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No. 866222

ProJared/Holly Conrad/DCA/GG: “The Wife Strikes Back" Edition

Last Time on “The Ballad of PedoJared and his sidekick, Hoelly”

>Jared’s new Incel/MRA fanbase prove once and for all that they’re all Jared, 19, never learned how to fucking read - and continue to harass Heidi after their lord and savior asked them NOT to do that

>Sara the Therapist proved that you can, in fact, be dumber than a box of rocks

>said texts confirm that Ross may have been okay with Holly sleeping with another woman, but that she had NO IDEA if he’d be okay with her and another man, let alone his friend

>texts confirm that Holly and Jared were pursuing the idea of a relationship before they even brought the idea up to Ross, blowing the “Ross knows!” theory out of the water

>Jared Stans insist this could have been avoided if Heidi hadn’t “forced” Jared to stay in the marriage

>Holly begins marketing a clothing line full of terms from the drama, including “Cancelled”

>She one-ups the stupidity by marketing it, using Jared as “the man of mystery”

>Everyone loses their shit about it - Trash Coven gets MAJOR blowback

>Heidi livestreams things from her point of view, with it being hosted on Jared’s twitch (though this is likely an accident rather than a purposeful move)

>livestream mentions that Jared & Holly's affair began as a real life DnD roleplay, to the point of them commissioning NSFW art of Diath/Strix and wanting to sleep with each other while in costume

> also mentions possibility that there is potentially a secret DCA account that is used to commission NSFW art of the various characters

Image Credit: >>865914
Thread Credit: >>866197

Previous Threads (The ProJared Saga Begins):
1: >>785476
2: >>804540
3: >>808888
4: >>812124
5: >>816967
6: >>820703
7: >>826388
8: >>829410
9: >>836081
10: >>841369
11: >>852741
12. >>861615

Character Descriptions and Stats:

Jared "the Wormdick" Knabenbauer
>Known for having a gaming youtube channel where he reviewed games
>Formed "Waffle crew", the D&D group that would soon turn out to be a dumpster fire
>All hell broke lose when his ex-wife revealed he has been manipulating, abusing and cheating on her
>Soon after, other victims of his started leaking chat logs and nudes
>Turns out he was soliciting underage porn
>Went into hiding
>Throughout DCA, his D&D character, Diath, was having an on-going romance with Strix, his co-player Holly Conrad's character
>Turns out they were also involved IRL, cheating on their spouses
>Holly is currently whiteknighting him on twitter, while he is trying to manipulate his side-pieces from the shadows
>One of his side-pieces fell for it and now is changing her initial statement, trying to get on his good side (even though he ghosted her before)
>Heidi accuses Jared of threatening legal action if she speaks up. Unfortunately Heidi casts “Absorb Elements” just like she did for his initial divorce statement. Jared takes an extra 1d6 damage on her next melee attack.

Strength: 5
Dexterity: 5
Intellect: 15
Stamina: 10
Luck: none
Charisma: send noOds

Holly "Manic Pixie Butterface" Conrad (current power-level):
>Got into D&D, started thinking she's literally Strix - her character
>Cheated on Ross with Jared the Wormdick while trying to manipulate both Jared and his wife
>Once Heidi (Jared's wife) revealed her as a side hoe, she locked down everything and checked into the tumblr hospital
>After getting back on the net, she started autistically defending herself and Jared, claiming she never cheated and Heidi is literally Hitler
>Professional victim, her NPD can be seen from space
>Emotionally abused Ross, claimed she never felt love until she met Jared
>Claims to have not cheated on her ex-husband despite his refusal to make one comment about the situation in her defense
>Can't stand even tiny criticism about herself, reads her lolcow thread though
>Compared Etika’s suicide, a popular black YouTuber, to her own suicidal ideation by showcasing they both received clown emojis as “bullying.”
>Suffers backlash from the black community, Etika’s fans and Twitter
>After being called out for taking advantage of a person’s suicide, Holly infamously deflects criticism by tweeting, “I’m sorry. I’m mentally ill.”

Strength: uwu
Dexterity: uwu
Intellect: 4
Stamina: 100
Luck: ran out
Charisma: clown emoji

Holly Conrad’s Previous Stats:
>Holly is a “talented cosplayer/craftsman/special effects artist and well respected in the community”, even appearing on Syfy's "Heroes of Cosplay"
>Was one of the main focuses of the 2011 Documentary "Comic-Con Episode IV: A Fan's Hope" (directed by Morgan Spurlock)
>Originally gained notoriety for her Commander Shepard/FemShep cosplay
>Married to Ross O'Donovan, beloved animator and member of the GG Family, from 2012 to 2018
>When it came to Arin/Suzy vs Ross/Holly most people preferred Ross and Holly, because they felt less fake and Holly was famous separate of Ross, not riding her husband's coattails like Suzy.
>Was best buds with Jared's wife Heidi, another talented and respected cosplayer/craftsman
>Apparent tragic backstory = quirky anxiety uwu. I don't really know the whole backstory on this one, not sure if it really matters.
>But was apparently close to her grandfather and inherited his house(?) in Washington(?) when he passed away which was in theory part of the reason she and Ross amicably split. Jared and Heidi just also happened to live in Washington.
>Other speculated factors included Holly being asexual (lmao), the toxic GG fan-community, "having codependency issues", and wanting to leave LA while Ross wanted to stay
>Publicly their divorce was mutual, amicable, and came as somewhat of a shock….OR WAS IT?
>Basically all this drama is so juicy because Holly "quirky manic pixie dream bird gurl, asexual anxiety, luvs animals so obviously wouldn't hurt anyone uwu" Conrad was the surprise plot twist villain we never saw coming

For More On Holly Conrad:
>A History of Holly: >>838840 (Source: PULL)

Strength: uwu
Dexterity: 20
Intellect: 17
Stamina: 22
Luck: 100
Charisma: Not Suzy

Heidi of the House O'Ferrall, Hell Hath No Fury, Giver of Zero Fucks, Destroyer of Careers
>Non-lewd cosplayer, talented craftsman and elf
>Produces tutorials and shows her work in progress pretty in depth
>Has a degree in Theatre/Costume Design
>"She had sex with my husband", top 10 anime deaths of all time
>Married to Jared Pedodick Knobslob
>Was in a poly relationship with Jared
>Claims Holly was the reason it didn’t work out
>Outed Jared’s infidelity and set twitter ablaze
>Working on her current divorce and perhaps a defamation against Holly Conrad for trying to claim she had BPD and that psychologists have deemed her “unfixable”
>Has started to become more vocal on that drama since Holly’s Etika sperg
>Claims emotional abuse by Jared and gas lighting, and also seems to insinuate her enjoyment of sex has decreased
>Blocks overtly sexual cosplays because of the ProJared controversy
>Currently living alone in a new home and trying to start up her business and craft in a way to support herself
>Accuses Holly of being vindictive enough to have done everything in her power to end her marriage and happiness

Strength: 90
Dexterity: 71
Intellect: 82
Stamina: 64
Luck: 20
Charisma: Zinfandel

Dan Pirro from the Honorable House Pigeon
>Dedicated white knight of Jared and Holly’s that created a campaign to prove #heidingthetruth
>In direct contact with Holly Conrad Flying Monkey

Jessica Slater from the Honorable House Pigeon
>Holly stan and dedicated “sister”
>Runs a clearly objective truth blog on tumblr while putting down Heidi on twitter

Participation Trophies go to the following for their dedication:
>BorkScorpion, RainbowTressym, TigerNightmare, UnicornHoodlum and others
>May or may not be sockpuppet accounts
>Tier 3 WKs, to be mostly ignored
>Autism awareness is sometimes being aware of who to avoid

>Jared Knabenbauer/ProJared:


>Heidi O'Ferrall/AtelierHeidi:


>Holly Conrad/Commander Holly:


>Normal Boots:


The Expanded Universe:

**Game Grumps
Previous GG Threads:**
>Jon vs Dan speculations, are the Suzy nudes real or fake, blah blah blah, old news. Seriously, don't ask to be spoonfed this old dried up milk. Go read about it on your own.
>There is a whole subreddit dedicated to GG Rule 34 where they sexualize the girlfriends/wives as well as the grumps called r/polygrumps. Suzy once long ago tweeted in support of polygrumps, but it seems like an especially toxic corner of their already toxic fanbase. I doubt she would confirm that support today.
>GG sells a merch line called Game Gyaru "based on Arin and Danny, reimagined as female characters inspired by the anime series Dirty Pair, named Arina and Daniella respectively". It's a blatant tracing of the characters from "Dirty Pair" that they did not initially acknowledge.
>GG release body pillows of Dan and Arin. They sell out very quickly. It's gross: >>792883
>Guess what Jon's an even worse blatantly sexist/racist person than we ever could have imagined

Suzy "the Goose" Berhow:
>Has a history of scamming fans by buying cheap jewelry from China and the likes and reselling it to fans with an absurd markup as her jewelry line or as one anon put it: "creating a really expensive jewelry line that involved very little effort on her part". Arin has to come to her defense when people find out.
>Previous threads over the years were mostly about Suzy's "thyroid-related" weight gain and absurd styling choices, scamming, and how she's a ~rEaL gAmEr GuRl~
>No one seems to really have complaints about her current styling choices since she lost weight and the skunk stripe and adopted a more natural look (it's much closer to her twin sister Jean's)
>Suzy was a "model" when younger, and will still constantly repost the same pictures from her past over and over again, in case anyone forgot
>There sometimes seemed to be some unspoken tension between Suzy and Holly. Suzy seemed to give off the vibe of being uncomfortable not being the only cool gamer gurl in the GG group, especially when up against a girl that seemed to prefer and respect.
>Seems plausible that she prefers being the female center of attention given the theory that JonTron's swift and dramatic departure from GG was due in part to some beef between Suzy and Jon's girlfriend at the time. IIRC this is still all just speculation. (Jon's too big of a topic, read that one on your own for the full backstory)
>A/N: I would be kind of surprised if she showed any support for Holly at all, but maybe that's just me

Katie (Most recent GG drama unrelated to PigeonGate 2019 ):
>Suzy claims she and Arin have been together since 2002. Arin's mysterious deviantART ex Katie shows up from an apparent cryogenic sleep after 10+ years and throws an insane hissy-fit about how Arin was pursuing HER during that time and she turned HIM down.
>Thinks Suzy poisoned Arin against being her BEST FRIEND despite the fact that she was married, disappeared from the internet, lived across the country, and was definitely leading Arin on for some time. Arin seems to have bought her some gifts in this time.

Game Grumps:

>Suzy Berhow/Mortemer:


>Arin Hanson/Egoraptor:


>Dan Avidan:


>Minor cow Katie, rejected Arin way back when and regrets it now that he's famous:


About Dice, Camera, Action:
>DCA is/was a popular D&D livestream DM'd by Chris Perkins (WoTC story designer)
>It's cast consisted of Holly Conrad, Jared Knabenbauer, Nathan Sharp and Anna Prosser
>All of them turned out to be cheaters, hooking up with each other and breaking marriages/engagements

>Wafflecrew/Dice, Camera, Action:


Filed Under “Other”:

Ross O’Donovan
Do Not Bother Ross O’Donovan
>Game Grump and animator
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>Ross O'Donovan/RubberNinja:

Reminder from Mods:
>Subjects have to be 16+ to be discussed on lolcow. Do not include Holly's 15 year old friend’s face or social media posts here.
>This is also a reminder that cowtipping is also against the rules, do not contact the girl or her parents because of her relation to Holly.
>Keep whiteknight posting to when they actually spill milk.

No. 866231

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>It's like some split personality bullshit where she IS Strix and Strix IS Holly.

Well this is what she put on her official website as a profile picture…

She deleted the whole website for some reason.

No. 866249


Whatever therapist she has is failing her miserably because NO mental health pro is gonna let their client have full blown delusions about "But…but.. strix is a trash witch….therefor I am also a trash witch!" like homewrecker has on the regular

No. 866260

She now reminds me of this article from 2007 where some guy really believed he was his Maplestory character.

No. 866262


not only that but her entire behavior changes too. She used to be the asexual, pastel queen that doesn't swear and doesn't really discuss saucy topics and is uwu pure, when she had the pink hair and was with Ross, and was cutesy and was a cute birb lady.

now she's sassy, ~calls people out, makes shitty merch shading situations, is clearly thinking with her horny lizard brain especially with commissioning NSFW artwork, etc. Like her entire self just changes on a whim, but it's nice to know she's still a shallow insecure manipulative bitch, no matter what character skin she's got equipped lol.

No. 866268

Probably came from all the validation she got from playing Strix and getting stanned hard.

No. 866280

I guess I just don't get it. If they wanted to play out this epic love story, couldn't they just have done it on The Sims or something, instead of ruining BOTH of their marriages and causing irreparable harm to their careers?

Ain't no dick or pussy worth ruining your life over.

No. 866283


Or, I don't know, end their relationships like fucking adults? Catching feels happens, especially if you connect with your characters for whatever reason. But like, get a divorce because things changed and move on with life.

If they'd just have gone about things like adults, there might have been some side-eye about it but that's it. It was their cheating and refusal of responsibility that ruined their lives. (And also Jared's other indiscretions, but not the point I'm making here.)

No. 866296

I like how knowing that people give Heidi moral support apparently drives Jared & Holly's fanbase up the wall.

No. 866299


It's because the Jared Stans view things as very black and white - You either believe Jared or you believe Heidi, never a little of both.. You can't say "I disagree with how Heidi handled it initially, but I support her doing what she needs to move on" because to them, that's taking attention away from jared and as good as you saying that you hate him.

It's honestly some bullshit playground "me or them" mentality.

No. 866300

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You don't have to "assert your dominance" over the world's worst font. You could always just….not use it.

(tinfoil but do you think they're bringing up the font because holly/kayla follow this thread and we just mentioned it yesterday?)

No. 866301

Also, there's four replies to that post and they're all negative.

Maybe Hoelly will eventually get the hint that nobody wants to buy shitty, overpriced clothes from someone who is a cheater that supports a dude who jacked it to nudes he got from minors.

No. 866309

Their justification for this crap is probably "If they can do it, then I can too! D:< "

No. 866311


It's so fucking stupid too. If you say anything against Jared on PJ2, even in a respectful way, you are attacked or they automatically go "WHAT ABOUT HEIDI???" Not every criticism of Jared is an endorsement of Heidi.

No. 866312


There's literally stans spewing the "Well….Jared has PROOF of Heidi being emotionally abusive! She doesn't have proof of him doing it therefor it didn't happen!"

Like, they simply don't understand that you typically CAN'T proof emotional abuse - or that a good chunk of the time, you won't even know it was emotional abuse until later on, so you wouldn't have thought to record it in any way.

No. 866316

I wonder if anyone is going to drag Holly's clothing brand for ableist now? Comic Sans is supposed to be a dyslexia-friendly font and here she is dragging it as "cursed" on Twitter.

No. 866317


Most of them can't fathom the idea that Jared and Heidi were literally legally bonded through marriage and together for eight years. They think the LARPing Holly and Jared did for a year while they were both married somehow means more.

Most of the abuse that went on can't be proven. It happened behind closed doors and in person. I don't know why these idiots can't process they lived together and most important talks between them would happen face to face.

No. 866320

Jared's apparently going to stream tonight, but judging by some of the shitty responses to his "what should I play?" post, I don't know if it'll actually happen or not - I refuse to give him my views.

Anyone here that can verify the chat in his streams is typically dead?

No. 866326

No he's streaming right now and his chat is pretty active

No. 866330

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Holly really does need help.

This bit here >>863779 where she describes turning off her empathy as a result of trauma, falls under the criteria of a few disorders. I'm avoiding arm-chairing, I just find it interesting that her own statements about herself damn her. Especially since she doesn't seem aware or concerned with finding healthier coping mechanisms and achieving growth.

It's like she's just accepted and even excused herself from mistakes she makes and doesn't care to try to avoid making the same ones in the future. Wouldn't a therapist give her tools to improve her coping skills? It seems like her only goals are shielding herself from critiques (even helpful ones) and personal fulfillment. The second thing isn't a bad thing in itself but she doesn't seem to care about the cost of any of her choice and how they impact others.

People with these qualities are a threat to society and a threat to themselves, at least emotionally. Which is even more alarming when she tries to act as a role model for others with mental illness. Seems like a recipe for disaster. From what I gather, her mental health Mondays are like having group therapy but with no professional to lead. Very ill advised.

Look at her lack of empathy about Etika's suicide. She seems to have given not 1 single shit over the man himself, she just saw his death as a vehicle for gaining sympathy. It was emotionally opportunistic.

If Jared thinks Heidi was bad, he better prepare himself for the mental dumpsterfire that is Holly Conrad.

No. 866331


Archive copy of Heidi's stream.

No. 866338


> "Wouldn't a therapist give her tools to improve her coping skills?"

Yep. After figuring out what the problem is, that's the first thing a therapist does - give you tools to cope with and potentially even FIX the problem entirely.

> "Look at her lack of empathy about Etika's suicide."

I'm still VERY surprised that she didn't bring it back up when MatPat started trending for that same thing recently.

No. 866340

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holly's back at it again with her "social media self-harming" but this time she's following people who openly (and popularly) called her out on her nonsense

No. 866341

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here's the initial tweet this person made about holly

No. 866342


She's fucking ridiculous. Someone needs to take her internet access away pronto.

No. 866344

If Jared can sway his critics by saying some kind personal words surely Holly can sway the hearts of her adversaries by gracing them with her follows /s

No. 866346


"But I followed you! What do you mean you haven't forgiven me?" -holly, probably

No. 866374

Probably preparing a list of people for Jared to 'reach out' to…

No. 866392

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Maybe it's just me but this comes across as very, very nefarious. Just the passive aggressiveness of someone you openly criticize following you seems very.. targeted? Murdery? "have their eyes on me"?

She reminds me of the horribly slow murderer with the extremely inefficient weapon aka the spoon killer, she just follows you eternally, slowly killing you with her mental trauma spoon

No. 866398

I think she's just leaving little 'hints' for her stans;
"This is the post, right here!"

No. 866406


Like Jared's "Don't harass Heidi" even though he damn well knows after being online for 20 years that asking your fanbase to not do something (especially when they're deprived shits) just encourages them.

No. 866414

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She's not the only one either.

No. 866415

That would be quite a reach when she's done far worse ableism-wise, like saying Heidi had BPD and was unfixable or supporting Jared who said Chai should not be taken seriously because he had a traumatic brain injury so he has to be lying

No. 866416

I asked in the last thread but didn't get an answer, does anyone have a clip or timestamp of Jared's stream right after his video where he admits to jacking it to Charlie's pics?

No. 866428


Just watch the stream yourself and figure it out, if you want to know that bad

No. 866429

It's 5 and a half fucking hours, I'd appreciate some help

No. 866431

As far as I can tell there isn't one, tinfoil but I feel like someone from pj2 might have posted that here to see who talks about it elsewhere/find farmer's personal accounts. I went through almost the whole stream for it last night and never found it.

No. 866440

Y'know out of all this, I do have give respect to the Game Grumps. Even after Jared pitifully tried to call them out for "bullying him", they still kept his videos deleted off of their channel and refused to answer back to Jared being pathetic.

Whether it's out of respect for Ross, purely a business decision, or both, I do have to give them kudos for sticking to their decision.

No. 866450


In the roughly five hours since you posted your first message to when you posted this, you could have easily gone through the stream yourself. The farmers here aren't going to do your legwork for you.


If any farmers are really dumb enough to leave behind evidence that can link to their personal accounts, that's on them. The whole point of us all talking as Anons here is to keep that from happening.


That's because, for the most part, the GG are presenting a united front. Jared only goes after those who seem to be speaking as one person because you can easily threaten one person with a lawsuit for hurting his 'uwu feefees'. It's a lot harder to convince a judge that it's an entire group of people unfairly criticizing you.

No. 866454

Jared's whining about being bullied by the Grumps is so weak too. They were referring to a couple related to a song they are constantly singing in their videos. Just because the wife's name is Heidi doesn't mean they were indirectly targeting him.

No. 866461

The grumps' actions only make the BOOHOO POOR JARED AND HOLLY ARE THE REAL VICTIMS narrative more obviously false. They know everyone involved, especially the guy who's been quietest about the whole shitshow. They presumably have the most complete picture of what happened, and they're siding against Jared. Telling.

No. 866488

Same can be said of SuperMega.
They teased Jared a lot during all this and even mentioned he contacted them and got their videos demonitized.
The only person close to Ross that flipped on this was Jirard and that shows where his loyalty lies.

No. 866493

Wow, Jared's a petty asshole.

Also yeah, never thought Jirard was that much of a coward. Kind of explains his old beef with Greg to me now, tbh.

No. 866523

do you know which episodes they talk about jared?

No. 866529

it was an anon post here that started it: >>860477
>Am I going insane or did Jared openly admit to jerking off to child pornography in his video? And people are just cool with that? Like regardless of whatever bullshit excuse, he confirmed that he received multiple nude photos of a minor and that’s somehow not where the discussion ends.

here is the transcript of the stream: https://pastebin.com/igQj4EgY

iirc he doesn't say outright that he jacked it to the photos, it was just an anon incredulous that no one seemed to care that he
a. apparently used the photos from his blog as fap material (not sure the direct source on this, might have been before the stream)
b. admitted to receiving underage photos of fans, but that "it wasn't his fault" because he asked first.

So no, I don't think he actually said the words verbatim, but it's not hard to put two and two together.

No. 866530

lmao where did they claim this?

No. 866531

Supermega is really close with Ross and used to edit for Holly too. It’s probably not a coincidence that none of GG, despite knowing her for years, came to her defense. I wouldn’t be surprised if GG privated all their videos with Jared once they were tipped off that he backstabbed Ross.

No. 866533

They hurt Jared’s fee fees by using the Projared logo in their food ranking video, playing his intro during a podcast episode, and doing this skit

No. 866538

I was actually referring to the recap in the OP of the previous thread >>861615 which says
>Jared gains $6000 in a twitch stream where he admits to jacking off to Charlie’s nudes, but it’s okay apparently because he THOUGHT they were legal
and I don't know where that came from exactly

No. 866539

>even mentioned he contacted them and got their videos demonitized

That's… that's fucking with someone's money. If provable, that's beyond shitty and also ILLEGAL. They could file for damages.

No. 866540

That's the thing.
Everyone close to Ross (except Jirard) won't even acknowledge Jared OR Holly

No. 866547

Honestly, what a hilarious and classy thing to do to a pair of narcissists. It must be driving them up the wall not to get that sweet sweet attention.

No. 866548


She probably accused them all of abuse when they laughed at her for crying at a sushi restaurant.

Somewhat related, PJ2 is sperging out because RantGrumps isn't licking Jared's taint. Now they are going over there and downvoting anyone on the Subreddit that thinks Jared is an opportunistic sex addicted pig. Yesterday the RantGrumps post on Reddit was filled with people discussing how gross Holly and Jared were for trying to profit off of this mess and there was a pretty overwhelming consensus. Now posts there have a lot less upvotes than yesterday and the PJ2 mod wiklr (Hi!!) is trying to fight people there. Sure showing people what a great community Jared has!!

No. 866552


Jared said himself "Look at both sides & come to your own conclusions."

They are coming to their own conclusions…

No. 866553

Color me surprised. It's as if "cancel culture is bad" and "muh freedumb of speech!" only applies to Jared and Holly and themselves, and everyone else is just Wrong and Mean and Stupid On The Internet.

That's how you know you're one of the idiots, lads, that you feel the need to browbeat and intimidate people into acquiescing or silence – because you sure as shit don't have arguments to back it up. (Sealioning and low-intelligence trolling don't count.)

No. 866555


What Jared meant to say is "Look at both sides & decide I'm right or else I'm filing a lawsuit"

No. 866556

"Don't call my shit out in public or speak about me if you're not licking my ass or I will sue! Wahhh!"

No. 866559

Seriously it's hilariously pathetic how bad Jared is at people when they don't buy his bullshit. He gets with Holly because she's so gushingly glad and grateful for his attention, but anyone he can't just get a positive response out of by throwing them some crumbs? Anyone who might be critical of him out loud?

Yeah, he's all SIGN THIS NDA SO YOU CAN'T TALK ABOUT ME. And that's very telling of the sort of weak-ass cowardly asshole Jared is lol

No. 866560

I completely lost all respect for Jirard after he back-pedalled on his statement. Apparently he donated in Jared's stream as well?

I can imagine Ross saying it's nothing to do with him anymore and just being chill because that's the type of person he is.. at least he can rely on GG and the Supermega boys.

No. 866563

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No. 866564


He donated money to sexual abuse victims and then donated money to a man who takes advantage of his audience for his own sexual gratification. He completely shit on any good will he put out there.

No. 866565

LOL or Louis CK! Holly likes shitbags who look like badly taxidermied animals right?

No. 866566


yeah I hate it because I frickin LOVE his scary game squad videos on jesse cox's channel. I've been watching them for years. But I haven't seen any since, it's so awkward to hear his voice knowing he's acted this way

No. 866569

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Exactly. What a hypocrite.

Jirard - does this statement not apply to the fans who were taken advantage of through Jared's abuse of power? What happened to 'nor will I ever condone any of these actions'?

Just makes me feel like Jirard is at it too tbh.

No. 866571

I think his long-time friendship with Jared is clouding his judgement tbh

No. 866583

Surprised his longtime friendships with JonTron or Greg didn't cloud Jirard's judgement when he kicked them to the curb.

No. 866588


Wouldn't be surprised if Jared had dirt on Jirard. Heidi and Jirard's girlfriend were very close.

No. 866589

why are yall so fixated on jontron? lol he acted shitty and people revaluated their friendship with him. it happens

No. 866594

That's what I'm getting at. JonTron does something shitty and Jirard's ready to drop him like a bad habit. Jared also does something shitty (and allegedly illegal) and Jirard's still supporting him. Like WTF, Jirard??

No. 866595

Yeah, he's a racist, he said racist shit, people called him out and he doubled down, so his friends dropped him, big deal

No. 866597

Think you've missed the point the original anon was trying to get across

No. 866598

yep, gotcha, i missed it. Thought it was one of those times like "POOR JON GOT DROPPED BY HIS FRIENDS, WHO'S LAUGHING NOW!!". my bad.

tbh i think the explanation is pretty simple: they care about Jared and they choose to believe him. I mean, look at PBG, the guy straight up jumped at Heidi's throat because he was conviced (possibly STILL) she was being a bitch airing their dirty laundry online. He obviously cares for Jared.

Which is grosser than secret blackmailing plots.

No. 866599


On one of the now deleted takedowns of Jared, Jirard commented that the break between JonTron and NormalBoots was something Jon wanted. Just like with GG, the time investment was too much and took away from his personal show. So I'm not sure how much Jirard and Jon actually fell out, based on that comment.

No. 866603

Well that really is disappointing, but not surprising.

Ah ok. It just seemed a bit too coincidental when JonTron was caught making those comments, unless I have my memory mixed up or something.

Either way, I still thought Jirard and the rest of NormalBoots would have a lot more integrity, but ah well, can't harp on it too much since I can't truly speak on their private lives.

No. 866607


I still think it says a lot about NB that the two big cases of a creator being a fuckwit (OTT racist, and then a sexual predator) were also followed up with "that creator made the choice to end the relationship amicably." Highly suggests the NB team has an extreme lack of morality.

No. 866635

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I really hope this isn’t real. Imagine getting a tattoo inspired by someone you look up to, just for them to turn out to be an awful person.

No. 866636

That, and you know they're stanning Jared because he's rich, white and still somehow has clout and connections despite the sordid shit that keeps coming out about him.

No. 866637

This is the best reply to the shirt yet

No. 866664

My bad, sorry anon. It might have come from here?

>>860741 and >>860734?

No. 866706

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Isn’t she the one who was flipping the fuck out less than two days ago because it was storming?

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I take it back - she and Jared must’ve gotten into an argument because she’s back on the “woe is me, let me pretend to care about suicidal people” shit again

No. 866710

She was just chatting in his stream though. You guys are getting way too tinfoily

No. 866712


Me saying Holly only mentions mental health when she can play a wounded victim is tinfoil now? Or me pointing out that Heidi saw the same abusive patterns between Jared/Holly that she experienced herself is tinfoil?

Okay, pj2 - should I have said that she was upset that no one wants to buy her hideous clothing that’s trying to profit off of this situation?

No. 866713


Also refuse to watch that pedodouche’s stream. Enjoy knowing that you watching is supporting someone who abuses those around him and someone abused his fame to get nudes from fans.

No. 866720


No. 866726

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No. 866729

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No. 866730



"Now let's continue to shit-talk & 'spread awareness' about anyone who hurt our precious Jared's fee-fees!!!"

No. 866732

The comments about her shitty shirts must have gotten to her

No. 866734


The fact that she needed to tell him that in stream rather than in a text or a phone call said everything - He's (probably) again withholding attention, so she did the "uwu woe is me" retweets. That's her M.O.


As they should. You don't get to say "Heidi did this to get attention - she got X amount of followers!" and then turn around and do the same shit, but worse, because you were doing it for financial reasons.

No. 866735

I also like how only a tiny fraction of the PJ2 crowd seems to actually gives a shit about Holly.

No. 866737


Yeah, well, that's what happens when 98% of your remaining fanbase are Incels/MRAs who think all women = bad and all men = heroes

No. 866738

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fun fact: "Change the world to be with the one you love" does NOT mean fucking your boytoy because his dick is apparently made of gold and limited time only rather than just waiting until you've both divorced your respective spouses first.

No. 866741


Wow. Holly is going to have a bad time if this is what she thinks 'love' is.

No. 866742


Holly is going to have a bad time regardless - She defended a dude who was accused of pedophilia (including sending said minor's contact information to the guy accused of pedophilia), She lied about her husband being aware that she was trying to fuck the world's weirdest dick while said dick was still married to someone else, she claims to be a mental health advocate and then proudly declares someone else to be unfixable.

She dug herself one hell of a hole. Good luck digging your way out, Hoelly.

No. 866744

He is literally a piece of a shit for his actions and i hope he's cancelled for it by a lot of fans of the completionist.

Yeah, it sucks. I used to watch some of his videos too as background stuff while i did work. It's like all these creeps are being exposed by their actions and replies to the Propedo scandal.

No. 866745


> "It's like all these creeps are being exposed by their actions and replies to the Propedo scandal."

It makes you wonder if they've stopped and thought that by defending ProPedo, they're effectively damaging their own careers and reputation - not to mention that if it DOES eventually come out that he's been full of shit this entire time, they'll have to live with the knowledge that they defended a creep who solicited nudes from minors.

I don't care if they're a friend or not - That's some creepy shit that should NOT be supported.

No. 866746

she's gonna lose her mind when Jared gets sick of her mentally ill ass and leaves her. She was only there because she was a thrill and men love that excitement of cheating when they're doing the chase, but once they're caught, they usually leave the side ho.

Do you guys think he'll leave Holly by end of this year?

No. 866748


She'll be lucky to last another month, once PedoDick realizes that the initial burst of support from his video has died out and the internet has swung back towards hating him (particularly because of the additional shit he's getting for associating with that bullshit clothing line; That, to me, doesn't scream "I'm a guy that's just trying to move on!")

No. 866749

Pretty much. You dont defend shit people, friend or not. You usually call em out and cut em off if you have to. Jared was exposed for sending nudes to fans, using his power and influence to fuck them, as well as cheating on his wife with her friend. This is true. the pedo stuff (imo is truth as well) but at least we know for certain he used women (fans) for sex and cheated openly. Defending that kind of person says a lot.

No. 866751

Jared should have been up front with his cheating, less people would have harassed Heidi too, if Jared actually cared about Heidi. Most men wouldn't care anyways compared to when women are caught cheating they get mobs of incels/MRAs harassing them with no end in sight. Most people in the beginning harassing and trolling Holly were Ross fans, even though Holly likes to blame all her problem on Heidi.

No. 866754


Exactly. Heidi's main thing was that she told Jared he had to come clean about his cheating or she would. Hence him trying to control the narrative of "you may hear some things." He wasn't talking about the pedo allegations; those happened outside of Heidi's periphery. But, of course, Jared couldn't stomach taking responsibility for what he did, hence this mess.

No. 866761

god will you shut the fuck up

No. 866773

This is actually pathetic. She sounds like a fangirl talking to her favorite YouTuber and not her actual boyfriend. Like, saying something to try and get his attention. Their relationship is doomed.

No. 866774

Maybe Hoelly will change her mind about "sex trophys" in order to try to tie down PedoWorm since he is already showing signs of losing interest in her. Haha

No. 866781

I get you folks hate on anything not Heidi, but..this is literally how couples (and even close friends) talk to each other. Then again, I doubt most people here has ever had a bf/gf or good relationship you can just say random shit to.

Nitpick something else.

No. 866782

I don't see how Heidi can get out of this unscathed. she screeches and overshares on twitter and looks insane as shit, and her follower count keeps plummeting. When holly the troll doll and beta jared look more competent then you, you must be truly exceptional.

No. 866783


Nah, my significant other would already know that I ordered a 5 pound bag of "gummy butterflies" in the mail. I would have told them probably BEFORE I ordered it.

Not wait to mention it in a stream. You know, when he's working. This honestly just proves they aren't living together yet, which is giving Holly tons of anxiety.

No. 866784

It actually reminds me of Lainey leaving comments in Onision's stream because he ignores her texts. There have been times you hear his phone vibrate on stream then he glances at it and does nothing until Lainey finally pops in.

Holly and Lainey have quite a bit in common so I can see their relationships having the same dynamics. The whole "I want to suffer and date douchebags so I can play the eternal victim" schtick. I mean, her clothing designs are the biggest example of her milking her victim card dry. I guess Ross didn't manipulate and humiliate her enough to keep her interested like Jared.

No. 866789

This. Healthy couples dont need to bother each other in stream when they can text or call or… just pop by? Why leave a comment that he could miss in a chat?
I've seen extremely long distance couples talk in each other's chats but it's usually sweet nothings or helping mod the chat. These two live very close to each other so that's a moot point.

No. 866791

Anything involving Hoelly isn't normal hun, she said it herself, "I'm Sorry. I'm mentally ill." I honestly feel sorry for Hoelly because I don't think she can ever have any kind of healthy relationship with anyone. And PedoWorm seems to treat his lovers like crap or/and ignoring them once he loses interest in them like UNO cumrag, Hoelly and Heidi.

No. 866809

I've been reading the past threads to catch up on the drama and I seemed to have missed the Uno stuff. What happened there?

No. 866817

Unogirl is someone who came forward about being one of Jared's side hoes when Heidi revealed he was cheating. She was a fan, met him at a con and invited him to play uno in her hotel room, then they ended up fucking. Next cons they were both at, they just fucked. Immediately after the story broke, she acted repentant and was saying she felt somewhat manipulated, then Jared contacted her again, they "reminisced about the good times" and she was right back to licking his ass.

No. 866820

Thanks for the recap! Which thread was this in?

No. 866821

A bunch of them since she was mentioned when she first came forward on reddit, later when Jared contacted her again, and a few times since when she's defended him or downplayed his shitty actions

No. 866822

My bf is a twitch streamer and I would never post cringy attention bait in his chat like that. Only fan girls who don’t know the guy personally would do that(blog)

No. 866829


Exactly. Something as pointless as "I got gummy butterflies in the mail" is what you text your boyfriend about or you tell him in a phone call - not dropping hints in the middle of a public stream like a desperate fangirl trying so desperately to get your favorite to notice you.

No. 866832

>like a desperate fangirl trying so desperately to get your favorite to notice you.
And desperately trying to make everyone else think your relationship is really intimate. It's pointless to the extent it sounds like an inside joke or something? As if gummy butterflies are significant to them and that's why she tells him about them with zero context or relevance.

No. 866837

I've had a streamer bf and I don't talk to him any differently in stream than I do in private. I think this is going a bit too far with the tinfoiling and nitpicking.(blog)

No. 866840


> "I think this is going a bit too far with the tinfoiling and nitpicking"

You can feel free to go back to PJ2 to continue worshipping your bird mom queen, if you'd like. The rest of us are too busy noticing how weird the PedoWorm/Hoelly relationship is to care.

No. 866841

Nice strawman and assumption. I don't go to pj2, this is the only place I frequent. It's pretty telling of how much of an echo chamber this is with how you guys react whenever anyone mentions anything that isn't licking Heidi's ass and completely curbstomping Jared and hoelly. It's okay to not be black and white about this subject. Not everyone who disagrees is your enemy.

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Looks like Hoelly's follower count is dropping again - could be the reason for the Return of the "Look how sad and depressed I am" photo

No. 866858

Also, today is apparently World Suicide Prevention Day - just WAITING for Holly to bring up her own "valiant" struggles with her mental health due to cancel culture and how she bravely pushed past that (until she needs some sympathy and trots it back out again)

No. 866859

Can't wait to see who she's going to call unfixable and abusive this time!

No. 866866

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Knowing her mindset lately, she'll throw herself on the sword "I know I have struggled with mental illness and have acted inappropriately in the past" just so that her fan(s) can rush over and assure her with asspats that she's done nothing wrong. She is the epitome of Jean Ralphio's sister in Parks & Rec

No. 866868

Leave Monalisa out of this

No. 866878

>Not completely curbstomping Jared and hoelly is not the point of lolcow?

Earlier before this projared milk we were talking about Suzy's looks and when I wanted to talk about Hoelly's cross-eyed granny troll looks on an earlier thread some WKs came here defending her.

No. 866888

Before all of the projared drama happened, the second someone was saying something slightly negative about Holly, they were shut down immediately because "She's a cute quirky bird mom so much better than boring snoozy!" Also, I've seen a lot of people in the threads making good points about Heidi not being a complete angel and pointing out the fact that at times, her behavior was bad. Do you even read the threads?

No. 866890

Even now people are being nice to suzy only as a contrast to holly. That's the female experience foe you.

Heidi has her faults (personally, i wouldn't be surprised if it turned out she knew more about the shitshow that she's letting on) but cmn, holly is hilariously trashy without the comparisons lol

No. 866891


I still dislike suzy regardless of her weight but admittedly she has stayed low and just kept to her cringy merch and stickers. Her friend gab is a bitch and she's getting people on gurugossip so she still surrounds herself with bad people. it's a highkey theory that suzy pushed gab towards jacksepticeye even while he was dating his ex Signe, Sean admitted this in video that Suzy talked her up, which is ironic since Suzy used to "worship" Signe and be all "Sean if you hurt her imma come for you" so her loyalties lie wherever it suits her, still a cow

No. 866902

What did gab do? I started following her youtube and seemed like a fairly innocuous streamer

No. 866907


gab is a horrendous social climber who only kisses ass to get what she wants. She was going to move with her husband back to the Netherlands to "start a family" and settle down, a month later she divorced her husband (who she has been with since like 2006) and about a month after that was sleeping with Jacksepticeye who had also recently dumped his gf Signe terribly. They officially state they dated later, but tweets, mentions and putting pieces together show there was more to it than just coincidence. She has said racist shit about japanese people on video (that they constantly make grammatical errors bc of course, japan people hurr durr, and she often makes stereotypical racist japanese accents). She has seriously taken an anachan turn with very low calorie intake (for her size, since she's tall), talks about it on tweets etc but then goes and posts pictures of junk food/fattening food she apparently eats. She is also one of those insecure "not like other girls" because she is often jealous/snarky towards other women (and has made comments about women being overweight), it's like prettier, more femme girls are a threat to her cause she often makes "jokes". She was going to PAX (paid for by Sean), and at the same time opened a donation bowl for PAX (supposedly for travel/lodging but turns out it was just fun money to spend for random shit). She gets so many things bought by Sean it's insane, she is definitely enjoying his money and status (hanging out with pewdiepie and marzia, meeting troy baker and nolan north, and ryan reynolds, etc). She also compared her "haters" to flat earthers kek because she can't take criticism.

Generally gab salt has always been around but because she's a smaller presence she didn't get much. She knew how scummy suzy was and she still pursued a friendship with her and used to beg for attention on twitter. Ofc they ignored her at the time. But because Gab knew Quiet's model, a Dutch model living in Japan, when arin and suzy had their big MGS phase they traveled to Japan as usual and met the model Stephanie, and Gab asked her to tell them to follow her. Ever since they followed her on twitter and she latched on to Suzy and now they are "bffs" and "wives". Her big blowup was dating jacksepticeye which as I mention has super shady origins from both of them.

apologies for the only semi related post so i'm sageing

No. 866910

Has it been proven that she slept with Jack before their official statement? I've known of Gab for years because she used to play with one of my favorite youtubers (who now solely streams), Sinnow, so when she started dating Jack I was mega thrown off.

No. 866913


jack and gab had been talking for ages on twitter, jack donated on streams and they'd met at events, before both their separations. In one of jack's tours he was at the netherlands and some fans saw them the morning after and it was like outside gab's house cause she was there and it became a big conspiracy. Keep in mind gab was vagueposting on twitter about him and they were meeting up before they announced their togetherness. They publicly said it started around January I think? But even Jack can't keep his story straight.

there is no "hard evidence" they fucked before they both split from their respective partners but the timelines are really fuzzy when you put all the pieces together, combined with suzy talking up gab to jack, and gab suddenly divorcing a very longterm relationship that seemed to be fine. Her ex Pyke is a very sweet guy who doesn't get into drama or anything, a few days before the divorce he had even gotten her gifts, but if you saw streams on his channel with gab, she was mentally checked out of the marriage a long time ago, and it's obvious cause she looks like she would rather be anywhere else than there. Also she confirmed it was her that initiated the divorce.

I used to watch gab bc of her scary japanese game videos. Way before she met Sinow etc. She got into those crowds because of John Wolfe (harshly critical) and was with sinow, mangaminx etc. She's kinda pushed all those aside now that she has "better" people to hang out with.

No. 866915

Ahh, okay, got it.

No. 866930

Eh, ok. Thanks for the recap. I cant hate someone for falling out of love with their husband, it happens. Also if i had a millionaire boyfriend you can bet id make him pay for everything lol. Ill start hating her when something truly awful pops up

No. 866932

The context of the relationship makes it look creep, who it is and who they are doing it too makes it odd and try hard.

If I saw this happening with another couple or two people, without Projared & Holly's background, I wouldn't blink an eye about it. It's just not a big deal.

I watch plenty of streamers who SO's come in the chat and say similar shit. It's not crazy.

But it becomes weird because of the situation and the people, IMO.

Like nothernlion's wife says shit like this all the time, or Jerma's GF in the chat.

but it's gross, needy & telling that Holly is doing it because of all we know whats going on with them.

No. 866950

It honestly just reads like Holly wants attention for being Jared’s girlfriend. It’s the same as her posting that picture of him in her shitty “Cancelled” shirt.

It’s all “Look at us being in a relationship!”

No. 866963

it is just a countdown until the inevitable break up. Holly is way too clingy and needy.

The shitstorm is gonna be amazing

No. 866965

It's going to be a glorious day for all of us when it happens. I'm giving it a month at most.

No. 866974

It'll be great fun to watch the WKs have to pivot to attack pedojared instead of defending him. Dan is gonna have a stroke.

I get the feeling they are already on the rocks from Holly's sadposting, but I don't think the actual breakup will happen for a while. Jared can't toss her too quickly, and she won't go quietly nor will she let him go easily. I'm gonna guess December or January for the fireworks.

No. 866976

It's going to be an all-out autism war between ProPedo incels and Strix spergs.

No. 866988

I wish for that milky heaven but you know they could end up like this >>866784 and stay together

No. 866995

I think Holly is going to keep holding onto Jared for as long as she possibly can. She ruined her reputation for him, and I wouldn’t put it past her to see him as some sort of prize for “rescuing” him from Heidi.

Jared sounds like he’s a miserable boyfriend and husband the longer someone’s with him. Even if they’re still together a year from now I doubt it’ll be a happy or healthy relationship. The fact that neither of them know how to apologize or own up to their faults just cinches their relationship is already on the path to them both being absolutely miserable.

Heidi’s lucky she got out.

No. 867039

Jared is a cry baby pussy that tries to be the "sensitive feminist" which hooked Heidi in the first place. He's just a passive aggressive manipulative fuck. I'm guessing the end of the line for Holly and Jared will be when Heidi's divorce finalizes and Holly can't blame the evil unfixable Heidi for their problems.

No. 867042

I agree, as much as I hoped they would break up soon I actually think they'll hang onto each other for as long as possible to prove it was 'true love'.

In the end, I think Holly will be the one who loses the most out of this whole situation. She's already lost a lot of long time fans who have seen a completely different side to her and eventually Jared will leave her, but I guess financially she'll always have her grandad's money.

No. 867043

big tinfoil, but i don't think they're calling themselves boyfriend and girlfriend. She's too quirky and he's too much of a scumbag slut, i'd put my money on him not wanting to "put labels on their love" using the excuse of being abused and afraid of love, and holly being asexual after the first wave of attraction for Diath (not jared) wares off, she'll lose interest.

No. 867050

They're probably 'friends with benefits' to everyone irl, & from what I've seen they don't seem to live in the same house.

No. 867083


> "pivot to attack pedojared instead of defending him"

Oh, no way. They'll DEFINITELY turn to attack Hoelly instead - which will make the whole thing more glorious, just because she rejoiced so hard when they started attacking Heidi.


I'm willing to bet (tinfoil obviously) that she's using Grandpa's money to fund Jared's various lawyers and lawsuits/legal issues. Filing THAT many different claims against those who said mean things that hurt his fee-fees can't be cheap.


I could see him say "Let's not use labels" because he doesn't want to be attached to 200 lbs of crazy in a 100 lb bag - but Hoelly will try to make it into a whole "we're too special for labels" kind of deal


This. I could also see him try to sell Hoelly some sort of lie about "The lawyers say it's best if I don't cohabitate with another woman until the divorce is final" - because someone who feels the need to repeatedly post pictures of him as a "gotcha heidi! I got him and you didn't!" move? She would DEFINITELY want that dude living with her 24/7.

No. 867084

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Another clear attempt at profitting off of the controversy, even though it's for a "witchcraft" shirt (Since all of the stans like to claim that Jared is in the clear since he didn't INTEND to get nudes from minors, even though he had no precautions in place)

No. 867085

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Also she and her friends apparently only view this whole shitshow as "internet drama"

Not her helping Jared destroy his marriage and her own - and not PedoWorm receiving nudes from minors (which is still a crime, not just drama)

No. 867086


I thought mental health guru Hoelly knew that "we judge ourselves by our intent but others by their actions" and that intent doesn't matter if the action still hurt the other person, it's mental self awareness 101, guess it doesn't apply to her or to the guy whose face looks like foreskin

No. 867092

That stuff about intent is just some black magic bullshit.
Hoelly wouldn’t let the mental health guru shtick get in the way of her witchy aesthetic.

No. 867096


For anything else, I'd agree - but when it comes to Mr. "I've-sexually-awakened-you" PedoWorm?

If she didn't let her husband or his wife get in the way, I can't imagine she'd be above using her bullshit clothing line (that he's already modelled for once)

No. 867103

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Okay, the comment about "I got gummy bears in the mail!" makes even less sense now that I know she made a public tweet about BUYING the fucking things a few days ago. Jared would have seen the tweet if he actually gave a fuck about Hoelly or what she posted - Instead, it still comes off as her desperately trying to get attention or to remind the fans that she's with him.

No. 867108


not to mention she said they were gummy butterflies? ok hoelly, whatever you need to get through the day with scraps of attention I guess

No. 867116

>I'm guessing the end of the line for Holly and Jared will be when Heidi's divorce finalizes and Holly can't blame the evil unfixable Heidi for their problems.
I actually disagree, I think that this is how she'll dig her heels in.
>jared's ignoring me
it's okay, you must be going through some emotional turmoil thanks to your abuser-ex Heidi!
>jared's being shitty
> it's okay, you learned these habits from Heidi! I have to show you how to ~properly cope~

Heidi is going to be the "reason" for Jared acting like a shithead for a long time, and the "reason" that she NEEDS to stay in order to undo the "damage" that Heidi's done to Jared

No. 867185

I never actually thought about that before, that Holly and Jared aren't really attracted to eachother, but to their respective D&D characters.

No. 867199

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This “comic” is fucking $15

Next up: one titled “cancelled” for $30 and the only thing inside is that “sorry, I’m mentally ill” tweet

No. 867200

You know how she hated being called "Ross's wife"?
She realized that people started to latch onto & love her DnD character, so she "became" her character.
It IS her identity now.

No. 867201

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Are….are we supposed to feel bad for Hoelly OR Anna?

I ain’t slut shaming but Jesus fucking Christ, you don’t get to play the victim when you’re stressful situations could’ve been resolved by not spreading your fucking legs outside of your marriages (at least without an agreement between everyone)

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Jesus, now they’re BOTH doing it. Also, who wants to bet that Jared’s banging Kayla too? Maybe hoping for the worlds worst threesome with her and hoelly?

No. 867212

Didn't her ex husband just die? Like, if she's implying that dealing with that is a long term crisis, seems like a reasonable thing to complain about. Holly shouldn't be able to relate because her recent 'crisis' is 100% her fault

No. 867213

Didn't her ex husband just die? Like, if she's implying that dealing with that is a long term crisis, seems like a reasonable thing to complain about. Holly shouldn't be able to relate because her recent 'crisis' is 100% her fault

No. 867217


Maybe that’s the case for her, but Jared and Hoelly both are clearly trying to relate it the crisis of their own making

No. 867231


Yeah her ex husband that she left for her DCA cast mate died.

No. 867238

I know we've been saying that for threads and threads but has that been 100% confirmed?

No. 867239

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her hand is fucking broken lol. which holly thread are we in

No. 867246

She tried to claim that “Intent is all that matters!” and “Context is not important!” with regards to her own actions too, when defending herself against the cheating accusations. It stuck in my mind because along with “If Jared was so horrible why didn’t Heidi just leave?” and other such statements it’s the exact opposite of what you’d expect an abuse survivor and mental health advocate to say.
With most people I’d expect comments like that to come from a place of ignorance rather than malice, but $30 Mental Health Tip Holly does not have that excuse. She knows very well that those things are wrong and hurtful and she says (or endorses) them anyway.

No. 867250

This to me is the most obvious thing. If Jared had an inkling of the obsession Holly did for their relationship, they would've moved in together by now and also be out as a couple. Not sure if I missed this between so many shitshows, but did Jared ever actually acknowledge that Holly is actually his soulmate/true love too? Cuz with how onesided it is, imo it seems pretty obvious Holly was just the (scientifically proven) easy ugly side chick, or just his excuse/catalyst to not be in a monogamous marriage anymore.

Holly got played, big time. And her nasty vindictive ass deserves every moment of it.

Her and Holly are such a joke milking this empty teat. In the real world, adults like them don't get very far and it shows. Shit happens, you grieve how you do, and you keep going. Reminds me of Kelly Eden not getting out of bed/working for months. Most people don't have the luxury to continue grieving and whining constantly to the public. They eventually heal as much as they can and keep going. This lot is such a joke. There's a reason they can only live/function on the internet.

No. 867264

I'm just waiting for the inevitable fallout of ProPedo and Hoelly - because you KNOW she is going to roast his ass in the public arena with all sorts of receipts, evidence, and allegations (because I think she knows WAY more about the pedophilia thing than we know) and this time? Ain't nobody going to defend his ass.

No. 867292


Holly and Jared are a very stereotypical "us against the world, baby" couple that will fall apart once they don't have that unifying stressor of people in their faces. They've projected their relationship into existence hardcore lol

She's a supposed asexual uwu bean in a relationship with a deceitful, cheating sex addict - watch her be a Cool Girl like Heidi tried to be and let Jared "be himself" (aka dick around with underage girls that are prettier than her) because she "doesn't believe in owning people" or some shit and then resenting Jared for her hurt fee-fees. And Jared will absolutely ignore her, mistreat her and give her the cold shoulder, and then love bomb her when she's about to walk and open her big mouth on him and his shittiness. It's going to be a classic hot-and-cold relationship. Ought to be milky af!

No. 867297

I doubt it. Even if she comes out with tons of receipts their MRA audience will side with him and turn on her the same way they turned on Heidi. The only reason they’re tolerating this trustfund tumblrite now is because she’s supporting their self-insert Jared.

No. 867354


I'm not going to knock her for realizing that maybe she wasn't asexual after all - but good god, Hoelly. Ain't a dick in the world worth sacrificing your marriage, your career, and your dignity over. Get yourself a fucking vibrator and call it a day instead of imploding your life for some dude who was already married to someone else.

I definitely think she's going to try to play the Cool Girlfriend™ and let Jared fuck anything with a pulse for awhile - but she's going to learn like Heidi did that he is incapable of a long term, committed relationship. He'll ditch Hoelly when he finds the next incredibly dumb, emotionally damaged piece of ass who doesn't threaten to off herself when things don't automatically and immediately go their way.

I still find it odd that she'd blurt out the desperate "Jared I got gummy butterflies in the mail" and then just radio silence. I'm willing to bet that Jared is freezing her out again (tinfoil) because like Heidi said, dude doesn't know how to handle other human's emotions so he just cuts contact.

No. 867363

How short is this comic? Because 15$ is about the price of a new 50p hardcover in my country. Not excatly 'short'.

No. 867416

Haven't watched the episode yet—just saw the notification—but the newest episode of Mario Maker 2 on the Game Grumps is titled "Clowns Are Pretty Popular Right Now."

Tinfoil but that sounds like shade. Haha.

No. 867418

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Yeah, might be worth including a summation of the updated Nate/Anna/Cristina saga in the next OP? I would like a better confirmation of their timeline, even reading through the previous threads was there ever an actual concrete determination of their cheating? From what I can tell + some updates (pls add/correct me if wrong):
>Anna Prosser and Geoff Robinson were married. Nate Sharp and Cristina Vee were engaged. Anna and Nate’s DCA characters were in a relationship together, much like Holly and Jared’s.
>1/6/18: Cristina and Nate announce engagement
>8/18/18: Nate announces he and Cristina have split
>10/7/18: Geoff announces he and Anna have split
>4/3/19: Nate announces he is DMing a new D&D campaign “Hell Hath No Fury”, which will include Anna. Set to debut at D&D Live 2019 (5/17). This did no appear to happen, and there doesn’t appear to be any info about why.
>5/8/19: P i g e o n g a t e
>5/16/19: Nate announces he is dropping out of multiple convention appearances for mental health reasons. He does not mention D&D Live here, but he was apparently dropped from the schedule with no announcement.
>7/12/19: Nate tweets: “I’m writing a new DnD module for a game I’m gonna start DMing soon and holy heck I’m already so excited for this setting AHHHHH!”. No mention of HHNF. People are confused.
>7/20/19: Geoff suddenly and mysteriously passes away. It is later revealed this was due to a blood cloth in the lungs. Cristina publicly has a very difficult time with this.
>8/18/19: Cristina tweets: "I can’t stop thinking about Geoff today. I am so proud to have called him my boyfriend for the short amount of time we were given. I’ll think about him before I sleep everyday, and his words continue to give me strength."
>8/30/19: Anna and Nate appear at PAX West together, debuting their new clothing line together "Cantrip". Cristina Vee is also present at this PAX.
>8/30/19: Anna performs (in cosplay) as her DCA character Evelyn on Acquisitions Incorporated, Live! at PAX West
>8/31/19: Nate appears as his character Paultin Seppa on HighRollers at PAX West
>Currently: Anna & Nate don’t appear to have announced a relationship, but have started a business together and appear together publicly. Apparently they’re living together in Seattle. Anna tweeted about Geoff today.

I can’t really find concrete dates on them, relationship/cheating-wise. It just seems like accepted knowledge everywhere due to Cristina mocking Holly/becoming buds with Heidi. According to previous anon >>826990 >>827611 Nate & Cristina’s breakup had nothing to do with Anna? Apparently Cristina tweeted/posted on facebook about Nate cheating, but no one can provide caps? Either way, I didn't know they were still playing their characters. If Holly isn't butthurt enough about her situation, I bet the fact that Nate and Anna are getting off scot-free AND got to go to PAX together publicly AND get to continue their characters has her real steamed.

(Here’s the article about Nate’s D&D Campaign that disappeared out of existence following Pigeongate:

No. 867419

So they say that because it's the second clown-themed level they're playing, then Arin says it's a popular insult currently to call someone a clown, and that's it. I don't think it's related to Pigeongate.

No. 867421

I figured as much. Like I said, I haven't seen the episode yet—trying to finish something—just saw the notification and laughed. Thanks for the clarification!

No. 867422

I honestly think GG are smart enough to keep their mouths shut when it comes to acknowledge Jared, Holly and Heidi in any possible way. Stop looking for any small nudge towards Jared/Holly/Heidie from them, it won't happen.

No. 867425

There were caps of tweets from Christina telling Nate to wake his “girlfriend” (Anna) up.

If you’re looking for things about the whole thing with Geoff and Anna, you have to look to Christina and things on the startcraft forums

No. 867427

Haha. Sorry. Tired and bored at the moment, so seeing that title seemed more amusing than applicable.

Tbh though, I wish more people with clout would call out these toxic idiots.

No. 867476

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Holly has the same mentality as this kid - quick, someone be the mom that gives her a hug and pretends like they give a fuck

No. 867492

can you stop autistically posting holly’s likes when they have absolutely fucking nothing to do with anything.

at least have the fucking brain cells to block out the name of this random ass person whose account is now in the hellpit depths of lolcow lmao. you newfags really need to learn some fucking board etiquette.

also what’s with taking shots at a random kid? jfc some anons let their holly hate boner turn them into unrelenting fuckwads.

No. 867503


Where was anyone taking shots at a kid? Try reading, bud - they were insulting Holly using the kid as an example. They didn’t say shit about the kid for acting like a …..well, kid

No. 867521

Holly just has no emotional maturity as a 33 year old woman. She relates to a child getting bullied is somehow similar to her situation of not being adored as much anymore. Any celeb is always going to have people not like them. Grow up Holly, you still have your stans sucking on your tit and be annoying evangelist-like fucks to your personality cult of deep throating PedoWorm's dick.

No. 867523


All of this. Holly when she attempts to interract with Jared publicly just comes across like a 14 year old fangirl with stars in her eyes; It's not like a 30+ year old woman and her 30+ year old boyfriend.

I'm sure it's not easy to see some of the shit we're all saying (even though 90% of it is the truth) - but it all could have been avoided by her/jared having the emotional wherewithal to say "No, we need to wait until the divorces are final before we pursue a relationship with one another" or at the very least, "No, we need to have a sit down conversation with Ross and Heidi and figure out how we're going to do this".

No. 867529

Agreed. I know there isn't much milk right now but its fucking weird and stupid to put every minor action either Hoelly or Jared do under a microscope and tinfoil how this is such a core part of who they are.
She wrote a nothing message on his stream about gummies, this isn't the fucking key evidence you use to extrapolate their relationship togetherml. Save your energy for when the milk inevitably bursts instead of tinfoiling so hard you make shit posts like this >>867416

No. 867546

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This just popped up on my dash. Someone on Tumblr made a shirt to counter Holly's garbage and all the profits are going to a crisis center. Has almost 4,000 notes lol

No. 867548

Lol holy fuck
I wonder how long it'll take Hoelly to catch wind of this and try to get it removed, only then she'll get a ton of backlash since the proceeds are going towards a crisis center

No. 867549

It's already gone from TeePublic

No. 867551

They probably should have redone the artwork considering they are "stealing" it. Not sure if Hoelly can do something to have it taken down.

No. 867556


Should replace the mushroom with a gummy butterfly and the eyes with bird silhouettes with huge beaks. To avoid being sued.

No. 867560

Would buy if it was a little less wordy, the recreation should have been a little different though

Interesting redbubble still has it, very tempting

No. 867571

This is kinda embarrassing lmao
Raising money for charity is cool I guess but making a shitty rip off of Holly's already shit design is pretty yikes

No. 867578


Could it fall under "Fair Use"?


> "Making a shitty rip off….is pretty yikes"

The proceeds are benefitting a crisis center. Taking a shitty shirt that was created for shitty reasons and then making it into something that benefits those who TRULY need help?

Nothing yikes about that one.

No. 867598

It's hardly embarrassing, she took Holly's design and made it funny, with the proceeds going to charity. I hope at least a few people bought it before it got removed.

No. 867602

Plagiarism (even of a lame design) is not fair use, fair use is for when you're making a sort of statement. Jared is slimy but this design is Holly's and afaik she's never sexually abused anyone

I do admire the pettiness of donating all of the 5$ they've made of the shirt to charity as to put Holly in a checkmate state. Truly thinking in 4D kek

No. 867603

that $5 they made is infinitely more useful than Holly's mental health monday twitch shit. at least that $5 could actually benefit someone's mental health for the better.

No. 867604

I agree, i wasnt being sarcastic lol. It's also clear that they gave the money to charity cus it was the only way of stealing the design to mess with Holly and making her look bad for taking it down. I dont play D&D but i'd say this is big chaotic good energy

No. 867618

IF the proceeds are actually going to the crisis center, that is. Wouldn’t be the first time some opportunist fuck on tumblr tried to make a quick buck by scamming woke people.

Stop getting hyped about this shirt until there’s actually some confirmation it’s not a scam at least? Maybe it’d be more believable if they put some work into the design instead of just changing the caption, putting themselves out in the open for Hoelly to cry plagiarism at them.

No. 867622

Yeah, youre right, i forgot people are terrible like that, i only saw the trolling aspect. Bummer.

No. 867626

Hoelly crying plagiarism would draw attention to the alternate, though. Given how popular the original was, that would be a pretty dumb fucking move.

No. 867630

I meant to say they’re making it real easy for hoelly to cry plagiarism and get the shirt taken down. Print-on-demand companies can be pretty sensitive about that. You’d think that if this person really wanted to raise money for charity, they’d make their design more viable.

Unless they didn’t really want to sell the shirt and the plan was just to piss off the trash hag, which I’m cool with lol.

No. 867632

Seems to me like a case of the latter

No. 867644

Do you know what a parody is, anon?

No. 867660

As i said, parody, fair use, satire… Needs go have a point. If holly was a famous rapist, the this would make sense. Here it's a clever move to mess with her and make her look bad if she retaliates. Which is hilarious. But it aint parody.

Anyway other anon was right, milkin this shirt is absurd, ill ban myself out lol

No. 867688

Not necessarily. It can fall under the law of adaptation, homage and transformative works so long as no one is actually claiming the design is by Holly/the original "artist". Works pretty much the same as a parody and fair use.

No. 867692


Unfortunately for it to count as parody it has to be like 70% original or some other arbitrary percentage, as it stands its copyright (not trademark unless Hoelly blew the money to register it, which she might have) violation and there's grounds for removal and posdible legal action.

Redrawing the mushrooms and eyes or subbing in other relevant objects completely would probably have saved it.

No. 867694

>if Holly was a famous rapist

This point keeps getting brought up, but that shirt isn’t claiming that Holly is a rapist. The shirt makes the claim that Holly is protecting somebody who sexually assaults others.

No. 867736

Yes, ok, and jared isnt either. He's scummy, horny and slimey, but SO FAR not a rapist.
There's a difference between sexual misconducts and sexual violence

No. 867745

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It's all been taken down anyways. Also Kayla drew it

No. 867753

>Jared isn’t either

Minors can’t consent to sex with people in their 30s, so…

No. 867755

And there are no allegations of him having sex with minors, only exchanging nudes. The people he slept with, to my knowledge, were all adults.

No. 867772

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Hey friend, let me crush your pedophilic illusion: It doesn't matter if the minor deceived Jared or not. He was in possession of child porn and rather than contacting a lawyer and saying "A minor sent me lewd photos of themselves after telling me that they were of age" (even if just to cover his ass), he hid it, contacted the minors AGAIN, and then admitted to receiving said child porn a few months down the road.

Regardless of if he did it with the intent of receiving child porn, he put himself into a position where it was possible and had NO WAY of verifying ones age other than "Hey, you're 18+, right?" after discussing sexual matters with them for a while

No. 867774

Please learn to read, I'm not saying it was okay in any way, I'm just saying he didn't have sex with any minors so he's not a statutory rapist. Possession of child porn is still a crime, just a different one.

No. 867775

ok, yes, i agree. But receiving nudes is not violence, is it?
it's super shitty and i hope he goes in jail for it, but IT'S NOT VIOLENCE

No. 867777


Did anyone say it was violence? All the t-shirt did was use the rough design of Hoelly's terrible shirt - The creator said NOTHING about the new wording applying to Jared, that's y'all drawing the lines from point A to point B.

No. 867794

I mean, what did they expect

No. 867802

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Could they get any more "boohoo woe is us"??

No. 867803

oh god, heidi just uploaded the twitch stream to her youtube and didn't disable comments. pj2 retards in full force.

No. 867804

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Jesus Hoelly, shut the fuck up and alluding to the fact that you and your pedo lover are using the court system to sort out petty squabbles and threatening everyone with lawsuits because you can't stand the reality of what you've both done.

No. 867806


This just in: Clown Memes are "Cruel" - but fucking someone else's husband before you even approach your own husband about it is A-okay :)

No. 867810

(saged because I can't remember if this was discussed or not)

I know Ross is still following Holly, but is him not following PedoWorm new or did he unfollow awhile ago?

No. 867818

Ross wasn't following him at the time Pigeongate broke, but no one could confirm how long before that he had unfollowed Jared. Most people think it was in early April when all of GG unfollowed and removed their videos with Jared, which coincides with when they were sent the emails from Charlie/Chai about Jared preying on underage fans.

No. 867830


I think it says something that all of the GG have unfollowed PedoDick and stayed unfollowing even after he revealed that the person claimed to be 18.

Everyone else is backtracking and interacting again, so it makes you wonder what else GG/Normal Boots received that is making them leery

No. 867836

Accepting nudes from a minor isn’t legal, anon. You’re really going out of your way to defend him, and it’s not working.

No. 867839

I'm not defending him, I know having CP is a crime, I'm only pointing out he didn't have sex with a minor that we know of, and hasn't been accused of rape. We have to keep the facts straight, otherwise speculation is going to be reported as fact and that will be used to discredit his victims. His real actions are bad enough, we don't need to make up fake ones on top of it.

No. 867847

Sexual violence isn't just the physical act, it's the general all-encompassing term for illegal sexual activity like abusing Youtube e-celeb status for nudes or favours like Austin Jones.

The only difference is Austin was knowingly soliciting minors for these while Jared was taking anyone who bothered. Even if he hadn't exchanged with minors it would still be exploitive and violent in the sense of abusing power.

No. 867849

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Holly: -bitches about being cancelled-

Holly: -bitches about being cursed-

Everyone: These shirts are not a great idea, you should stop.


No. 867851


Also just a huge fan of the "I don't even know what the rumors are, haha" as if she hasn't been stalking twitter like crazy from day one

No. 867852

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She's also back to calling Heidi "vindictive and cruel"

Hoelly REALLY needs to stop while she's behind.

No. 867853

I'm getting sick of this "anti cancel culture' being run by horrible people who are mad they got called out for shit.

Almost every person who been "cancelled" and came back (James Charles, Slazo, Projared) have all DONE something fucked up in the situation that is ignored or brushed passed & sometimes continue being shit people.

Now the anti-cancel culture is being overtaken by assholes. I think cancel culture is stupid as fuck, but I don't want to be involved with people like Holly, Shayna & other idiots who are just flat out not great people & use it to make their bad actions make them look like victims who did/do NOTHING wrong.

No. 867854

Oh so Projared can do all that to defend himself but Holly can't??

No. 867855

I mean heidi

No. 867856


Yes - because the situation happened TO Heidi. Holly CAUSED the entire shitshow she's in the middle of.

She called Heidi opportunistic for gaining twitter followers from all of this, while Hoelly goes and makes an entire line of clothing to get FINANCIAL GAIN from fucking someone else's husband while she's still legally married herself.

No. 867858

Whoa. I think she just deleted that tweet.

No. 867859


And let's not forget the whole "Oh, you sent Jared nudes when you were a minor and feel violated? Lemme just pass him your contact information because that's not fucking creepy at all!" or the "Etika died because of cancel culture, and y'all tried to cancel me, so if I kill myself, it'll be all your fault" bullshit.

But no, Holly's the wounded party who should get to make videos and clothing for profit right now while calling others vindictive and cruel.

No. 867860


Let her. This is the internet, hoelly - once you act like a vindictive passive-aggressive cunt, that shit will live on forever.

No. 867861

Jared made a video, and Holly herself posted tweets of those exact same texts (cherrypicked of course), when did she suddenly start viewing these actions as vindictive? What's her guidelines for when things are just and righteous, and when they're evil and hateful?
I know she constantly owns herself with double standards but my god Holly, get it together.

No. 867862


Here's the guidelines for good vs vindictive

Heidi posts it: Vindictive

Hoelly and/or PedoWorm posts it: Good. Pure. Couldn't be wrong at all.

No. 867864

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Trying to pretend like she's a good person by offering to donate the proceeds now

Why did it take someone pointing it out for you to think of that, Hoelly?

You can't fix your image when your larger-than-life mouth runs off at the first opportunity every single fucking time.

No. 867865

Holly asking the person confronting her to decide for her which charity she should donate to not only comes off as passive aggressive, it also shows she has NO intention of donating anything. If she had she would have made research on her own

No. 867867


Holly has literally tweeted out private conversations in petty, vindictive ways though. The cognitive dissonance in that tweet alone is fucking astounding. Jesus Christ.

No. 867868

Didnt jared say it was the grumps who told him about chai and charlie? I could be mistaken but i think the idea that holly was the one to inform him was a rumor born on this forum. Am i wrong?

No. 867869


Getting someone else to do all of the legwork comes off like those people who sealion ("What do you mean? Can you explain it to me?" etc. much like when Hoelly would ask people to elaborate on why they hate her)

It takes two seconds to google "charities against bullying" and then doing about 5 more minutes of research to ensure it's a legit charity.


Exactly - like the sexts between HEidi and Jared. Why else would she release texts of a wife telling her husband things that a partner (THAT JARED NEVER OBJECTED TO) wanted to try sexually if she was NOT being vindictive as fuck?

Homewrecker Hoelly couldn't be more two faced and shitty if she actively tried

No. 867870


Since the grumps actively unfollowed Jared, I really doubt that they would have slipped him Chai/Charlie's contact info so that he could message them like he did.

No. 867871

100% agree she is being passive aggressive. The main reason she even responded is because she truly believes her and Jared are victims of online bullying.

No. 867872


True. She'll probably make a whole post about "We're going to donate the proceeds to charity!" to make it look like she is just naturally being generous and selfless.

IF it's not self-serving, Hoelly ain't doing it.

No. 867874


I think the confusion might be that Jared was discussing the email that was sent to the Grumps, which included a request for an apology. Then he says when the email surfaced again, after Jared had messaged an apology, the request was gone.

It's odd that Jared knew what was on the email to the Grumps if none of the Grumps showed it to him.

No. 867876


Maybe it's just a mutual email account and Jared saw the email in there (like a group account that any of the grumps could have used for reasons relating to the group)

He managed to track down Chai/Charlie regardless and judging by the way Hoelly continues to act like he did nothing wrong, I have no reason to suspect that she would NOT have passed the info along.

No. 867883

Holly handing over their information came from one of the victims. >>803614

No. 867884

Holly needs someone else to filter and manage her tweets, or she going to have to learn to ignore/block/mute anything she considers as bullying.

No. 867885


She's already admitted to using the negative tweets as a form of self harm. Maybe she's just progressed into MAKING awful tweets that she KNOWS will get an awful response to manufacture that hate and attention she seems to thrive off of.

No. 867890

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Of course, because a charity against childhood bullying wouldn't benefit you and your fuckbuddy, Hoelly - since we all know that you two are the eternal victims here.

(not knocking the charity - I generally think it's a good cause)

No. 867896

This comes off as vindictive though?
You're donating to own the haters? Not because you want to help people?

No. 867897

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if only it were these two

No. 867898


That's what we're all saying. Hoelly isn't doing this out of the goodness of her heart; She's doing it as a "Look what a good person I am!" move. It's a purely PR move stunt, not a charitable move in the least.


Well, Homewrecker the Eternal Dumbass DID post pictures of herself right in front of a sign that said photography was prohibited. We can only hope the cops bust her as a show of force and to make a point.

That kind of stupidity shouldn't be worded with a "lolol look how quirky she's being!"

No. 867899

She’s publicly doing this shot again ‘tell me how I can make this better I just don’t understand. yes donate to charity good idea’ but you just know it won’t be long before she’s liking tweets from her white knights crying about how this person is bullying poor sweet innocent Holly by calling her out. She’s a sly scheming pos

No. 867900


She already was - one of her liked tweets was the one about "I love all of the comments whining about you making this shirt, it's just proving the point" or some shit like that.

She can pretend to be good all she wants - but she doesn't use what little brains god gave her and winds up just making it worse for herself than it was before

No. 867905

>post pictures of herself right in front of a sign that said photography was prohibited

Don't be exceptional, hundreds of tourists take pics in front of the A51 signs. Security just watches you and leaves you alone unless you actually trespass beyond the signs. lmao doing this isnt exclusive to the birdkeeper and her ugly fledgling.

No. 867906

Imagine being able to be bullied as an adult. No one is giving you swirlies and pantsing you in class, Hoe. Grow up.

No. 867907


"But…but…THE CLOWN EMOJIS!!!!"

No. 867909

Don't be silly, anon, Holly doesn't care about other people, they're not real to her. Only she has emoshiuns and fweewings and thoughts!

No. 867918

Also kinda classist assuming everyone has money to settle their issues in court. In fact, A LOT of people can't afford court and use social media to help them spread the truth, like artists who can't afford copyright claims.

But Hoelly Moneybucks would never understand that.

No. 867922


This. It ran me $200 down payment when I was going to file bankruptcy a few years ago and needed a lawyer - I can only imagine how much it would cost to get a lawyer on retainer, make multiple court appearances, have in-office visits, etc.

Not everybody's grandpa leaves them over a million dollars when they die, Hoelly, so that they can traipse the world studying irrelevant majors and fucking married men.

No. 867923

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She probably gets off getting "bullied by her haters", she has too much of a big ego knowing if she just went off social media everyone would just forget about her.

No. 867925


That's exactly it. Since this shit show started, she hasn't been silent about it for more than a couple of weeks at a time (and I'm talking BARELY two weeks at the longest, iirc)

Homewrecker knows that she's not interesting enough to maintain a fanbase outside of being ProPedo's sideho.

No. 867957


Whoa she already deleted that tweet too.

Hahahaha this idiot

No. 867958


But remember, ProJared Stans, ONLY THE GUILTY DELETE TWEETS! /s

No. 867959

Never seen anyone say this. While it's not wrong, everyone deletes tweets, but usually trolls/sus people tend to delete shit after they stir a pot.

No. 867961


> Never seen anyone say this

The entirety of the PJ2 stan crowd has been saying that since Chai/Charlie deleted their tweets and privated their accounts. They lose their shit any time it looks like Heidi deletes a tweet.

It's been said a fuckton of times.

No. 867968


Lmao. I can't believe her.

Not only is profiting off this entire thing incredibly scummy, now she's deleting any proof that said she would donate to charity, because you KNOW she won't.

"Oh i was thinking about this for awhile" fuck no. You're a piece of shit that only thinks for yourself, Holly.

No. 867969


It was something like "I Can't believe it took me so long to think of this"

Bitch, you didn't think of shit. Someone had to hold your head and point you directly at the idea and now you're claiming it as your own (and deleting all evidence of even that)

Every time you think Hoelly can't get worse, she does.

No. 867972


I like how she also feigns ignorance on any 'rumors'.

Bitch, like we don't know that you obsessively look at anything that even slightly mentions you, Hoelly.

No. 867974


Her or Jared, considering the number of tweets she's popped up in the replies to that don't mention or tag her in any way.

No. 868010

She's also dating Jared, who has directly addressed said "rumors" meaning there's absolutely no way that she is this ignorant

No. 868011


Just one more sad attempt for Homewrecker Hoelly to play the "uwu Im so innocent!" card, as if she isn't playing a leading fucking role in the shittiest lifetime movie of the year, "When the Mistress Cracks: The ProPedo Story"

No. 868020

I don't think they're dating at all. At least not properly. I think Jared likes to erp their dnd characters together because he is a sex obsessed freak. He probably only fucks Holly because they can larp diath and strix and because she's so obsessed with his dick she's easy pussy. Jared is just using her and easily so since he's the first person who fucked her in a way she enjoyed.

No. 868029

Pretty much this. He'll use Holly for easy pussy until he can properly get back in gold graces with the community. Then once he can go to cons and shit again he'll be trolling for new meat to fail at satisfying.

No. 868037

I think it's telling that she focuses on the bullying part of the suggestion and not the sexual violence part which, you know, is what her wormy boyfriend actually committed

No. 868047

Can't get over this bitch claiming she's bullied because she gets clown emojis in her mentions when Heidi's getting rape and death threats, and back during Gamergate women were receiving boxes of ashes in the mail saying their families were next, getting doxxed and swatted, flash games made of them getting beat up, etc. Oh noes, I'm getting backlash for monetizing the backlash against my married boyfriend jacking his meat to children, isn't the internet so mean to me?

No. 868067


As another anon mentioned earlier sexual misconduct and sexual violence are two SUPER different animals. If anything trying to pin Jared with "sexual violence" makes it easy for pj2 jerks to shoot it down because there is no proof or even accusations of that.

No. 868068


Holly actually posted screens of the death/rape/suicide threats she received in that Etika fiasco as example of internet bullying, but deleted them in the backlash. I am sure they are archived somewhere though.

No. 868074

either way they talk in some capacity, she watches his streams as evidenced by her showing up in chat, they've been together in person at least a handful of times since this whole thing broke.
She knows what he's been accused of, period.

No. 868075

Even so, (not saying she should've received those messages at all if true) that's almost completely different & irrelevant to the situation that uwunspired her to make her garbage "cancelled" merch.

I say "almost" because if she hadn't immediately ran to PedoJared's defense on an extremely public medium by telling him, "I'm so sowwy this happening to you, I'm hewe for you if you need awnyfink uwu", no one would have sent her clown emojis, and she would've just ignored Etika's suicide entirely.

Because, let's be honest, she doesn't care about the word suicide unless she's baiting someone into giving her instant gratification with it.

No. 868111

Eh, I wouldn't have put it past her to have found some way to use Etika's suicide as a way to bring attention to herself. She's a very selfish person. Someone else's misfortune is her Twitter self-pity session.

No. 868118

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the only screenshot i remember holly posting is someone saying "i hope you get your birds taken away from you" which… yeah? she has fifty fucking pigeons at this point kek, pic related
i don't recall anyone giving her death threats, and
>suicide threats
that's more her department anon

No. 868129

That IS exactly what she did. Loudly. It was one of the greatest bits of idiotic, attention-seeking sperging Holly has done so far.

No. 868356

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Ah, the simple jokes.

No. 868373

File: 1568422097026.jpg (91.15 KB, 570x297, 20190913_204154.jpg)

What the fuck is wrong with these people?

No. 868375

Is this even true? Did that even really happen?

No. 868377

Jared said it so it must be true!

…But remember, we can't believe everything his wife says without proof!


No. 868383

File: 1568424143733.png (16.61 KB, 599x197, Jared.png)

Ya think?

No. 868400


I think dudebro got a visit from Ross last year mixed up with something that happened recently

No. 868403


Dude has three tweets - this one, the one apologizing to propedo, and one trying to harass the grumps into relisting the videos with pedo in them. Don’t take his word as gold.

No. 868405


When you explode your marriage to fuck your mistress, that’s beyond a “little too into the RP”, bud

No. 868407

do you think they ever roleplayed as their characters when they fucked?

No. 868410


Heidi said in her video something about them either actually doing it or talking about fucking in the costumes she made for him

No. 868413

Oh please Jared, it's all you & Holly have…

…On second thought, sure Jared, leave the RPing (& Holly) behind you now.

No. 868418

Jared made a big deal about Ross visiting him in his video, as if this meant Ross supported him. But that was in March of 2018, long before any of this shit went public. Ross has not visited Jared since Pigeongate, or said a single supportive thing about him or Hoelly. Instead he's talked about being emotionally abused by "a former partner" and is passive aggressively stonewalling Holly's divorce proceedings with non-compliance.

No. 868426

I also like that it’s been 24 hours and since deleting the tweet mentioning the foundation she WAS goin to donate the proceeds to, Hoelly has said NOTHING to back up yesterday’s “sorry I fucked up tweet”

Maybe the stans are right about wanting PewDiePie to support Jared, since clearly he and Hoelly both like to make big talk of donating and then Walk back on their promises

No. 868436

Does he think this all a big joke? It seems like he really has no compassion for Heidi or shame in general.

No. 868442

Probably regretting ever hooking up with Holly

No. 868445

File: 1568432252165.png (91.27 KB, 588x676, whymoveon.png)

>"I’d rather just move on and live my life"

No. 868447

She’s publicly shamed Heidi extensively but whenever anyone calls Holly on her crap suddenly everything is supposed to be done exclusively in a court of law?

No. 868448

File: 1568432879982.png (65.38 KB, 570x542, here.png)


>Why did it take someone pointing (Charity) out for you to think of that, Hoelly?

…Because they only want to bring it up as something that was RUINED by Heidi!!!

>"The DCA fan charity ZINE was canceled immediately (sorry charity)."

No. 868451


Seriously what's the context for this? Is he talking about a different game? Because this is really awkward

No. 868456

He played the Star Wars game yesterday, this tweet references that

No. 868476

File: 1568440035302.png (260.53 KB, 587x596, 978415.png)

Shit like this bothers me SO much. Yes, it was all big bad Heidi who ruined ~everything~ and DEFINITELY not peenjared's gross ass fucking actions. Actions have consequences!

the screenshot of this >>868383 is honestly kinda disingenuous to post by itself. He's replying to himself in reference to his stream. Pic related.
He definitely DID get carried away with his larping with Holly though lol

No. 868481


Agreed about the screenshot, though my cynical self thinks (tinfoil) that he did it purposely instead of just saying that in his first tweet. I think PedoDick honestly thinks it’s okay to joke about how his and Hoellys relationship started now (judging by the way he willingly modeled for the “cancelled” shirt) and is poking at the fact that it started by RPing their strix and Diath bullshit

No. 868493

This is like 2 weeks old tweet from some rando and you are saying that another rando brought up charity so Holly can refer to something that got like 2 likes (none of which Holly's) 10+ days ago? Serious tinfoil there.

No. 868496

>when she lied
Funny they should say that when they can't point to a single lie Heidi told. The only one they bring up is her omitting the fact that they were poly at one point, which was irrelevant as they were no longer poly when the cheating happened.

No. 868500

I cant honestly see him sending out that tweet without seeing the double entendre of it. Its gotta be a low key fuck you to everyone, right? It's that or he's super unaware.

No. 868513

Or it's related to that stream in particular where he likely RP'd given the game he played..?

No. 868517

That's the double entendre of it. Yeah it is about that stream up front, but he has to know that that comment would be seen as a reference to the other shit too. You cant tell me that someone that took that long to respond to allegations about his character, that then carefully and meticulously crafted a response video which got him all dem subs back wouldn't be scrutinizing the fuck out of what he puts out there. And if he dont, then fuck.. he's one of the specialist of special.

No. 868529


Anyone who saw the tweet it was connected to can see that - at first glance - it is in relation to yesterday's stream. However, anyone with over two IQ points (which eliminates Hoelly and like 75% of ProPedo's new fanbase) can ALSO draw the line between a tweet that says "I might've overdone it on the RP" to what his wife said "His affair started off based on RP" (paraphrased there).

No. 868588

Don’t you know that clarifying is “backtracking” and “lying.”

No. 868726

Anon, the correct question is, have they ever STOPPED rping as their characters throughout this entire debacle?

No. 868822

Does anyone else think it’s kind of funny how Hoelly has liked 6-7 different posts about Anna’s DCA character today alone?

Desperately trying to be her friend (when you’re so clearly insecure about your appearance compared to hers) isn’t going to somehow force DCA to become a thing again, Homewrecker

No. 868835

File: 1568525691685.png (11.77 KB, 237x298, Screenshot_305.png)

When is Homewrecker going to learn that her little outbursts are when she loses the most followers - and she keeps her followers when she learns to shut the fuck up?

No. 868836

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Even Jared's subs haven't been doing great lately - This is what I think someone should have prepared them for, that past that initial spike in refollowers that his video got them, they were going to level off followed by people going back to unfollowing.

No. 868864


Is this Twitter followings? Cause he doesn't actually get paid for those, you have to keep track of the YouTube views, anon.

No. 868868


It's the twitter followings - I primarily watch these just because when there's a spike in unfollowings, that's when Hoelly tends to lose her shit and run off at the mouth

I take the YouTube followers with a grain of salt, since a lot of people subscribe to a channel and never watch the videos again (and as far as I can tell, you're right, Anon; Profit and Ad Revenue goes off of the view count, not subscriber count)

No. 868870

I think she's way past the point of caring about keeping her audience

No. 868871


I don't know - The days she took the hardest hit to her twitter followers are followed by the days she would publicly lose her shit. Like Friday (the day after a 191 twitter follower loss) is when she backtracked and did the whole "I'll donate to charity - look how good of a person I am, PSYCH NO I WILL NOT DONATE FUCK OFF" bit.

No. 868872

File: 1568536818497.png (103.84 KB, 745x614, Capture d’écran 2019-09-15 à…)

His Youtube channel is doing great, he's almost back to 900K and climbing. No idea how someone can look at this and honestly say cancel culture harms online personalities. The only people harmed by cancel culture are regular people who get "cancelled" by people way more famous than them.

No. 868875


They scream about "Cancel Culture!" because they know it is a rallying cry for their fanbase who are too fucking stupid to realize that they're being played. Jared threw his former friends under the bus at the first fucking chance (talking about how his former friends were so mean to him in his video or whatever), what makes these fans think he won't do the same shit to them in the blink of an eye?

Heidi ain't perfect and has handled certain aspects of this shitshow in a less-than-stellar fashion - but jesus christ, she's lightyears better than the people who are attacking the minors instead of the dude who possessed (possesses?) their nudes, scream "HEIDI DID THIS FOR PROFIT AND TWITTER FOLLOWERS!" and then make a clothing line off of this exact situation for financial profit less than three months later.

No. 869109

In Holly's stream from the other day:


If you go to 25:00 mins in, her friend makes a joke about sending Holly a cursed item to her house and Jared being the one who accidentally opens the box.

Not really sure how to interpret Holly's reaction to that…? Bit of a reach, but imo she had every opportunity to flaunt the situation of them living together. Instead she got awkward and overlooked the statement. With how Side-Ho has been shrieking about tru wuv and how deserving she is of Jared, it was an odd reaction? Even if she didn't want to stir drama about Jared on stream, talking about him living with her would just fuel her narrative of big mean ol' Heidi denying his star crossed lover feelings for her.

It's hard to tell if they are essentially living together now or if if Jared plans for them to move in together. It almost seems like Holly has been telling all her friends they are going to… Wonder if he is aware of that.

No. 869115


> "Jared being the one who accidentally opens the box."

I'd be pissed if my side piece of just a few months thought it appropriate to open my mail. If it were for you bro, I'd have fucking told you - until then stay the fuck out of someone else's mail.

> "Instead she got awkward and overlooked the statement"

Because she only wants to flaunt PedoDick when she feels like SHE can control the situation or use it profit or bother Heidi. Maybe she figures it'll fuck up his divorce with Heidi if it comes out that he's already living with her or spending the majority of his time staying at her place.

> "Even if she didn't want to stir drama about Jared on stream"

She used him and his drama to further pubicize her shitty clothing - and pops into his twitch stream on the regular. I'd say she doesn't give a fuck about talking about him on stream/publicly.

No. 869118

Or it's called depression and self-doubt? Something people suffer from and Austin is known to have suffered from? Not everything is linked to jared, surprisingly.

No. 869201

File: 1568603324713.png (326.9 KB, 594x688, jaredstan.png)

lmao what the fuck…

Heidi's response here is golden.

No. 869204

File: 1568603766096.png (365.1 KB, 586x696, jaredstan1.png)


"I harassed someone on twitter & they replied! BAITED! lmao"

No. 869207

Amazing how so many of pedidick's incel fan base will reee at every chance about how terrible Heidi is but will make threats and shit like this saying how they'll force her to say things they want to hear. Heidi is such a fucking champ at handling this autism.

>a brony gloating about getting a response on twitter and calling it bait
How embarrassing.

No. 869209

I don't think this person is even a fan of "Jared Knauber", as they've hilariously mangled his last name. Just another misogynist who'll take any excuse to harass a woman.

No. 869211

>insane serial killer message with explicit threats
>thinking they “got” Heidi and made her look bad because she called their insane post insane
Jared defense business as usual. The men who agree with his actions are all so transparent.

No. 869218

is this person like 15 or just ESL as fuck?

>jared knauber


No. 869221


> "Admit your sins"

Jesus Christ, the incels have apparently progressed into full Jigsaw mindset now.

> "being socially manipulative"

The irony is so thick. Let's for a second remember ProPedo's attempt at looking sad as fuck for his video, and then smiling and laughing on his stream the very next goddamned day.

> "We will make you confess your sins in any way, shape or form possible"

So, they're now just openly threatening Heidi with harm and god knows what else.

"BuT hE SaId tO LeAvE hEiDi AlOnE!!1!!"

No. 869224


Honestly, they're going beyond misogyny at this point and into full "I'm fucking insane and I'm going to shoot up a walmart while screaming "JARED IS INNOCENT!!!!!"" territory.

No. 869226

File: 1568605875818.png (30.78 KB, 586x300, heidihate.png)

Compare/Contrast to how Jared & Holly deal with hate.

…And if Heidi really is a liar, then she's a damn good one.

No. 869231

one of the thousand ironies of all this:

Crazy Denica from Bulgaria and Wacky Wiklr from the philippines both profess to be feminists while spending 14 hours a day whipping up incel hate-mobs with lies

It's like if "It's a small world" for screeching feminists and frustrated internet rapists

No. 869233

Gotta love how the only words on that incel's bio are "show love to everyone".

No. 869234


By everyone, they just mean those they deem worthy and clearly Heidi is an evil whore that is u deserving in their eyes (but they’re a okay backing propedo and his mistress)

No. 869236



don't put him in a box ok

No. 869238

File: 1568607894301.png (53.84 KB, 578x340, pony.png)

>"People're allowed to feel how they want."

…Except Heidi, of course.

No. 869245

File: 1568609816851.png (43.92 KB, 582x280, ponywtf.png)


I'm beginning to think these people require a translator or something what with all the mental gymnastics they perform whilst building their walls of text…

No. 869248

File: 1568610234439.png (28.87 KB, 582x302, ponywtf2.png)


You can 'help' Jared by not acting like a moron on Twitter. Just sayin…

Ok, enough of this guy, his tweets are just sad to read.

No. 869249


He contradicts himself so many times in his tweets.

I honestly don't know what he thought the outcome of his HILARIOUS message was. That Jared was going to thank him? What a moron.

No. 869250

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No. 869252

Its clear how much this stipid bitch wishes she was Critical Role. She really has that little going for her

No. 869253

If DCA mean that much to you, maybe you should have kept it in your pants

No. 869254


This is incredibly unhealthy. Hoelly really needs some serious therapy.

She has no one to blame but herself.

No. 869255

I can't help but laught. What did this stupid bitch think was going to happen? Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

No. 869257

File: 1568610898330.png (65.93 KB, 578x574, ponywtf3.png)


He @'d Jared several times before even posting that to Heidi, & he keeps doing it.

>"I want to see @ProJared succeed as a YouTuber."

He already did, and he used that success to get his fans to do whatever he wants. He's not some little guy who just stumbled into Youtube fame. He's been building his career & fanbase for about a decade.

No. 869258

File: 1568611103424.png (63.21 KB, 585x526, ss (2019-09-16 at 12.18.13).pn…)

Is this what she thinks of herself? No wonder she took such an internet beating for jared. Good lord.

No. 869259


How are there actually people like this in real life?


No. 869261


she desperately has to find someone to relate to because it's all she has. She's crying over fictional characters, my god. This woman is like a teenage emo kid talking about bands saving her life or some shit.

also do not smear dark crystal or deet with your mental problems, Holly. They are nothing like you or Strix.

No. 869262


Her and Jared have both retweeted or liked posts talking about Anna/Evelyn in the last few days. They honestly think if they talk about it enough, it will magically come to fruition.

No. 869263


Don’t fall for it, Anon. It’s just another one of Hoellys woe is me pity parties

No. 869265

She has such a huge martyr complex.
I bet she's one of those people who genuinely believe that being an empath is a real thing and every bad think that happens in her life is because she's "here to heal broken people uwu".
Bitch needs to get over herself.

No. 869266

File: 1568611915935.png (52.89 KB, 578x328, nomorednd.png)

Chris supposedly wants to 'retire' from all this allegedly.

Because if they talk about it enough, then their fans will browbeat & even potentially harass Anna, Nate, & Chris to come back & keep sponsoring their fantasies.

No. 869267

oh my fucking god this grown ass adult is mentally stuck in high school in a borderline creepy way

this is just her usual schtick, it's exactly what she did with etika:
>someone being harassed to death "with emoji spam" = my suffering uwu
>a character taking all the darkness into herself = my suffering uwu
degrade yourself some more bitch lmao i'm living

also inb4 she starts spamming that stupid petition link again kek

No. 869268

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Sounds like she would identify more with Dark Dungeons given her personality

No. 869269


I’m wiling to bet (tinfoil of course) that the reason Hoelly is pushing so hard is because her relationship with PedoDick is already stale. They’ve ran the gamut of weird Diath/Strix role play shit morphed to life, and now since they aren’t able to actively RP them, they’re running out of “storylines” to keep their relationship fresh and new.

No. 869271


The responses to this tweet are ridiculous.
Just the same delusional WKs saying "Anna, Chris and Holly are still on good speaking terms with each other though!"

Okay cool. Doesn't mean they're gonna magically turn back a couple pages & just pick up where they left off.


I think Jared gets a thrill from doing something scandalous 'in plain sight', but having enough power & influence behind him to get away with it.
Many threads ago I remember reading something about him admitting to jacking off to nudes while live-streaming or something like that, along with him being an exhibitionist.

And now that the mystique is gone, so is the thrill of it all.

No. 869273

Initially though there was no reason for her to NOT continue being Strix, but then she sperged too hard on twitter and now I'm sure people don't want to associate with her hardcore martyr complex and defending someone who abuses their power to solicit nudes

No. 869274


Thing is, she's not even close to being a martyr.
She wants to be a martyr, but her actions are too selfish & she hurts others much much more than she has ever hurt herself.

No. 869277


That’s part of it, too. Homewrecker fails to realize that had she just kept her mouth shut rather than trying to a martyr for her potentially pedo, emotionally abusive dick of a fling, she could have continued on being Strix until this whole shit show passed and Jared was (probably) eventually allowed to return. The whole thing would have blown over by now - but she opens her mouth at every chance instead of just shutting the fuck up for five minutes.

No one is going to want to hitch their wagon to Hoelly and PedoWorm, so to speak, at the risk of losing THEIR careers when Holly decides to publicly lose her shit the next time.

No. 869278

any idea on how jared's streams are doing lately? is he still getting massive donations like that one time?

No. 869280

I'm sure she doesn't see it that way though, especially based on her tweets. She's just defending hersef and Jared against the eeeevil Heidi! Taking the brunt of the abuse while he stayed totally silent for months! That's normal! I'm sure she sees herself as a martyr in THAT regard, but fuck everyone else's feelings according to her, apparently.

No. 869282

File: 1568613938272.jpg (51.48 KB, 680x584, f7b.jpg)


This is basically how she saw herself for the past couple months.

No. 869284

>the silent protector

No. 869285

It just amuses me that Heidi gets whatever the fuck that dude earlier was, and MAGICALLY at that same moment, Hoelly wants to post a “woe is me, DCA is gone because of my own actions” series of tweets, and yet people STILL refuse to see how fucking manipulative she is being….

No. 869286

I just…. She could just get a home group going…
Or even run her own D&D stream..
Or does she need the DCA stanning and official support from WOTC to feel fulfilled?

No. 869292


>Or does she need the DCA stanning and official support from WOTC to feel fulfilled?

That's probably it.

No. 869293

>Having friends
Pick one

No. 869294

This is a level of autism heretofore unseen.

No. 869296

>those who spread gospels
Does this little freak think Jared is the second coming of Jesus? Crawling out from under the rubble his vengeful wife collapsed on him, he yet liveth and forgiveth us all!

Who’s going to write and draw porn of her if she doesn’t have an audience?

No. 869297

I mean… She has some. Kayla. Jessica Merizan. Bluejay from Adam Koebbel's games. Some WOTC people seem to consider her a friend.
She never seems like a good friend herself but still.

No. 869301


> "She never seems like a good friend herself"

Because she isn't one. She is the "Friend" that takes and takes and takes and offers nothing in return except false promises ("I'll stop, I swear") and lies ("I only called you abusive because I have PTSD and I was upset…..but YOU GUYS HEIDI IS TOTALLY AN ABUSIVE PIECE OF SHIT!!!")

No. 869305

Sure she could do that, but it's never going to be that of that caliber and quality. Dungeon Masters are hard to find to start a game, and good dungeon Masters are even rarer. Hoelly had the privelage to play DnD with one of the best DM's in the world which is the only real reason DCA was any good. All the players and their characters were boring or played out. Wow your bard character isna drunk?! How fun and original! Oh wowie, he breaks the fourth wall all the time because his player doesnt know how to actually be funny, sounds riveting! A rouge with a mysterious dark past but would do anything for his friends, jeeze I've never played a video game so that sounds completely non derivative to me! A gross witch who does nothing but scream shes scared or cry…okay I cant even spin that one.
Having Chris Perkins as your DM is like saying you miss having meals with your family but your actual family are boring losers who only ate at 5 star restaurants together.

No. 869307

I hate to use the word cringe, but this is the worst cringe I've gotten in a LONG time. Like , yeeeesh.
Even take away everything pathetic about this, the guy completely forgets that the first thing you experience in Persona 5 is LITERALLY a man sexually assaulting a woman and getting away with it

No. 869308

>Amazing how so many of pedidick's incel fan base will reee at every chance about how terrible Heidi is

People literally does this to Holly and Jared even when they're not saying or doing anything suspect. They even do it to people known to be friends or used to be friends with them.

Why is it surprising people would treat Heidi the same way?

No. 869315


> “they even do it to friends of them”

You mean like the horde of PedoDick stans that openly tracked down and revealed the identity of Heidis LDR (who had NOTHING to do with the scandal) and harassed them until they pretty much went offline?

No. 869318

She can just commission it, wouldn't be the first time!

No. 869319

but anon without the DCA streams the money's running low uwu!! do you want her to go back to being a barista? do you?

No. 869322


Not blaming Perkins for Jared and Holly, but at the same time quite a few other DMs would have outright rejected a romance plot/sub plot just because of the potential for this kind of shit happening. I'm also of the mindset that the entire DCA crew knew about those two screwing around, possibly for much longer than the current timeline suggests, an enabled that through the role playing.

No. 869324


There’s no way that they DIDNT know - going to conventions and spending so much time together, Hoelly surely would have let something slip, she’s about as discrete as a zit on the forehead of a hormonal teenager.

No. 869326


For someone with "nothing to do with the scandal" he was pretty happy stanning Heidi and claiming in public he had inside information for the first two weeks before KF doxed him

No. 869327

“Look what YOU’VE done, if only I could bring DCA back.”

There she goes again, trying to manipulate people into feeling sorry for her instead of realising her own actions caused this.

Does she really believe WotC will feel sorry for her and bring back DCA because she’s upset that her and Jared’s behaviour had repercussions?

No. 869332

Being an empath is a real thing, anon. Thing is, you have to care about the feelings of others to be one. Holly only cares about herself.

No. 869333


> “He was pretty happy stanning Heidi”

Yeah, because they were close friends and they (I don’t know what pronouns this person uses) had wanted to support their ex.

By “nothing to do with the scandal”, I meant that they were not cheating on their spouse (like Hoelly or Jared) and that their actions didn’t lead to the breakup or play a role in the child porn allegations.

Their existence is a side note to the scandal - They were not a key player.

> “before kf doxxed”

Gee, I wonder why someone might shut the fuck up after being doxxed by the Galaxy brained “geniuses” over at kiwi farms….

No. 869335

Nobody cares about your fake-ass martyr tears, Holly. YOU DID THIS TO YOURSELF. This is called consequences.

Also kek at her whining on all melodramatic like a teenage emo goth on Twitter instead of getting uwu speshul support uwu from her adultery partner boyfriend. Can't get Jared's attention any other way, huh, Holly? Has he lost interest in you already?

No. 869336

That's just regular old being empathic.

No. 869337

what the actual fuck, weebs are insane
why would you do this

No. 869347

this just proves the internet is filled with neckbeards who dont give a shit about the truth. Jared is a disgusting person and still gaining views despite being found as a serial liar and cheater.

This bitch is 32 years old. rofl if d&d was so important, maybe dont cheat and screw over your married friend? she deserves all of this

No. 869348

This is exactly what i think as well. Jared loved that thrill and scandal and now that everything has been brought to light, he's bored. he's a typical dude who loves the thrill of cheating but not being caught, because then the game is over.

Holly just has no life outside of roleplaying and being a bird lady.

No. 869356

>I just…. She could just get a home group going…
>Or even run her own D&D stream..

Jared wouldn't even join lmao

No. 869366

Also keep in mind, he was shutting down keemstar, correcting misrepresenting articles, and arguing with Denica’s claims she did this for fame. It’s not like he was going around telling his own stories about how terrible Jared is. He was backing up a friend that wasn’t near as famous as her husband.
I wouldn’t describe him as a gd stan.

No. 869376

Boohoo, you lost your larpy pastime.

You ruined someone's marriage.

It's your and Jared's faults. You deserve to suffer.

No. 869403

Screenshots of people behaving exactly like this towards Hoelly, Pedodick, or Company? You seem to have forgotten to hit “choose file”

No. 869421

They definitely weren’t subtle. I can’t find the screenshot, but people have seen them kiss at cons, and the four DCA PCs posted a lot of double date looking photos.

I doubt roleplaying as Strix in private is very fulfilling to her. Strix is such a self insert, it’s basically her acting her normal boring self. It’s the fan cheering that actually makes it fun.

IMO, the point of Holly and co outing him to harassment was probably to keep him quiet about what he did know. Heidi leaned on him for emotional support after all.

No. 869426

No one's stopping Holly from playing D&D (more's the pity) - she's just feelig oh so victimized because the thing she used to define herself and get her attention fix with is suddeny gone as a consequence of her own damn actions.

And boy does Holly just hate consequences especially when they cost her something she feels she is entitled to. (Compare and contrast with how she absolutely tossed a wobbler at Heidi being "uh could you not have fucked my husband behind my back??")

No. 869427

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>"And the sad part is, you're really the only one still harping on about this."

Yeah, how DARE Heidi defend herself from this thinly-veiled threat!!!

It sucks that she can't even defend herself without getting shit on for "harping on" about something that deeply affected her.

Also, who wants to bet this putz has said this same thing to Jared?

Getting real tired of people bitching at Heidi for venting & making chiding tweets at her to "move on already!".

Why don't you just mute/block her & 'move on' yourselves?
…Or are you keeping an eye on her & waiting with bated breath for her to fuck up?

No. 869428

>keep whiteknight posting to when they actually spill milk

No. 869435

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Works like a charm!

(Also lmao at thinking WOTC is gonna take her & Jared back)

No. 869445

Yes, retweet her acting like the unstable train wreck she is. That will surely convince wotc that she is someone they want representing their company.

A shame she hasn’t seemed to realise that emotional manipulation won’t work on corporations. Every nutty tweet she makes is another nail in Strix’s coffin.

No. 869469

I wonder if Jared calls hers or Strix's name when he fucks her.

No. 869505

I hope they say the characters names cus those must be the clunkiest sound to moan, can you imagine? Lmao

No. 869511

Wow, I'm sure that tweet really convinced them to change their minds.

The fans may want DCA back, but they've failed to realise that WotC has no need for them at all after this.

DCA was just a marketing tool that will now always be linked to this mess - it's also likely that Holly and Jared broke their contracts by disregarding their professional boundaries. Of course this is all Heidi's fault, Holly and Jared would have gotten away with it if it weren't for his meddling wife!

No. 869525

Yeah, the timeslot of DCA has already been filled for a while with a show promoting WOTC's non-RPG gaming efforts.

Now if only WOTC could get around to tell their staff peoples to stop professionally associating with these sex pests.

No. 869529

I’m so offended Holly has the audacity to say Deet reminds her of Strix.

She wishes. Deet doesn’t shriek or flail around and is an actually well written and well thought out character.

Strix is a terrible self insert showcasing how truly uncreative and up her own ass Holly is. I can’t believe people actually liked Strix.

No. 869540

I'm not surprised by some fans liking Strix. Some Hoelly stans can relate to Hoelly's and her self-insert's emotional immaturity and/or probably have a similar personality to Hoelly and/or like Hoelly's idealized version of herself as Strix. I'm not surprised by the amount of adults who don't have a healthy separation of their reality and escapism in several fandoms.

No. 869557


Strix was the anti-pretty girl, the wallflower, etc. That's enough for homely girls to like her.

No. 869592

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“Cancel culture doesn’t leave room for redemption”

Hoelly, you don’t deserve redemption for fucking around with a married man behind both his wife’s and your husband’s backs.

If you’re talking about PedoWorm, he doesn’t DESERVE redemption for abusing his power to get nudes of fans, INCLUDING LITERAL MINORS, you pedophile supporting piece of fucking trash.

No. 869594

Why is she liking this, when Holly isn't correcting any behavior and neither is Jared?
Holly never said sorry for homewrecking, Jared never said sorry for obtaining fan nudes and is probably still doing it.

No. 869600

Being a homewrecker doesn't mean you are bad person, the problem is Hoelly keeps acting like a spoiled brat that is unable to self-reflect. She probably has never felt any remorse for her actions towards others because of her lack of empathy. How can Hoelly and PedoWorm ever have a redemption if they both constantly tell everyone they didn't do anything wrong? It's kinda weird to ask for forgiveness if you are telling everyone you didn't do nothing under the same breath.

No. 869602

That's just the thing though. She acted deliberately & with the full-intent of destroying a marriage because things weren't moving along fast enough for her.

She knows what she did & why she did it. She's just afraid to actually admit it.

No. 869603

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Oh yeah, you're totally not stalking Heidi's page & sifting through her likes or anything, Holly!

No. 869605

I don’t think she’s “afraid” to admit her mistakes. She’d have to see them as mistakes for that. Holly has consistently framed this clusterfuck as Heidi being an unfixable, vindictive bitch, and that she and Jared did absolutely nothing wrong. Even now, she tweets “I don’t know the rumours. I don’t know what people are talking about? I don’t know what you think I did wrong, but it’s not true.”

This isn’t fear. This is deliberate “I am totally innocent and have been wronged.”

No. 869628


So Heidi is a fan of cancel culture? LoL

No. 869632

It's meant to be a Persona 5 reference. A really terrible, cringe-worthy one.

No. 869646


I think it’s just a poke at Hoelly constantly screaming that Heidi has been trying to cancel her and Jared when, in reality, the only thing that has been happening to them is rightful criticism for being fucking idiots.

No. 869660


that like isn't even there anymore it's all just 100s of likes about her dnd game and birds. wtf do you mean constantly screaming, has she posted anything that actually is directed at Heidi again?

No. 869662

Remember that shirt she made?

No. 869665


So now we are directly saying Heidi = Cancelled? And the tshirt thing was like 2 weeks ago, even before Heidi's stream. People started whining about it, but I am seriously not sure why Heidi would be doubling down that the tshirt is about her? Is she saying she cancelled him but it was deserved? WTF is going on?

No. 869671

She's saying Holly and Jared are using the cover of "cancel culture" to make themselves look like victims of the torrent of backlash Heidi started by speaking up, rather than two people who did shitty things and had to deal with the consequences. She's not saying it's about herself in any way, she's just been vocal about pointing out Jared and Holly's attempts at manipulating public opinion with underhanded tactics like this. Her liking a tweet about the shitty things her ex is doing is hardly inserting herself as the adversary in the situation, despite past attempts by Jared and Holly to demonize her and cast her as such.

No. 869685


Heidi spoke against cancel culture at the start of it so it obvious she saw the connection then. And now she is liking tweet saying that cancel culture is just consequences after having a pinned tweet about consequences for months (but not anymore?). You got to be in big denial or ignorance of how cancel culture works to not see her speaking up and the cancelling being connected, but to me it seems that she was more like the spark and cancel culture is the flame that burned their careers down.

>Her liking a tweet about the shitting things her ex is doing is hardly inserting herself as the adversary in the situation,

but somehow Holly doing the same thing is. I just don't get it anymore.

No. 869699

Hoelly's fucking career isn't over and she isn't even cancelled, she can still work for WotC if she wanted to. PedoWorm is "winning", is getting subs back and isn't cancelled either? So what did Heidi really do? No one gives a shit that PedoWorm cheated.

No. 869702


Isn't cancelled .. anymore. Isn't that the point of that fucking tshirt?

No. 869712

I don't know what the point of Hoelly's shirt is other than to make money. You are asking me to try to understand what goes on in her brain? If I had to guess, Hoelly thinks she got cancelled, but appearantly doesnt seem like it.

No. 869811


"Cancel Culture" is now being treated as a buzzword & a rally-cry for famous people after they do something they know they'll be criticized for, & it's usually invoked out of fear of losing their fans/audience.
So it's basically a panic-button.


>If I had to guess, Hoelly thinks she got cancelled, but appearantly doesnt seem like it.

Sort of. She keeps flip-flopping between "I didn't do it!" to "Everyone makes mistakes!!! Let's learn to forgive again!!! uwu"

No. 869815


She keeps insisting that she "Did nothing wrong!" then keeps begging for/preaching about "forgiveness".

If she's begging people to forgive Jared that's a bit…patronizing to say the least. Like Jared made a mistake, but she didn't, so Jared is the only one who needs to be 'forgiven'. Like she's 'better' than him…

(sage for tinfoil at the end)

No. 869895

Its really not that confusing anon, read the thread instead of having people spoonfeed you. Everyone already knows what hoellys shirt is about, self-pity.

No. 869906


Heidi liked the tweet because Hoelly and Jared are hiding behind the term "cancel culture" instead of admitting that they fucked up and this is backlash for their actions.
They're trying to redirect blame to "the big bad internet mob" that Heidi "unleashed" on them. Sarcasm if that wasn't obvious, I know it's hard to read anon.

Heidi isn't pro cancel culture. Hoelly and Jared aren't even cancelled, Jared lost what, 200k subs when it came out? He still had 700k+ BEFORE the "redeption" (cringe) video and gained some back. He STILL had a huge following.
Hoelly can't be cancelled because she wasn't relevant in the first place. The only thing she did was suck Jared's dick on stream while roleplaying and pretending it was totally not their self inserts.

No. 869974

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Telling her "fans" to disregard the CDC instructions to not hug chickens - A+ being a public figure, Hoelly. You CLEARLY know more about not spreading avian illness than the fucking Center for Disease Control

No. 869975

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Sage for not being on topic, but it looks like KT finally got herself blocked by her BELOVED and his wife and is raising money for streaming equipment to 'right the wrongs' they have been spreading by auctioning their memories. I hope she gets the money so I can witness this shit show with popcorn in hand.

No. 869976

>i wouldn't date you but lets so fuck

No. 869978

File: 1568782066792.png (46.67 KB, 586x380, fyou.png)

No. 869979

honestly the biggest kek is that KT thinks she's relevant at all anymore given literally anything else happening around her

No. 869982


> "This isn't a cock it's a chicken"

Imagine being a self-admitted bird lady and not knowing that "cock" is another word for chicken.

> "I'm so done with this harassment shit"

So let me continue to only reply to the negative comments rather than acknowledging the nice ones. YOU STICK IT TO 'EM, HOELLY!

She's back on the "This is harassment, like those clown emojis!" trait, while Heidi is getting literal death and rape threats, including yesterday's "We will force you to confess your sins however necessary) threats.

No. 869985

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"This isn't a cock it's a chicken"

No. 869986

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Why the fuck does she always make stupid fucking faces - and then has the guts to pull the "WHY DOESN'T ANYONE LIKE ME?" card???

No. 869989

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That's her come hither face for PedoWorm.

No. 869990


Well, he DID like that tweet of hers - and he WAS willing to throw his relatively good looking wife to the side to fuck a bridge troll….

No. 870000

Holly in a few weeks: cancel culture gave me salmonella!

No. 870038


so a hen is a chicken that isn't a cock lol. Do we even know the sex of her fucking chicken, is this what the milk is right now?

p.s. probably her chickens are too young to be sexed yet, they are not showing any signs which might be why it is incorrect to call them either hen or rooster at this point.

No. 870041

Holly's meltdowns almost made me forget who the TRUE psycho queen of these threads is.

No. 870043

You can sex chickens when they're still chicks. That is an adult bird. The point other anon was making is that she didn't say it was a hen, she said it was a chicken. Roosters and hens are both chickens, like stallions and mares are both horses. I can't believe I'm explaining this shit, sorry mods.

No. 870052


They are not adult but she already named them Sage and Freya so likely no cocks involved.

No. 870065

cock is a male chicken, chicken is female iirc
she's saying it's a female bird, not a male one.

looks like you're the dummy here anon

No. 870074

Can we stop sperging about the fucking chickens and get back on topic?

No. 870094


TBH KT is why I check this thread on the reg. I just know one day there will be a milksplosion and it'll be glorious. I hope she gets the money and starts streaming!

No. 870097

Why would anyone fabricate a marriage? I understand what suZY gets out of it, financially speaking but arin? They've been together for so long lol, that's quite the commitment to a ruse. Is she implying suzy is arin's beard?

No. 870112

>I do play dungeons and dragons
Not anymore you don't, kek

No. 870122

I think Arin's made it very clear he's bisexual (or at least attracted to men), I don't think he'd use Suzy as a beard, in fact i wouldn't be surprised if she was pegging his ass or if they had threesomes or something.

No. 870126

Has he? When did that happen? To my knowledge he's always denied being attracted to men, he says he's just in touch with his feminine side and he likes to joke about it

No. 870127

I think anon is referencing the ep where Arin talks about the ldr he had with another male for awhile when he was much younger and said he could have seen himself dating the guy.

No. 870130

Wow, do you know what episode that was?

No. 870131

Found it! Firered episode 91 around the 4 min mark

No. 870134

That and he's told a story about jacking it to a friend, maybe I jumped a gun calling him "bisexual" but he may just be one of those people who doesn't put a name on it.

he could find men attractive but not be bisexual or act on it.

He's with Suzy & I think he may just find men attractive.

He just seems to be very open about it.

No. 870137

I do think he is bi, but as I said he's denied it quite a few times so I was wondering if I missed a turning point, like I missed the point where he went from straight edge - never tried weed - never got drunk to smoking and drinking regularly

No. 870150

Oh yeah! He also says just before that that he doesn't think he may be bi anymore. It's an interesting conversation.
I mean, even if he is bi, that doesn't mean his love for Suzy is fake or he would be unhappy with monogamy. There are plenty of bi people in happy monogamous relationships with someone of the opposite gender, even some who have never dated people of the same gender. So him realizing he's bi wouldn't mean he'd need to break up with Suzy or sleep with anyone else, it's just recognizing an attraction. So I don't think his marriage is holding him back from a realization like that.

No. 870159


I'd never heard of KT before finding this series of threads. While there is a possibility she's telling the truth about her history with Arin—which to be clear, I don't believe—it's been 10+ years now, right? Move the hell on. People are giving Heidi shit for dredging up her "drama" each time her abusers speak on an issue that's only months old, yet this woman is spouting off on her own, with no provocation from Arin or Suzy years later.

Just…big yikes, girl. Actually devote time to a hobby, maybe.

No. 870162

100% agree.

No. 870191

He’s told a story about jacking it to a friend? I know that he told a story about jacking it with his friend sleeping very close by, but that seemed more like a pubescent hormone thing than attraction.

No. 870221

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Someone replied to this tweet saying "It's okay, he's not married" and this must have triggered Hoelly as she replied with this now-deleted tweet.

No. 870231


So I guess we're back to the internet self-harm stage again.

No. 870232

You seem to enjoy it, Holly. Can you dish it out but not take it?

No. 870236

I appreciate this zinger, and I love that it bothered her so much.

No. 870264

Jared's back to pimp his twitch, claiming he's done nothing but stream lately because "I haven't been able to play video games for four months" not "I'm cashing in on my infamy".

Dude, nobody was keeping you from video games the past four months, only from playing them in exchange for profit and nudes.

No. 870271

I guess fabricating a video to slander minors and his ex-wife took up all his video game time.

No. 870292

How does he manage to look more haggard and old here than in his carefully crafted "you've been lied to" vid? Holly must be taking her toll on him.

No. 870293

File: 1568844941152.jpg (368.49 KB, 1200x800, distractedjared.jpg)

My thanks to >>869986 and >>869989 for the inspiration.

No. 870294

Pfffft, that's awesome, anon.

No. 870296

I'm pretty sure that tweet is about the Shane Gillis thing and she liked it because she thinks it's bad to be racist about Asian people… look at the timing. not everything is about Jared/Holly drama (unfortunately, because it's hilarious)

No. 870300

Ah yes, it's that carefree "Screw the rules! Do what u wanna do! uwu" attitude that got her into this mess in the first place

No. 870319

He looks so rancid.

No. 870342

I've never seen 100% of comments on a youtube video cocksuck somebody so hard

No. 870343


> “haven’t been able to play for four months”

Why the fuck not? There was nothing but his own embarrassment to stop him. Nobody held a gun to his head and said “you better stay the fuck off of the internet, motherfucker.”

No. 870344


That’s definitely gotta be next thread pic

No. 870345

Like it or not, he's not exactly wrong. When dealing with legal stuff/lawyers/law enforcement you don't exactly have the free time you normally do. Especially if your situation is public domain.

This is why people with following 'drop off the face of the earth' or get extremely quiet, not because they're hiding but because if they're ACTUALLY going through the right channels, you're kind of told what you can/can't do.

So while it's unlikely he was told "NO VIDYA GAMES", it's part of his hobby and who he is as a content creator, any firm worth their salt would tell him to focus on more important matters.

No. 870349


Unless he had meetings with lawyers 24/7 for those four months, there’s no excuse and still nothing keeping him from carving even an hour a day to play a video game. It’s an easy “poor me! Pity me!” rallying cry by acting like it’s just one more think that Evil Heidi ruined.

No. 870357

He looks like he aged in dog years, damn

No. 870368


Eh, don't worry. People will get bored of him soon enough.

Also his newest fans will probably ditch him once election season comes around & they find out both he & Holly are both virtue-signaling liberals.

No. 870412

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When do you think they’ll realize that they “screwed the pooch” so to speak, and that no fucking petition is going to convince the powers that be to bring back DCA - especially not since we all know it’ll just be a weird fetish delivery system for he and Hoelly?

No. 870413

I wonder how many signatures a "Don't bring back DCA because of Jared/Holly" or "Bring Back DCA but without Holly/Jared" petition would get…

No. 870422

How long till you guys get to vote and hopefully get cheeto flavoured nazi out of office?(political ot)

No. 870423


Next year - 2020

No. 870424

I know sincerity is banned on these type of forums, but i hope everything turns out ok and you dont end up dying for not being able to pay for an ear infection or something.

To stay on topic… Uuuu… Jareds dick still look weird huh

No. 870456


Can't be that weird if Heidi was married to it for 5 years.

No. 870464


Did you manage to make it through without seeing his dick? Shit is weird as hell

No. 870465

To be honest I've never seen a dick that was attractive on its own. Like, you can want the dick for the person attached to it, but dicks themselves are just weird flesh mushrooms

No. 870481

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On what fucking planet do we live on when people are genuinely defending him like he didn't fucking know that he was going to get underage nude photos with his largely underage fucking fanbase.

"Well she lied about her age"
No fucking shit you absolute moron I'm sorry you were too busy thinking with your cock to realize that most of your viewers are gonna be underage.

No. 870484

Ross just streamed himself doing a Dancing Queen karaoke. Once a gem, always a gem. Holly is still a moron for giving that gem up.

No. 870487

Not sure if same story, but he told one about about being in a "D Club" where they regularly met up to jack off and play swords together. Dan was so flabbergasted he immediately left the room to ask Suzy to confirm. She did by the way, though added it wasn't a gay thing. Bless her sweet in denial heart.

No. 870493


Um, ain't that a bit weird followup on a visit to his sick mom?

No. 870496

Funny you bring that up. He literally just talked about how stressful the chemo treatment has been on them so far. "There's a reason I'm getting super drunk in Japan".

No. 870514

Considering what >>870496 said, it’s probably just him blowing off steam and trying to maintain some levity in his streams - talking abt your mom’s cancer and her going thru chemo is rough and can be a real bummer even if you’re not involved in the situation, so it could be him trying to cheer himself and his audience up. idk, Ross seems like a decent guy (knock on wood) who cares abt his audience and maintaining a persona of sorts, so it seems plausible.

No. 870516


None of the D club stories involved jacking it to each other though. The furthest they got was a half-chub sword fight.

They sound like teenage boys acting like teenage boys.

No. 870518

The same pathetic fanboys (and oddly some girls) that are demanding everyone watch Jared’s video claim he disproved things he either admitted to (taking advantage of his fans) or didn’t touch on with any facts (cheating). It’s like they didn’t even… watch the whole video.

No. 870520


Oh, they watched the video, but like Jared and Holly, they are cherrypicking and clinging to a particular brand of interpretation. They'd already been spouting these conclusions all summer; Jared echoing their decisions is all they heard in the video.

No. 870522

I firmly believe he waited for fan response and theorizing before he made the video. His video lined up with PJ2’s claims a bit too perfectly.

No. 870527

As someone with sons, I assure you, that isn't how teenage boys act.

No. 870528


Yeah, how fucking dare he not wallow in pity and despair?? /s

The guy has been dealing with his very sick mom and wanted to blow off some steam. Cut him some slack.

No. 870530

He's in a tough spot, I'm glad he's able to relax and have fun, forget all the shitty stuff for an evening

No. 870542

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What even is their marketing plan at this point?

(Sage for no real milk)

No. 870546

Uwu quirky pity points apparently

No. 870557

Pewds mentions Jared in his newest video (7:29 onwards), seems to believe in Jared's "apology" video. Not that his opinion matters specifically, but it's kinda disheartening to think that most of his subscribes will be likely to accept this without questioning anything.

No. 870575


As somebody who grew up with brothers, I assure you you don’t know what your boys behave like when you aren’t around. I can also promise you that they will leave your sight.

No. 870579

sexual experimentation happens with both genders. i dont think your sons are gonna invite you to the D club meetings.

No. 870584

I'm just disgusted by the amount of positive press he's getting for the incredible achievement of "not being 100% as bad as we initially thought". People like Keemstar and Pewdiepie have massive followings and are getting him so much exposure that he earned by… Having a sex scandal and then casting some doubt on two of the many allegations. Stand-up guy right there. He'll be back to a million in no time and will get to go on as if nothing even happened, but MuH cAnCeL CuLTuRe

No. 870590

Well, I think it was very smart wagging of the dog on his part. He spent what….40 mins? going in depth on like 2 things really and was convincing that those 2 things were false. He addressed those things as THE things that were the issue, when really the issue is the 20 OTHER things. By fully unpacking those issues, it made him seem like he was being honest and upfront and open, when really it was lying by omission and diversion.

It's like if OJ made a 45 minute youtube video of him trying on the gloves and explaining why and how they don't fit. If he shows that one piece of evidence is "false" and doesn't acknowledge the hundred other pieces of evidence there is, then it looks like that's the ONLY evidence they have and he just proved them wrong.

No. 870593

It blows my mind how many people fuck with Keemstar or even listen to anything he says. He's a horrible person.

I guess they are too. We must remember men stick together especially if they are burying a woman.

No. 870595

Very good analogy. If any of the accusers have had any cognitive issues then that means you must acquit.

No. 870603

That imbecile was already ready to believe them before Holly did her first unprivating and immediately voiced support for the truthfulness of her claims, of course he's going to take Jared's side.

No. 870613

Just adding to what >>870514 said, Ross mentioned in the steam that they received good news and his mum can receive treatment by taking a tablet everyday, rather than chemo, so he was celebrating that things are looking better than expected.

His recent streams have been really wholesome. He got quite teary eyed towards the end at how supportive everyone has been (he was a little drunk). Ross is a good egg, after the past 12 months he really deserves a break.

No. 870629

Just wondered how long it's been since Holly and Ross announced they were separating and it was exactly a year ago to this day. I remembered thinking back then they might work things out.. never ever would have imagined the absolute shitshow that unfolded!

No. 870688

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was deleting screenshots and this one stood out as hilarious given recentish revelations

No. 870739


Not enough. No one else really cares about the situation enough to sign that. You'll get a few hundred against it solely because Jared is a piece of shit, but it would get swarmed with pro-Jared people and probably taken down.

The return DCA petition only got so many supporters because Jared pointed to it in his return. If you've been watching, it hit 13k within a day or two. It's been stuck at that since then.

No. 870742


Pewdie "I met Holly twice, and I can't imagine her doing anything wrong!!!" fucking Pie. I can't stand to watch his shit anymore. Fuck him.

No. 870747

Petitions don't really do shit other than show off how many people stopped to sign a thing.

No. 870778

ofc Felix is siding with Jared when he, himself, is suspected of doing similar shit with his fans

No. 870784


It's very disappointing. The one bright side is that he exposed how rabid Jared stans are.

>he, himself, is suspected of doing similar shit with his fans

In one reply or less, wtf are you referring to?

No. 870789

Not that anon, but the way he met Marzia was in his early days, while his channel was blowing up, she messaged him as a fan of his and eventually he was flying her out or flying out to her. So wouldn't be surprised if while they were simply talking he was getting side action from other female fans

No. 870795

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Hoelly's streaming: https://www.twitch.tv/commanderholly


>>870784 samefag here. Meeting his wife online when he had ~1k subscribers doesn't seem very similar to this.

No. 870797

Oh fucking hell she's playing WoW with Pedodick

No. 870799

She's really embracing her new fanbase.

No. 870802


That's a guild name.

No. 870804

Does that make any difference in this context?

No. 870806

Doesn't look like they're friends, looks like they are friends with them, it's just a PUG

No. 870808


Yeah… Pewdiepie was single, and young himself at the time. It kind of seemed more like a friend introducing a friend type of thing.
Meanwhile Jared was married and already in/near his 30s, and also made 7 blogs for porn/nudes from fans… don't really think you can compare the two. Jared's situation is so much creepier and based on a power dynamic

No. 870812

Why am I not surprised they're Alliance

No. 870813

How else was Jared going to play his shit self-insert? Horde has no humans.

No. 870819


He is playing orc warrior on his own streams, anons

No. 870821

>character name is "Stricks"
what fucking realm is this so I can avoid it at all possible costs

No. 870823

File: 1568963686343.png (234.48 KB, 759x1108, Screenshot30.png)

In other "bird-faced nerd forces his much hotter costumer wife into letting him cheat on her because the world can't be deprived of HIS sexual prowess" news, anyone else getting ominous Jared-vibes from Thomas Middleditch? I'd say whiteknights should read his Playboy interview every time they try and argue "b-but Heidi agreed to an open relationship! no one would ever do that unless they wanted one too!" but I bet they'd read this and think this is a healthy relationship too.

No. 870824

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Pic related: alternate universe Jared & Heidi. (no joke his wife is a costumer for movies/tv)

No. 870828


Jesus Christ, she literally is the most unoriginal motherfucker ever.


Very similar vibes - tries to be wholesome until they’ve got them solely dependent with no other options and then pulls the “if you loved me, you’d let me fuck everything with a pulse” deal


What is it with these mediocre looking dudes bagging hot ass wives and that somehow not being good enough?? Greedy pricks

No. 870841

and of course the “if you loved me, you’d let me fuck everything with a pulse” deal always includes the "and if you DON'T give me permission to fuck everything with a pulse then I'm just going to do it anyways and if that upsets you then it's your own fault because I gave you the option to be cool with it and you chose not to" package for free

idk, it might still break through. I mean the "no one would ever do that unless they wanted one too!" and "she could have just said no if she didn't want an open marriage!" argument go hand in hand, but Thomas straight up admits he would have done it anyways even if his wife said no
>but it's better than feeling that you have to scurry in the shadows

No. 870842

>Only after I got married was I like, “Mollie, I’m sorry but we have to get nontraditional here.”
Of course these douchebags only spring this on the woman after getting married. If they did it before tying her down she might leave them, and then they wouldn’t have any guaranteed pussy at home to fall back on if their latest extramarital attempt didn’t work out.

Jared and Heidi were together for something like 7 years, right? At what point did Jared really start to get popular? Assuming that fucking around without strings attached is a longtime fantasy of his, I’m wondering why he waited several years before pulling this nudes and poly shit. It would make sense if it coincided with his rising popularity and influence.

>I bet they'd read this and think this is a healthy relationship too

They’d argue that since she goes along with it (read: tries to save the marriage instead of immediately divorcing him) she’s 110% down with it and probably taking 50 dicks on the side, that whore! And if she ever revokes consent she’s a lying whore who’s just bitter that she couldn’t get as much action as her husband.

If she’d said no to him ~expressing his sexuality~ they’d be calling her controlling and abusive. And also a whore, somehow. There’s no way to win with guys like this. Holly will find that out for herself sooner or later.

No. 870844


>It's part of me. It's part of my being

This dude really trying to mythologise his absolutely generic, every-man-on-the-planet-is-the-same desire to fuck other women constantly. Wanting to fuck is not a personality!

He even looks like Jared. Looks like they both married sweet walkovers.

No. 870847

For some reason, ugly scrawny guys are always doms and borderline abusive. My theory is that years and years of pop culture where those types of guys were protagonists and got the girl and all their flaws.were framed as "lovable quirks" conditioned nerd girls into settling for these worms

No. 870848

The timeline iirc from Heidi's stream is
>together for 3 years
>Married for 2 years before "Poly" was suggested
>2 years of Heidi trying to be the cool wife and deal with it/manage it while being completely dependent on him, at his suggestion
>One year of disaster breakup

No. 870852

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Holly is just a broken record at this point

No. 870853

What was the tweet that started this, because looking at this, it seems that once again Holly goes out of her way to search for anyone talking about her.

No. 870854

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Creepshow backtracked and removed her videos about Holly

No. 870856

I don't know unfortunately, it was already deleted before I saw the tweets but she probably was searching for negative comments again.

I think it's quite clear now that Holly and Jared are attempting to delete their internet history by "asking" people to apologise or remove any trace of negativity.

No. 870857


> “A personal response you made money off of”

Is she honestly just fucking ignorant at this point? You don’t get to scream about other people turning a profit when YOUVE MADE AN ENTIRE CLOTHING LINE ABOUT THE SAME THING, YOU IGNORANT FUCKFACE


> “would you delete them?”

What gives you the fucking right, Hoelly? I don’t like the mean things you said in calling Heidi an abusive whore - you don’t see me demanding you update or delete your tweets.

No. 870861

God what an entitled bitch. I really can't wait until Jared tires of her so she can learn this lesson already.

No. 870868


Making money of your own suffering is different than making money of other's people suffering. That's when you become Keemstar.

No. 870872

why the fuck does she/jared keep bringing how much money others make into this?
>heidi profited off of my suffering
>the two minors have art commissions/donation links pinned on their twitters so they want to make money off of our suffering
>it's a personal response you made money off of

this stupid bitch literally tried to make her public internet fiasco into a cashgrab, does she not see how perfectly her own words apply to herself?!

>holly you used the shitshow of you fucking someone else's husband to make money off of it

>jared you used your nasty predatory habits to make thousands of dollars off of it

please understand that browbeating someone into agreeing with you in the name of "HEAR ME OUT!" is also bullying, you dumb twat

No. 870874

>I never meant to harm
>intent matters
>I apologized
Intent and apologies mean fuck all if you don't stop your harmful behavior, Holly. It's exactly what she did with Heidi too, apologized for crossing boundaries while continuing to cross said boundaries. How can people not see right through her bullshit when it's so obvious?

No. 870898

Is her boundaries or the cursed shirt Hoelly's suffering too? Or is that taking a jab a Heidi because Heidi having boundaries means she an abusive whore and Heidi expressing having unfortunate triggering memories as cursed is something to make fun of and profit at Heidi's suffering.

No. 870919


I saw Jared’s dick, as did most of the internet. It’s officially our mutual suffering.

No. 870934

The fuck is this lmao

No. 870935

So now we're getting spam ads for PIs?

No. 870952

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>intent is important
why tho? I’d love to hear her explanation on why her intent actually matters in this situation

No. 870962


>"Out of context"

Bitch where?


>browbeating someone into agreeing with you

I have a bad feeling that if Creepshow didn't back down, Holly would've taken legal action.
Creepshow made a lot of good points in this argument before Holly browbeat her into 'submission'.

> “A personal response you made money off of”

This is pretty much suggesting "I can sue you for this, & since you don't make as much money as I do, it won't end well for you ;)"

Again, these instances of Jared & Holly 'reaching out' & 'coming to an agreement' with anyone who has publicly disapproved of their actions, are a power-move - "Look how many people I can get to retract every bad thing they've said about me & convince their fans that I'm a good person after all!"

…And it's still not enough.

No. 870964

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Good to see someone actually spell it out to Holly & her supporters.
Actions have consequences. Intent doesn't mean shit.

(sage for non-contribution)

No. 870970

Hoelly really wants to scrub the Internet of her shame, and her grandpa's money is doing well to help with that. I didn't know she was still using sock puppet accounts and white knights harassing youtubers that say anything not in a positive light about her and PedoWorm.

No. 870987

Imagine your grandpa was a Disney animator and this is what you do with his legacy. Not to mention using his money to buy a house and turning it into a shrine for her sexual role play fantasies.

No. 870990

It’s painful watching them get their way by browbeating people into taking videos down and knowing they have the money to do so if people didn’t cooperate with them. This is a disappointment because I like Creepshow’s videos.

They target smaller creators who call them out on their shit because they can easily overpower them.

No. 870992

She is basically every preppy rich bitch she so despises.

No. 870997


>They target smaller creators who call them out on their shit because they can easily overpower them.

Yep. Just look at Jared & his stans responses to PhillyD & h3h3. Despite crying about how terrible 'Cancel Culture' is, they sure are eager to 'cancel' them for not agreeing 100% that "JARED IS INNOCENT!!! IT'S EVERYONE ELSE'S FAULT!!!"

No. 870999

Because she’s from fucking LA. They’re all entitled and shitty people down there. No awareness at all.

No. 871005

Holly’s “suffering” is entirely self-inflicted.

No. 871008

File: 1569009505448.png (78.74 KB, 588x404, heidihate.png)

Who's milking what here?

No. 871013

It's okay, I'm sure Holly will confront Hazencruz and ask him to remove his video as he is making money off Heidi's personal response.

No. 871017


Yeah sure, lmao.

(For real though, Holly standing up for Heidi against this kind of hate would probably benefit her image greatly, but I doubt it'll happen.)

No. 871021


>"human toe @Projared"

lmao just goes to show how little Jared's 'new fans' actually care about him.

No. 871023


Oh, it would do WONDERS for her image - but that would mean she would have to apologize for calling Heidi an abuser, and I think that in Hoellys mind, she is 100% in the right for calling her fuck buddys wife an abuser just because she didn’t want them fucking behind her back.

No. 871025

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There will never NOT be an intense irony in Hoelly selling a “boundaries” shirt, as if she gives a fuck about anyone’s boundaries but her own.

No. 871027

Hoelly hates Heidi with passion ain't no way she gonna apologize to Heidi. Hoelly feels like she is the true victim in all of this and that it was Heidi's fault. Besides Hoelly doesn't even have the empathy to truly apologize and only pretends to "apologize" when she is seen in a negative light and wants people to forgive and forget at her convenience.

No. 871029


That's what I don't get. She keeps saying "I apologized" but apologies should never be followed by "If…" "But…" or "It's just that…"

No. 871032

Exactly, I don't recall her ever apologising sincerely. Anytime Holly says she's sorry, it's always part of a passive aggressive statement.

No. 871069


Or followed by something like "I'm mentally ill."

No. 871081

this is nuts, Danika used to be in a few NSP vids and (I think) was good friends with Dan. Bit bold to support hoelly lmao

No. 871086



she is (or used to be?) a youtuber whose channel is comicbookgirl19, she mainly reviewed/discussed comics and movies from comics, so she maybe just "stuck" with Hoelly through that. I believe she was also part of a group channel as a guest?

and yeah she used to be in some NSP vids (more oldschool when I thought NSP were more fun and didn't take things so seriously) but after those she didn't really collab or hang out with them much I think

No. 871088

I have a feeling that Chris Perkins & WotC are holding-off on any news regarding DCA due to how hostile & reactionary their fans are…

I can already see them going nuclear on Heidi if DCA gets cancelled..

No. 871090

>Nutjob wife
These people really hate women, huh? Heidi hasn't even have a Patreon or do lewd cosplay.

No. 871092

But she's pretty, so she MUST be a THOT

No. 871095

In their little world women only want attention and marriage is an evil shackle on poor poor men. This is p much because their only exposure to women is through porn and some stupid tv shows. So of course the wife is a crazy evil nag who terrorizes poor poor husband and of course she's also just doing her hobby and her craft for attention from men

It never ever occurs to these fucking weebs that no sane woman would want any attention from them

No. 871103

I'm still amazed by incels' inconsistencies, so if a woman gets cheated on she is the crazy one but if a guy gets cheated on and he acts crazy towards his cheating ex she deserves it because only men's feelings matter.

No. 871104


Because "men are logical & women are emotional" or some shit

No. 871106

He's also 'living the dream' according to some, because he fucks women but prefers not to have any strong ties to them.

No. 871112

File: 1569022768273.png (25.63 KB, 280x528, nocancelpls.png)

Meanwhile on Tumblr…

No. 871125

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No. 871129

Old. Was already discussed in this thread:

And Hoelly already got the storefronts to take the shirts down.

No. 871130


Oh. In the words of their stans "Sorry Charity!"

No. 871135

Yup, and look what did happen to the women with strong ties to him lol

Heidi's just now scrabbling together a life of her own and slowly gaining financial indepence
Holly's permanently dickmatized and has managed to alienate whatever goodwill and audience she previously had

What a CATCH

No. 871141

I’m disappointed that creepshowart deleted her videos, they were some of the few out there that called Holly out for being manipulative.

No. 871142

It's really sad that she herself got so manipulated after calling it out.

No. 871150


>It's really sad that she herself got so manipulated after calling it out.

tbh, Deleting her videos was probably the more painless solution. It was either that, or make an 'update' video about how she was WRONG but has learned 'the truth' & proceeds to figuratively lick Holly's butthole.

Also, I wouldn't doubt that Holly had a couple of her stans at the ready just in case Shannon didn't comply.
She comes off as pretty intimidating when she claims

> “A personal response you made money off of”

insinuating that she can sue the pants off her very easily, & if I can remeber correctly, Shannon doesn't really make much money irl.

They know what they're doing. They're pretty much forcing acceptance.

No. 871165

Old milk, but I saw a thread in which someone asked DCA fans to respond to Jared's "YOU'VE BEEN LIED TO" video and… even they weren't buying it…

>"This is what manipulative people tend to do. They'll back away just long enough to seem genuine and then come back trying to flip the script."

This part really hit me.

No. 871174


This has been the way Holly has handled things since she first popped up. Do something terrible, feign innocence, intimidate (either with veiled legal threats or her Stan mob), repeat. It doesn't help that her connections continue to enable her throughout whatever bullshit drama she creates around herself, or who she scams, it always ends up the same.

No. 871190

Wow, it's almost as if her very upset & suicidal tweets weren't really sincere & they were just a dog whistle for her loyal army of stans to come to her aid!

No. 871193

man. now i really want even ONE person to out holly/jared for threatening them with legal action.
i mean, it's been plenty obvious already, but it's so frustrating when jared/holly "reach out" to someone and within an hour they backtrack on ever thinking the two morons ever did any wrong, and then their dumbass fanbase is all over their tweets like "oh wow, two adults acting like mature understanding adults!"
no bitch there's likely twenty C&Ds in place waiting to happen lmao

No. 871195


> then their dumbass fanbase is all over their tweets like "oh wow, two adults acting like mature understanding adults!"

That's just the fanbase reminding them that they're being watched;
"Look at that! A completely healthy, mature, & mutual understanding! Riiiight?" (cracks knuckles)

No. 871196


Also, if I'm hearing right, Holly made Ross, her own husband, sign an NDA, so even if he wanted to say something, he can't. Not without risking his livelihood.

No. 871197

That's just been speculation. Besides, Holly wouldn't be that smart, and even if he did sign one, Holly would have broken it the second she said that Ross knew about it all and was ok with it.

No. 871198

this is likely (though only speculated), but as far as i'm aware, anyone they potentially threaten with a C&D (pamela horton for example) which is basically a "shut up and delete this" is under no obligation to sign an NDA.
an NDA is an agreement - it's in the name - and hence mutual. something like a libel lawsuit or a cease and desist is a situation where the person with the bigger stick wins.
so even if jared told pamela something like "delete your previous tweets about me and clarify the situation or i'll tear your ass in court" and she complies, she is well within legal limits as far as i can think to actually air the fact online.

there's nothing really stopping her from saying "since i was under the threat of libel i have recanted my past statement" and we'd all know what happened kek

No. 871199


Also no one wants to deal with a neverending cascade of death threats & trolls butting in on their business either…

No. 871259

I'm so tired of this. They were married. It's not "his money", it's their money, that's how marriage works.

No. 871293

try telling that to someone whose only meaningful relationship in life has been with his own left hand kek
the only reason heidi's situation is so bizarrely misunderstood is that the internet is composed of incels with zero understanding of normal human interaction.

No. 871296

They clearly don't understand how divorce works either. Him getting her a new car and apartment wasn't Jared being kind or Heidi tricking him or anything, it was to avoid having his current house and vehicle being sold and the assets divided between them.

No. 871382

Is this your speculation or did someone admit to holly making ross sign an nda?

No. 871424


Thought I read that somewhere in one of the previous threads. Again, I could be wrong.

No. 871425


Glad this came up, because I didn't understand what you referred to when you said "hearing right." Following the trail of conversation (admittedly difficult) it seemed like you were referring to Hoelly stans. Now that I've clicked more and more posts, I guess it could be Creepshow's video?

Eee it feels weird saying "I" this much on LC.

No. 871430

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Jared tried to make Heidi sign an nda, or it was at least brought up at some point between them.

I wouldn't put it past Holly to attempt the same.

No. 871432


>>871425 anon here. Agreed. Thank you for the clarification.

No. 871440

Since her new line is all about the scandal, the boundaries thing isn't just ironic by happenstance; it's a direct reference to her conversations with Heidi in which Heidi reminded Holly that she was supposed to respect certain boundaries in her interactions with Jared, and Holly would say she understood then break those boundaries repeatedly, prompting Heidi to bring it up again.

No. 871444


Just think, without the 'scandal', this clothing line might not have existed…

No. 871476

File: 1569120940448.png (32.84 KB, 472x344, apologize.png)

Take note, Jared & Holly.

No. 871499

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“No excuses, no white lies to yourself, no illusions”

Jesus, Hoelly really does think of herself as the wounded victim that did absolutely nothing wrong here, doesn’t she?

No. 871500

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“He’s divorced!”

Filing the paperwork does NOT equal divorced. Plus, Hoelly is still married too. They’re both still, technically, cheating on their spouses

No. 871501

….what investigation?

No. 871502

I didn't know the FBI cleared Jared? Also didn't Jared make it clear he only wants adult fans in case he wants their nudes, and to pump and dump them? So bringing back DCA along with Jared could put poor Jared at risk of minors lying to him again!!! Poor upset Holly too she going to run out of grandpa's money helping Jared sue those bad minors trying to show their nudes to our hero Jared who's eyes belong to Holly's naked body only!!!

No. 871503


They're probably thinking that because Jared hasn't been busted yet that any legal case involving nudes of minors is over. Argued in the PJ2 discord for like an hour one day that investigations involving minors took MONTHS to go through with many of the stans claiming that since he hadn't been arrested yet, it meant they were even investigating and that he was innocent, etc.

No. 871525

>own guilt
No can do. She’ll never apologise properly because she believes intent should be the main factor in determination of guilt and she supposedly didn’t intend to hurt anyone. Apologising for something she doesn’t think she’s truly guilty of would mean being untruthful to herself (>>871499) and that’s like, way worse than destroying two marriages.

In Hollyland, sleeping with another person behind your spouse’s back without their knowledge or explicit consent isn’t cheating or hurtful as long as you don’t intend to hurt anyone. If they’re hurt by it anyway then hey, that’s not your fault! Same with the nude blogs. If Jared never sat around rubbing his hands together thinking “Mhuahahaha I’m going to abuse my power and influence over my young fanbase to make them feel used and violated!” then he can’t be held responsible when that’s exactly what ended up happening.

>If you never stop to consider other people’s feelings then it’s not your fault when they get hurt UvU

I dare her to put that on a T-shirt.

(Though to be honest I really don’t buy that her intentions with the cheating were pure and innocent. Both Jared and Holly are grown ass adults who are fully aware that actions have consequences and with her history of resentment towards other women, it wouldn’t surprise me if part of the affair’s appeal was to get one over on the pretty girl by taking her man. Joke’s on Holly though, since Heidi’s better off without him.)

No. 871529

Heidi mentioned there was legal stuff surrounding Jared's misdeeds and PJ2 decided that him making his video meant it was for sure closed and over, but really it's all speculation.

No. 871531

I mean her and Dan did some Game Grumps episodes together, so still kinda weird but Dan doesn’t seem to be that stable with his female friends anyways

No. 871534


I mean, if you look at the timeline for Austin Jones his first victims came forward in 2015, he wasn't arrested until 2017, and finally took a plea that got him ten years earlier this year. This process takes a long time and most of the defendants end up pleaing out cause they don't want to spend the rest of their natural lives in jail.

Also just the similarities between what happened with Home and what's going on with Projared is kinda eerie. Both initially tried to make the victims look unreliable, both issued really no-hearted apologies, and both continued on with their shit like is was all over with. The only difference as of right now is that Jared is cleaning a pigeon coop while ukelele playing Holly shrieks behind him and Austin is sitting in federal prison.

No. 871589

Umm… If Jared's under any kind of investigation, he's probably not going to tell anyone about it. Including his fanbase…

No. 871599

It's complete tinfoil, based on the fact Ross has steadfastly refused to say anything about the situation directly. Considering that neither of them even have a divorce lawyer, I think it's highly unlikely any kind of NDA is involved. More likely Ross and his therapist have broken down the pros and cons, and they've agreed that staying away from the internet drama is the best thing for his mental health. As much as I personally wish he'd confirm some of the speculation, I have to applaud his resolve to not engage with this shitshow.

No. 871625

This seems likely. Not only that, but the fact he's stayed quiet about it speaks volumes.

No. 871644


This is the disconnect between Jared & his fanbase. They cannot seem to grasp the concept of confidentiality. Heidi being unable to show Holly's sexts & nudes does not mean she's "#heidingthetruth" for all the legal-jargon they spout they should know that by now.
So they don't know shit about what's going on legally, but right now they're main focus is swaying the public opinion, but they're gonna have to realize that this kind of thing takes time, & just because they themselves don't see what happens doesn't mean it didn't happen.

No. 871672


The boundaries merch has been on her old store, prior the scandal. At least since Feb, judging by people posting selfies with it.

No. 871675

In Feb wasn't it already a thing happening in their private lives?
Because holy fuck.

No. 871676


You got the timeline wrong, anon. The victim that reported Jones reported him in May and he was arrested initially within the same month and there was warrant about his digital correspondence, phones, etc. Then they found about the other victims that go back at least 2 years.

No. 871680

Goddamn i hate this photo, jared is not a good looking man but this pic is BRUTAL, he straight up looks like a used condom

No. 871685

Definitely, I just went back to look at the texts that Heidi released and they were dated early February 2018.

Holly was already profiting from disregarding Heidi's (and Ross') boundaries for months.

No. 871687

Fuck, that's not just profiting, that's outright TAUNTING.

No. 871700


This doesn't surprise me, since they both seem to enjoy flicking Heidi in the back of the head, then running & claiming she imagined it.

No. 871707

Doing it when it was still a “private matter” (public RPing notwithstanding) is even worse than doing it after everything came out, because back then there was no way for the targets to respond to the public taunting without looking like a crazy person. At least now many other people are seeing this petty bullshit for what it is.

No. 871708


Lord, I hope this little factoid becomes public. It's definitely something to consider.

No. 871710

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So, how far into hell am I descending if I hope her blatant disregard of CDC recommendations to not kiss fucking birds results in fucking salmonella or bird flu or something?

No. 871720

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I bet her neighbors just LOVE living next to her hoard

No. 871722

Not as far as Holly will be going.

Also, she looks.. pained? Why is she scrunching her face up like that?

No. 871723

You KNOW homegirl doesn't clean and disinfect that aviary properly, and probably just sweeps it out and puts down new straw and calls it a day.

No. 871725


>Photo by Ukulele_Punk

Aww, I guess her boytoy Jared doesn't want to stick around…

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but most animals don't like when people put their mouths on them.


>Why is she scrunching her face up like that?

She always makes over exaggerated expressions

No. 871738

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I mean… the similarities between the two are quite obvious.
Especially when claiming that a victim cannot be trusted due to mental issues…

No. 871748

Anyone else feel like they're just gonne leave everyone hanging on the whole DCA thing?

I feel like they're afraid to say anything because of how creepy & volatile the fanbase is.

No. 871751

Yep. Say anything and you're not just pissing off the "stan culture" chuds, but also the reactionary shitmonkeys. Better to keep quiet, never bring it back and just let the fanbase slowly accept and move on.

No. 871795


She's like a Terminator. Able to understand what human emotions are, but never able to replicate them.

No. 871801

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Old milk, but this tweet by Holly lines right up with what Heidi said about Jared ignoring Holly & Holly making up that it was "Because of Heidi!"

No. 871818

I love how she just believes that Heidi was the singular abuser. That in no way, fashion or form was Projared ever abusive.

Nope, all Heidi.

No. 871821


"But… but Jawwed is her perfect wittle cinnamon woll!He wouldn't hurt a fwy!"

No. 871822

This tweet still annoys me. If your friend/colleague is in an abusive relationship, you do not take advantage and sleep with them - as a mental health advocate she should know that. It’s unbelievable that Holly had the audacity to call another person abusive and unfixable, when it is very likely she emotional abused Ross and is mentally unstable herself.

I hate that I used to think she was a good person.

No. 871823

Not to mention herself. She is in complete denial that she cheated on Ross and abused his trust. If Ross’ VR chat video is about Holly, then it’s not hard to believe she was abusive throughout their marriage.

No. 871848


Jared said Ross visited him in March 2018 to show support. Can someone corroborate that he traveled then? Then again, this might be why Heidi said Ross disliked her.

No. 871854

sage cause stupid at this point but he had way more than that lol more like 100k by the end of the year of 2011(year he and marzia started dating) and got like 500k by spring time of 2012

regardless the fact pewds changed stances completely is bullshit for reasons already stated plenty of times

No. 871855


pewdiepie and any male in the youtube sphere are without a doubt going to support the fellow male nerd who gets accused of being a pedo on account of being sent nudes from minors and saying "uwu they lied to me"

ANY ONE of these guys could have been in a similar position as jared just with different contexts, and they would have been similarly in the same boiling pot. at this point none of this is about thinking rationally and just camaraderie between guys. Support the wronged man, this is why false rape allegations should be punished! yada yada

I just hope nobody touches dodger and her husband strippin they are too pure and must be protected. I say this because dodger is friends with jesse cox and jirard. I don't know Jesse's stance on it (I don't believe he's actually said anything?) but I am seriously hoping Jesse's past as a history teacher to kids/teens would give him some additional wisdom on the matter, and strippin is recently a dad now

No. 871861


I still don't trust Jared on this. Unless there is word from Ross himself - NOT via Scarletmoth or one of Jared & Holly's minions.

He might've visited Jared to cheer him up because of everything Holly told him.

No. 871864

I highly doubt anyone will bring those three into this mess, aside from Jirard, the other three don't seem all that close to prodick and hoelly based on their old vids of like office tour-y vids, even back when grumps first were there.

They all kinda did their own thing and only interacted if they were on the same podcast or videos. If anything Dodger, Sam and Jesse probably feel bad for Heidi and don't give a fuck about cheat brigade since they never cared for them in the first place.

I feel Jesse specifically feels really bad for Heidi since he got cheated on and knows first hand how hard that shit hurts from his old posts on twitter.

No. 871870

Didn't even Heidi point this shit out?

No. 871871


God I hope so. Jesse and Dodger are pretty much my only gaming refuges left that aren't horrifically problematic. I used to watch superbestfriendsplay but we all know how that turned out. And I'm not always interested in their solo content so I only watch when I like the game in question.

This situation has led me to weeding out a lot of creators that I thought were ok. A female friend of mine used to watch Jared and she believes his video only because she would put his vids on while studying and takes everything at face value, without any deeper knowledge of what's been going on outside of his Youtube channel. Peanutbuttergamer was okay, mostly his face annoyed me, but I liked that he played older games. I liked Jirard with Jesse and his friends, and Game Grumps I still watch (selectively) but it's almost hate watching at this point considering I've been on the Suzy/GG threads here for years now lol.

I used to really like Holly when she was in her harmless, pink hair tumblr phase. Sometimes she made me question her, but it was never so severe, and I wasn't aware of her previous cosplay drama. This thing has led me to lots of unsubscribes, "Not Interested" and blocking people. I was briefly subbed to Treesicle but when I saw them backpedaling I retracted that sub.

Anons, are there any gaming faves you enjoy that aren't pieces of shit involved in this? I could really use a detox in my sub feed

No. 871889


Ross was there for a convention. IF he visited Jared at all, then he visited Jared because they did collabs on GG sometimes and they're more like coworkers. It's not like Ross went there specifically just to visit Jared.

No. 871899

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Yeah, he traveled a LOT in March of 2018.

Jared's narcissistic, so in his mind, Ross was traveling all that way just to visit him.

No. 871909

i swear, all the NB idiots have disappointed me so far. i'm still subbed to PBG but he hasn't been uploading on either of his channels, and i'm about to kick him out of the sub box too.
(not milk but he recently tweeted about being too much in a funk to produce videos, and figuring out what he wants to do next. someone asked him if the recent "drama" was related to this funk, and PBG said it was but not as much as people would think. huh)

if you're looking for new subs, i will recommend:
Caddicarus - plays mostly PS games, sometimes new ones. very consistent in terms of frequency and density of content. what commends him the most is the fact that despite being very close to these idiots, he managed to stay entirely clear of the whole situation kek
(the fact that his girlfriend has three daughters of which 2 are minors might have contributed)
ManlyBadassHero - plays horror games, mostly obscure/indie/RPGmaker ones. love the aplomb and charm, and he's also very consistent with how often he uploads. keeps improving his setup/approach as well. solid thumbs up
Brutalmoose and PushingUpRoses - they both have very chill and diverse content, and i have nothing negative to say about either. it's not always gaming content though so YMMV

anyone else has any recommendations? my subbox has been dastardly bare too lately

No. 871918

PushingUpRoses is great and also one of the few people who did not backtrack on her comments regarding Jared's pervness.

No. 871921


Except she did. And her friend that corroborated the account also did.

No. 871923

When did PUR do that?

No. 871925

you're probably confusing her with Pamela horton and her friend, both of who put out videos where they said "jared is cool, i was mistaken".

but now that you've mentioned it - can anyone access PUR's twitter beyond June this year? it looks like all her posts beyond that point are gone? and if so her post calling out jared for being a creep is too. IIRC she called out his inappropriate behavior and said that she's cut ties with him in the past? i don't think she backtracked on this at all, but it might be drowned in her numerous, numerous posts.

No. 871926

samefag - found PUR's statement in the older threads. LC never forgets kek


No. 871929

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also also samefag. going down that same thread it looks like jared's brother deleted what he'd posted in >>809125
it might be old but haven't seen it mentioned yet in the threads

are we taking bets on whether jared is suing his own family now?

No. 871933


You are correct, I was mixing them up. Last thing I read about PUR was from some pj2 assholes digging up old archived tweets where they said she deleted almost all her replies encouraging and flirting with Jared to make it look as if he was coming on to her unrequited. But she didn't say anything after May and I guess deleted even the original statements?

No. 871952

Holly to the public: Leaving an abusive relationship is excruciatingly difficult and I tried my best to help and be supportive but felt so powerless UvU

Holly privately to Jared: WHY ISN’T THIS RELATIONSHIP OVER YET?!!?!

No. 871993

how does his brother look so normal in comparison? man really got the worst of their parents genes huh

No. 872072

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many thanks for the recommendations, anons! I've seen manlybadasshero sometimes, and I always liked how chill he was. Sometimes I just don't want hyperactive screaming or fake charming/radio entertainer voices in my ear, I just want to hear someone playing a game. I'll definitely sub to him because so far he's never disappointed me. And I'll definitely check the others out, too. Unless I like the people in the video (Jesse's Scary Game Squad, Superbestfriendsplay etc) I don't really enjoy loud, group lets plays.

I used to really enjoy Cryaotic but now he's always got Angel and she REALLY annoys me. I don't know why exactly, she sounds obnoxious in that edgy "not like other girls, I smoke weed all the time I'm so cool" way, you know that kind of person that outwardly lacks empathy and mocks every character and never takes anything seriously? Cry used to be great for knowing when to shut up during a scene or when to reflect and feel for what characters go through. Now, Angel will just make some dumbass "joke" and derail the emotional impact.

I don't have many recommendations for actual let's plays but if you enjoy watching lengthy game reviews I suggest Nitro Rad. His niche is retro or indie games and apart from some popular titles like Silent Hill or Res Evil etc he also has smaller or older games you may not have heard of.

About the brother, I would say either he deleted to avoid speculation/drama (least insidious), he deleted because he changed his mind since his brother Jared could probably manipulate him easily (mildly insidious, mostly expected), or because he got hit with threats too if he doesn't keep his mouth shut about the whole deal (kind of expected, would be very fucked up if true)

I assume also that friend/"sister" to Holly that was ADAMANT of the truth is also still around somewhere(absolutely no1curr)

No. 872080

what you said about cry is the reason i stopped watching MatPat and his wife on GTlive kek. stephanie is unbearably stupid, and she just has to interject her opinion on any and all kinds of crap that's got nothing to do with the game they're playing

i was just watching Nitro Rad yesterday and man i felt bad for thinking it but he seems a lot like a… poor man's SuperEyepatchWolf lol. great selection of games though, i really appreciate the lesser known titles he talks about and the depth he goes in

i'll stop the derailment now mods pls don't hit me with dat redtext

No. 872083


You’ve forgotten, Anon, she gets leeway for being mentally ill. Plus, she said “sorry” once so now we all have to forgive her for everything she’s ever said or will say in the future. /s

No. 872140

Finally checked this after forever. In Ross’s friend group. He visited Jared, because Holly was “devastated that Jared stopped talking to her, and Heidi was aboosiv” and she wouldn’t let Ross hear the end of it.
He got a very warped version of the story, and he wanted to offer support to his wife and friend and also get to the bottom of what was going on.
Jared is being ridiculous if he honestly believes Ross supported what was actually happening.

No. 872175

Just to steer this to be slightly on topic, I found out about Syrmor from this thread after Ross featured in one of his VR chat videos. I look forward to his videos now, he has some really chilled and wholesome content.

Also, he interacts with younger players in an appropriate way as well (Jared, take note).

No. 872179


What about Ross leaving Holly while she was gone at Pax, insider anon?

No. 872183

it really sounds like Jared/Holly are 10,000 feet deep in a hole of delusions they dug together. and they started digging that hole well before Ross/Heidi were any the wiser! it doesn't surprise me at all that Jared/Holly would try to preemptively manipulate Ross in order to get him on their "side" vs. Heidi (which Heidi talked about in one of her Twitter threads).

No. 872188


A couple recs:

TheNyanCave - Three Canadian housemates who stream several times each day. They tend to do longer, story-driven games and series (currently going through Catherine: Full Body and the new Fire Emblem).
Achievement Hunter - I actually took a fairly long break from their content some number of years back, but they've been pushing some decent stuff recently. They have 11 rotating "talent" so different videos/series have different vibes to pick-and-choose from.
Hadrian - Pretty chill dude who mostly does long runs of strategy games and The Long Dark. Fairly consistent with uploading when he isn't having technical difficulties (which are not uncommon)
Northernlion - Another fairly chill guy who does a variety of games, but always does Binding of Isaac

No. 872197

I’m not familiar with this? I wasn’t there for private marriage discussions, but they still seemed like a couple when we hung out in May 2018.

Ross thought Jared might very well be in an emotionally abusive relationship, and he wanted to offer support to Jared while he worked to heal and improve his marriage situation, based on his own personal experience.
To be honest, the reason I keep coming back here is just that I’m so upset at Holly. I believed that she cared about Ross and genuinely improved. I bit my tongue for so long, but she’s honestly awful.

No. 872204

Replying to myself, but I’ve seen mentions of NDA, and I’m not familiar with anything of that kind happening. I think he just wants to keep peace. He’s a good guy, he has a lot more on his plate than his shitty ex wife, and also it’s sorta the grumps’ policy to keep quiet on drama. It’s technically “tinfoiling” since that was never directly discussed in my presence, but it’s pretty obvious to me that they don’t want to touch this whole situation with a ten foot pole.

No. 872227

I want to believe you. How did ross and holly look like as a couple? Were they miserable or looked like good friends?

No. 872229

that sounds like an awful situation, jesus… poor Ross, he was really trying to be a good guy! i know some people adjacent to the Grumps and their policy of staying quiet makes complete sense. it doesn't make it any less frustrating to see Jared/Holly pushing a narrative that makes them seem like innocent victims in all of this.

> I believed that she cared about Ross and genuinely improved. I bit my tongue for so long, but she’s honestly awful.

i'm curious as to what she would do that made you bite your tongue for so long? were there any red flags, ie. patterns of abuse?

No. 872234

Just, normal. The affection level for them was never over the top, so there were just no clear signs that anything was particularly wrong.

I’m not giving specific details, because I draw some line for privacy. What I saw and heard of was clear and explicit emotional abuse. She admitted to it and “healed.” Apparently she was just channeling her energy into a dnd relationship instead.

No. 872238

at least we can all be at peace that he is dating someone who doesn't seem to be a complete piece of shit and can stand to be outside and can socialize with others normally, unlike holly

No. 872239

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> clear and explicit emotional abuse.
> She admitted to it and “healed.”
> Apparently she was just channeling her energy into a dnd relationship instead.
why does Holly have the moral compass of a literal child?

i am so ready for Ross to have a major glow-up in his 30's

No. 872242

Thanks for sharing anon, I think you've confirmed a lot of things that I had a feeling was what happened. The main reason I still visit this thread is for exactly the same reason as you do - I'm still just in disbelief that Holly turned out to be such an awful person.

Ross is such a genuine guy and I'm so glad to see him doing well (despite the recent news). His and the Grump's silence speaks volumes. By keeping himself to himself, he's been able to move on in life properly and focus on himself, his art, Giwi, Orph, family, friends, etc. He seems to be in a much better place now.

No. 872252

Yeah, I agree with his decisions. To be honest, I empathize with Heidi in a lot of this because I obviously couldn’t do what he’s doing. I’d have immediately started calling these people out. She may not be perfect, but who can be while dealing with these people?
I haven’t seen Ross much recently for obvious reasons, but despite family trouble, he seems in much better spirits than this time last year.

No. 872254

How was holly with you other friends? Sorry for being so morbidly curious lol. What about Heidi, did you hear rumors about her being abusive from anyone else than Holly?

No. 872256

I didn’t care for Holly on her own, but she was fine? I’ve mentioned it before, but she was generally hard to be around, and there wasn’t any change in behavior at that time.
I didn’t hear any rumors about Heidi, but she was never in my direct circle.

No. 872263

Oh definitely, I think so many people (myself included) felt they could relate to Heidi - the more information she posted, the more raw and relatable it felt.

I don't know whether Ross just felt numb to it all or if he came to the realisation that putting it behind him was best for his own mental health, but it must've taken a lot of self-control to not retaliate when everything was being discussed so publicly.

I don't know if you'll know about this as I get the impression Ross is a very private person but.. did Ross ever agree to an open-relationship? It's been floating around as a rumour but I'm guessing not, otherwise Holly would have slept with Jared sooner instead of waiting until after separating from Ross? (She still cheated on him emotionally regardless).

No. 872265


Be careful, Jared/Holly might be reading this & we'll end up seeing PUR's "I was WRONG about Jared!" tweets/video real soon!

Kinda funny how Jared+Holly's supporters accuse Heidi of directing a MOB of people to force everyone to hate Jared & Holly… Masters of projection right there!

No. 872268

Yeah, if they were open, it wasn't common enough knowledge for me to know about it.

No. 872269

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His immediate response to the drama kinda gives off the impression that he had finally washed his hands of Holly's bullshit & was too invested in his new life to go back & relive any of that shit again.

No. 872280


Heidi shared texts confirming Hoelly wasn't in an open relationship. She said Ross MIGHT be okay with her hooking up with another girl but she didn't know about dudes. This conversation was from Feb 2018.

No. 872282

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February 25, 2018

No. 872283

Yeah I know, those texts were actually shocking. I just wondered what the outcome was in case Holly ever did speak to Ross about opening up their relationship.

By what >>872140 said, it sounds like Holly painted a very different picture of the situation to Ross so it seems unlikely, but who knows how she twisted and manipulated things in her favour.

No. 872284

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"They broke up in February!!!"

No. 872285


>"devastated that Jared stopped talking to her"

…Because he was trying to convince his wife that he wanted to work on their relationship.

No. 872289


>it must've taken a lot of self-control to not retaliate when everything was being discussed so publicly.

It still is. People are claiming Ross 'confirmed' there was no cheating & he was okay with Holly seeing Jared, despite Ross himself never saying anything about it.

No. 872294

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Old Milk, but someone brought up a good point about Creepshow & her videos about Holly

No. 872334


Hi Shannon, it's funny you're so butthurt but stop name-dropping your shit channel. Thanks.

We all know Holly cashed in on the drama which is bad, literally nobody is arguing that.

No. 872357


Creepshow is another pathetic coward who bent to Hoelly and her victim noises.

No. 872359

Well if I was a broke bitch I'd be a coward too, it would be different though if I had the money, and lawyers to deal with that shit. I wouldn't be surprised Hoelly wishes she could do something about this place too.

No. 872360


All they can do is pout.

PhillyD & h3h3 are the only ones who didn't fold publicly, & you can bet they make way more money than Jared & Holly combined.

It's also hilarious that Jared was liking tweets dunking on Ethan for not backing down on him being a total creep. Whatever happened to "I forgive you" Jared?

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said tier costs 50 fucking dollars lmfao

also, she lurks here i'm guessing - she changed the $30 tier rewards to "This tier gets you a super cool art print, sticker, or postcard every month!" from its previous "a mental health tip uwu get shafted"

No. 872372


I guess her shitty clothing line isn't doing that well.

No. 872373


Her supporters aren't buying enough shirts like they said they would! D:<

No. 872404

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These aren't even commissions/personalised drawings. She'll just sketch a pidgeon with crappy occult symbols and send it to you for $50 a month.

No. 872406


For $50, I don’t want a “surprise” sketch or painting. That’s a decent size chunk of change and Hoellys all “I’ll send whatever I want that could be worth all of $5! You’ll never know!”

No. 872407

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Isn’t she the one who was screeching about being scared of a storm like…..two weeks ago? Now she LOVES the rain?

Also, that’s the same porch from the pic of Jared in the “cancelled” shirt, so it’s safe to say they’re still together.

No. 872408

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“From the apocalypse”

You mean the storm of you fucking your husbands coworker and friend while you were both married to other people?

Seriously, fuck off homewrecker

No. 872415

"will it be watercolors, or will it be a short squiggle? one special piece of paper is just splatters of bird poo all over!! you'll never know which one you'll get! thank you patrons!"

No. 872420

She looks like she dressed herself without her tard wrangler's help.

No. 872423

"I'm having to WORK you guise! Work! Me! As a consequence of my actions!! I have to sit on my ass at home and try to con people out of their hard-earned money so I can make up for lost income! FEEL BAD FOR MEEEEE"

Fuck's sake. This chicken-brained shit wit is acting like she's had to take on two part-time jobs doing menial, back-breaking work. Cry me a fucking river, Holly, and get a real job if it's that hard.

No. 872424

More likely from her going ballistic to defend Jared, if she'd started with a sincere apology and then shut the fuck up about it she would have had good odds of getting out unscathed.

No. 872425

Yep, Holly's entitled ass does not understand internet PR at all. Sane people who previously supported her are going to drop her like a hot stone the moment she starts being awful like she has been, and they are not going to give her money for being a whiny toxic little shitbird kek

And you know what? Holly only cares about any of this because it's hitting her in the wallet. No empathy for Ross or Heidi, no thought to how fucking stupid and awful she's making herself look, and how she's kept it up for months now. No, only thing she cares about is the income she's got accustomed to and feels entitled to.

Be sad all you want, uwu

No. 872433

Meanwhile you look at the handmade stuff Heidi sells and while it’s definitely for a niche audience, you can actual tell there’s craftsmanship.

Holly sending random art to higher tier patrons just calls back to Heidi saying how Holly thinks handwritten letters are some big, artistic, generous gesture. The girl is lazy. I tried watching her Spooky Sunday stream and there is literally nothing of value or entertaining coming from either Holly or her Single White Female lookalike friend.

She used to just sell her image for people who knew her as a cosplayer, as Ross’s wife, or as DND character Strix, and now that image is completely ruined because she’s none of those things. She knows she has nothing going for her now, it’s why she keeps crying about her shit DND character.

No. 872435


I only watched the first Spooky Saturday after the shitshow, and that was purely to see if some shit kicked off (It didn't; The stream was boring as fuck IMO with Kayla leading the whole thing and Holly thinking she was contributing by idk showing up I guess)

Holly stans can scream at Heidi to move on all the want, but it don't mean shit when Hoelly is now literally trying to make a living off of being a professional victim of a shitshow that was all her own making.

No. 872492

i watched that one and maybe one VOD after that. holly just sits there screeching random sentences and somehow that qualifies as "contribution", it's painfully boring to watch
i have no idea why kayla would want to skinwalk someone so void of personality tbh. at least she still has marketable skills (and a DnD group that hasn't been outed as a bunch of cheaters kek)

No. 872512

It's offtopic as can be so I'll probs be banned for typing this even with a sage, but I really dig Jaltoid Games. Like Arin they started out as animators. Unlike Arin they've kept up with doing art stuff, and have never come up across as anything but perfectly genuine and endearing as a couple.

No. 872590

>“From the apocalypse”

she is the main reason ALL of this happened to her. she is the one who cheated. she is the one who lied and ruined two people's lives. i have zero sympathy for this stupid bird bitch. Just wow

No. 872592

I think she's so desperate for Jared's attention that she wanted to throw herself into the fire for him.
She'd be walking over burning coals barefoot like "Look Jared! I'm doing this for YOU!"

No. 872601

Charging $50 for a completely RANDOM sketch or painting is absolutely disgusting.

If she really cared about whatever fans she has left, she would offer commissions, like professional artists do - with a clear price structure and the opportunity to bring their ideas to life.

But no.. Holly could not possibly do that because that would be considered real work. I honestly am still shocked by how low Holly will go. Ross' Patreon is a breath of fresh air in comparison.

No. 872606


I saw a post like this on PULL that said pretty much the same thing - and it's a solid point.

Why pay $50 for art that is completely random and at Hoelly's whim when you could find a good artist doing similar commissions for WAY cheaper (I'd hazard to guess maybe $20-30 for a rough sketch like Hoelly used as an example) and KNOW exactly what you're going to get?

No. 872613

There's some interesting tidbits in today's GG episode, Arin selecting "both" when the game asks about sexual preferences, and him offhandedly mentioning an ex who doesn't sound like KT. He says they never met IRL and are still friends to this day, that they both feel like it didn't really count because they were 13 and it was never serious, and that he would go to her wedding if he was invited.

No. 872615


> offhandedly mentioning an ex who doesn't sound like KT.

Yeah but… she'll probably insist that it's her.

No. 872616

Exactly. It just goes to show how little she cares about her supporters to expect people to stump up $50 for something so lazy.

I've seen artists offer sketches for $5/£5 as the uptake is usually high and it helps them to promote their work. 50 people are much more likely to pay $5 than 10 pay $50.. (although I really hope there's not 50 people willing to support her).

No. 872623

I was gonna mention this. I bet KT is either steaming that she isn't the "ex" or will dilute herself into believing she is that girl

No. 872634

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What the fuck?

No. 872645

I fucking love this lol. It’s probably a gg fan messing with her but I hope it continues.

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No. 872785


This is fucking insane logic (and I don’t even know who the fuck KT is)

If you’re upset over being lied to, you should express condolence? She’s using that word, but I don’t think it means what SHE thinks it means.

No. 872794

Sage for no milk, but I have a bad feeling that an 'Onision' occurs when we "just ignore" guys like Jared.

No. 872806

i so miss this insane, insane woman lmfao
i don't know many people who, when asked for a picture of them with someone else as proof, return a sketch and say "well HE drew it so THERE"

anon what does this mean

No. 872818


> anon what does this mean

What I mean is that while his first victims to come out are laughed at & dismissed, in a few more years as he sees more 'success', the list of victims is only gonna get longer, & I wouldn't doubt that Holly will end up on that list as well.

No. 872839

Holy shit, I know it's most likely a troll but what if it's not? That would be milk from the heavens

No. 872842

Okay, I just had to make sure but KT is definitely who she says she is, Arin tagged her DA account in the drawing description and the DA account links to the @dropsofviolet twitter account. The person saying they're the real Katie is just someone's inflation porn alt.

No. 872922

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I can't believe people would pay money for this ugly garbage

No. 872967

Ah so this is what you get for $50, what an amazing deal.

Or maybe it's her premium art and it gets sold for a bigger price ahahahahah

No. 872979

i hate this so much lmfao
it feels like such a slap in the face of actually talented artists who don't get visibility because they never divorced a famous youtuber to fuck an infamous worm

No. 872982


I mean, the art itself is fine (different strokes for different folks and all) but it's the $50 price tag. For $50, you'd think you're getting exactly what you want - not some thrown together piece of art that is at the artist's discretion.

No. 872986

is she really so self obsessed that she can’t draw anything but her self insert? literally all of her garbage art either feature her shitty oc or things connected to her oc. god she’s just like hcb and both are equally pathetic if they think their careers will flourish based on low effort crappy art of crappier characters. sage for sperg but it bothers me that she’s effectively scamming ppl so she can continue her trash witch fantasy.

No. 872994

I mean, I know we're supposed to hate everyone who isn't Heidi and Ross, but let's be honest here: There's way worse/less detailed art that goes for WAY MORE simply because of a name attached to it.

No, it's similar to how musicians who REALLY LIKE A PARTICULAR STYLE will stick to that style or create their own, but it doesn't mean they can't do anything else, it just means that's what they love.

You do know, art (of any kind) is about passion, right? Yes it's Holly, but that doesn't change what people tend to do. Just go on twitter and see how many furry artists stick to furry art and usually their OCs if not doing "fan arts", almost as if it's something people normally do.

No. 873003

Ntayrt, I agree w you in the sense that the art is nice enough, and there's definitely a market for it. But with a client paying first it's weird they'd receive something random with no input of their own. It'd be different if that was her thing sold on ebay, i guess. Dunno, as an artist whos done commissions, these are my 2 cents.

No. 873005


Which begs the question; Why can't she just make a couple of pieces & sell them?

No. 873009

i might be tinfoiling here, but this simple and really valid question signals to me the start of a whole new holly scam.
"my mental health was so terrible this month uwu i can't send out rewards to all tiers uwu i'll do it next month. pls forgive ok? ok"
- cashes out and moonwalks away -

No. 873010

Tinfoil, but I have a feeling Holly shelled out a ton of money to take care of Jared's legal expenses (You know, to prove to him that she cares so much!) & she's just now realized how much money she spent.

No. 873013

She doesn't just want the money, she wants a way to make the clients feel like they're helping out a friend and supporting someone going through a tough time, that way she can keep them paying every month, and also keep them invested in her and have a stake in defending her

No. 873014

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And oh look, it's working! Anyone know how many slots were available for this?

No. 873015

Ah! That makes sense. Of course it's pretty fucked up, but it makes sense.

No. 873017

I don't know if she's doing it intentionally, but at this point I don't have it in me to give her the benefit of the doubt

No. 873019

No. 873021


You can already tell it's gonna be the same circle of friends every month.

No. 873049

Cus they're ugly as sin, anon.

No. 873050


I can almost guarantee that's what she's building up to "Omg I'm so stressed with everything and the apocalypse I caused and all and I just can't handle doing the doodles this month!"


I wouldn't put it past her - but also I think her claims of "I've lost so much income!" are just the latest attempt at garnering sympathy. Like, fam, you can still afford a home of your own in the PNW and all of your bills without having any real, steady line of work.

Let me know when you start wondering where your next meal is going to come from and maybe THEN you'll be deserving of pity, Hoelly


She SAID there were 10 slots, but how do any of us know for sure? Maybe it's the classic "Hurry up before all of the slots fill up! There's only ONE left!" school of business meant to 'scare' people into joining so as not to be left out

((Its like that trivago commercial right now where all of the dudebros think they got the last hotel room or the last ticket to the big game))

No. 873059

Typically Patreon displays next to the tier how many slots are available

No. 873061

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No. 873064


Even if there was room for 10, it doesn't mean shit when you know that seven of the 10 are probably BlueJay (who, iirc, was her roommate for awhile), Kayla, Jared, that niece or whatever she is, Denica, Dan Pirro, and CupcakeValkyrie.

No. 873079

There were definitely 10 slots. So that's $500 each month for random, half-finished sketches.. why bother trying to be a decent person when people like Holly exist?

No. 873190

I thought the worse art cow with the first name "Holly" was Brown. Turns out it's Conrad.

No. 873205


Her art isn't necessarily bad it's just incredibly repetitive, uninspired, and self-focused. Much like the rest of her kek

It's like she learned to draw one thing, got praise for it (I guess) and just never branched out for the rest of her life.

No. 873208

I mean more personality wise. Holly Brown is still trash but she at least has more than one self insert and didn't try to make a man's suicide into a pity me party.

No. 873236

Eh, I think it's only artists that are overly critical of art - that style looks kinda cool to me. For $50, for an original, it would almost be a steal IF it was of someone or something I care about, and not just another Strix.

No. 873238

If that's even the kind of piece you actually get for the 50$.

No. 873244

Looks like it's just a very sketchy, messy style. Nothing wrong with that.
What I do have a problem with is the convoluted way she's going about it. It'd be a lot easier if she just asked them what they'd like to her to draw (knowing them, they'll just ask her for more Strix anyway)

Still, what if they prefer a piece that already went to someone else?

It's frustrating, like why not just make prints of your best/favorite works & sell them???

No. 873260

I very much doubt it. That‘s probably a finished, full colour piece. She said “painting and/or sketch” so while these new $50 patrons are probably hopeful they’ll receive a full painting each month, it’s more likely and technically still in line with her description of the tier that they just get a quick doodle of a spoopy eye and some crows’ feet.

She wants people to simply hand her guaranteed money each month to draw what she felt like drawing anyway. If she sells individual pieces instead she might not get $50 for each one, interest might taper off over time and it wouldn’t help her maintain such a dedicated private fanclub. She’s well aware that her popularity relies more on the internet persona she’s developed than on any standalone artistic skill.

No. 873261

100% this. Holly has thought this through carefully so she can put in minimum effort for maximum return.

I guess there is also low risk of repercussions or expectation from her supporters by offering a random sketch or painting (if they're lucky). They just get what they're given - unlike with selling a product like her shitty clothing, they can't really complain about what they receive when they knew it would be a 'surprise'.

No. 873269

Idk, it looks more like an initial concept sketch to me, drawn prior to the final piece. The face in particular looks poorly realised and unfinished. Art is subjective and obviously Holly's supporters don't care, but I wouldn't put it on my wall.

I've always thought this about Holly's art though.. she can draw and has artistic skill, but it's like she doesn't seem to have any passion or commitment to it?

No. 873297

Kek is she really just selling stamped art for 50 dollars? Like I get woodcuts are a thing, but those are usually made in a series and the cuts are on boards so that even if there's multiple layers it can make the same image again and again

Holly's literally looks like she took some stamps, stamped on a sheet and called it a day. Wouldn't be surprised if she's doing it so that she can re use the stamps for the rest of the patreons and for the months to come so she doesnt have to do any hard work tbh

No. 873298


don't mix up the icon for the patreon level with the art that she is actually providing back. Nobody here has any idea what those sketches or drawings are going to be but if they are anything like the drawing she posted about a month ago - https://twitter.com/HollyConrad/status/1164808206570287104 - then I see no issue with her finding 10 people interested in this type of art. She has the skills, it's funny seeing people here both claiming she is free-riding and not trying to do anything to work again AND angry at her for trying to work again. Pick one and stick with it.

No. 873299

if what you linked is worth 50 bucks in your book, i don't even know what to tell you
the problem isn't with holly trying to work – right now, it's looking too much like a scam. i want to see what kind of art she's giving out for this tier, but if it's anything below the level of effort/detail in >>872922 it is a complete scam.
don't forget her history, she's more than capable of it

No. 873300


if you think this art is not worth 50 bucks, you are either not working yourself or not spending any money on art. On a convention you can buy printed art (so not the only person to have it, and not limited print either) for 50$ easily. Limited print non-commission goes higher. And these are the prices for prints. If she is sending actual sketches or physical copies that's gonna be worth even more.

No. 873301

nice assessment, anon! i'm a graphic designer/artist kek

>printed art for $50 easily

not even loish charges 50 bucks for art prints jesus
are you comparing holly to someone like stanley lau? i get that artistic tastes are different for everyone but by no industry standard is holly justified in charging 50 dollars for the kind of scribble you linked. not even close

No. 873302


After all the PhDs in law few threads back, I take personal qualifications from anons with grain of salt. I support various artists on twitter myself, regularly buy printed art and commissions too, and I am signed up for some patreons too. So if you are charging for less than that, you are either underselling your work or not there yet, anon. But good luck with it.

And no, I don't mean prints from established artists. I mean art from newer names that create new stuff in a style that I like.

No. 873304

no, just living in a shit third world country. but point taken lol. before this enters the realm of derailment i think i should end the argument with the hope that holly/her patrons do share the "rewards" so we can see just how badly they get shafted kek

(inb4 it's revealed all of the top tier supporters are thirsty fucks who'd be glad to get a pee-stained piece of TP from holly to rub over themselves breathing creepily)

No. 873322


I'd love to see more of Heidi's handmade stuff, but she hasn't updated her store or posted anything about it since mid July? A person can buy only that many fairy houses.

No. 873327

She posted recently a picture of her new work room and she's getting a Cam to stream soon
So hopefully she'll be restocking her store with new items and making new cosplay.

No. 873331


That's exactly it. A well-known artist selling a detailed post like the one you linked for $50 - That's fine, there's no issue.

Holly isn't really a well known artist, though. She's also not asking for the person's input in any way, shape, or form. It's literally "Give me $50 and I'll send you something that I'm calling art!"


>"You are either not working yourself"

Fam, even those of us who ARE working, can't always justify spending $50 on someone's art if we're not even sure what "art" we'd be getting.


She's also been busy preparing for various cons and dealing with the legal shit that Jared's dragging her through. It's a little tough to get in a creative mindset when your husband's mistress is launching slander allegations your way every .5 seconds.

No. 873346


Maybe she should finally block her and stop reading her bullshit. She is starting to go down Holly's path of self-harm and it's not looking good.

No. 873348


> "She is starting to go down Holly's path of self-harm and it's not looking good"

Who is? Heidi?

Friend, she made her video clearing things up on her end and hasn't said a word about it since. I'd think that the wife who was cheated on and lied about repeatedly should be able to talk about how distressing the whole thing has been.

The mistress who caused all of this? Well, hoelly can shut the fuck up and retreat back under the bridge with the rest of the trolls.

No. 873349

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hasn't done it in a while. stuff looks okay to me

No. 873351


The other anon claimed that Heidi can't create stuff because of Holly's tweets or something. That's what I am referring to.


She isn't preparing for cons, she said she won't have one in a while until she figures what comes next maybe creatively.

No. 873369


She was in August, which is what the other anon said.

No. 873441

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Good lord these fans are entitled.

No. 873442


I'd like to think Wizards of the Coast aren't stupid enough to host a show where one of the mains is a known groomer of fans, and who might still possess the nudes of people 10+ years younger than him…

But honestly, with the amount of people who keep gushing over Holly and Jared… my faith in human decency isn't great.

No. 873443


You think they'd eventually realize that their pleas, demands, petitions aren't working and eventually move on.

A company as large as WotC isn't going to cave and reinstate DCA just because some fans are demanding it, and if they do, I can't see them asking Hoelly/PedoDick back since they were the reason it was cancelled in the first place.

Besides, it seems that Nate and Anna have moved on and are working on their own individual projects. The only ones still stuck on it are Jared and Hoelly, probably because they can't make a relationship work without using Diath/Strix as proxies for their weird fantasy life.

No. 873446


The odd thing is, there's enough fans that wouldn't mind Holly & Jared starting their own thing.
I wonder why WOTC taking them back is so… vital?

No. 873447

Similarly, Jared and Holly could have started streaming their own D&D game if they wanted to. They have the setups and I'm sure they could rope some of their remaining friends into it. If they both wanted to, they could be continuing their D&D romance in front of millions.

No. 873449


Hell, they can even get the suckers/fans to give them money to continue if they could.

Why the desperation to remain 'official'?

No. 873458

WotC likely owns the rights to all of DCA, including the characters and the story so far. They could continue privately, but if they wanted to make it a podcast/stream/merch of any kind they'd probably be in violation of copyright, and they don't have the cash for a legal battle against WotC now that "their income has been halved"

No. 873461


Ah, that makes sense.

Wait a minute, the characters aren't even theirs?

No. 873465

They created and developed their own characters, and Jared at least has been playing variations on Diath since he discovered DnD. But they created these instances of the characters for DCA, and just like if a writer on a show left, the characters they created are part of WotC's IP and they can't take the rights with them.

No. 873525

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Took a peek at ProJared2… boy are they delusional.

One of the first big lessons to learn in life is that not everyone is going to like you. Also not everyone is going to forgive or accept you after 'coming clean'.

No. 873532

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Also thought this was interesting. Some people seemed to watch DCA just because of Chris Perkins, but the current cast kinda ruined it for people.

No. 873612

from what little I watched back when they started it up is that Chris is a professional DM and the cast is goofy/not serious.
Which can work in some cases as long as the players are still dedicated. But the only people actually invested were Hoelly and Pedo (for obvious reasons). Nate was constantly absent and Anna tried to play along but wasn't always into the roleplay
It felt so awkward that I couldn't continue watching it. The cams didn't help

No. 873613

You can tell in those early episodes Perkins was trying to run a serious game. Problem is, Perkins is best known for DMing Acquisitions Inc, a herpamerpderp joke of a campaign if there ever was one.

And from day 1 it was apparent that it was the expectations of most of the players that this'd be comedy garbage too, so they named themselves the Waffle Crew because they stumbled into Barovia while… looking for waffles.

Is it any wonder the poor man wants to just retire and has already handed over Acquisitions Inc's DMing duties to Jeremy Crawford?

No. 873670

File: 1569582920803.png (8.1 KB, 425x174, ko-fi.png)

Though I highly doubt this is the Holly that immediately comes to mind, it did cause me to briefly choke on my own cup of coffee.

No. 873679

Should we create a FAQ to include in the next OP? We're over 10 threads deep and some questions come up again and again, it could cut down on people demanding to be spoonfed. I'm thinking in particular of the restraining order question but there are others.

No. 873681

They're not not in the minority. Chris was a great DM, but the cast of Ana, Nate, Pedoworm and Hoelly did ruin it. Their characters were too busy making jokes and ruining what could have been good campaigns.

No. 873683

Heidi is smart. She'll gain views and honestly, her craftsmanship is beautiful. I look forward to her future crafting and sewing streams.

No. 873703

Kek this is the exact shit Holly did before complaining that Heidi wouldn't forgive her despite all her "apologies and gifts." She actually gave Heidi coffee stout and expected it to be a pass to fuck Jared, bottom of the pic in >>863839

No. 873709

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Why is she still lying?

Holly, we've all seen the texts, you told Ross AFTER you became romantically involved with Jared (and what you told Ross was apparently not even the truth of the situation).

No. 873726

LOL what is she even whinging on about? Every iteration of the Sims has had a magic expansion, including the current one. I'm sure no one, absolutely no one, would be upset if she wanted to stop playing at being a social media personality in real life and take that shit into a single-player game…

No. 873728

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At this point in time not only has the Sims 4 realm of Magic been out for a week at least but there has been many magic mods around for years.
She not only complains too much she doesn't even check to see if she is wrong first.

No. 873731

she's sorry. she's mentally ill.

No. 873738

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She just tweets the most generic "not like the other girls" shit without thinking.

Probably read somewhere that TS4 has Influencer career and it activated her "show them how quirky I am" need.

No. 873739

This is some nice girl shit, being unkempt is not a necessarily bad thing but it isn't a virtue either. This also reminds how some women smell just as bad as their male counterparts in conventions.

No. 873748

I don't understand what she's saying. Sims 4 realm of magic just came out & the influencer job (there's 2 I believe, one is base game & it's a Style Influencer job, the other is in a the DLC City Living & it's a Social Media Influencer Career)

So I don't know what she means either, if you want magic, get a mod or buy the Magic pack.

Neither of them include the influencer jobs & have nothing to do with the other.

No. 873754


I think the intended message was along the lines of, "look at everybody wanting to be an influencer! That's so shallow, I didn't want this, it just happened to me while I was trying to be a witch"

Which is completely ridiculous, obviously. Even if someone gets viral fame unintentionally, they can't keep it without considerable effort. She's been promoting herself and working on online content for a really long time. Nothing about her career is accidental or something that just happened to her randomly, kek. She hardcore promotes her brand and image, then acts like it's just fate that she got any traction for being quirky.

The most irritating part of this is that she acknowledges that she's in a position of privilege that others want, then discredits it and the effort she spent securing that platform for herself.

No. 873772

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Holly sells a shirt that says "Boundaries" yet she cannot seem to understand what they are & how much they mean to someone, regardless of whether or not you like them.

Heidi just wanted some space & to be left alone to process all of this new information. Holly kept prodding & going "We good, right?"

Someone telling you they have intense romantic + sexual feelings for your spouse, whom you vowed to stay with "for better, for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and health, to love and to cherish, until death", is a lot to take in.
What you personally think & feel about marriage doesn't apply to everyone else, Holly.

No. 873791

Does she even do anything that constitutes her as a witch? Or is she just that typical white girl witch aesthetic.

No. 873795


As far as I can tell, the whole “I’m a witch” thing is just more of her “look at me! I’m not like other girls - look how not like other girls I am!” aesthetic.

No. 873802

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Context: The Rule of Three (also Three-fold Law or Law of Return) is a religious tenet held by some Wiccans/Pagans and occultists. It states that whatever energy a person puts out into the world, be it positive or negative, will be returned to that person three times.

So in other words; Karma

Whether it's putting a spell on someone, or sharing sexts between a woman & her husband in an attempt to discredit & ridicule her, it will have negative repercussions for the witch.

No. 873803

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…Which makes this reply tweet all the more ironic.

No. 873811

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Someone else brought it up when it all began too

No. 873815

Just saw that WotC sponsored GG to do a video on magic the gathering.

Whilst it's not DnD, hopefully it's still a big kick in the teeth for Holly and Jared to see their ex-employer pay GG after Jared tried to drag them down in his video.

No. 873819

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Big oof

No. 873820

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No. 873823

I would pay to see Holly meltdown if DCA runs with the Grumps. kek

No. 873824


Right, because why wouldn’t they want to invited the dude who is not only accused of soliciting nudes from minors, but the dude who is currently banging one of the gg’s wife while still being legally married himself?

How could that possibly go wrong? /s

No. 873844


Oh hell, I hope not. She’d ditch pedoworm and try to get back with Ross, and that dude doesn’t need Hoellys brand of crazy back in his life

No. 873853

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Or whose husband your co-founder is going to fuck next, but let’s not mention that one, eh Kayla?

No. 873866

Ah yes, Holly's usual song and dance.
>Be kind… to me specifically, but not to Heidi or anyone else who I decide is abusive

No. 873874

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Holly's part of a podcast now

No. 873876

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No. 873902

Let me guess, Holly is the unkempt pick me girl at the far left.

No. 873904

It figures Penny Arcade is fine with keeping contact with Holly. They're shitty people too.

No. 873905


Really? How so?

No. 873909

Not the same anon but I know some people got bothered about them about the dickwolves comic. Or that they wanted to hire a developer to do all the work for them for really cheap, and they had charity scandals. I haven't kept up with any new drama with them though.

No. 873910


Odd that Holly keeps preaching about 'forgiveness' & 'everyone makes mistakes', but when confronted about the cheating she's all "NOPE! Not Me! Not One Bit!"

No. 873911

File: 1569634209747.png (71.97 KB, 584x564, pronision1.png)

Nah bro, ProJared & Onision are one in the same.

No. 873915

>Or that they wanted to hire a developer to do all the work for them for really cheap

So basically every company ever to exist? PA I haven't heard anything negative about them aside from the usual "I'm offended and hurt by everything!" people.

No. 873922


Apparently the milk river dried up so badly that this thread has become "analysis of Holly's tweet about the Sims"?

Jesus I know we hate her but this is pathetic. Please only post actual milk.

No. 873923

They also treated Scott Kurtz like shit. There's a reason he eventually effed off Acquisitions Inc.

No. 873928

Dude I didn't get bothered by the dickwolves comic but I did think they kinda over did it by making merch of it and rubbing it in people faces that were offended by the comic because it dealt with rape. I can see how other people see them as scummy. I lost interest in penny arcade a while back and I doubt long time fans or new younger fans are going to voice any wrong doing of their boring favs.

No. 873950

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What I want to know is why the fuck Jared & Holly's stans are still going after anyone who just wants to cheer Heidi up?

No. 873964

I mean, that comment is literally text book:
"Hey beautiful, don't worry about those evil bad people I'm here for you, look at my shiny armor, fuck me already."

It has nothing to do with Jared/Holly. Not everything revolves around them.

No. 873967


If Daniel Ferguson wasn't such a creep I'd agree.

No. 873968

I'm sure all of Hoelly's white knights want to fuck Hoelly too. Hoelly's white knights would love to imagine her eyes becoming more crossed when she cums while screaming out PedoDick's name in her granny voice. I agree not everything revolves around PedoDick/Hoelly but the guy named Daniel I've seen him defend PedoDick/Hoelly before and pestering Heidi. And this place still gets white knights finding ways to defend their precious homewrecker even here, I'm sure they want to fuck Hoelly too.

No. 873970


Aww yeah, get ready to dump your elf-wife for… whatever the hell that thing is…

No. 873973

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Here's something weird. This Daniel guy claims to have made a discord for ex-fans of ProJared when the drama first came out.

No. 873976

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Honestly, I think he's full of shit, because he seems to get a kick out of harassing Heidi & anyone who supports her.

Personally, I think he tweeted this just to zero-in on Charlie after Jared made that video.

No. 873977

Which discord was it? Because if it was the projared2 one it that one was always on PedoDick's side. Plus here he is using an emotional appeal to seem he was once of their side but I remember close to when the drama broke out he was alreadying questioning the minors and Heidi's story because he didn't believe them.

No. 873978


I love how he bothers everyone else for 'proof' yet posts NO proof of this Discord that he ran.

No. 873980

This is idiotic, considering that Blaire White, Repzion, Repzilla and a bunch of other people have made YT vids dragging Onision.

No. 873993

Every time holly posts a facetuned selfie, an angel gets its wings.

Keep being THAT insecure, you stupid bitch.

No. 873995

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God, does anyone else remember those "sex is no accident" ads MTV had back in the day? They've haunted me ever since, and I always think of them with cheaters or people like Holly who try and act like they didn't make the active decision to fuck someone else's husband. You did that girl, you didn't "lose" anything you traded your career for that wormdick

No. 874014

I'd love to see that, it would genuinely be fun

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No. 874091


Exactly. I’m sick of the “oh this was a mistake!” narrative that Hoelly wants to sell. ProPedo didnt trip and fall dick first into the endless well of crazy that is Hoellys vag.

The took each step necessary for cheating to be a thing, and only went “oops!” when they got caught and slammed for it.

No. 874094

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I thought Hoelly was all “I don’t talk to my parents, uwu I’m mistreated”?

No. 874099


>only went “oops!” when they got caught and slammed for it.

Well, Hoelly did try to use the "I was SAVING him!!!" excuse which is textbook other-woman behavior.

I love how Hoelly's stans are all "It's troo luv!"
Nah fam, it was a pity-fuck. Plain & simple.

No. 874114

Lol @ all the comments praising her dad, from what I remember she only used to mention him when she had something negative to say.

I wonder if he sent that photo saying something along the lines of "this reminded me of you and Jared"..

No. 874159

She always implies that her dad has a drinking problem. Alcoholism is strongly linked to mental illness, so you'd think that she would try and raise awareness instead of continually shaming him. Another example of how she only cares about mental health when it benefits her.

No. 874186

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>"Ross said this himself."

Old news, but it still disgusts me that everyone is just taking Jared's word for it when it comes to Ross. I thought hearsay didn't count?

No. 874216

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How did I miss this?

No. 874248

I hope Heidi finds a woman to be with and treat her right tbh

No. 874249

This is hilarious and pretty much explains any idiotic cheater who says it was a mistake. Cheating is always done with intent. always. Holly saying she never cheated really bakes that cake though

No. 874265


Reminds me of an expression I heard once; "She just fell on a dick & got pregnant."

No. 874282


> "Holly saying she never cheated"

That's the kicker. Even if she had waited until the divorce was started and we buy her schtick that she and pedodick didn't do anything until recently, THAT IS STILL TECHNICALLY CHEATING.

No. 874316

It's amazing how this extremely emotional person doesn't understand emotional cheating
Which they did that AND physical cheating. She's a cheater and doesn't want to admit it bc that makes her "like all the other girls" she hates so much

No. 874423


I don't think it's so much that it would make her "like the other girls" - but that it would be admitting fault because literally NO ONE has sympathy for cheaters, especially not ones who implode two separate marriages because they think fucking a worm dick is somehow the best option rather than getting a fucking dildo like every other horny person on earth.

Saying "I fucked up" would be admitting fault and yank away that "I'm a victim" thing that Hoelly is holding onto with both hands.

No. 874545

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Aaand the DCA stans continue to be entitled little shits.
How long do you think it'll take until they start harassing Chris, Nate, & Anna?

No. 874550



> "Literally everybody wants this."

Not "everybody". Some people only watched because Chris Perkins was the DM.

No. 874557


> "Could you guys have at least the decency"

Where do they fucking think they're owed the first goddamned thing?

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Apparently, I missed this too

I'm kind of enjoying how the rest of the Wafflecrew is all business-as-usual, while the stans are screeching "BUT WHAT ABOUT MUH JARED???"

No. 874617


Jesus christ, the level of irony in attacking one of the members of DCA for repping a company that cancelled a show that they themselves were a part of.


Yeah, and they're the only ones still bitching about it. Anna and Nate have moved on to doing their own thing, Chris - from what I can tell - wanted to step down anyway. The only ones still bitching are the two who were "cancelled" due to their own ignorance and inability to keep it in their fucking pants.

No. 874622


> "Or are you guys trying to turn into Valve?"

See, this is why no one at WOTC is telling you people anything, because they know that 1) Even if they did bring DCA back, they probably won't be able to bring it back to it's former glory, & 2) If they say the show is cancelled, they're gonna end up with a bunch of man/woman-children bawwing about how "WOTC is a DISGRACE! They gave in to CANCEL-CULTURE & let an INNOCENT man's career & livelihood be RUINED by his ABUSIVE SOCIOPATH WIFE!!! DO NOT SUPPORT THEM!!!"

…Jared & Holly themselves likely won't say shit, but they'll keep liking + retweeting all the angry responses from the stans, silently egging them on, while attempting to remain professional.

No. 874623


They like the posts because it's their way of saying "YES THIS WE AGREE", but if it DOES all blow up (and it inevitably will), they can hold their hands up and back away slowly, saying that they only liked the posts to show support to their fans, not because THEY actually wanted to bring the show back or that THEY had anything to do with the constant harassment of WoTC

No. 874632

Unless something else changed recently, Strix didn't even get removed…

No. 874634

Yeah, but I guess according to the fans "Strix cannot go on without her Diath!"

No. 874639

I do find it HILARIOUS that Holly keeps on telling on herself accidentally. She keeps calling the fallout of her and Jared's shitty actions "the apocalypse" in a boohoo bid for martyrdom… but "apocalypse" literally means unveiling, revelation in the original Greek kek; "an unveiling or unfolding of things not previously known and which could not be known apart from the unveiling".

So, in other words, getting caught. Cry more, Holly.

No. 874745

This type of intellectual burns where you have to extensively explain the joke are my favourite, no joke. You got me a laughing anon

No. 874746


That's an eschatological burn! Because, y'know, you ended her.

No. 874966

watching Hoelly's Mentally Unhealthy Monday, and someone asked about her hair. She's growing out her bangs because "people were being mean to her".

How does it fucking feel, you dumb, neurotic bitch?
Law of three or whatever the fuck you believe.

Also, your eyeshadow is such a gross color for your jaundiced face.

No. 875056


Altering your hair because someone made fun of it means one of two things (1)You're an emotionally damaged 12 year old girl or (2) you're in the middle of a nervous breakdown a la Britney Spears when she shaved her entire head.

> "People were being mean to her"

You're a grown ass woman on the internet, Hoelly. You have NO problem insinuating that your boyfriend's wife is a whore (releasing sexts that weren't yours to release that I would LOVE Heidi to nail you for), but you can't take someone making a joke about your TERF bangs?

The internet ain't for you if you can't take the heat, Hoelly.

No. 875078


Considering how proud this anon community was when we noticed that Suzy changed her hair, looks, weight to adapt to our criticism (cause she totally lurks here too) I am surprised of these statements. We milked those fucking bangs for at least half a thread if not more, if she is changing to provide less milk, we did it right.

No. 875105

Except she’s not doing it for any self betterment she’s doing it because mean people were mean to her and she’s a victim and don’t you all feel just terrible for bullying poor victim Holly. It’s another manipulative point she’s trying to make.

No. 875107


Wait, this is a self-help forum? Where did I miss this turn?

Don't delude yourself, anon. Pissing on someone's bangs does not make them better or worse, just means you don't like their bangs. Same with changing them. Nobody here gives a fuck if she betters herself and nobody here is commenting so she can get better, so stop fucking pretend to care about it.

No. 875112

Don’t worry I’m not pretending to care, I was just responding to the other anon who seemed to think people should be pleased she’s taking steps to ‘better herself’ or whatever.

No. 875125


The anon sounded proud that we got her to change her bangs, you are the one that complains she didn't do it for the RIGHT reason and that's she is manipulating us by doing it LOL.

No. 875211

I missed the beginning but I caught a bit of the stream when she was creating a Sims character of herself. She kept saying how much she dislikes her brows, how she wants to get them micro-bladed but she's too afraid, how messy her hair is - she even mentioned how her skin colour looks like she has jaundice.

Maybe she has just taken notice of the comments about her appearance, but now that she has Jared to herself, I wonder if she feels the need to change in an attempt to stop him from straying?

No. 875233

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Someone on PULL found an old blog post from Holly.
Sounds like she came from a really shitty family where no one really supported her, which explains some of her behavior.

Still not a valid excuse to overstep an unrelated person's boundaries & brand them as an 'abuser' though…

No. 875262


I wonder if she blames the minor for sleeping with her mother as well.

She lived in a million dollar home inherited from her rich grandfather. I don't know why she is looking for sympathy for having to pay for her mother's health treatment.

No. 875272

Hoelly if you are reading this, Jared will cheat on you even if you were the most perfect girl of his dreams. Some people are just cheaters regardless of how you look or act, it's just they get bored of being with the same person.

No. 875294

I mean, whether you're rich or poor, abuse is abuse.
Sometimes you don't realize you've been in an abusive situation until you're out of it.

You can see this in Heidi, who is re-evaluating her entire marriage (the mistakes she made, all the red-flags that she missed, etc.) Coming to the conclusion that Jared didn't want her to know what was going on.

Jared, on the the other hand, had one thing to say "She wouldn't let me leave." That's it. That's his claim of 'abuse' from her.

It's clear that he told his wife he'll try to fix things, then told the other woman that he wanted to leave. It's fucking textbook cheating. People do that shit all the time. Just admit it & move the fuck on. It's not like any of your fans are gonna give a shit that you cheated.

No. 875317

You can tell from this blog post she is an absolute doormat. She is going to be Jared's cumrag for the next year or so until he gets rid of her for someone else too.

No. 875326


>"Sounds like she came from a really shitty family where no one really supported her, which explains some of her behavior."

No, it doesn't. You don't get to blame shitty behavior on the "BUT I HAD A BAD CHILDHOOD/PAST". There are PLENTY of people who have shitty pasts who don't grow up to be emotionally manipulative cunts who threaten to kill themselves whenever something doesn't go their way.


>"She wouldn't let me leave"

I can't get over that one. Divorce does NOT require the consent of both parties. If he was THAT miserable with Heidi, he could have bailed WAY sooner. PJ2 stans like to scream that Heidi had threatened to destroy him if he left sooner, but like, look around, fam: His house is on fire right now because he is a fucking creepy dude. That has fuck all to do with Heidi and EVERYTHING to do with himself.


Hoelly is definitely going to be one of those ignorant ass people who say "He can fuck who he wants, I'm fine with it because he still comes home to me!" even though you can tell that they are 100% not okay with it.

No. 875354


To be fair Heidi directly admitted at making suicide threats (and not just threats) even before the end-of-October whatever-it-was talk-or-break-up so that "he could have bailed WAY sooner" is a bit of a stupid take.

No. 875361

She can grow those TERF bangs out all she wants but that girl still has a wonk ass lazy eye that’ll never get fixed.

Wonder if Jared is negging her though and it doesn’t have to do with anons.

No. 875365

PedoWorm could have called the cops on Heidi when she was threatening suicide, and divorced her still. It's not like PedoWorm gave a shit about Heidi, just his reputation.

No. 875380

>and said my wedding was a sham
good thing you proved her wrong tho huh

>She also wasn’t a very nice person and made lots of mistakes like having an affair

>She was on anti-psychotic medicine when she died
Wow it’s almost as if…..having a mental illness…..doesn’t give you a free pass to do whatever you want and your actions impact those around you….in the long term. Holly should know better than to say “sorry I’m mentally ill lol move on” and expect that to fix all of the damage that has been done if this was her relationship with her mother.

>I mean, whether you're rich or poor, abuse is abuse.
Not to be an asshole and obviously she's had a rough go of it but…..what part of this is abuse? Not saying having a dysfunctional family and mentally ill parents won’t royally fuck you up just as much, but it’s not the same thing as abuse. Your parents being disappointed in you and wanting you to be into their hobbies is not abuse. Plus she clearly had a close loving functional relationship with her Grandfather who encouraged her artistically and was endlessly proud of her. That's more validation than most kids or adults get, PLUS a house.

No. 875384


>PJ2 stans like to scream that Heidi had threatened to destroy him if he left sooner

Most of them must have missed all of the people who doubted her when she first announced that he cheated on her. It wasn't until victims started coming forward when people went all-in against Jared.

No. 875485


Heidi admitted to having suicidal thoughts - Hoelly used threats of suicide to manipulate the narrative to her favor (went to a mental health hospital conveniently when the story broke but still apparently had access to the internet, the whole Etika shit show of "You cancelled him and he killed himself, so if you cancel me and I kill myself, it will be your fault", etc.)

> "He could have bailed WAY sooner' is a bit of a stupid take"

Right, because it's stupid to tell a grown adult that if they're not happy with a situation that they should leave.

No. 875507


You missed the part where Heidi's therapist warned Jared that Heidi was likely to use suicide threats when he tries to leave her and then Heidi confronting her therapist about those statements and making it clear that she was herself institutionalized previously than those statements were made for being suicidal. None of these things were released by Holly, actually, the most damaging part was released by Heidi.

No. 875508

Hollup, why was Heidi's therapist talking to Jared at all?

No. 875510


From the texts that Heidi released, it seemed that Heidi gave her permission to interact with Jared and in the end of October (after that "talk"/"break-up") Heidi was somewhere (supporting friends? Atlanta?) for few weeks while they were taking some space and from Jared's texts with the therapist (shown in his video for few seconds) she contacted him because Heidi was getting anxious to return earlier than they agreed to or some BS like that.

No. 875511

In that case she's either trusting as hell, which doesn't help the theory of her being abusive, or was the party being put upon, which doesn't help the theory of her being abusive.

No. 875515


Quote from the texts (they were all posted in previous thread) "You had given me release to work with Jared and I was trying every angle to get him to approach you delicately." and "We know how unstable the situation was at that time and I worked very hard to help the both of you" and "I was so limited in what I could do and wanted you both to get assistance locally. I was feeling overwhelmed trying to find a way to get you both to figure next steps and get him to act in a way that wasn't more destructive" ….

or otherwise said the therapist was trying to get Jared to not trigger Heidi to go suicidal.

No. 875516


tinfoil, she gave permission of her therapist to approach Jared about it because she knew then it will be heavier than just threats and he will take it seriously coming from a professional.

No. 875517

Expressing suicidal thoughts is not a manipulation tactic if they're genuine and serious. The only scumbag move I'm seeing is Jared using them against her.

No. 875519


Serious enough to enter a mental hospitalization? Cause seems that it's the case only when Heidi does it LOL Hoelly doesn't get the same benefit. I still find it icky that Heidi actually tweeted (not at start of the drama way later, after we here speculated on it) that Holly was using suicidal threats to manipulate Jared…. yet turns out Heidi was doing the same months before. Claimed Holly couldn't have known what her therapy was about when obviously Jared had release to know and he has told her along with given her screenshots and so on.

No. 875524

explains =/= justifies

No. 875526

Heidi had given her permission to discuss her mental state with Jared in the hopes that he would understand her better and consequently treat her better. Of course, this was under the assumption that the problem was simply a miscommunication and not Jared treating her like shit on purpose, which turned out to be incorrect.

No. 875527


Hoelly entered a hospital after being outed as the other woman and having to face consequences for being a shit person. Even while IN the hospital she was still demanding to be fed information about the situation.

Heidi made genuine comments about suici