/ot/ - Gender Critical #21

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Anonymous 08/27/19 (Tue) 10:48:29 AM No. 454489

>>454414
Previously they were claiming that terves are just ugly gender essentialists who don’t want men to be prettier and more feminine than us, now we all lust after effeminate men? Make up your minds already.

>>454427
Just like the civil rights movement, LGB and of course intersectional feminism, they co-opt, appropriate and colonise every movement and community they think will help them reach their goals. Everything must centre them at all times and they never have to reciprocate. Ask not what your trans sisters can do for you, but what you can do for your trans sisters!

Last thread I posted that study showing that TIMs in particular are very socially conservative, least likely to support the poor, immigrants etc. and that more of them ‘identify’ as feminists than are actually in favour of supporting women. It would be interesting to get into this identity vs. reality aspect with the other issues as well. Most TIMs seem to portray themselves as being the champions of minority and marginalised groups (they gave us LGB rights and feminism!) but if you get down to the facts of their voting history and activism, I suspect it will reveal that their progressive persona is just a mask for a group of men who are actually more self-centred and regressive than even ‘cis’ men. It would be a wake up call for those groups who still haven’t realised that TRAs are a cuckoo in their nest.

Anonymous 08/27/19 (Tue) 10:58:13 AM No. 454494

>>454485
There was a Troon in the toilets at my uni and I found the blank staring is the easiest approach. I walked in and they were taking selfies, so I just stopped and stared, slow blinked and went into a cubicle. When I came out they were just standing there off to the side of the sink and mirrors. I just stared again then started to wash my hands. They just stood there. Then I had to walk over to dry my hands and just looked at them til they moved out of the way of the towel dispenser and left. That was last year and I've saw him come out of the men's regularly since.

Anonymous 08/27/19 (Tue) 11:37:47 AM No. 454500

>>454485
I had a troon try the same thing with me and the blank faced approach really does infuriate them.

He was asking me for make-up tips "because we girls should help each other teehee!" and I just looked at him blankly, shrugged and said I didn't really know anything about make-up. I could tell he was buttmad I ruined his little fantasy that all women are in some secret lipstick coven but he couldn't actually get angry with me because I didn't do anything wrong even by libfem standards.

Anonymous 08/27/19 (Tue) 12:16:54 PM No. 454506

>>454442
the 1950', known for long wavy hair
>>454427
Reminds me of a "plural" troon who got upset bc he was diagnosed as a skizo and they really hate when you use insults that were slurs in the xviiith century or something

Anonymous 08/27/19 (Tue) 12:46:02 PM No. 454513

>>454469
Recognizing secondary sex characteristics, the AI's job, is biased. Ok.

>>454485
I've met a few trans people at conventions, college, etc. who announce they're trans when I first meet them, and what pronouns they use. I say "okay, cool" and start referring to them as they asked, and they look kind of upset, ha.

Anonymous 08/27/19 (Tue) 12:48:52 PM No. 454515

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Damn, trans women really have always existed.

Anonymous 08/27/19 (Tue) 12:50:31 PM No. 454516

>>454515
kek, and always been rapey sociopaths, apparently

Anonymous 08/27/19 (Tue) 01:45:42 PM No. 454527

>>454485
I don't get cramps or PMS regardless of what BC I'm on, and even before I was on it. I wish people would research women's health more and quit stereotyping when I know plenty of other women with "unusual" issues like endo and tilted cervix. Maybe we could reduce maternal mortality if research were actually being done on women's health and not trans

Anonymous 08/27/19 (Tue) 01:47:56 PM No. 454528

>>454515
Now Saint Terf give women shelter from cross-dressing male gaslighters instead.

Anonymous 08/27/19 (Tue) 02:09:47 PM No. 454539

>>454513
So the troon got upset you didn't freak out? KEK That's golden. Or was it just the way you said "Ok cool"
They all know what they're doing and when you start to intimidate them even a little, they back down because they KNOW for a fact they can't lay a hand on us without total condemnation.

Anonymous 08/27/19 (Tue) 02:32:16 PM No. 454550

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is there anywhere I can kek at genderqueer couples that are basically just a straight man and woman trying to be quirky? or a tag I can look up?

pic rel, a 'non-binary' wedding photo

Anonymous 08/27/19 (Tue) 02:54:53 PM No. 454559

>>454550
along with the obscenely wealthy, these people need to have their wealth forcibly redistributed. i dont care where they lie on the fiscal spectrum, they need to be stripped of all almost everything they own. people like this are too stupid to have any money or assets and they should be gifted to those that aren't this retarded at 29.

Anonymous 08/27/19 (Tue) 02:55:46 PM No. 454560

>>454550

I know a nonbinary straight couple as well and they’re the most narcissistic pretentious cry baby complainers and I really can’t stand them lol

Anonymous 08/27/19 (Tue) 03:09:14 PM No. 454568

Another heterosexual wedding being paraded as "gay".

Anonymous 08/27/19 (Tue) 03:11:36 PM No. 454569

>>454550
It would be cute if it was GNC wedding…but I don't see why people feel the need to pretend they're anything other than male/female.

Anonymous 08/27/19 (Tue) 03:19:52 PM No. 454573

>>454569
nah, it'd still be lame and attention whorey. it'd just actually be in line with progressive politics but still garish and pathetic

Anonymous 08/27/19 (Tue) 03:27:43 PM No. 454574

>>454573
I don't really see how it's pathetic. A lot of people troon out because it's now more acceptable to be trans than GNC. Nothing wrong with feminine men, masculine women imo as long as they accept who they are. I guess you can argue that their taste in fashion is still kind of eccentric.

Anonymous 08/27/19 (Tue) 03:34:40 PM No. 454577

>>454574
there's nothing masculine about her though from the photo, she just has a sharp jawline. even if their actions and beliefs were logically consistent, it's obvious they'd be immature tryhards.

Anonymous 08/27/19 (Tue) 03:37:21 PM No. 454578

>>454550
My first thought was pixielocks and any man she dates

Anonymous 08/27/19 (Tue) 03:49:37 PM No. 454583

>>454469
Next up:
>animals scared of men regularly misgender trans individuals
>forensic pathologists regularly misgender trans skeletal remains
One of these already happened.

>>454467
Working in IT I absolutely, without an ounce of mercy, hate these fuckers. They regularly have chimpouts over people not handing them respect and high paying jobs on a silver platter just based on the virtue of being a tranny. They're often extremely subpar or just straight out bad programmers and have a nasty, conflict-seeking personality on top of all that, so they blame "the meritocracy" for their own inadequacy. And that's not the worst part either, the worst part is that because these people have she/her on their twitter bios people assume that it's the Hysterical Females causing drama again when it's the good old predictable narcissistic men doing the deed. This literally happened again in the dev community on a larger scale the other day and I died inside.

What the fuck can they teach us lowly "cis women" to begin with? I actually looked up this article and saw this
>Daniela calls herself a diversity activist. And she wants to use her experiences to make the tech industry truly inclusive, starting with something as simple as the words we use. For instance, “When you talk about feminine empowerment, these are really heavy words that you don’t want to use in conversation with men.”
So a heterosexual man (or a lesbian transwoman uwu) who started putting on a dress two years ago is telling natal women to shut up with their stupid feminist wording when talking to men? Wow, how empowering. Go fuck yourself.

Anonymous 08/27/19 (Tue) 04:03:15 PM No. 454588

>>454550
I don't see much of a problem with this, people can and should have whatever kind of wedding attire they want.
What I don't like is the idea that this is a "new identity", and not just two humans ignoring arbitrary traditions.
It can't just be "We're doing what we want, and the "rules" are meaningless". It always has to be "We are special unique marginalized oppressed erased alien people with a totally different idea of what gender is, and by extension, the human experience itself!!!" with these sorts. Why?

Anonymous 08/27/19 (Tue) 04:03:15 PM No. 454589

Anonymous 08/27/19 (Tue) 04:04:14 PM No. 454590

>>454550 I got this pic from a Tumblr that posts cislesbian wedding pics btw

>>454560 tell me more anon

Anonymous 08/27/19 (Tue) 04:13:41 PM No. 454596

>>454550
Stuff like this is why people see non-binary as a fad, and why I avoided ever using the term. Liking "quirky" things not typically associated with the stereotypes of your biological sex doesn't make you not that sex. I always thought of non-binary as a way for people who had dysphoria to be recognized as a part of the trans community, without ever wanting to medically transition, rather present as the opposite sex or androgynous in non body mutilating ways to deal with the dysphoria. Basically, cross dressing with dysphoria.

It was only like what I mentioned for a short while, until Tumblr became a toxic place that tried to guilt you for your "privilege" of being born straight or "cis." Suddenly non-dysphoric people who have instead struggled with their peers for not liking stereotypical things decided to take the trans label to feel they belong, or different to avoid harassment from the left.

Also, minus the guy's bad hair cut in this pic, the wedding attire is lovely.

Anonymous 08/27/19 (Tue) 04:37:54 PM No. 454602

>>454596
I would've had no problem with young people using the term non-binary while they figure out if they are going to transition or not and I would they/them them with no problem but people permanently announcing it as their gender or using the term in their 30s and beyond is too much for me. I transitioned for a year and then stopped, I could've adopted the term non-binary to describe myself but it's too bullshitty for me

If being genderqueer or non binary was ever a valid thing to begin with then shitty attention seeking special people went and ruined the terms for everyone anyway, maybe it attracted BS people cos it was BS already

Anonymous 08/27/19 (Tue) 06:34:27 PM No. 454654

i just saw a gay man on facebook say "women aren't getting murdered for their gender identity" and i couldn't fucking believe. he was sincere. how can anyone be so ignorant and self absorbed? fuck. i'm angry.

Anonymous 08/27/19 (Tue) 06:36:54 PM No. 454655

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since some of the other anons in the last thread mentioned liking this kind of subversion re: TRA anime girl memes

Anonymous 08/27/19 (Tue) 06:37:26 PM No. 454656

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and another for good measure

Anonymous 08/27/19 (Tue) 06:46:22 PM No. 454658

>>454282
if it makes anyone feel better this post was reported and removed
poor magdalen, really hope she gets better.

Anonymous 08/27/19 (Tue) 06:47:06 PM No. 454659

>>454656
I really like this one.

Anonymous 08/27/19 (Tue) 06:51:56 PM No. 454664

>>454656
Good stuff.

Anonymous 08/27/19 (Tue) 07:16:03 PM No. 454679

>>454539
I said it neutrally, like: "We're going out for fries, want to come?" "Okay, cool."

I know that they want me to react negatively so they can school me, making me look like a morally bad and ignorant person. They like to be perceived as deviant, much like fetishists who infiltrated the LGB community, so they can take the moral high ground and assert how ~woke~ they are because of their ~unique~ gender experience that falls out of normal social perceptions. It makes them feel even more different, and likely better than other people. It's a form of narcissism. I know because I was like this when I was a Christian. You try to corner the other person in an argument you know you'll win because it's an easy target to reaffirm your beliefs.

Anonymous 08/27/19 (Tue) 07:47:26 PM No. 454690

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>>454679
>much like fetishists who infiltrated the LGB community
>who Infiltrated(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

Anonymous 08/27/19 (Tue) 07:50:54 PM No. 454693

>>454679
I love to kinkshame as much as the next person, but only het fetishists aren't part of LGB.

Anonymous 08/27/19 (Tue) 08:31:12 PM No. 454702

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More enbyshit for you guys. I just saw this, and I went and read the original thread it linked. Apparently Jose presents as a man in every way, except he wears a little bit of eyeliner, that you can't even quite tell is there. And he thinks this should give him access to womens groups.

Anonymous 08/27/19 (Tue) 08:33:10 PM No. 454705

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>>454702
I felt this comment needed screencapping to. "I'm a woman who wears comfortable clothes instead of cliche sexy shit, and people think I'm a woman instead of the agender snowflake I am".

Anonymous 08/27/19 (Tue) 08:48:26 PM No. 454713

>>454705
How the fuck can she read peoples minds to know that they're reading her as 'that woman just let herself go'

I mean, projecting your own issues onto others much?

Anonymous 08/27/19 (Tue) 08:50:37 PM No. 454716

>>454702
This clapping between words shit still exists? You know it's gonna be retarded when you see the claps

Anonymous 08/27/19 (Tue) 09:16:07 PM No. 454722

>>454690
>>454693
Kink isn't inherently LGB, as heterosexuals can have kinks. It's your attraction to a certain sex that makes you LGB. Come on guys. You know better.

Anonymous 08/27/19 (Tue) 10:06:08 PM No. 454733

>>454568
What’s more bizarre is that TiM is a HSTS who identifies as a lesbian now and the woman is a lesbian (supposedly)

Anonymous 08/27/19 (Tue) 10:14:10 PM No. 454735

>>454414
but most TiMs aren't effeminate, they're generally creepy and 'off' looking, school shooter type face

also i thought they were supposedly never men so how can anyone be taking gnc men away?

Anonymous 08/27/19 (Tue) 10:15:12 PM No. 454736

>>454735
The only effeminate TiMs I have seen are HSTS and they aren’t interested in women in the first place.

Anonymous 08/27/19 (Tue) 10:21:10 PM No. 454739

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Anonymous 08/27/19 (Tue) 10:43:48 PM No. 454747

>>454739
>trans power
Don’t they realize how suspiciously close that sounds to “white power”?

Anonymous 08/27/19 (Tue) 10:49:26 PM No. 454750

>>454739
now bizzare to sprsypaint "you are not welcome" on your own establishment essentially, like bitch, it's their property not yours

fucking vile though, all men are the same

Anonymous 08/27/19 (Tue) 11:03:06 PM No. 454754

>>454722
That's literally what I said, straight kinksters are trying to claim being kinky makes them part of LGBTQ+++, when being heterosexual automatically excludes them, not the kink.

Anonymous 08/27/19 (Tue) 11:16:12 PM No. 454757

>>454754
TQ+ was a mistake.

Anonymous 08/27/19 (Tue) 11:58:07 PM No. 454765

>>454739
why do this to a fucking shelter. I struggle to come up with a less oppressive establishment

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 12:01:19 AM No. 454768

>>454739
Intimidating rape survivors is a very male thing to do.

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 12:08:17 AM No. 454769

So a very narcissistic tranny who runs a con arcade business with other trannies made a group on facebook for posting your own lewds. Guess what, it’s full of disgusting estrogen tits and a few girls who must feel like queens there. There are some males as well.
They then decided to make a group for “girls only” I guess to alleviate the discomfort of posting gross pictures of yourself for 150 other people to see. Four out of the five girls commenting on the announcement post are trannies. God

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 12:31:33 AM No. 454773

>>454768
Don't you know evil terves are literally committing VIOLENCE against awesome trans gals by DARING to ask for a female-only therapy space for victims of rape by males? Obviously they deserve threats and dead rats nailed to their doors. Terrorizing rape victims is just normal intersectional feminist ladybrain behavior along with all the sexy sleepovers where us gals' hips move without us controlling them and we bond over non-uterine cramps and our sexy desire to have giant milk-producing naturals.

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 12:49:08 AM No. 454774

>>454765
I'd like to know how often AGPs even get sexually assaulted/raped. 99% of them are instantly clockable as male on sight or don't even pass at all. They're also usually normal sized guys who could easily fight off an attacker. Yes I know most rapes don't happen randomly but by people the victim knows, but still. They're more likely to be beaten up by gay bashers than raped.

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 01:11:54 AM No. 454776

>>454733
I think Gigi just like Nats's money tbh

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 01:13:47 AM No. 454777

>>454739
>"trans power"
>"you are not welcome"
Huh, that's funny, reminds me of this other little group of white men…

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 01:16:25 AM No. 454778

Does anyone else feel like most transphobic hate crimes are really just homophobic hate crimes? Most of the attackers think they’re beating up an extremely GNC gay man, they don’t believe what they’re attacking is actually a woman so I always thought calling them or “cissexist”, “transphobic” or “transmisogynistic” made no sense. Gay men have an incredibly long history of violence and still make up 61% of LGBT hate crime victims today.

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 01:18:39 AM No. 454779

>>454776
I think so too since he looks disgusted when kissing Nats and Nats desperately wants a baby.

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 01:32:27 AM No. 454782

Canada is a complete shitshow because of the trans activism going on there. Other anons mentioned in a previous thread that an anti-prostitution coalition organised by Chinese-Canadian women who want to rescue trafficked East Asian women are getting branded as SWERFs by TRAs. Some indigenous Canadian women are getting angry at how trans activists have been spreading the lie that indigenous people had no concept of biological sex and that they only learned about it after European colonization. Vancouver Rape Relief had it’s funding pulled for not accepting TiMs into its services even though most of its clients are women of color, particularly indigenous women who already lack so many resources. There is also the fucking Jessica Yaniv case where working class Muslim, Sikh, and Brazilian immigrant women are being targeted in a lawsuit for not waxing a TiMs genitalia. Don’t believe anybody who says that trannies stand for women of color. They are nearly all white men with bizarre fetishes and hatred for the female sex. They only use WoC as props to guilt people into agreeing with their twisted ideology. I’m so angry about this and I have no idea WHY Canada is like this.

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 01:33:39 AM No. 454783

>>454778
Of course. The idea that aggressive asshole dudes beating up men in dresses is because of their 'gender identity'… top fucking kek, that sort of man sees it as faggotry and nothing more.

It's also sexism but that's less of a direct correlation, probably affects TIFs more.

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 01:37:23 AM No. 454784

>>454778
B-but gay men are the most privileged of the LGBT! They are cis men and can get married now!

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 01:47:34 AM No. 454792

>>454778
All the victims of ‘transphobic violence’ are HSTS so they literally are gay men which indeed makes them homophobic hate crimes. None of the men attacking TiMs genuinely view TiMs as women.

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 01:50:30 AM No. 454795

>>454783
They probably also just view Tifs as butch lesbians so attacks on them would also count as homophobic crime

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 01:53:35 AM No. 454798

>>454795
TiFs experience corrective rape from men like lesbians do. They also get raped by TiMs because of their male socialization where they want to replicate heterosexual power dynamics but it isn’t talked about much.

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 01:55:37 AM No. 454800

>>454778
There was one time I actually agreed with Theryn Meyer because he pointed out in a video transmisogyny is just the progressive way to say misandry. The attackers are fully aware they're male. I also agree they're homophobic.

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 01:56:29 AM No. 454801

>>454798
I have heard of TiMs raping TiFs but never the other way around. Really activates the almonds.

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 01:58:55 AM No. 454803

>>454754
I think you need to reread my very first comment. I never said I was against fetishes, but that somehow some people think it makes them LGBT, like leather pride or the people who run around in dog collars and a leash. That's what I was referring to.

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 02:01:08 AM No. 454805

>>454800
Kinda like how “AFAB privilege” is the progressive TRA way of saying the MRA “female privilege”.

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 02:06:34 AM No. 454809

>>454778
It really is weird how they think gay men have so much privilege when every major world religion thinks of gay men as demonic, there have been massive purges of homosexual males throughout history, and they still undergo conversion therapy today. Transphobia doesn’t have the same cultural context or legacy as homophobia at all. Men beat up other men due to homophobia and not transphobia. They generally just view transsexuality as an extension of homosexuality (which it sometimes can be).

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 02:12:16 AM No. 454812

>>454809
> transsexuality as an extension of homosexuality (which it sometimes can be)
Historically it was always the case since fetishists were known as tranvestites and transsexuals has to be homosexual males.

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 02:56:33 AM No. 454822

>>454702
kek, it would be abakkus wouldn't it

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 03:20:12 AM No. 454826

>>454782

Jesus, when you lay it out like this it really is such a glaring case of white dudes vs. brown women. Honestly nothing makes me angrier, I'm hispanic and the women in my family have had these lives completely defined by femaleness in a way trans ideology has no room for. My grandmas, aunts, and mom weren't all super girly, but they've all led lives shaped by having kids, housework, childcare, contraception availability, men leaving….it's all these female experiences trans women don't find sexy so they just ignore. My mom can't stand it, she just says "wow so they're a bunch of men who are really into themselves, bet they rely on women to build communities for them and cook and clean and swallow their issues" and it's like, yeah, jesus. All those Canadian TRAs are just depending on the silence of women prostitutes, beauticians, activists, mothers, etc to prop up their male fucking lives. It's so much harder to ignore when you come from disadvantaged women, where the unsexy unfun mundane realities of what it means to be a woman are so exposed. None of these men are "women" because they identify with waking up earliest and going to bed last, you know?

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 05:29:00 AM No. 454842

>>454812
transvestites aren't even close. they were gay men dressing up as women so they could date their gay partners. they weren't insane freaks trying to stomp all over women's rights.

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 06:10:59 AM No. 454846

>>454842
No, in Benjamin’s SOS transvestites were classified as men who were not homosexual (not a 4-6 on the Kinsey scale) and pretended to be women for fetishistic reasons so they were not eligible for transition. Blanchard classified them as autogynephiles and gave them the right to transition.

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 06:34:25 AM No. 454849

>>454842
Tranvestites are people (usually men) who dress as the opposite sex for various reasons. Nowadays we mostly think of transvestic fetishism which is men dressing like women for sexual arousal. ‘Transvestite’ was frequently used in sexology to describe non-gay men. It was really common for them to dress in women’s clothing and masturbate. This could build up over time and manifest as gender dysphoria where they would desire a female body but they were usually refused transition since only gay men were allowed at the time.

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 07:24:39 AM No. 454854

>>454849
>Tranvestites are people
>implying

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 07:28:25 AM No. 454855

Why do TRAs accuse gc people/terfs/etc of being "anti-science"? Wtf is anti scientific about questioning TRA's quasireligious dogma? Can anyone help me understand this reasoning, as an actual woman in STEM it's so confusing how I'm now considered anti-science for believing sex is real and unchangeable.

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 07:43:00 AM No. 454856

>>454854
>usually men

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 07:50:24 AM No. 454857

>>454855
They think TERFs deny the existence of gender dysphoria and don’t understand how “brain sex” works. They used to always link me articles proving how TiMs had brains more similar to women and TiFs more similar to men, while sexual dimorphism in the brain exists they relied on very small sample sizes for these tests. There are also other studies which show that TiMs have no brain difference from other men. The “science” behind the causes of dysphoria are very primitive and wonky so you can’t really prove or disprove much at all. There is, however, academic pressure to not publish anything that would reflect “negatively” on the trans community so many researchers can’t get funding for it. Science has always had the problem of being ruled by dogma.

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 07:59:08 AM No. 454859

>>454654
> "women aren't getting murdered for their gender identity
but for their sex" is how I usually see this statement, with the sex part implied. the guy might be a tehm or not.

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 08:03:57 AM No. 454861

>>454857
That’s because the people who have GD are from a wide spectrum and now “transgender” includes fucking everything. Some people may be inborn with GD which leads to scientists being able to find prenatal hormone evidence for it while others develop it via social contagion which means they won’t be able detect anything at all. What’s worse is that the people who develop it from environmental factors are claiming that their gender identity is innate.

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 08:45:36 AM No. 454864

>>454861
there's no such thing as inborn GD. tired of you truscum defenders

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 09:01:40 AM No. 454865

>>454855
because believing that someone can be born "a woman in a man's body" is sooooo scientific

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 09:07:57 AM No. 454867

>>454864
Give GC women some more credit instead of just comparing them to truscum. There is no evidence to say there is inborn GD and no evidence to say there isn’t.

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 09:25:17 AM No. 454870

>>454867
no, there is no reason why a child would suffer from GD due to their physiology/fetal hormone levels, whatever, when the entire concept is based around man-made constructs. the entire thing revolves around girls necessarily preferring "feminine" hobbies or dress or toys, etc, etc. all of this is sexist bunk and there can't be a biological basis for something that is completely fake. at best, when it comes to dysphoria based on their bodies, preferring to have a different body likely is not the cause of something material other than depression, OCD, etc etc. dysmorphia sufferers are not born with black brains or blonde brains

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 09:31:24 AM No. 454872

>>454870
>at best, when it comes to dysphoria based on their bodies
That's what gender dysphoria is. The desire to have the opposite sex's characteristics. It's possible that people could have some type of predisposition that makes them delusional in that way. The social dysphoria derived from gender stereotypes and being "born in the wrong body" is obviously bunk.

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 09:39:47 AM No. 454874

>>454870
>no, there is no reason why a child would suffer from GD due to their physiology/fetal hormone levels
Genuinely wondering how can you be so certain about this? Testosterone has already been established as a major factor in fetal brain development and prenatal hormones are one of the only proven determinators in a human's inborn sexuality.

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 09:41:27 AM No. 454875

>>454872
gender dysphoria is an all encompassing term, it doesn't explicitly refer to just the body part, afaik. they aren't delusional. they see their bodies as they are. they see their bodies accurately, they just prefer to have different bodies. no child would or should even know the opposite sex has different body parts but in the cases of these very young kids, they somehow know. weird, considering I never knew boys had different bodies until I was at least 5, but always turns out these kids with dysphoria regarding their genitals have creepy, way too sexually liberal parents. every time. i think most of us would prefer to be in different bodies if we had the choice. there's no predisposition. very young children, as we know, pick up social cues regarding how women and men and how girls and boys are to be treated and what is expected of them. that much is very clear. there's no phantom vagina syndrome distressing these kids that's rooted in their neurophysiology other than whatever plays a part in OCD, anxiety, depression, whatever have you. most kids don't even know the physical difference between girls and boys at these ages they allegedly claim.

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 09:48:07 AM No. 454877

>>454874
sexuality has nothing to do with the way our bodies are perceived. gay people don't feel at odds with their bodies, generally, except for how society makes them feel. if a feminized or masculinized brain is responsible for sexuality, they'd also be predictably and reliably trans a good portion of the time because they're feminized or masculinized, right? but we see they're not. only but a few homosexuals exposed to pressure or those that have an extreme interest in attracting straight men end up transitioning or feeling at odds with their bodies

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 09:59:01 AM No. 454880

>>454875
Yeah, gender dysphoria is defined quite vaguely due to its lack of research although it does make it clear in its diagnosis that physical dysphoria is the defining symptom and not social dysphoria like gender roles. It also states that gender non-conformity is not the same thing as gender dysphoria so mental health workers should take caution. This is why some trenders actually discuss with each other on how to say the right things to their psychologist to trick them into prescribing them hormones. Now the trans lobby may put on further pressure on the American Psychiatric Association to further broaden the definition of gender dysphoria as they've already gotten the name changed from 'gender identity disorder'.

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 10:07:39 AM No. 454884

if gender dysphoria is all about the brain then why have transsexuals almost always been effeminate gay men and more rarely butch lesbians until recent years? transitioning is almost always related to sexuality. straight people with gay and lesbian fetishes started transitioning in recent years because it has become more accepted for them to force themselves as transbians/~~gay trans guys~~.

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 10:20:59 AM No. 454890

>>454884
>transitioning is almost always related to sexuality.
well, transitioning is almost always related to the pressures surrounding their sexuality, or an interest in attracting straight men (gay men are known to have an interest in this, specifically almost 'converting' straight men). gay men will fuck in drag for the same reason but admit theyre not trans (willam and other famous drag queens mention this often and proudly). transitioning isn't about gays or lesbians having brains being feminized or masculinized and this is a result of that. it's always been social pressure and expectations and/or interest in appealing to men

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 10:29:41 AM No. 454894

>>454778
They ARE homophobic crimes. Nobody gets beat up for believing they are a woman, they get beat up because a heterosexual's fragile masculinity gets offended by being "tricked" into a relationship with a male.

>>454872
It's called body dysmorphic disorder and it's already a thing. There's literally no need to separate it into a gender identity thing.

>>454877
This.

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 11:35:25 AM No. 454906

>>454739
>trans power
>terfs go home
>you are not welcome

does_this_remind_you_of_anything.jpg

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 12:02:16 PM No. 454914

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Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 12:28:55 PM No. 454924

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>A panel of judges ruled on August 23 that Adree Edmo’s gender-confirmation surgery should be provided by Idaho and Corizon, the state’s prison healthcare provider.

>The surgery is estimated to cost between $20,000 and $30,000.

>Edmo is serving 10 years for sexually abusing a 15-year-old boy when she was 22 and is scheduled for release in 2021. She is not eligible for parole.

>The 9th circuit court of appeals ruling agreed with a December 2018 ruling from US District Judge B Lynn Winmill that was in Edmo’s favour and ordered the state to provde her with surgery.

>The 9th circuit court of appeals judges wrote that Windmill’s findings were “logical and well-supported” and that “responsible prison officials were deliberately indifferent to Edmo’s gender dysphoria, in violation of the Eighth Amendment”, according to NPR.

>Idaho has 90 days to appeal the ruling to the Supreme Court. In a statement, Idaho governor Brad Little said, “We cannot divert critical public dollars away from the higher priorities of keeping the public safe and rehabilitating offenders.”

https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2019/08/26/trans-prisoner-gender-confirmation-surgery-idaho-gender-dysphoria/

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 12:31:40 PM No. 454926

>>454924
literally being rewarded for being a predator

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 12:42:06 PM No. 454929

>>454914
Why do so many lesbians on twitter use the lizard emoji?

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 12:43:55 PM No. 454930

>>454914
>appropriating trans culture

How in the actual fuck??? Please tell me this is just one of you LARPing. I can't allow myself to believe people like this exist.

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 12:45:57 PM No. 454931

>>454930
No, they're a troon who opened up a twitter just to argue with people.
https://twitter.com/rf_gone

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 12:56:47 PM No. 454933

>>454924
>not paying for a child abuser to get plastic surgery he wants using state money is now considered cruel and unusual punishment
We're in the darkest timeline

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 12:56:49 PM No. 454934

>>454924
>>454926
A sexual predator voluntarily having his penis removed before he leaves prison? I have absolutely no problem with this.

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 12:58:53 PM No. 454936

>>454934
Men rape even without their penises like the 2012 Delhi gang rape. The solution is to kill rapists.

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 01:02:14 PM No. 454937

>>454929
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Mexico_whiptail
>Despite reproducing asexually, and being an all-female species, the whiptail still engages in mating behavior with other females of its own species, giving rise to the common nickname "lesbian lizards"

I don't actually know for real but that's probably what it is

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 01:05:13 PM No. 454939

>>454924
>she
People often joke about pronouns but the constant use of female pronouns really obscures male violence and since language dictates thought it will manipulate people into thinking TiMs are women.

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 01:07:06 PM No. 454941

>>454937
So two species hybridized, the males went extinct, and now all the females are asexually reproducing lesbians? Nature is wild.

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 01:14:15 PM No. 454943

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Can the UK, USA, and Canada stop doing this nonsense for just one moment.

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 01:47:54 PM No. 454949

>>454943
I work in market research and one of our recent surveys was on 'womens sports' and whether people care about it, the results seemed to show that most men lose interest when they see the word womens in front of anything

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 02:58:46 PM No. 454966

>>454943
When I heard of this, I only thought that it could be a good thing. Why is the men's world cup just called the "World Cup" and the women's is "Women's World Cup"? It's because the men's is considered default.

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 03:32:42 PM No. 454975

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>>454769
What arcade business? Snow Phoenix?

I'm not surprised if it's them, the owners of that are trannies and one of them said pretty weird shit like how he feels like HRT is gonna make him into a video game character, and how he'd steal his girlfriend's clothes in secret to feel more "girly".

This post in particular though, oh god. Of course he had to bring up the evil smelly terves.

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 04:12:38 PM No. 454988

>>454966
How do you anons feel about using gender neutral language in general? I don't have a "gender identity" (ie I'm not trans), I'm aware I'm biologically female, but I use they/them pronouns. I also use a genderneutral nickname on job applications which helps because I work in trades.

Is there any evidence this might be a bad idea? One might site that removing sexed terms could cause issues, in say, people entering a women's only facility for victims, but you should always check the birth certificate regardless (I'm aware people can change their legal sex, but it eliminates a lot of creeps). Anyone can run around using what pronouns they damn well please now, rendering them useless.

I'd prefer to not use language that reduces me to my genitals, considering "he" has always been the grammatically correct default for not knowing someone's biological sex (although they has been catching on). I've always been under the impression gendered language started out as a way to keep men and women as separate classes and keep men in power, for instance, we can see Roman men have their own names, but the women take male names with an "a" at the end to indicate they are female, and therefore, the property of her father or husband. Why wouldn't they just take the father's name, why does it have to be made female identifying? It's never Augustus or Julian the older, for women, it's Augustina and Julia. I hate that shit for the life of me. I probably sound autistic, but this is a genuine thought of mine.

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 04:23:01 PM No. 454990

>>454975
It is SP, but it’s the other transbian (out of what like 3? 4? Lol), the official owner who trooned out like a year ago. He is such a egotistical bastard who thinks he’s hot shit. I’m so glad I have the pleasure of knowing what his veiny wrinkly estrogen lumps, ass, and ahegao face look like as well as his gfs who surely keep him around to feel better about themselves.

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 04:40:45 PM No. 455000

>>454988
Languagefag here. Regardless of transgender identities, I personally don't care if someone wants to go by "they/them" pronouns since it is also gramatically correct to use them for someone whose gender is unknown. However, I don't think most people would look at a person and refer to them as "they/them", everyone would go with feminine or masculine pronouns. I am firmly against neopronouns though, it only causes more complications. Pronouns are in a core part of the language, you can't just add new pronouns out of nowhere and expect everyone to adapt to it right away. English used to have grammatical gender but it declined around 11th-14th centuries (if I recall correctly). It's a whole process.

I am gender critical but are gender pronouns really reducing people to their genitals? A crossdresser that passes well can be called by the other gender's pronouns as well, I think it's more about perception. There are languages that never had grammatical gender, Japanese, Korean, Finnish, Turkish.. The lack of gendered pronouns doesn't exactly cause a confusion when it's what you're used to. Maybe English will also get rid of its gendered pronouns due to political changes too, but it would take time.

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 04:44:17 PM No. 455001

>>454988
pronouns are important to languages that use them, there's no getting around that. gender in most languages implies biological sex (as it should) and you're not changing anything by not using pronouns. in english pronouns help other people contextualize without having to use a lot of other identifiers. pronouns and words that identify gender(sex) are useful. people seem to forget/misunderstand that gender roles and gendered pronouns aren't the same thing. gender roles came about from the distinction between males and females and it doesn't matter what words we use or don't use, it will still be there. as well it should be, only in a positive way rather than in a negative way. you're a female so you're a woman/she/her but only because those are the words used to identify human females with.

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 04:47:24 PM No. 455002

>>455000
not to disagree but i just wanted to point out that most of the languages you mentioned that don't have 3rd person pronouns, do have gendered terminology. it's more a lack of pronouns. japanese and korean especially have tons of gendered words including gender specific ways of identifying yourself while speaking.

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 04:47:32 PM No. 455003

>>454975
>I did get caught and beat mercilessly when I borrowed my friend's school uniform
>my experiences aren't any less "girl"
Why do so many TiMs think being beaten by homophobes for being an effeminate male is the same as what girls experience and reference that as proof of their "girl" upbringing (like Laverne Cox did)? Girls don't get beaten up for daring to wear female gendered clothing. We get heavily encouraged or even enforced to wear it, the complete opposite experience of this male.

>They'll say a "man" couldn't ever know what a "woman" is. No, fuck you, you got as much of a choice of being a woman as I did, and if I could have traded anything I would have chosen to be born a cisgirl, every single time.
There are so many glaring flaws in this. Women all choose to be women as much as MTFs do? So women who undergo FGM, rape, domestic violence, and systematic oppression towards female just could have "chosen" to be men instead by his logic.
Then he turns around and bitterly remarks how actually he would do anything to have been born a "cisgirl", dashing his initial assertion that all women simply choose to be women while also oxymoronically reinforcing the ridiculous idea that it's wanting to be something that makes you that thing. PT wanted with her whole heart to be Nipponese and put on their school uniforms but that desire didn't make it reality.

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 04:48:19 PM No. 455004

>>454988
Gender neutral language is fine. In your situation specifically though, I would encourage you to examine why you don't identify with womanhood, and why you have a desire to abandon the label of "woman".

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 04:57:00 PM No. 455006

>>455002
I'm a Finnish native speaker and there's zero gendered language (including pronouns), so I've spoken in a gender neutral way since birth and found it alien to see other languages have gendered words. It comes natural to me not to concern myself with gender when speaking. However with other languages I have mixed feelings, I'm all for gender neutrality but in the current political climate all gender neutralness seems to be about erasing feminity exclusively so it rubs me the wrong way.

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 05:03:36 PM No. 455007

>>455002
I don't speak Korean or Japanese so I don't know that much about their terminologies but they are always a part of "languages with no grammatical gender" lists, so I'm assuming they have no specific gendered pronouns like she/her or gendered nouns like how objects have gender in German and other Indo-European languages. Are you talking about how Korean has different words for older brother/sister depending on the speaker and such?

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 05:11:51 PM No. 455010

>>455007
that's what i mean, yes. they technically shouldn't be categorized that way because they do have a lot of gendered words and even stand ins for pronouns, they just have a different grammatical structure. i think it's disingenuous to say that japanese has no pronouns or gender specifics just because they don't have an exact equivalent to he/she. same with korean, which has them more in the form of honorifics, but the fact is that the language structure is different.

>>455006
i think that gender neutralness is just a way to ease into sex neturalness tbh. it's something that's super emotionally charged for almost everyone and seems positive, but it's likely much darker beneath the surface. getting rid of pronouns is a trans/TRA movement so it can't be good.

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 05:16:33 PM No. 455011

>>455007
Japanese has a bunch of different ways of saying "me" "my" and "I". While these terms can technically be used by anyone, they have heavily gendered uses. For instance, women almost always use "watashi", and men only use it when they're trying to be super feminine or super polite. "Boku" is the polite "masculine" word typically used by young or subservient men. It is sometimes used by tomboyish girls. "Ore" is maculine and very dominant. It is typically used by older men or men in positions of power, and is considered rude in any other context.

Japanese is gendered in many other ways. It's actually kind of worse in terms of gender because of how frequently "feminine" is conflated with "subservient". Socially speaking, it's a very conservative culture, and they have the highest gender inequality of any first world country.

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 05:26:57 PM No. 455013

>>455004
I identify with womanhood; I don't think I said I didn't. I've experienced sexism as much as the next, but aside from my secondary sex characteristics (that are pretty weak to begin with), I'm just a human being that wants to enjoy life no different than anyone else. I hate that I have a separate label just because I have a visibly weaker frame and boobs. What's the point? Like another anon said, people take their best guess at your sex and sometimes get it wrong, because it's based off of stereotypes most of the time. I get mistaken for a guy a lot even though I'm petitely built, short , anorexic, and long haired. I just question the point of pronouns. Troons and fetishists associate womanhood with pronouns and being percieved as female. I think to get rid of them all-together would be liberating because no one would have to give in to their delusions of wanting to be perceived as a "she."

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 05:32:21 PM No. 455016

>>455010
>>455011
not a language expert by any means but grammatical gender doesn't refer to human sex, it's about grammar. in most indo european languages the gender heavily affects the noun's cases, when you are learning a new ie language you have to memorize the gender for every new noun you learn. japanese and korean don't have this. japanese men and women using slightly different speech patterns is more about gender roles than grammatical gender. most countries with languages that don't have grammatical gender aren't exactly the most gender equal places, maybe except finland.

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 05:35:12 PM No. 455017

>>454937
That or it seems that it's mostly detrans lesbians on twitter using it, perhaps referring to the fact that lizards can shed their skin and tails which is like how they were shedding their old identity. I tried to research more on the emoji but couldn't find any info.

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 05:35:50 PM No. 455018

>>455016
samefag and sorry for getting ot but they don't have an equivalent of the "el/la" in spanish, "der/die/das" in german, "le/la" in french is what i mean.

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 05:55:55 PM No. 455024

>>455018
right, but people pushing the rhetoric don't mean it like that because english doesn't have that either.

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 06:15:00 PM No. 455027

>>455024
English used to have it and the "the" article is still an equivalent of el/la. When a Japanese guy talks with "female words" he might get "omg u gay??" reactions but he won't be gramatically incorrect, it's about gender roles in spoken language. If you use the wrong gender in a French noun you fuck up the whole sentence.

I think this whole trans acceptance wave might result in some changes in languages within 1-2 centuries because TRAs are way too aggressive with misgendering. Xe/xir and shit won't probably get the majority's approval but maybe English will move towards being even more gender neutral with pronouns.

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 06:27:25 PM No. 455035

>>455006
Sage for language sperg but ZERO gendered language? You sure? (see: palomies etc career names with the -mies in them, our own words for for example actress/näyttelijätär, tarjoilijatar and so on. Sure our situation is not the same and we have way less gendered language and words in our language than other languages have but saying we have absolutely zero gendered language is wrong)

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 07:11:21 PM No. 455041

>>455027
Maybe not pronouns but I can see ground being lost to gendered personal descriptors eg actress, chairman, masseuse, fireman.

like I already feel a bit weird typing fireman instead of firefighter, but chairperson still sounds awkward.

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 07:34:49 PM No. 455049

Does anyone have any links or info about how/why drag is trash? My sister thinks it’s the best thing ever and I am trying to convince her that it’s offensive

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 07:48:56 PM No. 455053

>>455049
Drag is on the same level of blackface. White men pretending tp be an oppressed person for humor and money.

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 07:52:36 PM No. 455057

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>>455049

Drag is a minstrel show to make fun of women and debase femininity. Thats why fetishists like to crossdress and exhibit themselves, they like to portray a completely fake and disgusting version of a woman, one that is most hummilliating, bitchy, gross and low standard.

That, and they are a bunch of pedophiles as most homosexuals are prone to be. the rate is like 11X that of hetero men and that's why they are pushing for "drag kid story hour" and "drag kid pageants" and that mutant Desmond and Lactatia. To normalize their shitty fetish and groom kids.

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 07:54:54 PM No. 455058

>>455053
>White men

No, homosexual men, Rupaul is fucking black lol.

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 07:55:33 PM No. 455060

>>455058
Rupaul is ONE drag person, oh well. The majority of drag queens are white. Next.

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 07:56:54 PM No. 455062

>>455060
>tumblr intensifies

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 08:00:50 PM No. 455063

>>455060
This really is not true lol I even think black drag cumbrains are overrepresented in the cesspool

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 08:10:05 PM No. 455065

>>455063
sorry im not much too invested in drag to know more than i do lol

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 08:11:52 PM No. 455066

>>455060
>Next.
Are you also going to insert the "clap" emoji between every word you type?
If what you think is true, it's not, then what about Drag-queens from non-white countries? Are the ones in Mexico and Japan also white?
Or when you mean majority or drag at all you are only referring to the USA because that's the only place in the world you care about?

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 08:14:59 PM No. 455068

>>455066
yep

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 08:15:39 PM No. 455069

>>455049
just ask her why she thinks men should be allowed to criticize shitty stereotypes of women that men force on us? gay men use the excuse that straight men treat them like women, but feminine doesn't equate to woman. gay men need to be criticizing shitty stereotypes of them.

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 09:45:22 PM No. 455086

>>455007
Gender itself is built into language. A language like Japanese has words that are used more commonly by either sex to refer to themselves as well as gendered speaking patterns which reinforces gender performance. In the theory of gender abolition, all traces of gender would be destroyed and language is no exception.

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 09:49:31 PM No. 455088

>>455086
Gender-specific names are another example. In my language and female names differ phonetically in that male names are often stronger sounding. Male names are also related to power, intelligence, courage, and other personal qualities. Female names are usually named after some pretty things like flowers or pearls because women are valued for their beauty.

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 09:56:46 PM No. 455093

>>455041
A lot female actors in the industry already hate being referred to as “actresses” though. And I do agree it is sexist. I always thought words like lioness or tigress were weird too.

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 10:16:48 PM No. 455106

>>455035
Yeah just because it don't have gendered pronouns or articles, doesn't mean Finnish is devoid of gendered language. I also find it quite funny how instead of using hän (he/she) most people colloquially use se (it). I'm a Finnish second language speaker (hurrifag) and I always feel like hän is too formal for everyday use. Also, seeing Finnish speakers use English pronouns is just sad, they want to be special uwu snowflakes instead of being happy their language doesn't have gendered pronouns. Sorry for more random language sperging.

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 10:41:17 PM No. 455112

>>455086
Language definitely puts women in the position as the second sex and as an aberration to the male “default”. It’s important to use “female” and “woman” to refer to sex but I also hate those words because “female” had its ending put in to associate it with “male” and “woman” means “wife man”.

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 10:55:40 PM No. 455114

>>455112
It's even worse in latin languages though. At least you don't need to gender everything fucking think in English.

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 10:57:29 PM No. 455115

>>455093
i have hated the word actress since I was a kid, along with waitress and tigress etc

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 11:14:21 PM No. 455117

>>455041
"Actor" and "actress" are weird to me, because it's not like we say "doctor" and "doctress".

Also that second part reminds me of a professor I have who keeps awkwardly saying "craftspersonship" instead of "craftsmanship". I kind of figured the way some words end in -man is kind of like how LotR uses "man" just as a word for "human". I would prefer it if it wasn't that way, but trying to replace all instances of "-man" with "-person" sounds awkward as shit.

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 11:24:06 PM No. 455122

>>455057
>Pedophiles, as most homosexuals are prone to be.
Homophobe-chan is at it again. She's even using the exact same picture she did the last time she tried to stir shit up.

Gay men are not more likely to be pedophiles than straight men. To imply this is to downplay female victimization. The vast majority of CSA survivors are girls and women.

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 11:25:01 PM No. 455123

>>455117
“Doctress” was used historically but female doctors hated it.

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 11:38:27 PM No. 455125

>>455117
Why don’t they just call it craftship or call the profession ‘crafter’?

>>455123
Authoress too because it’s a diminutive form to the default male thus offensive. Now some women are calling themselves seamsters over seamstress to get rid of the gender connotation although “seamstress” was the dominant word as textiles was considered women’s work.

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 11:40:32 PM No. 455127

>>455057
All men are more likely to be pedophiles regardless of their orientation because men are socialised into violence. For many of them sex is a form of power and control rather than just reproduction or as an expression of love and lust. Many feel empowered when raping children who are weaker than them and easy to control. Ever noticed how men think of punishing women through sex? They often fuck things they don’t respect. It’s not about being gay, straight, or bi but being male.

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 11:51:27 PM No. 455131

>>455127
Studies have found that there is no correlation between sexual orientation with pedophilia and most men who rape children of both sexes are actually heterosexual. Firstly it is obvious because there are more straight men than there are gay and secondly because men will frequently sexually harass each other to intimidate one another even if they are not attracted to each other. Sex is used as a display of power and control among men with children serving as easy targets. In fact, most men who commit CSA are not even clinical pedophiles as they are not attracted to juvenile features but they just wanted to assert dominance over them. Another factor in committing CSA is pornography as many men are influenced by pornography to commit various sex acts and it’s getting worse as porn features progressively younger people, and the increase of CP along with pseudo-CP. Many men now want to “give it a try” when it comes to having sex with kids.

Anonymous 08/28/19 (Wed) 11:54:50 PM No. 455133

>>455131

I read otherwise. I read homosexual men are statistically speaking more often pedos

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 12:06:33 AM No. 455137

>>455131
>Firstly it is obvious because there are more straight men than there are gay

The stats are proportional, there's a much, much higher percentage of pedophiles among the homosexual men population than the straight population. And in general, the crime commited are like 50-50, so despite being a minority of the male population homosexuals commit around half the total number of molestation.

But drag kids amirite? let them adopt, its so uwu kawaii, even when it ends in something like "the kid with the henna tattoo case" where 2 gay scrots adopted a kid and travel the world pimping him to other gay scrotes, basically gave them a legal pass to traffic the kid they bought across borders.

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 12:18:57 AM No. 455140

>>455137
>homosexuals commit around half the total number of molestation.
Please stop lying.

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 12:23:21 AM No. 455141

>>455140

I agree with them, I think they do commit around half. Because like someone else said. It’s 11x more likely that the pedo is a homosexual. It’s not gay bashing, just facts

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 12:42:51 AM No. 455143

>>455141
men in general are pedo abusers. gay doesn't magically negate the maleness of it all.

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 12:47:03 AM No. 455145

>>455141
If you're referencing an outdated study by Freund then he says himself that gay men are no more likely to commit CSA than straight men. Genuine pedophilia is classed as a psychiatric disorder so pedophilic men are only attracted to children and not adults of the same or opposite sex. Gay men found no arousal to images of naked boys just like straight men but pedophiles responded with arousal. Knock it off already, homophobe-chan.

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 12:51:12 AM No. 455147

>>455143
True. This is to the point where many sexology researchers even think pedophilia is rare or completely non-existent in women so while women may commit CSA they generally do not have the same persistent, life-long attraction to children like men do.

Anyways this is getting really off-topic. There is always somebody screeching about how all gay men are pedos.

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 12:58:39 AM No. 455150

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This is so fucking gross.
I say to myself I'm not surprised by this shit anymore but I can't understand how people pay thousands of dollars to do this to themselves. It's like we live in a neverending nightmare of freaks

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 01:03:06 AM No. 455151

>>455143

No one says it does, if anything it seems to amplify it.

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 01:04:41 AM No. 455152

>>455150
The MLP shirt completes this picture

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 01:08:39 AM No. 455155

>>455151
You sound like a religious fundie who quotes Paul Cameron for fun. There is no evidence showing gay men are more likely to pedos. Since you're referencing that freund study you should be aware that he recognised his own work was flawed. If you're thinking that Freund was pressured into it by "the gay agenda" (which didn't even exist at the time) to say that, they are not paying attention to how Freund was virulently homophobic and administered conversion therapy for nearly a decade. His research into homosexuality and working gay men led him better understand the "condition". Through his work he came to conclude that gay men did not have a fear of women but rather they were just not sexually attracted to them (in fact many gay men appreciated female friends more than straight men did), nor were they more likely to be child predators than straight men. His most important studies were the ones where he wrote about how sexual orientation was unchangeable so gay men did not need to medicated and he advocated for the decriminalisation of homosexuality.

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 01:18:01 AM No. 455160

>>455155
Freund also coined the term homosexual transsexual because he thought some gay men may have desired female bodies to escape homophobia.

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 01:19:49 AM No. 455162

>>455160
Shit, he aint wrong now though, is he?

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 01:27:52 AM No. 455171

>>455160
With the way homophobe-chan is acting, it's like she wants more people to troon out.

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 01:39:17 AM No. 455177

>>455171
I like how obvious all his/her posts are. I don't know if they do it purposely because they want to stand out for some reason without outright namefagging, or if they're just too dumb to know how to assimilate to an anonymous imageboard.

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 01:51:26 AM No. 455182

>>455143

Good point, actually. But perhaps homosexuality just enhances whatever it is that went wrong in their brains or whatever idk really. Like I am pro LGB but obviously humans were designs with opposite sex attraction for a reason and and imbalance of hormones in utero causes different sexualities

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 01:54:22 AM No. 455184

>>455182
Homosexuality is a combination of different hormonal and genetic factors. In fact, straight people carry "gay genetics" but do not express them. And no, homosexuality does not "enhances whatever it is that went wrong in their brains". Shut the fuck up about being pro LGB because you clearly aren't lmao.

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 01:57:33 AM No. 455186

>>455182
lgb people are more likely to suffer from many of the stressors that make people become abusers. or have been abused themselves which doesn't make them abusers, but makes their abuse worse (aka manifests as pedo rape instead of emotional abuse or sth).

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 02:00:56 AM No. 455188

>>455184

No, you can shut the fuck up because you clearly want to deny facts lmao

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 02:01:06 AM No. 455189

>>455160
Freund is interesting because he went into sexology hoping to eradicate homosexuality as it was seen as a mental disorder at the time. He connected it to an aversion of women and pedophilia (his other area of expertise was sex offenders) but he proved himself wrong every time. He realised that gay men weren't abusing drugs, homeless, or committing suicide at higher rates because there was something wrong with them but because of severe discrimination from society. He advocated for the decriminalisation of homosexuality, the end of conversion therapy, and for people to be more accepting of homosexuality. He got a lot of flak from the psychiatry establishment at the time, especially when he contributed to papers discussing the possibility of sexual orientation being inborn (back then the general consensus was that everybody was born heterosexual but some people chose to be homosexual).

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 02:02:31 AM No. 455191

>>455184

Do you have any sources to back up these “gay gene” claims of yours?

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 02:11:26 AM No. 455196

>>455193
Ever stop to think you don't notice the gay people who seem normal since they, you know, seem normal? While the biggest freaks stick out since they're, you know, the biggest freaks?

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 02:11:47 AM No. 455197

>>455151

I agree, anon.

However, these “people” cannot stand anything that puts a dark cloud over their rainbow land. Straight men can be pedos but the moment you pull out the statistics about homosexual pedos they lose their shit.

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 02:12:52 AM No. 455200

>>455191

I wonder if you can get your blood tested to see if you are really gay or not, since its genetic and shit right? Like i can tell with what probability i am immune to be alergic reactions and know each link of my ancestry based on genetic analysis but not this mysterious gay gene that's all the rage among people who want to throw the word "science" around.

>>455196
>not all gays

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 02:13:28 AM No. 455201

>>455191
https://zenodo.org/record/1231257#.XUYhsOhKhPY

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs10508-007-9274-0

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15645181

https://ep70.eventpilot.us/web/page.php?nav=false&page=IntHtml&project=ASHG18&id=180120617

https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/151397566.pdf

Now I would like to see all your sources about gay men being pedos.

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 02:14:03 AM No. 455202

>>455188
>>455191
>>455193
Why did you reply three times, and then reply to yourself in >>455197? You're so damn embarrassing.

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 02:15:53 AM No. 455204

>>455202

I’m on mobile. I don’t double check when the page jumps up to the top to reply.

But it’s okay, we’ll just pretend that you’ve never made any mistakes in your lifetime for the sake of your fragile ego

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 02:17:05 AM No. 455205

>>455197
>Straight men can be pedos but the moment you pull out the statistics about homosexual pedos they lose their shit.
It's well established that anybody can be a child sex abuser, anon.

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 02:17:22 AM No. 455206

>>455204
That makes no sense. Being on mobile makes you forget which posts you made and agree with yourself?
Lmao.

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 02:18:09 AM No. 455207

>>455202

I just double checked and you’re mistaken lmao

I’m not the only one disagreeing with you.

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 02:19:43 AM No. 455210

>>455206

No, reading comprehension is obviously not a skill you possess, so I won’t bother trying to explain it to you.

I will however reiterate the fact that I and whoever disagrees with you aren’t the same person but ok

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 02:21:34 AM No. 455212

>>455207
>>455210
I'm not the person you're arguing with, I just noticed your multiple posts. "Mistaken", sure. Cringy.
>y-your reading comprehension
You're right, anon. I totally always reply to my own posts with "I agree, anon", lol. That's normal.

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 02:23:51 AM No. 455213

>>455212

The post I replied to is not my own, so you’re not really accomplishing much here

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 02:26:06 AM No. 455214

>>455193
>the same trauma that increased your chances of becoming an homosexual.
People don't become homosexual because of trauma.

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 02:28:31 AM No. 455216

>>455214

Aren’t there people who were abused that turned to homosexual acts that aren’t actually attracted to the same sex? Pretty sure I’ve heard that somewhere.

Or maybe trauma activates the gay gene.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 02:29:38 AM No. 455217

>>455202

You are not replying to just one person. I know it must be difficult to take in.

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 02:32:06 AM No. 455218

>>455216
Being exclusively same-sex attracted is what makes someone a homosexual. People can commit homosexual acts but that doesn't mean their sexual orientation is homosexual.

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 02:32:20 AM No. 455219

>>455201
>suggesting the possibility

that sums it all up

umm try harder sweaty. These are all hypothetical and theoretical. I want to get my blood tested to see if what percentage of straight i am, where can i? maybe i discover i am genderfluid or an otherkin after all.

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 02:34:33 AM No. 455220

>>455219
You're right that those studies are inconclusive since homosexuality is a highly complex combination of genetics and hormones but where are all your sources about gay men being pedos then.

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 02:36:59 AM No. 455224

>>455223
>Kurt Freund

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 02:38:57 AM No. 455226

>>455223
I love how you give 1 source from the same man who knew that this study was flawed as fuck.

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 02:45:26 AM No. 455229

>>455226

Your inconclusive studies about this gays gene are valid but anons isn’t?

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 02:46:51 AM No. 455231

>>455229
Fruend himself knew his study was flawed in it's methodology and it was discussed by Herek.

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 02:47:37 AM No. 455232

>>455229
A few inconclusive study vs. one completely bullshit study. Lol, that makes sense.

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 02:56:23 AM No. 455238

>>455229
I'm sure vaccines cause autism too, anon.

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 03:07:38 AM No. 455245

>>455229
If you actually read the study you would know that pedos are more likely to abuse boys because they are in contact with boys more often. Other sexologists have criticised the methodology because girls who are sexually abused may be groomed into thinking sexual abuse is "normal". Pedophiles are often categorised as their own thing in sexology, neither homosexual nor heterosexual as they are disgusted by adults of either sex. Freund used confusing terminology because he calls the pedos who molest boys "homosexual pedophiles" but then calls actual homosexual men "androphilic". Although this is somewhat understandable because sexology tends to use a lot of words interchangeably or differently from how they are used in a non-academic setting.

His final sentence in the abstract even states gay men are not more likely to be offenders:
>This, of course, would not indicate that androphilic males have a greater propensity to offend against children.

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 03:43:49 AM No. 455255

>pedophiles as most homosexuals are prone to be
>homosexuals commit around half the total number of molestation
>these “people” cannot stand anything that puts a dark cloud over their rainbow land
>the same trauma that increased your chances of becoming an homosexual
>trauma activates the gay gene

What the fuck

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 05:23:46 AM No. 455264

LMAO did yall see Nikita Dragun at the VMAs…. totally not a fetish

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 05:41:07 AM No. 455266

>>455264
There’s loads of stuff wrong with Nikita Dragun.

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 05:59:27 AM No. 455267

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>>455264
I had to look it up, but… whew.

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 06:11:12 AM No. 455268

>>455267
annoying bc it'd be legit if it wasn't a Troon

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 06:15:06 AM No. 455269

>>455267

Average Pride parade flair except not in front of school children in the middle of the day (for a change)

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 07:02:49 AM No. 455275

TiMs have always been sexist but it feels like in the last year they have become way more sexist and also creepier towards women.

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 07:05:19 AM No. 455276

>>455269
Have you actually been to a pride parade in the last five years? They've been trying really hard to be PC and family-friendly.

Please fuck off, Homophobe-chan. This is a thread for trannies, not for gay people. Go wave your hate-boner for faggots around somewhere else.

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 07:15:17 AM No. 455277

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>>455267

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 07:18:42 AM No. 455278

daily reminder that transgenders are here to destroy society

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 07:34:10 AM No. 455281

>>455275
Lmao I think it's been going for the past decade. Blanchard actually said that most TiMs are heterosexual these days so lot of TiMs perv on women (especially lesbians who will give their identities validation or something?) but this was unheard of back in the past when they were all HSTS. I've noticed a lot of TiMs are weirdly obsessed with anime, porn, and for some reason a lot of them are Nazis too. I knew a TiM who was a complete weeaboo. He loved to post racist anti-Korean memes and listened to vaporwave.

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 07:38:14 AM No. 455282

Aight so this is more radfem related but I want some advice. My bf doesn't watch porn or look at erotic images, etc involving real people or even anime shit. However he likes to read erotica instead. Is this as bad as normal porn and as/similarly potentially damaging, and should I talk to him about it? I can see it creating unrealistic expectations but I've been ok with him enjoying it for a while since it doesn't involve exploiting women. However reading more and more radfem and gc stuff about the dangers of porn on relationships I'm now not so sure what to do about it. Or am I just being paranoid?

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 07:51:37 AM No. 455283

>>455267
his attempts at trying to be a bad bitch that gets all the hot guys uwu crack me up because almost every good looking man around him is paid lmao

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 07:54:04 AM No. 455285

>>455282
You could try posting this in the radfem thread >>373459

In my opinion, erotica is nowhere near the same level as filmed pornography as you aren't exploiting women but it depends on what he's reading. What's the content like? I know some men read some really nasty shit and they think it's okay because it's not "real" but they're still getting off to detailed descriptions of young girls being raped. Some men enjoy really fluffy romance but won't ever admit to it. Men really think reading about women being violated is more "interesting" and "meaningful" than reading about happy couples in love.

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 07:58:50 AM No. 455286

>>455282
No, my mum reads erotica. A lot of it is written for women even. The Harlequin novels are shit but they're harmless and have been around for yonks.

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 08:00:43 AM No. 455287

>>455282
In my opinion, erotica is way less harmful than video porn.
It could set in unrealistic expectations but it will not have the same effect as video porn. Porn fry the reward system in the brain because human brains are not meant to see that much sexual content. The more you see (and the brain basically doesn't differenciate between images and the real thing), the more images and the more extreme things you'll need to see to get the same arousal.
Erotica doesn't work that way. You still have to do the work and imagine things to get the arousal. Reading is an higher effort task than watching videos, you're less likely to end up reading erotica all day. It still could get bad in the long term (watch for changes in frequency and theme of the erotica) but I don't think it could lead to the rapid and disgusting decay men watching frequent porn experience.

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 08:11:42 AM No. 455291

>>455282
I don't think erotica is that bad compared to porn but I know many men prefer to read messed up stuff like sadomasochism, impregnation and female sex slaves.

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 08:13:13 AM No. 455292

>>455282
casual consumption of any kind of porn & porn adjacent by a male is probably unhealthy. especially porn made by and pandering to men. male fantasies have to be some of the most disgusting pieces of writing on the net.

imo erotica has the potential to be so much worse precisely bc it doesn't involve real people so no one cares.

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 08:15:28 AM No. 455293

>>455292
Yeah, The 120 Days of Sodom is erotica written by a man and it's nasty but treated as "high art" lmao. Even "tamer" works like the Gor novels are still damn nasty.

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 08:29:31 AM No. 455295

>>455286
I think a lot of the erotica women read is vastly different from what men read.

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 09:01:19 AM No. 455302

>>455293
right, look at any "non porn" media made by men, they're often colored with their sexual proclivities. now imagine if it was ramped up to porn levels and hidden in walls of text most people won't bother to read.

you guys have seen how troons describe their sexual fantasies (to bring this a bit back on topic). male erotica is pretty much that, but oftentimes worse. troons in particular have infected lesbian erotica ofc, which was always overwhelmed by the common porn tropes, but now when the two women get down to business one of them is a troon, whips out a monster dong, and proceeds to have degrading PIV sex.

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 09:10:55 AM No. 455306

>>455282
I would argue that written erotica is better, because real people aren't being exploited, and because it isn't instant gratification. Reading a book or a fanfic takes a long time, so the build-up to an orgasm is going to take longer. Jerking it to 20 porn videos in an hour is what gives guys ED, but spending an hour reading one smutty passage simulates foreplay more. Plus, focusing on one thing for that amount of time makes it less likely that he'll get distracted by/move on to more degenerate fetishes.

I would say that your boyfriend is making a much better choice than most men. Unless he starts reading really weird stuff with sexual violence or really degenrate fetishes, I would leave him be.

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 09:58:20 AM No. 455316

are these trad thots those trad-thot third worlder chrisfags from tumblr?

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 10:00:00 AM No. 455317

>>455316
this bitch and her christfag friends https://shabayesitia.tumblr.com/

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 10:57:22 AM No. 455332

>>455283
Yeah and he looks more like an insecure tryhard than a bad bitch in general, whether he pays guys to be is boyfriends or he shit talks Bretman Rock's sister on camera right to her face.

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 11:13:03 AM No. 455334

>>455317
She's a Turk nationalist and doesn't even interact with radblr much, she mostly hangs around her "dark aesthetic" friends. I don't even know why calls herself a "lowkey radfem" when she's going around making fun of the Armenia genocide and thinks lesbians only exist because they are traumatized by horrible relationships with men.

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 11:24:39 AM No. 455337

>>455334
These women like radical feminism because it talks about sex-based oppression and they don't like trannies but they're all straight and super homophobic due to their religious upbringings even if radical feminism criticises compulsory heterosexuality and homophobia as manifestations of patriarchy… One of them actually has radfem quotes plus violent porn on their blog. What even?

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 11:28:31 AM No. 455338

>>455317
I don't understand how you can be a radical feminist and Christian at the same time tbh. They all say vile homophobic shit and worship men so I wouldn't be surprised if it was them.

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 11:33:30 AM No. 455340

Don’t want to put myself and screenshot but people celebrating Magdalen being on her deathbed is all over my Facebook timeline and it’s making me so fucking sad. So evil.

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 01:04:41 PM No. 455367

>>455340
Sounds like you have some people you need to unfollow. Luckily, if you unfollow instead of unfriend, their crap goes way from your timeline withoit them getting notified.

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 02:06:55 PM No. 455385

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https://docs.google.com/document/d/18i9C1vsSo8Pq5lLqiyuKXCOrg2aB8jVBIJEMJMXwO8I
A woman working on some adult swim show has come forward about being abused by a tranny also working on the show with her. fucking typical

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 03:11:13 PM No. 455397

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>>455385
After lurking his meme Instagram/Twitter I wanted to see what this lad looked like. Only picture I could find on Google, yikes.

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 03:56:09 PM No. 455406

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>>455397
absolutely disgusting kek, can’t believe that woman even humoured him by using she/her pronouns, fuck him

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 04:24:13 PM No. 455416

>>455397
oh my god I can't believe Doug Demuro would do this I'm crying rn

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 04:47:48 PM No. 455425

>>455406
Why do I have a feeling that she wouldn’t have humored an actual female as much as she did for this dude?

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 07:35:54 PM No. 455484

>>455425
I mean she was probably terrified of him the entire time and thought giving him what he wants might make him leave her alone

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 07:59:57 PM No. 455492

Remember when Bowsette was a thing? Thinking back on it that gave off major AGP vibes. The worst part is I saw just how many straight guys, not necessarily TIMs (though lots of them), were into it. Even to straight men, womanhood is seen as fetish fuel. Ugh

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 08:54:14 PM No. 455509

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>>455406
I checked his IG and his comments are in shambles (as expected), but what the fuck is this all about?

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 08:58:36 PM No. 455511

I'm not sure if this has been asked before, but are there such things as gender critical Discord servers? I'd like to join one if any exist.

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 09:09:44 PM No. 455513

When this came up in my recommended, I thought it would be Pierre just just jumping on the bandwagon of people NOW saying something about Yaniv after his stream with Blair. Pleasantly surprised when it started asking (even mild) gender critical questions. He definitely has a point that others have also noticed, after the stream now a lot more people use male pronouns to refer to Yaniv. Pronouns he explicitly doesn't want used for himself.

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 09:23:35 PM No. 455518

When you’re the only one in your psych class that doesn’t think gender dysphoria should be removed from the DSM kek…I have no faith left in this field.

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 09:31:36 PM No. 455521

>>455518
Removing it is not completely a bad thing. If it gets removed then people will start seeing it as a cosmetic procedure rather than a medical one which means health insurance and taxpayer dollars will no longer cover it.

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 09:46:20 PM No. 455531

>>455521
Oh yeah I understand that reasoning but the professor phrased it in a way that was basically “most trans people aren’t mentally ill so it should it really be in there” like ok buddy sure…

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 09:59:46 PM No. 455537

>>455515
As much as i agree with the sentiment of this post, I've seen many members of the lgbt community call this drag children bullshit out, but unfortunately, the media is too scared to criticise this kind of stuff because they suck up to trans/liberal feminists too hard.

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 10:10:47 PM No. 455540

>>455515
For the 500th time: this. is. not. a. thread. about. gay. men. Read the damn title. It's a thread about fucking trannies.

Please go back to /pol/, homophobe-chan. No one wants you here.

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 10:12:58 PM No. 455541

>>455515
this thread is full of dykes what does gay men's shit have to do with them to my knowledge lesbians and women in general aren't exactly known for being huge sexual predators

kys already

Anonymous 08/29/19 (Thu) 10:25:17 PM No. 455547

>>454654
Incredible, 29 women were killed at the hands of their husband in the last two months in France alone. 80 were killed since the begining of the year, again, in France alone. And thats just husbands killing their wives, I'm not even counting all the brothers killing their sisters etc…

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 12:37:38 AM No. 455566

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I couldn't think of a creative one sorry

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 12:46:14 AM No. 455570

>>454656
fuck, I love this!

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 12:47:46 AM No. 455572

>>454739
>attacking a rape relief and women's shelter

WHAT THE FUCK. Men just being shit men, i see

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 12:56:57 AM No. 455576

>>455574
hentai is the same energy as written stuff tho.

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 12:57:41 AM No. 455577

>>454654

Did that stupid faggot ignore the first half of history and… the recent part of now as well? Women have been getting killed just for existing by men forever.

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 01:01:06 AM No. 455579

>>455531
I dont get people who dont see trans as mentally ill.

If i came into work tomorrow and decided i wanted to be a black woman, i'd get fired for wearing black face and being an insulting caricature. (rightfully so)

But if a man wants to larp as a woman, he gets treated with more rights than a REAL WOMAN. This is not the world i want for my future children.

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 01:39:36 AM No. 455584

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When do you farmers think being trans will stop being trendy?
The thought of a lot of young people buying into this only to regret later in life when the damage has already been done is terrifying to me.

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 02:11:52 AM No. 455596

>>455566
Sailor Moon says trans women are men!

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 02:17:55 AM No. 455599

>>455579
That race comparison isn’t the best since “race” is a human social construct based on phenotypes invented as a pseudo-science to justify European colonialism while sex is a biological reality found in all sexually reproducing species. I do agree that a man can’t just identify as a woman though or a white person can’t just identify as black though.

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 02:19:21 AM No. 455600

>>455584
>real feminism
Lol what does this mean. There are so many branches of feminism and so many of them completely contradict each other.

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 02:20:13 AM No. 455601

>>455584
So they say they don’t want to interact with homophobes but they will probably tell gay men to eat pussy.

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 02:21:24 AM No. 455602

>>455521
I would be so mad if my taxes were going to a sex change procedure for a prison inmate.

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 02:29:52 AM No. 455606

>>455600
Feminism that caters to men and puts men's needs first, obviously duh

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 02:35:26 AM No. 455609

>>455602
Especially sex offenders.

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 02:38:44 AM No. 455610

>>455600
Ecofems: women are beings with an innate connection to nature
Libfems: women are anybody who identifies as one
Radfems: women are the sex that produces ova
Confems: women are destined to be wives and mothers
Matfems: women don’t exist actually

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 02:53:10 AM No. 455619

>>455609
Tbh, having his dick turned inside out and balls cut off is quite the satisfying thought.

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 03:09:32 AM No. 455637

>>455619
I guess? But that doesn’t mean they can’t sexually offend without their penis.

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 03:18:07 AM No. 455639

>>455566
What anime characters are troons most obsessed with?

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 03:26:46 AM No. 455640

>>455639
TiMs like Madoka characters, Eva girls, cutesy trap characters. Enbyfags like Komaeda from Dangan Ronpa. Don’t know about TiFs.

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 03:38:17 AM No. 455642

>>455267
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/224819326/

Troon starts crying about having no sex drive after literally cutting off their balls.

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 04:03:12 AM No. 455652

>>455642
I don’t understand the troons that get orchiectomies.

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 04:34:05 AM No. 455663

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Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 06:27:02 AM No. 455677

>>455642
>my desire to transition has dissipated completely which is giving my strong vibes that it was only a fetish and I straight up ruined everything

so to get a man to think straight you just need to castrate him, duly noted

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 07:12:05 AM No. 455684

I know that this is old as hell, but lmao I never thought I'd side with Jake Paul

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 08:11:02 AM No. 455697

>loads of butches, tomboys, and other GNC women identifying as genderqueer or non-binary

This makes me really angry.

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 08:18:56 AM No. 455700

>>455697
it's honestly fucking saddening. also
>loads of bisexual women and lesbians identifying as pansexual or some other made up tumblr sexuality

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 08:25:26 AM No. 455701

File: 1567153526204.jpg (Spoiler Image,40.71 KB, 621x643, 1535668762411.jpg)

>>455697
>This makes me really angry.

Wait to you remove the spoiler. (nsfw btw)

Your welcome. Happy nightmares

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 08:26:53 AM No. 455702

>>455701
WHAT THE FUCK

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 08:27:21 AM No. 455703

>>455701
nightmare fuel. definitely not mutiliation guys

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 08:30:26 AM No. 455704

>>455599
I think OP was talking more akin to gender (and the stereotypes attached to the female sex), rather /than/ sex.

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 08:51:01 AM No. 455710

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>>455701
I would refuse to even touch that thing! Forget about letting it penetrate me. It's flesh dildo. It's a ham sausage!

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 08:51:03 AM No. 455711

>>455642
That second one made me feel so sick and so SAD. Like is this shit real? I thought the whole 'infected wound' was a meem? Most seem OK, but my word doctors in hospitals not knowing what to do with neovaginas complications, because of lack of experience or just because the person is trying to hide it, is TRUELY frightening. Oh My God. I think I've lost my appetite.

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 08:53:06 AM No. 455712

>>455684
i hate team 10 but how were they doing anything wrong? he was extremely calm and polite in the way he told them to leave.

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 09:24:43 AM No. 455719

>>455701
That poor lesbian :(

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 09:28:49 AM No. 455720

>>455639
>>455640
I find it funny how mtf troons talk so much about magical girls anime like they're experts and it's the only type of stories targeting girls and women, while also completely ignoring best-selling shojo manga and popular or classic shojo anime like Fruits Basket, Nana, Hana Yori Dango, Otomen, Switch Girl, Kare Kano, Sugar Sugar Rune, Mermaid Melody, etc. (these ones are magical girl anime and manga they never talk about for some reason) etc. which are super popular and relatable to the female audience. They also don't seem to realize that many magical girls anime they used to watch as kids didn't make them realize they're trans and were very popular with boys as well, like Magical Doremi, Utena, Sailor Moon, Cardcaptor Sakura, etc.

tldr; troons like to pretend they were always little girls deep inside by saying they liked magical girls as kids while a lot of boys also liked magical girls anime or because they can relate to female characters written by men for men or a large audience anyway.

>Enbyfags like Komaeda from Dangan Ronpa.
They also like Kaworu from EVA a lot, and characters based on him as well.

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 09:41:17 AM No. 455723

>>455720

Magical girl is just like shonen with cuter aesthetic, of course a lot of boys like it too. And shonen despite the name is also made for a wide audience, there's a shit ton of girls that grew up watching the same shonen anime as the boys without suddenly believing themselves to be males. I always liked Dragon ball, saint seiya, rurouni kenshin, naruto, so what. Every convention floor is full of cosplaying girls that like some characters from shonen shows or have their husbandos. Some girls like capeshit and that doesn't even make them gay.

Pink used to be an strictly male color. Red was seen as male because it represents passion, so pink was a slightly boyish version of red. And blue was feminine because it was seen as a pasive cool color. This stuff is completely arbitrary and cultural, now the opposite is agreed upon, pink is feminine and blue is boyish, so wtf with dudes claiming that if you like pink that means you think like a girl? none of this shit is biological. Male nobles use to wear high heals darnit, this is all fashion nonsense not actual biological facts.

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 09:52:24 AM No. 455725

>>455723
>And shonen despite the name is also made for a wide audience, there's a shit ton of girls that grew up watching the same shonen anime as the boys without suddenly believing themselves to be males.
Shonen is seen as the default tbh, especially the type of things you'd see published in the Shonen Jump. In surveys you can see that manga published in shonen magazines have a wider female audience like Gintama or Black Butler. And speaking as a European I can tell you that other shojo anime that were very popular with little boys long ago were sports shojo like Attacker You! or Hikari no Densetsu.

I guess the equivalent of "I realized I was a transgirl uwu because of anime" would rather be girls who read BL and slash fanfics made by women for women, find the male main characters endearing and relatable and suddenly "understand" that they were "gay transbois uwu" all along. Transwomen who sperg about magical girls tend to be into yuri and most of them are "transbians" anyway so it makes sense.

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 10:14:56 AM No. 455728

>>455642
On other hand this is so devastating I can't imagine what it would be like to live with the knowledge that you've permanently fucked up your body for a fetish but on other hand I love seeing these irl bimbofication larping misogynists get btfo's by their autogynephilia

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 10:33:41 AM No. 455731

>>455642
kek, i have no sympathy. you wanna chauvinistically meme yourself into mutilation through anime and porn while also most likely hating real women (never seen a tranny that wasn't a chauvinistic emotional abuser at the least)? you deserve your necrotic, pus-oozing 'vulva'

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 10:46:36 AM No. 455736

I agree with all the sexologists who think the mass reports of gender dysphoria at the moment are the result of a behavorial contagion. I spent most of my teenage years on tumblr and I was constantly guilted by others into identifying as non-binary because I wasn't super feminine. I started seeing new genders and sexualities popping up every week. I always remained skeptical and I started secretly reading radfem blogs (like lesbolution and dykesupremacy who are now long gone). I was uncomfortable at first so maybe it was a form of hate-reading because I was brainwashed by all the trans shit, but then I realized these lesbian bloggers made more sense than anyone. My first peak trans moment was when otherkin started getting popular though. How did you stumble into gender crit stuff, anons?

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 10:54:05 AM No. 455737

>>455736
Samefagging here but I wish researchers would mention the effects of the internet and how teenagers spend hours every day for years inside those echo chambers. It molds huge parts of the personalities. Teenagers are highly impressionable and will do anything to fit in.

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 10:55:15 AM No. 455738

>>455731

Women are trooning and mutilating their pussies too you know. You better be sure to not have kids if this is your take on it, if you plan to be a mother you know this is only going to get worse and the moment your kids go to school they will start getting bombarded with rainbow woke shit gaslighting them into this behaviour 24/7 by every institution, authority figure and even cartoons and media, so better be prepared in case is your pride and joy of a daughter is the one on the butcher table. She'll probably be calling you a fascist and a narc on reddit too if you are not endorsing her decission, the whole of society will validate her and push her to fuck herself up, this is not how mentally ill people need to be treated, the communities around these people are failing them, medical institutions and politicians are using them as cannon fodder, they are encouraged to dissociate from friends and family that concern for them, this is not right.

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 10:56:49 AM No. 455739

>>455640
TiFs LOVE Link from The Legend of Zelda.

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 11:03:11 AM No. 455740

>>455720
Hana Yori Dango is the best-selling shoujo manga of all time even though it's trash but it's not discussed much in the West when compared to East Asia.

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 11:06:51 AM No. 455742

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Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 11:15:43 AM No. 455744

>>455742
it's almost like even men who want to be women so bad hold a power against women who want to be men within their own community. it's almost like females are oppressed by the basis of their biology.

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 11:23:36 AM No. 455747

>>455742
Shocker, men don't take women trying to enter their space seriously and it actually upsets transmen. When women are vocal about our space getting invaded we're labelled terfs and harassed.

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 11:32:02 AM No. 455748

>>455742
It is pretty weird how often I hear people say "trans women are women" and not "trans men are men". If trans men were truly men then why aren't they always the centre of attention like other men? The media is biased towards men, the medical industry is biased towards men, the law is biased towards men, and research into sexuality is biased towards men, but then somehow research into gender dysphoria is biased towards trans "women".

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 11:45:01 AM No. 455751

I'm so creeped out by all the troons who want uterus transplants and want women to donate their uteri to them. They're so entitled and misogynist like all men. All they ever want do is take from women and I can see them guilting infertile, postmenopausal or deceased women in the future for not donating their uteri.

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 11:54:05 AM No. 455753

>>455751
The womb envy is some of the creepiest shit

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 11:57:14 AM No. 455754

>>455748
Their main excuse is probably "Well, trans women need more support because they get murdered more often and don't pass as easily as trans men do!".

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 12:40:00 PM No. 455767

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>>455736
I was following a butch lesbian for a while on tumblr for their politics

then I realized it was a dude. being a straight guy, performing as a straight guy, projecting like a straight guy, and calling himself a dyke. I peak’d

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 12:47:48 PM No. 455768

File: 1567169268458.png (36.53 KB, 1171x348, 8798.PNG)

Maybe it's because they think homosexuality is worse and not because they are trying to be more "progressive" than the United States.

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 01:00:58 PM No. 455774

>>455736
It was all because of non-binary bullshit. This guy who followed me on tumblr and who I talked to because we had a mutual friend began to identify as non-binary. He went on rants about how he hated men, that they were so sexist and how he was glad he wasn't one lmao. A lot of the men who identify as enbies think they lose their male privilege and gain oppression points. Soon everyone around me began to identify as non-binary out of nowhere. Everyone started putting their preferred pronouns in their description even though in the early years of tumblr madness they would say preferred pronouns were only necessary for the trans people who weren't passing yet. All these enbies would even say they did not need dysphoria to be trans or they thought dysphoria was just not being completely gender conforming. I thought this was complete bullshit but I kept it to myself. Then I heard about 'TERF' after people started criticising enbies and researched I into it.

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 01:10:12 PM No. 455777

File: 1567170612237.jpg (211.02 KB, 1250x1280, 21321.jpg)

/tttt/ is so weird

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 01:10:53 PM No. 455778

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Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 01:12:21 PM No. 455779

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Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 01:27:22 PM No. 455780

>>455736
around preteen age I became a bit gender dysphoric and started questioning my sexuality. I think looking up lesbian stuff led me to radfem stuff. I agreed with the abolishing of gender roles but internalized lesbophobia won and scared me away from radfem for a while. in my high school health/sex Ed class we watched a video on gender and poor me was hoping to get my gender roles abolishment ideas validated only to watch some chick with a Biebercut say she's non-binary bc she played with trucks and Barbie. they literally interviewed her standing in the girls/boys toy aisle like… in the boys section and wearing a bowtie then in the girls section with a dress on. I guess that was my first peak trans moment.

back when I was more dysphoric o remember thinking, "would life be better if I was a boy?" and I couldn't imagine what it would be like as a boy getting male socialization so i dropped it and decided maybe if I was prettier/skinnier life would be better (it would be easier to be androgynous).

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 01:28:40 PM No. 455781

>>455701
If I were a doctor I would outright refuse to do something like this.

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 01:33:52 PM No. 455785

File: 1567172032398.png (3.85 MB, 2560x1440, transwomenaremen.png)

>>455596
That's so much better

>>455639
Troons love felix the anime cat boy, the male maid from blend s, and the boy zombie from the zombie show

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 01:42:07 PM No. 455788

>>455785
They also love the characters from Madoka Magica, especially Akemi Homura.
I saw some delusional bullshit thread on /lgbt/ where people were claiming Homura (a depressed high school girl who repeatedly tries to bend time/fate to save her best friend and/or crush's life) is a character only AGP scrotes can relate to, because actual women are too "privileged" to understand that kind of suffering (actual lesbians being no exception).

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 01:47:03 PM No. 455790

tims are validated by girls written by men, and tifs are validated by boys written by women…. science is powerful….

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 01:47:33 PM No. 455791

>>455774
Enbies spread like a virus. Suddenly everyone is an enby.

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 01:49:46 PM No. 455793

>>455385
His instagram feels extremely male. More male than other male instagrammers.
https://www.instagram.com/gangsterpopeye/

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 01:56:38 PM No. 455797

File: 1567173398512.png (535.31 KB, 854x514, thatthing.png)

>>455793
jesus fucking christ

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 02:22:23 PM No. 455801

>>455684
Why do they all talk like the most stereotypical prissy bitch? Literally looks and acts like a gay man in a wig and some eyelashes. Noticed most troons are massive attention seeking narcs just like 'cis' men

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 02:26:24 PM No. 455802

>>455797
I'm unsurprised this is the gangsterpopeye guy

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 04:03:23 PM No. 455822

>>455566
I really like these

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 04:03:23 PM No. 455823

>>455566
I really like these

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 04:06:58 PM No. 455824

>>455684
If they were able to tell you're men then no, the girls aren't here.

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 04:12:18 PM No. 455825

>>455684
Why do trannys like to say period so much?

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 04:27:29 PM No. 455827

>>455797
His face is so tiny compared to his head kek

>>455825
Trannies talk more about periods than any cis woman I've met. Funny, that– women are told their periods are disgusting and to not talk about them, but suddenly when men masquerade as women it's okay.

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 04:52:03 PM No. 455831

>>455797
Looks like a prototype cro-magnon man wearing crappy eyeliner and dollar store hoop rings

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 05:01:06 PM No. 455832

>>455827
>women are told their periods are disgusting and to not talk about them, but suddenly when men masquerade as women it's okay.
pretty much anything women get shit on for trannies are praised for
trannies cursing = yaass queen
women cursing = be lady like you disgusting western roastie
trannies clubbing, drinking, dancing, etc = yaaass queen be free
women doing the same = disgusting evil roastie
trannies buying makeup, getting their hair and nails done, getting plastic surgery, etc = yaas queen you do you
women doing the same = stop being a fake gross bitch

it's so unfair, I wish more trannies were treated like women, they'd be forced to act like boring human beings and wouldn't be handed free shit

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 06:02:45 PM No. 455840

>>455832
>I wish more trannies were treated like women
This, especially since they're so fucking attention seeking. A hulking ogre of a man can smear some lipstick on his neanderthal face and post it like "u-uwu please be gentle I'm twansitioning and I'm finally confident enough to wear makeup!" and the entire world population will kiss his fucking ass, but god forbid a woman reveal that she's female on the internet. Then comes the barrage of comments accusing her of attention seeking and making creepy objectifying comments about her appearance even though her looks have nothing to do with the post.

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 06:11:50 PM No. 455845

Something that angers me about transwomen is how they definitely wouldn't identify as women in any other time/place.

There are so many historic instances of women disguising themselves as men, yet almost none of men doing so? (Googling "history women disguised as men" yields expected results, whereas "history men disguised as women" yields…results of women disguising themselves as men, lol)

Transwomen didn't present as women when being a woman meant being sold like cattle.
Transwomen didn't present as women when being a woman meant not being allowed to vote.
Transwomen didn't present as women when being a woman meant your husband could deny you the right to work and could treat you however he wanted without legal consequences.

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 06:38:09 PM No. 455854

>>455845
I've seen trannies post how they'd love to be brainless housewife bots that serve men in the 50's, don't underestimate the sissy fantasy.

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 06:44:03 PM No. 455855

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Hilarious. They've also infected the girl gamers subreddit.

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 06:48:31 PM No. 455858

>>455854
Yeah cause I'm sure a man from the sexist fucking 50s would have loved to have a tranny as a kept women. These freaks are deranged. No wonder majority of them are some offshoot weeb or gamer faggot. They literally think women have life on easy mode because men are raised to objectify women more than men. Yeah no shit you're obsessed with women, your entire sex is. I don't get men. Do they learn about reproduction and figure out they're just not that bioloigcally important as an individual. Men can rot. No one cares.

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 07:51:41 PM No. 455869

Everybody is saying shit like "if a man did this he would be getting dragged…just because she's a woman…".
No, she is a tranny, this is simply a man doing disgusting male things.

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 07:59:57 PM No. 455872

File: 1567195196970.jpg (1.71 MB, 1130x2459, 1549315023207.jpg)

>>455642
Fuck I honestly hope that pic related is just some /pol/ falseflag trolling because I don't wish this on anyone
I honestly don't care if men want to chop their dicks off but it's terrifying how it's sold as a miracle cure when the rejection, infection and suicide rates are so high. Don't trans people want better surgery and aftercare? There needs to be more honesty around SRS

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 08:25:12 PM No. 455878

>>455872
This seems quite common. There's a lot of stories of people dying after bad vagina SRS,with the leaking not getting fixed which just open up a person to infections.

I will never understand the mindset you have to want to butcher your otherwise functional region that deals with riding the body of waste. There is so much to consider. This is my main objection to the whole movement.

There is not enough research in all aspects from medical to psychological. The fact that America has walk in clinics you can just sign a bit of paper and get access to hormones that can make you infertile.

There is so much to lose, just to gain an aesthetic part. If being one of the genders is only a mindset why the necessity of butchering healthy people for shallow pursuits? How can you be born without a female reproductive system and convince yourself it's what your missing in life. It's absolutely fucking insane

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 08:36:43 PM No. 455881

>>455855
Let me get this straight: the users of r/actuallesbians are 50x more likely than the average Redditor to be on tranny subs? So basically, most of actuallesbians users are trannies. Nice.

Are there any honest-to-god lesbians in that sub, or is it all just bisexual girls, lying straight girls, and trannies? It kind of cracks me up that these perverts obviously fetishize lesbians and the idea of being surrounded by lesbians, only to be surrounded by other male perverts with the same idea the moment they "infiltrate" lesbian spaces.

Thank Christ for that one lesbian sub that's invite-only and excludes trannies. Those women are doing god's work.

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 08:47:34 PM No. 455883

I need to vent.

My aunt was going on about her coworker who adopted a boy from Brazil and the boy's now a trans (mtf). It was unclear whether he transed before or after adoption.
This kid is like 15 and the guy is divorced and middle aged. The whole thing sounds super sketchy to me on so many levels.
But of course everyone is singing his praises for adopting the teen, and the boy is sooo brave for the trans.

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 08:59:42 PM No. 455887

>>455883
Here in Brazil, as with most other homophobic 3rd world countries, trans-identified men are often HSTS, so it could be that it started before adoption.
That really seems like a terrifying scenario, unlikely as it is I hope it's just a sketchy-seeming situation and the boy isn't actually being sexually abused.

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 09:02:38 PM No. 455889

>>455869
Yawn, another man showing off his multiple fetishes in public.
Also Rammstein did it first at the end of this video and had better drag, copycat.

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 09:16:01 PM No. 455897

>>455855
Why cant they stay in their own space?? like, create a tranny only sub and stay there. it's so disgusting that real women are always bothered by men. Always

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 09:16:59 PM No. 455899

>>455889
Bless for reminding me of this. Exactly, he's still a man. and what are they saying?? If a woman did this (a real one) she'd get dragged for being a 'slut' and a 'whore'

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 09:30:19 PM No. 455909

>>455872
I'm surprised the moral of the story here was to find a better doctor, and not just to forego the whole operation together? Some people take their fetishes too far

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 09:33:11 PM No. 455911

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Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 09:43:48 PM No. 455916

>>455872
I get the impression that most SRS surgeons know most trans people are far too low functioning in every sense to sue them so don't bother honing their skills to the extent that a surgeon actually doing real medical procedures would or even a plastic surgeon who might get their career ended if they mess up a rich clients face.

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 10:11:05 PM No. 455923

>>455827
But if women talk about their periods they’re terfs

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 10:13:42 PM No. 455926

>>455845
No, trans women have always existed, see >>454515

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 10:19:41 PM No. 455929

File: 1567203581872.png (142.02 KB, 795x979, sexpests.png)

>>455797
https://mobile.twitter.com/benadrool/status/1167083347400695810

Troons being offended by the word "sex pest" kek. Even that sounds too cute and pet name like for what they've been accused of(being a pedophile allegedly, being a fucking creep ect.)

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 10:21:15 PM No. 455931

>>455894
The removal of homosexuality as a mental illness began long before the gay community organized collective action and it was among the psychiatrists that had been administering conversion therapy who wanted it removed because they realized that the sexualities couldn’t change.

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 10:23:07 PM No. 455932

>>455931
Ignore them, that’s homophobe-chan.

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 10:34:07 PM No. 455935

>>455785
I'd like to do more of these but i can't think of any good quotes.

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 10:36:03 PM No. 455936

>>455926
Autogynophilia having existed for a long time doesn’t justify how disgusting agp is.

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 10:37:43 PM No. 455938

>>455926
and yet there's no evidence that they're anything but men larping as women due to being fragile little bitches who cant handle being real men in society who happen to like what's considered feminine things. instead of breaking boundaries, they're encouraging them.

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 10:38:23 PM No. 455940

>>455937
No, psychiatrists were already discussing the removal of homosexuality in the 40-50s.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 10:41:01 PM No. 455942

>began long before the gay community organized collective action
>lying this hard
>it happened in 1973 at the peak of gay activism and harassment.

Just in time for the AIDS and Syphilis epidemic to break out.

Fuck americans for allowing this and trying to gaslight the rest of the world into it. Your politics are degenerate and the rest of the world should fight them and keep this shit out.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 10:42:05 PM No. 455944

>>455942
It was European countries at the forefront of decriminalising homosexuality, actually.

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 10:44:56 PM No. 455945

>>455642
They really think women smell like fish?

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 10:47:49 PM No. 455947

>>455945
Yup. Also that they get worse at maths and driving, but like, totally talk more and become really intuitive with feeeeeeelings.

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 10:57:26 PM No. 455950

>>455642
>tfw hate trannies more than /pol/ does
It’s probably because I’ve been targeted by trannies for being a real woman. They make nasty comments about my body, want me to paint their nails and they wished women would donate wombs to them.

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 10:59:49 PM No. 455952

>>455950
Trannies are way more dangerous towards women because men in general are threats to women. There’s really no comparison with straight men getting afraid of fucking one.

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 11:00:58 PM No. 455954

>>455929
they don’t like any language that can out them as predators lol. i stg it’s an obfuscation tactic

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 11:04:53 PM No. 455955

>>455950
Parts of /pol/ feels sympathy for those trannies because they think of them as mentally ill men, they are glad “feminists destroying their own movement” with tranny inclusion.

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 11:08:11 PM No. 455957

>>455950
>Also by reading you i feel like you were not proud of what you were, maybe that why you wanted to change? maybe you should train your self estim, your ability at sports, etc…There's really nothing beautiful about the female behavior, prostituting yourself constantly to obtain things, playing dumb, having to be deceptive, fake being nice to not get rekt because you are weak physically…i mean outside of motherhood and the women who are caring (the nurse kind who likes to help), ther's really nothing admirable in the modern female behavior.
>Also some girls are not like that and carry themselves like men, but they stay feminine. Maybe you wanted to be treated like a child, get favors and work less?

Men know men best.

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 11:13:41 PM No. 455961

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>>455785
you inspired me to try and get TiMs max mad. sorry if this counts as spam it's my last i swear

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 11:23:36 PM No. 455962

>>455872
>dumb misogynistic scrots remove themselves from the genepool
>Miss Whiteknight here wants that to stop
How about you start thinking about women instead of mentally ill scrots? The more of the insane ones who do that the less of them we will have to deal with that. We should be encouraging this behaviour.

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 11:37:32 PM No. 455965

>>455964
Being homosexual isn't a mental disorder. You believe in conversion therapy you science denier?

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 11:42:07 PM No. 455967

>>455965
It's Homophobe-chan who is ban evading. Just report them.

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 11:42:56 PM No. 455968

>>455785
>>455961
>>454655
>>454656
These are fucking amazing. I've been lamenting over trannies taking over cute anime girls and making the kawaii aesthetic about their fetish so these are, as ridiculous as it sounds, empowering as hell to me. Just because I can imagine how fucking mad they would get over them.

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 11:48:11 PM No. 455972

>>455967
This. Homophobe-chan has been extra salty all over the board today, it's just better to ignore and report.

Anonymous 08/30/19 (Fri) 11:53:55 PM No. 455974

>>455961
Yes let's reclaim the sailor scouts anon!!

Anonymous 08/31/19 (Sat) 01:08:18 AM No. 455995

What other radfem lolcows are there other than terri and leah tverly?

Anonymous 08/31/19 (Sat) 01:21:43 AM No. 456003

I'm keking because literally yesterday a huge GWAS study was released with ample press coverage, and homophobe-chan clearly doesn't have any actual interest in the science, much less actual scientific knowledge or reading comprehension

Ganna, A. et al. Large-scale GWAS reveals insights into the genetic architecture of same-sex sexual behavior. Science (2019). https://doi.org/10.1126/science.aat7693 (open access)

Anonymous 08/31/19 (Sat) 01:31:35 AM No. 456013

>>456003
Lmao of course not she thinks conversion therapy actually works. Thousands of people go through conversion therapy everyday yet they remain gay.

Anonymous 08/31/19 (Sat) 01:38:32 AM No. 456022

>>455995
I feel like Leah plays up the whole radfem thing in a fetishy way like the libfem libby video is fucking weird.

Anonymous 08/31/19 (Sat) 01:46:51 AM No. 456027

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https://www.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/cxokad/how_much_can_i_expect_my_interests_to_change_if_i/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app

Anonymous 08/31/19 (Sat) 01:54:51 AM No. 456033

>>456027
~How can I be sure my fetish will visually satisfy me without making me in any way what I think feminine is, because I’d hate to be womanly. Let me in women’s bathrooms though~

They don’t even pretend it’s not a fetish, huh

Anonymous 08/31/19 (Sat) 01:55:57 AM No. 456035

>>455961
lol, this one is good. Love the Usagi crying bit

Anonymous 08/31/19 (Sat) 01:59:51 AM No. 456038

>>456027
>hobbies
>sleeping
>putting a bag of ice on his nutsack

why are men

Anonymous 08/31/19 (Sat) 02:19:15 AM No. 456061

>>456027
>I was scared to death that my interests would change. They haven't. I still like loud music, skateboarding, boxing, action movies and horror movies.

>I worried I'd turn into a girly girl. I didn't. I'm a tomboy. I had the same kinda fear over a decade ago when I came out as bi. I thought I'd become super flamboyant. Didn't happen, either.

>That's not to say I haven't changed. I smile now. I'm much better at staying calm when solving problems. I'm virtually impervious to insults now. I'm actually happy now. But my interests are pretty much the same.

Anonymous 08/31/19 (Sat) 02:44:37 AM No. 456088

>>456027
It would be really hilarious to put these guys on placebos instead of HRT and see how they act. They would be telling themselves their breasts are growing, that they're definitely having period cramps, they all of a sudden want to suck dick tee hee, pretend like they can't parallel park or do maths anymore, etc etc. All they know about womanhood are sexist stereotypes.

Anonymous 08/31/19 (Sat) 02:55:02 AM No. 456097

uwu i hate men and want to join radfems's but i need to change my sexuality and become a lesbo since radfems hate straight women but its kinda hard because i like dick.

Anonymous 08/31/19 (Sat) 02:57:10 AM No. 456099

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>>456097

Anonymous 08/31/19 (Sat) 03:03:24 AM No. 456107

>>456099
i know its such a headache trying to be a lesbo uwu

Anonymous 08/31/19 (Sat) 03:04:00 AM No. 456108

>>456107
Try removing your balls then?

Anonymous 08/31/19 (Sat) 03:04:46 AM No. 456109

>>456107
I actually dont have balls, im a woman but i love dick too much, and ratfems are all lesbos.

Anonymous 08/31/19 (Sat) 03:08:11 AM No. 456115

>>456109
Make a joke about hair dye next. That’s almost a fine vintage.

Anonymous 08/31/19 (Sat) 03:30:48 AM No. 456124

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>>456115

Anonymous 08/31/19 (Sat) 03:33:15 AM No. 456126

>>456124
Not involved but LOL.

Anonymous 08/31/19 (Sat) 03:36:58 AM No. 456128

>>456124
You fuckin got me. Not bad, man.

Anonymous 08/31/19 (Sat) 03:37:54 AM No. 456129

>>456124
even being bait, this is true and i lol

Anonymous 08/31/19 (Sat) 04:26:59 AM No. 456139

>>456027
that's right, women don't sleep and WILL remove the bags of ice from your nutsacks

just watch

Anonymous 08/31/19 (Sat) 05:28:41 AM No. 456151

>>456027
>my hobbies include
>sleeping
LMAO. Obvious lack of personality aside, why would he fear that transitioning would make him disinterested in sleeping? Are women supposed to hate sleep? This shit is a meme.

Anonymous 08/31/19 (Sat) 06:12:12 AM No. 456157

>>455640
Do enbies like the trashy, weird, lolsorandumb characters because this group of enbies I used to know were obsessed with Junkrat from Overwatch.

Anonymous 08/31/19 (Sat) 06:18:28 AM No. 456159

Is anyone else so fed up with TRAs that they've stopped caring about even the regular human rights of trans people?

Not like "I want dragged out in the street and shot." More "I care about their problems about as much as I care about any other bullshit that men whine about." They might be actual problems; I just don't care. My goodwill has been so worn out that I have arrived at "Fuck it. Let them fix their own fucking problems."

I would feel guilty, but there's just not enough time in the day to care about everything, and they are no longer any sort of priority for me.

Anonymous 08/31/19 (Sat) 06:20:26 AM No. 456160

>>456158
i mean i kind of agree.

Anonymous 08/31/19 (Sat) 06:23:57 AM No. 456162

>>456158
yeah anon big meanie lesbians are soooo oppressive against me. ican't even leave the house at night without being scared a lesbian will kill me.

Anonymous 08/31/19 (Sat) 06:23:59 AM No. 456163

>>456159
No, I feel the same. It’s fair because they never care about women’s problems. You will never see a troon at a pro-choice rally, they will just be on twitter insulting women for being cissexist since not all women have uteri. They will be shutting down rape shelters and destroying women’s sports instead - particularly shitty for poor girls of color who rely on sports scholarships for a better life.

Anonymous 08/31/19 (Sat) 06:31:39 AM No. 456165

Trannies always expect women to fight for their rights but they don’t give a shit about women’s rights and damage them instead. Really activates the almonds.

Anonymous 08/31/19 (Sat) 06:48:04 AM No. 456167

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>>456159
>>456160
>>456162
Was this thread always this shitty or is the quality drop site-wide?
We have a whole separate thread for peopel who want to sperg out at the evil legbeards oppressing them, there's no reason to do it here.

Anonymous 08/31/19 (Sat) 07:38:18 AM No. 456169

>>455968
ah i made some of these, i’m glad you feel similarly about the anime shit. it’s been driving me crazy! i want to make more & post them on a platform with a wider audience, but considering how triggered TRAs will surely get after a single reminder that their 2D faves are females — i’d be reported for abuse or something almost immediately. so anonymous forum it is. lol

Anonymous 08/31/19 (Sat) 07:59:22 AM No. 456171

I said "Thanks!" on 4chan in a post and people accused me of being a tranny.

On one hand, I find it funny how the default whenever somebody is "" girly"" is to assume it's a roleplaying tranny, on the other hand how insecure are those people to think a single word with a single exclamation mark is meaningful.

Anonymous 08/31/19 (Sat) 08:25:55 AM No. 456172

>>456167
What thread is that? Also >>456162 was obvious sarcasm…

Anonymous 08/31/19 (Sat) 08:59:44 AM No. 456179

>>455584
I give it another decade at most. Once kids raised trans like Jazz get old and independent enough to realize the consequences people are going to speak out.

Anonymous 08/31/19 (Sat) 09:33:23 AM No. 456181

>female colleague who had an androgynous look is identifying as non-binary now

Why does she do this…why can’t she just be a gender non-conforming woman

Anonymous 08/31/19 (Sat) 09:41:47 AM No. 456184

>>456181
Honestly I hate this. I'm all for abolishing gender roles, I've always been for that, but this wave of '' non-binary agender '' faggotry is just pissing all over that. I thought we were trying to destroy these gender stereotypes, not succumb to them by faking our gender identity because we don't socially behave exactly like men or women are supposedly supposed to, despite being men or women.

Anonymous 08/31/19 (Sat) 10:06:59 AM No. 456191

>>456159
I care about their human rights in the same way I care about human rights in general but I’d be lying if I said that straight white guys in thigh high socks weren’t at the absolute bottom of my list of priorities. To be honest I think them having to struggle just a bit more would improve life for everyone else if only because they would no longer have as much money and time on their hands to navelgaze, masturbate and harass women. The trans movement’s most harmful actions all come from a position of privilege.

Anonymous 08/31/19 (Sat) 12:35:22 PM No. 456213

There’s a new girl at my school that’s almost certainly trans. I won’t be teaching her because she’s only 12, but fingers crossed that my amazing female colleagues help her realize that being a girl is cool and she snaps out of it ASAP.

Anonymous 08/31/19 (Sat) 12:38:05 PM No. 456215

>>456159

I've sort of become more sceptical of all of them, I guess. I used to be sympathetic when I heard about trans people getting beaten up or fired or evicted or whatever and sometimes I still am but these day my first reaction isn't "That's terrible" it's "OK, but what did the trans person do to provoke this?"

I've just been burned too many times being sympathetic only to find out the poor victimized trans in question was a pedophile or a violent predator or something.

Anonymous 08/31/19 (Sat) 12:58:20 PM No. 456217

>>455406
I had an actual nightmare about that person's face.

Anonymous 08/31/19 (Sat) 12:59:04 PM No. 456218

>>456202
The anon's point is that identifying as nonbinary doesn't actually go against gender roles. Those two things don't logically go together.
Calling this a "slippery slope" fallacy doesn't apply.

Anonymous 08/31/19 (Sat) 03:04:34 PM No. 456237

what's wrong with being nb?

Anonymous 08/31/19 (Sat) 03:19:00 PM No. 456240

>>456218
This. By identifying as agender or nonbinary they’re saying that there is a gender binary and they’re special exceptions for not identifying with either gender. Often they’ll insist on not being referred to as men or women, having special pronouns and some even change their name. That is very different from saying that gender is a bullshit social construct that doesn’t accurately describe anyone.

I know a woman who presents stereotypically feminine with pink frilly lolita dresses, long hair and makeup, but gets offended when someone “misgenders” her as a woman. How should people be able to tell she’s not a woman? Well for one, she doesn’t like to shave her legs, and having shaved legs is apparently an essential part of being a woman. Very progressive.

Anonymous 08/31/19 (Sat) 03:25:30 PM No. 456242

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we're sharing gross twitter transbians now?

Anonymous 08/31/19 (Sat) 03:26:32 PM No. 456243

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>>456242

Anonymous 08/31/19 (Sat) 03:39:37 PM No. 456244

>>456243
And if I injected myself with goat piss to the point I had more goat piss than my own piss in my body, I'd be a goat.

Anonymous 08/31/19 (Sat) 03:41:35 PM No. 456246

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>>456242
my favourite pasttime

Anonymous 08/31/19 (Sat) 03:56:38 PM No. 456249

>>456246
I think I'm realizing something - the smug, creepy grin they all make is attempting to imitate a cute anime girl smile, isn't it?

Anonymous 08/31/19 (Sat) 04:12:21 PM No. 456255

>>456249
That's the autogynesmile, anon

Anonymous 08/31/19 (Sat) 05:04:15 PM No. 456273

>>455961
Not spam at all, keep them coming

Anonymous 08/31/19 (Sat) 05:09:50 PM No. 456274

>>454929
the salamander flag was recently deemed the "detransitioner" flag. so she's a detransitioned woman.

Anonymous 08/31/19 (Sat) 05:14:09 PM No. 456278

>>456038
This is fucking hilarious.

Anonymous 08/31/19 (Sat) 06:42:48 PM No. 456295

>tfw got called a gender nazi because I said I don't think womanhood is just a feeling you can claim
Just

Anonymous 08/31/19 (Sat) 06:56:55 PM No. 456298

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>>456172
I know that, was just replying to every reply to that post for completion (the right thing would be for me not to address any of this, but I'm stupid)
If someone wants to bitch about le radfems then the radfem thread would be the place to do it, not here. I feel bad for pushing this on them but it was made because these threads used to get derailed with general discussion about it.
Back to the on-topic sperging out, sorry

Anonymous 08/31/19 (Sat) 07:55:16 PM No. 456309

>>456159
I still have some sympathy left for TiFs and maybe a little for HSTS but aside from that I really don't care what happens to them anymore.

Anonymous 08/31/19 (Sat) 08:21:30 PM No. 456324

>>456298
Is it safe to assume that the ~~butchers~~ surgeons who perform these procedures have their patients sign some kind of waiver so they’re not held responsible for the inevitable aftermath? This man died as a direct result of his SRS. The surgeon may claim the patient didn’t perform the appropriate aftercare but can regular cleaning and dilation really be expected to keep a huge carved-out wound from going necrotic? Especially when they use colon tissue, bacterial infection is to be expected because they’re literally sewing tissue brimming with bacteria into an open wound. There’s no way this doesn’t go horribly wrong for a significant number of patients.

Anonymous 08/31/19 (Sat) 08:28:30 PM No. 456326

File: 1567283310844.jpg (Spoiler Image,1.82 MB, 3000x8500, せやな.jpg)

Jesus Christ they're back at it again with the cult shit
This conversion and "egg hatching" shit genuinely scares me

Anonymous 08/31/19 (Sat) 08:57:46 PM No. 456344

File: 1567285066719.png (267.73 KB, 1024x367, 1558301935551.png)

So many horror stories.

Anonymous 08/31/19 (Sat) 09:21:29 PM No. 456349

File: 1567286489266.png (436.95 KB, 1430x588, dsc.png)

>>456326
>no mention of reports to the authorities, just disabling the account
Does this mean Discord doesn't really do shit about these sorts of things?

Anonymous 08/31/19 (Sat) 09:33:07 PM No. 456351

>>456326
So many minors, it's tragic. All these people targeting sad kids.

Anonymous 08/31/19 (Sat) 09:44:37 PM No. 456352

>>456298
Every time i see the claim that most neovaginas are indistinguishable from natal vaginas, i can't help but laugh. It's the saddest, most desperate tranner cope there is. They claim that all the proof about bad neovags are extreme outliers.

>>456349
Discord had a whole controversy with furry moderators playing favorites with furry servers, not banning clear violations of discord TOS, banning people who were anti-furry (they literally banned a youtuber for raiding furry servers), specifically allowing drawings depicting minors so long as they were furries, etc etc.

Wouldn't be surprised if there was one or more troon mods playing favorites. I guess that means not banning servers that openly groom minors. You're literally killing trans kids by denying them unhealthy enviroments i guess. The trans movement is peaceful, and not at all full of degenerates and pedos, i guess.

Anonymous 08/31/19 (Sat) 11:19:12 PM No. 456383

>>456309
I have some sympathy for TiFs and HSTS but none whatsoever for AGP.

Anonymous 08/31/19 (Sat) 11:25:11 PM No. 456387

>>456349
a lot of platforms do this, they just delete illegal content and don't report it. I's pointless reporting it to social media sites, you need to go directly to law enforcement if you see something illegal. I'm sure the relevant authorities have to be aware of the r9k tranny cult at this point though. It's not like it's some big secret.

Anonymous 09/01/19 (Sun) 03:06:45 AM No. 456433

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Anonymous 09/01/19 (Sun) 03:12:03 AM No. 456434

>>456326
I feel sick when I see this shit. I feel so sick seeing my life turned into their cute uwu soft sweet life as a girl~ fetish fuel. I'm a fucking person. Women are people. We aren't dreamy lolis in floppy sweaters who only want to nuzzle each other. Christ I hate this shit so much

Anonymous 09/01/19 (Sun) 03:14:18 AM No. 456435

>>456433

>Fighting cancer with more cancer

Anonymous 09/01/19 (Sun) 03:34:51 AM No. 456440

File: 1567308891039.jpg (4.08 KB, 203x203, 1563648618887.jpg)

>>456326

Holy shit, wtf, nuke this shit.

I've seen the "egg" shit on reddit too. Confused and depressed kids go there asking for advice and all the creepy pedos do is convince them as hard as they can that they need to chemically fuck themselves asap, even going as far as telling them to self "medicate" for their self diagnosis. When they post back looking like Dr, Frankestein's rejects they tell them they are gorgeous and look like they are glowing. This is too perverse.

Anonymous 09/01/19 (Sun) 03:54:23 AM No. 456449

>>456440
https://bunkerchan.xyz/leftypol/res/15551.html#q50428

Anonymous 09/01/19 (Sun) 05:22:07 AM No. 456470

>>456433
A good response to the UK Labour Party for buying into TRA ideology. More leftists need to look into the radical feminist theory of gender hierarchy.

Anonymous 09/01/19 (Sun) 09:47:49 AM No. 456548

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So sad

Anonymous 09/01/19 (Sun) 09:51:48 AM No. 456549

>>456548
No Magdalen please don't leave us

Anonymous 09/01/19 (Sun) 10:50:13 AM No. 456569

>>456548
Hope she's not in any pain at least, this is heartbreaking

Anonymous 09/01/19 (Sun) 11:02:51 AM No. 456581

>>456184
It seems to me that many people want to simply invert gender roles rather than get rid of them. The problem of course being that reproduction, the primary reason for sexual dimorphism, cannot be swapped. Therefore the envisioned "genderless" society becomes a bastardized, backwards version of the 1950's Americana where women are still second class citizens but men are free to express femininity if they so desire.
If you want to think really bleak they'll find a way for men to carry and deliver children and then relegate us to nanny their hellspawn.

Anonymous 09/01/19 (Sun) 01:33:36 PM No. 456635

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>>456569

Anonymous 09/01/19 (Sun) 02:34:20 PM No. 456653

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I regret looking at this sub, you all were right, it's just a giant catgirl fetish.

Anonymous 09/01/19 (Sun) 02:41:11 PM No. 456656

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>>456653
>femby

Anonymous 09/01/19 (Sun) 03:04:26 PM No. 456665

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>>456653

Anonymous 09/01/19 (Sun) 05:04:29 PM No. 456688

>>455797
>>455797
Why does his shirt say suboxone?

Anonymous 09/01/19 (Sun) 05:19:16 PM No. 456694

>>456440
I've seen in mentioned before. What is "egg hatching"??

Anonymous 09/01/19 (Sun) 05:56:17 PM No. 456705

So JesuOtaku a former anime reviewer for Channel awesome who was at one of the most popular reviewers for Channel awesome is apparently a Transman now

I literally just learned this today

Anonymous 09/01/19 (Sun) 06:44:33 PM No. 456718

>>456705
another former Channel Awesome reviewer Elisa Hansen(Maven of the Eventide)who used to review specially vampire related media appeared on Queer Kid Stuff(that creepy Trans kids channel with the teddy bear) where she Identified herself as "Asexual Queer Cisgendered " and explained her asexuality even though she's married to a man and has 6 year old child

She explains further on her blog that just because she's asexual doesn't mean she can't enjoy sex

https://elisaintime.tumblr.com/post/93616866312/asexual-and-pregnant-and-thats-okay

Anonymous 09/01/19 (Sun) 06:50:47 PM No. 456720

>>456718
>just because she's asexual doesn't mean she can't enjoy sex

i really have no idea what goes through people's minds when they say stuff like this.

Anonymous 09/01/19 (Sun) 07:01:55 PM No. 456725

>>456720
here is her reasoning btw

>To be asexual means that one does not experience sexual desire, yes. I personally have never felt sexual attraction, lust or “turned on” or “horny” in my life (at least not yet, and I am 31 years old). When I was younger, I used to think I was “broken” or “frigid” but now I understand that it is just my orientation. However, the fact that I don’t feel arousal does not mean that I am anti-sex. To me, there are benefits to sexual intercourse that are not physical. When I fall in love with someone (and I have been in love several times in my life, with more than just cismen) it is a cerebral and emotional attraction, and I am now very much in love with my husband. No one I have ever happened to have been in love with has been asexual. This means that sex with me has been a thing that my partners have desired. Even though I did not feel the same desire towards them, the idea that they desired ME made me feel flattered, special. Perhaps this is a bit of vanity on my part, but I have always liked being found desirable. Because desire is something I don’t feel, it seems like a strange and wonderful and amazing (dare I say, alien) thing for other people to feel that I am not part of, and fascinates me. To know that it is felt TOWARD me makes me happy. When I “lie back” as you put it, I am not “thinking of England” or gritting my teeth and bearing it, or being forced to endure something against my will. I am feeling a loving kind of happiness in knowing that someone loves me enough to express their natural and human desires towards me even despite the fact that I don’t desire them in return. It is an emotional boding experience for me. I don’t quite “get” what the other person gets out of it (I can imagine, and people have tried to describe it to me, but I’ll never really understand), but it doesn’t repulse or disgust me. And also, I enjoy knowing that I am making my partners feel good out of love.

>My husband gives me back and foot rubs all the time. He does this willingly, though I don’t know that he gets anything out of doing them. I love it when he does it because it feels great. Seriously, ever get a good massage? They’re awesome. I know some people get “turned on” by them, but I don’t. I just like them because they feel good for my sore muscles. And he does it for me because he likes to make me feel good because he loves me. He doesn’t get anything out of it other than that. He never asks me to give him a massage in return, and I rarely ever do (maybe cause I’m a bit lazy. Massages are hard work!)

>But my point is, that in relationships, people express love to their partners in different ways. There is no one right way to have a relationship regardless of your sexuality. My husband is very respectful of my asexuality. He loves me for exactly who I am.

>I have been in past relationships where my partners have become resentful of my asexuality. They have felt “unwanted” because I never initiated sex with them and because I wasn’t physically attracted to them. Though I did not find them “sexy,” I was mentally attracted to their personalities. I have been drawn to people, and formed deep bonds and connections with them, and that is love to me.

>But the main point I really want to make to you is that sexual attraction/orientation is not necessarily the only reason why one might engage in sex acts. It’s true I’ve never given “enthusiastic consent” to sex, but I have given loving, content, peaceful consent. When it comes to being a role model, I feel no shame in that. I think you need to be careful with the idea that asexuals ought to refrain from sex otherwise risk endorsing rape. Please understand that there are so many more reasons (yes, healthy reasons) why someone would choose to engage. I can only speak to my own reasons, of course, but you must not discount that there are others out there who have perfectly healthy reasons of their own as well.

Anonymous 09/01/19 (Sun) 07:03:18 PM No. 456726

>>456718
If someone is asexual but they have sex for the sake of their relationship.. isn't that having sex 'out of duty'

I'm not asexual but I've had plenty of sex out of duty and it's so shitty for your self esteem to do that

Anonymous 09/01/19 (Sun) 07:07:23 PM No. 456727

>>456726
according to anon's post, i think she is just confused as to what sexual attraction is. this is something i've noticed about a lot of these kinds of "asexuals". she's obviously attracted to people sexually but not in some insane hollywood porn way.

Anonymous 09/01/19 (Sun) 07:10:45 PM No. 456728

>>456720
i still don't know if people really can be born as asexual but if it's a real thing, i highly doubt that an asexual would want to do anything sexual let alone having a kid. i can see two asexuals dating with no sex, maybe but if you have sex you can't be asexual.

Anonymous 09/01/19 (Sun) 07:11:19 PM No. 456729

>>456727
I've seen a few 'asexual' women on youtube say that they have sex for the sake of their partner and that it's ok and I'm like how is that a good message to give girls?

It's like saying low sex drive? just fuck him anyway

Anonymous 09/01/19 (Sun) 07:14:07 PM No. 456731

>>456728
having a low or nonexistent sex drive is a thing, but it's usually product of an issue, whether it be trauma related or medical. it's not a sexuality or an orientation though, it's a condition. if you're fine with it, fine, but it doesn't need all this genderspecial garbage attached to it. i think people who define themselves as asexual just want to be included in this so they can justify forcing people they like into staying with them because of their "orientation" or something.

Anonymous 09/01/19 (Sun) 07:19:42 PM No. 456732

>>456729
that's another thing entirely and i totally agree. compromising in relationships is a total joke for both parties because in that situation both the women and the partner are suffering. i wish people would just accept that the sexual part of the relationship is important. people kneejerk about it too much but i wish it was more okay to talk about sexual compatibility being a key part of relationships.

Anonymous 09/01/19 (Sun) 07:29:01 PM No. 456737

>>456705
She looks like a girl cosplaying Arin Hanson kek.

I know for a fact that Jesu had an extremely conservative upbringing, so it doesn't surprise me that the resultant internalized misogyny caused her to troon out. I remember her mentioning in her Kiki's Delivery Service review that she wasn't allowed to watch anything with wizards or witches in it when she was a kid.

Anonymous 09/01/19 (Sun) 07:33:19 PM No. 456738

>>456732
It just reminds me of every discussion I've seen about mismatched libidos where usually the woman will be told to put out even when she doesn't want to, I'm all for putting in effort but when it comes to sex it's emotionally damaging to force it

Only have sex when you actually want it, find a partner with a similar libido or agree on toys/whatever when you're not matching up. Too many girls already go along with sex they don't want. Now asexuals are literally saying "I've never given enthusiastic consent" while saying they've somehow still consented?

Anonymous 09/01/19 (Sun) 07:55:34 PM No. 456744

>>456738
you'd think that if they really wanted asexuality to be valid, they would follow through more. if you want people to be okay with having no sex drive, be with someone who actually is okay with that? i understand the partner's perspective too, if you enjoy sex it makes you feel bad that your partner doesn't also. obviously wanting to respect your partner is important, but it's not worth it to deny yourself your needs, which is also what people do by having sex out of duty, it's a lose-lose. this is why i think most asexuals are just confused and want another label.

Anonymous 09/01/19 (Sun) 10:28:13 PM No. 456777

>>456191
>straight white guys in thigh high socks
Kek, they’re called programming socks.

Anonymous 09/02/19 (Mon) 03:46:15 AM No. 456914

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Why are they so lacking in self-awareness

Anonymous 09/02/19 (Mon) 03:54:37 AM No. 456916

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>>456694

They call people who are on the fence about trooning out "eggs", not even that, they call anyone that seems to like something from the opposing gender an egg, even when they are not even considering the possibility of being trans, in their minds everyone is walking around deluded that they are cis.

Its part of their gaslighting to make people believe they are not a normal person but a trans egg that needs to hatch by trooning out.

"male kid likes a pink thing"
"oh honey total egg, r/TotallyEggBehaviour, i was just like that, now i am a catgirl :3 if you like pink thing you need to start HRT NOW!"

Its so gross because you just know everyone that posts on trans subs is being groomed and manipulated and a lot of them are underage or very young and must have their PMs full of pedos and 40 yr old troons offering "support"

https://www.reddit.com/r/egg_irl/

Anonymous 09/02/19 (Mon) 04:03:18 AM No. 456919

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>>456718
Maven is married to a man who works an office job and is the breadwinner,she has a child,she doesn't have a job and spends majority of her time at home reading vampire books,watching tv and posting pics of her son on Twitter and facebook

what about her is queer exactly ?

Anonymous 09/02/19 (Mon) 04:06:58 AM No. 456921

>>456726
>>456727
>>456728
Little bit late, but I am not capable to find people attractive and was never in love.
I wouldn't call myself asexual, because my body is still able to feel some kind of desire but not with or for people.
For me, people can be pretty, but more like a painting. Having sex with them would feel totally wrong. You don't have sex with a pretty painting. I am sure somewhere there is something like that but you know what I mean
I can like other humans, finding them interesting or sympathetic. But it never gets beyond a hug.

and yes I am older then 20 years

Anonymous 09/02/19 (Mon) 04:13:26 AM No. 456923

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>>456916

More proof trans subs are literally just r/animemes

Anonymous 09/02/19 (Mon) 04:15:26 AM No. 456926

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>>456923

Anonymous 09/02/19 (Mon) 04:57:48 AM No. 456944

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>>456923
>liking comfy shipping content for once instead of hardcore faceless ojisan degradation shit means you're an anime lesbian
alright sweet
>>456926
There's something really funny about how every "epic anime twans girl" they use is just an unambiguously male character even if they're a case of ">draw a girl >call it a boy". Did anyone else here suffer through 2012 SA translation Dangan Ronpa fandom and the eternal Chihiro conundrum?
Even back then, the mental gymnastics people did to convince themselves he was totally a brave and stunning programmer girlgamer were great.
reposting because I'm fucking retarded and mixed them up the first time around. >draw a boy >call it a girl is oscar-sama

Anonymous 09/02/19 (Mon) 05:15:10 AM No. 456948

>>456944
Yeah, the term "truscum" got popular right during that Dangan Ronpa controversy because even some MTFs had the audacity to say "a boy who crossdresses and uses a fake identity to avoid being bullied for his femininity is still a boy if he later says he is actually a boy" which is absolutely haram under TRA ideology that demands all gnc people be transed.

Anonymous 09/02/19 (Mon) 05:29:00 AM No. 456951

>>456948
They're really trying to erase the fact that GNC people exist. They want everyone to be trans if they don't perfectly fit the moulds of "man" or "woman".
Just wait. If more authors put out stories that have GNC characters, one of the many complaints will probably be that they are "transbaiting" (in the same vein as people complaining about "queerbaiting" in media).

Anonymous 09/02/19 (Mon) 06:01:10 AM No. 456956

>>456948
That whole business was pretty scary, it seemed like no matter what you said you ended up gaining five different mortal enemies for five different reasons. I think that and the way these novel-length arguments never made any logical sense, and even people who seemingly agreed often blatantly contradicted each other were probably the first thing that really made me question the gender cult.
Witch-hunting and that sort of ridiculous fandom-policing only got worse from then on, there came a point where there really was nothing fun about enjoying my favorite animes with my fellow autistic teenage girls on Tumblr dot corn. It was never a completely civil business, but at least you could draw a genderbend and it was cute wholesome fun instead of social suicide.

Anonymous 09/02/19 (Mon) 07:34:25 AM No. 456967

>>456944
>the eternal Chihiro conundrum
Oh god, that was a fucking nightmare on tumblr. I think seeing all the retarded "Chihiro is a precious trans girl uwu" posts was one of the contributing factors to help me hit peak trans. There was a similar controversy over a character in one of the Persona games, I haven't played it so I really don't know the full details but I think it was a female character who posed as a boy and everyone would have huge dumbass arguments over her being a FTM.
Funny that these are the same people who cry about white people appropriating "POC" stuff when they're doing the same thing by inserting Western culture into Japanese games.

Anonymous 09/02/19 (Mon) 07:43:52 AM No. 456968

>>456967
Oh, Naoto.
I'm more of a mainline SMT person so I didn't know that was ever an issue. That's really hilarious considering the context of the game.
She poses as a man for all of maybe 10% of her screentime, and it's because she feels like she isn't taken seriously as a result of being a young woman, not because she's convinced she has metaphysical male essence or some shit.
It's been a while since I played it but I'm pretty sure she gives it up completely after her shadow boss fight, where (like every single other party member shadow boss) she learns to work past her insecurities. Afterwards, she still acts and dresses in a relatively masculine manner, but is no longer uncomfortable with the fact she is female. That's an even funnier instance of missing the point of the source material, holy fuck.

Anonymous 09/02/19 (Mon) 07:48:59 AM No. 456969

>>456718
>Straight girl educating about kweer things uwu
Of course she's heterosexual.

>>456725
The fuck? Does she think "non-asexual sex" is some huge horny fuckfest with fake moaning and massive squirting orgasms? She gets emotional fulfillment from sex and obviously is turned on by the thought of being desirable. I think that's pretty much what normal sex is about. Porn absolutely ruined this generation.

>>456944
The retarded thing about that discourse was how they weren't self-aware enough to realize that they were being bigoted and supportive of conservative gender roles themselves.
>Boy disguises himself as a girl because he was bullied for being weak and effeminate, says he hates it and wants to learn to be more masculine
>omg stunning and brave trans princess she could slay a thousand terves with that skirt!!!

Anonymous 09/02/19 (Mon) 08:13:27 AM No. 456976

>>456968
>I'm more of a mainline SMT person so I didn't know that was ever an issue.
Don't worry, you didn't miss anything of value. I even had online friends who argued so much about it that they stopped being friends and I gave up on fandoms completely after that. One of them said that Naoto was a tomboyish girl and that her struggles were relatable, and the other blocked her and said behind her back to all of our friend group that she was a dangerous transphobe.

Context for other anons: people were sperging about Naoto being a transboy because she didn't like being treated like garbage by her detective coworkers for being a teenage girl and was crossdressing to be taken seriously, even though Naoto says herself that she's proud of being a woman if you complete her character arc/social link. She even wears woman's clothes in P4G in the new epilogue. It started with "don't be an asshole to people who headcanon Naoto as a transboy ("asshole" here meant people who politely corrected others who never played P4)" and very soon became "the Persona developers are transphobic and homophobic scum and Kanji is still gay if he's into Naoto who is definitely a transboy, source: my ass, trust me." I have a feeling it happened around 2013 because of the anime and because everyone wanted Kanji to be 100% gay because of an interview with Troy Baker.

I think because of that there are chances they removed or censored some things in the Catherine remake's international release, correct me if I'm wrong because I haven't found reliable sources for that. Thank god these people don't give a fuck about mainline SMT.

Anonymous 09/02/19 (Mon) 08:27:51 AM No. 456979

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>>456976
Bit stupid and off-topic, but I was always disappointed with how the Kanji and Naoto thing was forced to go nowhere due to male otakus flipping out if their waifu so much as looks in the direction of a man who isn't their cardboard stand-in. Persona 4 would be a lot better if the world didn't revolve around the MC's dick.
Men are so obsessed with haremshit the industry is forced to cater to them, it's so boring. I have no idea how they never get tired of it. These days the only "trashier" weeb things I follow are female demographic, the male pandering is way too annoying otherwise.
http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2008/11/15/cuckolded-otaku-desecrates-kannagi-over-virginity-issue/

Anonymous 09/02/19 (Mon) 09:06:58 AM No. 456987

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Anonymous 09/02/19 (Mon) 09:31:05 AM No. 456993

>>456728
I’ve known so many “asexuals” in my time and only one of them truly felt no sexual or romantic attraction. I think asexuality exists but it’s rare and most people who claim they’re asexual are either repressing their attraction due to harmful internalized views regarding sex and dating, or mistake it for low libido.

>>456951
I am so sick of it. Whatever happened to the abolishment of gender stereotypes and “boys can wear dresses and still be boys” and “girls can wear suits and still be girls”? (We know what happened - the movement realized transition and gender dysphoria relied on gender stereotypes so started reinforcing them again.)

Anonymous 09/02/19 (Mon) 10:26:01 AM No. 456998

How many times can a Twitter account violate the rules before they get banned or suspended? I reported Dr. Rachel McKinnon for targeting hate against a group of people and Twitter itself confirmed he violated the rules. I feel like they're just telling me I'm right to satisfy my wants. That man is dangerous. I don't doubt many other people have reported him as well.

Anonymous 09/02/19 (Mon) 10:34:22 AM No. 457003

>>456998
Is that McKinnon the same person who said trannies should be allowed in female sports because black women are allowed? TRAs always come up with these awful false equivalences. Surprised he isn’t banned for racism but will get people banned for the crime of misgendering lol.

Anonymous 09/02/19 (Mon) 11:22:03 AM No. 457009

>>456725
>>456720
Late, but I feel like she (and a lot of other asexuals esp the high school ones) just isn't attracted to the uggos she's surrounded herself with and she thinks she's asexual now because it's easier than admitting her husband isn't attractive to her. Either that or her internalized lesbophobia is out of control and she can't admit it's just men she's not attracted to. I see girls going through this all the time unfortunately.

Anonymous 09/02/19 (Mon) 11:43:20 AM No. 457012

>>457009 Blogpost but yes, girls go through it all the time, I know that cause unfortunately I'm one of them. I thought I was asexual for around 3 years before realizing I'm actually a lesbian.
Unfortunately for many girls, due to the society we live in, no sexual attraction to men = no sexual attraction at all.

Anonymous 09/02/19 (Mon) 12:20:25 PM No. 457025

>>456383
Pretty much me at this point, but I do feel sorry for feminine straight guys, that have been convinced they are actually 'Eggs'.

Anonymous 09/02/19 (Mon) 01:20:02 PM No. 457046

>>457025
I also worry a lot about young fem gay men, you just know a lot of them are going to end up buckling under the pressure to troon out. Feminine men should be encouraged for fighting macho stereotypes, not told they're not actual men because they don't fit the "manly man" mold. It's fucking barbaric.

Anonymous 09/02/19 (Mon) 02:05:56 PM No. 457056

>>457047
>gay scrotes
Excuse you, they’re called TEHMs.

Anonymous 09/02/19 (Mon) 03:57:45 PM No. 457071

>>457047
I'd rather gay men stay gay men than troon out

Anonymous 09/02/19 (Mon) 04:06:03 PM No. 457072

>>457071

Sure, but if i prefer they don't troon out is not because i give a crap about their well being. They can be masochists and wreck their bodies and healt in another way if they want, just don't go pretending you are a woman to infiltrate our spaces. I don't feel bad for them at all.

Anonymous 09/02/19 (Mon) 06:31:31 PM No. 457102

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Anyone seen this? I saw some people on Twitter and Tumblr talking about how "transphobic" this whole thing is, and how "TERFs are throwing GNC women under the bus". What do you guys think, are these two actually men?

Anonymous 09/02/19 (Mon) 06:34:55 PM No. 457103

>>457102
Here's the interview, Liao starts talking at 0:16.

Anonymous 09/02/19 (Mon) 06:59:44 PM No. 457105

>>457102
Just two? I see three men standing to the left of that sole woman in the picture.

Anonymous 09/02/19 (Mon) 07:24:49 PM No. 457114

>>457102
>>457103
Okay, Liao has to be male, right? Honestly that's my gut with them and Tong, Yang, esp in the video, just seems to be a gangly broad-faced woman. But jesus, am I crazy or does Liao just seem undeniably male?

Anonymous 09/02/19 (Mon) 07:29:58 PM No. 457116

>>457102
Liao and Yang have that male shape hip bones… Fu looks like a woman Tong might be unfortunate but looks like a man tbh

Anonymous 09/02/19 (Mon) 07:30:33 PM No. 457117

>>457116
Compare the necks of those three guys to Fu's

Anonymous 09/02/19 (Mon) 07:38:11 PM No. 457118

>>457102

Yeeeah, the chinese are pulling a fast one lmfao, the real world today is like one of those goofy lampoon movies from the 80s.

Anonymous 09/02/19 (Mon) 08:02:26 PM No. 457122

Something that confuses me is why there are so many trans-identifying people in online spaces like Reddit and 4chan compared to other minorities. I'm Asian-American so I like to look at r/asianamerican posts and there 30k subscribers there even though 5%+ of the US population is Asian-American. On the other hand, r/asktransgender has 111k subscribers and r/transgender has 88k of now. The thing is though is that a quick search on the population of trans people in the US brings this up:

>A different survey in 2016, from the Williams Institute, estimated that 0.6% of U.S. adults identify as transgender.

Why is this the case? What is it about these online spaces that attracts such a great number of individuals from an absolutely miniscule percentage of the overall population?

Sage for possibly OT.

Anonymous 09/02/19 (Mon) 08:06:31 PM No. 457125

>>457122
Should also add that /lgbt/ on 4chan is pretty much dominated by TiMs as well and might as well be renamed /tttt/.

Anonymous 09/02/19 (Mon) 08:29:30 PM No. 457134

>>457102
Tong and Liao I'm 80% sure have Adams apples. Also wasn't some Muslim country recently outed for replacing females on their female teams with males? I don't see why China wouldn't follow suit.

Anonymous 09/02/19 (Mon) 09:15:09 PM No. 457140

>>457122

They are already (literal) autists and otakus that spend most of their lives online and live trough fantasy roleplays of their fetishes even before deciding they want to become trans. In an online space everything is as easy as writing a female name on the nick and uploading a moe avatar and suddenly they feel like they are girls, 10 years ago they were probable fapping to their own female avatar on WoW for 10 hours a day.

Anonymous 09/02/19 (Mon) 09:42:07 PM No. 457145

Actor makes a big deal about how he's attracted to troons and is still straight and is immediately outed as a child molester:

https://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/115819429.html

Anonymous 09/02/19 (Mon) 09:46:07 PM No. 457146

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>>457122
Troons think they can escape their own mediocre lives as failed men by turning into ugu kawaii anime girls. They think they’ll turn into a k-on character and have no concerns in life except eating cake and giggling. As far as I know, you can’t escape your life by pretending to be Chinese or blind or something.

Anonymous 09/02/19 (Mon) 11:18:41 PM No. 457167

All this egg shit has made me really paranoid of any slightly effeminate straight white guy who likes hentai and is immersed in internet communities. There’s this chance that he could troon out. I wonder how common this type of anime-induced autogynephilia is because I did always think it was strange how common men would use some loli girl as their icon, or make anthropomorphisations of websites/animals/brands into little girls.

Anonymous 09/02/19 (Mon) 11:24:26 PM No. 457171

>>457122
A lot of troons are males who live their lives on the internet so you would expect they would have a greater online presence than a real life one. Their lack of engagement with the real world may also explain why so many work in tech.

Anonymous 09/02/19 (Mon) 11:32:26 PM No. 457172

>>457167
>how common this type of anime-induced autogynephilia is
I feel like if anime did not exist, or was not so easily accessible, or did not have that so much misogynistic content then we would have a lot less of this. AGPs would still exist obviously, they always have, but so many troons are into anime it’s ridiculous.

Anonymous 09/03/19 (Tue) 01:15:40 AM No. 457190

>>457003
Yes same guy. Also the bicyclist who won the UCI Masters World Track Cycling Championship in the Women's Sprint 35-44 age bracket (thanks wiki kek).

Anonymous 09/03/19 (Tue) 04:29:28 AM No. 457216

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>HRT makes you attracted to underage girls

Anonymous 09/03/19 (Tue) 04:30:18 AM No. 457217

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Anonymous 09/03/19 (Tue) 04:50:44 AM No. 457223

>>457216
physically cringed upon reading "puberty 2.0 for sure", no its called being a nonce

Anonymous 09/03/19 (Tue) 06:18:28 AM No. 457231

>>457167

unwritten law of the internet: If you have moeshit, hentai or any waifu as your avatar your opinion doesn't count. Get away, don't engage.

Anonymous 09/03/19 (Tue) 06:40:31 AM No. 457238

>>457233
AGP have always existed because we live in a society that others, hates and sexualizes women. There are records from ancient Sumer about men gaining sexual gratification by dressing up as women and how they want to get pregnant. For as long as gender exists so will this tranny shit.

Anonymous 09/03/19 (Tue) 06:43:47 AM No. 457240

>>457233
>thinking agp is a modern invention
Lmao go back to /pol/

Anonymous 09/03/19 (Tue) 06:47:14 AM No. 457243

>>457240
nta but look at the shitty post they are quoting. >>457172

Anonymous 09/03/19 (Tue) 06:52:44 AM No. 457244

>>457243
How is that wrong? AGP have always existed.

Anonymous 09/03/19 (Tue) 06:53:08 AM No. 457245

>>457243
>nta
Sure you aren't, Homophobe-chan.

Anonymous 09/03/19 (Tue) 07:15:07 AM No. 457250

>>457247
Saudi Arabia and Russia are also extremely homophobic countries. If a guy trooned out in public, he could /literally/ get murdered.

Anonymous 09/03/19 (Tue) 07:27:46 AM No. 457253

>>457251
the gay rights movement and tras should have never gotten involved but it unfortunately did because back then almost every tranny was an effeminate gay man or a butch lesbian. agps getting involved is their fault.

Anonymous 09/03/19 (Tue) 07:28:18 AM No. 457254

>>457251
NTA nor am I a homophobe, but to a certain degree I get where they’re coming from - trannies globally began to safe enough to flash their dicks once gay marriage laws pass. Every. Single. Country.

A mate of my partners offhandedly mentioned that once the law passed in New Zealand all the trannies came out - we laughed it off, but laws pass here and suddenly there’s a bunch of strong beautiful trans women parading their cocks around.

Don’t forget that pedos constantly try to attach themselves to the LGB as well. I’m most saying that the LGB movement is in any way a bad thing, but disgusting parasites attach themselves to it; pedos, trannies, kinksters

Anonymous 09/03/19 (Tue) 08:05:01 AM No. 457262

>>457259
i'm not the anon who replied to you previously. i think autogynephilia might have been a thing since forever in the sense that some heterosexual men might be into crossdressing and shit, but i don't think men from 1000 years ago would seriously think they are actual women because they like crossdressing.

Anonymous 09/03/19 (Tue) 08:07:40 AM No. 457263

>>457262
You can blame Blanchard and co. who thought validating their identities as true women and giving them surgery was a good idea.

Anonymous 09/03/19 (Tue) 08:13:45 AM No. 457264

Is anyone aware of what the pxr drama is?

Anonymous 09/03/19 (Tue) 08:20:37 AM No. 457265

>>457262
>but i don't think men from 1000 years ago would seriously think they are actual women because they like crossdressing.

That was the point all along, is only a thing now that there is validation in the countries were the gay movement has a strong pull and is that agenda that spearheaded all these newfound dumb laws and standards regarding troons.

Anonymous 09/03/19 (Tue) 08:43:25 AM No. 457268

>>457167
>All this egg shit has made me really paranoid of any slightly effeminate straight white guy who likes hentai and is immersed in internet communities.
you should be careful with these dudes whether or not you think they're going to troon out, they're bad news either way.

Anonymous 09/03/19 (Tue) 09:18:23 AM No. 457271

>>457167
You could have the flags of

Baton Rouge, Louisiana, United States
Gdańsk, Poland
Oruro Department, Bolivia
Racibórz, Poland
Red flag, associated with socialism, communism, and left-wing politics
Belize (with multicolored coat of arms)
Chimborazo, Ecuador (with multicolored coat of arms)
Chorzów, Poland
Cotopaxi Province, Ecuador
Georgian SSR, Soviet Union (1951–1990)
Gliwice, Poland (with multicolored coat of arms)
Guam (with multicolored coat of emblem)
Haiti (with multicolored coat of arms)
Liechtenstein – (with gold and black emblem)
Province of Lugo, Spain (with multicolored coat of arms)
Paris, France
Szczecin, Poland (with multicolored coat of arms)
Ticino, Switzerland
Venlo, Limburg, the Netherlands (with multicolored coat of arms)
Wodzisław Śląski, Poland (with multicolored coat of arms)
Wojkowice, Poland
Red, blue, green
Bangladesh Air Force
Bangladesh Coast Guard
Republic of Karelia, Russian Federation
The Romani People
Arauca Department, Colombia
Bangladesh
Bolívar Province, Ecuador
George Rogers Clark Flag, historical flag used during the American Revolution
Głogówek, Poland (with multicolored coat of arms)
La Paz, Bolivia
Morocco
Piaseczno, Poland
Transnistria (civil flag) (de facto state, limited recognition)
Tungurahua, Ecuador
China
Nazis

And there’s still less red flags than with that guy

Anonymous 09/03/19 (Tue) 09:32:10 AM No. 457273

>>457271
What?

Anonymous 09/03/19 (Tue) 10:15:44 AM No. 457280

>>457271
lmao anon

Anonymous 09/03/19 (Tue) 10:42:12 AM No. 457284

File: 1567507331503.gif (2.59 MB, 264x240, 1554348829867.gif)

>>457271

Anonymous 09/03/19 (Tue) 11:00:01 AM No. 457288

>>457254
Same-sex marriage was legalised in 2001 in the Netherlands but I don’t remember TRAs being very vocal here until ~2013 at the earliest, though it’s possible I just wasn’t paying attention.

I don’t think it’s all some gay male conspiracy but I have noticed that most female trans allies I know are also really into gay men, drag queens, wanting a flamboyant sassy gay bff, etc. They want attention and praise for being proactive allies but since the biggest hurdle was overcome almost twenty years ago when the majority of them were still children (and some not even born), they instead latch on to the shiny new movement that is trans activism. Most vocally pro-trans women I know seem to view TIMs as extra tragic next-level effeminate gay men and I’ve noticed them really struggle with cognitive dissonance when confronted with a distinctly unfabulous greasy transbian. They’ll still “yass queen slaaay” at him but preferably from a comfortable distance/online only.

>>457271
Anon did you just google “national flags with red in them”

Anonymous 09/03/19 (Tue) 11:20:49 AM No. 457303

>>457288
If most trannies are gay men wouldn't there be more "straight trans women" though? I think studies show there are more "transbians" who are just straight men or bisexual/pansexual/queer trannies.

Anonymous 09/03/19 (Tue) 11:34:36 AM No. 457308

>>457303
Lol

Anonymous 09/03/19 (Tue) 11:39:48 AM No. 457309

>>457288
Fuck I ignored flag anons post thinking it was spam until I saw your reply to it, I nearly missed a gem
Can >>457271 be lolcow's national copypasta?

Anonymous 09/03/19 (Tue) 11:40:56 AM No. 457310

>>457303
HSTS have always been very rare although they were the only accepted trannies by sexologists back then. AGP now outnumber them by a wide margin ever since the Benjamin Scale was dropped.

Anonymous 09/03/19 (Tue) 11:44:50 AM No. 457311

>>457310
The only tranny I knew was a butch lesbian from 12 years ago. She had an extremely conservative upbringing and her community was far more accepting of her being a trans man than a gay woman so she was kinda forced into it. Now there's loads and loads of teenage ~gay trans men~ named Aiden and they're all into yaoi and have blue hair.

Anonymous 09/03/19 (Tue) 11:49:57 AM No. 457313

>>457167
>All this egg shit has made me really paranoid of any slightly effeminate straight white guy who likes hentai and is immersed in internet communities.

I know a man like this. He is constantly making racist remarks, acts creepy towards women and listens to vaporwave. I think one day he will make a "coming out" post on Facebook and people praise him for being a brave lesbian trans woman who can do no wrong.

Anonymous 09/03/19 (Tue) 11:57:33 AM No. 457314

>>457313
I know a troon who hasn't "come out" to everybody because he wants to got to Japan, trap a Japanese woman with him, and then troon out after marriage so he can live out his "Japanese yuri dickgirl fantasy" with her. Good lord, so many of these men have Asian fetishes. It's fucking vile.

Anonymous 09/03/19 (Tue) 12:53:41 PM No. 457332

>>457314
You know what to do, gather information and caps and hold onto it until the day comes.
It would never happen though, Japan doesn't handle gaijin tims with the same kid gloves we do.

Anonymous 09/03/19 (Tue) 01:03:44 PM No. 457341

>>457314
Expectation
>he wants to got to Japan, trap a Japanese woman with him,

Reality
>He is going to go 43% on himself in his parent's basement wearing knee socks.

Anonymous 09/03/19 (Tue) 01:27:45 PM No. 457349

>>457103
I thought their legs looked feminine but jesus, liao is either a man or on T after hearing that. Fu is so obviously female (hips, face, neck), it's bullshit she's being questioned just for having an athletic body and not being super girly styled. The other 2 look like females who are just doping and not wearing makeup, a lot of SE asians have tiny hips like a western guy unfortunately

Anonymous 09/03/19 (Tue) 03:16:11 PM No. 457395

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>>457102

Anonymous 09/03/19 (Tue) 03:20:43 PM No. 457397

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>>457395
I think this is the image that sparked the controversy

Anonymous 09/03/19 (Tue) 03:24:49 PM No. 457400

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>>457397
I think yang is also a man but just very effeminate. in the video, Liao is clearly a man he's just emoting more than typical Chinese male athletes would. if he replied stoically, he would read 110% male.

Anonymous 09/03/19 (Tue) 03:45:33 PM No. 457408

Two of my classmates I was quite close with came out as trans (TiM ofc). They are both ugly men with internalized misandry and one is a weeb, the other a furry. I don't know how I'll make it through this year I just don't want to see them wear dresses, put nail polish and call that girly.

Anonymous 09/03/19 (Tue) 06:31:17 PM No. 457459

>>457408
>internalized misandry
lolwhat?

Anonymous 09/03/19 (Tue) 06:38:56 PM No. 457461

>>457102
There's no way the three on the right are Female. The Adonis belts and manly faces give it away. Even the choice of hair cuts is generically Masculine in comparison to the woman's on the left

>>457395
Dude on left in this pic is lookin pretty thicc though but hairline screams male

Anonymous 09/03/19 (Tue) 06:40:52 PM No. 457462

>>457395
>>457102
lmao that sure is some way to put men in skimpy sportswear.

Anonymous 09/03/19 (Tue) 07:01:09 PM No. 457479

>>457459
"not like toxic men" soyboys. usually they just become "male feminists", or call themselves nonbinary or something like that. I guess anon's classmates' weeb/furry interests were enough to tip them to fully troon out.

Anonymous 09/03/19 (Tue) 07:10:21 PM No. 457486

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>>457479
>"not like toxic men" soyboys. usually they just become "male feminists"

Every day i find this comic more relevant.

Anonymous 09/03/19 (Tue) 07:11:54 PM No. 457489

>>457479
I am not sure what you are trying to say anon, this is the first time I ever ehar the term internalized misandry and have no idea what it means. Do you mean not liking toxic men? That's not bad, but how on earth is that misandry? That is a good thing.

Anonymous 09/03/19 (Tue) 07:12:43 PM No. 457491

>>457486
Way too fucking accurate, it seems the only men around are the ones who hate you and tell you, or the ones who hate you but act like they don't to make you lower your guard.

Anonymous 09/03/19 (Tue) 07:38:06 PM No. 457508

>>457489
do you seriously not know what male feminists are? men can totally have internalized misandry. every single incel has internalized misandry, they just blame their hatred of other men on women (hence the internalized). they claim it's the fault of women that they hate chad, but they do in fact hate chad. their entire argument stems around hating women for liking men that they aren't.

Anonymous 09/03/19 (Tue) 07:43:25 PM No. 457510

>>457506
Oh, that is messed up, Jesus Christ. That poor guy needs therapy.

>>457508
Anon, are you suggesting male feminists are like the guy above? I am pretty sure men can be feminists without hating themselves and their sex. This seems like a way too strong connection you are drawing, I have never met such a man, although as the other anon linked an example, I do not doubt they exist, but they must be very rare.

Also I will have to disagree about incels, they don't hate Chad, they worship him. They want to BE him, it's like poor Americans worshipping the 1% dreaming that they will be that one day.

Anonymous 09/03/19 (Tue) 07:46:24 PM No. 457512

>>457510
i'd suggest that a huge part of incels want to fuck chad. have you guys ever seen any straight woman as obsessed with the chad stereotype as incels are? i'm almost sure it boils down to some closeted gayness.

Anonymous 09/03/19 (Tue) 07:58:23 PM No. 457517

>>457515
I mean, he is pretty good here. But he sounds extremely gay, could this be the issue for his internalized misandry? Like, he is attracted to men and hates them at the same time so he ends up hating himself.

Anonymous 09/03/19 (Tue) 08:09:56 PM No. 457525

>>457521
Interesting guy actually, so thanks for the introduction to him.

>>457522
>>457524
Yeah I guess you're right, it's weird how that works, Shouldn't these kids want nothing to do with similar experiences like the ones that messed them up when young? I am not psychologist, but shouldn't they turn ultra straight?

Anonymous 09/03/19 (Tue) 08:32:09 PM No. 457529

>>457525
>>457524
no amount of childhood trauma can change a persons sexuality, posting in the gendercrit thread i would expect better. also seems irrelevant since >>457506 says he choses to remain celibate

Anonymous 09/03/19 (Tue) 08:48:58 PM No. 457539

>>457489
there's a subset of men who think that because they aren't macho or engage in toxic masculinity or like girly things, that means they're progressive pioneers (male feminists) or not actually men (enbies). Sure they hate toxic men and that's good, but it's not an overall good thing because these guys are rarely Derrick Jensons and more often just deflect issues to the "toxic men" boogeyman and never critique themselves or guys like them as men/males.

Anonymous 09/03/19 (Tue) 08:50:35 PM No. 457541

>>457531
>Four explanations have been proposed for this association.

>The first is that nascent same-sex sexuality causes childhood maltreatment, through two pathways: (1) adolescents who reveal their same-sex sexual orientation are targeted for maltreatment (D’Augelli & Grossman, 2001; Saewyc et al., 2006); and (2) adolescents exploring same-sex attractions may put themselves in risky situations, increasing likelihood of maltreatment (Corliss et al., 2002; Holmes & Slap, 1998).

>A second explanation proposes that sexual orientation minorities disproportionately exhibit gender-nonconforming behaviors in childhood (Rieger, Linsenmeier, Gygax, & Bailey, 2008; Roberts, Rosario, Corliss, Koenen, & Austin, 2012) and are targeted for maltreatment (Alanko et al., 2010).

>A third explanation is that reported differences are attributable to differential recall of maltreatment by sexual orientation, due either to self-reflection during the coming out process or to differential willingness to endorse stigmatizing experiences (Corliss et al., 2002).

>A fourth explanation is that maltreatment increases likelihood of same-sex sexuality. Four pathways have been hypothesized: (1) maltreatment may cause loss of self-worth and create a stigmatized identity in victims; therefore, maltreated persons with same-sex preferences may be more willing to adopt another stigmatized identity, namely minority sexual orientation (Saewyc et al., 2006);(2) sexual abuse, perpetrated primarily by men, causes boys to believe they are homosexual (Gartner, 1999); (3) sexual abuse of girls by male perpetrators causes victims to be aversive to sexual relationships with men (Marvasti & Dripchak, 2004); and (4) sexual abuse of boys by men “teaches” homosexuality (Cameron & Cameron, 1995, 1996) (see also LeVay, 1996).

Anonymous 09/03/19 (Tue) 09:25:52 PM No. 457567

>>457539
Those are some interesting points anon, but how does that make them misandrists? They don't hate men, just a particular idea of men.

>>457562
Damn, that actually makes sense, I have heard it's how paedos "reproduce", by molesting little boys who then themselves become paedos, which similarly to the gay thin I still don't get, because if you yourself have suffered that, how on earth do you develop wanting to do it to other little boys?

Anonymous 09/03/19 (Tue) 09:27:26 PM No. 457569

>>457512
>>457510
internalized x is literally caused by jealousy guys.

Anonymous 09/03/19 (Tue) 09:29:03 PM No. 457571

>>457567
It's bullshit told by pedos to make us feel sorry for them. Most were not molested themselves.

Anonymous 09/03/19 (Tue) 09:30:11 PM No. 457572

>>457569
Internalized misogyny is not caused by jealousy…

Anonymous 09/03/19 (Tue) 09:32:30 PM No. 457576

>>457567
>>457489
>>457459
Ayrt what i meant by that is that they hate toxic white dudes and they don't want to be one so now they're beautiful lesbians.

One of them told me before trooning out that if he were a woman he would hate men too. At the same time he polices me on sexualized characters and feminism.

Anonymous 09/03/19 (Tue) 09:36:07 PM No. 457579

>>457576
Wait, you are talkinga about troons? The conversation was about normal (cis) men.

Anonymous 09/03/19 (Tue) 09:41:44 PM No. 457582

>>457572
then what is it caused by?

Anonymous 09/03/19 (Tue) 09:44:11 PM No. 457585

>>457582
A massive misogynstic culture that makes women hate themselves and men hate women. It's based on feelings and concepts of worthlessness, not jealousy.

Anonymous 09/03/19 (Tue) 09:49:19 PM No. 457588

>internalized misandry exists
>being raped as a kid makes you gay
>women get internalized misogyny because they are jealous

These gender critical threads are getting worse

Anonymous 09/03/19 (Tue) 09:50:48 PM No. 457589

>>457588
I mean, at least the conversation is interesting. I am learning new things.

Anonymous 09/03/19 (Tue) 09:54:43 PM No. 457592

>>457588
The first two are true though.

Anonymous 09/03/19 (Tue) 09:55:42 PM No. 457593

>>457588
Homophobe-chan is being extra salty.

Anonymous 09/03/19 (Tue) 09:57:35 PM No. 457598

>>457589
>I am learning new things.
Just like how you would learn new things from /pol/ infographics

Anonymous 09/03/19 (Tue) 10:03:14 PM No. 457600

>>457598
Explain please. The guy who hates men and himself was pretty interesting and I liked the things he said in that video. I had heard about gays and paedophiles often being raped as children before too. Internalized misogyny and jealousy I disagree with, doesn't make sense to me.

Anonymous 09/03/19 (Tue) 10:03:14 PM No. 457607

>>457588
Lots of terferservatives nowadays. Really makes “radfems” look no different from the alt-right and makes the TRAs seem right all along about their “terfs are crypto fash” conspiracy.

Anonymous 09/03/19 (Tue) 10:04:29 PM No. 457610

>>457598
Ah damn, sorry for all the replies, the site was unresponsive and I pressed new reply too many times. Can I delete the extra posts somehow?

Anonymous 09/03/19 (Tue) 10:10:40 PM No. 457615

>>457588
This thread in general has been shit. Seems like that one anon with an extreme hatred for homos keeps ban evading to screech about some ludicrous trash about gay men committing something something 50% of CSA in the world and lesbians something something oppress heterosexuals by not liking dick.

Anonymous 09/03/19 (Tue) 10:14:39 PM No. 457617

>>457615
Yeah it's been shit, this is gender critical not gay critical. Gc feminism isn't compatible with homophobia.

Anonymous 09/03/19 (Tue) 10:21:59 PM No. 457618

>>457615
I don't get posters like that. If you've been reported and banned multiple times for the same thing, why not just stop? Post about other things, or find another board. Lolcow is not the end of the world.
Why does she keep coming back? Does she get a rush every time she gets the negative attention?

Anonymous 09/03/19 (Tue) 10:24:59 PM No. 457622

>>457617
If that tradthot wanted to bash gays they could do it on literally any /pol/ thread or on the “curing lesbians” thread on /gif/.

Anonymous 09/03/19 (Tue) 11:02:42 PM No. 457630

>>457588
Being raped as a kid by a same-sex perp does tend to make you gay, it's called sexual imprinting

Anonymous 09/03/19 (Tue) 11:58:57 PM No. 457634

>>457310
Benjamin scale?

Anonymous 09/04/19 (Wed) 12:02:30 AM No. 457635

>Start new job
>Gay pride flags around office, across all departments
>Floor where the programmers work only has a trans flag hanging from the wall, no gay pride flag in sight

Why am I even surprised

Anonymous 09/04/19 (Wed) 12:10:10 AM No. 457638

>>457634
A spectrum for gender identity disorder used to distinguish transvestism from transsexualism, think of it as the trans equivalent to the Kinsey scale.

Anonymous 09/04/19 (Wed) 12:10:51 AM No. 457639

>>457610
For future reference, within 30 minutes of posting you you tick the little box next to the post and press the delete option that appears.

Anonymous 09/04/19 (Wed) 12:13:27 AM No. 457641

>>457635
But do they wear programming socks?

Anonymous 09/04/19 (Wed) 12:18:40 AM No. 457647

>>457638
With the way Blanchard goes about on his Twitter I think he deeply regrets letting AGP get legal status.

Anonymous 09/04/19 (Wed) 12:31:46 AM No. 457651

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>>457647
Blanchard is r/iamverysmart

Anonymous 09/04/19 (Wed) 12:34:37 AM No. 457655

>>457647
Oh he still sympathises with AGP but only if they admit to their AGP.

Anonymous 09/04/19 (Wed) 12:35:52 AM No. 457657

>>457639
Thanks!

>>457651
Blanchard is actually smart though.

Anonymous 09/04/19 (Wed) 12:38:04 AM No. 457659

>>457657
Is that why he believed AGP should transition and have legal status as women?

Anonymous 09/04/19 (Wed) 12:41:24 AM No. 457661

>>457659
He changed his mind about it. Even the smartest make mistakes, other parts of his research are very positive, especially the ones on domestic violence.

Anonymous 09/04/19 (Wed) 12:48:27 AM No. 457667

>>457659
>>457661
blachard is like all the rest of them. he's no genius. it doesn't take a brainiac to see that there's no m/f brain and that hairy-assed shims in thigh highs and ball-length lycra are retarded fetishists. any male going into this kind of shit generally is a sexist hack. blanchard is just way less sexist bc the majority of sexologists or even neurobiologists or any of that shit are HARDCORE chauvinists

Anonymous 09/04/19 (Wed) 12:52:20 AM No. 457668

>>457651
You know what no one would take the autogynephilia typology seriously if a woman came up with it so Blanchard can get away with saying very basic things.

Anonymous 09/04/19 (Wed) 12:53:25 AM No. 457669

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"An obvious lie", these fuckers. Women protected them and this is what they say, this is plain insulting and absolutely retarded. They can play dress up and cut their penises all they want but don't fucking imply we aren't more fucked than you or that we are even remotely similar, we are real women who suffer from birth because how society treats our bodies, you're just a male cumbrained asshole with a gross agp fetish. Fuck i'm pissed. Trannies were a mistake.

Anonymous 09/04/19 (Wed) 12:56:13 AM No. 457670

>>457651
Well duh, I think most gynephilic men do not see trannies as “real women”. Trannies also don’t get bashed for their “gender identity” but because they are seen as GNC men by other men which is homophobia.

Anonymous 09/04/19 (Wed) 01:00:47 AM No. 457672

>>457661
I can respect some of Blanchard’s work but his twitter makes him look like he’s clowning around

Anonymous 09/04/19 (Wed) 01:00:52 AM No. 457673

>>457515
I absolutely love Derrick Jensen. I have read many of his books and he is what introduced me to radical feminism. I would highly recommend his stuff, especially A Language Older Than Words (its not radfem lit but a great read regardless).

Anonymous 09/04/19 (Wed) 01:04:42 AM No. 457675

>>457669
Is this some sort of “terf dogwhistles” checklist? Trannies are no different from MRAs. I remember tumblr bashed MRAs for believing in “female privilege” but for some reason they support TRAs who say things like “AFAB privilege” or “cis privilege”.

Anonymous 09/04/19 (Wed) 01:07:59 AM No. 457676

Hasn’t Blanchard added two new typologies to the AGP and HSTS classification?

Anonymous 09/04/19 (Wed) 01:10:45 AM No. 457677

>>457676
AHE and ROGD? He posted about it but hasn’t published any work about it as far as I know.

Anonymous 09/04/19 (Wed) 01:59:04 AM No. 457690

>>457677
Sorry, what is AHE? Haven’t heard that one.

Anonymous 09/04/19 (Wed) 02:01:30 AM No. 457692

>>457690
Autohomoeroticism. Straight women who want to become gay men and have sexual relationships with gay men.

Anonymous 09/04/19 (Wed) 02:02:17 AM No. 457693

>>457690
Fujo fakebois

Anonymous 09/04/19 (Wed) 04:45:51 AM No. 457719

>>457102
Everyone except Fu is wearing a second more visible set of underpants with the running briefs…

Anonymous 09/04/19 (Wed) 05:47:05 AM No. 457728

>>457727
Damn don’t you ever get bored of ban evading?

Anonymous 09/04/19 (Wed) 06:33:20 AM No. 457736

someone should write some homophobe-chan x necessaryspeed4 fanfic.

Anonymous 09/04/19 (Wed) 07:03:49 AM No. 457739

>>457736
lmfao i need this in my life! 40% of it will just be necsped questioning her affair with homophobe-chan and drifting back into daydreams of her autistic husband, wondering if she made the right decision in her desperately trying to woo homophobe-chan out of her homophobic ways and right into her crotch

Anonymous 09/04/19 (Wed) 07:40:03 AM No. 457748

What the fuck keeps happening to this thread while I’m asleep

>>457719
Because everyone except Fu has a dick they’re tucking.
Isn’t it interesting how people only sympathise with and stand up for ‘masculine women’ when those ‘women’ are men?

Anonymous 09/04/19 (Wed) 04:38:50 PM No. 457822

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I had to lurk Lipstick Alley to see their take on the Chinese runner scandal and their comments did not disappoint. This dude didn’t even bother to shave his arm pits!

A poster there shared this link to about a Karolinska Institute in Sweden study about trans men and women and the effect of hrt on muscle strength. https://www.reddit.com/r/MenWinningWomensSport/comments/cx468f/the_times_transgender_row_stoked_by_new_findings/
Basically confirms what we already knew: HRT does not significantly decrease muscle strength in MTFs.
>“We have found that trans women’s muscle mass decreases by five per cent after a year but they maintained their strength levels throughout the treatment period.”
>Lundberg’s research, which he has presented at several scientific conferences, also found that women who have transitioned to be men and taken testosterone saw their muscle strength increase by 15 per cent, but they were still not as strong as men who transitioned to be women and took the testosterone blockers.

Even after HRT, males are still stronger than females who have undergone the powerful, permanently altering effects of testosterone.

Anonymous 09/04/19 (Wed) 04:43:17 PM No. 457823

>>457607
>be single issue activist
>Push people into the arms of the "alt-right" by deplatforming them until the only platforms they have are ones shared with the "alt-right"
>wonder very loudly why these people now share more views with the "altright" just like was originally claimed
Things that make you go hrrrm

Anonymous 09/04/19 (Wed) 04:58:06 PM No. 457826

ftm are fucking annoying. have to deal with one because of work and she keeps getting in discussion on femminicide and other women issues going on about "BUT MEN GET ABUSED TOO" shut up you fucking retard you are not a man and whiteknigthing them sure as fuck wont make you one.

Anonymous 09/04/19 (Wed) 05:13:57 PM No. 457831

>>457826
Ftm tend to become MRAs too so I don't have much sympathy for them even though mtfs get all the attention and support.

Anonymous 09/04/19 (Wed) 05:33:56 PM No. 457836

>>457486
Isn't this comic from an actual Neo-Nazi/alt-right bigot? Come on lolcow, you're better than this.

Anonymous 09/04/19 (Wed) 05:38:23 PM No. 457838

>>457836

don't see how that makes this individual comic less true.

Anonymous 09/04/19 (Wed) 06:11:20 PM No. 457844

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This company's products keep showing up on my Instagram feed. I finally decided to check out what this was all about because the most recent ad was about how it's Trans owned and this shit was the second most recent post.

Anonymous 09/04/19 (Wed) 06:14:52 PM No. 457846

>>457844
Where the fuck are her nipples?

Anonymous 09/04/19 (Wed) 06:33:33 PM No. 457852

>>457844
You really have to be mentally ill to go "I'm not in the right body! I have NIPPLES! I have to get my nipples removed so I can feel right as a man-woman-or-neither!"
Viewing our bodies as malleable machine-vessels meant to be altered, cut and sewn to express the "true" shape of our souls was a mistake and there is no fundamental difference between this and the otherkin belief that one can be "meant to" have the body of a wolf or angel but be put in the wrong body. People don't have nipple-less souls.

Anonymous 09/04/19 (Wed) 06:36:54 PM No. 457854

>>457844
The self-hatred is just plain sad.

Anonymous 09/04/19 (Wed) 07:34:11 PM No. 457871

>>457844
This is mental illness just increased by the misogynistic culture we live in

Anonymous 09/04/19 (Wed) 09:28:25 PM No. 457894

Question. What do your boyfriends/husbands think of troons?

Anonymous 09/04/19 (Wed) 09:52:59 PM No. 457901

I work with a troon who has been driving me and the other female workers up a wall with his weird fucking fetish.

He came up to me the other day- out of fucking NOWHERE just goes off on me for absolutely nothing, but he gets nasty and takes some digs at me because I was having trouble finishing something.

Anyway, this tranny, I shit you not, goes “S-sorry anon, urrrrgh, I just HATE when I feel all bitchy like this. I just started my cycle ;_;”

I just shrugged my shoulders and walked away from him. He pulls this shit every month where he pretends to be on his period, and acts like a huge asshole to the women and then blames it on “muh hormones giving me a period!! ;_;”

Coworkers and I wait until he’s not in the room and make fun of him ALL THE TIME. Even some of the guys will join in and talk about what a creep he is. It’s nice to know that creepy troons are good for one thing- being the guy at the office that’s so lame that everyone puts aside their differences to make fun of him.

Anonymous 09/04/19 (Wed) 10:03:36 PM No. 457903

>>457844
I think it’s funny when troons do this because they’re fucking up their own lives due to their stupidity. The only troons I feel bad for are the ones that transitioned because of homophobia or misogyny forcing them to do so. I know some women transition because they were raped at a young age which caused then to hate their female bodies and want to get rid of their vagina.

Anonymous 09/04/19 (Wed) 10:07:36 PM No. 457906

>>457588
A lot of newfags and tradfags lately. Especially that one anon who keeps ban evading to screech about gays. Anons shouldn't even be replying to them so they can stfu and stop derailing the thread.

Anonymous 09/04/19 (Wed) 10:17:01 PM No. 457907

>>457823
If their only issue is trannies and they agree with the alt-right so much then I don’t get why they hang around radical feminists who don’t believe women are born to be fucktoys for men like the alt-right does.

Anonymous 09/04/19 (Wed) 10:18:48 PM No. 457909

>>457907
This. They should just go to /pol/ or anywhere else tbh because there’s loads of groups which don’t like trannies but they’re probably intimidated by the misogyny lmao.

Anonymous 09/04/19 (Wed) 10:29:35 PM No. 457913

File: 1567636175823.jpg (151.89 KB, 721x1024, Cabaret.jpg)

>>457894
my bf and I are both bi so we spend a lot of time around the greater LGBT community (we are both kind of androgynous in style so trans people at work and stuff sort of flock to us cause we look safe lmao)

we both aren't like viscerally repulsed or anything and used to drink the kool aid pretty hard in college so we still hang out with some of our trans friends but we've both been getting more and more gc with time so it's harder and harder to keep "playing along"

i think we've both been attracted to tifs in the past (i hooked up with one in college) since my bf is openly bi I wouldn't be shocked or disgusted to know he had a crush on a tim (i think he had a little one on a male coworker who was "agender" and had a sort of david bowie thing going on) but the whole mentality/religion/cult/health issues is the part that matters more than to us than us both being bi bonobos into androgynous people.

also self drag but he thought I might have turned out to be a drag queen/cross-dresser before we met because that's what you get from using Halloween pics dressed as Liza Minnelli in Cabaret as your only photos on your dating profile

Anonymous 09/04/19 (Wed) 10:38:25 PM No. 457916

>>457894
my husband is a "live & let live" type and thinks im being mean by being gc. we had a longer conversation about it tho last week and im optimistic i can get him to understand this standpoint better as time goes on.
men generally dont hit peak trans tho because its not their rights that are being infringed upon.

Anonymous 09/04/19 (Wed) 11:11:41 PM No. 457923

>>457913
you guys sound cool.
>tfw no fellow gc bihet friends
>>457916
I think a lot of "cis" men who accept trans people (especially tims) think gender crit women are just "being mean" when our issues with gender theory concern safety, dignity and autonomy.

Anonymous 09/04/19 (Wed) 11:27:53 PM No. 457927

>>457907
I actually know some TiMs who are alt-right or they were alt-right before becoming a communist transbian.

Anonymous 09/04/19 (Wed) 11:30:59 PM No. 457928

Can someone explain to me how people don’t just see transbians as straight men? Even libfems have criticised “male feminists” because they do it to manipulate women but they don’t see how trans women are basically the same thing?

Anonymous 09/04/19 (Wed) 11:34:17 PM No. 457929

>>457894
My bf thinks I'm a terf and transphobic even after reading GC stuff but doesn't argue with me and I don't try to bring it up anymore. The only trans-related thing we have shared opinions on is Yaniv being disgusting.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 12:00:26 AM No. 457936

>>457928
They do. No one literally believes tims are women (except for like, crazy rich transhumanists, who don't believe in anything else for that matter).
Tims are narcs and handmaidens have low self esteem and get a high from the attention narcs give them for acting on their behalf. Their stated lack of belief in reproductive sex is a distraction; their actual goal is jerking themselves off over being able to force others to obey their delusions. You can cut them the most effectively by laughing at tranny bullshit as loud and as often as possible.
There is no shortage of self-hating women volunteering to be footsoldiers for any misogynist movement that exists.

>>457929
dump him

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 12:07:18 AM No. 457937

File: 1567642038210.jpg (Spoiler Image,2.21 MB, 398x9766, troon.jpg)

Say it with me ladies: Not. A. Mental. Illness.

Also, it's spoilered for a reason. If you don't want to see an enby troon mutilating himself, don't fucking click.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 12:10:03 AM No. 457938

>>457928
Some libfems only began to criticise male feminists after there were a huge number of abuse cases popping up involving these men, before that they used to obsess over every man on tumblr and would even call them "The Men of Tumblr". But even these days just calling yourself a male feminist gets you so much female attention with handmaidens going "omg we stan a king! you give me hope for men in this world!! please have my babies!"

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 12:34:40 AM No. 457940

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>>457937
jfc I have no words

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 12:35:04 AM No. 457941

>>457938
Men groomed women to get our self worth from nurturing them. Troons are helpless abandoned baby birds and all women have to do to rescue them is give them money and yell at feminists (something most women are itching for an excuse to do anyway)

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 12:37:36 AM No. 457943

File: 1567643855636.png (4.28 MB, 540x7510, 960o3azm3vd21.png)

>>457938
>The Men of Tumblr

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 01:13:43 AM No. 457954

>>457943
I wonder where all these men went when the abortion law discourse and protests took place lmao. They just want attention, they wouldn't move one finger for women.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 01:24:48 AM No. 457960

>>457943
I bet these men are all anti-feminists or troons now.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 01:31:30 AM No. 457963

>>457923
100% true, in my experience. And I hate how obvious to me as a woc–when I talk about race stuff, they get it, especially when it's something they've heard from a man. The most basic feminist shit that they've also heard from a man, sure, mostly. But stuff like gc things, that they cannot relate to, that only really impact women, that stroke their egos….they don't care. And so far for me, no matter how kind and reasonable and quiet I've been about them, men really just see us as needing to swallow our pain at best and being insane bitches at worst. I just try to keep my focus on women as much as possible, because men truly do not give a shit about how much this is affecting us.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 02:08:54 AM No. 457974

>>457894
My boyfriend doesn’t think critically about troons enough to have an opinion outside of “its weird” lmao. I was trans friendly at the start of our relationship and have gradually become more gender critical. I have a couple friends still that require different pronouns and while it’s easy for me to use them, he struggles in front of them and doesn’t bother when it’s just us lol. He’s bi too, but wouldn’t date one (neither would I) and doesn’t watch tranny porn.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 02:09:39 AM No. 457976

>>457943
For all the misandry memes that libfems make they actually really worship men and I’ve seen them get angry at radfems because “Radfems are genuine misandrists! They think men can’t be feminists and that trans women are men! They are vagina supremacists!”.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 02:17:37 AM No. 457977

>>457976
Libfems think misandry jokes are funny but when radfems make misandry jokes they get really threatened. It’s no wonder they get so defensive of TiMs because TiMs speak to them like men and they all bend over backwards for men but you can’t call them out for male behavior because they all brainwashed each other by saying “trans women are women” 500 times a day. They don’t want to face ostracization from their communities, or worse get labelled as a “TERF” which is used as a thought-terminating cliche. You can always expect power imbalances to concentrate themselves in “protected classes”, it’s like how priests can get away with abusing children for decades because nobody dares speak up against them or think they could do any wrong. TRAs really do operate like a cult.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 03:36:34 AM No. 457987

>>457937

What the actual fuck!!!!!

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 03:50:11 AM No. 457988

>>457937
>the jar on top of the Mrs. Fields box
You warned us but holy shit man

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 04:03:22 AM No. 457989

File: 1567656202644.png (28.07 KB, 726x557, support trans women.png)

Not sure if this has already been posted in a GC thread, but this is one of the most callous, self-absorbed things I've ever read, let alone from a TiM. Does anyone know who wrote it?

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 04:18:25 AM No. 457991

>>457923
The only problem men have with troons is related to fucking - men fear that troons might trick them into sleeping with them even though HSTS are uncommon. Most troons are AGP which means they're straight men just like the majority of men in the world. AGP harass women and erode women's rights but normal men do this too so that's why the non-trans men don't give a shit either.

All males is the same.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 04:28:12 AM No. 457992

>>457991
>men fear that troons might trick them into sleeping with them
This seems to be the only thing men focus on in regards to troons. I've seen comments from them about how afraid they are of accidentally sleeping with troons and nothing about the safety of women, some of them on /pol/ are actually thinking it's funny that "feminism is destroying itself" because of tranny discourse.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 04:32:08 AM No. 457993

>>457989
User is Trapdoor_doll but their account is purged. Only response to this comment is from OP who says "What a sad story :(".

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 04:38:37 AM No. 457994

>>457989
>had zero clue I was trans, just thought I had a drinking problem

What if the brain damage from drinking is what made you trans

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 04:41:02 AM No. 457995

>>457989
>attractive cis girl privilege
This sounds like MRA speak but instead they call it "female privilege".

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 04:57:32 AM No. 457999

>>457894
My husband is 100% gc with me and I am so thankful for it. I'm sorry for you ladies whose partners aren't on board.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 05:41:40 AM No. 458002

>>457844
How the fuck is your personal transition story in any way relevant to the product you’re selling (outside of claims of being trans owned)? Talk about mutilating your body on your own account, for fuck’s sake.

>>457989
The narcissism and lack of empathy really jumped out here. Mother of your children goes through something severely traumatic and all you can think is “teehee, she’s just jealous of me!” No wonder she’s pulling away.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 06:24:10 AM No. 458005

>>457894
My boyfriend is an extremely right wing and traditional Slavic man so you can kinda guess his opinion just from that.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 06:47:21 AM No. 458006

>>457894
My bf was largely team "live and let live". tl;dr mutual friend of ours came out publicly as a TiM (we had suspicions for a few years beforehand) and used shit my bf paid for to fuel gross BDSM fantasies.

Between that and hearing my own experiences he's peaked and assumes most TiMs are cumbrained dudes that absolutely should not be in women's spaces.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 07:23:00 AM No. 458009

Why do so many furries end up trooning out?

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 07:42:07 AM No. 458010

>>457894
My husband had a girly face and long hair though his teens (though he wore typical edgy band shirts and baggy pants) and got bullied until he cut his hair short, he's shocked there are "woke" people embracing gender roles and stereotypes.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 07:49:17 AM No. 458011

>>457894
He used to think troons were actual women despite not being attracted to him like he was a woman, lol, now he knows they are men in drag.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 07:51:30 AM No. 458013

>>458010
TRAs would say the bullies attacked your husband because they had internalized transmisogyny.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 07:54:34 AM No. 458014

>>458013
Can’t believe how widespread and accepted the term “transmisogyny” has become when it’s nothing but a snarl word creates by meme scholar Julia Serano.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 08:06:17 AM No. 458016

>>457937
how the fuck did he do this by himself without dying from the pain and blood loss?

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 08:10:27 AM No. 458017

>>457894
Same as >>457916
He’s a neuroscientist so he knows the idea of a gendered brain being born in the wrong body is nonsense, but he still believes that all trans-identified people have a mental illness, aka gender dysphoria, and that transitioning (medically or just socially) is the cure. He has equated trans children to children with cancer.

I’ve told him about the creepy AGPs I’ve personally been acquainted with and he agrees they are just misogynistic men with a fetish, but he doesn’t seem to grasp how much power these kinds of men now have within the trans movement. He still thinks they’re an insignificant minority and it’s best to ignore them.

>>457923
True. I’ve never personally been assaulted in a bathroom or otherwise so he doesn’t understand why I or anyone else would be uncomfortable with men in women’s bathrooms. We’re a straight, white, healthy, university educated, comfortably middle class couple with a strong social safety net who are relatively unlikely to be directly affected by trans activism. For me that means I know I need to seek out the experiences of other people to get a more accurate picture of the situation. For him that means he can easily pretend there’s nothing wrong at all.

One thing that worries me is how he spends a lot of time lurking Reddit. Mostly game and technology-related subreddits and r/legaladvice so nothing explicitly misogynistic or trans related, but apparently a lot of subreddits now have TIM moderators who actively push the TRA narrative and silence any dissenting voices, including flagging and preemptively banning any account that has ever posted in r/gc because it’s supposedly a “hate sub”. I worry about how this might be affecting his beliefs over time.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 09:23:28 AM No. 458037

>>458017
>He has equated trans children to children with cancer.
Wew

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 09:52:38 AM No. 458047

>>458037
In the sense that it’s very tragic that they have to suffer so much, and that their suffering gives them a more mature outlook on life. He doesn’t believe that any parent would talk their child into being trans because no parent would want their child to suffer like that, so trans kids must be genuine. He’s very naive that way.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 09:58:58 AM No. 458051

>>458047

Lactatia's and Desmond parents already show how willing some parents are to pimp their children for clout and at least them are not cutting their dicks off or injecting them with chemicals that will kill them from cancer or organ failure in a few years.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 10:03:13 AM No. 458053

>>458037

>comparing children with cancer to children who are being injected carcinogens by their cancer parents.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 10:03:13 AM No. 458054

>>458037

>comparing children with cancer to children who are being injected carcinogens by their cancer parents.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 10:42:02 AM No. 458071

>>458051
>>458053
I’ve explained how harmful puberty blockers are to the developing body but he counters that by saying that chemotherapy is toxic to the body as well and we still use it because it’s better than the alternative, with the alternative for trans kids being suicide. It’s a very emotional subject and most of the time we end up agreeing to disagree to keep the peace. Practically everyone I’ve talked to about this feels the same way he does. It’s very frustrating.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 11:23:59 AM No. 458079

>>457894
My boyfriend thinks it's weird but works in healthcare so he has to try and be respectful of pronouns and stuff like that. Unfortunately for them he's legitimately terrible at recognising anything other than biological sex. A man can roll up in a dress with long hair and it just won't click that these are signals it's a TiM so he'll treat him like a man. It's not malicious or anything, he's just relatively blunt with his thoughts.

Of course he's a straight man so TiMs never say a word about it because it's women they secretly hate

>>457989
She probably pushes him away because
1.she survived cancer and his dumb ass is like "lmao she looks 40" instead of "wow thank god the mother of my child is still alive"
2. Nobody wants to hang out with a dude that thinks it's appropriate to compare their moobs to somebody who has justgone through a masectomy.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 11:33:39 AM No. 458081

>>458071

There is no possible mental pirouette that can justify taking perfectly healthy infants and exposing them to destructive surgical procedures and injecting him/her with hormones that will have serious consequences for the rest of their lives.

Considering this whole gender idendity thing is extremely subjective and is not something you can simply get some lab tests for, its pretty much mutilating a kid who is not even sexually developed and has no notion of gender or what he is talking about because he said he likes Barbie dolls and his shitty parents said it was ok on the off chance that he/she may have disphoria as an adult.

The whole notion of "trans kids" even existing is flawed to the core. Its child abuse, these kids can't consent on anything that is being done to them.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 12:39:22 PM No. 458099

What are medical professionals supposed to do about TiMs and the subject of things like prostate cancer? Are they allowed to bring it up, or are we going to tip toe around the subject for risk of offending?
This happens with obesity now. Doctors don't want to offend or the patient doesn't want to be offended (too sensitive). Then things like the health implications are not addressed.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 12:44:29 PM No. 458101

>>457894
He always believed that they were attention-seeking and troubled even well before they exploded online and while I was accepting them, but I've become more militant than him.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 02:18:37 PM No. 458124

>>457937
Blogpost but I store my weed in same exact kind of glass jar as he stuffed his balls into oh my god I need to throw it out god damn he's only 22 why the fuck did he do this to himself

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 02:30:12 PM No. 458128

https://thefederalist.com/2019/08/30/heres-people-used-transgender-telling-supreme-court/
Article about the amicus brief being presented to the Supreme Court by people who have detransitioned.

>>457894
My husband thinks that they're a danger to women and children. He posts on /cow/ so like me has been made aware of a lot troons like Nic Nyberg, Laurelai Bailey and recently Jonathan Yaniv.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 02:32:46 PM No. 458130

File: 1567693965950.png (1.1 MB, 1351x577, wew.PNG)

>>457937
it's like a legit, nice website too. damn

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 02:33:21 PM No. 458131

>>458099
I remember a thing on twitter where a TiM posted a letter he got from the NHS saying it's time for a gynaecological check-up and laughing about how silly and inefficient the bureaucratic NHS is, although probably also bragging that he's now legally recognized as a woman.

Which of course means that in the UK there are TiFs that WONT be getting that letter and this TiM is going to get to an age where he wont be getting the letter to summon him for a prostate check-up so all these trannies are at risk of getting cancer and it not being discovered until it's too late.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 02:42:02 PM No. 458133

Just saw this on x/ and made me think of this thread lol. There's many angles to it but the push for transvestites and dickgirls really seems like illuminati stuff sometimes.

>>457943

wtf i regret clicking it aaaahhhhhhhhh

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 03:01:23 PM No. 458141

File: 1567695682990.jpg (182.01 KB, 787x899, Contra ''ND into an NBs face w…)

Hontra deleted his twitter today after getting cancelled by the ultra woke queer squad for offending non-binary folx with these tweets. No one seems to hate TRAs more than each other.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 03:09:02 PM No. 458142

>>458141
gender was a mistake

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 03:16:09 PM No. 458147

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>>458141
>semi-passable
where? in a gay bar?
the worst part is that you know he corrected himself from 'passing'

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 03:24:10 PM No. 458148

>>458130
>Service providers shut down 8ch
>Shit like this is allowed to stay up

Fuck sake.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 03:29:00 PM No. 458152

>>457976
>>457977
Ironically radfem misandry actually benefits men more

libfem misandry jokes are all over the top memes and hashtags that they repeat with almost no variations usually accompanied with fictional female characters drinking however radfem misandry is based on truth and gets men to look at themselves critically and be better,I have talked to men online who stopped watching Porn and started going go the gym to better themselves because of radfems

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 03:32:11 PM No. 458153

>>458152
Yeah. My boyfriend is really really right wing but he actually likes Gail Dines' message about men "being better than the porn companies say they are". He thinks it's positive and can lead to self improvement.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 03:40:50 PM No. 458154

>>458141
Apparently Contra called himself one of the last of the "old school transexuals" KEK he thinks he's that important.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 04:12:49 PM No. 458160

>>457894

Me and my bf both come from very traditional italian and spanish families. We still share a lot of conservative values and lean right wing but we are both very liberal and secular. We believe heavily in individual freedom and the pursue of happiness even when it goes against the grain so we never really minded gays and drag and stuff like that, to each its own, if its genetic or if its a choice, no matter, people can live how they want but we have never been like this american "woke" stereotype who sperg about how they are allies and love gays and pride stuff, and pronouns or constantly bring it up, that stuff is just not a thing for us but my bf is not very macho, he is very lighthearted and chill. My brothers and males in my family are also jokesters and good people.

We naturally first saw trans as homosexuals in drag that took it further, so we are both like, " wathever? they are adults, its their problem, if i come across one i am not going to be impolite or say wrong pronouns even when its funny but i don't think they are women (or males in that case)"

At some point i started reading more into it and started finding out gc or the usual pol/ stuff and fell into the rabithole realizing how fucked it actually was and the pseudoscience behind it and the wird ideologies. My bf now feels even more strongly against this than me and is more conservative than ever. This is not about individual freedom anymore when there are kids involved and so much brainwashing and thought control for women to accept them and override their own causes with tranny causes. So many lines have been crossed. Being against it is not about ideology or being conservative or liberal, is common sense. I still would not be rude to a trans, but i don't buy anything of that they are selling and i don't want them near kids or in my bathrooms or lecturing people about anything.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 05:45:58 PM No. 458176

>>458141
I hope this unleashes the can of worms about his misogyny to the public.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 06:14:09 PM No. 458183

>>458141
>>458147
>semi passable transes like me
KEK this delusional narcissist
>>458154
why would he even try to claim this? he's a confirmed sissy fetishist/psuedobisexual. he doesn't have a hsts bone in his body.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 06:53:43 PM No. 458201

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/08/04/woman-2

Interesting this was written 5 years ago.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 06:54:22 PM No. 458204

>>458183
Luckily for a generic millennial AGP who got memed into medically transitioning by an echochamber like Hontra the new era of absolutely brain wormed genderfluid zoomers who think you can demand to be seen as whatever made-up identity you want this particular minute without altering your appearance in any way make him look normal for recognizing only two genders.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 07:13:23 PM No. 458216

>>457894
He thinks they are insane men and is disgusted when we see one in public, but his favorite pornstar is a troon, Sarina Valentina… I don't know what the fuck he's thinking, I tried talking to him but he just said "She" looks like a woman to him. I am not sure what to think.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 07:30:08 PM No. 458226

>>458216
He's closeted. As is any man that watches porn with dicks involved. There's no shortage of solo, or lesbian videos for them to watch.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 07:38:33 PM No. 458235

>>458226
right so, question quickly: is someone that imagines having a penis and having sex with women in porn then a lesbian?

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 07:52:05 PM No. 458240

>>458216
Are you trolling right now or what?

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 07:52:13 PM No. 458241

>>458201
> Several trans women arrived and sat at the back, but, in fact, they were there to express solidarity, having decided that the attacks on radical feminists were both out of control and misguided. One of them, a thin, forty-year-old blonde from the Bay Area, who blogs under the name Snowflake Especial, noted that all the violence against trans women that she’s aware of was committed by men. “Why aren’t we dealing with them?” she asked.
I want a timeline where this is the direction it all went in

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 08:45:47 PM No. 458276

>>458226
We have been together for 5 years now, I think I would know if he was closeted. He is sexually submissive though, would that play a part?

>>458240
100% serious…

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 08:47:53 PM No. 458278

>>458216
Date him for fun if you must, anon, but do not marry this man. Eventually he will troon out himself, men who like troons always do.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 08:49:03 PM No. 458281

>>458276
If you are serious that is disgusting. He may not be “gay”. A lot of AGP men are submissive and not gay. Chasers usually end up full-on AGPs. So you are dating a chaser who might “hatch” into a full on AGP troon. Either get him therapy or leave IMO

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 08:50:18 PM No. 458282

>>458278
I really like him anon, other than this thing he is perfect. I can' but think I am stupid to be this bothered by it, because it's such a small thing. Finding a man as good as him is not easy, you know how most of them are.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 08:50:32 PM No. 458283

>>458278
>>458281

agree with this. liking to be submissive isn't a red flag on its own, but into tranny porn + into submission pretty much always equals agp. they see submission as a "woman" thing, so they think being submissive makes them female.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 08:51:14 PM No. 458285

>>458282
Has he ever mentioned sissy hypno? Guarantee you he's into that kind of porn. I'd bet money on it.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 08:56:28 PM No. 458289

>>458283
>>458285
I don't think he is like that. He is very much against gender roles, which is one of the things I like about him, so he doesn't see things as man things or woman things. But that's what I see, I can not really know what he thinks, I understand that. He might have AGP though, since he likes crossdressing. But for him it's not like humiliation because he wears the clothes of the lesser gender, which I believe is what most of them are into. He is like super submissive, in our sex time with that theme he basically feels like he is not good enough to even wear a woman's clothes because he is a man, like he is a reverse misogynist, he thinks men are lesser, but only in sex. He is super egalitarian in real life… Is it possible to have AGP and not troon out?

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 08:56:53 PM No. 458290

>>458141
Why is he so butt blasted with being referred to with they/them pronouns? Normal people don’t care. Does he need the validation that he is a ~woman~?

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 08:58:18 PM No. 458293

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>>458216
>Sarina Valentina
>"She" looks like a woman to him.
he sees "woman" as a costume, because this does not look like a woman. (nsfw image) Please look after yourself anon.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 08:59:12 PM No. 458296

>>458289
oh, anon.

he's going to troon out in the next five years. take it from someone who's seen this happen dozens of times, he sounds like a textbook case. and when he does troon out, if you're still with him, you'll look back at this moment and feel so foolish.

i know you won't break up with him based on the say-so of a few strangers on lolcow so instead i wish you the best of luck. when he troons out leave him, because it'll just be downhill from there. that's when the abuse will start.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 08:59:31 PM No. 458297

>>458154
What? Does he think he’s an HBSer? He’s a straight man so that doesn’t make sense.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 09:00:10 PM No. 458298

>>458293
Jesus, this is disgusting. He showed me pics of him when I asked and he did not look like that, the ones he showed me, you could really confuse him for a woman. That's abhorrent though, wtf.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 09:03:05 PM No. 458300

>>458216
Your boyfriend is either bisexual or a GAMP who will troon out soon

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 09:04:11 PM No. 458303

>>458296
So AGPs always troon out? There must be something to do to stop it? He has never had an issue with his gender, other than with other people's expectations. We have actually talked about it and he just sees man as meaning adult male and that's that, I thought that was a good and healthy way to look at it.

>>458297
HBS is the homosexual troons? Sorry I do not know all the names. He is straight as far as I know, I was saying that his AGP seems to come from his really submissive side rather than jealousy for women, which from these threads at least, seems to be where most troons get it.

>>458300
I am pretty sure he is not bi, a lot of bi guys have hit on him and he was never interested in the past. What is GAMP, I am unfamiliar with this term?

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 09:06:25 PM No. 458306

>>458241
Snowflake Especial along Mindergenfield and all those other HSTS used to be active on Tumblr and they got a lot of hate and it’s still common for some AGP to think “all HSTS are secretly radfem allies”

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 09:07:05 PM No. 458309

>>458289
To be fair Anon, you know him better than we do. The only thing you can do is ask to be 100% sure is ask.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 09:07:49 PM No. 458310

>>458303
Straight men don't find penises sexy, anon. He specifically masturbates to porn featuring a "woman" with a penis, when there's tons upon tons of lesbian and solo porn out there if he doesn't want to look at ugly hairy men. He's not straight. Lots of closeted men project their desire for dick on to trannies because they're still dealing with internalized homophobia, it's very common.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 09:08:09 PM No. 458311

>>458276
If he’s a GAMP then its highly likely he has AGP himself.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 09:11:39 PM No. 458314

>>458309
You are right of course anon, but we have had the gender conversation when he told me he was submissive, I was kind of fumb back then and thought submission equals woman or gay in men, I have done a lot of growing up since. He said he is comfortable in his sex and his gender as an extension of it, but just not with society's understanding with it. I am not sure how I can ask him further. I can't just go and say "So do you think of cutting your dick off?".

>>458310
I mean, I would agree with you if it was the only or dominant porn he watches, but I know his porn habbits and that is a very small part of it. He mostly reads femdom stories in story sites, the tranny thing is a rare thing he does, it's why I still have some hope that it's just a quirk or something.

>>458311
Can you please explain what GAMP is?

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 09:12:04 PM No. 458316

>>458310
this. i've had a few "straight" male friends who liked futa hentai who were actually male leaning bi, or gay. and futa is arguably more aesthetically pleasing to look at than tims.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 09:12:57 PM No. 458318

>>458303
Gynandromophophiles, men who are attracted to trannies. They are just just bi men who genuinely like trannies or straight men with AGP who want to be the tranny.

>>458310
Or he could just be a GAMP.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 09:14:12 PM No. 458320

>>458314

out of interest, is the tranny porn he likes tranny/tranny, tranny/woman or tranny/man?

tranny/woman is at least heterosexual porn, though if the object of his lust is the tranny then he's still bisexual, not straight.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 09:15:45 PM No. 458323

>>458320

I was curious too so I looked up Sarina Valentina. Seems like 99% of the videos are with other troons or men. So anon's boyfriend is watching two men fuck each other but he's "straight" lol.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 09:17:15 PM No. 458325

>>458318
I did say above, he likes crossdressing and is super submissive, but he has never expressed any desire to be a woman. If you see my previous posts, he seems to do it out of submission, not will to be a female. Isn't that different from AGP?

>>458320
I don't know details anon, I have only seen pics.

>>458323
I mean, I think he's straight? I don't mind if he isn't, I just don't want him to troon out, I am bi myself.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 09:17:53 PM No. 458326

File: 1567718272960.jpg (4.85 MB, 5616x3744, womenlaughing[1].jpg)

>Knows he faps to troons
>Knows he crossdresses
>Knows he's a sub (probably wants to get pegged)
>Still thinks he's straight
A classic case of "Not my Nigel"

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 09:19:12 PM No. 458327

>>458325
Why would crossdressing and submission be the same if he doesn't think femaleness = submissive? Why would fapping to troons and submission be the same if he doesn't think being penetrated = submissive? All roads with AGP lead back to "Being a woman is the same as being a submissive cockslut." Always.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 09:19:23 PM No. 458328

>>458326
See this please >>458325. I don't care if he is bi, I just don't want him to think he's a woman.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 09:20:20 PM No. 458330

>>458325
>watches shemale porn
Sounds like GAMP to me.
>he likes crossdressing and is super submissive
Sounds like AGP to me.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 09:22:47 PM No. 458335

>>458328
>I don't care if he is bi
Not caring doesn't stop HIV. From what you've posted so far I suspect he does a lot more that you consciously, or sub-consciously try to ignore, or down play.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 09:23:13 PM No. 458337

>>458325
A femdom anon here, I stay away from men who like crossdressing for a very good reason.
>he basically feels like he is not good enough to even wear a woman's clothes because he is a man
This still counts as "women are inferior, so dressing as them is humiliating". If you didn't ask him to do it, it's not out of submission to you. He gets some kind of sexual thrill from wearing womens clothes by itself, which is a huge red flag.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 09:24:19 PM No. 458339

>>458333
I used to think maybe hormones could change your sexual orientation with so many trannies “turning bi” but now I realize this isn’t the case and what they have insteas is pseudobisexuality where they maintain their heterosexual orientation but also want to get fucked by men to create a “submissive female image”.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 09:24:31 PM No. 458340

>>458330
But how is he AGP if he doesn't think of himself as a woman? Isn't that the whole point of AGP?

>>458327
I asked him about this as well anon and he explained to me. When we are in these sessions he is really really submissive. Like, even self hating. He says how better I am than him for being a woman and smart and beautiful and stuff like that. The whole point of crossdressing for him is the humiliation that comes not from being dressed in a womans=submissive clothes but from males being ugly and looking ridiculous in the "superior" sex's clothes. And yes I know it sounds fucked up, but it works for us. If anything , isn't he expressing that he is in fact male and not a woman?

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 09:24:33 PM No. 458341

>>458314
Well, if he said he's comfortable in his sex/gender that's really all you need to know. Chances are he was exposed to troon porn as well as crossdressing early on, it became a habit, and it just stuck with him. That's usually how it goes for most fetishes. He doesn't seem to think lesser of women, based on what you said. Do you ever have sexual interactions where he doesn't cross-dress/feminize himself?

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 09:26:34 PM No. 458343

>>458340
AGP in a nutshell is being aroused by the thought of yourself as being female. You don't necessarily have to truly believe yourself to be a woman, you just have to be turned on by the thought of yourself being one or being turned into one.

The mindset is that being female makes someone a sex object who's barely even human, so to be a woman or to become a woman is to become a mindless slut. That's why you see so much overlap with AGP, sexual submission and bimbofication.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 09:27:23 PM No. 458344

>>458342
It's insane the doublethink these men put them through. "Men are superior", but they like to get dominated by the inferior gender because it's humiliating, and that activates their dicks. I'm just glad that they're usually so pornsick that they advertise their kinks everywhere.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 09:28:54 PM No. 458345

>>458303
>HBS is the homosexual troons?
No, just people who subscribe to the Harry Benjamin theory of transsexualism. The idea that you can be a woman’s brain trapped inside a man’s body. It’s popular with transmeds/truscum.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 09:29:36 PM No. 458347

>>458326
>>458335
>>458323

Aren't so many anons in this threads on board with gender non conforming and fluid sexuality as long as no trooning is involved though? i smell some double standards

>Not caring doesn't stop HIV.

h-homophobe-chan?

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 09:30:02 PM No. 458348

Lmao kink was a mistake

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 09:33:35 PM No. 458350

>>458347
Hilariously, a lot of bi women hate bi men because of the stereotype that they are unfaithful, disease-ridden, and promiscuous but complain about suffering discrimination themselves

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 09:34:09 PM No. 458351

>>458333
Please look at my posts, he is nothing like that. He actually says that most women would be dominant if they gew up without being messed up by society. He actually thinks men make better subs than women, this is why I don't think he actually has AGP.

>>458335
Anon we were both virgin when we met, also we live in Greece, there is no AIDS here outside of like 2 cities.

>>458341
Thanks anon, I know I am whining in an anonymous imageboard but some words of confidence really help. He is definetely not a sexist outside of the bedroom and when in the bedroom he actually acts out as if men<women, so the exact opposite. And yes! In fact his crossdressing is rare, he doesn't ask for it that often and I even found it fun myself before coming here and discovering the gender critical general and started worrying about it.

>>458338
Sorry anon, I thought the residents here would know more on the subject.

>>458337
>>458342
>>458344
Anons, he is not like that, did you even read my post? He feels embarassed like a boy being put in a large suit that he can not fill, that's how he explained it. How on earth can you say he is misogynstic?

>>458343
I get that anon, but it's logical to assume that someone can have other traits that correlate with AGP without having AGP if they do not present the actual main issue with AGP, which is being turned into a woman. I think it makes sense.

>>458345
Ok, that sounds dumb, he definitely doesn't believe that, he knows what chromosomes are.

>>458347
Thanks anon, that's what I feel is going on. I dont know why the other anons assume misogyny from him when he actually expresses to me that he considers women to be better than men in general, especially during sexual sessions.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 09:34:29 PM No. 458352

>>458347
There is nothing wrong with GNC since gender is fake but getting turned on by acting in a female role is a red flag

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 09:36:20 PM No. 458354

>>458351
You obviously already have your mind made up, so why keep replying? The guy obviously needs therapy at the least, being turned on by such an extreme inferiority complex isn't health.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 09:36:24 PM No. 458355

>>458351
>actually believing in sub/dom roles during sex

Why is this is in a “radfem” thread

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 09:36:34 PM No. 458356

>>458351

i feel bad for you anon, you clearly like this guy a lot. i'm not even gonna try to convince you, there's no reason for you to believe internet strangers over the guy you dated for five years.

i just want you to remember this moment when he troons out. and he will. look back, remember we warned you, and then take the advice i'm going to give you now: leave him.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 09:39:07 PM No. 458359

>>458347
>h-homophobe-chan?
You're seriously delusional if you think there is only one anon on lolcow who doesn't like gay men.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 09:40:42 PM No. 458360

>>458354
I don't have my mind set anon, I am replying because I am trying to find out what is going on by comparing my position with those of others. I don't see why he would need therapy. If sex is a healthy outlet for someones issues and it's sex that doesn't hurt anyone why would he need therapy?

>>458355
I was asking because I am not an expert on the subject. Also what is wrong with sub/dom roles if it's only in the bedroom?

>>458356
Ok anon, thanks for the conversation in any case.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 09:45:30 PM No. 458362

>>458360
I don’t know why people always think feminist critiques can apply to all aspects of society unless it’s in the bedroom, has to do with troons, or when it comes to religion.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 09:45:54 PM No. 458363

>>458360
Sex is not a healthy outlet for issues no matter what "kink culture" may have told you. Those inferiority issues are still bothering him outside of sex. Conditioning himself to get aroused by negative thoughts is not good.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 09:46:08 PM No. 458364

>>458355

Yet is only one person getting banned and her comments erased? or are all getting kicked out?

>>458352
>but getting turned on by acting in a female role is a red flag

So a woman into femdom and dressing male is too? i am just curious because it does seem to be a double standard in that aspect, obviously not with the trooning and fapping to troons.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 09:48:48 PM No. 458365

>>458355
The actual radfem thread had femdoms shitting it up too.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 09:49:18 PM No. 458366

>>458362
What would feminism critique about me liking having control in the bedroom and him liking that?

>>458363
It's not inferiority exactly though anon, it's stuff like men being more violent, more likely to abandon their spouses, caring less for their kids, starting and fighting wards, stuff like that, which is true. He just says he thinks women are better because our negativity is nowhere near that damaging, which to be fair, I agree. So he prefers letting women have control, I don't see why that is inferiority or even unreasonable.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 09:49:48 PM No. 458367

>>458362
Libfems will defend porn, BDSM, and prostitution so much. It’s absolutely bizarre.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 09:55:03 PM No. 458371

>>458351
I think people are rightfully cautious considering all the factors: tranny porn, crossdressing, sexual submission, etc. At most those are just things to look out for, but not exactly indicative of anything wrong, especially since it's not a compulsion. At least the first 2 seem to be occasional things. You know your boyfriend and his views better than anyone here. Of course, some people may say he's lying, and a lot of people in long-term relationships do lie. So you have to look at his actions. If he has never degraded you or women in general (in fact he seems to be more positive about women in a general sense), ever showed bitterness over being a man, ever expressed wanting to be a woman, then why worry about it? I think maybe he has been a little conditioned by porn, and not even so much since the things you mentioned don't seem to be running his fapping habits or your sex life.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 09:55:49 PM No. 458373

>>458367
nta but I'm curious about radical feminism and hope this question doesn't come off as vicious or offensive. What makes it incompatible with femdom? Do radfems actually care that men are humiliating themselves? I thought radical feminism was the branch of feminism that is man-exclusive so why would you be concerned about submissive men?

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 09:57:37 PM No. 458374

>>458371
Thanks anon, I would use a smiley emoji if it was ok to do so. I just became a little paranoid after coming here and spending some time on this general. I might just need some time away from the internet.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 09:58:11 PM No. 458375

>>458373
Do you mean woman exclusive?

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 09:59:24 PM No. 458376

>>458373
Radical feminists think all kink is retarded and femdom still implies the normative “dom” is a male default

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 09:59:30 PM No. 458377

>>458375
yes, esl sorry

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 10:03:20 PM No. 458378

>>458376
>and femdom still implies the normative “dom” is a male default

What? No it doesn't.

>>458377
Radfem is not male exclusive, only lesbian seperatists are male exclusive.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 10:03:20 PM No. 458379

>>458376
I was thinking it was just kink that is harmful to women like ddlg, but I guess being a 'domme' can be harmful as well for the psyche.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 10:03:20 PM No. 458380

>>458373
You know men are into femdom because they want to get humiliated by the “inferior sex” right? Not to mention femdom still has women dressed and acting in a way that panders towards men. Kinks don’t exist in a vacuum.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 10:03:20 PM No. 458381

>>458376
>and femdom still implies the normative “dom” is a male default

What? No it doesn't.

>>458377
Radfem is not male exclusive, only lesbian seperatists are male exclusive.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 10:03:52 PM No. 458383

>>458373
I think a lot of the fact stems from the porn view of femdom, which is male-centric. A woman all dolled up in uncomfortable leather gear barking the exact JOI a man wants to hear isn't indicative of any control/dominance on her part or submission on his part. She's just pleasing him in a different flavor even if she's caning him, hitting him, etc. Not to mention "porn" femdom encourages the man to be as unattractive as possible: balding, middle-aged, fat, having a worthless dick that she can derive no pleasure from, etc. Probably the worst thing too is the "domme" making the male sub wear something like perfectly normal panties and then passing it off as being the most humiliating demeaning experience ever… Honestly femdom and BDSM in general is pretty shit.

>>458374
No problem anon, I think you just need to realize that you have to look at your specific situation and judge from there. Nobody here is trying to be malicious and just warn you about what they have seen or experienced.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 10:07:41 PM No. 458384

>>458381
I meant female exclusive, dangit

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 10:08:26 PM No. 458385

what's with these threads lately i come here to laugh and cringe at stupid troons but you're always fighting and trolling and homophobechanning

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 10:09:15 PM No. 458386

>>458383
I know anon, I do think most answers were simply what people would advise a friend, which I appreciate. Also you are absolutely correct about femdom porn, it's bottoms everywhere, almost none of them are subs. I think that's why my bf doesn't watch actual porn and prefers stories, he is a genuine sub not a bottom.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 10:12:24 PM No. 458389

>>458381
>Radfem is not male exclusive
Yes it is. Men can’t be radfems, only radfem allies. You clearly haven’t read any books.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 10:14:05 PM No. 458390

>>458386
That's good, you should hold onto them as they are hard to find. My bf is an actual sub, although he has never identified as one, and it's the nicest thing ever. He has a healthy self-esteem, no over-inflated ego, doesn't see it as demeaning to submit to me, genuinely puts me first in the bedroom and outside. Sub men who don't get caught up in the shitty porn/internet culture are wonderful partners. Too bad people's opinion of femdom are influenced by porn and dominatrices. I feel like a lot is misunderstood.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 10:14:23 PM No. 458391

>>458385
Terfservatives. Radfems are radical leftists who originated from the Civil Rights Movement but this thread has women actual defend kink lmao.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 10:15:01 PM No. 458392

>>458389
>Men can’t be radfems
>only radfem allies.
If a man is holding radical feminist opinions how is he not a radical feminist? Why would you call him an ally instead of a radical feminist?

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 10:16:19 PM No. 458393

>>458381
Female separatism itself is a part of radical feminist theory and you literally can’t be a radical feminist if you’re a male.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 10:17:58 PM No. 458394

>>458390
So happy for you anon, I am glad to hear your relationship is that great. Sounds a lot like mine to be honest, well except for the self esteem issue, but that's mostly in bed and mostly about his sex in general not him. But yeah, the general public thinks we are barely better than prostitutes beucase of Findoms and other similar shit, our PR is terrible.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 10:18:22 PM No. 458395

>>458380
I've never thought about it this way, interesting.

>>458383
That perspective makes sense. So a woman being the more 'in control' partner in sex and leading everything is fine, but I guess the term femdom has more porn-related connotations.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 10:19:30 PM No. 458396

>>458393
Lesbian seperatism is a particular part of radical feminsm, not all rad fems are stupid enough to consider it seriously, except for lesbians ofc who can feasibly engage in it and larp.

>you literally can’t be a radical feminist if you’re a male.
Please explain why.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 10:21:46 PM No. 458397

>>458392
Radical feminism is a women-for-women space. It is a female space and males aren’t allowed in. This isn’t hard, anon.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 10:21:59 PM No. 458398

>>458395
Femdom just means female domination anon. Of course there is commercialized porn of it, but it is not inherently problematic. It IS problematic when it has the form that the other anon talked about, being dominated by the "inferior" sex. But it can also be done in a perfectly feminist way if you want, you just need a sub and not a bottom. Bottoms give the whole community a bad name because they are selfish misogynists who want to use women for pleasure. Subs are the opposite, they in fact put in above them and it's fantastic.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 10:22:50 PM No. 458399

>>458396
No, female separatism can mean a variety of things from just not enagaging with males as much by going to only see female doctors or read female authors to full-blown communal sing-sex commune.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 10:23:08 PM No. 458400

>>458397
Radical feminism is a philosophy anon, philosophies are not safe spaces, anyone can adopt them. The existence of woman spaces that rad fem supports does not make men incapable of agreeing with the philosophy and supporting woman only spaces.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 10:25:44 PM No. 458402

>>458399
I was under the impression that the first part of what you are describing was just female seperatism, not lesbian seperatism. But I see that's how you called it in your prior post, so my bad we were talking about different things. But referring to radfem and female seperatism, even then, it is a philosphy in its center, I don't see how some men, unusual for sure, can't consider it the correct way of doing things. I mean, there are non white white supremacists, I can not see how men can not be radical feminists.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 10:28:28 PM No. 458403

>anon thinks men can be radfems
THE ABSOLUTE STATE

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 10:29:52 PM No. 458404

>>458403
>Still not explaining why.
Why can't men consider that patriarchy is the root of every unequality and want to abolish gender roles and the different treatment of the sexes? None of you have explained why.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 10:31:03 PM No. 458405

>>458404
Because there is a power imbalance between men and women and men in women’s spaces will always dictate and control the movements and women are socialised into coddling men so if they don’t have their own female-exclusive space it becomes meaningless. This is literally radfem 101.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 10:31:31 PM No. 458406

>>458404
If you’re Viv Smythe then you think troons can be radfems too lol

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 10:34:45 PM No. 458408

>>458406
I am not

>>458405
Anon, this power imbalance exists in society, a bunch of people coming along and talking does not have a power imbalance if they are all aware of the situation. Also when did I say anything about women only spaces? You talked about them. I said that possesing of a particular philosophy makes a xist of that plisophy, communist, fascist, etc. Feminism is the same. They could never come in women spaces, but still posses the philosophy and work towards it. So why wouldn't they be radical feminists? Even fucking Solanas thought they could be, although of course it was all muddled in her usual nonsense.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 10:37:26 PM No. 458409

>>458408
You do know that radical feminism has evolved since the Solanas day, right? Or do you think we would still believe Viv Smythe was valid.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 10:38:37 PM No. 458410

>>458394
He sounds like a good man, except a little misunderstood and with his own quirks. My boyfriend at first, didn't have the best self-esteem about his appearance. I basically complimented the shit out of him, especially on his more masculine features, and I think that really helped him out. He feels a lot more comfortable than before. Inherently I think a lot of men feel unattractive simply because they are men. If your boyfriend can take compliments, they can go a long way. Also a fun fact, you also see quite a few men with cross-dressing fetishes (not the ones who are into it because it's humiliating) but because it makes them feel attractive to be in stereotypically "sexy" clothing.

>>458395
>>458398
Pretty much though, femdom is usually associated with the porn that's made of it. Honestly that's why I think men and women who don't associate with dom or sub, or have no association with the BDSM scene ironically, make better doms and subs. BDSM scene is pretty cancer because most people there are obsessed with enacting out whatever fantasies they see in porn, and are not interested in actual relationships or dynamics. So yeah, topping from the bottom galore.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 10:39:04 PM No. 458412

>>458409
I am aware, I am however not getting the concept that men can not be radical feminists. I have been trying to understand by talking with anons here, but I have not taken much of an answer that I can get behind.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 10:39:46 PM No. 458413

>>458408
That’s not how power imbalances work since you can’t get rid of the socialisation and do you think having conversations happen outside of society?

Also I’m not going to respond anymore because this is getting OT. We need to go back to making fun of troons.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 10:43:32 PM No. 458417

>>458413
Ok anon, np I see how we might be oting, I am still curious however, I might spend some time googling because I still can't grasp my head around it. Also, I dissagree on the nature of power imbalances, which I think might be the issue with me dissagreeing your issue about women spaces. Although I still don't see how this is relevant…

>>458410
Thanks anon. I think I might need to compliment him more, it might partly be a personal issue as well I guess. He really does not generally dress to impress, like most men.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 10:45:15 PM No. 458418

If you suspect someone is on the verge of trooning out, how would you stop them? I have a niece and I think her spending so much time on tumblr is going to get her to identify as non-binary.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 10:47:02 PM No. 458419

>>458418
Non binary as in between genders or as in between sexes?

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 10:57:44 PM No. 458423

>>458419
? You don’t know what enbies are

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 11:01:45 PM No. 458427

>>458423
I do, I asked what did she mean. Because if it's just a gender thing, all you have to do is jsut make sure the girl understands that gender is not an actual thing. Your behaviour is your own and is not owned by any sex. If she really thinks of herself as more male then she needs therapy and psychyatric help from a doctor who does not endorse troons.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 11:02:01 PM No. 458428

>>458419
Between the genders, anon. If they were between the sexes then they would be intersex which is a genuine chromosomal condition and many intersex activists don’t like getting lumped in with trannies.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 11:03:55 PM No. 458429

>>458427
Many enbies believe gender is fake and real at the same time so it’s difficult to explain to them. They believe gender is a feeling and there are an infinite number of genders (which technically isn’t wrong since it is a social construct).

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 11:04:48 PM No. 458430

>>458428
No anon, I meant if she sees her female body and has issues, body dysphoria. If it's a gender thing just explain to her that gender is a made up nonsense and she will be safe.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 11:05:10 PM No. 458431

>>458418

Even Zoe Quinn says she is genderfluid or non binary, despite presenting and always dressing all female(like a 12 yr old girl) and dating dudes, its meaningless buzzwords, its just thrown out there for clout points because is not cool to come out and say you are just heterosexual "cis" woman anymore.

If this was 2006 your niece would identify as emo.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 11:05:45 PM No. 458432

>>458429
>gender is fake and real at the same time
well that sounds confusing.

>They believe gender is a feeling
I feel so old when I read stuff like this.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 11:09:39 PM No. 458433

>>458418
I really think Tumblr has become a huge health hazard to teenagers. So many developmental issues can be traced back to there. The site was absolutely filled to the brim with pedos and porn blogs too.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 11:21:49 PM No. 458435

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Always have to laugh at this one. Tell me again who appropriated feminism?

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 11:24:02 PM No. 458436

>>458418
The first warning sign is having hair dyed in an unnatural color. Dangerhair is common with enbies, particularly female enbies.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 11:46:47 PM No. 458444

If I, as a lesbian "of color", were to say that I'm not attracted to white women, no reasoning given whatsoever, I'd probably be applauded.

If I were to say I'm not attracted to TiMs, I would have thinkpieces thrown at me, and endless harassment to explain my reasoning so people can "make sure" I'm not a "terf".

What would happen if I say I'm not attracted to white TiMs? Since the far majority of trans-identified men of color are HSTS and so I would have even less likelihood of being harassed by one… can I deny AGP TiMs on their whiteness without harassment?

Purely a thought exercise, since I'm not obviously east Asian, and white TiMs only pursue white and east asian girls due to their fetishisms.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 11:51:33 PM No. 458445

>>458418
The only thing you can do is ask how you can feel a certain gender without relying on stereotypes but it’s notoriously difficult with enbies.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 11:58:49 PM No. 458446

>>458398
>it is not inherently problematic
maybe this is better suited to the unpopular opinion thread, but any relationship based on power dynamics is problematic.

Anonymous 09/05/19 (Thu) 11:59:20 PM No. 458447

>>458444
TiMs think WoC have more privilege than them. There were a bunch of hilariously bad tweets they were making about how women of color need to think about their cis privilege because at least they could give birth unlike TiMs.

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 12:07:59 AM No. 458449

>>458446
all relationships are based on power dynamics

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 12:18:37 AM No. 458453

>>458444
I don’t think they would care. They hate all WoC since so many came from the alt-right. They may want an East Asian waifu (they really just mean Japanese) but they still hate how they don’t live up to their racist stereotypes since Japanese women won’t date TiMs.

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 12:32:42 AM No. 458457

>>458453
I’m Japanese-American and I never date white men anymore because yellow fever is so rampant with them. I think if any Asian woman says she is uncomfortable with dating white men because of fetishism then I think that would be an acceptable reason. Those white TiMs can’t identify out of whiteness although I have seen some try like the “Filipina” TiM.

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 12:40:47 AM No. 458459

>>458457
>“Filipina” TiM
Oh god

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 01:21:13 AM No. 458467

>>458383
>>458373
>>458355
The fact is that femdom is still pretty much a fantasy any man a dominatrix is "dominating" wants to be there by his own free will and he is paying for her service and the the man can pretty much waste the woman with his bare hands if he wanted to

The female dom has no real power

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 01:30:32 AM No. 458469

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>>458467

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 01:42:13 AM No. 458471

Dave Chappelle has a new special on Netflix and has a bit on LGBT. It's semi accurate (L and G are weirded out by B and T and also T is strange and also Q seem like pervs) but also from a perspective of a straight dude (defends Kevin Hart) so it's not very nuanced.

Then he makes a joke equating trans with transracialism and joked about trans in sports.

I'm stopping here, not sure if he goes further into trans stuff.

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 01:57:53 AM No. 458473

>>458471
Can someone explain to me how troons can simultaneously believe gender is real and also fake at the same time? Back when I used to hang around troons they would always hold these two opposing viewpoints. It’s cognitive dissonance but they didn’t mind. Confused the fuck out of me though.

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 02:02:59 AM No. 458475

>>458471
Chapelle has been really angry at troons recently because of the sports thing. The sports issue has becoming a peak trans to many.

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 02:07:52 AM No. 458476

>>458473
Meant to respond to >>458429

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 02:15:39 AM No. 458478

>>458475
he made a troon joke in his last special (or maybe a couple before last) that first got him called as transphobic. the sports thing seems to be icing on the cake for most.

>>458473
gender is fake in that men or women don't necessarily need to adhere to them as gender-sex 1 to 1, but gender is real in that people need to "pick a side" regardless.

so men can be women, and women can be men, but both have to fuckin pick a side. most troons I think see this difference, hence cotton ceiling and what contra was recently canceled for. it's non-binaries and genderqueers that are muddying the waters

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 02:19:11 AM No. 458480

>>458478
hence cotton ceiling specifically targeting femme/femme of center lesbians.

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 02:22:28 AM No. 458481

>>458473
Gender is a social construct which does not necessarily mean it is “fake” as money and countries are also social constructs. It just means they are not naturally occurring and must be created by humans. The problem with some troons is that they can recognise gender is a social construct and therefore nothing biological about it but at the same time believe they can “feel like a woman” because they liked cooking as a child.

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 02:29:16 AM No. 458484

>>458481
This is what I don’t get with TiMs. They say you don’t have to like pink because gender isn’t real but say you can still feel like a woman because of gender roles.

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 03:18:57 AM No. 458503

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>>458473
The thing you need to realize here is that there is no coherency within trans ideology. We use that term to apply to all nonsense stuff TRAs spout but the narrative changes depending on the individual or which belief is convenient at the time. You'll have people like pic related who think that the words woman and man are based on gender identity, not a descriptor for biological sex, and that identifying with masculinity or femininity is what determines gender identity (but somehow this doesn't enforce sexist stereotypes because they say so.) Then you'll have the complete flat earth-tier nutters who claim that sex doesn't exist AT ALL and their penises are actually female.
Simply there is no logic within the trans movement.

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 03:30:04 AM No. 458505

>>458471

Didn’t he have an encounter with a tranny prostitute once? He’s doesn’t even look straight to me lol

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 03:46:56 AM No. 458511

Why are so many truscum female?

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 03:57:52 AM No. 458513

>>458511
Do you mean why is it more women who think that you should be diagnosed with gender dysphoria etc in order to be "legitimately" transgender? I dont know why, I havent noticed that I guess. I would guess maybe because they feel safer with men who make more of an effort to look female being in their spaces rather than any man who just identifies as a woman. Maybe.

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 04:03:15 AM No. 458514

I think you guys are being a little harsh on enbis, i think we should try to understand them better since most are women and teenagers/young, it's obvious why they do the things they do.

With female enbis it's a matter of "being anything else than women", they want people to see them like they see themselves: as more than their sex, just a human soul (like it's supposed to be) when they say theyre non binary people can't use stereotypes on them anymore, nobody can't assume shit and expectations don't matter.
They want to be seen as femenine, masc or neither and "just an human" but not "female" or "woman" cause they want to be appreciated by who they are but know damn well that "word" (woman) makes people assume of force shit on them, they will be reduced to "woman" and "woman" doesn't register as human for most people, they realized this but most are very young and probably confused by TRAs propaganda, some of them just gave up on trying to make people take them seriously as gnc women so their solution is to "hack" the system with its own rules: since people think anything other than a femenine woman is literal degeneration i'm making my own gender: a nongender, it's a gender too but it doesn't have rules, do whatever you want now! it's a wonky attempt to evade gender roles but i get were they are coming from honestly, its silly to call them the new emos when we know this is deeper than that. I saw lots of autistic women calling themselves "enbis" for these reasons too as they're more prone to having these issues, some realized they just were unique women some not, but unlike classic trannies there's a chance of making them see the light.

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 04:11:17 AM No. 458515

>>458511
I thought it was because TiFs wanted acceptance from men so they had to present themselves in a more “logical” manner meanwhile TiMs can just stomp over women and force women to accept them. Truscum generally don’t believe in AFAB privilege because they feel like they experienced sexism based on their female bodies (duh) so that puts them at odds with the broader TRM.

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 04:53:07 AM No. 458521

>>458514
I guess I feel some sympathy for TiFs but some of them have serious internalized misogyny which they externalize onto other girls and they guilt them into becoming troons too

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 05:05:37 AM No. 458523

>>458521
I used to hang out with female enbies and they all bully the fuck out of each other. If they aren’t arguing about tranny shit then it’s about shipping.

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 05:37:42 AM No. 458526

>>458469

Sage but omfg an oblivion meme on this thread. I love you

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 05:58:42 AM No. 458534

>>458141
>enbies ran contra off of twitter
This binary trannies vs enby shit is hilarious

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 06:13:48 AM No. 458538

You can be straight and still be an HBSer since HBS just means “brain in the wrong body”. The Benjamin Scale is what requires you to be gay - HSTS were mostly transitioning to escape homophobia hence its massive presence in conservative, impoverished and religious areas. This differs from AGP who are straight men usually middle to upper-class from liberal areas doing it as a fetish. AGP also generally transition at a later age, many of them already have wives + kids before transition. HBSers are what is known as truscum these days and people were shitting on Hontra for having “truscum beliefs” which I guess is just questioning the validity of enbies.

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 06:14:45 AM No. 458539

>>458538
Was supposed to be a response to >>458297

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 06:17:57 AM No. 458541

>>458534
It will be interesting to see how this division in the trans community pans out. I don’t get how non-binaries got accepted in the first place by transsexuals.

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 06:22:00 AM No. 458545

>>458538
Old school transsexuals also generally acknowledge AGP is a real thing since you either had that or were HSTS. I feel like the HBSer stuff is just a way to get people to accept them. Although it is offensive and doesn’t make sense when examined…it’s still more acceptable than just flat-out saying you have AGP.

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 06:31:45 AM No. 458546

>>458541
Maybe most enbies are libfems who wanted to be a part of the troon community to get oppression points. The TiMs couldn’t really say no because they wanted libfems to support them and then the troons would eventually work their way into dictating mainstream feminism.

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 06:35:49 AM No. 458550

>>458545
Blanchard on Twitter is always surrounded by a group of self-professed AGP who are from an older generation. Anne Lawrence the troon is a big Blanchard fan and he wrote a book describing AGP fantasies. I haven’t read it yet because I will probably be disgusted by the maleness but I hear it is informative.

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 06:39:28 AM No. 458551

>>458534
wtf i love enbies now

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 07:48:36 AM No. 458564

>>458467
Please stop posting your derangement everywhere. no shit he is there of his own free, if he wasn't we would have a crime for fuck's sake.

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 08:12:15 AM No. 458572

>>458550
Those troons have no shame but I can sorta of admire their honesty. More troons should admit to the tranny shit being a fetish instead of trying to make it true identity and encroach on women's rights.

>>458564
Stop shitting up the thread with off-topic kink shit and sage next time.

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 08:16:07 AM No. 458573

>>458570
>>458572
I was answering to someone else when posting the original post that triggered you. She was saying that the abuse of women in porn is reprehensible, but that of men is hot. That was NOT kink shit, so you might want to check your eyes or brain next time.

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 08:17:31 AM No. 458574

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>Libertarian feminist "the war against men" Christina Sommers chimes in on the Contra drama

>>458573
Stay on topic, anon.

Also fucking sage your shit.

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 08:20:10 AM No. 458575

>>458574
Anon, the point is gender critical. How genders work in the bedroom and their power dynamics is pretty damn related. We are not posting porn or obscenities, we are discussing the issues that arise in these situations and the expectations of gender.

Also, about your image, isn't she right? Along with Contra? And yes I know he is gross, I mean about this particular thing.

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 08:21:42 AM No. 458578

>>458574
Of course MRAs would agree with each other.

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 08:24:21 AM No. 458580

>>458575
GC is for troon discussion.

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 08:26:21 AM No. 458581

>>458580
You are right of course anon, I am just saying that we are not always perfectly on topic. I misspoke earlier, it was not on point, but it was relevant. My point is we did not go there on purpose to derail, the conversation just flowed there. Anyway, that conversation had stopped…

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 08:27:54 AM No. 458582

>>458577
Sommers supports troons because they reinforce gender essentialism. She believes that men are from Mars and women are from Venus.

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 08:29:23 AM No. 458583

>>458582
She believes in gender as a biological thing? I thought she was a feminist.

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 08:29:59 AM No. 458584

>>458583
There are many different kinds of feminism, anon.

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 08:30:46 AM No. 458585

>>458584
Yeah, but isn't the whole point of feminism to get rid of gender roles? What kind of feminism would support gender as a biological concept?

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 08:31:38 AM No. 458586

>>458574
Sommers's response is so typical because she has a lot of conservative viewpoints which include gender essentialism just like the shit TRAs believe in. Also she believes men are oppressed just as much as women somehow lol.

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 08:36:24 AM No. 458587

>>458574
>a lovely, girly trans woman
Lmao, god.

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 08:37:37 AM No. 458588

>>458585
A lot of them do if you actually explored the different branches of feminism.

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 08:39:33 AM No. 458589

>>458588
I am not an expert on feminism anon, I just always thought that they all did. I guess some sort of traditional feminists or sth might want to keep gender roles.

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 08:40:39 AM No. 458591

All of tranny twitter is a mess because of the Hontra wank. I hoped Nick would deactivate his YouTube too.

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 08:43:40 AM No. 458592

>>458591
The current discourse is about whether Hontra deleted his twitter because he was overwhelmed with harassment or if it was a manipulation tactic to guilt his followers and avoid responding to criticism. These people just LOVE to blow up every little thing and tinhat.

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 08:49:58 AM No. 458593

>>458592
Samefagging but one troon I saw actually brought up a good point wondering why they all cancelled Hontra when he tweeted "mean" things about enbyshits and not when he was still making anti-feminist and racist material. Many of those videos were still on his YouTube even when he began to cross-dress and transition but people didn't seem to care.

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 08:56:29 AM No. 458594

>>458591
Hontra was going to get run-off social media sooner or later. A lot of trannies already hated him for questioning non-binary people.

It's absolutely impossible to please troons. You will never be right or good enough for them. They will cancel you as soon as you "slip up" too much.

I used to be involved in those communities and I can tell you they are constantly paranoid and policing themselves.

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 09:13:11 AM No. 458597

>>458591
can someone spoonfeed me on why hontra is cancelled without complex tranny lingo? i'm esl.

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 09:14:46 AM No. 458598

>>458597
Said he didn't like they/them pronouns because he wanted to recognised as a woman which enraged non-binary people. It's a small thing but it became a big issue. This is always the case with trannies, kek.

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 09:26:56 AM No. 458600

>>458503
>gender identity is an integral part of being human
must be why there are so many enbies, this shit is ridic

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 09:44:26 AM No. 458601

>>458574
Sommers is a fucking hack lmao.

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 10:10:54 AM No. 458602

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Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 10:16:55 AM No. 458603

>>458602

Commies and nazis are the same thing at the end lol, and nazis are anti-capitalism and statists too just as tankie edgelords.

These people are retarded, all they care is to latch on to an identity, that's why they troon , that's why they attach to political labels and always go from one extreme to another, make up pronouns and constantly clown out on every venue they have.

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 10:19:22 AM No. 458605

>>458603
>all they care is to latch on to an identity
Why can't it ever just be "productive member of society"?

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 10:25:54 AM No. 458607

>>458605

thats like…hard work dude, and you need to like , earn merits and pay dues?? its better to watch anime, pretend to be an intellectual on twitter and alienate the normies with snowflake pronouns, knee socks and 20$ pink wigs.

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 10:28:32 AM No. 458608

>>458602
>is nazi
>troons out
>becomes commie
Every time

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 10:34:26 AM No. 458612

>>458602
>trans symbol
Lol of course.

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 10:37:55 AM No. 458613

>>458602
>Contra turning anyone against capitalism
His entire persona is built on what capitalism says women are, from fashion to makeup to cosmetic surgery. He’s the anthropomorphic personification of capitalism.

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 10:51:20 AM No. 458616

>>458613
This. Actual commies would have gulag'd them for their bourgeoisie shit. Cosmetic surgery is as capitalist as you can get.

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 10:56:23 AM No. 458617

>>458613
>"against capitalism"
>e-begging to his 10.000 donators on patreon for his medieval dresses and facial feminization surgery

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 10:59:27 AM No. 458619

>>458602
Gee, I wonder how many of Nick's fans are literal neo-Nazis.

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 11:01:51 AM No. 458620

>>458619
Excuse me sweaty…reminder that TERFs are the fascists

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 11:04:29 AM No. 458622

>>458619
A lot of troons are Nazis or alt-right just like a lot of furries. I don't get it either but you can search up "nazi furry" for some interesting results.

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 11:06:45 AM No. 458623

File: 1567768005245.jpg (217.96 KB, 1254x649, chapo.jpg)

>>458617
>neets becoming communists, shitposting as a career and living from donations on a first world capitalist country with all the commodities included.

Imagine that

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 11:10:52 AM No. 458625

>>458612
If you are a Nazi or have Nazi beliefs how could you even consider becoming trans?

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 11:16:53 AM No. 458627

>>458625
Men are stupid as fuck

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 11:30:15 AM No. 458630

This Hontra thing makes me laugh because trannies truly do fight over the least important things. I hope outside observers will see how much of a cult it is and how nothing makes sense. I hope they keep fighting and destroying their movement.

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 12:03:30 PM No. 458635

>>458625
Aut-righters don't actually give a shit about nazi ideals. They're just losers who want an excuse to be hateful and feel apart of an edgy seeming community. Which is why they're mostly NEETs who don't contribute anything to society, sexually degenerate freaks or not even fully white. So a huge overlap with tranny and commie psychology.

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 12:37:47 PM No. 458642

>>458635
They don't give a sit about commie ideals either. They just want a place to "belong" tbh.

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 12:39:20 PM No. 458643

>>458642
All of this happened after nu-atheism lost its steam

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 12:56:09 PM No. 458648

>>458625
Men don't have any personalities or hobbies outside of pretending to understand politics, masturbating, and playing video games

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 02:06:01 PM No. 458658

>>457989
I hope this man dies.
>>458009
They're already pornsick fetishists, it's not a stretch for them to troon out.
>>458625
They're homophobic racist misogynists, and troons are usually straight white men so of course they support them. Also a lot of them have intense porn addictions from being incels.

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 02:42:12 PM No. 458667

>>458602
kek! amazing

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 03:32:49 PM No. 458689

>>458602
Far-left and far-right believe the same shit, the discourse is just differently worded.

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 04:23:46 PM No. 458711

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>match

Lol on what Grindr?

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 04:26:55 PM No. 458715

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>>458711
Samefagging for more of this looney-troo

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 04:27:51 PM No. 458716

File: 1567787270867.jpeg (1.34 MB, 1242x1734, F0A174BE-3ECD-49F5-8197-F89C91…)

>>458711
Last one I swear

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 04:35:32 PM No. 458720

>>458716

All the gym bros and burly gay dudes in that establishment must be having a hoot.

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 04:39:44 PM No. 458722

>>458716
/fit/ in one picture.

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 04:54:00 PM No. 458727

>>458716
Looks like troon Justin Bieber

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 05:01:06 PM No. 458731

>>458716
Looks like an indie boy from the early 2000s wearing his sisters clothes as a bet.

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 06:03:58 PM No. 458780

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>>458716
tbh I'm glad for troonism in one respect. now all the semicute fem Bieber boys we might be interested in and might waste our lives on are making it very clear theyre disgusting degenerates. but tbh this guy could've been attractive. what a waste.

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 06:07:30 PM No. 458783

>>458716
emo and gay boys were doing a good job of painting their nails and still being dudes in the 2000s-early 2010s, when did they start trooning out?

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 06:35:01 PM No. 458797

>>458783
when being a troon and sjw become a subculture of our era.

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 06:37:25 PM No. 458799

>>458783
I personally blame Tumblr

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 07:19:26 PM No. 458813

>>458780
It's so tragic even good looking men will look like unfortunate women

Anonymous 09/06/19 (Fri) 07:23:21 PM No. 458816

>>458813
He doesn't look like an unfortunate woman tho, only like a flamboyant man.

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 12:27:02 AM No. 458942

File: 1567816022805.png (84.82 KB, 621x593, venn diagram.png)

I made a thing.

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 01:45:26 AM No. 458977

>>458972
i like jensen but some of his personal beliefs (that he also shares with lierre keith) are really embarrassing and annoying. most of his commentary is true, but certain things…

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 03:17:29 AM No. 458998

Whatever happened to that Chinese running team? Did those turn out to be biological males, or roided up females? I saw some articles crying about how TERFs are harassing these 100% cis women for not being beautiful enough or some crap like that.

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 03:36:15 AM No. 459005

>>458998
Three of them are dudes anon. I think the Chinese are laughing at us!

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 03:39:30 AM No. 459007

https://metro.co.uk/2019/09/03/trans-teenager-triumphs-in-bodybuilding-contest-after-beating-eating-disorder-10653158/?ito=social&fbclid=IwAR2a0X3ohCiIcKnlRr92IR5cxPU9Ox8B25BCk6sx64aoJ0_57SZJIGXdYyw

TL;DR: TIF teen with extreme body image disorders gets celebrated for having exactly that. Also can't extreme bodybuilding be very dangerous like an ED (not to mention being pumped up with hormones/experimental surgery)?

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 03:59:25 AM No. 459013

>>459005
I read that chinese netizens were mad about it too. I don't think most people would want trannies representing their country in women's sports, even somewhere as medal hungry as China.

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 04:53:52 AM No. 459022

>>458226

Agree he is closeted.

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 05:10:15 AM No. 459027

>>458942
What would be the TiF equivalent of this?

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 05:13:02 AM No. 459028

>>458942
Kek, every AGP I know sort of fits into that. One I talked to a week ago is into medieval European fantasy RPGs (he loves elf women and witches the most ofc) and is a part of the BDSM community.

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 05:19:20 AM No. 459031

>>459027
>internalized misogyny
>obsession with shipping
>blue hair

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 06:47:49 AM No. 459046

>>459031
>has a pet rat named after a fictional character
>loves fall out boy and other associated acts

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 07:03:02 AM No. 459048

>>459031
>Only identifies with male fictional characters
>Obsessed with gay relationships and twinks
>Lesbiphobia
>likely to be a cosplayer or makeup artist

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 08:31:39 AM No. 459062

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>>458503
>admits gender is gender roles
>still supports gender identity
>therefore believes woman should mean 'feminine person' and not 'adult human female'
>supports robbing an opppressed group of the language they use to describe themselves and their struggles, just so a group composed mostly of AGPs can be allowed into women's washrooms or colleges or some shit because God Forbid we literally murder them by saying 'this is a women-only space. You're a man so you're not allowed in'.

Imagine having as much internalized misogyny as she does.

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 08:33:37 AM No. 459063

>>459031
>obsessed with using “fag”, “twink”, “mlm”, “achillean” and other terms about gay men to describe themselves
>talk really edgy and threatening in an attempt to emulate male behavior

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 08:50:15 AM No. 459065

>>459031
>borderline personality disorder
>ass kisses TiMs even though TiMs treat them like shit

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 08:57:50 AM No. 459066

>>458141
Just read that Contra's doxx are being spread around in twitter DMs now, zirs mad.

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 09:09:21 AM No. 459068

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Wow.

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 09:31:05 AM No. 459076

>>459027
everything the same except the extremist communities are queer theory and/or sjwism, and the pornsickness swapped with fujoism/BL, and under social media swap 4ch for tumblr

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 10:13:08 AM No. 459088

>>459066
God, troons are so over dramatic.

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 12:34:52 PM No. 459104

>>459068
The fucking audacity of those people. Everything has to be about them!

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 01:49:19 PM No. 459114

>>459068
>males and feminine women who don’t identify as women are to be included in discussions about femicide!

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 02:55:02 PM No. 459132

>>459068
Non binary logic "I don't identify as female, except for when I want inclusion in murder statistics"

And what about early stage transmen?

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 03:14:13 PM No. 459137

>>459132
Every 3 hours a woman is murdered in South Africa, every 26 seconds a woman is raped in South Africa. Gay people face very high levels of violence, particularly gay women with an average of 10 lesbians per week experiencing corrective rape in South Africa. Most trans men in South Africa are lesbians who transition because of homophobia (HSTS).

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 03:19:27 PM No. 459141

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Imagine being so delusional and thinking you've become one of your yaoi fantasies

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 03:36:40 PM No. 459155

>>459141
I can sort of understand the lesbians mutilating themselves since so many come from conservative upbringings or find it safer to just go around as a man than as a butch lesbian but so many straight women only do it because they are obsessed with gay men and want to fuck them. Weird as fuck. This is taking fag hags to the next level.

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 03:39:21 PM No. 459159

>>459141
She was a pretty cute looking girl. Now she looks like the ungodly lovechild of Jeff Goldblum and Tyler Oakley, and in spite of that it's still obvious she's female.

Also, we place TIFs in one of two categories- self-hating lesbian and fujoshi fakeboi. This post would obviously be the latter.

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 03:45:34 PM No. 459163

>>459155
A lot of lesbians that take testosterone for a while find their sexuality shifting to include men..then you come of the T and return to lesbian, it's freaky

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 03:47:37 PM No. 459167

>>459155
>since so many come from conservative upbringings

Where do some anons get the idea that conservative families prefer troons?

i come from a conservative family and troonery is just about the grossed thing on the scale, wtf?? If you are gay you just make and akward situation into a nuclear blast that wrecks the family, it only makes it worse.

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 03:52:40 PM No. 459177

>>459141
sam hyde lookin ass lmao

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 03:56:31 PM No. 459181

>>459167
nta but sometimes being taught strict gender roles in a conservative family can make you subconsciously view yourself as the opposite sex just cos you're butch, then it seeps into the more conscious part of your brain like it's some eureka moment..

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 04:05:35 PM No. 459194

>>459181

The leftist mental gymnastics involved in coping out and throwing the hot potato to the other side to make it the rights fault are mind boggling and really amusing.

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 04:08:31 PM No. 459197

>>459163
Is it really sexual attraction or weird competitive obsession. Masculinizing hormones in men make them focus on each other more. Testosterone levels rise in men when they hang around each other a lot.

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 04:11:10 PM No. 459199

>>459167
It obviously depends on the family, but some conservative families would prefer a straight gender-conforming trans ‘daughter’/‘son’ to a gnc gay son or daughter. See also Iran, where gay men are coercively transed to become ‘straight women’ (and then put on the women’s football team for good measure).

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 04:16:31 PM No. 459206

>>459065
>>459063
>>459062
>>459048
>>459046
>>459031

Please refrain from double/multi-posting, especially in such a fast moving thread.

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 04:24:42 PM No. 459212

>>459199

Sorry, no, this is the most absurd and twisted take i've ever read. No conservative western parent ever would prefer their sons to take hormones and wear dresses in public under any circunstances. Like 99.9% of troons in those circles completely nuke the family unit and either become stranded or the black sheep no one wants to deal with.

Only really degenerate woke people actually go ahead and encourage this, the most a conservative parent would to is give up and sadly watch on the sidelines with a broken fucking heart while their neet kids butcher and kill themselves. No straw man will ever make the oposite true.

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 04:31:47 PM No. 459214

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>>459212

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 04:36:29 PM No. 459215

>>459212
most conservatives would rather believe their son is actually ~~a woman in a man's body~~ and watch them mutilate their body than accept an effeminate gay son.

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 04:39:12 PM No. 459217

>>459194
I know a woman who nearly transitioned many years ago in old catholic ireland where 'the left and the right' did not exist so my post wasn't talking about 'left versus right' but you take whatever you want from it

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 04:46:01 PM No. 459220

>>459212
It's not really that black and white, some will prefer a transitioned child if they can pass and be seen as straight eventually

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 04:55:04 PM No. 459227

>>459197
You see the butchest gay women turn into effeminate 'queer men' who then make grindr profiles so it doesn't strike me as competitive.. especially as they are often happy just being the bottom. Chase Ross and a few others have mentioned experiencing it and they aren't exactly masc/competitive types

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 05:03:49 PM No. 459234

>>459215
>most conservatives would rather believe their son is actually ~~a woman in a man's body~~
This is your brain on marxism. Conservatives don't believe in any trans shit. They don't believe in the possibility of being born in the wrong body. The left have managed to force mainstream tolerance of it by throwing their toys out of the pram until they got laws passed. Compliance due to the risk of being fired, or arrested is not showing support, or belief.

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 05:14:34 PM No. 459242

>>459199
There certainly are countries where transition is favoured over a 'forever gay'

Maybe not in America but in some religious countries including some western where conversion therapy was the first answer (that failed) and now it's transition

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 05:20:47 PM No. 459244

>>459215

>I-i-it was the right all along, w-we swear!

woke kids, try harder. This is a bad attempt at bait and switch.

>>459215

Wonder what spicy tumblr gave you this idea. This is something that has no acceptance in conservative values, and has not been lobbied for by the right, even less by religious circles. Not even those kinda progressive christians that accept gays go this far. Hell, even liberal right and libertarians are mad as fuck with government cohercion to force this ideology and tax dollars being used to pay for HRT treatments. It can't get any worse.

You'd have to be very disconnected from reality to no know this already, while, ironically, disliking troons but still supporting the political faction that uses trans activism as a spear head.

>>459217
People troon out from all over the spectrum, but only one kind of family would actively endorse and support trooning with glee. Its no coincidence all troons are commies. Either because their conservative families disowned them so they go the other way as revenge or because they already come from a leftist background and radicalize even more into it so they can ride the clout wave.

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 05:51:38 PM No. 459264

>>459244
"troons, commies, conservative, leftists"

Anon I simply said I had a friend decades ago growing up in Ireland, everyone was very catholic, she was quite butch and hated the expectations of women, she wished she was male cos butch just didn't exist and wasn't tolerated. She had a confused youth and now she's an old happy butch. Calm down with all the modern U.S political buzzwords. This was 60s Ireland, not modern day non-binary land

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 05:59:07 PM No. 459269

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DAE womanhood = lipstick and skirts xd

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 06:18:06 PM No. 459276

>>459234
she's saying conservatives would rather turn their kids straight and mutilated than have them be gay.

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 06:20:36 PM No. 459280

>>459244
Pretending your "daughter" has a "neurological condition where she was born in a mans body" rather than accepting him just being (Jesus please no) gay is definitely a thing in conservative families. In Iran the theocratic state will fucking kill a man for being gay but also pay for his sexual reassignment surgery so he can be "straight" since the Abrahamic religions take gender roles so damn serious. Same fucked up logic that means men can rape in prison and think they're not gay because they're not the ones being anally penetrated, but it's the victim who's gay now for being in the female role. Obviously the modern tranny shit comes from lefty queer theory but religious nutters have no problem picking and choosing from left ideology when it suits their needs.

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 06:26:31 PM No. 459284

>>459269
He was so close to realising gender roles are retarded and the he blew it, what a shame, how many kids have we lost like that.

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 06:30:20 PM No. 459285

>>459280
>Pretending your "daughter" has a "neurological condition where she was born in a mans body" rather than accepting him just being (Jesus please no) gay is definitely a thing in conservative families

Its not, but keep larping however you want, by all means. It's your fan fiction.

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 06:32:05 PM No. 459286

>>459269
While surfing the web I've come across so many 14-15 year olds putting they are "trans" in their tumblr or twitter bios. I can't even imagine what it's like to just be coming into maturity during these times.

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 06:40:15 PM No. 459292

>>459212
Wasn't making gay people transition with surgery and hormone therapy in the West seen as a way to "cure" gay people? That's what happened to Alan Turing iirc, he was jailed for being a gay man in the UK and once he got out had to start taking eustrogen and killed himself once he developed breast tissue.

Only extremes exist in the West from what I've seen, it's either families being 100% behind their LGB relatives transitioning because that would make them straight and gender-conforming, or they hate it because to them it's just homosexuality multiplied by 1000. I'm gonna guess it depends on their religions or how religious they are too?
>this is the most absurd and twisted take i've ever read
Trying to make humans change their sex is beyond absurd in the first place and yet here are.

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 06:41:02 PM No. 459293

>>459234
>>459244
anons, i didn't say conservatives are the only ones to blame for troons. i'm not trying to bait anybody, i'm just looking at the stories of hsts. conservatives are also at fault for being so close minded against effeminate gay men and butch lesbians. conservative parents tend to be more open minded about transitioning than being gay and gender nonconforming.

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 06:47:05 PM No. 459296

>>459285

So you'll read this post and maybe click the link: I am not a Marxist and I hate Marxism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_and_transgender_people

>some denominations including the Church of England, Church of Sweden, Episcopal Church, Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, Presbyterian Church (USA), and United Church of Christ have permitted ordained transgender clergy to serve in congregations and have welcomed transgender members.[3]

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 06:54:10 PM No. 459305

>>459286

20 yrs from now these self inflicted cripples will absolutely destroy all welfare systems in every country dumb enough to play woke advocate. Just wait when all these troon kids turn 30 yr olds cancer patients with fucked up identity issues.

A mental health and suicide pandemic unlike western the world has ever seen never seen is in the making.

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 06:58:27 PM No. 459308

>>459293
don't respond to the bait.

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 07:00:35 PM No. 459309

>>459305
Are there studies that follow cancer/endocrine problems/strokes in older transes who started taking hormones decades ago? Or is it too early to tell and make correlations. I fear this will be the case too, pumping your body up with extreme levels of foreign hormones can't be good, it's crazy how doctors give this stuff out like candy.

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 07:07:44 PM No. 459314

>>459309
likely not, there's never that many studies on any cosmetic intervention, even if it uses medicine. these people are just pushed a product, operated on and then sent on their way and anything else is coincidental. it happens with tons of stuff like that in the US, no one thinks of any longterm issues for anything.

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 07:07:59 PM No. 459315

>>459309
I've seen transmen who choose to keep their womb for years and there is a cancer risk in keeping it so god knows why they choose that?… unless there is doubt somewhere in their mind

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 07:13:16 PM No. 459317

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>>459296

>America
>UK
>sweden
>Canada

The wokest of the woke. Anglos are peak degeneracy. they let perversions sink into everything even in their religion.

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 07:14:24 PM No. 459318

>>458216
I've gotta agree with >>458226 on this one. Either they are all men or they aren't and your boyfriend picking and choosing for convenience. He is most likely a closeted bisexual who likes femininity regardless of the sex. With all the solo and lesbian porn out there, why would he need to watch a hyper feminine male getting off?

>>458276
Believe me anon, sometimes some guys are VERY secretive about it and know how to cover it up and then bam, full blown tranny, I assume you two are young (at least in your early or mid 20s) but what usually happens is it comes out towards the end of the 20s or into their 30s or 40s+

>>458283
This. Being submissive is not a gay thing, some men are just naturally submissive and there's nothing wrong with that but it's the Tranny-porn that is cause for some concern here.

>>458293
Oof… Yeah no, he does not look like a woman at all.

>>458303
> He has never had an issue with his gender, other than with other people's expectations

Bingo, this here. This can be a problem as he gets older and notices how he just doesn't match up to the ideal of what is expected of men, especially the judgment he'll get from other men for not living up. This is a fairly popular cause of what makes a guy troon out.

> I am pretty sure he is not bi, a lot of bi guys have hit on him and he was never interested in the past. What is GAMP, I am unfamiliar with this term?

Has he ever gotten hit on by super effeminate men? Like I men who don't look like typical men? I'm just saying that he could be a Gynephelic Bisexual. Gynephelia is the attraction to femininity regardless of the sex. Trannies at the end of the day are just effeminate males and if this is what your BF likes but doesn't like masculine men, it still means he's bisexual, just with a twist (feminine men).

>>458314
It's not about cutting the dick off though anon, most trannies don't get SRS, it's a very rare few who do (and they end up regretting it a good many of the time).

>>458316
Futa is just art no?

>>458340
Not always, AGP can also just be being so obsessed wit the image of porn's woman image even if the person doesn't want to be that.

>>458350

This. Even though it sucks to feel like you were lead on, you can't have it both ways. I think so long as she can accept his non-masculinity and want to dress more femininely, things can be okay.

Look anon with boyfriend, all we're saying is that if he ever does troon out (which he very well could), just don't be surprised and make a smart choice for your future.

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 07:15:18 PM No. 459320

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>>459317
>sweden
>anglos

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 07:17:59 PM No. 459322

>>459309
Ftms tend to experience cramping pain if they keep their uterus past the five year mark, this is thought to be muscle related but the risk of uterine cancer is increased in them so docs often push for a hysto when the cramping presents itself

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 07:28:12 PM No. 459328

>>459242
Yep, look at the middle east for example. If a man id openly gay, he has the option of either death or to transition.

> Wonder what spicy tumblr gave you this idea. This is something that has no acceptance in conservative values, and has not been lobbied for by the right, even less by religious circles. Not even those kinda progressive christians that accept gays go this far. Hell, even liberal right and libertarians are mad as fuck with government cohercion to force this ideology and tax dollars being used to pay for HRT treatments. It can't get any worse.

You'd have to be very disconnected from reality to no know this already, while, ironically, disliking troons but still supporting the political faction that uses trans activism as a spear head.

You'd be surprised anon. I remember talking with this one guy who was friends with my brother about whether he would be okay with having a Gay effeminate son or a Trans "daughter" (I used to believe in the tranny crap years ago when I talked with him) and he surprising said he would rather have a transwoman daughter because "he would be considered a normal straight woman". This associate was Catholic though I'm not sure if he was conservative or not, I haven't talked to him in years but he did vote for George W. Bush 2004 and Trump 2016.

So believe me anon, some would totally choose a TIM over an effeminate gay son though I think a big part is if they (the TIM) can "pass". If not, it shatters the illusion.

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 07:38:06 PM No. 459332

>>459328
I personally know an example of highly religious parents that accepted their daughter becoming their son, this was years after disowning them for being gay. They are 'straight now' and this looks good in the Christmas photos etc

The same parents never shut up about how gay marriage is awful

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 07:42:50 PM No. 459335

Why do they never seem to care about TIFs being murdered? It's always the stunning and brave TIMs that are seemingly murdered in droves, way more than cis women

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 08:21:25 PM No. 459351

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>>458942
Since people asked, I made a TIF version.
There really isn't a huge difference aside from the specifics.

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 08:30:32 PM No. 459354

>>459351
this almost ticks off all tifs, do lesbians fit in the obsession with escapism box? ones that arent into yaoi of course (still dont really get why a lesbian would ever be into yaoi, but supposedly common or at least commonly mentioned in these threads)

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 08:33:09 PM No. 459355

Hello guys! I am new to posting but I would like to hear your stories.

Have you guys ever had experience with special snowflakes (both troons and handmaidens) / troons in your friend circle or community, fandom? And what are your red flags about it?

I would like to get some advice rn. My friend is a 14-15 years old who is into make up and girly things and he seriously considers on becoming a mtf (pills and srs). But thing is, he is just a feminine boy and he oftenly gets anxious over things because he lives in very homophobic country (he likes boys, not sure about girls). Right now he is visiting a therapist and oftenly gets doubts about this whole transstuff but his transfriends keep pushing him and I would love to explain him things gently somehow. Any good resources? I dunno

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 09:01:18 PM No. 459361

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>>459355
>Any good resources? I dunno

Redpill him the hell away from reddit. Trans subs are gaslighters and are full of pedophiles and fetishistic chasers. They will always tell him trooning will solve all his problems and that he is an egg and the "she" is gorgeous. For the rest of the world he would look like a mutant and a mental case, an entitled parasyte that doesn't belong neither with women nor men and can only hang around wack jobs and bpds on social media while people take captions of his statuses for cringe compilations.

Trans discords also have a history of groomings kids into trooning and suicide. This is not just about some angry ladies making fun of dudes that don't pass, is a serious issue that he is getting into that will destroy his self identity, his health, his career prospects, his love life, pretty much everything that you can think off only because he wants to larp as a cat girl for a few years while he is in school before reality hits him and he ends up hanged in some basement streaming it to pedos online ,stranded from his family and friends.

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 09:04:52 PM No. 459363

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>>459163
>>459197

OK, this confuses me too. I was friends with a girl who identified as a lesbian before she transitioned and started taking hormones. Now she identifies as bisexual but says she's mostly attracted to (cis) men.

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 09:14:39 PM No. 459364

Question:

I always hear it said that tranny porn is the most popular.

So who is watching it? They claim it’s straight men. Are they really straight though? I don’t see how it can be so popular. What do you consider guys who watch it as?

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 09:42:29 PM No. 459371

>>459322
Didn’t Buck Angel end up with some crazy fused uterus

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 09:46:14 PM No. 459373

>>459364
Said by who… None of the porn statistics I've seen support this.

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 09:47:35 PM No. 459374

>>459364
GAMPs watch tranny porn and studies usually class them into two types: bi men who truly like trannies or straight men with AGP.

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 10:03:23 PM No. 459378

>>459163
TiFs will often say their libido goes berserk when they are on T so I guess it’s like males in how they are willing to fuck anything.

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 10:03:23 PM No. 459379

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>>459364

But that ain't true though. I even remember seeing some webcam statistics thingy and trannies rank the lowest earners across cam sites. Even regular dudes make more money caming than TiMs,. Troons probably think that becoming anime girls they will live on easy mode and become rich camwhoring, but they'll just end up on the street sucking dick for pennies.

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 10:41:22 PM No. 459385

>>459363
One of the most popular theories behind the causes of bisexuality is masculinization in women and hyper-masculinization in men. Some women who claimed to be lesbians who went on testosterone reported a massively increased sex drive to the point where they thought about sex all the time and experiencing sexual attraction towards men or androphilia for the first time. Their libidos and attraction to men decreased when testosterone intake was reduced and those who stopped taking male hormones completely said they went back to their normal selves where they no longer had out-of-control sex drives and attraction to men.

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 10:46:49 PM No. 459387

>>459385
Samefagging but this is also a thing >>459197 so I guess it would really fuck up a female body to go on such high and unhealthy levels of testosterone.

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 11:09:58 PM No. 459393

>>459332
Exactly, these parents who do that are fucking delusional and the TIM/TIF who play into this to get family approval are just sad and at the most, dangerous if they actually take the meds or worse.

I can't remember this one video I saw on YouTube but it was one of those sit-down talk videos with some Black Pastor and this troon with blonde hair (very masculine face). I remember watching and rolling my eyes when the troon was saying why he thought he was a woman but a big talking point was religion (the black guy was a pastor) and the troon came from a Jewish family and he said that his father never accepted him as a effeminate boy but when he "discovered he was actually trans", his parents came around to accept him. It was gross.

>>459335
I'm gonna sound ignorant because I never really looked into the murders of TIFs but are there just as many murders they have compared to TIMs who get killed by their Johns?

>>459351
Nice anon, yeah I've seen all of these instances in TIFs (some more than others).

>>459355
Definitely take >>459361 advice. Redpill him and make sure he stays away from Reddit and 4Chan (especially the LGBT section that is overrun with Trans). Drill into him the consequences of what can happen if he takes HRT medicine, how it'll have negative health consequences in the long run for prolonged use or even the physical stuff like hormone tits or the weight gain that is not gonna look great. The picture that the anon posted is a good example of what can happen…

>>459364
I have a feeling it's mostly closeted in denial Gay or Bi Man. The simple fact of the matter is that a "Straight" man is not interest in penises other than his own. He likes the opposite sex and there is a plethora upon plethora of straight, Lesbian, and solo woman porn he could be watching to get off. To start going down that rabbit hole of dick craving would imply he is a bisexual but just didn't realize it nor wanted to admit it. If he's watching because he wants to be this pornographic figure, he's most likely just a straight AGP (he'd call himself a Lesbian - kek - ) though if he engages in intercourse with other Troons, he's gay (or bi).

>>459379
Oh wow, I had a feeling they were blowing the trans statistics out of proportion. And it explains why TIFs usually become hookers IRL and get themselves into dangerous situations because of the nature of that world that affects all sex workers regardless.

Anonymous 09/07/19 (Sat) 11:17:48 PM No. 459396

>>459393
Autogynephilia can cause you to experience what is known as pseudo-bisexuality in straight men where the AGP is not sexually attracted towards men like gay or bi men are, he is attracted to the idea of men fucking him in his female body because he wants to know what it feels like to have vaginal intercourse.

Anonymous 09/08/19 (Sun) 12:24:26 AM No. 459404

>>459364
Who told you that? Lesbian porn is most popular among women and among straight/bi men, MILF and teen consistently ranks as most popular. Tranny porn never even makes the top ten.

Anonymous 09/08/19 (Sun) 12:30:27 AM No. 459406

Call me a tin hatter but sometimes I feel like the trans rights movement is a giant experiment funded by billionaire transhumanists to modify human behavior and bodies and trans people are their guinea pigs. They want to see how endocrinology affects human behavior and if surgical modifications could advance to the point where we truly could change sex and allow children to born with artificial wombs, etc.

Anonymous 09/08/19 (Sun) 12:31:12 AM No. 459407

>>459404
>joi
What is that?

Anonymous 09/08/19 (Sun) 12:35:32 AM No. 459411

>>459406
Should have said *manipulate the endocrine system in drastic ways to change human behavior
We already know hormones affect human behavior but it has never been possible to perform massive experiments on people because it was illegal. Until trans people came along to serve as guinea pigs.

Anonymous 09/08/19 (Sun) 01:50:31 AM No. 459428

>>459407
"Jerk Off Instruction"
It's someone telling you how to use your own hand.

Anonymous 09/08/19 (Sun) 02:01:31 AM No. 459430

>>459354
One lesbian told me it was because they hated how women were portrayed in those romances so removing the women made things less disturbing for her. I am straight and I can get where she is coming from, the way women are treated in a lot of romance is super shitty. The women are so one-dimensional and are kinda just passive dolls for males. Some women like the idea of being ravaged and having evil boyfriends in fiction though.

Anonymous 09/08/19 (Sun) 02:08:36 AM No. 459433

>>459430
Het romance is full of that and a lot of "lesbian" stuff is made for men by men which is even more disgusting. I guess this explains the intense interest so many women have for yaoi shit because it is "safer" while the stuff that includes women is unrelatable and uncomfortable. It might also have to do with internalized misogyny where they just view women as inferior and don't want to read about them since so many girls have a desire to become boys if exposed to too much yaoi. I'm not quite sure.

Anonymous 09/08/19 (Sun) 02:11:24 AM No. 459435

>>459432
Did the testosterone make her crazy and view all women as walking fuckholes and made her crave cock as well?

Anonymous 09/08/19 (Sun) 02:39:24 AM No. 459443

>>459363
In-utero exposure to masculinizing hormones seems to predispose humans toward bisexuality. Of course this is an innate and stable sexual orientation which is very different from loading yourself on horse piss hormones after you're born which make your libido more rabid than a piranha on crack and could give you cancer.

Anonymous 09/08/19 (Sun) 02:41:06 AM No. 459444

>>459363
Straight TiFs say they start feeling attraction to women after going on T as well.

Anonymous 09/08/19 (Sun) 03:01:00 AM No. 459448

>>459443
>horse piss
Estrogen comes from horse piss. I believe testosterone is usually made from soybeans.

Anonymous 09/08/19 (Sun) 04:06:59 AM No. 459461

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Anonymous 09/08/19 (Sun) 04:11:59 AM No. 459465

>>459461
These two straight men LARPing as lesbians reminds me of the story about two guys who met online while pretending to be girls. The two dated online and had lesbian sex roleplay for months and they only realized they were both dudes after meeting up in real life.

Anonymous 09/08/19 (Sun) 04:46:24 AM No. 459470

Scrolling through the Magdalen Berns tag on tumblr really goes to show the depravity of troons and troon supporters. Myself and every “terf” I know may hate troons but none wish them dead (Yaniv types excluded.)
It really burns my ass that they act so “uwu sensitive” yet they have no problem celebrating the death of a woman like she was fucking Hitler when she never did any harm.

Anonymous 09/08/19 (Sun) 07:41:55 AM No. 459506

>"Going on testosterone/estrogen made me attracted to a sex I've never been attracted to!!"
i think this is such bullshit. there are multiple troons who say this. hontra, for example. you've never been into men but you suddenly became a straight woman once you started hormones?? lmao. it just sounds really homophobic and sexist to me.

Anonymous 09/08/19 (Sun) 08:28:56 AM No. 459510

>>459506
It sounds vaugly plausible from how hormone levels are associated with sexual and gendered behavior but tbh it's probably just that they were always closet bi and now they've come out as a troon admitting to others/themselves they're bi is relatively no big deal.

Anonymous 09/08/19 (Sun) 08:50:52 AM No. 459511

>>459506
It's nearly always people going from being attracted to one sex to then being bisexual, don't know how exactly that's both homophobic and sexist, seems like a strange take on it?

Anonymous 09/08/19 (Sun) 08:54:28 AM No. 459513

>>459511
They act like fucking men validates their ~~womanhood~~~and being attracted to men is an inherent part of being a woman. These closeted bi TIMs can't accept their bisexuality before transitioning, they can only accept their attraction to men after they believe that they are a woman.

Anonymous 09/08/19 (Sun) 09:17:46 AM No. 459517

>>459513
Lesbians always seem to become bisexual transmen after taking hormones, it's hardly 'homophobia and sexism' it's a surge of new hormones affecting them

Anonymous 09/08/19 (Sun) 09:22:05 AM No. 459519

>>459510
Alot of TIF will admit that were bicurious the whole time but only felt safe sleeping with men as a -man-. They don't feel objectified in the same way so can finally explore that curiosity. That and having a much higher sex drive

Anonymous 09/08/19 (Sun) 09:31:55 AM No. 459520

>>459517
They always had it in them then

Anonymous 09/08/19 (Sun) 11:12:47 AM No. 459533

>>459506
It could just be women not admitting to their bisexuality but with testosterone in both gay and straight TiFs it can sorta make sense since testosterone exposure in unborn infants has already been theorised for a long time to be one of the main factors in developing a bisexual orientation (masculinization in females and hypermasculinization in males) which is why both these gay and straight women might identify as bi after going on male hormones. Gay TiFs who start taking lower doses of testosterone also notice their attraction to men decreasing while straight TiFs will start feeling less attraction to women. Estrogen is not believed to have any effect on sexual orientation and studies have shown that straight TiMs are usually experiencing something known as pseudo-androphilia or pseudo-bisexuality where they only believe they are attracted to men because of their fetish. Bisexual TiMs may have also not admitted to their bisexuality until presenting as women because bisexuality is less acceptable in men than it is in women.

Anonymous 09/08/19 (Sun) 11:15:29 AM No. 459534

>>459506
Hontra is clearly an AGP who is experiencing pseudo-bisexuality. Even the way he describes how he is attracted to men but in a different way from how he feels about women is telling.

Anonymous 09/08/19 (Sun) 11:16:28 AM No. 459535

>>459510
>gendered behavior
'Sexed behavior' is more accurate because gender would be the social constructs associated with the sexes and is not biological.

Anonymous 09/08/19 (Sun) 11:26:13 AM No. 459536

>>459511
What about Gregory Gorgeous the man who came out as gay and then took hormones and came out as bi and later on came out as a lesbian?

Anonymous 09/08/19 (Sun) 12:06:31 PM No. 459543

>>459535
>social constructs associated with the sexes and is not biological.

This is the bullshit that started it all.

Anonymous 09/08/19 (Sun) 12:18:36 PM No. 459547

>>459520
Agreed. I do think a percentage of lesbians are probably bisexual but stay away from men on purpose. Can't say I blame them

Anonymous 09/08/19 (Sun) 12:30:22 PM No. 459554

>>459543
Gender isn't innate, anon.

Anonymous 09/08/19 (Sun) 12:39:18 PM No. 459558

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>>459554
>Complaining about the consequences of gender ideology while still pushing for more gender ideology

ok

Anonymous 09/08/19 (Sun) 12:47:29 PM No. 459563

>>459543

But 'gender roles are social constructs' is the god's honest truth, and is still a message that needs to be learned and understood by a majority of normies. 'Genderists' misinterpret the statement and basically just try to use it as an excuse rather than thinking about what it means.

Anonymous 09/08/19 (Sun) 01:12:14 PM No. 459567

>>459563

No, there are males and females, this is a biological truth, you can argue about roles all you want, roles relative to culture but going as far as be a complete relativist down the "gender is a social construct" slope then you can't complain when a man calls himself a woman or viceversa or a furfag identifies as dragon since you can identify as any construct you want after all and there are infinite genders that are ~ uwu valid~ when you make the point that all it takes to be a gender is identify as such.

A troon puts on a knee socks and lipstick, he is a woman, why? he identifies as such, and woman is just a social construct after all, so why complaint? he is part of the female social construct now, its the lipstick and dresses that make you a woman, bigot.

Anonymous 09/08/19 (Sun) 01:16:58 PM No. 459568

>>459567
Sex is a biological reality, gender is a social construct. Read a book.

Anonymous 09/08/19 (Sun) 01:23:17 PM No. 459571

>>459568
>Read a book.
>Translation: Drink MY bullshit ideology kool aid.

Why are sjws all like this. You are part of the problem.

Anonymous 09/08/19 (Sun) 01:39:51 PM No. 459577

>>459568

Ok, gender aint a thang, i was born a woman but i identify as a man, gender is a social construct and not attached to biology therefore nothings keeping me from claiming i am a man, what are ya gonna do? be a hipocrite? tell me how short hair and pants don't make a man?

why would anons want to reinforce that males in dresses are males if biology is not attached to gender anyways?. If you really believe this there's not point complaining , by your own clown logic trans women are women, social construct elements like long hair and long nails are the determining factor in them making this very same point. Gender ideology is exactly were troons are coming from to validate themselves and what their activism is about.

You play stupid games, you win stupid prizes, this is were relativism and politically motivated pseudocience gets you.

Anonymous 09/08/19 (Sun) 01:48:14 PM No. 459579

>>459567

Yeah that's why I said 'gender roles are a social construct' and just like the troons you're guilty of not thinking about what that means.

Of course putting on makeup doesn't make a man into a woman because women being expected to decorate themselves is part of gender roles.. the socially constructed thing which is flawed and backward in many ways.

Please, think.

Anonymous 09/08/19 (Sun) 01:53:04 PM No. 459582

like, this is why we are gender critical, because we are critical of the social constructs of gender roles, whereas the genderist viewpoint holds those social constructs to be more important than the biological reality.

Anonymous 09/08/19 (Sun) 02:00:51 PM No. 459585

>>459571
lmao this is so sad. leave the gendercrit thread if you cant even understand the basic concepts

Anonymous 09/08/19 (Sun) 02:16:27 PM No. 459588

>>459567
>>459571
>>459577
>>459543
Are you ESL or something?
Sex is real. Gender is made up to justify keeping women down, and is what opens the door for tranny bullshit, because men think "oh i like or relate to things stereotypically associated with females and also hate my body, that must mean i have a girl brain uwu". Gender and sex are not synonymous.
Long hair, dresses and nails don't make a woman, gametes do. It's a way of being born, not a set of aesthetic choices.
If this isn't a misunderstanding brought on by your own poor communication/language skills, and you actually are trying to shill gender BS here, go be a tradthot somewhere else. This is the Gender Critical thread.

Anonymous 09/08/19 (Sun) 02:31:08 PM No. 459590

>>459567
Learn the difference between sex and gender, dummy.

Anonymous 09/08/19 (Sun) 03:32:39 PM No. 459605

Whats your opinion on trans people who use intersex people to justify being trans?

Anonymous 09/08/19 (Sun) 04:19:59 PM No. 459622

>>459605
It's a stupid argument, intersex people have something physically different about them that complicates their sex..hardly the same as being trans or proof that being trans is a part of nature. I honestly feel sorry for intersex people cos any time I hear it discussed there's always someone that thinks intersex is just another word for trans

Anonymous 09/08/19 (Sun) 04:33:11 PM No. 459631

>>459624
>>459567
Nayrt but they didn't say that there is no such thing as sexed behavior or consequences and I don't understand why you're so mad at her.
Imo it's fair to assert in a gc thread that gendered behavior, such as a woman shaving her legs, is a socially constructed norm because it is rooted in society's views on biology and not the biology itself.
It's asserting that there are no biological sex-based destinctions, characteristics or consequences that is TRA ideology.
For example, it's a biological truth that women have periods but it's a socially constructed result that women feel ashamed or embarrassed for this natural function. A social construct isn't just a flimsy imaginary thing but it's destinct from biology because social norms can change.

Anonymous 09/08/19 (Sun) 04:33:13 PM No. 459632

>>459622
Can you explain it more since i want to know more about why trans people are obsessed with intersex

Anonymous 09/08/19 (Sun) 04:43:45 PM No. 459640

>>459627
>>459624
You are not born with gender. You are born with sex. No one can possibly be this dense and then top it off by doubling down when they get corrected, jesus christ.
Go and study English before getting into arguments with actual people. You're shitting up the thread with your stupidity.

Anonymous 09/08/19 (Sun) 04:53:56 PM No. 459644

>>459631
IMO, that anon made an error while reading, and just doesn't want to let it go. Up til this thread, she thought gender was sex, and that we've been saying sex isn't real, but now that the difference has been clarified, she's embarrassed, so she's just insisting everyone is saying shit they didn't. She wants to hold steadfast to gender being sex so she doesn't have to acknowledge her mistake, so now she's moving the goalposts by repeating what we've been saying all along, but with "gender roles" where "gender" would normally be. That's also why she feels the need to screech about "tumblr" and "SJWs" when that doesn't even apply here.
She's determined to yell at people to "win" this battle that only exists within her own mind.
If we let her narrate this internet argument to someone else, we're all libfems who deny biological reality. Meanwhile, the actual truth is she just can't fucking read.

Anonymous 09/08/19 (Sun) 05:07:02 PM No. 459646

>>459632
I've only ever heard trans people use it to say "look gender and sex is so complicated and that's just nature" but intersex people have a real medical issue.

Years ago some intersex babies had their penises cut off shortly after birth and the parents were told to raise the babies as female. A good portion of these kids didn't feel right all their lives and they weren't told about their intersex condition. Some of them technically transitioned later in life because they actually felt male despite their upbringing

Being intersex is real and complicated but I can't see how trans people feel validated by it cos it's a whole different issue these people deal with

Anonymous 09/08/19 (Sun) 05:24:25 PM No. 459653

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>>459624
Learn the meaning of words and stfu already.

Anonymous 09/08/19 (Sun) 06:08:39 PM No. 459663

>>459656
Is this homophobe-chan? You're as dumb as her and have the same ESL typing style. Nobody is supporting gender ideology, stupid. That's why it's called gender critical. The distinction between sex and gender has been a part of feminist theory decades before the modern trans movement even caught on. You keep insisting that they are synonyms even though it's clear that the word "gender" has more social connotations rather than biological.

Anonymous 09/08/19 (Sun) 06:37:44 PM No. 459672

>>459663
She isn't wrong though, they have been synonymous for over 500 years. As an ESL gender has more linguistic connotations than biological.

Anonymous 09/08/19 (Sun) 06:59:34 PM No. 459678

>>459672
ITT we're obviously talking about gender as a social construct. There is no reason to play dumb.

Anonymous 09/08/19 (Sun) 07:05:29 PM No. 459681

>>459672
As I stated, the distinction between sex and gender is very clear in feminist theory which is the context of this thread. In normal conversation they are frequently used interchangeably which can lead to some initial misunderstandings, but why even post here and refuse to grasp the most basic concepts of GC feminism.

Anonymous 09/08/19 (Sun) 07:16:57 PM No. 459684

>>459672
source for this 500 years bullshit? your ass?

Anonymous 09/08/19 (Sun) 07:33:17 PM No. 459689

>>459681
I didn't refuse any concepts, just tried to clear the air surrounding some confusion with whether or not gender and sex is synonymous. I do believe tacking on roles behind gender when appropriate is a great way to alleviate any misunderstandings and that's my only dog in this fight.
>>459684
Was actually closer to 600
>The "male-or-female sex" sense is attested in English from early 15c. As sex (n.) took on erotic qualities in 20c., gender came to be the usual English word for "sex of a human being," in which use it was at first regarded as colloquial or humorous. Later often in feminist writing with reference to social attributes as much as biological qualities; this sense first attested 1963. Gender-bender is from 1977, popularized from 1980, with reference to pop star David Bowie.

Anonymous 09/08/19 (Sun) 08:45:53 PM No. 459703

lmao god, why is this thread so weird? some anon constantly screeching about gay people burning down their crops and now this thing about “gender IS sex, you are all troon supporters!”. actually i would not be surprised if it was all just one person who is obsessed with posting here.

Anonymous 09/08/19 (Sun) 09:40:31 PM No. 459714

>>457937
HOLY SHIT. I WAS JUST EXPECTING BOTCHED SURGERY, NOT A GUY /LITERALLY/ CUTTING HIS DICK OFF.
HOW IS HE NOT IN PAIN?!?! WHAT IS GOING ON?!?!
WHAT
HAS
BEEN
SEEN /INSHOCK

Anonymous 09/08/19 (Sun) 09:57:07 PM No. 459719

>>459718
If you are genuinely this stupid go look up the context of the quote otherwise fuck off troll

Anonymous 09/08/19 (Sun) 09:58:49 PM No. 459721

>>459718
Communist beloved in materlism. The exact reverse of this troony shit

Anonymous 09/08/19 (Sun) 10:08:36 PM No. 459723

>>459718
Yeah because we are born female and become women by experiencing all the socialisation and oppression that comes with the construction of “womanhood”

Anonymous 09/08/19 (Sun) 10:17:27 PM No. 459725

>>459718
Oh, it’s just Homophobe-chan.

Anonymous 09/08/19 (Sun) 10:36:15 PM No. 459730

>>457937
holy shit

Anonymous 09/08/19 (Sun) 10:41:02 PM No. 459732

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>>457937
what the actual fuck.
How can someone even do that?? He's lucky that didn't get infected oh my god

Anonymous 09/08/19 (Sun) 10:51:43 PM No. 459733

>>459533
Id love to see the studies on this because testosterone in utero has been the go to reason for so many sex/gender differences and so many of those studies are deeply flawed. Anecdotal evidence is also something to be taken with a big grain of salt especially since TiFs and TiMs are mentally ill to begin with.

Anonymous 09/08/19 (Sun) 11:45:52 PM No. 459746

>>459714
Seriously, though, that has left me feeling very dizzy and queasy like doing down a sharp hill. This is Not Safe For Life.

Anonymous 09/08/19 (Sun) 11:47:38 PM No. 459747

>>458009
Trooning out and creating a fursona are both escapism through creating and RPing a fake character that represents you but is drastically physically different from you

Anonymous 09/08/19 (Sun) 11:55:01 PM No. 459750

Sorry for linking /pol/ here, your post reminded me of what I saw last night, but if you thought >>457937 was disturbing, watch the videos posted here a little further down the thread: http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/225818531#p225828328

Warning: Some of it is graphic. There a webms of the surgeries and an FtM with a weird piece of flesh that is supposed to be a penis. You can see the vein that is responsible for an erection in one of them, with the rest of the penis missing. It's horrifying.

Anonymous 09/08/19 (Sun) 11:55:36 PM No. 459751

>>459663

The “homophobe-chan” shit is stupid and getting real old. You also can’t be so naive to think there only one person in this thread who isn’t pro gay, right?(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 12:09:46 AM No. 459756

>>459751
Anon look what you've done, you've triggered homophobe-chan

Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 12:26:04 AM No. 459760

>>459756
Seriously.
>comes back a full 6 hours after all this is over just to say "Stop calling out homophobe-chan!!! It's totally not just one person!!!"
Who does she think she's fooling?

Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 12:35:30 AM No. 459761

>>459750
The picture posted made me feel physically faint, so if it's worse. I'll just sit this one out.

Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 02:00:13 AM No. 459783

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>>459718
This post has been brought to you by the 1950's.

Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 02:08:42 AM No. 459784

>>459760
Lmao it’s so obvious with how they always bring up the same things like Simone de Beauvoir and this thread is down in quality when compared to previous ones.

Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 02:24:40 AM No. 459787

>>459406
I'm not a hater but I 100% trans surgery is just free money for surgeons and doctors to tests shit on humans

Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 02:39:03 AM No. 459790

>>459784
these threads used to be fun and cathartic and homophobe-chan has almost single handedly ruined them. I'm starting to think s/he is a tranny plant sowing discord. Why would a garden variety homophobe spend this much time annoying us? There are far more places online to sperg about trannies that agree with his/her stance on gay people, and s/he has never given a good answer as to why s/he posts here rather than /pol/.

Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 02:40:21 AM No. 459792

>>459750
I have a strong stomach, and that first video was actually really informative. It's basically just a time-lapse video of a doctor performing a penile inversion surgery. Of course, the video depicts one of the rare complication-free outcomes.

I'm not going to repost it here unless someone asks, but the Play-doh analogy I've heard some people use is really apt. The doctor basically puts in a catheter, cuts a golf-ball sized hole in the guy's groin, then separates the skin from the flesh. He removes the erectile tissue from the penis, then rearranges the remaining skin into "labia" and a "vaginal" lining.

I have a family member in medical school, and I was actually able to identify one of the tools the doctor used frequently. It's a tool called a Bovie that cuts and cauterizes at the same time. According to my relative, it smells fucking horrid when a Bovie is being used.

>>459784
>>459790
People have brought Homophobe-chan up in meta several times. A FH just said "will hellban them as soon as we can", whatever that means. Admin made subsequent posts in that thread, so someone with the authority to shadowban someone has definitely seen it. So either Homophobe-chan was hellbanned and figured it out, or mods never did it. But I digress.

To return to more thread-relevant discussion, I think it's very unfair to solely put the blame on gay people for troons running amok. The pharma companies are easily their biggest enablers (which makes sense given that they stand to personally profit off of it.) Mainstream liberals (this includes libfems) also love to jerk themselves off about how troons are the "most oppressed people in America!11!!1"

>>459784
>bitches about feminists
>calls people who disagree communists

Sounds pretty 1950s to me, anon. Joseph McCarthy called, he wants his rhetoric back.

Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 02:54:56 AM No. 459794

>>459792
Third-wave feminism is the main reason for troons gaining so much power. Third-wavers are very postmodernist and neoliberal. Like how “the personal is the political” defined second-wave feminism, “what is a woman?” defined third-wave feminism. Third-wavers wanted to “reclaim” feminism by giving it a “positive” and non-threatening image (basically an image that men would like) after the intense backlash against the second-wave for being “misandrist”. Mainstream feminism was reworked to be embracing of femininity, being sex positive, and put a lot of value into men’s voices…even arguing that patriarchy hurt men just as much as it did women. I think it is quite telling with how second-wave feminists would always refer to themselves as “women” while third-wave feminists would prefer to calls themselves “girls”. Feminism become an identity rather than action. It became something trendy and marketable for capitalists. It was defanged and appropriated to become a tool of the patriarchy itself.

Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 03:00:05 AM No. 459795

>>459792

Are troons just gay people underneath? What’s your take on that then? Is a mtf detransitkons and they’re simply a gay man after that, you still consider them a troon or you stop criticizing them because now they’re simply a gay man and they’re off limits? I don’t see how they don’t have anything to do with the topic since you all use terms such as HSTS and stuff. I’m genuinely curious because idk why were talking about gay people so often

Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 03:03:41 AM No. 459796

>>459760

Sorry if this is considered off topic but I’ve sages. I was banned last week and during my ban, people were posting and you still thought it was me. I’m the same person you accused before.

I simply think “homophobe-chan” sounds fucking ridiculous and stupid. I’m not saying not to call people out, be my guest, but that phrase is getting old and sounds pretty lame if you ask me

Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 03:05:51 AM No. 459797

>>459795
Most troons are straight people with fetishises or body dysmorphia. Some gay people troon out because they think it will be easier to live life as a “straight” person. Being HSTS is much more common in conservative regions and religion plays a big part. In Iran it’s required by law for gay people to transition. In other countries like Thailand where I used to live there’s a lot of pressure on gay men to transition because of Buddhism. They have the idea that gay men must have been women in their past lives so they need to go get “treatment” which means becoming a ladyboy.

Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 03:07:22 AM No. 459798

>>459794
Troons (even AGP troons) predate third-wave feminism. I agree about your criticism of third-wave though. There was nothing wrong with second-wave imo, besides the occasional homophobia.

>>459795
>>459796
Gay people are often pressured into trooning by other people, namely their friends, the internet, and in some more recent cases, their Munchie parents.

Trooning isn't caused by a person being gay. It's caused by the pressure effeminate men and masculine women experience to conform to gender stereotypes. No one says it out loud, but I bet there are a lot of fucked up people who would rather have a troon "daughter" than an effeminate gay son.

Plus most troons are just straight mentally ill people with extreme fetishes anyway, as >>459797 pointed out. Former gay/lesbian troons have become the minority.

Also, please edit your posts instead of posting five times for each reply. No one cares if you think it's lame– we're insulting homophobe-chan(s) because she (or they) derail the discussion

Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 03:08:35 AM No. 459799

>>459797

Woah it’s really required in Iran to transition? That’s some crazy shit I’ve never heard that before

I also never thought about the Buddhism link in thailand. Thanks for the eye opening response. I’m going to look into the thing s you’ve mentioned

Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 03:09:42 AM No. 459800

>>459797
>>459799
I've heard that claim several times, and I do believe it, but I would still like a source.

Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 03:31:44 AM No. 459808

>>459799
In Buddhism they generally see homosexuality as sinful but unlike in Christianity they don’t see it as a choice. Thais believe you are born gay and you will always be gay because in your former life you were the opposite sex therefore the solution is to transition into a body like your past lives. Ladyboys are highly visible to the public since Thailand has a huge sex industry and many HSTS work in it because they are often discriminated from other forms of employment. Some hope that maybe get a farang sugar daddy and move to another country.

Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 03:34:22 AM No. 459810

>>459803
Testosterone does increase your sex drive and have a dampening effect on the tear ducts while estrogen can make you more sensitive to emotions but I don’t understand how testosterone would make you “understand science”.

Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 03:40:45 AM No. 459813

>>459810
>I don't understand how testosterone would make you understand science
That's because it's (ironically) an unscientific assumption made by misogynists and people with internalized misogyny.

Funny that people who purport to be "woke" are claiming that your sex hormones determine your intelligence.

Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 03:46:36 AM No. 459815

>>459803
Wonder if this scientific genius knows what a placebo effect is

Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 03:50:43 AM No. 459817

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>actualfeminism

Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 03:51:05 AM No. 459818

>>459798
I am aware they predate third-wave feminism as there are historical cases of AGP but the third-wave is what has allowed them to gain so much power in such a short amount of time. They gained the support of these feminists and these feminists will bend over backwards for them even though they hate women. Also I suppose you could partially blame Blanchard and those other sexologists who thought straight people should have the right to transition which inflated the numbers of transsexuals by a massive amount.

Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 04:57:59 AM No. 459833

>>459817
That blog is satire

Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 04:59:45 AM No. 459834

>>459817
It’s a joke, anon.

Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 05:18:19 AM No. 459837

>>459799
Well it’s not de jure the options are to either transition or be executed/tortured. Homosexuality does not officially exist in Iran and anybody who is gay undergoes immense social pressure from society to transition.

Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 05:31:52 AM No. 459845

File: 1568007112285.jpg (47.15 KB, 680x532, smug11.jpg)

I apologize in advance for blogposting, but this is a smug victory for me.

I dated a very emotionally abusive man from when I was 17-22. He had a lot of emotional affairs with online women behind my back, and even went as far to flirt with MTFs but deny it being actually sexual of any nature and them just being "bromance buddies".

So as of recently I learned he is recently dating a "woman" that homewrecked our relationship back in 2017 before we broke up for good. ( We were in a very toxic on and off relationship )

So there are NO pictures of her on social media, or so I thought. But she doesn't post pictures of herself. I did some digging and finally found her.

Except it's not a her; it's a "him".

I found his two selfies; both of them wearing wigs and having obvious trans people makeup. Prominent jaw, and the stereotypical trans weeb fashion.

I found this highly amusing, considering my ex is a diehard conservative who screams he is strictly heterosexual.

Why are bisexual men so ashamed of admitting they are attracted to men too?

I guess "he" can't be the mother of his children, since he doesn't have a vagina. I'm glad I dodged a bullet with this closeted man.

All along he wanted a bro who could dress up as a girlfriend for him and be in some weird DDLG LDR 4chan-esque relationship where he's the "dominant" one. ( My ex is a NEET who lies about his autism to get disability money ).

I love how these men playing dress-up think they are hot shit for homewrecking but at the end of the day, they can't be mothers with actual fulfilled desires that only women can do.

Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 06:45:26 AM No. 459858

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A subreddit just for women’s anatomy is now full of men talking about their titty skittles and magic lactation.

A shitty sub about women’s bodies and they gotta be in there making sure it’s their anatomy people are learning.

Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 06:50:51 AM No. 459859

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thoughts?

Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 07:13:44 AM No. 459863

>>459859
Lmao there’s loads of butch TERFs and a lot of detrans women in the movement are butches. This dumbass is an outsider who believes anybody who says troons are dumb must be a TERF.

Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 07:19:42 AM No. 459865

>>459859
Doesn't matter if they're butch or femme, actual lesbians don't want dick. They might show support for troons simply so they won't get the terf stigma, but no actual real life flesh and blood lesbian would fuck a dick, and that's what it boils down to. They will still call lesbians terfs for simply not wanting their soggy seacucumbers or rotting neogashes.

Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 07:23:48 AM No. 459866

>>459859
What? Radfem communities are like one of the only places I see butches just existing because if they hang around other places they’re always being pressured to identify as enbyshit or become a trans man.

Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 07:30:31 AM No. 459867

>>457894
My ex lied to me for 1 year and jerked off to them,
My current bf hates them with a passion and gets physically sick when thinking about them.

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Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 07:32:26 AM No. 459870

>>459859
>Butch lesbian are honestly some of the trans community greatest allies!
But you also cancel and harass them for liking (real) vaginas and not girldick and want them to troon out just for being gnc. TRAs also act like a fucking cult so of course lesbians won't say shit and when they do…oof.
>>459866
My younger sister almost troons out for reading trannie shit on Tumblr, and at some point i considered it too because I was trying to cope with homophobia, this movement is convertion therapy at its finest.

Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 07:38:00 AM No. 459872

>>459859
??? I've seen countless TRAs come down on TERFs for looking "mannish", call them "dykes", "FtMs in denial", etc. They're constantly targeting butch lesbians.
Why are they changing the story? One second, all GC women are tradthots, Karens and sister-wives who seek to enforce gender roles, and the next, we're all big hairy butches who are mad because trannies are more womanly than us and/or we don't want to accept that we're actually men in women's bodies.

Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 07:49:28 AM No. 459874

>>459859
This is funny because one of the early tumblr radfems that the TRAs were adamant about bringing down was the butch lesbian lesbolution along with her butch gf and this whole group of butch radfems. Actually it seems like radical feminism attracts a lot of lesbians in general because they feel like gender is a prison (particularly compulsory heterosexuality) and they are much more critical of men since they aren’t attracted to them and they hate how AGPs have this sexual obsession with them. Although since AGPs are pornsick males who like femininity they only seem attracted to femmes and seem threatened by the existence of butches.

Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 07:57:47 AM No. 459877

>>459866
Even the normie butches I meet who aren’t involved with internet wank are kinda weirded out by troons or flat-out hate them. One of them said she had some sympathy for them if they were gay men since she knew some butches who transitioned because they found life too difficult as GNC women although she is convinced that most TiMs are probably straight men doing it as a fetish. She called it “extreme transvestism”.

Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 08:05:15 AM No. 459878

>>459859
I see both "all terfs are ugleee lesbians who look like men" and this "all terfs are suburban, married, middle class karens lmao" shit depending on the point the idiot is question is trying to make.

Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 08:08:42 AM No. 459879

>>459877
They don’t need to go on the internet to be affected by troons since troons are infesting lesbian bars, events, marches, everything. I am bi and I was invited by my lesbian friend to attend an event for women who want to meet and date other women but there were shitloads of troons at the meet-up.

Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 08:20:51 AM No. 459882

>>459878
One one hand they hate lesbians but on the other hand this will sound homophobic and misogynistic so they often make it woke by putting "cis" in the front of lesbian.

Funny how they don't think a woman's worth being based on her attractiveness or gender conformity is not sexist drivel though. They always insult women's appearances.

Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 08:28:54 AM No. 459885

>>459882
>REEEEEE you hairy, manly and unlady like dykes are just JEALOUS that we are cute and super femenine teehee~
Totally not misogynistic, sexits nor homophobic guys
>>459879
>Shitloads of troons at the meet-up
What a fucking nightmare

Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 08:55:28 AM No. 459893

>>459879
>I am bi and I was invited by my lesbian friend to attend an event for women who want to meet and date other women but there were shitloads of troons at the meet-up.

This is sad and hilarious.
>place for women to meet women
>full of cishet men dressed as women

Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 09:24:01 AM No. 459906

>>459859
>ive literally never seen a butch terf
Are you fucking blind

Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 09:42:57 AM No. 459912

>>459893
There's really no such thing as "cis" and they weren't "cis" anyway.

Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 10:47:00 AM No. 459933

>>459867
Grindr has its share of conservative family men who protest against trannies publicly then fuck them privately. Glad I don't date men cos tbh the most vocal 'eww I hate trannies' type men.. I think they protest too much

Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 12:32:35 PM No. 459947

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https://twitter.com/bunnysnack/status/1170802033785540608?s=19
A small thread, but it's literally just filled with gay/bisexual men in denial.

Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 12:36:59 PM No. 459948

A post over on KF pondered that some of the trans people are just doing it to shed an identity they used to be a pervert to women or children. Um Yaniv. (The post is in the stinky thread. Stinky is ftm now in a possible attempt to hide her former disgusting self with a new disgusting self).

How many pedos get caught but the the parents don't want to subject their child to a child so they run them off? It's a conspiracy but it could happen.

Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 12:44:03 PM No. 459950

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This is what TRAs sound like.

Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 12:44:55 PM No. 459951

>>459950
TiMs are spergs.

Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 12:58:14 PM No. 459953

>>457894
Husband (GC straight) hates them. Totally cool with LGB in all its forms - I'm a GNC bi woman and his brother is a GNC gay man - but he's totally onside with gendercrit feminist discourse on transhit.

Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 01:01:19 PM No. 459954

>>457937
literally went dizzy and on the verge of throwing up. seriously. this is a seriously bad bad bad thing

Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 01:12:03 PM No. 459955

>>457525
sorry for necro answer, but I had a boyfriend who had been sexually abused from ages 9-12 by a male neighbour. He didn't pursue romantic r/ships with men, but did occasionally "lapse" into sexual r/ships with them when he was struggling mentally. He described himself as straight, I think it was just a trauma response sadly.

Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 01:32:55 PM No. 459957

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Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 01:35:16 PM No. 459958

>>459957
tifs still exist.

Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 01:51:31 PM No. 459959

>>459957
>definition of female
>by appearance or by identification

lol

>>459653
>Learn the meaning of words and stfu already.

Learn the meaning of words anon!

Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 01:54:17 PM No. 459960

>>455701
I know the post I'm responding to is old as fuck but it's haunting me and I have to know, what exactly is going on here?

Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 01:56:19 PM No. 459961

>>459955
Thanks for sharing anon. Trauma could perhaps make sense as a source of the effect. Not that we really understand exactly how sexualities come up.

Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 01:58:01 PM No. 459963

>>459957
It's always women who are expected to be inclusive and give up space to males and never the other way around.

Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 01:58:02 PM No. 459964

I think womanhood is just 1. being afab, and 2. the experience of being forced/socialized into the feminine gender role since birth. the biological function of the afab body is a uniquely female experience. being forced/socialized into the female role since birth is a uniquely female experience.

ex, gals can like the same things as guys, but they're interaction with them is different because of their sex+socialization, so it's a completely different experience.

Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 02:03:19 PM No. 459965

>>459964
Yes that's what second-wave feminists agree with.

Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 02:06:31 PM No. 459966

>>459963

Yeah, because it were female movements that got appropriated with gender ideology zealots. This is the result.

Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 02:17:32 PM No. 459969

>>459960
female to male sex surgery. Obviously the poor woman does not stop being female and she sure as hell isn't male. They just take skin from her body and stretch it over a plastic tube that she can pump to "make hard". The pump is usually in the "testicle sack", which is in fact more loose skin. It's nightmare fuel that makes Frankenstein look like a nice guy.

Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 02:19:36 PM No. 459970

>>459963
PLenty of male only spaces opened up to women in the past anon, don't be ridiculous.

>>459964
There is not one womanhood anon, different cultures have different gender roles. Womanhood differs castly from culture to culture.

Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 02:20:13 PM No. 459971

How do you girls who date men spot closeted dudes? I really don’t want to date or invest in a mother guy who’s just going to leave me for a troon or jerk off to them any chance he gets.

Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 02:25:07 PM No. 459972

>>459957
This is so fucking sad

Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 02:34:47 PM No. 459976

>>459970
nothing she said implies that there is one experience of womanhood, ofc the socialization changes based on culture

Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 02:52:07 PM No. 459981

>>459950
>>459951
Ty for the laugh this morning, anons

Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 03:14:05 PM No. 459983

>>459808
what happens to butch lesbians in thailand? are they all just forced to take husbands instead of transitioning?

Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 04:03:18 PM No. 459988

>>457937
WordPress host this website. If everyone tweets them they might take it down, I'm sure it breaks their TOS.

Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 04:12:38 PM No. 459990

>>459971
All this shit is porn addiction plus social contagion in straight men. So get a baring on his sexual interests by pretending to be into porn and wanting to talk to him about it and he'll spill his guts if he edges to sissy hypno every night or not since men have no shame and only care about if sharing certain info will get them sex or not. And just ask about where he spends time online and his political opinions since men love to talk about themselves and the transwomen are women or my anime catgirl trap discord shit will eventually come out.

Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 05:49:01 PM No. 460007

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Such a beautiful “lesbian” couple

Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 06:06:34 PM No. 460011

>>459971
I had a pro dominatrix friend years ago and she made more money from helping guys crossdress and basically setting them up on little play dates with other 'secret sissies' than she ever made from domming itself

I sadly don't think there is a way to know, they don't give off weird vibes and they are sure to guard their secret well. A whole lot of married men used her services for years on end while living a normal life otherwise. She was a gorgeous woman too but nah they wanted to pay her expensive rates just to use her house as a sissy hotspot ..

Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 06:15:43 PM No. 460015

>>459990
This. If they know from the beginning that you disapprove of certain things then they'll cover up. I used to genuinely be very open minded in my twenties and as a result I had so many guys tell me about their love of dressing up in lingerie or more often their love of large objects in their arse/their escapades after joining Grindr to try things out… I totally turned off men after realising how many watch shemale stuff and have anal obsessions

Pretending you're open to anything might help weed them out early cos god knows men won't be honest.. unless they think they'll get that pegging fantasy fulfilled

Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 09:41:21 PM No. 460062

>>459796
stop being a homophobe-chan then if it pisses you off so much to be accused to being one.

Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 10:46:57 PM No. 460079

>>459983
In Thailand butches are known as “toms” while femmes are “dees”. There are trans men in Thailand but they are less visible because there are not a part of the sex industry and yes a lot of homosexual women are pressured to get married off to men anyway. Women in general are less likely to express their sexual interests and Thai culture like many cultures does not take lesbians relationships as seriously as those of gay males. Women are thought to grow out of their homosexuality as they get older (there is the idea that many women are a little bi but prefer men and will turn straight) and lesbian sex is not “real sex” because there is no penis involved. There is quite a lot of animosity aimed towards lesbians in Thailand because the existence of female homosexuality is always under doubt while gay men are generally believed. There is especially a lot of loathing between men and toms but there are also Thai men with a fetish for toms and they’re known as “Adams” because of course men would do that.

Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 11:07:55 PM No. 460087

>>460079
Thais seem to understand women being straight or bi but not gay since a woman who is not attracted to men is seen as an attack on masculinity.

There are men who will harass lesbians or have a fetish for “converting” them hence the Adams obsessed with toms. There are cherries too who are straight women who like gay men but they’re basically the equivalent of fag hags.

Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 11:25:58 PM No. 460090

>>460087
Yeah which is why so many Thai lesbian groups will talk about how much they hate men and don’t allow men in. It’s also sad how straight Thai women are afraid of Thai lesbians for being gender non-conforming and think that lesbians will sexually harass them but they have no problem with kathoeys (TiMs) and gay men for being GNC and they seem to forget that straight Thai men are the overwhelming sexual abusers of women in general with loads of Thai men beating their female relatives or buying women from the sex industry every minute.

Anonymous 09/09/19 (Mon) 11:56:54 PM No. 460095

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>“My family had sent men to rape me,” claimed 34-year-old Vivek Azad, as he narrated his story. “They never supported my decision. I have often been beaten up for choosing my way of life,” he said without any flicker of emotion on his face and then went on to show his injury marks after he was recently thrashed by his brother. “They want me to get married and live like a woman but I can’t,” he said.

>Vivek is a trans-man – which means that he was born as a female but he identifies as a man. “I changed my name two months ago. Earlier, it was Pushpa,” he revealed. “Since childhood, I loved dressing up in shorts and t-shirt and sporting short hair. My family often forced me to wear frocks and did not let me cut my own hair. This led to a lot of physical violence,” he said.

>The beatings haven’t stopped. But Vivek is more determined to stand his ground. Dressed in a check green shirt and blue jeans, he calmly narrated his story without any hint of self-pity. “I cannot feel or act feminine. It is just not me. I want to live like a man and I will,” he said. However, he hasn’t had the sex reassignment surgery (SRS) yet. “Where is the money for a surgery? I couldn’t go to college due to financial constraints. All my school certificates were burnt by my brother after an altercation. Employment chances are thin.”

https://indianexpress.com/article/india/transgender-transmen-third-gender-minority-rights-empowerment-4415111/

But trans men are men and always had access to male privilege, you guys!

Anonymous 09/10/19 (Tue) 12:20:52 AM No. 460100

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>>459957

Anonymous 09/10/19 (Tue) 04:07:35 AM No. 460153

>>460062

>accusing anyone who thinks your phrase is dumb of having an irrational fear of homosexuals

I can't help but wonder, are you special needs?

Anonymous 09/10/19 (Tue) 04:16:02 AM No. 460156

https://scontent.fcxh2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/70834130_3001954146696763_7506244219288158208_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&_nc_oc=AQkBpImcItwwaK2UWhkbeFKboqJkbQNCoahNwtnQ_EcKv1B_C-ETUIwXf_RxTmpHd80&_nc_ht=scontent.fcxh2-1.fna&oh=1c935ef080cde86650d22bf3dc4f5449&oe=5DF76A0C

BRUH. We're just accepting reality for what it is. We've been oppressed for all of human existence because of our vaginas (and uteri and ovaries and breasts and shorter stature and etc etc). Of course our biological processes are important to our cause as feminists. I swear these people live in a fantasy land

Anonymous 09/10/19 (Tue) 05:07:50 AM No. 460170

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>>460153
>not understanding what homophobia means

Anon, are YOU special needs?

Anonymous 09/10/19 (Tue) 05:21:21 AM No. 460172

>>460153
>homophobe-chan still ban evading
It never ends

Anonymous 09/10/19 (Tue) 06:06:42 AM No. 460179

>>460095
"I cannot feel or act feminine" and there it is. She just doesn't want to dress like a girl. Either do many women.

Sorry you get beat up for wearing pants, that sucks, but as far as problems facing women in fucking India, this is bottom of the totem pole.

Anonymous 09/10/19 (Tue) 06:07:26 AM No. 460180

>>460100
Neocervix??? What the actual fuck?????

Anonymous 09/10/19 (Tue) 06:27:44 AM No. 460183

>>460179
Did you forget about the part her family had sent for men to perform corrective rape on her

Anonymous 09/10/19 (Tue) 06:33:31 AM No. 460184

>>460179
I like article because it describes how TiFs aren’t seen as men which contradicts mainstream TRA wank about how trans men have male privilege. It’s also interesting because the hijra (TiMs) discriminate against TiFs and actually have resources while TiFs don’t.

Anonymous 09/10/19 (Tue) 08:42:28 AM No. 460198

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I wasn't aware that the RF thread is problematic. It's one of the slowest in /ot/.

What's really going on here?

Is this a way of eventually locking the GC thread?

Anonymous 09/10/19 (Tue) 09:07:23 AM No. 460203

>>460198
Eh it doesn't seem to matter anyways, I'm guessing probably 75%+ of the regular posters on lc are radfem/gc by now.

Anonymous 09/10/19 (Tue) 09:28:14 AM No. 460205

>>460198
it's part of an effort to cut down on politics on /ot/.

Anonymous 09/10/19 (Tue) 09:48:17 AM No. 460209

>>460100
They're treating trans women as the default and actual women as the other. If they wanted to be more obvious they could have said "non-men" instead.

>>460198
/meta/ is full of people complaining about there being too much radfem stuff on lolcow and how it's "ruining" the "culture" of the site.

Anonymous 09/10/19 (Tue) 10:05:48 AM No. 460214

>>460203

RF is GC, but GC is not RF. They should not be conflated.

>>460205
>>460209

Yes, I am aware of the complaints.

The RF thread was started at the request of several anons who attended the last town hall.

Anonymous 09/10/19 (Tue) 10:12:47 AM No. 460217

>>460100
>Information about cervical cancer
>Most of it is about people that don't have a cervix

Wow.

Anonymous 09/10/19 (Tue) 10:13:22 AM No. 460218

>>460205
Let's hope this thread isn't next.

Anonymous 09/10/19 (Tue) 11:55:23 AM No. 460246

>>460198
Feminism is problematic?

Anonymous 09/10/19 (Tue) 11:55:39 AM No. 460247

>>460217
I just want to know what they even mean by neocervix, the bottom of the rotting hole? I can understand the delusion behind calling something a neovagina, despite it having none of the musculature or other normal functions of a vagina, by their definition vagina is a hole to insert things and if it fulfills that function, it's a "functional vagina". But a cervix? The delusion is going way too far. Where is the neouterus and the neo-ovaries?? Can they also get neouterine and neo-ovarian cancer?? Why do we have to bend down to this insanity, ESPECIALLY medical professionals? Can't they just say "transwomen don't have cervices"? This game of the Emperor' New Clothes is going way too far.

Anonymous 09/10/19 (Tue) 01:12:28 PM No. 460270

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are there any gc who are not swerfs?
i feel pretty alienated t b h

Anonymous 09/10/19 (Tue) 01:23:09 PM No. 460271

>>459954
I'm still not over it and I left the thread for around 48 hrs. I feel physically sick and extremely faint. And, my mum is going to be cooking dinner, but I feel really out of it. One of the most fucked up things I have EVER seen.

Anonymous 09/10/19 (Tue) 01:23:36 PM No. 460272

>>460270
What do you mean by "swerf", exactly?
Like, is thinking the sex trade is disgustingly exploitative to vulnerable women, and that that needs to be addressed and dealt with far sooner than something like whorephobia, what makes someone a swerf?

Anonymous 09/10/19 (Tue) 01:28:17 PM No. 460273

>>460272
i am pro industry reform but i do not believe sw is inherently exploitative

Anonymous 09/10/19 (Tue) 01:30:22 PM No. 460274

>>460272
A swerf is anyone who prioritizes the voices and safety of exploited, abused, vulnerable women over privileged women who choose to do camming for some extra cash and think it's fun.

Anonymous 09/10/19 (Tue) 01:41:22 PM No. 460276

>>460153
no. why do you keep being a homophobe is it pisses you off to be accused of being one? shut up retard lmao walk away from the screen bitch if it hurts you soooooo much

Anonymous 09/10/19 (Tue) 01:49:45 PM No. 460279

>>460079
>>460087
>>460090
seriously interesting info, thanks anon(s)!

I wanna ask if any anons have insight into the tranny/gay social Dynamics in Iran, but I feel like it's similar. gay men are "taken seriously" and forced to troon out or torture, while gay women are raped into motherhood (or torture).

Anonymous 09/10/19 (Tue) 01:50:00 PM No. 460280

>>460198
>Admin unironically using "problematic"

Have we been invaded?

Anonymous 09/10/19 (Tue) 02:02:06 PM No. 460284

>>458325
He's gonna go trans Anon, I'd bet $200 on it

He/she/they grindr browsing before 2020 is out

Anonymous 09/10/19 (Tue) 04:15:48 PM No. 460313

I've noticed there's a lot of people in their early 20s suddenly claiming they're trans. I have a sister who's in that age range and there's about 3 or 4 of her classmates from high school who have come out in the past year. Not saying she might come out, but a lot of the people in that age range are very stereotypical about gender. My sister got a pixie cut recently and the first thing she did was call herself a boy.

Anonymous 09/10/19 (Tue) 04:53:05 PM No. 460321

>>460313

they spent all their teens with tumblr gender ideology and media hype about a trillion genders and social justice, they are just joining the bandwagon of their day.

Zoomers are exactly how everyone expected they would turn out. Austistic genderspecials.

Anonymous 09/10/19 (Tue) 10:12:23 PM No. 460400

>>460274
Thank you, anon.

Anonymous 09/10/19 (Tue) 10:24:01 PM No. 460405

>>460279
You can google about transsexuality in Iran and there are some people recalling their experiences of it as a “treatment” for being gay. If convicted for homosexuality then it is punishable by death for men while women endure torture. A way to live out your sane-sex attraction is to undergo gender transition and change your legal gender - the Iranian government actually subsidises for this so its state-sanctioned conversion therapy. The Iranian internet is heavily restricted and censored so it’s very rare to find Iranian users on the English-speaking web unless they are using a VPN or they left as a refugee for another country. And of course it’s even rarer to find gay Iranians since gay people are already less common and Iran doesn’t even believe homosexuality exists so most gay Iranians remain in the closet their entire levels or never even heard of homosexuality.

Anonymous 09/10/19 (Tue) 10:25:45 PM No. 460406

>>460270
No because the sex industry operates on the social construction of gender. Women are objectified and traded like pieces of flesh yet they are blamed for their own exploitation and not the men who purchase them.

Anonymous 09/10/19 (Tue) 10:36:35 PM No. 460411

>>460273
Heterosexual intercourse is not an act with “equal” outcomes due to biological factors. The woman is much more at risk as she is having another organ placed inside of her, there is the possibility of pregnancy which he doesn’t need to deal with, and the contraction of diseases which can be more more serious in women as the symptoms are less noticeable than those in men. Anons in the now-locked radfem thread were discussing the differences in energy expenditure in human reproduction with how it is so much more physically costly to women, especially in the modern era because patriarchy has basically thrown out any need for female mate choice and male-male competition. Sex is not a right and purchasing others for sexual pleasure is objectification.

Anonymous 09/10/19 (Tue) 10:43:15 PM No. 460413

>>460411
As someone who had to sell her body out when times were tough there is usually a physical disadvantage for women too. So many encounters can turn violent very fast because men who purchase sex do NOT respect women whatsoever. Prostitutes have to carry some weapons on them, use fake phone numbers, have some escape route planned out etc. I am not a woman of color but it’s even worse for them because not only do they get exploited and hated by their own communities but a lot of white men will specifically hire them to engage in degrading racial fetishes for them.

“Empowering” my ass.

Anonymous 09/10/19 (Tue) 10:49:20 PM No. 460416

>>460413
I don’t understand how anybody could be ok with a man who purchases sex. That’s blatant disrespect and commodification of female bodies.

Anonymous 09/10/19 (Tue) 11:01:16 PM No. 460422

>>460273
how the fuck are you going to “reform” an industry which has the highest risk of death, the highest rate of ptsd, an average starting age of 14, 80-90% of it workers are female, millions of prostituted people are literal sex slaves, and so much other shit.

Anonymous 09/11/19 (Wed) 01:36:49 AM No. 460471

>>460270
tbh I've lived or worked with or around sex workers my whole life and it being illegal very obviously makes their lives way worse

I'm pro sex work legalization in the same way I'm pro drug and abortion legalization, if you partake in it your life is most likely a disaster but it being illegal just makes it worse as you have to associate with violent criminals with no legal recourses avialable and the state will never actually be able to stop people from doing it anyway

Anonymous 09/11/19 (Wed) 03:24:23 AM No. 460506

>>460471
You are aware the places that have legalised prostitution have actually ended up worse, right? I feel like the solution would be to criminalise the men who purchase and sell sex rather than the prostitutes themselves.

Anonymous 09/11/19 (Wed) 03:28:10 AM No. 460507

>>460471
Comparing prostitution to abortion is insane. Abortion rights give women full bodily autonomy as they have always been oppressed for their reproductive capabilities.

Anonymous 09/11/19 (Wed) 03:38:50 AM No. 460509

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>>460270

Anonymous 09/11/19 (Wed) 03:49:22 AM No. 460510

>>460471
Legalization of prostitution actually increases human trafficking

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0305750X12001453

Anonymous 09/11/19 (Wed) 04:28:26 AM No. 460516

>>460198

OP anon here.

Am I supposed to rewrite the OP to be Feminism General? Because GC is not inherently RF.

This thread is recognized as a place to discuss GC free of RF and infighting over feminism. I don't want to see this change.

Anonymous 09/11/19 (Wed) 06:49:06 AM No. 460543

>>460471
>>460506
The Nordic Model criminalises purchasing of sex without penalising the women. Fully legalising prostitution only empowers men who purchase sex and increases the rates of sexual trafficking.

Anonymous 09/11/19 (Wed) 07:14:47 AM No. 460550

>>460413
I think one thing people don’t understand about prostitution (or the sex industry in general) is that it’s not just about purchasing sex but also the pleasure of power and control the buyer receives from dominating and using a woman who is coerced into the situation.

Anonymous 09/11/19 (Wed) 09:08:46 AM No. 460580

>>460543
As a lawyer, the Nordic model is a joke. Criminalizing buying something, while allowing it's selling to be legal is preposterous. It makes zero sense legally or morally, it only makes sense in a the ends justify the means, the ends being allowing a disgusting industry to keep on functioning and criminalizing a demographic (the buyers) that is not deterred by the criminalization. Prostitution should be criminalized, like all unethical industries.

Anonymous 09/11/19 (Wed) 09:29:31 AM No. 460584

>>460580
How come countries where it's fully criminalized aren't doing a better job at solving the problem than countries that employ the Nordic model?

Anonymous 09/11/19 (Wed) 09:34:01 AM No. 460585

>>460584
The reason is that they use the criminalization in a positivist manner. The claim that making it illegal is enough and now all should follow the law. They do not take any extra steps to enforce it, no extra steps to truly punish pimping and often have exorbitant punishments for prostitutes. Basically, they do nothing other than putting it into law, which obviously is not enough. The criminalization should be coupled with actual policies to enforce it and obviously in prison help for the prostitutes to rehabilitate themselves. They are non violent criminals and I believe they can be rehabilitated, unlike violent scum.

Anonymous 09/11/19 (Wed) 10:20:05 AM No. 460591

>>460580
The nordic model makes sense because its based on a human selling themselves. It protects vulnerable people and criminalises the demand.

Anonymous 09/11/19 (Wed) 10:50:02 AM No. 460596

>>460591
It doesn't make sense anon, every human is selling themselves when they work. Prostitutes simply have nothing else other than their literal genitals to sell because it's the only thing of worth they have and people care to pay for. Some types of selling themselves are illegal due to moral reasons, prostitution being one of them. Thinking that prostitutes should be free to sell themselves makes no sense, since they facilitate a situation where a morally repugnant and criminal affair takes place. Excluding them from the legal repercussions is nothing but liberal feminism pandering.

Anonymous 09/11/19 (Wed) 11:02:39 AM No. 460598

>>460596
Do you think we should also punish children who are violating child labour laws?

Anonymous 09/11/19 (Wed) 11:04:18 AM No. 460599

>>460596
>every human is selling themselves when they work
so you take up hundred dicks in your ass every day, or are ready to do so? fucking idiot

Anonymous 09/11/19 (Wed) 11:05:33 AM No. 460601

>>460596
>every human is selling themselves when they work
Sex work isn’t like other forms of work though.

Anonymous 09/11/19 (Wed) 11:12:17 AM No. 460602

>>460598
Children are not adults, obviously not.

>>460599
A little aggressive aren't we? Let me know when you have an argument.

>>460601
Oh I absolutely agree, which is why it needs to be outlawed. It is a moral, health and social hazard.

Anonymous 09/11/19 (Wed) 11:26:31 AM No. 460605

>>460596
I'm sorry, but there really isn't a point in engaging further when you think all humans sell themselves like prostitutes do with their bodies. Can't think of any other jobs were there's an expectation of getting penetrated.

Nordic model works because of the disgusting nature of human trafficking and people being extorted by others for sex. In some situations were a client would get violent a prostitute would be fearful of seeking help because she'd be criminalised. Now prostitutes operating in countries with the nordic model can contact the police when fearing for their lives and get an actual violent offender locked away. Then the sex worker is provided with resources to change her circumstances. You're clueless

Anonymous 09/11/19 (Wed) 11:26:34 AM No. 460606

>>460596
>since they facilitate a situation where a morally repugnant and criminal affair takes place
But it's primarily morally repugnant because… it's harmful to the person selling their body and they are being raped via financial coercion. They are also the victim, you can't just treat it like any other crime. It requires some actual empathy and thinking in shades of grey. For example, how do you separate trafficked women from women doing it voluntarily? Women who might have voluntarily started at one point but are now being pimped out with little choice in the matter? How do you get trafficked and exploited women to seek help when there's a chance they'll get into legal trouble for it? What is even the point of punishing people on a technicality, when realistically the best thing for everyone and society as a whole is safe, helpful exit plans for prostituted women?

Oh my bad, I guess not wanting violated, vulnerable women to be further punished after all the shit they suffer through is 'liberal feminism pandering'. Liberal as opposed to what, radical? No sane radfem would ever think women should be punished for the patriarchal tragedy that is prostitution.