No. 286957
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>>286955Her art is so blocky and weird. I can't describe it but it's just…off.
No. 286976
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Oh my god finally, I called that she would go full /snow/ and there she is. Some people might argue there's no milk but she's getting milkier than some threads we have here with how she's (not) handling critique, shit talks other artists while being mediocre herself, constantly shits on the audience that's bringing her the bucks in her blogs, etc. The other thread in /ot/ was all discussion about her anyways.
Uploading her latest bs.
>>286961She probably got too much hate, she always whined about not wanting to look at the comments in that video because it was the one with the most heated comment section. That video is how I discovered her myself btw, it's infamous.
No. 286985
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>>286961>>286976The Calarts video is how i found out about her, too. She claims to have been accepted into Calarts but come in, this clearly is NOT Calarts-worthy art.
No. 286998
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>lmao stupid anime right?!! constantly mocking anime especially by using generic kids' manga as an example makes me a professional i swear!!
No. 287003
>>286998Ah yes. The first manga volume of a late 90's manga (and Takahashi's second work?).
Is this fool serious?
No. 287014
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>>286998If u ever feel bad about ur comic work look at this
>That paneling mess overall, can't tell them apart>That shota guy becoming progressively tiny>"your">Whatever the fuck that last panel is. Looks like there are three different sized dudes in the room No. 287028
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>>286962Aren't you glad she doesn't suffer of the same face syndrome herself as proven by pic related?
No. 287035
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>>286998>bitch actually thinking her ~comic~ is any better fucking lol someone's needs glasses or an urgent reality check.
No. 287036
>>287014HOLY FUCK. I thought it had two big panels, not four omg the structure is so baaad and it's so crowded lmao
>>287028The Jay Leno's chins, man. Lol her art is truly ugly, and she talks like she's Jim Lee or something…
No. 287039
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>>2870352/2
>blaming translation's lettering on the mangakak
No. 287085
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>>286998>amateurs comparing their comics to Go Nagai'skill me
No. 287108
>>287102It's by no means a great animatic, its pretty sparing as you've pointed out. Its not that shitty melting style tho fml.
Heathers the movie had great ideas but boy is it confusing/lacking at times. The climax of it feels so half assed, funny but half assed. The musical does so much better with it and building atmosphere and stakes to what they do (also J.D.'s insanity has more of a build up?).
What gets me is tumblr LOVES this musical, even though it's an edgefest and uses vocab they fucking hate, musicals always do seem to get a free pass.
Offtopic as fuck sorry, this is who H.C. is pandering too tho.
No. 287111
>>287035Honest question… isn't this a joke? This reads as someone taking the piss out of their own art like, "if you think that's bad, look at some of my old stuff"?
She can't honestly be posting this as though it'll blow people's minds how amazing it is…?
No. 287118
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>>287112It's allright anon, I'm kind of indifferent towards that movie and I'm really dumbfounded by all the Tumblr love towards it. I guess it's the GRRL POWER factor but you'd think they'd be
triggered by all the suicide, "fatphobia" and gay jokes in it
Anyway I can't even tell which way her lower body's supposed to face here
No. 287158
>>287155>tbh buying 4k worth of shit is probably Holly just swimming in debtThis.
Holly still lives at home with her mom and brother, her sister has moved out and is pregnant (according to her). She was complaining about her sister "being dumb and not having money" so Holly had to buy a bed for her, but if Holly is so smart and rich, then don't you think she would have moved out by now? What a hypocritical bitch.
No. 287177
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>>287094You know she's gonna jump on that Hamilton shit too
No. 287188
>>287184She's likely paying half of what she'd be paying for an apartment. That said, if everything adds up she totally would have enough to just move out.
Also, notice how many cats she has and the fact that the carpet is filthy. Now imagine how bad that house must stink.
No. 287191
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oh my god
No. 287196
>>287191God, I can just imagine her making a statement like
>B-but the noses are slightly different it's not the same face!!!111It's like she's drawing her own face over and over again
No. 287209
>>287191this is comically awful,
like i feel weirdly sorry for her in a "wow you poor, deluded idiot" sorta way. it's amazing how cocksure she is of this flaming garbage.
No. 287210
>>287191I wish I could spam that pic all over her YT. Unfortunately…
Also, whenever I see the bitch she drew on that sameface video thumbnail, I feel an urge to punch it. Even her characters are annoying as fuck.
>>287118It's more about the musical than the movie, really.
No. 287218
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>>287014this is axel ash levels of spelling fails on top of being unreadable and having 0 flow. absolutely 0 thought was put into the layout of anything she does, and covering panel breaks with speech bubbles is the stupidest choice in the world
>>287028glasses guy looks like someone took kamina and horizontally squished him (pic related)
No. 287237
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>>287233Makes me think of pic related, which is not a good thing. Punchable faces ahoy!
No. 287285
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>>287100>H.C seemed to concentrate on showing HEY LOOK BACKGROUNDS and absolutely none on the expressions, the strong focus of musicals. which is extra funny esp when you consider that the authors note in the script for heathers doubles down on the "focus on the emotions, not the extra details" thing and REALLY drills it home.
i genuinely don't understand it. would it kill you to do a little research holly? idk, if i was gonna create something just for the popularity points i'd at least get to know the material so i don't look like a total fucking idiot
No. 287287
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>>287285also:
>and camp (less, please!) No. 287412
>>287386What point is there to her no-bs attitude when she had EXTREMELY thin skin? It's like one of those playground bullies that would push everyone off the swings but would burst into tears the second someone called them a dummy.
I think she mentioned in a video somewhere that her aunt was her mom because her real mom was arrested and her aunt raised her or something? Does anyone know anything about that? I'll try and find the video when I get my laptop.
Also can someone please tell me how it's physically possible to not improve after 2 years of practice? I mean, you've GOT to get better SOMEHOW, right? Right?!
No. 287491
>>287412i agree, shes a whiny little bitch and thats why i dont bother looking at her twitter or anything, i just watch her videos and try to ignore what shes really like.
there's this artist on tumblr who's pretty well known in the south park fandom who has similar stunted development with her art (the art styles arent alike but theyre equally mediocre in my opinion), however she doesnt throw a hissy fit like holly does whenever someone gives her actual criticism. so it's not just holly, but… it's weird how some people don't improve, sometimes my art improves after as little as a day ?? and i know holly draws all the fucking time so how after all of that practise could she be so fucking stuck ????
No. 287499
>>287498>Add-on to this. I have a friend who sketches frequently and I've known her since 2008?
To this day her art style is exactly the same as it was back in 2008, same wonky anatomy and weird stiffness. Which is weird because my art has improved leaps and bounds since then because I can compare where I'm at now with then (because I drew our characters together back then) and I think it's a mix of lack of effort, reusing the same techniques (even if they're bad), stubborness, and not taking any foundational classes (i.e. life drawing etc.)
No. 287519
>>287517Go to the artist thread on
>>>/ot/183490, don't hijack the Holly thread with her.
No. 287825
>>287593True, but I kind of feel that's like comparing apples and oranges? Sure this thread points out how bad Holly's comic/cartoon style is despite art school etc, but in the end she is drawing cartoons and fan art.
Istebrak makes technical digital paintings and critiques other people's attempts at the same thing. Great to watch if you want to learn realism and rendering, but just really boring if you're into cartoons.
No. 287873
>>287825Istebrak actually has some helpful line art and character design critiques. Also, I used to think realism was boring and didn't apply to me because I'm into comics…but damn I really didn't know two shits about values, perspective, of anatomy. Moving away from comic tutorials can be helpful because I can't really think of any that actually hammer the fundamentals. Istebrak made me realize that I was a tard for not doing my value studies because they were "Too boring."
Unless I'm mistaken? Are there cartoonists I should be following? I'm honestly interested in listening to artist across mediums.
No. 288140
>>288132Like similar how so? Like blunt but shorter videos and least spacey? I feel like it's hard to find someone good at art, is blunt, and has charisma.
I used to videos like Holly's but I felt cheap and dirty doing them. I wonder if other artists feel that way? I also sanitized my opinions on other artists as not to make enemies in the industry.
No. 288245
>>287508She says she's trying to lose weight. Most of her blogs show her diets pretty shit tho (nachos/soda/coffee/ravioli etc. but she showed one salad with lots of dried fruit on top?) Her college is online and her job for now is yt, makes it hard to imagine she moves around enough to compensate.
It's pretty hard for artists to lose weight but I don't even know if it'd help that much. Does losing weight make people's face less lumpy?
No. 288332
>>288255another anon here, and thank you for this recommendation <3 this dude seem super chill and he also seems to know what he is doing.
Sage for not being about Holleno
No. 288364
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Its funny that Holly mentioned her style was exactly like Naruto b/c she was rlly into that show. Like she said she mastered it and everything. Last time I checked Naruto didn't have jacked up anatomy.
Back to her art style, she has less experience (1-2 yrs) w/ digital art so that explains why it always has that messy painterly no lineart look accept without actual rendering. When I first started digital my work had the same finish. But while I actually saw the muddiness as a serious gross flaw, she sees it as a legitimate style.
No. 288648
>>288627THAT took her awhile?
She complains that her digital speed paints get less views but in all honesty this thumbnail shows that she really isn't able to polish it up any more than this atm. She does it all on one layer as well, which would be fine if you were going to render it later, but all she does is leave it in a blocky mess.
No. 289045
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>>288982>36 minswew lad
the fucking gay comic she's making tho the characters are so ugly and dont even get me started on the chins and anatomy
No. 289057
>>288982Her inking
triggers me as well. But not only that, the way she bitches about doing thumbnails infuriated me. Doing thumbnail sketches help A TON when laying out comps for comics and illustrations… Which explain her piss poor compositions in her pages.
Who actually buys this crap anyway? She doesn't seem to enjoy making comics and bitches about whoever made the front page of that webcomic site, like she deserves a spotlight lol
No. 289081
>>289057Rn she's finishing her first comic book ever Purgatory and at this point she keeps repeating phrases like "I just want to get it over w/ so I can work on Paranormal Plague (her next comic idea)"
If she's so bored w/ it why doesn't she make it more interesting? I've been reading her comic and its pretty fucking boring. Two gay boys in a religious cult. They're in love and she expects that to tantalize you considering they're in a religious setting where gay stuff is a no-no. Thing is, there's not even anything that suggests anyone is going to know about the relationship. No tension of them possibly getting caught, so what's the point of this setup? wtf
Holly instead rests all of the drama and character development on the MC being molested by an old guy.
No. 289086
>When you've been following Holly for some time>Wondering why she keeps on talking about how to write gay characters shit over and over when her comic's main pairing is clearly het>That shocking realization that no, that black haired chick is actually a dude and you think you're going blind.>That moment you realize that no, she's just that bad at drawing.I almost want to read her comic to see if she's at least done the narrative/writing right, or the characters are cool. Almost. The plot sounds bland af though.
>>289045wtf is going on. What am I looking at. Why is half his dick brown. Why does the bottom (?) look like he's in pain in the top panel. None of this makes sense to me.
No. 289091
>>288657She said she wanted to try to get into storyboarding now? which is why she made the Heathers thing.
>>289034Holly shits on many artists behind their back or in her streams, so it's hard to find, but then tries to act nicer and backpedal in front of them. She'd get a bunch of shit from fans of the other artists, specially since they cross over channels sometimes.
Her streams are something else, constant burping, slurping saliva, and when her brother interrupts the stream it gets really fucked up. One time she was arguing with him while her friends were on skype shitting on him too and the entire audience didn't know what the fuck to do with themselves. It's really uncomfortable, starts around the 1:37 mark and at 1:50 but it kept going for the whole stream everytime he'd show up.
Her edgy underage friend is really fucking annoying, she only made shit worse "don't be a bitch Dylan" "don't be a cunt" how do you say this shit about some guy you've never seen?
No. 289256
>>289247Oh godly anon, how do you even manage all three at once? How did you even start? I'm asking because I'm really interested in starting a comic on my own, so…
(And I see people like Holly and I think to myself, if this bitch got 100k subs on youtube, maybe I can gain an audience too.)
But damn anon, where and how did you get the motivation to keep on trucking for FOUR years before you got an audience?
sage for derailing.
No. 289259
>>289091 She sounds like a miserable bitch. You're trying to stream and seem somewhat credible, yet you're going to bitch at your viewers and then make everyone uncomfortable with your hatred for your brother?
Anyone else get a little creeped out when she started muttering obscenities after his second appearance?
No. 289266
>>289256>>289259Oh god, I was so uncomfortable when she started muttering to herself. So unprofessional.
And I don't know, anon, I just really love art!
If it made me as miserable as Holly I probably would have quit after a month. I realized early on into my first comic that I had my head up my ass and people didn't owe me shit.
I give myself a pretty rigid schedule and do huge buffers. Honestly, I'm nothing special. I work a graphic design job so I'm not exactly drained after a day of work. I sort of just add a new project anytime I'm not feeling challenged.
Also to not derail, have another
triggering video of Holly using vinyl on her silk screens because she can't understand emulsion. UGH. Who lets you have nice things?
No. 289319
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>>289091this was so cringe holy shit
ugh her friends are just as horrible and that muttering was just.. ugh
No. 289432
>>289091The way she swore under her breath like that… Holy shit, I wouldn't be surprised if she starts hearing voices and shit. Fucking scary.
ALSO, who the hell holds a sword like that? What kind of swing (with the sword) is Jack doing? How is this- fuck whatever, I'm done being
triggered by this psycho.
No. 289453
>>289266>>289319>>289432guys, guys, maybe she's just stuck in her chuunibyou phase and thinks swearing is cool and edgy!
No really, I think she thinks that swearing like that will add to her whole "tough gal" facade and make her look cooler to her preteen followers. Considering what I've seen so far and her general immature, childish mentality, I wouldn't put it past her.
No. 289465
>>289462I know! I felt so bad for her brother too. I understand not everyone is best friends with their siblings, but swearing at them, calling them worthless, and mocking them with your internet friends (who don't even know him!) is fucking awful.
Anyway, I'm not certain, but I assume her brother is around 18-20. In her stream, she mentioned that all he does is smoke weed, so he's probably in his teens at least. She also complained about him being in the house and how he should move out already, which is fucking rich coming from her.
No. 289516
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>>289465She said at around 1:40:00 that he's 25. I don't get why she hates him so much and went on mumbling for hours about him just going to ask her a question. She is a mega brat and all that unnecessary swearing is super cringe-worthy. Maybe she should smoke some weed with him and chill out.
No. 289526
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>>289091holy shit that muttering under her breath, calling him a stupid motherfucker after he asks a question like she's about to blow a gasket over livestream.. yikes. clearly it's a race to the bottom in this family
No. 289558
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>>288982Made it to 20:55 and the only thing that can be said about her is that she's a salty cunt. Even more so than some of the users here. The way she goes on and on about "fuckin fuck this and fuckn fuck that" is just so annoying and embarrassing as well.
Her comic art and anatomy is horrid, especially with her ego/attitude. Some of the things in her store aren't too bad, but when it comes to her comics is any quality goes down somehow? Also she doesn't clean her gross nails for the product pictures (pic related).
>>289091She treats her friend(s) and viewers/ potential customers like garbage and she has the gall to spew about how to get people to buy your things? Wow.
Not sure if this will be a big post, but damn, I've only just been introduced to her and i already dislike her eugh
No. 289589
>>289579Off topic I know.
Do you mind explaining further on how her drawings lack structure and depth?
Learning things like that is neat.
No. 289596
>>289589seconded
it's critique though, right? So not all THAT off topic…
No. 289599
>>289589Not same anon but if you ever watch her sketch you can see that she doesn't plan or map anything out. All her characters end op looking off model and wonky. Like if you look at them from panel to panel they do not look they same.
She's curbs this a bit by having "a style" meaning she's made up a bunch of symbols that read as different things. It's why she only has a handful of expressions and poses. Just look at her pose book. She obsessed with making symbols and looking at models as a way to cheat at art and not have an actual understanding of the underlying structure as a model.
Depth, I'm not sure. It could be her flat and lazy perspective work of her lazy attempts with values, colour, and lighting. Anything she does is a shortcut. Just look at her how to draws, it's all just "cheats".
In addition she's awful at design work. I don't at least a dozen designs of something before actually putting it in an illustration let alone a comic book. She HATES planning and calls people who edit scripts "childish."
No. 289636
>>289599If she edited scripts, she wouldn't have people sending her corrections on her comic pages.
I'm working on a comic and character consistency throughout the pages makes me nervous.
No. 289675
>>289589Same anon here.
From the comic pages posted here, the line weight and variation is mostly uniform. Typically, linework in the foreground should be thicker than in the background. Not to mention that she is inconsistent with perspective like in the last panel
>>287014, where the floorboards should be receding into a single vanishing point.
You can all tell by the bad anatomy and the melting faces that there is no sense of structure. For example, look at the right arm on this character
>>286985. The fingers shouldn't be wrapping around the pole like that. Also the figures are very stiff, just not enough exaggeration and expression for cartoons.
She does a lot of symbol drawing like one of the previous anon said. The eyes and mouths are like stickers.
Her designs are all the same, same kind of body, same hands, same faces, like a lesser johannathemad. Simply put, everything lacks variation and experimentation.
She spends a lot of time drawing, but creating art requires a lot of planning and thinking, I'd say like at least 60% research and idea development. She doesn't do that. Time and effort mean nothing, only the results. Unfortunately like many artists, she skipped a bunch of steps when she should be going back and learning fundamental skills. She's not advanced enough to be attempting the things she's doing because she's just misleading beginning artists with her rants and 'tips'.
>>289593In the Calarts video, she claims that she was accepted but chose not to go. Not sure if anyone can back up that claim?
No. 289721
I used to hang around artist circles for years and I saw a lot of different artist types and went through plenty of phases myself, but ultimately chose a different career path, partly because of the awful people like Holly in the artist scene. To me Holly is one of those artist types that has a huge superiority complex and absolutely hates being challenged, but at the same time she acknowledges that she's not reaching the bar even high enough to be considered mediocre. Which is why she is so defensive about criticism and facing her flaws. She reacts so aggressively to thumbnailing and other means of editing/planning because it would make her think about all the things she's doing wrong and she clearly doesn't want that, even if it would mean improving. To her, improving seems to be scary for the reason I stated, it would make her face her flaws.
She also thrives on putting other people and ideals down because to her, offensive is the best defense. If she's already attacking something she (in her mind at least) puts herself in the position of an authority figure. I'm guessing all the bullshit about not being able to work because "it's taking away from her art, boo" is related to her superiority complex, she thinks she's entitled to live out her non-profit comic dreams and not sink to the level of people working part-time at fast food chains and grocery stores.
Ergo, I think it's extremely important to pull bitches like this off their high horse because as you've noticed her followers are very young and impressionable. If they'll assume this toxic mindset they'll end up like her and spread it even further.
>>289086>That shocking realization that no, that black haired chick is actually a dude and you think you're going blind.Yyyeaaahh, I think being a blatant trap fetishist kind of disregards her rants about writing believable gay characters.
>>289558And once again the characters look extremely wonky and at the same time they share an almost identical face. And once again the hands look like claws. She repeats the same mistakes over and over again. And holy shit I thought anons were exaggerating her nails but fuck that's gross.
>>289675Symbol drawing works when you're figuring out measurements and practicing poses but Holly's characters look like she literally just inked over the symbols without giving them depth or curves. I'm seconding the anon who said she needs to do more life drawing because she seems to have zero sense of composition. The reason her poses look so awkward and stiff is because no normal people move like clothing store mannequins. It's not enough to know basic anatomy, you have to have some sort of sense about real-life limb/body movement. That Heathers animatic she made pretty much revealed how she has no idea how people move.
And I guess the lack of experimentation and variation comes from the superiority complex I talked about earlier. She's dug herself a nice little hole to stay in and she's not coming out.
No. 289726
>>289675Lmao I bet she's lying. This chick's sketchbook is MILES better than anything Holly could ever produce and she got rejected.
>>289714She has a thread on /pt. The thumbnail is of a fat chick on a blue wig and black clothing. Also, to sage you gotta write "sage" on the email field.
No. 289731
>>289721
>That Heathers animatic she made pretty much revealed how she has no idea how people move. Rich b/c in one of her videos she rants about her old art school for giving more scholarships/opportunities to animation students than illustrators and has the gall to say animation is easy when she's only managed to shit out a couple gross gifs and one animatic.
She herself wanted to study animation but ultimately chickened out b/c of competition and the fact Disney switched over to 3D stuff.
No. 289743
>>289558You'd think she's make some effort for the cover but the title isn't even centered and there's 3 hands showing for 2 characters and they look exactly the same.
There's simply no weight to them, it doesn't even look like they're interacting together. I'm guessing they're lovers but the shorter one seems to be pushing the other's hand away gently.
It's crazy how little effort she puts into her stuff. She could ask two people to hold a pose to at least have a reference, how hard is that?
No. 289745
>>289247She's nicer to those cows than she's ever been to her viewers lmfao her voice completely changes. She relates, being a lolcow herself
>>289194What bothers me the most is that she wants to rush Purgatory only because she likes her new Paranormal Plague OCs better, even if the story is way less developed. It's like she made Purgatory when she was in this strong fujoshi kick and now she's over it and keeps bitching about it because she wants to draw her new so manly OC. Not shitting, Paranormal Plague has three main characters but she keeps obsessing and developing pretty much only the guy and she even made a self insert marysue to be his girlfriend. And this is what she wants to drop Purgatory for.
>"Cell-shading is the laziest shit ever">Cuts corners mid way in her own comicShe's not going to color Paranormal Plague painting it like that. She would take forever, and the coloring's still ugly. I thought she wanted the comic to be very 80s and bold… of course she wouldn't research for her color scheme.
No. 289748
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>>289745Paranormal plague's concept is basically animorphs and yet shes even worse at drawing animals than humans.
No. 289750
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>>289558This guys face tho, I can't believe she has the audacity to complain and put down other artists with her stupid friends when her art looks like this
>that Dorito chin>weird eye No. 289776
>>289753
>Is it seriously about people who turn into animals or…?Well she hasn't started it yet but she has explained in a video the concept being a group of college students who investigate mysterious activities/fight crime in a city where some people randomly have the ability to shape shift into animals b/c of a 'plague' hence the name 'paranormal plague'
Actually sounds kind of cool, if only she had the technical ability to illustrate it well and wasn't a obnoxious person
>I kinda want to send her the link to this pageNah, its way more fun and spontaneous for ppl to discover their dedicated hate threads when googling themselves and then freak out publicly
No. 289837
>>289776Agreed on the link thing.
But doesn't 'plague' signify something like, negative? Like the bubonic plague or something?
I really don't think Holly has the necessary writing skills to pull the plot off, esp. when she's only developed her bishe mc. I tried writing a complex story by only developing the characters and six years later I'm still no where and I highly doubt Holly has the perseverance.
Looking forward to seeing this comic flop.
>>289826Fucking kek'd at the video anon. Thanks for the share.
No. 289922
>>289908At first glance I liked her backgrounds, but honestly they're flat and perspective is all over the place.
>>289863Honestly, yes. This audience is one of the easiest to pander to. Though, if you really want to make bank and sell lots, pander to furry fandom. Fujoshit will get you a bunch of preteen girls with no money. You'd be surprised how many rich furries there are willing to spend ludicrous amounts (industry rates) on their fursonas. Holly isn't even selling out in the right way. Yeesh learn to shill better.
In other words, Fujos beg for discounts while furries shower you with tips.
(Also if you actually draw adult gay men instead of lady boys you can get a chunk more change from a smaller but richer audience).
Related video: Holly getting screwed over by the shitty audience while simultaneously being the worst at basic art business practices.
No. 290004
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Manga studio didn't immediately fix all her problems?! I'm so shocked.
Why does she think buying art supplies will fix all her problems? She talks about her brother's 'get rich quick schemes' when she's constantly buying stuff like it'll actually make a difference to her art quality.
No. 290161
>>290051right? she's always mentioning that she's trying to lose weight
I guess she probably gave up
No. 290269
>>289750i genuinely thought at first that you squished the face like in
>>287218 but then i scrolled up and fucking loled
>>289748i think it was in the thread in /ot that i said that all her faces look like the halfway point on an animorphs cover anyway so, appropriate?
>>289922the pic the thumbnail of this vid is from has to be the absolute shittiest thing she's ever put out. that character's fucking hair makes me want to punch everything in a four foot radius every time i see it
No. 290274
>>290269 that characters hair
triggers me so much, i always think all the characters she draws look like they are wearing a helmet but that one is just so fucking ridiculous
No. 290516
>>290475like people who buy expensive cameras and suddenly now they are a ~photographer~
sage that just pisses me off so much lol
No. 290535
>>290450Does anyone know what she talking about with the digital line quality? Is she seriously zoomed in and tying to perfect her lines?
Like I'm
triggered by how she's colouring and the fact she's got only 5 layers. But does she realize if she uses a large canvas and doesn't zoom in 1000x she'll get smoother lines? It's like that cintiq is the same size as your sketchbooks. It shouldn't be a hard transition.
But oh wait, fuck learning a new thing. Holly is a prodigy genius.
No. 290612
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Not sure if anyone here watches the Pizza Party Podcast but on the most recent episode I noticed our dear art goddess Holly commented to talk about how Butch Hartman's (Creator of Fairly Odd Parents) coloring is atrocious. I don't like a lot of things about his style either but I found this pretty rich coming from her. Especially the "other artist in the same age range" part since practically any artist in college (Hell, even high school) has more skill than her
No. 290621
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>>290612Holly just belongs in the trash at this point
No. 290754
>>290743shes good at copying- like if you look at her figure studies for school, she can copy pretty good. and she has an ok grasp of color. but when she draws without looking at a model she just cannot. plus, either she looks in a mirror too much for facial reference or just is too comfortable in that style, because her faces/expression are horrifying.
also her story telling is atrocious, plus her general attitude is just aggravating. she also a problem saying she hates a certain thing then in the next second, doing that exact thing. its tiresome
No. 291370
>>290450this is pissing me off so much. "I wanted this tablet so I could colour faster. I'm not good with my Intuous because I don't use it enough" holy shit this bitch just wasted like a thousand bucks on something she'll probably barely use when she already has a functional tablet and her reasoning is "I'm too fucking lazy to just learn how to use my intuous"
kill me
No. 291656
>>291644from her subscriber count probably, she thinks 100k subs = good at art
it doesn't help that her fans pretty much enable her and her bad attitude
No. 291674
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>>291660Not even surprised at this point
No. 291844
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>>291835she got the mouth right at least
No. 291859
>>291660I use my cheap Chinese knockoff tablet as a coaster sometimes but a fucking Cintiq?!
>>291634A shit ton of professional mangaka composite and arrange panels digitally. Literally what is she saying.
I've never paid attention to the artist YT scene so I've never heard of this person, but my body is 70% salt right now.
No. 291873
>>291866Huion H610 Pro. I had Wacom's Intuos 3 and Intuos Pro (basically the Intuos 4), both medium-sized models, prior and the Huion is extremely comparable in everything but hardware (it feels cheaper, unsurprisingly). The drivers are extremely stable and have never crashed on me, however.
Here's a thorough review of my model:
>http://frenden.com/post/87110791272/huion-h610-pro-h610-k58-graphics-tablet-reviewI dunno how familiar you are with digital drawing, but if you want to size up/splurge, there's also a massive tablet also by Huion (the Giano) that I heard really great things about.
No. 291875
>>291866Not that anon but I'm selling my 13HD in favor of a Huion h610 Pro (not a display tablet). I line with SAI and it personally gives a me a better experience without the parallax. The parallax on small cintiqs is ridiculous imo but I know many are fine with it.
Plus I like the rougher textured surface than the intouses I've owned
>>291873oh shit lol
No. 291888
>>291875Oh lol, I'm the Huion anon you're replying to! We're in opposite situations. I was looking to get a Cintiq (specifically a 13HD!) because while I love sketching and painting on my Huion, doing clean lineart feels really unintuitive on a non-display tablet. If the parallax is that bad, I think I'll have to wait for the newer gen of Cintiqs to get devalued, then.
Apparently there's a newer model of the H610, fyi to you two:
http://www.parkablogs.com/content/review-new-huion-1060plus-graphics-tablet-built-8gb-memory No. 291916
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No. 291918
>>291916they're not wrong but
here we go lol
No. 291925
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for some reason this panel makes me die laughing every time. this entire thing is a joke
No. 291959
>>291916I wonder if Holly will have another twitter tantrum
>>291925kek even her own characters don't know what's going on
No. 292039
>>291964Her writing videos are a gold mine of bad advice (then again which one of her videos isn't?).
Purgatory looks like a lot of comics I like, but only at a glance. The edgy black and white gay comic about occult shit. I find they always get confusing and their creators tend to get their head up their ass with symbolism and such. I know one creator that confused their audience so much at the end of their comic they had to summarize the whole plot to make it comprehensible.
No. 292043
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"Don't brag about how much time and effort you put in. Brag about how rushed your project was! :D Then no one can critique you because 'lol, i didn't even care anyways.'"
No. 292098
>>292043God. Her attitude reminds me of 12 year old I'm so dark and hate the world me. Art skills were probably on the same level too. lol.
Also "how long did that take you?" Is probably the most common question I get.
No. 292267
>>292043Does she not see her constant hypocrisy and negative attitude? Why does she have to be so fucking mean spirited and whiny all the time to begin with? And why do people find this admirable?
>>292241Wow, if she gave lip like that to her art teachers it's no wonder she dropped out of art school. She clearly can't handle criticism at all even if it would help her improve.
No. 292289
>>292249>>292249I like how she didnt even understand their comment.
They said if holly feels like she cant have opinions due to critique thats on her and she doesnt have a spine for her own opinions on things.
Like no where in the comment did they say that holly isnt allowed to have opinions or she cant teach people things because shes garbage or anything like that.
so i have no fucking idea where she even got that.
it seems like she just ranted on that person and accidentally blamed them for her insecurities
No. 292296
>>292236The ass kissing in the comments is wild, I don't know how people can stand her anymore. She's getting cuntier by the day, and a bigger lolcow with every new bitchy video she uploads, is she self aware at all?
She keeps complaining about 12 year olds but look at the comments, literally every single one of her fans is 13. And that's because her nasty mean attitude only appeals to edgy preteens. She's as immature as her audience.
No. 292303
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>>292279>a fan commented how, she's being persecuted like Onisionjfc
No. 292310
File: 1492294340424.png (1.05 MB, 1094x1252, Screen Shot 2017-04-15 at 6.09…)
Um….You've made the background lines thinner and your characters not longer express or look their age. Good job???
No. 292351
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Holly sure is busy messing things up today, huh? She's decided to make her comic red now.
No. 292366
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>>292345>>292303She deleted the comments holy fuck
No. 292375
>>292310The fucking doorknob panel is in this. I'll never get over it.
>>292366God she's such a child. No wonder why so many can't catch her livestreams, they're all at school.
No. 292381
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>>292366she deleted these tweets too
No. 292395
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>>292351I can't get over her character's long ass faces and apparent lack of skulls.
No. 292422
>>292310>>292351
>speech bubbles over the gaps between panels>sometimes obscuring them completelyTHIS IS WHY YOUR COMICS ARE UNREADABLE REEEEEEEEEEE
seriously tho why does she bother giving a character glasses when she isn't going to bother to draw the damn lines straight
>>292395 much less figure out how they look from an angle. looks like a weird superhero mask or something on top of making his expressions so hard to read from a distance.
No. 292467
>>292310I can't even tell which is the newest and which is the oldest??
Like the upper one has nicer people but the lower one is more readable so I don't know which one is supposed to be the improvement??
No. 292516
>>292467I started reading her comic awhile ago and I'm sad to see she change the characters so much, they were actually cute in the beginning
and she thinks its an improvement?? tf
No. 292533
>>292516So the lower one is the "better" version?
lmao at the perspective
No. 292599
>>292351Showed this to my colourblind friend, she can no long see the comic lol.
I'm jealous now, because it's giving me a migraine.
No. 292703
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I also just realized that she's basically living in just as much filth as Ash. And is also living with her parents.
No. 292726
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>>292718>the only thing she could say was her art was 'better.' What the fuck Holly? This comic has a million layers more depth and energy than her shitty work. Why is she always so ridiculously hateful towards other artists? Does she think badmouthing others automatically makes her more talented than they are?
No. 292729
>>292718>the only thing she could say was her art was 'better.'In what video did she do this?
Holy shit, Holly has some nerve. This comic is miles better than that pile of shit she calls Purgatory.
No. 292738
>>292718Oh, gross. Yuko seems like an absolute sweetheart, I used to read her slice-of-life webcomic during my bus rides home in high school. Holly's egotism just baffles the utter hell out of me. I guess I'd…
kind of get it if she had the talent to back up how nasty and boastful she is (not that it'd be anymore justifiable), but she's just so hilarious awful. I just don't get it. What even makes a person this dense and bitter?
No. 292762
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I think its just watching her insist on doing things the hard way when she could be using her time more efficiently, like say getting her comic done quicker like she wanted or actually improving her anatomy and other glaringly obvious flaws,
that makes me frustrated as an observer
No. 292765
>>292729The video linked in
>>287116 is where she said it, I think.
No. 292778
>>292765I couldnt find it but I remember she went to like, Borders or some shit and was like, this is so basic my art is way better. I almost broke a window because Yuko is one of my art idols. the entire thing is ridiculous.
I really believe she thinks if she buys fancy supplies she'll become better, when no she does not.
No. 292860
>>292619Whoa, learned something new today. Asked her about it, I guess she has something else with her eyes apparently? Like she has trouble with high contrast particularly red on white. She always has to get the teachers to not use red on her papers or on the whiteboard. She said she tells everyone colourblind because it's quicker.
Either way the comic is now an impossible nonsense to her (though I guess it was before too).
No. 292875
>>292726This is amazing compared to her shit. Just look at how much more interesting these 2 pages alone are. And it doesn't hurt my eyes.
fuck
No. 292886
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>>292871Wtf is she even talking about. Those expressions are an awesome example of subtle yet simple stylized art. Holly, you really aren't in a position to comment on art…I just…you don't understand the most basic shit. How are you confused about these expressions? I haven't even read this and I can feel the emotions and intent.
(assuming I got the right artist here, lol)
No. 292890
>>292867At the beginning I thought she was just rude, but she is so delusional. Her art needs so much improvement and she could just put what she thinks is true in positive words, like 'hey, I think my drawings are just as good as this amazing book, let's submit it somewhere' instead of saying it's shit.
Did she ever hear back from any of the publishers? Also, kek at the double page spread she's so proud of at 14.25, you could never print this because the dude is right in the middle.
>>292860Ah, makes sense! But as you said, she's not missing out (in this case).
>>292886Yeah, I don't get why she said that. Her expressions all look the same.
No. 292972
>>292970I wish she went to school.
It could either help her or just provide some more hilarious delusional raging.
No. 293119
>>288982Her inking is trash for sure but thats such a glaringly obvious thing compared to how shes making her mechanical pencils commit suicide with each line she draws. YOURE NOT SUPPOSED TO HEAR YOUR PENCIL SCREECH WITH EVERY LINE YOU MAKE. She handles it like a child and its really disturbing that shes been to / is in school yet cant sketch without most likely harming both the paper and her pencil. Not to mention
'Fucking' 'fucking' 'FucKING' 'fucken' 'fuggin' 'fuckinn'
Even her cursing vocabulary is as bland as her comic and art style.
No. 293121
>>293119I'm sorry anon I have very little knowledge in art, but what does it mean for your pencil to screech and why is that bad (besides potentially ruining the pencil?)
I mean, aren't some cheap pencils just build really badly? (but then again, I highly doubt Holly would buy anything cheap with the way she splurges on everything. what is saving money.)
Not defending just genuinely curious.
sage for OT
No. 293128
>>293121It means shes very heavy handed when she draws. While shes sketching you hear how awful and loud the led is when it hits the paper and while it can be a number of things, you also see how dark her pencil lines are and no matter what type of led you use, if theyre that dark while sketching from start to finish, its ultimately from being heavy handed, this also means you damage paper (but tbh thats just nit picky bullshit and just hurts her when shes trying to erase shit and/or scan later)
its just very juvenile and means she also has a hard grip on her mechanical pencil which hurts your wrist / strains fingers etc which again isnt good.
Basically its just amazing that even her sketching is sub par, horrific and excuted in the dumbest and most childish of ways.
Also dont worry I understand wanting to know why thats an issue, its aiight anon dear
No. 293136
>>287177Please no leave musicals alone already Holly
>>289247>Meanwhile she's been working on this thing 2 years? and wants to give up? Does she realize you can work on multiple comics?This is kinda funny, she has multiple videos in which she talks about she can/tries to work on multiple projects at once.
(For reference, one of them is the one I just embedded and she starts talking about that 5 minutes in)
No. 293152
>>293136she talks about how she shouldnt work on one thing forever, and not have a focus on one thing…
But shouldn't it be good to atleast have one project be your "thing" while having other projects at the same time?
She sounds like such a generalist with no focus.
It honestly seems like she has no actual interest? Everything she does is just to get paid or whats popular she literally has nothing i would say is original or "her"
(not counting the bad art/art style)
She really needs to find something she actually likes and try to get better at that thing
No. 293154
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>>293121You can see what it looks like when she tries to erase things here. It doesn't really work, gets streaky and wrinkles the paper. This way, she couldn't redraw things that often without ripping the paper/ the structure breaks and you're not able to draw that well on it anymore.
No. 293155
>>293154is anyone else bothered by the mechanical pencil she chooses to draw with?
Whenever i see a artist use this cheap pencil they are ALWAYS heavy handed
No. 293159
>>293136"You can't just have 1 thing and expect it to sell."
Bitch, you just jealous that I can sell one graphic novel and make beyond cost at a convention. That's the power of QUALITY over quantity.
I've really gotten rid of clutter at my con tables and focus marketing efforts on my newest graphic novel these days. Multiple skews isn't inherently better, it can confuse and overwhelm and makes it clear you chase gimmicks and trends rather than having your own space with staying power.
No. 293171
>>293154She's young so I don't think she knows much about comics. If she finds this thread I suggest she doesn't cheap out with her paper. Thick, multi media paper with a smooth texture and literally says "erases easily" should solve her erasing issues.
Also she can draw her comic in a blue pencil first and do the final lines with a dark pencil. A blue pencil (Light blues) won't show well when scanning and whatever does show can be cleaned up digitally for a completely smooth look.
Heck, some programs even cleans up dust for you.
No. 293188
>>293154Her erasing really
triggers me…
No. 293200
>>293188Ha! That's nothing, go to 8:00 of this video. And then remember she inks her comic on a light table.
(She's stopped doing this nowadays, but she still used to do this)
No. 293309
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>>293200You're right, this is worse! Is she actually filling in the black with more pencil??? And then she complains constantly about how long it takes to finish a page when she's doing something so unnecessary! Most artists mark black areas with "x".
Also, I don't know about you guys but her comment on this person's post irritated me.
No. 293320
>>293264It's just unnecessary and a waste of pencil lead
she could simply put a small note/or an "X" where it's supposed to be all black but instead she just fills it in with a shitton of pencil/that she's gonna go over anyway with ink
No. 293492
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>>293464that's what I was thinking, She even changed her tumblr and instagram name
Funny, her and the Holly gang are always talking shit and act tough but once confronted or called out
they run or make an 8 minute video on why you're wrong
On another note maybe the reason Holly is so bitter is because she doesn't have any irl friends. Or maybe because she's so bitter and abrasive, it's difficult for her to make some. She's a mystery
No. 293504
>>293492she is also OBSESSED with mentioning how theyre young teens and Simon gets molested by an older man. I remember my skin crawling when she was cackling over 'the good part coming up' with Simon being molested.
She is seriously deranged. It's also super fucking rude that she's so pro LGBT but she's willing to change a character just to get published. honestly I just think Holly is a fame hungry cunt
No. 293621
>>292871is she really criticizing Scott McCloud….Scott fucking McCloud…the successful comic artist who's written several comics and won awards for his work? the nerve she has.
if someone had used the same exact critique against her work she'd lose it
No. 294042
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>when ur shoulder is dislocated and your forearm cut in half
She surely makes me feel better about my art.
No. 294076
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lol i hope she does.
No. 294085
>>293119tbh I am super light handed and when I am using textured it makes the sound no matter what, unless it's like super super invisible thin light line. Bot trying to defend her or anything because yeah, as shown in
>>293154 her paper is smudge hell.
Just saying so some people don't get insecure or whatever, you can make sounds when drawing.
Sage for bullshit.
No. 294087
>>294042I used to feel so self-conscious about my anatomy because that's not my strong suit. I got so self conscious because of her videos bashing bad anatomy, and now I see this. I don't feel so bad about mine anymore! At least I'm trying to better my anatomy and can admit that I'm not the best at it.
Sage for rant
No. 294092
>>294085textured paper*
sage again for samefagging
No. 294181
>>294042is bottom guy freaking out because one of his hands seems to only have 3 fingers on it? why is he throwing the live long and prosper gesture like a gang sign?
i guess top guy's face of pain is because his face is sliding off and it's taking his shoulder with it
No. 294233
>>294181Holy shit anon, I didn't even notice both shitty hands on Hamilton (The bottom guy) lmao
>>294087Glad to see Holly is making us all feel better about ourselves.
No. 294235
File: 1492562142035.jpg (704.08 KB, 458x2400, highlights.jpg)
Personal favourite highlights from the update today.
No. 294243
>>294235Holy fuck, his mumps on the third pannel.
Also, it does looks like she's kinda fetishing abuse with some of those lines, but I may be wrong…
No. 294256
i looked thru her other yaoi one
https://tapas.io/episode/486029that arm god damn
No. 294262
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>>294246some of it, it looks like
I think they were pointing out the flaws like how some of the text is just squished into the speech bubbles
No. 294264
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Every time I see Holly's art, I immediately think Don Martin… Except Don Martin knew how to draw.
No. 294270
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>>294235I feel bad saying this but uh…
No. 294271
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>>294270Did she use her own face for reference for the old molester guy? The resemblance…
No. 294313
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all of her characters look like they want to come onto the shotas
No. 294344
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>>294313Tell me about
God, look at his face!
No. 294345
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Guess who's a popular bitch
No. 294355
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Holy fuck, the arm of the smaller guy i'm dying
>>294270tbh i think she references her face for all of her characters. It's the same proportions for all of them
No. 294357
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>>294356>>294344I knew it reminded of something.
"You like jazz?"
also pic related
No. 294376
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Shit, I created an account just to see how bad the porn comic is, and it was worthy it. The lines are so shitty and jesus fuck the anatomy.
I normally would feel bad for mocking other people's art, but she does that with other people all the time even though her art is 8th grader tier
No. 294379
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>>294376She's almost good enough to get a job drawing DVD covers for older animated movies.
No. 294383
>>294376Jesus anon, spoil that shit.
>That downsy look on his face>That off-centered dick.>That fucking hand gripping his thigh.>That thumb on his right hand>That hair that looks like one of ash's "styled" wigs.I might be nitpicking but holy shit.
Another anon mentioned something along these lines but christ I think the only thing Holly is good for is to make other people feel better about their art.
I mean, I GUESS that's a way to contribute to society??
No. 294392
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>>294376this is getting ridiculous
No. 294405
>>294376this is absolutely inexcusable. Holly is the single worst "professional" artist I've ever seen. Her art is terrible, her personality is terrible. Nothing about her as an artist or a person is redeemable. It's honestly taken all the restraint I have not to actively antagonize her online.
I really hope this girl gets her wake up call. I hope she realizes her own hypocrisy and her shortcomings and either shuts up and works harder or just gives up all together. The way things are now, if she refuses to improve and just continues drawing terrible, bland comics and shitting on her fans and other artists, she's going to go nowhere in art or life.
I hope she applies for all sorts of professional positions at well-known companies and is rejected from every single one.
Holly is the most mediocre artist on the internet and does not have nearly enough skill to talk big game like she does. There are dozens of competent, friendly, and consistently professional comic artists I associate with on a daily basis who don't have even half the fanbase she does and deserve it a thousand times more than she does.
sage for rant. tldr, Holly sucks and im
triggered No. 294453
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>>294376Bonus points: Erotica and explicit content with the express purpose of titillating is banned on tapas. It's against TOS and she shouldn't even be posting it there.
Though there isn't anything sexy about this.
No. 294787
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I thought these were pretty rich coming from her, especially the outlined tweet. You literally act like anyone who doesn't kiss your ass, is out to get you. Quit telling other artists what to do.
No. 294942
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>>294016Yeah something like that, she uploaded an update and it turns out she deleted them because she wasn't feeling sure about her art. Interestingly enough, she mentioned that she received a lot of harsh criticism from a friend and she can't stop thinking about it. Maybe I'm reaching here but what are the chances that that friend was Holly?
No. 294948
>>294932She didn't. Unfortunately she deleted the video, but she apparently sent in a sketch book and it was rejected. The response she made about it was basically, "CalArts is so stupid, my sketchbook is obviously the best and they rejected me because they didn't understand my vision and they have no idea how to judge a sketch book" or some shit. The comment section to that video was amazing because everyone called her out for her bullshit and some said that she deserved to get rejected.
I knew I should of saved that video!
No. 294963
>>294948Okay, NOT defending Holly but
>Unfortunately she deleted the video, but she apparently sent in a sketch book and it was rejected.I'm pretty darn sure she said in that video that she DID get accepted into calarts, but opted not to attend b/c money. And she talked about all these other rejected sketchbook carat submissions being so good but didn't get in b/c calarts has very strict 'dumb' regulations.
Her rant was about how calart's selection process is dumb b/c sketchbooks r very personal and junk. The reason why ppl got mad about it is b/c if your applying to a prestigious art school you shouldn't complain about their requirements. That's like a person complaining a job didn't hire them b/c the place didn't like their portfolio.
>the response she made about it was basically, "CalArts is so stupid, my sketchbook is obviously the bestShe said the a lot of the rejected sketchbooks were works of art and amazing, she doesn't say hers are the best. Highly suspect why Holly ranted about it after apparently getting accepted tho. Like she cares about all those other ppl who didn't get in.
But yeah, we only have Holly's word she got accepted
No. 294983
>>294963I dunno, man. I was exaggerating my last post a bit (I've also been drinking), hell maybe I was drinking when I watched her CalArts video too or maybe I just got so
triggered I couldn't pay attention. The one thing I do remember was a comment from a person saying they attended CalArts and they tried to explain to Holly why she didn't get in.
No. 295015
>>294983I understand anon, I just try not to spread misinformation when I can help it cuz i like fact not fiction
I remember reading through the comments and there was a lot of ppl accusing her of not actually getting in as her motivation for the rant
So I bet the comment ur referring to either
1) assumed holly bluffed about getting accepted and provided criticism on the holly's sketchbook (In the rant video she was flipping through her sketchbooks)
2) or provided more analysis on why those other sketchbooks from rejected artists didn't make it (i.e. they didn't make sure to fit the criteria enough/ not enough life drawings etcetera)
No. 295344
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>>294963>>294948I looked up on Google for the video just in case anyone had mirrored it (I don't know why but you never know) and this came up, seems like a site that had the video embeded or something.
I don't know what to make out of it, I am just really curious to see the video now hahah Makes me wanna ask her why she deleted it.
Either way, I don't believe she ever got in anyway and just lied about it kek
No. 295371
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>>295344googled the same thing after seeing this, and found a thread where they mention holly. according to people there she was rejected, the video was a rejection rant.
this is the thread:
https://yuki.la/ic/2821811pic related. sorry if it's been mentioned before.
No. 295438
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>>295371Image from that thread, top kek
(saged because i don't know if it was already posted)
No. 295643
>>295609No she said she got accepted in the rant. There was even another video she made where she mentioned it titled "Should you go to art school?" where she talks about her art school experience and why she switched to online school.
But I can't find that video either cause she fukin deleted it
No. 295647
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>>295371
> according to people there she was rejected, the video was a rejection rantIts not a rejection rant if in the video she says she got accepted
Not saying its true but the video's intent was rant not rejection rant, which is important for this threads narrative
No. 295650
>>295609>>295643Why is everyone so sure she got accepted? I don't think she'd make a long, ranting video and delete it out of shame if that was the case. Sounds like she got rejected and lied about it to save face in the video (but, given who she is, couldn't contain her salt to make her lie sound believable).
I mean, why would anyone apply to CalArts if they didn't have the money/financial aid/scholarships in the first place? They wouldn't. It's incredibly competitive, and graduating from there will waltz you through the door of the animation industry. She's definitely lying.
>>295647This image sums up my thoughts about it. I get that you're trying to say "she
said she got accepted", but we're not arguing that point. We're talking about how it seems like she was lying about it. It was definitely a rejection rant.
No. 295656
>>295650>>295647Yeah, I agree she was rejected. Not only her art is not CalArts material AT ALL (They are looking for people that really understand anatomy and form, not people that just pretend to do), but
>Waah wahh so many people with great art get rejected because CalArts don't get their STYLE!!!11 for 15+ minutes >o no but not me i just suddenly started caring about other artists, the shit mouthing them is scheduled to next week's video>and imma delete this video because i am telling too much truth, mortal ears can't bare itYeah.
Video related, this guy has amazing art and still got rejected probably because it still didn't have enough gesture, understanding of lighting, environment and such. (I mean, it did have those things, but I believe just not -enough-.
No. 295781
>>295724I think another part of this guy's problem is that he isn't showing his thought process on the page. Mediocre is fine if you can show that you think.
Pro tip for anyone trying to get in, show that you have a thought process. I mean, This guy has a lot of studies and character designs but neither are related to one another. Start with studies and then push them into characters, that'll show what they want to see. Just look at all his animal studies and then notice that he doesn't do anything with them. Nothing in his sketchbook really shows a learning process.
This makes me just…there is no way Holly got in with her inability to plan and develop.
No. 296030
>>295781Oh, good to know. Not that I plan to study at CalArts, I am not even american lmao but it's good to create a portifolio for elsewhere, I think.
Thanks.
No. 296104
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She is actually selling this on a pin. Those hands just don't look right at all. I know that enamel pins are small, but wouldn't you at least proof your work?
No. 296116
>>296104That leg looks like it was severed, not bent inward. That hair still manages to
trigger me.
No. 296128
>>296104the line work on that left hand/arm is
triggering me. i sincerely hope she loses all her business and has to start all over again with proper technique and art.
No. 296211
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the spooky thing she does in her vlogs where she lets us see her reflection in the window in the dead of the night
No. 296213
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ALL YOU DO IS BITCH. How is she so blatantly unaware of herself?
No. 296316
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>>286955>kysYou don't have a ~style~ holly, you just don't not how to draw at all.
No. 296333
>>296329Right? shit is frustrating
Can we just talk about how annoying her fans are? I barely made it through this video
No. 296373
>>296333Wow, her followers are just as gross and obnoxious as she is holy shit.
Also, who the fuck gets that confused opening a package?
No. 296404
>>296178part of me really wants her to see this and the /ot/ art thread. like maybe seeing so many people pissed and annoyed would wake her up.
but then I remember where I am and who I'm talking about
No. 296446
>>296424I always thought it was due to her association with the game grumps. She still tweets them and shit, so that's gotta get some of their fans going to her for a chance to get closer with the actual game grump group. Y'know, because she's such a cool "birb" mom and so "relatable."
>>296410This sounds like an awful idea. Holly had no qualms about name-dropping that other significantly smaller youtuber in one of her recent vids and subsequently having said smaller youtuber receive tons of hate (for something that was true; she said Holly was always fucking negative). I have no doubts she would her video rants would hint about going on here and then she would whine about how we all hate her for reasons. Then she would casually drop the name of the entire site at some point to her curious viewers and we'd get a massive wave of her dumbass underage fanbase that we don't need.
No. 296486
>>296471Okay, this answers a ton of questions that I had. Sorry for the mix up everyone! If that is the case, then I am also really confused on how she gained this much damn popularity.
>>296461https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMtPeNRMPGg&ab_channel=HollyBrownVlogs She even publicly posted the video link when the commenter said to DM it to her, lmao. Around 4:00 she starts on her tangent.
No. 296496
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So this happened.
No. 296499
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>>296496>way to be pettyLook in the fucking mirror Holly
No. 296533
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>>296524>Acceptance rate 100%Lmao goddamn
Also spotted this review about the online classes. And you're paying 30k a year for this shit. But at least Holly doesn't get challenged or required to work hard which probably suits her just fine.
No. 296600
>>296410we've been through this in this thread.
As this
>>289776 other anon said:
>Nah, its way more fun and spontaneous for ppl to discover their dedicated hate threads when googling themselves and then freak out publicly No. 296697
>>296656I think its already been mentioned before how
triggered everyone is about how she handles her cintiq
Something that expensive and coveted to the art community being manhandled is the equivalent to watching mild child abuse
And the glove thing isn't surprising considering she's never had to use a glove b4 and likes the idea of change but never actually follows through
No. 296744
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>>296561>P.C. Whitethis is a masterpiece
No. 296868
>>296561Oh my fucking god that was hilarious
>I thought 7 of them had died I can't
No. 297017
>>296561Yeah, my only worry is that you drew on her scars, people probably won't take what you say at any value because of it, like
>HE'S MOCKING SELF HARM, HE'S TRASHSo yeah. Other than that, spot on.
On a side note, I am super happy this thread got a lot of track though, I thought it would flop big time kek Thank you for being a whiny bitch, Holly.
No. 297027
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>>296104Whenever I see her art everything looks so skewed so I tried to fix it with the liquefy tool
Sorry I'm shit at photoshop but goddamn the way she draws her heads irritates me
No. 297041
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>>297027great work with the face, but you inspired me to make one more small improvement…
No. 297055
>>297048ehh, the most I've seen ppl do is post the bad drawing and redraw over top the corrections w/ red pen
cause if you just draw, like, a fan art of it but better it'll teach ppl nothing of having this particular style but w/ correct anatomy/ proportions an perspective
like, ppl will definitely shit on you if your redraw is just a classic shota anime boy
No. 297061
>>297048>>297059we do have people who do amazing art (see the momo thread and all of its hilarious cover art) but tbh if your drawing isnt super illustrative of something wrong with the original that wouldn't otherwise be so noticeable or isn't a funny parody, you're probably going to get shit on even if it's not terrible.
presentation is a lot of it - slapping a big ass signature on it or getting happy with the namefagging will get you hated on if not shipped out to pasture entirely.
imo tho it's not worth doing redraws, just redlines. all a redraw says to most people is "look at me and how much better i am" which def crosses into what
>>297055 says
No. 297069
>>297062in case that reply came off kinda mean - i am always interested in redlines! i've done a few for the ash thread but that just feels like the lowest hanging fruit possible lol
(last post about this, i promise, sry4derail)
No. 297094
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my half assed attempt at redlining and fixing some shit that bothered me. still looks a bit fucky but i think i improved it a little. sorry for long
No. 297099
>>297094it's better, but still super flawed. it's hard to do a redline of something so fucked straight out of the gate.
sage for artsperging
No. 297106
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>>297100kek it looks like lord farqquad now, but good effort anon
No. 297110
>>297104It's like she was half listening in art class. "The hair doesn't stick to the skull" doesn't mean that it grows wings and has a mind of its own
>>297106anything is an improvement on the original, even unintentional Lord Farquaad lol
No. 297116
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She's gonna make an actual animation for Hamilton instead of an animatic, this is gonna be a trainwreck
No. 297120
>>297094Good job with the red-line anon. My biggest piece of advice would be to try to keep the line of action next time (and maybe even push it a bit) so your final result doesn't end up looking so stiff/flat.
As for the rest of the chat, I'm almost positive that Holly said she got accepted into CalArts in her CalArts rant because that was the main reason I started following her ages ago. I really wish I saved that video or something now.
No. 297133
>>297116why can't she just leave hamilton alone? she draws them so fucking ugly i already want to die. that heathers animatic was bad enough and it was barely even moving
>>297120that's very helpful, thank you! i should use lines of action more often. thanks for the advice :>
No. 297143
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here, since no one else knows what they're doing.
I never even knew about this artist until this thread popped up since I don't dabble too much in the youtube side of the art community but wow she's lazy. There's so many gaps, colors going outside the lines, wonky anatomy. The fucking left bat wing has 2 fingers while the right has 3? Also exaggerating your art makes it interesting and all but jesus fuck that hair, she has no right shitting on other artists with this coming off her pencil.
No. 297152
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anyone else physically feel their sexual organs curling up and retracting anytime she expresses some kind of excitement? on one of her recent videos she showed some of her screen where she was looking at killing stalking, and she squealed and rubbed the screen with her greasy little paws.. it was similar to the gross excited voice she used when talking about the molestation in her comic. why does holly have so many paraphilias? it's so clear that so much of her art is sexually driven, if not driven by the desire for fame and money.
pic is a palate cleanser
No. 297154
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just painted over it
didn't try to make it neat just wanted to fix it w/ her 'style' in mind
couldn't be fuked to rlly try w/ the wings either but its supposed to be an enamel pin right? Just make it symmetrical! Copy and Paste!!
I think theres major room for error whenever you make a character with no ears, really fucks ppl up
just draw the ears and then cover it w/ hair if you like it that way
No. 297157
>>296104the more I look at this the more I die inside
is she trying to do that thing in cartoons where they only have 4 fingers? and the fourth one is the thumb thats hidden away?
No. 297158
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>>297154ah you anons are amazing at making that thing look better
>>296104>mfw I had to redraw the whole thing just to make him look a little more humanI tried, praying my art will never become as potato-y
as hers
No. 297161
>>297158awh its cute in your style~! like the foot
Holly said this pin design was meant to be like a school play so that explains why she made the foot so bent (too bent, ouch) its cause he's supposed to be suspended by wires/rope
but since holly takes solstice in her style being
unique and "totally not tumblr-y/animu" we wanted to see if its possible to improve her style as it is
she'd be better off drawing anime, because most anime has good proportions/ anatomy / gesture – which is all the stuff that makes her stuff wonky today
No. 297211
>>297152> physically feel their sexual organs curling up and retractingsomeone put it in words
She says she likes girls too anon
I'm not saying bi isn't a thing but always pretty fishy coming from a smelly fujo
No. 297287
>>297211How much do you wanna bet it's just her trying to insert herself into her yaoi fantasies?
Not saying every queer fujoshi ever is like this, but I'm willing to bet Holly is into that shit for this reason.
>Or maybe she's realized she's too ugly for any decent guy to be attracted to her so she's aiming for women to preserve her ego. No. 297300
>>297078does she not realize almost all comics use those "lazy" and "ugly" bubbles? she can't even pull off the hand-drawn speech bubbles look
i really want someone to tell her that her not coloring her comic is "lazy".
No. 297338
>>297143>here, since no one else knows what they're doing.i had to actually go back at look at the original to tell what you did beyond fix the wings and the fingers which you pointed out, and you still didnt fix the most egregious errors (legs and foot) so maybe reevaluate your ego, anon
>>297158this one is hands down the best out of all the edits, if solely for thatyou made the leg and foot look right
though all these redraws are making me realize how absolute shit holly's art truly is, wow. you do have to just salt the earth and start anew to make it passable, and nothing on earth fixes that stupid fucking hair
No. 297481
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Why aren't we addressing her ad for these monstrosities?
No. 297523
>>297481my first thought was "who the fuck would buy these"
my second thought was "well, if i ever see anyone with one of these, i know to avoid them like the plague
No. 297532
>>297431thats true, but again i didnt care enough to draw it from scratch I was just spot cleaning
when I got to the bottom of the shirt I thought the hem was rlly weird for an untucked shirt so I just made it straighter
of course if i had to draw it from scratch I'd make a new figure and push the pose more, looking at the ad Holly made for these I guess she meant for Damien (the weird roach hair boy) to seem uninterested/ less eager to act in a school play compared to simon (weird glasses boy) whose PUSHING it
It was just hard to tell the expression she was going for
No. 297703
>>297154Shit this looks great. I love how you translated his weird yugioh hairstyle into something actually plausible.
>>297158You got a cute style too, I like how you did the face and wings in particular.
Both of these show how much better Holly's would've been if she didn't half ass/break the legs like that.
No. 297705
>>297481I mean, cmon, anyone who buys this clearly can't tell whats good art // aka all the Holly fans who genuinely think she's great at art
these are probably straight out of her sketchbook and she didn't put any effort to fix things in photoshop
0 effort into making even the wings on these enamel pins she wants ppl to pay 10 - 15 bucks for
No. 297708
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Just out of curiosity I wanted to quickly try something else and see how it would look like with correct anatomy and more movement…. and it still looks just so incredibly ridiculous it's beyond salvation.
What went wrong anons? Is it the pose, weird Krillin-tier proportions, ridiculous 90s animu hairstyle, stupid face expression? I give up.
No. 297717
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>>296561I'm fucking losing it, my shit is gone, Anon
No. 297727
>>297708The way you drew the pants/foot looks great anon
way more detail/effort than Holly's 'style' would ever allow
the arms look better also but it'd be better just to redraw the torso cuz its so cramped // an important tip in art is to make sure your pose is readable as a silhouette
>>297154 in my spot cleaning edit I think the hair/ head is a good version of the character looking sane
>bigger gravity defying hair does not make a cuter boy, Holly No. 297733
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That chin. Also sucking up to Hamlet Machine, god she's so annoying.
No. 297742
>>297733i don't know what hamlet machine is actually like personality wise, I've only read her comic
but at her lvl I bet she'd kek after looking through the rest of Holly's art after this shoutout
No. 297746
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>>297743reminds me of this condition some humans have
No. 297748
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>>297725 We could change everything to the point it wouldn't look anything like the original, but my point was to see her design just with more advanced anatomy since it seems to be the biggest problem people have with her drawings. That didn't solve that problem through, it still looks weird
>>297727I'm done with correcting this since it's not really worth any more time, but I kind of thought this torso is so short because he's bent as we can see bottom of his foot? I probably give Holly too much credit
>>297708 These facial expressions are just so off and random it's really hard to read what they're trying to convey
No. 297751
>>297733This one isn't even bad aside from that fucking chin. How can she look at that with a straight face?
Also I love that her art is giving artfags in this thread additional practice through extensive redlining and anatomy execution.
No. 297753
>>297733Wouldn't her style be more likeable if she wasn't so inconsistent? This one isn't that bad.
>>297751People can learn from masters but also from others mistakes. How ironic she is actually teaching people something about art outside of youtube tutorials.
No. 297778
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I finally understand what that hairstyle reminds me of. Tail is left intact and nothing is really changed except for added paws and head
No. 297800
>>2977482nd anon u were responding to here, yeah I got the bent torso thing too but I think its the short uneven shoulder space that gives me a migraine looking at this piece
high five for hair piece edit~
honestly how in the world does someone make anatomy tutorials when they draw something like this at the size of her hand? and she has a pretty meaty hand
No. 297801
>>297798agreed, it derails when too many ppl try it
we tried to warn ppl b4 hand tho
>imo tho it's not worth doing redraws, just redlines. all a redraw says to most people is "look at me and how much better i am" which def crosses into what >>297055 says No. 297806
>>297801>>297798Oops, y'all are right.
>>297733She's so close to having this look right, but on top of the chin, parts of the face are misaligned in perspective. The brows/eyes are from above, the nose is too abstracted to tell, and the mouth seems to be from below (I don't really see the lips protruding from the face in anime or stylized work except from that angle).
If Holly ever stumbles upon this thread, I hope you don't take these redlines/crits as a personal attack. Use them to improve. You have all the resources (literally, you've got a fucking Cintiq) at your disposal, and these crits should help you understand more appealing stylization and better fundamental work.
>>297778What a cute puppy. Improves the design, too.
No. 297809
>>297806Its alright, your redline & synopsis is actually informative and not fan art-y
I was the anon who painted over it, not the way to go but it only took me a six minutes b/c Holly dosent rlly do lineart as much as she paints it – won't do it again tho
No. 297811
>>297809It's weird because her line-art isn't really that bad if
>>297733 is indicative of her digital inking. I don't understand why she inks traditionally then autotraces them, when doing it digitally from the get go looks far superior for her. Especially when she's not trying to ink on a regular graphics tablet.
No. 297814
>>297811hm, thats true
my guess based of watching her vlogs is that she's just rlly attached/used to sketching on paper
she dosent like it when things are too 'clean/smooth' evident by the way she always mentions putting texture over her digital stuff and how she hates using the eclipse tool to do word bubbles
No. 297831
>>297820I think that'd embarrass ppl actually wanting to strum up a business like Holly by tying their art/style/characters w/ lolcow
its an anonymous site and someone's art is basically their signature/name
No. 297834
>>297831Yeah, that's true. 4chan had a good art board where people would post and give good feedback, haven't been there in a while though.
Sorry for the off topic discussion.
No. 297841
>>297287probs the latter
she said it herself she's disgusting rn, but is now working towards getting back to her high school weight when she was 'hot'
remember everyone she's almost 22, it's been 4 yrs since her time in HS
No. 297854
>>297794this is a perfect example of redline/slight redraw without being 'omg look at how much better i could draw this'. other artnons take note
>>297778 is the best one tho tbh
>>297820i agree 100% with
>>297831 , it would either turn into bad baggage for a good artist if they were found posting on a hate site or into namefag attentionwhore city. this is just not the place for it. there are places for it, and google will help you find them
>>297841PT-tier 'weight loss will not fix your problems' here, between her potatoes-in-a-sack face and awful personality
No. 297856
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are we still doing this or
No. 297857
samefag to say: anon who redrew the hamletmachine fanart, you shouldn't have deleted :( it was actually informative and not attention-whory and what we need more of
i change my vote to
>>297856 as the model to go from then, especially with the post improvement
No. 297869
>>297856Yes! That torso was driving me crazy, it was unfixable
Did you want someone to render it like
>>297857 suggested
I still stick to my earlier post
>>297801 about derailment but It'd be rlly cool if we could fix it for real
No. 297876
>>297869funnily i am both
>>297857 and the anon you quoted in
>>297801 and i'm not suggesting someone render it. actually, i'm saying anything other than a redline would be too much and something like this that clearly shows the anatomical problems and how to fix them to less art-inclined anons is useful. like, i can see that it's shit, but having it outlined like this shows me why it's shit.
>>297871at least sage if you're just going to bitch. what's your argument against it, anyway? imo it opens up new things for us to go 'holy shit holly is bad at this' at and makes it easier to spot her hypocrisy when she inevitably spouts some shit later
>>297869 No. 297879
>>297876because its useless
there are plenty of places to post your shitty redraws, they just derail the thread here. its been mentioned many times before already
go attention seek elsewhere
No. 297881
>>297876first anon u responded to here,
>i change my vote to >>297856 as the model to go from then, especially with the post improvement^ this sentence was the thing that made me think you wanted the rendering, I didn't read it as you putting your foot down on how we should go about redlining other bad Holly arts
So for other artnons lurking here's the template for redlines:
Lower opacity of og art and outline already existing structure/ don't bother w/ og art commentary except in the text box or bother the facial deets
then improved redlines on the side, capisce?
No. 297883
>>297879meh, we've basically covered Holly's shortcomings already nothing else to talk about
we're just waiting on future milk so why not let anons figure the shit out?
save the hate for Holly anon
No. 297885
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>>297879how bout fanart then
No. 297912
>>297900Holly likes story rape, Hamlet likes story rape
Its all coming together
No. 297914
>>297856her proportions are so wack and inconsistent
I remembering Holly bitching about Steven's (steven universe) proportions because "he's supposed to be 12 but his body is that of a kids" – she was trying to redraw him for the cover of her mini sketchbooks
and yet her character who is also 12 isn't any better kept for longer legs?
No. 297945
>>297917She said she thought a lot of steven universe eps are fillers, so most likely she's skipped quite a few
In her first draft of purg (like 15 pages) her characters were wayyy younger/ elm kids
So the current version of purg IS her older version and now she wants to draw them even older so she's tacked on more story to suit that narrative
She's just doing whatever she wants with little rhyme or reason
No. 297947
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was thinking about if I knew any characters w/ Damien's haircut
theres the princey from enchanted
No. 297954
>>297950no ones hair should ever be that high
I meant the guys hair is the acceptable version of Damien's
>sage for too much talk about Damien's shitty character design No. 297955
File: 1493017119388.jpg (1.82 MB, 3264x2448, IMG_0024.JPG)
I hear P.C.White got a new sketchbook and is working on a new video.
Thanks for the support of Polly White! My husband and I got bored that night and ended up creating the video for fun, and honestly, to just talk shit. We don't expect Holly to ever see it, so if she sees it, cool? Maybe she'll actually take a look in the mirror. If not, then at least we made you guys laugh!
No. 297959
>>297955wo-hoe! a married couple made the satire vid?
UNEXPECTED
great job guys, I'm tickled pink for that new video
No. 297960
>>297881really i meant to type 'pose improvement' and didnt realize i had typo'd it til now… whoops. 'putting my foot down' sounds too strong anyway - it's just my 2c.
>>297879i'm not one of the redraw anons but kthx
>>297885this is wonderful
>>297955your vid was fantastic and i'm glad that you owned up to it being you instead of pretending. keep up the good work.
No. 298172
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>>297879Eh this
>>297883,plus it's pretty fun to see how other artists approach to redrawing/editing her art to actually make it look good.
If Holly were to find the thread these examples would hopefully let her see what is exactly wrong with her art.
I'm eager to see how this tutorial turns out since her own comic isn't very good.
No. 298177
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>>298172I hate this "Z" panel bs. All pages are read in a z that's basic flow. Holly is awful at flow. I tried to map her tangents and dead ends. Sorry if this is incompressible, but she throws readers in the gutters so often. It's so obvious she doesn't know what she's doing.
No. 298181
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>>297798>>297801Shit, you guys are right. I guess I got too comfortable
I'm
>>297158 and didn't even see those previous replies, I'll stop with that redraw noise! ngl tho it's fun to redraw people's stuff and compare them, that character in particular is just so funny looking with his dumb hair I had to attempt it.
No. 298182
>>298179Kek.
Calarts is so overrated rn. She obviously is lying because the hype.
No. 298193
>>298179wtf is clarence in that is it to show the head shape im assuming? Also idk if the guy behind Gumball went to Calarts, the production is based in europe.
Im probably wrong, the calarts style isn't what gets me about these styles and more the humour. Its all the same screaming, random lol humour and adventure time asthetics. This is mainly Cartoon Network tho, Disney is a different beast.
>>298190Calarts is always gonna be hyped but I think this snobbery comes from tumblr kids like Holly being snubbed because she failed to get in. They tell you time and time again, they dont want finished work only. It's sketches and studys of every kind. Holly don't do that shit so she was panned and uses her internet status to now shit on it because "she's too good for that".
Calarts isn't the end all be all, she can apply to countless other unis but Calarts just has status.
No. 298196
>>298193Its because her sketches actually look like crap that she insists on rendering them all\
I kind of sympathize w/ Holly cause its clear that she really wanted to be an animator but knows she can't get into that field w/ her lvl of skill, so she settles for comic books she can post edit and even now she realizes the whole first half of purg looks way different b/c she didn't stop to develop herself
No. 298204
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>>298177I hope that I don't cause trouble with this. But I compare her recent comic compositions with some better ones (tried to stick to black and white comics with similar followings, not sure about the middle one…but didn't attach their names because i don't want to drag there names onto it).
Anyways like I hope this illustrates how haphazard her placement is. It isn't helped by how stupid she is with her bubble placement, or the fact her potato faces have zero eye lines to follow.
No. 298211
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>>298205I can accept Holly might be okay in the color scheme region But
the anatomy is still jacked tho and she doesn't have a handle on drawing clothes – just look at sasuke's shorts
No. 298224
>>298181I really, really, REALLY can't get over the face. It's like Sasuke's twin brother with down syndrome.
Also there's how the left leg looks off (It looks twisted to me? Idk. Can an art anon help here?) and how his hair really does look more like a cockatoo's ass than an actual head of hair.
Also the color scheme is a bit off, isn't it? And how the torso is squished? I don't even know.
>I would love to hear a proper critique from an art anon though.>Or better yet, redline. No. 298233
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>>297481I just noticed that she reblogged this two days before she posted about the pins. How.
No. 298323
>>298181>>298224I think the leg to our left is a bit too short and posed in a very stiff way. Very unnatural.
I think the only good thing about Holly's artistic skills really is her eye for color. She should be a colorist.
No. 298341
>>298204as someone who knows nothing about this kind of thing, this was cool. her comics have always felt hard to read to me but now i know why. her habit of putting speech bubbles over the gaps between panels is the absolute worst still imo
>>298233betcha 10$ she tried to follow this guide, doesnt have the ability to rotate 3D objects in space enough to replicate it, and ended up having to give up and do it the wrong way kek
>>298181the bar was set so low, and she's still regressed. yikes…
No. 298407
>>298341It's fine to overlap the gutters if you're following the flow of the page but her bubbles are shoved to the side the other issue is she makes tangents constantly. Just look up composition tangents and you'll see. It's great since she talks about that rule all the time.
Composition is very difficult with comics as it requires a strong understanding of gestalt and a lot of film and animation teqniques. You can really se it in the comparison. All the top pages are ashetically pleasing in both the whole composition and in the individual parts. The there's the ability to tell the story through a thought out number of panels.
Like in one page each of these comics creates a better scene than holly can in three pages of her "best part"
No. 298428
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>>298224if you're generous and assume he's wearing clothes 80x too large, you get left. if not, you get right. he's a little better because at least he has a flow to his pose, which I'm guessing she 'referenced'
No. 298502
>>298337I wouldn't bet on it, cause Holly actually seems to put practice into backgrounds especially if its nature, that's the one thing she doesn't find trouble doing
Her architecture can be alright as well but she doesn't like dealing w structural perspective too much
we complained earlier in thread her heathers animatic was mostly her showing off bgs
No. 298504
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So which one of you was it?
No. 298512
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Glad it was reported but jesus christ does she not grasp how fucked up pedophilia is? Just because they're "angsty teens" doesn't mean it isn't any more disturbing to see them drawn getting molested by a 40+ year old Hitler look-alike. She implied the kid got raped, so yeah, I guess nothing too serious right?
No. 298513
>>298512It's creepy she did the panels of the assault from the POV of the pedo, and not in an intentional, meta way like Nabakov's "Lolita". It felt like we were supposed to see the victim in the same sexual light the attacker sees him.
>>298204Maybe I'm over-reading it, but it feels more sensual (dialogue aside) and that we're supposed to be the creepy guy, rather than be squicked out.
No. 298526
There's something seriously wrong with her mentally.
>>298518Who in their right mind thinks that's an okay thing to say. Like it's completely normal to her and not at all troubling.
No. 298583
>>298542Yeah, I definitely get referring to the horrific shit as the good part. I don't do it as much because my readership backlashes a uncomfortable cringe wave. I feel like she'll probably get through it because it isn't explicit and it is technically diegetic.
The thing I don't get is, why doesn't she nsfw her posts? I don't like to be that guy. But it's pretty easy to do this and the only reason you wouldn't want to is because it cuts down on your ad impressions….then again, I'm one to talk because I constantly forget to turn it on.
No. 298597
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Wait, I'm right. It's just been age restricted. Cry me a fucking river, your rape scene isn't suitable for children. Boo hoo hoo.
>>298181Also I just realized this isn't supposed to be a girl.
No. 298735
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>>289732>pressed post instead of choose file. How even.Anyways, as I was saying, I can't help but to shake the feeling that holly's comic is a bit too similar to this one (which is kinda good btw).
IDK maybe I'm nitpicking.
No. 298766
>>298761Either this is a troll or you're really fucking stupid.
>"I don't think she remembers me"And if she sees this, she's gonna be trying as hard as she can to figure you out.
>"I'm kinda worried if she finds this…"And if she does? Aren't you supposed to be a nobody to her? Who cares. I smell some asskissing in progress.
Protip: This isn't how you do it.
Anon, love yourself and find someone else to stalk. Really, do you REALLY just keep constantly refreshing her comics and her page just to see what's new?
And besides, she would have shitted up that comic critique circle with her "facking fucking foocking i'msomuchbetterlikei'mnotaprofessionalbutthisfamousartistssucksandidoitbetter REEEEEE" bs. Thank god she didn't reply.
No. 298771
>>298597Why is she upset over this? Her work isn't okay for all ages. It deals with rape, violence and adult relationships…
Ooooh but most of her fans are tweens and teens. I get it. But honestly who pays attention to the age restricted warnings
No. 298775
>>298761Again why assume it was us? Usually anons would brag about reporting it. You honestly just seem like a spazz.
It was probably just some prude going through the yaoi tags and saw a few of the scenes and decided children shouldn't read it. And again, this isn't a childrens book anyway, so why are you chimping out so bad?
If you're that scared of her, she isn't someone you want to associate with.
No. 298776
>>298771Yes, this. The worst thing that's gonna happen is that her tween fans will have to create new accounts with fake ages. The woe, the horror.
She is complaining when she shouldn't even be posting porn to tap, it's against their TOS.
No. 298801
>>298786Yeah anon I highly doubt Holly knows me personally. I reported her comic (and her shit no word yaoi trash) on taptastic because her bullshit finally made me annoyed enough to do so. I've never spoken directly to her tough we run in similar circles.
Honestly if you do tell her think before you do because you might start shit where it isn't happening. I'm not afraid of Holly, but again I know for fact you have no idea who I am.
No. 298808
>>298791Yeah, I'm kind of seeing that. It bums me out that she's burning a bridge here. I know I'm not popular by any means, but frick if I don't have shiny publishing connections. I learned early into this that you never really know who knows who, and damn if the comics I started following at 200 subs haven't turned into hits. I know publishing is a competition in some respects, but you don't get far treating it that way. Still, makes me sad….
>>298801This makes me wonder if we know each other like just in passing, since these circles are pretty small. Like, I'm sure I must know some people here which gives me solace.
I'm just sort of noticing how no one I follow is following Holly which just makes me wonder how isolated from things she is? I won't tell her about this stuff, because like it's been said the reporting is fair enough. If she does track it down to me I feel less worried than before since when it comes to the people I care about they might not even know she exists.
No. 298863
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>>298761>>298786>>298808well that was certainly something
No. 298924
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>>297481>>297158Sage for redraw (Spoiler for sanity)
But this bothered me a lot.
TLDR: Basically the face and pose don't match well and that's why it's so hard to redraw it well without it looking like a different picture.
The whole character just seems flawed. At first I thought it was supposed to be some form of tumblr fan-art of a supernatural character. The hair is just super ugly and impracticable to have if you can't draw it well at an angle
No. 298938
>>298924nice work anon. your "emulated cartoony style" is very nice.
i cannot fathom how holly is successful with her fucking vile art,it looks like something drawn by a 15 year old with aspergers
No. 298958
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>>298924those drumstick legs are actually more fucked than the original but your points about the expression are solid
>>298938the bar for quality of art in BL is exceedingly low - see pic related/google "yaoi hands". what's the adage, people don't watch porn for the storytelling?
No. 298987
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>>296104not an exact match but this is ALL I SEE when I look at the dude's hair, sorry.
No. 299018
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>>298761spill if it's good or get over yourself. she's not going to let you lick her asshole for bringing the h8r to justice. the report was completely legitimate to their TOS and it was very likely more than one person who reported it
or just shut up and fuck off instead of making the thread about your 'oh no gaiz my morals uwu' bullshit
No. 299030
>>299021thats the whole point of the post it looks like, no matter how much you try to move things around/improve it, it'll still look off unless you completely change/redraw the whole thing.
there is no saving him
No. 299033
>>299030not that anon but this is why anons upthread were speaking against redraws: people with art that's shitty in different ways will come to flaunt how much "better" they are when they aren't. the art of the redraw is honestly not better even though it's more complex - intentionally-ugly-tumblr-art face and thunderthighs/rubber legs. the leg with the foot view from below is actually worse than holly's.
it's not a matter of that holly's cant be saved - it's a matter of people who can't draw well either acting holier-than-thou, which is just doing the same thing holly does to more talented artists anyway
No. 299038
>>299033someone needs to do a redraw of
>>298924 so we can descend into meta holly hell
No. 299046
This thread went to a shit show fast.
>>299039Damn, the first draft does look better. It doesn't help that live tracing all of her pages after scanning makes them look 10x more bland and wonky.
No. 299055
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>>299043yeah, I can see where you're coming from
the tumblry-stylized one is a bit hard to look at, but I'd at least cut them some slack for making some good points.
>>299038I think we should just stop the redraws and stick to red lines, because it's turning the thread into a shitshow.
No. 299063
>>299039i watched her high school sketchbook video and although skill wise she wasn't the greatest, her HS art looks a lot more lively and looser than what she makes now.
But yeah her first draft looks like something i'd choose to read over her current one.
i feel like she sacrificed personality for "correct proportions".
No. 299125
>>298924 Is there any way to remove this adminis? Password isn't working although I never changed it.
(I'm author of op)
No. 299274
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>>299039Holy fuck, it is so much better. Like, how you lose so much personality in such short period?
It looked kinda Invasor Zim-esque, I dunno, looked like a horror comedy story, something like that.
I am glad people in the comments are agreeing with us.
No. 299431
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this was kinda sad to read
No. 299440
>>299432I get a lot of secondhand-embarassment/cringe so I don't watch her videos, but the summaries of her videos are really depressing. She sounds really lost about art, and it sounds like she should try doing something else for a while and then reconsider a career in the arts.
I definitely understand feeling unmotivated or frustrated by art, but I don't know, she doesn't really seem to have a goal in mind? Or a driving force?
No. 299446
>>299440shes straight up said she wouldn't be able to live if she couldn't do art as her job, working in any other field is beneath her and she just cannot
sounds pretty spoiled but she does suffer from depression and has self harmed which shows how fragile of a person she must be
No. 299459
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>>299446Man, I'm gonna sound like a dick but looking at her art, but I wouldn't have guessed how devoted she is based on how her art progression. I go through into a lot of depressive episodes that halt art activities, so I understand how disruptive that can be towards improving, but she's gotten worse or stagnated at the very least.
It's unfair to compare artistic growths of different people, but when people put themselves through FZD hell or 12-hour-a-day-drawing-NEET-life to the point of developing carpal tunnel or severe hand injuries (pic related) just to git gud, I find it hard to sympathize with her.
I know this thread is about Holly specifically, but I come across a lot of people similar to her, where their pride and Dunning-Kruger-level-of-self-importance just doesn't reflect their actual execution or practice.
No. 299469
>>299432> plan to be an art teacher, but we didn't mention she said she's just doing the degree as a safety net if she dosent become famous enough really, isn't this the plan of every art teacher?
she'll continue to make money as long as there are impressionable fujoshit preteens though
No. 299491
>>299459I don't have depression but what I do have in common w/ Holly is that we both barely get out of the house b/c we can't drive and need to draw
(I still go to my college campus a few times a week though)
I've realized now that's almost like being on house arrest and that I need to get out more to the library or something, not only is it better for overall mental health but you'll have more rl experiences to translate into your art
No. 299492
>>299486With all the figure studies she does for school you'd think she'd be able to translate that into her art, right?
I guess the reason why her figure studies look wayyy better than her characters is b/c she rlly is just copying and eyeing the reference and not absorbing any of the underlying structure to it
No. 299506
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I tried reading her comic and GOD. It's so boring and slow. I got to page 50 and nothing fucking happened. I gave up shortly after.
Also, it's such an eyesore. Her decision to make it red against white was so poor. Also, the lines so inconsistent, and often too fucking thick. Everything just mashes together into a big blob, and it's unreadable.
Also, pic related, dat perspective jesus fuck
No. 299511
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>>299506When she tries to scale down her figures it just dosent work, its like they turn into chibis or are just deformed
consistent problem w/ her comics proven by
>>294355 No. 299512
>>299506When she tries to scale down her figures it just dosent work, its like they turn into chibis or are just deformed
consistent problem w/ her comics proven by
>>294355 No. 299514
File: 1493265386264.jpg (771.91 KB, 1600x643, vanishedpoints.jpg)
>>299506i may not be the greatest at perspective but i made an attempt to try and draw a grid based on that wonky-ass left panel and just, what happened here
better artnons feel free to correct me, but by my understanding, all lines heading towards/away from the viewer should meet at one (or sometimes two, if you're getting complex) singular vanishing points, and all lines perpendicular to that should be straight and flat across. see left compared to right.
tl;dr her perspective sucks because she doesnt even try but what else is new
No. 299526
>>299514No, you are totally right anon. All lines should go to the same point.
I also ain't the best with perspective, but that panel is just… sad.
i really wish someone would redraw it with the correct perspective No. 299539
>>299483Yes.
Also, she's an artist, she should just apply for an artist alley table. Or apply for a panel if that's what she wants to do. Alley seems like it would be good for her though, she can just sit around and sell copies of her shitty comics and prints and stuff.
It's really not hard to apply for one, just link a portfolio and wait for a response, have some stuff you want to sell and the money for a table. The only reason I see for asking for guest status is to try and get paid/get table space for free? She's not even very well known lol, maybe a tiny-ass con would feature her but they also have to care about operating costs far more so I doubt she would recieve any compensation.
No. 299552
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>>299526used an isometric view since it seems to be closer to what she actually drew. obviously I didn't use a ruler so lines are still kinda organic. if you are as wobbly as she is (with something as unforgiving as traditional media) use. a. ruler. the worst offender in her image is definitely hitler's chair leg.
also note how she forgot to give the table legs.
No. 299553
>>299552lmaooo i didnt even notice the missing table legs. both of those dudes have to be paper thin to fit in that tiny gap between chair back and table anyway
really, she just has no grasp of 3d
No. 299629
>>299541At about 24:20 she mentions making about £500 profit – "£1000 if I hadn't stayed in the hotel"… then goes on to say "a lot of people bought my book, like, six or seven!"
Like she said she made most of the money on commissions but I still don't get that. There's no way she made £500 profit - actual profit, subtracting other costs - let alone £1000.
No. 299767
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>>299506Maybe I'm fucking up, but the vanishing points are both on the same side of the picture. If the Earth's horizon is pic related, then they're defying gravity. Not to mention the vertical lines are all going separate/opposing directions.
Objects closest to the "camera" should be bigger than objects further away, but she did the opposite (like the wall's border). Even if you move one of the VPs to the left where it should be, the VPs are way too close together (makes objects look like they're "falling off the page"/distorted).
I don't hate this girl or anything, but she churns out pages so fast, she's definitely sacrificing quality for quantity.
>>299552I think the table has reversed T legs (like some school desks), while the chairs have normal "stick legs", but she didn't draw the left side and there's no space for it anyway (the center of the table is very offset).
No. 299785
>>299552Thank you, kind anon. We can see that even with your rough-ish lines, it's miles better than her finished product.
>>299767
>I don't hate this girl or anything, but she churns out pages so fast, she's definitely sacrificing quality for quantity.This, yeah.
No. 299980
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Here we go again
No. 300086
File: 1493346319784.png (298.19 KB, 800x600, croquet.png)
Sorry for the rough lines, I just wanted to redline rl quick
Dont praise me, lets just discuss what went wrong in the og art
No. 300099
>>300086here we go again
work on some cleaner lines anon
No. 300108
>>300098? welp I don't know what i could've said to make it not sound that way then
>>300099Is it rlly that much of an eyesore? Its just meant to demonstrate my points
No. 300111
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>>299980
>right hand is non-existant>stiff-ass pose>can only draw one type of shoe that aren't snickers, apparently>kek at that skirt, she's "showing the haters" cause she said she would draw puffier skirts, still looks awful>trademark jay leno chin>the fucking end part of the criket-stick-thingie is flat as shit>shading all over the place>etc etc etcProfessional, you guys.
No. 300113
>>300108tbh its pretty annoying, just trace it over a new layer would be a lot nicer.
Also the point of a redraw is to correct the anatomy mistakes of the original, not to draw a new pose. To me the original upper torso isn't too bad, it's the waist downwards which is displaced.
also also I thought we're done with shitty redraws
No. 300118
>>300086This is fine to me tho?
It's not like she redrew it completely, like.. Giving it a face with her own style and shit like other anons were doing earlier… I think it was on topic still.
And with good note to boot. I think you're too salty, this is informative.
But that just me, I guess. sage.
No. 300127
>>300113there rlly wasn't 'much' wrong w/ the anatomy its the pose thats stiff and unnatural and she's holding the thing wrong
but I guess I could've just moved the legs forward, sure
w/ the mallet that far away she would need to be more bent over or she wouldn't have very good balance, anon
No. 300164
>>299980she has zero sense of body language. even without referencing anything, she could have grabbed a broom and looked at her own hands on it, or posed herself and thought about how her limbs were placed
the skirts are actually more infuriating than helmethair to me now though, the fuck kind of marilyn monroe vent gust is this shit
>>300086i'm with the non-hating anons on this, this is a good redline, but skip the "dont praise me" next time bc it sounds like you expected some
No. 300233
>>300164ah, sorry! at least u weren't a douche bout it
I just didn't want the responses to start off w the obligatory "great work anon/nice job" from the nicer anons like what happened up thread when ppl were drawing all those shota boys
No. 300600
>>300330i watched some of her livestream and she actually didn't look up references until after she drew the pose, then didn't even use it.
at around 1:29:30
No. 300615
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>>300330
>gets bitched at for altering pose slightly>gets bitched at for not changing pose enoughI was thinking about what holly was actually going for in the piece, there are a few angles to play croquet at
yes ppl are very hunched over to eye it better but you don't have to hunch to tap the ball
I wanted to keep the one the legs back, the mallet relatively the same size (there are variations in mallets) to keep the general pose holly was going for: because she wanted Heather to play croquet in action but also show her face and pose
thats why I put: choose play or pose b/c its impractical to do both (hunch over like ur invested in where the ball ends up/ or just lean on ur mallet looking pretty)
No. 300632
>>300619ur reaching Holly bitch lvl status
putting so much subtext behind "don't praise me"
sage for being a dumbass and expecting ppl to take it literally
No. 300717
>>300674kekety kek, im not being petty about ur nitpicks
Im not sad to hear what could of been improved! As long as theyr legitimate concerns, ur feedback isn't falling on deaf ears
the salty anons were getting uppity just for posting visual aids on an image board
No. 300731
>>300717you really need to stop now. if you're so not butthurt, stop replying to every anon who insults you like you are.
seriously, stop. don't even respond to my post. just stop.
>>300600i feel like she only made that tiny attempt to look at a reference image because people were watching her, so she can go "well look at me looking at reference images on my stream then"
No. 301011
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If any one wants to read a GOOD webcomics about two gay boys falling in love, read long exposure by smokeplanet. the art is really good,and way better then anything holly has ever craped out, and she actually WANTS to work on it,unlike hollys shitty attitude about her own comic
No. 301121
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>>301011I appreciate the recommendation anon
No. 301279
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>>301011To me the ultimate is always going to be
http://tjandamal.com/ Absolutely incredible art (peep her scenery, she puts more effort into one panel than Holly has put into her entire comic) with a deep, actually heart-wrenching story and relateable, realistic, non-pandering characters
and it's all free online sooo
No. 301888
>>300086all that fucking chicken scratch
>don't praise mepffft
No. 302062
>>301860drawing mpreg
fuck i thought she couldnt get any more disgusting
No. 302110
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>>302062It's suppose to be a 'joke' but she put way more effort in it than I am comfortable with
No. 309310
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Like, 124k followers for this kind of art.
Sage for angry samefagging.
No. 309334
>>292351Her art aside, the flow on this page is fucking terrible. Floating heads, no tension at all. The lettering is
atrocious I'm actually mad because she talks down on everyone and this is what she produces.
No. 309348
>>309310why does it seem like everyone is drawing fucked up mermaids right now
is drawing a big flappy tail their cop out for not knowing how to draw the human figure
No. 309351
>>309348Yes. I see it so much on the "psychedelic art" side of tumblr and the untalented bitches there love to pass it off as "well its psychedelic so its random and fitss xD"
Draw some legs! It's still not coherent!
No. 309450
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>>309348>>309351>>309359Yeah, it's kind of an art "Meme", like Inktober.
Also,
>>309310 it just looks like it's a regular boy standing on a lake and a big ass fish is diving behind him. It doesn look connected at all.
And what is this pose.
No. 309471
>>309310Good to know Holly still isn't improving
God, if she doesn't get it together her views are going to dwindle like Baylee's
No. 309512
>>309479Looks like it, she's brought it up recently.
I don't think so, she can fit into the /snow/ category but not as much as Holly
No. 309522
>>309471nah, as long as there are stupid artist teenagers w/ even less skills than Holly and still like her edginess shes gonna get views
there are so many 12 yr olds posting 5 second clips of their animated turd memes on yb its
triggering the cancer is no longer being contained on deviant art
No. 311171
>>311027She can't draw shoes for shit. Those heels look like clown shoes.
Also, who the fuck covers their Cintiq in stickers? Is she 5?
No. 311483
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I don't know how to feel about this tweet….like…why did you do this in the first place?
>>309450Why did she add piss wash yellow to this?
No. 311621
>>311171WHO THE FUCK PUTS STICKERS ON A CINTIQ
I'm
triggered No. 313050
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>>311621>>311630I don't mind the stickers, but I agree she should've placed it better, like, there's no cohesion? So much for being an artist.
Also, the pins arrived.
No. 313123
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>>313050The gold outlines really clash. But honestly, the entire concept for these pins were poor from the very start. Fully-body, realistically proportioned art just does not work for enamel pins, especially when the detailing gets that small (like in batshota's hair and the Homestuck-pointy-glasses-guy's entire head). I mean, of course there's exceptions, but this is not one of them.
Her other enamel pins turned out a lot better because of conservation of detail and that they're only heads. The gold trimming doesn't work with her palettes though.
No. 313141
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>>313050Does anyone even buy these besides her friends?
No. 313174
>>313141>"does anyone even buy these besides her friends?">first pin I notice is 'I don't think so'Kek
Answers itself
No. 313553
>>313050how did these somehow get worse
>>313123who are these pins supposed to appeal to, people who love punchable faces?
>>311027maybe next she can figure out how to draw fucking glasses, that flat |><| bullshit
triggers me every time, its like a bad superhero mask
No. 313955
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She's such a bitch to her own fans all the time.
Why even bother answering if it's just gonna be super rude. I mean, if you're tired of that question or something, just delete it.
No. 314358
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so why.even.bother.replying
I think I've said it before, I usually like Holly's work with colour, and if she was a normal, nice girl, I'd probably support her as an artist because I think it's important. But she's just so self-intitled and bitchy.
>>314229Unfortunately, most of her fans are online ones, so she doesn't need to worry so much about being professional at adressing them. Ugh. Even GalatiBun (or w/e is her handle) is more professional and level-headed than her, and she's fucking 14.
No. 319742
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I happened to scroll through her tumblr and jesus, the fucked up arms on the guy on the left.
No. 319804
>>319742lol what the fuck? the bearded guy's arms are beyond jacked up. his left hand (our right) should be tucked under his arm. she made it look like he has 3 fucking arms or something. how do you fuck you mess up so bad and not notice?
also, it also might be her sucking, but the glasses kid's left hand (our right) looks like it has an extra finger kek.
No. 319894
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>>319742Good to know she's still drawing like shit
Apparently she's making an exclusive cover for kick starter backers, I really want to know who in the right mind would kick start this?
No. 325487
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>>319608Nah, it's just under aged fans that just like her "rude,tough" attitude
Which I don't understand because when people come after Holly and call her out on her hypocritical bullshit she chimps out and just deletes the comments
>Even tho she's finally getting her comic published, Holly still can't perspective or anatomy No. 326145
>>325487 Oh no.. That is terrible. The poses look stiff and don't do any sense no matter what the context is and I cannot believe this is her redraw of the page..
Gotta love those floating fingers in the second panel. and How much longer that other dude is?! So long that they need to look that much up? Wtf.
No. 326156
>>326145The thing is that she has potential, she's working a lot and actually doing things instead of just talking about them, which is impressive. But then there's this whole side where she thinks she's the best of the best, claims to be good at basically anything she does (in her vlog from yesterday she said that she's really good at graphic design, which… she's not. That cover is a mess design-wise) and talks shit about every other artist out there. I just don't get it.
But I think her kickstarter is reasonable if she's really asking for around 2k. But let's see, I kind of hope that she fails because she's so stuck-up and terrible as a person and needs a reality check for her art.
No. 326601
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>>326156The summary text of her book is so bad.
No. 326603
>>326601this legit reads like engrish, i read it 3 times and still can't understand that middle sentence, holy shit
>>319742old guy's arms are a fucking optical illusion. what the fuck goes through her brain to make her take a piece to that level of finish with colour without fixing the basic anatomical mistakes?
No. 326670
>>326156im also really torn, her work ethic/ art hustle is nothing to sniff at
but it makes me rlly salty and not want to support her due to everything ppl have mentioned b4 in this thread; attitude, delusions, etc
it feels like all of this would be acceptable if she was in middle school or even highschool, but shes not
No. 326708
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Yup it was her.
I remember reading the back of the card going WTF..
Kid was so young and into weird stuff.
No. 326709
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No. 326713
>>326708Whoa, I love it when anons meet the people discussed here
what was she like anon?
No. 326716
>>320171Yes, it's Angus, kek.
It's funny how she covered everything with little pieces of paper to correct it and still fucked up badly.
>>326708Simon's hands here have no.. purpose.. at all? Like, it seems like their only purpose is to make the pose looks stiff and unnatural as shit. I don't get her decisions.
The colors are good, tho.
No. 327594
>>327546She said that it turned out so well and idk, I believed her because she's been making YouTube videos etc. But this is just terrible.
>>327565I should not have clicked that. I also thought nsfw work is not allowed on instagram. And I've only read parts of her comic, aren't the characters supposed to be underage?
No. 327812
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>>327546It's almost fully funded already.
She misspelled her comic's name a bunch. She said she's spellchecking her pages rn, I wonder how that's gonna go. I wanted to ask her if she'd ever let someone else spellcheck for her but anon is turned off on her blog and she scares me.
No. 327898
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I know this is an annoying comment, but it bugs me the way she responds to it. Stop being a bitch.
Or maybe this is me just reading too much into it.
No. 327927
>>327565her poses are stiffer than my dick rn
seriously tho has she ever even watched a real live gay porno? christ
No. 328100
>>328099around 2 hours and 24 m
not 2 minutes
No. 330121
>>328099This lack of self awareness is seriously fucking amazing. What exactly do they think makes them different from "those" dirty fujoshits?
Also, this
>>327565 is some cingeworthy shit, weren't her characters supposed to be 12 or something?? What the actual fuck.
No. 338442
>>338346What drives me crazy is that she always has to use the tiniest brush or pen (digital or not) to fill out giant areas. And then she complaints that it is taking her so long.
But I miss talking about her here, tbh.
No. 339399
>>338346She's repugnant, and if you bring it up to her in a comment she or her underaged psychopants will call you a hater.
It seems to be tumblr's typical line of thought. People (especially women) should be proud and own their repulsive behaviors. She really strikes me as someone who will never find a partner who isn't also a chubby, potato-faced fujo.
No. 340984
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Holly deleted all of her tumblr posts and replaced it with these weird aesthetic templates to feature her art.
I cant get over how ugly and cheesy these templates are. sure whatever use these ugly things for one or two drawings but not every single one. She keeps using the same templates but changes the background colors or object placement.
looks like shes gonna keep this aesthetic for awhile:
"hope you guys appreciate the aesthetic I’m going for"
No. 340994
>>340984Wait… What?
At first I thought it was kinda neat, but then I noticed that it's all digital? And it became weird and repetitive really fast.
Oh well. At least she's not being a mega-bitch as usual.
What about her contest, tho? Did she anounce the winners?
No. 342297
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>>340984This is stupid.
She said she did this to look "professional", you know real professionals in the gaming or cartoon industry don't even do that. Even if you were going to do these photography templates that anyone online can download, then make your own.
How hard is it to rent a DSLR Camera and take pictures? If she wants to stand out from the crowd then she should make her own shit. Overall she is doing this because her room is a fucking mess
No. 343361
>>343349I had to laugh when she said she wasn't sure if she should share how she did it. She's making it seem as if she discovered/ invented mock-ups? Some of the ones she did turned out nice but most of them look so fake and repetitive.
You can take good pictures with a phone, most artists do. You just need daylight and a clean area. Not hard.
No. 343377
>>343361So true, half my job is making mock-ups and I hate it. It's so tedious.
I took a break from making fun of her when I heard about her dad's cancer. Maybe that's why she seems different? Or maybe I'm just reading into things.
Seriously though, her kickstarter is a mess. She hit her stretch goal days ago and never made a new one. She says she just wants to make a profit and like…does she not realize you aren't supposed to make profits off kickstarter? It's all supposed to go into the product.
No. 344080
>>343377I couldn't really watch the video where she mentioned her dad's cancer because of the video corruption (I thought it was weird that she still uploaded it/ couldn't find a way to fix it). I hope he'll be fine.
And yeah, good for her for meeting the goal, but I don't understand why she isn't keeping up with it. And I do understand that she wants to make money of something she put a lot of time in, but kickstarter is not the right place to do so and I don't understand the expectation of making lots of money from a free web comic.
No. 344128
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eughh the guy's hand though
No. 344146
>>344128How many times do you think she drew that hand?
Still looks like shit.
No. 346002
This might be nitpicking, but I fucking hate her taste in fonts. Purgatory title font is hideous and that other one she uses in her videos is blinding.
>>327812>>326709>>301121Marked where you can see her using fonts, but really why do they have to be so wonky just like her art?
No. 346055
>>346002I fully agree. I'm a graphic designers and I get irritated so much whenever she says how good she is at it. One time I even tried to give her some constructive criticism to help out and she just said something along the lines of "ok? no one asked you" and it just made me mad. I was being overly nice about it and said it was a suggestion and gave reasoning behind it. And it the very fucking video she said how good she is at "graphic design stuff".
She doesn't want to improve.
No. 348055
>>347885Huion's graphics tablets are comparable to Wacom's, but I have no idea how their monitor tablets hold up. I'm sort of salty, because she already has a fucking Cintiq she puts stickers all over.
Also, does she legit not use hotkeys? Does she use shortcuts at least? Don't tell me she manually switches tools and settings with her mouse.
No. 348084
>>348055I've heard that Huion's monitor tablets are good, but not as good as cintiq. However, the price-benefit is way better. The only complaints I've seen so far besides the hotkey stuff is that the screen is more reflective, it's made with more plastic and it isn't as sturdy as a cintiq when you put it on your table.
They do try to listen to the feedback and improve tho, so I heard. Instebrak gave up using wacoms and now uses solely Huion.
Sage for tablet talk.
I must also add that I am too very salty kek I hope she gives away one of those monitor tablets? I don't know if she can give away the Huion though, considering it was given to her for free by the company? I guess that's illegal.
But her old Cintiq is doable, I guess. I'd take it even with all the stickers kek
No. 348254
>>347871Her drawings are so ugly… I couldn't even finish half the video due to how badly she was drawing
God damn how did she get sent it for free,why couldn't someone with actual talent be sent a free tablet to review?
No. 348319
>>347466lol just the fact that she had to compliment herself saying "cleaning too much would be disingenuous" like how??? that you picked up your fucking garbage to make your shit look presentable for a video? why is she proud of being a slob
nice to see her month old diet coke cans finally being thrown away tho. i wouldn't be shocked if she had a bad ant problem
No. 348817
tbh i'm jealous of all the supplies and shit that she has. they're all going to waste though, knowing that holly isn't talented enough to use them properly and will probably throw away the supplies because they didn't work for her is sad.
>>348811all of her money that she used on art supplies could have easily gone to funding for an apartment or something. she should stop buying useless shit and move out already.
No. 348846
>>348811I literally did exactly this, its not hard to train a dog that has been badly brought up nor is it hard to save to move out when you have a money flow (like she does) all it takes is a little patience which we all know she lacks :/
sage for blogging
No. 348857
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>>348319you can take Holly Brown out of the filth but you can't take the filth out of Holly Brown
No. 349268
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Her comics are fucking boring. I cant stand here bitch attitude. She act like she's some professional artist bitching about other people's art, but when ppl does it to her she goes nuts be petty and make a rant video
No. 349631
>>349624That really sucks… Make sense really especially by seeing how HC talks to the dog like it's garbage.
Despite what HC says about herself I bet she's really lazy. There's a video where she's in her mother's kitchen and that looked filthy too.
No. 349954
>>348311Her room is a fucking pigsty. That overflowing trash bin, stacks of boxes all over the place, just clutter fucking everywhere. Her room probably smells like heated up dog piss because no doubt she probably doesn't clean it up.
Is it just me that really hates the way she says gouache? Like, its not necessarily the wrong pronunciation but she still makes my skin crawl when she says it.
sage for rant
No. 350624
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Holy sht she's an asshole, can't take critism and bitch about it online, she needs to be told that her art is garbage till she stop being such a denial trash
No. 350711
>>350590Sage for unimportance but her art is really good! If it had some more substance and theme it could definitely be considered into calarts
Definently a refreshing look when compared to holly's stiff and unskillfull shit.
Holly really does need to learn the basics before developing a style since once you know how to realistically draw you can play with the figure and distort it in an asthetically pleasing way while still make the character look "correct" in a sense. I don't think holly ever has really mentioned life drawing classes for models or architecture which is ultimately her downfall here. You learn the basics, study for the genre of art you want to create then after years of practicing and maybe under the hand of a mentor you execute and produce the art you've been learning to properly create all along…
Holly literally just jumped straight in, shat on all the other steps to produce quality art and then has the nerve to get upset when someone points it out
So yeah, watching this person's video is so much more refreshing especially considering how humble and excited she's being about art. You can definitely sense her passion for what she's doing here.
Sage for rant but I hate people like holly who has no consideration towards the amount of work one has to go through before they can even make a living for themselves solely on their art and comics/graphic novels alone.
No. 350876
>>350711I like her videos, she has a 'idgf' attitude but she isn't a cow like Holly. She actually did get into Calarts and is currently on an internship job at Disney.
(Sage because it's not about Holly Cow)
No. 351338
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here's some art from a week ago
his right foot looks like it was drawn backwards and what the hell is up with that face jesus
No. 351462
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>>351338
>his right foot looks like it was drawn backwards IT IS backwards
No. 351612
>>351338they say life inspires art, but i'd like if her art inspired her life with this
the backwards foot is just extra killer, like HOW do you not notice such a basic mistake when you're going to render something with as much detail as the tree trunk?
No. 351638
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>>351338his face looks like a veggietales character wtf
No. 351784
>>351638I knew her faces reminded me of something. Fucking LOL.
I am low key jealous at how she's pretty good at colour schemes because thats something I struggle with but I'm now starting to realise she uses a lot of the same colours so maybe thats untrue. I've been seeing this
>>351338 combination of orange and red a lot
No. 351837
>>351784Ehhh, I feel like she does use this color selection as a way to not improve and be like, I KNOW COLOR GUYZ DON'T WORRY cause if you look at her art
anything that doesn't have Analogous Relationship or Complementary Relationship (Which are the easiest to get right, you learn them in elementary school, and also they take up the majority of her artwork ) looks all muddy and not good together, because she doesn't actually understand complex color theory. She's hiding behind the easiest color techniques, which is a bit disappointing tbh If she learned about undertones, saturation, blending combinations, choosing different color pallets so the shading isn't mucky, maybe her painting would be better. Right now it looks super basic.
No. 354931
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>>354925Screen shot of her desk. HC is always moving her camra around so awkwardly that I never get a full view of how much shot she has but this looks so fucked up.
No. 355008
>>354931how hard is it for her to just pick up her dirty cups, take them to the kitchen, and put them in the fucking sink? i know 20 steps is a marathon in holly logic but it frustrates me to no end
sage cuz the whole place is a mess im just nitpicking
No. 356074
>>355629All her advice in this will make your work so stiff. She really doesn't understand the importance of gesture. I get taking time to study musculature, but that's not even what she's doing…
Quickly sketch the major shapes. That's it. Hell, tracing the major shapes on to of pictures will teach you way more than what she's doing. She needs to get out of the headspace of drawing what she thinks is there and archive instead what she sees! Stop over thinking it!
No. 356128
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I laughed, because guess what. Bitch doesn't make shit compared to me. Still, doesn't matter if she did make more. Would anyone honestly want to be this miserable bitch? Have fun in your piss stained life, Holly.
No. 356176
>>355629What I find so funny about this video is that when HB was making Purgatory she talked as if she was too good to under draw anything.
For someone who wants to be a content creator who wants to use drawing skills, Holly sure hates the preproduction stage of creating.
No. 356425
>>356074
>All her advice in this will make your work so stiffNo fucking wonder why her stupid characters always look like mannequins.
>>356128And in the end, it's always about money for her, of course. Nevermind improving your art and/or yourself. That's why your comics are shit, Holly dear.
I'll be here waiting for someone to take her place because she can't fucking improve. And then we will see if she'll still be bragging about money.
No. 356439
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>>355629She talks about anatomy when her own avatar in this video has shit like this. Ok.
No. 357027
>>356128yeah you may make money out of your shitty scribbles…
for how long ?
No. 359485
>>359356>what a needed critiqueWow what a fucking bitch. And yet her fan
still bends over like 'I wasn't criticizing, I swear! It was just a question' You don't have to take that shit from her.
I'm actually almost impressed about how much she just doesn't seem to care about being such a huge bitch and having a reputation for biting her own fans heads off at innocent questions and undeserved superiority.
No. 359755
>>359721Holly herself said she didn't believe in doing thumbnail sketches for her comic so why is she selling books for it?
I used to have sheets of paper from Blue Line Pro with thumbnail templates on them for sketching but now I just draw rectangles and fill them in in my own sketchbooks. A thumbnail book really isn't necessary and I definitely would not buy something like that from her. Holly is such a hypocrite.
No. 359799
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Sorry for dragging this up again but idk if this has been mentioned so I'll just say look at mewTripled's video called "My Artistic Journey"… That fucked up wings character she drew isn't even hers lol.
No. 359800
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And looking at Holly's comments on that video just make pity her
No. 359801
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Samefag as the first 2 posts sorry forgot to add
No. 360360
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Also, peep at her ugly yaoi drawing
No. 360413
>>360360how, she doesn't understand anatomy at all. or sex for that matter.
Maybe it's just me but I'm always creeped out by girls that are so into gay sex (and men into lesbian sex). Like… it's not a scenario you'll ever be part of
No. 361333
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I guess that last critique got to her since she did change her sprite. Still terrible.
No. 361397
>>361350>>361352>anatomy mistakes>teeth gums reach all the way to her noseguys…its a cartoon, the only thing thats off is that the arms are still uneven
side note: I think the lighter shading is a vast improvement, its too bad ppl had to drive her into a corner to get her to realize anything was wrong
Holly has a lot of poor tastes
No. 361600
>>361548Pretty sure the ink rubs off after a few days if you make them the way she suggests…
Feel kinda bad for anybody who actually buys it off her shop if this is the case.
No. 361673
>>361548Fucking shrinky-dinks.
I really don't understand how she makes merchandise for a comic that she's barely even started. Also can't believe that people buy this shit.
No. 361830
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bitch is going on about being aware of yourself to improve while being the utter queen of cunty cynicism. she's not going to teach anyone anything if she keeps showing contempt all the time for the people she's trying to give advice to, which is young artists. plus, if she is smart, she'd listen to the well-intended constructive criticism she recieves and know to weed out the others. like a "self-aware" adult would.
>>361818>>361809>>361798>>361744kthnx now get back to holly
No. 361861
>>361600does sharpie ink cure in the oven? like I know if you use it on ceramic it becomes permanent after baking.
either way this is definitely way inefficient.
No. 362058
>>361600I make shrinkie charms all the time to sell.
I wouldn't use sharpie cause it bleeds into the sanded plastic and doesnt have a good blackness to it. Paint markers or paint like markers (a la galaxy marker or even gelly roll) work best. And no matter what material you use you ABSOLUTELY need to seal it with resin cause it WILL rub right the hell off.
I don't think it's a good method for what she's using it for. That shit will DEFINITELY rub off is she isn't sealing it. (and its Holly you know she fucking isn't). If you want to have a more professional charm, just check out acornpress or similar. Don't use shrinkies unless you want it to 100% look homemade.
No. 362138
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>>359800>>359801haha this is fucking hilarious. I'm classmates with the artist that made the video in question and I'm pretty sure we've talked shit about Holly on more than one occasion.
On a related note, months back Holly threw a fit about Calarts and made a bunch of claims about the program that were pretty fucking ridiculous and I tried to call them out about it in a way that wasn't too /aggressive/. She ended up throwing a fit, posted a sloppy animated gif to prove "she could animate", and blocked me before I could get a decent word in. It was frustrating, but honestly I felt more embarrassment for her if anything.
No. 362367
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>>350711MewTripled is a 3rd or 4th year at CalArts, iirc
OLD MILK WARNING:
Back in the beginning of the year, sketchynatalia made a video called "art supplies for broke as hell artists" here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaDD5lsQ0UcIn the video, she suggests using cheap graph paper or lined notebook paper to draw on. TBH, this is semi-common advice at least in animation-student circles to increase your mileage.
ONE DAY LATER, Holly uploads "Cheap Supplies Every Artist Needs" here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKyO_mYHFxYIn the video she ABSOLUTELY rips into the idea of using 'lined notebook paper and shit,' and recommends making your own sketchbooks.
cont. >
No. 362369
>>362367so then a THIRD bitch makes a video later on drawing in a notebook, and ripping into LemiaCresent for suggesting that
kids should skip meals at school to afford art supplies instead of using cheap paper, and holly pops into the comments on this video as well
No. 362370
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>>362369which leads to this exchange in the comments, with Holly being ridiculous
No. 362437
>>362227Everyone at Calarts that's seen her work knows he's talking out of her ass and knows she didn't get it.
If she ever went here she'd get her ass torn to shreds. The teachers here are pretty brutal.
No. 362451
>>362370What's really fustrating with this is despite being a student she still writes comments and post videos about all her art "knowledge" as if she's gotten real work before. (And I mean work as in a studio/commercial art environment.)
It just feels like Holly is playing pretend to hide the fact that she's actually very self conscious about her art. Holly has even mentioned in a earlier video about her not working well with others. So… dose Holly think she's going to make the big bucks on just making her shitty hand made merchandise or will she ever really work in a studio?
No. 363946
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the car looks decent but the head on that man oh my god…
No. 364080
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>>363946The car is super wonky though. It looks decent at first, but when you look closer…
>that front mirror>that front wheel>the perspective is all jacked upReally, I wouldn't be bothered by Holly's shitty art AT ALL (like, I am no Kim Jung Gi myself) if she wasn't such a snob know-it-all piece of shit. Like she never recognises she needs to improve.
No. 364218
>>364080The only reason this thread exists is because of Holly's attitude, nobody would pay too much negative attention to her skills otherwise.
There was a vlog of hers where you can see an address from someone who bought stuff at her store (she acknowledges it and doesn't bother to cover it up when editing), I can't be the only one who thinks this goes beyond being unprofessional into being flat out disrespectful. It's shameful to show this level of disregard for people who buy on your store and support you.
No. 365228
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I just,, don't understand Holly's art. She makes some really dumb and avoidable mistakes. Look at how big and prominent she drew his adams apple. It just doesn't make sense.
No. 365403
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I checked out her website and I'm amazed she thought this was good enough to publish on it.
No. 365730
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>>365367bitch, your elbows are supposed to reach the edge of your ribcage, not your actual hips
fuck me up, did she not absorb anything from her online art school lessons?
No. 365732
>>365228i think shes overcompensating for when people were telling her her arms were too short
can't believe she made a tutorial on proportions
No. 365737
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shes going through all this trouble to redraw all these pages, but all its doing is making them look older
weren't they supposed to be 12
No. 365748
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>>361744Transgenders are a byproduct of gender-dysphoria . . . . a Mental illness. You literally played yourself.
No. 365762
>>365748Sage your OT anon.
>>365228That arm is insane. It's incredible that she can look at something like this and think that looks right somehow. Even his other arm isn't as messed up.
No. 365796
>>365748"Gender dysphoria" is considered a psychiatric ailment, which is a feeling of conflict between your biological sex and your assigned gender - so in that way, yes.
But, a couple important caveats:
Many transgender people have made some kind of switch (surgery, hormones, lifestyle change) and feel no sense of conflict anymore. It would be strange to diagnose someone who is completely happy as mentally ill.
Definitions of mental illness are socially determined, and change all the time. Until the 1970s, homosexuality was a diagnosed mental illness.
No. 365804
>>365796that's like saying depressed people who are asymptomatic when taking medication don't have depression anymore. or a person who takes their thyroid medication doesn't have thyroid disease.
>>365737the fucking glasses on the redraw. it's not a cute stylized thing, it just looks so dumb and her inability to create depth makes it look like he just has shit drawn on his face.
No. 365950
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>>359801Omg, she like comments on every video. This is so creepy.
No. 366610
>>354931what the hell is going on on her Mac? is that a cutting mat?
>>365737why does she bother with ages when she clearly can't draw children at all
I have a feeling she wanted to change the kamina glasses ever so slightly but they went from weeaboo to wtf
she should've just ditched the damn things, does she even explain their weird shape in the comic?
No. 366642
>>366610she just thinks getting rid of them at this point would confuse actual fans of the comic
but she never gives a actual explanation for the glasses bizarre shape canonically, she just says thats how she designed him in the beginning cause she likes anime/homestuck
yet she thoughtfully decides to ditch Damien's sailor uniform for a plaid suit
No. 366842
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I think her fans are legally blind
No. 367093
>>366842"Stop erasing"
Literally the worst advice you could ever give to a starting artist…
No. 367154
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Those arms. Also horses can't splay their legs like that. It's not a ball joint.
No. 367704
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Ironic coming from the girl getting an art degree at a shitty online college.
No. 368044
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the forearm on the girl is too long
im not even gonna comment on the centipeople
No. 368270
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"Snarky"
So that's what you call that…
No. 368706
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oh my god
No. 368709
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>>368706what'cha grabbin there
No. 368728
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>>367704To be fair quiting a shitty liberal arts degree was the best thing that has every happened to me after finding out how useless it was
>got into fitness losing 35lbs>got a job that pays more than Holly>got engagedHolly seemed so straight on "I must have art degree blah blah blah" then gives up on a degree out of lazyiness for an "online degree" is fucking pathetic. No wonder she why her art is awful, she never had a legit life drawing class. She is so dead set on art that she will be too lazy to self improve herself as a human and be a productive civilian.
No. 368729
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what the fuck is going on with her twitter rn
No. 368732
>>368706does this count as progression for fujo holly?
considering this is so hetero-normative w/ tits and a dick
No. 368734
>>368706oh and this actually might be spoiler for her new comic paranormal activity, considering shes talked about hershel being a reddish tan skin tone (even though his face/hair looks totally european)
which is weird considering she was developing a self-insert character to romance hershel
No. 368743
>>368706>>368709Man, look at these mutant, shape shifting, wonky ass tits. Good job, Holly. Doesn't she have tits for referencing? The second drawing looks like the girl had a mastectomy.
Also, when she draws hands, they are almost always the same stiff position. Like she can't draw fingers doing other things so she always draw the same hand and hopes for the best.
>>368728nice humblebragging there
>>368734Native people also have straight hair, maybe he's native?
No. 368745
>>368743>Native people also have straight hair, maybe he's native?oh yeah, thats probably what shes going for
i just remember when she first started drawing the guy he was totally white, and i thought it was just bad supernatural fanart b/c of trenchcoat
so the race change was a total afterthought
No. 368748
>>368743>Doesn't she have tits for referencing? reminded me of when she was talking about how much she loves cute bras in a vlog and showed her bra collection
anyways the boobs, from what i see here, aren't bad they're just drawn lazily by holly which means skritchy lineart , weird grainy cell shading and unhinged shoulders
the nips are spaced nicely
No. 368876
>>368728As far as I know she does not want a degree, it is her family who tells her she needs to get one.
I have to say I admire how much she actually draws/works and her packaging seems to be nice. Sadly the way she acts and the little improvement (and her filthy room) are a big negative thing.
Her older art looked better, even if it was proportionally wrong.
No. 369002
>>368729To be fair it's nice to see someone in the "college-age-girl-Youtube-art-community" who doesn't lick muslim ass just cause my diversituh, most of those other girls seem to have the usual posh girl drama queen who thinks Trump is literally Hitler mentality.
I think someone mentioned that this is partly why Holly gets views, she attracts the non-SJW part of the artist community.
No. 369074
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>>369002So apparently this is the collective
that's some deviantart tier shit
No. 369097
>>368894She just said someone called her 'alt-right' because she had retweeted a muslim video.
Sounds like dumb shit of the person who said that.
No. 369140
>>369110Baylee is a whole other level of sucking. You can tell from watching her vlogs and for what she says that she really doesn't care enough about improving. Her position is a Youtuber, not an artist, and she has acknowledged this herself in some tweet when the whole 'artist block video' controversy went down.
On the other hand, to be fair, I wouldn't say she doesn't deserve to be popular on Youtube because she has played her cards right. She may not put all that effort in her art, but you can tell she puts effort into her Youtube channel.
No. 369188
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After reading this thread I wish Youtube wasn't plagued with "professional" artists. There are a lot of other artists out there who deserve more attention than this, especially shitty people like Holly and Baylee.
On pic related: How old are her characters? 12? Because I think I found her r-18 works of the two somewhere on her other twitter.
No. 369211
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>>369188the black haired one looks like stan smith
No. 369497
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Like I know she's mostly right on this. I'm just bitchy about herself saying she's an artist….or at least acting like she's a hot shit artist or something.
Fuck art schools, sure, especially anything that isn't a funnel into a studio. But seriously, I'm making a fine living as an artist, it just took being good at my job and not being a shitty potato faced bitch that can't make a single career connection.
No. 369697
>>369191That makes no sense at all. You're speaking as if people need art school to draw decently.
>>369487That's true. A lot of the criticism towards Holly is the fact that she doesn't practice what she preaches, but I would say a lot of people who nitpick here fall under the same category. It's always easy to talk shit while no one can check you.
No. 369853
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she really didn't care about making nice lineart when she redrew the first pages, switching to digital shouldn't make your lineart worse
i feel sorry for her patreon backers, i can see a sketch line in the pillow. she uses the mechanical ps brush tool for everything
she changed her character proportions and her thick lines to thin lines all after making the switch to digital
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No. 369860
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look at this shit, subtle window pane on his cheek
im gunna stop posting these pages sry
No. 369864
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>>369862i think she just didn't give enough of a shit to do her normal stylized hands, i mean look at this!
Is this rlly what she got paid 10 grand for?!?
No. 369886
>>369853Those lines are so fucking sloppy. She couldn't hold down shift and make straight lines for the wood panels in the back?
Also, you can see that her final linework is all on the same layer, including the panel borders. That's not inherently a bad thing, but she ends up drawing patterns in the background which aren't cleaned up or finalized because it's harder to erase without mucking up the mid/foreground, like the tiling in
>>369864 and the wood post grains in
>>369860.
No. 370184
>>369886i cannot believe this is what shes gonna get printed
if a comic dosent have any color or values, they should at least have solid lineart
No. 370189
>>369856Those lines sticking out of the panel border are
triggering me, just take two seconds to erase that. jfc.
No. 370248
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this is from her overblending video
she treats her fans like garbage
more pics to come
No. 370271
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>>370257So basically as you'd expect, her fans are just as much of a human diaper as she is
No. 370459
>>369939This might be reaching, but does anyone remember DonnieDraws? She was in this podcast and a few others. Back in June she renamed her channel but shortly quit youtube afterwards
In this video she says she received harsh criticism from one of her friends that sent her reeling, thinking thats probably Holly
>at 4:00 minute mark No. 370473
>>370459I thought the exact same thing, she even changed up her painting style and doesn't really draw yaoi anymore
Both Donnie and the underaged one cling to Holly, so I can imagine Holly's giant ego and awful attitude interfering with her frienships. But who knows
I will say as much of a uggo fujo Donnie was, her art was actually better than Holly's, especially anatomy wise
No. 370498
>>370473is her art better? All the stuff I've seen from her just shows me she just draws page after page of headshots w/ the same stylized proportions
And then slaps on some muddy watercolors
>>370479bruh, I don't even think shes still friends w/ either of them
i don't think she has any internet or real friends now
No. 371667
>>370498Donnie seems to have a better grasp on anatomy but she's obsessed with shotas and doesn't seem to draw anything outside of the same sambo-lipped little boys. Imagine if this was some dumpy, downsy looking dude filling sketchbook after sketchbook with the same uguu loli face over and over on youtube livestream.
She and Holly kind of deserve each other.
>>370623She mentioned a few months ago that youtube's first payment to her was 4k, which she proceeded to spend on a new computer and cintiq, among other expensive crap. She's supposed to be a 'struggling' college student but she sure doesn't know how to handle money. This poor money management is going to bite her in the ass very soon.
No. 373476
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The return of potato heads
No. 373495
>>373476does not look that bad actually
the head on the top right is nice
No. 373538
>>286955I'm kind of excited to see a thread on her. She draws quite amateurishly with not much interest in real anatomy, perspective, light, yet makes videos on all of these. Attitude's even worse. She's borderline aggressive at times and can't handle criticism. I don't understand where she gets the following from.
(Yes, I can draw better)
No. 373685
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>>373616posting your art onto/getting recognized on this website is not a good look especially if you want to be a professional. plus it derails the entire thread
so please people, stop doing this
No. 374026
>>373946Is this about what William's wrote in the book about the best animators not listening to music because it's distracting?
It is, Holly. You'll be less concentrated. God damn it.
sage for salt
No. 374060
>>373946Why not go with a pomodoro style then? I don't know, too many people think that they can multitask but scheduling breaks to watch videos means you'll get more done/accomplished from each activity. You'll actually take in the content of the video and you'll get more out of your art.
In addition, I'd say it's more important as a self employed person because you're getting paid for work quality rather than by the hour.
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ew.
No. 374400
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It all makes sense
No. 375384
>>375250mygoddd
around 6 minutes she starts talking about how she has a movie in her head whenever she listens to musicals "Its weirddd, guys." Like hundreds of people haven't been doing that for months on yt already
and then goes on to say she dosent like some of the animatics shes seen because they aren't accurate enough and thats not what she sees??
No. 375392
>>375250What are your guys' thoughts on the effectiveness of this challenge?
I've completed sketchbooks fast by drawing 5 (front and back) pages a day and I stopped doing it because I don't think it's the most effective way to learn. When you're rushing to fill a sketchbook you'll probably end up just mindlessly drawing, and that doesn't do much towards improving compared to deliberate, focused practice.
Of course it's still better than to not be drawing, but it's better to work smart than hard.
No. 375394
>>375392>it's better to work smart than hardI actually agree with this. After seeing Holly's work I noticed that she preferred keeping and sticking to her style rather than trying out making it realistic. For me it would actually help her improve.
The effectiveness of the challenge depends on the person, really.
When I practice like anatomy or figure drawing or example, I usually open this YT channel called croquis cafe (or reference books/photos) where you get to see people pose live and you get to sketch them however you want.
A day after I draw/sketch, I look at my own art and give some self-critique and look at the mistakes. Even better if you have an art mentor/artist friend who is familiar with the fundamental critique them for you.
No. 375398
>>375392It'd be really useful for gesture. You wouldn't end up with a pretty sketchbook like Holly would want, but it'll get rid of stiffness. You'd end up with a bunch of scribbles.
(Video related)
No. 375580
>>375453Can you post an example of her learning from her mistakes? Because I see the same mistakes by her over and over and over again. I even messaged her in a friendly way with a reference picture and she said "whoops, next time" and low and behold it was wrong again.
She's not doing what she's preaching. But yes, she's dedicated. Her attitude is just the worst and she can't take constructive criticism.
>>375466I think she said she's dyslexic? She definitely has issues with spelling.
No. 375801
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>>375797Fucking shit, this video is so frustrating because she is legit too dumb to understand the sketchbook application process?
Yeah Holly, if you're gonna apply to CalArts or any Uni, you don't send a sketchbook with just anatomy studies or just finished/inked pieces because that wouldn't show your work as a whole, like you yourself pointed out? How is this so difficult to grasp? You send a sketchbook with different type of shit you do, especially gesture and stuff that, y'know, show that you understand 3D forms and can animate, since CalArts is a fucking animation school.
God, I am as salty as her rn, only for different reasons.
No. 375841
>>375797Based anon for the reupload. I love this video. She's drowning in her own salt.
>"a sketchbook is to practice">then talks exasperatedly about how people pour their heart and soul into sketchbooksThey want to see your mistakes and how you solve them. In her own words, it's for practice. Polished pieces are what your portfolio is for. That anatomy sketchbook would've been better, though her anatomy is trash.
No. 375851
>>375842Same here. I've been lurking Calarts submission videos since 2014 and so far I haven't seen one of hers.
I remember reading through the comments in the calarts rant video that she tore it apart(?) when someone asked about it. Weird that she says that when she claims she got in to Calarts. Makes you think.
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No. 376695
>>376693(Fuck im so dumb, accidentally uploaded the screenshot that wasn't cropped out and now I can't delete)
Holly's new video where I'm not sure if she ironically drew that hand horribly or she really sucks that much