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No. 995988

Last time on the "It's been 84 years…" Edition….

> Trash Witch Coven, move over! Holly rebranded her company to "We Crowing Hens", once again changing everything based on her latest fixation. A section of the website mentions 'Courses' that she's apparently going to offer in the future; Educators everywhere wept.

> Holly still attempts to brand herself as "Forest Witch" until people draw similarities in her attempting to turn into Heidi; She backtracks within just a few hours.

> SadOldMagician, one of Holly's biggest supporters and husband of another supporter GeraldoGuacamole, took to tumblr in an attempt to defend Holly - but really just came off looking like a huge simp. Since the three regularly go on nature hikes, we can only assume it's a matter of time before Holly moves in to wreck another marriage.

> Holly posts a picture of her chickens in front of Jared's wall of NES games, once again trying to publicly stake her claim and make clear that they're still together (spoiler alert: no one cares)

> ProJared brings up a bottle of wine from a retreat that he was "saving for a better day", claiming that Heidi allegedly stole it, despite the fact that it was marital property and therefor part hers as well.

> Adam Koebel decides to temporarily quit streaming, but not before writing lengthy post about how hard this has been ON HIM with next to no consideration for anyone else. Internet loses their shit - but fear not, Holly was right there to tell him "Never stop making art!".

> Another day, another "Woe is me, I have a bad brain" pitiful picture from ProJared via Instagram. Said post coincides with what WOULD have been his anniversary with Heidi and with Heidi signing the last document in their divorce.

> Heidi is focusing primarily on her business while both Jared and Holly seemingly struggle to do anything that doesn't circle back to them being victims of Cancel Culture(tm)

> Ope, it turns out Jared learned nothing as he is now streaming a sex-based game on his twitch that he now KNOWS is viewed by minors. He is also sent nudes by a fan and rather than saying "Please don't do this", he just mentions that that's not what his BUSINESS email is for (y'know, after screenshotting it)

Image Credit: >> 993623
Thread Credit: >>995973

Previous Threads (The ProJared Saga Begins):
1: >>785476
2: >>804540
3: >>808888
4: >>812124
5: >>816967
6: >>820703
7: >>826388
8: >>829410
9: >>836081
10: >>841369
11: >>852741
12. >>861615
13. >>866222
14. >>881371
15. >>897566
16. >>914132
17. >>930972
18. >>945131
19. >>971736

Character Descriptions and Stats:

Jared "the Wormdick" Knabenbauer
>Known for having a gaming youtube channel where he reviewed games
>Formed "Waffle crew", the D&D group that would soon turn out to be a dumpster fire
>All hell broke lose when his ex-wife revealed he has been manipulating, abusing and cheating on her
>Soon after, other victims of his started leaking chat logs and nudes
>Turns out he was soliciting underage porn
>Went into hiding
>Throughout DCA, his D&D character, Diath, was having an on-going romance with Strix, his co-player Holly Conrad's character
>Turns out they were also involved IRL, cheating on their spouses
>Holly is currently whiteknighting him on twitter, while he is trying to manipulate his side-pieces from the shadows
>One of his side-pieces fell for it and now is changing her initial statement, trying to get on his good side (even though he ghosted her before)
>Heidi accuses Jared of threatening legal action if she speaks up. Unfortunately Heidi casts “Absorb Elements” just like she did for his initial divorce statement. Jared takes an extra 1d6 damage on her next melee attack.

Strength: 5
Dexterity: 5
Intellect: 15
Stamina: 10
Luck: none
Charisma: send noOds

Holly "Manic Pixie Butterface" Conrad (current power-level):
>Got into D&D, started thinking she's literally Strix - her character
>Cheated on Ross with Jared the Wormdick while trying to manipulate both Jared and his wife
>Once Heidi (Jared's wife) revealed her as a side hoe, she locked down everything and checked into the tumblr hospital
>After getting back on the net, she started autistically defending herself and Jared, claiming she never cheated and Heidi is literally Hitler
>Professional victim, her NPD can be seen from space
>Emotionally abused Ross, claimed she never felt love until she met Jared
>Claims to have not cheated on her ex-husband despite his refusal to make one comment about the situation in her defense
>Can't stand even tiny criticism about herself, reads her lolcow thread though
>Compared Etika’s suicide, a popular black YouTuber, to her own suicidal ideation by showcasing they both received clown emojis as “bullying.”
>Suffers backlash from the black community, Etika’s fans and Twitter
>After being called out for taking advantage of a person’s suicide, Holly infamously deflects criticism by tweeting, “I’m sorry. I’m mentally ill.”

Strength: uwu
Dexterity: uwu
Intellect: 4
Stamina: 100
Luck: ran out
Charisma: clown emoji

Holly Conrad’s Previous Stats:
>Holly is a “talented cosplayer/craftsman/special effects artist and well respected in the community”, even appearing on Syfy's "Heroes of Cosplay"
>Was one of the main focuses of the 2011 Documentary "Comic-Con Episode IV: A Fan's Hope" (directed by Morgan Spurlock)
>Originally gained notoriety for her Commander Shepard/FemShep cosplay
>Married to Ross O'Donovan, beloved animator and member of the GG Family, from 2012 to 2018
>When it came to Arin/Suzy vs Ross/Holly most people preferred Ross and Holly, because they felt less fake and Holly was famous separate of Ross, not riding her husband's coattails like Suzy.
>Was best buds with Jared's wife Heidi, another talented and respected cosplayer/craftsman
>Apparent tragic backstory = quirky anxiety uwu. I don't really know the whole backstory on this one, not sure if it really matters.
>But was apparently close to her grandfather and inherited his house(?) in Washington(?) when he passed away which was in theory part of the reason she and Ross amicably split. Jared and Heidi just also happened to live in Washington.
>Other speculated factors included Holly being asexual (lmao), the toxic GG fan-community, "having codependency issues", and wanting to leave LA while Ross wanted to stay
>Publicly their divorce was mutual, amicable, and came as somewhat of a shock….OR WAS IT?
>Basically all this drama is so juicy because Holly "quirky manic pixie dream bird gurl, asexual anxiety, luvs animals so obviously wouldn't hurt anyone uwu" Conrad was the surprise plot twist villain we never saw coming

For More On Holly Conrad:
>A History of Holly: >>838840 (Source: PULL)

Strength: uwu
Dexterity: 20
Intellect: 17
Stamina: 22
Luck: 100
Charisma: Not Suzy

Heidi of the House O'Ferrall, Hell Hath No Fury, Giver of Zero Fucks, Destroyer of Careers
>Non-lewd cosplayer, talented craftsman and elf
>Produces tutorials and shows her work in progress pretty in depth
>Has a degree in Theatre/Costume Design
>"She had sex with my husband", top 10 anime deaths of all time
>Married to Jared Pedodick Knobslob
>Was in a poly relationship with Jared
>Claims Holly was the reason it didn’t work out
>Outed Jared’s infidelity and set twitter ablaze
>Working on her current divorce and perhaps a defamation against Holly Conrad for trying to claim she had BPD and that psychologists have deemed her “unfixable”
>Has started to become more vocal on that drama since Holly’s Etika sperg
>Claims emotional abuse by Jared and gas lighting, and also seems to insinuate her enjoyment of sex has decreased
>Blocks overtly sexual cosplays because of the ProJared controversy
>Currently living alone in a new home and trying to start up her business and craft in a way to support herself
>Accuses Holly of being vindictive enough to have done everything in her power to end her marriage and happiness

Strength: 90
Dexterity: 71
Intellect: 82
Stamina: 64
Luck: 20
Charisma: Zinfandel

Dan Pirro from the Honorable House Pigeon
>Dedicated white knight of Jared and Holly’s that created a campaign to prove #heidingthetruth
>In direct contact with Holly Conrad Flying Monkey

Jessica Slater from the Honorable House Pigeon
>Holly stan and dedicated “sister”
>Runs a clearly objective truth blog on tumblr while putting down Heidi on twitter

Participation Trophies go to the following for their dedication:
>BorkScorpion, RainbowTressym, TigerNightmare, UnicornHoodlum and others
>May or may not be sockpuppet accounts
>Tier 3 WKs, to be mostly ignored
>Autism awareness is sometimes being aware of who to avoid

>Jared Knabenbauer/ProJared:


>Heidi O'Ferrall/AtelierHeidi:


>Holly Conrad/Commander Holly:


>Normal Boots:


The Expanded Universe:

**Game Grumps
Previous GG Threads:**
>Jon vs Dan speculations, are the Suzy nudes real or fake, blah blah blah, old news. Seriously, don't ask to be spoonfed this old dried up milk. Go read about it on your own.
>There is a whole subreddit dedicated to GG Rule 34 where they sexualize the girlfriends/wives as well as the grumps called r/polygrumps. Suzy once long ago tweeted in support of polygrumps, but it seems like an especially toxic corner of their already toxic fanbase. I doubt she would confirm that support today.
>GG sells a merch line called Game Gyaru "based on Arin and Danny, reimagined as female characters inspired by the anime series Dirty Pair, named Arina and Daniella respectively". It's a blatant tracing of the characters from "Dirty Pair" that they did not initially acknowledge.
>GG release body pillows of Dan and Arin. They sell out very quickly. It's gross: >>792883
>Guess what Jon's an even worse blatantly sexist/racist person than we ever could have imagined

Suzy "the Goose" Berhow:
>Has a history of scamming fans by buying cheap jewelry from China and the likes and reselling it to fans with an absurd markup as her jewelry line or as one anon put it: "creating a really expensive jewelry line that involved very little effort on her part". Arin has to come to her defense when people find out.
>Previous threads over the years were mostly about Suzy's "thyroid-related" weight gain and absurd styling choices, scamming, and how she's a ~rEaL gAmEr GuRl~
>No one seems to really have complaints about her current styling choices since she lost weight and the skunk stripe and adopted a more natural look (it's much closer to her twin sister Jean's)
>Suzy was a "model" when younger, and will still constantly repost the same pictures from her past over and over again, in case anyone forgot
>There sometimes seemed to be some unspoken tension between Suzy and Holly. Suzy seemed to give off the vibe of being uncomfortable not being the only cool gamer gurl in the GG group, especially when up against a girl that seemed to prefer and respect.
>Seems plausible that she prefers being the female center of attention given the theory that JonTron's swift and dramatic departure from GG was due in part to some beef between Suzy and Jon's girlfriend at the time. IIRC this is still all just speculation. (Jon's too big of a topic, read that one on your own for the full backstory)
>A/N: I would be kind of surprised if she showed any support for Holly at all, but maybe that's just me

Katie (Most recent GG drama unrelated to PigeonGate 2019 ):
>Suzy claims she and Arin have been together since 2002. Arin's mysterious deviantART ex Katie shows up from an apparent cryogenic sleep after 10+ years and throws an insane hissy-fit about how Arin was pursuing HER during that time and she turned HIM down.
>Thinks Suzy poisoned Arin against being her BEST FRIEND despite the fact that she was married, disappeared from the internet, lived across the country, and was definitely leading Arin on for some time. Arin seems to have bought her some gifts in this time.

Game Grumps:

>Suzy Berhow/Mortemer:


>Arin Hanson/Egoraptor:


>Dan Avidan:


>Minor cow Katie, rejected Arin way back when and regrets it now that he's famous:


About Dice, Camera, Action:
>DCA is/was a popular D&D livestream DM'd by Chris Perkins (WoTC story designer)
>It's cast consisted of Holly Conrad, Jared Knabenbauer, Nathan Sharp and Anna Prosser
>All of them turned out to be cheaters, hooking up with each other and breaking marriages/engagements

>Wafflecrew/Dice, Camera, Action:


Filed Under “Other”:

Ross O’Donovan
Do Not Bother Ross O’Donovan
>Game Grump and animator
You May Support and Subscribe at:
>Ross O'Donovan/RubberNinja:

Reminder from Mods:
>Subjects have to be 16+ to be discussed on lolcow. Do not include Holly's 15 year old friend’s face or social media posts here.
>This is also a reminder that cowtipping is also against the rules, do not contact the girl or her parents because of her relation to Holly.
>Keep whiteknight posting to when they actually spill milk.

No. 996019

Next time can OP please cut out the same repetitive filler that's been a wall of text for over a year? The character stats aren't funny anymore, the "npcs" are barely active, and the "file under other" hasn't been relevant for a long time. Just tired of this repetitive copy and paste where the op never waits for feedback

No. 996046

Good thread pic choice, though.

No. 996105

There's time for OP or you to repost and get a mod to delete this one (scrolling past that part is quite annoying)

No. 996111

I agree with the other anons, there's a lot of unnecessary shit in the op.

No. 996126

do we really even need to include the grumps/suzy/ninja sex party parts? i don't think they've been talked about at all in the last thread, this might as well just be a projared / holly thread.

No. 996128

True, any talk of them gets steamrolled by the minimally important tweet/holly ugly discussion du jour

No. 996145


Holly and Jared have been the prime focus of this thread for over a year with almost no grumps milk, and if the Grumps do produce in the future it probably won't be related to these two chucklefucks. I agree that it's past time for them to be separated. Either their own thread as a couple or a DnD cows thread to include people like Koebel etc that were also heavily discussed in the past thread.

Some anon has jumped the gun on like three threads in a row with no wait for discussion, and the recent summaries are full of nitpicking. Also "Ope" makes you sound like a midwestern mom OP

No. 996340

I second the DND cow thread

No. 996613

agreed, the game grumps need to be separate because the connection has long gone and is obviously never going to be made again.

No. 996716

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I like his new trend of being annoyed by people sending him sexual messages… as if he didnt encourage this behavior for YEARS to the point of literally fucking fans.

But yeah, Jared, you are so sexualized and harrassed uwu

No. 996737

It's like he's blatantly trying to ignore all of those "mandatory, send nudes" posts he made before it blew up in his face. Legitimately no one has forgotten those, PedoDick. There is proof everywhere, but yeah, you and the mistress can continue pretending like we're wrongfully sexualizing the shit you've done.

No. 996740

honestly this new trend feels like another form of manipulation. he's pretending to be annoyed and is doing it publicly so he can have something to lean on when he does find new fans to fuck and swap nudes with.

a normal person would just block and delete. this is him leaving a trail to protect himself going forward when he feels comfortable enough to go back to being a sexpest.

No. 996745


That and he's desperately hoping not to get caught up in the sexual predator purge happening at Twitch right now. If he loses his channel, he is done.

No. 996753

manipulative people like jared just love calling attention to things for seemingly no reason, just so they can control the narrative that follows. he's not doing this for stupid, unaware reasons.

i don't think this guy is a master manipulator or anything but he definitely knows how to make himself seem pitiable in order to get his way. heidi even pointed this out and it's why she still defends him when people call him a predator.

No. 996758

Yeah, without his channel, he's not an "e-celeb that just got caught up in the fame" - He'd just be your average, garden-variety potential-pedo that lurks around younger people, asking if they want to see his Sailor Moon cosplay.

No. 996761

Also, if he didn't want to risk getting sexual/lewd messages, why the fuck would he answer a question about his underwear of choice? Dude did this to himself and is once again trying to be a victim of circumstances out of his control. Get fucking real, PedoWorm. If I were more cynical, I'd think this was Hoelly or BlueJay sending him these so as to give him the chance to be the victim.

No. 996766


Maybe he is just salty because he knows that that person doesnt actually want his gross nudes and is trolling

No. 996774

it's probably a guy who asked him this or a girl who doesn't meet even his standards. this is the perfect way for him to weed out the undesirables.

No. 996955

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No. 996960


Its refreshing to see at least one member of the TTRPG actively against Jared. Sometimes it feels like this thread is the only place where people ever call pedodick out

No. 997015

And wouldn't you know it, "borkscorpion" is right in the comments going "NUH UH".

No. 997051

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So sick of the "His whore exwife made up the false accusations to ruin his career"

Heidi didnt come forward about being a minor he sexted

Heidi didnt come forward about being a fangirl he fucked at a con

All Heidi did was tell her truth about her emotional abuse and experience with cheating

There is so much fake news about the situation, Jared is so fucking lucky about that

No. 997072

I don’t understand why it matters who first revealed he was soliciting fans for nudes. He still solicited fans for nudes! He still normalized it amongst he’s (some of which were underage) fans and took advantage of them so he could get off and maybe hook up. He’s still responsible for that and hasn’t apologized or acknowledged how messed up of a situation it was that he helped create and normalize.

All this deflection crap from fans and such just make him look like a creep who doesn’t think there was anything wrong with it… (lbr that’s probably exactly what he thinks)

No. 997136

it's good to see how Jono phrased the ProJared stuff as how he got nudes from his fans, some of who were underage.

because even though he didn't actively seek out nudes from underage fans he still sought nudes from fans and got nudes from underaged fans who lied about their age. all of that IS true. people like to forget or intentionally obfuscate the controversy by saying Jared proved his innocence when the only thing he proved was that he got nudes from fans who lied about being of age.

ProJared is only innocent in the fact that he wasn't actively seeking child porn. he just accidentally acquired it and jerked off to it because teenagers lie and he didn't really care to think about the potential consequences of soliciting nudes from fans.

No. 997154

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a bit old, but i got a chuckle out of this. I know a lot of people dismiss jp's shady dealings as him being a business first and foremost, but it doesn't really match kobel's lefty soft boi persona to cross a picket line like that. also I've been curious what the fallout with steven was about, and I think this is the best explanation we're going to get

No. 997190

They must be quaking now that a lot of the biggest streamers have admitted themselves that the allegations against them are true. Noticed Holly's only liked the tweets about the cancel culture part of the twitch scandel and not the part where some of the 'scandels' are actually true and men with large platforms really can be scumbags like her boyfriend sometimes and those few absolutely do deserve to be 'cancelled'.

No. 997222

Holly doesn't care about what shit you pulled, she just wants to crusade against the bad cancel culture uwu

No. 997288

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No. 997289


I noticed this, too. Jared is liking tweets about people apologizing to him, and Holly is liking tweets just about cancel culture.

Neither acknowledges the elephant in the room, which makes it seem as if they have no intention of ever facing that reality.

I am glad that most people older than 20 who aren't incels can see beyond their manipulation tactics. I keep hoping it's just the vocal minority of angry trolls and young impressionable men who make it seem otherwise.

No. 997308


Wow, Anna comes across as a huge asshole. Not a good look. I'm loving how everyone in Holly's friend group is getting exposed lately

No. 997312


It still blows my mind that people like Anna and Holly use their positions/clout to essentially silence victims just to insulate their abusive social circles, only to turn around and act like they're against abuse.

No. 997313

In some ways, Anna is more disgusting than Holly. Tweeting at someone calling her out, then adding that this person is not responding, so "anyone reading this, keep in mind that my side is more nuanced than what she said."

All the OP wanted was Anna to acknowledge that she's failed in the past. No wonder she and Holly match so well — never take responsibility, only double down on being a victim of "more to the story."

No. 997319

Which definitely explains Holly & Jared's behaviour right now, according to:

Holly probably thought her cosplay-superhero story would get everyone off her case, but tbh, all it did was remind me that she was a better person back than.

No. 997320

They want to be the only victims in the room because it makes them feel special.

No. 997322


I wonder if Holly will come to Anna's rescue like she does with her 'boys'…

No. 997324

Considering Holly's internalized misogyny, my money's on no.

Then again, Anna isn't blonde (and therefore EVIL), so who knows!

No. 997326

Tough call, Anna does enable her shitty Strix fantasy but Anna also keeps her head down and doesn't set herself on fire going to bat for shitty abusers like Holly. Anna is also a conventionally attractive woman and former Ms Oregon though so I'm going to say no.

No. 997330


Holly always reminds me of the quote "the road to hell is paved with good intentions".

If you're a good person who does good things for a bad cause, then the end result is still bad overall.

No. 997334

It's no surprise Anna is a piece of shit. She enabled the affair of Jared and Holly, cheated on her own husband with Nate, and then publicly rubbed that relationship in everyone's face. Now her ex husband is dead and she didn't even seem to care and instead immediately went back to pushing her merch with the dude she cheated on her husband with.

No. 997355

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Damn, the replies to this are fucking golden!

>"In addition, if you tried to make amends doesn’t mean someone has to trust or forgive you."

>"These are the repercussions of your actions

No. 997362

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If only Anna's former co-workers could actally learn from their 'mistakes'…

No. 997391

Isn't this pretty much what Jared did to Chai, btw?

No. 997442

Suddenly makes so much sense why she's still sticking so close to Holly and Jared.

No. 997451

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Glad other people are seeing the patterns here too.

No. 997458

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No. 997476

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No. 997491


Describes Holly and her circle of friends. I'm glad the public is finally seeing it

No. 997546

Anna can go fuck herself. There doesn't need to be a reason that Mary came forward with her story, even if it WAS resolved in satisfactory manner - It doesn't negate that Anna's first instinct was to hold a meeting and accuse her of overreacting.

No. 997565


Hopefully this will stick on her since cheating on her husband with Nate didn't (for some reason?)

No. 997571

The cheating didn't stick because she was smart enough to keep her mouth shut and head down, whereas ProDick and Hoelly screamed about it to anyone who would listen (or at least Hoelly; PedoWorm was too busy letting her take the primary damage to her rep)

No. 997572

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…Protecting someone from the consequences of their actions is doing a big disservice to them in the long run.

No. 997578

The thing is Holly doesn't view what Jared is doing as wrong, and these arent' consequences for being a liar, manipulator, and sexpest - It's just that unfair cancel culture by his evil whore of an ex! /s

No. 997581


I think Holly is fucking delusional when it comes to Jared. She is so dickmatized that she doesnt see anything he did as wrong. that and she probably only knows about it from what he has explained to her, I doubt she saw the whole operation, especially in its prime. it's not like Jared was like "hey look at this hot fangirl I'm about to bang", I'm sure the way he put it to Holly was "yes I receive nudes but its only for body positivity uwu, besides, we are Striath, we are different"

Holly just seems too jealous to be totally on board with him sexting and fucking fans. Maybe I'm wrong because she obvs knew about it but if she loses her mind being jealous of Jared's literal wife I dont see her liking his fan fucking behavior

Then again she is still good buddies with Scarlet Moth who admitted to sexting and sending nudes to Jared, so who knows. Does seem funny that he has reached out and sent nudes to SO many of Heidi and Holly's friends. Must always be in the back of her mind when he interacts with other female creators/cosplayers. I hope it kills Holly inside knowing that Jared was talking to literally dozens of attractive women while she was sitting at home crying about his marriage every night

No. 997588

It's not just Jared she's delusional with, it's anyone she likes.

Adam Koebel's abuse was very easy for ANYONE to see, it happened on a livestream and was archived on YouTube.
She still wouldn't take him to task.

Her friends can do no wrong.

No. 997602

It's funny because in the end, Holly was a good human shield. She was loud and drew much of the attention away and seems to have been affected by the fall out a lot less over all. Though, I suppose she wasn't the one trading nudes with fans in the end. Wonder how long Jared will stick around with her now that the divorce is actually final.

>I hope it kills Holly inside knowing that Jared was talking to literally dozens of attractive women while she was sitting at home crying about his marriage every night
Bu…but she won, anon! She overcame all those awful, abusive, beautiful women who were just using him! Diath, I mean Jared, Is finally her's! What a prize! kek

No. 997624

iirc jenny nicholson pointed this exact thing out WAY back when jared released his bullshit "statement". i have no idea why it went ignored but perhaps that should be quote tweeted to every moron who can't stop screaming about how jared was only viewing CP by accident

this is so scummy it's borderline beautiful. i've said this before and i'll say it again: this whole """community""" of DnD performers who get their heads blown up and start considering themselves celebrities above minor inconveniences such as accountability, the whole ass community, is cancer and should be tossed out lol

No. 997632

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Looks like ProPedo's stans are already on the offensive - one created a countertumblr to TrashWitchCoven, attacking Heidi while trying to defend ProPedo and Hoelly.

No. 997713

Whos JP?

No. 997715

I mean i dont like anna either but was she supposed to wear black and cover her head for seven years to mourn her ex husband? Shes still a self employed woman who needs to sell her merch..
On a side note, did her ex-husband started dating the ex-fiancee of the guy anna cheated with or i allucinated that? Not that it matters, just, what a fuckfest if its true lol

No. 997718

The guy who ran the RollPlay channel where Adam Koebel sprang that creepy sexual assault in one of his games.

No. 997719

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I’ll just leave this here

No. 997731

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No. 997733

Also known to be pathetically thirsty before he finally bagged his current wife and is being accused by kaitlyn of abuse and grooming. He confirmed that he was boundary crossing, controlling, and used her as an emotional crutch but wrote off the parts about pressuring her via not letting her bf come around and 'grooming' her. Kaitlyn's own behavior is it's own post, just wanted to cover the JP info.

He's trying to retroactively justify his sex pest actions by normalizing sexual content in his feed now despite the fact that his primary outward facing persona was always much more family friendly.

No. 997734

Oh fuck the both of them so hard with a rusty spiked bat.

No. 997736

Oops forgot to add that he was accused of retaining a cast member despite being made aware of them sexually assaulting/raping someone (no one has said who the cast member was yet but it's no Kobel).

No. 997740

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No. 997743


Ha this was the first thing I thought of as well. She really doesn't learn

No. 997745

The sheer irony in calling them "clout chasers" when his biggest supporter is fucking Keemstar.

No. 997750

So is there a secondary thread for game grumps? I cant believe that in this wave of nerd flavoured metoo nothing has come up against either dan or arin - after years of saying suzy was the only girl he ever had sex with, he casually mentioned once he had sex with other girls and suzy knows, i wouldnt be surprised if they are poly and he has a pool of thirsty fans to choose from

No. 997752

Good for them if they are - As it is, there hasn't really been fresh GG milk in awhile.

No. 997776


Holly's gotta make sure Jared knows his place at all times, huh?

No. 997782


I checked out that "HeidiOFans" tumblr. Looks like any one of the core Jared stans desperate to start a fight. The only thing they can reply with when called out is "lol u mad bro". Not really worth giving them any more attention than they already got.

No. 997797


Ding ding ding

I thought about posting about them here yesterday but I think we should all agree to just ignore them. They even made a long dramatic post about how soon they would get attention and that they were so scared of lolcow finding them. All I'm favor of never giving them the attention they so desperately want?

Also, that username… yikes. "I'm all for Jared fucking fans because body positivity but women are whores and what do whores use? Only fans!" Clearly that dude needs to grow up and stop posting lolcow screenshots

No. 997806

>but women are whores and what do whores use? Only fans!

That's a poor conjecture. Her name is Heidi O'Ferrall. Heidi O'Fans. It's a shit blog, and I agree that we should let the fire starve by not giving it any oxygen, but don't say stupid shit like that, it's kind of cringe.

No. 997808


Genuinely confused about what he's complaining about. He's mad Dr Disrespect has stans? That people are commenting and trying to figure out what happened? That some other youtubers are supporting him or even just talking about it?

I know that he's just a miserable person who constantly complains, but what even is he trying to say?

No. 997809


That's fair, I didn't consider that. I just figured it was supposed to be an only fans reference since his stans have mentioned her starting one in the past and she even replied to someone on Twitter about it a month or two ago

No. 997840

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>"clout chasers leeching in the replies"

You mean like this one?

No. 997841

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Also WHAT?

No. 997848

Ah, the "Etika's suicide is just like the clown emojis I'm getting." saga.
So long ago now.

No. 997857

Ah, the OG Clout Chaser, the "Let me take this mentally ill man's suicide and turn it around to make it about me"…..It was a more innocent time.

No. 997864

Holly really did "I'M HERE TOO" to someone else's suicide

No. 997872

>tfw it's been one fucking year since you wrung yourself out making a social pariah of yourself for some noodle dick
>and he still won't shout you out when you appear in his twitch chat

No. 997879

Makes you wonder if she regrets not just shelling out for a quality vibrator and keeping her reputation/career intact instead of doing the equivalent of lighting herself on fire for some sad hipster dick. I mean, she quite literally ruined any chance of becoming famous and getting the adoration of everyone and for what? Someone who's willing to fuck anything with a pulse? Shit Hoelly, all you had to do was send nudes, not nuke your entire life.

No. 997880

Considering she's being welcome back to the D&D with the #dndblockparty that's being organized by a lot of people officially involved with the D&D brand, she's still got clout to go around sadly.

Everyone on that side forgave her instantly.

No. 997885

Yeah, they might have forgave her, but she still gets to live the rest of her life being known as little more than "Side Ho to an adulterous potential-pedophile". I truly do hope her shittiness keeps her up at night.

No. 997888


I mean, she's making a craft on a livestream that currently has only like 150 people watching on Twitch. That's scraping the bottom of the barrel. Her rep took a huge hit, regardless of whether the DnD crew still associates with her

No. 997892

In terms of non-Critical Role D&D streams, 150 is a lot.

Shit like "D&D Communitea" and "DMsGuild Design Dash" are lucky if they get fifty.

No. 997898

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Nah 150 is still shit. Look at the Highrollers stream right now on the yogscast they have 6K+ right now. There are a lot of dnd streams with thousands of viewers

No. 997900

holly used to be legitimately famous, for her 150 subs is literal shit kek

No. 997914

This. Holly had +270,000 twitter followers, the love of the community, and was the rising star in DnD. Now the highlight of her career this year is making a craft -not playing DnD or even being interviewed- on some nothing charity fundraiser stream. Sure, she still has friends in the DnD community, but you can't say her career wasn't absolutely destroyed compared to where she started

No. 998009

And all for a guy. Geez. Being fun babies must be nice.

No. 998011

*trustfund babies

No. 998046

Yeah, especially when she was married to Ross and in the Grumps circle, she was liked by a lot of people who thought she was better than Suzy. Plus she was praised as as someone who was pansexual (at the time) and a gamer, so she had fans for that too. Pretty sure a lot of those same people are no longer around to praise her for anything anymore.

No. 998061

I wonder what her next label will be, i feel like asexual is kind of out of fashion. Transness is VERY in, but going full male would be committing too much, so my money's on nonbinary woman she/they

No. 998065

I was just getting ready to say that. With the listing of her pronouns, it wouldn't at all surprise me to see a desperate pride month grab of "I've decided to come out as NonBinary". Her and Jared's new fanbase will eat her alive, as transphobic they all are.

No. 998076

She had the she/they on her Twitter bio before she revamped and tried to ape Heidi's forest witchy stuff before going back to a Strix catchphrase.

No. 998114

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Regardless of all the other shit Holly and Jared did, I hate how they hurt Ross. I still see comments like this and it's so gross that people rub it in his face that Holly left him for Jared. Leave the guy alone!

No. 998116


I wonder if Jared's little comment earlier was about him?

No. 998122


Even worse will be the Jared stans coming in to say "It wasn't cheating because Ross was ok with it!"

No. 998125


Wait, were Jared and Holly making fun of Ross? What the hell?


The worst part is that Holly and all of their central group of stans are probably actually victims of Jared, too.

They're all nice people who are being manipulated by their compassion. Holly is someone with a clear savior complex who seems to feel emotions way too much sometimes.

Doesn't change the fact that they're also hurting other people by trying to silence any conversation about Jared's behavior in the past.

No. 998127

According to Holly's PULL thread, she didn't seem all that nice to begin with. She did some pretty crappy things and hurt people before ever even getting with Jared.

No. 998132

Yep, she tried to gaslight people who had negative experiences with the Heroes of Cosplay production and swindled a cancer survivor out of like two grand that was paid up-front for a cosplay piece.

No. 998154

> Wait, were Jared and Holly making fun of Ross? What the hell?
Probably a mix of 1.) fear that him being vested in drama might mean him being comfortable with getting into drama himself and possibly speaking up and 2.) wanting to subtly undermine him in case he does come forward he'll already be a little discredited.

not saying that ross is into drama, but i think if holly and jared were smart they would fear him a bit since he can easily debunk their whole web of lies, and they tend to react to people they can't control very poorly and illogically.

No. 998209

Jared and Holly are living together. They're both registered to the same address.

No. 998214

Well thank god Ross upgraded to a well adjusted high value woman that treats him well and with respect instead of some embarrassing pick me.

It'd be a shame if he actually took that jab to heart.

No. 998224


Been trying to tell people this lol, they've been living together for a year. But what do you mean by "registered"?

No. 998230

Pretty ironic that the guy who had all the financial power in his last relationship and used it to manipulate his partner is now in the opposite position.

I hope he enjoys Holly holding him hostage by the purse strings AND all the dirt she'll screech across the internet if he ever tries to leave.

No. 998235

His auto insurance, and ID are all registered to the same address.

No. 998240


Imagine sharing the home you own with your sex pest boyfriend who won't even acknowledge you in his twitch streams and pretends you aren't together online. For free.

No. 998263

No wonder Jared seems so dead inside kek

No. 998285

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But he still openly associates with the equally toxic/talentless storytime animators.

Ross is a great guy and talented animator, it's a shame he spent months on his latest cartoon could barely get 300k views but STAs can shit out their "animations" almost constantly (mind you Jaiden/James hire animators now, so it's not even their work!) and break well over a million views easily.

No. 998338

How come JaidenAnimations is considered toxic? I don't mean to defend her just curious to what happened.

No. 998345

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>But he still openly associates with […] talentless storytime animators
>he spent months on his latest cartoon could barely get 300k views but STAs can shit out their "animations" almost constantly (mind you Jaiden/James hire animators now, so it's not even their work!)

So the guy who busts his ass to make his art high quality is also the one who enjoys the company of the ones who laze around and put no effort in. and you're mad because…? If he wants to hang out with people who don't try as hard as him, who gives a shit.

I'm interested in those toxicity receipts though. Assuming you're not pic related, that is.

No. 998349

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>No wonder Jared seems so dead inside kek
Good thing Holly saved him from that sooper dooper abusive relationship! Look at how much he's thriving by her side! wow.

No. 998365

Holy shit!

No. 998377

>auto insurance
i didn’t know insurance was considered public record. is that a US thing?

No. 998390

Yo, I hate Jared and Hoelly as much as the next person but isn't it kind of fucking creepy to be looking into someone's auto insurance, ID, and home address?

No. 998451

Yes, it is. I don't even know where anon'd be finding that info.

No. 998455


Unless that anon has access to a database that we don't, I would place my bets on "made up proof to sound right".

No. 998456

While I find it 100% believable that they live together, I am hesitant to believe that anon's claims on where they found it.

No. 998457

Does it even matter if they live together or not?
Doesn't really change anything about their relationship, does it

No. 998462

Beyond enjoying the mental image of Holly’s birds shitting all over Jared’s game collection and filming setup while he tries to hide their relationship online, I personally don’t really care what their living situation is.

No. 998469


Yeah I'm not buying it. IF he did move in she must have sacraficed a big room for him so he could have his game collection/set plus his streaming set up. We all saw her house in that apartment tour thing she did, there really isnt much room

No. 998472

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The place has a basement, that wasn't shown off in the tour.

Entirely possible Holly just wasn't using it, and Jared set up down there.

Where he belongs, with the rats.

No. 998476

kek, she's exactly that kind of sjw

No. 998484

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What the fuck is wrong with Geraldo

No. 998511

what does STA mean?

No. 998522

also nonbinary woman is the perfect label for those cis chicks who didnt enjoy playing with dolls and hate pink and in their minds this means they have gender dysphoria lmao.

why am i not suprised she was already a she/they

No. 998525


I was thinking about how she had she/they in her profile because yesterday i hopped in her part of that dnd stream and it said she/her by her name for pronouns so maybe she realised that people wont be happy with her pretending shes nonbinary for clout

No. 998573

Storytime animators.

A new breed of animation that began to take over in the late 2010s. Traditional newgrounds style animations (i.e. the ones made by Arin Hanson/Egoraptor), could go viral in youtube in the late 00s but in the early 2010s the algorithim shifted to favor minutes watched/upload frequency. Luckily for the talentless STAs, their form requires little effort (especially since they are able to hire animators now…) and can be produced in a short time frame.

No. 998593

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Jesus, Jared is more of a pussy than the fucking cat is.

No. 998640


Gasp, Aries abused Jared too!

I'm honestly just really glad jared didnt try to keep Aries. I know he was Heidi's cat before she ever got with Jared but I wouldn't put it past him to claim that Heidi was too unstable to take care of him

No. 998642

I stg if i had a "fan" like this I'd be investing in a handy dandy restraining order
She does this on both Jared's and Holly's crap, it would be borderline psychotic if it weren't so pathetic lol

No. 998645


Inb4 Jared gets all "I never like that furball anyway!" & attempts a photo-op with Mojo.

Speaking of, I wonder how Holly's cat & birds respond to his presence, if they actually do live together…

No. 998646


…Or he'll just claim that Heidi abuses her cat too…

No. 998648


…Didn't Jared disapprove of Charlie & Chai sharing art/fics of GG ships?

No. 998652

Yep. One of his biggest arguments to their unreliability as "victims" was that they were creating lots of GG fan content, along with commissions. He considered it a sign of them being mentally unwell and thus couldn't be trusted.

No. 998680

And yet Jared was all for fans drawing art of him and Holly's DnD smut and him as a succubus, does he think they're mentally unstable too? Or is it only cool when it benefits him?

No. 998683


> Or is it only cool when it benefits him?

Jared and Holly in a nutshell.

No. 998684


Obviously the latter. It's no surprise he encourages this behavior & only judges it when it makes him look bad.

No. 998686


Honestly I think Holly rewarding her with friendship has made her double down with her fangirling. Her and her husband honestly seem to think they are influencers in their own right just for being SUCH big fans of two Z list youtubers. She has learned this past year that if she defends and replies to everything they post that they might give her a crumb of acknowledgement

No. 998688

Her and her husband have gone on a couple of “nature hikes” with Hoelly so it’s not like they’re 100% wrong

No. 998689


Has anyone ever called Jared out for queerbaiting? He has been doing it for years now

No. 998694

it's not queer baiting because gay men have enough self respect to not be attracted to the lowest of the low like him. apparently he is great for holly though, so good for her.

No. 998703

I don't think saying "this is beautiful" about a fanart image of oneself is queerbaiting simply because it includes his "persona" or himself kissing a fictional male character. Jared isn't pretending to be sexually attracted to anyone who presents as male or another gender identity.

I hate Jared as much as the next person, but unless there is evidence that isn't complimenting fanart for fan points, I don't think queerbaiting is something that is applicable to him.

No. 998759

Wasn't there a time when he was encouraging people to draw gay Asagao fanart though?

No. 998783

1) he's a real person and therefore cannot "queerbait" anyone into believing he can decide on a whim to bang dudes for representation
2) he could be bi/pan. In my heart od hearts i want to believe the rumor of him coming too son in a threesome with two other guys lol

No. 998789

straight men can queerbait

No. 998804

Yeah ofc they can, but queerbait what? That in the season finale of the projared show he's going to make out with austin cograve aka pbgamer?
He's a real person, not fiction

No. 998956

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More of the annoying bad brain day dialect… please I'm begging them just speak normally and not all uwu

No. 998971


Old news and I don't want this dude getting any more attention, but what are the odds that sadoldmagician got mad that nobody paid attention to his "ask a pj2 mod" tumblr that he made the heidiofans one to openly attack Heidi while pretending he's still on Holly's "be kind" brigade?

No. 998976


i don't care if she calls it "a bwainy wainy booboo" as long as she stops positioning herself as some kind of a mental health expert.

No. 999030

Bold of you to assume she'd stop doing that.

No. 999086

This is just screaming of desperation for asspats. Why else would you announce to the world when you're having a "bad brain day"? Just log off like any other human being with an ounce of self control.

No. 999088

This is the woman who less than six months after having to check herself into a mental hospital, thought it appropriate to try and sell mental health tips on patreon. I don't think she'll stop fancying herself as some kind of expert any time soon.

No. 999134

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Apparently bad brain days mean searching your own name

No. 999142


Holly has a weird narc issue where she needs to be an expert in everything she does. Cosplay, Dnd, mental health, mushrooms, conspiracies. She can't simply participate, she has to make "courses" or youtube explanation videos. Even her twitter posts can come off as bossy. She'll never stop.

No. 999163

Andnot because of thoughts of self-harm or suicide….
But because she needed to hide from the mean internet.

No. 999576

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Oh, fuck off, Hoelly. You belonged just fine until you defended your sex pets of a boy toy that may or may not be a pedo. Not surprised to see her #1 stan right there, ready with the asspats

No. 999613

Boohoo, the D&D community doesn’t like that you openly support sex pests who use their status in the D&D community to prey on and sexually exploit fans and players. How intolerant of them!

No. 999639

You guys know the Hi Namesearcher account is just a meme and doesn't magically know when people search their name on twitter right? It's just a bot that picks a name at random from their list and inserts it into one of their prewritten tweets. If you look back at its timestamps you can see it tweets at the same times every day, like most bots.

There's no way to find out what other users search on twitter. People get outed as namesearchers (or searching some other phrase) based on interacting with tweets they likely wouldn't have seen otherwise, or other incriminating behavior.

No. 999659

Considering Hoelly has admitted before that she looks up negative tweets about her as a form of self harm, the bot - albeit random - isn't that far off.

No. 999665

Oh yeah, their list of names (linked in their bio) is of people who are known namesearchers, I just wanted to point out that the bot's tweets don't really mean anything/aren't milky.

No. 999702

You're right, but it's funny because Holly blocked the bot and its almost become a meme within itself

No. 999796

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In Holly's likes

She really does have a hard on for people rightfully getting cancelled, huh? Not at all surprised that she feels bad for Shane, tbh I'm just surprised she hasnt openly come out in support of him since she loves trash men with pedophilic tendencies

No. 999800

It's funny because TRS latched onto Holly HARD specifically because of his own hang-ups with cancel culture.

In other words, one of the targets of his shitty drama channel masquerading as a mental health channel clapped back at him and he couldn't handle the backlash.

No. 999832

Really? Hadeel is IN the inner circle, she's in the Friday Ravenloft game on the official WOTC channel, which is produced by the D&D social media manager. She's about as "in" with the community as one can get without being officially involved in game or adventure design.
Freakin' drama queens…

No. 999970


Honestly I think Holly just sees the word "cancelled" and stops there, I dont think she reads into anything besides the fact that she found a fellow victim uwu

Still so funny that she tries to make herself out to be the big "cancelled victim" of the drama when Jared AND Heidi had it wayyyyyyy worse than she did. Yeah she got lots of shit but it was nothing compared to what the other two got and still get. I bet it annoys jared hearing her whine about it

No. 999978

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Didnt she say she wasnt Asexual like she thought she was because Jared awoken feelings that she, an adult married woman, had never felt before?

No. 999992

Maybe a tiny bit, but he probably still thinks Holly got it worst than his ex, because in their eyes Heidi is nothing but an evil vindictive harpy who the internet wrongfully sided with.

No. 1000006

actually the demi flag not the asexual flag

please give up holly, you make this scene worse

No. 1000307

lol, isn't this the "I'm straight but want to be included ''sexuality''"

No. 1000333

no no, it's its own special lgbtqa+ label, NORMIES are horndogs who want to bone the first person who comes their way and think about sex CONSTANTLY, demisexuals ONLY want to experience MAKING LOVE to one person after getting to know them and developing feelings; see, totally a unique experience exclusive to them

No. 1000341

i literally never heard of an explanation of demisexuality that would actually make it sound like it's its own thing instead of just people making shit up so they can be included in the lgbt+ community. i don't get why she just doesn't go back to pan if she wants that, is she so repulsed by women she can't even lie about past crushes to get a pass?

No. 1000343

that's the thing, i don't think she's lying on anything she's saying, she wholeheartedly believes all of this shit, when you spend so much time on the internet you start to.
Oh, sometimes i think women are kind of hot? must be bi.
The honeymoon phase passed VERY quickly with my ex and i had no intention of having sex with him, and in the midst of this boredome rpg-sex with my male married friend made me wet? well, i'm falling in love with my friend so i must be demi.

No. 1000428

File: 1593617918433.jpg (134.16 KB, 1080x423, Screenshot_20200701-113815_Chr…)

Who do you think Jared was thinking of when he liked this tweet?

No. 1000432

"My ex was suicidal once and it was totally a manipulative tactic, and my own behavior and mistreatment of her had absolutely nothing to do with it!"

No. 1000456


What gets me is that Heidi literally tweeted last summer at Holly that she had seen all the texts Holly had sent Jared saying she would kill herself if Jared didnt leave Heidi

No. 1000460

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Fucking oof.

No. 1000475

I really gotta praise Heidi for not backing down from speaking her truth on the matter, despite multiple people acting like SHE'S completely in the wrong.

No. 1000533

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The whole thread explains quite a lot, tbh.

No. 1000535

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No. 1000540

kek she's absolutely right i'm sick of seeing polyamory considered LGBT

No. 1000543

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Jared seems to sexually identify as polyamorous. "I didnt cheat on my wife, but I did tell her that I refused to close our relationship because I decided that my identity is being polyamorous"

Like someone said last thread, Jared's biggest advantage is all the fake news about how their poly relationship worked. His fans think that she opened it just to bang a bunch of black dudes but didn't want him doing the same thing. In reality she gave it a shot and decided it wasnt for her, she shouldn't be antagonized for changing her mind. People are allowed to revoke consent

Also like Heidi said he didnt ask for a divorce until months after she wanted to close the relationship. He didnt say "if we can not have an open relationship then I will have to end this because that is what I want" instead he lied to her for months about having agreed to closing it and guilted her for requesting him do so while he had multiple physical affairs and a serious emotional one

Also I'm sorry but with how much of a jealous pick me Holly is there is NO WAY that she will be okay with polyamory. I know that the "anonymous source" scarlet moth told the petition owner months ago that Holly and Ross had an open relationship (they also said that that their marriage was abusive for HOLLY, think about that) but there is no fucking way. She claims to be demisexual yet is in a relationship with a sex addict who identifies sexually as polyamorous. I'm sure their relationship will end sooooo great

No. 1000546

Many of the replies said it best; Jared just wanted a haram

No. 1000547

File: 1593631314844.png (308.82 KB, 720x937, 20200701_151602.png)

There it is; the reason she went public with all of this.

No. 1000571

Heidi is beyond criticism post #6,595

No. 1000572

Legitimately no one has said she is beyond criticism - She has said as much herself. The difference between her and Hoelly is that she recognizes she did wrong; Holly still, to date, has refused to accept that she's fucked up at all.

No. 1000577

>I know that the "anonymous source" scarlet moth told the petition owner months ago that Holly and Ross had an open relationship (they also said that that their marriage was abusive for HOLLY, think about that)

Yeah I did, and that's a load of bull. Ross was in therapy and super depressed for MONTHS after the divorce. He would stick up for Holly whenever she was wronged and said so many times of how she loved her. Unless they both hid his abuse really well or the extent of the abuse was "annoys her in a childish way", that'd have to be other way around.

No. 1000582

You called someone an asshole for giving a legitimate criticism, albeit in a shitty way. So yes, that equates to "Heidi is beyond criticism".

She could have made this take without implying that people who identify as "poly" are in the wrong.

No. 1000584

Deleted the post b/c it's just some rando attempting to argue semantics with Heidi.
My apologies.

No. 1000585

Well, I didn't do that, so okay. If you're going to attack Heidi for apparently making cold takes about poly, I should see you going after every single person who has called Heidi a whore who broke off poly because she was jealous that Jared was getting laid.

No. 1000591

Have you seen anyone say that criticisms of those people are unwarranted here? No? Then you know I agree with that.

But nice whataboutism, trying to avoid admitting it was a bad take, I see. You know, that whole "beyond criticism" thing I mentioned before, it really seems like you're trying to justify that.

No. 1000593


>Ross was in therapy and super depressed for MONTHS after the divorce

I saw many Jared+Holly stans telling people that Ross "seemed happy after the divorce", & then I remember exactly this & I fucking see red, because they're trying to rewrite & sugarcoat everything for those less familiar.

No. 1000641


Jolly stans think that Ross is their #1 shipper. Fucking delusional

No. 1000877

They really weaponized his "leave me out of this".

Also, it's Hored not Jolly.

No. 1000922

it makes me so mad that they turned him into a cuck, as if he was super cool with 'his wifes boyfriend' and they just got away with it. Good on him for staying out of it though, otherwise they would've painted him into an abuser too.

No. 1000980

I still think there was some truth to the insinuation they were an open couple and he would fuck around, esp if she was using the excuse of being asexual to never have sex w him.
Then again it would be an heidi situation, poly doesnt mean "i do the fuck i want and you have to be ok w it" and holly still breached his trust by dumping his ass for a turd with googly eyes glued on top lol

No. 1001033


Yeah but in the texts between Holly and Heidi she literally told Heidi that Ross was okay with her hooking up with women but not men, and that was AFTER her and Jared's infamous walk and she called Heidi abusive for revoking consent

No. 1001042

This. It always got me how Holly said "Oh, I'm going to tell him everything" to Heidi about Ross when like, he's the FIRST person you should have told - not your boyfriend or boyfriend's wife.

No. 1001068


Especially because it wasnt "I'll tell him" it was "I'll tell him after we are all at our mutual friends party next week" I feel like she just wanted more time to sext rp with Jared before Ross potentially cut it out

Maybe Holly told Moth that Ross was abusive for the same reasons Heidi was; he said no

Also does anyone know the date of those messages/the walk/when shit went down? I wonder if the DCA episode following it was awkward or weird between those two. Also when are we gonna get a DCA Hored cringe compilation lmao

No. 1001081


Obviously tinfoil, but here's a theory about how the events might fit together:

- Holly and Jared confess their feelings Feb 2018 during their "walk"
- according to Heidi's stream, Holly and Jared immediately begin explicitly sexting before Ross is even aware that Holly wants to be poly
- Heidi gets mad, revokes consent for this reason
- Holly calls Heidi abusive for getting mad and raising her voice. Jared is pissed by this accusation and tells Heidi
- Holly slithers in with the "I thought you would hate me because you're sooo nice and pretty" apology. Holly promises to tell Ross what's going on, after an upcoming party
- Instead of saying, "I love Jared but not you" to Ross, she instead tells him that Jared is being abused by Heidi and she's soooooo worried and they need to get involved
- Ross is then manipulated into visiting and supporting Jared because he thinks this is an abuse issue and not just them setting him up to be chucked. Allegedly tells Jared about Holly's history of abusing him but "it's better now" so he just wants to support a friend who is supposedly going through the same experience
- Jared, having how heard from two "concerned friends", tells Heidi that Ross is on his side and that they are all just concerned about her abusing him
- Heidi begins feeling confused and isolated as Holy successfully triangulates the issue and begins adding more minions to the "save Jared from Heidi" campaign.

Most of this info was given in Heidi's tell-all stream, but the real tinfoil is Ross' missing perspective. This is just an idea about what might have happened to justify Ross supposedly "supporting and visiting Jared" early in the drama, but later completely withdrawing and supporting no other players.

No. 1001084

This timeline is innacurate.

>- according to Heidi's stream, Holly and Jared immediately begin explicitly sexting before Ross is even aware that Holly wants to be poly

>- Heidi gets mad, revokes consent for this reason

Heidi revoked consent the day after the walk and said it was related to them not answering their phones that night. It had nothing to do with Ross being informed from what Heidi said in the text that day telling Jared he wasn't allowed to go after Holly.

No. 1001089


+ plus they had been sexting before the walk, just under the guise of "Strix and Diath rp", and didnt Heidi say they were planning on banging in costume without Ross knowing?

No. 1001106


Disagres, watch Heidi's stream again


Yes, and she mentioned in the stream that the costume sexting happened between the walk and before Ross was informed, which was the final straw (or maybe one of them)

No. 1001129

I don’t know if she ever clarified what the “last straw” was, but the lack of communication during the walk definitely freaked her out, but the decision that they couldn’t be poly anymore stemmed from the general lack of communication and respect for the married partners involved

No. 1001145

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This is what she talked about the next day, and all of their stories line up saying that she asked to end the poly arrangement that day.

No. 1001169

File: 1593720514542.png (40.99 KB, 584x378, falsememories.png)

>"your twisted false memories"

Well, that's a new one.

No. 1001182

The messages in this screenshot actually line up with Holly's accusations of abuse, according to the video at 46:00. The abuse accusation was a direct result of the convo where Heidi revoked consent and yelled at Holly (38:10). All these events happened back to back so it's easy to confuse the order.

Explanation of the walk starts at 37:00. She goes on to mention that they didn't even know if Holly and Ross had an open marriage until that point.

48:30 she starts mentioning Holly's marriage

"Another disclaimer – I have no idea what his experience was like, I can't speak for him… all I know was that I watched Holly taking advantage of a situation that had not been cleared with all parties"

51:00 "I said no before he had an opportunity to say yes"

51:37 - she mentions the reason she yelled at them was because they were explicitly talking about banging in costume before Holly had a convo with Ross about opening their marriage. "If you'll do it to another person in this situation then you'll do it to me. And that is the point where I pulled the plug"

55:15 "so it's actually this day that she accused me of abuse"

It's a complex situation to explain and she gets ahead of herself at points and has to clarify or go back in the explanation timeline. Just watch it though.

No. 1001192

Moth? Who's Moth?

No. 1001194


ScarletMoth, one of Holly's fans/friends

No. 1001246


Shes also the "anon" source that went to the petition owner last summer before Jared's video came out. She claimed to be a former twitch mod of his who had sent nudes and sexted him before despite being asexual and said that Holly's claims of Heidi's abuse were accurate, that Ross had know about and supported Hared, and that Holly and Ross's marriage was abusive for Holly at times. She shared personal texts between herself and Holly with the petition owner to post but Holly reached out to him herself to ask him not to share them

No. 1001294


She also pretends like she knows Ross personally, despite Ross never talking to her personally.

No. 1001314

Someone should ask Melissa how those memories are false. I'm genuinely curious about her logic in this one.

No. 1001332

funny, considering Ross doesn't follow Moth (or unfollowed her?) I have no doubt Holly told Moth all that though, considering she thinks everybody who doesn't asspat her blindly is abusive.

No. 1001334

She's also another abuser enabler like Holly, she basically cancelled her RPG game when she announced delays due to "technical difficulties" that turned out to be one player quitting because another player had let an abuser go scot-free elsewhere.

Birds of a feather.

No. 1001343


I just cant imagine it doesnt freak Holly out knowing all these mutual friends of hers fucked/sexted Jared explicitly

No. 1001357

Poor Heidi. This shit must have been so frustrating to deal with. Jared is trash

No. 1001373

Ross and Heidi were following Moth until they were informed she was the "anonymous" mod who tried to act like Ross and Heidi were the abusers.

No. 1001494


It's sad how many people on Hared's sides reasoning is "Well, Holly told me!"

No. 1001498

File: 1593786260087.png (120.81 KB, 720x718, 20200703_101514.png)

Context: Recently, many 'top players' in the competitive gaming scene were accused & confirmed to have been grooming and/or having sex with underage fans/players

No. 1001499

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…And I'm glad someone actually pointed out how familiar these recent incidents are with this whole thing.

No. 1001504

Any time now the "he didn't get them ALL back!!" brigade should storm into this guy's replies. I just don't get it - Even if you don't believe Heidi, he STILL used his fame to get fans to send him nudes and fucked AT LEAST one of the fans at a con where he was supposed to be working, not getting his rocks off.

No. 1001549


Honestly I wonder what the alternate timeline is if Heidi had stayed silent about her abuse and Jared got the easy divorce he wanted. DCA would be going strong, him and Holly would probably be offical now, and in this moment in gaming culture he would be getting cancelled like everyone else is.

No. 1001552

With how things are going today, Heidi probably didn't even need to say anything in hindsight.
Although she'd probably snap from Jared's stans begging her to defend him despite being divorced from him.

No. 1001555

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This person voices a similar concern:

>"I'll never forgive gamer fandoms for having no moral backbone"

It's also a good reminder that 'mob mentality' works both ways.

No. 1001557

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Louder for the people in the back!

No. 1001579


Jared is just lucky that his scandal was at a time where no other influencers were facing those consequences, and he is also lucky that he got a huge anti feminist group of men to circle jerk about "false accusations" in his name

No. 1001584

File: 1593797895158.jpg (334.04 KB, 1440x1661, 73716161.jpg)

>Jared is just lucky that his scandal was at a time where no other influencers were facing those consequences

No. 1001600

Oh hell, I could STILL see some of the more idiotic stans try this when his skeezy predatory behavior happens again. "Please, Heidi - you have to still have love for him SOMEWHERE! You kNow he wouldn't do this!"

No. 1001683


I meant for fanfucking gamers, but fair point

No. 1002078


If/when that that happens, all Heidi needs to say is "Oh, now you want me to speak up?"
& literally nothing else.

No. 1002331

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No. 1002336

Assuming it was about Ben? the editor making sexual jokes about Jacob Sartorious or whatever and implying he had his nudes
Jacob being a minor

No. 1002381

Someone in the replies is trying yo get the dan scandal going, bless her soul. That is one tower i feel like will never topple, everyone loves that singing toilet brush too much

No. 1002423

I really don't get why people like him, even besides his creepiness his showmanship is lacking. He is stupid, unfunny, boring, and doesn't even play games 90% of the time.

No. 1002425

He bounces off of arin well, but for sure his appeal is the "big brother" vibe, reassuring and sweet. You often forget he's a 40 y/o, he really sounds and acts like a goofy dude pushing 30.

I dont particularly like his singing either, he may have perfect pitch but when he hits those notes he becomes so nasaly i cant stand it.

No. 1002429

yo this board is a fuck but i'm here and i'm the real life brother of Chai so AMA faggots

No. 1002430

Proof or gtfo fag

No. 1002431

believe me or don't. i'm just interested to find a whole year long chan thread chain about my family.

No. 1002433

Sure ill bite. How your sibling doing? Are they telling the truth re jared, swapping nudes while chai was a minor?

No. 1002434

100%. i'll start off by saying that despite the memory loss he suffers as a result of the axonal brain trauma, he's still trustworthy for major details and would not lie about this to gain anything. he's been an egobang stan since i introduced him to game grumps as a preteen. there's not much else that needs saying there really.

No. 1002435

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Holly “Be kind and positive!” Cumrag, everyone

No. 1002472


Did he go into hiding because of pressure from outsiders? I feel like a lot of people take that as some kind of admission of guilt, even though to my mind it obviously isn't.

Also, did he ever contact anyone else who was affected by Jared besides Charlie? If so, do they have any plans to come forward with more information in the future?

I hate that Jared used your brother as a scapegoat to make his case. I'd love to see him get some justice, but I don't know how to support him.

No. 1002480

Holly, is this healing?

No. 1002494

So on top of not having proof of being his brother, you dont have proof he actually swapped nudes with jared after disclosing he was underage?

Sure, jan.

Tbh the most unbelievable part of chai swapping nudes is that he looks not at all like what jared likes lol. No offence but he looks like a chubby little boy and so far theres no indication that was what jared's into. That's the major reason why i do believe that if chai wasnt straight up lying, was either exaggerating or delusional.

No. 1002497


I'm not the brother. I'm someone asking the brother questions. Sorry if that was confusing. I have no idea if his brother has any info about the nudes, that's why I was curious.

And I don't think we can tell based on how the person looks. Heidi and Holly are two very different people, for example. It could also have been a power dynamic thing more than just a desire for nudes of a specific type.

No. 1002509

Yeah, "i'm the real life brother of chai" is a real vague statement, along with responding in first person, of course im the one who read it wrong /s

Im bored and i want to believe you but you lost me at a brother who doesnt find at all odd his little 11 y/o sister (at the time) ships egobang, later comes out as trans and exchanges nudes with a grown man

No. 1002531

I think you replied to the wrong post there.

No. 1002537

Lol you're right, my b

No. 1002641


Remember, Jared seems to have a fetish for vulnerability.

A disabled kid with self-esteem/body-image issues would seem like a perfect target for someone like him.

No. 1002651


Exactly this. It's about power, not attraction.

Reminds me of Shane Dawson constantly making edgy remarks and asking fans to twerk for him etc. It's not realistic that he's individually whacking it to every single person. It's about the power he feels that he can make them do something embarrassing.

No. 1002653

Where do you get the "fetish" for vulnerability? From the reliable proof we have he surely likes to be the one in control and be adored, so he bangs fans, but none of the girls that spoke up and released infos said anything about him specifically singling them out because they were in a frail state of mind.

I don't like Jared, he abused his power and i am 100% sure he'd do it again if it wasnt for the scandal, but so far he doesnt look like a full on predator.

Dan, on the other hand……. That i could believe

No. 1002712


I recall Heidi saying something in her video along the lines of Jared being the type to look for 'broken' girls, & that she was one of those when they met.

No. 1002718

Holly's "insecure" nudes she sent to Jared was likely her playing to that type for him.

No. 1002771


For sure, and Holly makes sure that everyone & their mother know about her "fucked up childhood"

No. 1002814


I think it's less "I like insecure people" and more "I like that insecure people are more likely to sext/fuck me for validation"

No. 1002827

I seriously doubt this person has any connection to chai, but I have heard from a few sources of hat Chai stopped posting because he was being pursued legally by Jared and most likely couldn’t afford a lawyer/ his family made him go silent out of fear.

No. 1002858

File: 1593995442100.png (26.29 KB, 580x236, clout.png)

OT, but relevant

No. 1003019

Jesus can you imagine having a kid so stupid he ends up joining a bandwagon for attention and maybe donations and then the guy rightly so retaliates and you have to pay for legal fees

No. 1003029

File: 1594023466429.jpg (57.54 KB, 750x697, a4c.jpg)

Thanks for reminding me of this savage burn.

No. 1003048

You're clearly unfamiliar with a SLAPP.

No. 1003064

True, youre right.
Still dont believe chai was telling the truth, with the amount of underage fans the guy had i find it weird that only a couple (not even girls) came forward with no substantial proof.
Didnt one claim to maybe have misremembered and ooops my bad guys?

No. 1003065

Chai and Charlie are trans/NB so physically they were female when they submitted the stuff.
There was also the account on Reddit but that's the one I actually doubt.

No. 1003069

So i was trying to refresh my memory re chai&charlie and i ended up on the JHH truth blog (i know it's pro-projared trash, but it's well organized lol), and i read about what a Lying Cunt Heidi really is, because she threatened Jared and by extension all of NB careers for revenge!!! …. With what, if she was lying and jared is perfectly innocent of all his wrongdoings? Cheating is scummy, but not illegal. But sure, heidi is the lying bitch, SURELY jared never did ANYTHING remotely dodgy that would sink both his and NB boats…

No. 1003072


> "Your twisted false memories"

That my friends, is gaslighting.

No. 1003100


Yeah but anon, gaslighting isn't aboose if Holly or her whiteknights do it! The only aboose comes from Heidi and her scary yells after being gaslighted

No. 1003215

Most people do, since the one on reddit was very "FUCK JARED" until he reached out to them and then magically it was "He's misunderstood, you guys"

No. 1003219


>"FUCK JARED" until he reached out to them and then magically it was "He's misunderstood, you guys"

You can not convince me that Jared simply 'reaching out' caused that one to flip so quickly.

No. 1003228

Well, he either "reached" out by banging her with that curved worm dick one more time, or he threatened her with a defamation lawsuit too. We won't know until he missteps and we end up going through this all over again.

No. 1003240

No, not Unogirl.

There was another account, ProJBurnerAccount, that claimed to be underage and that Jared knew that fact.

That one is a less believable than other accounts because of how many perversr revelations Jared supposedly told them compared to anything anyone else came forward with.
It's the source of the "standing naked in front of his window" and "prematurely ejaculated during a threesome with two men" claims.

No. 1003253

Ah, I think I must've had the two confused. Yeah, that one is still not widely believed because what dude is going to admit to cumming too soon during a threesome, let alone a gay threesome when he wasn't openly out?

No. 1003260


Didn't they just post & dip though?
I don't remember seeing anything else from them afterwards.

No. 1003262

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No. 1003264

Pretty much - They dipped when they started pushing that bullshit Jared/Heidi truth blog and DanTheMan started hyping the info that he never did release since Holly asked him not to.

No. 1003266

Never forget that Holly admitted that she only started saying Heidi was abusive after Heidi yelled at her on the phone for fucking PedoWorm. Heidi was abusive for being angry, but Hoelly was just the poor mistreated saint.

No. 1003267


Yup, they posted and claimed all this stuff and then never again. Even their receipts were dubious.

At least Charlie had some screenshots even if they did lie about their age.
Point is he shouldn’t have been asking for nudes from fans of any age which would have stopped him from receiving underage ones.

It’s especially gross that he used the body positivity guise to weed out the fans he thought were attractive so he could message them further for sexting/con meet ups vs telling the “ugly” fans good job and then ghosting them.

No. 1003268

File: 1594071832058.png (40.58 KB, 586x358, thanksguys.png)


Jeez, tell me something I didn't already know, Heidi!

No. 1003272

She's been talking about them a lot lately. She needs to take a vacation from thinking about them.

No. 1003277

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(see pic)


There's been a lot of controversy going around involving popular Youtubers/Gamers/etc predating on their fans and/or abusing people lately.
I think that people should take a second look at this whole situation & what Jared has done to improve himself one year later (besides insisting that he's the victim).

No. 1003279

"I bought you a car, Heidi. You can't be upset with me. It's like a rule or something."

For fricks sake, you buy shit for the ones you care for out of the goodness of your heart, not to use to prove some point when you fuck up. I feel like 95% of his fans have never been in a stable and loving relationship if they think this is a good excuse to not be mad.

No. 1003280

I love that the tool brings up Jared buying her a car like (A) it's unusual for a husband to buy his wife things and (B) it's unusual for the partner with the bigger and/or sole income to purchase shit like that. Considering he offered her the car as more of a "hush shut the fuck up pls" thing…

No. 1003282

There is a subreddit called rantgrumps that is basically trying to ruin game grumps over this, who have been bringing it up repeatedly. They clearly are blowing things out of proportion because they just want the show to die. His tweets were stupid bullshit jokes but this whole situation has been the worst side of the cancel culture. Cancel Jared and a million other people over their shit, but this situation is just stupid.

No. 1003283

Given Ben posted an apology about it, I think the grumps agree that his comments were inappropriate.

No. 1003289


I'm pretty sure he owed her a car since they shared one and he was leaving her. If he told her he wanted to be her financial provider he doesnt get to act high and mighty when she needs necessities for living on her own

No. 1003309

He "bought her a car" in the sense that she used their shared bank account to pay for it, I'm pretty sure she clarified that part.

No. 1003375


ben is an adult man in his 20s or 30s who sent harassing messages to a kid to send nudes. and then his gut reaction when people found out about it was to get mad and block people pointing it out instead of reflecting on it and being like "yeah okay i can see why that wasn't the best move."

joke or not, the whole thing is fucking weird. i'm past the point of giving randos the benefit of a doubt. there are better editors out there that also don't send creepy messages to minors for "fun." i'm failing to see how telling a kid to share nudes is humorous but then again i'd be hard-pressed to find a time in which i could consider anything ben has done as "funny."

No. 1003432

It’s clear to me that it was meant as a joke, since it was tweeted publicly, and repeatedly. It’s certainly not appropriate and isn’t funny, but it was meant as a joke, and the intent is what really matters in this situation.
That said, the more important issue in my mind is what it says about everyone involved. Why does Ben think it’s okay to joke like that? Why does Arin think it’s okay to keep him on as editor?
I think people trying to cancel GG over this are ridiculous, but in my opinion Arin should fire Ben. It’s really not a good look at this point. Like you said, there are many people who could edit, and Ben isn’t even that good.
I’m sure Arin doesn’t want to cave to pressure, but at this point he really should for the sake of his brand. Even if the controversy is unnecessary, it’s bad for business.
I just don’t understand. GG is a Company. Ben is not their friend. Just send him on his way.

No. 1003481

huh, maybe it's because i LOATHED supermega's style of editing and all of their fuckups, but i really enjoy ben's, it's non intrusive and most of the time a fun easter egg to find (well, ok, mostly it's dick jokes but you know, GG aint high art).
The true king was og Barry, hope he's doing ok.

>> I just don’t understand. GG is a Company. Ben is not their friend. Just send him on his way.

it's the same reason why it was Arin apologizing for GG, instead of the corporate GG account: GG's appeal is the "two big brothers playing games with you", right, sure they scream and cuss a lot but they're also "sweet" and positive and they are the bestest friends! Everyone at GG is a friend! I bet that if GG were to fire Ben, people would make it an absolute nightmare for Arin and maybe giving a second chance to an edgelord is better than the headache that would entile

No. 1003508

I think because she finally signed the divorce papers recently she can talk about it a lot more freely.

No. 1003516

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I think arin is a bit soft-hearted and felt like it would be unkind to fire someone whose mom just died. I don't agree with that decision but it sounds like Arin. It's only a matter of time before other creepy stuff Ben has done/said comes to light and he gets let go. Like he posted creepy tweets to/about a minor for 4 years! That means he started when jacob was 13. Who in their right mind thinks that's ok? And funny at that? At best he just looks like he is weirdly obsessed with a teenage boy. There has to be other edgelord attempts at humor floating around.

No. 1003526

Amazing that a guy with "penis" in his twitter handle is a dick lol

Damn what an edgelord. Who is this jacob sartorius guy? Why does he keep trolling him?

No. 1003543

File: 1594124957513.png (48.66 KB, 586x662, power.png)

>"When you give someone the power to do what they've always wanted to do, then you see exactly what they've always wanted to do."

No. 1003544

File: 1594126363065.png (44.72 KB, 586x630, sendnudes2.png)

Friendly reminder that people really should re-think the whole "Projared is innocent!" thing…

No. 1003553

The only people who still believe that PedoDick did nothing wrong are going to keep believing it until he GROSSLY goes over the line (as in literally fucks a minor or something) or attacks one of their other favorites. If they don't believe he did wrong by now, they're not likely to change their minds.

No. 1003578

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I'd like to say that the only people who support/believe Jared are completely uneducated on what actually happened and only picked up bits and pieces from the memes, but unfortunately plenty of his fans know everything and just dont care

Also, did anyone else see Holly's new insta post? Thoughts?

No. 1003579

"I'm the victim! Poor me! Mean comics were drawn about me which is worse than abuse and gaslighting. Also don't forget that I had to see clown emojis. I am always the real victim, poor me."

No. 1003582

File: 1594133030812.png (5.02 KB, 322x140, descisions.png)


Best reply I've seen to that post so far

No. 1003587

Thoughts? It's just more of Hoelly's "Boo hoo me, I'm not like other girls, pls tell me I'm the prettier one!" bullshit. Making dramatic posts like that on insta and once again alluding to the drama scream insecurity and "please give me asspats". It's desperate, and it's fucking ridiculous for a grown ass 30+ year old woman.

No. 1003588

I also love that she mentions the people on the internet who claim to be "kind and tolerant" when that is literally her entire schtick - "#BeKind unless I want to fuck your husband and then you're an abusive, mentally ill, unfixable cunt"

No. 1003590

I hate that women are judged by their appearance, not their content, but that is the way of society and media, Holly. You chose a career that involves being visible, and yeah, people are going to evaluate you based on your appearance.

Definitely the best response. Holly can look like a sack of potatoes or a supermodel; it's her actions that make her disgusting.

No. 1003610


Especially since before the drama no one would call her unattractive even if that's what they believed, because she seemed really sweet and that would be fucked up. But now that everyone knows shes a huge piece of shit then what's holding them back?

No. 1003638


…uh, did she post this before or after Heidi posted about feeling pretty for the first time in a while?

No. 1003646


After, of course

"Oh, you felt ugly after your husband left you for me and made you feel like shit for a year+? Well what about ME"

No. 1003650


>After, of course

Oh god, the whole 'skinwalker' thing just keeps becoming more believable by the day, doesn't it?

No. 1003656

Imagine being with someone this fucking negative. I'm beginning to think she's an emotional vampire.

That's some passive aggressive skill right there. Holly is a one upper. Comes with the "pick me" types.

No. 1003682


"Comics" there was one comic, that shadman one that you had liked, Holly. If you dont know who shadman is ask your boytoy Jared, I guarantee he is a fan

No. 1003720

You know it just kills her inside that a vast majority of people agreed that Heidi was way more attractive and Jared was downgrading.

She does have a haggard face but her attitude has made her look 100 times more hideous. Even she is far too physically attractive to be with Jared though. He looks like a fucking monster. They are probably close to equals on the personality spectrum though.

No. 1003737


Love how she writes this post in a pseudo-confessional tone so that her audience feels totally connected to her insecurities… then she's gotta optimize that shit for maximum interactions at the end! Like share and tag someone that inspires you!!!

No. 1003739

Exactly - It's essentially begging her stans to comfort her and tell her how pretty she is hidden behind more of her "#bekind!" shit. She's also got comments limited so the only ones you see are the ones from her adoring stans, no one else.

No. 1003740

>it's essentially begging her stans to comfort her and tell her how pretty she is
And Heidi's post is different because…?

No. 1003749


Tbh I think Heidi is way out of Jared's league and that he is way out of Holly's league. Atleast he (somehow) has confidence

No. 1003753

Wtf kind of childish take is this? this serves nothing, and is pathetic. Jared and Holly are ugly personalities that just want to protect their precious internet image instead of owning up to their abuses of power and protections of those that abuse their power

No. 1003761


Probably expecting people to say she's their source for fashion, or she is just running out of ideas to rip off from other fashion lines.

No. 1003768

Because Heidi doesn’t typically mention self confidence issues. Hoelly has pretty much made a living off of “uwu not like other girls”. It’s also fucking creepy since her fuckbuddy used body confidence as a cover for his potentially pedophilic nude blogs

No. 1003769

File: 1594160665014.jpeg (1.22 MB, 1343x2048, 650ED08E-8578-48BE-9BE2-6B78AF…)

Holly back on that “I’m so sad, look how depressed I am guys” train

No. 1003770

I find it weird that she seems to be saying she was confident with a great self-image until the drama. She's always seemed somewhat insecure (almost everyone is, it's not a bad thing), especially with her upset around the 'prettier' femshep and intentionally choosing to play and portray herself as conventionally ugly characters - e.g. trash witch. It just feels wrong that she's writing this post about her insecurities and essentially saying 'This whole issue has made me hate how I look' as if she didn't have issues with her appearance in the first place.

Maybe I'm being overly critical or reading it wrong but it just feels disingenuous to me. If she'd said that it had made her feel worse, I'd understand wholeheartedly, but to imply it only stems from the drama feels like yet another attempt to make people feel bad for disliking her.

No. 1003773

Everyone is out of Jared's league

No. 1003783

lmao we knew she'd blame Heidi for any of Jared's current issues, but now it's even funnier that she's pinning the blame for HER personal problems as well.
She's been facetuning the shit out of her eye and cheek bags even before she targeted Heidi. Compared to the pics where she smooths out almost everything, she looks like a completely different person.

No. 1003791


Tbh I dont doubt she was insecure because I mean look at her. If you watch any of her streams she is always hunched over and nervously chewing on her hands. Plus she was doing DnD shows with very classically gorgeous women like Anna or Erika Ishi

I'm sure she has always been insecure- or atleast since her Ross divorce- but the one thing that kept her going was knowing that Jared picked HER, but now that everyone knows about her fuckery and roasts her it became a lot worse

No. 1003795


>but the one thing that kept her going was knowing that Jared picked HER

Which makes it pretty funny now that we know Jared only picked her because Anna wasn't available…

No. 1003796

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Hey Unsolved Mysteries, I've got an idea for your next season!

It's the mystery of how this bitch still has any clout.

No. 1003809

I knew we'd get this. It feels honest, when your husband is fucking everything that moves and leaves you for another woman, to feel unattractive. Plus, Holly is a pity party, while Heidi is saying "I'm okay, I like this."

No. 1003844

If you knew this was coming you could have at least prepared an actual answer, in stead of a deflection.

No. 1003849

It's not deflecting to point out that Holly just HAD to drop a "woe is me, my body is ugly" post like MAYBE 24 hours after her fuckbuddy's now-ex-wife (whom he left for her) posted one about feeling pretty - that's just acknowledging the truth. Heidi was being authentic about her struggled, Holly was doing it to prove that she still has it worse and to get her stans to rush to her defense. Anyone with two iq points can see that Hoelly is still stuck in some sort of weird competition with Heidi, despite the fact that she got her end game of being with PedoDick and getting Heidi out of the picture.

No. 1003873

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How does he not get that he's Amber Heard in this situation?

No. 1003895

not surprising that in a situation like heard/depp where so far the proof about heard abuse are verbal while depp are well documented of him drinking and throwing bottles and being violent against her, he'd side with depp and take his word at face value

No. 1003898

Those two situations are not even comparable. Stop.

No. 1003907


The guy wishes he was Jonny Depp.

No. 1003908

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Now they can be together lol

No. 1003910


Personally, I think Sky Williams can be more comparable to Holly in that he's the enabler in this situation…

No. 1003913


The Amber/Johnny situation becoming so public must have been Jared's wet dream. Now he can just vaguely insinuate that they are the same without having to explain himself or justify his own behavior.

No. 1003914

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I hope the folks in the replies also see that he was (predictably) one of the ones who flipped after watching Jared's video.

Must've hit too close to home I guess…

No. 1003916

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…And not without taking a swipe at Chai, no less.

No. 1003921

Incel MRAs always love this case cause they can rage out at Amber Heard as much as they want to at real victims and use her as a scapegoat for why other women are lying. He's pandering to his fanbase well. It's been over a year now, so these incels aren't just Jared's new demographic but his demographic.

The thing that always gets me about anyone who reacted positively to Jared's video or anything he and Holly have said about the nudes situation since is that it's boggling there are all these grown adults who think the response of a gown man upon finding out that he's accidentally been sexually involved with minors should be anything but to examine how that happened. He needed to apologize for taking advantage of his fans, and talk about ways to change his behavior that he could be held accountable to follow through on. Instead people want to accept the scraps of "lol yeah i got off to the nudes but they said they were 18 checkmate I beat cancel culture."

No. 1003923

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No. 1003934

Most of the women championing Me Too have been exposed as liars/projecting their own issues onto their partners for a shred of clout but ok

No. 1003938

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A good thread:

>"…Saying “Don’t pick on Heidi” then “It’s all her fault.” He was manipulative and disgusting.

Yeah, pretty much.

No. 1003984

Nice bait, fuck off

No. 1004002

Why do all well known youtube predators have that weird "I'm a goldfish with bulbous eyeballs pointing in two directions and dead inside" look?
An anon in another thread pointed out Shane's eyes looking like Onision and now I can't stop noticing it.

No. 1004009

Too many of them have roots in Innsmouth?

No. 1004079

It's still funny how Anna and Nate were cheating on their partners at roughly the same time as Holly and Jared did, but there wasn't any major drama because everyone involved managed to act like an adult.

No. 1004151

Man, it's almost like ending the relationship and not soliciting your fanbase for nudes and not trying to paint the spouse as an abusive harpy and doing things like a goddamn adult when you're in your 30s means you can avoid a WOTC blacklist and career-ending drama.

No. 1004202

She probably would have said no, too. Jared looks like an eldritch horror.

Kek, pretty much this.

No. 1004216

i hate the replies on this post, it's just uninformed kids and shitty neck beards parroting that jared did nothing wrong.

No. 1004255

Those are the same people who wouldn't hesitate to call someone else out for doing the EXACT same thing, if Jared started the call out. The blind, "we stan" mentality of D&D neckbeards is just ridiculous.

No. 1004268

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Sage for no milk.

Someone is spamming this at Jared and I am screaming.

No. 1004273

Lmao at the anon on /ot/ currently exchanging nudes with this bird looking ass dude.


No. 1004322

Exactly what Jared wants.
"Nothing more to see here! Nope! Nothing to reconsider!"

No. 1004335


>Jared looks like an eldritch horror.

I guess that's what Holly sees in him.

No. 1004397

Just checked, if it's true then that's fucking hilarious!

He sure is a 'changed man'! lmao

No. 1004420


Probably what he's gonna have to do in a year or so when his receding hair moves him from a Spoony to a Doug Walker.

No. 1004449

To be a "changed man", he'd have to recognize that he did anything wrong in the first place - something he has not fully done in the year since it all came out.

No. 1004586

Well i hope anon leaks that shit lol

No. 1004605

If they are living together do you think Holly ever walks in on him jacking off to a prettier girls nudes then goes on twitter to 'self-harm'. Thats the bed shes made for herself.

No. 1004615

I feel like she's been depressed lately because she's realizing Heidi's truthbombs about Jared not staying monogamous are becoming reality. She's probably spiralling. Like Lainey, she doesn't want to give Heidi or the ~haters the satisfaction of laughing at her stupid ass so she's going to blame the backlash last year for why she's feeling insecure. She thought Heidi was the only obstacle to overcome but she didn't realize when a man gets with his mistress, it only creates a vacancy.

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