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Holly Brown is a artist YouTuber who specializes in hypocrisy, terrible anatomy and most importantly starting projects she can never finish.
Youtube (Vlog Channel): https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgeEynuhGskPjgNR5DjbZmw/feed
Her Website: https://www.hollycbrown.com/
Her Store: http://hollybrown.storenvy.com/#_=_
The CalArts Rant she is known for:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvnD-9XOs5k
>21 year old freelancer artist who does youtube, lives with her mom (aunt), and runs an online store>She hates her brother and constantly sperges about him whenever she gets a chance. Was known to keep bashing him on a live stream once (way after he went away)>Takes on too many projects at once, then complains about it afterwards>Constantly bitches on twitter>Is a big hypocrite, the type to give advice and then do the total oppisite>Thinks she is a professional hardworking artist when in reality she is a stay at home slob who can never finish anything>Shits on other artist>Always talks about how she doesn't have money and how ""poor"" she is but is constantly seen (and broadcast on twitter/social media) buying unnesssary items>When she buys said items, she brags about how great they are, then is known to disregard them (usually sell them) about a week or so after using them>Always talks about trying to earn money from various art projects, but it never works>Cant take criticism to save her life, she will usually respond with something passive or aggressive or blame it on her style.>Is a complete FUJO, but yet complains about Fujoshis, a total hypocrite>Hates women and just wants to draw "teh gays">Has no friends and is cooped up inside her house. Her room is very filthy.>Cant spell or write for shit. Has terrible grammar anything she writes is confusing. (Also goes and shits on people for not knowing how to spell)>Has a terrible personality in general
In The Previous Thread:>Normal Usual holly shit: Cant manage money, selling and buying things on whim, cleaning up her room little by little>Finally got a gym membership, and is getting out the house. Is trying to cook but fucks things up and cant follow recipes.> Creates a "hot yaoi smex doujin" (gay porn comic) but it has terrible anatomy and is generally repulsive. The said comic features her characters Reese and Hershel. Reese kidnaps Hershel and rapes him. (To Note: She always complains about Fujos putting rape and heteronormative characters in their stories…yet does the exact same thing herself). The comic is named, "Seize" It can be found here: http://hollybrown.storenvy.com/products/23942157-seize-nsfw-mini-comic >Also creates a BNHA (Boku No Hero Academia/My Hero Academia) Zine. She starts off by saying she hired 100 artist- but the number is seen to fluctuate (80,60 ect) when Brown describes it. The Zine is called "True Colors" because of the horrendous color pallet she forced everyone to use. The Zine Can be found here: https://tictail.com/truecolorsmha/true-colors-zine-mha > First off, she is late for the deadlines with her own art for the zine, she will not release the PDF to the particpating artist, says she will make many copies but currenrly just has supplies for around 50 copies, Her art peices look shitty (as normal) but at least the other artist are good>She is fucking the artist over because they are young and dont know any better>Constantly gets angry whenever someone ask questions about the zine and its progress> """Redisning""" some of her characters but they pretty much still look the same, ended up whitewashing Princess (her black girl oc) and claims she is more cuter>Her brother returns and is living with her again (at her aunts)> Went on a Keto diet for about a day, then quits
>Is gonna go to SanJapan Convention, but still is lagging due to putting too much on her plate
>Projects List: Hamilton Animatic, Clever Kitchen, Convention Stuff, Paranormal Plague, Purgatory (redrawing/inking)
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I knew Holly would fail this diet, she decided to start on a whim without going into extensive preparation/research on how difficult it was going to be and she kept boasting about how easy it looked (it was apparent from this attitude that her energy would burn out quickly) She also wasted her money on useless shit yet again on those ketone strips/ingredients. I think she also bought a recipe book for it instead of getting free recipes online? Also wtf does she mean "i feel like this diet is designed for people who don't cook much" that's literally the opposite of the diet. She probably didn't stick to the diet at all.
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I wouldn't be surprised if she did, but it'd be mega funny if no one took her up on her challenge. She already gets enough fan art of her shit tier OCs, and she's late to the challenge anyway.>>646955
Her characters are always stiff and have no sense of weight. That's what not doing life drawing studies gets you. She's too concerned about her OCs looking 'cool' than it looking like what they're doing makes any sense. She doesn't have any confidence in her line/form.
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@holly you know you can file them to a more flattering shape right? The default square tip is horrid. Try a stiletto it'll look way cuter
Although I doubt this press on phase will last its a really refreshing change from her relentlessly dirty real nails.
If I remember correctly,she said it was like "getting free fan art"
Also, I can't get over how Holly messed up those legs. The left knee's position implies that the left leg is raised above the right, yet the feet meet in the same place. How could you mess that up?
Seriously! If you work a lot with your hands, the last thing you'd think about is "hm, how about some press-on nails!" At least I know it'd be super distracting trying to draw while some fake nails dig into my palm.
All she had to do was go get a simple manicure to make her natural nails look less gross, and get a neutral or clear protective coating of nail polish. Those press-ons aren't doing her any favors whatsoever, not in looks or in function.
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She just needs to moisturize but it's a step in the right direction at least.
Filing the nails into a better shape/ and shorter would probably be better for her because drawing with long nails is pain in the ass.
but enough nail talk, her character for her animation is so tragic to look at. And because of the stupid look, she's having a difficult time animating him (not that she isn't already has a hard time in general animating this) Why does she insist on making her characters so goofy looking?
Saged bc mild blog post but I'm a full time artist who paints, draws and sculpts and I always have a full set of long sharp acrylics.
I used to think they would get in the way of my artwork but they really don't especially when you're super used to them.
Holly will likely ditch them soon anyway if they inconvenience her mildly before she's used to them as beauty clearly isn't a priority for her.
His nose is getting higher and higher jfc.
I'm used to animation styles and characters with weird proportions/weird faces. But I guess what bothers me a lot here is that only the nose is crazy wild and the rest of his face is exactly how she draws her normal characters.
Great to see I wasn't the only one who saw that.
Kind of sad to see her still make amateur mistakes like this after all this time.
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She's surprisingly predictable
well thats one way to get free art but anyway these are actually pretty good
Kinda sad seeing all these skilled people follow and like someone with such a shit attitude
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The difference between Damiens hair bothers me so much.
The first one is eh, like holly's it's pretty dead-on, but still miles better. (the left foot kinda bothers me though) The second one, whoever drew that, it's great, I genuinely mean that.
I just wished they'd save their efforts for something better than a trash person with shit tier OCs.
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It's probably just there as some kind of wish fulfillment to Holly.
But you know Holly BRown, always choosing the "best" and expensive option first before putting in any effort to solve anything by herself.
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This is the OC holly drew in her "style" ofc she had to give him the amstupid dreamworks snarl. His arms also look weird, like they arent connected properly to his body
I hate water. People say it has no taste but it does have a distinct flavor that I personally dislike. >>647908
The original was so cute! Fingers do look a bit wonky but not overtly so to be too distracting. I think the main problem with the way Holly draws hands is that they are drawn in such a way that they draw too much attention to how weird they look. Like it looks like Holly draws hands completely separate from the whole piece and then just pastes them on.
I know what you’re referring to and it has to do with how “hard” the water is. Not all water taste the same, so maybe try different brands/springs and see if you find one that has no taste.
Sorry for the OT
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Goddamn this is so stupid.
Yikes, maybe she should've put that toward something productive like the….
Nevermind. Fuck this, I give up.
Didn’t another anon say she opened donations?
I honestly don’t understand lotto winners. How could anyone feel justified in keeping any of this unearned money?
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The body is so off. The hand and torso are too small.
Also Holly seems to only retweet the "good" fan art. There are comments on her original tweet with pictures that aren't as "good" but those weren't retweeted and I'm not even sure she liked them. It feels weird to me. It's like she only wants to show off her talented followers.
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From her Patreon Goals section:
>"I'd like to use NSFW comics-"
…??? I'm assuming she meant "make"
But the bigger question is,>>648161
If she's making $260/month on Patreon, why would she open donations
Also, I can't see the justification of being her patron the way people who are supporting her can…what exactly is it that she's doing? Seize has physical copies, but wasn't it supposed to be a one-off thing? Did she have other ideas for crappy nsfw comics (like that one with the elf dom and that skinny slave boy??)
I genuinely don't get the appeal.
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Is it common to bring lightboxes to cons?? I dont know enough but i thought that artists just offered quick sketch comissions and sometimes color them
It's never that serious, no.
Also not that serious, but it bugs me when people type "smol" instead of "small" it just irks me. Like it's trying too hard to be cute and it's just not.
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from one fish ownder to another: holly..please take care of your tank
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I find it amazing that Holly retweeted this, seen how much she hates “mermaids with knees”.
i sincerely hope it isn't true that someone ordered 50 books.
Actually this reminds me of those fucking Avon sales things or a pyramid scheme where people buy multiple products from a source and then try to sell them back at people. it's hard to move product like that.
I think it's a pretty shit thing to say the books probably won't sell, when she had the privilege of working with so many excellent artists and pretty much screwed them over because most of them didn't know the value of their time and effort.
if anyone in the zine is reading this, please, sell your individual pieces as prints and don't let holly be your middleman.
I kinda have no sympathy, if you really wanted to buy from Holly (fucking 50 as well) you really should have done more research on Holly and you'd realise that that's a bad idea, and you would have seen what she was trying to do. There has been loads of redflags; kept delaying the Zine, radio silence about the zine, her taking a week 'break' to sleep lol, the pyramid scheme for the zine, no communication (hardly any emails), how she kept changing the number of how many ppl are in the Zine, passive aggressive tweets and responses about the Zine, general disorganisation, lying about her qualification although that maybe nitpicking. If you're willing to buy FIFTY fucking books from her after all that. It's on you.
She meant the zine, that’d make more sense as it means somebody is actually wanting to sell their own copies maybe at a booth or on their personal store… you know like being able to sketch on a copy is an added value. Guess how she would deal with that though, with splitting profits out of those 50 copies and stuff.
This project is so messed up, I hope people start to realise she’s a total amateur at best at practically EVERYTHING
I think it's a cultural thing? like where i'm from, it is considered very rude, as well. most of the recent-ish (read less than 40 years old) graves are 'blocked off' by like ankle height iron railings, to prevent you from accidentally stepping onto them.
also i find it incredibly rude to be filming graves that are less than forty years old. there's a difference between documenting 'historic' sights, and being disrespectful to the deceased, and imo holly crossed it. then again, i'm from a country where just talking in not-hushed voices is considered disrespectful. cemeteries still in use are places of mourning to us, and seeing someone walk around vlogging would piss me off so much.
she addresses the tablet thing in this, and i am still 'confused' about it. the 'that came out of my paycheck' is just so ??? to me. it makes it sound like she had to pay for something, when in reality, it was a failed purchase from her and she had to refund the money. like it was an unexpected expense, when she sold it to make extra money and that failed.
(also inb4 holly tries to build a pool out of bamboo)
it's because she alteady spent the money she made selling it. as she always does as soon as she gets any cash at all. she literally has to spend it as soon as it hits her bank account for some fucking reason, even if it's for something completely pointless.
so she wound up losing money on the tablet because she had to dredge up funds to issue the refund.
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lol, rip to her 50 dollar wooden copic holders.
I'm pretty sure Holly needs help with her impulsive buying and hoarding..
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Not a bad set up , but man ….why did she even buy the 50$in the first place you can always find marker cases for when an art store goes out of business or wholesale type thing?
Because she needed
an excuse to buy more markers right. this is her excuse. "Muh marker case, it's too empty and I hab 'OCD' guyse, gim more moneys I'm broke."
she'll either fill that case, or leave it there to collect dust only to sell it later on.
sometimes I think also that she watches other art youtubers, sees what they have and goes "I wanna have/do that too!!" And she'll buy stuff without actually figuring out why she needs it. or she'll make up a bullshit excuse and bend over backwards to explain away why she needs it (And! your money), just so she can use it for a week before selling it/ it disappearing from her mind. right now she seems to really want a collection of Copics on her desk like baylee.
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This was under her copic display picture. I’m dying.
I kind of like Hershel actually. Or rather, what he could be. Holly completely wasted his potential. She says he’s this beefy tough dude with a heart of gold but you can’t see either of those things, she just says that shit and does nothing with her characters to show it.
The greasy emo dude is the most unappealing design I have ever seen. His acne makes me gag, his scars are so exaggerated you can’t even take his self harm seriously. And what makes him wanna hurt himself anyway? lolol you’ll never know but hey showing him raping a guy is much more important to his personality.
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Her character designs are very unappealing. The elf with the sunglasses expression reminds me of the fairy Christian Slater voiced in Fern Gully only its not cool.
>The one god forgot.
That goes for any of her OCs
What is she supposed to be saying there?>Characters most people except Patreons will see
I'm guessing she means to say the comic will be a Patreon exclusive, but the sentence ends up saying the opposite?? BRown plz
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The way she draws chairs omg
It's a globe
I think this is the ballroom dance scene from MCR I'm Not Okay MV
LMAO it looks like they're hanging on to those chairs for dear fuckin life, my god the perspective is awful. The back of the seat for the middle chair is like, non existent. It'd be reasonable if this was trying to be abstract/surreal but no, this is legit Holly playing it straight.
Also that marker case looks ridiculously bad with like 16 copic markers in it and the rest being empty.
Retail anon here, but depending on how they reset merchandise in certain departments, displays can be completely thrown away (or employees take them). This means Holly was either there at exactly the right time when they were resetting the space (doubtful) or she requested to take it when and if they were getting rid of it. Depends on the manager, some will just let people take shit and some charge money for old displays.
Judging from what she writes here >>649022
it may be they are downsizing the amount of markers they carry, hence why she mentions "one of their marker displays".
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does she proofread… at all…? just read the new purgatory update and…The dialogue in this book is so fkn strange.The amount of grammar, spelling, and like basic english errors leave it barely readable. There is kind-of-ok dialogue under all the shitty grammar too which makes it worse -_-
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u guiz are all just haters guy in middle is clearly just doing exercise for maximum chest gains
for real, if you're that bad at drawing circles then just trace at that point. she didn't even shade it to give the illusion. that it's a vaguely round 3d object.>>650486
this is so hysterically bad on all fronts, I legitimately cannot find a nice thing to say about this. not a single thing.
Holly surely gets critique on her school assignments right? does she just completely ignore it or refuse to apply it to personal projects as well?
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Holy shit it looks like the blond dude is fucking sliding off the face of the planet
seriously it's not difficult to see a flipped image of what you're working on with the existence of phones and even just fucking MIRRORS
What the fuck is this. the seats are fucking warped to shit and clearly aren't based on solid ground, the poses make no fucking sense, i have not a single clue what the point of this scene is and the """composition""" of this is fucking triggering
Is there a way for the school to withhold her degree bc nobody who draws like this should be within arms reach of an illustration degree.
Tbh I went to a shit art school and one of the teachers gave a student a barely passing grade just because they wanted them gone. The student was a horrendous artist with a shit personality so I kinda didn’t blame him because I wouldn’t want to spend another quarter with an obnoxious asshole student either.
I would wonder if the same were true for Holly but her classes are online.
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That seems excessive
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hands with a foot's heel are my favourite holly-horror.
So she's doing a layer of watercolor and then going over it in Copic? what for?? Like, her colors are going to end up muddy and ugly either way, watching her make art pisses me off lmaooo.
It's like what she ran out of space for what she wanted to draw and just crammed everyone in and warped the perspective to shit, instead of laying down the foundation. Good job, BRown.
It's such an insane waste of money. AND she's laying the copic down streaky because she won't be getting any coverage otherwise.>>650747
>casually mentions shadman in her video targeting mainly minors.
OK BRown. We know you look at his shit. You only mentioned his name to sound edgy yourself.
i thought i was the only one!!! >>650711
when will holly learn…. it seems every time she makes one step in not making the same mistake she makes over and over again, she devolves 20 steps back
Not to play devil’s advocate, but mixed media is a thing and copics over inks or watercolour is as common as pencils on copic. It’s not the best thing to do, but even some professionals do it. You’re just being silly here.
It wasn’t even watercolour paper, it was cardstock that SURPRISINGLY wasn’t suited for watercolour (yes she complained about the cardstock not acting like watercolour paper.) and more than the media, I think the supplies are wasted on non thought, anatomically monstrous, perspective nightmare-ish crappy pictures.
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Dude apparently has mermaid syndrome since his thighs are fused together, but split at the knee jesus fucking christ Holly.
The whole drawing needs to be thrown away but this is probably the worst executed character out of the three.
shit, before i saw the reference i actually thought that this was intentionally warped in perspective? sort of like some videos do this sort of lens distortion, where the middle gets closer as the sides move backwards. wow.>>650747
you know what's really cringy? a twenty-something asshole that thinks trying something once makes her an expert on it.
'it's not cool to hate things' yet here we are, with another ranting video about something you hate.
He’s also got a hunch, doesn’t have hips, has different hands (one is slimmer, the other is thicker) and has legs the same length as his arms, that are dislocated.
Good job, Holly.
But in the scene from the music video she's drawing >>650715
there's four members?
Did she talk about Amberlynn Reid for a moment there?
I wonder if she does it to feel less fat
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Mewtripled relased a new sketch book video , talking about how foundations are worth learing instead of just wanting to find a style.
Since holly likes her so much as seen in the comment below idk maybe she'll take it seriously but i highly doubt it .
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Yes, since Holly has a rape comic based around those two characters
I would't be surprised if this is what she gets off to while buying supplies to make high resolution armginas.
Seriously, most people don't even have scanners that large. You can make tiny photos into massive filesizes if you just alter the DPI
inb4 Holly decides to drop hundreds on a huge flatbed scanner for her autism
W-what do you mean anon he's black, he's just black
Tbh I don't think holly even realizes that he could be from any of those cultures and probs just default thinks black means African American
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Is she a fan of doodle date? the idea reminds me of their little series "doodles and tea" >I can be a dirty money grubby hoe
like she ain't already :V
That’s EXACTLY what I thought too.
It’s doodles and tea, plain and simple. She probably just saw one of these and thought “oh that’s easy, I can make videos like this BUT BETTER”
I've seen zines with literally 1/3rd of the pages sell for more than that. Holly for the love of god stop ripping those poor artists off, they've already been through enough pain having to deal with you.
REEEEEEEEEEE HOLY YOU FUCKING TWIT IT'S NOT EVEN CENTERED. I'M GOING TO LOSE MY MIND OVER ALL THE PEOPLE YOU FUCKED OVER.
I can't even wide for this zine to go over badly since tons of kids probably sent stuff in and I wouldn't want them to be apart of a disaster project but the least she could have done was to center the title page damn it
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we all know damn well holly's greedy ass is definitely deleting every email she gets regarding artist copies bc hurr hurr that's stuupid bro
poor guy :/ their probably better off without her copies knowing how shit and unprofessional they were designed.
(I wish the pdf was out so a good majority of the artists could make something better and more worth other people's time and money but who wants all that unnecessary work).
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Seriously it's not hard to say like "I'm so sorry - I never saw them!" or be like "I just checked and didn't receive them" or something instead of just being like "do it again i can't be arsed to email you even though i clearly have your email for you to have been invited to the zine"
I'm not saying you have to be sunshine and rainbows, but it's really not that hard to be at least a little personable.
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YOU decided on printing it yourself. It’d be much easier to just pay a professional printer and have the books shipped to you (or the other artists), and maybe charge a little more per copy.
It’s not group projects, it’s that you’re fucking stupid and you always need to feel like you’re better than others.
Yeah. And there's no way to tell who the artwork belongs to. >>653368
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I love kikis delivery service but this is awful. Also this is why she decoded to work on 18 by 24?? To paint it?
of all the things holly draws i hate her food most because it looks wonky and made of wood.
she likes huge resolutions because she thinks it's a sign of professionalism and makes up for the quality of her drawings.
I think it's for the sticker set she mentioned? I still hope she'll rearrange them. And who wants half a cat as a sticker?>>653417
She said it's so the resolution is high enough for prints.
haha I meant to put he's clearly not black
, it didn't make sense rip
I don't understand what this is supposed to be
Is the food on a table? Is it floating in the air? Is it both?
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Somebody save this cat, it’s having a stroke.
i feel like tictail's 5 day processing for payments actually buys her time to make the copies. and this is all stuff she brought on herself.
- she knew con season was coming up and she'd need merch
- school assigning work should be a regular thing to her
- there are 80 artists in the zine, she knew she'd have to make at least 80 copies, plus orders from people who weren't artists that want to buy it.
tbh, at this point, i am honestly starting to think she has some kind of mental issue that makes it difficult for her to realize the (extend of the) work involved in big projects
>'A lot of you bitches have no idea how youtube works'
pretty sure a lot of us just have a general idea of what to do to keep surfaces clean/would tidy up before filming a video
>'Christmas this year all I'm getting are markers'
as if she's gonna be able to restrain herself until then.
also, it seems like the saga of 'holly can't be arsed to fill up her fish's tank' continues…
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well cats don't have arms but yeah the cat should be smooth like this i dunno why she wouldn't do that. she has cats! and cartoon cats and real cats both famously merge their limbs into a solid outline (loaf etc) that's their essence
fucking seriously. She has no understanding of basic composition and clearly didnt even do thumbnails for that shitty piece. I'm all the way triggered
from all the tangents
The fact that this bitch has the audacity to complain about the workload she imposed on herself
from the fucking zine… I'm shooketh tbh I hope every artist who worked on her with his wakes up.
This is an anonymous imageboard, what did you expect? We don't actively seek to create drama, we just watch an artist do stupid shit all on their own.
If you had framed your questioning differently like, "Guys what do you think are the top videos I should show my artist friend who likes Holy, like what video shows her shitty behavior the most?" We probably would have helped you.
But no, you had to advertise yourself and your upcoming video breaking anonymity. Do your own research, read through the threads.
Honestly if you're that triggered
by a single comment, then you arent that different to Holy yourself.
Also, you forgot to sage.
I suppose that's true, though I'm mainly keeping my name and channel anonymous and my face isn't even shown on my channel besides my "brand".
If Cowtipping is a concern, and is a valid one, I full heartidly agree to deleting my post and presence to keep the project separate. I didn't mean to do that or call too much attention, I just wanted to know if it was accurate. Besides that one really good roast, of Holly, I haven't seen a good take on her. Most of them are just about how they hate her, or why they're not supporting her.
This video isn't a hateful ramble. It's meant to be an explanation of how she got popular, to why she's controversial, to where she is now and is meant to be a story of what not to do as an art tuber. And I disagree on the notion of ripping things from threads being drama. EZ PEZ ripped info off Mr.Enter off of Kiwi farms, and regardless of the quality, it is objectively the most research filled and easiest way to gain info on him without sitting through the crap pile. If the video is a bad idea (Which I think it could be which is why I held off on it for a month) I'll just quit altogether. Since I don't like documenting a person if it will bring unnecessary drama, and just Holly alone attacking me is enough of a reason why I'm reconsidering. I think the best decision for me personally is to make it private, then make it public once she's irrelevant or I gain a sizeable audience. That's just my two cents.
holy shit guy
this isn't 4 chan
literally type the word sage into the field that says email
remove what's in the name field
then stop typing paragraphs and talking about yourself so much. if you have as many capital I's in your post as lowercase ones, delete it.
First, I was not the anon that called you a parasite. But I can understand where they come from, we aren't here to help you make videos. It doesnt matter what type of video it is.
And by advertising, I mean advertising who you are you dag.
How about you read the rules and understand them. Jesus, fucking sage your posts you shit stirrer, all it took was an 'oops sorry' or deleting your post but you had to keep going on.
>>654360>"This is an anonymous image board" this type of thinking is why these threads have such bad reputations.
No you dumbfuck that's literally what this place is.
Literally no one here gives a single fuck if you're making a hilarious epic video about Holly, constructive or otherwise. We're here to talk about Holly and her bullshit, not help you with your creative projects.
Make sure not to selfpost your gr8 video when you do make it.
The problem was that you violated the rules straight up, it was obvious you were probably not a 'lurker' and just came here looking for receipts to use.
Go ahead and make your video, but take the time to research the threads yourself. The start of every thread tends to cover a bit of what she has done.
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most of the food (exl Cat and sign) is shown from a certain viewing angle and these two being standalone irks me.
The pringle thing that's next to the loaf looks off as well but I think its meant to be leaning on the loaf and Holly just struggled to make then interact organically
(aka its as wooden as Reese in a chair)
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it's supposed to be a sort of fish casserole/pie. this is how it looks in the movie.
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Not to mention that it looks nothing like Jiji to begin with.
Honestly I really like the way Holly draws food its so stylised and is rendered nicely. I prefer it to her comics and drawings of her characters which are flat and stiff.
Why does Jiji look so fat and have such a tiny head tho eugh
i agree it looks terrible. and this is the one thing it would actually make sense for her to trace lol. most of her audience wouldn't read japanese anyway so it doesn't matter but it just reflects her lazy attitude.
like she just straight up skipped the horizontal lines in ま lmao i'm nitpicking but this irritates me
she even fucking shaded that person in her vlog!!
like how she has so much to do and they tell her to reply to an email. like.. yes holly, surprise! artists want to buy those zines to sell them at cons wow
Watch Holly just send the zine to a shop to print in her next video (like she should have done in the beginning)
The only good thing to come out of this entire zine fiasco is that we don't have to worry about seeing another ugly zine from Holly anytime soon! >>654415
Also, any anons out there planning to see Holly during the upcoming con? I kinda want to see what see plans on selling all these wonky posters for!
honestly one of the most annoying things about this video is the comments. like its just full of "omggg ur not fat!! i wanna lick ur face holly kween!!" like ew. chill the fuck out
and also that talkign about the zine and how everyones 'sending her snarky emails' like bitch if you're not prepared for communicating with other people then dont make a group fucking zine!!
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In one of her vlogs she said her school said that she wasn't allowed to post anymore of Clever Kitchen because it's her final piece and she can't reveal too much.
Apologies for shit grammar
Why does she insist on throwing the ugliest shades of pink on as a backdrop for her spreads/illustrations??? It never works out. This just looks like puke, as usual.
The bread looks SO unappetizing, I don't know how people say she draws food the best/why she's so proud of it, it's just as wonky and gross looking as her characters.
Also Jiji being in the spread definitely doesn't fit. Why is he that brackish gray color? What is with that cat on the baguette? Is that supposed to be cute? jfc, she didn't even try.
Sorry for ot, but what how can you fail writing in Japanese that badly? I can't read it at all, the most I can decipher is よ？どけ？のいた？よ
Also there's something so off about this drawing, I can't put my finger on it
I don't know about you, anon, but I'm getting a "rushed" vibe from this and a lot of her other art, moreso than usual lately, probably because of the con. She's hopping thru fandoms hoping that something lands.
She can hype up her social media and her followers all she wants about the stuff she's making, but none of it will necessarily translate into sales when she tables.
I personally hope she tanks, she doesn't really put any effort into her work, she just makes a lot of it. Nothing is thought out, and there's always something disingenuous and ironic/sarcastic about the way she talks about and makes art. Like she doesn't do any of it because she likes it. She's constantly annoyed by it, and finds a lot of it to be a hindrance to getting her money.
She never seems particularly interested in working with others or getting involved in a community unless there's something in it for her, exclusively. The zine fiasco makes that very clear.
Sage for long post, but I hope it's not too armchair. Just observations.
Michie is annoying for her own reasons but she be better off not associating with Holly, I dont even know why anyone bothers with her save to try and siphon off some followers.
I dont think and i certainly hope that Holly will make not make profit. Perhaps some since she's splitting the table but not as much as she's riding on. Even if she does make a bit it'll only have paid for what she's already spent.
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Jesus God she did Kiki's sign dirty. I'm an anon who has mentioned liking Holly's food art a couple times across threads but the composition of these piece, the background colour and the hideous Jiji drawings (the small one interacting with bread in the corner looks fucking atrocious he's just floating as usual when it comes to any character/object interaction in BRown's work).
This is definitely a rush job for the con bcos Ghibli is popular. Unlike the magical girl thing Holly actually LIKES Ghibli but this piece is so fucking bad it's clearly a cheap attempt at making something she thinks con attendees will buy rather than something with thought.
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OR, you could just listen to music from your computer since that’s where you record your videos. Crazy, huh?
how much do y’all wanna bet she’ll give some bs reasons for “NEEDING” to buy the most recent ipod touch with the most memory (aka the most expensive one possible even though 64+gb for what’s basically a glorified music player is laughably ridiculous)?
also, couldn’t she have used that super expensive ipad pro she bought on a payment plan and then decided she didn’t want it anymore for this? i’m pretty sure she could have listened to music, drew, and recorded at the same time on that device if she wanted and the battery would have been fine. and again, why doesn’t she just listen to her music on her computer?? why does she buy all apple devices and then complain about things like file sharing between them (which should be easy), not being able to upgrade the parts? (i remember one time she stated in a vlog that she would probably have to replace her brand new hugely expensive imac in A YEAR bc she didn’t realize that she couldn’t upgrade the ram in her model herself. and on that note, i don’t see any reason why she would need more than 16gb ram for what she does on it anyways.)
sorry for the rant. i’ve been trying not to give up on the hope of her actions ever making any sense, but damn is she stupid.
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Another rush job
She is redrawing the picture she made for the collab with her friend? It wasn’t even good to begin with wtf. Use what you had instead of crappily remaking it, since you don’t have time!
Glad she’s filling that huge marker case with her other markers anyway, I thought she would only use it for “copics” since it was painfully empty up until her last vlog.
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Also I’d like to point out that tis kind of transparent fabrics tends to come out more clear in colour when it’s overlapped; she made it darker because she couldn’t be bothered to look for references or even carefully look at the cartoon itself.
I mean it’s just logic that overlapping two semi transparent bright pieces of tulle you get an even brighter area, you only go darkening with dark tones. It’s literally the same as using opacity in PS (and we all know how she likes to brag about how well she can do digital). Don’t know how it works? GOOGLE IT. And she has the nerve to call herself a pro…
to be fair, i bought an ipod touch late last year, specifically to have something to listen to music on and maybe the odd game.
but you have a point. it would be so much easier for her to listen to music on her phone while screenrecording or to listen with bluetooth headphones from her computer if she's using her phone to record painting.
She prolly gets a hit of dopamine every time she initiates a new project but when she has to actually sit down and do it, it wears off so she starts another one to get that next hit.
As soon as she starts working on anything she gets so annoyed and doesn't want to be bothered with it, instantly and then wonders why she keeps doing it to herself.
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from the zine video
i really wonder which comapany it was, but anyway, it really pisses me off, that when she talks, she sometimes burps but not the kind of full on burping she does on her vlogs, but the "swallow down kind of burp"
she could just cut it out completely but keeps it in because she doesnt fucking care i mean that says a lot about what her viewers mean to her
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idk why but i watched one of her highschool sketch book videos
and I was left wondering
what the actual fuck happened to her art ?
she had a good start ????????/
she probably thinks her art is better now ?
but she kept shitting on the stuff in her old sketchooks
and i'm sitting there like ???
has she seen her current sketch books ???
Yeah, in a lot of ways she's pretty steadily regressing. For every one step forward in any area, she takes 2 steps back everywhere else. Her old purgatory art wasn't good, for example, but it was somehow miles better and had a lot more direction than current purgatory.>>656219
Her reaction to all her old art is "lol cringe!! What was I doing!!" when when it's objectively better in every way than her current art. its like she thinks she's better by virtue of more time put in, rather than what it actually looks like.
at 1:47, she ACTUALLY DREW JIJI ACCURATELY, >>654875
so what the HELL is that monstrosity on her kiki-throw-up-bread spread?
Thank you. The professor in every class I took involving watercolors would always tell us mix our own colors and avoid white because white completely changed the quality of the watercolors and made the colors much more opaque.
I'm pretty sure the reason Holly has such muddy colors is because she isn't patient enough to actually let her colors dry before adding the next layer. Both watercolors and markers are not mediums for people who can't plan ahead.
Sweetie sage your posts please
type ' sage ' in the email field
and you can delete your posts if you make a mistake no need to double post
What are you talking about? White doesn’t make colours muddy, it just tones down the brightness. Mixing wrong shades of colours and using dirty water will get your piece muddy.
Also I agree that it’s better to use the white of the paper for white areas but you guys know that white paints that are actually artist grade exists and that Chinese white is way less opaque than titanium white, right? You can glaze white, and over all I don’t think manifacturers are stupid, using expensive pigments for colours that shouldn’t exist.
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Ew? Im confused.
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Did y'all see this?
maybe one of the sponsers she talked about?
I don't really understand her need to keep collecting and switching tablets tho. A Cintiq, a Huion, an iPad, now this thing? Why?
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Please anon sage your posts.>>657017
We've always given Holly constructive advice whether it be for her hair, makeup, diet choices, and art.
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Stop fucking putting down everybody who ever lived, Holly. There’s not one single thing in your “style” that I don’t find bothersome and I’m pretty sure I’m not the only one, but if somebody points out some flaws you are all ready to call it your style.
Other people aren’t allowed to have a style.
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I'll have whatever he's having
(from the zine video)
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to anons who were asking, she posting saying she finished it, and shipped about july 15th.
it was under a comment about the shitty cover>>656008
I honestly still barely makes sense though. Are they saying that Holly making the cover misaligned was an artistic choice? If so this guy is so far up Holly's ass he might as well be using her as a sock-puppet.
Speaking of sock-puppets, how much do you want to bet Holly uses sock-puppets to comment on her own videos?
it means that the cover being off center with the logo was intentional, because you WILL focuss on it and be interested…they say its a trick the ''artist'' used and not a fuck up
this kid must love those splattered paint blob canvases that are ''art'' (not saying mmodern or abstract art is stupid as a whole but…you know those stupid meaningless paintings)
Basically as a summary >I don't wanna join the industry because of Dan Schneider and Butch Hartman>I don't wanna live in Burbank because of forest fires>I don't wanna live in California because of poltical differences>I don't wanna get my masters because they protest at University>I don't wanna do anything outside my home because sometimes people do things I don't like
Fucking Christ Holly…
I'm an LA resident, and uh, most people don't really gives a shit about anything here.
"I don't know if I really want to deal with like, protesting nonsense, because I just really don't care about that shit. I really don't. Like, I just want to draw my gay shit."
This is why people call you a fujoshi, Holly, because you obsess over fictional gay sex but then dismiss any real-life movements e.g. gay rights
"There's literally like, homeless people everywhere [in San Fransisco], like… (laughs) Not that I, like, hate homeless people, but like, if I'm paying several thousand dollars to live somewhere, I better not have, like, homeless people asking me for change, sleeping on my doorstep, you know what I mean?"
Holly you put your foot in your mouth even when you're trying to filter yourself, why did you think a series where you just sit down and say the first thing you think would ever be a good idea.
Also kek at Holly calling herself a "controversial figure" and then later whining about how she doesn't want (read: can't get) an industry job because "the art community is so toxic"
boooy, i thought i was someone who avoided problems too much, but holly gives me a huge self esteem boost. i don’t know whether she really believes that she can find a place to live that’s both affordable for her and doesn’t have any issues whatsoever, or whether these are just her excuses for not putting forth the effort yet to finally move out on her own and become a real freelancer or get another job. Probably a combination of both.
I know it’s rough, Holly, but listen; you’re going to have to put up with shit everywhere. it’s a fact of life ffs. and i think if your worst struggle is that you run into an OH SO AWFUL homeless person or beggar every once in a while, then your life is pretty great all things considered, certainly better than those poor people’s are. Jesus, she truly has no grip on reality and expects everyone outside of the internet to give her the same constant ass pats that she gets from her fans.
Why does she have to shit on everybody and everything, jee.
So basically Holly is saying that she only wants to draw what she wants to draw when she feels like it. Really mature. I’m pretty sure that’s some sort of innovative thought. Nobody else ever wants to do their shit for a living.
She’s so spoiled I stg
good luck getting an industry job if that's how she feels.
hell, even if, by some fucking miracle, she got a job animating her own stories, she would just get bored of it and want to start new projects every few weeks. she just doesn't have the discipline to be a professional.
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I think I remember she briefly tried. Remember that online course she was "teaching" about comics? She did a bunch of sprites for it and used it once for her channel.
Her sprites we're very stiff and girl didn't know how to switch emotions for shit…
I wish she'd at least mention Doodle Date after basically re-doing their Doodles and Tea series.
I'm also like…seriously confused by her thinking that she can't live or work in California because of her political views? I don't really agree with most of the shit she expresses but none of it is out there enough to prevent her from making friends or working. Just say you're scared about moving to Cali and don't want to work for someone else, it's ok Holly. No need to drag the entire animation industry lmao
god holly is such a fucking texan, i live in tx and she's the epitome of everything shitty in the south. she shits on everywhere that's not tx yet she's never traveled a day in her life from what we know. her perception of SF is so ignorant. oh boo hoo! homeless people oh no!! she just comes off as a person who who wouldn't last a day anywhere outside of her texas bubble, it's honestly really sad.
also she draws gay characters yet she doesn't give a fuck about gay rights/movements? she literally just admitted she only cares about getting off to them. ffs she's so disgusting. actual human garbage.
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BRown just do yourself a favor and shut the fuck up
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>>657612>"I like to work on my own projects"
so does literally everybody. very few people get to do what they love for a living, but that's life.>"especially on college campuses, i don't really wanna deal with protesting nonsense"
as a person who attended college in CA recently, you can just walk past them if you really didn't care so much, holly.
then why would you say "i just wanna draw my gay shit" right after "i don't wanna deal with protesting nonsense"
holly literally could have left out the "gay" part and nobody would be giving her so much shit
Right? If you don't care why comment on it or be worried? Why are you so triggered
by 'straw' protests? She's so full of shit
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kek couldn't take the heat
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>>658198>doing something to get your rocks off
that's literally the definition of a fetish you dumb potato.
"Protest where it matters like Iran"
what the actual fuck do you mean by this? you just… want people to load up in a plane and organize a protest in a foreign country because…? i hate logic like this wtf is wrong with you? god forbid people are passionate about things and want to help enact change or at least start a conversation about things
also stop pulling your fake bi card holly. it's amazing how all of your same sex ships are men if you're really attracted to ladies in any way shape or form
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this person isn't backing down and it's fun to see holly keep digging that hole
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Jesus Christ Holly, practice some goddamn self restraint.
Honestly I just feel bad sometimes because I genuinely wonder if she knows how to socialize at all.
Why did natgasm private her twitter account just now …? Maybe she was getting attacked by Holly's fans?
This is just another instance where Holly thinks she's all high and mighty and that she's right and everyone else is wrong. She has to shit on EVERYTHING.
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did she spell "tough" as "tuff"?
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I'd be fucking annoyed if I bought a comic that wasn't even proof-read. Shows how much she really cares about her work and her fans.
Also I still find it hilarious that there are more pages of the porn comic than the actual fucking comic.
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how is she so stubborn? if multiple people are calling her out and explaining the error in her ways she should realize it's not just ~sjws getting offended~ it's something should own up to and apologize for. it's not that difficult, jesus christ.
the world isn't against you holly, you're just a shitty person. not everyone is here to blow smoke up your ass like your audience.
Holly if you want to draw fetish porn, it's whatever. What you draw is not exactly the most raunchy or riveting stuff out there.
But for the love of god stop saying shit like a comic that you drew specfically to see two dudes fuck ISN'T meant to be seen as nothing but porn.
IT'S PORN HOLLY.
Is fucking fetishy porn.
This is the panel she is using to prove that being kidnapped and fucked was consensual. That hershel is a strong guy who could avoid getting raped if he really wanted to.
Holly this is trash.
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> I don't fetishize the gays!! Here is my example of that!!
> "I could have stopped you from raping me if I wanted to :)"
holly brown is garbage lul
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This face makes me violently ill.
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God knows she's not actually gonna learn from this. Something new will come up and she'll forget to keep her mouth shut>>658304
This is fucking terrifying
Excuses, excuses, excuses…
Why can’t she be honest and admit that she’s lazy af and doesn’t want to work hard like real animators do?
still shitty af
go to /ot for redraws, people wont give you asspats here
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out of all the nice types of suits to draw, why does she have to go for the uggo late 80s/early 90s over-sized style??
I can't say I'm surprised. Holly is so scared of the world beyond her subpar bubble that she has to drag it down to be less appealing to her.
Also, are there no homeless people in Texas? Somehow I really doubt that.
I love how she picked that classic yaoi scenario of "Yeah you kinda forced yourself on me but I let it happen dude, we're cool!"
It's fucking wild how she's so blissfully unaware that writing a non-canon gay sex scene because "it's cute" is fetishy. All of her BL stuff just reads like the average subpar shit written by straight Japanese women who have never spoken to a gay person before, like how does that happen? Is it on purpose or does she not know?
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Shouldn't you idk…. Know this by now??????
I feel like she should have researched this before hand?
Honestly I don't really think anyone should make a video on Holly right now.
She's absolutely annoying, unprofessional, and awkward but she's also not the most interesting case out on YouTube.
She's more then likely gonna burn herself out before anything else.
i actually think this is what she's complaining about. from what i have seen, twitter (or at least the ppl i follow) have been very vocal about how much of a shitshow the strawban is. i was guessing that dear holly was angry bc those SNOWFLAKES have to complain about EVERYTHING MY GOD IT'S A STRAW DUDE CHILL IF YOU NEED ONE BRING ONE!!!!11!
[sorry, i can already hear her ranting about this]
her absolute idiocy just pisses me off so much. i am wondering if she's trolling, like, no one can be that stupid, right? please dear g.d let her be trolling.>>658827
ooooh, nice catch!! this seems more plausible than my idea that she was annoyed by the people advocating against the strawban. yeah, she keeps pinging on my 'right-wing leanings' radar.
I did not see the other threads, my bad jesus christ.
Not defending or anything but that is dumbass logic.
If you think skill has effect on information, you are guaranteed a dumbass yourself.
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>>659103>all that shit every week
Yeah, we all know that's not gonna happen lol
Why is she re-doing those Paranormal Plague pages again? Just leave the first few in color and switch to black and white afterwards jfc, I don't get why she keeps creating more unnecessary extra work for herself
holly “i need lots of breaks (procrastination) from this group zine bc it’s a lot of work all at once don’t you guys understand” BRown
also holly “known for overworking herself for a short period of time and then quickly losing steam, only to go back and refine pieces for no discernible reason” BRown
it’s weird, because she obviously values quantity over quality whether she admits it or not, and yet after she burns herself out on something, it’s like she realizes she wants something better and wants to fix it. the issue, however, is that any fixing she does has little to no effect anyways due to her lack of skills/improvement. I think she’s at least slightly self-aware, but maybe she just has a hard time looking at her actions logically? Idek.
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in case no one saw this one that was with it
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are this the fucking beatles?
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Looks like she is basing them off The Beatles cartoon, so it’s not TOO terribly far off, or at least not as bad.
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I honestly don’t see what’s so “weird” about the fork? Like forks are subjected to design choices AND it’s not like there’s only one kind of fork to begin with…
Different shaped forks have different purposes and if you go eat out, or on fancy dinners, you can see different kinds of forks or spoons and/or knives depending on what you’re going to eat.
Also wow Holly discovered that sugar makes you fat! Woo! That kind of dinner is a pretty basic dinner and everybody can cook it at home, Holly. Where I live it’s easier to find genuine foods on the table and use what you feed on daily as a treat once in a while.
It’s not the time that have changed, it’s you making the wrong decisions. Try fucking learn to eat veggies and legumes without saying they’re gross if they are not drenched in seasoning for a start.
She mentioned re-doing all the pages a while ago to make them black and white
Now she's saying she's done a big fat re-write and removed Ash (see >>658207
) which justifies a whole do over but does this mean Reese will be the main sidekick now so she call herself an epic cute gay love story
No Ash is still in there, even though shes mentioned she based ash a bit of herself. The self insert character she mentioned was a pudgier girl w short blue/green "miku hatsune hair" she was going to call mint.
She said she'd be a love interest of hershel, and it'd be cute cause both their names are food related
But ash is definitely her actual self insert even if she denies it, you can tell by the smugness
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Is this a nod to the infamous “how to draw manga”??
I'm pretty sure she meant "Mint"
The only time I've ever seen that character was in her vlog that I'm pretty sure she deleted after her meltdown.
I just remember couple of things about her that Holly acknowledged>She looked like Holly>She was everything Holly wanted to be>She was dating Hershel>"but no my dudes this isn't a self insert"
I guess she removed her because she finally realized that she WAS.
So Holly is planning to possibly sell a book of her sketches in the convention since she has so many sketches…
Who the fuck is going to buy a book full of her random messy doodles at a convention of all places?
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This is her 'Mint' oc
Pretty sure she was suppose to be a weeb too.
So Holly's perfect version of herself is to be a weeb who's more positive and also dating a "hot" dude?
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Has Holly ever seen a cock before????
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That is definitely how a male chest works.
IM SCREAMING THIS IS SO BAD
You took OF
NUDGE NUDGE?? Someone fingering themselves and the sound effect is NUDGE NUDGE? Also lmao wtf is with her dicks? What references is she using for these shriveled bean sprout dicks?
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This dick looks so weird, holy shit.
It's fine if Holly doesn't know how dicks look like but at least look up a reference if you're going to draw porn, it's not that fucking hard
Christ, this anatomy is just sad.
Holly does everything she can to not look at real male anatomy and it shows in her "art".
That fucking hand in the 4th panel. Reese’s flat wooden ass. All those stiff poses.
This comic is a goldmine I wanna see all of it.
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Holly, you still need to draw a cranium even if you draw the characters from behind, you can’t just draw hair and give it a go. And the movements are so stiff and horrible, I can’t see anybody ever being turned on by this shit. Also is Reese… like… fingering himself…? Holly the anus doesn’t get wet and I’m pretty sure all that foreplay was mode than enough for the rapist to be relaxed.
Also they apparently have the same dick size and shape, making Herschel a small fish. And this is not how penises work anyway. That said anon please share more if you can! >>659558
I find it really amazing that she couldn’t be bothered to draw the a*hole. It’s a porn comic with a suggestive pose and everything she can draw is a poorly placed dong? >>659623
She didn’t want to mention the company that ditched her on her main channel, but she did it on her personal one. I would have just alluded to it or used another name, it’s your vlog channel but people check on you Holly. They check everything. And you just don’t shit on company you maybe would want to work with again in the future.
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Honestly I'm genuinely interested in Holly's NSFW art journey so she can have my $5 but I really couldn't help running here to show those tidbits because they just look so rushed….. and so bad….
Her room is 'so close to clean' but it looks just as dirty as it was befire she 'cleaned' it>>659545
How can she look at this and think anyone would find it sexy?
Does she think porn will sell just cuz its porn??
Jesus christ, these porn pages are so good (bad)! Holly really outdone herself!! >>659649
Holly is being retarded as always, why cant does she have to shit on EVERYTHING!?? People cant seem to enjoy anything without her bitching about it.
Also Holly is the last person to be giving advice on blending when all her artwork looks like its been distorted in one of those mirrors at the circus.
It's just as bad as we thought. The dicks are shriveled up, which is funny because this is enough for anyone's dick to shrivel up.
Reese has like no ass and is going in dry,
points for unprepared ass chafing and unsafe sex.
also bottom left panel
> NVOGE DRVDGE
laughing at how small herschel's dick is
Holly, why didn't you watch some actual gay porn that you could have referenced?
>>659545barely nudges the tip of his finger in there
well it could be worse, at least hershel has a comically small shriveled dick and not a normal looking average sized one that would rip that other guy’s anus.
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someone mentioned lube or something so im here to enlighten
Not that anon but a lot of fujos dislike gays from what I've seen around twitter. Also fujos tend to fetishize BL ships a lot.>>659730>>659545
I don't think sketching a lot is helping her improve her anatomy, and it shows here.
>let's pull 'u' down for a while
FROM WHERE? PULL HIM DOWN FROM WHERE HOLLS??
lmao reese is rolling herschel around all over the place, it looks like he's moving a ragdoll around like, he doesn't know wtf he's doing.>>659743
He just lubed Hersch's inner knee, lol time for one of those classic leg fucks.
how the fuck is she getting a degree in illustration and still dont know what a contact shadow is
holly this is why everything you draw looks like its floating
good lord what is happening in here
>pull u down> u
Just like to point out in the new vlog real quick that much like Holly's projects, Holly dosen't like to take on diets unless the results are immediate.
On the real tho, a girl with a history of self harm, severe depression, and just general social isolation I can see developing some sort of eating disorder. Seriously who knows with this girl…
tbh, that's been on my mind, too, since she showed a full body shot in the vlog before this one (i think?). from the way she talked, i figured she'd be heavily overweight, but it looks like she's around the same size as me, and i have a bmi slightly over 'normal weight'. this 'five bites' diet sounds like it is made to turn into an ed fast, at least from the way she describes it. (in an effort to not trigger
a cycle of disordered eating for me, i'm not looking it up further)
and to hear her wave away concerns bc 'i had friends with anorexia i'm not obsessed like that!!' is a tad worrying, imo. but honestly, it's holly. she thinks she knows best in everything, she's not gonna listen to any concerns
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Yeah, the whole 10 bites a day thing seems really destructive or counteractive depending on how long she sticks with it.
Idk much but this guy's advice makes sense to me. Holly's thing about it being "modified intermittent fasting" I know nothing about, in the end, she's still not eating for half the day then eating 5 bites and waiting another half the day… which doesn't seem good.
i think it's a case of 'holly's bad anatomy strikes again', i saw it as him taking the lube with his right hand and using his left to move hershel's leg.
then again, there really is no way to tell, because EVEN THE DAMN BANDAGES ARE NOT CONSISTENT SO YOU CAN'T EVEN GO BY THOSE
in all seriousness though, i knew she wanted this to be a way to make a few quick bucks, but i'd be ashamed to put something with such low quality out there for money. then again, it shouldn't surprise me, given her general attitude and how her target audience seems to be 'desperate girls wanting to get off to two guys fucking' smh
Holly can’t leave TX bc there are scary liberals out there, anon!
Aside from that, I don’t see an issue in online college, but maybe that’s because I did it, lol. (well half online and half on campus) It works for people who have jobs and don’t have time to go to/don’t live near campus. Maybe if Holly got a part time job, she would prioritize her art time more, but who knows. I think she’s really determined to do the whole Youtuber/“freelancer” (except not really) thing bc it involves less effort (in her mind) to stay at home and make vids than it does to have another kind of entry level job. It has to be a psychological thing, because she used to always complain about how “she was making less than minimum wage” on YouTube (not including her shop, patreon, whatever else) yet she didn’t just go out and get a job. Or it could be the fact that she doesn’t have a car, which is valid, but…she’s spent so much money on other shit I just can’t. As someone who has to carpool to go to work and can barely save money for a future car, it just pisses me off personally.
holly… try sticking a finger in your ass with no lube (and no, spit isnt good enough for a long dicking…o short dicking)
like… has she even masturbated or watched non anime porn?
that's a pretty extreme nitpick, anon. gay/straight/les (drawn) porn are all guilty of not drawing realistic details that would be considered unsanitary/unslightly (unless, like in your example, that specific thing is a sought-after fetish). esp ass hair could too easily be mistaken for dirtiness or look weird when drawn in a lot of less realistic styles. within the niche of yaoi, you'll never see ass hair unless again it's a specifically fetish-oriented work.
there's literally so many things actually existing wrong with this. the melted popsicle dicks, magic disappearing assholes, that they both look like they're carved out of wood planks, etc. from concept to execution, this thing is inherently flawed and unappealing. no need to nitpick.
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don't you just hate it when your lovable, spontaneous goofball friend fucking drugs you, shoves you into the trunk of his car, ties you up at his house, and fucking rapes you?
those gays and their hilarious hijinks.
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this page……. isn't he already "getting head"?
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I HAVE NEVER IN MY YEARS! SEEN SOMEONE DEPICT ANYBODY HOLDING SOMEONES GENTIALS WITH THEIR PINKY RAISED
the absolute plot hole that is 'not head yet' right after sucking him off is its own conundrum, but man oh man Holly.
Is he sucking dick or drinking tea i am so very distraught over this whole comic like this really ain't it.
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That was probably the least elegant way to indicate that he put on the cock ring wtf
and there's literally no sexual tension ANYWHERE
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that second panel
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The End. Oh god I really hope it doesn't look THIS sloppy in print and I hope she at least got rid of some of the scanning shadows. Also all of these typos… you really sold this to people huh… It's kind of frustrating looking at how low effort so many of these panels are, like she really could have spent just a LITTLE more time on it.
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you're welcome anonchans
This has to be one of the un-sexiest "porn" comics I've ever seen, it feels like she just slapped a bunch of yaoi clichés together without any effort to put some chemistry into it.
Also those typos, holy shit. >>660131>Oh OMG god
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I'M LOSING IT… THIS IS WORSE THAN ANY OF US COULD HAVE IMAGINED. thank you, anonchan, holy shit
people should start flooding her youtube comments with 'trust' i swear to fuckin god.
Also, after boasting about consent, and how this isn't rape, at no point did Reese ever ask consent, after Herschel expressed being uncomfortable several times. So. On top of drugging him, this is rape and unsafe sex.
People Paid For This.
People Paid for This in print
I know there's no accounting for taste, but the standards are ridiculously low for this one.
But since she made money how much you wanna bet she's going to drop her other 2 comics and focus more on the 'wacky bullshit'
“None of this is fetishized! I’m shipping two characters I’ve created and haven’t interacted in the canon story yet!”
“I don’t make a stereotypical guy/girl looking gay ship. Plus all the yaoi I’ve read has rape in it and rape is bad and unsettling guys!”
Please tell me she is not this delusional oh my god, the whiplash from reading and hearing her say all this shit and then reading the comic… jc
Or… anything good for that matter.
does Holly know how cock rings even work? they don't prevent someone from cumming they just keep them hard. holy fuck.
people who have never had sex should not write or draw porn. i swear she's never even watched gay porn, just looked at shitty yaoi. it's too fucking obvious that you're a virginal fujoshit, Holly.
He's taking a ghost's pants off on the top right>>660110
It took me a good 5-10 seconds to figure out what the fuck was going on in that second panel.>>660135
Is it just me or is this page really confusing to read? Like, the panel placement is just weird
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I see Holly started using references for the hands
>>660110>that action panel>you can't cum unless I want you too>no connection of speech bubble to Reece's face>>660112
Is he fucking spinning that dildo what the fuck are those action lines>>660116
what is this sequence of events compared to the last page Holly are you even reading this??
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The video on the right is perfect for her
I'm not gonna lie, Reese kind of has a cute face, but he has the sex appeal of a giant fucking mosquito.
I've been lurking for a while and those threads are fucking great. Oh boy I have so much to say about this.
I don't get why anyone would find this appealing whether they're a virgin or not. I got secondhand embarrassment while looking at this mostly because it looks like she didn't even fucking TRY with it and people just threw their money at it because it's "soopur ghey".
The spelling errors, lack of reference usage to make things at least a bit more raunchy and appealing, burnt sausage dicks, inconsistency, disorganization with the panels, poor use of onomatopeia,awkward dialogue in general and piss poor attempt at making it a "romance" thing without much effort and hardly any chemistry between the two…fuck, man. Either put the romance there or don't. Everyone's main problems were the excuses and hypocrisy,not the fact that these two characters are male and were "in love"or not. No one gives a shit, it's PORN. Just admit you're a perv and move on, don't try to justify it. No ones gonna give you shit for it, you're a grown ass woman, do what you want with it. Just age restrict your shit and don't get mad when people get upset when you start throwing shade.
it's like there wasn't even so much as a double check to see if everything was good to go. If I would've payed for something like this with the amount that was charged, I'd feel kinda ripped.
I'm all for easy money and drawing lewds to get that cash, and I know that comics are generally a bit difficult to kinda keep up with, but it feels like she pretty much just went along with whatever on each page without a script planned at the very least. Theres nothing wrong with asking someone to check your script for you if there even was one written.
Porn can be something extremely embarrassing to write out if you don't know how to write it properly or at the very least know how to make things look hot. I know she was kinda trying to incorporate that into her own style, but when people do that they at least exaggerate things a bit more to make certain parts look hot or even alter their style a bit.
It's a small comic she's actually profiting off of and it's only a few pages long. It's easy to tell that she wasn't as into it as she claims to be, considering she actually has an idea on how comics work to begin with.
I feel bad that her comic was posted on the thread, but a part of me feels like it's kinda saving people from actually spending money on something that, in my opinion compared to her previous works, looks even more heavily rushed and uncared for.
I know Holly feels like shit most of the time and can be pretty reckless with what she says whether its intentional or not, but like pretty much what the other anons said here:
She lacks self awareness and doesn't bother looking shit up. She over works herself and as a result, things look rushed and uncared for.
She tries to make things simple and just ends up falling harder because she doesn't do full on research or just goes by with "well it didn't work for me so it sucks even though I didn't even fucking do it properly and everyone's different" and spreads false information.
Anyway, hopefully this is saged since it's just an essay of a rant. I put it in the email, but this is my first time posting anything ever on these threads.
>>659848>bariatic patients have essentially the same diet
Yeah, those are crash diets meant to make you lose a lot of weight very quickly, they're not healthy? How does she think she'll maintain the weight?
I was also confused when she showed her body, she talks like she's obese. I think she already has a distorted image of her body and poor knowledge of nutrition, not a good way to go.
I like how she tried to throw some consent in there after he's already drugged, kidnapped and tied Hershel up in some basement room, yet he doesn't even wait for him to say yes. >>660147>"Did you paint my nails while I was knocked out?"
Asking the real questions
>T R U S T
Honestly this shit is hilarious, I'm both horrified and delighted. Like >>660375
said, I feel a bit bad looking at paid content from an indie artist for free, but I also feel like it's such a shoddy rush job, writing compelling erotica is not that easy, especially if you don't give a shit as long a dude gets it in the ass.
She’s referring to the fact that due to the reduction, they can only eat small portions. First week is usually just liquid/creamy foods, and some feel nauseated just by drinking water.
Still it’s not the same, since that’s an extreme procedure, and they are FORCED to eat less. Also they are gradually eating more and more. You can’t compare the two things.
Also you cannot control EDs, it’s something that plays with your head and you will always see yourself as “too fat” even if you’re all bones. And counting bites/pieces is one of the most common things to do with an ED. Count the bites, count how many times you chew, feel grossed out because it’s too much until you diminish the bites next time you have to eat.
Your audiebce consists of mainly kids, Holly. Ffs don’t suggest this kind of sick diets to kids. They look up to you.
She forgot he’s not wearing makeup yet? Nobody switches from eyeshadow to putting deodorant with the cap on to eyeliner while wearing glasses.
Also how cute of him to bring his makeup pouch! He knew he was going to shower and get ready after the rape! Awww
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why does the dildo look like a meat thermometer
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b-but what if he's wearing pic related >>660184
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They still are Holly
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sorry if this has been posted but i'm really curious about this…. does anyone know anymore about this?
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Also came across this and it gave me a good laugh, especially after looking through "Seize" which was drawn hardly a month ago.
she didn't say it, but her words in the vlog were exactly>"i don't know if i really wanna deal with protesting nonsense, 'cause I really don't care about that shit. I just wanna draw my gay shit?"
so it's not hard for people to connect the topic and think she's referring to the LGBT protests. It might have just been Holly's lack of eloquence, but it's not surprising that some people took it that way
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Oh look plans for another zine. Tbh the anatomy doesn't look awful here. Maybe because it isn't one of her ocs or because she used a reference
Didn’t she like JUST SAY that she wasn’t gonna do another group project/zine, what the fuck? She’s probs just talking out of her ass, I’m sure we all say shit that we want to do but never act on all the time. inb4 she actually pulls this shit but I don’t think we have to worry bout this one.
Dunno why the idea of another zine would even cross her mind though, maybe she imagines it to be a zine of just her own art? Good luck selling that lol
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….. Yeah cuz it's so much better to draw rape comics instead …
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Cognitive dissonance is one hell of a drug>>661023> Struggling to get the group zine done> Struggling to get her con stuff in line> Struggling to update her comics> guys, I want to make another zine :)
Stop. Starting. New. Projects.
Holly shut the fuck up, you litterally went out your way to buy them. Her complaining is so irrelevant.
Anyway, idk if Holly is /really/ gonna do another zine/Doujin/art book or whatever but I really hope she does! If she is gonna do it off "Aziwawa" then its gonna really gonna piss fans off and produce some good milk. Kek.
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She's got some nerve talking about another BNHA themed zine, after absolutely stepping in it with the last one. Even if it is
a zine filled with her shitty art. She's just following the popularity of the buzzword 'zine.
It's a legit complaint. They Dumbledore'd Shiro. The only place it's explicitly said they were engaged is at a convention panel. His ex-fiance showed up for maybe a minute of screentime and then they killed him, and Shiro never even shed a tear or talked about his relationship with him.
That said…pot, meet kettle? Exploiting gays in zines and shit without attempting to understand actual gay relationships is pretty reprehensible. I would argue it's even worse than the teasing crap the Voltron folks are doing.
i'll give credit where credit is due, holly seems to talk more at length at the other problems of the season, not just the gay shit.
but like, still, holly does not have room to talk about how voltron represents gay people when she wrote a story about how saying no multiple times just magically turns into yes. and the ending doesn't even cut it because it shows that yes, she knows hershal was drugged and yet that still counts as consent?
a bit ot, but maybe if voltron wasnt so popular, shit like this wouldnt happen
oh, no, i understand completely. i would also argue that holly's comis has less influence on the public than a show readly available to anyone with 14 bucks ready for streaming, but that's neither here nor there. Holly's critism - gay rep or otherwise - still holds up, and it's still refreshing to see someone talk about what else is wrong about this season of voltron (ie her spiel about lotor)
saging for kinda ot i guess.
Well therapy does help in combination with medication. It just helps for when you get off of them. And if I'm correct holly isn't using something recommended by a health professional its more of a vitamin thing that's she's taking
And if she would save her money and slip it up shs could find a good therapist
And this is coming from someone who used to hate going to therapy until I took the time to find someone I like
And its changed a lot for the good rather than the worse.
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Ffs stop saying you draw "anime as fuck", Holly.
I don't know how I'd call her stuff, but it definitely isn't anime. Stop.
saged for autism
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Poor kid, I know in the video she doesn't elaborate on really anything, but if she wants to vent about it and she feels better about posting it, more power to her.
Knowing Holly, she's gonna be nasty and all "I'M NOT HERE FOR THE CHILDREN"
Hope no one on there gets nasty and spiteful towards an actual child who used to look up to Holly.
Actually I stumbled upon this video
She didn't post it.
Maybe I should have thought it through
But it shows how young some of hollys fanbase is.
Sorry about that I'll think before just posting the link
Also please do not send hate to this girl or nitpick.
The staff hyped everyone up with the reveal that Shiro is gay, and then ended up making the big anticipated gay scene just a short vague interaction in a flashback with his assumed boyfriend who died offscreen. It was a bitch move by the staff and Holly isn't by a long shot the only one complaining about it at the moment. >>661700
This. It's as far removed from anime as it can be, I have no goddamn idea how she can call it that and keep a straight face. She's trying so badly to cater to weebs because she thinks they're a profitable, easy audience but can't draw an attractive anime character to save her life. Everything she draws is so goddamn ugly and repulsive-looking I'm just assuming she has no sense of aesthetics. >>661733>I-I wasn't the one who posted this!!>also pls don't hate or nitpick this person uwu
This is why you need to be over 18 to post here.
Even if she does get it, I think it would have zero effect on her
She would just constantly argue with her therapist, read one article online and decide she’s more knowledgeable than a specialist
She’ll quit it within a week and then bitch on Twitter
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Depends on where you go,mine started out every other week.
And still is every other week, just gotta do research and find someone to match your schedule and be honest about it.
I think it's wise for her not to she has a habit of running her mouth when she doesn't have a script/topic to stick to
At least with vlogs you can cut out shit that sounds retarded upon a second glance but you can't erase anything you say in a live stream.
The amount of milk and shit storms that arise from edited planned videos is enough to have filled 9 threads already can you imagine if you she let herself loose on a daily basis. She must know she has a problem with putting her foot in her mouth when she's allowed to just talk freely.
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This is so much worse than I had ever imagined, and we all knew it was going to be bad but this went so far beyond my expectations. The most stiff, mechanical body language, absolute lack of passion, zero chemistry between the characters, every new element being brought in just making the situation more clinical, and then tacking on the 'I could have overpowered you at any time silly bean' ending.
Yaoi does nothing for me but I doubt even the most thirsty fujoshit could get off to this. This was as sexy as watching Hershel get his prostate checked, it was that clinical and awkward.
And did anyone else think it was going to turn out to be Resse's sex dream? I can't beleieve she went for the 'it was consensual all along' ending. His wet dream lusting after a straight guy would make way more sense to me.
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the first three panels are actually kind of okay, compared to her usual comics… the style is a lot easier on the eyes and you can actually tell that it's a sequence of events
i always wonder if she'd improve like tenfold if she got out more/saw more, being cooped up is a perfect recipe for art regression
Yes it's incredibly creepy to stalk so done just because they look like your gay cartoon husbando.>>663185
Everyone has hair flaps in FujoVision™
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…h-hey, holly, what about sending out zine orders and saving up to move out and that ipad pro never used that was on a payment plan and
oh fuck it. this dumb bitch is determined to stay in her nasty room drawing shitty fujo comics forever, even though she vehemently says she wants to leave. Here’s how a goal works, BRown: make a plan to reach the goal, stick to it and take it one step at a time, then do it. Not throw yourself into something without committing to it and then moving on to the next shiny project, rinse and repeat.
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That's not her OC, it's Gundam Tanaka from Danganronpa 2. The resemblance to Eridan has been noted but he's not a ripoff.
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This was her response on tumblr
I kinda sympathize, but it's not surprising that people who donated her their time and skills would be a bit demanding to know what the hell is happening. Based on their comments she wasn't replying to emails etc.
And as >>663427
said, SHE started the project. This is why you start small and then expand, not the other way around.
"We have sold 120 books, its not much per artist, which makes me feel kinda bad :/"
In Vlog a few days ago -
11:29- "Which by the way, despite how much that sounds like laughs
… um… a hundred orders divided amongst all the artist is still not that much money laughs
. Like people are still only gonna get like… less than 20 bucks so far."
At 12:15- "Um.. but like laughs
it's kind of funny cause it's like some people think they're gonna make like insane profit and I'm like… nawwww, you're nawwwt. That's not how royalty works boo-boo."
Yeah Holly, this sounds like someone who feels really sad about that. I'm including the video at the second start time, because text does not do it justice.https://youtu.be/SRnfV9gBWsY?t=12m11s
I hate the way she's treating and talking about people who participated in her zine.
She's just so god damn abrasive, basically everything she says sounds like she's trying to start a fight.
How many artists were there, did she say the concrete number? I wonder how much profit she's making.
Anon did you download this? Someone please do before she ends up deleting it before someone can use it as evidence against her.
Anytime someone posts a video here from her she ends up deleting it so she won’t deal with the backlash.
>>663621>Idk if there are any "drama" type channels for the art community
A bunch, although I feel like most of them are run by 15-17-year-olds, and seem to focus on dA/tumblr shit rather than the YT community.
That said, I don't know if that's even necessary at this point. Her reputation will be tarnished even more than it is and I doubt many of the people will collab with her again.
I'm just curious to see if she's really going to send out the artist copies after San Japan and what quality the print will be.
This, unless the “real adults” in review/commentary decide to do a review or overlook of her work/behaviour I don’t really think anyone should touch it. Pkrssul or Daftpina would be nice since she did try her hand in animation and they give hard critic you can learn from if your not enraged by them criticizing you but she needs to hear some hard mean shit and actually listen too it before she can make a real hange for herself
But I get the feeling Holly would loose her shit and try to make it out that she’s being bullied for “different opinions and SJWs” or something stupid *edited for word salad
5 hours a day for comic pages is doable but it is something that will definitely burn you out pretty quickly.
Also, in Holly's case, she has other obligations such as her animation for school or even the Zine which means her 8pgs a week goal was super unrealistic to begin with.
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So let me get this straight, she decided to round up as many artists as possible to make a MHA zine to sell and make profit off of on her site and at the con, with the excuse of making it herself to maximize on it,
But when it comes to making a zine with her own art, she wants to do it through a printer so that her own
work is done professionally?
That is so skeevy. You did those artists absolutely dirty, BRown.
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Holly bleached her hair after dying it pink with overtone. Funny thing is she could have kept it the fuschia/magenta color it turned out and see it wash out into a lighter pink (probably not the lightness she wanted but a peachy tone) but patience is not a virtue Holly possesses
NTA but requested them to do something =! got a sworn promise from them to do something>>664638
DAE wonder if her art is ugly because she's ugly? she obviously references herself, i wonder how much would be fixed if it wasn't awkwardly copied from her awkward face>>664593
i doubt it's about looking professional, it's gotta be laziness >>664618
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I know him and I asked him to. Screenshot for proof.
(Also, he knows about lolcow, so if he sees this when he's looking for milk on her, Hi Daft!)
I wouldn't even call that being lazy, it's the smart thing she should have done from the beginning. No one binds all their books at home unless they just happen to run a small press company, which is not her goal. That whole book binding misadventure was unnecessary>>664861
I'm not holding my breath.
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I like the guy but he’s got a lot on his plate post Fox Goodman, doubt he’d actually do it. If it does happen tho Holly’s reaction is sure to be rich
Yeah this isn’t a promise to do something (a video) tho, it’s a “okay I might do it if it’s interesting”
He said he’d look into it, and I take it you’re just a small tomebyoutuber that he occasionally talks to on discord so it’s not like a suggestion is going to be taken very seriously unless you asked him to give YOU criticism about your own work.
I am not going to hold my breath over this.
Back to Holly how far is SanJapan again? She doesn’t even have most of her prints ready for this and she’s already thinking of ideas for new projects/comics to start printing? Like what is she even going to sell at her table, shit sketches and two oversized prints? And Is she still sharing a table with someone? Oh god I want someone to get pics of this shit show please
Pretty sure she's sharing a table with TwistedDisaster so I'm looking forward to the rant video Holly will probably post after the con.
I'm also pretty sure if Holly doesn't get enough prints and other things ready to sell before the con she is just going to blame the zine for eating up all her time.
SanJapan anons, I really hope you'll be able to capture some pictures of Holly in the wild!
And that’s the sad thing is she will blame the zine for all her time being wasted even though she didn’t need to make it at all and could have waited until AFTER the con when she’d have time and probably a good idea of how to go about everything
What about everything else eating her time? She’s redoing her first comic all over from scratch, she’s trying to make a second one plus making weird one offs from it even though it’s not even a full chapter in? Now another doushinji for erasermic, and god knows what else
Holly, pull your head out of your ass and breathe for a minute, that’s all fucking insane
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Maybe it's just me but i clicked the link on the Zine page that holly made to only get this ? i'll leave the link below https://tictail.com/truecolorsmha/true-colors-zine-mha
i'm going to sage this just in case .
I'm guessing she was getting a fair number of orders and got overwhelmed because she has to print them herself.
I feel bad for the artists who participated, I'd be so upset and annoyed.
That Jaiden video was probably the worst thing he ever made, but I feel most of his other stuff isn't bad at all. Daft and others like him are needed in the art community. While I agree that him trying to diagnose Jaiden was fucking retarded, you kinda just sound like a butthurt Jaiden fan.>>665187
Jesus Christ. If this is really her giving up on the zine, then I seriously feel bad for the other artists. What a fucking piece of shit.
I've only seen a handful of her stuff but that Jaiden video was a hot garbage fire and he admitted himself that it was malicious. Being as bad as the flakes makes him less credible. >>665348
By that logic, Holly just has some issues that she needs to work on and we may as well close this thread.