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This is a series of threads about fakebois and trans-identified females (TIFs).
"Fakebois" are girls who pretend to be boys, either by becoming trannies or larping biological males (usually the former). Fakebois style and present themselves as androgynous or feminine-looking boys, or wearing girls' clothing and make-up while insisting on being addressed with he/him (or occasionally they/them) pronouns and take great offense at being gendered as female.
These threads are also now a catch-all for any minor TIF cows without threads of their own. Even "serious" troons, (like Kalvin Garrah and Ellen Page) are fair game, as are horrific troon surgeries and pregnancies. Just remember to spoiler that shit.
**TIFs, no one cares if you think you're ~more legit~ than the cows posted here.** Additionally, occasional discussion of fujoshis is fine, but don't sperg and infight about it.
Notable FtM-related subreddits:https://www.reddit.com/r/FtM/https://www.reddit.com/r/FtM_irl/https://www.reddit.com/r/gaytransguyshttps://www.reddit.com/r/FTM_SELFIES/https://www.reddit.com/r/FTMfemininity/
Old threads by order of recency:>>>/snow/1718961>>>/snow/1698862>>>/snow/1675940>>>/snow/1642478>>>/snow/1611177>>>/snow/1585143>>>/snow/1565584>>>/snow/1541490>>>/snow/1509413>>>/snow/1474951>>>/snow/1432686>>>/snow/1400739>>>/snow/1366943>>>/snow/1338847>>>/snow/1303022>>>/snow/1251681>>>/snow/1208873>>>/snow/1137677>>>/snow/1095226>>>/snow/1032764>>>/snow/979294>>>/snow/895014>>>/snow/720444>>>/snow/570991>>>/snow/465430>>>/snow/276054>>>/snow/45564
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Girl I went to school with. I checked up on her and was sad to see she trooned out. She looked so beautiful before.
sage for OT but I have a mutual whose based on 99% of issues but for some reason she won't comprise in being "respectful" towards troons TIMs and TIFs, her logic being that gender is a social construct
her exact quote >i don't understand the obsession with upholding the category of woman, which is social and constructed around inferiority and subordination to masculinity. femininity is the 'other' and will always be inferior to the universal masculine. 'woman is not born: she is made' as dworkin said, so female liberation can't be achieved as long as the concept of womanhood and manhood remain untouched, since they only institurionalize male sexual domination. sex and gender reinforce each other and women's oppression has both a biological and a social component. while it's primarily sex based, it is reinforced by the hierarchy of gender. it's reductive to ignore any of the two, because anyone who is born female experiences misogyny, regardless of how they identify as, but so do the people who are percieved and 'pass' as women. i agree with catherine mackinnon's stance for the most part, she offers a way better explanation than i could ever do in a few paragraphs.>i believe in gender abolition, so different sex characteristics will be treated as neutral, without being assigned roles, since this always leads to oppression. but until we achieve a genderless, utopic society, i think that gnc people should be allowed to express themselves how they want, which includes dysphoric trans people and their right to transition.
it seems like she hasn't examined what drives people to transition because in all cases it ends being pathological and dysfunctional, plus I don't think she has researched and evaluated the safety profiles of the medications and surgical procedures, which are dreadful. also how does transitioning itself not reinforce a binary?
the social component of women's oppression is merely an epiphenomenon of their biology, which is inescapable (unlike for TIMs who may opt out at any point).
samefag but you can also point out to her the absolute paucity of any valid
neuroscience studies backing up the existence of transgenderism, there is simply no good evidence for distinct biomarkers nor have any consistent patterns been observed in trans-identifying individuals besides comorbid mental illnesses and developmental disorders
>>1742403>Transsexuals, and transsexually constructed lesbianfeminists, drag us back to answering such old questions by asking them in a new way. And thus feminists debate and divide because we keep focusing on patriarchal questions of who is a woman and who is a lesbian-feminist. It is important for us to realize that these may well be nonquestions and that the only answer we can give to them is that we know who we are. We know that we are women who are born with female chromosomes and anatomy, and that whether or not we were socialized to be so-called normal women, patriarchy has treated and will treat us like women. Transsexuals have not had this same history. No man can have the history of being born and located in this culture as a woman. He can have the history of wishing to be a woman and of acting like a woman, but this gender experience is that of a transsexual, not of a woman. Surgery may confer the artifacts of outward and inward female organs but it cannot confer the history of being born a woman in this society.>One should be able to make choices about who one wants to be. But should one be able to make any choice? Should a white person attempt to become black, for example? The question is a moral one, which asks basically about the rightness of the choice, not the possibility of it. Should persons be able to make choices that disguise certain facets of our existence from others who have a right to know—choices that feed off others’ energies, and reinforce oppression?>Ultimately, women must ask if transsexually constructed lesbian-feminists are our peers. Are they equal to us? Questions of equality often center on proportional equality, such as “equal pay for equal work,” or “equal rights to health care.” I do not mean equal in this sense. Rather I use equality to mean: “like in quality, nature, or status” and “capable of meeting the requirements of a situation or a task.” In these senses transsexuals are not equal to women and are not our peers. They are neither equal in “quality, nature of status” nor are they “capable of meeting the requirements of the situation” of women who have spent their whole lives as women.>Transsexually constructed lesbian-feminists challenge women’s preserves of autonomous existence. Their existence within the women’s community basically attests to the ethic that women should not live without men—or without the “reconstructed man.” How feminists assess and meet this challenge will affect the future of our genuine movement, self-definition, and power of being.
Send her a pdf of the transsexual empire. Whiteness and blackness are also socially constructed and it's obvious that no one should be advocating for transracialism and for black people to stop calling themselves black.
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these are the same women who read yaoi and obesseded over her "gay boys" as teenagers
Women are 32% more likely to die with a male surgeon. That risk isn’t present for AMAB.
We have a different frame and immune system and weren’t used in med studies till 1993 or as car crash test dummies till 2022 which means female car crash victims
were 26% more likely to die. Your friend sounds idealistic and stupid. She’s grandstanding to feel safe but if we lose the ability to define our biological reality in law we lose the ability to fight for our specific needs based on physiology.
>>1742678>sex trafficking, domestic violence and sexual assault are victimising the women in my country on the daily.
You cannot state that these issues affect women specifically if you refuse to acknowledge women as a category that can be defined by some other means than identity or performance.
I'm sorry your friend is a retard, nona.
Transsexualism/transgenderism necessarily reduces female existence into flat stereotypes of personality traits and outward presentation. Being female, from girl to woman, is an entire life experience beyond that.
Gender, as an oppression marker, and the biological differences that made way for oppression, will not be abolished if we spend time reinforcing its very structure to validate others.
>>1742678>the social manifestation of oppression is gender, which is a metaphysical concept that often reinforces the rigid distinction between sex categories and not the other way around?
That's why we want sex-based rights. Women could stop calling themselves women but they will still need sex-based rights because they have a female reproductive system, they have different needs than men. How can women fight for those rights if they can't define themselves as a group and organize? They can't. You can't protect a victim
if you refuse to identify the perpetrator. Men are the perpetrators. Your friend is blaming women by refusing to understand that TIM are men. Women shouldn't have to prove who insult, assault, rape and kill them. Victims
shouldn't have to share safe spaces with their perpetrators. Stating the obvious that women are physiologically different from men doesn't mean that they are inferior to men. Even in a perfect world where misogyny and sex-roles don't exist, female humans still have different needs. Is it dehumanizing to recognize that women have on average smaller heads, so they would still need smaller hats? By wearing a hat that fits my small head, I'm accepting the reality that my head is small, not that I'm dumb because men believe that women are dumb because their heads are smaller. lol
Anon this isn't an outstanding opinion at all, adjacent beliefs were common among older TIFs about a decade ago, before AGP propaganda created the current obsession for the evil TERF
boogeyman and turned gender abolitionism into a "TERF
>until we achieve a genderless, utopic society, i think that gnc people should be allowed to express themselves how they want, which includes dysphoric trans people and their right to transition
This right here gives me straight up nostalgia. Maybe I was just blessed to interact with a privileged bubble of TIFs with braincells but the first specimens I met were more or less blackpilled abolitionists who either thought we were too far gone and would never obtain this so called genderless society, or were tired of working towards an utopia they would never witness for themselves and decided they'd rather find a solution for the present time. Permanent solution to a temporary problem, sort of, but since the temporary problem would likely last beyond their lifetime, they considered it the best course of action. Non-binaries would have had no arguments for their existence if not for these people honestly (although they don't even need arguments anymore…)
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~ t h e b u l g e ~
Even if you showed a devout Christian all of the places where the Bible contradicts itself, and made a list of 100 reasons why Heaven and Hell can’t possibly exist, they’d shrug and say something like “God works in mysterious ways, you just gotta ~believe~, Anon. I hope you accept Him into your heart one day.”
Think of your friend as a religious extremist but with trannies. She’s gonna keep believing in gender identities no matter what you tell her if she’s committed to those beliefs hard enough, because otherwise a bunch of inconvenient truths about the reality of men’s oppression of women would come crashing down around her. Some women don’t peak from merely listening to feminist reason, they have to be personally sexually harassed by a greasy moid in a dress claiming woman status before they’ll agree that the TERFs have been right all along.
>>1742678>womanhood is a political, patriarchal construct before it's biology
Why the fuck does she think patriarchal structures exist in the first place? To control a woman's body is to control her progeny. Women have been subjugated throughout history because we're the sex that gives birth. Gender roles and stereotypes are just tools to reinforce that biology-based oppression.
Your friend is a smug, pretentious pseudo-intellectual and she sounds insufferable. You must be incredibly patient to keep someone like that as a friend.
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Got myself a computer, so I coloured in my TiF timeline (and fixed the first one's orangutang arms ok kek)! Share this helpful info graphic with your friends!
>>1742403>because anyone who is born female experiences misogyny, regardless of how they identify as, but so do the people who are percieved and 'pass' as women.
The argument that only the men who actually pass as women experience misogyny, whereas anyone born female no matter how they present themselves experiences it, proves that you only experience misogyny when people know or think that you're female, it's not related to which gender stereotypes you fit. Which is why>i believe in gender abolition, so different sex characteristics will be treated as neutral, without being assigned roles
is a weird take. Sure, things would be better without gender stereotypes but it doesn't mean that suddenly sex characteristics would be treated as neutral and equal. Being female in itself is what has negative connotations for men, and the stereotypes about women are just an extension of that. Also, I can't imagine what kind of mental gymnastics you need to do in order to say "I believe in gender abolition but I support the trans ideology and transitioning", there's nothing that reinforces gender more than that.
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No scroll porn bump
No "feminist" tranny gets offended when women are insulted and generalized, because trannies don't even see themselves as women. They know misogyny is only targeted at "cis" women, not their own inclusive definition of woman. Every trans wammyn is literally misgendering herself in her head 24/7.
Something to tell your libfem friends. Once you pay attention to this, it cannot be unseen.
It's so funny, down to the awkward way it is phrased. "Manipulate the bulge", yeah that is the sex to do, mhm.
TIF has this bizarre obsession with packing to the point they freak out at the prospect of going through airport security, meanwhile I doubt anyone has ever looked at someone's pants to see whether they're a man or woman.
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IF my my sister did this, I would never speak to her again
Ohh wow, thank you my brain misfired, I thought the two are teenaged sisters and the nephew is one of their parents' sibling's child.
I don't even know why, my own sister has children lol
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I wonder why she got nominated for playing a woman
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I saw Bella Ramsey said this and every libfem on Twitter is acting like she's a trans icon. I don't care what people call me either, does that make me a TIF now?
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Omg this king was so ahead of their time
that image just flooded me with nostalgia holy shit
I don't know, I doubt there's enough roles to warrant such clowning, I think it's just a fashionable brain worm these people get. Artsy ultra liberal people are probably more at risk than the average person.
On a side note it's really annoying to read they slash them (the only modern tranny movie I watched, it's kinda funny retarded) pronouns in a text, it's confusing and creates ambiguity about who is being talked about.
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Huh, she has a good point you know, I definitely always thought you needed long hair and makeup to be an actor. I'm glad this woman with shorthair and thick eyeliner wearing a skirt over her pants is there to be the first non hyper femme woman in Hollywood truly groundbreaking stuff
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I brought up body size and these was her responses
in the last thread mentioned a hypothesis that TIFs prefer fat blue haired characters and neg on that tif welcomic with the 5 way stereotype poly yaoi webtoon.
The blue haired fatty tif is not only attainable. These are deeply insecure NLOGs we're talking about here, so if the TIF character is hotter and gets all the boys, she's competition.
The audacity of saying "I don't think you understand how gender and sex are constructed" right before implying that the differences between women of different sizes are comparable to the differences between men and women lmao. Men's and women's clothing sizes aren't the same, men and women don't have the same fat distribution, men don't have female hips and breasts etc. Sure as a woman you can wear loose sweatshirts and t-shirts from the men's section (men almost always look ridiculous in clothing fitted for women though), what's her point? How is all of this an argument in favor of trannies? If anything they're the ones who think that putting on a skirt makes them a woman.
Also, off-topic but damn, I would be so irritated to argue with a friend who writes like this in private conversations. The whole "i- :crying emoji:", "let me introduce you to clothing sizes, bet you've never heard of that before!!", "you're just saying stuff" etc., doesn't sound like a genuine debate and more like a teenager/TRA being defensive on Twitter.
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They finally made a FTM version of the bathroom defense PSA
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FTM culture being what was popular among teen girls a few years ago. Also id-pol is just a marketing tactic nowadays no wonder corporations adopted it quickly
Classic example of a hit dog hollering, kek. I'd pay to see her try to explain why her mansona is more valid
than the others
They don't, lmao. Most actual gay men aren't even aware that fujoshis exist because they're jock/normie types. Gay scrotes who do
know about it are ambivalent at worst and fudanshis at best.
Jesus Christ, I can't even tell what she's trying to say here. We're trying to say that the historic basis for oppression is the physiological differences between men and women, and her rebuttal is>But clothing sizes!1!
What the fuck about clothing sizes? If you're shaped like a brick and you can shop in the men's section, good for you. But some of us have wider hips, larger breasts, or are pregnant. We have to settle with whatever crap is in the women's section because it's what fits. But clothing is such a minor issue compared to all the other shit we have to deal with. I'm not even sure why she brought it up or how it's relevant. Is she trying to say that women are functionally the same because she likes to shop in the men's section? Good lord.
Women have a higher mortality rate for basically every common disease because scientists historically only used male subjects in clinical trails and only describe male symptoms in textbooks. We're often forced to choose between children or our career because scrotes still
barely contribute to child-rearing in this supposedly "post-feminist" country where there's no public childcare. In many states, women now have to carry a fetus they can't afford or care for to term, sometimes without exceptions for rape. Feminine hygiene products are taxed as luxury items. Companies will often decide whether a woman deserves a promotion or extra work based on how likely she is to get pregnant/start a family. And that's just in Burgerland. When people kill newborns in India, it's because they have vaginas, not because of how the babies will probably identify as adults.
Your friend is profoundly retarded and you're wasting your energy even discussing this topic with her.
Does she wear oversized masks to protect other from covid? Does she think that female workers should wear ill-fitted protective clothing and risk their own and others' life? Your friend is in denial. I'm way taller and bigger than her and most of the time I can't wear men's clothes because I'm not shaped like a man. By refusing to name the problem, she is gaslighting women and actively supporting white men.https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/poor-fitting-protective-clothing-women-still-acceptable-angus-long>The problem is that most PPE is designed for men, so finding appropriate sizes and shapes for women can be a struggle. Protective Clothing is often manufactured to a standard male model, rendering it a poor fit for women as well as for some men from specific ethnic minority groups. The same can be said of other types of PPE, including boots, eye protection, hard hats and gloves.https://www.tortoisemedia.com/audio/episode-1-morally-indefensible-ppe/>When the pandemic hit, Caroline Criado Perez was inundated with messages from female healthcare workers telling her that their PPE – things like masks and goggles – didn’t fit. In this first episode of her brand new investigative series, join Caroline as she goes on the hunt for missing data and asks: can we fix PPE?
That's why TIFs calling themselves men is ridiculous and fueled by internalized misogyny. They are denying themselves the possibility of liberating themselves from men. They can't conceptualize a free woman. Being a woman is intrinsically negative. It's the absolute opposite of feminism.
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Huh? That's a strange thing to wonder about, even stranger to not ask if it comes to mind, yet stranger to associate it with patriotism.
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Literally a whole identity attached to clothing which is unnecessary because I’m pretty damn sure women wearing suits wasn’t abnormal when she was growing up
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Which was most likely not an issue for her. She grew up in an environment where women wearing dresses, pants, hoodies, wasn’t weird. I’m pretty sure she grew up with a handful of tomboy characters in tv as well.
I really do not understand where people like her are coming from when she focuses on clothes to that extent. No was that the US was that strict. Maybe it was her parents but schools and their community impact individuals more than family/household according to this one psych course I took.
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These people are so milquetoast and uncurious they don't even explore pop culture outside of current top 10, just watch Kardashians and listen to TSwift and think that's all there is. The only literature they're aware of is Harry Potter. They're incredibly sheltered, that's the only explanation.
Are these people from abusive
households or something? Since when is a western woman wearing a suit new or rebellious? You can wear what you want because you don't live in a country that forces women to wear head coverings or face death. You have always been able to wear what you want. You rebelled 0.
Same.>I'm so good at playing women but also i'm so special and Not Like the Other Girls!!!
like stfu you're just another female actress playing female roles.
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I could give you a mirror
To show you disappointment
I could give you a history
Could you ever listen in to me?
- Annie singing to gendies, probably
Lmao, like a bartender would even care that much.>>1745517>No whorish spaghetti straps and short shorts
Oh lord. Yeah, definitely a child growing up in a conservative religious household.
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>Twitter user claims there's no "good queer representation"
>Everybody and their mom mentions Heartwhatever as sample.
>No one seems to mention Boyfriends and their toxic story.
Both stories sucks, but do Boyfriends get a pass because the author is ftm?
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I see your Annie Lennox and I give you another androgyny queen.
same anon and sorry for OT, while I was looking up the author, I found this funny thing about some changes she did in her first book, Solitaire:
"In the very beginning, Becky and Evelyn are talking about the Harry Potter Snily thing, in the 2015 version, Tori says something along the lines of 'So would it be better if Harry didn't exist and there were no movies or books?'. But, in the 2020 version, she says that we should just get over it."
alice oseman's books are full of cringy modern day references and are preachy as all fuck, loveless especially was a fucking nightmare when it came to it - each and every single character in the book was insufferable in one way or another and there were multiple scenes of the lgbt head 'owning' a terfy gay a in a very r/thathappened way
not to mention her self-insert character in loveless is basically an aroace version of a fakeboi who's of course, into fanfiction, masturbates to it, and wont shut up about it given every opportunity to talk about fanfic and how horny she is for it.
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TiFs are too easy to spot. Username and tattoo lol
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this makes me want to die. WHY would you not get laser hair removal first?
The thing is that she had a part of her body flayed to create a non-functioning abomination that vaguely looks like a penis if you glance at it from a distance out of the corner of your eye, and that has a better than 50% chance of making her permanently disabled.
The answer is probably something like "I couldn't afford it" or "My doctor said we can do that later" or "I can just shave it, it's no big deal".
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I used (and still am) a tomboy. I swear these tifs would be the same people that tell me I'm a "man" because I have "different" hobbies and because men clothes are more comfortable than dresses and heels. I'm not less of a woman for it.
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We already know that agp smirk means narcissism. But why do tifs always have this retarded grimace?
nta but can you please stop being retarded and constantly going>it's okay to say she
whenever nonnas are using "they" to refer to a group. In this instance referring to the "tifs who always have this retarded grimace" having an "in-joke" and looking "girly".
said, I was referring to "they" as TIFs plural
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I've noticed that unattractive, insecure people tend to double down and make ugly faces intentionally. Eg the soyboy gaping face, fatties like Pheebs who take incredibly unflattering photos of their double chins, etc. It's like pre-empting insults, "you can't call me ugly because I'm being ugly on purpose!". >>1748090
NTA but to be fair, it's a pretty easy mistake to make and I respect commitment to misgendering.
Sage for sperging.
My native language is gendered. I always used swapped gender to refer to myself since I can remember myself and never had any issue swapping language for somebody else. Might be controversial, but I strongly believe grammatical gender is related to the concept of gender as a whole. Language shapes the way we think and perceive reality around us in really subtle ways and gendered language works the same as other types of gender conditioning, hence why objects perceived as feminine are often described with feminine adjectives and associated with women/femininity; and vice versa. Same works with names too. Many, if not most, names are gendered because they have heavily implied gender stereotypes behind their history and etymology.
Neither changing names nor swapping pronouns feels like a big deal that requires mental gymnastics to justify doing so because the whole thing on itself is same as wearing pants instead of skirts: it's all aspects of gender construct and swapping language (which, once again, does shape the way we perceive things) is a normal thing for gender non conforming people or even as just a way to break stereotypes imo. That is also why I think misgendering isn't a thing altogether, there's no "wrong" way to refer to oneself or people around you since gender isn't real.
I am however aware that we don't live in vacuum and that apart of subtle gender markers pronouns still refer to sexes, so I use sex based pronouns to avoid muddying waters and I do misgender trannies at every given opportunity. I might be reading way too deep into this, but could it be that the way society treats name/pronoun swapping nowadays became a part of general reactionary knee-jerk reaction thanks to TRAs? These things usually work like pendulums, one side getting radically insane inevitably breeds radicalized opposition. I did notice through past 10 years that the louder trannies are, the more gender conforming a lot of self-proclaimed gender criticals become on average. The way pronouns and names are treated nowadays is just one of small ways it manifests. We have people who think that changing them somehow makes you biologically a whole different entity, making the opposing side to believe there's no way for people to swap pronouns and change names without massive cognitive dissonance and delusion.
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It's cause it's from her skin, which already had hair and will grow more hair especially due to testosterone. They try to take a piece of skin which doesn't have too much hair but of course it can still grow hair later. So this happens. Even if they do the laser from what i read it doesn't help much?
(About the image) Not really milky but i've noticed every time someone randomly drops into a conversation to say their name it's some flavor of troon. I just click on the profile and see pronouns or the trans flag right away. Like here the context was a video of Spencer's the store and she just jumps in to say it's her name in a quirky way. I've seen this happen now so many times, in non trans related places, such a weird way to validate yourself?
>>1748154>> I strongly believe grammatical gender is related to the concept of gender as a whole
Gendering words is related to gender?? Well fuck nonny
that changes everything!
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Any nonas here 90 Day Fiance fans? The franchise will have it's first couple that consists of a trans person. A American TiF is moving to Colombia to marry her girlfriend. When I first saw the trailer for the upcoming season I thought something was odd about the American Gabriel. Tuesday I learned that the weird feeling I got from Gabriel was because "he's" a transman.https://people.com/tv/90-day-the-other-way-season-4-features-coming-out-story-43-year-age-gap-surreal-life-changes/
The franchise has already had gay and lesbian couples so it was only a matter of time before we get a trans perosn. Looks like the major storyline for the Gabriel/Isabel couple will be Gab coming out to Isabel's parents. 90 Day Fiance has gotten very trashy these past years so this season of The Other Way should be very interesting.
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>>1748177>are you going to start proposing that there's no wrong way to use that word since gender isn't real and blah blah who cares?
I don't think you read my post in full.>I am however aware that we don't live in vacuum and that apart of subtle gender markers pronouns still refer to sexes, so I use sex based pronouns to avoid muddying waters and I do misgender trannies at every given opportunity.>>1748271
Yes, this is exactly what I meant! Indicated by this bit>Language shapes the way we think and perceive reality around us in really subtle ways and gendered language works the same as other types of gender conditioning, hence why objects perceived as feminine are often described with feminine adjectives and associated with women/femininity; and vice versa.
Ways language shapes the way we think has been talked about god knows how many times in various different contexts, ex. we know that sexist, pornified language is a subtle way of shaping a mind, especially among porn addicts. The way we talk and think about ourselves is crucial when it comes to mental health, be it inducing illness and sabotaging yourself through negative talk or recovery through reshaping your mind by simply switching words that bear specific connotations.
Combine that with the fact that we live in a world where cultures are inherently built on sexism and gender is shaping our perception of sexes through socialization, clothing, activities, etc. I don't think it's a stretch to assume that language itself isn't free of gender and every negative side that comes with it. And frankly, I don't understand why so many people are afraid of exploring this idea. If anything, diving deep into watching troons further highlights this issue, one of the most common examples of it in English being tifs preferring to be called "handsome" as opposed to "pretty". They don't change anything about their appearances (usually), and yet the way you call them matters because a lot grew up in conservative areas where "pretty" carries heavier implications. These descriptors are gendered, and connotations trigger
them, cause dysphoria, etc. Of course, alone these words (or gendered languages, or whatever) don't do much, but they're clearly a part of a greater pattern of social constructs and interactions that builds sexism piece by piece.
Sheila Jeffreys recorded that she was disturbed by TIMs calling themselves lesbians in the 1960s. By the 1970s Janice Raymond wrote a whole book about the issue of trannies and how they will eventually have a major clash with feminists. In the 1970s, a TIF called Lou Sullivan was raping gay men by deception, campaigned to get homosexuality removed as a requirement for gender transitions, and formed an organization for TIMs in the 1980s.
Third wave liberal feminists in the 1990s starts accepting "tran women are real women". Liberal feminists win out over the radical feminists after the "feminist sex wars" which debated the morality of pornography. This turns radfems into a massively hated group in the male-dominated landscape and sends them underground ("ree radfems tried to take out porn!"). TIMs start clashing with traditions that were established during the Women's Liberation Movement starting around the early 2000s, like trying to get Michfest shut down and forcing Dianic Wicca to accept men.
Transgenderism grew massively and was normalized on Tumblr throughout the 2010s. Tumblr was THE libfem hotspot and really brought social justice activism to the mainstream. So it's really been something that has been growing in strength over the decades and after same sex marriage was made legal in the US, a lot of people were looking for something new to advocate for.
Cats and dogs being associated with gendered stereotypes is not linked to their grammatical gender in many regions.
While the link may exist in some places (Germany?), I would not call it common. The top 4 Romance languages do not have that grammatical gender distinction, for example, and are some of the most spoken languages on earth. Doesn't stop us from associating cats with women.
*formed an organization for TIFs in the 1980s.
Sorry, made a typo
>>1748271>being seen as female and dogs as male
What country do you live in where this is the case? Or did you just make this up? I'm a native English speaker and I've never heard of this outside of people here claiming men don't like cats (which is not only not a stereotype anyone in wider society knows but it's no based in reality).
>because in many languages those nouns have the female and male gender respectively
No they don't and if they do it has no relation. The names used in grammatical gender are misnomers.
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Not entirely true, nonnie
. Some have a pump fitted inside them that simulates getting erect. So it can get "hard", but not from sexual stimulation.
You're using one of the only languages where this is actually the case as your example. It's pretty uncommon in gendered languages for cat to be a feminine noun.>>1748636
When lolcow was down and we all flocked to crystal.cafe, there was this one anon in the bunker threads who was saying violence against cats is more common than violence against dogs because we stereotype cats as female, and people hate women. That comment caused a lot of discussion and infighting and a lot of comments in this thread are reminding me of that one. I wouldn't be surprised if it was the same anon, honestly.
Omg just like the real thing!
Tifs make me so sad because they would put this into themselves out of pure hatred of womanhood.
That Ezra bitch two years ago made a tiktok about she didn't like how she was sexualized by men and now she wants people to refer to her as a man. Terrifying.
NTA buts it’s a British suffragette thing. Cats even became a symbol for the women fighting for their rights and for a time the most popular animal seen. It just wasn’t as popular as more known symbols like the colors. (Edited because it’s early and I’m dumb kek)https://www.nationalgeographic.co.uk/history-and-civilisation/2021/03/why-suffragists-wore-white-and-more-feminist-symbols-interpreted
Here you go >>At first, cats were an anti-suffrage symbol. In the 19th century, cats and dogs had gendered associations. Dogs, known for being active, were associated with men, and cats were associated with women, who were expected to remain within their designated sphere of hearth and home. Women who deviated from social norms were sometimes portrayed as hissing outdoor cats, the antithesis of the placid housecat. Anti-suffragists feared that men’s masculinity would be diminished as women entered public life. As a result, cats often appeared on postcards that depicted men forced to perform “feminine” tasks such as the laundry, childcare, or cooking.
Yeah but the idea that men target cats with the idea that they're woman associated is insane.
I doubt that cats are abused more to begin with, google finds no such statistic. In many islamic countries, which are some of the most woman hating in the world, it is dogs that are seen as ritually unclean and treated poorly by many as a result.
Spanish and French? El gato, le chat
Feminine version exists but the default/neuter for nouns that have both genders is generally masculine
Maybe stop calling things you don't understand retarded.
Using language correctly is the norm. Deviating from proper usage of sexed pronouns, and sexed pronouns only, while claiming to be above gender is self contradictory. If you really did not care you would simply use words with their proper definitions and move on, instead of making a show of how you use them wrong on purpose.
Misusing words muddies and confuses conversations. Without a common idea of what words mean you cannot communicate.
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I always appreciate how bad their explanations of gender identity is and why they’re not women. The rest of her comment just goes on using a nickname/name analogy
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Living in a slob apartment with crusty dirty dishes gathering mold in the sink is gender affirmative care
>gncmen just get called soyed, only Aidens have a monopoly on tranny victimhood
>11-16 are the most important years of your life, no important interpersonal development re: yourself and the way you relate to people happens after then
>forced concentration camp feminization did not work b/c autism and internalized toxic masculinity
>having personal autonomy and being able to walk around at night isn't feminine
I'm too lazy but the same user has another comment on the same thread were the future trans genocide is brought up and forced in pregnancy of Aidens is discuss as Aidens are the ultimate soldiers against white supremacy
>>1749061>thanks to my autism>also thanks to my autism
So she realizes she's more masculine due to autism but comes to the conclusion she's really a boy? Does she think she's just magically both as if autism isn't the main issue?>By transitioning I feel like I'm getting that little boy back
Stop. Also at the end, did she just say that transmen are the gay best friends of female friend groups? That literally explains so much, that is literally the motive for transitioning.
Portuguese and Italian too. It's a male noun in most Romance languages, as a general rule of thumb. I think with that said, women tend to like cats more than men do, but I also just think women like animals more in general. Hell there's even studies to show that women find men who own pets more attractive.>>1749092
I don't understand how trans individuals, regardless of bio sex, are so disproportionately diagnosed as autistic (like 50-70x more than the average population) yet it doesn't ring alarm bells in anyone. The two have such heavy correlation but it's considered taboo to mention it.
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This person sounds young and naive to me and I wish I could tell her this is a totally normal female experience without revealing my terven nature. Unfortunately everyone commenting is telling her she's trans and to look into nonbinary shit. So far the terms genderfluid, genderqueer and demigirl have all been mentioned kek
I thought demi stood for something you are not, like how transwomen are men, demigirls are boys.
Has Kikomi gotten the blessing of the gender cultists?
It's been discussed many times before, but trannies completely infested that fandom. Early on it was mostly TIFs, but these days it's mostly TIMs. There are a lot of insecure zoomer girls who say that Dave "transed their gender," and now LARP as gay men. He's literally just a Tumblr sexyman, and they modeled themselves after the character they wanted to fuck, just like AGPs do. Hilarious, really.
I love to look at a "ghey man uwu" TIF and try to guess which Tumblr sexyman she's skinwalking. I know one girl who basically just LARPs as Carlos from WTNV.
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Aiden: I'm just saying that gay men should have sex with trans men!
People: You sound like a conservationist with "gay men should have sex with women"!
Aiden: But when I do it, is cute!
i always read "bigender" as "big gender"
it usually ends up being an appropriate designation
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I'd honestly be offended if people spoke about me like this, like i'm a retarded baby.
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It depends on the language, in my languages cats do have a masculine pronoun and are generally well treated and cared for, dogs on the other hand are hated(due to Islamic influence)
like the one thing about Islam is its fondness for cats
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>TIF Transwashing a young male character + slight Ukeization/Feminization
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The TIF I know at my college posts poetry on Tumblr about the male gaze and how she desires sexual attention and hates for herself for it, makes Snapchat stories about hookups, and “ironically” makes the same joke where she says “I hate women!” tons of times while being extremely left. I’m so fucking tired of it. I feel extremely bad for her seeing that she clearly hates herself but I also wish every side of the political coin didn’t hate women.
The Spanish words for cat and dog are both masculine and you don't modify them even if the specific animal you're referring to is female, but the words for kitten and puppy do
change based on the gender of the individual animal.
Literally everything is gendered in Spanish, including inanimate objects. That's why "Latinx" is such a retarded term. By that logic, you would have to stick "x" on the end of literally everything to make it PC.
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The mental illness just radiates off this post, good grief. Her hair is falling out and her first response is not "holy shit these drugs are making m sick," it's "reee being bald means I look like my dad, who I hate now because he can see that I'm sick and doesn't enable me!!!"
Unsurprisingly She's also a ~gay trans man~ who LARPs as a Jew.
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Picrel is the same cow. TL;DR: Straight girl tries to LARP as a lesbian and later as a gay man, gets angry when she doesn't fit in with actual gay people, and finally lashes out at other women (mostly lesbians) for it. I love the bit where she joined an LGBT Facebook group because she "felt fruity" despite being a straight woman, then turned around and got all "nOt AlL mEn," when the women in the group (many of whom have probably been mistreated by men) say that they dislike men. She wants to be oppressed so bad, but when she encounters actual responses women have to oppression, she can't handle it.
This is one of the things irritates me most about troons and spicy straights. They shoehorn themselves into spaces where they don't belong, and when they don't like the culture of those spaces, they demand that everyone else
change to accommodate them. And typically, they do
change to avoid being branded as bigots, but in doing so they alienate the people the space was originally for. Then you end up with "lesbian" spaces full of AGPs and "gay" TIFs where it's verboten to say a single critical thing about scrotes.
Finally she closes it off in true tranny fashion, basically saying that FTMs will kill themselves if there's not enough positivity for men.
(Sorry for the editfails, jannies)
of course not. but the confusion generated by misusing an extremely well-established and important part of the English language is value-neutral - it's not a fault or a sign of bioessentialism, unless you're going to start arguing that the words "woman" and "female" are also problematic
for the same reasons. the person who started this whole argument said that radfems are radically insane extremists for their opposition to pronoun-swapping (because "pronouns = gender" and "gender do not real") and that simply isn't the case.
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God this is fucking embarrassing, mao would have sent this delusional retard to a fucking labor camp
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They take the bone out of the person's leg like in some kind of horror movie. It's called the fibula free flap technique. Imagine walking with that leg post surgery.
Doesn't make sense really. Both animals are dirty and cat scratches are generally more harmful because they carry more bacteria. Cats can also catch rabies, they hunt wild animals just like dogs (actually now they do it more because cats are allowed to free roam more). In my country (europe) people used to eat cats, but not dogs because they were considered valuable for work, and dogs were always seen as great domestic animals (think of how many royals kept small lap dogs as status symbol).
I still dislike that women are compared to any animal. Animals are animals. Female dogs and male cats exist, the cats = women and dogs = men association is retarded and based off of nothing. Everything female will always be better than any male counterpart.>>1749329>one thing about Islam is its fondness for cats
Not sure if I'd praise islam for its "fondness" of cats while they consider women worse than dogs and about as "dirty" because of periods. But in islam-dominated countries people kept good care of some dogs like sighthounds.
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It actually seems to go even before that, Orwell wrote this in 1939
>The typical Socialist is not, as tremulous old ladies imagine, a ferocious-looking working man with greasy overalls and a raucous voice. He is either a youthful snob-Bolshevik who in five years time will quite probably have made a wealthy marriage and been converted to Roman Catholicism; or, still more typically, a prim little man with a white-collar job, usually a secret teetotaller and often with vegetarian leanings, with a history of Nonconformity behind him, and, above all, with a social position which he has no intention of forfeiting. >To this you have got to add the ugly fact that most middle-class Socialists, while theoretically pining for a class-less society, cling like glue to their miserable fragments of social prestige. I remember my sensations of horror on first attending an I.L.P. branch meeting in London. (It might have been rather different in the North, where the bourgeoisie are less thickly scattered.) Are these mingy little beasts, I thought, the champions of the working class? For every person there, male and female, bore the worst stigmata of sniffish middle-class superiority. If a real working man, a miner dirty from the pit, for instance, had suddenly walked into their midst, they would have been embarrassed, angry, and disgusted; some, I should think, would have fled holding their noses.
Good numbers of Aidens don't want to be men, they just want to be bastards.
They don't have what it takes personality-wise to stick to the archetype however, so they put on their clown costume, act like brats and hope the LARP is convincing enough (it's not)>>1749566
I think these greasy commie types are more incel-like and their whole feeling of being an oppressed class or whatever comes from being unfuckable (especially when it comes to TIMs) and having only one screen on their gaming setup
As someone who likes both cats and dogs, I have to agree. Dogs might be dirtier in the literal sense because they go outside, but cats' saliva has so
much more bacteria in it, and like you said, they walk on tables and countertops.
There are a few threads in /ot/ for this topic if you anons want to get deeper into it.
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>>1749543>they just want free shit and to not work
Ignoring that they have to share their free shit and work for it.
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They don't want bi-pan guys because that means their partners still see them as woman. Nothing more like REAL gay people to reinforce they're a man. Which explains also why they don't date each other neither.
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That's traumacore for you, kek. They base their entire personality around trauma rather than seeking professional help. I've never seen anyone who suffers from trauma brag about it so much like TIFs, TIMs and gen Z as a whole do.
Could be because some communists view capitalism as responsible for all the ills in the world including transphobia. To them there will be no discrimination of any kind in a communists society.
Or maybe the pro troon commies aren't real commies just anti-west. It's like those "atheist" that bash Christianity all day but won't dare criticize Islam. They're not really atheist, just anti-Christian.
Reminder that not only gender, pronouns and sexual orientation, but also ethnicity and political ideology are things you claim for yourself as an "identity", for aesthetic and in-group signalling purposes. they are not things that describe
the person claiming them in any way nor need have any connection to reality.
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"anti-man sentiment" kek
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TERFs are "violent misogynists" like men?
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talking about fujos is not derailing cause there's a huge overlap between fujoshis and FTMs, like you have thousands of posts of TIFs admitting they were fujoshis themselves
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"treatment for pcos forces bodies back to gender binary"
They can't be this retarded, right? PCOS isn't a fucking aesthetic. How about diabetes and heart attacks?
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late but it looks like she deactivated on december 5th, there's another comment alleging that it was so she could deal with the legal issues privately
Thank you so much for responding, she's connected to someone I know irl so all of this has been oddly personal. She's fucking foul for mocking that detranser but what that surgeon did to her is worse by a mile. I saw those pics circulate on tumblr and was shocked. Ironically >>1750306
I think this will only solidify her trans label. I know that sounds backwards but I think the trauma of this surgery will create a sunk cost fallacy. Before going dark, she made a few vicious tweets ripping on the terfs who expressed concern for her and questioned the validity of this surgeon. She had a gaping septic hole in her side and still found time to get assmad at feminists for pointing out that these surgeons are experimental at best, butchers at worst.
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Is like that "Manhunt" book written for a TiM. Is "thriller" and "sexy", but full of misogyny from women and TiF. You would think a "pro-LGBT" book would save TiF too if they're men, but alas, the author do not felt that way.
Her and spacelazarwolf >>1749400
should battle it out gladiators style for the title of Ultimate Jewish Larper TIF Cow
Who doesn't want to fuck Edge, nonnie
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Damn, that's too spicy for Europe.
The only way a terf
would be violent is if "she" was a transwoman kek
Being trans is just being a misogynist. You have men who think women are such simple creatures they can just morph into one with some makeup and breast implants, they don't think we have our own special circumstances and needs - we're just "weaker, dumber but prettier men", what misogynistic men have been saying for centuries. Then we have the tifs who hate themselves for being female, and they hate the female body so much they do everything they can to not seem like a female anymore. The biggest trans "enemy" are good ol' feminists fighting for women's rights, yet there are no "trans-exclusionary radical meninists" being blamed for anything despite men being the ones who abuse them, kill them, and the ones who have all the political power.
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No "Benji." People shouldn't have to give you $15,000 just for being a troon in a household where one of the traumas you claim is that your mom hugs you. Stop making furry art on instagram and get a real fucking job.
Do these tranny gofundmes get traction anymore? Everytime I see vague gofundmes about "surgery" or abusive
households, with ugly tranny selfies alongside, I scroll past.
This one only got $100 in 20 days so it seems at least for TIFs there is no interest.
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This is just plain sad, even by reddit standards
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I actually know of this person from other circles and they used to date an old man. I remember they made some art of themself and him and he was balding with grey hair in the image. She even had a disclaimer to not talk badly about her relationship and the age difference. She'd later on in her instagram story cry about the fact that she lost followers. Think its safe to say that relationship didn't work out since she doesn't mention him anymore.
Guaranteed the old dude said what ever she wanted to hear to take advantage of her. Lmao. I can't believe how badly this tranny shit deludes their minds.
It's not just the terfs tbh there are a few gay guys who for some reason are dragging him.
As the old saying goes, be gay do crime.
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You can pretty much get away with saying very terf or gc talking point and talk shit about gendies and spicy straights if you call them tenderqueers on tiktok.
She did mention him awhile back. I follow her in some art circles. Their breakup was messy and she was as expected "devastated" and even ended up deleting her account or trying to migrate over to a new one. Obviously it didn't work out because she ended back up on her serval account. No screenshots since it was awhile ago but at the time I remember thinking why this barely relevant furry artist freaking out about "changing" and apologizing to her audience kek. Guess now I know why. Scammy gofundmes she deletes when her "family is doing better". How can you go from being so in danger living with your violent abusive
family you need 15k from strangers but on a whim you can delete it and say "things are better now jk". Like the fuck.
Why don’t you go back to where you came from?
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Checked-in on one of my personal cows. Appropriating TiM culture with workplace restroom nudes.
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Randomly saw on twitter. These sheltered retards think if a couple doesn't conform to stereotypes, the couples are secretly kweer themselves, or are straight couples made for kweer people.
Are they aware of this pattern, that they cling so hard to stereotypes that anything outside their narrow expectations must be omg so gayyyy? Is that why they have to screech and cry that they're so progressive? Or is it that they're genuinely amazed when something normal is really progressive compared to their regressive minds?
Bisexual men are rare as hell compared to bi women. When I think of bisexuals, I always think of bi women. I forget bi men even exist.
Also, I'm straight and it's weird that the bi women I know always complain about how horrible straight men are and yet they always choose to date straight men even though bi women are fucking everywhere. They could just date each other and yet they don't. Idk.
It's ridiculous that people insult each other over shipping straight pairings in the first place. If I didn't know better, I'd assume that these people were middle schoolers, but most of them are adults. Why do people think that they have to tailor all their hobbies to fit their political beliefs? It's okay to enjoy "problematic
," or even just less diverse media. You're not a bad liberal for liking a white character or a straight pairing, Christ.
The relationships I like most in fiction are the ones with an interesting dynamic and/or involve character development. The gender of the characters is irrelevant to me so long as they're well written. Enjoying fiction is just a hobby for me, and I generally try to keep it separate from my sociopolitical beliefs.
go google nahuatl or bolivian people. shes whiter than 90% of latin america. burgers do really believe 1% of some random ethnicity heritage actually makes them ethnic or some shit. >>1751429
is this ambrose??
I've actually been seeing kweer retards calling people who say words mean things and their ridiculous identities don't make sense tenderqueers as if tenderqueer doesn't apply to their mogai tumblrtard self. Especially tims crying that twans wammen are the most oppressed and everyone else is a tenderqueer for not treating them like gods 24/7. >>1751645
Shouldn't this be in the spicy straights thread or the fandom drama thread? There's nothing milky in the second half. It's almost as if they're so obsessed with t4t and bi4bi because no matter how much they want to be gay men in gay relationships deep down they know they're straight women who can only ever relate to m/f couples but still want their kweer brownie points.
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Nta, but why would you compare Native American ethnic groups in the US to Latin America? I agree that the dude just looks like some Euromutt, but there are Native American ethnic groups with lighter skin complexions. There's thousands of Native American ethnic groups and they are highly diverse in appearance with the major genetic split being between North and South America.
Picrel is Rico Lanáat’ Worl who is Tlingit and Athabascan.
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This was a gnc dyke a few years older than me that I really looked up to growing up. So tragic to see her subject herself to this, she was such a sexy soft butch now she looks like a retarded baby in her early 40s great job lady… feminism and shit….
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this brand of tifs is absolutely the craziest one, at least the other fujotroons with ugly haircuts are trying
It is very clear to me TIFs never want to be men per se. They never even try to integrate into general male circles, manospheres, etc. (Whether men will accept them as men is another issue, but the point is the TIFs don't really even try.) They just want to cosplay men, then hang in queer circles where everyone automatically validates and affirms each other's delusions. They just want to walk around looking like men, without actually being men. They "live as a man" as in how a man would be in their imaginations and yaoi comics, much like men who are love interests in commercial romance novels written by women. These "men" don't exist except in women's imaginations. No men really acts or talks like that. But in romance novels they offer women a bit of fun escape. For TIFs, it takes a different turn. They become "men" as they imagine, not as a romance novel love interest, but a pseudo-females found in BL and they assign the word "man" onto it, then call their transed selves "men". None of it has anything to do with reality.
How would they hang out around men? All their interests are exclusively female. I spend my time in mixed sex circles and I've never seen one, while TIM are common.
You have to ultra feminine in order to become aware that TIFs exist outside of social media.
There's a subset of TIFs (specifically the autistic straight ones) that are/were into it. We've established this many times.
Much like how AGPs base their view of women on portrayals written by men for men, the reverse is the case for many TIFs. They aspire to be the idealized version of men depicted in media with a female audience in mind, if not written by women to begin with. The fact of the matter is that most straight trannies (TIFs and TIMs alike) are disinterested in emulating or even just understanding the opposite sex as it actually is in reality. Some TIFs do LARP as chauvinist men, though, but that's more just the internalized misogyny and NLOGism showing through.
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Why are they all the same
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Shit goblin from my town who moved away and changed her name, says she's trans and non binary but doesn't show any sign of being either, publicly admits to eating her own shit and has been known to send videos of that, also pretends to be a SJW as well as trans because she needs to be quirky and unique
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i'm so glad i'm not a child right now
90s kids uber alles
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She also has a grimes stan account, an eating disorder romanising account and an account where she's just cringe and complains
she has a bluey profile picture. it's like mlp again, this time tifs are loving bluey, giving them gender vibes and all because the main character is blue dog girl that gets confused as a boy because of her fur color. thankfully, they're still small in terms of being a community and all, some still make yt edits on bluey being gender-something whatever that gives them euphoria or sth.
some don't like it though
>>1752480>"trans people aren't groomers, how dare you imply such a thing! but anyway i'm teaching my small child about sexual organs for no reason other than for my own affirmation and fetish"
A kid in kindergarten doesn't need to know the word vagina. The vagina is not the vulva and it's not related to peeing, it's part of the sexual organ which a kid that young shouldn't have to think about at all. All they need to know is if anyone (adults especially) tries to touch you there they have to tell mom and dad right away. But the fact that the kid knows that her "dad has a vagina" is even worse, she told her kid details about her own private parts. I really think there's a portion of trans identified women who aren't "dysphoric" about their sexual parts, but rather hyper-fixated on them. Such as Buck Angel who proudly did porn as a transman showing everyone what parts she had.
Her kid immediately shouting it out loudly to everyone literally proves she doesn't understand the implications of private parts, or that they are private. If one of the kindergarten teachers, or another parent/uncle who happened to be around was a groomer and heard that, guess which kid they will now know is an easy target?
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Have a scroll through her tiktoks, she’s disgusting and I feel so sorry for her daughter having that thing as a “dad”
fucking kek'd at "comments are off because of toxic
Who's gonna bet those tOxIc
people were saying that gender is a big pile of steaming shit and that girls can also "be blue" without falling into troonism?
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ngl she probably "passes" better then 99% of TIFs, but the eyes always give it a way, Tifs always have a certain “light” in their eyes that real men don’t have. That’s what usually clocks even the most masculine looking ones(picrel) for me.
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honestly, anything is better than ending up like vidrel
Imagine transitioning into Kyle Rittenhouse.
They need to make another version of this where leftist activists chase her down the street and jump her because they think it's Kyle. Then they steal her wallet and see the ID saying it's not only the wrong person but also a female, ending with them shrugging it off and saying "Shouldn't look so much like Kyle if you don't want your ass kicked."
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what's category of TIF is this ?
pickeism and not having any other personality points to make them likeable.
You can see either autistic girls or "just pretty" girls transitioning because they can't fill their head with normal to everyday things, so they just think what they could do with their bodies.
While autistic girls have a condition that loops them into "fixations", these girls are just craving attention and will jump on every bandwagon.
She needs a thread of her own.
Totally dysphoric trans man in bra and skirt buying flowers and being totally valid
!!!! I need testosterone for my crippling dysphoria!!
I'm gonna share something personal and lmk what y'all think. So I had an uncle who was married and had 2 kids, but his wife divorced him and they estranged themselves from my family when I was a baby. So I pretty much forgot these people even existed.
Fast forward about 23 years. My mom gets a DM on Facebook from some guy. The DM is something like "It's me, your brother's ex. Just letting you know that he passed away last night." My mom was understandably confused. So it turns out his ex wife completely transitioned, has a beard and a new name and everything. Here's the weirder part. My female cousin, her daughter, is a complete TIF too. They transitioned together. My uncle knew all of this bc he was somewhat involved in the kids' lives, but he was too ashamed to tell anyone. I feel really bad for him, knowing that his biggest secret was revealed by his death (unexpected, aneurysm at age 49)… I imagine it was painful for him to hear his ex wife call herself a man and see his daughter do the same.
Anyway, I have never heard of anything like this where the parent and child transition together. Judging by pictures I do think my cousin started when she was still a minor. Do you think some form of abuse occurred or do they share a genetic mental illness? Btw, at my uncle's funeral my grandmother kept loudly asking where the ex and daughter were while they were standing there the whole time kek (the trans thing was a bit much for her)
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what a lovely couple
This is strange but I remember seeing at least one tiktok weirdo where both the mom and daughter transitioned. I think parents play a huge role in whether their child transitions so it's likely they both just drank the kool-aid.
Such a strange thing to happen to your family, I like that your grandma just refused to process it "where are they?" kek
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Ugly TIF floatyspacecat has become an ugly drag king which is weird to me because if she says she is a man, why her drag persona would be also a man? Spoiler image because ugly
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She is also obsessed with the idea of Paul Dano being a fat TIF
>>1752402>eating her own shit and sending videos of it
I'm going to need some context here nonny
. Didn't know she was britbong either, going by that pic she looks 'murican
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Anon explained it really well a while back. Basically it's the combination of autism, living in a fantasy and trying to cope with the fact that the society sucks for women.
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Of course Ezra Butler has an only fans where she sells her tits but wants everyone to believe she will get the chop lmao
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She somehow used to be grosser and publicly admits to eating her own poop and stomping it down the shower drain
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>>1753712>eating her own poop and stomping it down the shower drain
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says the pickme with an extremely coomer icon. There are tifs into bimbo aesthetics but I can’t believe they’re retarded enough to believe that the world will perceive them as male despite dressing up like a porn star.
Like miss, your misogyny is showing
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She's one of "those" annoying twittards who learnt gender and race theory all from twitter, makes sense that she's delusional
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bet she's dating(or will end up dating) some ugly pale white dude IRL a well
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>>1752604>I headcanon Bluey as a FTM because she's quite tomb-
Let girls be tomboy, please!
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That feeling when retarded gender specials take over lesbian tags. Like you don't even consider yourself a woman, why call yourself lesbian? I feel like it's some kind of a trick to avoid troonsbians or something.
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Furries are now giving their fursuits mastectomy scars
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And I thought putting massive boobs on fursuits was the worst that could happen
Isn't it weird since they usually just have fur there. At least from what i've seen, is it that other furries don't have nipples except the tif ones? kek
And don't mastectomy scars ever heal or fade like normal surgery scars or why do they keep doing things like this and drawing them everywhere? If they don't heal how is it going to look like a mans chest?
After two years and taking good care of the skin the scars can fade, and you can do treatments to lighten the skin. But even if the color matches the skin there will always be subtle signs of the surgery.
Here's the fucked up thing though from experience. When I went to collage I met a few ftm who didn't wash, clean the sweat or let the scars breath. You can actually smell the rot from a few feet away. When asked why they didn't take better care of themselves they said "it hurts to much to move and take off my shirt. Sides, it'll leave pretty cool scars heheh"
Like they were making it worse on purpose just because they thought the scars were cool
I really like butch/masculine women and I feel like every time I see a cute tomboy it's a tif. Every fucking time it's a fakeboi. We truly are going backward.
I could even deal with the gender bullshit for a cute girl, after all, it's just a phase, but what if she loops her tits off
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"Mom it's not a phase!!1!"
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Back in our old days when you had to lie when someone asked you a/s/l.
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Lmfao what is going on here
When I was a kid I'd pretend to be 18 when I was 11 and pretty much never gave personal details of myself… Nowadays kids list their whole mental illness, triggers
, weaknesses and location on their little blogs, it's very dangeorus
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Not sure if this belongs here, but just sounds so horrible being a young tif realising she's a woman but dating another tif who doesn't support her but questions and puts her down like this? I assume this is not the only time something like this happens now. I've seen posts that the girls wanting to go back to normal nearly always feel like they are liars and lied this whole time and afraid of how the people close to them will react. "Needless to say i reacted very poorly" Why? She says it like the girl did something wrong to her personally by overcoming the fakeboi phase. So mentally ill, both of them need therapy and not hormone therapy.
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MTE Seeing all those cards with triggers
, "DID" people with "headmates" (that happens to be imaginary friends that resembles any animu character that live in their imaginary world like bff) and all the jazz just makes me feel like a boomer.
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wow that's depressing
I dunno nonna, I know a lot of TiFs in that age group who act like this. Very toxic
and need to be avoided.
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I get some sort of mix of both schadenfreude but also sadness when I see TIFs meme themselves into thinking baby age regressing will help them cope with being a woman. Some of them like pic related are probably very mentally ill and traumatized, while other ones like >>1754859
are just like the MIF age regressing pedos and it's purely for cooming.
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>pfp of an asian man being infantilized >just entered adulthood>username is a childrens cartoon>goes by a common trans name that is also the name of a cartoon little boy
Almost a perfect blend of the average internet pedo and average tiktok TIF>>1755467
And yes that was on MY fyp lol. I don't give likes or search up tranny shit it just always finds a way to me
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And just in case any Anons somehow like Taylor Swift's bland music she had a TIF in her recent music video.(derailing)
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I'd love to see a pic of Taylor standing next to "him" she towers over most men, how small would that TIF be next to her
kek if it was a male you would get fired
anyways good job nonna, maybe if this teenage girl will get "misgendered" often enough she will consider dropping the cult
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Even when whining about height they don't come across as seething men
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Average male height in vietnam is 5'4, so even if she was born in the vietnam she'd be the equivalent of a 5'6 male in the west kek
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Not sure if she’s been posted here before but this is a cow from over in the pro-ana thread. Hayden. A troon so ugly that nonas have decided to spoiler her face from now on kek
That's just Bruno Mars, not a TIF, what are you on about? Unless Bruno Mars is secretly a TIF but I sincerely doubt it, he's just a short man. I guess it leads FtMs into thinking they can pass when they see a man this short though, even though 90% of men are taller that him. >>1755712
She's really called Hayden? I have never met a moid with this name in my life, only TIFs. I don't know why you'd make yourself so clockable with your name alone.
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This is "queer art" that libs are fighting to defend be shown to kids, two fujocoomers pretending to have gay male sex
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kek you may be onto something anon
mtf can't scream transphobia to lesbians if they're trans as well
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fucking morons. if you believe you're a man hard enough then you'll magically become infertile? ugh
>>1756129>funny how these people will scream about how gender and sex are different
They don't even do this anymore. TRA's whole base ideology completely shifts every couple of years. Now they don't even want to admit biological sex, they genuinely want everybody to think it's completely normal for "women" to have dicks and there is literally no difference between a woman and a man if they both call themselves "woman".
Similar to how the general accepted thing was that "people are born gay/trans" but now there's starting to be a push for "umm actually your sexuality/gender can change". They probably do this because they realized that they can get away with more bs now and in my example it's probably an excuse for why it's totally normal for girls that never showed signs of being gendies suddenly to suddenly get ROGD, or for the even schizoer gendies to get new genders every month, and maybe also a preemptive cope to explain away detransitions
what a fucking idiot. he thought he could magically just cum in his gf and the testosterone would act as free birth control. like im sure the comments are kissing his ass but he absolutely SHOULD feel deeply guilty for impregnating a 19 year old student in a state with anti abortion laws.
im trying not to get too mad but god what a horrific situation
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Even then, nothing stop them to buy condoms.
The lack of Sex education is quite worrisome.
This is what made me peak, because I was more understanding when they said things like “gender is what’s in your brain, sex is what’s in your pants”. I could work with that in the past even though it sounds stupid saying it now. The moment they started to shout that TiMs are really biologically female and TiFs are really biologically male is the day my brain tuned out because it makes no sense. What’s the point of transition if that’s the case? This is why shit like >>1756205
happens, because naive, desperate people really believe HRT is magic and really turns you into the opposite sex. It’s so stupid.
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Wow so special not a universal female experience at all
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Not mention also when doctor or people do not even bother in think "if it hurts so much, there's something wrong with your body", but "you are only faking it". If a period is quite hurtful, there might be endo or pcos.
But nooooo, women love have periods, only tif can hate them.
In about 4 days all of Twitter will accept this as fact. It takes just one post if “new flag” or “new sexuality dropped” and twitter will act like it’s been part of their Qweer History since Stonewall. >>1756338
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AYRT I'm bi too and imo the term genital preference only makes some sense when being used in a neutral way to describe a bi person with a preference, like I prefer pussy but it's not a requirement for me. A lot of troons who are obsessed with hating "genital preferences" seem straight with a fetish for lesbians (TIMs) or gay men (TIFs), but as for woque folx who aren't troons but still hate the thought of someone not wanting the opposite sex's genitalia I have no clue what's going on really. Semi-related, picrel is a gay dude I saw on Twitter recently.
and in the thread after that is where most of it can be found.
>>1753118>where the parent and child transition together.
It's becoming more common. Here's a 5 year old story from a major news outlet covering a mother/son transition.
Here's one from the Truly channel. This one is a mother/daughter transition.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fs4u5Dzpys&list=PLUkdT9ljJ1caADldYIDbO25isEzqRVgKJ&index=29&t=5s
I've seen a pic that was making the rounds on social media of a father and his small son who both trooned out.
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Reminds me of this case about a 10 year MTF transmodel(basically a pedophile's fantasy), the boy's biological mom (the dark haired mustached one on the right) started dressing him in girls clothes when he was 4 and was telling everyone that he was trans, she claimed the biological father wasn't acceptive of his identity and tried to force him to wear his brother's clothes. The father lost custody and the mom (Dee McMaher) later got together with another woman, the mother later "came out" as a TIF and other woman came out as an enby. So these two are now parents of McMaher's two sons and the enby's baby
also despite being 10 and on puberty blockers the boy still looks more masculine then his TIF mom
what they are doing is wrong but
>envy and jealousy of the real male in the family.
This pickme comment took me out.
Sorry, I usually post on /ot/, so I forgot to sage here.
We don't know whether they would troon out a girl, so that's speculative.
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Sims 4 added top scars in a free update. It's for teen-adult males only (Maybe you can use it on any body type) I hope so, because I plan on using it for like a breast cancer story line and I hope it doesn't show up for random sims
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oh and binders kek, I'm going to use all this shit for my own story that has nothing to do with troons, I may share to watch them seethe.
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kek of course they used an obvious scrote in a wig to "Promote" the shape wear, which makes me feel like it's some kinda tranny tucking underwear? He looks fucking amazing, lol.
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How do these people have lives, jobs, careers, friends ect when theyre always on the verge of breaking down crying at any little comment at any point
so this person has shown all signs of accepting this person yet has a valid
critique of some aspect of their ideology and somehow the tranny interprets this as them "denying their existence" or whatever. This is like the core of why it's so hard to work with troons, any slight amount of criticism is literally considered the difference between life and death.
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Why do they all get their tits out and then write they/them in bio
Reposted to spoiler image
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sage for mild ot but seeing oliver twist ass TIFs try to be "threatening" will never not be funny
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Awwww, they look so cute! such big boys
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Troons confirmed for Marvel. Though, interestingly, it's for a shitty Disney+ that no one will actually watch, rather than a proper movie, and it's a nonbinary they/them, rather than a hulking Chad-jawed gigahon.
Presumably because it's easier to sell a girl with short hair than a dude in a dress to the lucrative Asian market.
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Some FtMs literally just seem like extreme heterosexual women to me. Like male attraction to the corehttps://www.reddit.com/r/ftm/comments/pr34rt/gaybi_trans_men_whats_your_ideal_boyfriend_like/
>>1757574>she said men can't get pregnant and this made me shake really badly and want to cry
This is so funny though, I mean this is no different than a Karen being horrified that you have a satanic image on the band shirt you're wearing. Satan is objectively evil and wants to punish all good Christians like her, how could you wear that! It's against the gospel!
I don't know why these people admit so openly that they are mentally frail and can't think for themselves.
For teens. "Kids don't transition medically, it doesn't happen!!!! We totally never encourage it either!!!"
I actually considered getting the sims 4 because I enjoyed the sims as a kid, but this has put me off it completely. Not gonna support a game actively promoting child mutilation.
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TIFs are so ridiculously girly that I still don’t understand how the male brain shit makes sense to these retards, Its like being a "boy" made enjoying feminine and straight things cool to them.
>>1758253>these are not my PREFERRED pronouns…… these are my pronouns.
What is this anger? If you're this triggered
by the term "preferred pronouns" then go take it up with the trannies who invented the phrase? This isn't a hateful slur that we forced upon you and your pronouns. Your people did this.
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Same. I loved rubber lizards and dinosaurs as a kid because I liked animals in general. I was in middle school when the silly bands craze hit, and I recall plenty of boys wearing them. Slime used to be considered a "boy toy," before it got popular with kids on Youtube. Adults are incredibly out of touch with what children actually like; the most successful toys have generally been things with broad appeal.
A lot of people were annoyed that they cast the ugly kid from Heartstopper as Wiccan, but I'm just so
relieved it wasn't a tranny. Turning gay characters into TIFs is becoming alarmingly common. Sorry to the fans of whatever comic book character the TIF ends up playing in Ironheart.
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Who looks at this dog eared (the droopiness on either side) ugly shit and thinks yeah I want that
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You don't respect transwomen because they're "women" and hate yourself, I don't respect them because I'm a terf. We are not the same
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>>1758624>We are a canvas, let ppl do what makes them feel godly
They wouldn't be saying that if that person were mutilating their arms.
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every fucking time >>1758410
Why are trannies obsessed with trying to claim their past partners are ~gay~, also I love when they try to be all like gotcha on men they had sex with because haha now youre gay because i am actually a man!!
Except a mastectomy for breast cancer saves women's life while mastectomy for "my breasts make me feel like I'm trapped in this body" are not the same. The first is for a physical pain and women feel empty without their breasts.
The second they don't understand the risks of removing healthy tissues and how the result will screw their mind even more. See that pic, by sample. Without the nipples it looks like an alien, that's something no right woman in their mind would want to look if they have to get a mastectomy for cancer.
But who is dimitri
Only one I can think of is dimitri from fire emblem, whom I've seen some people infantilise as a soft tortured boi uwu which I can see a tif get behind
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The only ayden I know and have interacted with IRL was a 31 one year old work colleague, she is married to a man and has 1 child, as cringe inducing aydens can seem online seeing one IRL is on a whole other level, she is an adult woman who calls herself a "boywife" and claims to be in queer relationship with her husband, Its an astonishing thing really, I don't know if she was into BL(likely was) but she was a shounenfag, into mha, baruto, demon slayer(anything flavor of the week)
Wow. Fake scene and
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It is the one from Fire Emblem kek
In addition to what other anons have said, part of what makes cosmetic mastectomy "mutilation," is the experimental nature of it. Doctors can't seem to agree on a consistent way to perform it, and results vary wildly. This is the case with all SRS surgeries.
Removing part of all of the breast is a pretty common part of treating advanced breast cancer. The surgeon doing that isn't taking advantage of someone's mental illness for a quick buck, he or she is doing what is necessary to keep the cancer from spreading.
I think mutilation vs mastectomy is like the difference between murder and killing.
Both can lead to the same result, but the context makes a big difference in how they're regarded and treated.
Also it's normal to feel dysphoric about surgery aftermaths. It's not "whatever" to have parts of your body cut away. People don't do that because they like it, but because they have to choose between either that or death.
IMO that underlines how looney the people who WANT
that for effectively spiritual reasons and how depraved the people who do it for them are.
I can't fucking stand this shit it's so insidious and obnoxious in a way I can't fully describe but I fucking hate it. Yes Olivia you are totally retroactively queering these dudes. Slay.>>1759384
This has gotta be bait lol but yeah anon it's fine, I promise the police won't come to your house or anything. The only pitfall is that sometimes people assume you're a troon anyway.
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Yes. It's called being a tomboy/gnc woman, wear whatever you want and present how you want without being indoctrinated into the gendie bs. For using "they/them", don't be retarded. You're a woman, a she.>>1759452
How anyone can look at this degeneracy and not immediately think mental illness is beyond me.
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idk if this has been posted before but this such a downgrade, it makes me sad. Actually the whole thread is sadhttps://twitter.com/gothcowboybf/status/1619315702191788032
This was literally posted yesterday, newfag. You can't be bothered to scroll up just a little
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I swear fakebois seems to think that reality is like a 2D anime world, where a simple change in clothing and a haircut can just completely negate noticeable sexually dimorphic characteristics and features
>usernames also ends with "fujo"
The Last of Us 2 live action tif will need to be a 10 year old for the story to work (as they need to be a child compared to Ellie/Abby).
Showing that a preteen girl is trans because she didn't want to be forced into an arranged marriage and conform to the horrific treatment of women in a literal cult is not going to go down positively for viewers.
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One of the top rated posts on r/FTM
I love that one of them is fucking bald. Jesus Christ.
The scars and bodily decay comes across even in such a simplistic art style because it's very important to her to show off the in-group markers.
This is supposed to be genuine? This is not supposed to be grotesque at all? This is FOR trans activism?!
I hate this.
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this shit makes me want to A-log. female is when dress and male is when hoodie.
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was this tweet from this retarded nonbinary theythem rat talking about “i dont see the point in sex segregated bathrooms” posted? seriously what is it about theythem women ?? she has been raped herself too so you’d think she’d KNOW the importance of female only spaces & the risks it reduces but her excuse was “akshually ive been raped before & that never stopped my male abusers!” so .. what now? women like you just roll over & give them free reign? the fuck?
I think she's lying about having been raped as a way to "gotcha" those other women.
Anyway her point is retarded, with that same logic we might as well legalize rape because having it be a crime didn't stop her rapists hurr
Yeah, people lie about all kinds of shit online, so I won't believe something happened just because they say it did. That doesn't mean I straight up assume people lie, there's always the third option of suspending judgment.
In this case it doesn't matter whether anything happened to her personally because it has no bearing on the question, and her bringing it up so flippantly serves no purpose beyond trying to browbeat her opponents in this discussion into silence, because what are they supposed to do, tell her she's full of shit, or that her experience is irrelevant (I agree with both statements)? She can make a whole circus about that if it happens and can smear the people she's arguing with as being evil and not really feminist because they don't fall to their knees and kiss her feet even though she claimed the biggest victimhood in the conversation.
Either way she doesn't need to actually defend her position with arguments anymore and "won" the argument in a twitter sense of "winning".
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This is supposed to be a cardigan in a masc style
Ntayrt, but what the fuck does porn have to do with what anon said? I absolutely agree with her. When a scrote calls me "little lady," or "sweetheart," it immediately raises my hackles because it's infantilizing. I had a male coworker who called me "pumpkin," and it used to unnerve me.
Trooning out to escape misogyny and doing it to be a yaoi boy or whatever aren't mutually exclusive, nor is the latter a requirement for it. A lot of trannies are just autistic or extremely self-hating homosexuals. I'd definitely say that a large portion of the straight TIFs are into BL or slash, but misogyny plays a role in every TIF's "transition" to varying degrees. Accusing anon of being a TIF for thinking that is TRA behavior.
Looks like a kid who walked into her parents' closet and threw on a bunch of clothes to play pretend as an adult.>>1760361
Boy is when you stop shooping your nose and waist, apparently.
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Trannies are so entitled. Here are some TiFs pissing and whining about how a children’s video game is the worst thing to ever happen in their lives. I am not sure how to create a long collage with these so I’m going to make multiple posts
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Calls herself a femboy
Why the fuck so many tifs end up whoring themselves up on of? I understand when tims do this (because men troon out to get sexual attention in the first place) but those sad traumatized women? I thought women troon out to escape sexualization/harassment. Also, they would make much more money if they got bolt ons instead of chopping their tits off. And who the fuck buys it? Men date tifs not because they are attracted to them, but because they are easy pussy. On of every whore is 3$, so why pay for something weird and deformed? >>1760814
Kek nonna where have you seen 30$ onlyfans thots? They are all 5$ at best.
TIFs reach a point where they come too close to de-trooning and need enabling, sex 'work' is shilled as a good thing in their cult circles, and they get to pretend they're owning TERFs/society as a whole/other, lesser women who still identify as female. Before trooning out was common these girls would brag about cutting themselves on 4chan before going down the junkie prostitute route.
Men will coom to humiliation porn. Obese HAES kweens, TIFs, junkies are all the same to them. They like to dangle their $3 subscription in front of the most desperate women to watch them fight for it.
>>1760900>before she donates to hate organizations>organizations that hurt people
????? What hate orgs is Undesirable no. 1 donating to? I seriously want to know and I wonder why nobody is talking about this evil woman using her money to fund evil organizations. That is very serious. First things first, lets start naming these evil orgs that probably hurt so many…
Also kek at this retard talking as if the video game industry is not full of companies that actually hurt people and by people I mean women. Are they planning on boycotting blizzard already or a TIM needs to get fired for it to happen?
I'm honestly losing more and more sympathy for TIFS each passing day. They are the ones doing TIMs dirty work. It's funny how they can't see the roles didn't change at all, they look like married straight women doing all the house chores while their lazy husbands have fun. Still stuck in the same old dynamics.
Picrel she doesn't give a shit about the boycott which seems to be failing anyway.>>1761314
Half the time they cope by making the characters tranny softbois and ignore all the sexist voice lines, like TF2. The other half they're quiet about the games that make them piss themselves like wolfenstein because the large fanbase will laugh at them. The outcry about Rowling in the past has them braver about this I guess.
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One of my (gnc) friends posted this and it's sad as fuck….
BL really makes female brains deteriorate.
She’s great, and to take her point farther, there’s not a single human creation in this world that doesn’t have something “problematic
” behind it. You could get upset about the slave labor that comes from clothes or electronics being made, you could get mad at an endless amount of artists or authors or any celebrity because almost all of them have some kind of dirt attached to them. It’s absolutely insane that all this woman has done is defend other women and donate to a buttload of charities and she is essentially Hitler, but every male celebrity who has abused women or children or minorities or done any other fucked up shit is just let go. TRAs have the most fucked up priorities I’ve ever seen.
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Fall all the hyper wokeness of TIFs, when they actually try to be the end up tryingto conform to every sort of superficial western standards of manhood and masculinity and comically fail
for e.g their stupid pube beards, many men in Africa and Asia are incapable of growing facial hair and yet they are still undeniably male, the male populations in South East Asia are shorter then most women in the world and they are still undeniably male and there are even cultures where men wear make up and make themselves beautiful but they are still undeniably male
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native andean men are short, hairless, can't grow beards and sometimes they let their hair grow to a length superior to the average of latinas, but not even a tourist seeing them for first time can confuse one as a woman, because they have the rectangular anatomy and features that all males have
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BUMP DON'T SCROLL
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the only woman who ever fooled me is Dylan Mulvaney's friend. I couldn't believe she wasn't a troon, but I'll take the L on that one.
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Idk if this belongs in the MtF thread or here but barf
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1 year on T and she still only sounds like a 13 year old boy(at best)
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And they're not even afraid to use faggot/fag when a gay man says he doesn't like vaginas, but poor of them if someone call them "straight" or tell them "you're still a woman".
To clarify, it’s not “forced sterilization” on its own; that’s the wording that TRAs use to cry about it and make it sound insane. They just require you to medically transition or get the chop if you’re a TIM before changing your legal gender. With all of the sex segregated safe guards built into things like public baths, some doctors offices, spas, etc., they can’t be legally letting a bepenised individual waltz around Brie to the 女 on his family registry. Hilarious, because most of them want to do this and more in the first place! But once it’s required, it’s inhumane and scary and horrific? The added fucking irony of getting called a TERF
when you voice some opposition to the gender doctor approved, potentially-sterilizing hormone experiments in the west too kek.
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Why is it always the lesbians who have to bear this shit, why do these fuckers not call themselves gay or "queer"? You can't have your cake and eat it too.
(Sorry for the spoiler, I can't post screenshots otherwise)
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>>1762342>sexuality isn't a choice
Hey, what about transphobic genital preferences? I guess when we talk about an aiden and a straight male, this isn't a preference but a indisputable fact isn't it lol? pathetic
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a tale as old as time
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Yeah! Or that he was suffering all his life and she should understand poor-poor him. He's the victim
picrel is also hilarious. It ok to be het and wanting a family when you're men, but if you're a woman - call yourself lesbian.
Aidens are one of the most pathetic group I swear. No one cares about them, and they just refuse to see this.
When a guy comes out as TIM people will tell his gf to hang on in there, not to give up right away, to work on it and that's its so incredibly brave for him to even come out. To be super supportive and gentle and coddle them through it
When a TIF comes out, run away from this horrible liar, this manipulator, gtfo of there right away and cancel all plans. So so manipulative of them to lie!
The gender roles (their og gender roles) are still very much at play in the replies and its painfully obvious. Go on, call her manipulative bitch. You know thats what you want to say but you can't kek
He claims she came out only 24 hours ago but says she plans on having ALL the surgeries. Something isn't adding up. But then he also says there were no hints.. and goes on to say she kept asking him questions like "what if I were a a man, would you still love me??" Is that not a strong hint?
They both sound retarded
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>>1762342>Op partner sounds manipulative
That's pure manipulation.
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This happened to me on Amazon
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How can she even think she looks male in anyway?
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She’s convinced she’s Hitler reincarnated as a super cute yaoi gay transguy and pretends to know German with google translate.. she also used to defend pedophilia on tumblr before getting chased off. She’s in the process of scrubbing her social media again right now.
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I think she maybe trolling to an extent, I mean just look at her Amazon page
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Her tiktok is a wild ride. Some highlights:>from an upper middle class American family>is 21, still lives with parents>bedroom is decorated with very stereotypical "oriental" decor>parents buy her pokemon cards, trips to disney, and lots of ugly boots>claims bipolar and autism diagnoses at 19>top surgery at 19>was dating some fat TIF but broke up within the last year>ex might have been living at parent's house with her>used to or still does horde snakes, one of which is clearly obese>wrote some awful fantasy book with self insert half demon character>seems to have spiraled further in the past year resulting in the weird hitler larping
There are also some videos where she clearly has excessive bleeding scratch marks all over the side of her face. One of which she's in the car with her mother who is acting like nothing is wrong or unusual about any of this.
Samefag, but also forgot to mention that she's been on HRT for at least four years now, which means her parents allowed her to begin to transition as a minor. It seems like they also paid for her top surgery and for the publishing of her book.>>1762814
Definitely caught that vibe too. She made a tiktok saying the ex called her manipulative and made a point to say that she obviously cared because she "bought stuff for them". I do wonder if the hitler larp was beginning and that's why the other TIF bailed or if the hitler larp is a direct result of the break up.
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made the mistake of looking at her insta and of course she has onlyfans
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Words cannot describe how much I hate this retard. I know I have already posted her but she is so retarded and homophobic. I wish she killed herself. Okay I need to stop following her, it's not worth my personal milk.
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At least someone is not completely brain dead
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From a tiktok comment deep dive people were saying she's half ethnically jewish. Imagine hating yourself so much you try to become both a female man and a jewish nazi.>>1763020
I saw someone say they worked with her at Starbucks at one point and she now works at Tokyo Joe's (I think it's a small restaurant chain but I've never heard of it)
"lesbianism in the caption"
So they're still women lol
has anyone called her a terf
? that's kinda terfy haha
>>1763012>I'm not a woman but I am a lesbian
Make it make sense. Or do they mean they are still lesbians because of sex based attraction. If so, why doesn't this same shit apply to TIMs
they say shit like this because to them woman is not "woman"
"woman" means "non-man"
I actually heard shit like that and I know people who are enby (sigh) but have the lesbian flag in their room because "they're not a man".
You have to catch these hands if you call women "non-men" in front of me.
"And he's nonbinary, but we don't identify as men"