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Most well known for her cal-arts rant, where she bitches about how hard it is to get in while claiming to have gotten in. Also known for giving shitty advice to impressionable beginners.https://www.youtube.com/user/hollyistotallycoolhttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgeEynuhGskPjgNR5DjbZmwhttps://www.instagram.com/h.c.brown/https://twitter.com/HCBrownart
Mirror of aforementioned Cal-Arts rant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvnD-9XOs5k
>21 year old "freelancer" (lives at home with her mother and runs an online shop selling ugly art)>Salty Youtube fujoshi artist that claims that her art is superior because she went to an online art school>Constantly preaches that art takes hard work, claims to always practice and study but her art hasn't improved in over two years>Whines about being a starving artist with no money, yet has enough money to buy a new Mac computer and a Cintiq tablet within the same week, then sold said cintiq because she got sponsored for her shitty shitty art>When faced with genuine criticism, she replies with "it's my style hurrr get over it!!">Whines about nobody buying from her online store, but when people do, she whines about having to package and ship off her items >Pandering to the Musicals crowd to get more Youtube $$$>Claims to be the only non tumblrina artist and is a textbook tumblr fujo>Generally insufferable and shitty person
In the previous thread:>Completely fucked her reputation, lolcow threads appear first when you google her>Wants to draw shitty porn because it's "easy money" ends up creating horrifying bondage comic with her gross OCs >Organisation around her "doujinshi" is confusing as fuck, none of the artists involved know how they're going to get paid, gave them insufficient time to send in their participation, does an infinitesimal part of the job>Still making new projects when she hasn't even finished one of them yet >More Fujo than ever>Now thinks she can critique and correct the art of her fans>Just makes it worse lol
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you know how youtubers usually keep it on the low low if they receive free stuff from companies? not holly BRown
Well at least she doesn't hoard them
When is she going to make that critiquing video so I can possibly submit something, I genuinely want to know what ol' Holly Brown thinks
There's really nothing bad about being jealous of someone's undeserved success. It's just something people invented so they can write any critique off as "jealous haters" to feel better about themselves.
I see your point, though. Being jealous of Holly is a waste of time, considering the trainwreck her career has become. Sage for OT.
Yeah, having her age wrong on the past couple of threads really bothers me still but honestly who reads that shit?
Also, I wonder which company sent her the tablet this time?
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sage for ot but the "ADULT MEGAXX" bag from the last thread is, I think, meant to be pic related, a local adult store.
it used to be called Adult VIDEO Megaplex, but nobody buys videos anymore.
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considering what this character went through….
idk I find this in poor taste
sage for blog post
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guess she has been reading these forums , it's funny because she'll say she's not bothered but then go on a 30 minute rant in a vlog or some shit .Theres a reason why there's 8 threads now .and it seems that hollys gonna stay in the echo chamber for a good long while
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thoes stupid fucking glasses + poorly drawn whistle are making my brain parse his expression as this
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She’s been to busy sleeping
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are you kidding me? another project? plz don't do all might like this holly
All Might has gone through enough
I do wonder which version of All Might she'll do, but at the same time I don't wanna know
With 'muscle form', she'll probably make him look wonky and lumpy since she has no idea how to draw muscles.
With 'true form', she'll find some way to fuck him up. Really bad.
It's a lose-lose situation and I'm scared to see how it'll turn out.
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I hope she doesn't give All Might that upturned nose she draws.
I was going through her tumblr to check if she had posted anything about the zine, but I found this instead along with some asks about her ships, and how "just because there's two guys next to eachother, doesn't mean its gay". Nothing about the zine yet.
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I'm guessing Holly probably ships these two
Same, as much as I despise Holly I really do hope she stops doing this to herself, especially when others are involved like with the zine.
On that note, any news on Clever Kitchen?
Haven't seen anything about it yet. I actually forgot the last time she's updated it, has it been that long? Maybe if she didn't start so many things at once I would remember.
And I have to agree. I wouldn't say I feel bad for her, I have more sympathy for the people who participated in the zine and possible people who make the mistake of working with her in the future. But I hope she changes.
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It sounds like the zine participants are still waiting to hear from Holly… no surprise
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Pretty sure she's freaking out about the hole she's dug for herself.
You may be onto something anon, I have bipolar disorder and I see some of the behaviours I used to have before actually trying to treat myself in Holly.
The piling of projects, not sticking with any of them, the cycles of productivity, being unable to properly plan and schedule.
Holly has a major problem in that she doesn't interact with anyone face to face which can be really bad for your mental health, especially if you are bipolar.
Say whatever you want about physically going to a school, but the component of interaction with other people and receiving critucs face to face make you unable to live in a bubble like she does.
Also the absolutely delusional way in which she carries herself, thinking her art is, for example, on par with lucid, while at the same time hating herself, it is all very familiar to bipolars.
She says she has depression but I would bet on bipolar disorder, the fact that she lives in a dome, isolates herself and hasn't any irl friends or interactions is obviously having an impact on her life and work.
But the thing is,you need to actually want to improve, and that envolves coming to terms with not being perfect. Take the fat thing. She hates herself because she's fat when I think that she should be honest and say that yeah, she's fat, but there's no point wasting energy hating herself, when that energy can be put to use in other things, such as properly organizing a diet and work out plan. Instead of that she buys a machine to work out that she doesn't need, hates herself, eats clean for 2-3 days and then binges, it's not sustainable.
I really do feel sorry for this girl, she has potential but is so stubborn and is so far up her own ass and waiting for miracle fixes for her life, it's honestly sad.
Moving somewhere or buying stuff isn't going to fux her life.
Sage for blogpost(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
Are you fucking serious? Yeah she sold all her copics on eBay like 3 or 4 years ago because she stopped using them. And like it was said, markers are not lightfast so selling art pieces using them is pretty much a jip.
Sorry to anyone who uses them and swears by them, but if your piece starts fading after awhile because of the medium and you intend to sell it to someone its scummy
Yeah especially when she can splurge on $188 copic markers.
But hur dur she's poor :'(
It was Kasey she sent them to, and Kasey said something to the effect of "it's sad you gave up on watercolor, I hope you can still give it a try". She handled receiving those used watercolors as best she could but I super highly doubt she'd ever use them.
Holly is just trying to find secondhand junk to send off to big youtubers so they can shout her out, like she hasn't gotten an already big enough audience already.
And also, it seems kind of cringe and more out of obligation that the bigger art youtubers have to shout her out upon getting stuff from her so they won't seem ungrateful or some shit.
hell, if I was in that position I'd say "must've gotten lost in the mail" lmao.
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Not that I don't believe she can't do the work, but…
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It was all great until she included her oc like yikes , she had the ball but dropped it .
OK these are gorgeous.
It's tragic when people who can do pieces like this waste all their time on fan art and OCs. These drawings are like a window of what could have been if Holly didnt let her fujoshit nature take over every aspect of her life.
Holy shit, nice one Holly, the colours look nice I'm honestly impre->>614318
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I get the feeling that the angle is making it harder to see the fucked anatomy (that and monochrome is hard to fuck, wouldn't call the colour gorgeous).
Not the worst study, but she's still doing the weird lining the arms thing. I think this has some good bits that pop, but overall… meh.
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>>614585>waste all their time on […] OCs
She literally did two studies from photos. It's a basic exercise and will only be useful if she's actually implementing what she's learning into her original, imaginative work. Holly doing fanart and developing original stories is not the problem at all–it's her refusal to work smarter and develop her craft that is the problem.
Also, fine arts isn't the only way to do art. Illustrators, sequential artists, concept artists are all wasting their time on "fanart and OCs". And it's not like Holly has ever shown a strong interest in pursuing fine arts, anyway. >>614689
I tried to reduce the tilt in perspective by following the sharp cutoff of the studies at the bottom (but couldn't correct the rapist OC). It's not totally correct or anything, but you can tell she was thinking in 2D instead of 3D when it came to placing the facial features.
The way she does shadows aggravates me the most. Everything lacks so much volume and she tries to hide it with the stylized, over-emphasized core shadow, but it just makes it look outliney and flatter. If I were her, I would focus on basic pen or pencil sketches to explore 3D form. This flat, graphic style isn't doing her any favors until she learns how to see things in space and foreshortening.
Forgot to mention but the fanart here >>609049
is a good example of her dependence on stylized lighting. The foreshortened legs on both figures don't look like they're protruding because she doesn't understand how to place shadows and just makes cool looking shapes and calls it a day.
Not to mention her stupid attitude towards using references that amounts to "look at it for five secs and then draw what the heck I thought was there". Imo, what I learned most from picture references was negative space and how to convey shape (especially with the human body, considering how complex it is). Just copying an image to use it for your OC (like that godawful sniper drawing) is a childish view of referencing that doesn't actually teach you anything.
It's like the difference between learning how to construct what you're referencing in a 3D space, and just copying an image you saw once.
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Momo didn't deserve this. No bnha character deserves this. How do you take appealing looking characters and make them worse?
I'm guessing she's talking about the "drama" the creator, Kohei Horikoshi, got in a while ago(which I will admit was really dumb)and/or the fact that Momo shows a bit of skin because her quirk/power, requires it(she can create objects from the lipids in her body) and bnha fans on tumblr aren't okay with that
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leanne-lu didn't say??
that purgatory was a yaoi???
the only thing anon said was how the both of them were fujos, not that purgatory was a yaoi??!!
besides, people sometimes use the term yaoi in a non-sexual way–my old friends used it to represent "male-male relationship". which hey, isn't really right, but holly should know that, being a veteran fujo.
leanne-lu was probably referring to the male-male relationship, and how receptive publishers are to that topic. but holly used createspace which is like self-publishing…
a little rude, considering l.l. started out with "i love you art"
you know what anon, the term "yaoi" has been so interchangeable with other terms, that I just kind of never knew for a fact what it is supposed to refer to because of how nebulous western fans make it. I just thought it was m/m manga/anime content regardless of rating… i mean correct me if I'm wrong, but Holly here obviously doesn't know her terminology.
Her comic isn't even a manga, so I don't know why she's shouting at someone about something her comic isn't.
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So dear ol BRown is thinking of joining the Webtoons contest (make a new comic by July or something). The thing is it has to be new… even if does she really think the writing in Purgatory is sufficient? Her characters are very lifeless and dull, plus that story… oof
I thought it was tapastic, with the scam.
either way, she won't be getting far.
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Wait i thought she was only getting 20 copics + the refills .
This is holly we are talking about. Shes incapable of moderation so now she has to purchase all copic markers available.
Listen, i like markers fine as long as you're not selling the original. But shes going to spend hundreds of dollars on a medium that shes only using in her sketchbook?? Really?
Literally though?? I just got to that point in the video and every other comment she gets about her being a piece of shit, tells her WHY. Every time she reacts to a "mean comment," the point of it flies right over he greasy head. How dumb can she be?
"I don't like being told things like that when I don't have a means of correction." Holly, you are a fucking adult. No one should have to hold your hand and walk you through how to be a decent human being.
Because when she
does it, it's 'speaking her mind'/'being honest'.
These are $50 a pop… Is this idiot physically incapable of not throwing her money out the window?
They're handmade and very nice, don't get me wrong, but Holly constantly complains about money issues, doesn't she? You don't need a sand sanded maple organizer for 20 copic markers, just buy a $12 desk organizer and put it on its side, holy shit.
Also most people in japan commute to work so they end up walking everyday, plus a majority of their food doesn't have the sugar conent anywhere near as high as American food when it comes to the average meal.
Does holly noy realize there's much more to it than just eating sandwiches? Plus they sell pre made sandwiches at bigger convenience stores in america as well including the fact that most people in america eat sandwiches on a daily basis??
Her logic literally makes no sense
I’ll provide it when that other anon who knows holly does….>>618331
She has money but spends it badly…she spends it all on anime merchandise….
What does other anon have anything to do with you?
I used to feel the same way because of a former friend. I finally cut off ties because it's becoming so unbearable to tolerate her behavior. She acts exactly like Holly so I really understand your dilemma.
You have the right to cut her off, anon. Prioritize your own mental health and let her sort her own demons alone. You are not obligated to be her friend and act as her safeguard.
(And besides, we want more milk if Holly gets another breakdown, but I truly worry about your mental health, people like her are emotional vampires)
That's fair. They're not mutually exclusive, but one thing (her attitude) does heavily lean on the other (her progress).
In general though, and being eight threads in on Holly as a cow, I feel like she's the type of person to keep making the same mistakes. She wouldn't be a cow if she just, owned up to at least a few of them. Personally, I can't really see an end in sight.
I went through the same thing with an artist friend and I guarantee you that they won't change without professional help. It's pure manipulation to keep you around and use you as a punching bag with an "or else" consequence. You can gradually end your friendship with her if it makes it easier for you. Talk to her less and less until you aren't talking to her at all.>>618424
Same here, anon. It's not healthy to keep people like Holly around until they get help and actually
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Just realized she corrected it. I have a screenshot though
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Does she have dyslexia? Typos in messages, video descriptions, titles are understandable if you're the type of person to write and post without proofreading, but she makes appalling misspellings in art with dialogue and images with typography. Like that's the sort of writing you're staring at for more then 5 minutes and the mistakes don't jump out at her? She needs to run text through a word processor with spellcheck before she even pulls up the text tool on PS or CSP–it literally only takes like an additional minute.
Surprised that I've only seen one mention of 'dyslexia' in these threads, but I guess speculating about it is
armchair psychology. >>618670>more studies
Nice.>studies that focus entirely on the contour and not understanding perspective or volume
If Holly literally spent just two or three days on going back to a basic egg and wedge mannequin construction, she would improve a lot, honestly.>pic semi-related>>614894>"teens are all asexual and definitely don't think about their looks">implying fictional teens have any sort of autonomy
Not that she needs to hate the author or series or anything, but it's sad she wouldn't be aware of authorial intent or other critical theory if she's developing stories.
Okay, I have returned. I went through every one of the available vlogs and wrote down every expense I could.
I'm still working on adding all her projects, and looking through her twitter. But yeah, this is the past 5 months of expenses she's mentioned in vlogs alone (not including food).https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSL6XKk_K9yMbcvUJylm4aHovK47TAfotTV1N04HjCPX7mTpfyeFlENSNUYtuPsdlqkEPXfznoPq3lU/pubhtml
God has she even used TV Paint since getting it? She had a whole fit about it and used it for like a week. She hasn’t really been touching animation at all since she last worked on Clever Kitchen like a few months back.
This is thoroughly impressive Anon, I could only dream of having the free time to do this lmao. Good work
Off-topic but San Japan really can’t come any sooner, I cannot fucking wait
But hur dur I'm poor and need money guis :,(
It pisses me off to no end, like its like pretending to be physically disable when you can fucking run.
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>>618649>Mentions having her savings drained
You can't honestly mention stuff like savings drained in the same breath you talk about your dad dying when you are out here spending $$$ on your fucking god awful passion projects and tools you feel entitled to buy because you see anything 'mediocre' as nonworkable and trash. Expenses used when a person dies is also very up to you and the funeral industry are low key vultures due to people just expecting others to take care of it then bitch at the cost cause you can't actually be assed to put yourself into the process of choosing burial methods and organizing people together etc. In other news how can she go through three sketches before even reaching lineart and not see the atrocity that is that right arm? Or the anatomy as a whole but come on! ITS RIGHT THERE. YOU SKETCHED, RED LINED AND
>>618649>says one bad thing that happened was that her savings were drained>Actually bought a washer and dryer for her family >THEN BUYS HERSELF 1.5k WORTH OF BOOK BINDING EQUIPMENT!
also>"Yoga isn't exercise">"hey I took a walk in the park ! I WORKED OUT!!"
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I mean this is what holly calls haters .
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Oops I messed up here the first screenshot
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Oh so now she HATES having stuff she doesn't use enough
Yeah, the problem is in a vacuum she can justify any of these expenses as a business expense. I've looked into all of these supplies for my own art stuff. But then you look at the state of her room, the way she buys stuff is just fucked.
She restocks on supplies she hasn't touched. She constantly is reselling garbage she impulse bought the month before. She buys large orders (just multiples not even wholesale) of things she hasn't tested. She doesn't take care of things and they end up broken.
And she's got a serious amazon addiction. They've got her hooked with the free shipping after a certain price thingie. Instead of waiting to have enough stuff to order, she just loads her cart with crap.
Since she reads here sometimes, my advice would be to detach her credit card from her account. Throw it into her trash pile of a room, and dig it out whenever she actually need it. I honestly put my SOs credit cards behind the bookshelf so he'd have to take every book off the shelf before he could use it. Now instead of debt we have a savings.
And in the latest video where she's like "I buy stuff to make me happy." No. You buy stuff because it gives you a hit of dopamine. Fine new ways to use stuff you already own. Find free activities (like bitching on lolcow, kek).
Anyways, I'm the autistic anon that keeps doing cost breakdowns. I'm basically doing hers while I do my SOs. Scowling at artists while showing them numbers is 50% of my life.
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>>619378>I've been thinking about this decision for awhile
But apparently doing absolutely no research because a 2 second google search would show how to xfer files easily between ipad and PC. It's like she's incapable of helping herself.
Is this the Huion she was just sent a week ago or a different one?
Tinfoiling but maybe she's trying to sell off her tablets because she needs to pay off the artists for the zine that she can't be fucked to complete?
It's more likely that she just wants to buy some other jumped up art supplies, but the total silence on the zine situation is damning.
She mentioned that contract said that she has to keep the video up or she would have purged it?
I don't think she's under any obligation to keep the tablet. A lot of people usually do giveaway things with this kind of stuff though…
Same here, anon. It wouldn'tve been so bad, if over 100 artists and the promise of money (however small the amount) were involved. This could've been a 'for fun' digital e-zine (then distribution would've been 100x easier) or for a cause (one that's not the "give Holly Money fund).
I really feel like this devalues and disrespects the artists involved's time and efforts. That's what she gets for taking on too many bullshit projects.
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Holly you are the least qualified to answer anything about same face.
Wait what, big or small pupils are not supposed to be a distinctive feature, pupils enlarge and shrink depending on how much light there’s around. Maybe she meant the iris? But even then there’s no significant change in its size from person to person.
She has such an anime approach to things, I can’t even—
instead of talking about shape faces and silouetes she takes a more Mr. Potato face aproach and just mix and match random features in between like…2 face shapes??? god somebody get this poor tumblr usser actual good advice
(also sorry for weird english)
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speak for yourself bitch
It's official, this bitch has lost all touch with reality.
Hey Holly, why don't you set a goal to FINISH THE ZINE since you're such a ~goal oriented hard worker~
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I think she means she's going to make a new paypal email to connect to a seperate store so it won't mix with her personal/own business account. Though idk why she waited until the art deadline do that.>>620287>>620290
The advice is fine, too bad she can't follow it herself lol.
Slightly ot but does Holly have any actual friends? In her advice she says to get a supportive friendgroup but I doubt she has any herself?
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Let's see where this goes!
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C'mon BRown I wanna prod the bull!!!(cowtipping)
she said in one video I forget that she go t burnt out with animation and "its not her thing"
so there you go no more clever kitchen or Hamilton animatic or Hamilton book
she literally always does this shit!
Anon has she updated paranormal plauge OR purgetory recently ? besides 1 page every 3 months ?
This is bad advice in general but its understandable Holly thinks this way given her strong background in drawing 'anime'. If anybody on this board is reading this and has the same problem with same face my advice would be to actually go out there and study different faces irl. Drawing from life will lvl up your art a lot faster than drawing heavily stylized pieces all the time.>>620265
Holly, the school is giving you an opportunity to learn how to save your own money by teaching you accounting. You complain about how you don't have enough money all the time so please at least make the effort to take advantage of this opportunity. >>620287>>620290
This isn't necessarily bad advice. If you have no money to do art you should just start grinding fundamentals with pencil and paper until you can save up better supplies. Also, there are companies out there like Huion who sell decent tablets for pretty cheap if you want to dabble in digital art without breaking bank. >>620760
True but its still dumb tipping a cow publicly because that's just going to bring a bunch of fans to the forum who are going to disrupt everything and no one wants that.
She was supposed to work on interior graphic and shit while waiting for the applicants to send their pieces. She had like what two months? Once you have your layout you can easily place the pieces in indesign with just a couple of clicks- but no, she has to wait until the last minute to start doing the basics for a project SHE wanted to make and that she rushed people to finish in time.
She doesn’t have ONE professional bone in her body.
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So is it the case that the artists didn't even get an email that says>Thanks! got the submissions, i'll edit it together now
or are the people hassling her just random trolls who are out of the loop?
To add to the point about tablets. I've never bought a tablet new. Decent non-screen tablets are really easy to find on craigslist and kijiji for half price. And a lot of them are mint because a lot of people find out they don't like using them.
My advice is if you want to get into digital art, buy a tablet in the $25-50 range used. And then buy clip or SAI. If you're a kid that's a pretty easy ask.
And traditional? Start with paper and pencil. After that I honestly think it'll cost you way more in the log term.
people have been making art for ages and beginners have never had a problem to start drawing, i don't understand why that is even a discussion now.
that being said, i remembered holly's 'beginner art supplies' video where she lists off "cheap" art supplies for young artists and it was just absolutely ridiculous. if someone wants to draw they can make do with a free pencil from ikea and printer paper.
she's so obnoxious.
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Hey Holly, it might just be my opinion and you’re not likely to care but this is not a cute look. At least do something about those roots please! jfc
I hope people don't start bitching about her "potato face" again. She can't change the shape of her face.
For her hair, however, she needs to brush it wet and throw in a curling cream or a leave in conditioner. At least an anti frizz spray, come on, holly.
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This. There's no excuse for her hair being a rat's nest.>>620954
You're dumb as fuck Holly because you don't get thin from exercise alone, but eating habits too.>>621035
Exactly. She can't say anything without including everyone else.
"Artists can't do math we're too dumb!"
"I never lost any weight with yoga, and no one else will either."
"I can afford fancy art products, everyone can!"
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nice legs slenderman.
Good to know that she has time to do this when she should be working on the zine.
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Work smarter not harder Holly.
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have you all seen her comic, last I've seen its 285 pages of pure gold
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This comic has been slowly degrading into absolute shit – the combination of stiff poses and line art in these panels is overwhelming to say the least.
ahh, the chin phase >>621008>weh weh proven results
literally all she has to do is google "yoga weight loss" and see tons of articles and before-afters of people who lost weight with yoga. i swear to god this bitch has never googled anything a day in her life.
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If anything Holly's art is all the ammo art profs need that manga influences are shit. Her style is a horrific amalgamation between anime and cartoony because she refuses to apply any fundamentals to it because she's so hellbent on doing what SHE wants and thinks is good, and not what's proven to work. And considering how result oriented she is you'd think she'd take the fundamentals a lot more seriously.
(disclaimer: not saying all artists who use manga for influence are trash, but that's because those artists also apply basic anatomy and fundies…2 things Holly can't/won't do.)
Kek how slow is she biking? At 3 minutes a km I burn 500 calories an hour and I'm 125 at 5'6. Maybe she should try harder since she'll burn alot more calories being at a higher weight.
Holly if you're reading this: go on bike trails where there are hills and get a tracker that actually tracks your heart rate and shit like bike speed, elevation gain and descent to accurately track how many calories you're burning.
Because if you really are biking for 2 hours straight and not even burning 600 calories, you're doing something wrong
OT, but to the anon who screencapped this, your font absolutely sucks.
On topic, she just made a video saying "hm maybe I shouldn't
shit on other people's methods of improvement/enjoyment, but then goes "hm Idk I think yoga is pretty BS!"
She just can't help herself, can she?
Some types of yoga require you to hold up your own physical body weight for a prolonged period. She doesn't have the right to speak for anyone on anything.
She needs to learn to stay in her fucking lane if she doesn't know anything about a subject unless she was willing to learn it.
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She would just bitch and moan about how it hurt and make fun of the yoga instructor. Because she's a cunt. >>621356
The hair, eyes and expressions are what scream animu to me. ESPECIALLY the hair.
And what the fuck is this face
seeing that poor angelfish, just no.
like if you aren't gonna care for it and do basic shit like water changes, caring for the aquatic plants, and such then don't have a fish. They aren't "disposable" or as easy as people make them out to be. Her tank reminds me of those tanks you see when looking for second-hand fish tanks on Craigslist. Gross and crusty.
She's lazy as shit. It would be more of a surprise if she did
take care of the fish tank.
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Im sorry Holly but creative freedom means NOTHING if you're not getting enough money to survive. Stop shitting on people that are successful in a field you could never enter
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so BRown only expects/like men with thin lips? I mean to each their own but this probably explains why her same face is so bad and why all her men look like lifeless planks of wood
well thats a great way to say 'I hated to draw the Hamilton characters and anybody that isnt the ugliest white dude I dont enjoy drawing' I usually dont freak out over small statements but Holly seems to to just shit out any idea she has even if it doesnt coincide with 99% of the actions, >Draw Hamilton Animatics & obsess over the musical as a whole >"I just watched hercules and hes the only dude i like with pronounced lips idk lol idk"
I guess all those failed drawings of poc's have gotten to her and shes giving herself an exit to draw characters with any real physical traits, just plain thin lipped, dorito chinned, smirking, brow raised, cockeyed fugly men.
(I mean how many exscuses can you make to not switch up your character roster / get better period. Just deny yourself any chance to grow that'll make money)
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What is that ?
Is she even trying anymore?
Look at that shit~!
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thats because you know you'll never make it into mainstream holly !
stop kidding yourself
I sincerely hope that people call her out on her bullshit, it's almost July and she's been doing literally everything else except working on the zine.
this is so disrespectful of those artists' time
I'm in this damn zine and if she doesn't go through with it I will drag her
I feel like she thought it was a good way to get a quick buck.
She should be working on the shit for her conventions coming up.
This feeds my soul.
Thank you anon.
You can tell she was never serious about this to begin with, probably did not expect to even get this far, and now that she has to actually do work, she's radio silent on it.
All 'cause she was mad her wonky-ass animu art style didn't get her into a damned FMA zine.
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Just as bad in print as it was digitally.
>Everyone else is selling their prints at this reasonably standard size, so I'm going to make mine BIGGER for NO REASON. I'm unique.
Holly, having "better" things than other artists does not make you a better artist.
And the coloring on that is so flat! The abuse of gradient shading does not give it any depth whatsoever, it just makes it more painfully obvious how 2D it is.
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Nah fam it's your who needs to chill
Autistic expense sheet anon here, got you covered. Not sure what is finished of some of it.
- PP Acrylic charms
- Hamilton Zine (not happening, no way)
- Prints (you can basically get the full list in her store)
- True Colors Zine
- PP Sticker Sheet
- Dead Girl Sticker Sheet
- Anime Objects Sticker Sheet
- SU Sticker Sheet
- BNHA Sticker Sheet (2)
- PP Chapter One (Sure thing.)
- PP Pencil Case
Possibly more, this is off the top of my head.
I wonder how many of her fans are local…Honestly this con couldn't come sooner. It's going to go so badly for her, the prints with fan art are obviously half-assed, and nobody cares about your OCs with barely 10 pgs of work.
She's going to be sitting there just being self deprecating probably. She'll honestly be passed up and if anyone bothers to google her name, the first thing that'll come up are these forums.
interested in if she'll manage to make the zine by then….
I wonder if part of the reason why she's slow on completing putting it together is cause she has to look at other people's art and she's sitting there kinda hating on it.
Honestly? That’s the base for pretty much every job though. I can’t see her lasting long enough with her “porn comic” alone, and sooner or later her fan base will grow out of her.
She looks appealing to young inexperienced kids or people who want to support her “honest opinions”, but it’s not going to last. Life is making sacrifices, working hard on things until you make it, and she has no idea how to stick to a goal.
Nobody likes to be told around, pretty much everybody wants to be their own boss, and I do understand the appeal of working as a freelance; but you can make this choice without shitting on studio jobs, especially since she doesn’t have any proof backing up how much it sucks.
She’s always like this, she shits on everything she can’t have; and if by chance she manage to get what she wanted, it’s now the best thing ever and everybody else is stupid.
I wish she didn’t get e-famous at all, that would teach her a thing or two.
Not understanding that anime alone won’t bring you anywhere especially in art school is so idiotic I can only picture kids moaning about it.
You can have anime influences and do whatever the fuck you want, but they’re not going to judge you over how many shitty controversial videos you make; your school will judge you for your real skills, and they’re tucking lacking.
Study instead of moaning, then apply what you’ve learned to your horrible animuh soulless puppets, and you’re done.
Holly “people are so sensitive nowadays!” >unfollows people she likes cause she can’t stand seeing a different opinion than hers
Sure Holly, it’s everybody else that’s super sensitive. Your skin is as thick as metal
God she’s so such a hypocrite.
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I kind of see her point but fat prople with appealing fat distribution do exist.
Hourglass figures tends to keep their shape even when they gain weight and tend to have a slimmer face up until a certain weight. Same goes for the pear shaped girls, fat distribution is a thing and it’s diverse from person to person. Yes people tend to draw more hourglass shaped girls or pear shaped girls but that’s because usually it’s what’s most fun to draw to certain people because it results in a more stereotyped feminine body.
And it’s not like apple shaped girls are not drawn at all. It’s like complaining about people not drawing girls with sharp features or huge jaws or stuff like that. They draw what they like to draw, if they prefer a pear or hourglass shaped, it’s STILL not the ideal of beauty if you add more fat than what “society” wants.
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forgot to add the image like a dumbass
holly has such a weird aproach to studying.. she'll go outside and take photos then draw them as studies, i mean, photo references are fine but i feel like she should train her eyes to transform a 3d enviorment into a 2d picture. For example, robin clonts did a video about that same subject and she is a really good painter but even she had this problem since her eye wasnt used to it
holly you lurk here so please: try to go to actual figure model sesions and draw on the outside, not just photos, try to understand that stuff has volume and isnt just a play set up with carboard trees
but then she can't spend her hard earned money on dumb shit, anon, what kind of advice is that!
investing in actual figure drawing sessions,
psh. Get Real. /s
that dick looks so weird i bet she just uses her dildo as reference kek>>623853
you meant baylee.. but granted, if someone were to fuck any of them it would be in pitch black
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I really don’t hate her paintings at all, her traditional paintings are of course flawed but I much prefer them over that thin lined gradient shaded garbage. This isn’t completely awful either, she just gotta brush up on some Marco Bucci or something. Learn that shit’s got form and the figure isn’t a carboard cutout.
… But we know she’s not gonna do that, so fuck me for trying to be optimistic w/ Miss BRown :(
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I may just be dumb but has this always been there ?
I'll accept if I just didn't pay attention?
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>joins an overpriced gym just to use an indoor treadmill and maybe swim
Great waste of $129 can't wait for her to play on the machines. Also if she were to start lifting anywhere that's not planet fitness, she would be approached by other gym rats telling her she is doing something wrong and will might feel offend and quit
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Can't fucking wait for her to vlog about this
Yeah, no, sorry, your personality isn't likeable enough and you aren't chummy enough with anyone to be calling them 'sluts', hop off.
I swear, sometimes she tries too hard to sound like other artists like Mewtripled but it falls flat cause she's fake af. Already done with the video, shitty way to start it off, tryhard.
Terri Delgado is a dumbass for wasting $200 on Holly's flighty dabbling. You don't help someone drop over half a thousand on a damn program she's never gonna use after it's all said and done. She sounds so ungrateful.
And I love how she was saying that the people who do the storytime 'animations' should move to TVpaint, but like, they literally don't have time to use TVP because Adobe Flash/Animate is easier to pick up and just start using. It doesn't have a learning curve OR the price tag to get started. She needs to stop trying to buy professionalism, then turn around and say she's a 'hobbyist' after figuring out it's too much work for her. Hobbyist is where she should've been ok starting off as, not the other way round.
exactly! theres also a learning curve but there are tutorials that are really helpful
i wonder if she didntt like it or just didnt knew it existed, but giving her weeabooness she must know it?
As a matter of fact, TVPaint is much easier to pick up and in general way more intuitive than Flash, and OpenToonz is a big mess of a software that's only really usable by the studios used to working with it (especially since they have custom plugins to work with) while it is very much hard to use for anyone else.
Not that I want in any way defend Holly's stupid decision to pay to get a TVP license she's not even really using, as perfectly functional cracked versions are available online, but when it comes to hand-drawn animation, TVP really is one of the best and most intuitive softwares you could work with.
Too bad Holly's only ever going to make monstrosities with that.
>>625433>you don’t need videos saying that it’s a good program if it’s what you work on a daily basis at school or in a studio
Yep. It'd be like reviewing photoshop. No one gives out a review of the industry standard
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What a surprise, kicking off about people wanting updates. How hypocritical for her when she has a dogshit attitude herself
What do you expect? You have people infuriatingly short deadlines just so that you could take your time doing your stuff and work on other stuff until you’re close to your convention and will rush the production?
Creating a cover with pre existing pictures shouldn’t take more than a couple hours, knowing Holly’s approximate workflow it took her 30 minutes at max.
She’s putting money out of her pocket, but nobody asked her to? And I’m pretty sure she’s not doing it because she’s a saint or something, and the whole way she’s managing the project sounds fishy (I don’t think she’ll scam people for real but it’s infuriating how she acts towards a project she insisted on doing with other people).
She’s dealing with 100 people? And it’s hard? Really? Thought she was better than other people and thought it was stupid having a close number of artists. So people weren’t stupid, right Holly? They only had common sense and realistic expectations?
Unrelated but god I hate her salads. She showed another two in her new vlog and they look sad and fat and horribly mushy. What’s the point of having a salad if you are filling it with dressing, avocado and bacon? And stop with the “carbs are bad”, ffs, a regular ham sandwich would have been healthier than the crap she’s been eating lately.
This is what happens when you have a consistently shitty, stand-offish attitude and flake at every opportunity, Holly. That shit adds up over the years and eventually people just don't fucking trust you. It's literally your reputation
right now as a person.
How hard is it to understand that if you have countless threads on lolcow forums and countless negative reactions to your online presence, that maybe people don't fucking trust you?
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Saw these comments in her thread
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They responded more
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>>626561>Holly has too many projects it's not her fault you joined the zine and expected her to be competent and being able to prioritize!!11!!
Her white knights are the absolute worst oh my god.
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I used to like her more a while ago. I think she's just as money-hungry as Holly and always looking for a way to make big bucks from her art, and it shows.>>626959
At this scale, I could barely tell Ash and Reese apart…….
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I despise the way she draws hair, it’s so fucking ugly and doesn’t look good at all.
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Don't know if this has been posted before but Holly has a sound cloud.
Ugh, minnie's art is super normie and pretty mediocre.
Guess all these shit artists have to stick together.
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I guess this is why she thinks shes good at art, because shes not as bad as this yaoi artist. Come on holly.
Ot but if Minnie had an interesting real life why doesn’t it show in her artwork? She’s totally in it for that aesthetic cash
and her work is completely soulless.
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Minnie seems just a bit bland. When I watch her videos I just feel an air of pretentiousness? Much better than Holly Brown obv, but I feel like she's more concerned on making an 'aesthetic' than actually improving fundamentals like Holly.
Don't get me wrong she's really nice but I never really gained anything from watching her videos in the past.
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BRown, master comic maker broke the 180 rule twice on one page
also, from what she's shown on her nsfw comic so far, it seems to be playing out as the most vanilla, yaoi ass shit i've ever seen. How is any of it remotely erotic?
great now reese
is about to take flight with that hair chunk.
I can't get over how fugly Reese is. Long horse face (though tbf that's how she always draws faces)? Check. Acne on top of that horseface? Check. Bandaids that give away he has some nasty unscarred wounds in his arms? Check. Douchebag hairstyle? Check. How the fuck can anyone get off to that, especially a fujo audience that values beauty in men? And kek >>623847
is that another backward penis? Who does it even belong to?
with the dorito face and huge yaoi hands is more fappable than that Reese and it isn't even fappable in the slightest.
If the doujin doesn't get more ironical buyers than legitimate ones I will lose faith in humanity. I mean I come here to look at Holly's art for the keks but that character physically repulses me.
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The 180 degree rule still applies to comics, especially in intense scenes such as action, or even a sex scene
I love how she shits on this when her shit looks like this >>627871
the only thing that's missing are the giant hands…Dorito chins and noodle arms are in full effect.
HAHAH WHERE DID THE REST OF HIM GO
but also wow, all of these would be so much better if just from the opposite person's perspective in each panel, the angles she chose actively hide anything you'd want to see in this kind of manga
also why draw bandages all over him if they're inconsistent? maybe he's just shedding them like scales
I don't know why she picked a palette that screams fun and bold and then muted it to dull nothingness for her own piece. Looking through the zine pdf right now and nearly every single other page uses the palette in a much better way… If I'd seen hers unrelated to the zine I'd just assume it was an OC or something.
Other than hers there are a lot of nice pieces in this, tho
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Ultimately, nobody is going to be making as much money as she does after this is all said and done. Having to go through her for copiesof the zine (as an artist) is so ass-backwards, but I guess she just couldn't stand to see all that money go into a kickstarter instead of to her.
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lmao at Holly pointing out her own artwork in the zine, hers looks so out of place
It barely looks like Aizawa
This sounds like a pyramid scheme kek so they have to pay for copies they then have to sell?
Wants the cover to “flow” but has awkward lines at odd angles and off center, and sizing issues. Ugh.
As a professional comic artist who has worked with multiple comic anthologies, this is pretty normal. We get about 10 free contributor copies to do whatever with, and if we want extra books, we have to pay half the cover/wholesale price - usually about $10 per book. Then you can turn around and tell them at the normal price.
It doesn't even seem like Holly is even giving them free contributor copies. This is awful
that would probably mean more contributer copies. but like it was said before, could've been handled better/easier with a Kickstarter. the fact that she's printing and binding these all herself makes this all the more complicated.
Also, I'm looking forward to what ever "QuAliTy ConTRoL" is going to be put on these zines. seriously it'll be interesting having her make and ship wonky, misaligned, altered art work. I feel so much for the artists..
She is the only one who can make these indefinitely, and, one of the few who has the biggest reach/audience. so most of that money is going to be siphoned back to her.
There's some really good art in here. Shame she showed basically every piece in this video. I kind of doubt many people will order it, but people might buy it if she brings it to conventions. I really wonder how she'll split the profits (if there are any).
The bordered artworks are kind of out of place and it seems a bunch of people used white in their artwork while that wasn't part of the palette. I don't get why she didn't tell the artists to edit their artwork before accepting it?
It's pretty shitty the artists don't even get a free copy. I would be pissed if I contributed artwork and 1. don't know if I'm getting paid for the sales and how much, 2. don't even get a free copy.
Same. I love bnha, I love how it explores the concepts of heroes and villains(and anti-villains), the troubles of a world where 80% of the population has powers/quirks and how its exploited, as well as the concept of a hero as a career versus actual heroic individuals. I love the characters, the art, and just the amount of heart this series has.
But just seeing this, makes me dislike Holly even more than I already did. Hopefully the artists at least get a little more in return.
what is this supposed to be? it's so wonky and the composition is awful.
is he meant to be shaving or something? He looks pained.
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(I think you meant >>628471
, but if not please do ignore this anon)
As bad as it looks, I'm guessing he's suppose to be looking at his scar that he got from fighting a Nomu(basically this bird humanoid use to be a thug, who was then experimented on).
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Yeah. Thats not OCD. She says its not "perfectionism" but its literally what it is
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I seriously hope all the good/decent artists band together and make their own zine with their work. Using a professional printing company and a fair way of splitting the profits. And a decent cover. I seriously would consider buying the zine if not for the atrocious cover, Holly’s terrible art and editing, and the sketchy scaminess of it.
It wouldn’t take too much work to get a group of fifty or so people together. And there’s a shit ton of successful zines already out there that used way more effective methods of communication and selling. They can all use the same store/link and then split the total profits. Yeah it’d be a small amount per person but that way it isn’t popularity = more pay.
I’d actually buy a curated version from a legitimate source.
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yea spend 200$ when you could try to find one that can work for 16$- maybe 20$
not even that much. she could spend $5 on a maybelline pencil liner and look up some fucking youtube tutorials.
i’d rather she get the tattoos though, i would love for her to permanently fuck up her face even further.
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i found this trying to look more into it
I find that if you don't do the right care for it then it'll not be to great, but as long as you do as the professional says >>628904
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Thanks for the link anon.
So there are no page numbers and no names of the artist in the zine? How are people supposed to know which artwork was made by whom?
And why is Holly not just giving out the print file so people can print it themselves? There's some amazing art in there, but I feel bad for everyone that participated.
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hah, i have both this problem and OCD. I don't think it correlates much besides like, perfectionists being a little bit predisposed to OCD. but like every fucking person i know who wants to be a production artist is a perfectionist
like it's a little different ruining my sketch books by ripping out a few pages (which so many people do, who doesn't want a perfect book?) than washing my hands until they're dry and cracked and thinking god is going to kill me on the subway because i'm not crossing my legs. But sure holly. It's just PC culture not letting you classify yourself as OCD
sage for a lil bit of attention whoring
Why is no one talking more about this? The only reason I came here is because I'm sick of seeing her fucking comments on every art video I watch. She's so desperate to get popular and have other youtubers notice her, when they probably don't like her anyway. It's also funny that no one ever replies to her.
Sage for whining/irrelevant
oh my god, this is what I'm
saying lmao. she's such a tryhard.>>629316
it's like she just ignored her own rules and drew and colored the blandest shit she could come up with and phoned it into the zine. it looks so miserable and out of place next to everyone else's. her art just straight up isn't fun at all.
This drawing is so weird to me, and its not just how it's drawn. It's just that…it seems so out of character to me??
I don't know, I just wouldn't see Aizawa doing that. Drawing him petting a cat would've made more sense.
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boy do i hope someone points out to her that one of the works is in the zine twice
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hmm ok Holly.
She makes it sound like Holly is doing such a service for all these people when in reality she's trying to make a quick buck and the artists don't even get profit or a free copy smh.
boohoo she won't make another zine, only when she needs money.
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This person is so fucking annoying, they're such a kiss ass to Holly (What's fucking new all her followers are) and her work is boring and forgettable
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I wonder why I can't see the comment ? or it's not showing up strange ?
maybe it's because the videos unlisted ?
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Watching her inj the hair floopies pisses me off.
Theres plenty of things to criticize yaoi about, but holly literally does all the things she criticizes?? One male character that looks more feminine? Check. Wack anatomy? Check.
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Kek heres some comment highlights.
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It looks like everybody is now gonna be claiming that straight relationships are boring and fake, as if every y'all couple isnt the same exact personalities copy pasted into different bodies. Van holly really not tell that she's perpetuating the stereotype of one man being the girl in the relationship? (Ex. Damian/reese)
im not that anon & honestly i think it sounds a bit like yowie to english speakers anyway. I'll agree that it sounds particularly grating when american fujos have only ever heard it from other american fujos.
God she's so full of shit>I think it's bad/dumb that most yaoi has an obvious 'girly/bottom' guy>I think it's more interesting when they're both just men!>Is drawing Hershel (typical manly wife-beater wearing chad) fucking Reese (with long flowing hair and a thin jawline/thin arms)>Literally made Damien look so much like a girl that she pretended she would make him a her if book publishers got mad the story was gay
Holly, you aren't fooling fucking ANYBODY
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I would sage for double post, but oh god, she showed some of the porn comic later on in the video
I fucking lost it when I saw this, it's both hilariously bad and kind of terrifying due to spazzing and blindfolded Hershel. That sound effect of "SLIP!" tho.
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(this first paaragraph is preety sage-y, ignore it if you want it)
i think the point this idiot was going for is more in between the lines of same sex stories being writen exclusively because of being same sex, like how you can find gay and lesbian stories exclusively on yaoi and yuri and romance is for ''normal'' ones or for example if an action anime has a gay couple in the taggs you will find''yaoi'' but if it has a hetero one it doesnt have romance
and of course there are exceptions im not stupid.
Now, if you say this to praise holly for her lgbtq+ representation… dont, people have pointed multiple times how damian and resse or how ever the fuck hes called are such girly delicate men and how she doesnt give a fuck about the story as long as its gay… its like that idiot its making the jump from tumblr to edgy youtube
also…. if you tell me this is a girl id tell you its a really ugly girl but id believe it
god, she really just can't help herself can she.
she really, really really wants you to look at her nsfw comic, guyse.
should be against the fuckin law subjecting people to this shit, I swear. no use trying to justify her fujoshitty habit with her fucking hot take.
On top of that, we have no context for either of these characters. They haven't even met in the proper comic. I get having a spin off of a main comic or whatever…but we literally have no context and last I checked, Reese hasn't even been introduced yet, but he's coming off as this sick fuck who's obsessed with Herschel and it's making him, like all of Holly's other characters, unlikable.
So it wouldn't have mattered if consent was a thing or not, she still has shit tier gay fetish characters in a self-doujin of a comic that's hardly a chapter out that hasn't given us a reason to care.
Her thirsty ass should've made a porn comic in the first place and just skipped the "plot" she tried so hard to pretend she was into.
>>630586>"Like a lot of yaoi tends to perpetuate like this like rape fantasy thats just really nasty like um a lot of the times characters will be like basically raped but its not addressed like rape and its just like why are you saying this is ok?'
that is word for word what she said and its disgusting because its literally her fucking "Yowie" is about
also she said people know her for drawing gay men and I couldn't disagree more.
I agree. In general I think it's a bad idea to draw and ship your own characters if there's no intention of them being like that in the original story. The readers will not be able to look past that, and any other character buildup you attempt will likely be overlooked. Especially considering Holly's rather immature audience.
There's this popular deviantart artist called stressedjenny who did the same with her two main characters. She drew lots of rapey and creepy romantically themed stuff with them and now when she's started the actual comic she made an official claim that none of her previous pictures were canon. Yet her readers are just sucking up every shipping points they can get.
If Holly wants to draw lazy porn she could at least just admit that. She's obviously more interested in that than making an actual worthwhile story.
She’s always know for what she is doing at the moment.
So far she’s been “known” for: brushpens, inking, professional advices(pffftttt), comics,sketchbook, copics.
Like. Come on.
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As a multishipper, I don't get the 'heteros are always forced' thing. Especially from yaoi shippers, who, in the end, put their ships in same superficial cliche scenarios over and over (like Holly does). There's a lot of heterosexual couples in media that are well written and respected. And to think that Holly has the audacity to say it, while claiming herself to be a fan of FMA, where's plenty of hetero couples with very good chemistry.
And I just watched her latest video, those last(?) comic pages are CHEEZY AS FUCK, making your kidnapper a breakfast? With a smiley face toast? Really?! Lol, Holly, you have no right to call out hetero ships on bad writing.
K, but… did Reese know about Hershel's kink BEFORE kidnapping him? Cuz that means he just expected Hershel to have sex with him regardless just because it was his kink. What, was he just gonna let him go afterward if he said no? That's fucked up.
And, if he didn't know, so Reese was just gonna straight up rape him (since he was tied up to the bed
when he wakes up)? Goddamn, Holly, you're really not making yourself look good here either way.
Not to mention, if Hershel really was the type to just like actually being raped, then wtf does that make Reese? Oh right, that makes him a straight up rapist.
Yeah, Holly, a rapist doing his thing is totally hot and worthwhile jerk-off material. Not weird at all that you think this is ok to sell to people and plaster all over your channel that kids and teens watch. (btw, not saying Holly condones rape, she's allowed to write rapist characters like any author, but when it gets turned into fap fodder and she actively condones rape in stories yet does it herself, sorry, honey, that's when you're in the red, morally.)
I mean, on one hand, female characters on TV really do
tend to be written very poorly in comparison to male characters (on average). On the other hand, it's pretty clear that bad media influences or not, Holly has no intention in getting better at writing women. It's a catch-22.
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Holly's changing her Princess character to this. It looks bad
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my new hobby is trying to fix holly's art solely by using paint to stretch/squash.
Glad she changed her mind/somebody told her she was crazy and she’s selling it for 650 $ instead of 900…
It’s still kind of too much imo, since she used it so much and you can buy new ones for cheaper, but yeah.
Totally better than her original price…
But guise how was she supposed to know that ethnic hair doesn't do hair flips??? Her Koreaboo reference books didn't tell her that :( :(
No seriously what kind of texture does she think ethnic hair has??? certainly not the kind that enables hair flips and the only way you could braid it into such a neat long plait is if she had box braids etc and that sketch has no texture what so ever indicating that.
Also overalls???? With hearts O. them? Like what toddlers wear? I cannot with this bitch. She is worse at character design than the 13 year olds who used to draw sparkle dogs on deviant art.
She didn't mention the zine at all. She just really dropped the ball on her good will to people. It's like she wants to do literally anything else but
work on the zine. including redesigning an OC for her barely-started comic.
Her priorities are jacked up. Just because she busies herself with 'stuff' doesn't mean she's actually getting anything done. It's all just busywork…
why doesnt she just get a little something to put her food, that would give her more space since her desk usually has meals
i mean its healthier to eat in a dining table with sheldues for every meal but hey
Yeah it ages her up a lot. I’d give her some slack though as it’s obviously her first time wearing make up at all. She needs to learn what’s flattering and what’s aging her up (for worse). I would totally avoid lining her lower lashes since she kind of have droopy eyes…
Also I feel like she’s totally unaware of what people actually wear, she is going for stereotypes like innocence=overalls and tries to get princess to be girly by giving her a totally white hairstyle? So what, Black people with poofy hair can’t be innocent and cute or girly? I can understand having straight hair, it happens and it’s a choice to chemically stir your hair; she could play with the idea of princess wearing wigs, too; but instead she slaps whatever hairstyle she thinks it’s innocebt and it’s kinda bothersome. She is literally turning the character into a baby/someone you could see play as a “little”. She’s probably not aware of that, but still…
Also I think she was complaining about her previous cintiq being “too small” and now she’s back with a new tablet that’s the same size as the cintiq and it’s okay? Also she had a frikkin arm mount so she could have access to her table/drawing area THE SAME WAY.
Ngl I’m kind of glad she’s feeling better though and that she’s finally doing something to have a clean workspace.
Although you don’t need to have proper storage systems to put away all of your pens…
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How much money did she spend on this small ass collection??
Depends on how she purchased them and where. I'll give her the benefit of the doubt and assume she bought them from a supplier like Dick Blick and that she bought a few of these in packs, since some of these colors look like ones available in blending trios.
Anyway, with all that considered, I would guess this is around $60-$70 worth in markers. That's if
she bought them smart, if not then it's quite a bit more expensive.
The thing that kills me is the damn copic holders. It's such a stupid purchase. About CA$50 for each container, meaning Holly spent $70 on storage for 20-some markers. She can use them for other junk, but she could also buy an organizer from Michael's for $25 with even more space. God, she's an idiot with money.
Right, I had seen someone mention that at some point. That makes the markers and the expensive case even more ridiculous.
There is something really nice about traditional art, so I don't really fault her for wanting to try again. But there are so many cheaper (and superior) alternatives to copics now, so she's literally spending money JUST to spend money.>>633037
On the left bottom compartment, the bottom panel slides out to reveal a tiny space. It took me awhile to figure it out, too.
Why didn't she just put them in an old coffee mug or something.
I mean yeah it makes it look and feel more organized but she could have just made do with what she had to save up her money to move out
She bought something that's taking up the space she claims she wants on her desk.
And with a shelving unit like that you guys know damn well that isn't all the markers she's going to be getting.
Copics are so bulky, pricey and overrated, and she hardly ever uses markers outside of her sketchbook. She keeps making traditional pieces ridiculously big so if she actually plans on using the markers, she's not going to get any coverage out of them.
copics are such a money sink the way she uses them. But if it's an impractical, expensive money sink, then you know
Holly BRown's GOT to have it.
…Only to sell it all off a few months later.
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Surprised nobody mentioned this but I died laughing at the girls deflated ass cheek on the top right corner.
previous anon, and sage for blog, but you're not really that guy; I agree with you. I tried copics but ended up hating how impractical they are for what I was doing and spending. Copics are expensive and not great for learning how to apply colors with. you get much more bang for your buck w/watercolors or almost literally anything else.
does anyone remember the reason she just had to have copics again other than "it's expensive, so I had to have them" ?>>633224
That's another thing she'll have to take into account is spending money on refills, which are also bulky af. I can already see her spilling them or having them scattered all over the place and then complaining that she has no room for it and complaining about spending her money on refills.
For some reason this is a huge selling point with copics because a lot of beginner artists/weebs seem to think that it's an economical 'deal', and 'good for the environment' because you're not immediately throwing away a piece of plastic?
I think she explained in one of her vlogs why she always opted for more expensive brands. Basically she has it in her mind that more expensive brands tend to last longer and she did the whole 'growing up poor' thing, and said 'if i'm going to buy something it might as well last me so when I have the money I get the best thing my money can buy' or something along those lines and that she knows DIY/cheaper brands is a thing but she just thinks expensive= more durable/reliable,
…And sure, that may have been true like 30-50 yrs ago when brands were an actual thing and you didn't have to dispose of things every few months or years, but with things like art supplies, they're going to run out eventually.
And with copics, at this point you're paying for a brand name, and not the quality or practicality of it. So her thinking is very old-fashioned and not practical by today's standards. She just wants it because she can have it, and the way she shows that off is so fucking tacky.
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idk how I feel about this
I wish she would take down her clever kitchen banner since we don't see much of it or if any at all .to match with the cat .But it is better than her other icon.
the fact that the face is not centered is killing me. the whole thing looks like a really sad attempt at "being cute." i hate it.
Also, yes holly please make a related banner if your icon is going to be this lazy cat face.
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The end title for the latest video is clearly not Holly’s hands lmao wtf why
Wait her solution to ripping pages out is… taking them out?
Is she for f*
Also no Holly nobody tells you it’s insane to sketch with marker, that’s basically their main purpose. They’re used to sketch and do quick presentation, because they’re not archival and quicker than other media.
I feel like she did complain about people complaining just to show off her copic sketch…
and yeah I agree, it feels like she only bought them so she could show them in her videos.
I’ve also noticed that she’s trying SO HARD to “cutify” herself and her brand, with makeup, pink hair, cleaner workspace and that new cat icon on Twitter.
Anyway, useless video, she basically used it to show some of her work.
And if she could stop with that “I grew up poor” thing it’d be even better. If you’re poor and you care about your belongings you don’t just waste your supplies ripping pages off.
I feel like this is the problem with the more extreme and annoying fujoshits like holly.
It's like platonic relationships between men CANNOT exist, they HAVE to be gay
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no, shes to busy taking personality quizes
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i've been trying to find videos , I think if some with a decent following can effectively get their point across can make a fair video .
but then again she hasn't had to big of recent drama besides the zine situation which we can see unfolding .
but then again no one would want her name next to theirs , even the video that make good points get more dislikes than likes so not to good in the youtube algorithm so no one sees it .
Yeah he said he had circumstancial depression so he couldn't relate? Tbh I didn't really get that either since he has 'gotten' over it he could have stated some advice or his experiences as well. Yeah she was very self-depricating and awkward and again generalising EVERYONE this time with depression 'people with depression etc…' and when he said Hollys story was 'cute' or something that really indicated that he hadnt read her comic lol.
tbh having Holly on the podcast made the podcast look very amateur because they havent done their research and yeah i agree with the advice lol and Ill check when she says the dumb thing out.
I remember when you searched her name, a few threads back, the first few results would be lolcow threads, but I think she's since managed to scrub it from the first few page results and put up a short paragraph about her as an artist, her twitter about portfolio links, as if that's going to make her look any better. it's far too late for her now.
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Holly's paigee world account has a bunch of old art, it's pure gold.
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didn't see anyone posting this before so
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Im crying, thanks anons, now we found the Jack Frost copy she did of Baylees drawing. She thinks this is better???? Omfg
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If this weren't colored, I would have thought this was GoT fanart. That incest prince face.
She seriously destroyed a boot literally tearing it apart? I am SO mad now.
Okay it could be useless to you but it's a book. Re-sell it if you don't like it (and it looked pretty unread to me anyway. Don't just fucking rip pages off of it because you're so edgy and you like to shit on everything that's not your holy art.
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In which Holly outs herself as a plagiarist on instagram and shows the manga she ripped her OC's from
Thats literally Hershal and whatever the black one with acne is !
Holly you're a cheap tacky fan artist/ tumblr tier artist of course you don't know how to appreciate art or how to speak eloquently about your work. What is there to say about fan art rather than 'oh yeah I ship it I guess'.
Get off your high horse you're a cheap pseudo-cartoonist who will never get into a gallery.
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this page she showed on her instagram story has me gAGGING
There she goes again shooting her mouth off about making a living off of porn art. She makes such a big deal out of it, like, what part of it is 'sad' when plenty of artists do exactly what she's attempting? The difference is they're not being whiny and ungrateful that people are remotely interested in their work.
She needs to get her head out of her ass and stop making a fuss over making NSFW art for money like it's brand new and pretending she doesn't want/like to do it.
and yet she REALLY REALLY wants you to look at it. posting up videos that almost slip pages "ohoho almost saw a dick ahaha can't have that
!" "Oh let me put some emoji over my shitty dick drawings, that'll REALLY tantalize you guys~!"
She doesn't even really deserve the money she's getting on Patreon for the low effort bullshit she's peddling.
She wants to cater to an adult audience who actually has money, but she needs to get good at actually making and finishing anything and lose the teenage edgelord attitude that attracts a teenage audience.
How much you wanna bet she's gonna drop paranormal plague and Purgatory b/c it's seriously not making her any money. All she'll have for SanJapan are some shitty stickers and prints, MAYBE some zine copies, and halfassed merch from a comic barely off the ground. The smut comic is going to have more pages than Paranormal Plague (THe ACTUAL STORY they come from) at this point.
Sage for rant.
Offering a different opinion : Schools usually push you to explain your projects in that way because they don't want students to simply answer "I drew that because I felt like it / It looked good that way".
It prepares you to present your art project to a potential client.
And it goes for everything. I later branched to a more specific cursus and that's how all companies will present any project (especially when it's a tiny thing that's not going to impress a company on its own but is extremely important, ie : sounds bite that will come with a company logo. It's usually 1 second long and maybe two notes so you better talk the shit about it)
Oh no, I wasn't shittalking artist's statements, they are indeed incredibly valuable to understand the intention of an art piece. I was just talking how those artist's statements are often a way to try and spruce up a piece of work that is, frankly, not good. I've seen dozens of people at school half-ass their works, admitting they do it, and then getting stelar marks because they made up some bullshit explanation and the teacher ate it up. Hell, I've done it and got great marks, but I'll be the first to admit the work I presented was garbage. It's sad but it's true and it works better on the most pretentious art teachers lol, not as well on those with industry experience.
But then again this is Holly who thinks every art piece that isn't anime or in a History book is garbage. She regards cartooning/anime/whatever as art because she likes it and regards classical painters as art because someone else told her they're masters, I've never seen her have the curiosity to check out something like avant-garden theater or fashion or something because her view of what art is is very narrow, there's either cartoony, masters or dumbass feminist menstrual blood pieces to her, nothing else.
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This is like when white girls say shit like "omg someone thought I was Asian
, do I look Asian to u haha he he"
Ultimately no one cares and it sounds fake, but ok.
She does this a lot though, usually with art, she comes up with this story that starts off like "someone said ___ to me/a lotta people tell me (insert outlandish/crazy thing here) and obviously haha no
, but isn't that just crazy
??? that someone said that??? to meeee
Like, you know damn well no one asked you that; you just wanted to hear yourself talk.
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For fucks sake just focus on finishing the zine!!! One of the fucking comics. Or the stupid story board/animation. Just finish something lol
(I finally caught up on all of Holly threads and whoo I got a bit heated at the end. So sage for ranting to the bitch).
Many of her passion projects are also short-lived, almost like she's trying to find her love for art again yet failing lmao
Passion projects don't work for most in an instant. She'd have to start off slowly and quit planning several big projects, until she feels ready to tackle something.
Holly doesn't have what it takes for that or for professionalism. She seriously needs to get her head outta her ass and realize that she has all the time in the world to accomplish HER OWN shit, but when it comes down to other people's hard work and time there's no room for playing around.
We all know she reads (re: skims) the threads so here's a little note:
Holly, you hardheaded ass troll, you are so damn lucky these people only joined your shitty MHA zine for clout. How about you take some advice for once, replace your Jordan Peterson book with a self help one, clean your damn room, work on yourself, and THEN go back to your art bc it's clear you don't like the routes you're taking with it. Being a complete ass hat is going to get you no where when it comes down to being a professional artist and eventually your audience is gonna get tired of you being an untalented cunt.
You're not superior in anyway for the amount of art you make in a day or week. And coming from someone who is younger than you, grow the fuck up, and maybe then you'll realize what you'd actually like to achieve.
this is what she should have done if she really wanted to have artists get paid some kind of money to begin with. A PDF copy of a zine is a given for projects like these. that way if an artist has a store they can put it up as a digital download to at least sell for something like at least $5…
but no, Holly wants to be the middleman, and take a little off the top for herself. Bet you she'll sell the fuck out of endless hardcopies of the book on her
online store, and
PDFs too, probably. while she tells the artists
to spend their money and hope
that she delivers a well made product for them to sell. yeah, no, bull shit.
just making money off the backs of other artists. what a scummy move.
yeah… the anon who is in the zine, can you ask for a PDF? Instead of paying her to make a copy then paying for delivery. Its so slimey what she's doing I totally agree with you anon. Lately she seems SO desperate for money, every move she makes is for money (merch, long armed tube people porn zine, controversial videos, this zine), it almost seems sad at this point. In her latest vlog she was having a fit because her 'criminal brother' is now living with them and he doesn't pay rent. Which is kinda understandable but when she absolutely flipped out on her brother in that one stream calling him a 'fucking loser' because he simply opened her door and asked her a question, makes me think that Holly is just using her brother as a scapegoat. Even the Romanian girl told Holly to calm down because how much she was sperging out.
She acts like such a saint because she pays rent and does the washing, like yeah… nearly every adult has to do this. She's not even in full time education. In one of her vlogs her online school 'suddenly' asked her to see her portfolio and she was stressing. They viewed her online portfolio and told her that she needs to do more real life studies… lol I'm low-key surprised the teachers actually asked to see her portfolio or that it even was a real online school considering how many outside projects she has. Shouldn't University be a priority? She can't network lol, and her portfolio is shit.
-sage for rant
ALL POSTS WITHOUT HOLLY's CONTENT PLS SAGE, YOU MUST TYPE SAGE IN EMAIL FIELD (UNDER THE NAME FIELD NO ONE USES) WHEN REPLYING <3
Sorry for caps I just wanted that to be clear for all the new people. I appreciate your sage though. lol
Anyone noticed all of the arttubers seem complacent as of late? Seriously what's a channel that's not garbage? /shitpost
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Oh boy. Also i really dont like the cover at all.
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easy way of getting that texture on a marker piece without having to use the thirstiest paper known to man: scan a blank sheet of the cold-press, and digitally overlay it on the marker piece. this doesn't work for in-person commissions, but seeing as she does most of her stuff online it's a good way of getting that texture on it.
i hope BRown enjoys watching her money get sucked into the paper, never to be seen again.
I don't know anon, I think it looks ok compared to HOlly's normal work.
I feel sorry for the poor sap who buys the copics from Holly once she grows tired of markers.
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Holly she's not purple…
That's right Holly you peddle that smut to your teenage audience.
But wow seriously did she actually
finish something this time? Guess when you're a thirsty ass fujo, gay smut is all the motivation you need, right?
At first when I was looking at her new cat logo, I thought, hey not so bad, better than that wonky name tag she had before but looking at it again, I hate it just as much,
it looks like the cat just got done taking a shit.
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No one asked for this.
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Nothing on the other zine though.
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Why does Holly have to be so fucking pessimistic? So no one can have fun drawing other people’s illustration cause it’s like “free fan art” huh, Holly?
IMO the “draw this in your style” isn’t as much of a challenge as much as a great way to network between artist. Too bad Hollys too good for that.
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Why the hell does she thinks it's okay to film your work desk with your large-ass bra lying around? If she was going for 'quirky artistic clutter tee hee' she definitely failed at that. However, she succeeded in cringe and revolt at least from me.
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There, now y'all can focus on holly and not her bra lmfao. When is she going to make all of those zines??
Please artists, let her know she’s telling a bunch of bullshits about you.
She only had to make sure you all sent the file with the right requirements, and you guys are long done sending her the illustrations so… what has she been doing until now, that can be blamed on having that many people on a zine?
Guys I’m honestly baffled, she’s complaining so much about this thing SHE wanted to do and she’s talking like it’s some sort of impossible thing to do in less than three months, but honestly you can put together a book in one day. You only have to format it, fgs
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Holy shit guys we have 1 copy .
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Ha! I feel bad for whoever buys this zine. Sure there are some good artist who participated in it. But the shitty 'bubble infused' cover, and wonky letter centering and problably many more errors is a real turn off. Also compare the look of the zine in the video versus the pictures (with a shit ton of editing and filters…problably to cover up for how bad it looks in rl)
Anon, those are mockups, not the real pictures of the zine.
On the same note, when will she realize that those look bad and kinda scammy when she uses them to sell her stuff? I understand using them for video thumbnails or instagram pics, but when I want to buy something, I expect the pictures to accurately represent the product I'm byuing, not those cheesy mockups of badly prhotoshopped digital version of it.
Even in regular pics those look so bad to me. Shooting area isn't that hard to make, it just has to be clean. At this point, she could've invested in a good camera and lighting for this purpose, but bying copics and her 100th screen tablet is better, I guess.
Agreed 100%, you don't sell a finished product with mock ups. She's misrepresenting the product she's selling, it's borderline scammy and won't sell her book.
In the zine description it says there's 80 artists but she's been claiming she's been "WRANGLING" 100 people? So that was just a lie I guess lmao
maybe i'm dumb, but wouldn't it have made more sense to have all the copies she can make already done, before she posts about it? i mean, she has 100 (or 80 or whatever) artists in this, guessing they all want at least one copy, she'd have to run out of her materials anyway, so it wouldn't be a waste. she'd have more to show, too. be able to pick the best copy for a video and pictures, no need for mockups… oh wait, i forget, we're talking about holly, she never does anything in a way that makes sense. sorry, my bad.
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wait until they get a physical copy , along side when holly throws everyone under the bus for her mistakes.
and if people are still defending her after that then I've lost hope for most the internet lolsarcastic tone
Forgot to add $4 shipping, bringing the total to $18 per book. Oh and I just love this description…
“The zine is called true colors because the zine's theme is a color pallet, so the book all matches in color.”
Holly cant come up with a decent description (with no typos or grammar mistakes) to save her life.
It still doesnt make any sense… true colors = same pallet(e). Idk what she was going for
the theme of the zine is the color palette? wut. I thought the theme was MHA characters. Get it together, Holly.
btw it's amazing what most of the artists managed with the pukey palette she set, because her entry looks the most
bland and drab.
nah no one has to ,Did I state that she had to have one no ?
I was just wondering since she wear makeup every now an then chill for a second .its not that deep tbh
this was so carelessly put together. She probably rushed it so that people would get off her ass about what should've been done 2 months ago. She didn't even give the artists the courtesy of putting their names in order.
And after all that all she has to say for herself is "Um guys I worked pretty hard on this"
All this royalties/financial and technical bullshit could've been avoided if she had just taken it to a professional printer, ran a kickstarter, and had the artists paid that way.
But she wants it all done through her so she can stay holding all the cards. She better not
whine and groan about having to make these zines well into the future, but then again, I don't think I can see this having a very long print run.
That's why PDFs are fucking important and I saw no mention of that at all in this video
. Should have been the first thing that was available, tbh.
How much you wanna bet she'll keep the book available on her shop long after the hype (which really wasn't that much to begin with) to die down, so she'd be making 100% of the profit without any other artists getting a cut.
"Mock-ups are more professional than actual product photos" Holly..They're not. You got it backwards. Where did she even get that idea? Doesn't she go to school for this stuff??
Mock-ups are only used to better convey how a design is GOING TO look in practice. When you use mock-ups(and honey, everyone with a pair of eyes can tell they're mock-ups) to actually SELL a product it looks super scammy. Having actual product photos look professional and will increase sales.
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So there won't be a PDF available to the artists? That's fucked.
>I don't think that's a good idea= I don't want the artists making profit off of this without me.
Just give them the PDF, Holly. Nobody is 'taking' money from you by having it, chill out. Jfc she wants credit for everything
500 copies? yeah right, ok Holly. Just, on your own. 500 copies to be printed, laminated and bound. To ship off. If that's the case I don't wanna hear a word
out of you in complaint.
Sounds like a personal problem.
It'll be funny seeing Holly floundering to divvy up money 100-80 ways, and she'll be getting the lion's share. Bet you won't see how much she makes off these at SanJapan when she goes to sell them there. If anyone is going, be on the look out for those.
>I dunno how people can wear glasses it feels nasty/greasy
hm. well, Holly, that depends on the wearer. the greasy/gross feeling isn't typical for people who take care of themselves, and get glasses that suit and fit them.
I don't care who you are or how much of an asshole your brother is - it gives you absolutely NO right to publicly say in front of thousands of people that you wish he would die. I understand that some family members are absolute pricks, but her talking shit about her brother like that just makes her look like a bitter, heartless bitch, and it makes her no better than him. Unless he's done something completely unforgivable (not just ruin his own life with drugs or have temper tantrums), then what she said was just totally uncalled for.
If Holly's brother ever does die, I hope that all of the bad things she said about him will haunt her forever.
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Does she not understand bleed?
She also complaints about 'fat people' and compares it to drug addiction and says they should stop saying it's societies fault, apparently without realizing how addictive foods can be?
I wish her vlogs were shorter, I just can't bare watching 35 minutes of her
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Double post but it's weird how she listed it as 60+ artists as well as 80. She also couldn't be bothered to list all of them? Of course artists will link to the zine on their own, but come on.
Drug adiction is a disease holly, the same way you say your household and other factors afected your mental health a brought you to self harm and suicide toughts it could have afected him and laughing at a sick person sshows how much of a monster you are, people cope diferently and if his escape was drugs he should be going to therapy or a drug adicition center, not the streets. You splurge on so much unnecesary shit but cant be bothered to help someone, at least so he can go away
sage for rant but im sorry, i work with cases like this and she joking about him having a low iq due to drugs just made me SO fucking mad
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The responses to that comment make me lose hope.
Sure it might make you lose weight, but you can't be sure it's 100% because of being in ketosis. Maybe you're just having less of the foods you would usually eat too much because carbs are delicious. Long term it's going to lead to vitamin deficiency and for example osteoporosis. If you have type 1 diabetes you're in great risk of actually dying if your body goes into ketosis. It literally alters your brain chemistry in ways we're still unfamiliar with today despite of the treatment being around since the early 1900s.
You can do whatever you want with your body but most of these miracle diets are not 100% safe and good for you. It's fortunate that pretty much all of them are completely impossible to stick to more than a few weeks at most.
(apparently when doing calculations, people warn for 'incoming autism', so consider yourself warned)
it just occurred to me to look this up, bc i don't use paypal myself. according to them, they have a 30 cent fee on all transactions (plus 5.4% of the transaction price, but for the sake of this, we'll ignore that).
every time holly sends money to the artists, it will cost 23.70$ total, just for sending the money (79 times 30 cents)
if you go with the 14$ the zine costs, that makes a whooping 17 cents (17.5 actually, if we go with 80 artists) for each artist per copy sold.
i can just imagine like, three months from now, when they sell like two copies of the zine, which would be 35 cents for everyone, and holly will be like "guys, that's just not feasible to send you that money" and keeps it
(tbh, it would make more sense to use the total of the 500 copies, and send everyone the money for that [87.5 per artist, assuming 14$ price per sold copy, which totals to 7k for 500 sales], and leave her to deal with the clusterfuck of getting those copies sold. but we know that ain't happening)
sorry, this was bugging me and i wanted to actually see numbers to see how much of a shitfest it will be
[repost bc of spelling error and forgetting to sage]
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Right now i'm looking into how a zine works, as far as i know holly took the "hand-made" side a bit to literally.
still doing more research .
She lost her reliability the moment she passed the first deadline, and then decided not to take time off her
projects to inform 80 other people right away.
Since she's binding all these books herself, it's going to cut into her own time to make her precious little comics, and she's going to gripe about it, and there's bound to be errors, technical issues with the printer, or any other stage of the printing for that matter, so she'll keep wasting money.
She doesn't have any sense of Damage control either. She just blames everything else but herself and hopes people give her asspats and forgets about it so she can move on to her "Next Big Project (tm)"
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Holy shit why does the way she draws hair always look like stale licorice??>>639179
She could even go behind everyone's backs and do that. Who knows. This is already scummy enough and the math is just so jank. I'm really interested in how this'll all go down. This should've been a charity zine for her first go round, to an actual cause, not to the "I'm holly I'm 'always broke'" fund.
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She added " the 600 sketchbooks where hard to find"
shit its not like people can't go on amazon to find them holly . probably find better quality ones that actually hold together.
I really am sad people participated in her stupid challenge .But i do like the few that said it wasnt worth it.
I love how this is like, her 'claim to fame' is to make a shitty challenge she doesn't even adhere to. That challenge was just pure useless burnout, impractical, and just…old news/irrelevant now.
She didn't even proofread her damn description. "Holly brown in an American Comic Artist" lmao watch her change it after reading this.
Like I feel for Holly in a sense that I know what its like to deeply dislike a sibling for very real reasons.
But heres a hint Holly, not everyone is going to understand your relationship with your brother. So like if you act like a huge dick and poke fun at his flaws and misery, YOU kinda seem to be the psycho. Especially if there has been video evidence where you fly off the handle for him so much as just wanting to ASK A QUESTION.
God why is this chick just so unaware of how to handle herself publicly?
For real, back at that video where she has her friends on skype. He came in to ask a question and after yelling at him to go away she spent a couple minutes muttering under her breath how much she hates him.
Really freaked me out and, why the hell would she keep that in a video!? Makes her look real psycho.
I remember that shit, i think it freaked whoever was on with her out too. And now she's venting in her vlogs, saying "fucking
" in between every other word, like we get it, you're upset. Reign it in. The way she talks about her family gives me secondhand uncomfortable vibes, so I don't tend to tune into her vlogs as much. She has so much hate in her.