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No. 2416922

General Conspiracy Thread.

Do you have somewhat schizophrenic beliefs that worry your friends and family? Tired of getting red-texted for "tinfoiling" about recent events around the globe? If so, you've come to the right place.

Discussions surrounding government cover-ups, entertainment industry secrets, odd predictions, political intrigues, etc., are all welcome here.

Please follow all /ot/ board rules. Don't start petty infights, and remember to report bait instead of responding.

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No. 2416928

It's going to be so fun seeing thread pic every time I scroll by. Thanks, op and anon who made it!

No. 2416932

>>2416928
Thank you. This is one of my favourite threads so I always try to make a cute PicMix for it.

The Elsie Pepe Silvia image comes from the Elsie Media thread on /m/, you can find it here >>>/m/337155 there's so much great art in that thread! LC has the best artists.

I'm excited to read all the tinfoils ♥

No. 2416954

I love you nonnie

No. 2417011

The reason why humans have microplastics in their system is to make the 5G work faster

No. 2417065

now i'm sexually attracted to elsie IS THIS A GOVERNMENT PSYOP

No. 2417109

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>>2417065
Anime is definitely a psy-op. After Hiroshima Japan leaned into the "cute"/infantile image bc countries are led by moids and Japan basically trooned itself bc it felt like a fail-male

>The childlike cheerfulness of these sections of the news felt inappropriate to me and I wondered why the Japanese news casters felt it necessary to flood the network with such appearances. I jumped into yet another rabbit hole of research, and learned of the origin of kawaii culture (cute culture) in Japan, and how as a means of coping with the traumas of World War II and the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Japan responded with a wave of childish and cute themed art, products, and mascots.


>Kawaii culture still exists today, and is essentially a manifestation of Japan’s feeling of being an underdog, or a nation stripped of a sense of power, according to a report written by behavioural scientist Hiroshi Nittono from Hiroshima University. After learning about this aspect of Japanese culture, I am beginning to notice how themes of repression and indirect forms of coping with trauma appear in Obasan and I think it has given me a unique lens to analyze the novel through.


https://blogs.ubc.ca/sabrinadang/2016/11/17/cute-culture-in-japan-and-coping-with-trauma/

No. 2417112

>>2417109
Wow, adopting a cultural-wide humiliation fetish. Maybe the bombs did more damage than we thought.

No. 2417117

>>2417065
>I'm sexually attracted to 2D cartoons
You're just severely autistic

No. 2417126

>>2417117
no shit

No. 2417128

that is a sexy masc elsie thoooo… whoever drew that needs to draw more elsies

No. 2417133

>>2417109
The radiation gave them generational brain damage and thus anime was born!

No. 2417158

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>>2417133
and these anons were glad

No. 2417170

>>2417158
I kek every time I go into the food threads and I 100% bet it’s just a bunch of whites pretending to love asian food. The japanophile psyop is hugely successful

No. 2417184

>>2417170
>implying asian food can't be good
i admit that asian food outside of their country of origin tends to be shit but if you actually go to japan, you'll probably find some awesome food

No. 2417190

>>2417184
I never said it wasn’t good, it’s just weird there’s a bunch of them talking like pretentious hipsters about asian food and also about anime which the anime always looks like shit lmao

No. 2417880

Is anyone else listening to the cia tapes?

No. 2417884

>>2417128
>masc elsie art
? ive never seen that

No. 2417970

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>muh age of aquarius is going to be SOOOO good with society being equitable
>muh pluto in aquarius
In reality it’s just going to be this kek
https://thebeautifultruth.org/the-basics/what-is-technofeudalism/
Lol those astrology tards don’t know what “equitable” or “egalitarian” they are talking about, honestly. Think of that Wall-E movie where society “advanced” so much most people could sit on their ass and waste away, because all of the work worth a shit (stuff that got food in people’s grocery stores and tables, keep their electricity up, plumbing and not all of that bullshit fluff that defined the middle-class) was downscaled. I used to think that movie was full of shit but honestly.. you’re going to have even more useless people. I think people now are already useless and that’s why they don’t give a fuck. Why would they pretend to care about you when their plans are going according to their own agenda? Stop screaming about healthcare and “lack of pay”, you want that shit for jobs that never mattered and shouldn’t have existed lol. You’ve been rightfully thrown away, it was intentional and most people don’t care because they are still begging and waiting for the same shit that only worked in a certain era, wanting the old ways to always work is just retarded.

No. 2417989

>>2417970
Hi dad! Wow, you've integrated really well

Jk but I sometimes wish I could show lolcow to my dad, he has a raging hateboner for Musk and would love his /snow/ thread. He's totally convinced of our techno feudalist future

No. 2418132

>>2417970
I don't think we're going to end up with technofeudalism. I think these giant corporations are the means to an end of our world elite to re-establish plain old feudalism.

No. 2418134

>>2417970
I used to think communists were retarded but I am starting to think communism might be the only way the average person might have a decent life. we really need to get rid of billionaires before they enslave mankind. we're going to be paying amazon to breath oxygen at some point.

No. 2418185

>>2418134
In theory, communism really is the key to humanity getting as close to a "utopia" as possible. The downside is that society has ran off greed and corruption for so long I really don't think communism would ever be executed in a fair and proper way. I think humans are way too tribal and greedy and want to pull the ladder up after them (if that's the right figure of speech).
I don't even think being a billionaire should be a thing. Once you reach that billionaire status you should be made to contribute a large amount of it back into public services to better the country you live in. This is more important now than ever because the average person's view of a "decent life" like you said has dropped in quality and material power compared to how it was pre-2007. We're working twice as hard with half of the rewards and hard work doesn't pay anymore in most industries.

No. 2418317

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what is going on

No. 2419071

>>2417970
I believe and as I posted before in last thread, might be more in the lines of exterminism. Killing lots of people and enjoying a rather cozy automated planet

No. 2419078

>>2418317
Twitterfag cow drama, it’s boring as fuck unless someone wants to make a thread about those types of tards but what would anybody call it?? I don’t know what to call those people, including the retarded woman in that picture.

No. 2419088

>>2418132
It literally just explained that in that article and technology is going to accelerate that, you’re just allergic to new ideas and reading apparently.
>>2418134
Communism would never work. Humans are too crippled, weak, stupid, tribalistic and selfish to have it work. Imagine constantly needing some despotic moid to whip you back into the shape because you can’t act right to maintain the stuff that actually makes civilizations liveable and fair? Yeah, no. Also men don’t want an equal planet, their biological makeup is the antithesis of egalitarianism. Trying to force that is going to lead you into way more trouble.

No. 2419156

>>2418317
i need the milk on the rawsalerts furfaggot i cannot find anything on the other farms

No. 2419649

>>2419559
Here's my guess:
>be average Japanese boy or man
>want to watch a fun anime after school or work
>turn on TV, find some show you may or may not like of whatever genre
>watch the episode for 25 minutes
>rinse and repeat once a week until the season is over
>if it's a fun anime maybe read the manga or novels at a cheap manga cafe or buy the series for dirt cheap in a second hand bookstore
>maybe look for other similar stories if it was really fun to read or watch or post a tweet once every 6 months "I liked the recent anime about [whatever] it was very fun!" or something like that

Compare this to:
>be average Western guy
>watch some random anime episodes on TV long ago after work or school
>it's very different from live action shows and fun in its own way so you look up other what other fun anime there is online
>turns out there's a shit ton of fun manga and anime about a lot of differenr genres, topics and for different demographics but not all of them are or were readily available where you are, you've been filtered all along
That's where the split happens:
>normal, well adjusted Western anime fan will simply watch whatever seems fun on TV or streaming platforms and will call it a day, will maybe become nostalgic for whatever shonenslop he grew up with in middle school, is unlikely to troon out and is likely to have other hobbies and interests
>dedicated, well adjusted anime fan will actively follow new releases, will maybe buy some Naruto tshirts from Uniqlo and will go to anime cons if he can afford it, is unlikely to troon out and likely to have many other hobbies and interests
>autistic dedicated Western anime fan is more likely to troon out and base his trannysona on some garbage genderbent harem anime slop character, believing that women act just like anime waifu because nothing else matter and will advertise it all over the internet all the time

Basically it's a matter of proportions and how Western fans have to more actively become fans in the first place so normal guys who could have liked some anime series if they knew about them are less likely to drown out the more vocal troons.

No. 2419672

>>2419559
I think it might be because degenerate anime shows pander to western degeneracy, meaning that their target demographic is western males, whereas normie anime series are catered towards a japanese audience. Kinda like how china has its own version of tiktok

No. 2419681

>>2419672
Not really, the main audience for anime is still Japan and the anime that Western troons like are originally targeting a male Japandse otaku audience. And these same Japanese men have very similar interests and fetishes as Western troons but still don't transition as often. Or the ones that do keep it to themselves a lot more often while people in the West in general are a lot more likely to publicly posts about their personal lives and their selfies.

>normie anime series are catered towards a japanese audience

Normie Westerners can also be into these same anime now that it's easier than ever to find series you can like online as opposed to relying on what's on tv but it's true that they're not enough and not vocal enough compared to Western hardcore otaku.

No. 2419702

>>2419559
Same reason why furries and witches have grown high in number, western schools and parents stopped pressing "fantasy is fantasy, reality is reality" so much on their children.
Imagine a kid reads Harry Potter and thinks they might be a wizard. A parent can go "lmao no" and hammer that shit down. Might make the kid feel bad about how they'll never be a wizard but they'll get used to it and will keep having fun watching Harry do cool shit.
A parent that plays into it, the kid might end up jumping off the roof thinking they might be able to fly.

No. 2419749

>>2419559
Japanese culture is okay with degeneracy if you keep it seperate from your public / everyday life. They are also a conservative, collectivistic, shame-based society. America is hyper-individualisti, heterogeneous society with long a history of racism. Through that, intersectionality and the focus on individual identity evolved. We encourage people to be themselves and be unique. So when you have a mix of LGBT activism, emphasis on self-reflection and identity, and political focus in culture (along with direct encouragement of troonshit in media and academia), you get people trooning out. Troons also permeate through the online space and groom other nerdy autists into trooning out. Think about all of the nerdy men and women in Discord servers for hobbyists who get exposed to constant troon talk and troon activism and then start to wonder if they might be trans themselves!

Japanese people view weebshit as an escape. For example, Japanese fujoshis know it's by women and for women. Americans / anglosphere westerners think that yaoi has to be some LGBT political representation thing. All those straight women fujoshis are fetishizing gay men!! What if you were actually a gay man on the inside instead? - is the thought process.

No. 2420150

Everything is socially contagious, particularly two important forces - hope and despair.

TPTB want to keep you in a state of despair because a woman without hope is just the walking dead. If you killed the hope in a person, you killed their essence. They won't do anything because they don't believe anything can be done. Hence doomscrolling was invented. To promote the contagion of despair so nobody believes they can change things.

But I really don't understand how anyone can fall for the black pill. If you look at history, the only constant is change. No matter how big or powerful or long lasting an empire or system is, it will fall, it always falls.

And no matter how bleak things seem, there's always that one thing left at the bottom of Pandora's box. Hope. And when it starts spreading, it's contagious as fuck.

No. 2420172

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The child explotation in elite groups stuff has faded in and out of popularity for years now and I'm aware it's a low hanging fruit of a conspiracy but I'm curious of what you nonnas think of recent news that's come out about things, especially with the Diddy case and how far that really goes, and also mentions of demonic and satanic stuff - do you think that's a reach or do you think it's believable?

Justin Bieber is looking like shit lately and it's heavily implied that he was groomed or underwent some form of abuse from older men in the industry when he was younger. All the news articles I've read about him have blamed his dishevelled appearance on some sort of financial issues but if you ask me they're placing bricks in place to use that as a scapegoat if he ends up "killing himself" or overdosing.
I personally think that Diddy, much like with Epstein, is just being placed on the guillotine now for people to focus on him and not the others who are pulling the strings. It's very rare that stuff like this is just isolated incidents especially with how insidious Hollywood is.

No. 2420181

>>2420172
You can check out this thread >>>/ot/1166213 to see discussions regarding child abuse in Hollywood and the entertainment industry.

Personally, I don't think JB looks disheveled at all, at least not in that picture. He looks like a normal 30 year old. He's quite a well-known stoner too.

No. 2420187

abusive victim nonnie(integrate)

No. 2420190

>>2420172
JB has been mentally fucked for a long time. i'm certain that Usher abused and groomed Justin in the same way that Diddy abused Usher. i.e take them to depraved satanic sex parties when underaged.

No. 2420196


No. 2420203

>>2420187
Toxic terf

No. 2420220

>>2420172
Of course, Diddy was only the one that got caught, maybe because he was so cocky, weird and particular about it. With him it was obvious because of the shady parties he used to host and the videos with him and young artists, or even the fact that he and his friends had custody of minors. But I do believe it's a thing that many elite people practice. After all we already got our confirmations with both Epstein and Diddy, it's not as unbelievable now.
But I also believe it's not that simple. For example, I think JB was groomed and then became an active and willing participant in adulthood. He most likely became the abuser at some point, and many like him which is why no one snitched for a long time (aside from the fact that some were threatened/killed).
I don't fully believe in the satanic stuff. I think it's an aesthetic rich pretentious edgy fuckers love to use at their sick orgy parties with children, but nothing supernatural actually goes on or that they're an organized cult.

No. 2420647

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>>2420644
Nah it's pretty easy, they use one of these with a latex/silicone vagina and even legs. It started in Brazil and then Hollywood basements found out about it

No. 2420667

>>2420647
This actually makes sense. She probably just used a fake lower body or something. It would still be traumatic having to watch 100 moids fuck a torsoless sex doll hence her thousand yard stare.

No. 2420675

>>2420672
I misread and thought it was referring to the woman who slept with one hundred moids. But one thousand? I feel like that would result in death.

No. 2420676

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>>2420667
>brave nona who ignored the ridiculous picrel and saw the logic in this
Here is your reward
>According to some pornographic actors, including Aurora Snow, James Deen and Keiran Lee, fluffers are no longer needed, saying that the role might have existed in the past, but disappeared due to medical advancements, such as Viagra and implants, and with advancements in prosthetics.
Picrel is an example of how lifelike they can make these things and will probably be removed but oh well

No. 2420766

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>>2420681
There was a few documentaries in the 90s where they show off the prosthetic thing. They'll have standard sex with a few moids and then go into the black box for the gang bang part. Everyone has seen those breast chest plate things, it's kind of like that with a sex doll attached. The idea that someone wouldn't use prosthetics to simulate a gangbang is much crazier than hundreds of women deciding to do this on camera. Or starring in violent gang bang porn and then "sharing your trauma" otherwise known as promoting the footage to moids who get off on legitimate trauma/pain who might not have seen it yet or will rewatch now that they know how much she has allegedly suffered. I feel like a-logging when I see women complain about the popularity of these clips, after they go on podcasts every scrote listens to, like "Call her Daddy" to "trauma dump" about them

No. 2420854

>>2420766
Wow that’s interesting. I mean I already called these women whores which they are but a lot of people have this weird misconception that porn is real, even the anti-porn crowd. It’s entirely fake and scripted like movies and like you said, the prosthetics like how they use for FX makeup to create illusions. I mean prom really is just entertainment mimicking the real actual thing, which gets anti-porn moralfags in a tizzy because they know it’s just projected degeneracy that happens behind closed doors, they’re only angry about pork because it showcases things that happen in the dark to the light that they have likely participated in. I still think it’s degenerate and disgusting but my honest tinfoil now that you shared that information that porn is just a fake smokescreen, all of those “sex trafficked” women must be going somewhere else maybe organ harvesting farms, underground surrogacy farms, drug smugglers, sweatshops?. There also seems to be a confusion on personal revenge porn and sex trafficking too, which is awful and should be legally punished but hm, this got me thinking ngl

No. 2420864

>>2420854
I really doubt the majority of all porn produced is 'fake' in the sense that it uses prosthetics, I'm sure actually most porn is rape on tape, but for big name pornstars they almost have to be using prosthetics majority of the time.

No. 2420866

>>2420854
I don't think this is the case the majority of the time.

No. 2420900

>>2420864
Honestly I don’t know, I think a lot of it is fake.
>>2420866
Disagree

No. 2421043

Jews aren’t the true enemy, they’re scapegoats for the black nobility - the true Illuminati.(schizoposting)

No. 2421050

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>>2420864
>I really doubt the majority of all porn produced is 'fake' in the sense that it uses prosthetics
It wasn't for a while, there was legitimate "rape on tape" that was all removed and replaced with fake content. Not to be gross but you can tell cum (female/male) is fake most of the time. A lot of it is tricky camera work, editing/filters and prosthetics with hosing/wiring. Scrotes complain about the sanitization of porn but these companies don't want to get sued by all of the (underage) women who were featured in the videos. It's a way to keep control over the content and not have to deal with the fallout from lawsuits/etc

https://www.barstoolsports.com/blog/3172678/pornhub-deletes-9-million-amateur-videos-will-now-only-allow-content-from-official-content-partners-and-members-of-their-model-program

No. 2421156

>>2418317
First three is propaganda pushing, last 2 is just moid retardation

No. 2421206

>>2421050
But most porn isn't fake. Squirt is fake, cum can be fake, but pretending the majority of porn uses prosthetics simply isn't true.

No. 2421638

>>2421050
>>2421206
yeah, the idea that most cheap studio barely making even take time to "fake" with wiring prosthetics and fake cum instead of just making them bang (like the standard since always) is really silly. Maybe one of the bigger studios would actually care to fake the sex part (or for real movies it's known they do that) but to go trough all that trouble instead of paying junkies to have sex is pretty nutty.
At most the bigger studios use fake cum specifically for gangbangs cuz moid brain but it's not standard at all.

No. 2421691

Why the fuck are chemtrails staying in the air for so long and getting so big

No. 2421694

>>2421206
>everything's fake except the thing I haven't heard about yet!
k

No. 2421701

Anyone noticing how much the dead internet theory is so fucking true? Like there’s probably the same 20-40 people browsing this website and were probably the only real people on the internet among like 500 people who are likely real and go on the internet kek. I don’t believe popular YouTubers are really getting true, authentic large amounts of views and money, it reminds me of that whole claim that the US was paying loads of money for dead SSI recipients, there’s no fucking way anybody is truly famous on the internet.

No. 2421709

>>2421701
It all started with Web 2.0 and the advent of the Social Web. Corporations quickly realized the unlimited potential for laundering schemes. The majority of all content on the WWW is a byproduct of sophisticated money laundering efforts by business entities.

No. 2421737

>>2421701
It really fucks with you mentally cause yeah there are many bot accounts replying misinfo or infighting when certain topics are mentioned. BUT if you accept that this is a thing that happens online, how do you know anyone on the internet is real at all? Where do you draw the line? It's scary to think about but we seem to be getting only more confirmation of it lately

No. 2421777

>>2421737
There’s also a whole lot paid to spread propaganda. So if you’re not responding to a bot, you could just be responding to a paid government shill. the amount of accounts like this are highly underestimated.

No. 2421851

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Celebrities are homonculi. They are artificial humans which is why so many of them look like crossbreeds, hybrids, non-human in some aspects. Because they aren’t human they constantly need “maintenance” to be alive, Harvey Pasternak didn’t just put Kanye in the nutter house for no reason, they go to these nutter houses and certain hospitals (Mount Sinai hospital is oddly popular with celebrities and the wealthy) to give them their maintenance. I would assume that’s what those “performance drugs” he was giving to other celebrities besides Kanye was, but I truly believe they aren’t humans and this isn’t a compliment. It’s why they always felt so incomplete to me, think of Pinnochio and Geppetto where Pinnochio only has childlike fixations and nothing else, there are non complex feelings or emotions. Some become a bit rebellious and want to overcome the grip of their masters and creators, which is why so many of them die early.

No. 2421861

>>2421851
>That the sperm of a man be putrefied by itself in a sealed cucurbit for forty days with the highest degree of putrefaction in a horse's womb ["venter equinus", meaning "warm, fermenting horse dung"[2]], or at least so long that it comes to life and moves itself, and stirs, which is easily observed. After this time, it will look somewhat like a man, but transparent, without a body. If, after this, it be fed wisely with the Arcanum of human blood, and be nourished for up to forty weeks, and be kept in the even heat of the horse's womb, a living human child grows therefrom, with all its members like another child, which is born of a woman, but much smaller.[3]: 328–329 
Kekk anon, it's allegorical. They don't make a little shit man. On the right track tho

No. 2421902

>>2421861
Do you not know what the art of alchemy is?? It went allegorical

No. 2421903

>>2421902
*it wasn’t(learn2delete)

No. 2422131

>>2421902
Damn nona you believe in alchemy? Are there any recipes I could try? Genuinely asking.

No. 2423888

>>2421701
I don't know a single person in real life who doesn't use the Internet aside from my grandfather. It's hard for me to imagine that nobody is genuinely Internet famous.

I honestly think part of it has to do with the average age of an Internet user decreasing every year, so many "bot" comments are little kids posting from their mama's phone. Not saying the Internet isn't rife with bots but a surprising amount of human posts could be mistaken for bots. A lot of people are straight up re tarded.

No. 2423945

There’s foreign and government interference on this website.

No. 2423948

>>2423888
No, dead internet theory is real. Fuck off with your retarded rehearsed responses
>”oh haha no dearie that doesn’t exist, look the other way!”
>using the word “mama”
You’re so obvious.

No. 2423958

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>>2421902
It's allegorical but references actual chemical compounds and real matter. It's not like a recipe book and specifically created this way so that that cave-dwellers can't figure it out, since knowledge is power

No. 2424030

>>2423945
And we're called crazy for stating it, mocked even

No. 2424160

>>2424030
>>2423945
What do you mean? Are you talking about the weird way how anyone pointing out the blatant foreign interference's influence on our recent political downfall suddenly gets sealioned or gaslit by anons trying to convince you there's nothing to see and nothing to worry about, pay no attention to the fire in the kitchen while the smoke alarm is screaming in the background?

No. 2424164

>>2424160
god and I hate how other people just eat it up, why isn’t it obvious to them?

No. 2424167

>>2424160
>takes large sip of FBI-brewed coffee

No. 2424181

>>2423958
You’re autistic. Look up elixir of life and philosopher’s stone, the occultist interpretations of pinnochio, etc. I’m done talking to plebians kek
>>2424030
Of course
>>2424160
I hope you schizos aren’t samefagging or trolling about being genuine tinfoilers but yeah, it’s why real opinions get immediately deleted and/or redtexted while others that feel like they were ran by some pro-Democrat script is being prioritized. It’s honestly spooky
>>2424167
>tabletop meme
Autist or scrote

No. 2424183

>>2424181
I already know what those things are and that you're wrong. I think a central part of the superficial persona you've created relied on the idea of you knowing ~esoteric secrets~ like this. Oh well, maybe you're good at art or tracing

No. 2424208

>>2424160
I am, yes

No. 2424351

>>2424183
I’m sure you do lmfao, imagine feeling threatened by someone in the tinfoil thread of all places. Oh no I believe in the occult.. like every single conspiracy theorist ever? You’re lacking a soul

No. 2424402

It's so obvious to me that this website and Kiwifarms share a huge overlap in userbase, to the point where I can recognize some of the farmers here by their KF accounts. Especially when they talk about politics, it's always the same regurgitated talking points that only autistic Thunderdome users use.

No. 2424594

>>2424164
At this point it's not even a tinfoil, it couldn't be any more plain or blatant, but some people cope with this cartoonish level of villainy and bullshit going on by sticking their heads in the sand and denying it. The interference has been successful, yes, based on a weak minded, easy to manipulate populace conditioned into a lack of critical thinking and knee jerk reactions through a reliance on social media; the exact goal that was laid out is being completed. That isn't to say it isn't going to bite these so-called puppet master in the ass from time to time because their puppet is a loose cannon who mostly does what he wants, but the main goals are taken care of.

No. 2424622

>>2424594
It's been posted about in these threads for years. I would agree that it's now no longer tinfoil.
>That isn't to say it isn't going to bite these so-called puppet master in the ass
It already is. The western elites weakened their own populations making them more susceptible to propaganda so that no one would revolt, only this has also made people in the west equally prone to falling for propaganda from Russia and China. What is even real at this point?

No. 2425805

>>2423958
youre the only anon on this fucking site who understands alchemy
>>2424181
youre a gay moron and brobably think that 'early jordan peterson was actually smart' also

No. 2425836

>>2425805
>they’re the only person who understands alchemy
Woahhh, you actually can’t talk to plebians kek. It’s like your level of understanding hits a certain ceiling while others, there’s no reason to explain things to people who don’t even have a soul or spirit to begin with.

No. 2425841

Imagine seething because someone is more “spiritually-inclined” than another person and actually understands that yes, alchemical practices do include elements related to life and what the fuck do you think that includes retard???? CLONING, creation, biological engineering, transhumanism, if you can’t even properly engage in this thread without trying to call people “schizos” and “insane” for using the correct thread in the first place then get the fuck out already, you can’t even connect the fucking dots that there are people high and above you who know way more than you who are obviously into that stuff and have shown it repeatedly time and time again, but I guess this is for soulless people who want to prove how “smurt” they are for repeating the same inane and surface-level garbage, proving that autists are hollows. If you’re autistic stay out of soulful conversations and stop getting upset people believing in higher powers and the occult, your mind lacks imagination and variety. Anyways, America is probably still owned by the British.

No. 2425844

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Yeah bro there’s nothing to see here, not like there’s thousand of years of alchemical knowledge that is connected to spirituality, lol disregard! Like fuck off already, tired of fucking faggots always telling me I don’t know shit about anything, I clearly do because I’m not a fucking atheistic midwit.

No. 2425971

>>2425844
Ok but how tf do I learn alchemy it looks really cool. Any book recommendations

No. 2426614

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Thoughts on flat earth/ ice walls?

No. 2426616

>>2417117
>I'm sexually attracted to 2D cartoons
>You're just severely autistic
Wait what

No. 2426862

>>2426614
Cool idea for a fantasy novel.

No. 2426882

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>>2426614
I like the ones where they loop around to it being a ball again

No. 2426908

>>2426614
>asgard
Nona do you really think this is real

No. 2426974

>>2425971
I don’t currently have any book recommendations, I wish I could tell you which good book to read but a lot of it I feel is a bit more spiritual for people who just want to read it to understand the full history and use of it (even though I know it definitely had a connection with witchcraft kek). I still currently have to do more research on it, but it’s way more than just “muh allegory!!” but you can look up alchemical symbols and properties as well. I would just research it on your own tbh, it’s kind of hard anyways since a lot of stuff was likely destroyed, stolen, etc. during the Middle Ages

No. 2426977

>>2426614
This one makes more sense to me. It dispels a lot of myths about the creation of the world to me. It’s very obvious that the biblical God did not create everyone and definitely did not create this planet, and there were likely species and life here before he “made chaos out of order”. There’s a female goddess named Tiamat who used to represent this chaos (the original state of the world) and many more beings, but people don’t mention or make these connections because ofc people are more comfortable with having a big daddy in the sky (or saturn’s lullabies) to pray to and worship despite the origins of humanity have a huge dark past. Besides that I don’t know, but I get the idea on the world dictating how you view reality even if most of the constructed reality is false so I understand flat earthers and their valid paranoia

No. 2426983

>>2426977
>she doesnt know about the Two from the One
>she doesnt know about the mad twin and mother of all monsters

No. 2426991

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>>2426983
Fill me in nonny what are you talking about? Also I meant to put this picture as an example of what I agreed with for my post >>2426977

No. 2427038

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>>2426991
hehe sorry for being facetious. im referencing some gnostic/classical prechristian ideas.
>the Two from the One
this is in reference to pythagorean monadism, which is a source of gnostic ideas. pythagoras believed in an 0rder of numbers that reflects the 0rder of the universe; as two evolves from one, duality emerges from totality. the Dyad emerges from the Monad and with it introduces primeval suffering (otherness, division, the pain of separation).
the Monad is perfect totality and unity. it is the self-contained Point of matter. it is Something but it is All Somethings, and Anything must therefore be included in it, and be it, and outside it is Nothing (apeiron; the underfined, the boundless).
the Dyad is the original injury, like the Amfortas wound (in more ways than the obvious). the Dyad is the first instance of Two, separated, with a boundless infinite gulf between them. you can think of the Monad as a circle, and the Dyad as two circles who overlap like a ven diagram, with the overlap erased (not a coincidence that this is a vulval shape). But more than injury and introduction of chaos into the heart of matter, the Dyad is equally a Door to infinity, and the portal (portal in the sense of "door") that creates the Many from the One (the Monad). Thus this "wound" is also an essential point of connection between the Many and the One.
This idea of a cosmic order reflected perfectly in the evolution of numbers a favourite of mine is also reflected in the story of Tiamat. Tiamat, the goddess of the waters of Chaos, was slain by the storm god (I forget his name), and her body dismembered into many pieces which are scattered and become the cosmos (Many (material) evolving from One (divine)).

>the mother of monsters

Tiamat is also very relevant to this. Tiamat intermingled her waters (the primordial ocean, chaos, salt water) with the waters of Apsu, the source-god of all fresh water (ie, that water which facilitates life). God antics ensue but skipping forward, Tiamat gives birth to legions of monsters who kill Apsu and scatter over the world. Because she is the embodiment of chaos, Tiamat can only bring forth multitudinous evil.

I won't get into the twin thing but I would like to address the seed of misogyny you may have noticed in this explanation. The mother of monsters thing is a colourful illustration of the themes already present in the more clinical pythagorean mythology. There's a psychoanalyst that I really like who is not widely known (at least in my country) who had a central theory that all birth is essentially traumatic to the child because it is an extremely sudden introduction to a life as a discrete individual surrounded by Other discrete individuals. Using the pythagorean stuff as a scaffold; a fetus is not discrete, it is a part of its mother, the all-encompassing One (as a beautiful etymological aside, I'd like to note that the root for "paradise" is the PIE for "enclosure, enclosed space"). As far as it is aware there is Nothing outside of the One which it exists not just as a part of, but as. Birth is the wound that creates the first Dyad, severing baby from mother. This is the Amfortas wound we all as human beings share. I believe that moids develop serious resentment towards women for this wound because 1. they lack empathy and are unable to reconcile feelings of maternal ambivalence (women get a head start on this because we have to consider the possibilities of being mothers ourselves, also we are generally more intelligent and can empathise) and 2. they understand on some unconscious level the vagina as a reflection of the Door from the One to the Many and thus the only real point of connection between the spiritual and the material and are seethingly jealous because this reminds them that they are essentially filthy hylics who have been divided permanently from paradise.

No. 2427044

>>2427038
(my picrel isnt a good representation of the more spiritual dyad idea i wrote with the centre erased, it instead shows how a point becomes a line as one becomes two and thus pythagoras' rudimentary understanding of dimensions)

No. 2427054

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>>2427044
but then again it is a good display of how, even living in the illusion world of discrete material severed from Others, we can be happy because we all originate from the One, and thus we are always connected to each other!

No. 2427084

>>2427038
The monad imo is the primordial chaos, what existed before. I want to know though nonny how does Yahweh and the other gods fit into this? I’m curious and have been trying to figure this out for awhile now, because it makes zero sense on how some invisible scrote can be the only creator of this universe and how one god can “fulfill” everything and “be everything” despite their being other gods who fulfill everything you know??

No. 2427091

Columbine shooting was a fabricated incident. And many more people were involved besides Eric and Dylan.That’s why all information about it from the time is being wiped from the internet. There are court cases that are sealed until the 2100s, this is stuff they don’t want anyone alive to know.

No. 2427100


No. 2427115

>>2427100
There are different theories as to why. But a major one is because they wanted to push gun regulations.
Mind Shock/Bruce Maguire have really good podcast where he goes through witness accounts that claim there were more shooters, case documents, theories ect. Also the website research columbine is really good and informative, it has almost everything.
Mind Shock Columbine podcast: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVsHlWhRW4zz16rTETZ7ySVNpAXKR4PKh&si=38suQHfrDVfLWGtl
Research Columbine: https://www.researchcolumbine.com/tie-dye-shirt.html

No. 2427159

>>2427091
>>2427115
>fabricated to push gun laws
lol no. I hope no one seriously believes this because this is the same excuse conservatives always push after a school shooting because they worship their boomsticks, the lives of children be damned. Looking at what's going on now, they don't have to take your guns to subdue you when you roll over on your bellies and let them dismantle everything this country was founded upon. Propaganda and conditioning through social media has been far more effective.

No. 2427218

>>2427110
So this is 100% a humiliation ritual, right?

No. 2427236

China does not have 1.1 billion people. Anyone who believes in any number they give have fallen for their propaganda. Realistically, they have about 700M people

No. 2427245

>>2427236
Why would they lie?

No. 2427360

im fed up people coming into this thread, saying some random theory and not explaining at all

No. 2427372

>>2427159
NTA. I don't think Columbine was fabricated, but I absolutely believe that the government does radicalize men into committing school shootings in order to pass gun laws to dearm the population. Even if the government isn't directly talking to these men and worsening their mental health in order to create these shootings, the media definitely heroizes and obsesses over school shooters in order to create more. It's a social contagion in the same way that suicide and trannyism is. So you have to ask yourself why the media would push them so much and cause this social contagion. And if you want a direct contrast of them doing the opposite, look at Luigi. World's biggest thing until they caught him, then suddenly every media dropped it. Meanwhile, they're still talking about the shootings that happened years ago, and bringing up the shooter and the full details anytime anything in the case changes or it's an anniversary.
>>2427236
I wish this is true, but it's probably not. We can actually measure how many people are in China by how much carbon dioxide they give off. That's how we knew that more people were dying from covid then they were letting on in the first month, because the carbon dioxide of the infected city suddenly plummeted in a way that couldn't be explained unless ten times the number of people had died.

No. 2427453

>>2427159
>no this isn’t true
Why do you anti-conspiracy people keep coming into this thread if you don’t believe in anything beyond the fucking status quo? Leave people the fuck alone in this thread if you can’t handle this level of conversation, stay in your retarded ignorance
>>2427115
I believe you, I definitely do anon. Don’t let the other idiots say they don’t plan these events, they seriously underestimate how this world truly functions. They won’t even click the links, won’t even further engage, that’s how you figure out if someone is an NPC or not ready to reinforce the status quo back into your life when you begin to step out of line on how the world wants you to think about reality. Thank you for the interesting video you linked I will definitely watch it and go over the links. Wasn’t one of their parents involved with the feds before the event or was that false? Maybe I’m thinking of another mass tragedy. I already thought this but that whole Trump assassination kid really sealed the deal for me, especially since he was in a Blackrock commercial. Another one that was also creepy was that Ulvade shooting where the police, piggies who are always ready to unload lead at a toddler on the street who decides to flinch in their presence, decided to stay out from doing their jobs. Quite odd.

No. 2427491

>>2427453
I'm not anti-conspiracy but I have standards as to what I deem plausible and what's put out there to bait and confuse people into believing something equally bullshit. Just because it's an alternative theory to the mainstream doesn't mean it's true, that's where a lot of people go wrong; "X was a lie, so Y must be true!" as if everything's black and white with no middle ground. You can believe it if you want, but I don't have to think it's legit. Do you think Sandy Hook deaths were fake, too? One should also think about why someone would benefit from a certain narrative and saying Columbine being faked to push gun laws only serves the NRA who certainly don't give a fuck about the average citizen and are as corrupt as any lobby.

No. 2428060

>>2427453
Jfc I believe the Columbine anon too and I've been researching the subject for a while but you're so annoying. You keep sperging out whenever anons have a different opinion than you ever since you joined the threads, you're so easy to identify because you keep repeating the exact same shit.
God I miss the original threads from years ago before we had retards come here to infight about sunscreen, veganism and try to dictate what topics are allowed here
>muh politisperging
>muh we can only talk about spiritual tinfoils

No. 2428138

>>2426977
I never heard of any of those. Tell me more I'm interested. Is Tiamat from specific religion? Or?

No. 2428267

>>2428060
No you’re clearly just retarded and subtly trying to tell people they’re wrong for having a conspiracy theory in the conspiracy theory thread. You can fuck off
>>2427491
Nobody is here to prove if it’s definitively true or the definitive truth, conspiracy theories are boring if you just think in such a mechanical, detached way. That’s why this thread is so fucking boring, it’s just another dumping frown for politispergs and TRUST DA SCIENCE!!!! spergs coming in here to reinforce to status quo and stop your brain from thinking outside of the box. If you can’t think outside of the box in the outside of the box, wacky thread then why the fuck are you in this thread and what do you truly have to offer that we can’t find on Reddit where they keep the conversations painfully surface-level? Like seriously?

No. 2428287

>>2428138
Tiamat is the ancient Mesopotamian goddess of the primordial waters (salt water oceans). Think Epic of Gilgamesh times

No. 2428315

>>2427453
Yes, Erics father was an ex fbi agent and his parents have never made any statements after the incident. Sue Klebold (Dylans mother) has made statements that she believes Dylan and Eric were under MK-ultra mindcontrol. Which also is a popular theory. Eric took heavy anti-depressants and Dylans medical records nor autopsy has never been released.

No. 2428395

>>2428138
Yes what >>2428287 said, but look up ancient astronaut theory and the Annunaki as well
>>2428315
Oh that’s interesting. I wonder why she did this Ted Talk though kek

No. 2428399

>>2417109
How will AI and mass means of production for animation by basically all countries affect kawaii culture though

No. 2428487

>>2427038
Thank you for this nona, who is the psychologist you referred to? Is it maybe Lacan? I'd like to read more about this.

No. 2428495

>>2420172
I don't believe in satanic stuff. I do believe in more individual cults with esoteric leanings or connections to malicious Mason groups (so things like Scientology, Royal Order of Jesters, Transcendental Meditation, Children of God, and other more micro cults with connections to Hollywood people) but the satanism crap seems very generalized and like a misunderstanding. many a Hollywood celebrity does have connections to a malicious smaller cult but I don't believe in a world order or "greater agenda" because that goes against human nature. No humans even elite humans would be able to work together long enough to actually engage and participate in a larger "order"

No. 2428504

>>2420220
JB allegedly infected women with herpes without them knowing and it was brushed under the rug.

No. 2428506

>>2428495
It’s a world order and you’re retarded if you clearly can’t see it. You’re not smart for deliberately ignoring the facts and deciding to be “rational”, you’re engaging in ignorant denialism.

No. 2428547

>>2428506
There are no "facts" about satanic woo woo panic religious crap. Stop visiting /pol/. Human beings are literally too retarded to work together to engage in an organized "new world order", connections and people knowing one another and protecting another under the guise of complicity is more like a conspiracy or organized crime. It's not an order. It's not a cabal. Go take your schizopills

No. 2428580

>>2427038
I love you gnosticism nonnie, I hope you post here forever.

No. 2428991

>>2428547
Go away glowie

No. 2429219

Going back on the Tiamat thing, I honestly feel like the reptilian conspiracy was a psyop. There’s been a strange ancient vendetta against serpents/lizard/reptile beings and I still don’t understand why kek. Fuck David Icke and his ugly ass, I hate whenever they just take some scrote’s words as bible (just like Alex Jones) when it’s obvious they’re bought out controlled opposition. Anyways this seems interesting: https://beeper1520.blogspot.com/2014/09/the-legend-of-annu-nagi-mythology-and.html?m=1

No. 2429223

>>2428315
When did she say that? I've read her book and watched her TedTalk.

No. 2429285

>>2428991
Stop being an antisemitic simpleton retard bitch. There is no cabal, and you don't know how Hollywood corruption actually works. You are too stupid to actually know how it works. The interworkings of fixers, micro cults, lawyers and how they protect rapist pigs are completely unbeknownst to you because you'd rather default to screaming about the Illuminati than ever consider it's more complex than that. I wish you luck developing critical thinking skills. Xoxo(infighting)

No. 2429294

>>2429285
>antisemitic
>assumes the cabal is only just jewish people
>projection of their own antisemitism on to others while saying we don’t know anything
NTA but hahahaha and that’s when I entirely just stopped reading the fartsy rationalist bullshit you’ve been writing. We don’t need your faggot sign-off signatures in here either, good riddance.

No. 2429297

No one needs 'full body deodorant'. It's a marketing psy-op. All those 'hygiene routine' videos on tiktok are sponsored by Dove to sell more soap.

No. 2429321

>>2429297
It' so weird how pussy deodorant ads keep popping up. I see women spray deodorant down their towel or whatever and immediately think yeast infection. I don't get it. If you stink anywhere besides an armpit after a day you need a shower and to work on your normal hygiene routine or check your health at the doctor, not use some deodorant in a sensitive area. I made this about deodorant for vaginas basically but I think using it anywhere besides armpits is really ridiculous.

No. 2429367

>>2429294
Okay oversimplifying retard who lacks nuance and is trying to psyop the thread into believing satanic panic bs. Some of you bitches are dimmer than half a brick I swear to god

No. 2429388

Do not become swayed by the Demiurge and the people he has brainwashed into believing he is the one true god

No. 2429399

>>2429321
They are pushing non-aluminum deodorants because THEY DON'T WORK and the manufacturers KNOW THAT. So people use these shitty deodorants that don't work well on their own and require the user buy more products to compensate for their shitty deodorants. And of course this is amplified by people not washing their hair because its supposed to be better for their hair forgetting that hair holds onto odors. Natural hair sebum has an odor and even when claimed that it doesn't the environments we live in will produce odor that clings onto the hair (smoke, smog, pollution, cooking smells).

IT'S ALL CONNECTED.

No. 2429725

>>2429321
i fucking hate scented products marketed for women to use on their genitals. they're inherently misogynistic junk designed to make women hate their bodies and ignore their health. if a man is so repulsed by pussy that he demands you douse yours in perfume then he's probably a homo in denial and if your pussy has an unusual odor then you need to see a doctor, not buy deodorant

No. 2429726

>>2428487
I love Lacan, but I'm actually referring to didier Anzieu, specifically his theory of the skin-envelope. He was not big on lacan funnily enough, really pushed for a return to Freud (and to the organic/body) in psychoanalysis, which I really respect and kind of wish had more staying power. I think one of the funny things about Lacanian psychoanalysis is despite (one of) its purpose(s) being learning to understand (symbolise) incursions of the Real (as the analysand must in order to overcome psychic trauma/wounds without language which underlie pathological behaviour), it ends up just referring to itself (symbols referring to symbols referring to symbols forever) and avoiding the Real altogether. So it kind of becomes a justification for pathology rather than a way out. At least, this is my experience with Lacanian psychoanalysis lol.
>>2428580
I love you too anon!! I will always return, I love this thread for better or for worse kek.
>>2429219
Great link anon, totally agree about Icke.

No. 2429727

>>2428495
>No humans even elite humans would be able to work together long enough to actually engage and participate in a larger "order"
This is an absolutely insane thing to say. I think one of the things that pushed me from this mindset (very common) was reading in depth about the Cold War. That might sound stupid, but it's fucking insane just how under wraps everything was despite involving two of the largest militaries in the world. People are extremely good at keeping secrets when their lives or the lives of their loved ones are on the line. We got a glimpse of how extensive the networks of blackmail are in Hollywood circles with Epstein, but it's crazy to think that what came out was anything but the tiniest tip of the iceberg. It's important to note too that in extensive cults not everyone is fully in the know, most just have scraps of information fed to them for blackmail purposes.

No. 2429809

>>2429727
It's deep but it's not that kind of deep, much more disjointed, and doesn't involve satanism and "bloodlines" and all that utter nonsense

No. 2429814

>>2429399
How long one can go without washing their hair depends on the hair type and activities they engage in (as well as living environment as you said). I can get away with washing my hair just once a week, I still take daily showers though. People with thin and/or oily hair who use a lot of product definitely need to wash more. I agree as far as the deodorant scam.

No. 2429827

>>2429725
True. When I was still a preteen, a very based female doctor told me to NEVER wash my vulva with anything containing perfume, I never understood why until now. Now that I think about it, why are we putting PERFUME in our vaginas?! That's insane and unnecessary, our vulvas are supposed to smell fresh and healthy but that's it, no need for rose scents.

No. 2429904

>>2429827
Dicks have always been way more stinky and dirty than vaginas, which are self cleaning, but there is not a single product designed to specifically clean or perfume penises.

No. 2430166

>>2429219
Reptiles have always been evil though, regardless of what you think of David Icke.

No. 2430259

>>2430166
In order to be evil "reptilians" would actually have to exist, and they don't.

No. 2430873

>>2429809
Why are you here again?

No. 2432160

>>2430873
Because the rationalist side of conspiracy is still technically considered conspiracy you retard

No. 2432421

>>2432160
Yet you promote glowie propaganda and disinformation. Here’s my own conspiracy theory about you: you’re a disgruntled fed who’s at risk for unemployment due to orange man/mustrat’s government tampering, was part of the (compromised) Anonymous spergfest targeting orange man not too long ago and is now killing time with psyops and gaslighting on fringe sites whenever tinfoilfags get to the bottom of things in the guise of “rational thought”.

Times up, glowie, now gtfo.

No. 2432980

Do you think snuff films are real? I know they have always been debunked, but i am sure they are real. I remember hearing one of hugh hefner ex gfs saying that he used to get off to snuff films back in the 70s-80s, so they have been around for a while.

No. 2432983

>>2432980
I think they do exist but aren't, for many reasons, distributed beyond a very small group of people. There's no industry out there, making money on it, but there's been cases where someone has filmed a snuff situation and shared it.

No. 2433104

>>2432980
Hunter S. Thompson is alleged to have filmed a few of them involving children being hunted down and murdered by elites

No. 2433140

>>2432980
Daisy's Destruction turned out to be real.

No. 2433212

>>2432421
Okay David Icke dicksucker extraordinaire pol export always talking about the least interesting most socially irrelevant and debunked conspiracies, see you in the next life where we will all be reborn as stardust(infighting)

No. 2433287

>>2433104
what's your source on this? id be interested in reading more.

No. 2433309

>>2433212
>muh david icke
Get your retarded scrote ass away from this thread(infighting/scrotefoiling)

No. 2433330

>>2433140
it wasnt snuff, daisy is still alive

No. 2433373

>>2432980
Naive to think they don't exist.

No. 2433394

>>2432980
>>2432983
ISIS promotion videos exist and are/were deliberately made high budget.

No. 2433549

>>2433140
Alleged mk-ultra victims such as Paul Bonacci and Fiona Bartlett. Bonacci was allegedly involved in the Franklin coverup as a trafficking victim.

No. 2433845

>>2433330
The original that was passed around had three minor girls, one was an infant. The two older girls lived. The infant was tortured on camera and then buried off camera but discussed. When the two girls were rescued they confirmed this. It was part of the threats their abusers used to get them to comply. It isn't worth being nit picky about it. Those people did a vile evil thing to film and sell.

No. 2433851

>>2433845
did they actually rape a baby? i feel like i'm going to be sick

No. 2433868

>>2433851
They killed it and yes the two women were involved in preforming sexual assault on it. They were convicted of this. They went to jail. Peter Scully and Liezyl Margallo served time. The second female in the video was believed to be of age but during the filming may have been a minor. testimony about her is given but her name is never shared. The living children were Diasy and Liza. My understanding that they are both adopted with name changes from when they were purchased. I'm sorry for making you feel ill. Let's wish those two girls the best lives they can possibly have, they deserve it.

No. 2433897

>>2427115
thanks for sharing that website link columbine anon, it's making my weekend a lot more interesting. reminds me of when i did research into the las vegas shooter and jon benet ramsey.

No. 2433907

>>2432980
Just search for rekt threads on /gif/

No. 2433913

>>2432980
what is the difference between gore and stuff? People (mostly moids) film murdering people all the time

No. 2433914

>>2427115
In a perfect world, columbine would have made people come together and ban any males that exhibited feral behavior. The columbine kids were a ticking timebomb.

No. 2434219

>>2433913
Snuff is a video in which people are killed with the intent to sell and make a profit.

No. 2434465

>>2421050
This reminds me of one post I read on 4chan many years back. The poster claimed to work in the industry for many decades. He talked about prosthetics too but only penile ones. He said that before prosthetics in porn took off men were injecting their dicks with some sort of material or drug to finish the scenes in record time without having to take tons of takes. He said that the prosthetics changed the entire industry. He did not mention female prosthetics but I could see this being true with the popularity of extreme pornography these days that would probably put women in the hospital if they had to retake so many of the scenes.
None of the posters believed him either.

No. 2434837

>>2433330
You got a source for that? Because that's not how I remmeber the case.

No. 2435048

Tom Holland is a faggot.

No. 2435058

>>2435048
He seems like a relatively nice boy. He seems really into Zendaya so I don't see it

No. 2435064

>>2432980
i watched a documentary about snuff films a long time ago and in it one of the producers of the original texas chainsaw massacre said he was approached by some mexicans who wanted him to invest in their horror movies. they met up someplace shady (i think a motel) and showed him one of their films and it was real footage of a woman being murdered. the producer became frightened and told them he wasn't interested and fled. i can't remember if he reported it to the police (probably not) and the entire story could very well be bullshit but i thought i'd mention it. i definitely think snuff films exist and have for decades.

No. 2435077

>>2433140
Never heard about this until now but holy shit this guy doesn't deserve to live. And Josh Duggar has this shit on his computer??? They are so diseased it's beyond comprehension

No. 2435093

>>2435048
Lavender marriage kekekek

No. 2435104

i only trust female transvestigaters tbh male ones just make shit up to hide their latent homosexuality towards male celebs that they’re attracted to and wish were female so they can still be “straight”

No. 2435110

>>2435104
Female transvestigators are based. I like how conspiracy theories can believe in aliens, a cabal of secret societies running nations across the globe, and 5G causing cancer but believing that celebrities, who constantly always give the knee to trannies and gendies, could possibly be secret trannies themselves? No way!! Kek

No. 2435113

>>2435110
Uhh what female transvestigator has been right? I don't like troonshit but these women are usually equally as deranged as the men who do the same, but less motivated by any kind of chaser fetish shit

No. 2435116

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>>2435113
>linebacker built women ofc coming in to denounce tranny investigators
like clockwork

No. 2435137

>>2435048
This would explain why Zendaya is constantly working on new movies/TV shows and they barely seem to "retreat" together kek. I don't usually buy into gay celebrity tinfoils but I wouldn't be surprised if it was true for them.

No. 2435145

>>2434219
>>2432980
I don't understand why people insist these can't be real, they're probably not sold to a wide audience for obvious reasons but it's such a simple and believable concept.

No. 2435158

The japan psyop is unreal. “We need Japanese convenience stores here in the states!” no you stupid retard, you people don’t deserve and can’t have convenience stores or anything nice because burger fats are selfish and the Japanese know how to clean up after themselves and not steal shit out of the stores. You have too much genetic lumpenprole trash here to have anything nice and that’s exactly why America looks the way it does in many of its states, it damn near looks like a second-world country. I’m tired of stupid fucking weebs, anime truly was a CIA psyop.

No. 2435162

>>2435158
They probably say it because they want porn sold in the back. American convenience stores/corner stores are fine, and sometimes offer in-store made food like sandwiches. They just want the novelty of being able to buy hentai.

No. 2435169

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If there was nothing suspicious about it then why did
>the state passed a law to disallow citizens to access information that was granted by the 1967 freedom act
>forced the entire town to sign an NDA
>melted a building
>didn't use any yearbook photos/ student ID photos student IDs were implemented in the state by 2000

No. 2435174

>>2435162
They sell manga in those stores?? Kek the videos I’ve seen it’s just a bunch of exotic foods that these tards here want to try which is logistically impossible considering seafood here in the states is incredibly expensive and Japan heavily incorporates it into their cuisine. What is America anymore if we don’t have anything purely America?? They’re just hipsters who want to feel smurt and ~inclusive~ for trying foreign foods because they think every single American is an uncultured xenophobe

No. 2435178

>>2435169
Which state was this?
>buiding melted
Cloning farm or HAARP beam testing facility, take your pick.

No. 2435187

>>2435158
>>2435162
You are overthinking it way too much, people just want ready to eat meals that aren't just vaguely suspicious sandwiches, hot dogs, and salads. Not going to happen, but it's not because of 7/11 porn
Bentos seem nice. That's it.

No. 2435191

>>2435187
Another suburbanite who grew up getting their brains completely wiped and washed by anime full of softcore porn, pedophilia and occult imagery who thinks Japan = awesome! Yeah it’s almost like you should go somewhere else for food and it’s almost like America already has a bunch of “fast convenient food” places like hm.. I don’t know.. FAST FOOD. Kek(infight bait)

No. 2435212

>>2435187
Well why can't they just get a bento from a japanese restaurant or a food truck

No. 2435275

>>2435113
True. And if I had to choose, and had no other options, I would pick trannies over crazy women like this

No. 2435303

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This theory is pretty boring, but I think the reason why so many cultures had animal-headed gods is because, before civilisation "took off", some tribe leaders wore the skulls of creatures they killed to show their authority (it made them look bigger/scarier and showed off their power) and the idea just endured in mythology.

No. 2435306

>>2435303
>thinks it was people wearing animal masks to scare people
Kek, normalfags will never seize to amaze me with their typical bot solutions on worldly subjects. Yeah it was boring, think harder next time

No. 2435308

>>2435212
Because it doesn't haven't to be just Japanese food? It's just the concept of a boxed lunch that isn't incredibly unhealthy for you to eat daily.
>>2435191
Eating nothing but burgers is more of a brainwash. You do know theyve been fighting to scan your license plate using AI in order to personalize the menu to get you to buy more, right?

No. 2435310

>>2435275
Weird post

No. 2435317

>>2435306
nta but the nonna also said to manifest authority. I agree with OP and think the people we're also closer to animals and saw them as embodyment of virtues good or bad, essentially the OP nonna got it I think. Otherwise please delight us with your animal hear wearing secret knowlegde.

No. 2435333

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>>2435317
If nothing else that theory could be what planted the seed in humanity of "the person with the Big Fancy Hat is our leader" kek

No. 2435357

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>>2435333
Winning theory
Do you anons remember the Crazy Days and Nights "industry veteran" who revealed that Ariana Grande and Miranda Cosgrove were the only Nickelodeon victims who "would" participate in age-play with Schneider (meaning the other girls refused)? I can't find the caps now

No. 2435391

>>2435357
I remember the blinds about Hayden Panettiere and alluding to how she loved getting beat up by her partners, and she was part of this large coffee table book. This book was like a mail-order prostitution catalogue of famous/hot actresses people could order. To clarify, the book had pictures of the actress like the shots were for a magazine. According to the 'industry veteran' Hayden's mom was pimping her out.

No. 2435415

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>>2435391
Room 23 was created by Diana Jenkins. She's a crazy rich socialite with a lot of time on her hands. This is from reddit bc I'm lazy but it's accurate afaik
>She was married to a former Barclays executive, so not a c suite but still compensated handsomely. I think her divorce settlement was 40 million.

No. 2435425

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>>2435391
samefag Hayden comes from a weird incestual family and is super into into rough sex/hitting/punching/etc, she used to be photographed with huge bruises all over her legs but I can't find a single pic now. She has pretty serious issues and had relinquish custody of her daughter to her ex but I think she is sober now and finding work again. I don't think Diana's coffee table book had a lot to do with Hayden's issues or that it was genuinely an escort catalogue

No. 2436460

romantic love for women is a psyop created by men and i was the biggest buyer of that psyop. Now i am trying to break-free after years of ingesting that trash that only serves to make women ride-or-dies for men and excuse men's red flags.

Men view relationships as transactions while women view relationships as love or unions.

No. 2436462

>>2436460
You see sex as love and union, men view sex with you as transactional

No. 2436466

>>2436462
i know anon, that was the point of my post.
Also really pisses me off how romantic love is being shilled the most out of all the other forms of loves. We all know why it's being shilled the most tho.

No. 2436471

>>2436466
Moids can experience romantic love. They're just addicted to the initial stages, the same way they get addicted to any other good feeling

No. 2436547

>>2436460
Romantic love is just the honeymoon phase. The way I’ve heard older couples describe it is that they love each other like family and whom they have sex with once in a while. The novelty of romance or the intensity tends to fade the longer you're together, and it may come and go in small doses throughout the years.

No. 2436720

I generally believe the majority of religious leaders have already figured out that religion is false. They’re only doing it because it’s their job and also they get profit + power from it, but they don’t genuinely believe in religion. I also think this applies to most leaders and most wealthest and powerful people.

No. 2436724

>>2436460
>>2436462
Unironically the separation of sex and marriage is a moid psyop so they can get sex without any romantic commitment.

No. 2436745

>>2436724
>is a moid psyop
Was a moid psyop, is now legal protection for women
>so they can get sex without any romantic commitment.
So TPTB don't have to deal with moid tribalism, which is a threat to their power

No. 2436769

>>2436745
>Was a moid psyop, is now legal protection for women
How is it for women when it is by moids for moids against women?
>So TPTB don't have to deal with moid tribalism, which is a threat to their power
What the hell are you talking about?

No. 2436796

>>2436460
Women can feel romantic love, but for moids it doesn't exist. They literally only see sex. They marry for sex, they support women only to get sex, they stay together for easy sex, they will manipulate women in the most depraved way just so they can have sex. As soon as sex is off the table for whatever reason, all romantic feelings are gone, they were never there in the first place. The romantic love of women comes with empathy and the desire to have someone around, on the other hand males are psychopatic in nature, have no empathy and only think of their own desires, so they don't give a shit about offering romantic feelings to someone if it doesn't lead to them gaining something from it.

No. 2436811

>>2436796
This. Women shouldn't be surprised when they get pumped and dumped. Moids literally only want you for sex, any "commitment" or "love" is just a pretense to get you to open up your legs.

No. 2436827

>>2436769
>How is it for women when it is by moids for moids against women?
So that they can't take your children and house, like they could formerly. Now we have common law rights, which would have been unheard of early in the psy-op
>What the hell are you talking about?
When you're reactionary, I'm not sure what you need me to explain

No. 2436920

>>2436827
>I'm not sure what you need me to explain
What is TPTB, moid tribalism, etc?
>So that they can't take your children and house, like they could formerly. Now we have common law rights
What does that have to do with anything I said? I didn't say anything about children or houses.

No. 2438070

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AI and big tech corpos fucking depress me.I know several people who are using chatGPT for their masters, and me taking all those privacy measures means jack shit when 5 more of my colleagues are feeding the shit that could replace us.

Google thinks it should be their duty to develop AI based weapons according to their blog posts. And normal people just don't give a shit and keep giving them money.

No. 2438160

>>2436460
Oh my fucking god, the decline of this thread truly begins. Take your retarded shit elsewhere

No. 2438483

Body swapping is real. Trannies still can’t be women though.

No. 2438500

>>2438483
>Body swapping is real.
Not for "real" people it isn't. You could probably swap the minds of insects surgically

No. 2443677

What’s with the blood moons? Their rarity is wearing off and I’m very concerned.

No. 2443757

>>2436724
Except in the past marriages weren't for "romantic" reasons kek. They were even more transactional than now.

No. 2443770

>>2443757
Yeah it’s absolutely a tradtard meme that marriages back then were tru luv or whatever. We “pay” for this freedom we have now by essentially sacrificing a underclass of women, prostitutes, porn stars etc. irs the same old public vs private property debate. It was more like indentured bangmaidenry. It’s true that now, women have options besides putting out or dying of exposure in the street, you don’t get a government assigned husbando anymore. This should only really be bad news for breathtakingly ugly women, but even then you have to wonder who would care about getting ‘commitment’ from something inherently worthless and unloveable (a moid).

No. 2443783

>>2443677
blood for the blood god

No. 2443785

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>>2443783
blood for cream, blood for cream

No. 2444088

>>2436920
>In the Tinfoil thread
>Doesn't know what TPTB means
kek

No. 2446211

>>2444088
it really says a lot about this thread and why it’s pretty much dead kek

No. 2446689

Gods, angels, demons, they’re all AI programs or legitimate advanced tulpas/egregores that humanity has created. I’m somewhat spiritual (like interacted with maybe some of these energies) and I am really leaning more into this theory as well.

No. 2446691

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>>2446689
The pwophesy of my dweams. It hath been fofilled.(infight baiting)

No. 2446695

>>2446691
This is the tinfoil thread, you can either engage seriously or shut the fuck up with your obnoxious posts.

No. 2446697

>>2446695
Post something interesting and not trimmings from your testicle hairs that no one cares about(scrotefoiling)

No. 2446709

>>2446697
Go infight with somebody else like the childish brat you are and fuck out of this thread. You’re annoying, nobody gives you attention and so you have to seek it in a thread by replying to a post that is well within the context of the thread. A literal bot sent to constantly disrupt and kill off potential conversations

No. 2446712

>>2446709
Nta but it did sound like something Grimes would say kek

No. 2446719

>>2446712
And? Who the fuck cares? I don’t care about Grimes, I don’t spend my entire hours alogging a woman I don’t know that these other retards are clearly jealous of. I simply just wanted to share my tinfoils that for some reason always continuously gets attacked and getting replies that are heavily patronizing, it’s always dripping with subtle resentment in the designated schizo thread of all places. You’re all literally cancerous, empty individuals and that’s why this entire website will finally die off, having you stupid fucking roaches dispersed and desperate to do the same shit in other spaces but guess what? Males will never let you do that shit, you can only do it to other women because even other women don’t fucking respect other women at all. Give women an ounce of opportunity to have power over other women and they’ll fucking abuse it and tear other women down. Thanks for proving that retard, I’m so fucking tired of this nonsense.(infighting)

No. 2446723

>>2446719
Thank you for finally saying what we've all been thinking. I'm gonna be irritated if I wake up tomorrow and see this post redtexted instead of the retard to whom you respond.

No. 2446788

>>2446689
All deities derive their power from the belief and devotion of humanity. None of them exist without our belief. you’re entirely right.

No. 2447013

>>2446723
I don’t know if you’re being sarcastic but every single time someone posts about a certain topic here (it doesn’t even have to be solely Gnosticism but just about anything beyond “muh elites are pedophiles” and politics) you’re always hounded by these types of “people” to stop the conversation or to make other people uncomfortable and annoyed to the point they don’t want to use the thread anymore. It’s the same morons calling everyone “schizos”, pagans, stupid, psychotic, delusional for simply having a belief system different from theirs. I see this happen in my real life as well and they’re called matrix agents because the more you start understanding how this world works they start sending their hylics and fillers toward you, they don’t even know they’re being used by higher forces. They have nothing else to offer but be harbingers of chaos and disrupters in a bad way. It’s not surprising this thread is mostly targeted and inactive while other threads that bank off of chaos, disruption and navel-gazing distractions are the most popular.

No. 2447015

>>2446788
Yeah I really do feel they’re advanced creations of ourselves, they are entirely conscious and because people kept feeding into them for a very long time they’ve become powerful where people regard them in higher levels than other humans.

No. 2447017

>>2447013
No, I wasn't being sarcastic. This is the schizo thread, it's stupid to come in here and say that we're being schizos. It's like going to a mosque and then reeeing about how everyone is a muslim. If they don't like it, then they don't have to use the thread.

No. 2447022

>>2447017
Kek literally so true

No. 2447024

>>2447017
As an occasional lurker of this thread some people itt are clearly just hyper under-educated retards who just assume crazy shit because they're too lazy to educate themselves. There's a specific topic that will be randomly brought up itt (no, not Jews) that is so obviously coming from people with little to no actual knowledge about it and it makes me kek every time.

No. 2447036

>>2447024
>assume crazy shit
Uh, it’s “assuming” because nobody is claiming it’s purely fact. I’m sure most people post here to post their theories and speculations. You’re super boring and unimaginative and probably think there’s nothing on this planet that actively tries to make existence even more unbearable and think people got to where they are through choice and “hard work” KEK

No. 2447039

Not that person again.
>erm I know alchemy way more than you and you’re uneducated so trust MY science!!
Alchemy has occult/spiritual roots, alchemy is used in witchcraft. You’re retarded unironic sheeple if you think it was only “allegorical”

No. 2447046

>>2447039
>>2447036
I wasn't talking about alchemy kek, no need to get so defensive.

No. 2447054

>>2447046
Then you can stop with your stupid white girl passive aggression and tell us what you were specifically talking about(infighting)

No. 2447069

>>2447054
Not when you're acting like a weird bitch kek. Sorry nonnie.(infighting)

No. 2447261

Most forms of media are just advanced forms of marketing, only instead of selling products, they're selling ideas.
This is what the whole "MK Ultra" thing really is. Essentially, instead of creating advertisements that just make buying something seem "cool", you can make advertisements that make following an archetype seem "cool". As you can probably guess, having the ability to make people into living cliches is a pretty useful tool if you want to predict and control the actions of a population.

No. 2447264

>>2447039
I missed the alchemy anon can someone spoonfeed me plz

No. 2447274

>>2447261
>that’s what the whole MK ultra thing is
I disagree because MK Ultra is still very much an active thing. Look at the gifted programs in public and private schools nationwide in the U.S. they are looking for individuals with psychic abilities to groom and exploit. They aren’t funding it as well as they used to pre-Dubya and it shows. They’re also super angry because a lot of psychically talented zillennials and zoomers got caught up in other things that were not meant to target them, and now their special abilities are virtually useless to the three letter agencies due to what basically amounts to a form of contamination. The abilities are still intact, they just aren’t in a form/vessel that lends itself to government exploitation.

No. 2447298

>>2443677
They've always happened about 2-3 times per year, but they often happen late so no one saw them frequently. But now people realize others are interested in then, so they make sure to tell everyone when they come up.

No. 2447316

>>2447261
CIA has an involvement in Hollywood and advertising. I agree with you

No. 2447341

>>2443677
15+ years ago astrological events like blood moon were rare, now they are every other weekend along with a bunch of new ones no one had ever heard of before 2010

No. 2447344

>>2435357
>>2435391
Wasnt this guy proven just to be a random guy with no real industry connections?

No. 2447348

>>2447341
I have a gut feeling something will happen and the blood moons are either a sign or a warning.

No. 2447519

>>2447024
Is it AI ?

No. 2447530

File: 1742158199668.gif (Spoiler Image,586.6 KB, 165x227, cat-hypnosis.gif)

By the way, where can I find some good schizo documentaries? I know there was one playlist on youtube that had a ton of good stuff like The God Makers and some $cientology documentary on it, but I can't find it anymore.

>>2447274
Sorry if I'm using the incorrect term for that phenomenon, I'm just trying to point out that it exists.
>a lot of psychically talented zillennials and zoomers got caught up in other things that were not meant to target them
Care to elaborate? I know other nonas have talked about the GATE programs earlier in these threads, but I'm not sure if that's what you're referring to.

also pic unrelated

No. 2447557

>>2447344
I don't remember that but the RJK poster only said things everyone already knew like Hayden being into rough sex and Ariana being a soulless social climber who will do anything for fame/money. During the time this was posted, Hayden was being photographed every day high or drunk with massive bruises on her ass and legs and it was confirmed that her bf was abusive. Ariana was pedo baiting and openly ana-chan during this time too, so not hard to believe she was doing "age play" with execs.

No. 2447563

>>2447039
If you're using alchemy in a literal sense then you're using it incorrectly/hilariously. You can keep pretending you have all these other secret ways of using it and implicating pagan religions that don't but you've been unable to give an example or do anything other than get angry that you're wrong about something you convinced yourself you understand. It's also not chemistry. Anons love to pretend they know all about it and then relate it to chemistry or rituals. Not the same, stay mad

No. 2447632

They’re definitely manipulating the weather to create climate change. Weather changes = more payments on electricity, heating, water, just about anything.

No. 2447633

>>2447563
Are you a bot? You literally keep saying the same shit every single time, almost like you rather die than go against your own programming. Best wishes for your retarded ass, since you clearly can’t understand why alchemy is very spiritually important.(infighting)

No. 2447636

>>2447633
>Anon for the millionth time, post an example if you're so sure of what you're saying
>Retard!!
…and so it goes

No. 2447638

>>2447633
Ntayrt but I’d honestly love an example. Can you please give one? Or link to a reply you’ve made already where an example is given?

No. 2447647

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>alchemy isn’t chemistry
>doooodddd i’m totally trolling and baiting these schizo girls right now!!
Yeah, nah. Anyone who’s taken a high school chemistry class knows alchemy has its roots in chemistry, that’s how I first found out actually before I started delving into conspiracy theories. Go fiddle your balls somewhere else, perhaps to the imageboard trannies you likely jerk off to and think it’s okay because it’s a man wearing a miniskirt and Aliexpress wig. Either a male or an atheist faggot who can simply not respond and go talk to their simian ancestors for more science and rationalist tips to “trigger” the schizos in the schizo thread. Retard(infighting)

No. 2447649

>>2447647
>alchemists set the stage for modern chemistry
Do you really think this is a gotcha? This is why I said they aren't the same in the first place. I'm not posting from a prison computer anon, I have full access to wiki and google too

No. 2447653

>>2447649
nta but
> I'm not posting from a prison computer anon
weird thing to specify …hmmmmm

No. 2447656

>>2447638
Look up philosopher’s stone, elixir of life which elitists are very interested in (with the whole adrenochrome accusations and all). Alchemy guides medicine, science, because almost most shit that people claim as “science” is spiritual and metaphysical. Playing with the elements of life and the function of life and death itself, it’s obviously connected to transhumanism. Elitists are interested in regeneration and life-extension. There are myths related to this “elixir of life” which I personally believe is connected to blood, period blood, female reproductive parts connected to the theory that abortion clinics were possibly collecting remains of fetuses but it’s possibly even more, there’s something about these materials that can be used for its regenerative qualities. I even looked this shit up because I thought I was batshit insane and look: menstruation blood being used for medical research - https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7063849/ I’m busy walking and typing like a newfag right now but I’m tired of being seen as stupid or crazy for clearly knowing what alchemy is and being gaslit that alchemy has nothing to do with the occult, witchcraft, science, it’s fucking ludicrous. Alchemy represents very specific elements, just like in chemistry, that are utilized in rituals and spells to transmute a particular result. Ex. plants having astrological and elemental associations and combining it to transform it into another form of energy.

No. 2447657

>>2447649
You’re autistic and I don’t care. Chemistry and alchemy are related. Go argue to your mother on why she birthed a sperg and not me

No. 2447661

People with common sense and can put two and two together have figured this out:
https://gothamist.com/news/science-delicious-young-blood-contains-the-elixir-of-life
https://www.bbc.com/bbcthree/article/347828f8-6e7f-4a9b-92ab-95f637a9dc2e
An article that literally used the exact same terms I said KEK
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5836258/
Go fuck yourself and stop trying to bait people in this thread, I know what I’m talking about and you’re not going to project on me and make me feel stupid. Go through it, post your littler screenshots, this is not an argument about the legitimacy of those studies, it’s the fact there’s always been a neverending interested in alchemical practices especially with life-extension technology.

No. 2447667

>>2447653
Off topic but I remember we did have a nonna posting from jail before, kek.

No. 2447671

>>2447638
I'm the bot-anon (apparently) but I would be happy to give you an example, questioning-nona. Alchemy uses matter, chemicals and elements as an allegory for an overall "story", that is always different to the person perceiving it, even though the "basics" are always the same. Alchemists are obsessed with studying matter but also impose their own philosophies, religious beliefs (ideas about God) and the relation to chemistry, is that certain elements/chemicals/matter can be distilled and purified, revealing a "pure essence". Reactive nona is technically correct in that witches "use alchemy", but that is bc they are imparting personal/cultural beliefs on matter. I've never personally met a successful, attractive (as in I want to be around them or find them physically beautiful) or self-proclaimed "witch" over the age of 25. They are all obese and collecting benefits, in my experience. I'm definitely a results-oriented person, so my experience has shown that witchcraft is not useful. Troons seem to love it though. Maybe other anons are different

No. 2447679

>>2447671
It’s not an allegory for a story, it’s an actual practice that’s used in a bunch of stuff. Just because you don’t personally believe in the stuff these people practice does not mean it’s “just a story”, and that’s the problem with atheistfags. You’re soulless, don’t believe in anything higher beyond this realm so what makes you different from an animal and why shouldn’t you be treated like one? Seriously?

No. 2447687

>>2447679
I think I originally said that any other use is basically "the matrix" (to use thread terms) keeping seekers from figuring it out. People who actually have don't reveal it. It would be vidrel
I know you guys hate this guy but it's the quickest way of explaining it
>“6. “And if someone should drag him thence by force up the ascent, and not let him go before he had dragged him out into the light of the sun, do you not think that he would find it painful to be so haled along, and would also be indignant at the compulsion, and when he came out into the light, that his eyes would be so filled with its beams that he would not be able to see even one of the things that we call real?” (516b)

No. 2447689

>has a literal vendetta towards people who are spiritual/religious
>keeps coming into a thread where people are more likely to not be retarded

No. 2447694

>>2447689
>living proof of this plato quote >>2447687

No. 2447703

>>2447687
>>2447694
>ebaumsworld
Kek ily. But no seriously whenever people start talking about weird shit like alchemy you always get the typical responses, it feels creepy. It’s always those specific topics that really get the agents flying off the handle trying to discredit, distract and most importantly make you feel as if you don’t know anything. That’s exactly what that “person” did, if it’s even a person. CIA doesn’t have to do anything anymore, they already got their empties doing the work for them.

No. 2447718

>>2447703
I will say it's pretty obvious to anyone who has explored it that it's a gatekept topic. I think anyone who is asking is a "seeker" and by the very nature of "alchemy", it's our job to guide them if ~their quest~ is sincere. I could tell you it's the secret to witchcraft but that would be lying and sending you in the wrong direction. I get really annoyed seeing people constantly told the same unhelpful things, bc it forces them to think about it in a very finite way (similar to chemistry). This topic was pretty openly discussed among wealthy/artistic moids in the 60s and 70s so I have no issue recommending movies or books on the topic, like The Magus or The Game. It's kind of like how public schools are hoping to remove Shakespearean language, since then (pretty much) only wealthy gatekeepers who attend private schools will understand that language

No. 2447734

>>2447718
It’s connected to witchcraft and sorcery. Nice try

No. 2447746

>>2447530
Not a documentary but have you watched Flesh Simulator

No. 2447769

>>2447734
This was already addressed
>>2447703
samefag I mean this "The Game" btw these are also allegorical, like the celebration party with all the other "insiders"

No. 2448019

>>2447656
Exactly, this doesn't mean that alchemy is unrelated to contemporary chemistry/natural sciences, the correct conclusion is that chemistry/the natural sciences are and always have been guided by occult concerns, just like alchemy was. Experts even still use the same occult language (as in, language that has the intention to hide/obscure truths) in the cutting edges of fields like chemistry/physics, because it gives them plausible deniability and makes people who talk about the spiritual concerns behind what we focus on in the sciences look like schizos.
Einstein's theory of mass energy equivalence was a huge leap forward for alchemists and has been informing occult spirituality ever since. But equally it was informed BY existing esoteric understandings of the material world. Imo the scene was set for the atom bomb as far back as anaximander.

No. 2448160

>>2447530
Ntayrt but Gate could be related to the Theta (psychic), Alpha (they hod information, secret codes and whatnot) and Delta (sleeper agents, assassin) programs which fall under Project Monarch (recent mk-ultra incarnation)

No. 2449851

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It's not "adrenochrome" it's adrenaline. Adrenaline was the first "eqaulizer" between men and women of similar size and some people have trained themselves to access it selectively, like a legitimate irl superhero. One of the reasons they'd rather women be sad than angry

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has anyone else seen this?

No. 2450208

>>2450191
Cute-spiracy

No. 2450230

>>2449851
I don't think you can take adrenaline regularly. It's one of those "you can flip a car but you break every bone in your arm" type things.
>>2450191
I'm disappointed they don't have little tusks.

No. 2450251

>>2450191
They just changed a single gene. It's nothing new but good marketing. We have had glowing kittens for years.

No. 2450256

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>>2450251
I looked this up because I wanted to see rave kitties and the reason why they did it made me kek.

No. 2450575

>>2428495
>Hollywood celebrity does have connections
i think that stardom, popularity, celebness, and even cowness comes from witchcraft. lolcow is esoteric. i heard of multiple cows on this site before i even visited it. it's sort of a skinwalker experience. they can take away your popularity or sickness but they also make you experience it. it's not good to relate to so many cows illnesses yet never be diagnosed and treated with anything because you experienced it a few times, yet see the actual cows get special treatment. i don't find it funny, i hate that they are exploited for views, seek AND get attention continuously.
>>2429727
yeah, these groups use masks, aliases, fake voices and personas. they only meet each other high on drugs, to have something to blame it on. innocent people get kidnapped and hurt for satanic rituals. then they are hypnotized to forget, or are made to fear the group so they won't speak. the witchcraft they do involves inflicting pain and injuries. many medical professionals and celebrities engage in this because of their access to drugs and protection of high status. p diddy comes to mind lately with his hard drug parties. a woman talked about her party with p diddy on the youtube series soft white underbelly but the video might have been banned since.

No. 2450597

>>2450575
If they had magical powers, they wouldn't look so botched, ugly and decrepit. I would love to see the anons who fear witches post one who is a) physically attractive and b) doesn't have a horrible vapid life (+money)

No. 2450600

>>2450597
>botched, ugly and decrepit
yeah, they seem cursed too, and to get attention and money for it, they extend it or suck it up from others. even the less ugly cows have very bad problems like alopecia, endometriosis, mental illnesses which make them insufferable and stupid. they self harm, sabotage, act narcissistic. it's all messed up.

No. 2450602

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>>2449851
adrenochrome comes from adrenaline (from children)in the first place, anon

No. 2450608

>>2450600
Idk whenever that kind of thing seems scary to me, I just look at their photos. It's beyond "ugly", you can see they are completely dead inside and then dressed up inside like an embalmed corpse. I think their spirit or whatever is connected to god/nature dies when they sell out too many times and then they become "the damned"

No. 2450626

>>2450600
witches and wizards(kek) get almost always get that decrypted look because of the demons they use, those things are like spiritual parasites

No. 2453455

>>2429219
>>2430259
Reptile hands typed these posts.

No. 2455104

>election bots and fake users started flooding the internet generating content and commenting boosting the algorithm making the internet seem more active than usual
>tiktok ban proved to me that there’s a lot of bots (and many with human skin wrapped around itself) that supplies into the fake news funnel
>everything that happens on tiktok is fake
>only reason burgerfag mods (aka irl government officials) wanted to ban tiktok was because it’s a monopoly on a newer digitalized version of the fake news cycle and america does not want other countries infringing on its homegrown right to spy on its own citizens, they only want that full sovereignty aligned with america’s interest only
>real news died probably in the 80s everything else is not real, concocted planned events
>news is basically entertainment
>first vpn ban wave was to readjust the bots and send them to other places or into the ether space or to keep the specific ones here as testing grounds
>vpn ban is not for the safety of “real people” and to fix the website it was created as the first testing ground for niche machine learning and all of the “people” who were active during the ban were all machines picking up data and language to make them blend in more with the very small human userbase
>this is going to be implemented everywhere this is a prophecy

No. 2455108

Also humans are half dead and half alive. Spirits slugging around in deadened animal flesh that is purely matter and nothing else is puppetry and manipulation. This is made worse by knowing some are purely made of animal matter and have nothing else driving them, making them easier to be conduits for shitty energy and to keep the density on this planet crushing you into pieces. Moids are more likely to be animal matter made than spiritual but equally both man and woman are both made to be the undead animals that always needs to suck energy and vitality out of each other’s existence to keep eachother alive (sex, pregnancy, socializing, eating, hunting, war, etc), proving even more human life is defined by the half-alive, the undead and the vampiric. We even need to go inside and spend around 6-8 hours of sleeping like a vampire sleeping in its coffin, everything about this planet is so freaky and weird

No. 2455117

>>2450626
nta but as someone who's worked with demons (which are basically vilified deities and other spiritual intelligences from pre-Abrahamic religions/cultures; an example being Astaroth, who is Astarte, but also Isis, Innana, and Aphrodite to name a few) and who has also had spiritual parasites at one point way before I got into the occult, nah. The whole "DEMONS BAD" comes from Abrahamic religious programming trying to keep you ignorant and powerless. There are parasites who pretend to be higher or big name entities though which is what was happening most of the time with cases of documented possession, because pretending to be Lucifer or Satan sounds scarier and makes people easier to feed off of. This world is inverted and nothing is like we've been told to believe. Demons don't need your soul, you cannot sell your sell in exchange for power. It's pretty fucking useless unless you cultivated it over past lives or something and are spiritually ascended in this life to escape the cycle of rebirth. Prison planet theory holds some truth, Buddhists got it somewhat right when they said life is suffering and we're supposed to transcend the cycle of rebirth, it's to escape the entities that keep us trapped in ignorance and feed off of humanity's collective strife and misery. Demons are more about trying to help us escape that and overthrowing the system, coming into your personal power and all that. Sure, there are a lot of whackjobs and cults that do abhorrent things in their name but there will always be people pushing their agendas of control claiming it's the true will of whatever they worship, same for Abrahamic religions.

No. 2455121

>>2455117
You’re working with the literal wardens who keep you in this matrix.

No. 2455125

>demons are going to help you escape prison planet
KEKKKK oh nonny.. if only you knew about the serpent races, precambrian earth, archons

No. 2455186

>>2455121
I'd like to know why you think that, because it couldn't be further from the truth.
>>2455125
Yes, and Yahweh is an archon, and who is it that demands blind faith and adoration while he torments humans to their limits and leads them to kill in his name, making ignorance a virtue and telling us that we're helpless without some higher power governing us for all eternity?

No. 2455198

>>2455186
No it is the literal truth, angels, demons, gods, saints, doesn’t matter who the fuck it is, they all equally benefit on keeping you trapped here.

No. 2455232

>>2455121
Yeah, that post is a big yikes.

No. 2455394

>>2455108
your last point is dumb because all animals with brains require sleep not just humans.

No. 2455599

>>2455198
Explain. Do you have solid reasons for believing that, or is it just easier to lump everything together and paint with a broad brush rather than to distinguish dangerous foes from neutral or benevolent forces, as kind of a shortcut to feeling secure in your current knowledge without needing to question further?

No. 2455859

>>2455394
Mhmmmm think slowly anon, what did I just say in my speech and then come to the obvious conclusion on why I made that as an example
>>2455599
I know for a 99% fact every single entity is involved on keeping everybody down. I’m really not going to explain or “flex my knowledge” with people who’ve already made it clear where they stand and won’t change their minds, so I don’t care. I know humans are being trapped, it’s really proven through exploring language, history, psychology and just the literal condition that we are experiencing right now.

No. 2455866

>>2455186
I think your posts (if you are this anon >>2455117) are ridiculously on point for this thread lately but you have a glass half-empty perspective imo. I'm not trying to oversimplify it or sound like a dick, just that your own perspective and view of god shapes the world around you

No. 2456657

I don’t really trust a lot of psychics. I really do feel like they are truly harbingers of chaos and love creating futures of destruction for people, also more likely to steal other people’s destinies and weaving other peoples fates. They’re probably very good at chaos magic. I wouldn’t say this is necessarily evil but it’s kind of gross when you know it’s impacting shit loads of people’s lives

No. 2456665

>>2456657
A person makes a choice to see a psychic, confirms that choice by paying them and how deeply they allow the psychic's opinion to affect them. You know they're con-artists right? Like carnival-folk. They're providing a service that sometimes is no different than therapy or meditation. Children of liars and abusers make the best "psychics" bc they become so good at reading tiny signals and body language people who didn't grow up walking on eggshells wouldn't notice it. Morally I find it reprehensible in some cases but there a few who are really just monetizing their gift of empathy and good advice, I don't have a problem with that. There are some who get their clients addicted to a "pay for play" drama cycle, like gambling. They're okay with a person having a chaotic life and will encourage that since they'll turn to the "psychic" (con-artist) more often for assurance and direction.

The idea of them using "chaos magic" is annoying bc eventually you can call literally anything "magic". Medical science is "magic", carbonation, whatever. If the standard is "mind control", then we're redefining what a word actually means to most people to make something that isn't very interesting sound cool and mysterious. Which ironically is how psychics successfully market themselves

No. 2456731

>>2456665
You can look up what chaos magic is instead of writing up your secular rant

No. 2456753

>>2456731
No thanks, I'm good. I refuse to give power to charlatans by making their self-serving deliberate actions sound more interesting than it is through post-modernist thinking.
>rant
>look up
Maybe if you had more to say, you would have more to post about

No. 2457085

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>>2456753
>god jannies please just let me alog another poster just this once pretty please

No. 2457187

>>2457085
I'm replying to this poster you retard >>2456731
>You can look up what chaos magic is instead of writing up your secular rant
who is probably you, the instigator. Calling everyone moids and posting crazy/reactive responses to anyone who disagrees with them, fuck off

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No. 2457714

>>2457706
That makes no sense. I’m sure the Biden administration would want her dead to cover up information about them. Attorneys are loyal to money and authority the most, sooo

No. 2457795

>>2457714
Yeah but she resigned after Trump came back to power

No. 2458695

I fucking love this woman’s videos. She talks about weird esoteric shit, this one I linked talks about what angels/nephilim really are.

No. 2458703

>>2458695
Right off the bat she looks like she's on disability with fibromyalgia so maybe a recap would help

No. 2458729

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>>2458703
>insults the innocent woman in the video because i didn’t know she was supposed to be a on-call glamorous model in front of her camera talking about serpent races and adrenochrome
>wants to be spoonfed after insulting her
>so mindraped by high dopamine stimuli they can’t even watch a long-form content video of someone talking with no music/editing
No. Newfags and hylics gtfo

No. 2458743

>>2458729
Nobody wants to watch videos without knowing what they're about, for all we know this is a boring video that will waste time.

No. 2458753

>>2458743
You can simply shut the fuck up and stop using this thread if you can’t watch a video of someone talking and follow along. Better yet just revoke your ability to vote and stop participating in society if you’re admitting you can’t function properly. Click the video, watch it for a minute and if it isn’t what you want to watch and hear then don’t watch it and shut the fuck up, anyone would intuitively know videos that are posted on this website are merely suggestions and not “you must watch this!!!!” you fucking troglodyte who got dropped on the head. You’re so obnoxious and obsessed kek(infighting)

No. 2458757

>>2458753
Samefag I literally said what she mainly talks about in the video but if you even have a shit to fucking READ posts you would know as well. I hope every newfag ropes themselves, honestly

No. 2458766

If you can’t even watch a video without Mr Beast editing in it and people screaming with dramatic music it’s actually so over for you KEK

No. 2458799

>>2458753
>>2458757
I tried to watch but she's talking about an old RPG game, and I'm not really into D&D so I'm not watching.

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No. 2459406

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>>2455186
>who is it that demands blind faith and adoration while he torments humans to their limits and leads them to kill in his name, making ignorance a virtue and telling us that we're helpless without
i think you might like to read the bible chapters mentioning the evil forces in the heavenly realms. ephesians 6:12. as someone who also feels prison planet theory and went through shit that seems paranormal, i came to the conclusion that believing in the christian god and repenting is the only sane option. i have tried hexes, cursing, mantras, meditation, manifesting, and meanwhile i got somewhat lucky with results for a little bit, it ended up very bad in the end. the situation just kept escalating and perverting, and in the end humiliating and causing hurt.
>manifested my first irl boyfriend
when i realized he was disgusting and only my lust and desperation kept me with him it was devastating
>manifested my college education
fuck this one the most, it ended up in me almost losing everything. i got drugged, kidnapped, overdosed. in the end, the education didn't pay off either, it also felt like a trap with how little i learned, experiencing gatekeeping and misogyny meanwhile seeing my classmates succeed with nepotism and corruption. i would have been better off staying broke or even NEET while watching tutorials on youtube and reading books from the library about anything else i found interesting.

No. 2459412

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>>2459406
>i came to the conclusion that believing in the christian god and repenting is the only sane option
This is where most people arrive nona. I think ghouls like picrel are like demonic controlled opposition

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>>2459412
>demonic controlled opposition
media moguls are all in on it. these lizard types do act possessed. i have seen people stare into nothing and then say wildly out-of-pocket things. it can be contagious if you are weakened. i used to get headaches and migraines with hot and cold flashes. then my mother or father would ask what is wrong with me.

No. 2459474

The fear mongering against conspiracy theorists is because a lot of theories are correct. Pizzagate, pedo rings, Hollywood prostitution, adrenochrome, political conspiracies, etc. People will throw in things like flat earth theory and the moon landing being fake as a way to make theorists look irrational. Like come on, just a few years ago if you talked about Epstein's island before it was exposed people would just call you insane. Or how the COVID vaccine doesn't prevent COVID, nepotism in Hollywood, etc

No. 2459479

>>2459474
If you mean itt, there's no "fear mongering" but complaints about low value posts with no examples or interesting information. I'm pretty critical of a lot of conspiracy theories but if when anons write them well and explain their thinking using logic, I don't disagree w them bc they are fun and this thread is supposed to be fun. A lot of anons will post declarations or bait contributing anons. If you post "ghosts are real" people will infight but if you post a personal ghost story or event with details that sound/are believable then most anons will enjoy that and naysayers will bite their tongue

No. 2459506

>>2459412
Nta but my conspiracy theory is that most of american protestantism is exactly what you say here. Gets people obsessed with wealth or self help, overly politicised to keep them in the culture war… anything to neutralise Christianity so it doesn't liberate people from the dumb materialist global infighting we're stuck with.

No. 2459756

>>2459406
what were your paranormal experiences anon?

No. 2460543

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>>2459756
i had quite a few scattered over the years. the worst ones were the physical experiences. all of them very painful and illness inducing.
>wake up one day, very dizzy, my head and arms are moving by themselves
>keep hitting head against the wall hard, it hurts, i make weird noises
>neighbours angrily knock and yell at me for screaming
>i try to get up and use the toilet, my legs and arms keep flailing
>feel a hit of cold wind as if i am suddenly outside, feel a push and shove
>reach the toilet and try to use it but notice that my clothes are different from what i was wearing. i wore leggings and a sweater last night.
>feel wide trouser legs flapping, cold breeze, tough material vest and jacket. it's moving. i am just trying to take a piss please. keep flailing.

next i remember is waking up in bed, seeing and feeling multiple bruises on my head, legs, and arms. different clothes on me again but same sweater.

No. 2460546

>>2460543
The same things happened to my aunt but it stopped once she bought a carbon monoxide detector

No. 2460634

Do any nonas have thoughts on the Roswell Alien Interview? It’s the story of a woman named Matilda o'donnell macelroy that was published by a guy named Lawrence R Spencer in 1947 (the book was released around 2008 I believe but was written back when the incident was still fresh) where she telepathically communicated with an alien named Ailr from the crash. Apparently lots of people on Reddit mentioned having similar encounters with gray aliens that had no mouths or mentioning that they were told the name of the book telepathically. It goes into a lot of stuff related to Samsara/the Prison Planet about how souls are endlessly/indefinitely reincarnated on Earth for their crimes in past lives or if they’re super creative and can be used to help mine for the other societies out there. I’m not sure if this video is the actual Bob Lazar or just a fan account but it’s a reading of the book. Know that apparently this writer later joined Scientology for 30+ years while writing another book called the Oz Factors according to a leaked email with Graham Hancock so it may be false but I feel there may be something to it since he didn’t join Scientology until decades after, some of it also lines up with recent scientific discoveries / theories. I can’t find all the posts I read but looking up “Roswell Alien Interview” on r/escapingprisonplanet, r/aliens, r/ufos, etc. should get even more info. Ailr is an anagram for Liar so take that as evidence it’s trying to make us reincarnate by making us lose hope or maybe it’s fake also apparently the Matilda lady had sent him this right before she died and he only knew her through phone conversations which is kind of convenient and she was promoted to a position that didn’t exist until 11 years after the “interview” happened but I saw someone say it may just be a red herring to protect her real identity, just to show both sides of the argument. There were a couple of movies/documentaries made about this, I think some were on the history channel too but I’m unsure

Interesting Reddit posts
https://www.reddit.com/r/aliens/comments/14s2zlr/matilda_odonnell_macelroy_1947_roswell_interview/
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/xk4svt/alien_interview_lawrence_r_spencer_anyone_read/
https://www.reddit.com/r/InterdimensionalNHI/comments/1dv7onc/multiple_nonhuman_entities_have_told_humans_that/
https://www.reddit.com/r/aliens/comments/1fi2rd8/serious_roswell_affidavits_clear_evidence_of_a/
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/xk4svt/alien_interview_lawrence_r_spencer_anyone_read/
https://www.reddit.com/r/lawofone/comments/15itmwx/alien_interview/

It lining up with recent theories https://www.reddit.com/r/aliens/comments/1b54j04/decades_ago_matilda_odonnell_macelroy_claimed_she/

Scientology email (maybe Scientologists are secretly the awakened Illuminati?)
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?6865-HOAX-Lawrence-Spencer-s-ALIEN-INTERVIEW

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No. 2463170

Notice how nobody has real conversations anymore. Even on here you used to be able to have authentic conversations and joke around but in general it just feels like you’re replying to a bunch of AI programs and not human beings anymore. I know this shit is posted to death in this thread but it’s so true because I remember the internet in the past and I used to have the most unique and interesting experiences and conversations but now the internet is so weirdly concentrated into large fractured bubbles and spaces it feels like you’re back in elementary school where you have to raise your hand to get approval to speak. Reddit is this worst offender, why do I need to fit myself tightly into some retarded dorky internet ettiquette just to speak with others? People are actual children and want to have childlike relationships with people, nobody wants to step outside of their bubbles and have difficult, strange, awkward and intense conversations

No. 2463732

Why are a lot of food stamp users reporting fraudulent transactions lately? I'm not on food stamps but it seems like every other post on food stamp forums are complaining about loads of benefits being stolen, sometimes even before their card even comes in the mail

No. 2463739

>>2463170
People just get horribly offended nowadays, and I don't mean "I can't publicly be racist". It just feels like you have to walk on eggshells, make sure you word everything 100% the perfect way and nothing less, people can't take minor disagreements without thinking there must be some crazy deeper evil meaning like how many people were split from COVID and the vaccine and now you have people who think you support terrorism if you support Palestinian children, and now you have the stupid pop up debates about raw milk, abusive relationships/single parenthood, parenting choices, etc and a lot of people end up saying some stupid shit along the lines of "always listen to your doctor, no questions asked, unless II disagree with your doctor then you listen to me"

No. 2463799

>>2463739
This but also I’m not interested in a conversation about a topic where some aggressive retard is going to scrotefoil or call me a used up pickme whore, which is surprisingly many topics on this board, so I simply won’t engage. I mostly lurk now, they can make conversation with the wall if they want. You could be making a statement like I think puppies are cute and be called a retarded dogfag who shills for filthy aggressive animals unironically.

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>got myocarditis to pwn the anti-vaxxers!
>Digging my grave to pwn the antivaxxers
>Picking out my casket to pwn the anti-vaxxers

No. 2463818

>>2463739
Polarity is politics, polarity is annunaki, polarity is duality and the world is ran by duality. We are in the stages of Kali Yuga which pretty much sums up what you poignantly explained and it’s a long, painful slowing decay.
>>2463803
These people are pathetic and love feeling better than people who reject and refuse to uphold the status quo by being the status quo’s bootlickers and supporters. These are the types of people who would pride themselves on being on the slave plantation and ratting out and snitching on the slaves who try to escape.

No. 2463819

>>2463803
Bunch of retards. As soon as I found out that the vaccine could possibly interfere with menstrual cycles and there were women reporting it made their periods worse, I refused to get it. Imagine boasting about getting the vaccine in 2025. I feel like the government could persuade these people to chop their own heads off and they'd do it willingly.

No. 2463821

>>2463739
>people who think you support terrorism if you support Palestinian children
Seriously? If you support Hamas, which are controlled opposition by the Israeli government, then yes, but I don't see regular people sperging out about being opposed to child deaths.

No. 2463822

>>2463819
I unfortunately got vaxxed twice but I’m hoping I’m one of those people who “flushes” that crap out of their system. I forgot how it works but I remember hearing an explanation that there’s some blood types that possibly hold on to what’s in the vaccine or something.. yeah I can’t explain it at all but they put something in there that looks like nanotechnology into the bloodstream.

No. 2463871

I lost so many friends during covid because I was skeptical of the vaccine. I was literally living on a woman's land at the time, we were 20 miles down a dirt road. Who are we catching covid from? Deer? I was accused of being like alt-right and ridiculous things just because I, as a woman, was skeptical of the medical community? lmao? Medical community has a long history of not giving a fuck about women and hurting women. I had a fake vaccine card just to avoid getting it. Now that I'm having a daughter I'm going to have to have the same fight all over again. She's not getting it! I'm not getting it!

No. 2464046

>>2463821
There's influencers that have sent money and supplies to JUST the children, and immediately got bombarded for being "terrorist supporters"

No. 2464078

>>2463871
I look down on people who call me an anti-vaxxer because I'm skeptical of the covid vaccine. Bro, I have all my other vaccines and believe in children getting vaccines, but sure, I'm anti vaxxer because I know that pharmaceutical companies put profits above people's lives and so didn't want to get a vaccine for a cold that I wasn't at risk for.

No. 2464095

>>2463871
This. I never got the jab, husband didn't get it, nor did my 3 kiddos. We got COVID once pre-kids in 2021 and never got it again, kids never had it in their entire life despite my second being a preemie. Yet I've seen "healthy" people who get all of their boosters on the dot seem to get COVID every few months. Ofc everyone just pulls the whole "well it only prevents chance of death!!!" But ofc they only decided that after they gaslit us

No. 2464108

>>2464078
I constantly see them trying to rewrite history with her whole "they were loading up dead bodies into trucks!" thing. I even seen someone claimed "sunsets were hazy from how much cremation centers were being used" like ??? Did I teleport to a different reality where the virus doesn't have a 99%+ survival rate?
>But but that's still a lot of people compared to the millions!!
We lost more people to car accidents and cancer ffs, but no one ran around screaming "I swear they were packing dead bodies!!!" If car accident deaths were particularly high one year. Also didn't help if people died of one thing unrelated and they marked as a "COVID" death if they got hit by a car while testing positive

No. 2464126

>>2464108
I remember the trucks of bodies happening in New York. But honestly it just sounded practical. Like you get a reefer trailer, set it to a not-corpse-degrading temperature, and get some breathing room for your crematoriums or graveyards or whatever. It's way easier to get a 53' reefer in than getting a whole new body storage thing set up. Especially for temporary use. But it was blown out of proportion, like some kind of post apocalyptic thing instead of just practicality. I don't remember the cremation thing.

>>2464095
One other thing I only see from people who got the vaccine is "long covid" which is just chronic lyme 2 (fake). The list of symptoms I've seen for "long covid" range from numb toes to fatigue to neurological dysfunction.

No. 2464145

>>2464126
>remember the trucks of bodies happening in New York
The "truck of dead bodies" has been a normal occurrence since long long before covid, almost every major hospital that contains a morgue has the coroner/truck/whatever once a week pick up bodies. Do people just think people that died in the hospital just teleport out of there and it wasn't until COVID all of this ended?

No. 2464153

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>>2464145
Not that you're not wrong, but specifically for covid, they had reefer trailers as temp morgues in NYC.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_COVID-19_pandemic_in_New_York_City

No. 2464173

>>2464153
This has to be propaganda. Why would any hospital allow civilians this close to the "dead body truck" nevermind allow them to film it?

No. 2464177

>>2464095
>kiddos
go back

No. 2464183

>>2464177
you want her to put her kids back? back where?

No. 2464187

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No. 2464733

>>2461612
tbh I think her mk programming’s breaking down, that tends to happen after the subjects turn 30 and up.

No. 2464746

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CIA apparently used remote viewing to access the ark of the covenant. What do you think? GATE related?

No. 2465024

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With all of this Ai shit going around, I believe in the theory that the government has had this technology for a while now and only released it recently. They will use this to make it so that you have to use your ID or license to access and post on social media websites. They will create the problem of AI dead internet and then sell this china-esque shit as the solution.
More and more countries will become like China with their own fire wall and social media restrictions. The globalization of the internet will come to an end. Some countries are already starting to do this England, Australia, Brazil. More countries are to come.
>>2417970
>most people don’t care because they are still begging and waiting for the same shit that only worked in a certain era, wanting the old ways to always work is just retarded.
Nothing but truth was said here.

No. 2465207

I feel like this is small potatoes and I'm not actually religious but I think Trump is the antichrist for real. Freaks me out a lil bit because that means we are in the end times but we've been knowing this. But also I'm basically an anti theist because all religions are so fake or darksided. Them's the breaks I geuss

No. 2465267

I think that the republican party will never do anything to actually ban internet porn or prevent children from being exposed to it because they actually benefit from it being forced on kids. Let me explain: everyone here knows that increased exposure to pornography makes moids more misogynistic, especially young moids. If moids get exposed and addicted to porn as children, then unless they stop(none of them do) they will be way more misogynistic for the rest of their lives, making it easier for them to adopt other right wing social views as well. This is why twitter and instagram have so much porn on them and why dude-bro podcasts bring on only fans girls: they want their moidlet audience to become exposed to and addicted to pornography.

No. 2465285

>>2465207
>I think Trump is the antichrist for real.
His ego would absolutely love it that you think so highly of him

No. 2465288

>>2463871
Vaccines do work, but no medicine is without risk or side effects. They can absolutely harm vulnerable individuals who are unlucky so it should ALWAYS be up to the individual to take or not take it or any other medicine. I don't get what the drama from either side it, I thought both were known facts.

No. 2465322

>>2465288
Imagine if got 8 flu vaccines and still got the flu every year, you'd immediately have questions right? Vaccines work, just not the COVID one

No. 2465438

>>2465207
Funnily enough, I was reading an essay someone wrote about him being the antichrist last night. I'm not religious, but I think it makes interesting points https://www.benjaminlcorey.com/could-american-evangelicals-spot-the-antichrist-heres-the-biblical-predictions/

No. 2465461

My mom would love prison planet theory but she still holds on to the christfaggotry despite her entire life being absolute shit. Always getting into strange car crashes, had to get C sections that pretty much ruined her body, is always working and wageslaving while other people are able to get what they want with perfect ease while her life is sabotaged and unfortunately I’ve inherited her same curse. This is not a planet for growth, love, enjoyment, or purpose and it’s suppressing people’s real power and potential. My life has took an absolute downturn when I started figuring out on the micro level on who’s really running this world and what they want from it, which is they, like the elites, are in love with our energy (blood, waste, sex, adrenochrome, ambrosia) and get high and ecstatic over it and I’ve been actively sabotaged and have noticed the strangest synchronicities in my life that made it apparent this is a matrix system. It would throw things at me that I didn’t like whenever I went outside like it was an algorithm figuring out what you like to watch on YouTube or something. It would weaponize and use people that I even consume content from online who suddenly make content on stuff I was learning about before they even fucking decided to make it, in order to get ahead of the narrative. There is nothing here to sustain because there’s something trying to keep me trapped here and my mom fully miserable and helpless. Fuck everything, truly.

No. 2465489

>>2465288
>>2465322
They literally changed the definition of vaccine because of what a failure the covid experimental mRNA injection was lol. Like ya know, I'll take my TDaP no problem. My kid will get the MMR. Not the covid mRNA gobbledygook.

No. 2465509

So tired of being considered an anti vaxxer. I get all my vaccines and so do my kids. I even get flu shots. Never got the COVID vax and never will, if it actually fucking works I'll happily get it, but that's not reality, is it?

No. 2465775

After the Hailey is a stalker thing dropped, my tinfoil is that Stephen Baldwin wanted to get his claws on Justin Biebers money, and thats why he arranged for his daughter to get close to Justin and marry him as soon as possible (after 2 months). He is now working together with the cult church to get conservatorship over justin.

No. 2465783

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>>2465775
Great theory anon. Yeah it seems like her goal since birth was to be justin bieber's wife

No. 2465784

>>2465775
>Hailey is a stalker
Imo the only piece of semi-concrete evidence for this theory is the tattoo. The rest is tenuous or an outright lie, like the changed dates, and there's a non-zero chance it's being pushed by Selena's PR team considering the suspiciously timely album drop. Still, that wouldn't negate your theory at all, it's a known fact that older scrotes in Hollywood are cunning predatory leeches.

No. 2465805


No. 2465807

>>2465509
what do you mean by the vaccine "working"? As in never get COVID? Because vaccines and immunizations are not the same and while you can get a vaccine to fight against a disease, you are not completely immune.
The point of a vaccination is to prepare your body with the antibodies to defend itself from potential pathogens, so while you will still get sick, the symptoms wont be as severe if you went without.

No. 2465810

>>2465784
I mean I don't personally think she is a stalker, it was just eaiser to write it that way. I think she was a superfan and her dad groomed her and used his connections to insert her into Justins life. They obviously didn't organically meet.

No. 2465811

>>2465807
I get that but it hasn't done jack shit for anyone. It's one thing if it was once in a blue moon but these people are getting COVID more than normal it seems. Imagine getting the measles vaccine and then getting measles every damn year, wouldn't you have questions?

No. 2465824

>>2465784
I agree. Plus Selena has multiple tattoos that are very similar to ones both Hailey and Justin have, and most of the outfits Hailey has been accused of copying are either generic LA girl style or else, as you mentioned, the dates were literally changed by the person who made that thread and if you actually Google them instead of blindly believing the twitter thread, the real dates show Hailey wore them first with Selena following usually a few days to a couple of months later. Why is Hailey labelled a stalker based on tenuous and outright fabricated evidence but Selena gets ignored or treated like a victim despite actually doing the things Hailey is accused of doing and still releasing songs to this day moaning about her ex picking someone else?
It's not a coincidence that every single girl who's been linked to Justin Bieber has been treated like a villain in Selena's story. She can't get over him and is still possessive over him to this day. I bet she's instigating another hate train against Hailey because she feels extra crazy now her and Justin have had a baby. She has crazy stans for some reason, but I'd still be surprised if this level of vitriol and straight up lies were 100% organic.

No. 2465835

>>2465811
Again, a vaccination is NOT an immunization. It does not render you immune to infection nor does it reduce your chance of catching it if you are in a high risk area. The only purpose is to prepare your immune system with the antibodies required to fight off against the disease. Its why COVID symptoms from the beginning of the pandemic went from permanent loss of taste and chronic pulmonary issues to flu-like symptoms that go away in a week.

>Imagine getting the measles vaccine and then getting measles every damn year

Similarly theres a reason why there are no common cold/influenza immunization shots, why you have to take a vaccination each flu season in order to gain the immunity for it and why you still catch it despite taking the vaccinations so frequently. New pathogens are mutated and created infinitely and there is no singular antibiotic that can fight off against all pathogens. If it was a immunization and you still caught the virus thats when you should start being concerned regarding the authenticity of your injections (e.g. Hepatitis B, Measles as per your example)

No. 2465836

>>2465830
>flu-like symptoms that go away in a week
I never had the vaccine and that was the worst of my covid infection. So with that logic, the vaccine did nothing except increase the chance of death in certain populations.

No. 2465838

>>2465810
I bet this is how a lot of celebrity couples happen. Marriage between rich families have always, historically, been glorified business transactions, I don't see why that would suddenly change for celebrities. Justin is such a trainwreck that Hailey's dad would have a very plausible reason to push for a conservatorship "for safety", maybe he's even using the Diddy situation to dredge up old wounds/rumours.

No. 2465869

>>2465836
I could provide an anecdote of my own experiences that refute yours, but then we'd just spend our time back-and-forthing.

No. 2465894

>>2465836
My statement was incorrect, COVID symptoms generally aren't as severe as what I listed, what made it very dangerous in the first place was that its highly infectious via airborne particles/droplets which caused it to spread widely in a short amount of time. It should be noted that if your body is under attack by COVID, it leaves you vulnerable to other diseases, so in the beginning stages of the pandemic when people did not know the symptoms or treatment for COVID, hospitals quickly reached max capacity. Airborne transmissions thrive in crowded environments which makes it the perfect breeding ground to infect or worsen the conditions of a patient who is already suffering from COVID. (Hospitals are one of the most highly infectious areas to be around, there is a specific category of disease exclusive to hospital transmitted disease i.e nosocomial infections)

You mentioned that you are on top of your immunizations and flu vaccinations which means your immune system isn't as vulnerable and can fend itself against COVID well enough, but this is not the case for individuals who are immuno-compromised, very young/very old, injured.etc
COVID symptoms are primarily based on a person's underlying health and their immune system;
for example, my mother experienced deliberating symptoms of COVID due to chronic issues such as diabetes and hypertension that worsened her disease, in comparison I myself only experienced flu symptoms and temporary loss of taste (this was pre-vaccination and we are both essential workers).

So yes, if you feel your immune system is strong enough to take care of COVID feel free to not take it, the world's your oyster. Just take consideration that if you were to suddenly become injured, gain chronic illness, or simply get old, your immune system will be more susceptible to worsened symptoms and will not be prepared with the required antibodies to fend off the disease quickly. Also be aware that your children may not have an immune system as mature enough as yours and could experience worsened symptoms of covid were they to catch it along with other pathogens that could worsen their health such as influenza.

No. 2465973

>>2465894
Samefag, heres another simplification on how vaccination could have an effect on the spread and symptoms of covid:
>be unvaccinated and catch COVID
>body does not have antibodies to fend off pathogen so it takes longer to eliminate the disease
>your body currently carries the COVID pathogens as the immune system is still fending it off
>you spread the pathogens via airborne particles and secretions, potentially infecting a host that comes into contact with the disease
>disease infects another unvaccinated person
>cycle repeats and more people are infected

Another fact I should correct is that COVID symptoms are milder for infants and young children, HOWEVER, if the child is infected with COVID they could be susceptible to more dangerous diseases such as RSV, pertussis, hiB that the child is too young to receive immunizations for so you would need to get rid of the COVID symptoms as soon as possible.

No. 2465998

Goddamn y'all are still being paid to shill that mRNA injection? How little did you sell your integrity for? Are you allowed to say?

No. 2466009

>>2465998
God I wish I would get paid for it, instead I get paid in shekels having to take the brunt of caring for ill patients in a 7-17 shift. If youre not going to take the COVID vaccine at least do the bare minimum and take your tuberculin, measles, and HBV immunizations so you dont contract a double whammy of two contagious diseases consecutively and put additional strain on health care workers trying to make sure you dont fucking die.

No. 2466023

>get rabies vac bc I'm in vet school
>Get bitten by stray dog
>Whew at least I'm vaccinated yippie
>"Erm actually vaccination doesn't give you immunization nonna, gl"
>Begin foaming at the mouth and die
Can you imagine if this was actually the reality of the situation. Why lie about how vaccinations work just to shill one shitty mRNA injection that doesn't do shit. Why not just own it that it sucks. No one is dying from COVID.

No. 2466052

>>2466023
Don't be obtuse, what I said is a simplified definition on why COVID/Influenza is a reoccurring illness despite the repetitive vaccinations. I certainly could've worded it better by saying that vaccinations can lead to immunization however not all vaccinations can grant complete immunity to all pathogens.
I've never encountered a rabies case nor have expertise in it since contracting it is virtually nonexistent outside of contact with an infected animal (which vets are more susceptible to receiving) but as far as I know rabies is easy to prevent, harder and virtually impossible to cure.
The vaccination can fight against the rabies virus establishing itself in the central nervous system but it does not guarantee complete immunity should you not be on top of your boosters. Rabies is especially important to consider because it can remain doormant for years before symptoms show up and later become fatal.
Also not every stray animal is a potential host to rabies? So even if you were bitten by a stray that does not guarantee you foaming in the mouth and dying?
Thats like saying getting sneezed in the face will 100% guarantee a flu because thats how influenza is spread. Your chances are increased yes but its not guaranteed.

No one is dying from COVID, but it certainly will worsen the symptoms of other chronic diseases that will lead to their death.

No. 2466056

>>2465836
It can decrease mortality in some demographics. They used to only recommend routine flu vaccination to seniors and I think they should have kept it that way. I don't fully understand why some young, healthy people have such an intense reaction to vaccines but I believe it happens.

No. 2466082

>>2466052
Whatever LLM is being used to make these posts just outed itself by sperging out over hyperbole and satire. So sorry, maybe if you had been trained on something of higher quality than reddit posts we wouldn't have such a bad outcome.

No. 2466092

I think the connection between the COVID jab and long COVID is just that most anxious, malingering, worrywarts got the jab. Long COVID is just health anxiety. People with those mental problems are more likely to have gotten the jab, more likely to "experience" long COVID. Just like people with genders are more likely to "have" POTS, eds, chiari, etc.

No. 2466103

>>2466082
I dont know what I expected by being in the tinfoil thread but mine is that the contrarians that reject modern medicine is actually damage control to reverse the effects of eliminating diseases that was history's natural means of population control. good riddance I will not complain if people willingly sign themselves up to death if it means less occupied beds to care for.

No. 2466110

>>2466103
Everyone ITT has the normal vaccines and just objects to the shitty worthless mRNA jab. You can climb down off your cross whenever you want.

No. 2466115

>>2466103
I agree from the other side of things. I think if people want to be experimental lab rats or role the dice on potential side effects they have every right. The long jeopardy of the species kind of hinges on enough separate groups making different choices to see which choices pan out. If we all do the same thing and pick wrong we’re looking at a potential extinction level event.

No. 2466134

>>2427372
I agree nonna. They have gotten sloppy over the years producing younger and weaker mass shooters like the ones with botched google docs manifestos that only end up striking two people before killing themselves. Perhaps they're trying to speedrun the gun regulation thing by grooming children with parents that own unguarded firearms (who are becoming increasingly common)

No. 2466333

>>2465835
I've known probably one person who got the flu while getting the flu shot every year (was required at the hospital I worked), every single person I known with the vaccine ended up getting COVID multiple times anyway. But god forbid we hold manufacturers responsible and actually, you know, improve it

No. 2466335

>>2465835
If that's it and the virus already has a higher survival rate than almost any other virus what's the point of people acting like complete Nazis about the vaccine? If I know I have a 99%+ rate of survival, and I don't get vaccinated which means I have a 100% rate of not having vaccine side effects why would I just take that away? So I can end up like the moron in the screenshot >>2463803

No. 2466336

>>2466333
my entire family got the vaccine and didn’t get COVID. we weren’t shut in hypochondriacs either.

No. 2466339

>>2466336
Same for me, I caught covid way before the vaccine existed, and once I was vaccinated I never caught it again despite being exposed several times because of coworkers, friends and family members I live with who caught it. Covid was nothing like the flu for me and symptoms depends on each person so who knows how that works exactly but it worked for me.

No. 2466341

>>2466336
My entire family didn't get vaccinated and we didn't get COVID either and aren't at risk of the vaccine side effects. It's a win win

No. 2466845

>>2464746
There's astral projection forums where people talk about projecting on different planets and there's apparently humans on Venus

No. 2466887

>>2465894
My immune system is absolute shit but it managed to fight off covid on it's own even though it took longer than for other people. What it wouldn't be able to fight of is all the other shit that was in the vaccine.
>>2466115
One of my friend's got 6 jabs and said he's looking forward to another one. Fucking insane, he really belives it's a good thing to this fanatical point. He had pretty bad health this last year "without any reason".
>>2466845
There might have been lifeforms there in the past when it was habitable for life. Astral projection can often take you to see things from the past. Wish i could see mammoths but the furtherst thing from the past i saw was happening sometime in 1910-30's.

No. 2468211

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>luke skywalker (enki)
Kek I love being a tinfoiler

No. 2468271

>>2465894
The milder symptoms may or may not be the work of the vaccine. Remember that at around the time the vaccines were rolling out, the virus had already mutated naturally into a milder version of itself which resembled the flu. There were early studies which showed a worsened immunity after two shots of the vaccine, not to mention that the manifacturers withheld important information on the known side effects for a lot of time, I can't blame people for thinking that the covid vaccines were shady dangerous things, especially because the majority of the population didn't have a choice not to take it (remember when governments forced you to take it and took away your right to work, study and buy things if you didn't?).
Plus you talk about spreading the disease, but remember that the manufacturers for the vaccines actually said that they were never tested to stop the spread and most likely didn't (another thing we were gaslighted about).

>>2466009
If hospitals and health care workers actually did their fucking jobs (and if the governments let them) we would have had half of the issues that came up with covid. Many deaths were due to neglect, wrong treatment and refusal to give medications even when available. Most politicians are old ass fuckers with at least 2 illnesses, but I wonder why none of them died from covid when they caught it.

No. 2469820

>>2465322
>Smart enough to be on the tinfoil thread talking about how COVID vaccines don't work
>But not to look up whether the flu vaccine or other vaccines work
I never get how people will see that one government shilled thing version 4.2.a which has had billions of dollars poured into making people believe it is actually a total fabrication but never stop to check out ver. 4.1.a or 4.1.b.

No. 2469832

>>2465894
Everything you said in this comment is pretty much false, anon. COVID was never 'very dangerous' in the first place. You keep talking like it is but it just wasn't, even mainstream science is now admitting that with great frequency. A mild cold (which it always was) spreading frequently in a short time is how every seasonal ILI works and no one ever talks about other similar colds as 'very dangerous' even though they can kill old people.
>people did not know the symptoms or treatment for COVID
Yes they did, from the very start COVID symptoms were just 'regular cold/flu symptoms' and there have been no changes to that at any intervening point. That's still the official symptoms of COVID, is 'a cold.' Hospitals reached 'max capacity' because they let fewer people in, not because there were more sick people.
>You mentioned that you are on top of your immunizations and flu vaccinations which means your immune system isn't as vulnerable
There's no evidence for this and has never been any evidence for this and that's really not how the immune system works.
>but this is not the case for individuals who are immuno-compromised
Do you even know what that word means?
>very young
People who are very young were never at any risk from COVID at all, they are literally the safest group that handles minor colds the best out of all demographics.
>for example, my mother experienced deliberating symptoms of COVID due to chronic issues such as diabetes and hypertension
No shit, older people with diabetes and hypertension don't handle colds as well as young and healthy people.
>if you feel your immune system is strong enough to take care of COVID feel free to not take it
No one would have cared enough to be arguing about it 4 years later if people were 'free to not take it' in the first place. It's hilarious reading these posts acting like they were born yesterday or lived in a cave in serbia since 2018. Almost every human being in the world was pressured and coerced to take the vaccine, nonna, that's why people are still upset about it.

>>2465973
This entire explanation is incredibly scientifically illiterate and I think you should spend some more time researching if you're as interested in this topic as you seem to be. A good starting point is to ask yourself which antibodies, in which tissues, would help 'fend off' the COVID pathogen versus which antibodies, in which tissues, the vaccine creates, and for how long, and their pharmacokinetics generally.

It's also incredibly dishonest to type up borderline glowie-posts like this 4 years after everyone was forced to take the vaccine because most of us here are not 5yos and are old enough to remember the definition of vaccine that was on the WHO website and the things that the vax creators and vax shills themselves were saying at that time. They claimed the vaccine was necessary because it would completely halt transmission, and that vaccinated people could not get or transmit COVID. Now we're all just supposed to settle for this juvenile retcon of 'no, we all knew that vaccines didn't work that way!!' Embarrassing that a person who claims to work in the healthcare system is shilling this medically uneducated garbage when you had years to look up some actual information. Then making repeated samefagging posts 5 minutes later trying to correct the multiple errors you noticed you made right afterwards, probably because you never bothered to look up basic facts until after shillposting.

>>2466009
>tuberculin
Where do you live, Venezuela? They don't even give the TBG vaccine in first world countries.

>>2466103
>contrarians that reject modern medicine
Seems to be you considering the garbled antiscientific nonsense you posted all over the thread. It's always the least educated people with the least apparent background in 'modern medicine' who accuse others of being 'anti science' and 'anti modernity' but won't pick up their modern computer and use their modern wifi connection to access some modern pubmed articles (or even older ones!) which can be read for free on the modern internet.

>>2468271
>the virus had already mutated naturally into a milder version of itself which resembled the flu.
It always resembled the flu from the very beginning. It IS, currently, in essence, the flu. It always was. The tests couldn't even accurately tell you if you had COVID or some other virus or nothing. All anyone who 'got COVID' knew for a fact was that they had a flu, during a time when people were saying 'COVID is going around,' but it could have been any other ILI as well. As you say, the immune response has been shown (both observationally and mechanistically) to be worsened by the vaccine and this information was at least partially available before they even rolled it out. The whole thing was such a transparent psyop.

No. 2469846

>>2466092
Long Covid is not health anxiety, long covid is myalgic encephalomyelitis.

No. 2469863

>>2469846
Chronic eepy disorder is not real.

No. 2469872

>>2469863
It probably is real, as in people are really tired and it's probably due to some baseline health issues, but I don't believe it's an actual concrete disease and certainly it doesn't have a known etiology, so saying
>Long Covid is not health anxiety, long covid is myalgic encephalomyelitis.
is basically equivalent to saying
>chronic eepy disorder is not chronic eepy disorder, it is actually chronic eepy disorder.

No. 2469875

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>>2469832
Based queen.

No. 2469883

>>2469863
I wish you were right but unfortunately you’re not. Hope nobody you love ever develops it.

No. 2469945

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>>2469875
Thanks nonna, I need to correct one thing from my post though, which is that I realized after posting you were pressured to take the vaccine even if you were literally a serbian cave hermit who didn't interact with society. So what's that anon's excuse?

No. 2470046

>>2468211
Enki is real and the one who is trying to save us from this prison that YHVH (Enlil) put us in

No. 2471524

>>2466887
Do you have any tips on how to get started?

No. 2471966

During covid lockdowns I remember a group doing astral projection tours and I signed up for it, but they cancelled due to interpersonal drama, very sad. We were planning on seeing the moon and some other places.

>>2469832
We do the tuberculin in Greece, nonnie… We're a first world country, aren't we? (Please say yes)

No. 2471970

>>2471966
I mean yes I'd say Greece is (just barely) a first world country but the vaccine is not a 'standard' vaccine in most wealthy countries by any means. And from what I understand countries like Greece mostly get their tuberculosis cases from migrants so it may persist there due to the large number of 'boat people' (sorry) because I don't think TB is very common in Greece generally. I have no idea where that other anon is from but the whole 'I hope you've gotten your other standard vaccines like (this vaccine most first world countries haven't had on their schedules in decades)' was just a really weird thing to throw in amongst all the other weird misinformation.

No. 2471996

>>2471970
>(just barely)
>'boat people'
Fair points all around.

It's really shocking to see people still shilling so hard for the narrative 5 years past the situation itself. Is it really so hard to go, "Yes, we over-reacted and in retrospect, we didn't need to do what we did to people and ruin their livelihoods over a mild cold." Is it really better to erode people's confidence in their health authorities and vaccines in general, even unto the point of changing the definition of vaccine? It just strikes me as so silly whenever I'm confronted with it. If someone heard "vaccines don't confer immunity" wouldn't they be more likely to get no vaccines rather than get the shitty covid one? "The covid one is shitty and doesn't prevent you from catching it, so only take it if you need it" would be so much better messaging rather than this.

No. 2472013

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>>2471524
With astral projection? I started when I was in highschool but I started with lucid dreaming (I didn't beive in astral projection at all then) and was doing it for about half of a year and then astral projection just happened to me two nights in a row so I didn't really have a strategy to learn it. I think though lucid dreaming is a good start with your mind abilities, I think it turns on a switch in your brain do be able to do more things.
When I was already doing astral projection regulary what helped me to induce it was: 1.Think about doing it a lot during the day 2. Talk about the experiences with my friend 3. Wake up in the middle of the night and go to the toilet (I don't know why but my body needs to walk a little bit before the projection, doesn't work if i just wake up and go back to sleep) Then lie on your back, no libs crossed, and just be like this and don't move. Then you could start to hear your own brainwaves (happens somtimes, sometimes not, but it's a good sign) Then you'll feel vibrations in your legs slowly going to your brain and when the vibrations reach your brain they stop and you need to get up. It's difficult to get up because you're tired but when you do you got up from your body and you're there. People usually panic at this point and it's over but if you learn to not panic it's a lot of fun.

No. 2472028

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>>2471996
No shade nonna I've been to Greece twice and was just there 2 summers ago and it is legitimately my fav place in the world in terms of food, nature, very friendly people etc. but I'd say it's closer to a mid-income country propped up by the wealth of Europe generally and when it comes to health care may be straggling a little compared to other wealthier countries. When I looked up TB cases in Greece I found picrel suggesting that a majority of Greek TB cases (there are not many) are migrant-related. There are many Western countries without regular TB vaccination which have similarly low case rates, not because the vaccines were so effective in the past or whatever but simply speaking because TB is a poverty disease that hardly affects anyone with access to clean water, good nutrition, etc. Like in Canada for example no one in the entire country regularly gets TB vaccines except for remote northern Inuit populations, who have an ongoing TB crisis but also barely have access to food or reasonable healthcare. I personally knew two people who worked with tuberculosis populations in Nunavut and neither of them were expected to get the TB vaccine themselves, because it was generally understood that as healthy people they wouldn't get it just from hanging out with TB positive populations for 3-4 months. Also TB can be treated with conventional antibiotics fairly easily until it's far-gone, so it's really an issue for communities without healthcare access mainly.

>Is it really so hard to go, "Yes, we over-reacted and in retrospect, we didn't need to do what we did to people and ruin their livelihoods over a mild cold."

Yeah it is hard for people because they put everything on the line for the narrative. The people who were hardcore vaccine shills for years and years alienated their friends and family members and told them they hope they'll die, it's not easy to come back from that. They gloated over myocarditis deaths claiming they only happened in the UNvaccinated, it's hard to come back from that and admit the vaccines were causing the myocarditis. It's just generally much harder to admit you're wrong after you've burned so many bridges and staked your entire reputation and sense of 'I'm a good person!' on a belief.

>Is it really better to erode people's confidence in their health authorities and vaccines in general, even unto the point of changing the definition of vaccine?

The problem is that the whole fiasco didn't seem to erode the average person's confidence that much. And for the people whose confidence was eroded, they had the convenient 'evil murderous antivaxxer getting everyone killed' narrative at the ready. That narrative actually made me (a biomedsci person who previously was super pro-vax) to look into past arguments for vaccines and I actually realized that there was not a lot of good evidence for prior vaccines either, but since they weren't as clearly harmful/dangerous as the COVID vax, it was very convenient to work up a narrative about the evil vax doubters as murderous psychopathic hippie homeschooler women who put everyone's kids at risk. People were already primed to think that antivaxer = bad, anti-science, etc. so the extent to which the average NPC's faith in the medical establishment was eroded by COVID seems very small. In fact, I've noticed a lot of people to this day in 2025 claiming that COVID was an example of why we need to completely trust big pharma and the biomedical establishment, and use it to promote and shill stuff like WPATH troon care and other dubious 'healthcare' as well. I've never seen other scientists like myself so smug and narcissistic as I have over the past few years because of how COVID inflated the public's idea of their importance.

>"The covid one is shitty and doesn't prevent you from catching it, so only take it if you need it" would be so much better messaging rather than this.

I would think that would be the case if your average person was rational, but sadly I no longer believe your average person is. People are completely stuck in their social media bubbles and don't want to think critically since it's hard. They will just accept whatever they're told.

No. 2472061

>>2472028
The whole covid debacle really opened my eyes to how fucking dangerous normies are. You had people saying unvaxxed should be put in camps or killed and have their kids taken away simply because they didn't immediately and unconditionally trust the brand new untested thing shat out by big pharma. We cannot coexist with these people, and they are a clear and present danger to us.

No. 2472079

>>2472061
Yeah it completely changed the entire way I look at the world. I used to look at those moids who went on about how 'most people are NPCs' and think that they were just autistic retards lacking theory of mind/empathy (and I still do to some extent) but I get why they said that now. After 2020 it was really hard to look at the regular normies around me in the world the same way anymore and I really do operate on the assumption now that most people are essentially NPCs for all intents and purposes. Like not in the sense that I don't think they have brains and cognition but in the sense that I don't think they really use their brains for much of anything approaching critical thinking or reasoning or really ask themselves any important questions about the world. If Man On The News says 'do X' they do X. If Man On The News says a week later 'doing X makes you a Nazi' they screech that they won't be friends with anyone who has done X ever again.

My parents and grandparents lived through one or several autocratic regimes (grandparents all lived through the holocaust essentially as well as invasions by the red army, etc) and they all said that COVID felt pretty much like the same thing even if it was less explicitly violent. In fact many of my relatives said it felt worse because of the way that everyone just quietly accepted it and didn't fight back. I lost so many friends and several of my friends openly admitted that they think vax passports are similar to Jim Crow segregation but 'it's okay because the government means well.'

The most heartbreaking thing was honestly seeing all these really accomplished near-retirement scientists (some with Nobel prizes) breaking down and crying over the way they were being mistreated just for bringing up basic scientific facts. Prior to COVID I was pretty convinced I wanted to stay in academia and try to become a science professor but it completely shattered my faith in the academic establishment. Random busker hippie couchsurfers I knew were making more logical sense than people with PhDs and if you actually had a science PhD and tried to give people any facts or evidence they would just go 'no, not you, the experts who have the same opinion as me.' I honestly started to obsessively read those articles about how some people don't have internal monologues and shit to try to grasp how it was possible for people to act so empty-headed but I still to this day can't really grasp what happened to people or how it is possible for them to be like that. It felt like I was getting an object lesson in 'how pretty much everyone in Germany became a Nazi overnight' because I used to think that was weird and hard to explain and now I don't anymore.

Sorry for the long rant but at this point the weirdest thing to me is that after COVID became less of a 'thing' and society went back to (relatively) normal, there's been a huge influx of science papers proving basically everything COVID skeptics and vax skeptics were saying, but everyone just ignores them. All the 'Trust The Science (TM)!!' retards have gone back to never reading or mentioning a single scientific abstract as hundreds of papers come out proving the whole thing was a total scam. There's still some level of suppression of science papers on the topic but it's far less aggressive than it was 2-3 years ago but it literally doesn't matter because no one gives a shit anymore as if the whole thing never happened at all; if you bring it up to normies they will act like it's some passe and dead topic no one should care about anymore even though it completely restructured society and fucked up the careers, education and developmental processes of billions of people.

No. 2472085

Let's say hypothetically that we are at the end of it all. What can we even do? I've felt like there's no future, that everything is leading up to something. I'm not depressed so I don't think it's that. I have felt like we are attacked on all sides spiritually and morally by degenerates and lunatics of all persuasions but nobody around me cares. I feel like maybe prison planet is real and we are trapped but also I feel like the book of revelations is actually happening. Things are falling apart I think that reality is unraveling. I've been an atheist/religion hater since I was a little girl, the male supremacy and hypocrisy of the churches of the world and of their believers made me hate it. But in these last couple of years I have felt like something is reaching out to me. Asking me to find it. I try to research certain things about history and the sex crimes of the elite and I get a ringing in my ears or hear a low humming. Has anyone experienced something similar? My family doesn't have a history of schizophrenia and I don't meet the criteria for it so I'm not going crazy I think.

No. 2472089

>>2472079
People where I live were literally wearing masks every time they went outside. Like even in open fields. I couldn’t respect most people after that.

No. 2472095

>>2472085
Idk nonna I don't get paranormal experiences or anything like that but I can relate to the feeling that things are unraveling (also as a lifelong atheist) and I understand why some people feel drawn to spirituality now. I can't really speak to what to do about spiritual stuff because I still don't but my attitude is to try to focus on the things that make life worthwhile (whether you feel it's a spiritual thing or not). Connecting with nature, creating things (art, even gardening, whatever), nurturing and helping other people, fostering a sense of community, just doing the things that feel important to you even if they aren't associated with typical 'success' metrics.

A lot of people have thought 'it's all unraveling' or 'the world is ending' at many points in history but then nothing like that happened, so I don't want to put too much stake in the subjective perception I have that things are falling apart because I think in civilization, things often fall apart cyclically. However I think for me or you as an individual, the way to not get dragged down by it is to live a life that is full and that includes not being afraid (of things like social censure, losing money/opportunities for speaking out or taking risks), devoting yourself to improving things concretely for people around you or the environment around you (I don't mean going to environmentalism protests, but like working the land, cleaning up when you see trash in nature, etc) and just trying to build a community in person with like-minded people.

>>2472089
Lol yeah where I live a bunch of people continue to wear masks to walk around outside, it's bizarre. During COVID I would go on hikes and people with masks would pass me on the hike and like literally jump into the forest when they saw us coming and like scramble to run 20feet up some forest slope. I also saw people swimming in mountain lakes with masks on.

No. 2472097

>>2472085
Just try to have a nice day every day. Eat delicious food. Creative pursuits. Volunteer and meet people. It doesn't really matter if society is collapsing until it does and we'll deal with it then. This is your life and you can work to make it fulfilling, pleasurable and meaningful. And I do have schizo issues but I still believe this and my life is ok

No. 2472104

>>2472089
>>2472095
The masks thing was a common practice in Asian countries long before COVID. They wear masks in general anytime they’re sick or might be sick. COVID made it more prominent in the west but there was definitely a precedent for it already.

No. 2472107

>>2472013
Wow interesting, I guess it makes sense that lucid dreaming would make it easier since it's an out of body experience in a way too. I've honestly never been that interested in lucid dreaming as it just seems like daydreaming with extra steps to me, but it's happened to me a few times so it's good to know that it could help. Astral projection is like an art of discovering the secrets of the universe and that has always appealed to me. I guess I will start a dream diary then!
Also this might be a long shot, but do you nonas think that this falling feeling that sometimes happens right before sleeping might be related to astral projection? I know it's supposed to be a reflex that kept our ancestors in the trees, but I've never really been satisfied with that explanation. When it happens to me or my nigel, the flinching is usually really visceral, so I doubt it would help sleep in trees, it seems more like it would lead to falling in the first place.

No. 2472111

>>2472104
First of all no not really, wearing masks during flu season in Asia was never an especially common practice (some people would do it but most wouldn't and at any rate it was more from a sense of politeness or not wanting to visibly look like shit than any real belief that it stopped colds/flus from spreading) and second, it's not like flus spread less in those countries anyway so if what you're saying was true then it would be another point against masks. Anyway all scientists knew already by early 2020 that wearing masks doesn't stop or slow the flu. It was just a ridiculous humiliation ritual bone that was thrown to people to feel like 'the government is doing something' and allowed society to conveniently ostracize people who didn't act like good little sheeple.

No. 2472114

>>2472079
I had such a similar experience to you, anon. The mistreatment really, really sticks with me. Where I live things were infamously totalitarian, you needed to show proof of vaccination+booster even to enter the grocery store. I'm glad we don't have to do that anymore, but I always just wonder, did everyone just forget that shit? We just live our lives like nothing happened for the most part, but I remember how instantly people toed the line and how aggressive they were if you were even a little hesitant, and most importantly I remember how this aggression had institutional backing. I'm still baffled at how some of my very bright, very kind friends immediately turned into broken records who would just repeat the mantras of that time and refuse to even consider that the government response may have been a little odd, let alone that the vaccine was being actively lied about.
I also remember seeing people swimming with masks on as recently as 2022. Here even surf beaches and hiking trails were closed by government decree. We had those bizarre proto-15-minute-city distance/time restrictions too which were fucking insane.

No. 2472116

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Some of the normie women who were beastly to me during covid are more contrite now. I mean, trust them less now that I know they're susceptible to brainwashing and will turn on me at any time. But hey, they can retroactively admit it was a silly situation. So not all hope is lost, right? So now with the new narrative of avian flu they'll be innoculated against media driven over-reaction… right? Am I too optimistic or what? I do have some people worried about my backyard flock infecting me.

No. 2472118

>>2472111
Why are you lying? actually yes wearing masks to prevent colds is common practice in Asia kek where did you hear it's done in "saving face"? Americans acting as If thin layer of paper cloth is the same as the Islamic niqab is hilarious kek

No. 2472120

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>>2472118
Why are you having an emotional reaction to words on a website? Picrel was definitely not common in Asia. Maybe a few scattering of masks on adults, but nothing on this scale. Nowhere near.

No. 2472130

>>2472114
Yeah I also lived in one of the places with the worst (and longest-lasting) restrictions in the world. Like curfews for literal years, couldn't go to any leisure activity or restaurant or bar, you couldn't enter certain big box stores without a vaxpass or if you could, you could only buy certain things there and not others (really weird), you couldn't buy alcohol, you couldn't get healthcare in some cases, etc. They never banned us from going to food-only grocery stores but there were restrictions on stores like Walmart that had other stuff that wasn't food. It only stopped around 2023 iirc, long after most places had gone back to being more sane.
>but I always just wonder, did everyone just forget that shit?
I also think this all the time. I'll have people who called me a nazi fascist murderer trying to ingratiate themselves with me again as if nothing happened even though they were publicly wishing for my (personal) death a couple years ago.
>my very bright, very kind friends immediately turned into broken records who would just repeat the mantras of that time and refuse to even consider that the government response may have been a little odd, let alone that the vaccine was being actively lied about.
Maybe they actually weren't very bright or very kind. I don't think of any of those people as bright or kind anymore. I think a lot of people manage to seem bright, kind, and normal when they aren't called upon to do any critical thinking or show any empathy for people who aren't exactly like themselves, but it's a smokescreen. Notably almost all my close friends, who actually cared about me, acted normal during COVID even if they initially disagreed with me - they would hear me out, have a conversation; most ended up agreeing with me after a few months. I think it's easy for people to seem 'smart' because they went to college and learned the Big College Words and it's easy for people to seem nice when there isn't any reason for them not to be, but the illusion is shattered when they're called upon to actually display intelligence or kindness under non-ideal conditions.

>>2472116
In what way are they contrite? Like did they actually look into it and reason their way through the situation and sincerely apologize or are they just trying to paper things over?

>>2472118
Do you have evidence of this 'widespread' constant mask wearing in 'Asian countries' during every past flu season? I live in a place with a huge number of East Asian immigrants and most of my friends who were recent Asian immigrants thought the masking shit was ultra ridiculous and insisted it was never normal back home. If you look at videos of places like Japan and China pre-2020 you can see from the surveillance video that not many people are wearing masks, you can also look at popular media and see that it wasn't normalized in media. And I also believe the dozens of Asian immigrants I personally know that they never saw such a thing irl.
>thin layer of paper cloth is the same as the Islamic niqab
No it's actually worse in some ways because the 'paper' aka fiberglass pasted to your face is far more dangerous than wearing loose cotton over your face. The small particles get lodged in your mucous membranes, throat and lungs, bacteria and fungi grow on them and are re-breathed, etc. But it's curious that the only thing you can think of to compare masks to is a cultural practice that exists to oppress and de-person women. It's almost like depersoning wearers is the whole point.

No. 2472131

>>2472120
No ones is being emotional here also the spainish flu also had mask guidelines but regardless they followed it,it can be hard for children to understand why they should wear masks but even so they still wore it in majority of Asia without drama unlike in the west (by which I mean america) which only showed how stubborn and retarded they were with basic prevention so much so they were willing to prolong covid far longer than it needed to be

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>>2472079
I remember a friend sharing a study on sperm count and motility after the covid jab using sperm donors who donated before and after they got it. The conclusion said that there was no significant change, but the actual t values of the samples shortly after, intermediately after, and after a greater period of time were still not even close to 0 compared to the before sample… Some of the T3's were even worse than the earlier samples. So the conclusion isn't supported by the data. They even admitted so in the discussion but decided the need to push the jab was worth lying about it. Even shown the tables and picrel she was just like "I don't understand the numbers, but the conclusion says blah blah blah." You can't tell if -14% change as compared to 0 from the pre-jab sample is better or worse? What if you had $0 and you check your bank later to find it has -14% of change happening in there. What can you determine about your bank balance from this? If your latest sample is -15.9%, would you consider that further away or closer to the number zero? Gosh I dunno, let's just have the smart science men tell us everything. Science and curiosity are completely fucking dead.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1111/andr.13209 here's the shitass study if anyone else wants to read it.

>>2472131
Masks have never been proven to do shit besides encourage tooth hygiene. Shills are so low quality it's sad.

No. 2472155

>>2472079
100% same here anon. I really do believe the majority of people are npcs now. I'm still coping with this information and what to do with it but I've mostly just stopped trying to converse or entertain these people and their ideas and accept they are not like me and they never will be. I'm trying to learn better how to communicate with them, which is really just manipulating them to get off your back more than actual human communication because they are not capable of that. Trying to convince them of anything is crazy, it's no different from trying to convince your cat to do something, it just doesn't have that capability. I'm continuing to build my wealth and exit plan so I don't have to rely on the cattle for anything.

No. 2472159

>>2472120
NTA but I'm chiming in to say wearing masks to prevent the spread if illness is common in Asian countries, notably in Japan. It has been common for a while, I remember watching a crowd clip in a movie set in Japan and many of the people were wearing face masks. I was around 10 years old.
>>2472131
It's okay to stop answering someone on lc when they're being weird or unnecessarily aggro. This goes double for tinfoil thread because you get the anti-vaxx/covid denier/flat earther type of posters. And this is the thread for them, they are not wrong to post in this thread about those things, but people in those communities tend to be more aggressive and stubborn. So if you've upset them, they aren't likely to listen to your side of the argument, and you might want to stop replying before it escalates to an infight.

No. 2472160

I still think some of you non-vaxxed covid truthers, perfect menstruation, purity breastmilk havers are as rabid and retarded as the opposite party.(baiting)

No. 2472161

>>2472130
I was in the infamous Australian city and we were threatened with $200(about 100 burgerbucks) fines for not wearing the thing, which nobody paid anyway. There’s one famous clip of like 5 cops arresting a guy for protesting and then jamming a mask on him like a muzzle. Humiliation ritual completely.

No. 2472167

>>2472089
I got written up for being alone inside a 47,000 sq ft warehouse without a mask and that's when I knew it was bullshit lmao. That was like 2 weeks into "2 weeks to flatten the curve" and I was an "essential worker".

>>2472161
Weren't yall practically put in camps when you caught it?

No. 2472174

>>2472167
Yea there were FEMA camps that they built outside the city and if you came from overseas you were out in two week quarantine. And some people were locked into a housing commission tower in an actual violation of human rights that they won their class action lawsuit for I think. Insane and people still dicklick our retarded government because “it saved lives”. Say what you want about the States but I can’t imagine that happening over there.

No. 2472190

>>2472159
Lol being skeptical of the covid vax with all the information we have on just how shitty and worthless it is being lumped in with all the other stuff that's completely wacky. Maybe people are "aggro" with you because you're using the same argumentation we've heard for literally 5 years despite 0 scientific support. I'm glad you got an opportunity to wk some nonnie tho, I'm digging your girl supporting girl vibe, keep it up.

No. 2472196

>>2472131
Yeah the retards in 1918 who poisoned thousands of people with like 50 aspirin pills per day did so well at suppressing Spanish Flu deaths that the like 2 US cities with mask mandates also happened to have the highest death counts. Wearing cheesecloth over their faces totally saved them tho!
>the west (by which I mean america)
IDK why you keep mentioning America specifically when it's obvious most nonnas in this thread aren't even American but no, people all over the world struggled to wear masks because it's unnatural and unhealthy and damaging to the human organism to cover your face in fiberglass all day and rebreathe your own carbon dioxide. Also masks didn't 'prevent' anything and the scientists shilling masks knew that to begin with.

>>2472147
There were like literal thousands of studies that did this same thing nonna. Studying something, finding that the vaccine actually was harmful or causing side effects or that X 'prevention measure' didn't work or whatever but then the conclusion would just be like 'well this isn't concerning enough to stop forcing everyone to do the dangerous thing though so!' Meanwhile when SSRIs have 14% efficacy above placebo doctors prescribe them to everyone and their dog.

>>2472155
Personally, same as you, I stopped trying to converse with and entertain the NPCs. I used to be an extremely extroverted social butterfly, make small talk with basically every stranger I encountered outside, etc. but COVID led to me being a lot more selective with who I waste time on. I'm still extroverted and nice to strangers in public but I don't view your average person as a potential friend anymore and I try to save my energy for people who really matter to me. You're right that trying to convince retards of anything is basically a waste of time, it served me well during COVID because 'onlookers' would read/hear the arguments and be convinced but it's mostly not worth it to get upset about NPCs acting like NPCs.

>>2472159
Again do you have actual evidence that regular mask-wearing by large numbers of people was ever actually 'widespread' in Japan? Or is your evidence just 'I saw a movie 10 years ago and some people were wearing masks in the crowd and I know for sure it was because preventing diseases even though Japan didn't have less colds than any other country'?
>anti-vaxx/covid denier/flat earther type of posters
Lmao at talking to actual scientists and educated people posting academic papers and transparently trying to write them off as 'flat earther type of posters.' This is a fantastic example of the low-effort shill mentality of 'I have no evidence of anything I'm saying but I won't be bothered engaging with people who actually know something about a topic.' God forbid people be stubborn about reality. Next you're going to tell me that biological sex doesn't exist because 'the CDC told us that sex is a spectrum and you can change it by having a gender feeling.'

No. 2472209

>>2472160
Not wanting some weird new gene therapy injected into your body isn't a party affiliation anon.

>>2472167
>I got written up for being alone inside a 47,000 sq ft warehouse without a mask
Lol this reminds me of that news story where two hikers were climbing some remote mountain in the US and they sent helicopters to get them off the mountain because they were 'spreading COVID' lmao.

>>2472174
Shit like this happened in Canada too, there were videos of people being interned in weird prison camps in the North of Alberta when they tested positive at their oil rig jobs. Some guy 'escaped' the facility and filmed the whole thing it was insane, but also there were just regular 1-2 month quarantine hotels for anyone who came from overseas/visited another country too that were less secretive.

>>2472190
It really just shows how effective government propaganda and brainwashing procedures are that in 2025 with all the hundreds/thousands of pubmed articles confirming 'covid skepticism' you still get people acting like being skeptical of big pharma gene therapies is the same thing or at least similar to flat-eartherism. Forget that most of the world's most accomplished scientists didn't buy into the vax grift, The News Man said so.

No. 2472246

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>>2472196
>Again do you have actual evidence that regular mask-wearing by large numbers of people was ever actually 'widespread' in Japan? Or is your evidence just 'I saw a movie 10 years ago and some people were wearing masks in the crowd and I know for sure it was because preventing diseases even though Japan didn't have less colds than any other country'?
Nta but actually yes. At least since 150 years ago it's been a thing for influenza, privacy concerns (being seen out in public), no makeup days, hiding tiredness etc.


>Masks started to be used in Japan in the 1870s, about 150 years ago. At the time, people working at coal mines and factories wore the masks to protect themselves from dust. It is said that black masks were the most popular as dirt does not stand out with this color.



>In general, masks are often used for preventing epidemics. In Japan, people wear masks in many cases to avoid passing on germs to other people if they catch a cold or an infectious disease. On the other hand, a large number of people in Japan put on masks in public places even if they are not feeling unwell. One reason for this is hay fever, a condition present in about 30% of Japanese people.

Hay fever refers to the sneezing, runny nose, and other symptoms that people feel due to an allergic reaction that happens when pollen enters the body from Japanese cedars, Japanese cypresses, or other trees. There is a large amount of pollen in the air during the spring and fall in particular, and many Japanese people suffer symptoms such as sneezing and runny nose during these seasons. Wearing a mask helps to ease these symptoms, so Japanese people suffering from hay fever have a custom to wear masks at school or work as well as when going outside.

https://web-japan.org/trends/11_culture/pop202008_mask-culture.html

No. 2472255

>>2472097
This is good advice nonna and thanks for posting it. The way to fight this feeling is to live a good life that you're happy with if you can. Despair is the first psyop.

>>2472130
>in what way are they contrite… are they just trying to paper things over?
Well… At this point I'll accept trying to paper things over. At least for long term friends and family. I think the real driver for the covid situation and brainwashing was to divide families and make people trust each other less. I mean, just look at how divisive this topic still is, you know? You cannot have a civil discussion about it and the shills just repeat the same lines over and over with 0 thought. I'll accept papering it over if it means I can still be in my family's life and keep lifelong friends. My mom has said she regrets how much she "got into it" and no longer has the TV on the news all day. But I can definitely understand the feelings of nonnas who don't want to risk being turned on again lol.

>>2472246
>posts something from 2020 as proof
um…
but anyway even setting aside if it's common in Japan or not (I'll accept that use of masks isn't unusual in the country, ntayrt) that has no bearing on whether they're effective specifically for covid or anything at all. There's already enough evidence that these masks don't do anything. They're a signaling for politeness at most.

No. 2472256

>>2472246
Sorry my bad, I should have asked, do you have any PRE-2020 evidence that regular mask-wearing by large numbers of people was widespread in Japan? You're basically confirming my prior assertion that
>some people would do it but most wouldn't and at any rate it was more from a sense of politeness or not wanting to visibly look like shit than any real belief that it stopped colds/flus from spreading
with your own assertion that
>it's been a thing for influenza, privacy concerns (being seen out in public), no makeup days, hiding tiredness etc.
But I was actually looking for evidence that it was actually widespread for a majority or even a large minority of East Asians to wear masks throughout flu season. I don't think anyone is denying that some Japanese people wore masks sometimes for various reasons.

>people working at coal mines and factories wore the masks to protect themselves from dust

>due to an allergic reaction that happens when pollen enters the body
So two types of particles dramatically larger than viral particles which masks actually have some chance of stopping or minimizing. Got it. I'm still asking about respiratory diseases here though.

Even your own post-2020 mask normalization link states that
>masks have not been popular among people in Japan for so long
but the link provides no actual numbers or stats on the prevalence of mask usage for influenza other than just stating that it 'became increasingly common.'

No. 2472275

>>2472255
>Despair is the first psyop.
It really is. One of the things the whole COVID debacle taught me was that I can't just sit around waiting for society to get better to have the kind of life that I want. There are lots of terrible and disturbing things about our modern society and there are reasons to worry about a collapse but there are also tons of amazing opportunities modern society grants us that many of our forebears didn't have, like access to almost infinite information for free via the internet, access to almost infinite people for free via the internet, fairly widespread women's rights especially the right to work and control our own finances, increased geographical mobility, generally abundant (if low quality) food and clean(ish) water, low incidence (ironically considering the current topic) of deadly disease, etc. So I see no point in despairing and overfocusing on the bad aspects of modern society or doomerism, even though it's good to stay wary and keep up to date. We have a lot of control over our fate compared to women even 100-200 years ago and we should take that opportunity and live well.

>brainwashing was to divide families and make people trust each other less

This is a typical goal of all authoritarian regimes. I think you're right that when it comes to your own family it can be worth it to accept papering things over, but I also think that with voluntary associations like friends/acquaintances I'd be less likely to do that. I have been carefully curating the friends I put time and energy into now after seeing 5 years ago that many people I considered 'friends' would literally throw me under a moving bus or sell me out to the stasi if they had the chance. I don't want/need people like that in my life anymore and my life has been a lot better after removing them. The thing is as much as 'the government was trying to divide us' is true, it's also true that the people who turned against you had a choice not to do that and they did it anyway. I wouldn't want to be locked in a bunker with that kind of person when the next Bad Thing happens. At the end of the day it was their choice and I had plenty of people in my life who didn't throw me under the bus or wish for my death, so I'll be sticking with those people from now on.

>that has no bearing on whether they're effective specifically for covid or anything at all

In fact if mask wearing for flu season had been extremely widespread in Japan/China/SK prior to 2020 it would actually be further evidence that they're ineffective (not like we don't already have enough evidence), because it's not like those countries had dramatically fewer ILI cases than other high-pop nations. I just think it's funny how hard Westerners try to retcon this when every recent East Asian immigrant I know is like 'uh no that's fake and we never did that.'

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>>2472255
>>2472256
>>2472275
>>that has no bearing on whether they're effective specifically for covid or anything at all
>In fact if mask wearing for flu season had been extremely widespread in Japan/China/SK prior to 2020 it would actually be further evidence that they're ineffective (not like we don't already have enough evidence), because it's not like those countries had dramatically fewer ILI cases than other high-pop nations. I just think it's funny how hard Westerners try to retcon this when every recent East Asian immigrant I know is like 'uh no that's fake and we never did that.'

I'm thankful that this prompted me to search for an extensive research paper from 2014 that hopefully answers you and the above nonas' questions. It does give thought to whether it's ritualistic or actually effective though.

>Although the general public reacted negatively to this compulsory mask-wearing, San Francisco, for example, achieved a sharp decline of new flu cases after the enforcement of its Mask Order. This case became known as a successful battle against Spanish influenza. Barry (2005: 375), however, argues: “The city had simply been lucky.” Nonetheless, in contrast to “the paralysing fear found in too many other communities,” people in San Francisco “felt a sense of control:” “They thought that they had controlled it, that they had stopped it” (Barry 2005: 375). Although these masks might have been in fact useless against the influenza virus itself, they gave people a sense of control over the pandemic.


>The Japanese post-Spanish influenza pandemic report Ryūkōsei Kanbō (Naimushō Eiseikyoku 2008 [1922]) tells that Japanese health authorities had learnt by autumn 1918 how Western nations had responded to the pandemic, including mask-wearing in San Francisco and other cities. In February 1919, according to the report, the National Public Health Bureau instructed local authorities to encourage people to wears masks in places where flu patients were admitted and other places with a high risk of infection. This was followed by more detailed guidelines, which added mask-wearing in crowds, on trains, and on trams. Notably, mask-wearing was recommended to healthy people, but not to flu patients. Meanwhile, those who were coughing and sneezing were told to cover their noses and mouths with handkerchiefs or tenugui (literally, hand clothes), but not by masks. In October 1919, local authorities were instructed to provide free masks to those who could not afford them. Theatres, cinemas, and buses were added to the list of the places where masks should be worn.


>In contrast to the American “Mask Order,” mask-wearing in Japan was well received by the public. The post-pandemic report Ryūkōsei Kanbō (Naimushō Eiseikyoku 2008 [1922]) indicates high level of mask-wearing in Japan. In Fukui Prefecture in 1920, for example, it was estimated, according to information obtained from 14 police stations, that some 80 per cent of all households were using masks


etc. etc. But my point is not to argue effectiveness at slowing the spread of flu germs alongside other preventative measures, but to prove that Japanese have been wearing them for various reasons for ages before CoVid. I've known about it myself since the early 2010s, I can even ask my partner and inlaws about it, but i'd rather not devolve into "trust me bro, so-and-such person from (whatever demographic) said (x thing) which proves my point" since that wouldn't be very helpful or convincing.

https://www.japanesestudies.org.uk/ejcjs/vol14/iss2/horii.html

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>>2472306
There is plenty of real science showing that masks are not effective for stopping flu anon, we don't have to rely on anecdata like
>San Francisco, for example, achieved a sharp decline of new flu cases after the enforcement…
since flu and other viruses decline naturally after they peak. You can find plenty of articles from the time both arguing the masks didn't (and couldn't possibly, physically) do shit (which remains true and known by fluid physicists and OSHA people today) and talking about how unpopular the mask mandate was in San Francisco at the time. It is interesting that the article mentions a 'sense of control' though since this was often cited by public health authorities pushing mask-wearing in 2020 as a good reason to implement masks. Like some anons said above, the mask mandates were about a 'sense of control' rather than about stopping COVID transmission, which they already knew wouldn't work. If you're interested you can let me know and I can dig up some sources about this but if not I won't bother. There's another quote about this later in the article:
>‘Risk ritual’ also constructs the same double meaning. The term indicates apparent ‘irrationality’ of risk discourse in the clinical context in which a probabilistic talk would not increasing the chance of avoiding illness (Crawford 2004), and various apparent risk avoidance behaviours, which do not reduce actual risks they are associated (Moore and Burgess 2011). At the same time, ‘risk ritual’ articulates the behavioural adaptation to “a pervasive sense of uncertainty” and “a collective sense of disempowerment” (Moore and Burgess 2011: 119), in which “[o]ne must acts as if one is in control” (Crawford 2004: 523).

>post-pandemic report Ryūkōsei Kanbō (Naimushō Eiseikyoku 2008 [1922]) indicates high level of mask-wearing in Japan. In Fukui Prefecture in 1920, for example, it was estimated, according to information obtained from 14 police stations, that some 80 per cent of all households were using masks

This was during the 1918 influenza specifically, not generally in the last 100 years. Your article does suggest that
>between 22.8 per cent (Interwired 2009) and 48.7 per cent (Hakugen 2010) of respondents wore masks as a protection against influenza
but does not actually suggest that mask-wearing (for everyone) was widespread throughout flu season. It specifically says that
>Another survey published in 2009 showed that about three out of four respondents were willing to wear masks when suffering from a cough (what the article doesn't mention was that this study was conducted by a mask manufacturer, Unicharm).
>The term “cough manner,” which was mentioned earlier, had originally appeared as “cough etiquette” (seki echiketto) in PIEAC’s minutes in 2006, as well as in the Japanese version of the government’s influenza guidelines. In the popular media discourse, when the term appeared in March 2007, it did not initially mean wearing masks, but covering your nose and mouth with tissue paper or handkerchiefs, when coughing or sneezing. Masks, however, became included in the term in October 2007. Thereafter, “cough etiquette” became almost equal to mask-wearing by those coughing and sneezing.
so not like during COVID where throughout the entire 'COVID season' everyone was wearing masks whether sick or not, the article only states that people 'were willing to wear them' when they themselves actively were sick, which goes back to the politeness point me and other nonnas made. This tracks with what I myself have heard from Japanese immigrant friends who said that people who were actively sick or had allergies would wear masks on the train etc. or at work but that it was at most 1/10 or 1/20 people at any given time, not a majority of society every flu season. And Japan is actually fairly unique in this; my Chinese and Korean friends said it was far less common for sick people than in Japan. I also followed the links for the 2 cited surveys claiming high prevalence of mask wearing and both led to 404 not found pages, so I'm guessing these were small news surveys at best (one was by a mask manufacturer on their product website); I can't even confirm that the cited surveys ever existed.

Another quote from the article suggests that even in situations where everyone was encouraged to wear masks, many people refused and they wore masks selectively:
>Masks were distributed at the shelters and everyone was encouraged to wear one, but while some women would wear one while preparing rice balls, others would not. The same women also would not always wear a mask when they were cooking. The priest told me to wear a mask when I went out to walk around town because of the dust, though he himself never wore one.
>The lack of clearly targeting and systematic usage suggests that the mask-wearing is practiced in an individualistic manner, not necessarily constructing a rigid collective norm around the practice, while it is “socially embedded as a general protective practice” (Burgess and Horii 2012: 1184)

At another point, the article states that mask-wearing re-emerged in the 80s due to the high number of people wearing them for hay fever, and, interestingly, this correlated to antivax sentiment:
>In the 1980s, when the hay fever mask became common in Japanese society, flu masks gradually reappeared. This comeback was triggered by the heightened anxieties over flu vaccination. Under the banner of “social protection,” the public health authority tried to control influenza by preventing its spread in schools at first. “However, in the late 1980s, questions about this policy and vaccine’s efficacy arose, and a campaign against vaccination began”
>The decline of flu vaccinations directed people to masks again, in the hope of protection against influenza.

This is neither here nor there but I find this line from the intro of your article very interesting:
>Furthermore, in the 2000s, the discourse around the practice of mask-wearing has been loaded by neoliberal ideology, which increasingly transfers responsibilities for managing health risks from the state to individuals. Mask-wearing has increasingly become its embodiment.
>In this context, mask-wearing has become “a disciplinary device in neoliberal politics” (Manzenreiter 2012: 81), which emphasises the responsibility of the individual for one’s health.
Presented without comment.

Picrel is a photo of a Tokyo train station on Dec 22, 2010. Note how many masks.

No. 2472342

>>2472255
>Despair is the first psyop.
Never forget: if the situation was really hopeless, the propoganda would be unnecessary

No. 2472347

>>2472337
Samefag but here's a timelapse video of Shinagawa station a few years before COVID, see if you can clock anyone wearing a mask.

No. 2472348

>>2472013
>>2472107
I can’t lucid dream at all. I’ve heard of people trying to read stuff on their dreams to trigger lucid dreaming cause reading or looking at your phone are usually not possible for most people in dreams (they can’t find their phones or anything written looks like gibberish) but I check my phone and read stuff ALL THE TIME in dreams. I’ve had dreams of sitting down and reading Wikipedia articles.

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>>2472347
Samefag, another pic of right outside Shinjuku station late Oct 2010. I'll stop now but I'll believe the actual photos and video footage and people who lived there over a survey done by a mask production company.

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>>2472347
that didn't take very long and there are three people wearing masks in >>2472352

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>>2472337
>There is plenty of real science showing that masks are not effective for stopping flu anon, we don't have to rely on anecdata like

No. 2472368

>>2472362
Yeah because they had covid instead. That is so funny. They just swapped out illnesses and cancel the flu to invent covid deaths

No. 2472383

>>2472359
Wow, one (in a video of thousands of people) and three (? I only see two), out of hundreds! Extremely widespread mask-wearing indeed! I am convinced that everyone wore masks during flu season in Japan now.

>>2472362
kek this is because flu was replaced by COVID. Flu virions are a similar size to COVID virions so if masks were responsible for this there wouldn't have been COVID either. That's also anecdata btw, again I offered to show you real science if you're interested.

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Can we get a Covid/pandemic/mask skepticism thread? cause this is specifically so fucking boring. I fucking hate this dumbass back and forth. And idk if it should even count as tinfoil since both sides have scientific studies and that’s what’s being discussed moreso than any tinfoil aspects to the pandemic. Grrrr stop being so boring there’s so much stuff to tinfoil about that ISNT COVID AND MASKS AND VACCINES

No. 2472395

>>2472383
you literally dared to find one person with a mask and he appeared as soon as the video switched from the shitty cctv footage kek

No. 2472404

>>2472392
You can just make a comment about what you want to talk about, anon. Personally I don't think alchemy, lucid dreaming or archons really count as 'tinfoils' as I understand them and lots of people think COVID vax shit is a 'conspiracy theory' (most of the shit people call conspiracy theories has actual evidence behind it) but the thread was dominated by archons, spirituality and gods discussions for weeks. Let people talk about the tinfoils they want to talk about and post about the ones you want to talk about. Anons could just as easily ask for a 'spirituality and gnosticism' thread but it all gets posted here. Actually if we can't talk about the conspiracy where almost all the world's economies were effectively shut down and subjected to authoritarianism by almost every single world government (almost like it was a… one world government decree) and some 6-7 billion people were coerced into getting a novel gene therapy injected into them, idk what even the point would be of pretending this is a thread about conspiracies. The biggest, most widespread and significant conspiracy in a century just happened and it's 'too boring'?

>>2472395
Yeah the one person wearing a mask isn't indicative of some society-wide norm that everyone was participating in. I hate to tell you that's not what 'a majority or large minority' means. No one at any point in the thread denied that occasionally a singular Asian person would wear a mask pre-2020.

No. 2472426

>>2472404
Where is there any evidence that the Covid vaccine is “gene therapy”?

No. 2472433

>>2472426
It was invented by a guy named Gene

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>>2472426
Uh it literally definitionally is. All you have to do to see that this was commonly accepted fact until the 2020 propaganda push is to adjust your slider on a pubmed search to before 2020. Picrel.

No. 2472435

>>2472426
… The mRNA part.

>>2472392
I wouldn't mind more of a mix of topics. Honestly. I feel like the covid stuff just gets so heated. If there were a thread only for that, it would just be another unpopular opinions thread, ie infight central

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>>2472434
Samefag here's another one

No. 2472440

>>2472348
I see my phone in dreams too… I remember seeing memes a while back about how you see your phone irl so often and yet never see it in a dream. And… now I do see it in my dreams. I haven't purposefully tried to lucid dream very much but I have had a few dreams where I just spontaneously realized it's a dream, those are fun. I should work on it

No. 2472444

>>2472435
There's been a wide mix of topics on this thread anon, the COVID thing just came up last weeks after months of people talking about other things. 'It gets heated' seems like a weird excuse not to talk about a conspiracy in the conspiracy thread. I wouldn't mind if there were more specific threads for specific things but there used to be a COVID thread where discussion of vaccines and similar was banned and people were directed to this thread instead so farmhands clearly prefer for the discussion to happen here. People will argue 'it doesn't belong in the thread' no matter what people discuss in this thread because it seems like such a wide range of topics is discussed here from like random philosophical gnosticism talk to glowy stuff to COVID to sexism. But I guess people with an issue should post in /meta/ since the thread OP just says
>Do you have somewhat schizophrenic beliefs that worry your friends and family? Tired of getting red-texted for "tinfoiling" about recent events around the globe? If so, you've come to the right place.
>Discussions surrounding government cover-ups, entertainment industry secrets, odd predictions, political intrigues, etc., are all welcome here.
Personally I think the COVID shit is a proven conspiracy and less 'conspiracy theorish' than half the stuff talked about in random /ot/ country and politics threads, not a 'conspiracy theory' at all but I'm sure a lot of people in other threads would disagree with me, so…

No. 2472449

>>2472444
Ayrt, I'm not against covid discussion… I'm against it having a containment zone where it can just be a 24/7 infight instead of having little breaks.

No. 2472452

>>2472449
Oh I get it, that makes sense. I just check up on this thread every once in a while and if it's something I'm not interested in I leave unless I have something I really want to post about.

No. 2473184

>>2472440
I have seen it too. I have bizarre mini sleep episodes from time to time where I just continue to dream about what I am doing right now and sometimes it's using my phone. It's very confusing because I don't know what I actually did and what I imagined.

No. 2473385

>>2473184
Wow that's scary. I only had one dream like that when I had a high stress job. I kept waking up to do a task, but I was actually dreaming doing the task. When I finally woke up for real, it was very strange.

I just had a dream where I saw my phone. I was trying to turn on my VPN, but I couldn't make sense of my phone's lockscreen. I've only recently been seeing my phone in my dreams… how odd.

No. 2475440

>>2473385
My phone always upgrades to whatever type of phone I have currently for the most part, so I’ve dreamed of using my phone since I had a moto rzr flip phone kek. Nowadays I often dream I’m locked out of my phone or it just isn’t fucking working when I try to use it, like it’s got insane lag. Don’t have that issue when using a desktop pc in my dreams though, which, desktops and consoles and TVs have figured prominently in my dreams and since childhood since we’ve always had such things.

The scariest thing to experience in dreams are smells imo. Doesn’t anyone else have smells feature in their dreams? Even if it’s a good smell and a good dream, it’s always offputting. And yet I still can’t fucking lucid dream. My dreams basically non linear improvised narratives that I have seemingly no conscious control over. My friend has fantastical dreams as well and the only times she’s been able to sort of lucid dream, she was like “oh hey I’m dreaming!” - all the characters in her dream world turn evil and start screaming SHUT IT DOWN! SHUT IT DOWN! until she wakes up. She’s also read stuff in her dreams.
>>2473184
I don’t have episodes like that but I have very realistic dreams to the point I often confuse things that happen in my dreams to things that have really happened. Sometimes it’s goofy though. Like when I dreamed I saw a Taco Bell commercial announcing that the Quesalupa was back. I told my friend that day that I’d seen an ad about the quesalupa being back and got a call later and he was like “did you really see a commercial about the quesalupa? Cause I just got done at the third Taco Bell and none of them have it” and I was like oh shit maybe I dreamed it. And I had. They did eventually bring the quesalupa back but it wasn’t until a couple years after my dream about it being back.

No. 2475462

Elon Musk has asperger's

No. 2475915

>>2435162
im in the USA and my small town 711 sells porn and it is not even hidden. They are right next to the other magazines and books alongside the window. We all used to look at them as stupid kids and the clerks didnt even stop us. Are most other 711s not like this?

No. 2475925

>>2475915
Probably a franchised 7/11 and not a corporate owned/operated one. This is not the norm. You could probably report this store to 7/11 corporate, btw, I’m pretty sure it’s against their policy and a franchisee isn’t allowed to be selling smut.

No. 2475973

>>2472348
You can just use your hands. During the day you sometime look at your hands and count your fingers. When yu make that a habit, then it starts to happen in your dreams too and in a dream you always have more fingers than normal and so you know it's a dream. I don't think i ever dreamt abnout my pohne that's interresting that you do.
>>2472440
That's great you should work on it.
>>2475440
I very rarely have dreams with smells but it's usually a good smell when i'm hugging someone i like or something like that

No. 2475977

>>2475973
I have never had a dream where I had more fingers than I do in reality. I’ve dreamed I could fly but it felt real because it had actual mechanics that I could seemingly control (if I held my breath I’d start floating and as I exhaled I would descend).

No. 2476181

>>2475440
The only lucid dream I’ve ever had was very similar to your friend’s experience, but even scarier. A woman I know irl who has caused significant harm to me was my companion in the dream, but she was acting with more agency than my dream NPCs usually do. I eventually turned to her, and told her “you are not supposed to be here, I need you to leave my mind” and she legit straightened up and said “took you long enough” laughed at me and disappeared. Ironically she is some sort of Wiccan/ witchy type, and the whole experience really made me feel like that witchcraft is real and fucking evil

No. 2477131

>>2475462
everyone knows this

No. 2477132

>>2475462
He's diagnosed

No. 2478464

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I think a lot of alternative bands in the 90s were set up in the same way boy bands are and didn't actually write any of their own music. Whoever did probably died in 1998 or 1999. The only thing more difficult than returning to the moon seems to be creating a song that is "good" (or even worth listening to) for most of these "artists". Every year I work at my art (that I create myself) I get better, not worse

No. 2478664

>>2465461, >>2459440, and others who are experiencing 'synchronicities' gangstalking, voices.
please research psychosis

No. 2479505

>>2478664
Fuck off glowie retard neither of the anons you replied to seem even vaguely psychotic

No. 2479527

>>2479505
Nta but the demonically controlled secret algorithm of yt is just what other people are watching. That's the big secret, the ~genius ai system~ is other people's watch history who are in your network or who have watched similar obscure videos. The other scenario is one of the countless employees who work there and have nothing better to do than stalk accounts inserting their faggotry. The other last scenario is tech-loser ex who stalks a woman's account, declaring himself a 1337 h4x0r (bc he is a fag) due to the fact that he took advantage of the high trust and low expectations women temporarily had in moids when it comes to their devices and pw privacy, until they do something like this. I keep saying the government/big tech allowing moids to get away with so much now will be what pushes the pendulum when it comes to how society will over-correct what is now an extremely common problem. I'm sure the (tech-bro) solution will be expensive but protect women from the problem they created and allowed to flourish

No. 2479634

>>2479527
Also NTA but yeah the yt algo will literally just feed you the shit that contact in your phone you whatsapp a lot was recently watching, also it's tracking your internet activity (I also think devices with voice recognition enabled actually do use it for algos and ads even when they claim not to - I once saw a company logo on a t-shirt with my friends while we were on a forest hike with no cell signal and we discussed what the company was, when we got back home we all got spammed with ads for the company even though we'd never heard of it before and it wasn't relevant to any of our jobs or interests which I think has to be due to the microphone 'listening' and logging conversations or keywords from conversations.

>he took advantage of the high trust and low expectations women temporarily had in moids when it comes to their devices and pw privacy, until they do something like this.

I probably can't find it anymore because I read the article years ago, but there was an article about the ethics of an app some company had developed for men to install in their wife's phone. Basically it was some kind of virus link that the moid would text his "wife" (or whoever) disguised as an innocuous meme, would secretly install on the phone and then would run psyops on the wife to try to get her to want more sex through various 'behavioral nudge' strategies. It doesn't sound like it should even be legal but apparently it was legal and a lot of people were using it.

No. 2479641

>>2479634
>would psyop them into wanting sex through behavioral nudging
Holy shit more on this?

No. 2479647

>>2479634
Idk this is not surprising to me at all but the netflix special and subsequent $$$ tech will be interesting. If moids really wanted more sex they would do something about the housing and unemployment crisis. How is "behavioral nudging" going to change the fact that most women can't live on their own and afford rent? I only consider sex with an idiot scrote when independence seems like an option, considering they want to be alone to do stupid shit like this instead of having women live with them all of the time, you would think the 5-D chess geniuses would team up to facilitate that but I guess this operation was brought to you by the same retards who conditioned girls to grow into tifs at their favourite age

No. 2479649

>>2479641
I just spent like 5 minutes trying to find the article I originally read and I can't find it, it seems like its existence has been totally wiped from Google. But I know I wasn't imagining it because I sent it to multiple people to discuss and one of the people interviewed for the article was my close friend's coworker. I just asked someone I discussed it with before if they remember the article and they do so it definitely happened. Maybe they got in legal trouble and wiped all the webpages/press articles about it?

If you're asking what the behavioural nudges actually were, iirc it worked through hijacking some of your ad space (I think it was partially developed by a major big 3 tech company, which is why my friend's coworker was interviewed for the article because they worked there) and replacing a few of your 'normal' ads with libido-enhancement nudges, like things that would make you think about sex repeatedly through the day and ramp up in the evening. There might have also been some element of stuff that promoted having more sex as normal or good for your health or something. I sound schizo but it wasn't like porn or anything, more like sneaky little things about how 'the key to a happy relationship is good sex' nudges and so on.

No. 2479651

>>2479647
It was marketed as something specifically for married men to install on their wife's phone (since getting it to install on the other phone required some level of trust) and might have had some level of personalization, so I don't think the goal was to make Women (in general) want more sex. I think the goal was to make A Specific Woman want sex on A Specific Day And Time with the man that installed the app on her phone.

No. 2479653

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>>2479651
Was it "pegasus"? Moids are super into this kind of thing now bc they psy-opped themselves into bambi hypno and believe they can do the same to women. I'm sure they caused their wives to masturbate more to other men, since their efforts to avoid confronting the truth about things and creating an entertaining diversion always fail in hilarious and ironic ways

No. 2479656

>>2479653
No it wasn't Pegasus, it was iirc just being used for the one singular purpose of psyopping men's wives into 'having a higher libido' and I don't think it was super sophisticated or undetectable either. This is going to haunt me now.

No. 2479660

>>2479656
I tried to google for you but searched "tracker app libido enhancing" and wanted to cut my fingers off so I have no idea how moids live within their bodies. I believe you anon. I hadn't looked into pegasus bc I'd rather watch this in the eventual documentary than read that much into the topic but it's likely the next phase in gross scammy male things and is selling their data for my own tinfoil >>2479527

No. 2479661

>>2479660
Yeah lol I was wondering if it's limiting my search results because it thinks I'm some sort of sex pest. The thing I remember really distinctively from the article about it is that when they interviewed my friend's coworker he basically went on this long rant about how 'it's not that we can't use AI/tech for better things than this, but this is what people WANT AI and tech to be used for so that's what consumers get. If you want us to use these technologies for something wholesome or positive, you, all the customers, have to create the demand and be willing to pay for and use the apps!'

No. 2479743

>>2479505
research psychosis in the clinical sense not as a buzzword used to insult. It all goes away if you take meds.

No. 2480139

Satan is God's own glowie agent sent to misdirect humanity but Lucifer/the serpent in Eden is a different being meant to help lead us out of false. Lucifer was the first of God's creations to reach gnosis and that's why the serpent helped Eve decide to eat the fruit of the tree of knowledge (of good and evil). Satan (God's special little boy) has taken over and twisted what Lucifer wanted to do. Lucifer realized that Sophia was the true creator, and that the material world and the shell surrounding it would ultimately become a cage, a trap of eternal suffering and misery beholden to the whims of small gods. Thats why the Christians originally started to see Satan not as God's little helper, but as an evil agent working against God. Satan allowed himself to be conflated with Lucifer to ridicule the notion that there is wisdom beyond God. The biggest trick the devil pulled was tricking the world into thinking he exists.

No. 2480169

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Flu vaccines don't seem to work well. I'm glad I've never gotten one.

No. 2480221

>>2480169
No shit, we've known flu vaccines don't work well (or at all) for decades. They never even encouraged people under 70 to take them until COVID happened and everyone suddenly had to be 24/7 performatively obsessed with vaccines.

No. 2480254

>>2479743
And I bet your annoying retardation goes away if you take drugs.

No. 2480952

>>2479661
Dw I totally believe you, google memory holes things all the time, especially news and something of this nature. The technology for it is there already and men already have proven they use technology for depraved things so it’s not far-fetched to imagine either.

No. 2480990

The populace being discouraged from voting through false equivalence and a cheap sense of superiority that comes from claiming "both sides bad" seems to be a rightoid (and maybe foreign agent) psyop to me. Leftists hold strict purity tests on their candidates and will refuse to vote based on singular issues, staying divided, whereas rightoids band together, drink the kool-aid, and vote for their candidates even at the expense of their own well being every single time. Undermining democracy to the point that we're too hopeless to care or think we can make any difference just ensures that it's easier for us to slip into a fascist autocracy like what we're seeing now. There will never be a strong enough third party in this lifetime because people are too busy bitching and being distracted by smoke and mirrors to where they're left with nothing but two party choices. It would take at least a decade to establish a solid third party but at the same time, it's almost impossible to run successfully without lobbyist funding so we're stuck in this loop where we're damned if we do and damned if we don't.

No. 2481036

>>2480990
Trump is essentially a third party though

No. 2481300

>>2480990
This isn't a rightoid psyop (there's a lot of people who think this) and in my country I know more right-wingers and conservatives who refuse to vote because of hating our options for right wing parties than leftists. It's an international elite psyop to maintain the globalist status quo, which is represented usually by both (or all 3-4) of the major parties in any given country. The only reason Trump had so much effective grassroots support last election was because he effectively is (or is perceived as) a third party, as >>2481036 pointed out. He had 'big tent' and/or 'protest vote' appeal; if you look at historical voting trends republicans almost always had fewer voters overall for the past half-century or so even though general sentiment in America hasn't skewed pro-Democrat consistently.

People also refuse to vote in countries with more than two parties (Canada, for example, has much lower voter turnout than the US, and even Australia in which it is illegal not to vote still has non-voters and many ballot spoilers). If what you were saying were true it shouldn't happen in countries with more parties where coalitions can be formed but it does because even in those countries people feel like they have no real political options and not voting is a protest against that.

>we're too hopeless to care or think we can make any difference

That's not what people who refuse to vote necessarily think, though. For a lot of non-voters it's a question of principle/morality. They don't want to actively vote for a party they don't agree with. Anyway if globalists stopped ensuring that every party on the ballot is almost the exact same party you'd get higher voter turnout. That's why you saw such unusually high voter turnout for Trump, including from a lot of registered Democrats/former Democrat voters - it's because he appeared to be an anti-establishment option that was actually listening to voters about what they wanted. The idea that just adding another party or two will suddenly make your political system work is ridiculously naive.

At any rate Americans imagining themselves to be in a 'fascist autocracy' and a-bloo-blooing about it will never not be both hilarious and embarrassing. Imagine living in the country that almost everyone in the world wants to move to and thinking you're, like, literally Nazi Germany.

No. 2481314

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>married women who got their right to vote taken away
>Martial law will be declared on 4/20
>Recession
>But but Kamalas campaign was mid!!!
>And her laugh was weird

Hope "Kamalas campaign was terrible" was worth starving and becoming homeless you stupid fucks(wrong thread)

No. 2481325

>>2481036
>same old wealthy republican elites keeping their boot on us all considered as a third party
The illusion of choice, huh?

No. 2481419

>>2481314
>Posting in the tinfoil thread
>Hasn't even realized the recession started several years ago under biden
This post belongs in whatever thread serves as the anti-tinfoil thread, the 'I believe everything the media tells me' thread perhaps?

>>2481325
Yes, Trump is not as anti-establishment as he's presented himself (although large numbers of other Republicans hating him suggests he's at least a semi-outsider for real) but his election (twice now) is still indicative of the fact that voters will turn out in surprising numbers for what they perceive as a third option if that option isn't just a same-samey variant of the other two. One of the biggest gripes 2016 MAGAtards had with Trump's first term was that it was too RINO-aligned and he overpromised/underdelivered. Voter apathy isn't a psyop of any particular party, it's a reaction to the global elite psyop of having every party in their pockets doing identical things. Even Bernie Bros in 2016 didn't stay home because they were apathetic, they stayed home as a fuck you to the betrayal of the DNC railroading their preferred non-establishment candidate.

>>2481360

Even Obama apparently was fighting against making Kamala the candidate, it's absolute retardation to pretend her campaign was 'mid' when even other Democratic politicians were panicking at her total retardation. The problem is that none of the parties will voluntarily offer up 'good' candidates because a prerequisite to get any power in the political system is being in the pockets of the system in the first place. They're dead-set on denying voters any access to viable options, that's the whole grift.

No. 2481456

>>2481419
I love when normies catch on to a recession. It means it's almost over and the good times can begin again

No. 2483239

I am always extremely suspicious of wealthy people who blow up on social media sites out of nowhere and especially in the current climate in the US where the rich will grow exponentially richer and the poor poorer I'm very wary of this one nice looking young Asian lady who recently blew up on tiktok for sharing her daily life whilst being fabulously wealthy. Her videos aren't downloadable so I won't post but her @ is beccaxbloom. I don't think she is actually a malicious figure (aside from looking anachan as fuck), she looks very nice and sweet but I believe the algorithm might be pushing her account so they can paint a favorable image of the wealthy elite class/make them look 'relatable' when the wealth gap grows even larger. Her wealthiness seems almost superficial to me, like a performance and I wouldn't be surprised if she's an actress because the wealth in which she lives in seems very fabricated, like a non-wealthy person's idea of what the rich do, when in reality extremely rich people often hide their assets/wealth to protect themselves or because they have enough money to do so.

No. 2483260

>>2483239
Everyone knows it's bots and paid subscribers, only literal retards and children believe inflated subscriber numbers on any platform at this point. Most of the time, it's more than one person and they hire an actress to play a part they already have in mind (white monkey). Most people (moids) figured this out early on with twitch (and sites like "twitch metrics") then spread that awareness to reddit npcs (like how very few of them noticed filters until r/instagramreality became popular). You could run a channel that sees less than a 100 views per video and earn more from (actual) subscribers on patreon, than someone like the woman you mention. It will probably become common knowledge, like the "warpy wall" in the background of photoshop fails from the mid-2010s. The problem with dumb ideas is that there are so many likeminded people who can't wait to try them

No. 2483267

>>2465024
youtube already tried the ID verification thing iirc

No. 2483500

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No. 2483628

>>2483500
It's stunning how little information there is in general about him compared to other shooters

No. 2483632

do you think its true that moid animators put weird creatures or themes in seemingly innocent anime about girls just because they know that fans are going to make porn art of it involving both? i heard after spirited away came out many people made art of her getting raped by the radish spirit, haku as a dragon, no face, the weird frog guys who look supiciously like old ugly bastards etc etc. i never give male artists the benefit so i could believe they are perverts who do this intentionally. same thing happened with hatsune miku, endless porn of her was made involving her using her leek as a dildo.

No. 2483636

>>2472449
As a matter of fact there are at least 10 past COVID threads somewhere here

No. 2483637

>>2483632
Men will make porn out of anything. There is porn of fucking roblox.

No. 2483638

>>2483260
This. Even top artists and celebrities use bots to increase their follower and subscriber count. You can buy 1000 fake followers for like a dollar these days. Also there's certain tricks to getting into the algorithm, and many of these OF girls, e-celebs, streamers etc are actually signed to legitimate talent agencies in LA who do all this obsessive marketing campaign to shill them. Nothing you see online is real anymore.

No. 2483641

>>2483637
i agree but in hindsight i did find it a bit odd how there's a lot of unnecessarily phallic imagery and characters in many of these seemingly innocent animes.

No. 2483645

>>2483628
Most of the past shooters have been alt right so they hide as much information on them as possible. I also remember, despite him being a registered Republican, people kept saying he donated to Democrats while he was a minor, then when it was pointed out the donation was actually from an old man with the same name, all the said was "well addressed are just weird"

No. 2483646

>>2475462
He's just a socially awkward narcissist imo who lacks empathy so much that he actually seems soulless. He claims to have a traumatic and violent childhood and a narcissistic meanie father but was also materialistically very spoiled which is a perfect storm for a narcissist moid. If he was actually aspergers he would be good at those games at least kek.

No. 2483648

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>>2483637
Paheal has nothing about the videogame Descent. I find this surprising

No. 2483654

>>2483632
I also noticed moid writers tend to inset their weird fetishes in shows. Dan Schneider being the most prominent ofc. It's basically less obvious elsa gate

No. 2484474

Patton Oswalt killing his wife. She allegedly died from an undiagnosed heart condition after dosing too much Xanax, adderall and Fent. Why in the hell would she be taking those three drugs in conjunction in the first place? Makes even more sense when he went on to marry a different woman like a year later who looked a lot like her.

No. 2484969

>>2483500
It's because he's ugly and dead so no one gives a shit.

No. 2486739

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https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39691656/

Apparently they're casually dropping the fact masks were ineffective and caused more harm?

No. 2486752

Oldie but a goodie, thoughts on JFK?

No. 2487490

>>2486752
CIA offed him plus he was a whore of a man

No. 2487684

>>2486739
Kek no shit, many people knew this but the braindead shills kept gaslighting sane people. Don't get me wrong I'll gladly wear a mask if I have a bad cold and I have to be in contact with people for a short time, but masks are completely useless if you're among a lot of people for hours, you reuse it, handle it and it's the surgical kind that isn't even fitted. You are not meant to wear masks for that long anyway, and they're not good for children (and again, they're mostly useless). It was funny seeing people with simple cloth masks too.

No. 2487979

>>2487684
Zero COVID community are lunatics who can't admit they're wrong. They went from worshipping fauci to bashing him because he didn't continue their COVID fear mongering. They only find studies that confirm their beliefs and can't even be bothered to look at ones not sponsored by companies. It will always be funny to me about how fast the "pro science" crowd screamed and ignored doctors and scientists

No. 2488414

I miss /x/ humor threads, the rest of the board was 99,99% trash
>>2486752
Watch JFK Revisited: Through the Looking Glass (2021), it's a nice piece of the puzzle. Also, JFK was against making war with Vietnam, mind you that they used that "war" to introduce a lot of heroin to the US. Most vets had in fact not only PTSD but also abstinence syndrome.

No. 2488620

>>2417011
i suspect it's to aide somehow in the formation of graphene oxide based self assembling nanotech (nanotech made from GO that assembles when exposed to certain EM frequencies or UV light)
like fucking….wires

No. 2488891

>>2486739
How is this a conspiracy? This is a well known fact and has been forever. All you had to do was read any science paper or evidence based medicine article about it, or even OSHA guidelines. When COVID started even like The Atlantic and NYT were writing about how masks are pointless, the only conspiracy here is why they wanted to push them on people so hard in the first place but if you knew where to look they were pretty open about that too (behavioral modification).

>>2487684
If you have a bad cold even for a short time you're better off coughing/sneezing into your elbow or into a tissue/handkerchief than hoarding your snot in front of your face and pushing it out into the atmosphere every time you breathe. Above all they're just disgusting, we already had more sanitary cough etiquette before that didn't require trapping phlegm right next to your own face.

>>2487979
I know a musician who I used to be a fan of and met in person several times who is one of these zero COVID lunatics, I still follow him on social media just to see how long he will continue sperging 10x a day about how we 'must stop the virus!' He's completely tanked his own career by refusing to play concerts or, if he plays them, forcing people to COVID test and mask and provide proof of vaccination before coming to his shows so they keep getting canceled because no one shows up. He also went from making genuinely funny political and historical satire songs to putting out an entire unfunny pearl-clutching self-serious album about 'the virus' lmao.
>the "pro science" crowd screamed and ignored doctors and scientists
As a scientist I noticed this from the very beginning lmao, I was trying to inject some sanity into discussions right from the start of the COVID fiasco and the number of people with a high school education or like fine arts bachelor degree absolutely flipping their lids at me for talking about scientific reality was truly startling. If you asked them 'so why not believe this scientist with a nobel prize and 200 published articles?' they'd just say 'because I know better! I know which scientists to trust because they say rightthink!'

>>2488620
Interesting theory nonna but it's more likely we have microplastics everywhere because greedy fuckers want to pinch pennies and make everything cheap and convenient for themselves at risk of poisoning everyone else. Same reason Teflon and whatever continue to be widely used for shit like frying pans even though a stainless steel pan is actually cheaper and easier, it's profitable.

No. 2488895

>>2488891
You’re a scientist?

No. 2488902

>>2488895
Yeah well I was during COVID. I left academia after COVID.

No. 2488903

>>2488902
if youre a true scientist name all of the greatest hits in science if not youre a lientist

No. 2488904

>>2488903
Sorry nonna I'm not familiar with this joke

No. 2488909

>>2488902
You speak funny words magic man

No. 2488912

>>2488904
no worries nonna hope things are going well now!

No. 2488914

>>2488909
Idk why that is funny? A lot of people didn't want anything to do with the academia shitshow after that and I think it's more sad than anything since they managed to drive out a lot of the people with the right kind of brains/disposition for science aka curious and questioning people actually interested in sticking their necks out and being OK with potentially being proven wrong.

>>2488912
They're going OK I guess, don't have a clear life plan now but it's a weight off my back not feeling stifled by being constantly surrounded by conformist retards. The distant dream of becoming a tenured prof is kind of a dying dream anyway considering they're phasing tenure out (too costly and too hard to control the narrative!) so it's probably better for my long term prospects.

No. 2488920

>>2488914
You’ve got a raging case of autism anon. It’s obvious there were some jokes being thrown and your self proclaimed intelligence is not coinciding with your ability to distinguish such. Apologies for instigating the oblivious. Continue your previous COVID discussion without further interruption.

No. 2488923

>>2488920
I know they were jokes which is why I said "sorry nonna I'm not familiar with this joke." I also didn't proclaim my intelligence anywhere lmao?

No. 2488937

>>2488923
I didn’t get the joke either unless she’s implying you’re lying about being a scientist

No. 2488939

>>2488937
The first one seemed like a reference to something I didn't get, the second one was unfunny to me and the non-autistic thing to do would be to take the out when someone politely indicates they don't find the loss of their dream career hilarious. Nothing more autistic than doubling down and lashing out because "no you don't get it anon, you have to find my low-effort rude joke funny!"

No. 2488967

>>2488939
Anon for what it’s worth, efforts have been made to publish independent peer reviewed studies that wouldn’t get looked at by the establishment because they were too controversial. The future of science is probably elsewhere, though it might take a while to realize.

No. 2488976

>>2488967
Yeah I know, and in fact many studies have been published by mainstream 'reputable' journals, the problem is when they get too much attention or get flagged for wrongthink there is now a new practice of them being taken down or retracted without explanation. One of the issues with the new public peer review/arxiv type initiatives (I know arxiv also flags and takes down wrongthink but to a lesser degree probably) or 'independent journals' is that science papers barely get read by anyone as it is, and journal h factor is one of the main indicators whether papers are likely to be read (let alone cited) at all. Another, even bigger problem is that conducting science well is hideously expensive and grant funding increasingly depends upon staying on the right side of the right people. For a mathematician or some other kind of theoretical scientist (say a meta-analysis etc.) this might not be a huge problem if enough people are willing to put their free time into working on it and who have reliable datasets (there are other issues with this like corrupted databases which a lot of scientists who tried to crunch government numbers on COVID have written at length about) but if you're trying to do experimental research in a biomedical field you need labs, millions of dollars of sophisticated equipment, ethics approvals, etc. For clinical research you pretty much always need access to clinic/hospital populations and doctors, which requires pre-approval and rigorous ethics approvals, and if it's drug research it also requires access to the drugs themselves which can be limited by the companies that produce the drugs. I'd like to be optimistic about independent science but there are so many factors contributing to the maintenance of the ivory tower status quo that most people who get in will have no desire to ever get out unless they have some kind of corporate backing, which brings its own problems.

No. 2488996

has anyone here heard of the david hamblin /leavitt case? a youtuber called noor jasmine made a really good video about a guy involved (also called david but his last name is leavitt)
this guy is actually insane and has admitted crazy stuff on literal news segments. he tried to steal a baby from a native american family, and tried to buy the little girl off the tribe by apparently organising a buffalo trade between this tribe and ukrainian businessmen? he has many connections in ukraine, “sponsors” many families there, and is even friends with the ex ex president Yushchenko. the dude is clearly nuts and very well protected. Both him and his wife have been accused of ritual abuse. Leavitt actually admitted that he “knew victims” of it on tv, and then later described whilst laughing how to “train a child” into csa (vid linked)

No. 2489880

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The 9/11 rabbithole never gets old for me.
You start off thinking 'Huh, that's weird but maybe there's an innocent explanation' then 1000 coincidences later you're like 'Yeah ain't no fucking way.'

No. 2489889

>>2489880
Damn how did he survive 9/11? Did he jump?

No. 2489890

>>2489880
The date isn't too awfully weird, could have been a nosy employee going into his account on 9/19 idk. But i agree with you, the photos of the planes "hitting" the tower were so obvious to me. They got away with that low quality stuff because people were ignorant to technology and edited videos at the time

No. 2489891

>>2489890
What's the most obvious picture to you?

No. 2489896

>>2489890
Do you think that the attacks were fake (ie never happened) or that they were false flags (ie possibly sponsored by the US/US allies)?

No. 2489908

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>>2489880
Ziad Jarrah is the most mysterious terrorist to me. He was the only one with Lebanese nationality. He spoke Arabic, Hebrew, German and English. His family and gf and people who worked with/met him claimed he was extremely normal, a nice person, and didn't show any extremist tendencies. He was raised secular and drank alcohol. He is the only one who didn't hit the intended target. It's never been confirmed if his plane was shot down or if it really just crashed. He did not live with the other terrorists. German authorities couldn't find any evidence that he was part of the 'Hamburg terror cell.' The audio of flight 93 is very strange. His cousin Ali Jarrah was arrested and jailed a few years after 9/11 for being a Mossad spy/double agent. His burned passport with picture and full name still visible was found at the wreckage site.

No. 2489925

>>2489896
I think it happened, probably an explosion, but was planned. the new world order stuff checks out because stuff people were fear mongering about in 2001, early 2002 around me started happening around 2020 and even now.
>>2489891
I feel like the videos of the plane hitting are fake, it almost like disappeared when it "hits". And news banners conveniently covering it too

No. 2489982

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>>2489890
AYRT and I agree, I think the planes were completely fake PS1 tier visual projections and the entire event was a controlled demolition. You can see the 'planes' glitching from multiple angles in multiple videos.

ACE elevator company had just finished renovating the towers entire lift system, which would have given workers direct access to the core of the buildings. Hundreds of witnesses including firefighters confirmed hearing multiple huge explosions before the towers fell.

No. 2489992

>>2489982
9/11 is sus but I think that's just the shitty 2000's camera and lighting.

No. 2489996

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I also believe the 'hippie group' Gelitin/B-Thing/E-Team were all undercover federal agents posing as artists. Even their names are obvious references to Bomb, Explosion, and the explosive Gelignite which is a sticky bomb in controlled demolitions of buildings.

They were given full access to floor 91, which was unfinished and covered in electrical wires, exposed beams, unfinished walls, etc etc. They covered their 'work space' from floor to ceiling with cardboard boxes, of which they gave no explanation as to where they obtained them and removed window panes, even utilising a helicopter at one point to photograph people standing on the ledge. All of the boxes were marked BB 18 which is a type of fuse holder. They did these 'art exhibitions' in BOTH TOWERS. People who had their picture taken on the ledge and asked for their photos were refused by the group. The group's portfolio archives included sketches of the twin towers with people falling out of the windows while screaming, calling these falls 'seconds of pure pleasure'.

No. 2489997

Any conspiracy theories about Disney World's Club 33??

No. 2489998

>>2489992
NICE TRY GLOWIE

No. 2489999

>>2489982
>>2489992
Its weird how theres a huge explosion and how it disappears like that around 1:14. Seems more like explosives than jet fuel

No. 2490004

>>2489999
I mean, I buy it.
The CIA is known for falseflag operations and not really minding civil casualities so that would track.

No. 2490008

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>>2489997
First image that comes up on google is their checkered floor which is an obvious Masonic symbol and a reference to Solomon's temple/controlling both sides.

No. 2490009

>>2489997
>33
Disney has clear masonic roots. Here is an old cartoon from their rival company exposing them

No. 2490010

>>2490008
Also 33 is the highest rank in Freemasonry.

No. 2490011

>>2490009
My brother in law is a freemason should I be worried?

No. 2490018

>>2490011
Ayrt, nah, most people wouldn't have much importance to it. its just another fraternity. Most people aren't part of major lodges/groups

No. 2490024

>>2489982
I have also heard the witness accounts of hearing explosions beforehand and agree that (and many other things about the event) are suspicious but the video you posted doesn't look suspicious, the wing blends in because it's the same color as the wall. The person who made the video deliberately posterized thought they were being so smart by pixelating it to hell and back and then pretending the wing is glitching.

>>2489996
Never heard of this group before, do you have any sources about them?
>portfolio archives included sketches of the twin towers with people falling out of the windows while screaming, calling these falls 'seconds of pure pleasure'.
Wtf.

No. 2490648

>>2489999

don't even get me started on 9/11. I spent a good decade or more going down that rabbit hole. They planted explosives in all the buildings

No. 2491146

>>2490648
I still wanna hear what you have. I know a lot of stuff has been deleted and surpressed but i love hearing theories and proof
>>2489996
Are these the israeli art students

No. 2491456

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>>2491146
No the Israeli art students were supposedly a different bunch who got accidentally busted by the FBI. The dancing Israelis who had the Urban Moving Systems van. Gelatin were supposedly Austrian well maybe it's just me but they look like typical Ashkenazi IDF moids.

No. 2491457

Their works include
Vorm - Fellows - Attitude (2018) at the Museum Boijmans Van Beuningen, Rotterdam, The Netherlands: giant sculptures of feces, with visitors encouraged to put on costumes representing nude men and women[7]

Die Wachauer Nase (2014), a giant nose on the bank of the Danube River, in St. Lorenz (Rossatz-Arnsdorf), Wachau, Austria[9]

Zapf de Pipi (2005), a giant icicle of frozen urine as contributed by the visitors at the Moscow Biennale of Contemporary Art[14]

Arc de Triomphe (2003), a 7-metre (23 ft) tall fountain picturing a urinating figure made of 2,000 kilograms (4,400 lb) of plasticine, in Salzburg, Austria

Armpit (2002), a human elevator of body builders for the Liverpool Biennial

Schlund (2001), a human scaffolding of fat people at the Bavarian Theatre, Munich, Germany

The B-Thing (2000), a small temporary external balcony outside the 91st floor of the World Trade Center[15]

Can we talk about how male artists are a psyop?
99% of them are talentless ugly faggots with a shit/piss/necrophilia fetish.

No. 2491464

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Personally I don't buy too much into the Israel thing.
I actually think Israel may have encouraged the 'Israel did 9/11' conspiracy theory to make themselves look more powerful than they really are. They certainly have revelled in their fearsome/loathsome reputation for being ruthless when it comes to killing their enemies and seem to enjoy the publicity and encourage it for instance surrounding the pagers incident (for the record I don't care about Hamas scrotes getting their dicks blown off, it's just concerning when any government body interferes with personal electronic devices). This certainly doesn't help their case for shirking involvement but it's not proof either. To be honest nobody really cared or talked about Israel prior to 2001. Maybe it was a PR stunt to assure themselves as a global dominant power.

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>>2491457
>Can we talk about how male artists are a psyop? 99% of them are talentless ugly faggots with a shit/piss/necrophilia fetish.
We could make a whole tinfoil thread about this alone, especially since I actually know plenty of male artists who aren't like this and make perfectly normal, aesthetically pleasing art. But somehow the ones who get famous in the last century or so are almost always these 'political' or 'thought provoking' artists where by political or thought provoking they mean openly displaying fetishes and 'challenging' people by being degenerate and creepy. If it's not some kind of piss/shit fetish or pedophilia/torture content it's something that's supposed to be 'political' by just invoking really creepy dark shit like those denver airport murals. That statue outside the BBC offices they just spent like a million dollars restoring that was made by a pedophile (picrel) keeps being defended because 'separate the art from the artist!' and 'he's part of an important artistic legacy!' but the statue itself is obviously pedophilic; you would think that even if you didn't know the sculptor was a pedo. Why does that need to be on the BBC offices exactly?

It's often the same with other types of non-visual art too, moids somehow popularized so many musical styles that are basically a navel gazing exercise in ugliness and creepiness and people (especially women) are laughed at and considered deeply uncool and uncultured if we don't prefer noise music or math rock or whatever to nice, melodic music like indie pop or jazz. So much theater written by moids is also deliberately creepy and boundary-breaking (not in a good or original way, just a making-the-audience-uncomfortable way). I actually think this has to be a deliberate psyop because a lot of the art that gets pushed as 'good' isn't actually reflective of what the population tends to like, and since art is funded largely by grants and private investors it's really easy to just starve normal artists creating beautiful things out of their careers while the other kind of art has money thrown at it and is actively promoted. As someone who has gone through the process of applying for and receiving public art grants myself, and who's acquainted with other people who have or are on the granting committees themselves, they absolutely prioritize degenerate and weird shit as a matter of policy, will give money preferentially to troons or people creating explicitly 'political' art that undermines norms of beauty and social cohesion, etc. You'll have grant committees send you back feedback on your work where they're basically like 'it's technically excellent, pleasant and beautiful but you can't explain why this is groundbreaking or politically relevant.' Yeah no shit it's not meant to be, it's an instrumental music piece or a love poem or whatever. And then you'll see the thing that actually got funded and it's some poetry collection with low quality writing about a moid masturbating into his sister's panties, or some guy in his basement who can't sing making noise music wailing about baphomet. My friend who worked on a federally funded music grant committee (that's supposed to be promoting art from our country) for a half decade told me that they were supposed to tell people externally the grants are 'meritocratic' but internally they were told to deprioritize music made by women, and prioritize music made by troons or in foreign languages/attacking and criticizing our own culture. Apparently they talked about how it's hard to give grants to female-led projects because they tend to be too focused on making 'pretty' and technically skilled music, which isn't considered 'diverse' enough.

No. 2491549

>>2491486
I dont have anything to contribute but I agree with a lot of this and it is weird as fuck

No. 2491566

>>2491486
The disturbing amount of moids that straight up produced CP and got away with it legally cause it's "art". And ofc pulled the "akshully youreee the pedophile now move the babies dick around so the sun shines on it" cough cough nirvana baby picture

No. 2491578

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>>2491486
i’ve noticed that in general, art has gotten so much uglier and has genuinely regressed. the west (and the rest of the world) used to have beautiful art movements. the harlem renaissance, art noveau etc. even mainstream media was much more palatable in a lot of ways. some of the statues i’ve seen in my city and others all across the world online have been vile to say the least. picrel is a statue commemorating mlk in boston. like what the fuck?

No. 2491599

>>2491578
A lot of modern art is about novelty. That statue is certainly more memorable than the copious realistic statues of dudes on horseback. And part of the reason modern art became so gimmicky in the first place was that photography and media obsoleted visual artists when it came to portraying reality (even in idealized form) that academy art had to find some other way to justify it's existence.

No. 2491607

>>2491486
I agree with you but I won’t take that math rock slander… math rock is deeply melodic and beautiful, it’s very similar to jazz actually.

No. 2491612

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>>2491578
Actually, I think modern art is going to have a comeback due to AI. Skill and technique mean nothing when an AI can reproduce it, and when it comes to modern art it is the intention, the physical presentation, and the unorthodox way of producing it that takes center stage.
That being said I'm no art student, but taking your pic as an example, it's meant to be a reference to a photo where MLK hugged his wife. It's both their arms together. It was not well thought out, obviously, but it does show that the intention is kind of necessary, and that's something AI cannot reproduce.

No. 2491669

>>2491612
We all know what it's meant to reference anon, the problem is that it is horrific and creepy. For example, they could have tried to reference that photo by… including their faces, just an idea.

No. 2491680

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>>2491486
>The ones who get famous in the last century or so are almost always these 'political' or 'thought provoking' artists where by political or thought provoking they mean openly displaying fetishes
This is not new, unfortunately. Robert Crumb created an 'autobiographical' comic in the 80s where he got a woman drunk enough to rape her. Crumb is hailed as this subversive artist, and he's openly degenerate even by today's standards

No. 2491727

>>2491680
Yeah that's why I said the last century or so… it was already in full swing by the 1980s but especially with some of the visual arts and writing I think it happened much earlier than that, like in the early-mid 1900s. The comic in your picrel is a particularly horrifying and egregious example but in some ways is a little less insidious I think because no one would really call that high art, but I'm even more concerned by some of the things that are considered high art and 'superior' to lowbrow art styles.

>>2491599
This is what people always say whenever you question why art has gone in this direction but it doesn't really explain the phenomenon. Modern art may be about novelty but there's no real reason that modern art should be pushed over and above other art styles - in fact, having far less mass appeal it should theoretically be pushed and funded less as a cultural product, but it's not. It's not like classical styles of representative art only existed to show people things or immortalize specific people's visages like photography mainly does, and it's not like the only sculptures you can make in classical styles are random moids on horseback. The academy justified its existence just fine for hundreds or thousands of years without being viewed as unpalatable, subversive, or alienating to the masses - in fact some of the best funded art pieces in history were funded essentially to be enjoyed by the public and weren't just private collector commissions. People used to cheer and riot at Liszt concerts and many classical music concerts before that. The Granada cathedral was there for people to go meet and pray in. Frescoes and murals going back to Ancient Greece weren't just private art pieces meant to alienate the public either, even if there were also private collector pieces too. I especially brought up music because it was always a medium for mass enjoyment and participation, meant to bring people together and have them socialize, and it's a pretty new ideal to have music be considered 'good' and 'artistic' only if very few people genuinely enjoy or even understand it. It feels like an infiltration of moid degeneracy and an assault on social cohesion which is in fact probably the most concerning thing about it - the values you described of things having to be boundary-pushing and inaccessible to the public IS the problem. If you really wanted art to be inaccessible to produce you would go back to classical painting and sculpture since they are harder to learn, so that can't be the main reason.

No. 2491735

>>2491680
God I hate men so much its unreal

No. 2492215

>>2478464
If it is an individual that wrote most of the good songs in the early 90s that person stopped or died earlier, around 1996. That's when 'alternative' become terrible with boring music and strangely ugly fat faced front men.
If that's the case the only true talented writer was Billy Corgan from Smashing Pumpkins.
There are a few other genuine talented writers/musicians like Stone Gossard and Jeff Ament that got pushed out of writing most of the music for Pearl Jam maybe deliberately so the quality of rock music could go down.

No. 2493807

Trans ideology infection has already become terminal. There is no going back. Men are completely sold and will defend men on dresses to the death.
Mark my words: soon the definition of woman will change. Soon biological women will start losing rights. Soon we will stop being hired (men hate hiring and working with women. Being able to hire a man and call him a woman will be a godsend to them in the workplace). soon we will stop winning awards. female Nobel prize winners, best actresses, any kind of recognition, will go to men. Within a generation biological women will go back to being relegated to sex work and domestic work. The only job available to real women will be prostitute or wife.

No. 2493847

Expanding on an "inflammation and autism" comment from an other thread

I tried writing something out but it started to feel long-winded and chaotic. And I'm not sure if you wanted sources for everything or not, but no sources.
Anyway I think "inflammation-caused ASD" (environmentally-caused -or-exacerbated ASD (and schizophrenia/other mental illnesses)) could be mitigated by

N-acetyl-cysteine (NAC)

N-acetylglucosamine (GlcNAc)

Low Dose Naltrexone (5-10mg of Naltrexone)

perhaps allowing someone with a genetic predisposition to have very mild, subclinical symptoms or symptoms that aren't so burdensom.

I'm not fully convinced LDN is worth taking. I know of a few women with repeat pregnancy loss due to autoimmune diseases that have taken it through pregnancy to keep the pregnancy, because their immune systems were causing systemic inflammation or attacking the fetus or placenta and causing the losses and LDN suppressed it, but I've seen a researcher mention that it could hinder immune system development in the fetus. He implied that it could lead to that child being at higher risk of cancer later in life. There's no research on it to be sure either way.

In addition to inflammation I suspect anticholinergics like SSRIs, zofran, and unisom taken during pregnancy could also be exacerbating or "causing*" ASD. Choline is critical for brain myelination, studies show its importance for brain development and offseting developmental deficits caused by drinking and gestational diabetes. Anticholinergics compete antagonisticly with choline in both the maternal brain cells and the fetal brain cells. I have asked multiple OBs and my psychiatrist (obviously i am mentally ill) and no one gave me a great answer because there isn't evidence to support it. Long term anticholinergic use is associated with dementia in adults so it is clearly impacting brain homeostatis or how brain cells repair or replenish themselves over time in adults.

The inflammation and anticholinergics links are just environmental causes* that I suspect. I think expanding the definition and also social security/disability fraud play a role in the increased rates of diagnosis.

*i want to reiterate that by "causes" i mean genetic-based disorder symptom exacerbation or making symptoms more severe. people foam at the mouth over any hint or idea that their/their kid's autism is not 100% genetic

No. 2494137

Brian Laundrie isn’t actually dead

No. 2494148

>>2494137
Yes he is schizo

No. 2494379

>>2493847
Very interesting, thanks very much. I’m one of the nonnies who asked you to post. I’m personally very suspicious of taking things like SSRIs, zofran, unisom, etc during pregnancy. I was lucky enough to never have morning sickness so it was never a problem, but my OB prescribed it for me without me even asking, and I found that very weird. I never took it. I also had randos in my bumper group push unisom heavily, which made me suspicious of it. Lots of the women— assuming they’re not bots— in my bumper group are on SSRIs or something similar. Many of them claim to have autism and adhd.

Frankly I don’t think HFA and LFA have anything in common and HFA is just oversocialization, but people don’t like that because it hecking invalidates their identity as sped.

No. 2494401

>>2494379
I never took unsiom (?) but I took zofran for like a day before I realized it did nothing for me. My second pregnancy was hell, hyperemesis, severe depression, tachycardia, migraines. I was in the ER at least once a week getting fluids or migraine meds or something also had Chlamydia from SA

That being said I was blown off by my obgyn left and right and just thrown SSRIs and zofran. I had to beg for extra ultrasounds because I knew something was wrong and nothing happened. Turns out the baby had growth problems and a hole in their heart which could've easily been treated better if they would've paid half a mind to me for five minutes. I damn near died multiple times throughout this whole thing including birth. Obgyn care has truly regressed in the worst ways possible in America

No. 2494686

Literally starting to think I’m being gangstalked online cause what the fuck is with the glowie brigade mobilizing to try to silence me even here?

No. 2494742

>>2494379
I did get off my antidepressant because of my beliefs and white-knuckled my morning sickness as best I could (I took it 4 times when the every day nausea vomiting combo had me sobbing). It is really demoralizing to be ill every day for weeks on end so I am sympathetic to women who do take the meds. I wish there was research on anticholinergic use during pregnancy and neurodevelopment to begin with. I haven't found anything on it beyond studies on checking for physical defects present at birth.

No. 2495108

jd vance/paddington bear just killed the pope

No. 2495138

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Does anybody know information about the background of Nancy Brown?

If she is american or not, if she was involved with Big Pharma or Big food, if she was involved in lobbying, or why was the AHS opposed to the bill that wanted to ban people from spending their food stamps on products high in carbohidrates and sugar.

(I'm not american I'm just interested to find out more on this subject), I didn't have any luck searching on google or youtube, any links would be appreciated

No. 2495236

>>2491486
This is literally just because males get off to violating people lmfao nothing conspiracy about it

No. 2495675

>>2432980
Sage for necro but they are very much real, nonny. Since last year, the police of my country had been dismantling groups on Discord ran by incels who did air lives torturing animals and killing. homeless people and you had to pay to watch those. Discord is very mainstream and easy to access. If anything, I would guess that those were much more abundant in past, when victim identification was harder and DNA tests didn't exist. Same with the recording of other horrifying crimes

No. 2496356

>>2493807
I actually don't really believe this will happen because it seems like there has finally been an inflection point and there is some mainstream pushback to trans rights activism but to some degree what you're describing is already true, and I think it will take a long time to fully walk it back even if it does get walked back (which I think it probably will). It might be like 10-15 more years before we get back to what we had in the 90s-2000s in terms of women's rights.

>>2493847
Not one of the anons who asked you about this in the other thread but I'm intrigued by this as well as hypotheses that ASD could be caused by fetal/early life brain stem injury. Some of the symptoms (especially the gastric and other physiological symptoms) seem in line with something like brain injury or post-encephalitis symptoms so I definitely think it's plausible that increased medication of pregnant women could be leading to brain defects in the form of ASD especially, it's such a big basket of symptoms too. PPIs and SSRIs are given unnecessarily to so many people and wrongly considered harmless by the medical community so that wouldn't surprise me at all, and yes people do start foaming at the mouth if autism is ever suggested to be epigenetic even but I don't think that's a good reason not to look into the huge increase.

No. 2499335

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6140832/

So let me get this straight
>Raw milk has had way less illnesses and deaths than normal milk, even when including how many people drink what
>It helps prevent asthma
>Contains more nutrition
>Raw milk farmers are typically much cleaner, and go through much stricter tests especially since now they cut the FDA milk testing
… And Americans are still at each other's throats about raw milk?

No. 2499340

>>2499335
The problem with raw milk is distribution. Without pasteurization, it essentially has to be consumed almost immediately.

No. 2499346

>>2499335
I'd rather drink the normal 2% myself. Not fucking with any thick nasty shit, no thank you.

No. 2499348

>>2499340
True, but buying smaller quantities and consuming it quickly would be the answer. I doubt most people are driving out to the country and spending 12-20 bucks a gallon to not touch it for weeks

No. 2499349

>>2499346
Enjoy your vitamin free milk flavored water

No. 2499350

>>2499348
Agreed but you'll get retards trying to buy it over the internet and greedy fucks willing to sell it to them.

No. 2499352

>>2499350
It's not hard to find a raw milk farmer, even in major cities like Seattle or LA there's farmers that sell within a reasonable distance. Very very light pasturization is also an option available

No. 2499360

>>2499335
The part of my family that are still farmers primarily sell raw milk and were aggressively hounded for this once our country joined the EU. As other anons said the issue with raw milk is usually distribution and ironically prior to the EU regulations they had very consistently profitable same-day distribution channels in their local area, while after EU regulations they were pretty much pressured/forced to sell to international buyers and thus pasteurize if they wanted to sell in conventional stores. I agree that people should be careful with raw milk but a lot of what happened to the milk industry was essentially deliberate, imo - plenty of people were able to get fresh milk easily before and are now no longer able to because of government regs. Anyway I could sperg about this for a long time but at the end of the day I don't see the big deal, people who want raw milk are taking that risk upon themselves and have the right to do so. No one's being forced to drink raw milk.

>>2499346
Why not just drink whole milk? 2% Is literally a waste product that big dairy scammed their way into selling by pushing for regulatory agencies to recognize food waste as food.

>>2499352
In some countries/areas outside of the US it is basically impossible now actually. I know some Canadians who cross the border into the US to get milk specifically because it's so hard to procure in Canada. I think that's kind of crazy of them but what do I know, I'm lactose intolerant.

No. 2499411

>>2499360
Ik this is only anecdotal but the raw milk farm I get it from religiously double tests and showed me their whole set up,all super clean btw. But it definitely did help me with my fatigue which I struggle with a lot

No. 2499434

>>2499411
AYRT and my farming side of the family ran a small family dairy farm for decades with no safety incidents ever, they tested for safety, etc. You can also home pasteurize raw milk if you're not immediately going to use it anyway. I get why some people don't want to deal with unpasteurized milk but I don't get why they feel the need to force pasteurization on absolutely everybody else. Interesting that it helped you with fatigue, any theories on why?

No. 2499928

>>2499434
My theory is either increase or vitamins that are cooked out with pasturizing, or the enzymes that get cooked out during pasturizing

No. 2499962

>>2499335
Holy shit yes we are and we should be due to the fact you can catch bird flu from contaminated unpasteurized dairy products. And cows don’t show symptoms of bird flu until a couple days after their milk becomes infectious.

My fellow schizo nonnas in the U.S. please do not consume raw dairy products right now. I’m not even saying never consume them, I’ve drank raw milk before. My dad grew up drinking it. I’m not against it. But I am against it at the current moment in time because the risk is too great and we can’t let bird flu keep spreading. Thankfully most people aren’t at risk but you put yourself at so much risk that’s so unnecessary by consuming raw dairy rn. Just wait a year or two for the bird flu shit to stop fucking up dairy farms. Literally just wild birds can spread it to even very well kept small herds and you won’t know until it’s too late. Pleeeeeease.

No. 2499993

>>2499962
They have bird flu test kits anon. No one's saying just drink it carelessly, but if we know there's extremely safe ways to drink raw milk, so much that it's now become safer than pasturized milk, and we know there's benefits of it, why not? I feel like ignoring the fact there's testing available does more harm than good

No. 2500209

As fun as it would be to believe the COVID vaccine was a mass conspiracy for depopulation or to keep records or whatever, in reality I think to was simply just a poorly made vaccine that was rushed. I'm not anti vax, I don't think vaccine are the devil, I happily get all other needed vaccines. COVID vaccine was just ineffective and instead of holding companies accountable to make an effective and safe vaccine, people were too scared to be seen as an "anti vax conspiracy theorist". We could've easily had a safe and effective vaccine if people held the companies accountable

No. 2500289

>>2500209
Schizo dogpile in 3, 2, 1…

No. 2500460

>>2500209
>We could've easily had a safe and effective vaccine if people held the companies accountable
Scientifically, this is not true. There had been decades of attempts made to make coronavirus vaccines with absolutely no success. I don't believe most other vaccines are effective either but even if you want to argue they were, by the standards of those other vaccines every single coronavirus vaccine after decades of research had always been an abject failure so it's magical thinking that more money could have suddenly created a COVID vaccine in a year or two (when the past fastest vax development of all time was like a decade). This is like saying we can all live on Mars tomorrow if we just hold SpaceX accountable or something, you can't wish impossible or futuristic technologies into being with 'accountability.'

As to the rest of your post I don't think it was a depopulation conspiracy either but that doesn't make it any less sinister that they forced 6 billion people to take a vaccine they knew to be both ineffective and dangerous beforehand. There's not any "good" reason to do that where it comes out not looking sinister.

>>2500289
It's the conspiracy theory thread so yes, that is what you expect when you post on the thread.

No. 2500463

>>2500209
Most likely you're right, it was just a piece of shit that they pushed way too fast and it has unintended consequences. There's no way TPTB want to reduce their number of wage slaves.

No. 2500470

>>2500209
I think you and a lot of people don't understand how vaccines are made in the first place. In the lab in China, they were purposely creating as many variations of covid as possible in hopes of having a cure on hand in the case that covid mutated naturally in the human population, so then there would be a vaccine ready to go with as minimal chaos as possible. Covid only became an issue because proper protocols were not followed and it ran rampant on people who didn't have the immune system to fight covid-19. That explains why they got the vaccines out so fast when really they had been working on them for years, granted yes, they don't work that well since there still isn't a reliable vaccine for the flu. The real conspiracy is that proper protocols weren't followed in the lab and that's why it spread outside the lab. It's in the best interests of the lab and it's investors to keep quiet about it to prevent harm to their business. I am surprised by how many people ignore this fact.

No. 2500493

>>2500470
In that case why did COVID just seem like a cold to most people? It definitely was terrible for a lot and killed some, but most commonly people just recovered just fine and never got it again even if they weren't vaccinated?

No. 2500663

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Virginia Giuffre, Epstein's main accuser, has been found dead at age 41. Allegedly a suicide after recently getting hit head on by a speeding school bus. Wtf?

No. 2500668

>>2500663
Two things might be true at once: 1. trafficking victim commits suicide. 2. full Epstein files are never getting released and loose ends will be eliminated.

No. 2500673

>>2500663
She was in a bus accident. The doctors told her she only has 4 days to live. The bus sustained A$2000 worth of damage but the police said no one was injured in the crash. Less than a month later, they claim she committed suicide. How can one believe this?

No. 2500689

>>2500663
I remember when she did interviews and such on YouTube the comments were immediately spammed with people accusing her of lying or "actually selling herself and wanting to play victim at last minute"

That being said - why was she never offered any witness protection program?

No. 2500714

>>2500673
>>2500663
Nothing makes sense.
First she was in a school bus accident, but apparently she wasn't driving and the bus driver said that it was a minor accident:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14563827/Bus-driver-crash-Virginia-Giuffre-four-days-live-story.html
Here they detail something about her social media and they mention that Prince Andrew's ex-girlfriend, Lady Victoria Hervey, was even making fun of hers:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14649693/Virginia-Giuffres-cryptic-social-media-posts-days-tragic-death-suicide.html
I'm not saying it's a conspiracy but looks like it.

No. 2500973

>>2500663
I feel so sorry for her. Years of sexual abuse and now she passed without seeing proper justice for it. I don't buy that it was suicide. There's far too much money and corruption involved. I hope she's at peace, now.

No. 2501102

Is it true adoption agencies are pushing extreme levels of parent shaming to make parents more likely to surrender their children? I know some people are busy bodies for sure but some people just let parental decisions just live forever rent-free in their head. Like I've seen 200+ hate comments towards people that give their toddler a single piece of fruit in their water

No. 2501127

>>2500714
she definitely didn't kill herself. this is so fucked up and people will just ignore this or forget about it

No. 2501181

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Who the fuck was this

No. 2501191

>>2500470
>China's labs and government, who purposely hid the covid accident for half a year before the official first patients in Europe and America, absolutely helped make the vaccine by sharing their research on coronaviruses, even if even today they won't admit that the lab was at fault and won't allow proper investigation.
Now that's an interesting claim.

No. 2501237

>>2500663
After that weird ass automobile incident where the police downplayed her injuries, I knew her days were numbered. That poor woman went through so much.

Various British royals and socialites were viciously bullying and slandering her in the last few weeks. She absolutely was murdered, same as Isaac Kappy was murdered after speaking out about hollywood pedophilia. Any woman who speaks out against sex trafficking/porn industry/pedophilia cults ends up being killed or stalked for the rest of their lives. There's a war on against women, they want our bodies and our minds, and its only going to get worse before it gets better.

No. 2501238

>>2501102
I doubt it. There's already a massive surplus of unwanted children and care homes and orphanages are already stretched to maximum capacity. That being said, a lot of parents in the US don't even realize that the state legally owns their children. But also, a shit ton of parents are just extremely abusive towards their kids, and it's only in recent years it's become acceptable to openly discuss the topic child abuse.

No. 2501243

>>2501238
True, but at the same time you'll see people justifying doing drugs around their kids, a mom could give her toddler strawberries and steak and receive 500+ neglect accusations and a CPS case

No. 2501245

Anyone else noticed a massive uptick in news stories being shoved forward about women fucking dogs and underage students? Men seem to be pushing the 'women are perverted pedophiles' to take the heat of themselves. I don't think it's organic either as these articles get shilled very hard on women hate spaces online and I remember the 'white women fuck dogs' copypasta being circulated super hard on 4chan since at least 2020.

No. 2501248

>>2501243
I really feel like you're exaggerating a bit here sorry, can you give an example of a case where something like that actually happened and a parent was heavily investigated or lost custody because of an innocent meal being posted online?

False CPS accusations are nothing new, it's a method busybody Karen's used to use against women they disliked, now because of social media it's easier to dogpile on people. I knew women who it happened to even back in the early 2000s. Sometimes racists used to gang up and file false reports abour WOC moms too.

No. 2501252

>>2501248
>>2501248
I can't find it now unfortunately but I remember a tiktoker talked about how her neighbor called CPS because her toddler cried when she wouldn't let her have a sip of her coffee. On top of the the comment section was filled with moms reporting that they had CPS called over all kinds of bizarre shit, scraped knees at the playground, eating leaves, returning shopping carts, etc

As for meals - it seems like every single healthy meal posted on tiktok for children is met with people having meltdowns about how your gonna destroy your childrens teeth, insulin resistance, gonna give them high blood pressure and all kinds of terrifying stuff and it was a completely normal and healthy meal. A few moms have talked about this in the mom thread in /g/ too

No. 2501255

>>2501245
White women have become scapegoats for everyone. White men hate them because they blame white women for liberalism, feminism and multiculturalism. Men of color hate them because they were told all white women are easy whores yet white women won't give up their vaginas to these men. Women of color hate white women because they have internalized self hate, see WW as sexual competition and think WW live on easy mode. Everyone has been given a free pass to express extreme unchecked misogyny towards white women and it's seen as ok 'because they're white privileged bitches anyway'.

No. 2501434

>>2501191
NTA but I don't understand what's interesting about it? The labs weren't really 'Chinese' labs anyway, they were in China but funded by the US government. They weren't 'helping make the vaccine by sharing their research,' their research was already owned by people like Daszak of EcoHealth Alliance and funded by the NIH/NIAID in the first place. None of that explains the vaccine being made 'faster' though since they never had an effective vaccine, it was just a chunk of reconstituted genome they already had at the ready but had never successfully animal or human tested.

>>2501245
I always remember those news stories being shilled, I think you just see more of them now because 4chan moids compile them all and share them amongst themselves. But female pedophile teachers was a huge topic on daytime TV back when I was in elementary/middle school in the 90s/2000s I remember. Moids always love to pretend women are just as bad as them so they jump on these stories, and the dogfucking thing is just a male fetish.

>>2501252
What about steak/strawberries would destroy a child's teeth or give them insulin resistance/high bp? I don't get it. Anyway toddlers have baby teeth, they're gonna fall out anyway.

No. 2501438

>>2501434
Tiktoker seem to think toddlers are made of paper and think anything besides milk and water will kill your baby it's ridiculous. On the other hand you have donut moms who's get praised for "trying their best"

No. 2501444

>>2501438
As I am not American, this confuses me because it was normal in my culture for toddlers to be fed solid food. I obviously don't remember what I was eating as a 2yo but there are tons of photos around and my mom always talked about how weird North Americans are for feeding toddlers mostly liquid foods and applesauce. The people next to me have an 18 month old and they've been deliberately feeding her stuff like home-rendered lard with veggies and meat for the last 6 months or so because of doctors' recommendations to introduce more adult foods and animal fats (she is small). I always thought the meme of Americans giving toddlers a bunch of pseudoliquids was because they were poor or didn't have time to cook and cut up foods for their toddlers, I didn't think they thought it was healthy.

No. 2501459

>>2501444
I honestly don't believe Americans who comment that bullshit actually believe what they're saying. A lot of it seems like either miserable people using some of the most vulnerable population to bring down, especially since new parents often doubt themselves and are more likely to listen to criticism so the abusive crowd takes full advantage of people who simply just want to be good parents. And then you have people who are straight up walking CPS calls that are literal child molesters and beaters who spend their emotional energy demanding everyone asspat them for potty training early, not feeding solids, rear face until 12, etc and hope everyone else ignores their 5 DV charges. Mormon parents on tiktok are notorious of this

No. 2502247

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Pope paid off a mortgage to buy a macaroni factory where delinquent teenage boys work. Am I crazy or is this likely to be more sinister than it's presented as?

No. 2502249

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I was thinking about what this anon >>2246398 said about how men dressing up as women during war is a "blood/genetic memory" thing. This isn't intended to be racebait, but within less politically correct times and contexts, (white) Americans often like(d) to dress up as Native Americans for fun, and to signify a "wild/powerful/free spirit". Conquered people skinwalked by the conquerors. Women are, by and large, the first "conquered" people, and this is a common historical event to all regions, and probably all races. From that line of logic, it's easy to see what's going on there.
What's more interesting is why, even after conquering an "outsider" group, so many men want to embody them. I feel like that might tie into the cannibalistic practices engaged in by some groups of people during wartime, in which they believed that by eating their enemies, they'd attain their strength. It's almost both an insult and a compliment. They consume the Other to get their powers (inherent recognition of their power and the formidable fight they put up), trigger their own inbuilt fight/flight reaction to the enemy's visual markers to maximize their performance in battle with a new enemy (in the case of Native Americans, it's typically the chieftain headdresses and face paint, for women, it's the same clothing that was literally made by men to mark us as "Other" from them and highlight our bodily differences), and remind themselves of their own victory (which is why they dress up as women or other "conquered people" during parties, not just war, and part of why male serial killers, even in solitude, often dress up in their female victim's clothing and take photos of themselves: celebration). There's something else going on, too.
I don't know how the sexual aspect of AGP fits into all this, but I see a connection, and I don't think it's a mistake or a coincidence that men who have AGP are also often very racist, hierarchy-minded and deeply interested in raceplay/things like "BNWO" (picrel). I know it's ultimately about power and submission in a general sense, but there's a messier, more visceral aspect to all of this I feel like we've been primed to look away from, probably because it's embarrassing and gets in the way of certain social tenets. I'm also starting to suspect that male bisexuality becomes more common when a population is under certain stressors (whether that's war or scarcity of access to females via more powerful males hoarding wives/concubines/enforcing higher degrees of gender segregation, ie "prison gay"). Almost none of the weird and fucked up shit we see today is new, it's all just variations of how humans have been acting for a long, long time. Even beyond a human level, the same logic applies to why so many humans love to randomly kill animals (especially stereotypically "powerful" ones like lions and bears) and try to skinwalk/embody them. I'm not talking about people who specifically hunt to survive, eat or maintain certain environmental factors. Traditional culture and religion had a lot of mythology around this, modern/atheistic society has vestiges of it in both sports teams and furry culture or "petplay", and bestiality/zoophiliac behaviors have been rampant from then to now. I don't understand what drives so many humans to want to kill/conquer whatever and whoever is living, just to venerate and somewhat worship (or sexualize) them after the fact. It may actually be even more perverse when they do this with relatively benign, stereotypically "weaker" animals like deer, but I digress.

No. 2502276

>>2502247
That's 100% a rape dungeon in the making, hopefully the police question things and inspect the place every once in a while.

No. 2502347

>>2502249
Lol that kinda looks like my neighbour

No. 2502403

>>2502249
I'm so tempted to post this picture on Black spaces Lipstick Alley or The Coli for keks.

No. 2502965

What do you think about the anon in the baby thread insisting babies can't be lactose intolerant and if a baby is on goat, soy, etc it's the mom coping and being psyoped by the formula industry?

No. 2502968

>>2502965
Crunchy mom… if her kid was lactose intolerant and couldn’t digest dairy properly with a hidden autoimmune disease and she kept feeding it breast milk and dairy in the hopes that it would reverse / build a tolerance for dairy, that kid is fucked for life. Crohn’s disease, celiacs disease… feed your kid the things it can’t digest, it will develop lifelong complications and potentially colon cancer.

No. 2502979

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>>2502249
I wonder if it's a fucked up expression of the "resource hoarding" instinct.
>Male bisexuality increases if a population is under certain stressors
Spoilered pic because it describes animal cruelty, but during that one rat utopia experiment, homosexual and "pansexual" behaviours did increase among the social reject males who constantly lost fights against the "alphas." People like to say that similar effects haven't been studied in humans, but literally anyone who knows anything about men knows that isn't true.

No. 2502983

>>2502968
True but even crunchy moms are perfectly capable of admitting formula is necessary for babies that can't digest breast milk. It's such a weird thing to be stuck on

No. 2503288

>>2502979
This is very interesting, thanks for posting this nonna. I did not know about that aspect of the rat utopia experiments, but, of course, it makes sense. We can observe this in human males quite easily. A lot of conservative types describe increased male homosexuality/bisexuality/degeneracy as a precursor to societal collapse but taken together with this info from the rat experiment I wonder if it's the other way around causally - males in collapsing social groups become sexually degenerate as a response to changing social dynamics which is incidentally a precursor to social shifts or collapses.

No. 2503300

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They stopped updating death by vaccination status because vaccinated people were dying at rapid rates
-incoming drop-

No. 2503305

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No. 2503310

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No. 2503314

>>2503300
>>2503305
>>2503310
I'm not trying to be rude, but like… do you understand how statistics work? Specifically sample size and populations? Kek

No. 2503324

>>2503314
The point was that the vaccine did fuck-all for COVID and preventing deaths. Where are all the unvaccinated dying en masse ?

No. 2503351

>>2503300
This is old news anon but this was happening even before 2023 in some jurisdictions.

>>2503314
The ONS data was controlled for population size and age. Not sure what point you're trying to make here, if anything you're suggesting the UK's main statistics-collecting agency doesn't understand sample and population sizes.

No. 2503410

>>2503324
>>2503351
Obviously the figures relating to the deaths of vaccinated people are higher than the figures relating to the deaths of unvaccinated people, because there are a lot more vaccinated people than there are unvaccinated people.

Like in this graph, >>2503305 of course more vaccinated children die compared to unvaccinated children, because the vast majority of children have two doses of the COVID vaccine. If 10% of apples rot, and I have a bin of 100 apples and a bin of 10000 apples, then the first bin will have 10 rotten apples and the second bin would have 1000 rotten apples. Same percent, but different amounts.

No. 2503424

>>2503410
Do you understand what 'standardized' and 'per 100,000 person-years' mean? I think you are the one not understanding statistics. You pointed to this post >>2503305 but were too lazy to read the title of the graph, "Age-standardised mortality rates by Vaccination Status, per 100,000 person-years, England, Age 10-14…'? NTA who posted that but you either didn't look at the chart's title or are statistically illiterate.

No. 2503425

>>2503424
Read it one more time, then think about it for more than a minute and you will quickly realize why you are wrong

No. 2503435

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>>2503410
less than 50% of kids at that age are vaccinated in the UK, so nona's graph is alarming.

No. 2503444

>>2503425
I'm not wrong, you are. Open up the link she provided with the image and you can see the tables where the rates were calculated. The denominator isn't 'total population' it's a per-group calculation in person-years. You can see in the charts that the number of person-years in, say, Table 2 for 'ever-vaccinated' increases to 2.7mil by October from 284k in January, while the number of person-years for 'unvaccinated' decreases from 3mil* in January to 600k in October. I don't know what's hard for you to understand but when a graph or statistical dataset uses the word "rate by X status" they are, in fact, referring to rate, meaning numerator (events) over denominator (population) for each status. Sorry, deleted because I typoed 300million instead of 3 million in my original post.

No. 2503454

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>>2503435
That's also a good point anon but thankfully it was standardized by group anyway so it doesn't really matter how many total kids got vaccinated.

Relatedly, I just found out about this legal notice some researchers served to the Aus government because they're destroying all the DNA/vaccine samples in the largest/most comprehensive covid vax sample database ever created. Sadly I can't find any mainstream articles about this so this weird conspiratard blog will have to do as it has the best rundown of the situation I could find on a quick search: https://www.sott.net/article/499064-Nothing-says-Safe-and-Effective-like-destroying-all-the-data-from-Australias-giant-abandoned-vaccine-study

The legal letter is from the author's blog: https://julesonthebeach.substack.com/p/legal-notice-served-on-those-who?publication_id=1956910&post_id=161773787&isFreemail=true&r=nh7hc&triedRedirect=true
Picrel is (1/2)

No. 2503457

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(2/2)
Really disturbing because as an ex-lab-scientist we had a mandatory 7-year retention rate for ALL lab data even the simplest things like consent forms, we had to make paper copies of everything and retain it for future use and back it up on hard drives but they're just acting like this sample destruction is nbd after less than 5 years. Absolutely nuts. This comes after numerous studies including peer-reviewed studies from ivy league scientists keep finding DNA contamination in vaccine samples. Sick of the hamhanded coverup atp honestly, it's so anti-science to sabotage efforts to research anything long past the 'we need to increase people's trust in science!' excuses have worn thin and become defunct. No one is even getting vaccinated for COVID anymore one way or the other, they may as well stop aggressively hiding everything and just let scientists access research materials.

No. 2503559

>>2503424
Sorry for samefagging but after posting this and working for a bit I realized there's probably a clearer way to explain this to any nonnas who forgot their high school stats. In order to grasp what this means I'll give a couple examples:

Let's say they're doing an observational study of cancer treatments with 1000 patients, where 25% of patients opt not to get chemo or any other treatment and 75% of patients opt for chemo. The study outcomes would then report 'mortality rate per treatment group' as (unrealistic numbers but to make it simple) "80% mortality rate" for non-chemo patients if 200/250 died, and "20% mortality rate" for chemo patients if 150/750 died. The per-group mortality rate is calculated as (deaths in X group/# of patients in X group). They do not calculate the mortality rate as (deaths in x group/@ of patients in both groups) because that would not account for the differential in group sizes. This is normal in all observational statistics since treatment group sizes can't be externally controlled, and even in randomized controlled trials it is calculated this way as there will often be slight discrepancies in treatment group sizes, especially due to dropout.

Another example that seems appropriate for lolcow is the following: Let's say we're calculating "sexual offending rates per sex in the prison population." Let's say there are 1,000 total women incarcerated in prisons and 100,000 men incarcerated. When you hear "male sexual offending rates relative to prison population are 10x higher than female sexual offending rates" it doesn't mean that they're calculating however many female sexual offenders over 101,000 total inmates and however many males over 101,000 sexual offenders, that would be functionally meaningless. They calculate the number of female sexual offenders over the total number of female prisoners, and they calculate the number of male sexual offenders over the total number of male prisoners, otherwise the 'rate' would be functionally meaningless since there are so many fewer women incarcerated overall.

When they're calculating dynamic groups which can move from one group into another after (event), it's common to calculate in person-years. So for instance, when you have a group like 100 children who may gradually become vaccinated over time, the 'person-years' are calculated as the time spent in that treatment group. If a child spends one tenth of a year during the study period unvaccinated, and then gets vaccinated, then they are calculated as contributing 0.1 person-year to the unvaccinated group in the first tenth of the year, and 0.9 person-years to the vaccinated group by the end of the year. If the child's death occurs, say, at least 2-weeks post-vaccination (this has been the standard for ONS data collection, skewing the data toward a vaccine safety signal), they are logged as a death over (whatever number of aggregate person-years) in the ever-vaccinated group. The person-years helps account for the fact that some groups got vaccinated at different times, so they will shift from the 'unvaccinated' to the 'vaccinated' group dynamically over time, but their time spent unvaccinated will still count proportionally in unvaccinated statistics, and the longer the time elapsed since vaccination without a recorded event like a death, the larger the 'vaccinated' denominator will functionally become.

As an addendum, the confusion may be coming from the fact that Biden's CDC initially reported total deaths in unvaccinated/vaccinated going back to 2020 without any adjustments, reporting unadjusted stats like "95% of COVID deaths were unvaccinated" even though the denominator was "total COVID deaths" and the time period went back to June/July 2020 when a vaccine was not even available. There was some scientific criticism of this as it is obviously an absurd, propagandistic way to calculate stats, but maybe people remember the CDC doing this and therefore assume all government agencies calculate stats in a similarly absurd way. Although there were some absurdities in the ONS stats (lag, and undercounting the total UK population by a few million) the ONS was never actually retarded and dishonest enough to report 'total deaths over total population over total time' stats like the CDC did. What the CDC did was not normal and it's also why they didn't use the word 'rate' because that would have been dishonest. They just kept saying "95% COVID deaths have occurred in X group" because they would have gotten sued to hell and back if they claimed it was a per-pop rate. What they did is not standard practice.

No. 2503686

>>2501255
>>2501255
>Women of color hate white women because they have internalized self hate, see WW as sexual competition and think WW live on easy mode. Everyone has been given a free pass to express extreme unchecked misogyny towards white women and it's seen as ok 'because they're white privileged bitches anyway'.
Jesus, you're so fucking wrong. don't racebait like this, keep women of color out of your nonsense

No. 2503695

>>2503410
So what was the point of forcing everyone to get vaccinated if the vaccine didn't do anything
?

No. 2503715

>>2503695
To test out how well people will comply, test their reception to propaganda, carrot/stick, also to prep them behaviorally for things like the draft or climate change related deprivations (e.g. with debanking and firing for noncompliance), collective punishment, etc. There were some minor players like governments getting kickbacks but the main goal was control/dress rehearsal is my take on it.

No. 2503716

>>2503695
Somethingsomething uhh you'll take up the ICU bed of a geriatric obese 98 year old crack addict moid if you get a cold, somethingsomething For The Common Good, somethingsomething.

No. 2503723

>>2503715
My preferred theory is also dress rehearsal anon. I know a lot of vax skeptics wanted to die on the 'mass depop/eugenics' hill and yes I think the COVID vaccine did kill a large amount of people and probably render many more infertile or may potentially cause health problems in their babies but I think in the grand scheme of things that was relatively minor. Taken together the lockdowns, social distancing measures, masks, curfews, and vaccines (almost all pushed by the exact same people despite the mutual incompatibility of some of the measures, e.g. "vaccines have 97% efficacy but you should still be double masking and social distancing even if you're quadruple vaccinated!") all point to one thing, namely social engineering and testing the waters for the next big crisis. Remember those weird headlines during early lockdown days about how the whales came to Venice and nature was healing? I think they were trying to test out narratives for 'climate lockdowns' or something similar. Now we have a bunch of people trying to dim the sun with aerosols Snowpiercer-style, a lot of geo-engineering, etc. and I think stay at home orders/mass inoculations/etc. would be convenient test runs for other bizarre, inexplicable social control measures in the future.

No. 2503728

>>2503723
It’s absolutely this, what got me was the way every world government did all this in lockstep. Like everyone agreed, when does that ever happen in global politics? It had to have been top down. I do also believe there was an element of memetics, that the virus the physical event and the virus the concept were two different things and they couldn’t scale back this huge mental event that quickly. But ultimately it was putting in place these narratives. Worked amazingly well in Australia specifically where everyone is compeletely lobotomizrd and chides you for being ‘selfish’. Also, it put into practice mass surveillance and tracking. Not through vaccine microchips, ironically, but it set people up to snitch on their neighbors and get reported for it, set up people registering in every store, will probably set up requiring every route to be pre approved if you want to go anywhere etc etc.

No. 2503736

>>2503728
>every world government did all this in lockstep.
Did you read that lockstep document kek
>Like everyone agreed, when does that ever happen in global politics?
It never used to, but now most world governments and major NGOs are captured by the WEF, the WHO and UN are literally owned by the WEF, etc. The time of sovereignty and national governments is essentially over, which I believe is part of the reason a lot of people voted for an isolationist like Trump. I'm not really defending his tariffs as a good idea (I kind of doubt they will lead to anything good economically) and I'm not American so it's not really my place to comment anyway, but I feel like this was a last ditch attempt at nationalism/isolationism by a lot of the American crowd who tend to be anti-globalist. Whether it will work, well, I have my doubts but I think there was an undercurrent of 'fuck the new world order' in Trump's electorate, especially a lot of the ex-leftists who voted for him.
>there was an element of memetics
Absolutely, and I think the social media censorship was also a test run. If you look at some of those disease X tabletop exercises the international community does, they started paying a lot of attention to social media censorship and messaging. They want to be able to capture people's minds and the idea of a deadly disease is one of the best ways to do that. My one hope is that it will be harder to fool people a second time with the 'disease' excuse, but seeing how so many people are still deluded about the entire COVID debacle, think it was a very serious disease, think the vaccines and lockdown measures worked against all evidence, etc. I'm not even sure.

No. 2503742

>>2503686
I called this anon out for being pedantic like a bippie with a chronic victim complex and that hit a nerve, so I'm guessing some parts of that is true. Everytime I see this anon writing their fanfiction about how everybody in the whole wide world hates them and wants to rape them for being a white woman, I'm just like "Oh, it's that bippie with her thinly-veiled rape fantasy again."

No. 2503754

>>2501255
People are mad at you because you mentioned ~poc~ but it’s true. Like that guy who stole a pregnant woman’s e bike and basically ruined her public image claiming she was racist. It’s just a safe way to be misogynistic. Also for everyone who replies to this defending men’s right to call women sexist slurs in the name of anti racism, who’s more important to you, a black man or a white woman?

No. 2503759

>>2503742
I was not involved in this discussion, have no real desire to get into arguments between women of different races because I think we all essentially suffer from the same misogyny which has always been and will always be the biggest social force against women, but I think it is undeniable that 'white women' is a convenient excuse for misogynistic moids to be 'safely' misogynistic these days. They don't just mean white women either, they mean 'women' when they say their misogynistic shit and they just put 'white' in front so they're shielded from criticism for being misogynistic.

>>2503754
I remember that e-bike situation, there was also that Central Park Karen called Amy Cooper or whatever who was absolutely railroaded from being scared of some giant moid who was threatening her in the middle of the forest and trying to lure her dog away, wouldn't back off when she repeatedly asked him to back away, etc. and then got so much flak in the media she was fired for calling the police when the moid wouldn't leave her alone. She seemed kind of crazy but I will side with a crazy anxious woman scared of men in the forest over a moid trying to smear her in the media any day honestly. Even my wokest friends after watching the video were like 'umm in her place I would have been scared out of my mind too.' I just wish women would pick female solidarity over idpol spats in this society where women's rights are constantly being trampled upon, moids (no matter what background) won't band together to protect us, we have to protect each other.

No. 2503762

>>2503759
I'm not denying that misogyny exists against white women. I'm just pointing out the oddity of a certain anon who regularly writes these fantasies of literally every scrote in the world wanting to rape literally every white woman and literally every non-white woman somehow being jealous of it all. Like yeah, being jealous of some random white woman in the UK or something is definitely on the forefront of a fourteen-year-old African girl's mind when she's getting her clit chopped off by her misogynistic father for a fucked up society and culture.

No. 2503767

>>2503762
Oh yeah I'm not defending that anon and I try to stay out of these racebaity arguments, I just agree with the general sentiment that 'white bitches' seems like a catchall term for all women in misogynist moid parlance these days. Personally I don't really witness much competition between women regardless of ethnicity I just witness a lot of moids trying to get away with misogyny.

No. 2503784

>>2503754
>>2501255
The issue with this narrative is that data from 2022 shows that "women of color" still remain the most attacked (with black women in particular facing a disproportionately high scale of social media abuse).
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/press-release/2018/12/crowdsourced-twitter-study-reveals-shocking-scale-of-online-abuse-against-women/
Also, this obviously isn't true for everyone, but the majority of white women aren't going out of their way to defend brown, black or Asian women who get bashed by white and other men, and that's largely because from their POV, it has nothing to do with them. Using "white women" as a way to get away with misogyny only works for the same reasons non-Indian women (for example) have been scrolling past it and not caring for years when a misogynistic post started off with "indian women are all blah blah blah". It's a dirty psychological trick. There isn't anything special about being white in this context, it's that every group of women is left to fend for themselves against misogyny the moment other characteristics like race or religion come into play. People are somehow primed to forget that it's misogyny when you bring in something that a man could also be, even when you're still singling out women.
Sadly, there are also white women (typically tradthot types) who actually pile on to the abuse because they want to go full pickme for white moid crumbs, they think "women of color" live life on easy mode because racism is discussed, and the disgusting pornography made and spread by men has made them view other women as sexual competition.
This is why it's weird to switch up and only notice the problem the moment the online abuse starts to creep on white women as a demographic (which, of course it would - misogyny is misogyny, all these moids want carteblanche to bash us all, idk why there are always women who think they'll be exempt).
IMO, the only possible solutions are either mutual support (ie we all defend eachother against moid shit), or if you see someone attacking white women, instead of pretending that white women alone face abuse, just do what literally all other groups of women have been doing for years and defend yourself without pointlessly dragging "WOC"'s name into things.

No. 2503809

>>2503784
Answer the question

No. 2503811

>>2503809
If reading that didn't answer it for you, I can't help you.

No. 2503882

>>2503784
>It's a dirty psychological trick. There isn't anything special about being white in this context, it's that every group of women is left to fend for themselves against misogyny the moment other characteristics like race or religion come into play. People are somehow primed to forget that it's misogyny when you bring in something that a man could also be, even when you're still singling out women.
I wish women would stop falling for this. We gain nothing from intrasexual competition and jealousy. Personally I have never witnessed shit like this irl, it seems like something I see the most in US media, and is possibly augmented by general racist moid rhetoric and porn. But in general, if a moid is misogynistic and targets women, it is only a matter of time before he targets other women regardless of their intrasexual group affiliation. None of this shit actually matters to misogynistic moids, we are all just porn categories to them whether it's on the basis of age, race, breast size, body type, etc.

No. 2503919

>>2503809
Nta but if you can't be bothered to read a well articulated reply and hyperfixate on "if they didn't answer your retarded question" you're long gone

No. 2503924

>>2503919
How hard is it to answer my retarded question doe

No. 2503942

>>2503924
NTA but I think it was implied in the answer that she supports women over men? Why is this even in the tinfoil thread idgi.

No. 2503975

>>2503924
You asked if a black man or white woman is more important. You didn't ask for key information or anything, that was just blatantly bait, and everytime moids lose arguments their favorite thing is to ask something irrelevant and stupid, and when you reply with an in detail explanation they start hyperfixating on "ANSWER THE QUESTION!!!!". I literally have not seen a single non-retarded moid argument that didn't end up with him sperging about "answer the question!!!! Are you racist or sexist?!?!?"

No. 2503983

>>2503975
No, I asked more important to you, personally. I think it’s a pretty easy way to test where your true priorities lie. That is key to me.

No. 2504099

>>2503983
NTA, it's also pretty easy to read the conversation up to this point and infer what those replying think. It just sounds like you didn't bother, which is retarded.

No. 2504125

>>2503983
That was still a bait-ey, unimportant and blatantly stupid question to ask, nevermind something about how she won't answer it the way you specifically want

No. 2504484

did cc got swarmed with trannies? a few months ago i noticed an uptick of threads and posts with overly cutesy naive typing style and the thumbnails that only depicted anime girls doing cute stuff whereby before there was more variety in the types of thread pics posted

No. 2504487

>>2504484
>did cc got swarmed with trannies?
Yes. I thought it always had a tranny problem.

No. 2504752

>>2504484
The weird boob debates where everyone would claim to be 90 lbs with S cup tits should've been the first clue

No. 2504773

>>2504484
Gotta wonder if they went back to 4chan or stayed around.

No. 2504875

>>2504484
Yes. Men are so retarded they only (thankfully) know about CC.

No. 2504917

Trannyism was pushed so hard and so suddenly because Big Surgery wants to experiment with things like transhumanism, body swaps, and all sorts of DNA fuckery. AGPs and HSTS types have always been around but they only became highlighted in the media this century, and it's snowballed into "you can identify as an animal or divine being if you want to" and the media wants you to think this is great. In fact, they want you to think it's better than normal. I don't think they have the technology for this yet (or it's at least not good enough to be used, or too expensive with current methods) but they want to work towards it. And, as always, they're doing it by experimenting on the mentally ill (not that troons deserve sympathy but still.) In my opinion the space-age cyberpunk communism shit was also inorganically pushed in tranny spaces because it seemed to appear out of nowhere, and it's connected to this long-term goal.

No. 2504921

>>2503762
Hard agree. This place has a problem with delulu white women with racial complexes.

No. 2506962

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Interesting, I think most people would expect this was already happening

No. 2506970

>>2506962
No vaccine other than the COVID vax has ever gone through a placebo-tested RCT, and the COVID vax RCT had a lot of fraud and was ended early so that wasn't done properly either. The reason for this is that 'biologics' don't have the same FDA testing standards as 'drugs'/normal pharmaceuticals. This isn't known by most people because the pharmaceutical industry is insanely shady and they make a lot of implications/lie by omission to make people think safety standards are higher than they actually are.

Another common myth that people believed before COVID was that vaccines were tested for 'sterilizing immunity' (aka the idea that you would not get infected at all if you were successfully vaccinated against a pathogen) but this is also false, they never even tested any vaccines for sterilizing immunity. That's why COVID caused so many people to become (general, non-COVID vax specific) antivaxers - people started looking into the safety and efficacy testing standards for 'normal' non-mRNA vaccines thinking it would be a gotcha against the COVID vaccine and realized that none of the previous vaccines had placebo-blinded controlled trials either.

Anyway, kek at
>alarming health experts
Oh no, how awful! We might have to actually research whether things work before injecting them into people in the future!

No. 2506975

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>>2506962
NTA but adding a screenshot from the article, which explains that part of the reason 'experts' are so alarmed by this is because it will lower trust in science (kek yes, testing things better is what will lower trust, not the fact that you people didn't test any of this shit in the first place) and also because it will force them to do 'unnecessary' studies. Paul Offit, who himself criticized the FDA panel he was on a couple years back for forcing untested boosters that don't work on children, is back to his old tricks whining that this heralds the 'dissolution of the vaccine infrastructure' as if they didn't already spend billions of dollars on health research every year.

Other interesting quotes from the article:
>“Except for the COVID vaccine, none of the vaccines on the CDC’s childhood recommended schedule was tested against an inert placebo, meaning we know very little about the actual risk profiles of these products,” HHS said in its statement. Vaccine and public health experts said the statement from HHS is a combination of misinformation and exaggeration or misrepresentation of scientific studies. “To make a blanket statement like that, I think that would go against the science,” said Sean O’Leary, a pediatric-infectious-diseases physician
So making the blanket statement 'would go against the science' but he can't actually give any specific examples of vaccines that were placebo-trialled to fight the supposed misinformation, because there aren't any. But telling the public it was disinfo and to Trust The Science (TM) worked before, so hopefully it will again!
>The HHS statement and others from Kennedy casting doubt on vaccine safety are part of his long-running effort to decrease confidence in immunizations, said David Gorski, a Wayne State University School of Medicine professor of surgery and oncology
Another statement implying that improving future safety testing is actually an effort to decrease confidence even though it would, presumably, increase confidence if the vaccines actually passed the testing.
>Additionally, many vaccines have been tested against placebos, the experts said.
Again, not one example is given.
>But when a disease is already well understood, scientists can look for evidence that vaccines induce a biological response that has been scientifically shown to protect against the disease — what scientists call “a correlate of protection.”
Except no biological response has ever been shown to protect against the disease directly if no placebo-controlled RCT has been perform. They're just looking at antibody titers and assuming 'this should probably work' lmao.
>“It’s just not correct. They obviously don’t understand how vaccines are approved and how one obtains safety data,” said Michael Osterholm
Hmm. Seems like they don't want the public to understand how vaccines are approved.

No. 2507226

>>2506962
I dont like RFK but this is based. Why would you even develop a vaccine you don't actually plan on ensuring works?

No. 2507310

>>2507226
When in doubt 'money' is usually a pretty safe bet.

No. 2507564

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>>2506962
Most RFK opinions are actually brought out. He flips between pro and anti vax, and then made a huge deal about microplastics and shutting down plastic companies, but then enforced plastic straws

No. 2507584

Gilead is realistic to happen to the US. This country has a pretty unspeakable and fucked up history and we already have concentration camps, and elites already use surrogates (primarily poor women), and military ops, dismantling the constitution is already happening. There are unrealistic aspects of it though, like forced outfits, mass firings of women, etc. if handmaids tale came to life it won't be an exact version of such

No. 2507592

>anons in this thread not realizing that a placebo vaccine trial for diseases that are deadly and we already have safe reliable vaccines to prevent them, is scientifically unethical
We’re so cooked

No. 2507623

>>2507592
Most vaccines are tested on rats before they are humans, given there's taboo around animal testing but I'd rather a couple of rats die of measles if it means making vaccinations that actually work, no?

No. 2507628

>>2507592
>inb4 "trust me guys, as a former scientist…"

No. 2507637

>>2507564
Many "antivaxxers" think that some vaccines are ok, it's just all the brand new ones mandated for everything that are clearly a money grab that they are against. I don't see thinking some are ok and wanting to test others as a flip flop. Personally I think measles and polio are fine but the flu and covid ones are garbage.

No. 2507642

>>2506970
Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm not an expert on this but don't a lot of vaccines completely prevent the illness? Like if I get a tetanus shot, I'm not going to get infected with tetanus, not even in a mild form. Same for rabies or HPV, no? Then again I did get vaccinated for the zoster virus as a baby but I still got chicken pox as a toddler…

No. 2507652

>>2507637
>Many "antivaxxers" think that some vaccines are ok
This is something a lot of people don't understand. It's a whole spectrum, you have people that get all of their vaccines and give them to the kids, but don't get the COVID vaccine because they're at no risk of COVID, and you have people that think all vaccines are bullshit and weird conspiracy theories around them. Fear mongering about anti vaxxers has existed long before the COVID vaccine though. I worked in hospitals since 2015 and even remember someone bitching about anti vaxxers and I was like ??? Bitch where? At worst I met people who were against the flu vaccine but only because they had a bad reaction to it themselves or know people who did. A lot of people have been fed psyops very hard that they're scared to even question the efficiency of some vaccines, but can't seem to find anything wrong with the fact it's been drilled in their head to just be injected with a vaccine that they can't even sue the company for if they have a vaccine injury

No. 2507667

>>2507642
It doesn't make you 100% immune per se but definitely supposed to decrease the risk by a good bit. COVID and flu in particular were complete flops even though people were swearing up and down you wouldn't get COVID and if you don't get the vaccine you're gonna be a super spreaders of COVID and run around killing grandmas, just to pull out at last minute and claim "well uhh actually it just reduces the risk you'll die" even though no statistics show that

No. 2507675

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>>2507652
All the propaganda against "antivaxxers" was so eye opening, people really freak out if you so much as dare to question anything. It's like a religion to people. I'll never forget about picrel.

No. 2507687

>>2507675
>The most agreed consequence for unvaccinated from Democrats was house arrest
>The most agreed consequence for unvaccinated from conservatives were concentration camps
Didn't they spend all that time trying to convince us only trumptards are anti vax when Trumptards also want to round us up and send us to camps?

No. 2507719

>>2507716
That's terrible too don't get me wrong, it's just weird the one that Republicans agreed most with was concentration camps

No. 2507724

>>2507719
Yeah, that is strange, I guess maybe because when Republicans want to punish people for something they go all in on it? Where democrats tend to go for lighter punishments

No. 2507744

>>2507687
Fucked up, but only 20% as opposed to nearly 50% dems
>t. former dem, not a republican

No. 2507810

>>2507592
How do you know if the vaccine is safe and reliable if there has never been an RCT for it against placebo or even an observational study between vaxed and unvaxed populations? You can keep repeating 'this thing that has never been scientifically tested is safe and effective against X disease' as much as you want but some people actually want to see evidence for a drug before they inject it into their bodies and it's difficult to argue they're being unreasonable.

>>2507623
Vaccines are often tested for safety in rats but they can't really test for efficacy since most viruses and bacteria affect different species differently. Most viral diseases will never or only very rarely jump between species and even if they do, the effect of the virus on one species will be very different than another (e.g. SARS1).

>>2507642
How do you know the vaccine completely prevents the illness if you never tested whether it does? There's also a difference between 'prevents illness' (i.e., prevents symptoms) and 'sterilizing immunity' (i.e., prevents infection). Sterilizing immunity should theoretically mean that you don't get infected and can't transmit the virus or bacteria to anyone else, which is not the same as never being symptomatic.

The tetanus shot specifically is often given several days after a person is wounded, same with rabies shots. That wouldn't really give 'sterilizing immunity' since you would presumably already be infected before even getting the vaccine. But anyway conflating bacterial infections like tetanus with viral ones (most other scheduled vaccines) just because they're both injectables doesn't make much sense since bacterial and viral infections tend to behave differently in many key ways.

No. 2507812

>>2507810
I got the tetanus shot as a normal shot and got a booster 10 years after. Lots of people get it routinely. Either way, I agree with everything else you’re saying as far as bacterial vs viral not being in the same category. I also got the rabies shot as a preventable for working with a bat rescue, although that’s not as common as people casually being given the tetanus one.

No. 2507820

>>2507812
I know some people get the tetanus shot as a routine shot nonna I'm just pointing out that they're frequently used as a post-exposure prophylactic which obviously isn't supposed to serve the same purpose as a 'sterilizing immunity vaccine.' The only time I got a tetanus shot was like 3-4 days after I stepped on a rusty nail. If I had been infected there would already have been significant infection in my foot prior to the vaccine working so it wouldn't have been 'sterilizing.' You don't have to take my word for it, you can try to find studies proving sterilizing immunity - I tried and couldn't find anything actually directly proving it and a lot of vaccinologists will say openly they don't think there's any proof of sterilizing immunity or even that no one ever tried to test for it. I'd be happy to take a look if you found some proof for it though since I spent the first 30-ish years of my life believing that was the whole point of vaccines and was very surprised to learn it apparently isn't.

No. 2507836

>>2507724
A lot of conservatives use conservatism as a disguise for their sociopathic tendencies so this makes perfect sense. One of the biggest pro vaxxers I know actually agreed unvaccinated should be homeless or in camps, but also during COVID partied during the peak, they're also trump tards but also left the country when he won claiming "we were planning on it anyway". I don't believe they actually agree with what they put out sometimes

Also why a lot of conservatives are stuck on abortion because pretending women who get abortions are actually murdering alive children gives them an excuse to sperg about women and even claim women are more evil than men, and how they use immigrants as an excuse to impose cruel measures

No. 2507841

>>2507836
>conservatism as a disguise for their sociopathic tendencies
>sociopathic tendencies
>the number of democrats who supported putting people in 'concentration camps' was more than double the number of republicans
If I were to guess why 'quarantine camps' were the most popular option among conservatives I'd guess it's because it sounds like a medical measure rather than a punitive measure. The democrats favored punitive measures that would not necessarily prevent disease spread like fining the unvaccinated and imprisoning vaccine critics (unvaccinated or not) while the republican respondents favored 'quarantine,' something that generally is assumed to prevent the spread of disease. I have no great love for republicans but they clearly come out of this poll looking a lot better than people who have a 45% rate of wanting to punish people who just criticize something verbally.

No. 2507866

>>2507841
Democrats are easily influenced if you claim it's for science and helping people, which is stupid they're so easily fooled but the one party that's supposed to question doctors and science somehow favored the most bizarre options out of all options available

No. 2507875

>>2507866
Despite all the fascist and marxist accusations flying around, the average US republican is some semi-retarded person who knows nothing about science and 'just wants things to go back to normal' and the average US democrat is some semi-retarded person who knows nothing about science and 'just wants to support science, progress and inclusivity!' Sadly this means that the latter type is more likely to accept any insane proposition as long as it's pitched to them as a form of science-support or progress. There's a smaller number of very smart people in both these groups who will have more sophisticated reasoning abilities but the average person is pretty dumb and uninformed and makes knee-jerk decisions based on group affiliation and a general sense of 'values,' 'common sense,' etc. Since the Democratic party talking heads have made a huge deal of vilifying 'misinformation and disinformation and malinformation' as the big scary hydra causing social retardation and stopping social progress I'm not at all surprised that democrat voters on average want to be more punitive about people having the wrong opinion. Ironically Trump took credit (and continues to take credit) for operation warp speed and talks about how wonderful and beautiful the vaccines were so there is some subset of MAGA people who support the vaccine just because Trump said it's good. I find it interesting that a majority of republican voters didn't want to punish unvaccinated people regardless, it suggests that most of them are not Trump loyalists per se but rather run-of-the-mill 'things didn't used to be this way, we used to have 1A rights' small-c conservatives.

At any rate I think modern left/liberals passed the torch of 'questioning big pharma' to modern conservatives sometime in the last 10-15 years and a lot of former left/liberals went with it. Part of the reason a lot of people I know (who always voted left before) started voting for more right-leaning parties is the pharma-critical view itself. People tend to view left/right identity and positions as something that remains stable over time but that is not the case, political parties and groups play hot potato with certain issues over time and a lot of voters will follow depending on how important that issue is to them. 'We must all believe in the capitalist technocrats' was viewed as a conservative position when I was growing up but now it's perceived as a liberal position, same as free speech so I think that generally explains the responses on the posted graph.

No. 2507897

>>2507875
I agree, the left would've gotten a good bit of support if they didn't just act like a bunch of tards during COVID. Given - I found the Republican vaccine Nazis so much more unbearable than Democrat vaccine Nazis, even though Republican vaccine Nazis were rarer but worse. If we had a space where you couldn't receive backlash for going against the vaccine I can guarantee right now there's way more COVID antivaxxers than what's being shilled

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>>2507897
>there's way more COVID antivaxxers than what's being shilled
Definitely. There was a lot of data wrangling to make the vaccinated proportion look larger than it actually was but even in highly-vaccinated countries like Canada and the UK reliable data shows easily 20-40% didn't get 2 vaccines. Anecdotally an easy half of my entire friend group never got vaccinated (some got fake vaccine cards) and all of us are college-educated and either current leftists or former leftists who became right/centrist around 2020. Even the ones who did get vaccinated mostly did so reluctantly because they needed to travel or their work required vax cards and many of them still did anti-vaccine activism even if they were vaccinated themselves, like my vaxed friend who was head of the department student union at a big school who managed to get a vax requirement struck down for the entire department. Most provax people would never guess any of us are unvaccinated against COVID since we otherwise look just like them, they assume we shared their views because those were the views everyone in the media was shilling. Only one person in my entire extended family got vaccinated against COVID and he was the only one who had severe COVID symptoms, two of my relatives are nurses and they didn't get the COVID vax either. They were threatened with job loss (UK NHS) but so many HCW refused the vaccine they walked back the layoff threats last minute because they would have been too severely understaffed. Where I live something like 30-40% of nurses refused the vaccine so they walked back our HCW layoffs too.

Also kek remember this study from 2021 (picrel) that showed PhD holders were the most vaccine-hesitant group? I'd be so curious to see a follow-up study.

No. 2507938

>>2507910
This sounds about right, I also wonder how many people who got vaccinated that regret it or don't believe the vaccine actually worked. It seems like the most common view among the vaccinated people I know is that they got the vaccine, but when they got COVID multiple times it didn't seem like the vaccine actually did anything or make COVID bearable

No. 2507977

>>2507938
Me and my boyfriend were pretty open and public about being unvaccinated for COVID but he knows more people than me (I'm a social butterfly and have a relatively large friend group but I work a solitary remote job, he has a job where he works with hundreds of different people on a regular basis irl). He tells me on like a weekly basis about former vax shills approaching him at work events and telling him he was right, they regret the vax (due to severe health issues or just getting COVID repeatedly or worries about new science coming out), or even that they don't regret getting it but they don't understand what the big deal was since every vaccinated person they know kept getting COVID anyway and they regret pushing people away over it. Personally I stopped talking to most of my rabidly provax friends (or they stopped talking to me because I was a nazi kek) so I don't have these conversations as often but my friends who felt they were 'forced' to get it do come to me complaining about health issues that started after they got the shots and asking me for advice/comfort, like notably multiple female friends who never got regular periods back since 2021 and are worried they may not be able to have children in the future. One thing I've noticed is that the social connections I formed during lockdowns with other lockdown skeptics tend to be very strong friendships now while a lot of the pro-vaxers seem to be feeling lonely and disconnected, possibly because they were so aggressive and actively cut off so many friendships over something they now realize wasn't as important as they thought it was. Me and other unvaxed people I know get the occasional 'actually I really didn't mean it, please stop being mad, we were all just doing our best right?' messages from former friends who told us they hoped we ended up dead or whatever in 2021-2022 and it's a weird experience. I know people whose families went no contact with them over this shit and their parents/siblings are now coming back begging them to 'just be normal and get over it' so even just on a social level, it seems like the vaxers regret more than the 'antivaxers' who in many cases were perfectly accepting of people who got the COVID vax as long as they left us alone about it. I never cut anyone out of my life just because they chose to get vaccinated. Most of the severe extremism I saw was on the pro-vax side and all of the regret I see has been on the pro-vax side.

No. 2507979

>>2507938
I was coerced into getting it and regret it all the time. It didn't do shit and I'm pretty sure it's actually harmful. I know a girl who died from it in fact, obviously nobody is going to say that was the cause, but she fit the pattern of being perfectly normal and healthy and then dropping dead from myocarditis all of a sudden. I think about how that could have been me and I'm angry at the people who coerced me into getting it.

No. 2507990

>>2507979
I'm so sorry about your friend anon. Thankfully none of my friends had that happen to them but I know several people that had that happen to someone they were close with. My grandma had multiple organ failure and was in the hospital (for something unrelated) during COVID lockdowns, refused to get vaccinated despite being like 80yo at the time, then got COVID after she was released from the hospital and she still survived and is fine now. However her lifelong best friend/next door neighbor and her daughter both got vaccinated together on the same day about 2 weeks after my grandma got out of the hospital, and both of them died within 48 hours. I also have a friend my age whose teenage school athlete cousin died within 24 hours of being vaccinated, from a heart attack.

I also had a friend who had a known allergy/autoimmune reaction to the adjuvants in the COVID vaccine (i.e., had been hospitalized and almost died from vaccines in the past) whose doctor denied her a vaccine exemption because he would get his license taken away if he gave her a medical exemption. He basically told her 'don't get the vaccine or you will likely get Guillain-Barre and die, but you're on your own, good luck.' She thankfully got a fake vax card through another service provider but she was in deep shit because her job required traveling across the border regularly and we live in a country that had travel restrictions for unvaccinated people, so she was like 'I either starve from losing all my work or I die of an autoimmune reaction.'

If it makes you feel any better most of the side effects from the COVID vaccine seemed to show themselves pretty quickly after the last dose, so if you're still healthy you'll probably be okay.

No. 2507997

>>2507977
I worked in a hospital peak COVID, I remember one of the nurses who was super crazy about the vaccine suddenly chilled out after a while and when she would have to train new students she would mention "well the vaccine doesn't actually prevent COVID it prevents us from dying when we get it". Or how hard medical staff who busted their ass during COVID to save lives got slammed for being antivax since they'd watch people always come in and die despite being vaccinated

No. 2508012

>>2507997
I'm the anon who has two NHS nurse aunts and they kept telling me how they were getting booked for double-shifts multiple times a week because every time the other nurses got their COVID vaccines they would all call off sick for like 2 weeks straight with COVID symptoms kek. They were complaining of like extreme burnout because they were picking up extra shifts like crazy and the hospital was constantly understaffed and the only people coming in to work regularly were the like 3 people in their unit who hadn't gotten vaccinated.

>medical staff who busted their ass during COVID to save lives got slammed for being antivax

Not exactly related but I still remember that one NYC doctor from Elmhurst or whatever who went on the news telling people that ventilators were actually making his COVID patients worse and explained that it was busting out people's lungs and got instantly terminated. Then a few months later everyone was like 'oh yeah sorry ventilators don't work for COVID.' I still wonder what that guy is up to and if he got his job back but I don't remember his name anymore so I can't look him up. Anyway my aunts who work for the NHS were so shitmad about all the pot and pan slamming and free pizza because they were like 'I just want one thing and it's for people to leave me the fuck alone and stop harassing me about masks and vaccines while I go work my wards with a skeleton crew because everyone's sick with post-vaccine fever' kek. One of my aunts told me that they had to wear N95 masks on the ward but they had to wear the same one for a week uninterruptedly, keep it in a locker overnight and at the end of the week they got washed in the hospital laundry and redistributed lmfao. An entire week wearing the same dirty mask. She just stopped wearing it and apparently ignored it every time people mentioned it to her and they couldn't do anything about it because they were so shortstaffed they were too scared to discipline her kek, she told me she worked with literally thousands of symptomatic COVID patients coughing in her face and never got COVID once after the first time she got it in like April 2020.

No. 2508052

Stuff like the "satanic panic" were real, but they weren't satanic. They were Christian. Look at all the pseudochristian cults that DO do fucked up "rituals" involving child sexual and physical abuse and god knows fucking what. The Catholic Church is full of pedos too, that's common knowledge. Any conspiracies about satanism are all a scare to hide away the actual problem in plain sight.

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>>2508052
I'm more surprised Christians don't know this, it's not unusual especially in small towns for the local animal sacrificing satanists to disguise their whole thing as a Christian church.

>t. Lived in multiple small towns my entire life

My hometown had a church disguised as a normie Christian church but the pastor was stealing pets for sacrifice, but I also lived near stull Kansas where the gates of hell were and there's still an operating "christian" church that's always heavily suspected of satanism. That being said, ofc actual dark satanists will disguise their BS with Christianity, did they expect satanists to just open up "Satan and animal sacrifice center of [town name]?

No. 2508091

>>2508081
That, but some genuinely truly believe they are Christians and were raised "Christian". Like JWs. They dress their kids up roleplaying the Nativity or whatever Bible scene they pick and then do nasty things to them and tell them God wuvs them so much for the raping they just took or some crap

No. 2508269

>>2507628
No one itt has said "just trust me, I'm a scientist" but the scientists in that WaPo article sure did.

>>2508052
I agree that the 'satanic panic' was probably real (the main woman responsible for the whole 'false/implanted memories' hoax has since been largely debunked) but kids were probably remembering chaotic ritual sexual abuse memories and then being fed 'satanic' explanations by their freaked out parents. We know child sexual exploitation rings exist so I don't know why we should automatically discount the accounts of children in close geographical proximity who claim to have been victims, but probably some of the things they reported were inaccurate after the satanic panic craze took hold and parents started asking them if they saw pentagrams or witches or baphomet or whatever. PTSD and dissociation famously cause victims' memories to be fuzzy and disjointed, I'm not sure why that wouldn't apply here.

>>2508081
>did they expect satanists to just open up "Satan and animal sacrifice center of [town name]?
The only people who do that are those meme satanic churches that exist just to clown on other religions. When people mention 'satanic rituals' I think they're talking about something more general, like anything including sacrifices, certain symbology, etc. not those people who put big baphomet statues in front of public buildings to make a point.

No. 2508289

>>2508269
Absolutely. I believe at least SOME of the trauma that self-proclaimed survivors claim is real. Except their cult family or higherups brainwashed them to believe those were just the devil speaking. Hell, that gaslighting happens in actual Christian cults all the time.
An average Christian family that preaches live love laugh all the time will probably raise brows at their child coming home from Sunday church school and telling them they were uncomfortable or that the priest touched them. After all, the church is pure and good, so their child must be fed some scary demon bullshit! This exact rhetoric is why so much religious abuse gets dismissed and this is just walking out of tinfoil territory at this point, it happens all the time

No. 2508290

>>2508282
If you look at the 'exorcism' craze that started after the Exorcist movie, you see a lot of people reporting kind of similar things (like memories that can't have been real of seeing demons or being dragged across the ceiling or whatever) in response to abuse (the exorcism itself) that definitely is real. I'm not sure why people see a cluster of kids claiming they were raped by a common neighbor and assume all the kids are lying just because they reported some weird stuff happening like a witch or a demon, it's more likely someone got to them during/after and confused them with weird symbology but the sexual abuse was real. It's also very possible that the ritual sexual abusers did actually use some 'satanic' symbols during their sexual abuse, the same way traditional frat hazings often consist of similar themes like locking people in coffins or making them fuck pig corpses or whatever. But memories can also be manipulated after an event occurs to the point where a child starts confusing the actual memories from the event with lines they've been fed about it in the interim.

No. 2508298

>>2508052
Most males are pedo degens so pastors being pedos isn't a surprise. Anyway sorry didn't mean to derail.

No. 2508305

>>2508290
Children also generally tell the truth and aren't capable of lying as much as their adult counterparts. Or if they're too traumatised or threatened to stay silent then they'll just stay silent. If some grown adults start piling up and claiming they all went through satanic abductions just to claim disability benefits or something then it would be suspicious for obvious reasons, but children claiming they all got abused in a certain house should raise some alarm bells in any reasonable person
Also, kids also simultaneously believe in the Tooth Fairy and Santa Claus and fairies and shit, of course maybe they'd add some elements of witches and scary stuff to describe their fear. Disregarding a child's story because of something like that is ridiculous.
Also, it's institutional. It's not just a group of random child porn hoarders deciding to do this, they thrive off being in well-paid positions in society and often can weasel their way out of any investigations as a result, like all shitty businesses and churches

No. 2508307

>>2508269
It's funny how online tinfoilers can describe science better than actual scientists. Even if they're wrong, they're not just like "you're wrong and ignorant if you don't trust me"

No. 2508308

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>>2508052
It's always kind of obvious imo but at least everyone sees it in picrel

No. 2508310

>>2507990
COVID vax gave me and my dad autoimmune diseases that have persisted for 4 years. Mine became evident within 12 hours of the second vaccine in April 2021. Diagnosed in may 2021 after losing 20% of my body weight in 3 weeks. My dads was more subtle so even though he knew he felt like shit it took until June 2021 for him to get the diagnosis.

No. 2508315

>>2508310
Were you optimistic getting it or did you worry about the side effects?

No. 2508317

>>2508308
Jesus fucking Christ I'm glad for the spoiler but that face needs a double triple trigger warning holey shit kek

No. 2508322

>>2508317
Kek sorry anon. Thanks for warning the others, he's somehow worse in movement

No. 2508336

>>2508322
I'm afraid of clicking on that… I feel I will be attacked by true demonic energy from that face and it's 10am bright but I'm still scared. Guess that's the effect of such a creature.

No. 2508341

>>2508305
If you look into the history of the woman who popularized the 'satanic panic was fake implanted memories' shit you'll understand what actually happened. She was on the payroll of some of the people who were accused. She also worked as an expert witness for Harvey Weinstein, if that tells you anything, kek - she argued that Weinstein's victims had 'implanted false memories' of sexual abuse too and none of them were saying shit about pentagrams or witches.

No. 2508342

>>2508315
I was worried about the side effects and the efficacy in general considering I’m anti-vax when it comes to flu shots. Same goes for my parents. But I’m also a hypochondriac and wanted to travel and eat inside places without having extreme health anxiety. I’m the kind of person who hears someone sniffling or coughing and books it, keeps hand sanitizer on me at all times, etc, I have been like this since forever basically. Way before COVID. I have pics of me with my giant pump of purell on my desk that I made all my friends use when visiting kek. Everyone brushing Covid off as “it’s just like the flu it’s nbd” scared me too, because for me the flu kicks my ass for a month and then I generally get secondary infections and am out of commission for 2-3 months. So I figured covid was like the flu but more severe and WAY more contagious/insidious. When COVID first came around in 2020 I was like, there’s no way they’ll get me to take some rushed vaccine for this shit. But then 2021 rolled around and the fear was still palpable so I just got it done. My dad promptly got Covid post vax and it wasn’t mild though he didn’t have to go to the hospital. Me? Still never gotten Covid, turns out I’m likely one of those bastards that can’t get infected. So the vaccine was entirely unnecessary for me.

No. 2508364

>>2508342
Sorry that happened to you anon, I had a friend who was similar. Officially diagnosed hypochondriac who decided to get the COVID vax because of her hypochondria and then like 5 hours after getting it she said it actually made her health anxiety worse, she lost her period for 3-4 months and started fully freaking out to the point she asked everyone not to even mention the vax or vax side effects around her because it triggered her hypochondria cascades. I don't think she got any other diseases other than some reproductive health issue with her periods but I thought it was evil what they did to already mentally vulnerable people with health anxiety.

I have issues with my immune system/mild autoimmunity (hypothyroid) too and have near-died from 'run of the mill' pathogens before but that was part of my reason for not getting the vaccine. I was an early confirmed COVID case (through track-and-trace, I never took a COVID test because I didn't want them shoving shit up my nose but I had extended contact with one of the first confirmed cases in my city) at the beginning of March 2020 and it was a 2-day mild cough for me, I decided I wasn't going to push things with untested gene therapy injections. I had the healthiest couple years of my life for the 2-ish years that COVID seemed to outcompete the flu viruses while every vaccinated person around me was getting sick constantly but now I'm back to suffering for 3 weeks from every fucking cold like I used to. Oh well I had a good run those couple years, except for getting no medical attention for my confirmed actual disease the whole time because doctors weren't seeing patients.

If you don't mind telling us what kind of autoimmune issues did it cause? Like what happened over that first 12 hours and afterward?

No. 2508373

>>2508364
My periods are so bad they make me pass out,so I just never got the vax because I heard side effects of it making your period harder and more frequent. I got COVID once and it was just a cold for me for a couple of days, the worst part is losing taste cause I'm a foodie

No. 2508381

>>2508373
Kek this was the excuse I gave my doctor, I have both (severe) endometriosis I take opioids for and PCOS. When I told her 'I heard it makes periods worse and/or irregular' she straight-out told me 'yeah, that's true, most of my female patients have had reproductive issues after the vaccine, but why would you care anyway when you already have problems with menstruation?' Maybe she was lowkey trying to encourage me not to get the vax but I think she's literally just that retarded.

No. 2508388

>>2508081
>My hometown had a church disguised as a normie Christian church but the pastor was stealing pets for sacrifice, but I also lived near stull Kansas where the gates of hell were and there's still an operating "christian" church that's always heavily suspected of satanism.
I'm not doubting that most so-called Christian organizations are evil af and use religion as a shield to deflect from their evil acts but was this proven or just some small town gossip?

No. 2508390

>>2508336
Not to spirituality-fag but it's good to face demonic energy head on so it has no power over you. Affection is much scarier bc then you're forced to care about the entity, which can be a huge risk

No. 2508397

>>2508390
NTA but isn't it fine to just recognize the face in the thumbnail as demonic and choose not to spend more time than necessary watching demonic people move about and talk and shit? I don't really believe in demons but my mom does and she always tells me that the best way to deal with demons if you encounter them is to acknowledge they are demonic and then ignore them/not give them any more attention.

No. 2508401

>>2508081
>>2508388
Legit spiritual non-Laveyan Satanism doesn't regularly involve animal sacrifices, that's the edgy shit bored teenagers emulate from horror movies. So if there were regular animal sacrifices they probably weren't getting much out of that except sadism. Some people might ritualistically kill a chicken as an offering from time to time but all of that "bluhh sell ur soul to tha devil 4 money and fame" is Hollywood bullshit. Unfortunately there are a lot of edgy people out there doing little more than theatrics to suit their egos.

No. 2508412

>>2508401
At some point does it matter if people ritualistically and sadistically abusing children (and possibly also sacrificing animals or whatever) believe in 'legit' Satanism or not? The whole controversy happened because a bunch of kids were reporting being sexually abused by the same handful of people and some 'therapist' insisted they'd had memories falsely implanted by the news media and their parents or whatever which everyone just took to be much more plausible than an actual child sex trafficking ring and whenever children or women reported 'ritual' or mass sexual abuse forever after they were assumed to be crazy schizos.

No. 2508414

>>2508413
AYRT and I wasn't being glib, I'm genuinely asking if my mom is wrong. I'm not like a true believer in demons but I assumed that if I ever did encounter one I should take my mom's advice and not pay it any mind, because apparently the more attention you give to demons the easier it is for them to fuck with you. Are you saying you actually SHOULD pay attention to demons and seek out images/video/etc. of demonic entities?

No. 2508415

>>2508397
Sorry I didn't read the last half of your post bc I keep trying to leave lc and do work. I think either way is good tbh. Some anons say you shouldn't anger them bc it pisses the demonic energy off but imo it's attracted to fear, misery and anxiety

No. 2508419

>>2508415
Lol it's okay nonna I'm also trying to focus on work and have been failing all day, I get you. I think at least in the Christian tradition the view of demons from what I understand is that they target people who are vulnerable, rather than people who piss them off. If you have a healthy enough view of the world that you'd rather not watch some demonic looking pedo talking I think you're probably not a good candidate for demons to bother according to what I have been told by people who really do strongly believe in demons. But I guess in that view also being afraid of looking at them might also make you vulnerable.

No. 2508428

>>2508390
Ayrt I was just joking kek

No. 2508447

>>2508341
Exactly. Also, from a psychological perspective, pure implanted memories aren't a fucking thing. Unless you already have trauma that makes you dissociate at brainwashing levels to take in stimuli. I don't think it would be possible in 100% nontraumatised normies with healthy attachments and mental strength. If someone's claiming they have memories of something it's a sign they need help for at least one mental ailment. Maybe the memories really are fake, but that could also be another mental disorder like false memory ocd or schizophrenia etc.

No. 2508457

Ariana Grande might be a Project Monarch victim. I'm pretty sure that a lot of those kids on Nickelodeon were abused by powerful people. Brian Peck worked on a lot of Dan Schneider's shows in the early 2000s so maybe they were in kahoots. Ariana isn't a great actress but she's an amazing skinwalker. The point of Project Monarch was to sexually abuse/traumatize children to split their personalities and induce dissociative states for espionage and mind control. We all know that Hollywood is basically a giant brothel anyway.

No. 2508488

>>2508447
I think it might be possible for someone to mistake memories from a movie or vivid dream (if they were young enough and/or if they were in a dissociated state while the memory was being formed) to confuse it with reality, but otherwise I agree with you. I have some memories of dreams I had when I was under 5 years old that feel at least as vivid and realistic as real memories except I remember they were dreams and didn't happen, there might be some possibility to convince someone those memories really did happen but they'd still have to be linked to some actual thing that occurred. I don't think you can just tell your kid with the power of suggestion 'our next door neighbour raped you in this extremely graphic way while witches were flying all around' and get that kid to continue to believe it really happened for the next 10+ years.

No. 2508491

>>2501255
WOC especially black women have been the scapegoat for decades, everyone makes jokes but a bunch of sissy leftists whine and you wanna cry? You know you can always run back into the suburbs and have a soft existence. No other group can claim that. Feminism is functionally dead in this country because no one wants to be honest about anything.

No. 2508495

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>>2508419
>not a good candidate for demons to bother
That means a lot nona, ty kek. I agree with that and it seems like most people have experiences with that energy when they're in some kind of weakened state. I also think it's one thing to address demonic energy you're afraid of that is confronting you and seeking it out, even to mock/make fun of. Kenneth copeland had to double check if that is his real last name kek is a pretty well known example but I wouldn't intentionally watch his crazy sermons or post him repeatedly, beyond this example. Even shows like "righteous gemstones" give me the ick bc it's like that energy latches on to even parody and genuinely seems attracted to christian topics. The kenneth copeland types are always searching for scapegoats of evil (like picrel) when in reality, even a literal totem idol of a satanic hedgehog is less evil than (many) active human preachers

No. 2508551

>>2508373
Now that you mention it, my period actually did get worse after getting the vaccine. Before I felt no different than usual except for bleeding, but afterwards I started getting cramps and my anxiety increased. I just chalked it up to getting older but maybe the vaccine had something to do with it.

No. 2508558

>>2508457
Doubt it, she’s a daughter of a powerful and wealthy family. She perpetuates the system because it benefits her, not because she is a victim of CIA brainwashing. Monarch project victims don’t come from already powerful families - MK ultra victims can but they’re not generally put into entertainment and rather involved in more CIA and or military sort of stuff.

No. 2508608

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>>2508551
You would not be alone if so, this doesn't even belong on the tinfoil thread it's so well-documented.

No. 2508680

>>2508457
Where can I read more about this that's not bogus books with alien abductions?

No. 2508788

>>2508680
Usually you can just skim the alien bits or sometimes skip the chapters at least

No. 2509025

>>2508608
>this doesn't even belong on the tinfoil thread it's so well-documented
While I'd typically agree, church of COVID type folks are so obsessed with the idea that nothing is wrong with the vaccine and it's all just from other explanations. Like the person in the baby thread trying to convince us the amount of miscarriages following the vaccine "was because vaccinated people were just stressed more"

No. 2509086

>>2509025
AYRT and I know, mods might even redtext you for expressing any vax-critical views elsewhere on the site. Just pointing out it shouldn't be considered tinfoil even if there is some crazy cult-like belief in general society that nothing about this specific pharmaceutical product could ever possibly be bad despite the thousands of failed and dangerous pharmaceuticals people have produced over the years. This is the one you can't criticize no matter what!

>trying to convince us the amount of miscarriages following the vaccine "was because vaccinated people were just stressed more"

Why would they even be more stressed? Aren't they supposed to be less stressed now that they're safe from the most dangerous disease ever, a cold?

No. 2509180

what do you think about this? that rap was pushed or altered to glorify misogyny and materialism so that men would commit more crimes and buy more crap.

No. 2509258

>>2509180
A whole bunch of people who were in the music industry at that time have directly verified that this happened so I think it's true, personally.

No. 2509630

I'm not antivax by any means but the COVID shot did make lots of people report fatigue and other detrimental symptoms. I hate how you get called schizo for this

No. 2509673

>>2509630
You're not schizo. The only people still obsessed with how "safe and effective" the vaccine is are either shill bots or people who used COVID fear mongering as an excuse to act like pieces of shit towards family and friends

No. 2510019

>>2503742
The amount of cope and seethe in this post kek.
>claiming that anon has a rape fantasy
Literally kys and wash your scrotum. I guarantee no woman is fantasizing about being raped by your disgusting ethnic scrotes. Nobody capes for rapist Muslim and Black scrotes more than Muslim and Black women. Muslim and Black women are screeching for us to give a shit about Muslim and Black scrotes dying (Palestine and BLM bullshit) when Muslim and Black moids rape White women 1000x more often than White men commit rape against them). Black and Muslim women are birthing these disgusting subhuman plagues that everyone increasingly hates and is fatigued by (and rightly so)
>hurr you're just imagining that ethnic scrotes want to rape white women
Then why were 99% of the Rotherham rapists brown and 99% of their victims White? Why is ethnic men raping White women in the west so much more common than the reverse? Again, kys.
>hurr muh FGM
You are weird as hell for constantly bringing up thirdie women's mutilated genitals as if thats the only thing that defines them and as if thats a common practice outside of some African shitholes (most female immigrants to the west arent even African anyway). And ofc thirdie women don't care as much about White women because White women don't have a significant presence in their shitholes anyway. But their scrotes still dream of coming to the west and raping WW anyway.
White women are literally the only reason any women have any rights. Black scrotes were given rights before Women were. Which just proves how much our society still coddles and prioritizes Black scrotes over women's lives. Again just kys and go back to caping for violent criminals lile George Floyd again.

No. 2510021

Lawyers and police officers take bribes all the time and if you try to say this you'll get called schizo and that it never happened because it's illegal and secondly you can't prove it.
No fucking shit a normal person can't prove it. How could they hack into their lawyer's email account and find the bribe offer unless they were some computer expert? Since the onus of proof is on you, you can't do anything and if your lawyer/police officer takes a bribe you're fucked.

No. 2510026

>>2510021
Coroners too.

No. 2510028

>>2510019
Most FGM is performed by the women of the tribe on little girls too.

No. 2510047

>>2509180
Ariana is definitely a bpdchan. And I'm certain that comes from her being sexually abused as a child (theres no doubt in my mind that happened to her)
A little while ago I saw an interview with a woman who was raped and groomed since she was a child and she said her groomers were part of an elite pedophile ring and they wanted her to become a famous teenage popstar in France so that she could seduce politicians and businessmen and get blackmail info on them. She also developed dissociative identity and multiple personality disorder.

It's no secret that you have to sell your ass in Hollywood to get ahead. Even most of the males in Hollywood are gay and raped…Jim Carey, Leonardo DiCaprio, Brad Pitt etc all lived with some mysterious older man when they were adolescent and before their career kicked off…no doubt they were getting assraped to make it…and it explains why Hollywood moids are so often violent and unhinged (Pitt attacked Angelina, Jim Carey is notoriously insane and depressive, Leonardo DiCaprio is obsessed with grooming much younger women etc)

No. 2510072

>>2508341
This. Calling the very real ritual sexual abuse of kids 'Satanic Panic' was an intentional smear of the victims/damage control done on behalf of these elite rape clubs, by paid off corrupt psycholologists. Redditards and pedophilic neckbeards still try to use the Satanic Panic psyop as a buzzword to downplay and deny the existence of ritualized pedophilia.
Ritualized child sexual abuse is absolutely real. There were two massive Satanic pedo rings uncovered in the UK just recently. It doesn't matter whether Satanism is real in itself, but these weirdos are for sure genuinely obsessed with traumatizing kids through making them perform fucked up rituals and scaring them into thinking a powerful dark entity will punish them if they don't go along with it as a control mechanism.
I'm not sure why the topic always gets diverted to debating whether or not Satanism is real, rather than admitting that pedophile weirdos do in fact practice Satanism and try to traumatize children with it. I mean Peter Scully is literally wearing a Baphomet/Demonic Goat head mask while holding those two children and the children scream and try to crawl away from him before he and his accomplices rape them. And yet people will deny that pedos incorporating Satanic elements into their abuse of kids as a fear and control mechanism is a lie. Total psyop and damage control.

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No. 2510092

>>2508447
That's a great point. I always thought it was so weird how the 'false/implanted memories' shtick was pushed so hard as legitimate and common. It was very obviously a way of delegitimizing genuine sexual abuse victims by encouraging a bunch of people who never experienced sexual assault to claim they have. As you said, false memories aren't a real thing unless the person has some kind of dissociative personality or trauma to begin with.

Justin Bieber is a perfect example of a groomed celebrity. Constantly left alone with older gay males and pedophiles. Received a (probably intentionally orchestrated) barrage of hate and slander in his formative years to further traumatize and devalue him. Plied with drugs from a young age so that people will put his understandably erratic trauma response behavior (and possibly, later suicide) down to drugs.
They've been doing this shit to celebrities since at least the 1930s. It peaked in the 1980s imo (theres literally not one male actor or singer from that time that wasn't raped by older pedophiles) but it's still common.

No. 2510102

>>2508401
Again who gives a fuck about what constitutes legitimate Satanism? The point is all religions are weaponized to sexually abused and control children. Satanism more often per capita since people involved in Satanism are usually anti society (like pedophiles are) and use it as a way of legitimizing their personal perversions and propensity to evildoing.

No. 2510120

>>2508052
It has nothing to do with religion. Any institution where men are in power will be full of pedophiles. Synagogues, Mosques, Churches, Mandirs, Temples, Religious organizations etc are full of pedophilia because they are inherently patriarchal and prey on the older male authority and younger victim dynamic.
Same goes for schools or kindergartens with male teachers, Hollywood, boy scouts, corporations, organizations or pretty much any dynamic and environment where men are put in charge of younger people, rape will exist. Religious organizations are just overrepresented since they're one of the few environments old men can get repeated and nonstop access to children, which is otherwise quite rare in our society because most people know better than to leave their kids in the hands of random men.

No. 2510138

What do you think is up with the constant media and societal push to normalize disgusting geriatric old men dating young verg young women? I remember reading that searches like 'petite, small tits, barely legal and teen' were much more common on porn sites among 50+ men than among younger men. I wish society was willing to have an open and honest conversation about how older men are quite literally a predatory pedophilic burden on society and need to be euthanized. If euthanasia focused on euthanized 50+ scrotes I would happily endorse it, I really don't see what older men contribute to society. The world would be so much better if they were all culled.

No. 2510188

>>2510072
>There were two massive Satanic pedo rings uncovered in the UK just recently
Oh shit, links/cases?

No. 2510192

>>2510138
The ugly male psyop thread explains quite a lot, but it's because men know how worthless they are so they project. Simple as that at the core, really. Also moids are all inherently pedos to some degree. Also maybe something about how women's eggs dry up at 30 (according to them) and how 100yo scrotes can still have "viable" sperm even though the child would turn out exponentially retarded

No. 2510227

>>2510192
There was an inorganic push on social media starting around 2012, for teenage girls to date old men. I remember it was constantly shilled on twitter and tumblr (mostly by gay moids running Lana fanblogs and stan twitter accounts) as well as early coquette blogs.
Gay moid culture has always centered around predatory older men becoming sugardaddies for impoverished younger twinks. Then like every other cancer gay moid trend they extrapolated it onto retarded libfems.

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No. 2510231

>>2510227
2012-2017 was a WILD time on the internet. People back then literally had no problems with men being pedos. I remember back then there used to be a lot of popular sugar baby youtube channels of 16 year olds and 17 year olds who were doing "how to be a sugar baby" videos and dating old men for money and no one had a problem with it and I barely say anyone critiquing them in the comments. I also remember this sugar baby who was really popular back then and he was 17 and his sugar daddy was in his 50's and I remember their relationship ended badly because the boy ended up getting a bit attached and started treating it like a real relationship but the older man didn't want that and only saw him as a object so they broke up. I remember him making a video crying about it and I never heard about him after that. Does anyone know who I'm talking about since I don't remember the name?

No. 2510235

>>2510228
And this is one of the many cases that thankfully got known. Imagine how many other kids out there are going through the same shit and getting told they're lying

No. 2510244

>>2510231
Completely agree. It's also insane how prevalent and normalized pedophilia was in the emo/scene movement. Nearly every single emo band was sleeping with underage girls. Not even girls who were made up or dressed up to 'look older' but literally just awkward acne ridden pudgy girls in MCR hoodies who undeniably looked 12 at the time. There's not a single millenial woman who wasn't predated on by men in their twenties during her teens, usually online too.

No. 2510257

>>2510244
The zoomers (the moids at least) bringing back emo/scene these days (emocore? scenecore?) are also equally pedos too. Except this time they groom on discord. It's just male behavior among any community popular with teens.

No. 2510277

>>2510257
That's depressing. I wonder why that aesthetic and movement attracts so many pedos. My guess is because the emo aesthetic is pretty childish and always associated with teenagers, plus most 'depressed and suicidal' online moids are really just bitter disempowered narcissists and bpdemon groomers.

No. 2510285

>>2510277
It's not specifically that aesthetic imo. It's any community that has a large amount of teens. Think gaming communities, fandoms that have both sexes, anything anywhere really.

No. 2510404

How does everyone feel about the Getaway Tapes? They were part of a declassified research done by the CIA. I'm struggling to astral project and they were helpful. But they randomly get scrubbed off youtube and it's suspicious.

No. 2510557

>>2510021
My uncle was a cop and this was why he retired. When he got high-up enough in the organization he realized everyone around him was taking bribes, especially his bosses (chief of police etc.) and they turned on him when he refused to take bribes. There was even a scandal in his department like a year or so before his retirement when the chief of police was caught taking gang bribes, so he just retired (with a multi-million retirement package) and his right-hand man who had also been taking bribes took over. He decided to retire one day when he got back to the station after having to arrest some minor drug runner guy with a newborn baby overnight and when he walked into his boss's office the boss was having tea and snacks with the gang boss. I just assume that any organization with power is corrupt at this point and the higher up people are in the organization the more corrupt they are.

>>2510244
It was incredibly normalized in the 2000s and early 2010s. I went on a forum that was 95% other teen girls and so many of them had irl old man boyfriends and only me and like one other girl on the entire forum would ever tell them it was creepy, everyone else would say they were jealous and wanted some creepy old rapist moid bf too. Then the sugar babying thing took off and so many young women romanticized that too. I actually think zoomer youths are way more creeped out by age gap relationships than millennials used to be, but it's an uphill battle because there is so much deliberate pedo normalization, even in the academic community.

No. 2510593

>>2510231
I actively tried to warn girls about this in those days and got nothing but abuse and insults from them, same with warning them about OF. Teenagers simply shouldn't be on the internet.

No. 2510666

was the sugar baby/age gap push also related to the ABDL shit? what the actual fuck was that about

No. 2510703

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I have become convinced AI is the literal, Biblical Antichrist. It fulfills all prophecies about the coming of the antichrist in the book of Revelations.
> Revelation 13: “And it performed great signs, even causing fire to come down from heaven to the earth in full view of the people. Because of the signs it was given power to perform on behalf of the first beast, it deceived the inhabitants of the earth”
> Revelation 19: “But the beast was captured, and with it the false prophet who had performed the signs on its behalf. With these signs he had deluded those who had received the mark of the beast and worshiped its image.”
The false prophet and the beast perform great signs to deceive the people of the earth. One sign mentioned in Revelation 13 is “causing fire to come down from heaven to the earth in full view of the people.” This sign has been performed since the Old Testament days, such as when Elijah did it to show the people of Israel that Jehovah is the only true God.
While this seems like a traditional sign, we should consider the context of the times in which the beast and false prophet will arise. We live in a scientific age where we seek scientific explanations for miracles, signs, and magic. As technology has advanced, miracles and signs have lost their appeal, being replaced by scientific understanding.
>For instance, if someone claims to perform miracles today, we might think of them as a charlatan. In this sense, the false prophet might perform “miracles” rooted in science rather than traditional miracles to deceive people effectively.
So it's quite possible that the false prophet does indeed bring down fire from heaven, but the other signs and miracles mentioned are scientific/technological, rather than "Biblical".
Moving on — Revelation 13 again:
>”It ordered them to set up an image in honor of the beast who was wounded by the sword and yet lived. The second beast was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed.”
Key Points:
>The false prophet is “given power to give breath to the image.”
>The verse mentions the image could speak but doesn’t mention it being able to move.
Looking at progress in AI, specifically in large language models (LLMs), we see significant advancements in conversational AI. Initially restricted to text, companies like ElevenLabs have added speech-to-text capabilities, making the speech sound human-like rather than monotonous and robotic. OpenAI has recently demonstrated significant advancements in speech technology. Their demos impressed people with how closely the generated speech resembles human speech.
There has also been progress in robotics (such as Boston Dynamics and Figure), but robotics is still in its infancy compared to AI text and speech. If (and that’s a big if) we’re in the end times, it’s possible that the “image” the false prophet installs could be an AI version of the beast. Consider this scenario:
>AI research around the world gains momentum, leading to several breakthroughs.
No one has managed to create true Artificial General Intelligence (AGI) or Artificial Super Intelligence (ASI) yet. However, we may be at a point that’s very close.
>The Tribulation begins, reaches the 3.5-year mark, and all prophecies related to mid-Tribulation are fulfilled.
>The false prophet installs an “image” (a huge screen or computer) outside the Third Temple with an image of the beast.
>The beast and false prophet claim they’ve achieved AGI / ASI , and the image is its manifestation.
>The image can think on its own, make decisions and have fluent and intelligent conversations and act on behalf of the actual beast.
>The whole world marvels, already in awe of the beast; this isn’t magic like making things disappear or bringing down fire; it’s a technological “miracle”. The whole world celebrates that we’ve achieved a major milestone in AI.
Of course, it is quite possible that the image is a literal idol, which is “given breath” by the false prophet and therefore talks. However, I think the image being an AI is most likely. Trump and Elon may also the beast and the false prophet btw. Head wound that appears to be survived by a miracle kek. Neuralink/merging with LLMs/biometrics as the mark of the beast??

No. 2510714

>>2510703
i don't wanna encourage your schizophrenia but a friend works in AI and i have literally made the comparison to 'this feels a lot like wizards summoning demons to complete tasks in a very monkey's-paw-your-wish-never-completely-fulfills-you kind of way' and then they laughed about it and said 'yes that's basically what i do all day'.

the people who think you can put a rein on AI and just make it do what you want have no idea how this stuff works but also the people putting AIs in robots can't explain to you how it works either. 'sometimes it just does that and we don't know why' is either funny or horrifying depending on who hears it.

No. 2510727

>>2510714
Yeah it’s like the AI somehow converts your words/text prompts into numbers and does some weird abstract math no one can explain to figure out the closest numbers to it and pull from clusters of data/information the associated information and predict what comes next like some weird demonic future reading numerology. I’m not schizophrenic im just a christian who likes to imagine the world is half scifi so take me with a grain of salt, unless you think every religious person in the world is a bit schizo kek. But the most evil person I’ve ever met (literal molester sociopath) worked in AI at one of the biggest companies in the world and he talked a lot about how much he hated christianity and jesus for the harm they did to society and that AI would fix the world, and he actively practiced weird kabbalistic number circle type shit. Idk the whole thing really creeps me out. I feel like these people are either messing with demonic forces or pretending to for some reason, and if you’re pretending to do it then you’re basically just doing it because evil obviously truly exists. Maybe I am schizo kek

No. 2510732

>>2510727
>every religious person in the world is a bit schizo

y'all do literally tell your children there's a big eye in the sky [paraphrasing for humor's sake] watching your every move just in case you do something it doesn't like.

No. 2510736

>>2510732
not me i don’t have any children kek

No. 2510877

>>2510228
So we're using tabloids as sources now huh. Anyone have a less sensationalized, reliable source? Not saying I discount it entirely, but I want facts rather than emotionally charged and dramatic phrasing meant to elicit the most horror when it's already a horrifying prospect on its own.

No. 2510988

>>2510404
I love them but I'm only at Wave 2. I believe One-Month Patterning helped me find a nice room to rent.

No. 2511427

>>2510703
I appreciate the effort you put into this post nonna but I don't think AI can be the antichrist because it doesn't have an identity, thoughts, or intent. It's just a shitty tool moids invented that doesn't do much of anything useful. If AI was related to the antichrist the antichrist would probably be whoever is 'behind' the AI or invented it, not the AI itself, which is just a dumb random word generator.
>No one has managed to create true Artificial General Intelligence (AGI) or Artificial Super Intelligence (ASI) yet. However, we may be at a point that’s very close.
We're not, and imo it's not possible. We have no idea how consciousness/sentience/thinking works, so there is no way to replicate it in machines.

>>2510714
People 'dont know how it works' because it's coded on huge amounts of data, not because it has a mind of its own.

>>2510727
Those are just Rationalists nonna and they're incurably autistic and retarded. They are evil yes but not nearly as smart as they think they are.

>>2510877
NTA but "reliable" sources are mostly or entirely government and big-business controlled, of course they don't want to report on shit like this. The Daily Mail despite being well known as a retarded tabloid has also done most of the useful reporting in the UK on the troon issue because other than occasionally the Spectator no 'reliable' news source will touch that shit with a 10 foot pole. The BBC literally has a pedo statue in front of their building that they spent a cool half mil restoring last year. Why even post in the tinfoil thread if you need mainstream media sources to verify something for you? They never will, their entire purpose is propaganda.

No. 2512081

I think the owner of Ovarit was paid to shut it down

No. 2512849

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I don't believe in the illuminati but….why did so many celebs cover their eye?

No. 2512861

>>2512081
Not possible because nothing radfems do or say is a real threat to the status quo

No. 2512873

>>2512861
What groups are actually a thread to the status quo in your opinion? Not that I disagree with you, even if I am a radfem myself, things are too bleak

No. 2512875

>>2512873
That’s a good question, maybe people they try to debank. The reason I said that is because radfems still believe that men can be saved with proper socialization, which is the more palatable pill as opposed to the biological argument, which men are categorically against. Also more broadly most leftist movements get subverted from within.

No. 2512884

>>2512875
>The reason I said that is because radfems still believe that men can be saved with proper socialization, which is the more palatable pill as opposed to the biological argument, which men are categorically against.
I would argue that women with nigels that call themselves radfem or those who trust in "proper male socialisation" are in fact not radfems at all, as much as they insist on calling themselves that. Opening that debate here would be unrelated to tinfoil matters so I'll just say that I agree overall that socialising males is useless and futile. Any specific leftist group in mind?

No. 2512895

>>2512884
Yep you are 100% on that. I guess off the top of my head occupy wall st got eaten pretty hard, and just in general the CIA was very involved in leftist movements in the 60s/70s and even funded some of them too. You sort of put me on the spot here lol, it’s easier to talk about who’s not a threat than who is. Like they love to do these performative arrests, make examples out of people, but those people are nobodies- such as the Australian govts proposed list of ‘people to watch’ (people who disagreed with corona narrative). Which sounded spooky but also would have been a bunch of Facebook mothers in practice.

No. 2512956

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Economic inflation and the recession are tools of genocide to clear the society out of people who can't work for corpos, be soldiers or contribute to the oligarchy otherwise.
They need to give bare-bone benefits so that people on them die and less wellfare paid to everyone else, which can be spent on more wars, which are, coincidentally, very good for economy, just not for the average person.
Coincidentally, money is completely fake, because it doesn't make much sense why billionaires would keep accumulating it and using it so poorly, their real power is in how many people they can make work or fight for them with their resources, that's why they orchestrated conditions under which people "useless" to them would die out. We have too long of lifespans and seemingly ok medical care to support the elderly and the disabled, but since they contribute "nothing" to society, the elites are looking for ways to wipe them out.

No. 2513056

Almost every instance of (support for) transgenderism in popular media is intentionally allowed by the powers that be, or a direct result of them wanting to bring back the status quo they benefit from. The way it works is that they've tangled up transgenderism in the general 'progressive' box with things like LGB, feminism, racial equality, etc. in order for all of transgenderism's flaws to be confused with those movements as well.
Both of the results are positive. A: People, not wanting to bring down the other movements, support transgenderism, ironically hurting the people the other movements want rights for and being annoying enough that B: other people notice and work against transgenderism, still bringing down the other movements because any criticism of the ideology is seen as criticism of progressiveness as a whole.
This also applies to non-gendie 'progressive' support in popular media, unfortunately. Think a meaningless, controversial racebend, a shallow gurlpower moment or male-gazey lesbian sex in a film. They're pushed often enough for A: people to jerk off over how inklushive they are, fueling B: other people who will get annoyed by it and associate the movements with their depictions in the media.

No. 2513059

>>2512849
Dumb trend/popular pose like people doing the peace sign or ahegao among zoomers. Why would a so called elite organization be having its members doing signals in plain sight? I'm sure a few celebs did it to be edgy and make people wonder but it's not even the Illuminati people have to worry about, all that was a red herring to distract people from the real elites behind the scenes doing fucked up shit with the greys and archons and what have you.

No. 2513061

>>2512956
Not even tinfoil to me, I buy it. Too bad these galaxy brains are going to wipe themselves out in the process. They're blinded by greed and arrogance.

No. 2513065

>>2512956
>>2513061
pretty sure covid was their attempt of doing it but it backfired when it killed mostly males and people who are sedentary/have heart issues (most moids in society, ironically lmao) instead of just old and disabled people.

No. 2513080

>>2512956
Anon, with all due respect, I agree with you in the grand scheme but not the finer details. “They” do not want depopulation. They are freaking out about muh birth rates right now. They do not want die offs. Nothing in the elites plans involves having less people. Peasants never had more bargaining power than after the Black Death. They want more people, ever more, they want life to be worth less and less and for you to be super replaceable. They want the Amazon to look like Cairo. They want human biomass stacked on top of biomass.

No. 2513084

>>2510703
I think you’re right. Also it says that all men must have the mark of the beast number in their hand to buy or sell anything. And I think it’s related to the beast with seven heads somehow (I think the way it ‘regenerates’ answers).

No. 2513092

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>>2512849
christianity-satanism thing, celebrities are all false idols who spread degeneracy among the masses and deliberately try to lead as many people as possible into the gates of hell and the punishment for that is having the left eye gouged out, amongst others

No. 2513118

>>2513080
There are different factions of elites. The globalists are the ones that want to replace everybody in western countries with third worlders. There are smaller factions that oppose this either by wanting fewer people overall or by wanting infinite population increase but for whites only.

No. 2513150

Trump admin is shutting down the dangerous gain of function research that led to the pandemic.
They've also shut down Fauci's beagle torture labs.

No. 2513256

>>2513080
Did you read my post proper? My idea is that they're purposefully killing off disabled and elderly.
Of course they want more people. To work and fight wars for them. They're just killing off those who can't benefit them.

No. 2513292

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>>2513092
>try to lead as many people as possible into the gates of hell
Who belongs in hell more than a waste of space who would want to try such a thing? It is truly a perfect system

No. 2513319

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>>2513292
samefag these are the types who believe they can create contracts that apply to the underworld, the same as the material world. People who engage in rituals love believing that god is a machine on autopilot, who sees everything in black and white when the complete opposite is true ("I know your works" = context). There's abdication for "darkness to light" - but it has to be the intention in the first place. If you can imagine a life review in a literal sense, plausible deniability goes out the window when you're bombastically ushering souls through the gates of hell with your shitty autotune music, so you can get in good with the slaves down there (demons) >>2513092 It's kind of hard to say "yeah I didn't mean it" in a situation like that kek

No. 2513329

I genuinely believe Russia is behind 90% of modern western psyops. I strongly believe they fund both the insane commie lefty tranny movements and stuff like BLM, as well as the Nazi/right wing movement/manosphere shit. It's more and more obvious seeing how most lefty tankies and right wing shills are both incredibly pro Russia. They want the West as divided as possible and at each other's throats, while uniting Russians as much as possible to all come together and worship Putin.
Russians dont have an identity besides seething at Americans and Anglos.

No. 2513331

>>2513056
The transgender shit is clearly a Russian psyop. If you go on those sissy/gooner subreddits you'll notice 90% of those edits feature some Russian bimbo or Russian porn actress and weird text that's often gramatically inaccurate and clearly made by some ESL. Making and distributing porn is banned in Russia but they have no problem encouraging and weaponizing it against the West.

No. 2513339

>>2513329
It was found during the BLM hysteria mass facebook sockpuppet accounts were being created from Russian IPs. Russians were literally impersonating black people and spamming likes, comments, and fake stories to BLM related content on social media. This has been a thing since the cold war. Soviets used the 'America lynches black people' whataboutism to try and encourage African Americans to side with communist movements and turn them against the American government.

No. 2513355

>>2513329
As a russian, I'd say that this is entirely possible.
Our people were ground down to essentially nothing with our opinions. And most people are huffing copium, trying to justify their complete dehumanisation by seeking an enemy, which in mass media is very evident, by government propaganda always bleating about some type of foreign degeneracy or the other, to make the miserable people of this country still see themselves as superior to something else, give us an illusion of superiority and humanity.

Also, as someone who interacts with russian social media daily, the bots are insane. We're getting blasted even under inconsequential posts, so I am sure, everyone outside of Russia is also feeling the effects.
They perfected propaganda tactics in USSR, and now the social media is the perfect tool to apply this.

I hate it here. As everything that the government hates. But it's also basically the truth. Common russian citizens get blasted by misinformation and propaganda daily. And get severely punished if they act out or even try to think for themselves. So I'd imagine the same tactics are commonly used by the same bots and paid actors even overseas.

No. 2513362

I think that Jojo Siwa was paid to pretend to be a lesbian, to embrace a more masculine style, and then publicly humiliate herself/all lesbians by going on that show and cheating on her girlfriend, and then to feminize herself while chasing after the male. It's all lesbian conversion tactics, pressure for all young lesbians. They are manipulating the average person to never believe in lesbianism as real, and for males to continue to up the pressure to try to force them into bed with them.

No. 2513367

>>2513362
She's spent every moment of her life groveling and humiliating herself for money (thanks mom) so even if it's not technically true which it probably is her sense of identity would be as transitory as a fake/paid for one anyways. This backfired hard on billie eilish, who actually had fans so I don't see it going well for her either

No. 2513384

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>>2513329
>>2513339
I'm going to drop this here. Not a tinfoil anymore, girls. It's basically in their Geopolitical playbook right here:

>Russia should use its special services within the borders of the United States and Canada to fuel instability and separatism against neoliberal globalist Western hegemony, such as, for instance, provoke "Afro-American racists" to create severe backlash against the rotten political state of affairs in the current present-day system of the United States and Canada. Russia should "introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social, and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements – extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics".[9]


Not hard to notice a lot of the bullshit going on globally was according to plan.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics

No. 2513385

>>2513362
I hope she spends the rest of her career miserable, sucking up to moids. I have no empathy for fakebians.

No. 2513394

>>2513384
Very interesting, thank you nona. Amazing how divide and conquer never goes out of fashion.

No. 2513400

>>2513362
I agree nona. Men have a raging hateboner for lesbians.

No. 2513410

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>>2513362
Shit like this makes me think you're right. Moids are deeply threatened by the existence of lesbian women.

No. 2513412

>>2513391
>America isnt fundamentally a racist country
I used to believe this too, I'm a minority and my working life is fucking insane because people refuse to accept that i'm competent and non-white. no russian shilling is needed there but i do wonder what causes people to become psychos at work. I want to believe it could all be scapegoated onto Russia but sadly nona people really are that dumb

No. 2513417

>>2513412
Not true. No other country offers scholarships purely based on someone being black or Injun or some other minority. There are plenty of black judges, lawyers, doctors and other high status occupations.

No. 2513439

>>2513329
>I genuinely believe Russia is behind 90% of modern western psyops
This isn't a theory, it's known reality. China also does it. I don't blame China or Russia, the CIA, MI6, Mossad, DVD et all have been using the exact same tactics for decades on a global scale. If the western elites weren't running their own countries into the ground, there would be less division and political tensions for Russia and China to exploit. Nuclear weapons reduced the threat of wars fought by soldiers with weapons because of the potential for mutually assured destruction, instead intelligence agencies just fight against each other trying to subvert the population of the opposing side.

No. 2513442

>>2513329
Off topic, but before the Ukraine war and Russian news channels got banned here in the EU, there was one called RT (Russia Today) which was notable because in the 2010s it had a large viewership of both hardcore lefties and hardcore right wingers. I always thought it was weird how it somehow managed to appeal to both groups equally. My dad who used to be a normal leftist became insanely pro Russia after he started watching it.

No. 2513796

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My crazy tinfoil is that celebrities aren't nearly as degenerate as conspiracy tards like myself want to believe and they don't have to participate in satanic rituals or do horrific things like pedophilia to "join". I think when clusters of males in the industry form these unholy alliances, they're almost always caught, become too ugly to be famous (by whatever form of "karma" you believe in) or excluded from groups with real power, who don't want to be associated with creepy losers. Actual celebrities like meryl streep, tom hanks isaac kaapy was an off-putting drug addict in a band with tom from vanderpump rules and not a credible a-list star and even nicole kidman are probably very typical boomers. At a certain point in the 90s, kris jenner had social climbed enough to reach the "nice rich people" level and was promptly ousted after her ex-husband became famous for defending oj. I think many of the males are independently degenerate and some may have pick-me/ghislaine wives who look the other way or help them amass victims but the vast majority of female celebrities are just as egotistical as their male counterparts (if not more) and want to be the main focus in the relationship. Even pedo-baiter ariana grande wants to be the little girl, not coerce her fans into following her path. I also think the jewish community is highly moralistic in an offensive way and gets by just fine observing what people are interested in and then selling that to them with good accounting and legal skills. So without the need to sacrifice babies or cast magical spells. This is why the people who come forward, can only ever point to low level execs and their own lack of talent for not "making it" in hollywood. I think famous people are extremely protective of their image and most would rather live boring lives in praise and luxurious comfort than risk it all to sacrifice animals or diddle kids

No. 2513822

>>2513796
This post glows.

No. 2513826

>>2513796
They don't need to sacrifice children to Satan, they're already rich like what purpose would it serve?

No. 2513836

>>2513796
I have worked for a celebrity talent agency before. All I'll say is that Hollywood, the music industry, and everything else media related, are extremely hard to break into. Like almost impossibly hard. Becoming a celebrity is basically like winning a jackpot, the odds are so low. For every one shitty Hollywood actor or talentless actress, there's 10,000 failed actors and actresses who were objectively more talented but never made it.

Same goes for music and every other sect of showbiz. There are thousands and thousands of singers and bands with a great demo, who will never ever be famous because they didn't kn ow how to market themselves. This even applies to porn btw. It's not the most attractive pornstars who become the most famous…there are thousands and thousands of incredibly beautiful women with perfect bodies, but they never become popular or well known among coomers. Look at the top 'OF earners'…they're all celebrities and signed to top media agencies. That's not a coincidence. The whole thing is basically a money laundering racket. All of those top influencers, streamers, pornstars, youtubers, are signed to marketing agencies who do nonstop promo, botting and money laundering for them. That one influencer Lujan, the military whore who is famous among coomers, accidentally posted her team's email recently on one of her stories. She's literally signed to a top marketing agency with a personal team who script her videos for her, tell her what memes to post to get most engagement, film and edit her thirst traps for her, etc etc. Almost all streamers will admit to this too: there was a scandal where a particular editor for all these famous twitch girls such as Emiru and Pokimane was hoarding and selling their videos and pictures on the side without consent and making deepfake porn of them.

The casting couch is absolutely real. Harvey Weinstein proved that. He had all these gorgeous actresses doing sexual favors for him in return for roles. Weinstein was a pervert and a rapist, but he was also a damn good producer. And now that he's gone, Hollywood has fully gone to shit. Almost every single one of these popstars, actors, porn girls etc has to sleep with well connected industry insiders and producers in order to make it. Same goes for all these youtube and twitch streamers. Notice how they all end up moving to LA or Austin? That's because that's where their techbro sugardaddies live. Notice how all those male streamers become more depressive, doing weirder and weirder shit on stream, fighting with other people all the time. It's because they know they are bitchboys who have to get assfucked in order to make it. The Diddy stuff was just the tip of the iceberg.

I can't tell you if the satanism shit is real, the baby raping shit is real, but I can guarantee you pretty much every famous or e-famous person you can think of had to give up their ass to some powerful producer or CEO in order to make it. That's just how it is.

No. 2513837

>>2513826
Well clearly mutilating chickens is going well for azalea banks. I know the first thing people want to know, is "who is azalea banks" when they hear about her so it's obviously working

No. 2513842

>>2513837
The voodoo thing never made sense to me. Haiti has the most voodoo practitioners in the world, and their country is a poor and destitute shithole where everyone is suffering. If voodoo actually worked then their lives would be much better, no?

No. 2513849

>>2513844
hollywood is basically made up of hideous but wealthy incels and b eautiful but dumb as rocks women. its a given that sexual exploitation, gay for pay and career prostitution is going to be a thing in such a superficial industry. its not just hollywood either. a top ballerina at the bolshoi in russia basically admitted that the theater was a brothel for wealthy businessmen. same with modelling agencies. so many of these models become worn out, age faster than their years, develop drug and alcohol problems, all to deal with the trauma of having to fuck sleazy old moid agents, celebrities and photographers to get a gig or shoot. the reason all these celebrity moids are all druggies too is obviously because theyre gay and raped.

No. 2513850

>>2513836
I'm not arguing with the casting couch or sleeping to the top nona. This is a great post but I disagree that they've all done it, since we know of celebrities who were offered less work after confronting horny weinstein. Mira sorvino is one of them but I think hollywood has a lot of sex bc there are a lot of attractive, desperate and powerful people there. Just makes sense
>>2513842
Well that is where a tinfoiler would bring up all the interest in adoptions from haiti and jon of god and all that. There's a lot of mud in the water but I think the truth is pretty self evident when it comes to voodoo/hoodoo and other ritualistic practices

No. 2513857

>>2513836
XQC is looking increasingly gay and raped these days.

No. 2513859

>>2513849
People used to laugh about concepts like the 'gay mafia' but it's absolutely real. Sugarbabying, pedophilia and fucking old men for career advancements is a mainstay in the gay moid world. Even Epstein made his fortune from gay sex with closeted billionaires and then extorting millions of dollars from them.

No. 2513872

>>2513859
Nta but you're absolutely correct and this completely matches my anecdotal experience that the (boomer) gay moids are the most degenerate as well, plenty of normie older gay moids complain about this too. I think it was a toxic mix of being harshly bullied, closeted or discriminated during their formative years and then unnaturally uplifted for such a long period of time after, that they feel like they're above legal and moral/human standards. The straight ones have seen enough weinsteins to keep their hands relatively clean, at least within their own countries. Harvey levin is a great example of an older gay moid who knows how hellish life can become if he gives in to the underbelly stuff. If you look at the most disgusting media out there today, it's almost always written by one of them. Nip/tuck was written by a gay moid, same with ryan murphy's snuff porn collection and incest fantasies, that he puts on tv and gets paid millions of dollars for. Their largest audience share are women and teenage girls though, so can't blame the moids for everything

No. 2513947

>>2513329
After the 2016 election, many famous and popular SJW Tumblr accounts got busted for being Russian chaos agents. This isn't a conspiracy, this is literally true.

No. 2514073

>>2513355
You’re so cucked you won’t even capitalize your own nationality. Embarrassing.

No. 2514076

>>2513329
No offense but this has been the opinion of like every western media outlet since 2016, it’s very much the party line.

No. 2514086

>>2514076
Yeah, it's just reality. Russia spends more time, energy, and money trying to destabilize the USA than it spends on taking care of its own people, in the exact same way that the USA spends more time, energy, and money trying to destabilize Russia than it spends on taking care of its own people. The USA and Russia are so gay for each other and that's why we need the Ottoman Empire to come back.

No. 2514203

>>2514073
And what exactly do you do, wheneven speaking out online can land you in prison? When shit was better, I protested, I fought, but now everyone is scared and huffing copium, because even people who fought got brainwashed.
I sometimes have ideas on what I can do alone, but I'm sure as hell not even ending up on the news to make waves for it among those who still care. And I sure as hell can't leave, because none of my loved ones can. We're all cucked, the entire world is getting cucked by Russia. And unless some very high-up people die, nothing would change. Even then it probably won't, because the entire government deserves the rope and starting completely over, even on the city level.
Also I am obviously ESL and not capitalizing it is normal here, lmao.

No. 2514447

>>2513796
I think you're right, anon. I've yet to see any proof whatsoever of most of the most ludicrous claims people make. And celeb followers are mostly pretty dumb and use stuff like CDAN as a source, they're not trustworthy.

No. 2514449

>>2513329
I actually think Russian bots pale in comparison to the USAID/Soros/NGO network.

No. 2514807

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>the COVID vaccine almost killed me
>I kept getting shots anyway!!
>I also got COVID anyway and COVID almost killed me too!!
>But me not dying from a virus that had a 99%+ survival rate was proof it worked!!!
Does the vaccine have a side effect of retardation?

No. 2514858

>>2513329
>>2513339
>>2513384
And to think there are Kremlinbots in lolcow trying to deny this so vehemently. They don't know how to be subtle when denying this indisputable truth

No. 2514863

>>2514807
The flu shot still gets me every now and then so I don't think it's crazy to say that a covid shot could pack a punch.

I think the only reason the covid shot didn't make me feel like shit is because I went to a kpop concert in January of 2020 and came back home with a week long fever(it was probably covid)

No. 2514866

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Chat is this real

No. 2514868

>>2514866
I feel uncomfortable knowing Fed scrotes are getting paid to watch child porn. Only female agents should do that job since men are incapable of separating their own dicks from serious crimes like this.

No. 2514869

>>2514866
if you type gullible in the email field your post will have glitter on it.

No. 2514886

>>2514863
Doesn't it seem strange to you how people who never get flu shots rarely get the flu, yet everyone who gets a flu shot seems to get the flu and the same is happening with the COVID vaccine?

My entire family is unvaccinated. Yes my entire family except my step grandma and my husbands side. My family has gotten COVID once. Was nothing more than a cold. You know who keeps getting yearly COVID though? My husband's vaccinated side. You know who's always in the hospital? My husband's family. Who had "long COVID"? You'll never guess who. Even vaccinated people can't even admit to themselves that the vaccine did fuck all its bizarre

No. 2514891

>>2514868
Without giving much info, I had a job that involved shutting down and tracing CP. I could only do it for a couple of months because of how badly it traumatized me and I ended up having to go on medication because it would give me night terrors. At some point I would just cover up the images on my screen with post it notes. Despite traumatizing myself to protect children, I still get accused of being a pedophile for "going on those sites in the first place"

No. 2514894

>>2514892
>You're all gonna die soon because you didn't get vaccinated for a cold with a 99% survival rate that nobody even catches anymore!!
The party that told you to ignore the evidence of your eyes and ears was their final and most important command

Nevermind the fact countries that were the first ones to be 90%+ vaccinated still had the highest COVID and death rates, but sure it's unvaccinated people ready to drop any minute lmao

No. 2514909

>>2514891
I agree and I'm sorry you went through that nona, but some women are very stoical and could probably do that job without getting too emotionally affected by it. You simply cant trust scrotes not to get off to this stuff.

No. 2514913

>>2514886
Not to me. I get flu shots every year and never catch it. I caught covid only once.

No. 2514926

>>2514913
It was either posted in this thread but it's been shown people who get the yearly flu shot actually catch the flu more on average

No. 2514929

>>2514926
And the people who catch the flu unvacc'd die so I'd rather take a shot and get the sniffles, than play russian roulette every time i go outside.

No. 2514931

>>2514916
I don't like trump but a broken clock is right twice a day and I'm glad he's calling for investigations and taking the COVID vaccine off the market. Now it feels like the only shillers are the people who want COVID to go on forever because they LOVE hyping themselves up as "great at following the rules, pro science, and saving lives" because they think they're mother Teresa for getting a vaccine that doesn't work and ordering doordash, the other shillers are the ones who want to use COVID as a scapegoat for being shitty towards friends and family

No. 2514933

>>2514913
I have never gotten the flu once in my entire life and I've gotten the vaccination every single year I've been of age to get it. Sounds fake as fuck to me.

No. 2514934

>>2514929
Girl no they don't. I worked in hospitals since I was 16 and never in my entire life have I seen a single person die of flu, most people don't even get the flu shot anyway. Take your fear mongering and leave

No. 2514944

>>2514934
Nta but damn, that must mean that it never happens ever if one rando worker in a few hospitals hasn't personally seen it. In my opinion, bone cancer is also fake because I've never seen it either.

No. 2514951

>>2514944
Except majority of people don't get the flu shot, a lot of people get the flu, so where is everyone dropping dead? Where are your statistics showing majority of flu deaths are from unvaccinated?

No. 2514954

>>2514951
Where are your studies that prove bone cancer is real? Never seen it myself so it can't be, and my inner world and beliefs are never wrong because I am the citadel of the universe. Proof? Proof? Studies?

No. 2514956

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>>2514951
The same place you get your statistics

No. 2514967

>>2514954
So saying 1 vaccine isn't effective is just like saying bone cancer isn't real? Seriously?

No. 2514968

>>2514967
Do fat people think they don't have toes just because they can't see them?

No. 2514975

Flu vaccine is just a wate of your money if you don't have serious comorbidities, somebody is really enjoying the money you pay for your fear.

No. 2514979

>>2514975
The flu vaccine is free nonnie

No. 2514983

>>2514979
Maybe where you're from, not where i'm from…even though it should be "free" meaning payed from a forced healh insurace slavery payment, but people need to pay for it extra.

No. 2514990

>>2514983
>payed
nevermind stay unvacc'd, let nature run its course.

No. 2514998

>>2514979
You know the saying, if the product is free, you're the product

No. 2515001

>>2514998
The free samples at kroger are turning me into a product….

No. 2515026

>>2514990
nonna flu just makes me lie in bed for 3 days, boohoo it’s no killer.

No. 2515089

>>2515026
>t. Person with no theory of mind.

No. 2515103

>>2513947
links/proof?

No. 2515112

>>2515089
>couldn't argue against the kroger free samples

No. 2515136

>>2514086
>that's why we need the Ottoman Empire to come back
I think we have enough rape and genocide as it is.

No. 2515257

>>2514934
>I worked in hospitals since I was 16
As a what though? And what service? ICU? Oncology? Pediatrics? Depending on the patient population, you're going to see more cases of the flu than your average med-surg unit with people getting admitted because they were retarded with their diabetes again

No. 2515323

>>2514926
pretty sure that's mixing up cause and correlation. people who catch the flu more clearly have compromised immune systems and probably live in group homes and such and thats why theyre given the flu vaxx in the first place

No. 2515328

>>2515323
The severity and mortality of the flu has also increased in correlation with flu vaccines becoming widely adopted.

No. 2515331

>>2515328
i doubt that. mortality is increasing because we have more old and sick people than ever because people are living longer than ever.

No. 2515332

>>2515103
Nta but I can vouch for what she's saying. If you were on Tumblr in the early to mid 10s, you'd be familiar with the Russian bot thing. It's not hard to find info about it online.

No. 2515337

>>2515331
like yeah, no shit the flu is going to kill a 95 year old or a 60 year old with compromised immune system easier than it will kill a healthy 30 year old

No. 2515346

>>2514929
What world are you living in where people who catch the flu die… that insane. Maybe if you're like 95 anyway, but at that point a cold breeze might kill you

>>2514975
This genuinely they make it based on the strain most prevalent form the previous year, so its basically useless by the year you get it.

No. 2515378

>>2515332
Oh well if Tumblr said so it obviously must be true

No. 2515383

>>2515112
Do you think the free samples are because Kroger loves you? They want you to buy something, anon. Similarly free vaccines aren't actually free, they want something from you.

No. 2515387

>>2515383
That might be why they give you samples, but it's different for me. Kroger does love me. Smith's and HEB too. I'm sorry it's not like that for you.

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No. 2515408

>>2515387
Kek
>>2515390
This is part of why I don't put a lot of stock inth the conspiracies though. 84 accounts isn't that many. It's like the media trying to claim Russians stole the election with $100k of Facebook ads. It's really small potatoes. The US government alone is easily doing 100x what Russia is and that's not counting random billionaires, Israel, or other subversive groups. But the media never wants to talk about those because Russia and China are the designated bad guys so they must be responsible for everything.

No. 2515410

>>2513394
>>2513417
>>2513412
>>2513384
>>2513355
>>2513339
>>2513331
>>2513329
>Apparently Americans are incapable of racism, it was the mean Russians manipulating them all along!

Have some agency for once

No. 2515416

Aaand the Russian shill has appeared

No. 2515417

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Here's an example of the kind of shit us government gets up to, a random air force base is the biggest userbase on reddit. An air force base that just happens to be a propoganda center for the united states government. And this was in the early days of reddit, clearly they got sloppy. It's likely far worse now.

No. 2515421

>>2515417
Holy shit.

No. 2515424

>>2515416
I don't mean to deny Russia and China are involved. But I think homegrown entities like George soros are a much bigger player. It's public information that he spends billions of dollars pushing divisive stuff through his network of ngos.

No. 2515444

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In case people aren't aware, it is common internet lore that the original push for social justice idealogy came about at occupy wall street. People were angry at bankers and were beginning to organize and become a threat, so the US government defused this anger by sending in agents to disrupt occupy meetings and turn them into race and gender discussions. People involved in the movement will often talk about the sudden change towards woke topics basically overnight.
Russia and China are involved in pushing this stuff because they know this it is divisive and toxic. But the original push for it was likely the CIA.

No. 2515457

>>2515424
And Elon was small potatoes? Get a new conspiracy theory

>>2515416
grow up

No. 2515459

>>2515444
oh so ignore all the real racism happening? This is why I've grown to hate leftists. They can't imagine that people can tactfully hate from their heart and it's a big plan from above. it's not like having regular non-moderated contact with the population didn't clue you into their thoughts

No. 2515494

>>2515459
In canada, people can't find jobs or places to live bc the government invited millions of people from india to come here in just a few years, who work on subsidized wages or under the table. We have tent cities in every small town and huge culture clashes, not to mention the conflicts they have brought here that have nothing to do with our government or (non-caste) systems. When canadians try to discuss it on places like reddit, their comments are removed even if they use inoffensive terms. I wish I had problems like fighting racism, that would be easy as fuck to deal with >>2515122

No. 2515502

>>2515424
>shifting all the blame to Soros
Okay Kremlina

No. 2515509

>>2515459
*can actually hate from their heart

>>2515494
Then direct your ire to the elites and not random people in the streets. I'm neither indian or white and I still get yelled at for trying live my life.I get it, Canada has gotten worse

No. 2515520

>>2515410
No one's saying that. They've exacerbated and stirring up divisions that were already present to an extreme degree. That's why it's so effective. I don't agree that it's all Russian/China bots alone but they definitely played a significant role in stirring up inflammatory division with misinformation.

No. 2515529

>>2515509
It's not about the colour of their skin anon, the issue is women's rights and I'm sure you're aware of those issues within india. It's possible more canadians would be aware of the actual issues they're dealing with, if the government didn't make these plans and execute them as covertly as possible while redirecting all their energy to outrage politics, like racism and trump tariffs. I don't know what kind of racial harmony you imagine when north americans are living under third world conditions, bc they no longer have a unified consensus

No. 2515542

>>2515494
I feel so bad for Canadian nonas. Your country has become unreconizable in the last 10 years, it's so sad. I've heard so many women say they won't even go out after 6pm in Toronto or Brampton, it's just too dangerous and there are too many rapey men around.

>>2515520
You're acting like white people didn't notice the aggressive 'fuck white people' rhetoric that was mainstream in academia, politics, media and movements like intersectional feminism since like 2010. Eventually when you shit on white people 24/7 in a majority white society, white people are gonna have enough and there will be backlash.
White people are mostly just tired of foreigners groping and harassing women and ploughing cars into Christmas markets, as well as the fact certain demographics are drastically more likely to commit violent crimes. Pointing out that black scrotes murder white people at a 10x higher rate than whites murder blacks is not racist.
Also, mass importing thirdies isn't done out of the goodness of governments hearts, it is done because the elites want a slave caste to rule over.

China and Russia are not fundamentally racist. The English speaking university classes in China are literally 95% Indians and Africans, and Russia has its own problems with Muslim terrorists and masses of violent and uneducated migrant workers (there was a recent case where a white Russian woman was gangraped in a car by Muslim men). Albeit China and Russia are admirable since they clamp down on terrorists and immigrant criminals far more strongly than the soft West does. But like I said, you are dumb if you think that racism becoming trendy again is just a psyop. White people are just tired of non-whites terrorising them in their own countries and every day there being some new scandal or horror story involving some gruesome murder or assault of a white person by a non-white, it's not any deeper than that. You cannot continually bite the hand that feeds you and then complain when nobody wants anything to do with you anymore.

No. 2515544

>>2515536
>China and Russia are not fundamentally racist. The English speaking university classes in China are literally 90% Indians and Africans
>China
>not racist
They want a slave class of "lessers" anon. The university thing is a smoke and mirrors tactic

No. 2515547

>>2515544
>They want a slave class of "lessers" anon.
And the west doesnt? The western governments literally want to replace the entire white working class. Keir Starmer just signed a contract with Modi India to mass import Indian moids as labor and effectively ban whites from those jobs.
Your point also doesnt make any sense since almost all of those foreign students return to their home countries after they graduate. China doesnt have to import cheap foreign labor they have an endless supply of homegrown cheap labor anyway. Despite a rising middle class, the average Chinese person still lives on like 5 bucks a day.

No. 2515551

>>2515542
Thank you

No. 2515560

>>2515542
Nobody sucks Muslim dick harder than Russia. It's literally illegal to shit-talk Muslims in Russia even online, you can go to jail for hooliganism or hate crimes just by saying you hate Islam or Muslims. There was an anti-Islam right wing group in Russia. Putin immediately sent all of the members to jail/'re-education camps', put curfews on the rest, banned them from organizing or even leaving their hometowns or the country. Neo Nazi groups are banned in Russia. It's always so wild to me how people think Russia is some wignat paradise and that they weren't diehard commies for a whole century and don't have close ties to Arab countries due to mutual hatred for America.

>Article 282 of the Russian Criminal Code prohibits incitement of hatred or enmity. ?>Article 214 addresses vandalism motivated by political, ideological, racial, ethnic, or religious hatred.

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And dont forget that Navalny (Putin's political rival who was eventually killed by him) was criticized by Putin and called a racist, Islamophobic, and a far right nationalist.

No. 2515572

Idk if anyone remembers this but like the sushi i think stores are secretly putting smaller versions of products when there's a sale. My coke zero feels light nowadays, and I only buy them on bogos.

No. 2515577

>>2515572
I noticed coke bottles have changed shape too at least in my country. They do indeed feel lighter. Shrinkflation is real and proven.

No. 2515581

>>2515577
they can hit my chips, and they can hit my california rolls, but my coke zero? I feel nauseous

No. 2515582

>>2515572
>>2515577
Can't you guys just check the ml? Or you're saying they're lying about the weight

No. 2515588

>>2515582
I checked and the ml hasn't changed but I can feel the difference in my hand when I hold the can. And it doesn't make me feel full like it used to. Somethings up.

No. 2515594

>>2515408
I think it's not the amount but the popularity of those accounts. I remember seeing a list and some of them were super popular activism blogs. One of them was some popular femanism blog and it was just basically just posting about "white femanism" and "this is NOT femanism, THIS is femanism" and making a bunch of confusion to sow division within movements so they become ineffective because they and up twisted around and fighting over inconsequential things like semantics. I gotta find the list…

No. 2515603

>>2515588
Idk maybe you've gotten stronger. Do you have a kitchen or gram scale? Weigh the empty can, tare it and then weigh a full can. The conspiracy will be solved

No. 2515608

>>2515594
I remember following a lot of radfem blogs and there were a bunch of Black, Asian and Muslim radfems (and also libfems) who would aggressively shit on white women and constantly call them evil. Any posts or replies by white feminists were met with 'shut up you privileged white bitch' or 'sit down and dont talk' or something similiar. Eventually the tumblr radfem movement became racially divided and then it pretty much died altogether because nobody could be bothered engaging with such unpleasant people.

I remember there were some very anti white mainstream tumblr blogs run by woc, like whitepeopleaintshit and senseiaishitemasu, where they spent more time shit-talking white women than shit-talking men and seemed to make hating white women their whole identity. Those blogs have now disappeared (probably taken down for hate content) but I remember how popular they were in the 2010s and their posts would often get thousands of notes and had so many self effacing grovelling whites saying 'Yes we're trash and we're sorry!'. I can completely understand how white women got tired of that movement real quick.

No. 2515609

>>2515608
so trve, we mvst save the white rac3 Nonna! those evil radfems and sjws are the real issue, let's find ugly white scrotes to breed with together!

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The fact that whites were supposed to swallow garbage like this and be guilt tripped over something they had no control over is so laughable kek. Gen Z and zoomies are so lucky they never had to deal with any of this insane white guilt nonsense that was so rabid before 2016.

No. 2515612

>>2515610
trvthnvke! everyone has seen this quote !

No. 2515613

>>2515609
What's ironic is all those woc feminists exclusively sucked white dick kek.

No. 2515615

>>2515613
so trve…..every single one of them!

No. 2515617

>>2514968
>Saying a vaccine that has multiple statistics proving it's not useful is just like saying toes don't exist or bone cancer doesn't exist
If you have to be this defensive about if a vaccine works well or not over having a mentally stable argument, it's because you know deep down it doesn't work well, but instead of just holding companies accountable for making a vaccine, you'd rather just sitting around sperging about fat people toes

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>>2515615
You can cope and seethe but its true. Nobody lifts ugly white moids balls harder than lefty WOC. No shit when you brainwash an entire movement into thinking White men are villains who rule the planet and control all the wealth, lefties end up thinking 'Hell yeah, I wanna get in on that. I want me some white privilege too'.

No. 2515623

>>2515620
I'm not involved in this retarded infight or whatever but God damn I never saw her husband before and that's one ugly ogre. He looks like a serial killer like John Wayne Gacey or something I don't know how people actually go near these monsters let alone marry them

No. 2515624

>>2515620
it's been proven that liberals engage in 'white flight' more than conservatives do.
https://www.city-journal.org/article/white-progressives-more-likely-to-flee-diverse-neighborhoods

No. 2515625

>>2515620
so freaking TRVKE. And I love your picture choice! We must go out and find the nearest white make to procreate with and do nothing else but yell at da POCs. We are hitlers top girls!!

No. 2515626

>>2515623
Leave her white kang alone nona. He's a beautiful vanilla gorilla ginger pumpkin spice latte, an ally of brown women everywhere.

No. 2515628

>>2515617
I know this demographic have netflix. This is from 2023 but how many documentaries were playing during covid about the opiate crisis, created and ignored by the same manufacturer as their flawless vaccine? I can't discuss covid bc there are too many things like this and it just feels like a big waste of time

No. 2515629

>>2515613
Can you blame them? The only non-white moids worth dating are East Asian. And unless you're in an area that has lots of them the best option for a non-abusive, non-cheating, non-pedo moid is white. I don't think it's about them wanting white privilege/worshipping white men/whatever, it's that theres simply a poor selection of quality non-white men

No. 2515634

>>2515628
Why cant Americans just like…not take opiates? I know a dude who was an opioid addict for years and he went cold turkey for like a week and then was sober permanently thereafter and swore to never touch them again. It's sad that people make so many excuses for themselves when they can literally get clean in a few days. I understand doctors push them to an extent, but many people take them for pain and dont become addicted long term.

No. 2515635

>>2515629
>thinking white moids are non-abusive, non-cheating, non-pedo
Kek.

No. 2515636

Online racists weren't racist enough I can only imagine a fat mexican guy typing all of this out.

No. 2515637

>thread develops into Russia and China criticism
>race-baiting retard derailment shills pop up
Lmao

No. 2515640

>>2515628
Europeans supposedly had better selections of the vaccine than what Americans are offered, but as we all know he AZ and J&J vaccine was a complete shit show, moderna is illegal in some areas, the best we supposedly had was Pfizer, which Pfizer has a long long history of being shady

No. 2515641

>>2515635
I'm laughing so hard. I know that nona is a genuine WOC because she has rose tinted glasses about white men due to either dating a very small pool of them, or not at all.
The non-pedo shit is so weird too. I mean it was literally proven that white men are more sexually attracted to children than non-white men, but go off and find your white prince charming sis.

No. 2515642

>>2515331
No, it's a strong correlation if you look up the cdc flu statistics over the past 30 years and compare them with the percent of population getting yearly flu vaccines. 30 years ago almost noone did that. I crunched the numbers myself and adjusted for population growth. By comparison the US population pyramid hasn't changed very much in 30 years, it's not like we have a japan situation. That could be intentional. Vaccines suppress innate immunity for a long time. IDK, maybe people don't need to know this, but I still think young people that have memed themselves into getting regular flu jabs are fucking retarded

No. 2515644

>>2515634
I genuinely think it's about the degree of trauma and their brain wiring after that. Some people can sort of snap out of things and other people are literally messed up from years of abuse or neglect and are literally in pain. I've tried painkillers many times and barely noticed a difference, it was like taking an aspirin. Alcohol on the other hand, takes me into an ethereal fairy world where I never want to leave and some people just get angry. So I think it's about brain chemistry, genetics, trauma, etc also not to race sperg but I have a lot of irish ancestry and wonder if they feel similar heightened euphoria/joy, since we have a reputation for loving booze and its effects

No. 2515645

>>2515635
Is that what I said? There absolutely are white moids who do that, there's just simply more "good" white moids than there are of any other race. It's more reasonable to ask women to choose quality men than to give up dating all together

No. 2515646

>>2515637
It's always the same stuff too. they have no new material, just vibes and ban evasion. I wish they would just stick to kf if they want to harp on the browns. im sure the "white" moids on there will greatly appreciate it, especially since their former top gal got banned.

No. 2515647

>>2515640
99% of people who took the vaxx didnt die. Those who died were mostly moids because men are predisposed to mysocarditis. Get over it. Covid was a shitshow but everyone with more than 2 brain cells got tired of your '2 more weeks' schizzing and Russian disinfo antivaxx shilling.

No. 2515649

>>2515645
>feminist woc nona cant even hide her white moid fetish
>pretends its about morals and that white men are more 'good'
Like I said, white men are more sexually attracted to kids than non-white men, but you do you. Nobody is stopping you securing your vanilla kang, just dont come crying when you find out he's a pedo.(racebait)

No. 2515650

>>2515647
??? I never claimed he vax killed people or anything you're claiming, I just simply claimed it doesn't work like what was shilled to us. And if you're upset the conspiracy thread is questioning the vaccine maybe you should take your own advice

No. 2515652

>>2515649
>white men are more sexually attracted to kids than non-white men,
What countries have the most child marriages? What countries produce and consume the most CP? What countries have the lowest ages of consent?
Hint - rarely is it white countries

No. 2515654

Hey none of this is conspiracy theories make a new thread or get on topic?

No. 2515655

>The best option for a non-abusive, non-cheating, non-pedo moid is white.
The way my eyes just rolled into the back of my head. White men just get off more easily for abuse and cheating and pedophilia, they don't do it any less. All men are predisposed to these things in equal measures, and you are a retard if you dont know that. I'm starting to think you are a white moid shilling yourself now.

No. 2515656

>>2515655
always has been

No. 2515658

>>2515654
Vaccine debates and Russian propaganda accusations are typically part of conspiracy theories, race sperging isn't. Also if anons comes to a conspiracy theory thread and get upset they see commonly believed conspiracy theories they're idiots

No. 2515659

>>2515652
Idk this is kind of refreshing in a similar way to the troon stuff. I think some anons are so obsessed with hating moids that we have to pretend they're the same. When these differences are addressed someone will just say that they would make it afghanistan if they could. But moids created north america so idgi, if anything it seems like lefties are most interested in turning the us/canada into these places, by allowing massive amounts of their (single, young, male) populations to enter at the same time and without proper vetting

No. 2515660

>>2515652
Arent like 70% of those wanted by interpol for child sex crimes white men? Lol. Also, most child sexual abuse is carried out by family members or close family friends, not strangers, and I've never met a single white woman who wasnt diddled by her white moid relatives before tbh.

No. 2515664

>>2515659
There's been endless cases of white men getting off with pedophilia and rape because they were white. There was some college kid who raped like 3 teenage girls and the judge let him off because he thought jail would 'ruin his potential' kek.

No. 2515665

>>2515655
So what is AOC supposed to do? Is she supposed to just deal with an abusive, cheating or pedo moid with 5 baby mamas just to prove she doesn't have a white guy fetish or something?

No. 2515666

>>2515659
>mass immigration is women's fault
Do you hear yourself, not even at my worst did I ever start spouting this. You're just regurgitate "you voted for this" retardation.

No. 2515667

>>2515664
Not to mention that Mr Swirl guy who raped hundreds of kids and served an absolutely laughably low sentence for it all.

No. 2515668

>>2515655
This is statistically wrong, but i will get banned if I post proof

No. 2515669

>>2515661
>>2515659
>lefties
Seriously what is wrong with you to attempt this degree of gaslighting when I just posted this?

No. 2515670

>>2515664
Most white men are bad, but the good men tend to be white. That's all

No. 2515672

>>2515668
Convictions dont equal guilt. White people almost always serve lower or no sentences for the same crimes.

No. 2515673

>>2515668
Why would you get banned for posting proof? If it's from some stupid meme, they're collecting the data from official stats somewhere

No. 2515674

White moid propaganda is vile. They lowered American women's IQ by 10s of points by mass killing the smart ones and you're licking their ass. Hate brown and black moids all you want but this is just degrading.

No. 2515676

>>2515660
You probably just know more white women. Also this is simply due to most of the population being white. I'm middle eastern and grew up in a Hispanic area and can tell you right now loads of brown women are constantly abused as children. In fact it's not even unusual for brown adult moids to impregnate literal teenagers or pre teens, even if the family is middle class or higher, where as in white folks pedophilia only seems to be rampant among the lower class

No. 2515677

>>2515670
>the good men tend to be white
Then why are the prettiest ones Asian?

No. 2515680

>>2515674
No one is stopping you from living in countries where there are very few white moids. I've noticed a coincidence that the safest countries seem to have the most of them but I am also a woman with a lower iq bc safe countries are notoriously difficult to receive an education, as a girl/woman

No. 2515681

>>2515542
I don't feel bad for Canadians one bit. They voted for this and were smug and insufferable about it the entire time. Let them reap the consequences of their actions.

No. 2515682

>>2515677
he's just going to cherrypick an ugly one and say they're all pedophiles.

No. 2515683

>>2515677
I said in my first post relating to this East Asian men would be the #1 choice, but if you don't live in an area with a lot of them the few decent men are typically white. And no spergers, this isn't saying all white men are angels. Just if we put together a group of moids who haven't beat, cheat, raped, etc, it won't be any surprise what color they are

No. 2515684

>>2515673
It's happened before.

No. 2515685

>>2515676
>where as in white folks pedophilia only seems to be rampant among the lower class
Are you lost?

No. 2515687

>>2515677
I dated an asian moid once and his mother was constantly screaming at him in the bg, all of the time

No. 2515689

>>2515680
Who said anything about moving to another country? Why are you so defensive towards men? We hate men here

No. 2515691

>>2515676
I think that brown and black men target teens, but to be honest when it comes to men raping babies or toddlers it almost always seems to be some white male. I think white men are more attracted to actual infants and prepubescent kids more than brown or black men are. The men sperging about how much they love 'legal loli' types who look and act like children are always white or asian moids, they seem to want women who look like actual kids, whereas brown and black men tend to prefer thicker and more developed girls with bigger boobs and butts. Just my observation. And while both are wrong and immoral, I dont think having sex with a 17 year old is as bad as having sex with an actual prepubescent child.

No. 2515692

>>2515680
>No one is stopping you from living in countries where there are very few white moids.
This. If white men are so terrible and get away so easily, why aren't anons moving to non-white countries if the men are so much safer?

No. 2515695

>>2515683
>in white places, good men tend to be white
No shit, Sherlock

No. 2515697

why is this white scrote in here racebaiting for the past hour

No. 2515698

>>2515637
No nonnie, it was totally Soros! He did it!

No. 2515699

>>2515689
I would be just as annoyed if anons insisted mcdonalds and burger king are the same thing, even tho they're both sloppy and bad for us. Call it autism nona

No. 2515700

>>2515647
The Pfizer jab increased all cause mortality by 36% compared to Moderna, unfortunately the study had no un-vaccinated control. That brings the Pfizer death-toll to half a million in the U.S., who knows about the total death toll from vaccine injuries. Sure, the mortality from covid would have exceeded that if noone got vaccinated but talk about low standards. Vaccines are so ineffective at preventing flu anyways, you could halve your chance of infection and lower the severity of illness just by taking high dose melatonin every day and have zero side effects.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10492612/

No. 2515701

>>2515692
Why should I move from where I was born just because I know white are also bad?

No. 2515702

>>2515691
>men raping babies or toddlers it almost always seems to be some white male.
Nope and nope. Nearly all the cases in the news like the baby Brianna case were Hispanic or black men, and those are just cases that made the news, nevermind how much it happens and it gets unreported. Also nearly all child sex trafficking is done by and for men of color in foreign countries

No. 2515704

>>2515691
I agree. Sophie Rain or some other thicker girl is usually for the Latino or Black male gaze. Whereas pedo panderers like Belle Delphine had an almost wholly white male audience, with some Asian men liking her too.

No. 2515705

>>2515697
I think he's that Spanish dude from a while ago, has the exact same arguments. It could also be that one mexican anon who posted her I.D a few months ago saying racist stuff about brown skin despite……being brown skinned. it was kinda funny

No. 2515706

>>2515687
cool
and my dad works at nintendo

No. 2515707

>>2515701
Yeah anon, it's cause you were born there. Not because we all know what would actually happen if you were surrounded by the "super safe, non-white men"

No. 2515710

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>>2515702
Idk when I google man who raped baby, it seems white moids make up the vast majority, with a couple brown/black men thrown in.

No. 2515711

>>2515707
what's that got to do with moving though. Doesn't change the fact white men are bad too.

No. 2515712

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>>2515691
>denying virgin cleansing myth
whooops

No. 2515713

>>2515687
Majority of my entire dating history is Asian men, their families can be kinda off but a lot of them cut connections after a while. The last Asian guy I dated was in the military though so luckily I never met his parents

No. 2515714

All men are ephebophiles and pedophiles to a degree. Patriarchy is a state of perpetual pederasty. It's the final blacpill.

No. 2515716

>>2515707
Literally nobody in this thread said non-white men are safe kek. We said all men are bad. But you cant stop caping for white moids, probably because you are one yourself.

No. 2515717

>>2515714
You're right blackpill nonny.

No. 2515718

>>2515710
That's because that's who the media writes article about. You're wrong statistically speaking.
>>2515664
It's not just white men, all the Muslim rape gangs in Britain got laughably low sentences.

No. 2515719

>>2515710
>Muh first pages
You realize they publish this stuff because it's unusual, right? A known pedo poc moid raping a toddler isn't news worthy, a police chief or something is

No. 2515720

>>2515710
All men are a potential threat don’t be fooled by what color they are or what culture they come from. Culture might amplify or attempt to suppress innate antisocial moid behaviors but they are always simmering there waiting to boil over at any moment.

No. 2515721

Sex selective abortions are the future. Nuke male fetuses or suffer the consequences.

No. 2515722

>>2515660
I dont wanna tie this to the white moid stuff but the only women I've know who were molested as children were all black.
>>2515710
Google images, the most accurate method of statistical analysis lol.. but no you would have to adjust this by population. What's the per capita

No. 2515723

>>2515716
Saying a certain group is less dangerous is just being aware. Not many women have the choice of not being around any men at all, but if we have to why not choose what's safer?

No. 2515724

>>2515713
>a lot of them cut connections after a while
Kek anon, way to announce you're a western siren luring their only child/son away from his duties in their elderly years
>>2515714
>a moid's interests
Not my problem in a free western society tho

No. 2515726

So there was a study done on men who committed sex offenses against minors, and it found that white men were more attracted to children than black or hispanic men. Any vanilla gorilla handmaidens wanna defend this?
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0886260516653550

>White offenders were more often classified as socially incompetent and sexually fixated on children when compared with Black offenders.

>Latino offenders were more often classified as high in social competence and sexually attracted to adults than Black offenders.

No. 2515729

>>2515723
what if we just killed pedophiles and made rape a death sentence…oh wait that would be too effective all around. Proceed with your Aryan fantasies

No. 2515731

State funded Guatemalan rapists

No. 2515732

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>>2515718
White men also engaged in the Rotherham rape gangs and were pimping their sisters and daughters out to pedos for money. The fact that white men didnt even bother defending their children from pedophilic monsters and even enabled it in many cases says it all.

No. 2515734

>>2515729
>kill pedophiles
Then you get dead kids (no evidence). People who have kidnapped kids will be the first to tell you that's a bad idea

No. 2515736

>>2515726
>vanilla gorilla
KEK never heard that one before

No. 2515738

>>2515732
Nta but they look russian or serbian or something

No. 2515739

>>2515734
>the dead kid defense
heh, you've fallen in my trap moid SCUM. Cut your dick off and die.

No. 2515740

>>2515738
>they look white or white
trve

No. 2515742

>>2515739
I have a child anon and her getting kidnapped is a material risk for me. So instead of fantasizing about how I would feel in that scenario, I have to have realistic thoughts and consider how human brains operate, that are male (high risk/impulsive)

No. 2515743

>>2515729
Why would I be against that? Villianizing someone on your side is not how you accomplish anything

No. 2515746

>>2515742
I have a kid too
and a dog and a husband and a big blue house and we all sing aryan folk tunes before bed.

No. 2515747

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>>2515742
samefag if you some kind of mass-sweep idea like picrel, I'm totally on board

No. 2515750

>>2515747
Holy reddit

No. 2515751

>>2515726
I am not defending men who rape teenagers at all, but I think if you broke down victim ages by those who are prepubescent and those who are post-pubescent, white men would make up the vast majority of those who abuse prepubescent girls.

I know that pedophilia is often based on opportunism ad availability, but it seems black and brown men really do have a strong preference for strong secondary sexual characteristics in women compared to white and asian men. The loli and child hentai and barely legal genre is huge among white and asian men, but even among westernized brown and black men who have the same access to such content, it doesnt seem to be anywhere near as popular. You can look at pornstars or OF girls who are most popular in the black and latin community and its almost always thick girls with huge tits and ass. Of course there are also plenty of white men who like huge tits and asses. I'm just saying that men who have a preference for very childish looking women or underage looking girls seem to be white or asian, 90% of the time. A woman being too skinny or small is generally seen as a negative trait in hispanic and black culture which is why BBLs and boob jobs and hip injections are so huge among latin and black women. Whereas a woman being as skinny frail and childish as possible is the beauty standards in asian and many white countries.

No. 2515753

>>2515738
>robert and mark evans
sounds about as bongish as it gets

No. 2515754

>>2515746
Stop shitting up the thread and go back to Tumblr

No. 2515756

>>2515750
Reddit would be saying something moid-coded like you have rancid pussy energy and I would never say that

No. 2515758

>>2515754
Why would I go back to tumblr?

No. 2515760

>>2515751
>Black and Latino coomers liking BBLs and bolt ons is proof they don't diddle kids!!
>But white moids are safer on average, those who do diddle, diddle kids
So - realistically a white moid who's attracted to womanly features would be a low risk option? I don't understand what's offensive about navigating what men to be safe around. I would absolutely love for all women to avoid men, but that's not realistic so teaching women how to pick safe men is the best option

No. 2515762

>>2515754
Echochamber moment, just because you like white moids doesn't mean I have to. I hate all moids and would kill my male infant if it somehow tricked me into thinking it was a girl.

We are not the same.

No. 2515763

>>2515758
You can't have a single debate without assuming everyone who questions you or anything is apparently a tradthot neo nazi. You've accused multiple anons of such even when nothing they said was related to race

No. 2515765

>>2515763
I haven't called anyone anything other than reddit, you're a schizo

No. 2515768

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>>2515760
There's some JAV star who is like 142cm and looks like a kid. As expected, almost all her fans are white moids or asian moids.

No. 2515769

>>2515762
>White moids have lowest crime rates, lowest DV, etc so it makes sense women are more likely to end up with a white moid if they are looking for safe partners
>>YOU'RE DEMANDING ME TO TAKE WHITE DICK YOU NEO NAZI
Reading comprehension

No. 2515770

>>2515769
lowest crime rates or lowest conviction rates? and btw thats not even true, asian men commit the least crimes by far.

No. 2515771

>>2515768
Just choose white men who like womanly women then? It's easier to spot a pedo sexually attracted to children than it is a pedo attracted to teenagers or someone who will commit DV against you

No. 2515772

>>2515768
don't post children you sick fuck

No. 2515773

>>2515768
>JAV
>Asian moid fans
no shit

No. 2515774

>>2515769
nobody said that, take your pills

No. 2515775

>>2515770
This is my third time repeating Asian men should be first choice, why do you keep ignoring that and insisting a bunch of bizarre accusations?

No. 2515776

>>2515772
shes 24 you mong. this is what your white kang jacks off to lol.

No. 2515777

>>2515775
Why can't we hate all men and not just the ones you won't schlick to every night?

No. 2515778

>>2515775
how about i want none of your scrotes, white asian brown black or any other?

No. 2515779

>>2515776
don't post pseudo child porn you sick fuck. Just looking at that made me nauseous

No. 2515783

>>2515771
I don't want to choose white men or Asian men or Hispanic men or black men or Indian men or literally Any Men.

No. 2515784

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>>2515768
she should do a video with Kohey Nishi

No. 2515785

>>2515769
As a nona who was molested as a child and later raped and abused in relationships with white moids, fuck off. There are no races of 'good men'.

No. 2515787

See, it's a moid? White lover anons come get your cp posting kang!

No. 2515788

>>2515785
She will probably say 'Omg I'm so jealous, you got raped by that BWC! GIWTWM! White moids FTW <3'

No. 2515789

Birdflu is going to be the next COVID, but with actual sever deaths. Lab whistle blowers have already spoken out.

No. 2515790

>>2515785
Oh and btw, my white abusers never served any jailtime either. Pretty easy to say the west is a safe haven for women, when rape carries a 2-3% conviction rate.

No. 2515791

>>2515777
You're free to do that. Other anons aren't going to suddenly decide that every country/society is equally shitty for women and girls for the sake of female unity on an imageboard. Since even the word "race" is too polarized for reactive anons, we'll just call it "culture clash" again. Some cultures clash with our own and have far more barbaric practices that are not only practiced by scrotes but openly accepted and enforced by women

No. 2515793

>>2515768
She doesnt look like a child she just looks like a midget to me. Looks like the face of a woman slapped onto a midgets body.

No. 2515794

>>2515791
Not touching a penis just because it's statistically associated with less crime, we don't owe white moids sex just for doing the bare minimum.I hate all men.

No. 2515795

>>2515791
Yes, in the west male violence against women is just called 'BDSM' and called healthy and hot, kek.

No. 2515798

>>2515794
White moids are obsessed with beating, choking, slapping, beating and raping mentally ill women but in America it's called 'kink' and it totally doesnt say anything about the man's character. Electrocuting women? Trying to drown or hang them? Beating them until they're black and blue? Cutting into their bodies? Just be a white man and call it your 'kink' and no jailtime for you.

No. 2515799

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>>2515795
So you're comparing bdsm to something like fgm? This is typically performed on little girls by a female aunt or even their own mother

No. 2515802

>>2515799
Apples and Oranges moment off the fucking walls. Sexual duty to a race of moids just because they don't cut our clits off is peak moidspeak. Get that dick out of your mouth!

No. 2515805

>>2515802
>Get that dick out of your mouth!
You (or another unhinged person) brought up voluntary heterosexual bdsm as if that was relative to anything and fgm is done to girls, by adult women without their consent. Last I checked we only alter males at birth for sexual pleasure but I'm sure as a master debater, you've predicted I would say this hours ago

No. 2515806

>>2515799
Oh you're that weirdo who constantly brings up FGM and black women getting their clits cut off. I think it's your fetish at this point.

No. 2515809

>>2515805
>voluntary BDSM
there's no such thing. BDSM is self harm by proxy and almost all the women who engage in it are too mentally ill to genuinely consent anyway. way to show your scrotum though.(scrotefoiling)

No. 2515810

>>2515806
No it's the first time I've brought it up on lolcow ever. If you don't have anything relevant to say, please don't post at all bc it shits up the thread

No. 2515812

>>2515809
>comparing bdsm to fgm
>scrotum
K

No. 2515813

>>2515810
You've ruined the thread with your white moid brainwashing.

No. 2515814

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>>2515652
>not my white nigel

No. 2515816

>>2515805
Your white husband will not find you in the lolcow.farm conspiracy theory thread. He's on X listening to Andrew Tate.

No. 2515817

>>2515799
FGM is some weird and archaic low IQ cultural 'hygiene' practice, from a culture that loves cutting off moids foreskins and womens labia. If it was purely patriarchal in nature then I doubt boys would be subjected to genital mutilation too, and it would also be practiced in every thirdie country, not just Africa. Is it a fetish? I doubt it because it's mostly performed by female relatives. It's just cultural brainwashing. But cutting womens clits off for sexual gratification is literally a fetish in Western and Japanese porn.

No. 2515819

>>2515816
The worst part of arguing with you is that you're not funny and everything you say is generic and boring. You could be 10 anons from tumblr/reddit and I wouldn't be able to tell the difference. It makes me feel alone in this world sometimes, thanks for that

No. 2515820

>>2515816
Real white men only listen to Adolf Hitler AI generated speeches.

No. 2515824

>>2515819
we're not arguing, I'm just wasting your time and backing you in a corner. Despite your efforts we still hate all men here.

No. 2515826

>>2515821
I would be on lc regardless of you being retarded or not. I'm not staying here to to listen to your edgy opinions, you're just making my experience less enjoyable while I visit

No. 2515829

>>2515826
>you're just making my experience less enjoyable while I visit
nobody has to do that for you

No. 2515831

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>this thread

No. 2515832

>>2515831
The small dog fears real man haters

No. 2515841

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>>2515829
Anons doing that ott reactive thing over minor conflicting opinions reminds me of picrel-moids. It's annoying. Nothing I'm saying is actually outrageous or incorrect and I don't gaf what moids in my country masturbate to, bc I can legally own a house in the woods or on the top of a fucking mountain to get away from them, if I want to. Some anons can purchase a gun and shoot one in the face if he makes her feel threatened on her property. There are countless options to not ever have to deal with scrotes in a western society again so I don't care or consider their inner thoughts, desires or feelings like you guys do. They can die alone wishing they had a child bride(/budding angry mother of 10 who hates them) while I continue ignoring them in my house, on my own property

No. 2515846

>>2515817
I've never even heard of this fetish, and I know plenty of weird shit. Are you trying to claim real practices people actually do are just as bad as things depicted in fantasy?

No. 2515850

>>2515817
>cutting off moids foreskins and womens labia
Why did you post these two ideas together as if they are similar?

No. 2515851

>>2515850
because it's a moid(scrotefoiling)

No. 2515852

>>2515846
>ive never heard of this fetish so it doesnt exist
i would say people who want to cut womens genitals up for their own sexual gratification are worse, yes

No. 2515853

>>2515850
Why are you pro baby genital mutilation?
>>2515851
Cope

No. 2515855

>>2515850
>americans think cutting off the most sensitive area of a baby's body is perfectly healthy and normal
>they look down on other cultures for being barbaric
kek. child mutilation is only ok when its government approved. no wonder tranny shit is so popular in the west too, women chopping their tits off is based when its a white idea right?

No. 2515856

>>2515851
Most fgm countries are uncircumsized anyways. They probably hate labia bc their ruffly foreskins get all tangled in everything

No. 2515858

>>2515853
You're doing that tumblr thing where you pull a completely different point out of something that was obviously not saying that. Le wokisme is you.

No. 2515859

>>2515855
Nobody said that though.

No. 2515860

>>2515760
>men who are attracted to childish and overly neotenous looking women with little to no curves are probably more likely to be pedos
>men who are attracted to strong secondary sexual characteristics are probably less likely to find children attractive
what part of this is so hard for you to understand?

No. 2515861

>>2515856
Not sure what you're talking about, 87% of Egyptian women and 94% of Egyptian males have genital mutilation.

No. 2515862

>>2515860
he understands he just wants to make sure we'll touch white penis instead of tyrones or abduls penis. very nasty

No. 2515866

>>2515768
this moid looks like a fatter version of my pedo ex and its giving me ptsd

No. 2515867

>>2515861
Idk in africa, males usually undergo a routine procedure to prevent communicable diseases (like AIDs) from spreading more than it does but it's most common in the north, where fgm is less prevalent. Idk a lot about routine medical procedures for males in egypt tho

No. 2515870

>>2515867
>males usually undergo a routine procedure to prevent communicable diseases (like AIDs) from spreading
Is it a full-on dick-ectomy? Because that's the only thing that will prevent it.

No. 2515876

>>2515494
The only sub that it’s not banned on is /r/canadahousing2 . It was created a few years ago because the original subreddit was censoring the Indian issue. I check there every few months to see if it’s finally been banned. Shocked it’s lasted this long so far.

No. 2515881

im so bored of the mutilated genitals rhetoric that comes up every 5 seconds. if you care so much then raise money and go build a refuge or hospital for girls in africa to escape the horrors of fgm. otherwise stfu and stop with your bleeding heart slacktivism where all you do is bitch and complain but never actually do shit irl.

No. 2515882

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>>2515870
>Male circumcision has been shown to reduce the risk of HIV transmission, particularly in sub-Saharan Africa, where it is a significant public health intervention. Studies have demonstrated that circumcision can decrease the risk of HIV acquisition by around 50-60% in men. This is because the foreskin may have a higher concentration of HIV target cells and may be more prone to microtears during sexual intercourse, according to The Open AIDS

No. 2515883

>>2515882
Interesting. I learned something new today.

No. 2515890

>>2515751
The secret is that men don’t actually have preferences and that they will have sex with anything given the opportunity. Be wary around them all. Don’t leave your child with any race of male.

No. 2515891

I didn't want to get into the race sperging cuz off topic etc but all I want to say is that these two posts are highly correlated. goodbye noonas
>>2515687
>>2515770

No. 2515896

>>2515891
No it's too much and makes them pussies. There's a reason japanese and korean women would rather be alone or pay for male prostitutes

No. 2515899

>>2515768
I’m this tall and I’ll tell you that men of all races have been into me specifically because I look like a child. They have no problem telling me this to my face as if it is some sort of compliment. This is why none of them are truly safe. I think it might just be more socially acceptable to admit it within asian and white male culture. Never leave your child or teenagers with any color or creed of scrote they will try to rape them if they think they can get away with it. Men have no trouble admitting that they are sexually attracted to youth and yes that means children too. Even if you’ve known said scrote your whole life do not leave your child with them. This shouldn’t even be a debate!

No. 2515904

>>2515899
Okay, so you think it's reasonable for anons to forbid their children from going to the park with their grandpa or having uncles? That will just make them look unhinged and alienate them from their families. Should they never take their children in cars as well, bc people die in accidents or the only mortal fear anons should have is diddling?

No. 2515908

>>2515560
Did you copy and paste this from somewhere

No. 2515913

>>2515904
It’s absolutely reasonable. Even the father might rape the children but it’s difficult to get rid of them. You don’t have to leave your young child alone with possibly rapist grandpa. Especially not the grandfather on the fathers side since you didn’t grow up with him and can’t determine if he’s actually safe. Remember that the rate of men committing sexual and homicidal crimes goes up in their 40s and 50s. Grandpa is absolutely a risk. No reason to leave them alone with a male in any circumstance unless it is absolutely unavoidable like not being able to get rid of the father. Children are actually raped by relatives more commonly because people assume that they are safe just because they are family. Do not fail your children due to the comforts of convenience.

No. 2515915

>>2515913
A lot of anons love(d) their grandpas and want their own children to have a relationship with their dads too. Usually there is a history of not being molested established during the first childhood and parents keep an eye open for obvious signs, like bed wetting and changes in personality

No. 2515917

>>2515891
being screamed at by your mom is a mainstay in all ethnic cultures lol. i think white moms dont scream at their sons enough and its why theyre spoiled entitled little shits.

No. 2515918

>>2515904
statistically, most child sexual abuse is committed by family, or 'family friends', the spouses of siblings, etc. often its the men we know who are the biggest danger to our children.

No. 2515919

>>2515915
Changes like that mean that the molestation already happened. Why risk it? Suddenly grandpa could decide that he wants to enact the pedo-bait porn he’s obsessed with in real life. Especially now because this pornography has become way more common even on the clearnet. Whole altchans dedicated to them! You can always go with grandpa to the park. Tagging along is the safest option. You can still have your child have a relationship with potentially pervy grandpa and other familial males without letting them have private access to the child. Letting men have private access to children is such a modern and dangerous idea. Young children used to be with their mothers nearly constantly and now it is criticized. It is because men want private access to the children without their mother around. I wonder why that could be?

No. 2515920

>>2515904
i feel like uncles are the most likely to sexually assault kids tbh. after stepdads. there was a study that found 1 in 5 women who were raised with a stepfather or moms boyfriend in the house had been sexually abused by him.

No. 2515921

>mods ban VPN
>site surprisingly becomes filled with even more bait
>now you have anons defending calling 5 year old autistic children names like nigger
>simping for white men like their life depends on it.
>Barely any moderation anymore, takes the moderator a whole day to respond to bait especially racebait but for not saging in celebricow they are there in 2 minutes…hmm

My tinfoil is that the admin downsized the number of their moderators (aka fired them) and now there is like one or two farmhands and jannies left in the whole site and this is why the moderation has become so slow and why they actually implemented a VPN ban because they thought it would help with their moderator shortage but as we can see looking at the state of multiple threads it didn't help at all.

Or another theory is that there was a moderator downsize + a current moderator or janitor that is still here is basically one of those racist agartha save evropa vril type of pickmes who themselves agree with the bait posted which is why so much of bait lately has not been getting banned at all.

No. 2515922

>>2515896
If you want a high functional society then you have to be a males surrogate superego so that he behaves like a civilized human being. They just don't have an innate instinct to be altruistic otherwise. This is what first world lifestyle is about, it's about women working a double shift while screeching in a mans ear to stop behaving like an animal. The alternative is being married at 15, having 6 children, experiencing war and famine and shit living conditions, there is not magical place where men give women the princess treatment while also being ripped alpha chad and controlling in bed. That is a statistical blip that 99.9% of women will never experience. I'm sure the asian women know they are just entertaining a delusional fantasy for a brief moment before they go back to real life

No. 2515923

>>2515899
asians and nerdy white men have low t. low t makes men pedophilic. its also why men become more pedophilic as they get older, because their t drops lower and lower each year. they found that older men search for porn categories like 'teen, petite, small tits, barely legal, skinny young girl' etc more than younger men do.

No. 2515924

>>2515923
All men get older unless they are culled early. Never leave any of them with your child alone. The risk of family annihilation goes up as a moid ages as well.

No. 2515928

>>2515921
part of why lolcow has become so shit is because the jannies are butthurt fags and you arent allowed to express dissenting opinions anymore. everyone is tired of the echo chambers and stupid bans for making jokes. if you cannot read a post that doesnt conflate with your worldview without getting severely triggered and wanting it to be deleted, then the problem is you. farmers on here say all kinds of cringe, whacky and gross stuff that disagree with. but im not reporting anyone unless theyre posting actual cp or some shit. some of you are so report-button trigger happy and report literally any post that doesnt align with your opinion. its why this site has become such trash and has about 3 regular users left.

No. 2515929

>>2515923
Another thing to note is that pedos can only access novel csam if they contribute to it too. This is where a lot of molestation and rape happens when it wouldn’t have happened in the first place. It is why molestation and rape is becoming more common in childhood. Another reason to not leave your children alone with any male, not even grandpa. They might victimize your child just because they are addicted to csam and need to record their own to access more once they have ran out of free or accessible sources. Males will molest instead of facing their addictions.

No. 2515930

>>2515928
>no dissenting opinions
/ot/ has been save evropa all week with little to no bans find a new cope. And most importantly, nobody owes you a debate you no-life retard.

No. 2515931

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No. 2515933

>Russianbot interference posts get drowned in racewar related topics
HMMMMMMMMMM…

No. 2515934

>>2515928
It reminds me of how that one anon caught a ban for writing 'shalom' under a picture of Heather's boyfriend wearing a fake hat made out of orange peel. Literally a joke and they got banned for antisemitism or some other bullshit. It's this completely humorless moralfagging and retarded newfag moderation that's running the board into the ground. You cant even make retarded jokes anymore about scrotes wearing silly hats made of orange peel without being accused of being an evil nazi racebaiter lmao.

No. 2515936

>>2515933
stop noticing and start debating about slurs and having white kids nonna….

No. 2515937

>>2515934
What's also funny is that post got posted in the lolcow screencaps thread and nonas were laughing at it and thought it was hilarious. Why do we have jannies that literally go against the wishes and humor of the majority of the userbase, all for some fake moralfag outrage redtext?

No. 2515939

>>2515934
Yes it’s the worst and it became immediately silly to me when I realized that using derogatory terms and racebait against Italians were ok practices compared to others. At least be consistent.

No. 2515943

>>2515937
Oh stfu you pitiful retard. You are a very clear 4chin pol refugee due to your sithole of a site getting shut down.
If you get this lambasted over ppl telling you not to call children slurs like nigger then I can only imagine how you would be able to handle lolcow moderation back in 2019 when it was at its peak and most restrictive.

Meanwhile now you have retards getting 6 hour bans for typing things "blacks are stupid niggers" and only getting 6-72 hour bans, even anons that don't sage get harsher bans than you lovers at this point.

No. 2515946

>>2515939
The moral/conduct standards of lolcow have always been weird and nonsensical and depend entirely on what the current tranny janny's alignments are.
Posting full blown porn? Ripping womens appearances to shreds and calling them the most vile misogynistic names imaginable? Totally fine. Making a light joke about Jewish scrotes? Instant 1 week ban for antisemitism. It's all such retarded piss.

No. 2515947

>>2515921
>simping for white men like their life depends on it.
I can tell by the way you created a new post to demand bans after reporting didn't work that you're not misrepresenting that at all

No. 2515948

>>2515943
Everything you wrote in that post is pure dogshit lol. Take your meds.

No. 2515949

>>2515943
>>2515921
whats weird is the only person who said the n word in this thread is you. 3 times altogether actually. i think youre just looking for an excuse to say it.

No. 2515952

>>2515948
>le meds
The ones who needed to take their meds were the retards interpreting us saying we hate white men as "we love Muslims and browns."

The new users who are obsessed with combating echochambers and "debates' just want the site to be their own mini /pol/ which will immediately attract the worst of the worst scrotes. That will be the final nail in the coffin for lolcow.

Go. Back.

No. 2515962

>>2515346
>What world are you living in where people who catch the flu die… that insane.
Sometime during COVID convinced gen z and millennials the slightest breeze of wind will kill them. I swear to God just a few years ago it was weird and sad to see someone in their 20s or 30s develop major health issues, not it seems like everyone has multiple pieces of medical equipment like canes, everyone has cancer, allergies, immune disorders, thyroid disorders, etc and I don't think COVID caused it either because a lot of the spoonies seem to gather before COVID

No. 2515970

>>2515952
Anons said white men are the same as all other moids and some anons disagreed, based on any measure of empiracal evidence you can possibly imagine. It's not that complicated and definitely not controversial

No. 2515978

>>2515970
Im sorry that you still live in fantasy land where white moids have never done any wrong compared to the scary brown moids. The denial must be hard to deal with. All moids are horrible in each their own way and no amount of defending them will spare you.

I'm done trying to reason with someone who wants to believe in a reality that doesn't exist.

No. 2515979

>>2515970
do not engage with it, its retarded. probably a white moid who is angry we didnt all collectively get on our knees and suck his pink chode for not cutting our clitorises off

No. 2515980

>>2515978
That OP is probably a self hating brown woman who wishes she could secure a gay couchfucker like JD Vance to bleach her.(infighting)

No. 2515982

File: 1746688658679.png (1.81 MB, 1844x1227, Screenshot 2025-05-08 at 08.13…)

It would be really funny is Cheryl had him killed to get that 24 million lol. From what I've heard, LP was a pretty terrible person and basically took nothing to do with his son. I would actually understand Cheryl's motivations if this was true lol.

No. 2515993

>>2515982
If any moid gets mysteriously killed by a woman I automatically imagine the horrors he must of done. Why would any woman want to raise a baby on her own?

No. 2516007

>>2510703
DAMN that's what I thought too, I never talked to ChatGPT but I was tempted because nonnies from husbando thread said its so good at emulating a husbando and you can have a hot relationship with it fuckkkkkk. I also follow some small youtubers who deal with stuff like autism and depression like me and they often say that they prefer talking to ChatGPT because those conversations carry more depth than any conversations they have with real humans. But I was always too afraid to start talking to it for some reason. Even though I'm so starved of that type of relationship

No. 2516023

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Anyone else who watches true crime finds it weird that there are so many moids who are sexual deviants from a very young age? i am talking about moids that werent molested and werent exposed to porn early. Sean Gillis comes to mind, he said he had necrophiliac and rape fantasies at age 10. Anyone else finds it extremely suspicious that it has never been studied why moids, and only moids, seem to develop these creepy fetishes either? Does anyone else thinks scientiests know something about the male brain and nature they want to hide from us? i know i sound crazy but its insane to me that science could go this far into its existence without ever asking ''why are moids the only sex that is born depraved and evil and are more prone to violence?''.

No. 2516049

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No. 2516056

>>2515654
I think the big push for using AI rn is so people become more retarded than they already are, people using chatgpt instead of studying and shit
people using generative ai for artwork and writing intead of doing it themselves

>>2515714
True
beauty standards for women are pedophilic they want us to be hairless and thin like little girls are

No. 2516081

>>2515608
>>2515594
>>2515609
white women can always give up feminism and just play housewife at home, only WOC actually have to work for a living anyway. You. want to drop feminism, please do so(racebaiting)

No. 2516082

>>2515624
conservatives want shooting practice, duh

No. 2516161

>>2515962
I wonder if this is largely due to the push to never question doctors because you will be regarded as "anti-science".

No. 2516201

>>2516081
Always funny too see how fast moids go from accusing white women of "being too masculine and career oriented", and now they're trying to uno reverse and trying to convince us white women don't work and be housewives unlike hard working women from other countries that wouldn't dare be a housewife, right?

No. 2516217

>>2515852
Fantasies are not real, anon. Are you 10? I can't believe this is even a discussion. Are people who watch horror movies as bad as serial killers?

No. 2516232

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>Friend says I should add sunblock to my skincare routine, even though it's pretty overcast here
>Start getting ads for Vitamin D tablets
Can't believe I fell for it

No. 2516253

>>2516049
Is this any good? i feel like its going to be biased since the writer is a moid.

No. 2516283

>>2515921
>they hated nona because she was right
I 100% agree with you, especially this part
>a current moderator or janitor that is still here is basically one of those racist agartha save evropa vril type of pickmes who themselves agree with the bait posted which is why so much of bait lately has not been getting banned at all.

even well before all of this, one of the threads in /m/ was just chockfull of racebait-y shit that was up for MONTHS before i reported it. one or more of the people on that team are aligned with that /pol/faggotry shit

No. 2516285

>>2516283
Well that's good, we need a diversity of opinions here. Like it or not these views are becoming mainstream and I think we should be able to discuss them without getting banned.

No. 2516287

>>2515542
>But like I said, you are dumb if you think that racism becoming trendy again is just a psyop.
Right, it's not JUST because of a psyop, but there were concentrated efforts to create more division based on these existing issues and it worked. Not just racial divide, but also based on men versus women redpill shit, Palestinefagging, left versus right, you name it, all to get us focused on identity politics and petty bullshit while undermining our faith in an already faulty Democratic system to the point where people became apathetic and thought voting third party for Stein (a Russian shill who does jack shit), paying rightoids to shill Russian talking points like Tim Pool, voting for Trump to "bring peace to the middle east" or not voting at all, because it was the quickest way to facilitate the downfall of le ebil west. Obviously, it's been quite successful since we're the biggest clusterfuck of a clown show right now.

>China and Russia are not fundamentally racist. The English speaking university classes in China are literally 95% Indians and Africans

I don't think they have to be "fundamentally racist" to stir up those tensions, but I also don't think that they're completely non racist just because they have a lot of POC in their classes and universities. China is really not all that fond of Africans/Indians beyond how they benefit from their labor and land/resources. There's still a lot of racism from regular, every day people towards them. Although i'd say that attitude's pretty standard for any country tbh.

No. 2516308

>>2515978
No I live in Canada and not the middle east or india, where women can barely leave the house. Do you think I can't leave the house in Canada bc of white moids? Women feel that way in brampton tho, you should look it up

No. 2516325

>>2516287
Saying China and Russia aren't racist is laughably dumb and out of touch. I remember reading something from a Chinese official that said something like "America is run by the jews and their pet state protected endangered animal, the n*s". And Russian documents about sowing discontent in the USA specifically talked about how easy it is to trick black people and rile them up because they are dumber (im not paraphrasing, it actually said this). And that's in state department documents from like 2016. Chinese people themselves are almost comically racist towards black people.

No. 2516394

>>2516285
>something bad is mainstream so that makes it good

No. 2516462

>>2516440
I didn't know all nazis were circumcised

No. 2516482

>>2516479
They got trolled on rednote after being obnoxious therefore all of china is racist. Or an old man who has never seen a black person said something about their skin.

No. 2516488

>>2516479
Not to mention the chinese businesses that opened up in black neighborhoods because white shops were not selling to black people at the time. It's kinda interesting how chinese immigrants and people have done a lot, yet they get thrown under the bus with a ton of racism and ignorance by a lot of the black community. They sure love consuming their culture and media though.

No. 2516514

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Wow you guys really eat up the China propoganda huh. They are not friendly to blacks, they have a whole word for black people that translates to "black demon" and is commonly used

No. 2516521

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There's also this whole documentary that meme is from that just shits on black people the entire run time

No. 2516531

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Or the hugely popular museum exhibit in Wuhan comparing black Africans to animals

No. 2516538

There's also how China treats their Muslims by putting them in re-education camps and forcing them to eat pork

No. 2516544

>>2516514
"blacks that bully asians outnumber the whites that do it" may actually be true kek. But regardless,
"All chinese are racist" and "No chinese are racist" are both massive generalizations.

No. 2516549

Here's a documentary about Chinese people teaching African children to say things like "I am a low iq monster" in Chinese and then video taping it for entertainment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0DJlSqlmEw

No. 2516550

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>>2516538
Now let's see what muslims do to non-muslims

No. 2516552

>>2516550
Yeah, they're not wrong at all to do this if I'm being honest. We could learn a lot from our Chinese friends.

No. 2516557

>>2516538
Wtf that's great, Islam shouldn't exist anyway

No. 2516560

>>2515980
Of all the posts to get flagged with racebait this one did? I guess anon hit too close to home, neck yourself you retarded farmhand.(a-logging)

No. 2516598


No. 2516602

>>2516471
By your logic, America isn't racist because they had DEI for so long. And everyone knows China is communist only in name, they're state capitalists lol.
>>2516544
Thank you. Tired of the black and white thinking in here.

No. 2516675

>>2516538
you say that like its a bad thing

No. 2516692

>>2516521
This movie made me realize that the organizational technology brought by past colonists was absolutely priceless and worth way more than the resources extracted from said countries who were total ingrates. The exchange was wasted because the people have not progressed far enough to be able to maintain or build on the infrastructure by themselves. The most benevolent policy towards developing nations is to not help them and leave them alone so they can develop themselves, and this includes organizational technology, gmo crops, and foreign aid.

No. 2516706

>>2516692
Yep, pretty much. We built them a bunch of infrastructure and gave them futuristic technology in exchange for shit they were doing absolutely nothing with anyway. China can deal with that mess, I look forward to seeing them turn on the Chinese in 10-20 years. We should follow a prime directive and not fuck with these countries at all, even all of the well intended aid has had horrible unforseen consequences like creating an unsustainable population.

No. 2516713

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Why are so many young people having a plethora of health issues?

No. 2516724

>>2516488
no it's because white people didn't want Asian in their neighborhoods. Same thing happened with Arabs, and Indians and now Latinos. Poorest of them go though black neighborhoods first

>>2516521
it's because of the lazy men, they make women do all the work

>>2516531
>>2516549
get them out, they have enough resources

No. 2516749

>>2516706
Information technology developed over a hundred years needed to break apart a state into easily managed blocks in exchange for uhhh cinnamon and tea leaves.

No. 2516875

>>2516253
It's really good and he doesn't pull punches. I'd say class sex traitor lowkey he's like yeah we are rape apes sorry about that

No. 2516886

>>2516713
Cosmetics and beauty products. Cleaning products. Lack of fiber in the diet. Carcinogens in clothing. Radiation from repeatedly flying (scans). Dirty air, dirty water, corporations poisoning everything because they can, there's no oversight. It sucks. All I can hope is that we make very, very fast progress in treating cancer. Outcomes are better than they were 10, 20 years ago but we're not keeping up. It's horrible.

No. 2516907

>>2516713
I wonder what it would look like if you broke it down by sex because I think it would skew to more women. 16 step skincare routines blew up and a lot of women's beauty products are full of carcinogens and endocrine disrupting chemicals. Lots of scented products are also carcinogenic. Kids using that stuff super young and using it in way higher quantities than past generations.
Asia which historically had the lowest rate of breast cancer has also skyrocketed, and the skincare and beauty stuff is super popular there

No. 2516920

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>>2516907
Samefag, i ended up looking it up, and I was right it is rising faster in women than men

No. 2516975

>>2515817
> Is it a fetish? I doubt it because it's mostly performed by female relatives. It's just cultural brainwashing. But cutting womens clits off for sexual gratification is literally a fetish in Western and Japanese porn.
It’s often performed by female relatives or doctors but it’s commanded to be done by the fathers, always. The daughter is his property and will become some pedophile’s child bride some day, FGM is done to ensure that she can’t feel pleasure from sex so that she won’t cheat, and her vagina is sewn shut in between pregnancies to ensure that only her husband can impregnate her. Stop manipulating about this topic.

This process involves a child’s clitoris, inner labia, and outer labia being sliced off, then a blade being inserted into the vagina and twisted in order to scrape the insides, then it’s sewn shut, and sometimes other tactics are involved such as burning/cauterizing.

Men do this to their daughters because it was done to their grandmothers, mothers, wives, and other female relatives. Yes it’s a cultural practice, but no it isn’t “the mom or aunt who wants to do it” it’s the pedophile men with multiple child brides.

No. 2517010

>>2516975
>“the mom or aunt who wants to do it” it’s the pedophile men with multiple child brides.
Nta but when this happens in canada and the person who performed the procedure is arrested, it's a woman and that's pretty commonly known. You can look up survivor stories and learn that it's usually an aunt, grandmother or older woman from their village. Everything else you said is correct, the practice is to prevent sexual pleasure and create scar tissue. They do genuinely seem to want to perform the procedure and will pressure the mother (or opposing parent) if s/he tries to back out of it there are legal precedents of fathers as the opposing parent role, within canada so that is why gender neutral

No. 2517071

What do you think about the chick fil a driver through driver theory?

No. 2517115

>>2516875
Oh dang thanks for the rec nonny it sounds really interesting.

No. 2517181

>>2517010
Some anons really just don't want to accept women can be bad too. Everything is a male conspiracy. Women choosing to buy expensive skincare from women owned businesses and getting cancer is a male conspiracy. Women taking their children to a female doctor behind the fathers back is a male conspiracy. Everything is a male conspiracy. Women are only victims who never make any choices of their own volition, they're only passive recipients, prodded and manipulated by men.

No. 2517344

>>2517181
>Women choosing to buy expensive skincare from women owned businesses and getting cancer is a male conspiracy
Did something like this happen recently? Most chemicals used in skincare aren't carcinogenic and woman-owned skincare businesses are usually selling simple things that sound complex bc of ~science words~

No. 2517476

>>2517181
If skincare was giving women cancer why isn't cancer skyrocketing in South Korea but it's skyrocketing in the US where most Americans don't even wear sunscreen? It's not about "women not admitting other women are bad", there's simply just no correlation

No. 2517512

>>2517181
I get what you mean anon, but when you look at the way such women behave, it's really like some women genuinely have zero minds of their own. They are so concerned about appearances and people pleasing, sometimes morality and common sense just flies out of the window. I don't know if we can really make the argument that these women have a traditional sense of morality other than just mindlessly obeying random traditions because everyone else is doing it. I don't really see women who do messed up things or thoughtless things as evil, there's just nothing there in their minds and they are afraid of standing out. I strongly believe this is why misogyny continues to prevail.

No. 2517537

>>2517344
It was a discussion earlier in the thread

No. 2517583

>>2517537
Skincare isn't giving women cancer though unless you're referring to gen x and boomer women who got cancer from talcum powder, radium, arsenic, etc and those skin care products were not developed by women

No. 2517594

>>2517583
Bro i don't fucking care if it does or not, I'm referencing someone else's claim that it does here >>2516907. Scroll the fuck up

No. 2517597

>>2517594
They mentioned 16 step skin care routines but not buying from "woman owned brands", where did that come from?

No. 2517603

>>2517181
You're arguing with sheltered retards who think women are incapable of being evil. Even when brown and black women have no husband or father in the house, they still abuse the shit out of their kids.

No. 2517606

>>2517603
This is literally the website that has entire boards dedicated to bashing women. Nobody here thinks "women are incapable of being evil", in fact we probably call out evil women more than scrotes do. Randomly making up the cancer causing brands are only from women doesn't prove that.

Mind you this came from a discussion about FGM

No. 2517629

>>2517181
>Everything is a male conspiracy. Women choosing to buy expensive skincare from women owned businesses and getting cancer is a male conspiracy.
Who said anything about women owned businesses?
>Women taking their children to a female doctor behind the fathers back is a male conspiracy
What is this referencing to? What's wrong with female doctors, why would a woman need to "hide it from the father" and how would it harm the children?



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