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Most well known for her cal-arts rant, where she bitches about how hard it is to get in while claiming to have gotten in. Also known for giving shitty advice to impressionable beginners.https://www.youtube.com/user/hollyistotallycoolhttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgeEynuhGskPjgNR5DjbZmwhttps://www.instagram.com/h.c.brown/https://twitter.com/HCBrownart
Mirror of aforementioned Cal-Arts rant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvnD-9XOs5k
>21 year old "freelancer" (lives at home with her mother and runs an online shop selling ugly art)>Salty Youtube fujoshi artist that claims that her art is superior because she went to art school>Constantly preaches that art takes hard work, claims to always practice and study but her art hasn't improved in over two years>Whines about being a starving artist with no money, yet has enough money to buy a new Mac computer and a Cintiq tablet within the same week, then sold said cintiq because she got sponsored for her shitty shitty art>When faced with genuine criticism, she replies with "it's my style hurrr get over it!!">Whines about nobody buying from her online store, but when people do, she whines about having to package and ship off her items >Pandering to the Musicals crowd to get more Youtube $$$>Claims to be the only non tumblrina artist and is a textbook tumblr fujo>Generally insufferable and shitty person
In the previous thread:>Animating without knowing the fucking basics and continuously shitting on well established pros (Disney, Pixar, Egoraptor, Butch Hartman)>Holly contradicts her own shitty art opinions by not following through with them>Starts her own MHA/BNHA zine after being rejected from an FMA zine with over 100 contributors. Profits being split 100 ways.>Constantly making new projects when she hasn't even finished one of them yet>Makes fun of styles that have more life than anything she's very produced>Plans to table at SanJapan this fall (farmers, report back)
Ikr? All of the styles she showcased were better than her own, and I think that's super telling about how she views her own work. Honestly, the fact that she also thinks her style is comparable to the likes of FMA and NGE shows that there's some sort of delusion or blindness going on that can't be healthy for her artwork.
I think Holly needs to do one of those art vacations where you just don't draw for a while, like a week or month or so, in order to get a fresh look at how hideous her work has become over the years.
holly is literally the first person i think of when i read Bad Tumblr Art lmao
to her credit, she does mention it and her opinions are quite agreeable imo, but once again due to her prescription retard vision goggles she fails to emulate the styles she's shit talking to an acceptable level anyway.
SO as usual her hypocrisy is meme-tier as she's fuckin.. sitting there tweeting about how hard she works and how much of a professional she is and these tumblr autists (who a lot of the time are minors or hobbyists) have linework/composition/character design 50x better than hers. Would honestly be a decent video if she didn't try to draw examples and just did that self aware shit she do and rip on her own art
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Pretty sure she will bend the rules and fail the challenge. It’s going to be rich, she has no idea what this thing really is. I wish I could open her a new butthole about this.
BTW I’m kinda disappointed in the op pic, I wanted the bingo. Also I think she’s 22 now. let’s bring it up here too, please, it’s to precious to let it die.
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she do be doing dat
Should have made the thread then with your own pic. everyone was flooding the last thread with nonsense and not making a whole new thread, so it was either hurry and make this thread or have the last thread locked without a new one.>>580174
she was bitching about "hourly" comics, which is when the artists draw what they did for that hour. 24 hour comics is when you draw 24 pages of comics in 24 hours. which is crazy for Holly. she has the work ethic but clearly not the speed to make it happen
Please. She doesn’t have ethic, she just pretends to be devoted to what she does. The reason she dropped the 100days OF making comic is because she couldn’t stick to a schedule or just slow down to one/two hours of work per day.
I’m pretty sure she takes so long to draw pages because, in addition to her being slow as fuck, she probably took infinite amount of breaks to fuck around.
There’s no way she could make it but I admit I’d love to see her try and fail miserably.
Also I’m the anon who contested the op pic. That bingo pic wasn’t mine and I don’t know how to create/manage thread so I’m glad you did it, but it wasn’t meant to be an insult to you or your AESTHETICS (imagine that read in holly’s Voice). We’re cool, dude :)
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You right. Also, side note, I love how in the description of her ~*professional*~ website it has all those godawful file names she didn’t bother to change. Such a great online presence BRown.
You see, it's not even that she deals with controversial topics. It's just her attitude and her incapability of not being rude/offensive while talking about others.
If she really wanted to work in the industry she should have avoided shitting on everybody who ever lived, and attacking/CORRECTING professionals.
She can delete everything she wants, but what will ultimately fuck up her chances of being hired is how sloppy she is, how she refuses to go back to fundaments and her non existent social skills.
Industry work is mostly networking, the rest is being able to communicate and cooperate. She doesn't have any of these "skills". I mean, they could be easily achieved, but she doesn't want to because she's too attached to her bitchy internet persona.
Guess what: nobody wants to work with an angry, frustrated, lacking self awareness brat.
And it's not like she's being controversial in a spontaneous way. She always does researches on what pisses people off so that she can make a video out of it. She ALWAYS tweets about "this will receive so many hate comments, lol" and stuff like that.
thing is: if you KNOW it's going to be a shitshow, just don't do it. I can understand not being able to shut up for a couple issues, but digging in the dirt just for views and then expected to be taken seriously as a professional is another thing.
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Nice job trying to copy khantaya's bakugou, Holly BRown.
Nah, the arms and hands don't work, but I do think she traced certain elements, which is why it looks ten times as lifeless. I guess she figured Khan doesn't have quite the following she does, and the picture is old enough that she could just ape it for herself. If she ends up finishing it, I hope she gets called on her shit.
And if she ends up not finishing it/deleting the post, she'd be just as guilty because it's here now.
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I thought it was fitting that tweet deleter was a suggested follow on Holly's tweeter
Wow, that sucks. Personally I'd rather watch paint dry than look at her work. She has zero passion or feeling in all of her pieces, there's no substance in anything that she does.
You can say what you want about people with those types of styles, at least most of them actually love and put meaning into what they do. Holly is a boring, bitter bitch with no personality and it shows into every fucking thing she does
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Sorry it bothers you so much that I kind of
like her art style for some of her older male characters. Never said she has any passion or substance, or that people of other styles don't have love or meaning in their work. I don't like Holly or what she does other than cringing. Jesus, anon.
I don't really like her art, just some characters. I don't care about anything else with her art other than anons pointing out flaws. Not upset that anon disagreed, just surprised at the reaction like I was WKing Holly or something.>>582006
Now that I re-read it I don't really know either. Guess I had it on my mind and just felt like posting it.
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And yet you both just participated by contributing absolutely nothing.
In other news, Holly is a ~*comedy*~ ~*queen*~
You're on a hate forum, what do you expect? Also OP said they saged so what is you problem anyways?>>582216
People just listen to her dumb videos because they don't want to blind themselves with her awful art.
You might want to watch that talk again anon. We're talking about concept art a totally different thing Holly's attempting. 'Concept' art that's really what it is, their job description is more about creating ideas and concepts, but its got to be fast and bloody efficient so they use photo-bashing because it would take fucking months to digitally paint that many designs. Mind you, concept art is usually used for video game designs, concepts for films and also storyboarding. You might think its shitty but concept artists play a big role in the industry, I wouldn't knock it, and it's fucking HARD to get into. As for illustration and animation, they're also two different fields and there's still a lot of traditional illustration. Animation is going more 3D but this is nothing new.
Clearly they do this for efficiency and got into the job from their skills however Holly doesn't know her fundamentals at all and she isn't trying to be a 'concept artist'. What even is she.
saged for ot blogpost
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what holly's doing is nothing like photobashing. photobashing is like pic related - ugly as sin, but it gets the job done, and can be passed on later in the line to be refined and turned into models/finalised """concept""" art (really just promo art), etc.
obviously different styles of games have different styles of concepting - the more cartoony the more likely the figures will be drawn mostly from scratch.
saged for sperging about concept art.
You clearly don't know much about concept art if you're comparing that style of production of artwork to holly.
He's just giving a brief of what goes on and doesn't go too into depth of just how much skill is truly needed to create believable concepts,
and it doesn't mean your art is shitty for using references of other art or tracing over 3d rendered models that they've created so that the drawn concept is even more believable
Please don't compare holly's shit to a legitamatr style of art that she doesn't even draw in. She does comics not concept work epically not at a professional level
Sageing for bitchy-ness but fuck, concept art isn't lazy for using the tools accessible to them so that they can convey an idea so that production can take place
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I gotta disagree, I think these shortcuts are lazy in any field and ultimately make artists that don't understand fundamentals, but the discussion is pretty important imo Always good to hear other artists thoughts : )
You gotta know the rules to be able to break the rules. First, you get good. Then you get faster, all that jazz.
Holly never got good, she skipped out on that part entirely and opted for speed.
Being an individual working on a project, it would behoove you to know the foundations like the back of your hand, and take the time to do things right, even if it means doing it slower.
But if you're in a studio environment, it pays to know the fundamentals, and then be able to work as effectively and efficiently as possible so that you can hand the work you did off to the next person who needs to add or refine it. there's nothing lazy about quickness, when you know your fundamentals well first
. If a studio is hiring people that don't at least have that, then they probably aren't putting out good work, if any.
Holly is someone who takes a cursory glance at something and says to herself "tch, I can do that. I can do that better
and I can do it faster
" and her end result always ends up looking sloppy because she fails to realize she can't have it both ways. yet she wants to pass it off as "work ethic" when she can't even give the basics the time of day.
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She updated the mermay video on twitter and i still have no idea whats going on. She's not going to get hired as a story board artist if she can't construct a narrative without using words.
I’m H.C. BRown I think mermay is lame and artists I should not do it, so I’m going to do it and teach you, but I’m not doing mermay no it just so happens that I want to draw mermaids there is a different guy.
I really hate her.
How convenient it is that, despite representing the same pose and angle of the flesh version, the skeleton one is seen flat from the back instead of 3/4?
Learn your fucking anatomy, Holly.
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Only comment that seems to make any sense
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I don’t think anybody is asking for this, you just want to do them. To get money cause everybody is doing mermay but BRown is unique so this is not for the money but cause someone ask her.
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Well Holly, maybe they’re just being honest. Like you do.
for fuck's sake anons, it's a funny broken English email that says "we want to do an exploitation" >picking on people who speak English as a second language
let's not become worse than the cows yeah?
Anon, what I meant is that Holly is constantly saying that she’s blunt and people are pussy if they’re offended the way she speaks, but she feels “offended” by a blunt email, even if it’s pretty clear the bluntness comes from not knowing the language.
She’s also really into shitting on other people’s typos and grammar saying people can’t write and assuming everybody is a native.
I would never make fun of the email or that broken English, you totally misunderetood.
English stuff refers to the other anon's post.
>but she feels “offended”
no she doesn't. She was making a joke. People fall into such low expectations of cows etc. that when the cow ever does something lighthearted it flies right by them
The joke is that the email uses the word exploitation, which is second language interference where in that language it means profit or something, but by happenstance in English it means we're trying to exploit you, hence the humor. Nothing in her post is making fun of grammar or writing skills or anything just stop
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So she's in her final year and this is what she's doing? like, I understand sometimes upperclassmen take basic classes late, but damn this is seriously some 101 shit. The only reason she is taking these classes is because her aunt/mom expects her to.
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Isn't Hershel Hispanic? She complains about everything, if you don't like characters like that don't read them.
I doubt a writer is gonna change their characters because BRown and her shitty attitude said to.
literally what is she talking about? nobody writes characters talking like that anymore, except maybe japanese creators but that's a whole another can of worms- and quentin tarantino as a fcking joke and nobody has taken him seriously in like 10 years.
she wants to make it appear she knows better, when her own mexican character so far seems to be the exact mexican gardener stereotype and she constantly keeps talking about how he's hot and buff. ew. love how this is clearly 100% coming from a place of wanting to appear better and smarter than other people instead of being worried about hispanic people getting stereotyped in media.
I kind of love how her example of bad dialogue is “what’s up, ese?”
that’s some basic ass casual shit that some dude on the street would say, but maybe that’s just me basing it off my surroundings vs. hers
Hershel. The one with black/purple hair?
What’s interesting to me is that she bitches about people writing Hispanic characters that way but her Hispanic character is bland and forgettable cause she can’t give him any personality.
He was white at the very beginning. Guess changing names wasn’t an option.
Big crooked noses can happen in every ethnicity, though.
Her "muscly" purple haired OC is Hispanic, as well as the one with fish scales, green hair, black skin.
Yeah Holly can complain that making Hispanic characters too stereotypical is "problematic
", but making them not even remotely resemble their native peoples is just as bad imo. Like if I made a black emo and gave him a jewish name and told people he was Chinese it's just confusing and stupid.>>584776
Both Hershel and that green haired abomination were white in the beginning. Pretty sure Holly just changed them to random grab-bag skin colors and nationalities because she wanted social justice points/money.
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She always has to shit on art styles different from hers. She’s drawing what looks like a typical cutesy anime girl so of course she’s gonna turn her nose at moe styles (which yeah they’re usually bad but the point is to add as minimal features for maximum cute effect). Kyoani does this all the time and are masters at drawing cute girls, but even then they add shadows to frontal views so the noses have more depth. Holly’s art can never be cute it’s just beyond fucking ugly and irreparable.
whats up with her ears tho ??????
they look so weird ??
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No one asked for this
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What did Miku even do to deserve this, leave her alone ffs
The fact that this is actually ten times better than her own style is really telling.
We've found the reasons other than anatomy why her art is so horrible, the way she draws noses and horribly same face eyes.
This is honestly incredibly bizarre.
Is she using that image as evidence of artists redesigning Miku???
Hey Holly, newsflash: Those aren't redesigns–those are different AUs/styles based on what song she's in.
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Not even mentioning the horrendous works on the limbs here, but God. Look at these eyes. Can't she for once try and draw a well balanced face, or is that too hard for a "professional" artist like her? Also as I'm writing this I just realized she even forgot to draw an eyebrow. Miku deserves better…
the more I look at her legs, the more confused I get because they don't seem to attach properly to the rest of her body at all? to say nothing of those escaping arms, holy shit. also the paw hand, lol. even her feet are detaching or drawn at the wrong angle, like the closest foot.. what is happening there?
and maybe this is nitpicky but it bothers me how thin the ends of her pigtails are and how much detail Holly put into the hair there… but then you get to her head and it's basically just a few fat spikes on top of her head with no movement or depth. it looks like a starfish died there omg
thanks Holly, I hate it
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kek saw this on my twitter feed and instantly thought of holly's video, I wonder if this person is talking about her?
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come on. It's espresso with crema. It looks fine to me
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She just posted a bunch of shit onto her IG, shoutout to this masterpiece in particular for lookin like hot garbage. Holly, for gods sake, learn to not muddy your darn colors so much!!! You say you’re good at colors and yet this is the shit you spew out?
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So many fricken idks. >>587052
That guy doesn't even look like he's in that space. It's like she pasted it on top of the box
Holly, it's called growing a pair and standing up for your own desires for once. "Oh, boohoo, someone said I should do something I don't wanna do, how can I cope???"
Maybe, I dunno, have proper conviction and personal motive to do comics and non-realism art? Considering that all you do is bitch and moan about how making color comics or grey-shading is too 'time consuming', it makes you look like you fucking hate art in general. If it's what you want to do, you wouldn't be throwing your vision and artistic integrity out of the window just to save a few seconds or to deny that your art looks like hot garbage, and actually get better.
Grow a spine or stop doing art if you can't, pick one.
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Did she really need another pose book considering she doesn't know how to use references?
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Such flat cups and the items on the table look like they're floating in space.
as much as she doesnt wanna hear it, this is so much more pleasing to the eye than her usual shit. it's not good, but it's not visually offensive. taking away her ability to pisswash everything improves her coloring, if even slightly.
it's such a refreshing break from her usual broken-doll figures, but it's also way less fun to make fun of. would she kill her hate audience if she became too boring to talk shit about?
Seconding this. Esp after her Tumblr Art Styles video, it seems that whenever she draws in a style that’s not her regular one it looks a lot better. Not great, but if she stuck to one of these alternate styles and really studied I feel like she’d get further in her art and come up w/ more pleasing shit.
But, you know, this is Holly BRown we’re talking about so I doubt she’d actually take this advice if she still lurks here and all
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what's on this book? i cant tell if its the cover… or what
but i agree with you. it still has her obvious touch, but it's just mediocre, not offensive. it's not good, it's just not bad enough to notice if it was all she did.
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i think it's pic related but i could be wrong.
You got that right. Perspective is something Holly needs to start getting right, right now. It's not something she needs to gradually work on. It's a fundamental problem in the way she approaches her artwork. Her whole perspective on art is fucked and so, her technical perspective is fucked. It's a trap that a lot of artists fall into. They go to an art class and learn that you're supposed to paint what you SEE, not what you THINK you see, and so they outline and trace and copy objects from all kinds of angles to build up their "visual library" of symbol-drawing, and end up making work that is just a collage of shit they have seen somewhere else before; a nice brick pattern from here, a wavy hair flip from here, and some anime eye stylisation from here…
They train themselves to break DOWN, analyze, simplify what they see into shadow shapes, color blocks, without really understanding how to build it UP, from the ground up. Making art doesn't always have to be a collage of shit you've seen before! You don't always need to find the exact pose doll, the right reference book, if you have the skill to draw shapes and forms instead of symbols. Making art involves IMAGNIATION. Don't just draw what you see, or what you think you see, draw what you KNOW and draw that thing in a way that expresses how you FEEL about it. Break it down into shapes, understand WHY you're drawing it at the angle you're drawing it at. Try another angle. Does it make it FEEL different? Try another. Add details, erase them away. Build up like a sculptor and then chip away like a woodcutter. The medium of drawing is so free and without boundaries that it's amazing to see how many limitations Holly seems to put on herself.
Oh silly anon, she's not a fine artist she's a professional animator , clearly what you shared doesn't apply to the skilled artist Holly BRown since she's on a whole other medium of choice
No but seriously she really does need to learn the fundamental understandings of how art is created and i would suggest a start woukd be to draw from 3 dimensional life rather than flat pictures of objects and such.
The average person has two eyes that are looking at different angles from one another, a much more realistic perspective is going to reflect that fact as opposed from drawing off of photographs without knowing where to change certain perspectives to look more realistic and not flattened
that would be a good suggestion for anyone but Holly. Have you seen her skull drawings? And the ones she did for the mini moped and bike models she bought? They were atrocious.
I don't know how she manages to always mess stuff like that up, I always thought it was just because it was a flat image, but apparently not.
Wow that’s fucking rad that another YTber would be so blatant about their feelings on Holly. I actually like Kitsune Zakuro, their content is very basic and fandom pandery, but at least they can draw unlike some…
Saged for being kinda ot
The only things I disagree on is her being good at backgrounds and inking. Her background are too wonky and out of perspective. She over details and that makes her perspective mistakes even more obvious. And the ink? She’s either only doing no thickness OR (in the past) she just randomly inked everything with the same huge brush pen and it was a total mess.
That girl was way too nice to holly, imo.
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a bit off topic and i don't know if someone else has mentioned this already but does holly have some mild form of dyslexia? i know it might be a stretch but whenever she makes a long post on twitter her words feel disjointed. not to mention the numerous spelling mistakes and the repetition of "like" and "idk". does she have a condition or does her awful speech patterns just rub off on her writing and she doesn't reread what shes about to post before clicking send?
Holly doesn't look over her own artwork
before she posts it, I don't know why you think she would for something like a tweet (or even the damn text in her comics, which is ten times worse than any tweet she's made).
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Unfortunately for her, Google image search isn't too nice with her either - some pics that pop up lead directly to lolcow; also this apparent rant video circled in pic related that pops up after 2 seconds of scrolling lmao (but it's mostly just her worst drawings & boring video thumbnails)
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So she's gonna waste another couple of years in grad school BS-ing homework?
I just want to add that kickstarter can be used to support you to take the time off to do the work. That's what a lot of video game kickstarters tend to be. And things like anthologies will pay artists. If you're open about taking a cut and pay yourself for time, it's not as shit as it sounds.
That said none of her money actually goes into her Kickstarter since she does create space runs.
i'm in a bitchy mood and this just fucking pissed me off
it's because work and especially animation takes fucking time holly, which is why you can't have 70 projects at once, which is why if you ever want to do any thing decent in your life you have to spend time on it. ffs
one time in an aaron blaise live stream he said to animate 1 minute of footage it takes him about a month. it reminded me of how she wildly overestimates her skill and the amount of actual legit effort it takes to do good work
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Don't know if this is still relevant but I found this image on pinterest and it looked oddly familiar (sorry if this was already posted)
She should toss her “look at the reference for ten seconds and then close it” in the garbage.
She has no problem tracing but referencing something properly is totally unacceptable? Fucking look, understand, copy and learn.
That’s honestly crap from start to finish. They’re both ugly and Faye in particular is a rag doll.
She obviously wants to keep studying because she knows nobody will ever hire her for her skills, and she can keep other two years faking she’s not working because she’s a student.
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I hope that she gets to teach middle schoolers/high schoolers.>"Today class we are doing the sketchbook slam challenge"
Miss, my drawings are getting worst and worst drawing 20 pages a day, and failing my other classes doing your homework!>"No you are progressing well if it looks your characters look bad just draw backgrounds to compensate."
Students will find her shitty yaoi porn online and call her a fat, fujo faggot.She is basically setting herself up for another edgy kid to make a video on how evil their art teacher is
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Meaning, time to make more shitty art videos
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What is that scarecrow body
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April’s videos, including a gag video.
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May’s videos so far.
She does about a video a week. So how is she going to scale that back? A video each fortnight? A month?
And her videos are making more than her clever kitchen bs. How much has she spent on that vs YouTube?
OT I am actually curious about how much youtube is actually taking out and why? That's actually concerning
on topic, is… is Holly writing shitty rape porn?
There's money in porn but not the kind of shit holly wants to make. You either do fetish/OC commissions, popular fanart, or a web comic with mass appeal.
Drawing porn also requires a very deep understanding of anatomy and character interaction. You need to know a lot about the human body in 3d space before you can draw anything sexy besides symbol-drawn pinups.
We've already seen holly's terrible paper-doll with ptsd porn. There are already amazing yaoi artists who are way more appealing than her. There's no way she can compete with them and get enough money to support herself.
Holly if you want to get porn money, improve your technical skill and accept that you won't get rich off your ugly OCs.
you’re “friends” with renowned pedophole shadman? y i k e s >>590919
the way holly tried to monetize EVERYTHING really makes me wonder if she’s an artist for the love of art or just sees it as a means to an end. not to mention making good money as an artist involves a lot of doing the exact opposite you want under a client’s direction. and she hates doing anything she doesn’t want it her schoolwork is any indication.
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Flipping some burgers would probably do her good, honestly.
I'd have more respect for someone who worked in a fast food chain to get by while making art they loved on the side than I'd have for this trash trying to wringe money out of drawing wonky porn.
She’s ALWAYS shat on mc Donald’s jobs and joked about how she would kill herself instead of working there.
Talk about “needing” money. She was way too lucky to find a “fanbase” at such a low level.
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lol dw that isn't me
i hate shadman- not only for being an edgelord but their work is shoddy af as well; does anyone remember that loli pic with the girl tied up and her hands are backwards lmao. funny he should come up in this thread because he reminds me of a robot incel holly.
Yes, the folks i know use aliases it would be pretty stupid not to tbh. they aren't mega attention whore famous like shad but they are pretty well known in the furry/fetish community. i've learned a lot about anatomy and composition from them. I really respect them as craftspeople
i think people are too scared because most people obviously pity her and think she's retarded so it'd be seen as bullying lol.
I think the only person that would be "qualified" as in, holly wouldn't react like:
>CAN YOU DO BETTER THO??
would be an actually accomplished yt artists and all of them are too professional to start drama
The worst cover imaginable, stiff and absolutely not erotic whatsoever. Porn doujin or whatever usually tease a bit making someone want to open it and look, this is not enticing at all.
Also, a little nitpick but what the fuck kind of kidnapper/rapist uses scissors to cut the tape?
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Ms. BRown running her mouth about things she clearly has no knowledge or understanding of, again. Put down the Jordan Peterson books, Holly, you're starting to sound as much of a raving lunatic as him.
so because some media has stupid or abusive male characters, people can't criticize toxic masculinity? And women can solve toxic masculinity by being nicer to men?
Holy fuck Holly.
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>a good person,
…She'll 'decided for herself', guys.
It actually dovetails nicely into her whole "I don't relate to other women" …thing, she has going on.
While meanwhile, >>591396
Jordan B Peterson has people believing that it's their right to say some pretty bigoted things and not get labelled appropriately for the things they say. In his and his admirers' eyes they are being intellectually honest, and the awful people calling them out on their behaviour should be silent.
The people that Peterson appeals to tend to have some repugnant views by modern standards: singling out Islam as a religion for harsh criticism, belittling women, etc.
I think Peterson gives these people comfort. He gives hope to those who don't appreciate progressive values.(derailing)
Oh that quality book?
Here are the 12 steps if you’re curious
>Stand up straight with your shoulders back>Treat yourself like someone you are responsible for helping>Make friends with people who want the best for you>Compare yourself to who you were yesterday, not to who someone else is today>Do not let your children do anything that makes you dislike them>Set your house in perfect order before you criticize the world>Pursue what is meaningful (not what is expedient)>Tell the truth – or, at least, don't lie>Assume that the person you are listening to might know something you don't>Be precise in your speech>Do not bother children when they are skateboarding>Pet a cat when you encounter one on the street
I wonder if she’s suddenly going to “be precise in your speech” or assume that others might have information worth listening to. The book is a bunk “selfhelp” book. One of the points might as well be “be nice.”
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Holly really is the perfect example of a dumbfuck who consumes shitty right-wing content on the internet made to make money, and think she's vastly intelligent because of it.
Like, she really thinks she has the capacity to read any work of Peterson's and evaluate it on its own merit, when the bitch can't even string a coherent sentence together.
anyway can't wait til this dumb bitch stops running her mouth
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Sha came up with the idea the other day. She only made this cover sketch so far and she’s already putting up preorders?
And wait, you have less than 10 days to preorder this shit that god even knows when it’s going to be delivered? She must REALLY need money, I wonder what expensive crap she’s longing this time.
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this is the summary on the preorder page of her "doujinshi" so im guessing Herschel has a pain/kidnap/rape fetish?
I can understand opening up pre-orders for a work, but typically you need to have the majority of it already
made. that's why there's teaser art or preview pages for most books. Holly just plans on making the books herself and gobbling up the money for it cause she's a pig and a scam artist. I wouldn't even buy this 'just to see' what's in it bc it doesn't even exist past a cover page and synopsis. if she can't finish a proper chapter of her main comic, what in the world would make me wanna buy this with any confidence?
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These pins are so fugly
Enamel packaging just LAZIER. Also I can’t get over the fact that she commissioned the pins before even starting to draw the comic, resulting in characters being a primitive version and buttugly to say the least.
She’s picking the end of the month as a deadline for way too many things… I wonder why she needs cash so quickly.
I'm nitpicky too, I don't want something I bought to say "A gift for you" on it unless I asked for it to be gift wrapped. I bought it, what the hell is it, a gift to myself?
And wouldn't custom printed packaging make sense with her own artwork on it, not some random cat thing?
My theory on why she needs cash is San Japan coming up and forgot about needing plane tickets and a room (I remember in a previous thread she said she was flying which is absolutely nonsensical considering the amount of stuff she's gonna be hauling with her)
Where the hell do I even begin with this hot mess.
First: why call it a doujinshi when it's her own characters? If it were SOMEONE ELSE doing this with her OCs or an ANTHOLOGY of different artists including Holly, then yes, it would make sense to call it that. But primarily, doujinshi is done for pre-existing works. Just call it a fucking comic, Holly, that's what it is.
Second: who the FUCK does she think she is? Is she really putting up preorders TODAY and leaving them open for ONE WEEK? This is just like her soon-to-be-atomic-bomb of a zine for MHA (giving artists an unrealistically short time frame to finish their pieces by the 31st). Also, >>591803
it's common for doujinshi and books in general to have pre-order stages due to how long they take to produce. Japanese sites like Toranoana does this because they're a professional shop who work with artists that know what the hell they're doing.
When you open up pre-orders for something, any self-respecting artist who KNOWS what they're doing leave them open until a) a set stock they already have sells out, or b) has a decent time frame open (1-2, maybe even 3 months is standard for books). Even fucking Moo did this with her awful keychains, so congratulations Holly, one of the stupidest cows on this site is officially smarter than you when it comes to selling pre-orders.
I haven't even gone into the artistic stages with this trite garbage.
>using an unfinished, ugly, LAZY sketch as the front cover for muh aesthetic purposes>the fact that she wants to sell her OCs when it would be more logical and rake in more money if she did a pre-existing series (YOU KNOW LIKE WHAT A DOUJINSHI IS SUPPOSED TO FUCKING BE)>this will most likely never see the light of day bc of all her projects she piles on to herself>no one will buy it because her fanbase is filled with 13 yr old scumbag, edgelord fujoshits like her and it's 18+>32 FUCKING PAGES LONG yet still calls it a "mini comic". Holly. "Mini" means about 10-15 pages in the doujinshi business, not fucking 32. Oh wait, if she made it that short, she would have to charge about $7 instead of $15. Greedy cunt.
Sorry for sperging, but holy FUCK, I hate people like her who talk like she knows everything and then fucks up the easiest shit because of her ignorance.
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Oh yikes. Money not well spent
Are her characters even drawn like this anymore? I don’t trust Holly to draw anything on model. >>592232
I must admit, Holly knows how to wrap up a turd nicely. However it doesn’t cover up the waste of money buying her “products” really is.
imo it's better to just get clear packets and design a nice backing card that complements the theme of the pin.
I mean in the end it doesn't really matter since it mostly gets thrown away but it looks more professional.
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That's not an attack, that's a legit suggestion. scheduled work can ground someone like her with all that time she thinks she's got (and still manages to rush?), and give a more realistic view of what she can accomplish, while having some level of consistency.
but no, 'flipping burgers' and retail are just so beneath her now.
actually I'd have at least a bit more respect for her if she did hold a part time job. at least then she might be
a bit more humble/tolerable.
so fuck her for also shitting on the ways artists need to get by to supplement their living/ passions. what an uppity pig.
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Ffs, stop playing the dead dad card and talking like there’s tons of people judging you. You fucking got ONE comment, grow a pair.
No no no anon those were “investments.” She’s a business woman. /s
She needs to give herself a stern talking to, figure out a proper budget, clean her shithole of a room, and focus on a few profitable ventures. He issue isn’t her dad died, which like yeah I have empathy for. It’s that she has no personal accountability or responsibility and just wants to draw whatever she feels like in that moment. Clever Kitchen is a time sink. Her comic is a time sink. Her “animations” are a time sink. Manually making everything is a time sink. Lesson 101 of fucking life is that time is money. Yet she wastes so much of it doing busy work and shitty childish projects that she puts zero thought into. This nsfw shit is just another example of that. She has no idea if it’s going to make her money. It might even lose her money because fans could be turned off. Like she said, she draws a lot of Nsfw stuff anyway so she’s just trying to keep doing whatever she wants and try to profit off of it.
She needs to cut the shit, trim the fat, and figure out what is actually making her money and only focus on that. She needs to crank out profitable art like a machine. That’s how you get ahead. Not trying fifty different things, spending a fortune on programs and tools, and then failing at it all. Who gives a fuck about being a sell out? Work hard now, do side pieces you’re passionate about, and when you have stability, start being more independent with your choices. She acts like she has all the freedom in the world to do whatever art she wants. Which I mean, sure, if she wants to be a “starving artist.” But then she doesn’t get to bitch about money. She can’t make whatever she feels like in the moment regardless of profitability and then bitch about having no money. She can’t do both.
>>592652>"Clever Kitchen is a time sink."
Clever Kitchen is probably to only thing she should actually be doing right now since she needs to finish it to graduate. If Holly actually wanted a job in the animation industry she should be promoting the shit out of Clever Kitchen and posting updates on the process.
I think the main problem is Holly is unable to plan ahead at all. She has no idea what to with her life so she keeps jumping from one interest to another. The best thing for Holly right now would be sit down and actually think about what she wants to do. If she wants to work on comics for the rest of her life then she should focus on promoting her comics and releasing pages in a timely manner. If she wants to be an animator then she needs to keep us updated on her projects and try to build connections with people in the industry instead of shitting all over them in her videos. Finally, if she just wants to be a youtuber who sells crafts on the side, she needs to stop guilt tripping her audience constantly and work on her PR (ie stop posting about polarized topics on twitter and fighting people who call you out).
Actually, no. She doesn’t need KC “to graduate”, we don’t even know if her school will accept that stuff as a final project. She is in illustration, so KC as an animation is totally off topic and really hard to judge. A simple animation would have been useless, but she jumped on a full 10 minutes of animations only because she wants to prove god knows who that she can make animations.
But it’s not necessary. It would be necessary to build a project that focuses on illustrations. Build that project, put effort into it, learn how to speak about the project.
She could have made a full portfolio for the DEVELOPMENT of KC, complete with real studies and such, and call it a day.
So I agree with the other anon, KC is a sink. Nobody asked for her to create a 10 minutes short, ever.
Is she doing that because she wants to work in animation? Why doesn’t she fucking study fundamentals? A shorter but conscious animation impresses way more than a 10 minute turd. Also if she’s aiming at a studio job she should cut with her attitude, learn to be humble and, like, start networking.
But who in their sane mind would want to work with her?
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Ugh she's passing on her shitty anatomy to the impressionable youth of the internet.
Dare I say it looks better than her actual art
There was a bit of posting awhile of back of artists on here that had been influenced by Holly's art (mainly large chins) but it seems a few people are noticing she's really shit and are moving away from it
i don't think she realizes she's scamming, but i do think she over plays the regular payments normal people have to pay. She's definitely trying hard to make her e-begging seem like "guys i had to resort to porn" or "it's not ebegging because i'm giving you a product" no matter how subpar the product is.
it makes her audience feel bad and when questioned she can pretend to be progressive (even though she's fujo trash and we know she draws that shit anyway she just wants money for it)
>to keep me from flipping burgers
>the lazy horse shit i'm making is worth your money i'm too professional to work in a job like that i had my own business at 23 reeeeeeee
She's in illustration online college… She is also going to an anime convention to sell prints in less than a year.
Why the everloving fuck isn't she making illustrations for her school she can ALSO sell as prints?
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She has a sponsor button available for this stream and these are the emojis. She says that's an eggplant.
She is so unbearable, it's hard to even try. Also pot is the devil, a gateway drug dull of gross stuff.
She says she's not conservative but damn if she doesn't sound like a concerned mom who is trying so hard to be cool.
does she know that birth control can fail. And that people don't only have sex when they want to reproduce. She has the opinions of a sheltered high schooler who hasn't experienced the world yet.>>592875
fujos are nasty
"It's because I have a skill, it's called drawing."
Skill is the last thing I would describe Holly's art with.
I mean sure, if she makes more money drawing porn than working at McDonald's, why not, but I'm sure it's going to crash and burn like every other project she's trying to make money on.
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Anytime Holly talks about starting another goddamn project
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When her fans draw better stuff than her. He actually looks like he has muscles now
Judging by the skill of the fan artist, it looks like it was possibly made by one of Holly's slightly more artistically adept followers who is trying to sponge off some of Holly's e-fame.
For all the anons on here trying to tear apart the piece, it's honestly pretty good. I mean it's no Picasso but I personally would consider commissioning the original artist.
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She retweeted this. We really hit a sore spot, huh.
She immediately just spends all the money she gets from videos and whatever art she makes on whatever shiny new thing catches her interest to make more art that she barely, if ever, makes a profitable return on…
I'd noticed she pretty much has been ramping up the asking for money lately though. And there's nothing wrong with making money off your work, but she's doing everything in such a slapdash way, it all just ends up coming off as a moneygrab without really caring or looking at what she's making. There's no thought or time going into what she makes, and that's sort of disrespectful to her audience that might be the slightest bit interested.
"I'm gonna pump this crap out, they'll buy anything"
is what it feels like.
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This is kind of what I feared most, that and any other super hero she gets her grubby, greasy hands on.
Didn't she constantly shit on the superhero genre? Why the sudden interest now
She only likes these heroes because they're from a manga.
The exact same story and characters could have come from a western superhero comic book artist and she'd pay it zero attention
hey im the creator of that vid and i made it almost a year ago now, and i dont agree with what i said anymore lol.. ive since gone to art uni and actually been educated in good work ethics and good illustrators and i now can confirm that holly BRown is trash, so take that vid with a pinch of salt
sage for ot?
Whats with her fetishizing hispanic men?
She never seems to specify what "hispanic" her characters are.
Are they central,islanders,southern latinos?
i know herschel or whatever is supposed to be Mexican.
is she really fetishizing latino man? i can't tell if she ever had a hardon for other latino men, fictional or otherwise
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Someone called the lame nightwing fanart. She did a sketch dump on twitter and they are all awful
Again with that fucking hair. I swear that's just Herschel in a mask.
Also she can make her characters whatever race she wants, but like, they're all bland as toast anyway. She has an obvious obsession with 'muscles' though since she likes to point out that Herschel has them. a lot. Even though he doesn't.
Homemaker =/= Trophy Wife.
If Holly had the looks she would 100% be happy just sitting there looking pretty if it meant she could continue being a leech. I mean she already basically scams her fans into basically just giving her money so it's not that different.
Also,>"sex is scary"
I really doubt Holly is anti-sex. She just like parroting stupid fundamentalist views like the sheep she is. Of course, like many other fundamentalist's out there, she is definitely a huge hypocrite who would probably jump at the chance to have sex with a guy she finds attractive.
You're right, I should've come at that angle but I was humoring anon. Hell I know I wouldn't eat any meals cooked by Holly, she thinks stale ass rice cakes are better for her than fruit and vegetables as a snack. Stupid much? I hope they realize how much of a scammer she actually is when the zine books are shit and when it takes forever for her fucking rape fantasy book to come out.
Need a big hypocrite stamp to put over her face! She definitely isn't anti-sex, she's anti-abortion for herself so she's scared she's going to get pregnant so she avoids sex I guess. A baby would eat up all the time she spends on her shitty art and she can't have that.
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well she really likes Lance from Voltron Legendary Defenders who's cuban? dont know if both reese and herschel were hispanic before that
but herschel used be white, and I was under the impression reese was black but i guess holly is bad at skin tones
heck i dunno if herschel is dark tan or light yellow, its been kinda inconsistent
Yo you're right, anon. My mistake lmao.
Holly just leeches off of trends for however long she's interested in making money off it. wonder what ever happened to those 500 Hamilton projects she had going. I know she dropped some.
But the only reason people follow her around is because she A) had merch for a popular thing, or said she liked popular thing and drew it
B) 'speaks her mind' and those 'edgy teens' like what she has to say because 'a lotta people don't know' her opinions are actually unpopular
C) hate following her. Which i guess is a lot of this forum.
She'll never be known for much else since she'll die if she gets her head out of her ass, that's her main source of oxygen after all.
yea I think the only reason people are stillw atchign is for those rant type videos.
I mean yea she can have an opinion , but her's is not totally solid all the time ?(( idk if that makes sense )
Like she wants to be edgy but at the same time not totally , idk its a weird paradox for me to see .She'll probably pander to anyone though so there's that.