit she’s going for(spoiler nsfw content)
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Don't forget the "You don't need a formal diagnosis"
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Is he trans now?
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How sad that you cannot report the account since Reddit is for 13 and older. >>1933418>>1933419
Same energy. Funny thing is that TIFs all bark and no bite.
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Holy Hell, I'm surprised she's not banned off Reddit ('I don't go to nsfw boards', right). I'm surprised no one have report her, specially when the first account was made when she was 11 years old. Someone tell her that is ok to be a tomboy.
"Oh my mom agrees with the transphobe" She's right.
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I'm not surprised if she's taking the "male pseudonym/persona" to her comic. Imagine all the westerns horrified that a Korean woman is doing "MLM stuff".
>>1932938>And they whine themselves how they would die if they don't go on hormones now.
This is just conditioning from all the trans propaganda about teen trans suicides.
"Would you rather have a dead daughter or a happy son?" bullshit.
Trans brainwashing is vile.
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>>1933540>1: masturbaiting is normal for a 13 year old especially since I’m still going through puberty and my hormones are going batshit insane
One thing is masturbating, other is masturbating while watching porn. One is normal, other is not at such young age.
> 2: masturbaition actually has a bunch of benefits like stress relief and shit. Idc about “b-b-but it’s a sin"
Nowhere that user said masturbation is a sin, she said that you can do more stuff so you can avoid to WATCH PORN.
>3:"I have an addiction broski it ain’t that easy to just do that"
If you have an addiction, go seek mental help, but I bet she'll deny it because "doctors do not understand that I'm a man!".
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Last post, but… "You keep using that word".gif
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This is what I mean when I talk about the harms porn addiction can have young women and girls, I was into really fucked up shit at a young age and It took me a while to recover but I had to do it my own cause there are basically no resources for specifically young girls and I can specifically that there are no resources for those into yaoi porn(Which she seems to be into)
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You're probably confusing this. >>1933424
is the 13 year old. >>1933516
is the author of the webcomic she likes. And he's a "femboy", he streams sometimes and his voice is clearly of a man. This is his most recent video. I don't understand Korean, so I don't know if he's a TIM now https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9spL0UpUcBA
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Saged for ot, I'll refrain from posting more about this to avoid derailing the thread. But I feel like it's just a pedo moid who might be microdosing on estrogen or is just fat enough to have gross moobs. He probably also had some work done on his face to make his features softer and photoshops his pictures a lot, however both his voice (there's videos of him with other people too so I doubt he's using a voice changer) and manner of talking is very male. I don't how to explain it properly, but there's just expressions, tone and stuff like that in korean language that makes it obvious when someone is male/female or what gender they were raised by/mostly surround themselves with (like if someone only has male friends, they might use male humour and expressions more often). It could be a larping tif too but I clearly remember how even that one korean tif who's brought up a lot in this thread (the one with landwhale boyfriend), wasn't able to pass off as male in her speech as much as this sorry excuse of a human being does. Besides, korean bl authors or female authors in general aren't really known for using male pseudonyms just to please the western audience, they literally couldn't care less. There's also picrel (that I'm going to spoiler because he's ugly), and those hands and feet don't lie. All tims get clocked at a glance because of them kek.
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Took 4 seconds of scrolling on reddit to find this. Some troon seething over the fact that "wuh all my friends detransed!" God forbid your friends outgrow your delusion kek
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Samefag and I found his old pic. It's definitely a moid.
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So apparently girls can't play tags, can't feel confident or consider themselves better than the boys, can't play with bugs without being scared of them, and are physically incapable of crawling through a drainage pipe unless there's secretly a male brain inside their head.
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Peak fakeboi moment.
playing with bugs is a girlhood experience. think about it, how many TIFs love bugs as opposed to TIMs? and it's not like TIMs hide their male interests (all the ones into programming, tanks and gore come to mind)
girls play with bugs, boys squish them. also the girls in her school didn't play tag? sounds like she's rewriting her own memories
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sageblog but I have been called "boy" for not wanting to fangirl about the Backstreet boys and instead I wanted to talk about Dragon Ball.
"We are breaking the gender norms" while trying to act like "real men". You can be a woman with other kind of hobbies, tifs, is ok.
>>1933605>Female = feminine, showing cleavage, heavy makeup, dresses
TIFs live react to Mary Tyler Moore frequently wearing pants on TV in the 1960s without calling her "trans masc" challenge (impossible).>"FTM femininity is fine though!"
Trenders rely on trutrans to "prove" trannery "isn't a trend", trutrans rely on trenders to "prove" trannery "isn't based around regressive gender roles and stereotypes.">>1933627
My childhood perfectly matches the "trans masc childhood" described in the first comment. A lot of other women I know would relate to that description as well. Were we all just "secretly boys"? No. We were just explorative and ambitious, like most children are. Those childhood memories of being rowdy, adventurous, and craving respect stand out far more to women than they do to men, though, since little girls are told to repress those parts of themselves much more often than little boys are.
Autism + yaoi brainrot is real. It’s odd (and depressing) seeing her profile because I was exactly
the same before I peaked. Hopefully she realizes soon or her parents monitor her web activity better
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not quite milky but perhaps some good news? A tif artist seemed to have detransitioned both herself and her persona
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Found in the wild, a friend group of gross looking "alt" he/it/they/she tiffanies, one even having fresh sh out in the open. In another video there's more on her back for some reason too. Real classy.
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rare based reddit moment
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I don’t understand. If I saw her I would assume she was a butch lesbian. I don’t think that is audacious of me.
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>>1933796>They are like oh yeah you want to be a man, understandable.
Hmmm… I wonder why people recognize that being a man is easier than being a woman? It's almost as if society automatically places females in the underclass based on their biology. I wonder why evil TERFS are desperately trying to preserve the already scarcely-held beleif "gender" doesn't shape your whole being?
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This trend is kind of sad but it’s hilarious when someone terminally online westernized gendie girl complains about being disconnected with her culture. There’s a reason
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She does realize it’s men making up the most vile transphobic memes and 99 percent of men are transphobic? Does she not realize it’s mostly women who are defending them half the time and men associate tranny support with women and blame women for it becoming more “acceptable”? How much of a cock sucker do you have to be to meme yourself into believing that uhm actually it’s women who are the problem? Lmao and of course it’s easier to be a man, they have a lot less to fucking worry about.
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I find it so weird when people comment "you're so handsome" and other variants on tif posts because like, never are the tifs wearing anything that would make even a 'cis' man considered handsome.
Can we get more posts like this? Makes me happy to see young women escaping the cult. (Also, she went from 1.5k to 60.8k followers within the same year? Dayum.)>>1933627
Everyone plays tag, wtf. In my experience, more so girls than boys. Also the bug thing being the most Tiffany stereotype ever (but the interest of almost zero actual adult men) should tell them something.
Anyone can have any interest, when men have them they're more respectable. Like 2000s 'if a woman likes video games she's doing it for attention', male sewing = zomg so cool manly lifeskills while a woman sewing is just boring women's labor, etc.
Digging for bugs is a common childhood activity regardless of gender, I remember digging for a lot of them on the playground myself. But of course a male entomologist is far more respectable than some woman with the same interest.
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99% sure it’s a tif KEK
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>>1933775>'found in the wild'>'fresh sh'>66 likes
are we seeing the same picture? they're quite clearly long since healed and scarred over. what's supposed to be milky about a picture of some random alternative gendie who used to cut herself (as though that's such a rare thing)? how many tries did it take you to get that perfect screenshot of the one frame where the scars are best visible, in a video featuring multiple people, nonnie
? is it a coincidence that this is the only video or image that shows said scars on either her own or her friend's account? your vendetta is so obvious i am embarrassed on your behalf, frankly. idk what this 19 year old 'he/it' did to you, but posting on lolcow.farm will not heal you, kek. find inner peace.
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I don't get why he'd lie about that. It's rare but Hyperprolactinemia exists and can cause breast growth in males. picrel is a translation from his YouTube community page. I don't think it's relevant to keep bringing him up as he's not a TiF and not a TiM either. But if you want to go with the secretly on hrt theory, agree to disagree.
This ayden has never met a man in her life or has a massive learning disability. I cannot fathom existing at any given point in time, looking around and thinking that "men don't get defensive over masculinity".
If I had to guess, they laugh internally and go "yeah, cool" whenever a pudgy horse girl announces that she's a man. The sped may actually believe this is proof they're coolly and manlily "accepting" her (autism).
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The contents of my post were revealed to me in a divine vision. If you're too unenlighted to get it, sad to be you, I guess…
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You don't actually exist nonnies, and so the tif that made the post isn't real I guess
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I think they will unironically accept kikomi one day
sounds like an undercover terf
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Okay dont know where to put this so I'll put it here. Why dont tifs use roids like old school female body builders? The testosterone they get prescribed just makes them chubby and hairy, not really masculine apart from the beard. Now roided up hgh women however, blow ftms out of the water with their maculinisation. Like the old school roid woman looks way more male, body wise and face wise, than the average tif.
It's cus they don't exercise, that's why they get chubby and weird. If they did they'd get muscular. They are almost always depressed or lazy nerdy shut ins and some are already over weight to begin with, so of course they wouldn't look for a way to get better/healthy
Anyway, it's funny how I saw that pic in the front page and clocked the tif immediately, no T will ever change this frame kek
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I haven't seen any non-amerifag TIF obsessed with cowboys. Here's why I think it happens, though
1. Horsegirl phrase in one of its many manifestations.
2. Many TIFs said they like how cowboys represent freedom. Cowboys live alone, they're strong, cool and most importantly independent. No one tells them what to do. They transition in the first place because they find more freedom in being a man so they long for the freedom cowboys have.
3. Another TIF said "I think historically the cowboy probably resonated significantly with gay men." She talked about the movie Brokeback Mountain, that many gay men loved. The TIFs obsessed with cowboys are the same ones who consider themselves gay men and are obsessed with them. It makes sense they'd try to skinwalk gay men by trying to have the same likes and dislikes as them.
4. Another TIF said that cowboys, vampires, pirates and monsters are popular with "queer people". Aka straight women. These ones just find cowboys attractive.
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I don't get what Cowboys have to do with freedom? Cowboys were workers whose job was to herd large groups of cattle, the danger in their lives was usually against bandits and groups of natives and they were employed by wealthy businessman and landowners, it's like claiming a border guard as an ideal of freedom.
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reminder to always accuse tifs of mansplaining whenever they go into detail about something, it makes them really upset. oh well, they're men, right?
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nah, not brokeback mountain related, cowboys are literally just "in" right now. they've also especially been "rebranded" by lgbt people as being symbols of freedom and rebellion, which is a fine idea, but uhh 99.9% of the people obsessed with them have absolutely no idea of what cowboy life is like. see orville peck, whose music i like, but he's some canadian city boy completely skinwalking a southern american cowboy aesthetic.
accusing them of mansplaining is just about the most perfect way to make them question their entire existence without actually talking about trans issues, imo. because mansplaining is a real issue women face, so if you accuse someone of mansplaining the accused is instantly the one who has to make the situation right. that means a tif literally cannot redeem herself unless she wants to try and claim that trans men aren't actually men. all she can do is say "i'm sorry i'll do better" and go cry, otherwise. i highly suggest treating tifs like annoying men when you encounter them, it makes them question everything. it might even make them detrans, which is a win. be sure to also casually talk about how much you hate men, how stupid and sexist and insufferable men are, etc when in their presence.>>1934327
well yeah but you can't deny there's an resurgent idea of "cowboys are a cool aesthetic" among the youths today that for sure didn't exist in the early 00s or 90s
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yeah i'm not from the fatass land. but normie youth aren't into cowboys, and cowboys being a thing in lgbt spaces isn't anything new they have always been there
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tbf, The distortion of cowboys goes way before modern TIFs and "queer" historians. As stated, cowboys were just cattle herders, many of whom were mostly poor whites, mestizos, and quite a few black men. The job wasn't glamorous by any means. However, it was mostly due to Buffalo Bill's rodeo shows around the end of the settlement of the old west in mostly metropolitan cities that most of the myths of the old west began. His shows were "episodes of life in the old west", watched by millions of people in the citie. These shows basically informed an entire generation of Americans about what life in the old west was like. These distorted version would be further perpetuated by Hollywood movies where the role of cowboy and frontiersman were mixed together. Generations later, queer historian took the research of academics who pointed out how that image in most media is a lie (which is true), but then distorted it even further and created an equally, if not more false, image of queer men and women in racial harmony who wanted to be away from state authority and wanted "freedom".
idk sis you're the one contesting that it's not a modern trend when it totally is, def giving off vibes of crotchety old lady who hates the kids. now stop derailing bc you're having an age crisis>>1934340
thanks for this, people pretty much gentrified cowboys.(derailing)
excellent advice nonna, will be doing this going forward. even bs about how i feel uncomfortable alone with a man when i'm with a tif hahah. at best it will make them rethink everything and at least i can get away from gendies without transphobia accusations. although i've noticed how these days people make sure to specify cis
men and cis
women when they make blanket statements about either sex, so it's implied that trannies can never do wrong and that it's bigoted to think otherwise..
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…What does this mean? Why are they making up terms to infight now?
The masculinized face definitely comes from bone structure changes kek.>>1934294
It's because literally nobody wants to look like a moid, moids included. You wouldn't believe how many retarded moids do roids and then don't understand why becoming more virilized also made them uglier when podcast raw keto ray peat roman empire daddy #15637 said muh skulinity is attractive.
Virilization is not visually attractive, at least not in a way that young girls understand. It's also innately tied with aging, so humans are wired to perceive highly virilized faces as older. The aesthetics of a handsome masculine face hinge on a very thin line between "girl" and "prehistoric chimp". Men stay within that range between 18 and (at most) 28. From that point on, past-prime virilization begins to kick their asses.
Female troons instinctively understand that, and are unwilling to trade their futile hopes of looking like a twink/twunk in his prime for a guarantee at passing. I've only ever seen 3 ftms who went the T/HGH route. One is Buck Angel, the other one is that one other chick that looks like Buck Angel, the third one was some random "truscum" or whatever they're called. The rest aim for boyish aesthetics that would be ruined by juicing.
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Do you know how anything in the body works? Your bones are calcified by the time you’re an adult and growth plates are closed so they’re unable to change in shape in any meaningful way like you’re proposing. The only significant bone changes that come after adulthood come from repetitive load bearing (accumulating bone density, which is why strength training is important and recommended for women to avoid osteoporosis), or osteoporosis and similar conditions themselves, or any type of forceful manipulation like smashing your fucking shin into a metal pipe repeatedly or wearing a really tight corset. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6469959/
Do you know how anything in the body works? You obviously won't grow taller re: growth plates, but roids WILL make your head bigger and your face brickier even if you started at 50, which you often see in walled moids who go to "male wellness clinics" for TRT. You will also likely grow bigger hands and feet. HGH has drastic effects at absolutely any age, the only difference is where it will grow shit, not whether it will grow at all - that part is a certainty.
In fact, this process happens in negligible amounts to normal non chemically polluted cismoids due to endogenous hormones alone.
From what I can tell, “transmed” = troo trans = truscum = your Kalvin Garrahs/Blaire Whites/The Offensive Trannies/Buck Angels
The official definition is>Transmedicalism is the idea that being transgender is primarily a medical issue related to the incongruence between an individual's assigned sex at birth and their gender identity, characterized by gender dysphoria. Transmedicalists believe individuals who identify as transgender without experiencing gender dysphoria or desiring to undergo a medical transition through methods such as hormone replacement therapy or sex reassignment surgery are not genuinely transgender. They may also exclude those who identify themselves as non-binary from the trans label.
imo, i appreciate that they usually acknowledge biological reality, but on the other hand they’re still as delusional as >>1933938>>1933775>>1933271
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Have you never seen an old school female body builder? Or any man on roids after a while? HGH definitely changes your face structure even as an adult.
And if what you claim is true, that bone structure is set as an adults, nobody would suffer from acromegaly, and they do.
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You forgot brokelegs mountain
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these are the staple edgelords of our day and age
Fun fact: genderspecial mtf troons did this to trucum ftm troons at some point years ago on tumbler, back when it was trendy for bricky girldick shims to call themselves "baeddels". The result was exactly what anons described - malding, frothing and immediately pivoting to terfy vagueposts with heavy implications that trans women are men (some went totally mask off with that) and that trans men are incapable of talking over cis or trans women because they were at some point women themselves. The malding trucums were "bros" that would always perform some sexist remarks to sound more bro-ish, too. It only took being perceived as an actual man for a moment for all of their nonchalant bro-ness to vaporize into seething and crytyping.
Another one I recommend is demeaning white ginger troons as white women, and accusing them of white women tears whenever you can. Always guaranteed to make them troonsplain to you about how they're aktually not white or aktually not real women.
>>1934471>malding, frothing and immediately pivoting to terfy vagueposts with heavy implications that trans women are men
uh oh, toxic
you poison your own movement by turning off everyone but those most delusional and out of touch with reality and spew all this toxic
nonsense about 'real twanz wiminz' (there is no such thing) and 'fake' 'malding' TiMs. They're all male and using phrenology-tier logic to suggest otherwise is insane.
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The obsession with pirates to me is even more weird. cause unlike cowboys, even the media which portrays pirate in a positive light, acknowledges that they were plunderers and murders (and often rapists). Now historically around the world most pirates were basically generational bandits from coastal communities. They were doing it for loot and nothing more. During the golden age of piracy, these pirates were mostly former conscripted sailors and a few naval officers basically trying to make money without any taxes from the Government. When they were referred to as the "dregs of society", it wasn't because they were queer rebels. It was because they were lower-class peasants who betrayed their crown. Often, these rebels would side with the governments of other nations. So, English pirates would be offered amnesty by the French or Spanish if they only raided English ships, and vice versa.
even the most historically illiterate person can realize how retarded of a take vidrel is, I guess the only queer thing about the pirates was that they probably raped the cabin boy, but I can't imagine being this out of touch with reality.
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I remember how people were amazed by learn the story about Zheng Yi Sao and "yaaaaaaz queen!", ignoring she was a pirate too doing illegal things too. Of course she's always attributed to the "three codes for the pirates for the Red Flag Fleet".
But if you ask me, the obsession of TIFs with Mafias/cartels stuff is what grins my gears. All of them are into "mafia lifestyle" or "MLM mafia au" with rich people and bodyguards everywhere, but go ahead and try to live under the 'ndrangheta or la Bratva without being used as white trade slave. I know people love fiction, but they should learn a thing or two.
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holy shit I remember this, it would always end with the tif threatening suicide or posting sh. I was fascinated with the baeddels, especially one of them who was sort of their chronically online, obese rat king, but it's been almost 10 years I've lost track of what the url was (it might have been baeddel itself). One of their insults of choice for TIFs was "shrimpdick" and it had them shaking and crying, because they couldn't even begin to say anything about the TIMs in return without having to suicidepost and DFE.
I hope some of this era of tumblr has been archived, it was very entertaining to watch these crabs in a bucket. Though it still happens sometimes, picrel from the TIM thread.
Oh my god, that's a username I haven't seen in years. I used to follow toplioncub in my anti-sjw phase and I used to agree with transmedicalists, but I noticed a lot of them disappeared after awhile. A decent amount of those truscum bloggers were radicalized by how the baeddels treated them exactly how men treat women and TERF
'd out. It was kind of epic.
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Kek I just remembered another username that would pop up a lot - transmansable? Pic related
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Saw this comment on a random blog and I wonder how people don't find this fucked up and are ok with it(also the poster is "heteroflexible" whatever the fuck that means)
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Got a message from the mods about the pornsick TIF and I saw her profile. Funny how the community attacks her for something so obvious. I hope she wakes up.
bodybuildingfag incomming but it's a bit more complicated.
Female bodybuilder get man face from lack of facial fat aswell as dehydratation, but also masseter muscles growth, that what make it different from skelly or grandma faces. Pic related is someone with non roid related "overgrown" massetter muscles vs after they got treatement to make them shrink, it's one of the key element of the roid face.
Biggest difference with tiffanies other than muscle building exercices, taking gear and HGH which promote muscle growth and soft tissue recovery is the use by bodybuilding women of estrogen blockers, which make you lose fat in the part of the body women tend to collect some on, and help to show off your muscles there. It's almost more "gender affirming" than gear look wise but harder to make some clueless hormone therapist use because tif's don't even cycle gear they blast it all year like it's candy. Gear also make you retain water in the face a lot, that why bodybuilder often look goofy when their not cutting but on gear.>>1934431
acromegaly does impact growth plates fusion, making it possible to graw taller after puberty, some form can develop later in life and give you bone growths aswell as bigger hands and face like Joe Rogan ( who took exogenous HGH for years constantly as an adult, and still it mostly make your muscles bigger ) but don't make you taller, just larger, like trying to make waffers bigger by coating them multiple time in chocolate vs stacking multiple waffers.
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Posting a classic.
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>her response to the haters
These two retards look nothing like >>1934892
. The moid looks caucasian as fuck but the drawing makes him look like an indian. >>1934894
tif is guilty about dating a fucking white male
kek at her making herself white and him poc
All great points. But remember that the female baseline is already innately less IGF'd, HGH'd and T'd, so a woman will gain more acromegalymaxxing from taking them than a moid would.
If tifs were serious about passing they would've juiced. Even if you don't lift you'll still look like an ugly and unfit yet convincing moid.
true, and taking PED simply virilize women vs taking PED for men just make them roid monsters ( maybe a bit "manlier" but mostly older looking ).
I also wonder if tiffanies don't really have the effect of common roid cycling from their exogenous T because unless it's the daily cream thing ( and I doubt most tif put it on a large enough zone daily for it to be effective ), most are prescribed a long ester that they inject at the beggining of the month and often stop acting in their system before the next shot, maybe supressing their natural T badly. I had more virilizing and muscle gaings from stoping hormonal BC than a lot of those girls have from pharm grad T ( and I don't have PCOS ).
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>>1931035>who are now accepting of their more feminine traits
GEE WHIZ, almost like the idea that you're born in the wrong body is fucking retarded, and this entire trans epidemic is just terminally online insecure people with no self-esteem thinking that their problem is their fucking gender expression, and not their overall self-image and self-worth. Fucking imagine that.
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Holy shit this guy kept getting dunked on by other comic artists for being blatantly misogynistic and objectifying of women, and OF COURSE he troons out. I looked up Mary Cagle's comic about him, and of course she's deleted it now. The only way these moids can get back at women is by trooning out so the other online troons will become their personal army to go after anybody that dares to criticize them. I don't blame her for not wanting to deal with that.
Thankfully the internet never forgets.
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A few threads ago some blessed nonna made this edit.
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And of course he can be even more misogynist!
I know this should be posted in the TIM thread but funny how men decided to transition to TrANs WoMEn when they're being called out.
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I can't take these gender loons seriously when they start being obnoxious about being "misgendered".
This facial masculinization trend among tifs is so bleak. Reminds me of the reddit chick who got botched and severely disfigured.(no screenshots, no sage)
Honestly, if a bunch of gendies are this passionate about a sociopolitical issue, it makes me want to examine if I want to be on the same side as these lunatics.
Did they care this much about the war in Syria? No. Did they care this much about China’s treatment of Ughyurs? No. Did they care this much when Roe v. Wade was overturned? No.
If gendies, en masse, are this passionate about an issue, I’m going to guess they’re either on the wrong side of it or they legitimately are blowing it out of proportion.(bait)
kek this is great>>1934992
truly fascinating how his "new tactic" against terfs relies entirely on terfs identifying with a gender and caring if other people respect it or not.. how retarded and self-centered can trannies be. terfs do not believe in gender ideology, it's the whole point omg
here, the other day a kindly old man wished me a "good day, sir" and then tripped all over himself trying to apologize when he realized his mistake.
I chuckled and told him, "it's not that important, don't sweat it" because it's really not.
It got worse! This poor woman.
Same here too, seems mostly a white person thing because chronically online white zoomers seem to think collecting oppression points is quirky and fun akshully because they've never known what discrimination is like that (so why wouldn't you want it to stay that way?!) I can definitely see south asian girls for example trooning out because of the victim
shaming so prevalent in this culture and the strict gender roles that are just upheld as tradition at this point despite all the harm it's doing. A lot of brown girls opt for escapism through things like sports, books, and anime first though.
Her boyfriend isn’t white because it’s “not” her boyfriend and the girl “isn’t” her. They are random characters she made to project her relationship on and no white men allowed because white men are oppressors and bad.
Here’s where the screenshot of her reacting to the haters comments on the image>>1934895
“I got tired of never seeing love stories that reminded me of myself-so I made one for myself”
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female to jōmon era pottery
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does this idiot think they install inguinal canals along with the silicone balls or does Totally Valid Tiffany not understand how tucking works
Lmao it really is always the girliest girls ever who do this. All of this, but especially the first comic panel and the actually photo, is killing me.>>1934968
Early contender for next post image kek.>>1935146
I always find it very reassuring when I'm not on the side of the gendies/wokes that I'm probably on the sane side. They legitimately do make everything they get involved in worse. Normalise people shutting the fuck up about shit they don't understand, ffs.
Yeah, I remember people finding that threadpic legit hard to look at because it's so self-destructive. She does this cute little girl hand gestures, and twirls, tells her followers she loves them, and wants to go home to feed her 'babies' (cats).
There's truly no logic to why this woman would feel 'like a man' (or even 'manly'), imo it can only be that she's been convinced she must be one because she doesn't like being sexualised/mistreated for being a woman.>>1935482
Imo it tends to be more middle-class white girls, embarrassed by their 'privilege', but I think nonny
is probably right that cultural homophobia and strict gender roles plays a big part.
sage for blogpost but a lot of effeminate asian moids tend to be mentally unstable and manipulative as fuck
personally knew one and he used to larp as a tif to get closer to women or have them give him attention. I'm pretty sure tims larping as a tif to be "real girl" is a thing now too
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Found this one complaining that she was fired after working for an hour because she's trans. She says the manager told her it was because the paperwork doesn't match her birth certificate and HR was making transphobic comments on the phone. It seemed really fishy so I lurked and found exactly what you would expect. Two obese "trans men" both on hormones living in grandmas spare room. They have money for cigarettes and weed and testosterone but not enough money for food and "can't" get jobs because they want to larp as oppressed so they can stay lazy. Her girlfriend will only eat charcuterie boards and name brand foods so she's worried about her starving to death (but has fat reserves that will last months).