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Please post all general issues and complaints here. If you want mods to do something, or have some issue with or suggestion for site content, you should use this thread.>>>/meta/6821
should only be used for technical issues and suggestions (can't load site, site slow, bugs, site feature requests). This thread is for non-technical issues.
Tor posting isn't banned. >>10316
WKs aren't banned unless they're derailing, like really derailing. Otherwise they are a source of entertainment. Taking bait is always banned. >>10317
That is fine, although I think /w/ sort of already has personal weeb/cosplay threads.
NTA, but I get a "Your IP address is listed in tor.dsnbl.sectoor.de." pop-up when I try to post from Tor. It finally worked after repeated attempts, then I just now tried to post a screencap and got a "You have been banned" pop-up and the site went mirrored for me.
I didn't break any rules, and the post was made like 4 minutes before, so I feel like it was an autoban.
Huh, I've been able to tor post before in the past but I'll be able to implement tor support into the new engine. It also has better ipv6 support. >>10331
Just report posts like that so we can actually look into the whole scope of the encounter.
Putting images images behind spoilers unnecessarily makes finding them later a huge PITA; you can't quickly scroll through the thread looking.
It also prevents them from being indexed by Google.
seriously this. someone got banned on moo's thread for joke lyrics, cause it mentioned her weight?
how about don't hire on autist mods next time.
Posts solely about moo's weight have been no contribution bans since the start of the year.>>10355
Sageing isn't an excuse to break the rules. That goes for shay dog/cat derailment too.
Could you consider putting the Venus Angelic thread back on autosage? >>>/w/46865
Ever since it’s been removed it’s 90% cancerous infighting, bumping with stupid irrelevant shit, WKing, reposting of old pictures and nitpicking. Plus, there’s barely anything interesting happening with her nowadays anyway.
yeah mod, I was the first anon to post about this and I had the same experience as >>10328
. I actually got both the banned and the blocklist messages just in the past few hours. I got blocked literally like a minute or two after making a saged post that was within the rules and it happens to me all the time. I think you have a blocklist (DNSBL) set up that autoblocks/bans Tor nodes. https://mxtoolbox.com/problem/blacklist/SECTOOR-EXITNODEShttps://web.archive.org/web/20050207171531/http://www.sectoor.de:80/tor.php
These links may be a bit old but might be useful, I'm not sure who on the team set this up but you should probably take this blocklist off and either only block ones known for abuse or ban/block on a case by case basis.
The only post that’s red texted for derailing is the autistic one about her name.
You sure you were banned for a lipo post?
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Yep. I was only asking because Moo would have already been messing up her surgery if a liquid diet was required because she wasn't sticking to it yesterday. If it was nitpicking then sure I'd understand, but it doesn't mention that.
Handmaiden refers to the discussion of rug behaviour that women do for men, man hate is to highlight what men do and not to discuss women.
Either way that’s where you draw the line?
i'm not even someone who was arguing. i just think you guys are all crazy and this kind of infighting is fucking annoying and toxic
for the board.
>>10391>throw a tantrum because someone made an innocuous post you didn't like, as it had the words "radical feminism">expect people not to respond wondering what tf your problem is>when they do, start making unsaged, combative shitposts and sparking off infighting >later go to /meta/ to demand that the anons who hurt you by pointing out that only a high testosterone individual would unironically be this unhinged and oversensitive over nothing get banned>demand that the site to be made into a safe space for you and that all opinions you don't like should be sent a special containment board to safeguard your emotional hang-ups>liken women not liking TiMs or males to /pol/tards for literally no reason>screech about femcels for no reason (AKA the one tell ALL our resident scrotes and TiMs do, and have done in /meta/ threads in the past)
and you really wonder why people think you're an entitled man and/or troon? go and dilate, you have bigger issues at hand.
inb4 "i swear i wasn't arguing, it's everyone else's fault for posting witch pictures"
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This is the most petty shit I've ever seen in my life.
Just ignore posts that don't appeal to you next time, anon. It's called a "dumbass shit" thread. You're meant to hide it if you're averse to dumbass shit.
And to be honest, what does it even matter if some online strangers think you're a man? Maybe don't get salty about posts that vaguely mention disliking men if you don't want anyone to think that you might be one yourself.
It's pretty petty to come whining to /meta/ over something so pathetic, and
insist there should be a whole new board exclusively for radfems because of it, lmao. Just go to CC, /tttt/, Twitter, Tumblr or one of the many available subforums on Reddit if radfems on LC are so bothersome to you. The /pol/ comparison is ridiculously unfitting, too. Everyone here hates /pol/, including those in GC threads, and those that don't either get laughed off the whole board, or straight-up banned.
Except she lowkey wasn't talking about /ot/ as a whole, but her fit in a specific thread. Keep up.
Again, who really cares if some random person thinks you're a man? So what?
ntayrt but you really don't see how this post makes you look … ? Lots of us hate you fucking femcels because this shit bleeds out all over the board. 'Bu-bu-but everyone else is the problem!' >>10403
It's been that way for a long time. There's been attempts to clean it up, but the chemo hasn't been strong enough.
Still waiting on Raven's posts to get tagged. Hoping that is still going to happen.
I would also love to see these flagged.
Can we also get the Isa thread unlocked at the same time? It was inaccurately labelled as a vendetta thread at the time and tbh I'm still buttblasted about that. Many a shit thread has since been unlocked (e.g. pnp) so would be nice to see that one as well.
What is with anons misusing the spoiler?
Can images that don't need it be unspoilered, esp OP images like >>>/ot/425447
New guidelines for /ot/ based off complaints. >>>/ot/426018
Also a reminder that constant tranny and male accusations are
against the board rules. >>10421
Report it. If it's moralfaggotry or derailing it's up for grabs.
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Just want mods thoughts on the whole Jared/Holly/GG threads moving forward (since discussion isn't slowing down) – did it really need to be split off into a thread separate from GG?
Basically the "Waffle crew / DCA thread" ( >>>/snow/826388
) became the new GG thread. Now we have a thread where it's discussing the exact same milk as the last several GG threads were, but claiming its not a GG thread, but there's also no GG thread to continue on. Just seems messy and unnecessary. I know the GG themselves don't specifically have much milk these days, but everyone in the GG Cinematic Universe does, it just seemed like an easier designation to have them be the center of that venn diagram. If you're going to claim that Holly/Jared/Waffle Crew aren't associated with GG anymore, then there shouldn't be any talk of Ross or anyone else in that thread, but there is. It just seems stupid.>they're not associated with GG!>they need their own thread!>talks about the exact same people/milk as in the past 6 GG threads, including GG people>no new GG thread>?????
Even if there was a new GG thread, are we expected to talk about Ross/everyone else in the GGCU and not Holly? Do Mods think this makes sense? I think it might be helpful to just have a final say on this from Mods either way, since this has been discussed in the last few threads as well.
Wouldn't the Lainey rule apply to this? If the thing you're gonna say about Holly is directly about GG rather than the cheatingdrama then say it in the GG thread, and if the Ross thing you're gonna say is more about the Projared drama rather than GG, then say it in that thread.
Splitting topics to this extent doesn't work as well as just banning people that fight about whether a post is relevant imo but since the Lainey thing exists why not do it here too.
Lainey is totally different since a whole culture of tempfags, aka bored stay-at-home mums, sprung up around talking about how she looked like a foot and ruined the threads under the watch of the previous admin. All they had to do was make a Lainey thread anytime in the last year or so but no, they had to be forced because they're children about it.
The Holly/Jared subject has been shortlived so far and I'm going to go out on a limb and assume the new thread was made by someone who wanted to quarantine Holly conversation out of their precious GG threads for their own reasons. The problems with this "DCA" themed thread are that DCA is ostensibly over and the other couple doesn't have any public drama. It just seems like a bullshit construct to me.
The post you’re talking, I mostly used the red text to direct people to the new thread. Even if the new thread is shit, people were already moved onto the next one for a while. No point in having both being bumped.
If you see someone making crappy/lazy OPs please report and we will try to deal with it, I agree they have been very obnoxious lately. I think I’ll bring it up with staff to see how we can deal with it better.
Maybe it was remade because there is actual milk and it doesn't belong in artist salt or GC.
And why are you so angry about this? Are you one of the so-called summerfags?
i'm pretty sure it was remade because there is actual milk and it doesn't belong in artist salt or gc.
and why are you so annoyed about this? are you one of the so-called summerfags? we've had threads about specific artists in /ot/ who don't exactly fit into /snow/ without any problems, and lots of people want to talk about them.
Nevermind found it straight after posting.
Would be handy if site info was next to the rules in the menu bar
you can't just remake threads that get locked as you please.>>10449
nice backpedal on your obvious samefagging on /meta/. peep that typing style.
then instead of mini-modding, let the farmhands debate it. chances are they've seen the thread and are thinking about it now.
and can you read?>i got hasty
i post from tor, and if a post doesn't go through because of shitty connection, it's annoying having to retype it with punctuation. what kind of idiot would samefag with the exact same sentences?
I also like new admin but you're delusional if you think every single rule and decision makes sense. It's one admin and a few farmhands, they're human and not some goddly creatures who never make bad decisions and whose rules are always
to be followed. Just like laws should be a reflection of ethics and not regarded as ethical values themselves.
I think leaving things like this 100% up to mods' discretion without making room for user's input is just going to make the entire userbase unhappy in the long run.
If the bar has risen recently, and creepy fetish artists no longer count as milky, then at this rate, I feel like roughly 70% of our flakes and cows must be even lower on the grading scale.
To be sure: Can we have a hard definition for what constitutes as milk for convenience? Maybe a bullet point list so we can check each one off from now on before threads get made? If there is any doubt, anons can just reference the "tenets of milk" and provide their best examples for each one, and we can all live in peace.
i'm sorry your shitty thread got locked, but you miss my point, the issue here is being entitled and making the thread without discussing it with mods. no shit the rules aren't law or ethics, but bratty anons who don't even bother considering decisions and trying to come to agreements without taking matters into their own hands are what brings the site down.
you have to give to take, anon.
the issue is that the OP never discussed why the thread should be reinstated, and the mod told her where she could put it and there would have been no issue.
why not have a fetish artist thread if you're so set on this.
the entire thread to me just seems like some weird femcel raging that someone is drawing castrated men to be prettier than women but w/e. point is if you guys think the thread has merit, be cordial.
I was the OP, and I acknowledge that I should've asked permission after the lock. I didn't make the very first thread, but it being locked on the basis of it having no milk weirded me out, and other anons seemingly felt the same, so I acted on that, admittedly rashly. I would've just ignored it if it was one obvious vendetta thread being bumped by the same person over and over, but these artists were legitimately fucking weird, and multiple people agreed on that.>why not have a fetish artist thread if you're so set on this.
I'm not against this, but the emerging issue here seems to be that farmers and farmhands don't exactly have the same definition of "milk" anymore.
To be honest, this sort of thing is just going to keep happening until we have a set criteria on milk that we can all agree on. >the entire thread to me just seems like some weird femcel raging that someone is drawing castrated men to be prettier than women but w/e.
I strongly disagree with this, and I have a feeling I'm not the only one, but you have a right to your own opinion. I definitely don't like some threads on /w/, /pt/ or /snow/ myself, but since I know they have their own dedicated audiences who are enjoying the content, I don't get pissy about them. I just hide them. It's a good tool on all imageboards, and I encourage taking advantage of it whenever you have the chance.
I'm not even the OP of the threads, I just fiercly disagree with mods closing the thread in the first place. There wasnt even any place for discussion. Then, when some farmer came in here to complain about it, she got shut down with "you shouldnt have remade the thread" instead of with actual reasons for why the thread was shut down.
I'm generally against closing threads unless they're absolutely milkless and attract the worst kind of interactions.
absolutely, everything about those eunuch sisters is autistic and fascinating.
it's NOT about the art, it's NOT about being salty about the trannyism, it's about how telling the art is of their repressed fetishes / warped ideals.
- these threads were so much fun and I don't think polluting other threads with gallons of the milk of these same eunuch sisters is the right answer.
Maybe the lack of milk classification is because the cow isn't actually doing
anything IRL in a way that is amusing? Isn't the thread entirely about her shitty artwork and not necessarily about her narcissistic antics? There isn't drama there, and milk is pretty reliant on drama.
Or at least that's how I've managed to make sense of the mod decision to shut it down on account of "no milk". I can see art salt anons not wanting the content in that thread, so maybe just a new thread in /m/ specifically about this one artist? Idk.
Yeah, I guess it's technically
media, after all.
I haven't been banned or anything but I've noticed it too.
The summer has brought on a lot of people antagonizing other users for no reason just like every year but for some reason this year nothing has really been done about it meanwhile people get banned for the weirdest things that normally wouldn't warrant a ban.
It's sad only drama nowadays is considered milk, PT had no drama until anons poked the bear. She was just a strange person editing herself yellow and posting insensitive things. Tons of the people who made it on ED back then were these kinds of people.
Every other flake in snow is a camwhore or general attention whore asking for money online or on instagram. I guess our concept of milk nowadays is very different.
yea milk =/= drama. and it was more than just art, those girls were editing wikipedia articles to make their weird fetishes and pairings "real". im sure theres more messed up shit if we dug further.
they are a lot more entertaining than most of the current cows imo. most of the other threads are just old milk/anons nitpicking. the only milky recent event was margo being arrested, but since shes been detained thats dried up too.
I agree that drama shouldn't exclusively be considered milk, though it does seem to be the current definition for the mod team. I don't even think I'll post in the eunuch thread but it does deserve to have a place in a board somewhere
instead of being locked on sight. Just tell them a board to go to and let them have a thread of their own. What are you being stingy for?
There are also times where I'm almost certain I've gotten a ban for harmless comments moments after posting just because I must be replying to some farmhand with name off who thinks the opposite.
Seeing a lot of bans that look like they are just barring discussion outside of the popular opinion as well. Bans for obvious thread culture (pretty sure I saw a hi cow red text in one of the recent Mira threads lmao).
Also the choice to lock the new GG-projared thread just so we could finish the last of the remaining thread off was pants on head retarded. I get that newfags have been making threads prematurely but what a nitpick tier mod decision – just change the fucking make a new thread auto message to have better instructions.
These are just old tinyboard themes I made viewable. They've always existed.>>10427
We're pretty tough on cowtipping but waves of newfags come in swarms. >>10428>>10430
I'll try to have the thread more heavily moderated. Auto sage seems counterproductive.>>10435
I agree this doesn't make sense. As soon as the projared drama dies down the threads can be filled with GG or DCA milk.
The Separate thread has been locked and any GG and DCA discussion can go into >>>/snow/829410>>10437
I can change the automatic notification to 1150>>10438
Lainey was split off because her milk is repetitive and unless it directly relates to Greg it's just nitpicking. >>10450
There is a guide to posting on the rules page.>>10456
This is literally on the rules page and was previously discussed on /meta/.>>10459Board rules for /snow/
Cosplayers, j-vloggers, and lolitas belong in /w/. Make sure that the subject of a new thread is a cow, otherwise the thread is subject to deletion. Subjects must meet 3 out of the 5 following criteria:
-An unhealthy desire for attention
-Failure to accept criticism
-A lack of self awareness
-Delusions related to their skill or self importance
-No willingness to improve upon their behavior
All subjects must have:
-A documented history of bizarre behavior displayed online
-Some sort of public presence outside of private circles, groups or irc channels. Personal cows can go in the personal lolcows thread.
You can have a thread in /snow/ as long as it fits this. The subject or potential interest doesn't matter, not all of us obsess over camgirls, afterall.>>10466>>10468
This is a valid
complaint but don't samefag. It's embarrassing.>>10470
I'll check it out. Sorry about that.
>>10483>Failure to accept criticism
Tried to argue that men don't have stomach fat to defend one of their drawings of an MtF, and staunch refusal to accept anything in reality that challenges their weird pedophilic eunuch fantasies. >A lack of self awareness
They unironically believe everything they draw is accurate to history. >Delusions related to their skill or self importance
The fact that they felt themselves important and knowledgeable enough to edit Wikipedia for the sake of their eunuch fetish.>No willingness to improve upon their behavior
This is one of the most glaring issues with them. They respond with aggression, revisionist history (or outright misquoting religious texts like the Quaran) and irritation to anything that challenges their world view.
Many of their posts are linked to and translated by a Rusanon here >>>/ot/428413
to validate these claims, and the thing about stomach fat is mentioned in the first thread >>>/snow/828717
>A documented history of bizarre behavior displayed online
Holywarsoo has their posts, and they remain active on dA, IG, etc.>Some sort of public presence outside of private circles, groups or irc channels. Personal cows can go in the personal lolcows thread.
They also have public dA, IG, Twitter, etc accounts that they use.
are you the same farmer who bitched about the thread existing in /ot/ and then went to bitch over people posting about it in the art salt thread (like a farmhand told us to do) and keep mentionning nazi fetish fanart? It's obvious that there are a lot
of farmers interested in these cows but only one farmhand and maximum two posters bothered by it and yet we are the entitled ones…
The russiananon mentioned by >>10485
has managed to unearth a lot about these girls into English for us. Two homeschooled cultists of no fixed abode who feign being historians and linguists online, post racist art and edit history entries on wikipedia to bend to their fetishes… cmon. I don't follow art threads and I'm sure as hell not going to the gender crit thread. I want to read about these two freaks. They're definitely flakes, as it turns out.>>10482
Seconding this, it happened to me recently when I reported some derailing on both sides of an argument - hardly partial. I guess I reported a farmhand in there somwhere. It feels like the first flush of attention and improvement since the staff changeover has given way to something else.
do you just not want anyone discussing things you're not personally into? we were made
to take it there. in fact, we're still trying to get our own thread. this whole problem is a fuck-up on the farmhand's part, it being sent to the artist salt there was literally their command.
if you really want us out, you'll be on our side in asking for one of the threads to be unlocked so we can move there.
>but muh art fetish general
are you a mod? do you have any authority on what threads get locked? if not, then your suggestion was completely worthless and most likely would've just resulted in another lock for making a thread without permission and going against the farmhand's command to keep it in artist salt.
if you think differently, make a thread yourself with the eunuch sister's stuff and a rundown of their content as the OP, and see what happens. if it's accepted, the posters will inevitably go there, you can hide it and everyone will be happy. if it's not, accept it, make sure to take responsibility so no one can say "wow the eunuch sister posters are so dumb they just won't stop making threads without permission" and be quiet
It definitely is one of maybe three people (max) complaining non-stop about anybody discussing the dA users, both here and on /ot/. You can tell it's them because this is maybe the second time this one has claimed all the people who want to talk about this subject are "samefagging", with the exact same typing style, at that.
No wonder they're accusing everybody of samefagging. It's probably actually what they've
been up to all this time.
Mild tinfoil, but I feel like they're dead-set on derailing any calm discussion on this subject via infighting. They're probably doing it in hopes that the entire topic will be banned, perhaps because it makes them feel personally targeted somehow. So, to get back on point:
We've confirmed they have milk after an anon found and loosely translated their Russian social media posts, and enough people obviously want to talk about them. We've even gone over the hard criteria for milk. There's really no reason not to have a thread at this point.
The art salt thread anons who want to discuss YouTubers will be able to do so without having to wade through eunuch artist milk, and the eunuch artist posters will have their own space delegated to talk about this subject. Everybody would win hypothetically, so why not?
don't be a faggot, posts like >>>/ot/428788
are clearly derailing. telling someone they will be ignored is fucking derailing.
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this was a really odd ban. the anon was just describing the current situation for someone who asked. what's next, banning the anon who came back after a week and dared to question what the hell was going on? >inb4 i "suddenly" get accused of being that anon ban evading and receive a ban even though my comment history should be easy to check (then again i'm on tor)
between this and all the complaints about poorly thought out bans lately, what the hell is even going on with our farmhands? they were doing so well from the start>>10498
to be honest, any current issues in the artist salt thread will go away if one of the eunuch sisters threads is unlocked. it's that simple. no one has even been able to explain why they don't count as milky so far.
one persistent weirdo claiming anybody who wants to discuss them must totally actually be a "samefagging femcel m'dude why don't you care about kawaii nazis instead??" isn't a good argument at all
It's really starting to look like the only reason mods aren't listening is pure hubris and refusal to admit they could've made a lapse in judgment. I'm not saying that's the case, but it's just…not a good look.
No one is happy with this current set-up, and the solution is so easy.
This almost reminds me of when our original admin, Ian, threw a shitfit and locked/deleted a bunch of threads before he left the site. The only reason he gave was that he personally didn't care for them.
it's really obvious you tards are selfposting when half the posts are just gushing over the bootiful art and how kawaii the creators are.
just give it a rest no1curr about you.
>>10515>even targeted the anon who innocently asked about samefag redtexting, implicitly admitting that they're the same retard who's been samefagging about this for days
you really must be here just for the summer, congrats on learning a new word after babbling "samefag", "femcel" and "nazi" hundreds of times. unfortunately, no one is buying your dumb tinfoil. if these russian chicks were selfposting, not only would the english in all the posts be worse, they wouldn't even once criticize their shitty psuedo-history, but that's all anyone's been doing.
go and find something that's actually constructive to say, or take your autism elsewhere. the farmhand messed up, this always required its own thread, and anons will keep requesting one until it's addressed. cope.
are you? i mean seriously, you've been repeating the same thing so many times. everyone's pretty sick of it.
this thread is for mods to address complaints, not for you to attack people and tinfoil
You're an insufferable newfag. You can have your thread and you can watch it die down. Now stop speaking as the "vast majority" of users.>>10522>>10521
I'll personally take a look at this right now.
Speaking as someone who didn't post once about the eunuch sisters, I found these threads highly entertaining and the mods' decision to lock the threads and keep them in the art-salt thread completely retarded.
So what if the thread ends up dying down? Plenty of threads on /snow/ are semi-dead already.
the refusal to unlock it and fucking weird suggestions like 'take it to gender crit' spawned this. the staff salt is unbelievable. yes there is a degree of autism in the thread to start with but being so pissed you can't go back and unlock a mildly autistic thread about two strange girls when you have baylee, shayna, and pnp threads all still pumping along is really something.
I got a mod message about using the old thread but currently a new thread is most active, which one are staff wanting us to use?
there are like 3 out of 150 posts (in the latest thread) saying the art is beautiful, everyone else is just laughing at them.
Also have you seen how they write in english? Their english is almost broken and they have a very distinct typing style I have yet to see in their threads.
First time I've posted about it, since as my post states I've only now even looked at these threads.
My complaint isn't about this topic getting a thread, it's about the shitty mod-admin response to it that is another indication to the nitpicky/petty way they've been dealing with things.
Perhaps you need to check your spectrum before screeching autist since any mention of this eunuch topic apparently sends you into a fury, as evident by your lack of reading comprehension.
Admin, if you are going to call out this >>10524
person for being an insufferable newfag (which I am not doubting that they are), can you call out the other side with this obvious instigating, 'tism obsessed anon:>>10540>>10535>>10529
Should be fixed.
inb4 another grand conspiracy >>10539
I had no idea about the thread until 2 days after the fact my farmhands handled it in the way the saw fit. They can have their own thread in /snow/ given it meets the /snow/ guidelines.
The original thread was unlocked so what's the issue? >>10541
Perhaps because it's been the same 3-4 anons ban evading, samefagging, and sperging about it for days? >>10542
This is childish tattle-telling. If it was the same person they would be called out as I usually do on /meta/.>>10545
Summerfags get banned, and some ban evade. Threads don't need to be banned if it's a valid
topic, the shit anons just need to integrate or [get banned].
If admin is admitting that she had no idea of her farmhand's actions, and that they undid said actions because the thread does indeed meet /snow/ standards, then how is it derailing to come to the thread made for complaints to… complain?
You really don't see the irony in your own commentary, do you?>>10548>>10549
If the jist of the complaints about the Eunuch thread have been select samefagging and ban-evading, then why is everyone who believes the thread to be milky being called spergs and punished for it?
My original point stands that the farmhands reacted harshly and prematurely to a new topic, something that, spergy samefagging newfags or not, has the potential to hinder the growth/overall "milk"/"cows" of the site in the long run.
I have already expressed my feelings that farmhands are selectively banning based on personal bias/differing opinions to topics, and that complaining about Eunuch on here is considered spergy derailing, but screeching that those posters should be banned/are autists isn't, just makes it appear even more like a double standard at play. (ie. "they agree with me, so I'm letting it slide").
It can be repeated that we as regular users can't understand/see the back-end/inner workings of staff/site, but blindly believing that is exactly how this site went downhill at the hands of past Admin's. This entire incident is just a tiny drop in a bigger bucket.
I think you misunderstood admin. The bulk of the anons who believe
the Eunuch thread to be milky have been samefagging, ban-evading, and generally acting like children, not the other way around. About four anons were behind the vast majority of the sperging, one of which has been evading a permaban for weeks.
>>10549>been the same 3-4 anons
this is disregarding anyone who casually read the thread and added comment about the unusual banning of it here. I didn't ban evade, samefag or sperg and I can't be the only one.
>original thread was unlocked
that's not even the thread in use now. there's absolutely been some autism involved in the making of all the threads but since it was dictated that it go to some pretty odd destinations (gender crit?) can't you acknowledge staff reaction to this thread was ott at all. it was staff who triggered
at least some of the remaking of this harmlessly wierd thread, perhaps over an incorrectly perceived slight about gender politics or fetishes. look at what staff did and why.
I don't think I misunderstood at all. I understand there are ban evading, samefagging sperg anons that were for the thread.
But there are also anons and staff in this thread and the others related, calling everyone spergs and acting like we're unjustified in complaining that this subject is classic cow material. Unless you are saying I misunderstood and those are also ban evaders…
Which I sort of doubt since at the end of one of the eunuch threads some anon says "there must be something wrong with you tards considering you weren't supposed to make a new thread for this." And the farmhand quotes it to say "this".
Even if that thread shouldn't have been made and that anon wasn't wrong, in any other context that'd be pegged as infighting, derailing or mini modding. But instead it's a farmhand agreeing with it because it agrees with their opinion.
Is it really this beyond you guys to take a step back and realize the way this was handled was shitty regardless of samefags, shows an underlining issue with what at least one farm hand believes to be "proper action" and give a bit more transparency (like was originally promised)? That entire thread and this one could've been ban evading sperging samefags and it wouldn't change anything I just said…?
Not everyone is a sperg but the 4 anons who samefagged in here are.
There isn't anything wrong with the thread topic itself so I unlocked what I believed to be the original thread.
Either way continuously remaking threads (like repzilla) is generally bad practice.
By the way, we ban based off of patterns of behavior and the severity of an offense, not minor incidents. One snarky comment isn't going to equate to an anons whose post history consists of infighting.
Yeah the obsessive amount of trying to figure out where she lives and sharing it is too far. If you're crazy enough to doxx her then just say "she lives in a ___ type place now" and nothing else. Posting exact location is uncalled for.
I think TND's thread is full of crazy junkies like sex worker threads are full of jealous sex workers.
>>10563>>10564No street addresses, phone numbers, or places of employment,
*unless* the subject has published that information publicly on their social media.>How is her location or speculation about which exact sober living home she’s in any way milky?
I don't know, I don't have a fixation or hero complex.
I will say though, onion anons have done far worse. People will be autistic and do shit regardless. Obviously anything violating the rules will be removed.
EDIT: she essentially doxxed herself
I don't even protect farmers who doxx themselves.
it's different because there are also a lot of people interested in different areas of animal care in there, snakes, reptiles, rats etc. there isn't just one group, and there are a lot of anons with no idea about drugs or tattoos.
shay threads really just are a pack of rabid camgirls and their sympathisers.
I do think they are unlocked to punish people for not integrating or paying attention as you said. That has to be on purpose.
Leaving old threads unlocked just to get a few hits on a few careless anons is actually a bad call. The confusion it causes isn't worth getting to ban a couple anons here and there.
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Hurt feelings isn't a valid ban reason. If you want to ban for 'derailing' I understand, it's just a bit harder to justify that when there's only two posts been made with one being a misquote.
I didn't even know I was banned because I'd been gone the entire night. Don't make me cringe with this petty shit.
It wasn't for hurt feelings, you were sperging out at anons over belle delphine so you were given a 30 minute ban. >>10581>botch memes>ESL
None of those things have anything to do with the ban.
I'm not saying it had anything to do with that ban. The line where the reason for the ban usually goes is a botched meme that makes the farmhand sound like an infighter that was given some power.
Sorry but whoever you appointed sounds like an immature sperg themselves.
Not complaining about my ban, just asking to avoid making the same mistake in the future.
Where exactly do you draw the line with nitpicking in the Momokun thread? After all her weight/appearance/how she presents herself is kinda part of the 'joke'. I get that 'haha she fat' posts desperately need to be kept at bay, but there's the 'just calling her fat is no contribution' rule.
be considered nitpicking, too?
Again, not complaining, just wondering because it's really hard to tell what is and what isn't considered nitpicking.
Are you retarded? The post literally is just ‘lol she’s holding up her fat belly’. People have been banned for nitpicking for way more substantial posts.
And I wasn’t banned for just calling her fat so idek what you’re trying to tell me?
What the fuck is your problem?
Why does it trigger
you so much that I’m asking for a more detailed definition of what’s considered nitpicking?
NTA but I didn't see it as bitching or whatever the other anon is accusing you of. What needs to be acknowledged by the mod team is that there is pretty much no substance to momo other than making fun of her appearance so mocking her is actually pretty much on topic. It's not like Gurg, Margo, or Trasha where there's more to the cow. Some of the cows on this site are like momo, they're just ugly and annoying. The justification for momo being a cow is shit like "uhhhh sexual harassment" but really people are there to gawk at her disgusting appearance. There is fucking nothing
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Yes, you banned me a week for posting pic related, but hating on entire countries (or a whole continent) is somehow less bad and not racist/banworthy?
I mean there are things besides the sexual harrassment, like her inaccurate/low effort 'cosplays', her imaginary diet and workouts, the scamming by saying she's going to donate money… The milk is there, but isn't as frequent, so her obvious lies about her weight and the way she presents herself offer a lot more to talk about.
If it's too nitpicky for /pt/ maybe moving it to /snow/ would be an option?
Well if we had clear info like>laughing about that she's gripping her fupa to show her vag is okay>talking about her pudgy face or how her surgeries have gone to waste isn't
(even though that still seems kinda arbitrary) it wouldn't be so hard to stick to the rules.
But either way, there's a bunch of people who apparently do enjoy talking about this kind of thing (to some extent) and it's not up to you to decide who gets banned for what.
You're both equally spergy to outsiders and that thread was there before /m/ even existed, newfag. "Anime critical" discussion could just be moved back into the normal anime thread anyways, it's all the same autistic weebs.
I've never posted in either thread before you accuse me of being an anti animufag.
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>Summerfags are too dumb to realise if their posts start with "I.." or "As a professional/diagnosed Y I can…" It's blog posting and to instead use third person. Hint : no one cares about your personal experience as a professional retard or about you performing lobotomy n yourself to become one. Just use third person, why would you even want to admit that shit?
>Summerfags are too dumb to realise they don't need to comment on everything.
>Summerfags are too dumb to realise sageing a post doesn't allow breaking rules.
>Summerfags are too self centered and think mods target them because they get banned a lot, instead of realising there's probably a handful of staff and tens of thousands of visitors daily on this site. Instead, it must be farmhand ran farm surveillance targeting poor diagnosed professional retard from reddit/tumblr/twitter
>Summerfags are so dumb that they think all bans are redtexted, not because that particular post got reported a lot.
>Summerfags are so dumb, they think this is like Reddit where you'll get asspats for sharing your retarded idea.
Summerfags will probably think this doesn't apply to them. It does.
Your personal opinion or experience * doesn't matter " when it comes to cows, unless you intend to become one. If that's the case, good luck.
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Okay seriously can someone explain to me how re-posting an already posted picture with just an insult is neither nitpicking nor ‘no contribution’?
I think all the junkie blogging, well it's a pita but she didn't relapse so that's chilled out, I've noticed. To me it's like when the snakefags post the obesity chart for the umpteenth time, or remember the cat bowl sperg anon from the old threads? Right now I'm genuinely concerned about the summerfag "let's dox everyone and everything reee it's public information" attitude in there. We're minutes or hours away from someone posting her sober living address and for no good reason at all.>>10643
I don't think she'll be getting properly sober for a long while, since her recovery's already a mess. If you don't like the storyline it doesn't mean she's due for a downgrade. Taylor belongs in /pt/, she's a huge cow who just bought a gun with the help of a felon then stored it illegally to protect herself from… lolcow. Cmon.
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How fitting, just should have scroll a bit.>>10635
Now that Kelly's thread is active again, can Admin and Farmhands look out for her selfposting?>>10645
We wouldn't have been aware of half of her lies if we hadn't known program she was enrolled in.
Can we stop with locking new threads before the previous one hits 1200? It leads to shit threads. If someone makes a new one after 1100 posts, someone competent has time to update it and do it correctly. If we have to wait until 1200 then someone just scrambles to do it asap and it ends up as a shit thread.
This is the second Holly/Projared thread with an absolute shit thread, where OP has just copied and pasted the previous thread's OP word for word, and not updated any of the info, even though there's been a TON of new milk since the last one and used a terrible thread pic. They didn't even link the correct previous thread. Now the conversation is continuing, and the new thread is a mess. I'd offer to make the new thread, but there's no time to sit down and catch up on all the entire thread's last milk. The current one is >>>/snow/841232
and the one you previously had to lock for being a shit OP was >>>/snow/836002
Again, this has only started happening since you've stopped us from making new threads after 1100.
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Except that's not what we were told? We were specifically told to not make new threads until the last one was full. And because of that it seems like anyone decent too afraid to make the thread before that, even if they have all the new info locked and loaded ready to go past 1100. Then they miss the very specific >1200 window. This thread in particular basically already had the entire new OP written up (and posted) and multiple votes for new OP pics, and the newfag just ignored all of that to copy and paste the old OP and use literally the 2nd pic that comes up when you google "projared".
What happened with pic related was someone made a (competent) thread a good bit after 1100, people went over to the new thread and continued the convo there, that thread then got locked and we got sent back to the old thread to restart the conversation we were having on the new thread for like, <50 posts or whatever and THEN we could have the new one unlocked to then have to restart the conversation again over there. If we now have to wait until 1200, people go until it gets totally locked, then some newfag creates a new thread, and then that new thread is never actually linked in the old thread, because it's already been maxed out to the point where no one else can post.
For what purpose? I don't understand what difference it makes? I could see it being an issue if it was being done at like, 900-1000 or if it was a thread that was moving at a glacial pace past 1100 with no new milk, but the Jared/Holly threads are constantly moving? It just makes everything a giant mess. We've already had enough of an issue keeping the threads linear with people always trying to change the topic, why add this issue on top of it? If we keep having to remake the shit threads or restart the conversation over and over again perfectly good milk just falls through the cracks.
NTA, but I think it's that he's actually documented as personally harassing multiple women and children IRL, taken them to court, and ruined several of their careers for not pandering to his ball-waxing fetish that sets him apart.
I do agree the zoophiles belonged in /pt/, now that you mention it, but it's probably too late for that now.
Because mods ARE aware of how much of a cow he is. He isn't JUST a troon like other anon said, he does cow behaviour that goes beyond "muh transbian"
The rules haven't changed, he just actually belongs in /pt/
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Is the farmhand in charge of the Belle thread ok????
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This post wasn't off topic or derailing so why was it banned. It was even saged. This is very frustrating
I came to /meta to find a thanks thread for putting Yaniv in the /pt. Well done mods, this cow gives full cream milk.
To anyone else to doesn't understand why he's there should maybe go read the KF thread for old milk. This guy is a horrorshow and 100% deserves to be in the /pt.
and again my question was more for the mods, since it seems that they knew the status already. I was just wondering what they
had to say about these situations, where cows are /pt/ material because of their status elsewhere, and how that's determined etc.
I’m assuming we have new mods on the team who are obnoxiously trigger
happy because I’m noticing I’ll get banned for something for one day, then after that ban I’ll be banned for some other comment for three days, then banned for something else for one day and it’s like… can you relax? Just give a warning instead or maybe bundle them? The rules are so random. I’ve been banned for things others were allowed to post and then avoided banning even when I was purposely being a shithead. Makes me not want to come here as much though I doubt the mods care
Yaniv is not a relatively new cow, he just hasn't had an active thread on here >>10689
There are new no mods or janitors. The Belle Delphine thread is really just that bad.>>10687
Please appeal or email me at email@example.com if this is happening so I can look into the post and mods involved
Don't insult me and pretend your samefagging isn't obvious. >>10687>>10693
>an actual employer would sack them immediately for such despicable behaviour.
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this is the funniest post in this thread>an actual employer would sack them immediately for such despicable behaviour.>they do it for free
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>>10697>thinking Farmhands have a time limit for banning a post
You're too autistic for Lolcow, congrats.
(yes, samefag herp derp)>>10699
(A continuation, my ban expired but I'm now getting banned for evasion. The ban has expired ffs)
These are my only posts, yes one is a samefag I admit. The others are not me. Are you really this stupid? I don't know if people pretending to be me to shit stir or genuinely have the same complaint and just so happen to type in the same style which doesn't help but those are my only posts. I post in lots of threads but only ever get banned in the Shay thread, and why is that?(Ban evasion)
Just leave for a bit, you won't win.
I've literally been banned because the retarded moderation misinterpreted what I posted or thought I was a scrote (the latter which gets appealed but is annoying nonetheless).
Just accept that the bitches can do whatever they want with impunity and lay low. It's too much effort to fight stupid shit and hopefully the next cycle won't be so retarded. It's been this way for forever.
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This can't be real, lmao
why don't they just put the belle thread on autosage so everyone can jerk off over there and mods can stop chimping out and banning for nothing
if its so useless then why keep it up
"Trans women ARE women"
that's just your personal opinion, if you get so triggered
by people giving their non sjw opinions, you should leave.
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Looks like since tumblr is dying a slow death, trannies and sjws are fleeing and trying to infect new places.
Fuck this shit lmao
Don't really agree with this either if the sperging isn't leaking out of the thread in question to a massive degree. Almost all cows/flakes end up with spergs; locking the thread/subject over that would leave the entire site bare.
This also punishes users who are not part of the sperg and just enjoy following the petty drama, as well as promotes the idea that you can have your thread removed as long as you get enough WKs to come be problemic enough for you.
Historically I can't think of a flake or cow in snow or pt your proposed solution wouldn't have left a locked thread to.
Also think it'll just make the remaining non spergs and contributing anons leave or discourage quality posts. No point in adding to the discussion when the actions of a few loud anons can have the entire thing taken away because they aren't adhering to punishment. And I have no doubts most of those spergs are more persistent and planning to stick around past thread lock than the average poster.
I did say if the moderation isn't working, aka there is an overwhelming amount of ban evading spergs and the thread is unsalvageable. I was not saying remove threads with any
amount of spergs…
Anachan General is now an official trash fire. Idk if it's worth reporting any one thing now, I know some of it's redtexted but the derailing rages on. >>10750
Ugh yes, I've reported a lot of those stan twitter screencap posts, no redtext but they've stopped so I'm assuming bans happened?
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Can mods explain the logic of why "Cosplay & Convention General" doesn't belong in /w/? One anon (I assume the one who reported it needing to be moved) said /w/ was only for cows but the board info says>the following topics and cows:>Cosplay or costhots>Lolita>drama related to any individual or group with an obsession with Japanese culture or a particular trend
Topics of discussion specified include>Regional Conventions/Cows/Dramu>Convention Horror Stories>Seagull Nostalgia/Vintage Milk
& there's other community/general threads that are still there>Western Vocaloid Community>Animecore / Early Web Communities>Gaijin Gyaru>Lolita Lolcows>Net-idol/Dance Cover Groups Drama General
It meets every one of the criteria listed above but it still got moved to /g/ immediately. The only criteria it vaguely fits for /g/ is "girly" and "fashion", both of which seem like a stretch/are subjective. Gyaru and Lolita fit those criteria better, even. The board is named "vloggers, lolita, cosplay
"…but a Cosplay thread doesn't belong there? Not trying to criticize or anything but I made sure to read all of the rules and info for the board before creating it, so I'm just trying to understand where I went wrong. Should the board rules/info be changed maybe then, if it is only for cows and not for other drama? I tried to make it as general as possible so the Costhot thread wouldn't get clogged with non-thot cosplay drama/personal cows. It's just very confusing.
Because those generals are not to discuss and talk about your favorite things in regards to those topics and make friends, but to laugh at and mock their participants.
/g/ is for conversation on fashion, stuff like friend finder generals, health/beauty, relationship stuff, personal hobbies, etc.
It had questions like "What's your dream cosplay?" or "What cons are you going to?", which isn't really drama-related, and since it involves doing stuff IRL (going to conventions), /m/ might not be the best fit either. A regional cows, seagull nostalgia/milk and/or con horror thread alone might have worked for /w/, though. It's just that other, personal blog sort of stuff was added in.
It's kind of regrettable that the gifs/images died when the thread was moved, but the move itself made sense IMO.
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>>10762>/w/ is a drama board and not a general bathroom talk board
It literally doesn't say that anywhere though, not in the board rules or the board info. It says "TOPICS and cows [relating to cosplay]" not "cows only" or "drama only". You're just making up rules that don't exist. What about Cosplay is bathroom talk? There's drama in cosplay that doesn't have to do with costhots, so where are we supposed to discuss it? Because it would derailing/ot to do it in the costhot thread.>>10765>but to laugh at and mock their participants
again>Regional Conventions/Cows/Dramu>Convention Horror Stories>Seagull Nostalgia/Vintage Milk
Also the other "Drama General" threads do talk about general stuff. You can't discuss multiple cows in that community without discussing/understanding the community overall. You can't talk about Regional Drama without acknowledging regional conventions. You can't talk about Con Horror Stories, unless you talk about conventions in general. You can't talk about Vintage Milk unless you're talking about the community itself. That's why those other points are included in the op. None of these threads exists in a vacuum.>/g/ is for conversation on fashion, stuff like friend finder generals, health/beauty, relationship stuff, personal hobbies, etc.
It doesn't meet any of those criteria. No where on /g/ does it say it's a board for personal hobbies. If cosplay met any of that criteria, then why have a whole separate board for it in the first place? /w/ says it's for "cosplay, lolita, or any group with an obsession with Japanese culture".>>10765>it should go in /g/>>10767>it should go in /m/>>10770>it should go in /ot/
Again….how is the simplest/most correct solution not "Put the Cosplay thread on the Cosplay board"? Why is the board called "Cosplay" if we can't talk about cosplay?
I was excited when we got a Cosplay board because I thought it'd be like /cgl/ again (back when /cgl/ was fun and not dead). Even the pinned post on there makes it seem like that's what it's supposed to be? Esp if the board is called cosplay and lolita, and the pinned post basically mirrors /cgl/'s. I don't understand why cosplay would be ot there.>>10770>I personally think that "con drama" sounds like an /ot/ board, simply because not all cons are anime cons.
This may be the stupidest thing I've read in a long time. What other type of conventions would we be talking about on this website? Business conventions?
>>10778>NTA but uhm… gaming and comic book conventions do exist and people go there in cosplay …?
Again, one of the stupidest things I've read. If people go to them in cosplay, why wouldn't they fall under the category of "Conventions & Cosplay"? The discussion was about conventions where people cosplay >>10770
op was the only one who ever even mentioned "anime". Conventions it a catch-all term.
You must have been lost when we were discussing /w/'s existence. Look at the older /meta/ threads talking about it.
It was always meant to be a drama board. No one wants to dig through "Post your favorite cosplay" or "Dress up game general" stuff when they're trying to navigate to a thread about an actual cow or flake. That kind of thing has its place. Otherwise, /snow/ could just become /ot/ with no problem.
Personal blogging and circlejerking doesn't mix with drama. If it's this dire, just make your thread in CC, ffs.
You must have been lost when we were discussing /w/'s existence. Look at the older /meta/ threads talking about it. And like, did you even read:Threads not dedicated to drama can go to /ot/ for discussion.
It's right there. No one would have told you to fuck off to /w/ if you had just made the thread in /ot/ or /m/, because that's ostensibly where something like that belongs.
It was always meant to be a drama board. No one wants to dig through "Post your favorite cosplay" or "Dress up game general" stuff when they're trying to navigate to a thread about an actual cow or flake. That kind of thing has its place. Otherwise, /snow/ could just become /ot/ with no problem.
Personal blogging and circlejerking doesn't mix with drama. If it's this dire, just make your thread in CC, ffs.
>>10782>>10781>>10783>And like, did you even read
Did you read the rest of the pinned post where it says "topics" and "cosplay" or did you just look at one sentence there at the very bottom?
>Threads not dedicated to drama can go to /ot/ for discussion.
But it is about drama and it didn't go to /ot/ so this is irrelevant on all fronts.
>You must have been lost when we were discussing /w/'s existence. Look at the older /meta/ threads talking about it.
So you're saying we shouldn't follow the rules written by mods on the board rules page or the pinned post of the board itself, but the actual "secret menu" rules are the ones a bunch of anons said months ago before the board even existed? Got it, thanks for clearing that up. I guess I'll report any /w/ questions directly to you in the future and not mods.
>No one wants to dig through "Post your favorite cosplay" or "Dress up game general" stuff
I don't even know what kind of sperging you're doing here. Do you think people are going to go into a thread about a cow and go "THIS IS MY FAV COSPLAY"? "Dress up game general" has nothing to do with what we're talking about, and already has a thread in /m/ so…..another "irrelevant on all fronts" thing.
>when they're trying to navigate to a thread about an actual cow or flake.
Did you know there's a catalogue? Where you can just find the board you're looking for? Did you know you can just hide boards you don't want to see instead of throwing a full blown temper tantrum when your feelings get hurt by other people enjoying something that isn't exclusively what you enjoy? Did you know not everything's about you?
>>10788>Did you read the rest of the pinned post where it says "topics" and "cosplay" or did you just look at one sentence there at the very bottom?
"Topics" and "cosplay" would relate directly to drama, not circlejerking. Reading comprehension.
>But it is about drama and it didn't go to /ot/ so this is irrelevant on all fronts.
Evidently not. It literally started with things unrelated to drama. Just make separate threads.
>So you're saying we shouldn't follow the rules written by mods on the board rules page or the pinned post of the board itself,
You clearly didn't do either of those things, otherwise you wouldn't have missed that very obvious part I highlighted, so I don't know why you're arguing from this standpoint of "I did everything right and you're just being MEAN".
>I don't even know what kind of sperging you're doing here. Do you think people are going to go into a thread about a cow and go "THIS IS MY FAV COSPLAY"? "Dress up game general" has nothing to do with what we're talking about, and already has a thread in /m/ so…..another "irrelevant on all fronts" thing.
Again, reading comprehension. It relates directly to you wanting /w/ to be full of non-drama content all because you couldn't read. "This is my fav cosplay" is literally along the lines one of the very first topics in your thread ("dream cosplay"). The second is linked to the fact that the dress up game general would typically fall under "weeb shit".
>Did you know there's a catalogue?
That's no excuse to flood a board with a very specific purpose with unrelated shit.
It's ironic that you'd accuse me of throwing a temper tantrum and add on all this stuff about "feelings" just because I explained why your thread was moved. It wasn't even deleted, and you weren't banned. It was just moved
for not fitting the actual purpose of the board, which flew over your head, and now you're here yelling and complaining that you followed the rules (which you didn't), and that even if you did not, the rules should be changed for your sake when we already have like three other boards which easily would've accommodated this very same thread.
>Did you know not everything's about you?
This is the main thing you should've asked yourself before coming here to piss and moan.
The mods just weren't in the wrong here, sorry. I promise you can and will recover from this traumatic event.
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ntayrt but holy shit do you need to calm down. >That's no excuse to flood a board with a very specific purpose with unrelated shit. >"flooding" the cosplay board with one single thread about cosplay
We're literally talking about one
thread among dozens on a board…a board about cosplay. If it hurts your butt that much to have to look at one
thread where people are talking about something you don't want to talk about just hide it fam just don't look at it's not that deep lmao. Never seen autism like this in my life. I'm so sorry your parents didn't prepare you for a world that doesn't revolve around you.
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Look, you can call me "butthurt" or project as much as you want, but that won't change the very basic fact that boards have specific purposes. Threads are moved if they don't fit that. /w/ is not just a general board, and a simple look at the threads in it or at the sticky would've gleamed that. Nowhere does it say "Discuss your dream cosplays and cons you're going to attend". You misread the rules or misinterpreted it that way? That's fine. Mistakes happen. Just put the thread somewhere more fitting. It is what it is. No one was harmed by this.
It's not about me or what I want, as I'm not the admin. I'm just quoting the rules that you seem to have missed.
Deal with it. Or, keep getting mad at farmhands for doing their jobs, I guess.
NTA, but it shows that even though the rules are vague, those of us who aren't new or inattentive still understood board culture well enough to know what does and doesn't belong.
If you can't relate, that's your problem, not the site's, and complaints about that would actually go in the dumbass shit thread.
it's not your decision what goes ITT. lol become a mod if you want to bitch about what you deem valid
. also if you look at some of the threads on /w/ they are a fucking mess anyway. nothing worth protecting.
Newfag confirmed. No one's bitching but you.>nothing worth protecting
Then find another site, lmao.
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>>10800>Ok pwincess, go ahead and wait to speak to the manager.
Christ YES that's what we're trying to do but you won't shut the fuck up. That's literally what this thread is for, are you lost? Why the fuck would we listen to you? You literally don't have any authority on anything, you're just an anon shitting your pants over one singular thread. You're attempting to mini-mod the entire concept of a board with your own butthurt, over ONE thread. You're doing the equivalent of standing at the customer service desk of a Staples and screaming at customers who are trying to ask an employee if they sell staples, about how having one box of staples at a store named Staples is FLOODING THE STORE WITH STAPLES and NOT WHAT THE STORE IS ABOUT. Are you such a newfag that you not know how any of this works? Or are you just so self obsessed that you think every single interaction on this site HAS to revolve around you and your opinions?
This ties with >>10708
for my favorite tantrums in this thread.
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this isn't my post but fucking really? this is a known bug when the site goes down. wtf?
What‘s up with >>>/g/84480
slowly becoming an anachan circlejerk?
Is that really necessary?
Amazing how many times this has to be brought up and yet it repeatedly gets glossed over with things like "you guys just don't see what the mods do".
Unfortunately with how absolutely shitty the site got under the reign of the past admin, anything current admin+mods do right now is an upgrade, including this.
i disagree, new admin and new mods are definitely worse. maybe not worse then when old admin was in the process of jumping ship, but new admin hasn't changed anything for the better. when shit like >>10824
happens and no one acknowledges a fuck up and just silently deletes/unbans, that's a bad system.
be embarrassed and get called out. mods do this for free so without accountability they have no incentive to fix anything. it's not like them getting "fired" means anything.
The problem is Miranda is not the only retard in the thread now. It used to be an easy dynamic between non-retarded posters and Miranda, but now that there are two or more retards discoursing in there, it's wall to wall retardation.
Alkanadiya Hellweek, pls.
I've been using lolcow since the days of its inception and for the past few years have really found myself falling out of love with the site, largely due to how it's run. If there are any other long term users left out there, am I alone or does anyone else feel this way?
1. I feel like, while I think the pink pill type threads where originally meant to act as containment threads, they're in reality seeming to attract a specific type of new member. The frequent use of words like 'scrot' or 'handmaiden', and derailing into radfem discourse just feels excessive and annoying. I'm not saying the points being made aren't important topics or good points, i'm not trying to make a comment on the actual content of them at all, but it's similar to race-related derailing. While the topic may be important, it's no less annoying. Around 2015/2016, threads would frequently dissolve into debates about race relations until a ban was put on unrelated race related discussion - I feel like a similar thing should be done to topics regarding radical feminism, and I think there should be a discussion of how many people actually want the pink pill type threads on the board. I feel like it may work better to just have one of this type of thread, we currently have: pink pill thread (number 26), gender critical, radical feminism, friending a troon, which all really heavily overlap. I feel like having loads of boards about pretty much the same topic isn't serving the site well.
2. I also feel like the splitting of boards is quite counterintuitive and confusing. There is no real distinction between threads that belong on /ot/ and /g/, and /m/was a board that overwhelmingly people did not want, which overlaps a lot with /ot/. I feel like spreading it out so much slows down the site traffic and it would make more sense to shrink the number of boards and limit repetitive threads.
I think having /w/ be a separate board is a really strange and unnecessary decision considering the nature of the site. Weebs and cows/snowflakes are obviously not mutually exclusive so I don't understand why they are a distinct category. The point of the site was weeb type cows so if anything it should be other variations of cows that have a separate board. I feel like /snow/ and /pt/ being now mostly full of just youtubers really changed the audience and feel of the site.
This is small but I also think it's strange that [ot/g/m] appears first, in front of [pt/snow/w] when the latter is supposed to be the main topic of the site, I think it would make more sense to have it the other way round but idk if it will actually make a difference to anything
3. I also feel like there is a huge problem with over moderation, and that moderation seems to be quite inconsistent. Things like 'hi cow' or 'underated post', while i get contribute nothing and are annoying, really don't happen that frequently and were not banned in the early years of lolcow - do people really feel like this rule has improved the quality of this site? I find the red text and banning over these small mistakes more annoying than the actual posts themselves and only deter new users and traffic from the site. However, things like blogposting for example is actually much more derailing and is currently out of control across the board and for some reason doesn't appear to be being dealt with by mods?
I also don't enjoy the concept of banned threads. For example the Anisa thread (and a few years back the Berry thread), are not threads I had any interest in, but I feel objectively were no different in ~quality~ than the majority of threads in this board. I feel like there was never really a real reason given for them being banned, and that the small (if any) benefit in banning them is hugely outweighed by the negative precedent that even having banned threads (on cows) sets. It just goes against the entire ethos of the 'anything goes' nature that the site originally had.
There's more things, but this is already so long…. but does anyone else feel like this?
I've been saying this for a while, but users who have only been here for the past 2 years whine about "newfags". I hate all the radfem/pinkpill shit now because while those users are generally fine, the newfag users that come for those threads are awful little shitbags that never shut the fuck up. you can definitely tell who is who, and it's those users that make the pinkpill threads so lame with their sperging. I also agree about the weebshit whining.I feel that too many users on the site are quick to brush off it's roots as if anything they don't like should suddenly stop existing.
All in all I think the major shift is
the new userbase, but I guess that's just how the site is going. Sometimes I go on /cgl/ but it's a fucking hugbox hellhole by now and there is nothing to do. I've really seen a big shift in just the past year or 2 that's actually noticeable and it's just people who haven't been here that long that don't notice it.It almost makes me miss Regina and that era
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Stop it, Janny.
This so much.
I‘m at a point that I don’t even want to spend time on /ot/ anymore because it‘s gotten such a ‘if you don’t want to kill every man you’ve ever talked to you cater to the patriarchy and are part of the problem’-mentality that it makes me feel guilty for having a boyfriend or even interacting with men in a non-hostile way.
I’m all for radical feminism and hating men and the patriarchy but damn, there are
other things in life.
And /g/ is slowly starting to go into the same direction.
NTA but I doubt anon meant admin herself is banning people. Now stop with the OT nitpicking.>>10868
Found the newfag.>>10871
I agree with all this. I am just so shocked at how much the site changed in a short time.
I also wish that since we have /snow/ and /w/ that someone fucking moves the threads. We have holly in /snow/ but she claims to draw anime, and that star wars cosplayer should be in /snow/ because cosplay isn't automatically weebshit. I am also extremely weirded out by the general hostility towards other women on the board, which is lightly masked by claims of feminism. Calling someone a "handmaiden" or "pick me" doesn't seem very feminist. I have seen those terms used to try and kill discussion too, or when anons respond with "imagine defending men" to any comment that's not talking about any man negatively.
Also anons who use terms like "scrote" or "handmaiden" automatically sound like unintelligent men whining about "cunts" and "normies", just saying.
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Why?? This thread is a garbage fire most of the time without the mods banning people for having basic conversations. And that's what this was, blogposting is allowed on /ot/. Admin get your weeb ass out of akiba for 5 minutes and hire some mods who aren't 5 years old.
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The Onision threads were really a turn for the worst. I also miss the golden era and I miss being able to be more nitpicky.>>10884
It wasn't my ban but I just cringed at the weird ban reason.
not the oldest user here but i get the sentiment. ive been on lolcow for 5 years, there is a difference no doubt. but at some point its tiring to entertain bullshit posts. nitpicking isnt furthering conversation. its beating a dead horse and fucking annoying. people come in thinking that they have new insight as to why cow is a narc because of insert whatever bloggy reason they think is new and never been stated before. why is it so important that a thread has a new post every two minutes? i would rather something die down until there is new and interesting stuff that comes up.
it absolutely can be lighthearted but idiots are shitting up the place because they feel their personal insight will change the way people view someone and will cowtip til the sun comes up just for a screenshot. seeing someone bitch about being silenced because they believe that their personal experience that coincides with a cow makes them special and exempt from blogging is laughable. trash attracts trash
It's a bad ban imo as well. Blogging isn't an issue on /ot/…>>10890
I'd agree to an extent but then there's mentally ill anons who wanna zoom in on Onion's pores for no reason (we all know he has bad skin) or try to measure his dick size through sweatpants. Ultimately it might be better to have a slower thread than have posts like that populating the discussion.
No. I'd rather have a slow site than a site full of speds who scream about Momokun's "boob vein". It attracts an audience of people who don't have patience for more material and end up getting obsessed with the cow, becoming cows themselves. Most normal people don't want to scroll through 50 "Oh my god she's such a fat fuck look at her drinking that coke in the IG story LMAO" replies, the threads shouldn't be your fucking diary for unfiltered thoughts. I don't know why anyone would WANT nitpicking to be allowed because it's so stupid, like do you really want to see replies whining about someone's ribcage shape or whatever skinwalking autism has been going on in the Dakota thread for the past 5 years? It's not "funny and lighthearted", it's cringeworthy and annoying.>>10889
The people complaining about their bans most likely deserve it, I've been posting here for 5 years and I've never been banned.
>>10903> or have some issue with or suggestion for site content, you should use this thread.
They are. Also this >>10904
. You sure seem like you got your feefees hurt, sorry for being a big mean bully.
So you want admin to start banning certain insults on an image board where women regularly rip other women apart,, because they're not feminist enough?
>You sure seem like you got your feefees hurt
So do you, you sound like you got your feefees hurt so bad after being called a gender based insult/"scrote" that you ran to meta to try and get those words banned sitewide lmfao. Humiliating.
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the Heather Sparkles thread is at it again. this thread seems to get flooded with selfposters almost daily.
I just think that time can't come back since the type of new users that have come in that have no chill at all, and the number of them. Also the cows are posting us to social media pretty often now and attracting throngs of newfags.
Anyway to join in with the other here, I can't stress enough how important it is to purge anyone unironically using the terms scrot, handmaiden, or pick me.
>>10879>Calling someone a "handmaiden" or "pick me" doesn't seem very feminist.
Criticizing behaviors with a label isn't oppressive or anti-feminist.
I'm not a "raging feminist" but even I can identify shitty men and the desperate women who pander to them. Like this anon said >>10912
why do female-dominated sites always have to be tone policed like this? We're not on here because we're polite delicate ladies who care about not offending anyone, we're here for dirty tea.
can't even make a joke about these words without all the seriousposters coming out. good going anons.>>10929
redtext is the obvious solution.
>calls for banning "handmaiden" and "scrote">refers to GC and radfem anons as "you freaks"
Were "handmaiden" and "scrote" used anywhere prior to five years ago?>>10939
Back in the day did you have to walk uphill in the snow both ways to post?
The internet and its culture are, by design, ever rapidly changing and evolving. Witness the internet nostalgia thread. People have been decrying changes in internet culture since the advent of trolls and the invasion of AOHell normies on Usenet in the late 90s.
Why would it go in /manure/? I don't see any reason why it wouldn't belong in /ot/ (or /b/ in this case), as it's general discussion. I'm a long-time user, and I genuinely don't see the problem. Just hide the thread if it triggers
you so much. Personally, I hate the dog hate thread, so I hid the shit and have since moved on.
I feel like the complaints about being called a scrote or handmaiden are pretty overblown, too. Can anyone even link to (or describe with full context) instances where it was actually unfairly used? From what I've seen and experienced, you have to be on some level of bullshit to be accused of being a man or handmaiden.
Anachan and scrote posting still happens, everyone ignores them just fine so maybe try the same and or try reddit. Ban on things like racebaiting nitpicking is because it clogs up threads by being repetitive while never going anywhere, not cuz they hurt feelings and “ruin experience”.
Like this place was made by a bunch of weebs and now it has substantial anti anime sentiment, you don’t see the weebs crying about it as hard as you cry about evil radfems. It’s almost as if we’re not a hive mind. Im not on anonymous imageboard to be nonoffensive apolitical and tone policed tf
You seem to be new to imageboards, maybe try /b/ on 4chan if you think they're "anything goes" lol. We still have rules bb. Anachans and robots got banned because they're fucking annoying
and ruin threads, radfem shit is the new version of that. I always find it funny when 2 or 3 people are complaining about something and then one
anon comes in to say that literally no one complains about it and it doesn't happen. It's always the opposite.
>>10926>why do female-dominated sites always have to be tone policed like this?
stop using shitty buzzwords as insults and maybe they wouldn't? also if you think that male dominated sites don't do this you're fucking retarded. why do all the people who defend annoying crap seem to think that this only happens it's some kind of censorship on women? it wouldn't matter if you were a man or woman the action
is the problem, no matter who's doing it.
I know that. I think it would be a hell of a lot more noticeable if 50%< of the people posting were banned, even if not every ban is redtexted.
I myself didn’t post anything different than other anons and wasn’t banned either.
They’re being incredibly inconsistent and that’s what’s pissing me off. Either ban everyone equally or don’t at all. Picking a few ones and acting like they’re fixing the problem won’t help. Especially with what >>10934
said it makes it impossible to tell what is and isn’t considered nitpicking.
Idk if it was you but whoever raised the point that it's attracting a certain type of user is correct. Even Admin admitted they're aware of the radfem sperg invasion upthread. Redtext (->abusive
) and diligent banning for derailment should sort it out imo but this tiki torch tier FREEDOM OF SPEECH argument about chan culture ain't it.
Thing is, not only do the stupid insults attract spergs, but they also cause derailment bc now you have several anons arguing about whether someone is a scrote or handmaiden when none of that relates to the thread topic. Just on that basis, punishing the buzzwords in some way makes sense.
exactly this. also notice the "muh free speech" anons go quiet about shit they don't like such as nitpicking or anachan posting. shouldn't everyone
have free speech?
I agree with both of you. I think that the FREE SPEECH DONUT SENSOR ME! anons are just the spergs who want to derail and try to shut out conversation, which means it's only free speech for them.
Another thing I've noticed is that more and more anons are getting called men for being a little harsh or not going with the status quo opinion. Not necessarily myself, but often I'll see anons being called scrotes for calling others out for being stupid. it's not a good look.
I've noticed a lot of derailment and unnecessarily harsh edgelord comments too. I remember Lolcow when it was fairly new and it wasn't perfect cause the race bait was annoying but slowly the admins got rid of the race rage monsters and it was pretty good for five minutes. Then back to back to back each phase has been a bit of a mess with bouts of it being decent for a bit. I rarely post or will have phases where I post a little often so I don't really interact with anyone on here much cause I mostly like to read on the bus or something but the recent radfem users and even radfem farmhands make me not even want to bother. I remember the last admin had decided to limit / ban radfem threads and derailment but it's gone completely backwards since this new one came. I remember it got so bad in the last phase that people were saying men couldn't be raped / deserved to be and that little boys should be broken by women before they turn into men and if the crazy derailment and ree'ing doesn't stop anytime soon we'll be right back to that. It's not about radfem not being welcome (even tho I personally am not a fan) but instead that it derails and takes over threads and entire boards and no one can have a conversation or provide information without being called a handmaiden which like the other anon said isn't very feminist especially since the history behind handmaidens/ bedwenches consist of women and little girls being raped by men in power so the narrative doesn't even make any sense regardless of how they're trying to reinvent it. And the only reason why I and other anons call out it not being adherent to feminism is because the keep preaching at everyone about how they are a real feminist.
Tdlr: I agree with everybody else.
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>>10964>Anons complaining in this thread about other anons calling each other men for random ass posts and derailing>Come into /meta/ and call anons men for random shit like liking the food review guy
Addendum: How is the nitpicking in the moo thread any different from the nitpicking in the TND or in the Luna Slater thread?
They constantly make fun of how they look/dress, yet somehow it’s more substantial than when someone does it about moo because she’s fat?
Again: Make up your minds and either allow nitpicking or ban it consequently. I’ll gladly report all
of them, if that’s what you want.
it’s obviously the same fag considering literally every tweet posted has 0 retweets and maybe
1 like if she’s lucky. i think you’re right, it’s selfposting especially since the person also happens to always be logged out.
Why don't you take a break from posting instead of getting so upset by every little insult or label that's thrown rightfully your way?
You're only campaigning against those particular words because you're offended.
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our fucking mods don't even know what "32in waist-chan" is for? if this was banned for necro, then okay, mark it as necro. this is the cringiest ban i have ever seen and it makes the mod who did it seem like a raging fatty considering the thread content.
It seems they are. Its in the pinkpill thread and its completely off topic, so apparenly banning that spergy triggered
OT post means the mod is mad or something.>>10988
and? Its unrelated to the thread, /ot/ isnt a rule free board.
What are you on about. She's having a shitshow on her livestreams, trashed her (ex) husband, and might even have a deportation in the works.
Not every comment is important but the thread is interesting right now. Stop trying to ruin it because you like her.
You aren't alone! I agree with your points.
It's weird. New users seem to be either very angry radfem or tumblr thoughtpolice refugee. Most places on the internet have grown into this weird polarized vibe, and lolcow is no exception. I know that's something that's not easily controlled though, and it's not a complaint, just a thought.
I feel like I'm aging out of the site if only because I get flipped out by posters who think that discourse on the level of something like 'lmao dirty feet kekeke' is acceptable, fun or interesting to read.
I feel alone in that I'd enjoy real conversations - without blogposting, of course. Am I crazy or was this weird type of post where it's cool to sound like an idiot somewhat frowned upon? Feels like the site used to be wittier, more intelligent, and snarkier overall. Disco is sad these days.
>>10986>rightfully banning someone for 15.5 BMIposting on top of necro'ing makes the mod a "raging fatty"
When will ana-chans like you fuck off back to MPA? Stop trying to normalize your mental disease here, because it is
That whole thread was honestly bad, even when it wasn't old as donkey years, and that single necropost served to remind us that we still have some crazy people running around (but thankfully, they are neither entertained or tolerated anymore).
The post was definitely on-topic as far as the thread goes.
The thread itself shouldn't have been on /ot/, it's more /g/ material since that board is anachan and fattychan containment anyway.
Its pretty clear they were banned for the underweight blogpost bit, not the bit discussing body standards, you need to stop moving the goalposts.>Plus, if mods really gave a shit about anachans then multiple threads on /g/ would be nuked by now.
While I agree with your point about the threads on /g/ this thread was on /ot/, not /g/. OT seems to be more heavily modded now since the spamming that happened earlier this year and there are different rules.>>11010
Yeah had it been on /g/ it probably would have flown under the radar and not been reported, I assume because different boards, different rules maybe?
At this point I’m doubting mods are actually doing anything besides scrolling trough random threads and banning whatever post their cursor lands on or something they’re personally offended by.
And I don’t think anyone is even reading this thread besides admin maybe once every four weeks.
Major autism alert for the Mira thread. Can "Anonno7" be put out to pasture, thanks.>>11033
Their vendettas could their minds and make them forget how. Why it came off autosage I'll never know. A year from now they'll still be screeching the same shit about her being deported any minute.
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Genuinely want to know what the fucking problem with this comment is. Not only was it saved but it was on topic. Mods skim a thread and then see “I” thinking it’s a fucking story time. Here mods, lemme give you context since you can’t be assed:
>Cow claims to have no money for necessities much less frivolous things
>somehow has money not only to spend on expensive nail stuff but also can drop it quickly since that collection sold out in minutes
>makes sages post saying collection sold out for me in 3 minutes but cow somehow could still get one
???? Mods are not only ban happy but brain dead to boot. Admin-sama pls reel in your moron mods
calling anons retarded and newfags will not distract from you calling a thread a forum, nail sperg. learning to integrate entails knowing that we collectively dont give a shit about whatever you personally went through that you feel is important to phoebe and any other person talked about on here (if you do frequent others)
take that shit to ot and learn fast that you bring nothing new to the table. get the fuck over yourself.
Your point being? Can't trust those KFarmers, eh?
When the thread was requested I questioned the need since he's been discussed in the GC threads for the last year and it would become a regurgitation of KF. Most of the posts in the thread are mine, and I've made an effort to take my own caps, archive what KF misses, and dig for articles and undiscovered content.
Interestingly our thread is has been higher than the KF thread in Google results.
Not from KF and I contribute as well. Yaniv is a hot topic lately and the reason why a lot of the milk comes from KF is because that's where the milk is dropping. One of the underage girls that he spoke to decided to drop milk there; the fake agent also decided to post there.
Want to give a shoutout to the mod(s) that was keeping watch on the Onion thread last night. Newfags were flooding in and you handled it well.
Nah, haven’t been banned in a while and I agree with most of the bans that people come here to complain about.
It’s just what’s been said several times now: Bans in general got so random that it’s often impossible to tell what’s considered ban-worthy and what isn’t. And again, not talking about obvious blogposts that newfags/retards get worked up about.
And not a single farmhand or admin himself have said a word in weeks.
The entire board is a dumpster fire and they’re enjoying watching everything go to shit.
Admin also said he would add new banners more than a month ago. Nothing happened.
I get if he’s too busy with irl stuff and everything but maybe add some farmhands that aren’t sensitive aspies or special needs kids then.
>>11054>Calls admin he>Claims not to be a newfag
Good try though. Only male admin was the first one.
Farmhands probably don't reply anymore since farmers come here to complain about dumb shit. Why would farmhands reply to some sperg being mad? No one cares about their bpd/feelies about a topic/ blogpost or other random shit. Admin replied way too easily earlier to posters complaining - posters who should be collectively ignored by all farmers.
There is a bug that causes some css changes to take a bit to show up, as well as file uploads with the banners.
If bans seem a bit harsher than usual it's probably the summer heat. Many threads this summer have attracted newfags from twitter and it sucks to moderate that sort of influx. I want to apologize to anyone that's gotten an unfair ban because of half-assed moderation.
Give us suggestions on being better!
As I and others have been saying the whole time:
Be consistent, especially with bans for nitpicking. For example: In the Momokun thread people get banned for talking about her looks when it doesn’t even mention her weight, e.g. her botched lips.
Then there’s the TND thread in which people get to post screenshot over screenshot about how awful her lips look. Latter is a mess in general since there’s been barely anything that would qualify as milk and mostly just people complaining about her looks, tinfoiling, cowtipping, and the list goes on. Not to mention the amount of druggies blogging.
There’s also the Luna Slater thread in which half of the posts are talking about her awful looks.
So basically: Why is talking about one persons looks nitpicking and not milky enough, while in other threads it seems to be common courtesy to rip apart someone’s make up/looks/etc.
And it’s not just that, it’s not even consistent in the same fucking thread. And before the ’but not all bans are redtexted’
anons start ree-ing at me again; talking about my own posts as well, that one day will get banned another they won’t. And also, as I said, most threads only get as many posts because of nitpicking to begin with.
Make up your minds about what is and isn’t nitpicking, be more transparent about said definitions and finally decide wether or not you want to allow it and to what extent. And then act like it.
Then there’s also the whole radfem issue discussion above and random bans related to that. Which… I mean… you could just actually read the thread for once.
>>11062>TND thread in which people get to post screenshot over screenshot about how awful her lips look
that person was redtexted and presumably banned, how is that unfair?>>11060
response times seem kind of slow lately, like there's no-one home for many hours at a time it seems like
I check this thread two times every day.
If gendercrit and pink-pill are merged there will be an uproar, there is too much political sperging happening anyways though so something has to change.
It's not really that different from when /pol/tards started infesting /b/ before it became /ot/.
The TND thread has been spammed by people posting old ass screenshots or in-depth discussions about shit and people that has very little to no relevance to TND herself. Plus the amount of ridiculous nitpicking and blogging.
People get rightfully called out for their bullshit because reporting doesn’t do shit bc none of the mods care.
The mod(s) have plenty of time to throw unfair bans (see above for the complaints about it) but don’t give a shit about the minimodding and bitching everyone else does? It is JUST as annoying as someone posting something retarded.
I believe I rightfully deserve this ban I most likely have from earlier, but the rest of them need to shut the fuck up as well.
“Sage your shit” and “nobody cares anon” and “your tinfoil is wrong” is not contributing to the discussion either. Especially when you read it ten times a day.
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>Venus thread autosaged for lack of milk
>Venus literally livestreamed her own PULL, KF, and LC threads while drunk
Thanks…I missed it because of that decision.
I understand she's got a lot of weeby newfags but can't you give warning statements or bans when the nitpicking gets out of hand?
Regarding the "milk" I don't know what's unfunny about her making an idiot out of herself, but it seems like she gets a lot of special treatment for some reason. You handle that girl with kid gloves compared to others on this website.
It was autosaged weeks ago, sorry about that. I find the venus thread quite milky at the moment so I'll be sure to remove it.
The thread wasn't autosaged for a bit during the buildup to her current breakdown.>>11081
We've had complaints about banning minimods. Minimods are alright if a thread is being littered with newfags or major derailing. I'll make sure staff keeps a closer eye on lazy contributions.
Now if something as bad as >>11085>>11086
stays up entirely unaddressed for 7 hours (and counting) you sure as hell need to do something about your farmhands.
But yeah moderation is fine and summerfags are the only nuisance. lmao
According to the moderation log it's been on/off autosage for the past few months or weeks.>>11085>>11086>>11087
Pretty sure it's a self post from the cow themselves.
I didn't understand that decision either when there're way worse threads on /w (the Western Vocaloid, Pixielocks, Gaijin Gyaru and even the Kelly Jean one…). Idk but maybe some farmhands are butthurt Venus fans? It's getting weird.>>11090
Just throwing my two cents, but maybe it would be better if you were the only one able to autosage?sorry for my bad English
Even if it’s a self post it shows the full name and workplace of a person completely unrelated to anything.
It’s also still information that not even the patient itself should have access to, even if it was a self post.
It just opens way too many doors for other people to publish shit that shouldn’t be made public.
While the derailing is just as annoying as it is amusing due to it‘s high-school vibes, I agree that there has to be done something to stop the shit OP‘s.
We‘ve had two (or three?) really shitty ones that scream newfag in a row, the current one even before the last thread was locked despite the lack of anything that would even call for a new thread as rushed.
I mean, at least this Anon knows how to greentext but in the end that doesn’t make up for the garbage summary.
I feel like there's been recent uptick in racebait in general, and I wish it'd be curtailed.
It really only attracts the shittiest kinds of people.
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I almost want them to autosage that thread or get rid of it entirely. It’s too fucking shitty. First it’s racebait shit, then it’s radfem stuff which is okay but why I’m that thread?
An obvious samefag? Everyone has been sick of the anons who sperg about fujos for weeks. You were supposed to keep that shit inside the anti fujo thread.
>Those kind of paranoid "you're all samefags" anons (who are usually obvious samefags themselves)
Yes there is, you fucking retard >>>/ot/227162
This has been brought up on meta before, that's a containment thread.
Chill the fuck out already. You bring up fujos in every goddamn thread and go around with circular, provocative arguments, then throw a shitfit when people don't agree with you. >FUJOS ARE DISGUSTING MISOGYNISTIC PEDOPHILES>Not one part of that is based on a fact, also this is the employment/career thread>REEEEEEE ADMINS BAN THESE FEMCELS
I don't even get what's your problem, are you underage and only hanging around unhinged 16 year olds?
oh okay i got confused, sorry (little hungover) i wasn't advocating for fujos to be banned in general, i just think that they (and anyone) who tries to snuff out conversation with shit like well, >>11127
should get a ban for atleast a few days. i hate any user that derails thread defending themselves or what's being talked about, but i've just been noticing fujos a lot lately. a few months ago it was those dog-hating anons who would shit up any thread that mentioned dogs.
i'm really annoyed at this overall shift that the site, especially /ot/, is having of "you can't shit on anything that women do that men also shit on!". it's really becoming glaringly obvious that's what is happening. even in the kinkshaming a lot of users get butthurt every time someone mentions women's kinks. it's really bizarre and kind of grating.
This, at some point some anon was trying to derail like every active thread in /ot/ to complain about fujos by some retarded far-fetched association to the point it seemed like a scrote trying to bait. You don't have to be one yourself to find that spergy and annoying, I don't know what anon expected when you purposefully go pick a fight and then get hit. It would be just as annoying if it was any other subject matter, like calling all dog owners degenerate furries who rape puppies and hate cats.
And to top it all off coming to /meta/ like a baby to demand admin to ban these people because someone told you off like the tranny lackeys who were crying over people laughing at them for using snowflake pronouns. Pathetic. Go to PULL or some other hugbox where your opinion won't be challenged.
they really haven't. and that's not what containment threads are. no one is banned about shitting on shitty fujos in other threads. >>11139
this insane tinfoil that only one person on the site doesn't like fujoshi isn't a good look.
But your insane tinfoil that there's only one anon who tells anti fujo spergs to fuck off is valid
? Kek retard
Look, I agree but you can't 100% guarantee that she won't. If you want to make criticisms do it after this simmmers down. >>11133
Yeah /int/ didn't work out last time but I'm all for /int/ threads like the German Lolita thread and Brazil thread.
I'm probably going to start scouting out more mods again, but not through applications.
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Not the OP of pic related thread, but I'm kind of confused about where we stand on Zoe Quinn? I was hoping to see some discussion/summary of the recent events, but this thread seemed to be immediately locked. But also the old Zoe Quinn thread in /pt/ has been dead for over a year, hasn't been updated since recent events, and appears to be kind of a giant mess from 3 years ago. Why can't we have a new Zoe thread in /snow/?
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and cap because why not
For context, my comment here was directed Dev, until very recently a high-paying patron of Greg's and also a confidant to an extent, who was posting a stream of pressuring tweets directed at Sarah. All the people who are looking for an excuse for their support of Greg are using Sarah not going to the police as their "out". At the time, Sarah had clearly said all sexual contact was after her 18th birthday. I was calling out Dev's harassment of Sarah in this comment. I do actually read the threads before I post btw, despite this snarky ban message suggesting otherwise.
Yeah, it's pretty annoying. I think the "concerned mom" is a farmer because I saw some of her tweets about the ProJared situation and like with Sarah, there's someone in that thread that keeps saying that Heidi should stay quiet and get a lawyer. I think it might be her?
Another anon mentioned possibly banning lawfags and I think it might be a good idea, at least while Sarah's spilling milk. She seems to still be a bit scared to deal with police and I'm afraid that it'll scare her away. The lawfagging has also spilled into the ProJared thread.
I see the problem here. I'll be sure to clear old reports that are past their expiration date because sometimes it's not even worth the warning or ban.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
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is this what that is now? really? derailing sure, but this isn't just a 3-4 hour ban it was 24 hours. what the hell is wrong with you guys?
There's been a few arguments of people saying that it's Venus's fault that older men have tried to date her/ did when she was underaged. The most recent example was when the whole Yan thing got brought up again. The thread usually argues about that, then argues about if she's exactly like her mom, then argues on who is a Stan and who isn't, then talks about her being a drunk, and then cycles all over again. At one point they were calling a grown man who had a crush on a 12 year old online a victim
and when people pointed it out they ree'd about stans. I don't post in that thread but sometimes I read through it and it's become impossible to read through again.
>>11190>Anons justifying older men who tried to date her>The most recent example was when the whole Yan thing got brought up again.
Screenshot or you're hyperbolizing this. No one in that thread said Yan wasn't a creep and the people that did discuss their drama faulted Margo for trying to sell out her daughter to Japanese men in the hopes for visas. Which was precisely the case.
There would be no cyclic arguing in that thread if whiteknights weren't constantly trying to stan her over and over about the same things.
So maybe that ought to be addressed, because afaik no other thread on this website has ever tolerated fans defending cows to this extent. It's ridiculous. They can't even say that she's being irresponsible without a stan chiming in to excuse it under ~mental illness~ thinking that's the coup de grâce to get anons to shut up about someone they like over an issue they're sensitive about.
You're on a website that leans towards being harsh on pedos and particularly males so I don't know what you've seen but I don't believe there would be an outpouring of anons supporting a grown man trying to date a 12 year old. No.
I’ve been saying this for a while now, but no one cares to address it.
People will legitimately go off on Luna Slater’s makeup for several threads but one person makes fun of Moo‘s botched surgeries they‘ll get randomly banned (after 10 anons doing exactly the same that suffer zero consequences).
It‘s literally impossible to tell what’s okay and what isn’t and once you post here trying to figure out where’s the line (which seems to be a sinusoid anyway) you’ll only get a few random cunts saying ‘not all bans are redtexted newfag’ or, like in your case, ‘the ban was justified lmao’, even if you’re not complaining about a particular ban.
your unhealthy obsession with anime porn figures is showing. You were sperging about that before anyone posted this kind of crap to the thread.
Use the toy thread and move on, the mods don't care
They wanted the troon hating to occur in a different thread to avoid derailment since it's kind of a different topic. Lainey doesn't have her own thread anyway, she's in the fakeboi one as long as your comment pertains to her fake gender. If the post is gonna talk about her as a groomer and as onion's wife, then it goes in the /pt/ thread.
Not the best way to deal with people nitpicking her dumb gender but that's the situation rn.
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I agree that the bans are getting a bit crazy. They should probably just do a hellweek, to be honest.>>11198
She does have her own thread.
This is a good point.>>11185
Did you appeal this?>>11193
She has her own thread because discussing her in the onion thread was just an excuse to nitpick over fakeboi shit and her eyebrows.
As mentioned before she can be discussed on the onion thread if it pertains to onision, which saragate does. So there should be no issue.>>11194
Toys and dolls are not media lmao>>11195
You have no idea how disappointed I was when I saw bodyfat nitpicking in your post history right now.>>11196
You're probably right but there are rarely reports from that thread. I'll personally start checking up on it more often.>>11201>Not to mention that trying to ban nitpicking on a gossip website is retarded in the first place.
Nitpicking, tinfoiling, and derailing happen in all threads. We're only here to keep it in check.
I'm sorry but I don't get paid enough (AT ALL) to deal with 2000+ posts of vaginal analysis and the works.
And even if it’s (more or less) clearly defined, it still seems so ambivalent i.e. in the Moo thread.
Obviously it’s stated that solely commenting on her weight is not a valuable contribution. However, every single one of her threads lives off people posting unflattering pictures of her to point out how fat she is, people discussing her weight and fat distribution, her OP pics literally being the one that’s the most unflattering etc. without any of it resulting in a ban.
So… which is it? Is discussing her weight okay or nah? Apparently there seems to be a line and where it is solely depends on who’s moderating it at the time, it seems.
However, which leads back to what >>11201
said which is that banning nitpicking in general on a gossip board seems contradictory.
>We're only here to keep it in check.
There’s no point in it if it seems completely random because nobody will be able to learn from their mistakes if it’s not defined what certified as one.
I have a small gripe about the onion threads, that I think when a post gets someone banned, it should always be redtexted so people can see what's qualifying for a ban.
Not salty, I just honestly don't understand the 2 bans I got in the last couple of days and think if other anon's similar comments were marked as banned or not, I could figure out the pattern and stop… whatever.
Then maybe you should try to be a less idiotic admin and read the context of the post if you’re gonna assume it was nitpicking. Someone asked a question and we discussed it. It was part of a discussion on a discussion board. Hardly seems like nitpicking but I guess it does show that you train your mods to be this autistic and it’s not them just being rogue. Lots of people are posting they got bans for stupid shit and you double down. I almost, almost miss the old useless admin over this shit. You call my comment nitpicking but didn’t red text it as such so is it nitpicking or are you just butthurt?
Provide us clear cut examples of nitpicking and have all farmhands strictly enforcing it instead of picking and choosing what they enforce and where and we can fucking adhere to it better. Asking us to read your minds about what is nitpicking is useless, we don’t know why you want or consider not ok to post Jesus fucking Christ
I made this post because I've been seeing days of talking about Maria's boring ass.
This obvious self posting was just going on freely.
She'd been outed once and then it was like no one gave a fuck she was back self posting.
Like I said nitpicking happens in all threads and moo is similar to shingles because they're both physical trainwrecks.
If there is a ban you disagree with appeal it
. It makes it easier for me to keep track of trends in complaints and the types of vague bans I want to fix.>There’s no point in it if it seems completely random because nobody will be able to learn from their mistakes if it’s not defined what certified as one.
What do you suggest? Nitpicking is different in every thread. Of course the mods have to decide if it warrants a ban and that opinion is going to vary.>>11209
I'm sorry about this and you're right about the inconsistency in bans this week. I reversed some unfair bans and dealt with the moderators behind it so it shouldn't be an issue anymore.>>11214>>11215
It's obvious she self posts but anons keep entertaining her.
stop pointing out the obvious. There is so much to talk about Moo besides every 50 comments in 'wow she's fat" "wow her hair looks like shit" "her legs are so veiny and her tits". You have to be a dumbass to not know what a nitpick is and so many people have pointed it out.
Dont come into the Moo thread to just comment on her appearence. I see it as a good thing when sets or bad photoshops happen, but you don't need to repeat the same shit 40 other anons said and that doesn't have to include the crappy nitpicks about how big she is. Comment on the busting out of the clothing because she doesn't know how to tell seamstresses real measurements. Say something about the commission, but when you nitpick stupid stuff like 'wow her's cockeyed in thsi photo' its useless and no one is saging barely in the Moo thread to begin with.
I honestly think all the nitpick and tinfoil and armochair doctor posts need the bans. We have an anon who keeps samefagging too and keeps coming back. The thread is a mess and we don't need nitpicks because of slow milk.
Would be hard to prove due to all the tools one can use to spoof location but maybe some anons autistic enough to analyze the typing style with references to previous texts he has posted on his social media could speculate…
It's either him or a big fan, though. I don't think any troll would be interested in coming here to WK him as an epic meme. He's so unpopular.
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Requesting Lillee Jean & Laur be moved to /pt/. The call-out drama is peaking, and Laur is headed towards a breakdown or a booting from the Internet or both. The thread is wall to wall receipts, the most of any site discussing her. There's no drama between farmers. And the thread has been visited by the cow herself and her orbiters; she trolls us with media referencing what has been said in the thread but hilariously badly. Isn't that right, Crazy Eyes?
Her thread seems good to me as well, she is constantly
doing weird shit to gawk at. /pt/ seems like a worthy place for her.
Trolls do shit during the peak milk times though. Everyone is waiting to see if the cunt is getting arrested and I could totally see a bored troll doing something like this to get something happening.
I wish there was some way to find out
At the same time we have just as much milk coming from their pasts since she's a brand new cow.
Never in my wildest did I think we'd get a cow to surpass Raven in manipulation of and through SM. Torch passed.
There are too many individual bait-taking retards to report but some mod attention over there would be good. People are just responding to bait, regardless of who is posting it.
Your sentence doesn't read clearly but I think you're talking about how in some states the minor sending their own nudes can be charged with a CP distribution offense. It may or may not scare off the victims
but they should know that there is a risk that they can get themselves in legal trouble. I would imagine any judge worth their salt wouldn't pursue a charge like that against the teen girls Onion groomed, but who the fuck can really tell? I think the best move for those girls is to set up a gofundme type dealio and get $ to talk to a lawyer. If they don't have a case according to a professional. Then it's probably best they don't all self-implicate further.
Sorry about that, I was referring to the victims
reading it here and deciding to clam up because they don't want to get into any legal trouble. Sarah temporarily did when someone tipped off the police without her permission. On top of that, lawfagging is a bannable offense in the thread at the moment but I'm more concerned about the teenage victims
getting scared since it seems like some of them did send nudes.
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I reported these comments as doubleposting. This anon has a distinct style of quoting and double/multi-posting I have reported before. I received a ban stating, "Double posting is a technical error."
The technical error yields identical comments. Do these comments look identical to you, farmhand?
Admin, hire staff who are not blind.
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How is the RF thread problematic? It was created by request after the last Town Hall.
Why are you forcing RF into GC? While RF is GC, GC is not RF.
They most likely misunderstood since some anons use doubleposting to refer to the actual error>>11245
It attracts too much political infighting on the board overall.
I took the advice of your own moderators for those threads so this isn't my sole decision.
How has the RF thread attracted political infighting when most anons probably don't even know it exists? The RF thread has had 6 posts in two days. How will locking a rarely used thread reduce site-wide political infighting?
The RF thread was requested by anons who attended the Town Hall. It wasn't created by new users bringing RF views to the site.
LC is the rare site that allows women to express themselves freely. Have you considered the shift in site culture is reflective of shifts in overall internet culture? When mainstream Internet becomes Draconian, sites that allow free expression are a refuge. LC is one of very few places where women can express views that run contrary to the tenets of Second Wave Feminism, but those views are not inherently RF.
>your own moderators
You say this as if thread mods answer to and represent, let alone communicate with, users of the thread.>>11247
Double/multi-posting is against the rules for a reason.
You were banned for bragging about being the male OP of a thread.
Maybe you should familiarize yourself with the rules.
Interesting. I would think that would happen way less often than it does, though. Isn't there like, endless IP's to cycle through?
Thanks for the info tho
Because they are useless, if you actually read this entire thread you would see where a lot of the complaint are aimed. >Sperg>Sperging
Widen your vocabulary, you're boring and sound a bit thick. No one asked for your opinion any how.
Why force the GC thread rather than the PP thread to become the de facto Feminism General thread when the PP thread is for all topics?
The GC thread has earned recognition on other sites as a place for discussion of GC free of RF.
The GC thread has very high traffic already, and each successive thread fills faster; the current thread filled up in 15 days. Finding posts in previous threads is already arduous enough with a single topic.
Can there please be something done about the Umbran-posting in the Momokun thread? There’s a calves thread for a reason. Shit like >>>/pt/700503>>>/pt/700506>>>/pt/700636
Contributes just as little as ‘wow she fat’ and always promts a series of ‘she’s so crazy and creepy’ posts.
Thanks for the breakdown, it was very helpful. >>11259
I don't even need to appeal the bans bc they're expired by the time I make a post and get the alert (so far). Plus it's bullshit amd I shouldn't habe to appeal bans all the time that aren't mine…>>11261
You're replying to the wrong anon but I will certainly explain this next time it happens!
Thanks again for the info guys
From what I've seen so far, political means discussions on race and discussions on countries. These discussions involve lots of stereotyping on all sides.
I'll wait to see the official answer. I would like to talk about actual politics with the US election coming up but that's definitely out of the question. People get too aggressive and rude. If we just respected other posters views it would be fine. I understand the demographic is probably young because it's the internet and maybe they are more fiery and less tactful.
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What dumbass train of thought happened for this to be considered a good idea
Good luck with all the inevitable infighting.
Seriously, I don’t really get why this was done. Especially because /ot is kinda dead without those threads anyways.
Radfem doesn't mean GC and GC definitely doesn’t mean PP.
The infighting is gonna get out of control
Plain reposting without commenting isn’t really any interaction worth mentioning though imo and after pointing it out and being called off the last time, I left it uncommented. But there have been other anons saying the same thing so yeah, it’s not just me.
We know Umbran is obsessed with her and she’s mental. What would these possibly contribute to the discussion?
Her drawings etc I can see, even though the tinfoiling is a bit much imo but there’s at least something to discuss.
To be honest, lolcow has been kinda going down since the last admin change.
And its 50% because i feel we got a new, younger user base and 50% because the mods make awful decisions nowadays
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Holy fucking shit, this seems like a pre-meditated attempt to get rid of all involved threads when they inevitably derail into massive clusterfucks. I cant see any other reason for this, its just the worst decision possible, lmao.
You seem annoying >>11292
Seconded, what’s allowed now? Just saying political topics are banned is a little vague
we don't want GC to be feminist though, that's what the issue was. combining the radfem and pinkpill shit is fine, we just want to have a thread like fakebois do on /snow/. having a troon general without
muh feminism is what we'd like.
Is all GC stuff allowed in there? For example, talking about FtMs or "non-binary" women. That wouldn't fall under misandry, so is it banned?
You guys seriously need to give us clarity on this if you're going to make such a big change.
NuPP will be mainly for misandry AND troon hate. Other feminism stuff is still technically allowed in there too but radfems are encouraged to go back to wherever they came from haha… Their kind isn't really wanted here.>>11299>>11297
A mod is working on a /snow/ thread for TIMs right now.
Oh wow, thats quiet radical
of you to say
So you're bringing back the transpassing thread >>>/ot/214811
but disallowing gender critical discussion within that thread, even thought that was its evolution two years ago?
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>>11303>agree with me or you're a man
This is exactly why your ilk need to fuck off back to reddit, this is becoming the femcel abode.
It's not just the new mods, anon. No one has ever liked the radfems besides themselves.>>11306
Not necessarily. The /snow/ thread is going to be a TIM version of the fakeboi thread.>>11309
Do you mean that you will not necessarily disallow GC discussion in the TiM thread? Then why shut down the GC thread?
It's as if Admin and mods are completely ignorant of the history of the GC thread.
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Thank you for making me laugh when I am now so sad. Everyone can agree on a little gaze therapy.
You're still not giving us clarity, mods.
Is GC allowed in the Pink Pill thread, since there's now a snow thread for MtFs?
Is feminism allowed if it's not radfem? If so, where do you draw the line? Is anti-sex work talk allowed or is that too radical? How about criticizing gender roles, is that too radical? If you want us to keep to the rules you need to lay out what the rules are. We're not mind readers.
admin hasn't posted since >>11254
. usually she's the one who makes these posts. why is a farmhand doing it?
prolly cause it's 1am in the nihon.>>11325
ty friendly farmhand!
Did the Admin
decide this are did all the Farmhands?
Please answer the questions I asked earlier:
>Is feminism allowed if it's not radfem? If so, where do you draw the line? Is anti-sex work talk allowed or is that too radical? How about criticizing gender roles, is that too radical? If you want us to keep to the rules you need to lay out what the rules are. We're not mind readers.
Clarity would be appreciated.
The snow thread is a a MtF general that follows the rules of /snow/, post drama about cows, it will not be for GC ranting unless it pertains to what the cow has said. If you want to rant about GC ideals take it to the pinkpill thread.
For the second part, we will need to further discuss to make sure things are more clear for you guys.
>>11348>so they should definitely be merged.
You are very wrong, i don't ever go into radfem because i am not represented by them. You don't have to be a marxist zealot to be critical of troons.
only some GC are radfems and the radfem politics are to be discussed on their own thread anyways.
Several people, especially ITT have criticized the radfem infestation of /ot/ and slowly /g/ as well and it’s slowly becoming impossible to post literally anything anywhere that’s not 100% correlating with radfem ideology without being called a man or handmaiden.
Trying to get rid of radfem sperging is an improvement, although the merging is not an ideal approach.
>rant about GC ideals
Could you be any more patronizing? GC is about much more than hating troons and "ranting about ideals". For example, are PP anons going to welcome TiF detransitioners? That is, if they even feel comfortable enough to approach the thread?
If you (admin and mods) agree that GC anons are welcome on LC and recognize that GC is not RF, why are you reprimanding the greater GC group for the transgressions of a few RF anons?
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I'm confused. So, radfems are considered the problem, rather than GC, but GC threads are no longer allowed? How come? Shouldn't sniping the radfem generals have solved the problem? What have standalone GC threads done to worsen the board, and what are the site-wide benefits of consolidating them with Pink Pill threads (even though the audiences for both are quite different)?
Even if the goal is to make /ot/ less political overall, pretty much all the GC stuff stayed within its designated thread without derailing others, anyway. About the only exception I've seen is when people were like "Lol you're calling him a she?" or "Lainey/Kai is obviously a woman, not even going to entertain this shit" in the 4Lung, Laineybot or other /snow/ threads having to do with trannies, and even that mostly died down after anons were sternly told to chill out.
Also, to reiterate another anon's question, how would complaining about FtM/TiF stuff fit into a pink pill thread, considering that PP is man hate, and being FtM kind of means being a woman? You've already highlighted that GC derailing isn't allowed in the fakeboi /snow/ thread, so it can't really be delegated there.
It seems like this decision was pushed out too quickly, and without much explanation to the userbase.
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Can't you just ignore the posts? Why the fuck do you need certain threads and topics literally censored?
Is the average farmer here so intellectually inept and so awful at resisting bait that it has to be this way?
Or is more the fact the admin/mods/spergs can't handle the newfags and it's just easier to ban anything that causes even the tiniest of arguing?
Might as well cancel the tradthot thread, shoeonhead's, breadtube, and whatever political leaning topic/cow, might cause some discomfort for our dear newfags.
I find it curious that as soon as the RF thread was closed and we began protesting the merge of RF and GC an argument over sex work ignited in , the likes of which has not been seen in RF. It's almost as if the drama was manufactured in order to make the GC thread appear problematic
and reason to shut it down.
GC isn't necessarily a radfem concept. A farmhand confirmed this, and also that GC is welcome here in >>11311
.>>So GC anons are welcome, then, because GC is not inherently RF.>Yes
In current year GC is hardly the sole domain of RF. Anyone, regardless of sex or politics, can be GC.
The GC thread was created 19 months ago because
anons wanted a place to discuss GC beyond the scope of the Transpassing and Fake Boi threads.
>no troons in my country
Not yet, anyway.
And the GC thread was far more than idle keyboard warrioring. It had one of the most comprehensive resource lists of all the GC forums, for starters.The personal is the political.
Opinions can change.>>11379>if you guys have taught me anything about radical feminism it's that all of you are unsound and just want a matriarchal society
You are a man right? No woman ever makes these ridiculous pressumptions. Not taht it wouldn't be a million times better tha a patriarchical one, but we want a true egalitarian society. You apparently don't care about it, I am sure your Nigel is taking good care of you, until he leaves you that is.>>11381
I put my country first and try to help the people here to begin with. Everyone does the same and so do I. Also you are so so mistaken, your status is in fact lower than poor men, simply due to your gender, that's how patriarchies work.
But why is a random farmhand saying this, why isn't Admin
saying this serious decision?
imagine an extremist thinking that her brand of extremism wants equality.
again, you clearly don't understand how the world works if you think any of the stuff you're saying is beyond a silly ideal. listen to >>11386
and stop arguing, you might learn something if you do.
>this site is about drama
Then why does it have /ot/ and /m/?
>so angry about being silenced on a shitty weeaboo dramu site
GC is not RF. GC discussion is deplatformed on the majority of the Internet. The GC thread was a rare space.
>>11387>wanting to improve women's and girl's lives is extremist
You don't know what an extremist is.>>11386>>11389
They ruined a general I had close to my heart anon, I am sorry but I really needed to vent and I wanted them to see it. You are of course right, it is ultimately pointless, not that I expect them to actualy answer any of the serious questions.
/ot/ and /m/ are for lighthearted discussion. you guys can make your own space
but this ain't it.
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Where the fuck does it say that in the rules OR the general board culture? Are you sure you're supposed to be here
and not CC?
I'm hoping they don't ignore it. If they recognize that GC =/= radfem, they have to see the contradiction here. Random anons who personally can't tell the difference because they haven't been paying attention don't really matter, because even the farmhands have admitted the two aren't the same.
We need them to explain the reasoning behind the ban and how it actually helps this place, because as it is, it seems like it wasn't thought out very well. From a hypothetical standpoint, it could actually just muddy things and make the pink pill thread hard to comb through or moderate.
the person i'm talking to isn't talking about GC, they're talking about radical feminism specifically. learn to read. i know it's hard to follow because they keep moving goalposts, but they started talking about being radfem.
GC attracted radfems to the site so it's obviously something that needs to go to get rid of them, and much of the politics regarding troons revolved around radfem views on the patriarchy. you act like i didn't use those threads. there was no room for conversations about troons without having a radfem view attached.
What conversations about troons do you fucking need that you can't get from literally the other 99.9% of the internet?
You think talking about gender roles and biological sex is fucking political and inherently and exclusively radfem?
Go the fuck back to Twitter you absolute retard.
radfems actually aren't pro-conscription, anon.
> Beginning in the 1970s, "liberal feminists" have argued in favor of extending conscription to women, taking the position that "the best way to insure women's equal treatment with men is to render them equally vulnerable with men to the political will of the state". Radical and pacifists feminists have disagreed, however, contending that "by integrating into existing power structures including military forces and the war system without changing them, women merely prop up a male-dominated world instead of transforming it". There were disagreements between liberal advocates for women's equality and radical and pacifist feminists both in 1980 and again in 2016 on whether women should be included in draft registration or draft registration should be opposed for women and men.
fuck this really just outlines what i hate about serious conversations on this site. so many people literally have no idea what the hell they're talking about and like to talk like they're saving the world.>>11402
boohoo, go find another website, it's more than obvious you're not welcome kek.
jesus can you just admit you're wrong? i don't agree with radfems and even i can understand that they don't want to be included in something that they view as a patriarchal system unless it has been extremely reworked. you're not a radfem, you're just a confused ESL who doesn't understand it's main tenets and thinks that it's some special snowflake belief that no one understands.
radical feminism is like the keto diet blaming a small cause for the entire issue.
Rule 2 is violated quite often because of redditors who think lolcow is r/gendercritical>>11388
You can talk about radical feminism and gender related discourse in pink-pill.
I don't get why it's a problem unless the anons from the three threads see each other as insufferable.
That's the real irony, the rest of the userbase finds them all insufferable.
Thinking that you're entitled to one thread just to sperg about troons,while having another to sperg about handmaidens, another to discuss MORE radfem ideology, and having a man-hate thread is over the top. Anons clearly haven't learned to stick to their containment and continue to attack anons globally if they don't agree with their politics. So instead of 3 awful containment threads you can have one and one only.
so radfem talk isn't banned then? because the farmhand earlier said it was.
i really want clarity on this, admin. just give us a straight answer:
1. is radfem discussion allowed in the pink pill thread? yes or no?
2. what, specifically, constitutes radfem talk? it's not like the lines between radical feminism and other types are clearly drawn, there's all sorts of overlap.
Dude, she clearly just said >You can talk about radical feminism and gender related discourse in pink-pill.
Now fuck off there and stop whining. I can't wait till she just deletes that too and you guys fuck off for good.
t. pickme>>11406>Rule 2 is violated quite often because of redditors who think lolcow is r/gendercritical
How many users do you actually have to ban in a given thread/day on /ot/? Is it seriously that much where it's more overwhelming than say, PnPs shitfire dumpster thread or literally almost ANY female cow?
Either you're being way too lenient with repeat offenders and giving too short of bans or the newfags are too much for your team and the team is letting the site simply decay and become subverted.
1) Yes radfem discussion is allowed in pink-pill
2) You can discuss any
sort of gender discourse in that thread. It doesn't need to be 100% radfem.>>11411>How many users do you actually have to ban in a given thread/day on /ot/
Quite a bit, it's part of the reason why we have /ot/ and /g/ dedicated farmhands and janitors now.
In the meantime, I'll continue to laugh at the neurotic anons placing my words through "gender filters".
-no new mods or janitors have been added
-i'm not even a huwhite woman
-I'm going back to sleep
EDIT: I don't run this place like crystal cafe, we don't have /r9k/ e-boyfriends that we give our passwords to kek
Lolcow is 100% run and powered by various females all over the autistic spectrum.
Was the GC thread home to more violations than other threads in /ot/?
I am disappointed that you reduce the GC thread to "sperging about troons" when it encompasses so much more.
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>>11412>Quite a bit
I have a feeling there will be a lot more coming up soon.
CLEAN IT UP JANNIES
>>11406>the rest of the userbase finds them all insufferable
But who is that?
Many farmers on /pt/, /snow/, /m/ and /w/ say that they don't even visit /ot/, /g/ is very slow and the by far most popular threads on /ot/ were the vent threads and the ones you're against, the ones that are supposedly hated by so many.
Most of the users of /ot/ seem to be either radfem or gc or both, so why care what anons who don't even go there say?
clearly enough farmers go to /snow/ and /pt/ for there to be a noticeable amount of pronoun policing and troon derailing. why are you taking the words of random anonymous farmers as proof instead of listening to what the farmhands are saying? or you know… looking at snow and pt threads yourself. you could find the proof and explanation there easily.
radfemfags confirmed lazy
The complaining about pronouns thing is the only stuff that ever gets brought up on meta, this alone shouldn't be reason enough to just lock everything.>>11422
Is that supposed to be an insult? I avoid /snow/ and /pt/ because I find nitpicking the same physical flaws on dozens of camgirls and costhots again and again very repetitive and boring. Judging by the complaints on meta Moo's threads and the likes are supposedly very autistic, should I campaign for them to be banned too, since afterall I don't like that? No, because I can simply stay away from shit I don't care about, like anybody else should do as well.
not them but there's like gazillion threads what should they be looking from also why the fuck are you so afraid to give them an answer
like you actually don't have one or what's the problem
or because you actually don't have an answer if the problem is so widespread as you say it shouldn't take you too long to bring up examples you brough up by yourself in the first place, moron
i lurk snow and pt and at least i haven't noticed radfem sperging on the threads i lurk, to me it has been mostly a /ot/ problem in vent etc threads
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All I see is this. Get a grip people.
>>11293>>11300>moving all this stuff into one big containment thread>misandry AND troon hate.
Why can't the gender critical thread just given stricter rules, in the same way that many threads have done before? Gendercritical and radfem aren't the same topic, it'll just erupt into pure infighting.
I understand there is lots of mean spirited content in the GC thread that give lolcow a reputation that the farmhands don't want but plenty of anons have come into those threads to discuss the difficulties of a transitioning friend or sibling or their own gender issues. There are valid
conversations about gender identity and the debate about the age of consent for GRS etc. Not everyone in that thread is radfem, and the thread isn't only about hating men.
Just make it a rule that conversation has to constructive and relevant to the discussion instead of nitpicks?>>11406>the rest of the userbase finds them all insufferable
If the radfem thread disappeared I would at least understand this line of thinking, but instead the gender critical thread disappears at the same time as a transpassing thread is added, and no 'radfem behavior' is banned. No shade, I just don't understand this strategy unless you're trying to make radfem and libfem anons have a helterskelter over the ashes of the GC thread.
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>>11442>It was started by a man
So you finally admit it was about the fag scrot mod's shitty feelings(ban evasion)
>>11445>image board for gossiping about weebs
I don’t understand this argument, the site has obviously evolved beyond that; the front page of /snow is constantly filled with camwhores slapping each others tits or nitpicking genitals, making fun of anorexics, for a good while Holly was frequently getting bumped, the weebiest shit I’ve come across recently are the endless kpop threads
We have many threads and topics that constantly cause reeeing, don’t see why it was feminism that was singled out - are we going to ban all discussion of retard fujos next since that inevitably turns into a shitfest?
Thank you! This makes me so much more optimistic about LC, and it makes me feel better about being a farmer.
Radfem and GC themes did permeate throughout the site. I think radfemanons may honestly be ignorant of that. LC weaned off Belle Delphine for largely that reason. GC anons who flipped their shit about pronouns did back off. That’s great, but it doesn’t mean they assimilated. Some non-GC/ambivalent farmers talk around muh-vaginanons’ pronoun rules, which accounts for at least some of the quiet.>>11373
Have you considered making your point using condescension? /s Blogging isn’t allowed, and with good reason. We can’t compare lists of ways in which we’ve each helped to change policies, etc. Even so, you do understand that being radical is not a prerequisite for improving the lives of women? >>11384
And they say that hiding the GC/radfem threads would solved the problem, kek. Here we have someone espousing talking points in the site complaint thread of all places.
Many or most farmers are feminists. There are probably even radfem farmers that just don’t hold salons where they read gossip. If you have nowhere else to discuss women’s issues, it could just be you.
Sorry, was holding in complaints for so long and am just really happy about this change.
This is very transparent, idc what excuses you guys have for all of this shitshow, it's all very, very suspicious. Radfems are derailing/being annoying? Fine, delete the radfem general and ban femcel sperging longer but why delete the GC thread? It makes no sense unless mods are literal troons, that was a popular thread and as far as I know it didn't cause lots of derailing, so why focus on it? That's the weird part, only troons would have a problem not only with radfem but specifically GC topics of fucking course, and they're so salty about it they think its basically the same as "manhate". Ignoring the extremely passive-aggressive mtf thread who nobody gives a fuck outside some troons dissing each other and mods weird ass actitudes towards anons it seems pretty obvious wtf is going on here.
You guys aren't stupid, you know damn well what happens when you ban GC topics or discussions from a site, you are literally inviting troons to come in since this site is "terf free" now.
You guys thought radfems were """insufferable"""? Lol you haven't seen shit, this is going to get interesting (and sad, rip lolcow).
I don't know whether or not the mods are trannies, but assuming this is actually not some great hon conspiracy, I just don't see their point here. I don't even mind that the radfem threads are gone, so this isn't some "TRIGGERED
radfem DESTROYED" shit.
I just don't understand why GC threads were targeted when they aren't even the problem. This is about radfem sperging, yes? So, why is GC being punished? The two are not necessarily the same, and even they know it. They agreed that GC discussion is welcome here.
If the GC thread is also
so bad that it's wrecked other boards and threads (which I haven't seen proof of, besides the pronoun sperging from months back, but okay), why not just continue banning those who do it and tell them to take it to their thread? How does squeezing it all into one thread solve the matter?
>>11300>but radfems are encouraged to go back to wherever they came from haha… Their kind isn't really wanted here.
just saying, this is dumb because i grew up on the chans and know multiple women who have grown up on the chans that became radfems organically after having been exposed to how "men really are" and transgenderism forced down their throats. they naturally came across radical feminism and are radfem or radfem aligned. the radfem sentiment on the site is, i think, genuinely shared by women and girls who naturally have been on imageboards for a long time and have been exposed to a lot of misogyny and came across rf stuff thanks to the rise of tranny shit, ironically.
maybe i'm wrong, but the assumption that all radfem aligned women on lolcow are 45 year olds from radfem twitter or something is, i think, wrong. i've been here for many many years and it's not like everyone here is a rf plant or something. some people are og farmers from the beginning or from staminarose who believe different things now vs many years ago, also
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how upsetting is it for you guys that you'll never get your thread back no matter how many times you call mods/admin men and troons
if they want this place to devolve into a tranny space, let them. The actual women will move elsewhere, again. Trannys will never be welcomed into actual female spaces and they know it.
All radfems are GC but not all GCers are radfems. Be nice to the mods though, the hormones are messing with their silly little girl brains teehee
And yeah there's plenty of proof at least one mod is an ugly tranny. Their picture and shit was up on /soc/ a few days back. Let them die mad at 30 when they inevitably off themselves/die of botched surgery/get murdered while being empowered by letting a john raw dog them.>>11466>women that don't like men are bad and stupid!