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This is a series of threads about fakebois and trans-identified females (TIFs).
"Fakebois" are girls who pretend to be boys, either by becoming trannies or larping biological males (usually the former). Fakebois style and present themselves as androgynous or feminine-looking boys, or wearing girls' clothing and make-up while insisting on being addressed with he/him (or occasionally they/them) pronouns and take great offense at being gendered as female.
These threads are also now a catch-all for any minor TIF cows without threads of their own. Even "serious" troons, (like Kalvin Garrah and Ellen Page) are fair game, as are horrific troon surgeries and pregnancies. Just remember to spoiler that shit.
**TIFs, no one cares if you think you're ~more legit~ than the cows posted here.** Additionally, occasional discussion of fujoshis is fine, but don't sperg and infight about it.
Notable FtM-related subreddits:https://www.reddit.com/r/FtM/https://www.reddit.com/r/FtM_irl/https://www.reddit.com/r/gaytransguyshttps://www.reddit.com/r/FTM_SELFIES/https://www.reddit.com/r/FTMfemininity/
Old threads by order of recency:>>>/snow/1794365>>>/snow/1742308>>>/snow/1718961>>>/snow/1698862>>>/snow/1675940>>>/snow/1642478>>>/snow/1611177>>>/snow/1585143>>>/snow/1565584>>>/snow/1541490>>>/snow/1509413>>>/snow/1474951>>>/snow/1432686>>>/snow/1400739>>>/snow/1366943>>>/snow/1338847>>>/snow/1303022>>>/snow/1251681>>>/snow/1208873>>>/snow/1137677>>>/snow/1095226>>>/snow/1032764>>>/snow/979294>>>/snow/895014>>>/snow/720444>>>/snow/570991>>>/snow/465430>>>/snow/276054>>>/snow/45564
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Both the thread pic and title are funny af. WHERE MANIFESTO!?
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sorry anon I'm fckuing rtadaded
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The police ate audrey's homework
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nobody expects sporty women to look like bodybuilding men, but even thin sporty women don't look like ana-chans. the ana-chan tinfoil wasn't even based on her body but her face in picrel. >it sounds like a bunch of people are surprised she didn’t fit a trope
personally i can find only three anons being surprised by her getting the title >>1798783
and one of them is surprised for this reason >>1799242
plenty of athletes are skinny or nerdy or whatever else, i don't think anyone isn't aware of that here. but when you're trying to build a picture of someone, sometimes things take you by surprise, when it deviates from a stereotype or whatever. nothing wrong with that in itself obviously. esp since this whole thread is based on the stupidity of stereotypes. >Maybe she has IBS?
I hope she suffered with really
really bad IBS
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picrel from audrey's linkedin. I never went to uni/college so I'm not sure… is this a normal amount of time to be to stay in school? 8 years at arts and crafts college seems a lot
right, i guess that makes sense. cos my second question was gonna be "how the fuck did her parents afford to keep her there that long?" but if it's part time then I guess it amounts to the same.
i think spending that much time in school, especially the same school, and then having to leave and be almost 30 must have been part of what broke her though. might have been the only thing giving her structure all those years. then she had a lot of time on her hands to plot, kill and ruin people's lives, I guess.
It could’ve been a pity superlative because of her autism. I don’t remember the popular kids at my school even caring about superlatives or yearbook shit at all.
Look at her nona, between her interests and how we’ve seen her interact with people.. I seriously doubt she was popular
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Holy fuck. This was an insane fixation. The part about her following the other girl to her car after the funeral to "hang out" and not grasping that she was supposed to act sad is extremely creepy. It seems like she did care about the girl who died though, due to her posts and drawings after her death, but must have been extremely autistic and doesn't process emotions the same way normal people do. This part (picrel) was also unsettling, it looks like she was obsessed with the team constantly through high school until her death at 28.
You show an autistic social outcast compassion once, and you're signed up for a lifetime of obsession. Like, what are you supposed to do? Be mean just so they don't attach to you? That feels cruel, but the outcome is so negative on your side and so positive on theirs, which makes for a very weird dynamic. I'm glad the autist who attached to me in middle school was not quite this intense.
what highschool did she go to? if it was some tiny christian school and she was a tomboy obsessed with basketball and sports, skating, etc not that surprising she could've gotten most athletic girl
she wasn't at some powerhouse public school that goes to states every year
read the article >>1799260
it was a small school that didn't even have it's own teams for many sports, meaning she had to join other school's teams. So your theory makes perfect sense.
The girls in the article say she was shy but nice and good teammate back then.
All the weird/creepy stuff is from more recently when she kept showing up uninvited or sending them things.
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she's listed as (3) on the 4x400 relay team that won the AA Tennessee state meet in in 2013
so I don't think she was one of the reserve runners but maybe she was
rare autistic person that is also athletic
the cops said in their vague statement that she had plans to kill family, a mall, and another school
but her mom also said that she talked to her when she left home that day so it doesn't really make sense
compare to elliot rodgers who killed his roommates first then left
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this might be her, I think that's the MLK uniform and this was the only white girl that ran in the relay for them
if not she was a reserve and didn't runhttps://files.catbox.moe/jbpzx6.mp4
give it a rest, will you? You sound like a hurt autist who's insecure all the people who were nice to you in school could have been pretending. It's a common phenomenon (at least it was in my schools) to be nice to spergs in your classes while also being unsettled by their behavior, it's just common decency and conflict avoidance. It's not shocking that people are talking about some of those weird behaviors after the fact, especially the victims
of her deranged stalking.
The girl clearly said that she contacted her via social media after high school, but it was innocuous enough. She really went off the rails in 2022. Possibly she grew tired of being ignored by her and crashed her birthday party. She also picked up a new hobby- guns.
No one's saying autism is a sole reason, but she clearly was fixated on some random people on her high school team and probably felt hurt and angry at them for ignoring her all these years.
I don't think her parents were controlling, I think they treated her like a child because of her autism. I see them letting her indulge in whatever she wanted, they were aware she had a gun (and mistakenly thought she sold it) and they let her live at home rent free, they bought her all her anime stuff and videogames. But giving your child every material thing they want and feeding them isn't enough if you aren't teaching them how to be a responsible adult. It really is a parent's job to teach their child how to survive, even if they have a disability, and they failed as parents there. Her autism wasn't even that bad that she wouldn't have been able to live on her own.
I think she went nuts after graduating college and losing the structure and routine school gave her. Not having anything to do, no friends, no job prospects, and isolation in her parents' house would drive anyone crazy. Maybe she was a bitter incel, and that hatred grew seeing her middle school friends live normal lives after college.
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The mentality difference between TIFs and TIMs is just so indicative of the gender they were born as. If the situation were reversed and this individual were a TIM, he wouldn’t be caught dead in a support sub for dads.
if that's true, it has to be a coincidence
i mean i don't know the details yet but how could she find those children distinctively among the classrooms and other kids. I just haven't heard yet that there was time or effort to deliberately target people
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we know she had maps, a plan and surveilled the school beforehand so I think she knew which part of the school (and possibly
which people, if she knew what class or staff rooms to look for) she wanted to target. even though the reports say she was planning to target other places, she still had plans drawn out for that particular school. if she just wanted to kill randomly she could have burst into the school and shot anyone on sight, but instead she plotted and trained at gun ranges for a long time before the attacks and seemed to be searching once she got inside the building.
my feeling is that it perhaps wasn't totally random and some of them were deliberately targeted
It's a tiny private Christian school with a student population of around 200 kids.
I guarantee that at least 1/3rd of the kids going there have some family member in the faculty or school board. That's just how those schools are.
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just speculating… in all the photos where she is posing for special occasions (family gatherings, graduation etc.) she is wearing these hair bows. I get the feeling her mum made her wear them, or bought them for her at least. Or maybe she just went through a phase of liking the ringlets + bow look. But i can just imagine the mum encouraging her to look more "ladylike" which might have played a part in her fucked up ideas about what being a woman means.
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She pulled the fire alarm to get more victims
. She didn't target anyone. She was sick and just wanted to kill little kids. https://www.thedailybeast.com/nashville-shooting-radiant-9-year-old-evelyn-dieckhaus-led-classmates-to-safety
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"Cis people don't typically wish they could be trans" People in general know they can wear a random piece of clothes not meant for them and still be their own sex, tucute.
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Do yourselves a favor and spare the KF thread, it's full of retarded OT scrote ramblings, larping and shit like picrel, Coomer moid shit.
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This tweet and pic reads like a cutesy ad aimed at kids. Comparing taking an unnatural amount of hormones to fashion.
>>1799260>Hale is now the third member of that team to die in the past eight months.
why are they trying to connect dots with this
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both are the NYPost lol. Says a lot about the troonism movement.
matt walsh has just piggy-backed off of all the research brought forward by women and now has become the fucking face of being gender critical. and straight up turned it into transphobia, mixed with sexism and homophobia.
it's sad that detransitioners have to rely on right-wing media or moid tranny-haters to amplify their stories but even when feminists and left-wing people create space for that to happen, they are "exiled" and called nazis. I do feel like the tide is starting to change though. I hope.
You get Jesse Singal and Glenn Greenwald (is he still sane?) >>1800015
The Matt Walsh thing is very unfortunate, every one of his mannerisms are skin-crawling and oily.
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sorry if this was already posted recently. a 25 year old woman named Prisha Mosley is detransitioning. her story is like a checklist of almost everything that makes a girl vulnerable to this trans ideology.
“I thought womanhood was unsafe before ever experiencing it. I was afraid of a life I hadn’t tasted yet.">difficult childhood>found solace online speaking to adults who groomed her into trans shit>diagnosed with ROGD at age 12>“I literally hated every aspect of who I was and what I was and what I looked like”>sexually assaulted at age 14>enjoyed the attention, compliments and "support" she got when transitioning>history of self harm and anorexia>mastectomy on her 18th birthday>now has detransitioned but lives with vaginal atrophy and vocal cord pain https://nypost.com/2023/03/15/why-teen-girl-who-became-a-trans-man-is-now-a-woman-again/
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i don't love jack krauser or anything, but trannies are so fucking funny thinking they could ever look like him.
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the delusion to not only draw it but mod it in yourself
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Tif art is so viscerally disturbing. It’s like looking at those paintings by schizophrenics.
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And most of the time they have nipples or are fully healed or isn't too noticeable, yet they still draw female body with wide shoulders and narrow hips like… a man?
I swear these people have too glorified it that do not even think how it is in the case of breast cancer. Women lose everything, cannot feel nothing in the chest and they feel they lost something big for an illness.
(I know is not the same, but knowing that due covid pandemic some trannies whined that cancer patients had priority over their surgeries, I do think tif see a sad woman with no breasts and think "God I wish that were me").
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I've seen pics of newer TIFs that got "keyhole" surgery for breast removal and looks really good in terms of scarring.
Silver lining if it can be offered to breast cancer patients.
Sage for blog but I have c/d cup and I remember when a yaoi fan called a female character from an anime we both loved a "slut" because… She has big breasts, like me. Yet she was strong and she didn't no one touch her without her permission and even beat any man that dared to hug her. Why was she "slut" because she loved to show cleavage, that's something still haunts me.
So I'm not surprised when yaoi fans want to be twinks with flat chest because having breast is "slutty" or "too feminine", when you can be androgyny with breast (see Shirley Manson).
Kek in my language there are no gender-neutral pronouns and all words are gendered so local enbie girls just use the male-gendered ones and lose their shit when you point out how they are "problematic
" for insisting that the male should stay the default.
I have to admit that surgeon did an amazing job. Sadly is one in one hundred.>>1800298
Spanish is based as fuck too, but people are whining that we should use "e" for a gender neutral when there are words with e that ARE gender neutral (estudiante, dibujante, jefe, conserje, etc).
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Each time I see pic related cannot understand how TIFs can see it and think "that won't be my case". Girl, surgeries are dangerous as Hell in the wrong hands. For every good photo, there are tons of failures.
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Heh, love how quickly they backtraced.
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>women aren’t people
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A Fujoshi mutual of mine trooned out.
Yeah idgi. Molested by men and so kill adult men? Sure. Blast the pickme female admins or teachers who probably admonished her and shamed her? Why not.
But she shot children. Little girls who faced the same vulnerabilities she did. She is a monster. And no tragic cool fucking backstory can redeem her for that.
"Childlike obsession with being a child"
More like a disgusting pedophile's obsession with children. Victims
of childhood abuse stop being owed even an iota of sympathy the second they THEMSELVES START VICTIMIZING CHILDREN
I'm getting sick of autists being given free passes. Bring back asylums.
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I posted the wrong image but here's Twitter radfems pranking tifs on spaces. I'll post the videos next.(racebaiting)
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kek as long as you cloak racism, sexism and homophobia in woke language, then it's 100
and solidarity fist
>>1800327>the mere presence of breasts makes someone a slut
It has to be this, doesn't it? Maybe this is the end result of our porn saturated internet (which disgusting conservative men crying about tit-chops are also responsible for)
The constant sexualization of a body part you can't hide with clothing. The constant shame of seeing breasts that are too big on you (when you're not a slut!) sagging, misshapen, "useless bags of fat" that cause perverted men to treat you like shit. Society has given girls and women an easy medical solution, no critical thinking required. This might be the most misogynist modern era, I hope the tide changes soon because it's suffocating.
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I think you should see picrel
It doesn't take a masters degree in psychology to figure out why a (alleged) female csa victim
would have trouble getting over her childhood and unable to dress and act like an adult
You clearly have never experienced dysphoria in your life. Which is a good thing, but outside of enbies this is blatantly fucking untrue kek
Imagine waking up, and seeing a woman's body and hearing a woman's voice when all your memories have a man's body and man's voice. The terror is something nobody should experience.
Honestly, trooning out should be the very last resort, if allowed at all, but at least try to understand the mental disorder and don't pin it all on the opposite sex. I get that we're all terfy but there's a point where it comes off borderline scrotish.
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spoiler for furry shit. but has this been shared here yet? some people are adamant this was Audrey's account but i am skeptical. first, that she would use her full name (albeit her TIF name) and second, it doesn't fit with the rest of her art-style.
archive here: https://archive.is/mhjjC
>>1800454>at least try to understand the mental disorder and don't pin it all on the opposite sex
A mental disorder that appeared in the past 15 years. Just like anorexia, sexist media created by men and male sexual perversion is the cause of this disorder. Not "pinning" anything, this is the truth.
>Imagine waking up, and seeing a woman's body and hearing a woman's voice when all your memories have a man's body and man's voice.
You're speaking nonsense.
It's moreso hyperbole than anything, but dysphoria can first be spotted at puberty and properly diagnosed only after it's done. I'm extremely tired and probably making 0 sense, but it's like your head was transplanted to another body, and you have no recollection of that, or your voice, and every time you get called your legal name or referred to by your sex, it's confusing at best.
Not condoning trooning out or trying to derail, but in most cases misogyny has nothing to do with it, and in the cases it does they're usually enbies, not fakebois, and never trutrans.
But to wrap this shit back, we need a containment thread or ban on the shooting. It feels like Kiwi scrotes are half the posters and tinfoils are annoying, honestly.
>>1800466>sounds like an episode of psychosis
i thought the same thing. if someone is having memories of things that never happened then gender should be the the least of their concerns. >>1800462>dysphoria can first be spotted at puberty
dysphoria is usually described as not feeling comfortable in one's body. like their identity doesn't match what they see in the mirror. it's extremely common among those going through puberty (in fact almost all women I know have described this), and particularly common among people who are autistic/adhd/ocd and has a huge overlap with anorexia. if you're at the point where you don't recognise your name or memories, then that sounds like a seriously mental health issue. the treatment of which does not involve hormones or surgery.
My source is personal experience. I didn't troon out, but I feel like if I felt this exact way, of worsening intensity for over 10 years and had a GID diagnosis for 3, and tested negative for schizophrenia on multiple occasions, it was relevant. I also have Autism and OCD on top, diagnosed for 12 years, so I have no doubt they both make the symptoms more severe.
I was just trying to shine some light on how it feels, I did not mean to start a fight nor did I mean to derail, I merely saw an incorrect detail and tried to correct it. I apologize(no1curr)
Ok, but have you ever thought that our sources are also personal experiences besides all the stuff posted here, and you go telling us we're scrotish for knowing that the exact cause of our wanting to troon out are the men? Porn is made by men, for men, and it sexualizes us, imagine growing up to that? I mean, you don't have to, right, you probably experienced it. Every boy you meet at school will probably have watched porn already and he will sexualize your growing body, of course girls will be uncomfortable with that and just try opt out of womanhood because we don't "identify" with that crap pushed onto us, and want to be seen as human, then you have the trans community basically reinforcing gender stereotypes "girl pink, spinny skirts, long hair, makeup teehee so bimbo", they make woman to be a set of impossible expectations and harmful stereotypes and man to be human, with emotions and varying interests. So you feel uncomfortable with your shape, your growing breasts, all the expectations, then the path is clear "I am not a woman after all."
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So it begins.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
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Same image then.
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she left out the fact that she was/is an autistic Fujo who shipped kpop boyband members.
>>1800462>in most cases misogyny has nothing to do with it
This is just blatantly untrue. If anything, the dysphoria you're describing is extremely rare, even among troons. When you really boil it down and listen to their reasoning as to why they trooned out or how they first knew they were trans, nearly all of them fall into a few camps - all of those motivated by misogyny or homophobia (which you could argue is fueled by misogyny in and of itself).
1. Growing up in a very religious/traditional environment where homosexuality is unacceptable so they troon out in a misguided attempt to escape this and better fit into societal norms.
2. Fetishism - this is much more common among TIMs
3. Very young ones being influenced by social contagion and treating like a new fun trend.
4. They will never outright say it, but it's so clear that many, and I'd even say most, TIFs transition to escape the social role of women. Upon reaching puberty, you're suddenly thrust into this whole new world where you cease to become a full person. It feels like yesterday you were just a normal little kid, but now adults (mostly moids) are being weird about your body and heavily sexualizing you. You get your period and realize you're stuck with this shitty painful thing that makes you "unclean" in the eyes of many for the next few decades. It also introduces the risk, and fear, of pregnancy. It was so common in middle school for my friends and I to describe having a nightmare where we suddenly wake up pregnant. Your friends start entering relationships and you're now old enough to recognize the fucked up dynamics at play in relationships between girls and boys and women and men. You're taught that hetero sex is often dangerous, degrading, and inevitable. You're shamed for doing it and not doing it. The boys around you act like complete menaces and face little to no consequences for it. So do the adult men. And a bunch of your female friends, and even female adults, will more readily side with them over you. Puberty is not fun for anyone, but it's straight up traumatic for little girls. I believe that is the biggest motivator for the surge in teen girls transitioning, not their brain wires getting crossed and making them desperately want a dick. They'd only want a dick anyway because it would mean no longer having a vagina and therefore being much less vulnerable to sexual violence.
nta but anon never said or implied that and I feel like this thread is currently being overrun with trutranses trying to convince users that hating yourself and by extention hating all women and wanting as little do with them as possible because you think they're inheritely shameful and slutty is a valid
mental illness. If your mental illness causes you to become a misogynist so rabid that you cut your healthy tits off then you are not owed sympathy by any woman here
If anon is who I think (all descriptions match) she's a cow who's deeply terrified of grass, ironically. >>1778636
I'd argue she's a very rare case of genuine mental illness, not trying to "escape misogyny" if so. She's got like 6 fucking mental disorders and a good chunk of them significantly reduce QoL (BED, MDD, CIAD [GAD but exasperated by caffeine addiction], OCD, and GID. Everything but Autism)
I'm kinda shocked she was only posted in the Vocaloid thread and not in any of the previous TIF thread before getting one of her own, especially with her track record of threatening to rape & murder radblr bloggers.
>>1800557>>1800558>hating all women and wanting as little to do with them as possible because you think they're inheritely shameful and slutty is a valid mental illness
being dysphoric doesn't automatically make you a misogynist, neither does it mean you've medically transitioned. they may not be as common, but there are causes for gender dysphoria that don't stem from misogyny.>they don't have real problems to worry about
are mental disorders not something to worry about?? this is no different from saying that rich people can't possibly suffer from depression since they're privileged. they are called illnesses for a reason; it's not something you can control. anyone can have them.
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I gotta hand it to troons. they are organised. our national health service in the UK is in absolute tatters. there are people currently on waiting lists for chemo, surgery and other treatment of life-threatening diseases but there are zero demonstrations or protests. TIFs have to wait a year to think about whether they want to fuck up their lives forever and they're straight out onto the streets complaining about it. if only they could be this up in arms about the more important things.
they want nonas to bow down and be like yes tifchan you are the one true trans you are the only valid
sounds terrible, better kill a bunch of kids then neck yourself
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Audrey and her basketball team
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Or maybe she just happened to be a sperg that didn't want to die alone in her bedroom so she decided to kill others as a way to cope with her loneliness. She gives off Olga Hepnarova vibes to be honest.
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This account is so annoying and is obviously a fujoshi/TIF larping as a gay man to try to give her opinions validity. They never post selfies and literally no gay man talks about BL and "protecting trans men" and "being a fujoshi ally" 24/7
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What TIF category does this one fit in? not the usual Fujotroon IF but not a lesbian AAP either. she seems to be a rare TIF that wants a masculine bf and tries her best to be the masculine as well/
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Olga Hepnarova at least sent her edgelord manifesto to newspapers instead of leaving us hanging.
I think Hale's manifesto is probably similar in content.
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No, they should stay. The more they are exposed to 'wrongthink', the more doubts they'll have. It would be cruel to deny them enlightenment.
TIFs are not like TIMS anon, they are victims
and this is the best place for them to question their identity and become peaked.
I'd rather have a hundred TIFs questioning their identity and sperging about gender dysphoria here than a million TIMs spamming cp and gore while invading women and lesbian only spaces online. TIFs are women and are victims
of patriarchy no matter what misogynistic moid larp they spin. Denying them this reality is misogyny.
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as always, these parasitic cockroaches appropriate the language of actually oppressed groups
I don't understand people like you. Tifs hate women. They hate themselves because they think being a woman is disgusting and shameful. They think any woman is totally okay with being abused and raped and that we enjoy and invite it. They resent you for being a woman. Tifs are nothing but incredibly cold and cruelly apathetic to other women. They think that if we didn't like misogyny, we would just transition like them. They hate you, they think you're a disgusting whore, they think you're dumb as fuck, they think you enjoy being reduced to being a fuckhole and they are absolutely and collectively convinced that they are better than you on every single level there is.
The "tifs are victims
" narrative is completely outdated by now. Most tifs transition because they can't stand to be in the same category as you and they'd rather massacre their bodies than he like you. Please open your eyes nonnie
Adding also they don't want nothing to do with women's body problems, but they ask to health orgs to recognize menstruation or breast cancer or pregnancy as "MEN/ENBY ISSUES" when they know quite right that men cannot menstruate or get pregnant outside of their mpreg shit (they can get breast cancer, thought). And even if you mention that women cannot menstruate, they will insist "yeah, but is not the same for US".
Is the new "not like other girls" but to the extreme.
Black Joy to Trans Joy
Black Lives Matter to Trans Lives Matter
Women's Rights are Human Rights to Trans Rights are Human Rights
AIDs Die-In to Trans Die-In
Jewish genocide to Trans genocide
Trans invasion on the gay rainbow flag, obviously
Just their theft off the top of my head, I'm sure there's more.
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>34 (yes really)
Yeah that’s not very hard to notice
World menstruation day must include tif, enbis and tims.
Women's day must include trans people (ironically, men's day (Nov 19th) is not even mentioned so Trans people do not say shit about it).
No such thing as a troon, TIF or otherwise, who is not a lost cause. Don't try to convince them to detransition because they'll try to silence you in any way they can, namely deplatforming and life ruination.
The ones who detransition are very rare and you're best off cutting the TIFs out and assuming all of them will never change.
Tifs aren't victims
, but some of the most dangerous pickmes out there who jump for joy at the thought of harming more young women, thats the only moidlike thing about them in fact. Audrey was just an autist who could not process these ideas symbolically and brought them to real life, but in the heart of every tif there is the desire to harm (young & vulnerable) women. We should act according, the tifs reading this can peak in silence and stop vomiting their virulent (born of self-hate, yeah, but still virulent) misogyny on this site.
TIF's are like the fuckers in history that let the door or the gate open for invading forces and got everyone killed. Victims
Go outside and touch some grass.>>1800788
This is Justin wrong on many levels. First of all who cares if they continue being hairy women after detransitoning. A very lookist take.
Also many tifs are able to detrans succesfully it just takes time until their body goes back to normal.
GirlsLikeUs was originally for Black women, SayHerName was originally for Native American and Black women who were victims
of violence or femicide. It’s insane how nearly everything has been co-opted by them. I’m seeing TransExcellence being used and TransGirlMagic was popular for a while (right off the backs of Black women, again)
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LOL HOLY SHIT
didn't expect my personal cow to pop up here; papdiaries is actually the latest in a multi-year series of sockpuppet/fake accounts created by the same person. you can always tell it's them because of the disturbing storyline consistency (yes, there's actual fucking lore here) between accounts/similar and very specific themes (among them being TIF moms with multiple autist children + an autist husband, extended breastfeeding, having kids extremely young, and other very weird shit).
if any of you are interested i can dig up my schizo documentation i've compiled + clean it up to make it actually readable, this is an insane rabbithole and i've been dying to tell people about it. picrel, it's from one of the past accounts this person made.
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crazy. shes like totally a normal girl in those pics
Preemptive apologies for the denseness, I tried to condense it but this is already pretty truncated as is. anyways, tldr of the doc is that this is about the previous account/saga before papadiaries; you can tell it's the same person though due to the typing style + narrative thread reoccurrence (ex. papadiaries's husband + MIL are also mexijewish and from cali, most likely being related to the same character(s) from the solid_ad and teenparentvent accounts; like i said, this shit has lore!!!!!). plus, papadiaries was made the exact same day as teenparentvent's last post, feb 16th 2023.
there's at least three more accounts other than the one's i've touched on, btw, but getting into their weird fucked up storylines would require another 36 pages.
She/they is somewhere in between giga normie straight girls and ultra autistic they/them enbies and fakebois who are full-on troons and want to chop their tits off.
Kinda like just a girl wearing comfortable clothes and probably a short hairstyle.
that was a great read, thank you.
I actually remember seeing some of her posts on reddit before and thinking how insane and far fetched it was lol
No one gives a fuck nonnie
. This isn't daycare. This isn't "lets be nice so the bitches that threatened to murders us might detroon". We're not their fucking mothers. Most of them are complete cunts and make other women's lives exponentially worse. And a lot of them look fucked up after taking testosterone. Let's not pretend it's all fucking rainbows and fuzzy feelings like they do on troon boards.
You're one of these morons who think that shooter is a victim
. Even when a lot of shit happens to you at the end of the day there is still a limit of the bullshit you can get away with before your moral compass should take over. Some TIFs a vulnerable kids sure, but that shit ends when they show up at let women speak events with signs like "decapitate terfs" and try to get women fired.
can obviously also be bad people. autistic women disproportionately face sexual violence so there was a real chance, even if not a victim
of CSA, a man did something else to her at one point. what she did is still evil annd premeditated, but look at her art, she is clearly so mentally unwell and probably at a far lower maturity level due to autism.
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I mean look up people like James Hampton or early scientists in fields that weren't even invented yet, they were most likely autistic but they could function well enough in society in their own way, now their stuck in home all day and obsessing over sonic and frying their brain with hentai and yaoi
I think sports team environments are great for that because you're there to do one thing only, the conversation topic is set, everyone is likely to be excited and getting "in the zone" for the game. everyone has a role and reason to be there. there is little ambiguity in that kind of setting, which helps make things less awkward. plus, for Audrey, basketball seemed to be one of her special interests so it doesn't surprise me to see her looking more relaxed and happy in these pictures.
she should have just stuck to shooting hoops and not innocent people.
Some of you handwringing anons don't seem to realize that young and vulnerable tifs desire to "escape misogyny" comes from hatred and disgust for other women. Some of you are just not making the connection that these tifs think YOU as a woman are a complete dumbass for not transitioning and therefor consenting to and inviting to your abuse. And guess what, most of us aren't very sympathetic to anachans who pathologically tear down other women either. If you see someone here who defends fatspo collectors they're probably one themselves.
The whole grooming and cult victim
narrative only goes that far. You can call little girls or boys getting cut up by their own parents for attention victims
. But even teenagers will tell you they envy males and dislike women, are disgusted by women, think gonzo porn is their inevitable reality once they become older. And that's their motivation for transitioning. If you can't see the blatant hatred and misogyny in this then I don't know what else to tell you. Look at tif spaces and come to your own conclusion on the misogyny present. They hoot and holler each time a notable eceleb woman gets publicly torn down, they have complete apathy to women's pain. It doesn't take a lot to recognize and see this.
They think a pronoun change makes them completely exempt from any and all misogyny, and you as a woman are the retard for not changing your pronouns as well and thus making yourself exempt too
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This woman is 28 years old and has a husband . I swear she’s not seeing how fucked up this actually is.
This is such a common and typical teen girl mindset. Every insecure average tomboyish teen girl has thought they would make an above average cute boy. They think they are "better" at being a cute boy than real boys and that gives them confidence. They're trying to cope and bargin with the social hierarchy and make themselves out to be higher on it.
You see the same mindset with other insecurities like how insecure fat girls think they're "hotter" than the skinny girls because they have bigger boobs due to being fatter.
The funny thing is none of them actually make cute boys. They all just end up looking like pudgy manlets at best.
Other anons already explained this to you, but i'm going to add another point: because it's a social contagion we should cut all tifs from the start. You don't let a pathogen grow under the faint hope that it will get better. Shutting down tifs and their memetic misoginy is not only the right thing, but the only thing to do to prevent more victims
. Think about it like Jehovah's Witnesses, yes they're persons (whatever) but you don't open your door to them because they will try to indoctrinate you and your people, because thats all they can do. With the addition that trannies are lot more quickly destructive than JW's. ROGD can develop in a few weeks and ruin lives forever, is no small thing.
"But they're mentally unwell" ok, that means literally nothing. A lot of JW's are ex-addicts and obviously mentally unsound too. still, you don't open your door to them, because they're memetic agents of their (destructive) ideology
, trannies are literally the same.
Anas can go fuck themselves too, for fuck sake they're routinely banned here when they step down their containment threads. No one cares about anas nonsense and the overall consensus in this site and pretty much everywhere is that they should keep their vile antisocial shit to themselves. In fact there is a large subgroup of "self aware anas" who keep the proanas in check. Most anas know they have to drop the proana shit if they want to talk to a normal person and exist in normal spaces. As long as tifs don't have an equivalent to that, they have no room to speak. At all.
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anyone seen or listened to this yet? pro-trans podcast ran by TransLash media just did an interview with a detransitioner about the de transition movement. it’s not a good look
so true. and for the people who trooned out for attention (whether it's narcissism or a result of abuse/neglect etc.) they might notice how popular transgederism has become and not feel special enough anymore so detransitioning could become the next way for them to get people's attention and admiration. and then retransitioning
again, and so on. ideally, like you say, detransitioning would involve more emotional support through the process, less politicising and focusing on ways for them to develop better critical thinking skills before they jump into the next cult.
lmao fun fact about that, the account she used prior to solid (mamaaandbabyhelp, the character then was a 14 year old lesbian who had a baby at 12 and who was also ambiguously brown and whose entire family was autistic) was a FREQUENT commentator in the Supernatural subreddit. Said account also has a “sequel” now, jackandbabe, that is currently active around the same hours as papadiaries despite allegedly being in the UK.
The Dean and Misha names also popped up in (what I believe was) her oldest account, aitathrowawffee; back then she was a TIF mother of two married to an abusive
lesbian spouse who liked to tell her two autistic kids about her self harm scars.>>1800959
if you’re interested in hearing about that sort of chaos you’re in luck! iirc both papadiaries and solid_ad (though you’ll have to search the other’s posts via camas) were/are fond of submitting posts to breakingmom regarding their absolute shitshow lives and how everything around them is crumbling and they ~just want to cry~. but don’t you dare suggest that maybe deciding to have 7+ autistic children was a bad choice, you heckin ableist shitlord
also thank you to everyone who’s enjoyed my schizoposting!! i wasn’t sure it’d land but seeing ya’ll enjoy it warms my cold dead evil transphobe heart <3
>>1800407>my gender is dildo and my pronoun is nig
And they all took it seriously lmfao, even one of them saying don't worry I'm sure there are white people who'll call you "nig" cos they'll understand black struggles>>1800489>a lot of our team hadn't played sports since school
Yet they were put on the team? Bet you weren't so joyful when you were thrashed on the pitch but ig all that matters is omg we're all twans
A bunch of loons invaded the Nashville capitol and held up 7 fingers counting the TIF as a victim
. Trans day of vengeance was cancelled in Washington but a bunch of antifa nutjobs held up Hollywood Boulevard for 3 hours and harassed several people
As long as society exists women will keep on altering their body to be accepted by society.
Whether that be becoming a tif and getting your breath reduced/removed.
And whether you be a normal woman getting fillers, lasers,plastic surgery, bigger boobs, ass injections, skincare , haircare , extensions, rhinoplasty, photoshop,skimpy clothing, hyperfeminine clothing, feet destroying high heels, waxing or shaving every week , plucking any facial hair, dieting, or reverse-dieting by forcing yourself to ingest more calories , skin bleaching , tanning , contact lenses , luxury bag collecting, V-shape jawline surgery etc etc.
Even if the focus changes, conservative retards and the likes don't consider women capable of critical thinking so they'll blame trannies, the orgs, and everything else involved. TIFs are always going to be poor and confused girls in their eyes that are easily manipulated and they'll never see the irony of that.>>1801256
It's the most hilarious shit whenever anons ITT talk about (internalized) misogyny. What site do they think they're on? It's much easier to change yourself than to change the world and considering the current state of things it's not going to get better any time soon. Women are still going to be valued for their looks mostly and both men and women enforce that status quo. All the talks about promoting women and feminist values is fine and dandy but reality paints an entirely different picture. Any GNC woman can attest to that.
Anon I'm sorry to tell you but this has existed since the times of when humans were cavemen or in tribes.
This is not a new thing.
Women in african tribes since many many years ago have been doing dangerous beauty procedure to attract men.
Women in the middle ages were also destroying their organs with tight corsets.
It's a innate human biological thing.
To stop women from doing that is to change biology and to suffer bullying and ostracazition from others. It's so easy to talk shut on the internet but in real life things are different and most women succumb to misogyny or toxic
intra-sexual competivness with other women.
I'm not not a tif you moron.
Also you sound like a seething tradthot, aww did you have one the surgeries I mentioned, does it hurt for your implants to be compared to what tifs do to their bodies.
You are beyond brain dead if you think someone like a Kardashian would be more feminist than a tif. They are on the same level.
These are actually very dangerous and leave many women botched.
Nice to know the wannabe instathots trad women are coming out of the woodwork.>>1801276
Anons are right when they say most anonymous here are tradthots. They don't actually care about feminism. They're just mad that the tif is a "ugly Hairy disgusting monster" instead of a plastic bimbo who still looks 50.
Yeah so much better…like pimping out all their daughters when they are still underage to sell sex-appeal, that only their looks matter , to get extreme copious amounts of plastic surgery the moment they become legal, to live a vapid life. To motivate other women that they also can become famous by doing porn or being naked in a playboy magazine. By letting your sister/daughter date creepy old men.
So much better for children.
Also for some of the things you mentioned tifs don't even care about, your getting your terms mixed up with mtfs.>>1801290
There is not a bigger hatred than getting plastic surgeries to make your body look more pretty for scrotes.
And women have been subjugated in all of these societies, I'm well aware misogyny is incredibly old, but I believe if women have pushed as far as we have, we can push further. Humans will always value attractiveness but this is variance to the degree that women and men compared to each other are pressured to take artificial measures to look good. What are the supposed reasons that women biologically must be the sex to take extreme measures of beauty? Men want to have sex with women regardless. In countries where women have more freedoms outside of men, more and more are choosing to not be associated with them. Men have subjugated women and forced us to rely on them for resources, but when women have our own resources, we have the ability to exercise choice in partner. Certainly our biology is what has made us vulnerable to this subjugation, but I have no clue why you think it impossible to advance further given where we have come, women in the middle ages likely never thought our current status to be possible. I'm not sure what purpose your argument even has, "it's all pointless", thanks very helpful>>1801285>thinks "women are not biologically inclined to mutilate themselves" is a trad take
it may not be saline, but something is in your brain that shouldn't be there
Don't get me wrong, I do believe changes are possible. I just don't think women want to deal with the bullying and loss of opportunities they receive if they go against that.
Do you know how different I get treated on days I look good and on days I look bad, it's such a huge difference.
Do you think it's beneficial to a male mantis to let himself get eaten alive by the female mantis….
No it's not. But that's how biology is like, it's brutal, wrong and doesn't care about morality. Because if it did then the majority of men wouldn't be pedos and neither would they be closeted homos with a g-spot in their prostate.
She wasn’t hating on the female body, kek. She was hating on the saline that people, often women, choose to put in their bodies due to societal preassure. You’re an idiot, nonnie
. All of it is bad, including TIF surgeries. Women need to stop changing their bodies in hopes of being accepted by society. That’s common feminist talking points, so of course you reek of tradthottery.
As for the contact lenses, I assumed she meant how brown eyed people will wear blue eyed contacts etc. not so they can fucking see you dim wit
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I don’t understand this logic at all.
I certainly don't have any delusions about being able to change the status quo quickly, I agree that women currently have it very difficult attempting to go against the status quo. I take issue with the idea that women have some inherent biological imperative to be the sex taking extreme measures to look beautiful. Men have taken advantage of us through our biology and oppressed us for thousands of years, and one of our currently remaining shackles is that of beauty. If other shackles have been removed in parts of the world with time and effort, this one can too. I don't get the utility or logic behind trying to argue that Things Will Always Be Like This>>1801315
exactly, useless defeatism in the thread
There is a overpopulation problem. Men and women nagging other women to feel ugly and always try to be the most beautiful and perfect does benefit men in mating strategies because it allows them access to women because those women think they are just as ugly as whatever men that want to impregnate her.
That's why when you look at so many couples the women tends to be the better looking one and in rare cases where the man is hotter then the woman gets bullied by men and other women for daring to date a attractive guy when is "ugly".
>>1801313>All of it is bad, including TIF surgeries.
Nah, TiF surgeries are worse because of the anti-female death cult ideology its attached to, and having the passing thought that wearing colored contacts would even be comparable is retarded.
Anon wanted to paint TiF surgeries as equivalent to any other self-hating plastic surgery and beauty practices women go through which is not true. TiF mutilation is closest to anorexia, if we're comparing.
true and based but also I care 100x more about women than the continuity of the species and I think all the women in Korea not having kids and saying a sexist society deserves to collapse are mega based>>1801325
You're right, I can't tell whether its real or an artificial meatsock but this thread smells like unwashed penis
You sure seem hyporfocused on the colored contacts. This is like your third time mentioning that. Colored contacts was one of the many other things I mentioned in my example, not the only thing.
Do you know what a procedure is? Do you know how a procedure looks like? There are many health risks. Boob jobs have been shown to give women health issues and many women die from having a bbl.
You trying to paint plastic surgery as better is….weird.
They’re equally as bad, but I’d say that making breasts or butts bigger to the point of willing to risk your life like a BBL entails, is much worse. It’s rare for a woman to die from a masectomy she gets regardless of the reasons, compared to what? 40% of women dying from BBLs, yet they’re still not banned?
What health benefit even comes from having a man jam a needle into your ass fat to shape it as HE sees desirable? It’s repulsive and much worse than a woman who removes her breasts for any reason- though you’re right, none of these things are healthy or sane to do.
Daily reminder that a anon here literally posted a picture of a old woman that had a mastectomy after having cancer and said how disgusting that was and gave it as a example of tifs with "bad tit chops" which is offensive on so many levels.
Tells you all you need to know. Yes this place is filled with tradthots who think women disfiguring themselves is okay as long as they are doing that to be sexy for men. Remember if you do dangerous procedure it's okay as long as you identify as a woman
I agree, I get defensive about it though because I have felt preassure to get a boob job after transitioning, while I detransitioned, and I find that it isn’t the right answer either. I wouldn’t be able to breastfeed either, but nor would a woman who only ever got implants.
I have more of an issue with the ideologies that lead us to change our bodies, regardless of what it is. I think there’s a very real issue of detransitioners not learning these lessons though. I appreciate your answer, it was very kind, though I didn’t expect that either.>>1801367
Pretty sure it was in the last two threads, I saw what nonnie
was talking about the other day.
At least I didn’t encourage a pornified view of women like the ones who risk their lives to get a bigger ass do, all because they saw the Kardashians do it. I have very little sympathy for OSA women, and the surgeries they get to further sexualize their existences for men all at the expense of other women who refuse to edit their bodies either which way.
I may have been the other side of the same coin, but I have clarity unlike the trads in this thread.
you must be a coping tid bc these bitches dont deserve sympathy when they literally hate other women and think they are above us and actively work to undermine our rights and safety. There is plenty of evidence that this shit doesnt work but these deluded shitbrains actively ignore it in the pursuit of becoming the ultimate nlog and living out their yaoi fantasy at the expense of everyone else. Literally read the threads
I’m a detrans woman. Maybe the reason why I struggle to have sympathy for women who parade as bimbos and celebrate plastic surgery are as immoral as TIMs are because they… do the same thing? TIMs are more insidious, but the amount of women who asked me when I’d be fixing my chest have blackpilled me. I’m here to laugh at fujoshis and deluded women, but it’s funny whenever a trad woman acts like she’s better when she’s just as toxic
as the TIMs I’ve known. Does it hurt your feelings to know that some women just don’t give a crap about women who mutilate their bodies for the male gaze?
>>1801245>>1801252>I feel like the tide of focus is now being directed from mtf to ftm
You're both stupid. Whether your pro-trans, anit-trans, left wing, right wing your focus will always be on MtFs/TiMs. The public will always be more aware of TiMs. How many normies remember that Cher and Sonny Bono's daughter Chastity became a man named Chaz in 2010? Those same normies, however, know Bruce Jenner is now Caitlyn Jenner. How many normies know who Elliot Paige is?
>obsessing about young girls breasts being removed
Allison Bailey, one of the founders of the LGB Alliance, voiced this concern. She was called a pedophile by TRAs. It is a concern as Bailey put it, these girls will have a double mastectomy before they experience intimacy. Same with adolescent TiMs like Jazz Jennings and Kim Petras who get GRS before ever experiencing a orgasm.
yes, men watching hardcore porn from the day they turn 11 and women trying to look like filtered anime characters is a new thing. people wanting to look well groomed is not comparable to cosmetic surgeries being pushed on teenagers, some of which starve themselves or troon out to escape beauty standards. civilization will not collapse tomorrow if women refuse to let things get even worse. men are actually able to coom to women as they are if they don't fry their brains on porn and tiktok filters. also the appeal to nature is kinda retarded, we can justify literally any behavior just by saying "humans have always done X, surely it's natural and we have to accept it". plus some of the most extreme past beauty rituals that have been cited previously were only for the highest classes of society, not for (almost) all women like it is right now.>>1801349
Anon said perpetuation of the species, not the best genetically fit children. Likewise I hate this argument because
1.) Usually the most "genetically fit" in darwinist terms males are just the strongest males most able to beat up other males and it also means they are able to rape or monopolize the most women before getting killed
2.) This assumes that everyone not capable of reproducing at the moment is worthless and supposed to be killed off which means nearly all women over the age of 45 are also worthless and deserve to die
3.) In eugenics (basically what you're talking about), it's not only the genetic runt males that shouldn't breed but also the genetic runt females. Bad genetics don't only apply to males
You're reaching to relieve your guilt en you still have some serious misogyny ingrained in you nonnie
. You are dismissing other women now no longer as terfs but as "trads" and "bimbos" now. You are delusional if you think skinwalking TIMs, destroying women's rights and getting off on making women uncomfortable, aren't way more toxic
then some desperate women chasing beauty and immortality
What's wrong with OPs assertion many pickme trad thots botch themselves, why make a bizarre distinction that doesn't exist?. Some of the most prolific misogynist trad thots are botched e.g Lauren Southern.>>1801331>>1801305>>1801408>>1801290>>1801273>>1801296>>1801297>>1801330
This thread is an absolute misogynistic dumpster fire of shitting on women, catty unsaged infighting, supporting retarded MGTOW "sexual market" shit aka women are catty and compete against each other for plastic surgery attracted moids, misogynistic libfem and retarded pickme appeals to nature about tit implants, defending moids coomerism with epic science and logic or evolutionary biology according to moid logic, and shitting on autistics including accusations that everyone and their uncle is autistic because xyz. One has to ask if you are spewing low emotional intelligence shit about other women as cruel as a moid maybe you're on the spectrum too. Unlike retarded 4chan, KF moids I see nothing gained from bashing female autistics. Women are already shit on from all sides, why add to the pile like an average moid? This thread is full of misogynyistic retards concealing their misogyny under the guise of hating trannies, in the case of the one retard arguing all women are catty stupid bimbos that compete to have the biggest surgically inflated ass as the nature female competition I can only kek. Hales manifesto can not come any sooner. Also the retard complaining about women removing their breasts over germ line caused mutant forms of breast cancer needs to eat a cactus. Though I think this entire thread should be nuked, fuck it, it's already a complete mess who cares at this point?>>1801493
I'm not advocating for eugenics, I'm arguing that allowing males to breed indefinitely is not "evolutionary superior", which is quite obvious as it's retarded. You are a retard if you assume that females of species cease being valuable after menopause. Regardless of what moid copes will tell you females are always more valuable than males because they do not murder each other commonly in humans. Reproductive fitness doesn't apply to females, in fact most mammals do not undergo menopause, humans are an outlier in that they've adapted menopause purposefully, yes it was selected for how's that work against your perpetuating the species rape ape logic? Menopause was purposefully selected for and modern humans adapted a valuable system of child rearing so that older females are always fulfilling a valuable role. Females are always more valuable than the males of a species because they are capable of all things that males can do in a civilized world with technology and knowledge without raping, murdering and mass killing each other. The perpetuation of a species is not the barometer it's success, it is for a bacterium but not for the human race. Only the pathetic runt of the litter would tell you this, though I'm sure applying the logic of rape apes applies to a highly intelligent species like the human race, rape ape defending classical genetics anon. This is the most retarded eugenics moid shit I've read insofar. It's literal MGTOW shit, so I'm baffled you'd assume I'm advocating for eugenics. I'm advocating for common decency and reality, not your moid celebratory envisioned idea of the human race. It's painfully self explanatory why females are more valuable than males in the human species it doesn't even need to be discussed, we all know it we see it everyday in crime statistics.
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to be fair nona, i was a trutrans/truscum when I came here a few years ago. these threads did a lot in starting me on desisting and learning about radical feminism. to every trannie lurking this thread, see you on the other side in a few years!
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tifs make the worst memes
It might not be that. I think breasts and other secondary sex characteristics are triggering
for some women who have been raped or abused or sexually harassed, or are just in FTM cases, dysphoric. I remember trying to flatten my tits during puberty because had been sexually abused in childhood and I absolutely hated the idea of becoming ‘womanly’ and having men and even other women comment on and looking at my body. I remember my neighbor, who was this really loud extra woman from Jamaica, seeing me coming home from school and saying ‘Oh my nona, look at your breasts! You’re growing into a woman! I’m jealous of how perky they are!’ And it legit triggered
me for months and made me feel sooooo uncomfortable, even though it’s normal in her culture to say such stuff I guess. I hate trannies but I can understand feeling deeply uncomfortable with your own body, of course the solution is they need therapy and self love, not cutting their boobs off with the help of awful amoral surgeons.
Also, while saying this, I am aware there are a small minority of women who have been brainwashed so thoroughly that they genuinely believe femininity and female characteristics to be worthless that they want to throw away all their female traits like trash, which is gross. But even those women were probably abused or groomed and brainwashed by a toxic
male in their life from childhood to end up thinking that way, nearly all of these issues lead back to childhood abuse.
>>1801493> Usually the most "genetically fit" in darwinist terms males are just the strongest males most able to beat up other males and it also means they are able to rape or monopolize the most women before getting killed
Yeah and this is why Darwinism is such a garbage scrotey system and theory to promote. It dehumanizes humans by reducing them to a pack of upright chimps, and justifies all gross and toxic
male behaviors like rape, murder, pedophilia, war etc with its nonsense just-so fallacy.
>>1801510>You are delusional if you think skinwalking TIMs, destroying women's rights and getting off on making women uncomfortable, aren't way more toxic then some desperate women chasing beauty and immortality
They are both toxic
. At the end of the day there are way more plastic bimbo bio women and MTF trannies than tifs with surgery, and tifs are already so mocked and sidelined even within the LGBT community that their voices are barely heard. Bio female bimbos and tranny moid bimbos do way more harm to women because their image is based off of porn fetishes and designed solely for the male gaze and they dehumanize themselves as walking sex dolls for men to use, which harms all women in the process and increases male entitlement to womens bodies and their standards for what women should look like. Tifs engage in harmful practices too but are mostly ignored or mocked by bio males, and although a tiny amount of them do it for fetish or sex work reasons, generally most of them dont do it for the male gaze.
Yeah this. I don’t care about eugenics as it’s generally a scrote and polcel subject. But if you want to go at it, women being more selective is actually pure eugenics, as women actually select for things like intelligence, strength, height, good bone structure, body symmetry, adaptability, wit, bravery, independence etc.
Male sexual selection is dysgenic because male sexual preferences are predicated on pedophilia, women being dumb, weak, physically small and frail, passive, submissive, introverted etc.
There are studies that show people are getting taller, more beautiful, smarter etc because of female sexual selection being practiced more widely.
It’s funny how when you bring this up with moid ‘eugenicists’ they shit themselves in rage.
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Looks like it was a Dylan cosplay and she had Randy Stair accuracy.
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TIF MacHale joining the new cast of Doctor Who
While I agree with you nonnie
, I think what you’re saying is still practicing sexism like another Nona said.
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i fucking hate the way these people talk
names censored because private chat
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One of my ex art mutuals became a shotafag and simultaneously trooned out. I wonder why.
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aw shucks, you're gonna make me blush nona! you inspired me to mosey over to the personal cow thread and crosspost what i've written + pen a more consistent timeline of accounts: >>>/snow/1801893
but, anyways, in the interest of not getting too sageworthy + staying on topic, i bring another gift: a TIF telling the very real story of how nurses told her husband to fuck her with cum-covered fingers while she was screaming and trying to push a baby out of her boipussy. if this isn't a rewritten excerpt from one of OP's fetish stories i'll eat my fucking hat.
(sidenote in case it's mentioned: yes, sex during early labor/before a woman's water breaks is A Thing that even trad doctors/nurses will recommend to speed things along; fingerfucking your partner with cum-hands while the baby is crowning is very much not.)
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The whole thread in a gif.
Dogs can actually be feeling stressed, anxious, angry, or uncomfortable while still wagging their tails. That's why some people are bitten by surprise when they thought "but the dog seemed happy".
Now if the dogs were playing or "protecting a territory" or something, that's another thing. But I think if the grid get closed again, the dogs would start to bark again.
I like how you said they weren't performing gender and then began to list off all the ways that in modern societies it is performing gender because it's unnecessary lmao. Just because something is based in biology doesn't mean it can't be exaggerated through performance in the division of labor just like women can be promiscuous even though sex is costlier for us because we get pregnant which means we should biologically be more prudent. Men are able to care for children and forage, they just usually don't. Women are able to do dangerous and risky jobs and risk their lives, they just usually don't.>most men don't risk their lives by going to their office jobs,
No, but men make up the majority of the workforce in dangerous occupations>women can do any type of work,
Except women usually don't do dangerous jobs for… the reasons both you and I mentioned, still>there's no need for everyone to reproduce.
There's never a need for everyone or even anyone to reproduce. People literally continue the human species just because they want to, there's no rationale behind it
Well it was confusing because you replied to a post where "gender" was used in the tranny sense. Only women are capable of giving birth so it will always be a "role" that only women can have, and men are physically stronger so they will always be more suited for physically demanding jobs. It's a biological reality. It starts becoming an ideology when women's actions are artificially restricted, a performance of "femininity" is requested of them, men are given more freedoms etc. So yes unnecessary gender roles & stereotypes still exist but I'm not sure that was the best example of it and I don't see how it relates to the initial argument about trannies "performing gender" on an island by putting flowers in their hair. >There's never a need for everyone or even anyone to reproduce. People literally continue the human species just because they want to, there's no rationale behind it
There is in fact a need to reproduce for a species to be perpetuated, that's an instinct animals have, but unlike a lot of other animals, humans don't rely on reproducing as much as possible to survive (in modern societies) and they can see beyond their instinct. The more a society is developed and the less people reproduce for this reason.
>>1802009>Well it was confusing because you replied to a post where "gender" was used in the tranny sense.
We weren't, we were talking about labor differences in gender>It starts becoming an ideology when women's actions are artificially restricted, a performance of "femininity" is requested of them, men are given more freedoms etc.
I guess the question is when does it stop being biological and start being a social construct? You and the other person already agreed that women are biologically tied down and tied with children. That in itself means "less freedom" in a sense: on top of taking care of yourself and watching your own back, you'll have to also look out for a small, dependant human too and provide food and care for it. Men don't have to do that and don't in most societies>I don't see how it relates to the initial argument about trannies "performing gender" on an island by putting flowers in their hair.
Did you even read the chain of posts? I said what that anon said was stupid because the heaviest gender division isn't usually clothes, although that is a component, it's labor and types of labor>There is in fact a need to reproduce for a species to be perpetuated, that's an instinct animals have,
It's not an instinct humans have. Humans have an instinct for sex and masturbation, but we know how to prevent reproduction and often do. Continuing the species isn't an instinct (especially not for women), it's ideological in humans or else we wouldn't be able to control it
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This girl goes by he/him. I will never understand this chronically online mentality
>>1802013>We weren't, we were talking about labor differences in gender
You brought up labor differences in reply to this post >>1801872
where I was talking about trannies and women performing femininity so I didn't immediately get that you switched to gender roles but I get it now.>I guess the question is when does it stop being biological and start being a social construct?
I agree with you.>It's not an instinct humans have. Humans have an instinct for sex and masturbation
All animals have an instinct for sex because that's what lead to reproduction. That's how species keep going on. Humans are of course different from other animals in their cognitive abilities. They learned how to prevent reproduction and they have sex/masturbate for pleasure. They developed technologies/medicine which extend life expectancy and reduce infant mortality, and people don't need to have as much children as possible for work/survival. I agree that reproduction has always been used by men to restrict women's role/place in society but it doesn't mean that continuing the species is in fact an ideology (which would have been formulated by the first humans everywhere?), it's inherent to all life forms.
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Just some random twitter shit about some tif hoping troons will invade womens' spaces.
I agree. Whether it's women writing it or just watching and idolizing real gay men like RuPaul, it's toxic
and makes them hate being a woman because they project themselves onto gay men and start to want to be one because that's all they ever talk about, read about, write about, watch etc. I had a few friends irl who were like this, obsessing over RuPaul's drag race, adopting the language and calling themselves "tops" and "bottoms" even though they're women, and generally not giving a fuck about women's rights and dedicating all their energy to "gay rights". Unsurprisingly two of them identify as nonbinary now
There was a news about how some trannies wanted to join a women-only river pool when it was meant for women and kids only. Except they have also another river pool for all public at few steps far of that pool.
That kid will have a horrible awakening when a TIM calls her a woman and to stfu because "she knows more than her about being a woman" even if she claims over and over that she's a man.
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From the same Tweet:
"Women wanted our spaces to be seen as equal, we didn't let them so now they're making their spaces so we are going to raid their spaces to be equal like them".
I know this is more for /xx/ but what the Hell was that.
Public bars are male spaces??>>1802056
Her face screams "I was bullied by mean girls in high school and now I pretend to be a male so I can feel superior".
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>See cute Drarry fanart
>Comments are surprisingly tame except for one themby claiming the art is supporting violence against trannies
>Another tranny that is a yaoi artist, claims that she's trans and still loves HP
>Themby then tweets about said yaoi art tranny and says she's never getting to heaven KEK
>Themby pictured at the bottom with her "boyfriend" who's obviously just a woman on testosterone (complete with upper arm self harm scars)
I'm amazed there are still women drawing Drarry with the tranny shit going on. Not even trans rights could stop the Drarry coom.
Can someone answer me why these women will still claim the lesbian label despite not wanting the female label? I see this a lot lately.
23:28 akshully there are several genders, they're celebrated in cultures around the world
Oh not the cultural third gender shit again. Genuinely annoys me when I hear it now. Saged for rant of course. They aren't proof of a million genders, many of them were for males who were eunuchs or homosexual or just effeminate, to perform the female roles of that culture. Sure maybe they can be celebrated for what they are, pieces of cultural history that in some cases were attempted to be erased by colonisers, but they certainly aren't proof of troon shit. Stop forcing them through the western lens of "wow I think historical pee oh see were pure divine gender shifting beings just because their culture is slightly different to what I'm used to." Ironic that it's a poc
saying this in the video as well.
>23:51 but intersex people though
And not again with intersex. Intersex people aren't a whole new third sex, they're a combination of the two existing ones.
>>1802436>wow I think historical pee oh see were pure divine gender shifting beings just because their culture is slightly different to what I'm used to
This actually reveals how ignorant they are and how they don't care about making other cultures sound "exotic" for the sake of their shitty cult ideology. Most "third genders" were male child prostitutes or gay men who had to be in women's spaces because they weren't considered men enough. It's just plain old bigotry, but it's from another culture (most often a "non-white" one) so it's actually about divine demigod twans ppl!
>they're a combination of the two existing ones.
In most cases it's not even that, they're just underdeveloped males or females. Or people with hormone/chromosomal disorders, who still are either male or female (examples are people with Turner or Klinefelter).
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What is that with fakebois trying to "reclaim" the genderspecial memes? They just reinforce the idea that this pronouns thing is just a little trend among girls.
>>1802414>TiMs going on grindr and calling themselves faggot
Kek tims really are faggots, just like>TiFs calling themselves lesbians
Really are lesbians as a lot of them only date each other and not actual moids. I just don't understand why they need to jump through another loop and claim they are "transmasc".
I will never let go of a tinfoil that "transmasc/nonbinary 4f4 lesbians" are literally just lesbians who want to stay away from male troons and spicy straight normie girls.
Also I have a tinfoil that "lesbian transmascs" don't want to be normal lesbians because they associate lesbian relationships with retarded scrote gaze porn and/or spice straight e-whores pandering to scrotes but claiming to be SSA.
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I have a weird tinfoil about how yaoi loving tif4tif girls are actually lesbians who don't understand that they like masculine women. I kinda was like this and I never understood why I couldn't relate to other lesbians who liked normal female characters because I only liked really GNC women, and I read yaoi because a lot of twinks there are so feminine they are basically look like tomboys, and the fact that all the non-normie girls claim to be something else these days didn't help. Also untreated autism.
1. Sterilization and/or hysterectomy can lead to asexuality
2. A lot of TIFs are autistic, a lot of autistic people are asexual
3. Of course, female sexuality in general being stigmatized
4. Them being secretly straight but only wanting to fuck gay men (this happens a lot??) but getting rejected thus being fujosexual aka asexual
very good summary nona. Adding
5. They troon out because they hate their bodies (BDD, ED, GD) and can't even fathom ever being comfortable having sex with another person so they identify as asexual to not have to deal with it
I would also add
6. They got on the pill to help with acne and it ruined their sex drive
7. They are weirdo's and no one is interested in them and it's just less embarrassing to say "I'm asexual" than noone wants to touch me because I creep everyone out
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Don't know if it's been posted already but I saw this article. Most of it is saying things that are already known/obvious but I found it interesting that they are using they/them and even male pronouns for her in this particular article. Also it seems to have been confirmed that this was inspired by past incidents… tinfoil but maybe she was a school shooter stan on an alt tumblr like some anons have been saying?
What I'm getting :>hated the school
Reason for target>considered the actions of other mass shooters
Columbine fangirl, explains the method>friend died + preexisting "mood disorder" (makes no mention of her past stalking though kek)
Why she snapped now
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someone please help this girl with her trauma
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>a 16 year old girl self-mutilated with a razor and almost bled to death
the responses to this are disturbing.
she had "an insurmountable disgust for the feminine aspects of her body. [she] would like to stop menstruating and above all does not wish to possess breasts" - Hirschfeld, the doctor who eventually gave her the surgery.
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>>1802850>"if I look feminine"
Because you ARE female, ffs.
Picrel, she admitting she has a fetish for being a "twink" after an assault.
This. Are gay men actually straight if they fanboy over Ariana Grande or Kpop girls? No. This double standard only ever applies to lesbians and it's so annoying. I think people forget that lesbians still enjoy things that are created by women & for women because newsflash, we still are women despite our dykery, so when something is mostly targeted towards hetero/bi women they get offended if lesbians also wind up enjoying it. >>1802939
Why is it always bihets who get to dictate what lesbian sexuality is? There's absolutely nothing heterosexual about exclusively dating women as a woman kek, doesn't matter what your hobbies are. You can wax poetic all you want about fictional interests, but in the end, a woman's only bi/straight if she fucks men. Sorry to break it to you, but looking at two drawings getting it on will never change a lesbian's goldstar status. You sound like the crowd who thinks enjoying GTA makes you more likely to actually commit crimes IRL.
Yes, but anon is clearly talking in a general, non-case by case sense. I'm merely stating that if a woman isn't attracted to any men at all, would never touch one or have sex with one, would never date or be intimate with one but she enjoys yaoi couples, it doesn't all of a sudden make her bi. Blogpost, but I used to be TIF4TIF and I almost exclusively read yaoi back then, and realizing that real life men and anime boys aren't
the same thing is what made me realize I was actually a lesbian with internalized misogyny. A lot of this discussion reminds me of the common "If you like tomboys, why not just date a guy?" homophobic remark. "If you're okay with reading about two fictional men, you probably think about REAL men, too."
>>1803013>Is every virgin asexual then? Sexuality is based on attraction first and foremost
Virgins are attracted to/in love with real people also. It says much more about their sexual orientation than the fictional anime characters they ship on Tumblr.>if you spend all your time watching male bodies depicted in sexual situations
Except these women are not looking at real burly gay men getting it on. There's a reason it's always yaoi because the characters are very effeminate and written by women. Plus you're forgetting that tifs are mentally unwell and hate being female.
The fact that it exists doesn't prove that no fujo can be lesbian. Acting like all fujos look at real men getting fucked in the ass is disingenuous, even straight fujos are rarely ever into it. >>1803043>Effeminate men aren’t the same as GNC women, holy fuck
Nobody said that, stop insisting with the fake outrage. TIFs, straight or gay, hate themselves and the female body which is why they read romance written by women but played out by drawn effeminate men, get over it.
It isn’t fake outrage just because you don’t understand how GNC women aren’t Men Lite, and you did say that “it’s not like they’re watching big burly men get it on”. You told on yourself right there, men are men no matter how they look. If you like seeing men get it on, but you wouldn’t fuck one, you’re still bi because lesbians don’t like seeing men in sexual situations enough to seek out yaoi, unless they truly don’t know where to find lesbian stories, but it’s the internet, are you really that stupid? Once again, your bi experience isn’t a lesbian one because lesbians don’t like men, even if they’re fictional, maybe you should be getting over that, kek.
this confused me at first, wdym? that the content produced for gay ships are part of the female gaze because theyre written by women, for women? i never denied that, i was just saying that lots of women end up being into ships from series that were not written for women as the intended demographic, so the male characters don't come off as female-gazey. whatever female shippers do to the characters afterward is their own projection.
i realized i said "men in yaoi" in my earlier post but i was speaking more broadly in terms of gay ships in general. characters from BL genre are written with a female-gaze, i'll give you that, but there's a lot of gay ships that just seem to boom in popularity from shounen series, and it has nothing to do with those characters being written by women, for women. they're just relatable characters that can appeal to anyone regardless of gender, they're not actually "butch women" or whatever people say.
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I was referring to how in most yaoifics and dojunshis the designated uke essentially becomes a female version of himself, both in mannerism, how he's treated in story and sometimes in appearance
It's weird but it happens, there are lesbian TIFs who date other women but at the same mutilate their own bodies (top surgery etc).>>1803056>you did say that “it’s not like they’re watching big burly men get it on”.
Because anons' argument was that fujos can't be lesbians since they're attracted to men fucking each other in the ass, as if fujos are seeking out porn for gay men instead of content made by women where characters aren't even masculine looking. You're so upset about the idea that a lesbian could be a fujo, what next, are you going to deny that there are lesbian TIFs? Are you going to say that straight women watching lesbian porn have had a "bisexual experience"? Literally everywhere else on lolcow, the idea that watching gay romance means you're bi would get anyone called a spicy straight but now you're basically agreeing with the idea that women's sexual orientations depend on what they watch simply because it supports your argument that lesbians, even TIFs, would never be into anything else than lesbian romances. Also, you can give your opinion without acting like the representative of all lesbians and The Lesbian Experience™, it's embarrassing.
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>fujoshis can be lesbians too! Yaoi is butch4butch!
This has a OVA series too, kek. I guess it was just that popular among bihets.
>>1803072>Are you going to say that straight women watching lesbian porn have had a "bisexual experience"?
You talk and talk on not realising how you’re exposing your obvious fluid sexuality.. yes those women are bisexual. You clearly do not understand the nature of someone exclusively attracted to one sex that is why you’re asking all these fucking retarded questions & seem genuinely confused on how homosexuality functions.>Also, you can give your opinion without acting like the representative of all lesbians and The Lesbian Experience™, it's embarrassing.
Multiple lesbians itt disagree with you, do not relate to you & have been explaining why?
The point is that the goal of TIFs is to escape the female body even in fiction, as opposed to seeking out & being attracted to masculinity. >>1803085>Multiple lesbians itt disagree with you, do not relate to you & have been explaining why?
And I'm not the only anon that said that lesbians can be into yaoi, I'm also not the anon who made the original post about lesbian fujos (literally talking about her own experience), but I am indeed the only anon that kept replying kek and it's useless. Lesbians on lolcow care so much about their "image" it goes as far as tinfoiling that fujotifs dating each other are in fact straight women who couldn't find a man (?) instead of admitting that some women caught up in the gender woo are lesbians. In fact they're one of the main victims
of the gender BS. But let me guess, chopping off your tits and pretending to be a man due to severe internalized homophobia/misogyny is not relatable to you so it's probably just repressed bisexuality. >seem genuinely confused on how homosexuality functions.
Again, if an anon claimed to be bi because of some shit she watches despite dating only men, she would get mocked, "spicy straight" etc. It's known that a lot of straight women watch lesbian porn or solo women because it's less violent and focus on the woman. We can say that these women are in fact bisexuals if you want, it doesn't change the fact that this is something that anons would usually disagree with because they don't like it when there are too many women claiming to be SSA. Now they're switching it up ("your sexuality is fluid if you read non-straight romance!!") because it supports their argument.
The seme is but as >>1803089
pointed out, the uke essentially becomes female in all but name
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The absolute state of TIFs.
could you please shut up about "fluid sexuality"? lol no, watching lesbian porn made for moids doesn't make a woman bisexual, stop acting like you're some kind of an expert on human sexuality.>inb4 you don't realize you're bi
nah I'm bisexual but i'm pretty sure all those women who occasionally admit to watching "lesbian" porn but would never have sex with a woman irl are not.
There's a difference between ships and actual yaoi. Shipping is just fan culture, yaoi is an actual genre, by definition homoerotic media created by women for women.
Fic writers and fan artists use the term yaoi to describe their fanworks which is somewhat accurate (since they take non-yaoi medias and essentially turn it into yaoi) but that doesn't make the male-written source material yaoi. Thus the yaoi aspect is still created by women.
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She was a patient of Magnus Hirschfeld, a pedophile who frequented child brothels and openly advocated for adult men to be allowed to rape children. she was most likely groomed by that sick pervert.
I am the nonni who posted >>1802618
and>unless they truly don’t know where to find lesbian stories
Is my situation, I guess I'm just retarded and don't know where to find the right thing but the only f/f I've seen is either gross hentai for moids or uwu sapphic girls in flower crowns holding hands for spicy straight women.
I guess what is attractive to me in yaoi is the female gaze itself and not the characters, the way women depict sexual situations.
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>"If you're attracted to depictions of males you're not a lesbian"
>"Getting aroused to and spending all your time obsessively preoccupied by men in sexual situations with each other doesn't mean I'm attracted to men because uhhh they look like butch women (except they're male)! Or they're fictional men or ""unattainable"" celebritiy men! Or it's written by women for women btw even though most fujo ships are ships from popular male written stories!"
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Okay retard, you can quit posting about this and post some real milk instead. Could you speds please find somewhere else to infight and stop shitting up this thread? Picrel is milktax, i.e. fakebois projecting upon another tumblr sexyman.
you really gonna argue this isn't hetorsexuality >>1803074
with extra steps
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anyways, just because it isn’t happening to you troon doesn’t mean it isn’t happening at all. also I always found it so disturbing how eager they all are to destroy their bodies, it is one massive death cult.
(is that blogpost?)If I am a giga autist and have no interest in real women but like fictional women, does it make me lesbian or asexual? I will never date anybody so by the logic of nonnie
№1 I am asexual as it doesn't matter what content I consume but by the logic of nonnie
№2 (you) fictional affection is just as important as real one.
ayrt what >>1803298
said is right. you dont need to have sex with someone to understand who you are.. there are other ways our sexuality is expressed that doesn’t require sex & dating.
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This bitch is manic. i cant decide if i’m disgusted or concerned
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I have been dealing with health issues and doctors do not take me seriously. Is it because I'm a woman? No, is the doctors that are racists.
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She's getting funny, but not "ha ha" funny.
nta, but what i assume that anon means is that shippers fall in love with male-written characters and become obsessed about them, but lesbian fujos will try to justify their attraction by saying the characters are drawn and written as butch women and that's why they can ignore the male aspect. nobody is denying that women consume fics and art by other women, but the biggest fujo ships originate from non BL media. fan content of gay ships have a female gaze the same way hetero stuff written by women have a female gaze, but nobody will say the man in a het ship is actually a butch woman just because the story was written by a woman.
what people mean to say is that the romance (in BL and het) is written with a female gaze and that's why they enjoy it, because men are fucking awful at writing romance, but you cannot conflate that with gay male characters actually being characterized as lesbian women just because they're "more emotional". lesbian fujos can enjoy BL because the romance is written with a female-gaze, but other anons are talking about how certain lesbians will make their entire fandom experience about sexualizing men's bodies, talking about their dicks, and producing porn of them. straight women can enjoy lesbian romance that is written by women, but you will not see straight women making oversexualized porn of them on the same level.
i have a bi friend who calls herself a lesbian just because she never wants to date a man again, and all the content she produces is BL or her self-insert getting fucked by a man, but it's okay she's a lesbian because she's e-dating a woman. these are the "lesbian fujos" that anons are calling out.
>>1803361>ana to FtM pipeline
Uhhh it's kind of scary how common this is. She still has an ED but now it's based because she's trannie gender and she SHOULD lose unhealthy amounts of weight because it "makes" her a real boy
(not man obviously), I guess.
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Man this woman is so laughable. I'd feel bad for her if the mental illness shit didn't also feel like a LARP.
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here is the inventory police seized from Audrey's room. they also found a man's driver's license… wonder who that belonged to.
soooo many electronics. i guess she just hoarded every electronic she ever owned?
Woah, Wonder what the redacted item was. I added up like 20 journals in total. (wasn't sure if #11 said 4 or 9 though.)
I bet 30$ the cops find some really fucked up transcel alt accounts when they unlock her tech. It's like the whole "Harmless Autistic Disney adult" thing was a mask for when she was around people.
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>>1804260>Wants to get top surgery>she's flat chested
They have these "trans man scars" too glamorized at this rate. Is like not gender dysphoria for having breast in first place, is like breast in general is horrible to have and you're not a real "man" without these scars.
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sage for an absolutely retarded post but the profile of this girl made me kek
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macbook is expensive as shit and brand new with a full warranty.
At least in my experience, it’s usually an excuse for being horny all the time
Sage for blogpost I have a pseudo handmaiden friend like this who is constantly thirsts over random male e-thots and talks about wanting to get slammed into the wall and fucked but she claims to be asexual at the same time.
I really don’t think anyone believes her with that being said though.
i’m not saying it’s impossible to be that mix but it’s certainly rare. besides tifs love racefaking so there’s that.
i do hope the parent part is fake.
the game this is on, everskies, is a goldmine for this stuff. I got into it because of the nostalgia of pixel avatars and found out very quickly that it's full of xenogender neopronoun and nonhuman bs. A lot of people have emoji pronouns and it/xe/they shit. Most of the "males" are tifs and gaydens. Tiktok rhetoric about gender and race are popular, and so is tiktok level reading comprehension, toxicity and virtue signalling. Some of the outfits are nice, though.
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I think I mentioned many women that were famous for their masculine attires and androgynous looks but they're still women. Grace Jones, Annie Lennox and Shirley Manson are the ones I can think of (oldfag). Is sad that women think to look androgynist you must have a male body too.
sorry anon. there was someone in the previous thread that was getting really angry about the use of "they" and I thought they were getting riled up again kek>>1804347
i'm also 30 and agree it's very normal for people I know to use "they" in that way, even when they know the sex of the person. eg "what are they doing?" when you are confused by a person's behaviour. you see what sex they are but you can still use 'they' to refer to them.
the genderqueer stuff didn't start coming in til mid 2010s so maybe the understanding of the 'singular they' has been overshadowed by that now.
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From the mtf thread.
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I went on the blog, she talks like the parent part isn't fake…
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Faghag fujo TIFs are the imo the worst subset of fujotroons.
These kinds of fujotroons make me so sad, it's like watching an ouroboros made of madness.
They act like faggots, who are already anoying because they larp as females to get moid attention while being a …woman who doesn't need this kind of shit. They're mimicking their haters to get a crumble of validation from men that don't even want to fuck them, tragic.
even that ezra bitch did this
"Ooww I hate that I was a normal girl who didn't have to inject synthetic hormones that will make me bald, didn't have to compress her chest and didn't rely on online attention :( Boohoo!!"
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the state of this tif kek
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ok fess up which one of you posted the bottom one to cause dysphoria lmao
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Spoiler because of fucked up imagery.
Saw this girl on Instagram who is of course a ftm and one of the pictures on her profile was this shit. I saw it so you have to see it too. I hope it's fake blood.
In other post she mentions something about not being a girl and eating poop and the video attached she's eating something that I hope for everything that's holy it's chocolate pudding or something similar.
Wtf is up with todays youth
you have to viciously and often times derangedly carve out your very specific niche to generate enough memetic energy to sustain your brand. these kids are ferocious marketers of their own identities to a quite literally insane degree
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Show me these hyper masculine, 6 pack having trans men. I’ve yet to meet a tif who isn’t painfully skinny or a doughy mess. They all hate themselves too much to go to the gym.
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I think every should see this pic of Buck Angel(the most masculine TIF for some people) standing next to 2 average bodied men
That argument is so demented.>you don't want men in the women's changing room? well we surgically and chemically mutated women into horrors beyond human comprehension, where do they go to take a piss?
The obvious answer is to not create these creatures in the first place because there is little in the world that is more evil than this process, but in the end a mutated, mutilated woman is still a woman and not a man and this has entire question is a red herring that doesn't support at all their desire that men should be able to hang out in women's toilets and changing rooms, unconditionally, so log as they say they want to.
But the reality is that the police is called to arrest women who speak out about those men and the media portrays them as bigoted monsters, while the sex perverts are free to live out the fetish in peace.
I was sexually assault by someone who was my "friend" that was tif if that helps
There was def no actual overpowering it mostly happened because it my complete shock that someone I trusted was touching me like that
Rape doesn't have to involve having a penis. These tif can easily use a dildo or anything phallus shaped on her victims
. Rape is about power and make your victim
feel worthless and it was her fault or reserved it.
South American nonnie
, can confirm. Sometimes I feel smaller than my (USAian?) friends and then I remember that I'm way taller than other women in my country. A south American TIF might be taller than other women here, but in USA or even Nordic countries, she can pass like a dwarf.
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Yeah like native andean men are short, hairless, can't grow beards and sometimes they let their hair grow to a length superior to the average of latinas, but not even a tourist seeing them for first time can confuse one as a woman, because they have the rectangular anatomy and features that all males have
Those are women who messed around with their hormones and may/may not have had some cosmetic surgery, not men. Huge difference. The outside doesn't matter because they actually belong. They always have, and always will.
Do these people think women with PCOS don't belong in women's bathrooms, too?
A woman with a lot of body hair is still a woman. An extremely muscular woman is still a woman. A woman who cut off a chunk of her arm and sewed it to her groin is still a woman (though these surgeries are so rare it isn't even worth taking into consideration.) I'd rather share a locker room with Buck Angel than with Dylan Mulvaney literally any day.
Irony of ironies, many TiFs continue to use the women's room anyway out of– you guessed it– fear of males. Men and women have to have separate spaces because one is constantly victimizing the other.
Why is always the "terf
in bathrooms are always checking on the genitals on people when they just want to pee" when a normal person can distinguish the diferencie between a woman and… whatever a tif or a tim looks like?
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You made me think of this awful comic
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i know they aren't to be posted anymore but the way the artist of this depicts herself bears a hilarious resemblance to the pooner memes lol
Holy shit, look at that abdominal, android, panniculus, potbelly paunch she’s developing.
Troonerism os truly a mental and physical disease that destroys female bodies.(learn to sage)
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Looks like Audrey was possibly an edgy Columbiner like Lindsay Souvannarath.
>Authorities have yet to release what was written publicly. But TBI director David Rausch did talk candidly about the contents of the manifesto at a Tennessee Sheriffs' Association meeting. Rausch said what police found isn't so much a manifesto spelling out a target but a series of rambling writings indicating no clear motive.
>Investigators searched the Nashville home of the Covenant School shooter leaving with among other things — a number or handwritten journals, some videos and computer hard drives. Rausch told sheriffs that the review so far of the material finds that the killer did not write about specific political, religious or social issues. In fact, a primary focus in the journals is on idolizing those who committed prior school shootings.
>She appears to have followed their lead planning for months and acted alone.https://www.newschannel5.com/news/tbi-director-shares-new-details-on-the-covenant-school-shooters-manifesto
OT but>Lindsay Souvannarath
is a name I haven’t heard in ages. Didn’t she have a thread here?
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they're bullshitting us hard. No one randomly warms up to commit an act in which the main focus is to humiliate and attack an institution, a group, or a society. terrorist acts are not committed on pure desire to harm. otherwise, you could just kill individual people like a serial killer. I don't buy it for a fucking second
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So she just wanted to be thing basically since she’s a they/them and dresses very fem which makes her feel good about herself.
One of the comments said her surgeon was so good the other comments were saying how they can’t wait to get rid of their breasts to look flat on dresses.
This is just depressing but Euphoria!
We know that rape doesn't always involve a penis, but again tifs are women and women aren't dangerous to other women like a man would be. We know that there are some cases of woman on woman violence, but 90% of rapes are committed by men. And again, most tifs aren't physically strong enough to cause serious problems to random women in female bathrooms.>>1805326>height as a determining factor in masculinity is largely a western judgement
I'm not american, but I'm pretty sure that even if men are shorter in some areas, they're still taller than the average woman in that same area. Still, men and tifs are anatomically very different even if they have the same height.
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>>1805887>there were already a bunch of post on the detrans reddit about people posing as documentarians to try and get photos of the women there.
i wan to a-log
Rape isn't always or even mostly about power, that's a scrote-pushed idea. Rape usually is a person feeling entitled to another person's body or about explicit hatred against the victim
's demographic/personhood using it as a hate crime with the added sexual drive (if it was just power and they got no sexual gratification they'd beat the woman not necessarily rape her, that's why for example scrotes mostly rape in alignment with their sexuality and beat not rape men they hate usually). While obviously a woman can feel this way they overall don't which is why rapists are like 98% male.
And even ignoring the male v female stats, the likelihood of a transmed tif, especially post phallo (like the tweet indicates) raping someone would be low on its own just on a practicality perspective which is why it's funny the troon is acting like a tif being forced to stay in a female washroom means women are in more danger than around normal women, I'd honestly expect more rapes out of females who haven't mangled their bodies to remove proper sexual function. Tifs would need a tool and they couldn't physically enjoy the experience to the point of hurting themselves as much as the victim
if they tried. On the various parameters set to create a rape in the first place you'd need a serious woman hating serial rapist who gets off purely on the sexual humiliation and sadism, I could see a tif raping out of brain rot from sexual frustration after their clit gets covered in the fake penis skin and unusable and also hating other woman as a projection of themselves. But I think there would have been a case of that by now if that was in any way a likely event. Especially since in reality fakebois and transmeds don't have the same restrictions the tweet claimed with them being "basically men who can rape with a penis too"
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>facial masculinization surgery
And they say denial is not just a river in Egypt.
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It's dystopian to look at. It doesn't even look more neutral or male, it looks prepubesent and anorexic. You just know in the future her mind will have switched and her chest will give her real "wrong body" dysphoria only this time she can't fix it and have her breasts back. If she has a child she can't ever breastfeed it, because as a young woman she hated women and female bodies too much to think breasts are even worth having. If that child is a daughter, how will she explain when she's older why her mommy doesn't have breasts? Will she encourage her to amputate hers too? Do these girls realize that’s what they're doing to young teen girls on tiktok? Spreading hatred of the female body and promoting harming it permanently, just to look less female.
Even though some women are happy never having any, statistically she and all of these girls will grow out of this phase, and they'll end up wanting kids. That's just reality.
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>the braver footsteps are walked with high heels
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You made me remember this secret. "Porn made me realize I'm a trans girl and I would be desired" sounds akin with "Porn made me realize women like it that way".
I feel like this comic is a Rorschach test - viewers can interpret it in many different ways depending on where they fall in pro- or anti- TRA ideology. Maybe the high heel means that women who accept that they are women and don’t cut their tits off due to internalized misogyny are braver. The pessimistic side of me thinks that Noelle, still totally brainwashed by TRA ideology, is trying to say that the men who dress up as women are braver because these stunning and brave laydees are being genocides by TERFs every day, while TIFs like her are relegated to the back of the bus in conversations about troonery.
My dream is for Noelle to grow a backbone, detransition, and write an autobiographical memoir about her time in gender hell. I bet that JKR could help her secure a publishing deal lmao. If Ellen Page ever detransitions she could play Noelle in the movie adaptation of her comic.
Honestly I have lost sympathy for her, she is a victim
of her own shitty life decisions and should be treated as such.
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Sometimes dramaturgy or method acting can make us believe we are if we go for it hard enough (for the sake of warding off predators rather than making asses of ourselves).
It's obviously a double edged sword because then we can't be taken seriously once we prove our hardest how we're NOT dumb, decimating us to shit when it's used against us.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
A lot of tifs seem to want the tit chop because they think boobs are for whores and they'll be seen as people if they're removed, it's deeper than just "aesthetics". Judging by the results, their surgeons don't care about aesthetics either.>>1806354>I also sometimes want to lop off my breats because I don't like them but then I think, is this normal?
Same nona. Slight blog, it started with wanting a reduction for back pain and sagging but has become wanting a flat chest, I don't want children anyway, but breasts aren't just for children and the surgery and complications aren't to be taken lightly so can I justify it?
You probably think the uterus is only for growing a fetus huh
Your breasts are complex organs just like the rest of your body jfc pick a book and learn about your body, you need
to know your body. Sincerely hope you're underage or lurking tifs psyoping those are extremely mentally ill takes
>>1806339>if they want to get rid of their tits?>prefer the flat chest look anyways
Pick one and only one. Because removing your breasts and having small, healthy breasts are completely different situations and look completely different as well. It's like comparing cutting your hands off because you wished you had smaller hands.>>1806345
Get psychiatrist help before posting on the internet again. Now.
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a tif got caught faking being a intersex man because of taking a selfie with a dildo inside her pants
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Bizarre you don’t mention sexual pleasure? Plenty of women including ones with larger breasts get sexual pleasure from having their breasts touched. Whether you’re attracted to men or women, it’s a major erogenous zone that a partner can make use of.
Also little toes are useless yet we would think anyone wanting to get rid of them to make their feet slimmer has issues. The body is not plug and play, and the idea that parts should be removed or added for non medical reasons encourages viewing the body as the problem, and not the attitude towards the body. Every time a woman child her breasts off to avoid sexualization, she is telling other women with her body and story that this is a viable response to being sexualized, just like how every woman who gets an ethnic nose job reinforces the notion that ethnic noses are ugly and ski slope noses are the only beautiful ones.
No, I don't think I will>>1806568>Bizarre you don’t mention sexual pleasure
The other anons already mentioned not wanting sex either so I didn't see the reason to. I'd say maybe consider that women often do things out of their own desire, no matter if those things are good or bad, and not to send a message to other women or whatever, but it wasn't my point to argue anyway, I just wanted to express my support for those three anons and I really don't see the reason for all the hate and infighting
>>1806546>It's low key misogynistic to dismiss or straight up make fun of other women's genuine feelings of discomfort like that ngl
>It's like female biology is built to serve others
No. You could say that about dicks but you didn't. Wonder why.
being uncomfortable with your breasts because of the patriarchy is no different from anorexic girls being uncomfortable with their own bodies because of unrealistic beauty standards, or even the TIFs being uncomfortable with being perceived as women. you agree that your discomfort is socially constructed and is the result of your own thinking; there is nothing inherently wrong with your breasts or body, you just don't like it because of how society perceives you. men will fetishize ANY body part; should you amputate yourself until your body doesn't physically exist at all, just so you are finally free of male objectification?
if your breasts cause you physical complications due to size, then i understand why they're not just something you can ignore because they affect your daily life, but otherwise you need to learn to accept yourself for who you are and accept your body for what it is. i don't think about my breasts the same way i don't think about any other body part. they're just there. i don't see the point of attaching all these meanings to them because you're just going to stress yourself out the more you think about it.
Sage your autism.
I’m not making a speech, I’m simply saying a reality of dealing with overly big breasts? Do you seriously not care about back pain, how it can hurt to run, and actually exercise? Have you never experienced being unable to do sports because of your body hurting suddenly, and being unable to stop it? It’s one thing to be an A or B cup, it’s another to be an F cup and have it severely impact your life. My “speech” was about how GNC women are pushed into believing that this means they’re men, when in reality it has nothing to do with that. I never considered my chest useless at any point, you need to gain some reading comprehension and learn to integrate. You sage unless you have actual milk to share, idiot.
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>>1806546>It's low key misogynistic to dismiss or straight up make fun of other women's desire to chop off healthy body parts
Yeah, and it's high-key misogynistic to normalize it. Go be mentally ill somewhere else.
>>1806546>I am an incredibly insecure woman and I think my body only exists to serve men, so I think it's right for me and other women to cut off the parts used for serving men so I can be free and superior.
And women with breasts and uterus are all whores right? They all secretly love being cock sleeves for the superior male, otherwise why would they choose to keep their cock-accomodating parts and not mutilate themselves to be free from sexualization?
Your body is already yours. Your boobs are simply a part of your body, your uterus and vagina are just how your body is built. They'll be useful in case you want to have children, but they do not belong to the child or to males. Plenty of things in your body don't have purpose, yet you're not going on about how you want to cut off some fingers, toes, ears, lungs, or other organs. You hate breasts because male view them as things that belong to them and you believe them. It's insane how some of you come here to laugh at tifs while behaving exactly like them and spouting woman-hating bullshit left and right because you can't help being disgusted by the icky whores who keep their bodies intact.
>>1806342>Me and a lot of women I've talked to wished they had small or non existent boobs
and that's not good nor is it normal. it's a sad effect of a misogynistic society, which is the actual problem.
you guys need to learn to accept your body as normal and default and unlearn all the horrible shit that scrotes associate with your body parts.
yeah congrats, you are self-aware enough to realize that you hate your body because of how women are objectified, but instead of thinking about it deeper and reaching the correct conclusion (that misogynistic ideas in society need to be destroyed), you just stop there and decide to "solve" the "problem" by removing the healthy body parts through which men make you feel like an object as a shitty temporal solution (you will always have female organs and female internal anatomy, and if you were able to remove all of them you would probably wish you died due to all the unnecessary pain and complications you went through) and promoting the idea that it's a good solution and shouldn't be criticized. your logic is basically blaming your own female body for getting sexualized by moids, and punishing it (yourself) by mutilating it. that's basically like blaming women who dress a certain way for being raped instead of blaming moids for being rapist animals.
also you all sound really young. wait till you grow older to seriously consider mutilating yourselves (and we use the word "mutilate" because that's literally what it is, don't sugarcoat it. how can you be aware that plastic surgery exploiting people's insecurities is bad for women but think removing your breasts isn't the same shit?)>>1806790
the idea of women being able to become men in real life did not spread through slash fanfic you retard. slash fic and yaoi already had existed decades before 2010. particularly insecure girls from misogynistic societies are attracted to those genres because it provides escapism where women aren't the subject of sexualization, but slash and yaoi weren't created to promote gender ideology. gender ideology was first promoted in western post-modern academia and later western medicine because it turned out to be profitable. also not all TIFs are fujos, especially older ones, so how do you even explain that