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Holly BRown is a bad artist, YouTuber, webcomic author, and fujoshi popular with edgy children for her "no bullshit" attitude despite not accepting any criticism.
She believes she's known for two webcomics:
Purgatory, her oldest and worst comic, about two gay teens in a cult with lots of rape: https://tapas.io/series/Purgatory
Paranormal Plague, whose most-drawn character hasn't been introduced, with rape DLC: https://tapas.io/series/Paranormalplague
She also wrote Chroma Prince, a Patreon-only NSFW yaoi comic about alien sex slaves. She only did 4 pages before shutting down her Patreon.
She's actually most known for ranting about the CalArts admissions process being unfair even though she was DEFINITELY accepted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TB90iDxOcIg
WEBSITE (currently deleted): https://www.hollycbrown.com/
(LASER BUSINESS): https://www.instagram.com/razorlasercustoms/
(FOOT FETISH): https://www.instagram.com/feetfootstomping/
TWITTER (currently deleted): https://twitter.com/HCBrownart
TUMBLR (currently deleted): http://bullshitshitpostmainaccount.tumblr.com/
In the last thread:>Revealed on a livestream that she has a foot fetish Instagram called feetfootstomping in order to earn more money. She quit after 2 posts>Created her new Patreon, which is a disorganized, embarrassing mess>Got some more ugly wigs, including a green one so she could skinwalk her disgusting, rapey OC Reese>Broke her laser after having it for only 2 months. She contacted company support in hopes of getting it fixed or replaced under warranty with the threat of “obliterating” the company if they didn’t do otherwise. Has since got it replaced/fixed, but she keeps changing her story in regards to what the company actually did with the laser.>Complained on a livestream about how doing fanart is “selling out” and making her lose all of her “artistic integrity,” how she’s not like other millennials because she doesn’t waste money on avocado toast, and that going to art school was the worst thing she’s ever done>Became obsessed with Professor Venomous from the TV show “OK K.O.! Let’s Be Heroes,” even to the point of calling him her husband and following an Instagram page called “professorvenomousisdaddy.” She even lifted her no fanart rule just for him.>Bragged about how she’s not a virgin on a livestream, even though she has drawn lots of backwards penises that indicate otherwise>Deleted ALL of Purgatory and has started uploading shitty redraws, even though she was super close to the finale of the story>The Purgatory Kickstarter has gotten significantly delayed, and she has been inconsistent about whether the rewards are being shipped, have been shipped, or are being delayed even further.>Scrambled to get things ready for San Japan:
>She decided to NOT sell an OK K.O. print even though she continued to waste time working on it>Prepped some shitty prints including her old convention prints from last year and recolors of her microcats>Wasted all her money on sketchbook making supplies and could not afford materials to make other merch>Had to “budget” and make quick cash through her Etsy store and commissions because her artist “friend” and con table-mate, Twisted Disaster, refused to pay for anything
>Apparently works for Uber and Lyft part-time, even though she’s a shit driver and crashed her car several times at this point>Painted a pair of old jeans with shitty vaporwave designs in hopes of selling it on Etsy, but decided against it and threw them out>Did a livestream where she complained about how she’s not excited about meeting her fans at San Japan, went on a depression gatekeeping rant, and complained about how dating girls is bad because they are more judgemental about her boobs>Went to San-Japan extremely underprepared, bringing only a few prints, a few sketchbooks, her old Jiji watercolor painting, CUTTING BOARDS (later taken down because they looked too much like yaoi paddles), wooden charms, and wooden business cards that looked like fugly coasters.>Took commissions at San Japan as a desperate attempt at making more money, and publicly shat on one of her commissions in an Instagram story>After San Japan finished she claimed she was going to be busy working 2-3 jobs and doing Etsy commissions, which is doubtful since she thinks she’s too good for regular work>Claimed on an Instagram post how she sold out of almost everything at San Japan (either a complete lie or the result of not bringing enough merch) so she’s ONLY going to draw her OCs at future conventions, once again learning the wrong fucking lesson.>Threw shade at Twisted Disaster in her Instagram comments by saying she would have made bank at San Japan if it wasn’t for paying for her friends
No seriously. She is. Creepshow already accused her of scamming her fans out of their money and lying about what her kickstarter was for, and according to TD she was really upset by that. Like TD tweeted and deleted about how creepshow is a shit stirrer and doesnt know what shes talking about.
So I think Holly has just been hiding away, not saying anything until she can finally send things out because she knows if she comes back and talks about all the money she made, she's going to have to answer on where her kickstarter is and I dont think shes even sent it to the printers
It wasn't me but, honestly she COULD be good at merch if she were to go about it the right way but she doesn't. Holly's problem is she has ideas that range from good to semi passable as far as profitability goes but, she handles it terribly. Doing conventions are an excellent way to get money and form connections with other artist but, Holly refuses to swallow her pride and draw fanart which is much more profitable than her OC crap and she also turns her noses up at her fans and thinks herself better than other artists. She publicly shit on someone's commission, she has no idea how to be a decent person to others. Hell, the Laser cutter business could have even been profitable but, she started it at the wrong time when she should have been fulfilling KS rewards and getting ready for SanJapan she was fucking around with her new toy that she's already grown tired of. She could have had a steady job with Amazon or the Graphic design job but, refuses to take orders from others and threw a fit. It's no wonder she's blacklisted by so many people. The Kickstarter for a redrawn comic might have been nonsensical but, she even managed to fuck that up with how late she is at sending rewards out. People can shit on Creepshow all they want but, I'm glad she called it out and TD with her lard ass can go sit her leaching self down and kindly shut up until she puts in her money to help pay for shit.
Tl;dr- Holly is a fucking idiot that somehow shoots herself in the foot with every project she takes on because she refuses to do the smart thing and wants to do things her way.
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Redraw Purgatory Update!
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How do you even fuck up that bad? The guideline is right there on the page! Not only that but the board also doubles in size.. >>871718
Wasn't miniHitler a total bastard in the original? Is she rewriting his personality to make more sense in the final act?
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This scene appeared in the old version too.>>871696>I'm gonna miss Miss Williams, she was cool teacher….>>871721>Alight then, let's begin.
Don't feel bad for her. Every single problem she has is self-inflicted and she knows it. She's even admitted ignoring advice she knows is good because she "doesn't want to let the haturz win." She's fully aware that all of her decisions are bad ones but she doesn't care until they come back and bite her in the ass, then she plays the "I'm so mentally ill and suicidal and anxious woe is me" victim
She shits on everybody, fans, friends, family members, obsessed orbiters, pets, congoers, customers, and other artists. All on various streams too, you would have no hope from the get go.
It’s a nice thing to think about but would just blow up in your face like every one of Holly’s projects have. Hell, she even shits on TD, while TD’s a fuckin cow in her own right she’s like one of the only YT artists that will put up with and even defend Holly publicly.
After what happened during SJ though TD totally deserved the shade but you get it.
Being Holly’s friend wouldn’t be enough and she’s an asshole so it won’t be worth the effort of trying.
>>872290>just want to draw my gay shit
she keeps saying but people don't listen. these comics of hers are not motivated by artistic ambition or commercial reward. she simply gets off to her boy drawings. her impulse is masturbation.
she then says 'i might as well make money too since i can'
uber doesn't care honestly as long as you have a license, insurance, and a 4 door car.
i've been in too many close calls with their drivers.
or if she's doing uber eats i think it's 6 months plus she doesn't have to deal with people in her car,(god judging her bedroom i can't imagine what her car looks like )
ntayrt, but even then she'll probably still be pretty boring. For a while, she got a little
interesting again with the camgirl talk and laser woodcutter, but now it's back to stale milk. Unless she actually brings back all her accounts (YT, twitter, Patreon…), I doubt there will ever be any sort of substantial good milk again. Just a few entertaining things here and there, like how it has been the past 3-4 threads. The milk was ruined after the tracing drama. Which, with all the shit she's pulled (especially with the zine), I'm surprised that's what did her in. Anyway, these threads feel really sad at this point anymore. Holly depresses me the most out of any cow I keep up with.
I feel like every time someone brings up how long the milk has been dead, the farmers still react with "B-b-b-but wait! This thing here is going to be SO milky!!" but it never is at this point. Holly's fucking dead and boring. My next bet is the most interesting milk to come from her in the following weeks is she works at uber, quits, makes some new OC merch, tries to figure out a job she won't like for the fifteenth time, and still doesn't send out the ks shit, which no-one still will care about it or no-one that has/will gain any traction will bring attention to it.
I'm going to keep following to the end as well, but it's just that I have absolutely no expectations anything interesting will happen at this point, other than something occasional. I've enjoyed a bit of the job drama, laser cutter, and foot fetish crap, but none of it is as good as the milk used to be. I think it's just going to sizzle out, like you said. Even if she tries to rebound by bringing the accounts back, she doesn't have the following anymore. No following means no money for the small effort she'd have to make. She has absolutely no fucking patience and she'll abandon/shut it all down again because it's not immediate money. The only really good potential milk is if she becomes a camgirl, but even that won't last more than 3 posts spread out over 5 fucking days.
I think Holly will always be a 'cow' as long as she has a presence on the internet, but at this point, she's become a literally who. I don't see her becoming big again, either. >>874336
Agree completely. Even if it's the cardinal sin of the artist community, it honestly wouldn't have cancelled her. If she made a quick 5 minute apology video and moved on, everyone else would have moved on within a couple of weeks as well. Even though she pretty much destroyed her channel and its active viewership, it could've rebounded pretty quickly once she got back into the groove of it. Like I said, even with the potential to make money, if it's not immediately doing so, it's not worth it to her. Not to tinfoil too hard, but I do wonder at some level if she did what she did to get out of having to do YT
this is barely milk at all.
>My life is literally in shambles.
i will never get artists putting shit like this into their bio, it isn't quirky, it just makes them not trust worthy. not that it changes anything about how people perceive holly.
Who said things had to be up to your standards? >>874791
Why did she color in the mouth with his skin tone?
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Jesus, so how will she gain any followers? What's the fucking point of having a Twitter if she won't have anyone to follow her or Tweet at? It's obvious from her Etsy being linked, her Twitter handle, and Simon and Damien being in her banner that it's not a personal account, but she can't exactly make herself and her art known if she's just gonna automatically block anyone who wants to follow her.
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goddammit everyone in this thread is acting Peak stupid about this new twitter account. Holly obviously JUST made this account (it says created September 2019)
Honestly I feel like the reveal/drop here was made by someone closer to Holly, twitter usually notifies you if someone in your contacts makes a new twitter account (it’s usually because it’s linked to their phone number.)
Holly hasn’t announced this new account ANYWHERE just yet. It’s likely she was just waiting until she was a little bit more ready to reveal her return to twitter.
So since someone drops this here, we now know that Holly does infact lurk her thread here. And she’s bright enough to realize all of the people trying to follow request her new account are coming from lolcow. So honestly if you did try to follow request her new twitter you’re just outing yourself as a farmer.
She also took the time to block everyone she had blocked on her previous account so…
Holly, if you have the time to sit down an re-block god knows how many people you’ve blocked in the past on a new account you’re not utilizing, it just further proves how much time you waste doing pointless shit. Now go finish your Kickstarter.
I've never actually read this comic so I never realized how terrible the pacing is.
Sudden relationship. Sudden cult killings. Sudden rape. None of it believable outside of Hitler being bad.
I don't remember exactly how it went in the old comic but for some reason this feels even more uncomfortable to read than it did in the old one. Was the old scene this long? I think if she gave subtle cues like the locking of the door and turning down the blinds it would have been enough to get the point across. Hitler also explicitly repeating over and over how much Simon looks like his mom spoils the audience figuring it out later through the flashback. We already see how his mom is literally female Simon and Hitler is in love with her, you don't need to write like your audience is retarded Holly.
I'm also not sure why so many anons are insisting this milk has been dry for ages, personally I found the feetfootstomping shit the funniest thing she's ever done since that thrust thrust rape doujin. It is true that this cow is much sadder to follow now though, even if you laugh you kinda feel bad, but she is an expert at self sabotage. She has been stripped of her YT success yet there is nobody else to blame but her own choices and poor money management.
With the amount of following she had before the channel meltdown she could have built something, even with the tracing scandal happening. I remember there was a point when Purgatory was newer Holly's fans would even send her physical fanart of the comic for her to hang in her room. Nowadays she even complains on streams about how people draw her characters if ever… she can't help having a shit personality which turns off her fans. She's nowhere at the level of fame to be able to treat her supporters like shit and come out unscathed yet she keeps doing things like this (ie. when she does commissions yet shits on her clients OC's). She dropped all opportunities she could have exploited like her Patreon (multiple times), selling fanart at conventions, commission work… plus overcomplicated her business. If she kept at her YT, did early comic releases and other shit on Patreon, commissions, and sold cute generic pins on etsy or something simple like BJ she would have an okay income by now. Cancel culture is fake and only works on people who are not amusing and Holly is an amusing person, she definitely has that going for her. That she even has any supporters at all after her shit attitude and so many scandals piling on her back is proof of that. I don't think tracing or the "Art Scrub" video were the end of her career as much as it was how she reacted to those and how she's now inconsistent and unable to rebuild what she had in her old channel. Her dipping out of social media as she has been doing for the past year (like her current hiatus) is the most damaging thing of all to her relevancy imo.
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she kept the doorknob panel the same
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Here's the last page for this update. Sorry the pages got posted in chunks. Something came up so I couldn't post them for a bit.
Honestly I do like the candles melting to signify time passing, but…
Then I see the actual clock and the line markings look so janky. It would look better with just one line for each hour, rather than every single minute.
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It's so hard to take this seriously when Holly made this.
"Hershel getting drugged and basically forced into sex isn't rape"
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I don't really understand why she changed fat Hitler's dialogue. It just further hamfists how much he wants to fuck Simon's mom and sounds even more clunky than the original. At least the old dialogue made some sense, at least by Holly standards.
Yeah, and the dialog change ruins the consequences of the scene, too. Back in the old version, Simon couldn't call for help or tell anyone because then he would be outed as gay and then subsequently killed. It seemed like a big statement about the cult's treatment of gay people and related back to the main yaoi story.
Now, Hitler is just like "well, you got raped by me, but you'll still get killed too if you tell anyone, because… idk". It's just totally random now that Simon happened to get raped and is also coincidentally gay, which makes it pointless. Nice job Holly you ruined your own writing (somehow, considering it was already horrid)
Yeah, and the dialog change ruins the consequences of the scene, too. Back in the old version, Simon couldn't call for help or tell anyone because then he would be outed as gay and then subsequently killed. It seemed like a big statement about the cult's treatment of gay people and related back to the main yaoi story.
Now, Hitler is just like "well, you got raped by me, but you'll still get killed too if you tell anyone, because… idk". It's just totally random now that Simon happened to get raped and is also coincidentally gay, which makes it pointless. Nice job Holly you ruined your own writing (somehow, considering it was already horrid)
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With the old version she didn't have any lines on the clock, so I guess she added them in the redraw to add more "detail." But even without the lines in the old one I can see that it's about 1:20, but with the new one the hand placement in combination with the weirdly placed lines just makes figuring out the time super confusing. I would have either stayed lineless or just have a line for every hour instead of every minute, but this is Holly we're talking about so of course she'd take the most nonsensical route.
I was hoping that she was trying to do something with them since she seems to draw them in this rendition so much, like them melting more when fucked up stuff happens as a symbol of simons innocence melting away or something
idk I was just really hoping that they meant something but so far it just meaningless filler
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Holly just updated Purgatory a few minutes ago.
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Holly also updated the cover art
Simon's dad has suspenders in one panel and then the scarf/robes(?) in the next…and then the opposite problem here >>876260
. I know it's old news that Holly's a scammer and never proofreads or edits her work but I'll never get over how careless she is.>>876261
I actually like the cover. Too bad she never goes into any of the world building and the religious cult shit is just a means for her to draw twinky animu boys getting raped.
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Lmao he looks deranged and Simon isn't even resting on the bed correctly. The window looks nice but could have added a knocking sound or something. The way I end up reading this comic is guessing what scene she tried to set up instead of seeing the actual scene. It's like reading her mind instead of reading the comic.>>876223
What's with the paneling here? I think she forgot to erase some lines or draw some other ones well? It's so inconsistent and the tangents are driving me crazy. To think this woman used to make comic tips videos.
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eyy she put stuff on insta, honestly glade she is still alive.
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New Instagram Story
I guess she found a new obsession?
Out of all the art cows Holly confuses me the most.
She'll do stuff like >>876261
which looks nice. But then in pages like this: >>876252
She'll have the blanket act like it's flat on the bed despite the fact there is an anime hunchback under it.
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Why are none of the lines actually touching Simon it makes it look like he is glowing? Is he supposed to be glowing??
Holly posted an update on YouTube as well I really want to know what jobs she is taking about is she counting commissions and the ks as jobs?
Holly just finish the things you owe people who have paid you money and stop whining so much lmao it’s ya own fault gf. I’m on team feel sorry for holly and want to help her but this looks so bad…it really makes her look inept.
He basically implies that he's been assaulted in some way and Damian just kinda starts making out with him and drops the matter immediately, incredible. That whole scene and the rape were bad in the original, but I'm impressed she managed to make it worse.>>876374
Why did she not at least have TD pay for her share of the table and the hotel? She must have known in advance that she wasn't going to make that much. Mental illness and bad upbringing might be able to affect your ability to make reasonable decisions but that's just excessive.
her jobs are all online based. she does door dash, post mates and uber. she has never had to show proof of insurance or proof license in order to do these jobs, because I know post mates and uber just allow you to sign up without a car and don't ask for any proof. Not sure about Uber, but I believe they want to know your license number and that's it.
holly has already gotten into 3 car accidents that we know of, and has talked about each of them online. I doubt that she has reported them, because if she has, that means her insurance is probably over 200 dollars a month, while her car payment is 500 dollars.
I don't trust her with these jobs at all, especially because a lot of it is based off of driving and customer interaction. If you are an uber or lyft driver, you can lose your job by being a jerk to a rider, and I guarantee she has probably had complaints. Same with postmates and door dash. She's going to end up getting fired. I give her a week before someone complains and get's her fired completely
>>876508> Is it really that quick and easy to get jobs in the US?
Depends on the location. Some areas of the US are kind of booming right now while others are falling apart. There has been a bit of a mass migration into southern states these past few years.
is correct then that would really explain why Holly has three "jobs" that take up so much of her time. These ride-sharing/app delivery jobs are super volatile tho. You can drive around 12 hours a day and earn less than minimum wage or work less than 7 hours and earn twice the minimum wage.
A smart person wouldn’t have taken her at her word, which is why none of her backers have criticized her outright yet. They’re dumber than a bag of bricks. If she really was packing them, then she should have had them shipped in batches and we’d have seen at least one backer post a pic of their package already. She’s stalling hardcore and none of these people will see a book until next year at the earliest.
It amazes me how much she’s able to get away with without being held accountable because of “muh depression”.
I’m also calling bullshit on her current “jobs”. Packing nonexistent packages isn’t a real job Holly.
she mentioned before that she is going to focus on app only jobs because working a regular "9 to 5" makes her want to "slit her wrists". Either in td's video from San Japan or a stream from around that time, she stated that Holly has started working for postmates, and there was a door dash bag in the background. So I am guessing those are her jobs, but it has been hinted at on td's channel.
I used to work for both postmates and door dash, and you don't even need to interview or show proof on insurance. A lot of people do it in my area and they get stoned while they do it.
my guess is that holly started these jobs so she could be "her own boss", but didn't realize how long it would take her to get any money from these jobs. it also makes sense for her to go into hiding because creepshow already talked about how she most likely blew all the money she made on the kickstarter and now has to come up with the money, and pay 700 dollars in car payments, and possible rent
What the hell is going on with Damien’s eyes? They’re nowhere near each other and the right one is sliding off his face.
While it’s nicely rendered from a distance, zooming in kills it instantly.
Is it just me or are Salmon's glasses getting bigger?
The re-draw should have an alternative title: Purgatory Except Every Time Holly Fucks Up Anatomy Simon's Glasses Get Bigger
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This has been bothering me for ages but it really looks like she ripped off FF8s main characters design to me.
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Owes commissions and kickstarter rewards
“Hey guys new merch!”
Jfc just about every single post she has to squeeze in how fucking depressed she is to preemptively deflect criticism about her actions because it might trigger
her suicidal tendencies. What a manipulative cunt. She shouldn’t bother with new merch for her shop until her backers get squared away, but whatever. She’s just going to continue shooting herself in the foot.
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She showed off a new business card in her latest Instagram story, and it only advertises Paranormal Plague.
HOLLY. Paranormal Plague only has 18 pages! And you haven't updated it in almost a year! And you're 5 months late with your Kickstarter for your other comic! Get your fucking priorities straight and your shit together!
… is the info on that card off center or is it just me?
I sure hope it's because of the way she's holding it or just my impression because otherwise damn, she really can't be bothered huh?
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I think I figured out why none of the lines are actually touching Simon.
I was looking at some of the old Purgatory pages to compare them to the updated version, and then I realized that with some of the pages, she's just using the old artwork. She tweaks some bits here and there, and then retrofits the new character designs into them.
Excellent work anon
Bed panel: She made simon look flatter
Tree: She actually improved the tree and how can she hit the mark so well with texture, lighting and shape language with abstraction and then suddenly when she needs to describe actual real life forms, it all goes out the window?
Kitchen: lmaooo this was an improvement??
And finally old simon was way hotter or at least didn't look 10?
>>876801>how can she hit the mark so well with texture, lighting and shape language with abstraction and then suddenly when she needs to describe actual real life forms, it all goes out the window?
Because while she might study backgrounds from life, she she studies people from her animes.
>And finally old simon was way hotter or at least didn't look 10
Hard disagree, the infamous chin phase was easily her worst.
She's painting herself as a victim
because she knows dangelo and shannon are planning on making videos on her. Shannon says people are coming forward and you know dangelo has a hate boner for holly. She's already preparing for the storm
I prefer her weebshit over the banana faces but to each their own I guess. Simon looks young but he is a teenager. I do agree his dad looks way off now though.>>876807
Too bad she hasn't learned from the last time they came for her ass. It's really not that hard to be a halfway decent person, Holly.
iirc shannon said she'd make a video a while ago, but it still hasn't happened.
when did dangelo say he would?
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First of all, love Herschel's square ass and completely fucked up left hand
Second of all, is Ash supposed to be taking her top off, or putting it on? It's impossible to tell
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New updated Purgatory pages
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Description for this page:>i literally never changed this page cause im lazy so I know the perspective is bad but im lazy
Holly, just because you recognize that you're being lazy doesn't mean it's ok to continue being lazy.
Did… did Hitler just teleport to his desk??? What is this transition?!
Holly also forgot to draw the sides to Simon’s glasses in a few panels. Such attention to detail. The fucked up arrangement of the text in the speech balloons are really grating. What’s the point of redoing these if they progressively get worse each time?
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To be fair to Holly Sugar is a real last name and there are way worse out there. >>878217
How the fuck she missed the mistakes in the only background on this page though is impressively dumb.
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Newest Instagram story
Goddammit Holly. She’s never going to learn, is she? Complains about money but is STILL buying shit she thinks is going to sell. She’s probably going to slap her shit OCs on it and expect to sell out.
I would be furious if I were one of her backers at this point.
the biggest reason she gets away w/ stuff is a) she wasn’t that “famous” to begin with, at the height of her popularity she had, what, 100,000 subs on youtube? yeah, that’s a lot when you imagine that many ppl in person, but in internet terms, it’s barely a blip compared to the many many creators w/ millions of subs. and b) after moving accounts, that number drastically decreased. she also doesn’t do as many “tutorials” as she used to. some decent artists mentioned/followed her in the past solely bc they saw those vids, iirc. now really the only thing she has going for her is her regular art and this purgatory re-draw, neither of which are…uhhh…widely appealing to say the least.
still find it odd that she mentions paranormal plague all the time, even though she hasn’t updated it in forever. if/when she goes back to it, she’ll def “redraw” the pages for no reason just like she’s doing now. i thought she used to plan out her stories ahead of time w/ thumbnails and such. wouldn’t it help her if she did detailed outlines of these stories first so that she doesn’t get dissatisfied w/ them so easily and scrap several pages of work?
I would kinda get it if she was making Purgatory mugs as part of the Kickstarter rewards (though it'd still be a huge waste of time), but these are literally for her other comic that she hasn't even updated since last November.
Get your fucking shit together, Holly.
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She uploaded a shit ton of new pages but one thing I noticed is that her redraws have gotten even worse with the start of book two. Even compared to her old art, like if you look these two pages, the comic on the right actually looks less sloppy and awkward than its "improved" version on the left, despite Sasha's manface.
Also, why did she decide to make her background suddenly turn into a brick wall in the new version? It comes completely out of nowhere and looks weird and random, just keep the skull BG from your old comic jfc
She always goes on about how amazing she is at inking/linework but it's absolutely one of her biggest weaknesses. I'm not sure how she's gotten even worse at it.
Also Mrs. Simon's Mom doesn't look like a woman in either of these pages. Literally looks like a dude with eyelashes and tits. I know she's supposed to be a Simon clone but her design is fucking terrible.
I think they actually might have been dating at the time. I'm not sure anymore, but I vaguely remember them kissing.
I guess she just dropped him for the dad?
Right, the new one makes the mom look just like Simon with tits glued on
Also, if Simon's mom looks like a teenage boy, wouldn't that make her… ugly?
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Yeah, Hitler and Simon's mom were dating, and then she ended up with Simon's dad. I don't really remember if Holly ever provided more info about the dynamic between the three, but Simon is later shown to be thinking about Sasha's relationships and lowkey thinking that if she was dating Hitler and Sebastian at the same then she deserved to get sacrificed, and then he asks Hitler if his mom was a whore.
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From her Kickstarter
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It's fucking autists like this who make it possible for people to scam lmfao.
Can't wait for them to get scammed and then get upset when no one cares anymore cause 'good things come to those who wait'
10000% Confirms if you back anything on kickstarter you're begging to get scammed.
There goes Holly again with more of her excuses. I also hate how lowkey passive aggressive she is in the reply. I get that you hate people Holly, but don't be so rude to the people who are literally supporting you unconditionally and throwing their money at you to support your endeavor of sitting on your fat ass all day and do nothing while complaining about how you don't have time to do shit.>>879293
Her backers really are dumbass children.
You know, she keeps saying she’s shipped some out but NEVER posted an image of the final printed product. She immediately posts any shit she has made (like the fucking mugs) but not the books? I know her fans are morons but come on, they can’t rub two brain cells together to see that she’s blatantly scamming at this point? She did this to her customers on Etsy too. She refunded them instead of sending out whatever they had ordered.
Get your shit together Holly, jfc.
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Considering how the pages afterwards show Simon devolving into madness and depicts Hitler as the poor guy who has to deal with him and his issues, yeah, it's fucked.
The comment on one of the old rape pages was basically "this is Simon's fault for allowing himself to be alone with Hitler," I'm pretty sure she enjoys victim
blaming him for some fucking reason.
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Holly just made a HUGE Purgatory update. She's now back to the last page before she deleted everything and started posting the redraws. Hopefully we'll get the "exciting" shitshow of a conclusion soon.
Also in regards to this update, the since the most recent pages were close to her current art style, she just did more updates of the character designs and slight touchups of the backgrounds and putting in dialogue where she forgot to previously. The pages are still shit though. The text is still terribly lined up with the speech bubbles and her attempt at improving the lineart in some places looks super sloppy.
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Kek I forgot how shitty some of these pages are
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New Purgatory Pages!!!
He pulled the trigger
with his whole hand? Wtf
I love that she drew the shotgun with a trigger
guard RIGHT after the close up shot of the entire hand pulling the trigger
The redraws only highlight the bad parts of her art even more. The line work is somehow even worse, poses are stiffer than ever, every expression is an exaggerated or goofy form of either sadness/trauma, anger or snarkiness and thus all look the same, she’s gotten even lazier with details that she should be fixing with redraws like perspectives, anatomy or even text alignment…
I struggle to see any part of this that could honestly be called an impoverishment.
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Unfortunately she seems to change the things that were fine and not bother to fix the big mistakes.
Holly needs more solid study and less cartoon/stylization.
Unfortunately she seems to change the things that were fine and not bother to fix the big mistakes.
Holly needs more solid study and less cartoon/stylization.
I am actually pretty excited to see the climax
I assume the cathedral collapses on Hitler
Why cant she draw a finger pulling a trigger
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He shot a shotgun at Hilter and his Son. Does Holly not understand Shotguns shots spread out?
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I think she intended it to be a hunting rifle considering the previous pages, but since it's Holly of course she drew it it in a way that makes it look like a completely different gun.
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Reminds me of pic related, except Devilman deserves a pass because it's actually well-written and influential. Purgatory is just if like if Devilman's writing was as crap as its art.
It almost feels like maybe Holly was going for a Devilman-esque aesthetic and tone but fucked it all up with her general ineptitude.
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I don't know why I made this
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That panel of the thumb pulling the trigger
makes zero sense.
That’s not how you pull the trigger
of a gun
For anyone interested - since she opened her Laser business, she has made 22 sales in total. That's both sad and quite telling.https://www.etsy.com/shop/RazorLaserCustoms
Considering she still has that etsy, I'm pretty sure she never sold that laser.
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I feel like >strangle strangle strangle
would have been a more appropriate onomatopoeia. /s
Bad paneling, inappropriate expressions, helmet hair, awful anatomy (that isn't an intentional aspect of the art style), etc.
Look at Ryo's neck in the first panel. It looks like he swallowed a football. It's a fantastic story and the artist's work does
get better in the sequel, but yeah the art is… bad.
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Hitler Junior told Simon's dad about Simon getting raped after Hitler abducted him. However, we don't get to see his reaction to the news, Holly just time jumps to Simon's dad going into the cathedral with a large duffle bag.
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Here's a bigger picture. Didn't realize it was so small and the website won't let me delete my post
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Here's a convo Holly had with one of her fans in the comments. She claims that she's almost done with fulfilling the Kickstarter awards and is gonna sell the regular books on Amazon
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Here's the "thrilling" conclusion to the great battle between Hitler and Simon's dad
Well, I didn't expect that…
Also, Holly uses motion lines everywhere except the scene of Hitler falling down the cathedral
Late tinfoil, but is Damien's last name Sugar because she's a fan of Rebecca Sugar/SU? >>879928
Dad trying to kill Hitler for raping his kid might have been the only reasonable action a character has taken the entire comic.
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I’m howling what’s even going on is hitlers face melting or some shit
I think it also doesn't help that Simon's dad wasn't the one who had the primary conflict with Hitler, it was Simon. I mean, Holly is implying that there is baggage between Hitler and Simon's dad because of Simon's mom, but she never went super into depth with that and it only really popped up in their final fight in the ossuaries. It probably would have made more narrative sense if it was Simon who killed Hiter. I also like your idea >>880487
with the robes and Hitler getting hung and the irony behind it. Holly is just super bad at setting stuff up in order to have a satisfying payoff, except argueably with the cathedral falling apart.
Simon shooting Hitler because he was fighting with his dad would’ve held more symbolic meaning. Facing down his trauma to protect his family like how he wanted to protect Damien during the assault to begin with. It would’ve gave Simon direct closure on the situation too.
Also having hitler be shot down metaphorically by Sasha and then get actually shot down by Simon would be ironically funny too.
the more anons talk about what could have been, the madder i get about this stupid-ass ending. the hanging thing would have been PERFECT, even if it cheated simon out of some retribution. the whole thing from hitler finding them to this final fight was so disjointed and stupid anyway; her characters act like queued mobs in a video game, doing an idle animation on the outskirts of the scene while waiting for the one NPC already fighting to die. i honestly dont think ive ever seen her draw two things happening simultaneously, come to think of it. every action gets its own close-up with accompanying inappropriate sound effect.
god this just sucks. how is anyone a real fan of this?
anon you seem really sweet so please read this https://lolcow.farm/rules
so you don't get banned. no emojis here, but good job your sage worked!
yeah, hanging would be way more thematically appropriate. she really doesn't think in motion or at a zoomed out view of what's going on, so her fight scenes end up jilted. she needed to marathon a dozen action movies before she wrote this scene. but then again, that would be expecting her to reference anything.
besides, all these pages are so obviously rushed for the kickstarter that it's painful. she should have released the old version, even unfinished, to fulfill the kickstarter and use the new pages as a teaser for the redrawn book.
but that's expecting her to make any good decisions.
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That's it?? Sebastian survived? Then when does Simon ever brave up in his character arch?
The story looks more like Sebastian's story since he resolved the conflict (from pastor in a cult to killing another chord member in a sacred place to protect his family) but what did Simon even do? If at least he had to build confidence to tell what was happening to him to his religious unaware father, not knowing how he would react, then I could see character superation. But here nothing happens, everyone solves things for Simon and Damian.
There could still be a plot twist but with how she's rushing the comic to have it end soon I'm not sure about it, she would probably rather jump straight to a happy end.
Did she ever show what happened to Simon's mom? She died because she was dating Hitler? What did her coded research even say and why did it matter? I don't get it… Not that I ever expected this to be a satisfactory comic coming from Holly but if your art and panneling is going to be weak at least give people a reason to bother with this story.
Reminds me of the plot for Repo The Genetic Opera. Guy dates girl, girl meets another guy. Girl starts dating that other guy. The dude she dumped is jealous and gets revenge by killing her and tries to steal the kid.
But she went the weird rape route.. Repo didn't go that far.
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ok ok i tried to type up whatever the hell i could remember chronologically from the course of the story. please excuse my drivel.
>grabbing shit out of the ossuaries
>simon gets punched in the bathroom
>ossuary gay boy time
>hitler takes over class
>simon sad but glad (for damien)
>independent study is a go
>daddy dipshit finds out his son is gay and blushes i guess
>daddy dipshit unloads a bunch of shit on damien
>simon goes to hitler to talk about whore mom (and nEW gLaSsEs)
>dipshit dad and damien are ready to skidaddle
>simon angry about leaving
>simon ok about leaving
>hitler jr joins in and finds out his dad is a freak (and they're all just sitting in the snow on the sidewalk like what the fuck who does that)
>hitler fucks everyone up as they prepare to leave while dipshit dad is gone (and hitler takes simon)
>dipshit dad goes to church for confrontation
>damien wakes up in car with simon…
so yeah, it's a whole lot of nothing. none of this shit feels earned.
! New here, read rules but I guess I missed a couple!
that can't be it? That's not an ending!!
Oh phew, was worried.
But yeah, so far Holly's showing a complete inability to tell a story. or even develop a character. Nothing that happens makes sense
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Holly posted on her Instagram
How can she be almost done with the Kickstarter when she isn’t even done finishing the pages??? Like, she sure as fuck hasn’t printed them for them to be shipped?
I know her followers are dumb but come on!
I think you're right about her deleting her Etsy. I just went to the link provided on her Instagram and it leads to a dead end. I also checked her Razor Laser Store and that's gone too. The Instagram for the laser store is still up though: https://www.instagram.com/razorlasercustoms/
Why would she delete her Etsy? Especially considering how much she complains about being poor all the time. Maybe she just changed the URLs or is going back to using StoreEnvy, but it's still super bizarre.
She also might be banking on people buying her books on Amazon since she said they’d be up there (if that ever happens lol)
She seems to be shooting herself in the foot again by disabling her shops. Not that she fulfilled orders on there anyway. I guess that’s one less “job” for her.
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Here you go anon I hope this clears up the confusion for you.
Now THIS needs to be the next thread pic, along with this one: >>880357
I keked so hard. Great job!
I hadn't checked this thread in awhile and I totally believed for a second that Holly wrote "dying dieing" unironically.>>881031
So dad just casually knows how to obtain and dose morphine and find a vein because he likes to be prepared? Sounds believable!
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I'm sorry, but what the fuck.
she did no research whatso ever on this VERY intense and serious topic. Nothing, absolutely no amount of sexual trauma is suddenly fixed by "I should have been there for you son I failed ILY tho"
Any rape and sexual abuse survivor will tell you that love is not enough. It's nice to have support but it's a ROUGH ride on the road of recovery. Some people sometimes actually get ANGRY or defensive. It's so much more complex..
Oh but Holly definitely did her research and it's not a fetish or anything.
While I agree that Holly just needs to finish Purgatory and let it go after working on it for so long, i can see the sentiment behind >>881300
anon's statement. Purgatory had an interesting concept and had the potential to be a great story if it was fleshed out a lot more. But as long as it's in Holly's hands, it'll probably never get better than the state it is now, which is pretty sad.
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New Instagram Story
Reading the chat makes me want to puke. Being an impressionable teenager is one thing - the people writing "You are our queen, stay strong, you are so creative; it's okay uwu, it's not your fault <3" are just retarded.
Echo chamber, echo chamber, UGH.
As if she is ever going to change at this rate - if I were being told that I deserve the world simply for existing and sitting on my lazy ass all day, doodling my OCs, I would probably have a meltdown as well, once I realize money won't come flying through my window. It just so happens this is part of becoming a fuckin' adult, instead of a free-spirited and careless teenager. Nobody owes you, Holls, please, PLEASE get that through your thick skull!
the people telling her ghosted etsy customers to "message her ANY other time, cause now is CLEARLY not the right time" are just so incredibly emberassing. Like they are her secretaries and money is NEVER as important as Holly's feelings, don't you know?!
After the whole Zine saga I would probably flip my shit like hell, if I were one of the etsy people. She just can't go on like this…
I for one can't wait for how bad Reese the rapist is. He's already as mess and he hasn't even appeared in the main comic. >>881441
"I tried everything this year but i'm still here." you didn't stick with anything long enough Holly.
I must admit, I reckon her history of tracing and being a bit of a scammer might be putting employers in the industry off if they google her>>881483
Agreed - it's disturbing, and if she's sincere then she needs more than these youtube commenters
i want her to be save, get help and find a place to be happy. >>881484
agreed, getting somewhere takes more time then three month
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I hate her fans so much, you wouldn't believe it.
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At this point she could probably start doing heroin on camera and her stans wouldn't care. I mean, it was joked for multiple threads on how braindead they were, but today we reach disturbing levels, my ladies and gents.
For the love of God, she needs to stop. All of these get rich quick schemes are only driving you deeper into debt. Being low-income myself, I know this mentality all too well. She needs to drop everything for a day and stick to getting a full-time job. Bite the bullet, swallow your ego and earn a steady paycheck and don't throw it away buying some crap you're not really committed to. Save your money and pay your debts.
Draw ONE comic at a time and finish it before jumping onto the next one. Even if you come up some new idea for something to sell on Etsy or a new comic, just write down in a word document/notebook and shelve it for later. Pull back on your side projects and stay dedicated to that single comic. Holly, you were born into a poor situation in life, that is true but you're only making it worse with these random ass schemes.
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please dont make her dredge that up, it was fixing to be worse than TRUST TRUST
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>I was just a big brown blob.
That’s way too naive of you anon. She’s blocked people on Twitter for politely offering their suggestions. Holly does NOT want real help, she wants validation.
This whole thing is another means to dodge responsibility for her actions and anyone suckered in at this point is an idiot.
Then message her yourself you fuckin idiot lmao
You're on a website dedicated to talking about cows and you honest to God think she's going to listen to any advice here? You're either extremely stupid or extremely gullible.
Everyone needs to quit with the 'lets pity Holly' train. She's done this before and she'll keep doing it. We're finally getting milk for once, stop trying to fuck with it.
I don’t get how anyone aside from stupid kids/teens could buy into this shit. How is anyone still feeling bad for her? Nothing happening to her is because of circumstances outside her control. It’s literally all her fault. She chose to do this Kickstarter, she chose to spend that money a laser and other unrelated things knowing that is wasn’t what the money was for. She chose to ignore messages on Etsy from customers. She chose to not work on the Kickstarter rewards and then chose to resort to lying to cover that fact. She made every major executive decision during the BnHA zine. She chose to shit on everyone else in the industry, chose to burn bridges. Everything. She’s made all her own choices and the moment she has to suffer literally any consequences, even people just politely ASKING QUESTIONS that the deserve honest answers to, she’s goes to her catchphrase of “X Y and/or Z are making me wanna die” and because the threat of suicide is always taken seriously (and with good reason) people back off and then she goes back to making her bad choices. Fuck off with your pathetic ass victim
Because she mentioned it before and her fans are like parrots.
Plus stop feeling sorry for her, stop being marks she's done this numerous times.
Her problem isn't that she doesn't make money, she's just extremely financially irresponsible. Doesn't know how to invest in her business or keep up one responsibly without giving up. Give a savvy person her dedicated audience and they would have bought a house by now.
I do not believe that she works three jobs, had a successful kickstarter, donations, patreon and still is broke. Then I see her buying cups in bulk and a payment plan Iphone X for no reason and I get what's really going on.
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Holly just uploaded this page unto Purgatory. I guess this page >>881249
really was the end of Book 2.
What a fucking disaster. This is like the most abrupt and shitty ending I think I've ever seen. And we even live in a post Season 8 of Game of Thrones world.
God, this is so fucking depressing. As much as I enjoy laughing at her terrible webcomics and general antics, she's noticeably deteriorated in the past year and a half or so.
>dropped out of online school with 50k debt>abandoned her YT channel that was fairly successful>Nuked half her social media>Shaved her head in the middle of the night on impulse>straight-up crying on camera about hating her life >Still hasn't fulfilled the kickstarter as she just sinks further into debt
She's so genuinely maladjusted and makes seemingly no effort get proper help instead of just buying expensive tools to make crappy merch of her OCs with.
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Apparently her shop wasn’t taken down by herself. It was suspended by Etsy.
i'm unreasonably mad about this. this is the clearest and surest sign that holly is 110% fujo and has zero other motivation in her art. not only did "book 1" end with a wet fart and the whole rape thing got bungled supreme, she skips through any relationship-building between these two whatsoever straight to marriage. are they going to have mpreg butt babies next? isnt that the next step in the fujo cliche? there's no development to either of their characters or their relationship because they're just two ken dolls for her to TRUST together. beyond being a bad writer, she literally does not care to develop these characters because they only exist to fulfill her fantasies. paranormal plague having a porn doujin before an entire chapter is released is the same thing. so transparent!>>881734
you cute, acting like the statutory rape isn't her favorite part and thinking she'd want anyone to forget that for a second. besides, a major change like that would make him unrecognizable, there's no diversity in the way she draws faces. even damien looks absolutely nothing like his earlier self with this "i'm in an mcr cover band now" haircut.
it's just an unplumbable, infinite void of badness. a doctoral thesis could be written on how bad every artistic decision in purgatory is. an unending amount of suck, that once investigated just reveals even more suck. holly is a vacuum of unoriginality and amateur talent.
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Can anyone familliar with etsy explain how that can happen?
In holly's case i guess it's because of her lateness and unresponsiveness
>>881801>Got her Etsy account suspended>doesn't hesitate for like… five seconds to think "oh, maybe I should make sure this is solved before I jump into some other quick-buck scam" and plans to sell mugs… on IG
Sounds like a plan, chief. Oh how she loves that quick buck.
I like to imagine the folks getting her ugly ass mugs could very well be the ones that still have to receive their kickstarter rewards AND etsy order/commission most likely. Talk about delayed gratification…
I don't actually have the experience, but I looked it up.>>881803http://iselaespana.com/etsy-shop-suspended-prevention-reinstatement/https://dbdc.us/articles/what-to-do-if-your-etsy-shop-gets-suspended/
Basically, you can get suspended for selling things you're not supposed to, for intellectual property reasons, for having too many charge backs, or for not selling handmade (like, reselling aliexpress stuff). They generally send you a warning email first and give you a week to figure it out before they shut you down. It's very difficult to get reinstated if you let yourself get shut down.
So Ash is basically just white female Reese. They literally have the same hair just flipped.
Honestly, I’m not surprised her Etsy account got taken down after seeing all the negative reviews on her store about never receiving items, being ghosted or arriving a year later. But she intends to sell on IG…. God she is so desperate for money it’s pathetic.
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She is acting like they just banned her random and not like she did violate the rules lol
Like get a grip on life holly
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Oh yes open another store, where you don‘t answer emails and ignore your customers. Also sounds like storenvy also banned her? Wouldn’t surprise me with that kinda of customer service.
seems like multiple accounts are forbidden too, pretty sure RazorLaser was only a company in name, not one she actually registered.
Either way, based on these ressources even a single chargeback can make your account eglible for suspension (and they make it pretty clear too), so….she definately could've prevented that?
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I mean, we all know her fans are retarded, but reading this actually made me think - we know her stans are mostly teenagers (12-16, I guess), so based on this I'm pretty sure they somehow make themselves believe Holly is a teenager as well?
Which would make sense, seeing the way they want to protect her from "the bad, bad, unfair world" and the mean criticism. Well, and why they think Hollys mum is supposed to do all the shopping, when Holly is a grown woman with (supposedly) three jobs.
(….I even saw someone suggesting to her going to a therapist at school)
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Congrats anon you were right, surprise surprise
Holy shit… I called it! (thanks anon!)
There’s no excuse for her backers not getting their copies now because this is just incredibly fucking shitty of her. She blew through 10k in less than what, 5 months??? Is this her way of thinking she’ll sell enough there to make up the money to ship the KS rewards out?
the cover looks so empty
so is this like the entire thing? or vol 1?
the cover looks so empty
so is this like the entire thing? or vol 1?
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She didn’t even check the listing, because the backside is just pixilated as fuck. The front looks „fine“. how lazy can you be?
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She posted her mugs on Instagram, and she's now using Shopify
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She posted her mugs on Instagram, and is now using Shopify
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She’s now jumped to Shopify for her next scam. Her followers are fucking dumb and illiterate if they didn’t see the scores of negative reviews on her Etsy. She’s going to pull the same shit there too because she refuses to change and in maybe another couple of months, that shop will be down as well.
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She 100% quit her jobs again. Come on it‘s not so hard to atleast take a day to set everything up properly before posting it.
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I agree with you, the pumpkin is actually pretty cute, but I went scrolling through the other pictures and I quickly noped out thanks to that ugly cat. It's a shame though, I think she did the ghost and cauldron rather well too and if it wasn't for that dumb cat this would actually be a pretty appealing mug. At least it doesn't have her fugly OCs on it I guess
I don’t know if this is intentional but the fact that some edges are not closed and others are so wobbly is giving me aids I can’t look at her shit without feeling weird there is nothing aesthetically pleasing about her work in the slightest.
It’s all so obvious fast cheap shit she is no better than Chinese resellers who slap the simplest designs on mugs to make it cute and sell them for like a dollar
>>881881>quit her jobs
are the jobs real? i mean the process from applying to first shift would seem to take longer than it does with her? and how does she get hired for so many jobs in this economy when her c.v. must be listing 10 places she worked 'for 1 day' 'for 2 days'
since i'm posting, i kind of wonder if i was the only person on here who heard her on stream saying how her dad was sexually abused at church and that's why he threw his life in the toilet. and that this was the whole inspiration for purgatory. So on the one hand you have someone escaping that situation to a happy ending like as a thing she might dream about for her dad. But on the other hand the obviously gets her cummies from the scenario? She's like visualising her dad being raped as a child and getting mad horny and probably spending hours a day in a trance jerking off over this?
Where did she say she quit her jobs? I can't find anything about that anywhere>>881912
Jesus… which stream was that on? Was it one of her recent ones? Do you happen to have a timestamp?
sorry I have no timestamp. I felt too bad to post about it at the time it. I feel like it was around the time she was talking about her dad's ?sword? or some antique arrow or something he left. but it may not have even been that stream
She said that she learned about it later in life. Not from him i don't think? or maybe? but also that's inconsistent with purgatory being based on it. maybe what she learned later was the specifics. sorry
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I flipped the cat and since i had to see that, you all have to, too
The back cover actually looks cool, its too bad the front is so empty and ugly
Also, there's been alot of comments going unsaved, guys please sage your comments unless your posting something milky, it bumps the thread and clutters the board, sage goes in the email feild
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>publication date: May 2019
As in… the month the Kickstarter backers were supposed to receive their books lol. Wow.
Also, a whole lotta nothing happens in those 207 pages so what’s the point?
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Shops up and running
I know we keep beating this dead horse but why would someone buy mugs and prints of a character that hasn't even been introduced yet? We know literally nothing about Reese aside from some random shit Holly's said on social media, most of which I don't even remember.
He cuts himself, he's Mexican or something, and I think maybe he was a prostitute? If you bought this mug and brought it to work, what the fuck would you say if someone asked who/what the character was? "Some lady's goth OC from a comic where he drugs and rapes someone"?
Don't forget he's also kidnapper and rapist (but it's ok because Hersheysquirt could've fought him off if he really
didn't want it!!!).
I mean…this is definitely one of the least bad things she's made. The colors are nice enough and I can see a rando buying this for a few bucks on impulse.>>881912
Never heard that story about her dad before but if it's true, that makes the final product that much more horrifying.
She implied it when she listed the first book in this post>>881860
I don’t see how she would have to go through editing like this again two times unless she’s going to upload purgatory book 2 and seize to amazon. I think she’s going to upload the epilogue when it’s done.
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New Epilogue Page for Purgatory
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(had to update my fellow Keithians)
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New Purgatory epilogue page
Wow, what a coincidence. Holly's not good at writing at all.
Was the thing regarding Sebastian fixing up Hitler Junior's arm and having the morphine supposed to be setting up/foreshadowing that he was gonna be a doctor in the future? That's like the laziest set up I have ever seen. She has it come up once at the very end and it turns out to be establishing that he has a background in medicine and became a physician. The saddest thing is is this is like the only set up/payoff thing that had a payoff that made sense. The set up was really rushed but the pay off made sense. everything esle she tried to set up didn't pay off in any satisfying way.>>881441>>881553
Holly also privated her most recent streams. Too bad we weren't able to get a thorough breakdown of them before she took them down, but at least we have our initial reactions as a record of the more important stuff she said.
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Holly was live-streaming on Instagram. So you got 24 hours to watch it. Here’s a quick run down of it.
>live-streaming herself going to work (in her car).
>applying to a new job so she could quit all 3 job.
>it’s another art job. She’s hoping a minimum of $15, but what $25 an hour. (Good luck)
>I want to add that I don’t live far from Holly. I recognize the mall she’s at and it does have a Disney store in it (which she complains about a lot in the stream).
>Is purposely trying to get fired from her jobs because she hates them that much.
>Work tells her to smile more (lol)
> She claims her Etsy store got shutdown because someone filed a complaint to her RazorLazer store. They apparently then filed to her personal ETSY as well. Since she was already on Etsy’s shit list they shut it down. (The way she describes this story is a bit sketchy though. Don’t know if I’d fully believe it.)
>complains that Shopify has high fees of about $30(?) a month and says she doesn’t make much from sales anymore.
>talks about Amazon books.
>Only sold 5. (Lol)
>garbage teen fans telling her to not go to work.
>said she’ll live-stream later on again today (don’t know if it’ll be YouTube or Instagram)
I hope she isn't trying to get fired to try and collect unemployment because that's not how it works and that's what it sounds like she's trying to do. But it's extremely difficult to get the govt to file you unemployment, especially if you don't have a good enough reason. And doing a shit tier job isn't a reason.
She doesn't have three jobs.
It's the Disney store, her online shop and whatever comic she claims she's working on that she thinks justifies her calling it a job.
. Doing a shit job to get fired, is she 16???
And another graphic design job, holly, you will NOT find a graphic design job where they let you do whatever you want. You will always have someone who tells you what to do. If she gets it she won't last, sadly, because she really just needs to adjust her entire work ethic.
she says on the livestream that the graphic design job isn't really for graphic design, the only requirement is to know how to make vector illustrations in Illustrator. Those kind of jobs are usually very badly payed because the skill levels you need aren't that high.
Book-wise, im not from the states and here amazon is just not available so can someone explain how their book selling works? Does Holly still have to package/ship all the books she buys through them?? Isn't that just more work for her? specially since she hasn't even shipped the ones from the KS?
Yep! It gave her panic attacks to have to use Corel Draw instead of Illustrator apparently.
How many times is she going to do this cycle before she realises it doesn't work? Like, just looking back at the sheer number of jobs she's taken just this year and then left immediately after should tell her she needs to chill out and just dedicate herself to one that she can handle and save. I know she's desperate for money and thought that the Kickstarter was somehow going to fund her new car and future apartment for years to come despite being told that's not how it works, but quitting 20 jobs in a year isn't great for the bottom line either. She has to grow up and realise that no job is perfect and all of them are disappointing and shitty in some way, and there will always be someone higher up on the totem pole telling you what to do.
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She also showed an update on her hair growth
I dunno if anyone will bother with Holly callouts anymore. The tracing drama pretty much ruined her even though it was super minor in the scheme of shitty things she's done1. She went from being one of the bigger artists in the community to a nobody because instead of just apologizing she scrubbed her presence online. It'd be kicking a dog while they're down at this point.
Still can't believe she managed to go through the 10k from the Kickstarter in less than half a year, though. We know 3k went to the printer. Her car payment is so incredibly high I wonder if she even paid a down payment. If not, what has she used the rest of that money for?
buying mugs, buying the wood and wood finishes or whatever that she used the laser cutter on to make all of those dumbass designs, etc. maybe she actually saved some of it or put it down on her student debt, but her track record makes that unlikely. did she get her new expensive phone during that period?
i’ve been here since maybe the 2nd thread, and it feels surreal to look back and see someone who was once a normal amount of trashy just spiral more and more downward. she may have disliked college and struggled w/ it, but i think the routine and the fact that she had a goal to work towards was good for her. she was so close to getting her degree, and even if she just became an art teacher or something else she didn’t love to do, at least she could say she accomplished something. making vlogs showing all the “work” she did too seemed to motivate her. i mean she still livestreams and documents her life online, only now it’s just pity party after pity party. truly an example of “what you SHOULDN’T do as an art student/online artist/person in general”.
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>Holly BRown working at a Disney Store in a mall c.2019 colorized
Lol bought more blank pencil cases to put her characters on while simultaneously complaining about all her bills and how much shipping the KS while not working on materials for said KS??????
I mean I get she’s young and shit (a yearbook younger than myself) but I don’t get how you can be playing 4d chess with justifying buying more crap??? Holy go to a therapist.
Exactly, like we know you don't like it and you think it's a waste. But to me Inktober (for example) is about experimenting and trying new supplies if you want to.
The fact she's also bitching about Mission Gold watercolours being $50 like suck it up buttercup. If you don't want to spend the money on your craft, don't bitch about the price of art supplies. (sage for rants)
russian art channel? anyone have any idea who it might be?
who the heck would even want to interview her?
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He scares me
Also she thinks references are stupid and that they don't matter.
I hope her manager finds this stream, she's been talking bad about them(:/)
Thanks for the clarification. Also, be careful >>883458
anon. You're not supposed to use emojis on these forums. I don't want you to get banned. Here are the rules if you need them: https://lolcow.farm/rules
Sorry, I'm so used to using them that when I come on here I forget
Thanks for the reminder!
I was just about to point that out like what the fuck Holly Brown? Money can't fix everything and some people don't have good access to mental health services. Mental Health is more complicated than 'have money? You're healthy now.'
She is also shitting on people who looked at her when she made a bad joke.
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Someone actually paid money for a page of asses.
And they’re alllllllll flat. Why would someone willingly give her money to draw flat, leaning asses?
I caught part of the stream earlier where she was giving the WORST job search advice I’ve ever heard. Including her “I fill out 300 applications a day, I don’t care.”
But damn, I’ve never tuned in for more than a few minutes before for her videos but I had it playing for a half hour while doing chores and I had to turn it off because it was just so fucking depressing. The amount of times she shits on herself for sympathy is just sad and pathetic.
It's easy to burn through 10k if you have no sense. >>883395
Why is she so damn miserable? There is depression, and then there is purposefully trying to make your life worse by just hyper-focusing on every little minor annoyance/inconvenience.
The sad part is that it's actually believable that she'd say something that fucking dumb.>>883606
I don't even know if I buy she has depression anymore. Anyone who is lazy, unmotivated and self-destructive can go get a depression diagnosis. I remember (a long time ago) when she talked about her self-harm and how she did it because tumblr made it look cool. It makes me wonder how much of her deteriorating mental state is self-inflicted vs. actual mental illness.
I do mostly believe her when she talks about how bad her mental health is, and the extent of her scars is beyond what you'd expect from someone who's trying to "look cool". If anything, I think trying to wave it off like that is more of an edgelord thing to do than admit that you had a hard time.
That said the cause barely even matters at this point, there's clearly something
wrong with her whether it's depression or something else causing her to fuck up her life so consistently.
she also said in the ig stream that her mom monitors her schedule, so if she comes home early she'll know something happened at the job.>>883711
iirc her mom is a teacher for special needs kids
anyone know what happened with the job from the ig stream? i remember she couldn't eneter through the gate so she was late
You forgot the wildest bit>talks about how SanJapan fucked her financially>"Idk I guess I can't do things with other people because it always ends in disaster"
How does one even come to that conclusion?
WHY did she not only go to SanJapan with basically no merch but also let TD leech off of her for the hotel and table when she had this much debt? She said in that same clip that she was skipping food and doesn't have money to ship the kickstarter rewards, but she bought wholesale mugs that no one expressed interest in? Terrible.
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She also made a new post on Instagram
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And speak of the devil, she did post new Epilogue pages
I wonder if her mom helps her with any bills at all. I can't blame her if she doesn't, tbh. >>883764
Honestly the fact that TD thought it was even remotely ok to ask Holly to foot the entire bill despite having a husband with an income where Holly is in a constant state of hemorrhaging money is deplorable. Holly sucks but TD sucks more. What a fucking awful friend.
Aww I think it's cute, cat and all…
but it kinda looks like the cat's balls are showing or something
Is Simon's last name, Tartokovsky, supposed to be like "tart"? And Damien's last name is Sugar. So like, tart and sweet?>>883850
Damn Holly, no one wants you dead
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this gets worse and worse and worse by the page. what the fuck is the tone jump from 'we just barely escaped, your rapist died, and surprise ive known about it for a while' to the most awkwardly written romantic fluff? who wants this? who's even invested this much in their characters? she's built no real romantic history into the whole fucking book. why is she wasting her time on this instead of literally anything else?
I'll give her that one, it was mentioned on a previous page that Damian can't spell for shit
it's dumb, but it's a connected joke
I subscribe to the theory that the reason Damian can’t think of literally anything meaningful to put in his vows to Simon is that Holly didn’t write any history for their relationship and he he draws a complete blank for most of the time they were together.
Either that or their time together didn’t mean shit and had about as much impact on him as this whole comic did the reader.
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Was the sublimation printer and heat press another purchase with the Kickstarter funds? I must have missed that.
$300 in the red in her bank account according to her but still manages to hoard more shit no one will buy.
i don't understand why her dumbass didn't buy a used car and pay for it all up front. this would've been smarter considering how much she drives her finances into the dirt constantly
and the student loans holy shit. why the fuck didn't she just finish school? all this payment for nothing. i've lost all sympathy for this retard
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Haven’t posted on a Holly thread in ages, but nothing she’s ever done has gotten on my nerves as much as the suicide-baiting. What a manipulative and bullshit way to weasel your way out of blame for scamming your KS backers and whoever else that's been gypped. And those poor suckers are falling for it.
Customers asking about the shit they paid for that you wont send aren't death threats, Holly. Get a fucking grip.
Not once have I heard her hold herself accountable for all the misery she’s in at the moment. Stop making the people you owe feel guilty for the hole you dug yourself in. Gain some self-awareness and get your shit together.
Hasn't she mentioned that she names her characters after sweets most of the time?>>883985
holly reminds me of a family member who doesn't love anyone and thinks everyone is jealous of and against her, fails in everything she tries because of her own mistakes but never ever admits to it, it's always people's fault, people who envy her caused her problems, if a problem starts in the house she starts throwing table salt to exorcise the evil spirits that were brought because of people's envy, if someone's sick, it's people's fault,even tho there's nothing about her that would make people jealous, she's extremely delusional.
sorry for blogging but I can't help but see the similarities, i think holly has trust issues and doesn't really love anyone let alone take advice from them,
i had sympathy for her because i have mental issues that make me give up of stuff after a while but i try to never affect others by it so her mental state isn't an excuse,
i still feel bad for her but I can't think of a way to help her at all.
my family member i talked about is at her late 30s with two degrees but with an unrelated job because she chickens out of serious jobs, she never changed.(no1curr)
All the suicide baiting is so people won’t be mean to her when she knowingly fucks up.
She’s not doing things like being a year and a half late on KS, maxing out her school loans without finishing, buying expensive useless shit, pushing away almost everyone in her life away by shit talking them and then never apologizing to them, shitting on and scamming her fan base , and accepting high payment plans from scammers on “accident”. None of those things were on accident, it was her own fucking fault over and over again. It’s no wonder why she had 19 threads in only two years.
She won’t learn, she chooses not to learn and is insane because she’s been doing the same shit over and over again and expects something different to happen every time.
Stop feeling sorry for her, she has not changed at all. She won’t now because that requires reflecting on how she fucked get own life up and god forbid something actually be her own fault.
Her mental state is not directly causing any of this. Sure it can be affected by how much she fucks up and the backlash from it, the depressing talk is probably genuine because of that.
But it’s still on her and her responsibility to take care of it herself, no amount of people going “I feel bad for you Holly because I’m mentally fucked up too.” Is going to fix it for her, if the internet has toxic
hate mobs coming after her then she should leave or limit how much time she can spend on it.
Or maybe her mom should because she’s already managing her time for her like the responsible adult Holly should have a clue at being by now.
It’s not 2017 anymore, Holly needs to grow up and get a fucking grip on her life. Stop blaming everyone else, stop blamin your mental state, stop blaming everything but yourself for your situation. Once she realizes it’s her own fault is for this is when she can change it, because she then might be able to change herself for once in her fucking life.
Edit for spelling
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I'm not sure if she's actively manipulative or genuinely delusional. I guess in her mind, people asking her to straighten her shit out and stop scamming naive chumps out of their money via her various stores is the same as telling her to die.>>883970>My life is hell and I can't take it and I'm really poor haha my family member is dying and I've been supporting them anyways, here's my store idk :) Sorry the kickstarter is late I might kill myself after :)
This is not it lmao. I actually hope someone local calls the cops on her or something for her recent suicide threats, it might actually do her some good to be forced away from her terrible habits.
oh wow, she actually tries to sell herself as a "professional at formatting", so she can make a quick buck - but at least she has to laugh herself at this, can't even take her own shit seriously anymore.
I'm flabbergasted she still doesn't understand her audience. They are teenagers, on comission and pocket money level. if she wants to sell her services it should cater to them, not herself.
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She would have saved a lot of time if she uses clip studio painthttps://tips.clip-studio.com/en-us/articles/749
Its pretty stupid that's she is still using photoshop instead of using software that's ment for comics.
What was her piss poor excuse not using it again?
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Still no pictures of the actual books… Pics of envelopes aren’t enough to make your lies believable, Holly.
alright, so who else thinks this is actually her finally getting together all the stuff to START shipping out the KS books since the epilogue was recently posted? w/ any other artist, you might believe that they shipped out ks books before posting the whole story online so that the backers got their money’s worth, but we all know holly was posting the “re-draws” immediately after doing them bc she has zero patience, so she wasn’t even able to print the books until she finished that.
there’s seriously something wrong with the lengths that she goes to in order to cover up her scamming and laziness. it used to be cute to see what kind of dumb explanation(s)/excuses she would give ppl, but using mental illness as one? Seriously? if she’s at the point where she has suicidal ideation regularly or where she feels like she has no control over her life, then she needs to see a therapist asap. does she have a stigma against them or something? bc you would think that she would have seen one a long time ago, but iirc she’s never talked about seeing one or considering it, only about meds she has taken.
Tbh I wouldn’t be surprised if someone asked her to see a therapist and she stubbornly refused to do it out of spite since she hates being given advice, no matter how well intentioned it is.
But yeah, it’s getting real old seeing her use a mental illness as an excuse to deflect blame, procrastinate and generally treat her fans like garbage. It’s irritating that none of her fans have a backbone to stand up to her and demand actual answers and not excuses.
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True but she's paying 600 a month for a car she didn't need in place of a simple beater, a brand new iPhone instead of a cheap phone, 70$ for PS instead of literally anything else, ect.
She could afford mental health help if she prioritized it over her coping mechanism. Buying bullshit to feel validated.
You're right. Each time she's pulled one of her scams, she's made less and less money from them. Her patreon now compared to her last go at it is significantly lower. She isn't generating any income and what little she makes she spend on dumb shit, I doubt she's paying her loans and car payments, at least not without help.
Her mom isn't going to be around forever to bail her out, so she needs to come up with something a little more substantial than quick schemes that never last more than a month.
To be fair, I think she was saying that she kept having to reformat the pages of the comic/epilogue for amazon's print-on-demand service (to sell the books on amazon), not for her supposedly already printed KS books (that she ended up getting printed somewhere else IIRC, because she couldn't figure out how to get amazon to accept the files).
However, the fact that she hasn't shown any printed copies speaks for itself. I also don't get why she would make a formatting tutorial when afaik she hasn't even seen the physical copy of the book she just put up for sale on amazon. In her video, it looked like a lot of the art is going to be trimmed off (she only showed a few pages, but a handful of times half of the characters' faces/bodies were in the area that gets trimmed or squished in the spine). Unless I understand bleed/trim wrong.
I was actually wondering about this too - most of the stuff she showed in the video doesn't follow a single rule she set up beforehand, no trim, no edges, nothing.
Even months ago she claimed the KS books would be printed through Amazon (she had a different company in mind originally, but of course "they" weren't good enough for her), so I doubt anything related to Kickstarter has been done by now, since she would certainly have shown anything.
Thinking about the pledges, didn't she make charms a possible reward too? Despite selling the laser?
Yes she did. She sold it after San Japan after doing poorly there. >>884739
From the looks of it she made the items in advance so she’s probably just been sitting on the rewards for a while. She showed them off durning her last stream or so.
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2/2 An update from her youtube.
Oh dear god… She needs to get professional help ASAP. I can’t imagine the harm she’ll do once her teenage fans are subjected to her misinformed babbling. This bitch isn’t qualified to speak about mental health issues just because she cut herself multiple times.
This is only going to end badly like all her get rich quick schemes.
Anything Holly does now is in pursuit of money and that in itself is incredibly sad.
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There’s at least one person taking sense while the others continue to kiss her ass.
Holly is so blinded by her need to make money as fast as humanly possible that she continues to self-sabotage. Watch as she’ll offer completely contradictory advice over Skillshare compared to what she shows in streams. Keep talking out of your ass Holly, you’ll quit after one session when you don’t get the views you hoped for and then it’s back to filling out the “hundreds” of retail applications.
A clearly unstable young woman giving ANY sort of mental health advice is absolute last thing Holly's fans need, since many of them are young/mentally ill/both. I can't even imagine what kind of god awful "coping" techniques she has. Who even wants advice from someone who talks about committing suicide daily? She might not be cutting anymore but she's still actively self-harming by sabotaging her life at every turn.
And if her "tips" are anything like her art tutorials….
>>884439>CSP, a well-developed, affordable program made for comic artists: waste of money>1k animation software she used for 3 weeks: somehow not a waste of money
This is actually infuriating, being mentally ill does not in ANY way qualify you to give advice on how to cope, especially because her life seems to be coming apart at the seams as we speak. What's her advice going to be, "just go for a walk or vaguely threaten suicide on your instagram story lol idk"?
This. Holly has NO working coping mechanisms. If she feels unwell, she spends as much money as she can and makes elaborate plans on how to get money while only drawing her OCs, that's neither healthy nor sustainable - her life is a literal downward-spiral and whenever she crashes from her "coping" she talks about suicide like going to a candy store.
She also has no caring personality whatsoever - she can't take care of herself (mentally and to some degree physically), so I doubt she can show actual compassion or understanding towards people in similar situations. People with mental health struggles have earned something better.>>884808
The last bit about her misspelling her email is….what even? Is she telling us there is no way to change the email adress afterwards? Well, another clue on her carelessness then
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Well at least she is smarter than Holly Conrad.
Wonder what she is going to do now though she did claim to have quit a job. Is she going to put everything into Skill share now?
especially since she already quit her job (wow, what a surprise). She acts like you get showered with money the moment you start something new - she really has no clue how long and how much work it takes to make a steady income as a freelancer (since freelancing is obviously her goal, for some reason. Paychecks seem to be beneath her)
She simply has no clue about life and she makes no effort to change that
While I technically agree with you (and so do many of her fans, I believe), taking a break from her channel would almost certainly equal "not making any money" for her, at this point. While I think focusing on mental health is important, Holly IS an adult with a shitload of monthly bills to pay, so "taking a break" isn't really an option anymore. It would most likely only rid her of the last focus she has for anything.
"Focusing on life" sounds nice, but what does she have to focus on? No close friends, living at home with a family she low-key dislikes, probably hates drawing at this point and thinks most hobbies are a waste of time.
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One problem is that she thinks she's better than everyone else and is above shit like retail when she has 0 qualifications or skills beyond knowing her way around Photoshop. She really seems to think she's so smart that she deserves an income with minimum work, just as soon as she schemes something up. She should've kept that first graphic design job she had because she honestly struck gold by landing it. It didn't pay much but it was still almost double retail wages (like 12/hr I think?). Not to mention she would've been able to build skill and a portfolio to eventually move on to better paying work or even freelancing on the side.
But she blew it for stupid reasons after 1 week and is now surprised she's stuck working shitty jobs.
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“Hi y’all I’ve decided to quit one of my jobs and start something new.”
Glad she listened to the input, but way to misinterpret people's issues with her casually mentioning suicide constantly as "I shouldn't be talking about mental health because people take shit the wrong way".
Being a freelancer is stressful and hard, especially if you have mental health issues, finding a full-time retail or bartending job somewhere to buckle down and pay her bills until she can get something better instead of spreading herself thin and wasting time and money with all these schemes would actually make sense.
Holly, since I'm sure you still lurk: get a real job, skillshare won't make you money.
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From her Kickstarter
She already knows this, she doesn’t want to face the truth that she makes bad decisions because that would make her even more depressed.
In the real world you have to own up for your shit and that means doing work you don’t want to do.
She doesn’t want to work because she wants free money.
She wants to be taken care of.
She is still a child and doesn’t want to grow up.
….she isn't seriously thinking skillshare needs a video on how to make CUSTOM BRUSHES. The whole internet is full with ressources about these topics - of course she won't make any money, if she does the same stuff that other people have done before end quite probably BETTER. I can already hear her, blaming the website and the people behind it for not making any money "Idk, they just seem to hate me, hahaha, maybe I earned it, Idk, but like comics is what I'm best at, so I guess no one wants me to be happy, idk"
just…use your brain for once Holly, pretty please?
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>I don’t want to leave people hanging for long
It’s same shit she pulled with her Etsy when she couldn’t be bothered to ship people’s orders. Just refund it. I honestly hope she ends up having to refund the $10k but her followers are way too forgiving and she definitely doesn’t deserve their sympathy for the way she treats them.
this is just stupid.
The books EXIST, at least in theory, if they are on Amazon. Why can't she just get off her lazy ass and send the stuff?
ike, if I remember it's like 50 orders, you don't need MONTHS to package 50 parcels. Why is she making it harder for herself??? She doesn't have the money to afford refunding, that's certain.
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They let her off the hook far too often to the point where they’ll just consider their pledge a donation if she never ships it. This is why she’s able to continue scamming and being a lazy irresponsible shit.
Honestly, I hope she never ships them and she gets into hot shit with her most trusting fans.
I want her to fail so she fucking wakes up and realizes she needs to fucking man up and work for once.
Anon, sorry to burst it to you, but you sound salty as fuck here.
Yeah, I get that her zine was a trainwreck, but that was such a long time ago (and back then NONE of the involved artists would step forward, you included it seems), so I doubt her fans are fazed by that.
I also hope to the speghetti monster god that people will stop screaming for "call out" videos. She has no following to speak of. NONE. Her career is basically destroyed and the people still showering her with money are probably too dumb to tie their shoes correctly, so I would say "pot meet kettle" and move on. She isn't a problem for the art community anymore, she isn't even a part of it at this point. She has been cancelled completely.
No point in shoving it into her face just for the shits and giggles, anyone making a video on her now would just look petty as fuck if I'm honest.
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New Epilogue pages
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It sure is Holly's mood at least.
Vote for next thread pic.>>885739
When did bottom panel ever happen in the actual comic? She did zero work to build this relationship, they don't seem to like each other for any particular reason, it's dubious how they even became friends, nevermind a couple, and both seem absolutely miserable about getting married. The main story as completely incoherent but at least there was some
sort of through-line.
that's exactly what i was trying to say
there is no actual chimestry between them, Simon even shows more emotions talking to Hitler's son, they almost look sad that they are getting married
This entire comic has shown me that Holly doesn’t even understand those tropes despite so much exposure to them. In this there are tons of tropes that start and don’t really go anywhere before the next one introduced in this horribly disjointed cluckerfuck of a “story”. There are cardboard cutouts with more depth. My fucking breakfast had more personality that everyone in this comic combined. Even more than understanding the tropes she doesn’t know how to tell a basic story or write a character at ALL. Before I came here I watched one of her videos in my recommendations about how to write gay characters. In that she some of her advice actually sounded reasonable and because it did I checked out her comic. I thought her art was mediocre but good writing can carry bad art, right? Imagine my fucking astonishment reading this shit. I thought the beginning was probably only this bad because it was her early work, surely the recent chapters are better, right? WRONG. Somehow it got even WORSE. Made me come to the realization that any good or sound advice coming from her is likely parroted from another more valid
and experienced source because she sure as hell can’t follow any of that advice. I wasn’t even surprised when I discovered these threads.
Holly, fucking finish this shit already. No amount of redrawing can inject some fucking life into these characters. >>885738
Why do I get the fucking feeling she wrote this entire joke of a comic for this scene and the scene with the Hitler rape? It genuinely feels like she wanted the rape to be the conflict, this to be the “deep” conclusion and no fucking idea how to connect those two ideas so got all this disjointed shit in the middle.
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It happens in the first few pages of the comic, when Damien comes over to Simon's house for a sleepover and they share a bed.
Your point still stands though. They're relationship is really rushed and hardly makes an impact. I would dare say the rape plot had more development than their relationship, which just shows how bad Holly's writing skills are since this is supposed to be a boy love comic. Way to go, Holly. You made a boy love comic focus more on one of the boys getting raped and groomed by some rando Hitler than the actual fucking boy love.
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New Instagram Post
It looks like it's growing out of his head like a unicorn horn.>>885885
Homegirl definitely has a rape fetish.>>885950
I legit thought that line was a cat hair, what with how dirty her living space is.
Ok this whole epilogue is seriously reading as if Simon has realised his relationship and marriage to Damien is pointless and boring and he's gonna run away to Hitler Jr's arms (someone he DOES have history and chemistry with and seems weirdly invested in his honeymoon).
I think Holly forgot that all the build up she's had of their relationship was solely in her head, so she thinks the pacing and the progression of their relationship makes sense. Narratively it doesn't at all, because the reader doesn't see any of it. From the start of Purgatory, we saw them make out in a library and cuddle in bed. Then Simon gets raped, and they makeout (and more?) some more. There's a time skip and then they murder the rapist and leave. They literally have like maybe 3 romantic scenes in the comic and they're pretty low key. We never saw them fall in love.
I think this is also why she pushes the fuck out of merch for PP, even though the comic has never surpassed 5 pages. She's spent years fantasizing about them in her head and thinks that's good enough for everyone, then is surprised people don't want a mug of her greasy slutty self-insert character.
I’m glad the best character in this whole things back for the finale. Welcome back brick walls!
I really missed Holly’s shitty hand drawn bricks for some reason. They have more organic character and charm than any characters in this fucking comic.
>>886068>we never saw them fall in love
because holly has no idea how to write romance. every single subject she's ever written about is so fucking hamfisted. she can't even handle a rape storyline with any sort of tact, she did a better job of making the rapist look sympathetic than the victim
. all she knows how to do is gross cringy hentai plotlines.>>886084
Her ass isn't just flat, it's sagging. No wonder herschel looks so unimpressed.
Also I cannot unsee the weird shape of that bed, she never draws through her figures she just draws around them each and every time l, and hopes it's not too wonky.
I think part of why Holly is so astonishingly bad at writing human relationships is because she has no idea how people interact or react to things. She watches anime and reads manga and pays no attention to anything beyond that, you can't really work with that. There are 15 year olds writing gay fanfic that has more depth. >>886084
She puts more effort into the bricks that anything else, let's be honest.