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Recap:
>Holly continues to suicide bait and sperg daily about how she's innocent>still calling Heidi abusive and crazy>pretended she was present when Heidi allegedly screamed at Jared in front of their lawyers when she most certainly was not>pretended that she knew Heidi's psychiatric history and that her therapists called her hopeless and unfixable (which would be a serious HIPAA violation and also no therapist would ever say to a patient or their family anyway) when really Jared just lied to her, shocking>old tweets from Dec 2018 reveal that she was crying and threatening suicide over Jared being in an "abusive relationship">reopened her etsy store the same day Heidi opened hers>Jared still MIA>Heidi seems to be moving on>KT still nuts>the rest of GG is drama-free currentlyPrevious thread:
>>816967Our main actors:
>Jared Knabenbauer/ProJared:https://twitter.com/projaredhttps://www.youtube.com/user/DMJaredhttps://www.instagram.com/projaredgram/
>Heidi O'Ferrall/AtelierHeidi:https://twitter.com/AtelierHeidihttps://www.youtube.com/user/AtelierHeidihttps://www.instagram.com/atelierheidi/http://www.atelierheidi.com/
>Holly Conrad/Commander Holly:https://www.instagram.com/commanderholly/https://twitter.com/HollyConradhttps://www.youtube.com/user/CommanderHolly
>Ross O'Donovan/RubberNinja:https://twitter.com/RubberNinjahttps://www.youtube.com/user/RubberNinjahttps://www.instagram.com/rubberninja/The usual suspects:
>Suzy Berhow/Mortemer:https://www.youtube.com/user/Mortem3rhttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzHWMl59l72-lZQDA0uW8yghttps://www.youtube.com/user/meeperfishhttps://instagram.com/mortemer/https://twitter.com/mort3merhttps://www.etsy.com/shop/PsychicCirclehttp://flapflaps.tumblr.com/
>Arin Hanson/Egoraptor:https://www.youtube.com/user/egoraptorhttps://twitter.com/egoraptorhttps://www.instagram.com/egofaptor/
>Dan Avidan:http://ninjasexparty.com/https://twitter.com/ninjasexpartyhttps://www.youtube.com/user/NinjaSexPartyhttps://www.instagram.com/ninjasexparty/
>Game Grumps:https://twitter.com/GameGrumpshttps://www.youtube.com/user/GameGrumpshttps://www.instagram.com/gamegrumps/
>Normal Boots:https://twitter.com/NormalBootshttps://www.youtube.com/normalbootshttps://www.instagram.com/normalbootsofficial/
>Minor cow Katie, rejected Arin way back when and regrets it now that he's famous:https://twitter.com/dropsofvioletSummary of the old milk (cheese?), courtesy of anon:
Suzy "the Goose" Berhow:
>Has a history of scamming fans by buying cheap jewelry from China and the likes and reselling it to fans with an absurd markup as her jewelry line or as one anon put it: "creating a really expensive jewelry line that involved very little effort on her part". Arin has to come to her defense when people find out.>Previous threads over the years were mostly about Suzy's "thyroid-related" weight gain and absurd styling choices, scamming, and how she's a ~rEaL gAmEr GuRl~ >No one seems to really have complaints about her current styling choices since she lost weight and the skunk stripe and adopted a more natural look (it's much closer to her twin sister Jean's)>Suzy was a "model" when younger, and will still constantly repost the same pictures from her past over and over again, in case anyone forgot>There sometimes seemed to be some unspoken tension between Suzy and Holly. Suzy seemed to give off the vibe of being uncomfortable not being the only cool gamer gurl in the GG group, especially when up against a girl that seemed to prefer and respect.>Seems plausible that she prefers being the female center of attention given the theory that JonTron's swift and dramatic departure from GG was due in part to some beef between Suzy and Jon's girlfriend at the time. IIRC this is still all just speculation. (Jon's too big of a topic, read that one on your own for the full backstory)>A/N: I would be kind of surprised if she showed any support for Holly at all, but maybe that's just meHolly "Manic Pixie Nightmare Girl" Conrad (Backstory/Pre-Divorce):
>Holly is a talented cosplayer/craftsman/special effects artist and well respected in the community, even appearing on Syfy's "Heroes of Cosplay">Was one of the main focuses of the 2011 Documentary "Comic-Con Episode IV: A Fan's Hope" (directed by Morgan Spurlock)>Originally gained notoriety for her Commander Shepard/FemShep cosplay>Married to Ross O'Donovan, beloved animator and member of the GG Family, from 2012 to 2018>When it came to Arin/Suzy vs Ross/Holly most people preferred Ross and Holly, because they felt less fake and Holly was famous separate of Ross, not riding her husband's coattails like Suzy.>Was best buds with Jared's wife Heidi, another talented and respected cosplayer/craftsman>Apparent tragic backstory = quirky anxiety uwu. I don't really know the whole backstory on this one, not sure if it really matters. >But was apparently close to ger grandfather and inherited his house(?) in Washington(?) when he passed away which was in theory part of the reason she and Ross amicably split. Jared and Heidi just also happened to live in Washington.>Other speculated factors included Holly being asexual (lmao), the toxic GG fan-community, "having codependency issues", and wanting to leave LA while Ross wanted to stay>Publicly their divorce was mutual, amicable, and came as somewhat of a shock….OR WAS IT?>Basically all this drama is so juicy because Holly "quirky manic pixie dream bird gurl, asexual anxiety, luvs animals so obviously wouldn't hurt anyone uwu" Conrad was the surprise plot twist villain we never saw comingHeidi of the House O'Ferrall, Hell Hath No Fury, Giver of Zero Fucks, Destroyer of Careers
>I've followed Heidi for years for cosplay stuff, so I can only speak from that perspective but I don't think there's really much else to say about her>I think some people in the cosplay community found her kind of cocky, but she didn't seem to really rock the boat too much>She's a much more detail oriented and talented craftsman than your average costhot. Produces tutorials and shows her work in progress pretty in depth (not as common with cosplayers these days, so I think she's appreciated for that)>IIRC she has a degree in Theatre/Costume Design, so if she's cocky her work quality at least backs it up>Personally I followed her for a long time for cosplay stuff without ever even knowing who she was married to or who ProJared was. Can't speak for others, though I'm sure it didn't hurt her popularity>"She had sex with my husband", top 10 anime deaths of all timeJared "Pigeondick" Knabenbauer
>I've actually never really known or cared about ProJared or NormalBoots before this, I just wanted to call him a Pigeondick.>Maybe someone more informed can give a backstory, though again I'm not sure if it really matters>big yikes >>804556Previous GG Threads:
>Jon vs Dan speculations, are the Suzy nudes real or fake, blah blah blah, old news. Seriously, don't ask to be spoonfed this old dried up milk. Go read about it on your own. >There is a whole subreddit dedicated to GG Rule 34 where they sexualize the girlfriends/wives as well as the grumps called r/polygrumps. Suzy once long ago tweeted in support of polygrumps, but it seems like an especially toxic corner of their already toxic fanbase. I doubt she would confirm that support today.>GG sells a merch line called Game Gyaru "based on Arin and Danny, reimagined as female characters inspired by the anime series Dirty Pair, named Arina and Daniella respectively". It's a blatant tracing of the characters from "Dirty Pair" that they did not initially acknowledge.>GG release body pillows of Dan and Arin. They sell out very quickly. It's gross: >>792883>Guess what Jon's an even worse blatantly sexist/racist person than we ever could have imagined>Katie/Suzy/deviantARTKatie (Most recent GG drama unrelated to PigeonGate 2019 ):
>Suzy claims she and Arin have been together since 2002. Arin's mysterious deviantART ex Katie shows up from an apparent cryogenic sleep after 10+ years and throws an insane hissy-fit about how Arin was pursuing HER during that time and she turned HIM down. >Thinks Suzy poisoned Arin against being BEST FRIEND her despite the fact that she was married, disappeared from the internet, lived across the country, and was definitely leading Arin on for some time. Arin seems to have bought her some gifts in this time.>Claims any of this is important at all because she was Arin's inspiration for a character "a woman being beaten and raped but wanting Egoraptor to be her knight in shining armor even though she's an ex-assassin">Now obsessed with Arin/Suzy/GG, obsessed with the notion that Suzy is somehow copying her every move and personality trait (again, despite the fact that she just now reemerged and Suzy was probably ~13 when all of this started)>Consensus: Arin was a dumb teenage boy who was probably involved with both of them, the situation makes Suzy look incredibly sane. Also it's been 17 years who gives a shit. (Guess what: Katie does)>Obviously overshadowed by current milk, but I just feel like we haven't seen the last of Katie. Probably in like 5 years she'll catch up on the current drama and have a real hot take. No. 820735
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Apparently, Jared logs into twitter every now & then to block people…
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Apologies if this has already been pointed out a while ago, but this was the most recent tweet Jared liked. I honestly don't remember seeing it a few days ago, but that could just be me.
No. 820757
>>820747Feels like it lol
The thing her dumb brain doesn't realize is that if she keeps whining and playing a
victim, more and more people will hate her.
Imagine the shitstorm if Jared ends up in jail for pedo allegations.
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I get the feeling that Holly isn't going to like being called out by someone with the same illness as her beloved's ABUSIVE wife.
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>>820640 Holly: please tell me what I've done or need to owe up to uwu I won't believe anything you say I did wrong tho
People all over the internet have been telling her but she isn't interested in listening or responding. Someone on PULL wrote a lengthy manifesto on what she did wrong and needs to explain. Bit much and it leaves out the entire defending a pedo thing but maybe someone needs to point Holly at it and have her respond line by line.
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>>820825>People all over the internet have been telling her but she isn't interested in listening or responding.She’s not responding because she’s blocked them lol
Most of the ones she’s blocked have been posted on lolcow, so she’s clearly lurking.
No. 820998
>>820976You would think. But Holly outright calls them liars. And stands by Jared because they are liars in her mind. Holly doesn't want to an hero because of people she hurt because they're all liars and
abusive. She wants to an hero because she's hurting.
No. 821007
>>820998It's funny because if she had any humility about the situation at all people would actually feel bad for her for sleeping with someone who wound up being a monster, but instead she defends said monster to the point of destroying her life. Who won't even be with her 6 months from now. Holly can't even play the
victim correctly.
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Holly's merch is garbage lmaooooo. How the fuck do you sell a brand new shirt with a hole in it and fuck up the size?
No. 821070
>>821052I seriously think there is a good chance jared and holly break it off relatively soon. They're both being cornered for their shitty actions, and the pressure will make them turn on each other and blame one another for making things worse (I imagine jared will blame holly).
I will kek my hardest kek when she inevitably pulls the "I was
victim too," card to get out of standing by a predator.
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what is denica's problem? this insertion where she doesn't belong is getting seriously creepy, she's legit talking as if she was there watching these people fuck
No. 821115
>>821099did she ship that order herself and know she did something shitty I wonder.
>>821103Ross is happy with being a cuck everybody! God these people are such assholes.
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She was at it again… she found someone's post mentioning HoJared who didn't even link either of them. Needless to say she's deleted most of this but if you go to user mentioned you see their post.
No. 821159
>>821153Exactly my thoughts lol.
Wait until she gets ghosted by her forbidden true love "Diath" and catches him in bed with someone who "doesn't know magic". Will Holly cast a firebolt on them?
No. 821176
>>821158she kept the “sorry bruh” tweet up lmao
someone pls screencap the thread for it, it’s wild, holly is wild
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>>821176feat. crazy old denica not getting how being an unstable person works.
No. 821184
>>821178Did she conveniently forget that it was
Jared who aired the dirty laundry first?
No. 821185
>>821184TBH when have the facts or any glimmer of reality ever stopped Holly or any of her lil flying monkeys?
Truth? How gauche! Here at the trash witch coven we ignore such nonsense and make up our own shit so the attention stays on the real
victim: meeeeeee!
No. 821186
>>821178>>821184Lol as an impartial bystander to this mess and not understanding who Denica is, Holly and her are the exact type of bitches that would gaslight abuse
victims to say fuck all to save their own hide.
Holly is out here calling everyone
abusive for sharing their version of events, and expressing how they felt. She wants her narrative to be the truth because she's an awful bitch. Jared could not give a fuck about her but she probably thinks his silence is loyalty to her because she's an egotistical bitch.
What's her plan? To grind twitter all day posting her truth until everyone and their gran is convinced she is a
victim? To marry Jared on television while we all clap? She needs to prove her and Jared > Heidi and Jared, when the rest of society thinks unfaithful men that take advantage of their fans are disgusting and should be shunned.
Maniac.
No. 821206
>>821201Holly's behavior is way more
abusive and manipulative than anything we've seen from Heidi. Holly is probably threatening Jared on the daily that she is going to kill herself because of this. I doubt he cares, but if he actually believes he was in an
abusive relationship before he is in for a rude awakening with Holly.
No. 821209
>>821206Jared hiding somewhere in the desert, telling his other side chick that Holly is crazy too.
Also if it's true that Holly went to visit Jared, she was there for only like 2 days? With her failed career and obviously more free time, wouldn't she stay with her ~true love~ longer?
Or did Jared tell her to go home, like Preg does to Shuwu kek.
No. 821222
>>821111>>821120Most academic researchers spend their entire career focusing on a tiny obscure subject that nobody gives a shit about outside of their subfield. The people who 'make it' in the profession tend to be a little off in at least one way and oftentimes many ways. Alternately, if she's a student or postdoc then this could be escapism for her because her life is shit.
>>821158She legit sounds like an incel with her self-pitying, attention-seeking behavior, and public threats of self-harm
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>>821158For more clarification.
The op of the thread screen captured it as well.
Why are none of Holly’s friends telling her to stop posting on Twitter? It seems like they like egging on the drama, to be quite honest.
No. 821238
>>821233Either they tried to earlier (most likely in private) and failed because Holly is too busy pretending to be a
victim to listen to anyone (seems likely as she's ignoring
valid advice and criticism)
or her friends saw the shit storm brewing a mile away and decided to bail on her unhinged ass before it dragged them into the mud with her
No. 821250
>>821248Thanks man.
>>821247I'm on phone so I was a little bit handicapped, but I'll check more thoroughly next time.
No. 821264
>>821242B-but my baby birdie dick prince Jared said it so it must be true!!! uwu Also he will come and get me and we will get married and it’s gonna be forever you guys!! Im not like his wife, he’s gonna change for me I’m sure!!!
//barfs in the corner
No. 821277
>>821267Not saying Holly has it by any means but she's acting exactly like someone I know who has extremely bad BPD, which at least points to a serious unusual level of emotional immaturity and inability to take REAL responsibility for her actions. The recklessness with relationships, the diehard attention-seeking here where she's throwing a pity-party and pretending to feel remorse without actually apologizing for her wrongdoings as a way of proud self-flagellation.
It's never "I'm sorry I intentionally destroyed two marriages" but rather "I'm sorry YOU feel that way. Actually, I'm sorry for saying YOU can't feel that way. Please be mean to me, boo-hoo! Just keep in mind I'm a suicidal martyr who never did ANYTHING wrong!"
It's a public display intended to further indulge in her own self-centered worldview and garner MORE attention, which is what she's aiming for every time she makes a post pitying herself like this and loudly threatening to "disappear." She's on a megaphone trying to market herself as tragic because she loves it and doesn't feel bad about her actions at all. "I'm more famous than Kanye now!"
No. 821284
>>821277>>821267Whoa, Holly loves to make us unpack.
1) Mental health advocate is publicly sharing her strange "self harm" techniques and disguising it with "I'm trying to stop."
2) > you have every right to say WHATEVER you want on the internet and about me.
Passive-aggressive.
3) >I'm sorry.
If you don't know what the fuck you're sorry for, you're lying, disingenuous and patronizing.
>>821277She can't go to sleep because everyone is soooo wrong about her. That's why she continues to attempt every strategy in the book to change the minds of a group of anons and twitter users. Holly dismisses all the people who support her, Kiwifarms and other large groups that side with Jared. She names a few groups (including us) because she can't stand not being seen as the heroine in this ordeal. But she's sorrrrrrry.
One of her defenses about not apologizing for the THINGS she's done is because she won't apologize to abuser. But no one is asking her to apologize to Heidi specifically, at least not most people. It's her behavior, her inability to wait for a divorce to be finalized, to mention Ross AT ALL, to defend Jared and to call people other than Heidi, liars. I might think she should apologize to Heidi, but I wouldn't ask Holly to do it because I can actually buy that she's so deluded by Jared's dick that Heidi is an evil person. Everything else is a cluster fuck of awful by Holly's own doing.
Ironic that she called Heidi out for "bragging" about being #1 trending on twitter while she "brags" that she's more famous than Kanye.
No. 821286
>>821267She needs to go into a cocoon of self reflection and come out on the other side ready to apologize and move on. Until then she desperately needs to GTFO the internet. This has crossed the line and it's clearly really affecting her mental state. She needs help before she ropes herself because I don't want that, as much as I troll.
I don't personally understand cutters and people who self harm, never have. I had friends who did it in high school and they always said it made them feel a lot better when they hated themselves. Holly doesn't cut but she does seek out pain by reading anonymous internet comments about her. Meaning she deeply hates herself? But why would that be if she did nothing wrong in her eyes? Could it be she knows deep down she may have had a part in causing her friends marriage to implode? That wanting to "save" Jared was selfish, irresponsible, and not her place? He wasn't a wounded sky rat he was a 30 year old man capable of making his own decisions.
But that's in the past now. Only thing she can do to feel better is move on and know things probably won't be so crazy 6 months or a year from now. Where are her friends and family? Why aren't they keeping an eye on her and helping her get away from the computer? Someone needs to smack the phone out of her hand and take her on a fucking walk or something. Even Jared should be stepping up for her but he's not.
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>>821267>>821284SJW driven pop psych have termed it Digital Self Harm. Check the sources of the top hits. Of course Holly will play this card.
No. 821310
>>821308>>821267It
is self-harm but that doesn't mean it's not manipulative, especially when Holly has thousands of fans that can (and have) defend her shitty actions.
No. 821311
>>821267Nobody:
Holly: I'm gonna commit uwucide
>>821284I love how she has been insinuating so hard that Heidi has a personality disorder when Holly's posting like a walking talking DSM entry for BPD. She has to be the least self aware cow on the site in a long time. Imagine being the haggard ex wife of a gamer funnyman and thinking, at any point in time, you were more famous than Kanye.
No. 821315
>>821286Self harm can be a kind of offshoot of OCD. Basically your brain forcing you to do a repetitive illogical action to relieve your anxiety. It’s hard to make sense of if you’ve never experienced compulsions like that.
And I can totally get that. If she had just posted this one statement, then I really wouldn’t have an issue with the whole self harm thing. But it’s been multiple posts about hurting herself on purpose. It’s basically the equivalent of a cutter posting pictures of themselves doing it. Not cool especially when you’re a mental health influencer. That’s what she should be apologizing for in this instance.
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>>821287Hmmm, well I understand those that strongly side with Heidi want Holly to apologize to her and her attempts to paint Heidi in the worst possible light to get Jared off the hook for his predatory ways.
Hey, I'd love it for Holly to apologize to Heidi, not only for interfering with her marriage for her own selfish reasons, but for her cruelty towards Heidi when saying she's unfixable. She may have half-assed apologized for that, but only because she had to admit it was repulsive behavior. I suppose I can see why Holly is nuts enough to not want to apologize to her, but you'd think she could get enough sense to apologize for everything else she has been doing.
Imagine calling out her husband's fan base as sexist for trying to give her an endearing label, and then calling young women who have been manipulated, used for sex and ghosted, liars.
No. 821322
>>821317I don't think she should apologize to Heidi because it's very clear she is not sorry. I do wish she would stop painting Heidi as an abuser and manipulator though. Holly has displayed more
abusive and manipulative tactics than even Jared in this situation at this point. I have no doubt Jared is a massive piece of shit but he learned to shut up real quick.
I wouldn't say I felt sorry for Holly when all this initially broke. I had sympathy for how the internet would treat her though because the stain of infidelity follows a woman around for far longer than it does a man. As soon as she tried to paint this narrative against Heidi all my sympathy melted away though, and she has dug her hole deeper every time she spoke. For how she has acted these past few weeks she absolutely deserves all the shit she gets.
No. 821324
>>821322Well I'd like her to apologize if she was a different person, but she's Holly. A dumbshit that only feels empathy for herself.
Holly's initial reply is what really made people turn sour on her. She should have taken a cue from her ex-husband and noped out of the situation. Afterall, she may be a homewrecker, but it was ultimately Jared's vows to his wife. Ross would have said nothing and the internet would have taken sides. Or Holly could have released the messages of Heidi approving the relationship and said it was Heidi would encouraged it at first. Then went on with her business. If you have sex with a married man you must meet with the stigma and consequences. You can't go the
abusive route because you never have sex with a
victim of abuse while trying to help them leave the relationship. Holly can't accept the consequences and needs a clear bad guy to take all the blame for her. She went down kicking and screaming and sacrificing any dignity to get some kind of upper hand. It's really pathetic when you think about it.
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been going through her old tweets
this one is gold
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the dd crew made a bunch of spotify playlists based on characters from dd and uh.. interesting choice of words here. not a huge dd fan but pretty sure white zinfandel isn't mentioned in the game
No. 821345
>>821335From Heidi's words, Jared never mentioned Heidi, while Holly was absolutely full of vindictive hate towards Heidi. Holly really does love pretending the shitty stuff she does to others is stuff that's being done to her.
>>821325This head case is preaching poor medical advice and should be kicked off twitter for this superficial garbage. "Your animal brain." What pseudo intellectualism. When referring to your animal brain it's often talking about regulatory functions, fight or flight (sympathetic and parasympathetic systems) and often used by mental health counselors to help people understand their own actions, especially those suffering from PTSD. It's a starting point so you can begin to use CBT/DBT skills (peer-reviewed techniques that would ACTUALLY BE HELPFUL FOR THOSE SUFFERING FROM SELF HARM AND IDEATION). For her to use "animal-brain" so irresponsibly is unethical. Our brains are much more complex than "scared uwu animal brains." Jealousy really shouldn't be explained in the way Holly does.
>>821343Mmmm. I was just going to say 10k points for Tom Waits reference.
>>821344It is a popular wine which is why Heidi was drinking it in the first place. I wish I could send her an expensive bottle for introducing us to the toxicity of ProJared and Holly and for all the
victims of ProJared. ProHolly would have gotten away with it if Heidi wanted to crawl away and cut her emotional losses. Instead she made sure those cunts got what they deserved even if it cost her. Vindictive or not, petty or not, she clearly outed a predator.
No. 821366
>>821325I love how she keeps mentioning "animal brain" in her tweets like she's a bastion of rational thought. uwu just over come your dumb basic animal impulses like me, my logic is Vulcan solid and I literally never make mistakes. Excuse me while I continue to torture myself by reading negative comments about me online for no rational reason whatsoever.
-Holly "the hypocrite" Conrad
No. 821371
>>821286Personally in extreme bouts of anxiety I’ve had moments thinking of self harm. I can’t speak for depression but with anxiety it’s like wanting to divert your brain from a mental loop it’s been stuck in, something like pain is extremely forward and forces it’s way into the forefront of your mind. It diverts your thoughts.
It’s like when your phone os is glitching out and the best thing to do is to force a restart for it to get it back up and operating. Pain or self harm is that mental restart. Take what I say with grain of salt as this is all my personal takes on the matter.
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>>821286>>821371As someone who spent a lot of their youth self harming due to depression, an easy way to explain it is that often, the physical pain distracts from and is easier to manage than the emotional/mental pain felt.
That, and on a scientific level, endorphins are released when you are physically injured, and for a brief time, those endorphins make you feel better, like some form of high.
There are probably more individual reasons for why people self harm but from what I understand, those are the most common reasons
No. 821419
>>821409i'm sure she's never had this much attention thrown her way in all her time of being well known, girl's got a horrible case of word vomit.
i'm interested to see how the next few months play out
No. 821427
>>821206I'm assuming Jared tried to put distance between them (probably from her Twitter tirades) and now she's threatening suicide. to make him stay.
>>821209>Jared hiding somewhere in the desert, telling his other side chick that Holly is crazy too.At least when it comes to Holly, he'd be telling the truth. Bitch is fucking nuts.
No. 821440
>>821427Watching her current behavior is a window to what Ross had to deal with when they were together. That dude is a saint for not snapping in his loveless, sexless marriage with a full-time
victim/snowflake who threatens suicide over literally nothing. I'm certain now that when he was talking about emotional abuse and suicide threats in his VR video, it was about Holly, not his other ex.
>>821430Are you for real?
No. 821452
>>821449Yeah. And somehow I think Holly isn't the type to have friends who keep it real - real enough to tell her dumb ass to get help and get off the fucking Internet. That self-righteous ego couldn't handle it.
I think Ross's silence on the whole thing is super telling, and I do think Holly's passive aggressive narcissistic mind games did a number on him. Thank fuck they didn't have kids together.
No. 821458
>>821267>I am acknowledging that what I'm doing is fucked up and affecting the state of my own mental health even further>But I'm not going to stop! LOLMental health advocate & positive role model to those afflicted. Wowee.
Log the fuck out, Holly. What kind of message are you sending to your fans?
Remember kids: simply acknowledging your mental issues does NOT give you a free pass to continue harming yourself and/or others.
If anything, sounds like Holly is claiming "My illness is making me act this way!!! I can't stop!!!"
Break the fucking cycle, Holly. That's the only way you get better.
Gee, with all that therapy she claims to have done, it sure seems like she wasn't taught a single goddamn thing about how to deal with that kind of stuff.
inb4 "I'm just a person! I have flaws! It is my mental illness! And all these terrible people are making me do this! Since I have a mental illness, I cannot be responsible for my own behavior!!"
No. 821463
>>821452Right?
If she truly had any real friends who cared about her well-being, they'd be encouraging her to step back.
Or maybe if they tried she'd just accuse them of being
ABUSIVE.
Maybe that explains why she doesn't seem to have "real friends". All her "friends" seem to be continuing to urge her to go off.
No. 821471
>>821458I'm starting to wonder if it was Holly's therapist that said Holly couldn't be helped because any therapist worth their salt would tell you to avoid social media if it's a
trigger and she heard it as Heidi.
Psych docs will tell you they can't help if you are refusing to do the work and Holly really seems to be delusional about all this.
No. 821497
>>821343>Tom WaitsGreat taste.
>>821449 Makes sense now for Ross to be talking about Holly. Freakin Ross must have seen some shit. I know he wont spill the beans but i kinda wish he would.
No. 821500
>>821430GG=Game Grumps
KT=Some rando that Arin knew 15 years ago that turned into Suzy's stalker.
No. 821525
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I’m so fucking tired of reading Denica’s self posts.
Taken from a previous thread, you can see the activity symbol on the tweets which prove the tweets were sent by the person who took the screenshot.
You are irrelevant as fuck and trolling for every day several weeks now, for what? Attention from Holly? Jared? Lolcow? Heidi? Pathetic.
No. 821534
>>821525Oh god, Denica is more deranged than I originally thought.
Girl, go get a job and a few hobbies.
No. 821540
>>821525holy crap i never noticed. this girl has issues lmfao
i think she's stopped though, maybe us not acknowledging the selfpost tipped her over the edge and go full retard for heidi. for the past two(three?) threads there haven't been any WKs here so i guess she gave up
No. 821548
File: 1560401324504.jpeg (1.39 MB, 1125x1890, CA29B2E9-74D9-49C1-9573-A53BB3…)
This is bait.
No. 821549
File: 1560401418801.jpeg (572.93 KB, 1125x1261, 0A04DDE2-46ED-4617-9B22-FC1621…)
Still replying to criticism too.
No. 821550
>>821549comments like "this" she says. is she legit unable to see the harm she is deliberately causing someone else's mental condition through words like this?
alright if you really want to get over the hate and move on, do a purge. delete every stupid bullshit thing you said about anyone, yourself and jared included, just delete everything from today back to the month of may, go offline, give your laptop and phone to your roommate, just eat sleep and watch netflix for a week.
come the fuck ON, holly. at this point there's no more credibility you can lose, but don't make it irretrievable.
No. 821551
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Wow she is losing it
No. 821556
File: 1560402881484.jpeg (291.56 KB, 1242x1165, 14B116BE-C476-4709-8FEA-A1CE65…)
>>821551Is she referencing this thread, or…?
No. 821568
File: 1560404214542.jpeg (83.9 KB, 537x399, 1D65751D-F295-42B0-B4D9-2A2D48…)
Always relevant.
No. 821570
File: 1560404793143.png (93.58 KB, 635x828, Screenshot_6.png)
A majority of Holly's supporters are enabling her destructive behavior and are probably going to be the reason why she's going to end up committing Sudoku. The fact that the haturz are giving more solid advice than her stans is sad as hell.
No. 821571
>>821551Will one of her friends please put a parental lock on her phone or change her passwords or something? Jesus fucking Christ holly.
“I can’t figure out how to make the hate stop!” You literally just have to click one button my guy: “Log out.”
No. 821572
>>821551She legit seems drunk in her first reply. It's barely coherent.
Sipping some white zinfandel? No wait, probably a more unique™ type of alcohol.
No. 821575
File: 1560406207396.png (44.27 KB, 613x515, Screenshot_7.png)
>>821571Her "friends" would only tell her what's being said about her and Jared anyway. 10/10 friends,
totally concerned about her mental health!
No. 821582
File: 1560407793353.png (198.61 KB, 800x1035, Screenshot_2019-06-13-02-35-56…)
Why are holly fans stupid?
No. 821587
>>821582I love people like this. As if the person they're replying to doesn't also have the same freedom to use social media that Holly does.
Freedom of speech (and similar adjacent ideas) do not protect you from getting called out on asshole behavior.
No. 821601
File: 1560415060841.jpg (137.49 KB, 1376x827, IMG_20190613_103022.jpg)
kekking at what holly retweeted
what would her response even be?
>Well through DnD I started thinking I really am my self-insert character (which is basically me with magic powers) and I started a forbidden relationship with another character Diath (played by ProJared) which made me go and homewreck an entire marriage. Jared is now fucking someone else and ignoring me but I believe me and Diath will get our happy forever after. I also tried convincing everyone on Twitter that "I know magic" but my career flopped instead…
No. 821627
File: 1560427892242.png (2.37 MB, 1376x2048, Screenshot_20190613-070920.png)
>>821548She posted this on her Instagram, I thought the comment was funny
No. 821629
File: 1560428154388.png (632.51 KB, 720x1208, tn.png)
>>821525sage for no contribution except i was reading this manga and this was all i could think about
No. 821732
>>821717If this were true, Nulyu's deleted tweets would appear as "tweet unavailable"
So her "clarification" is also a lie
No. 821733
>>821627She has 8k fans and she's still whining on the internet? I'm surprised the number is that large considering what a troll she's been these past few weeks.
You know, I honestly think she can't get off twitter is because of the same reason Momokun didn't. They don't want to be forgotten so they can keep up their online careers.
No. 821742
File: 1560448407310.png (19.26 KB, 604x191, wow.png)
Holly's fans are a mess.
>Jared is being investigated for reviving nudes from minors but at least Holly is loyal to him!
No. 821749
>>821733If she wants to keep her online presence, she could stay but tweet normal stuff.
Instead she's threatening suicide to lolcow because we dare to criticize her? Bravo Holly you dumb bitch.
No. 821761
>>821758Does it look good on anyone? It's an out dated hair style and wouldn't even work on ultra chic models with perfect oval faces.
>>821749Well she can't stand people thinking she's the bad guy. Plus she really wants her relationship with Jared and was looking forward to it. All she had to do was wait till she got Jared's divorce, that's what he was promising her. She DESERVED Jared for all her patience and support. I"m sure the way it worked out crushed all her hard work of vilifying Heidi to Jared.
No. 821771
File: 1560452457917.jpg (143.76 KB, 1059x765, Glennclose.jpg)
She's still going.
Hate to bust out Yoda but
>do or no not, there is no try
No. 821787
>>821771She's saying that as if Heidi held him hostage for those 6 months.
Holly, you do realize that he was also fucking other girls besides you during that time? :^)
No. 821790
>>821771Does this idiot not understand that that's
not how marriage works? It makes me worried as fuck about her marriage to Ross. According to her backwards logic, she broke up with him in February 2018 when she developed feelings for PedoJared.
No. 821798
File: 1560454544840.jpg (46.28 KB, 525x547, 45.JPG)
>Holly trying to force people to stop criticizing her, threatening suicide and self-harm left and right
>Meanwhile Ross-
No. 821802
>>821771So Jared who was the one supporting Heidi, had a hard time leaving? This would only make sense if:
a. Heidi was emotionally/physically abusing Jared - something that has been pretty much debunked through Holly's own messages where she shows Heidi being supportive of Jared and Holly admitting she was wrong for accusing her for being
abusive(which she's now conveniently forgetting exists)
or b. Jared knew Heidi had real dirt on him or had ways of finding dirt (the nude exchanges, fucking fans, sent dick pics to minors) besides for the cheating. All that is fact.
So Holly is basically admitting Jared was more concerned about saving his reputation and stayed Heidi for at least 6 more months despite Holly claiming he was her first
true LOVE. That's so fucking pathetic on Holly's end.
No. 821804
>>821802>That's so fucking pathetic on Holly's end.She is acting pretty pathetic and she's doing it in the public eye, something she most definitely will never recover from because the internet never forgets.
Shes acting like the obsessive side ho that can't let go that you see in Lifetime movies (or Fatal Attraction) and we can see her losing her damn mind. She's so obsessed with Heidi while Jared sits on the side line not defending Holly whatsoever so she's pretty much just a loose cannon. Here's to hoping she doesn't know where Heidi lives.
No. 821813
File: 1560457127753.jpg (548.93 KB, 1080x1852, Sorrysorrysorry.jpg)
This bitch really cheapens the word "sorry".
No. 821820
>>821813It’s weird when you see someone unironically use “im sorry you feel that way”
That ivy is spitting out some truth there and I’m surprise holly didn’t go with “tell me what I did wrong!”
No. 821833
File: 1560460227348.png (102.42 KB, 610x817, 89898.png)
>>821813with friends like these who need enemies?
No. 821836
>>821833>by constantly forcing yourself on herOh ffs, I hope he doesn't breed. Nothing at all is stopping Holly from taking a break from the internet. And you can't shout on the fucking internet.
Are these people made out of glass? Is that why they're so retardedly fragile?
No. 821847
File: 1560461429944.jpg (83.42 KB, 1410x546, Untitled-2.jpg)
Seems like he's doing a lot of projecting.
No. 821848
>>821847How old is this dude?
Sidenote, at this point we could start a thread on Holly and her whiteknights alone. However since GG milk is dry idk how others would feel about divorcing her and her friends from the thread.
No. 821850
>>82184839 apparently.
Holly def deserves her own thread.
No. 821852
>>821847I don't think she's ever come out and said but she definitely has strabismus in one of her eyes. It's very obvious in some gifs/videos where her good eye won't move but the other one just gradually drifts inward. You can do therapy to fix it but we all know how Holly feels about actually helping herself
>>821828>he was trying to leave!!!I'm sure this IS what Jared told her…and all the other girls he was fucking lmao.
>>821847Dunno who this faggot is but if he's a DM then I'm sure he'd be happy to host Holly and let her play out her slut hobo fantasies with Strix.
No. 821854
File: 1560462187309.png (83.15 KB, 720x413, 20190613_173955.png)
>>821847Funny how seeing people attack Holly
triggers him, but he has
no problem at all going after Heidi based on hearsay alone.
No. 821855
File: 1560462435864.jpeg (39.93 KB, 640x350, 1559410551992.jpeg)
>>821854Oh yeah, he's definitely projecting.Holly won't fuck you Matt, she has one eye on Diath and the other on Jared.
No. 821857
File: 1560462486591.png (124.47 KB, 720x931, 20190613_174618.png)
>>821854Gotta love how these 'warriors' are all sating that seeing people 'bully' Holly
triggers them SO badly that they have to 'Stand up to the hate!' by… slinging
more hate at someone else.
No. 821861
File: 1560462960461.png (374.71 KB, 720x686, 20190613_175614.png)
lmao
No. 821864
File: 1560463396980.jpeg (782.42 KB, 1125x1342, E92F5840-690C-4EED-9D00-607C65…)
>>821861He’s been whiteknighting Holly and Jared on this account as well. Dude needs help.
No. 821868
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>>821863so this is the kind of guy going to bat for Holly eh? (not Matt mercer obvs)
No. 821870
>>821869Those actual friends probably left long ago not wanting to deal with holly anymore
Especially if holly does the whole “you’re being
abusive to me!!” over the slightest bit of criticism
No. 821885
>>821879…Nuh-uh! That's only if you believe that whoring extortionist-cunt Heidi! Holly says the """
victims""" are dishonest, so they're dishonest!
Holly is love. Holly is life.
/s
No. 821890
File: 1560465761849.png (53.18 KB, 616x360, _mangosmoothies-11392984745943…)
>>821864>>821861>>821847Yeah, this is definitely the same dude.
No surprise Holly attracts dudes who can't take it when something they like is criticized.
No. 821896
File: 1560465980277.gif (1.03 MB, 160x160, jenlaughspittake.gif)
>>821855>one eye on Diath and the other on Jaredanon, i'm dead.
No. 821903
File: 1560466462783.jpg (43.45 KB, 500x323, mental.jpg)
>>821833All that Ivy person was saying was for Holly to get help to stop her self-destructive behaviors and this guy has to barge in and yell "How dare you stage an intervention! She's already under enough stress from her inability to disengage from Twitter and it'll be your fault when she dies from it because you're being meeeeeaaaaaannnnn!"
No. 821907
>>821903or "Holly's going to die and it's going to be YOUR FAULT." Holly's fans are just as
toxic as her affair with Jared.
No. 821914
File: 1560467015000.jpg (21.63 KB, 577x169, MattCowson.jpg)
>>821835Hurp. His whole Twitter has been like this for days.
No. 821919
>>821914Fucking kek. Neurodiversity my dainty anus. People with legit issues like this adapt and work their asses off to keep up with "normies" and then there's this whinging little fuck who's using MUH ILNESS as a splash-guard for taking any responsibility for himself
If you've gone 30 years without learning to deal with yourself to the point of not having meaningful relationships, that's on you, not your illness.
No. 821940
>>821914>I've suffered because of neurodiversity! waaaah Meanwhile
>>821890>you're just a dumb fuck Nice, but the mental health community and autism community would like to stop your whining, take responsibility and stop perpetuating stigmas.
No. 821945
>>821914You can be mentally ill/neuro-divergent AND be
abusive/manipulative
That's a big fucking thing when it comes to dealing with your issues is knowing you can be a bad person even tho you have problems.
This person is cut from the same uwu-
victim cloth as Holly
No. 821946
File: 1560470138719.jpg (123.58 KB, 1080x1147, IMG_20190613_195449.jpg)
In response to a tweet about DnD. So it's safe to say that Strix is done for good?
No. 821947
File: 1560470309386.jpg (152.44 KB, 1079x992, IMG_20190613_195732.jpg)
Sage for tinfoil, but looks like she's gone through Jared's likes today lol (since this is the one tweet Jared's interacted with since the drama started). If she's secure with him, why would she need to go through his social media?
No. 821958
>>821947Anybody wanna bet that Jared already cut her off?
Heidi said that he neglected her and gave her the silent treatment whenever she was upset. What if he's doing that to Holly now? We're seeing her publicly self-destruct without validation from him.
Imagine going through all the work to pry a married man away from his wife, just to see him outed as a predator, then get ignored by him. Lol
No. 821970
>>821946don't worry, her and jared (who TOTALLY is going to stay with her forever and not cheat and abandon her) are going to have a strix and diath themed wedding!! T-this isn't the end of Strix's story!!!
>>821958Oh absolutely. If their love is the truest, most purest and non-
abusive of loves, then why aren't they together now? He used her as a stepping stone out of his marriage and he's going to keep on stepping. She's fucking delusional to think otherwise.
>>821961kek
No. 821989
>>821958He totally did cut her off, her whining on twitter now is very similar to that when she UwU wanted to help """""a friend""" to drop his ""
abusive relationship"""" and threatened to kill herself because of that.
No. 822017
File: 1560478105918.png (454.44 KB, 530x539, sketch.PNG)
No. 822020
>>821848>>821849Calm down there buckaroo, this thread is not full yet.
Also GG generally has no milk atm so what would their thread be about exactly? They just wouldn't have one.
No. 822025
File: 1560479185328.png (211.34 KB, 1063x770, ironic.png)
>holly likes this tweet
>only agrees with it a base level
>op states that this doesn't apply to people who sexually assault/abuse people
No. 822037
File: 1560482851840.jpg (57.16 KB, 625x716, jaredhollychangeorg.jpg)
They've made a change.org petition >>
No. 822040
>>822037They set their goal incredibly low.
Wonder why?
No. 822043
File: 1560483679743.png (561.81 KB, 1108x1340, mistakes sorry.png)
she adressed the rana fiasco
No. 822050
>>822020No one mentioned making one, just that she needed one of her own. This thread has been 95% about Holly and it would be a Holly thread so I would assume about Holly.
>>822037Just when we thought her fans couldn't get more stupid. This isn't going to do shit.
>>822043>I tried to apologize"Waaah no one ever accepts my apologies! It was only a cancer survivor, I'm the real
victim here!"
No. 822054
>>822043Upside is we got a confirm from holly that it did happen
No need to dig up of old posts about it anymore
No. 822059
>>822050Honestly I think Holly getting her own would go to her head, she already feels she's gone more viral than Kanye. The milk is mostly Holly catering directly to us so she stays relevant, and it’ll go dry soon.
It's just repetitive at this point, since all the other people involved have tapped out there’s not much she has going for her.
I'm already getting bored over Holly’s, ”Desperate 30-something seeks attention online while complaining the whole time” schtick if I can be honest.
No. 822086
File: 1560495711318.jpg (279.16 KB, 1439x2124, IMG_20190614_090201.jpg)
>>822073Wait until you see the comments
No. 822168
>>822037I had a hard time believing this shit was real. How fucking self-martyring do you have to be??? Yikes.
Hopefully no one scams them out of the money they raise uwu
No. 822242
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>>822037Exactly
what is this going to achieve other than prove that a bunch of people still like them?
Nevermind the fact that Online Petitions are often useless.
No. 822243
>>822137Same. The only people who seem to be stretching this drama out are Holly & her stans. Literally
everyone else in this situation has moved on except her.
No. 822248
File: 1560540227905.png (35.48 KB, 594x296, danpirro.png)
Dan Pirro: "These 2 were the targets of a calculated smear campaign."
Also Dan Pirro: (See pic)
No. 822252
>>822248Blocking people who are there to start shit and trying to get you to respond to insults - Heidi
Actively searching criticism and insults that you aren't even tagged in - Holly
It's not even a matter of guilt. It's a matter of who is more logical.
No. 822256
File: 1560541378233.png (66.84 KB, 524x570, victimblaming.png)
"BuT tHeY dElEtEd TwEeTs So ThEy MUST bE lYiNg!"
No. 822285
>>822256They were deleted most likely because they are going to be used as evidence in court, you skidmarks.
Honestly, I'm just itching to find out what the end result of the legal side of this will be.
Will the stans accept the results of a legal trial or will they ignore it in favor of their own kangaroo court?
No. 822332
File: 1560551427570.png (179.38 KB, 1051x1356, Screenshot_20190615-082617~2.p…)
Not super topical but it cracks me up that Holly turned out to be a fucking demon and Suzy seems to be a genuinely good friend.
No. 822334
>>822332I think a lot of suzy's issues were from her being bipolar and being untreated for it until kind of recently when she came out with it on twitter.
Now she seems to be doing a lot better with losing weight and work stuff.
No. 822439
>>822256omg these people. at least one of the parties involved is literally underaged NOW. and jared acknowledged them by apologising to them. it's a crime no matter what age the kid
says they are. the kid can't consent and so they sure as hell can't legally vouch for their own age either. fuck, the sheer the stupidity of these loophole-seekers - it's okay to sext a 15yo guys, we found a way!
No. 822602
File: 1560609128679.jpg (266.11 KB, 1440x1814, IMG_20190615_163156.jpg)
lmao @ delusional kiwis
No. 822607
>>822602Jared got kicked out of Normal Boots for his conduct with fans. He's never getting that back. All his former friends have turned on him. Game Grumps, Normal Boots, Hidden Block, WotC, and anyone else on the west coast with a brain.
If he tries to make a YouTube comeback, he'll need a new group of friends. Maybe some of those woman-haters he's relying on to smear his ex-wife lol
No. 822620
File: 1560612613419.jpeg (315.91 KB, 750x901, C47D54E9-B0FC-4DA9-A218-BD1D12…)
Holly only ever responds to positive comments when she can twist them into the negative, and people still think she should be doing Twitch streams on mental health when she’s still spiraling?
Ok.
No. 822634
>>822626Pretty much, she thinks painting herself as a coward makes her an ~uwu fragile babby who needs to be protected awww~
Yet she wasn't afraid to cheat on her husband, get involved with her friend's husband, publicly threaten suicide to random people as a mean of manipulation all while being known as a public persona who does mental health twitch streams.
uwu
No. 822663
>>822658I agree with the other anon, everyone knows that ross is handling it well, at this point no one cares about the new vids hes uploading unless he talk about the holly thing.
Unless he does something stupid or brings up anything interesting i dont think we need to have posts that are just about how well hes doing because no one really cares
No. 822690
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She straight up liked some post comparing her to Monica Lewinsky. One of the most famous mistresses in the states. This whole situation is just ridiculous.
No. 822851
File: 1560651311999.jpeg (182.16 KB, 720x1196, DD2CA30F-A514-46C6-BA8B-991ED9…)
She’s so pathetic. Really, what is this petition even going to do?
No. 822855
>>822707the kfarms Holly boner is so inexplicable
she is exactly what most people there would describe as a special snowflake sjw
No. 822858
File: 1560652487058.jpg (39.06 KB, 768x214, holly.jpg)
>>822851That subreddit is doing a noble job of keeping things on topic
No. 822864
File: 1560652907562.png (28.54 KB, 568x254, fancomments1.png)
>>822851These two have the right idea.
No. 822871
File: 1560653146920.png (40.6 KB, 632x388, fancomments2.png)
>>822864Okay,
a lot of the replies are funny as hell!
No. 822873
File: 1560653401328.png (36.33 KB, 576x292, DeniseWalz.png)
Just say that you hate minors & think they shouldn't have rights, Denise.
No. 822875
File: 1560653709948.png (280.07 KB, 703x1495, Trioxin.png)
L O FUCKIN L
No. 822877
File: 1560654007820.png (58.58 KB, 568x596, TrashOracle.png)
Love the responses this 'Trash Oracle' person is giving; that the proof/evidence comes from legal professionals, not DCA's super-speshul Discord-server.
>"my people did the work and we feel he got a raw deal if that changes your mind."
What ever happened to 'facts over feels' dude?
No. 822882
File: 1560655111796.png (63.73 KB, 580x620, dumbdan.png)
Included replies because this person is just so painfully ignorant.
Body/Sex 'positivity' blogs were also a magnet for many vulnerable people with lots of insecurities who were susceptible to being emotionally manipulated.
No. 822891
File: 1560656134744.png (54.46 KB, 580x456, dumbdan1.png)
Woah, slow down there, Dan!
No. 822894
File: 1560656294633.png (20.76 KB, 634x222, PIbadass.png)
Meanwhile PaladinIvresse a.k.a Matt Lawson over here straight up threatening people…
No. 822896
File: 1560656640511.png (47.15 KB, 580x526, Deniseknows.png)
Ah, so Denise has "been involved" in this situation "for over a year"?
No. 822906
File: 1560657781793.png (28.45 KB, 580x268, danhates.png)
>"im not supporting hate speech or anything."See
>>822248 No. 823007
>>822873Imagine
victim blaming underaged women at the time for cool mom points. Denise needs to fuck off
>without facts
>teens post dozens of screen caps from snap and tumblr
>jared nudes and dick pics okay??
No. 823043
>>822891One of them is still a minor though, the
victim blaming is wild from these people. Bet they wouldn't be singing the same tune if that happened to their relative.
No. 823064
File: 1560702326066.jpg (384.29 KB, 1440x2300, IMG_20190616_182110.jpg)
Now these are some mental gymnastics
At the same time
>Heidi wrote a dumb live journal post when she was a teenager back in 2005, this proves she's an evil narc set to ruin men like innocent Jared
>Oh and Holly's cool because she's loyal regardless of Jared's escapades, BTW who is Ross again?
No. 823134
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>>823115i can't believe we somehow missed this. the scrots on KF have all but doxxed chai, but this is central to the whole pedo allegation bit.
i'm gonna cap the most relevant post from KF (1/2)
this comment sums up my thoughts best
>"While finding out if the hospitalization story is true would be interesting, it is besides the point. The bigger problem is that this person has provided two very different accounts of the same period, which leans towards not believing either, or indeed any other, statements of theirs."i genuinely don't know what to believe now lmao
No. 823136
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>>823134(2/2)
the archive link for the post this matter comes from is
https://archive.fo/CEpgE No. 823140
>>823134>>823136samefag sorry, didn't want to add more running commentary to caps
the most incriminating bit about this is honestly chai making a hugeass medium post about memory loss from nov. 2015 - may 2016, which overlaps greatly with the time he says he was exchanging nudes with jared from march - july 2016.
basically either he's lying about the hospitalization bit, which doesn't make him look very trustworthy about anything else as in if he can attention whore about a mental illness he can sure as hell attention whore about nonexistent nudes exchanged
otoh if the hospitalization thing is true i don't see how he sleeps for 16 hours a day and in the remaining 8 hours spring up to a phone/computer and sexts and sends nudes, kind of a lot to expect from an incontinent patient
the scrots on KF are so certain about chai lying about nudes being exchanged that they're suggesting jared sue chai.
i didn't doubt chai for a second before now, but this is putting a cloud over his whole story.
not to mention that his friend charlie doesn't have a very detailed story to share on his own either (plus iirc he privated his twitter very soon after making the initial posts? please correct me if i'm wrong)
tl;dr: chai might be an unreliable narrator and the pedo accusations towards jared may or may not stick
No. 823161
>>823136His mental illness thing sounds so fake. He fell playing basketball, got amnesia and schizophrenia and then one day is just stopped? The focus on diapers and stuff is really weird and sounds like a badly written fanfic.
But isn't someone who makes some some weird shit like this also be the type to submit nudes?
How did Jared NOT get nudes from minors on his blog. It seems like running a porn blog of tumblr and soliciting nudes is kinda setting himself up for it.
No. 823164
>>823140 Did you just forget Normal Boots already investigated all this and that chai and charle aren't the only underaged people who talked about Jared doing that CP shit?
Or that people may delete things if they're getting tons of harassment?
Or that none of Jared's friend,the ones that knew him the most,said a single world against the CP charge?
Citing something you first call an article then a post that confirms they weren't in a hospital the whole time and no one monitored their phone or computer time for most of it and then going 'oops he can't of actually been a
victim during this time of trauma' is dumb.
No. 823173
>>823134
>i can't believe we somehow missed this. I can believe anons did read it earlier but didn't mention it here because it goes against the narrative being pushed or were afraid of the anti-KF torches and pitchforks.
>>823164Because their investigation is on par with that of law enforcement? lmao
No. 823197
>>823192October 2018? So these were being sent when he was professing his undying love and loyalty to Holly.
I hope one day she can see that shes been manipulated also, though her career online may never recover from this blind loyalty to Jared
No. 823210
>>823183More like they dropped him because a popular Youtuber exchanging nudes with fans is a problem no matter how old the fans are.
Seriously, Jared doesn't have to be proven guilty of CP to have seriously fucked up and damaged his reputation beyond repair. The issue is a lot bigger than the age or mental health of ANY individual he interacted with. There's a huge amount of evidence that Jared was taking advantage of vulnerable people to get off, which is fucked up regardless of the details.
Holly and KF and any last sycophants siding with Jared want to look for any reason to discredit the accusers. But tbh, the fact that Jared was doing ANY of this to begin makes him a YouTube outcast. These people build their whole careers on gaining their audience's trust and admiration. Jared fucked up hard in that arena. His former associates can't trust him now either. Cutting ties with someone who sends nudes to their fans isn't really optional if you wanna keep your online career
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While faggots who want to suck Jared’s pencil dick ree about the cp being fake Holly and her gang of idiots are still on their bullshit
No. 823240
>>823210Yeah but i mean, exchanging nudes with consenting adults is lame but legal. All the minors coming forth have yet to produce a chatlog with an exchange on the line of "hey jared, nice dick, btw im 15" "cool thanks for letting me know, now tits out please!"
Personally, i find it impossible that he hasnt interacted with minors ever, considering his demographic. Im not sure that those screenshots are the proof of that
No. 823248
>>823191>>823192this isn't derailment. what we know so far:
>3 minors accused jared of exchanging nudes with them>one of them recanted his story (iirc) and privated his account>the second is an anonymous redditor who mentions their message telling jared "i'm 15" got deleted while sexts did not>the third is chai and he is now looking like an unreliable narrator. he might have lied about a bunch of serious stuff and we don't know if he lied about the allegations or not.that's literally all i'm saying because this point hasn't been raised here before. i know we all have an axe to grind with this skeezeball, and i know his actions are disgusting as fuck even without the pedo crap, but if there are facts that may have been overlooked then i'm ready to look at them even if i may eat crow later.
No. 823261
>>823248
>one of them recanted his story (iirc) and privated his accountThey might be private but they didn't recant. Does anyone have evidence of them actually recanting?
Not surprising that they would go private after everything came out, it's overwhelming to be in the public eye like that. If their posts became private, people might have mistakenly assumed they were deleted/ recanted
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The tweet she’s responding to is cringy but so is holly
>my mom’s dead lol
>14 year old friend
No. 823283
>>823281 But he apologized that makes it ok!
Also her going "would you say that to a 14 year old? Shame on you uwu" like girl you aren't 14 stop comparing yourself with children
No. 823309
>>823281Friends with a 14yr old? Absolute red flag, regardless of PeenJared's involvement. There isn't much a woman her age should have in common with a 14yr old to earn the label of "friend".
I can't believe he dickmatized her this badly.
No. 823311
>>823283When did he apologize? He sent a shitty half-apology directly to the underage accusers, who didn't want to be put in contact with him anyway. Holly couldn't count that as his "apology" unless she thought those allegations were real.
Publicly, he hasn't apologized for taking advantage of fans in general. Afaik
No. 823315
>>823270what in the absolute motherfuck is a thirty-three year-old hag gonna have in common with a fourteen-year-old.
that's scary. i hope that kid gets out of that situation.
No. 823331
>>823316Unless Holly would have accepted a half-hearted apology from her mother for the abuse she experienced, she has no right whatsoever to tell any other
victim what is or isn't enough to make up for what they went through.
It is fucking astounding how little empathy this woman possesses; it's disgusting.
No. 823333
>>823331Notice how she makes it All About Holly in record time, too.
Other people just aren't real people to her, I guess.
No. 823351
>>823211Funny how she started feeling better right after people start questioning Chai (Jared's apology and Holly giving him their info is still damning by the way).
>>823270>>823281And then she says shit like this kek. She added fuel to the dying flames.
No. 823356
>>823352Hell, I'm almost 20 and I looked at a 14 year old as a child when I was in my senior year of high school. I still look at them as children. Idk how a 33 year old can even talk to a 14 year old.
>>823350I'm pretty sure if it was like that she would've mention it
No. 823357
>>823352Yep. It's why it was a huge deal when Onision and his wife got dunked in boiling water when they got caught befriending and flirting with a 14 year old.
That kind of excuse doesn't even fly on how to catch a predator. Unless Holly is trying to make things
worse for Jared and herself, she should have kept that "muh fwend is 14" shit to herself while pedo allegations about Jared are still floating around. It makes her look like a maximum leveled idiot.
No. 823358
>>823352Hell, I'm almost 20 and I looked at a 14 year old as a child when I was in my senior year of high school. I still look at them as children. Idk how a 33 year old can even talk to a 14 year old.
>>823350I'm pretty sure if it was like that she would've mention it
No. 823359
>>823352Yep. It's why it was a huge deal when Onision and his wife got dunked in boiling water when they got caught befriending and flirting with a 14 year old.
That kind of excuse doesn't even fly on how to catch a predator. Unless Holly is trying to make things
worse for Jared and herself, she should have kept that "muh fwend is 14" shit to herself while pedo allegations about Jared are still floating around. It makes her look like a maximum leveled idiot.
No. 823363
>>823352Hell, I'm almost 20 and I looked at a 14 year old as a child when I was in my senior year of high school. I still look at them as children. Idk how a 33 year old can even talk to a 14 year old.
>>823350I'm pretty sure if it was like that she would've mention it
No. 823364
>>823352Yep. It's why it was a huge deal when Onision and his wife got dunked in boiling water when they got caught befriending and flirting with a 14 year old.
That kind of excuse doesn't even fly on how to catch a predator. Unless Holly is trying to make things
worse for Jared and herself, she should have kept that "muh fwend is 14" shit to herself while pedo allegations about Jared are still floating around. It makes her look like a maximum leveled idiot.
No. 823366
>>823270>>823281>14yo friendHolly, what the fuck? This is super creepy. If it were a cousin or something, why not say cousin? Definitely giving me similar vibes to the Onision/Laney thing as another anon has said.
She's either trying to bait anons into reacting or she really has no understanding on what is and isn't appropriate. Fucking your friend's husband when she says not to, inappropriate. Being friends with a random 14yo and buying them gifts, inappropriate.
No. 823369
>>823366>She's either trying to bait anons into reacting or she really has no understanding on what is and isn't appropriate. I think it's probably a little column A and a little bit of column B with Holly - or that she feels entitled to do what the fuck ever and everyone who naysays her is a big
abusive bullying meanie. Then she can hide behing PLS NO BULLI UWU and pretends she doesn't understand basic causality like the manipulative little bitch that she is.
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I would be totally inclined to believe she meant her friends 14 year old niece. But here’s Denica again, not making things sound any better kek
Is this on purpose? Is she really just a crazy shady cowtipper?
No. 823375
>>821311She absolutely sounds like people I've known IRL who have borderline personality disorder.
https://outofthefog.website/personality-disorders-1/borderline-mother-typesLook at "The Waif" type. She fits perfectly.
"I am a worthless
victim. I do so want to be loved and protected, but I am not worthy of it."
'They look to others to "save them," but ultimately refuse assistance because helplessness makes them feel safe. Ironically, if they mistrust everyone and let no one get close, they stay in control and no one can abandon or disappoint them. Waifs may hurt themselves to express shame, but they are capable of raging if they feel rejected or abandoned. They don't ask for what they need, then appear Martyr-like because others can't read their minds and give it to them. Waifs may have crying spells and be unable to give nurturing to others.'
(armchair) No. 823388
>>823374Normal people in their 30s say, “my friend’s daughter” or “my younger cousin” or “my upstairs neighbors’ kid,” not “my friend.”
But nobody ever claimed Trash Witch was a normal person.
No. 823390
>>823372omg, this Denica bitch is wild. It's one thing to be friends with a 21 or 22 year old at 31, but 14 is legit a child (wtf does holly even have in common with them unless they are family??)
Denica, shut the hell up
No. 823393
>>823372Christ den girl you are not helping
Like the person who she’s replying back to is clearly not asking for suggestions
No. 823422
>>823372In what reality would this be even okay?! I know my local game shops and comic book store have a dnd game, but I would never allow or be cool with any of the older 30+ players letting a 14 year old play in their group like wtf?!
This is even more fucking bonkers in the context that Jared used his fucking popularity as a DnD player to get access and groom underage kids!?!
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Holly just clarified that the 14 yo’s parents are her friends. Jesus why cant she just talk like a sane perso? it would save her so much trouble.
Also she’s searching herself on twitter again
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>>823424“I don’t stand by abusers or
abusive behavior*
*that means I don’t stand by you either! haha lol “
No. 823428
>>823427"I literally can't say anything without someone saying something awful."
Think hard, Holly. Think REAL hard why that's the case. I refuse to believe you're this much of a fucking tool.
No. 823433
>>823427If she had said that in the first place there wouldn't be a problem. She phrases things to come out looking like a
victim. What a manipulative, whiny cunt.
No. 823447
>>823281>he apologized!>14yo friendThis is some lainey and onision tier shit
but even greg knew better than to openly show his teeny weeny
No. 823454
>>823240Anon, BEING 15 is the problem, not talking about being 15. Jared doesn't get off the hook because no-one said they were 15 or someone saw "18+ only!" on the blog but sent a 15yo nude anyway, despite what twitter wants to believe. It's simply not how the law works, there's no loophole like that it's just pedo dream. I've literally sat in a courtroom and watched . man get sentenced in these circumstances (accepting a 15yo telling them they were 18).
It really comes down to who, if any of these people, have pursued it legally, what agencies with, and if their information is clear. If no-one goes through with it Jared may get off he hook but that means nothing to whether he really committed a crime or not, because he in fact did. Is he gonna get nailed for it? Who knows.
No. 823486
>>823372This has got to be the funniest response possible. Holly has a history of fucking her fellow D&D'ers, regardless of outside protest.
This does not paint Holly well, Denica. Good try though.
>>823419Beautiful, anon. Beautiful.
>>823454This. I keep seeing people say "There's no proof he was told of their ages" as if saying "she told me she was 18, Mr. Judge" has ever got a pedo off the hook.
Sure, it matters in the eyes of the public. If he knew, and was willingly a pedophile, that's abhorrent. If he didn't know, but also didn't care, its at least a little less bad. But none of this shit matters in the law. Only the numbers.
No. 823496
i'm beginning to feel like the possibility of chai having lied about sending jared nudes isn't going to stick so i'm gonna stop talking about it after this.
again, i was not defending jared in any way, there's literally nothing that this rat bastard and his trash witch girlfriend deserve in the way of support, but we've all seen one time too many how accusations turn out to be false and it hurts people whose
victim story is true.
jared has solicited nudes from fans, he's cheated on his wife for a full year, and this is some truly scummy behavior. but we don't know if he's going to jail for being a pedo because the evidence may not be true. that was my only point.
>>823261i may be remembering this wrong. but charlie said something to the effect of not wanting to be involved in this situation anymore and privated his account. recanted was a wrong word to use, you're correct that i assumed it mistakenly
>>823296it was, i helped cap the reddit post lmao. the OP just mentioned in a comment that they had approached the DoJ or something (pardon my unfamiliarity with US procedures and authorities) with proof on jared, and then the post vanished
>>823313the problem with taking jared seriously or even wanting to believe him is that he hasn't addressed any serious allegations
at all. right after heidi and fans exposed his tumblr debauchery everyone was slinging shit at him and asking him simple questions like
>hey, jared, what about you being a slimy bastard and soliciting nudes from fans who looked up to you, huh?to which he basically responded as
>yes i did not cheat on my wife with holly. also i bought her a car and helped her moveand since then comes online only to like shady posts and block people. no surprise people
want him to turn out to be actually guilty and go to jail for the shit he caused.
sorry for this possibly OT rant i hope i don't get redtexted lmao
No. 823497
>>823281holly you complete bitch. is it satisfying to murder your online presence so thoroughly?? at this point she's just hacking away at it with a pickax
>>823419this is so absolutely glorious anon, i hope someone finds a way to incorporate it into the next thread pic lmfao
No. 823503
>>823485Thank you anon, sorry for the dumb question. Haven't been able to keep up much and these threads tend to move fairly quickly.
>>823496Didn't Normalboots drop him due to their own private investigation findings though? Do you think they were already trying to drop him and it was just convenient or there is solid evidence we just haven't seen yet? If there is a real investigation that's ongoing, it's not unrealistic that any real evidence is in their hands and not available to the public. Also, the alleged
victims are open to harassment via the rabid Holly and Jared apologists. I think it's safe to say only time will tell?
No. 823507
>>823503It's pointless to speculate, it's in the hands of lawyers now and we'll probably never know what happened unless Jared winds up in jail (unlikely even if he is guilty, tbh), he's slapped with a sex offender brand or the legal proceedings go on public record. I think it's sufficient to note that NormalBoots dropped him specifically for this reason and that's proof enough until we see something legally stating otherwise. It's pretty uncomfortable to call these girls "liars" when they are more likely
victims.
No. 823509
>>823507Agreed. That kind of thing also keeps other underage
victims from speaking out since they'll just be called a liar and attacked for doing so.
No. 823513
>>823496no-one knows if anyone is following through on this stuff legally. that has no bearing on whether jared did it or not.
you don't need to write long screeds of comments in order to sit on the fence.
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>>823513>>823513Fencesitting is for pussies especially when there
is an investigation going on. Heidi (and Holly) confirmed that a investigation is on-going.
If the anon defending Jared read though the threads they’d know that. And Jared already did confirm that he sent and received nudes to and from Chai and Charlie.
Who cares if they’re not “reliable” sources, Jared himself admits to his wrongdoings in a half-assed apology.
No. 823604
>>823567I wish people brought this up more. Holly basically told Jared he was being abused, and when he disagreed with her she bombarded him with articles and demanded he leave his
abusive relationship. She only started this song and dance AFTER Heidi yelled at Holly about staying away from Jared. This abuse narrative is Holly's creation and it's actually pretty fucking disgusting. She either manipulated Jared into thinking he was being abused by constantly drowning him in
abusive articles, or she gave the real abuser all the material he needed to lie and frame Heidi as a monster. I'm not sure if Jared thinks he was really being abused or if he took the free pass to cheat on and demonize his wife. I'm gonna guess the latter, but the former is pretty fucked as well.
No. 823629
>>823604THANK YOU
When you take into account Holly's description of her own actions (I sent him articles! I'm trying to help my friend who won't admit he's being abused!) with her lack of actual evidence against Heidi (She got mad! How unfair!) It paints a really sick picture.
Holly is clearly obsessed with abuse, and it always comes back to her own victimhood. She wanted Jared, so he got to be a
victim too. Then, in Holly's mind, they have a free pass to enact abject cruelty against Heidi and it's all deserved because "uwu abuser"
No. 823637
>>823541If they can't talk about this, then they definitely can't talk about Jared's child porn collection. It's a shame too because while they stay mum, the underage
victims get the backlash that should be aimed at the adults in the situation.
>>823604Not only this, but Holly keeps forgetting that both she and Jared have already said in text messages, that Heidi isn't
abusive or the monster that Holly keeps trying to paint her as.
No. 823648
>>823637She claims she only said Heidi wasn't
abusive because she was scared of her. Still doesn't explain why Jared went out of his way to tell Heidi that Holly called her
abusive and that he disagreed. If Jared really thought Heidi was abusing him why would he tell her that Holly was saying that shit? Holly claimed she feared for Jared's safety but apparently Jared felt comfortable enough to tell Heidi that Holly was talking shit.
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Figures that out of all the tweets on max landis, these are the two that she has liked on twitter
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No. 823689
>>823680I am surprised she doesn’t go with “you’re all being
abusive! Like my mom”
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This just in: associating with men who solicit nudes from fans damages your career.
>>823680who intended to hurt: You and Jared
who intended to be vindictive: You and Jared
who was repeatedly apologizing because of fear: You and Jared
No. 823697
>>823682Unpack:
>It wasn't arm chair diagnosing. It was done by a professional. No, Holly. She specifically talks about liking those tweets that said Heidi was
insert disorder here. They WEREN'T PROFESSIONALS.
>I'm so sorry you went through abuse, I do not stand by abuser and I Hope you can heal. Doing what she did with Heidi. Trying to change the subject and give empty good will.
>I saw Jared be abused, and if you believe I'm lying there's nothing I can say to convince you. That's ok. If that was ok, you wouldn't be searching your name.
Was Jared abused when he solicited and sent all those nudes from fans? He apologized so it's not abuse?
No. 823712
>>823680>I guess there is nothing i can UwU, hope you enjoy looking like a fool when the REAL truth comes out xoxox <3<3<3How could someone who is this passive aggressive and petty to genuine former fans ever garnered a following in the first place? How Holly was considered a positive mental health advocate when she has been stuck in emotional limbo for all of 20 years is a mystery to me.
>Look at behavior… Remove context and look at behavior.Holly you need to take a long look in the mirror and check your own "behavior" because hypocrisy is not a flattering look on you.
>>823694>I can't believe people wont support me anymore after I outed myself as a horrible person. play stupid games win stupid prizes.
No. 823718
>>823680The stuff about context and intention is actual madness.
Sounds like she's saying that the pain caused by somebody else's actions is only
valid if that person
intended to cause pain.
At least that's how I read it, especially considering the way she seems to "sorry-not-sorry" about the pain she's caused people.
>Remove the context and look at behaviour.Well, this line of thinking sure does explain the way she defended herself, where she cherry-picked isolated screenshots of Heidi's questionable behaviour/reactions whilst separating it from the context. Curious…
>>823682>Peekay is my favorite personSame. The logic is refreshing.
No. 823724
>>823711No kidding
And please don’t get a cosplay job again holly
That did not go well the last time
No. 823731
>>823680All behavior is done within a context, you butterfaced moron. Jesus.
Does she just have a high school degree, or did she actually manage to get past that??
No. 823732
>>823694This is pretty fucking telling. It's all passive voice, "has been halved", "has dramatically changed my livelihood" like it has nothing to do with her own actions and the shit she's done and helped perpetuate like a good little handmaid. It really shows how she wants to paint herself as the only active actor in the scenario who is just Trying To Survive In The Face Of This Natural Disaster. This shit just keeps happening to her somehow and it's not faaaaaaair you guys!
She really did bring this on herself and she just keeps at it like a dog with a bone. Maybe Onision is looking for a side piece, perhaps that's something Holly can get on next?
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ProFesSionAL DiAGnOsiS frOM a tHErapISt GuYz
No. 823741
>>823736Yes, talking to a psychiatrist about all the traits of a person you do not like, have made your mind about and is actively a threat to your relationship that you serve as an antagonist to is TOTALLY PROFESSIONAL.
I couldn't even side with these people if I tried without killing most of my brain cells.
No. 823751
>>823736minor blogging, I am a therapist, the main thing we do when patients try to have us diagnose someone we don’t know is to say “I don’t know for sure unless I evaluate them”.
Bro, no therapists I know will risk their hard-earned license and degrees for that. Maybe to our friends, but certainly not to our fucking patients. And certainly when lawsuits concerning our patients aren’t uncommon.
Holly, you fucking liar lmfao
No. 823756
>>823748I don't have any figures but I imagine that her Twitch subs and Trash Witch Coven (merch) sales have crashed since the drama started.
The way she's acting is harming her brand. I used to be a fan of Holly's and had considered buying Strix merch or something from her shop, but I've been rather put off the idea entirely.
She also hasn't been streaming at all (although that's her own choice) which of course will have an impact on donations and subscription renewals from anybody still wanting to support her.
No. 823757
>>823688Idk I came into all this with 0 context and no idea who they were or what was happening, and the reason I decided to learn more about this whole fiasco is because I wanted to know what was going on with this crazy manipulative and malicious Holly person.
Also Holly, Dennis Nilson is constantly apologising. Guess we were wrong about him after all, huh
>>823694Lol why is she saying this. For what reason, other than to manipulate, is there to say this? There's literally no point in saying this unless you're trying to guilt trip and manipulate your audience (at least in the way she's worded it)
No. 823769
>>823758I’m surprise no one has tweeted at her with that
Don’t think she’d take it well
No. 823778
>>823496Was chai the one jared apologized to? I don't remember but if so that's pretty incriminating imo. Chai is a teen tif, a lot of those gender special kids make up crazy stories of how 'mistreated' or 'insane' they are. Honestly that kinda behavior makes her a good
victim since she has already outed herself as either 'crazy' or a liar.
Also was chai the one who emailed normalboots? They responded to one of the underaged girls that emailed them saying they deleted the pictures she sent because they were illegal. How are any of jareds and hollys wk's not seeing that?
No. 823801
>>823794
>I want to own up to that bad behavior Then… fucking do it? Make a statement that you fucked up and apologize. Maybe don't send your mistress on a public rampage calling the
victims liars after apologizing. Makes the whole apology thing look kinda self-serving.
Jfc these people are such irredeemable assholes
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her likes…..
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>>823694Poor Holly, surely Jared will help you with rent!
O H W A I T
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No. 823901
>>823682it's just SO weird to me that every time holly is caught doing or saying something wrong she just starts throwing out non-apologies by the dozen.
caught cheating?
>heidi i'm sorry for existing, you're beautiful and scawwycaught lying?
>you guys i'm sorry you think i'm not trustworthycaught being a dumb bitch?
>i'm sorry you were abused>>823694yes i'm sorry that actions will usually have consequences uwu
No. 823956
>>823938 minors can't legally consent, so whilst it's something his lawyers could try spin in his favour, it's still illegal and very common in child grooming due to the manipulation involved.
It also seems like WA law specifically doesn't accept it as an excuse.
Is he actually considered a wanted man? It makes you wonder why he's hiding out in another state
No. 824029
>>823980I actually don't think they emailed the others. The never mention Nate, Anna, or Heidi as people they expected a response from.
It makes sense to contact the "mental health advocate" and not the person currently married to Jared (who would probably be on the defensive). But yikes, talk about a reversal of expectations. Imagine expecting support from Holly and discovering she's too obsessed with Jared to hold him accountable for ANYTHING.
No. 824038
>>823974
>The "I'm here for you" tweet got deleted smack dab in the middle of her stay and the "You know me tweets" were deleted at least a day before her comeback tweet (when she had claimed she just got out).It wouldn't surprise me at all if she exaggerated the time she spent in the hospital. It took almost two weeks for a public response. Are psychiatric stays usually that long? I'm thinking no.
More likely, she came back when she was ready and just pretended to have been helpless in the hospital during that whole time. Or let people assume
No. 824111
>>823956The knowing and consenting part isn't in reference to the minors, it's in regards to Heidi
>>823956Even if they thought she was ok with exchanging nudes, it is a logical assumption that mindset would change when faced with the facts that they were underage.
>>823980 I believe they did also. Who more so then Heidi would be affected by Jared's actions? That would also mean though that she knew about it in April.
No. 824116
>>824112My experience has been the same. They kept me for a few hours til I calmed down and then pushed hard for me to go home and attend a daytime hospitalization program instead (basically going to therapy every day for 8 hours a day for a couple weeks). And if you ask for an evaluation to get out sooner they'll do it. Unless she remained completely hysterical or pretended to have a plan to kill herself I doubt they kept her.
I can def see her racking up a hospital bill just for the uwu points, though. I hope Ross isn't still footing the bill.
(Blogposting) No. 824147
>>824116Canada. Got taken in for suicide worries by friend. More like convinced. By the time ER saw me, all the crisis workers were gone. So I was told to leave or stay in some barren room till morning.
In the morning, I was told to attend group therapy once a week or something and sent home in a cab.
I think she's well off via family relations too, so if she went anywhere it was probably some rich facility not normal hospital. But I'd place my bet on her just lying.
No. 824183
>>823736psychiatrists can armchair diagnose too. it's just a term for when anyone (professionals or otherwise) diagnosing someone who is not their patient. whether or not you're a professional, when you diagnose someone you've never spoken to, that is an armchair diagnosis and it's not
valid.
No. 824193
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Old tweet but Holly is Strix confirmed.
No. 824196
>>824183Doesn't that fall under the Goldwater rule?
>The Goldwater rule is the informal name given to section 7 in the American Psychiatric Association's (APA) Principles of Medical Ethics, which states that it is unethical for psychiatrists to give a professional opinion about public figures whom they have not examined in person, and from whom they have not obtained consent to discuss their mental health in public statements.Heidi is technically a public figure so any professional diagnosing her without examining her is breaking their ethical code.
No. 824219
>>824063Didn't she say one of her friends was telling her everything in the hospital? I thought she tried to play it off like the friend was the one tweeting while she was there.
True or not, that was the story I thought she had given.
No. 824260
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IDK why but Holly liking shit like this pisses me off. I know she's probably doing it as bait.
You are not the victim holly and all you've done was silence the actual victims of the situation. You will never be the victim because you continue to be a pedophile apologist that gives out non-apologies to the everyone else.
No. 824275
>>824111I can only speak for myself but if I were in their situation I would be very hesitant to contact the predator’s wife, because it’s not uncommon for wives of sexual predators to have been groomed by their husbands too. They’re often deep in denial and will defend their husband by attacking his
victims and their credibility. Think of Lainey but also women like Dottie Sandusky, Camille Cosby, etc. The kids couldn’t have known that Heidi was already getting fed up with his shit or that Holly was secretly romantically involved with him, which makes it extra fucked up that
Holly turned out to be the devoted enabler who quietly passed their info to Jared and later publicly attacked them in his defence. They thought she was just a colleague of his with a reputation for being wholesome, empathetic and maternal. It’s now clear that they would’ve been much better off contacting Heidi instead of Holly but they couldn’t have known this back then.
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No. 824528
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>>824506Yet no photos rip
No. 824558
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This Denise lady is everywhere
No. 824563
>>824558>>824560Nice to see the retarded knights and Holly still lurk here. They sure learned about this really fast.
The least these idiots can do is
pretend to not lurk.
>>824561Maybe one of her eyes only saw it was a word that started with an a and then her other eye started drifting so she assumed the word was "assault".
No. 824565
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Why is she like this?
No. 824566
>>824559this is what I half-wondered, but at the same time, he would have to be a Grade A Bonehead to so quickly find a new fan at a con to sleep with. There's a good chance that any random someone who approached him would sleep with him and obtain evidence to publicly release after the fact, they would sleep with him
for this purpose, and he would be further exposed likely with undeniable proof. He would be wise not to trust anyone who says they want to sleep with him now.
No. 824568
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This is the hill Holly is willing to die on.
No. 824578
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Finally, a friend that isn't a shithead.
No. 824579
>>824559Tbh I believe he's already done with Holly. She whines way too much on twitter for someone who, supposedly, is finally reconnected with a "forbidden lover". He must've shut her off emotionally long time ago, and she believes that if she lurks hard enough and responds to every mean comment, he will be grateful enough that it rekindles his feelings for her.
Although even if he had any to begin with, he probably liked only a secret affair part of it, and it had nothing to do with Holly herself. Judging by him being a manipulator/abuser and her being a complete wreck with hay instead of a brain.
Saged for tinfoil
No. 824581
>>824579Yeah something is telling me that's the case.
I don't know what's going on outside of the internet, but you'd think he'd at least make one statement telling people to leave Holly alone, seeing how much she's caping for him.
Makes me think he's just not all that into her anymore, which if true is a shame.
No. 824583
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kek
No. 824591
>>824572Because the only way holly can spin this into her favor is to turn this into a pissing contest.
"I know what I'm talking about because I'm more BROKEN than u eventho it has nothing to do with the situation at hand"
I'm still so baffled she fully admitted he was wrong for using his position of power to get free nudes from fans but tries to make it seem like no big deal cus he's sorry?? The dude ran multiple platforms solely to satisfy his fucking dick. It's not even about wether he was actively seeking out teens or not, the fact he's in a position of power with underage fans encouraging people to send him lewds doesn't make it farfetched that either some lied about their age and kids still ended up in his dms, did he request everyone to send him a copy of their driver liscense or something before rubbing one out on their pics? dude is fucking gross regardless. How can she not get it through her thick skull people won't just take her word for it when she claims he did nothing wrong cus he said so?? The dude. Had multiple platforms. To get his dick wet. Fuck you holly
No. 824592
>>824589Kinda wondering why he didn't invite her to the con with him.
The dude basically ruined his career to fuck her and now won't even be seen in public with her :/
No. 824594
>>824581why is that a shame? lol I guess only because shitty people should be with other shitty people so there are fewer for the nice people to have to avoid. they deserve each other in that respect. but saying it's a shame for either of their feelings' sakes is kind of funny. they both ruined their marriages for the other, and right when they're finally free to be together, the ProBoner goes soft
>>824587wonder how long it'll take Holly to come down to Earth and see the truth, she fell in love with a pedophile who doesn't love her back now that the thrill of deceit is gone
No. 824596
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>>824568I hate this self righteous bitch.
No. 824597
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No. 824598
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Holly I don't think any coffee shop near you will be willing to hire you after this
No. 824602
>>824597what was he apologizing for in the first place? if he forgets to turn the lights off before bed, and she says his apology is "not enough", that seems silly of her. however, it seems more than reasonable for her not to forgive him immediately when he expects "I'm sorry" to be "enough" for cheating on her for a year with her best friend.
>>824598All they have to do is Google her name, news articles about snailboy's scandal pop up on the first page.
No. 824604
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Wait so he was being abused when she and ross lived with them? doubt..
No. 824609
>>824597Lmao saying "fuck you" to your cheating husband is abuse.
"He called me crying"…yeah because he was trying to get a pity fuck. Also, I thought you were there to witness her saying "fuck you?"…but in the next sentence you say he called you crying about it. Keep your story straight.
No. 824611
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>>824604Whoa better back off guys, she seen it first hand. Someone make this with Holly's face and it should be the next thread pic.
No. 824619
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Not his gold google play button!
this bitch is so dramatic.
No. 824620
>>824560why is Holly still trying to pick fights with people who didn't directly @ her or Jared
did she lose her last brain cell or something
No. 824621
>>824598She's sounding like R Kelly here. Screaming "IM TELLING THE TRUTH!!!!" doesn't make it true, no matter how loud you are.
I agree Jared has already dumped her. He must've. If he was still slipping her the rat dick she would be far more complacent. She's probably hysterical that he's gone out without her and I bet she knows that he's trolling for more fangirl pussy.
No. 824626
>>824604She's so descriptive until it comes to this. 'it' could mean a lot of things and abusers/liars love to manipulate their language purposely. So she saw Heidi yelling? Mmmkay, pretty sure Heidi has explained both sides of that. I think she's not being specific so no one can really refute her.
And I don't know how she can be in such denial when Jared's dick and messages are plastered all over the internet.
As for "innocent until proven guilty" I hate when idiots take that phrase and think it has any meaning outside of law. He's not in a fucking courtroom (yet) and the general public is allowed to draw a conclusion. Especially when there's this much evidence
No. 824635
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Look who's back. No posts about Holly at all since this one…maybe her friends are giving up on her/finally seeing that she's a gaslighting, pedo-apologist and ableist (lol i hate that term but idk what else to call her shaming of Heidi for being abused and frustrated about being cheated on)
No. 824636
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>>824630Someone needs to sit her down and force her to watch Waiting to Exhale or some shit cause this bitch is completely oblivious to the behavior of a woman scorned.
No. 824637
>>824635a brain lesion? did you have a stroke? that's what makes a lesion.
sounds like a lie but ok go off
No. 824643
>>824606it certainly explains why this bitch cant go five seconds without apologizing
she thinks doing so absolves her
No. 824654
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No. 824668
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Everyone defending Jared by saying that Chai and Charlie are liars are forgetting about the 3rd minor that posted about their experience. As far as I know this one hasn't been disproved?
https://www.reddit.com/r/ProJared/comments/bn4u78/i_was_also_groomed_by_projared/ No. 824669
>>824668People have been discrediting that person because it was a throwaway Reddit account who had no proof they told Jared their actual age. They said the message where they told Jared was deleted or something.
The minor shit is the most fucked up part of all of this, but I still find it disgusting that he ran a porn account in order to solicit nude photos from fans of any age. He also slept with fans he met at conventions and then ghosted them. He is just an all around piece of shit.
No. 824671
>>824668Jessica has been reeing about how Chai and Charlie being dishonest for a while now so it’s not surprising that he’s trying to invalidate the other minor on the sole fact that she’s anonymous.
Ignore Holly’s whiteknights, the majority of them are men from kiwifarms who just want to fuck Holly.
No. 824698
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rofl
No. 824699
>>824698you’ve been reported to the cyberpolice
consequences will never be the same
No. 824705
i hope holly never tears herself away from the internet because my god, it's absolutely killing my sides that jared is IN seattle, holly is IN seattle, and he's at a con without her while she drives herself nuts defending him against internet randos sitting alone at home. abso
fuckinglutely gorgeous.
it will make my whole year if someone can corroborate jared actually being there with another chick, although it might straight up drive this insane bitch to sudoku
>>824698these are the people willing to defend holly while her uwu lover is ghosting her lmfao
No. 824712
>>824698Knock knock, Hi who's there?
Police Libel, Defamation and Slander Squad! Open up!Giant kek
No. 824717
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the fan who published a reddit post about her and jared fucking at a con and then him ghosting her for ages (the strip uno one, if that helps you remember) posted an update about her experience.
post is up here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ProJared2/comments/c350e4/some_misinformation_that_needs_correcting/i capped the key takeaway from this:
1. jared has been online and he's been reaching out to people privately to fix their stories
2. heidi may have lied about the duration/limits of her open relationship, although in my eyes this isn't particularly incriminating because honestly what other choice did she have at the point her husband told her "i want to fuck other chicks"
3. this person puts an undue amount of force behind a few points:
>heidi is omitting things>jared did not manipulate me>jared was really nice to me this weeki'm just getting the sense that she's even now being strongly and sneakily manipulated by jared, and i just don't get how he does this to chicks looking the way he does. so sure this is a case of "omg i never expected you to respond to me ever again so i'm really happy you're being nice to me. of course you never meant to cheat on your wife ever". if i was in the position this chick is i'd scrutinize everything the guy ever said to me again as well as probably have someone else look at the things he said to me for signs of manipulation.
No. 824720
>>824717sorry for samefagging and for the wall of text, but also notice that the post says
>jared requested that i not post screenshots of textsjust like he asked this same chick to not talk about them fucking at a con, ever, to anyone
>in order to not further enrage heidi and cause her to retaliatejust like the situation he presented to holly
and she still feels he isn't coercing her or being manipulative in any way.
No. 824721
>>824717It's a throwaway and they "conveniently" have been asked not to share screenshots.
Yeah, sure, It's to not anger Heidi not because it's full of shit. kek
No. 824723
>>824721the account is legit, it's the same person who shared the really gross texts and pics they received from jared at the con.
which is why i'm thinking there's some near-holly level of dickmatization happening here. it's not hard to imagine, once you think about how infatuated she was with jared and how she kept trying to message him while she was ghosted. so naturally once he reaches back to her she's willing to believe he's the angel in the situation.
it's a super scummy thing for jared to do but at this point what else can we expect from him
>>824719i doubt he had that level of foresight so long before shit would hit the fan, it's more likely heidi was just going along with whatever the fuck he asked of her and trying to cope IMO.
or he's just that sneaky of a bastard i have no clue lmao
No. 824724
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a few choice OP comments on this thread
No. 824725
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and then there's this. i just…
No. 824726
>>824724Something else she says in the comments is "He has apologized for that and we did some reminiscing last night about the good times we had together."
To me that's definitely manipulation and she's falling for it once again. It's manipulation because she was once hurt by Jared ghosting her and now that he's back, apologized and talking about good times, it's a band-aid over a wound and I can almost guarantee you that they'll be fucking again before the year is over. He has to do
something to keep her trust.
No. 824727
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for context, this was her tune JUST a month ago.
No. 824728
>>824725kek. Totes not used except when he threw me away after having sex.
Welp, ok.
No. 824729
>>824604"He called me"
"I was there"
kay
No. 824732
>>824725>>824724At least this proves that we were right about Jared talking to other girls while Holly goes psychotic on Twitter.
It's extremely suspect that she's suddenly Pro-Jared, anti-Heidi and is now trying to clear Jared's name. You'd think that he would take a break from the manipulation tactics, but nope, he's too retarded and narcissistic. He's trying to save his image by chatting up the girls that he fucked to keep them quiet and will probably ghost them again once the air clears.
No. 824736
>>824717I think OP is trying to say "heidi is lying because she clearly seemed fine with it in private but said to me personally that she's asking for the cheating timeline"
well if you wanna know when your husband started sleeping with people outside of her consent then yeah, it makes perfect fucking sense. If Heidi knew he slept with this fan and approved, she probably doesn't remember when this happened. Asking the fan when this occured would help her piece that so and so event was consensual and okay, in contrast to holly
why is this so fuckin hard for op to grasp jesus
No. 824744
>>824732>>824742what i'm really waiting to see is how apeshit holly will go once she does her routine lolcow visit and makes 2+2. this plus the fact that jared was wandering around a convention without her is going to send her running for her bottle of pills.
maybe she'll convince herself that reaching out to someone jared exploited ages ago, is further proof of his moral purity? kek
No. 824773
>>824725Jesus. How old is this woman? Jared is suck an oily little weasel. I just feel bad for this woman. Jared preys on women who desperately want to feel special. Does she think they just randomly started reminiscing? It was calculated.
I really hope Holly doesn’t go anymore crazy or do something drastic. As much as her
victim blaming and shit kicking pisses me off. Jared has seriously damaged her psyche. Holly had a lot of mental health issues already and Jared took advantage of that. Not that it excuses Holly’s actions towards Heidi at all.
I just really hope she gets some actual therapy to process what’s happened to her and realize she has been flinging shit at the wrong person. Not a yes man therapist but one that’s willing to challenge your perception and call you on your BS. These twitter meltdowns aren’t healthy.
No. 824782
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>>824778don't do this, you will die
No. 824785
>>824783If anyone is capable of the mental gymnastics to somehow excuse Jared doing this, it's Holly. I'm sure this is somehow Heidi's fault, too.
Notice that this girl is defaulting to demonizing Heidi just like Holly. Jared sure knows how to pick them. He probably decided Heidi wasn't worth it anymore once she started standing up for herself.
No. 824790
>>824783>>824785It's poetic though, now Holly will go through the same gaslighting Heidi experienced.
Her Strix/Diath dream wedding isn't even gonna happen awww…
No. 824792
>>824724
>I'm glad you didn't feel manipulatedsays Jared as he continues to manipulate her
>I tried my best not to do that but I understand now that no matter what, I'll always be in that position of power"Waaahhh, I'm just so powerful I didn't realize that others are influenced by my power! That's why I'm messaging you now, to not influence you with my power! I tried not to use my influence to fuck people but then I did anyway! But like, you WANTED to fuck me, right?
Seriously the lack of responsibility for his own actions is disturbing. He recognized that she was attracted to his fame, but convinced her that she just liked him as a person and that the fame/fan dynamic was coincidental. Insane.
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>>824611Cant draw but I tried
No. 824818
>>824816exactly.
i'm not of the opinion that Jared is some evil manipulator mastermind (mainly… i don't think he's that smart), but Heidi owned up to what she did, while Jared didnt. The only one losing her shit is Holly probably because she has such a low self-esteem she can't live with knowing some stranger on the internet is speculating about her and her Jared characters and doesnt take her word as golden
No. 824819
>>824808like very much
>>824813it's full of holes but she wants to believe it so bad she'll throw herself under the bus for him.
No. 824829
>>824717Why even reply to what Jared had to say? The guy was emotionally abusing and manipulating his ex-wife, as well as soliciting nudes from fans whose ages he didn't know. He has repeatedly proven himself to be a shit person time and time again. Why would anyone give this guy their trust again?
And the sad thing is, men like Jared are a dime a dozen. Holly and this other person could probably find someone who likes D&D and isn't a total scumbag to be infatuated with.
No. 824833
>>824818I agree. Jared is just a dense idiot who probably doesn't even realize that the shit he's doing is gross. Heidi at least seems self-aware and only chimed in to clarify misleading claims Holly made.
Holly is just trying really hard to make herself a
victim because she can't accept that she is involved with someone who's hurt other people who don't deserve it. I'm getting armchair diagnosis here but I agree with everyone here saying Holly might have BPD because she seems so out of touch with reality.
No. 824834
>>824818I agree. Jared is just a dense idiot who probably doesn't even realize that the shit he's doing is gross. Heidi at least seems self-aware and only chimed in to clarify misleading claims Holly made.
Holly is just trying really hard to make herself a
victim because she can't accept that she is involved with someone who's hurt other people who don't deserve it. I'm getting armchair diagnosis here but I agree with everyone here saying Holly might have BPD because she seems so out of touch with reality.
No. 824835
>>824818I agree. Jared is just a dense idiot who probably doesn't even realize that the shit he's doing is gross. Heidi at least seems self-aware and only chimed in to clarify misleading claims Holly made.
Holly is just trying really hard to make herself a
victim because she can't accept that she is involved with someone who's hurt other people who don't deserve it. I'm getting armchair diagnosis here but I agree with everyone here saying Holly might have BPD because she seems so out of touch with reality.
No. 824841
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>>824831So all Jared had to do was contact her again and be like
>Aw sowwy for ghosting u :(( btw remember when we fukd? good times ;)And the girl forgave him instantly. I bet they are exchanging nudes right now.
What are you going to do Holly? Another evil succubus has gotten hold of your precious Diath. The DnD campaign continues…
No. 824843
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lol she just linked to jared's side piece's post
No. 824853
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>>824848oh boy it keeps happening
No. 824856
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Looks like she has committed to whiteknighting while Wormboy is reminiscing about sex he had with another side piece.
No. 824861
>>824853She is bragging about Jared employing the D.E.N.N.I.S. system lmao.
Demonstrate Value.
Engage Physically.
Nurture Dependence.
Neglect Emotionally.
Inspire Hope.
Separate Entirely.
I see his former fuck buddy is on the Inspire Hope step.
No. 824867
>>824853What's wrong with people talking about how they fucked?
This girl seemed to have forgotten why she was so upset in the first place. Not necessarily Heidi, but being ghosted, Jared saying he really just wanted to have sex with her and leave (no UNO lol) and to not tell anyone about it. But, I think she's just grateful for the closure. She seems to realize he's only doing it because of damage control and not because he even cares if she's alive or dead. This is sad. And not trying to defend Heidi because she was complicit in Jared abusing his power for a time, but she did phrase it as a "timeline" because she knew she allowed shit to take place.
And why the fuck doesn't this woman post screen shots anyways? What does she owe to Jared other than constantly playing to his tune and being his fuck doll? Just post them because screenshots vs. Jared approaching his former sexual encounters to defend him should incite Heidi's wrath regardless. There's more to the story. Maybe Jared is having her lie for him? Maybe not. I wouldn't care if Heidi was a vengeful jerk because it doesn't make Jared look any better for fucking fans and ghosting them. That part doesn't change.
Also - isn't Jared the most pathetic being in the world? He's getting women to defend him online while having fun at conventions as they get wrecked online.
No. 824878
>>824876What’s weird is in reading the comments there was a lot of “Heidi gonna lash ouuuuut!”
What kind of reality are those people living in? Last time I checked Heidi did very little to “lash” out
Holly on the other hand…
No. 824879
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Heidi DM'd her too. THIS IS A CLUSTER FUCK.
1) Holly is still a terrible person
2) Heidi's not trustworthy because she omits a lot, but it still follows the cool girl narrative. Remember it's not Heidi sticking her dick in everything that moves.
3) Jared is even more disgusting for "reaching out" to help his dead career.
No. 824884
>>824878It's fine if Holly lashes out, after all she's the small uwu bean who's gonna commit suicide if things don't go her way :(( SO YOU BETTER PITY HER UWU
I think it's the combination of ProJared fans, Holly's fans and incels who are strongly pushing the "projared is a
victim" narrative.
No. 824885
>>824884I suspect those fans are pushing this as well
A few of the comments are “I liked his content”
No. 824893
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Heidi's wrath
No. 824896
>>824874Conveniently omitting that it was in heidi's rights to decide what was and wasn't cheating. My theory is that casual fucks were ok, but a committed relationship with a friend who wanted to be the only girl was a big no-no. Heidi doesnt need to be a romantic and tragic heroine. Even if that was a purely pragmatic choice of not wanting her husband to fuck and fall in love with their friend because Jared was the breadwinner of the house, guess what, if he did that while still married that's cheating.
UNO Girl wants to feel more important than she is, imo
No. 824907
>>824902And it’s the only one so far who has come forward that we know of
Wouldn’t be surprised if there’s another
No. 824920
>>824913All I can think of is if he starts releasing more texts, Heidi can start releasing more. You know, if he wants to keep most of his shit, even in a "no fault" State (I'm sure the law is more nuanced in splitting funds that depend on the actions and circumstances of the marriage), he needs to keep his
victim card up to get leverage. But if there's this escalation of dropping private texts, then Heidi would be more inclined to do so. Her "wrath" is most likely some very horrible texts between Holly, Jared, Holly and fans. I wonder what Holly would say about him fucking fans TO Jared as it's happening?
No. 824929
>>824920That's right. Heidi said she found out about his nudes with fans because he was already texting Holly about it. Wow, is she a cuck. I know Heidi was a cuck also but at least she got some for herself on the side. Dumbass Holly divorced her husband, moved states and sacrificed her career for a horny manwhore. Heidi is the least of her problems in regards to him.
Also, how much you wanna bet the texts Heidi saw were Holly telling Jared that Chai messaged her? That or Jared was telling Holly about NB investigating him. Glad Heidi didn't let sleeping dogs lie. Seems like NB was going to let him off more lightly if it hadn't gotten so much publicity.
No. 824945
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>>824879I cant believe this girl is getting played so easily. Like, can you really not see he just came back to talking to you to control your narrative?! Reminisce over old times? How oblivious can you be?! Has no one even seen a movie or something?! This is textbook manipulation!
>>824861 It's almost ridiculous how much this fits. Someone put Jared's face on this plane
No. 824951
>>824879HOW DOES THIS FUCKING CHANGE ANYTHING?! I don't give a fuck if you had sex with him or not because you're a fucking adult. He can use you and ghost you all he wants. He can come back out of nowhere and do a fakey apology to you or whatever. This at no point excuses what he did those minors?! Like holy shit, just cause he came back to apologize to you for essentially using you doesnt mean he's suddenly excused from everything!
Cant believe this bitch changed from 100% SUPPORT here
>>824727 to straight up Holly level of Jared is exempt of all charges?!
No. 824957
>>824945Jared has a pattern of pursuing younger girls for a reason. Easy to manipulate and keep on the hook. Holly also counts because she hasn't matured past high school mentally even though she's in her 30s.
Idiocy aside I can't believe he's been chasing pussy this entire time he's gone dark. Anons called it but I really didn't think he was that dumb. And Holly is just going with it because she's so desperate to be right and not have to face the fact that she's made a series of grievous errors that ruined her life just because she can't separate her DnD character from reality. He was literally sleeping with other women while professijg feelings to Holly…but "it's just reminiscing!!"
No. 824964
>>824725So she admitted she felt used, and then he spent a couple hours out of his busy day to con her again after ghosting her for years
>all is forgiven hehe I wasn't manipulated heheThat pencil dikk must be really somethin'
No. 824965
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Holly’s “friend” is claiming there’s no litigation going on. How? Because she just knows okay!?
No. 824967
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>>824945Quick and dirty, just like Jared.
No. 824975
>>824921It's irrelevant anyway though, ignorance of the law is not an excuse for breaking it. Everyone understands this when it comes to things like speeding, you can't say
>Oh sorry officer I didn't know this was a 20 It's your personal responsibility to know and make sure you're obeying the law.
No. 824976
>>824967Justify cheating
Arrange sexual affairs with fans
Redirect abuse
End Marriages
Deny
No. 824981
>>824698ah yes, because the tweet of someone with 28 followers is going to ruin jared's reputation and damage his income to the point of legal action.
so in addition to being sad and desperate, we can also tell that holly's defenders are shit-stupid too.
No. 824984
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>>824967>>824976My sides are in orbit. With one more edit, this would be the best thread pic yet.
No. 824988
>>824976Someone please edit this in, it's brilliant.
>>824986She's already dropped. She just doesn't realize it. If he's reaching out to one fangirl, there's guaranteed to be more he's talking to. Well. "Talking."
No. 824992
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>>824988Here you go, Sorry for the poor quality.
No. 824998
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>>824995Again, Forgive the poor quality. Was this what you where looking for?
saged for spamming edits
No. 825000
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>>824965Can't find that tweet but I found this one. She's literally just reading kiwifarms.
No. 825001
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>>824998I'm fucking dead. this is perfect work!
Also, Holly is losing her mind on twitter
No. 825005
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She's just spending all her time on twitter, trying to pick fights and be a victim.
No. 825006
>>825005It's only assault if there's physical contact, you cross-eyed asshole.
Her 60 million birds and other pets must feel so neglected right now with their caretaker being online hunting for trouble 24/7. She needs to be looking for a job instead of fighting the internet and losing her sanity for free.
No. 825015
seems like the diath/jared D&D miniature is coming out after all:
https://youtu.be/Mxl7RCt3dLU?t=2568
>Strix is in a couple of different poses, and both Paultin and Diath have some cool poses. An action one and earlier in their timeline one. >So those eight figures will be coming and we'll have news on those a little bit later in summer. no pictures of the alternates or the peenjared minis yet.
No. 825054
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>>824835Holly is just reflecting her mental illnesses onto Heidi at this point. Heidi confirms that she does not have BPD, and that there's no way she'd even know what her and her therapists discuss.
No. 825069
>>825054ok wait hold on, so is this is a separate case that she's filed against holly? doesn't make sense for holly to be involved in their divorce case in any capacity much less for slandering heidi's character.
heidi, my lord woman you are an absolute badass
also anon - is her facebook public?
No. 825076
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>>825073Heidi is definitely more grounded. Probably because she doesn’t have to defend her moldy trash bag of an ex-husband.
>>825069No, her posts are still private.
No. 825082
>>825054Wow this must tie into her having to represent herself in divorce proceedings now. This is the case she’s building, but case for what, why her marriage ended? I don’t think Heidi has a strong case going this route. She must have exhausted everything else (the pedo shit, the dick pics) to arrive at this Holly libel defense.
Heidi had friend requests turned off for Facebook when I looked way back when this all started so this must be someone who had been friends a while.
No. 825089
>>825076Doing bullshit for attention again. So unnecessary. She’s just posting this for sympathy, to victimize herself further in everyone’s eyes, under the guise of proving facts to the haters. Her way of thinking is very sick, spiteful, and manipulative
Anyone questioning her hospital stay is either doubtful since Holly is a liar, or a troll. She’s crazy enough to have been there and brag all over Twitter when she’s out
She didn’t have to try so hard, especially with that photo. All of this is under her legal name and screenshotted, all for future employers, colleagues, friends, and boyfriends. Her career is over and she has a useless degree in medieval studies lmfao good luck getting a job now & when she’s an even older lady
Holly is a divorced 32 year old homewrecker showing off her mental hospital bracelet on Twitter. She won’t stop crying on Twitter because she cheated, harrassing Heidi, and searching Holly/Jared. Depressing
No. 825090
>>824761Imo one of two things are happening here:
1. This
victim is still very young and easily impressionable. It is easy to fall back into a cycle of abuse and change your tune, especially when you are young and your abuser is a lot older.
2. It was a fake
victim from the get go, planted to at first agree to gain creditability and then suddenly switch sides so they seemed more believable when saying he isn't the bad guy.
No. 825091
>>825073>Holly is… hmm… I'm not sure how to describe it.Unhinged. The word you’re looking for is ‘unhinged.’
But not in the way she thinks she’s unhinged. She’s not some fragile little uwu irl like she is in her head.
>>825087>Why would you keep the hospital bracelet from your stay in the psych ward for trying to kill yourself?Attention and sympathy.
No. 825093
>>825090She stated on reddit that she's 26.
Twenty-fucking-six.
No. 825097
>>825093Oh lawd there really is no hope for the human race.
That being said, both points sadly still stand, but I change point 1 to OP is just a fucking idiot.
No. 825099
>>825076From Ballard's Behavioral Health section on Inpatient services (Ballard doesn't offer the partial hospitalization option; only Edmonds campus does):
"Inpatient care is beneficial for people who are experiencing an acute mental illness and require intensive 24-hour care to stabilize their condition."
So you mean to tell me that "lies on the internet" sent you to a 22-bed facility specializing in legit psychiatric breakdowns? Wouldn't "the truth" give you enough solace to, IDK, not go to an in-patient facility meant for people with actual BPD, schizoaffective disorder, bipolar, etc?
Stay histrionic, my friend.
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>>825076I'm honestly sick of hearing about Holly but she just doesn't stop
I look forward to the day she fades into obscurity again
No. 825101
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No. 825103
>>825101I try not to say it often but
The absolute cringe coming from that tweet
No. 825107
>>825054God it'll be Holly's lucky day if Heidi decides to file a cease and desist or injunction against her. If she can no longer open her big mouth to word vomit out lies, then her image may very well improve.
But I seriously hope Heidi gets a restraining order against Holly. Don't want to catch the trash witch hiding in your yard late at night once Jared moves on to his next piece and Holly really snaps.
No. 825114
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>>825101I'll show myself out
No. 825121
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>>825115I'm 90% sure the dolls are ones that Holly made, the craftsman ship is very similar to other dolls she made in the past.
(Pic related)
No. 825140
>>825076she's such a fucking attention whore
Does it really matter if some people don't believe you were hospitalized good God
No. 825146
>>825143my fucking god, there has to be some serious mental damage involved if a person can fully unironically say that to a minor who was
groomed. what's next? seducer of innocents? temptress? vehicle of sin? jesus fucking christ, holly attracts the worst kind, and the fact that she lets them run their mouths like this and fucking goes ahead and follows such complete morons really says a lot about her whole "uwu damaged smol bean" facade.
No. 825153
>>825140It wasn’t even that. The person on Twitter was asking what kind of facility allows visitors to come talk about the
triggering event AND bring cell phones in for the patient to use. Because it seems to defeat the purpose of being on psych hold. Then she twisted it to “I can prove I was in the hospital” which absolutely no one was calling into question.
No. 825154
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lol she might regret liking this when Heidi sues her
No. 825164
>>824725Ah, yes, I also love reminiscing with guys who abruptly pumped and dumped me after telling me I was special for months. Them showing up a year later to "reminisce" totally feels sincere and not like they just showed up because they need something from me.
>>824853Holly: You can't feel awkward about Jared being at a con, that's assault!
Also Holly: What, he's not allowed to talk to the person he previously used and abused his power over? ARE PEOPLE NOT ALLOWED TO TALK ANYMORE?!
No. 825197
>>825186Hollytards are fucking illiterate.
You know whats also a crime? Grooming underage girls.
No. 825199
>>825198“Accost” doesn’t mean “assault” no matter what stupid linguistic gymnastics you try to use
Holly and Jared stans are such whiny idiots
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Meanwhile
No. 825221
>>825220The holly version:
“What did I do wrong?! Also my mom abused me!”
No. 825241
>>825225Yes we do
Middle space being a free bird or something
No. 825262
>>825240Wow… So criticizing Holly is 'harassment' & not fair at all, but it's
totally okay to heckle Heidi whenever she tweets? How about you follow
your own damn advice Conretards.
No. 825270
>>825254Here is all the text regarding her mom:
>“My Mom has had MS since I was born,” Conrad explains, “so she can’t walk and hasn’t been able to walk for my whole lifetime.
>My dad is a great guy. But about two years before the movie was filmed, he left my mom, and left me with everything. He just left. So I was taking care of my mom by myself. It was right after I got out of college. For a while my mom lived on her own, but then she couldn’t. I started living at home and I worked a fulltime job at an animatronics factory.
>And my mom has always been so supportive. She played videogames with me; we used to play World of Warcraft together. She’s a really strong person. But you can only be so strong when you’re so sick. At that point, she was getting so bad that something had to be done. Eventually, after the movie, she ended up moving to an assisted living home, and I ended up moving to L.A., so it all worked out.”So she's speaking pretty fucking positively about her mom. I have known situations where parents are verbally
abusive towards their children who are their primary caretaker but, it seems like Holly was only ok with accusing her after she passed away. It could just be she's spiteful for having to look after her mom in her 20s. Regardless, this definitely proves she didn't always claim her mom was
abusive.
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No. 825279
>>825268…Not to mention the whole 'reminiscing' bit, which is also an abuser-tactic; "Remember all the
good times we had together? Think about that the next time you think I've wronged you, okay?"
Also funny how this woman, assuming she isn't a sockpuppet, brings up how only now, Jared
just got back in touch with her,
after shit has hit the fan… Guess he's rushing to mend any broken bridges & then having Holly show them off to convince her already-biased fans that he's '100% innocent'.
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>>825225>>825241>we need a Holly bingo card.We really do need a new card. I don't think the one from last thread will ever be full since Holly doesn't respect anyone, including herself.
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No. 825291
>>825285I find it hilarious how Holly knows all these specific things about what Heidi is up too, whatever she's saying, whatever she did or doing, whatever other people are saying to her, whatever her therapist is saying to her. and all of this she saw with her own eyes. it wasn't Jared who told her NO! she SEEENS IT!!!
if Heidi had never claimed she planned on stealing it I would have maybe believed it as something a spiteful ex would do. but the fact she made a whole post bragging she would if she could makes me highly skeptical and just paints Holly as this desperate loser thats trying to paint Heidi badly at any chance she gets. Holly ur overdoing this soooo hard and its not a cute look, honey
No. 825294
>>824717
>>" A couple weeks after the fact, Heidi reached out to me through twitter DM's after I had already tried to get in touch with her."
>>"Well, this week Jared himself got into contact with me."This says all we need to know, honestly.
It's also funny how she 'cannot show screenshots' of her recent chat with Jared, but she can say Heidi agreed & was all gung-ho about it with full confidance…
…This also sort-of aligns with their 'polyamory' period, so Heidi might be logging all of his extramarital affairs for reference (we can kinda get that from the word 'timeline')
No. 825295
>>825291From what I've seen recently, it would seem that both Jared & Holly are trying to either derail Heidi, or push her into doing something stupid/spiteful, or both.
My only hope is that Heidi doesn't take the bait & continues to focus on what matters in her own life.
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>>825295Heidi'll be alright
No. 825304
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>>825297< Yeah, pretty much this.
No. 825306
>>825291It's really creepy how obsessed Holly is with Heidi. Heidi should really consider getting a restraining order on her crazy ass.
>>825304The girl pretty much deserves to be Jared's tissue at this point. He pumped and dumped her, has seen all of these people come out with their stories and nudes of Jared, seen how he's treated his wife and his involved with Holly (kek or at least in Holly's mind) and now wants to be his cum tissue again? She deserves it.
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Concerning Ross again…
All I can think of is what Ross said in that one video:
>"…P-Provocative actions towards others…"
No. 825327
>>823111>>823140This is disgusting.
It also suggests that Jared was not only soliciting a minor, but taking advantage of someone with a mental impairment.
No. 825331
>>825327Wow, it's almost like he specifically preyed on people who are historically especially comparable and manipulatable
>low self esteem>young/immature >emotionally vulnerable >impressionable>mentally disordered No wonder Holly is wrapped around his finger so tightly
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The best response to all the people going after Chai so far…
No. 825345
>>825343Some people thirst for fame. Some do REAL hard. Cue Holly Jared stans.
Polite sage
No. 825349
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She’s on twitter again
Anyway, does Heidi really have a case here if holly didn’t explicitly say she had BPD? She called her unstable and mentally ill, and only liked one bpd tweet. I’m not certain there’s enough there unless I missed something