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This thread is for the discussion of transgenderism / trans ideology from a gender critical and radical feminist perspective. It was originally created by Admin as an amalgamation of the TERF and Transgender threads.
Gender critical and radical feminism define gender as sociological (feminine/masculine) and sex as biological (female/male). Woman is defined as an adult human female. Radical feminists seek to abolish gender as it is used by patriarchy to oppress women socially, reproductively, and financially. They strive to preserve women's spaces (such as restrooms, locker rooms, and health care providers) and areas of artistic and intellectual expression separate from men.
Trans ideology posits that one's gender is self-determined based on one's feelings and defines woman as the characteristics and behaviors traditionally ascribed to females by society. Increasingly, transactivists are conflating gender and sex and asserting that a person can self-identify both gender and sex.
Gender critical feminists strive to maintain the distinction between gender and sex. The conflation of gender and sex erases the biological reality of women, eliminates women-only spaces, and disestablishes women as a protected class. Existing laws and legislation currently being passed around the world allowing for self-identification on legal documents do not differentiate between gender and sex.
The acronym TERF (Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminism) is used primarily by transactivists and their allies to denigrate radical feminists and other women who express gender critical ideas. Transactivists portray TERFs as violent oppressors by virtue of their ideas alone.
Posts of related news and web articles are welcome. Posts of photos, videos, and blogs of transactivists for the purposes of discussion and critique are welcome. Please refrain from derailing, infighting, and ad hominem attacks. This thread is not intended for the general discussion of feminism, sexuality, misogyny, or misandry.
Radical Feminism thread >>>/ot/373459
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"TERF" thread >>>/g/67378
"Transpassing" thread >>>/ot/214811
"Trans women" thread >>>/ot/203215
"Crazy trans lesbians?" thread >>>/ot/116018
"I hate the way this website treats Trans* issues" thread >>>/ot/113748
Did you miss Admin's announcement? We are no longer allowed to have a GC-only thread.
I am the usual OP and had the updated OP for #22 ready when she made her announcement. I asked in the last thread if the OP needs to be rewritten to be Feminism General.
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I wanted to get input from other anons about rewriting the OP, but the thread filled up with a debate on sex work instead.
That was my exact point in >>>/meta/11245
This is actually so retarded why? This will just create derails. And this bitch really said “problematic
” lmao this is libfem conspiracy!!
Admin's reason for locking the RF thread:>>>/meta/11246
>It attracts too much political infighting on the board overall.>I took the advice of your own moderators for those threads so this isn't my sole decision.
A thread that was created six months ago at the request of anons who attended the town hall and which has been so slow most anons probably didn't even know it existed is somehow responsible for attracting infighting all over the board.
It’s allowed to have Kpop Crit, Kpop Gen and a damn Kpop dump thread. But can’t have separate threads for distinct political
discussions on grounds of being “problematic
”. They are literally blaming political infighting on existence of political threads, instead of you know, simply that the user base itself has brains and opinions with which they use to agree or disagree with one another. Is this the ~radfem solution~ Admin been brewing up??
Lolcow truly wants to be a spineless nonoffending hive mind that women spaces are allowed to be.
I'm so frustrated and need to vent. My local lesbian club just closed.
I joined it about three years ago, and it was a great weekly club where local lesbians (and some bi women) got together and watched movies or went to cooking classes or just hit the nearest bar and had a drink. Great way to meet new friends, and I loved finding so many local gay women.
About a year ago a TiM joined. It was just one TiM and he was on HRT and made some attempt to pass, so although it wasn't ideal I kept going, because other than him the club was still fun. Then he brought a friend, another TiM. And then more friends. And it got to the point the club was 50% men in dresses.
They started talking over the actual women in the club, saying they didn't want to watch movies or go to particular clubs, and accusing the club leaders of transphobia when they weren't allowed to basically demand what we did each week. They always wanted to do spa visits (and since we usually pay our own way for things like that it was expensive) or do make-overs on each other like we were all suddenly 12 and having a sleepover. A bunch of women in the club don't even wear make-up.
More and more real women started to just drift away and stop attending, and I started doing the same. I'm still on the club newsletter though, but I haven't been to a meeting like 4 months. Just got the news the club is officially ending because of "lack of participation." In other words, TiMs infested it and killed it.
Why can't lesbians have anything?
As did I. I've been active in this thread since the beginning and value the community we have created. I come here to share and commiserate with anons who are on the same page about GC, not endlessly debate sex work and other topics.>>460664>>460667
Apparently now this thread is supposed to serve as a containment thread for all feminist discussion and debate because talking about feminism is icky or something.
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Have any obgyns had any troons come visit them yet? What would go on? Even if he did have his penis cut off and replaced by a hunk of tissue poorly sculpted into whatever labia he obsessed over most in his porn addled brain, what the fuck does the gynecologist have to even do with that? I imagine a nurse can address wound care. Do they just sit quietly?
I believe it! What levels of delusion.>>460689
I read here it was infested with transes.
Yes this is about the letter going out from NHS or something to remind them of their pap tests. Dispicable. I remember there were tweets from troons laughing about it.
That's what I mean, this is bananas.
This. Look at what happened to the end of the last thread. Anons don't come to the GC thread to debate sex work and child labor.>>460701
>This thread is not intended for the general discussion of feminism, sexuality, misogyny, or misandry.
sorry, that's what i meant, that the OP thinks so too
. my bad.
If this decision stands even temporarily, the OP needs to be edited to reflect that.
And Braco needs to BTFO.
>>460708>This. Look at what happened to the end of the last thread. Anons don't come to the GC thread to debate sex work and child labor.
You know /leftypol/'s gender and race thread could do with some mature handshttps://bunkerchan.xyz/leftypol/res/15551.html
Right now it's incels and trans having a shitfight about who's the bigger victim
if everyone other than
the radfem/pinkpillers including admin should "go to c.c" don't you think that something is amiss?
we can't have any light conversation on /ot/ anymore. everyone is too hateful now. even the dramu boards, which are about making fun of people
aren't this fucking salty all the time. and it seems everyone's opinions are so polarized and you get called a handmaiden/scrote or radfem/manhater for having any opinion that's not extreme. i think that imageboards are poison for some people, especially people who likely have little going on in their lives. and those people are poisoning the rest of the site.
Do you not see the point?
GC is not RF, and RF is not PP.
And the PP thread is still open.
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just dumping some classics to calm everyone down.
Why the fuck was the board locked to begin with it was barely even active, theres been like 50 posts in the last 2 weeks how is it so 'problematic
I think it might be their misogynistic belief of women getting things free in life, so because they’re ‘cute girls’ now they’re entitled to handouts
I knew a troon who always demanded that his meals be paid for and he got the return customer stamps during the weekly restaurant get together, fucking awful - the worst part was that people went along with it! Even when he admitted that the reason he couldn’t afford it because he bought himself lingerie or some other fetish shit!