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This is a series of threads about fakebois and trans-identified females (TIFs).
Fakebois are girls who pretend to be boys, either by becoming trannies or larping biological males (usually the former) Trans-identified females who are serious in their transition (a la Kalvin Garrah) are relevant too, so are their surgeries.
Fakebois style and present themselves as androgynous or feminine-looking boys, or wearing girls' clothing and make-up while insisting on being addressed with he/him (or occasionally they/them) pronouns and take great offense at being gendered as female. Some are SJW transactivists, but for most their identities are entirely superficial.
Back off all trannies and your dysphoria because no1curr.
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She has a podcast about musically drama from 2017 now with another TIF and a seemingly normal jewish girl. it's honestly fun to listen to if you can forget the fact shes Kalvin Garrah. https://youtube.com/c/CalmAfterTheStormPodcast/videos
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Kek jesus she looks like she detransitioned, is she still pretending to be a straight man while looking like this
Tinfoil but she is/will warm up to terf
rhetoric and want to detransition but will be too stubborn to admit it. Going against the enbies like she used to do is something at least. The contrast of how muh dysphoria she used to be and how she even managed to more or less pass and actually work on her voice so it wouldn't be the clockable froggy T voice Vs how she looks now with zero effort to look like a man… Makes me wonder.
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So this is something I came across, not directly about TIFs but its related to the mindset TIFs have, its a research blog about shotacon subculture and the women(and men) who engage in it, both in Japan and outside, and when you read some of confessions by self admitted shotacons, its eerily similar to the mindset you see from most TIFs. https://shotaology.com/2021/07/27/the-ontology-of-the-boy-or-what-are-little-boys-made-of/>The Ontology of the Boy, or: What are little boys made of?>In the introduction to the book Kono shota ga sugoi (このショタがすごい！) from 1997, Shindōji Gun (真道寺軍) opens with this provocative question:>What are little boys made of?>The question evokes so many thoughts. At first, I think about the boy’s body. Like the rest of us, boys are made up of flesh and blood, bones and organs. But just by spelling this out, I realise what a bad answer it is. Of course boys are made of the stuff that makes all of us. Disgusting stuff that I don’t want to see. So why is the boy so great (or “sugoi”) when he’s made of the same things as the rest of us? Is it the composition of these things – the proportions in which the bones are held together? Is it the youthful lustre of the thin layer of skin that so perfectly wraps around the stuff we don’t want to see? Being so concrete about the answer makes me realise that what the question really asks is this:
>What is the magic of boys?>That question has been asked before in shota research. In 1996, Manda Ringo phrased it like this in the shota survey published in her book The Syotaroh:>Where does the magic of the boy reside?”>Popular answers included “smooth legs”, “thin limbs”, “beautiful face”, and “youthful skin”, but the number one answer, as entered independently by 13 respondents, was junsuisa (純粋さ), which can be translated as “purity” or “innocence”. This is something far more abstract than the physical attributes. It is something that is hard or maybe even impossible to grasp, and thus it is denoted as “magic”. But maybe one can try by way of examples. The introduction in Kono shota ga sugoi follows an illustration where the same question is posed – twice for impact:
>Boys, what are they made of?>Boys, what are they made of?>Ray guns and spacecrafts,>what’s more, robot monsters,>What a wonderful anything goes!>Kono shota ga sugoi, p. 3
>The text reads like a poem, and maybe poetry is the only way one can close in on questions about magic.>The continuous outpour of books and dōjinshi discussing shota reflects a will among shota fans to understand themselves. Like few other genres, shota seems to create a curious reflexivity among its readers, who are more diverse than readers of other comics. Women and men, young and old, straight, gay and bi, ask themselves: What is the magic of the boy?>In academic terminology, one might talk about the ontology of the boy, as a way to try to capture his very being. The passionate production of shota dōjinshi provides a unique chance to close in on this transient ontology called Boy: How old is he? (Twelve!) What does he look like? What hobbies does he have? Of course there are many answers depending on personal taste, but taken together, the expressions in these dōjinshi make up an important databank devoted to an ideal that never lets itself be captured, and which therefore keeps engaging us.
so maybe this is why so many TIFs even when they are well into their 30's have a desire to be boys rather then men, an obsession with the eternal youthful boy
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I was lurking through Bob the Drag Queen’s troon boyfriend’s IG and wow.
Spoiler for drawing for frankenclit
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I can almost relate to what what said, not ever being a shotacon rather those experiences of both wanting to be a boy and also kinda believing you could be one, when your a kid the physical differences between sexes isn't drastic, for me boys were just girls who wore pants and had short hair, so the idea of "becoming" a boy didn't seem outlandish as a kid , but when you start entering puberty the differences between boys and girls starts becoming a reality, suddenly every male you know is now a foot taller then you and while their bodies are getting harder your getting softer and dealing with changes you don't know how to deal with, you become feminized and you permanently lose that opportunity to ever be a boy, I can almost see that as being a trauma that effects certain women and the way they cope is trying to become boys in adulthood
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She kind of looks like she wants to skinwalk as pete davidson
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anon do you have face blindness
this type of shit makes me question my bisexuality because the words boy pussy
make me want to fucking vomit
It's a long time since I saw the video but from what I remember there was no argument or anything, Kalvin didn't know her and just liked her music but cavetown is/was one of those "tucute" troons (I think?) so she banned Garrah for? Idk, tranny reasons. Allegedly gave security a picture of her so they knew to be on the lookout for Kalvin too kek.>>1565853
AYRT and yeah, you're right. She kept saying "giving" and I couldn't understand it but then I remembered how girls with RPDR brainrot talk and it's exactly like that. She also seemed weirdly obsessed with Judaism in typical fakeboi style.
I'm gnc, and back during my troon phase it was baffling as fuck to see all these girls with pubestaches wearing glitter eye makeup and sexy bikinis. I was under the impression that all TiFs transitioned so society would tolerate them being unfeminine/lesbian, but clearly I was wrong.
My tinfoil/theory is that most of these fakebois aren't really gnc, they're just wearing baggy/unfeminine clothes to escape from internalized misogyny. Once they've transitioned far enough that their internalized misogyny no longer bothers them (bc they've convinced themselves that they're "male" and that society sees them that way), they feel like they're free to become the pretty princess they always wanted to be.
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reminds me of politepuppetm she's also a shotacon who identifies as some transshit, she draws so much porn of young cartoon boys with adult women
this seems like a very roundabout way of saying that you're a pedo tbf
even if you're some geek who goes all squeee
at cutesy anime characters, it's still weird.
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Why are so many TiFs obsessed with cowboys? Is there a study on this?
The irony of workshy lardasses idealising a job that involves a lot manual labour never fails to make me kek. >>1566026
This plus that Orville Peck guy and I think RDR2 kinda
played a part as well to an extent. I remember being on tumblr when it came out and suddenly a lot of the softbois became ruff and tuff cowfolx overnight, it was fucking weird.
cowboy aesthetic is super in right now with gays>>1566184
which is very interesting since i've seen many, many gay men cite brokeback mountain as an important work that they love. no one yells about women fetishizing the gays or cares about "fujos" except other women who probably just hate their own fetishes.
Sage your posts
I have some answers/theories:
1)Like it has been discussed before, a lot of Tifs try to present themselves as ugly as possible, on a way to avoid getting identified as female and get sexually harrased. The thing is, on TRA circles, the label "nonbinary" is often presented as a way to break norms, and since these girls present themselves in such visually unappealing or unconventional way, it's seen as more appropiate.
2)They want the attention of being not like the others girls. Being trans is like being a perpetual victim
and thereford special. However, they don't want to deal with the effects of testosterone (Balding, frog voice, etc.), and even less with the process of having a fake dick, and probably die on said process. Meanwhile, the term nonbinary has such a wide and yet nonexistent meaning, that it doesn't even require being androgynous or using new pronouns anymore, so they can just slap the label on themselves, not change anything about their life styles, and still being accepted as such.
3)Usually men transition for 2 reasons: Porn brainrot (Meaning that their goal is to look like the women they are attracted to, and not being a genderblob, that's why they often draw themselves are cute/sexy anime girls despite looking like ghouls and while there are TiFs who draw themselves as pretty anime boys, many also draw themselves as ugly goblings even if they can pass as average looking people) or due to homophobia (Many parents prefer to have a castrated kid and called it a straight daughter than having a gay son. These are often transsed from a very young age and come from less gay accepting countries like Thailand. So their goal is to be straight instead of being women. This can also apply to lesbians on similar conditions)
4)There are a few nonbinary males, the already mentioned Ezra Miller or Haplo Schaffer (The first NB male I knew about), but their thing is either rooted on narcissism (Wanting to be more special than the average person) or trying to present themselves as "Not like other guys", thereford as "non threatening progessive soft boys" so they can prey on girls.
I hope this makes sense.
Wow thanks for the answer, seems more clear now
I do think those "nonbinary" girls or obviously feminine TIFs just want to be aside from the "women" group and therefore aside from sexualization/discrimination while never actually changing anything
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Troon issues, and high school girl antics kek
Ryan also started a tucute podcast, Brenemies, and became very close friends with the former dangerhaired multiple pronouns woman Brennan, who Kalvin made a video making fun of a few years ago.
In their minds:>Women wearing makeup, pink, and high heeled shoes = boring, basic, and shallow>Men wearing makeup, pink, and high heeled shoes = subversive, sexy, unique, and ~kweer~
They felt ashamed for liking those things as women because they wanted to be "not like other girls," but changed their tunes the second they found a ~unique~ pretext for enjoying them.
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a twitter thread where enbyes and feminine aydens at least acknowledge the fact that guys who fuck them still view them as women
one particular comment I found kinda ironic >the real issue here is cishet men seeing afab nb people as quirky cisgender women
which is the actual reality, they are nothing more then quirky straight women https://twitter.com/thrilllmonger/status/1536478589876576256
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Spoilered for boobs. I saw this one on the other farms and jesus. Part of me finds humor in how some of these TiFs turn the tables on what TiMs do to lesbians, but at the same time I find the general homophobia fucked up. Trans people really are their own worst enemy with this shit, they’ve completely ostracized themselves from the rest of the community and for good reason. It’s just being told who to fuck conversion therapy style in a new way.
stated, she does almost look a 14-15 year old boy, so its very much possible could gay men would hit on her fully believing she's an underage male
Trans win! Local fakeboi gets validation by pedophilic men!
All jokes aside, do you think there are women who will capitalize off of this to get that trans validation? I already know there are men who fuck aidens as a "loophole" for being a pedo because some of them look like little boys.
Agreed. There's some flamboyant dudes that just want to boink anything, doesn't mean they're gay. And I think she's lying there's too many videos of men wanting her on her page to be believable.
Also not that it matters but that tiktoker came out as lesbian in 2019 and has several videos talking about men and wanting to be perceived as a gay man. Posting a video of like an 8-ball text generator asking if she's going to marry a man and it says ofc and then she asks if she's going to marry a woman and it says never lol. The jokes right themselves. I hate these people.
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Then what is a man?
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A new animated fakeboi show just premiered on Netflix.
>>The series follows a young, trans, Jewish teen named Barney who leaves his house to live and work at an amusement park while finding a chosen family along the way.
>>Hamish Steele describes this as not just being simple representation, describing it as “meant to be in the structure and the bones of the show.” This kind of animated program that navigates the toughness and joys of being trans and finding a chosen family as each character is going through their own issues.
You think that since they have their canon fakeboi they'll keep their shitty trans headcanons away from the actually good male characters?
Yeah me either. One can dream…
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The show was made by a man and the art is ugly so it isn't that popular.
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Looks like Garrett Watts…
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I think this is the most unfortunate and ugly body shape I have seen on a TIF yet.
and of course this is aimed at children…>>1569678
the scar on the arm looks horrific. like this is really sad. i'm not sure where these pics are from, but is it ok to post nude photos of people here? maybe helps educate people on the realities of GRS, but it's also a privacy violation. kinda reminds me of bullying using revenge porn… especially the type of comments responses these posts usually get. with nonas mocking the looks of that person. when really it's just sad to see what people do to themselves.
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KEK just saw this hilarious take on this show. At least they're willing to admit that most fakebois are just pudgy women with unflattering alt hairstyles
I was hesitant to post at first because of the medical gore, never thought people would object to the nude part because my mind didn't even parse any part of the image as sexual in any way lol
The picture is coming from a public reddit community, not stolen or obtained under a false pretense, where this person freely posted to showcase the useless medical mutilations and injected hormones that she chose to inflict on herself in a way that doesn't make her look any closer to a man, things she's not only proud of but that she actively campaigns to see doctors push on even more young mentally ill people as a solution to living in a misogynist society. I don't care at all about her original looks and body, but I do care about the various ways she choose to mutilate herself because it sure hits different after seeing troons cry that people trying to regulate their life saving transition care are TERF
Nazis that should be excluded from polite society to actually seeing what said totally necessary care actually entails (and of course, she has horrifying complications with her arm and urethra). A picture is worth a thousand words etc
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Some are kek. Can’t please them all I guess.
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reminds me of tranny youtuber chase
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In the comic it’s based on, the fakeboi is dating an older hiv+ gay guy. The author is ~polyamorous~ and gives me TIF chaser vibes.
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Apparently she gets surgery at some point during the comic.
Is the fakeboi a gayden, too? kek that is so funny>>1569915
The fixation on titmangle scars reminds me so much of the romanticization of cutting that was present in teenage girls/young women and the media they made in the 2000's-very early 2010's. Troonacy really is just this generation's version of it
kek nonna my sides>>1569897>dating an older hiv+ gay guy.
Wow, this might be actually the most realistic part of the comics, imagine going through transitioning to live your best life as a ~gay man~ to be only able to date the rejects of the gay scene such as an older-than-you ex-manwhore with HIV.
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They deleted this after having their ass handed to them
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Ellen Page's character in the Umbrella Academy got transed. Right at the start of the second episode. The scene was dumb and felt forced. First she reminisces about her lesbian experience and then looks at her own reflection in a barbershop window, goes in, super fucking awkward scene that made me lol, just sitting in the chair and them both saying nothing. Then she just straight up shows up to talk to the other characters with that stupid haircut and the conversation literally goes like this:
>who elected you, Vanya?
>I am. It's who I've always been
And then they all say they're cool with it and it feels so forced that it's almost sarcastic. A look of pure gender euphoria washes over this 5'2'' iron deficient self-hating lesbian's face and the scene goes on like nothing. It was so cringe. Also Vanya is already short for a male name, stupid burgerland writer
Sorry for the potato photo, Netflix won't let you screenshot
How can these people can use psychotic sounding terms like "womb carriers" and still claim to be against misogyny? Surely
at some point they must think "huh, that's not a very nice thing to call women, it's kinda dehumanising"?
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Autistic he/they. I bet you’re right.
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>>1569943>Show starts out with 2 female main characters together with 5 male main characters>Female character A is very gender conforming, hyperfeminine, has relationships with men, always dolled up, her arc constantly revolves around dating/love/men, not very powerful when it comes to her abilities>Female character B is awkward and gender nonconforming, dresses comfortably and plain, is in a lesbian relationship, extremely powerful abilities>Guess which one gets transed
Truly a fantastic message for the target demographic (teenage girls). Like >>1570012
said this is going to age horribly once the tides start to turn.
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People are upset because in the comic the HIV+ boyfriend wanted an open relationship with an ex boyfriend. Not shitting on HIV+ people or clutching my pearls, but isn’t it reckless to write a gay male character who’s positive and wants to be in an open relationship and fuck other people? It most likely won’t be in the cartoon and the characters are older in the comic but people on twitter are pissed.
kek. i love you nonnie
Yes! It's amazing how even with the uber ugly generic art style, the author still managed to capture the essence of the TIF. Wonder if he's low key trolling or just thirsting after FTMs for some fucked up reason.
And also does the TIF in the comic do anything outside of having relationship angst and obsessing about her body issues like a basic chick flick heroine?
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One of the most jarring twitter profiles I’ve seen. A tif larping as a tim…?
I wonder how all the handmaidens and other TRAs are going to pivot when trans shit goes the way of lobotomies. All their glowing praise for 14 year olds getting hormones and surgery, men in women's prisons/sports/bathrooms/etc, conversion therapy rhetoric towards gay men and lesbians is all online and well-documented, it's going to be a lot harder for them to pretend they never championed this shit than it was for lobotomy supporters to. >>1570037
I mean, trans ideology is literally just that woman = decorative sex object meant to get fucked by men, this is perfectly logically consistent by their standards.
Wasn't the chick who faked HIV to write Hamilton high school AUs where he gets AIDs a TiF? If so then it's already happening.>>1570137
Apparently intent is the only thing separating Caricature from Representation.
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Slight detail but I've been staring at this panel trying to figure out what's going on with his left arm… Like is he an amputee or is the artist just that bad at drawing
I think he might like actual dudes too, but clearly not exclusively. I say bi instead of straight since every single TIF fetishist I've ever seen is one, though I suppose straight ones do exist somewhere>>1570360
It's especially funny to see TIF delusions(and their enabler's pandering fantasies) get shattered by reality. I still think about that reddit TIF who went to a gay sex party and spent all night crying the bathroom when no one wanted to fuck her and everyone was clearly uncomfortable with her presence kek>>1570374
Amputee, my guess is to fulfill the cripple section on the diversity checklist. Same reason there's a progressive hijabi character and why her boyfriend has HIV- for the ~good representation~ they bring.
Sage for non-contribution but does anyone else find it funny how little the act like actual men? Every single TIF acts, dresses, types, the same way. They all like the same media, most of which 0 actual men like. Could you imagine being a girl into DSMP or South Park ships or something and concluding that you must be a man because you like to see the skinny white boys kiss?Aren't they even a little self-aware that they are so obviously female, and hardly even GNC in their interests? It's not just that either, it's things like having a Caard that they decorate and list everything about themselves on (or having one at all kek), or using neopronouns. It's such undeniably female behavior. They are all trying so hard to be different that they end up all the exact same (that is, nothing at all like actual men, but certainly like millions of other weird girls). Being trans used to be about saying that you have a male/female brain in the wrong body but apparently they've thrown that away and now just use the circular reasoning of "anyone who thinks that they are a man/woman is one." Not that the trutrans ones are ever any better, they're just more self-conscious and compensating for knowing deep down that they aren't men. Plus, their obsession over trenders is hilarious, as if a real man would spend so much time trying to prove that they are totally manly guise!!! I know that a lot of these girls are children but holy fuck the vitriol with which they attack anyone who goes against their narrative and the institutional support they have garnered is insane. I hope that they grow out of it or that the tide turns as their demands continue to grow more and more ridiculous. They can't live in this fantasy world forever. Praying for this lawsuit wave that you nonnies speak of…
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Little brother making sense
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I love when these girls pretend to be gay men and that the boys they like are now somehow gay for dating them
too much text but I agree Nona, I agree. actual example of this is >>1570523
so funny how she still looks like a woman kek
omfgg This is so depressing lmao I wonder if the cast makes fun of her kek
this bitch will 41% I'm telling you.
>>1570535>what did she mean by this
Troons see lesbians as closeted men thus they see our fashion as "t-boy swag" or w/e the fuck they call it. Most gaydens are bitter because the average butch mogs them, kek.>>1570593
Threatening it to her young sibling too, real nice.
I'm in my earlys 30's too and don't worry this is our space my Nona!, I used to work with tifs too, was horrible but the last year I just got ride of them all when I quit my job (artsy stuff too) by honestly just saying fuck off I'm a TERF
(I'm not one really but that shit is a legit fuck you to them kek) I remember the 2010s too, shit was just starting in Tumblr days, now here we are, living this fucking nightmare lol
I remember when this shit was happening in tumblr. They bullied the gatekeepers and kept crying how they really were trans and started using specific language to make their "tranness" real despite not having dysphoria.
Example, words like "tucute" for people are trans without the dysphoria, and "truscum" for those with. "Scum" and "cute." Gee I wonder which one sounds sexier
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Go on and put her character out of their misery kek
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I hate his art style so much. Low effort tumblr crap.
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I don’t think so, but the author said on twitter that the character is undetectable.
I'm surrounded by TiFs as well and this place is a godsend. So glad I can come hear to laugh at retards and blow off some steam about these crazy girls, has honestly saved me from blowing up at them and screwing myself over.>I remember the 2010s too, shit was just starting in Tumblr days
I was in my late teens as this shit was starting and I actually have to thank a friend I had at the time for saving me from getting swallowed up by this nonsense. Definitely wasn't her intent, no she was all in, but it exposed me to all the bullshit right from the get-go (including the frankenweenies).
Wondering the same myself. From a glance at his profile I would think of a soy gay cartoonist, but from his work it seems he has a fetish for Gaydens. Maybe a depraved bisexual?>>1570879
Kek at that cope. People aren't upset that one of them is positive. It's that the character the audience is supposed to be rooting for is positive while planning to be in one that permits promiscuity. You might as well have him cruising public toilets and dogging on meth.
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me me me me me me! why are we not about me?
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Not quite as self-centered since she is affected by abortion bans, but it's always funny to see these "gay men" girls in subs that are >90% female. Pretty disgusting to see her "worry" over gay marriage and anti-sodomy laws though- girly girl, you never had to worry about this. No one is coming for your straight marriage and PiV sex, even if you imagine yourself as an anime boy during.
fucking idiots - are they really fighting for the idea to make it normal for everyone (read - males) to speak for what's right and wrong for women's bodies
absolutely retarded, can't believe it
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based Lainey Molnar
Kek who drew this?
I recognize the ball with dick meme, but the fact that it's so accurate to that illustrator's style and also parodying the FtM that got a graft that looks like an elephant trunk on her abdomen is wild.
in Germany they cancelled a law today that forbid the "advertising" of abortions (meaning, you weren't even allowed to have medical explanations on your website). One of the first things I saw on twitter today was a politician talking about "humans with uterus" and I've decided that I will call men in the future "humans with prostates". I'm so done with being careful to hurt feelings of very mentally ill people and having to read all this bullshit about "oh, a man can have an uterus, a fly can have an uterus, a dishwasher can have an uterus".
That being said, it makes me very sad what happend in the US and I wish I had the money to fly every woman in need of an abortion over so it could be save for her.
Holy shit she is taller than Ellen… is she gasp
not so "feminine" after all?
Thank you for your responses nonnies! I feel like a big part of my frustration is how similar I am to these girls, because I also identify with the sensitive quirky artist stuff. You would think this would make me more empathetic towards them, but it just frustrates me more because I know where they're coming from––being genuinely attracted to "quirky" things but also wanting to stand out and be NLOG, awkward or lacking self-confidence, shy and not having many friends, and a bleeding-heart creative type.
The biggest one, though, is growing up and becoming attracted to men, (usually male characters who they can project onto more easily) but also relating to them, (usually because the men are more attractive to us physically so we pay better attention to them, and more relatable to awkward teenage girls who don't connect with the gender stereotypes often found in media) and this combined with a negative view of the female position in hetero relationships (divorced parents, "straight is boring," most ships in modern fandoms being M/M, and the genuine shittiness of a lot of them IRL) leads to them projecting entirely onto these male characters, and therefore leading, via way of the social media, to a belief that they can really become their favorite fictional attractive whiteboy.
Growing up my parents didn't let me have social media until a certain age, and in the end, I am really grateful that they did this because the some of the stuff I ended up being into, which, mind you, is never related to troon shit, have fandoms that are legitimately 90%+ genderspecials, and I know that if I had gotten really into having a social media presence and made friends with some of them I would've undoubtedly given in. Seeing how fast these social contagions spread makes me seriously want to ban people from under a certain age from using the internet at all. They are too susceptible to social contagions, and this one hugboxes them and actively tells them to distrust the advice of their parents; it's really a cult.
It is so frustrating that whenever I meet someone IRL who shares my interests they're always one of these people, but I'm glad I'm not one of them. I don't know if it makes me more or less autistic that I don't even fit in into these fandoms of social outcasts living in a fantasy world, but I'd rather not be involved with these people (who are usually walking (self-diagnosed) DSM manuals and are exhausting to be around) and therefore wanting to kill myself because I'll never be a cartoon character and living a lie thinking that one day people will see me as one. It's just that every time I see one of them I want to shake them and ask how they could be so retarded, because I see them as myself if I had been allowed to post on Tumblr when I was 12 or something kek. I'm sorry for the blogpost, I just hope to provide some insight and I hope that some of you can relate…
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People with eggs and people with testicles. Nice Pete was ahead of the times.
You're not the only one nona. I hate that as an awkward ~*neurodivergent*~ quirky artsy type, it's hard to strike friendships with normies, but the artsy circles are so full of exhausting troons and handmaidens that I just completely cannot.
And it's sad to see these quirky artsy tif girls struggle, because while my life now is awesome, I know I could have been one of them if I had chosen differently only a few times. It's like if you're a cyclist and then you meet someone with brain damage from crashing without a helmet.
When do yall predict this troon boom is over? I fully believe it's going to be looked at as the lobotomies of the 2000s, but lobotomies went on for like decades, and the troon industry is worth something like $200 billion, so I'm worried.
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I bet my life savings this has never happened to her female ass
I almost thought I wrote this for a second. I’m at uni and my class is male dominated so I joined an arts and crafts society because I know it would be 100% female. Every session they either talked about how they love HP but hate JKR, how kweer they are (they like rainbows and frogs) and how the professor said something problematic
(because they didn’t give a trigger warning
for the n word during their Classical literature class.) even though this is a hellsite I am glad I have some people to vent to.
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your assuming there aren't plenty of TIF Fujos who aren't aware of that fact and are into it, to finally be shota uke boys just like their yaoi stories and get a daddy to fuck them
Hate to be pessimistic but I don't think it's ending any time soon.
This is going to sound tinfoily but I think both gender shit and the normalization of plastic surgery is just the beginning, and a gateway into some kind of capitalistic transhumanism. Your body is what roots you into reality and nature, it's really who you are. The ideal consumer is someone who feels that their body is a just a "flesh prison" (quoted directly from source.) and considers that their mind alone is who they are. They will spend huge amounts of money to "bring out their true selves" by changing their appearance. However this so called true self is nothing but influence. I use the word "meme" seriously on this site way too often, but it's all memes. So, say, if you have a body of interchangeable parts that you can choose according to muh true self… That makes you 100% meme, a pure product of consumerist influence.
It's mostly TIMs who are vocal about it, but a lot of trannies openly have transhumanist leanings (still not sure if this is the word). They wish they weren't born too early to become cool anime cyborgs, and they're not hiding it.
TIF forms of escapism are more of a mixed assortment.>>1571525>they are barely women after all the shit that they did to their bodies
They are still female no matter what. If you think surgery and hormones makes them less female, you're giving in to their bullshit.
I fucking threw up.
I wish women everywhere could love and value themselves more.
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Oh go the fuck outside for once
>>1571573>u both retarded I assume>not knowing what horse piss is for, even though we mention it on a regular basis
Not sure if underage, newfag or both.
Whatever "damage" is done to their bodies doesn't matter. We don't care that they have a beard and frog voice, we don't care if they look like a serial killer's first quilting project. We're not trannies, so let's not make the definition of "woman" more complicated than it needs to be. They're female and therefore women, whether we (or they) like it or not.
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Pushback in the comments. A shame lesbians can’t say this same shit to male troons without being punished for it. Sorry to repost, my first pic edit made the text blurry.
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I don't think you have to worry about pregnancy any time soon, sweetie.
she would make a great butch lesbian.>>1571609
i love the constant use of :) in this one, sister really has had it up to here with gendies. i hope more women peak and shut down the gendies when they try to police women's speech.
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Don't know if anyone knows her or cares but I recently found out Ally Beardsley from College Humor is now trans. Another lesbian trooned out
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Shut the fuck up!!!!
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I think the flags together mean they’re trying to say the shota is trans?
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So my guys dudes kings, do my chest look cis passing for real? /s
I think sometimes even if you're not peaked you can kinda pick up that someone is a gendie by their fashion sense alone + sometimes zoomer kids will give fake compliments to people that you can tell are gendies despite being obviously female (such as saying a gendie girl has a "masc/androginous voice" when she absolutely does not), so I could imagine a zoomer doing some gender theatrics exclusively to butter her up.
Fakeboys have absolutelly no awareness of when someone is doing fake asskissing, and they actually love it
This and some of us actually have good fashion sense and a healthy BMI. Stop trying to dump every fat, ugly straight chick on us.>>1571760>you'd be hot if you weren't trans
She looks like a 12 y/o boy who says slurs on Xbox Live kek. Gay moids have some weird kinks but I don't think that's one of them.>>1571827
No one is leaving them out of the conversation!!! They are just being referred to as what they are: WOMEN
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Saw this on ovarit and just like. Jesus christ do they think most girls enjoy being forced to grow up and become even more sexualized than we already are? Do these girls just think we were all coming out of the womb with brushes and lipsticks and not riding bikes with neighborhood boys and playing video games? I don’t understand their regressive thinking.
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Live action Monster High, Frankie Stein is being acted by a he/they so now the character goes by they/them.
Why can't she act as a character who is a "she/her"? Is it gonna trigger
her if they refer to her character as she? So stupid.
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Kek I know it’s a wig but they gave her the shaved side haircut. Very they/them
Shouldn't this like trigger
her gender dysphoria or something
While we're airing some grievances about the TiFs we've ended up around, I really have to get this off my chest (heh):
Something that bothers me in particular is that a few of the ones I know are SO CLOSE to realizing that this is all bullshit… yet they never do. It's infuriating.>>1572041
Frankie Stein confirmed to have a frankendick! I guess this one would actually be a real dick nabbed off of some guy rather than an arm sausage…
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I guess I am since I'm comparing the source that inspired the live action movie by pointing out that the dolls are fashion dolls, not American girl dolls.
The woman doing Frankie has a regular body, she isn't even athletic, and Frankie, and all of the other dolls have ridiculously thin and tall bodies because fashion dolls are supposed to show off their fantasy clothes and look cool.
At least the woman doing draculaura doesn't look like complete shit compared to Frankie's actress, who looks like a nerd loser doing a closet cosplay at a convention.
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Yes, she is in it.
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Oh my god. I thought she might be safe since she isn't one of the main mains. They can't do this to my girl.
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I'm not surprised considering the state of the fandom these days.
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Middle school girls making their costumes the day of Halloween can do better than this.
None of these work. Also why is Lagoona not a pale blue color? So confused. Middle schoolers would accessorize better too. Sad. >>1572384
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if it's not the arm, it's the leg. People are risking their mobility for this shit.
This post seems pretty old. To be entirely fair to this gendie, before the trans community settled on the "you are whatever you say you are" approach, it was considered that your gender identity is the logical result of your life experience.
In practice, it meant girls who felt disconnected from other girls taking a good look at their life memories, pointing out a bunch of common occurences and saying "this right here is a non-binary experience".
Autism and puberty trauma are prevalent in female enbies (I said this so many times already, sorry if you're sick of reading this sentence) meaning they have a shared experience and can understand each other, so it creates a well rooted illusion that the non-binary life experience is an actual thing that exists and is innate. They usually don't think it's regressive.>>1572414
It's a bit complicated, because a lot of TIFs really just want to regress to their pre-puberty body which they can never do and settle for the alternative of trooning out. But by doing so, they distance themselves from the female characters they looked up to when they were actual children, which induces a kind of grief.
This is all analysis from my own past experiences in non-binary spaces and might not reflect the reality of what it's like right now, since trannies get worse every passing year.
>>1572663>Why do gullible, usually young, chronically online girls keep falling for the whole "cishet bad" narrative
Tbh my guess is they want to be part of the cool kids club since they clearly weren't in high school, judging by what most of them are like, and want a sense of community. They see the attention lgbt stuff gets and want it too. They see people saying "cishet" is boring and omg they can't be boring they wanna be quirky and nlog.
It's a pretty simple guess but explains why they crave attention and applause for being a gendie, that feeling of community and being special for something that they can claim as innately "who they are".
>>1572663>gullible, usually young, chronically online girls
Aren't you answering your own question in the process of asking it, nonna?
- They are gullible, not to say dumb or uneducated, which means that instead of reading books and forming their own opinions, they follow the ones that get parroted around them without giving it any thought (and it's scary the amount of people that I have seen get advanced degrees like bachelors or even masters and be unable of critical thoughts over facts or even generating their own analysis of the themes of a series or whatever). If they are unable to contest the new gospel of "each white or cis or straight person is always 100% responsible for any horrible thing that happened or sad thought a non-white or trans or gay person ever had in history," it only makes sense that they try to become "good people" into its confines
- They are young, which unfortunately for many female-socialized women meant having learnt that you must always integrate to the group, fawn over and respect men but see women's problems are risible and not important, and never challenge others and not strive to have your own thoughts and ways of thinking (which is seen as "mean" for women)
- They are chronically online which gives a 90-95% chance they are bullied and friendless in school or family or both, which means that the gender cult is the first group to offer them a feeling of acceptance and belonging at an age where those things matter the most. And online communities without a solid culture of open debate fast turn into extremist silos where people only interact with other people who agree with them and their opinions turns more and more intense and detached from reality, whatever it comes to the gender cult or a plot point in a movie. Plus many people come online just to chill in a fandom but get suckered up into gender and SWJ nonsense because you can't avoid it there and in many fandom can't even participate without parroting it
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Omfg will you shut the fuck up already
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female and also female
said you've answered your own question as you asked it but I want to expand on this point in particular:>many people come online just to chill in a fandom but get suckered up into gender and SWJ nonsense because you can't avoid it there and in many fandom can't even participate without parroting it
This right here is a big component of it. The obvious example is the fujo to gayden pipeline (being a girl who likes m/m ships because you like romance and two hot guys instead of just one is BAD unless you are the gay softboi) but it happens if you just really like a character (you're not just attracted to him you want to be him)
This anon. I used to feel sympathy for Tims because inherently they are mentally ill or abused women but the need to other themselves from women while still benefiting from us is so off putting. They can't coexist in groups of actually straight CIS men so most still have 99% female or spicy straight female friends and have the nerve to feel "attacked" when women talk about their negative expeirence with men. They try and mimic male socialization so badly (and badly done) they just come off as selfish women bullies who use their identity as an excuse to be sexist towards the only gender that even tries to accept them. CIS men have never and will never accept an Aiden into their circle the same way women are expected to rewrite their reality and accept true and honest Hontra men and pathetic perpetual "I am feel uncomfortable when we are not about me?" Aidens.
I see it now as they have the same mental illness that makes all troons feel entitled to police peoples thoughts. They are self centered and gullible and would through thy fellow woman under the bus for a sliver of approval from the scrotes that traumatized them to begin with. MtFs and FtMs are the same species just different breeds of fucking selfish and delusional.
I agree with both of you but I think another difference between TIFs and TIMs is that TIMS are far more aggressive which is what makes women who don't buy into this gender stuff too fearful to come out because they're afraid they'll get assaulted or doxxed to lose their job since most of the trans cult who do that are the TIMs.
I can't recall many stories of TIFs violently assaulting women (or men kek) like I have with TIMs assaulting women.
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Holy shit this is actually confirmed to be in the film. They actually changed Frankie to a gender special.
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Personal cow of mine. Her whole account leaves me speechless. There is something very wrong with her that I don't tend to see in many other TIFs her age.
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Hetorsexual TIFs seem to be aware that no FTM can ever have bodies of the men they desire
I don't think it's the fault of Millennials. It's the commodification of gender. The CEOs (Gen X) of most Fortune 500 companies are men, and big tech particularly does not care what Zoomer teenage girls see in their feeds or forums or what-have-you as long as it makes them money. It leads to extremely sexist advertising. You cannot avoid seeing these ads on Snapchat, Facebook, Twitter, YouTube… GNC-looking women and/or older women never get promoted on any of them.
These girls aren't exposed to many women who aren't a combination of mother, teacher or supermodel, i.e., make-up-caked YouTuber, Hollywood Celeb, or Politician in their day-to-day life. Especially during covid, big tech can reach them more than ever.
Women of past generations simply didn’t interact with sexist media as much as Zoomer girls do. Feminists of the past who created the way modern women live today coped by knowing womenhood should be expanded to include everyone Female and exclude Males. It includes older women, women with mental health problems, completely average women, etc, at the very least. Gen Z is told Feminism doesn't exist now because it's not in the news or in their feeds. They cope by giving up, not knowing anything better is out there for them.
This focus on advertising makes it harder for always-online girls to grow up more than any other age group or sex. Advertising prefers people be static in their interests. Consume media created with a camera, buy their shit (and make sure you consistently buy the same things no matter if you’re 13 or 30), don't say anything behind their back (because then they can't track what you talk about), and don't develop to the point to where you have your life mostly off the screen. Most womens’ interests drastically change in their early twenties/late teens due to a variety of reasons, (starting a family young, losing interest in things that were once fascinating, finding community in your local area…)
Unless you chose to spend all your time playing games on Facebook, advertising companies want you doing none of this. They don’t add to their automatic advertising algorithms that advertising fingerprints of Zoomer girls should be changed once they should mature mentally to make sure they want to interact with other women so they know they’re not struggling alone. Men their age don’t run into this issue because they’re far less likely to tune out on sexist media than women are unless they’re doing it for other reasons. If you tell yourself that you’re not Female before this point, most don’t tune out on this sort of shoved-in-your-face shit, and advertisers love them for it.
These advertisements create current trends and cross-social media morality. The distance between advertising and content is blurred much more than it ever was during the era teenage girls watched TV mainly too. TV aired reruns of shows decades old. YouTube only has content posted from 2006 and up. On TikTok, it’s 2019 and up.
Saged for technolo/g/y tier post and rant.
Seconded. I feel bad for the abuse and neglect that led some of them down this road, but there comes a point where they had to think for themselves and they chose to side with misogyny and to hate women.
They chop their breasts off and encourage others to do the same like it's no big deal because they think they aren't of any importance, because it's a part of a woman's body and they don't value women's bodies. They think what's stopping insecure mentally ill girls from feeling better is to remove all of their icky femininity. They could have chosen to see gender stereotypes as bad and something to fight against, instead they decided to uphold them in the most drastic way possible by insisting if you don't like barbie dolls you ARE a man because ALL girls like barbie. All while telling themselves they are somehow the progressive ones for thinking you can identify out of being a woman. They are messed up and mentally ill which I don't wish upon them, but they've taken it to a point where it hurts all other girls and they should be called out and held accountable.
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Reminds me of this quote.
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This tif is currently on Reddit complaining that her incel mtf boyfriend is a raging misogynist. Had to kek. I’d love to hear what he really thinks about this botched mess, since he is “bi” but “prefers” women. You know he just looks at her as a hole. Sad lives these women choose to carve out for themselves.https://www.reddit.com/r/mypartneristrans/comments/vi9p63/my_partner_mtf_says_a_lot_of_misogynistic_things/
Holy fuck, Aiden should fucking RUN. She's gonna end up beat up or dead with a partner like that. Even the freaks in that sub know shit's fucked up, and they're redditors
.I can't stop laughing at her chest though. If you picture her nipples as eyes, the scars look like frowny eyebrows, kek.
the nipples will always give them away kek.>>1573008
Why does Hollywood insist on ruining my childhood every chance they get? I don't even mind Frankie being a they/them (I think it's stupid) but they're all so damn drab and ugly it looks like the weeb portion of a highschool talent show.
I'm close to your age, also always online and was pretty active on tumblr and I haven't met one single nb millenial so far. Might be, because I blocked all that trans, nb, donation posts on tumblr after they started spreading, because I was so damn annoyed by it. Or it might have something to do that we probably are from different countries. But I would agree, it started with late millennials and first zoomers.
Right now I'm working together with people around 50+ and people below 30, it's quite interesting that the ones below 30 are very careful about that gender shit and get really angry when people tell them that it's bullshit, they also act like they know everything and that opinions of others aren't valid
. Still, could be their personality, I don't know, I just think that we are lucky to have faced a world without social media and could develop ideas and an identity before everyone asked you about your gender.
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we're tired of you too cody
Checked her blog and found posts about "transandrophobia" and it's so frustrating to see like c'mon you're so close
to getting it. You are
oppressed for something, MTFs are
denying your oppression and if you just stop inventing retarded new words for five minutes it should click.
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Hm this is a very interesting perspective and I think there's a lot of truth in what you said. I actually have noticed that whenever I'm on YouTube, like you mentioned I never see GNC women on there unless I look. The algorithms do tend to push beauty videos, vlogs with conventionally feminine & attractive women, clothing hauls, etc. Pretty much pushing pretty feminine women and the products they're sponsoring and it's only when you go out of your way looking for specific interests that don't fit hhe typical feminine stereotypes where you can find women who break the mold and even when you do, the algorithm won't push those videos to your daily feed, at least not in my experience so far.
I think you're definitely right that what was a bit better back in the days pre social media days was that we mostly watched TV shows and in TV shows, sometimes you'd be exposed to all kinds of different people. Like at least for me, a few that I remember seeing growing up were characters like Toph from Avatar the Last Airbender, Punky Brewster, and a few others who are escaping my mind at the moment. Having exposure to all kinds pf people on TV back in the day probably did help people be grounded more in reality. Compared to now where the youngest millennials and the gen z seemed to be raised on social media, you have kids as young as 11 getting on Twitter for example and it's more than likely distorting perception of reality for some of these girls. >>1573577>I've always been pretty active on Tumblr>I'm perpetually online
I do see where you're coming from. I forgot that Tumblr was actually popular with us Millennials way back in the early 2010s so that's a very good point there. And all of theose 79 genders thing, it started on Tumblr. I remember seieng that obnoxious gender chart thing there but it was quite small at the time. It only kept being added to as the years went on. >>1573596>>1573621
I agree with you both. I'm also glad I got to experience a decade of non-social media and non internet-driven life. My family got internet in 1998 and while I did use the computer sometimes, I was never on it for hours on end. I remember going to my friends house to play Nintendo 64 (and later Gamecube) and my family would go camping at least once every other month lol. There was ust so many things that kept us occupied where we didn't feel the need to be online as well as "question our gEnDeR" compared to now
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Even normies are starting to realize how absurdly misogynistic TIF/enbys c>>1573768
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It gets depressing because any time someone makes art of female genitalia the person is called a terf
UNLESS it is specified or made clear it resolves around NB or TiF stuff. Meanwhile, men (TiMs and otherwise) can draw dicks on everything, talk about penises all day, but the moment a woman says anything about her uterus, vulva, clitoris, etc. it’s taken as a huge political statement against the trans. Reminds me of how growing up in school you’d see dicks on everything but even the mention of a vagina was met with gasps.
It's dumb as shit. A woman calling vaginas female is terfy. A TIM calling his axe wound female is stunning and brave.
I don't think they ever plan to make sense with their gender bs. One moment you have them screaming about how "genitals don't equal gender". The other moment you get TIM freaks like keffals and their TIF equivalents talking about the euphoria they get from their deformed bodies.
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Reminds me of this creature…
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so much autism in a single image
you see she’s obviously a boy cuz girls don’t like planes
I remember this reporter. Her name used to be Mac McClelland and she got in trouble awhile back for doxxing a rape victim
She also wrote a really bizarre article about re-enacting the poor woman’s rape to “cure her PTSD”:https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Health/reporter-mac-mcclelland-violent-sex-ease-post-traumatic/story?id=13995013
And now I guess she’s trooned out and wants the world to know about her penis. Strange individual, I can see why she wanted to change her name though.
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How quaint must it be to live in their own little circlejerk
“Don't you see that the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the range of thought? In the end we shall make thought-crime literally impossible, because there will be no words in which to express it. Every concept that can ever be needed will be expressed by exactly one word, with its meaning rigidly defined and all its subsidiary meanings rubbed out and forgotten. . . . The process will still be continuing long after you and I are dead. Every year fewer and fewer words, and the range of consciousness always a little smaller. Even now, of course, there's no reason or excuse for committing thought-crime. It's merely a question of self-discipline, reality-control. But in the end there won't be any need even for that. . . . Has it ever occurred to you, Winston, that by the year 2050, at the very latest, not a single human being will be alive who could understand such a conversation as we are having now?”
― George Orwell, 1984
Feminism has no meaning without the word woman.
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Why are handmaidens actually retarded. I got the notification that the group’s name changed from women’s to human rights and all I can say is I hate it here.
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lady from Sister Wives comes out as non-binary, I guess she's also dating a trans person? Not sure what flavor though.
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Her girlfriend came out as trans (They/Them as well) In decemeber 2021 by the way
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Mariah was always begging for attention and you could tell she was treated differently because her mom was the unloved barely tolerated sister wife. The image attached to the post made me laugh, totally looks like a Leon
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Handmaidens have got to stop bowing down to TiFs.
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I saw this one on tumblr today.
I am begging you spergs to get a thread on /m/ for your kids movie and stop shitting up this thread.>>1574715
Holy shit lmao. My wife and I hatewatch Sister Wives (well, we started out as a hatewatch but we're now rooting for all the wives to leave him kek) and were talking about how Mariah seemed like the type of libfem lesbian to troon out out of nowhere. It's always the ones who make their sexuality a huge part of their personality.>>1574747
This is an insult to the Canadian business suit.
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My personal lolcow is incredibly retarded, she lives in California, ofc she would get pandered, also for a self proclaimed anarchist she clings way too much to government issued papers. Non-binary will never be a thing biologically no matter how many times they screech about it.
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Riddle me this, fakebois!
If you are men, then why are you affected by laws meant to oppress women whereas "cis" men are not?
Dunning-Kruger: the person
Who's gonna tell her legal sex isn't the same biological because there's jurisdictions you can change it, while what you are born as stays the same.
You are not non-binary, you just have a personality disorder.
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and of course the artist is a fat dumpy TIF
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oh shit she's the "I identify as a lesbian even though I'm liberally engaged to a man" chick from the twitter hate thread>>1575135
Please someone tell me this is a troll>I wasn't dating men because of an actual desire>I find men attractive
Make it make fucking sense
Same! I'm readying popcorn for when these people get exposed, it's gonna be so much fun to watch the trans berlin wall fall so to speak.
The trans ideology has hurt so many people and robbed children of their futures but the current numbers are in the dark, I'm hoping there are studies happening right now that will be revealed in the nearish future.
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and anyone who wants to follow research on tifs the doctor in charge of the young transition healthcare in Finland is openly more terfy/based than any researcher in this field in anglohell could ever and makes that research.
Here is a link to podcast episode where she is interviewed:https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/62-pioneers-series-adolescent-identity-with/id1542655295?i=1000550774368
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Came across this on Instagram. They are so close to getting it
said kek. Yeah a lot of these women look rather… Undesirable but there is a man out there who would still fuck her and if she's not a lesbian, she'll make due if she herself is desperate enough.
This is true but honestly, while I feel bad for the poor girls who got sucked into this gender bullshit, I can't say I feel the same for women like Buck Angel, pretty much women who did this all to themselves in adult age. They knew the risks but they still fucked their bodies up anyway and I just can't feel that much sympathy for them. Does this make me a bad person?
I can be empathetic but a lot of these women are just awful and I can't help but find it hard to pity them.
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Apparently there’s a trans dude talking about periods on the new Baymax show. I think you can tell who it is in picrel kek
Is this going to age just as bad as Disney's pro-Nazi days? >>1575552
Oh nonna it's money screaming from the rooftops.
>>1575542>Fashion redesigns>Sexualizing the male characters
You know I actually haven't seen much sexualized fan art of the male characters from Winx Club but to be fair, I don't go out of my way to see porn of them kek.
But yeah it's very interesting how the male fans who like those shows rarely troon out when you think they would because these media properties sensationalize femininity. At the most, I've seen these guys troon out to Sailor Moon kek.
You're right. They won't feature Lesbian and Gay relationships in more of their movies but they'll put shit like this in it? Am I wrong in thinking it's some sort of homophobia on their part?
>Is it all just money talking
It has to be because this shit is getting out of hands. And just watch, sooner or later the gender bubble is gonna burst and we're gonna be looking back wondering how we ever thought any of this gender shit was okay when we have a generation of mentally and physically fucked people. And the worst part? They won't take accountability when it inevitably happens. "We didn't know" they'll shout despite being warned for decades prior.
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Didn’t mark names out, stole from KF but anyway, sometimes I feel like these people don’t even live on planet earth.
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not sure if this fits but it's funny real™ nonbinaries think they're above this
>>1574779> my sex is legally nonbinary which is absolutely terrifying right now since the government knows Im trans
Why are people so excited to be oppressed? you
changed your documents with the gov to that, why are you now outraged that the gov knows what you submitted? Also why the fuck are you able to change SEX on documents anyway. Even if you support this it’s so unsafe if you’re unconscious and a doctor doesn’t know your bio sex because they could give you the wrong amount of medication or unsuitable treatment
When they say stupid shit like this I have to laugh. It is literally almost completely made up of white people who dress quirky. The brown and black enbies who dress quirky think they're above the white quirky enbies when they're following a white american trend. The white normie-looking enbies think they're above the white quirksters yet below the brown and black quirksters when, again, they are ALL following a majorly white american trend. The enby hierarchy is weird but very intriguing, because it's all based on dressing up and also on birth sex ("amab" enbies are prized rare gems and they love to milk their "oppression" [i.e. being excluded from female only spaces] because it gets them all the clout they can ever dream of, they can dress literally HOWEVER they want and they get off scot-free because of their penis-pass). Brown and black women enbies are superficially elevated within the cult but one wrong move and they'll be excommunicated and canceled at the drop of a hat (because they're women) and if you dress too
much like a hipster you're embarrassing and not a Real and True enby, and if you dress like a normie then you're not enby enough and you're just a gross cis woman hopping on trends to seem woke (even though that is all enbies). It's all so fucking insane to me.
is "connor" a girl?
i just can't when gaydens are back on their bullshit and faggots take the bait. girl will tweet pictures of fugly tifs who supposedly pass and say "what is female about this? i know you're attracted to him" and gays always reply genuinely. they're so naive (retarded). i've never seen this happen between transbians and lesbians.
there will always be moids who call themselves gay while fucking women. the kinsey 6 homos should just get over it.
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artstyles like these just immediately scream "TIF" kek
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A little off topic. Just saw this on my feed. So I guess the brothers bi/gay? I wonder how many others from the alphabet soup they're going to add.
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Comments on a video talking about Roe v Wade and women. Now they want whole videos redone with inclusive language.
I'm so glad that the tide is turning here. I've listened to her interviews and in one of them a dumbass journalist starts to repeat the 41% mantra but she just calmly states that there's no evidence that trooning would reduce the risk of suicide in these individuals. She's based as hell.
I hope Finland and other free healthcare countries are really pulling the brakes right now. They've even let literal retards transition here (as in actually clinically retarded people), so it can't come soon enough.
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>>1575527>Baymax got ruined by groomer troons
well there goes another ruined childhood. >>1575552>It’s unreal. Is it all just money talking?
Yes. The medical industry makes tons of money by butchering children and handing out hormones, knowing well enough that they will have complications in the future. And not only does the medical industry get cash, but so do other corporations. When you've butchered your body and nobody wants you because you are an eunuch, you are naturally severely depressed. Depressed people are perfect consumers who will make poor spending choices to distract them from their misery.
Kevin Gibbs and Jazz Jennings are prime examples of making shitty choices.
Oh yeah and pedos love tranny shit because they get off on hurting kids. Pedo groups like NAMBLA have always been a massive thorn in the LGBT community since its beginnings. At least the troons made it possible to weed them out and people can identify them more easily.>>1575589>It has to be because this shit is getting out of hands. And just watch, sooner or later the gender bubble is gonna burst and we're gonna be looking back wondering how we ever thought any of this gender shit was okay when we have a generation of mentally and physically fucked people. And the worst part? They won't take accountability when it inevitably happens. "We didn't know" they'll shout despite being warned for decades prior.
Some doctors are already walking back to avoid responsibility. Fuck that, at least ban them from ever being doctors or even touching a random person- literally cut their hands off.
Very astute point, you're right on the money and when you put all this into context, the tumblrinas who were in high school who grew up and actually did go to school (usually Calarts) for animation and graduated, they're now working on these projects and inserting their retarded gender stuff into them.
There's a reason why this wasn't happening in the 2000s which was the last era that had media based in logic outside of science fiction and that's because the animators were people who didn't believe in the gender crap or if they did, they weren't trying to push it in the media all that much.
>>1576294>there's no evidence that trooning would reduce the risk of suicide in these individuals
This is slightly out of topic but I was thinking lately that the supposed suicide rate of troons might actually be related with the prevalence of autism between them (autists also have a higher suicide rate than average).
Either way, TRAs don't actually want to put proper thought into fixing the suicide rate or what are the things that could fix it or not, they literally only care about it as a mantra/gotcha they can recite to guilt-trip people into agreeing with whatever they say.
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It's money and misogyny talking. It's telling that the new Sims 4 EP casually makes the only she/her gender conforming girl the "pain in the –" uncool character, and all the theybians and he/hims are presented as style queens/desirable jocks/relatable main character.
It is. Even the few attractive TIFs and enbys are usually less attractive than the popular instaqueens. And the genuinely attractive ones? They all eventually get cancelled and bullied out of the scene.
The sadder ones are the fat chicks who think testosterone will turn them into BTS prettyboys. A personal cow has started to come to grips with the reality that she will never ever look like the BTS boys, and her trans activism/testosterone evangelism has gotten a lot less. Now it seems like she clings to the troon community just because it's all she know.
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>>1576598The only reason they added pronouns was for this high school pack. I noticed a while back whenever they introduce Tran shit, it's towards childern. Like in that wack "Home decorator" pack, they had a little boy become a girl with the trans flag in the background. So i'm not surpised the first "non-binary" sim is in a "High school" pack. They seem to think this is all the rage with younger people. I find it weird. Gender shit wasn't in the werewolf pack.
However it is pride month time to pander to get that money I guess.
>>1576587>>1576607>tifs are just ugly jealous women who hate prettier/more accomplished women and lash out throught bullying them and self harm
No shit, could have never guessed in a thousand years after putting up with these hateful nasty goblins myself and see the shit they did to other girls as well.
All it takes is interacting with them for a while. Its annoying people in this thread tries sometimes to make them seem like victims
when good chunk of them are not. They could have worked on their internalized misogyny but instead choose to pull these stunts.
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Seeing this randomly was like being jumpscared. Why do all their beard things grow so weirdly?
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Someone should psyop the troons into wanting to leave the lgb voluntarily. They get to come up with a new name and flag since they love that shit so much. And they get to bitch about how the gays pushed them out like refugees and they’re so persecuted because of it.
I'm so sick of the victim
schtick. Vast majority of TIFs I've encountered both on and offline have been hateful little assholes who happily spread dangerous rhetoric about puberty blockers, HRT and "gender affirming" surgery. They also fear monger with the 41% mantra and then wonder why everyone in their echo chamber is depressed; oh and don't forget that if you speak out against them they'll threaten you with violence and try to get you fired. Fuck 'em.>>1576686
Bad genes and a lack of care from being a chronic soap dodger, I suspect. I knew a TIF IRL who grew a convincing beard but she had to wash it twice daily, use oils to care for it, brush the beard and the patchy areas because something something blood vessels something something help stimulate growth, I think? Idk. I just remember it requiring a lot of steps.Meanwhile unlucky schmucks like me get hit with swarthy middle eastern genes and PCOS. If bearded ladies were still a thing I could join the fucking circus, kek.
she was so cute, ffs
god when will it end
also >not entirely a boy kek how long until she goes full troon and claims she's a man
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>>1576724>no one likes to feel like an inconvenience!
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I mean, she's said this many times before in previous comics. Like most tifs, she can't pull off larping as a "manly man" so they settle for their uwu soft boy fantasy instead.
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Nope, it doesn’t matter. It doesnt
matter to anyone but you. Anyone who cares about your made-up struggle with being a woman AND somehow being a man is either being nice or is just as brainwashed as you are. You can’t champion womanhood >>1576756
if you deliberately chose to throw it away like this. Exercises in narcissism, unsurprising coming from the western animation community, though.
I see Diane more as being whatever little parts of herself she won’t
self-abandon. She has NLOGed nearly every element of herself, purging little bits of selfhood…I guess I’m glad that some small fragment of self has managed to hang on.
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The art vs the TIF
Is it me or does it look like she's a dwarf in that self-portrait? The leg proportions especially. Top kek at the renaissance fair outfit which she just had
to fashion so it could show off her brave and stunning tit chop scars.
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So bloby I hate it.
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many TIFs are former fujoshis and so they naturally fetishize and in turn idealize male youth, even the non-fujo TIFs(both straight and lesbian) envy boyhood, Lesbian TIFs wished they were the beautiful and handsome boys that effortlessly get the attention of all the girls they pined for, while straight TIFs are still hung up over the fact that those handsome boys, they they desired ignored them and so they concluded, if they can't get a handsome bf they'll become one, 99% Aydenism is a result of engaging in unnatural and unhealthy outlets for female sexuality, I can almost sympathize with them, I love seeing handsome young men and I can understand the desire to just be a beautiful man and state at myself endlessly but I know that will never be a reality and so it remains nothing more then an occasionally fantasy
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samefag, accidentally dropped image
there's a contingent of older more conservative people who work in animation too (so many people who work in feature are super religious idk why but they are).
I won't lie and say the queer animation ppl don't exist but they're not the majority even if it may seem like it. they just have a lot of online presence and I suspect that gives them more leverage for new work if they're popular… and then there are the well meaning "allies" who just stick any bullshit in to check off the boxes
sorry for spergery
I only know people from TV where this group is overrepresented but you're right, they're just really loud. There's lots of people in the industry who have minimal to no social media presence and stay away from these issues completely. I strive for that myself.
God I wish I could make more normie friends.
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From the western animation thread, which overlaps with this thread from time to time because fakebois have shitted up the animation industry so bad kek
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I can't even watch a video on feminine hygiene without encountering some troon in the wild whining about muh dysphoria
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This nb author’s book is one of the most banned books in America. I can’t figure out if it was in middle or high schools, but she insisted that the book could save lives kek.
>>Maia Kobabe — who uses gender-neutral pronouns e, em and eir — woke up to a slew of emails from journalists at The Associated Press and local Washington, D.C., news stations requesting interviews.
>>After the contentious school board meeting, Fairfax County Public Schools, Virginia’s largest school district, pulled “Gender Queer” and another book, “Lawn Boy” by Jonathan Evison, from school shelves
>>1577175>Shit other girls go through too>"omg, only I suffer through this"
Kek. I love how these assholes use their brains.>who uses gender-neutral pronouns e, em and eir
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She’s 33 and was raised by San Francisco hippies.
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sage for not milk, but is pixelade a tif or just a gay manlet? does anyone else here watch him?
The saddest thing about this point is that those young boys never remain looking like that for long. I know that should be obvious, but truly these boys only look like this until -maybe- their mid-20's. Twink death is real, and eventually they all get more hairy, hairlines recede, they gain weight. Women age so much more gracefully, that "hit the wall" shit is so backwards.
It makes me so sad nonnies, tomboy, butch lesbians like Ellen and Noelle, they'd literally continue to look boyishly-masculine well into their 30's and 40's, but instead they choose to medically mutilate themselves and age terribly. If Noelle really has been using that T-gel shit, it shows because >>1576835
she's already starting to look way rougher than before.
It makes no sense. Sorry for my whining anons, I'm just a sad lesbian who loves soft-butches and I can't stand to see them continue to fuck themselves over like this. Especially when, with their reasoning, it's so counterproductive.
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That is not at all the point I was trying to make, also there's a huge difference between males who try to look boyish as long as possible(gay moids and pop-stars) and average men who allow themselves to age gracefully, my point was how specifically about the desire and allure of male beauty, gender isn't a fluid, a beautiful man cannot be a beautiful or even an average woman, similarly a with a masculine or boyish style is distinct from maleness, its specifically a female style
Where is that text from? Where can I read the rest?>>1577220
I thought it was a run of the mill Christian church, I didn't know it was a straight up cult
Ntayrt but I hear what you're saying and it depresses me too. So much media aimed at women glorifies male youth and/or androgynous boys (BL, kpop, etc). If you're a gnc lesbian and all the girls you have crushes on are idolizing skinny effeminate twinks, the thought of becoming the twink can seem really appealing. Plus they make it sound like transing yourself will let you escape misogyny and homophobia, and who doesn't want that?
I don't know much about the Noelle situation beyond what's itt but that's definitely the vibe I'm getting from her story.
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Lots of millennials and especially gen z women have fully internalized the idea that gnc/butch lesbians basically can't be "cis" and are a transition waiting to happen. No idea how they square this with a lesbian identity (poorly, as can be seen with Noelle) but it's depressing as fuck.>>1577619
I get it if the church is really homophobic, which lots of mainstream Christian churches are, but these TIFs trooning out are doing the exact opposite of escaping it, they're accepting that the strict gender roles are correct and they're just NLOG.
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deathfat self-proclaimed enbie who works for the us senate
You're arguing men are closeted bisexuals which no one is arguing against.the original point was the sentiment that "women's sexualities are fluid" come from the projection of moids who don't view sex or sexuality the same because they can like you said >don't have to feel romantic love or respect for someone to want to fuck them (as straight men have shown women, many times)
The concept of sexuality being fluid for women to them is because most male interactions are either devoid of all affection or sex based. They're the ones claiming they're straight and making arbitrary rules to define straightness.
idk, I think I'd be more concerned over potentially having cancer than the language people use to describe it.
I guess they would say it's because I'm "a dirty cis"