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This thread is for posting and discussing cringey fakebois who may or may not deserve their own threads.
Fakebois are girls who pretend to be boys for attention, either as trannies or biological males (usually the former).
Fakebois style and present themselves as androgynous or feminine-looking young men, even wearing girls' clothing and make-up. They insist on being addressed with he/him (or occasionally they/them) pronouns and take great offense at being gendered as female. Some are SJW transactivists, but for most their identities are entirely superficial.
Reminder to "truescums" and "transmeds": Nobody cares about how [[[100% REAL]]] your or any other tranny's ~dysphoria~ is. Don't derail about how you're actually a true troon unlike everyone else, save it for your twitter feed.
It's in the last thread towards the end. It's "antidotefortheawkward-art" on Tumblr.
Also nitpick but it's typically spelled Taoism, not "Daoism" (even though the latter is how it's pronounced.) She's not strictly wrong about Guanyin being genderless, but historians typically describe the deity as such because there are some regions and periods of time where she is depicted as male. But that more has to do with the natural shifts in cults ("cult" in the historical sense) over time. There are also Greek and Egyptian deities who were interpreted as different genders, or even different people.
Calling Guanyin non-binary is just being willfully ignorant about how religions, particularly ones as old as Buddhism, work historically. It also smacks of the noble savage trope, implying that binary gender was invented by the evil colonialist powers or whatever.
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I’m sorry but if I ever leave the house dressed like this I hope someone shoots me.
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I like how they always look more dead inside after in these videos.
About breast amputation:
"Mastectochism: The Platonic Ideal of Self Hate"
NTA But it's okay nonnie
, I agree. The only reason I'm offput by her is because she's genderfucked. I love a good butch, but not if she's got so much internalized misogyny and lesbophobia that she thinks her butchness makes her a man or a "non-woman". Of course, this is if she's HSTS at all. Otherwise who cares, she's an AAP coomer.
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love how all the fakeboys that make these edgy over the top "misgender me and i'll cut u" threats end up being about 5'2" and built like shrimp
it's because in the after they've already gone through some transition and realized it doesn't solve any of their problems, but they can't just go back to being evil cissies/detransition because their entire online echo chamber that groomed them into transing out wouldn't approve. said echo chamber is also their safety net that offers constant validation so they much rather stay trans and unhappy instead of dealing with their actual problems.
also re: video, it's a shame because she looks nice with the buzzcut. too bad she's fucked in the head.
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Loving that Pee Wee Herman drip. Why is it FTMs are allergic to tailors though? I get all my suits tailored and I look much better for it. It's like they actually enjoy looking like picrel.
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I'm saying this as someone on the spectrum, autists should not be allowed on the Internet
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Found this in the wild on moidchan
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Pieces of media with a cast of edgy larger than life characters with crazy designs, that lend themselves to OC creation by having an explicit set of simple, autistic design rules, always attract the kinds of people who desperately want to be their OC because they don't like themselves or lack a sense of self. Obviously this has a big crossover with theatre kids, autistic people, BPD-chans, terminally online people, the severely mentally ill and troons.
Incidentally, this is why the danganronpa fandom was suddenly full of insane DID aidens as soon as homestuck ended- they all migrated.
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OT, but James gets married to Jesse, Pokémon feels like the kind of story that doesn’t really try to make their characters reach some sort of conclusion for the sake of money. I wouldn’t be surprised if there were to appear some qwerty representation in the future.
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@beevanian formerly @frankievanian got her boobs lopped of and started claiming trans without hormones, now back to they/them, and not even trying to hide her womanhood. Mostly feel bad for her kid, who I will obviously not post here. Just weird. She’s popular on IG and tiktok but then her Twitter is straight porn
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I was like “oh wow cool Lisa cosplay” then the bio said he/him!!! Like can we be done with this timeline already for fucks sake he / him yeah not with those milkbags bitch
This is what riles me up the most about terminally online TIMs and TIFs. They talk big games about how they’re oh so tough but they can’t even take the mildest of heat without bursting into tears. One minute they’re reblogging posts about knifing TERFs and knocking out transphobes teeth, the next they’re suicide baiting and posting a link to their gofundme because the old lady at GoodWill called them “miss” instead of “sir” and they’re so traumatised that they need to take three days off work to recover.
If you’re going to make a whole reddit post begging for sympathy because someone said something sarcastic to you from the other side of a fucking screen, don’t even bother transitioning.
Homegirl is annoying just for being an NLOG they/them and ticking all the prototypical fakeboi boxes, even the Garfield one (what is it about mtfs and that character?). Everyone in the comments of her videos runs around correcting pronouns for her which is always a laugh.>>1369548
I hate when people spew this misogynistic garbage about things meant for little girls. Cant they have one
thing they don't have to relinquish to males (gnc or not) and attention-starved thembies?
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>>1369848>even the Garfield one (what is it about mtfs and that character?)
OT but with Garfield, what happened was that Garfield became popular "ironically" among the online leftist memesphere a couple years back, basically the whole thing started out as a joke about how unfunny and generic Garfield is as a comic character but after a while it stopped being meta and they just stuck using him for their memes and then also started buying Garfield merch
People in those kind of spheres are terrified of making an off-colour joke and getting turbo-cancelled, so instead of jokes they make meaningless absurdist meme pseudo-jokes about the most inoffensive things possible (e.g. Garfield) and pretend to find them funny.
Then you get weirdos like quintonreviews who are so terrified of being engaged with intellectually as one adult to another that they base their entire persona around putting way too much effort into these kinds of bland abusurdist memes about family media, interspersed with uncomfortable monologues about how pathetic his life is so you feel sorry for him.
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Honestly he's a waste of good genetics, he's 6'7 and seems to have a decent enough looking face
he could be fairly attractive dude if he just stopped being a fatty but instead this is his existence
MTF and TIM are referring to males trying to be female, and FTM and TIF refer to females trying to be males.>>1370000
You have to be some level of crazy or narcissistic to try to develop a game more complicated than a small walking SIM by yourself, and openly market it to an audience before completion.
Dont know if vidrel works with ig links so forgive me if it doesnt - but does anybody need very masculine and very valid
poopstache grooming tips
My sister was the one who introduced me to og homestuck, and I actually ended up reading it with her until the end. She always loved it more than me though, and grew up into a full on far-left sjw mindset, yet also has no interest in the sequels/epilogues/whatever because of how ridiculous they became. Shit makes me sad because I still look back on the og comic fondly (though I was way too young to be reading it), and if they had handled the sequel stuff better instead of letting it fall into tranny hands it could’ve been a good way for them to capitalize on nostalgia. It was a huge part of a lot of people’s lives. I wish they had just let hs die instead of what they ended up doing to it.
For some reason I’ve seen a lot of millennial/older gen z fakebois cite Dave Strider as their “trans awakening” or whatever, which makes me die a little inside.
This was exactly what I was going to say to that anon, lmao. Dave is the exact sort of character TIFs like to skinwalk, which is to say the kind average nerdy girls develop crushes on. He's masculine but in a dorky, non-threatening way, and he has a sad backstory about being abused/neglected. He's also bisexual, which draws fujoshis to him like flies to shit.
There's little difference between "Tumblr sexymen" and characters Aidens view as their transition goals. They don't want to be actual men– hairy, dirty psychopaths motivated mainly by putting their penises in things– they want to be ~soft~ GNC anime boys.
Fujo TIFs target the Striders in general, there are many cases of het ones claiming Dirk as 'transmasc' and so on and so forth. The funny thing is one of the biggest fans of this delusional headcanon insists that Dave isn't
transcoded (whatever that means). It is interesting to see the schisms in their tranny headcanons, I wish they openly fought with each other more.
Sage for OT but
Every female friend similar in age to me played this while I don’t think a single boy has ever heard of it.
It just annoys me how they have to gender preface everything even if girls were the only people playing these flash games.
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I wrote decent as him having not a particularly ugly or deformed face, its an "alight" face
If he wasn't fat with his height could be somewhat handsome, cause the biggest problem with tall dudes is they often have weird disproportionate features which makes them look "odd"
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NTA, but the super wide set eyes and naturally downturned mouth just combine with the fat in an unfortunate way that makes him look like blobby the exploded blobfish. He'd look quite nice if he pulled a Jay Bauman.
It's like a breadtube thread in here.
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The netflix live action cowboy bebop cast a fakeboi as Gren, who in the original series is a man (male) with gynecomastia from abusing drugs (sounds weird but it's apparently a thing IRL). She also got cast as Desire in the new netflix Sandman, a character who can change their sex characteristics at will (and is supposed to be super hot kek), despite having never been in anything notable before.
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I hope netflix does a new adaptation of Fight Club and casts a fakeboi as bitch tits bob.
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Why'd Mae Martin have to be a tif? She's so adorbs.
Quickly browsing her twitter gave me faildaughter vibes.
I guess the main tactic these days for "gaining" a personality and salvaging your career is to join the kweers.>>1370540
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crazy bitch eyes
she's a cute butch lady though
Oh wow, oof
. That's hilarious and will age poorly.
Approximately 38% of adults in the United States sought out recovery for drug addiction, so representation of potential side effects like >>1370532
noted is valuable. It is also worth noting that roughly 35% of men experience gynecomastia, in total. Compare those to 3% of trans-identifying people in the US, which I could have sworn was 2% not that long ago, and less than 1% shortly before that (social contagion is real). Trans is a disease that spreads the more you talk about it, whereas addiction is a disease that becomes less prevalent if spoken about honestly, and gynecomastia is a disease that will exist at the same rates whether it's spoken about or not. This change shouldn't have been made, and I feel that men with gynecomastia (and possibly intersex men) will be offended by the show comparing their health condition with troonery.
I mean that's true and untrue, gynecomastia has highest rates in the middle east and south asia
a consequence of extremely high gluten diet of these regions, lack of exercise and they don't grow boobs or anything but about a quarter of the men here have puffy nippels
source live in the region and I've seen it with tons of guys
Riley? Riley is a fakeboi herself and a nasty piece of work from early tumblr who would dox black teens for telling her to stop being such a hateful asshole, before that she was a bane of weeb RP circles on lj in the mid-00s and would do shit like harass minors into rping yaoi shotacon rape.
Surprised to see people trying to stan Riley here, I thought people were still generally aware that she's a piece of shit.
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Wow, amazing similarity.
Casting a random troon in this role for the sake of woke points will just bite them in the ass. People won't be impressed - real life isn't like twitter.
Gren is specifically a gay man who developed gynecomastia after being forced to endure experimental drug trials after being framed for war crimes. They turned a canonically gay male character that's just a victim
of human rights abuses in a dystopian setting into an NLOG genderspecial girl
Something something erasure something
nta, and I haven't watched the anime but after reading his struggles it sucks it's being downgrade to a fakeboi playing dress up…
i bet they'd erase his entire identity and character and replace it with something transgender-align. because they easily can. because despite how cherished cowboy bepop is, i'm sure there's only a few who have watched it these days than the amount of people praising it as a classic.
im sure we will see more adaptations like this tbh. i already thought of sailor moon for some reason, idk. I can see it having either one of the girls being a man playing dress up.
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Pretty sure the actor is male. The face, the voice, all the childhood photos available on the internet, everything points to man, but do correct me if I'm wrong
I think you're right, looks like a feminine gay man.
There are topless pics of him and I don't see any scars.
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Definitely male, but the particular photo used did look kind of TIF-like. It's funny, that even with all the obfuscation (scrunched up face, tilted away from camera, posing to make himself smaller, far away), he can only pass as an Aiden with a particularly male jawline. But literally any other picture of him makes it obvious. Picrel, he's much clearer here. Maybe original anon just got confused because the indistinct picture, NB status (instead of TIM), and fakeboi haircut, so I don't think it was a tranny psyop this time.
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i absolutely guarantee none of this happened. kids do not care about your pronouns. a ten year old boy is not gonna apologize bc he dared to misgender you.
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No offense, but are you both legally blind. You know people can shop out titty scars? There's also a kind of surgery where they go through the nipple so there aren't any scars.
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Also, Kalvin Garrah sometimes gives herself the illusion of a jawline by sucking in her cheeks + jutting her jaw out + photoshop. Does that make her male?
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Its possible he's a male with some serious Hormone deficiency
Picrel is Andy Milonakis he is a 45 year old man with Hormone deficiencies
his body basically produces no testosterone or growth hormones and so he looks like this
Yeah I literally know and fucked
a TIF who had this and she passes phenomenally well. Legitimately thought she was a gay man, looks more like one than this person. Very very possible it’s a woman, but if the baby picture is real there’s no point speculating.
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This is not a man lmao. The delusions
I mean I guess she succeeded at looking NB, since the reaction here is confused and upset. That doesn't change her chromosomes or medical needs, though.>>1371911
Kek is that her? I guess it's true that troons can only pass as masculine older women and feminine teenage boys when they're not seen with actual women or men.
More like genderspecials or chronically online anons being "confused".>>1371987>Regardless, Mason is a talented person
Are you a fan or something? Literally no one knew who she was.
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Ah yes the 2 Genders, Blonde bimbo Stacy or Emo boy who looks like he hasn't slept in days
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Found this genderspecial tif’s account which is full of this kinda shit. Worth to look at if you want some good laughs
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This is her explanation
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Her explanations are truly great
what did the straight men say?>>1372450
mspec is "multi-gender attraction spectrum" ig
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When are these people gonna stop using intersex people for their validation?
I actually an Intersex woman, though she was XY she was still 100% woman, there were no TIM characteristic or interests were about her, she still suffered though due to her condition
It sucks that Intersex people gets used by these narcissists for their selfish self justifications
island twitter an intersex man recently got his business effectively shut down by TRAs bc he was gencrit:(((
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Fair enough. I called them genderspecials or chronically online because this whole trans fantasy is shattered whenever you interact with regular people IRL. Also, real men at Mason's age (mid 20s) wouldn't look like teenage boys. It's like people forget that healthy men still age like shit.>inb4 hormone deficiency or some autosomal/genetic crap
Men with those issues tend to fat/pudgy and they still age (slowly, but they do). Andy Milionakis and Gary Coleman in their 20s looked like prepubescent children.
Btw, Kalvin takes T inconsistently because picrel. TIMs can gorge on E2V and the worst that could happen is an unstable mood (that's why they're always suicide baiting or thinking that literally everyone is out to kill them), while TIFs on any form of testosterone will be all messed up.
Original ayrt who shared the childhood pic. I was confused just because she looks a lot like a flamboyant gay guy I went to university with and I hadn't realized how much T can change a person's voice (I've never interacted with a TIF IRL and I never watch them on YouTube). Also as >>1372129
said, there are quite a few childhood photos of Mason looking like a boy.
In terms of talent, I had never heard of Mason before but in looking for a video of her speaking voice I ended up seeing stage performance videos. I'm not a theater person, but she seemed good. I like what >>1371993
anon said, though, that being a visible gnc person who identifies with their own sex would be so much more powerful than being a gender special.
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i have a friend who's a practicing buddhist who recently explained this to me too bc i was curious. the deities in buddhism are not "nonbinary" they are just beyond gender and will choose to call themselves male or female, but they're really "nothing". except it's not "nonbinary". they aren't human. such a reach lol
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Tell me you're a fujo gay LARPer without telling me you're a fujo gay LARPer
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These three troons found JK Rowling's house and took photos outside it, doxxing her address.
>don't be a cissy
wtf even is this message.
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I don't think they expected JKR to stop being "a cissy", but I think they wanted internet points since it's popular to harass this woman. It backfired, JKR tweeted about it and now they have all hidden their profiles.https://twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1462758324177444870
lol I really hope JK gets her lawyers together to get these people a restraining order. It must be a nightmare to have these types fucking around with you all the time. >>1373772
I love how JK isn’t backing down. She shouldn’t. She’s not even wrong.
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same dumb black girl sperging in shock bc she was called the girl that she is…so desperate for attention it isn’t funny. “he/they” my fucking ass
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I knew that “both” genital SRS was increasingly common but I didn’t realise they had a name for it and think it’s an identity. Subreddit is heavily FTMS who want phallo but also to keep their vag.
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Love this response to the "activists"
>>1373841>She hasn't even tweeted (twittered?) anything about them in months.
She kept quiet and didn't wanna cause any further conflict, all she's been doing since her essay was promoting her new Children's book, an innocent Christmas adventure story that she was inspired to write by seeing her son and his pig plushies and yet rabid twitter trannies still replied with porn in those threads
I'm sure Rowling thought that ignoring was the best option and these retards would soon forget all about it but they didn't, they stalked her and went to her house
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Found a troon who watched interview with the vampire once and made it her whole personality. I'll let this photo speak for itself.
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Hannibal may be a viscous serial killer cambial but at least he's not a transphobe, said without a hint of irony
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Yeah I understood that, but I'd be willing to bet some of these "people" would be the types to stan actual serial killers
Oh my god what
I’m laughing bc what the actual hell, I stand corrected nona my bad
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imagine putting a fake silicone penis in your pants just to sit on an airplane. then being shocked when TSA has to make sure that foreign object isn’t dangerous. lmao just lmao.
She and her boyfriend are still in jail, waiting for the appeal to higher court. But they just got the denial in this week. So their life sentances (i think its 20 years in Sweden) are now final so they Will be transfered to a real prison soon. The girl was registered female when she was taken in by the police but is now legally a man. Good timing! We dont have any high security female prisons in Sweden anyway so in guessing she
Will be placed in a male prison for a few weeks, get what she deserves and then off herself or kindly send a new letter to the gender office to change back, maybe she can get a two in one deal and change her name to kikomi while shes at it
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She is my fav cow. Also deludes herself into being an "artist" (her skills and techniques are nonexistant - see pic related) and tries to sell shitty craft projects at inflated prices. One mental illness brings another it seems kek
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Gotta love when fakebois talk about their non existent dick to their simp base 🤌
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Pretty much, his name used to be Emilia. Putting up a picture previous in one of these treads.
He's trying very hard to upkeep his emo/anime fantasy guy look. After he went on T he got acne (which he has complained so much about and is a massive side effect to taking T), chin pubes and a deeper voice. Which is why he did a voice reveal so late after being recognised. Personally I wouldn't pay too much attention to fakebois like him, but he is making his followers pay for NSFW pics of a silicone body pretending its his own. if his followers knew he wasnt this big dick cis emo guy lol
They do, I guess she added the striped socks to show solidarity with male troons kek.>>1375334
I'm really interested in what's going to happen, this is the first time I've heard of a TIF who wants to be in a male prison.
It was outrageous how the murderer Kristoffer Johansson was moved to a lower security women's prison after trooning out.
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Seriously why do all of that shit for this ugly moid.>be a rational autistic woman>troon out>base your look on fashion icon Jeffrey dahmer>fall for mentally ill, paranoid and balding scrote>murder the man who financially supported you both>demand being placed in men's prison
Tough luck, one of the few perks of being a woman is the decreased chance of being victim
of a very unhinged gay scrote who comits horrible sexually charged crimes.
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Expectation vs reality
I’m mutuals with someone on Twitter who retweets from a user who does this. She always talks about “jerking off” and mentions her “balls”. I mean she’s also a ham planet so she might think her sagging fucking labia flaps are deflated balls :shrug emoji:
It's more about being a yaoi man than a gay man. Both straight and gay people constantly shit on bisexuals (especially bi women), and if you ever bring this up you get accused of thinking bisexuals are more oppressed than gay people (?) so a lot of bis end up internalising other people's dumb prejudice or getting very hair-trigger
about 'bad bisexuals' (those who embody one or more common negative stereotype about bi people) making other bis looks bad.
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This fakeboi Lachlan Watson (you may know her from the Netflix Sabrina show) is on the cover of this French magazine. Crossposted from the celebricows thread (1/5)
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This one is creepy. (2/5)
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This one is also creepy. (4/5)
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(5/5) Apparently this is her dancing shirtless in an elevator with some scrote before going to dinner with him
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new ellen page pic just dropped
my mental health is being challenged by the people lovebombing her for her disgusting new torso
she looks photoshopped, especially with the scars and the fake abs. She looks like she's working out her arms but it's still skinny for some reason.
Honestly, I won't be surprise the pic is heavily ps and they just put her face and scars on top of a man's body.(learn2sage)
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ah. such visible joy and gender euphoria
Learning about gnc women who understand that masculinity is a social construct helped immensely. I can finally feel great about being a buff lady who dress comfortably.>>1377791
She looks edited because her torso is uncanny as hell. It looks somewhat muscular but the rest of her body is skin and bones. It's impossible to gain muscles without gaining fat at that weight. I have bigger arms after working out six months and I'm not a rich hollywood star.
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I don't get why she chose ab sculpting when it ends up looking like random lumps of fat later on.
Picrel her real abs when she wasn't sickly thin.>>1377791
No shoop, imo. She didn't have a defined waist before, but combine that with surgeries + being underweight and she looks uncanny.
I've never read anything more true than this. Never stop writing nonnie
Every moids does this in their selfies but it shows how short her mid face is.(sage)
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Are you a straight 16 year old boy who has a genderspecial girlfriend and you're trying to be supportive while navigating your own sexuality? Well, r/mypartneristrans is here to tell you what a fucking monster you are
This cult of entitled retards changes its rules of engagement every 2 years or so. How the fuck a teenager is supposed to know ALL about this crazy shit?
The cultist on the right said the right thing at the end, though (break up with the NLOG and move on).
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Fucking sigh. The Sims fandom is so bad about this. it's chock full of autistic girls, AGPs and hatred/fetishism of girls and girlhood.
havent watched her since she joined the crowd of people shitting on jkr w/o reading anything she actually said about troons. not what i came for when i click on a sims makin magic video>>1378072
i admire your optimism but this is a fully "drank the koolaid" take she has here
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"I can excuse murdering and cannibalism, but I Draw the line at transphobia".
The sim fandom is full of weirdos. They were talking about adding pronouns to the game & people got mad at a modder who rightfully said there's so much else they could be focusing on.
I always see angry grooms who act like they have no choice but to buy Sims dlc\play the game &complain about it all day. Not surprised she's on some weird shit.
Who knows, but they rather put dumb meaningless shit in the game, the person who complained Zero Mods is a TIF I believe, so everyone got mad at her for thinking it's dumb and EA is pandering.>>1378267
I would there's so many people who keep shit behind paywalls for absurd amounts of time, then act like they are doing the world a favor by modding a game.
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Her nipple is one of the worst results I've seen. It's almost like a spiral
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I recently discovered her music and I was very disappointed to find out she's a troon
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I've seen at least a couple examples of this phenomenon, you know the well meaning liberal supportive straight boyfriend whose girlfriend gf decides to identify as he/they and demands they call themselves a queer and or gay couple
Its not even in the same level as the suffering and humiliation transwidows have to deal with but it seems pretty infuriating
i like how this comment says the phrase "fully transition" is transphobic when that's literally the wording OP's TIF girlfriend used according to him? i thought policing trans identities was bad?>>1380887
have you seen erika moen's comic about how she used to be a lesbian but has a boyfriend now, and one panel had them both making perverted comments towards a woman? it's something like that
gay twinks listen to ariana grande, taylor swift or shit like that. as long as the artist is a talented or attractive female then its twink music.
aap fakeboisthink that listening to some TRVE MALE shit like metal or the most quirky
and boring indie music you can find, is peak gay male behavior
Cavetown. My Chemical Romance. Mother Mother. Anything about being a rebellious self-destructive but sensitive teen boy (think jesus of suburbia). Some god-awful punk band you've never heard of comprised entirely of ftm that imploded after the drummer and the singer had a messy breakup.
The only real crossover between gayboys and fakebois is musical soundtracks.
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the comments are even worse
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never forget Jack Black and Jewish males have "transmasc" swag
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Gender is on their mind 24/7. I thought clothes had no gender? Quit stressing out about it and just wear what you want. If you want people to use they/them just tell them. But nobody will ever not be able to tell you're female.
It must be exhausting to be constantly obsessed with how other people perceive you. Gendies are experts at creating pointless problems for themselves.>>1380481
This is a consequence of alphabet clout becoming the edgy popular trend with teenagers. Anyone who looks cool and hot must be kweer because everyone knows straight people are dumb and boring.
>>1380402>>1380469>always portray boys as soft and innocent. It just screamed those 'male positivity' tumblr blogs run by horribly naïve teen girls in the 2010s.
I honestly find TIFs perspective on boys and boyhood to be fascinating, TIMs fetishize girlhood and make into a pornographic fantasy and let's be fair TIFs also fetishize boyhood as well(I mean many are Fujos) but they go can beyond that
they perceive boyhood as innocence and adventure, they believe it's filled with understanding, compassion and "sexual tension", its an unbearably naive way but you can understand it
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>>1381599> Some god-awful punk band you've never heard of comprised entirely of ftm that imploded after the drummer and the singer had a messy breakup
you can say GRLwood
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Her "boy" version look exactly like that kid from Token Ranbu. Those fujos has no shame.
I don't think its on par with asian guys, Jewish men stereotyped as being ugly and grotesque with their features
though I've never seen this phenomenon of women lusting after Jewish men for whatever reason, is this a recent thing ?
I think they headcannon these boys/men with a level of hidden emotional depth and sensitivity that just isn't there. Like the 'bad boys' in romance fiction.
There's also an element of just wanting to be gross and free like boys are without being restricted by femininity.
Yeah, but he can also grow a full beard.
lol at the argument that men being fat and mediocre-looking is gnc now.
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This is totally nor mass grooming
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I used to follow this person years ago for her art. She is a storyboard artist and used to post a lot of artwork pertaining to that, fanart, little diary comics. The latter wound up overtaking her work. All of them are about gender. I don’t really care about troons much but she made being non binary her whole personality and it’s so annoying. https://mobile.twitter.com/LakeFama
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Am I being uncharitable or is this just internalised homophobia
No this is totally internalized homophobia. She's basically "I wasn't comfortable being gay unless I wasn't a woman or fully
gay", hence the tumblrified use of "Sapphic" instead of "lesbian". Those terms mean the same thing to any sane person, but tumblrtards treat "Sapphic" as "non-men loving non-men", and "lesbian" as "TIMs and TERFs".
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Looking through her comics and found this lol
I suspect the former, most actual lesbians who troon out tend to desire to be men as quickly as possible
seeing as she draws herself as more androgynous bit still feminine and her focus towards on a specific "type" of male(skinny pretty boy)
I suspect she's actually straight/Bi and has unrealized feelings regarding her genuine attraction towards men
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Digging a little shows that before she trooned out, she did a lot of comics on asexuality. NLOGism at its highest.
because I think a lot of women (especially autistic women) in the information age become so desensitized to sex/sexualuzation and unfamiliar with the difference between a romantic connection vs a friendship that they no longer consciously know what they're attracted to, focus on the social implications of their choice in romantic/sexual partners, and end up having a completely sterile pseudo-partnerships with their best friends. It's the same reason so many straight women claim to be bi or "pansexual". Speaking as a lesbian, the dating pool is just as full of straight women who will recoil at any actual attempt at intimacy as it is transbians. I can't even say I blame them, since the internet fucks us all up with regards to socializing and sexuality (porn culture is overwhelming and confusing).
I don't think the line between AGP/AAP (in it for the coom) and HSTS (internalized homophobia) are as clean-cut as people make out, at least not for women. It's possible for a lesbian to hate herself for her sexuality and fantasise about being a man to escape it, while also having terminal weeb/fujo brainrot that makes her want to be an anime boy. Plenty of lesbians are into yaoi (after all, male characters as written by women are just women with the construct of femininity removed). Sometimes HSTS men like Blaire White seem turned on by the whole bimbo thing as well.
I know in a strict Blanchard sense AGP and AAP refer to wanting to become one's own erotic object (and thus require heterosexual attraction), but people tend not to use them quite like that.
I don't know anything about this woman beyond a quick scroll through her twitter, but she seems to have a strong desire to become a self-created fictional character.
TIF/FTM music: "i wish i was just a little bug, just a little boy in the dirt…"
TIM/MTF music: I'd rape you and have sex with your bloated corpse with my massive girldick, punch a TERF
in the face. Stupid whore.
didn't want to admit the truth of TIM-written lyrics.
This is definitely something of high importance, nonnie
, who cares about the rampant sexual abuse in office jobs? Or the annoying ass schedules and terrible working conditions in shitty ass cubicles? we need bathrooms for the mentally ill so they can jack off in peace. I’m so fucking mad.
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She's so obsessed with how people see her. It's worse than normal FtMs.
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I know this seems like something a moid would say, but it's a braindead TIF. She's a bit of a personal cow of mine, also a DID-chan.
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Here's some more internalized misogyny. I think she goes so hard for TIMs because she was married to one for a while.
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Do you ever see an artwork and just know it was created by a self hating TIF?
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oh my god, this person is a mild cow of mine too. i respect her skill with pixels and colors (also i do enjoy some of her story concepts that don't revolve around gender shit) but her hatred for TIFs (despite being a biological female who got surgery and takes hormones) that identify as "men" is insane to me. i'm somewhat sympathetic to her since she claims to be intersex and went through medical abuse as a result (which might explain the hardcore genderism) but the internalized misogyny is why i can't stand following her main accounts
the TIM she was married is apparently a DID-chan too, but they suddenly divorced for reasons i don't think were ever spoken about publicly. gray started going through an "asexual" phase (despite doing literal porn commissions in the past and having a now-deleted sideblog for horny posts) and claims she never had a partner that respected it, so i wonder if he was coercive in the way that's typical for a lot of TIM+TIF relationships
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Like if it wasn't obvious she was an awkward kid.
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Also lol at keeping the stereotype of troons not liking showers.
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Do you remember when some TIF on tumblr (who in fairness also comes across as a cow) wrote a negative review of her comic and she got so butt-blasted that someone wasn't worshipping the ground she walks on that she removed every individual panel mentioned in the review from the comic, and replaced it with picrel? (despite what it says, she never redrew anything and they're still like that)
here's the review btw: https://web.archive.org/web/20181226071457/http://butchsnubbull.tumblr.com:80/post/181118688214/we-need-to-talk-about-grays-racism
She hates everyone except TIMs. She's always complaining about lesbians having beauty standards that don't include her (liking boobs, liking muscles, liking skinny women, liking women who aren't buttass hideous). She hates 'cisgender' women for ever acknowledging their sex in any context (see tweets posted above) and obviously she hates 'cisgender' men.
I refuse to believe someone who draws porn that viscerally depraved doesn't have a libido, anymore than I believe someone who lusts after cock is a lesbian. He probably was coercive and treated her like shit because it's a TIM-TIF relationship, although I'm sure she's an absolute black hole of misery to be around.
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Apparently Jeff was cheating on her with an actual man. Picrel is from a comic she made about one of her "alters" "splitting" into two over her divorce. >>1383901
Yes holy fuck, she is so fucking sensitive about any criticism she receives. Even just neutral non praise comments can trigger
a day-long twitter rant. After she finished Drop Out, the ratio of "this was the best comic evar!!" to "I didn't like how it ended" comments was 100:1, but she took the negative ones so personally she swore off talking about the comic for like a year.
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the "queer" definition of "asexual" is "someone who isn't sexually attracted to people", so therefore in that easily-exploitable definition someone can have a libido and enjoy porn and be "asexual" at the same time (it's bullshit, i know).
however i've followed gray for years and she's been on various cocktails of medications including antidepressants and antipsychotics, sometimes at the same time, so it's possible that the reason she deleted that side blog and doesn't draw porn/fetish stuff (it used to be on her main art blog but is deleted now) anymore is because she truly lost her libido and doesn't want to have sex anymore, but it kind of contradicts how she claimed to always be asexual at the same time. especially if she goes by the "isn't sexually attracted to people" definition but then turns around and draws a comic about how her alter ego finds random women in public sexually attractive and feels guilty about it (picrel)
It's so funny how their sphere of the internet approaches conflict using their oppressed identities like pokemon. "I have three indigenous transgender wives and I'm a POC
" "Oh yeah, well I have a trans POC
wife and I'm poor and anorexic AND jewish!" all while barely discussing the actual issue at hand.
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>>1384190>trans POC wife
He looks pretty fucking white to me
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I'd give her the benefit of the doubt if troons converting to Judaism so they have something else to be oppressed about wasn't such a thing (for example this lovely lady from the MtF thread).
If you've been following her for a while, do you know if the stuff about her mother abusing her is true? She seemed very vague about what actually went down, which reminded me of a schizophrenic I know who randomly decided his totally normal parents had always been abusive
(I know schizophrenia is one of the million things she's diagnosed with). But I don't really want to assume anything.
she never tags her posts (and when she does they're usually trigger warning
tags followed by shit like "/-/-/-" so it's not searchable) so it's hard to search, but i do think her claims of abuse are legit when they're not sandwiched between cries of transphobia, i used to watch her drawing streams from back when she lived with her mother and i've heard noises like muffled yelling from another room being silenced in one. the gist seems to be that both parents suck but the father is slightly less shitty>>1384247
some less strict sects of judaism accept people who are patrilineal
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>>1383391>both Zelda and Link are FTM
I thought you were joking but Jesus Christ
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Yeah I have to agree, she posted picrel (https://anonym.es/?https://twitter.com/piuraithey/status/1466486239675228160?s=21
) as a flex but she just made the image completely unparseable. Her style has become more and more illegible as she goes on.
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Her comics are better looking fwiw. I found her art through her comics, I'm pretty sure they're what she's best known for, and it really looks like she half asses everything outside of them
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I was extremely disappointed with how the art turned out from the start to the end. Supposedly it was because of Gray's eating disorder recovery but like…just take the time to accomplish what you set out to do. I guess we're derailing with this art sperg but I've never met other people interested in this artist lol.
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if any of you like looking at embarrassing identity obsessed dumpster fires: listography's (aka what everyone used before carrd) homepage lists the most recently changed lists and you always find the funniest nonsensical shit on there.
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>>1383391>>1384304>She changed her name to something her wife said in passing, stopped celebrating her birthday, started celebrating the day she chopped her boobs off as her birthday
She calls it her "Lake day" as that's the name she gave herself
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reminds me of this and the TIF who took the name of her sister's dead son as a way of honoring him
I want to shake her and tell her to just be a GNC butch. She's making her life difficult for herself completely on her own.>>1383766
Not wanting to be perceived is the ultimate female experience. You will not change my mind. Funny how they tell on themselves: it's clear so many of them have a trauma related to being sexualised as a woman. It's very sad>>1384175
Kek I didn't even think about! Doesn't make any sense, unless she is taking a photo of what's in front of her. But that's a reach
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Oh man, an artist I followed a few years ago trooned out a while back and did something like that but chose the name of a dead uncle. Can’t imagine how weird that must be for the parent whose brother that was.
If I gave birth to and raised a whole child I'd be pissed about this shit. I know she can't appreciate parenthood/childbirth unless it's a beautiful valid
seahorse dad doing it tho
I strongly suspect that the reason she's choosing her dead uncle who she has no memories off is specifically cause he was likely a gay male
It's like that so called "TIF pioneer" who would trick Gay men into having sex with her and then felt validated by getting AIDS, she even sent a letter to Blanchard talking about her experiences
This just made me sad, I was an awkward girl as well and I can somewhat understand what their feeling but this is just a false identity (gender is already loosely fabricated) on top of a fake structure. With a narcissistic and egotistical perfect simulation view of the acting out of being a certain gender.
I don't know if I have the vocabulary to get the point properly across. But it's just saddening.
To me TIFs are just like the awkward and nerdy girls who try to desperately copy from make up gurus and act out like an e-girl when she just wants to read YA or something. I don't know. Maybe I'm misunderstanding it, but it's simply what I see and I just hope these people can stop acting like this one day.
I've known a lot of lesbian couples that act like roommates. One is always asexual while the other is bisexual. The "asexual lesbian" one always lusts after anime and vidya boys but has no desire to fuck a woman/her girlfriend/wife.
I've known multiple actual married couples like this. One thing they all have in common is that they all met online in their teenage years. Is this the female version of prison gay?
I believe there are actual asexual people but I think it’s rare. I used to think I was until I got over my repression and got on meds, I’ve known a few people with similar stories. I remember going into ace groups on facebook back when I thought I was ace and the majority of the user base being incredibly horny but swearing up and down they weren’t actually attracted to the people they were constantly fucking.>>1384971
I had an ex (met online) who was like this. She trooned out (NB theythem) and claimed to be bi but rarely showed any actual interest in women (me included) but had a bunch of male actors she was obsessed with. Last I saw she had changed her orientation to ‘gay’, which I assume here means straight with different pronouns.
The only "asexual" person I have ever had an honest interaction was a guy who reveled me that he was molested multiple times as a kid and was deeply uncomeatable with human sexuality including his own, IRL as well he was humorless, rarely displayed any emotions and disliked being touched
He's probably the only self described Asexual person that I understand and I think their genuine in their identification
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>has ugly boyfriend
Yup. I give it a few months before she comes out as a they/them or he/they.
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does her bf look like picrel, this is Khadija "I'm queer, I'm non binary, I'm dark skin, with a Muslim background, who is now more spiritual" mbowe's ex-boyfriend btw
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Nope, he's in pic attached. That corny yin-yang tattoo kek.
I mean he's not handsome but I wouldn't describe him as ugly, definitely not on par with >>1385062
needs to get rid of that pedo mustache though and also cut his hair(long hair works on some guys but not him)
y'all gotta stop random people related to cows Ugly even though their just average looking
I'd agree it might work for most people but not him, other then the molestation he's still seen some other shit that just made him the way he is
he's in his 30's and seems to hate everybody for the most part
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The constantly writing incomprehensible essays on her tumblr blog about the complexities of the butch experience and those evil cisnormative lesbians while her entire dating history appears to be a gender conforming autistic man who just had ratty long hair and pronouns is the funniest thing about her. Even funnier than the several metre long comics about her imaginary friends arguing with each-other that she honestly seems to expect people to read/ take seriously, or "furry vore is a complex metaphor for queer relationships". She's so constantly hateful and bitter on social media, so smug while saying the most profoundly retarded things,
and so perpetually miserable, I don't know how anyone could stand to be around her IRL. >>1384333
Same. The colours in the comics are sometimes nice, but everything else is on a scale from derpy to incomprehensible. Plus it's furry art.>>1383931
She got cucked for dick? That's hilarious.
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>>1384198>that Kikomi-chan hair-texture
She was the blueprint
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>>1384815>It's like that so called "TIF pioneer" who would trick Gay men into having sex with her and then felt validated by getting AIDS, she even sent a letter to Blanchard talking about her experiences
Your thinking of Lou Sullivan, here's the exert of the letter she sent Blanchard about tricking gay men into fucking her and feeling validation as a "real gay man" by her AIDS diagnosis
She is considered a Transmale activist and Icon
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maybe this is because i'm a meanie terf
but what makes her different from an evil terfy lesbian-identified transman when she also takes hormones, got her tits chopped off, and claims to be a lesbian too? the pronouns she uses? even though she's functionally the same as a transman in any other context, and is aware of this according to one of her recent alter ego diary comics (picrel)?
also literally most of her recent horny posts on her blog are talking about pussy (so much for being "asexual"), so who is the "pussy for pussy" terf
it's funny to me since a lot of these identity-obsessed troons are all about communism and whatnot, and while i'm no commie i still know "material reality" is a big part of their political analysis on society. why is gender the exception (rhetorical, obviously)?
it's also funny how she argue that if a cisgendered man started identifying as a lesbian to have sex with lesbians, that would be fucked up in predatory and therefore the same as a transman that's self-aware that surgery doesn't change her sexuality, but the thing is, men already do that, they just claim to be "butch lesbian transwomen", which gray supports and even has an OC of…
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She's not very good at critical thinking, to put it mildly. I suppose her idea is internally consistent: if literally the only thing that matters is what you identify as in your head, then transmen and actual men are completely indistinguishable (see her tweet upthread about how it's meaningless to talk about biological sex). Therefore, the men who identify as butch lesbians unironically are 100% butch lesbians, and the ones that say they're butch lesbians but are actually just lying to get into some gendery girls pants are 100% the dreaded cishet man. Nevermind that they're physically the same, and there's no way you could ever know what's actually going on in their minds to tell which is which, she's delusional enough that she probably thinks she can read minds anyway.
She literally married a butch trans lesbian, I'm pretty sure that lion character was based on him because they both have a long mane of hair as their one 'feminine' feature.
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TBH I know nothing about him (don't think I've even seen his tumblr), I'm just going off pics from her blog where he just looked like an average schlub with long hair and the fact that she portrayed the character as a self-absorbed autist. You're probably right, having your beloved wife be your self-inserts ex in your comic would be a bit much.
I hope her next romantic conquest is peteseeger. He's even jewish now!
Literally the only people I've seen using "he/they lesbian" unironically are genderspecials and TRAs. Interesting how her first impulse when she sees her own community being retarded is to assume that it's a TERF
psyop and not the sort of hypocrisy that arises from how logically inconsistent TRA principles are.
it's also funny in these hardcore gender spaces, you can basically be a "transman" in every way besides identifying as one and still be considered a valid
lesbian. you can use male pronouns, male name, take hormones, damage your ribs with a binder, get your tits cut off, wear a fake penis in your pants, but as long as you don't use the "M" word (man) you're perfectly fine. they're so obsessed with labels that reality doesn't matter anymore
That was one of the most odd aspects of the song, I mean some of the things she desired were understandable but shit like
>I wish I could put on eyeliner and glitter and actually look good>And I wish I were a boy>So I finally look cute in dresses and skirts
like what the fuck, does she really believe that schlubby or scrawny boys look "cuter" in clothing that is designed for women first and will always look better on a woman
I think its also getting an instant community and support as well. When my mental health gets bad I want support or control over anything. The easiest thing you have control is your body. I've totally spiralled into like, what if I'm not butch and i'm a trAnS. lmao. I'm LGBT (lesbian/ace) so like I know a lot of trans people from that community and 100% none of them transitioned during a point in their life that was good and stable.
Would they have done that had they had stability? Health wise, financially etc? Honestly, I don't think most would have. Only like the true trans people, not the fujos and flabby moob boys.(sage)
Girl wearing girl clothes = giving into heteropatriarchal gender norms, being like the other girls> plus the fact that wearing girl clothes while identifying as a girl does not guarantee desirable girl treatment, actually you may be laughed at, just ask any ugly girl or TIM
Boy wearing girl clothes = so subversive, so brave, not afraid of emasculation, avant garde> also why so many TIMs get the yaas girl so stunning and brave treatment in leftist spaces(sage)
Hello, lesbian ace woman here. Welcome to my blog. For me, its like I'm just not interested in sex or sexuality. I've never looked at someone and felt the urge to fuck them, or even kiss them. I've had a few sexual relationships with people (men, women, one trans girl regrettably), more out of obligation but it never really did anything for me, emotionally. Sex over all feels kind of pointless, I can genuinely do it better myself.
I'm not sex repulsed, I don't have trauma, sex just isnt interesting. lol. I had a girlfriend until recently (broke up because I moved and don't want LDR), we were good though. she's wasnt ace and wanted me so she asked for some every now and then. I'd just get her off because I liked her and it made her happy.
and no I'm not an autist, and yes my hormones' have been checked and theyre fine.(unsaged derailment )
1. you're allowed to have your stupid labels but it's kind of bold of you to announce you're "lesbian/ace" when this thread was loling over how asexuals are liars earlier
2. you have a point about mental/financial stability but there's no "true trans" since brain sex hasn't proven in the way transmeds argue it and "born in the wrong body" is a borderline religious concept
3. please sage your shit
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>>1385111>and in some… way feel that my condition is proof that I really attained my goal of being a gay man – even to the finish
Imagine being so brainrotten you're glad you caught AIDS.
Thank god straight TIFs these days are undersocialised and/or autistic to do this shit to themselves.
I suppose that's valid
, but is it not a helpful indicator of the kind of relationship a person is looking for or offering?
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Fakebois are so lacking in self awareness it hurts sometimes
You're right, nothing bad ever happens to men in real life. That's the whole reason you want to be one so bad kek
The porn even the most coombrained women create will never come close to the depravity of the porn men create, and the things men actually do. Cope.
Also where the fuck are the fujoshis fetishizing trans men?
Yeah lets not defend porn usage here, sure it will never reach the same levels of male depravity but it will still mentally fuck up its readers after too much exposure
Fujo culture is the reasons we have aidens in the first place
also blog but similar. when i was at my lowest and my mental health was fucked i had no sense of identity and though it was nb.
turns out just lonely and depressed.
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>>1385642>Also where the fuck are the fujoshis fetishizing trans men?
They’re not, it’s just Aidens projecting really hard.
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This girl who's a nsfw artist but mostly draws ggay porn and is constantly shifting identities between FTM, non binary, whatever the fuck. etc
Apparently drawing gay porn does that to ya. And they say it's not a fucking fetish/motivated by coomerism, even in women kek
She has a nice artstyle though, it's a pity. It's just that it's hard to appreciate art when it's men fucking each other in the ass all the time.
the only fujoshis who "fetishize transmen" are TIFs self-inserting themselves. people like to use rcdart and whatnot as proof but rcd was an "agender" TIF last time i checked. i've seen some "cuntboy" art drawn by women (with no special gender identity), but that's mostly a thing i see bisexual men be into, and the whole point of that kink is that they're not
transgendered, they're biological males with vaginas aka a fetish version of intersex (doesn't make it less weird/gross but that's their logic)
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Did you know detransers are now in the genderspecial pokedex?
is this from a TRA blog? i've seen some terfs make ironic pride flags but i don't think most detransitioners would want a pride
flag for something that was a bad experience for them?
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I found it reposted in r/detrans
A lot of users there dont seem happy about it, and detrans already has a flag with a salamander on it apparently. I think troons couldnt handle that it didnt use the lgbtqasdf template so they created an "official" one. Imo it seems like theyre noticing people deprogramming and are trying to keep their hooks in
NTA, it seems to be from this blog https://ur-fave-is-a-lesbian-transman.tumblr.com/
I can't really make sense of it, but I'm not sure it's a troll blog.
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i've seen the salamander used as a symbol for detransitioners, which i think is interesting and meaningful because it actually means something as opposed to a bunch of mspaint colors thrown around>>1386045
i think they're just weird centrists since they appear to be kind of TRA but kind of terf
at the same time (picrel)
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That is just pure homophobia! You don't get AIDS from having sex with only a handful of gay men! AIDS, Syphilis and Donovanosis are not primarily spread by gays
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Jeremia Butler, FTM
Are you a new follower of her, anon? I've been following for a while now and it's only recently she started drawing gay porn again.
She used to draw gay outlast fanart, then detransed, and then most of her porn includes a petite girl and like 3 other dudes. Sometimes i wish she'd realize she's just a fujo lol
i'm quite sure this was
the dominant rhetoric among TRAs until like 2014-ish or so? idk what changed and why
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Fakeboism is a resort for those who inherently can't butch themselves because they know whenever they lez out they're always the femmes so their only resort is transition.
It's weird because I think most normal people would have been okay enough with "we just feel more comfortable living this way" to not think about it. But then suddenly there's all this postmodern stuff about being a real man and woman and I'm walking into the kitchen and my female relatives are gathered around talking about how men need to be kept out of women's sports. Surreal.>>1386394
What are you on? Most fakeboi are terrified of looking butch because it means they failed in their goal of becoming the anime boy (plus they're lesbophobic).
No way wouldn't it sound more truscum than tucute tho? tucutes want to fuck gender up yet claim biological sex is immutable while truscum have delusions of actually changing sex>>1386265>>1386394
turn up the cope factor kek
But sadly some butches aren't taken seriously for not being butch enough>>1386020
wouldn't this be the start of a downfall? seems like even foojomers have standards since cuntboys are "eww it's back to gross icky yucky bog standard girls" and boring side characters
How tf are you so sure nonny
, that AGP truscoomer is going nowhere and so are you>>1386436
They know who exactly to push back into the kitchen
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>>1384738>who took the name of her sister's dead son as a way of honoring him
also if my my sister did this, I would never speak to her again
>>1386432>wouldn't this be the start of a downfall?
NTA but in my fandom, the fujos I've talked to don't like trans men shit but we just keep to ourselves because expressing any dislike of it will automatically get us dogpiled for "transphobia". But another fandom I'm in surprisingly has little to no tranny shit in it. I even saw some fics where it's tagged as cuntboy instead of "trans male character" (TIFs rage when a fic is tagged with cuntboy or futa because it invalidates their TMAM or TWAW ideology. They claim those tags are problematic
because they fetishize trans people when though their whole existence is the fetishization of the opposite sex). I think most fujos don't like the idea of trans men and only genderspecials do, but genderspecials tend to congregate better. Still, it's fucking hard to call this shit out for the homophobia it is because you'll have a bunch of "trans and totally gay" TIFs coming after you.
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I understand the worry. Some of them swear up and down it's radfem grooming for some reason…? It must be tranny cope because who routinely
gets caught with pizza is male troons, I imagine even more so in discord and reddit. I hope there isn't actual ex-gay shit though, religious organizations of any kind always want to pounce on those stories fast.
Same person, lemme add up just look at their fantasies, a lot of them are based on the female gaze and women's POV of two moid characters fucking each other
Same for male troons, their femininity are based on male gaze. And coincidentially they look like towering gorillas, and have hypermasculine faces. Coincidence much?
i know, i see new detransitioners pop up frequently, but the issue is did they turn conservative/homophobic and blame the "LGB Agenda"
? ignore this reply if they have, buy that's the thing some worry about. i actually saw a detransitioner on r/detrans who converted to christianity and went ex-gay but i wrote it off as one person, but will it happen more and lead to backlash?
I think honestly it comes down to sensory issues. Trooning out and autism have some pretty strong connections so it doesn't surprise me that autistic women who think they're men don't understand it has nothing to do with "dysphoria". It has to do with not understanding sensory issues are at their worst when your brain can't process overwhelming sensations in combination with processing stress or a stressful environment. Water/Showering is a huge sensory overload even to normal functioning brains (it's why most people don't just randomly want to jump into a cold pool or why it's hard for people to shower in the morning) but non autistics can process sensations way easier just like with sounds and foods. It makes a lot of sense in her comic if you see it as a young girl who is calmed by water (like a lot of autistic children are) suddenly experiencing intense sensory overload while adding unnecessary confusion/stress (aka "disphoria") to a brain that's predisposed to being overwhelmed by outside stimulus.
Sorry to sperg, it genuinely makes me sad that autistic girls are so overlooked in society that they are forced to play their own psychologist and figure out why their brains are different from their other female peers. That and the shame involved. Men are allowed to be shamelessly autistic no matter where on the spectrum but women have to be either low or not functioning to even be considered autistic. It's a diagnoses that could save a ton of young women from experiencing a lot of confusion and self hatred growing up but I'm sure some of you nonnies don't need me to point that one out.
I will never defend AGPs, those degenerate fucks. But in the case of TIFs, it could be the smallest most feminine women try to transition to male because they want to escape abuse they experienced as a vulnerable class. They believe they were preyed upon for being "weak" and female. But it's much "easier" to try and escape the reality of the female condition and troon out than it is to accept the harrowing reality of being a hair away from being victimized by 50% of the population all over again.
But that's only a small portion of TIFs. Many of them are just yaoi coomers.
It happens sometmes.
I would say bouncing from one ideology to another like that is a sign the psychological distress that made them transition in the first place (sense of community often being a factor) hasn't been treated. "Dysphoria" as nebulous a definition it has, is often a factor. Additionally, IDing as trans comes with a built-in support community of other trans people and supposedly the broader "queer" community. This can seem appealing to people who are feeling out of control, isolated, and having severe mental distress.
I could see someone converting to Chirstianity, or another religion, for similar reasons. There is the built in community around the religion. You have built in activities like attending church, church organized events, you have similar topics to discuss. There's bonding things, too, including holidays or ceremonial things like communion and baptisms.
They're latching onto things again because they feel lost and isolated. Whether that be oscaliting from one political extreme to the other, or just joining a new ideological group (a religion rather than a more "social" ideological community like trans shit) the motivations are similar, and can indicate the person is still feeling distressed/lonely. Detransing and being part of the out-group can probably extenuate that distress and make someone lean harder into things they used to disagree with, like conservatism, because that political alignment may welcome a detransitioner as "proof" if you get me, and do the same lovebombing shit as the initial group did when they decided to transition.
I find people who fluctuate from one group like to the next tend to not only be mentally ill and not receiving adequate treatment, but they also tend to be very uncritical about the ideas they are presented and the things they read online. I can't say if it's because they're too fucked to exert the mental energy to be thoughtful, curious, and think for themselves, or if it is because of a particular online culture that encourages disengaging completely from dissenting opinions in order to maintain purity of thought or some shit.
You see it a lot in TRA shit, where they tell you not even to glance at gender critical writers, or won't engage with gender critical creators even if the GC shit is irrelevant to what they produce. Online spaces that are influenced by algorithms are especially prone to that sort of gormless, insular thinking imo.
Nta but I've seen more "straight girl thinks she's gay if she identifies as male since she still likes sex with men, and man + man = gay".
Sure many of these girls are pornsick or have indeed developed a weird fetish but most of those I know (who aren't pornsick, just jumping on the "oh there's a get out of misogyny free card?" identity bandwagon) it's as simple as "man + man = gay, me man so me gay" since they don't suddenly become lesbians by being "men". Ouch my head.
Aren't there just more nonwhite hsts because most white mtfs are now agp?
Unironically if transgenderism was restricted to them, the whole movement would've not taken off.
I blame tumblr white sjw liberals personally
The LGBT as a whole
was used to ultimately shill the trans movement, the gay/trans experience was sold as ~special and unique~" so of course teenagers would like it, with all the pride shit shilled everywhere, constant propaganda by corporations, celebrities and even media, i can understand why they would think the whole LGB is at fault even when actual gay people where never behind all this craze, is very unfortunate.
This was bond to happen, if the trans movement disappears, all the (fake) acceptance of diversity will too because is the only reason it got so far in the first place, this was all a massive larp where a bunch of mentally ill retards got to feel special at the expenses of a minority, with how insidious all this is, you could theorize zoomers are actually way more homophobic than older generations, i can see them devolving into conservatives.
nta but transitioning is basically conversion therapy and favored by homophobes, it's insidious to tack a form of conversion therapy on the end of LGB but here we are.
Transitioning is all about pathologizing gender nonconformity and same sex attraction and making money from the ensuing medical procedures, nobody makes money from a gay person living their life so it's obvious why the mostly conservative and capitalistic media jumped on board so readily.
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>Complex multi-layered female character who resents the patriarchic society she lives in, said patriarchic society constantly undermines her and punishes her harder then her male counterparts >well that proves she's clearly a transman https://lothelynx.wordpress.com/2021/10/17/a-most-uncommon-woman-cersei-lannisters-gender-trouble/
So yeah I got back into the GoT fandom and apparently this is a thing now, the shit smearing kweers have now almost universally decided that Cersie is a closeted transman, you have TIFs going "Cersie is clearly trans cause she had gender envy against her brother" but even an Idiot could understand she wanted to be her brother for 1)the societal benefits and 2)the physical strength of a male(Cersie has this whole thing of desiring the strength of a male warrior)
the whole fucking essay is every thing wrong queer theory, so much reaching and taking aspects of a character out of context to create their own narrative
Like Cersie is resentful for being born in a fucked up world but even she knows the problem is not her womanhood but society, She thinks men are mostly Idiots and It never once a came across in her POV's that she ever wanted to a man rather just wanted to be taken as seriously as men
also the essay also tries to use the fact Jamie and Cersei were identical twins and claim it as an example of how the "heteronormative gender binary" is made up cause they looked identical when they were pre-pubescent children and their current sex roles is only due to arbitrary choice(which in the essay's view are genitals), ignoring the fact they started developing vastly different when they were teenagers, Jamie is tall, muscular and extremely strong, It wouldn't matter if Jamie or Cersie were raised as the opposite sex cause Jamie would always end up bigger and physically stronger then his twin sister. its like these people have no understanding of how the insecurities all people have regarding their sex roles and also human puberty
also last note, a big part of Cersie's character is that despite everything she did somewhat enjoy motherhood, she was happy to bear Jaime’s babies, in being a mother to them, and nursing them at her breast, I don't know how a transman or enby could relate to that
Hell no the holocaust victim
on steroids again, at least not shirtless again. I was kinda ashamed of hating Ellen Page for dragging me down with her dead bottomless depression pit eyes but now that she is this monstrosity i just want it dead. Friggin animated mummy
Honestly this though.
Sage for blog, but at my previous job I had male co-workers tell me they wanted to shower with me, ask how frequently I had sex with my boyfriend, rub my thigh as a "good job" after presentations…and whenever I tried to bring it up to HR or even the union I was just told "that sound so hard and you're so brave for telling us" while the company went on to fix nothing. But they installed gender neutral bathrooms on all floors and implemented tranny friendly sexual harassment training and so were labelled as a "gender friendly company." FTMs just trying to opt out of misogyny by calling themselves boys and fighting for tranny rights makes me so angry when women are still subjected to so much harassment than any tranny ever will face.
>>1387766>she did somewhat enjoy motherhood, she was happy to bear Jaime’s babies, in being a mother to them, and nursing them at her breast, I don't know how a transman or enby could relate to that
For what it's worth, there are transmen who happily do all those things post transition. I don't know how common it actually is, but I've seen a hand full of big media stories about it.
These people are utterly deranged.
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Its interesting they took this line as a some deep comment regarding gender and Its also "interesting" that they don't give any context and seem to subtly imply that she's making this comment too Jamie as further proof about how biological sex is somehow fake cause adult male and female twins could easily pass as each other, when that's not the case
she's saying this to Robert(who in a way the most traditionally masculine character in the series) and its both in a moment of anger and meant as an insult towards him, its just a paraphrasing way of saying "you're not a real man" in order to goad Robert to take rash actions against the Starks
saging for late response but
1. Jupiter not Juniper, are you dumb?
2. Pls don't let this happen to Saturn my favourite I would cry
There's a higher standard deviation in the female avegrage brain pattern than the male one, therefore autism would be harder to detect, that or female socialization would force every girl into a profile and finding out that they can't keep up to fit is distressing. Also, even if the extreme male braim theory holds true, it doesn't apply to all autistic females. There is another subtype for those who are still princess-like and feminine while autistic and it tends to be this group who troons in the new '10s and '20s>>1387310>>1386394
Notice tall butch strong women never troon and proudly accept their womanhood? Because small feminine women can't butch well to be taken seriously and the oppression from society as a whole for being so "weak" (ironically not just gay/gnc men are seen this way, the femmephobia) that they feel like they have to delete their femininity. Strong butch women have one less problem that blocks them from resorting to troon.
No1 would say that unless u're a feminist kek.
MTF are better in putting more effort to be trans plus they're mature perverts (fakebois lack this perversion) who knows what they want. Fakebois (all pics so far) well… thing is both genders worship Astolfo/the drag queens where it ends up females falling back on their own gender while males can turbo boost their transness. See the big pic u foid
Most fakebois are uncritical and may detransition at the drop of the next hat. Don't expect the easily overwhelmed to go through a life-altering experiment only to kill themselves after it goes wrong.>>1387253>>1387490>>1387680
Narcissism happens to be found much more in the TRA group today than the general population, so once gays thought trans were like them they include them, only to find out they're completely different and also AGP are fucking vile alomg with the SJW. Therefore they're separated into those who believe biology and those who deny>>1386639
Remember most fujos are normies with an additional yaoi fetish, of course trans people would look ugly af in porn and yaoi. It kills the mood to have a "reverse trap" since yaoi centres around anime men (therefore dicks), just as transwomen are classified as "shemales"/femboys in porn>>1387984
Explain NLOG, nonny>>1388001
I too can see the growing number of moids here since yesterday but that doesn't mean you can defend both troomers and male truscoomers alike
Idiot you don't understand kek. All trans are bad trans because their attitude is shit and all but there's a diff between "good trans" and "good at being trans". HSTS of both genders aside, most AGPs don't pass but most fakebois don't bother to pass is what's making it cringe. Yes, AGPs can spam but you can tell whether it's a (usually) more rational male or an attention-seeking teen girl. Most are blog-styled tweets but u women are so triggered
by simple narc-like blogposts going on their day. Understandable if they're making cringy girldick/suck muh ladydique threats and boasting about how a "female penis" feels "different and much softer" and wanting women to die and calling them t*rfs and all but there's no other fake disorder/xenogendercringe/neopronoun, about them, as if they're not interested in being special. Not saying they're great. Cope and seethe, men are better than girls at being trans but sadly everyone's only dancing around these few words.
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samefag of >>1388022
I met this scrote's genderbend(idk kek but the use of "moid") version, except she's a female misogynist. Is the overall environment in mtf thread different from here?
>>1388002>It is because mostly of us live in the global south and are less likely to troon out because we got real problems?
You answered your own question. Can't live this bougie fantasy when faced with a crude reality 24/7.
Also, there's no way to be a part of the Trans Economy (e-begging) if you don't speak fluent english and gets to stay at home, chronically online and jobless, rotting away in your room and whining about imaginary troubles. There's only a few who gets play with kweer nonsense like the gringos(as) because all their basic needs are taken care of.
Sister of >>1387973
here, while I have no problem with actual real trannies, but my little scrotebro needs to grow the fuck up and not dump his shit here. we know there are nice trannies who aren't anymore shit as the next narc, but just because he's a moid there are too many assumptions about him before he clears up. came here to see his tough guy facade dissolve each time he gets misunderstood kek
One too many mtfs act like serial killers and creepy coomers which no woman would, for them just stepping out of line is a horizon crossing and would earn accusations of internalized misogyny and much more backlash. fakebois inherent disservice to all women and aren't any more harmless either. some of them co-opting male-like behaviors turns out it was only roleplay, but that doesn't mean it's an ant sting. A trans man raped some girl before.(scrote)
different anon but i know some but i don't see the point in sticking up for them on an imageboard dedicated to laughing at people. it's like chiming in a thread making fun of someone with BPD saying not all people with that disorder are bad. who fucking cares?>>1388262
what do you consider to be an "actual real tranny" anyway? the transmedicalist cope that some people are born with an opposite sex brain hasn't been proven
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yet these troons know nothing about when girls are perioding their hormones are at the lowest
>>1388385>>1388397>unproven people are born with opposite sex brain>"brain sex doesn't exist"
This,ironically makes me believe brain sex more, albeit not in the truscoomer way. If brain sex isn't real, then more women should be acting like scrotes. However, the scrote's sister (confirmed, either that or it's a troll larp) is somewhat clockable (NLOG, believing in transmedicalism, and not sure a derailed post in another mtf thread is hers too) As in we know she's female. This is the case too for many fakebois trying to pose the manliest(kek?) they can. And TIMs (even HSTS and male truscoomers) aren't immune either. All females are fembrained and all males are manbrained.>>1388390
3rd-world countries are more conservative, example many romance languages (Spanish in mexico/portugese in brazil) are gendered, many latins spoke up against latinx because it sounds outright insane. Liberals make obvious satire real because of constant whining.>>1388471
And yet troomers claim they've done extensive research about hormones. Sigh, moids are such simple creatures
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i checked in on one of my irl personal cows a while back and this happened, rip. classical fujoshi to ftm pipeline. weird that she draws herself very feminine still and edits her images to look more like her previous self, she must regret this so hard. sage because personal sadcow.
its an obvious larp nonnie
. browsing lolcow isnt exactly my idea of sibling bonding
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a TIF begged the world to see her pov, but do u think she's immune to misogyny herself?
Of course not nonny
, this bitch isn't special. We're only tied to the same biological sex, not secret witch cults.
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cast a 5'0 scrawny he/him womanlet as a character whose supposed to have the physique of an olympic gymnast
as if I could call a female serial murderer a man because her rap sheet is "too dirty to be a woman's". same logic>>1388900
Update: she (in the case it's really a she since idk anymore) got banned but as a scrote, lmfao I understand NLOG/moid apologia but how did the rest of you clock this girl? Now I can only doubt my internet clocking ability
Still me >>1389018
but they seem to have contrasting views how are these types of people supposed to get along irl
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tbf a 5'0 woman can be an olympic gymnast but I get what your saying with regards to nightwing, he canonically is supposed to be the best looking out of the entire bat family and is supposed to have a "perfect" male physique which is both masculine and beautiful
I don't think 90% of scrotes could have nightwing's physique and a TIF is out of the question
>>1388979>I share the same capacity for empathy or for lack of empathy towards women.
KEK because even this moid loving sperg still has to acknowledge the inherent lack of empathy men have for women. All the copium in the world and yet she still remains a biological woman albeit an openly sociopathic one. Men will never see you as a man because of their "lack of empathy" towards fakeboi women like you. They might try and groom you though into an abusive
relationship to appease their degenerate sexual appetite and the only group that's going to feel bad for you then is women too. Good choice aligning yourself with the gender that commit 80% of violent crimes.
yeah i always listen to other women talk about this but i think they're just fucking insufferable themselves and that's why they don't have female friends like >>1389108
how the f are you gonna make female friends with that attitude. you already have a negative opinion on people you don't know, oh why the hell don't they want to be good friends with me
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>I am not an abomination, I have autism
>>1389152>I have always been your son I just didn't have the parts to match
Skylar, are you inferring that men can't have breasts and vaginas? Tsk tsk. If you wanna hop cults you gotta get your pseudoscience right!>>1389159
I was just about to say I bet they're a munchie.
>>1389016>33 year old man who still looks like a teenager
didn’t she get her tits lopped off cause she kept getting parts as sexualised teen girls?
that aside she’s now ugly as sin and dead inside. she looks like a malnourished victorian child.
and Bella Janke has better larp potential than picrel TIF lmao, would only start believing TIFs are men if the first TIF gets the scrote label.Yet the furthest they as a whole can go is… beg everyone to see "hey look i know big words and women are shit therefore i'm a man!". I can't anymore the irony
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Never forget someone wrote this unironically
>Through clothes and makeup, my idols in K-pop music videos were able to express a level of androgyny. They were challenging the notion of the gender binary and associated stereotypes. These men WERE JUST LIKE ME, and for the first time in my life, I was able to relate to someone’s gender expression. Through their performance, I realized that being a pretty boy was okay, which led me to finally see myself as a trans man over the following years. Now I’m 20, and without my exposure to the South Korean music industry, I’m sure it would have taken me much longer to accept my truth.
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Troons that name themselves after fictional characters always make me laugh but this chick who named herself Trevor, after the guy from GTA V who's a meth addicted murderer, canonically a cannibal and also hinted at sexually assaulting someone is absolutely hilarious kek. At this point, cosplaying should be considered a sign of mental illness.
the poop stain to hide her soft face
this shit pisses me off. first of all the majority of male kpop idols do not wear make up or dress particularly feminine outside of music videos and performances. most of them are probably raging misogynists and conservatives and being actually gay, bisexual or remotely feminine in your day to day life is not treated with any respect and you can even lose your career for it. it’s actually so annoying that girls are realising that it’s “okay” to be feminine (in a trans way) from watching random men dress feminine for a cheque.
kpop idols are not for the most part challenging gender roles in any meaningful way in korea because it’s basically accepted as the norm to dress like that in the industry.
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Now compare her with the actual Trevor
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sadly the trevor bit seems to part of some LARP cosplay she does(she to do a lot of other cosplays), picel seems to be how she really presents herself
even then I can tell exactly the look she's going for with the song choices and appearance, the misunderstood, angry(but not in a toxic
way), long haired small town rocker, its the type of guy she probably had a crush on growing up but she never had the guts to talk to them and so now she's "becoming the bf" https://firstname.lastname@example.org/video/7036865846509145391?is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v1https://email@example.com/video/7039463950974471470?is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v1https://firstname.lastname@example.org/video/7029679964211580206?is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v1
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how to say your a retarded overly-online white girl without directly saying it
Funny thing is she ain't even the first Trevor skinwalker I've seen. This other troon actually legally changed her name to Trevor and got at least one of his optional in-game tattoos done kek (unfortunately I found that girl before I found lolcow though and I can't remember any of her usernames). And yeah, what >>1389751
said, basically. These kinda girls are often very sheltered, they've never met the bad boy they wanted to fix so they became the bad boy they wanted to fix. They haven't had enough irl experience to understand that their coveted bad boys usually have the emotional depth of a puddle.
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Love going through IG stories to see stupid shit like this posted by my friends. I don’t think she’s she one that scribbled it, but the pandering is still fucking cringe and annoying to see as a woman that doesn’t hate herself lol
Fair enough. I don't think it's specifically drug dealers, but I think it could extend to any absolute piece of shit scrote.>>1389832
Kek I never said that. I just think that women's behavior wrt moufs is heavily influenced by the patriarchy. That doesn't mean latching onto shitty moids isn't a mistake, it just explains it a little imo. Are you that excited by the prospect of blaming women for something, though?
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I get the look she's trying to go for, I know cause I'm attracted to the same type of guy she is
she probably thinks that she's just like her crushes just cause she's skinny, has a mullet and no distinguishing curves but there's one crucial difference, she's actively trying and making actual effort to look like that, with editing and posing, meanwhile a guy just looks this this is just "are", they make no effort at all
Nah, she’s feminine and girly and goes by she/her, but she puts it in her bio bc handmaiden shit >>1389845
I agree that menstrual is fine, it’s the context of crossing out feminine and literally writing “trans rights!” like the right to use different words for period products is even remotely a problem. My bad if it came across more aggro about that
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Kek it seems like she's trying to skinwalk the bully from Stranger Things. They really get their idea of what men are like from fiction, don't they?
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this is kind of interesting, i think. old thread on aarinfantasy (a once popular yaoi forum) where a bunch of straight women discuss whether or not they'd want to be a yaoi character. lots (so far) classify themselves as either 'ukes' or 'semes'. https://aarinfantasy.com/forum/f28/t96480-question-for-straight-girls.html
i think it's all kind of endearing in a way. but also. lmao
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Need an account to access that site but I think I get what the girl in screenshot you posted is trying to say
she's a straight girl whose attracted to men but doesn't wanna perform arbitrary femininity and there's the wrong with that, cause that's the natural evolutionary state for women i.e to be attracted to males without either make up, uncomfortable clothing and garments
I've always viewed Yaoi as just a coping mechanism, though when certain girls read too much they eventually become coom brained and eventually troon out
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>>1390318>Need an account
woops, didn't realize that when i shared the link.
but you're spot on, quite a few are voicing the idea that female sexuality is just too limiting/unsatisfying.
>>1390320>Some Fujo brain rotted femcoomer will be a children's school teacher
That's a grim thought
but she did make half good points, she's uncomeatable with her body and think that her features are inherently "less", she'd rather imagine herself as some impossibly feminine uke rather then a woman
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samefag but i searched for myself, i hope she's doing better now
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This might be a controversial to certain radfems but I've always believed that a lot of these girls just need to find understanding boyfriends, I feel potential aydenism would decrease by 70% if they got good bf's
it's controversial but it's the sad truth. we as a society put so much worth on being desirable to men that when we are not deemed desirable, we think we are failed women or simply ugly, unattractive and hideous monsters. see: the minimal twinge of sadness i feel when women complain about being hit on by men when i have never received a single shred of male attention. i used to id as nonbinary on the internet, thank god never irl, but i still feel completely invisible and that certain aspects of womanhood just don't apply to me because i'm so utterly unfuckable to the male gaze. but unlike aidens i don't identify out of womanhood (anymore) because class consciousness and wanting liberation for all women is more important than a single person's fee-fees. but i still wished someone made me feel attractive every once in a while kek
and of course there's tons of extremely attractive women who troon out to escape being so extremely desired by men. you can only lose as a woman.
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That's the thing. our attraction towards males and need for companionship is natural, its part of us, weather you choose to remain celibate or embrace it one can't ignore that it we can't ever ignore that it is part of us
What's unnatural is the male desire for plasticized human sex dolls, men's modern desires are what's unnatural not our attraction
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I'm still going through it, but it's nice to see most of these women didn't troon out. They either came to terms with what they were, or accepted that they can't simply identify out of womanhood.
you know what? that's totally true. all the female characters in that game are really good. it's kind of pathetic though, the characters that get transed the most are zagreus and thanatos, the two gay characters they're most attracted to because they're all closet fujos
sage for absolute zero contribution to the thread i just really wanted to rant about this shit
I'm happy for her. These feelings of inadequacy have a big impact on people, and I'm glad she has found a partner that doesn't shit on her interests and loves her. It's so significant to just find a bf/gf that appreciates you. It's one thing when the zoomer babyfujos troon out, but the old school fujos? Kind of a doompill.>>1390707>Why do women only like stupid jerks who treat them like shit?
That's who she sounds like. Absolute topkek
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she draws herself with tits, perhaps the pronouns are a cosmetic/rp thing for her
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I don't think transitioning and the behaviors of trans people will go away, but I do think that we're going to slowly forget the current prevailing narrative of the trans movement, which imo is one of the most harmful parts of it. Unfortunately, we won't forget the narrative because it's a bad narrative. We'll forget it because it will no longer be needed.
There's a lot of conflicting gender ideology, but I think I can safely characterize the mainstream woke trans narrative as such: >Everybody has an internal gender identity that is correlated with but also completely separate from their sex. This gender identity is entirely self-identified and has nothing to do with a person's gender expression.
(If you want to read more, check out the criticism of the "genderbread person" model of gender on sjwiki. http://sjwiki.org/wiki/Genderbread_person
The wiki is incredibly barebones overall, but despite that, there's a massive section criticizing this model. It's pretty much the most coherent and consistent popular sex =/= gender model, but many trans people still fly into a rage about it because it states that sex exists and because it's not inclusive enough of genderfluid people. (Specifically, the genderbread person allows for gender identities that are a combination of 0-100% man and 0-100% woman. However, there's no axis for how much in 'flux' these identities may be, or for genders that are neither man nor woman nor both nor neither (???), which is exclusionary of genderfluid people and therefore extremely problematic
Most concisely, the Twitter idea of gender seems to mostly be how you conceptualize your own personality and role in society, regardless of how society views you.
blah blah blah.
Anyways, this narrative in which one has an internal gender identity that is mostly (if not completely) separate from your sex absolutely cannot last in its current form. It's blatantly contradictory, and even the most lukewarm, somewhat old-school truscum narrative of "people being born in the wrong body" seems obviously untrue with the current wave of trans people, who don't seem to be able to behaviorally pass. Most "gender critical" (or whatever) people that I know arrived there because they either observed predatory male behavior from one too many transwomen, or they met one too many hilariously meek and effeminate fakebois. The majority of both mtf and ftm recent transitioners have a bizarre idea of how to perform their desired gender that's largely informed by coomer and/or children's media.
(A common trans talking point is that trans people are held to a higher standard of "behaviorally passing" than "cis" women. While I do think it's true to some degree, I maintain that most online trans people would fail to meet the most generously low standards.)
This narrative of people "being" trans or cis will slowly fade into the background. It's the natural conclusion of a super fuzzy ideology that ultimately boils down to "let people do what they want with their bodies, let people wear whatever, let people include themselves in whatever group they want to be included in, and force those groups to include them." I think the group of "womanhood" is already eroded beyond repair amongst liberals and most leftists. Children are growing up in societies with an ever-increasing proportion of trans people, and some of them pass reasonably well. They will only pass more well as time progresses. Eventually, there actually will be enough trans people that the average person genuinely wouldn't be able to tell a natal male from a natal female, as they would never have been exposed to the true differences between them as they were growing up. Though the basic tenets of trans ideology don't currently align with reality, at this rate, we will create a society in which you actually cant
assume what somebody will eventually choose to present as based on their sex, since we're forcibly decoupling sex and gender.
Of course, sex differences are obvious once puberty starts kicking in. The conclusions of the previous paragraph are predicated on us having the technology to more convincingly alter sex characteristics, society allowing people to drastically alter their appearances at a young age, and medicine no longer restricting "gender-affirming" care whatsoever. I think all three of these things are not all that far away.
Altering your appearance to look more or less like a certain gender will become commonplace. Initially, an industry will spring up to support top surgery for ftms and mtfs without requiring any trans diagnosis or anything. This is the sort of thing trans activists are pushing for the British NHS to cover right now. Their stated reasoning is that the gatekeeping process is simply too long and difficult to navigate, but their proposed solutions would eliminate any and all requirements to get this surgery beyond simply wanting it. (I think this is intentional to a degree.) Some private healthcare offices in the US are already leaning into this. Different doctors will hold themselves to different ethical standards regarding what operations they'll do, much the way it is with cosmetic plastic surgery today. For example, the most morally upstanding non-corrective cosmetic plastic surgeons believe that what they're doing ultimately helps their patients by helping their self-esteem and helping them live up to their self-image, despite the fact that the hundreds of nosejobs and double eyelid surgeries that they carry out obviously contribute to and help maintain toxic
beauty standards. On the other hand, unethical plastic surgeons will give a male KKK-sized tit implants and 50 ccs of lip fillers. Doctors currently giving 16 year-olds mastectomies are undeniably butchers, but this is already becoming normalized, and the medical community will soon see a safer, more-reversible version of this procedure as a good thing. Just as cosmetic surgery was more of a taboo in the 90's and widely accepted today, "gender-affirming" care and operations will likely be commonplace and completely elective in the next decades.
This isn't completely a negative, as procedures will likely become more easily reversible as time goes on. The greatest argument against youth transitioning is that they might be permanently altering their bodies only to regret it later. When this is no longer the case, there's no longer a real argument against an individual modifying their body in such a way. After all, nobody gives a fuck when teens dye their hair or get piercings nowadays.
When everybody is gender non-conforming in some way, gender and gender non-conformity won't really mean anything anymore. Your claimed gender and gender presentation will be given barely any more thought than we currently give to the way in which you choose to style yourself. The transitional period (that we're currently in) would be super rough societally. There'd be problems created by this, of course. People who can't afford these procedures would be looked down upon. Choosing not to get these surgeries would be seen as almost as much of a choice as radically altering your body. (I honestly believe males choosing to remain traditionally masculine would be especially stigmatized.)
And honestly? I don't think that would be all too bad. I do have some attachment to my female body, but I think I could let go of it and start taking T and get roided up so I can more reasonably defend myself. Hell, by the time I'd consider this, there'd probably be easy and cheap ways to gain male levels of muscle mass without getting other male sex characteristics. Maybe I'll even live long enough to try out a fully-functional penis.
tl;dr getting gender surgeries is going to be a thing from now on. fujos won't necessarily believe that they are metaphysically a man like they do currently, but they will get top surgery and use he/him pronouns just because they can.
I'm not sure. I checked her Twitter and she surprisingly doesn't list any trans crap or pronouns in her top header but in the video I linked here >>1390708
, she refers to herself as a "small boy" and "king" so she might be trying (and failing) to do the stealth thing? >>1390864
I can kinda hear it lol I was honestly thinking she sounds more like a wannabe Tara Strong Dill Pickles voice when she voiced him in the Rugrats spinoff All Grown Up lol.
all I'm hearing is Tara Strong's Ben 10 Voice >>1390932>she refers to herself as a "small boy" and "king" so she might be trying (and failing) to do the stealth thing?
Of course, they can't be regular men
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>>1390928>Maybe I'll even live long enough to try out a fully-functional penis.
why? Curiosity? Also. What you described sounds hellish.
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"Xenofeminism" tranny accelerationism will never work because the end goal is not possible. Nor should it be desirable, sorting people with transition between "bottom" and "top" genders is something only a porn sick mind could conceive of or want. You need to mature outside of your conditioning. You will never have the dense bones that could survive a blow from a natal male, no matter what vanity muscles you build on T. All those roided up scrawny manlets you currently see on /fit/ as transformation success stories don't have functional strength. Fetishists on /D/ are already bored of futa and are on to more extreme, humiliating bodily transformations, so the demand and financial incentive to troon for low status males (and females!) will wane. Extreme plastic surgery is already getting blow back. Women wear less makeup and are getting away from the drag queen style just to separate themselves from ugly troons. Fillers now seem to cause bone loss where they sit on the face. Breast and buttock implants gather a shell of thick scar tissue around the implant that need to be sawed through to remove. Even Kim K got her ass removed. I bet you think you're really smart because you have the stamina to write out in full your nonsense. The logic you hinge everything on is so out of touch with reality that it is amusing. I hope you're young and have a chance to get back in touch with reality because I pity you.
Kinda off-topic, but the image you added incredibly repulsed me. I wish I never laid eyes on it. I need bleach. Porn-sick men continue to disgust me with their degeneracy.>>1390928
Your troon views on plastic surgery and your future projections on it are incredibly idealized. There will never be medically consequence-free and fully reversible surgeries that will allow one to perfectly and fully imitate biological aspects of the opposite sex.
Go back to /pol moid>>1390928
Take your meds
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Some FtMs literally just seem like extreme heterosexual women to me. Like male worship to the core
>>1391230>my fiancé called me handsome
Big fucking deal, just because it's used towards men most of the time that doesn't make it a compliment that is exclusive
to men. My wife calls me handsome all the time, still female though. Aidens get "euphoric" over the most minor and weird things. It's amusing to read those threads as opposed the absolute horror show threads of what makes male troons "euphoric".
>>1391785>fujoshis don't hurt gay men
Tell that to the gay men who have to deal with psychotic trans mutants on Grindr who rant about the "boxer ceiling" being a thing.
The whole thing is cancer, either way. Don't try to make excuses for it.
Being braindead, drooling enablers is how we ended up in this shitshow with mtfs to begin with, nona.
Give literally any troon an inch and they'll later try and rip out a mile from you.
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Why can't TIFs ever draw males right, look at those waistlines, those breasts and curvy bodies
seriously they draw males as pseudo-females
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Samefag but I just realized this is Johnny Test fanart. How autistic do you have to be to make shit like this?
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>>1391840>How autistic do you have to be to make shit like this?
autistic enough to call herself a "alt femboy" when looking like just any other random frumpy girl
what's weird is she also draws her self-insert getting pegged sometimes, but most of the times "it" gets fucked by regular dudes
does that mean she's Bi or something ?
Modern fujoshi are largely about shipping rather than porn (especially in the west). The most popular series among twitter fujos are primarily joseimuke, games that usually have a female MC and no canon BL (which is hilarious to me as someone who got introduced to this whole thing over Togainu no Chi). This birthed a rivalrly between female fans that enjoy hetero ships and those that enjoy BL, on jp twitter the two sides basically don't interact aside mocking each other. This got slowly reflected in the west where you have a similar division (4chan fujos calling anyone else "hetfags" and twitter users mocking "the straights").
So when a modern twitter Ayyden opens her feed she will usually see a bunch of male characters she is attracted to having normal human interactions, a lot of talk about queerness and inclusivity and memes like "the female character is just there caring for her gay babies so they can get married in peace". On top of that, porn became frowned upon in such circles because most characters are teenagers. Therefore the messaging they get is>I like men and porn of men>but that's bad! I'm a creep>I am not a stereotype, I am a unique individual so I must be non-binary or trans>if I was a man I wouldn't be a creepy hettie, I would be desirable
as a former Fujoshi I massively disagree with you, especially regarding the porn aspect
I remember is that in the past ships were less "diverse" in the sense that only the hot 2 male main characters would shipped but now people start shipping characters who have never met and one was a fat middle aged man, take >>1391835
as an example
Also its gotten way more raunchier and disgusting, like new fetishes getting invented everyday
Honestly this is just a an obvious result of frying your brain with porn
>>1392029>Also its gotten way more raunchier and disgusting, like new fetishes getting invented everyday
, those were a thing as well if you look at certain games and manga. A lot of fanwork "proof" from the old days has just been deleted because of people scrubbing their accounts, the VN nukige scene influenced BL titles too and in the west I remember a creepy HxH shotacon community on livejournal over a decade ago. But nowadays the mainstream audience for fan content is teens and young adults who do sfw exclusive stuff, like that controversy with zoomers banning anyone who has ever done porn from their zine.
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from the mom group i’m in. maybe people “misgender” you bc you’re a female married to a man and have a child that you birthed. just a guess.
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Take your pills schizo
this is true, i do think SJW culture is another aspect of why most fujoshi become trans-identified now. why be a boring privileged straight woman that fetishizes a minority when you could be a cool, oppressed, "gay" "twink" "transman" who draws "queer representation" artwork?>>1391805
i'm pretty sure that anon was referring to the fujoshi who know they are women and just like anime, some of them do tend to be fag hags but they also know what "gay man" means unlike ayden TIFs. i've read fucked up rapey posts from TIFs who talk about rape-by-deception things like giving head at gay male glory holes, but the average SJW zoomer would be too prudish to go that far, so i think those modern day lou sullivan types aren't as common (while the inverse is true for the TIMs). feel free to correct me if i'm wrong
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what the fuck is up with the anatomy in her art
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What’s up with female they/he’s and looking like they stink? Is it the glued pubic hair to their dewlap?
Completely disregarding that massive spergout, I hate
the idea that biological sex is like some slider in a video game character creator or something like how it is displayed in the picture, that's how you get women and girls feeling like they're "less female" for not looking and acting like a porn caricature and trooning out because they think there's something wrong with them for not naturally wanting to spend hours making themselves fit within beauty standards. I wish fakebois would understand that you either are female or you aren't and there's no "grey area" with being born female that needs to be medicalized and treated with hormones and unnecessary procedures.
it's a symptom of people pushing "sex is a construct" or "sex is a spectrum", when that's not true. phenotypes
have a broad range of traits, but that doesn't make females who are born with broad shoulders or big hands etc "more towards male" on the "spectrum". we need to go back to teaching sex is about developed gametes, not solely chromosomes or physical characteristics (those are just an aspect), because i noticed it's pushed a lot of people into gender confusion
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She sounds like Moral Orel
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I personally hope that r/Short to be taken over by FTMs, it would be fucking hilarious
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Checked out the chick who posted that last thread (https://www.reddit.com/user/SalWeston
) and she's seriously fucking crazy. If you want a good drinking game, read her post history and take a shot every time you see the word "cock". I might catch heat for this but I genuinely believe she's bisexual. I've been through that self-hating lesbian "omg I have dissfouria!!!" phase and I never met any other self-hating lesbians who were that
unhinged and obsessed about having a cock. It's fucking weird. I'd feel sorry for her if she wasn't a retard who thinks dressing butch and liking certain things cancels out your sex and makes you a man.
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This is one weird mother motherfucker, her moid larp is pretty good.
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I keep deleting and reposting because I'm a retard and keep fucking up
and you're absolutely right about her being pornsick. She talks about vids of men masturbating citing that women love it and sounds very enthusiastic about it. The sheer amount of times she brings up dick definitely makes it seem like she's interested in men, even if out of curiosity. Maybe her psychosis about being a man runs so deep she represses those urges? It's hard to tell. The stuff she says about men and women fitting together though is exactly what I used to say when I was self-loathing so there's also a genuine attraction to women there I'm sure. She's most likely bi but the problem with pornsickness is that these people will watch just about anything. They're like animals.
Welcome to the club, nonny
. I used to feel sorry for them too. As a butch lesbian who considered trooning out I thought I was similar to them… until I talked to some and saw the shit they post online. I wish GNC women (and women in general) would stop getting suckered in by these freaks. They are not like us and they wouldn't extend a shred of concern our way as we're evil terfs to them. Fuck 'em, they made their bed and now they gotta lie in it.
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Don't know what the original post was because it's deleted but it seems she also wants to scare women?
Who said I wanted to protect them from anything? I thought they were self hating lesbians trying to cope. I felt sorry for their struggle but I wasn't going to do anything about it, weirdo. Now I can see it's not a struggle at all, just a pornsick larp they want everyone to play along with so they can coom. They're to straight women exactly what TiMs are to lesbians: predatory pornsick freaks that no one wants.>>1392887
Yeah I can see that now. They're nothing like butches and lumping them in with you ladies is shitty. Fuck TiFs and drop the T.
>>1392872>He's satisfying himself with her
Someone should tell her that sex where the guy doesn't give a fuck about your pleasure and just pistons in and out of you until he cums isn't very fun. Straight women don't date guys because
of that, it's something they put up with of they're attracted to him enough.
Straight women don't care solely about cock, they're just attracted to a man's body in general. They like tallness, broad shoulders, square jaw, etc. TIFs aren't getting rejected just because they have no cock, they're getting rejected because they lack most
conventionally sexy male traits.>>1392880
I don't have a ton of pity for them because I'm a fujoshi and I have to deal with them screeching at me and my friends for ~sexualizing poor gay men like me uwu~ on a regular basis. Internalized misogyny is one thing, but TIFs often extend that to women besides just themselves, hence their propensity to mimic toxic
male rhetoric. TIFs and tradthots are two sides of the same coin.
I only ever feel sorry for TIFs on an individual basis– like if that particular person is decent and just got groomed or molested. Typically these are really young TIFs who are "non-binary" or whatever. The longer they're in the cult, the more toxic
they tend to get. Some people are also just assholes from the get-go.
This. The idea that sex requires a penis, and that women get off primarily to men using their bodies for pleasure, is 100% a moid fantasy. They use it to excuse all the bad/shitty sex they put women through, i.e. "she can't get enough of my cock!" while the woman lays there watching the clock and waiting for the jackhammering to stop. EVERY straight woman has experienced this, yet this TIF thinks they know what they like better than they do. She's either a moid, or so pornsick she has adopted the worldview of one. Sad! Many such cases.>>1392950
I feel like people who make this claim haven't had really good strap sex. If you do it right, both parties get off and it feels amazing.
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>>1392833>My body is a tiny useless piece of shit worth literally nothing with no value or purpose whatsoever. It has no meaning and neither does my life. I’m so small I feel like I don’t exist. Every single man on earth has more to offer than me by just existing. Despite my job, house, car etc. I want to fucking kill myself. I know I’m not the only one with these feels, what do I do, don’t want to relapse on heroin but that’s definitely the route it’s looking like. Can’t talk to my friends. Don’t know where to turn>No, she does not feel anything even remotely close or near to scratching the surface of what she feels when her body has completely connected, intertwined and combined physically with another, two puzzle pieces designed to fit perfectly together by god, linking and exchanging eachothers insides, hot firey rampant passionate needful life pumping inside of her; from a cold lifeless rubber monstrosity>Two holes will never go together, she will never feel full of my life>Now, add not having a cock. Look, youve entered into the realm where suicide is absolutely the only viable option.
Look, I don't want to feel bad for the coombrained try-hard fakeboi, but this is horrible and the self-hate is ridiculous
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Here's what she looks like, she still looks like a woman >>1392885>well it's safe to say she's never had sex. this is some nerd virgin girl shit. also incredibly self-hating
well she admits it herself in her post she says "I’ll never know what sex is like"
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Anons please stop feeling bad for this person, it's embarrassing. The whole account is fetish porn. Nobody writes dissertations about hot, throbbing cock due to "dysphoria." They are getting off to this dumb shit. Case in point.
>>1392956>incel moid roleplay
lmfao obviously fake, gender brain is obviously a real thing but not opposite gender brain. Granted males are "the default" it's easier for the average woman to larp as one than the average man larping as an avergae girl, but that doesn't mean one can be good at larping>>1393142
She got me this once kek. Until the context is given i thought that looks like a man in first glance
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I was on Instagram earlier and American McGee (of 'American McGee's Alice' fame) is either pozzed or likes money, judging by this ugly, 2000s deviantArt tier design for a new plushie he's making.
The comments are full of fat Aidens and she/theys with names like 'ash_sm0lbean' and 'flowercrown_shyboy'.
I do like that he's somehow managed to capture the haunted, regretful look in the bunny's eyes, but I think it needs tit scars.