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This is a series of threads about fakebois and trans-identified females (TIFs).
"Fakebois" are girls who pretend to be boys, either by becoming trannies or larping biological males (usually the former). Fakebois style and present themselves as androgynous or feminine-looking boys, or wearing girls' clothing and make-up while insisting on being addressed with he/him (or occasionally they/them) pronouns and take great offense at being gendered as female.
These threads are also now a catch-all for any minor TIF cows without threads of their own. Even "serious" troons, (like Kalvin Garrah and Ellen Page) are fair game, as are horrific troon surgeries and pregnancies. Just remember to spoiler that shit.
**TIFs, no one cares if you think you're ~more legit~ than the cows posted here.** Additionally, occasional discussion of fujoshis is fine, but don't sperg and infight about it.
Notable FtM-related subreddits:https://www.reddit.com/r/FtM/https://www.reddit.com/r/FtM_irl/https://www.reddit.com/r/gaytransguyshttps://www.reddit.com/r/FTM_SELFIES/https://www.reddit.com/r/FTMfemininity/
Old threads by order of recency:>>>/snow/1642478>>>/snow/1611177>>>/snow/1585143>>>/snow/1565584>>>/snow/1541490>>>/snow/1509413>>>/snow/1474951>>>/snow/1432686>>>/snow/1400739>>>/snow/1366943>>>/snow/1338847>>>/snow/1303022>>>/snow/1251681>>>/snow/1208873>>>/snow/1137677>>>/snow/1095226>>>/snow/1032764>>>/snow/979294>>>/snow/895014>>>/snow/720444>>>/snow/570991>>>/snow/465430>>>/snow/276054>>>/snow/45564
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Remember the detransitioner who talked about how hormones made her bald? She got a lot of bad responses.
they really are its even worse when you know them in real life and they act like this. I knew a trans man like this in real life who would constantly compare herself with other trans men and talk about how much better looking she is than other troons and constantly call others ugly and fat.
She is extremely short like 5'1 and used to be obsessed with yaoi before she became a trans man, she also would pretend to be bisexual and she would catfish people on amino.
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I’m usually very good at spotting troons. I always suspected Gackt was a FTM but I get called tinfoil for it.
>inb4 it’s just because he’s Asian and effeminate
No. There’s lots of effeminate looking Asian men who wear makeup but it’s easy to tell they are guys. Gackt just looks like an Asian woman on T to me. Not sure if anyone else agrees with me.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
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Also thought his tits were very big for an Asian man (even though he’s on roids clearly) and that his hips are wide for an Asian man too. As he gets older he looks more and more like a middle aged woman imo.
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Another photo where he looks like a middle aged lesbian Japanese woman (among many kek)(Tinfoil retardation)
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Why did you have to remind me of his existence nonny
Am I a bad person because I won't feel bad for them once the health challenges sneak up on them?>>1676082
100% These were the NLOGs of the past who hated the girls that were actually tomboyish and hated it when people assumed they were lesbians.
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Me this time last year hated troonshit but might have still had some doubts about calling them cultlike but there's no way to deny the culty behaviour and extreme narcissism when it's fully on display kek. Anyone detrans or not totally wanting to validate their delusion makes them shit their pants in rage and gang up. The second one looks like a Bogdanoff btw, imagine basing your transition off the most basic twinks who abuse fillers
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stumbled upon this hot take kek
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She goes on underneath the post, and then the tweet right under that is… let's say stunning and brave. She does a lot of porn on her account in general too, moaning with her creaky frog voice.if not for troon shit, engorged clit and tit scars, she'd be a cute-ish woman smh
Reposted because I couldn't spoiler properly lmfao
>>1676047>full grown man
No, you're a mentally ill 5'3" 20-something in what appears to be a shitty Stranger Things cosplay.
>full head of hair
With a hairline like that? I don't think so lmao.
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Tbh I was impressed by the shoulders on this one so I googled.
Nah sis just angles and hunching.
Indeed they do and that's why I would never refer to what happens in porn as fully consensual sex.>>1676491
Wow I wonder why it is that gay men complain about being gay and you ladies don't… that's a real head scratcher! Seriously though, how can they post this shit and not realise that they are not subject to homophobia and never have been? The closest most TIFs get is when they're assumed to be butch lesbians which is always funny to watch because they'll shart and scream about it for a week, kek.
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Not sure why, but it looks like someone went a long way trying to "beautify" The Adoring Fan from Oblivion and yet couldn't quite get rid of that "uncanny valley" look.
Kek, even with just the tiny pfp to compare you could tell it was all angles and filters. And I could spot the forced hunching because I always see retarded roided gymbros do it, except they at least have muscles.>>1676513
lmao this is spot on nonny
. literally just yassified adoring fan
It's been hilarious to see how stereotypically feminine/mean girl-ish/bitchy their response to that detrans woman has been.>uhm u ugly, now look at this picture of me… I am like SO sexy in this dress/mansona cosplay
A man would send violent threats and these aydyns are sending selfies lmao.
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>>1676047>>1676049>>1676588>the peak masculine a ftm can achieve is a fucking soyboy, the most low testosterone male there is
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Felt conflicted in whether to post this on spicy straights or here since she doesn’t even want people to use male pronouns on her just wants everyone all to knows she’s “trans fluid” which sounds like some horrible symptom from a venereal disease
>>1676491>fight to be considered gay
And that's how you know you're not gay. Real lesbians and gays never had to fight to be considered gay because they just are. They had to fight for actual material rights and to not be hate crimed and discriminated against.>Most trans men are ecstatic to be seen as gay. We don't take it for granted.
That's because you see gayness as a trendy new label and a way to validate your 24/7 LARP as a man instead of just a state of being. Real gays complain about being gay because they've had to face real struggles because of it. The ones who don't want to be seen as gay feel that way because of shame and fear from leaving in a society with homophobic freaks like this.
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Either be a pothead or be a troon. They're too annoying to be combined.
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> all my friends are straight
How is smoking weed masculine. Also look at that pathetic joint>>1677633>all my friends are trans and gay
So straight. They are straight.
The irony of her claiming smoking makes her feel masculine (lol what is this the 1920s?) when she's smoking a joint with lavender in it. Obv men can smoke other herbs with their weed but I typically associate that sort of thing with hippie/witchy female stoners. Like when herbal cigarettes were popular at my school. I only ever saw girls smoking them.>>1677633
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Another from twitter. This one looks dead.
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Yes. Her pre-transition self looks like the horsegirl who called me a dyke in high school.
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Boy in the Striped Pyjamas-esque
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Oh hey it's the kid from Charlie and the Chocolate Factory
Why does she look so normal in the second pic? Did something happen between this comparison and this >>1677906
? She went from an average baby faced butch to a ptsd riddled pauper who begs on the street for coppers kek
It looks like started smoking crack between >>1677993
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Do you believe Jacob, anons?
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Hey fat bitch, get off this site you are not welcomed
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Well she retweeted this on the 13th, the same day this was posted to the last thread, so I'm leaning towards self-poster. It's not uncommon for these freaks to play both sides of the fence.
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Samefagging but the jokes just write themselves with this one.
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>>1678492>a fat man is so empowering for doing the least bc he doesn’t have to adhere to female beauty standards >doesn’t realize that men get praises and asspats for being funny, creative, whatever, whilst fat because people consider men as humans with personalities
Hun you can not identify out of sexism. A funny fat girl will not be celebrated the way a fat gay man is. He is not uplifting you, a woman, in any way.
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Checked up on a personal cow I knew from ages ago, turns out she's yet another one to go the "twink gay achillean" route while just looking like any other woman with hirsutism.
looking like the gross loser uncle who outgrew his shirt, drinks, and stinks
except with loser aunt hair
I wouldn't even give this thing a gender, I'd just stay away from it lmao
they want to be ugly men though. that’s the fucked part. if they’re men they can be hairy and greasy with those gross little pencilled on moustaches and they think it’s sexy.
it absolutely boggles my mind that they go out of their way to make themselves as repulsive as possible.
Hips don't lie>>1678756
"Twink" has lost its meaning with how many TiFs use it. Good riddance, the whole twink bear thing is cringe.>>1678866
If it was more acceptable to let yourself go as a woman, be disgusting and hairy without calling your gender identity into question, there'd be less girls with no self esteem turning to testosterone to solve all their problems. They wouldn't stop being disgusting unfortunately.
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Are there any stereotype charts for FtMs yet? It's been a few years into the whole tranny trend, so there are probably quite a few subtypes people can distinguish from the "unwashed hairy blob" to "Shinji Ikari/Ellen Page-core"
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from a previous thread
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Sage for vidyasperg but this was so funny. I’m gonna copypasta this anytime a tra comes after me.
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Off-topic but a lot of TIFs really hate lesbians. Brandon Teena, the TIF murder victim
, had extreme hatred for lesbians, as shown in this article.
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they feel so entitled to asskissing from actual gay people lol. this thread is filled with so much contempt towards normie gays and lesbians for not being the lgbtqia+ activist caricatures they read about on reddit
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This whole thread is everyone being offended by everyone/anyone and complaining about being hurt and a victim
by someone or anyone. Funny when they're spicy straights crying that they're not welcomed by homosexuals.
looked it up and that article was written by Carolyn Gage, Gage is a minor cow in the radfem scene, she's like a lesbian feminist version of Milo Yiannopoulos in that she believes her own lesbiansm was caused by her father molesting her, she has also has a weird obsession with incest, like she advocates for victims
of csa by their parents(which is understandable) but she brings up the subject a lot in her works and has written multiple plays featuring father's molesting daughter's and mother's molesting son's, and stated that Louisa May Scott was molested by her father and then she molested her sons,
you should take what she says with a grain of salt
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It's all so bad I have to refrain from just screen capping and posting everything, but this one is one of the best.
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The comments are gold
I genuinely could not imagine wanting
to be in these spaces. Cis gay males in highly affluent areas are just coomer sociopaths and arguably the only real
male Patrick Batemans. Why would you want to throw yourself into the trenches of a space that notoriously only wants, cares about, thinks about, and shows any humanity for men that look exactly like them. I think the naive belief that gay male spaces like that are accepting or will view you as anything more than subhuman is exclusively female, because even gays from outside this clique are completely aware they’re horrible human beings.
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Vendettaposting one of my personal cows but what kind of piercing is that between the eyes called it’s making me queasy
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It looks like a bridge piercing with ugly jewellery in it
Correct. Those edgy stoppers screw in real tight to the skin too to keep that effect so unless they only wear them for photos/a night out or something, it'll end up rejecting even faster.
TIFs are about the only group left I know that really love eyebrow piercings too.
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that thumbnail alone triggers
a deep primal rage within me.
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This Oliver Twist wannabe was the one who posted that detransitioners regretting the irreversible damage done to their bodies are no different than people who get shitty tattoos.
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Also props to the person who added this on tumblr. I know there are some shitty communities on tumblr but I’ve noticed more users questioning the trans movement.
Except tattoos don't require regular, lifelong upkeep and expensive medications/surgeries. And they won't cause major organs to malfunction and atrophy.
Even then…you need to be 18 to get tattooed, unless you're parents don't really care about you and give it the greenlight. There probably should be more gatekeeping involved in tattooing anyway considering so many people my age have the dumbest and most hideous tattoos I've ever seen.
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looked her up on twitter and she has the girliest writing style ever and is of course autistic
>>1679542>actual gay people are so transphobic
hmm I wonder why>>1679542>Second-wave "feminism">the wave that gave women the right to divorce, use birth control and abortion, and open bank accounts in their own name
What does this clown think feminism is, if not for the liberation of females from males?
She's not the only aiden who dreams about a terf
domme kek. This thread used to be full of "forced detrans" kinks.
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In my experience "pacifists" always end up being passive aggressive and bitchy, it's like copium for those who know they'd get their ass kicked if they ever got into a physical altercation. I sincerely hope "Moe" gets her shit rocked by mouthing off to the wrong person and I can say that with zero guilt. Fucker has it coming.
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Looked at this reddit out of morbid curiosity and this was the first image. Patrick star was beheaded for this, rip. NSFL as these usually are, dunno why she'd tag it "celebratory".
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Can someone decipher
No fucking idea but my best guess is something like
>“Me changing my made-up gender to be more simple for when I’m with people who are semi-normal and don’t have time to research my extensive niche microlabels instead of my batshit insane friend group who enable all of my mental illnesses and support me creating a new gender identity other every week while somehow also wanting to abolish the concept of gender at the same time”
So basically admitting they’re so insane and convoluted that even other LGBTQ activists wouldn’t understand or support their “identity” kek
even real chodes are useless
whatever doctor did this is an asshole. I've seen more realistic dildos
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my fave thing about "gay trans men" is the fact they all go out of their way to wear the most feminine clothing they can find. (also kek at the harry potter book on the shelf behind her)
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she wasn't butch/tomboy pre-transition. she was a pink-loving long-haired straight girl obsessed with dr who and sherlock.
speaking of which: i would LOVE to see a venn diagram of tifs and superwholock. i feel like reading so much explicit slash fic about ugly men is a big part of their identities. like of course you're gonna think you're a gay man if you've pavlov'd yourself into associating gay men with pleasure.
i think a lot of nonnies into masc women agree with you, but I see the same sentiment for feminine women posted in here sometimes too>>1680421
this unpopular opinion is a basic observation of a portion of troon demographics nonny
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>>1680213>Also just imagining her doing a victorian era costume >1800s
anon you're not gonna believe this
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Ayrt, oh kek. Despite her efforts though she somehow gives the vibe even more in her normal pictures, especially the top left where it's like she's about to go pickpocket for Fagin.
I wish i could fix her
And they're enjoying them actually, since trannies are a bunch of munchies, they always talk about >muh I'm dying>muh I have chronic pain>Geez I wonder why I'm so uwu sick sicky
I just can't believe they're allowed to mutilate their bodies when they're just your average munchie, I wouldn't be surprised if most of them tried to get their legs amputated like that one munchie cow.
>>1680487>Japanese fujoshi never troon out
Actually, the japanese BL fandom has a growing rate of TiFs because gender ideology as we know in the west is slowly getting more and more popular in Japan.
Gengoro Tagame also said in an interview from a few years ago that trans BL writers have always been a thing (same for lesbian BL writers, male BL writers, etc).
That said, even if gender is turning popular in the japanese BL fandom, it will still be much less political than ours, as they want to keep it a place of escapism and hobby instead of a ground for activism.
Self-sage for off-topic sperging.
that’s just the never ending American influence but before it wasn’t a thing.>>1680869
I noticed that too it’s really weird but tbh I keep running into Arab enbies all the time.
It’s insane how far this has spread and because of that I have a hard time imagining it will go away
I don't know much about Genshin Impact, maybe anons talked about it in the Genshin Impact threads on /m/, it's about new characters being from a certain region inspired by North Afria, the Middle East and parts of Asia, and people complained about how light skinned they were or how their outfits weren't similar enough to real traditional clothes. I saw all of this out of context and then a friend of mine sperged about this after I asked her wtf was going on. idk there's some catgirl in there that has a NA first name and people were made she's wearing a bikini armor or some shit idk.
>they were likely berbers
Yeah that's what I said, and I'm one too. But these twitter girls weren't proud of it the usual way, they were copypasting typical American SJW speeches in their posts and bios, it was weird to say the least. Btw I blocked the Tunisian TIF long ago and can't find her account anymore but iirc she's a lesbian and she legally transitioned in France so she's taking hormone treatments and got surgery, I wouldn't be surprised if she did this because of homophobia and because of expectations placed on women in our culture and Islam.
>>1680921>I only know one Tunisian ayden because of her really ugly MGS fanart on tumblr
dontdierobb? God, her ability to make characters so hideous really is something else. She's got serious brainrot from being terminally online and IIRC in one of her e-begging posts she mentioned having a child and being a single "father". Poor kid.>>1680924>palestinians are infamous for being either islamist or the worst types of western educated tankies
I'm half Palestinian and it's fucking embarrassing how westernised some have become. They'll scream about how bad the Americans are and then lecture you about "neo gender" shit that was invented by American middle-class white teenagers on tumblr.
you're spot on, nonna. if they call themselves a lesbian or bisexual, or even something stupid like pansexual or trans man, then you can argue they don't really count because they don't match the definition. but queer has no definition so even "kinksters" have been calling themselves queer and sneaking into lgb spaces. it's just anything they don't think of as "normal".
it's also an easy way to groom kids by getting them under the queer umbrella too, since that makes it easier to slide in pedo and troon ideas without it being as big of a jump. they're gonna feel like they're part of the queer team and want to cape for anybody else who calls themselves that.
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This girl on TikTok said basic facts and made a lot of fakeboi’s mad lmao.
Good. We need more young women like her to point out how ridiculous this shit is. Bringing up the fact that the "lol u mad, ur so triggered
" crowd get's triggered
by pink packaging is a good way to start slowly peaking people.
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"masc women dress bad xD"
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I’ve actually noticed the tides kind of turning on there recently. At least among more normal, smaller creators. Maybe my FYP is curated though.
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tswift used a tif in one of her videos
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Sorry if this is off topic/was
discussed before but they made a doll from kid's franchise genderspecial
Also the actress of that character in the live auction is a fakeboi
Rip edgy monster high
>>1680997> Bringing up the fact that the "lol u mad, ur so triggered" crowd get's triggered by pink packaging
Those were the same people that kickstarted the whole “please add triggers
!” on the internet, so fucking weird how the gendies side of sjws adopted a weird edgy personal
KEK>>1681124>we're so inclusive, unlike those mean TERFs>pretty girls should follow the popular narrative, all TERFs are ugly crones>>1681196
My first thought was wondering how the Gaylor tinfoilers are handling this. Do they bring up the biologically female elephant in the room or do they pretend it's business as usual?
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FTM incels are just sad to see, like imagine arguing that feminism is why straight women aren’t attracted to them, when they look like picrel and you know don't have penises
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samefag. not a ftm
I think this is just a cis man, what he's posted is just typical cis man commentary>wah I'm alone definitely nothing to do with my personality or looks>all the loser men I talk to get their opions about women from other loser men online, so just repeat peterson/tate/bad feminists/metoo rhetoric.
No trans nonsense to be seen, so Iuno why he is posted here unless I'm misreading something
This image format needs to be used more >>1681193
The fact you can often spot a TIF because they have soul and kindness in their eyes, which is disturbingly absent in many/most cis men's eyes
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US tranny survey is open
nta but I did fill it out not being a tif or detransitioner and it mainly just made me question why i was doing the test. Most of the questions dont have anything to do with self ID or feelings. I wouldn't fill this out even for the meme, its just boring and you cant really milk a "le epic terf
own" through mass poll-taking with this one.
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Why do they write like this
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Haha we should enter pretending to be fakebois just to see what happens. Imagine one of us taking the prize from an actual tranny
It's such a cutesy way of talking, they seem so sheltered to believe men are these adorable twee creatures, like men are literally the worst monsters on the earth considering the harm and torture they inflict on other people and the environment, then you get these girls talking about their duderuses like that's a thing a single cis male would come up with
You can't even blame fiction/media since men are accurately represented as monsters in much of fiction. I don't see how trans mascs can balance the knowledge of what a man is with their belief they are one.
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For an account that frequently posts about gender affirming surgery i have to laugh
What? You think every woman who had her uterus taken out due to medical reasons walks around with a prolapsed vagina?
You get to a certain point of obesity and you end up somewhat androgynous.
…which the TIFs still manage to fuck up, still insisting on getting the titchop to be 100% completely flat just like their anime boys even though a man that size would absolutely have manboobs, thus making them easy to clock and just generally giving them a weird shape.
The weeaboo to weeble pipeline, if you will.
I know literally just one TIF who is taking advantage of T for that purpose.
Said TIF also has a muscle growth kink, so I'm certain that she expects to become one of the massive musclebeasts she always draws thinly veiled fetish art of.
Learn to sage.>>1682196
It does happen.
>>1682351> Most TiFs don't seem like anachans after deciding they weren't Female.
Ellen Page and >>1677906
definitely do which seen more like a sort of middle life crisis where they refuse to get old(understably since old women are treated like shit, specially lesbians) and since for tiny women is so easy to pull the boy look they troo out.
Because trans itself is the identity.
Why put in all this effort only to end up just a regular person? When you're trans you're SPECIAL and everyone has to pay attention to you!
I'm convinced that this is why the word "queer" is so commonly used nowadays (because being a regular ol gay or lesbian seems so normie) and part of the reason why surgery scars are so glorified (it's permanent proof of how UNIQUE AND SPECIAL you are)
>>1682600>I’d also say that given how sensitive/insecure trans people are they would go apeshit if anyone even made the suggestion.
The FTM I work with constantly moans about being misgendered. One day she asks me how I can get occasionally read as male when I'm "just a butch, not a real man" like her (kek), so I tell her that I have a typically masculine frame and politely
suggest that she lose weight (she carries a lot on her hips and ass) and start building muscles, particularly upper body strength if she wants a better chance of appearing male. Last fucking time I try being polite to a troon because she sperged the fuck out about it. She ranted that the fitness industry is fatphobic, transphobic, homophobic and racist (poor widdle straight white girl) and that I was incredibly rude to suggest such a thing to a "marginalised person". I really wanted to argue back that there's also rampant misogyny in the fitness industry, not that she cares about it, and that I'm a middle eastern lesbian yet I don't use these excuses to not work out. But I knew it would be like talking to a brick wall. Troons like her are lost causes, they've meme'd themselves in believing they're so oppressed that they can't do practically anything.
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You can't fix fakebois
Also check out r/arethecisok, it's full of milk
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I went to universal studios the other day with my nigel, and I saw a lot of TIFS. There was one who was black, who was wearing a cape that said "trans bitches are witches", my nigel pointed it out at first, which I didn't see, but when he saw her again I saw it. Her friends were all white tifs.
Sorry to blogpost, but I noticed that all WOC who are tifs always have white friends. I pointed out that woc are usually ostracized from specific communities, so they usually troon out or act like caricatures of white queers. As a woc myself, I did this on my own and when I see woc fall into the same trap, I always feel terrible.
My own cousin calls herself nonbinary despite only dating men and being very feminine. How do I help my own friends and family from stopping themselves to get like this?
its not that complicated, the black community is not that welcoming towards black girls with alterative interests, that's why so many hyperwoke woc
end up dating white guys, its cause those are the guys they interact most with
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This is going to be kind of gross and specific to fandom, but remember how mpreg was seen as this cringe fetishy fujo trope? It's now apparently seen as a trans thing and most people who like it now are ftm?? It's really weird
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most TIFs don't seem to interact with regular men other then their father's and brother's
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>>1683502>she doesn't know about the squats and oats meme
that TiF is never going to make it
For me, it was her face. Men rarely have big eyes and short nose like women. Even if she looks like a disgusting scrote, she is still too pretty to look like a man to me. Same reason why I still find >>1681193
pretty. She has those beautiful and big eyes that most women have.>>1683502
I too eat my feminine oatmeal every morning.
how the fuck?
i thought mpreg was supposed to be a fetishistic thing but now it's considered progressive i guess???
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Imagine spending thousands of your family's money on unnecessary surgeries then going no contact with them for violent pronoun abuse to move to your QPP's hoarding house with a throuple of sex offenders in Portland all to wear makeup, heels, dresses, and shave daily.
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came across a "he/they" in the wild while scrolling art twt
Feminine woman = basic bitch
Feminine man (fakeboi) = quirky and special
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reposting from the MTF thread, a former FTM did a blog post about the fujo to troon pipeline
>It seems to be even more common these days to see these het girls who are now “gay men”. The vast majority of “Trans women” who previously lived lives as straight men are actually Heterosexual Males who fetishize women and lesbians and like to fancy themselves “real women” in order to aid in their sexual fantasies : aka autogynophiles. By now most of you in gender-critical land are familiar with this term.
>However, there is a growing minority of “trans men” who assimilate into trans status out of fetishizing gay men and homosexuality as straight/bi women. Obviously a lot of it(why a female believes she is actually male) is a personal effort to escape female oppression (many het FtT’s are victims of sexual abuse by males, very early, and probably repeatedly) , but to deny that females don’t ever fetishize gay men is dishonest. It’s not exactly the same as autogynophelia. Consider the following before drawing the connection :
>Many of these young women get their intro into modern trans identities, “pan sexuality” and assorted garbage-tumblr-thought from anime and manga communities. Which are mostly, teenagers and youngins, though many adults also creepily participate in these communities (which is easily done through children lieing about their age online and adults also lieing about being way-too-fucking-old-for-this-shit).
>Particularly, I’m talking about Yaoi manga communities.
>Which for those who’ve never heard, is a female produced gay porn/romance erotica comic that objectifies gay males from a very stereotypically feminine perspective and typically involve the theme of statutory rape, and male-on-male pedophilia) similarly, but not as brutally violent and real as how straight men objectify lesbians via “lesbian porn” and fantasies from a masculine/male gazing perspective. These genres of pornographic imagery are in no way representative of REAL homosexual relationships or connect with the lives of homosexuals actually in the gay community. They are fiction, fantasy.
>The biggest difference between these yaoi-bois “gay trans men” and the autogynophiles, is these females aren’t viewing themselves the way that women typically objectify men. They don’t want to be hairy, muscular male models. They want the long eyelashes, long hair and slim build of a teen boy that looks like and behaves like a stereotypical girl. But as young females, they may already have these characteristics, so its not about coveting and masturbating to the image of a grown man body they want, but rather an escapist fantasy of a lifestyle that exists only in romance novels, minus the presence of the brutish lout that is usually the hero in such phallocentric storylines.
>The typical yaoi-crazed FTM wants for others, specifically real gay men with similar effeminate qualities to see them as male. She wants for gay men to date her because she wants to recreate this yaoi fantasy IRL. Unluckily for her, gay men don’t like vaginas, they don’t like female bodied people. But because females aren’t conditioned with such violent boundary violations, they are unlikely to call anyone a bigot or lash out at a gay man who doesn’t understand why a “trans man” (gender non conforming female) is trying to sleep with him. The reality is that outside of the young trans-trender bubble at the anime convention, a lot of males probably don’t want to re-inact the “queerified” heterosexual version of yaoi in their personal lives. Even more unfortunately for her, men prey on these female-to-trans. The het and bi FTMs aren’t really Gay Men, so they CAN get pregnant, and having sex with bisexual men puts them at a big risk for AIDS and STDs.
>This phenomenon posses as big of a danger to female-to-trans as “lesbian trans women” face to actual lesbians. And I’m not really sure why no one is bringing it up.
this was written all in 2015, and its only gotten worse
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STOP BRINGING SHAYNA INTO FUCKING EVERYTHING. I CAN'T GO A SINGLE GODDAMN THREAD WITHOUT SEEING A SHAYNA MENTION. YA'LL TRULY DO NEED TO MAKE A SHAYGOSSIP SITE AND MOVE THAT DEMENTED THREAD THERE AND FREE THE REST OF US FROM YOUR STUPID SHAYSHACKLES.
WHAT THE FUCK IS SHAY-TAAN, WHAT THE FUCK,YOU THINK SHE'S KAWAII? WELL, LET ME TELL YOU, ANON-KUN, NOBODY CARES. NOBODY GODDAMN CARES. HELL, EVEN I DON'T CARE. MODS CAN BAN ME FOR AUTISM, SCREAMING, SCHIZOPHRENIA, SHAY-CHAN DERANGEMENT SYNDROME, AND A MILLION OTHER ARMCHAIR PHYSIATRIC AILMENTS BUT I DON'T GIVE TWO SHITS! IT NEEDED TO BE SAID! WHO CARES! WHO CARES IF SHAYSENPAI LIKES OVERNIGHT OATS! NOBOBDY! AT LEAST, NOBODY ON THE GODDAMN F T M THREAD YOU ABSOLUTE MORON! GO BACK TO YOUR CONTAINMENT THREAD AND LEAVE THE REST OF US ALONE!(autism)
I guess this is copypasta material?>>1684492
Nonna can you explain in the dumbass things or retarded shitposting thread, why they want me to eat overnight oats?
Can you imagine how miserable one has to be to put every aspect of their life into boxes? Can't even have some fucking oats without worrying it doesn't suit made-up ideas about "gender". How does it feel to be more regressive than conservatives >>1684490>>1684492
Liking Omegaverse and TiF-ism is correlation, not causation. It's a part of the larger Female fanfiction sphere and began to be a thing around the time Teen Wolf was really big. It's sexually weird but ultimately harmless. I've heard part of the appeal is to have it be commentary on power imbalance and oppression in gay/lesbian relationships, though it's also just used to write non-con.
If anything TiFs are more likely to bitch about Omegaverse because it's not the "true and honest" gay Male experience and "Female fetishisizers are at it again!"
Ntayrt but I agree. I'm also an old fujo who never got the whole appeal of mpreg, and adding omegaverse/A-B-O dynamics on top of it makes it that much less appealing IMO. Feels like one of the main selling points of BL is the idea of relationships where A) there's no pregnancy risk and B) neither party has been born into some sort of pre-defined sex role. Omegaverse shit pretty much wrecks all of the above.
I'm not saying all fujoshi who are into A/B/O are TiFs, but I'd strongly suspect that there's a lot of TiFs who are into this kind of thing, and that the increase of TiFs is leading to the increase in omegaverse fans. Because your submissive tradwife/broodmare fantasies are totally heckin' ~valid
~ if you're also fantasizing about being a man at the same time.
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fr it must be so tiresome to inhabit these contradictions in the search for something to make you special
, you were so blinded by your rage that you missed the opportunity to make a "shayckles" pun
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How did they go from "if people don't perceive me as masculine I will kill myself which is why I have to perform masculinity" to "actually doesn't exist" without breaking their brains.
>>1684665>I've heard part of the appeal is to have it be commentary on power imbalance and oppression in gay/lesbian relationships, though it's also just used to write non-con.
It's not a commentary on jack shit, it's a pure fetish thing. Some people like >>1684665
may read BL to escape heteronormativity, but with Omegaverse, applying extreme heteronormative rules to homosexual relationships is the whole appeal.
I'm not scandalized over people liking A/B/O or anything, God knows I'm a fujo with some weird-ass kinks myself, but with things like Omegaverse, you have to admit firsthand that it's about eroticizing inequality and there's no real way to morally "defend" it.
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The American brainrot is showing no signs of slowing down. They’re all carbon copies of each other.
The thrifting video is her trying her dad’s pants.
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kek at the last one. how sad is it that even while pretending to be men they have to be "sissies" AKA men who are seen as lesser and humiliated because they're feminine. The conditioning is so strong that they can't even picture themselves as anything other than objects and submissive.>>1684787
yep, here's the original. OT but I was going to say that even in the edit you can tell the drawings are AGP (as in it's a MtF due to the sexualized feminine clothes) but I found out that the artist is lacryboy kek.>>1685264
Buck angel had an interview with her lately. While everyone is suspecting her of being a plant or they're busy rubbing it in her face that THEY didn't go bald from hormones.. She's textbook detran. Hair is the least of her worries. She experienced CSA, had to go to court and relive it, grew up in purity culture and was shamed for having 'lost her virginty' at like 7 years old to her abuser. She was told her future husband would be losing out on the privilige of taking it instead. Thats how grown men treated her and spoke to her all her life. When she's (no fucking surprise) suicidal as a teen she's rushed onto hormones without question.
I wish her the best. Her views are pretty middle of the road rn. All she really wants is for teens to not be so fast tracked onto hormones. Of course nobody cares about her full story. Petty shits like Ty Turner just care about gloating.
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this was made by a TIF btw
She's such an obvious TIF I can't believe there are people in the art salt threads
who think she's male.
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she draws hetali porn for christs sake and is into riddlebat
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You have to be woefully naive to think this female artist is a man. If you can't tell from the art style alone, her username is literally a reference to a fucking Nicole Dollanganger song (with "boy" tacked on at the end like every fakeboi on the internet does/calls herself)
This is kinda odd to me considering her gf doros3n has said she's anti porn on her curiouscat because she saw a documentary about how abusive
the industry is. 2d porn isn't as bad as 3d, I guess they're both more on the "fiction is fiction" side.
The art style, their entire game being exclusively yaoi, and one of the characters being a gay boy with anorexia, (along with anorexic girl culture, diet coke, "ugw" saying being told being weak and frail is a compliment, pretty much Scott's entire character is exactly something a girl who's dealt with an ed first hand would write, has all read as female to me, but honestly the drawing of a futa fucking a woman's corpse lacry did was enough make me think she was an actual guy at first. I don't follow her because her stuff varies in degeneracy too much but I do follow doro.
But all that with the fact that her get to know the artist thing said something like "take a wild guess" under gender instead of just saying she was a guy is convincing me she's either just a coombrained woman or a bi man who's very very in touch with his feminine side thanks to his gf, because I just cannot see a normal dude writing the anorexic character by himself.
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Forgot about this pic yeah she's a woman
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you will never be sid
Femcel physiognomy is similar to pooner physiognomy aktually (low and narrow cheekbones, long and rounded face, receding chin). Only top and bottom left on that picture really fit that, everyone else has nothing in common except le mousy outfit.
The only difference is that femcels have a more "predatory/schizo" and therefore more "male" stare than tifs kek
Trans people bullying CSA victims
? Nothing new there
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Here's one of several versions, spoiler because OT
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No moid would ever write this gay or not. Most women over the age of 12 wouldn't either. Aidens are the most girly girls in existence and I can't begin to fathom why they think they're really men.
I've never seen women or girls write blog posts like this, only TIFs. At most I've seen them praise their own boyfriend.
Do women fear being called sluts for saying these things? Is this why some Aidens troon out?
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Horse girl phenotype.>>1686003
Jesus Christ, spoiler that shit!
The only thing in common with all these women is brown hair and glasses. Some of them are prettier some of them are uglier though. Which tells me men are so fucking retarded they can't even tell apart a pretty woman's face from an ugly one as long as they have some sort of shtick going on that their ape brains can identify with "hot gurl traits". (It's funny because if I'm not wrong Jodi got a makeover pre-trial to look more inoffensive and sweeter, i remember her with blond hair and no glasses in her interrogation tapes).
Men literally can't stop owning themselves lmao, no wonder they always get scammed and taken advantage from by said "schizoid Femcels" if all it takes is to put on a wig and a pair of glasses.
That’s what years of taking lgb jokes seriously and letting it get to your self esteem even thought same-sex marriage wasn’t allowed in the US before 2015 (i’m assuming that OP is American).
I used to feel bad but for people that let the woke rhetoric get to them but literally just log off.
kek I love the turn this thread has taken>>1686197
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ngl but Marcus (aka The Offensive Tranny on ytb) is kinda cute, too bad she couldnt insert herself as a tomboy. she also is the most « not like the other trannies » possible, worse than Kalvin Garrah kek also i would like her to top me
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nonnies what do we recommend true and honest Mr MJ here cover the totally noticeable terf tattoo up with?
>>1686274>Lumberjack looking women
this person >>1686225
just cause she isn't traditionally feminine doesn't mean she's masculine in any sense
Why not just get a huge, throbbing cock tattooed over it? That way people will know you're a kowtowing handmaiden and definitely not a TERF
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claims testosterone made her jaw take on a new form. looks to me like she's jutting out her neck and lost some weight.
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She looks like a lesbian Buddy Holly.
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Horrifying. I know she's not a TIF but this is what happens when they encourage women to mutilate their breasts.
Welp, I thought I liked masc women/butches too, but any sort of facial hair makes me wanna hurl. Get rid of the pubestache and maybe we can talk. I did find one spastic TiF on Youtube who had detransed after getting the top chop and she did make me feel some kind of way, though mostly I was just pissed that the only women who are free to go topless on Youtube are the ones who have mutilated themselves.>>1686232
KEK now I can't unsee it, ty
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Boyfriends is basically patient zero for being able to tell when something was drawn by someone w/a vagina
"crave dick" is such a weird way to put it, do you mean it increased your sex drive? because if that was the case, which it most likely is, there's a huge difference between seeking partnered sex and just wanting to get off. it's weird to assume that people have sex b/c they're "horny" imho - when there's another person involved, their presence changes the dynamic. especially if you're the woman.
buck angel also said that she started having sex with men after transitioning, despite being a man hating lesbian beforehand or something. I think that getting validation from males is probably appealing to women during that tumultuous time, idk. because you're so marginalized and others for larping as a man you just take all you can get, maybe.
every single straight man who has gone along w a TiF's charade to get sex seemed like a pig, though.
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this fakeboi lauren who now goes by river. she uses the social media handle queefcafe or queefcafeteria. she was known for making fun of gsa kids on tikTok as a butch lesbian and being a mega terf on tumblr but now she injects herself with testosterone and acts like a boy posting her barely developed tits on tumblr
she also follows the same logic most TIF’s have where they start liking men after they start hormones
I think people underestimate how easy it is for formerly religious people to brainwash themselves into believing something that is blatantly untrue and illogical, particularly young adults who are still developing their identities outside the cult. I was 18 when I left home and ran straight into the arms of my local 'queer' support groups and it wasn't hard to shift my thinking a bit to the right and make peace with it - until I started talking more with some of the stunning and brave transwimmin I was supposed to be championing. >>1686718
Agreed but she seems insufferable.
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no, you don't
(cropped to save your eyes from revolting ftm porn)
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What the actual fuck. Lowkey disturbing.
She claims to be “happily married” in her carrd, but seems to be living with the twitter user tagged in her bio with heart emojis around it, (who’s also a fakeboi). And she’s also really vocal about ‘self shipping’ herself with fictional men. Who tf is having sex with this ugly retard
hope she at least stopped T meanwhile, she sound so crazy and uninformed too (like fucking putting CW for pregnancy), cuz shes gonna fuck up that baby on sight
or at least i wish she gets a miscarriage, this baby is gonna see hell w her
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I actually believe that cause it happens a lot with TIMs. At first I thought it was plain ol regular perversion and misogyny but I can't imagine how fried your brain gets with cross sex hormones. It would be interesting if there were more studies on this, I could only find one survey and it's behind a pay wall
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That doesn’t even look like Jesse kek
Detrans lesbian here. I didn't take T for long enough to cause any significant physical/mental changes, but in my troon phase I did think I liked "guys" even though I had only ever dated women before (and since). I've got a theory that for some people, they're attracted to perceived similarities or differences between their partner and themselves, rather than strictly attracted to certain body types or whatever.
Consider women who don't want guys who are shorter than them (or even close to the same height); without a specific kind of height difference in the relationship, these women feel unfeminine/unattractive. Also you could say that "attraction to similarity" is common in gays and "attraction to difference" is common in straight people, but that's not 100% accurate, buff tomboys who like twinky dudes are still straight.
I'm also not saying that T turns women into men and that's why their sexuality appears to change; it's happening in the mind. "Oh I'm a boy now and therefore it's OK for me to express my previously-suppressed attraction to men because we're both guys and I no longer have to feel icky about being so different from a male partner."
Sage for blogpost/retarded armchair theories
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more photos of her tits
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ywnbam even typing this
Since when does pregnancy need a fucking content warning??? Does EVERYTHING make these gendie woke lunatics feel unsafe??
CW dumbasses you're alive and living in a world with other people and you can't control absolutely everything.
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The amount of neurodivergent girls who are tifs is concerning
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At this point it's safe to assume every tif is some flavor of ND, mostly autism. The "autism is the ultimate boy brain" larp that Dr. Simon Baron-Cohen released for sure led to a whole generation of awkward shy girls thinking they're boys because they're weird
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there's a fakeboi in that new stopmotion halloween flick out on netflix
at one point he shows the MC a past photo where he is very feminine, and remarks that that is how she "tried" to be, because obviously if you are not super feminine you're a man
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What a great show. Telling young, black girls who probably already feel different from their friends that if they don't want to slay in their pussy-pop-XL-hoops and revealing clothing with a wig or their hair slicked back as the cherry on top that means you are a man. Wtf is this, Jordan?>one of the producers is a blonde, jewish woman
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Yeah I don't buy that T "changes" your sexuality; it's just your perception of yourself and your sex life that changes. I have PCOS and when my sex drive rose I didn't miraculously start craving dick. Same with some ex "straight transmen" I know; they became fuckboys and slept around more but they never went near a moid. I don't blame OSA women for having weird feelings towards being intimate with a man giving how sexualised women are by men, the power dynamics, etc, but you're not a "lesbian" that suddenly evolved into a bisexual.>>1687774>>1687775
I wonder if autism or simple youth causes some of these TIFs to think human behavior in terms of rigid streotypes.
I remember seeing a show by a TIF stand-up comedian, who described her identity crisis over being "butch" but liking guys, how she "tried" to be a lesbian, and how identifying as a "gay man" finally clicked with her. I was pro-trans when I saw her show and even then I was baffled over she saw human sexuality; why "try" being a lesbian if you're not actually attracted to women? Couldn't she have been just a masculine straight woman? I wonder if many TIFs have similar view, where human sexual orientation is about behavioral stereotypes and not who you are attracted to.
AYRT, I think it's totally different when you've been through CSA though. Like I can understand how that would make things very complicated when you're trying to figure out your sexuality and why you would might assume you're not attracted to men because of an aversion. When it comes to TIFs who haven't been through that I think >>1687860
sum things up well. I also think the kweerio types will just try to claim the "coolest" orientation or whatever gets them ahead in the Oppression Olympics, hence the "lesbians" that were actually bi or even straight all along.
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God does she actually think she looks like a male?(attention-seeking male)
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A TiM worked on it so I’m not surprised it turned out to be TRA propaganda.
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how embarrassing to get caught self-posting on lolcow kek
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Kek at the troon acting like trannies lurk or post lolcow without being clocked. You are hideous, I have never seen a normal woman dress like you. I can see your Parkinsons esque guyliner from here kek. The barrel chest. The austistic stance. Good god if i was this ugly I’d honestly just end it all
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Anyways. onto something else.
Female Paul Dano here thinks she's a femboy. And furry freaks are a dime a dozen but this one's in relationship with an autistic fakeboi who wants to fuck animal dick the handles are @fangciful and @biiedriver
She is a bit less interesting than her partner though both are also awful e begging grifters with low quality art.
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she's so close, poor girl.
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agps dont have a deluded sense of self challenge go
Funny how the only one woman is "into toxic
masculinity" lmao the TIF is probably threatened because in her backwards view the woman is more 'manly' than her
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Here's how misinformed tifs are on a topic they should know more about as it very much touches them. I saw the knee surgery being mentioned here before too and i also have no idea how that's something to compare this to
They just say the same things, they all do
"Changes from testosterone are totally reversible and minors haven't received non-reversible trans care" Are they just lying or do they really believe this blindly?
>>1688632>most recreational drugs have better safety profiles than hormones
This, isn't most of the medical transition process experimental? From puberty blockers to sex change surgery? Isn't there a part of the treatment literally used to chemically castrate pedophiles? I wonder what TRAs have to say about that. How the fuck is experimenting on children for profit ethical in any way?>>1688626
Young TIFs fucking believe that their breasts can grow back after they chop them off, so this doesn't surprise me in the slightest>there's peer reviewed research that disproves your claim>a lot of the opposite is happening look at my studies
Doubt. Aren't most of those studies actually not
peer reviewed? Let alone funded by pro-trans orgs and pharma companies.
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Absolutely kekking at this TIF.
Why are they so fucking delusional?
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I almost feel bad for her. Girl, your can date your dream bf and be yourself without pretending to be a man. Ironically enough, troon ideology and porn are the main causes of the lack of cute long hair men these days so why are you even supporting it in the first place if your ultimate goal is to date one of them?
I don't get it. Why breaking bad? Seems like it would be way too problematic
for these types. Doesn't this uwu softboi make some heil hitler joke? I'm surprised they're all into this. The og picture makes no sense, she can clearly see the tit scars but still feels the need to ask? The kangaroo is what tips her off? Whatever.>>1688626
Very strange. Would love to see her explain how mastectomies or voice changes are totes reversible. Irreversible changes are the whole reason tavistock is closing down. Why do they just lie?
Your cute metalhead bf is dating big titty goth gf, stupid poon. As for wymym born wymym lesbians, the ones who like straight women like normal feminine ones, not fat fujos. Take a look at lchat sometimes and humble yourself.
Your only options are """"womym"""" fugly metalhead gf (whom you curiously didn't include in the icky wahmen category) and reddit soyjaks who will settle for you only because they know there's absolutely nothing a becky like you wouldn't do sexually.
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Just saw this random twitter post. This girl (call herself a boy and says she wants to be a malewife) really "came out of the closet" to her asexual ""brother"" because she said she's attracted to men. The mental gymnastics these people go through just to call themselves gay.
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found on Amino, do TIFs really think being NLOG makes them a tranny?
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Boyfriends was invented by an Asian TIF iirc and two of the four characters are also TIFs, and Heartstopper was invented by a British girl who thinks she invented wholesome BL, they both seem like shit but one author is definitely more consistent and less retarded than the other imo. And lol, gay men and bi men absolutely treat tops and bottoms as specific categories irl, many of them online talk about it either to make jokes or to say it's retarded but it's not a concept invented by women at all.
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its 2022, nobody cares if you're not acting "feminine", hell unfeminine women arent even being labelled "tomboys" anymore since most people who are western city folks arent even gender conforming anymore.
choosing to identify with something that will make you feel special/better/not like than the rest of the girls is peak NLOGgery. therefore NB/TIFs are NLOGs.
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It's so obvious these girls are uncomfortable with female objectification and degradation, and yet are desperate to give society what it wants (female objectification and degradation), so they pull these insane mental gymnastics about how it's a "he/they pussy, not woman pussy."
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its a fujo trend I notice, where they feminize the uke so much that their women in all but name, like what even is the point then,
There's no "other woman" for them to feel jealous of. Ever wonder why fujos are so hateful towards any female character in the show they're shipping in? They're into BL because they want to fuck the character they're shipping but feel insecure about even thinking about fictional women with their husbandos. Having gay ships with an extremely feminized uke is a way for them to project their fantasies without feeling inferior and still feel valid
because they're not making a self insert/Mary sue. It's a weird mental game where they must be taken VERY seriously in the fandom they're in and people need to validate their ship in order for them to feel justified with their projections onto the characters so they can't straight up admit they THEMSELVES want to bone the handsome anime men so they funnel all that psycho energy into making their BL ships as close to their own fantasies. It's also why a lot of fujos troon out. Massive "not like other girls" syndrome meets an inferiority complex and an extereme need to be valid
/feel superior in their circle of peers.
"forced to date women"
no one is dating you
well she passes in one thing and thats having the same entitlement as moids.
You just know she is hideous, but feels entitled to hot alt-men who are a rarity in itself too.
nta, but almost every woman is expected to wear make up, have long hair, or if it's short it has to be a feminine pixie cut, outside of farming communities. Most young women in big cities get eyelash extensions, lip injections, get their nails done, many get breast implants or bbl's or a nose job. In my culture only women who have become mothers and are above 35 are allowed to have short (but still feminine) hair, not wear make up and dress practical. The young women in farming communities all keep their hair as long as possible, butt length isn't atypical, because the bible says so. Though they won't do the drag tier make-up of the big city and dress plainer.
I don't think it's direct self-insertion the way it is with yumes. There's still the distance that comes from the character being a male, even if it's the kind of male whose POV even girly girls can understand. So you can have things like rape and abuse fantasies with the uke without it ever hitting too close to home. I think contributing factor is also the fact that many fujos can't even imagine what non-heteronormative romance is supposed to look like. I hear it's sometimes similar with yuri pairings (which I admittedly know nothing about).
Fakeboys are their own brand of fujo tho, for them it's absolutely "I'm the uke know", sort of a blend of fujo and yume tendencies.
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seems to the look most TIFs try to emulate IRL as well, like their so uncomfortable with their femininity they'd rather pretend to be "femboys"
Nta and I agree tbh. When I was a dumb kid and thought maybe I wanted to be a boy it had a lot to do with wanting to be seen as men's equal and not be seen as a sex object due to trauma I experienced at the hands of men as a child. Luckily I grew up and had enough sense to realize I had internalized misogyny due to my upbringing and that men were the source of the problem, not me being female.
The internet, and especially places like 4chan, tumblr, and now twitter have done so much harm in shaping these women too.
Not too bad of a definition when the alternative is "pants and buzzcut" vs "skirt and makeup".
Ask yourself if there really is anything particularly nonconforming about butch women and fem gay men. You still have a caring, empathetic woman who dresses comfortably and a typically entitled, loud, often predatory man who slathers his face in glittery clown paint. What exactly is out of the norm here?
nice strawman just because the examples used is the most common form of GNC in the west doesnt mean its the only gender roles that isnt being followed anymore
also the fact that you can openly be lesbian/gay and barely anyone cares anymore except for boomers and bible thumpers/religious nutjobs further proves that GNC is accepted and is the norm
Anybody heard about Evan, the TIF starbucks barista who broke down in a storeroom at starbucks, because there was a rush? lol. She's also a union organizer, lol.
Anons this video is comedy gold. There is much entitlement and zoomer bs in here. I'm not going to spoil it. Just watch, it's like 2 minutes, and don't read the article until you've watched the vid.
The only article I could find about this was on redstate, so I've included because they have screenshots of some tweets she made after twitter came after her. she's locked her twitter now. (And I tried to upload the video to burner account on reddit for easy sharing and it was automatically removed. Which is interesting.)
Video Evan posted to Twitter https://rumble.com/v1qnvem-trans-starbucks-employee-cant-handle-8-hour-work-day-breaks-down-in-tears.html
Trans-Identifying Biological Woman Cries About Having To Work 8 Hours At Starbucks articlehttp://archive.today/z9xyc(not milk, same self-poster from mtf thread)
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This fella turned up in my for you page, at first glance I thought it was a dude but something seemed off. Scrolled some and realized it’s a ftm with seemingly very loving parents with endless amount of money for plastic surgery. Also using trans status for clout and promoting their shitty music.https://instagram.com/aaron.deaguiar?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
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like I just don't understand
people can't stop you from doing whatever the f u want w your time, money & body lol
a lot of pressure to conform to constructs comes from being influenced by ads/other makeup/fashion addicts (a.k.a influencers or the kewl kids)
though I suppose there are a lot of women who try to avoid negative attention and/or who try to fit in with their social circle or something but you can also just choose to not give a fuck.
there's a burgeoning zero waste subculture out there that make some very compelling anti-consumption arguments.
I've not really "shopped" for clothes in almost a decade because I just don't see the point of being desperate for other people's approval anymore. Buying a few durable, comfortable pieces of clothing is good enough.
Autism diagnosis in girls really started happening in the early 2000s. It's likely some zoomer TiFs had early diagnosises like boys their age. Self-diagnosis in it of itself is also more common lately, Male or Female, not withstanding.>>1689981>"I feel like internet usage and the people you are surrounded by increase the chance of trooning out, too."
Agreed. Social media was said to be shit to girls in the 2010s and it's still the case. Seriously, many teenage girls are incredibly GNC compared to the overly-makeuped, robotically posing abominations seen on TikTok and Instagram. On YouTube and the like the gender ratio of people you watch if you're not into makeup or toys is bleak. Any women you do see are caked in makeup and never do voice over. Makeup itself isn't terrible or uncommon for YouTube but it makes GNC girls feel unwelcomed and unable to succeed if that's all they see it on every woman they happen to watch.
do you have any screen shots of her terf
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female to neckbeard local to me. munchie to the nth degree and "wheelchair-bound". loves to have surgeries and recently had her womb removed. only ever whines, about everything and everyone : rubes not wearing masks, doctors not catering to her every whim, people side-eyeing her for being an unpleasant obese waste of a person, buildings for not fully accomodating her, her parents encouraging her not to waste her life.
apartment full of rabbit droppings and garbage, permanent twitter presence and full-on miserable joyless life.
she used to be an awkward furry teenager, that's what the internet does to ugly duckling girls nowadays.
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also has a DID larp with various pronouns for her alters, all of which are furries/animals. One of them is named Little Eagle, and while idc about cultural appropriation, this reads like a parody of a native american name and it's way cringe, especially when you remember she's the middlest-class non-anglophone small town hick. Juniper and Heather as well- nobody is named that way here, so those are probably named after characters from cartoons or whatever.
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all of this in a few years. she was groomed by twitter
They hate being female. They have absolutely no problem with femininity, even more if they larp as men. Did you all miss the time when every women was supposed to praise men for poorly applying eyeliner? They think women are submissive by nature, so if they aren't, they aren't women. They sexualise themselves but see it the same way men see it, domination over women. >>1690755
People like that are fucked by the mindset that every feelings is valide and has a deep meaning. She doesn't feel like shit because her health is trash but because it's her mind and she "can't" do anything if her mind is ill. I feel sorry for her.
>>1690755>and recently had her womb removed
Isn't that dangerous since women still need our wombs outside of babymaking? If it's real, why would you even do that, you can't even see
it. Actual brainrot and doctors are using these mentally ill people as guinea pigs>>1690776
Fuck thats sad. What a drastic change, she really went full fedora tipping discord mod. At least she passes, I guess.
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She is literally so close to getting it it hurts
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it is, it increases your chance of having a vaginal prolapse and very likely fucks with your hormones.
she had it removed for munchie reasons, i found this.>fucking uterus cramps right now.>even with painkillers no dice, i feel like breaking everything>calling the surgeon tomorrow for an hysterectomy.
note, she recently tweeted about not feeling the morphine anymore that her doctor prescribes her for her more or less imagined, more or less self-induced chronic pain.>>1691202
i think we're getting there.
So gender dysphoria went from being uncomfortable in your sex characteristics to…being uncomfortable with gendered expectations
I swear this makes me see red it’s such bullshit
Maybe we'll come full circle and everyone will concede that 100% of humans are uncomfortable with some
part of gendered expectations. If we all have dysphoria then none of us have it.
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Clockable because of her handmaiden behavior of asking first
>>1691552>Many of the og finnish tif activists have become less active in social media.
I've seen that happen even to the younger ones, at least on twitter. Might also have something to do with the fact that they get posted to suomillanka and they know it kek.
Otherwise they're pushing self-id like no tomorrow here, probably because the next government will likely be more right wing and will not accept the current proposal.
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Can someone translate this word salad for me
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every word of of that headline aboustetly destroyed me, juliet is jew-liet
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There is a fakeboi in the new show on netflix Wendell and wild. Didn’t know why I was so surprised since it was a Netflix show but it sucks that we can’t have plane ass tomboy characters anymore.
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Don't want to compliment her but she reminds me of this husbando by KaneoyaSachiko
She would look better if she was an actual man
I doubt any scrote would draw riddlebat in the first place, but also what >>1692751
anon said, and somehow the characters tend to be softer in a way and more female gazey by default.
I feel like males usually draw women absolutely the same and almost always hyperfeminine (even if the girl character is not sexualized), even when they try to draw a GNC woman, scrotes always will draw her with an hourglass-shaped body and a pixie cut.
Fakebois draw women more diverse and they are capable of drawing actually masculine women.
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Sorry for gross art and Off Topic (she is not a tif), but this art is obviously made by a girl and i can't explain why it's obvious. Maybe because it's not sexual? Even when tifs draw fetish porn it's different, like it's clearly not only about coom for them.
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How can you make a video like that but go by all pronouns
>>1692805>Have you actually looked at how he draws naked women?
NTA but I have - there's plenty of female coomer artists on Twitter who draw similar shit to appeal to a male audience. A ton of hentai artists in Japan are women and draw much more degenerate and male-gazey shit. There's also extremely pornsick women who are into gross stuff like loli, gore or incest, some of them are well-known TIFs. So Lacryboy
(typical TIF username) drawing women like that is not proof that she's male. If she's really as bad at drawing women as you say, doesn't that kinda prove that she's more interested in drawing men (as proven by her Riddlebat obsession)?
Also, most of her OCs are cute yaoi boys, even the ones she made years ago that don't exist anymore, did she make those because of her girlfriend too? kek
I guess it doesn’t much matter it’s just I never seen one before so idk how to act. I don’t have anything against him personally and I am not big on hating tifs since I’m just a misandrist terf
and would only have an outright problem with a tim. The only thing I’m really worried about is if he is one and gets offended by something I do and it ruins my relationship with my friend, or he tries to cancel me online or something lol. The only experience I’ve ever had with a tif was another friend dealing with an unhinged fujo fakeboi with autism who stalks her and tries to get her lambasted by wokies and lose her job.
I guess I’m afraid of tifs the same way I’m afraid of any other neurodivergent terminally online woman. If (he) just wants to dress like a man and call (himself) a man I don’t care, as long as he doesn’t have an episode that effects me or the people I care about.
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Well that’s something
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"Ugly anti-sex abomination"
Nonna please elaborate anti-coom art sounds kinda based tbh
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you never see anyone say this the other way round lmao, imagine being this much of a handmaiden
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Sorry about the poor collage but this is a minecraft streamer, the post about "passing" is confusing because she is very clearly female with a female voice lol
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That's not kikomi, this is
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is it a reimagination of this uber-famous painting that was on the "most popular of all time" page for years and years ?
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this one is just for fun since she made fun of troons just to became one
Uhhh, no milk as far as I can see. She's at peace with being a lesbian, and doesn't seem like a handmaiden whatsoever. Do you just… not like her as a person? That's not what this thread is for nonnie
, lol. Sage cause this is a nothingburger
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>>1693313>So far removed from reality
I wish she would read Andrea Dworkin so she can see what radical feminism is about. (against rape and patriarchy duh)
These retard women think terf
= conservative so they think terfs are like con men and pickme women and refuse to acknowledge that terf
is just the new word for feminazi because if they do acknowledge that then they have to cope with the truth that they support rapist incel men in dresses. It’s why most troons and supporters have personality disorders.
i'm not even sure actual tradcon women want gnc women to be tradwives, i think they just want to sneer and feel superior in the worst of cases.
man does the internet and its buzzwords stunt your growth and your thinking
Why are trans men so pretty and graceful and trans women are actual sewerage rays?
Trans men are women and trans women are men! Hope this helps /s
Seriously. she sounds based and it’s definitely weird gendie vendetta posting. the original post was trying so hard to sound like a lolcow poster. “she posts her barely developed tits trying to be a boy” but what does that even mean? why would we ever use that as a point of ridicule over her? and then the TERF
she is buffer and more handsome than you pooner, seethe.
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How do you get this deep into internalized misogyny when people are trying to help you and raise important points about situations like the one you suffered from? I’m sure she feels hurt and betrayed but she’s directing her anger at the wrong people. Dropped my link the first time https://archive.ph/sY26Y
>>1693630>Muh choke on dick
Trancel moment. It's okay, you'll own the terfs by literally decomposing from Lupron very soon. Make sure to save face by gritting your teeth through it and continuing to mumble something about raping terfs as you cope with the fact that they were right all along. It's sad, but if anyone will be choking on dick it'll be you, when your parents dump you in a home to rot away.
And don't you fucking dare change your tune and try to ride terf
coattails at any point - no refunds.>>1693672
Yes, you should. Terfs should focus on laughing/gloating at these shitfreaks while maintaining an exclusive club mentality instead of spearheading thankless awareness campaigns for the literally and deliberately retarded. I don't care that pooners went there due to muh sojiny, pickmes will never learn until they pay the ball fondling toll - and maybe not even then. The best way to "save" young retarded lesbians from doing this to themselves as children is having a sideshow of wheelchair bound lupron freaks paraded around in a decade or so, labeled "this is your future".
>>1693313>JKR, literally the most notorious terf on the internet: you can dress however you want, your sex is not changeable though, don't let restrictive gender roles define your entire life
gendies: TERFS WANT WOMEN TO BECOME SUBMISSIVE VICTORIAN HOUSEWIFES!!!>>1693349>Is this her subconscious speaking or something?
Pretty much. A lot of detransitioning tifs will do a full 180 and become the ones to turn into conservative anti-feminist hyperfeminine tradwives (or at least larp as that online). Projection.
There are probably creepy scrotes who want to turn tifs into submissive tradwifes by rape, probably wont care if it is a tif or terf
butch lesbian. Men also are the ones beating up and killing tims, dating gaydens and enbies for easy pussy and misgendering them at their face, generally treating anyone gnc looking like shit. And they are always mad and wishing violence at terfs (=women), is it misogyny or are they retarded and think terf
just means anyone opposing trans people?
First off, I look at their other art to find out about their preferences and art style consistency across all their artworks. Second, the framing, angles, etc. Moids who draw porn focus more on drawing very sexually explicit and vulgar angles that emphasize the tits, genitals, collarbones, thighs, butt, etc., as well as putting excessive detail on these parts, with female character faces being almost secondary to the tits. Also, men don't draw a lot of straight NSFW art that shows both of the people in the picture, they prefer to draw POV or semi-POV shots, or hiding the male's face as much as possible (the way they draw males is also a huge hint). Meanwhile, women tend to draw boobs like just another part of the body, without drawing as much attention to them, and focus more on the whole body and pose than on individual, exaggerated body parts, without so many crazy, impossible or fetishistic angles. They try to portray female body parts realistically. You could say that female artists tend to draw women more like people instead of just sex objects. Women also draw female characters with less child-like proportions (big head on tiny body, tiny soft hands, massive eyes and small mouth and nose area…), generally speaking. When women draw a man and a woman fucking, they usually only hide the male's face, draw male POV, or draw him as unattractive/plain as possible on request only.
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Lmao not really milk but here is something from they/them tiktok girl hell. I can’t rn.
To get validation from poc
I guess? A lot of people do that shit on TikTok.
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if you want to be lumped in with abusers and rapists so badly..
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They really are like slowmotion trainwrecks, usually starting out as pretty normal, maybe a bit depressed but still clearly able to be passionate about their interests and do creative stuff, but as the troon psychosis deepens they deteriorate, starting to make content only about troonism, then becoming too depressed to post at all. The endgame is either 41% or detransition, obviously. The way this downward spiral gets repeated with each tif never ceases to fascinate me.
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The video is basically a gnc arab woman saying womanhood >>>>> and this she/they left this comment that is clearly inspired from that one tumblr post about how transwomen make womanhood look nice.
The majority doesn't want phallo and not all of them are misogynist straights. Many transitioned due to trauma and only want to be seen as a man by society, because it makes them feel safer, but don't mind being seen as a woman in private by other women. That wasn't even what I was talking about, my point again was that the terf
hating is performative, because it's required in trans spaces, especially of TiFs because they are looked at with suspicion by TiMs. A lot of them would have no trouble with their friends or family being oh so dreaded terfs, but they can't exactly admit that publicly. Whenever they question anything in trans spaces, they first have to shit on terfs to get people off their back about it, other wise they are the ones getting accused of being terfs. Or they get banned by one of the TiM mods. It's not always a form of externalized self loathing, probably in the majority of cases it isn't. It's something they have to put in their posts like you'd put 'kind regards' at the end of every email and I think too much stock is put into it.
sorry for spoonfeeding but i really want to know what's so good about womanhood Tumbleretards can say
Also, i have never seen this gnc Arab woman but i would die for her
I hate this shit. This isn’t directed at you nonnie
, just the women who think like that. Men who’ve never had to deal with the oppression that comes with living in a female body do not get to speak about “womanhood”. There IS joy to be found in womanhood, but you don’t have to listen to a man talking about “euphoria boners” to find it. Look to your fellow women, find sisterhood and bonding, appreciate what your body is capable of and for how it’s unique. Men are the root of female suffering, I’m not about to listen to an oppressor tell me how good it is to be oppressed.
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Another nonbinary pedopandering nlog, probably a whore (18+ on the profile info). Why do so many genderspecials want to shit in diapers so bad?
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>looks like a 40 years old alcoholic
>Thinks she's a uwu kawaii loli
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It’s fascinating what exactly is masculine or male in you?
I doubt most of them are that self-aware or faking their support for tranny ideology considering how many go through double mastectomies. Last night I went down a rabbit hole of old fandom blogs by women, from about 2006 to 2013, and most of them were already buying into gender theory back then, being inclusive of trans-identifying people and dumbass sexualities like pansexual and omnisexual. They were clearly well-intentioned and truly believed what they said (they wouldn't have faced backlash for not including troons), and I think that's the foundation of today's female-dominated online communities that are full of TIFs and most of them probably do believe all or most of this bullshit. But still, if I am right about this, I hope more of them start to peak, become self-aware and stop believing in trans nonsense.
Also insecure teenage girls can be manipulated easily by a cult like the tranny cult, and taught to really hate TERFs, though obviously not as violently as TIMs, so maybe most TIFs do think TERFs are bad people for invalidating trans identities and for calling TIMs fetishists and predators even if they don't show a burning hatred for TERFs.
But I truly hope you're right. After all, I've seen a lot of infighting between TIMs and TIFs that is basically the same as blaming women or men but instead of saying that, they say AFAB and AMAB, so I wouldn't be surprised if at least some
of them were self-aware and faking their beliefs.
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Seriously so masculine im aware that masculine and feminine are such bs concepts but people like op stress so much over how society views them and they want to be treated according to the masculine idea of society
There are already so many fakebois who shit on anyone making blanket statements about how men have been historically abusive
to women. They wouldn’t excuse that same thing with any other group that’s been hurt by another group, but for some reason it’s both important that they get lumped in with real men and also that male positivity is celebrated more than women’s experiences are listened to.