/g/ - girl talk

>>152523
That depends on your expectations, I had a nose job and I'm happy with the results, but I never wanted a cute uwu egirl nose, just one that's not hooked and large. My nose still projects very far from my face and that will never change unless I go under the knife again, but at least now I can contour the tip to make it less bulbous, before I just looked like a witch 100% of the time. Still, even if I did want a cute button nose, thinking about all the nausea after the procedure and the healing process makes me never want to do it again.

>>151390
>Please ignore my terrible skin lol
>Has near perfect skin with miniscule imperfections that can hardly be seen even with arrows pointing them out.
Quit your bullshit. Way to make anons with real skin issues or actual terrible skin feel like shit. This has to be humblebragging.

>>152523
>perfect button fairy nose
I can't be the only one who thinks those obviously fake perfect tiny button noses with perfect slopes are really ugly? A normal, average sized nose that no one is going to take a second look at is 100% the best nose to have imo unless you by chance happen to be born with a tiny nose naturally. A perfect tiny fake nose stands out just as much as a disproportionally large hawknose.

Please help me gals. I’ve had great skin all my life. 25 years old now, and suddenly I’m getting zits and little bumps all over my face and sometimes neck

I did notice this started after doing some b-12 injections, thinking it’d help my skin & hair. Wtf is going on? I’ve had smooth, flawless skin forever, but now I have… adult acne? Fucking kill me

>>152566
too much vitamin b12 can give you acne

>>152566
>>152567
Yes b12 can cause that. Also, if by any chance you are taking biotin supplements, hair follicles can get plugged by the excess biotin and form little bumps.

>>152565
The arrows are pointing to where anon thinks she needs fillers, not her skin blemishes

>>152501
Omg I don't mean to butt in or take credit, but I recommended this book and it makes me so happy to see other anons reading it and feeling better about themselves and passing it on to others who need help. I may not know you personally but I'm proud of all you've achieved. We all deserve to feel self love!

how do i stop being an emotional vampire. i keep draining the life out of these conversations and it doesn't even make me feel better.

i feel stupid for moping around and feeling bad about myself. im in therapy now in hopes to better myself.

>>152550
I used to relate to this. You need to learn to meet your own needs. Work on yourself constantly in any way you can. Therapy will hopefully help you identify the reasons why you ended up this way in the first place. Most likely, you were neglected/abused during your childhood and look to other people to fill the void. It sounds like you're self-aware, so that's already a step in the right direction.

>>152491
I've furthered my education, which means that I had something to work for and I had to put up with other people regularly. It also helped to go out to bars and socialise, I even made some real friends. I think the next step for me would be to join a class, like drawing or even dancing. I've always wanted to do that but I never had the courage (especially for a dance class, if I ever work up the courage to do that I will throw a fucking party after!)

>>152500
Anon, that's the kind of brainwashing I need, thank you! I'm not really a NEET, but I used to be. I got myself out of that situation but now I feel a bit stuck again. I already try to think things like "nothing matters anyway", "they won't remember you", "you have a right to be here", "just go out there and take for yourself what you want, everyone else does it so why wouldn't you" (like in scenarios where I even feel bad about myself for taking up a service I paid for, like getting food delivered or my nails painted) but maybe not actively enough. I'm gonna find some girlboss IG accounts and inspiration, find some mantras and listen to some bad bitch music right away!
>Also allow yourself to be angry at others. I felt shitty about myself because I thought I was always in the wrong when people disrespected me. Realise you’re not always the problem and you’re certainly not on earth to be someone else’s punchbag
Nice, anon, I hope that's working out well for you! I'm gonna try my best, maybe I'll report back in a few months if I remember posting here.

>>152501
I can't currently get therapy, because I just broke up with my old therapist and will move away soon enough and it's not really worth it at this time. I'm gonna look into getting that book, anon, thank you!

Does anyone have advice on how to stop smoking weed? I smoke daily, but only after 20:00. If I don't, I get bored, don't know what to do with myself and have trouble falling asleep.

>>152510
I've found them recently and have been hype as fuck about it. I like their active ingredient choices. I ordered the toner, retinal serum, and Azeclair serum and I've been using it for 2 weeks. Short time, but I can say everything is cosmetically elegant, very mild on my skin, and doesn't trigger my redness. The Ordinary really seems like a heap of shit in comparison. Retinal seems to have already started working too, without drying out my face. The only downside is the bottles are smaller than usual, except for the stuff with droppers.

>>152504
are lanolin allergies common? I was thinking of getting that lip mask for my mother but her skin is somewhat sensitive and I wouldn't want to irritate it…

How do I get rid of Fordyce spots (more like patches) on my lips? The ones in the attached photo look very similar to mine - almost like my lips are slowly being drained of color.

Spoiler, just in case a close-up of a random dude’s mouth freaks anyone out.

>>152526
Ah, thanks anon! I'm going to order similar products so that's nice to hear. My skin's sensitive (but I guess for a lot of people it is) so I hope it works in the same way as it does for you.

>>152504
A few that I have tried are the Aritaum ginger sugar over night mask (really popular, on amazon), Mamonde calming hydro sleeping mask (not my fave consistency but nice enough, pretty sure they sell on yesstyle), (not k beauty but) Kiehl’s butter mask for lips (has mango butter, at sephora), or (not k beauty either) Summer fridays lips butter balm (has wax to act as an occlusive layer, at sephora)

ive identified as bisexual my entire life. i just recently realized that shit was a joke. i think theres some sort of pressure on lesbians to id as bisexual because so many tras shame lesbians for "not being inclusive."
negativity aside, bisexuality was my cage. i feel so free anons. saged for blogpost

>>152405
I don't see myself in the partner, I'm soft butch myself.

>>152436
then you’re a simp. go lick someone else’s boots instead of trying to defend an abuser you don’t even know.

>>152487
Is English your second language?

>>152487
I'm not defending anybody you ape. I literally said that the partner was being toxic and that the relationship should end because that's not way to treat your love.

>>152138
she looks just liker her father anon, love yourself

Season 8 Joan Ferguson from Wentworth. She always had her hair up and looked so stern throughout the series but seeing her look "softer" is messing with me big time.

>>152084
She was super cute in Captain Marvel. Just because she was never a bombshell like ScarJo doesn't mean she's ugly imo
>>152138
I hate Tulsi and her politics but damn, she's attractive.
>>151347
Reminder that Carole did nothing wrong (aside from screwing Don Lewis's kids out of his will)

>>152238
Oh anon I understand this. I have a thing for the Governor version of her and it's fucked.

>>152323
good call anon, you're totally right. didn't think of this beforehand as I didn't buy the Dr. B's soap because it was cruelty free (that was just kind of an added bonus) but now that you've brought it to my attention I think I might switch out from the garnier conditioner once I've used up my current supply.

will report back when/if I find a good substitute at the drugstore – in the meantime, I might give a castor oil/coconut oil combo a try.

also gonna drop this here for any anons looking to get rid of silicones in their haircare! https://www.thehairfuel.com/silicones-in-hair-care-all-you-need-to-know/

>>152323
oh woops, I thought I was replying in the hair thread, my bad.

>>152323
OK quick question from someone who knows 0 about cruelty-free make-up, so don't kill me please. Garnier and L'oreal sell in the EU but you can't sell any cosmetics/beauty products here with ingredients that have been tested on animals, so in what way exactly are they not crueltly-free then? Or is this about selling in China?

>>152503
It's because they sell in china, but apparently don't actually test on animals in certain products. This blog goes into more detail:

https://www.crueltyfreekitty.com/brands/garnier/

“L’Oréal has been committed to working alongside the Chinese authorities and scientists to have alternative testing methods recognized, and enable the cosmetics regulation to evolve towards a total and definite elimination of animal testing. Thus, today the product manufactured and sold in China called “non-functional” such as shampoo, body wash or make-up are already no longer tested on animals. We have opened an Episkin Center in Shanghai is 2014 enabling us to produce reconstructed skins. These skins are used to safety tests in vitro that do not involve animals and are made available for the Chinese authorities. In regard to animal testing, L’Oréal does not test any of its products or any of its ingredients on animals and has been at the forefront of alternative methods for over 30 years.”

>>152515
Super confusing tbh but I've bookmarker the website for future referencing, thanks!

>>152377
good luck anon. i’m a 25DD and i’ve accepted the fact that I will never find anything that fits other than a sports bra. lately i’ve just been going braless because fuck bras.

>>152380
I know I already shilled it to another anon earlier in the thread, but if you’re a burger you can try checking out Bradelis

>>152377
I’m in the same boat. Just recently decided to size myself properly because none of my bras have been fitting right after my weight changed. Turns out I’m 28dd and not 32c like I’ve been wearing. I want to buy something in my proper size instead of a sister size (30d) but everything is wayyyy overpriced and most of them look like nursing bras anyways so idk what to do about it. I’m probably gonna figure out how to make my own since I can sew and I’m not working anyways since this Covid shit so I have the time.

>>152453
i have weird wide set boobs that look like they hate each other, ill definitely check this out, thank you anon. wish it wasnt so expensive though
>>152454
you can cut the band on the 32c to make it smaller and re-sew it into a 28 band size. it kind of sucks to do but it helps a lot

>>152454
Go to Amazon. Look for 28DD cleo, panache, fantasie, or Freya. I have or have had bras in all of these, purchased at $20 up in 28FF-30F. Wash them in bra bags on cold and hang them on a clothes hanger to dry. They will last for years.

>>151932

I'm waiting for bella hadid and all those kpop v-line surgery idols to hit their late 20s. I think it's gonna be crazy, so many of them are gonna look like old women before their time. The buccal fat removal trend is the craziest of all to me, I'm not crazy about my chubby lower face either but I would never in a million years remove a fat pad from anywhere in my face. That shit is going to backfire so badly.

Right now is a good time for hiding your face when you go out since wearing a mask is normalised.

>>152008
I’m more excited to see the results of everyone’s “fox eye” surgery. gonna be a shit show with everyone looking like melania trump.

>>152428
Semi recovered agoraphobic, cut my hair super short and now I feel self conscious. Having hair to frame my face really helps my look but I always seem to forget that when I'm impulsively going short for the hundredth time!

Face masks will help get me through this awkward regrowing.

I hate leaving the house, I've always been shy but it's gotten worst, I don't even want to be looked at. I also think all the shit talking I do online will come back to me in real life.
I can give but not take. I want to be a better person inside and out. The longest I've went without leaving the house was a year, I'm a NEET who lived at home, so for me corona is everyday life.
especially with shitty breakups with friends and Bf's, I'm fine with being inside, but I know i need to be my own woman and live life.

>>136017

tbh i think women who go into dating solely with the goal of marriage are pathetic. it's hard to explain because it's like why else do people date? but it's a very specific type i'm talking about. like, marriage is the only thing on the brain and they just want a husband and it doesn't really matter who is standing in for that role, they just need to get married.

>>138795
This. FDS and Vindicta are just a bunch of insecure, bitter women who LARP as some succesful women. It kinda makes me sad that there are people who fuel their own BDD and want to become botched plastic surgery bimbos

So I've been having some dating woes, and my mom gave me this old book she bought when she was young called Mars and Venus on a Date. It's by a dude called John Gray, who is a famous author in the relationship category. The book itself is obviously a bit dated since it was published in 1997, but it's actually incredible how so much of the book preaches what FDS seems to. I mean, here are some snippets that stood out to me (these are specific to dating with the goal of a relationship of course, not causal sex):

>When a man comes on strong in stage one (attraction) and then pulls back in stage two (uncertainty), a woman sometimes feels pressure to give back sexually. She has received so much that she feels obligated to return the favor. She hopes that by responding in a sexual manner and fulfilling his desires, she will regain his interest. By giving more of herself than she is ready to give, however, she can actually sabotage a relationship. More is not always better.

>A woman needs to understand that by receiving and responding in a warm and friendly way to a man's romantic gestures she is already giving back to him. This basic understanding is crucial, and women today are missing it. Quite often a woman feels that she is not giving enough in return, and then she feels obligated to give more.

>If a woman's reaction to uncertainty is to pursue a man, it can actually prevent him from moving through his uncertainty to discover whether he wants to invest in a relationship or not. This is why, traditionally, woman don't call men. The wise woman waits for him to pursue her.

>Young women, particularly, feel a pressure not to let a man pay on a date so that they don't feel obligated to have sex. This is the woman's way of saying that he should not get his hopes up. The problem with this approach is that he will get the idea that she is not receptive at all and lose interest. Just because a woman enjoys a man's gifts does not in any way obligate her to give more than a smile or a thank you.

Now I haven't tried FDS (or any kind of dating strategy really), but I've heard of it and the premise, and it just really stood out to me that this book written over 20 years ago by an 'expert' in the dating field - and a man - also emphasises so much that woman should allow themselves to be pursued. That the role ofPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

I think the fundamental ideology of FDS is (or started out) pretty damn good. Is there really anything better? Most of the [female] critics of FDS are libfem handmaidens that get played over and over again. FDS personally helped me to respect myself a lot as I used to be a woman who would date down severely. A lot of women like myself partook in FemaleLifeStrategy as opposed to dating, which I found to be more helpful. I think FDS is also inspiring in that it encourages women to create their own lives so that they are less dependent on men for sources of happiness. What you do with FDS's advice is your choice. While I was active in FDS I was immersing myself in hobbies, working out, getting my education, working with the goal of bettering myself for myself. I swore off of online dating and men because FDS had shown me how much better off I was improving myself instead of sitting around and swiping on dating apps, hoping to find a diamond in a mound of shit. On the other hand, there are women who are constantly on dating apps, talking about their revolving door of men, which isn't productive in my opinion but still isn't nearly as bad as TRP. TRP, MGTOW, MRAs, and incels are responsible for terror attacks, rapes, and murders so I have to lol when r/purplepilldebate tries to compare the two.
I can confirm as a former mod that some women on FDS are insane, a few are even cow tier. That much should be obvious–people who are among the more active accounts on Reddit, regardless of ideology, are insane. The woman here >>138795 who said that the women are ugly or below average is wrong. Yes there are a few that are not good looking and need a lot of help in the fashion/aesthetics department. But I've seen many women and I'd say that it falls all over the scale of attractiveness. We certainly had more than a few women who were really pretty. The distribution of attractiveness was far higher skewed than all of the men I've seen while lurking the manosphere.
I think FDS ideology is best off if it goes mainstream and reaches normie women and men to change the dating game for women. Men have said that they will only step it up if women require them to. Occasionally we had men (who lurked) that messaged the mods thanking the sub and saying that they want to become HVMs–that bit gave me some hope. One of my biggest issues as a former mod was that the suPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

FDS post with advice to make a dummy and real account to weed out men.