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No. 1078014

Last time on the "Yep, same shit as always…" Edition…

>Jared returned Heidi's games, but instead of dropping them off he decided to splurge to mail them (so much for not having money anymore)

>Jared was really salty about it on stream afterwards, whining about having had to "spend money to be left alone".
>Jared continued the tragedy of his horrible, horrible fashion choices. So many horrendous looks.
>Jared used the excuse of "an instagram glitch" to whine about the drama some more.
>Jared and Holly got trolled hard with concerns about "wife".
>Heidi did witch-themed crafts for Halloween on her store, simps declared "SHE COPIED HOLLY", who owns every patent and copyright on witches ever.
>Jared fished for sympathy again talking about how he feels no one likes him.
>Holly fished for sympathy asking why people still follow her, complaining about lost followers and lost subscribers.
>Holly also published mean DMs for more sympathy-fishing (why even have them open when you're controversial??)
>Simps kept on simping, simps kept "But heeeeeeidiiii"ing, world went 'round
>SadOldMagician opened his yapper a bit too wide and started saying Ross was just as bad as Heidi. Oop.


Quick Synopsis of PigeonGate:

>Jared "the Wormdick" Knabenbauer was a semi prominent personality on the gaming side of youtube. He was involved in many communities such as NormalBoots, Game Grumps and Dice Camera Action as a member of the D&D campaign "Waffle Crew".

>In May 2019 he released a tweet saying he and his wife were separating and to give them space…except he hadn't told his wife and had her blocked the entire time.
>His then wife Heidi O'Ferrall proceeded to reveal to the public he had been gaslighting and abusing her for years, and in the twist no one saw coming, was cheating on her with his DCA co-star, previous cosplay juggernaut Holly Conrad.
>It was revealed through internet sleuthing she had also been cheating on her husband Ross O'Donovan of Game Grumps fame before their divorce. Although it was at first amicable, the joint tweet discussing their separation has since been deleted and Ross refuses to hardly utter her name.
>Holly checked herself into a mental hospital from being cancelled too hard
>Fans came out of the woodwork revealing Jared to be a sexpest who had been soliciting nudes for years, some of which were underage.
>Holly came back to throw herself to the wolves by trying to equate her suffering at being cancelled as to Etikas suicide (didn't work, she got dragged harder). Jared went into hiding to try to salvage his image.
>Jared released a video, "You've Been Lied To", to youtube detailing the "true events" and successfully manipulated his way back into his fans good graces.
>Heidi spoke her truth on a regular basis and stuck to her guns, and Holly tried to mental gymnastics her way into everyone loving her again.
>Jared and Holly moved in together and continue to this day to baww about Heidi being an evil witch and being cancelled including releasing a shirt saying ~CANCELLED~


For More On Holly Conrad's Dubious Past:
>A History of Holly: >>838840 (Source: PULL)

Links to the Clowns Involved in this Circus:

>Jared Knabenbauer/ProJared:

https://twitter.com/projared
https://www.youtube.com/user/DMJared
https://www.instagram.com/projaredgram/

>Heidi O'Ferrall/AtelierHeidi:

https://twitter.com/AtelierHeidi
https://www.youtube.com/user/AtelierHeidi
https://www.instagram.com/atelierheidi/
http://www.atelierheidi.com/

>Holly Conrad/Commander Holly:

https://www.instagram.com/commanderholly/
https://twitter.com/HollyConrad
https://www.youtube.com/user/CommanderHolly

Ross O’Donovan
Do Not Bother Ross O’Donovan
>Game Grump and animator
You May Support and Subscribe at:
>Ross O'Donovan/RubberNinja:
https://twitter.com/RubberNinja
https://www.youtube.com/user/RubberNinja
https://www.instagram.com/rubberninja/

Image Credit: >>1038655
Thread Credit:

Previous Threads (The ProJared Saga Begins):
1: >>785476
2: >>804540
3: >>808888
4: >>812124
5: >>816967
6: >>820703
7: >>826388
8: >>829410
9: >>836081
10: >>841369
11: >>852741
12. >>861615
13. >>866222
14. >>881371
15. >>897566
16. >>914132
17. >>930972
18. >>945131
19. >>971736
20. >>995988
21. >>1008879

Reminder from Mods:
>Subjects have to be 16+ to be discussed on lolcow. Do not include Holly's 15 year old friend’s face or social media posts here.
>This is also a reminder that cowtipping is also against the rules, do not contact the girl or her parents because of her relation to Holly.
>Keep whiteknight posting to when they actually spill milk.

No. 1078464

I don't even care about Jared and Holly anymore.
I just come back to see the SadOldSimp cringe.

No. 1079086

Only problem I have with this OP is that there's no links to the immediate previous thread. Otherwise, good coverage

No. 1079089

>>1079086
I know, I am ashamed of my goof up.

For the thread's sake, and next thread starter, remember to grab this!
>>1040699

No. 1079305

>>1078464
Holly still reads here so sadoldmagician cringe isn't the only thing to look forward too.

No. 1079315

A week ago, wormdick posted a video on Eternal Darkness. It's currently sitting at 122k views and hasn't been ratio'd with dislikes (12k likes to 202 dislikes). Top comment is roughly "Jared hasn't lost his touch". Since the drama he's dropped to 889k subs, and his videos have rotated in and out of having 100~150k and less than 60k views.

It blows my mind that people are still watching his videos, but on the upside it's nothing like the 700k+ views he used to get. Even Marble Madness did moderately ok with 200k, but like, damn.

No. 1079319

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I mean, doesn’t IG do the same as FB, showing you more of what you’d like to see based on what you’ve looked at? Maybe he needs to stop being horny on main, lol.

No. 1079320

>>1079319
pornsick scrote needlessly asks why his instagram account that he’s connected to facebook shows him content the algorithm has estimated will keep him engaged with the app for longer. lmfao.

No. 1079331

>>1079319
Half of these aren’t even very sexual lol

No. 1079332

None of it looks very trash-witchy. Looks like a mix of flirty redheads and cosplayers… someone's not over his ex…

No. 1079336

>>1079332

I noticed that as well. He really seems to have a thing for redheads that look similar to Heidi, doesn’t he?

>>1079315

Yeah, it’s amazing to me that so many people still do watch his videos. I don’t want to be watching content from a sexpest.

No. 1079345

>>1079319

Wow, he's really pathetic and reaching. Those girls aren't even doing anything sexual, they're posing. I literally see a Tiktok video, cosplayers at a con, and girls just existing. He knows his incel crowd will eat that up because they hate women existing. Or is it Holly's doing, she does hate girls prettier than her. All in all prodick is grasping for straws for sympathy.

No. 1079348

>>1079332
>flirty redheads and cosplayers… someone's not over his ex…
perceptive

No. 1079362

I hate when men do this. There's nothing really that sexual about the women in some of those images.

No. 1079365

>>1079362
water fountain lady knows what shes doing though

No. 1079367

>>1079319
Does he think they just show random pics??Instagram does a great job of showing you exactly what you tend to look at. Even if you don't interact with pics of girls being lewd, just staying on the image for longer will be noticed by the algorithm. I agree that these pics aren't even that sexual and men think a girl posing in leggings is a slut but to be fair if my boyfriends feed looked like this Id be sus lol

No. 1079371

>>1079365
That's why I said some.

No. 1079440

>>1079319
Dude know. Someone who makes their living online HAS to understand the concept of algorithms, and that your "explore" tab is going to show you more of the content you've already been looking at. Maybe PedoDick is putting feelers out there to see about dipping his dick back into the internet sexpest world, see if people will let him get away with it twice.

No. 1079454

>>1079440
I don't ever view anything on instagram other than my feed (friend posts and pictures of animals). The rare occasion I do accidentally click over to the explore tab it's at least 30-40% attractive women, 10-20% dice, 10-20% Korean stuff because one of my follows is Korean, and the remainder is random. Attractive women is what's popular on insta, so that's what they show a lot of.

No. 1079563

>>1079454
I don't know though. The majority of the stuff I view on Instagram is just on my feed, and when I do go to the explore section it looks nothing like Jared's, it looks like a clone of my feed.

No. 1079582

>>1079440
Maybe his IG glitched again? :(

No. 1079607

>>1079582
Omg that poor guy!! Evil IG glitches making him look bad. Just like his bitch of an ex-wife.

No. 1079632

I feel like these insta stories he does once a month or so about porn bots or the reccomended pics or the nudes people have sent him are his failed half ass attempt to pivot his brand away from anything sexual. I mean for years he was all sex positive even outside of tumblr. Its something we all have criticized him of, so maybe this is his way of saying "this isn't me anymore"

No. 1079639

>>1079319
Yeah sorry Jared you are definitely seeking out big asses and redheads acting sexual. My explore page doesn't look like that.

No. 1079670

>>1079632
Then why was he playing some sexual game earlier in the summer? Jared can never be consistent. He says he's against "cancel culture" then he posts that leafyishere tweet, with a take so bad even his diehard fans on ProJared2 subreddit think it lost him subs lol. He portrays himself as some open minded liberal but likes a tweet calling his critics "SJWs" and "whiteknights" terms that are popular with rightwingers. Idk how a person can stay a fan at this point.

No. 1079694

>>1079319

The real question isn't why the explore tab is "always so horny," but whether Jared's posting his thirst-likes for attention or if he's just too stupid to understand the algorithm.

No. 1079713

>>1079694
Like other anons said a some of those images aren't that sexual. But nowadays if a girl posts a picture of herself on Instagram wearing leggings, a swimsuit, showing a little skin = "horny e-thot"

No. 1079722

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Still looks like a narcissistic sexpest to me.(nitpick)

No. 1079724

>>1079722

Kek why in the world would someone this Shadow Over Innsmouth looking think that he'll get asspats and positive feedback from the internet?

No. 1079729

>>1079722

Is this really the bar we're setting now? Posting his insta pics with "he still looks like a sexpest"? I hate the dude too but posts like this make the entire thread look like we have nothing better to do than make petty comments at every picture he posts.

No. 1079730

>>1079729
That's literally all this thread is.

No. 1079760

>>1079729

Well, his bitching about IG algorithms isn’t really helping him hide his ways.

No. 1079763

>>1079722
All I see is Sid from ice age.

No. 1079768

>>1079332
Ikr, imagine being Holly.

No. 1079774

>>1079722

ew
That haircut is absolutely horrendous, it's showing way too much skin on the right side, like there's a serious indent there and his hair just is gone. The eyebrow muscles look outlined like some cartoon character, and his goatee is more like a donut or a coffee ring staining his face than facial hair. He looks umkempt with the fuzzy hair all over the right side of his neck, like a rotting fruit, and his skin has this yellowish sheen to it that makes him look jaudiced.

>"I worked with my stylist to give it more volume"

yeah, good luck with that haircut when you're balding, Jared
(and why did he tag this shit "seattle")

No. 1079785

>>1079722
ProDick, do NOT blame that hairstyle on the wind - That's purely male pattern baldness setting in and your weird attempt at hiding the fact that you're not a 20-something nerd anymore by using a combover.

No. 1079788

>>1079722
Then take a picture indoors, genius.

No. 1079807

>>1079729
This place is basically a gossip forum where people shit talk the person of interest, its not that serious.

No. 1079857

>>1079722
was this bitch in a devastating car wreck or some shit? how come every picture i've ever seen of him it looks like half of his face was paralyzed in a horrible accident?

No. 1079868

You know his old hairstyle, as dated as it was, made him look much better in hindsight. Jesus that baldspot.

No. 1079948

>>1079632
I think it’s the opposite. If he wanted to wash his hands if his oversexed image he could simply not bring these subjects up, but he can’t help himself. He wants to talk about nudes and porn and sexy cosplayers but he knows that he can’t do so as openly as before without getting backlash, so he does it in a roundabout way.
>hehe guys don’t send nudes to my business account hehe
Most YTers/streamers/influencers don’t talk about nudes at all, especially if they have even a hint of an underage audience. They avoid the topic as much as possible and the decent ones probably just block and ignore sexual DMs. Jared on the other hand really likes talking to his audience about being horny and getting nudes and it’s probably killing him that he can’t be as blatant about it as before.

No. 1079987

>>1079807
Right? Like this is a gossip forum meant to laugh at, but people come here and treat it like one of those truth blogs or something. It's not meant to be a serious takedown compilation of Jared, we just make fun of him because he's a fucking loser narc.

No. 1080042

>>1079948
Agreed. He continuously makes reference to his fans being horny and offhand comments about sliding into DMs that make it sound like he's missing his SinJared days. They could easily read as an invitation to some people. It's like a druggie joking about doing a hit of something out of nowhere… unless, ya know, you want to wink wink.

He's claimed issues with sexual addiction in the past so he could be getting back into his old groove. Or, at the very least, not saying no to nudes. Him divorced, who would care that much unless minors were involved (besides Hoelly)? He has to have learned to be careful about age.

Speculation of course. He could be genuinely joking but old habits die hard. like >>1079319 let's pretend recommendeds are totally random. Seriously, why bring attention to it?

No. 1080059

>>1080042
Just as an aside:
>He continuously makes reference to his fans being horny

Literally everyone who is on Twitch and Twitter says this, it's currently memeculture so surprisingly it's not that deep. Really, watch any streamer who plays games that aren't fortnite and shit and you'll hear "horny" 'horny jail' etc, especially by chat depending on game content (for example Yakuza currently is a hot topic.)

>>1079319
I tried this with a new account, fresh connection and different device even through a VPN, and it shows me what's "hot/viral" and most are women and dogs/dumb viral shit pushing "reels" or whatever. I searched up neither and have no followers/following on that account.

I had a friend share a post of something off their timeline, a cosplayer, and clicked on it, didn't interact with it (other than view) and bam..e-thots everywhere after refreshing the page. So if he's EVER looked at Heidi's stuff in the past the algorithm already tied this kinda stuff to him, simply because "cosplay" and "aesthetics" these days tend to be this kind of stuff. So it doesn't 100% mean he specifically searched it up, it could be residual shit. If you use Twitter or FB you should know it can immediately toss things at you that you never even looked at before simply because you came across it at one point in time and that's only if Ads slip through.

>>1079807
Depending on thread though, people find it nitpicky/annoying and not really milk when you have to twist something that isn't negative into a negative.

No. 1080068

>>1079454
Nah, Jared is definitely only looking at/following attractive women pages on insta. My explore page consists exclusively of lesbians, birds, and vintage fashion, which surprise surprise is my regular feed. He’s trying to take the pious “I’m not a sexpest! It’s these harlots that keep being thrown at me!” route. I wonder how much of this holly actually believes, she has to know how the algorithm acts too.

No. 1080085

>>1080068

Yeah, exactly. I look at stuff like cats, beach pics and animal crossing pics, and that’s what most of my IG feed throws at me. I do even look at a couple of “questionable” IG’s, and I’m not getting a flurry of e-thots in my Explore like PedoDick seems to be getting. So for him to be like, “I don’t know why this is happening?!” is just an act. We all know why it’s happening.

No. 1080147

>>1079987
Try telling telling that to the spastics that follow heidiofans that keep trying to brigade here. If you take a place called "lolcow" that seriously you've proven yourself to be pretty unhinged.

No. 1080153

>>1080147
"we're just here to laugh at them"

>post that laughs at Heidi


"But she's a queen and awesome, not to be laughed at! Her clothes that look like a child's pajamas are honestly really cool looking and perfect"

No. 1080154

>>1080153
Found the spastic.

No. 1080163

>>1080147
>>1080154
Found the retard who can't sage and still acts like a smug asshole.

No. 1080167

>>1080163
Take your meds

No. 1080170

>>1080147

I know you have a massive hate boner for heidiofans, but he's just as entitled to his opinion as we are ours. Just because he has the opposite views on the trio doesn't mean you should rage post everything he says trying to get us to brigade him.

No. 1080173

>>1080170
And that gives him and his followers the right to try and brigade our threads like they did the last one?

No. 1080181

>>1080173

Didn't that turn out to be one person? Also can you prove that came from heidiofans and not sadoldmagician or Holly? You posted him linking the old thread once, back when it started over a month ago. You're really trying to tell me people followed a month old link to talk shit on us while Holly was still actively bringing us up? I believe that "brigade" came from Holly, or sadold working on her behalf.

No. 1080198

>>1080181
There's nothing disproving that they didn't come from there either. Someone even said it in the previous thread. They talk about us just as much as sadoldmagician. Well agree to disagree.

No. 1080201

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The shorter hair brings way more attention to his fucked up hair line. Why did he think this looks good?

No. 1080228

>>1080181

>Also can you prove


ladies n gents, we got 'em

No. 1080230

>>1080201
Look at how he dresses.
He's just naturally tacky.

No. 1080242

>>1080228
We have no idea where it comes from it could be any of the three or even Gavin White.

No. 1080254

>>1080242

Precisely, that's why I asked for proof that it was heidiofans sending that one person to shit on the thread when we have several other more likely suspects that proved over and over to go out of their way to start fights over their precious Hored heroes.

No. 1080265

>>1080254
We know that people from that blog have been active here in the past I just don't think they are the only ones. Sadoldmagician has been pretty pissed over the Ross thing lately.

No. 1080294

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Idk if this was posted. "I have never shared anything they didn't want shared"

No. 1080311

>>1080059
Jared is a 30+ year old streamer who was not-that-long-ago embroiled in a sex scandal. He doesn't get to make jokes about nudes one minute and bitch that it nearly ruined his career the next.

No. 1080313

>>1080294
That was literally posted on the very last thread. Also, sadold simping for Hoelly and PedoDick isn't exactly new milk.

No. 1080336

>>1080313
My mistake.

It's still pretty weird sadold jokes about Ross being the abusive one. Didn't Ross in the past say that he was drawn to controlling women?

No. 1080347

>>1080294

so he’s admitted that he had the ok from hoelly and wormdick to start shitting on ross and saying him and an “unfixable abuser” deserve eachother despite him saying he didn’t want to be dragged into the shitstorm from the very beginning. so kind of them uwu

also it’s funny he’s so scared of the backlash he’ll get from stans on twitter that he can only say this shit on tumblr. they’re playing a dangerous game trying to start a smear campaign on ross knowing how many people adore him

No. 1080349

>>1080347
>>1080345
>>1080342
>>1080341
Double posting non-sage anon-chan has evolved into quadruple posting sage anon-sama

No. 1080355

>>1080349

i kept fixing the wrong mistake lmao my bad. pls no ban mods

No. 1080359

>>1080336
>Didn't Ross in the past say that he was drawn to controlling women?
If that's the case he's a massive loser, but this thread already has a thing for weak, malleable idiots.

No. 1080373

>>1080347

Not only does he only talk his shit on tumblr, he won't even do it in his own blog. Closest he got was saying "yes" when asked if he had a problem with Ross, which could just as easily be interrupted as "I don't like his content". When pressed for more info, he danced around the question with "I haven't said anything Jared and Holly don't approve of". The only time he's ever accused Ross of anything is through heidiofans. Personal theory but I think sadold is using the fact that heidio is out of his friendship loop with Jared and Holly to spread hate at Ross without getting caught. How fucked up can you be to abuse one blogger who is on his side to spread hate at someone who asked not to be involved?

No. 1080518

>>1080359
It has to do with the way he was raised by his mother. This happens a lot to people who have fucked up relationships with a parent. Lets not call victims weak for being manipulated.

No. 1080560

>>1080373

He also dunks his Jared/Holly friendship status all over Heidiofans' comments. Almost every time HOF makes a post, SOM is in the comments making some reference or blatently bragging to being friends with them. So not only would he be using HOF as a way to spread shit talk about Ross, he's also subtly shit talking HOF for not being in the super special friends of Youtubers club. How does this guy have friends?

No. 1080576

>>1080560

He buys them, like when he drops a bunch of gifted subs in ProDick’s streams. As long as he keeps throwing money at them, ProDick and Hoelly will keep him around.

No. 1080609

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Again treating a friend better than his own gf for their birthday lmao.

No. 1080628

>>1080609
Isn't raeraesenpai the one who looks EERILY like Heidi? Dude is all about showing love to anyone who resembles his ex-wife while his new girl barely gets a passing nod on her birthday.

No. 1080630

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>>1080628
Yep. Guess we can't accuse the guy of not having a type.

No. 1080641

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>>1080630
>>1080628
>>1080609

He could never afford to bang her though since I doubt he can afford the flight to Australia to show his dick in person, and I doubt she'll want the embarrassment of flying to Seattle to give him a pity fuck.

No. 1080663

Could someone please tell SOM that Jared and Holly will never have sex with him? His desperate simping is making even me feel sad and old

No. 1080673

>>1080663

I'm sure plenty of people told him that through his tumblr, he just ignores the people telling him the facts.

No. 1080748

>>1080663
How do you know they haven't already?

No. 1080868

>>1080641

Did jared and this lady ever interact before the drama?

No. 1080871

>>1080868

I don’t think so, this seems to have come up after the drama and Pedodick having to resort to Twitch for income.

No. 1080890

>>1080628
I can post an entire list of white girls with red hair that looks the same, I get what you're trying to say but it's like pretending many asian women don't look alike. It's not that weird.

>>1080868
Probably, NONE of us know any of these people's private lives as much as we want to pretend we do. Obviously when drama starts up you don't want to start dragging others into it, why do you think jared's editor bounced and none of us knew who she was until AFTER the fact?

No. 1080910

>>1080748
I doubt even someone as horny as Jared would be able to get it up around SOM

No. 1080923

I personally don't really care about SOM, the dude's got creep abuser vibes all over him, but I really do want to know what his problem with Ross is. Like, is it because he doesn't like Ross's animation style? Does he think Ross is [adjective here]? Is it just because of Holly's "horror stories" about him? Is it all three or am I missing the mark?

I feel like giving benefit of the doubt to SOM here because there's a range of reasons, from petty to "I had a bad experience with this guy and that colored my perception", but unless he tells us it really does just sound and read like "fuck ross my princess holly do no wrong said so" and it's weak as fuck and makes him sound like a tool.

No. 1080943

>>1080923

I wouldn’t give him the benefit of the doubt at all. He laps up whatever Hoelly and PedoDick tell him about Ross and Heidi, and is convinced that they’re both abusers.

No. 1080945

>>1080890
True, a lot of white girls with red hair look the same. But if Heidi was just so abusive that he and Holly were terrified of her, one would think he wouldn't willingly associate with someone who could be her twin.

No. 1080946

>>1080923
Considering SOM claims that he didn't know any of these people personally before the drama broke, it reads as Princess Holly Do-No-Wrong (love the nickname btw) filling him full of whatever makes her look like the victim and everyone else the bad guy.

No. 1081489

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Do yall think he understands that this post could be read just as much about him and Hoelly as it can Heidi? Lolll

"Dont trust how people act and what they say, the could be abusive. Not me tho"

No. 1081493

>>1081489

As much as ProDick and Hoelly whine about “the drama” you’d think that they’d just stop posting this kind of shit and finally get fucking past it. This is some projection if I’ve ever seen some. Sorry not sorry if I don’t believe that the person soliciting their fanbase for nudes isn’t an abuser.

No. 1081495

>>1081489

That last line is a LOT.
> If you only know someone platonically you might not know them at all.

Coming from Jared? I -

No. 1081595

>>1081495

So I guess that means SadOldSimp and PedoDick aren’t as good friends as he likes to think they are? Unless they’re fucking, lol. What a bunch of BS, just because you’ve fucked someone or are romantically involved with someone doesn’t mean that you know someone better than someone you’re really good friends with. People are still people and may be upfront about some things and hide others, no matter friendship/relationship status. Jared was married to Heidi but was hiding that he was emotionally cheating/fucking Hoelly after all.

No. 1081779

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i was scrolling through jared’s (heavily moderated) comment section from his latest video and spotted this

he’s totally only ever targeted an 18+ audience though guys!

No. 1081797

>>1081779

"Talks like a friend in high school" = "Wants to talk to kids in high school"? That's quite a reach there.

No. 1081816

>>1081779

I can’t say that’s really a compliment. I remember how shitty a lot of my high school friends were and once I went to college I never spoke to any of them again. Jared definitely seems like he’s retained a high school mentality though.

No. 1081821

>>1081797

that’s not what i was getting at anon, i agree that’s a reach lmao. i just find it weird that a dude in his thirties with a history of soliciting nudes from fans without properly IDing them is trying to appeal to his allegedly fully adult audience by acting like he’s their high school friend

No. 1081825

>>1081821

I guess it depends on how you interpret that comment. I saw it as "this reminds me of hanging out with my buddies in high school", not "he's trying to act like he's a high schooler".

No. 1081874

>>1081816
That's heavily anecdotal though. Most of my folks in HS were amazing people I miss every day because we grew apart as we got older.

>>1081821
Using more than 2 braincells you'd understand it's referring to approachability and someone you know you can have a convo with.

Maybe this will be easier for you: Have you ever talked to anyone in their 40s+ and see the SEVERE disconnect with today's world? Let alone having to teach them anything?

So it's really not a bad comment or something worth digging into.

No. 1081876

>>1081779
horseshit. Jared is the kind of kid that 90% of us would avoided because he looks like he'd show up with a shotgun the first time he broke up with his girlfriend.

No. 1081878

>>1081874
>"Have you ever talked to anyone in their 40s+ and see the severe disconnect with today's world?"

You realize PedoDick is 35, right? He's not far off from being in his 40s and there is a HUGE disconnect between him and today's world, as exhibited by the fact he saw nothing wrong with exchanging nudes with fans who he had absolutely no way of knowing the age of (since he didn't verify beyond a 'real quick, 18+ right?)

No. 1081913

>>1080923
>>1080946
i genuinely don't get it, especially because he's never met ross. like i get some people didn't like the "i'm just a troll / gamer gremlin" persona that he leaned into for gg and steam train. but when you catch his twitch streams now, he's super chill and laid back, gives good artist and creative advise while streaming mario maker, vr chat or creative stuff. like ok, you don't like the version he played but unless you know him for real, dude is legit really low key and is squeaky clean drama wise.

oh wait! he has that one story of shitting himself while shopping in china town. i guess that can be his drama.

No. 1081924

>>1081913
I mean, he did go to visit his sick mom during a vacation to Japan only to go back to that trip like a week later, so I wouldn't assume he's "squeaky clean". I'd say he's probably just the type to have minor drama that isn't going to trend.

No. 1081931

>>1081924

you realize it's super easy for Australians to visit Japan due to geographical proximity, right? Also you don't know what his mother told him, it's not like he decided to fuck off and go back, she had family there and maybe in that week a lot was discussed that you weren't part of, because ya know, you don't know him

No. 1081934

>>1081924
You realize someone taking a break from vacation to see their dying Mom and then going back to said vacation doesn't make them dirty right?

No. 1081943

>>1081934
>>1081931
He took the opportunity of a cheaper flight and didn't stay for the extent of the trip. He thought she might die and he didn't just bail on the trip to Japan with friends and spend the full time with his mother? I don't care what she said to him. That's not an indication of a "squeaky clean person". That's a normal ass person who can be a little selfish at times but doesn't piss people off enough for it to be an issue.

No. 1082118

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Such a class act

No. 1082121

>>1082118

Things like this makes me think if he's doing that BECAUSE we post it here. Just "let me make jokes about this sign and watch lolcow get mad about it". He does it so much now, and you know Holly is telling him all about the reactions we give him. And those kinds of posts started after his insta posts were regularly getting posted here.

No. 1082124

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Makes me wonder if she didnt want to be as sexual as Jared pushed her to be. Reminds me of in Heidi's stream when she said that reading their messages made her realise he is just as bad to Holly that he was her. Ignoring messages for days, giving short disinterested responses, etc. Maybe that was his punishment whenever she wasn't falling over herself to pretend to be sexual to please him

No. 1082130

>>1082124
Interesting thought, to be honest. This also makes me tinfoil… If SadOldCuck doesn't like Ross and considers him a perfect match for that aboosive horrible Heidi, I wonder if this image is related to that. Sorry if I worded that weird.

No. 1082157

>>1082124
I don't think Holly would say/do anything critical of Jared after lighting herself on fire for him this many times. Either way, I doubt her MRA "muh wahmen's false accusations" followers will take this well, since they think the burden is on women to have a photo album of proof if they claim to feel violated in any way. If she starts putting out messages like this, about how absence of no isn't a yes (although she is correct to do so) her defenders who followed her for the drama will eventually turn on her cause they're all huge pieces of shit who hate Heidi/any other woman who makes accusations more than they like Holly or Jared. Holly might not see that yet.

No. 1082177

>>1082124

Wasn’t she supposedly asexual before all of the DCA stuff anyway? I’m not surprised she’s posted something like this. It seems to me like she can only really think about getting sexually/romantically involved with someone only if it involves her characters. Ross with ME, and now Jared with DCA. Since DCA got cancelled, maybe now the magic is starting to fade.

>>1082121

Yep, probably so. He’s just trying to get a reaction. Or he’s putting out a not so subtle message that his DM’s are open, lol.

No. 1082185

>>1082157

It just is weird to imagine this is about anyone but Jared when we all know how much of a sex pest he is and that he legitimately had (has) a sex addiction. Maybe she means this as a subtle dig at Ross, but hon you're with a literal horn dog, who the fuck do you think people are gonna think of when they read this

No. 1082239

>>1082124
This might be the start of Holly's "Jared was abusive to me but only me because I'm special and always fall into abusive relationships" saga.

No. 1082250

>>1082185
It does line up with the SadOldCuck hinting that Ross wasn't the husbando the majority assume he was, but >>1082239 wouldn't be surprising. Even if she does not accuse ProDick of being abusive she may be setting herself up to look like the poor victim who just couldn't say no and should not hold any accountability for the physical relationship between them.

Sagin' for speculatin' but if their relationship comes to an end and they announce it, it will draw a lot of attention and require the Lord's PR team to let it rest. Someone will be blamed for the relationship ending (even if it's advertised as amicable). That can't be Holly. She's so fragile, so vulnerable, such victim

or it could be #notthatdeep lol

No. 1082319

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Weird how she says she was just caught in the crossfire. Like let's be real she was full on canceled, Heidi literally @ed her from the start

My theory is that Jared is super douchey about being a victim of the drama and whenever she laments her own cancellation he snaps at her that she has no idea what it really was like to be truly canceled

No. 1082349

>>1082319
Interesting that she equates facing consequences to false accusations and mob mentality.

No. 1082350

>>1082349

What i find interesting is that she said false assumptions, not accusations

No. 1082357

>>1082350
My bad anon. The way she said she lost everything makes me think her and Jared are on the rocks and she is regretting a lot. I wouldn't be surprised if this is her planting the seeds of her victim story for when her and Jared break up like >>1082250 speculated.

No. 1082412

>>1082239

I can empathize with people who grew up in unstable environments falling into equally unstable relationships as adults, but there are steps you can take to ensure that you don't fall into bad relationships while working through your issues with attachment… like not fucking a married man while you yourself are married.

No. 1082424

>>1082349
She's not wrong though surprisingly, even here on lolcow people went (and continue to go) off the rails on speculation and spinning anything into a negative. Neither are good people but think about how literally anything they do is seemingly nefarious in intention down to the way they choose to dress is somehow a plot.

The whole "cancel culture" thing does get people caught into it simply by association, look at how people tried to cancel PBG for being friends with Jared and how they tried to throw Jontron into the middle of it despite being ABSOLUTELY unrelated to everything aside at ONE POINT being a part of normalboots/Gamegrumps.

>>1082412
>but there are steps you can take to ensure that you don't fall into bad relationships

While I know your comment was mostly to dig at holly, it's actually not that easy to "avoid" that kind of situation depending on how deeply rooted it is, as you may easily trust someone who seems "right for you and not abusive" but they end up the most abusive person you've ever met.

No. 1082513

>>1082424

PBG was "cancelled" because of his tweets against Heidi without knowing the full situation. "If you don't know what's going on and it's not about you, then sit down and shut up" should be common sense but it's not

Jontron's 'involvement' in the drama was people pointing out the hypocrisy of Jared's behaviour, because when Jontron got kicked out Jared was like "begone racist evil!" but when Jared's under the spotlight suddenly he's an uwu victim

and as far as the abusive relationships, yeah it's not easy if you have not gone to a therapist and have lower emotional intelligence. And I'm not saying that a person is dumb, but not aware of the red flags and the signs that someone is abusive, beyond what they show you. I am sure Jared is looooooovely to Holly Con-artist, but if she can't see the bouquet of red flags in front of her, as a supposed mental health guru, who has apparently been to therapy and is advertising herself as someone emotionally intelligent, then yeah, it's on her

People get into abusive relationships because they don't enforce boundaries. That's it. Abusive people are more likely to trespass your boundaries whereas "normal" people will respect them, but if you reward the assholes by allowing them to be near you then you end up cultivating a vicious cycle of only letting abusers near you. And I don't mean boundaries like Holly's "boundaries" meme. I mean having an understanding of yourself and understanding of human nature so that you can recognize what is abusive and what isn't.

I'm pretty certain Holly is love bombing Jared because he's a precious hurt little bird to her. She doesn't have the upper hand in this relationship, not by a long shot, but she is coddling and spoonfeeding Jared all her mental health phrases that he loves using lately. Honestly, take any post from Jared, and edit in Holly's profile picture and username, and tell me if you can tell the difference. She makes Jared feel validated, Jared gives Holly some minimum attention. Her relationship with him will always be tainted and they will never be able to forget that.

No. 1082999

>>1082319
This is so weak lol. Holly PUT HERSELF in the crossfire. No one forced her to make a giant Twitter thread to defend Jared and demonize Heidi. He chose to be silent and let her fall on the sword. I think people would have left her alone if she hadn't decided to insert herself in to the drama when Jared was called out and comment "I'm here for you ❤" on his divorce announcement.

No. 1083213

>>1082999

Heidi did include Holly in her callout tweets from the start. They were both getting fired at via twitter, they just responded different. Jared went radio silent, Holly tried to fire back.

No. 1084105

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Yikes

No. 1084121

>>1084105
That’s so fucking gross especially coming from him lol

No. 1084124

>>1084105
Him and 38% of people especially if you actually see what she does.

No. 1084155

ot and i know i’ll probably get banned for this but is no one else noticing the badly intergrated stan who keeps replying to every recent post on here with a not-so-subtle defence for jared/holly? has gavin white decided that obsessively whiteknighting on twitter isn’t enough anymore or something?

No. 1084164

>>1084155
I've seen no white knighting in almost 2 threads unless you're using an extremely loose definition of it and you'll probably be banned for trying to incite in-fighting if anything. The most I've seen were a few anons not being all in hatred or all in asslicking for them, it's perfectly okay to form your own opinions like any other cow.

No. 1084171

>>1084105

Barf. No one wants his earthworm Jim looking butt thirsting after them.

No. 1084190

>>1084105

That's one of the same like 2-3 cosplayers he's been thirsting after for awhile - Just more pedodick throwing his hat in the ring since I'm pretty sure FiragaFox and her husband separated awhile back.

No. 1084203

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Sorry for her birds and all but her dramatics are off the rails. People were threatening to kill her birds and now they're dying and she hasn't had a career in a year because she built said "career" on being likable and fucked it up. But of course she had nothing to do with that

No. 1084204

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No. 1084214

>>1084204

Holly is going through this with her beloved birds and is clearly having another (understandable) breakdown and meanwhile Jared is… replying to sexy cosplayers. Gee, what a good guy.

"I didn't have any say or choice in" yeah I didn't think you personally asked Heidi not to call you out but that doesnt mean she shouldn't have. That's like a rapist whining over going to trial over a case they didnt have any say or choice in partaking in. Like if you're gonna be the other woman you gotta own up to it when you're called out, its hard to get people to feel bad for you when you're always whining that you had to say in being called out. Like yeah I'm sure you didnt want Heidi to find out or tell anyone, but you know what would be a good way of stopping her from doing that? Not fucking her husband and being a pickme

Dont get me wrong, I do feel bad for her and her birds. Its obvious she loves them alot and I hope they all recover, but not every fucking thing that ever happens to her is a result of the drama, and even if she thinks it is she really doesn't have to post her tinfoil theories

No. 1084217

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Guys we have to stop pointing out her manipulation, she apologized for being human. Wrap it up, everybody

No. 1084235

>>1084204
>slept with a married man after the wife said no multiple times
"I didn't have a say in this scandal and I was just caught in the crossfire!!"
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

No. 1084238

>>1084217

Looks like lolcow is over guys, time to go.

I do feel bad for her birds, I don’t want to see animals suffer. But for her to say that her career got ruined because of a scandal that she didn’t want any part of? She is the other woman, I don’t know when she’s going to ever get it through her head that she was an active part of it all along. Sleep with a married man, and reap the consequences, that’s how that works.

No. 1084244

>>1084235

If you dont want to be in a scandal dont do scandalous shit.

Jared did uwu reply to her being all sweet but idk its like… yall live together and are probably in the same room. Just go comfort her lmao. So performative

No. 1084262

>>1084204
>Which is exactly what people threatened they would do. Kill my birds.
does she really think the big bad internet is coming to her house and killing her birds??

No. 1084288

>>1084244
If he didn’t post it we would just laugh about how he totally ignores her. Phoney public words of affirmation are holly’s love language so, I’d say he made the right call posting that obviously coordinated shit. Knowing him, he probably drafted It between flirty IG messages with low tier thots.

>>1084262
She knows nobody hurt her birds. Shes just Trying to guilt trip anyone who enjoys her histrionics by shouting “ARE YOU HAPPY??!! I bet lolcow LOVES that my birds are dying! It’s as if you all did this with your mean words!” Like, no, that does suck but maybe try not being a hysterical masochist in public for once in your life if you can’t handle the attention.

No. 1084316

>>1084238
They were happy flaunting their affair during streams and at conventions and stonewalling Heidi whenever she tried to talk to Jared. They are both just mad they Heidi flipped the power dynamic they had built. They were happy with their fans worshipping them and didn't want pesky Heidi to disturb that. Imagine blocking your own wife from seeing the divorce announcement you are making about your marriage. This, after weeks of Heidi begging him to let her speak about their split since fans kept asking her why they weren't seen together in a while.

Like I said, they are just pissed they couldn't continue to stifle Heidi like they had already been doing. They thought they could since they are e-celebs and she wasn't.

No. 1084335

>>1081489
someone please photoshop this next to the "you guys know me" tweet.

No. 1084344

>>1084217
>any time i'm vulnerable it's a feast for them
because you never stop woe-is-me-ing holly and checking this place or taking solid advice we give on here. too bad she will never stop because shes a huge narc and a fiend for martyrdom. im starting to think the holly/jared defense force is literally her coming here and being triggered by what we say since it's been confirmed over and over she reads what we say.

No. 1084347

>>1084288
>She knows nobody hurt her birds.
Exactly. I can't believe she even made that tweet. The levels she will go to to make herself a victim even in coincidental unfortunate circumstances is astounding. What's happening to her pets is sad, it's also sad that she feels like she can't focus on that without spiraling into talk of the drama and blaming the internet for it all.

No. 1084394

>>1084203
Three birds probably DID get sick, but that's what happens with birds in general, especially birds kept in relatively close quarters like she has them. I hate when she bitches about money though - like she could have had several paying gigs by now, had she just contained her twitter freak outs.

No. 1084395

>>1084204
>"A scandal that I didn't have any say or choice in"

Did Jared rape you, Hoelly? No? Then you absolutely had a choice in fucking that married man or not.

No. 1084396

>>1084217
Does she still not understand that the more she mentions "a hate forum", the more people will google to find it, read about her shit, and be turned away from supporting her?

No. 1084404

>>1084204

This is a person who spent her entire e-lister fame time being propped up by other people, without even a hint of acknowledging their work towards her goals, finally having go it on her own and failing. Because she expects everything to be handed to her whether it's mild fame, or forgiveness. Considering Jared is the same way the fallout from their eventual break up is going to be legendary.

No. 1084408

>>1084204
>>1082124

Sounds like it's starting to sink in that she might have felt pressured to sleep with Jared, not absolving her of any blame, but I noticed she isn't talking about how she was "Just trying to help a friend in need!" or propping 'poor wittle Jared' up as a martyr anymore.

…Maybe after a year with Jared the blinders are finally starting to fall off…

No. 1084410

>>1084394

I find it interesting that she’s complaining about money when Jared’s been buying a bunch of retro games, tried to get a PS5, etc. You’d think he’d help her out a little more if they’re supposedly so in love.

No. 1084415

I only feel bad for the birds themselves, and I already felt bad for them before since they’re owned by a pet hoarder. I don’t feel bad for her at all, she’s the one who got them all, it’s easy logic to figure out that lots of animals = lots of medical issues, and that only compounds when you keep them all in an enclosed space. Besides, it’s clear she’s extorting their pain for twitter sympathy points which makes me want to scream. I knew she was bad, but can you imagine whoring out your supposed-loved pet like that? Holly, this is why people don’t like you, not rumors, not “wrong assumptions” or whatever, it’s your ego and victim complex. And I hope she’s reading here so she can read this. It won’t ever sink in, though, of course. If it hasn’t sunk it for over a year, it never will.

No. 1084416

>>1084235
Hahah and
> IM HERE IF YOU NEED TO TALK.

No. 1084419

>>1079639
Hahah right? My explore page is like 99% memes and cats lol

No. 1084462

>>1084214
Exactly. Heidi knew Holly socially. If I had hung around with me + my husband and a woman and her husband and she then had an affair with my husband, I would absolutely assign more blame than I would to a random girl he met online. I would absolutely put her on blast for that.

Part of that is you can kind of see how someone could compartmentalize their affair when they've never met the girlfriend and she just exists in whatever jared says. But Heidi was a real person to her and she still didn't give a shit.

Even if she TRULY believed Heidi was abusive the answer to that would be for Jared to leave the house then break up with Heidi at a distance for his own safety.

I'm a casual reader of this thread but the fact every time I come in here she is STILL talking about this on the very platform that she claimed nearly bullied her to suicide is fucking insane.

No. 1084466

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>>1081489
kek at jared regraming a monroe bergdorf post, another male that doesn't understand boundaries, especially with children on twitter. Birds of a feather.

>It emerges that the celebrity has a history of asking children in emotional distress to contact them online.


https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/munroe-bergdorf-the-nspcc-and-the-failure-of-the-media(derailing)

No. 1084481

>>1084395
Careful there anon with >>1082124 she might start saying she was manipulated to have sex it Jared thus making it rape.

>>1084415
My main issue with holly and her pigeons is that they're all wild animals and she doesn't have the proper licencing to be a rehabilitator. she owns them strictly as pets and keeps them in a small aviary for how many she keeps. Having them all in that small shack will cause more health issues since they can get each other sick.

No. 1084525

>>1084217

she truly can’t stand that she can’t control what we say on here. i don’t even think it hurts her feelings, i think it just eats her up inside that she can’t get away with sending her orbiters here to harass people into silence and that we critique her and call her out on her bullshit freely. her “i’m human and mentally ill uwu” shit only works on her echo chamber and she hates that she can’t suicide bait anyone here into shutting up

i feel for her birds though, they’ve always been another way for her to feel in control of something helpless and now that they’re at risk of dying i think the reality is setting in that they’re not as well looked after as she thinks/she can’t afford to help them when they’re sick so she’s trying to place the blame on someone else despite it being her fault for hoarding a bunch of birds in a tiny kennel so that she could larp as her d&d oc

i hope they recover and that holly pulls her head out of her ass, stops blaming lolcow for all her problems and sends them somewhere where they can thrive

No. 1084539

If the scandal was such a financial hit, why was she getting even more birds just a few months ago?

Also doesn't she have extensive experience in costuming and prop making?
You'd think between that and her Emmy certificate she could find a cozy job behind the scenes for film or TV… But that's too far from the spotlight for her ego.

No. 1084574

>>1084539
The thing I just can't believe is that she really blames "cancel culture" and the drama for her loss of income at this point and still doesn't connect the dots that her massive freakouts on twitter and in YT comments are what make her unemployable. She's doubling down on the thing causing her this problem because she has to tell herself she can't do anything wrong. If she's faced with being wrong, she either doubles down or starts her song and dance of "I'm sorry, will you leave me alone now?" or "my bullies and haters want me to apologize to an abusive person but I will never say sorry for things I didn't do! I wasn't wrong!"

No. 1084580

>>1084466
This doesn't seem like derailing? The fact Jared is following people like these is important. I didn't know who he was.

You guys have been inactive to all other derailing/rule breaking but turn up for this.

No. 1084587

>>1084204
Isn't it funny how you'd still have a career if you hadn't deliberately pursued Jared, Holly?

No. 1084592

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>>1084539

this reminded me of pic related from an older thread. why doesn’t she go back to being a barista if she loved it so much?

No. 1084609

>>1084525

When you have that many animals- especially in such close quarters- you need to be financially prepared if a medical emergency happens. If she wants to blame the drama for loss of income that's fine, but that doesnt apply here since she has gotten like a dozen new birds since then. It's sad her birds are sick, but it's on her to take care of them. Maybe if she spent less on indie brew and had her boyfriend buy less indie games and consoles she could set aside some money for the lives she has taken charge of. When you have pets, especially 50+ like she does, it is 100% on you to take care of them in sickness and health. You dont get to heard dozens of birds in a relatively (for that many) small coop and then act surprised when some get sick and spread it.

No. 1084610

>>1084592
Because she said she "honestly loved it" to seem more relatable, not because she actually did. Like, we KNOW you've survived off of Grandpa's Disney money, Holly. You're so far removed from the income bracket of those who typically watch your dreadful RP-come-to-life shit that it isn't even funny.

No. 1084615

>>1084105
But Jared, what about Holly? I thought you were in a relationship?

No. 1084616

>>1084592
>>1084610

like, I have never met a single living soul who actually enjoyed being a barista at a coffee shop. Not a single one. It was a job they could do, it was a subpar salary, and it was customer facing, which is hell on earth and I say this as someone who has been customer support and sales on the floor.

If Holly thinks having usernames on the internet say bad things about her is horrific, wait till she gets screaming customers, abusive jerks, flirtatious creeps or cranky boomers. To her face. Not behind a screen. Not on "hate forums". Right there, right now, in front of her. Her fragile mental health couldn't take it.

No. 1084618

>>1084204
This reeks of cluster B, holy shit.

No. 1084626

>>1084615

You forget that he "simply is polyamorous" I'm sure he told Holly that having a closed relationship is a dealbreaker

No. 1084638

>>1084592
Imagine saying this during a pandemic.

No. 1084645

>>1084626
I mean to be fair..Heidi likely said the same thing as she's poly, all she did was go with his bullshit of she can't be with others.

>>1084638
Based on how our government refuses to help us? I don't have to imagine it, many of us are in this exact situation lmao.

I don't know what "truth" she's talking about though.

No. 1084736

>>1084618
Right? She has to constantly try to manipulate her audience

No. 1084740

>>1084638

As clueless as she is, this tweet is from last June fresh off the drama. Peep the old profile picture (back when she changed it 3 times a day lmao)

>>1084736

Wonder how well those pins would have sold without her guilting people saying the money made from them would go to her poor dying birds

Something about someone who lives with another content creator and has a successful patreon complaining about money and guilting people into buying their ugly pins doesnt sit right with me, especially during lockdown part 2 electric boogaloo

No. 1084840

>>1084539
Not to mention she could just get a retail job. Loads of places are hiring right now.

No. 1084958

File: 1605651842076.jpg (209.25 KB, 1080x1195, Wat.jpg)

Oh please. If you didn't want Ross to be attacked you wouldn't have implied that he was abusive. So much for the "Ross is supportive of our relationship" lie. Why people believed Jared when he said that while providing no evidence is still beyond me.

No. 1084967

>>1084958

I'm sure Jared and Holly would be offended by this, right guys? Ross totally supported them through it all and is one of Jared's closest bros, right? Can't imagine why SOM wouldn't like a fellow Striath shipper

"Jared and Holly approve of and know what I say on this blog"

No. 1084982

>>1084840
Exactly. If my 16 year old cousin can get a job, so can a grown-ass adult with a pointless college degree (though I'm sure retail gigs at Walmart or Costco are just TOO far beneath her hipster ass)

No. 1084984

>>1084958
He can shut the fuck up. If he didn't want Ross getting shit, he would have kept his mouth shut instead of making sly comments about how awful of a person Ross allegedly is.

>"I kinda hate the punk"


Ross, the soft dude who cried a lot and slept on friend's couches after his wife left him to bang his married ex-friend, is a punk? Okay, sadold. Try to slander harder.

No. 1084990

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Imagine being the kind of asshole who literally compares who gets more death threats

"Jared got WAY more!!"

Who gives a fuck?? Also love that he claims he never harassed Heidi, despite the whole bit of him having to apologize to Jared on twitter for replying to Heidi, but okay.

No. 1085015

>>1085002
I should clarify that i don't know if that's from tonight, it was just one of those "related posts" tumblr shows you when you view a post on someone's blog. Either way, it's still super shitty to be like "Yeah, Heidi got threatened with rape and death….BUT JARED GOT WAY MORE!!!"

No. 1085167

>>1084984

I'd guess he's jealous of Ross

No. 1085170

>>1084967
>>1084958

Just fucking tell them why you don't like Ross instead of pretending to be above it all! We already know you aren't.

No. 1085199

>>1084958

SOM is such a POS. We all know why he doesn’t like Ross, it’s because he absolutely drinks up everything Holly and Pedodick tell him. Holly’s butthurt because Ross still has a thriving career after trying to steer clear of the drama, and hers just keeps on sinking into quicksand. So she pushes the “THEY WERE ABUSIVE” storyline wherever she can to gain pity points.

>>1084990

He sure forgot really quick about the time he went at Heidi over some of Jared’s shit, didn’t he? What a hypocrite. No one should get death threats, but whatever Heidi’s supposed crime was, it wasn’t nearly as bad as Jared using his influence to prey on his fans in order to get spank material from them.

No. 1085208

>>1084217
I wonder if by hate forum she's including kiwi farms. Cus even they're getting tired of her woe is me crap lately and Jared's creepy behavior.

No. 1085248

>>1085199
This "friendship" has to self implode eventually, Holly keeps going on about how she's sick of the ~drama~ and yet SOM has basically dedicated his entire internet presence to talking about it. How do they not get tired or creeped out about how much this dick brings up their alleged trauma?

No. 1085275

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>>1084204
Can’t stand the heat, get out of the fucking kitchen.

She was happy being an internet public figure, she decided to fuck her colleague, another public figure, who was MARRIED to yet another, smaller, public figure. She really thought Jared blocking Heidi would make it all go under the rug uh. They’re both ridiculous. I’m glad Heidi didn’t back down one bit.

I’m tired of internet hoes who are trying to achieve some e-celebrity status then whine when people treat them as such.
Obviously people are going to look at your personal life when you career is around putting your life on display.

And where and when did people even threaten anything to her pets? lolcow anons are cunt for sure, but we barely cowtip anyone, let alone would want anything to happen to animals. And is she trying to imply that her birds dying is somehow the fault of … her haters??
Even if I were a hoelly Stan I’d find this leap kinda concerning.

No. 1085284

>>1085248
He insists on stoking it too. All SOM does is parrot the shit she says in private. And honestly if she really cared about putting an end to the drama she would cut off SOM. We know she still actively reads here so she knows the shit SOM gets up to on tumblr and approves. But crying for sympathy about hate forums is easier than doing the bare minimum of cleaning up your social circle.

No. 1085290

>>1084539
she's not well liked in those circles anymore. she was notoriously difficult to work with when she was on that cosplay show and there was a lot of drama WAY back then with a lot of the other people strongly disliking her. she burnt a lot of bridges with the emmy thing too because she presented it like she did everything and was the driving force/main creative when she wasn't. then she scammed Samara's voice actress and lost credibility as being reliable. Not only that but the entire situation was so shitty on her part that she's looked down upon a lot by that community.

Honestly, I'm not sure if she actually could get a job in the field anymore. I think that's why she leans more on her Wizard's connections. She's had too many scandals in the costuming/prop making community.

Sometimes I wonder if she doesn't focus on the affair thing SO intensely to hide all the other really nasty things she's done like suicide baiting over and over again, scamming a cancer patient, claiming other people's work as her own, claiming other's accomplishments as hers and hers alone, being toxic and purposely starting drama in the cosplay community by spreading lies to turn people against each other, presenting herself as a mental health expert when she has no actual education or experience to reflect that, and offering really dangerous mental health advice to minor. Definitely seems to work to keep the focus on constantly talking about the affair.

No. 1085301

>>1085290
> purposely starting drama in the cosplay community by spreading lies to turn people against each other

Deets? I remember this having briefly being touched upon previously but I don’t remember it being talked about in detail and I am genuinely curious.

No. 1085311

>>1085301
Not the anon you're responding too but there is an archived link to Holly's pretty ugly little liars thread that covers her antics going as far back as 2010. I think some of the cosplay drama was mentioned there.

No. 1085332

>>1085311

I've been trying to COMB these threads because I know someone posted the archived version link of the PULL thread with holly's antics, the full page, not just the screenshot, but I can't find it and feel like I'm going insane

No. 1085343

>>1085199
Just seeing how manipulative she is in public, it must really burn her ass that Ross is more successful and independent than her and that she can't control what he does or says about the situation anymore.

No. 1085346

>>1085311
I remember reading that, but it wasn’t too much in depth and mostly related to HoC

No. 1085349

>>1085346

that's because the pull threads are a summary, the real commentary was happening at the time of HoC in one of the cosplay threads, is it /cos? I don't remember, that was where it was commented on as it was being broadcast

No. 1085434

>>1078014
Are you talking about this? https://web.archive.org/web/20190908001838/https://prettyuglylittleliar.net/topic/12725-holly-conradcommanderholly/

If so, to save you time in the future anon, you don’t need the archive link to get to the archive if you have the original link. Just paste the original url into archive.org to find the previous snapshots. If this wasn’t the link you’re looking for, please ignore my dumbass.

No. 1085480

>>1085434

thank you, yes! that's it! I had tried to put the link directly once but it didn't work, I'm not great at archiving

the threads at the time were on /cgl/ and there are screenshots in the PULL thread, too

No. 1085632

File: 1605733610921.png (771.23 KB, 720x827, 1576114497116.png)

sage because OT but this is from another cow's thread and I swear to fuck I thought it was holly at first

No. 1085764

>>1085346
yeah it was all related to HoC when it was being broadcast, so I'm not entirely sure where you can find recaps. Some of it also happened on social media where a few of the girls alluded to one bad seed in the group that ruined the entire thing for them. Everyone knew it was Holly they were mentioning. Needless to say there's a reason why after that she slowly disappeared from that scene and has never even alluded to trying to find a job in that field or that she could get one. She knows she can't. It's always struck me as so weird that she only ever reees about how she lost her ability to make money via Wizards due to Heidi. It's like in the back of her mind she does actually acknowledge that her behavior when she WAS in that field burnt so many bridges that she can't even bring it up too much. She never even acknowledges all that drama anymore, even for her favorite thing in the world: pity points.

No. 1085859

>>1085480
That thread goes into interesting stuff I forgot about.

No. 1085870

>>1085632
There were a few weeks when I kept scrolling past that person's thread and always thought "Holly looks like shit, damn."

No. 1085873

>>1085764
>She never even acknowledges all that drama anymore, even for her favorite thing in the world: pity points.
Because it's pretty well documented that she was a pos at that time. And bringing attention to it might risk showing people that she's been a scumbag for almost a decade now.

No. 1085896

>>1084316
Exactly!! I will never feel bad for Holly. She dug her own grave. And when Heidi was begging them to stop, they gaslight her and made her the villain. She had to unroot her life and leave. Holly just laughed at a woman struggling from a broken marriage, that she caused.

No. 1085918

>>1085434

it’s crazy how in depth this summary is. i had no idea the scammed cancer survivor being mentioned was rana mcanear, or that the jessica girl from the older threads had scammed rana alongside holly and then went MIA the same way she did after getting backlash for trying to smear heidi’s name (alongside holly lmao)

also i know it’s such a nitpick but her bizarre hatred of blonde/redheaded women is so much funnier now knowing that not only did the character she got popular cosplaying get an update with red hair, but that the weirdo she’s obsessed over for god knows how long also has a very obvious preference for redheads

No. 1086049

>>1085873
true. and bioware has notoriously insane fans. she's still looked down upon in the fandom because people really like Rana. She's always been spoken about highly as just being super pleasant at cosplay events and very open to interacting with fans. It sucked that she got taken advantage of like that by a spoiled brat that STILL hasn't fully had to face any consequences because she has family money.

No. 1086168

File: 1605795121954.png (Spoiler Image, 1.19 MB, 1052x1316, 1557511719791.png.f50e509f5bbb…)

Oh, I bet it gave Holly ideas all right, but not about the decor

(spoilered because it's nsfw art of striath)

No. 1086178

>>1086168

Imagine if all the sexy anime art of Striath portrayed them as actually looking like Hored. What a mood killer

No. 1086227

File: 1605800796040.jpg (Spoiler Image, 418.91 KB, 940x668, 20-11-19-10-43-48-666_deco.jpg)

>>1086178
I had to delete again cause I forgot to spoiler, sorry farmhands.

No. 1086243

>>1086227

SadOldSimp in the corner is making me lol.

No. 1086258

>>1086227

The bird poop is sending me, excellent work anon

No. 1086279

>>1086227

I hope heidiofans sees that and cries that he wasn't in this edit because of how completely unimportant he is, even though he thinks himself so vital to the continuation of Striath.

No. 1086323

>>1086258

Every time I look at this picture I see something new. Love the phone opened up to Tinder!

No. 1086412

>>1086227

Please let this be the next thread pic

No. 1086453

>>1086258
>>1086323
Aw, shucks, anons. I knew it would be a missed opportunity not to put the phone in so I reuploaded it the first time just for that. My only regret is that I couldn't find a way to make Diath's hairline receded like Jared's.

No. 1086499

>>1086453
Jared's hairline and Holly's ratty-ass bun n bangs are all that's lacking to make this perfection.

No. 1086514

File: 1605826833847.jpg (32.26 KB, 593x163, jk to hc.jpg)

I didn't see this posted yet and wanted to add it for archive purposes. We sometimes make fun of Hored for Jared not supporting Holly. Here is a time when he actually did. It's likely in response to the recent emotional posts Holly made since the dates match up.
>>1086227
PS one vote for that not to be the thread pic because spoilered thread pics are annoying.

No. 1086517

>>1086227
Pffffffhahahahahahahaha

No. 1086518

>>1086514
Is this where we're supposed to thank PedoDick for doing the bare minimum in making a grand total of 1 (one) tweet towards his new fuckbuddy while liking god knows how many tweets of cosplayers that eerily resemble his ex-wife?

No. 1086519

File: 1605827367200.png (457.26 KB, 590x377, Screenshot_54.png)

I won't look at the replies; Money says Hoelly stans like SadOld are just STEAMING and thinking that Ross is stealing nature from her.

No. 1086525

>>1086518
Not sure if this is directed at me since I posted the screenshot, but if so, I'm not a fan of any of the parties involved here and I'm watching for the trainwreck. IMO, Holly's breakdown, just like Heidi's emotional posts, are more appropriate to say to a close friend, family member, therapist, or partner. That's not the stuff that anyone should be posting on their twitter that's linked to their professional face. Jared's thirstposting is a pr nightmare even without factoring in the fan nudes and dick pics. Jared's consoling of Holly should be private also, with maybe them releasing the occasional photo of them presenting as a couple. But then they wouldn't have umpteen threads on lolcow.

No. 1086674

>>1086514
Wait, who is "blackmailing" her?

No. 1086838

>>1086674

No one is. I’m sure he’s just trying to amp up the drama in order to get more pity Twitch subs from it.

No. 1086842

>>1086674

I THINK the implication was that Heidi having the information of them cheating was her blackmailing Holly into silence about outting her as an abusive monster. Like, Heidi was "blackmailing" her into not calling her abusive publicly by holding the affair over her head. Which is hilarious because like she agreed to do it all discreetly until Jared went and blocked her and posted a statement without her input. But no, in their world she is a comic book supervillain who has an evil plan to expose the poor innocent Striath for their truwu love

Atleast that's the only thing I can think of that he would mean by blackmail

No. 1086877

>>1086842

Which makes Holly's "I had no choice" lie all the more hilarious.

Heidi: "I won't talk about your affair and agree to keep the divorce peaceful if you don't spread that lie that I abused Jared"

Holly spreads lie about Heidi being abusive

Heidi exposed affair

Holly is shocked by this betrayal

No. 1087008

File: 1605880198571.jpg (112.16 KB, 1291x370, Rosslikes.jpg)

This was one of Ross's likes. Knowing how petty Holly is I wouldn't be surprised if this was the reason why she started feeding sadoldmagician the lie that he was abusing her.

No. 1087013

>>1087008
Pretty sure holly, heidi and jared liked similar tweets too recently and got shit on for doing so..with the exception of heidi of course.

>>1086842
By literal definition she was blackmailed by heidi, there's no ifs or buts about it, if you state you can/will/would release information if someone does xyz, you're blackmailing them into silence/being obedient, period.

Considering holly dug her own grave, no one cares but you cannot deny that's exactly what happened. Otherwise, there could be a lot more going on that none of us know about because we know none of these people personally.

>>1086838
>in order to get more pity Twitch subs from it.
Looking over his stats, he seem to be getting subs just fine like every other twitch streamer who does virtually nothing to earn them.

No. 1087017

>>1086842
>until Jared went and blocked her and posted a statement without her input
lmao did Holly tell Jared to block Heidi?

No. 1087019

File: 1605881412730.jpg (635.93 KB, 1080x1783, KF.jpg)

Even kiwi farms, who were pretty forgiving of her up till now, are tired of her "woe is me crap".

No. 1087021

>>1087013
>"She was blackmailed by Heidi"
Oh get off of it - Someone saying "Don't spread slanderous lies about me being abusive" isn't blackmail, it's just asking them to be honest for once in their life.

They were doing some real mental gymnastics and emotional abuse towards Heidi and she finally snapped. Admittedly (by heidi herself!), she could've handled things differently - but a person can only take their husband's whore lying about them being abusive for so long before they start to swing back. Holly swung with lies, Heidi swung with evidence of Hoelly and PedoDick's lies.

No. 1087027

>>1087017

I wouldn’t put it past her.

>>1087019

Good on KF. Glad to see that others see past Hoelly’s and PedoDick’s BS.

No. 1087049

>>1087013

By that logic you could say Holly was blackmailing Heidi by being like "say anything and I will out you for being an evil abuser"

Lets all just agree that there was no blackmail, just three people who knew bad things about the others. Was heidi supposed to just forget the affair so she couldn't be accused of blackmail? There was no blackmail, just a showdown of information.

I know people like to think that Heidi was behind everything including the pedo stuff but all she did was say that Jared cheated on her. It's not her fault other people came out of the woodwork to share their experience with Jared. She was just lucky that everyone else took her lead and outted him

No. 1087069

>>1087049
But we know that it was Heidi who told Holly not to speak, not the other way round.

Just accept it was blackmail and stop trying to change the definitions of words.

No. 1087071

>>1087049
I mean, no one said it doesn't go both ways, it's still a form of blackmail. That's not being said to trivialize EITHER side of the coin, it's just explaining what jared could potentially be talking about that WE know of.

No. 1087072

>>1087069

Fine. Just feels weird calling it blackmail when it's literally someone being like "hey, please dont tell these lies about me to the public. If you do I'll have to tell the truth about what you did to me to defend myself" especially since Holly and Jared had a large platform that Heidi definently did not have. I'm sure she was scared, she lost her marriage, had to pick up everything and move, and had to live with the knowledge that at any time her husbands mistress could tweet her lunacy accusations about Heidi being a monster and send her large fanbase after her.

I guess I'm just having a hard time seeing Holly as the victim

No. 1087081

>>1087072

Yeah, it sounds more to me like the consequences of her shitty actions rather than blackmail. Just like Jared’s “cancellation.”

No. 1087101

>>1087069
>But we know that it was Heidi who told Holly not to speak, not the other way round

No, there is no evidence of this conversation ever taking place. Neither has actually claimed this, either.

"Blackmail" implies that Jared or Holly had a personal secret that was their own business to keep private. Calling this situation "blackmail" assumes that Heidi had no right to talk about her own experience that was incredibly devastating and life changing to her personally. You're basically making the claim that she OWED Jared and Holly her silence because it only pertained to them, and she was somehow wrong for sharing her own experience. But it wasn't their own private secret that didn't affect her. Holly and Jared were not entitled to her silence.

Jared and Holly explicitly framed this as "blackmail" because they feel entitled to do and say whatever they want with no consequences or retribution. They're using this word to insist on their victimhood. It's all a part of their campaign to control what info gets out, and how people talk about it. "We were blackmailed" is their mental gymnastics version of, "we should be the only ones allowed to speak".

No. 1087104

>>1087101
Exactly. The only way they could call it blackmail is if Heidi explicitly said something like "If you go public, I'll release the lewd messages between the two of you to the public" (All she's ever said about that has been "This happened" and not delved into specifics, unlike Hoelly who released the sexts between Jared and Heidi, mentioning sexual fantasies between them and Heidi's LDR)

No. 1087130

>>1087101

Thank you. I knew there was something just wrong about calling it blackmail.

No. 1087244

Blackmail is blackmail. If there's truth to Heidi saying something along the lines of "unless you do x I will do y" that's blackmail. Whether or not it's her right to tell the story, just because it's truthful that doesn't make telling someone else that you will do something based on their choices is hands down blackmail.

What's more interesting to me is the idea that somebody else blackmailed them/her, and maybe she didn't diarrhea her "side" of something else.

No. 1087251

>>1087244
There’s a difference between retaliation and blackmail. I’ve seen no proof of any “arrangement.” The most we have is Heidi trying to get Jared to talk to her.
In terms of releasing shit, Heidi retaliated to the claim that their split was amicable with the truth, the claim that it wasn’t cheating cuz poly with more context, and so on…
for it to be blackmail, she would have said “you better stop or ill release the n00dz” and this didn’t happen.

No. 1087265

>>1087251
That's not how blackmail works. It only has to be a threat of reciprocal action based on non-public information.

As an example: Heidi blackmailed Jared when she said she would ruin his career by releasing the information that he's a cheating piece of shit. She could have just gone public with it without the warning and it would not be blackmail or any other kind of manipulation. However, giving a threat with a qualification is blackmail.

Is she wrong for doing it? Heck no. Was it still blackmail. Yes, by definition. Does it matter that she did? Not really.

No. 1087316

File: 1605906087812.png (21.07 KB, 920x170, goross.png)

>>1087019

Well, for once I actually agree with something said on KF

Ross absolutely deserves to come out on top in this particular situation!

No. 1087336

>>1086514
>>1086518

No but it keeps every Striath fan's panties wet

No. 1087381

>>1087316
>same level of depressing and boring as Spoony

Haha, holy damn, that's a burn.

No. 1087386

>>1087316

He sure does, good for him. Hoelly must be seething.

>>1086514

Yes, PedoDick is showing some support here, but it sounds like something anyone would say to any of their friends. I would think there would be more, considering it’s towards his supposed girlfriend.

No. 1087436

>>1086514

This is literally just him trying to make her revert to backpedaling the second he noticed her on the cusp of coming to terms with the actual reality of her life. Classic avoidant behaviour where he neglects her for the most part and then when she shows any sign of disillusionment (shes super delusional to have come this far tho) he half asses some lies to feed her so she can scrounge some self pity enough to stay complacent in a shituation.
Classic avoidant anxious relationship which ends in the anxious becoming super bitter and the avoidant dying alone.
Also they were clearly sub-posting each other with that lame ass psuedo intellectual garbage about "we have been hurt, we need to heal" quotables on pastel backgrounds.
Youd think if lolcow and the ~internet~ was such a source of pain these clowns would get a damn diary
Also sorry if i saged wrong im so crap at this

No. 1087488

>>1087316
I legitimately think that's why Hored has been shit talking Ross lately. They hate that after all the crap Jared and Holly put him through Ross still came out happy and the most successful, while Holly, who admitted this herself, is miserable and struggling. Jared been losing subs and views as well and he admits that he's making less money now too. Even Heidi hasn't tweeted anything about her divorce and only seems focus on crafting and her cat and seems happier for it.

No. 1087519

>>1087488

Sorry if I sound like a dumbass, but is hored "jared and holly" "fans of jared and holly", or does it apply to both? It always confuses me what people mean when they say that & post context doesn't make it clear to me.

No. 1087534

>>1087519
Hored is Jared/Holly themselves; If someone means their fans, they typically say Hored Stans or something to that ilk.

No. 1087554

>>1087519
HOlly + jaRED.

It's like Bennifer, Brangelina or Destiel.

No. 1087574

>>1087436

Not to mention a HUGE hint: "you didn't do anything wrong"

because if she had… then it's another story. Holly "didn't do anything wrong"… to him

Jared is the one person I truly believe would be able to slap some reality into Holly. She is so deep in her delusion that she is "saving" a man who really, really doesn't need to be saved. He is fine. He is still thirsty, he's still got his platforms, he's still got his fans, and he still gets money, maybe a bit less than before, but enough to live by.

Jared never changed. But Holly is never going to realize that he depends on her to keep it that way. Two toxic, shitty people found each other and all they have are each other patting on the back saying they are victims of the world, while they ruined the relationships of those that cared for them.

And Jared will never, ever let her see that she really did choose poorly. Holly gives him buzzwords and mental health mantras to drown out the sliver of conscience he could have had. Jared gives his scraps of validation to a narcissistic, mentally ill woman who scorched the earth for him and nobody will touch her with a ten-foot pole online, all because they played a DnD game together.

No. 1087633

File: 1605935349702.jpg (301.08 KB, 1048x1217, Surprised kf.jpg)

The one thing that continues to shock me is that people are shocked that he hasn't changed. That leafyishere tweet should have been a big hint.

No. 1087656

>>1087633
That's just it (and fuck yall for making me agree with kf) - If Jared had just voted in a poll or something, nobody would be saying anything. The fact that he's going out of his way to make sexual jokes, to hit on women and tell them about the thirst? That says he hasn't learned a single thing from what happened and is just waiting for everyone to move on so he can go back to doing it again.

Hoelly went full scorched Earth and for what? A weird wormdick who may or may not be rubbing one out to nudes of minors that he abused his fame to solicit, fucking anything with a pulse that will hold still for five seconds, and condones her bird hording. You literally ruined any semblance of a career because you were….idk too cheap to go buy a good dildo. Jesus christ, that's depressing, Hoelly.

No. 1087711

So for him to be doing this so openly again, does this mean Jared and Holly have an open relationship? Considering how insecure Holly is that's a big if. Also this confirms that the Instagram post whining about sexual stuff was some bs, again.

No. 1087726

Found a bunch of alts on Twitter lol.

No. 1087730

>>1087726

Well, let’s see them!

No. 1087732

>>1079454
mine never shows that kinda stuff. just shows the exact things i 'like' and favorite on insta. it shows you what you look at and like, so its not surprising jareds looks the way it does

No. 1087745

File: 1605954579667.jpg (489.54 KB, 1054x1364, Galvin Whitealt.jpg)

>>1087730
There was a short Twitter thread where people were discussing cancel culture and someone casually brought up ProJared and this alt came out of nowhere defending him.

No. 1087746

File: 1605954907339.jpg (410.36 KB, 1048x1625, Galvin White alt.jpg)

People accused it of being Jared's throwaway but I think it's Galvin White again because this account was created the around the time he became inactive, about a month ago. And he uses the same language Galvin White used from that tweet Jared liked.

No. 1087750

File: 1605955609206.jpg (418.13 KB, 1035x1339, Noticed 2.jpg)

This hasn't gone unnoticed either. As this guy noticed it too. There's another one that of course retweets sadoldmagician.

No. 1087780

>>1087711
I don’t think Holly would actually be comfortable with an open relationship but she has painted herself into a corner. Jared has openly stated that he considers polyamory to be part of his sexual identity and they’ve called Heidi abusive for not being 100% supportive of this, so what is Holly going to do? If she tells Jared that she’s not okay with him waving his dick at other women she’s being just as “abusive” as Heidi was.

No. 1087787

File: 1605963023070.jpg (97.48 KB, 592x888, 410d9d6ad4ddf3235f73707394bd5e…)

>>1087780
Advice for Holly, for when she lurks here

No. 1087791

>>1087780

I guess polyamory is alot easier to swallow when you're the other woman outside of the relationship. Once he is all yours you gotta be the Heidi, so let's see how it goes when the new Hoelly arrives and starts pushing her boundaries.

It's one thing to be okay with his totally unique LGBTQ+ identity of polyamory, but its another when he is publicly thirsting after hot cosplay/twitch girls, especially when she is going through a crisis with her birds. That's just embarrassing, he is straight up humiliating her but she doesn't care because he is Diath uwu

No. 1087836

File: 1605967934634.jpg (431.43 KB, 1027x1096, 5487.jpg)

I'm confused, wasn't she just begging her fans for money because she couldn't afford her birds? But the next day she's taking in more birds? Has the money situation been solved?

No. 1087846

>>1087836

Pretty sure she's just an animal hoarder.

No. 1087870

>>1087836
The bird hoarding thing is just indicative of her complete lack of boundaries or priorities.

She literally waddles around parking lots trying to catch random injured pigeons. These are not domesticated animals, they are not pets, and they have nothing to give back to a caretaker or to the world at large. They aren't suited for adopting out or releasing back into the wild. They're the bottom of the food chain, prey animals that would die if nature ran its course. But Holly insists on collecting them to "save" them from the natural cycle of life.

Then they live the rest of their useless lives as a drain on her resources. The pigeons don't even like her, they fear her (she has made jokes about how she's a "big kaiju" who stomps into the coop to clean it, which terrifies them). I'm sure she "cares" about them in the sense that it hurts her bleeding heart to see an injured pigeon hopping around, but there are literally too many to even have names or distinct personalities. Being a "rescuer" is a part of her identity and reputation, but it's debatable of it's actually helpful to anyone. She takes good care of them, but what's the point? So they can live a little longer in captivity? It's more of a feel-good vanity project than it is reasonable… so of course she's completely dedicated to it and prioritizes it over everything else in her life, including getting a job or producing anything.

No. 1087878

>>1087836

if only five days ago she was struggling so hard financially and was concerned for her birds’ well-being, then what could have possibly happened between then and now where her birds are all fine again and she suddenly has room for another one?

i’m guessing her emotionally manipulative twitter sperg for pin sales worked and now she can backpedal and act like she wasn’t implying her birds were dying less than a week ago. once a scammer always a scammer

No. 1087884

>>1087021
Did Heidi provide evidence of Hored’s infidelity outside of her own testimony? I went digging, but couldn’t find screens of anything besides her own words. Legitimately want to see that evidence if it’s out there.

No. 1087888

>>1087750

Oh yeah, that definitely sounds like Gavin White to me. Seems like he’s got a few alts to harass anyone who dares to say anything bad about PedoDick. I saw him say something about how he fights so hard for Jared because he had something similar happen to him, and I just roll my eyes.

>>1087836

I thought the same thing. She was crying about money so hard, but she’s able to take in another bird that will potentially drain her of more money? Makes me think that her money problems weren’t as bad as she’d been making them out to be.

>>1087884

The fan who came out to say that Jared fucked her and left her, supposedly sent screenshots/proof to Heidi. Being as Heidi was going through the divorce process, she was smart enough not to put that out there. So there is stuff that isn’t out there on the internet. Same with the stuff that Heidi pulled from Jared’s old phone.

No. 1087890

>>1087836
Birds are not that expensive to keep/care for just like many "Rescue" dog/cats. When did she beg for money though (legit curious since her tweet storms pushes things out so quickly)? I know she mentioned her income was down and things are tight, but I'd sooner believe holly than most "big name personalities" telling you to go their patreon /onlyfans because youtube is paying them $13k instead of $13.5k because a few vids get demonetized.

>>1087884
Probably not. Just words we have to believe from Heidi but no one else.

No. 1087894

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>>1087890

What were you saying about birds not being expensive?

No. 1087895

>>1087884

i’m pretty sure she either still has a case open against them or she’s unable to post them for legal reasons. i remember people nagged heidi to post the private messages a lot when this all started but seemed to forget she was in the middle of a divorce process where she had to provide proof that there was infidelity involved, so she’s probably not gonna be able to share those messages

she did post a shit ton of messages between her, her best friend, holly and also messages she had with her counsellor a few threads back that definitely give a better insight into the situation though

No. 1087898

>>1087890
This whole post is wrong. Congrats newfag.

>>1087894
She's such an idiot. She deserves all of this.

No. 1087900


No. 1087901

>>1087836

She has an image to maintain, she just doesn't want to pay her own money to do it.

No. 1087906

>>1087890

You’ve obviously never had pets.

And Heidi ended up getting alimony, to the chagrin of Jared’s defenders, so that ought to tell you something.

No. 1087907

>>1087888
I’m reluctant to refer to that fan encounter as a good example because after Jared apologized to her and sent her screens, she ended up defending his case.

>>1087895
I agree, there are hundreds of messages out there that we will probably never see, which is fine. I was just wondering if anon knew something I didn’t.

No. 1087908

>>1087907
Washington law, it's illegal to share someone's texts or conversations like that without the consent of at least one involved member. Holly could share all her cherry-picked garbage because it was between Heidi and Jared, the latter of whom consented, but Heidi obviously wouldn't be able to get consent from either Jared or Holly to release those texts publically.
In a divorce case though, that's fair game.

No. 1087909

>>1087906
I think the rule in Washington is one year alimony per 3 years of marriage for all cases. Now, if Heidi keeps getting cash long-term, that might be something interesting.

No. 1087928

>>1087894

Her smug faced profile pic is killing me with this text.

And why do anons always show up to rehash unfunny bullshit about Heidi whenever Holly's drama is getting good? I just want to laugh at Holly's crazy ass, I don't care about Heidi

No. 1087944

Heidi's cat Aries has been a bit unwell lately and she had vets bills but didn't ask for donations just put up prints of Aries on her store and didn't try to guilt trip her followers like Hoelly

No. 1087958

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>>1087944
Kinda looks like she did ask for donations tho?

No. 1087964

>>1087958
She did, but its heidi, so we have to ignore things like that.
(Ko-fi is literally a donation platform.)

No. 1087970

Not as manipulative as hoelly though she hasn't really complained about major lack of funds she works to put items on her store and makes shit to sell the hag witch begs straight off and pours on the guilt. Heidi is on a lone income. Hoelly has Pedodick to pick up some financial slack.

No. 1087971

>>1087908

it’s funny that even in the eyes of the law jared absolutely cheated while he was married to heidi, i don’t doubt for a second that he tried to use the “b-but we were poly!” excuse during the divorce process as well but whatever evidence heidi had in texts, photos etc proved that it was bullshit, she wouldn’t have gotten alimony if he was the innocent party out of the two of them

but his whiteknights would probably rather accuse the legal system of being gaslighting abusers than admit holly and jared are liars

>>1087928

i truly believe it’s the same anon over and over again pretending to be unbiased but subtly pulling a “but heidi!!1” after almost every post in this specific thread lmao

No. 1087985

>>1087971
In Washington, alimony is awarded to the spouse with the greatest need (ie the unemployed spouse in a single income household). As far as I can tell, it’s impossible to determine whether Heidi is receiving payment to help her maintain her standard of living, which is the norm in WA, or if the payments are a form of reparation.

No. 1087988

File: 1605983576322.jpeg (332.58 KB, 750x869, D9217738-1D88-472D-A6B3-2692A5…)

interesting that she’s started publicly throwing jabs at ross not long after her whiteknight got called out here for doing the exact same thing. it seems like she’s been encouraging the narrative that he was abusive behind the scenes like we’ve been speculating

No. 1087995

>>1087988

Not to sound too much like a stan, but if her idea of an abusive partner is someone who took part in her bullshit ego projects like HoC, helped shield her from the drama that followed, put up enough with her narcissistic bullshit to marry her, then helped rebuild her image by getting her involved in his projects, then sign me the hell up for getting abused by Ross.

The fact that he stayed neutral when he could have tried to go scorched earth after she cheated on him with Spoony Jr and didn't tells you everything about the reality of their situation.

No. 1087999

>>1087995
>The fact that he stayed neutral

Just like when Jontron stayed neutral when people tried to drag him into it. It doesn't say anything other than he didn't want to be dragged into drama whether he has skeletons or not.

No. 1088003

>>1087970

Exactly. Hoelly cried on Twitter about her birds and put out a link to buying her stuff, imploring people to help her out, while Heidi is more like, hey if you want to help cool, if not I’ll still take care of my pet anyway. Considering Hoelly keeps on taking on pets that need help/medical assistance it smells kind of scammy to me.

No. 1088011

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sorry for samefag and bad cropping, but gavin white is still lurking through the projared tag and pestering people, fucking hilarious that he’s calling them nobodies as if he isn’t

nothing says “i’m a somebody” quite like spending every single day butting into conversations amongst random twitter users to bully and harass them on behalf of two people who don’t give a shit about you

he’s also in another thread agreeing with people calling heidi crazy and talking about how he wants a psychologist to review the livestream she did a while back, he’s an absolute loser

No. 1088018

>>1087836

Fun fact: bringing a new bird into an existing flock that already has issues with illness, specifically an injured one that hasn't received any kind of vet care yet, is just ASKING for disaster. You'd think someone who claims to love birds would know that.

No. 1088025

>>1087988
People kept quiet when she made the allegations about Heidi since she wasn't as well known, but Ross has a pretty dedicated fanbase through GameGrumps, so I'd LOVE to watch that blow up in her face when she tries to attack her relatively well-loved ex.

No. 1088032

>>1088011

Yikes. Maybe he’s the one that needs a psychiatrist. He should really be careful, Heidi could probably get him for libel or slander with the way he throws around things like she’s crazy and she’s psychotic.

No. 1088041

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>>1088032

i’ll post it here for the sake of archiving. he admits he knows nothing about “psych stuff” yet happily feeds into the narrative that heidi is some unhinged bipolar abuser

but holly spergs on twitter about how online gossip forums are trying to kill her birds or has a meltdown over clown emojis and it’s radio silence from her stans

No. 1088045

File: 1605987260775.png (59.92 KB, 534x590, fruityass21.png)

>>1088041

idk who @fruityass21 is, but they're on a roll today!

No. 1088050

File: 1605987545784.png (61.77 KB, 470x540, 11-24-2019.png)

>>1088045

I love how this one's getting all riled up & running a whole thread of tweets responding to a tweet from a year ago.

No. 1088053

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>>1088050

"Only I can tell who was abused & who isn't!"

No. 1088057

File: 1605987996307.png (12.19 KB, 476x160, thanksmom.png)

>>1088053
>>1088050
>>1088045

…But of course Jared's audience is strictly 18+!!!

(I was wondering why this person had been on Twitter since 2009, yet writes like a tragically naïve 14-year old…

No. 1088059

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>>1088057

Hey kid, that was the point. Congrats for falling for it hook, line, & sinker.

No. 1088060

File: 1605988314087.png (54.13 KB, 484x566, heymom.png)

>>1088057


Hey, mom of 'Crazel', it's time to either take your account back or delete it, because your kid is using it to harass someone!

No. 1088066

File: 1605988703319.png (33.5 KB, 564x496, onamission.png)

>>1088060

Your child's obsession with this man is beyond concerning

No. 1088067

File: 1605988724416.png (32.98 KB, 566x452, onamission1.png)

>>1088066
>>1088060

Seriously, this is not healthy

No. 1088073

>>1088053
Good god, who the fuck tries to gatekeep discussions of abuse quite like Hoelly and her stans? "Well you can talk about it, but only when WE say you can and only in ways that WE approve of!".

No. 1088076

>>1088060
I blocked them, but they went through a good years worth of my tweets to like a few that I made against Hoelly when the drama was still juicy and fresh. This is the only reason I want kids to go back to in-person learning, so 14 year olds like this are forced off of the internet and back into the real world.

No. 1088082

>>1088066
>>1088060
>>1088057

Are we sure "my mom let me use this account" isn't a joke? Everything about this user and their tweets is absolutely garbage, but that looked like "omg I'm so quirky and funny I'm pretending to take over my mom's account lol" (which is also abusively garbage, don't get me wrong)

No. 1088090

>>1088060

they literally described holly in that first tweet, if this is actually a child they need their internet shut off

worse yet, they’ve used the projared tag multiple times in these rants and yet none of the orbiters who lurk the tag have said anything about it, just fuelled it

as long as they can spin their narrative they’d turn a blind eye to a possible kid becoming unhealthily obsessed with two creeps in their thirties

No. 1088101

>>1087780
Wait he considers polyamory to be part of his sexual identity? When did he say this? Genuinely curious.

No. 1088107

File: 1605991270965.png (242.98 KB, 478x514, SOWHOLSOME.png)

>>1088082

Their tweets prior to >>1088057 are about multiple subjects, then once 'Crazel' supposedly took over it's been nothing but Hored vs Heidi crap.

No. 1088108

That fruityass person writes like a child or at least an adult with developmental issues. Either way someone needs to step in cause their obsession with Jared and replying to year old tweets is concerning.

No. 1088117

>>1088108

This.

Seriously, cheating-crap aside, the man was exposed for having parasocial relationships with his fans.

Sadly, I think their probably a teen, because their tweets seem to fluctuate with intensity.

No. 1088118

>>1088108
yeah i think they're a kid

No. 1088122

>>1088108
>>1088117
>>1088118

But….JARED'S FANBASE IS ALL ADULTS!!! /s

No. 1088127

>>1088122


…And yet I keep seeing teenagers go after Heidi on Jared or Holly's behalf…

No. 1088131

File: 1605992576563.jpg (325.92 KB, 1017x1400, Unhinged .jpg)

I don't get why Galvin White locks his main account to create another doing the same thing that got him hated in the first place, harassing strangers who don't like Jared. Well Jared liked one of his tweets so clearly he approves of this toxic behavior.

No. 1088134

>>1088131

lmao dude actually went 'private'?
What the fuck did he expect after writing all that inflammatory shit???

No. 1088151

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>>1088134
Sure did, just to run to his alt

No. 1088153

On the topic of Jared's supposed "18+ audience" - wasn't he a guest in some nickelodeon show once? I think I remember it being mentioned at the start of the drama

No. 1088154

>>1087971
>i truly believe it’s the same anon over and over again pretending to be unbiased but subtly pulling a “but heidi!!1” after almost every post in this specific thread
Oh absolutely, it's always the same format. "But Heidi/it's Heidi so…" and a halfhearted criticism of Holly sometimes to throw off the scent. They've been here to derail every thread. They've been consistently asshurt that other anons don't care enough to talk about Heidi as much as them.

No. 1088157

>>1088153
Yep. His hardcore stans claim it doesn't matter though - him only playing older video games clearly only attracts adult fans, fuck all of that "clearly aimed at younger audience" shit he's also doing, I guess.

No. 1088170

File: 1605995621241.png (173.75 KB, 1040x668, fruitytruthblog.png)

This user seems to just be vomiting the shit Jared/Holly stans posted a year ago. Like, they link the "truth blog", a tumblr that hasn't been updated since sept 2019 and not the bullshit blogs of sadoldmagician/heidiofans or something actually recent.

No. 1088182

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>>1088101

I think he tried to use "this is my identify now" as an uno reverse when Heidi asked to close the relationship. That way suddenly Heidi was the abuser for making him change who he was and go against his sexual identity

This is also why I guarantee an open relationship was his deal with Holly. He seems too attached to the idea to let it go, and she is too attached to him to deny him any thing he wants.

No. 1088185

>>1088118

They sure sound like it, yeeesh. But hey, remember that Jared’s content only draws 18+ viewers, everyone! /s

Whoever that kid is, they’re going to end up getting their account shut down due to harassment.

No. 1088191

>>1088003

Holly didnt just ask for donations for her birds like Heidi did. If she did I wouldn't care like I dont care with Heidi, it's normal for people to ask for that. My problem is that she brought up the drama yet again for more sympathy points.

There is a big difference "hey my pet has an expensive vet bill so here is a dono link or a link to my business if you wanna help out" and "MY PETS ARE DYING AND MY LIFE HAS BEEN TERRIBLE SINCE THE DRAMA. PEOPLE THREATENDED THAT THEY WOULD KILL MY BIRDS AND NOW THEY ARE DYING. PLEASE GIVE ME MONEY" especially when less than a week later she is posting about her new bird

Besides, heidi has long since quit the influencer game and is focused on her small business and is living on a single small income, I believe her when she says she needs money for an unexpected bill. I have a hard time believing a moderately successful influencer who has a patreon, store, AND active twitch chat/donos needs help with a vet, especially since she lives with another moderately successful influencer (who is currently lamenting that he couldn't drop hundreds on a new console…)

I've said it before and I'll say it again: whenever Hored are lamenting about their finances it's because they cant live the same bougie lifestyle they used to. They are fine financially, they aren't losing their house or anything anytime soon. But now they cant go out to dinner every night and buy expensive niche witch decor and get expensive coffee at niche indie coffee shops three times a day, boo hoo :(

No. 1088211

File: 1605999197281.png (1.34 MB, 640x1136, C664ABCA-08BF-4593-A39B-55E6A4…)

Fucking seriously

No. 1088218

>>1088211
This is a 30-something adult man asking for simp-style gifts. I would feel way less negatively if he asked for game suggestions that he hasn't yet shown with a place to submit suggestions but also offered a PO box where people could send him things. This entire trio is just the picture of unprofessional. They're a slideshow of everything not to do as a public figure or business owner.
Also, is he asking for stuff because Holly recently begged and got what she wanted and he saw that and wants it for himself, or is there a bit of financial difficulty in the Hored household?

No. 1088226

>>1088067
Saying Jared reminds them of Rose Quartz is hilarious since most of the SU fan base thinks of her as a selfish abuser that seemed to have good intentions but only did what she did to fulfil her own curiosity.

>>1088191
This. Holly comes off as those munchies that are always asking for donations for their medical bills and then they show off their haul of expensive rare collectors items. It's even worse since she has the means to have a more viable income but she keeps ruining her own chances by making most of her streams pity parties and doesn't do anything interesting.

No. 1088237

>>1088226

comparing jared to rose quartz is a hideous offence to her character

No. 1088241

>>1088218

I get the feeling that Jared doesn't financially contribute to the household, she just spoils him rotten

No. 1088243

>>1088191
>>Besides, heidi has long since quit the influencer game and is focused on her small business and is living on a single small income, I believe her when she says she needs money for an unexpected bill
>talking about Heidi being poor like it's a good thing

No. 1088246

>>1088243

I dont think it's a good thing she is poor. I saying that because of her financial situation I think that her asking for money for a vet bill is alot more justified than Holly doing so, which is why I wont condemn her like I did Hoelly

No. 1088380

>>1088154
I feel a lot of empathy for Heidi so I have a bias towards supporting her trying to work through trauma via twitter but she REALLY needs to find a healthy outlet because the comfort from venting is very fleeting. The people who criticize her here aren’t always wrong to-but unfortunately they have been childish about it and super reactive so they don’t end up making any good points or adding anything valuable.

I’m not gonna pretend like I find Holly likeable but she clearly has this need to feel “wanted” and to “fix” things. Birds, people, probably friends too. She clearly sees herself as a super good person and a helpless victim when facing consequences. She doesn’t see her actions as anything but good intentions, like other anons said.

Could be the issue with Ross, he didn’t need her even though he loved her. Maybe they were toxic to each other. My only impression of Ross comes from when he joins Vinny’s streams, so who knows.

>>1088191
> My problem is that she brought up the drama yet again for more sympathy points.

Even despite the money between both her and Jared if she was pushing for people to buy pins or whatever for a less important reason or just because she enjoys creating that’s respectable. Shame the self-pity has been working in her favour.

Good luck to her birds, regardless.

No. 1088381

>>1088211

He can’t just go back to that game store where he bought all those other retro games? He seems to be okay on money so it shouldn’t be a problem.

No. 1088439

>>1088211
I've said it before, I'll say it again - Creators, specifically those who have established careers with MAJOR corporations (or did before he whipped his dick out), bumming games off of fans? Fucking disgusting behavior; It's abusing his fame for free games that he could easily buy elsewhere and is only slightly less gross than abusing his fame for nudes.

No. 1088440

>>1088380
>"could be the issue with Ross, he didn't need her even though he loved her"

Their marriage dissolved when Hoelly decided she needed to chase wormdick to Washington - not because Ross wasn't willing to do what makes it work (A dude who spends weeks, if not months, after his divorce crashing on friend's couches doesn't much seem like a guy who WANTED his marriage to be over). Also, he's repeatedly asked to be left alone and left out of this - what is your weird fascination with dragging him back down and into Hoelly's self-induced shitshow?

No. 1088442

>>1088211

W E L P

I guess Heidi's games really were mainly props for him.

No. 1088444

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there is a difference between just liking sexy cosplayer pictures and replying to one saying they are your thirst follow lmao

No. 1088447

>>1088444

Seriously. Don’t forget his whole “Oh I don’t know how all these thirst pictures showed up in my IG feed!” He can just cut the crap, we know he’s back into the habits he was into before. But nice try of him to pretend otherwise.

No. 1088467

>>1088444
isn't that Cole Sprouse's ex too? kek

No. 1088500

>>1088467
when cows collide

No. 1088505

>>1088444
Oh what a bullshit excuse. Even your friends on kiwi farms aren't buying that one anymore.

No. 1088510

File: 1606025898805.jpg (95.09 KB, 1037x384, Sadoldbitch.jpg)

Oh please. If you want the drama to be over cus it happened so long ago then why did you go out of your way to follow a blog made a year after the drama happened? And why do you continue to shit talk Holly and Jared's exes? If you cared that much you wouldn't answer any asks about the drama but you continue to do so because out of all the asks on your blog it's ones about the drama that get the most likes on your empty blog.

No. 1088511

>>1088510
Motherf literally started his tumblr blog to get his business up into the drama.

Guess super-besties Hored are realizing he's doing them more harm than good and are pressuring him to stop.

No. 1088519

>>1088510

>If you cared that much you wouldn't answer any asks about the drama but you continue to do so because out of all the asks on your blog it's ones about the drama that get the most likes on your empty blog.


Fuck I just noticed! Sadoldmagician, a guy who dedicated his life to Jared/Holly to an extent that he's "friends" with them, gets less attention on his "I'm Projared's friend ask me questions" blog than heidiofans, a literal nobody with no connections (that I've noticed) to any of them. How sad is sadold that he's getting outdone by some no name dickhead nobody knows or cares about outside of that blog? This is hilarious.

No. 1088541

>>1088440
I don’t think anon was criticising Ross, but saying that Holly probably lost interest in him because he’s not a sickly bird(-like man) who needs to be rescued by her. That’s not a fault on his part. Holly wants to be the underdog hero protagonist in her own life story and a stable, loving relationship doesn’t really fit into that. Her relationship with Jared gives her a villain (Heidi) and the “us against the world” kind of drama that she craves, which is why she keeps dragging it up whenever it starts to die down.

No. 1088543

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>>1088440

A lot of people don’t want to be talked about or have their lives poked at on LC. Even you are not leaving him out of it, posting about him and then saying he asked not to be involved in the same post.

What I meant was he wasn’t a “project” Holly could take on which wasn’t a dig that he didn’t measure up somehow. She didn’t feel important as “Ross’ wife” or whatever her excuse was for chasing the high of getting attention from an ugly, lanky nerd during a literal game that spilled from fantasy into a fucked-up real life situation. Instead of communicating properly, acting appropriately (or any other mature options one would expect from a thirty-whatever year old woman in a marriage) she decided to cheat, manipulate, lie, omit facts, and the list goes on.

Ross is a grown ass man, I’m sure he can handle being mentioned occasionally especially when SadOld can’t resist implying he knows something bad about “the punk” to prove he isn’t actually just a weird fan with a VIP hiking pass from Hored but TRULY a close friend who is confided in.

No. 1088569

>>1088510
>"Fuckin why does anyone care anymore"

Maybe because the one you're simping for brings it up every time she faces a negative consequence to her actions. Maybe because, over a year later, you're now trying to slander Ross to make him out to be abusive when even Hoelly herself had admitted to being abusive in the past.

No. 1088612

>>1088439
>>1088381

Sage for pointless context, but GameCube games have become much rarer on the market and thus more expensive as of late, so he's likely begging because of that. Heidi seems like the type who would have had a solid GameCube collection, so could have been one of the few sections that got wrecked when she got her collection back.

No. 1088637

>>1088612
There is legitimately NO EXCUSE for this. Asking fans for their games because he is either (A) too lazy to look for them himself or (B) too cheap to shell out the cash for them is just pathetic and ridiculous. Jared is the one with the industry connections who chose to make old, harder-to-find-anymore games his career. The responsibility for sourcing and paying for said games is on him - not on his fans.

No. 1088640

sage for random thought I remembered, didn't Holly mention that her bird obsession started because her grandpa used to take her birdwatching in the forest? I am pretty sure I read this from her, probably in a tumblr or an interview

makes sense why she chose birds then, trying to fix up the few good memories she had of her childhood and her grandpa lol

No. 1088653

>>1088637

"I just want to point out that the people who accused me are E-Begging! - don't you guys think that's pretty sus???"

1 year later

"Hey guys, can you send me some games, pls?"

No. 1088671

>>1088510

-Makes Tumblr blog to keep talking about the drama, specifically to talk shit about Hored’s exes.
-Gets mad when people continue to talk about the drama.

Oookay, SadOldSimp.

>>1088637

Yeah, this is just gross and pathetic. I don’t care how expensive GameCube games are now, don’t go begging your fans for them.

No. 1088679

>>1088640
Are you retarded, anon? I dislike Holly, but that's kind of sad.

No. 1088686

>>1088679


I don't think it's sad anon, she had good moments with her grandpa, but it explains her bird obsession. It also explains her weird savior complex on animals she clearly can't afford to take care of properly which isn't only harming the birds, but stressing herself out too

Instead of keeping things under control and caring for birds she can budget for and give them space she's just hoarding them and then begging for money. She's 1 person not a bird society, she doesn't have the space nor the money nor the equipment to be a bird rescue

Fixing birds won't fix her problems anon, no need to feel sad about it

No. 1088687

>>1088510
What a surprise, Simp is also incapable of taking responsibility for his actions. All he had to say was, "It was inappropriate for me to talk about Holly and Jared. I wouldn't be doing that anymore." Instead he throws a tantrum and blames everyone else. No wonder he fits in with Hored.

No. 1088688

>>1088687

It's so funny because like this is the only place people talk about it. The tumblr community for it is just a blog where they whine about what we say here. If he wanted to avoid the drama all he would have to do is stop compulsively checking this thread. Or does he think throwing a tantrum in the comments of a blog dedicated to us will make us stop?

No. 1088695

>>1088687
>says Ross and an "abuser" deserve each other
>people ask why
>"No answer I give will be good enough. I'm not trying to invite harassment. You all put me in this position by asking"

Ffs dude just shut up. He constantly stirs the pot and gets upset when people respond to it. He literally doesn't want a conversation, he wants to show off his "inside knowledge" and "right opinions" for attention, but no one is allowed to question him. His control issues fit right in with Hored's.

No. 1088986

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“I don’t know how I keep running into all these tweets that mention ProJared, my Twitter defaults to the search bar.”

Suuuuuure, Gavin White. Trying to pull the Boomer excuse.

No. 1088989

>>1088986
Yeah, it probably DOES default to that, if that's the only thing he ever searches for. That right there tells you that the only thing he ever looks up on twitter is ProPedo.

No. 1089040

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>>1088986

the full version is even funnier, this was in response to the user further up the thread who called him and the other throwaway accounts out for lurking the projared tag. this dude cowers away the minute he gets the same level of aggression directed back at him and tries to desperately backpedal, just like his best friends holly and jared

No. 1089065

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People are actually donating games to him? Wow, WTF.

No. 1089071

>>1089065
I mean why not? People constantly donate to other youtubers/twitch people (who don't need things as they get plenty of money from said platform) so it's really not that surprising he still has simps.

No. 1089092

>>1089065
And that's why he keeps doing what he does - He KNOWS his fanbase is gullible or just plain dumb enough to think they're doing a kind, generous thing while he sits back and laughs at the fact he's ripping his fans of for what probably amounts to a couple hundred dollars worth of games. Hoelly Conartist and Jared Knabenbroke strike again.

No. 1089095

Goes to show you how how dense his remaining fandom is. DS and GameCube are considered Retro now and will be even more valuable years later. I understand gifting your favorite content creator something to say thank you or to review it to create more content that way both parties something out of it, but Jared is so inactive that it'll just sit on the shelf collecting dust. Either way very telling that he's more interested in e-begging for video games instead of using his platform to ask his fans to donate funds to his girlfriend's vet bills. #priorities

No. 1089096

>>1089071
It's just a gross abuse of his e-celeb status (and before the stans come for me, I'd say the same thing about anyone else in a similar financial position as Jared). If you CAN afford the games, look 'em up and buy them your damned self; Don't ask your fans to not only send them to you, but to have to also pay the cost to ship them to you.

THIS right here is why I tend to think more of his collection belonged to Heidi than the stans want to admit, if dude is hardcore begging fans for their free leftovers. Then again, looking at his choice in things like women and games, leftovers just might be what he prefers.

No. 1089097

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>>1089065
He has a (presumably) complete version of one of the most expensive DS games. I can understand a collector not wanting to part with something like that but if volume really is the goal he could get like 5 or 6 ds games selling that
sorry for deleting and reposting accidently selected the wrong snip

No. 1089101

>>1089097
That's just it - If he was truly that worried about completing his DS or GameCube collection, he could easily sell off other games he no longer wants/needs/plans on playing/etc. Instead, he's bumming them off of fans who presumably only make a fraction of the income that Jared makes. It's fucking wild that his hardcore stans see nothing wrong with that.

No. 1089105

Why is he using his platform to beg for games instead of asking his fans to donate to Holly for her vet bills?

No. 1089107

>>1089105
Because he cares more about objects that will sit unused on his shelf, and the big game collector reputation it gives him, than he does about the human or animals he lives with.

No. 1089109

>>1089105
Because (A) he doesn't really give a fuck about Hoelly or her horde of trash birds, and (B) Jared is a self-centered twat who is only concerned with his wants - but also (C) Hoelly is banked by her grandpa's disney cash. She's not as hard up as she claims to be, it's just a convenient way for her to bring up the drama for sympathy points.

No. 1089125

>>1089096

It really is. Just using his fans as usual, I shouldn’t be surprised by now.

I also believe that it’s pretty likely that Heidi owned more of the collection than what was presented.

No. 1089140

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Not only is SadOldSimp modding for ProDick these days, but he's also apparently modding (or holding a higher rank? idk) for Hoelly Conartist too. Apparently him publicly slandering her ex is paying off with Hoelly.

No. 1089149

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>>1089125
Heidi indicated that his collection was largely separate from hers.

No. 1089150

>>1089140

Scarletmoth is the "anonymous" source that told petitiondan about Ross being the real abusive one and who talked about how even though she is ace Jared talked her into sending him nudes. Kinda funny that Hoelly still has her clinging on, you'd think she would be intimidated by a more attractive woman who has sent nudes to her boy toy before

No. 1089196

>>1089065

The sad part is that he'll never review any of these…

No. 1089197

>>1088510

You reap what you sow, bitch.

No. 1089203

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>>1089197
Hored in a nutshell

No. 1089214

Jared is the same person who condemned Charlie and Chai for e-begging but when he does it for dumb shit like video games it's a ok.

No. 1089224

>>1089214
You forget, Anon, that these are the same people who accused Heidi of initially coming forward for some kind of profit, but saw nothing wrong with Hored selling those bs "cancelled" shirts less than a year later.

"Standards are for thee, not for me" -Hored, probably

No. 1089269

>>1089096
He can get fucked for his hypocrisy, but despite some being rare (maybe even holding sentimental value for the person gifting the games) it just seems incredibly the norm. Gamers love sending games to YouTubers, YouTubers in general use their fans for their own gain on the daily.

Am I annoyed he’s getting things he wants so easily? Yeah, it’s irritating.
Is it an abuse of power? Maybe, but it would mean every person who’s fanbase contributes financially or sends gifts because of parasocial relationships could be viewed the same light. If the only reason it’s wrong for him to ask for games is because he’s a disgusting, creepy abuser-I 100% fully support everyone being pissed off about it.

>>1089071
Yeah, even despite him outright asking people instead of just getting them every now and then it’s because he said “games they don’t want anymore” which makes the difference here to me. There’s no emotional breakdown before it, and it’s not disgusting or taking advantage of anyone like how he was soliciting sex/nudes.

Other anons are right for saying he should have tried to buy the games himself first because he most-likely has connections he could use along with his own finances available to do so, but putting it out there is always worth a try. The whole “Asking your neighbour for a cup of sugar” thing, if you will.

No. 1089274

>>1089269
The difference here is that he and his stans regularly attack those he disagrees with for asking for a cup of sugar while he regularly asks for a quart, y'know? Jared doesn't get to tear people apart for asking for donations and then turn around and ask for them himself, like it's somehow only okay when he does it.

No. 1089275

Now that the divorce is done, can't Heidi finally release those texts/conversations she was alluding to between Whorey and Propeen? Or is there suspicion she signed an nda? If not, finally releasing that proof would be amazing to see.

>>1088211
What a privileged fuck.

No. 1089276

>>1089275
Nope, because those texts are still protected by privacy laws. She would need the permission of a party directly involved in the texts - so either Holly or Jared, and we all know THAT is never going to happen (at least not until PedoDick leaves Hoelly and she goes FULL bunny-in-a-pot crazy). The only reason Holly could release the ones between Jared and Heidi was because she could claim jared gave her permission.

No. 1089279

File: 1606113249572.jpg (193.17 KB, 1021x835, Hi som.jpg)

lol hi sadoldmagician. This anon is too mad for it to be anyone else.

No. 1089280

Thoughts of the recent developments between sadoldmagician and heidiofans: As far as anyone knows, heidio has no connection to hored, so his posts are an "outside perspective" of what's going on. He just chose to follow hored after looking at everything made public between all three people. Sadold is getting his "evidence" straight from the mouths of hored, so he's getting the twisted version of events and only getting it from them. Sadold started making those accusing comments in heidio's notes about the same time as heidio showing that he'll defend Heidi herself from some of the extreme hate she gets. I'm wondering if sadold is realizing that heidio isn't completely brainwashed like he is, so sadold is subtly trying to leave comments to manipulate heidio into turning into a fully obedient hored stan.

No. 1089282

>>1089279
If he didn't care about popularity, he wouldn't have slapped the "ASK THE MOD OF PJ2 ANYTHING!" on there or constantly talk about the things he knows about Holly or Jared from hanging out with them in person (like when he pretty much bragged to one anon about catsitting the cat Hoelly shared with Ross)

No. 1089283

I looked into it, and if what I read is correct as long as Heidi cuts out sexual conversation it's doubtful they would have grounds to sue on privacy laws. It's already public information that they did it, so as long as she censors the spicy parts and pictures it doesn't seem there's anything they could do, since they're public figures.

No. 1089285

>>1089283
The whole "They're public figures!" thing would only apply to public conversations, not private conversations between just the two of them - celebrities (even e-celebs on YT) have some expectation of privacy. It doesn't necessarily matter if Heidi is in the clear or not, it could still drag out into a lengthy court battle, should Hoelly want to scream about invasion of privacy - and unlike Hoelly who stomps and screams and brings up the drama when shit doesn't go her way, Heidi seems to be trying to move past the drama, focus on Aries and her clothing and be done with it all. Releasing the texts now, legally or not, would just bring unnecessary attention to it all over again.

No. 1089287

>>1089285
You need money to sue, and they're both begging. There's also never been anything stopping her from transcribing and partially altering the full text as a "work of fiction".

No. 1089288

>>1089279

Who's "bad take anon"?

No. 1089290

>>1089287
They're begging because they're fucking cheap and know their fans are gullible as fuck to trip over each other to gain their adoration. Heidi has nothing to gain at this point by altering the texts - If she were going to do that, one would think she would have done it months and months ago, not wait until she's regained some semblance of a career just to throw herself head first back into the shitshow (though I know that's what the hored stans would claim she did - alter it and lie)

No. 1089300

>>1089288
An anon earlier mentioned something sadoldmagician being the least popular of the three blogs covering the drama.

No. 1089360

>>1088211
Holy shit, they really are just props and he almost got away with stealing the only valuable games in his collection from Heidi.

All the games here that stand out to me aside from well known Nintendo or Capcom ones were definitely no more than $10.
I've seen that Bratz gamecube shovelware game for literally $2 at pawn shops in recent years.

I'm unfamiliar with his youtube but I have trouble believing a grown man with a not satirical gaming channel would unironically play "Bratz Diamondz" and put it on display, kek.

Another spergy nitpick of mine is that quite a few of those GameCube games are PAL region only like Darkened Skye, which isn't a bad thing sometimes Europe exclusives are technically rarer but it means there's no way he was able to play them without importing a GameCube from Australia or Europe because it's a regionlocked console.

Darkened Sky is basically only rarer by default due to it's limited release but it's on ebay right now for 35$ so not actually rare or anything worth flexing about.

I don't know if I got good deals or not but I've seen the furry DS game with the chunky box Sola to Robo for 10$ or less second hand at EB games many times, not that exciting just thought it's kind of weird that he probably hasn't played more than 5 minutes of it so he has no clue so mentioning this is a reach but iirc it has lots of uncomfortable loli furry harem scenes with sexual harassment.

People always bitch about "fake gamer gurlsss" but I dunno, man. fake gamer guys seem more common or just as common.

No. 1089400

>>1089274

Yep. Remember when he seemed so concerned in his coming back video that he had “unwittingly” used his e-fame to solicit nudes from his fans? This is kind of the same, except instead of sexual gratification he’s using his fans to enhance his video game collection. It’d be slightly different if maybe instead of just straight out begging he did something to where if you sent him a game he’d play it on stream or something like that. Yes, there are YT’s/streamers who regularly get items from fans, but from what I’ve seen it’s more like they set up a PO Box and are just like, “Hey, if you want to send me something, cool, here’s the address.” Not begging outright for specific items just to increase a game collection. If PedoDick’s schtick is that he’s a retro gamer, then he’d better be ready with that cash/capital beforehand.

No. 1089421

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Sage because off current topic but I found this post on /r/DiceCameraAction that's hilarious in retrospect

They are discussing the idea of Heidi guesting on the show to play Diath's abusive ex lover

No. 1089434

>>1089275
Technically but it'd be seen as retaliation despite no one batted an eye at jared having his nudes etc leaked which he's equally allowed to have had protected too.

No. 1089436

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"You're right, anon, she IS batshit crazy and evil!"

He went from saying that he believes Heidi and her friend are some of the main anons in this thread and saying that he regularly tells Holly to stay off here to being addicted himself lmao. He obviously compulsively checks this page as well as has notifications set for HOF since he replies to their posts the minute they go live. Dude is unhealthy obsessed with simping

No. 1089441

>>1089360
>Holy shit, they really are just props
Hate to show the "little man behind the curtain" but 99% of gamer youtubers/twitch streamers use their collections as props as they are literally just that: a collection, they're not to be played. This is why with AVGN even though he use prop versions for certain stuff he actually breaks out his collection FOR use for his video. He's one of the few of that does and it's not just sitting making the room look full.

>People always bitch about "fake gamer gurlsss" but I dunno, man. fake gamer guys seem more common or just as common.


It's because fake gamer gurls are in your face, plastered everywhere making money pretending to be gamers while obviously only there to jiggle their tits and shill their OF/Patreon more so than actually playing the game properly. "Fake gamer boiz" aren't really a thing in the same context.

No. 1089442

>>1089436

surely they should’ve said “most of the internet is on jared/holly’s side” not “our side”, they accuse gossip forums and random twitter users of being obsessed, but they themselves believe they’re intricate parts of holly and jared’s lives or that they’re “friends”, it’s so embarrassing

No. 1089445

>>1089442

Maybe I'm just a crazy tinfoil but so many of his asks read like farmers sent them in. The way they are worded, the subtle prodding, etc. "How batshit crazy and Evil Heidi is" reads like someone trying to manipulate him into calling her that. Maybe I'm just paranoid

No. 1089455

>>1089445
Farmers and tippers are always so blatant.

No. 1089456

>>1089436
Good, I hope he and that one Heidi sperg anon (assuming it isn't just him) fuck off and don't come back. The ask is right, they have the majority of the internet to screech about this shit to an echo chamber of other incels who will agree with them. They can freely ignore the one or two places that aren't to their liking, but choose not to.

No. 1089458

>>1089436

Considering how obsessed he is with this thread, HOF thread, etc, sounds like SadOldSimp could stand to take some of his own advice.

“Most of the internet is on our side.” LOL. Maybe he needs to take a swim through Twitter like Gavin White and his alts do, he may want to reconsider that statement.

No. 1089513

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>>1089456

the passion of their defense is laughable when you take a step back

"the two people with a problematic history spanning a decade are possibly problematic yet again? No, it's the ex-spouses who haven't had a single instance of drama who are wrong!"

No. 1089514

>>1089436

Hahaha the cope is incredible. This has to be someone trolling him. I can't believe this ask is real and his group is this cringeworthy

No. 1089587

>>1089436
>calling someone batshit crazy and evil
>signing off with concern about OPs mental health

So…uh you're "batshit crazy" if they don't like you but uwu mental health if they do. It doesn't work that way, empathy and sympathy for mental health is not a case by case basis.

Or…they are just calling Hedi crazy because that is their excuse for treating her like shit, when anyone who read her Tweets or saw her streams could tell how kind and sane she is? Yeah, it's the second one. Her only mistake was being too lenient with his pedo "body posi" nude accounts and "open" relationship garbage when he's just a sex pest.

No. 1089597

>>1089441
Yeah but a collection that includes a fucking Bratz game and games that are region-locked for different countries makes is glaringly obvious they are just decorations, rather than games that even hold personal value or significance.

At this point he could just buy empty cases and print the covers off since they're only for looks.

No. 1089604

>>1089269
>Is it an abuse of power?

From the man who started a nude blog so he could collect images of underage fans and fuck them: I don't think this is even a question

No. 1089610

>>1089442
Maybe it's from seeing how obvious cows are when they selfpost, but this reads to me like it was written by Jared/Holly/A friend of theirs trying poorly to disguise the connection.

No. 1089612

>>1089587

Yeppp. People like Gavin White have also been pushing the narrative of Heidi being some crazed, unhinged person, so I’m not surprised that others have been choosing to do the same. It’s gross the lengths they go to in order to defend a sex pest.

>>1089604

Right? It’s absolutely an abuse of power or whatever he has, efame or influence I suppose. The answer is yes.

No. 1089613

>>1089604
I will say in Jared's defense that I don't think he point blank ran the nudes blog to get nudes of underage fans as tumblr DOES have a lot of 21+ users - but I DO think it's something he should have seen coming. I do, however, agree that he likely ran it for fap material and to find someone dumb enough to let him fuck-and-run at cons.

No. 1089617

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>>1089610
SOM: Move on from the drama! IT WAS A YEAR AGO!
Also SOM: -see screenshot-

Is it possible to get a notification when a blog you follow on tumblr posts anything? This dude is up HOF's ass within MINUTES of them making a post

No. 1089624

>>1089612
Heidi is emotionally unstable tho, and WKing is against the rules.

No. 1089632

>>1089587
Sane and obviously honest about how she approached poly. Jared continues to prove he’s a sex pest like he was accused of being and Heidi the whore has yet to pick back up with her LDR or go dick hopping. She obviously actually gave a shit about the marriage lasting. But no, she’s just a crazy abuser that can’t get over her ex escaping her clutches.

No. 1089633

>>1089624

Everyone is emotionally unstable at different points at their lives anon. I didn’t know that claiming that someone is probably not hysterical or batshit crazy is now considered WKing. eyeroll SOM and Gavin White and whoever else trying to push that narrative ought to be careful, that’s stepping into slander/libel lawsuit territory.

No. 1089637

>>1089624
You realize that Holly is the one who is so unstable that she checked herself into a mental hospital and spent the better part of the next year repeatedly talking about her self harm tendencies and negative thoughts? Does that SCREAM stability to you? Hell, when her bird got sick, she claimed that it was "what people threatened to do - kill my birds", rather than recognizing that arthritis isn't all that uncommon in birds.

No. 1089638

>>1089617

Yeah you can set notifications on the tumblr app for when certain accounts post. SadOldSimp absolutely has them set for HOF.

He said he recently got a job working from home, I wonder how much of his work time is spent monitoring the drama

No. 1089645

>>1089637
But Heidi yelled at Holly on the phone! Being angry once means you're batshit crazy but being mentally ill every day of your life means you're uhm…

No. 1089649

>>1089645
It means your name is Hoelly Cumrag, an absolute angel face who has never done anything wrong in the history of ever - just ask her.

No. 1089659

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>>1089613
He was on Nickelodeon so he knows he has an underage audience. That and when people wouldn't send him nudes he would try to pressure them.

No. 1089663

>>1089617
Yes when you follow a tumblr you can choose to turn on all notifications so the second someone posts you get notified.

No. 1089665

>>1089436
I thought he said he doesn't come here, got caught in another lie.

No. 1089666

>>1089649

Noooo, Holly has made mistakes but she has acknowledged and apologized for them all, it's all part of her redemption arc. She is capable of change and being a better person, it's just Heidi that isn't, remember? Holly = fixable, Heidi = unfixable

No. 1089675

>>1089637

don’t forget her using a man’s suicide to rant about her own experience of getting spammed with clown emojis, or when her fellow dca member’s ex husband passed away and instead of paying respects, started manically replying to people criticising her and liking tweets about how “just being alive is enough uwu”

but heidi is super unstable and scary for yelling at holly once while telling her to stop trying to fuck her husband

No. 1089774

>>1089659

Gross, he sure is something else. You’d think that the Nickelodeon thing would have made him think twice about sending stuff like this to people, but I guess not.

No. 1089880

>>1089774

Lmao pedophilia is pretty on-brand for Nickelodeon

No. 1089938

>>1089624

I think the original point is that Holly & her stans are all about "Mental health advocacy uwu" until it concerns someone they don't like, then they're just dismissed as "batshit crazy", "dangerous", etc.

No. 1089944

>>1089938
Ah, the infamous "#Be Kind" fiasco circa 2019. I still think she should have just cut out the drama and went with "#BeKindToMe"

No. 1090127

>>1089944
Now now.
#BeKindToMeAndMyFriends

Remember when Adam Koebel turned out to be a gross creeper too and she tried to gaslight the victims and downplay the shit he pulled because cancelbaduwu and "it wasn't that bad I was aboosed for real"?

No. 1090132

File: 1606199781810.jpg (314.04 KB, 1028x1564, Stil.jpg)

Take your own advice SOM

No. 1090169

>>1090132
The lack of self awareness from the dude who attacked Heidi (then apologized to Jared, not Heidi, for it) is astounding,

No. 1090261

>>1090132

SOM just needs to come to terms that what Pedodick did was wrong, and he’s going to be feeling the consequences of that for a long ass time. Be annoyed at the people who directly @ him about this stuff sure, that’s harassment, but then also be annoyed at the people like Gavin White and his army of ults who harass people who even dare to say anything negative about Jared, even if it is the truth. (Which they conveniently choose to ignore.) Anytime a somewhat famous internet personality does something similar, just know that that shit is going to rise up again, and deal with it. Recently there was a voice actor who was also using their status to get sexual with fans, so of course people are recalling and talking about what Jared did. These are the consequences of making friends with a gross sex pest whose actions show that he really doesn’t seem to regret what he did.

No. 1090340

>>1090132
But wasn't he the one who said he made a whoopsie in Jared's books by doing this exact thing to his ex wife? Interesting to know he includes himself under "unrepentant assholes"

No. 1090503

>>1090132

"Hate someone's guts, sure, but why is it important to let everyone else know?" UHMMMMMMMMMMMMM COMING FROM HIM? More like why is it important to have a tumblr AMA blog dedicated to the mod of a discord/subreddit dedicated to a Z-lister sex addict lmao. He has to realise his asks are just trolls/farmers eventually, he can't be this oblivious

No. 1090871

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Is he just living in an alternate timeline where there isn't almost 1 and a half years of him bitching and whining about Heidi?

No. 1090903

>>1090871

He’s such a fucking hypocrite. He’s the one who straight out attacked Heidi and now he’s saying this shit? Please. He really is living in an alternate reality, likely the same one that Holly and Jared are living in.

No. 1090938

>>1090871
These are starting to REALLY sound like y'all are cowtipping. SOM/Hoelly/Jared are all fucking idiots who will sperg at will, you don't gotta go poke 'em to get a reaction.

No. 1090961

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we're not the only ones who noticed the two faced shit of SOM these days.

No. 1091037

>>1090871
>>1090961

Hmm, Sadold was making a LOT of bating and derogatory comments about Heidi/Ross in HeidioFan's notes, but once people started asking him questions on his own blog, he's suddenly stopped replying to OFans and acting like he has this moral high ground to the anons asking him. Tinfoil theory but I think Sadold was mad that OFans was getting more attention than he did, so he started making bait comments at OFans knowing that we watch OFan's comments too. Like dude, OFans is on YOUR SIDE, why use him like that for attention to your blog? Are Hored not giving you enough validation?

No. 1091045

Tinfoiling here but I’m willing to bet if Heidi was the one with the biggest audience vs. Hored SOM would be on her side. It’s getting more and more obvious as time goes on that he really only cares about what little claim to fame he can get, that’s why he put “ask the mod of r/projared2” in his blog description, that’s why he brags about being close with them every chance he gets, that’s why he loves to talk about talking to them and reassuring them all the time (aka “look at me and all the things I’m doing for them!1!”). He’s a clout chaser, and a pathetic one at that, and he just happened to find someone to latch onto who is even slimier than him.

No. 1091054

>>1091045
Nah, they'd still hate Heidi for daring to be a woman that spoke up rather than letting her weird incel gamer bro ex be the hero he dreams himself to be.

No. 1091128

File: 1606285725294.png (10.93 KB, 268x184, Screenshot_74.png)

TWC/HollyComrade pointed out how hypocritical SadOld is, got this shit in return where he continues to not see the irony.

No. 1091132

>>1091128
this geniunely sounds like it was ghost written by Holly

No. 1091153

File: 1606290936427.jpeg (908.99 KB, 1172x1731, A4D929A8-6C83-4784-9BAA-482538…)

Imagine thinking other people should be more responsible for Hoelly cumrag’s mental health than she is.

No. 1091169

>>1091153

Dont yall understand that you aren't allowed to critique people (unless they're Heidi)?!?!?!

Am I supposed to believe SOM didnt send this anon? Because I dont lmao, has his writing style all over it, as do alot of the submissions on HOF. Like it or not SOM you're the biggest dramatube fan here

No. 1091171

>>1091169
I'm convinced that all the asks HOF gets are from SOM and like one other person. And that ask above was clearly SOM.

No. 1091177

>>1091171

HOF has at least two other named followers besides SOM. I'm sure they're somewhere in the list of people asking him questions. There's also the occasional obvious troll asks, but even SOM isn't good enough to get trolled.

Speaking of, at least HOF went on record saying that Jared's nude blog was a stupid idea. SOM won't even say that much. I think that's why HOF gets more people paying attention to his blog, he's the more sensible of the Hored stans.

No. 1091231

>>1091153
just wanted to take a moment to mention that i've never been this involved with my closest, personal friends' relationships as SOM is with theirs and its super fucking weird

No. 1091271

>>1091231

It actually makes me sad for Holly and Jared if they think their parasocial relationship with this creep is friendship. I remember Geraldo saying how she had cheated on her last boyfriend with SOM, and that's why they were so invested in defending Holly and Jared because they understood that "things happen".

No. 1091277

>>1091271
Really? That's why they're so invested? Because they're literally self inserting themselves into internet drama?

If only it was just the cheating people would be way over this by now…but the predatory behavior, manipulation of fans, baiting low self esteemed girls with "body positivity" blogs so he could hand pick his harem, those parts were the actually milky parts.

Don't get me wrong cheating still sucks, but it's not the scarlet letter they think it is.

No. 1091295

>>1091271
>Geraldo saying how she had cheated on her last boyfriend with SOM, and that's why they were so invested in defending Holly and Jared because they understood that "things happen".
Well that explains a lot, in that case they're both even huger pieces of shit than expected

No. 1091299

>>1091271
So is this indirect confirmation that Holly and Jared cheated? From the sad old mouths of their creepy friends

No. 1091340

>>1091177
For the record: HOF got an anon ask a little while ago and said they're she/her and female. Grain of salt and all that, but having read that I get real confused when people refer to them as "he"

No. 1091348

>>1091177
HOF also pulled a lot of mental gymnastics saying that Jared's fanbase isn't underage and got real mad when people pointed out that he was on that kid's show for a reason. So while their slightly more reasonable that the average Hored stan they're still have some pretty bad takes.

No. 1091353

>>1091348
I think the issue some are having with this argument is you can't 100% correlate that no matter if you like or hate jared. Markiplier's loudest fans are female (underaged ones at that) but no one goes around saying he ONLY has underaged female fans because that would be dumb, so using that logic you'd say Mark only has under 18 female fans and him selling his "tasteful nude calendar" is peddling to underaged girls which should get him in a shit ton of trouble. "But markiplier is wholesome and not blah blah blah", doesn't change laws my friend.

So at the end of the day we should really drop what his fan base is/isn't because that's literally the weakest argument that can be applied to SO many youtubers/twitchers/tiktokers etc that do risque shit on the daily.

>>1091277
>Really? That's why they're so invested? Because they're literally self inserting themselves into internet drama?

Most definitely.

No. 1091360

>>1091353

While I can see the first point you made, (also not the anon you replied to), and I am also definitely not the target demographic either for a nude calendar or markiplier, I feel like the difference between those two creators is the insidious intent. Mark is not making videos for an underage audience, and he is within his rights to make a tastefully nude calendar for sale in his shop, but he's very clear about it: it's nudity, and it's for sale officially and not through a donation or some shady means.

Whereas I really don't like when creators are open and encouraging to ask or even accept nudes from their fans. Mark is willingly printing and selling the nudes in a way he is consenting to and there is a legal "on the table" monetary gain for him. The tumblr/snapchat nudes were consented to, sure, but there was no officiality to it, there was no receipt, no "proof", there was nothing to make this feel legitimate and safe. There is also no way to verify age short of the fans sending pics of their IDs or official documentation. While there isn't for the calendar either, you can at least have a paper trail of the transaction.

There is also Jared's direct transaction: compliments and flirting. Compliments and flirting when he liked how you look, a generic feel-good word when you were just "okay". That goes beyond an email confirmation saying "thank you for your purchase!" Mark is not right there looking at every person who bought his calendar and judging them on their appearance. If you were lucky enough you may even get banged, like unogirl. And even if you take screenshots, "oh they can be faked!" You can't even delete or hide your blog anymore because you'll be accused of lying. Which doesn't prove anything, because the blog not being there doesn't mean there wasn't evidence in the first place. It's like saying "well there's no body here, so there clearly wasn't a murder"

It's miles apart in how these situations are handled.

No. 1091362

>>1091360
I agree, that's why I say you can't 100% correlate things just based off one factor alone since on the surface level, the two are similar if we're bringing up "they have underaged fans!" I'm 100% not for any of that kind of interaction at all, as for the record I understand and support what mark did (as I'm also a fan of his) so I know he's not in the wrong in any way, it's just when that "his fan base" argument get brought up regarding to jared..there's so much more there to be argued (as you even described.)

No. 1091376

>>1091353
The point is that enough of his fanbase was young enough to get him noticed by a multi million dollar kids network. So while it's not all of them he knew there was still a risk that he might engage sexually with someone underage and still went for it anyway.

No. 1091385

>>1091360
are you smoking crack?
you can’t compare a grown man selling lewd photos of himself above the table to a man soliciting nudes from fans off of a tumblr blog. the power dynamic is completely different in those scenarios: one is providing a product while the other expects others to be the product. I don’t even like markiplier (or any gaming YouTuber for that matter) but he didn’t publish the calendar with the expectation that his fans would reciprocate with their own nudes like Jared did with his blogs.

No. 1091408

>>1091295

Oh wow, they sure are. And who would choose to cheat on their SO with a basement dweller like SOM? Yikes.

>>1091348

Yeah, I do have a little more respect for HOF than the average Hored because they do admit that Hoelly and Pedodick did some things wrong.

>>1091153

We all know that this is SOM sending an ask to HOF, it’s pretty easy to tell. If he really wants to be a good friend to Hoelly, then he needs to encourage her not to seek out this shit. Not attempt to censor people what they say on their own blog, or insert himself into drama only to create more drama.

No. 1091423

>>1091340

Oh, shit, I always thought HOF was a dude. I guess I saw them being referred to as "he/him" and thought we figured out their gender was male somehow.

No. 1091498

>>1091385

you quoted the wrong reply anon, I am the post saying that you can't compare them because they are obviously different. Next time look closer at who you're quoting

I literally said everything you just mentioned lol

No. 1091514

>>1091271

When did she say that? That's fucking hilarious

No. 1091538

>>1091271
Oh god I do vaguely remember them saying that I just can't recall when.

No. 1091551

>>1091353
This is different. One is someone selling their lewds transparently and the other was soliciting nudes under the guise of “body posi” and then reciprocating. Come back when markiplier starts soliciting the people that purchased his calendar for their nudes.

And I’ll just say, markiplier is a fucking dumbass for doing a lewd calendar wtf is he thinking? Just reminds me of the women who have a platform and decide they’d get more money by starting an onlyfans. He’s fortunate enough to be a guy, he doesn’t have to sell his body!

No. 1091567

>>1091514
Looks like the ask was Nov 1st, sorry I don't have the spoons to figure out a way to get a clean screenshot right now

No. 1091593

>>1091551

Yeah, and don’t forget that PJ was not only expecting nudes as reciprocation, he was also pressuring people for nudes by sending them his own risqué pics first. Ugh. >>1089659

If someone wants to sell their nudes or risqué pics that’s one thing, but it’s a whole different and predatory thing when you’re sending risqué pics in hopes of getting nudes in return.

No. 1091601

>>1091353
Here's the difference: Markiplier wasn't using his fanbase to solicit nudes, nor did he meet up with various fans (at least one) at a con for a quick fuck.

No. 1091602

>>1091408
Actually, nitpick, but that ask was sent to TrashWitchCoven/HollyComrade. HOF will admit hoelly/jared did wrong, but they will still lick their taint given the chance.

No. 1091710

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We're all onto you, SOM.

No. 1091780

>>1091602

Thanks for the clarification, anon. I should have known that HOF wouldn’t have been so scathingly truthful about SOM, lmao.

>>1091710

Yep, definitely sounds like SOM. His crusade to wipe the internet clean of any negativity towards Hored just isn’t going to work.



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