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This thread is for posting and discussing cringey fakebois who may or may not deserve their own threads.
Fakebois are girls who pretend to be boys for attention, either as trannies or biological males (usually the former).
Fakebois style and present themselves as androgynous or feminine-looking young men, even wearing girls' clothing and make-up. They insist on being addressed with he/him (or occasionally they/them) pronouns and take great offense at being gendered as female. Some are SJW transactivists, but for most their identities are entirely superficial.
Reminder to "truescums" and "transmeds": Nobody cares about how [[[100% REAL]]] your or any other tranny's ~dysphoria~ is. Don't derail about how you're actually a true troon unlike everyone else, save it for your twitter feed.
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Not that fakeboi-worthy for this time but I thought the "tranniversary" funny
They/them enbies count as fakebois imo, this thread is basically "female snowflakes who try to be not girls".>>1032834
lmao I know right, the icing on the cake is that the person who wrote it presents completely feminine but still has this "crippling dysphoria"
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Have we discussed self-described non-binary and gender-nonconforming actor Quintessa Swindell, of Euphoria and Trinkets fame?
>Telling the world about your gender identity can be challenging, and we often hear about the negative experiences people have to overcome. Do you have any positive experiences you can share about how people have reacted to you telling them you are non-binary?
>Yes. When I first began seeing my current partner, I was very reluctant about voicing my gender identity. However as months went by and I began to grow increasingly comfortable I mentioned one night that on some days I don't feel like a girl. That I feel like I'm trying to understand and explain how I want to be identified, gender-wise. His response was welcoming and loving, and I wondered why I hadn't mentioned it earlier to him. It was like he knew the entire time, and he was supportive from day one.
Reminds me of OP pic of the last thread kek
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It worries me how quickly this happened
Watch this guy bail out when she starts talking about cutting her tits off and going on T kek >>1032941
Holy shit what the fuck. These changes always seem to happen overnight and they go on T in like two or three months.
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why do zoomer fakeboys now have all the same cringe aesthetic?
Not wanting to wear dresses, makeup and long hair of course. Wanting to wear legitimately comfortable clothing and not bothering to put on your face means you're definitely experiencing gender dysphoria and actually identify as male. Are you dense, anon? It's 2020!>>1032998
Most of these normie tier FTMs just discover troon tiktokkers and youtubers who present transitioning as this empowering journey that makes you special and admirable. Most of them try to play it so that even homosexuality means "gender dysphoria" and looking at this girl's profile it seems she realizes "she was a man" because she got a girlfriend. Good old internalized homophobia.
I always get shivers down my spine when I read accounts from parents who tell about their 13-year old daughters one day just cutting their hair and starting to wear male clothing and announcing they want to be called Ayden from this day on because that's what everyone else is doing. If I recall correctly, in the UK it's even lobbied to be child abuse if you don't comply with your kid's transition plans. So you better let that 14-year old get on T and cut off her tits so she can continue making those cool transition tiktok videos!
Lol that's a story post from a_smile_and_a_song now known as minteaprince. One of the most popular fake bois right now. She constantly spergs about how oppressed she is for wearing makeup and being called a girl when shes a "trans boi"
Apparently she went on a 6 month hiatus from Instagram for her "transition". We'll see how that goes.
Well of course anon. You can never question someones identity nowadays otherwise you're clearly a transphobe.
That insta is shit for sure but they are right about Riss' obsession with skin walking "uwu wittle pretty boys" granted that's nothing new. Riss does the same thing all the other fakebois do, she's just more popular.
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Stopped T and is now trying on bras, heels and lacy crop tops "for a friend" okay, miles….
Assuming the cash register girl's gender is woke and funny, assuming my gender is triggering
and makes me cry. Tran logic.
She uses a ton of photoshop and some of her cosplays went viral (probably the Zelda one?) which got her some cosplay guest spots. Then she trooned out which got her additional woke points. >>1033603>>1033614
To my recollection the only person who "respected her identity" was the fellow fakeboi tranny in question trying to force the stale ass "s-she cosplays as young boys what a pedo!! and she tapes her face like a yellowfacing racist!!" IG drama and got upset when anons laughed at her and her obsession with Riss. But it was hilarious to see her insisting on using "they" pronouns for Riss and constantly correcting anons to call her a trans man while shit talking her lmao.
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this is just misogyny with a million extra steps. who is even saying this shit to her and the three other people she shares a gender identity with anyways? 1/2
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I've only seen her mentioned once or twice here, but this is 0ni_bug (formley Onyx Psybug). I never really used chan boards but I know I've seen a post of people trying to discern her biological sex and a depressing amount of them seemed convinced she was a super androgynous guy.
Credit to her, she doesn't really sperg out about pronouns anymore but did go through her insistent 'I'm a cis male' phase.
All the jaw editing is depressing, really. She's in her mid/late 20s and the stark difference between how she edits herself, and her actual appearance are only going to look more ridiculous as she gets older. Enjoy your yaoi fantasy while you can, gurl, 'cause it won't last forever.
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This hoe still putting socks in her shorts to make people fall for the "it's a trap!!" meme
Lmao another former lesbian now suddenly I'm a twink boy. Last I knew of her she was dating a girl and out as a cis woman?>>1033828
I swear all these chin editing fuckers look the same with their uncanny valley edits.
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She looks much heavier (normalweight) in the bottom pics. She's very thin now. Is there any recent pictures of her taken by other ppl? Her face must've changed…
this pic is 2 yrs old
Narcissist much? That's probably why you get posted here.
Also ew lol
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What a narcissist. Why must she always use so many meaningless words to insist that men are better than women lol
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>>1034141>Ayden, Jayden, Kayden, Kaiden, Jaiden, Aiden, Brayden, Braiden, Aydian>Kai, Oliver>Luca, Lucas>Julius, Julian>Damian, Damien>Ash, Ashley, Asher>Elijah, Eli, Elliot, Emil
Every time I see a "male" using one of these names I have to check if it's a woman, especially when they claim to be gay.>>1030923
I guess Trinity's lurking these threads because she had posted this along with "terfs be checkin on my posts and screenshotting them, sad!!!". Say hi everyone!
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These are from the last ~2 years or so. She and most of the Sydney fakebois always wear mask accessories to clubs to hide those lil chins and non-existent adam's apples, so it's hard to find exposed faces. She definitely lost her chubby cheeks; in the past she's alluded to subsiding on single cheese slices and beer, not to mention that MDMA/general stimulants are basically a prerequisite for attending weeb events in town.>>1033950
That's the thing, you've never actually seen her. IRL she's a petite, confused lesbian who is otherwise dull and dim, with no personality to speak of.
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I tried to find some pics with her actual figure visible. Also from the last two years or so, featuring bonus fakeboi Nathan. WE'RE TOTALLY TRAPS GUISE.
Is her fan base actually made up of thirsty, brain dead men or are those men actually other ftms/enbies egging her on? She is so obviously female and the fact that she is never shirtless should make it apparent. I’ve never seen a male e-thot who desperately tried to hide his chest or only teased a weird bulge and no nudes. >>1034893
Lol. No fujo is thinking about butchered, goofy looking mentally ill girl when they read yaoi. Depictions of idealized cis men with illuminated dicks have nothing to do with sloppy little ftms. What’s worse is these girls are moving on from visualizing themselves as scrawny teenage twinks designed by women for women and are trying to colonize the bara fandom too. So a woman(or possibly men too)can’t even enjoy manga of handsome, manly men written by real men either because balding fat girls stuffing themselves into pastel button-up shirts are calling themselves “big titty” bara hunks now. Not exaggerating that description.
MLM and WLW are exclusively used by heterosexual larpers.
>>1035231>are trying to colonize the bara fandom too.
Good. At least the gay men over there have the privilege to tell those stupid fucks off and their "w-we need to talk about the transphobia in the gay male community!!!!" doesn't fly because they're natal women going up against cis men i.e. not even their pwecious trans community will back them up. But on the other hand it causes them just settle with bullying cis fujos minding their own business with the "stop fetishizing my sexuality!!!!" crutch when they want to feel superior to those other dumb WAHMEN.
Agree about the fakebois larping as bara guys too, it's been a huge growing trend to witness pudgy 5ft4 girls with a teenager beard and no chin flexing their nonexistent guns and drawing themselves as this buff bear daddy type character that looks absolutely nothing like them. I gotta admit though most of them are just lesbians with extra steps because they only date other fakebois so they barely even pose a threat to gay men. When they get "misgendered" at a gay orgy they just lock themselves in the bathroom to cry instead of getting rapey and violent as witnessed by many accounts.
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Amelia “wolfgender/pupgender/transgender/whatever-gets-the-most-attention-gender” Rourke at it again
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I had a good kek at this one
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imagine being in your garden having a good time and suddenly you see your neighbor doing this
HE'S FUCKING NAKED……
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wtf is going on in his abdomen
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he really tries to look masculine but fails and results in these photoshop fails (dat abdomen bone and this square mandible)
no sage, posts one person very quickly, refuses to call an obvious woman in a fakeboi thread “she”
idk either you’re a retarded newfag who can’t learn to integrate or you’re a self-poster looking for attention
any way the wind blows, stfu or learn to integrate
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I would say it's half and half, but the half that it's composed of creepy men who like her body because she looks like a child is too overwhelming for me I can't really notice the girls that want to imitate her.
Also picrel I think she's lurking since she again tweeted this ''UwU stop assuming I'm x gender intersexuality comes in so many ways'' statement recently. I really wish she would stop attentionwhoring by packing and calling herself a boi. But whatever, being a lesbian is not what attracts simps anyways.
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I don’t think she can fake it if she has already mutilated herself and wrecked her body with T for a while. But it is a waste of what could have been good looking butch girl. They are all disappearing and it’s sad. >>1035668
The fact that she looks more like an underage child than an actual feminine man her age is something I didn’t consider. That makes more sense now. I didn’t know much about her. I have just seen her mentioned here and there since her photos and fan comments are so obnoxious. Doing more research, it appears she was presenting online as just a normal petite goth lesbian up until last year. But now she does everything she can to edit herself to look like a little boy and mostly it’s her friends that keep pushing the real boi stuff. Maybe she is actually trolling and self-aware?
But I don’t know what she thinks gender identity has to do with biological sex characteristics. Intersex disorders don’t change the fact that she’s a girl stuffing her pants. If she were upfront about doing “reverse trap” cosplay or even being trans, it wouldn’t be a big deal. But if she’s deliberately letting people think she is a cis guy, my issue is that it violates consent since she is selling erotic content to people who believe they are interacting with a man.
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What website do you think you’re on newfag? If she’s not going to do anything to make herself appear male then she shouldn’t be surprised when ppl are gonna she’d her on the street. But according to her trans people can be “transphobic”.
You just have internalized capitalism. Body consumerism is the worst forms of exploitative capitalism that has historically targeted and harmed women in the form of cosmetic surgeries. And now it is targeting non-binary, trans, and GNC free spirits.
By perpetuating the belief that one needs to affirm an identity through consumerism, you're endorsing the inherent exploitation in the system.
Check yourself you shitlord. I bet you are fascist.
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started as nonbinary they/them, went to he/him and now claims to be totes a cis man. this one is just a boob trick you guys.
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Yeah, at this point it's just for attention. Being the generic goth short girl it's not so profitable anymore when her friends are more physically attractive than her for the regular simps.
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He finally came out after saying he's a cis man for years because he was being cancelled for saying the word "tranny"
Apparently he also said some antisemitic stuff and was being racist on Twitter
she didn’t have to “come out” to apologize for offending people. everyone in the replies is like “i’m so sorry KING that some bigot forced you to come out” when she could have just said she was sorry and that she would “be better” instead of using her transness to deflect valid
criticism. but i guess she got the attention she wanted in the end.
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As if anyone with a brain couldn't already tell this was a girl. She's probably on a microdose of T too.
>also from the thumbnail it looks like she's pointing a gun at her head, kek
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I never cared about Cave Town but the moment I saw pic related it was plain as day she was a fakeboi. It's always straight girls who are into the whole, "I'm gay, but no homo" shtick
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Another smart tweet going around saying people whos dislike certain genetalia are transphobes
From the inset image:>Many transgender people have penises or vulvas that look exactly like genitals you are attracted to >EXACTLY
Hell-to-the-fucking-no they don’t! Franken-corn dogs that have an apparatus that needs to be pumped up through their labia-balls? A scarred, weeping flesh tunnel with shriveled “labia”, if they were lucky enough to have them included at all?
These people never want to deal with the consequences of the choices they deliberately made with their bodies. They chose to be removed from a viable dating pool. No invisible force injected those hormones for them or scheduled those surgeries.
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At least she didn’t get disowned on the spot. I feel so sorry for her mom because this chick seems like a spoiled brat.
>how dare she blatantly messed up my pronouns?
Still puts no effort into presenting male. Normally, it takes people a while to adjust using new pronouns because you know, her mom raised her for nearly her whole life.
>Trump-loving Republicans respect my pronouns
Didn’t happen. This is just a way to make the mom look bad.
>But I don’t want to cut my family off
That is not a smart idea. Even as an Asian American, she has the privilege to still be able to talk to her family. She pisses me off so much because most AA kids get disowned at the spot if they come out.
Sage for blogpost
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she’s also “catgender” and goes by a bunch of retarded pronouns kek zoomers are terrible
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She doesn’t even got the top surgery done, she can’t look like an uwu trap, why even bother?
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I'll never understand their obsession with being called "fag"
I always wonder if I should just start identifying as a man despite being an obvious female and being super obnoxious about it like this and see how far I can take it before the super woke people crack. >>1038114
It's the same as AGPs calling themselves "dykes" all the time. It just feels like they're intentionally trying to hurt gay/lesbian people and get their kick out of the powertrip.
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Is she really complaining about cringe trans people? The irony.
>>1037990>I was done putting out so much effort, only to make absolutely no progress whatsoever
Where? When? She has done not a single thing to transition. All her efforts have been focused on trying to force others to change. >>1038036>I’m a boy male man man boy!!!
Screeched no man ever.
You summed up my friend and her gf, their social circle consist of respecting uwu genders and some fujo ships.
It all start because if they can question it, they think they should do something about it. From "I'm supporting the trans" she/her to "What makes me a girl?" she/they to "I don't know who I am" they/them, add some misogyny and she mutates into a he/they.>>1038331
Probably as a way to say "trans rights!", kinda funny when they put "any pronouns" why even bothering with that
The girls I've seen using she/they are always the obnoxious straight girls who are desperate to belong to the Cool Queer Kids block they hang around with so they just bullshit everyone by adding she/they and "pansexual" or "asexual" to their bios to look more "kweer" than they actually are. It's kinda like all the white Anglo Americans who have like 5% cherokee/latin blood and claim to be PoCs.
>is it some kind of "it's okay to use gender neutral pronouns with me uwu" virtue signaling?
Basically yeah. Also the she/they pronouns don't require them to actually commit to being "nonbinary" or "genderfluid" or whatever the fuck but it's a slippery slope to turning full twansmasculine enbie baby uwu in around 9 months, like a gender disaster pregnancy. Just recently witnessed another straight girl I know go down this route.
Even more insufferable than "any pronouns" is when they have this huge fucking list you have to memorize regarding what they want to be called.>okay so you need to use they/them and he/him only on wednesdays and whenever I have this emoji next to my Twitter name but NEVER she/her!!!!>but you still can call me queen, keep in mind "lady" is never appropriate and triggers my dysphoria. btw dude is ok but using "bro" is NOT!!!! it's my cptsd trigger keep that in mind but "bruh" works
Fuck we get it you want to be anything but a woman. It's simply a power trip for them, they love to watch people squirm trying to figure out how to address them without causing them to have a full meltdown and it's a golden ticket to win any argument when you can just explode all over the place instead of remaining sensible.
Most of them still have a conscience cultivated by female socialization i.e. they don't want to force themselves in a space they don't belong into. They'd feel bad claiming to be "nonbinary" when they know they're gender-conforming cis women. But she/they is just an inch off the status quo so they feel at peace putting it on their bio. It's a compromise.
The hyper feminine nonbinary girl is just their next step after marinating in the ideology for a good while to the point they've alienated themselves from all their normal friends and are now surrounded by all these genderspecials influencing them. However I've witnessed so many girls go from putting she/they on their bios while referring to themselves being "cis allies", then at some point start dropping hints they're questioning their identity, then come out as nonbinary, then get a buzzcut and start dressing like an autistic hipster and boom two years later they're 2 months into taking testosterone and making a gofundme for their top surgery. The "It's like a cult" meme has been repeated over and over again but that's basically what it is. When all your friends are neck deep into this shit and constantly lowkey shaming you for being "cis scum" you really don't have much choice other than to leave and risk losing all your social circles.
lmaooooo i thought i was the only one who noticed this>>1034322
i get so confused when i see a fakeboi obsessed with femininity. but not as confused as they are. i think all fakebois who still sexualize women are just lesbians who can't or won't admit it, and thus they try to take on a masculine identity to feel more comfortable about it
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Don't know if this belongs here since this is for fakebois and I don't know if ftm counts but this person got dick and balls stitched onto them but kept their vagina too. Like that one dude who kept his penis and drilled a pussy. Just thought it was interesting.
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The 'penis' is so fucking weird in motion too. This is an nsfw gif of her peeing and the bendiness of the dick off the fucking charts. Peeings looks like a chore carrying all that lump of flesh.
Here is an archrive of her blog I saw on kf where you can tell the surgeon stiched the dick a little off centrehttps://web.archive.org/web/20190603055317/https://myphallodiary.home.blog/2019/05/31/sexy-phallo-post-op-dick-pictures-fresh-and-hard/
Jesus fucking Christ that’s awful
This is just like Sorren’s. Honestly this kinda shit should be banned. It does not seem worth it at all.
Jesus those balls are so tight they look like they belong on a French Bulldog.>>1039324
all the girls want balls and a catheter. totes a real boy now.>>1039344
I'm actually a cis woman and I've been misgendered as "sir" multiple times because i have very short hair. It doesn't bother me because it's an honest mistake not a dig.
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Shitkweers are so shit at threats, this is "step on a lego" level. They never leave their house anyway, nobody would take them seriously.
This, but also I've noticed that many of my enby and fakeboy acquaintances have started using english in all of their social media, even facebook where they don't have any english friends on, just so they could paste their special info on their profile and screech about it. We have only gender neutral pronouns in our language and no-one calls anyone madam or sir here so I guess they have to make up something to be mad about? I hate how USA-centric everything is, like we have our own problems here, but no, everyone wants to be mad for the burgerfags and their problems smh>>1039352>This is worse than what the nazis did to people and these idiots do it to themselves.
It's so tragicomic, don't know whether to kek or cry>>1039479>But kek I'm actually surprised they're not mad that the one universal gender neutral pronoun is erasing muh gender identities.
I've actually witnessed this once, but thank god she got criticized by the other enbies and trannies for it and found something else to cry about. It was a couple of years ago tho, so maybe it would be taken differently now. I wish I had gotten screenshots, it was surreal
Same and even after living in an English speaking country for years I still sometimes mess up pronouns when I'm tired/drunk or speaking fast because my brain automatically wants to use just the same pronouns (she/her for some reason) for everyone 'cause that's what my first language uses.
I haven't had anyone yell at me for misgendering them yet but I guess it's bound to happen soon
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The absolute state of the world
>>1039474> and some newspeak inclusive language is making its way into the mainstream, I hate it.
Me too, anon, it sucks and the ~*inclusive*~ way of writing makes stuff look retarded, at least there’s neutral speech in other languages so it a bit less annoying to read if you ignore the context.
But fuck, something inside me dies whenever I get to read a word like “latinxs” or “hermanx” it’s so fucking lazy.
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I was checking some mutuals from my old friend's social circle (mostly troons) and they are evolving, I don't know if going from trans boi to demi-boy sounds like an in-coming detransition or a further denial. I noticed most of them started to promote their paypal.me in bio and share e-begging posts for transitions. One of them even RT tweet about "Not dating a trans is transphobic" that was posted in the MtF thread, surprised to be dissapointed.
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this cannot be serious jfc
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Fake and basic is off her rocker. Ah, yes, those mundane cissies so satisfied with their womanhood
People on the internet saying "I am a boy" just means "I'm a dumpy, somewhat unattractive girl", I swear.
I don't get how they don't notice actual males pretty much never casually call themselves "boys", either. Only fujoshi and LARPing tomboys.
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I used to know this girl back in college and she recently came out as a trans man on her social medias. I'm so disappointed, she was alway very butch and out as a lesbian, her parents even supported her, and now she has fallen for the trans meme. She says that she's always felt this way, but I'm calling bullshit on this, being active in the libfem lgbt community probably influenced her. I'm really wondering how her girlfriend (very femme but very loud about being a lesbian) feels, she's somewhat encouraging her on social medias, is she happy that she is going to become more masculine? Is she going to become one of those fabled "bi lesbians"?
Pic related is her latest tattoo, she's even going for the fakeboi uwu shit, this woman is at least 28 ffs.
She’s not even giving people an option to give a real opinion.>do you transition anyway and risk losing your partner?>or do you stay in your relationship and give up a crucial part of your self-expression?
Bitch, just admit you want to keep that guy locked in a basement and that you will stab any woman who passes by your house.
Why do they always have to be “soft”
This is practically a meme at this point
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something they should all be reminded of.
an anon pointed in the last thread that these Hebrew names have the right amount of uniqueness to seem different but familiar. and also allows them the appearance of opting into oppression and adopting the ‘nice soft Jewish boy’ stereotype
you know the meek, scrawny glasses wearing sorta of unmasculine young man
A lot of women find that type of man attractive, especially ones who are more introverted and nervous.
They are becoming the boyfriend.
Japanese fujos don't troon out en masse and fujos pre-2015 were just lesbians. The big wave of them transitioning started happening once transgenderism became a forced trend and liking BL/yaoi was declared "problematic
" if you're a woman because you're "fetishizing gay men". Because nobody wants to be an icky oppressor they decided they'll just become the gay men and that's that. If nobody intervened with girls figuring out their sexuality like this it wouldn't happen so much, a lot of "gay" FTMs are just lesbians with extra steps as they tend to date only other fakebois.
it’s internalised misogyny and self-hatred mixing to combine into someone who legally changes their name to castiel 99% of the time>>1041301
are you okay? can you learn how to reply to things before you start trying to post? this is a mess
I'd say mostly genetics but lifestyle surely plays a big part in it as well, from what I've seen plenty of trans guys are going for the ~gay bear~ look these days which is basically just looking as chubby, hairy and ungroomed as possible (because letting yourself go and drink beer everyday (because that's such a manly thing to do) is obviously a lot easier than going to the gym and eat healthy foods)
As for the question why such a lot of them suddenly turn "gay", I honestly have no answer. With fakebois it's obviously just an obsession with yaoi in most cases but with people who seem to be genuinely commited to being trans men (inb4 "all trans men are fakebois!!1!", I didn't ask, not the point of this post) who went from being lesbian (or mostly female-attracted) to being "gay" I really can't think of an explanation. Maybe it's related to hormones? idk
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>>1041318>In addition she was a male-repulsed lesbian for years, then trooned out and now he's a "gay man" i.e. attracted to men.
I've been lurking a few places where de-trans people talk about their experiences and that seems to be a sorta common a thing. Not sure why, but it is for sure related to the hormones/T.>>1041295
I don't think yaoi is solely responsible, but I do think it's an amalgamation of insecurity, confusion, and coomer brain. Cosplay seems to draw these people in too. Saw this in the reccs of that girl crying about "stop fetishizing mlms" up thread. LIKE it's obvious this is not a real man but maybe that's the appeal to them? And I'm sure these kind of people get off on the attention. Just feels like one big role play.
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I hate that I know this but. There was an ftm porn site a few years ago called bonus hole boys, run by an ftm and starring them. Lots of the content was 'look I'm totally a twink faggot and real gay men fuck me'
But every cismale featured on the site was bi. The one 'gay porn star' that perplexed me at the time…actually went on to change his porn name and do the crossover from gay porn star to doing all straight porn. Dunno if the site is still up, can't imagine there's huge demand for it.
kind of a long vid, but explains it perfectly. the lgbtqa+++ community has gotten incredibly toxic
and overrun by men and fakebois.
she talks about going to a festival where only women born as women are allowed and i 100% support that. trannies always cry terf to that because they have to be involved in everything and enjoy making actual women uncomfortable
This was insightful and sad. I cried. And she’s right, people hate women so much, that girls/women are turning theirselves into gay men because that’s more accepted. I mean think of shows like queer eye or drag race? Is there a lesbian butch equivalent for that?! Where it’s normalized and funny like gay men are? Sorry if I’m sperging, but it really is so sad… the trans community is so fucking fucked up and hypocritical. It’s either mtf(men) trying to align themselves with cis/bio-woman experiences and completely invade their spaces, or girls hating their femininity so much that they convince themselves they are GAY MEN?! Like what?!!!
I’m so happy she made this video though because it could really help a lot of girls and women. I have a client who is ftm and is dating another ftm (top surgery, hormones, and all) and I’ve always thought that was weird because wouldn’t they just be lesbians? And now after watching this I feel so sad for these obviously misguided girls.
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Of course she's just a white girl with hairy armpits
Holy shit this video. >"When I learned about what a lesbian was the only "lesbians" I knew were like non-binary women who called themselves pansexual but only dated.. females. Like at the time I couldn't identify that but now I can.">"MTFs like males who call themselves lesbians, those were really the only people I knew who were lesbians for my teenage years.">"Like the first "lesbian" I ever met was a trans woman who came to give us sex ed at one of the youth groups I used to hang out at."
My god that's sad. I didn't even know it had gotten this bad now. It's no wonder so many of them are just "gay men" i.e. nonbinary transmasculine AFABs dating other women.
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Got an exit plan?
For some, I think being in a relationship “as a man” to some extent with a “man” (cis or fakeboi) has a higher appeal than a traditional heterosexual relationship. It can, at a baseline, feel more equal.
And even for those that don’t pass, some female-attracted cis dudes will approach and treat a fakeboi differently than a normal girl, and I think that relationship dynamic is more comfortable for some women.
Some bisexual women identify solely as lesbians because of the way 99% of men would treat them or the implication of how they’re being viewed fucks them up. If the guy is attracted to her as “totally a boy,” the baseline for how he needs to be (somewhat liberal, ally or bisexual, probably more submissive and passive) is gonna change a little.
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not sure if anybody remembers oliver @crypwolf as its been quite a few threads since they were mentioned and she has little online presence now, but she seems to be detransitioning. she is still going by oliver instead of madison and says she uses they/them pronouns, but shes wearing makeup and growing her hair out and says shes realized a lot about herself and is on some kind of discovery journey or something.
good for her honestly. she deleted her instagram some time ago and isnt much on social media anymore, i dont think she ever went on hormones or anything. shes actually quite pretty. i hope more fakebois end up going this route. cant help but wonder if her ditching the popular internet soft boy account helped start this
I think a lot of girls get this idea that to be attracted to men as a woman, especially a feminine woman, makes you a boring yucky gross weak slut. While if they're somehow not a woman it lets them avoid that. Plus the fact that being lgbt/queer is a fad and in certain circles you'll get bullied if you aren't.
These girls really need to learn it's ok to be a straight or bi woman, even a feminine one, as well as how to recognize and properly deal with internalized misogyny.
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She has this screenshot on her Facebook of one of the last times she was posted here and it sounds like it was written by the same person who wrote the new one. Maybe she’s desperate for attention. I supposed it sucks to be a boring NEET. kek
not a selfpost nor the first person who posted her in the old thread. just an idiot who forgot to include her url. i stumbled upon her tumblr crypticcanine by accident and recognized her. i think its the only place she still has any sort of public online presence. she mentions an instagram for her pets but i dont know it.
i dont think shes milky, i was just pleasantly surprised to see a former fakeboi give up the act and thought others would like to know we arent entirely fucked, given the last couple posts about how sad it is that so many girls are turning to this trend. maybe there is hope.
Saging for blogpost, but, 100% this. Went through this with my current gf, who's got bad body dysmorphia and trauma from past relationships, but because she's got a lot of trender friends, she was Convinced that she's nonbinary and asexual (but definitely a prime target to get manipulated into the gay trans man bs)
All it took was me explaining that there's a difference between body dysmorphia and gender dysphoria, and that she should consider talking through that and some trauma with a professional before trooning out… While her friends swore she didn't need therapy, and was just trans. A couple months of "they/them" pronouns/short hair/binders and therapy, and she's learned that all she needs is support while working through her PTSD, not to troon out.
There's a reason trenders bitch about the "restrictions" of having to talk to a gender therapist, and why a lot of detransitioners wish they had therapists that genuinely gave a shit about their mental health vs Woke Points. If any of these women got the therapy, this whole craze would be Over.
Good for her, too bad cried wolves didnt do the same. >>1043791
At least none of them defend fakebois
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Yes, yes you are
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Tbh they're probably underage. I hope.
Fuck I started watching Shameless recently and am already dreading the seasons this girl appears. I’ve found a few Reddit posts complaining about how annoying she is too. Apparently Ian (gay, one of the main characters) ends up dating this tranny for a bit but she’s super toxic
and flies off the rails a lot for no reason. So, mentally ill straight girl, what’s fuckin new
Sage for blogpost, I recently met up with a high school friend I had not talked to in a long while and now she's a full on fakeboi. She's always been a fujo, so I probably should have expected this, but I hoped she would turn out smarter than that. She now goes by a Turkish name, despite not being Turkish at all, it's actually her ex boyfriend's name. Her ex-boyfriend who later came out as gay. To top it all, she used to be openly bisexual, but now dismisses her attraction to women as "compulsory heterosexuality" since she's a "gay man". Still into fandoms, still a shipper, nearly had an argument with her because I said this video game character is just a bi man who crossdressed once and not any flavor of gender shit. It's so weird seeing this kind of people in my mostly very conservative, non-Anglosphere area.
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Not sure if this has been posted already. Just thought this was funny.
I only have this article of Terre des Femmes in German, but it translates to:
-in Munich alone there are 8 times more women wanting to be men, then vice versa.
Previously they say that internalized misogyny might be the reason for that and that lesbian girls and women are more likely to get upset over their sexualization- hence becoming men.
Maybe some of us terfs can use this when argueing- since TDF is a non-proft for women.https://www.frauenrechte.de/unsere-arbeit/themen/frauenhandel/mythen-der-prostitution
Terf de femmes has already been cancelled by the woke crowd so they won't work as a credible source for people that are already in the bubble.
That makes me think that this kind of cancelling rhetoric works really well to defund activist NGOs, instead making people think they're doing good by donating to random tranny surgery gofundmes. I wonder how much the porn and prostitution lobby is actually pushing the swerf and terf talk and then letting Twitter wokies do the work of decrediting women's organizations with abolitionist agendas for them.
Truscum are genuinely more crazy than the “uwu valid
Not to mention more hypocritical. They're all for "facts not feels!!!" until you remind them that gay men don't want them and their pube beards either no matter how much they bash "cis" women and "transtrenders".
In my experience, most fakebois who explicitly wanted "cis" men only and would never go for another fakeboi were also truscum. They would still expect gay guys to be attracted to them because something something secondary sex characteristics though.
your post reminded me of this (german) video and i think it raises valid
points. most ftm/agender/nonbinary people i know have a history of feeling uncomfortable around men because they are objectified and sexualized all the time. most of them are also way more attracted to women than they are attracted to men. i think it's really important for these people to sit down and have a good hard look at themselves and their own sexuality and realize that being a woman and having sexual desires and having these sexual desires towards other women is good and healthy and not shameful. plus, i know so many girls from different classes i took over the past few years who really REALLY need to come to terms with their sexuality and their womanhood. they are going to regret this so much in a few years and they'll wonder why they went on T when they were in their early 20s and ruined their bodies.
Good point. the video has English subtitles, if anyone is interested.
I'm also mad at the comments being all super positive and not one percent critical of the mtf and fmt ratio.
This is legit horrifying. A Franken dick and Franken balls over the top of a functional vagina. It's only a matter of time before one of these freaks gives birth and the OBGYN reacts with horror.
I used to think my private area was embarrassing. Not anymore. Whenever I feel bad I'll just think about these frankenbois.
At the very least at least she can get that surgical growth amputated and still have her actual vagina if she changes her mind.
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Spoiler for fake dick on an obviously female body. This shit just weirds me out so much.
Also, one thing I always notice about FTMs (especially when I have seen them in person) is that they just look ill/sick in the face? I don’t know if it’s just me, but something about them always comes off that way. And there’s just something extremely uncanny then, with rounder faces and softer eyes, and the weird voice. They are almost always completely clockable to me - I have seen some photos of ones who work out a lot who look more like men but I’m sure in person their voice or height would give them away.
why does it look higher than it should be?
Imagine going from having something functional to being stuck with a function-less meat sausage
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Randomly came across this person, was she already discussed? I admit I'm lost in this sea of weeb hyper feminine fakebois. Also, Undertale and JJBA, the jokes write themselves at this point.
For the vast majority, erection is not possible. Some have a penis pump implanted that they can use to create a psuedoerection by squeezing the trigger
located in their neoballs. Less common are metal rods that literally crank the dick into an erect position. >Sorry, babe, hold on. I gotta squeeze my balls real quick to inflate my dick just like a normal, fully functional male human. Oh wait, nvm, I just need to lock my steel dick into place like a freakish LEGO. I’m so glad I decided to Frankenstein my body instead of buying a strap on.
N E O B A L L S.
Perfectly sane and healthy.
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Went to her Instagram to see the people she follows and as expected it's just an overall cringefest, wouldn't be surprised if she's this salty because one of her friends got posted on here in the past
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I had to pause when I saw this shit, lmao. Too embarrassing.
omg she sounds slow>incels, incels
couldn't even research the website shes spewing about. she probably googled one of her tranny friends & found the thread that way since shes not familiar w/ lolcow
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AHAHAHAH AHA HA HAHA HA
spoiled for the dick
And they’re both women!>>1049428>whether people think transgenderism is real or not
Lol it’s not
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imagine thinking that you can and should do youtube videos with a shitty voice like that.
pic related, why are these kids stuck in tumblr speak from a few years ago? even fandom moms who still use smexy and xD are more likable than people who type like that.
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she didnt appreciate that anon…
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Don't worry anon, she uses both!
Lol saying we're incels and exposing minors. She has no idea what website she's talking about. Also most people know this website is "problematic
" (using that word according to their standards) everything here is just shit talking. I don't get the point of this video.
IIRC, it's the same kind of implant that cis men can get for severe ED, and it's some kind of fluid.
And to other folks, there are some surgeons that are okay at the placement, but the super high ones are usually the fakebois who want to keep their vag, which also usually means that they opt to continue to use it for all previous functions, so it literally is just… a tube of fat, sitting awkwardly on their pelvis. Super fascinating rabbit hole to go down if you're curious, but may just make you disappointed in humanity.
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and looks like she kind of noticed us
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Feel kind of bad now that it’s obvious she’s underage
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I checked her about section and she is, I should have checked sooner cause now I also feel kinda bad.
If they’re over 16 they’re technically fair game
Anons that bombed her with dislikes are idiots though. Yt engagement weights likes & dislikes the same
I find it weird these kids act so sjw but will crack jokes about aids, not very epic.>>1050918
noticed this too!
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The fact this was written unironically disturbs me
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this girls been circling around in Facebook groups that talks about the female sex and always, ALWAYS makes the topic about how she and “other gay men” can have/like vaginas. she just looks like a dumpy lesbian?
While it's true that porn has made a whole generation of women angsty about their prominent labia minora, I highly doubt a gay man was okay with a "bussy".
Except of course she doesn't mean a gay man she means a FTM who used to identify as a straight woman.
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Liberals are like "If cis people put their pronouns in bios, it'll help trans people pass"
but seeing someone so visibly female put "he/him" always gets a laugh out of me.
who is that?>>1052039
Yuri Ayoto from Yarichin Bitch Club. Basically every negative stereotype about gay men into one package of degeneracy.
oh no no no lmao, i know this girl. Shes been talked about in a Kiwi thread about tearzah/dollieguts.
she defended this trainwreck, also her artstyle is very very tearzah like. Man how can you not research the website you're on before assuming everyone here is a scrote? lol
Ironically when gay men play the part of "yaoi shamers" they always target these delusional fucks who think they're ~ackshual gay men~ despite being born as female, raised as a female and representing as extremely effeminate because yeah, why wouldn't you think they're completely insane? These girls accuse of regular fujos of fetishizing gay men while they themselves accept only wholesome lil bean uwu coffeeshop AU "representation" that's all snuggles and kisses on the cheeks, as if that wasn't embarrassingly infantilizing. >>1052201
Yeah imagine if men suddenly started shaming all the AGPs and other degenerates lusting after the rapiest yuri material i.e. most of it. It would never happen. Women are just socialized to keep each other in check and that's bullshit. If this whole movement forcing the "if you're a cis woman and like yaoi you're a fetishizing racist white karen appropriating Asian POC MLM LGBT representation" meme didn't exist we wouldn't have so many girls transitioning in droves.
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finalgrrlz/amabsupremacist's word salad isn't really milky but she's been under fire recently for posting about being a Trump supporter. Shes claiming someone edited the post but a handful of people saw it before it was taken down kek
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shes claiming to be a mexican who was deportrd now, regardless of if its shooped or not thats funny
I'm sure she also claimed >>1052686
, there is a screenshot in the previous thread… so "Black Mexican Jewish Palestinian who was also deported by Trump and has family in Palestine" so far. Surprising she doesn't also claim East Asian. Or maybe she does and I missed it?
Shooped or not, doesn't make her any less of a sex-faking, race-faking, pick-me 'tard.
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Someone I follow shared this in their IGstory, I guess they're being woke or wahtever. It talks aout all the dissapointment Testorone can cause. Then says "you're still a valid
man" even if it doesn't make you look like a man.https://www.instagram.com/p/CF2BOTSh-rN/
>>1053321>The untold tales of T
I thought the doctors made sure they are aware of the side effect? Don't they read the papers??
"Due to the nature of social media and conventional standards of beauty, we only hear and see a small number of the changes testosterone brings. If you’re thinking about going on T, or have had changes from T you didn’t expect, (…)"
" Trans individuals who wish they had certain effects made more aware (or was lacking at the time in media)"
OH. Of course social medias was their only reliable source.
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Samefagging, because I couldn't post caps last night. Flag discoursers are insane
there is SO MUCH to unpack. why say "folx and dudex" as if changing the plural indicator to x makes it any more inclusive??? not to mention folks is gender neutral in the first place what!! and do these people even know what an orientation is? (kek don't answer that)
is this kid saying they're sexually attracted to the colors of a flag?? or are they saying that, for example, if a straight person vibes with rainbows and finds them visually appealing, that makes them gay? what?
i thought i was used to tumblr autist logic but clearly i haven't suffered enough. sage for sperg
I watched a video yesterday by a detrans and she explained that she got her hormones through planned parenthood, never had to see a psychologist or doctor? She just got T without anyone thinking twice so I highly doubt everyone is well aware of what happens when you take hormones
(video for reference havent watched it in full but it was a wild watch)
Oh yeah I actually only found out about it through twitter back when I was still using it. Then tweeted about how I cannot believe that people actually identify as xenogender and that those people seem to get such a lot of validation online and lost a bunch of followers over it because how could I dare to be this "transphobic and ableist"
Those people really took "I identify as an attack helicopter" to the next level
„I‘m not like other girls“ is misogynistic af. We all are different from each other, there‘s no need to put a woman down Especially when you ARE a woman.
He/him lesbians were a thing when lesbians were chased and murdered for officially stating they are homo; so they pretended to be men to pass.
Decorating yourself with a label lesbians needed to surive makes me puke.
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It doesn't work like that.
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Imagine thinking that liking a literal girl makes you any less of a lesbian. This is actually really sad tbh
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this looks so much like a terve psyop but apparently this person also has other social media links but so did autistically dedicated troll galaxyprincet who went at it for literal years before admitting he was trolling on kiwifarms
i don't know what to think anymore, my brain hurts
What do half of these even mean?
That sounds like a medical condition
"mlm" fakeboi: I'M A MAN I'M A REAL MAN NOT A MAN-LITE STOP REDUCING ME TO MY VAGINA YOU CHASER DYKE ALSO I'M GAY GAY GAY I LIKE MEN REEEEE
how the fuck do these people not realize they're not any different from the "cishet" women who throw a fit every time a lesbian looks in their direction?
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the joke writes itself
An accurate description of what happens when these people meet lesbians tbh. It's like the homophobic HSTSs who hate cis gay men with a passion because they're comfortable being gay and their bible-thumped asses think it's disgusting and a sin, except with fakebois they're after men and other FTMs.
But god I want to die every time I see a "gay" FTM couple bitch about how they hate being seen as "lesbians" because WE'RE NOT GROSS DYKES EWWWW. Like it's really telling when the worst thing you could be called is a lesbian couple even though that's how 99% of the world sees you as and that's what you are.
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"He/they&neos" spotted claiming making fun of neopronoun xenogender BS is ableism. She also claims to be 14 and living in South Korea. The former I can believe, the latter is probably a lie to get clout with other Koreaboo tiktok kids (like how back in the day obviously white weebs would lie about being part Japanese).
i've seen this tattoo artist anonymously complaining in a tumblr ask to some terf blog about having to do pronoun tattoos and she can't just reject them because if "tranzphobia!!!"
She also said she would rather do tramp stamps. But what about… pronoun tramp stamps?? like has any fakeboi thought of that? I imagine it might come handy when hooking up with """"""gay"""""" men so they wouldn't "accidentally" slip up
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this was a comment on a post by a woman who thought she might be trans but was worried about "leaving womanhood and lesbianism behind." but transgenderism is so progressive right? not like you can be a woman and not be feminine, butch women don't exist i guess.
Twitter constantly has kids bullshitting about being Japanese/Korean. Just recently came across one who was obviously a teenager girl claiming to be a "Japanese gay man", she only tweeted in English using anglosphere lingo or occasionally in very broken Japanese, had no photos or selfies or pretty much any proof of being Japanese to begin with. But you're just supposed to take everything as a fact because they say so and doubting means you're a racist. >>1056995
God. The last time I checked I had a vagina and have been a woman all my life despite not dollying myself up 2 hours every day. This is basically "I had internalized the mindset of associating womanhood with every shallow extreme unrealistic expectation based on being a woman so I decided to become a man so that I can have more to my personality than worrying over a zit". ´
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This is the same person. Why are they like this?
here is the tumblr post ripping that reddit story apart
imagine being gullible enough to believe this yet still laughing at all the boomers falling for fake news on facebook
my god this is the most autistic fujo larp i've ever seen. no wonder all those websites ate it up, it resonated with all the fujos-in-denial fakebois
the fact that people thought that a 29 year old rich businessman could ever type like that is what gets me. I guess if you spend all day reading yaoi fanfiction you start to think all people type like this. damn
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This was in my Insta feed as an ad. What the fuck am I looking at?
I get that it's like>look at my very masculine body hair
but it's so off putting when it's literally on tits.
i love having a hairy ass crack on my chest. really makes me feel like i’m one of the boys.
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just seen a documentary on youtube where a ftm cut their breasts off and preserved them in jars which they then presented at their "museum of transology." spoilering them.
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another fun screencap from that doc
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what the actual fuck. mento illness indeed, luv.
If I took my tits off I'd try to eat them as steak with butter and herbs or something, the layer of fat must make it very flavorful.
What a waste.
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I know GoFundMes are dime a dozen nowadays, but I really don't see why I, a random person on the internet, should donate to Decora Deku's mutilation surgery when I'm completely unrelated to her and will never meet her irl. Also, she looks so fucking young, I always get creeped when I see 15 years old self proclaimed Aidens, but wanting to get rid of your breasts when they are probably not done developing is nauseating, trans propaganda will be the end of zoomers.
Her insurance is paying for it. The gfm is just for 'post op supplies'.
When a lot of these people decide they made a poor decision and want to sue somebody they're shit out of luck. Oooh the age limit should've been a lot higher than 18, just like for sex.
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That username too lol
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This is just being straight
At this point, why not just be a tomboy into guys? It’s not a sin and some men actually prefer tomboys.
Do they really think being gay is like the pretty boy
If your question wasn't rhetorical, there is an amount of pressure in twitter circles to be at least somewhat bicurious if you're visibly masculine/GNC I think. Some people get confused about their self-expression clashing with their attraction to men. I'm pretty masculine, and I used to hang out with people like these and I'd get called a "lesbian/bisexual in denial", despite saying I'm heterosexual and comfortable with that.
Other things that play a part are autoandrophilia, expressing discomfort in the heterosexual "man-dominating-woman" power dynamic, and fujos.>>1059974>my attraction to men made me feel inadequate as a queer
yeah, no shit, sherlock.
I don't understand who gives these people money, because while there are a sea of these campaigns that go nowhere, there are plenty that do get their $$k goals met, that's why so many turn to it in the first place.
I can't imagine that "normie" working people that come home, talk to their friends on social media and then watch netflix come across something like this and say "hell yeah, I have 500 bucks to spend on this enby to pay off her rent". Who the fuck are these donors?
>>1059974>literally says she was ashamed of being a heterosexual so trooned out to be gay
Straight from the horse's mouth. Pun not intended. >>1060568
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the aliexpress ears and choker are really the icing on this delusional cake
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the ebony dark'ness dementia raven way vibes this gives me
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Another day, another they/he on twitter with an inflated ego. What's going on with her eyebrows?
My god this thread is cringe as fuck, I had to pick out 2 comments that stood out to me in particular. A lot of the other comments mentioned being introduced to BL at an early age. In the same vein, someone in the thread linked this:https://www.reddit.com/r/ftm/comments/5valse/lets_talk_about_gay_manga/?utm_source=amp&utm_medium=&utm_content=post_body
It's exactly what you would imagine, fujoshits patting themselves on the back for being "not like the other girls" and having a special connection to yaoi. There's so much schizoposting about feeling an extraordinary connection to yaoi, that it was more than a girl oogling at two gay guys and more about wanting to become the hot boy in the yaoiz they read. There's also a worrying amount of fakebois in the thread that are either in their mid twenties or mid-to-late thirties, even one poster at 39. Greasy as shit, transitioning because of manga at that age.
It’s dumb when they are like i-I was exposed to it v-vewwy young uwu
bitch, there’s people out there having shit lives, looking up weird ass shit on the internet since they were as young as 8 or 9 years old or seeing fucked up shit live, yet they’re not out there making a fool out of themselves by fucking up their bodies.
Yeah easily available hardcore pornography to people as young as 10 CLEARLY has no negative effect on society at all…
Nah, all these zoomers will grow up with a really unhealthy and fucked up idea of sex, cause they will never get to experience it in a natural way, they will think you need to start off by spitting in each others mouths and doing anal, cause that's what they see day in and day out on the internet. Porn is really fucking detrimental to young peoples understanding of sexuality and they shouldn't be exposed to it at all.
You still had fucked up trannies and perverts before internet pornography was so widespread, but it has definitely increased by tenfolds. Especially considering we are not allowed to "kinkshame" anymore. Now you got 10 year olds looking at trap-porn and thinking that shit is normal.
>>1062753>wished I had a flat chest and smooth features instead of my curvy self
Weird humblebrag but ok>But I wished I was a "pretty" boy
Why is it that het tifs never want to look like actual men? They always wanna look like anime-bishounen-uke types (that just look like androgynous women)>I liked being very short
So manly uwu>always wanted to wear cute oversized sweaters and have cute boyish haircuts
You can have those things as a woman too tf>A lot of people shamed me
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Anybody who's still denying how big of a factor yaoi plays in the mass trooning of girls is delusional af. Anime got popular in the west in the 00s and now you suddenly have 20 to 40 year olds wanting to look like ukes. Kpop got popular in the west in like 2015 and now you suddenly have a bunch of teengirls skinwalking male idols. That's not a coincidence. Of course those kids were lonely losers to begin with, but if they spent their free time consuming other media they very likely wouldn't have turned out this way.
Of course it's the same for scrotes wanting to look like big titty animuh girls as well.
I left this cause it really does show that Blanchard's theories are correct.
I feel like AGP gets most of the attention, and cases of autoandrophilic behavior like this are ignored.
And like what >>1062877
this is definitely a result of coomer/porn brain. I suspect this is why studies on porn exposure aren't done, because as we can see, interestingly enough. Porn seems to have a similar effect on female brains as it does make ones and is gateway to tranny shit.
To say all of this and still not realize it’s a fetish kek. Not being able to separate your porn fantasies from reality and living them is a zoomer disease for sure, at least when it comes to ftms. AGP men have always been degenerate, though. >>1062877> they will think you need to start off by spitting in each others mouths and doing anal, cause that's what they see day in and day out on the internet
Legitimately and unironically true, it’s really sad and gross.
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Jesus what the fuck is this sub
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And we're supposed to support that
wouldn't having penis in vagina sex give them "disphoria" or whatever? Do they do anal exclusively and say "pretend my vagina isn't there!! don't touch it!!"
I just can't imagine how these snowflakes have (what is essentially heterosexual) sex without being super triggered
If genitals are not gender signifiers, what is?? The way people are presenting? But boys can wear skirts
. This makes so little sense. Why even bother with gender at this point?
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found a facebook tubie (munchie?) fakeboi and with a picture of her pregnant belly as her cover photo. she was in a group raging about how babies & toddlers can be given feeding tubes & arguing with people about munchausens by proxy kek
For some reason it doesn't seem to bother them.
It's not dissimilar from the AGP counterparts who just want access to lesbians as the ultimate form of validation. It's the same exact thing but in the inverse, they just want "gay" and bi men to fuck em.>>1062884
Yea I don't think that factor should be overlooked. Just think about it in a 20 year timeline. I'm my 30s. So think about it in 2000 you had gundam wing and such yaoi become a staple of otaku culture for women online in that decade.
Since then, I'd say about 2013, since the "great awokening" happened as I call it (think mosern race politics, transgenderism) went into hyperdrive. So starting in the mid 2010s you now have young impressionable zoomers girls, exposed to porn at an early age, yaoi, etc, now throw kpop boys into the mix with trans shit, and you have what you are seeing today.
I think it's just that the current culture of the west enables and promotes this sort of behavior. Becoming a fakeboi makes you stunning and brave, it makes you special.
Girls see their peers trooning out, getting tons of attention, and decide they mast have gender dysphoria too.
I think japanese fujos know how to keep what they enjoy separated from their real lives, that way there's no wanting to become a soft yaoi gayboy. Also what >>1063121
said. There's also thankfully insane gatekeeping in Japan, and children can't pursue criminal charges against their parents for not letting them transition.
I don't know who's idea was it to let coombrained male or female teenagers transition, but they're a fucking idiot.
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i have caps from the thread. op asks about her friend & goes into detail, definitely sounds like she has munchausens by proxy. this is what the fakeboi has to say
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after this she resorts to calling the other poster "ableist"
At this point this gets brought up so many times it should be included in the OP or something. A lot of BL is created by women for women and coincidentally a lot of BL mangakas are lesbian or bi, so they're mostly taking the concept of male gender and making their characters and their dynamics feminine-coded behavior and personally wise, but using male bodies to avoid sexualizing their own gender and allowing enough mental distance for the reader not to be too attached. That's also why so many fujos are lesbian and why almost all fujo-inspired fakebois date only other fakebois.
The current wave of fakebois were inspired by the faux-woke "reee you can't read gay stuff if you're a girl you're fetishizing homosexual men" so they just ended up trooning out because they don't want to be a homophobe and because the current trend is to erase lesbians and GNC women from existence altogether. As an oldfag before this whole tranny craze fujos never claimed to be male but plenty of them weren't straight. It's closer to the self-hating HSTS type of MTF tranny than AGPs, the true autoandrophiles who get a sexual kick out of presenting as a gay man are much rarer.
everyone is overcomplicating this
Fujo recipe >be female>be 12>hate puberty because your body starts growing /bleeding/ stinking and gross men start leering at you >be horny as hell though>find yaoi>enjoy totally safe and rejection-free sexy fantasy world >no women in stories to remind you that YOU are expected to be a perfect porn princess when you feel like a sweaty pimply stretch-marked mistake
Bonus round >be autistic >decide that because the fantasy feels good it must be more real than real life >transition>be miserable >descend ever deeper into fantasy world for comfort >escalate degeneracy>make an alt Twitter account to ree about how shota is a valid way to cope with trauma
Choose your ending >detransition>41%
I love this, anon.
I read a book called "Starving Girls" about the history of anorexia nervosa - it described how in the late 1800s/early 1900s, our understanding of deliberate starvation morphed from being viewed as a religious practice into a mental illness. The book goes into detail about the pressures put on young wealthy Victorian girls - they had to wear corsets, couldn't vote, couldn't get a job, were expected to be subservient to their father, then husband, etc. With limited avenues for self expression, refusing to eat, and starving to the point they became bedridden (and thus unable to be married off), was one of the few means of protest they had available.
I think in addition to increased popularity of yaoi manga, recently systemic sexism has been a topic in the news and media (think the #metoo movement). Girls internalize the message that being a woman means walking the fine line between being a prude and a slut, a pushover and a bitch, too ugly or too vain if they're pretty. I think a lot of young girls understand being a woman means being taken less seriously in academia, being catcalled, being paid less, etc. In addition to trooning out due to yaoi, I think a lot of girls see sexism all around them and internalize it, and they say "Well since there's no way to win at being a woman, I'm not going to play the game." There are deffo some girls who troon out because they think all other girls are stupid sluts and bitches, and they are ~not like the other girls~ and therefore must not be a girl. But there are also girls who see other girls as beautiful perfect goddesses, and see themselves as ugly gremlins, so they assume they ~must not be a girl~ because they feel like they're failing to live up to the unrealistic standards of womanhood.
>>1065786>anons explain that the male characters are meant to be perceived more as females in male bodies than actual men which is also why the sex is usually left very vague genital-wise>IDGI ANON WHY WOULD LESBIANS GET OFF TO THIS
well if you want to just firmly believe it's the oversimplified genderswap of AGP instead of women being raised to hate their bodies and lesbians being sexualized to all hell causing them to be repulsed by WLW erotica then be my guest>>1065796
This is basically the simplified version of the whole scheme. For FTMs it's way more nuanced than the whole AGP bullshit of coomerism where aggressive, male-socialized men publicly tweet about wanting catgirl headpats and to forcibly rape gendercrit women.
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Take a peek at the twitter tags on this one.>>1065796>decide that because the fantasy feels good it must be more real than real life >Coomers gonna Coom
Seems pretty accurate. Both are pornsick and annoying as fuck, but now you can't cuss out fakebois for spamming gay erotica every single place they're in, person they talk to and fandom they interact with.
Oh dude that book was so interesting, very cool to see someone mention it in the wild.
I think this is a really good point too–NLOG is part of all this, but the sense of "other girls are so good at being a girl and i'm so fucking bad at it" is def part of it too, and there's no shortage of shit that makes even the most gorgeous and conventionally feminine girl feel like she's failing out there
Japan is still, despite having moved forward in many ways, a very traditional country with gender roles and a culture of respect and hierarchy. It's weird to me in a way, like women who marry well are almost expected not to continue working themselves. But on the other hand, people drink too much after work and fall asleep on the street and no one steals their stuff.
I think it's the defined roles and expectations that mean fetishistic manga is an interest only and not something to be lived out by becoming your very own bimbo girlfriend.
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>wanting to irrevocably damage your body by taking unnecessary cross-sex hormones because you get cold sometimes
Now I've truly seen it all.
Unless their bodies are going through an experience similar to menopause. Menopausal (and pregnant) women tend to run hotter than other people on average.
When a woman takes testosterone it often switches off her ovaries and she's thrown into temporary menopause. Male bodies react differently to a high degree of testosterone and they can regulate their body temperature. Women often experience more wild hormonal fluctuations in temperature than men.
It's their female bodies being exposed to hormonal fluctuations.
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defeating toxic masculinity by selling pussy pics to fund a doll collection! revolutionary!
also notice there's a dude in bed behind her.
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wrong thread, buddy
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You can see the lines
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And that can't be a fucking sports bra or even just a v-neck tanktop? Nah, this looks like a man to me. The boobs in this and >>1066517
look like trannytits you get when you take the tittyskittles, not like a woman's breasts. This is someone who took hormones early and bought into the whole 4chan femboy meme instead of the leftist "you can be a real woman" meme.
anon i'm really confused about how you could possibly think this is a man. it seems like it's only you that thinks that too. kinda weird….hmmmmm
some girls have shit tits. this is a woman from a mile off. just look at that bone structure in the first pic. taking hormones doesn't give you that bone structure.
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Some of you have apparently never seen an asian (or hapa or whatever this is) teenage boy in a wig before. >>1067139
Are you kidding me? Troons literally go out in lingerie and thigh high socks.
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Can one of you basic bitches who has facebook please zoom in on these pictures? Just look at that jaw and chin and the manly ass eyebrows.
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Still looks the fucking same
I mean they said their family called them Cinderella and Mrs. Piggy as a kid, have photos of the childhood Hello Kitty jewelry their mother bought them, and they have photos of themselves as a child in makeup and a kimono, and even make jokes about being trans on fb.
This person most likely is just either trans or a fakeboi but otherwise seems painfully boring other than that and the monster high doll obsession.
She does that classic ftm chin jut, to draw attention from her delicate girly neck. Reminds me of Kalvin Garrah’s buddy Storm Ryan, actually. >>1067555>I am not making a facebook account to prove you guys wrong.
When you previously wrote:>Can one of you basic bitches who has facebook please zoom in on these pictures?
Why would you reference Facebook if you could not access it? You got me cracking up at pointing out “manly” eyebrows and jaw.
Give it up, “Mordecai”/Mordecai”s friend. Lolcow has a good mix of fujoshi and lesbian posters into butch women. We can tell the boyish girls from girlish boys. Show your wiener or go away.
Lmao don't let the jealous cis scum get you down babe
Only REAL boys have their dick growing our of their left thigh >>1066522
look at that line for a second and tell me that shaft is attached to her body lol
>please post more pictures so we can investigate this slander uwu
She really thinks she's slick, God bless
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i originally posted this in the mtf thread but it belongs here.
anyways how is sailor moon a trigger? whats next, barney the dinosaur?
My guess is that in Sailor Moon Eternal the Star Lights turn from men into women when they transform into Sailor Senshi. Kind of weak to be so triggered
by something so inane.
Its also kind of weird that so many trans people are surface level into Sailor Moon.
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cuts her titties off and she still doesn’t pass, her whole life is a joke
So…how does someone even end up like this? Is it really just for attention? Or did something happen to this girl and she's just trying to run from it?
I'm so baffled at this.
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This is sad, it's perfectly ok to be ugly, it's also okay to decide to be a butch or a tomboy and not cut your tits off damn
why can't these girls just shave their heads and use oversized clothes? is not that hard and you make the same point to society or whoever your are fighting without making any dumb life-changing decisions.
why is she still at it? when will it come out that she is not actually "transfem" and just as ""tme"" as the people she rants about 24/7. the self hatred in this girl is insane. how do you get to the point where you have to constantly larp as a tranzfweminine faggender boygirl hon to feel valid
we rip on cows' looks because they are cows. and accepting you're ugly it's way better than cutting your breasts off and ruining your life
besides, ugly isn't a death sentence unless you're an incel with an incel personality