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Hellweek begins Sunday, April 5th

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No. 550611

Most well known for her cal-arts rant, where she bitches about how hard it is to get in while claiming to have gotten in. Also known for giving shitty advice to impressionable beginners.

Tumblr: http://hollycbrown.com/

Mirror of aforementioned Cal-Arts rant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvnD-9XOs5k [DL][Archived Copy] [DL][Archived Copy] [DL][Archived Copy]

>21 year old "freelancer" (lives at home with her mother and runs an online shop selling ugly art)

>Salty Youtube fujoshi artist that claims that her art is superior because she went to art school
>Constantly preaches that art takes hard work, claims to always practice and study but her art hasn't improved in over two years
>Whines about being a starving artist with no money, yet has enough money to buy a new Mac computer and a Cintiq tablet within the same week, then sold said cintiq because she got sponsored for her shitty shitty art
>When faced with genuine criticism, she replies with "it's my style hurrr get over it!!"
>Whines about nobody buying from her online store, but when people do, she whines about having to package and ship off her items
>Pandering to the Musicals crowd to get more Youtube $$$
>Claims to be the only non tumblrina artist and is a textbook tumblr fujo
>Generally insufferable and shitty person

In the previous thread:
>Holly backtracks on her animation goals and starts the 100 days of making comics challenge
>Her lack of tact massively backfires on her as people get pissed about her constantly shitting on everyone
>Holly BALEETS most of her videos and posts two rants about how she's "Done with the drama" and "won't say anything again ever"
>Opens commissions to make money instead
>Deletes those videos too and decides to just go back her regular video and abandon any critical thinking altogether

Is Holly literally autistic, or have the years of being a shut-in just eroded her social skills? Will she ever stop deleting negative comments? Let's find out.

Previous thread: >>>>>>/snow/527029

No. 550614

Previous Thread >>> >>>/snow/550612

No. 550617

No. 550774

god thats a good thread pic

No. 550940


How's she even doing on that 100 days of comics challenge since she's been doing mainly animating and storyboard shit for the past few weeks, did she drop the ball on that again?

No. 550943


The header OP is just copy pasted from the last thread so it's kind of outdated, but yeah after her meltdown, she quit the 100 days of comics challenge a while ago.

No. 550946

I'm surprised she used to churn out lots of crap during challenges but I guess the laziness has full on eclipsed her.

No. 550976

Some recent-ish events since the summary in OP is a bit outdated:

>Holly ragequit the 100 days of comics challenge

>starts prepping for con season
>keeps tracing over shitty pose dolls and defending it by saying the pros do it too
>buys a book printing press and complains about it not working the way she hoped
>basically goes broke buying even more shit
>sets up a donation pool for a 1500 USD TVPaint Pro license ("I just gotta")
>starts an 8 minute short film as her Illustration BA final project
>hilarity ensues because shit's bad

No. 551019


Some other fun bits include:

>welp, dad died, time to claim his old room.

>shits on professionals in animation industry via twitter
>tries to 'fix'/'reanimate' a scene from old FMA anime. makes it worse.
>too scatterbrained to focus on one thing at a time
>actually considers moving out to California with practically 0 work to back her up.
>actually considers pitching her 'clever kitchen' concept to studios
>actually considers the 'TV rating' for the concept.

No. 551022


bless you anon(s)

No. 551166

Jfc that’s on point
Really puts all of Brown’s bull shit into perspective. What a mess lol

No. 551245

The random shit that came after the last thread reached 1100 made me wonder if her fans were trying to lock it before another could be made and linked, kek.

No. 551252

Aside from one guy claiming to have known her and someone else venting it was probs just some attention seeking anons.

Right now she tweeted bout some spam on her youtube or whatever. My guess is she's going to be focusing on this whole printer mishap for a little while.

No. 551292

No. 551295

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Looks like some painful landing there

No. 551307

in which Ed(?) breaks both his feet and becomes a figure recognized by his three prosthetic limbs.

No. 551311

proof that expensive art tools don't make you a better artist kek can't believe she paid $900+ for this when she has a huge screen tablet and mac desktop

No. 551330


How. How does she think feet can go to that angle? Has she ever flexed her foot? How could she possibly think you can see a leg straight on as well as the entire bottom of foot. Couldn't she just like… move her foot to see that what she drew is absolutely fucking broken? I don't understand.

No. 551335

Ah yes. Broken ankle, straight leg. A Holly staple.

No. 551371

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I'm making a Holly art bingo, anyone have any more suggestions on what to add?

No. 551372

weird noses, muddy colors or bright neon colors,wonky perspective, disappearing objects

No. 551374

Bricks. Lots of bricks.

No. 551375

oh god I was about to put that in, I'm not the only one who noticed

No. 551376

90 degree butts

No. 551378

this maybe: >>537503
and " "hands" ".

No. 551379

dont forget the saggy and mind of its own boobs

No. 551385

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Raised eyebrow

No. 551388

also mitten hands and collapsed/flat skulls

idk what to call those weird, incorrect poses she does on bikes/horses

No. 551393

I kekked so hard
He looks like he's flailing his arms in a fit while trying to breakdance and breaking his feet in the process

No. 551399


Yes, I second dreamworks brow.

>Also bad hands gripping things/chunky fingers.

>Stiff posing.

No. 551402

That anime laugh with the tilted head

No. 551405

half closed eyes no matter what the expression

No. 551410

Oo I second the hands not gripping objects their holding somehow it drives me insane

No. 551437

Unnecessary eye squinting

No. 551444

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funny example imo

No. 551446

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>>551444 how the fuck does that even work
(also im sorry for the shitty edit, im no atist but i wanted to atleast find a way for it to work?)

No. 551450

How in the fuck is that camera being held

Also really excited for this bingo

No. 551452

I'll upload it tomorrow since I have to sift for examples.
And I'm already too tired so I'm heading to bed.

No. 551463

I know shoes are very very tricky to get because they're so many kinds and the surface is not uniform so it's hard to get it right without getting close to tracing sometimes. But Holly seems to have discovered the "sole facing forward" side and gone "Wow I'm so smart. Two shapes, boom, a shoe. Never gonna use anything else ever again."

I want to add : Redraws that are somehow worse than the original (ie her purgatory comic) and failed foreshortening

No. 551464


Maybe the grid should be smaller?

My contribution to the bingo, though:

- Fucked up perspective
- Obvious traced part of the art
- "Where the fuck is the light source" shading

No. 551487

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Dreamworks face

No. 551537

Holly art fuck-up bingo. Damn anon that's hilarious

No. 551549

All alone, in a nowhere near centered spot in her comic word bubbles, a single “Yes.” or “no.”

No. 551609

Yu-Gi-Oh hair

No. 551614

Can we get a slide for fucked up/floaty animation too?

No. 551679

Holly always tries to emulate the line quality/flow of professional animators, but fails to realize that you have to be able to draw accurately before you draw fast.

I wish we could add the word "PROFESSIONAL", but I guess that's not exactly the contents of her art lmao.

Definitely add hands though.

No. 551689

alternate game, take a shot every time she says "professional" or "idk"

No. 551707

I don't like alcohol poisoning, sorry.

No. 551755


love how she just left like 40 seconds of empty video so it'd be over 10 minutes lol

dirty room?

No. 551760

I can’t stand the stiff taffy hair she draws what even is going on with these lifeless chunks

No. 551793

Maybe add Instagram purge or politically incorrect tweets?

No. 551794

>21 year old "freelancer" (lives at home with her mother and runs an online shop selling ugly art)

She's 22 now. Someone should probably fix that on the next one.

No. 551797


Redraws that look much worse than the original

No. 551826

I was thinking about it but I wanted to keep it art related.

No. 551830

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Of course our Holly had to participate in this meme.

No. 551834


God she’s so fucking hideous. Appropriate for someone who’s also ugly as fuck on the inside as well.

No. 551842

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Poor Holly.
I know she’s got that curly as fuck hair but does she ever brush it?

No. 551846

that guy with the purple hair in the bottom left corner has such a bad color for his skin tone, it looks muddy and grey it doesn't look like an actual skin tone at all.

No. 551853

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Updated. Two slots remain.

No. 551856

making white characters poc?

No. 551862

empty backgrounds (no other people ever exist ever)

muddy colors

that same long face

No. 551865

I’m loving this so much it’s unhealthy.
Another art topic…. mmm “my new equipment is better than yours”? There’s the soulless cats she draws but they’re not really common… all of her animals are really laughable. Something about the lettering or her perfect layouts?

No. 551872

Maybe something about the sketchbook slam challenge? Or her weird yaoi art?

No. 551878

Seconding something equipment related & anything about those awful speech bubble layouts

No. 551884

Spending money to cut corners/yet another new merch item?

No. 551894

Honestly, her face strangely suits her art. Ed in the top rightalmost has the same face shape as her lmao.

No. 551900

It's actually amazing how often she does the snarl/grimace expression. Everyone's always angry, annoyed, or looks smug. No one has a pleasant looking happy face.

No. 551910

It’s a reflection of herself

No. 551933

crooked penises

No. 551953

"animals from a different reality" is what i second.

No. 551975

According to her, that fixes same face syndrome - rolls eyes.

No. 551977

The unnecessary wood texture!!

No. 551981

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Why does this look bad??? It still has the art lean

No. 551985


I swear this is not the first or even the second time she has misspelled necessary like that what is it with her and her flimsy fucking grasp of the English language

No. 551989

She thinks this is at the level of Miyazaki… oh wow

No. 551995

It's even sadder when you know that browsers and phone apps have spell-check features, which means she purposely ignores it for some bizarre reason.

No. 552015

I'm pretty sure the people who work for him can work faster and efficiently than you Holly, because of how much they draw (not just mindlessly) and their years of studying. lol. That roof looks like mess jeesh. Not even aligned with the front of the bathhouse (green part)

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Cause basic perspective lines are totes unnecessary
How can’t she see how wonky this is? It doesn’t matter how many details she adds. The foundations are fucked. Even the line of windows is slanted, they get smaller to the right.

Holly for fucks sake, use references from real life!

No. 552037

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This is what she’s trying to recreate.

No. 552113

She's already made it full of inaccuracies. The smoke stack should be taller than the building, the sign on the front door is completely different, and the flag isn't remotely set up right, are the most obvious flaws, but there's definitely others.

No. 552126

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No. 552127


My fuckin sides

No. 552135

lmaoo this has to be the best re-drawing
lmfao Holly's colors are so ugly

No. 552137

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I kinda like the old version better lol
Ofc, they're both as equally wonky as fuck, but here's more stylization in the old one that makes it more interesting to look at.

No. 552144

The old one, even though it still had a lot of flaws, looks like it has more character and stylisation put into it. Where as the redraw just looks flat, flawed and very dull

No. 552147

I agree with you, anon.
I honestly don't know how Holly calls this progress

No. 552192

Going backwards is also progress if you think about it.

No. 552228


I'm weak. Though, there wouldn't be fingers, rather there'd be paws.

No. 552248

Brushing it alone will look dull, flat, and ruin the beachy waves. God forbid if she did that with short hair she would have the dutch boy hairstyle

What she needs a good cut that goes with her face shape, no tumblr coloring bullshit, use a shampoo and conditioner that sulfate free, no additional product since this could weight the hair down and cause acne, blow-dry with diffuser on hot then blast with cold after showering, and optional invest in a silk pillowcase to prevent any frizz.

Source: eurofag with the same hair type

No. 552264

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so many things wrong with this drawing

No. 552268

That skirt is all kinda of wrong, it looks like it’s barely covering her ass or that the pleats are horizontal as opposed to vertical like they should be

No. 552270


If you erase the face it's astronomically better, though. Still not great, but if she just used any kind of guideline it'd be so much better…..

No. 552275

I'm thinking about buying something from her (something small) just to see if she actually gets shit out to customers and is decent quality for the price. I'm nosy as fuck and dubious of the quality of her work and store shit.

Sage for off topic

No. 552278

The new one looks like a bad background asset for a third rate video game.

No. 552279

I have a feeling that’s because this is probably poorly traced from an art doll or something.

No. 552288

This body and pose is "I bought a How To Draw Manga book yesterday" quality. How is this coming from someone who went to a specialized art high school and is about to have a degree in it?

No. 552300

She must have the smallest nose in history.

No. 552310


Just cause she went to school for it and did the bare minimum on assignments doesn't mean shed'd know how to do it. She does it out of obligation and doesn't do studies outside of her courses, obviously, or she wouldn't be tracing off of pose dolls.

No. 552342


That’s not even their assigned seats in canon oh I am laffin further proof that she only gets into popular shit for likes

No. 552395

its funny to cycle between them on instagram because they just lean in alternate directions

No. 552414

Does anyone have that pic Holly drew…
it was fanart of the starfighter main character.
It was a profile shot, and he has a giant chin.

No. 552420

I laugh so hard because she really bought a batch of HtDM recently.
Again her mentality that owning/buying something will make you a professional. Now she’s gonna have a degree and be able to be the shitty teacher jealous of other people’s talent she hated in high school. She just can’t seem to understand that she needs to practice while actively thinking of what she’s doing instead of spending on programs and tools.
Loving the bent thumb! But as someone suggested, this is way too detailed and complex, she would have at max some paw hands under the camera. My guess is he just got mutilated for that panel, they look like broken wrists or he’s handless.
Ahahah all of the proportions are wrong in her picture. It was also idiotic to use the previous version as a base just to save some details. If you don’t want to redraw it, don’t. It’s simple. She focuses on details instead of the big picture/ mass allocation. I see a pattern. I still can’t believe that amateurish (at best) as she is, she is still perceived as a goddess and professional by her subs. Sure, that’s because she claims to be a professional herself, but everybody with eyes and a working brain could call it bullshit.

Also guys it’s bothering me to no end that she made the video crying about people who said she should die, and then says everybody who uses mc leod’s music should kill themselves. It’s really, really bothering me that nobody’s calling her out on this just because she’s funny and hhhhhhhhonest

No. 552424

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So curious now of what she received. Any thoughts?

No. 552445

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Here you go anon

No. 552458

We all talk about her chins but can we please focus on that fucked up nose, please?

No. 552459

The old one is so stylized that the wonkyness seems almost intentional. Also switching to digital really hurt the appeal of her art, there is a way to make digital art not look bland and lifeless but this isn't it.

No. 552460

You get out of art school what you put into it. If you complete the work you can graduate, even if you half ass it and only produce shit. It's mostly for networking/getting experience rather than learning how to do art.

No. 552470

Except holly. Online classes, and her attitude? What kind of experience and connection could she even get?

No. 552476

I always unironically enjoy her old building drawings.
Yes they're wonky but I think it's such an interesting style and you can tell she had fun making them.

Her 'improved' version is tragic though what a bloody shame. Digital art and those thin lines do her no favours.

No. 552493

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In re-drawing that she did i typed "where is it?", but i deleted because i feel guilty.

No. 552524

I mean, she did say that she basically only got the online degree to get her mom to shut up about her being a NEET/"self employed". Having a degree in this field means nothing if your portfolio doesn't back it up.

No. 552538

What kind of clueless boomer mom does holly have? She's already making YouTube bux and is wayyyyyy more monetarily successful than her art warrants. For her level of skill, she's already "made it".
Holly is throwing money in the toilet with this dumb online art school.

No. 552552

This comment sounds kinda kiss ass and….

Holly dat you?

Honestly I doubt she makes enough to support herself if she lived alone. ESPECIALLY with all the bullshit she buys. Whose to say she's not spending college loans on all her dumb shit. Also, how does her ass not drive already? I feel bad for her mom. She seems like a burden besides the fact she bought her mom a washer & dryer

Anyone check her YouTube social blade?

No. 552555

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>Implying YT is a stable, long term career
>Implying having 200k subs gives you "YouTube bux"
top fucking kek

…Why don't you check it?
She's not making that much according to their predictions. It's probably a bit off since she deleted so many videos though.

No. 552556

No I am not Holly. I just know of a lot of boomer parents who force their kids to go to college because they've been taught it's the only option for success.

Also I'm not saying Holly is rich, or that she is self sufficient. I am saying she got super fucking lucky and is making decent money with art that is worth next to nothing.
If holly wasn't blessed by the YouTube gods she would be making 20 dollars a month from random Tumblr commissions. She makes around 50k a year. Way more than her art deserves.

No. 552557

Yeah. Checked it right after I posted that lel

But yeah YouTubes not stable unless you're consistently putting out good content and you're not sabotaging yourself.

I predict holly will fuck herself bad at one point by being he hateful backtracking goblin she is

No. 552558

If I drew like holly and got more than 1000 dollars a year I would consider myself lucky.

No. 552559

Where did you get the 50k a year? She's definitely not getting enough views for that.

No. 552560

What does a college degree matter to Holly? She's already burned too many bridges in the industry with her pointless drama and incidiary remarks about actual professionals. It's not like she's going to get a legit art career.

No. 552562

I remember she made a video once semi-humble-bragging about it. It was her YT revenue combined with her merchandise sales. This was a whole back, though. She definitely doesn't upload as frequently anymore and I think her viral videos lost a lot of steam.
That and she may have been embellishing her actual income.

No. 552564

Yeah, I'd believe that during the time her channel really blew up and she made a bunch of her ~controversial~ videos, but not anymore. I do wonder how much she makes from her merch.

No. 552603

Has anyone else here seen this? This is what i imagine Holly did in school lmao.

"My art teachers want me to do my assignments?! Its obviously because they're jealous of my young anime talent XD"

No. 552611

Imagine if holly and that other girl had a baby.

No. 552638

Something I've been thinking about. Holly likely lurks and this "oh no i have HATERS" thing has been going on for a while now. Is she so delusional and un-self aware of the fact that she's a fucking idiot and bad at art? Sure, okay, personality is hard to change up, but if so many people are shitting on her art, she's gotta take a moment to think "Wow, yeah these people are right, I should learn to fix this so they can get off my ass and I can remain on my high horse." At the very least, actually improving her art would be a slap to our faces.

No. 552648

I think maybe she would IF the art looked bad to her, but she seems totally unaware of how crappy she draws so to her all of these comments and redlining is just hate because she’s famous, and we’re being silly.

No. 552688

Woaah, where did she say this at?

No. 552715

holy shit this is exactly like a Holly replica.

No. 552729

dear god…this is like Holly minus all the screaming and not swearing. Had to stop listening after she remarked that her teacher was mad at her because her teacher supposedly "jealous" of her "better" art skills.

No. 552732

the comments in that video also show that this youtuber has the same audience that Holly does: 10-13 year old edgelords screaming back at any critique

No. 552740

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Art cutting is not as serious an art as drawing you guys. Drawing takes years to master!!! Anyone can take a ruler and scissors and cut paper okay it's so easy and worthless in comparison.

This girl makes my chest tight.

No. 552743

Ohh I thought she was talking about collage making because I think she mentioned magazines. How old is this kid anyway? Her art seems like she’s still in grade school, but I’m pretty sure she’s out of high school

No. 552744


She showed examples of paper cutting when she was bitching about it. More simple cutting, but still.

But maybe I misunderstood. Although based on what she was saying she'd probably argue this too. Because omg drawing is the only real difficult form of art.

No. 552756

Which she can’t master, just like Holly.

No. 552836

I used GIMP for years for my digital artworks, mainly illustrations, and not to brag but they weren't bad. Is this a friend of Holly? They think alike

No. 552924


Oh jesus its Spechie, how did I not make the comparison between Spechie and Holly.
Spechie honestly deserves her own thread if she doesn't already have one. She's A LOT like Holly but less loud about it.

I think one of the most noteable things about her is that she once got in trouble at her school for talking shit about a girl there. Then she got somewhat of a following and started acting like a diva, including treating some friends like shit, cause she was convinced people were trying to get at her "youtube fame"
Sound familiar?

Now that I think about it, if you put these two in the same room I wonder if they'll get along and be awful together or if they'll talk shit behind each other's back.

No. 552932


Prolly both. Spechie has a lot of growing up to do. But they both need to learn humility.

No. 552945


yeah i was looking to a spechie thread earlier and couldn't find one. She's been bitched about in the general artists/youtube artist thread a whole lot though. Anyone own to make it?

No. 552960

I'm very interested now. Never heard of her before and that first video I just watched was definitely off-putting.
Can someone please make one of her?

No. 552961

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I dont think it works like that…

No. 552963

You've got to be kidding me.
Becoming vegetarian =/= Automatically losing weight.

No. 552972

She is going gain from all the pasta eating

No. 553009

Haha. Ha. It doesn't work like that.

I have a feeling that Holly would be the type to forget that you have to supplement nutrients when you go vegetarian. She seems like the type who'd eat nothing but potato chips for a week and wonder why she almost passes out every time she stands up.

No. 553019

…Vegan and vegetarian food can easily be just as fattening as "regular" food. Just because it's mostly plant-based doesn't mean it's always that much better for you. If you eat like a fatass, surprise, you're gonna be a fatass. She's so dense.

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Money from comissions?? Did she even finish those??

No. 553034


Expensive splurge incoming, then?

No. 553039

ah yes, adulting means spending a BIG amount of money on useless things and wonder why you have nothing at the end. I guess I'm doing it wrong then, guys!

No. 553044

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Omg…PLEASE don't ruin his art. Im guessing she's already trying to do studies of his pieces without even trying to "study"

No. 553055

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Ok I finally finished it.

No. 553087

No. 553089

it is….beautiful

No. 553105


chefs kiss a masterpiece

No. 553114


So she basically took the original leaning bath house, and then like…drew OVER it as a guide instead of starting from scratch with the proper foundation? LOL. And oh my GOD she's drawing all the small details first before getting the building's proportions and main foundation down…She always does things half-assed-backwards.

>my art used to lean to one side

used to ? It still fuckin leans.

>Holly gatekeeping what a 'challenge' is again.

Stfu, Holly. Just. Shut up.

No. 553116

she definitely reads the comments lol. she ranted about people talking about her art regressing, as these thread have done multiple times before. I also find it funny how she mentioned people's art style looking ugly and how some people need to learn about aesthetics, while many of us have been saying the same thing about her. Real life case of manure calling dog crap, shit.

No. 553119

I like how she said in the video that what might be challenging for one person, might not be challenging for someone else. If she truly understood this then why did she go around tearing down every challenge video she didn't like? Lol, she even made a whole video telling people not to title challenge videos, challenges. Get it together sis.

No. 553123

Holy shit no wonder she gets perspective so wrong. She just copy pastes parallel planes with no care about the vanashing point or horizon line.
How hard it is to use the built in perspective tools?

No. 553125

On posting studies:

>It's not that I don't do it at all, it's just not important to me.

Stop trying to cover up the fact you don't do studies, Holly, we know you don't think your foundations are important. You post the same 5 studies of those wonky as skulls/heads over and over again. You're not fooling anyone.

>don't draw everything with full brightness and stuff

>proceeds to overuse 'overlay'.

No. 553146

So she "fixed" the old drawing on photoshoped, kinda traced the same old drawing, and drew on top of that. Why doesn't she use perspective guide lines?????

No. 553148

As a former sort of fan of hers I bought shit from her and I can say she does pack them well by putting the prints into some sort of cardboard and if you have a big print she'd ship it separately to avoid damages. Her prints are fine as far as quality goes I guess but the art is shitty ofc. I bought a handmade sketchbook which is the worst thing to ever exist since the cut isn't straight on the edges and the binding broke and its just fucking small. Yeah I regret my purchases.

No. 553179

the scale of those fucking white grid things kills me. It is SO OFF

No. 553212

The old one at least had some personality to it, god how is she so delusional

No. 553214

y'know actually the broken spine and shitty book isn't a surprise to me considering how she tutorialed covering a hard back sketch book.

It was so damn sloppy and I could practically see all the cat hairs stuck to the contact paper. she dropped the book on her lap because she forgot Gravity is a thing and that shit made me cringe.

Why on earth would she give a "tutorial" with the book flopping everywhere and not on a flat surface is beyond me.

No. 553216

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Also wtf is she talking about, her style has been the same for fucking years

No. 553224

is that like a side account for Holly….?

No. 553244

Actually this is a valid point. I wouldn't say Holly has improved, she's just shifted style. She's gone from thick lines to thin and changed the way she colors, that shows zero growth in the Way she draws which has remained the same. Some artists never improve for years, they just keep shifting styles. This is common in a lot of anime style artists who never practice fundamentals. Holly doesn't have better color sense or anatomy or perspective knowledge, she just have changed up some surface details.

No. 553257

Nah they're very different people, with different kinds of bad art lol.

But she's been making those duck-lipped mice for like 8 years now lmao literally nothing has changed about terri's art.
But she and rebecca asspat holly all the time.

No. 553408

Chips and beer vegan is only vegan diet she has patience to try. If anything she is going to gain weight.

No. 553415

She talks about learning form but everything she draws and "paints" screams she knows absolutely nothing about form. She's been watching some actual artists who know what they're talking about and is now repeating what they're saying, I bet.

No. 553425

The saddest thing about all of Holly's work is that it's not intentional. Poor thing, she must've been dropped on her giant head as a baby and can't do art no matter how hard she tries.

No. 553434


>"you have these tools (layer modes) at your disposal, use them!"

THEN USE THE FILL TOOL OR LASSO BRUSH!!!! Why does she still manually fill everything in???? Fuck!!!!

No. 553526

Instant bingo every time she uploads tbh

I almost laughed out loud when she did the texture on the front of the building and didn't even transform it into perspective, just rotated it.

Also I can't fucking wait for her "how to cure art lean" video, where all of her examples still lean.

No. 553528

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She retweeted this. As if she knows any animation principle.

No. 553529

>Holly implying she has ever looked at Richard Willams' book before
good one.

No. 553531

How is it possible to improve so little over the years? God.

No. 553534

Holly, since you clearly love reading this thread: All of the studies you post on Twitter look really bad, people don't put realism on a pedestal, it's literally the foundation of everything you draw. A lot of artists don't post their studies, but they don't have to because you can see it in their work.

No. 553540

And she blatantly lied saying she does more stuff for school. She stated tons of times that she only rushes her assignments at the last minute and since she’s so proud of the few crappy realisms she makes to the point of posting them over and over and over again, this is the same old kind of exaggeration she loves to use.
Just like a couple comments are serious harassment, she receives death treats on regular basis, so on so forth

No. 553550

>"Some peoples art styles are just ugly"

Holly definitely stalks the threads. Holly if you are reading this the only reason some people are saying you regressed is because half of the people on this site are still trying to justify why you even got popular. Your art is ugly. It was always ugly. You just got lucky in finding an audience. I guess people find you relateable and junk so congrats on your e-fame. Just remember that this fame has nothing to do with your 'skills' in art and that no one actually follows you for your hideous artwork or your asinine stories.

No. 553552

Holly would benefit from learning from the principles and foundations of animation since she’s so gung-ho about making a pilot.
I think we can all tell that she’s never actually studied animation before which is really frustrating. Just doing a bouncing ball or a pendulum would help Holly so much. It wouldn’t even take very long.

No. 553554

Her art reflects her ugly ass, broke back personality

No. 553558

Ayyy lmao

No. 553614

You can probably make a safe bet that she hasn't done ONE bouncing ball or pendulum study. She just went right in with the characters, and clearly she isn't serious or done studies, because she's just "moving her drawings" not "animating her characters".


In all seriousness, she's the kind of person who'll become irrelevant when it comes to e-fame. It's kind of already happening. Every time she sees a slip in attention she does some shitty stunt to keep people looking.

I feel like people outgrow her. And they realize sooner or later she's never focused on any ONE of her projects at a time. Like, she's always jumping around and begging for money so she can fuel her shopping addiction.

No. 553618

Her art is appealing to fujos who have no standards and looks good to teens who draw worse than her. The rest of her audience are probably there for her edgy rants, or hope to experience some of her e-fame by kissing her ass (like the artists who are better than her drawing fanart of her characters)

No. 553637

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No. 553641

My God. Bet they won't accept her next year lol

No. 553646

lmao this is so her. makes a mistake, blames it on something else.

No. 553647

Holly can't even spell her own name right. And then she tries to start shit with her revenue source… oh Holly. Never change.

No. 553648

LOL >>553637 ah yes, shit on the con you are atending

No. 553654

This is GOLD

No. 553663

I'm suffering from sceond hand embarrassment just reading this lmao, oh my god. Also
>its was so cool of them to be Holly BRown
This is a native English speaker.

No. 553694

Isn’t the literal meaning of what she said be like “they enjoyed being Holly BRown”? Like, I had to go and like adapting in my mind what she could mean, that’s “how cool of them to call me Holly BRown” but the more I look at that sentence the less I can understand how is that a native, honest.
I mean, I’m not native and I can spot EVERY error she makes.

No. 553696

im wincing and this us painful, but i oddly connect to the "LOL SORRY"

No. 553700


Lol she was in such a rush to call an error out that she didn't stop to think for a second that maybe she was rushing to apply that she didn't proofread her own name.

But, nah, Holly BRown doesn't make mistakes lmao my sides. She's probably going to be a nightmare to work with, I already feel for the con staff or whoever is going to have to deal with her.

No. 553770

So professional

No. 553787

You know I almost feel like her lack of friends irl leads her to tweet shit normal people would just text their friends about. Can’t wait to see what happens at San Japan

No. 553946

Same anon, couldn’t wait for sanjapan to come sooner. Holly will crash and burn then come out with a video bitching about how she didn’t make money back cause of course she just had to spend so much money on useless shit

No. 553992

I'm legit curious how much merch she actually has for this event.

No. 554006

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No. 554008


Lmaoooo she's so mad

No. 554009

>Someone who can't spell
Kek that's rich coming from you, Holly

No. 554032

According to a previous anon her sketchbooks aren't good quality either?? How is she going to do a 600 page one? Also holly ffs focus on your con shit.

No. 554046

>Instant bingo every time she uploads tbh
>every time she uploads
why do you follow her?

sageing myself

No. 554081

I think all of us are following her lulzy online activity anon, not following because we like her art. I thought that was obvious.

No. 554090


Are you new here, anon?

No. 554141

I’m confused, if no one follows Holly how do you expect milk?

No. 554179

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Is she really gonna go with this….could go spend time on her animation than rather waste time as usual. sigh

No. 554180

She could've just have contacted them in private but no instead she wanted to be a jackass, what a surprise.

No. 554185

Lmao what a dick. This is how you alienate yourself and appear unfriendly and unapproachable.

This is not how you further your career.

No professional is going to see her acting like this and think, "hm, yeah I'd like to work with holly brown!"

What a bitch.

No. 554188

I'm confused - she used a scraped/auto-generated amazon made-on-demand speculative page with none sold as an indicator of a market for 600 page sketchbooks branded with "challenge". Is she going to manufacture these?

No. 554190

There are already 600 page sketchbooks on sale at amazon but they don't have Holly's trademark "sketchbook slam challenge" written on them.

Those sketchbooks are hardcover, too. I don't know why holly thinks there is a market for these in paperback for even more money.

No. 554214

fuck me, that cover design looks like something outta highschooler gossip magazines from 2001. the text is so small and if that thing is going to be on a rack nobody will even see it.

hey holly, just go on pinterest or youtube and search graphic design. there's more to it than just choosing a curly font and some pastels. i beg you…

No. 554222

I spose a reason she doesn't use a grid is she draws in photoshop instead of illustrator. I'm not an artist - is this normal or weird and constraining?

No. 554230

Well yes at this point a territorial pissing is “nesissary”, Holly. Just keep in mind your typos and errors are way worse than a misplaced h.
She’s salty because people are “making profit out of her ideas”. Which is not that genius and as already said it’s not like she has trademark over big sketchbooks which she didn’t even make herself for her challenge.
God why is she so salty? Most of the challenges on YT never credit the original author…

No. 554235

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Here she goes again, the girl who always talks about cheating and that refuses to use lazo, pen tools and fill buckets.
Does she forget about the crap she says or she’s just that stupid?

No. 554238

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Pic related translates to: “my self proclaimed deadline is approaching and I’ve done basically nothing so here’s some quick and poorly made color keys to show you that if I’m not meeting my goals is just because I’m working ahead and so devoted to the project. I’m totally not fucking around wasting time over useless stuff, I’m late because of these three studies! I swear!”
We know how you move, you dumbass. You rarely make it into deadlines, and always find excuses and lie about how you work.
Sorry full pic incoming, but it’s new material so I’m not saging

No. 554241

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Full picture. Everything is so wonky and the perspective is so off. I understand that color keys just sets the atmosphere but she didn’t have to detail stuff and make it complicated. She somehow still can’t understands that She should work smart and focus on some basic shapes before adding details.

No. 554249

looks better without the character's face though

No. 554314

No one's arguing against using tools Holly, but it's like giving a beginner photoshop and they shade with the burn tool and highlight with the dodge tool because they don't know how to color. If you use shortcuts instead of learning how to do the thing the hard way you are lazy. If you don't have the knowledge to back up your tool and shortcut usage it'll be painfully obvious.

No. 554369

I mean, she could lean - hah- into it and make it a design choice if she was willing to work on it.

I really like the crooked backgrounds and faces in some of the Disney series like the Tangled and hotel Transylvania TV series, for example, skewed perspectives add s lot of character.

I mean obviously the designers of those started from knowing correct perspective and also how to skew things so they look good, neither of which Holly has yet. At the moment she seems to be trying to make it realistic and ending up slanting everything left. But just from a style pov, if she could be bothered, something like that might work for her story. But she still has to start by learning to do it right.

No. 554467

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I have a pitch document for purgatory for some reason? I have no clue what this is or how I got it. But this is my favourite section.

No. 554468

Art lean is such a beginners mistake though. I don't understand how Holly still hasn't gotten over it yet.

No. 554473

No. 554490

I don't, actually. I do like reading about her antics and looking at wonky art in this thread though.

No. 554501


Jfc how many sets is her "animation" going to take place in? and why is that middle panel curved lIke that?

You know if Holly was smart, she could actually easily get away with making those scenes the final illustrations for her course. but nah she's a dumb bitch. she emphasizes "hard work" on like all the wrong shit.

No. 554506

Pitch document? Post the rest of it please.

No. 554511

I'm not 100% sure, but I actually think the curved panel is for panning.

No. 554604

No clue where this doc came from. I'm not the owner, so I'm assuming Holly is. It was created August 2017 so my initial thought it is a Kickstarter thing is wrong…


No. 554622

Christ. Reading a document written by Holly just highlights how piss-poor her grammar is. I'm not sure if there's a correct sentence in this document. Her attempts at being "philosophical" or "highbrow" are so fucking laughable. She says she wrote Purgatory in high school, and it's obvious that she didn't actually put any thought into it at all. She rambles about the plot and her influences, but there's barely any substance to the plot at all? Like, you can't write a story that's a critique of religion in which religion heavily features without laying out the tenets of that religion? We all know Holly doesn't into worldbuilding because it's "a waste of time," but maybe a little bit of worldbuilding would make it easier to keep up with a project for more than the first chapter, you idiot.

Sorry for sperging but poor writing makes me so angry. The idea of a world where the major power is an occult/pagan "church" that functions in a similar way to Christianity in our world could be such an interesting thing to explore, but no, for Holly it has to be "bweeeeh religion baaaad hhhhhnnnn underage rape scene". No substance at all. I'm so angry.

No. 554625


My favorite part of the document is that almost half of it has nothing to do with her pitch. Instead it's anime recommendations, including a small block just about Evangelion.

No. 554649

That entire first paragraph is a run-on sentence

No. 554687

>Simon gets raped because rape is a result of religious extremism
>"I recommend sorta watching videos about the effects of Dante's inferno, not actually reading the long book"
Lmao, nice.

What I get from this is that Holly has a poor understanding of both philosophy and religion, and honestly that explains a lot.

No. 554690

Fuck, that part about why she wanted to include the rape part felt so half assed and awkward. She didn't even try to use different wordings so that it wouldn't come off so strong, but nope, she just went right in and said that she wanted to include the kid getting raped since it's a prominent aspect that surrounds catholic churches.

Christ, this just comes off as fujo shit so bad where alot of stupid yaoi plots are just the main guy getting raped and the love interest justifying it and shit.

Reading this document makes me sick, there's better ways to actually deal with these kinds of issues, don't just put it in as a plot device to mame the main character seem "uwu so vulnerable, must protect smol damaged bean" to fulfill your sick fujo fantasies

Sage for rant but I truly despise people like holly who are using fucking rape as a way to glorify the victim's trauma despite never having gone through such a life changing and degrading experience

No. 554691

No. 554698

What trauma though? He basically gets raped off screen and it hasn't been brought up in like 100 pages, there was no need for it in the first place. Rape is the worst cheap plot device especially in BL.

No. 554722

oh lord…I can't believe she's still doing storyboards…isnt school ending soon for summer break?

No. 554725

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This aint a comic book, girl…

No. 554727


> Purgatory is set in a city, similar to that of israel

> set in a city, similar to that of israel

> city

> israel

Fuck me, this reads like she thinks Israel is a city. Who does she think she is, Jake Paul?

No. 554738

Her online class probably runs in quarters rather than semesters. Most likely school doesn't end for her till June

No. 554746

Holy comma splice, Batman!

No. 554752

>Jarvis AI
Reference = Jokes, am I right?

No. 554764

I second this.

But pls holly from the bottom of my heart please continue purgatory, I think it’s a great, quirky, funny human look at religion and philosophy and just like you rewrote it in college you gotta rewrite it and grow with it now. Look into Alan Watts and Zen and Bhagavad Gita and Taoism, whatever man but there’s more stuff you could incorporate into the world building and the characters. Art isn’t about the fuckin thiccness of the paint itself that’s what digital art tells us. Find something that you love again and turn it into some real shit that others can love too bro

No. 554778


Uses a blow torch to make a microchip. Amazing.

No. 554860

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anon, if you really think holly is at all functionally literate after reading that google doc you really gotta get your own brain checked.

No. 554886

Israel is a country, Jerusalem is a city.

why is she so fucking stupid. bitch cna act like shes read up on religion and catholicism but doesn't even know that one of the main cities referenced in abrahamic texts is Jerusalem. Bitch, I'm an atheist and I know the difference.

No. 554905

Best quote: "Most storyboard artists doesn't do the backgrounds, like at all."
Take a guess why they don't, Holly.

Does she even know what a storyboard is ment to be?

No. 554909

I'm disproportionally annoyed at the fact that she called it "the holy city" instead of the Holy Land too lmao. If you're going to draw a story that heavily leans on Christianity, at least know the basics.

No. 555105


She needs to step all the way the fuck off the storyboarding shit acting like a know it all. Sage for the sperging but this is kind of my wheelhouse and between her professing to know what goes into storyboards and her mindless fans asking her for legitimate advice just makes my head spin. She. doesn't. know. shit. She doesn't even have the basics down.

No. 555120


it's funny because all she has to do with any thing she wants to jump into is just say she's learning. But she's a 'professional'. She's too proud to admit that she's new at anything.

No. 555191

>a great, quirky, funny human look at religion and philosophy

No offense anon but are you like, legitimately okay?

No. 555221

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That poor puppy…

No. 555253

Why does it feel like she's slowly becoming a pet hoarder… or just a hoarder in general

No. 555258


>slowly becoming

She's been one.

No. 555278

She probably thinks all German Shepards are well behaved, and end up complaining about it being a douche or pissing/biting stuff.
Or maybe she’s just in love with the aesthetic of GS… that would mean she’d either cut the ears or doesn’t know that’s not their “normal” shape and proceed to complain about people selling her a fake dog.

No. 555335

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this is wayyy nitpicky but her logo infuriates me, what the fuck.

60% of hollys work can be made better by simply drawing a guide but she's just too arrogant/lazy to do so. like at least her fuckugly style could have correct perspective

No. 555344

Yeah you know what, you hit the point. She keeps saying that if you don’t like her stuff it’s because you don’t like her art style, but that’s totally not true.
It’s not about style, it’s about inconsistencies and poorly made stuff. One can like a style or not but if you suck it shows and that’s a fact. She just can’t accept that she’s not the inhuman skilled artist she tells herself to be, and hides behind the style mask just like every 14yo kid approaching to animes.
If her things were actually thought, and planned and she would be a little more humble, we wouldn’t be as harsh.
I follow tons of people that I’m not really into style wise but I like to see them progress, and lots of non skilled artists overcoming their difficulties actually warm my heart. So I’m not saying that if you suck you must die, it’s her attitude that’s pissing people, because she’s always on her high horse when she doesn’t have any right to talk down to other people.

No. 555355


She thinks she can just kim jung gi this shit out of her asshole, while trash talking pros and meme her way to success with her sob stories and patreon paid software

also, get a fucking crack for the programs you dumbass holly, or better yet just animate on the many resources available until you reach a level that warrants spending big bucks. TV paint to her is what copics are to jazza and baylee

No. 555368

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at least the rubes didn't come through

No. 555371

Plus animating in photoshop is very easy and in my opinion a great sowtwear if you're okay with animating around 200 frames at a time since the program begins to slow down at that point.

Hell, when I'm not at school which supplies photoshop to us, I draw all my animations in paint tool Sai and test out the animation flow in a free program called drawpile until I can go back to school and transfer the frames over into photoshop.

If you have passion and a strong enough intent you don't need the top of the line tools to accomplish the projects you want. Why can't she just make do with the already useful tools she has? It's not like the more expensive the program the easier it is to cut corners, you still have to create a great animation to create a great animation.

If she can't make a good enough animation without all these tricks she can pull off in the program she wants to buy then maybe she should learn how to animate and story board some more instead of wasting cash

No. 555479

Photoshop is not a good program to do a final thesis in animation on.

I understand why Holly wants to use TVpaint but I'm also pretty sure she has access to Flash.

No. 555495

She could just contact Adobe support to get her issues with the software resolved, after all she pays for it every month.

No. 555499

She does, she confirmed she paid for the whole suite not long ago

No. 555568

You don't need TVpaint to make animation. Here's someone who animates in MS Paint. Not saying you need to go this cheap, but I think the program you use to compile the animation is more important than the program you animate on. And Holly already has Premiere Pro. Heck you can even animate on paper. Holly doesn't care about animating, she just wants some flashy result.

No. 555574

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This was on Spechies new video

No. 555624

What…Holly why do you feel the need to act like you are some sort of professional know it all in every field jfc. God I remember once in a video she mentioned ‘N’ sound is ‘silent’ in Japanese and I lost my mind. HOLLY BROWN, you do not know everything and you need to stop telling your teenage audience the first bullshit thing that comes to your head while acting like you have full knowledge of the subject fuuuuck. Sage for rage sperg

No. 555627

Ok i never heard of this youtuber before this thread but wtf. She is awful. I'm with Holly on this one. 1) You really shouldnt self-diagnose a mental illness. 2) teenagers/young adults are very prone to mental illness and suicidal thoughts.

No. 555698

Slightly OT but I tried to watch the video but I noped out after the first minute
>"I've never been officially diagnosed, but…"
>"If you're between 13 and 17 you're probably not depressed"
>tries to idiotsplain depression

Holly's response is pretty adequate.

No. 555705

Sage for ot but does this girl have her own thread? She seems like she would have a good amount of milk.

No. 555730

god spechie is the worst. hollys comment actually not terrible here

I don't think she has her own thread but I see people complain about her all the time. Sure she's a favorite in the yt artists thread

Also sage goes in email field jsyk

No. 555763

This girl pisses me off so much and seemed to be projecting the entire time. She feels sad sometimes and thinks that's depression. She was talking about depression from an outsider's perspective it was painfully obvious. I agree with Holly here.

No. 555822

brain damage

No. 555826

>if i ever become rich

So she's not making as much of Youtube as people think she does…

No. 555871


I am actually surprised she does not have a thread. I accidentally found her one day and I could not understand why she is so popular. I tried to watch a few videos but it only confused me more. She is an adult yet acts like an edgy 13 year old, and her art is very underwhelming. I thought maybe she gained popularity because her stories were interesting, but I found her stories to be too try-hard and they always made her come across as a spoiled brat.

I just chalked it up to me being too old to understand kids these days.

Back on topic:

I'm glad I found this thread. I don't think Holly Brown is necessarily a bad person or anything, but before I found lolcow I thought I was the only one that didn't understand her appeal. Her art is just so bad yet she has art tutorials that, for some reason, have a lot of views and likes. I am trying to get back into drawing after not doing it for years, and it always annoyed me how Holly Brown and other bad artists kept getting recommended to me in my Youtube feed. I feel like an ass when I say someone's art is bad; I know making art can be difficult. But I'm sorry, her art is just not good, at least not good enough for her to be making art tutorials.

No. 556009


You know what I noticed about her logo is that, when she thought SanJapan mis-capitalized her name, she actually does this exact same shit, written in her logo. She's literally Holly BRown. How embarrassing.

No. 556048

So that’s what was bothering me so much about it. Thank you for pointing it out!

No. 556061

People keep saying they want a thread on her (and solarsands), but no one wants to make one.

I just always took at it stylized all caps, but looking at the letters that makes no sense lmao.

No. 556066

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holy fuck
i'm all for spechie becoming a cow. BRowns comment makes me sad, she reminds me of an (actually good) friend of mine who is very similar personality type but just has been called out well enough to not be a dickhead. it gives me hope that she could grow up a bit, as much as i don't want the milk to dry up

No. 556184

>>>/snow/556178 Someone did a thread for spechie, enjoy!

No. 556196

kinda weird for her to be saying shit like this because I remember her once saying that people should be using the eraser tool instead of the undo button

No. 556214

No. 556233

Hold up there cowboy I never said it was a masterpiece, but art is subjective and I can say it's good b/c it is something that expresses her own personality and sense of humor well.

Some of yall need to take a step back and focus less on her technical fuck ups, and more on the attitude. Girl can really draw from her imagination with a passion. It's just that the content that she has to work from, what her brain has consumed is middle school level at best. I'm less perplexed by her shitty stick figures than I am by the fact she's seemingly stayed the same exact person, consuming the same shit since high school/college and hasn't grown or developed her artwork along with her personality.

No. 556252

Hopefully this is because she is growing as an artist and not because she is a hypocrite.

No. 556256

Anon, taste is subjective but beyond the technical skills her attitude is pretty bad too.

Also imo you can't really separate a comic from the technical aspects, writing, pacing, flow etc are important and if you can't convey your story properly it's a failed attempt. Most people express themselves in their comics but that doesn't make them good.

On the other hand, if she's genuinely gone through some rough shit as a child/teen when her being emotionally stunted is not that surprising, it's a common thing.

No. 556293

I absolutely will not focus less on any of this cow's fuckups, technical or otherwise. She's a shitty person who draws badly and has made a name for herself saying outrageous shit on youtube, and she's clearly demonstrated that any empathy on her is wasted.

No. 556378

I understand what you mean, but there are thousands upon thousands of artists that are drawing from the imagination with the same passion that don't act the way she does.

I & others would criticize her and her mistakes far less harshly if she didn't repeatedly refer to herself as a professional and put down the habits/methods of other artists. In the end, I'd still much rather see her grow and learn than fail, but as of right now she's directly influencing others in a bad way

No. 556492

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Drug dealing brother,she sure is open about her family. This is from Tumblr.

No. 556499

Didn't she lose thousands of dollars on useless equipment that she never uses now? There's your savings.

No. 556554

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No. 556584

Way to get your brother arrested

No. 556616

That actually sounds pretty fun.

No. 556711

The brother has more of an occupation than Holly. He might even do it to support the family too unlike this fat bitch buying """"professional""" art shit

No. 556730

She needs to quit wasting her time on useless shit like this when she could be doing those millions projects she has that have a unreasonably short deadline as it is. Its like she doesn't want to finish any of her projects at all

No. 556754

SOUNDS fun but in her case… She has what, 5 different projects already (comicbook, schoolwork, animation, regular merch making, updating youtube so she will stay in the buzz) and than THIS?

No. 556762


ok but in what world is being a white-trash drug dealer more of an occupation than a mediocre artist/youtuber?

No. 556777

I agree with this anon and, I think her attitude is complete shit and she needs to be criticized for what she spews to her audience, but if we criticize her every attempt at the technical stuff, she’ll probably give up b/c she has a fragile ego..
her horse drawing for example, I think it’s great that she tried to draw a horse and all, but we all saw how messed up that looked, I criticized her rushed work with the stylization because that’s something we all know she likes to do.. the critique about the anatomy was correct, but should she really do studies or just think some happy thoughts and clean her room for a change? I know from experience it’s tough to get anatomy correct when I don’t have any emotional investment in the stuff I make. Could be different for others I’m just trying to get a discussion going. Also I don’t think she could be totally illiterate if she follows the thread. Inb4 lol hi holly

No. 556791

Sorry, but no. I'm not here to encourage Holly, she has enough hugbox echo chambers set up for that. I don't like her. I don't like her art, which is technically and objectively bad, and I don't like her personality, which is likewise terrible. This isn't a fucking self-improvement forum. If she gets better at art and advice I'm not going to wish her ill or anything, but I don't think her prognosis for improvement is good.

>Inb4 lol hi holly

Give yourself a little more credit, anon, I could understand what you wrote.

No. 556799

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No. 556802

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Top art student here

No. 556805

It would be nice if she put time stamps to show how long she spent on each gesture, I can't tell if these are 1 minute poses or longer, I'm hoping 1 minute because if any longer then the faces should have more definition

No. 556845

probably the biggest and most awful reach i've ever seen

No. 556861

these aren't too bad, if they're 1min…but those hands are killing me and there's no weight on these

No. 556884

If they are 1min each she completely misunderstood the point of the exercise. At the 1 min mark gesture drawings are supposed to capture the general feel and gesture of the pose. Holly just jumped into adding nonsensical shading and junk to give her sketches the illusion of being ‘finished’

No. 556896

wtf is going on with the lady's leg on the bottom right. Looks like another arm crawling out of her body

No. 556907

These are fine if they’re 30 second or 1 minute warm ups. 1 minutes never look good unless you have a great handling of anatomy. They look like someone’s starting to get the hang of drawing quickly, that’s not saying a lot considering she’s drawn every single day for years.

No. 556909

these just demonstrate she's drawing from imagination half the time even when she has a model. it's a shame she's probably working off of photographs, i feel like it'd help her a great deal to actually be at an actual life drawing class. she doesn't seem to grasp the fact that people are 3D objects existing in a 3D space, she just adds some nonsensical shading with an outline?? for…?? why??

No. 556916

I’m sorry to be that person but if you want to be a professional (and you claim to be one) you don’t give a fuck about personal investment. You need to train your hand and brain, focus and study as much as you can.
If you want to pursue art as a career “inspiration” and “‘moods” do not exist, unless you know you can sell whatever you want because you have a pillow to save your ass every time you fall.
Art as a job, especially in the industry (since she’s not one of those fine artists she shits on or introspective people) is no different than any other job. Once you have the skills you can draw in every condition.
She has a fragile ego? Well then maybe she should learn that other people might have it too and act accordingly, I don’t want to cuddle her and shield her from what’s wrong in her art, that’s exactly what she wants, probably why she left a real college, and what her whole huge fanbase keep doing.

No. 556929

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Well think about it, drugs are more supply and demand business especially if they live in a white trash/hood area and now rebellious millennials wanting to embarrass weed in Texas. You can find a weed dealer that sells $20 per gram of good quality (if lucky I've seen dealers that charge more).
The demand for weed in red states that wouldn't give a slap on the wrist if you get caught with it would drive a higher price. It's not a safe job but if you know what you are doing you can make $2000-$3000 a night which is more than Holly can make by doing art videos or selling ugly merch. Not a safe or desirable job, but people do drug dealing when they hit a low point and seen a good chunk come out of it.
From what we know of Holly has bought a washing machine for the family and that's it. The brother for all we know might actually be trying to helping out. In a broke as the family its better that your symbiotic relationship should be mutualism not parasitic.

sage for drug lecture no one cares about

No. 557007

>drug dealing is good because it's profitable

Lol pls stop anon. There are several artists on this thread who essentially do the same thing Holly does, draw for money and spend money on art supplies. The problem is that she's careless with money, not that she makes money from her art. Dealing drugs and facilitating someone's addiction will never be better than what Holly is doing.

No. 557025

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No. 557026

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I really dont like it when I agree with Holly

No. 557080

Oh my fucking god lmao, I know people get desperate to trash flakes here but let's not pretend that being a drug dealer is a respectable career or better than being a YouTuber, or that her brother must contribute more to the family because he doesn't shitpost online (that we know of).

I agree with her but Holly is not the person I'd ask for advice on how to deal with depression either lmao. I wish people would stop thinking because they have large followings and experienced a Thing, they're qualified to give people advice on how to deal with The Thing.

No. 557088

The serotonin/ chemical imbalance theory has yet to be proven and a heck ton of evidence points toward the drugs actually increasing survival thoughts but Holly’s certified depressed so I guess I’ll just fuck off~

No. 557089

*suicidal thoughts

No. 557131

It depends on the person and the medication. Lets not make this a thread about mental illness, this is about holly calling out spechie and rightfully so lmfao

No. 557136

I agree with her
But I find it ironic because if I remember correctly, Holly IS the kind of person that sorta utilizes the "just dont be sad" tactic or at the very least she does the "just bulldoze through negative feelings by upping my ego" tactic.
I always figured thats why she goes through those cycles of being overly optimistic, reckless, then loudly despressed.

No. 557140


Also this is Holly's reply to Spechie?

No. 557191

Holly is drawing what she sees which is fine but if she wants to get the kind of job in animation that she thinks she deserves Holly's going to have to push herself.
I hope that Holly does some actual studying instead of this kind of rushing through of these assignments. She's really missing the elements of life drawing by not paying attention to the model.

No. 557433

>The problem is that she's careless with money, not that she makes money from her art.

If we are to believe what Holly said in >>556492
then it sounds like Holly is the one supporting her family. So there's no way she's rolling in cash if her family is bleeding her dry

I don't like Holly as a person but I have seen how toxic families work

No. 557450

Well her mother is a teacher so she's not the only one earning an income. I think she's never had money before and doesn't know how to manage it so spends it carelessly on things she doesn't need.

No. 557453

I don't know her situation but she did make it sound like a lot of her family expenses were voluntary on her part, and she also bought thousands worth of printing/merch making equipment. Not saying her family isn't toxic because she probably wouldn't be the way she is if she grew up in a healthy, stable environment, but she's definitely bad at managing her finances.

No. 557463

She could be living in a toxic env, but from what she’s always claimed, she paid for her own food (like it she wanted takeaway) and other expenses that were her own. She bought the washer and dryer but it’s something she uses as well, so it’s not a total selfless act. She always seemed pretty fond of her “mom”, only despising her brother and sister. I know they ask her for money but she’s not forced to give stuff to people. Seriously, toxic or not, just doubt how many thousands she tossed around in the last months for useless stuff.

No. 557470


Her bio mom or her aunt?

No. 557528

Family comes first not the mortality of addicts sadly.
Never said it was a respectable job but a very risky outlet to make ends meet. Honestly, both Holly and her brother should be working part-time jobs to help a family crisis instead of choosing two bad "careers". So I have strong doubts that a shitty artist youtuber selling potatoes faced merch can make enough money to support her dysfunctional family when she openly said that she makes less than minimum wage.

No. 557534

Her aunt

No. 557546

>So I have strong doubts that a shitty artist youtuber selling potatoes faced merch can make enough money to support her dysfunctional family when she openly said that she makes less than minimum wage.

does anyone actually have any proof of how much she makes? how is it that she can buy expensive art/craft equipment and have a savings account for her family to blow through if she's making less than minimum wage?

No. 557548

I think there are a few people here in denial about how much cash Holly makes off her merch sales and YTbucks.
I heard er say 50k a year. That's a lot of spending money for someone who still lives with their parents.

Holly also complains about how "poor" she is but I don't really think she knows what that means. Holly seems to think not being able to buy whatever you want whenever you want = poor

No. 557583


People who grow up without money often don't have the skills to spend it properly as adults. Considering her personality, backstory, and abilities (primarily spelling), I have no doubt she grew up white-trash levels of income. Now, any money she gets, she can't save it, and instead splurges. Its a common thing for low-income children to grow up with terrible spending habits as adults.

No. 557593

I think she was making that before the youtube demonetization thing and when she was at peak popularity (her vids don't do too great now).

If all she has to buy is food and rent to a parent there is tons of room to blow cash. It's not like she'd pay for internet, gas, utilities, insurance, etc. And when you don't have to worry about that stuff, there is little incentive to save.

No. 557638

But I thought she wanted to move to California in the next year or so? Gonna have to save a shit ton if she's gonna live by herself there

No. 557705

Even if she makes less than minimum wage Holly really doesn't have any expenses she needs to worry about because she still lives with her aunt who pays for most of her day to day expenses. Also, Holly doesn't seem to splurge a lot on non art related purchases like many other youtubers so I am not surprised that she can afford all these big art purchases?

No. 557707

Honestly doubt the California move is going to happen. Between her senior thesis and preparation for conventions I feel like Holly is going to burn out way before she's even close to saving up enough to move to Cali.

No. 557779

She's live right now

No. 557793

hmm. sorry to tell you guys, even though i hate her fujo art, there's something pleasant about her voice/manner

No. 557794

nah i agree honestly

No. 557801

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Ready for her tutorials?

No. 557802

I’m sure Holly has the capacity to be pleasant but she comes off as someone hard to work with. I’m gonna have to disagree.

No. 557806

>open link
>Holly talking about white ethnostate

No. 557809

lmao someone go ask her to do the compass live

No. 557810

are you the person spamming it in the chat? lol

No. 557812

i think i got banned, someone should ask her to do it, it would be entertaining

No. 557813

Guys, don't be retarded and out yourselves and others as farmers in stream chat.

No. 557824

if any of you are that "YU" person in her chat, you sound fucking autistic

No. 557833

well i'm not in the industry. I was listening as I would to a radio host. She was quite jolly at the start of the stream but… I tuned in again and now she's being passive aggressive and struggling not to slip into an angry vibe

No. 557834

been watching for 10 mins now and she's done fuck all. i dont even think ive seen her draw even one line

No. 557838

Yeah she's engaging too much with stream chat and not focusing at all. She might as well just be doing a podcast for most of this.

No. 557851

It's kinda weird watching the stream because she says "Holly kill yourself" out loud sometimes.
(This is my first time seeing her stream, sorry if this isn't new. This is is saged just in case.)

No. 557857

what do you mean, is she reading that from the chat or is she saying it when she stuffs up

No. 557858

so many mouth noises

No. 557860

right when I went in she was complaining about doing it wrong and everyone will be mad at you and you will want to kill yourself.. OK holly so serious

No. 557862

She says that after she messes up or something similar to that. No one in chat is saying that.

No. 557871

The chat is clamoring for gayest porn

No. 557895


>talks about the problem with equating zootopia with people is that you're dividing races into 'predator' and 'prey'

>did exactly that when drawing black Nick

>vaguely accuses writer of zootopia of racism/prejudice or "what kinda views was he harbouring, ya know? to write the movie like that"

No. 557902


wtf she's going on about how characters falling out with eachother/character conflicts are a character trope… no, it's a compication. ya know, the thing that makes up the body of a majority of stories and then there's a resolution at the end. That's like how 99% of stories play out.

you'd know that holly, if you were a good story teller at all.

No. 557931

Holly of course had to shit on jaidensanimation and correct professional works because apparently the sclera/iris proportion in star vs the forces of evil is wrong and lots of white in your eye makes you look less creepy

No. 557932

>"When you adult in real life you don't have friends"
Why does she always speaks for everyone as if everyone experiences the same exact thing she does

No. 557934

1 she doesn’t have a life in real life
2 chances are she never had friends

No. 557939

Lol well ofc Holly's version was better, that's why her work is on TV and she has studio deals and… Oh wait.

No. 557943

I also think her voice is pleasant to listen to, it's honestly the only reason her content is even watchable imo. But the things she says kinda ruin it.

No. 557949

She has no idea what being an adult is like, most working adults I know have friends, either friends they made in college, friends from work or people you meet at events. I'm sure she'll go to all of these cons and not make friends with anyone.

No. 557973

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As a student who has done storyboarding, that doesn't seem like an overload of work for one day….And illustrations? What? That's why it's taking her so fucking long lmao

No. 557975

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Pro artist, guys!

No. 557982

those sandals kek

No. 557993

>most working adults I know have friends, either friends they made in college, friends from work or people you meet at events.

I dunno. I find it a lot harder to make friends as an adult than I did as a teen, so I understand what she saying. Many of my college friends moved to different states after they got jobs or got married. Holly works from home so who is she gonna talk to? People you meet at cons and stuff are acquaintances as best cuz it's not like you're going to see these people on a daily basis.

No. 557995

You don’t need to see people every day to be friends with them, dude.

No. 558003

Of course not. My point is that someone who you meet up with once or twice a year at a con isn't really a friend. It's more of an acquaintance.

No. 558117

It is definitely harder to make friends as an adult than it is when you're in high school, but the notion that everyone over the age of 21 is just rotting in their room with no friends is pretty ridiculous. Adult friendships are just more work, and maybe you don't see people as often, but it's definitely not normal to have no friends. Her saying that she hasn't spoken to a human being outside her family in weeks and trying to pass it off like a common thing is just??

No. 558126

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You guys forgot this beautiful gem. Holly fixed his eyes.

No. 558128

I'm guessing "Ham" is her Hamilton animatic? What a waste of time, she should be practicing actual animation instead of drawing more still frames.

No. 558135

maybe it's just steamed ham days.

No. 558174

I can't settle down to go to sleep after reading this I'm just chortling away thinking about Holly slaving away over steamed ham thanks anon

saged for zero contribution

No. 558341

I think it might be Hamilton illustrations for that art book she wants to sell at concentions. Its completely unnecessary

No. 558408

Is Hamilton even still a thing? Who even wants an enormous chin version anyway?

No. 558414

What does te CC stand for?

No. 558421

Rejection Emails went out for that FMA zine she applied for. I know if I got one,, she definitely did lol. Also I think she wouldnt talked about it by now if she got accepted.

>> 558414

Clever Kitchen? That's all I can think of, maybe she forgot kitchen starts with K because its alliterative?

No. 558426

That's what I thought too but it made no sense. What else could it be though.

No. 558477

What channel does she stream on? I never see these streams on her main channel

No. 558570

That’s what I thought too but she does spell out Clever Kitchen correctly later on in the calendar. Also if she really wants to be done with storyboards by the end of the month I feel like she needs to work every day on them cansidering the amount to pointless details she puts in them?

No. 558606

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Oh man…Anyone want an art book filled with wonky anatomy and ugly faces?

No. 558608

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Why you gotta break everyone's legs though???

No. 558617

Why… Is his leg… So fucking tiny… This is a grown man, why was he given baby legs. Also I don't know what's going on with that foot but it's nothing good.

No. 558629

this is the most reasonable chin she's ever drawn.

No. 558631

it looks…too good to be true lol

No. 558639

No cowboy chinbop?

No. 558714

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I just dont get this print. Is he climbing the fence? Why would i buy a print of a characrters back and a broken leg?

No. 558715

Boy what’s going on with his arms and that fence

No. 558716

it's ART you don't understand.

No. 558718

That arm looks really painful. Snapped right in half, poor guy

No. 558720

Faye looks like she's slumped over dead.

No. 558721

Oh my god the arms… fences don't work like that–arms don't work like that!! And why the fuck is there a visible thong/panty on the other character…it it male or female? Probably underage. I know she's done some shit, but this drawing still baffles and triggers me in so many levels omfg

No. 558726

Is this the final priint? It looks unfinished…

No. 558733

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Just as a reference, here's what the character on the right is actually supposed to look like.

No. 558738

why are the images cut on the border?

No. 558746

omg i didnt even notice that. that's just sloppy af

No. 558750

thanks for fucking me up anon, she actually said it's WIP. Still, there are fundamental problems. in fact it's the awkward moment when the person you're teasing for a 'retarded walk' turns around and is actually retarded- i have said before that holly can't follow physical logic, but i thought she was probably just lazy. Now we have arms going right through a fence like some mc escher impossible drawing lol. The hiding the hands is too obvious so far

No. 558755

WTF is wrong with Faye? She looks like a scarecrow.
The whole pose doesn't work, the fence is wrong AF and if you're going to represent characters from behind it has to be for strict and powerful symbolism or special effects, holly.
It's even okay that you are refusing on drawing what's popular because you're obviously the only one who likes "old" cartoons (CBebop is not even that old, btw) but at least make it appealing.
You chose to picture two characters, one of them has a strong sex appeal and would be an easy buy for random teenagers that only ask for 2d cleavage and a nice face but NO of course let's break her spine and give her a flat ass.
I would NEVER buy a print like this.

No. 558789

Lol i forgot to mention its a wip but i figured you could tell with the fence not being colored in. Wtf is up with his pose?? Why does she always draw shoes like that?? So many questions.

No. 558794

Isn't Holly supposed to be a illustration major? How did she get this far in her illustration program if she can't even set up a basic scene? Like not only can't you even tell what is supposed to be happening in the picture but the picture itself is so boring/generic that I don't know anyone who would want to buy a print.

No. 558795

This is beyond terrible
his hair is too flat, his arms are cut and go through the fence
wtf is that leg?
why does she make that stupid tiny heel on every shoe?
Faye looks like a little girl with no ass
So sloppy fml

No. 558804

Ugh, why does she always draw heels on the shoes of the males she draws?!

No. 558830

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Tbf spike DOES have “heels”. Pretty much every kind of shoe that’s not totally flat (à la converse) has some sort of heel, they just have different shapes and heights so sometimes it’s almost unnoticeable.
So it’s just Holly that for the 100000 time failed to understand how shoes work.

No. 558843

>>558714 dem legs on faye though

No. 558878

This is a terrible composition, i have no idea what's going on. Faye has a nice body and holly managed to draw her at the most unappealing angle amazing.

No. 558897

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Friendly reminder that this monstrosity came out at the same time she “lectured” people about bad anatomy and all the mistakes “young artists” do. The monster hand, those ridiculous titties…

No. 558919

She is so arrogant, her color theory video pissed a lot of people off.

No. 558933

personally LOVING faye's shorts and the way they billow out in that trademark Holly BRown style lmao.

No. 558976

The way that it's cut makes me itchy.

I seriously think this is the worst-looking thing she's drawn recently, it's just so broken lmao. I thought she might at least fix some things from the sketch, but I guess if you put down a mark that's it, no changes.

No. 559182

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i wonder how this would go…

No. 559184

For the love of god Holly, stop taking on new projects when you've barely scratched the surface of your current ones.

No. 559272

how many projects has she started??? i feel like it’s a new thing everyday

No. 559442

Oh my god when will she ever focus on one thing at a time??

No. 559467

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jk, she made an adjustment and added more colors…Wow, I wish I had all that extra time she has

No. 559477

At least she's not in the zine this time. I kinda like to think that she was rejected from the FMA zine so like a petulant child she stomps her foot and goes, "Fine!! I'll make my own zine and you guys can't join!!"

Little does she know that organizing a zine requires good organizational skills as well as professionalism, neither of which she has any of.

It does sound fun though, might take a crack at it even if I don't get in to her zine.

Question, do you think anyone at a higher skill level than she is would join? I'm not entirely sure how zines work but if they get paid per zine sold there might be a few. Would…Holly be paying them? Forgive my lack of zine knowledge, I've never participates in one.

No. 559501

I mean there's quite of a few of her fans that are better at art than she is (idk why they follow such a toxic person, but each to their own). And ya know, anon. You may be onto something about her rejection thing lol.

No. 559508

I hate that she can't fix her hair, all you need is a wide tooth comb (for the shower) and some type of gel/cream

No. 559551

would it be bad to join her zine, if she actually makes it? I’m not a fan of hers, but I would do anything 4 exposure. (Saged b/c ofc)

No. 559596

Anon, no amount of exposure is worth putting up working with her. Don't do that to yourself

No. 559646

If you're gonna sage, then actually sage and instead of just writing it.

No. 559647

>supplying payment via books
So people are only gonna get paid by receiving printed versions of the own art they made? That's barely a step up from working for exposure. Why even open it up if she can't pay the artists actual money?

No. 559674

This would only be acceptable if this were a charity zine. Otherwise, complete bullshit

No. 559736

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I gotta admit the bunny one would look cute, if the bunny didnt look like it would wanna murder you. Also, this comic has like what…2 chapters??? What's with all the merch

No. 559753

Why did she pick those specific things for her characters to be with on these phone charms? Nobody knows enough abt the characters to get the significance!

No. 559754


…Is that… is that a wolf pig? Pig wolf? A polf?

No. 559773

i dont understand why he's sitting on a computer. is he supposed to be a hacker..? Did he even get introduced into the comic?

No. 559784

lopsided charms. goody. I'm sure those'll sell like hotcakes.

pretty sure she did the same thing regarding the YouTube artist collective, it was zodiac themed and she shit on the group just bc she wasnt in it, then proceeded to ramble about how stupid astrology was and that she "never wanted to be in their stupid group anyways"…while she painted her fuckin astrology symbol lmao. so yeah she is being a petulant child here.


These are some puke ass colors. yknow what. go ahead and make another project, Holly BRown. can't wait to see you manage a billion email submissions, judging the art, managing artists, the printing of the book and the distribution of the money!

No. 559788

linking into the wrong thread.
wew lad, u nu here?

No. 559794


It looks like she covered it in a pink overlay filter

No. 559802

That character was never actually introduced in the comic yet but he seems to be a ‘fan favorite’.
Still, I’m kinda glad Holly is actually starting to work on convention merch instead of just screwing around with other projects.

No. 559813

Why is there a no transmission screen if te tv is linked to a pc? Wouldn’t it be better a blue screen? I find this quite confusing
Yeah it was my first thought as well. The timing is perfect.
Poor thing doesn’t know that organising projects with lots of artists take more time than working solo and that the responsibility of checking wips, advertising campaign, proper graphics and stuff require A LOT of times. I’ve personally seen people dropping the participation on a zine (so “just” doing the illustration and avatar) because they had strict deadlines with school and/or work, and yet she decides to push the ORGANIZATION of a fanzine between her pilot episode of CK, an Hamilton book, paranormal plague, purgatory, con merch, YouTube and countless new projects?
Lol so delusional. It will either never sail or fail miserably.
Just accept you got rejected for the fucking zine, Holly.

No. 559837

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anything to keep from paying people actual money, eh holly?

No. 559840


Firstly a zine shouldn’t be a heavy book. Secondly, get a EU distributor - plenty of people would be willing to help out on a zine I’m sure, and I’ve seen a lot of people do it this way.
Also when books open for order then charge international shipping?? Like the costs can be covered. She’s either trying to scam people or she’s just thick as pig shit.

No. 559841

Not to defend her but she’s probably just dense.

No. 559842

So she says that the contributors get the copies that they can sell and this will be their payment?
In other words: the contributors MUST be the distributors in order to get their money?

Or am i just tinfoiling?

No. 559844

That color palette looks really gross in comparison, the last few hues clash so badly.

I don't think she knows. She probably plans on printing them all at home again instead of doing the reasonable thing and getting a distributor.

No. 559849

I'm laughing. She says this like she somehow knows she's going to receive, and use, a slew of illustrations–whether they be of quality or amateurish at best because let's face it, she's an absolute horrible judge of quality art.

No. 559850

That’s not true, she can be really picky and harsh when it comes to other people. She somehow fails to be that harsh and evolve on her own art, but she bashed professionals, she’s not going to accept stuff that’s not on par with her level, and to her, her level is really high.
If some people would make the same mistakes as her, she would just discard their applications, I’m pretty sure of that.

No. 559851

You are correct anon, I agree with this wholeheartedly.

No. 559858

A did a zine with other local artists in my area and that was how they did it too. Now I have a bunch of copies of a zine I honestly wouldn't even buy myself so I'm stuck with them.

No. 559862

That system is only beneficial to those who already have a huge following that would buy everything they creates but don’t have time to provide a full book of illustrations, otherwise it’s just a waste of time unless you’re participating with -again- big names and that would give you some sort of… rimlight? In hope of people noticing you and going to your social media

No. 559866

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No. 559870

Idk what's normal but whenever I did zines with people we split the profits. Unless it's specifically for charity, where would she even donate it to that's remotely related?

No. 559871

Charity zines doesn’t HAVE to be related. It’s a nice touch and what it’s usually best to sebsibilise people about a matter, but what counts it’s ultimately giving money to x.

No. 559881

I can see that, but which social causes has Holly ever expressed interest in? Not saying it would be a bad thing if she made the zine and donated proceeds, but I find it hard to picture.

No. 559886

Lel, charity to the poor Holly BRown, of course.
I don’t know maybe she could give for something she’s experienced, like help lines for depression or stuff?

No. 559889


No. 559907

PP has like 9 pages, not 2 chapters so this is even more puzzling.

No. 559918

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Sorry this is old, but it really made me laugh. Yes I can see how she could pass as a troll channel, especially considering that in a video talking about color theory she fucked her colors so bad she had to adjust them in premiere making her arm look ORANGE
Yeah but you’re supposed to love PP because she says it’s great. It works with her fans, so she will maybe sell a couple or charms at the con.

No. 560170

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No. 560175

>Boku Hero No Academia
Can Holly type anything without a typo or some sort of misspelling? I would think this is all an elaborate troll if she were not so unattentive.

No. 560180


I hope this fucking bombs and die to Holly’s lack of organization knowledge and how to equally pay contributors, I hope she gets blacklisted and wrecked by the fandom.

No. 560181

Those colors are not good; and do we need the BNHA zine #634?

No. 560182

This may sound stupid but did she draw that header? It seems much better than her normal work.

No. 560183

1 minute after I post this Holly fixes it.
She definitely browses here.

No. 560184

Fuck no.

No. 560186

I was going to say, I would actually consider buying prints if she drew stuff like that.

No. 560191

So…who did? Is it official art that she recolored? I don't see any credit anywhere.

No. 560195

I mean Holly isn't above not sourcing work as seen by the april fools video.

No. 560196

it looks like official art she recolored in her "designated color pallet"

No. 560198

I wonder how many people will actually apply to be a part of this zine.

No. 560203

She want it printed by june, or before. Fanzines normally give you way more time to do your piece.

No. 560205

People have lives, Holly

No. 560214

How could she know? She doesn’t have one and she’s fine with it. If you want to join her zine, you need to prove you can focus on that one thing only!

No. 560216

Why is she using hex codes for a printed zine?

No. 560219

>>we have standards
Good thing you’re CREATING it, then, because that’s exactly why you’ve been rejected from the FMA one
>>I’ve printed lots of books so I know formatting
All of her stuff is badly cropped and formatted

The zine video is even worse than usual.

No. 560224

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No. 560227

File: 1524171259335.jpg (218.63 KB, 1024x745, Gj0fG27.jpg)

Also she's misspelled "palette" in every possible instance of the word. This is the "pallet" she's referring to. But of course such an advanced, esteemed artist would never make such a mistake….

No. 560231

File: 1524171774032.png (44.48 KB, 717x437, ohholly.png)

Oh Holly

No. 560238

Has Holly been losing subscribers? I thought she had more than 215k? Also her views seem way down

No. 560244

She hasn't been uploading as much so it's not surprising. Also, I have noticed the videos she does upload haven't been recommended as much to me lately.

No. 560250

She’s the one saying people can’t spell

No. 560263

This'll probably fail like the last anthology she tried to host

No. 560293

im gonna fucking kill holly if she touches erasermic and ruins it, i love that pairing

No. 560323

I love how Holly starts like five new projects every time I don't check the thread for a week or so. gj Holly if only you put as much effort into your art as you do coming up with all these projects

No. 560333

Take a shot whenever Holly posts something misspelled or grammatically incorrect.
-Another shot if she uses the right sounding word but it's not the same meaning (e.g. Pallet v. Palette)

No. 560341

No. 560370

Welp. Let's see how this goes I guess. Will she just accept people with a ton of notes/followers or will she accept even non-well know artists with good art?
Time will tell.

No. 560372

The fact that she didn't even draw her header and this image is hilarious. Shows how professional she is, especially with money involved.

No. 560378

Why she gotta fucking ruin everything I like? She’s only in the fandom (not even that) because it’s popular. Her art of the kids makes me wanna puke bc it’s so bad. I’ve seen bad art on the fandom before but hers is just so uncomfortable to look at. I hope she gets over this like she did SU, because I don’t think she truly likes the content so much as she just wants to profit off its popularity

No. 560516

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She really doesnt want to go outside does she…

No. 560517

File: 1524198741438.gif (323.59 KB, 314x240, GAZELLE.gif)

I didn't even know they sold this thing anymore, lmao. Just get a fucking eliptical Holly.

No. 560518

Did she really just say "or Boku no Hero Academia if you're annoying"?? Wtf bitch thats what its called in its native tongue you snaggle-toothed goblin

No. 560522

This is the snake-oil of fitness equipments.
But i might be wrong… i'm not a pro like her.

No. 560525

She could, you know, go outside or find a group of people to workout with lol

No. 560534

can't wait for Holly to give us a sick fitness tutorial with her new gazelle!

No. 560549

No, unfortunately it really is zeen. It makes sense given the origins but it's still somehow irritating

No. 560556


Damn I felt stupid and deleted my response before I saw yours. Sorry bout that.

Is anyone else pumped for the zeeeeen? I can’t wait to see what Holly thinks is good enough to put her name to when it’s not her own work. She’s so damn critical and doesn’t play well with others. I have a feeling this is going to be delicious.

Current list of her projects:

>Purgatory comic

>Paranormal comic
>Animatics (Hamilton)
>Clever Kitchen animation
>School work
>Convention prep
>YouTube videos

Am I missing anything? She’s also trying to lose weight, put together illustrations for her portfolio, and girl needs to sort her room out cause it’s a cluster fuck.

No. 560566

From the tumblr she's said it has gotten 187 applications and the maz number of artists is 150-200 so…. First of all, 150 is way too many, most zine dont have more than 50. Second of all, in my experience, only about 10% of applications have good enough art to even consider, so either she should lower the number or have a zine full of ugly art.

No. 560568

I wonder how many people will apply. not out of interest of working on a project for holly, but for the possibly of getting some publicity

No. 560600

she had a post on her insta 'guess my kink based on my art' and she delet it right after someone (?) post 'pedofilia'

No. 560603

Pfft aha, wish there was a screenshot

No. 560608

Why though, lmao. Go for a run. Exercise using your own bodyweight. JFC, not every problem is solved by buying shit. It's always such gimmicky shit too.

No. 560609

150 seems more like an artbook, not a zine.

Proof or it didn't happen anon

No. 560624

File: 1524212575793.jpg (8.79 KB, 400x408, 1429422088128.jpg)

And for years I thought the elliptical was the worst cardio machine in the world.
>no resistance
>just flawing your legs with no glute or core activation
>looks like something uses to aid physical therapy for the elderly
>too fat and lazy to go outside or buy a treadmill or static bike
>There are $10 monthly gym memberships that open 24/7
I'm starting to think a lot of female artists are pretty stupid with sports medicine

No. 560627

I'm so broke boohooh

No. 560656

I believe she also wanted to have a Hamilton zine for the con as well. Not a fanzine, just a small art book.

No. 560734


I saw the kink post too. It had a picture of her blonde character listening to music, her green haired character with his hair flying around, and that picture of a guy with claws punching another guy. I didn’t see the comments but the post really is deleted now.

No. 560776

This also bothered me more than it maybe should have lmao, it's not even like the original title is barely used in the West like FMA.

I think her method of compensation seems fair though.

No. 560780

It did to me too. Like, why would you call someone who uses the actual name term, "annoying"? For me it's actually annoying hearing people call it the translated name somehow, I guess because it's shorter and easier? Quicker? Not sure. But it's irritating nonetheless.

No. 560871

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wtf is she in kindergarten

No. 560881

What the fuck, she shouldn’t be THAT heavy handed

No. 560930

Im really heavy handed too but theres fucking techniques and tricks you do to not damage the paper. She's being stupid if she still hasn't learned how not to ruin her papers.

No. 560949

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I can imagine all the complaining and then not touching that program for a year

No. 560969

lol it's a functional work program, was she expecting a hologram on microchip delivered by drone

No. 560972


place your bets now for how long you think she's gonna use this. A month? a week? I'm gonna say a week, but not before she starts pumping out shitty tutorials then shits on it then the disc ends up getting eaten by one of the sentient piles of trash in her room.

No. 560974

Did she even make the goal or did she have to pony up most of the cash herself to get this?

No. 560988

She made nowhere near the goal. IIRC she found a bunch of money in her paypal she forgot was there? Or something? Kinda fucked up cause she probably could have afforded it before donations and those fans donated for no reason. I don't think she's intentionally trying to scam people, but I would feel scammed if I donated to her.

No. 561016


I thought she was broke. What a fucking moron, all she needed was Flash. Moron.

No. 561043

My bet is "after installing".
I mean she already has negative attitude towards it.

next time sage it if it's not milk.

No. 561081


Wow what a greaseball.

No. 561225

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This is what happens when you dont read, Holly.

No. 561229

same anon, but idk why she's so surprised when it literally says that on their website

No. 561232


Oh boy… the complains are coming in and she JUST installed it!

No. 561240

Small question lads, how well do you think she'll do at sanjapan? Considering she has a sizeable audience, do you think all the shitty kids that kiss her ass are gonna show up and clean her out? or will she crash from her lack of real prep?

No. 561247

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Her comment from TheReportOfTheWeek reacting to fan art video…

No. 561261

SanJapan is a pretty big convention so she'll surely make some sales, but with the amount of money she's spent on "prepping" for con season I'm pretty sure she wont make actual profit. Her art isnt stunnig enough to draw people in. My guess is she'll sell a lot to fans and some guests. Probably make around 1-2k in sales but again, profit is another story.

No. 561284

I'll give her two weeks before she posts a video shit talking TVpaint and then goes back to her old program (like she did before she stopped using her cintiq).
As for tutorials, I think she'll post one or two basically repeating the advice already out there for the program and that she'll post a unboxing video/first use video as soon as she can to show off her new toy.

No. 561285

Predicting deformed man in a blocky, stiff suit eating overly detailed food with broken hands

No. 561286

She is 'broke' but since she lives with her mother that doesn't mean too much. Honestly Holly should have set aside this money for her 'move to California' if that's still happening.

No. 561288

I honestly doubt anybody will buy her stuff aside from a handful of her followers. From what I have seen in cons, amateur art is only forgivable as long as the seller is a generally nice/interesting person. Also, if Holly is going to go thru with her 'large prints' only plan I doubt casual onlookers will want to pick something up from her shop when there are hundreds of other places selling cheaper (and probably better drawn) items.

No. 561293

1-2k is a pretty generous prediction even for that type of con. I see people more skilled than she is make less than that at some of the larger conventions. I honestly don't see her making much profit considering all the money she blew on prep.

No. 561295


There's also a high chance she'll get shitty placement and therefore little to no traffic. that can kill even the best laid plans and the best artists at any con.

No. 561301

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Whoever said that this is probably the reason why Holly splurges so much, is now confirmed

No. 561302

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Hi, Holly

No. 561304

File: 1524298155099.png (65.83 KB, 1178x258, Screen Shot 2018-04-21 at 01.0…)

oh boy…

No. 561310


Implying a sugardaddy would take a second look at her

No. 561326


So she's doing the printing herself,taking the costs of that, instead of forwarding funds to a professional printing service? I feel bad for whoever's going to be submitting art to her then, it's going to come out so wonky.

If she just "wants to make a zine" then why is she so hell bent on printing it herself other than for the glory of being able to say "HA! I made this from scratch and all these great artists are in my corner, eat shit, FMA zine!"

Like, she always finds the most difficult path and walks it with no map. You can run a store for 4 years and still not know what the fuck you're doing with your money, your time, and your resources. That much has been proven with her.

No. 561327

…She can't even finish her own damn projects, so remind me again why I or any other artist should trust her with my hard work?

No. 561334

She said that she pre-calculates the cost of the zeen based on printing cost of her own prints. Which is semi-wise given that she has a plan and all… but this is a backwards logic again.
Because first you optimize the pagecount (printcost, format, which size sells better etc) and then go to find artists.

No. 561336

I’m sorry I sound like a broken record but I grew up in a condition that’s pretty close to Holly’s. Single mother caring for three children, plus rent and bills PLUS legal expenses.
We weren’t allowed to luxury and I get what she’s saying but that’s no excuse for how much she splurges. I had hand me downs for church or my sister, never had toys, could only afford paper and pen to draw and every other thing was considered luxury. No proper health treatment, no dentist either. So yeah I understand that growing up poor is sad and hard, I know that, but she’s not alone in this and some of her points are quite meh to me.
>>Food is bland because spices are expensive
I mean what? I understand that canned food is not the best but the only “spice” you really need is salt, and that’s in no way expensive. Most probably her mom and siblings and even her don’t know how to cook and rely only on the strong taste of spices to “taste” the food. As I said, we were on a really low income, but my mom’s cooking was never bland. She found ways to make everything kind of good. Repetitive, sure, because it’s basically the same food all the fucking time, but the food being ugly it’s just a matter of how you cook it and distribute what you have at your disposal.
Growing up in that condition I’ve learned that you need to avoid staining your clothes and you need to treat your stuff properly, because it’s the only thing you’ll have.
So unless it’s sonething uncontrollable, “stained clothes” are just a sign of her never giving a fuck about her stuff. Unless they were stained from the get go but you usually check clothes before accepting them in church. And if you take care of the stains as soon as you can they’re barely visible, and you can anyway find way to “cover” what is wrong with your clothes. Personal experience, again. Sorry for the blog post but I seriously don’t like when people “justify” her actions or the way she trashed money because she grew up poor.
I knew I couldn’t afford the basics so every cent I gained, it was a saving for things I needed or wanted. But again if I wanted/want something I check so many times if it’s really worth it because something in my mind is telling me that there could be some medical expenses, or things that I really NEED in the future. So no, it’s a matter of character and predisposition. Growing up poor don’t make you an uneducated money tosser, it’s her fault.
Again I’m sorry, I don’t want to sound like a bitch but that’s really not the situation fault, it’s just hers.

Also if the situation was so desperate, she should have rolled up her sleeve and go work to contribute the family just like I and lots of other people did. But from what she’s said she only worked at what michaels for a short period of time and not too long ago.

No. 561353

Don't forget the crooked smile and potato head shape

No. 561376

I know, reading her complains seemed so whiney and oh woe is me despite most of her points bring petty normal things. Like a sketchbook and new clothes are pretty average for birthday and Christmas gifts, she acts like such a spoiled brat.

Also I get that money brings stability but that doesn't mean you're miserable all the time, if anything its the little things that make you happy.

I don't want this to get out of hand in a debate of weather or not money brings you happiness, but with the right mindset honestly you can get over certain things. She just seems to act like such a spoiled brat who wishes she had money to splurge as a kid despite not having worked any jobs when she was little

Saged of course

No. 561380

This is so bratty because she tries to make it sound like she has ever had to actually worry about having a roof over her head and food on the table. Kids who actually grew up poor get jobs when they can. I've been working since I was 15 and paid rent and utilities to my parent for the year I lived in her house after turning 18 and got the fuck out of there as soon as I could afford it so she didn't have to worry about my ass anymore. This goes back to the whole "I bought a washing machine for my family I'm such a special person" like bitch no, that's what you SHOULD do, you live there and are costing money to your mother with your lazy 20 y old ass. If she wants to be considered an adult she should act like it and take some responsibility for herself.

No. 561401

Yes, thank you. I think you phrased it the best.

Also let’s not forget that in high school most of her works were done in copics and she had quite the collection, so… uhm MAYBE she’s exaggerating a little bit? Copics aren’t cheap and if they had that much trouble with clothes and FOOD I would have spent whatever ideal money I had to improve my style of life instead of a bunch of copics just because all the cool kids have them. Of course it was her choice eventually but in that case she had no right to complain about her poor life conditions. Her priorities are so off balance that it makes me dubious she really was “that” poor. Say she worked at michael’s because she wanted to buy copics, If THAT was her only worry then she was pretty average/lucky money wise.
And yes if you have money and live with somebody that has covered your ass all your life to me contributing is simply a given. And nothing to brag about.
Think if her aunt/mom complained every time she needed to buy panties for her or buy groceries for three children. That would sound humiliating, right? Yet she does the same thing now that she has a couple bucks to lend money.

No. 561404

Yeah, I'm not saying Holly grew up rich but she definitely wasn't growing up in poverty. I mean I grew up getting sketchbooks for Christmas and wearing clothes until they had holes in them (at which point they became sleepwear) and I didn't consider myself poor? I honestly don't understand her point of comparison of what she considers people growing up in an average income household?

No. 561405

next time sage it if it's not milk.

Google translate that for me.

No. 561414

Just read the rules

No. 561416

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She spent so much money even though she can't animate. All because its "easier"??

No. 561421

She NEEDS it for her graduation nobody asked to make an animation for. Since, you know, she’s studying ILLUSTRATION.

No. 561424

What kind of stupid school lets Illustration majors make an animation as their senior thesis?

No. 561426

well it is looking better in that vid than the previous stuff

No. 561427

Haha are you blind? It still looks like shit. I've seen better stuff from middle schoolers animating in ms paint.

No. 561430

My bet is that she hasn’t told anybody and expects people to be amazed by her hard work and praise her because she did way better than requested.
I would laugh my ass off so hard if they end up not counting this because it’s too off subject and she ends up not graduating at all.

No. 561436

Tvpaint is not easy … The basis are simple but there's definitely a learning curve if you want to do professional looking animations, Holly is going to get so frusted soon i actually can't wait for the bitching lol

No. 561448

To be fair, as an animator I have to say features in softwares being made "easier" really is important and sometimes even life-saving. Plus, depending on what kind of animation you want to make, the many differences between Toon Boom and TV Paint really matter. Or- they would, for Holly, if she weren't so bad at animating that style doesn't really matter at this point.
Holly, if you're reading this, learn how to animate with paper before you spend additional ridiculous amounts of money on things you're not gonna use.

No. 561466

Hmm this is a good point. Even kids in middle class families struggle to save up for a copics set. Where did that money come from?? If her aunt/mother was struggling to provide basics, how can she justify purchasing copics. Money not being able to buy happiness refers to a state of mind. You could be in perfect health, well fed and sheltered, and able to buy anything you want and still be miserable. Example A, Holly is still miserable even after coming into money.

No. 561475

She doesn’t seem to think she’s come to money though, as she always complains about being poor.
Then there’s another thing to consider. Her mom is not her mom, if this is legal, there’s no way a judge would move a kid into a house that can’t provide basics. I think she’s over exaggerating again.
Also there’s kids who don’t get to have Christmas presents or birthday presents, even if small. And she shits over sketchbooks or clothes?! I would have LOVED both, but had my first sketchbook basically when I started working in the industry.

No. 561477

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I got suspicious since she listed hex codes for the zine that they were not CMYK so I tested it and they are indeed RGB instead of CMYK. It's obvious it'll be a different color in print than intended if everyone will use those colors. I'm so confused about this because she said she knows how to print books..she hasn't specified any technical information on what format the submissions should be either. I don't think she knows half of what she claims to know.

No. 561480

I really wish she would stop pushing her 'woe is me I'm so poor' narrative so much. The fact is Holly had a pretty nice life for an aspiring artist. She has a family that supports her career goals even before she got famous, she has a roof over her head and she even has her own room/working space (something a lot of 'well off' people don't even have). Holly is just complaining for pity points from her audience.

No. 561503

No. 561510

I have never understood her need to slap and touch the screens of either monitors or screen tablets.

No. 561512

She can buy all sorts of useless crap, but I guess a DVD drive is too much? Okay.

I get what you guys are saying but owning something expensive doesn't mean that you've never been poor. She probably wasn't starving to death poor (which is comparatively rare in the US anyway), but I don't find it hard to believe that she grew up low income and probably isn't used to having disposable income like she does now. Her point that people who say that "money can't make you happy" often have never been poor is pretty valid.

No. 561515

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no words…

No. 561521

It literally only takes them 2 days to email you back… god…

No. 561523

Yes but growing up in a low income is different than saying you were really poor to the point of complaining about food.
I know you can be poor and work your ass off/save and buy expensive stuff; but she made her life sound way worse than what it was, money wise. To me the things she listed were either stupid or stuff to not point out if not for pity points.
I said I understand what she means, but she didn’t made the discovery. “Money can’t buy happiness, but they sure help” is totally a thing, and again I get what she wanted to say, but as always she made it worse and phrased it poorly.

No. 561525

Oh my god, is she for real? She could have worked on one of the half dozen projects she has in the meantime

No. 561544

i'm sorry, when she turned the camera around to show her face, i nearly had a heart attack. She more looks atrocious than usual

No. 561548

I think she looks fine but there is something kind of unexpected about her look…does anyone know is she a quadroon?

No. 561553

I'm almost 100% sure she has no clue what a laundering scheme is. She truly never looks up the meaning of the words she's using before she uses them and it really shows.

No. 561554

What I don't understand is why she didn't just pirate it.

No. 561561

You need the dongle to fully use the program unless you’re using a windows based old version that will crash 98% of the times.

No. 561578

I'm surprised she apparently is one of few yters to actually incorporate, hire an accountant and pay monthly taxes.

No. 561585

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No. 561594

Man, if Holly wasn't such a crazy rude hypocrite her videos would actually be alright and enjoyable
I like watching people plan and make drawings/keychains for cons, there's not enough content out for this tbh

No. 561611

She has no boundries. There is no reason for her to talk about not liking her brother on her PROFESSIONAL youtube channel. Holy shit.

No. 561627

Has she chopped all of her hair off??
After going through all the bother of dying it "rose gold"

No. 561639

File: 1524343420889.png (118.38 KB, 640x1136, image.png)

Lol this is entertaining

No. 561645

she said in the vlog that she wanted this program for YEARS, but she used to shit on it not so long ago. And now she can't even fucking wait for one email? There's tons of stuff she could do to distract herself from waiting.
I understand that she's spent lots of money on that program but you can't expect them to work like YOU want. They have their reasons to work this way, and a little more experience in selling unpiratable, professional softwares.

No. 561654


She's impatient, just like with anything else she chooses to work on. By the time she gets into the program to use it, she'll have spent all her energy bitching instead of creating. This TVPaint fad of hers isn't going to last. She just buys things to show off as if they're accessories, not actual things to further her art. She just wants it to say she has it.

No. 561674

JFC, what is this? She's so desperate for instant gratification at all times, just work on your storyboards or any of your 26 other projects, it's been like a day. I think part of why she always starts new shit is because she just can't wait for things to be done/work on them until they are.

No. 561681

Everything about this vlog makes me so mad. So, the reason she's doing the zine is because she wants something to sell at the convention without actually having to make appealing art herself, she can just sell other people's art. Then she's going to PAY THE OTHER ARTISTS IN COPIES THEY CAN SELL instead of distributing them herself and splitting up the profit. This will force the artists to COMPETE WITH EACH OTHER in distribution and drive down the price they're able to sell them at, meaning that everyone will make less than if she distributed them herself.

No. 561682

wtf, I've used both programs and toon boom wasn't that hard to use if you're doing simple animation with no camera movement. Even coloring is super easy with paint bucket. Even if you don't know how to do something, there is such a thing called Google, Holly!
>>561515 >>561639
When you have no patience, so you just go out and buy that and complain you're a poor ass bitch. Has she ever been optimistic in her life? It's always complain, complain, and complain.

No. 561700

Why is she animating in 1's…..With her "limited" time, I'd just animate in 2's since it's unnecessary unless you're doing some complicated action, which I doubt. She better not complain when it's her own fault for doing extra work without learning

No. 561760

LOL she doesn't have enough to do, she's gonna start an MLM too? I'm dead

Hahahaha no it was just unbrushed and thrown up into some kind of mess

No. 561788

Yeah, an hexadecimal color is /always/ RGB. Those are colors used for web and screens. But I see your point though.

I took a look at her True Color Tumblr and she wrote "I have a book printing machine and also know a lot about file setup in Indesign". Obviously if she knew this much she would have created a palette with CMYK codes and specified more informations (like dpi for instance). But I guess she (maybe) would give more informations to the artists later, as she's first going to choose who gets in.

Anyway, I read that the zine will be printed on her laser printer so I can only expect an unprofessional result. I wonder why so many people want to enter this zine.

(also what irks me is that Holly posted her previous printed works on "creator" page… But those are fucking MOCKUPS. If you want to prove how good you are at making books just show fucking PHOTOS Holly)

No. 561808

Yep. She's basically saying "I have a piece of software and a printer, so obviously I'm competent". The whole thing is so haphazardly organized. Then again she'll probably require everything to be something crazy like 600dpi like her webcomic pages. I'm still not over that.

No. 561812

It's fucking amazing to me how she's freaking out about how the kickstarter won't make it. For someone who claims to be an expert in all fields, does she not know who IronSpike is or what she does for comics? there was no way the kickstarter was going to fail.

No. 561829


Didn't she also say that she went to an art highschool or something?

Lmao when I was 17 my family was dead broke, like, living in a trailer, getting clothes from church drives and shit. I highly doubt she could afford as much art shit she had tbh if her family was as poor as she makes them out to be.

I see people do this shit all the time for the Tortured Soul Points

No. 561907

I doubt anyone would want to workout with her, she would just be complaining nonstop the whole time

No. 561977

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No. 562001

>a inuyasha background-

I hate her misuse of "a" and "an", she never knows when to use which. is that supposed to be quirky? Cute? It's idiotic. It irks me so bad, she almost always gets it fucking wrong. Maybe she should've invested in more grammar courses.

No. 562002

Anon she is genuinely that stupid.

No. 562008


So lemme get this straight,
She put up a donation pool to help her afford TVPaint… knowing that she was gonna get tax money back, just so she can go ahead and buy it on her own anyway? What a scammy move.
And she has an accountant.

But she's poor, though.

ok, Holly BRown.

She's such a fuckin' liar, and I honestly lament the people naive enough to enter her zine with her shitty rules and color restrictions.

Holly never really does anything to benefit the art community as a whole, she only does it to benefit herself and line her own pockets.

Also, a print with characters backs turned away is generally unappealing, unless it's the focal point of the fucking image.

No. 562071

Best part of all this is that her mindless followers won't even be able to put 2 and 2 together to actually call her out for her bullshit. In fact I'm almost positive the people who donated will donate again when Holly posts some other dumb donation pool.

Also, I'm calling it now, Holly's next donation pool will be for her Zine once she realizes she doesn't have the money/resources to actually print the thing.

No. 562085

She obviously just grabbed a palette off Kuler or something and didn't even think about it. I'm sure she's the kind of person who blames it on their printer when colors come out "wrong".

How is she going to get this film done if she can't even paint something simple like that, even if it's for a shitpost? At least use one of the myriad of free VN/anime BGs out there.

No. 562277

Does she still get the donation money?, or was this similar to a Kickstarter where you need to reach a goal?.

ALso she probably got even more of a discount with being a student etc.

No. 562293

I think she did it on Ko-fi or something similar. So she received money for it for sure.

No. 562362

No. 562366

Look, a bunch of shitty sketches and horrible anatomy studies.

No. 562398

She still doesn't have a drivers license? Hasn't she been taking lessons for like a year now?

No. 562422

File: 1524428713970.png (142.53 KB, 329x302, descarga.png)

its confirmed, that hand was traced

idk why i had some faith in holly that she took the time to draw an interesting hand for once

No. 562434

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dont see the difference

No. 562447

>>562362 ''i want to have Lilith from EVA as a …a… charm. I realize that nobody knows what the fuck that is anymore 'cause everybody up to slang (what?)
with the hot new animes''

holly how out of touch are you with your demographic or teens in general that you think people dont know evangelion or its a rare ge that only anime experts know ffs, you dont even need to have seen the anime to recognize it

No. 562449

okay so in the video, she states that she plans for videos constantly but never makes the videos because she's scared of what people might think. do you think this line of reasoning applies to her other work? cause it sure shows what with organizing the many, many projects she's been talking about.

No. 562453

>that hairline
pls holly

No. 562464

>had my first sketchbook basically when I started working in the industry
How did you start working in the industry with never owning a sketchbook? That seems crazy, how did you practice and learn how to art well enough to get a job in the industry without even one sketchbook? I can get a sketchbook for about $2 in a cheap shop. Or are you talking about something really specific?

No. 562486

>"I realize that no one probably knows who lilith from Evangelion is anymore"
…in which world? She really seems to think Evangelion is some niche shit lmao, Holly. Listen. Most people know about Eva, even in 2018.

I wonder how she judges her art sometimes. She'll show something kinda interesting or just the same quality as her other stuff and say she hates it, and then prefers other sketches for no clear reason.

How is it confirmed? She didn't say anything about it.

No. 562558

1) what hand are you talking about?
2) Is it in this picture?
3) confirmed how?

No. 562560

Sketchbooks here are quite expensive, the only cheap sketchbooks you can find it’s from a couple years ago when flying tiger started to open stores in my country.
I had tons of printer paper and used that, plus when you create a portfolio you basically only use single sheets (well of course heavier paper but per page it still costed less than sketchbooks) ; I’m talking about traditional media, of course, but you get the idea.
15$ minimum for a sketchbook were a waste of money, especially considering that I didn’t need to keep every piece together for practice pieces. With 2 $ I could have way more paper.
If you really want to draw and improve the basics all you really need is shit paper and a pen/pencil.

Also yes Holly NGE is totally not an icon known by basically everybody, and it’s not like they are making new movies, it’s totally an unknown niche anime

No. 562573

Anon probably means those hands are so bad Holly has to have traced the good one(s?). Which I mean maybe? Doesn’t actually confirm anything though so..

No. 563072

Yeah I also used mainly printer paper. Sketchbooks were too final for me I always threw my stuff away when I was a kid. I didn’t start keeping one until college. I think sketchbooks as a whole are becoming their own little niche because of instagram and youtube lol

Sage for Ot but does anyone else think it’s weird how polished people make their ‘sketchbooks’ now? I just don’t understand. Is it for views and likes? Or does everyone do line art and color in sketchbooks with detailed backgrounds and shit?

No. 563083

I usually have them polished looking because out of habit I mindlessly render em too much for a sketch lol… Also, I dont really post on social media as much, so it's not for the likes and such for me. That's just my experience. For those who do, it could also be for the likes (I'm not sure since I'm not them lol)

No. 563097


There are people who like to make their sketchbooks look presentable for the sake of putting out a video or showing it off on social media. it's trendy, so they'll do it more for the views than actually developing ideas and practice for themselves, so their sketchbooks all end up looking the same throughout, just cause they needed to pump one out.

No. 563137

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but… even your finished works lean, Holly baby

No. 563154

that's such a cop out. holly you should be working on that shit in studies/doodles, that's what they're for. although i forget she thinks sketchbooks are supposed to be a window into the soul that can't ever be criticized

No. 563198

ill be honest, i actually really like art lean if its done right. a lot of cartoon artists make it look really good… not holly tho

No. 563227

File: 1524505211535.png (223.71 KB, 266x474, peen.png)

why did she give this guy a shoe for a foot?

No. 563250

I think this is what she thinks a stylised foot looks like, with the arch and everything.
I myself tend to clean up and do “polished” stuff because again, I’ve always felt sketchbooks were precious, so I use them when I want to do more refined doodle and go back to the “bad” habit of practicing on scraps of paper. I often try to be looser and leave blank pages or whatever but it’s a strong feeling personally. With cheaper sketchbooks yes, I can devote them to gesture and just practice, but pricier sketchbooks, with a good paper, would feel wasted if used just to draw practice pieces. It’s not for showing off as I’ce always tended to keep my sketchbook kind of private.

No. 563313

Holly's channel is pretty much dead. She makes a lot of views for a small channel, but for someone who has 215k subscribers? Not even a quarter of her subscribers actually watch her videos. it seems to me that it's only the videos she makes about controversial topics that get any views, and that's probably because people want to see how her views support or back some other youtuber's opinion. I guess she's going to have to do more than try to leech off of the my hero academia fanbase to get some clout. She'll have to start some sort of controversy in the art community about something stupid such as these;

- "Why Right Handed people are better then Lefties"

- "Why you shouldn't use references" (I can tell you one reason why you should… If you don't you'll end up having your sketchbooks look like hers!)

- "Why you shouldn't take critiques"

- "Why you shouldn't listen to art teachers."

- "They didn't hire me because of my art style!" (…that and your art sucks)

No. 563333

File: 1524511872271.png (75.29 KB, 1166x292, Screen Shot 2018-04-23 at 12.2…)

Holly was definitely accepted into CalArts, but is just reassuring you guys that she thinks that their application process is dumb!

No. 563334

She actually made the animation channel…


No. 563348

File: 1524512584893.jpg (8.93 KB, 942x89, 61yGczV.jpg)

So…Animation is what? Not art?

Channel's not gonna last. She's already shown disinterest in animation.

If she can't even put in an effort to do studies for drawing fundamentals, then i dunno what makes anyone think she'll make an effort for animation studies. Not one bouncing ball or flour sack or pendulum from her.

No. 563371


Sketchbooks in a school setting are a tool to learn and do studies. Like, actually draw stuff from life and figure out how to get images on paper so that you don't end up with leaning bodies, dodgy perspective and bad anatomy. She really thinks a sketchbook is just to draw random crap like she does, which will never help you to improve.

No. 563380

Just two videos, and she didn’t work on any of these for the past what three months? She’s showing old and crappy works
Also I hate how she’s basically making him move like a girl… guys putting hair off their shoulder won’t usually move like this

No. 563399

File: 1524515290106.png (626.99 KB, 1170x856, Screen Shot 2018-04-23 at 13.2…)

Here's another project she's adding to her never ending pile!

No. 563407

if the original video sucks ass, i can't imagine how bad hers is going to be.

No. 563431

Art YouTubers overall tend to get a lower subscriber to view count. Her views seem on par with a lot of the other art YouTubers of her subscriber level

No. 563444

wtf is up with the chick's eyes. They're wonky as Baylee's lol

No. 563485

Directed by:
Holly "i still don't know how hands work" BRown.

10/10 - needs more lean.

No. 563532

No. 563546

seriously. look at the hands in the picture.

No. 563605

Wtf the original is great, hers I'd complete trash and also why is it anime when the closest mcr got to animation was western styled comics?? Get that weeb shite outta 'ere holly BRown

No. 563823

I decided to take a look at the animation channel and yikes.
The way the trees are moving in the background in her background animation look so choppy, and not to mention the fact that she most likely took some random leaf animation off the internet and added it on this animation.

No. 563881

File: 1524541830965.png (145.64 KB, 1071x625, Untitled.png)

i love how there is simultaneously too much and not enough exaggeration. like she stretches the shit out of it when the pose changes are minimal lmao

No. 563894


ok then if she wants her sketchbook to have those flaws, why does she sell copies of them?

No. 564062

Also why are some trees moving with the wind while others stay entirely still? It just looks so off

No. 564140

Because Holly draws like someone who has never seen anything but has a vague idea of how things should look.

No. 564178

it's more likely that she just halfassed it (like almost everything).
she probably looked at an old anime (where the studio didn't had the time or manpower to animate all the details), said to herself "i can totally do this in my current editing program", tried to replicate it, got bored and moved on.
this is why the leaves are moving but she forgot that some leaves go THROUGH her fence and that the grass near the bottom corner SHOULD MOVE.

No. 564192

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How long do you guys think this will last?

No. 564218

And yet she’s still proficient in it, standing by her website.

No. 564219

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Why is she so against working on her real projects instead? Girl you have a billion projects in the work with a deadline and keep doing other stuff instead.

No. 564278

any farmers watching the stream?

No. 564284

Started watching it but honestly it's the most boring thing ever. She has gotten absolutely nothing done and I can already tell the MCR video is going to be cringe.

No. 564287

File: 1524579577616.jpg (98.93 KB, 480x715, Screenshot_20180424-101754.jpg)

The chat is always hilarious

No. 564289

>join stream
>"Y'know when you haven't showered in so long you can feel the grease on your hair?"
>"I honestly don't know how I'll manage to shower everyday once I have a real job"


No. 564290

She just asked the stream does anyone else also not shower for days… No one answered

No. 564308

She's doing lineart and all her strokes are so short ands scratchy even when the line she is doing is supposed to be a long one. She is sooo bad.

No. 564309

>part of me just wants to animate to prove to people I can do it
>you realize most animators don't need to know how to draw

No. 564310

>I draw boys bc I don't relate to ladies

No. 564313

haha i'm not an artist so I wasn't sure but I saw that and it looked bad. In the recommended from one of her animation videos is a video about disney animators where I saw a guy did mickey's two ears with one stroke. I was amazed at the confidence but then I thought well that's professional animation and then lol there's holly scratching away to make a long line

No. 564317

nasty as hell holy shit
>haven't showered in "two" days
>(anounces) sweaty boobs
>no clean clothes

and then ends stream because she's thirsty. Only came for the end but I don't think I could have managed the whole thing anyway

No. 564322

I only watched it for a half hour, she was getting mad nothing looked good and the chat was just doing it own thing basically ignoring her while she rambled about being smelly

No. 564383

Oh god. So gross. I mean I’m all for being open and honest but—grease on your hair, WHAT.
She doesn’t even have real deadlines or appointments, why can’t she find 10 minutes to shower? As a STUDENT? She’s probably the worst human being when it comes to time management

No. 564618

Every person she draws has the same hair what the fuck.

No. 564627

Judging by how she looked the other day it's been a lot longer than 2 days. She better be careful with those buns and unbrushed hair she's gonna end up having to cut it all off.

No. 564907

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and so it begins…in the fugly guy animation, his eyes are in sync with his mouth that it looks like a robot…

No. 564990

File: 1524636506013.jpeg (178.94 KB, 640x519, 039461E5-E04A-4052-A485-A887DC…)

Uhm guys, she said “after 6 days I can use tvpaint finally”, yesterday, right?
Checked today, so detract one day from the screen, BUT. Look at pic related.
She received it four days ago. Four. That means that when she posted the “finally” she had it for three days. THREE fucking days. HALF of the time she said she waited to use it.
Then there’s people not accepting that she’s always over reacting and exaggerating everything.

No. 564999

Not to give her the benefit of the doubt or anything, but she could be accounting for the shipping?

No. 565007

I wouldn’t count shipping as impediment to use a certain product, and from her tweet she seemed like she was fighting with the dongle (lol sorry) and codes for six days but could be just me.
You could be right (and thinking again you probably are), but that’d sound even more stupid to me. I would count from when I receive the thing personally.

No. 565071

>>it blew my mind when I found out stretch and squash are not just shrinking the element, you need to keep the mass consistent but push it
>>this program is for stupid people who just want to draw

I have no words.

No. 565080

File: 1524649618402.jpg (20.4 KB, 500x375, Jackie-Chan-WTF.jpg)

wtf…did she actually say that??? Oh my lord…I can't even…what???? You literally learn that in animation 1 classes. 12 principles of animation, Holly!

No. 565087


No. 565091

mfw squash and stretch is part of the 12 laws of animation and anyone who has taken an animation course will learn all 12 them at the beginners level.

No. 565092

Yeah, I watched the livestream. She basically threw shades here and there, and said wrong or stupid stuff about animation.
like this one. And Apparently, she JUST NOW is starting to read books about it, BUT she's "stupid" and doesn't get it.
Yeah, sure.


No. 565214

File: 1524669782390.png (199.88 KB, 640x1136, image.png)

She thinks THIS looks better than the original music video???? That hand. Omfg.

No. 565218

WHY does she give every fucking character she draws the bang flippy thing?!?!?!? Is she incapable of drawing other hairstyles?!?!?!? Dear fucking LORD Holly this is horrendous! I'm so sick of everything she draws not only having same face but same HAIR.

I. Wh. I don't.
H-Holly put the fucking pen down. You do not deserve to damn the world with your "animations". I have no words for her absolute STUPIDITY about animation. Get the fuck out of my field of choice Holly, you don't deserve TV Paint or your popularity.
I'm sorry but this is day fucking 1 animation class,maybe day 2 depending on the teaching style,how the fuck does she not know this?! Harry Patridge has animation tutorials and in the first few videos he explains squash and stretch and demonstrates it! How can someone be so obtuse?!

No. 565330


anybody else feel like her animation is trying to be disney?? the eyes and chin mostly.

also the tiny pupils look weird in hollys "style".

No. 565343

Disney Yugioh maybe kek

No. 565628

File: 1524691863766.png (932.12 KB, 582x1238, Screen Shot 2018-04-25 at 14.3…)

my eyes….

No. 565632

lmfao.. At least she's honest about her looks in that drawing. Kinda looks like she just lazily traced a photo and is coloring it in, rather than drawing it with the intention of making it look at least somewhat pleasing to look at.

No. 565639

New to this page, so please excuse me, but from the looks of it this seems quite different than what she usually does - does she do this often, or is it just the digital shit?

The hair is really nice on this, but as a traditional art student, that is not how you do skin at all, and shes already majorly flattened out the nose.

I agree with >>565632 though, I do think it was traced.

No. 565641


Hey and welcome :) please put sage in the email line if you’re just commenting and not adding milk.

How would you suggest she should do skin? Sorry, artistically challenged here. I don’t even know if she’s taken a traditional medium class but she’s done paintings on her channel before.

No. 565647

It really depends! You have to take into account lighting and everything, but there's really never any reason to just put a base of yellow… It's just a really nasty and hard to work with color.

As someone who is close to her in skin tone, I always use a peach as a base and then use light browns and more peaches to build up my layers. It's clear to me that even on the cheek, she only has two/three layers of color down.

You REALLY have to build up layers when drawing skin. I've done portraits where the layer of colored pencil I use is in the 30s - it just really matters that you build up those color. A lot of people make a mistake by instantly grabbing whatever 'flesh' tone and just covering everything in that, but it really makes your art pop when you throw in blue as a base cover and work from there.

It's strange to me that she doesn't know that, because the hair clearly shows that she's used colored pencils quite a bit - and she's using Prismacolors, which are one of the more expensive colored pencils.

She's also just really not following the form, and that can kill you when doing faces.

No. 565665

The skin looks radioactive. Its definitely traced but she could've traced a rough sketch. Probably just traced a picture.

No. 565764

File: 1524704549532.png (452.96 KB, 1168x790, Screen Shot 2018-04-25 at 18.0…)

What is that hair..and I totally thought that her arm was amputated because of how flat the arm and the thing on it is…

No. 565781

it doesn't even look like the actual band members?????? did she even look at them for a reference at all or did she just shit this out without one like usual

No. 565806

God I thought that weird little triangle was his mouth.

No. 565814

LOL, I can't unsee that now
Are they floating in space?

No. 565816

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No. 565817

holy hell I literally assumed that's what it was until you said that. I think it's pretty telling how wonky Holly's art is that I didn't even question it.

No. 565836

Around the 20:00 minute mark she legit starts making fun of people with catheters/CPAP machines…? Like, it just seems so wildly unnecessary. On top of everything else lmao

No. 565848

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That’s not a “her,” im pretty sure that’s supposed to be the lead singer of the band. Yikes

No. 565866

File: 1524712062807.png (158.69 KB, 682x576, Screen Shot 2018-04-25 at 20.0…)

oh oops. mb. Never listened to that band and Holly's drawings are just so bad that I couldn't tell if female or male….

No. 565870


its not your bad, its hers. My yikes was towards her because that face 100% reads as a woman. In the livestream she even said she doesn't draw female characters because she doesn't "relate" to them, but she totally does draw them- she just calls them men.

No. 565917

There are families that can't even afford shoes and here she wants an overpriced phone. Also how dumb are you to not know how to brush your teeth

No. 565927

I cannot unsee the little girl's right… Hooks? Claws?

No. 565934


Lol, nope. Also a dude. He's supposed to be a vampire. Also I'm pretty sure his hands are backwards. Especially his left one.

No. 565942

I'd give her more credit if she was trying to re-envision a song, like if were actually inspiring a different sort of view or feel from her, or her own voice.

But all she's tried to do is recreate anime scenes and music videos with her shitty animation and call it 'improved'… and it's all just so uninspired.

It's pretty uncanny how she works hard in all the wrong ways but is also lazy at the same time.

No. 565963


She said in her stream that she thought that the music video was just thrown together after shooting teenagers and it wasn't telling a story the same way that their other music videos did and decided to take it upon herself to make an animation telling the story she heard as she listened to the video. I completely agree with your last comment wholeheartedly lol.

No. 565977

I can already tell this is going to give me nightmares. Seriously, if I saw this on someones website I'm sure I would instinctively close out of my browser.

Positive note, the 'lets ad so many details with thin lines and flat colors later' style kinda helps hide Holly's complete lack of understanding of anything art related. Negative note, everything else. Holly, lets be honest, all your animations are going to be unintentional 'wiggle' because you have no idea what the heck you are actually doing.

No. 565979

She's the kind of person who doesn't realize an album usually has an intentional structure plus taking into account the fact that Blood is an unlisted 'secret' track at the end of The Black Parade urgh. I just hate how she misses the point of everything and takes everything literally.

No. 566004

I’m sorry but there is no way she is actually going to finish this. Has she finished even one project yet?

No. 566022

Nope! Not even sure how's she's gonna finish her school project on time, which is the main thing she should be working on and not re-creating a music video…

No. 566025

This wouldn't have been a problem if she picked any other project for her senior thesis.

No. 566077

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Seeing this made me unreasonably angry for whatever reason.

No. 566115

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She never really changes her color palette, does she

No. 566118

why is there blood dripping IN the blood bag? like…it's a bag of blood that hangs on a hook where tf is the blood dripping from?

No. 566124

Why is the IV line under the bed rail? that's not how it goes Holly.. and.. this is kind of a pet peeve of mine but if you're gonna put a heart monitor in there, make sure the EKG drawing is normal..
That EKG looks like some deadly arrhythmia ..geez

sage bc nit picking

No. 566296


Her lines are tangenting SO bad

No. 566340

He’s like floating on the bed like he’s standing cuz she can’t do basic anatomy and foreshortening.

No. 566453

Omfg enough with the stupid wood texture. It looks dumb.

No. 566461

File: 1524772680198.png (399.72 KB, 1142x1068, Screen Shot 2018-04-26 at 12.5…)

She NOW realizes it?!

No. 566463

File: 1524772726368.png (884.86 KB, 1160x1020, Screen Shot 2018-04-26 at 12.5…)

> My demographic isn't towards kids, guys!

No. 566465


No. 566474

What conventions was she going to be at?

No. 566475

I think one of them is SanJapan. Dont remember the other one and if she's even accepted

No. 566538

I don't even understand what that's supposed to say?

No. 566542

Same what does Hot Thris mean?

No. 566547


classic Holly BRown random and inappropriate pattern of capitalising letters

No. 566616

it's not wood, it's the curtains.

No. 566641

What planet is she from where curtains fold like that though

No. 566651



No. 566682

Give her a break.
First she needs to spell her own name properly.
But she hadn't find an expensive program to spell her name right yet.

No. 566696

Same anon and oh. My. God. That doesn't look like cloth.

No. 566839

File: 1524797521659.jpg (89.3 KB, 930x596, fem.JPG)

The simon character dresses as a waitress. i dunno wtf this is

No. 566843


Those are Simon's parents.

No. 566860

Lmao Tfw all her girls look like guys but all her shota guys look like girls wtf is this

No. 566862

i guess you can see his hair-itage clearly…

seriously tho, the only way she could think to make him resemble his parents was that weird hair because sameface syndrome (paranormal) plagues her

No. 566864

I know their backstory!
Dad has a nasty case of "2d hand" syndrome.
Mom has a serious neck injury.

No. 566873

Isn't her forearm NOT supposed to be overlapping the upper arm like that

No. 566876


Why would Holly be expected know that after all her years in art school and the like? That sounds pretty unreasonable to me lol.

No. 566945

Holy fucking shit did she just misspell her own comic title????
Aw ye my fave comic Purgtory love it

No. 566952

Wtf Simon’s parent’s look just like Simon and his boyfriend when she ages them up (can’t remember his name. Sailor boy Hershel kid) Wtf.

No. 566955

Yup. She says it's intentional but I say it's just a bad case of same face.

No. 566984

Does anyone else get the feeling from this and other images from this project that she's trying to lift inspo from Kaneoya Sachiko? She mentioned upthread in a vlog she's a fan.

No. 567057


anon.. i think u might be right. not sure if it's intentional but her style in the mcr video definitely feels more like kaneoya sachiko than usual

No. 567078

The title was spelled like 5 different ways on her kickstarter page.

No. 567102

No. 567144

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Holly stop adding more projects to your list.

No. 567150

Observational work, huh? Like, look at something for a second and then draw your own wonky interpretation? That's her style isn't it. Or take pics and then trace them off camera like her portrait lol.

No. 567243

The sketchbook slam challenge should be halved page wise and be mostly studies if you want it to be productive. Of course that isn’t too different from a focused class schedule in a drawing course. If only Holly understood what it is to study.

No. 567247

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150 artists?? That's a 150+ page book she is thinking of making by hand. This is the same person who struggled to make three of her sketch artbooks by hand, all of which came out sloppy and badly cut. And she expects to make enough money to pay all 150 artists??? They'll all get $5 by the end if they're lucky. Holly sucks at math and never takes into account the cost of labor.

No. 567341


She’s absolutely fucking retarded kek I can’t wait for this train wreck

No. 567373

Maybe it's because they're more local, but most zines I've seen and been in usually only have like 20 to 30 artists in them… wouldn't 200 be overkill?

No. 567468

Complete overkill! This is going to be hilariously cringey

No. 567505

I wouldn't be surprised if she was. Her style is like a dollar store version of it kek

No. 567595


I can't wait to see this crash and burn and then other artists and fans will see her for the absolute tire fire she is. She's already overestimated how big this zine should be. How disappointing would it be for artists who were accepted to suddenly realize that she can't actually take that many. All because she decided to bite off more than she could chew, as usual.

If so much as one part of this fucks up, the onus is on her,since she's the only one running it as far as we know. I really hope this exposes her.

No. 567650


the only people I'll feel for are the ones who got suckered into submitting and getting accepted. sometimes these are hard lessons tho.

No. 567653

I’ve noticed that holly always goes overkill with everything she does, like why? She uses 600 dpi, is animating in 4K resolution, makes wayyy too complicated animations for her skill level and now the zine that’s going to be 150 pages?? Why does she do this? It’s like she thinks that quantity > quality

No. 567715

you forgot the sketchbook slam challenge at 20 pages per day kek

No. 567766


That damn sketchbook slam challenge needs to fuckin die already. it cultivates shitty unhealthy habits in artists, especially beginners who arelse lead to believe the fast track to improving is wearing yourself thin. that's Holly's method and it's always work harder, not smarter for her. never do Holly's method.

hell, she's probably looking to do it again so she can get another buzz of popularity/views and establish herself as the "originator" of the challenge. we see right through your pitiful tricks, Holly BRown.

No. 567786

File: 1524894345947.gif (18.77 KB, 300x328, 1510466893680.gif)

all these beginner artists have to stop assuming that because children in east asia have the discipline to study like this that it won't burn them the fuck out lol. I hate this challenge

No. 567819

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This looks like a bloodbath

saged cuz not really relevant

No. 568053

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CASES Closed kek

No. 568083

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No. 568139

Th those flowers look pretty interesting in hollys (usually disgusting) style. Maybe she should switch from comics/animating/other bullshit to just making home wallpaper lmao

No. 568141

the more you look at it, the more interesting it looks

she took several stamps and reoutlined them
the roses she outlined once then duped them, turning them slightly and resizing them
one of the heads of the long flowers has disappeared, leaving the stem and leaves

how the hell is she going to animate this without it looking like complete balls

No. 568146

There's a reason why you have to simplify things for animation, it's not just because animators are lazy holly. Even in ghibli films the animated things are drawn simply against very detailed backgrounds. All this shows off is her ignorance about animation.

No. 568246

Oh god. Please don’t re-animate from my favorite show and fuck things up as usual, Holly.

No. 568250

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Was going to actually praise her for drawing her first head that wasn’t at a straight on angle to the camera… but FLOWERS STAMPS Holly ??? I’m triggered and youre lazy

No. 568274

File: 1524948143365.png (64.59 KB, 1182x262, Screen Shot 2018-04-28 at 13.4…)

More videos that teach young artists the wrong way to approach things!

No. 568297

If she tries to do an animation tutorial video I'm going to have an aneurysm.

No. 568360

She wants her click bait youtube money back

No. 568447

But… those leaves…the wrapping paper… and the small roses!
The one BIG rose (because the other 2 are just fucking rotated copies) is okay-ish, i would buy a giftcard with it for my SO.
Maybe she should only do giftcard designs?

No. 568460

No. 568498

File: 1524960261382.png (735.15 KB, 1368x1154, Screen Shot 2018-04-28 at 8.00…)

There's so many obvious things wrong. But I'm put off by the only way she knows how to make dialogue emotional is adding swears. This character wouldn't swear, makes no sense for the character she is attempting.

But, either way this update is a gold rush of keks.

No. 568503

How long is this table? Why is the sad sitting so far away?

No. 568565

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No. 568627

Hey you guys. Here's the reupload anon who mirrored some of Holly's deleted shit. The youtube account that I did that on was hit with a Copyright Strike to remove the video where she shits on her flat color guy. It's a burner account so I only half care, and I'm fairly sure that I still have the file flying around somewhere - but for the sake of the other mirrors it'd be cool if I could let someone else upload this particular video? Would any of you be cool with that?

I can't believe that she's petty enough to issue a copyright strike just to hide how awful she is to people who work with her.

No. 568628

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No. 568672

"the the fuck else"

No. 568710

Dang anon, I didn't even notice it the two times I read it… now I can't unsee it lmao

No. 568718

it's a fricken fish/packman. Holy moly, I can't unsee now lol

No. 568721

Is there a way to put it on a different site entirely, ok not surprised she did this at all

No. 568728

File: 1524970895070.jpg (147.26 KB, 622x1024, 4a02c8cfdfb87f561bec92cf2db1e6…)

You was quicker.
But this is what that hair reminds me.

No. 568833

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You dont need it at 4k, you dont know how to do a wiggle animation, so it looks like everything is having a seizure, and your bounce thingy at the end doesn't look like a bounce, but a poorly made "squash and stretch".

No. 568855

Holy shit you're right! Everything looks like its having an erratic seizure, also why the fuck is the blood bag dripping from the top? Its badd, really awful

No. 568930

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I knew I had seen this before…

No. 568957

This looks kinda better than usual maybe the proportions of the girl, even tho the hair still is shit, the characters doesn't have anything interesting to offer visually either,anyways I prefer if she anyways pick the disney style rather than Anime~!

No. 568983

Pretty sure the only reason the proportions are ok is because she used an art doll. Also the composition looks like a parody of cliche anime shots out there so the only real thing Holly added to this was her boring character designs.

No. 569004

Holly has an ugly tendency of posting for every three frames of progress she gets and its infuriating. Its would be better for her to hint with atleast a fully animated 5 second snippet for her fans to mull over than pushing all of these 10second videos showing three clumsy half made non colored frames just so she can make another empty tweet. Shes an actual child in all aspects

No. 569023


Omg this is way too fast …… That's probably the first mistake you make in animation you have to give time for the action to happen !! Even tho it would still be horrible, she could improve it a bit by just putting all of her frames on twos ….. But no she's a professional guys, glen keane bows before her talent …

No. 569033

Can you give me a site for that where I don't need to sign up? I don't want to associate any personal account or data with this in case Holl comes after me again.

No. 569088

i wonder what the essays she writes for her online school look like

No. 569129

File: 1525013566723.png (332.4 KB, 640x1136, image.png)

Heres the charm she was going to make so that people wrap their earphones around them - an idea she took from another artists btw- she scrapped it but look at how bad this shit is. Why is there no weight or density to anything she draws?? The rope looks like she copied and pasted it there, it doesnt look like its going around the character and it doesnt look tight at all. Also the trunk arms look like shit

No. 569169

I thought she drew him in bondage when scrolling

No. 569181

Why are the lines so inconsistent? How hard could it be for her to keep it consistent when she's literally copying and pasting the same thing

No. 569253


I hope she tanks at SanJapan.

No. 569256

It's so flat and for some reason the lower body is messing with me. It feels like the top half is in front view and bottom half is 3/4ths with no transition in the middle. Or that his feet are starting to slip underneath him.

No. 569327

File: 1525033743427.png (775.57 KB, 1146x1032, Screen Shot 2018-04-29 at 13.2…)

So what is the point of this when she already has hotkeys on the side…?

No. 569343

She had 100+$ to waste

No. 569353

tfw you have money but claim to be poor

No. 569412

lmao, if she wanted to be more efficient with time, then I would've gone with the keypad where your fingers can reach every button easily. Holly basically wasted money on something she already had lol. What's new

No. 569417

File: 1525041302736.png (135.72 KB, 1182x624, Screen Shot 2018-04-29 at 15.3…)

Holly thinks she can be a charismatic person. Good joke!

No. 569440

File: 1525042793568.png (1.35 MB, 1440x2560, Screenshot_20180429-155840.png)

Catching up on Amberlynn Reid drama, and spotted a wild Health-Expert-Holly in the comments.

No. 569444

Watching two cows interact is always fantastic

No. 569472

lol she's one to talk about making right decisions

No. 569503

Holly is not in the position to tell Amber how to loose weight. Holly barely knows how to keep her own life together.

No. 569505

Someone copy pasta this into one of her vlogs but change every mention of weight to mention her trash dump of a room and how she never goes outside. Holly is the last person who should be giving advice on how to be a healthy person.

No. 569509

You know if they responded back to Holly? lol

No. 569655

File: 1525052575380.png (1.93 MB, 1150x1250, Screen Shot 2018-04-29 at 18.4…)

Look at those paws lol

No. 569663


There she goes again trying to prove to 'the haters' she does what she obviously doesn't do.

No. 569672

There are very obvious issues with this but I honestly dont mind this theres plenty of anatomy mistakes and the folds in the closing are maaajor guess work but this style in the sepia tones looks cool to me tbh ive always preferred her works where its a more realistic cartoon style i think it looks cool even if its not 100% accurate and I think she'd have more promise working on that instead of her weeb shit

No. 569682

copying then pasting an assett and scaling it up or down will affect the line thickness

No. 569737

Its like she doesn't properly see shapes. She just makes it up as she goes

No. 569741

File: 1525058805207.jpeg (37.51 KB, 201x252, 5EF7B9A2-CE88-4D65-B756-7CA2C8…)

I will never be okay with that hand.
Also Holly who are you trying to fool. You work so hard you barely accomplish anything and you share even the littlest things. Of course this is the only recent traditional piece you made, stop looking busy when all you do is wasting time in stupid animations, avoiding all of the other projects and real assignments.
Also this is extremely boring color wise, and the drawing itself is hideous, leans and the more you stare at it the more you can make a bullet list of all the errors.
I wouldn’t show this level of crap.

No. 569745

Am I the only one bothered by his face? It doesn't even look like a shadow, but like a burn mark. (mb, if it actually is a burn mark, but I doubt it is)

No. 569749

Nah it’s normal to be worried, it means you have eyes.
Isn’t it hilarious how that hat is “sitting” on his head, too?

No. 569752

not more relevant, but I find it weird that she spends a lot of time on certain elements of her appearance (hair???) and then doesn't wash for way too long and shares that info with her fans. And always looks like ass, generally?

No. 569769

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there are glaring mistakes but its easier to explain them away with muh style and the fact that it clearly actually took effort as opposed to her other horse shit which can't be defended at all lol. I wish she had the commitment to draw this way all the time, like i don't hate it

No. 569790

> she used an art doll
Look at the girl's head orientation, look at the back orientation. I'm pretty sure she used a ragdoll instead of an art doll.

No. 569792

i-is that what i think it is coming out of his crotch?

No. 569809

nah i just did a choppy edit in paint lol, it was the original version of her clever kitchen OC that looked like it had a boner so i just… extended it for keks. she's fixed it now though

No. 569812

i like this direction for edits - put her implied thoughts out in the open

No. 569889

Holly should join the art commentor community. She can be the new Spoctor.

No. 570056

Lol holly is also making Abby Brown commentary videos! I follow Abby too and when I was looking for her new channel, I clicked this and sure enough, I knew that voice

No. 570081

Apparently Pentagrin and Atari had lied about him being a sexual predator. Sage for ot

No. 570118


They either lied or were woefully misinformed about what it means to be a sexual predator because they are that incredibly dumb.

Now that I think about it, yea, why dosent Holly join the DA ranting community, its right up her alley.

No. 570157

Are you sure thats holly? It really doesn't sound like it. Also holly has no buisness telling someone else how to lose weight. Trying to lose 40 pounds is not the same as trying to lose weight when you are morbidly obese. Has holly even lost any weight yet??

No. 570163

That doesn't sound like Holly at all… To me atleast,

No. 570172

You sage by typing "sage" in the email field.

I don't know if there's a single community on youtube more vapid and petty than the deviantart ranting crowd. Every single one of them is at least twice as annoying as Holly BRown, if you ask me.

No. 570182

That's not Holly, that person sounds too articulate to be Holly. even if she read off a script and pitched her voice there wasn't a single lip smack, "uhh" or "I dunno".

No. 570221

I think the video poster is making some kind of joke. Obviously it's not Holly - I don't know what Abby Brown is maybe they are mixing Holly Brown with that?

No. 570336

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is it just me or does this sound like completely incomprehensible word salad?

No. 570342

thats… not how any of this works, holly.

No. 570351


A concept: How about you write a good character, first, Holly. whether or not the character in question is "realistically gay/bi" enough doesn't mean shit if writing a good character in the first place isn't your focus.

No. 570370

i hope twitter manages to cancel Holly soon she is some high level retard.

No. 570424


> is sexually attracted to people of the same sex as her

> thinks she’s straight

That’s not how it works. If you are sexually attracted to and date both men and women, then you’re a bisexual. It’s not up for debate or personal feelings. It’s a word with a definition.

No. 570429

shes conflicted cause she probably wanted to make a straight manly character she could thirst after for once instead of a twink: hershel
BUT she also wants to pair hershel up with reese
so she wanted to do something different but she cant get out of her yaoi cycle

Cue her tangent on why labels people choose to use don't necessarily equate to their actual identity

No. 570432

eww what kind of girl would date/kiss her though

also she's a fucking atheist (like outwardly not hiding it), but shes scared of admitting to her aunt/mom shes attracted to girls?
(in a vlog she talks about how she bought a yuri manga in front of her mom then had to convince her shes straight)

No. 570454

Holly just says crap so she can support her point. Honestly doubt she’s ever dated anyone before.

As for her word salad twitter post, she could have just said that she hates putting labels on relationships and a majority of people would have been completely ok with that.

No. 570464


She said in one of her life stream that she is not a virgin, poor unfortunate soul to fall in that trap

No. 570481

You would have to be pretty gullible to believe Holly wasn’t a virgin.

No. 570513

The term we use for straight girls who fool around with girls but aren't attracted to them is "bihet" lmao if you are genuinely attracted to the same sex above wanting to titilate men/out of loneliness you are not straight. I feel like Holly is the type to date girls out of desperation bc no man would ever touch her, but she's not attracted to women at all. At least she's honest about being straight.

No. 570548

She needs to get how to draw hands book badly or just draw hands over and over

No. 570555

To me it’s all about validation. I think Holly is straight. But she wants to be able to ban ‘labels’ so that when non-straight people point out the flaws in her poorly written queer characters she can fall back on beig queer herself, but also completely straight nudge nudge wink wink

She is a fujoshi attempting to justify her fetish by borrowing queerness when she’s just straight? And likes to wank to m/m porn?

No. 570583

I haven’t read through all the Holly Brown shit but oml is she a lolcow. Wanted to clear some things up that I saw on previous threads. It was the Romanian girl (Ioana) that gave me harsh criticism. It wasn’t a critique either she just started shitting on my art. After I stopped talking to her Holly rarely spoke a word to me so idk lol we talk once in a while and she wrote me a nice note after I supported her Kickstarter. Her art is not that good most of the time no lol. I definitely tried to defend it because she was my friend but she’s kinda… a salty idiot sometimes okay lol she’s been a really kind and supportive friend tho so I have no ill will against her.

Also I’ve never used this site so I wouldn’t even know if I had a thread. I wouldn’t be surprised because I was pretty cringe before I kinda tried to lower my online presence (I still am now too sadly) so if I do please don’t link it to me hahaha my anxiety was already spiking just seeing me mentioned here!! I didn’t stop doing art tho. I do it far less and pretty much only draw faces and have an unfinished zine because lord knows bodies are fuckin impossible for me now. I kinda get a lot of anxiety from art now most of the time so I really don’t draw like I used to it just bums me out most of the time.

I did have someone reach out to me on my instagram about Holly deleting her videos with me and Ioana and I honestly had no clue until I DMed her recently on twitter. Ioana pissed her off lol Ioana is a petty bitch tho and she wore that badge proudly idfk why.

Holly is probably worse with friends than I am somehow tho that’s why we kinda fell out. I think it’s mostly because she doesn’t give a shit about talking to her friends or reaching out to them. It’s sad because she was a really good friend to me, even if as a person she’s just a salt factory. After seeing all this (most of this salt and cringe I was not aware of I never really watched her videos cause I thought they were dumb and annoying lol) I’m probably never gonna reach out to her again. Tbh she’s just really negative tho so it’s probably best I stay away from her!

But yea that’s all just wanted to weigh in and clear up any shit about me.

No. 570586


Okay this is hard to understand
I'm gonna go ahead and give her the benefit of the doubt and assume what she means is that she personally dosen't like it when other people put labels onto her because she feels they are too constraining. And as a possibly bi/straight person, this has been her experience with her sexuality.
Tbh I have known people of the same mentality and it really is sorta like "dont pressure me, I'm trying to figure it out/just trying to live my life." Which I think is all well and fine.

But Holly goddammit, you're stepping on your own toes again! Just because that is YOUR experience dosen't mean it is everyone else's experience. So why the fuck are you running around telling people "this is the proper way to do it" again???
Is that what you're trying to say?????WTF ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY????

No. 570598

Honestly, unless you have milk on holly i dont think anybody really cares

No. 570642

Fair enough. I was an idiot for thinking otherwise lol

Well there’s a couple things someone might find interesting

She shit talked literally every artist ever, including Kim Jung Gi. Said his art was mediocre and his process was played up and uninteresting. Maybe because he can draw accurately from his head and she’s salty that she has no clue how to Idfk.

Honestly I’ve never seen someone so hell bent on finding flaws in everyone’s work but being completely oblivious about their own work. Her problems she acknowledged were: her weird slanted lean in her art and the fact that she can’t draw hands to save her life. Everything else was great in her eyes. Even her studies are often off but she’s never addressed that she was so into “improvement hell” but neglected to actually improve it was beyond annoying.

She told me she only made Damian and Simon gay so that it would get popular as a gay comic. Seriously.

She also always got really triggered whenever talking about her brother and would freak out if he ever was nearby. Like once he came into her room and asked her something and she lashed out at him and just kept yelling at him to get out and for like the next two minutes after he left all she did was talk about how stupid he was and how much she hated him.

I think the most interesting thing for me was when she got a table for San Japan the year Baylee was invited. She was making these bizarre posters that had like no color and were just like.. shitty drawings of “popular” fandoms. They weren’t fucking popular other than Ghibli and the Ghibli one had more obscure characters and they were sometimes not even recognizable. And she was so fucking sure she would outsell Baylee, and constantly bragged about it.
Yea she didn’t make back the money she spent on everything. Idk how she thought her stuff would sell. The idea she pitched to me for fanart sounded good but her execution on them wasn’t even subpar. Baylee totally outsold her and it was like pulling teething asking her how the con went. She was so upset it was sad. But literally how the fuck did she expect to get anything over Baylee when she offered obscure shit that wasnt remotely interesting. Also apparently she went to Baylee’s table and kinda was like “hey I’m on YouTube too” and Baylee was like “yea I know you” and that was it. Baylee was so uninterested and over her.

No. 570649

Yes, this is what we want lmfaooo. I kinda figured holly disliked baylee because she would constantly shade her in livestreams but she denied it in comments. Pretty stupid to hate everyone on youtube just because they are more successful lol

No. 570652

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Oh boy, here we fucking go

No. 570681

I cannot even describe to you the contempt she had for Baylee. I mean I don’t really like her either, but Holly shit on her CONSTANTLY. She watched all her videos except the toy channel. Criticized everything she did.

I fed into it I admit but Holly really hated her. Once upon a time Holly made a “challenge” where she redrew Baylee’s Prince Jack Frost piece. Before me and Holly ever spoke I actually called her out on it because she was essentially just copying Baylee’s work to make it “better”
Idk if she ever replied.
She used to be really open with shitting on other artists tho, especially Lemia because she was “teaching bad habits about inking”. That was mostly when she was in highschool and made videos. She acts like she’s different from then but I think she’s just more careful who she talks to. Cause she talks a TON of shit and it doesn’t matter who it is.

No. 570690

I remember during their (Lemia and Holly) collaboration video Holly had mentioned how she was a bitch to her.

No. 570722

Yeah i dont like baylee either but damn i didnt know about the jack frost piece. She always comments on baylees videos now being all supportive. Almost like she is kissing her and lemia's ass now.

No. 570730

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Is this gonna be another online school thing?? Idk why even bother with grad school cuz she's not even giving a flying fuck about her current school. It's gonna be a waste of money as per usual

No. 570781

Holly would make a horrible art teacher. But seeing how many bridges she's undoubtly burned in the industry + her lack of skills I don't think she'll be getting a job anytime soon. My bet is she'll go to grad school online.

No. 570822

i can see her in 20 years as a spinster/ hs art teacher lashing out at people with the spechie 'i'm better than my art teacher' mindset but also being entirely in the wrong.

No. 570856


Hell, anon, I can see her being the very subject of those "My art teacher hated me" videos the whiny art youtubers make. it complete the cycle. but here's hoping that won't happen. she needs to fix herself, or she'll never be fit to work among others in any capacity. who wants to work with someone who'll shit on them eventually?

No. 570858

Baylee may be lazy AF, she may make uglyass art, and she may be greedy and inconsiderate, but at least she minds her own damn business. at least, as far as i can tell, she doesn't shade other artists nearly as much. most likely because she doesn't need to. and the only interaction they've probably loosely had last was tied to the fuckin sketchbook slam challenege. it didn't mean Baylee was going to be all buddy-buddy with holly like holly had probably hoped so that she could schmooze and mooch followers off her.

No. 570862


She thinks she can have it both ways, sucking up to better or bigger artists and then turning around to talk shit about them.

That's why no one of note wants to deal with her. She's too much of a snake. Nothing she does concerning other artists, is genuine. she's too self serving and conceited.

No. 570869

Holy shit I remember that, and the video after that she just straight up bitched how she can't do anything without being called an asshole or a shitty person. Like… Okay how do you not see that what you did was a bitch move? Man I kind of miss her content back then, it was a lot more interesting then her bland was bullshit now

No. 570945

Nah, I can see her as a high school art teacher. In fact, I remember having a bitchy high school art teacher just like her! She had no technical skills whatsoever and she spent a majority of class talking shit about other artists. Good times.

No. 570962

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She actually printed that horrendous thing….

No. 570965

Why tho?
Also how did this girl ever graduate from an art high school if this is the quality of her work now?

No. 570971

haven't seen this one before but it reminds me of the "that's my tit, bitch." video on the freakout reddit lol

No. 570973

hello spech
jk friend, i think this is a pretty much universal feeling with anons who do art. i hated my hs teachers but you know. gotta be humble and stuff

No. 570975

Same anon here. In all honestly I really liked every other art teacher I had except for that lady. There was nothing redeemable about her. Not her attitude, not her art and definitely not her teaching. The only good thing about that class was that it was a 1 semester 'elective' so I didn't have to deal with it for too long.

No. 571104

It’s unfortunate but true. Those who can, do, those who can’t, teach. At least i America. Our teachers in the U.S. are paid so pathetically, it seems now most HS teachers are being replaced by students fresh out of college so that they can pay them the lowest possible salary.

No. 571254

Yeah tbh I don’t think these art teachers are ‘talentless’ as Spechie would put it (lol) it’s more that they’re burnt out/don’t care as much. My art teachers were jus tired and done lol

No. 571259

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Is she even working on her school projects lmao. That's like a shit ton of people to go through

No. 571272

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Taken from Baylee's thread, but look who's still kissing ass lmao

No. 571274

Why is she going to post and accepted list publicly? I mean… if you have any artists with clout, slowly releasing names is a good way to promo. Also not all the artists are going to end up in the zine in the end.

I'd say it's unprofessional, but this is Holly we're talking about.

No. 571392

I can't fucking believe Holly's shitshow got this many applicants. Bandwagon anime fans are the absolute worst with zero taste and zero regard for the integrity of a project or its creator, clearly. BNHA has always been disinteresting to me and this just seals the deal.

No. 571572

Or its artists that view this as a networking/promotional opportunity if this shit actually ends up happening. Even if Holly is garbage it doesn't mean she doesn't have a decent sized platform in the art community whether its bs or not. I mean I'd be a sellout too if it meant future opportunities for commission work by fans of the zine.

No. 571592

I guess that's true. I'd just think some cursory googling on the organizer of this project would be enough to turn people off. Obviously not.

No. 571615

Nah we're sellouts man you give poor artists too much credit though I've got some standards but definitely not everybody I respect the grind but if they end up with negative results for working with Holly thats on them

No. 571661

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I would highly recommend a keypad instead cuz you'll waste time reaching for hotkeys on this one….

No. 571679

late reply but didn't she shit on cartoon reviewers like, a few months ago? lmao

No. 571731

I don't even want to defend her, but people have a lot of reasons not to use a keypad. Usually their tablet is so big they can't reach it effortlessly, so they'd rather use the express keys.
What's weird to me is that if she has to label them because she won't remember them otherwise, does it really even improve her workflow? Digital artists don't even have to look at the keys, it's muscle memory. If you can't remember the commands you'll take just as much time looking for a tool on screen than on your hotkeys.
Also those label stickers are kinda ugly, it'd actually bother me more to have ugly white stickers on my tools..

No. 571733

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I thought they were apple slices at first. Such anatomy, great volume definition!
I agree with the muscle memory, most of the time I can’t even explain some actions I’m doing because I’m too used to just hit the keys, I know the placement but not what keys they are unless I mimick the movement while watching.
I THINK she could have just put them to help her memorise the hot keys and then forgot/was unable to detach the stickers, I honestly hope she doesn’t look for the tool button every time. In my opinion is way quicker to just learn the positioning of your shortcuts (if they’re too much or you suck at remembering things) just by trial and error.
The whole printing, cutting and placing stickers is more consuming than actually memorising the keys as you go. But that’s her jam: harder, not smarter.

No. 571736


Apple slices, my sides, I definitely saw fortune cookies there too, anon

No. 571740

I've seen artists use those gaming keypads that can be hung on top of the tablet or on the side. Beats sliding your arm up and down hoping to press the right one. But I guess it's preference. I agree with the sticker part though. It looks like those labels for little kids

No. 571741

i thought they were raw chicken breast.

No. 571746

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Under waffles new video.
I know she supposedly wants to be supportive but it really gets on my nerves. Whenever she shits on cookie cutter channels, she is referring to her too; and what the girl is going through in first person is different than dealing with somebody who is ill. It’s a different kind of pain and no she can’t understand how it is like to BE sick.
Also encouraging others to beg for money?
I mean If she really needs it and it comes for her I’d even help, but suggesting to just open tip jars because “she’s too cool” (god she’s such a snake) upsets me. This seems to be the solution to everything for Holly.
Just ASK for money.

No. 571756

Holly got a lot of submissions for the same reason she gets fanart of her ugly characters, because people are desperate for exposure.

No. 571757

If Holly was trying to just be supportive I would be happy for the improvements she has been making with interacting with others. Unfortunately I'm pretty sure she is just doing this because her views are down and she now realizes she won't get anywhere by burning bridges.

No. 571765

Fuck is she really going to post all the artists? I regret submitting to it. Here's hoping I'm rejected!

In all honesty my reason for submitting was plainly for exposure as a less than well known artist. As much as I despise Holly, fan art is fun for me and I don't have trouble doing it.

No. 571766

>having dealt with my sick dad

something about the way she worded this really seems shitty.

No. 571771

She was overjoyed to get his room and everything about her 'dealing' with her dad she made it seem like he was a burden on her. She only cares about herself and making money.

No. 571772

I think Holly is horrible at expressing herself. I don't think she meant any harm with this comment on waffle's video tbh.

No. 571789


I think it's ironic since she's called other chronically ill YouTubers healthy and said they can't understand dealing with shit, but I don't think she meant harm by this comment.

No. 571910


It still sounds really back-handed and it wouldn't hurt to maybe learn some tact. But then, Holly has no class and has to make everything about her. She should've just kept her mouth shut on an issue she has no idea about.

No. 571960

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She retweeted this..I don't know what I'd call her "occupation" but she sure as fuck isn't a freelancer.

No. 571986

She doesn’t know the difference between freelancer and unemployed.

No. 572075

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Oh boy, here it comes

No. 572079

"You're too cool to suffer lol"

Does she not understand how to give someone some kind encouraging words? I hope Waffles doesn't respond, she doesn't deserve to be wrapped up with Holly.

No. 572142

“Money will heal your sadness”
-Holly BRown

No. 572192

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No. 572245

"One specificity for sexy men"?
I'd get a good laugh out of Holly trying to draw anything remotely sexy.

No. 572292

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No. 572311

It looks like it's been cropped out of a larger painting. Her composition skills is so bad…How did she even go to an art school without someone calling her out on that

No. 572314

I keep wanting to give her the benefit of the doubt, but god, this print is awful and boring. And I cant get over spike's hand clipping through the fucking fence. her art is like a fucking bethesda game

No. 572322

This makes me so salty tbh. Holly can organize and sell zines and books because of her large fanbase even though her art sucks balls, and other artists who are way better literally have to beg people to buy their things and work 10x harder than her. I hope she fucks up the MHA zine and people stay away from her other projects.

No. 572328

Why the fuck is Spike Captain Morgan-kneeing midair on a fence?? Her inability to draw anything in perspective is so laughable it goes full circle into just plain annoying.

No. 572341


I wish someone would take the time to try and actually mimic these poses in real life to the best of their ability, then take a photo and compare it to her art work. Not only would it be entertaining, but it would save people from having to write large paragraphs unpacking why Holly's art sucks so much.

Seriously can't get over how wonky her poses always look. If she was a 10 year old or something, I would understand, but she's a damn adult who's been to ""art school"".

No. 572386

that girl looks dead ffs this is utter shit and just what I need to look at when I feel like my own art is shit

No. 572454

I really love how their feet don’t touch the fence. Such a nice style choice Holly uvu

No. 572484

I thought you were joking but holy shit you're right, they're both floating in mid-air.

No. 572503

I love how she didn’t bother to use the line tool so that the sign could have straight edges but she had no problem using a clone tool for the fence.

No. 572517

Holly is the Tommy Wiseau of comics you can't deny it

No. 572522


What exactly is the focus of this image? is it the sign? the sky? Is it spike? is it faye??

I genuinely don't know. this image has no flow, all it is are elements randomly placed in a dead-on angle.

and the arms are pissin me off, are they legit putting their arms over the top and through the fence?

what a fucking tragedy, lmao. I hope she never touches cowboy bebop ever again.

No. 572530

At least the colours are goo— lol they’re muddy as fuck

No. 572532

She has since fixed the layers so the arms are wholly on the far side of the fence. It doesn't make much more sense because it still looks like they're supposed to be in the sweater pockets (dunno, does this character's jacket have pockets?)

No. 572574

Im so excited to see this bitch bomb at SanJapan. goddamn, it's so far away

No. 572586


whatever the reason, it's one hell of an "I can't/don't feel like drawing hands" tell.

just look at that tangent from wrist to leg on spike.

No. 572614

Just saw on twitter, Holly is saying she will have to animate 20 seconds a week for Clever Kitchen to be done in time. There is no way that is going to happen, especially when she is working on multiple projects.

No. 572631

Is she considering the time she will supposedly be away for the convention? Also lol she says she’s gonna draw 240 frames per week. Sure.

No. 572646

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Isn't the girl character Holly's self insert, it looks just like the way she draws herself. It's so obvious she fantasizes herself with this guy character lol I even remember her saying in a vlog she had a sexual dream about him once.

No. 572699

Why does Faye look like she's 14 years old.

No. 572701

Whats up with those random lines on his arm??? What?

No. 572717

Pose dolls aren’t swoll what was she supposed to do, look at a real human?

No. 572844

Real question is why does she look like a boneless chicken

No. 572852

No. 572918


>There's just gonna be some things you're gonna have to fuck with. But here's a tutorial

>But here's all this shit you need.

>slams down book after the glue is done binding.

>Says built-in cooling rack sucks, but doesn't even mention why.

>weeks ago, wondered why tf her cut came out wonky


>guillotine cutter

> says "this can be very, very expensive!" several times.

She says that if you don't have a lot of money it's better to get all this shit from the jump but…You really don't need all these bells and whistles to make small comics and zines. You literally just need a printer, a photo editing program, and maybe some staples.

Hell, at THAT rate, you'll hardly be making art because you'd be too entrenched in binding books, or trying to afford to bind books.

This is why…Artists opening up pre-orders for a print run to be more affordable and professionally made is a thing .

Bad advice, as usual.

No. 572933

I admit I find the process of creating professional-esque products at home interesting, but the format of the video seemed more targeted towards beginners from the way she was talking like the viewers didnt know shit about printers and etc. Idiots/Holly stans will watch the video and feel like they need to go off and waste their money on things they dont need

No. 573041

Yikes as someone studying print media in uni, hearing Holly talk about printing anything drives me crazy. She has little to no experience with professional printing, I don’t see why she felt the need to make a thirty minute video on the topic….

No. 573043


I seriously doubt she's made her money back on any of the shit in the video. and then she's telling other beginners they'd make theirs back in the long run? it's a flat out lie. you won't, not without a following, at least, so it's easy for holly BRown to say.

Let's say that an artist does have a large following and demand for books goes up. at that point do you really want to do the work book binding orders and trying to make new art at the same time? at that point instead of paying in money, you pay in time spent producing.

only one of those is a renewable resource…

No. 573052


Putting your work in a book format won't fix the egregious amount of art lean, Holly.

Also, stop encouraging people to buy unnecessary shit to make simple zines and comics.

Most people buying them don't even mind the finish when the work is good, which is probably why Holly here is overcompensating.

If it was me, I would've suggested to my viewers to try book binding out at a workshop first, or do further research and really think, 'is this something I want to invest in and do in the long term?'.

Because that's what these are, they're long term investments. Almost ALL of the shit she mentioned in the video are 'nice to have's. but they aren't necessary to getting a product out to people.

What she is trying to do is imitate as closely as possible, professionally done book binding. And if that's what she wants to do, cool, it was an interesting video, but don't go telling people they need a laminator and a guillotine cutter to get a job done.

Smarter, not harder.

No. 573141

There were a few things in the video that are fairly inexpensive and add to the overall look of a product that can be added to really cheap techniques to create books/zines (Ex: decent lamination machines can be really cheap if you're printing in a normal size unlike Holly "I need to make everything I print a non-universal size" Brown) But 90% of the process she mentioned was completely unnecessary for someone to do at home rather than having them printed and bound someplace professionally or to just make something more simplified on her own

No. 573415

his armpit hair is on his pec, come fucking on.

No. 573454

Didn't you know, art dolls don't have arm pit hair and 'real' artists like Holly never use reference from real life for stuff like this! I mean aside from glancing at an image for a couple of seconds and absorbing the knowledge like the prodigies they are!

No. 573523

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We know your anatomy hasn't gotten any better though

No. 573524

I’m just imagining DaVinci saying something similar,” lol sorry guys I’m not a master or anything I just copied peoples faces for reference and put them on the 12 disciples, I didn’t come up with them from my imagination so I must be a hack.”

No. 573528

This is literally the same as someone with downs admitting to you they have it. Everybody knows Holly just because two 13yr olds said you were good by their standards does not mean the rest of the population wouldnt even take a quick glance and think 'thats decent'

No. 573563

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“Make the tail twice as long”

No. 573577

The length wouldnt even be a problem if it wasn't for the fact that it looks like a man planking with an ebay purchased mermaid costume on that was 2 sizes too big. He's supposed to be underwater but Holly again needs to prove that she's the stiffest drawer that happened put their illustrations in the microwave for five seconds so it looks fluid (re: leaning)
Good to note that unless there are surges where he is sleeping, his hair would sink down to the bottom with him and not just stick like a bad anime character, water doesnt equate to zero gravity.

No. 573630

His body looks like a tree trunk.

No. 573718

Love the shoulder blade hip line

No. 573825

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What is this! What is going on in here?

No. 573854

Dear god thats his spine. Thats what holly thinks a spine looks like.

No. 573888

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No. 573902

YES because she’s an entitled little bitch. She’s not deep, she’s not original and her stories and pinups sucks. Of course people would get mad at her.
She’s always complaining about other people without realising she does the same mistakes.
Like the whole mermaid rant: to her mermaids should have fixed proportions, and then when SHE draws a merman she doesn’t apply such proportions. She bitches that everything must be plausible even if it’s made up but then she keeps drawing those fucking glasses on Simon because “they don’t make sense but I like it”
She’s the only one who’s allowed to have preferences or stylistic choices, everybody else is a loser or doesn’t know any better.

No. 573932


Watch out she's about to get so deep guys!

I love how even though she participates in things like Mermay, she always manages to find a way to shit on the way other people participate.

Who cares if it's just pinup, and not a full on multilevel story? It's for fun. Which is something she tends to suck at, and suck out of everything.

No. 574018

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… I take it she hasn't been following her own advice.
What the hell is going on with this page?

No. 574114

oh my god imagine paying for this piece of shit

No. 574270

I think the reason Holly shits all over other people participating in things like Mermay is because she instinctively knows that her art will not stand out by itself so she needs to artificially make a way for her work be noticed by the masses.

For example, in this situation Holly is trying to make her stuff stand out by being 'the only artist that puts actual thought into Mermay by creating a shitty story for her mermaids'.

No. 574291

Except it’s full out there or people taking challenges as an excuse to create a story. Even one of the cookie cutter channels she shits on, art a la carte, did a mermay with a story last year. Even Tom Bancroft did it, and he said it’s OPTIONAL. He’s the creator and said it’s just about having fun drawing mermaids, but of course Holly knows the challenge better than the creator himself!

No. 574334


This is amazing how much she's fucked this up. The crease is eating her prints. I thought she didn't format it right but she cut the edges she needed off. She's completly fucked it because she didn't print the bleed to the edge.

No. 574510

pin-ups are fun to draw and holly doesn't know what fun is

No. 574548

File: 1525550134408.png (534.71 KB, 541x618, tomMermaid.png)

> the only artist that puts actual thought into Mermay by creating a shitty story for her mermaids
which is hilarious because a simple search would show otherwise. attached the first google image search result.

this is the problem with vague posting. she's obviously annoyed at certain artists for what she views as "lazy pinups" but instead of calling them out or talking specifically, she makes a general statement about the entire event.

No. 574642

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No. 574666

Well I agree with your point but there’s not much of a story beyond just sunbathing in that one, unless I’m missing something…

No. 574686


I think that post was probably referring to something that Holly said? She probably was trying to suck up to Tom and said that he was a good example of what to follow, assuming that he gave his submissions a story, not realizing that he also did a pinup or something like that.

That's what I got out of it :/

No. 574701

How do you fuck up hand designs this simple

No. 574708

>She told me she only made Damian and Simon gay so that it would get popular as a gay comic. Seriously.
I know this is incredibly petty but as a BL artist this is honestly why I've been always bothered by people calling her a fujo and classify the comic as boys love or something. It's so obvious she's more into her self-insert female characters with handsome men instead of writing gay stories and is insincerely using the massive audience for fujo stuff to become popular. Glad to hear my impression being confirmed.

No. 574737

Holly may be an incel with no outlet beyond self insert/hot male OC, but she’s still a shouta shipping fujo. There is a difference between people who enjoy comics about same sex relationships and straight women that get their rocks off to gay porn that often features rape as a selling point. Not saying being into BL and being a straight woman makes you a fetish obsessed fujo automatically, but if your main focus is the ~gayness~ and you’re a straight woman writing a comic about an underage boy being raped in world of uwu forbidden gay love sin uwu, then you’re a freaking fujoshi.

No. 574781

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No. 574782

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It’s just as much or little of a story as she and everyone else does for Mermay. People enjoy drawing pretty mermaids but Holly has to shit on that. I guess because her picture is a man instead of a woman, she thinks she’s innovating and original. Instead of focusing on shitting on Mermay, she should focus on improving her own work.

No. 574784

what the FUCK is up with that mouth. not to mention the muddy unappealing colors

No. 574785

Okay, I'm about to be that girl for a second. This is supposed to be a redraw of a particular scene, so why is Rose wearing a weird black two piece as opposed to her soldier uniform? Sage for dumb cartoon sperging.

No. 574786

probably because it's the easiest clothing to draw lol

No. 574788

Cutest thing she's drawn, though that's not saying much.

No. 574809

What an idiot. This dumbass that can’t read OR draw is implying illustrators that participate in mermay (for FUN you idiot) are required to do a certain list of Holly-approved things with their pieces or they are lazy basic wannabes?? Wtf is she even saying??

Also lmao ‘I’m not participating in MerMay trust me btw I’m making a mermaid video…in May. About MerMay. Also here is a mermaid OC I just happened to draw in May in Instagram.’ OOOkay.

No. 574829


>only helps pinup artists

>illustrators and others should approach the challenge a little differently.

So…Pin-up artists (in the visual art context) aren't illustrators?

>not participating in Mermay

Why does she feel the need to make it sound like she's so above everyone for not participating in something and then thinks she carries any authority in suggesting what people do with a fun monthly theme.
That's what it is by the way, it's a theme not necessarily a challenge.

This is like that 24 hour comic shit all over again. I really really hope people call her on her shit.

No. 574831



> "Um ok so this thing is really popular right now but instead of having fun with it and participating, I'm going to actively look for something to complain about because I'm bitter af and miffed that it's not about me right at the moment and I need the views. How dare people have fun."

No. 574837

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No. 574858

>usually doesn't draw mermaids
>draws two mermaids in the first five days of May
>claims not to be participating in Mermay

Ok, Hipster Holly.

No. 574883

What's wrong with sexy lady mermaid pinups you sad loser. Are ugly yaoi OCs as mermaids better? I don't think so. Holly is so negative amd unpleasant

No. 574912

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No. 574916

She has this…odd obsession with making things better than something, doing things better than others and BEING better than people. How narcissistic can you get and why do people condone this behavior so readily??? And defend it?

No. 574919

No. 574922

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Art from one of the approved artists. She has an eye for talent, doesn't she?

No. 574928

maybe she's using some artists like the 'ugly friend' so her art looks better in comparison. wouldn't surprise me, people did shit like that in my hs. OmG cOllAb!!

No. 574940

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Damn, why does everything she make come out so wonky and unappealing

No. 574941

Cuz she always half ass everything. She never works smart, anon.

No. 574942

Seriously, the font, color scheme, and over all design on this logo is a total eyesore.

No. 574944

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Sorry but I actually chuckled at the thought of that.

Who is the “we” that she mentions? And how is 100+ artists “relatively small.”

No. 574945

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Another of one of the selected artists. She should have been much more selective.

No. 574950

I wonder how she chose these people?? Because some of them are more appealing than hers and some are (sorry to those) kind of shitty and makes you question what was going through her head when deciding these people.

No. 574955

The fact that she chose TwistedDisaster for this zine when she's shown she absolutely cannot execute the characters well into her style at all. That Deku she drew was wild looking…

No. 574956

>about an underage boy being raped in world of uwu forbidden gay love sin uwu, then you’re a freaking fujoshi.
No, not really. Gay relationships are used for shock value a LOT in fiction because they're not the norm and that's what she's doing. Not out of genuine interest exploring a homosexual relationship. Sexual abuse as a story trope is especially effective if it's gay.

Haha. It's okay because she made a huge scene about not going with the flow so now she's just doing her OWN THING instead of that stupid #MerMay everyone else is participating in!

No. 574958

>cynical shock value vs. genuine interest in exploring gay relationships
lol that you think those are the two scenarios. She whangs off to it you goose.

No. 574974


Not to be that person but a lot of the artists she chose for this seem to be pretty good for a fan magazine. As for the ones that aren't that great there's a good chance they bring something else to this table like a larger fan base.

No. 574982

Was there really the need for yet another BNHA fanzine? There are literally dozens out there.

No. 574984

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but wait, after that she's going to create one about FMA! Just like the one she got rejected from!
"Fine, I'll make my own zine with blackjack and hookers"

No. 574985


No, please, someone stop her :/

No. 574988

I mean worst case scenario she completely fails at making a zine and people lose interest in ever working with her again, best case scenario her zine does well and her fans will start to latch on to some of the more talented artists from the zine. It's a win -win scenario either way!

No. 574994

Dunning–Kruger effect

No. 575020

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Ofc holly bought the most expensive watercolor paper. It's totally going to help salvage her mediocore watercolor skills.

No. 575025

Well yes we all know it’s the medium that makes the art.

No. 575061

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Can anyone explain to me what is that on his rib cage?! Thats not what the muscles there are supposed to look like.

No. 575062

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did any farmers apply for this? if she ever pulls this shit again and i am in a place where i don't care about not working for money, i'm totally going to do it

sage for attention whoring i guess

No. 575065

Omg the nipple placement kek

No. 575145


She could've done the list alphabetically in the first place without having to imply she'd been inconvenienced.
Not every artist has a pen name, and not every artist uses their real name. Deal with it and make the list accordingly.


Her again, ugh, I had to remove her from my recommended list on youtube, her art is just too dopey looking.

I hope it goes pear shaped and that artists learn their lesson from this.

No. 575148

Eh to be honest, Arches is well worth the money and acts differently than cheaper brands.

No. 575157

>Not every artist has a pen name, and not every artist uses their real name. Deal with it and make the list accordingly.

The fact she couldn't even be bothered to make a proper list for a major announcement does not bode well for the rest of this Zine.

No. 575229

Yeah, I'm in it. I'm getting paid in front row tickets to the shit show.

No. 575233


I legit thought Holly was using the royal "we", because it would not surprise me.

But maybe she has a secret friend now.

No. 575240

You absolutely need to keep us updated. It's your solemn duty as a farmer.

No. 575325

I applied but didn't get in, which is alright because I didn't have much art anyway.

And besides, I was actually thinking of dropping out since I already have other projects I needed to do–I immediately regretted applying when I did so this is a breath of fresh air.

No. 575327

Did you get the submission video that she was supposed to give to acceptees yet?

No. 575330

I've looked at most of the entries and some of them have very small or non-existent fanbases when they didn't have much technical skill. I'm kinda wondering if her process for choosing is just if you have an x amount of related drawings on your front page. So if she sees a BNHA picture or two, most likely 20+, she'll choose you.

No. 575341

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"Yes I want YOU for my zine!"
I swear there was no quality control.

No. 575357


She probably only picked twisted disaster (which is a good descriptor for her art) because they streamed together that one time.

No. 575413

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So are you doing it or not? When is Holly BRown ever sure of anything

No. 575446

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No. 575447

That body is horrid, what the hell?
She could fill a book with studies easily but it's clear she doesn't do them, no wonder she doesn't get any bette.

No. 575451

Seriously why do her bodies always look like the arms are dislocated

No. 575462

>"A lot of artists I picked were based off of interest in MHA."
Haha called it.

However, if you go to TwistedDisaster's gallery they only have one BNHA drawing?

No. 575469

Holly BRown actually has a friend who tolerates her???? I give them props

No. 575483

true, she just draws the torso and arm side by side straight up and down. she doesn't seem to understand how the delt, trap, and chest connect to each other.

No. 575484


You don't have to be a friend to work with someone on something. But I still give them due for even putting up with Holly.

No. 575646

fucking delicious validation
thank friends, keep us posted

No. 575649

No. 575651

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>muh representation
not actually claiming that holly thinks she's oppressed, but jfc. shits drawn like that in anime cause its easier to animate- once again nitpicking shit she has no clue about

No. 575657

Doing the Lord’s work. Thank you.
Key take aways
-for profit, money divided 105 ways
-paid via PayPal, not sending money orders or checks because it would be hard
-under 18s need parents to sign form
-made template for their submissions
-traditional artists need to scan at 300dpi, colors in RGB not CYMK
-using google drive, psd or tiff not jpg
-claims she has a fairly large following but they need to promote it
-there’s going to be another video on costs and distribution, she’s going to be making the books and selling on storenvy
-art finished by end of May, launch in July

It’s so strange to me she made this a video instead of just an email. And has she even explained why these colors? I find them unappealing

No. 575659

Holly, curly hair is only really a problem if you don't brush it and use products. Get over yourself! But then again she doesn't shower for days, which is pretty grows.

No. 575660


>-claims she has a fairly large following but they need to promote it

This is exactly why I think she’s completely bullshitting about getting over 500 applicants and only picking 100. I didn’t see her post for that zine float around AT ALL (I follow tons of bnha accounts and never once saw it reblogged) not to mention she didn’t even have it up for a decent amount of time? Trying to sound as if she’s got shit when reality she’s a fucking nobody and is going to massively bomb this zine, dragging everyone down with it.

No. 575667

Not people’s fault if you had horrible tastes “growing up” , there’s a lot of animuh character with proper (except stylised) curly hair. Oh, and… like… you know that small movie, from that weird unknown production house? I think it was called the hunchback of notre dame and Esmeralda is supposed to have curly, poofy hair. In animation you’ve got to think about mass, not definition.

No. 575675

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It’s hard to take her seriously when she’s bitching about how curly hair is represented. Not only is it not a big deal but there were plenty of children’s cartoon characters with curly hair. And don’t look to anime for realism kek besides she’s applauded Afro Samurai for their stylized Afros, is that not the same thing? Or does she think that was a realistic portrayal?

No. 575677

Obliques, or fish scales.

No. 575679

Curly hair is simply harder to animate consistently. People don't think it's ugly at all. In fact, it's seen as beautiful (if you take care of it, not leave it as a frizzy rat's nest like HCBRown).

No. 575699

also where the fuck are her characters with curly hair?? does she even have any?

No. 575727

Anyone more knowledgeable about printing & knows why she'd make the bleed smaller on the sides of the page and larger at top and bottom?? I'm not a printing expert but the gutter is going to swallow the participants artwork if they work according to that template, especially if it's a paperback.

No. 575735


Yeah we've seen her home made books have the exact same problem.

I also can't wait for that cost breakdown video.
it's already looking to be a hot mess. She didn't even think to say 18+ only to get out of the hassle of paying underaged people. not that I think splitting the money 105 ways will be cutting anyone fat checks anytime soon.

None of what she explained in the video made this whole scheme any less shady, because she said she was going to be the one to print the books.
Wouldn't you think she would want a larger cut of the profit based on that alone? cost of time and materials.

lemme put on my tinfoil hat and postulate that she probably wants to take this to sanjapan, Mark it up and pocket any money it makes, I wouldn't even be surprised. that's why there's a rushed due date on this little project she decided to cook up. so she can profit off other artists' work & have another item in her store and on her table.

just a thought. I just can't trust any of it, and I can't be crazy for thinking this…

No. 575738

You’re not crazy for thinking this. I mean even if Holly doesn’t end up lying about profits to scam money out of the zine she probably will still end up factoring in the cost of printing the books (+labor) before splitting the money which means she will finally be getting paid for her useless printmaking equipment.

No. 575741

i thought that too and her sperging about 'GUYS I HAVE TO SPLIT THE MONEY 100 WAYS' cinched it for me tbh

No. 575742

I'm starting to really feel glad about not being picked for this thing. I hope the other farmer doesn't get screwed though. God speed, friend.

No. 575764

Wait.. by looking this video, and seeing there is a link to google drive where is going to be the final submissions.. Isn't that kinda risky? I mean, why bother buying the zine if the entire zine leaks?

No. 575766

I bet she thinks her self-insert has curly hair.

No. 575772

You can create private drives, and allow only certain email address to have access to them.

That’s exactly what she said in one of her recent vlogs I think. She wanted a book ready and made with “no effort”. I am not really getting how she’s going to manage this money thing… from how she made it sound like earlier it felt like everybody sold their own copy and got the profit of their own books, now it’s cumulative and then equally split? That’s not really practical or smart, unless it’s only ONE person managing the sales.
Honestly in more than 10 years of dealing with professional publisher and self publishing this is the first time I see something like this as a BLEED.
The bleed must be the same for each side of the paper, it’s just allowance, you don’t need to have more paper on top and back. You usually do something like this when you’re establishing an internal grid, and you want to have more space below to place page numbers, and on top if you just want to balance the page. But it’s nothing about the cut. Every printing service and stores I’ve been dealing with always requested a fixed margin. This, and the RGB request, show that she doesn’t know anything about printing, and even formatting a book.

No. 575774

>>575772 But by clicking the link in the description, you can get to the drive. You can even download "true colors download.zip" from the templates folder.

No. 575780

Oh my god I take it all back, she’s a total idiot.