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Most well known for her cal-arts rant, where she bitches about how hard it is to get in while claiming to have gotten in. Also known for giving shitty advice to impressionable beginners.https://www.youtube.com/user/hollyistotallycoolhttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgeEynuhGskPjgNR5DjbZmwhttps://www.instagram.com/h.c.brown/https://twitter.com/HCBrownart
Mirror of aforementioned Cal-Arts rant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvnD-9XOs5k
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>21 year old "freelancer" (lives at home with her mother and runs an online shop selling ugly art)>Salty Youtube fujoshi artist that claims that her art is superior because she went to art school>Constantly preaches that art takes hard work, claims to always practice and study but her art hasn't improved in over two years>Whines about being a starving artist with no money, yet has enough money to buy a new Mac computer and a Cintiq tablet within the same week, then sold said cintiq because she got sponsored for her shitty shitty art>When faced with genuine criticism, she replies with "it's my style hurrr get over it!!">Whines about nobody buying from her online store, but when people do, she whines about having to package and ship off her items >Pandering to the Musicals crowd to get more Youtube $$$>Claims to be the only non tumblrina artist and is a textbook tumblr fujo>Generally insufferable and shitty person
In the previous thread:>Holly backtracks on her animation goals and starts the 100 days of making comics challenge>Her lack of tact massively backfires on her as people get pissed about her constantly shitting on everyone>Holly BALEETS most of her videos and posts two rants about how she's "Done with the drama" and "won't say anything again ever">Opens commissions to make money instead>Deletes those videos too and decides to just go back her regular video and abandon any critical thinking altogether
Is Holly literally autistic, or have the years of being a shut-in just eroded her social skills? Will she ever stop deleting negative comments? Let's find out.
Previous thread: >>>>>>/snow/527029
How's she even doing on that 100 days of comics challenge since she's been doing mainly animating and storyboard shit for the past few weeks, did she drop the ball on that again?
Jfc that’s on point
Really puts all of Brown’s bull shit into perspective. What a mess lol
Aside from one guy claiming to have known her and someone else venting it was probs just some attention seeking anons.
Right now she tweeted bout some spam on her youtube or whatever. My guess is she's going to be focusing on this whole printer mishap for a little while.
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Looks like some painful landing there
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I'm making a Holly art bingo, anyone have any more suggestions on what to add?
this maybe: >>537503
and " "hands" ".
I kekked so hard>>551295
He looks like he's flailing his arms in a fit while trying to breakdance and breaking his feet in the process
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funny example imo
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how the fuck does that even work
(also im sorry for the shitty edit, im no atist but i wanted to atleast find a way for it to work?)
How in the fuck is that camera being held
Also really excited for this bingo
I'll upload it tomorrow since I have to sift for examples.
And I'm already too tired so I'm heading to bed.
I know shoes are very very tricky to get because they're so many kinds and the surface is not uniform so it's hard to get it right without getting close to tracing sometimes. But Holly seems to have discovered the "sole facing forward" side and gone "Wow I'm so smart. Two shapes, boom, a shoe. Never gonna use anything else ever again.">>551371
I want to add : Redraws that are somehow worse than the original (ie her purgatory comic) and failed foreshortening
Maybe the grid should be smaller?
My contribution to the bingo, though:
- Fucked up perspective
- Obvious traced part of the art
- "Where the fuck is the light source" shading
Holly always tries to emulate the line quality/flow of professional animators, but fails to realize that you have to be able to draw accurately before you draw fast. >>551371
I wish we could add the word "PROFESSIONAL", but I guess that's not exactly the contents of her art lmao.
Definitely add hands though.
love how she just left like 40 seconds of empty video so it'd be over 10 minutes lol>>551371
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Of course our Holly had to participate in this meme.
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I know she’s got that curly as fuck hair but does she ever brush it?
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Updated. Two slots remain.
empty backgrounds (no other people ever exist ever)
that same long face
I’m loving this so much it’s unhealthy.
Another art topic…. mmm “my new equipment is better than yours”? There’s the soulless cats she draws but they’re not really common… all of her animals are really laughable. Something about the lettering or her perfect layouts?
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Why does this look bad??? It still has the art lean
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Cause basic perspective lines are totes unnecessary
How can’t she see how wonky this is? It doesn’t matter how many details she adds. The foundations are fucked. Even the line of windows is slanted, they get smaller to the right.
Holly for fucks sake, use references from real life!
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This is what she’s trying to recreate.
lmaoo this has to be the best re-drawing>>552027>>552037
lmfao Holly's colors are so ugly
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I kinda like the old version better lol
Ofc, they're both as equally wonky as fuck, but here's more stylization in the old one that makes it more interesting to look at.
I agree with you, anon.
I honestly don't know how Holly calls this progress
Brushing it alone will look dull, flat, and ruin the beachy waves. God forbid if she did that with short hair she would have the dutch boy hairstyle
What she needs a good cut that goes with her face shape, no tumblr coloring bullshit, use a shampoo and conditioner that sulfate free, no additional product since this could weight the hair down and cause acne, blow-dry with diffuser on hot then blast with cold after showering, and optional invest in a silk pillowcase to prevent any frizz.
Source: eurofag with the same hair type
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so many things wrong with this drawing
I laugh so hard because she really bought a batch of HtDM recently.>>55231
Again her mentality that owning/buying something will make you a professional. Now she’s gonna have a degree and be able to be the shitty teacher jealous of other people’s talent she hated in high school. She just can’t seem to understand that she needs to practice while actively thinking of what she’s doing instead of spending on programs and tools.>>552126
Loving the bent thumb! But as someone suggested, this is way too detailed and complex, she would have at max some paw hands under the camera. My guess is he just got mutilated for that panel, they look like broken wrists or he’s handless.>>552037
Ahahah all of the proportions are wrong in her picture. It was also idiotic to use the previous version as a base just to save some details. If you don’t want to redraw it, don’t. It’s simple. She focuses on details instead of the big picture/ mass allocation. I see a pattern. I still can’t believe that amateurish (at best) as she is, she is still perceived as a goddess and professional by her subs. Sure, that’s because she claims to be a professional herself, but everybody with eyes and a working brain could call it bullshit.
Also guys it’s bothering me to no end that she made the video crying about people who said she should die, and then says everybody who uses mc leod’s music should kill themselves. It’s really, really bothering me that nobody’s calling her out on this just because she’s funny and hhhhhhhhonest
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So curious now of what she received. Any thoughts?
I always unironically enjoy her old building drawings.
Yes they're wonky but I think it's such an interesting style and you can tell she had fun making them.
Her 'improved' version is tragic though what a bloody shame. Digital art and those thin lines do her no favours.
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In re-drawing that she did i typed "where is it?", but i deleted because i feel guilty.
What kind of clueless boomer mom does holly have? She's already making YouTube bux and is wayyyyyy more monetarily successful than her art warrants. For her level of skill, she's already "made it".
Holly is throwing money in the toilet with this dumb online art school.
This comment sounds kinda kiss ass and….
Holly dat you?
Honestly I doubt she makes enough to support herself if she lived alone. ESPECIALLY with all the bullshit she buys. Whose to say she's not spending college loans on all her dumb shit. Also, how does her ass not drive already? I feel bad for her mom. She seems like a burden besides the fact she bought her mom a washer & dryer
Anyone check her YouTube social blade?
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>>552538>Implying YT is a stable, long term career>Implying having 200k subs gives you "YouTube bux"
top fucking kek >>552552
…Why don't you check it?
She's not making that much according to their predictions. It's probably a bit off since she deleted so many videos though.
No I am not Holly. I just know of a lot of boomer parents who force their kids to go to college because they've been taught it's the only option for success.
Also I'm not saying Holly is rich, or that she is self sufficient. I am saying she got super fucking lucky and is making decent money with art that is worth next to nothing.
If holly wasn't blessed by the YouTube gods she would be making 20 dollars a month from random Tumblr commissions. She makes around 50k a year. Way more than her art deserves.
Yeah. Checked it right after I posted that lel
But yeah YouTubes not stable unless you're consistently putting out good content and you're not sabotaging yourself.
I predict holly will fuck herself bad at one point by being he hateful backtracking goblin she is
I remember she made a video once semi-humble-bragging about it. It was her YT revenue combined with her merchandise sales. This was a whole back, though. She definitely doesn't upload as frequently anymore and I think her viral videos lost a lot of steam.
That and she may have been embellishing her actual income.
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Art cutting is not as serious an art as drawing you guys. Drawing takes years to master!!! Anyone can take a ruler and scissors and cut paper okay it's so easy and worthless in comparison.
This girl makes my chest tight.
She showed examples of paper cutting when she was bitching about it. More simple cutting, but still.
But maybe I misunderstood. Although based on what she was saying she'd probably argue this too. Because omg drawing is the only real difficult form of art.
Oh jesus its Spechie, how did I not make the comparison between Spechie and Holly.
Spechie honestly deserves her own thread if she doesn't already have one. She's A LOT like Holly but less loud about it.
I think one of the most noteable things about her is that she once got in trouble at her school for talking shit about a girl there. Then she got somewhat of a following and started acting like a diva, including treating some friends like shit, cause she was convinced people were trying to get at her "youtube fame"
Now that I think about it, if you put these two in the same room I wonder if they'll get along and be awful together or if they'll talk shit behind each other's back.
I'm very interested now. Never heard of her before and that first video I just watched was definitely off-putting.
Can someone please make one of her?
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I dont think it works like that…
You've got to be kidding me.
Becoming vegetarian =/= Automatically losing weight.
Haha. Ha. It doesn't work like that.
I have a feeling that Holly would be the type to forget that you have to supplement nutrients when you go vegetarian. She seems like the type who'd eat nothing but potato chips for a week and wonder why she almost passes out every time she stands up.
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Money from comissions?? Did she even finish those??
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Omg…PLEASE don't ruin his art. Im guessing she's already trying to do studies of his pieces without even trying to "study"
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Ok I finally finished it.
So she basically took the original leaning bath house, and then like…drew OVER it as a guide instead of starting from scratch with the proper foundation? LOL. And oh my GOD she's drawing all the small details first before getting the building's proportions and main foundation down…She always does things half-assed-backwards.
>my art used to lean to one sideused to
? It still fuckin leans.
>Holly gatekeeping what a 'challenge' is again.
Stfu, Holly. Just. Shut up.
Holy shit no wonder she gets perspective so wrong. She just copy pastes parallel planes with no care about the vanashing point or horizon line.
How hard it is to use the built in perspective tools?
On posting studies:
>It's not that I don't do it at all, it's just not important to me.
Stop trying to cover up the fact you don't do studies, Holly, we know you don't think your foundations are important. You post the same 5 studies of those wonky as skulls/heads over and over again. You're not fooling anyone.
>don't draw everything with full brightness and stuff>proceeds to overuse 'overlay'.
As a former sort of
fan of hers I bought shit from her and I can say she does pack them well by putting the prints into some sort of cardboard and if you have a big print she'd ship it separately to avoid damages. Her prints are fine as far as quality goes I guess but the art is shitty ofc. I bought a handmade sketchbook which is the worst thing to ever exist since the cut isn't straight on the edges and the binding broke and its just fucking small. Yeah I regret my purchases.
y'know actually the broken spine and shitty book isn't a surprise to me considering how she tutorialed covering a hard back sketch book.
It was so damn sloppy and I could practically see all the cat hairs stuck to the contact paper. she dropped the book on her lap because she forgot Gravity is a thing and that shit made me cringe.
Why on earth would she give a "tutorial" with the book flopping everywhere and not on a flat surface is beyond me.
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Also wtf is she talking about, her style has been the same for fucking years
Nah they're very different people, with different kinds of bad art lol.
been making those duck-lipped mice for like 8 years now lmao literally nothing has changed about terri's art.
But she and rebecca asspat holly all the time.
Instant bingo every time she uploads tbh>>553087
I almost laughed out loud when she did the texture on the front of the building and didn't even transform it into perspective, just rotated it.
Also I can't fucking wait for her "how to cure art lean" video, where all of her examples still lean.
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She retweeted this. As if she knows any animation principle.
Holly would benefit from learning from the principles and foundations of animation since she’s so gung-ho about making a pilot.
I think we can all tell that she’s never actually studied animation before which is really frustrating. Just doing a bouncing ball or a pendulum would help Holly so much. It wouldn’t even take very long.
You can probably make a safe bet that she hasn't done ONE bouncing ball or pendulum study. She just went right in with the characters, and clearly she isn't serious or done studies, because she's just "moving her drawings
" not "animating her characters
In all seriousness, she's the kind of person who'll become irrelevant when it comes to e-fame. It's kind of already happening. Every time she sees a slip in attention she does some shitty stunt to keep people looking.
I feel like people outgrow her. And they realize sooner or later she's never focused on any ONE of her projects at a time. Like, she's always jumping around and begging for money so she can fuel her shopping addiction.
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ah yes, shit on the con you are atending
I'm suffering from sceond hand embarrassment just reading this lmao, oh my god. Also>its was so cool of them to be Holly BRown
This is a native English speaker.
Isn’t the literal meaning of what she said be like “they enjoyed being Holly BRown”? Like, I had to go and like adapting in my mind what she could mean, that’s “how cool of them to call me Holly BRown” but the more I look at that sentence the less I can understand how is that a native, honest.
I mean, I’m not native and I can spot EVERY error she makes.
Lol she was in such a rush to call an error out that she didn't stop to think for a second that maybe she was rushing to apply that she didn't proofread her own name.
But, nah, Holly BRown doesn't make mistakes lmao my sides. She's probably going to be a nightmare to work with, I already feel for the con staff or whoever is going to have to deal with her.
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>>553526>Instant bingo every time she uploads tbh>every time she uploads
why do you follow her?
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Is she really gonna go with this….could go spend time on her animation than rather waste time as usual. sigh
Lmao what a dick. This is how you alienate yourself and appear unfriendly and unapproachable.
This is not how you further your career.
No professional is going to see her acting like this and think, "hm, yeah I'd like to work with holly brown!"
What a bitch.
There are already 600 page sketchbooks on sale at amazon but they don't have Holly's trademark "sketchbook slam challenge" written on them.
Those sketchbooks are hardcover, too. I don't know why holly thinks there is a market for these in paperback for even more money.
fuck me, that cover design looks like something outta highschooler gossip magazines from 2001. the text is so small and if that thing is going to be on a rack nobody will even see it.
hey holly, just go on pinterest or youtube and search graphic design. there's more to it than just choosing a curly font and some pastels. i beg you…
Well yes at this point a territorial pissing is “nesissary”, Holly. Just keep in mind your typos and errors are way worse than a misplaced h.>>554190
She’s salty because people are “making profit out of her ideas”. Which is not that genius and as already said it’s not like she has trademark over big sketchbooks which she didn’t even make herself for her challenge.
God why is she so salty? Most of the challenges on YT never credit the original author…
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Here she goes again, the girl who always talks about cheating and that refuses to use lazo, pen tools and fill buckets.
Does she forget about the crap she says or she’s just that stupid?
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Pic related translates to: “my self proclaimed deadline is approaching and I’ve done basically nothing so here’s some quick and poorly made color keys to show you that if I’m not meeting my goals is just because I’m working ahead and so devoted to the project. I’m totally not fucking around wasting time over useless stuff, I’m late because of these three studies! I swear!”
We know how you move, you dumbass. You rarely make it into deadlines, and always find excuses and lie about how you work.
Sorry full pic incoming, but it’s new material so I’m not saging
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Full picture. Everything is so wonky and the perspective is so off. I understand that color keys just sets the atmosphere but she didn’t have to detail stuff and make it complicated. She somehow still can’t understands that She should work smart and focus on some basic shapes before adding details.
I mean, she could lean - hah- into it and make it a design choice if she was willing to work on it.
I really like the crooked backgrounds and faces in some of the Disney series like the Tangled and hotel Transylvania TV series, for example, skewed perspectives add s lot of character.
I mean obviously the designers of those started from knowing correct perspective and also how to skew things so they look good, neither of which Holly has yet. At the moment she seems to be trying to make it realistic and ending up slanting everything left. But just from a style pov, if she could be bothered, something like that might work for her story. But she still has to start by learning to do it right.
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I have a pitch document for purgatory for some reason? I have no clue what this is or how I got it. But this is my favourite section.
Jfc how many sets is her "animation" going to take place in? and why is that middle panel curved lIke that?
You know if Holly was smart, she could actually easily get away with making those scenes the final illustrations for her course. but nah she's a dumb bitch. she emphasizes "hard work" on like all the wrong shit.
Christ. Reading a document written by Holly just highlights how piss-poor her grammar is. I'm not sure if there's a correct sentence in this document. Her attempts at being "philosophical" or "highbrow" are so fucking laughable. She says she wrote Purgatory in high school, and it's obvious that she didn't actually put any thought into it at all. She rambles about the plot and her influences, but there's barely any substance to the plot at all? Like, you can't write a story that's a critique of religion in which religion heavily features without laying out the tenets of that religion
? We all know Holly doesn't into worldbuilding because it's "a waste of time," but maybe a little bit of worldbuilding would make it easier to keep up with a project for more than the first chapter, you idiot.
Sorry for sperging but poor writing makes me so angry. The idea of a world where the major power is an occult/pagan "church" that functions in a similar way to Christianity in our world could be such an interesting thing to explore, but no, for Holly it has to be "bweeeeh religion baaaad hhhhhnnnn underage rape scene". No substance at all. I'm so angry.
>>554604>Simon gets raped because rape is a result of religious extremism>"I recommend sorta watching videos about the effects of Dante's inferno, not actually reading the long book"
What I get from this is that Holly has a poor understanding of both philosophy and religion, and honestly that explains a lot.
Fuck, that part about why she wanted to include the rape part felt so half assed and awkward. She didn't even try to use different wordings so that it wouldn't come off so strong, but nope, she just went right in and said that she wanted to include the kid getting raped since it's a prominent aspect that surrounds catholic churches.
Christ, this just comes off as fujo shit so bad where alot of stupid yaoi plots are just the main guy getting raped and the love interest justifying it and shit.
Reading this document makes me sick, there's better ways to actually deal with these kinds of issues, don't just put it in as a plot device to mame the main character seem "uwu so vulnerable, must protect smol damaged bean" to fulfill your sick fujo fantasies
Sage for rant but I truly despise people like holly who are using fucking rape as a way to glorify the victim's trauma despite never having gone through such a life changing and degrading experience
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This aint a comic book, girl…
I second this.
But pls holly from the bottom of my heart please continue purgatory, I think it’s a great, quirky, funny human look at religion and philosophy and just like you rewrote it in college you gotta rewrite it and grow with it now. Look into Alan Watts and Zen and Bhagavad Gita and Taoism, whatever man but there’s more stuff you could incorporate into the world building and the characters. Art isn’t about the fuckin thiccness of the paint itself that’s what digital art tells us. Find something that you love again and turn it into some real shit that others can love too bro
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anon, if you really think holly is at all functionally literate after reading that google doc you really gotta get your own brain checked.
Israel is a country, Jerusalem is a city.
why is she so fucking stupid. bitch cna act like shes read up on religion and catholicism but doesn't even know that one of the main cities referenced in abrahamic texts is Jerusalem. Bitch, I'm an atheist and I know the difference.
Best quote: "Most storyboard artists doesn't do the backgrounds, like at all."
Take a guess why they don't, Holly.
Does she even know what a storyboard is ment to be?
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That poor puppy…
She probably thinks all German Shepards are well behaved, and end up complaining about it being a douche or pissing/biting stuff.
Or maybe she’s just in love with the aesthetic
of GS… that would mean she’d either cut the ears or doesn’t know that’s not their “normal” shape and proceed to complain about people selling her a fake dog.
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this is wayyy nitpicky but her logo infuriates me, what the fuck.
60% of hollys work can be made better by simply drawing a guide but she's just too arrogant/lazy to do so. like at least her fuckugly style could have correct perspective
Yeah you know what, you hit the point. She keeps saying that if you don’t like her stuff it’s because you don’t like her art style, but that’s totally not true.
It’s not about style, it’s about inconsistencies and poorly made stuff. One can like a style or not but if you suck it shows and that’s a fact. She just can’t accept that she’s not the inhuman skilled artist she tells herself to be, and hides behind the style mask just like every 14yo kid approaching to animes.
If her things were actually thought, and planned and she would be a little more humble, we wouldn’t be as harsh.
I follow tons of people that I’m not really into style wise but I like to see them progress, and lots of non skilled artists overcoming their difficulties actually warm my heart. So I’m not saying that if you suck you must die, it’s her attitude that’s pissing people, because she’s always on her high horse when she doesn’t have any right to talk down to other people.
She thinks she can just kim jung gi this shit out of her asshole, while trash talking pros and meme her way to success with her sob stories and patreon paid software
also, get a fucking crack for the programs you dumbass holly, or better yet just animate on the many resources available until you reach a level that warrants spending big bucks. TV paint to her is what copics are to jazza and baylee
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at least the rubes didn't come through
Plus animating in photoshop is very easy and in my opinion a great sowtwear if you're okay with animating around 200 frames at a time since the program begins to slow down at that point.
Hell, when I'm not at school which supplies photoshop to us, I draw all my animations in paint tool Sai and test out the animation flow in a free program called drawpile until I can go back to school and transfer the frames over into photoshop.
If you have passion and a strong enough intent you don't need the top of the line tools to accomplish the projects you want. Why can't she just make do with the already useful tools she has? It's not like the more expensive the program the easier it is to cut corners, you still have to create a great animation to create a great animation.
If she can't make a good enough animation without all these tricks she can pull off in the program she wants to buy then maybe she should learn how to animate and story board some more instead of wasting cash
Photoshop is not a good program to do a final thesis in animation on.
I understand why Holly wants to use TVpaint but I'm also pretty sure she has access to Flash.
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This was on Spechies new video
Slightly OT but I tried to watch the video but I noped out after the first minute>"I've never been officially diagnosed, but…">"If you're between 13 and 17 you're probably not depressed">tries to idiotsplain depression
Holly's response is pretty adequate.
god spechie is the worst. hollys comment actually not terrible here>>555705
I don't think she has her own thread but I see people complain about her all the time. Sure she's a favorite in the yt artists thread
Also sage goes in email field jsyk
I am actually surprised she does not have a thread. I accidentally found her one day and I could not understand why she is so popular. I tried to watch a few videos but it only confused me more. She is an adult yet acts like an edgy 13 year old, and her art is very underwhelming. I thought maybe she gained popularity because her stories were interesting, but I found her stories to be too try-hard and they always made her come across as a spoiled brat.
I just chalked it up to me being too old to understand kids these days.
Back on topic:
I'm glad I found this thread. I don't think Holly Brown is necessarily a bad person or anything, but before I found lolcow I thought I was the only one that didn't understand her appeal. Her art is just so bad yet she has art tutorials that, for some reason, have a lot of views and likes. I am trying to get back into drawing after not doing it for years, and it always annoyed me how Holly Brown and other bad artists kept getting recommended to me in my Youtube feed. I feel like an ass when I say someone's art is bad; I know making art can be difficult. But I'm sorry, her art is just not good, at least not good enough for her to be making art tutorials.
People keep saying they want a thread on her (and solarsands), but no one wants to make one.>>556009
I just always took at it stylized all caps, but looking at the letters that makes no sense lmao.
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i'm all for spechie becoming a cow. BRowns comment makes me sad, she reminds me of an (actually good) friend of mine who is very similar personality type but just has been called out well enough to not be a dickhead. it gives me hope that she could grow up a bit, as much as i don't want the milk to dry up
Hold up there cowboy I never said it was a masterpiece, but art is subjective and I can say it's good b/c it is something that expresses her own personality and sense of humor well.
Some of yall need to take a step back and focus less on her technical fuck ups, and more on the attitude. Girl can really draw from her imagination with a passion. It's just that the content that she has to work from, what her brain has consumed is middle school level at best. I'm less perplexed by her shitty stick figures than I am by the fact she's seemingly stayed the same exact person, consuming the same shit since high school/college and hasn't grown or developed her artwork along with her personality.
Anon, taste is subjective but beyond the technical skills her attitude is pretty bad too.
Also imo you can't really separate a comic from the technical aspects, writing, pacing, flow etc are important and if you can't convey your story properly it's a failed attempt. Most people express themselves in their comics but that doesn't make them good.
On the other hand, if she's genuinely gone through some rough shit as a child/teen when her being emotionally stunted is not that surprising, it's a common thing.
I understand what you mean, but there are thousands upon thousands of artists that are drawing from the imagination with the same passion that don't act the way she does.
I & others would criticize her and her mistakes far less harshly if she didn't repeatedly refer to herself as a professional and put down the habits/methods of other artists. In the end, I'd still much rather see her grow and learn than fail, but as of right now she's directly influencing others in a bad way
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Drug dealing brother,she sure is open about her family. This is from Tumblr.
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I agree with this anon and, I think her attitude is complete shit and she needs to be criticized for what she spews to her audience, but if we criticize her every attempt at the technical stuff, she’ll probably give up b/c she has a fragile ego..
her horse drawing for example, I think it’s great that she tried to draw a horse and all, but we all saw how messed up that looked, I criticized her rushed work with the stylization because that’s something we all know she likes to do.. the critique about the anatomy was correct, but should she really do studies or just think some happy thoughts and clean her room for a change? I know from experience it’s tough to get anatomy correct when I don’t have any emotional investment in the stuff I make. Could be different for others I’m just trying to get a discussion going. Also I don’t think she could be totally illiterate if she follows the thread. Inb4 lol hi holly
Sorry, but no. I'm not here to encourage Holly, she has enough hugbox echo chambers set up for that. I don't like her. I don't like her art, which is technically and objectively bad, and I don't like her personality, which is likewise terrible. This isn't a fucking self-improvement forum. If she gets better at art and advice I'm not going to wish her ill or anything, but I don't think her prognosis for improvement is good.
>Inb4 lol hi holly
Give yourself a little more credit, anon, I could understand what you wrote.
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Top art student here
I’m sorry to be that person but if you want to be a professional (and you claim to be one) you don’t give a fuck about personal investment. You need to train your hand and brain, focus and study as much as you can.
If you want to pursue art as a career “inspiration” and “‘moods” do not exist, unless you know you can sell whatever you want because you have a pillow to save your ass every time you fall.
Art as a job, especially in the industry (since she’s not one of those fine artists she shits on or introspective people) is no different than any other job. Once you have the skills you can draw in every condition.
She has a fragile ego? Well then maybe she should learn that other people might have it too and act accordingly, I don’t want to cuddle her and shield her from what’s wrong in her art, that’s exactly what she wants, probably why she left a real college, and what her whole huge fanbase keep doing.
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Well think about it, drugs are more supply and demand business especially if they live in a white trash/hood area and now rebellious millennials wanting to embarrass weed in Texas. You can find a weed dealer that sells $20 per gram of good quality (if lucky I've seen dealers that charge more).
The demand for weed in red states that wouldn't give a slap on the wrist if you get caught with it would drive a higher price. It's not a safe job but if you know what you are doing you can make $2000-$3000 a night which is more than Holly can make by doing art videos or selling ugly merch. Not a safe or desirable job, but people do drug dealing when they hit a low point and seen a good chunk come out of it.
From what we know of Holly has bought a washing machine for the family and that's it. The brother for all we know might actually be trying to helping out. In a broke as the family its better that your symbiotic relationship should be mutualism not parasitic.
sage for drug lecture no one cares about
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I really dont like it when I agree with Holly
Oh my fucking god lmao, I know people get desperate to trash flakes here but let's not pretend that being a drug dealer is a respectable career or better than being a YouTuber, or that her brother must contribute more to the family because he doesn't shitpost online (that we know of). >>557026>>557025
I agree with her but Holly is not the person I'd ask for advice on how to deal with depression either lmao. I wish people would stop thinking because they have large followings and experienced a Thing, they're qualified to give people advice on how to deal with The Thing.
I agree with her
But I find it ironic because if I remember correctly, Holly IS the kind of person that sorta utilizes the "just dont be sad" tactic or at the very least she does the "just bulldoze through negative feelings by upping my ego" tactic.
I always figured thats why she goes through those cycles of being overly optimistic, reckless, then loudly despressed.
Also this is Holly's reply to Spechie?
Holly is drawing what she sees which is fine but if she wants to get the kind of job in animation that she thinks she deserves Holly's going to have to push herself.
I hope that Holly does some actual studying instead of this kind of rushing through of these assignments. She's really missing the elements of life drawing by not paying attention to the model.
>>557007>The problem is that she's careless with money, not that she makes money from her art.
If we are to believe what Holly said in >>556492
then it sounds like Holly is the one supporting her family. So there's no way she's rolling in cash if her family is bleeding her dry
I don't like Holly as a person but I have seen how toxic families work
Family comes first not the mortality of addicts sadly.
Never said it was a respectable job but a very risky outlet to make ends meet. Honestly, both Holly and her brother should be working part-time jobs to help a family crisis instead of choosing two bad "careers". So I have strong doubts that a shitty artist youtuber selling potatoes faced merch can make enough money to support her dysfunctional family when she openly said that she makes less than minimum wage.
I think there are a few people here in denial about how much cash Holly makes off her merch sales and YTbucks.
I heard er say 50k a year. That's a lot of spending money for someone who still lives with their parents.
Holly also complains about how "poor" she is but I don't really think she knows what that means. Holly seems to think not being able to buy whatever you want whenever you want = poor
I think she was making that before the youtube demonetization thing and when she was at peak popularity (her vids don't do too great now).
If all she has to buy is food and rent to a parent there is tons of room to blow cash. It's not like she'd pay for internet, gas, utilities, insurance, etc. And when you don't have to worry about that stuff, there is little incentive to save.
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Ready for her tutorials?
wtf she's going on about how characters falling out with eachother/character conflicts are a character trope… no, it's a compication. ya know, the thing that makes up the body of a majority of stories and then there's a resolution at the end. That's like how 99% of stories play out.
you'd know that holly, if you were a good story teller at all.
1 she doesn’t have a life in real life
2 chances are she never had friends
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As a student who has done storyboarding, that doesn't seem like an overload of work for one day….And illustrations? What? That's why it's taking her so fucking long lmao
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Pro artist, guys!
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You guys forgot this beautiful gem. Holly fixed his eyes.
I can't settle down to go to sleep after reading this I'm just chortling away thinking about Holly slaving away over steamed ham thanks anon
saged for zero contribution
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Oh man…Anyone want an art book filled with wonky anatomy and ugly faces?
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Why you gotta break everyone's legs though???
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I just dont get this print. Is he climbing the fence? Why would i buy a print of a characrters back and a broken leg?
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Just as a reference, here's what the character on the right is actually supposed to look like.
WTF is wrong with Faye? She looks like a scarecrow.
The whole pose doesn't work, the fence is wrong AF and if you're going to represent characters from behind it has to be for strict and powerful symbolism or special effects, holly.
It's even okay that you are refusing on drawing what's popular because you're obviously the only one who likes "old" cartoons (CBebop is not even that old, btw) but at least make it appealing.
You chose to picture two characters, one of them has a strong sex appeal and would be an easy buy for random teenagers that only ask for 2d cleavage and a nice face but NO of course let's break her spine and give her a flat ass.
I would NEVER buy a print like this.
This is beyond terrible
his hair is too flat, his arms are cut and go through the fence
wtf is that leg?
why does she make that stupid tiny heel on every shoe?
Faye looks like a little girl with no ass
So sloppy fml
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Tbf spike DOES have “heels”. Pretty much every kind of shoe that’s not totally flat (à la converse) has some sort of heel, they just have different shapes and heights so sometimes it’s almost unnoticeable.
So it’s just Holly that for the 100000 time failed to understand how shoes work.
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Friendly reminder that this monstrosity came out at the same time she “lectured” people about bad anatomy and all the mistakes “young artists” do. The monster hand, those ridiculous titties…
The way that it's cut makes me itchy.>>558714
I seriously think this is the worst-looking thing she's drawn recently, it's just so broken lmao. I thought she might at least fix some things from the sketch, but I guess if you put down a mark that's it, no changes.
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i wonder how this would go…
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jk, she made an adjustment and added more colors…Wow, I wish I had all that extra time she has
At least she's not in the zine this time. I kinda like to think that she was rejected from the FMA zine so like a petulant child she stomps her foot and goes, "Fine!! I'll make my own zine and you guys can't join!!"
Little does she know that organizing a zine requires good organizational skills as well as professionalism, neither of which she has any of.
It does sound fun though, might take a crack at it even if I don't get in to her zine.
Question, do you think anyone at a higher skill level than she is would join? I'm not entirely sure how zines work but if they get paid per zine sold there might be a few. Would…Holly be paying them? Forgive my lack of zine knowledge, I've never participates in one.
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I gotta admit the bunny one would look cute, if the bunny didnt look like it would wanna murder you. Also, this comic has like what…2 chapters??? What's with all the merch
lopsided charms. goody. I'm sure those'll sell like hotcakes.>>559477
pretty sure she did the same thing regarding the YouTube artist collective, it was zodiac themed and she shit on the group just bc she wasnt in it, then proceeded to ramble about how stupid astrology was and that she "never wanted to be in their stupid group anyways"…while she painted her fuckin astrology symbol lmao. so yeah she is being a petulant child here.>>559467
These are some puke ass colors. yknow what. go ahead and make another project, Holly BRown. can't wait to see you manage a billion email submissions, judging the art, managing artists, the printing of the book and the distribution of the money!
linking into the wrong thread.
wew lad, u nu here?
That character was never actually introduced in the comic yet but he seems to be a ‘fan favorite’.
Still, I’m kinda glad Holly is actually starting to work on convention merch instead of just screwing around with other projects.
Why is there a no transmission screen if te tv is linked to a pc? Wouldn’t it be better a blue screen? I find this quite confusing>>559477
Yeah it was my first thought as well. The timing is perfect.
Poor thing doesn’t know that organising projects with lots of artists take more time than working solo and that the responsibility of checking wips, advertising campaign, proper graphics and stuff require A LOT of times. I’ve personally seen people dropping the participation on a zine (so “just” doing the illustration and avatar) because they had strict deadlines with school and/or work, and yet she decides to push the ORGANIZATION of a fanzine between her pilot episode of CK, an Hamilton book, paranormal plague, purgatory, con merch, YouTube and countless new projects?
Lol so delusional. It will either never sail or fail miserably.
Just accept you got rejected for the fucking zine, Holly.
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anything to keep from paying people actual money, eh holly?
Firstly a zine shouldn’t be a heavy book. Secondly, get a EU distributor - plenty of people would be willing to help out on a zine I’m sure, and I’ve seen a lot of people do it this way.
Also when books open for order then charge international shipping?? Like the costs can be covered. She’s either trying to scam people or she’s just thick as pig shit.
So she says that the contributors get the copies that they can sell and this will be their payment?
In other words: the contributors MUST be the distributors in order to get their money?
Or am i just tinfoiling?
That color palette looks really gross in comparison, the last few hues clash so badly. >>559840
I don't think she knows. She probably plans on printing them all at home again instead of doing the reasonable thing and getting a distributor.
That’s not true, she can be really picky and harsh when it comes to other people. She somehow fails to be that harsh and evolve on her own art, but she bashed professionals, she’s not going to accept stuff that’s not on par with her level, and to her, her level is really high.
If some people would make the same mistakes as her, she would just discard their applications, I’m pretty sure of that.
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Lel, charity to the poor Holly BRown, of course.
I don’t know maybe she could give for something she’s experienced, like help lines for depression or stuff?
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Sorry this is old, but it really made me laugh. Yes I can see how she could pass as a troll channel, especially considering that in a video talking about color theory she fucked her colors so bad she had to adjust them in premiere making her arm look ORANGE>>559907
Yeah but you’re supposed to love PP because she says it’s great. It works with her fans, so she will maybe sell a couple or charms at the con.
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1 minute after I post this Holly fixes it.
She definitely browses here.
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Also she's misspelled "palette" in every possible instance of the word. This is the "pallet" she's referring to. But of course such an advanced, esteemed artist would never make such a mistake….
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She really doesnt want to go outside does she…
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I didn't even know they sold this thing anymore, lmao. Just get a fucking eliptical Holly.
This is the snake-oil of fitness equipments.
But i might be wrong… i'm not a pro like her.
Damn I felt stupid and deleted my response before I saw yours. Sorry bout that.
Is anyone else pumped for the zeeeeen? I can’t wait to see what Holly thinks is good enough to put her name to when it’s not her own work. She’s so damn critical and doesn’t play well with others. I have a feeling this is going to be delicious.
Current list of her projects:
>Purgatory comic >Paranormal comic>Animatics (Hamilton)>Clever Kitchen animation>Fan-Zine>School work>Convention prep>YouTube videos>Comissions
Am I missing anything? She’s also trying to lose weight, put together illustrations for her portfolio, and girl needs to sort her room out cause it’s a cluster fuck.
150 seems more like an artbook, not a zine. >>560600
Proof or it didn't happen anon
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And for years I thought the elliptical was the worst cardio machine in the world.>no resistance>just flawing your legs with no glute or core activation>looks like something uses to aid physical therapy for the elderly>too fat and lazy to go outside or buy a treadmill or static bike>There are $10 monthly gym memberships that open 24/7
I'm starting to think a lot of female artists are pretty stupid with sports medicine
This also bothered me more than it maybe should have lmao, it's not even like the original title is barely used in the West like FMA.
I think her method of compensation seems fair though.
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wtf is she in kindergarten
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I can imagine all the complaining and then not touching that program for a year
My bet is "after installing".
I mean she already has negative attitude towards it.>>561016
next time sage it if it's not milk.
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This is what happens when you dont read, Holly.
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Her comment from TheReportOfTheWeek reacting to fan art video…
I'll give her two weeks before she posts a video shit talking TVpaint and then goes back to her old program (like she did before she stopped using her cintiq).
As for tutorials, I think she'll post one or two basically repeating the advice already out there for the program and that she'll post a unboxing video/first use video as soon as she can to show off her new toy.
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Whoever said that this is probably the reason why Holly splurges so much, is now confirmed
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So she's doing the printing herself,taking the costs of that, instead of forwarding funds to a professional printing service? I feel bad for whoever's going to be submitting art to her then, it's going to come out so wonky.
If she just "wants to make a zine" then why is she so hell bent on printing it herself other than for the glory of being able to say "HA! I made this from scratch and all these great artists are in my
corner, eat shit, FMA zine!"
Like, she always finds the most difficult path and walks it with no map. You can run a store for 4 years and still not know what the fuck you're doing with your money, your time, and your resources. That much has been proven with her.
She said that she pre-calculates the cost of the zeen based on printing cost of her own prints. Which is semi-wise given that she has a plan and all… but this is a backwards logic again.
Because first you optimize the pagecount (printcost, format, which size sells better etc) and then go to find artists.
I’m sorry I sound like a broken record but I grew up in a condition that’s pretty close to Holly’s. Single mother caring for three children, plus rent and bills PLUS legal expenses.
We weren’t allowed to luxury and I get what she’s saying but that’s no excuse for how much she splurges. I had hand me downs for church or my sister, never had toys, could only afford paper and pen to draw and every other thing was considered luxury. No proper health treatment, no dentist either. So yeah I understand that growing up poor is sad and hard, I know that, but she’s not alone in this and some of her points are quite meh to me.>>Food is bland because spices are expensive
I mean what? I understand that canned food is not the best but the only “spice” you really need is salt, and that’s in no way expensive. Most probably her mom and siblings and even her don’t know how to cook and rely only on the strong taste of spices to “taste” the food. As I said, we were on a really low income, but my mom’s cooking was never bland. She found ways to make everything kind of good. Repetitive, sure, because it’s basically the same food all the fucking time, but the food being ugly it’s just a matter of how you cook it and distribute what you have at your disposal.
Growing up in that condition I’ve learned that you need to avoid staining your clothes and you need to treat your stuff properly, because it’s the only thing you’ll have.
So unless it’s sonething uncontrollable, “stained clothes” are just a sign of her never giving a fuck about her stuff. Unless they were stained from the get go but you usually check clothes before accepting them in church. And if you take care of the stains as soon as you can they’re barely visible, and you can anyway find way to “cover” what is wrong with your clothes. Personal experience, again. Sorry for the blog post but I seriously don’t like when people “justify” her actions or the way she trashed money because she grew up poor.
I knew I couldn’t afford the basics so every cent I gained, it was a saving for things I needed or wanted. But again if I wanted/want something I check so many times if it’s really worth it because something in my mind is telling me that there could be some medical expenses, or things that I really NEED in the future. So no, it’s a matter of character and predisposition. Growing up poor don’t make you an uneducated money tosser, it’s her fault.
Again I’m sorry, I don’t want to sound like a bitch but that’s really not the situation fault, it’s just hers.
Also if the situation was so desperate, she should have rolled up her sleeve and go work to contribute the family just like I and lots of other people did. But from what she’s said she only worked at what michaels for a short period of time and not too long ago.
I know, reading her complains seemed so whiney and oh woe is me despite most of her points bring petty normal things. Like a sketchbook and new clothes are pretty average for birthday and Christmas gifts, she acts like such a spoiled brat.
Also I get that money brings stability but that doesn't mean you're miserable all the time, if anything its the little things that make you happy.
I don't want this to get out of hand in a debate of weather or not money brings you happiness, but with the right mindset honestly you can get over certain things. She just seems to act like such a spoiled brat who wishes she had money to splurge as a kid despite not having worked any jobs when she was little
Saged of course
Yes, thank you. I think you phrased it the best.
Also let’s not forget that in high school most of her works were done in copics and she had quite the collection, so… uhm MAYBE she’s exaggerating a little bit? Copics aren’t cheap and if they had that much trouble with clothes and FOOD I would have spent whatever ideal money I had to improve my style of life instead of a bunch of copics just because all the cool kids have them. Of course it was her choice eventually but in that case she had no right to complain about her poor life conditions. Her priorities are so off balance that it makes me dubious she really was “that” poor. Say she worked at michael’s because she wanted to buy copics, If THAT was her only worry then she was pretty average/lucky money wise.
And yes if you have money and live with somebody that has covered your ass all your life to me contributing is simply a given. And nothing to brag about.
Think if her aunt/mom complained every time she needed to buy panties for her or buy groceries for three children. That would sound humiliating, right? Yet she does the same thing now that she has a couple bucks to lend money.
next time sage it if it's not milk.
Google translate that for me.
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She spent so much money even though she can't animate. All because its "easier"??
My bet is that she hasn’t told anybody and expects people to be amazed by her hard work and praise her because she did way better than requested.
I would laugh my ass off so hard if they end up not counting this because it’s too off subject and she ends up not graduating at all.
To be fair, as an animator I have to say features in softwares being made "easier" really is important and sometimes even life-saving. Plus, depending on what kind of animation you want to make, the many differences between Toon Boom and TV Paint really matter. Or- they would, for Holly, if she weren't so bad at animating that style doesn't really matter at this point.
Holly, if you're reading this, learn how to animate with paper before you spend additional ridiculous amounts of money on things you're not gonna use.
She doesn’t seem to think she’s come to money though, as she always complains about being poor.
Then there’s another thing to consider. Her mom is not her mom, if this is legal, there’s no way a judge would move a kid into a house that can’t provide basics. I think she’s over exaggerating again.
Also there’s kids who don’t get to have Christmas presents or birthday presents, even if small. And she shits over sketchbooks or clothes?! I would have LOVED both, but had my first sketchbook basically when I started working in the industry.
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I got suspicious since she listed hex codes for the zine that they were not CMYK so I tested it and they are indeed RGB instead of CMYK. It's obvious it'll be a different color in print than intended if everyone will use those colors. I'm so confused about this because she said she knows how to print books..she hasn't specified any technical information on what format the submissions should be either. I don't think she knows half of what she claims to know.
She can buy all sorts of useless crap, but I guess a DVD drive is too much? Okay.>>561466>>561401
I get what you guys are saying but owning something expensive doesn't mean that you've never been poor. She probably wasn't starving to death poor (which is comparatively rare in the US anyway), but I don't find it hard to believe that she grew up low income and probably isn't used to having disposable income like she does now. Her point that people who say that "money can't make you happy" often have never been poor is pretty valid.
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Yes but growing up in a low income is different than saying you were really poor to the point of complaining about food.
I know you can be poor and work your ass off/save and buy expensive stuff; but she made her life sound way worse than what it was, money wise. To me the things she listed were either stupid or stuff to not point out if not for pity points.
I said I understand what she means, but she didn’t made the discovery. “Money can’t buy happiness, but they sure help” is totally a thing, and again I get what she wanted to say, but as always she made it worse and phrased it poorly.
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Man, if Holly wasn't such a crazy rude hypocrite her videos would actually be alright and enjoyable
I like watching people plan and make drawings/keychains for cons, there's not enough content out for this tbh
Has she chopped all of her hair off??
After going through all the bother of dying it "rose gold"
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Lol this is entertaining
she said in the vlog that she wanted this program for YEARS, but she used to shit on it not so long ago. And now she can't even fucking wait for one email? There's tons of stuff she could do to distract herself from waiting.
I understand that she's spent lots of money on that program but you can't expect them to work like YOU want. They have their reasons to work this way, and a little more experience in selling unpiratable, professional softwares.
wtf, I've used both programs and toon boom wasn't that hard to use if you're doing simple animation with no camera movement. Even coloring is super easy with paint bucket. Even if you don't know how to do something, there is such a thing called Google, Holly!>>561515 >>561639
When you have no patience, so you just go out and buy that and complain you're a poor ass bitch. Has she ever been optimistic in her life? It's always complain, complain, and complain.
LOL she doesn't have enough to do, she's gonna start an MLM too? I'm dead>>561627
Hahahaha no it was just unbrushed and thrown up into some kind of mess
Yeah, an hexadecimal color is /always/ RGB. Those are colors used for web and screens. But I see your point though.
I took a look at her True Color Tumblr and she wrote "I have a book printing machine and also know a lot about file setup in Indesign". Obviously if she knew this much she would have created a palette with CMYK codes and specified more informations (like dpi for instance). But I guess she (maybe) would give more informations to the artists later, as she's first going to choose who gets in.
Anyway, I read that the zine will be printed on her laser printer so I can only expect an unprofessional result. I wonder why so many people want to enter this zine.
(also what irks me is that Holly posted her previous printed works on "creator" page… But those are fucking MOCKUPS. If you want to prove how good you are at making books just show fucking PHOTOS Holly)
Didn't she also say that she went to an art highschool or something?
Lmao when I was 17 my family was dead broke, like, living in a trailer, getting clothes from church drives and shit. I highly doubt she could afford as much art shit she had tbh if her family was as poor as she makes them out to be.
I see people do this shit all the time for the Tortured Soul Points
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So lemme get this straight,
She put up a donation pool to help her afford TVPaint… knowing that
she was gonna get tax money back, just so she can go ahead and buy it on her own anyway? What a scammy move.
And she has an accountant.
But she's poor, though.
ok, Holly BRown.
She's such a fuckin' liar, and I honestly lament the people naive enough to enter her zine with her shitty rules and color restrictions.
Holly never really does anything to benefit the art community as a whole, she only does it to benefit herself and line her own pockets.
Also, a print with characters backs turned away is generally unappealing, unless it's the focal point of the fucking image.
Best part of all this is that her mindless followers won't even be able to put 2 and 2 together to actually call her out for her bullshit. In fact I'm almost positive the people who donated will donate again when Holly posts some other dumb donation pool.
Also, I'm calling it now, Holly's next donation pool will be for her Zine once she realizes she doesn't have the money/resources to actually print the thing.
She obviously just grabbed a palette off Kuler or something and didn't even think about it. I'm sure she's the kind of person who blames it on their printer when colors come out "wrong".>>561977
How is she going to get this film done if she can't even paint something simple like that, even if it's for a shitpost? At least use one of the myriad of free VN/anime BGs out there.
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its confirmed, that hand was traced
idk why i had some faith in holly that she took the time to draw an interesting hand for once
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dont see the difference
''i want to have Lilith from EVA as a …a… charm. I realize that nobody knows what the fuck that is anymore 'cause everybody up to slang (what?)
with the hot new animes''
holly how out of touch are you with your demographic or teens in general that you think people dont know evangelion or its a rare ge that only anime experts know ffs, you dont even need to have seen the anime to recognize it
>>562362>"I realize that no one probably knows who lilith from Evangelion is anymore"
…in which world? She really seems to think Evangelion is some niche shit lmao, Holly. Listen. Most people know about Eva, even in 2018.
I wonder how she judges her art sometimes. She'll show something kinda interesting or just the same quality as her other stuff and say she hates it, and then prefers other sketches for no clear reason.>>562422
How is it confirmed? She didn't say anything about it.
1) what hand are you talking about?
2) Is it in this picture?
3) confirmed how?
Sketchbooks here are quite expensive, the only cheap sketchbooks you can find it’s from a couple years ago when flying tiger started to open stores in my country.
I had tons of printer paper and used that, plus when you create a portfolio you basically only use single sheets (well of course heavier paper but per page it still costed less than sketchbooks) ; I’m talking about traditional media, of course, but you get the idea.
15$ minimum for a sketchbook were a waste of money, especially considering that I didn’t need to keep every piece together for practice pieces. With 2 $ I could have way more paper.
If you really want to draw and improve the basics all you really need is shit paper and a pen/pencil.
Also yes Holly NGE is totally not an icon known by basically everybody, and it’s not like they are making new movies, it’s totally an unknown niche anime
Yeah I also used mainly printer paper. Sketchbooks were too final for me I always threw my stuff away when I was a kid. I didn’t start keeping one until college. I think sketchbooks as a whole are becoming their own little niche because of instagram and youtube lol
Sage for Ot but does anyone else think it’s weird how polished people make their ‘sketchbooks’ now? I just don’t understand. Is it for views and likes? Or does everyone do line art and color in sketchbooks with detailed backgrounds and shit?
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but… even your finished works lean, Holly baby
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why did she give this guy a shoe for a foot?
I think this is what she thinks a stylised foot looks like, with the arch and everything.>>563072
I myself tend to clean up and do “polished” stuff because again, I’ve always felt sketchbooks were precious, so I use them when I want to do more refined doodle and go back to the “bad” habit of practicing on scraps of paper. I often try to be looser and leave blank pages or whatever but it’s a strong feeling personally. With cheaper sketchbooks yes, I can devote them to gesture and just practice, but pricier sketchbooks, with a good paper, would feel wasted if used just to draw practice pieces. It’s not for showing off as I’ce always tended to keep my sketchbook kind of private.
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Holly was definitely accepted into CalArts, but is just reassuring you guys that she thinks that their application process is dumb!
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So…Animation is what? Not art?
Channel's not gonna last. She's already shown disinterest in animation.
If she can't even put in an effort to do studies for drawing fundamentals, then i dunno what makes anyone think she'll make an effort for animation studies. Not one bouncing ball or flour sack or pendulum from her.
Just two videos, and she didn’t work on any of these for the past what three months? She’s showing old and crappy works
Also I hate how she’s basically making him move like a girl… guys putting hair off their shoulder won’t usually move like this
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Here's another project she's adding to her never ending pile!
Holly "i still don't know how hands work" BRown.
10/10 - needs more lean.
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i love how there is simultaneously too much and not enough exaggeration. like she stretches the shit out of it when the pose changes are minimal lmao
it's more likely that she just halfassed it (like almost everything).
she probably looked at an old anime (where the studio didn't had the time or manpower to animate all the details), said to herself "i can totally do this in my current editing program", tried to replicate it, got bored and moved on.
this is why the leaves are moving but she forgot that some leaves go THROUGH her fence and that the grass near the bottom corner SHOULD MOVE.
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How long do you guys think this will last?
And yet she’s still proficient in it, standing by her website.
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Why is she so against working on her real projects instead? Girl you have a billion projects in the work with a deadline and keep doing other stuff instead.
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The chat is always hilarious
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and so it begins…in the fugly guy animation, his eyes are in sync with his mouth that it looks like a robot…
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Uhm guys, she said “after 6 days I can use tvpaint finally”, yesterday, right?
Checked today, so detract one day from the screen, BUT. Look at pic related.
She received it four days ago. Four. That means that when she posted the “finally” she had it for three days. THREE fucking days. HALF of the time she said she waited to use it.
Then there’s people not accepting that she’s always over reacting and exaggerating everything.
I wouldn’t count shipping as impediment to use a certain product, and from her tweet she seemed like she was fighting with the dongle (lol sorry) and codes for six days but could be just me.
You could be right (and thinking again you probably are), but that’d sound even more stupid to me. I would count from when I receive the thing personally.
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wtf…did she actually say that??? Oh my lord…I can't even…what???? You literally learn that in animation 1 classes. 12 principles of animation, Holly!
Yeah, I watched the livestream. She basically threw shades here and there, and said wrong or stupid stuff about animation.
like this one. And Apparently, she JUST NOW is starting to read books about it, BUT she's "stupid" and doesn't get it.
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She thinks THIS looks better than the original music video???? That hand. Omfg.
WHY does she give every fucking character she draws the bang flippy thing?!?!?!? Is she incapable of drawing other hairstyles?!?!?!? Dear fucking LORD Holly this is horrendous! I'm so sick of everything she draws not only having same face but same HAIR.>>565071
I. Wh. I don't.
H-Holly put the fucking pen down. You do not deserve to damn the world with your "animations". I have no words for her absolute STUPIDITY about animation. Get the fuck out of my field of choice Holly, you don't deserve TV Paint or your popularity.
I'm sorry but this is day fucking 1 animation class,maybe day 2 depending on the teaching style,how the fuck does she not know this?! Harry Patridge has animation tutorials and in the first few videos he explains squash and stretch and demonstrates it! How can someone be so obtuse?!
anybody else feel like her animation is trying to be disney?? the eyes and chin mostly.
also the tiny pupils look weird in hollys "style".
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New to this page, so please excuse me, but from the looks of it this seems quite different than what she usually does - does she do this often, or is it just the digital shit?
The hair is really nice on this, but as a traditional art student, that is not how you do skin at all, and shes already majorly flattened out the nose.
I agree with >>565632
though, I do think it was traced.
Hey and welcome :) please put sage in the email line if you’re just commenting and not adding milk.
How would you suggest she should do skin? Sorry, artistically challenged here. I don’t even know if she’s taken a traditional medium class but she’s done paintings on her channel before.
It really depends! You have to take into account lighting and everything, but there's really never any reason to just put a base of yellow… It's just a really nasty and hard to work with color.
As someone who is close to her in skin tone, I always use a peach as a base and then use light browns and more peaches to build up my layers. It's clear to me that even on the cheek, she only has two/three layers of color down.
You REALLY have to build up layers when drawing skin. I've done portraits where the layer of colored pencil I use is in the 30s - it just really matters that you build up those color. A lot of people make a mistake by instantly grabbing whatever 'flesh' tone and just covering everything in that, but it really makes your art pop when you throw in blue as a base cover and work from there.
It's strange to me that she doesn't know that, because the hair clearly shows that she's used colored pencils quite a bit - and she's using Prismacolors, which are one of the more expensive colored pencils.
She's also just really not following the form, and that can kill you when doing faces.
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What is that hair..and I totally thought that her arm was amputated because of how flat the arm and the thing on it is…
LOL, I can't unsee that now>>565764
Are they floating in space?
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That’s not a “her,” im pretty sure that’s supposed to be the lead singer of the band. Yikes
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oh oops. mb. Never listened to that band and Holly's drawings are just so bad that I couldn't tell if female or male….
I can already tell this is going to give me nightmares. Seriously, if I saw this on someones website I'm sure I would instinctively close out of my browser. >>565764
Positive note, the 'lets ad so many details with thin lines and flat colors later' style kinda helps hide Holly's complete lack of understanding of anything art related. Negative note, everything else. Holly, lets be honest, all your animations are going to be unintentional 'wiggle' because you have no idea what the heck you are actually doing.
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Seeing this made me unreasonably angry for whatever reason.
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She never really changes her color palette, does she
Why is the IV line under the bed rail? that's not how it goes Holly.. and.. this is kind of a pet peeve of mine but if you're gonna put a heart monitor in there, make sure the EKG drawing is normal..
That EKG looks like some deadly arrhythmia ..geez
sage bc nit picking
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She NOW realizes it?!
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> My demographic isn't towards kids, guys!
classic Holly BRown random and inappropriate pattern of capitalising letters
Give her a break.
First she needs to spell her own name properly.
But she hadn't find an expensive program to spell her name right yet.
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The simon character dresses as a waitress. i dunno wtf this is
i guess you can see his hair-itage clearly…
seriously tho, the only way she could think to make him resemble his parents was that weird hair because sameface syndrome (paranormal) plagues her
I know their backstory!
Dad has a nasty case of "2d hand" syndrome.
Mom has a serious neck injury.
Holy fucking shit did she just misspell her own comic title????
Aw ye my fave comic Purgtory love it
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Holly stop adding more projects to your list.
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150 artists?? That's a 150+ page book she is thinking of making by hand. This is the same person who struggled to make three of her sketch artbooks by hand, all of which came out sloppy and badly cut. And she expects to make enough money to pay all 150 artists??? They'll all get $5 by the end if they're lucky. Holly sucks at math and never takes into account the cost of labor.
I can't wait to see this crash and burn and then other artists and fans will see her for the absolute tire fire she is. She's already overestimated how big this zine should be. How disappointing would it be for artists who were accepted to suddenly realize that she can't actually take that many. All because she decided to bite off more than she could chew, as usual.
If so much as one
part of this fucks up, the onus is on her,since she's the only one running it as far as we know. I really hope this exposes her.
That damn sketchbook slam challenge needs to fuckin die already. it cultivates shitty unhealthy habits in artists, especially beginners who arelse lead to believe the fast track to improving is wearing yourself thin. that's Holly's method and it's always work harder, not smarter for her. never do Holly's method.
hell, she's probably looking to do it again so she can get another buzz of popularity/views and establish herself as the "originator" of the challenge. we see right through your pitiful tricks, Holly BRown.
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all these beginner artists have to stop assuming that because children in east asia have the discipline to study like this that it won't burn them the fuck out lol. I hate this challenge
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This looks like a bloodbath
saged cuz not really relevant
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CASES Closed kek
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the more you look at it, the more interesting it looks
she took several stamps and reoutlined them
the roses she outlined once then duped them, turning them slightly and resizing them
one of the heads of the long flowers has disappeared, leaving the stem and leaves
how the hell is she going to animate this without it looking like complete balls
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Was going to actually praise her for drawing her first head that wasn’t at a straight on angle to the camera… but FLOWERS STAMPS Holly ??? I’m triggered and youre lazy
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More videos that teach young artists the wrong way to approach things!
But… those leaves…the wrapping paper… and the small roses!
The one BIG rose (because the other 2 are just fucking rotated copies) is okay-ish, i would buy a giftcard with it for my SO.
Maybe she should only do giftcard designs?
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There's so many obvious things wrong. But I'm put off by the only way she knows how to make dialogue emotional is adding swears. This character wouldn't swear, makes no sense for the character she is attempting.
But, either way this update is a gold rush of keks.
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You was quicker.
But this is what that hair reminds me.
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You dont need it at 4k, you dont know how to do a wiggle animation, so it looks like everything is having a seizure, and your bounce thingy at the end doesn't look like a bounce, but a poorly made "squash and stretch".
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I knew I had seen this before…
i wonder what the essays she writes for her online school look like
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Heres the charm she was going to make so that people wrap their earphones around them - an idea she took from another artists btw- she scrapped it but look at how bad this shit is. Why is there no weight or density to anything she draws?? The rope looks like she copied and pasted it there, it doesnt look like its going around the character and it doesnt look tight at all. Also the trunk arms look like shit
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So what is the point of this when she already has hotkeys on the side…?
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Holly thinks she can be a charismatic person. Good joke!
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Catching up on Amberlynn Reid drama, and spotted a wild Health-Expert-Holly in the comments.
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Look at those paws lol
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I will never be okay with that hand.
Also Holly who are you trying to fool. You work so hard you barely accomplish anything and you share even the littlest things. Of course this is the only recent traditional piece you made, stop looking busy when all you do is wasting time in stupid animations, avoiding all of the other projects and real assignments.
Also this is extremely boring color wise, and the drawing itself is hideous, leans and the more you stare at it the more you can make a bullet list of all the errors.
I wouldn’t show this level of crap.
Nah it’s normal to be worried, it means you have eyes.
Isn’t it hilarious how that hat is “sitting” on his head, too?
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there are glaring mistakes but its easier to explain them away with muh style and the fact that it clearly actually took effort as opposed to her other horse shit which can't be defended at all lol. I wish she had the commitment to draw this way all the time, like i don't hate it
They either lied or were woefully misinformed about what it means to be a sexual predator because they are that incredibly dumb.
Now that I think about it, yea, why dosent Holly join the DA ranting community, its right up her alley.
You sage by typing "sage" in the email field.
I don't know if there's a single community on youtube more vapid and petty than the deviantart ranting crowd. Every single one of them is at least twice as annoying as Holly BRown, if you ask me.
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is it just me or does this sound like completely incomprehensible word salad?
A concept: How about you write a good
character, first, Holly. whether or not the character in question is "realistically gay/bi" enough doesn't mean shit if writing a good character in the first place isn't your focus.
shes conflicted cause she probably wanted to make a straight manly character she could thirst after for once instead of a twink: hershel
BUT she also wants to pair hershel up with reese
so she wanted to do something different but she cant get out of her yaoi cycle
Cue her tangent on why labels people choose to use don't necessarily equate to their actual identity
eww what kind of girl would date/kiss her though
also she's a fucking atheist (like outwardly not hiding it), but shes scared of admitting to her aunt/mom shes attracted to girls?
(in a vlog she talks about how she bought a yuri manga in front of her mom then had to convince her shes straight)
Holly just says crap so she can support her point. Honestly doubt she’s ever dated anyone before.
As for her word salad twitter post, she could have just said that she hates putting labels on relationships and a majority of people would have been completely ok with that.
To me it’s all about validation. I think Holly is straight. But she wants to be able to ban ‘labels’ so that when non-straight people point out the flaws in her poorly written queer characters she can fall back on beig queer herself, but also completely straight nudge nudge wink wink
She is a fujoshi attempting to justify her fetish by borrowing queerness when she’s just straight? And likes to wank to m/m porn?
Okay this is hard to understand
I'm gonna go ahead and give her the benefit of the doubt and assume what she means is that she personally dosen't like it when other people put labels onto her because she feels they are too constraining. And as a possibly bi/straight person, this has been her experience with her sexuality.
Tbh I have known people of the same mentality and it really is sorta like "dont pressure me, I'm trying to figure it out/just trying to live my life." Which I think is all well and fine.
But Holly goddammit, you're stepping on your own toes again! Just because that is YOUR experience dosen't mean it is everyone else's experience. So why the fuck are you running around telling people "this is the proper way to do it" again???
Is that what you're trying to say?????WTF ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY????
Fair enough. I was an idiot for thinking otherwise lol
Well there’s a couple things someone might find interesting
She shit talked literally every artist ever, including Kim Jung Gi. Said his art was mediocre and his process was played up and uninteresting. Maybe because he can draw accurately from his head and she’s salty that she has no clue how to Idfk.
Honestly I’ve never seen someone so hell bent on finding flaws in everyone’s work but being completely oblivious about their own work. Her problems she acknowledged were: her weird slanted lean in her art and the fact that she can’t draw hands to save her life. Everything else was great in her eyes. Even her studies are often off but she’s never addressed that she was so into “improvement hell” but neglected to actually improve it was beyond annoying.
She told me she only made Damian and Simon gay so that it would get popular as a gay comic. Seriously.
She also always got really triggered
whenever talking about her brother and would freak out if he ever was nearby. Like once he came into her room and asked her something and she lashed out at him and just kept yelling at him to get out and for like the next two minutes after he left all she did was talk about how stupid he was and how much she hated him.
I think the most interesting thing for me was when she got a table for San Japan the year Baylee was invited. She was making these bizarre posters that had like no color and were just like.. shitty drawings of “popular” fandoms. They weren’t fucking popular other than Ghibli and the Ghibli one had more obscure characters and they were sometimes not even recognizable. And she was so fucking sure she would outsell Baylee, and constantly bragged about it.
Yea she didn’t make back the money she spent on everything. Idk how she thought her stuff would sell. The idea she pitched to me for fanart sounded good but her execution on them wasn’t even subpar. Baylee totally outsold her and it was like pulling teething asking her how the con went. She was so upset it was sad. But literally how the fuck did she expect to get anything over Baylee when she offered obscure shit that wasnt remotely interesting. Also apparently she went to Baylee’s table and kinda was like “hey I’m on YouTube too” and Baylee was like “yea I know you” and that was it. Baylee was so uninterested and over her.
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Oh boy, here we fucking go
I cannot even describe to you the contempt she had for Baylee. I mean I don’t really like her either, but Holly shit on her CONSTANTLY. She watched all her videos except the toy channel. Criticized everything she did.
I fed into it I admit but Holly really hated her. Once upon a time Holly made a “challenge” where she redrew Baylee’s Prince Jack Frost piece. Before me and Holly ever spoke I actually called her out on it because she was essentially just copying Baylee’s work to make it “better”
Idk if she ever replied.
She used to be really open with shitting on other artists tho, especially Lemia because she was “teaching bad habits about inking”. That was mostly when she was in highschool and made videos. She acts like she’s different from then but I think she’s just more careful who she talks to. Cause she talks a TON of shit and it doesn’t matter who it is.
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Is this gonna be another online school thing?? Idk why even bother with grad school cuz she's not even giving a flying fuck about her current school. It's gonna be a waste of money as per usual
Hell, anon, I can see her being the very subject
of those "My art teacher hated me" videos the whiny art youtubers make. it complete the cycle. but here's hoping that won't happen. she needs to fix herself, or she'll never be fit to work among others in any capacity. who wants to work with someone who'll shit on them eventually?
She thinks she can have it both ways, sucking up to better or bigger artists and then turning around to talk shit about them.
That's why no one of note wants to deal with her. She's too much of a snake. Nothing she does concerning other artists, is genuine. she's too self serving and conceited.
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She actually printed that horrendous thing….
Also how did this girl ever graduate from an art high school if this is the quality of her work now?
jk friend, i think this is a pretty much universal feeling with anons who do art. i hated my hs teachers but you know. gotta be humble and stuff
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Is she even working on her school projects lmao. That's like a shit ton of people to go through
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Taken from Baylee's thread, but look who's still kissing ass lmao
Why is she going to post and accepted list publicly? I mean… if you have any artists with clout, slowly releasing names is a good way to promo. Also not all the artists are going to end up in the zine in the end.
I'd say it's unprofessional, but this is Holly we're talking about.
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I would highly recommend a keypad instead cuz you'll waste time reaching for hotkeys on this one….
I don't even want to defend her, but people have a lot of reasons not to use a keypad. Usually their tablet is so big they can't reach it effortlessly, so they'd rather use the express keys.
What's weird to me is that if she has to label them because she won't remember them otherwise, does it really even improve her workflow? Digital artists don't even have to look at the keys, it's muscle memory. If you can't remember the commands you'll take just as much time looking for a tool on screen than on your hotkeys.
Also those label stickers are kinda ugly, it'd actually bother me more to have ugly white stickers on my tools..
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I thought they were apple slices at first. Such anatomy, great volume definition!>>571731
I agree with the muscle memory, most of the time I can’t even explain some actions I’m doing because I’m too used to just hit the keys, I know the placement but not what keys they are unless I mimick the movement while watching.
I THINK she could have just put them to help her memorise the hot keys and then forgot/was unable to detach the stickers, I honestly hope she doesn’t look for the tool button every time. In my opinion is way quicker to just learn the positioning of your shortcuts (if they’re too much or you suck at remembering things) just by trial and error.
The whole printing, cutting and placing stickers is more consuming than actually memorising the keys as you go. But that’s her jam: harder, not smarter.
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Under waffles new video.
I know she supposedly wants to be supportive but it really gets on my nerves. Whenever she shits on cookie cutter channels, she is referring to her too; and what the girl is going through in first person is different than dealing with somebody who is ill. It’s a different kind of pain and no she can’t understand how it is like to BE sick.
Also encouraging others to beg for money?
I mean If she really needs it and it comes for her I’d even help, but suggesting to just open tip jars because “she’s too cool” (god she’s such a snake) upsets me. This seems to be the solution to everything for Holly.
Just ASK for money.
Fuck is she really going to post all the artists? I regret submitting to it. Here's hoping I'm rejected!
In all honesty my reason for submitting was plainly for exposure as a less than well known artist. As much as I despise Holly, fan art is fun for me and I don't have trouble doing it.
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She retweeted this..I don't know what I'd call her "occupation" but she sure as fuck isn't a freelancer.
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Oh boy, here it comes
"You're too cool to suffer lol"
Does she not understand how to give someone some kind encouraging words? I hope Waffles doesn't respond, she doesn't deserve to be wrapped up with Holly.
“Money will heal your sadness”
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"One specificity for sexy men"?
I'd get a good laugh out of Holly trying to draw anything remotely sexy.
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I wish someone would take the time to try and actually mimic these poses in real life to the best of their ability, then take a photo and compare it to her art work. Not only would it be entertaining, but it would save people from having to write large paragraphs unpacking why Holly's art sucks so much.
Seriously can't get over how wonky her poses always look. If she was a 10 year old or something, I would understand, but she's a damn adult who's been to ""art school"".
What exactly is the focus of this image? is it the sign? the sky? Is it spike? is it faye??
I genuinely don't know. this image has no flow, all it is are elements randomly placed in a dead-on angle.
and the arms are pissin me off, are they legit putting their arms over the top and through
what a fucking tragedy, lmao. I hope she never touches cowboy bebop ever again.
whatever the reason, it's one hell of an "I can't/don't feel like drawing hands" tell.
just look at that tangent from wrist to leg on spike.
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Isn't the girl character Holly's self insert, it looks just like the way she draws herself. It's so obvious she fantasizes herself with this guy character lol I even remember her saying in a vlog she had a sexual dream about him once.
>There's just gonna be some things you're gonna have to fuck with. But here's a tutorial
>But here's all this shit you need.
>slams down book after the glue is done binding.
>Says built-in cooling rack sucks, but doesn't even mention why.
>weeks ago, wondered why tf her cut came out wonky
> says "this can be very, very expensive!" several times.
She says that if you don't have a lot of money it's better to get all this shit from the jump but…You really don't
need all these bells and whistles to make small comics and zines. You literally just need a printer, a photo editing program, and maybe some staples.
Hell, at THAT rate, you'll hardly be making art because you'd be too entrenched in binding books, or trying to afford to bind books.
This is why…Artists opening up pre-orders for a print run to be more affordable and professionally made is a thing
Bad advice, as usual.
I seriously doubt she's made her money back on any
of the shit in the video. and then she's telling other beginners they'd make theirs back in the long run? it's a flat out lie. you won't, not without a following, at least, so it's easy for holly BRown to say.
Let's say that an artist does have a large following and demand for books goes up. at that point do you really
want to do the work book binding orders and
trying to make new art at the same time? at that point instead of paying in money, you pay in time spent producing.
only one of those is a renewable resource…
Putting your work in a book format won't fix the egregious amount of art lean, Holly.
Also, stop encouraging people to buy unnecessary shit to make simple zines and comics.
Most people buying them don't even mind the finish when the work is good, which is probably why Holly here is overcompensating.
If it was me, I would've suggested to my viewers to try book binding out at a workshop first, or do further research and really think, 'is this something I want to invest in and do in the long term
Because that's what these are, they're long term investments. Almost ALL of the shit she mentioned in the video are 'nice to have's. but they aren't necessary to getting a product out to people.
What she is trying to do is imitate as closely as possible, professionally done book binding. And if that's what she wants to do, cool, it was an interesting video, but don't go telling people they need a laminator and a guillotine cutter to get a job done.
Smarter, not harder.
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We know your anatomy hasn't gotten any better though
I’m just imagining DaVinci saying something similar,” lol sorry guys I’m not a master or anything I just copied peoples faces for reference and put them on the 12 disciples, I didn’t come up with them from my imagination
so I must be a hack.”
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“Make the tail twice as long”
The length wouldnt even be a problem if it wasn't for the fact that it looks like a man planking with an ebay purchased mermaid costume on that was 2 sizes too big. He's supposed to be underwater but Holly again needs to prove that she's the stiffest drawer that happened put their illustrations in the microwave for five seconds so it looks fluid (re: leaning)
Good to note that unless there are surges where he is sleeping, his hair would sink down to the bottom with him and not just stick like a bad anime character, water doesnt equate to zero gravity.
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What is this! What is going on in here?
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YES because she’s an entitled little bitch. She’s not deep, she’s not original and her stories and pinups sucks. Of course people would get mad at her.
She’s always complaining about other people without realising she does the same mistakes.
Like the whole mermaid rant: to her mermaids should have fixed proportions, and then when SHE draws a merman she doesn’t apply such proportions. She bitches that everything must be plausible even if it’s made up but then she keeps drawing those fucking glasses on Simon because “they don’t make sense but I like it”
She’s the only one who’s allowed to have preferences or stylistic choices, everybody else is a loser or doesn’t know any better.
Watch out she's about to get so deep guys!
I love how even though she participates in things like Mermay, she always manages to find a way to shit on the way other people participate.
if it's just pinup, and not a full on multilevel story? It's for fun
. Which is something she tends to suck at, and suck out of everything.
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… I take it she hasn't been following her own advice.
What the hell is going on with this page?
I think the reason Holly shits all over other people participating in things like Mermay is because she instinctively knows that her art will not stand out by itself so she needs to artificially make a way for her work be noticed by the masses.
For example, in this situation Holly is trying to make her stuff stand out by being 'the only artist that puts actual thought into Mermay by creating a shitty story for her mermaids'.
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>>574270> the only artist that puts actual thought into Mermay by creating a shitty story for her mermaids
which is hilarious because a simple search would show otherwise. attached the first google image search result.
this is the problem with vague posting. she's obviously annoyed at certain artists for what she views as "lazy pinups" but instead of calling them out or talking specifically, she makes a general statement about the entire event.
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I think that post was probably referring to something that Holly said? She probably was trying to suck up to Tom and said that he was a good example of what to follow, assuming that he gave his submissions a story, not realizing that he also did a pinup or something like that.
That's what I got out of it :/
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It’s just as much or little of a story as she and everyone else does for Mermay. People enjoy drawing pretty mermaids but Holly has to shit on that. I guess because her picture is a man instead of a woman, she thinks she’s innovating and original. Instead of focusing on shitting on Mermay, she should focus on improving her own work.
What an idiot. This dumbass that can’t read OR draw is implying illustrators that participate in mermay (for FUN you idiot) are required to do a certain list of Holly-approved things with their pieces or they are lazy basic wannabes?? Wtf is she even saying??
Also lmao ‘I’m not participating in MerMay trust me btw I’m making a mermaid video…in May. About MerMay. Also here is a mermaid OC I just happened to draw in May in Instagram.’ OOOkay.
>only helps pinup artists>illustrators and others should approach the challenge a little differently.
So…Pin-up artists (in the visual art context) aren't illustrators?
>not participating in Mermay
Why does she feel the need to make it sound like she's so above everyone for not participating in something and then thinks she carries any authority in suggesting what people do with a fun monthly theme.
That's what it is by the way, it's a theme
not necessarily a challenge.
This is like that 24 hour comic shit all over again. I really really hope people call her on her shit.
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Art from one of the approved artists. She has an eye for talent, doesn't she?
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Damn, why does everything she make come out so wonky and unappealing
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Sorry but I actually chuckled at the thought of that.
Who is the “we” that she mentions? And how is 100+ artists “relatively small.”
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Another of one of the selected artists. She should have been much more selective.
>>574737>about an underage boy being raped in world of uwu forbidden gay love sin uwu, then you’re a freaking fujoshi.
No, not really. Gay relationships are used for shock value a LOT in fiction because they're not the norm and that's what she's doing. Not out of genuine interest exploring a homosexual relationship. Sexual abuse as a story trope is especially effective if it's gay. >>574858
Haha. It's okay because she made a huge scene about not going with the flow so now she's just doing her OWN THING instead of that stupid #MerMay everyone else is participating in!
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but wait, after that she's going to create one about FMA! Just like the one she got rejected from!
"Fine, I'll make my own zine with blackjack and hookers"
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Ofc holly bought the most expensive watercolor paper. It's totally going to help salvage her mediocore watercolor skills.
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Can anyone explain to me what is that on his rib cage?! Thats not what the muscles there are supposed to look like.
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did any farmers apply for this? if she ever pulls this shit again and i am in a place where i don't care about not working for money, i'm totally going to do it
sage for attention whoring i guess
She could've done the list alphabetically in the first place without having to imply she'd been inconvenienced.
Not every artist has a pen name, and not every artist uses their real name. Deal with it and make the list accordingly.>>574955
Her again, ugh, I had to remove her from my recommended list on youtube, her art is just too dopey looking.
I hope it goes pear shaped and that artists learn their lesson from this.
I legit thought Holly was using the royal "we", because it would not surprise me.
But maybe she has a secret friend now.
I applied but didn't get in, which is alright because I didn't have much art anyway.
And besides, I was actually thinking of dropping out since I already have other projects I needed to do–I immediately regretted applying when I did so this is a breath of fresh air.
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"Yes I want YOU for my zine!"
I swear there was no quality control.
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So are you doing it or not? When is Holly BRown ever sure of anything
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That body is horrid, what the hell?
She could fill a book with studies easily but it's clear she doesn't do them, no wonder she doesn't get any bette.
>>575446>"A lot of artists I picked were based off of interest in MHA."
Haha called it.
However, if you go to TwistedDisaster's gallery they only have one BNHA drawing?
fucking delicious validation
thank friends, keep us posted
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not actually claiming that holly thinks she's oppressed, but jfc. shits drawn like that in anime cause its easier to animate- once again nitpicking shit she has no clue about
Doing the Lord’s work. Thank you.
Key take aways
-for profit, money divided 105 ways
-paid via PayPal, not sending money orders or checks because it would be hard
-under 18s need parents to sign form
-made template for their submissions
-traditional artists need to scan at 300dpi, colors in RGB not CYMK
-using google drive, psd or tiff not jpg
-claims she has a fairly large following but they need to promote it
-there’s going to be another video on costs and distribution, she’s going to be making the books and selling on storenvy
-art finished by end of May, launch in July
It’s so strange to me she made this a video instead of just an email. And has she even explained why these colors? I find them unappealing
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It’s hard to take her seriously when she’s bitching about how curly hair
is represented. Not only is it not a big deal but there were plenty of children’s cartoon characters with curly hair. And don’t look to anime for realism kek besides she’s applauded Afro Samurai for their stylized Afros, is that not the same thing? Or does she think that was a realistic portrayal?
Yeah we've seen her home made books have the exact same problem.
I also can't wait for that cost breakdown video.
it's already looking to be a hot mess. She didn't even think to say 18+ only to get out of the hassle of paying underaged people. not that I think splitting the money 105 ways
will be cutting anyone fat checks anytime soon.
None of what she explained in the video made this whole scheme any less shady, because she said she was going to be the one to print the books.
Wouldn't you think she would want a larger cut of the profit based on that alone? cost of time and materials.
lemme put on my tinfoil hat and postulate that she probably wants to take this to sanjapan, Mark it up and pocket any money it makes, I wouldn't even be surprised. that's why there's a rushed due date on this little project she decided to cook up. so she can profit off other artists' work & have another item in her
store and on her
just a thought. I just can't trust any of it, and I can't be crazy for thinking this…
You can create private drives, and allow only certain email address to have access to them.>>575735
That’s exactly what she said in one of her recent vlogs I think. She wanted a book ready and made with “no effort”. I am not really getting how she’s going to manage this money thing… from how she made it sound like earlier it felt like everybody sold their own copy and got the profit of their own books, now it’s cumulative and then equally split? That’s not really practical or smart, unless it’s only ONE person managing the sales.>>575727
Honestly in more than 10 years of dealing with professional publisher and self publishing this is the first time I see something like this as a BLEED.
The bleed must be the same for each side of the paper, it’s just allowance, you don’t need to have more paper on top and back. You usually do something like this when you’re establishing an internal grid, and you want to have more space below to place page numbers, and on top if you just want to balance the page. But it’s nothing about the cut. Every printing service and stores I’ve been dealing with always requested a fixed margin. This, and the RGB request, show that she doesn’t know anything about printing, and even formatting a book.
Oh god, how many of the artists participating are farmers? I'm the original anon that mentioned getting accepted. Didn't post this, I just got my email.
Honestly, though I've lost all hope of a royalty. She doesn't understand how they work. If this was a pro gig I'd be paid an advance and earn royalties after I earn that out. I feel bad for the artists that think this is a good deal or great exposure. Even when I've worked at tiny presses, advances are standard unless it's scammy af.
So far it looks like two. God speed to the both of you then!
I'm still waiting on the rejection email, not sure if she's sending them out individually but it seems that way–why not use a mass email or something?
She did send a mass email full of typos through mail chimp. I had to dig for it in the promo folder. I wish she'd done a bcc, since they weren't even personalized. But damn, she's great at hammering home the "I'm rushed and you are just art fodder." vibe. Have a strong feeling that unless you a Twisted or something she probs won't even remember you're in the zine.
Also, get this done by may? lolol. Dude, you haven't even decided on the payment plan. We're a third through May.