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No. 918453

Holly BRown is a bad artist, YouTuber, webcomic author, and fujoshi popular with edgy children for her "no bullshit" attitude despite not accepting any criticism.

She believes she's known for two webcomics:
Purgatory, her oldest and worst comic, about two gay teens in a cult with lots of rape: https://tapas.io/series/Purgatory
Paranormal Plague, whose most-drawn character hasn't been introduced, with rape DLC: https://tapas.io/series/Paranormalplague

She also wrote Chroma Prince, a Patreon-only NSFW yaoi comic about alien sex slaves. She only did 4 pages before shutting down her Patreon.

She's actually most known for ranting about the CalArts admissions process being unfair even though she was DEFINITELY accepted: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TB90iDxOcIg

WEBSITE (currently deleted): https://www.hollycbrown.com/
(OLD) https://www.youtube.com/user/hollyistotallycool
(NEW): https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnPk2t3AcJJzPX5qshKMwSw
(ART): https://www.instagram.com/hcbrownart/
(PERSONAL): https://www.instagram.com/hollybrownprivate/
(LASER BUSINESS): https://www.instagram.com/razorlasercustoms/
(FOOT FETISH): https://www.instagram.com/feetfootstomping/
TWITTER (privated): https://twitter.com/HCBrownart
TUMBLR (currently deleted): http://bullshitshitpostmainaccount.tumblr.com/
Kickstarter: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1802876351/purgatory-print-copies
Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/hollybrown

In the last thread:

>Went silent for a while after San Japan, only posting new shitty redraws of Purgatory on her Tapas and the occasional Instagram post/story

>Returned to Twitter, but her Tweets are locked and she put in her bio that she will block anyone who tries to follow her
>Posted on IG how she is “busy” with work and packing Kickstarter rewards, even though no one has posted online about getting their items and Holly constantly lies about how much she works to get sympathy points.
>Hinted at making new merch for her store, and later revealed that she’s making shitty mugs that no one asked for
>Finished Purgatory, which had the most shitty climax and the most abrupt ending (but she still hasn’t sent out rewards)
>Returned in a big way by posting two live streams where she cried about how her life is shit and threw a giant pity party for herself. Her stupid followers gave her asspats (and even suggested she go into sex work) during said live stream, and they also harassed a commenter who asked about $70 worth of merch from her Etsy that they ordered a year ago. Holly eventually acknowledged the customer by telling them to just open a dispute and she’d refund them. She has since put these streams on private.
>Claimed that she’s working 3 jobs: The Disney Store, a coffee shop, and a Ford factory, though she is probably lying about the latter two and is only working at the Disney Store.
>Got her Etsy shops suspended, and opened a new store on Shopify instead of trying to reopen her Etsy. She now has to pay $30 a month to keep her shop open.
>Began uploading pages for the Purgatory Epilogue on her Tapas, even though it was a Kickstarter Exclusive
>Made the new Purgatory books available on Amazon, even though she has yet to send out all the Kickstarter rewards, giving her backers a huge slap in the face.
>Did a live stream on IG where she sat in her car of her work’s parking lot, complaining about having to work, mentioned how she’s purposefully doing s shit job to get herself fired, and talked about how she’s applying for a graphic design job. She ultimately didn’t get the position. She also confirmed on this live stream that she sold her laser after San Japan.
>Went on a commission livestream where she rambled about how Inktober is a waste of time and supplies, how white people don’t like black fills, and about how much “Etsy sucks”
>Made a video for the first time in forever, where she talks about making designs for pencil cases and makes a crappy design with art supplies and a rando cat.
>Made a video about how to format comics in KDP, even though the process would be much easier if she wasn’t too stubborn to use Clip Studio Paint
>Quit one of her jobs and announced she was going to make mental health tip videos on Skillshare in another attempt to get-rich-quick. She backpedaled after her fans told her it wasn’t a good idea, but she continued to ask her followers what kind of lessons they would be interested in for her Skillshare.
>Made an announcement on her Kickstarter that if she doesn’t finish packing all the rewards by the end of November, she’s just going to refund the orders she didn’t get to. Her dumbass followers then commented that she doesn’t have to refund them and to just take their money as donations.
>Uploaded Sketch Rambles Episode 2, where she talks about watching financial guru videos and how she has a Professor Venomous fetish with some hints of daddy kink. She also showed off her sweatshirt sleeves that were encrusted with snot and tears from her last streams.
>Finally showed her books for Purgatory, but the cover matches up with the ones on Amazon instead of the ones on Kickstarter. It is likely that she had Amazon print the books, then she bought the Amazon copies to send to her backers.
>Posted stories about her excitement that MCR is back together and is gonna go on tour, complaining about how she’s too poor to go, but then shows off buying the Shane Dawson x Jeffree Star palette.
>Announced that she’s doing ANOTHER (the third) redraw for Paranormal Plague and she’s relaunching the comic in January 2020.
>Finished uploading all the Purgatory pages on her Tapas, officially ending the comic. She then announced that she is now gonna focus on Paranormal Plague for the next 5 years, estimating that it’ll be about 15-20 volumes.
>Posted on her story a comment that criticized her for focusing on making new merch and redrawing Paranormal Plague instead of focusing on sending out Kickstarter rewards that have been delayed for 8 months. Holly responded super passive aggressively and complained about how she needs a life outside of just sending out awards.

Previous threads:

No. 918471

Holly also repurposed her thesis project 'Clever Kitchen' as yet another comic and started (?) working as a delivery driver for Dominos in the last thread.

No. 918479

all her jobs are fake news. you can't just get hired on the day with nothing but bad references. we forget how much she lies. we start to think - ah, the way she presents this aspect of her approach to this situation involves some dishonesty. later you find out
her whole response never happened.
the situation itself never existed.
the context for the situation never existed.

No. 918488

She was live streaming 9th grade ninja again on twitch.

No. 918545

does she really wanna get banned?

No. 918556

I wouldn't be surprised if she was intentionally trying to get banned so she can throw a pity party and open a go fund me cause boohoo no more as revenue plz send me money I got bills to pay or some shit

No. 918588

Twitch stream:


She really in here for over 3 hours.

No. 918607

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She must be addicted to self sabotaging herself. It’s in the ToS pretty clearly and she’s done this what, twice now?

No. 918615


The OP just copy pasted from the previous thread's description, so the summary is of thread 19, not 20. The only thing that's different is the thread pic and the number 21.

No. 918627


I wonder if OP is the same impatient anon who constantly bitches towards the end of each thread about if anyone made a new thread despite the thread being nowhere near getting locked.

No. 918631

yea, no thread lock down notice out yet and people just filling the last few posts with talking about how many posts are left lol

No. 918668

Notice showed up 10 days ago and there is like maybe 5 posts left before the old thread was locked

No. 918697

Hoky fuck are you retarded, the last thread litteraly just locked because there had been the 100 posts since the thread lock alert. The anon suggesting someone to make this thtead now wasnt being impatient just retarded in the sense that they couldve just made the new thread themselves

No. 918701

why are you so mad about this lmao, every other thread does it after the lock down notice. im not talking about the one that just warns about a 100 posts being left.

No. 918780

and they made a shit one

No. 918783


shit or not, at least we didn't get locked because no one else seemed willing to make a new thread

No. 918784

a thread getting locked doesn't mean the end of the world you know. someone would have made one eventually (and properly)

No. 918793

Why are you so fucking insistent on this? It’s not imperative that there needs to be a new thread ASAP especially since there’s nothing milky going on. Chill.

I’m surprised her Twitch hasn’t been banned yet for broadcasting shows. I thought people got taken down pretty fast for that.

No. 918910

Jfc who cares what a stupid thing to argue about.

No. 918991

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No. 919077

why does she keep drawing those stupid chipmunk mouths

No. 919121

And ofc no one would be able to tell who they're supposed to be if the caption didn't exist

No. 919163

She needs to learn how to make good character designs

No. 919292

Great, something new for her to ruin with shitty fanart.

No. 919316

Great something for her 11+ fans will eat up

No. 919513

Her character designs are fine, it's her fundies that are off. If she just used references and actually practiced her craft then her art could be so much better

No. 919780

Holly was at McDonald’s today I wish I had been able to take a pic as proof but it would’ve been way too obvious if I did.
My husband pointed her out to me. She looked exhausted out of her mind and her ass has gotten fatter. Not surprised

No. 919790

She was probably eating her feelings away if she’s at a McDonald’s lol

No. 919799

The best part is she totally was dressed like she went to the gym or intended to.

No. 919830

why is holly so obsessed with that fucking ninja show

No. 919831

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>have tv paint
>use photoshop anyway

she is really scared to learn a new program huh

No. 919833

Jesus christ the animation…. reminds me of the Mr.Bean cartoon

No. 919835

she is reeeeally child minded. i used to like that show way back around when it came out and it's not bad, but with holly everything is cringy and she always latches onto the most obvious character.

No. 919911


one thing i do love about her character designs is that they're … kind of grounded?? like the anime influence is there (hair squiggles and technicolor hair) but she can create background characters that look like real average people

No. 919927

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No. 919939

So let me get this straight, she finally started working on PP after talking about it for months while doing everything she could to delay her Purgatory kickstarter, yet the moment she actually had to focus on PP she got bored of it almost immediately and randomly started her Clever Kitchen comic after she didn't mention it for like a year, got bored of that as well after three pages and startet yet another animation project? (btw what ever happened to those FMA and Hamilton animations she wanted to do?)

Is she just not capable of sticking to one thing for more than a few days or what? I bet she's gonna get tired of her animation by next week and go back to comics cause "comics are easier" and the cycle repeats again and again

No. 919945

This girl needs meds.

No. 919953

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Same anon, out of curiosity I just checked out her KS again and apparently several people still have not received their books as of five days ago. Holly please just finish the rewards for the people who acually bothered to pay you money for your shitty comics before burying yourself in a bunch of new projects that will probably never be finished anyway, this is getting ridiculous

No. 919955

she can draw semi-realistic characters, nothing good-looking but objectively average in a way that doesn't go her anime aesthetic

No. 919971

The last “update” to paranormal plague was Jan 3, so it’s been two fridays since then and no updates. PP ended quicker than I imagined

No. 919981

Can’t even commit to her updates, she’s probably bored with her stuff already

No. 919991

Hey try saging your posts, morons

No. 919994

I think one of her problems with PP is that she only cares about Reese and Hershey boning, and there's so much of the story she has to get through before she can even introduce him that she gets bored and gives up. Remember that she had NO problem drawing and spitting out the porn comic of them in no time flat. I sincerely dont think we will ever see more of PP beyond 200 more redraws of the first chapter and random shitty illustrations. If we're REALLY lucky she'll redraw Seize…

No. 920018

I remember back in 2013 and 2014, the show had a weird following on tumblr and deviantart. A lot of smutty art was made of the protagonist and his best friend- which I do not need to explain why that is gross. I am not saying Holly is that type of fan, but the show does attract extremely weird people for some reason.

No. 920036

Her character design concepts would serve their purpose if they were drawn a bit better. Like the color schemes, clothing choices and (intended) body type do theoretically tell you a lot about the characters themselves through visual storytelling. If Holly just fixed the technical mistakes and hired a writer her comic could be ok.

No. 920037

Oh are the characters under age?? Yikes

No. 920039

>>920037 yeah all the characters are in ninth grade

No. 920095

The thing Holly never learned to be OK with is leaving some projects on the back burner. Instead of working on 1 or 2 projects and leaving a couple others to simmer, she'll try and do 4 at once and think she'll make progress on all of them at the same quality and capacity. She doesn't accept the fact that each thing takes time and that just because one project is a comic and the other an animation, that she can devote equal amounts of time to each, on her own. So, what's she got now:

Paranormal plague, which, like anon above said, we'll probably never see past 200 pages but I'm guessing less than that.

Clever Kitchen, her fully colored "hobby comic". Regardless of whether or not she calls it a hobby, it's still a project.

Game grumps animation, because of course she has to ride that trend that's been long played out.

I know I'm missing some, but unless she's legit a machine(she's not), or she is doing this full time for a living (she isn't), she needs to focus on one project at a time, because she seems to have a hard time splitting her energy and interest between even two. She has no real goal or motivator except maybe money. But you can't get something from nothing.

No. 920106

Ew Holly wtf. I get they're cartoons but come on why is a 20 something into imagining 14 year olds making out

No. 920124

Has she actually said anything about imagining these cartoon characters making out tho?

No. 920128

The milk is dry can you blame them?

No. 920201

New Vlog

No. 920219

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Her floor is disgusting, how does she live like this?

No. 920221

This photo smells of rodent pee n stagnant ramen

No. 920225

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She’s a 20 something women and god she’s such a unhealthy and unorganized person

No. 920226

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I can imagine how many bugs and mouse she must get lol

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No. 920245

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Wonder what happened lol

No. 920262

Half empty and unopened cans of coke, grime on the carpet, dirty dishes from god knows when.

She's got some nerve selling merch out of her junk heap, you'd hate to be the one to get a bonus gift of a stray hair or live roach in your package. She's filthy.

No. 920284

never heard of a sponsor dropping like that, they must have looked up holly later on and found all the shit she's done lmao.

No. 920322

In one of the new videos she said she wanted to move out because her “mother is a hoarder”, as if we haven’t all seen that her room is absolutely disgusting

No. 920362

Gee Holly, has your edgy "honest" humor gotten you rejected by a sponsor? I mean who could have see that coming, really.

She's so stupid lol. I love people who say fuck all on the internet because they are so 'real' but in actuality they're just children that never developed a filter for interacting with basic social skills and then whine when that affects their lives. Like no shit. She always acts so surprised when her unprofessionalism is treated for what it actually is as if it's everyone else's fault for not finding beheading videos funny.

No. 920364

When you’re bipolar, your logic and emotions become blurred. I don’t blame her, I hope she’s receiving the correct help.

No. 920366

Whoa, between jobs? What happened to the baby photography job? The domino's job? She really is addicted to self-sabotage huh? I'd say go back to school but with the cost of higher education in the US and her already massive amounts of debt I'm not even sure if that's a good idea

No. 920380

Even if she could afford going back to school what would be the point? Holly still wouldn't be able to keep down a job because of her attitude and because of her possible undiagnosed mental issues.

Also, regarding the dropped sponsor, I wonder who the sponsor was. I know there is a bot going around right now pretending to be a sponsor and then hacking channels. Holly might have actually dodged a bullet.

No. 920396

wait is it confirmed with an official diagnosis that she is bipolar? and even if she is, it's not an excuse to act like an asshole.

i really think those are made up, she has been talking about all kinds of jobs left and right, but hasn't even kept them for a day. who would wanna hire someone with like 60 jobs on their cv that they only had for 1-7 days?

No. 920398

>between jobs

you don't say?

No. 920417

Are those kickstarter orders in the corner?

No. 920419

Bitch your post isn't even saged, why the fuck are so many people not saging recently its fucking annoying. Just type it in the email feild jfc

No. 920427

She's live now

No. 920429

Says new job is manual labor job where she installed internet physically. Like climbing poles and crawling around in attics.

$1000-$1500 per week

Wanna take bets on if she lasts through the certification process?

No. 920430

Says she had a dream where shes a princess and has 10 guards that are all her husbands.

No. 920434

Did she even use a reference for those dice? Because they still look bad

No. 920437

>If I ever get a BF and he yells at me his ass is grass. You do not yell at me.

Ooookay Holly.

>Just fucking communicate, idiot.

Is that what you said to all the people still waiting for their kickstarter books?

No. 920449

Is she even fit to crawl up a pole lol

No. 920461

How does she always get these amazing job opportunities?

No. 920466

Simple, she's lying.

No. 920476

She says applying to jobs is her hobby but either there are no other applicants to anything in her area or she's straight up lying. She gets 2 out of 3 jobs she ever mentions in vlogs, it's literally impossible.
She supposedly doesn't get any hours which is why she's fucking around at home and stacking up jobs. How many is she supposed to be holding right now? Disney Store, Domino's, the baby photographer job and now this repair labor stuff?

She mentioned in her last vlog sitting around alone sketching in Starbucks in the hopes a stranger will randomly sit with her and talk to her. This is what she considers "making friends".

No. 920480

She wants friends but feels like she's too good to go out of her way to make them; that friends should be coming to her.

No. 920483

Honestly this just sounds like the mindset of a middle schooler with no social skills which…fits, lol. Honestly pretty sad. She thinks people will see her drawing and be drawn into conversation or something by her mad skillz. Imagine if she'd just made friends in art school…

No. 920485

Lol, I just tuned in and she's talking about cannibalism.

No. 920505

She needs to work on her social skills and self esteem which is probably too late for her at her age

No. 920507

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Her and her deformed foods, can’t she draw anything else other then junk on her desk/table

No. 920520

WTF is that supposed to be??? Bread? Lunchmeat? Cheese? I thought those were zany mattresses at first, and you tell me this is supposed to be some sort of food?? Fucking christ.

No. 920531

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No. 920569

Why lol? Is it relevant to Holly?

No. 920574

how many threads have posted this in lol, it also popped up in the shayna thread

No. 920575

Did I miss something?

No. 920599

shes streaming now and complaining about her dog living too long (like she wants her dog to roll over and die). wtf. also she talks about her dogs balls live on stream and compares getting a dog castrated to circumcision

and she made a random dirty comment about a 12 year old boy having enjoyed his own dick…. just typing this makes me sick.

No. 920603

maybe she can draw the mice, learn a thing or two about anatomy

No. 920604

i sense a strong focus on food

No. 920606

Holly draws woman anime titties and they look more like a dude's pecs.

No. 920608

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What the fuck

No. 920612

shes talking about putting that 'design' on a mug…

No. 920613

She erased that drawing lol

No. 920615

damn, slapping her art on things no one would buy became her biggest obsession huh

No. 920621

“Please buy my crappy art on stuff that only my 25 fans will buy” she would say

No. 920625

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No. 920626

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She really let herself go

No. 920627

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No. 920628

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No. 920640

she's been streaming for 8 hours does this woman not have anything else to do with her time

No. 920641

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Deadass thought that was Holly's mom at first Jesus

I can smell these pictures.

No. 920672

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Clear images of her OCs in the Big Mouth style. Charging $10 for this mess. 1/2

No. 920673

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God, what a mess. She couldn’t even clean it up, and of course she has to sell it. 2/2

No. 920678

Who drew the image hanging in the top left?

No. 920679

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10 hours of live stream being proactive

No. 920682

is this supposed to be her and Herschel this is hilarious

No. 920684

Different anon but that's holly getting banged by her OCs. I hope employers see this when googling her.

No. 920687

What the fuck?

No. 920691

she's been streaming for 11 hours?!

No. 920697

I'm not watching that shit, anyone care to explain what exactly prompted to her to draw herself having sex with Hershel?? That's some new level of insanity

No. 920700

This is honestly getting disturbing at this point. Her rooms a mess, she has no social life, and she's drawing herself shipped with her own characters? I know people can develop crushes on fictional characters but her own OCs??? Didn't she say at one point her characters were like her own children? And she keeps pumping out merch of the sameface OCs from her comic that she hasn't gotten 10 pages out of yet. No, nobody is going to want a mug with some random doodles of OCs on it. She truly thinks that people already know and connect with her characters like she does because in her head she has everthing planned out. If she would take some time and develop her comic I could see more people caring about the characters and merch & shit. I really hope she can get out and find some friends or something else for her to do bc this is one of the loneliest I've ever seen. Sage for bullshit

No. 920706

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Her fans must be just as cringy and lonely as she is.

No. 920707

Please say sike…………

Anyone know when she did this in the stream?

No. 920710

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I think it’s safe to say Holly has no job at this point. 11 fucking hours streaming…

No. 920715

I think the part that should worry us too is that Hershel is based on an actual person, she talked about him a few threads back.

No. 920716

Please tell me this is like a mock up in sharpie and not the actual design that she's selling for actual money.

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No. 920723

Look here: >>920706
She already listed and sold it…

No. 920737

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Actual highlight of this is that Holly draws herself like a south park character now when she don’t really look that fat in the face yet.

No. 920738

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Samefag since I’m on mobile but here’s more of her being shipped with Herschel.

No. 920743

For a cow, it's actually a breath of fresh air to see her draw herself humble and chubby. I would have expected her to draw herself in a much better way, if that makes sense? Hotter than Ash, at least. Kinda nice. Bad art, nice concept.

No. 920744

>nice concept
it's not a good concept just because it's self loathing instead of self adoring you weird ghoul

No. 920763

i said years ago and it didn't sink in here. she doesn't want to be an artist. she doesn't want to have a financially or creatively successful comic. She draws because she masturbates to the drawings. that's it.
The rest of the surrounding shit, the channel the comics the store, is incidental

No. 920778

This made me laugh, you're totally right. Whoops. Either way I was shocked that she lacks the usual cow grandiosity and didn't use the situation to give herself luscious hair and curves or something.

No. 920783

Lol she has an eating disorder it's more sad than anything

No. 920784

The dumbest thing though is that if she could be bothered to learn anatomy and draw subjects people actually care about instead of just Herschel (and occasionally Reese) she could get by just drawing porn.

No. 920786

your line of thinking is exactly what i meant by 'it doesn't sink in'. you're seeing it too soberly. making profit from porn and edging your goonie for 16 hours a day are incompatible mindsets. did you ever get horny and nothing else suddenly mattered? your self-image your ethics and all that shit are just 'f-fuck it'? imagine trying to visualise a business plan during that shit

No. 920787

Someone is now the proud owner of a $16+ ($10 + $6 in shipping based on that picture) mug with these ugly scribbles

No. 920790

I agree. She seems to be into doujinshi and ships of other franchises and wants to skip having a story with any substance and just get straight to making AU fancomics, merch, and ships with her own characters. I feel like that's also why she doesn't improve, she learned the bare minimum to shit out her crappy ideas and is too lazy to bother trying to progress beyond that.

No. 920792

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so is she manic or just horny

No. 920793

Is she still streaming?? This has to be a maniac episode. A legit one, not Shay style "uuuh I can't film cause I'm Manic"

No. 920795


When you phrase it like that, yeah I get what you’re saying and I agree with you.

No. 920798

This has to be a very bad episode if she’s maniac. Has she been taking her meds? Bipolar worsens within age if you aren’t treated properly.

No. 920816

Anon… Manic not maniac jfc. Although maybe both?

No. 920822

The bad designs reminds me of Garfield

No. 920838

"poot" ffs dont tell me she has weird fetishes like piss or something. im gonna be sick

No. 920867

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No. 920881

Did… did she really draw herself farting in her oc's face?

No. 920886

Tbf shes probably thinking of it as a stupid joke that she thinks most people would find funny and not as a weird kink thing that alot of the anons here are making it out to be

Its probably all just bad jokes, ngl I can't blame her considering how long her stream went on for, shes probably going bonkers atm

No. 920892

I get where you're coming from anon, but I wouldn't be surprised if this turned out to be a fetish in the end, not saying it 100% is. Personally I don't find anything funny about drawing yourself farting in a char's face, but that could be her sense of immature humor or whatever (especially considering her audience, so I guess they would think it's lol haha funny fart), doesn't make it less gross.

No. 920900

The weird thing for me is how Hershel is just like staring at her farting ass and smiling in a way that's supposed to be… sexy? It makes it seem sexual as opposed to silly.

Also, is that meant to be Holly farting or a giant baby? lol

No. 920902

Listening to her describing PP romances is so fucking weird.

>when herschel, when he uh, dated ash, it's early on in the story, before the story starts

>it was more of a sexual relationship rather than romantic one
>ash just likes having company around and herschel just liked to escape seeing fucked up stuff all the time, so it was yeah, the SEX, I know that, but it was inherently kinda toxic for that reason
>so the romance with reese is different, it's more about making each other laugh, and, um, haha, big horny energy, hahah

No. 920908

>so the romance with reese is different, it's more about making each other laugh
Clearly that's Holly's first priority in the Reese/ Hers romance, that's why a porn comic was the first thing that was created about that relationship

No. 920911

She goes on and on about characters dynamic, and that it has to be different, if characters are too similar that romance can be hard.

but then her description of the Reese romance shit it's just:

>it's more or less just memes, haha, they just meme a lot

No. 920919

File: 1579543550571.jpeg (1.3 MB, 1125x2015, 831C2246-3DE8-43B6-95B0-4414A2…)

Holly’s favorite doodles from the stream.
Mine too, tbh.
I always love it when a fujoshi day dreams about being with their handsome and hunky OC.

No. 920930

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>holly: haha, do people actually put themselves in their comic to date the main character? cuz that's so cringe
>also holly:
>"Yes, I am so excited to get the puss."

No. 920931

samefag but I could stomach some parts of the stream, it was a hot garbage mess.

>"I ship myself with herschel. He's mine now. I can finally have a man with purple hair who loves me, haha. I am your god, Herschel, you must love me. "

>mentions the military guy's hair is blue

>talks about herschel having purple pubes, military guy has blue pubes and reese has green pubes

>spends around 40 minutes writing live laugh eat ass in different fonts

>(talking about her dog) "I like licking Holly's sheets so they're disgustingly wet and smell bad and I like peeing on her purse so she permanently smells like piss"

>talks about her dog's balls

>constant sipping/slurping

>(when asked about drawing herself half-naked with her fat ass up if she's proud of it) "I kinda am"

No. 920932

love the amount of pearl-clutching in this thread because holly jokingly doodled some dumb shit during a stream.

No. 920935

When you do cringe shit, people post about your cringe shit, I think that's expected.

No. 920942

at 15 minutes in the stream Holly tells us a dream she had: of her being a princess and having a harem of 10 male guards… who are also her husbands and watch her at all times, even when she's peeing.

and she felt the need to share that, on a stream where she's trying to be a professional artist and sell SFW mugs.

No. 920947

Pearl clutching? This shit is fucking weird anon idk how you want people to react

No. 920956

She is drawing Hershel as if he’s her real boyfriend, definitely needs help lol

No. 920957

more like… needs a boyfriend, but who would date her?

No. 920960

If Holly smells like piss, or just smells bad in general, I have a hard time believing it's entirely because of her dog…..

No. 920962

lol bitch, where?
Desperately trying to be relatable and thirsty to a crowd of Internet teens is cringe. Holly’s in her twenties now. She should really know better by now.

No. 920963

she wishes death on that dog. she literally says during the stream she's upset that the dog lives that long.

No. 920970

She could be just naturally thirsty. After all, she is a single adult in her twenties. Doubt she's got the mental capacity to make that calculation and purposefully play up her thirst to draw in lonely teen subscribers.

No. 920975

Needs to get laid badly lol

No. 920976

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Who would buy this crap

No. 920977

at least those are colored and shaded, unlike the comic where those two characers originate from

No. 920980

god this is ugly

anon, have you never in your life time seen a black and white comic? it's not unusual to not color to save time, her work isn't shitty because of the lack of color.

No. 920993


Jfc can she draw just one character without an absolutely punchable face or shit-eating smirk?

No. 920994

The obsession with her OCs is unreal. She's still working on random pieces of merch instead of getting anything done. Usually you would make merch of your chracters once the comic was popular and your fans expressed interest. Not Holly, she has to be contray

No. 921001

It's because she sees herself as legit and deserving of the fanbase of a bigger franchise, even though her shitty stories and OCs are 2-dimensional and uninteresting at best. Once again getting ahead of herself.

No. 921016

why won't she let purgatory die?

I thought she was excited to start pp

No. 921020

at about 1:15 in the stream Holly complains about a potential husband (that she does not have) wanting her to be a homemaker and quit her job and her career (when she's jobless and has no career to speak of) and 'give up her life' (though she has no life).

No. 921040

I think this looks better than her recent stuff, but I honestly thought I'd seen the last of purgatory. lol I should have known better

No. 921042

How are those Kickstarter orders going Holly?

No. 921058

Hershel body pillow when

No. 921068

File: 1579563565812.jpg (35.98 KB, 369x278, 8888.jpg)

Are you saying this is not a priority for a body pillow right now?

No. 921080

I thought this was Steven Universe before I read upthread.

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No. 921099

You know if she did commissions based on this theme instead of merch she'd make so much more. But she has to constantly turn everything she thinks of into her ocs.

No. 921113

her self-loathing's kinda sad like she's not ugly. if she took better care of herself and let her hair grow out some more she'd be pretty in a generic white girl way

ot but i absolutely loath that "3 smile" she always draw it's just so crooked

No. 921115

I have never in my life seen someone with such an absolute lack of social filter, self control or foresight.She just can't help but be cringy and gross. It almost feels like she gets off on being gross and weird in public (in front of an stream audience)

No. 921150

Kek how did she manage to give such a lean to a popsicle

No. 921190

Extremely jealous if true. God damn

No. 921239

No one cares whether she’s ugly or not, anon. She tears down other people/things constantly and so it’s no surprise that she’s massively insecure and self-loathing. She needs to stop her habitual lying and procrastinating, and stop making herself the victim just because people are questioning or criticizing her (not in this thread but on her Kickstarter for example).

No. 921319

anon, please. it's Holly.

No. 921321

There's some anons that are really hung up on her physical appearance for some reason
>she's not ugly, I thought she was ugly but she's actually a babe, she's a girl, she should look more feminine, she should take care of herself, she'd be so much prettier if she did
Because being pretty is what matters in the Holly Brown trainwreck, apparently. Holly has numerous mental health issues way more important than her appearance. If she wants to get better, she should start by working on those instead of "growing her hair out to look prettier" Not to mention she had long hair and it looked like a fucking rat's nest (and that one anon that kept sperging about "the curly girl method" or whatever)

No. 921325

It’s like she gave up on her appearance and cares more about her lean art

No. 921357

idk the fact that she's given up on her appearance is telling of her mental illness worsening

No. 921360

What’s with Holly drawing food all the time?

Also, I’m worried about this cycle that Holly put herself into. She’s doing anything but work on her comics… I just don’t understand her thought process on making merchandise for a comic that’s barely even started.

No. 921364

Wow. A couple of threads ago, it was still funny when Holly did this shit, but now… it's just sad. She's got a lot of habits that she needs to break off of and just… take months (even years) away from the internet. She's clearly not doing well. Back then, she got some pretty interesting milk, but now… it's just so stale and bland. It's like when you put milk on a cereal, then realize that there's no actual cereal, and your milk carton says that the expiration was 3 months ago and now you're just sad.
Horrible analogy, I know.

No. 921368

I feel the same way.

No. 921403

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Holly is live on IG freaking out. Apparently her YouTube was hacked?

No. 921404

she's currently live on instagram, apparently someone has hacked her youtube account and she's locked out lmao

No. 921405

hacked? she has no audience anymore, who would care about hacking her?

No. 921409

Knew this was gonna happen. It was probably the 'sponsor' who dropped her a couple of days ago.

No. 921411

When had she NOT given up on her appearance?

No. 921412

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"hacked" meaning someone guessed/bruteforced her password and deleted her channel. dunno why anyone would care enough to do that, but…

No. 921414

Called it two days ago. There is a bot going around pretending to be a sponsor and making youtubers download a stupid program that collects password info. Holly unfortunately didn't do her research and blindly downloaded it I guess.

No. 921420

bullet not dodged lol

No. 921424

I assumed they would just ignore Holly because of how dead her channel is now but I guess I was wrong. I kinda feel bad for her tbh. If she is smart she'll make sure other stuff wasn't compromised as well…

No. 921435

Do you know anyone else who got fucked by the bot? I didn't hear aboit this at all

No. 921437

damn lol, since she barely realized that one "employer" was a scam this is most likely true then. she would never admit to being dumb enough to download that if she realizes it's the cause, so we might not ever know if she really fell for that lol.

if it's a bot it doesn't care about channel size, it just deletes what ever it has access to. maybe this will at least teach her not to be a dumbass anymore and look shit up. i hope she realizes she needs to change her passwords now cus she definitely only uses one everywhere.

No. 921438

No one I watch but SomeOrdinaryGamers did a video on it I think.

No. 921440

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No. 921468

The text and perspective on that chocolate bar makes me want to scream.

No. 921469

Can't she upload videos on this channel?

No. 921474

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There's this weird Russian text on her YouTube description, Google translates it as "And no one knew what Rabbit thought about this, because Rabbit was very well-mannered."

No. 921481

That's from Winnie the Pooh

No. 921482

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It's a quote from the soviet winnie the pooh cartoon. Pic related.

No. 921483

kinda creepy. is she about to be turned into a kids channel?

No. 921546

wait, wasn't her channel deleted? is she pulling a stunt, or the hacker?

No. 921556

The Russian makes me doubt it's a stunt by her.

No. 921559

her channel isn't deleted, she never said that, an anon did. the hacker transferred ownership of her channel to themself.

No. 921561

This is very interesting.

No. 921582

Maybe it's the perfect time to go back to her dead account. What makes a differences?

No. 921593

You can swap ownership of channels to totally new google accounts without any sort of ID verification? How terribly insecure. Not that youtube surprises me much anymore.

No. 921672

You mean the one she lost the info for apparently and locked herself out of it? She never bothered to figure it out and fight for it which is why she went and made a new one.

Tbh, this is going to make her even more irrelevant than before if she can’t get that account back and it’s her own damn fault.

No. 921678

I think some anons are confused. Her old channel, the dead one, holly said a whike back that she forgot the password and cant access it. The one that was hacked is the new channel

No. 921683

throwing my bet into the ring, she isn't gonna try and get her channel back and is gonna try to switch over to tik tok. I can totally see her attempting to be the "gremlin kinda gross tiktoker who is kinda funny" (like FeralBastard) and pulling in a whole new audience of kids that way

No. 921713

Wait so she lost her best account because she wasn't responsible for remembering her passwords. facepalm

No. 921761

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Don't know how you manage to get locked out of your biggest channel that you had for years because you "forgot" the password but yeah. Even funnier that she didn't even try to contact YouTube about it.

No. 921772

Top left. Looks light she’s doing training courses for Hugh’s Net. Let’s see how long that lasts

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No. 921818

I am not surprised their cat is sick because on how they lived, horrid conditions

No. 921823

Can't she retrieve that one tho? She still has ownership of it, what's the problem?

No. 921825

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She can afford anything for her hobby art and can’t afford a decent cat carrier oh god

No. 921833

jesus there's barely a hole in that for air, couldn't she get anything better if she is too cheap to buy a carrier? poor cat.

No. 921834

I am 100% sure he ate something from the floor and now he is sick.

No. 921835

jeez holly punch a few more holes for him. i do hope nothing's like seriously wrong with him

No. 921836

if anything, this can be Holly's chance to get away from the internet and focus on something else for a change

No. 921842

Poor kitty. I hope they have money set aside for vet bills, I doubt they have pet insurance.

Emergency commissions in 3,2,1…

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No. 921855

at about 2:50 in the 11 hour long stream, Holly reveals her fantasies of Cannibalism.

Holly dreams about literally eating human meat…. and thinks everyone does that.

No. 921857

Powerleveling/personal shit
My cat died from this! spent $4000 (it was for a new furnace lol) in savings trying to fix my little guy. He passed away the third day at the emergency-vet. Urinary disease is no joke in cats and affects 1 in 3 male cats. They often die from it.

It's not looking good for this little kitty. maybe she'll get lucky and can get him on some pills but could holly afford them? could she even move her lazy ass to even give him the pills everyday?

Holly needs to put her cats on a better diet.

No. 921861

Does she even still have money at this point? Or if she does, is she willing to spend thousands for her cat?
Idk, maybe she would since she doesn't hate her cats as much as their dog.

No. 921863


Watch her start a GoFundMe for her cat but the money goes to her personal spending on junk as her cat is dying.

No. 921866

Geez, this is actually upsetting. I hope she manages to get her cat some help, that poor thing (the cat). It sucks to think she would've had the money (or at least, some of it) had she kept to her jobs or consistently been doing commissions in a timely manner. But, even the money she did make, she'd blow immediately rather than save it.

No. 921868

One second she's laughing about cats dying and wishing death on her dog, the other she's posting multiple stories of her ill cat acting concerned. Are we supposed to believe that she actually cares about him and isn't just posting those for pity points/ hopefully some pity donations as well?
>idk this is the worst timing for something like this idk idk
When would a GOOD time for your cat to die be, Holly? She really needs to get some perspective and she should never, ever get another pet. She can't even be responsible for herself, let alone a pet.

No. 921878

Her cat is a scapegoat for her problems online and want people to feel sorry for her

No. 921882

the image says he couldn’t get in the carrier, so she used a box instead. Not saying the box was a swell idea (and a lot of cat carriers have detachable tops), but she does indicate that she does indeed own a carrier.

No. 921885

the cat's probably in a lot of pain and won't go into a carrier so they just… picked it up and put it into a box. that's one pathetic airhole

No. 921908

It’s extremely sad that this is happening to the poor cat but I have no doubt Holly was sitting at the vet thinking how inconvenient this was TO HER and it’s interfering with her drawing time. She’s bitched about both her dog and cats in the past and wished they’d “just die already”. I hate to say it, but she might actually get her wish. She should never be around animals…

No. 921910

Oh my god that poor cat looks like it's suffering so much. Holly for once just stop being selfish and show some compassion.

Also, what does she mean this is the worst timing for this? She literally has no job, no school, not working on her comic anyway? She bitches so much about things 'wasting' her time but that's exactly what she does to herself

No. 921912

Tbh if you have the account set to "remember password" you can easily end up forgetting it, but it is odd that she never tried to change the password or get the account back

No. 921932

she's never said she wished her cats would die. why do people on here just make shit up? she loves her cats. she has said she is waiting for the dog to die as it sits around and wheezes in between peeing on all her stuff.

>>921833 too the picture literally says he couldn't get in the carrier. these threads are pointless if everyone in them lies and exaggerates so just stop.

No. 921934

i do wonder if she really didn't even try the "forgot your password?" option every website has. maybe youtube went down or something while she was trying that and she didn't bother trying later or to contact them through email?

calm your tits, i thought she meant the carrier was too small and couldn't be bothered to buy a new one. this isn't a good solution at all, the cat can't even sit up and there are barely any air holes.

No. 921937

A cat can't sit up in a normal cat carrier and it's probably under 20 mins drive to the vet that it has to sit in there. when there's a medical emergency you do what has to be done to get from point a to b.

No. 921951

>someone made one single fact up on an imageboard dedicated to shitting on people
>only solution: lose your shit over it like it concerns you personally
I wonder how you've survived on the internet this long, anon

No. 921960

They have a point. Getting information wrong is one thing, but intentionally exaggerating and/or spreading information that isn't backed by evidence causes the thread to turn to discussion and speculation over something that may have not even happened, rather than discussion of actual milk and events.

No. 921962

Holly does love her cats, but she approaches everything with a careless and abrasive attitude, so I can understand why some people are skeptical

No. 921964

>why do people on here just make shit up?
Honey, you got a big storm comin' if this is the first time you're seeing people lie/ make shit up online lmaaaoooo, let alone on lolcow of all places

>spreading information that isn't backed by evidence
Noone's writing an academic paper on Holly, and you're kidding yourself if you're only expecting "actual milk and events" all the time. LC is about shittalking more than anything.

No. 921965

This is why you should write down your passwords somewhere

No. 921973

But anon, that’s mere seconds that could be better spent sketching merch of OCs no one will buy! /s
Holly apparently didn’t consider it a high enough priority which is why she keeps sabotaging herself.

Seriously this. Sometimes I wonder why a few anons here seem so personally invested in what Holly does or how she’s perceived online. And on lolcow of all places.

No. 921975

sorry if this is off topic, but i think these people are bound to crop up with smaller cows who have less milk to offer. they obsess over little details and "getting things right".

No. 921981

I'm not personally invested in how holly is perceived online, nor am I here to defend her honor. I just like reading the threads but when nothing is true and it's a game of telephone among people who can't read what's the point?

it's like if you were watching a tv show and wanted to go online to read discussions about it but all the people in the forum had the show on in the background while they played on their phone and made dinner and so they just make up what happened. and act like you're a sperg for pointing out nothing they said was true.

i'm repeating myself at this point so I'm not going to post about this anymore but I wish some anons here would go write their fanfic somewhere else.

No. 921985

>I'm not here to defend Holly or sperg
OK turbo autist

No. 922018

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these things were SO close to being cute if not a little bland but the 2nd expression on them just ruin them (especially princess like she's supposed to be anxious but the tiny pupil look doesn't work)

No. 922024

all of them look so wonky

No. 922028

omg Holly.. Please for the love of god STOP drawing the creepy cat face on your characters. It is not cute.

No. 922029

What even is that shoulder line? I'm getting Michael Jackson flashbacks.

No. 922030

Does the font on the back of the box go around her foot?

No. 922032

Lean art is her personal best

No. 922033

Anon for the love of god, type sage in the email field.

No. 922043

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As much as she complained that she didn’t have a twitter account to bitch at YouTube from (she says she didn’t have clout and it’s probably because she blocked everyone who tried to give advice on her posts) she still has one. So she went ahead and made another that isn’t protected atm. We’ll see how long that lasts because she’s incredibly insecure on that site.
I remember her constantly deleting her posts every few days. This won’t last long.

No. 922051

Nah I get what you're saying. Holly's pretty awful but I can't honestly say she hates her cats, for example. That's a reach.

No. 922053

Whats with all these anons not saging?

Type "sage" in the email field unless its actual new milk.

No. 922065


She's live on Insta rn

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she is showing her ugly ass chibi drawings and keeps on laughing very awkwardly. also said she is thinking of changing her username if she can't get her account back.

No. 922073

>was live
>23h ago

please sage

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No. 922099

What savings? lol

No. 922142

>anons trying to shit on holly for her cat falling seriously ill
come on. don't turn someone's misfortune into their stupidity or heedlessness just because sympathy doesn't fit the board mood. you don't have to post

No. 922159

They don't need to sage as long as it's milk (it's not even that old). It's not like everyone here follows Holly on all her accounts jfc.
I don't understand. When you think that she would be good at drawing something that has a(n intentional) lean, she'd be better at it since all her art has an unintentional lean on it. But nope. It still looks wonky asf. Did she even used guidelines for this.

No. 922205

im sorry about your baby boy anon, my cat died from the same thing.

No. 922225

What bothers me the most here is her constant mentions of her savings. When a pet is seriously ill having your savings be drained shouldn't be something you immediately complain about. Wouldn't you just be happy that you cat is alive and being taken care of? It comes across as selfish and uncaring, like she has to mention it on EVERY update.

No. 922237

fuck off sanctimonious ghoul anon with this pathetic reach
>W-wouldn't you just be happy that you cat is alive and being taken care of?
this is so smarmy you've lowered yourself beneath the cow at this point

No. 922249

Seconding this. Worrying about an unexpected medical bill, which can run into the thousands, is not the same as her whining because she impulsively spent money on a product that she's either bored or disappointed with. Just because she's not reacting the way YOU would doesn't make her feelings invalid.

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No. 922317


So now she’s saying her old account was hacked too and she just didn’t bother to follow through with contacting support? Jesus Holly… Being locked out due to forgetting a password is one thing but not learning the first time around from that experience to beef up security on a new account is just lazy.

No. 922334

NTA Wait up, I'm confused. Isn't the entire point of savings to be able to cover unexpected costs like this emergency? It's Holly, what was she saving up for that's more important than an actual living creature she's responsible for? Probably another harebrained business scheme like the laser cutter if you ask me, or another binge "Let's buy x art supply, rave about it for a week, then promptly resell everything and act like I never liked it in the first place"

No. 922341

If you go back in the old threads she does mention it was hacked. I was actually confused she said it was the password thing because she had previously said she'd been hacked and locked out.

No. 922342

Honestly I get that Holly is upset and this is very sad but why does her family own three animals if one vet emergency is this costly for their budget? People should only have animals they can actually afford.

No. 922346

She was probably saving money to move out, she's been talking about it for ages now

No. 922369

I mean she should be glad her cat is okay, but no one is happy about EMERGENCY expenses

No. 922441

They have more than three pets:
They have the dog, and I’m pretty sure they have at least three cats, but I think it might actually be four. There were cats in previous vlogs we never got to see because they enjoy being with Holly’s mom better.
So far I think we have constantly seen shadow, Casper, expresso (writing that x pains me) and I think she mentioned another cat in that latest video.

No. 922464

Oh yeah, I had forgotten about that loool, probably because it's never gonna happen

No. 922493

I wonder if Holly has ever considered a veterinary related profession

No. 922510

I think both accounts are real, but she just wanted a BS account for probably memeing and complaining especially since she also recently said she might change her username on YT as well.
Maybe getting ready for a "rebranding?"

No. 922514

she did say when she was live on insta that she was thinking of changing her user. why her shitty "gamer tag" though lol.

No. 922518

She better not. Her immense amusement at her sisters cat breaking it's neck and that one she said someone microwaved makes me think that's not the job for her.

No. 922520

man i love the people shes following. I know some of those small artists she kinda shat on a few years ago.

No. 922540

Oh god, I forgot about that… never mind

No. 922578

Jesus fuck no. The only animals she gives a shit about are her cats (somewhat). She couldn't even care less about the other animals in their house.

No. 923039

I honestly wouldn't be surprised, her doing a whole rebranding to a pseudonym like a gamertag is a smart move on her part for once

No. 923138

That thumbnail just made me realize she looks quite a bit like a brunette Alfred E. Neuman. It's the way she carries her expressions, I think.

No. 923713

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No. 923727

those short arms and shoulders. her characters never look like they have some gravity onto them

No. 923740

>"will only need help if bill is over 1000"
just outed her approx. savings right there, but who's gonna bet the bill is mysteriously going to be way higher than that and there's a gofundme incoming?

No. 923755

ANOTHER new job???

Which one is this one? Is this one she previously mentioned or is it yet another one she claims to have gained?

No. 923765

I think that's the one she was supposedly in training for.

No. 923791

There you go, anons who were worried about "unexpected medical bills in the thousands" Barely even ONE thousand, and she spent at least triple that amount on that fucking laser of hers that is collecting dust in a corner right now (unless she managed to sell it)

No. 923805

it's already been confirmed she sold it after san japan

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No. 923810

I’m still surprised with how hard she has avoided working on paranormal plague. She’s constantly drawing her characters and making merch for them and yet she only has 10 pages of the comic posted. This is the same comic she talked all last year about how excited she was to finally be able to focus solely on it.

No. 923811

Iirc she said she would post a big pp dump in january. we have yet to see it

No. 923837

>There you go,
fuck off?
>the worst case did not eventuate so distress was invalid
you are really a terrible person

No. 923840

No. 923847

dind she said PP would be ready by February? lmao

No. 923865

Triggered much? We're all terrible dude, this is Lolcow

No. 923869

they were talking in general, why are you taking it personally lmao

No. 923878

>There you go, anons who were worried about "unexpected medical bills in the thousands"
because they addressed it directly to me, moron
and speak for yourself.

No. 923879

Get your shit together, anon, no hate allowed on lotsoflovecow!

No. 923885

You lost your way to your hugbox, we get it already, no1curr

No. 923969

She probably just has no motivation to draw all the “uninteresting filler” (i.e. plot) necessary to get to the “good stuff” (i.e. smut) that she actually wants to draw. It’s like she wants her characters to have the popularity and marketability of those from good shows like BnHA and FMAB with all the effort of making DA OC character sheet.

No. 924067

i dont't get how these baiting idiots still come up in this thread, just report and don't give them more attention

No. 924087

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She’s not even through a whole book and making new characters that look like Scooby Doo rip offs

No. 924091

Her lines are so scratchy it hurts. Also what the fuck is top left guy's expression meant to be?

No. 924096

Damn those are some stuff ass necks, thought she had taken figure drawing classes before?!? / /

No. 924108

Hershel - Latino Lite Fred
Princess - Velma
Ash - Raunchy Dafnee
Reese - Instead of a stoner Shaggy's a whore

No. 924111

Holly "the grass is greener on the other side" Brown, promises that her future projects will be cool as hell and she's going to work super hard on them and every comic will be 112 volumes each but when it's time to work on them (deflated balloon noise)

No. 924114

Lolz and its true tho though anon I expected PP to be updating thru January before it died off. Holly was really just stalling when she said she was making a backlog of pages, wasn’t she?

No. 924118

I swear to god what she needs to do is stop drawing her characters without sketching the skeleton of their body shape and pose first, she doesn't go into detail AFTER sketching the base but she goes in with the detail from the top to bottom from scratch. Thats why everything looks so fucking wonky

No. 924124

You mean Daphne?

No. 924170

Literally who cares.

No. 924246

You know how people are tone deaf and should never sing?
Holly is the artist equivalent to tone deaf.

No matter how much she draws, does studies, or claim she figure draws—her skill level and style will always look grotesque. Kinda sad really, and an incredible talent at the same time.

No. 924255

nah anon, with enough practice and effort anyone can be good at art, holly just never practices and doesn't know how to use references. she literally never gives any effort.

No. 924269

agreed. imo the art equivalent of tone deaf is like the people who say "i can barely draw a stick figure!" as adults and you can tell they can't even look at a reference and draw something even close to similar.
holly is more of the type who was once good for her age (as a kid) and often praised so she unconsciously believes that she shouldn't have to practice and do boring things because she's so ~naturally talented~ and then ironically falls behind all her peers. i see it all the time and i think the main issues are arrogance and laziness.

No. 924284

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I thought it was against Twitch’s tos to stream shows?

No. 924286

damn she is still doing it? i'd have thought she would have been caught by now.

No. 924287

this is just a personal opinion but i prefer the scratchy lines. her inks just suck out any movement and life the sketch might have had. but why is she so goddamn allergic to introducing her characters through her actual story and not random merch or sketches?

No. 924301

Why doesn't Holly just admit she wants to draw crappy porn? I'm sure her fans would eat it up anyway

For me it's hard to tell if the scratchy lines are done intentionally or just remnants of the original sketch

No. 924435

some artist are so good they don't need any guide lines when drawing a face or body…however

Holly thinks she is just SOOO good that she can forgo this step. I'm going to guess it's because her visual library is so weak she doesn't have anything to build upon in her mind while drawing.

She doesn't leave her cave, er I mean room unless for work, right? does holly ever brag about life drawing? or is she just 'too cool' to be sitting and drawing people out in public?

No. 924444

Well she did try to do only porn once and everyone on here made fun of it and then she just stopped doing it. There were so many anatomically incorrect gems during that small period of time I’m kinda sad she stopped lol

No. 924464

Now that the porn topic came in, since Clever Kitchen is back, do any of you think that Chroma Prince may come back too? I don't really believe that Holly would stop drawing porn, but at the same time we all know how the last one was and its reception.

No. 924469

I don't think she'll ever make the full switch to porn or bring back Chroma Prince, but I wouldn't put it past her to redraw Seize or other Reese/Hersc mini comics

No. 924489

the infamous backwards dicks and Trust Trust. i don't think she's ever even drawn a vagina.

No. 924519

The designs of those black guys remind me of that Hamilton animatic that she was working on and, not surprisingly, never finished

No. 924569

I wouldn't put it past her to draw porn of Clever Kitchen.

No. 924815

The drawing of her princess looks like she’s begging for help lol

No. 924825

Well yeah anon why would she unless it’s her own or a self inserts vag, besides she’s not into women anyway lol

No. 925384

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She finished the grid thing. Not only is it wonky as always but theres such a big distinction between the original characters and the new ones she created. Its not blending well together at all

No. 925395

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Is his arm a literal sheet of paper ? His torso is turned straight ahead and somehow his am which she portrayed as very muscular and thick is supposed to go outside the frame and straight down, if she would even have any logical thinking, she would turn him a little bit sideways so he can go out and down. Now this is how flat her art is because she has no consciousness of space or anatomy.

No. 925421

Wow imagine going to two different art schools and spending so much money and time, only for your art to still look shitty.

No. 925437

Wonky grid lines because she claims she doesn’t believe in there because it’s math(laughable) and extremely wonky eyes

No. 925440

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When you have no clue about character posing lol she’s dried up

No. 925469

The paw hands though

No. 925475

Why does it look like Reese is about to start twerking?

No. 925487

They don't look anything like a couple its weird, they look more like awkward friends rather than the main focus romantic relationship. Like I know at this point in time in the comic they haven't even met but when I see drawings like this I just don't see them as a potential couple

No. 925518


No. 925519

My expectations for Holly are so low that I'm lowkey intrigued by this, it's wonky af and basic (a donut eating cop? Wow, that's so fresh) but every sketch has "character" at the very least

No. 925556

his hair is puzzling. is it supposed to be like an afro kind of texture but… half straightened because the hair before the ponytail looks silky smooth? lazy.

No. 925559

It’s like she gave up giving that guys hair texture half way through, classic holly giving up half way on her drawing

No. 925564

Yeah it's weird why is it so straight and then so textured. She really seems to have only two or three ways to draw hair which just shows she can only symbol draw. Also the way she drew his hair in the back looks like tree branches lol

No. 925592

Right, I literally thought he was standing in front of a tree lol

Tbh though, I am interested despite the crap art. I think because Holly's been talking about and drawing these characters for years and only now is it actually starting

No. 925604

I'm interested to see how the story will go too, if she ever decides to update the comic

No. 925621

holly you stupid faggot why don't you make herschel's head stamp at this point?
i am so sick of seeing the same exact drawing, each fucking line rote memorized

No. 925629

Right! She just draws the same angle over and over again!! Someone please make a splash page of Hershel with the same head angle from her previous drawings

No. 925646

Same anon I think this is better than her usual stuff, her character designs aren’t bad imo just her art style and lack of 3 dimensional it’s to her drawings. Nothing can excuse the grid lines that don’t line up though..

No. 925650

she is still using photoshop, right? she should have no problems lining up anything with it, since that has those guide lines. was she too lazy to turn those on?

No. 925671

She DID stamps for his head to “use as a base”, she even made a video of it.

No. 925688

If you look at most people with afro kinky-curly hair pulled back into a ponytail the tightened hair will be smooth (especially since most people will use product to smooth the top hairs further) So I cant really blame her for that part. The front curl not being the same texture is weird though.

The google image search for afro puffs is proof enough of that.

This doesnt stop her attempt of drawing poofy-curly hair from being trash though

No. 925717

Why is Princess in the middle? And she's also extending out onto the other squares, so it makes her seem like the main character.

I would think Ash, Hersh and Reese would be in the middle row

No. 925726

I was wondering the same thing, shouldn't Herschel and Princess swap places? Why is Herschel, who's the MC afaik, literally sidelined?

No. 925735

Yeah Hershel should be in the middle, with Ash and Reese on each side of him since they're basically the same character and both his lover or something

No. 925792

She doesn’t even think about human anatomy when drawing shit poses, for example no human will squat and have a straight posture while squatting . And don’t get me started on the legs.

No. 925818

She really needs to stop worrying about whether she should do shit in color or not. All the flip flopping is just another avoidance technique.

No. 925847

It looked like Herschel was trying to hold his shit in while Reese is a fucking look-out.
All of her characters looked scared, constipated, confused, or all three. The dog even looks like it doesn't wanna be there.

No. 925861

The way Reese is standing and the way she drew those stiff legs really hurts my Brian lol

No. 925933

The sleeping Herschel is giving me flashbacks to Seize. Sucks for her story if anyone was actually interested in it at this point because I see Reese and Herschel and immediately think about their fucking rape comic. Really takes me right out of the main comic quickly.

No. 926004

Why is the left fist bigger than the right one?

No. 926151


Damn, could you anons please start saging? Just type “sage” in the email field, it’s not hard, jfc

No. 926179

I know Princess is supposed to be like an 'uwu anxious' character but why is she crying?

also look at Reece's short fingers lol

No. 926208

Eww I didn't even notice her crying but now that I see it, it just looks like eye boogers

No. 926225

Holy shit. I just noticed. The 'Ns' near the top of Herschel's hair are actually 'Zs'. Wtf.
If she'd ever make this a print, I'll buy it. Such a perfect decoration for Halloween. I bet that if kids would come knocking at your door and see this, they'd be screaming bloody murder.

No. 926278

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Here we go again more distractions

No. 926289

lmao is this Harry Potter? she's really doing the most to avoid drawing pp huh

No. 926294


No. 926301

Damn look at those paw hands

No. 926304

perfect sign of a fake 'pro artist' is the spot-blacking Xs. That's only something you need to do if you're having someone else fill in the blacks for you or if you're doing just the lines for an entire comic chapter and then you're going back through filling them in later for a deadline and dont want to forget a spot under crunchtime

No. 926308

Does she really need to mark a X on where she’s going to be colouring in black, it’s like colour by numbers seriously

No. 926335

Haha me too anon I thought I was the only one that read the Zs as Ns. I think Holly’s a little dyslexic.. along with her mania, depression, and lack of focus lmao

No. 926338

Holly please just work on your comic that you hyped up all last year.

No. 926345

Shoulder doesn’t line up to the raised arm. Also that hand holding the wand. Come on Holls

No. 926371

Try doing Harry’s hand pose, hella hurts like hell lol

No. 926374

You need to sage your post if you’re not posting any Holly Brown milk. You’re embarrassing yourself.

No. 926381

you should give up anon, they are not going to learn lol

No. 926487

If Harry's on the right, then who's the guy on the left?
Also. She forgot Harry's scar. How can any true Potterhead forget about it lol.

No. 926490

Might be James Potter and Sirius Black? at least that's what I figured when I saw the dude with the ponytail, probably bullying Snape or something

No. 926578

When has Holly even claimed to be a "true Potterhead"? That's right, she hasn't

No. 926607

Harry Potter seems like something she would hate just because it's popular, I'm surprised to see her doing fanart of it.

No. 926647

Yeah I figured they're James and Sirius. I think Holly would like Snape.

No. 926695

Holly is actually a pretty big Harry Potter fan and has criticized the covers in the past saying she hated them so she attempted ro redo them.

No. 926698

Dang I genuinely like this painting. Yeah it's bad but it has so much heart in it compared to anything she does now. I've always liked her painting style, too bad she'd rather do her trash bag inks instead.

No. 926699

of course lmao. holly cant like anything without putting someone down

No. 926729

Wow… the difference in her art now compared to a few years ago is staggering. Even if the anatomy looks wonky, you could actually see that she put /some/ effort into it, unlike the art she does now.

No. 926737

This sucks just as bad anons lmao why is he pointing at the letter with his finger and the wand, it’s completely redundant and silly looking

No. 926739

Yeah i agree more with you anon, this was back in hollys jaw phase and the paw hands are strong with this one

No. 926765

Why do I feel like this is just another
>I can do this so much better than everyone else
rather than
>I genuinely like this thing

No. 926811

Because that’s likely exactly what this is.

Before she added the letter I assumed he was holding the finger out for the owl to perch on (though they should perch on your forearm) but with the letter I have no idea. The only thing I like about the painting is the warmth of the colors, but even then everything looks weirdly muddy to me also.

No. 926815

Because it is. In older threads there’s evidence that Holly redrew Baylees drawing of Jack Frost as a prince because Holly was convinced she could do a better job ghan Baylee and didn’t like Baylees ink work.

No. 926854

Sage for nothing to add really, but I found someone’s copy of the original printing of Purgatory in a used book store (with a print inside it). I can’t help but wonder if one of her fans couldn’t stand to look at it anymore.

No. 927020

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The finished result. She really just spent the past day working on this huh

No. 927021

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second drawing she posted with the Harry Potter one. The anatomy is so wack kek

No. 927025

Harry Potter and the Chemical Romance

No. 927028

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I’m no wizard potterfag but is this really how you hold a wand

No. 927031

everything about this image hurts me, the short arms, weird expressions, the huge satchel strap and weird knee length boots on James? Sirius' hair and terrible half open shirt? they're basically floating in space on an mspaint background? I hate Harry Potter and marauder fans in particular, but jesus christ this literally can't get any worse

No. 927037

Never mind how he’s holding it, isn’t that hand straight up missing a finger???

No. 927038

This is so ridiculously bad LMFAO!!! I don't know where to begin with this shit!

No. 927041

I’ll give the ones that jump out to me first:

>Light source where

>”Floating” characters

No. 927043


It is if you love dropping wands.

Maybe I'm overanalyzing, but it creeps me out a tiny bit that Holly prefers the Marauders era (in which the protagonists can be a bit sadistic,) and choses a bullying scene to draw as soon as she gets back into HP. Not trying to come for Marauderfags at all– this is about Holly with her rape fantasies.

No. 927054

ngl i always thought Holly would be a Snape apologist

you should have taken a photo of it

No. 927066

anything to avoid paraplague. when did she say she'd post a page dump again? oh yeah, JANUARY.

No. 927081

Im seriously so embarrassed for her I would never think about posting this. The anatomy is wack as fuck, actually about everything looks fucking wack.

Also did she finally send out the kickstarters?? Ive seen a person ask about her order or reward on her livestream and Holly just flat out ignored it.

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I doubt it, the last comment was made 4 days ago

Not to mention her last actual update was in freaking october

No. 927106

No wand in the HP universe is /that/ short. Also. Look at that "shading". Where is the light source. Why is there light inside the cloak. Whut.
I never knew Snape was an amputee. Apparently, he doesn't have feet.
Her faces are so long, and yet it looks so crowded. How.

No. 927115

she draws a lot of useless lines. she couldn't even keep the entire face facing the same way, the nose seems to be 3/4 angle, the mouth is trying to be and failing, and the eyes are looking straight cus she can't draw eyes at a 3/4 angle, but keeps doing that angle anyway. how does she have the art of a teenager who hasn't learnt fundamentals and has been drawing for this long?

No. 927177

Most marauders fans enjoy the 1970s aesthetic of it all but I see she included nothing of that in her work. So you’re probably right anon. To most of us the bullying shit was played out and we wished for different flashbacks to be put in the movies but it never happened, we pretty much got the one bully scene and now every dumbass that got bullied in middle school is a marauders stan

No. 927219

I should have bought it because 1. I’m incredibly interested in minor internet train wrecks 2. it would amuse me to no end to own a “Kickstarter exclusive” book when some people who actually backed the thing don’t even have it yet and 3. it was $2.50

I wonder if it’ll be there when I go back lol

No. 927225


Please buy it, and report back if there's anything new in there! For example, sorry if I forgot, but what was this print included with the book?

No. 927227

do it anon, owning a cow artifact sounds like a fun thing. and by buying from there the money isn't going to holly either.

No. 927234

Lets face it, she probably ships James with Snape

No. 927262

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It was the version of the book on the top, here.

No. 927265


AYRT. Was thinking the exact same thing, or else that she ships Sirius and Snape. The latter especially squicks me out, because Sirius is written as being particularly culpable in the plot to trap Snape with Remus-as-werewolf.


Exactly. Nothing wrong with Marauders era fans. For that matter, I wouldn't even particularly care if some rando shipped Snape and Sirius (not that I know for a fact that she does.) It's just that it's Holly, and I can already see the trust trust.


My bad, I thought you meant a print like a poster of sorts. It does sound like an interesting purchase though.

(Yes, I've been posting a lot this weekend.)

No. 927269

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Wow, sorry, I can’t fucking read. The print was a copy of the full cover art. You can see a version of it in this picture from the old Kickstarter, but that was for the $500 “get the original art” tier. The print itself was a little smaller than the book.

No. 927320

I don't see why anyone who doesn't know holly would buy it, especially if it's volume 2

No. 927322

Im thinking james x snape because she can write the yaoi fanfiction that they both thought they liked Lilly, fought over her, just to realize they liked each other instead. The usual garbage she’d write

No. 927340

Jfc Holly what is wrong with you

No. 927487

You mean Holly will probably turn wizard schoolboy bullying into another yaoi rape fantasy of hers?

No. 927740

Snape: "Well actually I liked being hung upside down, I have a humiliation fetish, I could have broken free anytime"

No. 927954

I imagine she ships Snape and Harry because Harry reminds him of his dead mom or something, like in purgatory

No. 928014

to be fair this

"А что подумал по этому поводу Кролик, никто так и не узнал, потому что Кролик был очень воспитанный."

is really funny. whoever posted this in the 'about me' section of Holly Brown's account is good at trolling.

No. 928055

Oh my GOD I had forgotten about that shit, you're 100% right

No. 928062

can you translate that for us anon? im not sure google translate is giving me the right results.

No. 928074

Not the anon but:

"And no one knew what Rabbit thought about this, because Rabbit was very well-mannered"

As mentioned in an earlier thread it is in reference to an old Winnie the Pooh book.

No. 928093

Actually it's a reference to an old Soviet cartoon adaptation of Winnie the Pooh.

No. 928210

Breaking news, the hacker has posted a patreon exclusive on hollys channel

No. 928212

The second one

No. 928218

wait, what do you mean the "hacker"? this is obviously uploads by holly herself to her pantreon. the second video isn't even viewable for me and the first one requires you to have the link to be able to view it.

No. 928220

She must have had them unlisted on her channel already then? I'm surprised no one leaked them already.

No. 928224

The #2 video is still public on her channel to watch and the #1 was also public for a few minutes, but that one is privated again I see. I assume it's the hacker because Holly doesn't have her channel back yet

No. 928231

the heck, it said it wasn't available because it's private at first, but now i can watch. maybe the dude who got holly's account is turning shit on and off or yt updates takes some time for me.

also i have to speculate, could this be the doing of a farmer, or holly herself pulling a publicity stunt? i doubt at this point this is the same scam the anon talked about before, those dudes just deleted people's channels, this one is fucking around. and i doubt any actual "hacker" cares about cracking up holly's account.

No. 928235

Lol maybe it's an angry Kickstarter backer or Patron who is tired of Holly's shit. It wouldn't surprise me if Holly has failed to keep up with Patreon rewards and content so people just basically paying for nothing

No. 928238

oh yea very possible. it might be the most likely option out of the 3 right now, since they haven't done anything to indicate they are a farmer and i doubt holly knows a quote from a obscure russian rendition of winnie the pooh.

No. 928265

Can’t you create a video upload queue? Maybe the hacker didn’t mean for them to be posted

No. 928330

Her patreon videos are just ramblings like her every video

Btw did she delete her infamous crying stream or was it unlisted?

No. 928369

Whoever this hacker is: You’re doing amazing sweetie

No. 928391

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No. 928402

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It’s a viscous cycle.

No. 928403

Jesus, both those frames are hideous. Why is she wasting her time on this

No. 928405

Sage for some irrelevant thoughts or whatever but I've been thinking about Holly's recent-ish video on how she's changed her OCs (especially regarding Princess) and how Princess is supposed to have an eating disorder so she's skinny instead of being heavier like her old design even though fat people can and do have EDs/disordered eating.

She wanted ParaPlague to be this commentary on mental health but it's so stereotypical with her sometimes.

It's nothing important but it has been in the back of my mind since I saw the video. I know not to expect anything less from her, considering her ideas on other more sensitive topics.

No. 928415

I think Princess is supposed to have an eating disorder and anxiety, so she made her smol uwu to better portray those characteristics

>>viscous cycle

But yes Holly, you need to learn some focus

No. 928419

I think what's holding Holly back is she really wants PP to be good but she has no idea how to draw figures from her head and that has to be a huge hindrence when drawing something kinda action oriented…I just mean if I was still drawing like a high schooler too hard headed to study anatomy and perspective while trying to draw comics I would be procrastinating too because it would feel overwhelming.

No. 928425

“Updates every Friday” lol

No. 928443

Whoever is in her account is republishing old unlisted videos

No. 928526

I'm starting to think that this is just a weird publicity stunt for her? Uploading her own videos is strange for just a random hacker, so maybe she got her account back after the Mr. Rabbit quote and is running with it?

No. 928538

Idk that seems really weird to do, especially because the one video was from over a year ago, why would she suddenly re list it? And if she was hacked but got her account back I doubt she would just run with it since she used streams as a main way to get commissions

No. 928573

yeah, I guess it would be really. out of character of her. I could see someone smarter using it as a cool live horror/mystery act, but she definitely would be posting and talking shit about YouTube taking so long to get her account back if she had access to it by now

No. 928636

All videos are private and "This channel is not available."
Damn, wanted to see the videos that were unlisted

No. 928687

Was her channel deleted???

No. 928690

Tbh I doubt Holly has big brains to even pull this stunt.

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No. 928741

another reason you know she just wants to wank to her drawings and not be successful is
>210k subscriber dormant channel
>i forgot the password, oh well

No. 928747

She says that channel got hacked too. So either way she's a fucking dumbass.

No. 928780

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Holly has so many jobs that I can't keep up

No. 928812

Her channel is back up and the russian description is gone now.. I guess she got it back?

No. 928813

That, or the hacker is just messing with the account still.
The question tho, if it really ain't Holly, then who dafuq would spend all their time messing up Holly's acc lmao.

No. 928814

My money's on an angry kickstarter backer

No. 928815

Wait, wasn't she in training for the other job where she would install internet in peoples homes?

No. 928817

twelve year olds that would pay money for purgatory can not hack channels ok

No. 928832

who knows anymore

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Hashtag team hacker

No. 928859

she looks like a grandma

No. 928860

grandma nancy's getting hardcore, flipping the bird like that

No. 928878

Petty, but it bothers me that she doesn’t know how to properly do the block text on instagram. She truly is a grandma

No. 928880


I can't unsee her now… Ok, Boomer Holly.

No. 928931

TIL holly has the same grandma glasses I do. Huh.

No. 928932

Edgy late 2000’s emo teen to mental breakdown shaved celeb to boomer is not what I expected this evolutionary path to take but I’m living for it. Thank god for holly BRown

No. 928981

That lighting is making her hair look grey so y'all aren't wrong lmaaaaaoooo

No. 928988


LOL I'm loving it, true personal growth

At least her hair's growing back, and it looks healthier now

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No. 929225

and she's listed her location as Ukraine. Funny thing to do after getting your channel back, unless Holly's actually emigrated to Ukraine?

No. 929231

no one cares about creepshow's videos, she just says what was documented here in the first place.

No. 929233

A bit OT, but is anyone else rolling their eyes at that gofundme for $3,000 that TD has going? WTF?
One, you don't need a computer that expensive for ACTUAL professional work (My roomie did high res BGs for Disney on a $800 desktop, for example.)
Two: why do you need to crowd fund it?! If you're not making the money through your art/business to buy it, why does your business warrant the expense?
Sage for OT malding.

No. 929234

that's twisted disaster.

No. 929235

oop, didn't open the link lmao

No. 929261

She was also literally just gifted an iPad by her family a couple months ago and has been doing commissions on procreate. Isn’t the whole point of getting an iPad so you can use that instead of the computer?

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No. 929298

It clearly shows she doesn’t want to make comics for fun. She just wants money from it and isn’t even getting that anymore. Of course she’s not going to be motivated. Honestly, she either needs to stop making comics or just do it as a hobby. Yet she cannot draw anything without trying to sell it, waste money, and complain when no one buys her trash.

No. 929314


Oh boy another self-challenge that Holly will fail to start.

No. 929316

Half the video dedicated to talking about some minor icon problem of hers lol

No. 929318

$3000 of crowd-funded money for a computer?
what an actual piece of shit lol

No. 929323

Holly Brown's channel got renamed to "REPLAY SUKA"


About me section now changed to

"Хочешь слушать хиты до того, пока о них все узнали? Подписывайся на канал и жми на 🔔"

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No. 929327

They seem to specialize in pirating music?

No. 929328

"Do you want to listen to hits before everyone knows about them? Subscribe to the channel and click on" is what google translate translates it to. i love all the commenters in the comment section being angry when most likely holly gave out their info so that's why this "hacker" got it lmao. i feel like at this point this might be someone unrelated stealing her channel to get a head start in subscribers or something.

No. 929338

Did holly just sell her channel info to a bot for quick cash?

No. 929340

She’s ranted about the icon in every video since it happened and in all her vlogs. It’s literally such a non-issue. She kept saying “people aren’t gonna know my account is mine!!” Wtf? Wouldn’t all the videos, subscribers, and views clearly show that it is? Any fake account could put up their own icon, so what’s the argument here?

No. 929385

This happened to a few other small YouTubers. You get an email from a fake sponsor who ask you download some software to review but it's just a keylogger that sends back info to the scammer.

No. 929386

OT cuz still about TD but yeah she also gofundme'd her wedding. She's trash.

No. 929392

can someone bite the bullet and just make a TD thread at this point? there's enough milk even if it's old and the thread goes slow, I'd like to have a compendium of all her shit. I would myself but I don't know how

No. 929398

yea, i feel like it's not the exact same guys as mentioned in one video that was posted though, since they were only known to delete channels. this particular hacker might be using the same system.

i know fuck all about this girl but i'm interested. you really just need to go to the top and use the "new thread button" after you wrote the thread post anon.

No. 929411

Geez, I kinda feel bad even if her stupidity invited this. It sucks to see your channel get hijacked by some asshole who can't be bothered to do the initial grind on their own

No. 929418

She looks like Phyllis from The Office.

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She mad mad

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No. 929496

I want to feel bad but I can't really bring myself to. She should take this as a wake up call that she should go do something with her life and stop leeching off of her mom and subjecting her teenage audience to her poorly done art

No. 929497

Someone should absolutely make a TD thread and link it here

No. 929550

Creepshow made a video ostensibly 'about' Holly's hacked account but it's pointless I won't even link it. She says it got hacked while she spends an eternity drawing winged eyeliner and rambling as she does all of her videos. Then rehashes everything that's happened over the past couple years, which is news to no one. At the end she tells people to go subscribe to Holly's vlog channel to support her even though she spent the while video trashing her.

No. 929561

The only reason I don’t care about creepshow ranting on and on is only due to her being a farmer . But still, she should know from these threads that holly probably deserves it and could benefit from logging off for 5 seconds and not shout her out at least w/e.

No. 929679

Why would you feel bad? She's an idiot. Should have taken better care of her stuff instead of scrambling to make money in any way possible.

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No. 929785

Jfc watching creepshow struggle to draw lineart nearly gave me an aneurism.

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Looks like holly knows how bad her drawing skills are kek

No. 929805

spending $4 at Michael's for shitty miniatures instead of just Google image searching?? also, the fact that's she's at Michael's concerns me, what shitty unnecessary art supply is she getting next?

No. 929831

Buying miniatures is pretty typical for cartoonists, anon. Old school dudes used them for cars, buildings… in his educational books Loomis even recommends you buy dolls to reference from. You can rotate them to whatever degree you need.

No. 929842

New vlog

No. 929854


But it isn't like any of that applies to her, since she doesn't know how to use references. She only knows how to spend money.

No. 929856


Great. Can't wait for the shitty cybersix fan art.

No. 929873

God I just hate her bitchy attitude. I just want to fucking slap her silly and maybe beat some sense into her, though I doubt it'd do anything. At least it'd be satisfying on my end, kek.

No. 929882

The fact that she can't go a single fucking video without talking about money drives me insane. We get it Holly, it's all you care about.

No. 929893


Knowing what we know of Holly she'll get turned on from it.

No. 929896

what i don’t get is that tracing a reference (for free) on the internet helps a lot with understanding the shapes in different angles and helps down the line. She’s gonna have to remember the way she’s holding that stupid 5 dollar piece of traSh and i’m sure it’s gonna look the fucking same.

i get going to stores to maybe relax if you’re panicked or anxious or just to be around people for a few seconds but you know what would be better holly getting a part time job,

No. 929940

So much for creepshow calling her out for her KS lol. Shannon is so full of shit.

No. 929943


Makes sense that she would use this method. I wonder if that's why her car exteriors are better than other objects?

No. 929954

Ew, that's a good point. Thanks for that heads up, anon.

No. 929987

I think shes been known to use assets for her cars. Hell in her last vlog she said she made an asset for Reese’s basic ass black and white striped hoodie I really don’t see her putting that much time in.

No. 929992

Tracing is absolute bullshit and doesn't help with learning - especially not if you've been drawing long enough to know how to hold a damn pencil correctly. You sound as delusional as Hollys goons here

No. 929993

>> people pre-ordering like 7 of each charm

Am I carzy or shouldn't that show her how stupid the whole merch-making is? Less than 10 charms per character is literally nothing, considering she has to bulk-order each design. She will lose a shitton of money again

No. 929998

small summary

>> Cybersix is her new jive

>> Harry Potter is her other new jive
>> she's ordering PP charms and is surprised not everyone is as thirsty for Hershel as she is
>> hasn't worked on her Comic in forever, now she's redoing it AGAIN
>> works for some company which sells a special drug
>> drug is supposed to cure premature ejaculation and Holly is like "lolz, tell that to all of my past boyfriends, rofl"
>> didn't get the other job which she applied/didi training for, cause she a lady and they require her to lift heavy shit
>> sees an opportunity to buy expensive shoes for herself
>> Her room looks as dirty as ever
>> wants to make new channel and use her gamer tag as a name, will probably match it with everything else

No. 930004

don't know exactly what an asset is but the car in seize that looked good was traced or bought art. its perspective was perfect, but it was in a room and next to a bin which both have holly's wrong understanding of perspective

No. 930021

past boyfriends…sure Jan

No. 930042

Lol this was my exact reaction when I heard her say it. She's full of shit. I'm still 100% positive she's a virgin that's never dated anyone more than a week.

No. 930043

the way she fake-laughed and how she said it made it just so obvious what a huge lie it was - not to mention I doubt anyone in her underage fanbase cares/can relate

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No. 930132

another vlog

No. 930146

Wow, I just realised when looking at her comic pages that Holly completely disregards the 180 rule… It really tops off the mess that her comics already are

No. 930174

The way she holds her pen makes me want to scream.

No. 930179

She talks about wanting to make a new youtube account so her names match and so that people stop trying to add her or message her on facebook as if she's not gonna just leave her real name there and as if people don't know who she is

No. 930180

She also completely ignores the tangent rules too.

No. 930182

Crazy how she goes through jobs so fast.

I know Amazon isn't an ideal place to work but it would have given her the hours to pay back some debt she has. personal sperg but I wish I lived close enough to one to work there.

Her ex boyfriends? I refuse to believe this ball of negativity ever had a guy willingly within her proximity.

She lives with her aunt, does the aunt never tell her to clean her room? I wouldn't be happy if my own kid was living in my house and treated their room as a fucking cave to dump his or her garbage.

No. 930185

Also she doesn't seem to understand the 100 day of making comics challenge at all? She's all like
>"30 minutes is nothing, it's not enough time for me to give a shit, so I don't care and it's not a real goal. It's no time at all."
>"I want 2 pages of paranormal plague a day, and 1 page of clever kitchen a day"
She just clearly doesn't understand that the point of the challenge is to force yourself to turn comicking into a habit, and to show that if you do 30 minutes every day, you will get way further than you thought initially. Ah well, can't wait to watch her crash and burn by trying to do 2 pages a day, jesus christ.

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It still baffles me how much she talked up this comic and then the moment she got the chance to work on it she avoided it completely. Her logic makes zero sense

No. 930276

>does the aunt never tell her to clean her room?

isn't her aunt a hoarder? i doubt she'd care about Holly's room when their whole house is a mess

No. 930283

ooh, didn't know that, I visit the thread sometimes lol

The house can't be at Chandler level but dang. Holly's room looks messy, it makes me stressed just looking at it lol

No. 930286

You might have life goals, Holly, but they sure as hell ain't important, kek.

No. 930294

Lol that's funny Holly, I thought you were supposed to hold wands like this >>927028

No. 930297

Tracing something first and then drawing it on your own can make it easier to identify the right shapes and everything

That also implies that ALL her supposed past boyfriends have had issues with premature ejaculation, wtf?

No. 930298


Those short pen strokes are killing me.

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First MCR, now HP, someone stop her from attacking the few things that I love

No. 930303

Has holly stopped trying to deny her rape fetish? In the recent video she left links in the comments and one of the links leads to a HP fic that has tags for rape and dubious consent

No. 930311

Wait these are HP characters? I thought it was Reese and two other rando OCs.
She’s going to butcher cybersix so hard if she ever makes fan art for it lol

No. 930312

Holly absolutely baffles me. She complains about how people shit on her for not daily posting videos of the 100 days of comics. I have never seen a single person complain about her not following “the rules”. Who even cares about stuff like this ?

No. 930315

What do you expect? She's delusional af.

No. 930323

To be honest, I don't think she even cares but oof her fans are minors, right? So she's linking rape and dubcon fics to teenagers?

No. 930324

I mean, this is the same person who linked her young fans decapitation videos that she would watch.

No. 930326

The weird thing is, she claimed she reads it for the plot and thinks the sex scenes are excessive, but she knows 'everyone else reads it for the sex'

But it's pretty obvious that her own comic attempts have been bare bones plots with characters that she wants to fuck.

Holly you're such a horny liar

No. 930344

Iirc it was a video about guillotines in the French revolution.

No. 930351

I remember her saying it was French guillotine executions, yes, but that it also made her curious to watch Chinese beheading videos

She also laughed while describing how her sister's cat snapped its neck because it tried to jump while on medication

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NTAYRT but yeah. (Not saging, in case the caption is relevant to the next thread.) I'm as livid as I can personally be about a fandom thing, kek. Lupin did not brush it off at all, James is dead before the books begin so who knows what he thought of it, and using Peter as an arbiter of morality would be ridiculous. Hard to predict if Holly is moving towards SnapexJames, SnapexSirius, or what, but it's headed somewhere ugly.

No. 930371

Why are we hating on gay fanfiction? Is it wrong to ship LGBT pairings or what?

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If you're not playing dumb just to derail, but have actually spectacularly misunderstood the point, please read the threads.

No. 930374

dont be an ass. Holly is annoying but that doesnt give you the right to beat her up or threaten her with violence.

dont we all need money to live? its crazy hard making a living as an artist. plus she wants to move out this month, so… money issues are certainly understandable.

not trying to defend Holly, but let's be reasonable. the last thing we want is for some morons to accuse us of 'cyberbullying'. it's ludicrous that we even need anonymity just to voice our opinions on a 'professional' art YouTuber. what happened to product reviews? if Holly's 'artwork' is a marketable product, why are we cyberbullies for writing negative reviews on them?

No. 930399

The way Holly consumes media is so fucking weird because it’s like she only watches, reads, listens to things in order to create fan fiction in her mind. Like she isn’t a MCR fan just because of the music, but all the fan fiction she’s read/created about the members. Its weird af.

No. 930400

>isn't her aunt a hoarder?
i'm pretty sure that's just one of holly's lies, unless there's some pics of it i missed.

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Or she only forces herself to draw it because she thinks she can make money off of it.

No. 930503

No one is hating gay fanfic you walnut she's got a rape fetish and she likely ships Snape with his bullies it's not hard to see where this might go. Or already has she's linking rape fic to her fans. I don't really care tbh I think she's a freak already but no one here hates gays calm down.

No. 930519

the random long boot /short boot situation is killing me.

That's so morbid. wtf

No. 930559

No but don't you think it's questionable and retarded that Holly views straight relationships as less valid/interesting than gay ones, on top of the fact that she herself can never have that?

It would be one thing if these people just got off and left it at that but they are downright unhealthily obsessed with gay men and think they know more about what it means to be a gay dude than an actual gay dude. Without ever coming into contact and having an actual conversation with an actual gay man. To me that is what defines a fujo. A straight chick who talks over gay men and has nothing to do with them.

If you are such a proponent of everyone being able to be open and comfortable sexually isn't that a big problem? A group of people that have nothing to do with the real group screeching over them? People who view straight relationships as "boring" who are not even LGBT?

Again you could save yourself the pain of having to answer all these questions, if you had the balls to admit it's just about getting off and has nothing to do with real LGBT issues.

Acting like it does is just gonna make you look like an ass especially if you have never even stepped foot in the 25 mile radius of a gay man like most fujos.

And anyway if you think about it gay men probably don't feel the need to overcomplicate shit and waste their own time by writing fanfic because at the end of the day it comes natural to them to be attracted to that, so they leave it behind at age 14 like the rest of us. If fujos were genuinely attracted to watching and listening to gay men fuck they would have the balls to watch 3DPD gay porn instead of looking at some shitty drawings literally meant for a 12 year old girl discovering her sexuality for the first time (the literal reason yaoi is never fucking most of the way through, it would scare off the target audience who's never seen a dick irl before).

I genuinely refuse to believe it's healthy or normal for adults to get off ONLY on cartoons or fanfic. It shows a severe detachment from real sex. Like it is the ultimate marker of a virgin who doesn't know what's so pleasurable about the 3d world.

Like don't even defend that, you know why you make yaoi/fanfic and it has nothing to with real LGBT problems, it's because you can't get laid and are stuck at the sexual and romantic development level of a middle schooler. It's time to grow up and get laid and move past the fanfic anon. You are at stage 10 fanfic cancer if you find yourself needing to justify what you get off on by acting like your porn is a social justice movement. You are clearly too old to be writing fanfic.

Don't these fanfic people ever find it creepy and questionable that they are participating in the side of a hobby that is primarily made by kids discovering their sexuality for the first time? Personally I think that's the REAL question here, why haven't they moved on from fanfic, it's such a waste of creative energy 9 times out of 10, and what do they get out of being in a community full of naive, sexually frustrated children? Seems predatory to me, personally. On multiple levels.

Adult fanficers/fujos should be shot down like the dreck they are lmao do not be deceived when they act like the sludge they produce is in any way meaningful or a contribution to the LGBT movement.(derailing)

No. 930564

damn you took the bait anon lmao.

but you bring up an interesting topic that i hope is not too ot to comment on. i don't think choosing fictional works over irl porn is a sign of someone being detached from real life. lot of porn is very repetitive, boring and not in anyway connected to real life, while erotic fiction lot of the time has better character dynamics and even story (of course not talking fanfic level writing here lol).
but this is sure as hell not the reason holly jacks it to yaoi, her writing is horrible and she doesn't give a damn about the characters having any chemistry at all before they get to the fucking.

No. 930643

Some of your points are valid fujos are gross and annoying and definitely take up way too much fandom space in same sex ships sure but you have to understand that there are a lot of gay and bi people in fandom as well lol. Fandom is one of the only places we exist fictionally and there's nothing wrong with fanfiction and fan art conceptually. Not having the ability to form relationships irl and choosing to vent your sexual frustration with anime men raping each other is worrisome for sure though lol. Also she lies about her sexuality for brownie points and to justify her fetish. I prefer same sex fictional stories because I've been in a same sex relationship for 7 years. I don't hate straight relationships or view them as inferior at all though that doesn't make sense. Holly just deadass seems to hate herself so much she hates all other women as well.

No. 930698

No one is mad that Holly wants/needs money to live. Everyone wants/needs money. The issue people have is that she sacrifices damn near anything in the pursuit of it. I’m not saying she has to enjoy drawing EVERY piece. I’m sure porn artists don’t generally enjoy drawing explicit furry or inflation commissions (assuming they take them), but they also don’t put in 0 effort and produce a shit product that’s not up to standard. The main difference is they treat their customers/fans with respect. Holly doesn’t give a shit about a single one of her fans and cares even less about her commissioners. There were reviews on her online shop saying she didn’t communicate with customers for months and took ages to ship things. Email correspondence requires no effort. Updating the Kickstarter requires no effort. But she can’t even be bothered to that when she can blatantly waste all this time doodling and posting numerous times daily on Instagram?

No. 930703

Nah, there are plenty of people who indulge in/get off to anime/fanfic who are perfectly well adjusted and in healthy romantic/sexual relationships. My best friend loves yaoi and has been happily married for 3 years. That means nothing and fetishes generally mean nothing. The important thing is the distinction between fiction and reality. When you project your beliefs about what you see in fiction into real life you’re crossing a hard line that no healthy adult should (like harassing gay persons in public by asking invasive questions or demanding they kiss/hold hands or hearing about someone recounting a story of sexual assault and finding it hot or defending the perpetrator). Otherwise no one cares (or should care) what anyone else faps to.

The one point I will agree on are people who try to hide their fetish behind activism or being an LGBTQ+ ally. Just seems weird, harmful to the cause and ultimately unnecessary.

No. 930731

Just look up Holly's hack account. It seems they remove everything that are theirs. It seems smart since they can just make money off of Holly's vids than their own.

I would say that Holly probably send her info out to strangers that pretend to be into her. Because she seems to only trust the wrong people that only praise her like a God. Not surprise that she doesn't any actual friends since she talk about them behind their backs.

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I can’t with Herschel’s arm…

No. 930745

holy shit lmao what happened to their faces?? Princess lookin like she slammed face first into a stop sign, Hershel lookin like muppet with that long ass mouth, and Ash's jaw is parallel with the ground. I thought Holly was improving but this is just horrible in a totally new way

No. 930747

>baby foot for an arm

No. 930751

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Jeez it's like a creepy deformed limb

Also, wtf is Princess' face? No one makes that expression in normal conversation.

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Why anon, it is clear that Herschel has merely fallen victim to a faulty Brackium Emendo! /s

No. 930820

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your english is broken as fuck so i went and looked at her account. they removed the music uploads, but left the banner and description like how they changed it, also for some reason removed her pfp. would have been more hilarious if they really just used it as a music reposting account lol.

No. 930835

New vlog

No. 930836

ummmm isnt Holly bisexual? literally the b in LGBT…

No. 930841

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are you the same anon who posted that "we are hating on the gays now" shit? please stop your weak ass unsaged attempts.

No. 930856

Yeah holly is bisexual, she claims to have dated women. But even if she hadn’t ever dated a woman, she’s still attracted to them, making her a bisexual.

Her sexuality has nothing at all to do with being a lonely homebody that gets off to bad quality porn.

Some anons here are far too interested in Holly’s masturbation habits.

No. 930865

>That feel when you draw random lines on arms because you don't know anatomy
It's frustrating that Holly is aware of her own shortcomings yet won't do anything to correct them

Also, does anyone else feel like Holly sounds drunk in her recent vids? Maybe she's just tired, but her speech is so slurred and delayed

No. 930868


Level with us when you come back from your inevitable infighting ban: do you think we're so stupid that we'll be stumped over the question "but how can a gay/bi/trans person possibly have problematic views towards a group that isn't their own?" Some gay men invalidate bisexual men, some bisexual women fetishize gay men, some lesbians hate trans people. Just grace us with the point you're actually interested in making, because no one's buying it.

God is it cathartic to call out fake allies of fandom.

No. 930880

Lol imagine believing anything Holly says, or ignoring the countless times she said she can’t “date women” because women are so bitchy. Totally bisexual.

No. 930886

Guys, stop fighting with each other. Everyone will have differing opinions on sexuality, because people define their own sexuality in different ways, and some people don't like labels. Chill. Stop milking each other.
There's more important things at sake here; like that in Hollys' last vlog she said that it isn't 'Practical' or 'useful' and that it's a 'waste of brain power' for artists to learn proper anatomy.
You guys talked about those meaningless arm lines for so many threads; why is no one laughing at this reveal? Come on guys.
She's saying anatomy is 'senseless repetition" AS she's drawing a broken thumb. I am laughing my ass off.

No. 930900

Damn her sniffling is insufferable in this video holy shit

No. 930923

Yeah, this is a really good point. Plus, Holly is still a woman fetishizing gay men- bisexual or not. Not to say you have to be a gay man to write meaningful stories about gay men that happen to involve sexual scenarios, but Holly's writing is empty and she clearly just beelines to the sex scenes. Plus, its concerning that most of the gay media she consumes involves rape and/or toxic relationships. Say what you want about fiction, but its more than possible to internalize an unfair bias about gay men from that.

Also, side note, Holly makes drawing look so hard.

No. 930976

Why are her lines so scratchy? She uses photoshop and illustrator so shouldn't the lines be a lot more smoother with a vectoring program?

No. 930978

She doesn't like drawing men with rounded pecs but every time she draws women they have sausage boobs. She wants to draw pointy characters so she doesn't like drawing women because they're curvy.

She's so irritating when it comes to making excuses for herself not to do something. At least she admits that ParaPlague is just her drawing what she thinks is attractive to herself.

No. 930989

Holly said 'i am straight by all means' in a video and then when people started calling her a fujo she started lying and changed her story to 'im bisexual but won't date a girl unless she's a 10'

Kindly fuck off lol.

No. 931002

Holly is straight she said so herself. Her wanting a pass to fetishize gay men by saying she's /actually/ bi and /totally/ 'dated girls once' is a load of bullshit. She lies all the time.

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shes apparently gotten her stuff back

No. 931196

Still, I don’t buy it. Maybe she thought she was straight. But way she draws her female characters is a red flag for me. The way she draws everything, it’s so focused on the body, the poses and expressions. and then she just slaps clothing and a storyline on top.

I think holly is such a homebody she’s probably ok with physical contact from any sex at this point, probably didn’t want to admit that earlier to herself because bisexuals still aren’t that accepted right now.

No. 931226

Goodness gracious can we just stop focusing on her sexuality? She got a shit ton of internalized misogyny (hates all women because they're "so bitchy and catty" even though she has the exact same personality) and an ugly fetish for gay men and rape.

No. 931239

Cool, so is she gonna put anything on it? Was it her dead main or the new one? I wouldn’t put past her to make a video milking the hacking situation.

No. 931345

maybe we could say her lack of skill is what makes all the women she draws ugly, but first of all "being focused on the expressions and pose" isn't a necessarily sexual thing and i don't even see where she does that, all her characters have broken poses and she use the same 5 expressions. second of all she probably tries to draw attractive looking woman because it's basically standard and to make them more appealing to the readers.

No. 931346

I second this. Sexuality is a boring topic when Hollys' concerned. I didn't expect so many people to care; and everyone is missing out on better things.

No. 931348

I think in general, she has a hard time with anatomy. Her males just look better, because they're cereal boxes with legs, and males' are usually more boxy than females from the get go.

No. 931350

that, and also because she is completely straight and probably never had any rl sexual experiences she hyper focuses on the male body.

No. 931374

new vid

No. 931396

All her male bodies are feminine as hell though, how do we explain that? Honestly whenever a sexually inexperienced woman claims to be bi it’s like people enjoy being contrarian. Always seemed like projection to me.

No. 931399

where the hell are you getting that they are all feminine lmao. the only ones i can think of is that dude from chroma prince and simon, but they are like that because of the yaoi trope of the bottom dude being more feminine. also this isn't about ~sexually inexperienced women can't possibly be bi~ you tard, holly is just straight up lying so she can get away with fetishising gay men. it was repeated like 6 billion times already, but she has said that she couldn't possibly date women and has called them catty bitches.

No. 931458

dafuq, get out with your weird theories. As if you need to fuck dudes for learning basic anatomy, go freaking life drawing or whatever. Honestly one of the weirdest things I read on this board

easy - taste and too much anime. There's tons of artists who intentionally give males a more androgynous shape (very popular in japanese media), in Hollys case it's only an illusion, as she actually gives every single character the same base shape and she never actually studies the subject.

No. 931460

And can we please let the topics about her looks/sexuality/weight rest once and for all? It all has been said at this point, no need to go over it again and again because the milk is stale atm. It's just so incredibly petty, if it's her abysmal drawing skills and personality we are here for, kay?

No. 931464

are you fucking retarded? i didn't say anything like that, i'm saying that she is like an idiotic middle schooler, who still giggles when she hears the word penis. her views on sexuality are obviously fucked with her rape fetish, so the only stand point from which she draws men is sexual, she couldn't give a fuck about anatomy cus that could involve elements that aren't sexually appealing to her.

No. 931465

^This, 100%.

I miss the art talk. Only two people even talked about her vlog explaining why her anatomy is so shit.

No. 931474

It's been several months since I've properly looked at the threads and anons are sperging the fuck out. I know the milk has run dry but taking the bait from newfags that probably came from creepshow's video on Holly is a little much, guys.

Hilarious that she got hacked by some Russian solely to repost songs. Holly never fails to entertain me. Glad she got her channel back

No. 931475


TBH, a lot of people have a rape fetish, or a loss of control fetish in some regard. It doesn't mean they actually want to be assaulted or to commit those acts; or that they don't feel sympathy for victims of the act. Don't kink shame. Kinks are fine and dandy as long as they're in theory and not practice.

That said. Holly and TDs infamous stream where they victim shamed rape victims is another matter entirely, and there's no explaining that away.

Her laziness to learn basic human anatomy shouldn't be put on how sexy it is to her or not. It's just laziness and a stubborn refusal to fucking learn how to draw.

No. 931485

Her talking about the arm anatomy is infuriating. She acknowledges that her arm anatomy is bad but she doesn't want to take the time to learn because she's already taken anatomy classes ?

You dont HAVE to know all the ligaments and bones etc. But it's good to at least know the basics so you can see how the arm is built. Her strategy of "senseless repetition" OBVIOUSLY doesn't help shit because the arms still look awful. Try again.

No. 931620

The sad part is that since Holly did go to art school she probably did have a class that taught her about anatomy. Of course instead of actually paying attention in that class she likely ignored her teacher because she is totally a professional guys! It's sad to think that Holly owes so much money for classes she never actually used and a degree she never got.

No. 931667

She has even said recently that she bought a pass to attend weekly figure drawing sessions - I wonder how long that lasted.

Plus when she's shown her figure drawings in the past, you can see how she just stylizes them without trying to observe and study the human body.

Yeah a rape fantasy doesn't mean she's a bad person or anything - but in terms of art it seems like she only draws to insert her edgy rape scenarios - Purgatory was centered around rape, Para plague has barely begun and she already wrote a rape mini-comic on it, and her recent Harry Potter drawings have bullying rape undertones.

I mean damn Horny Holly, go masturbate and then work on some actual drawings for once

No. 931714

Wat this literaly makes no sense, because she is sexually charged that means she doesnt want to learn actual anatomy? If that was the case then she would probably study more of the body type shes sexually attracted to.
The reason she sucks at anatomy and doesnt want to learn is because its hard to learn without proper focus and doing extensive research and knowledge of the human figure. Holly is lazy as fuck so she obviously doesnt want to put in the time since to improve one should be spending at least 3 hours a week soley dedicated to any said subject they want to improve at, more time the better.
Holly just wants to be able to say "yeah i drew that, did you know i dont even do figure studies? Yeah im so great at art aren't I"

No. 931724


This anon gets it. It's just laziness and ego.

No. 931725

NTA but I think what they're trying to say is, she's drawing a lot of muscular (sorry, "beefy") men (well, mostly Herschel) because that's what she gets off on; however, she's lazy as FUUUUCK and can't be bothered to research actual muscly men, plus what you said
>"yeah i drew that, did you know i dont even do figure studies? Yeah im so great at art aren't I"
so she just draws them straight from her head and they end up looking like shit.

No. 931726

Not the same anon as above, but I feel like this is such a weird thing to point out - most artists draw what they like to see/get off on, I would hardly call it a fault in itself - it's the fact that she's sooo bad at it that makes it cringe-worthy
Completely agree with the second statement

No. 931727

It's Holly's holier-than-thou approach that makes her so annoying. She keeps pointing out other people's mistakes and ignores her own glaring ones, acting like some kind of authority on every subject. I still can't forget the "You're drawing mermaids for Mermay WRONG, let ME show you the RIGHT way" video. STFU Holly, you drew Seize. Trust trust, motherfucker.

No. 931735

obviously her laziness plays a big ass role and i'm not ruling that out from the equation. but this laziness combined with her wanting to get off to her art is why i think it's so bad. drawing things well takes time and by the time she learns to do it better/completes a piece she won't be able to get off too it cus she's been starring at the same thing for a while. so she rushes ahead just to satisfy herself instead of learning to be better.
i'll admit though, i think i overgeneralized the rape fetish stuff, but holly just seems generally fucked to me, not just socially but in a sexual aspect. that's why i said "i'm saying that she is like an idiotic middle schooler, who still giggles when she hears the word penis". she's the type of person who'd find a figure drawing class oooh so sexy because she isn't mature in any regard, she has the tastes and drawing skills of a middle schooler who's just going through their sexual awakening.

No. 931777

She does come across as very inexperienced and desperate to connect, even if it's only with her own art and characters. I think that might come from her general antisocial and hermit nature. Obviously, working from home makes you develop some hermit tendencies; ones' you have to work extra hard to break, by making time to socialize and get outside around real people.
Problem is, is that Holly is a proud workaholic. She points it out almost every video, like it's some sort of badge.
Her behavior strikes me as someone who's been hurt, and is keen to wear their loneliness like a reward. "I have no one to hang out with, so I'll spend all my time alone being PRODUCTIVE and making something of myself."
This kind of attitude and defensive behavior just turns her into more of a shut-in. We know she reads here time to time. I'd imagine knowing there's a bunch of anons' watching and analyzing your every move makes socializing even harder, especially with randos on the internet. Likely why she doesn't branch out in her friendship circle online, and sticks with TD.
It's hard not to feel bad for her when it comes to her social habits and fears. Poor girl just needs some friends and to get out more.
…And to fucking study some anatomy. GD. Going to a life drawing class would be a perfect remedy for both issues.

No. 931793

or going to the beach. lots of guys and girls to draw there… figure drawing class for cheap people.

No. 931796

anywhere really would be good for her, just sit down at a park and draw passer bys, customers at a cafe, anything.

is it really accurate to call her workalcoholic when she never truly gets anything done? she goofs off on like 6 project at once, making merch for her characters no one else cares about and the likes. not saying she needs to be a workalcoholic, but if she had any focus and wasn't so lazy she could get so much done in all her free time and get better at art so much faster than people who have responsibilities to attend to.

No. 931810

yeah, this irks me too - I guess she's been claiming to be a workaholic for so long, people start to actually believe it. But yeah, based on everything she has to show she probably spends the majority of her days procrastinating without realizing it, had the same problem once. Probably just sitting in her room feels like work to her

No. 931825

Never forget when she victim-shamed Simon, her her own personal goddamn character that she WROTE to get raped, for "allowing" himself to be alone with a dangerous predator.

No. 931827

Lol, I've drawn at the beach! At bars, cafes, and parks too. There's free life drawing videos online as well to use for study.

Ahah, that's the difference between 'working smarter' and 'working harder'.
She takes on a dozen projects at once to keep busy, and in a way, self sabotages herself from concentrating long enough on one thing to make any real progress. She's very "ALL or NOTHING."
She feels like she's working her butt off, but really, it's the weight of stress catching up. She can't focus on anything long enough to make headway (recent exp: her 100 days of comics; she hasn't posted a video in two days, after saying she was going to update every day, vlog style.)
It's why she switches focus so often. She gets burnt out when she gets stressed, and abandons her current work style to try something new (The constant new merch, and switching between traditional and digital supplies for art)
I imagine nothing ever feels like it's working to her benefit by investing her time in it; so she ditches it and moves on to something else.

'Workaholic' I guess is an umbrella word to say she's always focused on work, even if she's not getting anything done.

No. 931847


She's been spinning her wheels and getting nowhere for years. She can't get her mind around concepts like "working smarter" and "finished, not perfect". she thinks she can purchase and buy her way into having fans and readers by dangling her next product or money making scheme in front of people. She's been earning less and less money this way . The only thing I can give to her is the fact that she appears to be working as an actual employee. She doesn't have to lie about having a million jobs, not sure what she's trying to prove there, but at the very least she isn't just sitting on her ass all day like she used to.

No. 931899

The most frustrating part is, she still has fans who continue to enable her even after all this shit. People were falling over each other to take part in the BnHA zine for "exposure". Her Kickstarter got 3x the amount she was asking for. How the fuck?

No. 931963

I mean people wanting to be in her zone probably had less to do with them being real fans of her and more to do with the fact that she was a pretty popular art YouTuber at the time. Still have no idea how she had 2 kickstarters funded though.

No. 931981

She said 'never go anywhere alone with a predator! That's why Simon got raped.' But wasn't he just in a classroom with his teacher? How was he supposed to know Hitler was going to rape him? And they were already in class - Simon was asked to stay after. God Holly

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On a different note, seems like more and more people come forwards saying they haven't received a package, let alone an explanation. I'm starting to get confused myself, hasn't she shown the packaged books like 1-2 months ago??

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Fellow anons, what will you guys do to celebrate the upcoming one year anniversary of Holly not fulfilling her Kickstarter?

Honestly, it’s people like Holly who make it harder for other creators to use sites like Kickstarter because people will see it as a scam and never receive their rewards. Holly basically took $10k and told her fans to fuck off because she feels like she's entitled to that money.

I bet it’s too late for most people to get a chargeback by now.

No. 932001

I never used Kickstarter personally, but isn't there a protection against such things by Kcikstarter itself? I mean, otherwise people would get scammed left and right.
(Though if it were, I kinda doubt any of Hollys fans would have the courage to contact KS, since they would be scared their queen might get angry at them personally)

No. 932003

Kickstarter isn't very good for this. In my experience some people get away with it by never admitting that they've stopped working on delivering the rewards, but constantly finding reasons to delay it; mental health reasons, suppliers/publishers they're working with making mistakes, other circumstances they're victims to and can't control.
Until the kickstarter gets fulfilled they can't start another one, which means they can't make too much of a career of this; but even if some people request and obtain a refund, they can still make bank from dedicated fans/people who kinda forgot they backed the kickstarter because it's been delayed for so long. (I don't think this is how Holly approaches her kickstarters, I think she's convinced when starting it she'll fulfill the rewards, but she gets lazy/distracted and benefits from being able to delay things without too much backlash).

No. 932009

Gofundme has a better track record for refunds KS is notorious for ignoring people that scam.

No. 932030

Holly is not some completely sexually fucked up monster newfag, she's immature and inexperienced. Stop projecting.

This is Holly's real fucked upness, the ability to feel no remorse after taking 10K from children just to sit in her room for a year.

No. 932031

i don't think you actually read any of what i said, and calling me newfag just because i said something you don't like makes you seem immature af.

No. 932087


Fucking hell; has it been a year already?

That's scummy AF. She should at least keep people updated. Then again, if she spent all the money, and has no money to print her own copies or ship them out, that could be why it's taking forever.

Or maybe her lazer breaking is the reason, since some of the rewards were wood charms?

Either way, refund or replace rewards (with donors permissions); sweet hell.

No. 932139

Pretty sure she's out of excuses at this point.
If memory serves me right, she used the money to start her laser "business", bought tons of now unused materials and also a car.
Ther fact she hasn't given an update since October says everything
Only makes me wonder how much shit she can do until even the dumbest of her fans understands they can't expect anything from her

No. 932166

>less to do with them being real fans of her and more to do with the fact that she was a pretty popular art YouTuber at the time
Hence why I wrote "for exposure", and IIRC she didn't even label the art with the artists' names (so they didn't even get that lmaaaoo) Still, why would you want your name to be in any way associated with the trainwreck that's Holly unless you legit expect her to do a good job "exposing" you to people, and why would you expect that from her if you have more than 2 braincells, she can't even promo herself properly apart from harebrained quick-money making schemes like the laser cutter

No. 932171

>harebrained quick-money making schemes like the laser cutter

And her logic on the laser being a money maker in the first place was faulty logic. How could making merch at home EVER be cheaper than just ordering it from china, where everyone else gets their merch made? It never really made sense.
Her bank card moves faster than her sense can keep up.

No. 932232

just curious but how bad is her personal financial situation?

Also last I remember she was 50k in debt?

I know she's talked about living on her own but seems to not actually try and do it.She could afford a studio apartment if she got a full-time job I'm sure, save her comics for her time off…but yeah I know she wouldn't have time to meander about her room, sipping on diet cokes and laughing at the animals in the house that are dying, her favourite past-times.

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What's the point of a redraw if everything looks just as shitty as before?

No. 932284

We’ve been asking ourselves this each time Purgatory was redrawn.

No. 932290

Those two middle panels.. just make it a single panel or just angle it differently so there isn't a damn tangent between the panels.

No. 932293

How does one devolve that badly, the redraws look worse than the original

No. 932303

Holly redraw masterpost when

No. 932304

I think alot of anons are confused with why her sexual tendencies are being brought up because they didnt watch her latest video on her vlogs channel. It seems really out of the blue, but if you watch her video the topic makes alot of sense since she litteraly spends the majority of the video talking about how she hates to draw ugly people

Like literally in her words she says the reason she doesnt draw fat people, ugly people, or minorities is because she doesn't find them attractive

No. 932329

That transition was so jarring. she really has no idea what she's doing

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'ol donkey kong lookin ass princess

No. 932361

didn't she sell the lazer? i sure hope she got those wood charms made before she got rid of it

No. 932415

Fucking finally, a Paraplague update so the story can actually start

I hate how Holly always has to make Princess' braid look like it's flying off in some random direction. I'm pretty sure braids don't float around with every little movement.

Also, what's going on here? What's that 'tap tap' in the middle panel?

No. 932421

hurts my head this incoherent shit
why does herschel say "look Journalist, we don't have to tell you nada" and then immediately proudly start telling her a whole encilada?

No. 932451

in which Holly body shames herself

She likes biking so much she hardly ever does it. Because feelings.

No. 932452

So instead of action and monster fighting, we get 30 PAGES OF EXPOSITION?? Adsfdjk holly stop

No. 932455

She spends two minutes talking about business cards like a character from American Psycho.

No. 932457

Stand, sit, stand again, sit again

No. 932460

Hershel fights paranormal monsters….. and he broke his phone by dropping it in the kitchen.

No. 932463

It's sad yet hilarious how little Holly knows about drawing a comic and how little awareness she has about these glaring beginner mistakes honestly

No. 932464

Just working on those glutes while talking like an alien.

No. 932466

Lmao what. How is she this bad at writing

No. 932516

Princess' expressions are hilariously bad. I don't think they're intentionally wacky, Holly just doesn't care about Princess enough.

No. 932520


somehow holly's art always looks like the moment when you pause a movie in a weird frame kek

No. 932541

Lol anon, these are still redraws. we have yet to see actual new content for the story

No. 932546

I'll never understand how Holly draws (or copies and pastes) two panels, side-by-side, with identical camera angles and/or positioning of characters without her realizing it looks boring and lazy?
I have no clue how a page like that can take "forever" or anything longer than an hour. Each panel is so empty.

No. 932563

Holly trying to break conventions by using “tell, don’t show” instead of “show, don’t tell” I guess, lol. But in all seriousness it makes her comics so incredibly boring. It’s not hard to weave exposition into story instead of making painfully boring info dumps. She reads manga, she should have so many examples of this.

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i Know this Video is Kinda Old but, What the Hell are those Faces? It Shows that Holly can’t Do a Decent Expression.

No. 932614

Sooo… Am I the only one that didn't know PP took place in the present? I thought it took place in the 80s/90s which explained the clunky video camera, diner hang out spot, and clothing but now they're pulling out iphones? Did she change her mind on the era and I missed the announcement or did it always take place in the present and I just didnt realize?
Although, now that I think about it Reese dresses like a 2010 emo so maybe I'm misremembering after all.

No. 932615

you might be mixing it up with purgatory, but she was also really bad at making that one look like it actually took place in that time period so i'm not sure. holly is really bad at every aspect of writing, including world building and setting a time frame.

No. 932620

Nah anon I member, she definitely said at one point it was set in the 80’s .

The dumb thing is, a slice of life comic where the main characters do all the action behind the scenes is kind of a good idea, if only holly was more self aware so she could write good comedy. Personally I think she needs to try stand up at least once so she could understand exactly how bad her jokes are. Idk what the scene is like in tx though

No. 932654

No I'm pretty sure Holly said it took place in the 80s, though I think she's gone back on that. She probably has trouble figuring out what time her stories take place.

No. 932660

You see anon this is what we call the warped Holly POV. She hasn't left her house regularly since high school which was what, 2010-2014? The world she's made in her comics has no outside thinking just Holly vision. Reminds me of that vivzi whatever and the vomit hotel.

No. 932665

Maybe it's supposed to have an overall 1980s tone/aesthetic, but still have current technology? I've seen a few movies and shows where they take a lot of inspiration from a certain era (like the 1960s or the 1980s) for the overall aesthetic, but still include technology not fit for the time, such as computers and cell phones and video games, so it creates a sense of "timelessness" if you will. Though, that's probably giving Holly way too much credit, and it's most likely just poor planning and laziness on her part.

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Not really milky but it looks she might finally fulfill orders. She can’t be that dumb to realized that orders haven’t been filled out for months. She was probably stalling for time.

No. 932692

What a coincidence. Today is the exact anniversary of her Kickstarter launch. She probably got an email or something informing her she still had rewards unfulfilled or she lurked because it was up here. There’s no way she “just realized” this when she was fine ignoring it for months on end.

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When I checked her KS the other day, there was maybe one or two cancelled pledges. There’s a substantial amount more right now. That’s probably what got her attention.

Also, good to know she’s still collecting money in her stores while not shipping anything. Why do these people still support her?!

No. 932700

Wait so this idiot not only is getting ripped off from the Kickstarter but from her store as well? These folks get multiple warning signs and yet keep supporting her.

No. 932710

Yeah those wooden charms and the copic stands? A lot of people complained she took their money but never sent it to her so then they all got refunds which is what got her Etsy store shut down. The pattern continues…

No. 932724

>> I just noticed
Am I the only one really bothered by her wording here? Ffs Holly, your last update was in fucking October, as was your last comment. Has she literally only today realized there's a truck-load of unsent Books still waiting in her room?

No. 932748

There's no way she just noticed.
I bet she only sent out rewards to important backers(Baylee) or the ones who paid the most

No. 932784

She's playing dumb to buy time. She probably didn't have the money to send them out because the KS money was spent on the laser and her new car. She had to wait to make money at her new jobs to send them out but she just keeps spending her money on crap she doesn't need. That's my guess anyway.

No. 932951


"Hollyistotallycool" is such a self-centered name to use for a professional email but that's so Holly.

No. 932956

probably made it when charlieissocoollike was popular. she also seems like the type to be really into him and/or Dan and Phil but that's just tinfoiling

No. 932965

She's had this email forever. It's kind of fitting she doesn't have a professional email for herself.

No. 933030

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Holly isn’t productive at all though. All she ever does is jump from one thing to another without ever finishing anything. I’m amazed she even finished purgatory but that was only because she would end up owing a lot of money back to her kickerstarter backers. Honestly I think it’s best when she’s not “productive” because it might actually give her a chance to sit on her quickly fleeting ideas and decide against them.

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I also find it ironic that she doesn’t feel productive even though she’s finally getting to make her new comic that’s she’s been talking about for years. And yet she doesn’t want to actually put in the effort to make it. All she wants is instant gratification and it’s plainly obvious here.

No. 933032

classy, back at spoiling her own storie, i see. I honestly tbhink she doesn't read a lot in her free time (books, comics, etc.), that would explain why she has absolutely no clue on how to capture her audience with her story

No. 933055

this is almost lost meme

No. 933063

No. 933068

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She was Almost Close to recognize that why she draws those Hair Floppy Things.

No. 933074

Is it just me, or does it seem like her saying “I’m getting rid of everything cause I only want to own like, four things” and “I’m not really into sublimation printing anymore”
Sound like she’s selling all her belongings again to pay debt or the things of value are being repossessed cause she fucked up something with her debt.

No. 933123

I was thinking the same thing.
I think she’s manic again and is going to get rid of shit only to buy them again when Holly gets money. It’s apart of her mental gymnastic routine.

No. 933131

as someone who had a similar problem once (spending too much money on shit whenever I had any) I can absolutely confirm that's what is happening - you start loathing the things you bought and try to sell them again/get rid of them. We've seen the cycle with her countless of times, pretty much a symptom of really bad self-confidence, she's trying to compensate.
(nothing new here, I know, just wanted to re-enforce)

No. 933132

Here we go again. She’s gonna sell everything and buy the same things again. Just like she did with her copics.

No. 933142


Or it's because she "just realized" her backers are starting to complain about not getting their kickstarter rewards and now has to scrounge up refund money.

No. 933227

It wa definitely. Red flag for me that she mentioned her mom getting upset at her for selling “her” stuff, only moments after explaining that her mom has “helped to fund it” like “the mugs were a birthday gift”… I’m wondering if that’s not all auntie has been helping with? Surely holly can’t afford her car payments - that would mean she’s have to save half her paychecks which doesnt seem to fit Holly’s financial history

No. 933242

Seriously I can't believe she doesn't see how much her mom enables her 'buy whatever art shit I want, when I want'…and she still has the gall to think she can live an improved life on her own. Fun fact holly, just because you collect turquoise kitchenware doesn't mean you're a functioning independent adult

No. 933314

to be fair, Holly is technically an adult - her mum/aunt doesn't really have a say in this. And from what we've hear she might be a hoarder herself, so I doubt she could really help Holly - and the fact our favourite trash artist is delusional is a given at this point.

No. 933361

That 1st and 2nd sketch doesnt look like Herschel lmao

No. 933386

Ugh yeah, I cringed when she was showing off her turquoise kitchen appliances. They're all packed away, unused, and she's seriously acting like she's already on her way out? That's why you can't move out Holly, you have poor impulse control

Most mature adults realize that their parents can still offer a valuable perspective - but I feel like Holly has an awkward relationship with her mom. Supposedly she pays rent and her car payments, which seems a little unbelievable.
But I recall a vlog where she was walking along a highway at like 5am to buy food because she feels guilty when her mom buys her food. Then she also treats her room like a dirty motel room with food, clothes, appliances everywhere. I don't know, there's something weird about it

No. 933409

Late reply but Kickstarter does not issue refunds. I remember looking into it once since I backed Omocat's scam of a KS but Kickstarter states some shit like "things happen, backing a project includes taking a risk that things will fall through" and absolve themselves of any responsibility when it comes to failed projects.

On their accountability page (https://www.kickstarter.com/blog/accountability-on-kickstarter) they state that creators are legally required to fulfill their rewards or offer a refund. This line in particular stands out
>We crafted these terms to create a legal requirement for creators to follow through on their projects, and to give backers a recourse if they don't. We hope that backers will consider using this provision only in cases where they feel that a creator has not made a good faith effort to complete the project and fulfill.

So I guess if one of her backers is loaded and angry enough to sue for their money back, they could and might actually win, but lol. I guess for Holly's benefit, her fanbase is pretty much all broke teens so she'll just continue to get off scot free.

No. 933441

Maybe this is why Holly is just now addressing this. Maybe KS sent her some messages about all the backers complaints

No. 933512

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Comment on her latest insta post.

it's been a year, holly.

No. 933515

She knows that she's making things harder for herself in the long run of doing this comic and it's equal parts sad and irritating.

No. 933522

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I find it beyond ridiculous at this point. She has literally stated that she has extra copies just hanging out in her hoard of a room and she sells the copies on her online store. She literally has zero reason to not ship the backers their items. It takes less than 5 minutes to pack it and 10-20 minutes to drop it off at the local USPS or whatever shipping service she’s using. But instead of doing that she chooses to draw more random crap of her OCs

No. 933552

She also spoiled in her instastory that princess and fat guy are/will be dating

No. 933563

She's live

No. 933567

Which video did she show off her plates?

No. 933589

She just went on this rant about not being able to be friends with girls if they are pretty because she wants to be the pretty one in the friend group so it's easier to be friends with guys because girls are scary and mean. She kept saying she'd be friends with 'fugly' girls over and over tho and I have to lol at her repeatedly implying her only known friend (Michelle) is fugly

No. 933590

Also she said cosplayers are embarrassing and cringey which has to include a significant amount of her fan base lol

No. 933607

Well, if you're a friendly and understanding person, girls won't be mean to you. I seriously wonder where she gets these ideas from? If she feels every girl she meets is judgemental of her, than that's probably just Holly coming off as judgemental first or cuz she made a poor first impression by making one of her horrible "edgy" jokes leading to them being wary of her.

Most girls don't give a shit if you're "ugly". That's such high school bullshit to think they do.

No. 933614

Is she sucking air through her teeth or slurping her own spit?

No. 933616

She's socially stunted. She's said before she had zero friends in college and she's naturally catty with low self esteem.

She wants to be the 'pretty one' like what does that even mean really?

No. 933618

it's slurping

No. 933629

I mean she does both whenever talking, its so fucking annoying and makes me stop watching her videos after a minute, I have no fucking idea why she does it and doesn't just change the setting on her mic to not pick up that disgusting shit

No. 933658

That's right, she probably brings it onto herself. Slight blog but I met a girl once who within the first 5 minutes said "Girls don't like me for some reason" which instantly turned me off. I feel like Holly is like that too.

No. 933660

What the hell, why does Holly keep spoiling everything? It astounds me how stupid she is sometimes

No. 933662

why would she do her bad like this

No. 933664

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During the stream someone mentioned her old Harry Potter art and she decided to fixed its profile

No. 933673

Loving that glasses step that goes right into the middle of his ear there?!
While I can't say it's gotten worse, it hasn't gotten better. Like the back of the head still feels weird and flat. And his eyes look like, 50% more terrifying and dead as they stare out into the darkness. And what the hell is up with the mouth.

No. 933684

I think it definitely looks better, less troll-like, but the glasses are wrecked and the neck is too straight/stiff. Also, what's with that weird light patch under his neck?

No. 933691

Silly thats obviously the bounce light, she went to art school you know /s

No. 933698

She worries me with how much she casually brings up wanting to kill her pets

No. 933701

how much time is there between the redraw and the original? because it's definitely better, but this is the sort of improvement you get from googling some basic proportions and anatomy for like a minute and she still has things to fix on it.

No. 933709

Original is from September 2016 and redraw was from her livestream last night

No. 933723

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Jeez. I feel bad for her in this situation. She just got the car less than a year ago too

No. 933726

Ugh same, I believe she said something like "Let me just get these animals out before I want to slit their throats." Like who the hell says that about their own pets??

No. 933727

That's concerning, what is she saying this time?

Wow that's terrible. If the car is totaled, she probably got hurt too, even if she's mostly fine

No. 933734

She says it on the 14:30 mark

No. 933736

Tbh she does lie a fuckton for sympathy points so I'm not sure I believe her but I guess we'll see.

No. 933738

the fact that she says it while laughing too.. what the fuck

No. 933739

Not sure if this would be considered cow tipping but there’s probably some kind of open record about this if there’s an ongoing investigation. Might be hard to find since we don’t know where it happened though.

At least if she wasn’t at fault her insurance will cover it.

No. 933764

Did anyone actually enjoy her art/videos before shit hit the fan?

No. 933779

I watched her videos when i was just getting into art. I always thought her art was ugly though and i never really watched her again until the drama hit

No. 933782

when i just started drawing more i saw that infamous one of hers, where she talks about anatomy and even then i knew what she was saying wasn't correct at all.

No. 933797


I only found her YT a couple years ago, and from first impressions, her YT and her work ethic seemed very motivational. I liked that she had a project and was working towards it. Hell, she even got a book to print, which is impressive, even if the art style isn't my tastes. The work ethic (or the illusion of) is what drew me in.

No. 933815

I remember finding her “same face” video when I was struggling with the same issue. Even at the time I realized how silly it was that her only tip was changing the face shape rather than the proportions of the facial features and their various relations. Despite that, I did enjoy her “relatability” but to be fair, I was a teen.

No. 933824

I found her CalArts rant when I was checking sketchbooks and I found her the saltiest art person I'd ever seen at the time. I didn't even watch art youtubers then, I started "hatewatching" her videos before these threads were made.

No. 933831

No but Im in my twenties and most of her fans are teenagers. I saw her videos being recommend and watched them because she was so annoying and wrong about everything she said lol. I would show them to my friends (who are also artists) and we would complain about her together

No. 933835

Lol no, her art has always looked like shit to me.

Its actually really sad that I've been reading these threads since the begining and since then been able to learn to draw professionally as a freelance concept artist while holly literally hasnt improved one bit. I just pity watch at this point

Its crazy how when you think that the only difference between someone achieving something and someone getting no where is that you have to be motivated and constantly strive for that goal, not just brush it aside and hope it comes true one day

No. 933836

I used to watch her videos back when she made this joke video about inking traditionally, and then some of her traditional ink stuff. I thought she was interesting and different and at the time I liked watching art youtubers. But then I quickly got tired of what she was doing. I didn't think her art was necessarily fantastic, but I did think the style was interesting and different?

No. 933848

Her old sketchbook videos showed a lot of potential, but she's allowed herself to become stagnant. There are a lot of her old fans here that simply grew up and realized that her art wasn't up to par/good

No. 933853

I found her calarts video when I was going through the teenage "I wanna work for Disney" phase. I liked at the time how edgy and depressing she was because I was edgy and depressed, and fed into the delusional narrative that you don't have to study anatomy or do hyper realism and could just draw cartoons of your ocs all day. it appealed to me as a teenager and then I didn't get into the forums until going on a nostalgia trip after not watching for a while and she was deleting her whole channel and mentioned the "haters forum". thank you guys for helping bring to light all the shitty stuff she's done. the optimist in me hopes she can change for the better, but in the meantime this is a real nice ego trip and I appreciate yall

No. 934079

I didn't really watch her as a fan per say, but I would watch her videos from time to time if they popped up in my recommended. The first video I saw from her was the Anatomy Mistakes one, which as a very beginning teen artist at the time I thought it was funny and interesting. But I was really put off by how she would interact with people in the comments. She was just so hostile to anyone who questioned or contradicted her. I checked out her channel and watched some of her color theory video, and I remember a few people saying how taking color theory classes might not be feasible for all artists, like due to financial constraints and such, and she kept saying how if you're not willing to pay the necessary costs of being an aritst, that you're not dedicated enough and that you're not a "real" artist. That was some fucked up shit for a young teen like me to hear, and I'm glad that I can now recognize that as the bullshit it actually is. I wonder if that's why she constantly wastes money on stupid crap like the laser and the sublimation printer. She probably overcompensating for her lack of artistic skill by buying expensive ass artistic shit, so she can still call herself a REAL artist.

No. 934115

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>when a known serial fraudster suddenly needs a lot of cash and an insured item of theirs is immediately subsequently 'totaled'

No. 934134

has she always been replacing punctuation with a hyphen and am I just now noticing it or has she picked this up from somewhere recently because that is extremely annoying to read

No. 934157

i don't think she ever did that before. i'm probably being pretty nitpicky but i have to agree that it's really annoying to read.

No. 934193

She's been using 'idk' as punctuation lmfao

No. 934282

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Update on the car situation

No. 934430

A truck? Trucks are more expensive than sedans in every way. Gas, repairs, sticker price, etc.

No. 934482

Honestly I only found her through a random mention on a Tumblr blog and looking at her videos … I'm actually shocked she had as many followers as she did.

Her attitude is so bad that even watch her review videos makes me wonder what these companies saw in her.

No. 934483

She's a Texan of course she wants a fucking truck.

No. 934553

A bike is actually a really good idea, and the exercise may benefit her mental health by getting the endorphins going.
A truck is a not-so-great idea.

No. 934555

She could've been biking to work this entire time? And instead she spends money on a car and now wants a SECOND car? yikes

No. 934586

That truck is going to eat up all her gas and she will regret this purchase once she sees how much money it will take to keep it. Fucking never learns

No. 934839

yeah…. she keeps yelling at someone (the dog?) to "go away" while she's live streaming…. and she begs her dog (named 'Pig') to "die in a fire"…….

No. 934848

Not me, didn't even know she existed before drama channels started talking about her tracing Full Metal Alchemist as a commission. [ sage ](lolcow.farm/info)

No. 934859

that's not how you sage lmao

No. 934864

Put sage in the email field, my dude.

No. 934885

To anyone new here you type "sage" in the email section of the post if you're not posting milk, I doubt anyone actually reads the rules so I just want to make sure the few people who don't know can now know and not potentially get a temp ban from mucking up the threads

No. 934967

And so Holly's debt hole keeps getting deeper.

No. 934985

And yet we're supposed to believe that she really does love cats specifically, enough to draw them everywhere, even though she found a cat death hilarious (the one that snapped its neck jumping off or on the bed, can't recall) and she keeps wishing death on other animals…. okay

No. 935030

Did she say if she was gonna apply for san japan this year? I remember her saying in a stream thats the only time she gets to see twisteddisaster

No. 935103


Did you newfags not read the above posts? Sage your fucking shit.

No. 935293

No. 935312

i wonder how newfags keep finding this thread, especially when it's really not as active as it used to be. maybe people who didn't get their kickstarter rewards are starting to find this thread and are coming to bitch here?

No. 935322

If that's the case, they should fuck off and go bitch to holly on her every sm
You're not gonna get your rewards here

No. 935325

This is one of the first results when you search her name, its not exactly hidden in the far reaches of the internet to be your own exclusive thing as you'd like to think.

No. 935328

true, but the newfags being salty ks donators would explain why they are too dumb to learn to sage, they donated to holly after all.

No. 935514

What is this supposed to be

No. 935950

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She's piercing her own ears.

No. 935957

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The impulsiveness is amazing. Too bad she doesn’t have the same energy to fullfil her kickstart or PP.

No. 935960

Holy shit, those piercing guns are awful and can cause horrible scarring and damage. The placement is all kinds of fucked up as well. Just go to a professional who uses an actual needle

No. 935962

Wtf is wrong with her?? shaving off your hair is one thing but this is getting legitimately dangerous

No. 935965

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Someone already tried talking some sense into her. She hates being told what to do that she’d do anything to spite other people even though she’s messing up her own life. She acts like such a child that it’s why I love to watch this train wreck.

No. 935974


She'll bend over backwards to avoid human interaction, too. As long as she doesn't have to talk to or pay someone (god forbid).

No. 935988

Can’t wait for the saga of Holly getting an infection, starting a Gofundme for the medical bills and then fucking off with the money again

No. 935990

Hope she gets a gnarly infection. Stupid bitch

No. 935996

Is she gonna amputate her own earlobes at home when they get horrifically mangled/infected to avoid human interaction too?

No. 936005

Isn't getting your ears pierced insanely cheap and quick? Lmao just pay someone to do it wtf

No. 936011

can she get anymore trashy?

No. 936015

It's like $20 to $25 for a professional to do it with a sterile needle and gloves. does she even wear gloves??

No. 936023

you idiots posted twenty times saying how much 'safer', 'cheaper' it would be at a place when she says right there, twice, that she is doing it for self-harm. When she lost her car she said she's 'ready to eject'. She's stressed and adrenalised af and a little bit of flesh tearing will vent some of that off. Have you never noticed her arms, retards?

No. 936053

how is this girl able to get so many jobs?

yeah yeah applying and all…but she aces the interview?

She seems to go through jobs quickly.

No. 936082

We're aware, anon. Relax.

Holly desperately needs therapy– I think we can all agree on that.

No. 936087

She's streaming now

No. 936093

Looks like a Harry Potter animatic. So glad she's wasting time on an old and buried project instead of the countless other obligations.

No. 936096

It’s apparently a Michael in the bathroom animatic, but the amount she’s talking about Harry Potter on stream it may as well be.

No. 936162

Her same face is so strong there was no way to tell lol

No. 936203

whoever the bryan dude in hollys stream is your cowtipping and autistic trolling are more obnoxious than hollys improv fanfic reading

No. 936213

Why is she not focusing on Paranormal Plague? She's making more useless side projects.

No. 936233


Because she continues to waste her time and her drooling fans with her misplaced energy.

No. 936241

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Does anyone remember what ended up happening with this shit? I found this while going through my old harddrive. God they make me wanna puke.

No. 936313

She basically said she wants to quit regular art youtube videos to post animatics. Weirdly enough the same thing is going on right now with Baylee Jae who wants to quit the art videos for animation.

I don't see the switch working for any of them. There is a reason why animation on Youtube pretty much died aside from storytime videos and people who actually animate do it thanks to Patreon support or streaming their progress on Twitch. It's like a month of work for a video that won't reach 10 minutes so it won't be able to be monetized… much easier to turn on the camera while showing a sketchbook or drawing a picture and ramble about something.

I'm not sure how other anons feel about this but I find it funny how she thinks she's being less controversial in this new channel spamming streams instead of when she didn't stream ever and only did salty videos on art topics. Having crap hot takes about art is not that serious but her unstable hateful personality really leaks in the streams. I rather have her shit on art topics than shit on other people, her animals, her coworkers, her job and anything that breathes. Not only is she more controversial now than she used to be, she makes less money as well and spends hours on these mostly fucking around distracted by chat.

No. 936329

ugh. shes like that 'writer' who takes their laptop to Starbucks to make a show of how they write. this is the type of cuntent that actual illustrators and animators don't upload. keep your sketches to your sketchbooks. art live streams are only interesting when the artist has mad skills (which Holly does not have). ugh. she tries so hard at self deprecating humor, but it just makes the whole thing worse. none of this is funny, it's just sad.

No. 936333

From an artistic perspective, anyone have any idea why her cats and bottles (and even the food) drawings she makes look so much better than her human characters?

No. 936338

They don’t really look any better to me anon possibly just more heavily referenced because, it’s generally easier to find ref for objects rather than people in specific poses and expressions

No. 936339

I assume it's because she sees objects and cats all the time and likes old vintage stuff and cats. She references them too.
But since she doesn't like humans, doesn't interact with them she doesn't like to look for references either.
Stuff that you actually like, you draw better.

Sorry terrible english.

No. 936358

the objects, yeah they can look nice when they're not wonky or lean all over. the cats, not so much? she draws this one type of cartoon cat a 12yo into warrior cats would

No. 936410

I'm like 90% sure she threw those out (along with the Ash & Herschel pins and the guro anime girl ones)

No. 936433

You may be a prick but you're right. This is just a form of self harm to her, it's not about the piercing itself.

No. 936456

Because objects and cartoon cats are basic shapes you build details on and human anatomy involves bones and muscles Holly is too braindead to bother studying. Anatomy takes practice and study and Holly is too good for shit like that. Four years of art school guys… Four years of professors telling her to study and her bitching about wanting to draw anime.

No. 937243

Holy shit, Holly actually 'wrote' an explicit Snape/Sirius 'fancomic' at the end of this stream.

No. 937381

Lol we called it.

But honestly, it was very predictable she’d love Carry On which is basically gay HP fan fiction, its another fandom she could ruin

No. 937391

It's amazing to me how someone so concerned about having and making money could lose money on absolutely everything she tries to do. Just when I think her self-sabotage can't get any worse she pulls an idea out of her ass that takes her further on a neverending downward spiral of obscurity, poverty and even more mental issues. The only thing she's good at, at this point, is fucking up her life.
The sad thing is, her life would be so much better if she just did the opposite of every impulsive idea she decides to go with.

No. 937422

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Sirius x Snape fanfic we all knew was coming. The last panel of the three she posted on Twitter

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No. 937433

none of these characters have hips (except for Ash… and even then, it's more like thicc thighs).

No. 937435

I like how she seemed to have a set height to all characters but had to move them up and down to fit to the height chart. Look at the feet.

No. 937441

Everyone looks so fucking miserable, or like they've got a gun pointed at them and being told to smile.
Also I don't like any of how the guy on the far right is executed. She doesn't know how to draw textured hair. And his arms are too short, like he's the back of a cardboard cut out, it's killing me how flat he and everyone else is. Holly PLEASE do an action scene I cannot wait to see it.

No. 937457


Wow, she made Princess look like an actual child. Right down to the overalls… She looks like a little white girl Holly colored brown because diversity.

I REALLY don't like that the big white guy next to her is supposed to be her love interest. It feels very wrong.

No. 937461

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Can we please talk about these proportions??

No. 937464

short adult women exist anon lmao, height difference doesn't make it wrong. holly really could do to draw them better, but imo for example her face doesn't look too young.

No. 937466


I think anons' discomfort of the size play comes from Hollys' past character pairing and shipping of adults with children. Size kink or play is fine; but with Holly, it does come across as: "smol child sized girl is an adult, and therefore legal finger guns"

No. 937470

yeah, i think it's more about Princess having a child-like body (flat chested, very skinny, no hips, no ass). and her height definitely isn't helping. the only thing that makes her face not look young are her thick lips. her eyes are huge (even by Holly's standards: compare with the other characters in the chart) and Princess has no wrinkles or lines or folds or anything on her face (unlike the dark skinned policeman right next to her who does look about 30 years old).

No. 937471

Not to mention its hella common in yaoi

No. 937474


There is so much; I'm not sure where to start. Ignoring anything that might be classified as 'style', and focusing solely on anatomy issues:

-Most of the arm lengths are wack. Like, Ash has a shoulder higher, but the arm that's higher, is also longer, making it 3-4 relative inches longer than her other arm.
Don't even get me started on 6'4" man on the end; what is with that baby arm?

-6'10" man has a weird baby head. For a man that large, he should have a bigger head and neck. Height and size isn't just how long your legs are. The proportions are wack.

-Hard to judge Princess. Something is off. I keep looking at her, but it's hard to pick out what's wrong. Maybe it's just because she's surrounded by giants? Either way; for a child sized anorexic, she has a very full face. Maybe cheekbones would help sell her character?

-Not an anatomy thing… but Shrek hairs' bandages are gross. That's someone you don't want swimming at the public pool. Just looking at him, I can taste chlorine and dirty latex bandages. Ack.

No. 937477

oh damn, i didn't know about the adult and child shipping. then i understand the assumption.

No. 937491

goddamn holly let your readers meet these characters in-comic and don't just give then tidbits like this

No. 937496


I think I know what else it is about this lineup; none of them look like they were drawn on the same plane or even in the same file. None of them have a center of balance between the upper and lower halves of their bodies, and none of them are proportional.
Character lineups like these are almost as much a pain in the ass as character turnarounds, because proportion and balance, are things you actually have to pay attention to when you're making any kind of character reference.


She's been over sharing her characters for over a year now, she's well beyond tricking herself into thinking she's already told the story without having done anything concrete.
That's the thing about long term projects: there's a lot of shit you need to keep your mouth shut about, or you've fools yourself into thinking "I've already done this thing/told my story". That's why she always goes back and fucking noodles around aimlessly, reworking, rewriting, and retelling everything. She's had like three false starts on this one comic because there's always some element of it she wanted to change, but she always, without fail, ends up blabbing and then it's back to square fucking one. Back to fucking around and noodling.

No. 937550

What really bothers me is the fact that Holly doesn't seem to realise that hands extend past the crotch? So the arms are so absurdly short that it just looks fucking weird.

Also Lafayette's left arm is literally a midget arm compared to the rest of him. And they're all so badly and awkwardly posed. It's just a bit of a sad mess

No. 937578

How's the 100 days of comics going? Last YT update was over a week ago, lol.

No. 937585

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How can anyone see this and click upload

No. 937621

In her last stream she said she was starting over (shocker) because she skipped a day.

No. 937638

Is she copying his name from Lafayette in True Blood? Who is also black? Lol no imagination

No. 937643

no, afaik we don't actually know his name yet (holly hasn't given one) and we're just calling him lafayette because she very clearly copied the look of the guy from hamilton who played the character lafayette. still incredibly imaginative of her, though.

No. 937675

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Holly posted two pages of pp on Tapas yesterday. Nothing really new since she already posted them on her instagram story awhile back with just the lineart. (1/2)

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No. 937680

How are there so many continuity errors in one page? And I hate how she keeps breaking the 180 degree rule. It's not that fucking hard, Holly.

No. 937707

the 4 inches between Ash and Reese is way greater than the 6 inches between Reese and Herschel…

No. 937728

Because Ash's feet don't line up with Reese and Herschel's feet.

No. 937773


Lol, I legit thought you were making a dick joke until I saw your link.

But yeah; as far as height charts go, this one is lacking and borderline useless.

No. 937775


Old cheese by this point, but those pleated arms of Hershels' are getting worse.

Also, has anyone decrypted the meaning of 'tap tap' yet? Who's hand is that? What does it mean?

No. 937776

I was wondering too, is it Ash tapping Princess' shoulder to get her attention? Since she speaks to her after that.
It's so strange to dedicate two panels to that when the interactions otherwise move really fast, though.

No. 937778


Really though. What fun is getting into a comic, when you've already met all the characters.
Even 'Lafayettes' tattoos probably hint at his paranormal form, since it's the same tattoo on both arms.

No. 937814

so the names we know… ash, reese, hershel, rusty (? i saw it in the comments of this post on ig), princess, no idea, no idea.
shit. wanna bet this dude is some kind of centipede?

No. 937821


seconding this. with how much she's already given about the story and how the paranormals work, it seems pretty obvious what she's trying to foreshadow. she's not at all subtle.

also, i know she's never seen a person of color outside of watching the hamilton bootleg, but can she at least try to study what textured hair looks like before drawing it? lafayette is the flattest character on the page. i wonder if she'll decide to just not learn how to draw textured hair and give him an easier to draw more white hairstyle like she did with princess.

No. 937827

I believe Rusty is her Edward Elric knockoff from Clever Kitchen. I think the fat guy is called Orson (?), no idea about the other two though

No. 937828

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lmao, princess looks weird because holly drew her and then just scaled her down. she doesn't know how to draw short people. Look how fucking odd she looks next to hershel

No. 937833

In addition her thigh bones are twice the length of her shins.

No. 937852

Compare this to any of the pages jfc it's so inconsistent what was the point

No. 937895

I have no idea, you can't even see what's being tapped. It's honestly distracting to my dumb animal brain because everything else seems to make sense but those two panels

No. 937901

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Did she forget about his tattoo in this one or what

No. 937905

Maybe that's a flashback from when they were in the military or something, and that the guy didn't have his tattoos yet. But then again, it's Holly we're talking about so she might as well forgot.

No. 937914

I thought this piece wasn't canon and holly just randomly drew it

No. 938147


Are her comics always this backgroundless?

Having backgrounds makes everything feel more real. Like the characters are actually in a place, cafe, a bedroom, hallway and not just some white void.

who lied to this girl that she could do comics?

Also she sucks at panel structure. None of it makes your eyes go along the page that would help move you along.

That second pic where the black girl is looking towards the guys phone. Her eyes look to the left when she should be looking to the right. Our eyes will follow hers into the next panel.

No. 938165

i think it could benefit even by having flat colors as backgrounds. so much less boring. the panel structure is awful, but what REALLY gets me is the lettering. The speech bubbles are lopsided
and why make the one bubble AND the text crooked?

No. 938233

Princess is looking at Ash in that panel not the phone. The phone is the last panel it happens after that.

No. 938239

Purgatory used to have a lot of backgrounds (read brick walls) but with every redraw it became more soulless and "efficient" because Holly wanted to be able to shit out pages as fast as possible

No. 938253

which is still a bit of a joke in itself, considering she doesn't really earn money with her comic anyways. I guess that's one of my biggest gripes with her - not only is she not working efficiently, she has absolutely no obligation to upload pages that often (her fans never really mind at least) ans she STILL manages to make everything in a rushed manner.
She re-drew PP like 3 times now and it's not only her anatomy and shape language that have gotten wore, it still looks like she can't be arsed to actually take some time to create something that at least has some love to it. She literally just shits it out.

No. 938260

how far has she ever gotten in Paranormal Plague?

I recently skimmed throught her old videos from like 3 years ago and she was already redoing it. :DD(:DD)

No. 938262

calling it she'll just abandon it in the end anyway. If only she could just let the skipped day be skipped and continue the challenge like a normal person.

No. 938347

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Who’s gonna tell her lmao

No. 938411


Her eyes should still be looking to the right, so our eyes follow along into the next panel. This is comic basics 101. It should be set up in a way where our eyes can easily flow along the page. Not jump back and forth.

don't try to defend this haha. This is just bad and it's pretty evident that holly has no idea how pacing or composition works.

Scott Mccloud, though his art isn't the best either at least does know how comics work and she could benefit from reading even one of his books. She should also be reading some actual published comics, award winners even to get a sense how a good comic is structured. She isn't learning shit from her crappy Japanese doujin comics made by armatures.

No. 938426

I was definitely not defending it I just understood the panels I guess. But yeah you're right it reads like a crappy doujin. It's shocking she's already drawn so many comic pages but is still so bad at paneling.

No. 938436


She's read Blankets by Craig Thompson so she will read western graphic novels. As much as she hates them, she might benefit from reading superhero comics, if only for figuring out panel layout for action scenes.

I think she mentioned Scott McCloud's The Sculptor before but I think she was just bashing the art style for it.

No. 938449

I'm sorry!! I'll give you credit for being able to follow what the hell is happening in that page lol

I guess it bugs me how she is doing it because aren't people paying for this? aren't most people paying using their mom's credit card?

"Hey mom, can I buy this book online?" and never receiving a product.

sure it is just a silly book by a shit youtube artist but people deserve a good quality item if they are paying for it.


she should be reading a lot of western manga. Eastern manga isn't doing her favours. The way she panels along with the flow read like we should be reading right to left.

Superhero comics, as lame as the can be will teach her how to tell a story with words and pictures, not new ones but more older ones anyways. I'm thinking of 80s teen titans where half the time it read like a soap opera.

Scott McCloud is low tier artist, but he really does know how to make a comic at least. Holly can't do art or proper story telling so her comics are just pure shit. A good story can always make up for bad art.

I do remember holly going on about how art is super important to her when it doesn't appear to be.

I think she likes the idea of being a 'tortured' artist. The kind that wallows in self pity or a drunken stupor all day and can still produce amazing work. She can't be she sure wishes.

Holly, you aren't Hemingway.

No. 938467

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>A good story can always make up for bad art.
Absolutely. If Holly could execute a story well, I would probably look at her art as 'ugly but very endearing and uniquely Holly' rather than 'it looks like someone had a seizure while holding a pencil'

She could probably benefit from having a writer flesh out her ideas better, but it's not like she has friends who would do it for free/fun or the money to ever hire one.

No. 938476


It's like she forgets that when making a comic, you are telling a story lol

Does she read? not just comics but novels? It would help her a lot with, well, how to tell a story. I don't care if she reads the twilight saga first then continues on to an actual challenging read she needs to start.

She should also be watching movies. Not to sound like a film fag but there are a lot of great movies that'll help her. Since she loves doing challenges so much she could do a story board challenge.

Eastern doujins aren't helping this girl at all. There not meant to be copied and held to a standard you want to emulate, Holly.

No. 938504

She doesn't understand comics on a fundamental level. She doesn't know how to write a story for one either.
It's clear that she just came up with a bunch of OCs, kicked around a few scraps of cliché character tropes and tired themes, and tried to cobble them together in this thing she thinks is a cohesive story.
I'm willing to bet that she genuinely hasn't written this comic past this one scene she keeps redrawing. Beyond this diner scene, there's nothing. At this point, she's on like her 3rd redraw. She's forcing something to come out of her brain and onto the canvas that obviously isn't fully formed.
She'll muck about with the same handful of characters, hoping her fans would be satisfied with her coming up with more bullshit doodles. All the shit she has for her story and characters are in her head and she expects people to keep following her, and as far as she's concerned, she's said what she had to say and show about them.

The delusional part is that she thinks everyone knows what's in her brain when she shits out another idea for them, and then it's "OK give me money".

Honestly she's done fuck-all so far, except spin her wheels.

No. 938574

She said she doesn't like to do scripts before, right? I feel like she'd benefit from reading about screenwriting. Though, she'd benefit from doing any kind of research.

In one of her videos, Holly mentioned how much she hates introductory chapters so why can't she just jump past it and introduce her characters along the story? I wouldn't mind a intro chapter being chapter 2 as long as we move out of this diner scene.

No. 938616


makes it more frustration that she still gets people funding a kickstarter. Not to be one of those people but there are some good artists that don't get much attention but Holly makes a youtube channel, plays up a Misanthrope shtick and little tweens and teens eat that shit up.

Holly needs to read a screenplay book. She needs needs to read a "how to write stories 101" book. Memorize pixar's 22 Rules of story telling. She just needs to read books, not doujins made by bored japanese girls.

She strikes me as someone who just thought "I'll do comics, seems easy enough. I just make some character sheets and the story will just to me, right?"

God no. It takes writing out the story, whether you write it like a novel or a screenplay. Then you should get someone to read it. Fix something they may not understand in the story. Next is to make a rough draft of each page and how it's going to flow.

Holly does none of these things. Just get's started on the final draft. What you aren't supposed to do. It's a big reason why she keeps failing. Comics are harder to do than they look. You need to know pacing, flow, perspective and composition.

She needs someone to look over her shit before puts it online. Can't her mom or aunt look at her stuff for her? I'd say a co-worker but she for sure is that one co-worker no one else likes because she is so unpleasant and then wonders why no one talks to her. Also she appears to be someone who can't take criticism well. She might just shave her hair off at 2am again.

No. 938857

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She's showing off her awful animation skills again.

No. 938868

what's with her wanting to change her username all of the sudden? she's been using her real name for so long, it's not like people can't connect her to that later. also this is so damn stiff, i get the character not moving if it's just the wind blowing but that simple hair movement is so bad.

No. 938885

I'm just getting into animation and by god is that so stiff… did she just do mainly her key frames then one inbetween?? Where's the drag? Where's any sort of flow?

No. 938919

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all I can see

No. 938964

so NOW she finally figures it out that her only chance for reviving her dead online image is rebranding herself? what a joke. not like people can't look at her work and instantly tell it's her as she hasn't improved since she started her yt.

No. 938976

and shes live

No. 938986

She's talking about getting a tattoo and shows off her old SH scars. They're healed but one is pretty big and apparently still causes her some pain.

No. 939001

i could get getting one that hides it as a way to have it not remind her, but to show it off? now that's not normal at all.

No. 939027

Oh no she's not wanting to show it off she's just showing them to the stream when talking about where she wants one done. She doesn't want a sleeve because it would 'deflate' since she's 'fat.'

No. 939030

this stream didn't actually seem too bad. of course the art still is pretty atrocious but like. she actually seems to have a little bit of a better handle on things now

No. 939102


Why does she hold the pen like that?

The way she is holding it goes against wanting to do smaller fine details in drawings. Her grip on the pen is not helping her.

Did holly even attend high school art class? because if you take even one class you learn enough of the basics. How to hold a pencil, when to use your shoulder when drawing.

why art? why did she get into art? she isn't good at it and it's been years and there still hasn't been improving, why does she keep lying to herself. She doesn't have friends to feed her ego to make her believe she is better at art than she really is, so it can't be Dobson Syndrome.

No. 939120

I firmly believe anyone can learn art if they're open-minded and willing to trust others to teach them. Holly is too stubborn to improve, study, and use reference to enhance her art. She wants to be good without having to study but that's impossible for almost everyone. She's trying to improve by drawing fictional characters from her head over and over again, which just leads to regression. She thinks as long as she keeps drawing the same thing, she'll get better, but that's not how it works when she doesn't challenge herself or use any form of reference she can actually see.

For the art high school thing, well… At least here, art high schools don't have the same standards as good art colleges. They teach you the fundamentals, and tell you to draw and paint very specific things. It's hard to mess that up, and they'll pass you as long as you followed the process even if the end product isn't that great. Side note, I've heard that many students who went to art high school don't even continue in the arts afterwards.

No. 939136


haha I meant like regular High school. You know "I'm so glad I have art class after Math class, I can unwind a little." even basic art class in high school teaches you some key pointers.

She did an online art school that she admits the teachers told her she sucks but had a very "whatever, I draw what I want!" attitude. I know she refuses to grow and change and yes she for sure never challenges herself.

I just wonder why she decided on art to be her thing. She never wants to improve, she never accepts criticism. She seems to hate it despite how much she does it. She suffers from the same syndrome as Baylee Jae "If I buy these expensive art supplies it will magically make me better at art."

She is a terrible artist. She doesn't have what it takes. She has no discipline to do art. She forgets it takes a lot of focus and determination and a willingness to suck before you get better.

I met one art teacher who said "Never use references, ever." and she meant for everything, we should just know how to draw it without seeing it and yes she meant when sketching and she thought marketing your art online was stupid and never works… Holly appears to do this (in terms of not using a reference) It's like she takes pride in the fact she doesn't use a reference. She probably doesn't understand what it means to use a reference for a piece of art.

I'll say it again, art is not for Holly. Sure anyone can learn but not this girl. She doesn't have it.

No. 939226

Shes officially rebranding her channel to animation, such a strange move. At that point why didn't she just let the Russians keep her channel if shes pulling a complete 180 anyways? Art videos are completely different than animation her remaining casual viewers won't stick around and her animations definitely won't draw in new people anytime soon.
Also she can't even finish a comic page how the hell is she gonna finish an animation/animatic? And she doesn't seem like the type to make animation memes or join MAPs so wtf are we gonna get animation-wise? It seems like someone got waaaay too inspired by Hazbin Hotel. How much you wanna bet theres gonna be an attempt at a PP pilot?

No. 939233


1) white men are evil
2) especially if they has blue eyes
3) i know like 2 blue eyed white men who are 'unpleasant', so they're all evil (stadard incel logic)
4) Billie in Stranger Things is a hottie…. but eww he's 26 years old. he's TOO OLD. (for Holly who is 24…)
5) thirsting after barely legal boys
6) thirsting after (young) Zac Efron
7) womansplaining how to tell if a young person is of legal age (because all teens have babyface) …like Millie Bobby Brown (even with tons of make-up on and that weird unflattering dress she wore to the Screen Actors Guild Awards)…. really, Holly is a master at telling if a teen is a minor or not: Onision should take Skillshare classes from her.
8) my merch is not here yet because of medical health professionals who are doing their job and protecting my state from the Corona virus.
9) i ordered charms from China (during a serious Corona virus outbreak there) and it's not my fault those things were not delivered. that's all on Corona-chan.
10) Corona makes me angry because it delays the crappy merch i was trying to sell to you. i dont care about all the people who die(d). nah, fuck that. why dont these Chinese people work harder and make my merch already????

and that's just the first 25 minutes. Jesus Christ i cant sit through 2 hours of this crap stream. who cares if Holly is rebranding or not? i dont. thats her problem. what im disgusted by is this shitty attitude of hers she exposes herself in her own streams.

i guess after awhile you stop noticing this shit as you become desensitized to this bullshit because it happens in like every stream Holly makes

No. 939246

God wtf is happening with her..? How is someone who's 26 too old for her??? That's a HUGE red flag imo…

Regarding the coronavirus, parcels will spend ages in transit then when they land, they should be irradiated to kill any germs leftover( at least they do that in Australia). Either way, if those charms are ever delivered, she can always quarantine them away from her family.

Either way I'm sickened that all she gives too shits about is her order when there's so many lives on the line, so many dead and suffering people.. how does she not care about another person's life?

No. 939249

And? Plenty of businesses are affected by Corona. It is a big economic problem. It's not that strange imo that Holly would be mad about that. A pretty natural reaction, if you ask me.

No. 939250

here we go again with the cringey reaching. are you the same fucking anon?
>how could she feel bad about losing $1000 when her cat is fine she should be happy
>how could she feel pressed that product she's supposed to supply isn't going to get to her

No. 939251

yeah. this does negatively affect people who work with China. but they do actual business, unlike Holly, who blames all her shortcomings on other people

anon, shes not saying shes attracted to teens. you obviously werent paying attention to what shes saying (i cant blame you, but)

she did say she's glad the actor is 25. because she feels attracted to him. because he's obviously 25 and not a teenager (hence the babyface discussion: she said she knew while watching that this actor was older) and it was ok for her to be attracted to him

also she had a crush on Zac Efron when she was in middle school. (not now.)

No. 939253

I'm not the same anon, please don't put words into my mouth, products can be replaced, the life of a dear pet who's part of a family isn't. Second point, she can simple put out a statement with proof of the parcel issue, I never once said she shouldn't feel pressed about supplies not getting to her.

No. 939255

Same anon but I will also admit faults regarding the first part which was talking about Billy from stranger Things, I went back and rewatched that part. But her all encompassing 'white men are evil' comment is a toxic mentality to have.

No. 939257

The username change is literally 3 years too late. She's already completely tarnished her reputation as an artist under her real legal name.

No. 939354

>holly absolutely hates it, when people drawing her, not in a cartoon way.

No. 939364

Well we should for sure do a thread of holly portraits then

No. 939367

> It seems like someone got waaaay too inspired by Hazbin Hotel. How much you wanna bet theres gonna be an attempt at a PP pilot?
Oh, absolutely loool thank fuck we've moved on from Purgatory or we'd be seeing the rape scene first w/ some bullshit excuse like "I just thought animating the candles would be easy lol idk"

No. 939370

Holly went to an art oriented high school she's been taking art classes consistently since at least 15. She just hates listening to teachers tell her to stop drawing OCs without reference and just study please.

I remember back when these threads were new and she was in art school she used to post her figure studies and complain the teachers were telling her they were too stylized like she genuinely doesn't understand how to draw.

No. 939426


Did her mom pay a tuition for this school or was it a high school that just focused more on the arts? sperg-My high school focused on the arts though we were severely under funded and it closed down 5 years after I graduated lol anyways for holly going to an arts dominated school, I just would have figured she'd take art more seriously. Maybe listen to the teachers more.

yeah I get the vibe from her she just doesn't understand how to draw. She should just stop doing art, it's not for her. Her mentality is shit and her work ethic follows suit. I don't care she has job, she probably never picks up extra shifts and begs for as little hours as possible.

can't stress this enough. Her world view is very limited. She appears to not have had many friends, having friends leads to conversations which lead into agreements and disagreements, people challenging your views. I feel she didn't get this enough. Another thing she appears to not watch many movies, which are very beneficial for comics. She doesn't appear to read anything, doujin manga doesn't count. She wants to make comics without having any idea how to make one and has no idea how to tell a story. Has anyone told her this? or is she that much of a dead horse?

No. 939445

What does Holly even do in a day? She supposedly has a job/ jobs at all times, but what does she do for fun? Only draws her OCs and wonky cats/ random objects over and over without looking at references ever? She doesn't read, doesn't watch movies, doesn't consume media as a consumer because they're losers and she's cool because she's a creator or what? I genuinely can't wrap my mind around someone who wants to write and draw but doesn't consume media themselves. Why do you want to create yourself if you're not a fan of x thing first and foremost?

No. 939446

umm isnt she like a big fan of Harry Potter? (i cant beleive people keep forgetting that… when its mentioned in the very same thread))

No. 939447

why do you sound like one of her orbiters? also her having a tiny passing interest in something doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things when she doesn't seem to get inspired by any other media, and doesn't seem to keep up with any more current stuff.

No. 939450

Samefag sperg, but being a (terrible) artist myself, I don't understand her. What delights me the most about art is being able to experiment and try new things, wanting to do fanart for stuff I liked as a tribute, trying different mediums even when I fucking suck at them, trying to draw anything other than a 3/4 character facing left and being terrible at everything (lmao) Holly seems to be using art to either wank or try to make money. It's either her OCs or shipping fanart or trying to flex about her nonexistent abilities (the Sketchbook Slam challenge) She doesn't seem to be having any fun with it and yeah, I know I'm projecting hard, sue me lol

Ummm your point being? She's seen/ read a single series that almost every person in her age group did, so? I wasn't saying that Holly has never read anything or never seen a single movie in her life.

No. 939457


Harry Potter doesn't count. It's normie tier. Like someone else said it was popular for her age group so of course she ended up liking it.

It's fairly obvious Holly has very a limited world view. She sticks to the same media and doesn't branch out. Yeah we have favorites but we still get older and get new favorite shows that end up being shows we can re-watch. No some ninth grade ninja show doesn't count either. Does she read novels? a novel series? does she watch movies to get inspired? does she have a favorite trilogy? No she doesn't. She thinks she is so much better than everyone else because she doesn't consume as much media as everyone else. She doesn't understand that the people who create are often the biggest consumers of media.

She prides herself on not playing video games when they can be just as influential. What does she think video games are, pacman still?

I think you summed up what she does in a day. Just add in a ton of self loathing. Girl does not look happy with herself and I suspect really hates who she is and has for a long time.

No. 939480

See I think Holly is stunted like she only enjoys media she started enjoying in middle school and just stuck to that stuff like Harry Potter and a handful of flavor of the month anime/cartoons. She still watches them in her free time but I highly doubt she's read Harry Potter and if your only storytelling experience is a handful of blockbuster movies from 10 years ago and dubbed anime/poorly written fanfiction is it really that shocking she's so damn bad at writing?? She just has no idea how bland her point of view really is…

No. 939561

Her rebranding to animation when her animation is so fucking stiff isn't a good move.

Also why is she so against drawing feminine men? She's constantly complaining about 'feminine' men or people making memes about drawing curvy men.

No. 939575

She likes em skinny gangly and likely underage

No. 939582

Well, she's got some perverse lust for Herschel and he's 'beefy.'

Also to any readers with curly hair, do you face as much oppression as Holly apparently has? She was complaining in her stream about how people have treated her because of her hair. At some point she says because of her hair type, people called her dirty even though we've seen her hands and her infamous unkempt fingernails.

No. 939593

She said this in her anatomy mistakes video she really hates when people draw men with hips or meaty thighs. I think it's funny she says that considering how Hershel is this weird skinny muscular that just looks like a skinny dude that's been like blown up in the arms but no actual clear muscles. Other than those silly arm lines lol.

No. 939618

Lol no. I have very curly hair and I’m often complimented on it because curly hair can look incredibly beautiful when well care for. For reference, you don’t even need to do anything hard to take care of it. I wash twice a week, use leave in conditioner and do a deep condition once a week. Put it in a ponytail for work. Not hard and her hair is looser than mine.

No. 939624

People call her grubby because she IS grubby, has nothing to do with her hair and she knows it. She walks around with a week's worth of dirt caked under her nails and snot crusted on her sleeves, and probably reeks of dirty cat litter. Has nothing to do with having curly hair - it's a dirty rat's nest like the rest of her, but it'd be like that if it was straight too.

No. 939636

Jesus Christ, does she not know anything about s curve and c curve?
Why does she think her animations are good when its obvious she knows nothing about the 12 principles

Like, at least learn the basics, then start practicing the harder more refined stuff, if you start out trying to do masterpieces without understanding the basics you'll learn at a much much much slower pace

No. 939640

does Hamilton count?
or is that also a relic from her middle school years?

she'd have to be a fan if she's tattooing a Hamilton quote on herself……..?

No. 939678

i'd be interested if she went the route of spicing up her comic with some simple animated panels. full animation? holly no.

No. 939683

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she has this really warped world view where she just has it so bad and everything is harder for her than anyone other.

just in that last stream she talked about how:
1) her mental illnesses are worse than general mental illnesses
2) her hair is so much more harder to handle and she's opressed because of it
3) her life in general is just so fucked and she needs to struggle so much more than other people

like how out of it is she? i get that she has no friends because she's an ass but jesus

No. 939711

i wonder if the reason she talks like that and also freely lies on streams is she's just talking to herself .. but when other people can hear. Like everyone has thoughts like what you listed but then you reign it in. You wouldn't say it in public because you know it's just 'your bullshit' but because her 'fans' are such like.. nothing, just anon avatars of retarded kids, like nobody she would ever regard as a person, she goes ahead and says it out loud

No. 939746

She 'liked' Hamilton only when it was trending for 0.2 seconds lmao, she just jumped on the bandwagon and promptly abandoned that animation she was working oh-so-hard on when it was no longer trendy; why the hell are some anons throwing around examples of things she likes? No one said she's never liked a single thing in her life, it's about regularly consuming all kinds of media, not just fixating on Flavor of the Week once in a while and then never caring again

No. 939775

Let's put it this way
>I really like Breaking Bad!
>Cool, what other shows do you like?
>Breaking Bad!
>Do you just rewatch BB over and over? Don't you like anything else?
>B-but Breaking Bad!! Oh, and I want to be a screenwriter!

No. 939780

She will occasionally like flavor of the month things like BNHA if there are gay ships.

No. 940255

The problem with holly is that the only media she really truly likes are stuff with yaoi porn. That's why all her stories and characters are so hollow- they are just rehashes of yaoi tropes. The sad part is that if holly were to actually work on her anatomy and learn basic english, there might have been a market for her yaoi rehashes.

No. 940279

She doesn't even have to learn how to spell; that's what an editor is for. I'm sure some of her more dedicated fans (she still has a few) would be willing to do that for free, but then Holly wouldn't be a tortured, hard-working one-man army anymore.

No. 940298


It probably has less to do with her tortured artist persona, and more to do with the fact she knows no one wants to work or deal with her for any substantial amount of time.

She had that flatter she was paying peanuts years ago; and ended up bad mouthing him in her videos and streams, till they left.

Nah, that only way to make serious adult friendships and connections is to meet them organically, when THEY approach YOU in a coffee shop to watch you draw. (lol, I wonder if she's still trying to meet people this way?)

No. 940312

Hell, I'd be willing to do it for her it it meant she'd be releasing less shit like her previous work in the world

No. 940325

Was the faltter drama discussed in one of the previous threads? I went through all of them a while ago but don't remember anything about him

No. 940340

I definitely remember a livestream, she was going through the flatter's done pages and redoing them because they weren't up to her standards, while slagging him off the entire time

No. 940345

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Yes, it was discussed. The old thread lists are a mess though so maybe you skipped it, but I remember it.


holly has been animating here and there for like 2 years and she still hasn't learned what a keyframe is lmao

No. 940347

wtf is that hair doing, i thought it would float in the wind but then it starts looking like it's gonna go in circles?

No. 940350

Maybe I'm missing it, but I don't get her new username /rebrand/gamer handle. Like, what does it even mean? Did she just throw two words together or is it a reference to something?

No. 940363

That hair is about to take off, like a helicopter!

Her gamer tag just reads "Knight of donuts" to me. Reminds me of the American donut place, 'Kripsy Kreme'

No. 940366


I am SUPER up to date on all drama Holly related. I found lolcow just a few weeks ago, when looking for any updates on the Russian hack. (I like to listen to Hollys' videos at work, and was missing them. It's like a soap opera for artists.)

I ended up binge reading ALL of the threads (mostly because it was more interesting than my current work load)

Funnily enough; I have learned a lot from Holly. Just… I've learned what NOT to do; both in business and in art theory.

No. 940399

It was like two years ago now so it was one of the first threads. Here's a breakdown based on my memories of the situation from back then lol.

Holly hires a flatter, he flats her pages, she goes on a rant about him in a video less than a week into hiring him complaining that he used the wrong colors to flat the page even though she admits it was because she never sent him the pallete she wanted, she then claims it's becuase he is color blind (he actually is partially colorblind but still picks better colors than her) she accidentally shows his name so the whole video looks like she's publically blasting a flatter she's paying less than minimum wage for something that was her fault to begin with. She only had him do like two pages before firing him and her audience mostly called her out for being an unreasonable jerk (except the occasional edgy child that made fun of the dude for being a color blind artist) and then Holly said she's just never going to work with anyone because she's bad with people.

The end.

No. 940411

She’s mentioned before that she got a handful of usernames saved up because she thought they would make great gamer tags and that someone would buy the usernames off of her. Lol! I’m assuming KispyKnight is one of those usernames.

No. 940682

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Some updates -
She has a tumblr blog for Harry Potter fanfic recs, haven't looked at any of them:

Will be going to San Japan as a regular convention goer.

No. 940683

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New twitter icon

No. 940689

My god, that's ugly

No. 940690

Its so sad to see her consistently draw her hair as straight when she always talks about how much she hates her real curly hair. Like the projection is too strong, she's in such deep self-hate

No. 940717

If she lowered the eyes a bit and made them bigger it'd be okay but she does this instead.

No. 940726

I see she’s regressing back into her long face drawing ways. Shame that she will never improve. She’s also incapable of drawing curly hair so that’s why it’s straight, I don’t doubt she loathes her hair too but I’m just sayin’.

No. 940745

it looks weird because
it doesn't have a nose.

No. 940781

pretty sure she drew herself ugly on purpose, she's been known to surprisingly not pretty herself up.

No. 940800

Hol up, I don't remember Holly having that many ear piercings… Unless she completely pierced the shit out of them with her new piercing kits and hasn't shown them off yet

No. 940807

Does she seriously think she looks like this?

No. 940808

if she tried to pierce cartilage with a gun, she's an absolute idiot. not sure if that's even possible.

No. 940811

wouldn't be nearly as bad if she lowered the eyes and ears, and gave herself a nose lmao. of all her shit I actually hate this one the least. ngl I kind of miss edits and redlining, Holly's work is shit but seeing the at least polished turds was kinda fun

No. 940823

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She just copy the style of some keychain in AliExpress, it's just herself in the Sirius style that she wanted but was sold out.

No. 940827

But those at least have fucking noses and more appealing proportions

No. 940887

I mean yeah but holly just blindly copied the style without realizing what made it 'work'

No. 940925

It's possible but it's way too traumatizing for the ear, it'll probably develop hypertrophic scarring or even a keloid (though actual keloids are very rare) and will have to be retired eventually because it just won't heal even months later

No. 940934

Redraw fag, but I edited Holly's icon a bit as an experiment. All I did was move the mouth up the face and add a nose, and it looks a lot less creepy. I mean, it's still shit, but in the words of Holly herself, "it's a nice, polished turd." I know this thread doesn't allow redraws, redlines, or edits, so I posted it in the designated redraw thread if anyone is curious: >>>/ot/243951

For the anon who kind of misses edits and redlining, this is for you.

No. 941040


it looks way better anon! Holly can't even copy something correctly lol Comparing Holly's original to yours, just really shows how bad hers is.

She should stop doing art. Yeah I know if she did that she wouldn't be as milkable but for her sanity she should stop.

How has she not gotten better in the last few years?

No. 941097

Seriously though, why the fuck is the face in her drawing so long? It looks busted instead of ~stylized ~ like she was probably going for

No. 941127

I actually disagree that she should stop doing art. I think anyone has potential and with enough hard work and practice she could actually be good, have a stable fan base and better mental health, but unfortunately that's never gonna happen any time soon. she really should disappear from social media, get some real therapy and get herself into community college or something. keep working on her comics and fine tuning them, until they're actually passable quality to post. also a total rebranding away from her name in a couple years is actually super smart

No. 941186

I wouldn't call it sympathy for Holly, but her situation is just extremely sad in hindsight. Rationalizing self-isolation is terrible. I can't imagine her feeling actually content with being alone all the time, but she's too stubborn and prideful to change anything.

No. 941207

I say she should stop because it's been years now and she still hasn't really improved! why should she even continue if she has had no growth. She doesn't want to listen to criticism, which if you want to do art she needs to do.

Sure anyone can be good but Holly has shown, and again it's been years, that she can't get better. If I wanna throw her a bit of a bone she has improved by maybe 10% since her first thread on here. That's being nice.

you say hard work but she doesn't want to put in hard work! It's easier for her to bitch about it than do it. She prides herself for not listening to her art teachers and doing her own thing even if it means she will continue to suck because "Fuck them! If I wanna draw gay shit, then I'm gonna fuckin draw it." She should just stop it. She doesn't seem to enjoy doing art. Only does it because "Hey, why stop now, what else am I gonna do?" She isn't even 30, she has tons of time to find something new.

How she dresses, the 2 am hair shaving, the tone of her voice, yeah you can tell she isn't happy with her life. She wants friends and she is delusional for thinking someone is gonna stop to sit with her to chat at a coffee shop while she is drawing. This is mean but if she was more attractive or maybe gave off a more friendly vibe she might get a quick "What are you drawing?" With her attitude now, would she even be able to keep a conversation with anyone before she scares them off with her teenage misanthropic view on life?

I speculate she never really had friends. maybe a classroom friend but not really a "Hey let's hang out after school!" "Party at scott's house, you coming?"

No. 941261

She doesn't have to stop doing art at all, BUT she should stop being delusional about making a career out of it. Drawing OCs and cheap comissions all day works if you want to earn some pocket money during high school, but an actual day job in the field is barely comparable, needs extreme discipline and constant grinding in fundamentals (anatomy, colour…). Not to mention she would need good socialising abilities and be incredibly reliable.
It's pretty obvious she has no idea how to make art a "real" job beyond deviantArt style comissions - her bad comic will never sell enough to make a living off of it. Not to mention she completely fucked her slim chance of getting money from YouTube within the last 2 years by destroying her fanbase and also thanks due to the Kickstarter fail, which hurt her reputation even more.

It's great if someone has art as a hobby, but making it a career is a very different story - she should keep the hobby and enjoy it like that, it would probably be better for her mental health too. She just needs to lose the "I'm too good to work in retail!" mentality, since she really has nothing else to offer, being a college-dropout who lives with her mother and all.
I wish she would start taking life seriously.

No. 941312


Normally, the longer an artist draws, the better they get, and if they're doing commissions, they naturally up the price of those commissions. Holly hasn't grown though, because she doesn't enjoy the process, or learning new things, or challenging herself beyond clickbaity titles, like "Slam challenge" or "100 days of comics, but the non-bitch way", in which she just turns on auto-pilot and doesn't actually learn anything besides the grind.

Also; she failed to understand what markets pay the most. It's too bad she is disgusted by furries, because that community lives off art and the demand is high if you can build up a good persona and clientele.

No. 941342

Yeah I guess I should have clarified. She can continue art as a hobby but as a career she needs to give it up.

Art would be good for her after a hard day or a mental break down but the fact she keeps trying to make this into a career is frustrating to watch lol She keeps trying different gimmicks, get rich quick kind of things for art and they never stick.

She is honestly lucky she even got a fanbase in the first place. The market for art is so over saturated that some people can barley get likes or a follow but Holly, who is a shit artist, gets lucky and gets 600 likes on a shit piece of art, and it's not even fan art. Or good youtubers with better art only ever gained a fraction of the followers Holly did. She really shot herself in the foot by wrecking it all and getting to full of herself. The tracing debacle, Kickstarter, unpleasant attitude.

She is lucky in a sense that she lives at home still and has other people in the house paying most of the bills. Sure she has a lot of debt but people have had worse debt and made it out okay. She needs to go back to school and start over. Find a full-time job somewhere, pay off debt while saving up. Whats she gonna do when she is 40 and her family sell the house, Holly can't afford the rent or utilities or even basic upkeep. She wants to buy a truck? The maintenance on those is expensive, She can't afford it.

That's rich she is disgusted by furries, she looks like she smells like a Wet Rat. With how she gets lucky gaining an audience despite her shit art and attitude she should just pander to furries. It's over saturated too but again she seems to have luck getting noticed.

No. 941346

She thinks furries and cosplayers are 'cringey' which is hilarious coming from such a social pariah. Her entire existence is cringey.

No. 941421


the lack of self awareness is astounding for her to proclaim the most basic mediocre take ever that "furries are cringy" meanwhile she somehow managed to tank her reputation even as an arrogant oc-obsessed fujoshit who's so desperate for a buck she tried to make a feet instagram.

No. 941426


LOL. To be fair, some good fucking laughs were had at the few posts she had on her foot account. Oh man, I laughed till I cried at those pictures.

No. 941460

She has the nastiest toes, and all I can remember is a long ass big toe toenail, yuk. It managed to get 30 followers right away though. She couldn't even follow through with a footsatagram account.

No. 941631


The descriptions are what got me. She wrote what she thought foot fetish people would like I guess? And like, the actions were bizarre. A single foot with a water hose on it. "Splish splash, I'm making a mess, playing in the mud, winky face."

I only wish there were more. And no; not for foot fetish reasons; just for comedy.

Also, didn't that one stalker of her streams get super mad she was posting her feet online?

No. 941777

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would anyone be surprised the mouth and eyes match up perfectly or

No. 941779

but that would cost like, $90? Piercing studios aren't cheap for someone who does it well.

No. 941829

That’s why I actually liked Holly’s sketchbooks, Im sick of the digital phase. I don’t think she traces nearly as much traditionally as in her digital stuff

No. 941831

she was just streaming but its been cut off and she might have deleted it
she was drawing the beatles and shitting about another mental disorder she knows absolutely nothing about again, i dont understand her interest in the beatles, she doesnt seem very interested in their music or work, the drawings dont resemble the actual people at all, but what they remind me of is the way people on deviantart would draw yaoi of them like 10 years ago and she already has admitted to shipping real people like in MCR so its not a reach to assume this is just another yaoi fanfiction outlet for her.
I dont think she seriously likes MCRs music very much either, for a fan, she never seems to talk about their music or career, she seems to exclusively talk about their appearance and fanfictions
people were talking about her not having actual hobbies or consuming anything, and i think thats sort it, even the little she does consume she only consumes for yaoi/shipping purposes and its really obvious in her art its kind of sad, she cant be interested in anything unless she can read it in a doujin

No. 941843

Nah, $90 is a ripoff, more like $50 (per piercing) But it's worth it to be safe.

No. 941855

never post here but i saw this picture scrolling past and it legit made me smile. i know it's not, but this really reminds me of is snapesnogger lol truly amazing.

good day to you, anons.

No. 941888

I would not be surprised if shipped Paul/John, lmao. There's a lot of weird ship art of them out there already.

No. 941917

She wants to do an animated beatles clip. Where the fuck did that come from?? Work on you god damn comic holly jfc

No. 941923

Jfc why. If is so simply why couldn't she just copy it. This bitch never learns.

No. 941932

When the hell did she get into The Beatles,its so sudden. >>941917 There’s a project where Beatles fans reanimate separate parts of some episode from the Beatles cartoon that was started by the wtfbeatlescartoon blog on tumblr.I believe Holly is intending to take part of it.

No. 941957

The Beatles? That's so random, I've never seen her mention it before. But I am looking forward to it lmao

Also it surprises me that she hasn't jumped on the JoJo dad yet. It's full of ~beefy boys~ and bishies, she would have a field day. I hope to see one day Giorno sucking on a backwards dick.

No. 941975

They're 'beefy' but they're also kind of effeminate in design and we all know how much Holly hates 'girly' men.

I want to see Jonathan with those lines she uses for muscles. He'd look like that one edit of Herschel where his head is fucking tiny.

No. 942092

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On the topic of the Beatles, Holly's art always reminded me of the beatles cartoon: inconsistent and dopey as fuck

No. 942122

I think that's the style she's trying to go for. She mentioned how much she loves the Beatles cartoon in the most recent stream.

No. 942136

You could’ve told me that she had drawn this and I absolutely would have believed you.

No. 942157

Is this where she gets that misshaped mouth she always draws?
There's an old sketchbook video of hers with fanart from the cartoon so I can believe it.

No. 942231

You people would rip me to shreds, but as a trans bi guy, I seriously think Holly might be an egg. The level of obsession Holly has over gay ships and gay men, going so far as to draw herself with them despite saying that those characters are nothing but gay, drawing only to create terrible porn material that seriously could only appeal to her to the point where it seems like she's living vicariously through them, the intense self hate- it all isn't something that 100% cis girls do. A good chunk of fujoshis do realize that they're trans and gay/bi later in life.

Holly really strikes me as someone who just doesn't really know what she wants in life. She needs to go on a break from social media for a while and truly do some self introspection, realize what she really wants, only then I can see her turning her life around.

Watching her become this actually made me change my mind about pursuing a art degree and a career in art.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

No. 942237

Das cool, please make sure you sage ur posts though……

No. 942240

Why would it make you change your mind about pursuing art as a career? Holly's trappings are all of her own creation. Literally just don't do what she's doing and you'll be a successful artist.
Don't really know what you were trying to get at in your response.

No. 942249


Just dumping my thoughts after following this thread for a while, I know it sounds incoherent. I'm sorry.

I am going to pursue something in art, watching Holly and other art cows like Becca just made me change my mind about making it my main gig and pursuing it in college with my parents' money. It made me see how getting formal education in art really doesn't matter. Also I'm not a particularly disciplined person, and I can really see myself becoming something like Holly or Becca if I truly just went off and became a self employed artist with my current state. So I'm going to get a non art degree and a non art job first, to sharpen my discipline and get a stable income first.

No. 942250

I 100% disagree Holly's secretly a transboi in waiting. thats also some hardcore tinfoiling and might I say projection? honestly if her fetish for gay men is a marker for being trans then I've got some serious issues with that part of the community. don't wanna infight, just stating.

No. 942283

Y'know I used to think that (Holly potentially being trans or nb) but in old streams Holly was pretty transphobic and I realized maybe not lol. She just seems to love men and hate women imo. Like her obsession with hating guys with hips if I remember correctly was her just being annoyed by trans hc of her fav male characters she seems to really dislike them. Like she puts trans people in her cringe culture box with cosplayers and furries.

No. 942284

Seconding this. Holly has never expressed discontent living as woman. She hates other women and calls them catty, shallow or petty but so do hordes of angsty women/teenagers and that’s usually because they have trouble making friends and instead of doing some self reflection or fixing their unpleasant personalities they blame it on those around them. On top of that, in yaoi there are many stories where one of the main characters is “straight, but so-and-so is the exception”. Holly more than likely just writes her character as gay but her self inserts are the exception.

No. 942285

disagree. if you think cis women don't obsess over gay men then you havent been in many anime/kpop/manga based communities.

No. 942298

Exactly why I don't think she's bi. I'm bi and I get that not everyone experiences attraction the same but I just can't see someone so obsessed with men and unreasonable about other women being attracted to them. She even said she isn't comfortable around pretty girls NOT because she is nervous around them but because she wants to be the only female in the group. If that ain't the straightest thing she could have said I'm just saying.

No. 942332