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Please post all general issues and complaints here. If you want mods to do something, or have some issue with or suggestion for site content, you should use this thread.>>>/meta/6821
should only be used for technical issues and suggestions (can't load site, site slow, bugs, site feature requests). This thread is for non-technical issues.
Tor posting isn't banned. >>10316
WKs aren't banned unless they're derailing, like really derailing. Otherwise they are a source of entertainment. Taking bait is always banned. >>10317
That is fine, although I think /w/ sort of already has personal weeb/cosplay threads.
NTA, but I get a "Your IP address is listed in tor.dsnbl.sectoor.de." pop-up when I try to post from Tor. It finally worked after repeated attempts, then I just now tried to post a screencap and got a "You have been banned" pop-up and the site went mirrored for me.
I didn't break any rules, and the post was made like 4 minutes before, so I feel like it was an autoban.
Huh, I've been able to tor post before in the past but I'll be able to implement tor support into the new engine. It also has better ipv6 support. >>10331
Just report posts like that so we can actually look into the whole scope of the encounter.
Putting images images behind spoilers unnecessarily makes finding them later a huge PITA; you can't quickly scroll through the thread looking.
It also prevents them from being indexed by Google.
seriously this. someone got banned on moo's thread for joke lyrics, cause it mentioned her weight?
how about don't hire on autist mods next time.
Posts solely about moo's weight have been no contribution bans since the start of the year.>>10355
Sageing isn't an excuse to break the rules. That goes for shay dog/cat derailment too.
Could you consider putting the Venus Angelic thread back on autosage? >>>/w/46865
Ever since it’s been removed it’s 90% cancerous infighting, bumping with stupid irrelevant shit, WKing, reposting of old pictures and nitpicking. Plus, there’s barely anything interesting happening with her nowadays anyway.
yeah mod, I was the first anon to post about this and I had the same experience as >>10328
. I actually got both the banned and the blocklist messages just in the past few hours. I got blocked literally like a minute or two after making a saged post that was within the rules and it happens to me all the time. I think you have a blocklist (DNSBL) set up that autoblocks/bans Tor nodes. https://mxtoolbox.com/problem/blacklist/SECTOOR-EXITNODEShttps://web.archive.org/web/20050207171531/http://www.sectoor.de:80/tor.php
These links may be a bit old but might be useful, I'm not sure who on the team set this up but you should probably take this blocklist off and either only block ones known for abuse or ban/block on a case by case basis.
The only post that’s red texted for derailing is the autistic one about her name.
You sure you were banned for a lipo post?
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Yep. I was only asking because Moo would have already been messing up her surgery if a liquid diet was required because she wasn't sticking to it yesterday. If it was nitpicking then sure I'd understand, but it doesn't mention that.
Handmaiden refers to the discussion of rug behaviour that women do for men, man hate is to highlight what men do and not to discuss women.
Either way that’s where you draw the line?
i'm not even someone who was arguing. i just think you guys are all crazy and this kind of infighting is fucking annoying and toxic
for the board.
>>10391>throw a tantrum because someone made an innocuous post you didn't like, as it had the words "radical feminism">expect people not to respond wondering what tf your problem is>when they do, start making unsaged, combative shitposts and sparking off infighting >later go to /meta/ to demand that the anons who hurt you by pointing out that only a high testosterone individual would unironically be this unhinged and oversensitive over nothing get banned>demand that the site to be made into a safe space for you and that all opinions you don't like should be sent a special containment board to safeguard your emotional hang-ups>liken women not liking TiMs or males to /pol/tards for literally no reason>screech about femcels for no reason (AKA the one tell ALL our resident scrotes and TiMs do, and have done in /meta/ threads in the past)
and you really wonder why people think you're an entitled man and/or troon? go and dilate, you have bigger issues at hand.
inb4 "i swear i wasn't arguing, it's everyone else's fault for posting witch pictures"
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This is the most petty shit I've ever seen in my life.
Just ignore posts that don't appeal to you next time, anon. It's called a "dumbass shit" thread. You're meant to hide it if you're averse to dumbass shit.
And to be honest, what does it even matter if some online strangers think you're a man? Maybe don't get salty about posts that vaguely mention disliking men if you don't want anyone to think that you might be one yourself.
It's pretty petty to come whining to /meta/ over something so pathetic, and
insist there should be a whole new board exclusively for radfems because of it, lmao. Just go to CC, /tttt/, Twitter, Tumblr or one of the many available subforums on Reddit if radfems on LC are so bothersome to you. The /pol/ comparison is ridiculously unfitting, too. Everyone here hates /pol/, including those in GC threads, and those that don't either get laughed off the whole board, or straight-up banned.
Except she lowkey wasn't talking about /ot/ as a whole, but her fit in a specific thread. Keep up.
Again, who really cares if some random person thinks you're a man? So what?
ntayrt but you really don't see how this post makes you look … ? Lots of us hate you fucking femcels because this shit bleeds out all over the board. 'Bu-bu-but everyone else is the problem!' >>10403
It's been that way for a long time. There's been attempts to clean it up, but the chemo hasn't been strong enough.
Still waiting on Raven's posts to get tagged. Hoping that is still going to happen.
I would also love to see these flagged.
Can we also get the Isa thread unlocked at the same time? It was inaccurately labelled as a vendetta thread at the time and tbh I'm still buttblasted about that. Many a shit thread has since been unlocked (e.g. pnp) so would be nice to see that one as well.
What is with anons misusing the spoiler?
Can images that don't need it be unspoilered, esp OP images like >>>/ot/425447
New guidelines for /ot/ based off complaints. >>>/ot/426018
Also a reminder that constant tranny and male accusations are
against the board rules. >>10421
Report it. If it's moralfaggotry or derailing it's up for grabs.
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Just want mods thoughts on the whole Jared/Holly/GG threads moving forward (since discussion isn't slowing down) – did it really need to be split off into a thread separate from GG?
Basically the "Waffle crew / DCA thread" ( >>>/snow/826388
) became the new GG thread. Now we have a thread where it's discussing the exact same milk as the last several GG threads were, but claiming its not a GG thread, but there's also no GG thread to continue on. Just seems messy and unnecessary. I know the GG themselves don't specifically have much milk these days, but everyone in the GG Cinematic Universe does, it just seemed like an easier designation to have them be the center of that venn diagram. If you're going to claim that Holly/Jared/Waffle Crew aren't associated with GG anymore, then there shouldn't be any talk of Ross or anyone else in that thread, but there is. It just seems stupid.>they're not associated with GG!>they need their own thread!>talks about the exact same people/milk as in the past 6 GG threads, including GG people>no new GG thread>?????
Even if there was a new GG thread, are we expected to talk about Ross/everyone else in the GGCU and not Holly? Do Mods think this makes sense? I think it might be helpful to just have a final say on this from Mods either way, since this has been discussed in the last few threads as well.
Wouldn't the Lainey rule apply to this? If the thing you're gonna say about Holly is directly about GG rather than the cheatingdrama then say it in the GG thread, and if the Ross thing you're gonna say is more about the Projared drama rather than GG, then say it in that thread.
Splitting topics to this extent doesn't work as well as just banning people that fight about whether a post is relevant imo but since the Lainey thing exists why not do it here too.
Lainey is totally different since a whole culture of tempfags, aka bored stay-at-home mums, sprung up around talking about how she looked like a foot and ruined the threads under the watch of the previous admin. All they had to do was make a Lainey thread anytime in the last year or so but no, they had to be forced because they're children about it.
The Holly/Jared subject has been shortlived so far and I'm going to go out on a limb and assume the new thread was made by someone who wanted to quarantine Holly conversation out of their precious GG threads for their own reasons. The problems with this "DCA" themed thread are that DCA is ostensibly over and the other couple doesn't have any public drama. It just seems like a bullshit construct to me.
The post you’re talking, I mostly used the red text to direct people to the new thread. Even if the new thread is shit, people were already moved onto the next one for a while. No point in having both being bumped.
If you see someone making crappy/lazy OPs please report and we will try to deal with it, I agree they have been very obnoxious lately. I think I’ll bring it up with staff to see how we can deal with it better.
Maybe it was remade because there is actual milk and it doesn't belong in artist salt or GC.
And why are you so angry about this? Are you one of the so-called summerfags?
i'm pretty sure it was remade because there is actual milk and it doesn't belong in artist salt or gc.
and why are you so annoyed about this? are you one of the so-called summerfags? we've had threads about specific artists in /ot/ who don't exactly fit into /snow/ without any problems, and lots of people want to talk about them.
Nevermind found it straight after posting.
Would be handy if site info was next to the rules in the menu bar
you can't just remake threads that get locked as you please.>>10449
nice backpedal on your obvious samefagging on /meta/. peep that typing style.
then instead of mini-modding, let the farmhands debate it. chances are they've seen the thread and are thinking about it now.
and can you read?>i got hasty
i post from tor, and if a post doesn't go through because of shitty connection, it's annoying having to retype it with punctuation. what kind of idiot would samefag with the exact same sentences?
I also like new admin but you're delusional if you think every single rule and decision makes sense. It's one admin and a few farmhands, they're human and not some goddly creatures who never make bad decisions and whose rules are always
to be followed. Just like laws should be a reflection of ethics and not regarded as ethical values themselves.
I think leaving things like this 100% up to mods' discretion without making room for user's input is just going to make the entire userbase unhappy in the long run.
If the bar has risen recently, and creepy fetish artists no longer count as milky, then at this rate, I feel like roughly 70% of our flakes and cows must be even lower on the grading scale.
To be sure: Can we have a hard definition for what constitutes as milk for convenience? Maybe a bullet point list so we can check each one off from now on before threads get made? If there is any doubt, anons can just reference the "tenets of milk" and provide their best examples for each one, and we can all live in peace.
i'm sorry your shitty thread got locked, but you miss my point, the issue here is being entitled and making the thread without discussing it with mods. no shit the rules aren't law or ethics, but bratty anons who don't even bother considering decisions and trying to come to agreements without taking matters into their own hands are what brings the site down.
you have to give to take, anon.
the issue is that the OP never discussed why the thread should be reinstated, and the mod told her where she could put it and there would have been no issue.
why not have a fetish artist thread if you're so set on this.
the entire thread to me just seems like some weird femcel raging that someone is drawing castrated men to be prettier than women but w/e. point is if you guys think the thread has merit, be cordial.
I was the OP, and I acknowledge that I should've asked permission after the lock. I didn't make the very first thread, but it being locked on the basis of it having no milk weirded me out, and other anons seemingly felt the same, so I acted on that, admittedly rashly. I would've just ignored it if it was one obvious vendetta thread being bumped by the same person over and over, but these artists were legitimately fucking weird, and multiple people agreed on that.>why not have a fetish artist thread if you're so set on this.
I'm not against this, but the emerging issue here seems to be that farmers and farmhands don't exactly have the same definition of "milk" anymore.
To be honest, this sort of thing is just going to keep happening until we have a set criteria on milk that we can all agree on. >the entire thread to me just seems like some weird femcel raging that someone is drawing castrated men to be prettier than women but w/e.
I strongly disagree with this, and I have a feeling I'm not the only one, but you have a right to your own opinion. I definitely don't like some threads on /w/, /pt/ or /snow/ myself, but since I know they have their own dedicated audiences who are enjoying the content, I don't get pissy about them. I just hide them. It's a good tool on all imageboards, and I encourage taking advantage of it whenever you have the chance.
I'm not even the OP of the threads, I just fiercly disagree with mods closing the thread in the first place. There wasnt even any place for discussion. Then, when some farmer came in here to complain about it, she got shut down with "you shouldnt have remade the thread" instead of with actual reasons for why the thread was shut down.
I'm generally against closing threads unless they're absolutely milkless and attract the worst kind of interactions.
absolutely, everything about those eunuch sisters is autistic and fascinating.
it's NOT about the art, it's NOT about being salty about the trannyism, it's about how telling the art is of their repressed fetishes / warped ideals.
- these threads were so much fun and I don't think polluting other threads with gallons of the milk of these same eunuch sisters is the right answer.
Maybe the lack of milk classification is because the cow isn't actually doing
anything IRL in a way that is amusing? Isn't the thread entirely about her shitty artwork and not necessarily about her narcissistic antics? There isn't drama there, and milk is pretty reliant on drama.
Or at least that's how I've managed to make sense of the mod decision to shut it down on account of "no milk". I can see art salt anons not wanting the content in that thread, so maybe just a new thread in /m/ specifically about this one artist? Idk.
Yeah, I guess it's technically
media, after all.
I haven't been banned or anything but I've noticed it too.
The summer has brought on a lot of people antagonizing other users for no reason just like every year but for some reason this year nothing has really been done about it meanwhile people get banned for the weirdest things that normally wouldn't warrant a ban.
It's sad only drama nowadays is considered milk, PT had no drama until anons poked the bear. She was just a strange person editing herself yellow and posting insensitive things. Tons of the people who made it on ED back then were these kinds of people.
Every other flake in snow is a camwhore or general attention whore asking for money online or on instagram. I guess our concept of milk nowadays is very different.
yea milk =/= drama. and it was more than just art, those girls were editing wikipedia articles to make their weird fetishes and pairings "real". im sure theres more messed up shit if we dug further.
they are a lot more entertaining than most of the current cows imo. most of the other threads are just old milk/anons nitpicking. the only milky recent event was margo being arrested, but since shes been detained thats dried up too.
I agree that drama shouldn't exclusively be considered milk, though it does seem to be the current definition for the mod team. I don't even think I'll post in the eunuch thread but it does deserve to have a place in a board somewhere
instead of being locked on sight. Just tell them a board to go to and let them have a thread of their own. What are you being stingy for?
There are also times where I'm almost certain I've gotten a ban for harmless comments moments after posting just because I must be replying to some farmhand with name off who thinks the opposite.
Seeing a lot of bans that look like they are just barring discussion outside of the popular opinion as well. Bans for obvious thread culture (pretty sure I saw a hi cow red text in one of the recent Mira threads lmao).
Also the choice to lock the new GG-projared thread just so we could finish the last of the remaining thread off was pants on head retarded. I get that newfags have been making threads prematurely but what a nitpick tier mod decision – just change the fucking make a new thread auto message to have better instructions.
These are just old tinyboard themes I made viewable. They've always existed.>>10427
We're pretty tough on cowtipping but waves of newfags come in swarms. >>10428>>10430
I'll try to have the thread more heavily moderated. Auto sage seems counterproductive.>>10435
I agree this doesn't make sense. As soon as the projared drama dies down the threads can be filled with GG or DCA milk.
The Separate thread has been locked and any GG and DCA discussion can go into >>>/snow/829410>>10437
I can change the automatic notification to 1150>>10438
Lainey was split off because her milk is repetitive and unless it directly relates to Greg it's just nitpicking. >>10450
There is a guide to posting on the rules page.>>10456
This is literally on the rules page and was previously discussed on /meta/.>>10459Board rules for /snow/
Cosplayers, j-vloggers, and lolitas belong in /w/. Make sure that the subject of a new thread is a cow, otherwise the thread is subject to deletion. Subjects must meet 3 out of the 5 following criteria:
-An unhealthy desire for attention
-Failure to accept criticism
-A lack of self awareness
-Delusions related to their skill or self importance
-No willingness to improve upon their behavior
All subjects must have:
-A documented history of bizarre behavior displayed online
-Some sort of public presence outside of private circles, groups or irc channels. Personal cows can go in the personal lolcows thread.
You can have a thread in /snow/ as long as it fits this. The subject or potential interest doesn't matter, not all of us obsess over camgirls, afterall.>>10466>>10468
This is a valid
complaint but don't samefag. It's embarrassing.>>10470
I'll check it out. Sorry about that.
>>10483>Failure to accept criticism
Tried to argue that men don't have stomach fat to defend one of their drawings of an MtF, and staunch refusal to accept anything in reality that challenges their weird pedophilic eunuch fantasies. >A lack of self awareness
They unironically believe everything they draw is accurate to history. >Delusions related to their skill or self importance
The fact that they felt themselves important and knowledgeable enough to edit Wikipedia for the sake of their eunuch fetish.>No willingness to improve upon their behavior
This is one of the most glaring issues with them. They respond with aggression, revisionist history (or outright misquoting religious texts like the Quaran) and irritation to anything that challenges their world view.
Many of their posts are linked to and translated by a Rusanon here >>>/ot/428413
to validate these claims, and the thing about stomach fat is mentioned in the first thread >>>/snow/828717
>A documented history of bizarre behavior displayed online
Holywarsoo has their posts, and they remain active on dA, IG, etc.>Some sort of public presence outside of private circles, groups or irc channels. Personal cows can go in the personal lolcows thread.
They also have public dA, IG, Twitter, etc accounts that they use.
are you the same farmer who bitched about the thread existing in /ot/ and then went to bitch over people posting about it in the art salt thread (like a farmhand told us to do) and keep mentionning nazi fetish fanart? It's obvious that there are a lot
of farmers interested in these cows but only one farmhand and maximum two posters bothered by it and yet we are the entitled ones…
The russiananon mentioned by >>10485
has managed to unearth a lot about these girls into English for us. Two homeschooled cultists of no fixed abode who feign being historians and linguists online, post racist art and edit history entries on wikipedia to bend to their fetishes… cmon. I don't follow art threads and I'm sure as hell not going to the gender crit thread. I want to read about these two freaks. They're definitely flakes, as it turns out.>>10482
Seconding this, it happened to me recently when I reported some derailing on both sides of an argument - hardly partial. I guess I reported a farmhand in there somwhere. It feels like the first flush of attention and improvement since the staff changeover has given way to something else.
do you just not want anyone discussing things you're not personally into? we were made
to take it there. in fact, we're still trying to get our own thread. this whole problem is a fuck-up on the farmhand's part, it being sent to the artist salt there was literally their command.
if you really want us out, you'll be on our side in asking for one of the threads to be unlocked so we can move there.
>but muh art fetish general
are you a mod? do you have any authority on what threads get locked? if not, then your suggestion was completely worthless and most likely would've just resulted in another lock for making a thread without permission and going against the farmhand's command to keep it in artist salt.
if you think differently, make a thread yourself with the eunuch sister's stuff and a rundown of their content as the OP, and see what happens. if it's accepted, the posters will inevitably go there, you can hide it and everyone will be happy. if it's not, accept it, make sure to take responsibility so no one can say "wow the eunuch sister posters are so dumb they just won't stop making threads without permission" and be quiet
It definitely is one of maybe three people (max) complaining non-stop about anybody discussing the dA users, both here and on /ot/. You can tell it's them because this is maybe the second time this one has claimed all the people who want to talk about this subject are "samefagging", with the exact same typing style, at that.
No wonder they're accusing everybody of samefagging. It's probably actually what they've
been up to all this time.
Mild tinfoil, but I feel like they're dead-set on derailing any calm discussion on this subject via infighting. They're probably doing it in hopes that the entire topic will be banned, perhaps because it makes them feel personally targeted somehow. So, to get back on point:
We've confirmed they have milk after an anon found and loosely translated their Russian social media posts, and enough people obviously want to talk about them. We've even gone over the hard criteria for milk. There's really no reason not to have a thread at this point.
The art salt thread anons who want to discuss YouTubers will be able to do so without having to wade through eunuch artist milk, and the eunuch artist posters will have their own space delegated to talk about this subject. Everybody would win hypothetically, so why not?
don't be a faggot, posts like >>>/ot/428788
are clearly derailing. telling someone they will be ignored is fucking derailing.
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this was a really odd ban. the anon was just describing the current situation for someone who asked. what's next, banning the anon who came back after a week and dared to question what the hell was going on? >inb4 i "suddenly" get accused of being that anon ban evading and receive a ban even though my comment history should be easy to check (then again i'm on tor)
between this and all the complaints about poorly thought out bans lately, what the hell is even going on with our farmhands? they were doing so well from the start>>10498
to be honest, any current issues in the artist salt thread will go away if one of the eunuch sisters threads is unlocked. it's that simple. no one has even been able to explain why they don't count as milky so far.
one persistent weirdo claiming anybody who wants to discuss them must totally actually be a "samefagging femcel m'dude why don't you care about kawaii nazis instead??" isn't a good argument at all
It's really starting to look like the only reason mods aren't listening is pure hubris and refusal to admit they could've made a lapse in judgment. I'm not saying that's the case, but it's just…not a good look.
No one is happy with this current set-up, and the solution is so easy.
This almost reminds me of when our original admin, Ian, threw a shitfit and locked/deleted a bunch of threads before he left the site. The only reason he gave was that he personally didn't care for them.
it's really obvious you tards are selfposting when half the posts are just gushing over the bootiful art and how kawaii the creators are.
just give it a rest no1curr about you.
>>10515>even targeted the anon who innocently asked about samefag redtexting, implicitly admitting that they're the same retard who's been samefagging about this for days
you really must be here just for the summer, congrats on learning a new word after babbling "samefag", "femcel" and "nazi" hundreds of times. unfortunately, no one is buying your dumb tinfoil. if these russian chicks were selfposting, not only would the english in all the posts be worse, they wouldn't even once criticize their shitty psuedo-history, but that's all anyone's been doing.
go and find something that's actually constructive to say, or take your autism elsewhere. the farmhand messed up, this always required its own thread, and anons will keep requesting one until it's addressed. cope.
are you? i mean seriously, you've been repeating the same thing so many times. everyone's pretty sick of it.
this thread is for mods to address complaints, not for you to attack people and tinfoil
You're an insufferable newfag. You can have your thread and you can watch it die down. Now stop speaking as the "vast majority" of users.>>10522>>10521
I'll personally take a look at this right now.
Speaking as someone who didn't post once about the eunuch sisters, I found these threads highly entertaining and the mods' decision to lock the threads and keep them in the art-salt thread completely retarded.
So what if the thread ends up dying down? Plenty of threads on /snow/ are semi-dead already.
the refusal to unlock it and fucking weird suggestions like 'take it to gender crit' spawned this. the staff salt is unbelievable. yes there is a degree of autism in the thread to start with but being so pissed you can't go back and unlock a mildly autistic thread about two strange girls when you have baylee, shayna, and pnp threads all still pumping along is really something.
I got a mod message about using the old thread but currently a new thread is most active, which one are staff wanting us to use?
there are like 3 out of 150 posts (in the latest thread) saying the art is beautiful, everyone else is just laughing at them.
Also have you seen how they write in english? Their english is almost broken and they have a very distinct typing style I have yet to see in their threads.
First time I've posted about it, since as my post states I've only now even looked at these threads.
My complaint isn't about this topic getting a thread, it's about the shitty mod-admin response to it that is another indication to the nitpicky/petty way they've been dealing with things.
Perhaps you need to check your spectrum before screeching autist since any mention of this eunuch topic apparently sends you into a fury, as evident by your lack of reading comprehension.
Admin, if you are going to call out this >>10524
person for being an insufferable newfag (which I am not doubting that they are), can you call out the other side with this obvious instigating, 'tism obsessed anon:>>10540>>10535>>10529
Should be fixed.
inb4 another grand conspiracy >>10539
I had no idea about the thread until 2 days after the fact my farmhands handled it in the way the saw fit. They can have their own thread in /snow/ given it meets the /snow/ guidelines.
The original thread was unlocked so what's the issue? >>10541
Perhaps because it's been the same 3-4 anons ban evading, samefagging, and sperging about it for days? >>10542
This is childish tattle-telling. If it was the same person they would be called out as I usually do on /meta/.>>10545
Summerfags get banned, and some ban evade. Threads don't need to be banned if it's a valid
topic, the shit anons just need to integrate or [get banned].
If admin is admitting that she had no idea of her farmhand's actions, and that they undid said actions because the thread does indeed meet /snow/ standards, then how is it derailing to come to the thread made for complaints to… complain?
You really don't see the irony in your own commentary, do you?>>10548>>10549
If the jist of the complaints about the Eunuch thread have been select samefagging and ban-evading, then why is everyone who believes the thread to be milky being called spergs and punished for it?
My original point stands that the farmhands reacted harshly and prematurely to a new topic, something that, spergy samefagging newfags or not, has the potential to hinder the growth/overall "milk"/"cows" of the site in the long run.
I have already expressed my feelings that farmhands are selectively banning based on personal bias/differing opinions to topics, and that complaining about Eunuch on here is considered spergy derailing, but screeching that those posters should be banned/are autists isn't, just makes it appear even more like a double standard at play. (ie. "they agree with me, so I'm letting it slide").
It can be repeated that we as regular users can't understand/see the back-end/inner workings of staff/site, but blindly believing that is exactly how this site went downhill at the hands of past Admin's. This entire incident is just a tiny drop in a bigger bucket.
I think you misunderstood admin. The bulk of the anons who believe
the Eunuch thread to be milky have been samefagging, ban-evading, and generally acting like children, not the other way around. About four anons were behind the vast majority of the sperging, one of which has been evading a permaban for weeks.
>>10549>been the same 3-4 anons
this is disregarding anyone who casually read the thread and added comment about the unusual banning of it here. I didn't ban evade, samefag or sperg and I can't be the only one.
>original thread was unlocked
that's not even the thread in use now. there's absolutely been some autism involved in the making of all the threads but since it was dictated that it go to some pretty odd destinations (gender crit?) can't you acknowledge staff reaction to this thread was ott at all. it was staff who triggered
at least some of the remaking of this harmlessly wierd thread, perhaps over an incorrectly perceived slight about gender politics or fetishes. look at what staff did and why.
I don't think I misunderstood at all. I understand there are ban evading, samefagging sperg anons that were for the thread.
But there are also anons and staff in this thread and the others related, calling everyone spergs and acting like we're unjustified in complaining that this subject is classic cow material. Unless you are saying I misunderstood and those are also ban evaders…
Which I sort of doubt since at the end of one of the eunuch threads some anon says "there must be something wrong with you tards considering you weren't supposed to make a new thread for this." And the farmhand quotes it to say "this".
Even if that thread shouldn't have been made and that anon wasn't wrong, in any other context that'd be pegged as infighting, derailing or mini modding. But instead it's a farmhand agreeing with it because it agrees with their opinion.
Is it really this beyond you guys to take a step back and realize the way this was handled was shitty regardless of samefags, shows an underlining issue with what at least one farm hand believes to be "proper action" and give a bit more transparency (like was originally promised)? That entire thread and this one could've been ban evading sperging samefags and it wouldn't change anything I just said…?
Not everyone is a sperg but the 4 anons who samefagged in here are.
There isn't anything wrong with the thread topic itself so I unlocked what I believed to be the original thread.
Either way continuously remaking threads (like repzilla) is generally bad practice.
By the way, we ban based off of patterns of behavior and the severity of an offense, not minor incidents. One snarky comment isn't going to equate to an anons whose post history consists of infighting.
Yeah the obsessive amount of trying to figure out where she lives and sharing it is too far. If you're crazy enough to doxx her then just say "she lives in a ___ type place now" and nothing else. Posting exact location is uncalled for.
I think TND's thread is full of crazy junkies like sex worker threads are full of jealous sex workers.
>>10563>>10564No street addresses, phone numbers, or places of employment,
*unless* the subject has published that information publicly on their social media.>How is her location or speculation about which exact sober living home she’s in any way milky?
I don't know, I don't have a fixation or hero complex.
I will say though, onion anons have done far worse. People will be autistic and do shit regardless. Obviously anything violating the rules will be removed.
EDIT: she essentially doxxed herself
I don't even protect farmers who doxx themselves.
it's different because there are also a lot of people interested in different areas of animal care in there, snakes, reptiles, rats etc. there isn't just one group, and there are a lot of anons with no idea about drugs or tattoos.
shay threads really just are a pack of rabid camgirls and their sympathisers.
I do think they are unlocked to punish people for not integrating or paying attention as you said. That has to be on purpose.
Leaving old threads unlocked just to get a few hits on a few careless anons is actually a bad call. The confusion it causes isn't worth getting to ban a couple anons here and there.
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Hurt feelings isn't a valid ban reason. If you want to ban for 'derailing' I understand, it's just a bit harder to justify that when there's only two posts been made with one being a misquote.
I didn't even know I was banned because I'd been gone the entire night. Don't make me cringe with this petty shit.
It wasn't for hurt feelings, you were sperging out at anons over belle delphine so you were given a 30 minute ban. >>10581>botch memes>ESL
None of those things have anything to do with the ban.
I'm not saying it had anything to do with that ban. The line where the reason for the ban usually goes is a botched meme that makes the farmhand sound like an infighter that was given some power.
Sorry but whoever you appointed sounds like an immature sperg themselves.
Not complaining about my ban, just asking to avoid making the same mistake in the future.
Where exactly do you draw the line with nitpicking in the Momokun thread? After all her weight/appearance/how she presents herself is kinda part of the 'joke'. I get that 'haha she fat' posts desperately need to be kept at bay, but there's the 'just calling her fat is no contribution' rule.
be considered nitpicking, too?
Again, not complaining, just wondering because it's really hard to tell what is and what isn't considered nitpicking.
Are you retarded? The post literally is just ‘lol she’s holding up her fat belly’. People have been banned for nitpicking for way more substantial posts.
And I wasn’t banned for just calling her fat so idek what you’re trying to tell me?
What the fuck is your problem?
Why does it trigger
you so much that I’m asking for a more detailed definition of what’s considered nitpicking?
NTA but I didn't see it as bitching or whatever the other anon is accusing you of. What needs to be acknowledged by the mod team is that there is pretty much no substance to momo other than making fun of her appearance so mocking her is actually pretty much on topic. It's not like Gurg, Margo, or Trasha where there's more to the cow. Some of the cows on this site are like momo, they're just ugly and annoying. The justification for momo being a cow is shit like "uhhhh sexual harassment" but really people are there to gawk at her disgusting appearance. There is fucking nothing
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Yes, you banned me a week for posting pic related, but hating on entire countries (or a whole continent) is somehow less bad and not racist/banworthy?
I mean there are things besides the sexual harrassment, like her inaccurate/low effort 'cosplays', her imaginary diet and workouts, the scamming by saying she's going to donate money… The milk is there, but isn't as frequent, so her obvious lies about her weight and the way she presents herself offer a lot more to talk about.
If it's too nitpicky for /pt/ maybe moving it to /snow/ would be an option?
Well if we had clear info like>laughing about that she's gripping her fupa to show her vag is okay>talking about her pudgy face or how her surgeries have gone to waste isn't
(even though that still seems kinda arbitrary) it wouldn't be so hard to stick to the rules.
But either way, there's a bunch of people who apparently do enjoy talking about this kind of thing (to some extent) and it's not up to you to decide who gets banned for what.
You're both equally spergy to outsiders and that thread was there before /m/ even existed, newfag. "Anime critical" discussion could just be moved back into the normal anime thread anyways, it's all the same autistic weebs.
I've never posted in either thread before you accuse me of being an anti animufag.
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>Summerfags are too dumb to realise if their posts start with "I.." or "As a professional/diagnosed Y I can…" It's blog posting and to instead use third person. Hint : no one cares about your personal experience as a professional retard or about you performing lobotomy n yourself to become one. Just use third person, why would you even want to admit that shit?
>Summerfags are too dumb to realise they don't need to comment on everything.
>Summerfags are too dumb to realise sageing a post doesn't allow breaking rules.
>Summerfags are too self centered and think mods target them because they get banned a lot, instead of realising there's probably a handful of staff and tens of thousands of visitors daily on this site. Instead, it must be farmhand ran farm surveillance targeting poor diagnosed professional retard from reddit/tumblr/twitter
>Summerfags are so dumb that they think all bans are redtexted, not because that particular post got reported a lot.
>Summerfags are so dumb, they think this is like Reddit where you'll get asspats for sharing your retarded idea.
Summerfags will probably think this doesn't apply to them. It does.
Your personal opinion or experience * doesn't matter " when it comes to cows, unless you intend to become one. If that's the case, good luck.
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Okay seriously can someone explain to me how re-posting an already posted picture with just an insult is neither nitpicking nor ‘no contribution’?
I think all the junkie blogging, well it's a pita but she didn't relapse so that's chilled out, I've noticed. To me it's like when the snakefags post the obesity chart for the umpteenth time, or remember the cat bowl sperg anon from the old threads? Right now I'm genuinely concerned about the summerfag "let's dox everyone and everything reee it's public information" attitude in there. We're minutes or hours away from someone posting her sober living address and for no good reason at all.>>10643
I don't think she'll be getting properly sober for a long while, since her recovery's already a mess. If you don't like the storyline it doesn't mean she's due for a downgrade. Taylor belongs in /pt/, she's a huge cow who just bought a gun with the help of a felon then stored it illegally to protect herself from… lolcow. Cmon.
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How fitting, just should have scroll a bit.>>10635
Now that Kelly's thread is active again, can Admin and Farmhands look out for her selfposting?>>10645
We wouldn't have been aware of half of her lies if we hadn't known program she was enrolled in.
Can we stop with locking new threads before the previous one hits 1200? It leads to shit threads. If someone makes a new one after 1100 posts, someone competent has time to update it and do it correctly. If we have to wait until 1200 then someone just scrambles to do it asap and it ends up as a shit thread.
This is the second Holly/Projared thread with an absolute shit thread, where OP has just copied and pasted the previous thread's OP word for word, and not updated any of the info, even though there's been a TON of new milk since the last one and used a terrible thread pic. They didn't even link the correct previous thread. Now the conversation is continuing, and the new thread is a mess. I'd offer to make the new thread, but there's no time to sit down and catch up on all the entire thread's last milk. The current one is >>>/snow/841232
and the one you previously had to lock for being a shit OP was >>>/snow/836002
Again, this has only started happening since you've stopped us from making new threads after 1100.
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Except that's not what we were told? We were specifically told to not make new threads until the last one was full. And because of that it seems like anyone decent too afraid to make the thread before that, even if they have all the new info locked and loaded ready to go past 1100. Then they miss the very specific >1200 window. This thread in particular basically already had the entire new OP written up (and posted) and multiple votes for new OP pics, and the newfag just ignored all of that to copy and paste the old OP and use literally the 2nd pic that comes up when you google "projared".
What happened with pic related was someone made a (competent) thread a good bit after 1100, people went over to the new thread and continued the convo there, that thread then got locked and we got sent back to the old thread to restart the conversation we were having on the new thread for like, <50 posts or whatever and THEN we could have the new one unlocked to then have to restart the conversation again over there. If we now have to wait until 1200, people go until it gets totally locked, then some newfag creates a new thread, and then that new thread is never actually linked in the old thread, because it's already been maxed out to the point where no one else can post.
For what purpose? I don't understand what difference it makes? I could see it being an issue if it was being done at like, 900-1000 or if it was a thread that was moving at a glacial pace past 1100 with no new milk, but the Jared/Holly threads are constantly moving? It just makes everything a giant mess. We've already had enough of an issue keeping the threads linear with people always trying to change the topic, why add this issue on top of it? If we keep having to remake the shit threads or restart the conversation over and over again perfectly good milk just falls through the cracks.
NTA, but I think it's that he's actually documented as personally harassing multiple women and children IRL, taken them to court, and ruined several of their careers for not pandering to his ball-waxing fetish that sets him apart.
I do agree the zoophiles belonged in /pt/, now that you mention it, but it's probably too late for that now.
Because mods ARE aware of how much of a cow he is. He isn't JUST a troon like other anon said, he does cow behaviour that goes beyond "muh transbian"
The rules haven't changed, he just actually belongs in /pt/
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Is the farmhand in charge of the Belle thread ok????
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This post wasn't off topic or derailing so why was it banned. It was even saged. This is very frustrating
I came to /meta to find a thanks thread for putting Yaniv in the /pt. Well done mods, this cow gives full cream milk.
To anyone else to doesn't understand why he's there should maybe go read the KF thread for old milk. This guy is a horrorshow and 100% deserves to be in the /pt.
and again my question was more for the mods, since it seems that they knew the status already. I was just wondering what they
had to say about these situations, where cows are /pt/ material because of their status elsewhere, and how that's determined etc.
I’m assuming we have new mods on the team who are obnoxiously trigger
happy because I’m noticing I’ll get banned for something for one day, then after that ban I’ll be banned for some other comment for three days, then banned for something else for one day and it’s like… can you relax? Just give a warning instead or maybe bundle them? The rules are so random. I’ve been banned for things others were allowed to post and then avoided banning even when I was purposely being a shithead. Makes me not want to come here as much though I doubt the mods care
Yaniv is not a relatively new cow, he just hasn't had an active thread on here >>10689
There are new no mods or janitors. The Belle Delphine thread is really just that bad.>>10687
Please appeal or email me at firstname.lastname@example.org if this is happening so I can look into the post and mods involved
Don't insult me and pretend your samefagging isn't obvious. >>10687>>10693
>an actual employer would sack them immediately for such despicable behaviour.
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this is the funniest post in this thread>an actual employer would sack them immediately for such despicable behaviour.>they do it for free
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>>10697>thinking Farmhands have a time limit for banning a post
You're too autistic for Lolcow, congrats.
(yes, samefag herp derp)>>10699
(A continuation, my ban expired but I'm now getting banned for evasion. The ban has expired ffs)
These are my only posts, yes one is a samefag I admit. The others are not me. Are you really this stupid? I don't know if people pretending to be me to shit stir or genuinely have the same complaint and just so happen to type in the same style which doesn't help but those are my only posts. I post in lots of threads but only ever get banned in the Shay thread, and why is that?(Ban evasion)
Just leave for a bit, you won't win.
I've literally been banned because the retarded moderation misinterpreted what I posted or thought I was a scrote (the latter which gets appealed but is annoying nonetheless).
Just accept that the bitches can do whatever they want with impunity and lay low. It's too much effort to fight stupid shit and hopefully the next cycle won't be so retarded. It's been this way for forever.
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This can't be real, lmao
why don't they just put the belle thread on autosage so everyone can jerk off over there and mods can stop chimping out and banning for nothing
if its so useless then why keep it up
"Trans women ARE women"
that's just your personal opinion, if you get so triggered
by people giving their non sjw opinions, you should leave.
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Looks like since tumblr is dying a slow death, trannies and sjws are fleeing and trying to infect new places.
Fuck this shit lmao
Don't really agree with this either if the sperging isn't leaking out of the thread in question to a massive degree. Almost all cows/flakes end up with spergs; locking the thread/subject over that would leave the entire site bare.
This also punishes users who are not part of the sperg and just enjoy following the petty drama, as well as promotes the idea that you can have your thread removed as long as you get enough WKs to come be problemic enough for you.
Historically I can't think of a flake or cow in snow or pt your proposed solution wouldn't have left a locked thread to.
Also think it'll just make the remaining non spergs and contributing anons leave or discourage quality posts. No point in adding to the discussion when the actions of a few loud anons can have the entire thing taken away because they aren't adhering to punishment. And I have no doubts most of those spergs are more persistent and planning to stick around past thread lock than the average poster.
I did say if the moderation isn't working, aka there is an overwhelming amount of ban evading spergs and the thread is unsalvageable. I was not saying remove threads with any
amount of spergs…
Anachan General is now an official trash fire. Idk if it's worth reporting any one thing now, I know some of it's redtexted but the derailing rages on. >>10750
Ugh yes, I've reported a lot of those stan twitter screencap posts, no redtext but they've stopped so I'm assuming bans happened?
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Can mods explain the logic of why "Cosplay & Convention General" doesn't belong in /w/? One anon (I assume the one who reported it needing to be moved) said /w/ was only for cows but the board info says>the following topics and cows:>Cosplay or costhots>Lolita>drama related to any individual or group with an obsession with Japanese culture or a particular trend
Topics of discussion specified include>Regional Conventions/Cows/Dramu>Convention Horror Stories>Seagull Nostalgia/Vintage Milk
& there's other community/general threads that are still there>Western Vocaloid Community>Animecore / Early Web Communities>Gaijin Gyaru>Lolita Lolcows>Net-idol/Dance Cover Groups Drama General
It meets every one of the criteria listed above but it still got moved to /g/ immediately. The only criteria it vaguely fits for /g/ is "girly" and "fashion", both of which seem like a stretch/are subjective. Gyaru and Lolita fit those criteria better, even. The board is named "vloggers, lolita, cosplay
"…but a Cosplay thread doesn't belong there? Not trying to criticize or anything but I made sure to read all of the rules and info for the board before creating it, so I'm just trying to understand where I went wrong. Should the board rules/info be changed maybe then, if it is only for cows and not for other drama? I tried to make it as general as possible so the Costhot thread wouldn't get clogged with non-thot cosplay drama/personal cows. It's just very confusing.
Because those generals are not to discuss and talk about your favorite things in regards to those topics and make friends, but to laugh at and mock their participants.
/g/ is for conversation on fashion, stuff like friend finder generals, health/beauty, relationship stuff, personal hobbies, etc.
It had questions like "What's your dream cosplay?" or "What cons are you going to?", which isn't really drama-related, and since it involves doing stuff IRL (going to conventions), /m/ might not be the best fit either. A regional cows, seagull nostalgia/milk and/or con horror thread alone might have worked for /w/, though. It's just that other, personal blog sort of stuff was added in.
It's kind of regrettable that the gifs/images died when the thread was moved, but the move itself made sense IMO.
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>>10762>/w/ is a drama board and not a general bathroom talk board
It literally doesn't say that anywhere though, not in the board rules or the board info. It says "TOPICS and cows [relating to cosplay]" not "cows only" or "drama only". You're just making up rules that don't exist. What about Cosplay is bathroom talk? There's drama in cosplay that doesn't have to do with costhots, so where are we supposed to discuss it? Because it would derailing/ot to do it in the costhot thread.>>10765>but to laugh at and mock their participants
again>Regional Conventions/Cows/Dramu>Convention Horror Stories>Seagull Nostalgia/Vintage Milk
Also the other "Drama General" threads do talk about general stuff. You can't discuss multiple cows in that community without discussing/understanding the community overall. You can't talk about Regional Drama without acknowledging regional conventions. You can't talk about Con Horror Stories, unless you talk about conventions in general. You can't talk about Vintage Milk unless you're talking about the community itself. That's why those other points are included in the op. None of these threads exists in a vacuum.>/g/ is for conversation on fashion, stuff like friend finder generals, health/beauty, relationship stuff, personal hobbies, etc.
It doesn't meet any of those criteria. No where on /g/ does it say it's a board for personal hobbies. If cosplay met any of that criteria, then why have a whole separate board for it in the first place? /w/ says it's for "cosplay, lolita, or any group with an obsession with Japanese culture".>>10765>it should go in /g/>>10767>it should go in /m/>>10770>it should go in /ot/
Again….how is the simplest/most correct solution not "Put the Cosplay thread on the Cosplay board"? Why is the board called "Cosplay" if we can't talk about cosplay?
I was excited when we got a Cosplay board because I thought it'd be like /cgl/ again (back when /cgl/ was fun and not dead). Even the pinned post on there makes it seem like that's what it's supposed to be? Esp if the board is called cosplay and lolita, and the pinned post basically mirrors /cgl/'s. I don't understand why cosplay would be ot there.>>10770>I personally think that "con drama" sounds like an /ot/ board, simply because not all cons are anime cons.
This may be the stupidest thing I've read in a long time. What other type of conventions would we be talking about on this website? Business conventions?
>>10778>NTA but uhm… gaming and comic book conventions do exist and people go there in cosplay …?
Again, one of the stupidest things I've read. If people go to them in cosplay, why wouldn't they fall under the category of "Conventions & Cosplay"? The discussion was about conventions where people cosplay >>10770
op was the only one who ever even mentioned "anime". Conventions it a catch-all term.
You must have been lost when we were discussing /w/'s existence. Look at the older /meta/ threads talking about it.
It was always meant to be a drama board. No one wants to dig through "Post your favorite cosplay" or "Dress up game general" stuff when they're trying to navigate to a thread about an actual cow or flake. That kind of thing has its place. Otherwise, /snow/ could just become /ot/ with no problem.
Personal blogging and circlejerking doesn't mix with drama. If it's this dire, just make your thread in CC, ffs.
You must have been lost when we were discussing /w/'s existence. Look at the older /meta/ threads talking about it. And like, did you even read:Threads not dedicated to drama can go to /ot/ for discussion.
It's right there. No one would have told you to fuck off to /w/ if you had just made the thread in /ot/ or /m/, because that's ostensibly where something like that belongs.
It was always meant to be a drama board. No one wants to dig through "Post your favorite cosplay" or "Dress up game general" stuff when they're trying to navigate to a thread about an actual cow or flake. That kind of thing has its place. Otherwise, /snow/ could just become /ot/ with no problem.
Personal blogging and circlejerking doesn't mix with drama. If it's this dire, just make your thread in CC, ffs.
>>10782>>10781>>10783>And like, did you even read
Did you read the rest of the pinned post where it says "topics" and "cosplay" or did you just look at one sentence there at the very bottom?
>Threads not dedicated to drama can go to /ot/ for discussion.
But it is about drama and it didn't go to /ot/ so this is irrelevant on all fronts.
>You must have been lost when we were discussing /w/'s existence. Look at the older /meta/ threads talking about it.
So you're saying we shouldn't follow the rules written by mods on the board rules page or the pinned post of the board itself, but the actual "secret menu" rules are the ones a bunch of anons said months ago before the board even existed? Got it, thanks for clearing that up. I guess I'll report any /w/ questions directly to you in the future and not mods.
>No one wants to dig through "Post your favorite cosplay" or "Dress up game general" stuff
I don't even know what kind of sperging you're doing here. Do you think people are going to go into a thread about a cow and go "THIS IS MY FAV COSPLAY"? "Dress up game general" has nothing to do with what we're talking about, and already has a thread in /m/ so…..another "irrelevant on all fronts" thing.
>when they're trying to navigate to a thread about an actual cow or flake.
Did you know there's a catalogue? Where you can just find the board you're looking for? Did you know you can just hide boards you don't want to see instead of throwing a full blown temper tantrum when your feelings get hurt by other people enjoying something that isn't exclusively what you enjoy? Did you know not everything's about you?
>>10788>Did you read the rest of the pinned post where it says "topics" and "cosplay" or did you just look at one sentence there at the very bottom?
"Topics" and "cosplay" would relate directly to drama, not circlejerking. Reading comprehension.
>But it is about drama and it didn't go to /ot/ so this is irrelevant on all fronts.
Evidently not. It literally started with things unrelated to drama. Just make separate threads.
>So you're saying we shouldn't follow the rules written by mods on the board rules page or the pinned post of the board itself,
You clearly didn't do either of those things, otherwise you wouldn't have missed that very obvious part I highlighted, so I don't know why you're arguing from this standpoint of "I did everything right and you're just being MEAN".
>I don't even know what kind of sperging you're doing here. Do you think people are going to go into a thread about a cow and go "THIS IS MY FAV COSPLAY"? "Dress up game general" has nothing to do with what we're talking about, and already has a thread in /m/ so…..another "irrelevant on all fronts" thing.
Again, reading comprehension. It relates directly to you wanting /w/ to be full of non-drama content all because you couldn't read. "This is my fav cosplay" is literally along the lines one of the very first topics in your thread ("dream cosplay"). The second is linked to the fact that the dress up game general would typically fall under "weeb shit".
>Did you know there's a catalogue?
That's no excuse to flood a board with a very specific purpose with unrelated shit.
It's ironic that you'd accuse me of throwing a temper tantrum and add on all this stuff about "feelings" just because I explained why your thread was moved. It wasn't even deleted, and you weren't banned. It was just moved
for not fitting the actual purpose of the board, which flew over your head, and now you're here yelling and complaining that you followed the rules (which you didn't), and that even if you did not, the rules should be changed for your sake when we already have like three other boards which easily would've accommodated this very same thread.
>Did you know not everything's about you?
This is the main thing you should've asked yourself before coming here to piss and moan.
The mods just weren't in the wrong here, sorry. I promise you can and will recover from this traumatic event.
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ntayrt but holy shit do you need to calm down. >That's no excuse to flood a board with a very specific purpose with unrelated shit. >"flooding" the cosplay board with one single thread about cosplay
We're literally talking about one
thread among dozens on a board…a board about cosplay. If it hurts your butt that much to have to look at one
thread where people are talking about something you don't want to talk about just hide it fam just don't look at it's not that deep lmao. Never seen autism like this in my life. I'm so sorry your parents didn't prepare you for a world that doesn't revolve around you.
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Look, you can call me "butthurt" or project as much as you want, but that won't change the very basic fact that boards have specific purposes. Threads are moved if they don't fit that. /w/ is not just a general board, and a simple look at the threads in it or at the sticky would've gleamed that. Nowhere does it say "Discuss your dream cosplays and cons you're going to attend". You misread the rules or misinterpreted it that way? That's fine. Mistakes happen. Just put the thread somewhere more fitting. It is what it is. No one was harmed by this.
It's not about me or what I want, as I'm not the admin. I'm just quoting the rules that you seem to have missed.
Deal with it. Or, keep getting mad at farmhands for doing their jobs, I guess.
NTA, but it shows that even though the rules are vague, those of us who aren't new or inattentive still understood board culture well enough to know what does and doesn't belong.
If you can't relate, that's your problem, not the site's, and complaints about that would actually go in the dumbass shit thread.
it's not your decision what goes ITT. lol become a mod if you want to bitch about what you deem valid
. also if you look at some of the threads on /w/ they are a fucking mess anyway. nothing worth protecting.
Newfag confirmed. No one's bitching but you.>nothing worth protecting
Then find another site, lmao.
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>>10800>Ok pwincess, go ahead and wait to speak to the manager.
Christ YES that's what we're trying to do but you won't shut the fuck up. That's literally what this thread is for, are you lost? Why the fuck would we listen to you? You literally don't have any authority on anything, you're just an anon shitting your pants over one singular thread. You're attempting to mini-mod the entire concept of a board with your own butthurt, over ONE thread. You're doing the equivalent of standing at the customer service desk of a Staples and screaming at customers who are trying to ask an employee if they sell staples, about how having one box of staples at a store named Staples is FLOODING THE STORE WITH STAPLES and NOT WHAT THE STORE IS ABOUT. Are you such a newfag that you not know how any of this works? Or are you just so self obsessed that you think every single interaction on this site HAS to revolve around you and your opinions?
This ties with >>10708
for my favorite tantrums in this thread.
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this isn't my post but fucking really? this is a known bug when the site goes down. wtf?
What‘s up with >>>/g/84480
slowly becoming an anachan circlejerk?
Is that really necessary?
Amazing how many times this has to be brought up and yet it repeatedly gets glossed over with things like "you guys just don't see what the mods do".
Unfortunately with how absolutely shitty the site got under the reign of the past admin, anything current admin+mods do right now is an upgrade, including this.
i disagree, new admin and new mods are definitely worse. maybe not worse then when old admin was in the process of jumping ship, but new admin hasn't changed anything for the better. when shit like >>10824
happens and no one acknowledges a fuck up and just silently deletes/unbans, that's a bad system.
be embarrassed and get called out. mods do this for free so without accountability they have no incentive to fix anything. it's not like them getting "fired" means anything.
The problem is Miranda is not the only retard in the thread now. It used to be an easy dynamic between non-retarded posters and Miranda, but now that there are two or more retards discoursing in there, it's wall to wall retardation.
Alkanadiya Hellweek, pls.
I've been using lolcow since the days of its inception and for the past few years have really found myself falling out of love with the site, largely due to how it's run. If there are any other long term users left out there, am I alone or does anyone else feel this way?
1. I feel like, while I think the pink pill type threads where originally meant to act as containment threads, they're in reality seeming to attract a specific type of new member. The frequent use of words like 'scrot' or 'handmaiden', and derailing into radfem discourse just feels excessive and annoying. I'm not saying the points being made aren't important topics or good points, i'm not trying to make a comment on the actual content of them at all, but it's similar to race-related derailing. While the topic may be important, it's no less annoying. Around 2015/2016, threads would frequently dissolve into debates about race relations until a ban was put on unrelated race related discussion - I feel like a similar thing should be done to topics regarding radical feminism, and I think there should be a discussion of how many people actually want the pink pill type threads on the board. I feel like it may work better to just have one of this type of thread, we currently have: pink pill thread (number 26), gender critical, radical feminism, friending a troon, which all really heavily overlap. I feel like having loads of boards about pretty much the same topic isn't serving the site well.
2. I also feel like the splitting of boards is quite counterintuitive and confusing. There is no real distinction between threads that belong on /ot/ and /g/, and /m/was a board that overwhelmingly people did not want, which overlaps a lot with /ot/. I feel like spreading it out so much slows down the site traffic and it would make more sense to shrink the number of boards and limit repetitive threads.
I think having /w/ be a separate board is a really strange and unnecessary decision considering the nature of the site. Weebs and cows/snowflakes are obviously not mutually exclusive so I don't understand why they are a distinct category. The point of the site was weeb type cows so if anything it should be other variations of cows that have a separate board. I feel like /snow/ and /pt/ being now mostly full of just youtubers really changed the audience and feel of the site.
This is small but I also think it's strange that [ot/g/m] appears first, in front of [pt/snow/w] when the latter is supposed to be the main topic of the site, I think it would make more sense to have it the other way round but idk if it will actually make a difference to anything
3. I also feel like there is a huge problem with over moderation, and that moderation seems to be quite inconsistent. Things like 'hi cow' or 'underated post', while i get contribute nothing and are annoying, really don't happen that frequently and were not banned in the early years of lolcow - do people really feel like this rule has improved the quality of this site? I find the red text and banning over these small mistakes more annoying than the actual posts themselves and only deter new users and traffic from the site. However, things like blogposting for example is actually much more derailing and is currently out of control across the board and for some reason doesn't appear to be being dealt with by mods?
I also don't enjoy the concept of banned threads. For example the Anisa thread (and a few years back the Berry thread), are not threads I had any interest in, but I feel objectively were no different in ~quality~ than the majority of threads in this board. I feel like there was never really a real reason given for them being banned, and that the small (if any) benefit in banning them is hugely outweighed by the negative precedent that even having banned threads (on cows) sets. It just goes against the entire ethos of the 'anything goes' nature that the site originally had.
There's more things, but this is already so long…. but does anyone else feel like this?
I've been saying this for a while, but users who have only been here for the past 2 years whine about "newfags". I hate all the radfem/pinkpill shit now because while those users are generally fine, the newfag users that come for those threads are awful little shitbags that never shut the fuck up. you can definitely tell who is who, and it's those users that make the pinkpill threads so lame with their sperging. I also agree about the weebshit whining.I feel that too many users on the site are quick to brush off it's roots as if anything they don't like should suddenly stop existing.
All in all I think the major shift is
the new userbase, but I guess that's just how the site is going. Sometimes I go on /cgl/ but it's a fucking hugbox hellhole by now and there is nothing to do. I've really seen a big shift in just the past year or 2 that's actually noticeable and it's just people who haven't been here that long that don't notice it.It almost makes me miss Regina and that era
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Stop it, Janny.
This so much.
I‘m at a point that I don’t even want to spend time on /ot/ anymore because it‘s gotten such a ‘if you don’t want to kill every man you’ve ever talked to you cater to the patriarchy and are part of the problem’-mentality that it makes me feel guilty for having a boyfriend or even interacting with men in a non-hostile way.
I’m all for radical feminism and hating men and the patriarchy but damn, there are
other things in life.
And /g/ is slowly starting to go into the same direction.
NTA but I doubt anon meant admin herself is banning people. Now stop with the OT nitpicking.>>10868
Found the newfag.>>10871
I agree with all this. I am just so shocked at how much the site changed in a short time.
I also wish that since we have /snow/ and /w/ that someone fucking moves the threads. We have holly in /snow/ but she claims to draw anime, and that star wars cosplayer should be in /snow/ because cosplay isn't automatically weebshit. I am also extremely weirded out by the general hostility towards other women on the board, which is lightly masked by claims of feminism. Calling someone a "handmaiden" or "pick me" doesn't seem very feminist. I have seen those terms used to try and kill discussion too, or when anons respond with "imagine defending men" to any comment that's not talking about any man negatively.
Also anons who use terms like "scrote" or "handmaiden" automatically sound like unintelligent men whining about "cunts" and "normies", just saying.
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Why?? This thread is a garbage fire most of the time without the mods banning people for having basic conversations. And that's what this was, blogposting is allowed on /ot/. Admin get your weeb ass out of akiba for 5 minutes and hire some mods who aren't 5 years old.
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The Onision threads were really a turn for the worst. I also miss the golden era and I miss being able to be more nitpicky.>>10884
It wasn't my ban but I just cringed at the weird ban reason.
not the oldest user here but i get the sentiment. ive been on lolcow for 5 years, there is a difference no doubt. but at some point its tiring to entertain bullshit posts. nitpicking isnt furthering conversation. its beating a dead horse and fucking annoying. people come in thinking that they have new insight as to why cow is a narc because of insert whatever bloggy reason they think is new and never been stated before. why is it so important that a thread has a new post every two minutes? i would rather something die down until there is new and interesting stuff that comes up.
it absolutely can be lighthearted but idiots are shitting up the place because they feel their personal insight will change the way people view someone and will cowtip til the sun comes up just for a screenshot. seeing someone bitch about being silenced because they believe that their personal experience that coincides with a cow makes them special and exempt from blogging is laughable. trash attracts trash
It's a bad ban imo as well. Blogging isn't an issue on /ot/…>>10890
I'd agree to an extent but then there's mentally ill anons who wanna zoom in on Onion's pores for no reason (we all know he has bad skin) or try to measure his dick size through sweatpants. Ultimately it might be better to have a slower thread than have posts like that populating the discussion.
No. I'd rather have a slow site than a site full of speds who scream about Momokun's "boob vein". It attracts an audience of people who don't have patience for more material and end up getting obsessed with the cow, becoming cows themselves. Most normal people don't want to scroll through 50 "Oh my god she's such a fat fuck look at her drinking that coke in the IG story LMAO" replies, the threads shouldn't be your fucking diary for unfiltered thoughts. I don't know why anyone would WANT nitpicking to be allowed because it's so stupid, like do you really want to see replies whining about someone's ribcage shape or whatever skinwalking autism has been going on in the Dakota thread for the past 5 years? It's not "funny and lighthearted", it's cringeworthy and annoying.>>10889
The people complaining about their bans most likely deserve it, I've been posting here for 5 years and I've never been banned.
>>10903> or have some issue with or suggestion for site content, you should use this thread.
They are. Also this >>10904
. You sure seem like you got your feefees hurt, sorry for being a big mean bully.
So you want admin to start banning certain insults on an image board where women regularly rip other women apart,, because they're not feminist enough?
>You sure seem like you got your feefees hurt
So do you, you sound like you got your feefees hurt so bad after being called a gender based insult/"scrote" that you ran to meta to try and get those words banned sitewide lmfao. Humiliating.
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the Heather Sparkles thread is at it again. this thread seems to get flooded with selfposters almost daily.
I just think that time can't come back since the type of new users that have come in that have no chill at all, and the number of them. Also the cows are posting us to social media pretty often now and attracting throngs of newfags.
Anyway to join in with the other here, I can't stress enough how important it is to purge anyone unironically using the terms scrot, handmaiden, or pick me.
>>10879>Calling someone a "handmaiden" or "pick me" doesn't seem very feminist.
Criticizing behaviors with a label isn't oppressive or anti-feminist.
I'm not a "raging feminist" but even I can identify shitty men and the desperate women who pander to them. Like this anon said >>10912
why do female-dominated sites always have to be tone policed like this? We're not on here because we're polite delicate ladies who care about not offending anyone, we're here for dirty tea.
can't even make a joke about these words without all the seriousposters coming out. good going anons.>>10929
redtext is the obvious solution.
>calls for banning "handmaiden" and "scrote">refers to GC and radfem anons as "you freaks"
Were "handmaiden" and "scrote" used anywhere prior to five years ago?>>10939
Back in the day did you have to walk uphill in the snow both ways to post?
The internet and its culture are, by design, ever rapidly changing and evolving. Witness the internet nostalgia thread. People have been decrying changes in internet culture since the advent of trolls and the invasion of AOHell normies on Usenet in the late 90s.
Why would it go in /manure/? I don't see any reason why it wouldn't belong in /ot/ (or /b/ in this case), as it's general discussion. I'm a long-time user, and I genuinely don't see the problem. Just hide the thread if it triggers
you so much. Personally, I hate the dog hate thread, so I hid the shit and have since moved on.
I feel like the complaints about being called a scrote or handmaiden are pretty overblown, too. Can anyone even link to (or describe with full context) instances where it was actually unfairly used? From what I've seen and experienced, you have to be on some level of bullshit to be accused of being a man or handmaiden.
Anachan and scrote posting still happens, everyone ignores them just fine so maybe try the same and or try reddit. Ban on things like racebaiting nitpicking is because it clogs up threads by being repetitive while never going anywhere, not cuz they hurt feelings and “ruin experience”.
Like this place was made by a bunch of weebs and now it has substantial anti anime sentiment, you don’t see the weebs crying about it as hard as you cry about evil radfems. It’s almost as if we’re not a hive mind. Im not on anonymous imageboard to be nonoffensive apolitical and tone policed tf
You seem to be new to imageboards, maybe try /b/ on 4chan if you think they're "anything goes" lol. We still have rules bb. Anachans and robots got banned because they're fucking annoying
and ruin threads, radfem shit is the new version of that. I always find it funny when 2 or 3 people are complaining about something and then one
anon comes in to say that literally no one complains about it and it doesn't happen. It's always the opposite.
>>10926>why do female-dominated sites always have to be tone policed like this?
stop using shitty buzzwords as insults and maybe they wouldn't? also if you think that male dominated sites don't do this you're fucking retarded. why do all the people who defend annoying crap seem to think that this only happens it's some kind of censorship on women? it wouldn't matter if you were a man or woman the action
is the problem, no matter who's doing it.
I know that. I think it would be a hell of a lot more noticeable if 50%< of the people posting were banned, even if not every ban is redtexted.
I myself didn’t post anything different than other anons and wasn’t banned either.
They’re being incredibly inconsistent and that’s what’s pissing me off. Either ban everyone equally or don’t at all. Picking a few ones and acting like they’re fixing the problem won’t help. Especially with what >>10934
said it makes it impossible to tell what is and isn’t considered nitpicking.
Idk if it was you but whoever raised the point that it's attracting a certain type of user is correct. Even Admin admitted they're aware of the radfem sperg invasion upthread. Redtext (->abusive
) and diligent banning for derailment should sort it out imo but this tiki torch tier FREEDOM OF SPEECH argument about chan culture ain't it.
Thing is, not only do the stupid insults attract spergs, but they also cause derailment bc now you have several anons arguing about whether someone is a scrote or handmaiden when none of that relates to the thread topic. Just on that basis, punishing the buzzwords in some way makes sense.
exactly this. also notice the "muh free speech" anons go quiet about shit they don't like such as nitpicking or anachan posting. shouldn't everyone
have free speech?
I agree with both of you. I think that the FREE SPEECH DONUT SENSOR ME! anons are just the spergs who want to derail and try to shut out conversation, which means it's only free speech for them.
Another thing I've noticed is that more and more anons are getting called men for being a little harsh or not going with the status quo opinion. Not necessarily myself, but often I'll see anons being called scrotes for calling others out for being stupid. it's not a good look.
I've noticed a lot of derailment and unnecessarily harsh edgelord comments too. I remember Lolcow when it was fairly new and it wasn't perfect cause the race bait was annoying but slowly the admins got rid of the race rage monsters and it was pretty good for five minutes. Then back to back to back each phase has been a bit of a mess with bouts of it being decent for a bit. I rarely post or will have phases where I post a little often so I don't really interact with anyone on here much cause I mostly like to read on the bus or something but the recent radfem users and even radfem farmhands make me not even want to bother. I remember the last admin had decided to limit / ban radfem threads and derailment but it's gone completely backwards since this new one came. I remember it got so bad in the last phase that people were saying men couldn't be raped / deserved to be and that little boys should be broken by women before they turn into men and if the crazy derailment and ree'ing doesn't stop anytime soon we'll be right back to that. It's not about radfem not being welcome (even tho I personally am not a fan) but instead that it derails and takes over threads and entire boards and no one can have a conversation or provide information without being called a handmaiden which like the other anon said isn't very feminist especially since the history behind handmaidens/ bedwenches consist of women and little girls being raped by men in power so the narrative doesn't even make any sense regardless of how they're trying to reinvent it. And the only reason why I and other anons call out it not being adherent to feminism is because the keep preaching at everyone about how they are a real feminist.
Tdlr: I agree with everybody else.
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>>10964>Anons complaining in this thread about other anons calling each other men for random ass posts and derailing>Come into /meta/ and call anons men for random shit like liking the food review guy
Addendum: How is the nitpicking in the moo thread any different from the nitpicking in the TND or in the Luna Slater thread?
They constantly make fun of how they look/dress, yet somehow it’s more substantial than when someone does it about moo because she’s fat?
Again: Make up your minds and either allow nitpicking or ban it consequently. I’ll gladly report all
of them, if that’s what you want.
it’s obviously the same fag considering literally every tweet posted has 0 retweets and maybe
1 like if she’s lucky. i think you’re right, it’s selfposting especially since the person also happens to always be logged out.
Why don't you take a break from posting instead of getting so upset by every little insult or label that's thrown rightfully your way?
You're only campaigning against those particular words because you're offended.