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No. 243983
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>>243951yes! finally this thread! I mean I like to see these rather than I want to do them, but I did amuse myself making this before. I'm not sure what to do about the horizon. Btw holly brown posted with the comment "yes i fucked up the perspective, here's an edit" (i think implying the perspective was supposed to be fixed)
No. 244018
File: 1524240522991.png (1.4 MB, 1280x1280, B9CA61E2-73BD-475D-A948-02AF91…)
Does anyone else get a kick out of art improvement pictures?
No. 244019
File: 1524240685587.jpeg (166.52 KB, 784x784, 2BCC0B36-3F6E-4191-ABD6-62E410…)
It makes me sad when there’s barely any improvement, though.
No. 244056
File: 1524252040320.png (123.73 KB, 556x572, 2A55E913-8FAA-4F9C-B787-D1A455…)
Nine years… damn.
No. 244077
>>243951lol i was shook seeing my redline as an OP image
ppl got so mad at it that i stopped posting in those threads
HB's stuff is so nonsensical that its v hard for artists to resist manually showing whats wrong w it instead of typing it out bullet by bullet point, glad u made a thread
No. 244096
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>>244077>>244077Yeah! I really appreciated that pic when I saw it because I’m not an artist so I don’t know why an art piece looks wrong, I just know it does.
This is another fav of mine from the Holly threads. If you put your hands to your face, your thumb is near your ear. Idk why she doesn’t just try these things before she draws them.
No. 244102
File: 1524267562481.png (757.18 KB, 1000x1000, spechie redraw half.png)
hey i drew something
No. 244106
File: 1524268168107.jpeg (391.05 KB, 1936x1452, F39F6619-18A3-430A-B0BD-27D027…)
>>244102Holy shit anon. That’s miles better. Made a quick side by side of Spechie’s original and yours.
No. 244263
File: 1524370096375.png (1.15 MB, 2000x1000, honestly why did I.png)
No. 244681
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>>244673I think by the time you're looking that far down, you have to start hinting at a third vanishing point at the bottom
No. 250236
File: 1526508205551.png (331.08 KB, 740x700, E7D9A120-F8AF-4319-8DB7-8A46F6…)
Redline spotted in the Holly thread
No. 250273
File: 1526522905233.png (757.64 KB, 1500x894, mercy_commission_by_spechie-dc…)
just tried to fix anatomy and use more vibrant colours etc, i didn't try to keep any of the details. still not worth $30 imo
No. 250286
File: 1526526616157.gif (466.8 KB, 982x1200, not_even_better_tbh.gif)
>>250236I messed with it in a beauty app just for laughs but it's still such garbage. Does Holly actually know what humans look like?
No. 250307
File: 1526532937189.png (235.46 KB, 1000x1250, 39.png)
No shading.
Critiques welcome.
No. 250325
>>250314… How is the shading wonky if there is no shading, though?
I do think the eyes are too big (even for animu, kinda like kanon or air) and the head is too small, though.
No. 250575
File: 1526614654146.png (930.57 KB, 2000x1000, mercy on us.png)
No. 250576
File: 1526614805688.jpg (2.06 MB, 4088x2348, redrawpt2.jpg)
how's this? the forehead just irked me.
No. 250595
File: 1526619389309.jpeg (1.47 MB, 2048x1024, 0C10B398-E1D6-4C95-9799-A6963B…)
Spechie’s art Facetuned.
No. 250604
File: 1526620774007.jpg (85.49 KB, 715x1117, chillin_by_spechie-daxe7x1.jpg)
>>250596I'm the facetune anon (which was just for fun), but I didn't do any of the others.
You can't stylize until you know the basics. Spechie has absolutely awful technical and stylistic skills. She doesn't understand basic anatomy, line work, lighting, coloring, ect. You can't go "oh but style" for any of that. Her work is shit. That's pretty much a universally agreed with opinion on this site (check the general art thread and her thread on snow). If you wanna disagree, you can, but just know most people are going to think your opinion is shit- because she's shit. If you honestly look at
>>250576 and think the left looks better than the right, then yikes. Idk what to say to that.
She can't draw a normal face, the alien bug-eyed with no chin look isn't an intentional style choice, its a lack of skill. The shitty line quality, unrefined edges, poorly rendered and detailed features, etc aren't a choice. They're cause she's baaaad. I never thought I'd see someone defend Spechie's "style" on here, its like defending Holly's. I'm kinda like just shocked.
But, regardless, this is a thread for fun. Contribute your own redraws, redlines, or revised work. Its fun.
(And kek at calling Spechie a "cartoonist." She's a shitty youtube "artist" who is just famous for her spergy rants and edgelord attitude.)
No. 250625
>>250604I dont care about or know of any of these artists. in my field it just grinds my gears when laymen try to criticize modern work when you have absolutely no tools to do that.
she doodles story cartoons. shes not studying from roberto ferri's atelier as a neo-baroque painter, or designing for a functional use, these people are delusional at worst or just doing casual digital outsider works on her non monetized channel, which you'd specifically need go out of your way to see any mention of. shes telling personal stories with doodles because she likes to.
every "fix" in this thread is objectively and equally "bad", with no potential for improvement. you'd need to construct an entirely new original foundation using hundreds of 3-dimensional geometric shapes from the perspective point(s). you cant just warp or blend over it and say its better on those arbitrarily chosen points because you made it look smooth and flat or put things into "place". you're not "correcting" it. you're doing things you personally like which look just as bad.
No. 250627
File: 1526628388588.jpeg (641.02 KB, 1080x566, 6C654574-D635-4F7A-94F4-918EF8…)
>>250625This isn’t the vent or unpopular opinion thread. People are having fun. And there’s no way you can look at these side by sides and say they’re “objectively” just as bad.
>>244106>>244263>>244106>>250307>>250576>>250595Sorry the thread struck a nerve with you cause of your job, but that doesn’t mean anons’ works are bad.
>laymen try to criticize modern work>modern workKek. So far it’s been fucking Holly and Spechie. You projecting?
>shes telling personal stories with doodles because she likes to. That’s nice. Good for her. She’s still a whiney cow with no talent.
>you'd need to construct an entirely new original foundation using hundreds of 3-dimensional geometric shapes from the perspective point(s).Kek what?
>say its better on those arbitrarily chosen points because you made it look smooth and flat or put things into "place". Anatomy don’t real. Only geometric shapes and “style”
Why so
triggered, anon? You’re the only cringey one here. Everyone else is just having fun and fucking about with art. What “field” are you even in where you think Spechie/Holly’s work is “objectively” just as good as the edits? And even if everyone’s work is just based on what they personally like, who fucking cares? Why does it bother you that they’re playing around with art and what they like? It’s not that serious.
I played around in Facetune again for like five minutes. Hope it doesn’t
trigger you again.
No. 250735
File: 1526672968408.jpeg (3.22 MB, 1536x2048, 439298F3-782C-4822-AF3B-51FAF8…)
This Facetune bullshit is so fun and quick. I can see why Istebrak has built a career on fucking about with other people’s work. It’s pretty satisfying, even if the end result is still shit. Found this pic on ugly art thread.
No. 250809
>>250808why are you so
triggered by someone calling you istebrak? tbh her facial anatomy is way better than yours
No. 250810
>>250809Hopefully she’s much much better. I’m not an artist, and that’s her job. How am I
triggered? I’m just baffled that you’re so mad I fucked around in a free beauty app. Why does it bother you so much? I’m not mad or hurt that some anon is sperging out over my five minute facetunes. It was for fun. I encourage you to try it yourself, as mine are so shit and you know much better, and cause it’s actually really satisfying and fun (like I’ve said over and over).
No. 252809
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>>250810Are you MAD im not MAD are you really
TRIGGERED trollface No. 256061
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Ik it’s still jacked but you know what they say about polishing a turd lmao
>first is “hc BRowns
>second is trying to warp
>impossible, decide to paint over and fix mood and poses
Tfw your art is so bad not even photoshop can fix it
No. 256064
>>252809this isn't much of an improvement, it looks just as bad but in a different way.
>>2560612nd one definitely looks better than the other two, but why did you give them tits?
No. 256078
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Last one
>first is spechie>second is warping it>third is paint overSpechie reminds me of half the weeb art kids I went to school with, awful
>>256064Lmao they’re meant to be pecs, but it’s such a shit angle that it makes the whole thing look off, idk I hate when men’s chests are draw super flat it just bugs me
No. 256079
File: 1528084825470.png (1.21 MB, 573x1761, C90B9D84-24CC-4CA4-8CCD-A0F262…)
>>256078Whoops, wrong image
No. 256083
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>>256079>>256078It looks way worse lmao, reminds me of something you'd find in the "girls like us" tag on tunglr
No. 256084
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>>256079>>256078congratulations it's somehow worse
reminds me of pic related
No. 256086
>>256081Thanks, Mind telling me why exactly you think so?
>>256083It is spechie after all, she already looks like one, but I guess I like them caterpillar eyebrows so there’s that
>>256084Haha sims is a big inspiration of mine, how’d ya know?
No. 256091
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>>256086It's more than just the eyebrows, gorl… The only thing that looks okay is the nose, literally everything else is giving me awkward, uncanny valley wikihow troon selfie that was taken with the DSi camera and edited in the emoter lens + meitu
No. 256092
>>256061The hair in the last one is so satisfying compared to her clusterfuck hair styles.
>>256079Hey yeah so you need to work on your edges. The hair doesn’t have any weight or structure. And you also need to work on facial anatomy. The issues from the first are still there (strange eyes, awkward chin, etc) but then you added some like the strange lip expression and tiny teeth. I do like how you’ve colored the cheeks. Work on refining your edges, like making them more concrete and not so blurry and vague.
No. 256132
File: 1528104529438.png (1.34 MB, 573x2428, lmao.png)
>>256096i done one
pls let this become a meme
No. 256134
>>256132sorry about how unfinished/messy everything is. This is all I had time to do, but i'm petty af and will jump at any chance to overdraw for the keks
>mfw her neck is still not connected to her head correctly just like spechies version a true homage
No. 256135
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>>256132Damn your a great artist but you basically destroyed that dumpster fire of original artwork and created your own that bares a vague resemblance to the original trash and replicated trash.
Your art kind of reminds me of a mix between steins gate and the letter visual novels.
No. 256139
>>256135thank you anon!
I'm new to artfagging on this site but i'll try do some more things in threads like these
No. 256152
File: 1528111641820.png (1.99 MB, 573x2998, xYBhg6F.png)
>>256132i deleted my post to add to this lmao sorry it's scribbly garbage
No. 256154
>>256152yay i like your style frien
>>256148i find photoshop is all i need, if i'm doing linework then clip studio. I actually don't use this style much, I'm more a fan on textured brushes and ps handles them really well
No. 256240
File: 1528141904144.jpg (1000.16 KB, 2000x2000, ohwell.jpg)
i didnt bother putting it into the row, but i tried my hand at redrawing the spechie pic. white bg bcuz lazy.
No. 256255
File: 1528146785007.jpg (1.86 MB, 573x4173, 1528111641820.jpg)
>>256240Added yours. I like the expression.
>>256152>>256132These are pretty sweet too.
No. 256646
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A different flavour of Spechie.
Does this even count as a redraw at this point
No. 256676
File: 1528269512856.png (2.6 MB, 573x4795, updated.png)
>>256255This seemed fun so I did one too, it was an awesome practice sketch before work, so thanks.
No. 256678
>>256676Um you missed the best one
>>256646Include it and it’s perf.
>>256655Cause is funny. And interesting. And shows how awful her “style” is. Shhh. Don’t question brilliance
No. 256679
File: 1528270526074.png (3.06 MB, 573x5356, wwww.png)
>>256678Ah sorry I wasn't the person who started to collect these so I hadn't thought about adding the others
Here fixed it!
No. 256689
>>256680thanks I’m glad you like it!
And I do but I’m really unsure about sharing it on lolcow of all places
No. 260638
File: 1529297052140.jpg (1014.15 KB, 2000x1000, redraw3.jpg)
redrew her cherry because it sucked ass :) critiques welcome, just tried to stay on model.
No. 260668
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>>260667I think it’d help if you pushed her thighs further apart and also made it more stylized like attached pic
No. 261475
File: 1529611601013.jpg (177.24 KB, 560x306, Capture22.jpg)
redraw on the right. sorry that its so messy my pen pressure was not working at all last night. made the hoodie not airtight and tried to fix the hands best i could
No. 261513
>>261475tbh Im also always
triggered in animes when any kind of shirt is airtight on the breasts and chest. Like thats not how clothing works ffs. not even latex clothing.
No. 261550
>>261475Style wise I think the airtight clothing looks better. It's not logical, but gives her otherwise very lacking body structure some flow. The one on the right looks very shapeless.
I would suggest you try to redraw the whole thing with your own underlines and builds rather than drawing and trying to correct over hers.
No. 261920
File: 1529693974769.png (220.43 KB, 585x306, oml.png)
>>261475I tried to tune up this piece too and yeah, its almost not worth saving, the most I was able to fix was the fingers, the chin, and the hoodie, but anatomically this drawing is so fucked up, im not an expert but that hand placement is so weird anyone with eyes can see that, not to mention but so many of the colors clash together, there's no contrast or value, I understand it was probably a simple sketch but there's no excuse for the drawing to look so messed up.
No. 261924
>>261920Yeah, the eyes especially are so wonky I would have probably constructed the whole face from the beginning instead of trying to save what was there.
But I think you did a good job on giving the body shape without the sweater looking like it's plastered on. It looks more natural now while still keeping a little curve that leads the eye through the drawing.
No. 277012
File: 1533610270671.png (1.1 MB, 1339x844, 32435.png)
it's not perfect, but i gave it a shot. i hate the alien heads that tearzah draws. i think they could be a really good artist if they didn't rely so heavily on stylization. i recall them answering an tumblr ask with something along the lines of "if it's personal, you don't have to improve your art" and… i guess? but she does commissions, so she should really care more about the quality of her art.
No. 277202
>>277012I’m surprised that I haven’t seen many art rant videos on this girl yet (since you know that’s a thing right now)
Like, not only is she distasteful as a person but her art seems like the same plastered piece over and over again, only coloured differently
No. 279298
File: 1534053697153.png (4.8 MB, 3588x2542, 1534052295841.png)
>>278591Just wanted to edit out the blush everywhere from the op
No. 279311
>>279298It's astonishing how removing the blush makes it look so much better. The extreme tumblr blushing looks always so tacky and gross.
>>279301What are you talking about? If your face was red like that you'd have a severe skin condition.
No. 279315
File: 1534066206314.png (503.34 KB, 1280x720, Upclosepollen.png)
>>279298The original reminds me of this
No. 279587
>>279298I can understand why people like either or, but to me the girl looks sick on the left but lifeless on the right.
(Totally laughed at the Steven comparison)
No. 279748
>>279299agreed. Not sure why the brows were changed.
Also removing blush also removed freckles.
I've seen the blush placements in manga art long before tumblr style. The only thing I hate of the blush concept is red noses, especially when in most tumblr art it's the only red part of the skin. The red nose in the original is a little OTT but I agree with the anon who said the blush removal makes the piece look much more lifeless by comparison.
No. 279753
>>279748I changed the brows because I thought her original expression didn't look all that happy
But yeah, that backfired and she does look lifeless in the edit
She's still kinda blushing but it's really faint because I lowered the opacity
No. 279951
File: 1534203115846.png (4.82 MB, 3588x2542, Illustration.png)
>>279298i wanted to remove the blush from her nose, and tone it down on her cheeks so it looks more natural. i removed almost all the blush from the rest of her, leaving only a tiny bit of color since some people do have slightly darker elbows/knees. though i don't think it's actually noticeable
No. 279954
>>279951That's still way too much blush for a normal face and Usagi doesn't have freckles.
Why it looks a bit better with super blush is because this artist has no idea how to make a face without that.
No. 279967
>>279954really? i thought it looked pretty natural. was probably the comparison between the original that made me think so. i don't think adding freckles is a big deal so i didn't bother removing them.
>>279956i didn't even notice that at first, but now i can't stop looking at her pigtail and how it lays completely flat when it should be falling off the pillow
No. 283843
File: 1534892314618.jpg (67.45 KB, 486x538, topbeforebottomafter.jpg)
sorry for crossposting but here's my fix from the bad art thread
No. 283944
I’d like to give a heads up to all art anons we have made a official art thread in /meta/!
If you are interested in making some OC
>>>/meta/6362 No. 284757
>>284089I was so convinced that the top was edited just so someone could try and say they edited something
But checked her Twitter and look and behold she really put that sketch out there looking like that fuckin lol
No. 286376
>>286248I think
>>282896 would be okay for that sort of stuff
No. 296889
File: 1537227422683.jpg (267.6 KB, 737x559, fuck.jpg)
when im bored, i redraw spechie for a nice no-effort ego boost (sans pants)
No. 296925
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I was bored
No. 296966
File: 1537245356590.png (1.16 MB, 2200x1100, holly redraw reese.png)
>>296925bandwagoning. hope holly appreciates all the free fanart
No. 297025
File: 1537260273142.png (2.03 MB, 2000x1954, another holly reese redraw.png)
idk a sketchy beef boi idk
No. 297239
>>297025This one Is actually good! You could use some work on the stifness of the arm pose tho. But it is looking lovely overall
Is actually a blessing to see, since 99% of the remakes on thir thread look like shit, even worse than the original.
Love urselves and stop trying to showcase a skill you don't have anons. We don't need 2 shitty remakes to see
No. 297263
>>297259I guess is a matter of taste and being used to art then.
Because a lot of anons show to be amateurs trying to fix other people mistakes.
No. 299875
File: 1537852776555.png (498.35 KB, 911x510, lazy redraw.png)
>>250627I don't really draw dudes much, but I figured I'd give this a go for some practice.
No. 300682
>>300550ha ha
The one on the left. It was like 5am here gimme a break lmao
No. 300690
>>300550It's late here and I can't tell if you're joking because
1) It was really obvious to me which one was the redraw- It's not great, but it's still an improvement over the vacuum-suctioned tits and the weird face
2) the original literally has spechie's name (faded) at the bottom from where the tweet banner thing was.
No. 304817
File: 1538623355287.png (1.12 MB, 1843x2000, chair guy.png)
Drew this a while ago, but forgot to post it.
No. 304954
>>304817Loads better than the original, only complaint is the chair seemed like an afterthought.
Also you negative anons need to chill tf out like this is something that is supposed to be fun and maybe pick up a trick or two.
No. 304965
>>304963eh, the main point of the thread is to one-up annoying artcows.
it's not really that out of step for anons to be snarky about people who can't really deliver.
No. 305154
File: 1538694707013.png (328.86 KB, 1000x775, holly redraw reese chair.png)
Happy Hoctober?
No. 305272
>>304817 is better than
>>305154 yall
No. 305290
>>305272I like both of them! They are pretty great in their own right even if you can't tell the gender in the first one lol
They are nice break from farmers postingtheir half-assed doodles looking for undeserved asspats.
No. 305299
File: 1538744097833.png (2.1 MB, 1843x2000, holly brown reese critique.png)
>>304817You over-corrected Holly's mistakes. You show good understanding of volume in a 3D space, it just isn't appealing.
No. 306430
>>305154This is an interesting style, and I like it because he does appear male without looking like a completely different character.
Also the pose doesn't look super stiff like some other redraws.
>>305299Oooh anon you nailed it. The jacket I didn't mind too much but I didn't like the face and couldn't figure out why.
And yeah I guess it also makes it look like Reese put on like 20 pounds.
No. 307820
I'm the person who drew
>>304817None of the other posts in this thread are mine; I literally dropped the picture here and forgot about it until now.
I think all the criticism here is legitimate, especially the ones
>>305299 outlines. My only disagreement is that I don't like how animu your revised face is. I'm not a manga artist- if you're going to critique me, do it based on normal human anatomy.
I agree that I drew his face a little too feminine and his legs too thick, as several anons observed. The mouth is a bit too wide, and the shading needs more contrast.
Thanks to everybody who gave actual critique, instead of just vaguely calling it "fuggly" (nice spelling, retard).
>>305154This one looks way more like a chick than mine. No human male over ten years old has proportions like this. Also, the lineart is sloppy and feathery as hell. Am I supposed to be impressed by this?
Having a preference for manga styles =/= observing an objective difference in skill. Yes, this one is cuter than mine, but it's less anatomically correct.
>>305249People mostly weren't "shitting on me", anon. I agree with the sentiment as it pertains to the site in general, though.
>>306430Might repost with a fixed face. I'm thinking I overworked the face.
No. 307857
>>307824nta but i think anons who try to defend themselves when they could just quietly slip away are fucking stupid.
plus
>>307820 is all over the place trying to act like she agrees with the critiques while still trying to defend her shit drawing and also being passive aggressive.
just a bad mix all around.
No. 307861
>>304817It's a good effort pose-wise and looks a lot more appealing, but it simply looks like a completely different character from the original and the jacket of that length should be spilling out a lot more from under him.
>>305299 Anon here nailed the face a lot better while explaining why, in the original redraw it honestly looks like jeff goldblum from jurassic park.
No. 307864
>>307857This.
>>307820Salty drawanon, just shut up and don't make yourself look more of a dumbass. Especially when you start throwing a tantrum about your work being ~more anatomically correct because it's "not manga"~ like a pretentious asshole. The source material is trying to imitate the manga bishie style so it's only justified to have the redraw fix that aspect too by making an actually attractive manga-styled hottie male. And still, the original character clearly has an angular face with slim features, your redraw has a gnome face.
No. 307876
>>307871Yeah, shit's getting way too infight-y- it just seems like everyone here has a chip on their shoulder.
To give you a gauge of how much of a shit thread this is, compare it to the cow redraw thread on Kiwifarms. There's a lot more art and a lot less bickering.
No. 308497
File: 1539342577428.png (421.59 KB, 1250x600, reese redraw upgrade 2.0.png)
Critiques welcome.
Didn't draw the hair covering his chest.
No. 308521
>>308509Now THIS is the content I want to see itt.
10/10 anon-chan
No. 309374
File: 1539487769140.png (277.95 KB, 1037x690, 98ff5ab08b9ae293c846f8d0bf1b73…)
wanted to change the pose to something less bad
No. 309380
File: 1539491883575.png (277.43 KB, 1026x639, a675ed8b07998ce36877887f041d2b…)
>>309378i saw so many mistakes after posting it so i had to fix it
goddammit holly just use a reference for pecs they change when you lift your arms up reeee
No. 309390
>>309386not that anon but for example, where is the clavicle?
neither holly nor any anons has figured out nipple is on pec so arm up pec up nipple up.
It's funny because reese is such a disgusting subject in the first place, making him look good is probably beyond the abilities of a professional so good luck amateur anons lol
No. 309634
>>309374>>309380What I like about this redraw is how gestural it is. The twist really gives it life. You guys are being way too harsh to this person, as usual.
>>309390The clavicle is right where it should be? Look at the lines coming down from the deltoids, dumbass.
Also, are you implying that YOU'RE a professional?
I bet the most critical anons here are actually weebs who think they know more than they actually do and just want to trash artists better than them lmao
No. 309744
>>309634>Also, are you implying that YOU'RE a professional?No? so fuck off
there isn't room for a clavicle because the shoulder is attached to the neck. I know it's supposed to be posed forward, but it's too far in.
No. 309782
File: 1539566836957.png (84.71 KB, 514x670, ddd.png)
>>309769a harsh anon here. so i'm not an artist but all i mean is, shouldn't the arm be more like here? maybe i'm wrong
No. 309919
>>309782Theoretically it could be either, it looks more natural but less dynamic the way you have it.
However, you forgot to fix the clavicle in accordance with your editing. By which I mean you erased a chunk of the other artists and didn't draw in a new one.
Also if you're not an artist, please get out of this thread.
No. 310284
>>310259It's not bait. I was being serious.
Unless a piece a art is bad in a really obvious way, how the hell is someone with no art background going to know what to say? Is this not common sense?
Sure, on some level a non-artist can sense a problem with the piece, but with no knowledge of the discipline, they can't articulate the problem. I think this is why a few anons are just saying "this sucks," while other anons are able to talk about things like proportion, gesture, value, etc.
It's all well and good if you think a piece sucks, but it's not helpful. The most relevant information is the stuff that follows, "this sucks
because".
No. 310313
>>310303That's subjective, but for our intents and purposes, it's someone with at least a little bit of formal art education.
This is kind of the problem with art critiques on an anonymous board, because someone who couldn't draw a stick person could be blindly lecturing you about anatomy and you would never know.
No. 310318
>>310313so someone who's technically competent but self-taught isn't allowed to comment on this thread?
you do know this is an image board for gossip right?
No. 310452
>>310318Nah anon, it's just the uppity drawfags being salty because anons aren't head over heels praising their sugoi redraws so they MUST be people with no "formal art education". I swear the Holly thread has the worst influx of "I can do that better!!" anons who are just as amateurish and delusional as her.
Here's a protip - use redrawing as a way to point out flaws (such as by redlining the original or doing what anon here did
>>305299 ), not to shill your own shitty drawings.
No. 313250
File: 1540003363181.png (46.89 KB, 566x297, stillgay.png)
now i'm not saying this looks good. but vaguely human? in like two clicks. holly y u no
No. 313457
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>>313422stylization isn't always good, anon
No. 316104
File: 1540453850357.png (172.29 KB, 600x639, uhh.png)
>>313250quick attempt to fix this…tried to keep holly's expression and general face shape so it's still butt ugly lmao
No. 316106
>>316104end result: cute
but i just really have a pet peeve when ppl try to "QUICK" fix holly's heart and just totally redraw it in their own style
holly's current style is more anime than anything, so stick to anime proportions ya know? geez
No. 316109
>>316106People can redraw in whatever style they want to so long as it looks good, you fucking weeb.
Anon's redraw was good. Sorry it wasn't kawaii sugoi animu enough for you.
No. 316112
File: 1540457571053.jpg (429.52 KB, 1026x1264, liquify.jpg)
>>309380good job, nice pose! but always keep practicing, you'll be way better than holly
liquified in photoshop a little
No. 316114
>>313250meh to me, the face length dosent stand out as a problem to me? squashing it just makes it look more foreshortened/ younger
its the long neck/clavicle and the weird, not in perspective/sticking straight out from the cheek, plug ears AND maybe she could add more of the back part cranium cause it looks strangely flat back there
No. 316117
>>316116i was just saying that a "fix" should stick to the same area of stylization of the original for good context on how to improve og
its a cute redraw thoo
No. 316119
File: 1540459606218.jpg (91.94 KB, 566x297, liquify2.jpg)
>>313250ive adjusted to holly's art style so much that looking at the way she styles the face doesn't jar me as much as her bodies.
No. 316126
File: 1540461955674.gif (1.69 MB, 330x280, anigif_enhanced-buzz-19058-134…)
>>309386liquify anon ere'
technically not much wrong but you could of used more of a gesture line cause it feels kinda like a unbalanced jenga tower. I just made him lil more straightened but i could've pushed the gesture more by: having him lean backwards OR having him arch back and push his tooch out
also just felt you made him a lil too buff, but that aint wrong its just character design.
No. 316481
>>316106>but i just really have a pet peeve when ppl try to "QUICK" fix holly's heart and just totally redraw it in their own stylethis, anon here
>>316104 just made a completely new character or aged the original for like 20 years. It's obvious the original character is pretty youthful looking with slicked, head-hugging hair with a very slight pompadour, why did anon just draw a 48-year old sitcom actor with a poofed daddy hair?
I'm also sick of people wahhing about "weebs" when they're being told that Holly is trying to imitate the anime bishie style (and failing horribly) and they probably should utilize that in their redlines/redraws but instead go for their own generic style, completely ignoring the source context because m-m-m-muh realism. Would you redraw a Simpsons fanart with flesh-colored skin too?
No. 316505
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>>316481>Would you redraw a Simpsons fanart with flesh-colored skin too?People have literally done this countless times before, Anon. It's called artistic license.
Holly's style is garbage. There's no point in trying to adhere to it.
No. 316509
>>316505>holly art=garbage, no point adhering to itthis makes me frustrated, we're simply advocating for people to take into account the stylization when they fix art
redrawing in another style is just fan art and dosent help people learn what was wrong/what to fix with the original
redraws are fine and dandy here, i just dont like it when people are like "here! fixed!" because redraws are an entirely different piece just referencing the og
capsice?
its like if i asked you to fix the leg of a desk and then you went and made me a brand new desk of a different design
thats cool! …but wheres my desk?
No. 316516
>>316509agree. this redraw thread is "her's how holly/whoever could fix her piece" not "here's my piece which is better."
If you like drawing her characters in your style, that's fanart and you should post it on instagram and tag her with the other fans doing that. (I note that if you look on her tagged tab on insta there are about 20 reese chair fanarts and only about two of them aren't better than the ones here)
No. 320180
File: 1541326178372.png (1.06 MB, 2000x1200, mansette.png)
did a pretty true to definition redraw/trace over spechies bowestte piece that was obviously shit out judging by how lazy it is.
even though i did draw this in a pretty animu style i did try to make the general anatomy and style more appealing vs hers which looks very stiff and heavily referenced.
considering i directly traced over her art and managed to give somewhat better fluidity to the piece just means that spechie just really needs to focus on laying out better basic shapes (those spiky bands and shell lmao) and also pay attention to female anatomy more because how she does her females and males is the same to be honest.
its like she learned how to draw basic male body shape and head and just uses that for all her base art and it just gives all the females she draws an unfortunate aesthetic. her art would benefit a lot more if she stopped with the fucking useless painting studies and actually learned basic form and anatomy first because the way shes trying to get better at art will always leave her shit looking stiff and askew when she does any art that isnt heavily referenced and traced
No. 324254
File: 1542107799045.png (1.05 MB, 2640x852, Screenshot (17).png)
Redraw of Spechie's recent post. I think the demon was meant to be lit by neon lights? I drew one using the same colors and shading and one with more "realistic" neon lighting. (I'm also not happy with how the more complicated one turned out so please don't be too mean about it)
No. 324306
File: 1542118109509.jpg (1.02 MB, 1740x1080, Untitled271.jpg)
attempted to fix a weird painting from the renaissance
No. 324319
File: 1542121408975.jpg (126.67 KB, 1024x576, Untitled272.jpg)
redrew spechie art. feel free to critique.
No. 324323
>>324319Not familiar with Spechie's art. Which one is hers?
Either way the right one is worse. It's a blurry mess, like someone went crazy with the Smudge tool.
No. 324343
>>324319>feel free to critiqueI'll give some.
So the two most glaring issues of Spechie's piece on the left are her color selection and the hair. Her colors are too bright, it's painful to look at. Some bright colors are fine else all art would just be grey and lifeless, but every color she's selected is bright, and as a result they are not in harmony with each other. The other issue is the hair, which features too high a shine when compared to the rest of the piece. You would need very bright, harsh lighting to achieve such a high shine on the hair, and that lighting would give the face a similarly high-contrast look. Instead, the face has a more subtle contrast between its light and shade, and it makes it look like it has no connection to the hair.
Your piece fixes the color issues somewhat. The colors you've chosen don't hurt my eyes nearly as much, but because they are all similar values it also means that there's no point of color interest. I'd have made the eyes brigher to try and counteract this.
And as someone else pointed out, you really overdid it with the blending. The nose has a good level of definition, but the rest of the face and especially the hair is overblended to hell, making it feel like I'm looking at the image through glasses someone rubbed butter all over. I would allow more brush strokes and harder lines to exist within the piece to give definition, particularly to the darkest and lightest areas.
No. 324356
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>>324254Anon please post your fan art somewhere else. And I don't think it's supposed to be a girl.
The lean is so bad he's basically falling over. I widened the jaw, made the eyes smaller, moved the mouth higher, moved the shoulders a bit, and centered the neck and head.
No. 324387
>>324385ah, the classic "if u don't do art, u have no rite 2 criticize mine!"
you guys really are embarrassing. you aren't much better than the cows you shit on, especially not in the skill department.
No. 324390
>>324387Of course you can criticize art if you don't do art, anon. Don't be silly.
What's dumb is acting like using the lasso tool and moving bits of a drawing someone else did in Photoshop is superior to actually being able to redraw something.
No. 324516
>>320180Yeah this is much closer to a redraw than most stuff in this thread.
>Similar style>Similar color scheme>Same expression>Same pose>Similar proportions but more realistic and appealing>More depth and detail but only to highlight the flaws of the original piece such as the angle of the spikes and the shape of the shellThis is also a pretty good example of a nice redraw that serves its purpose.
>>324356>>324319Anon I seriously had to wonder if this was a troll post and actually gotten from that godawful kiwifarms redraw thread. It's not even remotely similar to the original character or drawing.
>Completely different expression>Completely different color scheme>Original one has way harsher shadows and lighting>The redraw has inferior anatomy and dynamic with the setting>The eye shape is droopy and sleepy-like in the original, completely different cat eye style in the redraw>Why am I even writing this list, it's a waste of my time No. 324563
File: 1542146488515.png (571.24 KB, 1024x576, spechie redraw blue.png)
No. 324702
File: 1542179275039.png (663.35 KB, 3000x758, spechie redraw purple.png)
Can't tell what it's supposed to be.
No. 324747
File: 1542200643417.jpg (110.48 KB, 576x1024, Untitled274.jpg)
I tried to fix anon's drawing, still looks like shit though.
No. 324753
Every time I see anons bitch about artist cows' skill level I think of this thread and how 4/5 redraws are just as bad as the original, just with different stylization choices. Paintovers like
>>324563 or red lines are more than enough to point out flaws.
No. 324982
>>324964nta but do you know what fucking website you're on? if you wanted a borderline hugbox, you should've posted your shit art on another site.
how much you wanna bet all of the shitty artists itt who are crying about le meanies turn around and do the exact same shit to holly, spechie, etc.?
No. 325048
File: 1542238898106.png (5.02 MB, 2273x1702, ''mostly artist''.png)
>>324999>mostly artist who know what they're doinganon pls
and this is /ot/ not /snow/. we're allowed to make 'huehue yer art sux kys!!!!!1!1!111' comments all we want.
No. 325614
>>325548We all agree that a lot of cows' art sucks, but then if you're going to "fix" it after mocking it relentlessly, but it's not technically any better, you're just asking to get what you just dished out.
If it was just a "post your art!" thread and people were being really mean i would agree that it's too much, but it's literally supposed to be a thread where you post better art than the original.
It's like if you claimed you were thinner than some cow, then posted a pic, turns out you're just as fat or fatter, but then when called out you went "wtf i'm not trying to be a spoop or a supermodel!! you guys are mean!"
Like this is not the thread for respecting subjective taste. If it was, we wouldn't be mocking spechie or holly in the first place.
No. 326062
>>326060Nah /ic/ is still worse lmao
At least most anons here actually draw
No. 326147
>>326144i disagree
>>325655>>324743>>324421maybe not sperging but people are taking everything too seriously
No. 326369
File: 1542455048848.png (493.69 KB, 940x708, holly.png)
is posting holly's art cheating at this point?
No. 327376
File: 1542657474457.png (184.88 KB, 446x394, 1542623004474.png)
found in the holly thread
No. 329108
>>327376I wanted to edit or redraw this but Holly's art is so jacked are can't figure out how to fix it without drastically changing the poses. Ash isn't looking at Hershel?? And is he bending down because it looks like he's standing straight? Ash is sitting down so is Hershel really short?
Holly's art melts my brain trying to figure out what's happening
No. 331493
File: 1543514202663.jpg (213.94 KB, 815x459, sp.thumb.jpg.af7efb5273554b72b…)
Found this on spechie's newest sprite
No. 331560
File: 1543524907487.jpg (234.18 KB, 815x459, lamegreen.jpg)
I tried to redo it
No. 331567
>>331563I don't understand, please speak a clear language.
thanks,xx
No. 331576
>>331574>>331574I didn't know that, that wasn't my name but the title of the image but, is there a way I can remove my e-mail?
thanks.
T
No. 331977
>>331560You could improve by shrinking the neck and moving the face up a bit on the head. The eyes seems a bit too far apart. I think your doing the "fit 1 eye in between the eyes" thing which works for some things but you're should be a bit closer together.
It's obvious you know more than spechie art wise though.
No. 332022
>>243951>>331977Thanks, I appreciate it a lot.
Actually I didn't do the one eye thing but I will try and make eyes closer next time (although I used to make them way further apart, It is kinda a thing I'm into TBH).
Also correct, I have studied art to some extent.
>>332016I would like to defend myself and say that you got it the other way round, the original is closer to wikiHow, but if what you're saying is the case then you got some good wikiHow art, please share some.
No. 332026
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>>332022are you really gonna argue with someone's subjective take on your art? Accept that the asspats aren't coming and move on instead of making butthurt comments.
While I am NTA, I can see what they mean when they compare your drawing to wikihow art…
Also stop with the namefagging.
No. 332035
File: 1543610518863.png (438.59 KB, 892x492, reedit.png)
>>331560The body and coloring is good and shows a better understanding of how clothes and bodies work than Spechie's, especially for what looks like a rough sketch, but the face could use some work. The neck is too long, eyes and mouth too low (she has no chin). I've attached a quick edit of the face to try and show what I mean.
No. 335752
File: 1544209963608.png (228.96 KB, 634x952, what.png)
While looking at stuff on tapas to see how holly's stuff ranked I found this terrible series called "Where's My BL Story"
It's a gold mine of terrible
No. 343469
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This was on the front page of dA. The face bothered me so I tried a 5 minute edit. Made the nose 10% bigger, resized the far eye by 5% and moved eyebrow closer to the bridge.
No. 346871
File: 1546277519028.png (249.54 KB, 638x675, fix.png)
Tried fixing last version of
>>346661 They would be pretty cute, if their heads weren't that big tbh + lips too low
No. 371542
>>371451Why did you use the skin brush in the hair?
Pretty good besides that.
No. 375347
File: 1550437633180.png (1.41 MB, 2228x1466, zelda fixed.png)
sloppy editing but I wanted to try and fix
>>375164 because I felt like it was… almost good?
No. 375359
>>371584I'm assuming they mean the texture/bits in the hair when hair should be smooth looking
Good fix though I agree
No. 375543
File: 1550463544837.png (1000.56 KB, 1331x1024, 2017.08.20.png)
I wanted to redraw the same picture because the whole picture for me was so awkward
im not a true zelda fan so its not all that accurate
No. 375546
File: 1550463922588.png (1.67 MB, 2228x1466, yikes.png)
>>375347idk if I should go ahead and paint over this… didn't realize it was Zelda until I read the file name
>>371542I thought it looked fine, I could have used a hair brush instead.
>>375360Thanks
No. 398165
File: 1555133764426.png (70.78 KB, 584x272, lazee edit.png)
a quick edit of bj's new icon
No. 398226
>>398165The hate boner for Bj and a bunch of stupid artist is so strong, that they think they can do better, lmao
BJ's design is better than yours, fuck off anon.
No. 402334
File: 1556155322727.png (1.11 MB, 1158x1212, Holly Brown Art edit.png)
not sure if anyone's posted this specific Holly Brown edit yet but I just felt like fixing the faces