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HollyBRown is a bad artist, YouTuber, webcomic author, and fujoshi popular with edgy children for her "no bullshit" attitude despite not accepting any criticism.
She beleives she's known for her three webcomics:
Purgatory, her oldest and worst comic, about two gay teens in a cult with lots of rape: https://tapas.io/series/Purgatory
Paranormal Plague, whose most-drawn character hasn't been introduced, with rape DLC: https://tapas.io/series/Paranormalplague
Chroma Prince, her newest Patreon-only NSFW yaoi comic about alien sex slaves, not updated in a month at currently four pages: https://www.patreon.com/hollybrown
She's actually most known for ranting about the CalArts admissions process being unfair even though she was DEFINITELY accepted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TB90iDxOcIg
TWITTER (currently deleted): https://twitter.com/HCBrownart
>Got caught tracing an anime screencap for a painting she intended to sell>Locked her Twitter and scrubbed her social media>Reappeared with a video saying it was just a placeholder for composition, contradicted herself constantly>Dug herself deeper in the comments and is now sharing her views on rape (they're bad)
>Organized a for-profit BnHA zine with over 60 different artists to sell at SanJapan>Complained they didn't meet her abrupt deadline then dragged her feet for weeks>Didn't label any submissions so artists were unidentifiable>Committed to printing them at home, realized that was hard, so closed the zine shop without alerting any of the artists>Sent each artist $20 to blow it over. Some artists got another $20. Some people who pulled out of the zine still received the hush twenty>Accidentally leaked names/addresses/phone numbers of almost every artist in an unlisted but accessible YT video>Took too long to fulfill zine orders, downplayed the zine on all her social media to dissuade anyone from ordering more>Still refused to get the zine printed professionally or even send out a PDF copy>Meanwhile her own webcomic rape yaoi doujinshi was printed professionally in time for SanJapan>Had plenty copies of the BnHA zine herself for SanJapan>Zine artists are now posting photos of the copies they finally received and they have misaligned, poorly cut, and upside-down pages>has still failed to apologize>deleted her twitter and pretended her instagram got reported and remade because she got called out>over 50k in debt>Created new channel
>>757177>it comes and goes in phases with me
well at least she recognizes how completely inconsistent she is about whatever flavor of the month medium she's pretending to be master of.
also how did she forget what product she bought and used???
She's complaining that sumi-e paints don't layer and get opaque…
Does she just buy shit that looks cool without the barest bit of research? No need to answer the question for me, I know the answer is yes.
OP put down Holly’s old Instagram.
Her new one : https://instagram.com/hcbrownart
companies love making money off people who are too retarded to realize you can mix paint and make any colour you could possibly want
what's sad is someone who is a "professional artist" and went to school for x amount of years actually bought into it
OT but afaik for watercolours you're not actually supposed to mix more than a couple colours together because it changes the pigment/opacity/makes them muddy. So like, some colours you really should buy specific ones you're gonna use a lot. Although these ones are just colours mixed with brown/black so idk how much that would matter to get these colours?
It's also really funny to me that she bought these as watercolours but they're actually a different medium entirely and then gets mad that they don't work the same as watercolours kek
she should've scrapped the whole video because nothing she said was valid. she was using Sumi ink as watercolour, calling it watercolour, thought it was an entirely different brand and then shit talking it the whole time. this video was literally useless to anyone. she could've at least annotated it because not everyone is going to read the comments where she corrected herself.
she's like 3 videos into this channel and fucking up bad.
the video is still worthless though because even though they're labeled watercolor, they're not traditional watercolors or meant to be used in that way. she used them wrong and then told her impressionable tween audience they're shit because she didn't do any research. all while calling them the wrong fucking thing in the first place.
if you're going to attempt to educate your audience on a product at least do the most basic research. or try to get the name right at all…
I dont think you understand what >>757626
anon is trying to say, like the reason she didnt do any research was because she thought they were just normal water colour paints and not something thats supposed to be used entirely different. Maybe it's different when buying art suppies online, but typically most people when buying a new art product dont look up the brand because they're just interested in trying something new.
She thought it was watercolour because it said it was watercolour. It turns out it wasn't, but that doesn't mean she's completely at fault for using them wrong since she didn't think they would be any different.
However I do agree that it was dumb since she makes "eductaional" videos about the product shes using without doing any research. Like if you know you're trying a new product and are talking about it to the masses then the least you can do is search up the brand to learn more about it
ntayrt, but you know what that is fair. I didn't realise they were labelled watercolors. It's an understandable mistake to buy them thinking they're watercolors, but definitely made her look ignorant as fuck shitting on them so much tho.
You'd think for someone who is trying to not buy any art supplies at all, she'd at least look up the ONE product she's letting herself buy to make sure it's actually good and not a waste of her purchase.
Honestly Holly should look at reviews before she buys anything like most adults. Because buying anything off eBay, Aliexpress or Amazon means the title is going to have “2018/19 Best Watercolors Professional set 6-24 colors” after the brandname.
Most people I know (me and my friends anyway) go off user reviews and not item names and descriptions since most Chinese Wholesalers don’t put much time or effort into properly detailing said items
That said I can understand the mistake, but Holly has what? At least 5 different sets of paints and watercolor paints so it’s not like she needed them, and she’s shit with using watercolors anyway so it’s not like she can give an accurate review or tutorial with the product so…
Just Holly BRown doing what she does best, wasting her student loan and fans money and shit she doesn’t need, again
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She just copy pasted the face on a fat body idk if that’s how “childify” a character works
Oh my god, is she literally complaining about evil sjw's ans people censoring her characters
again? That didn't last long, she made a weird insta story about how she's going to follow her heart and fuck the haters as well (don't know if it's still up though), good grief.
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mc eschering it already on the first fucking drawing. maybe i'm biased because i did tech drawing in (middle) school, but her solid object draws are so laughable because they really look like a kid playing with the mind-blow of how in 3D, the line at the bottom of the cup isn't a straight line but ~a semicircle
If she's been drawing digitally for a long time it shouldn't be an issue. A lot of artists transitioning from traditional art to digital struggle with the smooth surface at first and might have wobbly lines, but they remedy it by putting a sheet of paper over the tablet until they get used to it.
If she did have this issue she would notice though, you can tell that you're uncomfortable with the smoothness and aren't achieving the lines you're usually getting on paper. I think Holly's problem is more that she just doesn't practice her lines (or anything) and doesn't think about lineweight.
It's mostly to do with drawing from the shoulder, and not the texture of the surface. Most non-artists can be pretty bad at drawing smooth lines or curves because they approach drawing like writing where the wrist leads your pencil/pen.
But like >>759334
said, Holly probably doesn't practice or see what's wrong. She uses undo a lot for the other lines (nothing wrong with that, imo) but not that one, which is why I lean to the latter.
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These cups are horrible I take back my compliments about her object art being cute
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There’s more but it’s all pretty much the same
Weird wobbly lines, super lean and everything looks so… chunky?
I don’t know how to describe it but it all looks weird
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oh nooo she even did it after all. she just tries to muss over the bottoms with some extra scratches because she just cannot get why it doesn't look good.
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holds a cup like that? how can she not see how strange it looks?
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she straight up says she has no idea what the point is >i was not sure where i wanted to go with the d50 series. i wasn't sure what exactly i wanted to get or wanted to achieve out of the things i wanted to draw >the subject of the draw50 videos came up and he was explaining to me like hey why don't you try to make each object you draw have its own personality. […] and so the video kind of turned in to how can i make these weird ass cups
so… because she's constantly running away and not running to anywhere, she just flailed onto the dumbest idea a video concept that would allow her to do her comfort doodles, not concerned about its coherence. She started doing it, realised it's meaningless and got bummed out but was telling this to some person and they condescended to her "What if this [other concept] was what you intended?" ("these shoes are in the off position!") and she latched on to that. yeah yeah p-product design.. th-that's what draw50 is
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Everything is wrong in this picture what is going on?? I know this bitch dont go outside but she has to know what a human looks like ?? right ??
Where’s his jawline? It would help if she actually knew how to draw a real skull and put that into her drawings, the ear, chin and eyes would line up better and this the mouth and nose wouldn’t always be sliding off the face
She’s horrible at this she really is, I just want her to actually practice and not pump out shit all the time
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Sage for doublepost but I answered my own question
This is why she doesn’t get better
Holly if it looks like shot you need to scrap it and redo it all, slower and neater the second time until you get it to look nice
Her instagram is like her twitter and YouTube combined she says and posts the dumbest shit I swear
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And she makes it very obvious she lurks
We’ve been saying this for months now
Ya I laughed at that >every artist has this, maybe not on this finger but when you draw a lot you end up with callouses >like when you draw a lot your fingers bleed
Kek no holly, you draw/write properly with your wrist and arm you don’t damage your hands that severely. I’ve never had my hands bleed even after drawing for hours on end, I ended up pushing my cuticles back and yes they got sore, but never bled, they bleed if you play guitar or sew, not drawing or painting kek
A lot of proper webcomic artists will draw 1 or 2 pages a week, usually the former, so that they have time to make it both look good and function within the story they want to tell.
Those are the people that get approached to get their comics published, because it's already polished from the start.
That's honestly the reason I have no sympathy for her actually.
I know there are a good handful of anons her that sympathize and pity her, and wish she'd do better for herself, I wish the same but when she absolutely refuses at every turn to change herself for the better and make her own situation better, then bitches and complains about it, I just can't feel sorry for her and will continue to laugh at her until she does. It's more infuriatingly funny to me then redundant.
Holly is going to be 28, still a kissless virgin only more bitter and hateful, her art will still be shit and she will have nothing with her life besides sit on her ass and shit up the internet with her shitty art and opinions, and it'll be then when she realizes its her own fault shes like that, and maybe she should have taken the crit and changed before burning every bridge.
I hold my pencil in a similar way to Holly (pencil leaning agains the fourth fingers instead of middle), and I've found that actually way more artists draw holding the pencil like that than you would think. I think it has to do with the wrist and elbow movement needed to write.
Either way it's not great and I have RSI now and really bad callouses on my finger and the inside of my thumb because I studied an essay based degree and boy the number of essays you write will KILL you. But the callous is a nice soft padding. A pillow for your pencil.
SUPER OT, but gunna be honest never saw any other artist hold a pencil like Holly. My little bro and a few other dudes I know hold their pencils/pens like that and they have horrible writing, like they dont have proper wrist and arm control. It just seems so odd to me because holding a pen on my ring finger makes me want to use my fingers to flow not my wrist and thats what I see with Holly. She flows with her fingers and hand, not her wrist and arm.
I guess it's not really a position thing and more a control thing but it just looks and feels odd, not saying its wrong or anything just seems like you have to practice control and flow more then someone who uses their middle finger.
thats the difference I guess, Holly doesnt know how to properly flow or gesture her wrist given her position and never learned to work with and around it.
That really doesnt surprise me at all, tbh
also-side note; I havent had callouses on my fingers since I was in my late teens/early 20's, and I changed up my handcare routine now I dont have a single callous and the area on my middle finger is just a little more tough then the other fingers, and it doesnt get sore or hurt after hours of drawing. (throwing a tip out to hopefully help, care for your fingers anons please!)
OT but I also hold my pencil/pen/etc against the first joint of my ring finger. For ages, especially in high school when I drew a LOT, and years afterward, I had a soft type of callous like you describe right on the side of the joint.
Nowadays I don't write on pen/paper nor draw much at all (sadly) and the callous is completely gone. But I never had issues when I had one. Having it bleed is definitely… alarming to say the least. She has to be overexerting herself and doing some sort of rough or jerky hand movements.
I guess to be fair I've always used my arm+wrist innately.
The truth is it shouldn't bleed. I've sat through 6 hour essay exams and the only thing I got was an extra callous on my thumb area (I know it's a bad way to hold the pencil, I've actually been trying to change it because it's not sustainable rip). Unless she has REALLY DRY HANDS because if so please moisturise because that's a bad look.>>760242
also yeah it's a bit weird because you use your fingers sometimes. It takes active effort to… not do that and to use your whole arm, because holding it against your ring finger actually allows for more swooping motions because of the angle of the pen.
Anyway this is super OT, to loop it back to Holly, she shouldn't be bleeding that's just really bad hand care.
I use to write between my index and middle finger throughout elementary and students and teachers would call it out so I started to hold my pencils "correctly" and developed a callous in that same spot.
This properly answers why her sketching is so scratchy since she only only uses her wrist motion which is extremely limited. Even then, how would your hands bleed from that? Im genuinely curious because where would it bleed from?
I thought she would give up livestreaming ?
Guess the old Holly's back
“I think I’m getting ANOTHER silver play button by the end of this year LOL had to make a new channel cause I was acting like a cunt so lmfao”
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She's doing commissions on stream for 20 USD a pop and making a tidy little sum too, her current wait list is over 200 dollars alone.
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Finished first comission
I was also positively surprised, but I have a feeling at least parts of this are traced. I don't believe Holly BRown actually has this level of skill, though I might be wrong.
The knee kind of irks me as odd, but I don't see the foot so I can't really judge it.
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Finished the second one
Personally, i think this one's better
Shit man, good on her for doing commissions. Probably not as stable as most jobs, but it`s better than how she used to beg for money for things she didn't need while sitting on her ass at home doing nothing. At least this way people can watch her livestreams and know exactly what they're getting (not only by seeing the final drawings, but also the amount of effort and time that she puts into them). Though she's charging a cheap-ish price, so that`s not much to complain about really.
The lean is so fucking strong on that list though. I really think she tilts her head at a weird angle when she writes and draws or something.
Hey these are alright! Like she sat down and tried to practice SOME basics before doing this. Still her standard stiffness, blocky weird lines and horrible positioning and lean but it's an improvement.
I'm not hopeful tho, I get the feeling this is going to stop as soon as she started because Holly can't commit to anything, and she's going to give up on trying to be a bit more perfectionist over her work…>>760585
Nah, she tried commissions before and she barely put an effort in when she did, and got pissy about it not even half way through and said she wouldnt be doing commissions again. This is for money and followers because she needs that $$$ and her real body of work will only look like this on the off chance.
why has she suddenly done drawings that are 10x better than her comic art?? the anatomy, the lines…
(except for that grody top lip)
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third and last one
imagine holly doing vore porn, i shudder at the thought>>760643
none of the anons here are saying these are amazing, just better than what she usually puts out. holly has barely improved for the last 3 years so seeing even a little improvement in her skill and attitude is good and hopefully she keeps the momentum.
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can this person fucking not?>>760502>tidy sum
not in the end. she did 3 over like 8 hours and made… $60
I mean she was paid up front, so yes, she has over 200 bucks in her pocket now. She just hasn't done the work yet.
Speaking of, her sketching process is so tedious to watch. She does like 2-3 sketches on top of each other before finally inking and takes forever.
tbh it's better than just rushing it , I've done this especially if its for a client whos paying for the art.
though her inking could be sped up .
Her constantly going over her sketches like that progressively stiffens her art. It's fine to refine a sketch but eventually you have to bite the bullet and line it. >>760507
Her lip looks swollen.
why have multiple sketch layers? it'd be more efficient and easier to fix mistakes on the one sketch layer and work with that, and her lining looks like bad sketching most times anyway, she never cleans up her linework.
yeah, watching her going over her sketches repeatedly and seeing them going from fluid/dynamic to stiff and 2D is depressing.
watching her stream now and i'm surprised she actually closed her commissions for the time being, since she loves to overwork herself and line her pockets.
She tried after someone recommended it to her. She said it was shit. “a waste of $20” since she got it on sale.
She thinks anything new isn’t worth using. Just like them webs that won’t stop using Sai, even though it’s a bad art program, or at least the old pirated version everyone has is bad and outdated as shit.
>>760868>her cat Sam had to be declawed because he's polydactyl??
did she go into why? polys don't NEED to be declawed
mine had an extra claw coming out of his pad we needed to take care of every few years, but most poly's claws are like every other cat's regular claws.
sage for cat claw sperg
A lot of artists use ps tho
Which are the better programs?
PS is flexible for heaps of shit but if your just doing digital art like sketches and nothing else Photoshop is overkill.
Paint tool sai, Medibang, Krita and Mangastudio are fine replacements. PS is like it says more for photo manipulation and photography type stuff though it is possible to do sketches/digital drawing in it its needlessly complex for such a simple purpose.
Really you only want to use PS for certain editing and possibly sketch clean up/vectoring, but for digital drawing it's a cloggy, often RAM heavy program. Like >>760881
listed, there are many other options, Mangastudio/PaintClip Studio are vastly superior options for Holly to be using but it's a learning curve when trying new programs so she probably gave it like a day then gave up because she couldn't use it 'exactly like PS'
Besides if you want to use an Adobe program for digital art you're best off using Flash or whatever they call it now, but Holly hated that and TV paint too because it was 'too hard to use'
And they're not, you just have to take the time to learn to use them. I wonder how many art programs she has sitting on her computer now, never being used.
She tried saying in >>759987
that she has no idea if Clip Paint was compatible with her Cintiq (it is, it's called Google Holly use it) so I'm guessing thats one of her excuses for not switching over, because she'd have to spend time rebinding keys to her tablet and figuring out the shortcut keys etc.
I spent maybe a week fully figuring out Clip Paint Studio and it didnt have to take me that long, I was having fun figuring out everything the program had to offer, but I guess that would cut back on the time she has for the 10,000,000 pages of comics she puts out a day, and she couldn't possibly waste time like that /s
ever wanted to watch Holly eat McDonalds? watch this THRILLING stream~
she does look happier though which is good
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Her room is yet again,(no surprise tbh) Filthy AF
it's not AS cluttered as it used to be, def cluttered and untidy tho
she looks really tired here ngl
ugh I think so too! I tried finding the same mic as her as well( because i like the color) but it seems like its not being made or sold anymore. I just wish she could manage to keep her room clean and coordinate some other stuff to make it look cuter
…. also that open can is just begging for ants! I don't know how she can live, or eat for that matter, in her own filth.
like anybody actually believed that for a second
she needs to actually find other women ATTRACTIVE to be somewhat considered bi.
Nah its much better than Holly's normal stuff since the composition is pretty solid and the scene actually makes sense. Everything else is a bit meh.
I know Holly lurks on here so my advice to her would be to actually try to accurately redraw the screenshot before redrawing it in her own style. That way she can learn the nuances of the scene before choosing which parts she wants to stylize and bring attention to.
>>763063>>763299>>763304>the scene actually makes sense
not really? I had to look up the actual scene from beetlejuice and I didn't even know that was who she was drawing until she said it in the video.
She doesn't add the actual screenshot from what I can see, just says that her redraw will look like shit when compared to the original (paraphrased). Even then, the feel I got from her redraw is that the suit guy is belittling the shrunken head like a head-villain-to-underling-type interaction but that isn't at all how the scene plays out. Maybe it's her dreamworks brows at it again
also>i flip my canvas a lot because my art is wonk
and yet she still has so much lean? HOW?
really? she didn't show the fucking actual screenshot in the video?
anyway.. she gave beetlejuice that horrid dangly style of tie that she only knows how to draw and gives everyone. Is this a Texas style of tie? Even if so it's so ugly. looks like it's just slid down and not on properly and is going to get caught in something
she does have a sketch under that, she just turns them green to hide them because she says she thinks it looks cool to have her lines come from nothing. if you watch her streams you'll see she does actually map out her composition with shapes.
so…she just sucks tbh.
As a fellow ex-holly fan, I also used to relate to a lot of the things she said. But I started to realise that there were so many things she said that were just wrong. TBH I followed her because she had these interesting merch making videos and I thought they were very snazzy, but then she started to lord about the fact she's a different artist and she uses ink and she does studies and uses toned paper, it was pretty iffy.
She has good art. I mean, if you look at that one video about storyboarding, she did a w hole thing with a tiger and a zebra, and a few of those compositions were pretty good! But somehow she never translated that into her normal work which is so frustrating to see.
It's so easy to get caught up in yourself, though, which is what Holly has done. She constantly plays the victim and never thinks before she speaks, which is why somme people love her and most people hate her. There's being blunt and there's just being downright obnoxious.
(weak way to start the thread off again- no, dummy that is why the news shows that. go watch Nightcrawler etc. You can still post the video even if it's got nothing worth commenting on)
More on topic, Holly's just rehersing/resaying the same things she already stated, because she doesn't really internalise it. Also per her ig story she's making no yt money now >your estimated revenue $0.77
Lol, the irony. This is really the best time for her to be working on her comics though. No school, no financially motivated "obligation" to YT (not that she was ever under contract or anything, but now she makes zilch from it), and she's probably only working part-time if she does have a job. She's never going to get the same YT following that she used to after moving to a new account, as if all of the drama didn't affect her past views enough. If she had an actual Patreon schedule, she could be making some cash off of just updating her comics early on there and showing concept stuff.
But nope, gotta be a useless ~aesthetic~ art-tuber! Deleting her first twitter was also a bad idea in terms of getting more readers. Wonder how long it`ll be until she blows up again about how she's so poor and works so hard and spends so much $$$, why aren`t you guys buying my shitty originals.
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New purgatory pages
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these aren't even horrible but the lack of backgrounds makes it look so boring and empty
>set scenes in an ornate cathedral >draw it partially using 3d models maybe 2 or three times and thats it >extremely low effort flat grid for the floor reminiscent of tron
what the fuck? it could be a cinderblock apartment for all the visual information you give us, holly. I know you can't into perspective but jeeze
I’m not gonna lie, part of me is grateful. This whole thing only has one panel of that awful wood texture.
I guess for Holly it’s either a panel that’s too crowded or one that’s completely empty be of backgrounds or people. To me the only panel that looks okay is the large middle panel here >>768974
and that’s if you ignore weird perspective on the people placed in it.
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I thought they were in the Matrix construct. Lol how the three men here >>768964
are pasted into this void from the previous page.
Jesus these are all awful
She really barely made any improvements, perspectives of all the characters are fucked like none of them look like they are in the same place or even touching each other when they are actually touching each other.
All the hands are even more mitten-like then usual, everyone looks constipated, and what in the actual fuck is happening with the two old guys >>768966
walking away? It's like they're walking up a slanted wall with broken ankles.
Weird lines everywhere that look like they're shadow lines and she forgot to fill in said shadows, then she was too lazy to even use the 3D bg's in the panels, all of this is literally a purgatory.
She can kinda draw hair now… a bit. I mean she knows how to make it look less like a lego piece put on their heads, it all still looks like one solid clump.
I'm sorry but this is just sad, she's regressed so much it's obvious she doesn't give a fuck about this anymore. Sorry for the tl;dr but holy shit Holly give a fuck for a while will you? At least for your fans that still read this hot garbage?
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This fucked me up
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I can't remember is the dad meant to be gay or gay.. sympathising? i mean look at this. (which, btw, you can see straight through to holly's own face as the model).
he doesn't seem to put any weight behind his 'no funny business' instruction.
btw the whole interaction seems to shift jarringly in tone
>i'm really worried about him
>now hurrr hurr i hold the keys up high tehee
i admit i don't know the characters
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sorry it's not milk but i clicked her stories and then was like wait what am i watching, who is this i thought i clicked holly brown. so what the fuck it turns out she is cute? she looks.. like a babe? not like a femcel fujo?
You're entitled to your opinion anon but 'babe' isn't the word.
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The art lean is still pretty bad. Holly is still using contour lines instead of drawing through the subject using principles of under drawing. I like seeing Holly push herself and get out of her comfort zone.
It'd probably be beneficial to Holly to isolated studies of the human face and body. I know that this might be something Holly thinks she above doing but it's obvious that she didn't take her anatomy study very seriously.