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Most well known for her cal-arts rant, where she bitches about how hard it is to get in while claiming to have gotten in. Also known for giving shitty advice to impressionable beginners.https://www.youtube.com/user/hollyistotallycoolhttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgeEynuhGskPjgNR5DjbZmwhttps://www.instagram.com/h.c.brown/https://twitter.com/HCBrownart
Mirror of aforementioned Cal-Arts rant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvnD-9XOs5k
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>21 year old "freelancer" (lives at home with her mother and runs an online shop selling ugly art)>Salty Youtube fujoshi artist that claims that her art is superior because she went to art school>Constantly preaches that art takes hard work, claims to always practice and study but her art hasn't improved in over two years>Whines about being a starving artist with no money, yet has enough money to buy a new Mac computer and a Cintiq tablet within the same week, then sold said cintiq because she got sponsored for her shitty shitty art>When faced with genuine criticism, she replies with "it's my style hurrr get over it!!">Whines about nobody buying from her online store, but when people do, she whines about having to package and ship off her items >Pandering to the Musicals crowd to get more Youtube $$$>Claims to be the only non tumblrina artist and is a textbook tumblr fujo>Generally insufferable and shitty person
In the previous thread:>Holly backtracks on her animation goals and starts the 100 days of making comics challenge>Her lack of tact massively backfires on her as people get pissed about her constantly shitting on everyone>Holly BALEETS most of her videos and posts two rants about how she's "Done with the drama" and "won't say anything again ever">Opens commissions to make money instead>Deletes those videos too and decides to just go back her regular video and abandon any critical thinking altogether
Is Holly literally autistic, or have the years of being a shut-in just eroded her social skills? Will she ever stop deleting negative comments? Let's find out.
Previous thread: >>>>>>/snow/527029
How's she even doing on that 100 days of comics challenge since she's been doing mainly animating and storyboard shit for the past few weeks, did she drop the ball on that again?
Jfc that’s on point
Really puts all of Brown’s bull shit into perspective. What a mess lol
Aside from one guy claiming to have known her and someone else venting it was probs just some attention seeking anons.
Right now she tweeted bout some spam on her youtube or whatever. My guess is she's going to be focusing on this whole printer mishap for a little while.
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Looks like some painful landing there
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I'm making a Holly art bingo, anyone have any more suggestions on what to add?
this maybe: >>537503
and " "hands" ".
I kekked so hard>>551295
He looks like he's flailing his arms in a fit while trying to breakdance and breaking his feet in the process
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funny example imo
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how the fuck does that even work
(also im sorry for the shitty edit, im no atist but i wanted to atleast find a way for it to work?)
How in the fuck is that camera being held
Also really excited for this bingo
I'll upload it tomorrow since I have to sift for examples.
And I'm already too tired so I'm heading to bed.
I know shoes are very very tricky to get because they're so many kinds and the surface is not uniform so it's hard to get it right without getting close to tracing sometimes. But Holly seems to have discovered the "sole facing forward" side and gone "Wow I'm so smart. Two shapes, boom, a shoe. Never gonna use anything else ever again.">>551371
I want to add : Redraws that are somehow worse than the original (ie her purgatory comic) and failed foreshortening
Maybe the grid should be smaller?
My contribution to the bingo, though:
- Fucked up perspective
- Obvious traced part of the art
- "Where the fuck is the light source" shading
Holly always tries to emulate the line quality/flow of professional animators, but fails to realize that you have to be able to draw accurately before you draw fast. >>551371
I wish we could add the word "PROFESSIONAL", but I guess that's not exactly the contents of her art lmao.
Definitely add hands though.
love how she just left like 40 seconds of empty video so it'd be over 10 minutes lol>>551371
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Of course our Holly had to participate in this meme.
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I know she’s got that curly as fuck hair but does she ever brush it?
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Updated. Two slots remain.
empty backgrounds (no other people ever exist ever)
that same long face
I’m loving this so much it’s unhealthy.
Another art topic…. mmm “my new equipment is better than yours”? There’s the soulless cats she draws but they’re not really common… all of her animals are really laughable. Something about the lettering or her perfect layouts?
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Why does this look bad??? It still has the art lean
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Cause basic perspective lines are totes unnecessary
How can’t she see how wonky this is? It doesn’t matter how many details she adds. The foundations are fucked. Even the line of windows is slanted, they get smaller to the right.
Holly for fucks sake, use references from real life!
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This is what she’s trying to recreate.
lmaoo this has to be the best re-drawing>>552027>>552037
lmfao Holly's colors are so ugly
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I kinda like the old version better lol
Ofc, they're both as equally wonky as fuck, but here's more stylization in the old one that makes it more interesting to look at.
I agree with you, anon.
I honestly don't know how Holly calls this progress
Brushing it alone will look dull, flat, and ruin the beachy waves. God forbid if she did that with short hair she would have the dutch boy hairstyle
What she needs a good cut that goes with her face shape, no tumblr coloring bullshit, use a shampoo and conditioner that sulfate free, no additional product since this could weight the hair down and cause acne, blow-dry with diffuser on hot then blast with cold after showering, and optional invest in a silk pillowcase to prevent any frizz.
Source: eurofag with the same hair type
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so many things wrong with this drawing
I laugh so hard because she really bought a batch of HtDM recently.>>55231
Again her mentality that owning/buying something will make you a professional. Now she’s gonna have a degree and be able to be the shitty teacher jealous of other people’s talent she hated in high school. She just can’t seem to understand that she needs to practice while actively thinking of what she’s doing instead of spending on programs and tools.>>552126
Loving the bent thumb! But as someone suggested, this is way too detailed and complex, she would have at max some paw hands under the camera. My guess is he just got mutilated for that panel, they look like broken wrists or he’s handless.>>552037
Ahahah all of the proportions are wrong in her picture. It was also idiotic to use the previous version as a base just to save some details. If you don’t want to redraw it, don’t. It’s simple. She focuses on details instead of the big picture/ mass allocation. I see a pattern. I still can’t believe that amateurish (at best) as she is, she is still perceived as a goddess and professional by her subs. Sure, that’s because she claims to be a professional herself, but everybody with eyes and a working brain could call it bullshit.
Also guys it’s bothering me to no end that she made the video crying about people who said she should die, and then says everybody who uses mc leod’s music should kill themselves. It’s really, really bothering me that nobody’s calling her out on this just because she’s funny and hhhhhhhhonest
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So curious now of what she received. Any thoughts?
I always unironically enjoy her old building drawings.
Yes they're wonky but I think it's such an interesting style and you can tell she had fun making them.
Her 'improved' version is tragic though what a bloody shame. Digital art and those thin lines do her no favours.
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In re-drawing that she did i typed "where is it?", but i deleted because i feel guilty.
What kind of clueless boomer mom does holly have? She's already making YouTube bux and is wayyyyyy more monetarily successful than her art warrants. For her level of skill, she's already "made it".
Holly is throwing money in the toilet with this dumb online art school.
This comment sounds kinda kiss ass and….
Holly dat you?
Honestly I doubt she makes enough to support herself if she lived alone. ESPECIALLY with all the bullshit she buys. Whose to say she's not spending college loans on all her dumb shit. Also, how does her ass not drive already? I feel bad for her mom. She seems like a burden besides the fact she bought her mom a washer & dryer
Anyone check her YouTube social blade?
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>>552538>Implying YT is a stable, long term career>Implying having 200k subs gives you "YouTube bux"
top fucking kek >>552552
…Why don't you check it?
She's not making that much according to their predictions. It's probably a bit off since she deleted so many videos though.
No I am not Holly. I just know of a lot of boomer parents who force their kids to go to college because they've been taught it's the only option for success.
Also I'm not saying Holly is rich, or that she is self sufficient. I am saying she got super fucking lucky and is making decent money with art that is worth next to nothing.
If holly wasn't blessed by the YouTube gods she would be making 20 dollars a month from random Tumblr commissions. She makes around 50k a year. Way more than her art deserves.
Yeah. Checked it right after I posted that lel
But yeah YouTubes not stable unless you're consistently putting out good content and you're not sabotaging yourself.
I predict holly will fuck herself bad at one point by being he hateful backtracking goblin she is
I remember she made a video once semi-humble-bragging about it. It was her YT revenue combined with her merchandise sales. This was a whole back, though. She definitely doesn't upload as frequently anymore and I think her viral videos lost a lot of steam.
That and she may have been embellishing her actual income.
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Art cutting is not as serious an art as drawing you guys. Drawing takes years to master!!! Anyone can take a ruler and scissors and cut paper okay it's so easy and worthless in comparison.
This girl makes my chest tight.
She showed examples of paper cutting when she was bitching about it. More simple cutting, but still.
But maybe I misunderstood. Although based on what she was saying she'd probably argue this too. Because omg drawing is the only real difficult form of art.
Oh jesus its Spechie, how did I not make the comparison between Spechie and Holly.
Spechie honestly deserves her own thread if she doesn't already have one. She's A LOT like Holly but less loud about it.
I think one of the most noteable things about her is that she once got in trouble at her school for talking shit about a girl there. Then she got somewhat of a following and started acting like a diva, including treating some friends like shit, cause she was convinced people were trying to get at her "youtube fame"
Now that I think about it, if you put these two in the same room I wonder if they'll get along and be awful together or if they'll talk shit behind each other's back.
I'm very interested now. Never heard of her before and that first video I just watched was definitely off-putting.
Can someone please make one of her?
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I dont think it works like that…
You've got to be kidding me.
Becoming vegetarian =/= Automatically losing weight.
Haha. Ha. It doesn't work like that.
I have a feeling that Holly would be the type to forget that you have to supplement nutrients when you go vegetarian. She seems like the type who'd eat nothing but potato chips for a week and wonder why she almost passes out every time she stands up.
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Money from comissions?? Did she even finish those??
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Omg…PLEASE don't ruin his art. Im guessing she's already trying to do studies of his pieces without even trying to "study"
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Ok I finally finished it.
So she basically took the original leaning bath house, and then like…drew OVER it as a guide instead of starting from scratch with the proper foundation? LOL. And oh my GOD she's drawing all the small details first before getting the building's proportions and main foundation down…She always does things half-assed-backwards.
>my art used to lean to one sideused to
? It still fuckin leans.
>Holly gatekeeping what a 'challenge' is again.
Stfu, Holly. Just. Shut up.
Holy shit no wonder she gets perspective so wrong. She just copy pastes parallel planes with no care about the vanashing point or horizon line.
How hard it is to use the built in perspective tools?
On posting studies:
>It's not that I don't do it at all, it's just not important to me.
Stop trying to cover up the fact you don't do studies, Holly, we know you don't think your foundations are important. You post the same 5 studies of those wonky as skulls/heads over and over again. You're not fooling anyone.
>don't draw everything with full brightness and stuff>proceeds to overuse 'overlay'.
As a former sort of
fan of hers I bought shit from her and I can say she does pack them well by putting the prints into some sort of cardboard and if you have a big print she'd ship it separately to avoid damages. Her prints are fine as far as quality goes I guess but the art is shitty ofc. I bought a handmade sketchbook which is the worst thing to ever exist since the cut isn't straight on the edges and the binding broke and its just fucking small. Yeah I regret my purchases.
y'know actually the broken spine and shitty book isn't a surprise to me considering how she tutorialed covering a hard back sketch book.
It was so damn sloppy and I could practically see all the cat hairs stuck to the contact paper. she dropped the book on her lap because she forgot Gravity is a thing and that shit made me cringe.
Why on earth would she give a "tutorial" with the book flopping everywhere and not on a flat surface is beyond me.
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Also wtf is she talking about, her style has been the same for fucking years
Nah they're very different people, with different kinds of bad art lol.
been making those duck-lipped mice for like 8 years now lmao literally nothing has changed about terri's art.
But she and rebecca asspat holly all the time.
Instant bingo every time she uploads tbh>>553087
I almost laughed out loud when she did the texture on the front of the building and didn't even transform it into perspective, just rotated it.
Also I can't fucking wait for her "how to cure art lean" video, where all of her examples still lean.
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She retweeted this. As if she knows any animation principle.
Holly would benefit from learning from the principles and foundations of animation since she’s so gung-ho about making a pilot.
I think we can all tell that she’s never actually studied animation before which is really frustrating. Just doing a bouncing ball or a pendulum would help Holly so much. It wouldn’t even take very long.
You can probably make a safe bet that she hasn't done ONE bouncing ball or pendulum study. She just went right in with the characters, and clearly she isn't serious or done studies, because she's just "moving her drawings
" not "animating her characters
In all seriousness, she's the kind of person who'll become irrelevant when it comes to e-fame. It's kind of already happening. Every time she sees a slip in attention she does some shitty stunt to keep people looking.
I feel like people outgrow her. And they realize sooner or later she's never focused on any ONE of her projects at a time. Like, she's always jumping around and begging for money so she can fuel her shopping addiction.
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ah yes, shit on the con you are atending
I'm suffering from sceond hand embarrassment just reading this lmao, oh my god. Also>its was so cool of them to be Holly BRown
This is a native English speaker.
Isn’t the literal meaning of what she said be like “they enjoyed being Holly BRown”? Like, I had to go and like adapting in my mind what she could mean, that’s “how cool of them to call me Holly BRown” but the more I look at that sentence the less I can understand how is that a native, honest.
I mean, I’m not native and I can spot EVERY error she makes.
Lol she was in such a rush to call an error out that she didn't stop to think for a second that maybe she was rushing to apply that she didn't proofread her own name.
But, nah, Holly BRown doesn't make mistakes lmao my sides. She's probably going to be a nightmare to work with, I already feel for the con staff or whoever is going to have to deal with her.
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>>553526>Instant bingo every time she uploads tbh>every time she uploads
why do you follow her?
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Is she really gonna go with this….could go spend time on her animation than rather waste time as usual. sigh
Lmao what a dick. This is how you alienate yourself and appear unfriendly and unapproachable.
This is not how you further your career.
No professional is going to see her acting like this and think, "hm, yeah I'd like to work with holly brown!"
What a bitch.
There are already 600 page sketchbooks on sale at amazon but they don't have Holly's trademark "sketchbook slam challenge" written on them.
Those sketchbooks are hardcover, too. I don't know why holly thinks there is a market for these in paperback for even more money.
fuck me, that cover design looks like something outta highschooler gossip magazines from 2001. the text is so small and if that thing is going to be on a rack nobody will even see it.
hey holly, just go on pinterest or youtube and search graphic design. there's more to it than just choosing a curly font and some pastels. i beg you…
Well yes at this point a territorial pissing is “nesissary”, Holly. Just keep in mind your typos and errors are way worse than a misplaced h.>>554190
She’s salty because people are “making profit out of her ideas”. Which is not that genius and as already said it’s not like she has trademark over big sketchbooks which she didn’t even make herself for her challenge.
God why is she so salty? Most of the challenges on YT never credit the original author…
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Here she goes again, the girl who always talks about cheating and that refuses to use lazo, pen tools and fill buckets.
Does she forget about the crap she says or she’s just that stupid?
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Pic related translates to: “my self proclaimed deadline is approaching and I’ve done basically nothing so here’s some quick and poorly made color keys to show you that if I’m not meeting my goals is just because I’m working ahead and so devoted to the project. I’m totally not fucking around wasting time over useless stuff, I’m late because of these three studies! I swear!”
We know how you move, you dumbass. You rarely make it into deadlines, and always find excuses and lie about how you work.
Sorry full pic incoming, but it’s new material so I’m not saging
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Full picture. Everything is so wonky and the perspective is so off. I understand that color keys just sets the atmosphere but she didn’t have to detail stuff and make it complicated. She somehow still can’t understands that She should work smart and focus on some basic shapes before adding details.
I mean, she could lean - hah- into it and make it a design choice if she was willing to work on it.
I really like the crooked backgrounds and faces in some of the Disney series like the Tangled and hotel Transylvania TV series, for example, skewed perspectives add s lot of character.
I mean obviously the designers of those started from knowing correct perspective and also how to skew things so they look good, neither of which Holly has yet. At the moment she seems to be trying to make it realistic and ending up slanting everything left. But just from a style pov, if she could be bothered, something like that might work for her story. But she still has to start by learning to do it right.
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I have a pitch document for purgatory for some reason? I have no clue what this is or how I got it. But this is my favourite section.
Jfc how many sets is her "animation" going to take place in? and why is that middle panel curved lIke that?
You know if Holly was smart, she could actually easily get away with making those scenes the final illustrations for her course. but nah she's a dumb bitch. she emphasizes "hard work" on like all the wrong shit.
Christ. Reading a document written by Holly just highlights how piss-poor her grammar is. I'm not sure if there's a correct sentence in this document. Her attempts at being "philosophical" or "highbrow" are so fucking laughable. She says she wrote Purgatory in high school, and it's obvious that she didn't actually put any thought into it at all. She rambles about the plot and her influences, but there's barely any substance to the plot at all? Like, you can't write a story that's a critique of religion in which religion heavily features without laying out the tenets of that religion
? We all know Holly doesn't into worldbuilding because it's "a waste of time," but maybe a little bit of worldbuilding would make it easier to keep up with a project for more than the first chapter, you idiot.
Sorry for sperging but poor writing makes me so angry. The idea of a world where the major power is an occult/pagan "church" that functions in a similar way to Christianity in our world could be such an interesting thing to explore, but no, for Holly it has to be "bweeeeh religion baaaad hhhhhnnnn underage rape scene". No substance at all. I'm so angry.
>>554604>Simon gets raped because rape is a result of religious extremism>"I recommend sorta watching videos about the effects of Dante's inferno, not actually reading the long book"
What I get from this is that Holly has a poor understanding of both philosophy and religion, and honestly that explains a lot.
Fuck, that part about why she wanted to include the rape part felt so half assed and awkward. She didn't even try to use different wordings so that it wouldn't come off so strong, but nope, she just went right in and said that she wanted to include the kid getting raped since it's a prominent aspect that surrounds catholic churches.
Christ, this just comes off as fujo shit so bad where alot of stupid yaoi plots are just the main guy getting raped and the love interest justifying it and shit.
Reading this document makes me sick, there's better ways to actually deal with these kinds of issues, don't just put it in as a plot device to mame the main character seem "uwu so vulnerable, must protect smol damaged bean" to fulfill your sick fujo fantasies
Sage for rant but I truly despise people like holly who are using fucking rape as a way to glorify the victim's trauma despite never having gone through such a life changing and degrading experience
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This aint a comic book, girl…
I second this.
But pls holly from the bottom of my heart please continue purgatory, I think it’s a great, quirky, funny human look at religion and philosophy and just like you rewrote it in college you gotta rewrite it and grow with it now. Look into Alan Watts and Zen and Bhagavad Gita and Taoism, whatever man but there’s more stuff you could incorporate into the world building and the characters. Art isn’t about the fuckin thiccness of the paint itself that’s what digital art tells us. Find something that you love again and turn it into some real shit that others can love too bro
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anon, if you really think holly is at all functionally literate after reading that google doc you really gotta get your own brain checked.
Israel is a country, Jerusalem is a city.
why is she so fucking stupid. bitch cna act like shes read up on religion and catholicism but doesn't even know that one of the main cities referenced in abrahamic texts is Jerusalem. Bitch, I'm an atheist and I know the difference.
Best quote: "Most storyboard artists doesn't do the backgrounds, like at all."
Take a guess why they don't, Holly.
Does she even know what a storyboard is ment to be?
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That poor puppy…
She probably thinks all German Shepards are well behaved, and end up complaining about it being a douche or pissing/biting stuff.
Or maybe she’s just in love with the aesthetic
of GS… that would mean she’d either cut the ears or doesn’t know that’s not their “normal” shape and proceed to complain about people selling her a fake dog.
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this is wayyy nitpicky but her logo infuriates me, what the fuck.
60% of hollys work can be made better by simply drawing a guide but she's just too arrogant/lazy to do so. like at least her fuckugly style could have correct perspective
Yeah you know what, you hit the point. She keeps saying that if you don’t like her stuff it’s because you don’t like her art style, but that’s totally not true.
It’s not about style, it’s about inconsistencies and poorly made stuff. One can like a style or not but if you suck it shows and that’s a fact. She just can’t accept that she’s not the inhuman skilled artist she tells herself to be, and hides behind the style mask just like every 14yo kid approaching to animes.
If her things were actually thought, and planned and she would be a little more humble, we wouldn’t be as harsh.
I follow tons of people that I’m not really into style wise but I like to see them progress, and lots of non skilled artists overcoming their difficulties actually warm my heart. So I’m not saying that if you suck you must die, it’s her attitude that’s pissing people, because she’s always on her high horse when she doesn’t have any right to talk down to other people.
She thinks she can just kim jung gi this shit out of her asshole, while trash talking pros and meme her way to success with her sob stories and patreon paid software
also, get a fucking crack for the programs you dumbass holly, or better yet just animate on the many resources available until you reach a level that warrants spending big bucks. TV paint to her is what copics are to jazza and baylee
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at least the rubes didn't come through
Plus animating in photoshop is very easy and in my opinion a great sowtwear if you're okay with animating around 200 frames at a time since the program begins to slow down at that point.
Hell, when I'm not at school which supplies photoshop to us, I draw all my animations in paint tool Sai and test out the animation flow in a free program called drawpile until I can go back to school and transfer the frames over into photoshop.
If you have passion and a strong enough intent you don't need the top of the line tools to accomplish the projects you want. Why can't she just make do with the already useful tools she has? It's not like the more expensive the program the easier it is to cut corners, you still have to create a great animation to create a great animation.
If she can't make a good enough animation without all these tricks she can pull off in the program she wants to buy then maybe she should learn how to animate and story board some more instead of wasting cash
Photoshop is not a good program to do a final thesis in animation on.
I understand why Holly wants to use TVpaint but I'm also pretty sure she has access to Flash.
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This was on Spechies new video
Slightly OT but I tried to watch the video but I noped out after the first minute>"I've never been officially diagnosed, but…">"If you're between 13 and 17 you're probably not depressed">tries to idiotsplain depression
Holly's response is pretty adequate.
god spechie is the worst. hollys comment actually not terrible here>>555705
I don't think she has her own thread but I see people complain about her all the time. Sure she's a favorite in the yt artists thread
Also sage goes in email field jsyk
I am actually surprised she does not have a thread. I accidentally found her one day and I could not understand why she is so popular. I tried to watch a few videos but it only confused me more. She is an adult yet acts like an edgy 13 year old, and her art is very underwhelming. I thought maybe she gained popularity because her stories were interesting, but I found her stories to be too try-hard and they always made her come across as a spoiled brat.
I just chalked it up to me being too old to understand kids these days.
Back on topic:
I'm glad I found this thread. I don't think Holly Brown is necessarily a bad person or anything, but before I found lolcow I thought I was the only one that didn't understand her appeal. Her art is just so bad yet she has art tutorials that, for some reason, have a lot of views and likes. I am trying to get back into drawing after not doing it for years, and it always annoyed me how Holly Brown and other bad artists kept getting recommended to me in my Youtube feed. I feel like an ass when I say someone's art is bad; I know making art can be difficult. But I'm sorry, her art is just not good, at least not good enough for her to be making art tutorials.
People keep saying they want a thread on her (and solarsands), but no one wants to make one.>>556009
I just always took at it stylized all caps, but looking at the letters that makes no sense lmao.
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i'm all for spechie becoming a cow. BRowns comment makes me sad, she reminds me of an (actually good) friend of mine who is very similar personality type but just has been called out well enough to not be a dickhead. it gives me hope that she could grow up a bit, as much as i don't want the milk to dry up
Hold up there cowboy I never said it was a masterpiece, but art is subjective and I can say it's good b/c it is something that expresses her own personality and sense of humor well.
Some of yall need to take a step back and focus less on her technical fuck ups, and more on the attitude. Girl can really draw from her imagination with a passion. It's just that the content that she has to work from, what her brain has consumed is middle school level at best. I'm less perplexed by her shitty stick figures than I am by the fact she's seemingly stayed the same exact person, consuming the same shit since high school/college and hasn't grown or developed her artwork along with her personality.
Anon, taste is subjective but beyond the technical skills her attitude is pretty bad too.
Also imo you can't really separate a comic from the technical aspects, writing, pacing, flow etc are important and if you can't convey your story properly it's a failed attempt. Most people express themselves in their comics but that doesn't make them good.
On the other hand, if she's genuinely gone through some rough shit as a child/teen when her being emotionally stunted is not that surprising, it's a common thing.
I understand what you mean, but there are thousands upon thousands of artists that are drawing from the imagination with the same passion that don't act the way she does.
I & others would criticize her and her mistakes far less harshly if she didn't repeatedly refer to herself as a professional and put down the habits/methods of other artists. In the end, I'd still much rather see her grow and learn than fail, but as of right now she's directly influencing others in a bad way
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Drug dealing brother,she sure is open about her family. This is from Tumblr.
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I agree with this anon and, I think her attitude is complete shit and she needs to be criticized for what she spews to her audience, but if we criticize her every attempt at the technical stuff, she’ll probably give up b/c she has a fragile ego..
her horse drawing for example, I think it’s great that she tried to draw a horse and all, but we all saw how messed up that looked, I criticized her rushed work with the stylization because that’s something we all know she likes to do.. the critique about the anatomy was correct, but should she really do studies or just think some happy thoughts and clean her room for a change? I know from experience it’s tough to get anatomy correct when I don’t have any emotional investment in the stuff I make. Could be different for others I’m just trying to get a discussion going. Also I don’t think she could be totally illiterate if she follows the thread. Inb4 lol hi holly
Sorry, but no. I'm not here to encourage Holly, she has enough hugbox echo chambers set up for that. I don't like her. I don't like her art, which is technically and objectively bad, and I don't like her personality, which is likewise terrible. This isn't a fucking self-improvement forum. If she gets better at art and advice I'm not going to wish her ill or anything, but I don't think her prognosis for improvement is good.
>Inb4 lol hi holly
Give yourself a little more credit, anon, I could understand what you wrote.
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Top art student here
I’m sorry to be that person but if you want to be a professional (and you claim to be one) you don’t give a fuck about personal investment. You need to train your hand and brain, focus and study as much as you can.
If you want to pursue art as a career “inspiration” and “‘moods” do not exist, unless you know you can sell whatever you want because you have a pillow to save your ass every time you fall.
Art as a job, especially in the industry (since she’s not one of those fine artists she shits on or introspective people) is no different than any other job. Once you have the skills you can draw in every condition.
She has a fragile ego? Well then maybe she should learn that other people might have it too and act accordingly, I don’t want to cuddle her and shield her from what’s wrong in her art, that’s exactly what she wants, probably why she left a real college, and what her whole huge fanbase keep doing.
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Well think about it, drugs are more supply and demand business especially if they live in a white trash/hood area and now rebellious millennials wanting to embarrass weed in Texas. You can find a weed dealer that sells $20 per gram of good quality (if lucky I've seen dealers that charge more).
The demand for weed in red states that wouldn't give a slap on the wrist if you get caught with it would drive a higher price. It's not a safe job but if you know what you are doing you can make $2000-$3000 a night which is more than Holly can make by doing art videos or selling ugly merch. Not a safe or desirable job, but people do drug dealing when they hit a low point and seen a good chunk come out of it.
From what we know of Holly has bought a washing machine for the family and that's it. The brother for all we know might actually be trying to helping out. In a broke as the family its better that your symbiotic relationship should be mutualism not parasitic.
sage for drug lecture no one cares about
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I really dont like it when I agree with Holly
Oh my fucking god lmao, I know people get desperate to trash flakes here but let's not pretend that being a drug dealer is a respectable career or better than being a YouTuber, or that her brother must contribute more to the family because he doesn't shitpost online (that we know of). >>557026>>557025
I agree with her but Holly is not the person I'd ask for advice on how to deal with depression either lmao. I wish people would stop thinking because they have large followings and experienced a Thing, they're qualified to give people advice on how to deal with The Thing.
I agree with her
But I find it ironic because if I remember correctly, Holly IS the kind of person that sorta utilizes the "just dont be sad" tactic or at the very least she does the "just bulldoze through negative feelings by upping my ego" tactic.
I always figured thats why she goes through those cycles of being overly optimistic, reckless, then loudly despressed.
Also this is Holly's reply to Spechie?
Holly is drawing what she sees which is fine but if she wants to get the kind of job in animation that she thinks she deserves Holly's going to have to push herself.
I hope that Holly does some actual studying instead of this kind of rushing through of these assignments. She's really missing the elements of life drawing by not paying attention to the model.
>>557007>The problem is that she's careless with money, not that she makes money from her art.
If we are to believe what Holly said in >>556492
then it sounds like Holly is the one supporting her family. So there's no way she's rolling in cash if her family is bleeding her dry
I don't like Holly as a person but I have seen how toxic families work
Family comes first not the mortality of addicts sadly.
Never said it was a respectable job but a very risky outlet to make ends meet. Honestly, both Holly and her brother should be working part-time jobs to help a family crisis instead of choosing two bad "careers". So I have strong doubts that a shitty artist youtuber selling potatoes faced merch can make enough money to support her dysfunctional family when she openly said that she makes less than minimum wage.
I think there are a few people here in denial about how much cash Holly makes off her merch sales and YTbucks.
I heard er say 50k a year. That's a lot of spending money for someone who still lives with their parents.
Holly also complains about how "poor" she is but I don't really think she knows what that means. Holly seems to think not being able to buy whatever you want whenever you want = poor
I think she was making that before the youtube demonetization thing and when she was at peak popularity (her vids don't do too great now).
If all she has to buy is food and rent to a parent there is tons of room to blow cash. It's not like she'd pay for internet, gas, utilities, insurance, etc. And when you don't have to worry about that stuff, there is little incentive to save.
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Ready for her tutorials?
wtf she's going on about how characters falling out with eachother/character conflicts are a character trope… no, it's a compication. ya know, the thing that makes up the body of a majority of stories and then there's a resolution at the end. That's like how 99% of stories play out.
you'd know that holly, if you were a good story teller at all.
1 she doesn’t have a life in real life
2 chances are she never had friends
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As a student who has done storyboarding, that doesn't seem like an overload of work for one day….And illustrations? What? That's why it's taking her so fucking long lmao
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Pro artist, guys!
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You guys forgot this beautiful gem. Holly fixed his eyes.
I can't settle down to go to sleep after reading this I'm just chortling away thinking about Holly slaving away over steamed ham thanks anon
saged for zero contribution
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Oh man…Anyone want an art book filled with wonky anatomy and ugly faces?
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Why you gotta break everyone's legs though???
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I just dont get this print. Is he climbing the fence? Why would i buy a print of a characrters back and a broken leg?
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Just as a reference, here's what the character on the right is actually supposed to look like.
WTF is wrong with Faye? She looks like a scarecrow.
The whole pose doesn't work, the fence is wrong AF and if you're going to represent characters from behind it has to be for strict and powerful symbolism or special effects, holly.
It's even okay that you are refusing on drawing what's popular because you're obviously the only one who likes "old" cartoons (CBebop is not even that old, btw) but at least make it appealing.
You chose to picture two characters, one of them has a strong sex appeal and would be an easy buy for random teenagers that only ask for 2d cleavage and a nice face but NO of course let's break her spine and give her a flat ass.
I would NEVER buy a print like this.
This is beyond terrible
his hair is too flat, his arms are cut and go through the fence
wtf is that leg?
why does she make that stupid tiny heel on every shoe?
Faye looks like a little girl with no ass
So sloppy fml
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Tbf spike DOES have “heels”. Pretty much every kind of shoe that’s not totally flat (à la converse) has some sort of heel, they just have different shapes and heights so sometimes it’s almost unnoticeable.
So it’s just Holly that for the 100000 time failed to understand how shoes work.
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Friendly reminder that this monstrosity came out at the same time she “lectured” people about bad anatomy and all the mistakes “young artists” do. The monster hand, those ridiculous titties…
The way that it's cut makes me itchy.>>558714
I seriously think this is the worst-looking thing she's drawn recently, it's just so broken lmao. I thought she might at least fix some things from the sketch, but I guess if you put down a mark that's it, no changes.
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i wonder how this would go…
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jk, she made an adjustment and added more colors…Wow, I wish I had all that extra time she has
At least she's not in the zine this time. I kinda like to think that she was rejected from the FMA zine so like a petulant child she stomps her foot and goes, "Fine!! I'll make my own zine and you guys can't join!!"
Little does she know that organizing a zine requires good organizational skills as well as professionalism, neither of which she has any of.
It does sound fun though, might take a crack at it even if I don't get in to her zine.
Question, do you think anyone at a higher skill level than she is would join? I'm not entirely sure how zines work but if they get paid per zine sold there might be a few. Would…Holly be paying them? Forgive my lack of zine knowledge, I've never participates in one.
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I gotta admit the bunny one would look cute, if the bunny didnt look like it would wanna murder you. Also, this comic has like what…2 chapters??? What's with all the merch
lopsided charms. goody. I'm sure those'll sell like hotcakes.>>559477
pretty sure she did the same thing regarding the YouTube artist collective, it was zodiac themed and she shit on the group just bc she wasnt in it, then proceeded to ramble about how stupid astrology was and that she "never wanted to be in their stupid group anyways"…while she painted her fuckin astrology symbol lmao. so yeah she is being a petulant child here.>>559467
These are some puke ass colors. yknow what. go ahead and make another project, Holly BRown. can't wait to see you manage a billion email submissions, judging the art, managing artists, the printing of the book and the distribution of the money!
linking into the wrong thread.
wew lad, u nu here?
That character was never actually introduced in the comic yet but he seems to be a ‘fan favorite’.
Still, I’m kinda glad Holly is actually starting to work on convention merch instead of just screwing around with other projects.
Why is there a no transmission screen if te tv is linked to a pc? Wouldn’t it be better a blue screen? I find this quite confusing>>559477
Yeah it was my first thought as well. The timing is perfect.
Poor thing doesn’t know that organising projects with lots of artists take more time than working solo and that the responsibility of checking wips, advertising campaign, proper graphics and stuff require A LOT of times. I’ve personally seen people dropping the participation on a zine (so “just” doing the illustration and avatar) because they had strict deadlines with school and/or work, and yet she decides to push the ORGANIZATION of a fanzine between her pilot episode of CK, an Hamilton book, paranormal plague, purgatory, con merch, YouTube and countless new projects?
Lol so delusional. It will either never sail or fail miserably.
Just accept you got rejected for the fucking zine, Holly.
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anything to keep from paying people actual money, eh holly?
Firstly a zine shouldn’t be a heavy book. Secondly, get a EU distributor - plenty of people would be willing to help out on a zine I’m sure, and I’ve seen a lot of people do it this way.
Also when books open for order then charge international shipping?? Like the costs can be covered. She’s either trying to scam people or she’s just thick as pig shit.
So she says that the contributors get the copies that they can sell and this will be their payment?
In other words: the contributors MUST be the distributors in order to get their money?
Or am i just tinfoiling?
That color palette looks really gross in comparison, the last few hues clash so badly. >>559840
I don't think she knows. She probably plans on printing them all at home again instead of doing the reasonable thing and getting a distributor.
That’s not true, she can be really picky and harsh when it comes to other people. She somehow fails to be that harsh and evolve on her own art, but she bashed professionals, she’s not going to accept stuff that’s not on par with her level, and to her, her level is really high.
If some people would make the same mistakes as her, she would just discard their applications, I’m pretty sure of that.
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Lel, charity to the poor Holly BRown, of course.
I don’t know maybe she could give for something she’s experienced, like help lines for depression or stuff?
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Sorry this is old, but it really made me laugh. Yes I can see how she could pass as a troll channel, especially considering that in a video talking about color theory she fucked her colors so bad she had to adjust them in premiere making her arm look ORANGE>>559907
Yeah but you’re supposed to love PP because she says it’s great. It works with her fans, so she will maybe sell a couple or charms at the con.
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1 minute after I post this Holly fixes it.
She definitely browses here.
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Also she's misspelled "palette" in every possible instance of the word. This is the "pallet" she's referring to. But of course such an advanced, esteemed artist would never make such a mistake….
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She really doesnt want to go outside does she…
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I didn't even know they sold this thing anymore, lmao. Just get a fucking eliptical Holly.
This is the snake-oil of fitness equipments.
But i might be wrong… i'm not a pro like her.
Damn I felt stupid and deleted my response before I saw yours. Sorry bout that.
Is anyone else pumped for the zeeeeen? I can’t wait to see what Holly thinks is good enough to put her name to when it’s not her own work. She’s so damn critical and doesn’t play well with others. I have a feeling this is going to be delicious.
Current list of her projects:
>Purgatory comic >Paranormal comic>Animatics (Hamilton)>Clever Kitchen animation>Fan-Zine>School work>Convention prep>YouTube videos>Comissions
Am I missing anything? She’s also trying to lose weight, put together illustrations for her portfolio, and girl needs to sort her room out cause it’s a cluster fuck.
150 seems more like an artbook, not a zine. >>560600
Proof or it didn't happen anon
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And for years I thought the elliptical was the worst cardio machine in the world.>no resistance>just flawing your legs with no glute or core activation>looks like something uses to aid physical therapy for the elderly>too fat and lazy to go outside or buy a treadmill or static bike>There are $10 monthly gym memberships that open 24/7
I'm starting to think a lot of female artists are pretty stupid with sports medicine
This also bothered me more than it maybe should have lmao, it's not even like the original title is barely used in the West like FMA.
I think her method of compensation seems fair though.
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wtf is she in kindergarten
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I can imagine all the complaining and then not touching that program for a year