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yes! finally this thread! I mean I like to see these rather than I want to do them, but I did amuse myself making this before. I'm not sure what to do about the horizon. Btw holly brown posted with the comment "yes i fucked up the perspective, here's an edit" (i think implying the perspective was supposed to be fixed)
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Does anyone else get a kick out of art improvement pictures?
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It makes me sad when there’s barely any improvement, though.
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Nine years… damn.
lol i was shook seeing my redline as an OP image
ppl got so mad at it that i stopped posting in those threads
HB's stuff is so nonsensical that its v hard for artists to resist manually showing whats wrong w it instead of typing it out bullet by bullet point, glad u made a thread
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Yeah! I really appreciated that pic when I saw it because I’m not an artist so I don’t know why an art piece looks wrong, I just know it does.
This is another fav of mine from the Holly threads. If you put your hands to your face, your thumb is near your ear. Idk why she doesn’t just try these things before she draws them.
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hey i drew something
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Holy shit anon. That’s miles better. Made a quick side by side of Spechie’s original and yours.
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I think by the time you're looking that far down, you have to start hinting at a third vanishing point at the bottom
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Redline spotted in the Holly thread
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just tried to fix anatomy and use more vibrant colours etc, i didn't try to keep any of the details. still not worth $30 imo
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I messed with it in a beauty app just for laughs but it's still such garbage. Does Holly actually know what humans look like?
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… How is the shading wonky if there is no shading, though?
I do think the eyes are too big (even for animu, kinda like kanon or air) and the head is too small, though.
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how's this? the forehead just irked me.
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Spechie’s art Facetuned.
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I'm the facetune anon (which was just for fun), but I didn't do any of the others.
You can't stylize until you know the basics. Spechie has absolutely awful technical and stylistic skills. She doesn't understand basic anatomy, line work, lighting, coloring, ect. You can't go "oh but style" for any of that. Her work is shit. That's pretty much a universally agreed with opinion on this site (check the general art thread and her thread on snow). If you wanna disagree, you can, but just know most people are going to think your opinion is shit- because she's shit. If you honestly look at >>250576
and think the left looks better than the right, then yikes. Idk what to say to that.
She can't draw a normal face, the alien bug-eyed with no chin look isn't an intentional style choice, its a lack of skill. The shitty line quality, unrefined edges, poorly rendered and detailed features, etc aren't a choice. They're cause she's baaaad. I never thought I'd see someone defend Spechie's "style" on here, its like defending Holly's. I'm kinda like just shocked.
But, regardless, this is a thread for fun. Contribute your own redraws, redlines, or revised work. Its fun.
(And kek at calling Spechie a "cartoonist." She's a shitty youtube "artist" who is just famous for her spergy rants and edgelord attitude.)
I dont care about or know of any of these artists. in my field it just grinds my gears when laymen try to criticize modern work when you have absolutely no tools to do that.
she doodles story cartoons. shes not studying from roberto ferri's atelier as a neo-baroque painter, or designing for a functional use, these people are delusional at worst or just doing casual digital outsider works on her non monetized channel, which you'd specifically need go out of your way to see any mention of. shes telling personal stories with doodles because she likes to.
every "fix" in this thread is objectively and equally "bad", with no potential for improvement. you'd need to construct an entirely new original foundation using hundreds of 3-dimensional geometric shapes from the perspective point(s). you cant just warp or blend over it and say its better on those arbitrarily chosen points because you made it look smooth and flat or put things into "place". you're not "correcting" it. you're doing things you personally like which look just as bad.
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This isn’t the vent or unpopular opinion thread. People are having fun. And there’s no way you can look at these side by sides and say they’re “objectively” just as bad. >>244106>>244263>>244106>>250307>>250576>>250595
Sorry the thread struck a nerve with you cause of your job, but that doesn’t mean anons’ works are bad.>laymen try to criticize modern work>modern work
Kek. So far it’s been fucking Holly and Spechie. You projecting?>shes telling personal stories with doodles because she likes to.
That’s nice. Good for her. She’s still a whiney cow with no talent. >you'd need to construct an entirely new original foundation using hundreds of 3-dimensional geometric shapes from the perspective point(s).
Kek what? >say its better on those arbitrarily chosen points because you made it look smooth and flat or put things into "place".
Anatomy don’t real. Only geometric shapes and “style”
Why so triggered
, anon? You’re the only cringey one here. Everyone else is just having fun and fucking about with art. What “field” are you even in where you think Spechie/Holly’s work is “objectively” just as good as the edits? And even if everyone’s work is just based on what they personally like, who fucking cares? Why does it bother you that they’re playing around with art and what they like? It’s not that serious.
I played around in Facetune again for like five minutes. Hope it doesn’t trigger
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This Facetune bullshit is so fun and quick. I can see why Istebrak has built a career on fucking about with other people’s work. It’s pretty satisfying, even if the end result is still shit. Found this pic on ugly art thread.
why are you so triggered
by someone calling you istebrak? tbh her facial anatomy is way better than yours
Hopefully she’s much much better. I’m not an artist, and that’s her job. How am I triggered
? I’m just baffled that you’re so mad I fucked around in a free beauty app. Why does it bother you so much? I’m not mad or hurt that some anon is sperging out over my five minute facetunes. It was for fun. I encourage you to try it yourself, as mine are so shit and you know much better, and cause it’s actually really satisfying and fun (like I’ve said over and over).
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Are you MAD im not MAD are you really TRIGGERED trollface
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Ik it’s still jacked but you know what they say about polishing a turd lmao
>first is “hc BRowns
>second is trying to warp
>impossible, decide to paint over and fix mood and poses
Tfw your art is so bad not even photoshop can fix it
this isn't much of an improvement, it looks just as bad but in a different way.>>256061
2nd one definitely looks better than the other two, but why did you give them tits?
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>first is spechie>second is warping it>third is paint over
Spechie reminds me of half the weeb art kids I went to school with, awful>>256064
Lmao they’re meant to be pecs, but it’s such a shit angle that it makes the whole thing look off, idk I hate when men’s chests are draw super flat it just bugs me
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Whoops, wrong image
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It looks way worse lmao, reminds me of something you'd find in the "girls like us" tag on tunglr
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congratulations it's somehow worse
reminds me of pic related
Thanks, Mind telling me why exactly you think so? >>256083
It is spechie after all, she already looks like one, but I guess I like them caterpillar eyebrows so there’s that>>256084
Haha sims is a big inspiration of mine, how’d ya know?
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It's more than just the eyebrows, gorl… The only thing that looks okay is the nose, literally everything else is giving me awkward, uncanny valley wikihow troon selfie that was taken with the DSi camera and edited in the emoter lens + meitu
The hair in the last one is so satisfying compared to her clusterfuck hair styles.>>256079
Hey yeah so you need to work on your edges. The hair doesn’t have any weight or structure. And you also need to work on facial anatomy. The issues from the first are still there (strange eyes, awkward chin, etc) but then you added some like the strange lip expression and tiny teeth. I do like how you’ve colored the cheeks. Work on refining your edges, like making them more concrete and not so blurry and vague.
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i done one
pls let this become a meme
sorry about how unfinished/messy everything is. This is all I had time to do, but i'm petty af and will jump at any chance to overdraw for the keks
>mfw her neck is still not connected to her head correctly just like spechies version
a true homage
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Damn your a great artist but you basically destroyed that dumpster fire of original artwork and created your own that bares a vague resemblance to the original trash and replicated trash.
Your art kind of reminds me of a mix between steins gate and the letter visual novels.
thank you anon!
I'm new to artfagging on this site but i'll try do some more things in threads like these
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i deleted my post to add to this lmao sorry it's scribbly garbage
yay i like your style frien>>256148
i find photoshop is all i need, if i'm doing linework then clip studio. I actually don't use this style much, I'm more a fan on textured brushes and ps handles them really well
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i didnt bother putting it into the row, but i tried my hand at redrawing the spechie pic. white bg bcuz lazy.
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Added yours. I like the expression.>>256152>>256132
These are pretty sweet too.
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A different flavour of Spechie.
Does this even count as a redraw at this point
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This seemed fun so I did one too, it was an awesome practice sketch before work, so thanks.
Um you missed the best one >>256646
Include it and it’s perf.>>256655
Cause is funny. And interesting. And shows how awful her “style” is. Shhh. Don’t question brilliance
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Ah sorry I wasn't the person who started to collect these so I hadn't thought about adding the others
Here fixed it!
thanks I’m glad you like it!
And I do but I’m really unsure about sharing it on lolcow of all places
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redrew her cherry because it sucked ass :) critiques welcome, just tried to stay on model.
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I think it’d help if you pushed her thighs further apart and also made it more stylized like attached pic
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redraw on the right. sorry that its so messy my pen pressure was not working at all last night. made the hoodie not airtight and tried to fix the hands best i could
tbh Im also always triggered
in animes when any kind of shirt is airtight on the breasts and chest. Like thats not how clothing works ffs. not even latex clothing.
Style wise I think the airtight clothing looks better. It's not logical, but gives her otherwise very lacking body structure some flow. The one on the right looks very shapeless.
I would suggest you try to redraw the whole thing with your own underlines and builds rather than drawing and trying to correct over hers.
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I tried to tune up this piece too and yeah, its almost not worth saving, the most I was able to fix was the fingers, the chin, and the hoodie, but anatomically this drawing is so fucked up, im not an expert but that hand placement is so weird anyone with eyes can see that, not to mention but so many of the colors clash together, there's no contrast or value, I understand it was probably a simple sketch but there's no excuse for the drawing to look so messed up.
Yeah, the eyes especially are so wonky I would have probably constructed the whole face from the beginning instead of trying to save what was there.
But I think you did a good job on giving the body shape without the sweater looking like it's plastered on. It looks more natural now while still keeping a little curve that leads the eye through the drawing.
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it's not perfect, but i gave it a shot. i hate the alien heads that tearzah draws. i think they could be a really good artist if they didn't rely so heavily on stylization. i recall them answering an tumblr ask with something along the lines of "if it's personal, you don't have to improve your art" and… i guess? but she does commissions, so she should really care more about the quality of her art.
I’m surprised that I haven’t seen many art rant videos on this girl yet (since you know that’s a thing right now)
Like, not only is she distasteful as a person but her art seems like the same plastered piece over and over again, only coloured differently
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Just wanted to edit out the blush everywhere from the op
It's astonishing how removing the blush makes it look so much better. The extreme tumblr blushing looks always so tacky and gross. >>279301
What are you talking about? If your face was red like that you'd have a severe skin condition.
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The original reminds me of this
I can understand why people like either or, but to me the girl looks sick on the left but lifeless on the right.
(Totally laughed at the Steven comparison)
agreed. Not sure why the brows were changed.
Also removing blush also removed freckles.
I've seen the blush placements in manga art long before tumblr style. The only thing I hate of the blush concept is red noses, especially when in most tumblr art it's the only red part of the skin. The red nose in the original is a little OTT but I agree with the anon who said the blush removal makes the piece look much more lifeless by comparison.
I changed the brows because I thought her original expression didn't look all that happy
But yeah, that backfired and she does look lifeless in the edit
She's still kinda blushing but it's really faint because I lowered the opacity
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i wanted to remove the blush from her nose, and tone it down on her cheeks so it looks more natural. i removed almost all the blush from the rest of her, leaving only a tiny bit of color since some people do have slightly darker elbows/knees. though i don't think it's actually noticeable
That's still way too much blush for a normal face and Usagi doesn't have freckles.
Why it looks a bit better with super blush is because this artist has no idea how to make a face without that.
really? i thought it looked pretty natural. was probably the comparison between the original that made me think so. i don't think adding freckles is a big deal so i didn't bother removing them.>>279956
i didn't even notice that at first, but now i can't stop looking at her pigtail and how it lays completely flat when it should be falling off the pillow
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sorry for crossposting but here's my fix from the bad art thread
I’d like to give a heads up to all art anons we have made a official art thread in /meta/!
If you are interested in making some OC>>>/meta/6362
I was so convinced that the top was edited just so someone could try and say they edited something
But checked her Twitter and look and behold she really put that sketch out there looking like that fuckin lol
I think >>282896
would be okay for that sort of stuff
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when im bored, i redraw spechie for a nice no-effort ego boost (sans pants)
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I was bored
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bandwagoning. hope holly appreciates all the free fanart
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idk a sketchy beef boi idk
This one Is actually good! You could use some work on the stifness of the arm pose tho. But it is looking lovely overall
Is actually a blessing to see, since 99% of the remakes on thir thread look like shit, even worse than the original.
Love urselves and stop trying to showcase a skill you don't have anons. We don't need 2 shitty remakes to see
I guess is a matter of taste and being used to art then.
Because a lot of anons show to be amateurs trying to fix other people mistakes.
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I don't really draw dudes much, but I figured I'd give this a go for some practice.
The one on the left. It was like 5am here gimme a break lmao
It's late here and I can't tell if you're joking because
1) It was really obvious to me which one was the redraw- It's not great, but it's still an improvement over the vacuum-suctioned tits and the weird face
2) the original literally has spechie's name (faded) at the bottom from where the tweet banner thing was.
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Drew this a while ago, but forgot to post it.
Loads better than the original, only complaint is the chair seemed like an afterthought.
Also you negative anons need to chill tf out like this is something that is supposed to be fun and maybe pick up a trick or two.
eh, the main point of the thread is to one-up annoying artcows.
it's not really that out of step for anons to be snarky about people who can't really deliver.
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is better than >>305154
I like both of them! They are pretty great in their own right even if you can't tell the gender in the first one lol
They are nice break from farmers postingtheir half-assed doodles looking for undeserved asspats.
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You over-corrected Holly's mistakes. You show good understanding of volume in a 3D space, it just isn't appealing.
This is an interesting style, and I like it because he does appear male without looking like a completely different character.
Also the pose doesn't look super stiff like some other redraws.>>305299
Oooh anon you nailed it. The jacket I didn't mind too much but I didn't like the face and couldn't figure out why.
And yeah I guess it also makes it look like Reese put on like 20 pounds.
I'm the person who drew >>304817
None of the other posts in this thread are mine; I literally dropped the picture here and forgot about it until now.
I think all the criticism here is legitimate, especially the ones >>305299
outlines. My only disagreement is that I don't like how animu your revised face is. I'm not a manga artist- if you're going to critique me, do it based on normal human anatomy.
I agree that I drew his face a little too feminine and his legs too thick, as several anons observed. The mouth is a bit too wide, and the shading needs more contrast.
Thanks to everybody who gave actual critique, instead of just vaguely calling it "fuggly" (nice spelling, retard).>>305154
This one looks way more like a chick than mine. No human male over ten years old has proportions like this. Also, the lineart is sloppy and feathery as hell. Am I supposed to be impressed by this?
Having a preference for manga styles =/= observing an objective difference in skill. Yes, this one is cuter than mine, but it's less anatomically correct.>>305249
People mostly weren't "shitting on me", anon. I agree with the sentiment as it pertains to the site in general, though.>>306430
Might repost with a fixed face. I'm thinking I overworked the face.
nta but i think anons who try to defend themselves when they could just quietly slip away are fucking stupid.
is all over the place trying to act like she agrees with the critiques while still trying to defend her shit drawing and also being passive aggressive.
just a bad mix all around.
It's a good effort pose-wise and looks a lot more appealing, but it simply looks like a completely different character from the original and the jacket of that length should be spilling out a lot more from under him. >>305299
Anon here nailed the face a lot better while explaining why, in the original redraw it honestly looks like jeff goldblum from jurassic park.
Salty drawanon, just shut up and don't make yourself look more of a dumbass. Especially when you start throwing a tantrum about your work being ~more anatomically correct because it's "not manga"~ like a pretentious asshole. The source material is trying to imitate the manga bishie style so it's only justified to have the redraw fix that aspect too by making an actually attractive manga-styled hottie male. And still, the original character clearly has an angular face with slim features, your redraw has a gnome face.
Yeah, shit's getting way too infight-y- it just seems like everyone here has a chip on their shoulder.
To give you a gauge of how much of a shit thread this is, compare it to the cow redraw thread on Kiwifarms. There's a lot more art and a lot less bickering.
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Didn't draw the hair covering his chest.
Now THIS is the content I want to see itt.
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wanted to change the pose to something less bad
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i saw so many mistakes after posting it so i had to fix it
goddammit holly just use a reference for pecs they change when you lift your arms up reeee
not that anon but for example, where is the clavicle?
neither holly nor any anons has figured out nipple is on pec so arm up pec up nipple up.
It's funny because reese is such a disgusting subject in the first place, making him look good is probably beyond the abilities of a professional so good luck amateur anons lol
What I like about this redraw is how gestural it is. The twist really gives it life. You guys are being way too harsh to this person, as usual.>>309390
The clavicle is right where it should be? Look at the lines coming down from the deltoids, dumbass.
Also, are you implying that YOU'RE a professional?
I bet the most critical anons here are actually weebs who think they know more than they actually do and just want to trash artists better than them lmao
>>309634>Also, are you implying that YOU'RE a professional?
No? so fuck off
there isn't room for a clavicle because the shoulder is attached to the neck. I know it's supposed to be posed forward, but it's too far in.
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a harsh anon here. so i'm not an artist but all i mean is, shouldn't the arm be more like here? maybe i'm wrong
Theoretically it could be either, it looks more natural but less dynamic the way you have it.
However, you forgot to fix the clavicle in accordance with your editing. By which I mean you erased a chunk of the other artists and didn't draw in a new one.
Also if you're not an artist, please get out of this thread.
It's not bait. I was being serious.
Unless a piece a art is bad in a really obvious way, how the hell is someone with no art background going to know what to say? Is this not common sense?
Sure, on some level a non-artist can sense a problem with the piece, but with no knowledge of the discipline, they can't articulate the problem. I think this is why a few anons are just saying "this sucks," while other anons are able to talk about things like proportion, gesture, value, etc.
It's all well and good if you think a piece sucks, but it's not helpful. The most relevant information is the stuff that follows, "this sucks because
That's subjective, but for our intents and purposes, it's someone with at least a little bit of formal art education.
This is kind of the problem with art critiques on an anonymous board, because someone who couldn't draw a stick person could be blindly lecturing you about anatomy and you would never know.
so someone who's technically competent but self-taught isn't allowed to comment on this thread?
you do know this is an image board for gossip right?
Nah anon, it's just the uppity drawfags being salty because anons aren't head over heels praising their sugoi redraws so they MUST be people with no "formal art education". I swear the Holly thread has the worst influx of "I can do that better!!" anons who are just as amateurish and delusional as her.
Here's a protip - use redrawing as a way to point out flaws (such as by redlining the original or doing what anon here did >>305299
), not to shill your own shitty drawings.
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now i'm not saying this looks good. but vaguely human? in like two clicks. holly y u no
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stylization isn't always good, anon
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quick attempt to fix this…tried to keep holly's expression and general face shape so it's still butt ugly lmao
end result: cute
but i just really have a pet peeve when ppl try to "QUICK" fix holly's heart and just totally redraw it in their own style
holly's current style is more anime than anything, so stick to anime proportions ya know? geez
People can redraw in whatever style they want to so long as it looks good, you fucking weeb.
Anon's redraw was good. Sorry it wasn't kawaii sugoi animu enough for you.
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good job, nice pose! but always keep practicing, you'll be way better than holly
liquified in photoshop a little
meh to me, the face length dosent stand out as a problem to me? squashing it just makes it look more foreshortened/ younger
its the long neck/clavicle and the weird, not in perspective/sticking straight out from the cheek, plug ears AND maybe she could add more of the back part cranium cause it looks strangely flat back there
i was just saying that a "fix" should stick to the same area of stylization of the original for good context on how to improve og
its a cute redraw thoo
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ive adjusted to holly's art style so much that looking at the way she styles the face doesn't jar me as much as her bodies.
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liquify anon ere'
technically not much wrong but you could of used more of a gesture line cause it feels kinda like a unbalanced jenga tower. I just made him lil more straightened but i could've pushed the gesture more by: having him lean backwards OR having him arch back and push his tooch out
also just felt you made him a lil too buff, but that aint wrong its just character design.
>>316106>but i just really have a pet peeve when ppl try to "QUICK" fix holly's heart and just totally redraw it in their own style
this, anon here >>316104
just made a completely new character or aged the original for like 20 years. It's obvious the original character is pretty youthful looking with slicked, head-hugging hair with a very slight pompadour, why did anon just draw a 48-year old sitcom actor with a poofed daddy hair?
I'm also sick of people wahhing about "weebs" when they're being told that Holly is trying to imitate the anime bishie style (and failing horribly) and they probably should utilize that in their redlines/redraws but instead go for their own generic style, completely ignoring the source context because m-m-m-muh realism. Would you redraw a Simpsons fanart with flesh-colored skin too?
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>>316481>Would you redraw a Simpsons fanart with flesh-colored skin too?
People have literally done this countless times before, Anon. It's called artistic license.
Holly's style is garbage. There's no point in trying to adhere to it.
>>316505>holly art=garbage, no point adhering to it
this makes me frustrated, we're simply advocating for people to take into account the stylization when they fix art
redrawing in another style is just fan art and dosent help people learn what was wrong/what to fix with the original
redraws are fine and dandy here, i just dont like it when people are like "here! fixed!" because redraws are an entirely different piece just referencing the og
its like if i asked you to fix the leg of a desk and then you went and made me a brand new desk of a different design
thats cool! …but wheres my desk?
agree. this redraw thread is "her's how holly/whoever could fix her piece" not "here's my piece which is better."
If you like drawing her characters in your style, that's fanart and you should post it on instagram and tag her with the other fans doing that. (I note that if you look on her tagged tab on insta there are about 20 reese chair fanarts and only about two of them aren't better than the ones here)
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did a pretty true to definition redraw/trace over spechies bowestte piece that was obviously shit out judging by how lazy it is.
even though i did draw this in a pretty animu style i did try to make the general anatomy and style more appealing vs hers which looks very stiff and heavily referenced.
considering i directly traced over her art and managed to give somewhat better fluidity to the piece just means that spechie just really needs to focus on laying out better basic shapes (those spiky bands and shell lmao) and also pay attention to female anatomy more because how she does her females and males is the same to be honest.
its like she learned how to draw basic male body shape and head and just uses that for all her base art and it just gives all the females she draws an unfortunate aesthetic. her art would benefit a lot more if she stopped with the fucking useless painting studies and actually learned basic form and anatomy first because the way shes trying to get better at art will always leave her shit looking stiff and askew when she does any art that isnt heavily referenced and traced
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Redraw of Spechie's recent post. I think the demon was meant to be lit by neon lights? I drew one using the same colors and shading and one with more "realistic" neon lighting. (I'm also not happy with how the more complicated one turned out so please don't be too mean about it)
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attempted to fix a weird painting from the renaissance
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redrew spechie art. feel free to critique.
Not familiar with Spechie's art. Which one is hers?
Either way the right one is worse. It's a blurry mess, like someone went crazy with the Smudge tool.
>>324319>feel free to critique
I'll give some.
So the two most glaring issues of Spechie's piece on the left are her color selection and the hair. Her colors are too bright, it's painful to look at. Some bright colors are fine else all art would just be grey and lifeless, but every color she's selected is bright, and as a result they are not in harmony with each other. The other issue is the hair, which features too high a shine when compared to the rest of the piece. You would need very bright, harsh lighting to achieve such a high shine on the hair, and that lighting would give the face a similarly high-contrast look. Instead, the face has a more subtle contrast between its light and shade, and it makes it look like it has no connection to the hair.
Your piece fixes the color issues somewhat. The colors you've chosen don't hurt my eyes nearly as much, but because they are all similar values it also means that there's no point of color interest. I'd have made the eyes brigher to try and counteract this.
And as someone else pointed out, you really overdid it with the blending. The nose has a good level of definition, but the rest of the face and especially the hair is overblended to hell, making it feel like I'm looking at the image through glasses someone rubbed butter all over. I would allow more brush strokes and harder lines to exist within the piece to give definition, particularly to the darkest and lightest areas.
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Anon please post your fan art somewhere else. And I don't think it's supposed to be a girl.
The lean is so bad he's basically falling over. I widened the jaw, made the eyes smaller, moved the mouth higher, moved the shoulders a bit, and centered the neck and head.
ah, the classic "if u don't do art, u have no rite 2 criticize mine!"
you guys really are embarrassing. you aren't much better than the cows you shit on, especially not in the skill department.
Of course you can criticize art if you don't do art, anon. Don't be silly.
What's dumb is acting like using the lasso tool and moving bits of a drawing someone else did in Photoshop is superior to actually being able to redraw something.
Yeah this is much closer to a redraw than most stuff in this thread.>Similar style>Similar color scheme>Same expression>Same pose>Similar proportions but more realistic and appealing>More depth and detail but only to highlight the flaws of the original piece such as the angle of the spikes and the shape of the shell
This is also a pretty good example of a nice redraw that serves its purpose. >>324356>>324319
Anon I seriously had to wonder if this was a troll post and actually gotten from that godawful kiwifarms redraw thread. It's not even remotely similar to the original character or drawing.>Completely different expression>Completely different color scheme>Original one has way harsher shadows and lighting>The redraw has inferior anatomy and dynamic with the setting>The eye shape is droopy and sleepy-like in the original, completely different cat eye style in the redraw>Why am I even writing this list, it's a waste of my time
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Can't tell what it's supposed to be.
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I tried to fix anon's drawing, still looks like shit though.
Every time I see anons bitch about artist cows' skill level I think of this thread and how 4/5 redraws are just as bad as the original, just with different stylization choices. Paintovers like >>324563
or red lines are more than enough to point out flaws.
nta but do you know what fucking website you're on? if you wanted a borderline hugbox, you should've posted your shit art on another site.
how much you wanna bet all of the shitty artists itt who are crying about le meanies turn around and do the exact same shit to holly, spechie, etc.?
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>>324999>mostly artist who know what they're doing
and this is /ot/ not /snow/. we're allowed to make 'huehue yer art sux kys!!!!!1!1!111' comments all we want.
We all agree that a lot of cows' art sucks, but then if you're going to "fix" it after mocking it relentlessly, but it's not technically any better, you're just asking to get what you just dished out.
If it was just a "post your art!" thread and people were being really mean i would agree that it's too much, but it's literally supposed to be a thread where you post better art than the original.
It's like if you claimed you were thinner than some cow, then posted a pic, turns out you're just as fat or fatter, but then when called out you went "wtf i'm not trying to be a spoop or a supermodel!! you guys are mean!"
Like this is not the thread for respecting subjective taste. If it was, we wouldn't be mocking spechie or holly in the first place.
Nah /ic/ is still worse lmao
At least most anons here actually draw
maybe not sperging but people are taking everything too seriously
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is posting holly's art cheating at this point?
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found in the holly thread
I wanted to edit or redraw this but Holly's art is so jacked are can't figure out how to fix it without drastically changing the poses. Ash isn't looking at Hershel?? And is he bending down because it looks like he's standing straight? Ash is sitting down so is Hershel really short?
Holly's art melts my brain trying to figure out what's happening
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Found this on spechie's newest sprite
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I tried to redo it
I don't understand, please speak a clear language.
I didn't know that, that wasn't my name but the title of the image but, is there a way I can remove my e-mail?
You could improve by shrinking the neck and moving the face up a bit on the head. The eyes seems a bit too far apart. I think your doing the "fit 1 eye in between the eyes" thing which works for some things but you're should be a bit closer together.
It's obvious you know more than spechie art wise though.
Thanks, I appreciate it a lot.
Actually I didn't do the one eye thing but I will try and make eyes closer next time (although I used to make them way further apart, It is kinda a thing I'm into TBH).
Also correct, I have studied art to some extent. >>332016
I would like to defend myself and say that you got it the other way round, the original is closer to wikiHow, but if what you're saying is the case then you got some good wikiHow art, please share some.
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are you really gonna argue with someone's subjective take on your art? Accept that the asspats aren't coming and move on instead of making butthurt comments.
While I am NTA, I can see what they mean when they compare your drawing to wikihow art…
Also stop with the namefagging.
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The body and coloring is good and shows a better understanding of how clothes and bodies work than Spechie's, especially for what looks like a rough sketch, but the face could use some work. The neck is too long, eyes and mouth too low (she has no chin). I've attached a quick edit of the face to try and show what I mean.
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While looking at stuff on tapas to see how holly's stuff ranked I found this terrible series called "Where's My BL Story"
It's a gold mine of terrible