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This is a series of threads about fakebois and trans-identified females (TIFs).
"Fakebois" are girls who pretend to be boys, either by becoming trannies or larping biological males through the screen (classic move). Fakebois usually style and present themselves as androgynous or feminine-looking boys, or wearing girls' clothing and make-up while insisting on being addressed with he/him (or occasionally they/them) pronouns and take great offense at being gendered as female.
These threads are also now a catch-all for any minor TIF cows without threads of their own. Even "serious" troons, (like Kalvin Garrah and Ellen Page) are fair game, as are horrific troon surgeries and pregnancies. Just remember to spoiler that shit.
**TIFs, no one cares if you think you're ~more legit~ than the cows posted here.** Additionally, occasional discussion of fujoshis is fine, but don't sperg and infight about it.
Notable FtM-related subreddits:
https://www.reddit.com/r/FtM/https://www.reddit.com/r/FtM_irl/https://www.reddit.com/r/gaytransguyshttps://www.reddit.com/r/FTM_SELFIES/https://www.reddit.com/r/FTMfemininity/Old threads by order of recency:
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>>1879653This is genuinely tragic.
No. 1879732
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this TIFs little sister tried expressing to her that she doesn't feel like she's a cardboard cutout of her gender role and the TIFs reaction is start crying and freaking out because this obviously means little sister is also genderspecial
No. 1879760
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>>1879732>KasokkiThe weeb names are killing me but at least it made it painfully easy to find all of her social media. Apparently she's from Brazil kek
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>>1879760and she might be a furry too, this was from her deviantart
No. 1879773
>>1879732Kids that age will insist that they’re really Spider-Man, a cat, a dinosaur, an airplane or that they’re going to marry their mom when they grow up. This little girl probably loves her sister and is just trying to be like her and gain her approval.
>>1879072People keep talking about how conservative and “LGBTQIA+ unfriendly” my town is but Pride has been going strong here since
May. All our summer events have an LGBTQIA+ slant. Even the WWII liberation day festivity has a goddamn drag event scheduled in the evening! Our local newspaper does a weekly two page profile spread on random queer-identified people and all the ones I’ve read have been full of self-victimisation and inflated persecution complexes. This week it’s an asexual bisexual (??) girl who decided she was kweer after watching some Netflix show and now feels uNsAfE because people keep asking her how it’s possible to be asexual and bisexual at the same time. Y’know, genocide. If these articles were in English I would’ve saved them to post ITT. So many of them were non-passing TIFs who think that holding hands with their boyfriends while having short hair will get them hatecrimed.
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>>1879760did she get cowtipped or is she a lurker of the thread? her profile is private only 5 hours later.
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>>1879653>>1879673Great, now she looks like Lori Lightfoot.
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what the fucking hell?
No. 1879989
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>>1879987
No. 1880008
>>1879989>>1879990wha's the point of spamming these pics? we've all seen them, the last one has been posted over and over in the ftm threads for years
>>1879673why always the bovine septyum piercing
swear 90% of tifs and spicy stright girls have them
No. 1880069
>>1879743My TIF sister too, although I'm not a TIF. It's like the only difference between us is that she's a TIF and im not. Well she wins i guess
(She does that by splitting and taking out any semblance of femaleness from me first… for her to start emulating.)
(not your personal blog) No. 1880099
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I would rather eat a tide pod
No. 1880175
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They are beyond parody
No. 1880245
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>Yaoi in IRL
No. 1880307
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Popular tumblr I’ve been following for years did a selfie reveal today. She has always described herself as a he/they TIF “guy” named James. So I at least imagined the typical TIF aesthetic but nah. Idk why but it bothers me so much when they don’t put in any effort at all. No commitment to the bit. I wonder if any of the gendies on tumblr were disappointed but ofc the notes are filled with “omg you’re so handsome” lmao
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>>1880245One of my favourite genres of tif photo
No. 1880331
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>>1880326Vaush-looking guys dating feminine tifs and then dumping them when they start talking about surgery is a meme among tifs
No. 1880371
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>T at 16 years old
Not even your average 21 year old moid looks this rough at this age. Not to say they’re not ugly and degen in their own right, but T just destroys the normal aging process it’s insane
No. 1880373
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Posting again because phonefag, but jfc why do they always infantilize themselves in ways like this, it’s creepy as fuck.
No. 1880375
>>1879965>not an open wound, not actively infectedAnon I think you mean it's not an open infected wound- "yet". Plenty of fake-phallos seem like they're healing ok only for them to leak pee out of the base because of some tiny holes and then it all goes to shit. Some even succesfully pee standing up once or twice before that. The norm with pahlloplasty is that it goes terribly wrong, it would be extremely rare that there are no complications.
You can even hear these girls admit it themselves just with other words. They'll literally say "Everything looks great! I just need a third revision because of the holes leaking out pee, but that's like totally not a big deal and can happen sometimes. Espeacially since I nearly went into sepsis the first few days, but that's just bad luck and doesn't have to do with the actual surgery-".
They'll talk exactly like that, they'll claim it all went great only to then describe multiple serious complications and near death experiences without a care in the world. They're so delusional and brainwashed it's scary. It didn't go great, you literally nearly fucking died! Over a cosmetic surgery!! And you're not only letting the surgeons get away with it, you're actively praising them and recommending other people to get the same treatment.
No. 1880376
>>1879989No offense to the people who get tricked by these fakebois…well slight offense but I have to wonder how they don't immediately know these ppl aren't real men when they see the fake genitalia.
This is obviously nothing like an actual dick so how can they act surprised when they find out their " boyfriends " aren't actually a male.
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>>1879724How did the "tifs r all sad boolied lesbians" thing catch on? Most of them are porn addicts who post degrading pictures of themselves on Reddit/Discord and are begging for STD dick on Grindr.
>>1879968She's probably not getting balls, there is a newish tif surgery called vagina-preserving phalloplasty, where yes, it's exactly how it sounds. Frankendick on the front, coochie in the back.
No. 1880492
>>1880290Tifs enby cope for 2 reasons,
1. they know they'll never pass or be treated as an actual moid but they still want to be gendies or
2. They're probably detransitioning so it's used as a compromise while they work out their problems
No. 1880528
>>1880307ftfemboys are the worst offenders because in their defense, theyre no different tha feminine moids who like to crossdress. it's always "if cis men can present feminine and still be men, then so can we! transmasc don't own you masculinity uwu" completely being dense as to why the two aren't the same at all.
she could be a troll but unfortunately too many are unironic about it. it'd be one thing if she still dressed that way with obvious affects of T but nope.
No. 1880595
>>1879724>PoonerGo back.
>>1880463TiFs aren't as homogeneous as TiMs. The majority of the straight ones are porn addicts, but for the lesbians there are definitely more factors at play. Just like any other cult, transgenderism often targets vulnerable people, in this case autists with a poor sense of identity and self-image. I don't think it's as simple as lesbians automatically trooning because of bullying. It's more like, autistic and GNC women are specifically targeted by this cult regardless of sexuality.
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anyone else like playing spot the clockable post online? Read the first comment in a subreddit centred on retail work and immediately pictured some girl with a sad pube stache and a croaky frog voice, post history confirmed that's probably correct
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I can't believe they troonwashed Hannah Gluckstein (the entire article refers to her as "they") it's like trannies legit want to erase lesbian culture.
No. 1880796
>>1880789Lou Sullivan! I forgot about her.
This has led me down a rabbit hole and apparently the first “FtM phalloplasty” was performed between 1946 and 1949 on a woman calling herself Laurence Michael Dillon. I don’t even want to imagine what that must have looked like. She also managed to have her birth certificate and school records officially altered to assist in the deception, and despite not being a licensed physician she performed an orchiectomy on “Roberta” Cowell who was the first British TIM to get his dick inverted. He was also married to a woman and supposedly “Michael” was attracted to “Roberta” but he didn’t reciprocate. Straight-with-extra-steps
and special trans privileges as early as the 40s.
>>1880791Wow. Nothing changes, does it?
No. 1880840
>>1880440>yaoi agendaWell if you like yaoi, you might be a gay man or something.
>>1880307Baphomet over here is probably a straight girl who needs quick social media clout. Of course it's always these femme types, with winged eyeliner and short skirts that feel the need to socially transition. Slap some pronouns in your profile and you are every single low effort socially trans person.
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>>1880791>her Beatles obsession. She would fantasise and write about having sex with them and even one of them raping anotherI can not imagine how old timey celebrities would cope with fujoshi fans
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Sage for super OT, but I recently watched a documentary about the "Rebel Dykes," a group of sex-positive lesbians in the 1980's who were inspired by the leather S&M scene from the gay male community. so they engaged in BDSM, made pornography, wrote extreme erotica, and even had their S&M leather clubs. They opposed both what they deemed "Christian conservatives" and "sex-negative feminists and lesbianS" and I skipped over large sections of this documentary, but one thing that really stuck out to me was just how "lame" they were. I would chuckle every time I saw them in their goofy outfits, but they would take it 100% seriously. These were pudgy little women who weren't actually fighting anyone, so they would just have sex right out in the open to "own the conservatives." Yet, they never accomplished anything. Their entire motivation was based on pissing off their parents or anything resembling them, and the way they acted reminded me a lot of modern day TIFs.
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How are they this stupid
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>>>1880791
>She would fantasise and write about having sex with the Beatles and even one of them raping another.
Jesus Christ, I know a little bit about her, but I've never heard this before. Damn shame she died from self-pozzing before the internet, she would've made an amazing horrorcow.
No. 1881037
>>1880976Oh yes, it might horrible for women, but imagine how much worse it is for women who don't believe they're women.
tbh I assume they would just get rid of any gender specials beforehand.
No. 1881059
>>1881024AYRT and she also joined a support group for men with micro penises, which is interesting as a lot of TIFs who've had metoidioplasty like Sullivan will lie about having a micro penis to potential sexual partners. I've seen multiple Aiden's on reddit admit to it. Sullivan was the mould from which an awful lot of modern TIFs are cast. As morbidly fascinating as her diary was, I just couldn't finish it as she's
so annoying. Total coomer to the end and absolutely obsessed with her identity. Felt bad for her sister though, she cared for her when Lou's body rejected one of her "testicles" and when the AIDS was killing her. Can't imagine how hard it must be to watch your sister go insane, mutilate her body and then commit what's basically an act of suicide by having unprotected sex with an MTF in San Francisco during the HIV crisis. She was the OG TIF horrorcow.
No. 1881211
>>1881185NTA, I don't think nonna is necessarily doing that, but yeah, posting lesbians on the TIF milk thread because they vaguely remind you of TIFs is weirdly out of place, even if you sage it for OT.
>>1880703KEK I checked it, and it's not calling her a they, it's just awkwardly avoiding pronouns, but there's some "her"s that were forgotten behind. I like it better when troons gendifying historical figures go for the no pronouns aproach because at least it's funny to read.
You made me think of a different question: do troons ever have a "née: xyz" on their articles?
No. 1881410
>>1881337There's so much cope and desperation in older troon spaces. These women have lost their health, their relationships with their family and friends, their chances of ever getting a job where they're not a diversity hire, their hair, and their illusions that they look like men. Literally every single older tif has that haunted bleakness in her eyes because she knows she's never going to be male and she's destroyed her entire life for nothing. They go down the agender/pangender/xir/xem/queer potato route to disconnect from their failures to perform as the stereotypes of either sex, while refusing to admit that their personalities and identities were never dependent on what pronouns they liked. It's literally the fat acceptance movement, where impressionable chubby teens at the start of the fat acceptance trend are now in their 30s and facing serious health risks because it was cool to be Tess Holliday but are terrified of weight loss because fatness has become so tied to their identity and they'd lose every friend they had along with the fat. The testosterone these tifs have been taking for years has fucked their bodies up beyond repair, I don't even mean the permanent baldness and shit like that, it fucks up their bones and their internal organs. They get called their special pronouns because it's against the law to not pander to their delusions. Everyone knows they're women. They don't see this when they're teens or early twenties, it takes years for them to reach a point where they begin to understand that not a single person who ever used male pronouns did so out of anything but politeness, attention seeking, or pity. The self hatred they had as she/hers is still there as he/hims and they/thems. Gender validation from strangers, friends and desperate family members does not replace therapy, or give them the confidence and personality they always lacked.
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does anyone else feel so sad sometimes when they see TIFs? i think they hate their body far more than TIMs. some TIMs find it a 'fun' fetish thing, but every TIF i've seen that's actually followed at least some step of transitioning seems so miserable with every natural part of who they are. their female body, their feminine mannerisms. TIFs transitioning seems like a miserable cycle of taking hormones that make you break out and start balding, and getting your breasts chopped off, just to stand next to any man and be instantly clockable. hell, i've heard of TIFs who were left so weak from their skin grafts they can't hold a fork, or TIFs whose vaginal atrophy nearly killed them, or TIFs whose top surgery went catastrophically bad. i get angry because no one seems to care that this is a cry for help, often from women who are very vulnerable.
picrel is a photo of the creator of that nimona comic that was made intk a netflix a movie. i saw a video of her speaking and it made me feel so sad for some reason. she's not a man and she never can be, but everybody has to nod along and smile because it's transphobic otherwise. sage for a bit of a blogpost and ramble
No. 1881501
>>1881471Fully agree with you but Noelle is a shitshow all over. She wrote comics about how she slept on the couch while her girlfriend fucked her (the girlfriend's, not Noelle's) boyfriend in their bed, she copes hard about her relationship and probably trooned out to keep her girlfriend happy. She's a self hating lesbian who needs to be the
victim in every situation and loves attention. I feel like a lot of tifs are like that, they hate themselves but love the asspats they get for being uwu brave smol beans. They're too scared to go to therapy and face the fact that they're fuckups who need to work on themselves.
No. 1881506
>>1881471I've known a whole lot of women with eating disorders, depression, self harming behaviour and body dysmorphic disorder, so a major part of self hating women, none of them changed gender until now and I think, I know one of the reasons and that would be that they were treated differently when I was younger. It's been some years since I've been a teenager and many of the mentally ill, self hating women I've met that went to therapy back then would get bpd as a diagnosis (still wrong, but well, better than today), no one would even speak about being born in the "wrong body" and autism didn't exist for women, except you were an aggressive male child without the possibility to ever act independent. Social media (the little that existed back then) would mostly be full of pro ana, self diagnosed bpd and pictures of bleeding wounds, well, at least the parts I was active in, there was not a single woman/girl wanting to be a man/boy. I'm sure if I would have been who I was back then today, I would have been dragged to doctors to confirm that I'm in a wrong body rather than be treated for a mental illness without further doing damage to my body. It's also easier to let them swap gender instead of addressing the real issues, honestly, how many women have we seen with self harm scars that are now men? No person in their right mind would give them a razor blade as treatment so they can go on self harming, but changing your gender, with all the damage done to the body, that's okay? It's just the easiest way out, you don't have to deal with them anymore, don't have to change anything in the society and, guess what, you get a whole lot of money out of it, because they will need medical help for the rest of their lives. A little bit more time offline and touching some grass would help these women a lot and I agree completely with you, they will never be men and I think, they don't even want to be men, they just want to be taking serious and not be attacked for being a woman.
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>>1881219>>1881185>>1881053I wasn't trying to link lesbians to TIFs, but the way those rebel dykes acted kind of made it seem like they were making fun of men and masculinity but they were totally serious though, and seeing them in their tiny frames and weird leather feitsh outfits trying to act like stereotypical men, just looked silly to me. It reminded me a lot of how most TIFs act.
No. 1881676
>>1879989When I see phalloplasty results on TIFs, I just wonder how the doctors who do this can live with themselves. Do they think it looks acceptable? Do they just not care? How do they feel, when they see the same patients return again and again for revisions due to complications? When they see young women come in, voice scratchy and croaky from T, still so obviously female, small in stature, with their breasts removed and big grins on their faces, giddy as they talk about how excited they are to finally have this operation done… How do they feel anything other than overwhelming guilt and shame? How can they possibly think they're doing the right thing?
I wish everyone who thought of transitioning saw the pictures of "successful" and "unsuccessful" phalloplasties. Because we are going to look back on this as a barbaric time full of twisted doctors trying to play God. Seriously, what the hell are these girls signing themselves up for?
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This feels so melodramatic, this is probably the only thing she has ever expressed dysphoria over and it’s something that no woman likes about being a woman
No. 1881853
>>1881781>we will have another moid killing disease outbreak before longgood, but they're not gonna keep it contained amongst themselves and there might even be lou sullivan 2.0 tifs trying to catch it for muh euphoria
>>1881844>I've chosen to take t and blockers and I'm exhausted that it isn't doing exactly what I want it to>Being trans isn't a choiceWut
No. 1881904
>>1881471As much as I'm for women in everything, there's just something about TiFs where I don't find them to be very sad, usually. They have a tendency to be a type of handmaiden (for TiFs especially which is unforgiveable behavior) and type of pick-me combo, on top of having severe narcissism and other mental health issues that just make them insufferable.
I'm sure I'm not the only one who's known of someone who's taken the dive into T and surgery, but you just can't talk them out of it. They'll try to cancel you if you do, so I just have no sympathy for them pretty much betraying women and their own femininity.
No. 1882001
>>1881471>tifs are naturally feminine, aside from being female even if they troon>the vicious cycle is about beimg juxtaposed with a moid…?
Sorry nona I don't see how it links
No. 1882226
>>1881893Every surgeon I’ve worked with has been a misanthropic asshole who mocked or insulted his patients. I knew a neurosurgeon who’d come running to our office after performing surgery for no reason except to joke with his friends about how ugly his elderly patients looked naked. Other people I know who work with surgeons in other hospitals have similar stories. I can’t even imagine how much worse the gender butchers must be because that field attracts the worst of the worst and the bar is already in hell. Wasn’t
Shiv Sbhgbtg Sidbh Gallagher caught talking shit about patients (in addition to butchering them, advising against proper aftercare and leaving them for dead) or did I imagine that?
>>1881904I’m staring to feel the same way. On one level I sympathise with and want the best for them but on a more personal level I’m so fed up with them. I’ve yet to meet a TIF who isn’t a woman-hating narcissistic bully who’d try to ruin my life if she thought I’m guilty of wrongthink. Transactivism brings out the misogynistic malicious streak in many people who I previously thought were kind and harmless and I simply can’t unsee that. It’s a cult, but that excuse only goes so far.
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There was a discussion about fetishization of gay men by straight girls and obviously it was a matter of time until tif fujo showed up kek.
No. 1882293
>>1882244The only thing that's changed is these straight fujos are now calling themselves mlm queers. Gay fanfic has always been for women.
If you've ever read a fic by an actual gay male it reads much differently. There's no exploration of internal feelings or sappy dialogue, and the sex descriptions focus on body hair and smells and just rawdog fucking lol
No. 1882319
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you might think it's fucked up for me to post discord chat logs, but let me assure you that this tiffany has posted all of this and more completely unprompted and mostly irrelevant to any conversation in a video game's official server for something so. take it as a case study of how all of these people speak and act the exact same way. also, she's a fat pasty 20something who still lives at home.
No. 1882330
>>1882327i agree, but like someone else said they tend to write shittier.
tho i do remember a very prominent straight male writer in my fandom who was a stuck-up piece of shit nerd who was basically there because women sucked his ass since he was one of the only male writers for the fandom.
No. 1882534
>>1882319>a gay transexual? Unusual!kek she wants to be special so bad. Literally 99 of modern tifs are "gay men".
Also, nonita, be careful with sharing chats, the tif might find out you were the one who posted it and chimp out.
No. 1882559
>>1881707>what even fucking counts as a successful phalloplasty?Because it's "gender affirming care" which is done to "prevent suicide", it means that unless they literally die it's considered successful. So if they got 50 infections as half of it rotted and fell off, they have a permanent stoma bag for the rest of their lives, their legs had to be amputated and they went blind but they're still alive - it's still a success because the ONLY thing it had to prevent was death.
Would you rather have an alive trans person with 20 new medically created disabilities, or a dead trans person? They didn't ruin a life, they saved it!
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This is so hypocritical lmao
They always scream and cry that "even men have periods!" "put tampons in men's bathrooms!" "having a period doesn't make you a woman!" then cry about it because they KNOW that period equals women and they throw a tantrum about it because it's not manly enough to have it, hysterical
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Imagine getting your tits chopped off to larp as a male dragqueen
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Based parents.
No. 1882697
>>1882617Nonna, some people aren’t chronically online. As long it doesn’t get reposted endlessly, chill.
>>1882624Based parents and I bet Tiffany refuses to read it because then it would mean realizing how sexist she is
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This has to be the most to be one of the most heterosexual things I have ever seen.
No. 1883077
>>1882961GC spaces have become even more insufferable because the latter group is constantly defended as if they're part of the former. "Detrans" TIFs will quite literally continue to say "I hate women, I think we're weak and overly emotional, all we're good for is being sexualized, fucking, and making babies" in GC spaces, but when you criticize them, they and other supposedly GC women leap on you to scream about what precious
victims the TIFs are, and how they're only saying it because of "dysphoria." It's not "dyphoria" that makes these retards misogynistic, it's (their own) misogyny that makes them "dysphoric."
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OP is a TIF whose post history includes a necrotic nipple top surgery photo and lots of posts about her sex life with another woman.
It's really tragic that she still wants to be seen as male despite being slapped in the face with the real truth of moid nature. Like whyyyy not just be a butch lesbian and help other women?? Why cape for these violent moidlets like this?
No. 1883082
>>1883079Its like telling them why cant they stay alt girls or just the homely nerds because that was what they most likely were before trooning out. Proof troonism is cope.
I'll give my two cents, these girls may not be outright masculine at first, its their comparative lack of femininity that makes them want to go down this path. Otherwise they would be the artistic weird girls of the past.
No. 1883152
>>1881844Didn’t she just have top surgery? I remember her annoying videos of her with crop tank tops, and slutty outfits, seeing what she’s done to herself is actually really sad.
She’s so annoying, but damn. She’s gonna start balding or not be considered “handsome” (kek) and will play
victim for choosing this path. Sad.
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>>1883162>Lesbians, in particular seem to fall for it badly, with dire results.Essentially, many TIFs often end up being at the bottom of the male totem pole when they "pass". people see them as "men" who are short, flabby, pudgy and aren't attractive in any category, and that's why we end up so many lesbian TIFs whose expectations get crushed and instead of realising they made a mistake, they try to claim all men actually feel this way.
>Robin Williams, illustrated as a giant blue Genie, had just finished singing to Aladdin about how he had never had a friend like him. I observed intently, desperate to find a Genie who could make me look like the boy I was on the inside. This was one of my first memories of realizing I was transgender. I was eight years old in the 1990s.>When I enthusiastically started the transition process at 26 years old, I thought I had prepared for all the significant side effects: Acne, sweating, having an enormous appetite, and everything else that comes from testosterone.>The one thing I didn't prepare for was how lonely it is to be a man.>From childhood to adulthood, I had a combination of friendships with men and women. I was able to talk to anyone without reservation. I had a community of people I could call at any moment, and society felt warm to me, too. I thought the world was open to interactions with most people, as long as you were kind.>Then I started my transition.>It wasn't until my voice dropped and my face changed that I felt the wave of my masculinity. First, my friendships became more distant. A few friends faded away because they'd judged my transition, and many women didn't know how to talk to a guy about our regularly discussed topics.>The most depleting were new friendships. It was nearly impossible with women, especially being married, and men. I realized that it would take years to build a semi-deep friendship.>Before transitioning, I didn't receive short pat hugs or shake hands; I got deep, long hugs. I didn't get quick answers about life; I got hour-long conversations. When traveling or running errands, and I saw a parent dealing with an exhausting kid, I could help and not be stared at like a creep.>The way I existed in society was the exact opposite of how I move through it now, and with that comes privilege. I feel safer; I no longer walk around at night clinging to pepper spray. I've had to train myself to move out of women's way before they step aside.>I still get sad at the surprise women have when I move before they do or the joy they get when complimenting their outfits without making it about their bodies. All of the cliche privileges started happening, and if I wasn't holding myself accountable to prevent them, no one else was going to.>And yet, privilege also came with a cost. While I can take up space in most areas, I don't feel like a welcomed and loved part of the community. I started to see my masculinity as the biggest oxymoron. Frankly, it messes with your brain.>As a man, you get to feel safe, but you don't get to be a nurturer or nurtured. You can speak up whenever you want, but not about your emotions, fears, or grief. You have the freedom to do whatever you want whenever you want, as long as that doesn't involve anything feminine, which turns out to be many incredible things, like emotions, intentional parenting, grooming, baking, and so many other activities I've learned are too feminine.
>As a trans man, I spent 26 years of my life allowed to feel my feelings, be masculine and feminine, and have deep friendships, which is a blessing and a curse because I knew the depth of life and what it feels like to lose it.>We exist in a world where men are told their worth comes after women and children, that they cannot be a caretaker or nurturer without losing their masculinity, and that their sadness is not to be talked about. It's as if we're asking men to despise their lives, and then become shocked when they are violent.>Before I transitioned, I had little empathy for men. And while I still hold us to a high standard, I now see the brokenness. The brokenness of masculinity, how isolating it is, and how men don't know how to break the cycle.>Women often are handed the burden of trying to help men with their lack of emotional understanding, and while I don't think that's the solution, I know that isolating men to figure it out on their own won't give us the outcome we all want.>A few months ago, I made a post about this topic that went viral. I posted a reel about the loneliness of being a man. Some took the angle that I'm not a man because I cried, furthering the stereotype that men are not afforded the luxury of being truly human and crying.>And yet hundreds of men reached out, saying they never had the words to express their loneliness.>For me, thankfully, I took back my masculinity years ago. I define, for myself, what being a man means, including rom-coms, crying, loving Taylor Swift, and asking men about their hardships and emotions.>My friendships dramatically changed when I started leaning into being a whole person again, but it has taken years. Years overcoming my insecurities that I'm not man enough, realizing the trap is that you'll never be manly enough, just like women will never be feminine enough. Years unpacking the ways I was trained to hate feminine things.>As a trans man, I empathize and support women in ways men mostly don't, and as a professional speaker, I've learned communication skills to help me connect with others. I'm working to empower other men with these tools because this lack of emotional understanding, communication, and femininity leads to violence and anger.>If I could advise men, it would be first to look inward. Before reaching out to women for support, understand that this is about your friendship with yourself and how you accept your emotions, fears, and femininity. Whether you journal, go to therapy, or work through it mentally, find a way to be safe in your skin as a whole person. A person who cries, feels joy, and can embrace all aspects of themselves. Read books on healing your emotions, finding ways to communicate your needs, and understanding your feelings.>I cannot stress enough how important it is to learn how to communicate effectively. Communication is one of the greatest gifts society gives women. The allowance to talk to friends for hours about life's highs and lows, tell stories full of vulnerability and cry, and be held by your friends.>I've seen the world through many lenses, and the most profound moments have been with people who fully see and love me; that takes vulnerability and trust. Focus your time on learning how to be vulnerable, build intentional and meaningful friendships, and heal your relationship with what it means to be feminine.>Lastly, for those who are not men, while it is not your responsibility to heal men, I ask you to stretch your idea of masculinity. Hundreds of men reached out to me, saying they try to cry in front of the women in their lives or try to be nurturing, and they remind them to "man up" or that it makes them uncomfortable.>These moments have unimaginable ripple effects. We cannot have a world of healthy, kind, and strong men if we stick to broken stereotypes. I learned as a kid that no Genie will magically come along. No. 1883534
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>>1883318I think there may be a particular thing with butch lesbians and why they might troon out. Despite any misandrist feelings they may have, they may really do envy men and fetishize them, not sexually but in their roles. They may want to be the good-looking boy that girls swoon over or the reliable, strong man who can protect a woman. This is a fantasy for them, so they may think that by becoming trans, they will attain that status and strength. However, they don't realize that their bodies don't allow that, and they may end up becoming a worse version of themselves.
No. 1883537
>>1883318>"Men don't get nutured or hugged or allowed to cry (sadface)">"Men are sooo lonely, and that's everyone else's (women's) fault!">"Privilege comes at a cost for the privileged…people (women) don't love moids enough, no one opens doors for them!">"I know all this because, as a mentally ill GNC woman, my experiences are the same as men's"Anyways, men are 90% of all violent criminals and 99% of all non-prostitution sexual offenders, even in a judicial system that is heavily biased in favor of lenience towards them and hostility towards women. They're also known for elevated rates of antisocial behaviors, such as narcissism. It would be natural, or even good, if people treated men as pariahs because of this, but the average moid absolutely doesn't face social death like this woman has, they just
think that they do because they don't get everything they want at all times.
"Men are so sad and so lonely" is a moid-fabricated psyop with the intent of making women more available to men. If they actually had issues, men would start supporting each other more.
No. 1883635
>>1883567>>1883565This is why people like this say things like "male sexual assault
victims don't report it, because it hurts their pride, and they know people won't believe them," too. As if women don't feel all those same things, if not even more deeply than men do (as a result of female persecution and internalized misogyny). They act like the internal world of males is divine, and the internal world of women and girls doesn't exist, or at least that it's "more shallow" than men's.
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>>1883567>>1883635This is why we never see socially rejected TIFs(the terminally online fujo types like vidrel) engaging in MRA rhetoric. It's because they were already introverted rejects. On the other hand, butch lesbians who transition and "pass" end up experiencing being a loser. This is not a male experience that they feel in their lives, it's an experience that everyone feels when they don't fit in and instead of realising it, they form this weird empathy with men that they men didn't even ask for.
No. 1883681
>>1883672I thought this 40-something year old granola mom was trolling, but holy shit she actually committed and got the tit chop.
even with the pube stache you can see she’s incredibly beautiful. she must have gotten a lot of attention for being stereotypically hot, 10-20 years ago. and prob can’t cope with how society discards women once they show any sign of age.
blogpost, but i’m always thankful that I didn’t grow up being effortlessly thin and traditionally attractive, because i think that would make aging that much more scary. to know that all your worth is based on your looks and your appearance and at a certain age, people just value you less and less every year you get older. scary.
No. 1883682
>>1883318>many women didn't know how to talk to a guy about our regularly discussed topics.Bold of her to assume they now saw her as a guy rather than the mentally ill woman she is
>Before transitioning, I didn't receive short pat hugs or shake hands; I got deep, long hugs. I didn't get quick answers about life; I got hour-long conversations.Again, she assumes all these things are because she's now seen as a guy, rather than people knowing she's deeply mentally ill and being off put by that.
>As a man, you get to feel safe, but you don't get to be a nurturer or nurtured.Maybe that is because real men require less nuture and are less inclined to become nurturers in those female specific ways she desires it. Just as an example, roughhousing is typically needed for boys play for them to develop properly, keeping them from it can literally stunt their development, so nurturing a boy is letting him be rough with other boys rather than sitting and hugging him. But she as a female desires the female parts of nurture and she wants the long hugs so she doesn't get it.
>We exist in a world where men are told their worth comes after women and childrenlmao bitch where?! she trooned out because she hated being seen as a weak boring woman, always feelign unsafe and clinging to pepper spray - and then naturally changes the narrative to men being the
victims so she can still be the
victim even after trooning out. I think she's just incapable of not seeing herself as a poor
victim that society is against.
No. 1883701
>>1883672Too bad testosterone isn't going to de-age her 20 years, more like the opposite.
>>1883698My original peak trans was reading the blog of an extremely misogynistic lesbian TIF who was parrotting MRA talking points. They may be rare but they do exist.
No. 1883729
>>1882624Is it worth reading?
Because the subtitle is awful and reads as a dumbed down populist facebook-group-level conspiracy cry, I mean:
>craze>seducing>our daughters the last especially makes me think it is a republican funded story for conservatives (male ones - our daughters instead of women) to gasp to
No. 1883881
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>>1883877Testosterone ages you by a decade.
No. 1883890
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>>1883881i had to look her up. christ, she is so embarrassing and narcissistic. she clearly thinks she's as attractive as all the men in this collage. she wouldn't have just picked 5 random ugly nerds with long hair. nope, it had to be male models, and she's totally the same as them!
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>>1883890also one of those very typical "wants to have her cake and eat it too" tifs. she's totally a manly man like those male models, but experiences misogyny and doesn't have male privilege.
i didn't see any mention of her being 28 though. it seems like she's older from her profile.
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>>1883876No she's not anon her real name is kristen nedopak and she's 46
No. 1883895
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>>1883537>>1883318Many women, including butch lesbians, don't realize how damn violent men can be to each other, they can't comprehend the level of causal violence they perpetrate with their own friends and especially against supposedly "weaker men" that TIFs who pass come across as.
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>>1883569Anon, you can't be serious she looks like a tif caricature of a gay man who got bullied in high school for being a theatre kid
No. 1884038
>>1883895While it's sad that happened, if she as an adult female was already not aware of the threat of moid tard rage and had to be attacked to even think of it, she must have been very sheltered with only anime men for company.
>I'm glad my friend wasn't hurt, I swear! I'm just jealous that she wasn't!Don't moids go for other moids only because they want to take out the bigger threat, and not that they're uwu sparing the precious women? Unfortunately if the tif was more obviously female then the attacker might have hurt both her and her friend. Yet she's delusionally thinking that being female would've saved her? Don't tifs troon out to avoid being female anyway? Trying to unravel their ways of thinking is just confusing.
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>>1883893the pandemic did incomprehensible emotional and mental damage on the population
No. 1884244
>>1884038The part where she snivels about how none of this would have happened if she was more clearly female rather than "male passing" bothered me, too. If they were both equally as visibly female, this probably would have been a lot worse, at least in the long run. He might not have assaulted them then and there, but there's no way he would have just left them alone, if he was willing to throw what he perceived as another moid around like that (if we are to assume he actually saw her as a man, and that he didn't just choose to beat her up for being the more GNC woman of the two).
But TIFs are usually desperate to pretend that their transition wasn't fueled by misogyny and cowardice, deeply involved in romanticizing men, or both, so they'll more than happily eat up retarded talking points about how men are victimized by society/the patriarchy in a way that's either comparable to the victimization of women, or at least "worth bringing up" despite their privilege. Admitting these sorts of things are blatantly untrue would, at the very least, put some cracks in the validity of their whole approach to gender.
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>>1883893I really would like to know what broke this woman. It's obvious she was a feminist trying to help other women in nerdier spaces. Usually people above the age of 35 are also a little smarter and can see what these trans science experiments actually are.
How is that not some kind of form of internalized misogyny? Did she play a bunch of Genshin during covid or something, roll on Diluc, and think she was him? It's frightening watching older people lose their sense of self and succumb to this. I kind of wonder if maybe she's on the spectrum or something, considering her hobbies.
>>1883681https://www.gofundme.com/f/top-surgery-for-trans-faerie-prince-kaedyn"Kaedyn" didn't get funded here, but sadly somehow got her top surgery anyway. Apparently her previous life as Kristen is still up on Youtube and she was into fairies and tarot. Does she think she'll become the goffick dark knight elven prince of her dreams? Delusional.
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So what’s the point then? These people always go on about how they don’t feel comfortable with men but then how are they identifying as men?
No. 1884324
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>>1879653here's her in motion and what she sounds like.
No. 1884337
>>1884286It's funny how they're so comfortable pointing out that there is something fundamentally different between themselves and "cis" men even when/if they pass, but don't you terfs fucking dare suggest transmen or transwomen aren't exactly the same as all other men and women you bigots
Proves that they KNOW they're not the same, they're all just lying when telling others to shut up about it. Rules for thee, but not for me.
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>>1884324>her voicefuckkkkk nonnas
No. 1884356
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>>1884281she explained it another comment.
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>>1884363>>1884109I feel like that's common with siblings and close cousins before puberty, I wrestled and fought with my brothers, then we grew up and didn't fight anymore and if we did, he could probably hurt me badly.
No. 1884376
>>1884366He was a stranger but yeah. It makes me wonder; did TIFs have these experiences? I always see TIFs as being hyper feminine before trooning out; the majority, anyway. It's so fascinating to me.
>>1884356>NO YOU GOT IT ALL WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!>explains the same story again, but less comprehensible >oh and he apologizedSo why is she afraid of him again? Because he's a large man? Uhhh just man up bro, share a beer with him.
No. 1884400
>>1884394kek "frog voice" made me laugh
>>1883806Don't know wtf
nonnie is talking about, roughhousing is beneficial to both girls and boys. It's actually a type of sociodramatic play (you can look it up for more examples) and it helps develop social and language skills, as well as teach children how to self-regulate and get more in touch with their bodies.
No. 1884446
>>1884424When you get down to it, the fundamentals of how they view sex, gender, and all the associated politics are all very arbitrary and nonsensical.
>>1884435What's interesting is that the term "cis" doesn't appear at all in the comment she replied to, let alone being used to label her. I wonder what sort of mental dysfunction led to her imagining she was being labeled a "cis douchebag," as opposed to just a douchebag with no other descriptors?
No. 1884460
>>1884361I'm an immigrant in bongland, and although I'm pretty good at deciphering the language here, this TIFs posts are pure gibberish. Like
>>1884395 said it's very teenage girl sounding. I think she's just a dumbass. I mean, she did go into a party full of heavy drinking moids she didn't know with her female companion. Quite frankly, she got off lucky with
just physical violence. Tbh the aggression in that reply makes me think she did run her mouth a bit. The true and honest boy doth protest too much.
>>1884435I love how that reply didn't mention cis or trans at all and even though the original post mentioned that she's trans she still had to be like "ACKSHULLY I'M TRANS SO OBVS NOT A DOUCHEBAG? WOW YOU CAN'T READ" like calm down sis you're like one of those yappy lil dogs, all bark and no bite.
No. 1884546
>>1884446Not only did the person not call her cis, but the post is in the ftm subreddit, so would make zero sense to not assume she was a tif even if she didn't explicitly state it in her long, rambling story. Wondering if the word "douche" reminded her she has a vagina and
triggered her into hallucinating a whole other response kek
No. 1884553
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She realizes she's super straight, but I'm willing to bet she's still going to insist gays be open to the opposite sex
No. 1884568
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>>1883957There's also surgery for it. Because of course there is. These people are walking dollar signs to shady plastic surgeons everywhere.
No. 1884903
>>1884770Some kind of troon is mad, probably a TiF or TiM that's upset knowing that even their pharmacist thinks they're mentally ill science experiments. She's done nothing wrong but have a very normal moral dilemma.
If you're reading troons, it were me, I'd sugarpill the testosterone. If I'd get caught, I wouldn't even care. I bet the populace would be on my side, anyway. I bet even the courts would be on my side at this point. Nobody likes trannies.
No. 1884941
>>1884553>I pass>I’m stealth>no man that I’ve ever met sees me as anything other than a womanWords really have no meaning anymore. Passing is supposed to mean passing as the opposite sex without anyone noticing that you’re trans, but nowadays it’s pretty universally used to mean “everyone can tell I’m trans and humours my delusions out of pity, politeness and/or fear”. Stealth in this context is supposed to mean
truly passing as someone who was born the sex they’re trying to imitate and often means moving and cutting contact with anyone who knew them pre-transition (which is why it would make detransitioning more difficult) but if she gets clocked by every man she knows she clearly isn’t remotely stealth. Considering how bad men are at clocking trans people, I’m sure she doesn’t fool any of the women she meets either, they’re just more willing to play along. So what the hell is she talking about?
No. 1885012
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the humanities need to be destroyed
No. 1885014
>>1885012Jesus christ is this what PhDs and academics are writing about? Academia truly is an embarrassment. Was reading irreversible damage and apparently journalists have the authority to silence studies snd information that "could potentially be used to oppress people". That goes entirely against the principles science should have. And apparently that authority only applies to trans people snd no other group. Studies to transplant wombs, abuse brain dead womens' bodies, studies that try to prove homosexuality isn't an inborn trait? Those all could lead to abuse but are all totally fine. But just
one study that seeks to provide a treatment different to the ones troons demand? Literal genocide! God this pisses me off so much. Censoring data is unethical.
No. 1885075
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>>1883672>>1883821>>1884239what the fuck, i'm not surprised by most of the shit i see on the internet but the contrast was so jarring. it's so ridiculous and sad that a middle-aged woman would lose her time and resources trying to look like an anime boy.
>>1883681 is right, TIF's obsession with bishounen and twinks always gave me the impression it was a roundabout way to cling to childhood or youth but now i'm convinced.
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No. 1885086
>>1885069I've read a theory about how short women feel more vulnerable in the world so short tifs hope to get some "power" from larpig as men.
Also, are truetrans tifs taller that the "average" inclusive ones? I always thought the only reason why most tifs are not "truescums" is because they understand that they physically can't larp as men successfully enough.
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Tifs give me such a weird uncanny Walley feeling. Extremely neotenous face with big eyes and tiny chin and a fucking pube beard. The only thing that is worse is when a tif has a "passing" male-like face and then you see her tiny hands next to it.
No. 1885119
>>1883759>Abigail Shrier is not conservativeShe's literally a fan of professional clown Chris Rufo and has contributed to PragerU. Let's not kid ourselves here.
I suggest "Trans" by Helen Joyce.
No. 1885122
>>1883729The author's main issue with girls trooning seemed to be that they'd be infertile and unable to breastfeed
It wasn't in your face conservative but it was conservative enough to make me uncomfortable
No. 1885124
>>1885086This in combination with the fact that women are, on average, shorter than men. The difference in height between the sexes, psychologically speaking, reinforces perceptions of physical power inequality. Basically, it serves as a visual reminder of their vulnerability to potential male chimp-outs.
Also, people who grow up with disordered eating, or
especially full on eating disorders, have stunted growth. That doesn't apply to all of them, obviously, but autism (commonly associated with disordered eating) and eating disorders are both common comorbidities with sex-based dysmorphia.
No. 1885143
>>1885122>>1885119The subtitle of the book ("The Transgender Craze
Seducing Our Daughters") combined with the image of a little girl with a hole punched through her center, as if removing the womb is removing everything from that space, always felt very suspicious to me. I know taking the uterus out arbitrarily is very destructive to the health and bodily integrity of women (not as "baby makers," but as human beings), but something about the presentation screamed "I think sexual purity and baby-making are the most important parts of female existence." Most of the people I've seen who own it are concerned parents who are searching for information on why their daughters suddenly seem so self-destructive, and don't know where else to look.
Better books on this matter need to be proliferated more. If they don't exist, they need to be written. The topic is important, and the acknowledgement and assessment of the existence of ROGD is valuable, but the motivations and views of the author seem skewed towards misogyny. We cannot afford to allow conservatives to lead the conversation about the harms of transgenderism, as they don't actually dislike gender, and they certainly don't care about women or girls, let alone gay, autistic, or GNC ones.
No. 1885162
>>1885119she's a hero by helping teen girls avoid hormones and the chop at the cost of her reputation, you guys bickering about her exact political allegiance is beyond stupid.
helen joyce is also arguably conservative-adjacent (interviewed by peterson) and she's just as courageous as shrier. those women are incredible.
No. 1885366
>>1885239The problem isn't the fact that fertility issues are mentioned (because that
is concerning), the problem is that it's a thoroughly ineffecient point to make if you're actually hoping to convince TIFs to stop self-harming through transition. Despite that, it's what many people seem to focus on, and it makes it clear that they don't actually care about these girls, outside of the context of their potential "use" in reproduction or pleasuring men.
It's like how doctors who try to motivate anorexic girls by telling them they'll develop boobs/asses or get their periods/fertility back just further motivate them to remain anorexic. They largely don't want those things, and focusing on them shows a lack of respect and empathy. It's objectifying and alienating. You have to focus on what motivates the
victims now, rather than what you think they should care about, or what they may or may not care about in two decades.
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so male
No. 1885432
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Why do they all say "My guy"?
No. 1885447
>>1885366For me the thing about fertility is that I cannot stop thinking if there is a eugenetic psyop to eliminate homosexuals, autistic and mentally ill women(and moids
I guess) from the genepool with those surgeries.
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Saged for no real milk, just came across this Twitter profile in the wild and she's basically a full FTM Bingo card in one person.
>zippertits
>calls self fag
>but also dyke
>disabled
>poly
>dangerhair
No. 1885495
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>>1885012Everything about this and your pic is so ridiculous it reads like olympic level bait, but of course it's real
No. 1885537
>>1885531What the fuck are you talking about, moid?
>85% of women are mothersKek. If that were even remotely true I'd see children spilling out of stores and on the streets everywhere. Sorry you're mad we have a choice to not have kids and we don't want to carry on your worthless spawn.
(infighting) No. 1885559
>>1885537The XY's reproductive anxiety has been
triggered kek.
No. 1885579
>>1885576I always wonder the same thing when I see women older than me essentially larping their anime boy identity. Like, how could they fall for it. It's like
>>1883672 types, just bizarre. Though cases like them seem to be social contagion between people who never grew up or care too much about the fandom space vs their real life.
No. 1885581
>>1885559"Childfree girlie" was just such troonish language you out yourselves as male the moment you post kek. You will never be a woman and you will never have kids.
>>1885576Is this a trend happening or something? I'm starting to see more of it and according to that Kaedyn troon, there's a group of younger TiFs on TikTok getting mentally ill middle aged women into it. It's like some kind of backwards grooming going on and just proves how cultish the tranny cult really is.
No. 1885585
>>1885581>"Childfree girlie" was just such troonish languageI agree but some chronically online zoomer girls talk like that too, they think because they don't want kids at like 21 that means they are super unique and special and will totally never change their mind on it. Like yeah if you call yourself a "girlie" as an adult you're obviously immature as all hell and shouldn't have a kid so I'm glad you don't want one kek
>>1885581>there's a group of younger TiFs on TikTok getting mentally ill middle aged women into it.That's how you know the trans trend is truly dying, when the adults start doing it the thing stops becoming cool and is now cringe. Soon being trans is going to be something only your super embarrassing mom and weird uncle does.
No. 1885586
>>1885576Women around 30 are millennials, who spearheaded the trans cult, so it's not unusual. I suspect Gen Alpha will reject trans as an uncool old person fad like
>>1885585 said. Gen Z is still fucked, unfortunately.
No. 1885595
>>1885586Gen A is rejecting a lot of specifically the newspeak language like "cis", "snowflakes", and "
triggered" a lot. I've seen some of it on TikTok. It's good for everyone they're uncool. As the butchered trannies age out, nobody is going to want to be one because they're all going to look like old goblins and orcs and their bodies will be falling apart by then. It also doesn't help trannies case that we're seeing a small wave of detransitioners, so there's horror story detrans stories coming out.
Millennials and Gen Z didn't have those when they started, in fact, most people didn't know what a "trans person" was when they started. They had no pushback early on, so when people said they were going to become a pretty anime boy or a lesbian anime girl, their friend groups would unironically cheer on their attempts at becoming a 2D cartoon character. They're going to be the laughing stock to these kids as they get older.
No. 1885597
>>1885483>>1885583I'm in support of bans on the more dangerous and exploitative things like medicalization, but the "just call them crazy and have authority figures take complete control over their lives" strategy is extremely counterproductive, because almost all of the girls doing this are doing it explicitly in hopes of gaining some sense of agency. It would be like responding to a rise in suicide by making suicide illegal, stripping them of their rights until they promise you that they'll never kill themselves, and doing nothing else for them. That sort of treatment just makes the underlying issues worse, and causes those affected to lose all trust in those who tried to "help" them.
You can't help someone when they don't want your help, and forcing your views on them with absolutely no regard for their wants or needs is a surefire way to make them not want anything to do with you or your "help," and it also makes them more resistant to the kind of help that would actually benefit them. This is how you get TIFs who completely cut off from their support networks and are willing to use shady DIY bathtub HRT, not healthy desisters.
No. 1885643
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>>1885597they are not crazy, they are just teens who are being preyed on, just like those who fall prey to pedos, and i think women like shrier would agree on that.
not only would bans on hormones and surgeries for children discourage a good portion of teenage TIFs and give the rest at least a few years to think before they're 18, they are absolutely necessary for the overton window to progress.
when we're in a climate where the way to rebel and find agency isn't chopping your breasts off anymore things will be WAY better.
No. 1885644
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>>1884782>literal toddlers on antidepressants We need another flood
No. 1885667
>>1885597>"just call them crazy and have authority figures take complete control over their lives" Nobody says this. You really have no idea what's going on in the wider gender critical word in regards to how to deal with troon kids. Is the only place you follow this stuff here? And I feel you are projecting some shit you went through onto this situation. And you can't make testosterone in a bathtub. That's only for Estrogen. So if doctors stop prescribing it, TIFs won't get it, unless they buy it illegally, which most of them aren't going to do. Genspect is the gc group that handles the "When your kid goes trans, what the fuck do you do?" situation and "Come down on them like the hammer of god." is not what they suggest.
>>1885600>she thinks that furries are literally a kind of trannies kekThere is a overlap between Tims and furries because most male troons don't have just one paraphilia.
No. 1885670
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>>1885600You're probably right, but a lot of otherkin types do talk about their animal identity and their gender identity as being intertwined, picrel
No. 1885690
>>1885643This. I’m one of those autistic women who most likely would’ve identified as trans or nonbinary as a teen if that had been a thing back then, and the fact that becoming a boy or magical genderless being simply isn’t physically possible is what allowed me to grow out of that desire and come to terms with my body. If there had been adult authority figures in my life telling me that it WAS possible and safe (and
valid! and brave!) to do those things then I 100% would’ve pursued getting puberty blockers or a double mastectomy. Regardless of what motivates these kids, it’s insane that adults and institutions are enabling and encouraging it. The responsibility lies with the people who should know better. There will always be distressed kids out there but the vast majority of current day “trans kids” and young adults would’ve grown out of it if they hadn’t been fast-tracked into transitioning by adults with an agenda.
No. 1885823
>>1885736Nayrt but I'd argue most humans want to become parents after a certain age, though most women don't want to live out societal "motherhood" or are pushed it as their only option in life which fucks the conversation up.
Also wanting to be a mother =/= wanting to pump out 14 kids in 15 years. People with a passion for parenting and any level of intelligence usually stick with a manageable number of kids meanwhile its the "kids are tools/a sex inevitability" crowd with more kids
No. 1885869
>>1885823i blame tradtards and their constant baby pushing (+invalidating women who don't want kids as defective) making some nonnies think wanting to be a mother is somehow unnatural or a result of socialization. it's innate but of course it's not for all women nor should any woman feel pressured into it. i'm in college and most young women i've talked to have expressed a desire to have kids someday… some were shocked when i said i didn't feel the same. because it's more common to want kids someday rather than not. some people might be projecting their own negative experiences onto this and assuming everyone feels that way. a trait common in all living things is reproducing, like i said before it's innate, maybe due to humans' cognizance it's just not innate in every person. i'm not gonna deny biology and pretend it's unnatural or bad for women to want children, denying biology is what trannies do.
i think the importance of keeping young women from trooning out isn't because OMG she MUST have babies! it's more that young women don't deserve the right to have babies (if she so chooses one day) stripped from them before they are even ready to think about it under the guise of "gender confirmation". i'm fairly certain no farmers think women need to be treated as incubators, more that reproductive rights should include this group of vulnerable girls not being given the idea (by doctors) to remove their uteruses so young. and i may be wrong but aren't there other consequences like hormonal imbalances that could decrease a woman's quality of life getting an elective hysto? messing with hormones is no joke.
(sage your shit) No. 1886149
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>Found TIF drawn porn
>The character have men proportions but chest scars and pussy.
I know that there are cases of women with big shoulders and all, but you can see these artist do not want to use female proportions because… dysphoria? not male enough?
No. 1886152
>>1886102What they expect: Free shit without moving a hand.
What they would have gotten: Into the gulag for being homosexuals and lazy pieces of shit.
No. 1886167
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Why do all tifs have weird fetishes? Piss stuff? Wtf
No. 1886202
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>>1886200Anon said it best.
No. 1886208
>>1886205When women have rights, they're less likely to have kids with
abusive, pedophilic, mentally ill or autistic men. If anything women being more picky and having less kids will be a positive in the future lifes of the kids we have.
>>1886188Yes I believe the testosterone and self hatred are the roots of their fetishes.
No. 1886216
>>1886205you’re a fucking retard
nonnie, respectfully. sage for no1curr but i studied environmental systems thoroughly and animals don’t just magically have an instinct to stop reproducing when there’s overpopulation, it’s called a predator prey cycle. look it up before spewing this bullshit
No. 1886219
>>1886216I looked it up, kiddo. You sound like the one going "I'm a biologist, and I can confirm that transwomen are women".
You may like to deny reality, nature and biology just like TRAs do, but I'm not like that. Declining birth rates happen because of overpopulation. Let me assure that if human beings started dropping dead by the thousands like flies, all of a sudden every woman would churn out babies.
No. 1886262
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Just a normal day on tumblr dot com
No. 1886634
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Sis just grow a fucking spine instead of letting gendies crybully you over semantics. She was completely fine to clown on RCTA in her video (race change to another, it's a rebrand of transrace) but doesn't see that trannies are the same level of idiocy.
No. 1886938
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>It was in an idyllic Canadian mountain town, surrounded by jagged, imposing peaks, that the conflicting facets of Trevor MacDonald’s identity came crashing together.
>MacDonald, soft-spoken and sporting a wispy goatee, was breastfeeding his first child at the time. He and his partner had splashed on a lavish dinner, baby in tow. When his son began fussing, MacDonald eyed the waitstaff and patrons wandering about in formal attire and thought it best to head to the restroom.
>It was there, holding his fussing son, that he was struck by the incongruity of nursing a child in a men’s bathroom. “It was this weird scenario,” says MacDonald, who was born female and began transitioning some eight years ago. “I’ve felt pressured to nurse in bathrooms because of the supposed lewdness of feeding a baby from my body. I’m also told that my body and gender don’t fit into the neatly divided men’s and women’s restrooms of western society. People like me are told to keep out.”
>In Canada MacDonald is seeking to broaden the conversation, sharing his own experience as a transgender man who carried two babies to term and breastfed both of them. His recently published memoir, Where’s the Mother: Stories of a Transgender Dad, aims to shed light on gender diversity in parents through his story of being both male and pregnant.
>Some 12 weeks into the pregnancy, he shared the news with his co-workers. “There were people who immediately began calling me ‘mom’ and ‘she,’” says MacDonald. One person told him simply: “If you’re giving birth, you’re a mother.”
>MacDonald disagrees. While many wouldn’t hesitate to describe childbearing as a female experience, carrying a baby never felt gendered to him.
>To his delight, neither did breastfeeding. Despite his chest surgery, he was able to breastfeed – or chestfeed – both of his children, now aged five and 18 months, using a combination of his own milk and donated milk from a community that ranged from a military family to Mormons. “I was worried that breastfeeding might feel gendered to me – I thought, am I going to be able to do that, or am I going to experience a lot of gender dysphoria?”
>MacDonald became an ardent fan of breastfeeding, leaving him with mixed emotions about his chest surgery. While the surgery had helped propel him to a place where he felt comfortable in his own skin, it now hindered his ability to feed his children.
>He soon found himself inundated with questions from around the world; from transgender people eager to start their own family to healthcare workers keen on providing better care for transgender people. Wary of generalising too much from his own experience, MacDonald began working with a research team to design and produce a series of research papers, funded by the Canadian Institutes of Health Research, that aim to draw parallels among the experiences of pregnancy, birth and infant feeding of 22 transgender men from around the world.
>The groundbreaking research has already revealed some interesting findings, he says. Of the nine men in the study who had had chest surgery prior to becoming pregnant, not one had raised the possibility of breastfeeding with their surgeons beforehand. “There is this assumption that goes along with the ‘born in the wrong body’ narrative, that if you are a trans guy you would want a hysterectomy and never use your body to carry a pregnancy,” says MacDonald.
>One participant in the study said he had actively withheld his desire to have children from his surgeon, worried that any questions about breastfeeding would hamper his chances of obtaining the surgery.
>While the diapers, bottles and sleepless nights of parenthood are universal – “a baby doesn’t know what your pronouns are,” he says – the study also seeks to highlight the additional barriers transgender parents often face in navigating healthcare systems unfamiliar with their needs.
No. 1886945
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>>1886938Trevor McDonald?
Did she name herself after sir Trevor McDonald?
No. 1886948
>>1886938Pretty sure if your nipples rot off like
>>1886262 you'll never be able to breastfeed. Getting mutilated means rolling the dice. I also love how the only time TiFs get talked about in mainstream media is when they're fulfilling their womanly female duty of birthing children.
No. 1886955
>>1885903I don't think you could get a glucose monitor and insulin pump without being diabetic, that'd be pretty hard to fake and unaffordable without insurance coverage.
That said I've noticed a weird amount of diabetic girls trooning out. An ex girlfriend of mine who has it became a he/they recently and now I see it everywhere. Not sure if it's the yellow car phenomenon or if having a serious medical problem increases body dysmorphia or what.
No. 1886967
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This girl is one of the weirdest coomer tifs
No. 1886993
>>1886948TIMs are make the front page when they win awards or reach the top of their career. TIFs make the front page when they give birth or do porn.
Or kill someone.
No. 1887032
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So you agree? That this all is an autism and you have never "felt" gender?
No. 1887077
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(saged because personal irl cow) but this heterosexual woman who calls herself a gay man got "hate crimed" (called a faggot) and her reaction was laughing. do these girlies never think to question why actual gay men don't laugh in these situations? it's like how male troons always gush about how great being cat-called is.
No. 1887107
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>>1887077well fuck you too. now she's gone private and i can't stalk her any more
No. 1887128
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>>1887077Always think of picrel whenever these people start talking about "getting hatecrimed" (although I guess in this case she didn't even hate it kek)
No. 1887143
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>>1887107>>1887126idk how people can lurk on here and not be peaked. I was a handmaiden keeping up with onision drama and I finally saw a place that validated all the weird feelings I had about troons… and here I am, proud
terfwatch the girl who posted the screenshot detransition in a year or less kek
No. 1887321
>>1887143Blog but I got to watch LC gradually peak collectively. The culture of the board was more ambivalent towards trannies early on, back when most farmers' exposure to it was as a fad among teenagers on Tumblr. It began as the GC threads in /ot/ and eventually it spread from there. Over the years, trannies' behavior got increasingly audacious, and I think that's what caused anons' opinions on them to sour to the point of starting the GC threads. I've said this before, but fear and ignorance are the only reasons the trans movement has managed to make any gains. They constantly shoot themselves in the foot by doing things that would alienate normal people, but they get by on a combination of the public myth that trannies are all "harmless" HSTSes (a myth that exists mainly because of TRAs' parasitic attachment to the LGB), and instilling in people a fear that they'll be "on the wrong side of history" or even risk being fired if they don't roll over and give in to every ridiculous demand.
>>1887109Hate-reading can sometimes be the catalyst for peaking, especially if the reader is a handmaiden and not a TiF herself.
No. 1887419
>>1887338i don't see any fault complaining about that, the guy was obviously reminding her that she as a woman could always be
victim of that kind of male violence and that can be kind of traumatic thing for a woman, to be reminded what position we are in in this world.
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>>1887032>>1887318the thing she's talking about isn't even true in the way people think about it lmao. it has nothing to do with the atoms perceiving you observing them, that's the popular misconception. it's the horrid hormone-ruined voice with her stupid "awtism" headphones talking so confidently about literal magic as if it's science for me. sorry for OT sperging but it really bothers me when people regurgitate shit like that without doing any research for themselves
No. 1887469
>>1887223it's funny because everyone at work despises her lazy ass and our manager is not going to give a shit if she does complain, other than some shallow "oh no you poor thing" commiserations. we've been trying to give her the hint that we want her to leave for ages (she's one of those super lazy workers who just plays on her phone all shift), and she just doesn't get it. we had her dressed up in a hotdog costume standing outside to lure people into the cinema and she still didn't get that we just wanted her out of the room. every fucking conversation with her is about how much of a fag she is, how queer and quirky she is, etc. she has zero personality outside of how much she wants to be a gay man.
sorry to blogpost all over the thread but if i don't lance the poison somewhere i'll go crazy irl and probably end up on the news kek
No. 1887482
>>1887469I know how you feel, nona. Had a TIF coworker at my old work who was just like that, always talking about what a faggy queer homo she is. Me and her argued quite a bit because I'm butch and, basically, I mogged her and got called by male pronouns more than she ever did, kek. She even complained about my Slytherin stuff on my desk that was a gift from my lil sister (not a HP fan, she made me take the quiz) because it made her feel "uncomfortable". One moment she's talking like she was literally there at Stonewall fighting the cops. Then the next minute my silly little wizard pen is
triggering her, lmao. Praying you keep your job and the TIF takes the hint and quits.
No. 1887496
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>>1887469>TIF in a hotdog costumeKEK
No. 1887523
>>1887321Same here. Call me cringe but I’m kind of proud of my contributions to the /ot/ GC thread back in the day because I think I helped to peak a fair number of people. It kind of served as a refuge as well because back then many farmers still believed in “trutrans”. Isn’t it awful how Laineybot fakes being trans for attention?! She’s making life more difficult for REAL trans people!!
>>1887506The fakeboi thread was like 90% fakebois posting other fakebois. There are still hatereading TIFs here now (hi girls!) but back then I’m sure they made up the vast majority of posters, picking on other girls in their own community for being poseurs.
No. 1887529
>>1887482kek i always love the juxtaposition between "trannies were at the forefront of every civil rights movement, ACAB, kill a
terf!!!" and then shaking and crying and calling the police over a 5yo dressed as hermione granger for world book day or whatever.
No. 1887646
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Picrel in response to a post about afab nonbinary ppl who dress in hyper-femme outfits…we ngmi
No. 1887684
>>1887646>>1887670That plus "mommy forced me into girly outfits through my childhood and so I feel a certain way about them and feel deeply uncomfortable when I like a girly outfit myself because I flashback to when it wasn't a choice". Those moms tended to be super strict on always girly, but not slutty or you'll be evil and tempt the boys.
Except she isn't a girl, she's an adult woman now and could make these decisions herself even if the right was taken away as a child. The disconnect or "dysphoria" here is unresolved issues surrounding her life as a young girl.
No. 1887792
>>1887482I once tried to reason with a tif by telling her she can't give me shit for being a potterhead when she herself is a FNAF fan (Scott Cawthon is far-right, pro-life pro-trump and all that jazz) as it would be hypocritical. She didn't even know how to reply and got sour with me ever since.
The same tif is now trying to deplatform me (i'm a social media artfag) and telling my followers and friends to ditch me by claiming i'm
toxic because i disagree with her anime ships and her opinions on some edgy game, actual karen behaviour (i only have like 40 followers, chill bitch)
On tumblr there have been numerous radfems pointing out how Rowling haters will dickride Stephen King despite him sexualizing children, and troons just ignore that point.
Aydens are just brats who will throw fits when you don't do everything the way they want it. I don't understand how someone who's at the bottom of the social totem pole can be so entitled…
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>>1887077Of course she would laugh at being called faggot. Homophobic pricks would have beaten the Hell outta her if she was a real gay man.
No. 1888011
>>1888008yeah these are the fakebois that idolize feminine gay men and want to be "boundary-pushing boys wearing dresses breaking the rules of society" rather than boring straight girls wearing dresses exactly how society expects (what they really are)
they're a different group than the traumatized tifs who don't want to be sexualized. these tifs want to be sexualized as men. but still have boobs because they have literally no dysphoria, just heavy doses of gay male worship and misogyny
No. 1888021
>>1887792wow, i'm very online but i had never heard once that the creator of FNAF was '
problematic'. not a single time. but every other day you hear about how J. K. Rowling is the worst person on Earth and you shouldn't be a fan of Harry Potter anymore.
this goes to show that women are much more scrutinized than men, and we forgive men more easily when they have "wrong" opinions. tell me this isn't misogyny…
No. 1888036
>>1887792AYRT, I think TIFs in particular gloss over Stephen King being a total weirdo because of that super popular IT ship with the two uggos. I also tried telling the TIF at my work that it's ridiculous to only consume content by creators you agree with, and that it's literally the definition of an echo chamber. I asked how would that work with a film, tv show, game, etc made by thousands of people who no doubt have views all over the political compass, but got no answer. I then asked why deprive yourself of things you enjoy, and she told me it was "praxis" KEK. They really think getting assmad on twitter or tumblr is gonna change the world. Like
>>1888021 said though, it's only women that get this level of scrutiny. I've never heard that stuff about the FNAF guy either, despite it being annoyingly popular in online circles.
No. 1888038
>>1888021Aside from misogyny it's also the fact that J.K. Rowling is a feminist and a leftist, so troons have high expectations of her, while the creator of FNAF is conservative and an asshole so they don't care much. As another anon said in another thread, if someone does something "
problematic" but they're already a shitty person no one cares because it was expected. If it's someone who is overall nice, everyone will pay attention to it and be surprised. And honestly most of these girls were or are probably autistic and big FNAF, Undertale, yaoi, Bendy and the ink machine etc fans so they will obviously not pay attention to the shit the creator of their interests has done
No. 1888064
>>1888021Scott Cawthon, the creator of FNAF, literally gave thousands of dollars in donations to Donald Trump, Mitch McConnell, and Ben Carson, among other major American Republicans, and yet he has
never gotten the treatment Rowling continues to get, despite the fact that she's basically his antithesis (someone who financially supports very leftist causes, focusing on people in need rather than politicians). TRAs constantly bring up Rowling every chance they can get, just so that they can enjoy deriding a woman as being "literally Hitler," but if you bring up Cawthon, they hem and haw, usually changing the subject after saying something like "I don't know enough about him" or "He's getting money from FNAF anymore, right?" without ever following up on that at any point. They just go right back to continuously obsessing over how "evil" Rowling is and never mentioning Cawthon. It shows just how little they care about any of this, and how all they care about is having an "acceptable" target for their desire to abuse women.
No. 1888089
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Fakeboi has a tantrum on the vegan sub:
https://archive.ph/edapQ No. 1888111
>>1888089It always just boils down to
>Anything that hurts my feelings or makes me have to look at my behavior is twansphobic!!!God they’re insufferable.
No. 1888158
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>>1888132why would you post this
No. 1888162
>>1887962don’t you have to be kind of autistic to think that you can LARP as a man? I’ve never met a tif who wasn’t autistic.
I’m friends with normie women and tifs, and the biggest difference between them, outside the troon hobby, is the autistic tendencies.
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>>1888089>my right to exist as a trans person >people tell you daily your identity doesn’t exist>dismiss the importance of pronounsThis is what pisses me off. Why do
I have to be involved in your troon narrative? I don’t give a fuck about you existing as a twans person. If you were such a man, you would still be a man whether I believe you are or not.
Blogpost, but I personally identify as bisexual. I’ve only been in relationships with women, so my friends assume I’m a lesbian. Them thinking I’m a lesbian, doesn’t make me less bisexual. What happened to not letting what people think of you define who you are? Isn’t identity inherently personal?
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>>1888132nona, it feels like you’re looking down on troons for having the same kink as you to make yourself feel like less of a degen.
You should either completely own and be confident in your weird egg-laying kink or try to stop engaging with it, because it seems like it’s a source of shame.
Proudly get your rocks off laying your eggs, girl. Or stfu.
also “cis” isn’t a thing kek No. 1888184
>>1888177>nona, it feels like you’re looking down on troons for having the same kink as you to make yourself feel like less of a degen. >because it seems like it’s a source of shame. Maybe, but as someone with degen kinks, but not that one:
Troons are always lower on the degen scale than normal people because troons. And just because you have the same kink as some other rando doesn't mean you want to associate with them. And people do the same kink in different ways. I'm sure troon impreg kink is way grosser than what some rando woman gets up to. I have a mindcontrol kink but I'm very specific in how I want it done. Some of they ways other people, not even troons, do it are disgusting, and I want no parts of that or them.
No. 1888209
>>1888132We all need to know less about each other
Genuinely though, I always worry about transguys who are so desperate for approval from men. They often expose themselves to so much more danger (stds, physical violence and sex crimes) so they can be seen as something they can't become. It's beyond concerning and I wish more could be done against it.
For every pretentious ftm who screams about being a fag, there are 3 who are
victims of crimes/mental illness and wish to escape their circumstances.
No. 1888217
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I get a special sort of schadenfreude from seeing straight troon delusions that they can larp their way into being gay be brought down by the reality that gay people aren't interested in the opposite sex. I've had personal experience being screamed at by a straight tif irl for not wanting to fuck tims as a lesbian, so it warms my heart to be reminded that they'll never get what they want and will just end up miserable in a hell of their own creation.
No. 1888236
>>1888235Making fun of troons was forbidden**
Twitter always allowed more diversity of opinion and a bit more freedom of speech but anyone shit talking troons on tumblr would basically get mass reported by the troons followers and have their account quickly deleted for bullying or get doxxed and leave the platform. Tumblr had much stricter rules and was kind of like instagram where saying negative or insulting things was forbidden (compared to twitter where you could shit talk people more)
No. 1888255
>>1888064The main argument I’ve been seeing is that, unlike [insert
abusive/racist/rapist/pedophile celebrity here], JKR “funds organisations that actively cause harm to trans people and put them in danger”. Therefore doing anything that puts more money in her pocket (including promoting her IP through fanart, cosplay etc.) directly contributes to the trans genocide. I honestly don’t know what genocidal organisation they’re even talking about and they never reply when I ask. The rape crisis centre may be “trans exclusionary” but it’s not stopping men from going to any of the other similar centres that do welcome them so calling it “dangerous” is an obvious reach. Am I missing something?
Anyway it’s funny that despite this argument, these same people turn a blind eye to billionaires or corporations that directly fund e.g. anti-abortion legislature or employ slave labour to manufacture their products. But the wizard book lady who saves female Afghani lawyers from the Taliban needs to be stopped at all cost!
No. 1888271
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>>1888229>The entire gender ideology bullshit originated from tumblr.Indeed! As George "Christine" Jorgensen said: "if you can't have the blorbo,
become the blorbo"
No. 1888446
>>1888229>>1888235Seconding this. It didn't
come from Tumblr, it first
became trendy on Tumblr. Social justice got popular on Tumblr because in 2012, half of the users were suburban kids who attended liberal arts schools.
No. 1888467
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I wonder how many fakebois have been created because of their mothers pulling them out of childhood early and using their daughters as live-in nannies. It's eerie how this user doesn't see how blatant it is. I like finding fakebois in the wild talking about their family life, it's like a direct look into the reasons why the transgender trend is hitting so hard for young girls.
No. 1888508
>>1888502could you morons stop astroturfing this site into becoming another homophobic tradfag hellhole with your retarded takes
genuinely, if you're not one of the idiot newcomers i am talking aout, all you are doing is spreading some actul proper vintage homophobia with the excuse of "it's just manhate", then all you are doing is signaling to rightwing assholes that this is a place for likeminded people, and then we get genuine, for the lack of better word, bigots here and right now we're seeing more and more anons going on about how butch lesbians are actually just male brained menlite etc lesbian hating shit. stop this shit. idiot.
No. 1888520
>>1888498>>1888507It's not homophobic to acknowledge gay men have a high STD rate because of promiscuity. Why do you think AIDs ran ramped through the gay community in the 80s but lesbians were left unscathed? Guess what nona, HSTS TiMs have a even higher HIV rate.
We're already considered a right-wing hate site because we make fun of trannies, who today are considered more oppressed than gays and lesbians.
No. 1888523
>>1888508Ayrt. I was
opposing what orgy-anon said. Scrotes are less sexually selective and more risk-taking than women, so it makes sense that male-exclusive social spaces would reflect those qualities. These spaces are going to exist in some form, so at least the owners of the bathhouses are making a living out of it and providing patrons the easily accessible option of safe sex with free condoms, lube, etc.
Also, gay bathhouses aren't nearly as common as they used to be pre-AIDs, pre-internet. They don't really need a physical location to meet hook-ups now that Grindr exists, so I imagine the bathhouses only get by these days through a combination of nostalgia, novelty, and old-fart fags who refuse to use the internet. Trad-chan is getting upset about a dying breed of business. It's like getting mad about Blockbuster video.
No. 1888525
>>1888520Nta but I don't understand why people use AIDs as a pretext to hate gay men. These days, you almost have to be either profoundly uneducated or actively negligent to catch HIV. Stateside, new cases disproportionately affect people below the poverty line, likely because they can't access PreP, testing, treatment etc. That's most of why AIDs is running rampant in sub-Saharan Africa; education is poor and there aren't enough medical resources.
>We're already considered a right-wing hate site because we make fun of tranniesThat doesn't mean we should act like a bunch of /pol/fags, though. I hate trannies in large part because they're homophobic and especially lesbophobic. The LGB and the scrotes within have issues, but they don't deserve to have their movement hijacked by a bunch of opportunistic straight predators. I'll side with a gay scrote over a tranny any day, frankly. They may not have been affected as severely as lesbians, but they're still having to watch their community get ruined by troon brain rot.
No. 1888544
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>>1888498
>oh no, not my heccin bathouserinos this literally anuddah shoahFor all the radfem ranting about moid coomers, some here are strangely willing to go bat for them if said coomers happen to come from a "protected group."
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No. 1888597
>>1888508Seconding this. I came here to read about tifs not real gay moids, any lurking tif must be thrilled you're talking about real gay moids in this space as if it was relevant to them
>>1888255>I honestly don’t know what genocidal organisation they’re even talking about and they never reply when I ask.From day one of trans ideology has failed to provide basic coherent explanations to any of their claims hence why "what is a woman" was so heavily debated, they can't define it and dismiss the accurate "adult human female" as bigoted lies. They now know they can make up any claim they want, pretend there are studies proving it because they know no one on the trans side is going to fact check it and they can just dismiss real studies disproving it as bigoted
No. 1888623
>>1888576Males are always horny and biologically, for them, sex is a much less heavy and important deed. Usually this is tuned down by the fact women are more careful and picky when it comes to sex. But put male-and-male and well, no barriers anymore.
That being said, one of the truest couples I know is two gay friends of mine. They've been together for years and I wish I had someone who loved me like those two love each others.
(derailing) No. 1888730
File: 1693069609374.webm (5.49 MB, 320x568, XAXGc-wC3-yl3M94.webm)
This is the the single most girliest thing I have ever seen, what does she think men are like.
No. 1888786
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>>1888730She went to the barber and showed them this picture. Heh heh.
No. 1888796
>>1888730i went onto her instagram and found her mtf husband's account as well. he has 'poly' in his bio and is also dating another mtf. i wouldn't be surprised if that contributed to her trooning out.
i bet he was miserable about her transition in private. suddenly the agp's lesbian fantasy is ripped away because his wife was 'secretly a man' all along! i always laugh when ftms troon out after their mtf boyfriends/husbands. that part is funny even though it's depressing overall
No. 1888819
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i'm not sure if this has been posted before, but i saw it gaining decent traction on tumblr.
No. 1888827
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>>1888819KEK at all this copium coming from a fully grown adult. She sounds like a petulant child, and as an autist I automatically hate anyone who says that autism is "cool". It's fucking hellish, you gotta be some sort of self-dx munchie to say that shit. I checked her out briefly and found picrel, I don't have a medium account because I'm not a navel-gazing snob but the tl;dr from the snippet I read is that two young women insinuated she was gay and probably clocked her as a troon, so I guess all women are evil.
No. 1888877
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>>1888089Lol, based boomer
No. 1888895
>>1888819Being autistic (like, actually autistic, not self-diagnosed like this person probably is) often affects your ability to thrive with your career, relationships, etc. This is especially the case if you're female. Obviously it's not healthy to
hate being autistic, but I wouldn't describe it as "cool" either, because it genuinely makes life more difficult. Calling autism "totally radical and cool!!" is just patronizing and disingenuous, like when people say that trannies are stunning and brave. It also reinforces the way self-diagnosed zoomers view it as a fashion accessory.
No. 1888951
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>>1888827Reminds me of this. This is by a personal tif cow of my friends and i. She has this wannabe-badass attitude, says she will "dogwalk" anyone who fucks with her, and yet she's too scared to go on a boat with two men WITH FAMILY.
Being scared of men is understandable but don't preach about punching terfs when you can't even go out to a social gathering with people you know.
No. 1888966
>>1888957Yes it's also a tif, no it's not a south park reference, they'd probably find south park too
triggering>>1888963Kek i mean,, she does throw around the f-slur every chance she gets
No. 1888987
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>>1888966>F slurYou can say fag here, you know
No. 1889042
File: 1693113625015.jpeg (Spoiler Image,1.33 MB, 1170x2026, IMG_0701.jpeg)
can’t stop falling down this rabbit hole of tif’s who describe their nonsense BDSM activities as a sacred spiritual calling
this breaks my heart cause she could be such a hot butch lez, but she’s sick in the head and I also doubt she’s a lesbian cause she says she’s “a total faggot” and “loves men” and just look at that man in the picture, nobody is fooling anyone here unless you count being fucking confused at the layers and layers of mental gymnastics as fooling
No. 1889067
>>1889042it's early, i forgot what thread i'm on and i thought she was gonna talk about how 'daddy' liked being submissive sometimes because my brain automatically attributed the male words to the great hulking man there.
this girl's account screams anxious fake confidence
No. 1889171
File: 1693153742704.jpeg (1.62 MB, 3072x3072, IMG_6712.jpeg)
Idk if this one’s been discussed here but I followed her because of her makeup and after seeing this shit, THAT was clearly a mistake
No. 1889216
>>1888819sage for off topic or whatever but this makes me beyond want to a-log. It's a disability. Having autism isn't 'cool' it means that anyone who legitimately has it will struggle day to day one way or another. And high fuctioning autism or aspergers is basically like being SO close to living life the way you'd want to, but just not quite being able to and it is its own flavor of beyond frustrating.
"It's not a problem"
The fuck are you talking about? Do you think those with autism LOVE having crying fits because the sounds were wrong, or because there were too many people around?
No. 1889234
>>1889171>i really dgaf>multiple posts showing that they very clearly do give a fuck and are absolutely assblasted about itKek.
>>1889216>high fuctioning autism or aspergers is basically like being SO close to living life the way you'd want to, but just not quite being able toYou put into words exactly how I feel, nona. This is why I want to a-log when I see munchies claiming that autism is so cool and "advocates" telling young children that it's like a "super power". Yeah, a superpower that makes me really good at tracking sports stats and quizzing but makes me a total retard in every other setting. How useful! As someone who wasn't diagnosed until 21 and is a GNC lesbian, I just know I'd troon out if I were born 10 years later. That missing bit of information about why I feel so different could
so easily be misconstrued as transness. If trannies legitimately cared about the spergs in their community, they would be honest that we're more likely to troon out, that we're not "true trans" as they say. Like crabs in a bucket they'll drag as many people down with them as possible, though.
No. 1889358
File: 1693182592630.jpg (489.34 KB, 972x1407, Transfujo.jpg)
Lowkey fascinated by the pivot from "I didn't decide to become a man because of my yaoi obsession!" to "being a fujoshi is a sign ur trans actually"
No. 1889379
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An artist friend of mine posted this on instagram as a way of telling everyone she's trooning out I guess. She's had a TIF girlfriend for the past couple years (the winged figure on the left is a caricature of her) which I think probably had a big influence on her wanting to transition. Genuinely sad about it. The comments are all insane of course.
No. 1889411
>>1889379I am once again thinking about how TRAs shame and mock people for mourning the person that was lost in "transition," despite how they constantly compare transition to literally murdering their "old selves" like this. "Trans widow" is forbidden grief, but "deadname" is sacred grief.
>>1889382Kek I can see it. The other one's hair style reminded me of Len Kagamine or BOTW/TOTK Link, too.
No. 1889416
>>1888819wait
at first I read in a sarcastic tone, like obviously - graced by autism and finding oneself with sissy porn, and ed, self harm, abuse - "all good things"
and I was haha clever clever, witty shit
but wait. is she for real. that must be the funniest shit ever - listing all those things and see no pattern, amazing
No. 1889434
>>1889358Everytime I hear this arguement, I think of Refrainbow, the creator of Boyfriends. Exact same sort of thing, except she made a self insert of her (goth) with a guy from a kpop band (jock) in her webcomic.
Everytime that godforsaken comic is promoted on webtoon I feel like screaming into the void
No. 1889472
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>>1889434That's so funny to imagine, also the fact that he towers over the other characters which means that rest of the cast must be like 5'4
No. 1889492
>>1889416If I read it with sarcasm it's a perfect call out post making fun of troons and pointing out they're all just disordered people kek
Maybe this is the way to go
No. 1889520
>>1889391It genuinely reminds me of how I spoke when I was an "ex-homosexual". The whole "now I'm living my truth and it's so wonderful and life is amazing". All it's missing is the religious quotes, though she did put in some religious imagery, so I guess that counts. It's like a cult bingo card.
>>1889472That's the guy she's thirsting over? He looks botched as hell.
No. 1889780
>>1888217Imagine actually wanting to be a gay man, disgusting.
Gay moids are coomers on crack, they wanna fuck and nothing else and she wants to be their target, sad as fuck, top pick me behaviour. I see that all that "gender euphoria" is dying out once they realize that they aren't on the internet anymore and the real world thinks that they're hideous
No. 1889936
>>1889358Honestly it's been fun to watch tifs slapfight over whether yaoi is problematique lately.
>YAOI BAD BECAUSE STR8 WOMEN FETISHIZE INNOCENT LITTLE GAY BOIS>YAOI GOOD BECAUSE ANYONE WHO ENJOYS IT IS ACKHUALLY AN EGG!1!!1!This is the kind of shit you worry about if you have no real world problems.
No. 1889943
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>>1889878nta but what the hell, you can find gay sex disgusting and also despise actual misogyny as well, the point is that you never understand its never "two men" with regards to fujos, its always one man and one hyperfeminized man that is a woman in all but pronouns.
No. 1889987
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Don't respond to bait, post more gross tifs instead.
No. 1889997
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>>1889987>well I suppose it's ok that she didn't know how to wash it at the start, that's not too bad…>"I've been on T for 3 years"Fucking disgusting. How was she not googling this shit the moment her clit started growing? To think, some TIF just walked about smelling of dick cheese for 3 years… trannies are a public health hazard and should be avoided accordingly.
No. 1890007
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Sorry if this has been posted already, but this whole blog is probably the bleakest shit I've seen in a whole month.
>transmasculine guide to sex work>I always recommend that escorts sell porn on the side for some extra income, especially because sites like Adultwork have functionality for you to sell videos on their site and having videos there makes people more likely to book you after watching them if you’re trans and they’re unsure about how masculine you are just from pictures and want video footage in sexual situations.>You’ll remove pre-transition images from your escorting profile or pre-transition videos from your Onlyfans or ManyVids or IWantClips or whatever sites you use. You can then, later, with new clients who never saw you pre-transition, sell these kinds of clips or images at a much higher rate to clients who are chasers or who are curious as to what you looked like “before”. You can suggest it’s embarrassing for you (some of them are into the idea that you’re humiliated by it) and thus you have a high price.https://jackviolet.com/2023/04/01/transmasculine-guide-to-sex-work/ No. 1890108
>>1889878No
nonnie, I think it that way because most faggot personalities are just dick and cock. Have you ever been around them? It has nothing to do with misogyny, it has to do with facts: gay moids (esp. bottoms) are promiscuos as fuck, ridden with stds, are into "pozzing" (voluntarily catching hiv to fuck better, their words) and all that. They are disgusting because they are willing to do the most fucked up things for an ounce of cock. Most women who are hiv positive got the virus from their closeted faggot partners, plus most of them don't even need to hide their misogyny because they don't fuck women so who cares and they feel entitled to our spaces just because they assume we all like cock like them. Quit being a faghag. It has nothing to do with being gay per se, it has do to with those acting like horny apes, which the majority of them are.
The thought of a woman becoming not only a moid but a faggot which are disgusting and even harass people to crack their "gay eggs" and have a "gay radar" saddens me, that's the point.
(autism) No. 1890200
>>1890108didn't read that essay but i honestly do not give a shit what faggots do because it has nothing to do with me i don't care about men so i double-do-not-care about males who fuck males and keep to themselves and leave me alone because they're busy sucking dicks. as a lesbian my disinterest in men is actually that, disinterest and i am not wasting my time letting them live rent free in my mind
>>1890169>>1890190you are just angry and jealous because my third eye is open and i am right. see how people care more about male rape
victims etc because they think it is natural for women and girls to be raped and abused and men and boys being raped and abused is somehow worse because they believe males have inherent dignity unlike women and girls.
No. 1890210
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>I still don't get the logic she's trying to make
No. 1890211
>>1890200>didn't readGood, fuck off then since you make up arguments in your head and then do ted talks in the mirror. Not caring about men doesn't magically exclude you from being a
victim or other girls being totally charmed by them, god I wish that they would go away the moment I stop thinking about them. Your reading comprehension is shit and you should stop shitting up in threads since I guess you're the same anon that was sperging about lesbian sex in the vent thread.
No. 1890230
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TIL I learned about detrans kink
This is a thing with it's own culture on tumblr. It's ftm who fantasize about being impregnated and called women in degrading ways.
No. 1890260
>>1889878>>1890200Idk where you live, but few people care about male rape
victims, probably because they can't be impregnated. Not to say women and girls are cared about, only in the most extreme cases do people care about female rape
victims. Males are inherently prone to rape, like males of other animal species are. And because we live in a patriarchy, men go easy on other men.
No. 1890291
>>1890210Extreme mental illness, denial about material reality, doublethink, and disassociation from her body. It's impossible to truly comprehend crazy people logic, because by definition crazy people don't follow normal logic.
If this woman had not discovered transgender religion, she'd likely be strung out on street drugs or ranting about how she was still a virgin in the eyes of God because she only did anal.
No. 1890410
File: 1693353918114.png (1.14 MB, 884x857, tif.png)
Profile vs. IRL
Seems like Tifs aren't really that different that TiMs.
No. 1890454
>>1890211oh yes all the girls who are
victims of mostly fag men, instead of rapist female attracted men. get over yourself you fucking sperg you're the one acting like a ya protag right now
>I guess you're the same anon that was sperging about lesbian sex in the vent thread.also could you retards stop this shit it makes you look insane and petty that you have such vendetta against some anons you go around accusing everyone being them like you are seething so hard about someone else you think they are here targeting you all over the site.
No. 1890459
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>>1890239i have absolutely no idea how you get that idea from that post but you very much remind me of this article like did you just recognize bunch of words and then just figure out what they could mean in context? do you need picture references to understand the words you are reading?
https://www.apmreports.org/episode/2019/08/22/whats-wrong-how-schools-teach-reading(derailing/ infighting) No. 1890509
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actually lol now i remember it was about my retarded baiting about how people are jealous of japan and you mentally ill femcels somehow got from that that indian men are allowed to rape women or something it's you retarded guys kekkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk you fucking keep thinking about that shit and keep getting repeatedly angry about shit i never said (that conversation also includes my other crimes against women on top of saying that people are jealous of japan, like saying that insulting some random woman's looks is antisocial and weird behavior)
have cringy tif art for on topic(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
No. 1890567
>>1890509Loving the implication that cringy people can't be mean, or normies who hate degenerates can't be nice, even though the opposite is usually true. Besides, there's a difference between "nice" as in "never hurts anyone's feelings" and nice as in "does what's best for others." Are we just going to pretend that treating degenerates like furries or troons as innocent people with no track record for being more
abusive and predatory than the average person is "nicer" than condemning that sort of thing to protect others (and as a best case scenario, motivate the degen to atone and improve)? FFS we've already seen a Sonic sperg rape his mother, and furries are known for having a large population of pedos and zoophiles. Even for the more innocent kinds of people in this image (the fat guy, Naruto cosplayer, and the chick with the Gengar backpack), that sort of "cringe" is born out of a concern for tings like lack of self-care, overindulgence, and malingering. But I suppose it's "nicer" if we just let predators go unchecked and self-destructive people fester, since criticism stings.
No. 1890578
>>1890567This, nona. It's mostly these kinds of people that act the "mean"est by having that typical clique behaviour, antagonizing anyone they don't like or thinking they can't be in the wrong because they're snowflakes.
Funny enough, furries are now super popular with kids despite originally being fetish shit, just like trannies…
No. 1890583
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>>1890518It seems like whenever gay men or yaoi comes up, the same handful of retards rehash the same infights over it. It's always either homophobes vs. faghags or anti-fujos vs fujoshis. Fuckssake, just made it stop. Your opinion of gay scrotes and/or drawings of gay scrotes isn't milk and doesn't matter.
Those anons have been told a million times to take their spergouts to the manhate or fujo cringe thread, but they just refuse. I often wonder if Aidens are gayop-ing the thread and derailing on purpose.
No. 1890611
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Report and don't take the bait
No. 1890675
File: 1693388699954.png (423.25 KB, 534x494, depressing.png)
I don't go looking for tranny shit and purposely avoid it but this appeared on tumblr and I winced so hard. Notice the caption at the bottom 'you did not break me'. Yeah girl, do you not realise all you've done is just break yourself, possibly for life? I can't look at any of these fakeboys' sliced up chests without recoiling. The doctors who do this should be shamed in public
No. 1890677
>>1890675Genuinely the weirdest fashion trend to ever exist. I'm sure these girls all heard about women back in the day fainting and crushing their organs from wearing corsets just to look skinnier and thought that sounded stupid and insane - yet they're doing something far worse.
I also noticed the "nonbinary" tag, shes not even larping as a man, she's just an nlog
No. 1890685
>>1890675I cannot wait until they're 40-50 with a botched chest, grew out of that phase and having to awkwardly explain what they did.
"Auntie believed in sexist stereotypes when she was younger, honey."
No. 1890794
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more fakeboi bdsm aka self-harm for fun and profit
No. 1890807
>>1890704Yeah but they will be stuck with a frog voice, receding hairline, horrible skin, ugly scars, pudgy body and overall a weak, medicalized body. They look sick and always will look that way.
That's not something you can't really hide unless with heavy surgeries like lasering, hair transplant, breast implants (that will end up looking like Hunter Schafer) vocal chords and so on kek I wonder how many of them will regret everything and either a) will act like nothing happened like emo cutters/00's anachans or b) will start to get vocal about "medical abuse" that will get horribly backfired because they "consented" lol, it's not a fashion trend, you can't toss your body like you would do with clothes, they only have that and when it will crumble and realize that it was all a fad I don't want to know what would happen
No. 1890814
>>1890804the problem with those studies is that they can't account for detransitioners who just ghost them or don't speak up
your friend's "most trans people are normal" might have been semi-true 20 years ago when the object of being a transexual was to pass and disappear into the crowd or to just dwell among fellow degens
No. 1890815
>>1890807I was only talking about top surgery but they’re not under obligation to explain any of that stuff either, most of which isn’t exclusive to troons. The frog voice is probably the most glaring issue at least superficially.
A lot of them will regret it but I don’t really find it funny, much like I wouldn’t find someone with extreme self harm scars funny just because they did it to themselves.
No. 1890905
>>1890807You're a bit late, the discourse around detrans women who were "affirmed" immediately, especially as minors instead of screened for mental illness, autism or PTSD has been going strong for a while now. t. ex-tif but you don't have to be this violent about these women's bodies given we're both considered apostates from the trans cult and have no moral support, community or resources once detransitioning. It is medical misogyny and abuse, punching down on those who at least have the common sense to stop, go back and reconnect with what it means to be female is counterproductive.
>>1890804There are very few studies because of what
>>1890814 said, detransitioners are never followed up by their health providers so the numbers range from "less than 1%" to 16%. The one study TRAs parrot constantly is extremely biased as it only includes a very small sample followed by a single clinic and who mostly all were not actual detransitioners. It depends if you include desisters (those who never got medicalized) as well. Your friend is spreading retarded misinformation and just like all TRAs, refuses to listen to the few detransitioners who have the courage to go public discussing it (which is social suicide). Their "t-they're just a minority" defense is so hypocritical, if we should disregard detrans people's experiences because they're only (falsely) "1%", then we should disregard trans people for being just a single-digit minority within population as well.
No. 1890907
>>1890815The thing is when tif "transition" when children or teenagers that's the fault of the doctors and parents. When a 25/30 y/o transitions, you have to be very mentally stunted/ignorant to not realize what you're doing and that it would be permanent, hell, even autistic women can do the link that testosterone equals poisoning and butchering your body and that will never go back to how it was. In the end, it sounds mean, but I feel that some butchered women need to be showed and they need to say how wrong they were so other women and girls can see the effects of troon ideology. Some are already doing it, like Kiera Bell or Chloe Cole but they were transed at a very young age and they were abused, we need to see more women coming up and saying "It was social contagion, I did it because I thought it was cool, I made a mistake. I wanted this. I wanted to be special." because most of the times it's like that. I can understand abused and mentally ill women, I cannot excuse women who randomly decide to be hot young "boys" at 30 just for peer pressure because "cis is boring!!" and become faghags. Embarrassing.
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There’s a trend on tiktok using a song called Russian Girl. It’s always fun to see the gendies jump on it. Shouldn’t the dysphoria prevent them from portraying themselves in dresses or in a feminine way? The whole trend is very feminine anyway.
No. 1890986
>>1890794>my date was too tired for a beating tonight>thinking about how good it would feel to make somebody cry with just my handsLol ok edgelord
I bet she's still much less into sexual violence than an average porn-watching man
No. 1891031
>>1890907When you see the amount of death threats, doxxing, abuse and life-ruining behavior troons throw at any detrans woman who speaks up about how her experience and how she was groomed, it's not surprising few go public. There are private groups where what you said is exactly worded and discussed but it's simply too unsafe in the current environment to take a stand for yourself. TRAs are experts in gaslighting if a detrans woman says she was a CSA
victim or groomed and told to lie to doctors. There was a "trans people talk to detransitioners" middle ground video (posted a few threads back iirc) and the gaslighting + gish gallop from the troons were off the charts, you could see the detrans women were on the verge of tears from it no matter how much they insisted they were mentally unwell minors rushed into irreversible medical intervention. It's impossible to speak when society has TRA's backs, and they have the megaphone.
No. 1891139
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>>1890794another one transitioning into a meme
No. 1891203
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For so many TIFs the gender movement really is just "what aesthetic do you want to base yourself around" with the added oppression points they'll get for calling it a gender instead of just your style
No. 1891297
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The girl who makes 'using neopronouns' videos posted a tiktok of her crying because her and her wife got called ladies in a gay bar and then got kicked out when they confronted the bartender. Now she's in the comments section talking about wanting to get a the gay bar shut down.
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>>1891297I hate the "first world problems" meme, but damn she made it sound like a "first world problems" meme.
No. 1891342
>>1891281I was thinking the exact same thing kek. I haven't been on radblr in years, but I remember seeing cowboy, vampire, and werewolf themed usernames and/or icons quite a lot. Imagine going jumping through so many hoops to establish yourself as literally
anything but a woman only to end up being similar to the genocidal nazi pussy worshipping cult you hate so much. I have to laff.
>>1891297Lord, give me the strength not to post several paragraphs of A-logging about this bitch. AARGH!
No. 1891565
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Imagine the brain worms you'd have to have to not understand sexuality has to do with "anatomical preferences"
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Ok I saw a video of this woman talking about how she wishes she’d wake up with breast cancer so she can have her breasts removed but that’s not the point, point is jesus fucking christ testosterone is really doing a horrible number on these ladies. They think they look manly? Could you imagine having to walk around in this gendergoblin form for the rest of your life?
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>>1891606>she’d wake up with breast cancer so she can have her breasts removedHoly fuck, how entitled/asshole/stupid you have to be to wake up and think "oh being in cancer stage 4 will get me a flat chest like I wish!"? Does she really think cancer goes away with the mastectomy?
10/10, got mad.
No. 1891696
>>1891606>she wishes she’d wake up with breast cancer so she can have her breasts removedSorry for blogging a bit but I used to wish this too as a teen. In my case I had a deformity that makes my breasts not look ideal and they embarrassed the fuck out of me to the point that it literally turned me asexual because of how much I feared anyone ever seeing them. I was hyperfixated on them at all times the same way tifs are. I had a minor surgery to fix the issue (while keeping my breast fully intact and working) in my 20s and it changed my whole world.
I remember a tif who hated her very large chest and wanted her breasts gone because she was a trans man. Because why would she hate it if she wasn't a man? After being suggested a breast reduction first to see if it helped her issues, she stopped being trans and was instead happy with her breats and fine with being a girl.
Detrans girls/women have admitted they wanted to look like the perfect women but didn't and knew they couldn't, so they thought "well I can't be a good enough woman so I must instead be a man". Getting your breasts fully removed is offered as the ONLY solution to these problems that stem from misogyny, but it can also have medical needs hidden in them. Sometimes the solution can be surgery, but not as extreme.
No. 1891711
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Good god girl grow the fuck up, how are these people so insanely fragile one small comment from an old ass man can make them cry like babies on tiktok. Go the fuck outside once in a while
No. 1891748
>>1891717not an alice cooper fan, but he basically said kids and teens should wait until they’re adults to transition and that in a lot of cases people transition because it’s the trend right now. he never outright said he hates trannies or whatever so it’s really tame imo. but ofc troons get
triggered anyway because they all know deep down they are the “trend” part he is refering to.
No. 1891862
>>1891696I find it hard to believe that there is a significant enough amount of people who would genuinely benefit from cosmetic surgery more than they would from learning self-acceptance, even if that requires therapy. Even breast reduction, which is mostly justified with reasonable-sounding enough concerns, has more intense medical risks than medical benefits. I see women cite back pain as their reason for wanting or getting it, but the surgery commonly comes with the side effects of long-term back pain, neck pain, shoulder pain, and risks such as infection, blood clots, loss of sensation, actual loss of nipples, and necrosis. As a large-chested woman myself, the justification women give for wanting or getting breast reduction starts to sound like an excuse, with that context. It only sounds more like an excuse when you realize how many of the women who get it also have a history with eating disorders, dysmorphia, CSA, rape, or trans identification. I won't say it's impossible for a woman who would genuinely be better off with a breast reduction to exist, because I don't know that, but it seems to me that such a woman would be a rarity compared to the women seeking out the operation because of underlying psychological issues that would be better resolved by nonsurgical and non-medical means.
Maybe I'm wrong, and that nose job would actually improve my life, but I can't help but find the parallels between standard cosmetic surgeon trans surgeons. They both make a whole lot of promises about the supposed psychological benefits, but very evidently obfuscate the risks, and seemingly have constant PR campaigns about how the people who get these treatments absolutely 100% do not have any underlying psychological issues and live confidently happily ever after with no other issues with their bodies once they get physical treatment for their emotional distress. The lack of data available on how common or severe the side effects and complications actually are for these "treatments" feels deliberate at this point, and the fact that success for these sorts of things is largely measured by whether patients answer "Are you satisfied with the results of this expensive, high-risk procedure that you literally just went through in hopes of making yourself satisfied?" with "yes" or "no" seems entirely insidious.
No. 1891873
>>1891696>I remember a tif who wanted her very large chest gone, why would she hate it if she wasn't a man? It's unfortunate that when these girls have problems with their bodies they think "this must not be my body then." Even sadder if they think this after comparing themselves to the standards set BY men and somehow come to the conclusion that THEY must be men too.
>After being suggested a breast reduction, she stopped being transSlight blog, I wonder if this is me. I've long desisted thankfully but I still wonder if me wanting a mastectomy is me (I'm butch and love being androgynous) or if it's the trannyism and if a reduction would "cure" me. I'm terrified of surgery so maybe I'll never find out.
No. 1891908
>>1891711Meanwhile male celebs say significantly worse things about real women yet you don't see trannies cry about that. Also not to racebait but what an absolute normie, Christian-lineaged, accentless, white Western experience to never hear that a celeb has shitty opinions about people like you through the whole damn 2000s until you literally force your way into pretending to have oppression in 2023. There was a popular tumblr blog called "your fave is
problematic" back in the day and literally everyone with a name had something ignorant they'd said or done worse towards a minority than just "Oh I don't get you and some people jump into the lifestyle too quick". Children learn their idols don't blindly love them back and can be shitty or "phobic" pretty early in their celebrity crush phase if they actually have any minority in them. Any real minority would adore if this was the extent of comments they got, and anybody secure in their identity surely wouldn't cry over this because there wasn't a single insult in Cooper's words unlike someone shitting on a religious choice or something.
>>1891862Agreed, cosmetic surgery doesn't "help" insecurities, it just gets rid of individual issues (assuming you get the perfect result you want) and the moment a new insecurity pops up you're no better off dealing with it than before. The boost in confidence right after removal is just the high of a mental load being lifted but again, the insecurities and root issues aren't really dealt with so something else is just inevitably going to pop up
>>1891873Body-mind separation is a deeply insidious ideology and the only reason movements likes HAES (I live in a perma-fat body) and trannyism/body mod=new person can exist. Plus I blame it for how bad cosmetic surgery has gotten as you're basically encouraged to swap your parts like a Mr. Potato Head but it's fine cause it's your
body not
you No. 1891922
>>1891862There's also a high risk that the dumbass cosmetic surgeon will fuck up and destroy your body. But the people who get cosmetic surgery view these doctors like magicians, when they're all misogynist men who want to cut up bodies for profit, and enjoy calling women ugly as a business.
The only cosmetic surgery I can see improving someone's life is reconstructive surgery after a fire or animal attack or an extreme birth defect. Changing your nose shape or boob size won't fix your mental insecurities.
No. 1892021
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Female to David Byrne
No. 1892042
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Pardon the scribbles, I wanted to showcase
>thanks to poppers
without having to spoiler the whole thing.
No. 1892141
>>1891748Isn't that pro-tranny, to say that people should be able to transition when they're adults? But the goal posts keep on moving I guess
>>1892042>someone should smell how stinking I amI think we can tell just by looking sis don't worry
No. 1892172
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something about a tif with a discord profile dedicated to james sunderland made me laugh
No. 1892231
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tifs are so clockable even just by the way they write. i saw the top left comment and instantly knew. looked at her profile and whaddya know, she uses neopronouns, is disabled and also a DID larper. why are they all like this? also, she calls her body type a "dad bod". surejan.gif
No. 1892244
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>>1892042funny when 3 years ago she got bolt on tits
No. 1892364
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Warning for FGM, please be careful opening the image if you're sensitive to this topic.
I can't believe this is legal. I saw from her profile that she's 26, and also got a top surgery including nipple removal because she identifies as "altersex & voidpunk" whatever that is. This poor woman.
No. 1892398
>>1892364>Clearly just a stitched up vagina>"I have bottom dysphoria but not enough to get phallo">"I am a binary trans-man">"Is the surgery for asexual reasons" "Yes"This sounded like someone with sexual trauma to me, so I decided to look in her post history. I didn't find proof of what I suspected, but I did find an assortment of other horrifying pieces of information.
Post History Horrors:
>Believes her pride in her FGM is "a celebration of non-normative bodies">Posts on r/intersex despite her post history showing that she was correctly recognized as female when she was born>Believes yaoi "cracked her egg">Blatantly straight but claims to be "alienated because (she's) queer">Claims she removed her nipples because she has "sensory issues," wanted room for a chest tattoo, and wanted to be "smooth all over">"I'm sex indifferent, so I would be willing to pleasure my parter for the sake of intimacy, but I don't want anything done on my body">"Trans healthcare has made me happier than any attempt to "accept" my birth sex">Claims she started transition at 21, and HRT at 23>"I'm not brushing off science, and well* versed in the science of trans healthcare">That asterisk doesn't lead to any footnote, it's just there>"I removed my ovaries. I will not experience menopause because I am on testosterone for life.">Has had a hysterectomy>"I had my entire vaginal canal removed">26 years old>Her response to being asked about her ability to have kids was "I don't want kids right now" No. 1892408
>>1892364look how many AMA posts she made. this is her whole identity.
she's so desperate for attention she is willing to mutilate her body for it.
pathetic.
No. 1892442
>>1892398>fgm is a celebrationHas she actually called her surgery an fgm, because if so yeah she's correct but it's such a slap in the face to fgm
victims to say its a fucking "celebration" these retarded white western girls really don't know shit
No. 1892462
>>1892442Also just to add to
>>1892451 she didn't refer to it as FGM she calls it "nullification surgery"
No. 1892561
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>>1892042>>1892244There's way too much too unpack here, Jesus. Homegirl is collecting mental illnesses like Pokemon cards.
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>>1892364holy shit her comment history is a compilation of insanity. she talks about how she's asexual but has a libido, and that her surgery lets her… ignore being horny? she also seethes about gay men not wanting to fuck her because they're transphobic, of course.
No. 1892667
>>1892573this only further rouses my suspicion that she has some VERY serious sexual trauma.
fuck gender ”healthcare” for profiting off of traumatized women like her
No. 1892779
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These girls are so dysphoric over their breasts that they throw parties themed around them.
>>1892231Another
victim of the Taika Waititi to FTM pipeline.
No. 1892846
>>1892398>Yaoi "cracked the egg" Like pottery
Curse the Japanese for the mental illness they've ensued. Fucking troons and their god damn anime
No. 1892863
>>1892364Glad this was posted here, I saw that reddit post a few days ago and it's just straight up nightmare fuel. Imagine being like 40+ and having to live with your genitals looking like THIS for the rest of your life just because you got to deep into your ~voidpunk~ phase in your mid 20s. Also, the doctor who performed this has to be some kind of sociopath, I sincerely hope this would be illegal in my country.
>removing your nipples to make space for a tattooAh yes, clearly a life-saving surgery we got there
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>>1892655Oh damn, I didn't even make that correlation. And it's literally a body horror/rape revenge film too. The girl who has her genitals removed/closed also gets her nipples removed, because she doesn't want to be 'sexualised or degraded'. All of the surgery addicts in the film were meant to look freakish too.
No. 1892958
>>1892172She probably dismisses the entire misogyny of the character and self-inserts as him while imagining (spoilers)
killing Mary as a metaphor for "killing her womanhood"
No. 1892978
>>1892971I turn their bullshit lore against them
Report them and explain you're concerned she's mocking/making light of "trans genocide"
No. 1892985
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kek this fakeboi in the britpop fandom started skinwalking reece shearsmith (the guy from the league of gentlemen, inside number 9, etc) during the pandemic, decided to transition in an attempt to become him, and is now crying that he blocked her crazy ass on both her accounts. ngl i kinda love it when these "kin" type fakebois discover the subject of their obsession thinks they're a freak.
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>>1892940I’m not sure. I think
>>1892954 is pretty close.
>>1892956Not at all. We had a graduating class of about 100 kids so everyone knew everyone, nobody was much of an attention whore. She was friends with a group of three girls and I remember them being obsessed with 1D when they first blew up, being like “oh hot” anytime they saw a hot guy lol (or “HAWT!” if he was really hot). It was pretty lighthearted and funny, clearly girls being girls and embracing boy craziness.
On her instagram it looks like after we graduated she went to a liberal arts college in a very liberal state, came out as bi or lesbian (can’t remember I stalked her a while back), dated a TiM, came out as nonbinary, developed an eating disorder, and a close family member of hers died during Covid. The order of all this stuff is better illuminated in her “get to know me” post on Reddit. She was never an attention whore, just a quirky girl who was sort of love-shy I guess…she never dated anyone and didn’t seem interested in sex. I’m suffering trying to find this post she made on Reddit about high school, but until then take this one.
No. 1893000
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>>1892994Found it! Sounds like she was really ashamed of her sexuality for a long time and in an effort to accept her lesbianism she flew too close to the sun and asked herself too many questions and got a bit…tangled up. And sterilized. Here’s a snip from the post at a time when I knew her.
https://www.reddit.com/r/actuallesbians/comments/8apavh/hayley_kiyoko_saved_me_long_post/?share_id=U6AJw0vLI4xybmy-kmOeP&utm_content=2&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1&rdt=55562 No. 1893002
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>>1891182t-then why did she need the morning after pill??
No. 1893018
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kek oh lord
No. 1893052
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I cannot comprehend that this isn't a parody.
No. 1893055
>>1893052>refers to partner as wife>is upset that they got called ladies>speaks about someone being white with derision >is white???
>>1893054do you really think another lobotomy would be good for her tho?
No. 1893063
>>1893041>I like the wine not the labelI know this is just from a stupid comedy show, but if I have to hear any more variations of "hearts not parts" or "I don't get hung up on genitals, I'm into
people" sexual fluidity rhetoric I may alog.
I'm sure bisexuals hate the fact their "representation" is mostly horny degenerates that fuck anything with a pulse, including trannies, almost as much as gays such as myself hate the assertion that sex doesn't matter (and therefore people of the opposite sex "should be included" in our sexualities). No. 1893064
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No. 1893069
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this is a tif right? no man could possibly be engaging in this type of behavior
No. 1893103
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>>1893084Is sad and ironic how homophobic TRAs sound like (adding also the "How can they know if they're gay if they haven't have sex with someone with a vagina"), but when someone mention they parrot the same stuff a conservative person would say, they would tell you "But we are open minded!".
No. 1893125
>>1893055Of course she needed to clarify he was white. Otherwise he gets a pass because oppression - come on,
nonnie!
No. 1893134
>>1893075Their reply to this is always "I'm not saying I'm better, just different." The problem is, saying things like "I don't care about labels" or "hearts not parts" inherently implies that someone who
does care about sex is "picky" or "genital-obsessed." It makes those who openly care about sex sound like they have unnatural preferences that may even be degenerate in nature. The worst part about this is that you
know sex matters to them, too, because it's literally
the integral part of sexuality. But you can't prove that, so they'll demand citations for what should be easily inferred knowledge, and call you a bigot when you fail to provide.
>>1893103Their egos hinge on the idea that they are tolerant and loving in all the "correct" ways. As such, the assertion that they're bigoted or regressive sounds absurd to them. As someone who grew up around Christian communities, their logic is very familiar to me. They believe themselves to be enlightened people with hearts full of love, and that everyone they hate is just a sinful fool who must be enlightened, typically through shame and abuse, or else suffer eternally for being "unrepentant" in their "flaws."
No. 1893152
>>1893137AYRT and, yeah, that sounds about right. I never once got the impression that sex was irrelevant to people who happen to be attracted to both sexes, because sex fundamentally changes both the experience and process of physical intimacy. Hell, it's pretty common for bisexuals to have different "types" depending on sex, like preferring tough women and cute men, as opposed to their type being consistent across sex, like liking tough women and tough men. But, again, even if their "type" were uniform across the sexes, the sex of their partner would still impact the experience and process of intimacy. It just comes across as posturing when people insist sex is irrelevant to them, because of this.
No. 1893153
>>1893134And the worse thing is that they're repeating the "I prefer a daughter/son than a gay son/daughter" when they "claim" kids in HTR/surgeries aren't harmful and they can detrans anytime.
No, you're being a homophobic asshole for not accepting your kid might be gay, except people support your retrograde POV.
No. 1893154
>>1893052Sorry but it's SO funny how she's trying to act like a traumatized
victim for most of the video but simply can't resist also being a sanctimonious lecturing bitch in the very same video, like… I get that it's all an act, but pick a role and stay in character
No. 1893189
>>1893153Trannies always act so surprised and confused when right-wingers say they'd rather have a "straight" tranny child than a gay "cis" child. Because they so strongly believe gay and trans are comparable, they can't even begin to fathom the fact that transgenderism has been used as a form of gay conversion by conservatives across the globe for generations, so it just seems arbitrary to them. Even approaching the topic results in severe cognitive dissonance.
I vaguely remember a post on tumblr that was something like OP recalling how their grandmother, who grew up in a deeply religious Christian family in the deep south of USA around the early 1900s, had a sister who was disliked by their parents, was taken away somewhere by said parents, disappeared for awhile, and when she came back, she was OP's grandma's "brother," and was treated as such by her family. This was framed as a beautiful tale of self-discovery and family love, as well as an argument of how unreasonable "TERFs" are, if even this deeply conservative Christian family in the early 1900s could "accept their trans child's gender identity." They react to oppressive gender roles forced on gay men like hijra or muxe the same way. There's no sense of context, because if there were, it would fundamentally damage the narrative that gender is progressive, liberating, and in-line with feminism and gay rights.
No. 1893209
>>1893189>They react to oppressive gender roles forced on gay men like hijra or muxe the same way. There's no sense of context, because if there were, it would fundamentally damage the narrative that gender is progressive, liberating, and in-line with feminism and gay rights.This. I'm sick of white gendies searching for validation in other cultures, taking anything gender special looking out of cultural and historical context and going omg that's just like meeee, see we have existed for millennia you have to accept us now! Meanwhile hijra are open about the fact that it is not a tranny identity, it's a religious thing and mainly pushed on intersex babies (who are usually abandoned and left with adult hijras) and effeminate males, though some of them do identify as a tim on top of being a hijra. I don't know about other cultures except mine with the hijra but I can bet it's similar. But then I see pocs living in the west go along with it too, instead of researching this thing that's in their own damn cultures they play into the white gendie idea that pocs historically were innocent divine genderless beings, to make themselves feel like the specialest of the special I guess.
No. 1893232
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Most of the comments on this are people saying how sad it is that women can't wear what they want and the poster replying she's not even a woman and focusing on that. Bio says he/him.
No. 1893274
>>1893232>Aliexpress quality coord>Fried wig>Shaved off eyebrows>Drew on new, shittier eyebrows>Giant nose ring that makes her thin upper lip look even thinner>Another he/him TIF who is (poorly) styling herself as a male fantasy version of a girl and claiming its for herselfThere is a point to be made about how women and girls are constantly scrutinized for their appearance in ways men and boys aren't, and how the way we dress is always the target of ridicule no matter what we wear, but I don't think that's applicable in the case of this Party City scary clown costume.
Also, is she bragging about being publicly humiliated because she thinks it's a sign of her individuality (or whatever other reimagining of "normies don't get it"), or is she just looking for approval and comfort from TikTok TRAs after being embarrassed?
No. 1893314
>>18930021) like many trannies Ezra and Isaac have an open relationship so they can sleep with real moids.
2) Ezra just bought it for that stupid "I did this so now you won't be afraid to! uwu" series.
3) It's for the LARP.
Personally, I think the reason is both 2
and 3. They seem too sappy to be open, though I could be wrong about that. I'm just spitballing here.
No. 1893322
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I was looking at the (bad) asian parenting stories subreddit reading a post about one person having experienced the opposite growing up and this was tacked on at the end. Proof that not even good parenting successfully prevents retardation. Women turning out to be annoying TIFs no matter the environment is analogous to males being violent disrespectful apes regardless of upbringing.
No. 1893402
>>1893322>>1893387lmfaoo i hate this "my perfect life wasn't anything like your shitty existence" thing people do on vent posts
also i am so confused about how people say sex and gender are different if you can just claim to not be a female anymore? your sex is still female even if you don't claim woman
No. 1893419
>>1893402It's because TRAs don't believe it when they say it. They just use it as a deflection from
valid criticisms of transgender ideology such as "trans ideology's proponents seek to erase recognition of sex in most, if not all, settings, despite the clear relevance of sex" or "associating sexed terms (eg woman) with anything other than the literal definition (eg adult human female) is reinforcing regressive gender roles, and is by extension sexist, misogynistic, unnecessarily restrictive, and often homophobic."
The statement "sex and gender are different" is, by itself, true. However, "gender" is quite literally the things that people and societies arbitrarily associate with "female" or "male," outside of provably sexed characteristics, and therefore cannot exist without the association to sex. Otherwise, it would just be "aesthetics" or "lifestyle choices" that have no bearing on what bathroom someone uses, what sports teams they can join, whether they're called "she" or "he," or what the sex markers on their legal and medical documents say. This means that the statement is entirely devoid of conviction or meaning, when said by a TRA.
Talking about this makes me miss when "gender" was used primarily to improve clarity when talking about sex (the characteristic) and sex (the act), due to how relevant each one is in discussion of the other. No. 1893429
>>1893419the more I learn about transgender ideology, the less it makes sense. I'm hoping that one day, the inconsistencies and hypocrisy will catch up to it, and it'll unravel.
do trans people understand how much saying your body needs to match your gender harms kids? it creates a goalpost they'll never reach. it doesn't matter how much HRT, voice therapy, or genital surgeries doctors offer trans people; there will be a new group of babies who grow up feeling like they need to be medicalized.
seeing posts from trans people saying that they hate cis people because they "long for the childhood they never had" makes me sad. they don't realize that the reason they grew up discontented was that society chose rules for people to follow based on their sex. "gender affirming care" is just like the image of the snake eating its tail.
No. 1894037
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hm I wonder why a pansexual trans man finds relationship between women relatable
No. 1894082
>>1894037>"IDK why lesbian media made by men for men is so unrelatable and not sexy at all. Maybe it's because of an ambiguous focus on penetration that exists for no particular reason?">"I definitely related to this lesbian-fetishizing movie made by males, though, because the males that made this one are trannies now! That means they secretly understood lesbians all along!"You would think TIFs are at risk of spontaneous combustion if they admit that men don't understand lesbianism but fetishize it anyways, based on how averse they are to acknowledging these facts in any way.
Also, as a dyke, I don't find Bound very relatable or sexy. The scene where Jennifer Tilly asks Gina Gershon if she's surprised she knows what the labrys is is so "hello fellow lesbians" that it makes me kek every time. Gina is attractive enough in the movie, but that's about it. Otherwise, it feels very distinctly male-written and male-directed. I don't know any actual lesbians who would have chosen Tilly to be one half of the leading couple if they were to make a movie about lesbians, either. That also feels like a very male choice to me. She reminds me of Betty Boop in this role, and it's a massive turnoff.
No. 1894274
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>I pass just not around them
Admit it you dont already, tif
But seriously tho, the longer I stay on the internet coming across troonism inadvertently the more i wonder what its like for tifs and tims with their same-sex siblings. Saged for poor milk
No. 1894285
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Live action version of wimpy One Piece side character is played by a tif. Half of people are somehow shocked that she looks so young despite being 21. The other half are shouting at anyone who harmlessly suggests a recast of the actor would be needed in later seasons to fit the older tall buff shirtless version of the character.
No. 1894297
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>>1894285>tall, buff, shirtless version of the characterI'm not the biggest OP fan or anything, but when does coby get buff and shirtless? I only remember him going from being a wimpy little kid to becoming one of the smaller more effeminate male characters on the show. absolutely massive kek at them casting a fakeboi to play THIS character though. Wonder how they are going to handle the tranny island bit
No. 1894311
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>>1894297Correction. He has shirtless scenes but isn't always shirtless. Still he becomes significantly taller and buffer than before. Realistically the show will never make it that far but it's amusing to see people get upset over others pointing it out.
No. 1894392
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>she looks so young despite being 21Having that huge forehead doesn't make her look young. It does make her look like balding from testosterone abuse.
Groomed from the age of 13 or younger:
>He first came out as transgender to his mother and close friends at the age of 13 and came out publicly in 2020>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgan_DaviesOn her agency's profile she looks as if she was descending into misery, Ellen Page-style:
>https://cpmgt.com.au/artists/morgan-davies/Her insta:
>https://www.instagram.com/morganlogoff/BTW, what do you use to download Instagram content without logging in these days?
No. 1894405
>>1894399It's not based and I don't think it is. I'm sure whoever directed the dub saw the script, saw that it was the same character as usual so still a guy, and hired a guy to voice that character. It's just that the actress shouldn't have been hired to begin with. This reminds of some Spanish speaking anons talking about the Spanish dub for Barbie and saying the tranny Barbie is voiced by a woman. I'm sure nothing in the script indicates he's a man so that must be why. Meanwhile the actor's real voice was so male sounding I was in shock when hearing it.
>Goku was voiced by a man (it's a woman in the Japanese dub)First of all, you have to hate yourself to do that willingly. Second of all I don't have an opinion on the matter because the dub is garbage to begin with, whether Goku is voiced by a man or a woman wouldn't have changed that. I think adult!Goku being voiced by a grandma in Japanese is ridiculous but it is what it is.
No. 1894406
>>1894392She reads younger because her role is meant to be male. Smooth skin, round features and the absence of typical grown male characteristics is associated with being a young boy if a person is male.
Compared to an actual male actor like Luffy's, she does look very young because of her feminine features. Despite being a similar age, his skin and features are rougher. Since he is an actual man.
No. 1894416
>>1894405>First of all, you have to hate yourself to do that willingly.???
I watched the French-dubbed DB as a kid, I had no choice in that matter because it was the only version available in an era with 56 kbps Internet.
(unsaged off-topic) No. 1894549
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a page from a tif saying being friends with cis men makes her feel inadequate, but being friends with trans guys and cis girls makes her feel worse. again, tell me how we're supposed to see trans people as the gender they claim to be, yet they can publicly admit to not seeing their fellow trans people as their identities.
No. 1894570
>>1894549Very telling how she wrote "trans guys or cis girls makes me worse" effectively putting them in the same category. Surely, as a true and honest man, it would be worse to be amongst women because she's
sooo not like us. Isn't she
validated by her fellow TIFs; or is it too much like looking in the mirror?
>I love my friends though…You absolutely do not love them if you have to add that in as a caveat, kek.
No. 1894582
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>>1894285she looks like a qweer female version of matthew modine in full metal jacket kek
No. 1894602
>>1894570i wonder what the end goal for trans rights activists are. is this what they want? to have people in constant state of discontent around their friends whether they are cis or trans?
the problem will always be:
"i feel inadequate around cis (guys) people of my gender because they remind me of what i will never be"
"i feel inadequate around cis (girls) people of my sex because they remind me of what i am trying not to be"
"i feel inadequate around trans (guys) people because they remind me of what i will never be
and what i'm trying not to be"
trans ideology puts people in a perpetual state of malaise. if anything, gender abolition should be the thing they're fighting for.
No. 1894625
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Another straight woman obsessed with calling herself queer, got it
No. 1894727
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>>1894285bruh these people are so looney. why does it have to be “Trans Joy”? why can’t it just be joy?
No. 1894814
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>>1894285She looks retarded lmao you’d think trannies would never associate with one piece because it makes fun of them
No. 1894837
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>>1879653>>1894285Watching the show with my boyfriend and I make fun of this character every time they’re on screen for looking just like Ollie London
No. 1894891
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>>1894664You can see tweets and replies using nitter:
>https://nitter.net>>1894674I agree. People should be boycotting Netflix after
Cuties.
>>1894868Thanks!
No. 1894929
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TIFs are starting to reach TIM levels of "get those freaks a bathroom of their own".
No. 1894947
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>>1894570There were some posts going around Twitter the other day where the TIFs were talking about having transitioned because they wanted that 'male friendship/brotherhood'… their experience with which, I'm guessing, is from female-written fanfics. So ofc they're still not getting the
experience they're looking for, kek
No. 1895007
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Woman LARPing as a gay man is planning to invade a gay male space and she's worried her experience is going to be diminished by other LARPing women doing the same thing. Pic related is her. She hasn't even had the tit chop yet because she's too fat for the surgery.
In a reply to her OP she promised to report back on how the camp goes. I hope we get another story like the one from that TIF who went to a gay orgy and realized none of the men wanted to have sex with her so she went off to cry in the bathroom.
No. 1895011
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Typical trans behaviour is spreading lies, and calling people who fact checked you bigots
No. 1895019
>>1895007>age range is 18-29>centered around people who are olderis being in your 20s considered old now
I just turned 30 and I still don't think of myself as old. I wouldn't want to hang out with 18 year olds though, that's weird.
No. 1895036
>>1895007>I'm not like the other tifs, the gays will only accept ME as one of themIf their self esteem is so low that they troon out, why do so many of them also have a huge ego
>>1895019Your 20s is only old to 18 year olds, which she appears to be cos she says this is her first 18+ event ever
No. 1895050
>>1894366>>1894837I've never watched this show, I have no horse in this race, but tbh it's pathetic that you
nonnie(s) mock other women with your
nigel(s) as a pastime.
>>1894847 is right. The tif just looks like a normal woman, bar the pink hair and the makeup for the show. Admittedly she's not very cute and would not make a cute butch, but plenty of women look like that. Do you live in fucking barbieland?
No. 1895068
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>>1895007>>1895015>>1895018GUARANTEED it'll be 99 percent genderspeshuls, any "trans friendly" event is like that and actual gay moids have their own seedy disgusting bathhouses to go to. Any actual males who would attend this will be bottom of the barrel, furries, NLOBS, and quasi-incels who have learned that pronouns will get them mentally ill pussy.
Also she looks like pic related, kek
No. 1895092
>>1894674>>1894820>>1895066Slop as the term used on 4chan is in the context of "goyslop" as in this content is intentionally mass-produced and low quality to be shoveled to the masses, like the feed given to animals like pigs and cows to fatten them up.
The addition of "goy-" is the 4chan moid part of it as it implies a Jewish hivemind controlling the media making "slop" for the non-Jewish goy (people in Hebrew).
It is a bit of a stretch to claim
>labeling media as slop is strictly 4chan antisemitic implicationsas the media machine in general has long since dropped quality for quantity
No. 1895095
>>1895007So far I have seen four kinds of "stealth"/"passing" individuals:
1. OP is lying.
2. Everyone around OP lies to them that they pass, and OP is retarded enough to believe them.
3. OP is such an ugly deathfat / so botched from cosmetic surgery that most people can tell they're a tranny, but can't tell whether it's FTM or MTF. Non-informed people just think OP is ugly and take their best guess WRT sex.
4. A very small portion of classic HSTS (usually TIFs) who pass pretty well on an appearance level, but their voice, behavior, and the way they move still clocks them. This kind almost always has a very specific style they've found that makes them pass, and they can't deviate from it even slightly because the illusion will be broken if they did. Buck Angel has meticulously groomed herself to look exactly the same for decades, and it works well enough for her—until you see how she moves and hear her stupid frog voice.
There are no actual passing trannies, at least not fully passing ones.
No. 1895106
>>1895050Thank you. Making fun of TIFs is fine (what would the point of this thread be if it weren't kek), but it's embarrassing to be a woman who gives a man a pass to insult another woman for her appearance just because he's the moid you happen to fuck and go on dates with, especially when the woman is so unremarkable-looking. She's not a beautiful woman, but she's not particularly ugly, just plain. She
certainly doesn't look like a whole ass man like Ollie London, though. Comments like
>>1894837 feel like they go beyond just making fun of TIFs and become actually misogynistic.
No. 1895110
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This is so sad, holy shit, and she's getting the chop at the end of the month.
I wonder if she will regret it
No. 1895127
>>1895110what nlog syndrome does to a mf
>>1895095there's a point where deathfats get so fat that you can't always immediately tell. they all have the same moonface and blob body. i guess people just see an obese neckbeard and don't give her a second look, which in her mind means she totally passes
No. 1895135
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>>1895123But Ezra has inner beauty, like you'd find in a rodent.
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reading this made me tear up…tifs are so fucking stupid that it hurts
No. 1895168
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>>1895104my mother is in her late 60s, and we both agree that you're not proper old until you're over 80. Even then, honestly, only the stars and planets are old. everything that lives is young.
>>1895110F
No. 1895182
>>1895168jfc nona despite being in my mid 20s I have a big chronophobia due to my anxiety… thank you for that phrase
nonny…i love you
No. 1895206
>>1895007Girl there is no “older” in 18-29 trannies, that’s the age range of most TIFs. They age out of it and realize it’s just a fad. You could mistake a 20 something for being much older however since the testosterone ages them so badly.
>>1895123I remember my teen sister in the 2010s wanting braces so badly because one of the One Direction boys had them kek. I WISH that young women and girls today would go back to the trend of wanting braces, it’s a lifelong medical commitment just like their hormones and surgeries and it also makes you look special.
No. 1895215
>>1895206>I WISH that young women and girls today would go back to the trend of wanting braces, it’s a lifelong medical commitment just like their hormones and surgeries and it also makes you look special.I am wearing braces right now as an adult, because my wisdom teeth pushed my other teeth so far to the side that it was cutting up the inside of my mouth kek I don't think braces were ever really a trend, it's just a way to fix your teeth, and it's not a lifelong medical commitment aside from wearing a retainer afterward.
There are so many things that TiFs could do to improve their appearance, which lbr is the root cause of their "dysphoria", but permanent mutilation and hormones are offered up on the same platter as exercise and a new wardrobe.
No. 1895316
>>1894366"Might as well be a woman"
Won't that be Ivankov or those he used his gender switching power on?
No. 1895379
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She wants to start testosterone and get the tit chop but doesn't want to be seen as a man I feel like I'm getting brain worms trying to process this.
No. 1895402
>>1895379So basically
>I hate the misogynistic expectations put on me because I'm a woman>But I'm too lazy and cowardly to fight that head-on>Instead, I hope that declaring myself to "not be a woman" earns me a shred of privilege over other women (fuck you, got mine)>But I don't want other women to view me as privileged, either, because that makes me feel guiltyYou can tell these types that they can't have their cake and eat it too, but that won't stop them from trying.
No. 1895453
>>1895206>>1895215I'm wearing braces too and not even retainers are considered a lifelong medical commitment. General rule is that you're going to wear them 2x time of how long you have been wearing braces beforehand. Also
>>1895206 nona this is a really retarded statement to make. Fucked up teeth literally messed up multiple aspects of my health in the long run and getting braces is in no shape or form comparable to tranny shit. It's like saying that getting a cast for your broken bones is a lifelong aesthetic commitment to look special.
No. 1895454
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This one left me speechless
No. 1895460
>>1895454any sane person would come to the conclusion that TIMs are not women, but she's too much of an NLOG for that. so it turns out she's not a women, wow what incredible mental gymnastics.
I also don't believe this really happened. she probably transitioned because she wanted to be cool and fit in. they never want to admit that, so they come up with elaborate reasons. this is a great one because she gets to worship male troons while shitting on women. we all know how much TIFs love to do that.
No. 1895556
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this is so insanely embarrassing
No. 1895574
>>1894947I know anime and movies can influence people and whatever but god damn , these girls that get put on hormones and get their tits cut off can't be this naive about female or male friendships.
Hell , I have five older brothers and none of them have ever had a deeper or more meaningful friendship group in comparison to me just because they were boys and I wasn't.
No. 1895579
>>1895019>>1895036>>1895042>>1895044>>1895182for misogynists, regardless of their political views, the woman "hits the wall" at 18. it used to be 25 or 30 but it gets younger the older these freaks get. this pedophilic mentality is extremely prevalent online and is why you see trannies/manosphere types shitting on women (incl. TIFs but never TIMs) who are barely 20 calling them "used up hags". while geriatric dusty ballsack, crossdressing scrotes get coddled and showered with compliments.
to any fakebois reading this, trooning out won't exempt you from misogyny because even other troons see you as female. chronophobia is caused by scrotes inducing loneliness anxiety in women. 30 isn't that old and living a long, healthy life is something worth celebrating.
No. 1895615
>>1895609>i assumed that every woman secretly hated wearing heels and makeup (i now suspect that at least 30% do)A very large portion of women don't wear make up, or only wear it on special occasions, and at least half of women have never even worn high heels. Young women also tend to forget that "older" women exist (because hitting 30 means you're irrelevant, and 40 don't even exist) and assume that everyone keeps the youth mentality that appearance is super important. I've seen my friends moms wear makeup maybe once or twice during my whole childhood, they just don't give a shit and live their lives. They don't "hate" makeup or heels they just don't care for it so they don't do it. It's also not a secret, you can easily find women who'll tell you "oh I just don't really wear makeup".
Tifs and the whole trans movement ignore what real women/men are actually like because they're so self-absorbed they never even look around them.
No. 1895652
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update to noelle's newsletter 1/2
No. 1895653
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2/2>>1895652
No. 1895663
>>1895652>>1895653How can anyone be this level of retarded? Does she also really think she looks like that drawing? No one ever sees her wearing a skirt or a dress and thinks “omg it’s a boy in a dress/skirt!!” Like, no, at all, geez, why do all of the trannies and enbies have to be the main characters 24/7? No one gives a fuck if a girl is going out in a skirt showing her hairy legs on a summer day, specially not at countries like where she lives.
She would’ve killed herself if she have had to live in a 3rd world country during her teenage years.
No. 1895672
>>1895652>>1895653I am begging her to divorce Molly, log off, replace her smartphone with a flip-phone, and go on a cross-country trip or something. She's so self-obsessed, impulsive, and indecisive, and so much of her "art" is navel-gazing shit about "wanting to be more than one thing" and clothes. She needs the industrial strength version of touching grass.
>>1895664It's because Molly left her boyfriend (not husband) for Noelle and married her instead pretty much as soon as Noelle started becoming more successful. This happened awhile ago—around four years ago, IIRC. There's speculation that she trooned out because she can sense Molly would prefer a man over her, but chose Noelle because she's successful and would do anything for her.
No. 1895739
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I know "lol furries" but why didn't the artist draw a doe with fake antlers and the chest scars rather than a full stag?
No. 1895775
>>1895652She really thinks people are observing her at all times and anyone gives a shit about what random girl is wearing.
>>1895653Sounds like regret.
No. 1895856
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it hurts when you see it could be a pretty girl under the delusion and eyeliner beard on her face
No. 1895909
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You dont look like a man now but you do sorta resemble an ostrich
No. 1895914
>>1895095Spot on list nona, thoses are the 4 "passing" options.
I do think a very small subset of troons could pass in the long term too, (especially around people who don't know about trans people, they just think it's an ugly woman or a tiny frog voiced man) but the second you find out they're trans they no longer pass (putting them in the 4th option). Knowing someone is trans is literally incompatible with them passing in your eyes. There's no famous trans person who passes no matter how much surgery they get, because we all know Ellen Page is a female - so she can't ever actually pass as a male. All she can do is hope people lie to her face about it. IF there's an actual passing famous trans person it would be someone no one acutally thinks is trans, like if Elon Musk had secretly been female all along.
No. 1895919
>>1895914>ugly womanThat's not passing that's being clocked as a ugly woman
>>1895672>>1895687But Noelle is the femme lesbian, usually the femmes want men and butch lesbians would troon as a result this is so fucking unfair, but the reverse is possible because lesbians are women, so you cannot tell who in a lesbian couple would troon, makes me extend my thought into thinking tifs are not only still women but essentially change nothing about themselves, tranny ideology alone is so fucking unfair to the whole goddamn world. Tifs just want to be special. Doesn't even matter anymore to me sage for emotional tirade
No. 1895965
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>>1894549>>1895573She writes like a worse version of Nikki Maxwell, kek
No. 1895980
>>1895914The fact that people are becoming more and more aware of troons' existence is absolutely making it harder for them to pass. In the early 19th century, a woman named Margaret Anne Bulkley took the name James Barry and posed as a man to enter medical school, after which she kept posing as a man for decades in order to keep practicing medicide (since women weren't allowed to) so she obviously passed even without testosterone and other medical troon stuff. I think it must've been due to strict gender roles and the fact that back then the idea that a woman would pretend to be a man was so preposterous that it didn't even occur to anyone. People saw a dude named "James" with a high voice, small frame, but male mannerisms and a doctor's coat, and they probably shrugged and assumed 'he' had some kind of a condition that made 'him' that way, they didn't consider the possibility that she was actually a woman because it wasn't seen as a possibility back then.
Also fucking kek at the wikipedia article on her avoiding the use of pronouns, ofc she has been anachronistically transed.
>>1895919NTA but anon meant that some TIMs can pass as ugly women to people (most likely moids) who know nothing about troons.
No. 1896046
>>1895542come on now, feminine women aren't feminine because they're scared of being seen as lesbians this is ridiculous
>>1895961i feel like it's mostly the second picture being more flattering though, with features like these she will be pretty with any style
No. 1896106
File: 1694368166680.jpg (Spoiler Image,296.53 KB, 720x2693, fleshhog.jpg)
how do the surgeons who do this think any of it looks convincing? of course the comments are hugboxing her
No. 1896121
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I can’t believe every 4ch pooner thread isn’t just larping, is this such a common experience for TiFs?? Every reply is like “boys don’t cry, detrans now!!!”, jokes truly write themselves. All of their typings are so feminine even as they parrot racial slurs from scrotes all day long.
>>1896106>put your 2 inch of wet discolored noodle inside my bucket bussy No. 1896164
>>1896121Tifs are some of the most emotional and weepy people I've ever met. It's not even to point out how "fembrained" they are because that's not fucking normal for a woman. Maybe a young girl, but these ones are way too old to be like this. Unlike tims you can have coherent conversations with tifs, but there's always this 'off' feeling about them. This sense that they're on a hair-
trigger and could go from normal to totally unhinged at the most innocuous comment. Maybe test makes you really emotional. Would make sense, as well as them being trained to be sensitive and distrustful. The constant crying and shit's not normal for anyone their age.
No. 1896175
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>>1896106Literally weisswurst. Spoilered because it's so damn similar kek
No. 1896208
>>1895652>it feels so important, and it feels so arbitraryIt is arbitrary, but it is not important at all.
>I put on this gel, and the world sees me differently. I put on these clothes instead of those and it sees me differently again. No…. it doesn't. If "the world" is noticing you at all, it notices a sad, mentally ill, woman in a long skirt vs a sad, mentally ill, woman in a short skirt.
Maybe
you feel differently, but the world doesn't give a shit. Jfc.
No. 1896212
>>1895206there's literally a mid-40's tif in this thread
>>1885075anecdotally, I know a bunch of arrested development tifs in their 30's. It's literally peter pan syndrome
No. 1896221
>>1896106>pussyanother lesbian lost. we're never making it out of heterosexuality
>inb4 but she replied to a TIMi think she just replied to be nice to him because terminal handmaiden brain
>>1896164>Maybe test makes you really emotionalyes, moids are some of the worst crybabies/weaklings. look at the male suicide rate
No. 1896381
>>1896106unfortunately this necro looking thing honestly is the best I've ever seen (granted I've only seen those on these threads but still). Except the obvious pussy lips (or what probably are sewn up pussy lips) right underneath ruins the illusion that this was a fake dick put on a man. I hope for her sake she kept her vagina and isn't on t. At least then she can chop this ridiculous thing off one day
>>1896134I'm hoping it's surgical to make the hole but it's probably not and the surgeon has a sick sense of humour considering the rest of the dick doesn't have any.
>>1896294Yeah, they really think/convince themselves that transitioning turns them into men with top scars like how moids think it'll turn them into females with a dick
No. 1896592
>>1896426You mean this image?
>>1881875 It haunts me, too. I can't see one of these stitched-on weisswursts without thinking of it, since they always
look like they'll fall off for one reason or another.
No. 1896596
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>>1896106So even if a surgeon does manage to get the shape right, it still looks like wet PlayDoh.
You could get medical tattooing to get the colours more right, but there's other stuff like if the dimensions are wrong (some tifs inexplicably get themselves mutated coke cans, or laughably small worms?) or the placement wrong (too high, too low). Despite all the variation natural genitals can have, most tif phallo just always looks off. This is one of the top posts in r/phallo and it still looks like a prosthetic. At least she knows how to take care of top surgery scars unlike other tifs…
No. 1896613
>>1896596This is probably the best result of medical transition (specifically T use, double mastectomy, and phallo) that I've seen, but there are still so many obvious tells that clock her, even in a stagnant photo that may be edited. I'm sure this is all more obvious in motion, too, and any illusion of passing would shatter completely if someone were to make any contact with the meat sock. Honestly though, I'm just impressed that she's managed to make it two years like this without anything being visibly necrotic, even though the post title makes it sound like she's going about life somewhat normally and
not just spending all day trying to maintain her results. But I do wonder how long it will stay this way. It always feels like extreme cosmetic procedures (like taking hormones for transition or getting phallo) put the people who get them on timers that portend to the inevitable early decay of their bodies.
No. 1896625
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Craziest cope I've ever fucking seen
No. 1896648
>>1896625This looks like if an asexual tried to draw a porn scene. Everything is there, bodily fluids, genital close-ups, but it's not arousing at all due to something. (I am not heterosexual and I'm aroused by even moidish vagina drawings).
>>1896596I somehow got the feeling of her being at most 160 cm tall from this selfie.
No. 1896729
>>1896596And she STILL says "feeling safe" while changing in a locker room is a really big deal to her. Tell me you're female without telling me you're female.
But of course she like all other trans people want every other woman to both be and feel unsafe when males come into their locker rooms with their real dicks out
No. 1896731
>>1896596Serious question for anons who browse such reddit threads, do males ever come along to troll the tifs with their nudes, pretending to be trans?
I'd think they'd love to do that since it also forces females to look at their dicks, granted the females are balding and delusional but there are still plenty of guys who use tifs for easy sex because they know they're desperate and easily manipulated so it would seem obvious that they'd do it online too you know?
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No. 1896929
>>1896904Kek, If I didn’t hate preddit I would create an account for the sole purpose of asking the mods why they delete those
valid trans peoples’ posts since there’s “literally no difference” between a tranny and a normal person.
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This random TIF artist I happen to follow went on a whole tirade how housing ad's are not inclusive of 'men and transmen' enough and that every ad that describes themselves as a 'space with afab femmes' are actually terf and radfem dogwhistles and misandrists lmao.
No. 1896950
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>>1896948 Like go ahead and live with all frat boys and let women live in their female only spaces in peace. See how that turns out. Can't imagine being so pressed about this as a 31 year old.
No. 1897044
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All these words to not say she's a bi woman.
No. 1897067
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>>1897044This is the queer nonbinary fantasy btw.
No. 1897166
>>1896902assuming they have a sexual relationship or at the very least touch each other a lot like through hugs and just general brushing each other, she's already getting a micro-dose of t which half these "lesbians are a porn category but gays are men in relationships" tifs are on anyways.
Also yet again showing how tifs are just trying to escape misogyny not realising it's not them that's the issue but society making womanhood hell
>>1896929Make a tim account to act absolutely obnoxious and call out the nonsense then don't respond to the replies kek. You can shitstir like crazy and it seems they're overall scared to talk against each other because they need to ensure they don't accidentally go against a new narrative or something so you can say the most obvious and blatant truths you'd be crucified for as a woman but they have to treat the questions or statements properly because they're answering a fellow tim not a woman they can just silence or tell not to think about the changes. Take a snapshot in time, act like a tim from that time and it will go against the current narrative but built on the same circular logic so they fall over themselves figuring out how to correct you but not "invalidate" you or the past rules of trans. Tifs also worship tims so you can actually talk gender critical to a lot of them and they'll listen to you if they think you're a man not an evil woman kek
>>1896950>men are fruity/faggots if they don't totally conform to my (conservitard) masculine ideals and the fruity sub-class don't have the same evils as "normal" mensaid in spirit by every straight chick who thought getting with the nerdy boy meant he'd be less of a misogynist or generalized scrote
>>1896995it's not when there's a big difference in north america between white and non-white looking jews and the white ones are mostly ignored by your average american unless you come across some jewspiracy nutjob who's autistic about last names. This isn't the 90s anymore. Twitter/tiktok is filled with young white jews who've never experienced discrimination in their life, who were never raised different from any other white kid, and are prone to co-opting the experiences of actually discrimintated people's lives (including jewish people who look jewish and experience actual shit). Partially built on their parents anxieties making them over expectant of shit, partially because this is the age of if you aren't oppressed you're evil so why not act like you've faced discrimination when you have something you can point to in your lineage even if it's bogus.