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No. 579925

Most well known for her cal-arts rant, where she bitches about how hard it is to get in while claiming to have gotten in. Also known for giving shitty advice to impressionable beginners.

Tumblr: http://hollycbrown.com/

Mirror of aforementioned Cal-Arts rant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvnD-9XOs5k

>21 year old "freelancer" (lives at home with her mother and runs an online shop selling ugly art)

>Salty Youtube fujoshi artist that claims that her art is superior because she went to art school
>Constantly preaches that art takes hard work, claims to always practice and study but her art hasn't improved in over two years
>Whines about being a starving artist with no money, yet has enough money to buy a new Mac computer and a Cintiq tablet within the same week, then sold said cintiq because she got sponsored for her shitty shitty art
>When faced with genuine criticism, she replies with "it's my style hurrr get over it!!"
>Whines about nobody buying from her online store, but when people do, she whines about having to package and ship off her items
>Pandering to the Musicals crowd to get more Youtube $$$
>Claims to be the only non tumblrina artist and is a textbook tumblr fujo
>Generally insufferable and shitty person

In the previous thread:
>Animating without knowing the fucking basics and continuously shitting on well established pros (Disney, Pixar, Egoraptor, Butch Hartman)
>Holly contradicts her own shitty art opinions by not following through with them
>Starts her own MHA/BNHA zine after being rejected from an FMA zine with over 100 contributors. Profits being split 100 ways.
>Constantly making new projects when she hasn't even finished one of them yet
>Makes fun of styles that have more life than anything she's very produced
>Plans to table at SanJapan this fall (farmers, report back)

No. 579930

Previous thread >>>/snow/550611

No. 580128

It's really telling when you try to copy a bad art style to be facetious and it actually turns out to be a bit of an upgrade

No. 580152

Ikr? All of the styles she showcased were better than her own, and I think that's super telling about how she views her own work. Honestly, the fact that she also thinks her style is comparable to the likes of FMA and NGE shows that there's some sort of delusion or blindness going on that can't be healthy for her artwork.

I think Holly needs to do one of those art vacations where you just don't draw for a while, like a week or month or so, in order to get a fresh look at how hideous her work has become over the years.

No. 580159


holly is literally the first person i think of when i read Bad Tumblr Art lmao

to her credit, she does mention it and her opinions are quite agreeable imo, but once again due to her prescription retard vision goggles she fails to emulate the styles she's shit talking to an acceptable level anyway.

SO as usual her hypocrisy is meme-tier as she's fuckin.. sitting there tweeting about how hard she works and how much of a professional she is and these tumblr autists (who a lot of the time are minors or hobbyists) have linework/composition/character design 50x better than hers. Would honestly be a decent video if she didn't try to draw examples and just did that self aware shit she do and rip on her own art

No. 580168

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Pretty sure she will bend the rules and fail the challenge. It’s going to be rich, she has no idea what this thing really is. I wish I could open her a new butthole about this.

BTW I’m kinda disappointed in the op pic, I wanted the bingo. Also I think she’s 22 now. let’s bring it up here too, please, it’s to precious to let it die.

No. 580174

Wasn’t she complaining about the 24-hour comics a while ago because they weren’t “real comics”? Now suddenly it’s something shes “always wanted to do”. Ok Holly BRown…

No. 580181

Just watched Holly's new art style video. Is it just me or does it feel like she is she slowly becoming less offensive in her new videos? I feel like if she made this video in the past she would have probably spent more time shitting all over the different art styles before ending with saying something along the lines of how unprofessional most tumblr users are.

TBH I preferred the old crass Holly to this boring inoffensive mess she is turning into. I mean at least her old videos were entertaining to watch, her new stuff is just pointless rambling on top of bad art.

No. 580218

Maybe she’s actually realizing that she shouldn’t be shitting on literally everyone and everything if she wants to get a job. I doubt it honestly but wishful thinking?

No. 580219

Lol if that was true she should try purging her social media so that the first thing potential clients see wouldn't be her whining about having to actually work.

No. 580224

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she do be doing dat

No. 580242

Hopefully, she does the same with her channel lmao

No. 580303

Should have made the thread then with your own pic. everyone was flooding the last thread with nonsense and not making a whole new thread, so it was either hurry and make this thread or have the last thread locked without a new one.

she was bitching about "hourly" comics, which is when the artists draw what they did for that hour. 24 hour comics is when you draw 24 pages of comics in 24 hours. which is crazy for Holly. she has the work ethic but clearly not the speed to make it happen

No. 580338

it won't matter how much she deletes, when anyone with half a brain looks up her name they'll run into her shitty art or these boards anyway.

No. 580352

I feel like every time we are close to the post limit people flood the thread with nonsense.

No. 580449

Please. She doesn’t have ethic, she just pretends to be devoted to what she does. The reason she dropped the 100days OF making comic is because she couldn’t stick to a schedule or just slow down to one/two hours of work per day.
I’m pretty sure she takes so long to draw pages because, in addition to her being slow as fuck, she probably took infinite amount of breaks to fuck around.
There’s no way she could make it but I admit I’d love to see her try and fail miserably.

Also I’m the anon who contested the op pic. That bingo pic wasn’t mine and I don’t know how to create/manage thread so I’m glad you did it, but it wasn’t meant to be an insult to you or your AESTHETICS (imagine that read in holly’s Voice). We’re cool, dude :)

No. 580836

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You right. Also, side note, I love how in the description of her ~*professional*~ website it has all those godawful file names she didn’t bother to change. Such a great online presence BRown.

No. 580883

Oh that's awful that lolcow is one of the top searches for her. She's unhireable as fuck

No. 581014

oh fuck that's depressing

No. 581025

Oh my god that is absolutely hilarious, this bitch is fucked for life!

No. 581109

I mean that’s why a lot of online artists don’t use their real name. I don’t know what Holly was thinking especially when she deals with such ‘controversial’ topics.

No. 581146

You see, it's not even that she deals with controversial topics. It's just her attitude and her incapability of not being rude/offensive while talking about others.
If she really wanted to work in the industry she should have avoided shitting on everybody who ever lived, and attacking/CORRECTING professionals.
She can delete everything she wants, but what will ultimately fuck up her chances of being hired is how sloppy she is, how she refuses to go back to fundaments and her non existent social skills.

Industry work is mostly networking, the rest is being able to communicate and cooperate. She doesn't have any of these "skills". I mean, they could be easily achieved, but she doesn't want to because she's too attached to her bitchy internet persona.
Guess what: nobody wants to work with an angry, frustrated, lacking self awareness brat.

And it's not like she's being controversial in a spontaneous way. She always does researches on what pisses people off so that she can make a video out of it. She ALWAYS tweets about "this will receive so many hate comments, lol" and stuff like that.
thing is: if you KNOW it's going to be a shitshow, just don't do it. I can understand not being able to shut up for a couple issues, but digging in the dirt just for views and then expected to be taken seriously as a professional is another thing.

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Another horse

No. 581437

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Nice job trying to copy khantaya's bakugou, Holly BRown.

No. 581477

What kind of lean horse is that big compared to a normal sized person cuz the only horses I can think of are the clydesdale and even then it wouldn't be that large and would have a much more thicker frame

No. 581485

No. 581495

I was looking through her tumblr and found this and I cannot tell whats supposed to be happening

No. 581521

TBH I think she straight out traced a similiar pose (OF COURSE she had Khan's in mind, she even comments under her stuff) because the arm anatomy is quite decent and the hands works. THey're also weirdly clean and lack some definition where you would have drawn lines if you actually drew the picture instead of tracing the main lines.

No. 581546

how to know you’ve fucked up your future in a single picture

No. 581563


Nah, the arms and hands don't work, but I do think she traced certain elements, which is why it looks ten times as lifeless. I guess she figured Khan doesn't have quite the following she does, and the picture is old enough that she could just ape it for herself. If she ends up finishing it, I hope she gets called on her shit.

And if she ends up not finishing it/deleting the post, she'd be just as guilty because it's here now.

No. 581613

The best part about the Bakugo drawing, if it turns out she traced it, is that she gave him this weird pole neck.

No. 581620

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I thought it was fitting that tweet deleter was a suggested follow on Holly's tweeter

No. 581670

I only found out about Holly from these threads (I'm not familiar with the artist community at all) and I have this weird thing where I like her art style because it's not too anime influenced and not too cartoony (red noses, spaghetti limbs, etc.) it sticks out. I like that she draws older male characters with strong jaws, stress lines, cleft chins rather than only cute boys, it's pretty unique to me. BUT I love these threads picking apart her awkward anatomy, flaws, mistakes and fucked up art along with her shitty attitude. I like her art style but I love to cringe at it more.

No. 581695

can Holly not be fucked to look at a picture of an actual horse? or an actual rider on an actual horse? or even what a saddle looks like???

No. 581935

Wow, that sucks. Personally I'd rather watch paint dry than look at her work. She has zero passion or feeling in all of her pieces, there's no substance in anything that she does.
You can say what you want about people with those types of styles, at least most of them actually love and put meaning into what they do. Holly is a boring, bitter bitch with no personality and it shows into every fucking thing she does

No. 581971

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Sorry it bothers you so much that I kind of like her art style for some of her older male characters. Never said she has any passion or substance, or that people of other styles don't have love or meaning in their work. I don't like Holly or what she does other than cringing. Jesus, anon.

No. 582004

different anon- but why did you come onto a board specifically made to hate an artist, say that you like her art, and then get upset that someone else disagreed? lmao

No. 582006

Ok anon. Idk why you needed to share that but you do you.

No. 582009


No. 582016

I don't really like her art, just some characters. I don't care about anything else with her art other than anons pointing out flaws. Not upset that anon disagreed, just surprised at the reaction like I was WKing Holly or something.

Now that I re-read it I don't really know either. Guess I had it on my mind and just felt like posting it.

No. 582020

pointless conversations like these are the reasons why these threads run out of space so quickly

No. 582186

You do know we can make an infinite amount of threads right. Calm down it’s on topic and it’s saged stop bitching.(minimodding)

No. 582188

Dumbass blogpost probably dont kill me but this is why more popular threads tend to annoy me eventually because anons get bored and nitpick when theres no milk and then the threads just turn into infighting horseshit from retards that cant sage their shit

No. 582216

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And yet you both just participated by contributing absolutely nothing.

In other news, Holly is a ~*comedy*~ ~*queen*~

No. 582229

>>No. 582216
She have never make me laugh not even when I like her, she is not funny only cringe.

No. 582258


trust me, no one is missing out on your shitty art or gags.

No. 582267

You're on a hate forum, what do you expect? Also OP said they saged so what is you problem anyways?

People just listen to her dumb videos because they don't want to blind themselves with her awful art.

No. 582423

sage for ot, but this is too relevant to the holly discussion imo im sorry

this is just a video I was linked to today where a professional concept artist actually shares the same shitty views as holly and I thought I'd never see the day.

Is this really where concept art, illustration, and animation is going, guys? Shitty traced 3-D models everywhere. 18:00 he brings up the 3-D models.

No. 582460

You might want to watch that talk again anon. We're talking about concept art a totally different thing Holly's attempting. 'Concept' art that's really what it is, their job description is more about creating ideas and concepts, but its got to be fast and bloody efficient so they use photo-bashing because it would take fucking months to digitally paint that many designs. Mind you, concept art is usually used for video game designs, concepts for films and also storyboarding. You might think its shitty but concept artists play a big role in the industry, I wouldn't knock it, and it's fucking HARD to get into. As for illustration and animation, they're also two different fields and there's still a lot of traditional illustration. Animation is going more 3D but this is nothing new.

Clearly they do this for efficiency and got into the job from their skills however Holly doesn't know her fundamentals at all and she isn't trying to be a 'concept artist'. What even is she.

saged for ot blogpost

No. 582476

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what holly's doing is nothing like photobashing. photobashing is like pic related - ugly as sin, but it gets the job done, and can be passed on later in the line to be refined and turned into models/finalised """concept""" art (really just promo art), etc.

obviously different styles of games have different styles of concepting - the more cartoony the more likely the figures will be drawn mostly from scratch.

saged for sperging about concept art.

No. 582484

Holly doesn’t photobash, she just traces really badly. I still can’t wrap my mind around the fact that Holly somehow manages to mess up her traced pieces.

No. 582487

If Holly actually managed to create good work drawing on top of models from google sketchup or something I honestly wouldn’t complain but even her traced work look bad and show that she does not even have a basic understanding of fundamentals.

No. 582549

You clearly don't know much about concept art if you're comparing that style of production of artwork to holly.

He's just giving a brief of what goes on and doesn't go too into depth of just how much skill is truly needed to create believable concepts,

and it doesn't mean your art is shitty for using references of other art or tracing over 3d rendered models that they've created so that the drawn concept is even more believable

Please don't compare holly's shit to a legitamatr style of art that she doesn't even draw in. She does comics not concept work epically not at a professional level

Sageing for bitchy-ness but fuck, concept art isn't lazy for using the tools accessible to them so that they can convey an idea so that production can take place

No. 582629

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I gotta disagree, I think these shortcuts are lazy in any field and ultimately make artists that don't understand fundamentals, but the discussion is pretty important imo Always good to hear other artists thoughts : )

No. 582645


You gotta know the rules to be able to break the rules. First, you get good. Then you get faster, all that jazz.
Holly never got good, she skipped out on that part entirely and opted for speed.
Being an individual working on a project, it would behoove you to know the foundations like the back of your hand, and take the time to do things right, even if it means doing it slower.

But if you're in a studio environment, it pays to know the fundamentals, and then be able to work as effectively and efficiently as possible so that you can hand the work you did off to the next person who needs to add or refine it. there's nothing lazy about quickness, when you know your fundamentals well first. If a studio is hiring people that don't at least have that, then they probably aren't putting out good work, if any.

Holly is someone who takes a cursory glance at something and says to herself "tch, I can do that. I can do that better and I can do it faster" and her end result always ends up looking sloppy because she fails to realize she can't have it both ways. yet she wants to pass it off as "work ethic" when she can't even give the basics the time of day.

No. 582686

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She updated the mermay video on twitter and i still have no idea whats going on. She's not going to get hired as a story board artist if she can't construct a narrative without using words.

No. 582701

How do these shortcuts make concept artists lazy? Concept art is about creating Concepts, not final art pieces you hang in galleries. I wouldn't even call it "art", it's more equivalent to architecture as it is the foundation to build the rest of the game/movie on, which is the final consumable product. Illustrators who use shortcuts like this to be lazy (holly) are just shooting themselves in the foot. But just like photoshop has an undo button, these tools make the process faster for professionals, not give mediocre artists a way to skip on fundamentals.

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No. 582864

She shouldn't be trying to educate people on mermaid anatomy bc she obviously doesn't understand it herself. Also the tail is way too long how could anyone think that looks ok

No. 582889


The fuck is that skeleton? She doesn't have any right to be making anatomy tutorials.

No. 582902

I’m H.C. BRown I think mermay is lame and artists I should not do it, so I’m going to do it and teach you, but I’m not doing mermay no it just so happens that I want to draw mermaids there is a different guy.
I really hate her.

No. 582903

She doesnt know human anatomy, and wants to make a video of mermaid anatomy???? Seriously? Is she this self unaware??

No. 582933

How convenient it is that, despite representing the same pose and angle of the flesh version, the skeleton one is seen flat from the back instead of 3/4?
Learn your fucking anatomy, Holly.

No. 583011


Nineteen minutes of this bullshit? Fuck that noise.

No. 583012

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Only comment that seems to make any sense

No. 583033

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I don’t think anybody is asking for this, you just want to do them. To get money cause everybody is doing mermay but BRown is unique so this is not for the money but cause someone ask her.

No. 583040

Honestly, it's autistic af when people try to tell others their mythical made up creature anatomy is wrong. Reminds me of dudebros who will yell at you for drawing fat lady elves because apparently elves are supposed to be tall and slim.

No. 583055

Shouldnt the dorsal fin line up with the spine? Also I dont think anyone should be taking anatomy advice from someone that refers to where the leg meets the bottom as "the ass".

No. 583132

She misspells "eels" like 5 minutes in.

No. 583187

God I hate this video so much, everyone knows they don't LITERALLY mean "the tumblr art style" as in every tumblr artist draws in this style. They just call it the tumblr art style cause it originated from tumblr. Talk about taking the term too literally

No. 583335

what's worse is that she acknowledges she fucked up in the beginning of the video, and then moves it into a position that STILL isn't lined up with the spine. How do you even fuck up that badly jfc

No. 583463

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Well Holly, maybe they’re just being honest. Like you do.

No. 583467

Maybe english is not their first language, no need to be an asshole

No. 583477

for fuck's sake anons, it's a funny broken English email that says "we want to do an exploitation"
>picking on people who speak English as a second language
let's not become worse than the cows yeah?

No. 583481

Anon, what I meant is that Holly is constantly saying that she’s blunt and people are pussy if they’re offended the way she speaks, but she feels “offended” by a blunt email, even if it’s pretty clear the bluntness comes from not knowing the language.
She’s also really into shitting on other people’s typos and grammar saying people can’t write and assuming everybody is a native.

I would never make fun of the email or that broken English, you totally misunderetood.

No. 583495

English stuff refers to the other anon's post.

>but she feels “offended”

no she doesn't. She was making a joke. People fall into such low expectations of cows etc. that when the cow ever does something lighthearted it flies right by them

The joke is that the email uses the word exploitation, which is second language interference where in that language it means profit or something, but by happenstance in English it means we're trying to exploit you, hence the humor. Nothing in her post is making fun of grammar or writing skills or anything just stop

No. 583519

Thanks for the explanation. You’re right, I totally didn’t see it as a joke.

No. 583662


People REALLY need to learn what the word offended means. Complaining, making a joke, or otherwise disagreeing is not the same as being "offended."

No. 583663

Holly is an idiot to make fun of people who are trying to give her a job opportunity. It’s pretty irresponsible to post something like this on an account directly connected to her real name and face.

No. 583686


Even if it's a scam, she couldn't have just left it alone and quietly deleted it. Nothing about what she does is subtle, she wants to post every little thing that happens to her so she can get a reaction out of her followers and stay relevant.

No. 583718

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So she's in her final year and this is what she's doing? like, I understand sometimes upperclassmen take basic classes late, but damn this is seriously some 101 shit. The only reason she is taking these classes is because her aunt/mom expects her to.

No. 583737

>identify and explore custom brushes in Adobe Photoshop


No. 583749

In my experience this is how all art classes are at liberal arts colleges, you need to go to an actual art school to get into advanced stuff

No. 583952

holly is at an "art school" but this sounds like an assignment they'd give you for the only digital art class available in a state university art program (speaking from experience lmao) her online art school sounds so shitty

No. 583957

If I remember right she is enrolled in an actual art school. Its just their online school is really terrible and dear Holly apparently doesn't know how to research before committing to something

No. 584420

Didn’t Holly once say in a video that ‘H’s in Japanese are silent? She pronounces Uchiha as Uchi-A

No. 584505

She's an absolute idiot.

No. 584582

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No. 584587

Isn't Hershel Hispanic? She complains about everything, if you don't like characters like that don't read them.

I doubt a writer is gonna change their characters because BRown and her shitty attitude said to.

No. 584607


She’s one to talk since she hates Mexicans and immigrants so fucking much lmfao

No. 584648

literally what is she talking about? nobody writes characters talking like that anymore, except maybe japanese creators but that's a whole another can of worms- and quentin tarantino as a fcking joke and nobody has taken him seriously in like 10 years.
she wants to make it appear she knows better, when her own mexican character so far seems to be the exact mexican gardener stereotype and she constantly keeps talking about how he's hot and buff. ew. love how this is clearly 100% coming from a place of wanting to appear better and smarter than other people instead of being worried about hispanic people getting stereotyped in media.

No. 584655

I kind of love how her example of bad dialogue is “what’s up, ese?”
that’s some basic ass casual shit that some dude on the street would say, but maybe that’s just me basing it off my surroundings vs. hers

No. 584666

which character of hers is mexican?

No. 584709

Hershel. The one with black/purple hair?

What’s interesting to me is that she bitches about people writing Hispanic characters that way but her Hispanic character is bland and forgettable cause she can’t give him any personality.

No. 584712

tbh she's not wrong

No. 584713

How the fuck is a character with the epitome of a Jew name and a bump on his nose supposed to be a Mexican. jeez this retard

No. 584776

He was white at the very beginning. Guess changing names wasn’t an option.
Big crooked noses can happen in every ethnicity, though.

No. 584793

That's true, but Herschel or whatever definitely looks like he's straight up Jewish

No. 584822

Her "muscly" purple haired OC is Hispanic, as well as the one with fish scales, green hair, black skin.

Yeah Holly can complain that making Hispanic characters too stereotypical is "problematic", but making them not even remotely resemble their native peoples is just as bad imo. Like if I made a black emo and gave him a jewish name and told people he was Chinese it's just confusing and stupid.

Both Hershel and that green haired abomination were white in the beginning. Pretty sure Holly just changed them to random grab-bag skin colors and nationalities because she wanted social justice points/money.

No. 584943

she's just fucking bad at drawing people that aren't white. We saw that with the human nick wilde she drew. Her character Princess looks like a white person with a coat of paint. she just doesn't know how to draw. but we knew that already

No. 584945

And the sad thing is that if she's confronted with this, she'll just bleat "MUH STYLE" or "THAT'S A STEREOTYPE TO DRAW PLACK PEOPLE WITH BIG NOSES AND LIPS", but like. All races have different characteristics. It's just important to be respectful and not draw it as a caricature.

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No. 585010

She literally gets bothered anytime anyone doesn anything remotely different than her. Its a stylized nose holly. Get over it. She needs to stop telling people what they can or cant draw like with her stupid mermaid anatomy video

No. 585019


Am I the only one who thinks this looks like… SO much better than her own style. Holly's art might actually be tolerable if it always looked like this.

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She always has to shit on art styles different from hers. She’s drawing what looks like a typical cutesy anime girl so of course she’s gonna turn her nose at moe styles (which yeah they’re usually bad but the point is to add as minimal features for maximum cute effect). Kyoani does this all the time and are masters at drawing cute girls, but even then they add shadows to frontal views so the noses have more depth. Holly’s art can never be cute it’s just beyond fucking ugly and irreparable.

No. 585059

whats up with her ears tho ??????
they look so weird ??

No. 585062

The ears look bad, the eyes too… She always draws the face too narrow, theres meant to be one eye space between the eyes and here they are too close together

No. 585064

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No one asked for this

No. 585073

No. 585064
Does are nor re-designs they are her outfit/styles to fit the music video.

No. 585198

Jesus, her linework is so terrible. How can she look at those big crooked lumps of solid black and not think "maybe I should give this another go".

No. 585278

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What did Miku even do to deserve this, leave her alone ffs

No. 585293

I started looking at the legs thinking "Oh okay, this isn't absolutely awful" but then I got to the arms and just… what even is that?? Her left arm is pointing oddly backwards and isn't proportional, and the lighting makes little to no sense.

No. 585299

Those are some detached arms lmao. The shading is so uneven that some parts look like a figure while the rest are flat. There's no weight either

No. 585308

What a surprise. It's astoundingly underwhelming.

No. 585311

The two pigtails dont even match! One is longer and has more hair (a clump of iy is shorter than the rest wtf), the skirt also looks so fucked up

No. 585325

The fact that this is actually ten times better than her own style is really telling.

We've found the reasons other than anatomy why her art is so horrible, the way she draws noses and horribly same face eyes.

This is honestly incredibly bizarre.

No. 585326

Is she using that image as evidence of artists redesigning Miku???

Hey Holly, newsflash: Those aren't redesigns–those are different AUs/styles based on what song she's in.

No. 585338

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Not even mentioning the horrendous works on the limbs here, but God. Look at these eyes. Can't she for once try and draw a well balanced face, or is that too hard for a "professional" artist like her? Also as I'm writing this I just realized she even forgot to draw an eyebrow. Miku deserves better…

No. 585352

the more I look at her legs, the more confused I get because they don't seem to attach properly to the rest of her body at all? to say nothing of those escaping arms, holy shit. also the paw hand, lol. even her feet are detaching or drawn at the wrong angle, like the closest foot.. what is happening there?

and maybe this is nitpicky but it bothers me how thin the ends of her pigtails are and how much detail Holly put into the hair there… but then you get to her head and it's basically just a few fat spikes on top of her head with no movement or depth. it looks like a starfish died there omg

thanks Holly, I hate it

No. 585466

Your red lines would still look shitty.

No. 585532

She always dulls out any vibrancy into a hot puke color palette.

Also on the subject of ethnic characters, she can say her characters are anything she wants. but, all of them are so bland, you can't even tell the difference between any of them. she hasn't got a clue how to weave culture or character or life into a single one of her characters because they're all just dolls for her to smash together.

No. 585798

File: 1526530300509.png (58.59 KB, 555x492, 837468324.png)

kek saw this on my twitter feed and instantly thought of holly's video, I wonder if this person is talking about her?

No. 585801

Art teachers normally hate the "anime art style" because when weaboo high schoolers try to emulate a style, it looks like shit. The tumblr art style is no different. It's ugly and shows how out of practice/reliant on style the artist making it is.

No. 585947

i doubt it's directed at holly, every shitty youtube artist and their mama have been making videos mocking the "tumblr art style" lately. she ain't special

No. 586223

File: 1526573841096.jpeg (166.17 KB, 640x445, 8B022590-E158-4982-898F-E1B388…)

The irony

No. 586233

no, art teachers hate it because weebs use it as a fucking defense for not needing to learn anything. shitty weebs would probably get somewhere if they had better attitudes than "hurdur i don't need to learn technical stuff for anime!"

No. 586292

>tfw you beg for money for an expensive art programme
>tfw you realize you do have the money from taxes but still decide to pocket the cash
>tfw you beg your viewers to buy your art
>tfw you complain about packaging when you do get orders
>tfw you quit your part time job and quit school then complain that you're poor
>tfw you abuse a lot of money buying useless shit (purple table cloth etc.)then complain you're poor

All this time she could have a part time job and do YouTube on the side as well as having school. She says she rushes her school work anyway, doesn't seem like she tries. At least she would have at least a more stable income.

No. 586384


She isn't known for being very self-aware.

No. 586669

What's the point of deleting tweets when she adds shitty, hypocritical ones almost daily?

No. 587002

File: 1526610805992.png (574.93 KB, 514x818, Screenshot_20180517-203209.png)

No. 587003

that spoon is WHACK

No. 587009


Is that piss?

No. 587020


it literally looks like piss w/a shit clump in it

No. 587026

File: 1526613018119.jpg (31.09 KB, 550x367, espresso-crema.jpg)

come on. It's espresso with crema. It looks fine to me

No. 587034

NAYRT but are you serious, anon? It looks mediocre at best, like the best piece in a middle school art class gallery. And the fact that she's bragging that it's on ~expensive~ Arches paper is even more laughable. Holly's the epitome of someone who thinks more expensive tools = better art, no wonder she likes Baylee Jae.

No. 587035


You kidding? Looks like dirty water.

No. 587039


If she was a real master she would use cheaper paper, it's harder to work on and would prove whether she actually had control of the watercolor.

No. 587042

>the totally flat spoon and plate
>the lip of the mug looking more like a pitcher
>the wonky spoon handle
>the fact that she decided on a patterned plate and then didn't even try
>the sudden lack of effort in the wood grain on the right side by the handle
>the absolute asymmetry of it all

and this is what you choose to nitpick smh

No. 587052

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She just posted a bunch of shit onto her IG, shoutout to this masterpiece in particular for lookin like hot garbage. Holly, for gods sake, learn to not muddy your darn colors so much!!! You say you’re good at colors and yet this is the shit you spew out?

No. 587055

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No. 587059

Maybe if your “style” wasn’t such a mess of shitty anatomy, artlean and dreamworks face, people would actually like your artwork instead of your studies.

No. 587111

So many fricken idks.
That guy doesn't even look like he's in that space. It's like she pasted it on top of the box

No. 587140

Holly, it's called growing a pair and standing up for your own desires for once. "Oh, boohoo, someone said I should do something I don't wanna do, how can I cope???"
Maybe, I dunno, have proper conviction and personal motive to do comics and non-realism art? Considering that all you do is bitch and moan about how making color comics or grey-shading is too 'time consuming', it makes you look like you fucking hate art in general. If it's what you want to do, you wouldn't be throwing your vision and artistic integrity out of the window just to save a few seconds or to deny that your art looks like hot garbage, and actually get better.
Grow a spine or stop doing art if you can't, pick one.

No. 587387

This is what she uses the expensive arhes paper for????

No. 587499

Don't worry, Holly, your studies and watercolours are garbage too.

No. 587507

File: 1526667134868.png (477.51 KB, 640x1136, image.png)

Did she really need another pose book considering she doesn't know how to use references?

No. 587626

She acts as if her watercolor pieces are the epitome of watercolor studies everywhere. They’re not. I’ve seen better work from middle schoolers.

No. 588083

File: 1526701158143.png (2.13 MB, 1180x1230, Screen Shot 2018-05-18 at 20.3…)

Such flat cups and the items on the table look like they're floating in space.

No. 588102

How do you fuck up a study that bad? I mean all you have to do is copy it ffs

No. 588115

as much as she doesnt wanna hear it, this is so much more pleasing to the eye than her usual shit. it's not good, but it's not visually offensive. taking away her ability to pisswash everything improves her coloring, if even slightly.

it's such a refreshing break from her usual broken-doll figures, but it's also way less fun to make fun of. would she kill her hate audience if she became too boring to talk shit about?

No. 588116

This honestly looks so jarring. That metal tea kettle is sooo jacked

No. 588124


Seconding this. Esp after her Tumblr Art Styles video, it seems that whenever she draws in a style that’s not her regular one it looks a lot better. Not great, but if she stuck to one of these alternate styles and really studied I feel like she’d get further in her art and come up w/ more pleasing shit.

But, you know, this is Holly BRown we’re talking about so I doubt she’d actually take this advice if she still lurks here and all

No. 588129

but this is still her art style, it just doesn't have any people so the shittyness isn't so obvious. Honestly, she would really benefit from trying to draw something as realistically as possible and dropping the ugly chunky lines for a second.

No. 588154

File: 1526706539307.png (223.8 KB, 293x316, book.PNG)

what's on this book? i cant tell if its the cover… or what

No. 588184

i'm >>588115 but i agree with you. it still has her obvious touch, but it's just mediocre, not offensive. it's not good, it's just not bad enough to notice if it was all she did.

No. 588189

Her style isn’t the problem for me it’s the lack of perspective and proportion that irritate me because she goes around acting like some amazing godsend for drawing sooo much but she can’t draw a middle school basics still life. Like a handle on a basic inanimate object or just someone without a noticeably broken ankle.

No. 588206

the shadows aren't even going in the same directions, they're all just randomly facing wherever.

No. 588259

Her studies are bad but bad in a mediocre way. Like they are precisely what you expect to see from your average artist getting an art degree in a college that doesn't specialize in art. Holly's personal work on the other hand just looks like poorly caricatured versions of reality which fail because of a mix of both lazyness and lack of knowledge.

No. 588382

Her perspective is always sooo wonky

No. 588386

File: 1526740351271.jpg (9.43 KB, 412x170, panthing.JPG)

i think it's pic related but i could be wrong.

No. 588483

You got that right. Perspective is something Holly needs to start getting right, right now. It's not something she needs to gradually work on. It's a fundamental problem in the way she approaches her artwork. Her whole perspective on art is fucked and so, her technical perspective is fucked. It's a trap that a lot of artists fall into. They go to an art class and learn that you're supposed to paint what you SEE, not what you THINK you see, and so they outline and trace and copy objects from all kinds of angles to build up their "visual library" of symbol-drawing, and end up making work that is just a collage of shit they have seen somewhere else before; a nice brick pattern from here, a wavy hair flip from here, and some anime eye stylisation from here…
They train themselves to break DOWN, analyze, simplify what they see into shadow shapes, color blocks, without really understanding how to build it UP, from the ground up. Making art doesn't always have to be a collage of shit you've seen before! You don't always need to find the exact pose doll, the right reference book, if you have the skill to draw shapes and forms instead of symbols. Making art involves IMAGNIATION. Don't just draw what you see, or what you think you see, draw what you KNOW and draw that thing in a way that expresses how you FEEL about it. Break it down into shapes, understand WHY you're drawing it at the angle you're drawing it at. Try another angle. Does it make it FEEL different? Try another. Add details, erase them away. Build up like a sculptor and then chip away like a woodcutter. The medium of drawing is so free and without boundaries that it's amazing to see how many limitations Holly seems to put on herself.

No. 588560

Oh silly anon, she's not a fine artist she's a professional animator , clearly what you shared doesn't apply to the skilled artist Holly BRown since she's on a whole other medium of choice

No but seriously she really does need to learn the fundamental understandings of how art is created and i would suggest a start woukd be to draw from 3 dimensional life rather than flat pictures of objects and such.

The average person has two eyes that are looking at different angles from one another, a much more realistic perspective is going to reflect that fact as opposed from drawing off of photographs without knowing where to change certain perspectives to look more realistic and not flattened

No. 588717

Amen to that. For as much as Holly loves pose books and references she really has no imagination and can’t draw for shit huh? What a shame

No. 588735

that would be a good suggestion for anyone but Holly. Have you seen her skull drawings? And the ones she did for the mini moped and bike models she bought? They were atrocious.
I don't know how she manages to always mess stuff like that up, I always thought it was just because it was a flat image, but apparently not.

No. 588859

Pose reference books like the ones Holly buys are for people (usually comic artists) who already know the basics and use it for reference or ideas, NOT the actual copy paste lines. She’s an idiot as usual.

No. 589038

Just so y’all know: Kitsune Zakuro talked about Holly BRown on their stream today and they dislike her attitude and personality (and art to a lesser extent) just as much as we do. This is for anyone who wants to know of other YouTube artists who y’all about Holly upfront

No. 589048

Sauce, starting at about the 1:10:00 mark.

No. 589051

Wow that’s fucking rad that another YTber would be so blatant about their feelings on Holly. I actually like Kitsune Zakuro, their content is very basic and fandom pandery, but at least they can draw unlike some…

Saged for being kinda ot

No. 589076

Why would you choose a character to “redesign” and then remove all elements of her character design all together…? Where’s anything that shows she’s an android/futuristic or relates her back to the Yamaha keyboard her design was based on at all?

No. 589080


No. 589128

The only things I disagree on is her being good at backgrounds and inking. Her background are too wonky and out of perspective. She over details and that makes her perspective mistakes even more obvious. And the ink? She’s either only doing no thickness OR (in the past) she just randomly inked everything with the same huge brush pen and it was a total mess.

That girl was way too nice to holly, imo.

No. 589178

She said Kasey Brown… or am I hearing it wrong?

No. 589183

Uh never mind, caught it. She is talking about Holly

No. 589188

there's a quite popular thread on twitter today about how western studios don't even have animators. Is holly's dream nonviable, even before she can't draw?

No. 589532

File: 1526844551164.png (488.59 KB, 690x528, 97396872017430.png)

a bit off topic and i don't know if someone else has mentioned this already but does holly have some mild form of dyslexia? i know it might be a stretch but whenever she makes a long post on twitter her words feel disjointed. not to mention the numerous spelling mistakes and the repetition of "like" and "idk". does she have a condition or does her awful speech patterns just rub off on her writing and she doesn't reread what shes about to post before clicking send?

No. 589541

Holly doesn't look over her own artwork before she posts it, I don't know why you think she would for something like a tweet (or even the damn text in her comics, which is ten times worse than any tweet she's made).

No. 589548

do you guys think she actually does work as much as she claims ? i know she does post studies etc but it seems like she's so scattered she never goes in depth and abandons tasks to begin others, i wouldn't be surprised if what she posts was the extent of everything she draws.

No. 589564

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[Spoilered because it's a huge image]
Unfortunately for her, Google image search isn't too nice with her either - some pics that pop up lead directly to lolcow; also this apparent rant video circled in pic related that pops up after 2 seconds of scrolling lmao (but it's mostly just her worst drawings & boring video thumbnails)

No. 589614

I hope Holly realizes that in real life it doesn't matter how hard you work if you're not producing good results. This is not fucking kindergarten, you don't get a pat on the head and a golden sticker if you "worked really hard" if it amounts to absolutely nothing. Working hard is not something to take THAT much pride on, it's only a sign you're not working very smart.

No. 589634

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So she's gonna waste another couple of years in grad school BS-ing homework?

No. 589663

That… isn't how Kickstarter works, Holly, you absolute fucking gremlin. Kickstarter funds should go to the project & production costs, not into your pocket at will. Christ.

No. 589664

What about the California plan?

No. 589817

No. 589885

Why does this sound like a scam….

No. 589905

Probs because Kickstarter, as the name implies, is for KICKSTARTING projects that backers receive finished product/benefits of, NOT sending degenerates to grad school.

No. 589915

I just want to add that kickstarter can be used to support you to take the time off to do the work. That's what a lot of video game kickstarters tend to be. And things like anthologies will pay artists. If you're open about taking a cut and pay yourself for time, it's not as shit as it sounds.

That said none of her money actually goes into her Kickstarter since she does create space runs.

No. 589986

Ok so this cow has:
>The Sketches color version that have been on wait since the end of march, that have not been sent yet.
>Clever Kitchen animation that she last updated on April 13
>Purgatory 2 comic (starting a Kickstarter but have not shown a new page of it)
>Paranormal comic, only have 9 pages and changing to black and white
>Animatics (Hamilton)
>the MCR animation (she deleted this from twitter so don’t know if she will do it)
>School work
>Convention prep
>YouTube videos
>Commissions (did she finish those)
>Fan-Zine that is due to the end of May and you must promoted yourself
Why will someone give this cow money she spends it all on useless things like the gazelle edge machine that she never uses. Also, why fund her? So she can do the same thing she did with Tv Paint.

No. 590094

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No. 590111

i'm in a bitchy mood and this just fucking pissed me off

it's because work and especially animation takes fucking time holly, which is why you can't have 70 projects at once, which is why if you ever want to do any thing decent in your life you have to spend time on it. ffs

one time in an aaron blaise live stream he said to animate 1 minute of footage it takes him about a month. it reminded me of how she wildly overestimates her skill and the amount of actual legit effort it takes to do good work

No. 590112

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Don't know if this is still relevant but I found this image on pinterest and it looked oddly familiar (sorry if this was already posted)

No. 590114

She should toss her “look at the reference for ten seconds and then close it” in the garbage.
She has no problem tracing but referencing something properly is totally unacceptable? Fucking look, understand, copy and learn.
That’s honestly crap from start to finish. They’re both ugly and Faye in particular is a rag doll.
She obviously wants to keep studying because she knows nobody will ever hire her for her skills, and she can keep other two years faking she’s not working because she’s a student.

No. 590119

holy shit

No. 590296

Is it a stretch to say that Holly has no future in art?
What I mean by that is she might end up in her 30s catering to the same suck-up audience spinning her wheels on projects she can't even finish. She says she has goals but she isn't very realistic about them because she doesn't really think long term about where she's headed, and has left a really sour note with the art community.

No. 590312


LMAOOOOO hers look even WORSE now

No. 590317

OK the main character for her Clever kitchen looks like a knock off version of Edward from FMA
not a good one , with an ugly nose like jeez why that shape and size it's so unsettling to me

No. 590325

The point of using reference is to better understand poses, clothing, how different objects look etc. Not to copy a photo. She can't even think of her own composition for illustrations and she expects to be hired anywhere as an artist? She's so lazy when it comes to actually working on her drawings, she'd rather waste all day sketching in a sketchbook and starting a million projects

No. 590331

Using a reference picture, copying it exactly and rendering it well is a useful skill though. One holly lacks. She distorts everything she draws in her stufies, and that translates to her other artwork

No. 590339

For someone who always preaches the use of references this is particularly bad, her characters look like paperclips on a sheet of paper on that fence. She just can't manage to make her drawings not appear flat and cheaply-made.

No. 590377

Holly will probably end up being an art teacher if I'm being honest. I mean if I remember correctly her mom/aunt is a teacher so it's not a stretch to say she will end up working in the same district as her mom/aunt

No. 590383

Copying a reference exactly is a good way to build your eye but it's not particularly good skill to have since a camera can do the same thing a thousand times better.

No. 590387

Being able to copy photos, and doing master studies of paintings, is literally just practice and training your eye. All artists need to be able to look at objects and reference them accurately, you'll have a tough time if you aren't able to do this. Copying a photo you found on the internet for your final illustration is lazy bullshit

No. 590432

Agreed. If she's trying to get into grad school she's probably trying to get a masters so she can teach? She might end up teaching art at a high school or something. I think it would suit her well, the students don't care or take anything away from it anyway and she gets to feel like she's better than other people(read: 14 y old children)

No. 590440

>>590432 I feel like she would be the kind of teacher the next generaton's speechie will rant about

No. 590675

File: 1526951721124.jpg (37.74 KB, 413x395, 1524783864153.jpg)

I hope that she gets to teach middle schoolers/high schoolers.
>"Today class we are doing the sketchbook slam challenge"
Miss, my drawings are getting worst and worst drawing 20 pages a day, and failing my other classes doing your homework!
>"No you are progressing well if it looks your characters look bad just draw backgrounds to compensate."

Students will find her shitty yaoi porn online and call her a fat, fujo faggot.She is basically setting herself up for another edgy kid to make a video on how evil their art teacher is

No. 590813

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Meaning, time to make more shitty art videos

No. 590814

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What is that scarecrow body

No. 590832

File: 1526963714742.jpeg (467.36 KB, 750x1007, CD8C92E0-99AD-42C4-A956-165DBD…)

April’s videos, including a gag video.

No. 590833

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May’s videos so far.

She does about a video a week. So how is she going to scale that back? A video each fortnight? A month?

And her videos are making more than her clever kitchen bs. How much has she spent on that vs YouTube?

No. 590834

OT I am actually curious about how much youtube is actually taking out and why? That's actually concerning

on topic, is… is Holly writing shitty rape porn?

No. 590839


I've always been uncomfortable with how yandere-esque and crazed/obsessed-looking that Reese character of hers tends to look and come off as. Not including how ugly his design already is.

No. 590846


if her pattern is trying to fund things she's already made/making/decided to make anyway….

No. 590858

i would say relax because if there was actually some change that affects youtubers' money… you know you're gonna hear nothing else for months

No. 590919

There's money in porn but not the kind of shit holly wants to make. You either do fetish/OC commissions, popular fanart, or a web comic with mass appeal.
Drawing porn also requires a very deep understanding of anatomy and character interaction. You need to know a lot about the human body in 3d space before you can draw anything sexy besides symbol-drawn pinups.
We've already seen holly's terrible paper-doll with ptsd porn. There are already amazing yaoi artists who are way more appealing than her. There's no way she can compete with them and get enough money to support herself.
Holly if you want to get porn money, improve your technical skill and accept that you won't get rich off your ugly OCs.

No. 590944

lol you're right, heaps of people have pointed this out. i can't not see a shittily drawn Ed when i look at that character. It makes it worse that it's not really coincidental and she's a massive FMA fan

No. 590945

my buddies who draw porn and make bank are some of the best artists i know. its ridiculous she sees this as an easy way to make money, teen girls aren't going to be able to afford her fujo shit and they're the target demographic. she'll have to price reaaall low

No. 590956

saged for ot, but does your friend use a different alias for her porn art? I know your friends making bank but if they wanted to get into an industry art job in the future would it look bad? Honestly I don't think it should be stigmatized and like you say it takes fucking skill. But just wondered and I think its pretty cool what you're friend is doing.

No. 590962

yep, my friend keeps their real identity under wraps. Look up 'shadman'

No. 590967

you’re “friends” with renowned pedophole shadman? y i k e s

the way holly tried to monetize EVERYTHING really makes me wonder if she’s an artist for the love of art or just sees it as a means to an end. not to mention making good money as an artist involves a lot of doing the exact opposite you want under a client’s direction. and she hates doing anything she doesn’t want it her schoolwork is any indication.

No. 590990

File: 1526994568123.jpg (36.43 KB, 590x153, Holly.jpg)

Flipping some burgers would probably do her good, honestly.

I'd have more respect for someone who worked in a fast food chain to get by while making art they loved on the side than I'd have for this trash trying to wringe money out of drawing wonky porn.

No. 591005

You've got to be fucking kidding me. Didn't she tweet that how she hates people who think they're above working at mcdonalds and says shes worked so hard. 'prevent me from flipping burgers lol', oh so you think you're above that lil miss BRown. I doubt she even has the qualifications to get employed there. She has made 8 tweets about money. Get a job.

No. 591011

She’s ALWAYS shat on mc Donald’s jobs and joked about how she would kill herself instead of working there.
Talk about “needing” money. She was way too lucky to find a “fanbase” at such a low level.

No. 591045

didn't she have a job at Michael art store or thing like that ? she's lucky she can even make 400$ off her shit art .If she had actually been smarter about her money she wouldn't be complaining .Its sad to see someone with such bland art make so much money off of it ,To then see someone who is working a part time job as well as work of their art that is 10x better than holly's will ever be ( of course if she ever gets her head out of her ass ) make nothing from what they love .

No. 591047

Also has anyone make a good expose video type of thing on holly ,That didn't have a weird dislike to likes ratio ?
I would like to see some , or at least see a few that would tell her why she's problematic .I know I saw a few on Spechie ( ?) that were like that.
I only found 2 videos on youtube with as much milk as holly has i would have though more videos would have been made .

No. 591048

File: 1526999925098.jpg (16.33 KB, 600x600, bait.jpg)

lol dw that isn't me

i hate shadman- not only for being an edgelord but their work is shoddy af as well; does anyone remember that loli pic with the girl tied up and her hands are backwards lmao. funny he should come up in this thread because he reminds me of a robot incel holly.

Yes, the folks i know use aliases it would be pretty stupid not to tbh. they aren't mega attention whore famous like shad but they are pretty well known in the furry/fetish community. i've learned a lot about anatomy and composition from them. I really respect them as craftspeople

No. 591052

i think people are too scared because most people obviously pity her and think she's retarded so it'd be seen as bullying lol.

I think the only person that would be "qualified" as in, holly wouldn't react like:


would be an actually accomplished yt artists and all of them are too professional to start drama

No. 591058

Yea I can see that I could see that happening
Do any of you guys know the Art professor on you tube ? She does portfolio critiques and such for high school students alongside older ones as well.She's pretty interesting It would be funny if Holly ever submitted her portfolio to her to review .She can go quite hard but also follow up with what can be improved and how .
But then again holly would say > ITS MUH STYLE THO >:[
I could see her say that even to a professional to , I even had to show my portfolio to someone at a workshop type of thing and they say " I hear that sometimes it's quite sad ".I myself was in that state of mind in middle school until I saw a friend of mine never improve because she also had the same kind of thought.She was just more stubborn than I .So In high school I soon learned that I would have to try something new otherwise I would be stuck with stale bland art and never improve.
It sucks to see artist with a huge platform not encourage other artist to grow out of their comfort zone , specially younger artist who are more impressionable than most .
Then again I kinda feel that if she does get called out , and shows a shitty hand in the drama most would not like her afterward .Then again i wouldn't want my name next to hers afterward .

No. 591174

There are plenty of artists who work in the industry now, who were known for doing NSFW art before they got their jobs. It's not as much of a deal breaker as a lot of people seem to think.
The thing about Holly doing NSFW art is, aside from the fact she can't draw (and we've touched on this before in a later thread), she's got the wrong demographic for it.

No. 591197


The worst cover imaginable, stiff and absolutely not erotic whatsoever. Porn doujin or whatever usually tease a bit making someone want to open it and look, this is not enticing at all.
Also, a little nitpick but what the fuck kind of kidnapper/rapist uses scissors to cut the tape?

No. 591233

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Ms. BRown running her mouth about things she clearly has no knowledge or understanding of, again. Put down the Jordan Peterson books, Holly, you're starting to sound as much of a raving lunatic as him.

No. 591257


Does anyone even have that picture of her pose books with that Jordan Peterson book casually in there?

No. 591258

wait what
so because some media has stupid or abusive male characters, people can't criticize toxic masculinity? And women can solve toxic masculinity by being nicer to men?
Holy fuck Holly.

No. 591276

…so it’s fine as long as you use abusive dads in your comic? Because rape incest is totally fine and non toxic

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No. 591392

the two bottom books are pretty, did she mention what they are?

No. 591394

They're from another artist's store. @blueludebar

No. 591396

Uhh this is the person who wrote a rapist male authority figure and oblivious dad into her story. And a creepy green haired dude who molests the main sexualized guy character for the yaoi in her other story. Holly shouldn't talk about how to write good male characters in the media when she hasn't created any.

No. 591413

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>a good person,

…She'll 'decided for herself', guys.

No. 591419


It actually dovetails nicely into her whole "I don't relate to other women" …thing, she has going on.
While meanwhile,

No. 591425



Jordan B Peterson has people believing that it's their right to say some pretty bigoted things and not get labelled appropriately for the things they say. In his and his admirers' eyes they are being intellectually honest, and the awful people calling them out on their behaviour should be silent.

The people that Peterson appeals to tend to have some repugnant views by modern standards: singling out Islam as a religion for harsh criticism, belittling women, etc.

I think Peterson gives these people comfort. He gives hope to those who don't appreciate progressive values.(derailing)

No. 591441

Oh that quality book?
Here are the 12 steps if you’re curious

>Stand up straight with your shoulders back

>Treat yourself like someone you are responsible for helping
>Make friends with people who want the best for you
>Compare yourself to who you were yesterday, not to who someone else is today
>Do not let your children do anything that makes you dislike them
>Set your house in perfect order before you criticize the world
>Pursue what is meaningful (not what is expedient)
>Tell the truth – or, at least, don't lie
>Assume that the person you are listening to might know something you don't
>Be precise in your speech
>Do not bother children when they are skateboarding
>Pet a cat when you encounter one on the street

I wonder if she’s suddenly going to “be precise in your speech” or assume that others might have information worth listening to. The book is a bunk “selfhelp” book. One of the points might as well be “be nice.”

No. 591495

>Set your house in perfect order before you criticize the world
Holly is clearly not absorbing any of Peterson's advice kek

No. 591545

>I'm not a five year old who needs to be protected from opinions

You sure there, Holly?

No. 591598


Indeed, give your opinion on her art and watch her flip.

No. 591656

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Holly really is the perfect example of a dumbfuck who consumes shitty right-wing content on the internet made to make money, and think she's vastly intelligent because of it.

Like, she really thinks she has the capacity to read any work of Peterson's and evaluate it on its own merit, when the bitch can't even string a coherent sentence together.

anyway can't wait til this dumb bitch stops running her mouth

No. 591712

Is there a content cop like Youtuber I could commission to do an in depth overview of Holly’s bullshit?

No. 591795

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No. 591803

>pre-ordering a doujinshi

No. 591807

did she make the entire thing already or is she just getting ahead of herself?

No. 591808

Pardon my stupidity, but I thought a doujinshi was a fan-created art book/comic of licensed works? Does this count as a doujinshi if she's the creator of the series itself?

No. 591810

Doujinshi means it's self-published, but she should just call it a zine or whatever and stop being such a weeb.

No. 591811

Sha came up with the idea the other day. She only made this cover sketch so far and she’s already putting up preorders?
And wait, you have less than 10 days to preorder this shit that god even knows when it’s going to be delivered? She must REALLY need money, I wonder what expensive crap she’s longing this time.

No. 591825

Someone buy this shit and show us the content of it. I'm so curious to see exactly how awful holly made it.

No. 591891

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this is the summary on the preorder page of her "doujinshi" so im guessing Herschel has a pain/kidnap/rape fetish?

No. 591893

nitpick but isn't it "take the next logical step" rather than "make"

No. 591897

wow what a scammer.
she's making a one off nsfw comic based on a main comic she's not even 2 chapters into and hasn't even properly introduced/developed any characters for. Who's going to want this??? who's going to care and most importantly, when is this going to be released? before or after she decides to make more pages of paranormal plague???

Also how's that BNHA zine going.

No. 591902


I can understand opening up pre-orders for a work, but typically you need to have the majority of it already made. that's why there's teaser art or preview pages for most books. Holly just plans on making the books herself and gobbling up the money for it cause she's a pig and a scam artist. I wouldn't even buy this 'just to see' what's in it bc it doesn't even exist past a cover page and synopsis. if she can't finish a proper chapter of her main comic, what in the world would make me wanna buy this with any confidence?

No. 591904

Really, another book already????
Has any one in the mha zine gotten that second email/ video she said she was making?

No. 591909

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These pins are so fugly

No. 591915

At first it seemed like that blond dude has eyepatch. Looks so cheap.

No. 591922

uhhh are you allowed to start preorders on a book you've only drawn the cover for lmfao this comes across as a scam…

No. 591928

Lol it’s a girl

No. 591935

>>591928 how unfortunate, lol.

No. 591939

Enamel packaging just LAZIER. Also I can’t get over the fact that she commissioned the pins before even starting to draw the comic, resulting in characters being a primitive version and buttugly to say the least.
She’s picking the end of the month as a deadline for way too many things… I wonder why she needs cash so quickly.

No. 591952

This is pretty likely a nitpick, but that cat packaging for the pins is kind of dumb if the comic doesn't have cats in it

No. 591964

I'm nitpicky too, I don't want something I bought to say "A gift for you" on it unless I asked for it to be gift wrapped. I bought it, what the hell is it, a gift to myself?
And wouldn't custom printed packaging make sense with her own artwork on it, not some random cat thing?
My theory on why she needs cash is San Japan coming up and forgot about needing plane tickets and a room (I remember in a previous thread she said she was flying which is absolutely nonsensical considering the amount of stuff she's gonna be hauling with her)

No. 591967

Flying? but she's FROM san antonio (or am i wrong?). that doesn't make sense.

No. 592025


Where the hell do I even begin with this hot mess.

First: why call it a doujinshi when it's her own characters? If it were SOMEONE ELSE doing this with her OCs or an ANTHOLOGY of different artists including Holly, then yes, it would make sense to call it that. But primarily, doujinshi is done for pre-existing works. Just call it a fucking comic, Holly, that's what it is.

Second: who the FUCK does she think she is? Is she really putting up preorders TODAY and leaving them open for ONE WEEK? This is just like her soon-to-be-atomic-bomb of a zine for MHA (giving artists an unrealistically short time frame to finish their pieces by the 31st). Also, >>591803 it's common for doujinshi and books in general to have pre-order stages due to how long they take to produce. Japanese sites like Toranoana does this because they're a professional shop who work with artists that know what the hell they're doing.
When you open up pre-orders for something, any self-respecting artist who KNOWS what they're doing leave them open until a) a set stock they already have sells out, or b) has a decent time frame open (1-2, maybe even 3 months is standard for books). Even fucking Moo did this with her awful keychains, so congratulations Holly, one of the stupidest cows on this site is officially smarter than you when it comes to selling pre-orders.

I haven't even gone into the artistic stages with this trite garbage.

>using an unfinished, ugly, LAZY sketch as the front cover for muh aesthetic purposes

>the fact that she wants to sell her OCs when it would be more logical and rake in more money if she did a pre-existing series (YOU KNOW LIKE WHAT A DOUJINSHI IS SUPPOSED TO FUCKING BE)
>this will most likely never see the light of day bc of all her projects she piles on to herself
>no one will buy it because her fanbase is filled with 13 yr old scumbag, edgelord fujoshits like her and it's 18+
>32 FUCKING PAGES LONG yet still calls it a "mini comic". Holly. "Mini" means about 10-15 pages in the doujinshi business, not fucking 32. Oh wait, if she made it that short, she would have to charge about $7 instead of $15. Greedy cunt.

Sorry for sperging, but holy FUCK, I hate people like her who talk like she knows everything and then fucks up the easiest shit because of her ignorance.

No. 592101

I would be funny to see someone do a parody of Content cop episode for Holly ,tbh I would pay for that and to see the shitstorm afterward .

No. 592105

also holly has the most bland packaging to go with her bland stale ass art.

No. 592168

not just that, it absolutely does not mesh with her style

No. 592232

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Oh yikes. Money not well spent

No. 592251

Are her characters even drawn like this anymore? I don’t trust Holly to draw anything on model.
I must admit, Holly knows how to wrap up a turd nicely. However it doesn’t cover up the waste of money buying her “products” really is.

No. 592281

I don’t think her characters ever looked like this. She tried to stylize them for the pins and instead made them look totally different .

No. 592290

The only doujins I've seen with cover art like that is torture/snuff/guro porn. I don't understand who she's trying to market it to, especially since a lot of her fanbase seems to be underaged or not into hard stuff like that.

No. 592457

ok so basically Holly has discovered aliexpress. Too bad she didn't try to find something that would match her content better. I've seen some that are like just polka dots, or a less figurative design

No. 592472

No. 592490

Again, she shits on studios. And she's shitting on porn drawings as "sell out". Color me shocked.

No. 592496

Holly can't sell this shit on storenvy. As far as I know, storenvy doesn't allow the sale of adult content. fucking reported

No. 592552

shut up, narc, don't you wanna see what a broken-looking shitshow this is??? have you seen her previous porn?? get outta here

No. 592563

(Not that anon) You shut up I wanna see Holly throw a fit about breaking basic rules. She should put it on tictail these are basic things to look into as an artist when you sell r18 content online.

No. 592564

let her release it and THEN report her, then you get your cake and eat it too

No. 592585

Uhhh correct me if I’m wrong I’m not a huge content creator, but isn’t talking about your taxes and finances SUPER unprofessional and kinda guilt trippy? Like she’s essentially guilt tripping her audience into buying her shit right? God this gives me a whole bunch of scammy vibes

No. 592600


You don't need a god damn sketchbook FOR storyboarding. Just draw the fucking squares in literally any other sketchbook than the ones she's selling overpriced.

No. 592609

>"I will not draw non-consensual"
>screen is literally kidnapping pre-rape
Also the green haired guy doesn't look sexy, he looks like he has a hunch back.

No. 592617

imo it's better to just get clear packets and design a nice backing card that complements the theme of the pin.
I mean in the end it doesn't really matter since it mostly gets thrown away but it looks more professional.

No. 592621

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No. 592641

Holly literally had Cat related pins she could have used the cat package for. Also why is she throwing money at such useless things?

No. 592642


That's not an attack, that's a legit suggestion. scheduled work can ground someone like her with all that time she thinks she's got (and still manages to rush?), and give a more realistic view of what she can accomplish, while having some level of consistency.

but no, 'flipping burgers' and retail are just so beneath her now.
actually I'd have at least a bit more respect for her if she did hold a part time job. at least then she might be a bit more humble/tolerable.

so fuck her for also shitting on the ways artists need to get by to supplement their living/ passions. what an uppity pig.

No. 592643

She acts like working at McDonald's or drawing porn are her only options. What ever happened to taking commissions like 99% of other artists out there?

No. 592644

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Ffs, stop playing the dead dad card and talking like there’s tons of people judging you. You fucking got ONE comment, grow a pair.

No. 592646

Holly, your savings went to shit because you have no idea how to manage your money not because your dad died. Every time you come into some money you just immediately splurge on some new useless toy. Like was there any real reason for you to impulse buy that Cintiq and then turn around and immediately sell it? What about that Ipad you got on a payment plan when you had a perfectly good Huion to use?

No. 592648

Let’s not forget how much she’s spent for the convention table, and to print at home crappy books that could have had small printed run and cost one fourth of what she wasted.

No. 592652

No no no anon those were “investments.” She’s a business woman. /s

She needs to give herself a stern talking to, figure out a proper budget, clean her shithole of a room, and focus on a few profitable ventures. He issue isn’t her dad died, which like yeah I have empathy for. It’s that she has no personal accountability or responsibility and just wants to draw whatever she feels like in that moment. Clever Kitchen is a time sink. Her comic is a time sink. Her “animations” are a time sink. Manually making everything is a time sink. Lesson 101 of fucking life is that time is money. Yet she wastes so much of it doing busy work and shitty childish projects that she puts zero thought into. This nsfw shit is just another example of that. She has no idea if it’s going to make her money. It might even lose her money because fans could be turned off. Like she said, she draws a lot of Nsfw stuff anyway so she’s just trying to keep doing whatever she wants and try to profit off of it.

She needs to cut the shit, trim the fat, and figure out what is actually making her money and only focus on that. She needs to crank out profitable art like a machine. That’s how you get ahead. Not trying fifty different things, spending a fortune on programs and tools, and then failing at it all. Who gives a fuck about being a sell out? Work hard now, do side pieces you’re passionate about, and when you have stability, start being more independent with your choices. She acts like she has all the freedom in the world to do whatever art she wants. Which I mean, sure, if she wants to be a “starving artist.” But then she doesn’t get to bitch about money. She can’t make whatever she feels like in the moment regardless of profitability and then bitch about having no money. She can’t do both.

No. 592656

>"Clever Kitchen is a time sink."
Clever Kitchen is probably to only thing she should actually be doing right now since she needs to finish it to graduate. If Holly actually wanted a job in the animation industry she should be promoting the shit out of Clever Kitchen and posting updates on the process.

I think the main problem is Holly is unable to plan ahead at all. She has no idea what to with her life so she keeps jumping from one interest to another. The best thing for Holly right now would be sit down and actually think about what she wants to do. If she wants to work on comics for the rest of her life then she should focus on promoting her comics and releasing pages in a timely manner. If she wants to be an animator then she needs to keep us updated on her projects and try to build connections with people in the industry instead of shitting all over them in her videos. Finally, if she just wants to be a youtuber who sells crafts on the side, she needs to stop guilt tripping her audience constantly and work on her PR (ie stop posting about polarized topics on twitter and fighting people who call you out).

No. 592661

Actually, no. She doesn’t need KC “to graduate”, we don’t even know if her school will accept that stuff as a final project. She is in illustration, so KC as an animation is totally off topic and really hard to judge. A simple animation would have been useless, but she jumped on a full 10 minutes of animations only because she wants to prove god knows who that she can make animations.
But it’s not necessary. It would be necessary to build a project that focuses on illustrations. Build that project, put effort into it, learn how to speak about the project.
She could have made a full portfolio for the DEVELOPMENT of KC, complete with real studies and such, and call it a day.
So I agree with the other anon, KC is a sink. Nobody asked for her to create a 10 minutes short, ever.
Is she doing that because she wants to work in animation? Why doesn’t she fucking study fundamentals? A shorter but conscious animation impresses way more than a 10 minute turd. Also if she’s aiming at a studio job she should cut with her attitude, learn to be humble and, like, start networking.
But who in their sane mind would want to work with her?

No. 592662

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Ugh she's passing on her shitty anatomy to the impressionable youth of the internet.

No. 592663

Dare I say it looks better than her actual art

There was a bit of posting awhile of back of artists on here that had been influenced by Holly's art (mainly large chins) but it seems a few people are noticing she's really shit and are moving away from it

No. 592668

1.) Do you think Holly’s telling the truth about her taxes? Or do you think she’s trying to scam her fans? Can she not call her bank and get the tax refunded if she’s being ~so~ overcharged? Why does she need to make a whole video about it.

2.) Her continuing to say that art is a horrible, inconsistent career path (which makes me wonder why she still continues to pursue it).

No. 592669

I wouldn't be too surprised if she was lying, she probably didn't make as much this month because of her lack of consistent uploads not because of evil youtube taking her money.

No. 592670

i don't think she realizes she's scamming, but i do think she over plays the regular payments normal people have to pay. She's definitely trying hard to make her e-begging seem like "guys i had to resort to porn" or "it's not ebegging because i'm giving you a product" no matter how subpar the product is.

it makes her audience feel bad and when questioned she can pretend to be progressive (even though she's fujo trash and we know she draws that shit anyway she just wants money for it)

>to keep me from flipping burgers


>the lazy horse shit i'm making is worth your money i'm too professional to work in a job like that i had my own business at 23 reeeeeeee

No. 592671

You goof - we all know all of that, it's obvious. Anon wrote that she needs to do it to graduate because if it's what she indends to submit, and she doesn't do it, she won't graduate. Ffs

No. 592672

no she posted the graph with her earnings for that period being a big spike over the previous while, and if it works like where I live, that would be the reason for more tax, because each period's tax is based on the projection of what you'd make in a year if you made that much regularly

No. 592674

does anyone really want to see her acne ridden rapist character have sex

No. 592684

She's in illustration online college… She is also going to an anime convention to sell prints in less than a year.
Why the everloving fuck isn't she making illustrations for her school she can ALSO sell as prints?

No. 592706

Well the problem with that is that makes sense

No. 592708

Holly doesn't understand it's better to work smart rather than work hard.

No. 592837

guess who just started streaming y'all

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No. 592847


Already bitchibg about the crits she's seen here.

No. 592848

" i mow the lawn guyzzz"
yea me and many others do to it doesn't make you any better

No. 592851

Plot of porn, pimple guy finds Purple bro has a kink, gross guy roofies him and puts him in a trunk. They bone. He "pulls a family guy" according to Holly.

No. 592854

I see someone reported it, but did anyone preorder for the milk? if not, who's gonna get the milk at her cons? This sounds super like rape.

No. 592857


If I didn't give a shit about my money I'd get it but I can't justify giving anything to this cow. Hopefully I'll be able to snag some shitty booth pics but that's about it.

No. 592864

>I would never have an abortion, I would rather be responsible ahead of time

>Plan you're life, don't be stupid, then you should never have to have one

Quotes from the stream

No. 592869

Wtf is wrong with her jfc. Oh yes you're all about consent Holly. Sounds like she has a very fujo outlook on consent. Even if Hershel has a non con fetish, roofying him and raping him isn't freaking consent from what we know of the characters he can't stand Reese. You can have a fetish but pre establishing consent is the whole point. This is like 50 shades of Gray stupid.

No. 592871

She says people were less sensitive before Obama, Holly is the most sensitive individual so she needs to shut her mouth.

Says recycling is a waste of time and big trashcans piss her off, that they're a pain to move. They really aren't that difficult to move she's just lazy and weak af.

Also sex is apparently scary cause who would want to have sex with this cow?

No. 592874

Must be easy to have such lofty opinions on birth control habits and possibly unplanned pregnancy when you you're an incel.

No. 592875

"I never said there would be consensual kidnapping, just consensual sex."

Oh, Holly.

No. 592877

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She has a sponsor button available for this stream and these are the emojis. She says that's an eggplant.

No. 592887

i feel like im having a stroke listening to her. all of her opinons are so fucking awful

No. 592891


She is so unbearable, it's hard to even try. Also pot is the devil, a gateway drug dull of gross stuff.

She says she's not conservative but damn if she doesn't sound like a concerned mom who is trying so hard to be cool.

No. 592893

People are just eatin up her bullshit in chat too I had to leave.

No. 592900


It's the worst, refused to read the chat, those poor idiots.

No. 592909

The Plan:
>end up in school in Portland
>Furniture degree

No. 592912

>"They didn't give me any scholarships even though I was literally an ORPHAN"

Your parents (at the time) were not dead Holly, so you were not a 'literal orphan', get over yourself.

No. 592916

How many rice cakes is she eating during this stream? I had to stop watching because I can't take the crunchy chewing sounds.

No. 592917

She means the she legally was an orphan which is true. Your parents don't have to be dead for you to be an orphan legally.

No. 592923

Not the same anon but from what I know scholarships and financial helps comes depending on the income in the house you’re living in. She might have been technically an orphan but her aunt took her in and they based their choice over the fact that she still lived under a roof and her aunt had a stable financial income.

No. 592927


That's my mistake, then! Thx anon.

No. 592992

I love how Holly thinks she’s gonna make bank on her porn considering most of her fans are underage

No. 592996

does she know that birth control can fail. And that people don't only have sex when they want to reproduce. She has the opinions of a sheltered high schooler who hasn't experienced the world yet.

fujos are nasty

No. 592998


I only just started the stream and the bit about "why do I have to work minimum wage when I have skillz" already made me mad

No. 593000

watching holly is like watching a rat trying to run up a greasy pole

No. 593004

"It's because I have a skill, it's called drawing."

Skill is the last thing I would describe Holly's art with.

I mean sure, if she makes more money drawing porn than working at McDonald's, why not, but I'm sure it's going to crash and burn like every other project she's trying to make money on.

No. 593058

i think it goes without a majority of this little side story comic is traced….

No. 593130

22ish minutes in she starts hardcore laughing ‘teehee Reese drugs and rapes herschel xDDD’ But still rants about how noncon is gross ‘I’m not like those hentai artists, It’s just his kink1/!/1/1/‘

No. 593145


If she's going to be like that she needs to just admit it and stand her ground, it's embarrassing to see her backpedal.

No. 593167

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Anytime Holly talks about starting another goddamn project

No. 593217


No. 593251

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When her fans draw better stuff than her. He actually looks like he has muscles now

No. 593259

What the shit is going on with those collar bones…

No. 593265

a training bra?

No. 593368

They still drew lines across the arm to represent musculature. It looks more 3d than what holly draws but they are picking up her bad habits.

No. 593387

True but atleast their lines seem to be actually following the musculature?

No. 593393

I mean I guess but from an anatomy stand point those arms are incredibly off. The forearms and the elbow divot on the right are super wrong. The face looks nice though stylistically as well as expression (if not off putting given context) they definitely have more potential than Holly imo but they are still learning. I'd say Adept to Holly's Novice but not nearly Expert yet.

No. 593394

Also his biceps are longer than his head? They need more irl studies and less anime.

No. 593410

What do you expect, they learn from holly, she's a shitty teacher with no skill.

No. 593512

Judging by the skill of the fan artist, it looks like it was possibly made by one of Holly's slightly more artistically adept followers who is trying to sponge off some of Holly's e-fame.

For all the anons on here trying to tear apart the piece, it's honestly pretty good. I mean it's no Picasso but I personally would consider commissioning the original artist.

No. 593529

I remember people here were creaming over the flatcolour person she hired a while ago, don't expect consistency ITT

No. 593602

Wait what? Does she think people who work minimum wage jobs don’t have skills of their own?

No. 593620

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She retweeted this. We really hit a sore spot, huh.

No. 593728


In her case is it even really a living wage? If she was living on her own this is the point where she would be undoubtedly begging for money, she wouldn't have the time to pull this bullshit and make a pornbook, it would be better to get a retail job or something of the like. That tweet is not really suited for her.

No. 593744

I agree with this tweet, but Holly doesn't make money off her art. She got lucky with a viral video on youtube and that's where she makes money. I doubt she's making money off her store enough to support herself.

No. 593773


She immediately just spends all the money she gets from videos and whatever art she makes on whatever shiny new thing catches her interest to make more art that she barely, if ever, makes a profitable return on…

I'd noticed she pretty much has been ramping up the asking for money lately though. And there's nothing wrong with making money off your work, but she's doing everything in such a slapdash way, it all just ends up coming off as a moneygrab without really caring or looking at what she's making. There's no thought or time going into what she makes, and that's sort of disrespectful to her audience that might be the slightest bit interested.

"I'm gonna pump this crap out, they'll buy anything"
is what it feels like.

No. 593882

New vlog

No. 593939

I highly doubt she'll actually clean her room but I hope she does bc its a shit hole

No. 593992

>discovers nightwing

shitty fujo fan art incoming.

No. 594030

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No. 594032

This is kind of what I feared most, that and any other super hero she gets her grubby, greasy hands on.

Didn't she constantly shit on the superhero genre? Why the sudden interest now

No. 594067

hopefully the link works
but basically this girl shits on baylee jae( I would agree but at the same time when she mentioned holly as more of a pro i couldn't anymore just nope"
and then kisses up to holly as a" professional "
Seems like she wants to be like a knock off holly

No. 594075

What an idiot

No. 594077

correct me if i'm wrong, but a while ago wasn't Holly given a car? It might be on another thread or something, but I remember her getting a car and then giving it to her brother because she wanted a better one or something like that.

No. 594094

maybe but what would that matter. everyone in Texas will have a car and you can probably one for like $300

No. 594098


not the sane anon but it matter because now she's complaining about not having one. Knowing holly, she's going to try and get the most expensive one for no reason, especially if what you're saying about $300 cars is true.

No. 594112

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>drawing my fav in her shit irredeemable style

No. 594268

To whoever asked: reese is Hispanic.
She claimed that in her latest stream.

No. 594344

She only likes these heroes because they're from a manga.
The exact same story and characters could have come from a western superhero comic book artist and she'd pay it zero attention

No. 594364

hey im the creator of that vid and i made it almost a year ago now, and i dont agree with what i said anymore lol.. ive since gone to art uni and actually been educated in good work ethics and good illustrators and i now can confirm that holly BRown is trash, so take that vid with a pinch of salt

sage for ot?

No. 594367


Whats with her fetishizing hispanic men?
She never seems to specify what "hispanic" her characters are.
Are they central,islanders,southern latinos?

No. 594369

i know herschel or whatever is supposed to be Mexican.

is she really fetishizing latino man? i can't tell if she ever had a hardon for other latino men, fictional or otherwise

No. 594374

True,I guess she really only does with her two latino characters

No. 594400

File: 1527350211475.png (460.81 KB, 640x1136, image.png)

Someone called the lame nightwing fanart. She did a sketch dump on twitter and they are all awful

No. 594411


Again with that fucking hair. I swear that's just Herschel in a mask.

Also she can make her characters whatever race she wants, but like, they're all bland as toast anyway. She has an obvious obsession with 'muscles' though since she likes to point out that Herschel has them. a lot. Even though he doesn't.

No. 594414

To be fair I also find most western super hero comics flat and uninteresting stylistically. But that doesn't take away from the average artists' technical proficiency. I have respect for them even if I would never read anymore than I've already tried.

No. 594418


wouldn't be able to tell who this guy was without context…that fuckin flyaway hair and dreamworks smirk.

No. 594425

she spent all that time shitting on superheroes n shit now she's turned the tables (on nightwing at least) but we all knew she was full of shit anyway

No. 594427

The fact Holly thinks Jordan Peterson is intelligent speaks to her own level of intelligence so much. Jordan Peterson literally said 1950s housewives didn't know how "lucky" they were with how "easy" their lives were. Fuck you Holly.

No. 594432


That's just her lame attempt to be cool by means of liking controversial shit. She couldn't live a 50s wife lifestyle, it'd be funny to see her try though.

No. 594446

You say as if Holly wouldn't jump at the chance to just be a trophy wife. I honestly don't think Holly is saying this to be controversial; I sincerely believe she has low enough esteem to believe everything in that book.

No. 594447

sorry about that didn't know , and thats good .

No. 594461


That's true, her self-esteem is certainly at gutter level, can't see her ever being a trophy wife though. Clean, cook and have kids is that motto and sex is scary cause you can get pregnant and an abortion wouldn't be for her so she's out of luck. Unless she finds some fundamentalist husband who wants to wait until marriage to have sex that is.

No. 594466

don't insult toast. toast is great.

No. 594487

Homemaker =/= Trophy Wife.

If Holly had the looks she would 100% be happy just sitting there looking pretty if it meant she could continue being a leech. I mean she already basically scams her fans into basically just giving her money so it's not that different.

>"sex is scary"
I really doubt Holly is anti-sex. She just like parroting stupid fundamentalist views like the sheep she is. Of course, like many other fundamentalist's out there, she is definitely a huge hypocrite who would probably jump at the chance to have sex with a guy she finds attractive.

No. 594494


You're right, I should've come at that angle but I was humoring anon. Hell I know I wouldn't eat any meals cooked by Holly, she thinks stale ass rice cakes are better for her than fruit and vegetables as a snack. Stupid much? I hope they realize how much of a scammer she actually is when the zine books are shit and when it takes forever for her fucking rape fantasy book to come out.

Need a big hypocrite stamp to put over her face! She definitely isn't anti-sex, she's anti-abortion for herself so she's scared she's going to get pregnant so she avoids sex I guess. A baby would eat up all the time she spends on her shitty art and she can't have that.

No. 594510

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well she really likes Lance from Voltron Legendary Defenders who's cuban? dont know if both reese and herschel were hispanic before that

but herschel used be white, and I was under the impression reese was black but i guess holly is bad at skin tones

heck i dunno if herschel is dark tan or light yellow, its been kinda inconsistent

No. 594515

Even being a trophy wife requires working on yourself to keep yourself hot. That's literally still too much work for Holly to handle

No. 594543


Yo you're right, anon. My mistake lmao.

Holly just leeches off of trends for however long she's interested in making money off it. wonder what ever happened to those 500 Hamilton projects she had going. I know she dropped some.
But the only reason people follow her around is because she A) had merch for a popular thing, or said she liked popular thing and drew it
B) 'speaks her mind' and those 'edgy teens' like what she has to say because 'a lotta people don't know' her opinions are actually unpopular
C) hate following her. Which i guess is a lot of this forum.

She'll never be known for much else since she'll die if she gets her head out of her ass, that's her main source of oxygen after all.

No. 594545

yea I think the only reason people are stillw atchign is for those rant type videos.
I mean yea she can have an opinion , but her's is not totally solid all the time ?(( idk if that makes sense )
Like she wants to be edgy but at the same time not totally , idk its a weird paradox for me to see .She'll probably pander to anyone though so there's that.

No. 594549

yeah she doesn't want the backlash. Honestly she's really thin skinned and the fact that she's 23 and does nothing but complain and whine is really embarrassing. Her mother is enabling her to be like this. To have a daughter who is an entitled snobby lazy little shit.

No. 594554

regardless of what skin tones any of them were painted with, they all read as white because they're written white af. no culture, no background, no accent, nothing. a two second glimpse of hersey having a keychain of the mexican flag would do more to establish his race than anything she's done so far. they're just masks for holly's mouthpiece, that's why everything she makes is doomed to suck.

No. 594573

So you’re sating having a keychain of your country of origin’s flag is somehow related to building personality? I think that’s a horrible example lmao just write good characters, not white characters, black characters, just good characters.

No. 594587

>written white
Not defending her, but it's definitely possible for a non-white person to be disconnected from their heritage and culture. It's not unheard of, anon.

No. 594590

The other poster didn't mention anything about personality, but developing a character's background (nationality, ethnicity, race) is a part of character development. It doesn't mean they should be defined entirely by their race, which is bad character writing, as you've pointed it out.

But it's pretty dumb to work in a visual medium and not rely on visual cues like keychains when it comes to showing a character's background. In my area, it's really easy to clock someone's ethnic background just by looking at their car (flag hanging off of rear view mirror, custom license plate, vinyl sticker, etc.).

Like, it would also be another thing if she was purposefully writing Hershel to be "culturally ambiguous" (assimilated immigrant child, transracial adoption, self-hatred, etc.) or coded white, but it seems all of her non-white characters share this trait, so it's just a sign of her poor writing.

No. 594656

That's what absolutely pisses me off, she talked so much shit on comic cons and everything else and now she's gonna join the bandwagon

No. 594665

I mean write good characters but don't write 'color blind'. That's exactly what Holly does and a big problem with Tumblr 'diversity'. It doesnt mean write stereotypes or forced poorly understood culture but there are certain things like…how Hershel is a Jewish name and his character was previously white but is now Hispanic after Holly was accused of racism? Just feels disingenuous. Write characters realistic and well rounded as people and if they aren't just like you (race religion gender s/o w/e) maybe just consider reading up on that pov. Just don't only write from your own pov or experiences of you'll just have a group of people with no varying personalities beyond archetypes.

No. 594680

Holly is a bad writer in general and it's yet another thing she needs to work on but doesn't think so herself.
It isn't too far off to say that she's got no sense of identity on her own so she tries on all these different 'artist' masks. Wouldn't surprise me she writes her characters in that sort of chameleon baseline sort of manner.

I can't even describe what her characters are like individually either, tbh. And that's troubling. I don't have a sense of their personality beyond 'snark.'

No. 594698

that's not what i'm saying, i'm saying that hershey is so bland that sticking a label that says 'mexican' on him would be more establishing of his background than anything she's done to show it
gets it

true, but then don't make a big deal of the character's race


No. 594846

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ot but this is the same account who commented about how stupid hollys mermaid anatomy video was. sounds like she's on here

No. 594868

If you guys actually know people on Texas selling cars that cheap link me lmfao

No. 595075


No. 595202


nitpick: in San Antonio, if you live in a house, you have the city-provided trashcan with wheels. it is zero effort to tip the can and wheel. it. to. the. curb. how can someone be so lazy and at the same time make so much extra work for themselves?

No. 595212


Just likes having something to bitch about.Round Houston it's the same, minimal effort to get the trash to the curb and wheel it back when they're done, I so it all the goddamn time. I'd be so amused to try and see her walk a trashcan without wheels out to the curb. Also trashmen still ride the truck to get wayward or bulky trash items.

No. 595246

I honestly think it's just some weird and stubborn to an illogical level of 'fuck going green' thing she must be stuck on.

No. 595269

But of course she claims to workout every day for at least one hour, having days of two and three hours of workout, lol.

No. 595280

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Just found this and lets just say Holly's gonna have a hard time in the future lol

No. 595324

she'll reap what she's sowed

No. 595358

What do they mean by "act like this"? As in inflammatory and quite obviously someone who antagonizes potential studio mates? Or like someone just being flaky.

No. 595394

I know she's shit but what's the context?

No. 595416

idk if this has been mentioned in the other thread , i'm new and just found this is yea .

No. 595421

File: 1527458765841.jpg (250.34 KB, 1080x1053, 20180527_230515.jpg)


Found tweet context for anyone curious


No. 595422

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No. 595462

Well yeah I don’t think she was talking about holly but it’s good to have a confirmation that this kind of blacklists do exist.
That might be why Holly switched plans from California to Portland?

No. 595484

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no caption necessary kek

No. 595491


Wow, so original. Tutorials from her are like tutorials from a baby, worthless.

No. 595494

Wtf? Step by step tutorial art books are great for captivating young artists who want to pursue drawing and are great for beginners to learn how to study hand eye cordination to properly copy the picture shown to them.

Do professionals and most adults use them? No, but you can't expect to teach someone with little to no experience the fundamentals of drawing a skull and radial shading and not have them feel intimidated.

Sage for ranting but I used step by step how to draw books all the time when I was little because being able to properly draw simple designs and have them turn out like the book made me feel accomplished and ready to try something a little more advanced.

Let the noobs have their fun and if they want to continue pursuing the hobby then they can start learning the proper foundations

No. 595534

Literally how to draw books are how i got into drawing to begin with. I still look back on them because some books have amazing basic fundamental stuff. You know, the fundamentals that Holly fucking lacks.

No. 595542

same.. and anatomy books that break down the process were so amazingly helpful to me starting out. i still like to flip through my old “how to draw manga” books for inspiration or ideas even though i’m not a weeb anymore.

holly doesn’t have any advice that hasn’t been said a million times before. it’ll just be “draw everyday! draw from life!” etc and she knows that. so she’s gotta clickbait with some inflammatory opinion to make it interesting ofc.

No. 595565

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I use pose books for ideas/inspiration for poses, not to learn from it. Jfc holly. You're teaching kids to learn from pose books??

No. 595573


She traces pose books. She's one to talk.

No. 595609

but she copies pose books???? is she really this retarded?

No. 595624

I mean I've learned a lot from pose books myself because I couldn't afford to go to life figure drawing classes. I used them in tandem with anatomy books to study the human body, but I doubt that's what Holly wants people to learn from them because that's too simple and reasonable.
Her issue is that she focuses too much on a single thing that's not as popular so she seems like the ultimate art aficionado that holds all the mysterious knowledge of the art world in her palm. By finding random obscure things to praise or rant about she's trying to give the illusion of knowing more than other people because they haven't talked about whatever she has, but in reality its just that it doesn't matter at all.
The point of any art resource is to use them with other things and not just by themselves. If all my art training came from pose books I'd be fucked, and the same applies to anything else, you've got to explore all your options if you want to learn and improve hence why Holly hasn't done either.

No. 595639

Learning from observation is great and all but it does help to be able to set up the form underneath, which is something that a lot of tutorial books teach. Not to mention, tutorial books are a lot more friendly for beginner artists. Pose books are fine but I would have just tried to copy what I saw if I were given one of those when I started.
I want her to make a vid about this honestly. It's probably just going to be some self serving bullshit again

No. 595653

haha bitch. there are plenty of good drawing books that aren't christopher harts how to draw manga out there, the point is you use the information from the book to draw from life not fucking copy the shit out of the book. There are plenty of classics that pros use to this day to brush up on fundies, and what about her beloved disney animation principals book that i doubt she's ever opened? Its such a smug faux pas to write off information just like that.

I know it's a bit of a meme but i don't know many good figure artists that haven't had a good read of loomis etc. once again she's doing the "don't listen to the ass load of people that know what they're talking about, listen to salty old me!"

No. 595705

This is exactly Holly's problem she doesn't take poses or references and apply real life studies to create something from her own head she just memorizes a pose and redraws it over and over. It's the reason her anatomy is shit and she can't draw in perspective.

No. 595772

She started streaming like 40 mins ago

No. 595773

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hollys back to being friends w Romanian girl

No. 595775

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she mentioned on her ig live that she was "gonna stream w a friend" and @pimikyu (used to be @pyunck) was in the comment section acting all friendly again.

No. 595778

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judging from the style + "her meet the artist" this is in fact the Romanian girl
sidenote:she restarted her yt channel

No. 595779

romanian girls art is looking way better
sage for ot

No. 595782

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is this new ? why is there a fucking sponsor button on hollys channel.

No. 595786

Sponsor is a new thing Youtube are offering all channels, charge the viewers $5 a month for unknown purposes. I don't know if it's opt-in or automatic

No. 595810

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It’s similar to twitch $5 subscriptions, YT was using it only for gaming channels but now are branching out to other genre YT channels. It’s not automatic, you push the “sponser” button on the left side under the video, a pop up will appear asking if you would like to “support the YT creator” with a donation of $5 a month, automatic monthly charges unless you manually cancel it. It’s supposed to up the compition between what twitch & patron offer, and to make up for creators losing income via Adsense demonetization. The creator chooses the “perks”, mainly a special symbol-thingy next to your YT username in the YT comments section (of that creators videos only) so everyone can see how big of a cuck you are.


Manually-signing up to a $5 patron tier with minamal to none perks.

But I just went to her livestream and couldn’t find it anymore for some reason?

No. 595818

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She’s ranting about obesity and fat people, pretty sure she said “fat fucks”. She said the waste money and that she knows they’re just lazy because she’s a fatty herself. Was talking about the show “my 600 lb life”, said that it’s okay to be like her and just be a little fat, but not that fat or obese, which is ironic, since her BMI says she’s obese, and says it’s all about health, wasting money and time on being fat and food, “just no…no…no”, saying all they do is sit there and just eat all day and nothing else, and just really not liking fatties in general. While people in the chat kept saying “what??!” Or “how can they be so fat!!” “I’m soooo skinny, ugh it’s sooo annoying” “ and others talking about their eating disorders and calling holly out on what she was saying.

>pic related is her weight-appropriate drawing

No. 595819

File: 1527508236368.png (331.51 KB, 812x532, Untitled.png)

She confirmed she draws those lines on the "buff" guy's arm to create muscle definition when questioned about it in her stream. "Or else it will look like a big, fleshy blob."

That's why you study anatomy, Holly.

No. 595835


oh my fucking god. that's not even the correct "muscle" placement. wtf? AND REESE'S HANDS ARE LITERALLY STICK THIN I'M LAUGHING SO HARD

No. 595839

come on holly. if you’re going to stream your art, stream the actual fucking screen and not the tablet itself with a shit camera and tons of glare. i swear every trash artist on youtube can’t even be fucked to download OBS. it’s so unprofessional for someone who desperately wants to break into the industry and make money solely as an artist.

No. 595840

She tried to demonstrate how she was gonna use that line for shadow placement, so it’s not exactly a line meant to define the edge of a muscle, still the shadow edge is so strange and still incorrectly placed :(

No. 595841

I think they meant does the creator opt in to the sponsor program, or is it automatic for every channel.

No. 595882

This guy seriously scares me. Looks like a mummy anorexic tweaker or something. And he is so stiff, like a corpse.
I honestly thought this comic was going to look a lot better. Boy was I fucking wrong. It looks scary… very far from sexy.
I am dreading what they're going to look like naked and fucking.

No. 595905

Really? Moss potato head who thinks rice cakes are better than fruits and veggies wants to insult fat people? Like she's not one of them? Like that person in her stream said when they get to that size they usually have some other deep rooted issue. A lot of them end up with therapists and it usually turns out they were molested, neglected or starved as children. She should've kept the stream up if she's really not afraid, keep your streams up Holly, let people give you their opinions. Also eat some veggies.

No. 595914

Yup. How much weight has Holly lost anway?? She thinks she can give advice to someone who needs to lose 300+ pounds? That's hysterical.

No. 595932

I know holly is a mess but seriously it is not milky to judge people who are so obese they are handicapped. I don't think I've met a single sane person who has seen a human lard and hasn't thought "that's horrible" and "they should eat less".

No. 596026

oh god, anon, I don't even want to imagine what that would look like, much less see Holly draw it

No. 596119

Yeah buy most people keep those thoughts in their head and not for the world to hear unlike holly

No. 596127

ot but when did it become such a trend for preteen girls to brag about how skinny they are while pretending to hate it

No. 596137

Always? It's humble bragging anon.

No. 596160

They fish for compliments and validation. Tho to be fair being a teenager suuucks esp for self esteem so eh I don't really care

No. 596291

Oh come on. Our society isn't so deluded (yet) that it's a taboo to openly say that it is wrong to be morbidly obese.

No. 596292

god her stream last night was fucking horrible. probably the worst yet. im gonna timestamp them all but at one point the chat was like "oh Reeses arm is too long" and she got so mad lmao. not to mention her laughing her ass off at how "the 600lb life people are landwhales XDDDD lololso gross whats wrong w them just stop eating xD" plus her talking about how her dad died and she was only sad cause she lost 6k. im not even reaching she flat out said that

No. 596296

so much this. you can tell they're totally just gassing themselves up when they complain.":,,(( i hate myself:,,((life sucks bc I'm skinny"

No. 596297

at least some of her 12yo fans were calling her out for dismissing morbidly obese people as just pure gluttonous monsters. lol its a disorder holly

No. 596531

''im not a fan of construction lines''
''they make your art stiff''
''they make your art look like shit''

holly this why your art ugly

No. 596543

Oh my god, gotta spread that useful info! I’m pretty sure all of my friends working for big houses will thank her, because they’re using construction lines and that means they draw like shit :(

No. 596621

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The fuck is that? LITERALLY EVERYTHING is wrong and that vagina armpit is nightmare fuel.

No. 596622

Those arms are terrifying.

No. 596623

god the acne cutter guy is repulsive. i don’t even know why he grosses me out so much. i REALLY don’t know why holly thinks people want to see her ugly porn of her ugly characters. and being a fujo she probably has a lady boner the entire time she works on it.

No. 596668

Apart from everything mentioned on these threads, I keep having something on my mind about Holly that I can't get.

I'm an artist myself, consider myself pretty mediocre. I'm living on my own, earning enough money for my art. And then I see Holly blatantly wasting money. Apple products, Adobe Photoshop, a bunch of traditional art supplies. If you are a starving artist, you don't need this shit to create art. It's just a waste of money. She keeps whining about being poor starving artist, why won't she start managing her money properly? Dunno, I can live a pretty decent life while being mediocre noname. Mind you, I have issues too and I'm mentally ill coming from abusive household. I never was a "blunt" kind of person and now it seems to me that I am more "blunt" than her, she just tries to mask her issues under the "honesty" label.(blogposting)

No. 596670

*from my art, damn autocorrect.

No. 596718

I dont understand how she thinks this looks ok. Fucking use construction lines Holly!! The only artists who can create good drawings without construction lines are amazing artists who have spent 30+ years drawing. This looks awful and so fucking wrong

No. 596736

His arms… remind me of slabs of cured meat hanging on a rack to dry.
This is even more QUALITY than her normal work. Jesus I thought she had gotten better but I was wrong, she is regressing.

No. 596745

Somehow holly manages to draw deflated labia for arms and it's still stiff and boring.
Guys I can't wait to see the dicks she draws. I am axcually excited to see this impending train wreck.
And oh god… and the penetration scenes. Imagine a butthole drawn by BRown.

No. 596754

God I really hope she finishes this just so I can see it, I'll even buy the damned thing lmao

No. 596816

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at 1:28 she shits on moleskine, "DONT BUY MOLESKINE!" but I've seen gorgeous paintings in moleskine and never had a problem with them myself, does she just soak the page in water or what?

No. 596889

Please do, and scan it for all of us to see and laugh at.

No. 596899

Yes please. I can’t wait for this crap to be released, now.

No. 596915

His arms look like jeans.

No. 596971

No. 597034

Isn't Reese just a copy of Yoshiharu from Kiznaiver? At least pretend to create original characters, Holly.

No. 597054

And Grell from Black Butler and Fushimi from K Project and Ferid from Owari no Seraph and Tsukiyama from Tokyo Ghoul and – okay yeah you get the point he's the anime rapist archetype. No personality or character traits beyond that.

No. 597058

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was scrolling through my recommended on tumblr and

No. 597064


That's a not bad WIP. Too bad it's covered up by Holly's shitty graphic,

No. 597222

Holly's followers continue to be 10x more skilled than her

No. 597225

It really bothered me how she said she throws away fan letters. And didn't bother to open her po box in a timely manner, some of her gifts were from christmas. Why people waste their money on her is beyond me

No. 597232


That would honestly crush me to hear someone say that, especially if I admired them. I can only imagine how the young preteens and teens feel about hearing that. A lot of people hang art up or get a binder to put the letters in to read later when they need a pick me up. Just goes to show Holly really is the cold hearted, self-centered, blunt bitch she claims to be.

No. 597256

Ungrateful swine.
she didn't open up a p.o. box to receive letters from admiring fans, she got it hoping that people would give her free shit. and even when she gets something she's never satisfied. that's why she's a god damn pig. lives exactly like one.

fuck her.

No. 597283

>>597225 i hope someone glitter bombs her, but that would be wasting money on her so eh, too much work

No. 597335

how tf can you think leaky, peely plasters on an unhygenic emo cutter sexy? I can't believe i'm judging someone on their self harm etiquette this is hilarious.

ofc the glass is leaning smh

there are even shit bombs now, i'm crossing my fingers

No. 597346

tbf it’s not like holly needs more clutter and i could understand if youtubers wound up throwing away most of the fanmail they get but like…don’t admit that shit on camera. she’s either soulless or autistic.

No. 597356

there are a lot of bigger youtubers who keep most of the shit they get, or at least the letters bc they're easy to store. I'm talking thousands of letters. bitch, just have a box/binder or something! it just seems cruel. tbf sometimes i'm too sentimental to delete nice emails so thats probably why i'm pissed

No. 597362


She's not on the spectrum, she's just soulless and stupid.
What does she expect people to send her but letters, is it there for companies to just send PR packages? Her fans I'm sure can barely afford her shitty merch, not like they can shell out big bucks to send her expensive gifts she'll only use once and toss in her trash heap of a room.

No. 597534

Her burping seriously pisses me off. It's no funny, it's not cute, it's not quirky. It's irritating.

No. 597546

Ugh I wanted to click away the second she started showing vore/inflation art while acting like she didn't know what it was.

No. 597554

That made me gag and then laugh - the first thing you hear in the video is what sounds like a toilet filling "Hey guys, " then what sounds like puking into the mic. Hey, it worked for the rick and morty show

No. 597563

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Holly thinks this is "some fucking good composition".
Lol wut?

No. 597566

Is that a lampshade? Lol that's some wacky perspective.

No. 597567

It's sad that she is an illustration major but she still has no idea how to make her composition 'flow'. Like the way this page is set up currently your eye keeps getting drawn back to the wonky circle in the middle of the lamp(?). I mean is that circle supposed to be that important? I would assume whatever the guy is saying is much more integral to the story so why not, I don't know, place that last word bubble near the intersection of the rays of the lamp thing?

No. 597568

I think that might be stained glass but the decoration inside the circle is so wonky. Its not lined up. How does she not see that?

No. 597570

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No holly. You dont learn from mindless doodles. You learn from studying things properly, not repeating the same mistakes over and over again because you refuse to correct your shitty anatomy

No. 597575

I think it's supposed to be one of those round/bowl shaped church ceilings. And those small circles around it are windows.

No. 597577

This is the same person who got triggered when her audience said that Skinny emo's arms looked too long. 'you need to let that shit go man', wow way to be passive-aggressive. Your art 'career' was a mistake.

No. 597587

the centre of the roof has cracked glass/a hole in it and it's what the guy is stressing about so i assume is what your eye is meant to go to. your idea to put the speech bubble next to the focus is horrendous

No. 597593

Listen, if the stupid ceiling was actually drawn properly people wouldn't have to guess what the fuck was even going on. Also, if there is a whole plot line devoted to fixing up a hole in the ceiling (floor?) this must be one of the slowest/most boring comics out there. If it was anybody but Holly I would think they were trying to set up a Chekhov's gun, but I feel like that is giving Holly too much credit.

No. 597660

tbh this is better than her usual as far as utilizing different angles for perspective. I was impressed by the head tilted forward because I don’t think she ever drew a head tilt before this panel. I’m seeing improvement in her latest blogs. She is actually being more honest with herself with her commentary I think. I really hope she continues JP’s book. If she did a room clean up series it would be soooo satisfying for my ocd

No. 597723


"renevations" tho.
It's digital so fix your typos.

No. 597731

Tbh, I thought this was some sort of space craft and got really confused

No. 597742

the perspective on this is sooo confusing, like the inner circle wheel thing seems more slanted and then the outer and inner stuff is almost straight on??

and yeah i hope she takes Peterson's book to heart and actually cleans her room for once, every time she shows her filthy floor i'm overcome by a sudden desire to clean kek

No. 597767

>lucky if people don't fall through the floor

I also thought I was looking at the ceiling until I read that line – what the heck am I looking at?

I THINK he's trying to say in general for more than just the ceiling, but maybe she needs more shots to show that OTHER things are in disrepair too

No. 597816

Idk if its just me but it seems as time goes on, the more of a disgusting fujo she becomes

No. 597823

I think its really unprofessional that she doesn't open the boxes on video because it would feel way better to see a youtuber open your box and get to see their reaction upon opening it then to see your fave artist tell you they throw away letters as they show the shit they've already opened in a terribly unorganized way.

No. 598035

Does anyone know the timestamp on when Holly gets triggered on the last stream?

No. 598088

it's pretty obvious that it's the ceiling (probably more so if you've seen the previous pages) and saying that people will fall through the floor while showing the cracked ceiling is a good way to convey that the whole place is dilapidated. You wouldn't show each piece of damage as you list them off unless you were like, ulillillia. Are you the same anon that said
>put the speech bubble in the visual focus of the image

No. 598216

Did y’all see how Holly’s purgatory art got shamed on a thread started by a professional comic artist (Kris Anka). I would feel bad for her but now her bad attitude is now going to get noticed by actual comic professionals and I can’t wait to see how she’s going to rudely respond further. She’s already replied with the new comic page of the ceiling and some people are defending her by saying it’s an old page: but you can totally tell there’s been no improvement 👀

No. 598223

i thought it was a roulette table

pls link dear anon

No. 598231

No. 598233

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Original reply off Mr. Anka’s Post

No. 598234

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Holly’s response. Kris is a real nice guy and was supporting her so I guess he hasn’t checked out her twitter page for the kind of person she is. I feel bad for him, not her (she kinda deserves to be roasted by professional comic artists, so…)

No. 598245


fucking kek what a bitter bitch

Also the deadline for her bnha zine is tomorrow, you think all 105 people have their pieces done?

No. 598272

Did Holly really just fucking say that she doesn't do good work on her art in order to have a higher page production? Has she even looked at her fucking tapas recently? She doesn't post shit, and when she does it's like 3 pages a month! What the fuck is she talking about???
Mangakas who do work for magazines like Shonen Jump do like 20 pages a week and are stressed to the max because of it, and she's sitting there with her thumb up her ass like "see guys, I do work! My shitty Purgatory comic is just like Fullmetal Alchemist! We do the same amount of work cuz sometimes the fight scenes don't have backgrounds! LOL!" Jfc…

No. 598280

Yea, holly's argument doesn't hold up because she barely updates her comic. She's not even though chapter one of her new one. So what the hell is she talking about "page production"

No. 598281

>obsessing over details gets you nowhere
this is the person who draws every brick on the wall in a room instead of focusing on her characters on the page

No. 598283

>then its gonna take years if not decades to tell one story
How many highly acclaimed or praised comics or manga are wrapped up in less than a year, aside from one shots? Fucking Berserk spent 8 years on a boat; not that's a good thing, but it shows dedication to executing a story, which Holly lacks as she jumps from project to project. Like… I don't understand how she can look into the animation or comics industry under the assumption stories aren't told across years long development cycles.

No. 598312

The deadline’s tomorrow? Fuck that was so fast. No way everyone had time to make something of quality, considering that most of them probably have lives and the fact that there’s 105 (I still can’t get over that) people involved. Inb4 Holly announces that she has to push back the deadline or something

No. 598325

>Writing a comic where a human slave twink is raped by elves

No. 598350

We get it, Holly. You wanted to bone JD from Heathers. Nice creepy knock off character.

No. 598353

she keeps she doesnt want to come off as a creepy fujo but thats literally her to a T

No. 598373


She doesn't wanna fess up and call herself a fujoshi, but everything she writes is gross fujo fantasy bullshit.
So that'll just be her demographic and she better not fuckin complain about it. (you know she will tho)

OK good luck with that portland move, Holly. And your 15 other partly done projects.

No. 598412

Holly is so passive aggressive for absolutely no reason. Just learn to accept your flaws–why are you so stubborn about it?

No. 598420

She just HAD to respond, didn't she, with her "bluntness and honesty" Pathetic

No. 598466


I like how in that thread he fans are brining up newer and more detailed pages of hers. Is that supposed to impress the op? It surely doesn't impress me.

No. 598474

Found this on YT, a speedpaint for the True Colors zine. It looks really nice actually, this person’s wasting their talents on this mess of a zine lol. Once again Holly is less talented than her peers, her piece is gonna look like shit compared to stuff like this.

No. 598495

Anon this is really generic and shitty

No. 598496

shitty? I think it's pretty good considering the anatomy and perspective.

No. 598498


Certainly better than anything Holly shits out.

No. 598505

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The redhead's fucking arm tho?? Guys please. Also I agree with >>598495, the pose is really generic but I guess we can't expect much from Holly's Chosen 100.

At least we can't see the bottom of their feet…?

No. 598509

Anon here, I admit yeah it’s generic but it’a certainly not shitty. I guess I just expected a hell of a lot worse from the folks participating, considering Holly’s fanbase are all like 12 year olds

No. 598529

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Designs for Hollys new yaoi nsfw comic. Because she needs another project. These look so shitty

No. 598530

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As someone whose read plenty of yaoi i have no idea what she means by the "elf" thing

No. 598533

I love seeing people involved in this zine trying to tetris that awkward ass logo somewhere in their image.

No. 598535

As a gay I can tell you my skin is actually crawling rn. This looks like an adult and a child wtf. And the elf looks more like a rendition of Satan tbh.

No. 598540

So she's creating her character designs off of what other people might like instead of what will work best for her story? If you want to pander so blantantly at least don't admit to it. These designs are creepy af, that size difference reminds me of the worst yaoi, why not just draw a straight couple at this point bc that's what they look like. Ofc holly would latch onto the worst tropes in yaoi as a nasty fujo

No. 598548

"i'm not a fujo" BRown squawks as she creates a very stereotypical seme and uke set of characters that are not indicative of actual gay relationships.

No. 598563

Look at the positioning of their feet. She still can't draw outside of certain poses…this is so amateur.

No. 598565


God these are so ugly lol which one is supposed to be the elf? The small one? Is the larger one supposed to be an orc of some sort? Tbh I see more hetero orc/elf nsfw more popular than same sex nsfw, so idek wtf she’s going on about with the “Yao I readership”?????

No. 598568

Ugh, her art does not at all suit anything pornographic in nature, not sexy or appealing at all.

No. 598570

I'm glad she does it, though. It entertains me very much. How much more milky would other artcows be if they drew horrible you porn? Holly blesses.

No. 598571

Yaoi porn*

No. 598596

no ofense but but if she's atracted to females why she always talks about gay shit only centered around males, and males seen from the perspective of a horny 10 y/0 … like fuck

No. 598602


Because she's a fujo anon, plain and simple it's what they do.

No. 598626

I don't believe for a second she's bi. She's straight and wants license to write gay characters cuz she's "one of them too!" Smh.

No. 598632

She's not bi. If you've noticed it's become a trend to call yourself ""super hecking gay"" these days because acknowledging the existence of attractive women means you're attracted to them for these ppl. Also a lot of straight ppl claim lgbt status through some made up gender bullshit and demisexual/asexual crap but don't want to open up that can of worms here lmao

No. 598654


Nah, you can stop right there anon.

Holly is a fucking classic fujo, point blank period. Let's not throw the sexuality discourse into the mix, because that doesn't matter when you're a fetishizing bitch. There's no other justification for that.

Anyway, has she updated at all on that fanzine? Is she gonna inevitably push back the due date? God I can't wait for this and her 9 other projects to flop lmao.

No. 598656

Kind of sad but I can't imagine either sex liking her, don't even want to think about her drooling over another individual.

No. 598657

imagine her moving out to portland but then not being able to afford it because she spends money on bullshit she doesn't need.
also, imagine her with a roommate.

No. 598661

It'll happen, no need to imagine, that is if she gets the balls to move.
God I would hate to be her roommate, I'm not the tidiest individual myself but damn her room is disgusting.

No. 598710

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Looks like Holly's T-shirt design didn't win, meaning now she has to pay full price for the one table.

No. 598715

were the designs suposed to be themed with those animals? no shit holly lost

No. 598716

>>598715 They didn't have to have the mascots but it was suggested. 2017's designs didn't have them.

No. 598725

Was she actually betting on that, to not pay full price? Dang, this must be a reality check.

No. 598728

which thread can i find her submission in?

No. 598734

>people love that
Why isn’t she drawing what she loves, instead of for a random made-up market (genuinely never seen that combination enough to be memorable)? It’s so transparent that all she sees is dollar figures. There’s not enough skill for her to make up the lack of heart.

No. 598735

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>>598728 It was like 3 threads back

No. 598740

Don't want to be overly mean but aren't elves supposed to be… you know, otherwordly beautiful. At least Tolkien elves are. Her elf reminds more of that orc pig thing from Return of the King than an elf jfc

No. 598747

From what she said on her last video they are more genetically engineered super humans than 'elves'. I think she just calls them elves because it's easier for people to relate to that?

No. 598751

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Speaking as a connoisseur of gay elves, this is the most unappealing concept art of an elf I’ve ever fucking seen. Why is he so old and jowely? Why is he dressed like a business entrepreneur in the 1700s? Why is his face so fucking narrow?

If she’s trying to tap into the gay elf market then she should probably look at what elves typically look like instead of drawing some ugly old yaoi dude with pointed ears. If she wants to make a fuckhuge tall elf that isn’t ethereally beautiful then look at the high elves from Elder Scrolls, for instance - they have a sort of alien appearance without being flat out ugly or off putting.

I think Holly’s biggest weakness is character design. She makes flat out unappealing characters yet pushes them for pornographic consumption?

No. 598759

Yeah, I don't think elves are all necessarily beautiful but they shouldn't look like normal dudes with pointy ears. Holly has a terrible sense of aesthetic, all her characters are boring and unnapealibg.
Something tells she only cares about elves because of that dnd podcast with the gay elf, highly doubt she has any interest in fantasy.
Besides if she wanted actual inspiration for gay elves she could look into all the lotr fandom shit since that is pretty much breeding ground for gay elves.

No. 598777

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There are just so many places to draw inspiration for elves that there’s no excuse to draw a human with elf ears. It’s so lazy. I know that Holly is terrified of using references but if she thinks that gay elf consumers are going to be in her ugly little porn comic that is specifically made to pander to people who like elves, she’s in for a rude awakening. Ok, I’m done sperging about elves.

So she must really be hurting for money if she’s gone straight to drawing porn of what she thinks people want to see. It’s actually really pathetic how desperately she’s trying to pander to an audience that doesn’t exist. Why not sell more commissions of what people ACTUALLY want instead of blindingly spinning the wheel and thinking she’s going to strike gold?

No. 598788

Does Holly even enjoy doing art anymore or is it all about the $$$$ now? Because it doesn't seem like she does to me. All she does is shit on challenges/ subjects (such as mermaids)/ art styles/ creators

No. 598876

It sure as hell doesn't sound like it, she seems to be in it for money, recognition and bragging rights, none of which she has so so far it's all been for naught.

No. 599207

i am a huge fujo and this literally repulsed me, wow, it can be done. the size difference thing only works when it doesn't look like a 50 year old rapey uncle and his 13 year old nephew. neither of them is attractive in anyway.

yes yes yes yes

oh shit, this was a serious submission to something and not just a print she hoped to sell? fuck

>connoisseur of gay elves
so you wanna drop some imgs in the fujo thread in /ot/ that would be okay

No. 599242

For the amount of 'rapey uncles' Holly has in her work I'm beginning to get a bit concerned about her past…

No. 599244

honestly i dont think she realizes how creepy her characters come out looking (that clever kitchen kid is a fucking demon wearing a human suit), something between her eyes and her brain is broken in a way that makes her see this as an attractive older man. she's totally blind to how ugly her art is in general, it shouldn't be a surprise.

No. 599320

oh dear…

No. 599325

is it too pussy to ask that this be spoilered? real groce

No. 599330

o shit, how do I do that? My bad mad it is gross, my bad.

No. 599353


she's such a know it all. "people love that" holly, just admit you wanna draw creepy shota porn lmao

No. 599357

check the spoiler image box under imgur URL

No. 599373

Isn’t the point of yaoi to have attractive boys fuck each other? Why do they look so ugly?

No. 599384

Because that's what you get with the Holly BRown authentic experience!

No. 599568

Why in god’s name would Holly make this her thumbnail for her audience of 12 year olds? I’m an adult and it kinda freaks me the fuck out like wtf

No. 599570

for people to click on it , plus no common sense to know thats gross..

No. 599586

Her monitor looks like it hasnt been properly cleaned in years yuck.

No. 599624

at least holly doesn’t have high standards for men…

No. 599770

Watching the video, it's kind of hilarious how Holly's desktop files are in about as much disarray as her fucking room

No. 599827

It's the first,and still no news about that zine. why am I not surprised

No. 599834

Is anyone asking about it yet?

No. 599844

>> 599834
She never sent an email with a hard deadline or even a follow up after May ended…

No. 599854

Yikes. At least we're getting solid proof she doesn't work as hard as she claims to. Now that she's involved others in a zine she's accountable for the hours all those artists put into their work too

No. 599860

hey, i dont want to sound mean but are houses like.. cheaper in texas? because thats a big fucking house with a really nice garden for someone who said was really really poor growing up

No. 599885

yeah kind of but it could be a rental, it's really beyond nitpicky to start up about something like that. it just turns into people listing off rent where they live and being culture-shocked

this is the one project i have any faith might actually be finished, to any degree

No. 599888

i'm just confused as to how she thinks she can move to a more expensive location when she's already complaining about being poor where they live

No. 599889


Only because the participants are the ones doing the majority of the work. All she has to do is sit there, draw 1 entry and put it together.

No. 599890

>>599885 im the original anon, and yeah its super nitpicky but i was just confused since im nowhere near the US and that seemed like a really big house.

No. 599892

i'm not trying to be mean to you specifically, but i feel like this convo happens at least once in every single thread on this site. the website zillow will teach you the wonders of cheap american real estate better than anons trying to stay on topic will

and she's def gonna hand print and hand cut the books and theyre gonna come out a fucking mess

No. 599897

I really feel bad for the participants' art. It's not going to be treated with care, set up, or assembled properly.

No. 599899

Can't wait to see the shitty zine, would be fun to see people buy it from everyone but her.

No. 599904


It'd be delicious irony, seeing as she wanted to make everything about this Zine about her . . .
>Oh, I coordinated this Zine
>Oh, I organized it.
>Oh, I chose the colors.
>Oh, I'M putting them together by hand.

like…Actually, anon, that's a good question. If she's making these herself, how is distribution going to work? Is she going to sell them from her own website? Do no other artists…get to distribute? Then that would mean whatever revenue it makes, goes to her first.

If this gets made, keep an eye on the price of this zine wherever she sells it, guys. Online and at San-Japan.

No. 599908


It seemed like she was going to leave distribution up to each artist, at least that's what it looked like in the beginning. She doesn't want more responsibility beyond that. Still is she going to ask that the participants pay for shipping to get their zines? How can she think she's going to do this herself, that's 100+ zines at least. She should've done a preorder since she's so obsessed with instant money.

No. 599910

Also I hope to god I can make it at least one day to SJ so I can see her and her disaster of a booth and artwork in person.

No. 599912

i agree, and she's probably going to use that individual distribution catch as a reason to sell it herself and not give any royalties to the other artists. maybe she'll go full momokun tier scammer, sell it herself promising royalties, then hella underreport how much it made and insist she hasn't made enough to pay anyone. after her cut for printing and cutting the books herself on top of her normal artist contribution, of course.

No. 599915


This is exactly what I was thinking.
100 artists prolly just got scammed. shoulda been smart about it, but then again these are more than likely, Holly's followers, after all.
Just because some of them draw OK doesn't mean they're smart on decisions like
'not going into a zine with a hazy deadline and flimsy-ass rules run by an artist who can't even finish her own projects', but hey.

No. 599916

She actually changed the thumbnail.

No. 599917


She definitely reads here.

No. 599919

imagine if she uses shipping charges and printing/cutting the books in-house herself as a justification to charge artists for their own work

No. 599923


That's the thing though, anon, she can't do pre-orders because she can't even be certain she'll complete the damn project. She doesn't want to be held accountable for what might not happen.


She has quite a lot more explaining to do and as far as we can tell, no second video has gone up divulging any further details. I wouldn't put this past her…

No. 599928

True, at least she's just a bit dumb and overly ambitious than an outright malicious scammer.
It would really do her good to just listen to someone but everything anyone says is a personal attack. Try and tell her to take a part time job to help with finances and she'll rip your head off, tell her to prioritize and she'll complain to her minions for asspats.
Holly please, don't screw yourself and everyone over, be responsible and admit you need help with the zine if it's to be done.

No. 599930

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Oh lordy. What are those colors

No. 599931


so we not gonna talk about that NSFW Patreon she casually linked under her last vlog video?

She said she plans on just 'using it for dry months' but that's not how Patreon works…? You need to consistently update it with work, not just when you're broke, and decide to trickle in some WIP of your shitty NSFW comic Holly.

No. 599934


someone should ask "Is that Herschel" on every male drawing of hers she posts with that damn flippy hair.

No. 599935


Orange highlight with blue shadow, holly, that's not how complimentary colors work dear. Still she says she's got color theory in the bag.
Surprisingly it's not the colors that piss me off the most, it's that stupid ass chin on nightwing. If she gonna draw a profile like that the least she could do is even it out with some volume in the lips.
Even more than that it's the goddamn hair flips. I get it, wispy hair bits are fun to draw, I do it all the time, but those aren't at all wispy or interesting whatsoever, they're just stupid.

No. 599945


I haven't the energy for that talk anon, it's the same old stupid attempt to get easy monies. Of she was smart shed use Patreon as a full time job, that's what a lot of comic artists do but seeing as she can't get shit done in a timely manner Patreon really wouldn't work for her like she says.

No. 599960

Holly spurges about how terrible her art was before though shes still making the same mistakes (mainly art lean)

No. 599967

She’s opening up preorders for her shitty rape porn comic though? The fact that she didn’t for the zine - where she’s employed one hundred artists - is actually super fucking sus.

No. 599968

Of course she's going to try and give credit to the sketchbook slam challenge! It's sad knowing she could have been at least three times better than before if she just practiced with purpose rather than drawing a whole bunch of random shit in a big ass sketchbook. Holly stop kidding yourself and stop trying to peddle out your stupid sketchbooks.

No. 599969

Because even if she'd be in shit for her comic failing shed be in even more shit for making a dime off of other peoples names.

No. 599979

This is the 3rd time she's using Patreon… fucking decide if you're gonna stick to it, jfc

No. 599981

This is some RCDart level regression
Her art my have been bad anatomy wise but atleast it was a hell of alot more stylized to make up for it, kinda gives me the johen Vasquez vibe almost

No. 599982

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Sorry forgot pic for the comparison she herself made

No. 599986

Every time I see Damien I feel anger. Damien does not look like a boy at all

No. 599988

How does this even happen?? The page composition used to be so interesting.

No. 599991


On the left page, it's almost like you can feel Simon's anxiety/nervousness. It's pretty interesting.

No. 599992

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Peeked in on her Tumblr and watch out, Holly's going to take on Hollywood!

No. 599993

>last film i liked was had heavy gay romance themes

holly pls cmon

No. 599994

The one on the left looks genuinely more interesting. The new one is completely boring. How can holly be so blind to this I’ll never understand.

No. 599995

Houses are definitely cheaper in Texas, especially if you don't live in one of the larger cities.

No. 599996

I haven't seen a Hollywood film in a long time either, if we're talking in theaters probably more than 6 years.
Still though, I highly doubt this is all that uncommon and nothing to really toot your horn about. A lot of people seem generally dissatisfied with the lowest common denominator that is the current film industry plus the ubiquity of arguably better alternatives that you can enjoy from your own home.

No. 600006

Last year was a great year for movies, there are Good movies that come out every year. And I know she's not shitting on mainstream movies not focusing on cinematography when Isle of Dogs came out this year. I think she just doesn't have the attention span to pay attention to a movie for 2 hours. It's so easy to make blanket negative statements about an industry, you're not special holly

No. 600011

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>>599992 i wonder what excuse is she going to say

No. 600012


She might as well just be a rant channel, since all she does is bitch and moan about industries that she isn't a part of.

No. 600014


it begins.
I hope the anon who was with us who got in can provide the milk like before…

how many people you wanna bet dropped off? Because I hardly see any buzz for this zine and I could be wrong.

No. 600018

Oh my god. Holly talking about her "chin phase"at around 28 minutes.
Her fixing her old art us literally just her making the face more narrow. HOLLY YOU DIDN'T FIX THE CHIN YOU JUST MADE THEIR ENTIRE FACE LONG.
You see this on all her art now. Every character looks like their face got put in a vice.

No. 600043


That old Purgatory artwork has more life and soul in it than anything she's done sense wtf. I never read Purgatory (never had the urge.) But had Purgatory had that old style I would have definitely.

No. 600062

She isn't good enough to do professional or clean looking work so she should've just pushed the old style since it had personality and personality can absolutely have people overlook some anatomy mistakes.

No. 600110

Honestly i'm not crazy about the old purgatory style. I agree its less rigid, and maybe more fluid, but that oversaturated red bothers me so much. Its hard to read whose saying what. Also, you can totallytell shes a mcr fan by that page lol. I just dont think shes good at comics, period.

No. 600130

Yeah I feel the same. Holly Brown needs to spend a good few hours actually studying before she'll be ready to make anything dynamic or fluid. Not to mention perspective?? Pretty important in comics.

No. 600212


Her old style reminds me of a mix of Jhonen Vasquez and Tim Burton (both styles which personally annoy me). Somewhere between her old stuff and now she became absolutely obsessed with the idea of being a 'self-made professional' that she thought shortcuts and spending money were a good idea to get there. She missed the boat on putting effort into her studies and networking.

Now she just makes long-chin, fugly art for her 80 projects.


is that Herschel, kek

No. 600222

I think she also obsessed over making her boy characters look fuckable instead of unique. Holly is still terribad so they are only fuckable to her of course, or if you're wearing drunk goggles.

No. 600243

I believe she buys so many art supplies she doesn't need because she gets a tax right off for things she uses for her "business", since she's registered End All Graphics as an LLC

No. 600252

Agreed. It's been said before A LOT, but here it comes again: Holly's idea of making her art look more professional is her making it fucking BORING and devoid of anything resembling personality. The early Purgatory wasn't the awesomest thing ever either, but at least it wasn't this current "I'm so far up my own ass I can chew the contents of my own stomach" shit?

No. 600287

for the most part yea housing in Texas is pretty cheap , At least compared to my state …Which is why i'm planning on moving after college to Texas (( also because I have more family based in Texas ))hopefully not anywhere near holly pls .

No. 600298


does anyone have a screenshot of the old thumbnail she had for this vid? Missed it before she changed it

No. 600303

File: 1527968324330.png (Spoiler Image, 82.58 KB, 276x236, oldthumb.png)

No. 600363

So Holly showed one comission she made. One. Didn't she say she has a 100 comissions?? Wtf happened to all of that.

No. 600367

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No. 600379

That elf fucking looks like Armored Skeptic hahaha

aka horrifically ugly. cannot believe she finalized that design wow

No. 600388

definitely not ed and roy at all…

No. 600393

Holly is also really into Killing Stalking rn so maybe it's inspired. Has the same edge lord rapey feel fo sho

No. 600398

File: 1527978231018.png (175.05 KB, 515x820, leggies.png)

i can't unsee the weird gradient shading in the what's supposed to be fold of fabric as weird shadow between two fucked-up legs. the other one looks like he's wearing an unflattering denim skirt.

it's so much them that it looks like she just traced the back of roy's coat and that's why it makes no sense and looks like pic related to me

No. 600400

File: 1527978497343.png (93.49 KB, 373x417, moonface.png)

the anon who said she's just squishing the faces was spot on

No. 600401

the upturned, broken foot will never stop being funny lmao

No. 600405


What is going on here, they're not even making eye contact - the blond is looking right past him. Lol. Also the proportions are so off the blond looks like he's standing at least a metre away and back from the other guy.

No. 600623

File: 1528002501807.png (274.24 KB, 490x498, ozarka.png)

>blames Texas weather and deer for shitty garden
I live in Texas and my garden looks fine.
Buy deer repellent and water your fucking garden
Also I like how this poor artist wastes her money on Fuji water when they sell pic related(3 liter) for a dollar at Walmart

No. 600626

Yeah but nestle

No. 600650

She thought it was Fujo water

No. 600659

It's because she's a goddamn weeb. A lot of anime have those square bottles so I guess she thinks it looks cool and buys it.

No. 600663

I disagree, I just think because of the "flavor" or the fact it looks "cool", either way Holly is dumb for buying it when she could just get it from the tap or something

No. 600665

The tangent of the choker chain and the elf's right epaulet is confusing as fuck. I thought he was wearing some contraption where the chains link to the epaulets.

No. 600675


There is no tension on that chain at all, is he supposed to be whipping it around? It's just super awkward

No. 600677


actually, now that you mention it, I can't unsee that weird chin/jaw/bottom lip tangent that runs right into his epaulet…my eye went right to it.

No. 600814

File: 1528037049703.png (188.95 KB, 640x1136, image.png)

Idealizes suicide? Really Holly?

No. 600819

>>Anatomy looks wonky
>>adds random lines to add definition instead of learning muscles positioning

No. 600827

I can’t wait for six months time when she calls this the “floppy hair and squiggly arm lines” phase and sperges about how bad it looks

No. 600829

She will just slightly change the lines/hair shape and say she "fixed it".

No. 600836

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Scientists have predicted what Holly's art will look like in the future and it's beautiful.

No. 600837

Woah that's chillingly accurate. Dunning Kruger really takes a toll you.

No. 600838

Oh my lord Anon. I keked hard.

No. 600842

My sides

No. 600849

oh my God A+ anon

No. 600930

File: 1528046650843.png (1.05 MB, 2817x3170, beef boy.png)

I should be working but this is more fun

No. 600935

The longer you stare at this the better it gets and I love it

No. 600947

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I agree that she shouldn't have to hide her own scars, but saying this while drawing a character who's all about being a greasy edgelord who cuts himself makes me chuckle.

No. 600961

LMAAAAAAOOOOOOOO thanks for the laugh, dude, I needed it today

No. 600967

File: 1528049712914.png (45.19 KB, 544x228, armies.png)

these are wonderful, anon, you inspire me

No. 600991

This and the redraws are just cluttering the thread, Holly’s work is entertainment enough

No. 600994

File: 1528051817360.png (36.4 KB, 241x226, widened.png)

hush, it's not cluttering the thread. a few threads ago when it was just 'look at her terrible characters in my superior style'! yeah that sucked, but this is hate art. people do the same for the onision/momokun threads, but it's drawings of them; holly's art is more of a point of ridicule than her IRL face, so hate art is of her art.

imo posting just to whine "these posts are cluttering the thread" is the penultimate example of doing just that.

i tried to make >>598529 wide for comedic effect and i think this is actually better

No. 601020

does she mean suicidal IDEATION?

No. 601021

I'm a raging fujo and even I think this looks fucking awful and a boring overused concept, plus her drawing style ruins any attempt at porn trying to be erotic. The way she draws reminds me a lot of Tom Preston/Andrew Dobson and to be fair she's pretty much the female equivalent of him.

I spit out my drink anon, thanks a lot

No. 601022

You're right, what the actual fuck is he supposed to be doing?

No. 601105

Man I hate to say anything nice about Dobson but I like his art more than Holly's. At least his characters are expressive. Hers are like paper dolls with long faces.

No. 601139

I saw this before the original image and was like wow what the fuck Holly is drawing a face that DOESN'T look like the moon man and of course it was an edit. It seriously highlights how cartoonishly narrow and cluttered she makes the faces.

No. 601168

File: 1528059028238.png (147.18 KB, 640x259, True Colors Logo.png)

The logo for the zine was bothering me, so I tried to fix it in photoshop. Took five minutes. This isn't my greatest work, but it's still better than Holly's.
Yes, I took the transparent bnha logo from google.

No. 601173

>comic I'll be working on for $$$
Is she really so insecure about drawing porn that she needs to mention that it's all "just for the money" EVERY TIME?

No. 601207

This. I come here to cringe at shit like this not to give asspats to the other artists on this thread

No. 601212


She's trying to play it off like it's something she HAS to do but we all know she likes it

No. 601215


Cluttered face issue is usually solved by using guidelines instead of just randomly throwing them down

No. 601218

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seriously, all of her recent faces are improved just by stretching them horizontally. the top one looks like the original is the edit.

>i am the fun police, how dare you expect me to scroll past 3 comments in a thread that give someone else positive attention, i must shit it up now

No. 601226


I love holly's logic. Fucks up on something different- I've totally improved guys!!

No. 601229

Anon these are visual shitposts, not tryhards trying to get asspats. Logo anon is probably kinda tryhard but it's just a logo, so chill.

I really don't know why Holly draws faces so long. First it was just long chins, but now the entire face is like a straight line. Maybe it's related to her art lean in that she tilts her canvas too far back and draws what she think looks correct from her viewing angle. Also, she probably thinks longer face=more masculine=more fuckable.
It really bugs me how she draws adam's apples as very defined "U"s on their necks. They just look like flaps.

No. 601237


Lmao the adams apples are fish gills.


She's making such a big deal out of it like she's a middle schooler "TEE HEE guys oh NOOO look at me I'm making NAUGHTY YAOI ART, but it's just for MONEYYY haha! It's just a short project! omg I can't believe I'mdoing this. I don't normally !"
And her teen followers are eating it up because they think she's being so 'fringe and edgy'. The majority of artists I know personally and that I follow, who do NSFW art are usually chill. It's bodies. And if she actually did her studies, it wouldn't be a big deal…She wouldn't be so dramatic about it to try to cover up the fact that she doesn't even have the basics down.

She's so insecure that she always feels the need to put on airs when she talks about drawing a fucking dick and she needs to get over herself but prolly won't.

No. 601241


The twist we weren't expecting, Holly's characters are all secretly fish people


This, though. It's like someone's drawing their favorite naughty gay characters in the back of a classroom. Holly's what, 22 now?

No. 601243

idk why she's making this big of a deal about 'omg i have to do it' when this isn't even the first gay 'doujinshi' she's put out?? doesn't purgatory have some sexual content too? she used to have a NSFW instagram until the fun police reported it into nonexistence imo. her claim to fame, purgatory, is a BL comic, no one is surprised she's making more BL comics.

No. 601247

What I wanna know is why she thinks she can make more money with porn when her audience is mostly underage.
She can't sell to them, and no new fans will come to buy her nsfw content since it just looks bad.

No. 601253

Still think its a stupid move to sell nsfw comics using her real name tho, especially if she wants to get into the animation industry later

No. 601259

Are you implying that she'd get in even without porn attached to her name? I'd say drawing porn is less of an offense than some of the stunts she's already pulled.
Mainly needlessly insulting other artists and acting like a cocky know-it-all. There have been animators who openly draw NSFW and still get in the industry. I don't know if it's as extreme as car boot gay date rape, lol.

No. 601262

Honestly, nobody I've encountered gives a single fuck if you draw porn. I remember a lot of animators I know didn't care about the whole "Rebecca Sugar Ed Edd n Eddy porn" thing because… well, what artist hasn't drawn weird porn at any point?

The funny part about Holly is that one: she's acting like it's the biggest deal ever to draw porn, and two: it's really really bad.

No. 601279

Lol doubt she'd get in the industry, and please dont misunderstand i have nothing against nsfw. But most artists/mangakas use a pseudonym for a reason, if she wants to become a teacher a high school wouldnt hire her

No. 601284

now that is gonna be hard if you're planning on drawing gay rape.

No. 601303

Holly BRown did a collab

No. 601305

I feel violated somehow.

No. 601315

I feel violated and full of cringe
I legitimately couldn't cringe harder when she played the foot lettuce meme

No. 601319

>>601303 she has literally 39 subs, i wonder how many holly weeaboos will subscribe her just because her leader says

also wtf with that fucking background sound

No. 601320

>skip past the annoying intro
>suddenly Holly says "Having sex with a child or someone mentally impaired"
Holly do you really have to go from an introduction to fucking pedo rape in the span of 60 seconds….

No. 601344

Context? Sorry can't watch it atm but Im curious how tf that comes up so often for her.

No. 601352

No. 601364

they are talking about steven universe and apparently its implied that pink diamond, in holly's words, "has sex with a bunch of cavemen" and says that it was "equivalent to having sex with a child or someone mentally impaired"

No. 601391

>>601352 holly said something in between the lines of ''i hope my dog dies, he pees on everything'' and …. god dammit

No. 601405

That’s a popular fan commentary on YouTube. She’s just regurgitating shit she’s heard, I’m sure, like she does for art.
Someone please give that more context so it’s not so soul crushing. Please. Like she was saying “things bad owners say about their dogs” or something

No. 601433

the romanian girl hears the dog and asks if that is the dog and she replies "his name is pig, hes old and I hope he passes away soon. I hope he dies. He pees on my shoes."

No. 601434

Holly replies not the romanian girl

No. 601436

Geez what a bitch, why doesn't she put the poor thing down if he so old he's incontinent?
She's absolutely horrible or just constantly putting her foot in her mouth on accident (not likely)

No. 601448

Holly used to draw porn yeah, i'm pretty sure someone could find it on the like 2nd or 3rd thread. The only one i can remember is the backwards dick she made. Also, she aged up her purgatory characters just because she wanted them to fuck.

No. 601506

Whaaaat I thought they weren't friends anymore? Can't wait for things to turn to shit again

No. 601544

Dobson is a dick but it is obvious he has some knowledge of art.
Holly on the other hand really doesn't seem like she knows what she is doing and just brute forces her way through projects without learning anything.

No. 601546

It's edits like this that really make me wonder if Holly legitimately has something wrong with her eyes. Like how can she not see the blatant mistakes in her work?

No. 601549

The only reason I can think of for the faces to be elongated is that Holly probably slouches when she draws which means that the faces are all drawn at an awkward viewing angle. This is also the reason why some people have an art lean early in their drawing career.

No. 601552

I'm pretty sure the dog isn't hers/it belongs to her Aunt.

Holly is definitely just drawing porn because she wants to and not because she sincerely believes she can make a ton of money off it. But hey, maybe I'm wrong, maybe Holly thinks she can become the next Koogi.

Meh, I'm glad Holly is friends with the romanian girl again, they deserve each other.

No. 601554

Wasn’t she the one coming here and confirming lots of horrible things about her? And now they’re friends again? Wow she really must be fame hungry.

No. 601559


No, that was the second friend. Not the Romanian girl.

But I do think Romanian girl is using her so I can agree with that second part.

No. 601560

What was all the stuff the Romanian girl did/said again?

No. 601591

Why did they think it was a good idea to two frame animate their avatar like they’re epileptic or something?

No. 601611

Wow, the lineart from Holly is so bad. Like there is absolutely no composition and the whole thing looks so wonky.

Not going to lie but the flats from the Romanian girl that Holly posted on her channel looked nice until Holly went in and ruined it with her coloring. Why does Holly have to saturate everything with that ugly piss filter? Someone should post that video too.

No. 601648

The versions I’ve heard are basically implying that for diamond ages PD was underage and the equivalent of a kid, not that the cavemen were new or mentally impaired. Guess Holly got it wrong, or there’s this other version that doesn’t make any sense to me, in some internet commentary.

I hate how she colours and how she brags about knowing about colours. Are you fucking BLIND, BRown?

No. 601818


This is actually unwatchable. I couldn't get past "Lol Steven Universe is kiddie porn". Like… what kind of person decides THIS is the kind of content they want to associate themselves with? They both sound like 12 year olds who are trying too hard to be "edgy and mature". This is supposed to be a professional illustrator? Comic author? I'm so irrationally put off by this.

No. 601824


They're both insufferable and I hope there's no more of this in the future.

No. 601840

I must be irrational too then, I don't want to touch that video with a 10ft pole

No. 601928

at least she seems happy? This is probably the first interaction she's had in a while besides her family. I'm happy and sad for her.

No. 602066

She wants to get into animation and she’s implying that SU has sexual underage themes…clearly she doesn’t want to get hired. This will pop up with her name - including the comments about the nsfw rape comics she wants to make

Holly what are you doing???

No. 602074


I don't think she really wants to get into animation. she switched her focus from california to Portland, remember? maybe she figured out that it's going to take WORK to unfuck her online presence and getting hired in animation wasn't happening any time soon.

No. 602083

Did she even say why she wants to go to portland???

No. 602089


iirc it was to go to school there, to major in like, furniture design for ikea or some vague ass bullshit because "it makes bank". Something less to do with art and more to do with money which isn't surprising.

No. 602091

The Romanian girl constantly bitched about holly on her Instagram story, I'm surprised that they are on talking terms again

No. 602137

The Romanian girl is just as much of a stupid bitch as Holly imo. Spergy fuck

No. 602139

why are we just calling this bitch romanian girl? whats her fucking name

No. 602149


Romanian Girl Jr.

No. 602156

I think we started calling her that because she changed her username after some backlash she got? I could be rembering that wrong though it was quite a few threads back.

No. 602227


Isn't her name Ioana? I think Holly's said her name before in videos way back when they were friends the first time. Don't know if she's deleted the videos.

No. 602317

Yea her name is Ioana

No. 602321

Here you go.

No. 602327

"it's a little rude for you to turn it in late "
well don't make a short deadline for people
how much do you want to bet people have reached out to her and she never replied ?

No. 602353

Anon you're a star and this train wreck is hilarious.

No. 602359

loved how she pulled " this was hard to do this guyz"
she didn't have to take on 110 (? correct me if i'm wrong)
but then again it's hard to feel sorry for her since she did bring this upon herself really.

No. 602372


This is a disaster, she is a disaster, she should never have undertaken something like this and blaming the technology on her not being able to communicate with the artists is lazy. Being the manager of this project means she should be at it full time to make sure everything runs smoothly but no she's so busy with her other quick money schemes she can't handle it.
Holly is an absolute wreck and o can't wait to see this atrocious zine with limited copies.

No. 602416

I feel kinda bad for the people who didnt have time for such a short deadline, like, yeah there are lazy people but theres also people who study or work and take commisions… like holly, do you get that not everyone can dedicate there whole day to doing jackshit?

also saying that videos are better is fucking stupid, just write your shit holly, most people can read a fucking page and a half

No. 602417

>>602321 is she rushing everyone so she can have something to sell at the con? lol

No. 602428

She said in previous videos that she aims to have this fanzine as an effortless book to bring at the con.
She would probably end up having only this and her first purgatory book, which is hilarious because she wanted to bring
Purgatory 2
Paranormal plague 1
Hamilton booklet
Plus shit I can’t remember right now.

No. 602490

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First of all, ew. Second why does she say idk so much?? Drives me crazy.

No. 602492

Holly boys crotches are not like that. Also you can’t have the jeans on one side like that without some kind of wrinkle and you don’t pull out your leg so easily to just have one leg completely naked if you’re struggling. You should have pulled out all of the jeans and give him some balls and penis and a proper pelvis.
Wasn’t she against microns? Thought they were crappy and she wanted to build the definitive one.

No. 602494


No. 602495

I thought this was some weird female to male porn or butchy porn

No. 602503

I'm confused where's the dick??
Genuinely don't know, is the character trans? WTF is happening

No. 602507

She says idk a lot because she wants validation lmao

No. 602510

Lol guys i think she hasnt inked the dick yet. Cant be sure tho

No. 602525

Where would it even go? There’s no empty space for it to be inked. Boxcutter kid is straight up eating him out.

No. 602527

maybe hes wearing underwear and she hasnt inked it?? Still a mess lol

No. 602528

these faces are so unsexy. Top dude looks like he's pulling a splinter out of his finger and bottom dude looks like he's staring off into the void.

No. 602531

Even if he was wearing underwear there should be some kind of bulge. Unless emo kid is just licking a small limp dick

No. 602538

File: 1528223605845.gif (1.28 MB, 245x180, 4f2852f7-0fa6-4161-a2cb-0444e5…)

… I'm…pretty sure the small line between the mouth and hand is the indication of a bulge. how horrible.

No. 602540

My assumption is that greasekid just ate the entire dick or cut it off. How's he supposed to know how oral sex works? Who would willingly sleep with this character and give him any sort of experience at all?

Irony aside, this is just beyond terrible. I feel sorry for anyone who would find this sexy.

No. 602541

the hershchel dude looks confused and weirded out lmao. i'm pretty sure people don't make that face when they're in a consensual sexual situation.

this is just so unsettling. and the crotch is so incorrect. just. no.

No. 602549


No. 602561

Looks to me like hes supposed to be liking the balls and the dick would be laying on the abdomen. Lol watch Holly end up doing somthing different and nonsensical though.

No. 602570

I couldn't even tell it was supposed to be his jeans on the left leg until you pointed it out……..

No. 602582

Lmfaooo hershel is supposed to be biting his lips omfg it looks so bad

No. 602604

If this is what TWO panels of this cursed comic looks like then I really can not wait to see the final product. What's even funnier is that Holly really thinks she's going to be able to make legitimate money off of this.

No. 602619

lmao hershel's flips are at maximum capacity here

also does she not pencil sketch before going in with the pen?

No. 602626

I thought this was all being done digitally…the lines do look like they're digital. So is she like doing touchups on a half completed page? I'm confused.

No. 602632

She did this with purgatory at first. She sketches in pencil, puts a paper on top and inks it directly with a lightbox. Which leads to a lot of mistakes.

No. 602818

Ok phantom dick aside, is his hand teleporting through the other guy’s leg? This whole thing is so visually confusing. Where’s the other pant leg? Where’s his underwear? Where’s the other guys other hand? Where’s his happy trail? His hip bones? Why is the licking guy looking so unsexy? Who is going to fap to this? Who is going to spend money on this??

I have so many questions.

No. 602822

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And what is this hair?? A reverse mullet? Bangs down to his chin which defy gravity?

No. 602832

Holly doesn't seem to understand her style does not translate well into porn. Not to mention porn artists tend to have an above average grasp on anatomy which Holly definitely does not.

No. 602837


Okay but is Reese's mouth on Hershey's mons pubis or what??? Not to brag (/s) but I've had sex with a man before and I can't really envision a man enjoying that? Feels like it was drawn by someone who

1. Doesn't know how sex works
2. Doesn't know how sex btwn 2 men works.

Wew ladies, we are in for a treat.

No. 602858

File: 1528245492893.png (491.23 KB, 571x688, dickstery.png)

benefit of the doubt: maybe she purposefully is omitting the dick until the last moment so she can post WIPs like this without them being technically NSFW in her mind. stupid idea because like someone else pointed out, this really looks like lesbian porn from just panel 2, but maybe?

No. 602887

my sides, anon… the noodle dick, though

No. 602891

even in jest, it couldn't get hard for this

No. 602894

>>602858 i wonder how big the dick will be, i guess this woman can imagine this weird ''beefy oc'' without a masive dick lol

No. 602905

i'm putting money on "long and skinny like the faces", tho hopefully right side on this time

No. 602950


Holly, for the love of god, watch some gay porn. Actual gay porn. Two guys slamming it raw, I don't care. She'd learn more from it than moving around her ken barbie dolls.

No. 602973

not to nitpick but that belly button is way too low on him, male belly buttons are further up. I wonder what she's using as reference…

No. 602985


Absolutely nothing, I'm surprised she doesn't since she seems to copy poses directly so often.

No. 603004

I'm SCREAMING it's so bad it's unreal. why does Hershey have a vagina? where the fuck is acne kid's hand coming from? what are these constipated expressions? has Holly ever seen 2 people interact sexually outside of some shitty Dorito chin doujins? why are the hair flips getting worse?

I have so many damn questions. imagine being this blind to your art.

No. 603059

This is not the lower body of a "beefboy" fully grown man. This is the lower body of a soft young woman.
Have you ever seen a man's belly button that looked like that? Have you ever seen a man's hips connect to a thigh like that? Even skinny men have muscle definitiin. They aren't like women where they become kinda long and soft… you would be able to see their muscles and some vascularity… and did I mention he's as bald as a newborn baby? Yeah Holly… a hunky Latino guy with NO HAIR BELOW THE EYEBROWS…

No. 603061

Scratch that. I forgot he had pubes on his armpit vaginas.

No. 603077


Those are two frames. Her head is between a pair of thighs.

No. 603101

that hand is bothering the shit out of me. for it to be in that position the wrist would have to be either really weirdly turned or that thigh would need to be stick thin. her anatomy is so bad…

No. 603104

anon knows that, the navel is too close to the crotch. i can't imagine how you think anon was seeing it

I'm laughing because she captioned it with something about micron pens and i thought she was saying he has a micropenis and it's so small you can't even see it because she used 'tiny lines'

No. 603199

I've noticed that whenever she does fanart, it's always the same 2-3 characters, it's like she has only seen two shows in her entire life (or she's obsessed with those characters)

No. 603204

Holly seems like she's projecting her own fantasies to the world whenever she does comics…. Not to mention that in her "gay" couples, one dude almost always looks like a chick (Damian, Reese)

No. 603205

That's actually a he LMAO

No. 603230

Out of four main characters, two have their eye covered by bangs, and all of them have horrible hair swoops (mostly under their ears) and yet she critiques same face syndrome? She doesn’t even change the hair.

No. 603285

Where's the Adonis Belt? tf looks like a skinny woman.

No. 603445

Imagine being the friend having to help her work on this comic jfc. And watching her manually fill in the lines at 2:15 makes me want to scream.

No. 603481


> 21:36 "I don't think I'm being facetious when I say that I think that my art level and her art level are very similar "

> Shows her own comic page

I don't think I've ever laughed harder in my entire life.

No. 603484

I guess now burping in vlogs is a thing huh? fucking gross.

No. 603487

Uh well she's not wrong, really. Honestly after seeing lucid's work and patreon I thought "shit, maybe Holly can actually make bank with her bad yaoi comics".

No. 603490

I'm fucking crying

No. 603492

Im in tears. She's really blind to her art isn't she?

No. 603493

I'm pretty sure this is just me, but I like her more when she shows her face (at least in this video)… I guess her expressions make her seem more chill and vulnerable to me. It could have just been the topic she was discussing (her body issues). I feel bad for her. She may be doing it ineffectively but at least she's aware of the problem and trying to improve.

No. 603504

You're not alone. It's interesting how it humanizes her.

No. 603517

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you know whats a little rude tho?
Ignoring asks, emails, and tweets asking about whats going on with the zine???

I only found out i have a week to finish my page and I only found out cause of the tweet about cutting people out of the book and the email that went out this week saying submissions were due??? out of nowhere??? after NOT GETTING AN EMAIL SINCE I WAS ACCEPTED???? like? fuck? its been MONTHS.

No. 603519

Yikes anon, that really sucks. Are you gonna keep participating? 'Cause at this point, it doesn't seem worth it.

No. 603522

I really don't want to after finding out how bad she is and about this drama associated with her. I had never heard of her before this zine and I only applied cause it was BNHA.
She said she will be paying us but how many cents am i actually going to get while she probably lies about how many copies sold and sells it at cons till the BNHA hype is all done? I feel used.

No. 603533

File: 1528318245454.bmp (2.5 MB, 855x1020, ha.bmp)

i mean both arent great but uh
at least these guys have normal sized necks and clothes that look good.

Holly is SO bad at character design. All her characters look so same-y

No. 603539

That fucking anatomy, oh my god.
This is going to be so bad, I'm shaking with excitement

No. 603547


The long haired character reminds me of Grell from Black Butler

No. 603551

I went to this thread immediately after she said that lmao how delusional can she be?

No. 603562

honestly, the other artist's style is not offensive. Not great, but okay.

No. 603566

I…kinda feel like this should be put on blast. That's really not okay at all.

No. 603636

She's comparing her art to this? It's laughable and not anywhere near similar.

One would hope one the zine is complete artists will come out with pros and cons of being part of it. If not outright obliterate her then at least warn others in the future to proceed with caution when working with Holly.

No. 603639

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No. 603677

Its sad that she sounds proud to call herself a fujo. It's really nothing to be proud of because its just plain disgusting.

No. 603691


Makes them seem more 'human' I guess, she's been doing it for a while I think and one of her followers does it on her videos and I don't know. I mean it's just a sounds so I want to say whatever but gross indeed.

No. 603695


So she finally admits it in this vid, then, after yrs of denying it?

No. 603700


Damn, the guy that is chained up looks like he's smuggling a lit spliff inside his arm pit.

also where are his shoulders

No. 603702

ive read the first comic until a few months ago and its honestly not bad and i really like the art, even if it has its flaws. holly's is nothing in comparison, what the hell is she on?

No. 603713

Idk if it’s showing up for other people but I guess she deleted her new vlog video before I could watch it. Could anyone give us a breakdown of some of the shit she said?

No. 603717


She was basically:

>justifying why she 'has to' make smut for money, using Lucid's patreon and comic as a reference

>shits on people who have to work part time instead of making art by basically implying that she works harder than someone who has a part time job

>literally says her art is comparable to Lucids, and then shows their art vs hers (and it literally was a stark difference)

>discusses her weight loss situation

i forget what else but that's what I can remember, any other anons can add on to it.

No. 603721

I wonder why she deleted it? Did she realize how pretentious she sounds comparing herself to Lucid? Or was it since she mentioned she wasn't showing anymore NSFW comic stuff on youtube since she was gonna put it behind a paywall, and just wanted to get rid of that page we've been making fun of?

No. 603727


Probably both, tbh, maybe she realized how bad she stepped in it, esp. with the Lucid thing. She really has her head that far up her ass that she'd say that.
Reminder that she doesn't care about art, just that she wants money because she thinks NSFW= instant money.
But like, you can make money from a SFW story just as much, but either way it has to be good and…none of her stories are really any good.

No. 603728

No. 603729


Fucking BLESS

No. 603761


Wise to keep track of everything she uploads, maybe she'll think twice about what she says while she's vlogging. I still can't believe she thinks she'll get to 10K like lucid within the rest of this year or the next or even the year after that.

No. 603823

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Whining as always over her own stupidity. She didn't 'just'say she looked up to Lucid's art, she showed outright how arrogant and greedy she was thinking she could make thousands from a porn comic like one of her idols does. An idol who I'm sure takes their work more seriously than Holly actually does.

No. 603835

Hey I know we’re losing our shit over the NSFW comic and the Lucid comic but yo…

What the fuck ever happened to Clever Kitchen? There hasn’t been an update on the Tumblr since April 13th and didn’t she say she was gonna make an update video cuz she had “a lot to show us”? What happened to that?

Like I really think she’s just gonna do a comic or something for her thesis, procrastinating like this is so bad and for an eight minute film??? She’s got a big storm coming.

No. 603836

Of course you're going to get called out when you try to compare your basic bitch smut and lack of anatomy to somebody who knows what the fuck they're doing and actually cares about the medium. And then to say that the only reason Lucid makes more money is because she has 400 pages of comics out…
What did she ever expect would happen? That people would give her asspats and be like "oh yes lord Holly you're so good"? Bragging about something you don't have gets you nowhere.

No. 603838

Everyone is kind of overreacting to Holly on this one.

She did compare her artwork to Lucid's and say she thought their skill level is similar. Obviously we can all disagree with that, but…

We have all probably looked at an artist making decent wages and thought "I could do that too, my art is fairly similar (or better)."

I know I'm guilty of that, and I don't mean anything malicious when I say it. I don't even know if it is true or not, but I say or think it anyway.

So I'm not going to demonize her for that.

Also, I'm still mildly surprised she is financially supporting an artist that isn't herself. She said she gives 15 a month to Lucid. She said she admired her, and liked her work, and all of that.

She even bought some of her merch, which is more than I can say about any artist I've ever thought similar things about.

And she also told everyone to go check her out because she's awesome.

So, she wasn't shitting on Lucid the way she normally shits on people, and I think on this one, people might be overreacting.

Just my opinion though.

No. 603840

I get it, i think that everytime i see baylees/hollys artwork. But i normally dont write that out, especially using my real name. She posted a video about it. We all do it, sure, but its stupid to film yourself doing it. Especially when hollys work is sooo beneath the other artists skill. I dont even know the other artist but comparing both of their work is laughable

No. 603853

I see your point that most of us wouldn't say it in a public space or in a vlog.

Holly is very tactless, but I still think over all her message was that she thinks Lucid is a great artist, works hard to get the recognition, and the financial support each month, and that she wants to be like her.

We all know Holly's work ethic, and the fact she has been stagnating, and it is comical to think, but I'm just glad to see she isn't so up her own ass that she won't financially support another artist she likes.

But yeah, she is tactless. And the whole vlog would have been a lot better without her saying that she thinks her skill set is the same.

No. 603855


Isn't that the reason we're here though, to give her grief and shit on her? I get what you're saying I think it's just kinda lost on this crowd.

I sincerely do hope she can find the thing that works for her and if it ends up being Patreon that's good, but if she doesn't see an instant influx of patrons I think she'll just throw it away like everything else that's not a cash cow. Like Purgatory, the rest of that tweet says she threw it away because it wasn't making her money anymore.

Also, nitpick but the way she say's the books name pisses me off.

No. 603856

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same, hersch

No. 603868


I can agree. She's way too quick to dump projects to start new ones. I think she should own up to the fact that she's really just throwing different things at a wall to see what sticks, because she's not really into building a strong foundation for success.

she's basing her success on the supposition that if she does what she thinks makes money, she'll have that instant gratification she's always craving…

Making NSFW comics does not just translate into making $10k, especially if it's not particularly interesting nsfw. ('interesting' and 'good' are separate things. People buy/support shitty nsfw art all the time because it interests them).

Holly does not make interesting work. She's more of an 'ideas' person, and those ideas may interest people, but she lacks the discipline to carry out those ideas and bring them into their fullest potential, because of her addiction to the instant gratification of money. It gets in the way of her taking the time to improve her art, or to make it interesting.

And the worst thing about it is the feedback loop she's in with her followers who give her asspats, she wouldn't consider any other criticisms. followers don't translate into money, necessarily, either…

Sage for long blurb…

No. 603870


I guess that isn't why I'm here. I'm here to watch her get called out for things she deserves to be called out on. Like what you just said about her not seeing an instant influx she'll jut throw it away like everything else.

She will likely do that. History has proven that.

And if all her projects are simply to make money, she will never finish anything, and if you never finish anything you'll never make money so… she's just going to be in a constant loop of disappointment and failure probably!

No. 603872


Exactly, yes some people are harsh I agree, but it's because she's constantly doing this sort of thing and it frustrates everyone.

I'll be honest, as mean as I am about her I want her to succeed somehow, to understand that people who give criticism aren't bashing her. If she'll just take some tips be it for youtube, Patreon or her art she'd improve.

Sadly she's too interested in being right and if she takes that criticism that her fans say she shouldn't because she explains it as bashing her, she'll be a hypocrite, which she already is, but I suppose she doesn't want to have another reason to be one.

No. 603874

I feel like a lot of her her projects, Purgatory especially, don't fulfill her anymore. Like, it's ok to drop projects or put them on hiatus. The important thing is to just be honest with yourself, and I think the whole time she just wanted to make smut and it's probably where she should've started off, realistically speaking. Like, it's okay your motive to art is money, tbh. It's just she shoulda been honest from the jump and stopped posturing.

She also contradicts herself in her vlog, saying she likes to put tons of detail in her comics, but then later on she says 'you have to sacrifice some things to just get your project done' but like…In all honesty she's working slower by splitting herself in so many directions trying to chance that next dollar.

No. 603876


she's going on about "if you're worried about making a comic with perfect art, its gonna take 10 years to make where i'll only spend 2 years"

yeah, it'd take 10 years if they were working with YOUR level of skill to make a comic with "perfect art"

actual, talented, skilled professionals can pump out art with 10x better quality at the same pace or even faster than you, so stop trying to justify your mediocre art, BRown

No. 603884

She's always putting her foot in her mouth.
It wasn't enough for her to just say "Hey, I really like Lucid's comics and art. They inspire me to work towards that same kind of goal."
It wasn't enough for her to genuinely just shout another artist out, she had to make it about herself and how she stacks up.
She had to outright claim she was on the same level and the only thing Lucid had on her was the quantity of pages.
But she totally misses the boat on any of her stuff being good or interesting. And she'd be at about that many pages of any one of her comics if she wasn't doing 8 other things and constantly posting everywhere ABOUT how she's doing said thing. And even then, the kind of money she'd be looking to make still wouldn't be a guarantee.

See, this is why almost no one with any substantial clout or sway wants to interact with her. She's in an echo chamber so she has no frame of reference for tact.

No. 603906

This. I mean the most basic thing she could do is make her character designs interesting, but she fails even on that. All of her characters are basically chins with drab palette swaps and small detail tweaks. Every single one has the same stupid DreamWorks face, with drab colour schemes and hair flips. The only reason people find acne cutter boy interesting because it's a slight departure from her normal character template. His design isn't good by any means, but it's a bit different. Her art isn't eye catching and her characters are very boring and unappealing. She's already failing step one.

Shitty art can be saved by a good story - just look at that webcomic "Not a Villain," it had HORRIBLE art in the beginning. But the story drew people in. Holly isn't a good or consistent storyteller so no one cares about her stuff. Couldn't tell you what Purgatory was about and Paranormal or whatever has like 5 pages that she hyped to death and gave up (but is still trying to cash in on it with these shitty porn comics).

No. 604002

>"Your jaw line is what makes you look beautiful"

Guess that explains the weird jaws, didn't even know jaw fetishes were a thing.

No. 604066

Instead of posting page by page, it could be more effective to post a full chapter at a time, preferably in grayscale. However, that would mean long periods of time without receiving attention, and since Holly posts impulsively I don't think she can do it

No. 604094

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This is what she did for the zine?

No. 604119


The anatomy is decent, compared to her older stuff

No. 604153

File: 1528379852829.png (26.19 KB, 112x112, 3.0.png)

now if only it would stay consistent across all her projects

No. 604192

The anatomy on the right one is still a bit wonky. Still better than her usual stuff.

I hate the one im the center. Why doesnt she realize that all that pointless detail makes the picture look really busy and distracting?

No. 604193

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Screenshot from the video she posted on twitter. The way she draws clothes and folds frustrates me, wtf is that line going down his right leg?

No. 604278

Plus details accentuate how wonky the perspective is.

No. 604320

The faces actually look okay at this angle, shows you how long and warped they must be in reality.

No. 604398


No. 604506

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I know it's from an old video, but… it gave me nightmares

No. 604549

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Thats so fugly

No. 604560


This is pure laziness, she should go ahead and make it full color or black and white. Also, how are those legs bound, the ankles should be touching, right? Probably was poked at before but still, it annoys me. And owies? Really Holly?

No. 604591

The proportion is improving but perspective is still nowhere to be found

No. 604618

what kind of boat is this guy driving that he can comfortably stick a ~big beefy man~ in the trunk without having to fold up completely?

she draws what she thinks she knows instead of what she sees. it's super obvious that all her pose books are more for a quick glance than an actual reference.

No. 604634

that bendy, curved ankle, yikes

No. 604767

Holly uploaded a new vlog, but for some reason I can't post the link in the youtube field, so I'll leave it here

No. 604787

she says she's not bothered , btu why make half the video ranting about .

No. 604789

Because she's that full of shit

No. 604801

Her teasing of her NSFW stuff is incredibly annoying and childish, 'ohhh I can't show you these'
'wish I cold compare two pieces of paper but one has porn on it teehee'
ugh, shut up about it then Holly, pretty sure no one wants to see it anyways.

No. 604823

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Got something for you guys lol

No. 604836


No. 604841

has she even looked at a dick before? would it kill her to look at a reference?

No. 604843


Oh my god it's like a friggin wrinkly slim jim!
Ugh, chirst. Everything is NO here, the dick, how it's attached, the pubic hair and goddamn paw hand, c'mon holly, hands can be incredibly erotic when drawn right.

No. 604849

I'm guessing she was looking at a drawing(possibly stylized)or didn't bother looking at a reference. I get that looking at penis references can be uncomfortable, but she should of considered that when making her sad excuse for porn.

No. 604850

This honestly looks so creepy. If Holly thinks people would get off to this, and buy it for that reason, then she's delusional.

No. 604854

In her vlog she says she's not sure if she can compare herself to Baylee Jae but she can compare herself to Lucid?
Is she trying to say Baylee is better than Lucid?
More likely she's probably trying to says she thinks she's better than Baylee but wont' admit it.

No. 604855

She said that it's rude that some people didnt complete their art for the zine in time, but she hasnt finished her own art for it anyway?

No. 604856

I can't wait to see the actual fucking, this is going to be glorious

No. 604861

at least look at medical ref of penises if you're uncomfortable with looking at photos…and where are his balls lol
yes! I can't believe she was bitching at her artists and she only finished her zine lineart today wtf

No. 604884

The idea that someone is drawing m/m porn and uncomfortable with irl penis ref is so laughable

No. 604885

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a few more snippets, can't show much but it's a real hoot. There's a whip.

No. 604886

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No. 604892

>"People can't tell that I'm traditionally inking my pages now! Lol! They'd have to look really hard to figure it out!"
>Those fucking glasses and every other chunky line in that mess
Wow Holly you're right, definitely can't tell at all!

No. 604894

Could she have made the character not have fish gills? I get she wants to be more "realistic" with beauty standards by having a guy with acne, but that shits gross when you're doing a porn lol like they don't cast people with gross skin because it's to get you off not have you distracted by the blemishes on their face

why she do this

No. 604903

why is he drooling lol the hilarious thing about fujos is they have such a childish view on sex. not every 18+ has to be fluffy, but if you don't have some realistic emotion between the two characters it just becomes funny or cringy, not hot

No. 604908

The longer u look at it the more fuked Up stuff u see..

No. 604909

pinkie up like he's drinking a cup of tea

No. 604911

Adut Megaxx? I may be a dumbass but tf is that supposed to be

No. 604917

I think it's supposed to be like "Adult Megastore XXX" but our art god Holly BRown has no fucking clue what she means yet again.

No. 604970

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anyone got a reupload of this vlog she posted yesterday or did she delete too fast

No. 604973

Its here anon

No. 604978

Oh didn’t see that thanks

No. 604985

Oh my god I can’t believe she’s doing it.
In the previous vlog she creamed her pants over saspie’s works because it was insane that her pages were traditional while looking digital, and now she’s saying she has this skill and basically everybody is amazed by it? Fucking who?
Also quick note: this shows how much of an amateur eye Holly has, since saspie is fully capable of working both ways but CHOOSES to use traditional because of the feel it gives to the lines, I mean a clean line work doesn’t equate to digital but in holly’s Mind that’s it.
It bothers me that right after discovering that artist she jumps back on doing traditional and wants to make a video about it like she discovered some huge secret or something. Her inking is so bad, dear god. At least try and learn to do some things properly before wanting to teach others. Is that so hard to understand?
But of course she must have some problems with her eyes or some delusions because she STILL thinks she would get “the same grades” of Lucid if it was about school and she still thinks they are at the same level. I don’t even like lucid but compared to Holly they’re fucking Michelangelo.
And oh wow who would have thought that smooth paper was best for inking? Mmmm yeah you’re totally a genius, go girl.

No. 604989


LMAO is that a fucking rubber chicken, why the fuck is it wrinkly? Why is he pulling it omg it's 100% flaccid, my fuckin sides.

No. 605014

I’d be hella pissed if I rushed to make a submission in time and then the book would be delayed because SHE didn’t make her pieces in time.

No. 605016


I wish so bad that would happen, thay would be means for anyone to put put a video about her.

No. 605067

Kek I can't even tell if those are veins or the stretched forskin. Do you think she even knows the difference between penises that have it and don't? My bet is that she's never seen a real one and so she's just trying to make it up as she goes along since japan isn't allowed to put uncensored dicks in their porn

No. 605135

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New version of sticker sheet from her newest vlog.
>"More ballsy with colors.."
>"Spread out legs to give definition to vag."
>"anatomy makes more sense" for the sliced up and cut in half girl
>"neck of decapitated girl use to be too thick"

No. 605136

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Old sheet

No. 605137

She made the green one soooo much worse… and I think she says thats the one shes most happy with.

No. 605139

Argh why doesnt she use construction lines???? Those eyes dont match, everything is wrong

No. 605140

Ha. The whole narrative, while she was showing these, was about spending more time on the sketch than on the lineart to get the proportions of everything right, and she was using the new version as an example of how that benefits your art… yikes.

No. 605163

Look at all the improvement she's made in a year guys

No. 605188


Holly really doesn't like women, lmao. Like, in context, all she really cares about is her shitty fujo yaoi obsession and then when she draws women they're almost always either a self insert or depicted like this, all chopped up. I know guro is a thing or w/e but there's something about the things she draws as a whole that says more about her than she thinks.

Or maybe it's just me.

No. 605191

That's regression if ever I've seen it

No. 605195


yeah i can agree w/that I mean she has said on multiple occasions that she doesn't really identify with other women.

She sure as shit doesn't do enough deliberate practice drawing either sex, so…

Still shitty art.

No. 605199


She doesn't even so guro right, it's supposed to be 'aesthetic', what she's done isn't even decent gore, it's cringy emo vent art at best.
And really, cat ears? Looks stupid enough without them.

No. 605213

>"anatomy makes more sense" for the sliced up and cut in half girl
>That collarbone goes right through the middle of her chest.
I'm not sure even grinding fundies non-stop would help her at this point.

No. 605215

What kills me is thay she didnt skwtch these out. She got the original, put a piece of paper over it, and "inked correctly" through a light box. There was no sketching.

No. 605221

Maybe that's why the bottom half of the green one looks like a 9-year-old drew it. Cause if that is true she went freehand on that part. This baffles me. I can understand her looking at her art and thinking it's decent art (not that it is. Just that she's in her own bubble and her tastes haven't developed or something.) but how can she compare these two and not realize she's regressed?

No. 605225

Can someone explain these boobs to me? In the original, it looks like they were skinned beneath the nipple? But in the new one, it looks like it some random ass style of shading that makes no sense and isn't consistent with the cell shading on the rest of the body.

No. 605287

How is it possible to get so much worse after practice? She’s a warning to all artists to practice smart, not hard.

No. 605296

Well if you train your mistakes into your style by "working hard" that is what you get…

No. 605297

>wants to draw porn to be edgy and ~sooo adult 18+ no minors allowed lol~
>is still too immature to NOT put "owies" on the cover of her "professional" comic

One more question….. where is Reese's left hand?

No. 605317

Watching Holly's recent vlogs, seeing as she tries so hard to hype up her nsfw comic with comments like 'teehee there is nsfw right under my hand but I won't show it. Go to my patreon!' is just kinda pathetic and desperate.

No. 605325

I can't believe she had no idea that smooth was good for ink, has she been using watercolor paper or something? How do you not know what bristol board is when you both used ink for years AND worked at Micheals?
And that same grade thing is stupid, that's like saying "If I were in school with Da Vinci, we would both get similar grades!" Like, bitch, that's the exact same thing as saying you're just as good as them! Are you a moron?

No. 605449

Can someone explain why she redid her colors pages to black and white? I get moving forwards she’d want to do b&w but the ones already in color could just be left alone, no? Almost as an establishing color scheme and then b&w. I’ve read b&w comics before which had color pages or inserts or whatever. She just gave herself more unnecessary work, no?

No. 605452

It's because Holly likes doing extra work for no reason at all.

No. 605470

Yep, and Holly also seems to think that if you spend a looong time doing something, it automatically means that now you're good at it, even if you're just bullshitting your way through it.

No. 605676

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what do you guys think of this ?

No. 605688

Lmaooo what a big hypocrite. She literally made a video bitching/crying about people pointing out her mistakes. She explodes whenever someone calls her out on shit. The teacher is not there to shame you, girl. I had a hard ass teacher too who was very blunt, but they always mean well (in most cases). Holly trying to look tough on the outside, but weak af on the inside

No. 605690

1. Holly i think that your art teacher wasnt bitching but was mad that your studies are so stilized to the point that you are learning nothing lol

2. Being nice in your critiques can be helpfull, just dont sugar coat it

3. LMAO IS SHE STUPID? LOL like… look in a mirror

No. 605701

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so im pretty sure this guy's tweet thread is the one that started it

No. 605703

No. 605708

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Two posts from that thread

No. 605710


Most of them say that, she's the loudest artist who talks like she knows everything and is an ass about it, of course people draw this conclusion.

No. 605716

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One more, someone linked her artist mistakes video in the thread. This comment was too funny not to post

No. 605717

>accepting mistakes and being less direct will only mean he is wasting my time
Of course, knowing that you do and will always have something to improve on in art is healthy and vital to learning, but "accepting mistakes" stops people from spiraling and resigning themselves to failure just because they aren't god-tier within five months of drawing. The "my art is fucking garbage"/"I genuinely hate my art" way of thinking is such a plague and stunts so many people's growth. I hate that she's propagating it further to an audience of really young artists.

Holly is so frustrating to watch, cause you can definitely see how she punishes herself with this "failure is unacceptable" attitude (even if it doesn't reflect her output) when it's crippling her actual ability to draw when she refuses to experiment and thinks there's only one path to success or skill.

No. 605723

Kind of random, but does anyone notice how reese sort of looks like Deidara? I know that BRown isn't as ass deep into Naruto as she is Full Metal Alchemist but its just weird how a lot of her characters look like references to anime she likes (the forearm kid from CK looks like Edward, Reese looks like a fish version of Deidara, etc) or maybe I'm just reaching

No. 605734

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How did her art get so bad?? How can she look at her new shit and think it's an improvement, I'm just dumbfounded.

No. 605736


oh the new stuff is atrocious but… lets not pretend that the image on the left is any good

No. 605743

I actually liked her old art, but yeah I figured everyone here would just rip on her no matter what. Her anatomy and perspective has always been off, but there's something about how she draws now that I can't fucking stand.

No. 605744

Theres no personality in her new art. She seems to jump from new project to the next that making art just seems like a drag for her and is only a solution to making money rather than enjoying it.

No. 605745

God to think we used to complain about her old chins. What naive fools we were.

No. 605748

File: 1528522042287.png (162.51 KB, 469x280, necks.png)

I thought her style like 3 years ago was okay but now shes a bitter asshole so i just can't stand her. Plus look at some of the necks on these characters
why are they SO LOOOOOOOOOONG?

No. 605752

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seriously this is starting to mess with me, does something about her output squish images?

No. 605756

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i had to know…

No. 605769


I'm glad I wasn't the only one seeing it!

She has anime influences. It's not a bad thing, but she seems to…try and hide it? It's why the hair flips look so bad. Anime can make them work. She cannot

No. 605780

Is there some way of her holding her tablet that could cause something like this? I've heard of lean due to holding your paper flat on a table, but that doesn't cause the whole thing to stretch like that…

No. 605795

I think it's actually possible if her monitor settings are fucked up. I used to have a similar problem when I first started with digital. That being said she has the same issues on traditional art too.

No. 605925

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>>605734 yeah i also liked her older stuff, it had obvious mistakes but atleast it was interesting, i could get over them and enjoy some of her suff.

Also i know that this is a personal opinion but how the fuck is the second one more fuckable? he looks like he goes to the gym but is scared of mouses

and … what a tangent holly kek

No. 605962

I'm not sure why Holly is regressing in talent and style. I thought for a bit she was getting better, but seeing her older art…. it's like she doesn't give a shit because she let her small popularity get to her head
"I don't have to work hard, I'm edgy and popular fuck you guys. Have shit"

No. 605971

There is something horribly wrong with that dick. Oh my lord.
… That chin beats out the Kaiba memes

No. 605994

Holly is a big example of what not to do , with art and on youtube in general.The only quality her follower who i'm sure are in there "edgy " phases is that she'll have the "unpopular opinion" or have an "edgy" outlook.When really when you hear what she thinks she sounds so unsure and insecure. Especially in her vlogs as well as i've noticed as well. She's following what would be the most edgy thing to do without actually knowing about what she's talking about .It's really telling of her personality as we've seen so far.

No. 606380

File: 1528589112755.png (414.95 KB, 600x600, holly brown's layers of vagina…)

I still can't get over that vagina armpit

No. 606530

I can't get over how bad this palette is. I was looking at my submission to the zine again. 0 contrast, I set it to grayscale and ug…

"Let Holly Shit on Your Art: A Zine"

Oh well, the videos have been worth it. I seriously can't believe she's had basically zero contact with the artists. I've literally not talked to her once at this point, let alone a contract. I might end up cleaning this up as a print (i.e. change the palette) and selling it at cons.

I'm thankful she only plans to sell 500 (how does she plan on printing that many and assembling them by herself??), I don't exactly want to be known for my part in this.

I'm excited to see the payment shitstorm either way, will you all posted.

Sage for blogging/no new milk.

No. 606542


The real tragedy here is that she was too lazy/scared to make a discord for the zine, that would've been so fuckin' milky. But she just really wants to be as hands-off as possible. Handling art submissions from 100+ artists to assemble 500 copies of a for-profit zine clearly isn't a priority to her.

No. 606548

I noticed holly will take interest in a thing, and then try it out, call herself a pro, and I get the feeling she reads this forum, and when she figures out she fucks up, she quietly brushes it under the rug and hopes people forget, like what she did with animation and then storyboarding and now the zine pretty much. Her only constant is comics, and even then she's never finished any of those projects. That's a red flag.

No. 606623

I can't believe we're 7 threads deep on this cow

No. 606647

She's the gift that keeps on giving and always will until she learns how to take critisism properly. When she finally learns how to ignore the 'haters' and stops putting her foot in her mouth it will allow us rest but for now and the foreseeable future she will remain a cow.
Honestly I'm surprised she's not had all too much to say about thay vague tweet. One would think she'd vlog a response to something like that.

No. 606705

I can’t believe it’s been 7 threads and she hasn’t changed at all.
Most cows at least go through a renewal phase when the hate gets to them or their reputation is shattered, holly just keeps going without change or improvement.
It’s like we’re documenting a spiral of what art school does to autism

No. 606882


Only she's never actually attended an art school. That HAD to have been a blow to her ego. I think it contributes to a lot of why she's so bitter and hateful all the time.

No. 606910

I know that chick has some kind of odd sexuality thing going on (fujoshit yet might be gay or something?) but I can hardly imagine a worse person doing a porn comic because there's no way in hell she understands what makes something erotic. She thinks sexual content=erotic. I know it's a 'doujin' and the only porn she's ever seen has probably been doujins, but she obviously has no clue on how to make something sexy. I'm not an artist or a fujoshit but a dude suckin a dick in itself isn't sexy, maybe use facial expressions and body language to convey one characters desire for another, overwhelming lust, especially on the tied up guy, his conflict, not wanting to like it but confused that he is, frightened of his own response and desire, sweating, writhing, anything. Instead hey're so stiff it looks almost painful.

She's like the least sexy person on the planet, probably thinks 'they're dudes banging so it's hot right?'

No. 606914

I can't even imagine Holly going to art school (or ANY school, for that matter), having to take criticism for her work and her "b-b-but I did the sketchbook slam!! 20 pages a day for a month!!!" excuses not sliding….

No. 606944


she'd bitch and moan about how hard she works all the time and would probably shit talk a lot of her class mates

No. 606962

I think you're spot on, anon, she doesn't seem to have the capability, writing or art wise, for porn.

With what we've seen of her writing in stuff like Purgatory, she has little to no ability to show emotion in her characters beyond annoyance or aggravation, even during really tense scenes (like when Simon got attacked by the teacher, he looked mildly upset and that was it, or when Simon's dad found out Simon was gay, it was very nonchalant). Not to mention, her art is so stiff in general that I couldn't imagine her trying to do something as complicated as using microexpressions or actual body language without text, which I always thought was the largest part of the actual 'porn' part of doujins (since text keeps the reader from looking at the actual wank material).

There's no way this WON'T be a train wreck.

No. 606972

I feel that she thinks showing uncensored dicks means her doujin is like 100 times better for some reason. Like dude, sure jp and kr porn is censored, but they still manage to make there sex scenes look like… sex scenes. From the panels I've seen, Holly dear, it looks like you don't know what looks arousing and just straight up gross.

saged for ranting

No. 606980

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>you don't know what looks arousing and just straight up gross

Seriously, look at this >>604885 it is fucking grotesque. It actually looks like it's meant to repulse the reader.

I'm somehow anticipating this train wreck and really terrified at the same time.

No. 607019

I'm constantly terrified at repeating Holly's mistakes though assiduous practice at drawing.
Sometimes I feel like practicing hard is just setting me up for failure because I'll end up disinterested and disgusted with art. Holly just made that fear much more real.

sage for OT but if I want to stay on the subject : why all her male characters look like they're wearing eyeliner??

No. 607028

holy shit, anon, i feel the same exact way. i don't wanna end up hating art and only seeing it as a ticket for quick money. Her mentality is one of many things keeping her from improving, unlike many of the great artists she shits on, who managed to have a positive view on art hhhh

No. 607054


I have the same issue. I know if I started drawing comics, they'd end up the same or worse as holly's. The thing is, you have to mess up in order to improve. If you never make and learn from mistakes, you never improve.

This is where holly struggles. She claims to be a professional yet does not learn. She makes beginner mistakes with a poor attitude to boot. As long as you are willing to make mistakes and take criticism, you probably won't end up like holly

saged for ot

No. 607127

Around the fourteen minute mark, looks like twisted is doing her first convention as Holly's table mate.

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No. 607167

Damn, wouldn't imagine being stuck with Holly like that. But I'm curious as to how that's going to go once the convention rolls around.

No. 607170


She seems to like Holly, admires her, actually be her friend somehow, who the fuck knows why but I know for sure that'll be one godawful looking table.
I've always got a morbid fascination with how hideous art gets so popular.

No. 607233


Her art is hideous, it's going to be a clusterfuck.
I sure as shit can't watch this vlog though because she keeps slapping everything and shaking her hand and waving the camera frantically and it's givin me motion sickness.

She's not as bad as holly, but her being friends with her says a lot.

No. 607365

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She does LGBT+ art for her tumblr friends. Isn’t Holly borderline alt right and anti-snowflakes?

No. 607383

I don't think Holly is legit borderline alt-right, she just likes to have the edgiest and controversial opinions so she's super special.
I think it's partial sympathy, Holly has near 0 legit good friends. Also, this disaster person could be latching on for a bit of fame. She doesn't have much milk herself save for her art being ugly.

No. 607387

File: 1528709183973.jpg (133.15 KB, 934x765, hands.jpg)

This is one of the zine participants. It's the only one so far that I think looks fuckin' good. Shame they will hardly get paid tho.

No. 607391

Wow! that's actually really nice, I'm eager to see the rest of the participants
It really is a shame for them to get deal with Holly tho, zines are supposed to be fun

No. 607395

they actually made something really cool with those ugly colours holy shit.. gives me that 80s pop art vibe. I hope Holly fuckin pays them or they at least get something good out of this zine

No. 607401

I mean this whole thing is a shit show, and the artists are probably pissed and if they're not they should be. I'm wondering if Holly doesn't pay them or nothing good comes out of it, that's enough to have the artists drag her through the mud on twitter/tumblr and wreck her reputation(even more)

No. 607412

File: 1528711082466.jpg (390.85 KB, 1424x2047, poki.jpg)

yeah I'm surprised how good they made the colors look too ^. I've tried to look for more zine uploads, using the hashtag truecolorszine only six/seven results came up. Do you think they're all on tumblr or insta? You would think they'd be more. This artist did yaoi

No. 607413

Didn't someone post the drive before? I would assume the submissions are in there?

No. 607416

Ahhh that makes sense. And yeah, when they all get chum change divided by 150 to 200 people its going to be a joke.

No. 607420

File: 1528712008597.png (409.7 KB, 852x595, birdman.png)

I kinda like these.

No. 607422

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^ zine participant, as well as this one. Will it actually help with exposure, I kinda doubt it.

No. 607423

I just realized they're all in different sizes as well.

No. 607425


Not to be rude but all these submissions look mad generic. I mean I guess they are better than Holly's stuff but that's a really low bar to pass.

I'm kind of happy they are all different sizes. That means Holly is going to actually have to put in some work before she can screw everyone over and steal the profits.

No. 607426

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Another zine partcipant.

No. 607429

File: 1528712750369.png (545.71 KB, 1141x602, lol.png)

MICHIE IS THE WORST. Let me break it down for you—

-Wants 10,000 dollars from strangers to fund her and Cody's wedding that they just can never seem to save up for.

So sad, but lets see what we see in this vlog in particular:

-Buys an airplane ticket to go to San Japan so she can sit next to good ol' Holly BRown (and probably sell nothing)
-Buys new "work glasses" (computer glasses?) because an eye doctor told her she has CVS (not the store)
-Needs to go shopping
-Preordered the Vampyir game or whatever (I dont have money for games, so I don't know what anything is) (PS, not good for that eye strain boo)
-Bought a few watercolor sketch books
-Bought an art book she HAS ALWAYS WANTED (IT WAS ON SALE GUYS, but please send me 10k for my wedding we deserve boohoo)
- Cody owns some vintage cars, one 77. He races. Why not sell one of your vintage cars so that you can pay for your own wedding? HM.

But at least their family is finally chipping in to help the wedding now that "they've seen completely random people care enough to donate".

But the gofundme will still be going until July, in case you guys want to chip in towards that 10k she needs for her wedding!!


UGH, point is, her and Holly are perfect friends.

No. 607431

I agree anon they do not stand out. Do you know when San Japan is?

No. 607433

In the drive, there is a pdf saying "Apparently google drive limited people who can upload to 50 people so click this link instead to
upload it to dropbox." The link is for uploading stuff only, so I suppose she fixed the possible leak.

No. 607434

Wow I had no idea Mitchie was like this. 10k for a wedding??? And you expect ppl just to give it to you??

She says she spends up to 4-12 hours working each day… doing what tho.

They do seem very alike tbh.

Yeah I think you're right anon can't get to the pdf rip.

No. 607435

She doesn't seem as bad as Holly. I mean other than the e-begging for wedding expenses none of these things seem particularly bad? Also, if she is doing commissions for the wedding money or something like that then none of these things are actually bad.

San Japan is a reasonable work expense since I'm assuming art is her main source of income.

Work glasses also seem like a reasonable work expense if she really does need to protect her eyes.

Shopping and the Vampyir game are meh but I mean its not wrong to buy a few nice things for yourself. Same with the art book and sketch books.

Honestly as long as she isn't guilt tripping viewers into paying for her wedding I don't see how this girl is a cow.

San Japan is 8/31-9/2

No. 607440


You obviously don't follow Michie enough if you think these things.

But she doesn't do commissions to fund the wedding, that is just to fund their regular expenses, and I doubt it's funding much, given how she farts around a lot, and they're living with her parents because they can't financially survive on their own right now. EVEN THOUGH Cody works.

Secondly I doubt San Japan is going to net her enough to make it worth the cost of going, and not working on her regular commissions.

Thirdly, a lot of people can't afford to just get work glasses. But she can afford to do that, while still begging for money.

Fourthly the Vampyir game was probably close to 80 bucks or something, that very well should have gone into a savings for a wedding you made a video CRYING AND SOBBING about, because it means SO much to you and you and your fiance just keep getting knocked down. Especially if you have the nerve to ask for 10k for a wedding.

Like just go get married at the court house, sorry.

And she absolutely does guilt trip, shit on people, and do other questionable things.

So really, in my book, she is definitely a cow.

She has even shit on people for NOT HAVING SAVINGS. And how shitty you are for that. Even one of her friends, she shit on.

While turning around and not having savings herself. And cry begging in a video that was kind of guilty.

I guess we're just going to disagree about this though!

PS: This is only what we know she has bought and spent through a few days of vlogging, but theres probably tons more.

And I've known a lot of poor people and none of them own their own vintage cars lol. And if I wanted to get married and have a 10k wedding SO BAD I'd be ready to sell a car before I asked people to fund it for me.

No. 607450


Anon, are you sure his car is an Aston Martin one 77?

The production run began in 2010 and the final car was delivered in August 2012.

Out of the 77 cars built, only nine are right-hand drive. With a broad palette of paint and trim colours, no two One-77s are alike, though options were limited to special metals for the switchgear: gold (£40,000), dark chrome (£30,000) or ruthenium (£15,000).

The original list price was £1.05 million plus local taxes, but this rose to £1.15m in 2011, which for a UK buyer meant £1.38m once the VAT was added. 


No. 607452

I'm not sure what his cars are. All he said was the one inside was a 77. And the one outside was a Cobra, but it was too dark to see it.

No. 607453

File: 1528715046193.jpg (240.66 KB, 1280x1600, zeen.jpg)

zine participant, wtf

No. 607454

It's all good anon, but you're right tho vintage cars go for a lot of money.

No. 607459

looks pretty alright? Why wtf?

No. 607461

the eyes look strange, idk might be just me

No. 607463

Huh didn't really know all this about Michie, does she have her own board?

I think that's part of the original character design.

No. 607465

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That's just how he looks. His design is pretty goofy.

No. 607503

They are different sizes, those are just crops of their finished pieces. There was a strict size template that we used.

No. 607525


kek knowing holly was it unnecessarily huge at 600dpi?

No. 607598

450dpi so not too outrageous.

We still don't know how pay works. That's half the reason my work isn't exactly inspired. It was a 30 minute piece because doing the math, I could only imagine $150 in a best case scenario.

No. 607656

Damn that would be good if not for Holly’s ugly color scheme.

No. 607671

Michie is annoying af watch her artist alley pet peeves video she gives me definite Holly vibes. Though I see her more as an annoying socially awkward Deviantart regular over Hollys all around arrogant stupidity.

No. 607717

Not going to lie, I really like this ones style. Does anybody know the artist so I can give them a follow?

No. 607731

Are you guys allowed to post full pieces already? I’ve been in a few zines before and we were strongly discouraged from posting anything except samples or WIPs well after preorders closed. I guess there’s no preorder period here, but I find it still odd.

No. 607752

doubt Holly cares

No. 607769

I was curious so I looked it up and wow are her and Holly perfect for each other kek. ‘Here’s a critique for artists that table but fyi I’ve never tabled but don’t worry I’ve been to cons and used google.’

No. 607777


It's probably best to put this info in the general youtube artist page. She's sadly not terribly milky to justify one of her own but she certainly has her downfalls, more than I realized.
She's definitely got a bigger ego than most when it comes to art. Check out her and her friend's commission and social media tips vids, in either one or both they're drooling over Holly saying she can do certain things because she's popular, it's definitely an issue now that I think about it.

No. 607783


God I can't stand her art….It's SO dopey. She seems to get brought up on Holly threads every so often, but I don't think she's milky enough to warrant her own thread. I've talked to her a few times and she's not really as insufferable as Holly is. Though, I can see why she'd be friends with her.
The only reason she's popular is because she runs with better artists/more popular ppl over on FA and DA.

Also, just to stay on topic about the Zine, I'm not sure if it'd make a difference if sharing the pieces or not would be right, because it isn't like the artists will be making any money off it anyhow. They should do what the participating anon here does and just retouch their art with actual good colors and sell it as a print separate from the zine. I really hope Holly gets shit for this mess she made, all just because she was jealous and mad she didn't get into an FMA zine.

No. 607790

TwistedDisaster's art is dopey looking but its leagues better than Holly's average stuff. I'm just sitting here waiting with popcorn for her to eventually turn on Holly and post a stupid rant video on Holly.

In fact I'm just waiting for the shit to hit the ceiling with the zine. There is surprisingly not a lot of rants about Holly outside of this forum.

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