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No. 527029

Most well known for her cal-arts rant, where she bitches about how hard it is to get in while claiming to have gotten in. Also known for giving shitty advice to impressionable beginners.

Tumblr: http://hollycbrown.com/

Mirror of aforementioned Cal-Arts rant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvnD-9XOs5k [DL][Archived Copy] [DL][Archived Copy] [DL][Archived Copy] [DL][Archived Copy]

>21 year old "freelancer" (lives at home with her mother and runs an online shop selling ugly art)

>Salty Youtube fujoshi artist that claims that her art is superior because she went to art school
>Constantly preaches that art takes hard work, claims to always practice and study but her art hasn't improved in over two years
>Whines about being a starving artist with no money, yet has enough money to buy a new Mac computer and a Cintiq tablet within the same week, then sold said cintiq because she got sponsored for her shitty shitty art
>When faced with genuine criticism, she replies with "it's my style hurrr get over it!!"
>Whines about nobody buying from her online store, but when people do, she whines about having to package and ship off her items
>Pandering to the Musicals crowd to get more Youtube $$$
>Claims to be the only non tumblrina artist and is a textbook tumblr fujo
>Generally insufferable and shitty person

No. 527031

Old thread >> >>>/snow/498020

No. 527034

Welp, botched the title

No. 527114

jeez what an ugly view

No. 527198

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No. 527203

what the fuck is that nose holly.

No. 527204

Why do all of her characters look like they're in pain?

No. 527207

>cons: looks like a late 2000's egoraptor cartoon

Hahahahaha, fuck you Holly you wish you could animate like egoraptor.

No. 527208

i cannot, for the life of me, distinguish between the thick and thin lines. usually, whenI think "thick lines" i think shit that was used for, idk, my life as a teenage robot or dexter's lab.

and does she know that most animations don't have animation? mostly because it's a bitch to do and makes the animation process even harder. i know she doesn't think things through, but really?

No. 527218


She continues to shit on people more successful than her. And also if that's the only con, then why not do it with 'thick' lines. They're not even that thick, they're like like 2px wider than her so called thin lines.

She's overly concerned with the style of her animation rather than animating correctly. She's never going to be able to finish this thing. Shoulda just made a comic, since she's so 'professional'. Or maybe just used a part of her paranormal plague comic so she could kill 2 birds w/one stone.

Oh well. Like I said before. She works harder, not smarter. whatever. crash and burn.

No. 527226

that is the most unflattering face I have ever seen. Why can I imagine her making this ugly expression

No. 527228

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wtf is going on at the bottom. I think I prefer these silhouettes only cuz we dont have to see their wack expressions

No. 527236


Ok but we still don't know who the fuck any of these characters really are, so how about telling us a bit about them first so we give a shit about silhouettes.
Also the body shapes are pretty much the same. The only thing distinguishing them is height and hair.

No. 527241

god the nose looks so fucking bad

No. 527258


> She's overly concerned with the style of her animation rather than animating correctly.

This is her in a nutshell. She is always far more concerned with it "looking good" than it actually being good. She is working on "style sheets" before she's even developed a style. She hasn't put in any of the mileage to making a good animation and instead is rushing to get shit done. Well then its going to be shit.

No. 527273

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This is the worst character silhouette I've ever seen. Holly seems to know what makes good art but she's incapable of producing it herself.

No. 527277

Wow, these are absolutely terrible. Far left and far right are almost the exact same besides the hair. I'm not even sure what's going on with the one on the bottom?

It's all just so sloppy and mediocre. All I can think of when reading about this person is "Dunning-Kruger".

No. 527279


It's cause she doesn't put any of it into enough practice. That's how she's able to talk a big game but time and time again she's never able to back any of it up.

No. 527283

lol at that thing and the brooch(/head?) next to it. No one would suspect either of these things of being a character let alone defining one

No. 527294

Baylee Jea's abomination of a book had better silhouettes than this…

Using silhouette is how you can check if you have clearly defined a pose or if your character will read well on screen or panel without any other details.
I don't know why she makes me so freaking angry.

How can Holly have her head so far up her own ass? ugh

No. 527312

looks like a fricken thumb with arms growing from the side

No. 527342

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This reminds me of that character design exercise where you make random blobs and try to find a figure in it.

No. 527369


my fucking sides…

No. 527373

Sad part is that this is actually better than the real design.

No. 527399

Oh my god anon, I fucking wish this was the original.

It's so surreal seeing her talk about art because if I didn't know what her art looked like, she often sounds like she should be capable, but she's just saying the words with no understanding.

No. 527401

This is WAY better than anything Holly could ever make–kudos to you anon for making her shitty drawings something worth looking at.

No. 527411

Can someone actually explain what it's supposed to be?

No. 527416

she actually posted what this is a silohuette of a few threads back when she was on the animation hype train for all of 5 seconds. it's a lady holding something and pointing behind her and yelling if I remember correctly

No. 527417

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Here, saged for old.

No. 527418

Ah okay, ty, I see it now.

No. 527422

>>527417 why is she holding that phone like a damn claw machine

No. 527423

Jesus christ

No. 527432

Why can’t she draw the right eye?

No. 527434

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No. 527617

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That’s…that’s not how foreshortening works.
I take it she was going for something like this? It’s hard to tell as neither arm looks connected to the body.

No. 527811

>I know I've said this before but silhouette is how you can define characters without doing anything.

Bitch, where

No. 527815


Holly just doesn't know how to draw children. They are just her regular megachin characters with a shorter forehead and a shorter jaw.
To make a character look more neotenous (like a child), you have to center their features towards the bottom half of their face. Give them a big forehead, slightly bigger eyes, and a smaller nose and mouth. Plus round cheeks and usually more pronounced ears.

Seems like Holly's thought process was "hm, how do I make the small face of a child? I'll just shave off some of the size of the head by making the chin and forehead small. That'll work! Nice and small!"

She did the exact same thing with his body. Looks like she just squashed an adult body until it looked short enough. Seriously Holly, how are you in art school…. no… how can you be a human being who has seen a child more than once in your life and think they are just shrunk adults with small chins?

She is so bad at character design, just so bad. Especially for someone who mainly draws their own original characters. You'd think if you're going to market mainly your own OCs you'd make them look good, but no.

No. 527816

Does Holly know how to draw hair laying flat on someone's head, or must she always draw that terrible flap of playdough?

No. 527817


Unsurprising. She can't draw skulls or planes of the face as previously shown.

No. 527829

Oh yeah?? Oh yeah n*a? Gonna create neotenous features? For a child character or for symbolic/metaphorical stylistic reasons? Do it and watch what happens dude:

No. 527953


that's supposed to be a child?? I thought it was just a short guy. Jesus Christ.

No. 528033

>>527417 This must be one of the ugliest things she has ever drawn, jesus fuck. I lose my god damn mind looking at it every time it gets posted.

No. 528036

This video probably influenced her in a bad way. She taught herself never to create a big forehead or a low-centered face because she thinks it makes her characters ugly. Holly really ever only draws boys she wants to fuck. She'll make her little boy characters "handsome", but in the end they just look like freakish twinks.
You can tell he's a little boy because Holly loves to draw young boys in booty shorts/bicycle spats.
Holly thinks male children are shrunken, feminine adults. Just shave their chins and make them dress like girls. Just look how she drew Damian in her webcomic. He wore booty shorts, thigh highs with a fucking garter belt, and a sailor uniform top.

No. 528056

I'm dead, good job anon

No. 528098

She's definitely got one hell of a shouta fetish. Damn

No. 528117

God exactly! Why tf is she drawing teenage boys in booty shorts?? Plus that former artist friend she used to stream with drew shota porn. Seems incredibly likely Holly is into that too.

No. 528127

The short shorts are a shota thing.

No. 528132

Wish she was just more honest about it. I don't really have a problem with shouta but it irritates me how much she denies being a shotacon AND a fujoshi.

The only issue I have is that she uses her slutty shota characters for her "professional work". I don't think your art teacher wants to see a scantly clad little boy with a bow.

No. 528201

I'm so fucking glad theres a thread on this obnoxious fucktard. I still have no idea how people can excuse her attitude and just general aura, even when her channel was just called "hollyistotallycool" and being a prick to other people. Minded she was a tad tolerable but now my goddd, still don't think she got accepted to CalArts but god damn that video was fucking hilarious just for the comments coming for her cheeks.

No. 528234

speaking of calarts video, does anybody have it because i've never actually been able to see it because it's always been taken down before i reached that part of the thread

No. 528312

check again in the last thread. Someone uploaded it on a different website. Gonna have to use google chrome though, I think.

No. 528383

No. 528385

thank you!

No. 528398

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Looool sure. The linked video is unavailable.

No. 528402

I have never actually watched the CalArts rant before… thank you for the link anon!
She sounds like a complete idiot in this. Holy fuck.
Like she missed the entire point of why they wanted a sketchbook. (Btw most portfolio submissions require sketchbooks) Christ
Sage for old rants but Jesus

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No. 528436

What image is this referring to?

No. 528439

No. 528440

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She means traced


No. 528448

She's really fucking lucky that she's a massive youtuber because that waiting until posting a ton of pages at once just doesn't fly for a lot of comic artists.

But who wants to bet that she doesnt actually have many pages done at all? or if she'll even make it to her san japan deadline of having books for paranormal plague lmfao

No. 528465



Wrow I’m bitter lads

No. 528469

I don't mean to wear a tin foil hat but is it possible that she's buying likes? She seems to have a tendency to throw money around, so is it possible she would go out of her way to put money into that?

No. 528470

I mean I aint denying that i'm not bitter. She doesn't desrve the attention with the shitty attitude and opinions she has, so

No. 528498

3K likes is not a lot, considering how many people are on instagram. Popular artists get close to 10k. If she was buying likes (she's not) she'd be getting ripped off lol

No. 528510

She’s got like 30k in followers and at most she’s received 3k ish in likes. That is only 10%. Most of her posts receive maybe 5% likes of her total followers. So the die hards support her.

No. 528535

yeah i'm an instagram artist w/ 11k and only ever seem to get 10-20% engagement unless smth blows up (featured on the explore page or whatever). the algorithm kinda sucks ass ever since they switched it from chronological to "most popular"

No. 528603

that's dead normal. venus, 200k follow, 20k like average, 10%. marzia pie 5 million follow 200k likes average 4%.

No. 528616

lol she's lucky that she's attending an online school cuz no one would respect her at an on-campus with that shit attitude. I'd love to hear student's opinions on her wonky ass art

No. 528619

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genes? what? Is this because she doesn't talk to anyone that her English is getting worse like her art?

No. 528623

her fans are disgusting as she is

No. 528646


Maybe it's because some people focus better than others and really have a story they want to tell and are able to separate fan art time from the time they put into working on their personal projects. It's called 'discipline' for a reason. Something that she does not have.

And it's not even anything special.

No. 528650

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No, don't flatter yourself, Holly.

No. 528665

Lol as if her wonky potato faces resemble any anime characters

No. 528747

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It's been said before but Jesus does this character look bad. Also what is with her obsession with 4K??? Most people can't tell the difference between 1080p and 4K anyway so why use up all that storage space?? Totally unnecessary in my opinion.

No. 528750

maybe it's because she needs everything to be the biggest and the best to cover up her garbage

No. 528751

the faces she makes on her characters portrays her personality….ugly and bitter. Lol she's gonna waste so much time waiting for the animations to export, if she's gonna go for 4K

No. 528755


Except that makes all the mistakes even more glaring.

No. 528768

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I just realised this character is an excuse for Holly to make Edward Elric into a shota.

Similar hair/personality.

No. 528810

Ugh, looking at these two side by side upsets me more. Just an ugly broken ass Edward rip off

No. 528815

god, that fucking anatomy! either go with noodle arms or blocky separated arms, don't go for both!!! it'd be more tolerable if she can animate it dynamically, but knowing her, it'd probably be shitty and stiff

No. 528816

It's hair looks disgusting, it has slime physics. This character is so visually repulsive, look at the arms they're not the same length and the straight arm doesn't even have a joint like a fucking pole. Holly said this character is meant to be like 'Gordon Ramsey' i just dk anymore.

No. 528883

This style is really unappealing and difficult to look at. There’s just so much wrong with it.

No. 528986

Does anyone else notice how close the eyes are in this? No wonder her shit looks weird she's not spacing properly. Yikes

No. 528993

The eyes have to be that close together because his face is so extremely narrow if they were any farther apart, he'd look like an ayylmao.
Many people mention Holly's problem with giant chins, but another problem she has is making the face and facial features too narrow. most of her characters either don't have cheeks or barely have cheeks. The side of their face is just a narrow, flat plane. Because she draws the face so narrow she has to make the eyes extremely close together. On adult characters you can stylistically get away with it (if you were actually good at drawing, however Holly is not), but on child characters it looks terrible.

The design on this character is really all over the place. Megaman style no-wrist arms? Usually your character is short and stubby with a rounded face, especially considering he's a child. And the hair? It just looks wrong. Is the right flap a bang or is it connected to the side part of his hair? It's too long and tall, looks like a crude play-dough bird that died and fell on someone's head. The turned up nose? it's too narrow, looks like a mickey mouse nose, it just needs to be painted black.

Let's not forget his short shorts, pink apron, giant bow, and long eyelashes. Holly wants to fuck these gussied-up little boy characters but isn't talented enough to draw them remotely sexy.

No. 529003

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Being a bit of a dick here. But I took this into photoshop and made a couple adjustments.

Separated and resized the eyes(one is slightly off balance), tried to fix the ear a little so it makes more sense, and slightly adjusted the face to fix the broken cheekbone.
Not redrawn but adjusted. Saged for art red lines?.

No. 529004

I'm sorry but this still looks bad but just in a different way?

No. 529011

Don't see the difference in this and redrawing. Yours looks as shitty as the original. Stop.

No. 529015

I was going to say haha she made it even worse somehow but then i read the post. btw your pic shows at the bottom

No. 529016

Yep, it is a clusterfuck of awful.

No. 529020

No, see, I said it would look like an ayylmao and it does. She needs to restructure the whole damn face, not just rearrange some elements.

No. 529024

God yes. There is no saving this thing. It's awful.

No. 529025

>Holly wants to fuck these gussied-up little boy characters but isn't talented enough to draw them remotely sexy.
This is true and yet she said on twitter something about maybe pitching her pilot (which is this chef thing isn't it) to kids. Like this plus the bj in the art book suggests to me she lives in fujoreality and doesn't understand you don't try to sell lewd shit to kids

No. 529031

I think she may actually believe that little boys are like fully grown men but smaller, cuter, and more feminized, like her sexual fantasies. There is no little boy alive that would dress and act like her characters.
She doesn't understand marketing and how to appeal to an audience, or curating one. She was blessed by the youtube gods and now she thinks that everyone loves her awful ideas and awful drawings.

No. 529051

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>strong backgrounds

Something about this looks super unappealing to me, maybe it's the color choice. Also, nice that she admits her animations will be "poor" before she even started doing them.

No. 529067


By the way I didn't do the redline, just >>529003 felt the need to clarify since I was a dumbass and didn't crop my original screenshot

No. 529070

its muddy. all of her colors are muddy. her warm colors are all brown and her cool colors are gray.

No. 529074

Because she doesn't know color theory. She just slaps an orange or blue overlay layer on top of everything to "harmonize" the colors.

No. 529075

Lmfao why is she bragging about that background? It looks wonky, prespective is all over the place, little to no detail makes it look like a TV set, not an actual kitchen, has that horrible blank space on the left, has literally no personality and I'm not even sure if it is supposed to be a kitchen from a restaurant? If it is, it looks nothing like it. And the character is placed way too low on that pic jfc

No. 529077

Holly's obsession with huge resolutions is ridiculous. Maybe it'll look better in 10 years when 4k is standard, but no one is going to be watching this piece of garbage in 10 years (assuming she even finishes it, which I find doubtful). All it's going to do is waste time and hard drive space. Old Disney cartoons like Snow White are still cherished, even though they are grainy, because the animation is beautiful. If she would actually put her focus on learning the fundamentals of animation instead of all the miscellany of the project, maybe she would have a chance at creating something decent. But she never wants to learn. She just wants to cut straight to publishing finished projects without putting in any effort, so she will always be bad.

No. 529080

Holly's art doesn't look good now, it won't look good in 10 years. It'll probably look even worse as people develop even better art techniques.

No. 529084

I didn't really mean "good" as in good. I just meant "good" as in clear. Crap will always be crap.

No. 529085

God, those teeth. I hate it when people with 'cartoony' styles don't realize that giving your flat, silly-limb cartoon characters anatomically realistic teeth is fucking terrifying. (And, in Holly's case, they're not even correct, which makes it even worse, like some Silent Hill monster).
It really speaks to how Holly doesn't know how to stylize, let alone how to make something appealing. Probably why the 'fix' other anon posted still looks like trash.

No. 529109

ngl this looks worse

No. 529142

>I feel like you're a bitch
>Dude…why the negativity…
Top fucking kek, these are two consecutive comments by the same person. Her fanbase suits Holly well.

No. 529145

This is upsetting to look at, literally everything is off. I think using shapes is a good way to learn and lineless animation is cool but this looks legit awful.

No. 529148

The eye is still super fucked…
(sorry I didn't crop it before the posting the red line)

No. 529157

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This character is like a Holly version of Megaman from the Completed Works art book.
You can tell she was going for
-cute shota
-flat stylized anime hair
-thick limbs
-short shorts
-childlike appearance and face

Instead of making a cute tesuka/astroboy/old anime style cute young protagonist, Holly makes a freakish chimera. She is unable to stop drawing giant chinned paper dolls. She seems to be locked into a certain style of drawing as she only really knows how to create symbols of what she sees. She hasn't demonstrated once a knowledge of 3d space in her art. All of her drawings are very stiff, and all suffer from the same problems every single time.

Her having absolutely 0 sense of style also makes everything so much worse. The hair would look bad even if drawn properly, and the giant bow in the back? Completely ruins the silhouette and makes a lot of weird tangents/blobs that are hard to read.

No. 529158

lmfaoo imagine this animation with the quality of that stupid halloween dance thing she made for Jazza's contest. She's like skipping all the class freshmen take and is jumping into senior projects. Also what strong background? She just slapped some traced cabinets and then that's it lol

No. 529214

>the faces she makes on her characters portrays her personality….ugly and bitter.

The faces she puts on her characters bother me so much! It's like she learned human emotions and expressions from watching anime instead of observing people. Also she's been ripping off the style of the artist of Long Exposure for awhile now, instead of developing her own style through studying. She's 22 and still approaches art like a high schooler.

No. 529295

>The hair would look bad even if drawn properly
Fucking this, anon. I've never thought of it that way but you're absolutely right, everything from design to execution is wrong.
Reminds me of those stupid glasses Simon wears; they'll never be okay, no matter who draws them.

No. 529322

Which is hilarious, because that particular artist gets super annoyed when anyone copies their style. Lmao

No. 529340

Oh my fucking god, I just looked up Long Exposure and you are so right. Every single element of Holly's style is a complete rip off. The eyes, expressions, clothes, panels. Jfc, does she have ANY originality?? No wonder her art fucking sucks, she uses every shortcut to cheat and steal instead of studying and actually working hard.

I'm so, so disappointed.

No. 529348

Anybody have a link or pictures of Long Exposure's art? Google keeps showing me long exposure pictures instead lmfao

No. 529350

Off-topic but that Long Exposure comic is just a rip off of jaymamon’s style

No. 529351

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Long Exposure

No. 529354

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at least Long Exposure's isnt as fucking stiff as Holly's

No. 529357

every art style is a rip off of every other art style tbh. when you draw you take inspiration from the media you consume and replicate it either subconsciously or consciously. this long exposure thing is kinda throwing the thread off topic and i'm pretty sure it's come up before.

No. 529361

I can see the influence. Holly’s art kinda looks like what you would get if someone with no art knowledge stole the worst bits of the ‘Long Exposure’ art style and tried to make an art style of their own.

No. 529366


Just cause it might've come up before, doesn't mean its off limits. And its not off topic. It's on the topic of Holly not studying the fundamentals or developing her own style.

No. 529370

Holly’s lineless work is so ugly. At least with her lined art there is vague attempts at making things look anatomically correct, but with her lineless art she somehow gets even lazier.

I know she’s trying for a more cartoonish style, but she’s not simplified the faces enough so it just leaves her characters looking very uncanny.

No. 529372


completely agree. i almost feel like because she built herself up to be like "the lineart youtuber" with the brush pens and stuff, that she's trying to distance herself as much as she can from that image

No. 529374

holy shit. It's like Holly's art, but better looking. Gdi that expression is just creeping me out cuz of how much Holly uses it. I love how she's always like you have to create your own original stuff, but she doesn't even do it

No. 529393

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What the FUCK
Why does this artist think it's ok to steal from Holly Brown?? Here's the original…smh

No. 529394

That broken foot is on point

No. 529395

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Holly forgot to add her filter

No. 529397

Oh god I just cackled thank you clever anons for that laugh

No. 529404

I wouldn't say Long Exposure is better looking, those large ass chins and expressions are still ugly. It's just more skillfully drawn. Of all the artists Holly could've copied she chose this one, shows her shit taste in art too.

OT but why are fujos so obsessed with making the "bottom" a feminine soft boi and the "top" a masculine asshole, like they're incapable of drawing a gay couple unless they project straight dynamics onto them. The short brown kid looks like a woman with how big his hips and how small his shoulders are smh

No. 529428

Because they can’t get it out of their heads that one guy has to be “the girl” therefore more feminine. It’s a fucked up trope

Hopefully Holly will grow out of it. But if she’s into the shota side of things she might not. I’m not going to touch that psychological can of worms with a ten foot pole.

She also has weird hatred of females and in a sense herself. She may be projecting herself into her male characters. Possibly why she makes one super feminine, a wish of something she may want to be? Idk sage for Freudian nonsense.

No. 529568

oh my god, i was already dying and then i scrolled down to the feet and my fucking sides

this is the only acceptable fanart, everyone else take note

+1 now it's perfect

No. 529584

there's a right way to do that twink/bear type dichotomy but it hinges on both of them still acting like fucking men. these self-insert fujos might make the characters different in appearance to hide it but their feminine bias bleeds through. there are men who prefer a more androgynous/feminine appearance but they're still men beneath that.

perma virgin NEETs like holly have no idea how normal people act, much less men in general, much less gay men. her characters have as much depth as her art, but the only male characters who aren't obvious projections of her are a stereotype peeled from someone else's better creation. she's the primest example of why interaction with people is so integral to writing/drawing realistic people.

No. 529666

I watched that video before she took it down. iirc it was a project involving her recycling pages of her sketchbook. Dang I should've saved that long ago because I could barely remember what happened in that video.

>Off-topic but that Long Exposure comic is just a rip off of jaymamon’s style
Saying x is a rip off of y is really tiring. And yeah you can point out similarities and such but also I've seen so many artists who have similar styles (mainly because they influence each other and whatnot) and I don't really see the point of comparing one to another.

OT I still think comparing artists is bad and the underlying thought of "hey you're ripping off of x's style and I think you should. Reminded me of the gawki v feverworm problem and the two watercolor artists I follow back then (something which is something they should have solved in private tbh).

Wish she's tone down the weird anime hair and fucked up proportions. Also the background seemed flat to me. The framing and 'foreshortening' was bad too. Wish someone would do a fundamentals challenge.

The way she draws characters lacks depth and perspective. Like those eyes and hair at >>529051. She didn't make an effort to make the other eye look smaller and the right side of the hair looks longer than the left side. At least the pic you posted had some depth to it despite it being anime style, something a lot of artists who only study from anime fail in doing.

>these self-insert fujos might make the characters different in appearance to hide it but their feminine bias bleeds through. there are men who prefer a more androgynous/feminine appearance but they're still men beneath that.
OT but I get war flashbacks to that time I see fanart of my fave characters being together. I just hate it so much. Fujos are a disease and makes people who write realistic gay relationships look bad.

No. 529672

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>At least the pic you posted had some depth to it despite it being anime style, something a lot of artists who only study from anime fail in doing.
Industry level anime artists actually understand the fundies and drawing in 3d space. Amateurs like Holly often rely on it as a crutch because it looks easy to do. Thus, anime style gets a bad reputation.
It actually takes a lot of skill to reduce/simplify forms in a drawing. Problem is, it looks so effortless that beginners don't understand the skill needed to actually get gud, and end up symbol drawing for years and years. It's deceptive, but there's no excuse to remain trash. Every single weaboo/anime artist is told constantly to study the fundies but it usually goes in one ear, out the other. Like Holly.

No. 529686

You don't even have to spend hours studying anatomy to learn this stuff. Observing people, actively remembering proportional landmarks on a person and drawing with perspective in mind is the only thing you need to master this stuff. The problem with weeb artists is they never look at real people, they just reference other anime. Just like Holly is doing. The only time she references people is for school homework it seems.

No. 529691

Wait, from what I know the sketchbook you submit to CalArts is lost forever as they don’t send it back. Anybody knows it that’s true or not?
Also I Would never dismantle something that received that much appreciation/a ticket for that kind of school so I’m not really buying it.

No. 529695

Taken from the CalArts website;
"Only portfolios submitted with a self-addressed, pre-paid package will be mailed back to students."

No. 529716

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oml get ready for this, anons

No. 529717

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Yeah, I dont think you're really learning correctly. That bike looks flat and curved. And those legs. Also why does she always add random lines in the arms? Is that to define the muscle or lighting??

No. 529730


neither since she obviously doesn't know the placement of either.
it looks like he's riding that bike in reverse, and I love how his expression looks like he doesn't know what he's doing, much like Holly.
god, this picture looks so flat. and his knees wtf, that's not where you put your legs on a bike…

No. 529741

Thank you anon.

I think they’re supposed to be lines to define shadows, but of course since she doesn’t understand anatomy or volume they don’t work well. Also I think it contrasts with the rest of her “style” and something like this can’t be used on a single body part only.
Wow she got even lazier, doesn’t want to ink her pages anymore? Maybe she realised there’s no way she can finish her comic in time and she’s trying to use shortcuts or maybe she’s just bored with her famous “thin line inking”.

No. 529745

I think she's trying to describe the Triceps with that weird ass line on the upper arm, but she did it wrong. The line on the wrist is also off… I know what she's trying to do but she missed the mark.
She just doesn't understand the lines she's using to describe anatomical form.

No. 529752

I think it is a unanimous agreement that she needs to get out and interact with real people.

No. 529755

Problem's with the bike in this pic:

1. that bike's back wheel is flat

2. that is not where you place your legs/feet on a bike like that. His thighs should be closer to if not hugging the gas tank. And his feet aren't even on the pedals/whatever

3. Dude's fucking slipping off the back of the bike.

4. The seat is also weirdly placed and it makes him look like he's sitting on the passenger seat, not the rider's seat.

5. he shouldn't be literally laying on his stomach to reach the handlebars.

6. She drew a pretty standard motorbike but she fucking drew it too big. Literally…she should have just referenced a guy sitting on a bike…not that fucking hard, Holly.

No. 529757

bike and the guy* so basically the entire pic kek

No. 529761

He looks like he's fucking the gas tank.

No. 529767

knowing holly, he probably is

No. 529771

I was holding off saying that till seeing the scene because maybe he is meant to be falling off/just jumped on it not knowing how to ride it. I mean writing that out it sounds stupid now but i just thought she can't be so dumb to draw him actually riding it like that with gearshift foot thing all the way up there

No. 529778

the motorbike is a hasty reworking of what was a young boy character

No. 529780

No. 529782

most bikes have a kickstand so you'd have to consciously kick it up before you take off (or in an instance where the stand is directly under the bike, you'd have to push the bike forward to release it and then hop on) which would slow you down and make just hoping on and riding away unlikely and I doubt Holly knows this or even considered it when she drew the pic.

No. 529783

I feel like this needs a mic drop LMAO

No. 529784


I mean, that could still be what's happening but it still shows how little thought goes into a drawing for holly

No. 529786


hardy kek

No. 529787

Will she stick with it?

I am only two minutes in and am about to have a rage fit… She is so arrogant and uninformed! ARG

No. 529789

she wants to pay for voice actors…peanuts I bet

No. 529791


>talks about naming her dude 'quirk'

>talks about science and how there are 6 'quirks'
>she's actually talking about 'quarks'

is quark pronounced differently in texas??

No. 529797


omfg…the tall fucking 'quark' guy is supposed to be a match to the shota boy

she fucking matched a shota boy with an obvious adult… her fujoness is far reaching and never ending

No. 529800

Ew! She's such a grows, greasy fujo!

No. 529801

You are taking that out of context.

When you are creating characters for a comic or animation you often want to 'match' your character lineup by using complimentary color schemes or repeating character 'shapes'. This often helps visually identify the characters as being from the same 'group' or suggests that the characters have similar interests or goals.

No. 529847

Lmao, Holly is one of those "I luv science" normies who thinks space looks pretty and theoretical physics is so cool and interesting.
Basically an idiot fascinated with shit she can't understand. Fuck sometimes it's just embarrassing, like her "primortial" soup.

No. 529863

maybe her youtube vids doing so well despite the bad art is because she has a kind of listenable voice. in the latest one she's not swearing egregiously or burping and i don't really mind listening to her talk. it's recorded cleanly and her voice/speaking style just sort of comfy

No. 529870

My fucking sides

Not to derail or suck the artists' dick but it's not really that kind of story. The short kid is a chubby nerd that gets bullied in school and is otherwise pretty normal.

I know Fujos who freely admit that they hate women/female characters, and even Holly herself has said that she relates more to "gay" pairings. Gay in quotes because it has nothing to do with actual gay dudes.

No. 529873


Jesus, this is so frustrating to watch. I know it's sped up and all, but she just rushes everything she draws, ever. If she did more than one initial sketch (like you're supposed to lol) so much of the stiffness would go away

No. 529874

>Hey guys I'm kinda lazy and don't want to ink this comic anymore, that cool?
Why even bother at this point.

No. 529876


I actually think this is a great idea. It's out of laziness, sure, but because she draws at 10,000,000 DPI her lines from the comic look really bad even though she's definitely capable of way better

this could, of course, just be remedied by her using a reasonable goddamn dpi, but that will never happen

No. 529879

Doesn't she only draw at 600 DPI? That's not that ridiculous.

No. 529920


600dpi is really unnecessary for the things she's doing. She can just get away with 350 and be fine.

No. 529938

im cringing at the part where shes fucking around with 3D models. the colours don't look to bad to me, but that's with the characters all separate from each other - i don't doubt that it'll look like a clusterfuck when all the characters together in one scene.

No. 529956

Oh Christ, anon, you do not want to see her sketching process. In a (now deleted?) livestream, she was drawing a Heather's character playing croquet, and she did do more than the initial sketch, but it didn't matter anyway because none of her sketches were good nor even informed by the sketches underneath. It was like she made the initial sketch and then deleted it from her memory and made it again over the top.
It was so goddamn infuriating to watch, I swear that vid could be used as torture. Something has to be wrong with her to not understand what she was doing.

No. 529959

I can't make it past the first UM. Just the tone she uses makes me rage.

No. 530075

I and some artists I know use 600 dpi for b/w comics (in her case Purgatory, I guess), because the lines are a bit more crisp in print. It doesn't actually affect how it looks on screen unless it looks bad to begin with, and lower res won't fix that.

No. 530095

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lol her arms are so short and wtf is with his hand

No. 530102

She got the eye spacing right on the dude at least… and fucked it up again on the female.

No. 530104

Is it just me or does every expression she draws have that DreamWorks smug/angry eyebrow? She hardly branches out from it, it makes her characters all look the same.

No. 530105

>i dont want to pay for another animation program

if she has adobe suite, then doesn't that mean she has access to Flash??? Does she just buy the most expensive thing and not even read what comes with it? wtf. And also why so much details? the only reason one should add more details is just to clarify like if its a fast fighting scene and such, which will sometimes be added in the final animation. She's making this like a rough comic book and not a storyboard

No. 530109

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what are those manga lines for?? And oh god, the placement of the characters is gonna make the audience confused like, hey! they were there and then all of a sudden theyre there?

No. 530110

She said that it doesn't work on her computer. Which seems quite odd considering her iMac is a fairly recent model.

>Good day
>Those hands
I guess that's relative.

No. 530152

She has learned all of her animation knowledge from watching stuff(i believe is what she said)
She needs to read a fucking book on storyboarding at least!
In the first few chapters, they all go over Character Placement in a scene and not breaking the 180 rule.

Honestly, she would benefit from reading some damn books, fuck social interactions, for now, the girl needs some actual knowledge in her brain.

No. 530207


> what are those manga lines for?

I've noticed this before and I think Holly just puts those there when she can't think of anything else to put in the background. In actual manga they are used for dramatic moments, but idk if Holly actually got that.

No. 530208

I feel like she's gonna use a lot of dialogue to make up for the fact that she can't tell a story without it because I have no idea what the heck is going on in this scene. I hope she knows that it's less words and more actions unless you're doing like Simpsons type of animations..which she's not.

No. 530218

Maybe I'm just not thinking hard enough but I cannot even fathom what could be happening in this scene based on the storyboard, and that's always a bad sign. How do you draw comics for years and never learn about the 180 rule or how to frame things?

No. 530227

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The zoom on that shitty face on the left is meme worthy lol. How does she think any of that looks remotely okay

No. 530280

is he in pain, disgusted, angry?? the expression on his face is from another dimension

No. 530297

Also if this whole setting is supposed to be a restaurant of sorts why is she using a model of a honestly kitchen. No restaurant would have clunky cupboards or countertops like that… who would be able to do any prep work in that area?

No. 530298

But anon, she doesn’t like real restaurant kitchen!

No. 530300

Yeah, she said that restaurant kitchens are not aesthetically pleasing so she's picking this one. It doesn't even have a stovetop or a sink though…

No. 530332

Yeah, real restaurant kitchens are boring and not suitable for what she wants but bitch, aren't you an artist?? Design a location then, really sucks being limited by the CAD models you can find to trace.

No. 530336

He looks like a fuckin fallout ghoul, sneaking around the corner and hissing at you

No. 530405

The thing is then her characters should stand out more if the setting is boring. But, since Holly has shit aesthetics and her character designs are bland af she has to rely on the kitchen… which looks like the kitchen of a stay at home mom with kids who hate her. It just doesn't fit and its so fucking irritating to hear someone rave about knowing every little fucking thing but not know shit about anything

No. 530439

This! Thank you!
I am so sick of the arrogance!
The kitchen thing for example, restaurant kitchens are designed a specific way for easy of use and the health code(cooling/heating tables, shelves instead of cupboards, etc)
She has no fucking clue why things are designed a specific way.

No. 530475

It isn't just you. It was discussed and a collage was made, I think, last thread.

All her characters look so punchable.

No. 530528

She should have put the fat girl closer to the left side of the panel. It would have made more sense for the establishing shot she used.

No. 530600

Honestly! Like how much of a douche do you have to be to complain on the aesthetics of industry kitchens when they have to look that way! God I just want her to quit this entire short idea since she didn't do any research of what one looks or how one is run. Theres a lot I don't care about but fuck the culinary industry is one thing that will immediately tick me off

No. 530689

Not to mention the fact that she doesn't even know how lighting works. Why is there a massive shadow on one side of the 3D rendered kitchen? Does she not know that rooms inside of buildings have centralized lighting from the ceiling? How does she not know this, it's not even just a kitchen thing, it's literally how rooms in general are lit??

No. 530785

Why why why is his nose like that? Upside down triangle? Has Holly seen noses? Ever?

Her “storyboarding” is just her copy and pasting. She needs to watch a few pros. Jesus

No. 530887

I feel like she's setting herself up to fail. Why wouldn't she just make a comic for her final project? And she says she has a 'year' to complete this project but she's starting on it straight away because of 'lack of time'. She doesn't know the bare bones of animation but also she is going out of her way to make 'money shots' and shortcuts to do as little animation as possible. what's the fucking point?

No. 530888

But at least she seems happier and she has a proper goal. I just hope she doesn't crash when it doesn't turn out the way she wants it to.

No. 530921

Tbh how long was it before she started drawing nsfw crap of her purgatory kids? I'm counting the days until she posts lewds of the restaurant shortfilm boy.

No. 530924

ot, but i binge read long exposure the other day after seeing it on this thread and it isn't as bad as i expected. It plays off of tropes of course (nerd/bully romance) but like, its well done?

I expected the story to be as crap as purgatory for some reason, but its pacing is good and the story is actually interesting. Holly should take notes from Mars (LE author) on how to make a comic that isn't boring as shit and has a CONSISTENT update schedule.

No. 530930

I feel like Holly just sets herself up for failure most of the time. Making an animation thesis is no easy feat which is why it is often a group effort in most college animation programs such as Calarts animation program. Holly not only has to teach herself how to animate properly but she will also have to learn things like sound design to put this thing all together. On top of all this it’s not like making this animation will be helpful overall to Holly’s future unless she is really gunning to become an animator and if she does actually want to become an animator in the future I feel like she already shot herself in the foot with her awful online personality.

No. 530932


I binge read it the other day as well. Although I'm not really a fan of the art style, at least I can tell that the artist knows how to draw. The characters don't look the same, and the poses never look stiff. There were a few earlier panels that were underwhelming, but overall, Long Exposure is an example of an artist who knows how to draw, even if I don't particularly care for her style.

Holly should read it and take note about the poses. That's my biggest gripe with her art, it doesn't matter how simple or complex her characters are, they always look unnatural and stiff. Hell, even when her characters are just standing still doing nothing, they still look so stiff.

No. 530944

Yeah restaurant kitchens aren't "cute" or whatever. It's the designers/artists job to make them that way. A large portion of the movie Ratatouille takes place in an industrial kitchen and it looks beautiful and has great atmosphere, because the concept artists had skill and good vision. She can't put blame on the subject, she can only blame herself for not trying even a little bit.

No. 530950

I break in hives thinking about working professionally in such a kitchen as Holly is using. Also there is no machinery there either and if there ever will be she'll most likely model them after "cute" household utilities instead of anything you could actually work with in a restaurant.

Making a story about a specific industry kinda requires research if you don't happen to have the knowledge in the first place and we all know she doesn't.

No. 530968

i dont get the point of her animation. why is she doing this weird rotation scene? it's unnecessary. it doesn't add to the story. its stupid

No. 530979

I remember that in an old video she said that she payed for the adobe suite and the froze it to not pay anymore so maybe that fucked her in the ass when she upgraded her pc?

No. 530983

I really thought this was Lainey fanart..

No. 530996

>mfw secretly excited more people are discovering LE even if it's because of Holly

I think the issue with Holly and her stuff is that it all feels so empty. She's always using shortcuts and trying to do less work which is not inherently a bad thing but I feel like she distills everything down into a "product" that she just tries to churn out as quickly as possible. This animation project has barely started and she's already talking about cheating herself out of having to animate and phoning it in instead of just making it shorter. She doesn't care about good, just done. Her approach to art is like some soulless industry person that doesn't give a shit anymore and just does the least to collect their paycheck, except she's still a student living at home and has the opportunity to make whatever she wants because YT is her main income.

No. 530999


She knows cigarettes don't come out of the pack lit right?

No. 531008

I watched her latest video and she’s putting Black Pants with a Navy Blue Blazer. I get she wants to differentiate the values but I’m pretty sure everybody knows you never put navy blue and black, especially on suits. Probably nitpicking but it frustrates me to no end

No. 531010


Why is the ten year old smoking? Christ, Holly

No. 531034

Some of us are blocked from her Twitter so a screencap would be awesome, thanks!

No. 531051

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Why did she animate him smoking? Wasn’t he supposed to be a kid??

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No. 531077

This is what happens when you don't pick up a book and read about timing.

No. 531078

The funniest part to me is the hair, she does the Goku thing where the hair flips horizontally instead of showing another angle of the hair.

No. 531099


From what I can tell by looking at it, the kid comes around and sees the other workers slacking off. I think the lines are supposed to be like what you see in those cartoons where they like, zoom in to dramatize the action a character is doing. She'll probably like add sound effects in the back. I guess after that they argue or try to explain why they were slacking?? I have no idea what the last 5 panels are though, maybe he's telling them what to do? Either way, if it can't be easily translated by others, then it's not a very good storyboard. Not to mention the drawings are stiff and as we already know, her anatomy is trash.

No. 531104

You can draw like shit and still tell a readable story. I have no clue what is going on in this thing though

No. 531121

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Whenever we discuss her anatomy here I think of ONE/the artist who made One Punch Man and Mob Psycho 100. His art is far from impressive, but it communicates the story clearly and that's enough to be successful.

No. 531185

how does his bangs stick back to normal form like they're magnets. Learn your shit, Holly. I know you can do a lot of unrealistic things with animation, but it's gotta make sense. She should record herself to get the references, but knowing Holly, that bitch be too lazy.

No. 531236

why does she keeps insisting with the animation tho? Nobody cares about that trashy kitchen nightmare lol
nobody wants to watch crappy animation Holly, get your shit together with the comic at least, and please choice a path, or you become an animator; a comic artist or illustrator ffs

No. 531291

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Dont you guys know, Holly knows a lot about animation -rolls eyes forever

No. 531297

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lol well… so i mean… haha

No. 531337

>when your bangs turn into the side of your hair when you turn to the side
Holly, unable to understand 3d space.

No. 531345

Except goku's hair has a good silhouette and it's pitch black so you can get away with not defining all the forms.

No. 531364

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Ok yeah some cartoons have 4 fingers and can get away with it because they know how to draw hands, but Holly just makes it look like a dinosaur claw. And who reaches for a cigar like that with the cigar popping out by itself with no hand movement that's holding it

No. 531424

Calling it now, Holly uses this exact excuse when she eventually draws porn of this kid.

No. 531466

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Holly "broken ankles, broken dreams" Brown just sent me this image. She says she's ditched the lineless style because the amorphous blobs reminded her of eating too much play dough at foster care and having to get her stomach pumped. The first and last time she ate anything other than tv dinner.
No critiques please, we know they aren't necessary.

No. 531471

The claws, that foot, I'm dying!

No. 531507

I'm not saying the animation is good but considering how fast Holly is able to shit things like this out, it seems like Holly might have a future in animation if she moves to a sweatshop in Korea!

No. 531509

thanks for the nightmares anon

No. 531552

400 year old loli syndrome strikes.

No. 531582

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Oh the irony…and also if she didnt spend so much unnecessary purchases for a con, she wouldn't be shit poor. Ya know, I thought she didnt want to spend a lot of money on animation programs and that's why she's using photoshop? Which is it, Holly?

No. 531585

yeah thats true, but she probably can't even do a basic ball bounce without it bouncing hella fast and no squash and stretches. And also, i dont think she can copy other's art styles perfectly without it making it wonky. I can't also imagine her attitude amongst the skilled animators…

No. 531595

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Yes she did the same thing for clip studio paint, and she used to say that flash was a shit program but now she’s all defensive about it and calls out ignorance in the community. That’s the holly way. I’m really sad because I know she will get this money too and I am saving up to buy this program for quite a long time but since I don’t shit money like her, I end up saving or using money for stuff that’s actually needed. Good job on buying a program you will not be able to use properly and shit on it before realising you only have to put effort into understanding the interface.
She’s such an hypocrite.
Yeah because if you make reviews you OF course can make the thing. All historicists fought wars, every wine critique can make wine, every food critique is a chef, movie reviewers are all actors and directors and only comic book makers are allowed to review comics. What a wonderful world she lives in.

Pic related: now it’s either toon boom or tvpaint, so long for “I’m only using photoshop”, it’s not even a third option.

No. 531596

This behaviour of hers is really annoying. Why can't she just use what she already possess? Why does she have to always buy "the best tools" in order to make anything?

No. 531598

She can buy whatever she wants but shitting on them first and telling people it’s idiotic to buy a program if you can use another one you’re paying for is even worse than simply watching her waste money.
At least the stuff she wanted for the conventions… well, she wanted them all. This program? She stressed out it’s too pricey and useless because it’s THE SAME with ps (and I hate that thing, if you’ve never used a thing you can’t say it’s the same) and then… begs for money to have that “unnecessary” program that is now vital.

No. 531600

I don't know if she's eligible, but students can get a discount on the TVPaint license so it shouldn't be that much. It's like 50% off. I hope she's actually done research and downloaded the trial and not just decided to buy it because other people are using it and she thinks it would be better.

>most of the super difficult stuff isn't actually hard

No. 531601

And to clarify, by "not that much", I mean not $1500, it's still expensive lol

No. 531603

She’s only been using photoshop so far, she would have stated she tried it if she did. And of course she didn’t do her researches or her online school is not valid for the discount.
This is not her first time buying stuff without even trying them first and realising they’re not good for her.
Remember the screenprinting supplies, for instance?

No. 531605

Yeah, but screenprinting I kinda get because you might not have access to a workshop to try it. Software is honestly just inexcusable because they allow you to try it.

What does she even need the pro license for? She has the creative suite for compositing/blending layers, and the standard version is only 500€. You don't get to complain about not having money and then just flush other people's cash down the drain too.

No. 531607

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Is there anything she DOESN'T hate?

No. 531608


No. 531716

Lessons I've learned from Holly C Brown: If I spend more money on animation programs, my animation will be better. If I spend more money on accessories for my con table, I will sell more prints. If I spend more money on anything, I won't have to put actual hard work in. The quality of my work is a 1:1 ratio with how much money I spend on producing and distributing it.

She's wasted all her money on crap that hasn't gotten her anywhere, now the well has run dry and she's begging other people to waste their money on more crap that won't get her anywhere. Sage for rant but she really pisses me off.

No. 531845

This pisses me right off. She doesn't know the first thing about being resourceful. Again, all she does is try to 'buy' professionalism, and doesn't even properly use what she has to its fullest capacity because she doesn't bother to learn with what she's got. She's too busy spending money instead of investing time into bettering her actual skills.

Didn't she have clip studio at one point? …does she not know that she could upgrade to pro, for less…and use the ridiculously easy animation interface on that? She's so fucking spoiled, and not smart at all.

It was different when it was all her own money she was spending but now it's other people who are naiive enough to believe that she'll be making FUTURE use of this program.

No. 531848

I have a free version of TVP (that isn't difficult to find, honestly), and it's not the easiest program to just pick up and use. There's a learning curve. So she has to learn a new program ON TOP OF trying to animate. She's not even learning to animate she's just moving figures. I sincerely hope people call her out when she tries to talk shit about the program that people helped her to afford

Also, how are those prints, stickers, pencil cases and art books going, holly?

You know.

For San Japan?

…what a hot mess.

No. 531850

wow…she used to shit on the better animation programs and now she wants them. I can't with this girl.

No. 531852

She's not gonna "animate faster" or "better" with TVpaint that's for sure. It's a very 'no shortcuts' kind of program and we all know that's all she'll be looking for as soon as she gets her grubby fingernails on it.

..And it's still gonna look like crap.

No. 531853

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oh lord…higher quality dont mean shit when your animation's poopoo, Holly!

No. 531886

What's with her and her obsession with 4K?

No. 531934

No. 531945

I don't know a lot about traditional animation so please correct me if I am wrong but a lot of the things Holly mentioned in this video sound like they might be outdated? Also why is Holly messing with traditional animation so much? Wouldn't it just be much cheaper/easier for her to make the sketches on her ipad (which she paid so much money for) and then just import it into the animation program of her choosing?

No. 531946

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>"I'll do extensive tutorials on this program if I get it :)"

>this whole video is just her rambling about peg boards so she can beg for money

> her braindead audience is still gonna donate to her

No. 531951


It's not necessarily outdated, but a lot of it is wrong. I got a peg bar for like $2. They are NOT that expensive. Animation is an investment no matter what and I don't know why she's trying to talk on a subject she doesn't know shit about. All she's concerned about is what products to buy instead of actually doing the work fuck this video, fuck her. sorry for the rant, animation just hits close to home.

No. 531954

Ooooh, her being able to say she can provide tutorials for that new program despite not even knowing it pisses me offffff. I can animate, just barely, in 3d, but I do not go around saying shit like that just because I got the new fancy maya software. Ffs she’s not Rebecca Sugar, Alex Hirsch, or even the animators of FMA—she needs to step offff

No. 531963

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Same anon as above, but y’all, look what she just replied to me when I said that maybe she shouldn’t be teaching people because she’s going to be new to the program insert side eye emoji bc I’m so done She makes it seem as if I’m telling her never to teach anything, yikes

No. 531972

lol i saw holly freaking out at the anon's comment and it was funny.

also, once again, holly is praising the art supplies and not technique. does she even know stretch and squash? im not an animator, not even close, but even i know its about technique not supplies

No. 531975

My sides, either she's really that stupid that she can't comprehend what you said or she's going out her way to twist your words.

No. 531978

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Oh no Anon, she's annoyed - eye roll

No. 531980

Lol wow, watching her freak out is actually kinda fun. But in all seriousness, yeah, people who don't know what they're doing are not equipped to teach others. It's the blind leading the blind.

No. 531993

Beginners can help each other out and learn together, but they can't teach from a place of knowledge. Holly has a terrible case of dunning kruger effect.

No. 532036

One person complaining = mass of people with pitchforks. But she’s never exaggerating or over reacting

No. 532049

So, to critique something it's required to be a maximum expert of the topic, but to teach you can be a beginner because whatever.

Holly, make up your mind.

No. 532058

Lmao so holly considers herself a “professional” normally but is also a “beginner” when it’s convenient to her ok girl

She always says she’s open to constructive critique but acts as if people are attacking her if they give it. Then says she doesn’t want/need to learn from masters/professionals, she’s learned more from beginners than pros!! It shows, Holly.

This is why she plataeus so hard, she doesn’t want to accept that what she is producing isn’t considered perfect or industry-standard by everyone in the art community. She thinks she’s a diamond in the rough just waiting to be discovered, oh I know everything already why am i not the next Rebecca sugar yet??? Ugh, so frustrating to watch.

No. 532076

holy buttholes, she is one annoying kid lool. I believe those people who are explaining how to use tv paint probably have used it for more than a year and like she said, theres a lot out there. Why does she need to make one kek. It's like if anyone says anything, she plugs her ears and goes "NONONONO" like a 5 year old. Hey, Holly if you're reading this thread again, then please open your mind and instead of raging

No. 532090

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Lol look at her rage

No. 532093

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So…she does do figure drawing, but it looks like she doesn't know what a line of action is or how to add weight…these look stiff af

No. 532095

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No. 532098

lol was your comment deleted because I can't see it

No. 532110

"practise based learning" doesn't work well, but she encourages stuff like the 600 page sketchbook challenge?? lol

No. 532113

Of course, let's skip the basics, who has time for that?
Damn her project is going to suck (if she ever finishes it).

No. 532134

Dear god… as an illustration student this pissed me off so much. My first year painting class was basically paiting fruits for the first semester to learn the basics (e.g. saturation, warm/cool), and even when we moved to paiting figures they were 3 hour poses just to learn other basic knowledge. YOU have to go through ‘boring’ stuff to be able to move onto the next level.
Sorry for ranting but Holly makes no sense and it looks like her classes are not teaching her anything either.

No. 532147

Why is she stylizing the skulls so much?? Isnt it meant to be a study? Her art looks like shit because she doesn't know how to draw realism, and then when she stylizes things it looks horrible

No. 532171

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that same face syndrome though…You can't just slap a diff wig on the characters and call it a day…

No. 532177

Lol all of her characters have the same facial expressions.

No. 532201

Awwwww, that’s sad. Nice to see Holly tries to hide all evidence of people who critique her to make her channel look better. Smh, she wil never learn to be open minded like this

No. 532216

>the pros are teaching pros and have no time for basics

This is such bullshit, pros have made tutorials about the fundamentals of photoshop. In fact I've learned a few bad habits from watching intermediate level artists use photoshop in clunky ways. The pros are the ones who know how to streamline the process to save you time. And as we've all seen Holly is no great master at photoshop, probably bc she learned the program from kids on the internet.

No. 532223

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tfw the redraw looks uglier and can't tell who it is even with the wig

No. 532228

Holly doesn't respect professionals, she's always criticizing people who are better than her. Remember when she was shit talking the artist who draws Yugioh. She's pretty delusional to think her Ed looks better than the official anime with "off color" hair.

No. 532244

Bitch, if you (Holly) animated it, the fans and the managaka would cry. The anime industry would be in tears at the bs u call ~animation~ (which FYI is really just her drawing and redrawing poses to how she approximates actual movement which is COMPLETELY incorrect).
Ooooh, I am so fucking salty at her blatant disrespect for real hardworking animators

No. 532276

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how… did that fix anything. Holly's color theory is just playing with the hue/saturation slider and calling it a day.

No. 532298

oh it's supposed to be night? looks like under water. stupid bint

No. 532310

I started laughing so hard, they look like they're underwater

No. 532314

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Just leave him alone already, ffs

No. 532320

All she seems to be talking about is her animated short, meanwhile I'm wondering what happened to purgatory. Did it finish? Is it over? Abandoned? What's the status? What happened to all her other priorities? And if she still has all those priorities in mind, does she not realize this is a great way to ensure nothing gets done, or if it gets done it'll be done poorly? Does she not care?

Find out on the next episode of 400 Year Old Shota Kitchen.

No. 532330

…And none of them look like Ed, kek

No. 532338

>>I don’t like traditional animations
>>this program is like doing traditional animations so I want it
>>implying timing is only done with traditional tools

Man. Also why should I donate to her to get a tutorial about a program most people can’t afford? People able to buy that program already know where to look for tutorials and infos and they would do the same thing as her: experiment and find the options as they go.

No. 532340

>>532330 Why did she give him 3 different noses

No. 532352

I can't believe ppl have bought her like over 30 of those kofi things

No. 532353

lol all of her drawings look like theyre in pain or some shit. She needs to flip her drawings to look at how awful it looks

No. 532359

She's got like 5 different faces and hair variations here and none of them even look like Ed.

Color is admittedly one of Holly's stronger suits, but she has no idea how it works outside of her comfort zone. She really is peak Dunning-Kruger.

No. 532371

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Yeah, it has like minor issues, but I bet you that she didn't even try to use this program and just rage quit when she couldn't figure something out. Shits on things that pros such as Studio Ghibli uses smh.

No. 532398

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>thinking she’s in ANY position to criticise studio fucking bones

No. 532406

god, she can't decide what age she wants to draw him. these are all over the fucking place

No. 532409

like others have said, it looks like they're underwater in her """fix"""
the lighting for the rest of the picture is warm, why would she "correct" it by making everything cool to match the hair? if anything needs changing, it's the hue of the hair, tho honestly it looks alright to me. she claims she knows so much about colour theory and yet she doesn't understand any of what she talks about.

No. 532434

That's a good point, how many people actually use tv paint?? The ones who use it are probably in s

No. 532439

That's a good point, how many people actually use tv paint and would benefit from Holly's tutorials?? The ones who use it are probably in school learning from their teachers or are professionals.

No. 532517

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TV Paint is the main piece of software they use at CalArts for 2d, and I really doubt Holly is going to give any sort of tutorial to rival the best animation school in the US.

No. 532527

How can she expect to put out tutorials for TVPaint when her audience is probably in the same position as she is as to affording the program?

No. 532539


I bet you anything she's going to hate the program and end up not even using it, and will talk shit about it later on, just to say that she has it. She's such an ungrateful bitch and I hope we're all keeping track of that.

No. 532542

I honestly feel like she's been getting away with too much and I would sincerely like to see her knocked down a couple pegs. She's gotten beyond insufferable and I really just want her to actually learn a lesson.

No. 532551

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Nu-weebs were a mistake

No. 532555

She probably will get knocked down a couple of pegs if
A: She doesn't get the funds for the program.
B: She doesn't finish the animation on time for her degree
C: She doesn't make a profit doing the convention

Of course, knowing Holly, she might just make excuses for the above.

No. 532613

She starts to feel like a scammer tbh. She has all these projects and nothing gets finished. She spends a lot of money on bullshit but when it comes to making the actual product (Sketches COLOR VERSION - preorder) they are still waiting to be made, because she doesn't have everything she needs.

To look at her storenvy, the original Sketches vol 1. In the description says it 160 pages black and white, costs now (on sale) $7
Sketches color version costs $25 but it has 120 pages and it says it's "full color" but you can see from the previews, all the sketches are not in full color, and multiple sketches crop out awkwardly. Costs more, less pages, is not full color and doesn't exist yet.

We have seen only one commission being finished, yet she talked like she has multiple.
She is asking money for the tvpaint and doesn't even know how to use it and she knows, she is not going to animate anything else in the future. There is no guarantee she is going to finish the kitchen-animation.

No. 532626

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This character represents how I feel about Holly entirely.

No. 532658

has she ever drawn this character without a stroke face?

No. 532662


You make really legit points, anon. This is pretty scammy behavior. She doesn't have even one project to back up or justify anyone giving her money, and even when people aren't giving her money, she's complaining about how 'broke' she is and literally the next day will spend hundreds on a thing she'll barely even use.

She needs to pick a lane and stay in it. Preferably not animation. She'll animate half-ass for two days and then make a video acting like she knows everything there is to know about what animators need to do and get.

I think she is a scam artist and really does need to be called out on her shit before more people get suckered into her schemes. She's not 'poor' or 'broke', she's just shitty at managing money and will look for any way to turn a buck, and will try to get it from her large audience if she can so that she can buy more shit she won't need.

It's honestly got to stop.

No. 532663

I completely agree and i'm not being devil's advocate, but isn't the kitchen shota for school?

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