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Suzy has posted so much shit since September 2018 so It’s hard to gather info
>Suzy is no longer going to be posting on vids on her KittyKatGaming account, apparently having been told by a Youtube Rep to “stop uploading” (based). Is planning on making a twitch account.>She’s been making a lot more merch, like tees, pins and hats>Game Grumps release new merch collection titled “Game Gyaru” which has Arin and Danny reimagined as 80’s animu girls
From the previous thread:>Suzy has lost weight and refuses to get surgery for her thyroid problems, anons are speculating that it’s lipo>Stampy keeps insulting Suzy on twitter, calling her fat>Barry left GG>Good Game is released, it’s shit.>some artist drew DD genderbend fanart and got sent death threats over it>Daddy Dating Simulator gets released, people have mixed Suzy is voicing Val in it>Game Grumps started a podcast>Suzy and Arin buy a new, mutated munchkin kitten, name him Otto after some youtuber’s recently deceased cat
Last thread >>>/snow/338648
The Let's Player formerly known as Egoraptor:https://www.youtube.com/user/egoraptorhttps://twitter.com/egoraptorhttps://www.instagram.com/egoraptor/
The Reality Show Cosplayer:https://twitter.com/HollyConradhttps://www.instagram.com/commanderholly/https://www.youtube.com/user/CommanderHollyhttp://www.twitch.tv/commanderholly
her husband, Ross O'Donovanhttps://www.reddit.com/user/RubberNinjahttps://twitter.com/RubberNinja
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Old udder, fresh milk? I was reading the old threads and found Arin's DeviantART again, specifically that portrait he drew of "Katie".
Well, apparently she found it a day before me and now she's replied to some curious fan (or farmer). It's definitely her, is this old news, or did Katie just spill some milk?https://www.deviantart.com/egoraptor/art/She-s-so-beautiful-7809240
I would have posted in the last thread if it wasn't full, anon.>>785481
I didn't include it because I don't follow GG news, just wanted to post that image in case it was important
There's no harm in having a thread in case drama comes up though, it can sink to the bottom of snow, but it will be here if anything comes up in future.
did you even read what I'd written? >I was reading the old threads
I found something I thought could be potentially new news, so I went to post it in the most recent gg thread, and guess what? It was full. I made a thread to post something that I found of a subject that has filled, what? Like 3 full threads? Didn't seem like much harm to me in case something new came up.
New news? Theiy're making merch and Suzy lost weight, that's such milky news anon, thank you for giving it to us. /s>>785499
I honestly feel bad for his girlfriend because of the way some of the GG fans can be–there's tons of 'fan accounts' on instagram posting pictures of her and Dan talking about how good looking she is and how much of 'goals' they are. I understand why he kept it private for so long.
That is the dumbest reason for a divorce I've ever heard.
What's all this about Suzy being asked by a YT staff member not to upload?
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nta but it's pretty logical to make a new thread for info you think is new if you can't post in a full thread>>785680
yeah I saw something about that on twitter, it was back at the start of the year. I was going to post it but I assumed someone had already lol
My sub feed has always worked perfectly fine and the comments of the vid she made on this issue were full of people saying stuff like "oh no it's working for me but i'm so sorry it's happening to other people!!"
Her gaming channel was never popular and seeing her blame it on youtube is equal parts sad and hilarious
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From what I read on Arin's kiwi thread, Holly didn't like being called a 'Grump' and being associated with the channel because GameGrump fanboys would draw disgusting nsfw fanart of her and suzy. I wont link any because fuckthatshit but, there is a whole subreddit dedicated to gamegrump rule 34 where they sexualize their girlfriends and wives and them. It's fucking gross. Most of the top post on there are related to Holly. While I don't know much about her tbh, from what I have seen she doesn't purposely ever sexualize herself in pictures or videos etc and yet the top post on there is someone who capped a pic of her butt when she had to bend down on a stream or comparing her to so some naked chick or the many lesbian porn drawings of her and suzy.
So, I completely understand her wanting to cut all ties with a divorce. While obviously GameGrumps can't stop their manchild fanbase from making rule 34 of them, I'm shocked that Arin apparently endorsed it(I don't have proof of this but, that's what a kiwi post said)and that Suzy once was also was ok with it but, then later changed her mind because she probably got mad seeing most of them only drew porn of her when it involved Holly and got jelly they prefer Holly over her or some shit. Either way, just shows how messed up their community is.
Danny is going to regret wanting to bring his gf into the community if he cares about her because they're already discussing if it's "allowed to post dan's gf on here??". for those who are curious just go on r/polygrumps and try not to vomit.
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Here is a tweet of Suzy supporting polygrumps back in 2014.
She talks about it around 1:30. I think it's more likely that she kept whining to them about not getting enough views on her shitty vids so they eventually just told her "hey, if you really think it's your channel you can just make a new one" and she made it sound like they told her to stop posting.
Her videos never got any views because she has 0 personality and is so dumb watching her play is physically painful. Not to mention her makeup channel failed too. But I guess it's easier to believe someone is erasing her subs and views than to accept that this isn't the job for her.
Holly gets depressed a lot, and so needed a location that helps with said depression.
Ross moved to LA from Perth to become an animator, and so for the time being is locked in to LA.
To me that really seems like a weaksauce reason to break up a marriage over, and not even close to the entire story. Thing is though they both seem lovely so there's no way I'd ever pry.
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>>785909>there is a whole subreddit dedicated to gamegrump rule 34 where they sexualize their girlfriends and wives and them>the top post on there is someone who capped a pic of her butt when she had to bend down on a stream or comparing her to so some naked chick or the many lesbian porn drawings of her and suzy.>"allowed to post dan's gf on here??"
Christ…..good for her for getting away from that shit, whether that was the reason for the divorce or not. I hope she gets some good therapy and doesn't just become a damaged bird lady shut in. I can totally see Ross (or any of the guys) being shitty gaslighting assholes about something like that though>ugh what do you want me to do? just have them NOT draw porn of you?>this is my JOB!! you think we could afford this house if I didn't work so hard?? and you want me to be ungrateful and tell them to stop drawing fanart???>it's a compliment!! you're totally overreacting
>>785909>Arin apparently endorsed it
Basically he said he didn't mind porn of himself existing, even shipping him with his friends but he obviously can't speak for the others>>789137
Well Jon turned out to be a gigantic white supremacist piece of shit so I won't shed a tear for him, and I wouldn't be surprised if his sudden departure had to do with that
>>789193>He became a white supremacist
So, he's confirmed a white supremacist?
I kept hearing that when it was going on but everyone else made it seem like a joke. I never knew who to believe, but Jon seems shaken from the entire thing.
Oh yikes, the uproar makes sense now
That’s really weird coming from Jon since he’s mixed lmao. No wonder he was constantly getting into fights with his friends.
Yeah he even wore an ss uniform as a “joke”>>789902
Didn’t he respond to that by saying that all that mattered was his skin tone?
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Sheesh….no kidding. I thought Jon was such a nobody at this point that I figured "Gee, no one is stupid enough to be OPENLY racist in this day and age, especially not a public figure. The only people that pay any attention to him anyways are his diehard fans/the GG community, and even then they probably had to piece it together from odd comments here and there or who he was following on twitter or something. That's why I missed it, obviously." but yikes it's literally in his Wiki bio at the top of the page:>In early 2017, Jafari faced backlash from media outlets and fans after making public comments on race and immigration. Jafari's comments were characterized by news commentators as aligning with far-right or alt-right politics. Shortly after the backlash to these statements, he stepped down as an active member of NormalBoots.
I thought I'd have to find some random vendetta tumblr with screenshots piecing it all together and EXPOSING him but nvm he really is that stupid. Holy shit.
I agree, I remember on a GG episode or two he would refer to his father as “foreign” which was kinda strange imo. There were also screenshots floating around on an old account suspected to be his, that Jon used to get yelled at by his parent/s. Not sure how credible those were tho.
Maybe he was actually cut from GG because of his strange attitude towards things like that, but Jon probably wanted to leave and go on his own anyway. Arin is suspect too, but who knows.
Oh shit, I forgot about that
Jon really is insane
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This thread made me look at Suzy's insta for the first time in years, not gonna lie the caption on this one made me kek. Their fans really are insane. I wouldn't blame Holly at all for wanting to get away from that, and Snooz must be overjoyed that she gets to be the the only ~gAmEr gUrL~ now
He's not a white supremacist.
He's not even white.
There's plenty of POC in his videos that he's 110% chill.
He's used some of their talking points in a debate with Destiny tho, so I guess he's branded forever.
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Fuck I shouldn't have checked because her fucking reselling Chinese jewelry shit fucking enrages me.
>each made by me
no. you did not fucking make this you lazy sack of shit. At fucking most you drew a basic ass scorpion and commissioned it for a real jewelry designer to make. I fucking hate how she claims she makes all her shit because none of her fans know what it even means to make and design something from scratch. Just fucking stop deluding yourself.
Btw, there is a video where she basically confirms she has someone make her shitty jewelry, she just sends a badly drawn concept to an actual designer(probably with Arin's GameGrump money)and has them do all the work and she just resells it to her stupid followers who think she's actually talented at something.
Ross and Holly were such a sweet couple. very sad to hear about the divorce. the fanbase is toxic
and vile, filled with socially awkward neckbeards. I'd be pissed too if they were drawing porn of me (if i were holly) cuz she already has social anxiety and is self conscious about how she looks. she also respects herself, unlike Suzy. Hope everything gets better for Holly.
Things were going pretty great for her after her move, but then her car was stolen from her own backyard. They never found it.
But it's been a month since then and she's doing good again. She on new medicine I believe. I really hope her and Ross do well separately.
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This fandom really is the worst.
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They really need to be more firm with their fans, and I feel like sometimes Suzy encourages the behavior.
Maybe they don't want to upset the people that give them money, but it bites them in the butt when their psycho fans show up at their house.
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Out of curiosity I did go look, and honestly what the fuck.
Re: Stamper, its not just Twitter. I remember in one of Suzy's Q&A vids she mentioned being offended after one of the guests on Table Flip insinuated she was fat. I'm 99% sure she was referring to Stamps. The convo according to her went a bit like this:
Guest: "Nice costume"
Suze, jokingly: "We could switch"
Guest: "Yeah, and I bet I could fit in it too."
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>if I hadn't turned Arin down he and Suzy wouldn't be together and Game Grumps definitely wouldn't exist
Calm down, sis.
>>792770>He knows he's always welcome back in my life with open arms
Seems sketchy. I wouldn't be surprised if that the email between Arin and her that Suzy found was dripping with desperation, hence Suzy's "back off" message.
Suzy and Arin are toxic
, but at this point they've been married longer than this Katie chick was ever friends with Arin.
Are there a bunch of newfags in the snooze thread now that havent read the heaps of old receipts backing up Arins neckbeard love life of chasing after his female friends & snoozes whole regina george gf attitude or is Snooze herself bored posting on LC to kick up some relevancy after "youtube" fucked with her "algorithm".
(Why even start up a new thread on her and the group when its reduced to nostalgiafags)
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Apparently Arin and Suzy have been plotting for Jacksepticeye and Girlgamergab(?) to get together while Jacksepticeye was still with his ex? I might be wrong.
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Welp. Arin and Dan body pillows. This is what it's come to. (also in the Game Gyaru version, of course)
Yeah we're here to shit on Suzy and co., but this is just stupid. It's clearly a joke. Yeah some weirdo will probably hump them but it's still a harmless silly joke.>>792935
Sage goes on the email field, it's not enough to just say "sage for w/e"
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>>792973>Both Dan and Arin ones are sold out now.
goddammit….I want to believe they made 1 each and just one deranged fan bought both. I cannot believe people would actually buy this shit
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This one caught my eye
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Wow, Suz confirmed for right. KT was a bad friend after all. You don't publicly shit on your friends like that KT.
It's this one that really stood out to me though. Knew Arin was older. Didn't know he was that much older.
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Lmfao I can only hope to strive to this level of passive aggressiveness
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I don't think she's aware that she's actually doing Snooze a favor by acting even crazier in comparison.
this katie bitch is crazy
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There's zero chance she doesn't. Arin clearly has a thing for bananas.
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>I can't judge their relationship
Arin sure can pick 'em
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Watch out, Dan.
Or maybe you could be their waitress if they're ever in Chicago. Anything is possible!
Why hasn't she got friends that will tell her she's being pathetic, and why isn't she listening to them?
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I think you're right.
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If she held on to junk like this all this time and is parading it around now, I'm 99% there's like a shrine to Arin somewhere in her house.
A good move, imo. A block would still be an interaction, meaning prince arin and witch Suzy saw her tweets and were triggered
by her truth bombs
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Seems like she was doing exactly that even before they were married.
I guess she's already divorced, if she married that boyfriend like she said, but now refers to him as her ex.
If what she says is true about her husband physically abusing her, that is disgusting and not okay under any circumstance, but it's disgusting to blame arin for that. he's a lazy piece of shit but she needs to take some accountability and not blame arin for her abusive
husbands actions. thats unbelievably manipulative.
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i can't believe i'm defending suzy but i can understand why she felt so threatened by katie
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>>794320>huge inspiration behind Egoraptor's character Melissa
She proudly brags about that 15 years later, knowing Arin uploaded "Melissa" nudes on his deviantart.
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Wow. This girl is actually worse
than Suzy, by a lot. It's been like 15 years, get some fucking therapy.
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What's with her enormous fucking sense of entitlement? Why does she keep acting as if Arin or Suzy owe her anything? She comes across as so obnoxious, smug, and condescending. The lack of self-awareness is mind-boggling.
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What even is this answer and why is it so needlessly creepy? Does she mean "sweet tooth" but was too dumb to remember, so to be safe she just included every tooth in his gaping maw?
Didn't she recently drag Suzy for attaching herself to the "Ego brand"? And now she's doing the exact same thing by bragging she inspired Melissa, an OC that Arin doesn't give 2 shits about anymore and is at least a decade old?
This may be old milk, but no one loves chugging it more than KT here.
aww cute, you like sweets! teehee uwu>"sweet teeth"
I have never been more appalled in my life. Are you a serial killer? I'm calling the police. Don't ever speak to me again.
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>"Again I understand she has a lot of mental illness, so I can't be upset. But I can ask that you please get some help, y'know? 'Cause clearly you do need some. And getting help isn't admitting defeat, it's saying,' I have an issue that I need to get better' and that's a wonderful thing. Growth is a wonderful thing. Anyway, if it was anybody else, this situation would not be as disturbing. Being copied is one thing, but being copied by the one person who manipulated and lied to and convinced my best friend who was in love with me at the time that I didnt care about them so you could be with them romantically, also while emulating my persona and copying my interests in order to get their attention or whatever, this is what's extremely disturbing to me. Not being copied, but the extent of the nuanced situation behind this specific person copying me."
KT implying that she apparently has the market cornered on being a fake snowflake goth, and saying Suzy needs to get professional help. Top kek.
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Holy shit. She vaguetweets so much. Is she insane?
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Oh god. More. Oh god.
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Isn't she just being passive aggressive or sarcastic? This sounds like she's saying suzy needs her because she's so negative?
This woman is fucking batshit. I mean, we're mostly women here, I'll avoid a blog post, but a lot of women deal with a male friend falling in love with them and it being unrequited. Aren't most women really happy someone they're not attracted to has moved on? It looks like she wasn't attracted to Arin, but loved his money and obsession with her. It would suck if your friend stops talking to you, but it's like watching a kid grow up. Move on.
Man, never thought Suzy's jealous behavior would have saved him from a pyscho. Weird how things work out.
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Sorry for the dump. Currently on mobile and can’t put screenshots all together.
He was a boy
She was a girl
Can I make it any more obvious?
He was a weeb
She was insane
What more can I say?
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what the fuck lol I feel bad for arin, kt is insane. if someone has an unrequited crush on you why on earth would you keep telling them you love them (even as a friend, I would hold back out of courtesy) or ask them to marry you? I looked at his early profile comments. I think it's fucked up to ask your spouse to stop talking to a friend but uhhhh KT was definitely leading him on, it's just not healthy
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Threw this together kind of shitty and quick. Scrolling through all those months of tweets made me see how absolutely crazy she is and how often she vaguetweets or talks about him.
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Wow, reading about the mythical Katie has been a wild ride. It's pretty sad that this seems to be all she has going for her, it makes her look even worse than Suzy. I wonder if she browses here.
Sage because this is a bit stale in comparison to the milk flowing now but to elaborate on the game gyaru line:
- Suzy posted on Instagram that she launched the line herself.
- It's a pretty straight dirty pair rip (see pic attached).
- Some people called them out on that but no one at game grumps cared. The closest thing to an acknowledgment was Arin randomly tweeting that he was rewatching dirty pair.
- The company (the Odd Gentlemen) that actually drew the art (because Arin can't be arsed to draw his own shit) is the same company that stole over a million dollars from Andrew Hussie when he did a kickstarter for a homestuck game.
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included Suzy's insta post.
If I remember correctly, they were very open with the fact that it was inspired by/an homage to Dirty Pair. They mentioned it a lot in episodes
As for Suzy taking credit, that's bullshit since Arin is the one who actually likes anime and they got another artist to do the designs
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Whoops. Forgot pic
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This is probably the worst thing i've ever read. Arin has damsel in distress issues- whatever the princess saving syndrome is called. He really wrote about a woman being beaten and raped but wanting Egoraptor to be her knight in shining armor even though she's an ex-assassin? Big Yikes
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>how dare suzy poision my best friend against me!!! I miss him!!!
She's not even his ex. That's the really disturbing thing…well more bizarre. She's just his ex-friend that rejected HIM. He just got a girlfriend and turned out she didn't like him being close to a girl he was in love with. Whether Suzy is a jealous bitch or not, a healthy thing to do is limit the friendship for the sake of Suzy and Arin's relationship. I mean it sucks to lose your friend, but clearly she's insanely salty and jealous over Suzy. All these years I thought Suzy was the nutso. >>794138
Ironically, she posts a message with Suzy that makes Suzy sound a bit reasonable. She doesn't say KT did anything wrong, but says that Arin was trying to buy her love. Looks like Suzy put the responsibility on Arin.
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She sounds paranoid tbh. If what Katie says is true and GG wouldn't exist if she and Arin got together, would they still be a couple today? Doubt she'd be this ride or die if he was still a struggling animator.
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I'm guessing she's stuck there because that's when she peaked. In high school.
>>794327>hides her scars from the rape and abuse bc she doesn't want Egoraptor to think she's ugly
Massive red flag if this is what he thinks of when designing a gf for his self insert OC.>>794437
This girl is gonna be a school shooter.
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If katie cares bout these things so much, why doesnt she do it herself? What business does she have telling people what to do or tweet? Damn I don't like suzy, but I'll take her over katie. I can already imagine how she dreams about taking over GG if she just had an in.
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I mean, at this point she'll take what she can get anyway. Suzy, Arin, Danny, doesn't matter.
She's pretty clearly living vicariously through Suzy, so she needs Snooz to do things SHE would do to fulfill the experience.>>794497
He was a teenager when he designed this.
She thinks Suzy is copying her when you can find girls all over insta and twitter that post the same shit as both of them
They're both just basic, ~30-year old, faux-goth girls
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Sheesh leave Ross alone, you nutcase
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I doubt she was posting in the old threads, seems like she just emerged recently with 15+ years of butthurt considering she was replying to devArt comments from a million years ago. She also has a pretty distinct way of posting (by that I mean her tweets look like your weird internet-inept aunt who just comments on everything you do on social media) I feel like she would be a pretty obvious newfag if she posted here.
What do you think brought this all on suddenly? Did she get divorced and start googling her "exes" or something? Did she really not know about GG or anything before now?>>794521>art don't work like dat
not the point of the cap I know, but that reply made me kek
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Katie screaming into the void again.
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kek, she really believes that arin will come running back to her any day now. he may not be the smartest man but he ain't that dumb.
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She convinced herself that Suzy has been copying everything she does and that if she posts something on the net, Suzy will do the same. She thinks that Suzy will immediately advise Game Grumps on giving 100% of the merch sales to charity now that she (Katie) has posted about it.
"freebie" - advice/stuff/behaviour that Katie thinks Suzy is copying from her.
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These tweets are fucking hilarious.
Most saltiest shit I've read in awhile. I hate Egoraptor but, I hope he gets off seeing this bitch suffer after leading him on for years only to deny him. now all she has to brag for is "rejecting him romantically" years ago and thinking she's the reason he got with suzy. this is some crazy ass karma.
I agree with everyone that she definitely lead him on and was totally milking him for attention but my goodness the negs she spews towards him while simultaneously trying o win him back. Make it seem like the short friendship they had was probably super shitty and abusive
.> Does he even draw even more?> We didn't date because YOU'RE the narcissist> My influence on his life caused GG so I'mm take all the credit for his hard work> You can do it, you can get on the big screen!
The last one really gets me, Fake cheering him on as if he hasn't reached at point in success where he, his wife, and his friends are set for life and he doesn't need randos form his past spouting platitudes about him on twitter (say what you will about the state of GG but none of them are poor or needing any pity in that regard).
In a weird way it makes me see Arin and Suzys marrige in a way better light. he has no self esteem to the point that he put up with constant insults form someone like katie for years until suzy came along and boosted his ego. Sure she may enable some of the crappier parts of his personality, but damn is he in a much better place than he was then
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She made a big stink about not giving suzy any more "freebies" then turns around to dole out more commands about how suzy should run her life. Katie really can't help herself. Sad.
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I searched a bit on the net to see if Arin has ever mentioned Katie in the recent times, came across this.
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Hide your husbands, ladies! Confirmed that Katie is single and on the prowl.
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>spends years rejecting him
>gets jealous when he hooks up
seems like she had it lol this girl is a trip
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This was what Katie was busy tweeting while everyone else was still celebrating 2019. Happy new year.
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Arin, on the other hand:
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>>794658>i just needs me a person who understands to leave me the fuck alone
Then Arin really is her dream guy cause he's been leaving her the fuck alone for….what, 10+ years? What's the problem then?>>794631
God, I would LOVE to see her try and bring a court case against Snooz for "cashing in on her persona" (a la Poppy/Mars Argo). It doesn't seem like it would be that out of character, if she's really that delusional. I mean I find Suzy insufferable but like, I can't even wrap my head around Katie's thought process here. She thinks Suzy's entire personality is based off of a friend of a friend she knew only over the internet 15 years ago? How is that possibly
enough information for Suzy to create a "whole personality" around? So somehow Suzy is skinwalking Katie even though Katie disappeared from their lives/the internet for 15 years? How Katie
? You think she was sitting outside your window for 15 years watching and taking notes on everything you did? Just to keep Arin interested?
Snooze is still scummy though. nevermind her looks, her entire jewelry business is done by others while she claims full credit and over charges because she's efamous.
But at least she's living an actual life, this Katie person sounds legit insane and can't get over the "what could've been".
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>>794676>I spent 5 minutes on the dragon ball wiki like a dumbass trying to remember who the fuck cyarin was
LMFAO same here.I thought it was DBZ Piccolo's gf or something. >>794711>she thinks she's cyarin, who is a shitty artist who does nothing but skinwalk loish, so, she's kinda right in that regard
That cyarin girl seems equally as self-obsessed as Katie since she constantly draws kawaii auto-portraits of herself. Birds of a feather flock together I guess.
Also>Katie's "art"even suzy can draw better than that
>>794668>piccolo hooked up w/ a fan who made them famous but influenced their art to not be as good>hooked up w/ a fan who made them famous
This is so confusing. Is she trying to say that Suzy is the one who made Arin famous? Like, Arin picked Suzy over Katie because Suzy would make him famous?? I'm familliar with the artist cyarin but not picolo or this backstory. What the hell is she talking about?
>peak picolo & cyarin>picolo hooked up w/ a fan who made them famous>a lot of ppl remember
So she's trying to say that she and Arin weren't famous, and then Arin got together with Suzy who MADE him famous, but somehow people remembered and cared about his personal life….before he got famous? Back when nobody knew who he was? Bruh I can't do this mental gymnastics…
Anything he's done that's milky is from like ages ago. Like not understanding some PC language etc.
For the most part he's an old man who just listens to music and keeps to himself
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Unless I'm mistaken her tweets only go back to the end of November 2018, but she started tweeing about Arin and Suzy in early December, so, about a week after she made the account. She was most likely obsessing over Arin for much longer as she referenced her ex-husband smudging/ruining art he drew of her that she had saved for several years.
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I’m 300% sure this violet girl reads here. Imagine the reaction when your milk fodder source for your Suzy hateboner turns into a thread about yourself instead, get help with your midlife crisis lmao
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Random tidbit: KT attend college in 2011 but apparently never graduated or ended up doing nothing with her degree
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Katie has a serious case of "I'm not like Other Girls™" syndrome.
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Interesting. She also was supposed to move away to California to pursue her dream of being an actress. Looks like it didn't work out, kek. It must suuuuuuck to end up as a waitress back in your old city, while seeing the guy you rejected become a famous millionaire.
Wow, that is really pitiful.
I'm not too well-versed in Game Grumps stuff. Can anyone provide me with a brief timeline? Egoraptor started animating in 2004 and quit sometime around 2012 to do Game Grumps. KT and Arin were friends for three years during that time, and Arin also met Suzy then. Anyone have more specific dates?
I doubt Katie is a reliable source, but according to her:
>He pursued me from the end of 2003 to about 2006; Arin & Suzy met in the summer of 2004.
But in "Arin Wikipedias Himself" he says that he and Suzy started dating in 2002 or 2003, it was a long time ago so he doesn't exactly remember when.
It's crazy because she claims Arin and her were never together, but is obsessed with the exact timeline of when Arin and Suzy got together. It's so pathetic how she pores over the little details of someone else's relationship.
She keeps talking about being "written out of history" but honestly, no one gives a shit if Arin had other crushes before meeting his soon to be wife. Katie is less than irrelevant. Read Arin's LJ and you'll see he had a crushes on lots of girls, not just Katie, before meeting his first girlfriend Suzy.
The only difference is that those many other girls that Arin crushed on as a teenager moved on with their lives. Katie is the only one with of them who demands some kind of recognition, for what exactly? Being some pimply teenage nerds crush in the 2000s? Does Katie think future historians are going to care about this shit? Get a fucking life. 1
Well if she had been dating Arin since 2003 or whatever I guess she wouldn't have married her abusive
ex and maybe be more adjusted? Maybe that's why she's so salty, because instead of the millionaire waifu timeline that was literally at her fingertips she got the abused mentally ill one instead.
I didn't say anywhere in my post that she shouldn't be held accountable. She's the one who led Arin on and kept him at arms length to use as an emotional punching bag because she clearly never thought he'd actually get a girlfriend. But it wouldn't surprise me if that's exactly how she sees it, that she was "robbed" of a good life because Suzy and Arin.
If her ex was actually abusive
though then I'm sure it took a toll on her mental health, but maybe she's always been insane.
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Katie didn't become an actress in California because she chose not to, guys! That's why she wanted to become a waitress in Chicago instead. See? Dreams do come true.
That's true. But that's also a big if. Physical abusers deserve no quarter.
But Katie by her own admission talked about Arin enough and show off his gifts to the point of making her ex uncomfortable. Shows zero consideration and respect for a partner's feelings. I wouldn't want to be treated like that. I wouldn't hit someone over it, but I'd definitely peace out.
She could be lying considering her track record, but even if she was a shitty partner herself she still could've been subject to emotional/physical abuse. Chances are it was a toxic
relationship on all sides. >>794898
I was just clarifying my stance, anon.
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I think she really wants the egoboost she had during high school back.
This is a drawing she did back in the day, basically saying "i'm a nerd girl with boobs, look at all these guys wanting to marry me!"
She's not ~*the special magical purple haired cool and nerdy girl with green eyes who all boys want uwu*~ anymore, she's a 30-something washed up nobody still wearing tacky 2000s fashion.
Also Katie is angry at Suzy because she thinks she's so much more special and original, she should've gotten internet fame and money instead!
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This isn't really milk, but someone bought what feels like every ticket to the grump live show ever and is selling them on ebay for 500 bucks.
There are three pages full of this shit.
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>stalks Suzy's profile to see if there's anything vaguely similar between them
>accuses Suzy actually being the one stalking her
Huh. Okay then.
most of her Twitter posts that aren't about GG are about how she's a super strong awesome psychic/witch who trains other psychics out of the pure kindness of her heart and asks for nothing in return but the satisfaction of being a teacher.
She's got serious eight grade syndrome that she has yet to grow out of.
>>794925> super powerful witch> couldn't kick start her acting career> couldn't move to cali> couldn't get a job she doesn't hate> couldn't stop herself from marrying a person she claims is abusive> couldn't keep arin interested
Suzy also says she's a powerful witch in her bio and I know she's not super serious about it like kt but damn is she a better witch than kt because no matter what she does she still has wealth, love, an endless supply of opportunities she doesn't deserve, and constant support. she's demonstrated way more witch powers than kt
Most of her recent tweets definitely seem to be directed at arin/suzy though, I think her obsession is slowly ramping up over time and I'm so excited to see where this ball of crazy goes
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Comparing your broke divorcée ass to victims of a house fire. Gross.
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Being ignored is not the same as being mistreated. Getting this worked out over a fan wiki is ridiculous.
how in the hell does she think she's been mistreated? Cause he online friend from high school grew up and moved on?
Damn I hope she DOES see this thread so she can get some perspective on how insane she looks.
But then again, someone this crazy is probably too far up their own ass to ever see it.
That's why it's hard to believe they only just divorced. There's no way that anyone with any self respect would put up with her with long… though just typing it out the obvious also occurs, that nobody with self respect would have married her in the first place.>>794896
Was also wrong for guessing it was her below average face and atrocious diva attitude that stood in her way. She just knew her calling was elsewhere! Also, what are sour grapes?
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yeah, that sounds like some plausible early 2000s weeaboo boy nonsense>>794830
nah, yall are giving her WAY too much credit here, she's far too dumb to have made it this far, she can barely understand twitter>>794928>>794926
how much longer until she drives to California in a diaper with a bunch of weapons like that one astronaut? We can't be far off
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Has this masterpiece been posted yet?
>I love this. I had to submit it.
(ot but is anyone else living for this 2000s deviantART/internet weeb community cringefest? I can feel *teh glomp xDDDD RWAR WAFFLES!! lol so random!! ^__~* in my blood)
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why would anyone ever want to copy this girl's "persona"? She's just a homely weeb who styles herself like its still 2001.
Say what you want about Suzy, but she's about 100 times better looking than this crazy B
She's one of those women who think that "gamer nerd girls" are some rare thing and she's a jewel to be had
When in reality she has a surface level interest in games and a batshit brain.
Not really any milk on Dan. Him and Barry were genuinely the best grumps and most liked.
I always hated Ross. He's said some sexist shit in their Sierra (King's quest) old play throughs. Surprised Holly took that shit
I get what you mean. I wouldn't think much of this kind of behavior from someone who was still
only 15-16 years old. But Katie is in her 30s, has a job, and has been married. She should know better than to act like this. Does she really think Arin is just gonna swoop in and save her from her humdrum little life to his mansion in CA? Say what you will of Suzy, but she put in the time.
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don't give katie any ideas, now
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>arin will become next bill cosby
>>795327>Arin, you're turning into a monster and I'm the only one who cares enough to help you turn it all around
Classy, Katie. I never though I'd see someone with a victim
complex and a savior complex at the same time.
She seems to have this really idealized version of Arin in her head. The 15 year old Arin.
It's pretty manipulative of her to want him to literally not change, or if he does it has to be on her checklist of what she deems acceptable. That's some pretty finite "unconditional love" that she professes to have.
It doesn't seem like she has an idealized version of him in her head as much as it sounds like she's just a plain old manipulator. She's a really shitty one, but she tries really hard. There is no reason to say that Arin will be "the next Bill Cosby", he may be a childish or a slob, but there is no reason to believe he is a rapist or sexually assaults people or will do so in the future. She's only pulling that card because she want's to bait out an emotional response, it's completely illogical for a normal person to say something like that even if they were putting old Arin on a pedestal. Bill Cosby has nothing to do with 15 year old Arin or 32 year old Arin.>>795334
Until I saw what Katie was like, I did think that Suzy made Arin a worse person. Now that I see what kind of "friendships" he was in before Suzy, I fully believe that he's way better off with Suzy. She enables some shitty behavior, but over all she's a way better person to have around if the only other choice is Katie.>>795378
I'm dying to know this too, or is she only tweeting publicly as a form of triangulation and not actually trying to contact Arin directly at all? Either way it's shitty and manipulative.
Reminder to all: sage any non-contributions or we'll be put on auto sage even though this milk just started to flow.
she hasn't spoken to him in a decade but she knows and loves him best. lmao.>>795433
I doubt she knows about this place unless she was googling Suzy hate or something.
Gail Chord Schuler vibes too. The schizo lady on YT who thinks various famous people ranging from Vladimir Putin and the guy that plays Data in Star Trek are secretly her lovers on a "marriage list" and that Jesuits are trying to control her with lots of clone business. Also bukkake bombs. She's kind of an interesting cow herself though she's clearly profoundly mentally ill and is harmless to others so no thread is warranted on LC unfortunately.>>795447
This site comes up when you google "suzy berhow liar" and some other variations of this so there's actually a pretty high chance she's seen this site. Prob doesn't know quite how to navigate since chans are a bit unique but I'd be shocked if she really never saw a thread here.
>>792194>consent is dumb and inconsistent
Put this guy on a watch list. Game grump fanboys are some of the most disturbing creatures.>>795569
Yeah, it's easy to find all the lolcow shit about Suzy, especially when she was prime scamming people with her cheap jewelry. I'm sure Katie has read through at least one or two threads. She's probably lurking now
She's too egotistical not to vague us if she saw us shit talking her. We've seen her attempts at manipulating Arin and Suzy: she's not good at being subtle, and she has no shame in acting pathetically desperate online. There's no way she could have held in her spaghetti if she found the latest thread. She probably loves the early ones where she's mysterious and assumed to be a nice person.>>795569
For someone stuck in 2005 she's probably browsed a fair bit of 4chan, but perhaps she's only gotten though the older threads and hasn't read this current one yet.
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That post is genuinely disturbing.
A little OT but most of the Grumps have given consent (or fueled the fire) regarding polygrumps. Kevin was the only person asked who straight up said he didn't want himself involved in shipping. Dan had no problem with Dan/Arin ships but got a little testy when Brian was reading a NSP fan fiction about Brian sucking him off. Maybe it was because Brian is a little more blunt with his humor and didn't have the hint hint nudge nudge wink wink totally joking tone that Arin put on for the most part.
My guess is that they endorsed that shit to keep their fans happy but let it slip their minds that not all of their fans are self-aware and understand boundaries. On the flip side, I can't feel an ounce of sympathy for these 30-40 year olds selling fucking body pillows to a fanbase that consists predominantly of manipulable children with their mommy's credit card pin. >>792407
So far it looks like most are just whiteknighting for her to look like the better fans. "Let's not shut up about how this woman needs to be protected to prove that we're better than those creepy fans!" yeah ok.
undoubtedly that picture was taken for a lul. i guess its shocking to people that someone would be alright with lewd drawing of them or gross fanfics but at some point people have to realize that they know they are scrutinized so harshly and maybe in comparison some cartoon titties or some fangirls fanfic fantasy is less offensive than pointing out that a particular player in the group is ruining their business or bringing up scamming or the dumb shit they got into in highschool.
maybe its because they like that kind of stuff or maybe its because they can assess what really matters but it seems like a situation that anne rice got in or orson scott card when they bleated about people to stop writing fanfics about their fiction. just because you say no doesnt mean people will respect it
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Not sure what their "official" timeline is, but judging by some deviantart snooping, this much is clear>2004: Suzy & Arin know each other and are at least friends>Feb 2005: Arin posts Valentine's Day pic of someone who is most likely Katie, so they were still involved at this point (whatever that means)>Feb 2006: Katie is married, and had been for how long?
So the 2006 mentioned here >>794872
is at least true….but probably only cause she got married? There's several submissions from Arin of him and Katie before 2005, so as much as she likes to claim she didn't lead him on or was clear about her feelings….sure don't seem that way. Especially with stuff like >>795000
Anyways, I'd just as easily believe Arin's an idiot and doesn't remember exactly when he and Suzy got together cause he was probably flirting with several girls online. Not so sure about Suzy though, I'm sure she believes her version of their "love story". Katie's definitely the most frequently drawn/referenced, but she's not the only one. It's entirely possible she's believing her version of events because she just doesn't know the full story.
We all had crushes on a nerdy boy over the internet between 2000-2010 who was definitely talking to several other girls, right? I'm sure if I went into a cryogenic sleep during that time and just woke up now I'd be as upset as she was (or at least that's how she's acting, anyways)
the real crazy isn't if the 'timeline' adds up or not, but now fucking obsessed KT is over it. like who gives a single shit if suzy and arin started dating in 2002 or not? how is this even something that would matter as a 'lie' were they intentionally lying?
she's just batshit
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Oh yeah I mean, she's for sure the craziest one here, but now I'm just too wrapped up in the nostalgia to look away. It's like a beautiful period drama.
This was a comment on the Suzy pic Arin drew, kind of the only one that seems to imply a relationship (but could also just be a teenage girl sperging). But again, surrounded by a dozen pics proclaiming his love for Katie, before AND after the Suzy drawing.
You're right, the timeline is a bit muddled. I would agree with you that Arin probably had his eye on several girls; Katie just happened to have more art dedicated to her. Katie is nuts to cling to the belief that she was his one and only
No one had a gun to her head, forcing her to marry a guy at 19-ish. I would not be surprised if that were the reason she never moved out to Cali to pursue her dream of being an actress. Arin, otoh, was motivated by Suzy to pursue a new dream, and they're a couple of millionaires as a result. That's gotta sting, kek!
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More of Katie vagueing about how Suzy has "whipped" Arin. 🙄
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Never seen anyone seenzoned this badly, kek.
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This gave me a good laugh. She's really blurring the line between confidence and delusion. Okay, it's just delusion.
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how is it that they have 5 million subs yet most of their recent videos don't even hit 1 mil? they seem so popular but their fans don't even watch their videos. how are you going to get celebrities like finn wolfhard and jamie lee curtis on your channel but your engagement is this bad.
GG is so dead that even their threads have turned into mass posting about Arins past infatuation bc shes neurotic/ slightly weird cause now they can't even call snooze fat.
I never do the [hi cow] in threads, but who the fuck would call her neurotic/slightly weird while mentioning she's a past infatuation? KT is obsessed to the point that she's tweeting Arin and HIS WIFE OF YEARS after not talking to them for 15 years. As I was posting caps I finally stopped because there's so much milk that anons might as well just go to her twitter instead of flooding here. Maybe you meant slightly deranged since she hasn't assaulted anyone yet.
GG isn't enjoying their former fame, but I wouldn't say they're dead. Just on the decline.
You know, going back to GG and mostly Suzy, I really disliked her and it was fun seeing someone who mooched off of her husband get fat and whine all day. Her etsy is a scam and she thinks she's entitled to youtube success, but she's not all that horrible for her to be a genuine cow. Just an obnoxious unlikable person. It's good that she lost weight because there's health benefits and gotta give props to someone who keeps weight off even if some of it was with lipo. As we've seen with Momokun, lipo can't help fatasses alone. Well, I suppose there's those that believe Suzy ruins GG, but I never liked it anyway. Best part was the editing but Barry left. KT is a way more interesting cow than suzy ever was. At least for some temporary milk.
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>If you care about somebody who doesn't understand how to care about themself. Like, if you love a masochist, I find… I mean, it's a very painful situation because you care so deeply about someone who just doesn't understand like how to take care of themself. And they just like… theirself, sorry. And they just keep going back to like these unhealthy behaviors or thought processes or types of people and it just gets to frustrating because you care about them and like maybe you've even been in the situation before and you know from first-hand experience. But like it's so hard… it's so painful to care about someone who doesn't care about theirself. Themself. Because, like, how… care is health, right? It's always like the best, it's growth, it's not causing pain. Like, if you keep hitting yourself, like you're like, "What the fuck, why am I always in pain?" Stop fucking hitting yourself, okay? Like, if you have a tendency to go towards abusive people and relationships, recognize what it is that is so familiar or drawing or comforting. Like, what is attractive to you is probably because it's just familiar. And once you recognize what it is, you need to be like, "Okay, I get it. I'm drawn to this type of guy because my own brother was the same personality type, or my dad was the same personality type, or my mom was very similar." Like, whatever your reason is. You're drawn to things because they're familiar, more or less, blah, blah, blah. I'm getting off-point. I'm gonna cut this out. But it's just awareness. It's making conscious efforts. It's not going back to that same thing that is hurting you. And then like, once you stop going back to the things that hurt you, then you reached neutral territory, and that's kind of step one after becoming a masochist. It's like just neutral territory, just not being in pain. And then you get used to that, and then you're like, discover healthy people and like good people and like… I know I don't believe in good or bad, but like, you know what I mean by good people. Like, people who don't intentionally hurt others and then they like do things to help others like… there's like… it's just so many different… steps on the road to becoming healthy. It's not…. you don't wake up healthy, man. You might wake up being less unhealthy, but you don't wake up being healthy. And I mean, I used to be human wreckage when I was a teenager. Like, I had a fucking horrible life when I was younger. I'm not gonna get into it, but like there are things that people go through that might make life worse. Like, if you go through a trauma, you're gonna get fucked up. It's trauma. I mean like, yeah nobody expects you to be like this two-dimensional comic book hero, you know? You're not like, "Okay, that's over, I'm good." Like, you have feelings and a mind and a soul, if you believe in a soul, and all that bullshit. Like, sometimes things take years to get over. Sometimes, people don't get over things. But if you want to get over things, that's the key, is like… that's not all there is to it, like there's so much, like… but motivation is always number one. If you go through a trauma and you hide from your pain and you get triggered and you fucking shut everything down and you embrace… you just crawl into that cave of yourself, you're never gonna heal that way. You gotta crawl out of that cave. You have to get through it. You have to get over your trauma. And then you're like that much stronger and that much cooler. And you might be… you might have like PTSD for a while or whatever. Like, healing… there's no finite amount of time for healing. There are no rules when it comes to the healing, okay? Just however long it takes, whatever you have to do. Like, obviously, don't hurt other people. But like, if you need to fucking call somebody up and be like, "Hey motherfucker, you hurt me!" Like, do that. It's okay. If somebody hurt you, it's okay to do that. If they don't… there are no guarantees that they're gonna give you resolution, but like, at least you're making the effort and you go from there. Just like with anything in life. Your dad fucking walked out on you when you were seven years old, and you're like 30 and you wanna track him down? Fucking track him down! Do whatever you need to do to get closure! And, I dunno man, like personally I had really… I did not have good parents. I really didn't. They… they provided for me, like I had a house. But we weren't rich, we were very fucking poor. Like, food stamps and Goodwill in the nineties when it was gross, kind of poor? And like… but I had a house. I had a meal. I didn't have good parents. Like, they never… my father was physically abusive, my father was really, really mentally unstable. I'm not gonna go into his history, but… I'm getting off-topic. I'm gonna cut this, too. Not gonna talk about personal stuff. Anyway, where was I going with this? I was just like… when your mind is like a thousand miles an hour in no specific direction… you just get like a million half-a-thoughts. That's horrible. It was not like this before the fucking seizures and the CTs and stuff. Like, legit, I noticed the difference. Anyway, what was I talking about? I was talking about unhealthy patterns and behaviors and preferences and adjusting that and just getting away from unhealthiness and focusing on just being okay. That's what it is, it's just focusing on being okay for a while. Just focusing on not being damaged. And then once you're not in pain all the time and once you're okay, then you can be happy. Then it's just steps and recognizing what unhealthy things to not go for and then like, developing healthy tastes. That's what I'm going to… but yeah, I'm gonna wrap this up because I'm losing my train of thought, so um I hope this helps somebody. This is really just like… I just think a lot. Thinking is one of my favorite hobbies. And I like to apply personal experience to my thinking, because that's just how I am. And like, I dunno, I'm just trying to be the guidebook that I wish I had when I was a teenager. So I hope that helps someone. Alright, um, okay, bye.
This girl is absolutely batshit but whoah
Supposing she’s not pulling this out her arse and her dad really was physically abusive
, that sucks
It would make marrying at 19ish a more sensible choice than staying at home getting beaten
I mean, obviously I can’t speak for every single fan, but even though I do consider myself one I don’t watch every video, just the games I’m actually interested in? Sage for slight blogposting >>796590
It honestly wouldn’t surprise me if Melissa wasn’t based on her at all. he could have easily just said it was a crush and she assumed it was her
If there was proof of melissa existing before arin met katie that would really be juicy, especially since she's so obsessed with the "timeline". unfortunately i don't think he was online back then.
Also melissas backstory is already super gross, but knowing it's about a middle school girl is really ew. middle school arin really didn't think very highly of women
her twitter bio says US, so who knows. >>796822
whose wiki article even reflects total nobodies they were friends with once upon a time? can you imagine if some famous actor had a whole paragraph dedicated to a literal who they crushed on in high school then moved on and never spoke to them again?
I don't get why people itt are so disgusted by a character made by a literal teenager. Yeah, he "strung along" a bunch of girls at a time when he wasn't mature enough to understand that, and yeah he was very nonchalant about giving his oc an insensitive rape back story. As if he should have know better at the ripe old age of what, 16?
I know it sounds like I'm wking, but it sounds like anons are being wilfully ignorant of the fact that he was a kid with a vague understanding of important things.
That's still fucking gross to imagine that your ~dream girl uwu~ is a traumatized rape victim
whose only concern is for her beloved not to be repulsed by her scars.
He was fetishizing rape (or treating it like a moe point) and that's disgusting.
>barely an adult.
At 21-23 you're old enough to make your own decisions.
“Barely an adult” does not negate a 21-year old being able to make their own decisions. That’s irrelevant.
If being 18+ is an “adult” by American standard, the statement that she’s “barely” an adult makes sense, anon.
Because people did stupid shit back in the day and you can still call em out on it. Maybe i'm a normal teenager, but i didnt draw my childhood crushes as rape victims
who cant do anything with me /needing to be saved. it's creepy, especially considering how Arin is. No idea why you're defending Arin so hard. >>797434
but it's obviously implying something by wording it that way.
It's infantilizing tbh. Treating people (women) like they're dumb babies until they're 25+
I agree, at least Arin had the good grace to not explain her backstory too much in the video. It's pathetic that Katie still wants her to be some sort of advocate/role model for abuse victims
. Fucking yikes.
I highly doubt that’s what the other anon meant. I get your point but I don’t think they were trying to minimize the agency of young women.
the point was that age gaps that large can create weird dynamics within a relationship. Someone with comparatively less lived experience is going to be inherently vulnerable to someone who’s much older. it’s a power imbalance thing but I doubt it holds much ground in their relationship like >>797409
said. dan’s got some major arrested development just like the rest of the GG crew, although you do have to consider the public persona isn’t going to be the same as the private person is the relationship.
what’s more concerning is probably the clout that Dan has wrt his fan base and general internet presence - that would create more of a power imbalance between the two than an age gap.
The majority of this site is female, no one is infantilizing young women here. You haven't finished developing just because your age starts with 2. On top of that, you've probably just left your parents and, for the first time, have to find your own path in life.
So yeah, at 21 you are very vulnerable and any concern over an age gap like that is completely justified.
Of course every situation is different and we can't accurately judge it without knowing them but if she were my friend I would definitely be wary.
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Back at it again with the desperate thirst tweets.
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Can someone tell me why they keep blaming the algorithm and not because their content has gotten downhill? Do they not have any self awareness?
I don't really have proof but most gaming channels are getting hit hard. Idk if because of streaming or algorithm but it's true most of my gaming channels who did long series do one offs or vlogs now and I stopped caring. Many claim algorithm changes made it hard for longer running series and that you needed to be within 20min mark etc.
This happened with animation back in the day too the algorithm/trend killed egorapter and he made gg because of it.
Saged this for blog post with no proof
I'm surprised they stayed that long with them tbh
Chris and his groupies didn't even last a few months
I dunno why people are upset they're doing streams anyway since they get put on Youtube as a VOD eventually. So people can still watch them. This person is getting aggro about fucking let's players
Also GG has a whole office of people to pay, so I'm not gonna blame them for trying to get more money. I just hate their new stream managers that try and act like they run the whole show
the fan on reddit said "why not be honest that it brings more money" and that's the crux of the issue. so many lets players are moving to twitch and gg is becoming one of them, more frequently, and with the "core" duo of arin and dan. I would have appreciated the same honesty as well. I don't necessarily want to watch a full 2-hour stream filled with arin being a giant manchild but it's a bit easier to digest in smaller portions.
in other news dan has again annoyed me (a feat he rarely accomplishes tbh) in the recent twilight princess playthrough he was talking about American Pie and the scene where one of the females is masturbating and she's being broadcast/recorded without her knowledge, and how he finds this scene funny (forgive the hazy details but it's been literal years since I've seen this movie) and Arin is like "wait, so she's not aware she's being filmed?" and Arin's conclusion is "gross". To be honest I agree with him, I didn't like the stupid film then, I don't like it now, and Arin points out how it's icky that it happens and she's not aware of it, and Dan honest to god is like "are you going to SJW me over AMERICAN PIE?" and Arin is like "dude I'm not criticizing YOU, I'm saying that part is gross" and Dan is honestly acting like an incel neckbeard defending his uwu peak of comedy movie
and it seemed so unlike him. Yeah, we know he likes immature humour and I get he's probably looking at the movie with rose tinted glasses of nostalgia, but to ACTUALLY AGREE with Arin Hanson was shocking. He had a reasonable answer to that scene and was actually being sensible about it. I don't know what bee stung Dan in the ass, maybe he had a bad day or something, but you never expected "uwu the lovelies are the best, peace and love" Dan to be defending a shitty early 2000s movie about a guy trying to get laid
Added the video with a timestamp but if it doesn't work, they start the conversation at 9:02 and it continues in fragments
I've also noticed Danny has been getting weirdly grumpy lately, and it seems to be in response to Arin trying to be less "offensive" in his language. like he's turning into an inflexible old white man. Arin has innocently said things like "I know this word can be derogatory, but that's not what it means in this context" and Danny immediately responds "ugh, shut the fuck up man." (in the psycho waluigi LP)
GG has NEVER tried to be ~SJW~, but you don't have to reflexively shit on someone trying to be considerate for 5 seconds. I've noticed him do this in multiple ways with increasing frequency and tbh that's what's made me stop watching as often. Danny is getting meaner.
Hasn't Dan been like this for years now? Under that crusty bath salts ~uwu~ exterior he's the guy who only has time for girls who look young and willing to let him exfoliate them with his carapace.
His convos tended to take weird and gross turns during the Dark Souls 3 playthroughs as well but I don't remember Arin ever jumping in with a "wait what?"
it's funny because dan was always the "soft" one of the two that tried to diffuse offensive jokes or situations by being like "we don't mean it that way" or whatever. Arin has the shadier history with the whole "needing to yell out the n word repeatedly after meeting his black friend". Which was really shitty then and now but damn, when it comes to social issues, I'm siding with Arin sometimes, because he often has a sense of common decency like "yeah, but I don't NEED to act like an ass so why be one?". He needs to work on his racial accents humour but that's another thing.
I thought Dan would have calmed down now that he has his longterm girlfriend Ashley (is she even the same Ashley he used to mention eons ago?). And we knew that he was already morphing into old man territory by sticking to his old retro games and his Rush music. He doesn't know ANYTHING about new games unless Arin tells him or they play them on the channel. I didn't really mind until now because I liked Dan's mellow vibe especially next to Arin. But he's just getting worse.
At first I thought his fallout with Kati caused a lot of issues; after all him and Holly basically gave her housing, promo and lots of opportunities and she gossiped about them behind their back to her theatre group. Then she left, disappeared from the internet and wrote some sob story about making mistakes and how flawed people are. And Dan seemed close to Holly at least due to Kati at the time, and now Holly has left. I thought maybe he was just a bit salty still about it and especially since he can't really "talk about it" publicly because people would ask "hey where's kati???" since they posted all the time about each other.
I thought him reconsidering the idea of marriage and family meant he was like… softening? Chilling out? He's just becoming worse. Yikes. I never was against the idea of Dan calling out where it's due, like when Arin doesn't pay attention in games and then blames the game, or calling out bullshit online or offline, but he's not really choosing his battles wisely. Is American Pie really the hill he chose to die on? He was SO stubborn about that damn movie, let it go Dan, it wasn't that good back then and it's not that good now.
The weirdest part to me about super mega is that they used to be markipliers editors and lived with him in his house.
After marks friend committed suicide their friendship was strained due to the fact mark is a total asshole about editing and just God in fucking general. So gg took sm under their wing after Mark kicked them out of his house and unemployed them.
Now look at them blowing the fuck up and being almost better than gg is.
Kinda funny to me
>>802084>"less PC" than GG
kek as if GG was PC in the first place
Dan is a shit but the episodes with Jon were even worse
It's really clear to me that this girl was the type to keep dropping hints and leading Arin on while claiming she's not interested.
Just from how she talks about him now. You'd think they were past lovers or something.
Good on Arin for being disgusted with a scene like that. A lot of movies from the late 80s and early 2000s use a lot of non consent 'humor' and women are always the butt. (panty stealing, watching them without consent, etc etc…) So good on Arin. Dan using the term 'SJW' on him reminds me of when Jontron used to use uncomfortable 'jokes' and Arin was always visibly uneasy with them.
Dan needs to fuck off. He is the definition of a nice guy .
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holy shit, y'all seein this going down right now? hopefully ok to post here cause it's holly is (was) gg related
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Was just about to post this kek
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I was scrolling leisurely on my phone and was so startled I had to jump to my laptop to read it, I've never been lucky enough to see milk AS it was happening (more caps)
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she just posted this on twitter and the comments are annihilating her, what the fuck is going on lmao
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She posted this right before Heidi exposed her and Jared
read as: yes i cheated on my wife but dont think im a bad person uwu
i wonder if this was happening while ross was still in the picture?? im honestly shook but ive always gotten bad vibes from holly, so if this is true im not surprised.
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Blocking her was the most guilty thing he could've done. God I hope she drops some receipts.
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More from Heidi.
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Holly and Ross announced their divorce in September and I can't help but wonder if her and Jared were already fuckin' but she couldn't bring herself to be honest with Ross about it.
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Wow the fucking DARVO on that is incredible. Christ almighty. >>803407
I only lurk on a really casual basis so idr when Ross and Holly split but Heidi said Holly and Jared have been hooking up since last fall.
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holy shit lmaooo, good catch>>803408>>803411>Why would anyone have sex with ProJared in the first place???
This is really the big question. Can you believe a man with that little chin somehow conned 2 moderately attractive girls into having sex with him?>him?>>803407>>803408>>803415
I was wondering this too, but if it was part of the undoing of Ross & Holly, did Ross not know? Or has he just kept quiet about it? Seems like they were (at least publicly) amicable about it.
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Reddit is down so I can't screencap but people were noticing how Holly was always away back then too.
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peanut butter gamer has been defending jared in the comments and saying "~he knows more~" and talking about how heidi is mentally ill. i really don't know what to believe. heidi posts receipts girl
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Ross's tweet on the divorce was dated Sep 19 last year. The timelines are pretty close.
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i'm just as confused as you are, anon
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heidi aint stopping anytime lmao
and she shouldn't if idiots like PBG keep trying to clean up this mess and fail
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Still going…he solicited nudes from his fans too.
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receipts about to come out. prepare your milk mugs
This fucking bitch.
Everyone thought she was golden and that her and Ross ended on good terms.
What the FUCK is this timeline.
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Oh boy here we go.
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What are you on about? Multiple people have denied there being any truth to what she's saying. You don't have to outright say "this is a lie" for it to be an obvious denial.
Yeah, god forbid that someone wants to see some concrete evidence before believing something at face value. You're an absolute moron.
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Here come the defenders. This is a big accusation..
Whole situation is fucked.
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I screenshot a couple more of Heidi's replies re: the tumblr/snapchat
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I mean, he pruned all the messages but people had their tabs open and took screenshots (which you can easily search for on twitter) and here's a reddit post from way before all of this that thought he was being gross with his fans as well. Don't be obtuse
Bonus pic of him being an embarrassing thirstmonger
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found some pics in the twitter thread
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Spoiler because EW and there are a ton of people in her replies corroborating that he had an 18+ Snapchat and made a lot of sexual comments on his Tumblr.
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Even worse though cause he didn't even post an apology for cheating on his wife, he didn't acknowledge it at all, he tried to make is sound mutual/amicable>we all deserve to be happy uwu>u may see rumors but don't believe them!!>respec our privacy in this v trying time
I mean like….he's doneso right? There's no coming back from this career-wise, right? And Heidi will become Sheena Duquette 2.0, cosplayer continuing to ride the wave of their ex-husband's fame and sympathy. Holly on the other hand….woof. She's double doneso?>>803445>>803435>>803430>>803451>>803454
yikes, completely unwarranted ultra defensive un-saged wk right out of the gate? hmm….gotta be either holly or jared, it's far too soon for anyone else to deny it this hard>Multiple people have denied there being any truth to what she's saying.
care to share those caps? do you have better proof than "c'mon man she's crazy!"
who the fuck would want nudes of this mouth breather? or SEND him nudes? this is wild.
i want to believe heidi re: holly fucking jared shit, but without proof, idk. there's a lot of "big" names staking their rep on both sides. why can't heidi post the messages if they're real? she doesn't have to post holly's nudes, just the conversations.
Why is it that whenever a woman rightfully gets upset that her husband is a piece of shit once she stands up for herself she gets denounced as crazy? Honestly I didn't even know ProJared was married so I can't say anything about Heidi's character but looking at all these people corroborating the fact that Jared was interacting inappropriately with his fans tells me that at least SOMETHING was going on. Holly may or may not be implicit in cheating but Jared obviously was crossing the boundaries of their 'open relationship'.
And before you say I just want to tear him down I did actually use to watch and enjoy his content a lot.
>>803466>gotta be either holly or jared, it's far too soon for anyone else to deny it this hard
I could literally say the same thing about people like you who are willing to instantly believe Heidi, just for the sake of "tea" and "drama" - Does that make you Heidi?
>care to share those caps? do you have better proof than "c'mon man she's crazy!"
There are already caps in this thread, I don't need to spoonfeed you. People in the community who know them better than us, who know them personally, are taking Jared/Holly's side. Hmmm, I wonder why.
yeah this makes sense if you knew nothing about heidi ever at all. the whole porn snapchat bit is coming out like a flood, and having done that alone while being married to his wife is proof enough of cheating. if proof of cheating with Holly
comes out that'll just be an addition to this other fuckery.
it's a wonder the girl didn't go insane living with such a piece of shit husband.
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Lol sure Holly is a pure innocent little bean you all love. SURE
>>803474>the whole porn snapchat bit is coming out like a flood, and having done that alone while being married to his wife is proof enough of cheating
Even though she said herself that she allowed it, that she ALLOWED everything he did in terms of sending nudes etc.
Sis you can't just give your partner permission to do something and then "woops changed my mind" after the fact and call it cheating
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before you go off again on "yes but where is the proof"
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Since all these wk's seem to not be reading the thread I'll post these again. Seems like he was spinning things to seem more innocent than they were and she was dumb enough to fall for it.>>803482
Dear god please refer to >>803463
GOD this is genuinely nauseating>>803468
I'm guessing because they're on his phone….why would she have private messages/nudes between Jared and Holly on her phone? She would have had to take a screenshot of Jared's convos and text them to herself, or take pictures of his phone from her phone, etc etc. Guessing if he was being shady about it for months he kept any obvious access away from her. >>803471>There are already caps in this thread, I don't need to spoonfeed you
Every cap in this thread is talking about how shitty Jared is, what the fuck are you talking about?
>People in the community who know them better than us, who know them personally, are taking Jared/Holly's side
Again, who are you talking about? >>803456
isn't even denying it
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maybe you could hit him up on snapchat. plenty of dick around there i'm told.
again, why are you here? what's been posted is incriminating enough for me and for many other people on heidi's twitter. if it's not enough for you, maybe wait for proof to come out? like you keep asking us to do?
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Not even trying to cover the fact that she may have been a horrible abusive
Easy to say when you're not in the abusive
relationship. Also, basically anything qualifies as cheating to an abusive
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I'm really confused as to where the boundaries were drawn for these two in their """marriage"""
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I know I'm a dumb fuck for taking the bait, and I know that you're just being deliberately obtuse, but you ARE aware that testimony IS considered a form of evidence, right? There are dozens of tweets in Heidi's replies, from people all corroborating how skeevy the tumblr/snapchat bullshit is. If we shouldn't believe all those tweets, why should we believe one (1) thread from one (1) singular fucktard about how nice of a guy Jared is and abloo bloo bloo how mean and abusive
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this enough dick for you? kek
FACE AND EVERYTHING>>803490>>803493
Get rekt whiteknights
okay. um, i'm beginning to feel like i'm feeding a troll here.
do you read? that is literally what i said. if there's proof of the snapchat fuckery (yes yes i know you don't consider it proof. do you do the same shit on your own time?), then it becomes more believable that he did cheat and heidi isn't just a crazy bitch ranting online.
sincerely thank you anon. all my love to ya
awww, i'm so glad he was able to cope with his abusive
wife by sending his lil rat dick to teenagers online /s
this is clearly a case of some fug nerd getting too big for his britches because he got some internet fame. happens every time. >>803516
exactly. if i told my friends my wife was a crazy abusive
harpy and it was making me sooo sad but i was doing my best, they would believe me because i seem like an upstanding person and a good friend otherwise. i bet the people who are claiming to be close to this situation only know what jared's been feeding them - she's abusive
, he had to cheat because something something his self esteem, you guys just DONT GET IT!!!>>803521
because no one is claiming jared is mentally ill or abusive
. just a cheater.
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Jontron Wins Again Baby
this is getting painful to read. i'm pretty sure so, so many girls can relate. and then people ask them "if it was so bad why didn't you dump the person".
i'm seriously feeling for heidi right now.>>803529
do some work, give us the caps
omg, where did you find this?>>803529
she never called him abusive
. she mentioned it was an abuse of power to get nudes from his fans and that there was a power imbalance in their relationship financially, but i don't see anything in these tweets that calls him mentally ill or abusive
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I'm seriously getting the vibes that the whole 'open' aspect of their relationship was because another insecure/possibly mentally ill girl was taken advantage of by an abusive
guy who knew that he could push the limits of their relationship to the extreme while having the safety net of an established wife. Now that he's getting his comeuppance all he can do is cower into a corner and go 'N-no you!' despite all the flood of evidence showing that he was AT THE VERY LEAST being sexually promiscuous with his fans which is a whole 'nother morally bankrupt thing.
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Welcome to gaslighting 101
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Oh man. I've given up on getting sleep at this rate. >>803547
Please sage your shitty WK posts. You're frothing at the pussy for a skinny mouthbreather, we get it.
WK get fucked
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This is coming from Heidi's "close friend" who apparently just shared nudes with Jared rather than warning him against it
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Wow, Holly's ugly ass is a homewrecker. I love this timeline so much.
Eagerly waiting for the text receipts, though the snaps are already gross enough. Ross prob won't say anything resembling an opinion on this whole shitstorm tbh. I fucking knew there was more to their divorce than "she wanted to live in a state with trees". TREES, nigga?
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So like I totally just got nudes from your husband anyway can I send some back????
Totally explaining that she was 100% okay with the nudes sending so long as SHE WAS INVOLVED????
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now all i can think of is all the creepy porny shit the DnD wafflecrew fans draw for Strix (holly's character) and Diath (jared's character)
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These nudes make me want to throw up, how does he have all these girls lusting after him
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Teenage girls will fuck anything if it's popular (or infamous) enough. That's how even an inbred caveman like onion has fangirls.>>803571
So did they have an open marriage or not? What the fuck is going on here.
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Would it be that weird if they found it really kinky and fooled around in their cosplay in the hotel after pax?
If that’s the case then it’s been going way longer than Holly’s been divorced FOR SURE.
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hooooly shit>>803571>Considering that the two of them were both in on it I don't know why Heidi is acting surprised here
said, and also clearly he would have done it with or without Heidi's "permission", if he gaslights her into thinking she's ok with it then he just does whatever the fuck he wants and gives her credit for being a COOL wife, even if she's miserable with the situation
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found this on reddit but i don't spot anything on /v/. there's a comment in this reddit thread saying they're getting purged though
Anons familiar with Onion already are primed for this new drama. We know how far abusive
dudes can pressure their insecure wives to open their marriage and then keep pushing the boundaries bit by bit. People defending this mouth breathing dork can't possibly be anything but fangirls.Never seen poly relatioships that aren't clearly abusive or mutual mental illness so maybe I'm hating too hard but STILL
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it's a video but here's a screenshot
Yea, jannies fucked up and delete every thread.
Check fireden for /v/ threads
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tried. still not seeing a lot, but man 4chan sometimes just makes my day
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PBG still putting his foot in his mouth
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>>803577>So did they have an open marriage or not?
Obviously not, the phrase "open marriage" implies that both parties are in agreement with the terms and boundaries of their relationship which clearly they weren't. Like, if in an open relationship the agreement is "you can kiss other girls but NO farther", and they fuck another girl that's not an open relationship, that's cheating.
Also "open marriage" implies that both parties were engaging – doesn't seem like Heidi was benefitting in any way on her end from the "open-ness" (obviously info could still come out). I mean if the options are "I'm going to sext with other girls, you can either be ok with it or not be ok with it but either way I'm gonna do it" of course the easier option is "well…I guess I have to be ok with it?" even if you're not. It's the same shit from gross dudes everywhere>guilt their gf who has no interest in other people that they're being uptight and controlling by not letting them openly cheat>they can either shut up or leave, won't stop it from happening>you wanna be a cool gf right?>guy fucks around>girl does not engage with others at all, because she had no interest in the first place>completely one sided>it's not cheating, it's totally chill! we're in an open relationship!!>[narrator voice] it was not totally chill
source: been there done that
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holy fuck its trending on twitter
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The search results after just a few hours
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This scumbag is playing stupid and backpedaling even though his buddy's dick has been blasted all over the internet.
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so somebody has come out saying that jared accepted nudes from/sent nudes to them knowing they were underage.https://twitter.com/chaitemporary/status/1126397829210091520
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As someone who's been through a similar relationship I'm honestly so jealous of Heidi like she's living the dream here. Of all the people in the world who get cheated on or abused and have to deal with the repercussions of that the rest of their lives with no closure or vindication….what percentage of them get to publicly destroy the careers of the people that wronged them AND watch the internet collectively point and laugh at their cheating ex's small dick. And not over the course of years, over the course of HOURS.
Obviously it's weird to say she's lucky, but when you go through all of that and the internet doesn't laugh at your cheating ex's small dick….it hurts guys
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FROM /b/ ( I know, but that's not important right now)
>>803466>And Heidi will become Sheena Duquette 2.0, cosplayer continuing to ride the wave of their ex-husband's fame and sympathy
I don't think she will, she's been adamant about building her own brand and not using Jared's status for clout. It's inevitable that the partner of a semi-famous person will get some following by virtue of being with them but she doesn't strike me as the type.>>803493
I think people who received full nudes are not posting them because that would be revenge porn and the last thing they need is no-chin suing them.>>803505
Probably a video of him pounding Holly>>803512
Well I didn't need to see that but that's fairly irrefutable >>803522
What, are you looking for the uncensored version?>>803553
I didn't even know that could happen>>803562
Who needs enemies with friends like these?
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I'm fucking screaming
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Is this legit? I'm not Twitter savvy. I found the tweet in the image that Heidi made but couldn't locate Ross or Holly's.
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Full caps for anyone who's doesn't wanna go on twitter
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that fucking normal boots dating sim (that holly played WITH ross) makes me fucking cringe
Jared told his friends she was abusing him. We don't have any more details but it's common for abusers to make themselves look like the victim
. That's why PBG was defending him until he saw the nudes and backpedalled.
Yeah I didn't even realize Heidi was married to ProJared until much later, I only know her through cosplay stuff which is why I'm here lurking and trying to fully figure out who this Holly character is. I doubt she'll become another Sheena, Heidi tends to be super smug about her craft but she's still a legit cosplayer who actually makes her shit as a standalone brand. >>803627
I'm fucking howling anon >>803642
Because they're whiteknighting Jared and claiming that "He only sent those dick pics to teenagers and fucked a mutual friend to cope with his abusive
wife!!!" with no proof of Heidi being abusive
The difference between a man and a woman's nudes is staggering.
No one WANTS to see the man's nudes and they only get posted to be laughed at.
Yet a woman's nudes are requested so people can beat off.
>>803650>I doubt Heidi will post them
It's not like she likes the girl
If it's worth anything, you made at least one anon laugh at your ex
Kind of makes me sick how many of us have been through the same thing though
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My heart genuinely breaks for Ross. Whether he knew exactly what was happening back then or not, to have to relive it again has to be miserable.
Especially thinking about all the D&D stuff Holly and Jared did together, ugh. Chatting for hours, doing con appearances together, their characters having a relationship? It all feels so skeevy now.
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reddit mod drama can be delicious really
pic from the reddit, didn't see it here yet?
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No one other than that one whiteknight was saying that here, with zero proof. Ignore >>803644
. This drama only started 5 hours ago >>803391
, there's still time to catch up without being spoonfed.
Anyways, here's this for what it's worth. Obviously all the Jared unfollowing could have happened in the last <5 hours, but that just seems unlikely to me since it all seems so coordinated and they all seem to have stayed off twitter in that time, if they really did hide his vids on the GG channel weeks ago….sure seems like someone knew something. Like, it feels like weeks ago they must have had a business meeting and been like "Ok and the last order of business….effective immediately everyone has to unfollow and Jared.
GG not following him, especially Ross, seems pretty indicative.
I feel like we're not even seeing a fraction of the potential backlash, isn't it pretty late in the US right now? Just wait til people start waking up and seeing the damage.
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this also from reddit
it's claimed to be from arin's likes but if he really did like it, he's since unliked it
yeah the fact that they hid all of those videos is already suspicious enough. idk much about the game grumps but if she did cheat on ross I'm surprised they're still following each other. maybe it's just to save face>>803675
they're probably just going to hide from social media for awhile. I'm curious if Jared will make a reply now that the pedo allegations have been revealed.
I am STINGING to see Keem get balls deep in this bullshit. also wanna see Jon comment on it because he's been exiled for so long it'd be straight fascinating
wonder who is going to be the first of the commentary community to tackle this one, shit is coming so thick and fast receipts-wise it's going to be so gloriously milky, nay, creAMY
also anyone else wanna hate fuck keem or is that just me? want to punch his goblin face while I ride that dick to the moon
Not to be that person but Ross had that cosplay guy raykay at his house directly after the fact of his scandal
Ross isn't that clean either but smarter
I'll try <3
also this dropped a couple ago, aye nice to have it in vid form i'm going crosseyed from trying to real all these different sources
Couple of possibilities:
He knew she was cheating but didnt know who with.
Heidi waited till today to drop the bomb.
During his scandal while in the midst of just saying he would talk no more about raping his gf he went over to rosses and streamed with him on his channel. I forget what it was but I think it was skyrim on vr.
Anyways Ross had to have known the drama and ignored it
He's Def not a wholesome bean as everyone wants to picture if he allows scum like that around during a scandal and raykay just had another one where another girl said he raped her just recently.
Heidi said she found the Holly texts in a phone he used until December so she didn't know about the affair back in September when Ross and Holly got divorced >>803698
That's gonna be a yikes from me bro
Kys you newfag
You seem really misguided if you think any anon finds ross to be a "sweet innocent bean" when the only thing that has happened is Holly being a cheater and Ross seemingly having nothing to do with it;
Just post receipts instead of moralfagging we are here to shit on all
of GG, hence why I even wrote "I think" when referencing Barry & Rosses less shitty track records compared to dan,arin,suzy (and now) holly.
(Sage your non milky posts anon)
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r/ProJared is going wild
*doesn't, I typed too fast>>803714
We're not going to get them, only Heidi has them and I don't she would do that
dude… heidi legally
can't do that afaik. unless holly has been as profligate with her pics as jared has, you will have to remain thirsty
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Massive reach, but since Jared is a hot topic rn, did anyone get the feeling he was was warming up to come out as bi or something? That or it was just a whole lotta queerbaiting. >teehee i love yaoi ad infinitum>>803715
No, we don’t, scrote. It was bad enough seeing Jared’s.
anon you get called out because you won't do a simple Ctrl+F on the same page that you currently are at.>>801816
this wasn't even that old
>>803402>Style and Grace
Is this dude really attempting a Donkey Kong meme?>>803556
Holy shit I've been mutuals with Kittie for years, I had no idea she was this close to these guys
The more you refuse to sage the more obvious your butthurt newfagging is. >>803734
One of those replies was me and it feels bad, man. Should've figured the chick with chronic self-esteem issues would fuck someone's husband.>>803743
kek. I want to say not even he is that stupid, but I've been surprised before….
Bitch ain't a "smol bean" anymore, she's obviously devious.
That's the persona she tried to give off and it worked so well up to this poinf, don't let it fool you.
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i'll bite, i used to watch all of these idiot neckbeards religiously for ages. now i just feel bad.
from the normalboots crowd:>projared
i think the realization that he fucked up defending jared will sink in soon enough, and he'll be smart enough to post an apology for his personal behavior and opinions and that'll be that. plus he's anyway above 2M subs so he won't be hit too hard.>jirard
probably going to stay away from commenting on this situation entirely, going by how his stream went last night.>shane
same as jirard tbh, he was quite based when the jon shit went down too>jontron
he's already having a field day with shady gifposting on twitter. pretty sure he isn't going to comment on this at all though, this bridge has burned long ago>furst (the new manager guy)
he doesn't seem smart enough to backtrack on what he's said so far. he might sink with this ship>satchbag
he doesn't even have much of a youtube presence anymore, the only reason i even know he's still alive is i saw him in a normalboots upload some time back. will stay away but it doesn't matter what he says or doesn't say, he's trying for a decent (offline i think) career in indie cinema or something like that.
then the hiddenblock guys:>caddicarus
doesn't associate with these people anymore as far as i'm aware>yungtown
another dude i'm not even sure is still alive, he just streams on twitch now afaik and he wasn't close with jared even way back when. probably won't involve himself in the drama a lot.>spacehamster
does PB&Jeff series with PBG. he might comment on the situation, or some fan might ask him to, but i hope his response isn't PBG-tier bullshit because he usually stays out of drama.>brutalmoose
he's just gone off the deep end doing weird microwave meal reviews and science videos and whatnot. i don't think anyone is holding their breath to hear what he has to say. harmless and does his own thing though.>jimmy whetzel, balrog et al
i have no idea lmao, their youtube 'careers' died long back so i don't think anyone cares. whetzel used to be friends with holly though so idk if there's any milk to be had there, doubt it though.
the plot kinda got away from me lol sorry! anyone else?
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CW: Uncensored version of >>803512
. Haven't seen the original until now, the censored version is the one making it's way around. Only posting for posterity's (and your sick curiosity's) sake.
Yeah Holly can go fuck herself, actually being malicious enough to convince someone that his wife is being ~abusive
~ just to get to fuck him AND avoiding responsibility by a shoddy "y-you shouldn't believe strangers on the internet brb twitter break!!" statement screams nasty bitch.
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The tip of his dick looks like it hurts coming out.
So many people are coming to Heidi with some more stuff, I hope she releases more milk in a few hours. I honestly wonder how Holly's doing with that big of a fuckup.
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Meanwhile, on Youtube
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did anyone catch this? he tried to make his wife sign an NDA to shit up about his cheating????
>>803771>after a year of suppressing
So she may have known about it back when Holly and Ross split? I'm not 100% clear on the timeline but I really feel for Heidi and Ross, this must have been so painful>>803774
Yeah hold up I saw that in passing but it didn't really sink, what the fuck is wrong with this man
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i love that she also let us know she wouldn't have aired any
of this. the creepy fucker shot himself in the foot and i'm creasing.
what an absolute fool. he could've gotten out of this relatively unscathed but instead divorced her on fucking twitter and THEN blocked her. I cannot believe he fucked himself over so badly.
also fuck PBGs condescending "don't you think this is a bad idea?" fucking tool.
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Oh, and some guy on the GG subreddit has future vision apparently
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Reputedly from Heidi's tumblr.
Heidi has said she initially agreed to him sending lewds but drew the line at dick pics, and didn't mind him receiving nudes until he told her he had stopped in late 2017. I also don't doubt that his gaslighting involved telling her it was controlling and abusive
to ask him not to do that.
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Just posting some Tweets which amused me (dickpic already posted upthread but included for context)
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holy fuck i literally just wanted to check on snooze, arin's stalker and grumps drama only to get visually assaulted with proskelly nudes.
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Yo, who the fuck cares about the mental health of this cheating cave troll lookin ass bird freak? I always had a bad gut feeling about her and here we are. She's not gonna get to hide behind some flimsy mental health excuse on this one. Even the profoundly mentally ill have agency and their actions have consequences.
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>>803476> She's a nobody why would you trust her over US, the youtubers who you personally know and love.
kek, sure, pile onto the abuse by dismissing her as a crazy nobody, not like you two didn't shoot videos together of you enjoying whole trips and cons together and act like bffs in the past. sure, holly, she's a nobody.>>803498
Don't hurt yourself with that reach>>803512
Didn't need to see that but bless you for shutting the wks up. It's in his fucking recording room too.>>803546
He was to used to "winning" the manipulation game when it came to mutual friends, he wrongly assumed that he'd "win" with the fans too.
Also to the jared wks: Just because people agree to an open marriage doesn't mean that they can't set rules or have boundaries. If you tell your be you don't want to be hit in bed but later agree to a threesome with your bf does that mean he can start hitting you in bed just because you agreed you a threesome? That makes no sense, heidi agreed to an open marriage but she mentioned that she clearly set certain boundaries. You can call her dumb for agreeing in the first place but you can't say she deserved to have her boundaries violated with stuff she clearly didn't consent to.>>803623
I hope nb gets cancled for protecting this creep.>>803629
bless her for being so ride or die>>803641
jared also played it with heidi>>803688
I remember when she had a falling out with her business partner and ex bff jessica marizan and people sided with holly saying that she didn't personally cheat a cancer patient and that it was all on jess while jess ended up being bullied out of cosplay and I thought it was suspicious because Holly was a capable fabricator on her own and could have made it right if she wanted to (while jess was only an okay fabricator compared to holly and focused mostly on the sewing) so it seemed unfair to shove all the blame on jess, but everyone wanted to go easy on Holly because she leveraged her mental health so much. I am starting to see a pattern here…also wonder where the rough past thing came from because I recall from the CoH era it was jess who had the rough past (druggie family, shitty parents, poor, etc) and holly said she was lucky to not deal with the stuff jess did, I wonder if holly pulled a narc copy cat move and stole her whole backstory.>>803698
yikes, I feel like ross hides behind his cinnamon role persona so he can get away with not caring about how shitty his friends are because "uwu I don't want to publicly drag someone that's too mean!" probs why he posted such lovey dovey messages about his divorce even though he probably knew.>>803724
if he was it wasn't because he was really bi, it's because wanted to lure even more vulnerable teenage girls by pretending to be bi for oppression points/kink points. if he was really bi we would have seen some proof of him soliciting nudes from male identified people by now. He's onision in my eyes now.>>803631
WOW holly is covering her tracks real hard.
Also re: GG deleting/privating/renaming videos with jared, around march of this year I recall seeing some chatter on reddit about this, people were saying that jared had slowed with content in general and had said somewhere that he regretted branding himself with his real name and was going around asking friends to remove/private/remove his name from the title of collab videos for this reason. Can't find it now (maybe jared removed it while he was still mod) but I'm now thinking that it was a coverup for either a.) him doing damage control for people calling him out for soliciting minors b.) him putting all his energy into ruining his marriage.
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>>803743>he might as well diversify his portfolio
dang, a lot of smart/funny anons in this thread (it really shines when there's very little infighting/mini-modding/trolls) I've laughed aloud several times. Active drama in the GG thread not clogged by nonsensical arguing and trolls….feels like the good ole days friends
current sub count for jared's main channel: 996,917
LP channel (admittedly not hit as hard): 301,436>>803823
bless your heart
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Does YouTube take their play button back
Yeah I totally believe him gaslighting Heidi about it. She mentioned in one of the tweets concerning the lewds that it was supposed to be "body positive" for him so I'm pretty sure Jared was guilt tripping her with sob stories about how he's insecure about his body and he needs validation from teenagers, and if she's not allowing it she's being a-a-abusive
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Holly doesn't deserve to be outed as an abuser, manipulator, and cheater but Heidi deserves to shot down for sharing her personal experience with abuse?
You're really showing your colors here, PBG
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I was so ready for so many people to side with Jared after all this finally came out. Glad it played out the way it should have.
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Holly leaving twitter and any accountability or consequences behind
just noticed that pushinguproses isn't following jared on twitter anymore. IDK if she was right before the announcements this morning, but they have been friends for a while and pur mentioned him as recently as three months ago in her last QnA vid on youtube (possible more recently on twitter if someone wants to dig) so it's surprising. Hope she says something about it.>>803839
fans on the internet don't care if their idols are garbage. He's been slacking off in the months before hand so I hope his fanbase has waned enough that he actually has to face consequences in the long run.
he doesn't ever really involved himself in drama. i also…really enjoy his microwave meal reviews, it's kind of wholesome and nice in comparison to game grumps videos where all they do is scream.
have the grumps really ever done much with projared when it comes to gaming videos? they don't follow him on twitter and i know supermega rips on him a couple of times in their podcast. i can't see them really defending him at all.
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This tweet didn't age well. Does anyone else remember in a diff thread (I can't remember if it was a cosplayer thread or youtuber thread so I'm struggling to find it now), jared posted himself in a waffle crew cosplay on twitter and someone asked if holly made it and heidi just replied "I made it" and people were nitpicking her over being terse?
I thought it was a dumb criticism at the time and I still do, but I do wonder if maybe heidi really was biting back some rage.>>803844
honestly I outgrew pro jared before this milk even hit but I love brutal moose and I'd be so sad if he comes out as an abuser (hypothetically speaking)
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(dumping a few of my fav responses I haven't seen posted here yet)
i know lol. honestly his stuff is really weird, but at the same time it's just relaxing that he speaks in a normal tone of voice and pace for 30-40 mins and you can just shut off and let your mind drift. it's soothing.
also i really appreciate that unlike some other people in this thread he despite being gay doesn't make a huge deal of his sexuality like. ever. he just acts as a regular chill guy.>>803849
honestly this woman is brave and badass despite risking herself looking like a bit of a clown lmao. heidi i love you for this blessing of the milk you have provided today
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Holly has shed quite a few close friends over the years in unamicable ways and coincidentally she seems to like changing her whole persona when it happens, as cows like to do. I always wondered how much her shit actions had to do with it. Glad she's getting outed as an abuser so she can't push herself as a mental health advocate anymore.
Also I wonder how much of jared's relatively recent love of birds is a result of fucking holly. Maybe if someone can trace when it started they can figure out when they started banging.
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Holly tweeting to Jared saying she’s here for him if he needs her after the divorce is the biggest social media oopsie of 2019
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at the very least a banner>>803861
Not milk, but some feel good news. Really glad she didn't end up like sharla.>>803865
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i am a dumb ass dropped pic
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I didn't even know Ian was gay, huh. Yeah, I really dig all of his stuff. His old PC game reviews are very sweet, and the humor in his food reviews is quiet and weird and really gets me.
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Additional proposal (I'd post the vid but I think the thumbnail is the best part). If the thread maxes out the next one should probably be more "GG General" and less "Sooz and also GG">>803871
Vid if anyone wants, nothing too interesting from skimming it. Gotta say though – I always thought Holly was cute in a mpdg/so quirkie!!
kinda way, but Heidi looks like a certified babe next to her in this vid tbh
GG+Normalboots is good. these guys don't seem to be paragons of virtue to me anymore. there might be more milk incoming, they have added a chick to their roster recently (Tamashii hiroka someone who i've never seen before their videos) and seem adamant to not even let her speak in the vids. they legit just talk over her so i don't know what the point is to even have her there.
anyway, point is, more milk might be flowing from the NB side so good to keep them in the thread topic. good thinking anon!
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>Heidi helped them make their cosplays of their DND characters back in 2016.
> Asagao academy (the dating sim) main protagonist was a Holly Conrad look alike
> traveled together for wafflecrew shenanigans sometimes just the two of them represented the group in the exhibitor halls at cons.
> Holly planned to move near Jared before her divorce became public
> Caught being too friendly at Pax (West???) this year
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This has made it's way to the waffle crew community, I hope it kills it because they really let it get to their heads since WotC got involved.
Let's Players is waaaay too broad imo. GG + Normal Boots could work, though I think GG General is fine as well, the implication being that anything related to them (Normal Boots, Jared/Holly/Heidi, Jon, Suzy, Katie, etc) is allowed.
I think a "Let's Players General" outside of this would be fine too, I just think GG now has too much milk for that
not only that, holly and heidi were shopping for materials together when heidi picked up stuff for the diath cosplay. check >>803647
i don't envy all the peace heidi is going to lose (or has already lost) making connections like this
Actually it probably was pax west or pax unplugged. Right after Holly’s divorce last year.
Wouldn’t be too much of a stretch
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Some PAX posts.
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Holly posted this pic in January when they were at a con together. In hindsight, this kinky hotel stuff was wild.
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Obviously none of its verifiable but
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New testimony inbound
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Was gonna say, the only interesting thing from >>803879
>>803875 vid was Heidi saying >I'm really tired, I'm completely wiped out from staying up and making Jared's costume all week
…so he could cosplay with Holly. I've only ever followed Heidi for her cosplay work (much higher quality than the norm, whatever personality aside) but that statement made me so sad for her. Doesn't seem like she even cosplayed at the event?>>803892
no, fuck off
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website please let me post
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>>803896>Holly is obsessed with birds>Projared has a giant beak of a nose
I'm staring to understand how this happened
Didn't projared go on some disney channel tween show a few years back? This puts why he decided to go for it into a new perspective>>803912
someone save her pigeons, they're next at this rate
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Holly announced she was going to be at Pax Unplugged (right after the divorce with Ross and the move) VERY last minute.
The story writes itself.
What a pathetic piece of shit. Trying to honestly backpedal out of this and play the victim
card. Holly comes across as a narcissist just like Jared, "I'll be there for you" is a great line they use when they're in the wrong but deny it so hard that they turn into some sort of comforting messiah. It's just fucked.
She sounds like such a cuck lmao
~i let my husband solicit nudes bcuz it's body positive uwu~
He did fuck her up in the head so anything he did that isn't deemed normal in a relationship she just thought was a "joke" or perfectly okay. When you're that deep in a toxic
relationship you do and think some crazy shit.
It's hard to say no when he was basically already doing it.
"Don't you wanna be a cool couple? Don't freak out and make everything think you're a bitch"
You trick yourself into thinking it's okay when it isn't
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Fuck you Jared
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PBG is going to a deleting spree so here is a cap of his tweets right now (might have missed a few b/c too slow).
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Lmao idiot should have kept HIS mouth shut like everyone else
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if PBG was smart he'd fucking stop
He's making himself look bad too kek
This. I posted >>785909
assuming Holly & Ross got a divorce because how gross the gamgrumps fandom is, I feel awful assuming she was some innocent person in all of that.
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this is why I'm surprised the majority of people aren't defending her right now.
Holly was the "Grump fandom's little precious bean who can do no wrong"
Out of everyone she could cheat with I'm surprised it was Jared and NOT Jon. Then again wasn't Jon's GF at the time crazy "controlling" or something?? Maybe Holly was trying to get in his pants?
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for all of jon's yikes opinions on race and politics he is definitely the more handsome and charming man of the two, without a doubt. Why on earth would she cheat with a fuckin bob's burgers lookin' guy
This happens to women constantly. "Crazy ex girlfriend" trope.
Woman are abused, gaslit, and feel like they're going crazy. They are put into a state of disorientation and it sounds like people most likely knew what was going on and lied to her face constantly. She may have lashed out, and is lashing out, but shit like this is so dismissive and I would hate to be in her position because even people without followings are often dismissed as crazy or abusive
for finally breaking as the truth of their situation comes to light.
Heidi may be messy with this situation, but to say there's no proof about her claims then say she's certainly abusive
and crazy is bullshit.
lol, even if they weren't best friends the initial tweet is still dumb. she didn't get played she knew jared was married and fucked him anyways, he used to have it in his profile and mentioned heidi all the time, used to always raid her stream and heidi would introduce herself as his wife when people asked, plus there are many documented instances of them meeting and hanging out going back years.
being someone's best friend and fucking their husband is pretty bad, but just knowing and doing it anyways is bad enough in itself and holly definitely knew. in no version of this story is holly the one who got played.
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Can we talk more about how gross Asagao Academy is in hindsight now?
PBG's WIFE Danielle Hargrave(@unicornism) helped make it And the rest of the main Ilustseed team, Nikki (@pterrify) has called youtubers "scum" and Cara Hillstock (@Cheratom) has liked all of Holly's tweets about the issue and various others supporting her and Jared.
Can we also talk about main girl who is a shy sweet bean and Mai the redhead who is outgoing and has a crush on JARED.
Jared in the game is excessively flirty and a model. He's the school hearthrob and sells pics of himself. HMMMMMMM
Heidi is a natural redhead and so is Mai
At the time of the game, Holly's hair was pink and so is Hana's
Jesus, el chupacabra…
The memes are dropping on twitter. I'm scrolling through all the threads to have a hearty kek. https://twitter.com/wespooky/status/1126424624697417728
This seems like a reach. yes you can date jared but the "default" love interest is PBG. I don't think hana and mai are in any way related to holly and heidi, it's even mentioned in game that their character tropes are just "main character" and "friend character", and that's why hana has pink hair. Dissapointed that Cara is supporting the abusers in this case, I don't follow unicornism much but Cara seemed like a compassionate person until now. Hope she's not chasing jared's clout.
The characterization of jared is now hilarious in hind sight though.
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we truly live in the best timeline lol
It may seem like it, but after Holly and Heidi's popularity skyrocketed I think maybe they decided to model the characters after them, after all, the game isn't affiliated with Normalboots, so it was some clout chasing BS.
After Heroes of Cosplay, Holly's popularity in the cosplay and gaming scene rose, and people flocked to her cause she was cute and relatable.
Makes scene to me to base something on someone rising like that, especially since they were married to a game grump team member (since GG was also staring its big boom) but it's all speculation.
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oney's response if anyone cares
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awwww pwoor projared ):
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Speaking of that game, this was the title of one of the parts before he changed it.
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Certified Twitter Moment
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>on and off meds
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She's gone private lmao
Bummed that Cara supports jared considering that she has spoken openly about abuse she suffered at the hands of her ex best friend, and about how it's damaging to not allow victims
speak publicaly about their experiences. Yet here she is, liking tweets that dismiss heidi and tell people to ignore her.
Trash witch is right
And I used to think she was the most likeable of the crew. I guess her and the gg friend group really are all insane.
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if someone got access to her nudes and spilled them over the internet yeah tots pigeon wouldn't be around the next day, i have no faith in her stability
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ah yes totally the action of an innocent person lmao
she could just block or unfollow people who mention her in tweets or whatever, but going private is big guilt sign
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This makes me cringe so hard I am dissolving.
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Not saging as I’m bringing further milk
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VERSATILE?!?!? Holy shit
so far we have
- deleted cosplay fb
- privated twitter
- private IG
- disabled comments on youtube..
so shes guilty.
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Yall are buying into her mental health persona bit much. She's had other personas, this "caring nurturing anxious mental advocate" persona is just one of many, and she's been riding it for brownie points, but that doesn't mean it's her.
Unrelated question but why did this even get so big? I've been following jared and related youtubers for a while, but I'm surprised it got big enough to be trending on twitter and is talked about by so many people who are much more famous, see pic.
following holly on insta and she's removed comments on her most recent post
basically they were wks and people telling her how disappointed they are in her
It's because Ross is very entangled in the twitter art community. By association, people followed Holly.
Because Heidi cosplays, anime reviewers follow her.
Everything is kinda interwoven.
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Tinfoil hat about Holly: She's clearly been riding the mental health bandwagon for ass pats while simultaneously acting like a completely different person in her personal life. What if her declaring herself to be asexual is another case of her lying online, not only for internet praise, but also to subtly gaslight Heidi if Heidi was already suspicious/had already found out but was trying to work on her marriage/was being misled by Jared into believing that it was over?
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not a new tweet but basically confirms that he tried first to block everyone mutual that could drag him before he made his statement, the dude basically dug his own grave
honestly the best response. it's basically a "not my problem now".
In a way he dodged a bullet, but damn, they spent years together and looked so good, I actually thought they were the good couple
God now I wonder if Kati actually knew something and badmouthed Holly back then and that's why she got kicked out of the house. You'd have to say some pretty big stuff to warrant being pushed off rather than have a conversation about it like "hey what you did was uncool" considering Kati lived in Holly's and Ross' house
Good for him. He shouldn't be expected to speak on this.
That being said,>thanks for the kind words
definitely sounds like he acknowledge he got out of a relationship with a cheater. may not 100% confirm it but, this makes Holly look guilty.
I agree he has no obligation to speak on the matter, but if your theory is true and he knew but didn't tell Heidi then I think he's cowardly.
We'll never know though because I doubt he'll ever talk about it again.
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Deleted off the Normal Boots channel list.
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He's been removed from the normalboots website guys, dude is so fired
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>>804062>but if your theory is true and he knew but didn't tell Heidi then I think he's cowardly.
for all we know he might have just known she was sending nudes to someone and didn't figure out it was Projared or maybe she cheated on him with other people before she got with Projared.
Either way, it's safe to assume she probably was the cause for the divorce and not the bird excuse she made up for it. But I agree, if he knew he should have told Heidi.
Jared might have removed himself/asked to be removed while he tried to wait things out.
If they did decide to kick him, then that's a good step 0 but they really gotta up their game and actually address it. And not in a "this is a mutual, positive thing and we wish each other the best!" kind of way, like they did with Jon. Furst and PBG were not only defending Jared but implying that Heidi was crazy, abusive
, and spiteful. They were implicit in the abuse against Heidi. They were also implicit in trying to cover up Jared's abuse of power towards fans too, in blowing off the email from an underage fan and also trying to suppress Heidi from talking about what he did. Letting him leave quietly at this point is not enough.
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Ross and Holly are still following each other so I don't know what to believe. I don't know if he's being diplomatic and isn't getting involved at all, or what.
Somewhere in the thread there was a screenshot of the email between a fan and the normalboots manager, well seems there was a second email later where they basically deleted the images because it's inappropriate. Way to deal with your problems, guys, sweep them under the rug
Also Holly liked ForrestFurst's tweet at ProJared saying "Love you, bud" which was a reply to jared's divorce statement
I agree, in the hypothetical situation where he knew all the detail, it's still a lot to ask of him, especially considering that Holly also has a big following and could paint him as the abusive
villain as revenge.
But I don't feel that Ross is the sweet little innocent bean some people make him out to be. He doesn't care if the guest on his stream has been accused of raping multiple women/has openly discussed raping women, and in the hypothetical scenario where he knew all about what was going down, he didn't care that Holly and Jared were abusing Heidi.
I can respect that he's smart enough to be a private person and keep all that off twitter, it just annoys me that people assume that means he's a good person. He's not someone you want as a friend because he's going to look the other way when something bad happens to you if it means avoiding "drama".
it's more likely that Heidi and Ross found out around the same time and that Heidi and Jared have been in discussion about all of this for over a year, possibly even trying to save their marriage.
Who knows how long they may have known before coming out about all this.
Just remember that Steam Train stopped near the end of 2015 when she started to involve herself with Jared and Wafflecrew started less than a year later in February 2016.
Ross hasn't been active on much Game Grumps things since then, and after the official talk of their divorce she stopped making youtube content.
This thing runs at least 3 years deep.
To be fair, not all the creators may have been aware of the content of administrative emails, and administration might not have said anything to them because they suck at their job and want to cover it up.
They still have an obligation to openly address it though, but I'm willing to give them some time to do so. At least Caddy was subtweeting against Jared. PBG jut wants to dig his own grave though.
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this comment is so accurate.
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just to be thorough with these receipts
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I hope Holly and Jared get married after this all settles down and they ruin each other.
Nah she's a narc. That's exactly what she wants people to think that she's the "victim
" of all of this because of her mental health problems. Wasn't thinking of Heidi's mental health when fucking her POS husband so she can do one.
She wasn't just fucking Heidi's husband but was also actively campaigning to smear her reputation among mutual friends and persuading them to turn against her while also pretending to be one of her closest friends. The mental health talk is just talk, she's not the vulnerable one here she just likes to play the victim
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I have my doubts as well.
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sage bc just posting memes
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Honestly people shipping their characters that are clearly self-inserts probably didn't help too.
Sounds like they possibly got turned on by that.
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Does anyone have the full exchange between pbj and heidi? Heidi still has her tweets up but he deleted all his.
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the mods on the ProJared subreddit demodded him so he can’t delete anything LOL
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He definitely said more, you can tell because Heidi's side of the conversation is still up but the tweets she responded too were deleted. There's one more tweet (where she says slander only applies to false statements) that I couldn't fit in the pic.
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I want to see the texts.
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Some girl named Charlie, friend of the person who claimed she was 16 when Jared started sending dick picks to her, started dumping a load of screenshots of conversations she had with him in this twitter thread.https://twitter.com/swampborzoi/status/1126516324581007360
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