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General conspiracy thread. Discussions surrounding government coverups, entertainment industry secrets, predictions, political intrigues etc, are all welcome here.
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>>>/ot/1417001 I always thought that Tails looked up to Sonic and finding out that he couldn't reach Sonic's level and when he realized that he stopped trying and became at his lowest while still comparing himself to Sonic even though they could never be the same as they are different people. Which often happens when people trying to emulate their role models or older sibling.
> I wanna be like him, but that is not something I can do so easily. It's not simply my way, my style, gotta get a hold of my life.> I've gotta keep going, everything is a brand new challenge for me. And I will believe. Believe in myself, this is the only way for meI liked that in the end he decided to try harder because he realized that he had different talents and abilities compared to Sonic which was something only he could do and that while it would be challenging he would continue on with him following his own path. With this he starts to gain initiative and confidence in himself to start to help himself and others
No. 1417098
>>1417087I just hate how much of Tales struggle involves sonic. That misogynistic freak is the cause of a lot of shit for young women who've ever happened to be in the presence of a "SIA" male (Sonic induced Autistic Male). I do see what you mean, but I was thinking about it from my own tinfoil like ways, but this is also a very nice read, from a healthy brain.
This is also a "good" ending for him, where he fights all these negative thoughts and becomes his own person, to help himself and others,
though I promise you, once i go into the Sonic themes, they are all just so self centered, now they bop, "City Escape" etc. but notice the songs not focused on the blue misognst are WAY better.
I'm working on my "tinfoil" about Knuckles, I legit feel theres a "Drake"/Kanye connection, in there.
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Here's the context, I hope it explains it better, then I can at the moment, i posted near the closing of last thread, also I love the thread picture of this one, here it is-
I realized why the song at the end of "Sonic Adventure" Tails run always made me so uneasy and fucking depressed. It wasn't because my favorite part of the game was over. Or me being a sentimental idiot.
This song is literally about Tales struggles with suicidal thoughts, it's literally him writing a suicide letter nobody else will read because he never goes through with it. This is the "good" ending, where he rejects all of disillusions and realizes, I can't be what I am not.
Here are the lyrics-
>When all alone in my chair, I just go about wishin'
Tales literally thinking about suicide in his chair under the noose
>>I wanna be strong, I really wanna be trusted
>>When all alone in my bed, I just go about yearnin'
>>I wanna be cool, I also wanna be like him
this isn't just about sonic, but the "failed male" thing i spoke on eariler, day dreaming to be something else you CLEARLY ARE NOT. Wanting to be as disillusioned as Sonic . But you can't. You can yearn, you can dream, but only few can simply reject themselves from their "place" and you have to be painfully stupid and disillusioned with visions of Granduer (sonic). Tales wants so badly to be that but he can't.
>But that's not somethin' I can do so easily
This is not simply my way, my style
Gotta get a hold of my life
Literally him having a break-down trying to talk himself out of harming himself, telling himself he literally can not be the fucking waste of space that sonic is. It also ties in perfectly to what I was talking about a few days ago, when I discussed Tales and the "Side Kick Effect".
>>I wanna fly high
>>So I can reach the highest of all the heavens
>>Somebody will be
>>Waiting for me so I have gotta fly higher
Him wanting to give in
>>Gotta keep goin'
But backing out at the last mintue
>>Everything is a brand new challenge for me
>>I will believe in myself
>>This is the only start for me
>>When all alone in my sleep
>>I just go about dreamin'
>>I see myself there, having the same adventure
>>If I just follow you, I will not see the light
>>Now's the time to find my way through this life
>>I'm tryin' so hard to be strong
This literally makes me want to cry. I've felt this way before and knowing what Tales represents (The false rejection of manhood/Man childism/Knowing you are capable but being "forced" by life to play second fiddle), it really makes me feel like the whole character is just a mixture of someone's cry for help. Like a long panic attack made into a character.
I wanna fly high
>>So I can reach the highest of all the heavens
>>Somebody will be
>>Waiting for me so I have gotta fly higher
>>Gotta keep going
He thinks death will help him be appericated, he knows he's the most capable, better then sonic, smarter then sonic, but it's almost like the world is literally telling him that he needs to "become" him because it's not his place. Either be sonic, or be tales a "Failed male' or "failed sonic" if you well. Better in every way but still not born blue and misogynistic. In a way, it also perfectly shows how some TIMS are, they feel they are a "tales" but really have a false sense of reality. Their place is to be a male, rather it's a shitty existence or not, trying to be someone else, will end up just like how Tales is right now.
This song is deeper then the campaign.
The more I look into Sonic and SIA (Sonic Induced Autism in males) and these childish characters from games, I realized, it's not just a simple feel good story, it's not just simply, "Character building', theres more to this and I think Autism and depression cannot exist without sonic and sonic cannot exist without it. There's more to this then we'll ever know. There's a reason why autism is attracted to sonic and sonic breeds it.
No. 1417145
>>1417141the thread just starting, can you wait a bit before you start dick hunting? Maybe you should post something, to make it go the way you'd like
Nonnie, with all love in the world
No. 1417150
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>>1417145thank you FBI-chan, you’re right when you’re here we are never lonely
No. 1417185
>>1417183I mean, I don't think this is crazy, when they want to take down a big drug dealer, sometimes when they get smaller runners within the gang, they'll threaten them with absurd jail time/look into their past and say, "hey in 2007, you were caught trying to suck dick for poptarts behind a walmart, because of that you are on your thrid strike, if you snith maybe we can work something out"
So I do think within groups of course they black mail eachother or "inner snitchings" if you will. If thats what you are saying. I bet you right now there's some 20 year old cat boy being "threatened" to collect disgusting material for a upperhand (aka, a bigger anon who runs the whole disgusting opp).
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No. 1417471
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>>1417420I’ll just upload the compilation photos. tinfoil that Balenciaga is sonic sperging to distract dedicated nonnies
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Seriously so weird and blatant. disgusting, will this actually negatively effect them?
No. 1417745
>>1417141>>1417471>>1417474I haven't lurked these threads I'm a long while but ofc weird delairing spergs show up when nonnas start discussing schemes about pedos abducting children.
Take care anons, this thread is most likely being watched.
No. 1417780
>>1417770Shut up retard. Take your meds if you aren't a fed (doubtful).
Lmao this is exactly what I was talking about, this thread is being delaired.
Seems like anons have hit some nerve talking about pedo brands lol.
No. 1417787
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Balenciaga has turned off and deleted all of the comments on all of their photos on instagram as they couldn't handle moderating all of their hate comments regarding bondage bears, child pornography court cases and more.
>>1417745I made this thread and made this image
>>1417474 and this
>>1417087 post because I was curious about the analysis just like the Sonic vs. Mario and Tails vs. Luigi in the previous thread and didn't want to bring up the Balenciaga fiasco since there wasn't any new information
also needed to go to sleep and dumb newfags started to ruin this thread like yourself
>>1417745 >>1417780 shows up. Learn to spell and stop reddit spacing, it shows that you never been here before you cretin
No. 1417794
>>1417774I am the sonic poster. Who posted
>>1417770 and I'm 100% serious about what I wrote. It's in the right thread, I provided my reasoning but I also contributed to the threads on different topics I want to talk about and discuss. It's crazy to me how nonnoes come like. " the literal fbi is trying to stop us from asking about x,y and z" just fucking talk about it.
My tinfoil isn't bothering anyone and I've also commented on others shit. It's weird. And frankly is starting to annoy me because it's really derailing the thread by not posting tinfoil but whining about how "the tinfoil I want people to talk a out isn't being talked about" fucking keep talking about it. I bet I commented more on others tinfoil then the nonnies complaining have.
No. 1417808
>>1417775I hear about these mostly on lsa from what I get it's
>>forcing scrotes to do outlandish shitt Da Baby and the Diaper video >>Meek Mills bunny hopping for billionaires>>the leaking of male sex tapes between male celebrities (usually rappers/or black male celebrities) and troons/menFemale artists being things like
>>clearly uncomfortable and weird changes in personas, either super sexual suddenly or super weird or gender special shit I can't think of anything else, but it seems that the people that bw use sex a lot to "control" people. I also heard a rumor that some troons get paid a lot of money to make up "rumors" about certain celebs.
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>>1416211frankly speaking, I literally cannot comprehend why so many parents are taking their toddlers and kindergarteners to drag shows. drag shows are just male strip shows with more costumes and glitter; that doesn't make it appropriate for children under any context. Why are you taking your kids to drag shows?!
No. 1417835
>>1417825Why do kids need to go to these things? What is with this push that almost seems artificial to agrue they
need to be exposed and it's not that bad etc.
It makes zero sense. Kids have fucking clowns.
No. 1417898
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Demna Gvasalia is the creative director of Balenciaga meaning that he is the one that controls the overarching concept of collection and with the summer 2023 the mud show collection he elected not to explain the concept nor the design it self.
>I hate boxes and I hate labels and I hate being labeled and placed in a box. Society, the internet, and the world in general loves doing that, because it feels safe this way.
>One needs to have courage and persistence to truly assume their identity and who they really are. Every day becomes a battlefield to defend this unique identity. And the more you try to be yourself the more you get punched in your face. But how great it is to be different from one another.
>The challenge is to get up and keep walking towards your true self after you have been beaten up and knocked down.
>Fashion loves boxes and labels more than anything. Luxury, not luxury, street, couture, good, bad, buzz, viral, all the same, who cares. Putting luxury fashion into the box of polished, exclusive, and visually expensive is limited and pretty old school. Individualism in fashion is downgraded to pseudotrends dictated by a post in stories of some celebrity of the moment.
>I’ve decided to no longer explain my collections and verbalize my designs, but to express a state of mind. Fashion is a visual art and all we need is for it to be seen through someone’s eyes. Fashion in its best case scenario should not need a story to be sold to someone. You either like it or not.
>The set of this show is a metaphor for digging for truth and being down to earth. Let us let everyone be anyone and make love not war.
All he is saying is that he won't explain himself why he had the idea of bondage bears and children using it.
Balenciaga nor Denma has not made any mention of the backslash they received regarding the paedophilic undertones of the photo-shoot with Gabriel the photographer and seem to either waiting for the crowds to cool down before making a statement or are hoping to sweep this under the rug. I didn't think to check Denma's instagram account yesterday and found out that he deleted every post of his on instagram. With the shoot Denma must have had a say on the models and props as the photos will be used as advert later on as it did, however I think that Gabriel did the paedophilic undertones deliberately as i checked his other works and it seem mostly focused on the working class, differences with third and first worlders. With his works I noticed that he was very detail oriented and there couldn't have been a mistake on his part with papers with the US v. Williams court case as you can see here the yellow sticky notes brings your eye to the paper and not the bag itself.
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>>1417898Adding picrel because I made it and want to share it. However, it didn't fit with what I was saying
No. 1418305
>>1418265Jay Myers Documentaries was a decent tinfoil channel but YouTube being faggots permabanned it so now he’s in bitchute, another YouTuber is Jamie Dlux who mainly focuses on hollyweird pedos and degenerates. From what I’ve seen, they are neither pro or anti-Trump
Side note: took vc long enough
https://vigilantcitizen.com/latestnews/aaron-carter-the-suspicious-death-of-a-blatant-industry-slave/ No. 1418391
>>1418366>You're the Sonic autist. You're the sperg.No I'm not, I have played maybe one of the Sonic sega game which was years ago before dropping it since Sega isn't popular in my country compared to Mario and the like. I asked the question after listening to the song a few times and trying to remember the gameplay of that Sonic game I played years before and was interest in hearing her out.
You have been bring up the topic again again and complaining at the state of the thread despite everyone else contributing and letting the topic slide. You are the sperg since you keep bringing it up. You have Sonicitis.
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>>1418159Well, shit. Since you're mentioning it I wanna rec this book.
No. 1418426
>>1418415Can't you read?
>You're the Sonic autist. You're the sperg.>No I'm not, You are the sperg since you keep bringing it up. You have Sonicitis.You have Sonicitis, it's quite deadly for spergs like yourself.
No. 1418444
>>1418426Leave her alone.
People enjoyed the sonic thoughts and some of them were very on the nose. It gave me personally a lot to think about.
Post what you want to see or gtfo
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>>1417898Balenciaga gave a public statement regarding the situation
>they are sorry for offending the public by letting children hold the bags like it's a whoopsie>two hours later, child abuse is bad!!! We will prosecute the people that did this, which was definitely not Balenciaga or Denma. It was the replaceable staff…Photo in question that stuck outrage was these two.
Tired and not good at finding thing like other farmers. I'll try better next time>>1418447I think the photographer did this on purpose to bring attention Balenciaga bad behaviour regarding children since most of his works are detailed oriented and I doubt that he didn't read the documents since he needs to stage the props for the photo
No. 1418494
>>1418484i really hope to see we get an update on that "legal action" they claim to want to take, more and more, I see people making empty threats of "legal action" to scare people off or just to shut people up.
Really fucking crazy and sus this shit slid past them, those pictures make me feel sick.
No. 1418533
>>1418484It's so weird, I kind of understand the first picture with the bored kid just laying there, hell, if they didn't add the bdsm bears and dog stuff, it could be trying to send a message of how some people will get fancy shit from overpriced brands and will neglect their kids to keep an image of being fashionable and cool.
But the second one is super weird, and honestly all over the place because while it continues with the theme of child neglect, since it seems like the kid is just waiting for her/his-?- parents to pay attention to her/him-?- having the bdsm bears makes it fucking weird, why not do something more "child friendly" at least? Like moschino's bear, but I don't know, make a hype unicorn wearing ugly hype frumpy clothes.
Still, I don't understand just why is a fashion brand even trying to sell clothes while showing us stuff about child neglect, just be sexy like everyone else, make some hot models pose with the stuff or some shit, tell us more about the abuse that happens in fashion houses, the eating disorders that models develop, the unethical ways in which everything is produced.
Keep the kids away from the cameras for once, Jesus Christ.
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We should be keeping an eye out on this philosophy. I've been hearing about it more often and it sounds very similar to what the WEF was talking about years ago.
>What is longtermism? Longtermism is an ideology that emerged from the so-called Effective Altruism movement over the past decade, and which claims that influencing the future—hundreds, thousands, millions, and even billions of years from now—is a key moral priority of our time, if not the key priority. The reason is that, as William MacAskill and Hilary Greaves argue, there could be vast numbers of people—perhaps 10^45—living in giant computer simulations running on planet-sized computers powered by Dyson spheres spread throughout the Milky Way galaxy, or beyond. Hence, if one wants to "do the most good," it would be better to focus on these possible future people—e.g., by making sure that they exist in the first place—rather than on, say, helping the ~1.3 billion people currently living in multidimensional poverty.https://www.longtermism-hub.com/An in depth guide here about the connection of this to the FTX scandel:
https://t.co/Watdl2NrkL No. 1418592
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wtf
No. 1418593
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also wtf
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Current pokemon gen is the worst gen. It not only has a bunch of tranny shit, the pokemon are also badly designed. Besides Koraidon and Miraidon everything else looks like a blob.
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>>1418543>multidimensional poverty.Oh. These are a new terrifying pair of words.
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>>1418543These people are unhinged from material reality. Picrel is from one of Nick Bostrom’s papers referred to in OP’s second link. It’s not that I disbelieve in the simulation theory, but rather that I think it doesn’t matter either way. If I stab you, will you bleed? The repulsion for this theory that I feel is positively correlated to how deeply billionaires adore it. Nick is almost single handedly responsible for laying the groundwork that formed this movement of silver spooned worms becoming quant traders to save us commoners from ourselves. Some men find out that time is linear and get fucking offended. Below is the original navel gazing that initiated this rot:
https://www.simulation-argument.com/ No. 1418745
>>1417898>>1418484>I think the photographer did this on purpose to bring attention Balenciaga bad behaviour regarding children>Demna Gvasalia, the creative director of Balenciaga (…) elected not to explain the concept nor the design it self.I think we will never get an actual explanation but I just can't stop thinking about this; I'm working in advertising with MUCH smaller brands than Balenciaga, and even for smaller brands, in campaigns like that a lot of people inspect every single detail of every single advertising piece created on every stage of the production. Creative director would plan / oversee planning every detail to be displayed and usually would be present on the photo set, working alongside photographer and studio crew on preparing the sets. After everything is done, the photos will be inspected by PR, legal, creatives. There's no way one person could just slip something in; so I find it difficult to believe it could be just photographers initiative. A lot of people knew exactly what's placed. Most likely more than one person worked on picking what text will be printed, where it will be displayed, and how much of it will be readable. It's too many people involved for this to be sabotage. And then, if it's not a sabotage but provocation, then why? It's bad PR only, big part of campaign had to be removed, that's a lot of money wasted. Is it possible that in case of such a big brand even child porn association would end up in positive visibility gain? Since they're too luxurious to be "cancelled"… what would I give to be a fly on a wall in the production meeting and on set.
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well I guess we are finally getting closer to the singularity of one single giant media blob controlling everything
No. 1419410
>>1418338>this as a vax refuser autistwell that's fine i guess, i can't afford international travel anyway. i will never take the vaccine. all my other hopes and dreams burned up, they may as well burn my dream of travel, too.
i think the mega-wealthy are trying to stop all travel so only they can ever travel (on private jets/yachts). it's not enough for them to have a great life–they have to ensure us wageslaves are miserable and deprived of all niceties.
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feels like a cruel joke .
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Found on Balenciagas facebook photos. What does this document underneath mean? Why is the bear dirty, and what does this represent?
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Ok so Here's my conspiracy on the war on animation that is happening right now on Warner Discovry right now.
The newest projects that were delayed or outright cancelled/unrealeased were all trying to be different or be bigger in scope than their predecessors and everything was going alright until the merge happened and came the new CEO, this new CEO has the idea of glorying every franchise WB owns so they all become valuable forever, this is known but what I believe is that the CEO saw these new projects and maybe thought that they just tried to be as different from how the public knows these IPs in an experimental direction, he didn't liked that so he got rid of them to invest on more live action since it's easier to produce and more marketable towards the average viewer but even the average viewer knows that getting rid of all animated projects wasn't right, so he greenlit the most bland, generic, ugly, controversial and just cringe project of all, Velma which is a show that so far has proven to be as alienating as possible, it's biggest problem is that the people behind the show are trying to own those "mean internet people" so hard by making the show as unwatchable as possible and that's not a good plan but the CEO knows this, his plan all along was to make people see the worst big budget animation of all time so he can use it as his excuse to convince investors and the average viewer to no longer support animation made by WB so they focus on live action content.
I enjoyed the new Christmas story sequel they did and put on HBO max so maybe I'm part of the problem.
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sylvia plath faked her death and became her "friend" elizabeth sigmund, to whom sylvia dedicated 'the bell jar'.
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>>1422271same
nonny I'm like picrel I don't know either of this women I'm so curious
No. 1422334
>>1422324you should start with his manson/tate murders paper, since it was so damning to the official story that they had to run interference in the form of tom o'neill's book 'chaos', which tries to sell the angle of manson as some mk-ultra
victim, when in reality he was just a ruling class agent/actor like almost every other person you've seen in the news.
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i don't really believe UFOs are aliens or that aliens have even made it to earth but i HAVE seen UFOs, particularly the triangle shaped red lights. saw them in the crystal clear night sky of rural Hawai'i back in 2005. i want to know WHAT it is so badly!
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>paul giamattis cast listings disappear and he no longer exists
>jim carrey is now credited as paul giamatti under all his movies
>some hours pass
>arnold schwarzenegger now no longer exists and his cast listings disappear
I've never seen the google algorithm do this so I have to wonder whether or not it could be intentional? posted to celebricow thread already but any ideas tinfoilers
No. 1422690
>>1417471This shit is sickening. holy fuck I keep doubting myself as a schizo then more shit comes out. I have no doubts anymore
>>1420427This is true. Unfortunately I've stumbled upon other instances but it's this combined with them utilizing something I can only call the pedo gaze. Not that that's all that new but it's somehow gotten creepier combined with what you mention as well as being more blatant with csa themes. I need a long shower. Last thing that's far less consequential but every time celebs are on some carpet getting awards or whatever notice the overarching theme to their outfits. No matter the season, halloween or not it doesn't matter. I thought I was losing it but I'm not. A whole group of people have up top
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Nonnies I'm afraid it gets worse. One of the Balenciaga ads features a book of art by Michael Borremans called Fire from the Sun. I highly suggest not searching that in images because it contains paintings of naked little children engaging with/eating? bloodied disembodied limbs, everyone's favorite material.
https://twitter.com/itsnatlydenise/status/1595301521134354432https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2022/11/24/balenciaga-slammed-as-disturbing-michael-borremans-book-features-in-ad/ No. 1422855
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>>1422679Found person when browsing a reddit thread regarding the error who seems to be leaving rather ominous comments.
Not sure if they have anything to do with the glitch but they definitely act like they know something.
No. 1422952
>>1422757I always had a feeling the fashion industry was off since I tattooed a semi-famous designer (not saying who he is or what I tattooed on him so I don't doxx myself) with some satanic symbolism. He was weird and said some pretentious shit that I only half-listened to but I remember him talking about his interest in "dark stuff" and how there's so much "below the surface" that we don't see because it's too dark. Not his exact words but something to that effect. That experience and a few others put me off tattooing. I'm sorta spiritual and feel like inking satanic images into someones flesh is bad juju and I was damning my soul by doing it. Anyway, after looking into symbolism and just surface level stuff about how models are treated I
know that industry is evil. Same as Hollywood it eats people up and spits them out. Maybe not even metaphorically speaking if the Marina Abramović rabbit hole is anything to go by.
>>1422830Please do! I love hearing theories about this place.
>>1422855Am I crazy or did Carey speak out about conspiracies? Like didn't he have a crazy period with the hobo beard and stuff?
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>>1422679i think it is just a fuck up on googles end, but it sure is strange. when i google jim carrey it even lists giamattis son as his kek
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>>1422952>Like didn't he have a crazy period with the hobo beard and stuff?he's always been anti vaccine and outlandish and did the "Illuminati" gag on Kimmel a few years ago, but definitely not on anyone's good side. considering what he did to his ex he seems like the celebrity to be involved in deeply depraved shit if anyone
did read a few rumors about him being a high ranking satanist. the church has denied housing him. his connection to sam kininson makes him pretty suspicious
>>1422989It's still doing it this morning. Arnold is still missing from his movie listings as well.
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>>1423205his girlfriend's suicide note is harrowing.
was she taken out by hollywood or did he actually drag her so deep into his world she took herself out? tragic either way
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>>1423223His mainstay lawyer, Marty Singer (infamous hollywood attorney, his firm also defended price andrew and armie hammer) is notorious for using fixers, who at their worst are glorified hitmen. Per her suicide note his girlfriend knew he had previous lawsuits for stds so wouldn't be surprising if he killed her. She had enough intel to expose him, and she didn't claiming she loved that scrote
The other possibility is that he goaded her into killing herself. he was her last call before she died, on FaceTime no less.
the subsequent lawsuit filed by the family after her death was not dismissed by the court, it was dismissed by the plaintiff. he never disproved he had any stds, just claiming that one document they submitted was faked. he tried to hire on a lawyer who worked on the catholic sex scandal cases to make him look credible (ray boucher) on top of Singer. whatever happened, still believed he abused that woman.
he paid a massive stipend to jenny mccarthy after their five year partnership to shut her up too. none of his exes like to talk about him. this man is definitely into some deep dark shit and I've seen people describe him as having a closet of skeletons as big as weinstein. kind of just want someone to expose his ass. maybe the google hack is a sign, it's the beginning fo the end?
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>>1423371Kinison was a pentecostal preacher turned comedian known for being unapologetically raunchy. during his days at the comedy store the environment was rumored to be extremely dreary, gross and sex laden. he was said to be a satanist. he died after getting into a car crash in 1992
I'm not as versed in comic lore as I should be but it would not shock me considering he interacted with carrey if he led him down a similar path. marc maron I know did not like him and they had a falling out, it's discussed during jim's wtf with marc podcast episode
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Ah so the creative team are the pedo luciferians. Got it.
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>>1422988Nothing beyond what's known in this thread; her connections to the elite, particularly Podesta and pizzagate. Her "art" does give me bad vibes though. Just don't trust that woman.
>>1422997I specialised in Japanese Irezumi inspired art, that was my passion. Although the style is perhaps now more popular than ever in the west, it's still quite niche. So I tattooed a bunch of shit I didn't care for to pay the bills. There's the satanic stuff I touched on, which is quite popular among edgelords. But I also tattooed two Freemasons; like honest to god actual fucking masons. I know this because I looked them both up online and they both were in social media pics on the official account pages. The first one was a dentist, cheerful enough bloke talking about all the charity work they do while I tattooed a square and compass on his chest. He gave me a weird vibe, but I acknowledge that may be my inherent bias towards masons (and dentists). The second guy also wanted a square and compass, said he was told to ask for me by the dentist. Bit weird I thought, any of my co-workers could do something so simple, but maybe the dentist was just throwing me more business since he was quite the gentleman with his manners and giving me a very generous tip. The shop I worked in was literally less than a two minute walk away from the local lodge as well, so it didn't seem
too weird the guy would take a recommendation from his friend and go to the nearest shop to their lodge. This second guy was odd though. Saw my Star of David necklace and talked to me about religion, asked if I believe we need one religion to unite the world, asked what I know of Masons and what my honest thoughts on them are. It felt like an interrogation, but again, my bias was here at work so that no doubt affected my perception of him. Two weeks later I got a call asking if I'd do a THIRD square and compass and I just lied and said I was fully booked up. I don't know if the person asking was a mason or an edgelord (not at all rare for them to get masonic symbols although they usually choose the eye of providence) but it freaked me the fuck out and I refused to tattoo anything masonic after that. It was just a strong gut feeling I had to knock that shit off. The other part of what made me quit is the aforementioned bad feeling I got inking satanic imagery into peoples skin. I'm no longer religiously Jewish, but I was born and raised that way and I do belive in a higher power and that there must be
some sort of spiritual component to life, even though I can't put it into words. I started having really vivid nightmares filled with religious imagery where I often ended up in hell. A recurring theme in the dreams was being on trial in some way (before Jesus, Judas, Saint Peter, King Solomon, sometimes god himself) where it was shown to them the symbols I tattooed and I was judged harshly for wasting my talent on evil images that allegedly act as incantations. And these weren't just "oh no I had a bad dream" they really were full-blown nightmares, the kind of nightmare that had me waking up covered in sweat with my heart pounding. I tell most people I quit because of back pain and because I couldn't tattoo the art I love enough, and to some extent that's true. But honestly? I felt like my mind and heart were screaming at me to stop fucking about with dark stuff. Occam's Razor says it's my religious upbringing that made me feel that way, and hey, that's probably true. I'm just happy to be able to sleep again at night.
>>1423275Does anyone have a link to the suicide note? I remember his gf dying and him being a pall bearer(?) but I didn't about the allegations against him.
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>>1423491>>April 8, 2013, 6:55 PM>>You have not thought about the stigma I have to live with for the rest of my life, you have not apologized or once asked is there something you can do to make it better or even felt bad for it. Or even ask me how I'm feeling about it. Instead you did a whole lot of screaming and turned it around on me. Have you even once sat down and really thought how this affects me. I still love you and I believed that you sent that text because you cared about me. I was going to tell my lawyer that I didn't want to go further with it when I realized you changed lawyers and you wereadvised to text me. It wasn't coming from you at all, you probably hate me and are saying whatever is necessary.
>>The decent thing to do, what is that? I think keeping quite and private about it when I want to scream from the rooftops is a decent thing to do. You know what I want and it's nothing to do with money. I didn't get a lawyer so I could take your money and I am probably going to get in trouble for texting you, I'm sure you will use it against me but I wanted to say this Thursday. Whatever the lawyers decide to do I don't care. This is what I want, you gave me hsv and hpv, I want you to apologize for it because you care enough to. I want you to understand that however little a thing that seems to you, it ruins a girls life. I want you to take care when you are with other girls and pay attention to your body your actions effect people. I don't want to be disrespected like you have been doing. >>Before you I might not have had very much but I had respect, I was a happy person, I loved life, I was confident and I felt good in my skin and was proud of most decisions I made. I met you, you introduced me to cocaine, prostitutes, mental abuse and disease. You did good things for me but being with you broke me down as a person Jim. I was promised Jekyll and instead I got Hyde. Because I love you I would have stuck out Hyde all year and done everything he wanted to be with Jekyll for 5 of those but you threw me away when you absorbed anything worthwhile that was left of me. No. 1423569
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>>1423476Glad to be of service. Carreys so weird that I wouldn't put it past him to be a full fledged occultist. He definitely has a hypnosis over hollywood to keep dragging his zombified form into new productions every few years.
Whatever leverage this motherfuck has makes him virtually teflon. Why is some washed up serial killer looking comic who's no longer palatable so well protected? There has to be something else here.
Carrey also happens to know an infamous Russian oligarch who is mutual friends with Trump and Steven Segal, Oleg Deripaska. Deripaska rose to the top of his game through organized crime. Combine his relationship with both Singer and Deripaska and his longevity in the industry plus not starting from nepotism, add in possible other factors, it's lethal.
>>1423491Heres her note nona
https://imgur.com/a/JaR3VN1he was accused of giving her multiple stds, introducing her to addictive drugs, abusing her in general. he rekindled their relationship multiple times after initially dumping her and abused her until she found life so unbearable she killed herself. allegedly.
I heard Carrey has online burners and him and his pr are active on reddit and Instagram in particular. Maybe Twitter. With him playing NEET, god knows what he's doing. There's been a weird increase in articles and news about him the last month or so.
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>>1423569Jesus Christ, that poor woman… he did all that and she still loved him. Sickens me that he was allowed to be a pall bearer.
>I heard Carrey has online burners and him and his pr are active on reddit and Instagram in particular. Maybe Twitter. With him playing NEET, god knows what he's doing. There's been a weird increase in articles and news about him the last month or so.That might explain the Careyfags in celebricows and on /g/ kek. Surely nobody is actually attracted to that ghoul.
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>>1423569Just want to tell you
nonnie that you are my favorite anon, always glad to know you are here. I love your Carrey posts and wish you all the best!
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>>1423748satan worshiper is just a loose theory, but he definitely has his fingers in shady pies. he's known the oligarch since the early 00s after meeting him through a fixer named bob van ronkel and the lawyer since his career boom in the 90s. it's a question of how carrey continues to make money when his newer products flop and he lost a lot of his residuals during the 2008 recession. while $180 million is a fraction of what he was once worth, it's still far too high considering how little he's done in recent years. so what pies is he sticking his fingers in and what does he have on people to keep himself relevant and to have outwitted himself out of the girlfriend scandal.
it's similar to johnny depp and his shady lawyer and pr spin doctor adam waldman, waldman is also connected to deripaska and has served as a russian agent since 2009. deri also has fingers in the pies of the modeling industry and carrey has dated quite a few russian models. russia and that section of europe also has a lot of sex trafficking.
>>1423661you know at this rate I wouldn't disbelieve he was behind any of his own hype, or his bots or people. the depp case really opened my eyes that a lot of celebrities "hype" is manufactured
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>>1423993Samefagging because I feel like sperging more. The satanic symbolism they are revealing isn’t a big secret. Most entry level schizos are acquainted with them.. Even some facebook boomers do. They made it as edgy and pretentious as possible to make the message clear and as vast as it could be. It was never about the money either since the customers of Balanciaga most likely won’t have a problem with it (and might even feel boisterous about using this brand associated with satan worshipping and
elite pedophiles because it associates them to the image of power they have or maybe they are pedos themselves and want to support it) and most of the general public will either forget about it or move on because there is nothing the average joe/jane can do about it. It’s Balenciaga who still has that elite image that might even be heightened given it’s association with elite activities.
Some schizos have said that the elite have to reveal their actions or announce their plans as a way to free themselves from some of the weight of their actions (I don’t directly believe in this, just throwing it out here because it’s the schizo thread). Analogy would be a guy telling you that if you enter his property you’ll get mauled by his pitbulls and he will let it happen and you still do it even when you were warned and as a result the blame doesn’t entirely fall upon the pitbull owner. Why would they want the weight of their actions lifted? Something related to karma and energy that I can’t recall at the moment.
Sorry 4 the slightly incoherent rambling lol I’m tipsy
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>>1423993>>1424006these are the people who probably take their children to drag shows or have their kids be part of them, rebecca walker daughter of the famous Alice Walker talked about how it was like growing in the left wing literacy scene, rebecca was never molested or raped but she had a unstable and traumatizing life living with her mother, no rules, getting taught about sex and kinks by adults, seeing her mother and her lovers casually nude, it was basically a bunch of degenerates who were openly degenerate in front of their children and tried to frame it as revolutionary parenting, her daughter preferred living with her birth father, step-mother and half siblings, over alice's group of hippies in san francisco cause it was a stable and normal healthy environment
the people who made this are ad are simply disconnected from reality,
No. 1424678
>>1424317there's so much and all of it is worth your time – but for me, when i found his website, among all his big claims the easiest for me to see at first was that serial killers are fake – he has essays on bundy, gacy, the zodiac, the night stalker, btk, the green river killer, henry lee lucas and ed kemper. he doesn't do dahmer, but intel recently did a callback to him in the form of a 'cannibal' named 'kevin bacon' that he covers. from there i was more capable of having an open mind to his other claims, many of which will strike you as outrageous as first because like everyone else not connected to the intelligence community you've been denied the ability to critically understand how the world is run, on purpose, for your entire life.
after you've been reading him for a while, once you see the formulas at play and understand his research method, you on your own will be able to find stuff that even he didn't find. like before i read him no way would i have been able to figure out in my lifetime that sylvia plath faked her death, but now it was the work of twenty minutes.
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>>1424678Anon do you believe that “Mass Shooters” are fake too? Like the entire thing is orchestrated and put into motion and the shooters are trained by the government? I don’t mean the Alex Jones crisis actor thing. The
victims of the shootings are real deaths to me of course.
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>>1424682or actually the 'cannibal' ate a man named kevin bacon, i didn't read it closely because at this point i don't need convincing that a story like that is fake.
yes, i do think all the major mass shooting are theatrical productions of military intelligence. all the stuff about mk-ultra is misdirection, the real trauma-based mind control is the entirety of 'the news'. they are controlling the minds of the entire population who (until now) had no choice but to accept their lies as reality.
it's not in his 'best of' but he has a five-part series on the anders brevik/utoya shootings that is very compelling and in-depth, along with breakdowns of sandy hook, port arthur, christchurch, orlando, aurora, dunblane las vegas, charleston, highland park. that's just off the top of my head. you can't read his paper on the recent club q shooting and come away thinking that's real.
the 'shooters' are not trained, or orchestrated, or tricked by intel/the government. that's the explanation they provide for people who don't accept the events at face value, to keep you from understanding they are actors from ruling class and military/intelligence families.
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>>1424460>>1424678>>1424682Thanks, nonas. I'm gonna check his serial killer stuff out next, I think. Now it's clicked in my head how COINTELPRO used the Tate "murder" to smear hippies, I can see how alphabet agencies would use serial killers to get funding and keep people afraid.
>>1424686NTA but Columbine becomes VERY interesting when you realise that multiple students are on record as seeing grown men - not teens like Klebold and Harris - and a sniper on the roof that the feds deny existing. There's also the fact that two survivors were shot dead in a Subway shop just under a year after the school shooting. It is a murder that remains unsolved to this day. Isaiah Shoels parents reportedly had to move because of threatening phone calls too. And that's just the anomalies off the top of my head. As for recent shootings, that one in the supermarket (was it Buffalo, New York?) is suspicious given the footage of his "rifle" that has no muzzle flash and when a woman was shot in the head at close range there was no blood and her face looked just fine. The guy arrested looks different to the guy in the news pictures and IIRC some of the manifesto is literally copy-and-pasted from the NZ mass shooter.
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>>1424678nice to see another
nonny here familiar with miles mathis, him and clues forums seem to hate eachother but they have the same views on shit, so that's another good resource for some fake events, the forum is pretty much dead nowadays tho, I learned a lot of interesting stuff there 10 years ago. Them and Mathis were probably the only ones calling bullshit on a lot of these events and deaths back then.
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>>1423641thanks nona. I'm surprised I'm still alive
maybe a glitch in the matrix could actually erase him. wouldn't that be nice. abiding by his psilocybin fueled words that he doesn't exist
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>>1425112there are rumors he was behind a celebrity blind item about a scrote comedian who owns a club. the club in lieu of cover will apparently solicit nudes from women. there are rumors he is also connected to blind items about a guy who collects and threatens to spread revenge porn. if he is running or involved in club management it's probably under an alias so good luck finding it. nowhere about the locale but presumably somewhere in california
I watched some kinison tonight and it really is creepy how disturbed and obsessed with sex comedians from that era were. after carrey left linda ronstadt and his attempt at a teen movie guy career I guess he also lost his marbles. the fact that maron couldn't withstand comedy store and had a falling out with kinison and carrey allegedly stuck around says a lot
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>>1425071I'd like to add I never heard about the kinison thing on a podcast, heard it elsewhere. cant remember where exactly
also rewatched unnatural acts tonight noticing carreys voice timbre changed post fame? everything about him is so situational it's ridiculous
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>>1425675>it's so weird that comedians think just mentioning sex is somehow meant to be funny, even female comedians do this sort of "so i got drunk and had anal and pooped everywhere hahahah lol" and that is just meant to be funny?your post reminded me of this
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>>1425615>apparently kinison was a normal guy until he got a head injury and his personality changedthis also happened to John Belushi, who had a seizure in highschool and his whole personality flipped. it also happened to chris farley IIRC, some incident fucked him irreparably (people theorize his dad molested him). maybe there’s a link between fat drug addicted comedians and head injuries
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>>1425615Chris D'elia was recently accused of harassing and stalking a woman online. She asked for TRO against him. The lawyer tried to claim she was crazy. lawyer is the same fellow who defended Prince Andrew and Armie Hammer and works under Marty Singer's firm. All these comedians, and many hollywood actors use Singer and his firm as their scandal guys. Something about D'elia reminds me of Charlie Sheen. Both slimy nepotism babies.
Lavely & Singer uses fixers. This is all but written in blood, and blatantly obvious to anyone who knows what a fixer is. No law firm has this high a percentage of dismissals related to Hollywood sex scandals without some kind of behind the scenes intimidation. There's a braggart fixer named Paul Barressi who masquerades as a PI who worked for Singer, and he was a student under infamous fixer Anthony Pellicano. pellicano was incarcerated in the early 00s, released after 14 years jail time, and went right back to defending offenders.
https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/tv/story/2022-09-30/chris-delia-temporary-restraining-order-caroline-schmitz No. 1425975
>>1425953the entire entertainment industry is teaming with psychological problems and drug dependency, also rampant abuse. my guess is that some of them stay
victims and implode, but others graduate to become the abusers. farley seemed like a very troubled guy who could only get sex from hookers even after being famous, i watched a documentary on him a while back. i think most comedians are just degenerate drug addicts like artie lange, and there isn't necessarily any seedy connections. but speaking of the entertainment industry and psychological problems, have you ever looked into the britney spears stuff? it's so dark and creepy.
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>>1425975This was pure brain rot nona lmao
I thought it was cute to listen to them tinfoil in my bath while I shaved but it really devolves at the end into pure unlistenable garbage. They way they said "ew" at any slightly lesbian reference was delicious cringe.
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>>1426137not pete anon but lorne wanted him desperately to be new era snl's golden boy. he pushed him hard. after he dated ariana I wonder if it pushed him into the spotlight as an available pr boyfriend. he definitely seems like a pr bf for hire and that's his new image (personal opinion: he's not that funny and he's not that great an actor either)
>>1426245itll always be funny to me how steve buscemi was former firefighter who helped out on 9/11, yet he never speaks about it. meanwhile one of petes foundations is his dad dying in 9/11. has anyone actually deep dove to see whether or not it's true
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>>1426288I've found mention of him and Ladder Co. 118 in Brooklyn Heights. From a glance he looks legit. He did die at 33, which can certainly be seen as a calling card. But until I've dug up articles from 2001 I won't say for sure that it is. I'll see what else I can find on him tomorrow.
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>>1426303paired with the 118 i'd say the 33 is telling. aces and eights, chai. you give money in multiples of what at a bar mitzvah? and his entry in a book of 9/11 memorials seems like an inside joke along the lines of 'bob christian' being behind the georgia guidestones, 'fiston ngoy' being charged with public rape, etc.
his mom's maiden name is waters, which is peerage, and i'd swear when i looked into him a few months ago i found his mom related to cheneys in public records, but i can't find them now. this is a sign to nonas to screenshot everything.
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>>1426374It's art, I love looking at them.
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>>1426495you could call them… hired goons
the simpsons is very on the money with their references and predictions so this isn't surprising at all
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Based as fuck article I can't wait until my communist dystopia starts to follow suit with the US.
>Yet Americans who were unvaccinated were fired, shamed, and ostracized because public health officials refused to acknowledge then what they acknowledge today: natural immunity protects humans. So why did it take a year for public health officials to acknowledge the “textbook science?”>It’s not an exaggeration to say that billions of dollars were at stake over whether Covid vaccines were mandatory or voluntary, which might explain why Pfizer alone spent more than $10 million lobbying in 2021 and even more in 2020.>To suggest that something as crude as financial incentives could have played a role (even a small one) in Covid policy might shock people, but it’s important to remember that forcing people to buy or use goods (ostensibly for their own benefit) is a tried and true tactic of crony capitalism.https://fee.org/articles/the-cdc-finally-admitted-the-science-on-natural-immunity-why-did-it-take-so-long/amp No. 1427001
>>1422334Different anon, also just finished the Manson/Tate paper. Very interesting, thank you!
>>1424678This post reminded me that not too long ago I saw some moid on /x/ talking about how Jeffrey Dahmer was a hoax but that he wasn't going to exmplain it because of glowies and that we should do the research ourselves. He gave out supposed hints which were
>baptism and water motives>number 7 supposedly, he actually said the size of a menorah but I assumed he was racebaiting>a poster of one of the recent Dahmer documentaries What do you think anons?
No. 1427034
>>1426967Not a single word of that is an "admission" of anything, it's all common knowledge. The point of a vaccine is to give you the same immunity that you'd get from having the disease, without having to have the disease. The benefits of having a vaccine instead of the actual disease are: lower chance of hospitalization, almost zero chance of death or complication, less recuperation time needed to recover, and you don't spread the disease. It's the same reason we have a vaccine for the flu or chicken pox.
Can anyone explain why schizos are so stupid?
No. 1427171
>>1427045Speaking of the satanic panic of the 80s, whether or not the interviewed children were telling the truth about flying or whatever, McMartin daycare was fucked up. The FBI released the blueprints for the place
buried inside the FOIA'd info on The Finders Cult. The tunnels underneath were real: they were dug with shovels, they had animal bones littered about them, and signs that they had been recently used. While there was a lot more, the thing that fucked me up the most about that place was that the fire alarms were active, but not connected to the local fire department, implying that they were used as an in-house warning system.
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What the fuck is this I'm scared
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>>1427034do you live under a fucking rock lmao? i swear every vaxtard i knew got covid either for the first time or AGAIN
after their special little shots. every day i wake up grateful as fuck that i never took that shit no matter how much pressure, shame and antagonism i received, considering how everyone who took it seems to be slowly falling apart. seeing more and more True Believers slowly admitting things like "i had my period nonstop for 6 months after the vax why do you think that is?" hmmm why DO you think that is?
the injured cannot sue. they get dismissed more often than not and receive no compensation. scroll thru any of the number of @jab_injuries_(insert country) pages on Instagram or pages like @realnotrare, behold the twitching and seizing and crippled and clotted vaccine injured, tell me every single one of them is straight up lying. take a shot every time one of them says "the doctors have no idea whats wrong with me and can't help/refuse to help." why the fuck cant the medical professionals help these people?? oh yeah because it's untested technology! maybe we should have thought abt that before injecting it.
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Nonners, I have a great question for you all:
What is the scariest conspiracy theory you've ever seen/read? I'm talking something that made you genuinely fearful, disturbed or made you a little bit scared to sleep later that night.
I want to hear your scary theories.
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>>1423474I almost admire how committed she is to protecting her image and bullshitting
No. 1427664
>>1427620This is a creepy one for me too. Anything involving elusive entities about a lot of which isn't known. looking into the hollywood stuff (which honestly isn't that conspiratorial but if you mention it in any other thread they'll flip) makes me a little less scared, but the world is a hellscape
>>1427658Anything about cults is incredibly harrowing, thinking about how many people died under them. aum shinrikyo stuck with me the most for no reason. There are worse cults but that's the one that clings onto me
No. 1427666
>>1427658I talked about this last thread, where people talked about how
there was a random page in the files about Mc martin preschool and tunnels under the school That shit literally had me pause the video and take a deep breath. Scared the shit out of me.
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I don't even know what to say, I wanted to give the benefit of doubt and hope they would say it was “brilliant” in showing how evil and disgusting pedophiles are but no its mostly just a
victim play about how poor pedos are mistreated in society, this isn't a tinfoil anymore, they actually want to normalize pedophilia
>Take a deep breath and try to ruminate calmly on the position playwright Bruce Norris takes in his scintillating new play, “Downstate”: that the punishments inflicted on some pedophiles are so harsh and unrelenting as to be inhumane.>Are you still reading? It’s almost impossible to broad-brush the perspective at the heart of this impeccably acted drama without sounding as if one is advocating some extraordinary level of consideration for individuals who have committed unspeakable crimes. And yet Norris proposes a variation on this proposition at off-Broadway’s Playwrights Horizons: He is questioning what degree of compassion should society fairly hold out to those who have served their time for sexual abuse, assault or rape.>“Downstate,” directed with exceptional astuteness by Pam MacKinnon, seizes on our reflexive response to these crimes and shifts our emotional focus to the perpetrators. Living together in a group home in downstate Illinois, their movements monitored electronically (and their windows broken by irate vandals), four men of diverse age and backgrounds eke out marginal existences in menial jobs and managed routines..>as the predators who’ve completed their prison terms are depicted not as monsters but rather as complicated, troubled souls. Felix (Eddie Torres) is a taciturn loner, keeping to himself in a screened-off alcove. Gio (Glenn Davis) is a smarmy operator with a job at a local office supply superstore. Dee (K. Todd Freeman) is a clearheaded ex-stage performer who is fiercely protective of the oldest resident, wheelchair-bound Fred (Francis Guinan), a onetime piano teacher of serene disposition.>There’s no sweeping under the threadbare rug in “Downstate” of the heinous offenses for which the men have been severely punished. We learn about what each of them has done, and we are in effect asked to judge for ourselves what magnitude of ongoing torment each deserves. It develops here as an agonizing moral question, one that our retributive correctional culture would rather not have to debate. And it is made even thornier by the drama’s most disagreeable character, a victim of Fred’s, now grown up and portrayed all too irritatingly well by Tim Hopper.>Hopper’s Andy arrives at the home with his misguidedly encouraging wife Em (Sally Murphy) to confront Fred. The playwright cannot hide his scorn for Andy, who has made a successful life for himself as a Chicago finance guy and now seems intent on some kind of purging reunion with the man who molested him as a child on a piano bench. The meeting seems to be part of Andy’s therapy, which “Downstate” implies may be advisable but at this point also suggests that it is an indulgent marinating in self-pity.>We are meant to note the chasm in Andy and Fred’s circumstances and the perhaps overlong gestation of Andy’s desire for that suspect experience, “closure.” Fred’s loss of mobility came about after he was set upon and beaten brutally in prison. Context is all, for as Andy stumbles through a recitation of his psychic pain and suffering, we have the physical evidence of the price that Fred has already paid. Norris’s juxtaposition in this regard feels cheap. There was a way, I think, to acknowledge the damage that’s been done to Andy without judgmentally minimizing it.>Some theatergoers no doubt will resent that Norris chose to illuminate this delicate subject in a nuanced way that doesn’t jibe with their own undiluted revulsion. If you suspect you are one of these people, “Downstate” is not for you. For many others, it will be a stunning demonstration of the power of narrative art to tackle a taboo, to compel us to look at a controversial topic from novel perspectives. It’s been the job of drama to accomplish this since the days of Henrik Ibsen, who in plays such as “A Doll’s House” and “Ghosts” executed headlong dives into issues that splintered the foundations of conventional wisdom.>Ibsen gave us, for instance, the now-classic tale of a 19th-century housewife, suffocating under the alienating control of a domineering husband, and another about a Norwegian household thrown into turmoil by venereal disease. The topics made the playwright both an admired and notorious figure. It’s harder these days to shock an audience into an exploration of an issue with that same degree of flammability. But Norris achieves it on this occasion.>“Downstate” is proof positive that you can love a play that turns you inside out.https://www.washingtonpost.com/theater-dance/2022/11/23/downstate-bruce-norris-pedophiles/ No. 1428245
>>1428242I got a ban and called a newfag by a mod, they seemed like irrational as fuck and denied my appeal even though I asked on meta and checked for an existing thread. I'm a regular on the MTF threads and it feels super fucky
something is retarded more than usual up in here, I swear 4chan has more reasonable bans
guess they infiltrated another/one of the last remaining women's spaces.
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>>1428233Saw this redtext post >>>/ot/1427371 where what I assume is the tranny janny, ignores the unofficial rules and puts a Kaomoji on the post which is obviously meant in an joking matter and I'm just speechless at how unprofessional behaviour
Lolcow moderation staff should be an example and at least have some lines that shouldn't be crossed. Like why are you shitposting when you could moderate threads and rule breaking, I was on lolcow shortly after this happen and browsed a couple of boards and immediately saw a couple of things that would warrant a ban, I know that there won't always be a redtext it is just that there are so many of newfags that desperately needs to be reprimanded and suffer through glorious hellweek and instead tranny janny does this…
>>1428245>>1428267Glad to see that others are also experiencing this, as an "oldfag" I a made post in a correct thread and everything, got banned but other farmers who had been discussing the same topic else where did not.
No. 1428284
>>1428233Yeah things are changing here, I can feel it. I've always been open about being born and raised Jewish and how critical I am of the religion yet the last time I spoke out against it I got banned for racebaiting. Even other anons in the thread noted it was odd. I've also noticed that infighting and off-topic blogposting is barely punished now. Mods are clearly online a lot to ban people for weird stuff like
>>1428267 but won't reinforce basic rules. It's almost like they want this place to tank.
No. 1428294
>>1428290yep. it's either moids or worse, troons aka moids larping as women. can't decide which is worse.
also them fucking ignoring us in /meta/ speaks volumes. you have one job farmhands.
No. 1428304
>>1428290>>1428294I've seen a lot of male syntax lately and… nothing happens. You can spot them because they're usually openly bigoted and say meme shit like "never gonna make it". They try posting in the lesbian thread on /g/ from time to time which is laughable when they think saying shit like "I miss my gf slutting me out" is gonna fly under anyone's radar, kek.
>>1428301Social media is one big CCTV network so it makes sense to me that feds would want to weed out those of us who avoid social media and hang out on message boards and forums. If anyone protests they can just say "but this false flag "shooter" posted on 4chan!" and sheeple will be fine with it.
No. 1428310
>>1426137>>1426245that's me!! I'm compiling what I can, it might take me a bit. I didn't bother at the time but now I gotta retrace my steps and I'm finding more and more the more I look. once you see it it's all so obvious.
I might rock up with the info looking like the threadpic though but I'll try and come through! I'll make a google doc or some shit soon.
No. 1428427
>>1427572Off the top of my head:
SIDS is just a cover up for mothers killing their children. I know it's parroted by misogynists and probably untrue, but it still spooked me.
No. 1428489
>>1428427and "S.A.D.S" is a cover up for the covid vaccine causing heart and blood clotting problems in healthy young people (long story short) but god forbid the truth be told
(sads is SUDDENT ADULT DEATH SYNDROME since the vaccine but yeah totally cool chill neat keen and groovy it's all fine they would NEVER cull us to keep the population under a certain amount and the georgia guidestones have NOTHING to do with it and the balenciaga/kim k shit is not a humiliation ritual at all keep looking down not up there is no truth in plain sight whatsoever)
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re; comics, tinfoil about bob saget
wasn't it known he was a creep and likely cheating on his wife with a sex worker when he died
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Julia fox made a video about the balenciaga, did a case of whataboutism and blatantly lied while doing it. now i don’t have an issue of people want to bring up the abuses in the Church because i whole heartedly believe they need to be talked about and abusers be held accountable, however i think it was inappropriate here and weird that she wanted to divert attention elsewhere.
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>>1428796she made another tik tok insulting people who say “hollyweird” she’s like “oh it’s just a men problem not just Hollywood.” Like no shit Sherlock, we know, the fact she's unwilling to acknowledge the actual abuse of children going on in her industry and doing just whataboutism really does confirm that she's either a moron or knows about the use and is keeping silent about it
No. 1428861
>>1428796>>1428797Of course she dislikes the term "Hollyweird", she's programmed to dislike it. It's no coincidence she dated Kanye briefly, one of the most obvious MK
victims (not defending his actions) in recent years.
No. 1428863
>>1427034i can't believe retards like you are still parotting this bullshit
>>1427391i had so many people arguing with me and angry at me for not getting the vaccine and then months later they end up admitting they regret it. My whole family + majority of extended family are unvaccinated and none of us have been sick like the vaxxed. My mom used to get her flu shot every year but something about the extreme push with the coivd vax made her question things.
No. 1428892
>>1427572for me it would be the one that is alternative astronomy and history and religion combined, where they say saturn used to be our sun but the planets moved etc with huge bolts of energy discharge or something like that (and that would explain saturn worship) just the idea that planets could have been in such a vastly different arrangement and the conditions on earth could change suddenly like that and kill the majority etc. When saturn was supposed to be the golden age i think? And then some continue on to say that TPTB are trying to bring back that age or something like that. I think this theory is the electric universe theory + interpreting mythology as history if i remember right. It's fun and scary to think about. Sorry I am explaining it really badly since it's been so long since i read about it.
On the topic of alternative astronomy tho, I also came across the tychos system, like the flat earthers they claim NASA is nothing but lies but they don't believe the earth is flat, but that the astronomer tycho and not galileo had the right idea.
I find the electric universe and static rather expanding universe theories compelling tho, oh expanding earth seems cool too. Not conspiracies i guess … well the scientific field could be full of intentional lies too but my knowledge of these isn't good enough to figure it out.
No. 1428906
>>1428892The old joke that NASA stood for "Never A Straight Answer" comes to mind when I think about stuff like this. I don't subscribe to any one theory on space as quite frankly I'm far too dumb for this shit. But I do think NASA lie a lot, when has a government agency
ever been straight with the public? There's definitely things we've never be told and probably things we'll never even contemplate about the universe.
No. 1429272
>>1428796Questions for Julia..
How you know for sure that no children were harmed during those photoshoots?
How are millions of children harmed
by the Church every day?
And pretty sure that people have been cancelling said Church for a while now.
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I’m the anon who found Sylvia Plath faked her death from reading Miles Mathis. I want to keep banging the drum to get anons to go and read him so they can figure out what’s really going on.
Mathis covers Jim Carey’s genealogy at the end of his paper on the Unabomber. For anons wondering why Carey keeps appearing in major productions every few years despite them flopping and despite him being/having become an unfunny ghoul, it’s because he was born mega rich and connected to begin with and lies about being from a more humble background than he actually is.
Look at that coffin Carey’s carrying in the photo upthread. It looks cheap, not the kind of thing a multi-millionaire would buy for someone he loved. I’d suggest it’s empty, and the funeral fake, and the lawsuit and the tales of his abusing her and her suicide a contribution to what Mathis refers to variously as the men-are-pigs project, the women-are-pigs project, and the split-the-sexes project, examples of which are serial killers, “true” crime, pornography, and transgenderism. White, who was still married to a scientologist (spook project, L. Ron was naval intelligence) named Mark Burton (peerage name) when she allegedly died, is taking an opportunity to fake her death and go pursue another intelligence project. They’re doing a bit for the sexual politics division of Operation Chaos.
Mathis refers to Hollywood as CIA theatrical division west, and ‘the news’ as CIA theatrical division east, saying that when you’re from the ruling families and can act (or are at least beautiful) you go to the former, and when you can’t act you go to the latter (think of Kyle Rittenhouse’s tears or Patsy Ramsey’s grief). It’s not really a big deal to switch between the two — the obvious recent big example is the Johnny Depp v. Amber Heard trial. Why are two multi-millionaires airing the most sordid details of their lives on television in Fairfax, Virginia, two feet from the literal CIA? They’re not. It’s a scripted drama performed for propaganda purposes. And why are you hearing so much about the death by suicide of a supposed nobody makeup artist from rural Ireland? Wouldn’t someone with the power and the means to keep this all out of the press do so (a question you should ask whenever you’re told about the rich and famous acting badly)? Why is White’s “funeral” attended by a former Irish minister? Jim Carey, star of ‘The Truman Show’, is performing in the real Truman Show.
White’s father is referred to as a ‘serviceman’ and a ‘digger’ and her mother a homemaker but the photos of her sister’s wedding in some of the stories on her death don’t look like the wedding of someone from a single-earner gravedigger’s family. There’s also some coy stuff from White’s family about taking comfort in the fact that she and her allegedly deceased father are together again — meaning he probably faked his death too. Articles about her death include a drop-in from LA assistant coroner Ed Winter, who I believe to be the present-day Thomas Noguci, coroner for Sharon Tate and many of the 20th century’s biggest fake deaths.
As for the ‘Satanism’ angle, Mathis argues that belief in the occult has been maintained long-term by the elites as a smokescreen for the activities of intelligence networks and agents. I’d suggest interested nonas read his papers on the Salem witch trials, Kabbalah and the occult, H. P. Lovecraft, Eustace Mullins, Jack Parsons, J.K. Rowling, and Robert Anton Wilson, but it’s a theme throughout his writing. Whenever you’re being asked to consider the occult as a cause of XYZ, you should should replace ‘occult’ with ‘intelligence’ (this is also what’s going on with ‘esoteric nazi’ nonsense). Given what the ruling class has tricked people into believing with their victims’ money, they don’t need to rape children in the name of Satan to feel powerful.
This is what Jacob Rothschild and Marina Abramovic smiling in front of ‘Satan Summoning His Legions’ is about, not the literal devil but the ability of intelligence networks that represent the interests of the owning classes to go out and trick people out of acting in their basic self-interest, even their most basic survival instincts, to control what they see and hear and read and perceive and believe, and thereby steer the outcome of any conflict in their favor. Although, given the nature of male sexuality, I don’t doubt that many ruling class males rape children anyway. There’s certainly no shortage of agents advocating for their ‘freedom’ to buy and sell sexual access to women’s and children’s bodies. But with the Balenciaga campaign and the Epstein case, pedophilia is being positioned as the elite’s real hidden crime because they know it will cloud out the rest of your critical thinking about their true crimes (faking history and the news and preparing the strippping-the-peasants-for-parts-based economy in their quest for immortality and so many other things).
No. 1429288
>>1428427it’s so scary, but as a mom, it is unbelievably stressful to take care of a baby. In the hospital right after you give birth they show you a video where they explain that you have to put the baby down if you’re overwhelmed and they keep crying and they’re inconsolable and go to another room and collect yourself. You get murderous thoughts when you hear a long lasting scream.
ie: thinking “I can’t listen to this anymore! I’m gonna put a pillow over this kid!” Or “I wanna throw him!” It’s probably taboo to talk about but you are also hormonal too so the stress on top of everything else can push you over the edge, so much that the hospital warns you about it. So glad my kid isn’t a baby anymore. I don’t miss those days that much, I like talking to him. I also think I’m a one and done type of gal cause babies are cute and all but just such a hassle! Whew.
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I mean the obvious answer is that he means he was jacking off and ruined his family, as in his marriage, but the way he's melting the fuck down gives me a real bad feeling the less obvious answer is that he was molested as a kid and that ruined family, as in him and his mom, and that's also why he's losing his fucking mind now
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>>1425615side note I don't think I've seen him have any open connections to some of these comics but I wonder if carrey has anything to do with the boys club regardless. considering he went back to the comedy store for sagets death special (which I can't seem to find on illegal streaming, can somebody help me find it outside of netflix)
I do hear about him and revenge porn though
No. 1429877
>>1429828>Also post-partum depression isn't realholy shit i'm glad someone has the same view as me on this. i think ppd
can be real because hormones do fuck you up but i'm willing to be a lot of women who "have ppd" are actually just realising the reality of having a child and how difficult it is especially if their scrote isn't pulling his weight in the home or doing the bare minimum looking after his child - which happens way more than we're willing to admit. the massive realisation that this isn't what you wanted/expected and the resentment of your pregnancy child isn't as socially acceptable as just blaming it on some obscure hormonal fluctuation.
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CEO(Francois Pinault) of Ba(a)lenciaga´s parent company also oens an art auction site(Christie) that sells child sculptures where they have genitals and anuses instead of noses and mouths and other deparved shit. Spoiler because NSFL.
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>>1429933These people are sick and deprived.
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>>1427045You might find this verse from the bible enlightening, Jesus called them out.
John 8:44-45
King James Version
No. 1430000
>>1429824I love how talking about how corrupt hollywood is gives you a TINFOILER label when a little researching shows that the hierarchy involving lawyers and hired goons is very real, but alas. i'm just in this thread knowing it'll get me shit elsewhere
well I'll be damned! it's almost as if it takes uncomfortable underlying problems and confronting them to incite change! and guess what, metoo hasn't done enough sans jailing one uggo producer and one washed up comedian jailed and acquitted on a technicality!
>b-but no we can't discuss the actual intricacies of hollywood >or any interesting theories>I have to talk about how ugly and fat said female celebrity is!!anyway I hope marty singer gets into a fiery auto wreck on the 405
>>1429708kek does that mean he's going to die soon
>>1429949I'm not sure whether saget actually touched them or not but they definitely went through some kind of childhood stardom trauma.
as for saggy himself the nature of his death was insanely bizarre. he was definitely with a sex worker or something
I'm sure his degenerate friends knew what he was doing and will never speak on it. Would be funny if one of the comics caved. The whole bore of it all is waiting for one fed up person to talk to topple some dominos!
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>>1430006Its not a coincidence at all
nonnie, they are almost full mask off now but the masses are asleep.
Vid related, Disney show joking about loving Satan on Disney+
No. 1430106
>>1429285kek I'm not sure I believe this peak schizoposting as there seems to be plenty of evidence that carrey didn't grow up rich including anecdotes from people who knew him as an asshole in school. I could buy him being into some freaky shit but this is excessive. well I guess this is the tinfoil
if carrey is indeed some kind of satanic panic warlock, then I by all means should be dead by now for badmouthing him the way I do. so why am I still alive girlies?? why am I still kicking??
No. 1430128
>>1430120Also to add to this - there is actually no rule on LC that tells men not to use the site. The rule is:
>Any posters with a phallus, do not come here for validation or to announce yourselves.So they just can't announce themselves
No. 1430178
>>1430159He threatened to kick a puppy on norm that was in the studio and went on some nonsense tangents about numerology, sexuality, and jesus? The "there is no meeee" thing reminds me of heavy depersonalization. the sense of worthlessness when he's not attached to a role. he's like a human black hole
also mocked his own std accusations by asking a crew member to drink from his coffee cup. ick
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every woman in this photo is an intelligence agent and the stories they're involved in fake/manufactured.
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>>1430247Not to mentiin the giant Shiva(god of destruction) sculpture at CERN . Its all just a joke silly anons!
No. 1430262
>>1430251Ok so first we need to find a nona who can knit so she can make us Jim Carrey voodoo dolls. I say dolls plural because we need to find multiple anons to send them to so we can stab him in the dick in shifts so he's in constant pain. It has to be a very coordinated operation with anons in different timezones to pull this off.
>>1430256Yeah that shit does give me pause. According to google there's only 50,000 Hindus in Switzerland so uhhh… what's up with that?
No. 1430282
>>1430239haven't done a deep dive into all of them, but they're collected in that image for a reason. but:
riley june williams –
http://mileswmathis.com/jan6.pdflindsay souvannarath – charged on valentine's day with a gamble as in proctor& and has comical boilerplate alt-right social media presence
brenda spencer – a spencer-churchill, dukes of marlborough
anna devlvey - an op to trick you into thinking the elites are easily fooled while actually they are fooling you about everything
isabella janke – parents are known spooks, she's just gone into the family business. chrischan is actually performance art/chaos op from, the bit about his mom being a descendant of anne boelyn and francis weston i think is true and i'd guess she was more than a secretary of whatever it's claimed at old dominion energy. dad's "military communcations". the jankes are probably connected to one of the forgotten fake patricide cases of the 80s, the case of richard and deborah jahnke.
andrea yates – all the major women-killing-their-children stories are faked, anons are right that post-partum depression is partially a meme. see this ted talk about diane downs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_6vDLq64gEthis is actually a spook repurposing this peerage actress' bad acting as a sign of psychopathy, having fun telling you how to detect a lie when actually she's selling an actually really bad one and is a psychopath herself as are all these people, though not for the reasons claimed. makes it easier for them to sell more bad peerage acting.
No. 1430286
>>1430269Shiva is literally the god of destruction(not only that but destructiin none the less), the dance her depicted performing on the statue is the dance of destruction.
“of Shiva's dance are the Lasya (the gentle form of dance), associated with the creation of the world, and the Ananda Tandava (dance of bliss, the vigorous form of dance), associated with the destruction of weary worldviews—weary perspectives and lifestyles. In essence, the Lasya and the Tandava are just two aspects of Shiva’s nature; for he destroys in order to create, tearing down to build again.”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natarajahttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiva No. 1430299
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>>1430286Made me think of this. The Beast 666 as he referred to himself loved Yoga and hinduism, weird.
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A bunch of crypto billionaires & millionaires have been found dead, one made a tweet (picr) and a day later he was found dead, drowned.
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No. 1430386
>>1430262I feel like there's part of me that's secretly clairvoyant but I can't nurture the energy under my mental health atm. its a plague of mosquitoes swarming at random. weird things have happened to that man the last nine months, all I can say, his asinine will smith comments cost him his "career"… unless it's all just another setup. he looks like a dead man walking so I figure he probably won't live more than the next ten years combining his substance abuse and diseases
jury's out in my mind on whether anything I feel like I've predicted is a coincidence or not. that is what scares me.
>>1430321I have trauma, psychosis and a tendency to dissociate, but it doesn't always activate my paranoia. an action has to
trigger the uneasy feeling. remember, early female psychiatry relied on hysterics and was grounded in sexist assumptions about women. the human mind is curious. if anything a traumatized woman is likelier to sniff smoke where there's fire
while I don't buy into everything posted itt it's not irrational to assume hollywood or government agencies have coverups. absolute power corrupts and men in power thrive on their extortion of women and children. they prey on what they consider the weaker.
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>>1430386I also have trauma, I'm diagnosed with PTSD. I think you're right that it does put us in a position where we're more likely to pick up on things. My whole life I've trusted my gut reaction to people, if my gut tells me something's off with them then I avoid them and the amount of times I was proven right is kinda freaky. Like, I'm also autistic so I
should be very bad at reading people but there's just something in me - something probably stemming from that trauma - where I can read most people like an open book. Men especially; but working out that most men are shit is hardly a gift. It's just statistically very likely to be true kek.
No. 1430407
>>1430363Anon upthread is correct that aliens are a CIA hoax. This guy trying to sell us on beings that are like "lovecraftian great old ones" who "see us as we see an ant" is just describing the way the psychos who rule the planet see everyone else. The definitely have a drawing board plan and the hubris for some kind of fake alien invasion and this guy is partially just trying to soften people up for it. Also trying to scare you with AI making you irrelevant which is also at bottom hot air. Do you really think Sam Harris and this fat canadian nerd know the future?
More on H.P. Lovecraft as an authority on anything:
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>>1429285That rabbit hole is hella deep but these people use Satan and other demonic beings for their own purposes, it’s not a psyop imo. Who knows what really goes down in those trillionaires’ eyes wide shut parties
No. 1430479
>>1430234I could buy Bella Janke since her dad’s a glowie,
maybe the chick who stole Nancy Pelosi’s laptop and
maaaybe the chick who hated mondays but Andrea Yates?? All that bitch did was drown her kids in the tub because muh postpartum depression and not wanting to be her husband’s gestation vessel, that’s not very glowie.
No. 1430489
>>1430394by the way nona if you're the meme upthread I also experience hallucinations on and off. when I was medicated I discarded my ssris. they are clinically shown to help few patients. mood stabilizers and a non invasive anti anxiety were a vast improvement, but then I lost my insurance. ssris poisoned me from a young age but I was lucky to chuck them for a few before I lost my marbles!
in early march I hit rock bottom. during a psychotic self mutilation fit I conjured an audiovisual hallucination of jim carrey. by that point I had inflicted an awful lot of damage. he tried to berate me to death. nobody would have found my corpse for days had I caved to the illusion's demands. every crevice of his face and his body projected like an otherworldly evil. It took all the power I had not to choose death and I had to yell to drown out his sneering until my throat was hoarse. it was so real. it was awful beyond reproach or repair
I kept running into coincidences surrounding him until the oscars incident. so it was pure catharsis to see his downfall, but it will never sit right. I look back with mental clarity, a disfigured body and mind, and it does not sit right.
Some things I guess we'll never know. I hate that fucker.
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>>1430441No need to be rude. It was referencing this, obviously.
No. 1430580
>>1430479Yates' maiden name is Kennedy, and her mother is a Koehler - the wiki for the name Koehler lists an industrialist, a general, a naval officer (navy is home of intelligence), and an investigator on the Lindbergh kidnapping, which was also fake, among many other notables.
One of the major projects of the ruling class is destroying religion, any mass morality that would interfere with the commodification of everything. Writing a story where Yates is a
victim of religious morality poisons it in the viewer's mind.
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>>1430234my girl jodi is a queen how dare you
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>>1430441How ironic. Its referencing this you fucking smooth brain, go back to LipstickAlley yourself or atleast try to keep up.
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>>1430570I'm quite certain it is Miles. Check out this incel tier complaint from his article on Ted Bundy. While his Manson/Tate conspiracy holds water, a lot of his serial killer work is based on "ackshully most men aren't this evil, only glowies are bad and they don't want you to date men (like me uwu) and be happy!" which is just plain retarded. Every single woman in this thread will have at least one story of an evil moid they've encountered that was undeniably real and not a fucking psyop. This is probably the only way women will talk to him tbh.
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>>1430269So they are indians involved that very much know what Shiva represents(destruction of the world and rebuilding it again), that just further sements the point that its fucking strange does it not? Also adding to the weird mock ritual they performed right infront of it as a “joke”.
https://www.macaubusiness.com/two-women-killed-as-human-sacrifice-in-india/ No. 1430944
>>1430828I swear men are controlled by their dicks
He sounds like every typical dude
>catcalling isn't real>women in workplace bad>she won't suck MY dick No. 1430959
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>>1430944>looks like this>thinks it's the CIA's fault he can't get a dateIncredible.
No. 1431114
>>1430496Yeah, the guy has an entire section on his website dedicated to pictures of himself and his family with his real name and personal info. If he really was the only one exposing the truth as he claims he would know better than that.
>>1430282What about the girl who stabbed her host boyfriend?
No. 1431186
>>1431126I also find it nasty how he's claiming cat's death is fake. the reason why carrey wouldn't pay for an expensive funeral box was because he never loved her.
its an insult and what she underwent. what was admitted was just the truths that are left unspoken about these actors abusing civilian women into mental ruin. there's also drugs galore and degenerate antics happening constantly. circle of life in the industry is brutal. so this poor normie makeup artist enters the industry full of starry ambitions and then is entangled with a degenerate coomer comic who robbed her of her love for life
he may have murdered her with his bare hands or had her whacked for knowing too much. he's got his fingers in some unsavory pies to keep himself afloat, given his relationship with the oligarch who is known for criminal activity and he's known since the early 00s, where his reputation began to seem too clean, sans the anti vax stuff.
he was known for sexual harassment as far back as 1998, but the publication attempting to publish the allegations was thwarted at the height of truman show. he was too big a star to take down back then, but plentifully opportunity has arisen in recent years and nobody has taken it
his team pays journalists to write articles about his peak films, they also use bots, likely russian in origin, to both upvote positive engagement and bury detractors. carrey is not the only celebrity who does this. this is a new age pr technique that was unmasked thanks to johnny depps team and adam waldman flagrantly admitting it
No. 1431218
>>1430828How hard can this guy tell on himself? Those women were using Manson/Bundy as an excuse to get away from a creep. Look at his papers and see how many of them claim a woman's death was faked. He's trying to claim women's savage murders at the hands of men never happen, its all a ruse to make women distrustful. And who's the real
victim? Nice guys like him. He's a pathetic misogynist.
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>LOOK AT THIS PDFFF
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does anyone have any recs for UFO/abduction/alien documentaries or books? i'm having a hard time finding anything serious even though i know hard proof and documentation is out there. not interested in starseed or new age shit and i don't want to watch another retard sperging about how he was abducted and aliens jacked him off and harvested his sperm (unless he's got proof ofc). or if anyone have any info on aliens in general and wants to lay it on me that would be great. i have had personal experience with ufos myself if anyone is curious.
No. 1431945
>>1429708this is the only relevant comment itt so far. It's weird how people still believe this goofy shit,
at this point.
No. 1432224
>>1432205The spiritualist phase is a PR move for a lot of these people. The rich cannot be zen when they are narcissist dolls up to their eyes in consumption. Either it's a PR reinvention or a recruitment tactic of some sort, but who's paying clownass for his spirituality, unless he uses it as a segue to convince you to attend his $10,000 art show to buy his $60,000 blood canvas painting?
A lot of celebrities have been so ravaged by substance abuse and drugs that they reprogram themselves by stealing a new personality every few years. Either someone around them or a role written for them. It's designer mental disorder kek
No. 1432441
>>1432224Spirutalism(lets be real its hinduism) is anything but woke, people are starving and denied help in India because they belive that poor people deserve everything bad(karma) that happens to then because they were “bad” in a previous life, tourists have been shamed for trying to help these people by hindus in India. I mean its judt the religion for them when you think about it, people like this see poor people as useless eaters most of the time and that we deserve it, very “hindu” of them.
>>1432205 Good question, hindu practises are being shilled hard in the west for some reason but packaged as something else (Yoga as an excersice fx, when its a deeply spiritual practice)
No. 1432503
>>1432383As someone who watched him for a long time I don't think carrey looking for redemption. I don't think he feels guilt at all. When the lawsuit concluded he took down all posts related to his girlfriend's death including his "tribute". Appealing to the herd as a non threatening art boy seems to be the goal, it's the abuser's playbook 101. If he were at all less narcissistic and less stupid he wouldn't have challenged Will Smith enough to be roasted in public for it, unless that was also premeditated!
>>1432441Actually a good point. It's used an excuse by the successful to say fate favors them and then gives poor saps the idea they'll succeed if they abide by them. Then those hopefuls are crushed when nothing happens. I find manifestation and astrology fun and sometimes accurate, but spirituality and religion as a whole is definitely not bible and won't guarantee success in life. Very few people ever succeed according to their aspirations
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>>1432441>>1432503Its also worth noting that hinduism and still has never been one unified religion, what most westerners get is a sect mostly found in the Ganges region, its similar to how diverse buddhism was(and still us)
for e.g Hellenic Buddhism, that was at one time the state region of modern day Pakistan and Afghanistan, picrel is Hercules depicted as a guardian of the Buddha
No. 1432767
>>1431678Linda Moulton Howes' two books: Glimpses of Other Realities volume 1 and 2. All of Dr. Karla Turners books.
Not sure if I've shared this before but this site:
https://bibliotecapleyades.net/default.htmis great for fans of conspiracies of all kinds.It's not a modern site so its set up is rather old fashioned, but it's huge and you could spend days just clicking on links, going down rabbit holes. Tons of alien/ufo topics there, plus all kinds of other "conspiracy" topics.
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>>1428796Of course she says this. She's one of them.
I'm so sick of pedo enabler reddit atheists (in this case satanist) redirecting to the already well-known crimes in the Church. As if we can't care about both. As if one isn't using the other to distract from themselves
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>>1427572>What is the scariest conspiracy theory you've ever seen/read? That the world is ran by satanic cultists, vid rel. It honestly explains so much - like why the media is trying so hard to normalize pedophilia, why the government seems to actively fuck us over in so many ways, why the legal system doesn't care about the little people, why little kids go missing in such shocking numbers, why satanic imagery is prevalent in all forms of media, why freemasonry has satanic elements the higher up you are, etc. I could go on and on. And what's most disturbing to me is the human farming aspect of it. There's been countless interviews with people who escaped these cults, and it's all just so disturbing what they have to say.
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There's this theory that the "uncanny valley" originated as an unconscious fear our ancestors developed for an already extinct species, a "being" so dangerous and eerie humans still fear its features to this day. Apparently, this thing kinda looked like us but something was very off, maybe because it wasn't really a human to begin with
No. 1433226
>>1433206This is it for me too. I've been into conspiracies since I was about 12 and I've always heard about Satanists but never fully believed we were ruled by them. After so many years of them popping up in so many conspiracies, I think it's unfortunately true. It was after reading about Haut de la Garenne in Jersey that it hit me. (
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jersey_child_abuse_investigation) The whole island of Jersey has rumours of Satanists living there with weird fucking statues and ominous gatherings, and the fact that the police there were so corrupt they had to bring in officers from mainland England to investigate things was not a good sign. Not that the other officers did much, of course. There were bone fragments found on the premises, cupboards with handcuffs that were said to be used for solitary confinement, a fucking PIT OF LIME in a room, but hey! Totally normal children's home stuff! I felt physically sick reading what the
victims went through and how some reported it
decades prior. I feel like the police waited for a lot of the perpetrators to die tbh. The investigation was nothing more than a vanity project so they could say "hey, we tried!".
No. 1433426
>>1433342Wait could you please elaborate more
nonny? I found this theory intersting but I dont fully get it
No. 1433470
>>1433342Would love to get a further explanation on this too.
I know some schizos and it’s weird how they all talk about conspiracies. Carl Jung said that once a schizophrenic patient citied an ancient text BEFORE the text was discovered. Maybe they crossed the border and have access to the ultimate truth and not their own truth anymore or something?
I list some stories I was told from schizophrenia patients for anyone curious. 1. They hide cameras in my home to make me crazy. They choose me because I’m a drug addict and no one will believe me. 2. they sa’d me as a kid and filmed it and they play the video on national tv it looks like a regular horror movie. And Disney stole my movies I would be rich but they stole it and now I’m poor and everyone thinks I’m crazy.
I’m sure there is more I have in my head but memories are blurry as I myself was in schizophrenic conditions at that time.
No. 1433569
>>1433427Last I remember hearing about it in the mainstream was the use of sniffer dogs being criticised because they didn't help much with Madeline McCann's case either (which is odd because what they found in that case heavily implicate the parents). It's so brazen of TPTB to just take it off the news like that. Like damn, they're not even
trying to hide what it was, it's went straight to the memory hole.
>>1433342AYRT and I'm gonna be honest with you, nona. I'm thick as pig shit and I don't fully understand the concept you're talking about but I would genuinely love for you to elaborate on it because I've been looking at my "illness" from a different perspective lately.
>>1433470When I was hanging out with weirdos I met on /x/ I heard the "crossing the border/piercing the veil/lifting the curtain" thing a lot. There was this one guy with schizophrenia who actually believed we were shamans. He says it's a power that goes back to the ancients and we're "seers" and all this stuff. I guess in a similar vein to autism it can make people more analytical? But I ain't no shaman. I also got told by another schizophrenic that she and I were "chosen" because we were drug addicts as it makes us unreliable narrators. I think it's interesting how that's such a persistent belief. I know drug use can
trigger psychosis but it's odd how so many of us arrived at the point of "oh it's because people won't believe me". Another patient told me they got ripped off after inventing the can opener and to this day I still feel bad for laughing at him but it was so outlandish and bizarre. A lot of people have that belief about SA assault though, not the national tv part but the belief that it was filmed and will be used to harm them in somehow. Cameras in general are a huge source of paranoia, I think living in such an age of technological advance is hugely detrimental to schizos. With CCTV and smart phones and 5G and the internet it's just too much. Maybe I should be living thousands of years in the past as a shaman. Telling my fellow villagers that our goats are about to conceive and we should gift the neighbouring village a male kid to avoid conflict or whatever. Maybe that would be the most calming kind of life for my brain to handle.
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>>1433219I get a grossed out and sick feeling looking at obviously inverted people. It's probably just another made up cover for that.
No. 1433962
>>1433922Uh oh
Also there's a lawsuit against Web Archive. And old articles (like just few years old) disappearing.
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Things that make you go hmm
No. 1434938
>>1434907Samefag and let me explain. When the people in charge want to expand categories you have to suspect shady things. There it used to be subtypes of schizophrenia by type of delusion. But now it's all the same. The beggars who bark in the street and the /x/ posters have the same diagnosis as if they were the same thing. When a category becomes so big and vage it becomes meaningless. And you can trown anything you want on it, because it doesn't mean shit. I've seen actual survivors of gangstalking being diagnosed as schizophrenic because they feared that it would again (Spoiler gangstalking is very real and it happened in plenty of places. Just google around
whatever country you want state terrorism. That's literally gangstalking. And that's the tip of the iceberg)
Schizophrenia is real but it has lost its meaning. And sometimes they even trown some
victims of fucked up shit because no one cares anymore.
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>>1433956Doing super cool "wizard alchemy" while pregnant to masculinize a female embryo/fetus or feminize a male one. It's how you get in the club (any of them). When it happens naturally I don't call them inverts though. Maybe the ones who hang out here would share more about it?
introductory video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdLPe7XjdKcDr. Seuss is one of the most illuminating occult writers of the 20th century, for some reason. I just looked up his 'real' name and it's an an anagram for "storehouses" so probably just documenting the times.
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And we should feel bad for this fucker’s country getting wrecked, why?
No. 1436855
>>1436847its not his country hes protecting, its oil and personal interests. he'd easily have most of his country die for it if he could, all while playing the
victim and demanding billions more in aid
No. 1436869
>>1436864Nope, go back a couple of unconventional attractions threads and it's all there.
>>1436847My question is that there are so many countries being invaded and wrecked by westerners and corrupt officials they buddy up with yet nobody cares about them… oh wait, we all know why everyone only cares about Ukraine.
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I asked a while ago why new-yorkers are so weird (ime) and got no answer but I think the answer is simple. NYC specifically is a humongous city and many important people live or frequent there. It would make anyone with any sort of predisposition to mental illnesses insecure, which metamorphoses into illusions of grandeur or finding unhealthy ways to soothe their ego/differentiate themselves
No. 1437443
>>1437426>>1437428My wife was partially raised in New York and said it's truly a concrete jungle where people are animals. I'm prone to mental health fuckery but it
always gets worse if I'm in a city. There's something about the mindset in cities, most people are cold and disinterested. Like, I'm disabled. I use a walking stick and before that a wheelchair and city people will just barge past you for no good reason. No "sorry", no concern, no nothing. Pure selfishness runs through these people's blood. I don't believe every person in a city is bad, but I think if you stay in them too long they'll fuck you up one way or another. I do wonder if it's something to do with nature because since I started camping and doing more stuff out in nature I've felt my mind healing. It's gotta fuck us up on a caveman level to live the city life.
No. 1437719
>>1437678Thank you, it’s a curious theory.
Personally I see the tranny stuff is definitely connected to this. Like, they strive for some “holy androgyny” but achieve cursed results of course,
Androgyny has been a topic of various myths and philosophical ideas. But it seems like it was never to be taken literally, it is rather a metaphorical reference to balance of “feminine” and “masculine” psychological traits, inner balance, achieving state of balance and development. But of course this was also taken by sexual deviants and those who want to develop through abuse of others and exploitation.
And of course there is a thing, if someone thinks of an “ideal” human state, should other things be sacrificed to achieve that state faster? Certainly some dubious occult practitioners would like it that way. That’s just my personal take on it. That they are so fixated on their ideas of higher state they will not stop from any weird stuff to get there.
No. 1437724
>>1437495>>1437506No worries, nona. You get used to being a second class citizen pretty quick if you're visibly disabled. There are some lovely people left out there, but I've noticed they're usually older. Not to sound like a boomer, but kids these days have zero fucking manners. Like it actually astounds me the shit I see kids get away with in front of their parents. Good point about men though. City women are still kinda dickish but they're not like, full blown psycho mode. I used to think as an autist I was at risk of becoming uncaring and cold like a man, but even us female spergs have something in us, that… idk, basic human deceny and empathy - even if it's not much empathy, it's still there. The Y chromosome truly is a worse disability to have, kek.
>>1437678There's definitely something weird going on with the elites and androgyny. Doesn't baphomet literally have tits despite being referred to as "he"? The devil being MTF would make a lot of sense tbh.
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I don't want to post this in a conspiracy thread because this is not a conspiracy it's the actual truth but I know if I posted this in the vent thread anons would tell me to go here instead so here I am face recognition AI technology is harmful for women because
>It makes it easier for men to create revenge porn and deep fakes of women
>It makes it easier for men to track random women down and stalk them
the goal of those programs like picrel is to train these AIs and make them better at recognizing faces so it will be easier for them to do those things I mentioned earlier. It's horrifying that I'm seeing so many women playing around with these AIs. Are they not aware that in the end women are the ones who will get harmed by this?
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>>1438176>>1438187nta but I think she's referring to the fact that due to nutritionary restrictions pre-Columbian natives were far shorter then most Europeans, it was only those natives who were in the central plains who had accesses to a more protein rich diet that were quite tall
for e.g the average male apache was noted to stand at 5'3, which was short even for the time period, while the average Lakota man was comparable to a scandinavianin in terms of height
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>>1437117It's a big club and you have to be some kind of gender bender to get in. That can mean intersex, inverted or just being an old fashioned tranny. If you see the symbol of the phoenix, owl, laurel wreath, snail, lion, unicorn, sun, crescent moon or caduceus you can bet it's Magna Mater Tranny Club.
The ones who live among muggles have genitals matching their declared sex. So if you grew up with them like I did, you wouldn't know they were any different until you both reached adolescence and they became unpleasant, weirdly competitive and arrogant liars. Being friends with an invert as a child is similar to dynamic between characters in "The Fox and the Hound" or more recently, "Let the Right One In". It's great as young children but eventually very confusing for both invert and muggle since they're spending so much time with a person of the opposite sex, who has the appearance of having the same sex. As much as I find the off-batches unappealing, they do turn out beautiful sometimes or at least we've been conditioned to see them that way. I'm irrevocably attracted to female-presenting Jessica Paré-looking inverts due to where I'm from in Canada and who I grew up with and not very happy about that. Also invert families can use a lot of topical hormones which are terrible for muggle children so not great hanging out there all the time.
>>1437678That's meee. Although inverts do imitate my posting style sometimes to make my claims sound even more bizarre. You can't judge a club member by skeleton alone anyways. It's probably more like 1. Use of symbolism 2. Physical qualities and 3. Family background/career.
>>1437719It started off that way but now muggles tend to be the ones actually seeking balance, enlightenment and going through the descent/ascent procession that originally connected their "illuminated" ancestors to the Goddess. Or more recently, the supremely talented artists, actors, musicians, poets, storytellers in general that united the so-called sacred and profane. Most inverted children could never approach these concepts beyond intellectual reason because they've become a spoiled and spiritually blind class.
I keep coming back hoping that my muggle crew will have broken free from worrying about silly invert-planted feedback loops. Most of their rumours are just sheep-herding. I agree it is necessary, especially with all these males around. However I know anxious nonnies hang out here and I don't want them to be stressed all the time, the way I used to be. I don't recall Cybele being the goddess of low-effort, non-stop lies and bullshit? I wouldn't want to be represented by lying and increasingly unappealing trannies. Let's step it up a bit, holy shit guys.
No. 1438323
>>1438027I am now ruing the time I used faceapp
>>1438204from what I heard from someone who works with AI, image AI and video AI typically segment pictures into fragments and don't save the full photographs to where users of these programs can access them, mostly because it would take up too much space. Not that im sure I believe that…
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wow it's almost as if his small flock of stan sheep became aware for five seconds that politics are entirely performative to the misogynist who killed his girlfriend
No. 1439257
>>1438356Has to keep up the ~any pronouns~ act. She definitely knows.
>>1439014Wouldn't be surprised if they got off to it. I have an idea, but it'd sound like a fedpost.
No. 1439467
ok i fr never considered anti-vax shit or whatever,,, but i;m starting to think back on the past two years and feel like shit is not good.
like my dad, he had clean bill of health his whole life nothing wrong. just months b4 covid vax came out he received clean bill of health for his heart–no signs of any blockage etc. whatever. they told him he had the heart of a young man. he's been a vegetarian/vegan his ENTIRE LIFE! never eats red meat.
and then he got the jab early 2021, then fall of 21, had a literal near heartattack which required 3 stents to be put in his heart.
also various other ppl his age he knows have also had this bizzare heart attack think almost happen to them, requiring operations.
and for me personally, ever since i had the vaccine– my period has been excruciating every fucking month, at one point i thought i had appendicitis, but apparently it was ovarian cyst. like i've been reading how this shit has fucked up everyone's menstrual cycles so bad. i never had such painful periods until recently.
noone in my family caught covid until this year 2022. its just so suspicious to me. i feel like we're not being told the truth.
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>>1438292It's not new but I can't tell you how long it's been going on since who knows what our real timeline looks like. When you learn to read their symbolism and identify Magna Mater, you'll see it everywhere, past and present.
Not mess with their physical characteristics, fundamentally change who they are and should have become. They don't write down the recipes or ever speak publicly or even out loud. It's communicated through images, like Splendor Solis by Salomon Trismosin (1532). This guide can be interpreted and meaningful to anyone under the cult umbrella but inverts have family to guide them through it.
It likely started when alchemists began inducing freemartinism in female fetuses by taking testosterone. Then eventually, preventing males from forming penises. So we're talking about a
female being born with a penis and raised as a boy or
a male with underdeveloped genitals being raised as a girl. The males with vaginas are prob a more recent development and created with a weakened strain of birth defect drug thiamine. That's just a guess though, thiamine seemed like a mass experiment to benefit inverts, when you know how they operate.
Some are born "naturally" or free from outside intervention via a family line of inverts. Natural freemartins are born to some families genetically. This can all be verified in other mammals. If the family is illuminated/legion as well, they'll be revered by those who achieved balance through artificial means. The most important breakthrough in Magna Mater world has been allowing inverts to go back to their intended sex but I'm not sure if that's legitimate or to scare off muggles. They never let it end up well.
The inverts here are doing their usual "maybe she's a moid" routine so I guess we're getting close again. This is what I mean when I say their generation completely lacks creativity and good storytelling. The new gen thought they shouldn't have to entertain us, why bother? We'll just keep their cages rattled indefinitely, who needs to make an effort?
No. 1440158
>>1440123Bitchute
nonnie, jewtube censor everything
No. 1440484
>>1440003I like this question, the normal ones are more interesting to talk about. I get sick of analyzing the famous ones, although I do wonder if their caste doesn't get the early/in-utero inversion, maybe to add dimension to their art. You've probably seen the transvestigator images of tucked penises and upside down dildos in actor's pants. Also the fact that they admit to using fake genitals in movies since that's teasing the truth. I think that adds to the tragedy of their characters in film to inverts and they used to believe that suffering led to great rewards. Now they'd rather use their energy and hidden talents to compose hours-long video essays excusing their lack of work ethic and traditional sensibilities.
They absolutely do live among us and will allow muggles to enter pretty much every industry for the reasons you've mentioned. Muggles work among inverts in most professions, even film/tv. Where would inverts be without muggle hand/body extras? kek
In the past few generations became fully integrated, though they might always have been present in every muggle class and culture. There's a good chance you have invert friends or acquaintances and where you live determines what type of inverts you'll meet most often. I live in a university town so the inverts I've known are academic types but there are tons of rural and farmer inverts around too. They can be friendly, arrogant, aloof or very needy, I find they're really difficult to get rid of after you get to know them.
They seem to enjoy having a plebian companion and will always be the friend updating you on the news cycle and wearing current trends (worshipping famous trannies as well). I'm not sure if this is where the concept of a "handler" comes from but they definitely keep an eye on us and each other.
Although the majority of university professors are inverted, elementary and college have a pretty good mix of both. The silent generation put a lot of consideration and effort into blending muggles and inverts harmoniously but also recognizing each other's strengths and weaknesses.
Inverts are the ruling class so it is fundamentally their responsibility to maintain a healthy balance whether they "feel like it" or not. If this responsibility is no longer appealing or worthwhile, then time to surrender it back to the muggles imo. I believe the upper echelons have already figured this out. I've mentioned Brian Williams impromptu farewell address in other threads but posting again as this appears to be an authentic criticism and appeal to stop whatever's next. As the old "peacock" (phoenix) dies in ash, the new era is reborn.
The commoner inverts are in denial about this but the ruling class think there are too many of them. Not us, we've already been reduced. They've been allowed or encouraged to live like 1950s muggles with 2+ children and larger prioritized homes. That incentivized them for a while but obviously turned out to be a big mistake and the pyramid is top-heavy. During the last industrial revolution, muggles were encouraged to breed but everyone was better off, evidently. Inverts tend to be pretty flat and self-involved as a "culture", so they don't really make a society thrive, inspire innovation as they lack whatever "spark" muggles provide (that they deny).
They've become comfortable, overly-trusting and complacent. Probably why so many of them took the vax without question, assuming it was a muggle psy-op. Even with escalation of chronic illnesses, they still don't believe they were duped. Conspiracies have always been endless rabbit holes, meant to give plausible deniability to various invertisms, like "lizard people". Even controlled opposition inverts took the vax lol
tl;dr: Check out local office "About us" pages for employee group photos. The physical differences become a lot more noticeable as we age with them.
Not sure if muggles are allowed to be doctors or politicians though but those tend to be more obvious for some reason. Canada's House of Commons is pretty hilarious for obvious inverts.
No. 1440618
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>>1440587My detractors should remember the beloved parable of the Eagle (Phoenix) and the Crow. I copy and pasted this from an invert's motivation site so I'm not sure if this is the version you guys get as children so please correct whatever you disagree with. If any muggles reading this are interested in other invert childhood media, please check out the awful movie/series "The Phoenix and the Magic Carpet". They remake that one a lot.
The Parable of the Eagle and the Crow:
The only bird that dares to peck an Eagle is the Crow. He sits on his back and bites his neck. The Eagle does not respond, nor fight with the Crow;
it does not spend time or energy on the Crow. It just opens its wings and begins to rise higher in the heavens. The higher the flight, the harder it is for the Crow to breathe and then the Crow falls due to lack of oxygen…
Learn from the Eagle and don’t fight the Crows.
Just keep ascending. They might be along for the ride but they’ll fall off. The people who are talking behind your back or using you as the subject of their gossips are like the crows. They love to ride on you to rise higher but they will never keep up with your level of excellence.
*Anyways numberfag nonnies know what's up, inverted or muggle. My posts are truthful and the numbers always prove it.
No. 1441245
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Well it looks like I took the air out of the invert storytime thread. It's nice to see you lads behaving like your authentic selves again. Aggressive, unpleasant and with sex always on your mind. I guess since you're being so lovely, I should also share how inverts get nasty bacterial and yeast infections constantly, beginning in adolescence. If you've ever had a friend who just always seems to have a smelly vag or yeast issue, it might be an invert. They do shower, so it's some kind of hormonal disruption related to being boy-girls.
B.O is a HUGE problem for them too and sometimes smelly feet. I've known a female-presenting invert who could clear the room taking off her jacket and we were always aware of her vagina, due to the smell. The odor doesn't seem to bother them, the way men don't care if they stink.(XY FAILURE)
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>>144155444/55 - you know what that means kek
- or maybe you don't because your generation are pretty much esoterically illiterate. I guess the Inverts That Be figure it'd be a waste of time, considering their plans for you.
Also must suck when you can't rely on group rejection and censorship to stifle criticism from lowly muggles. Anyone reading this can see your reactions are weirdly aggressive and hostile. Accusing me of being a pedo is pretty standard invert behaviour, and this is what I mean when I say you guys have become both lazy
and boring.
Since I was only answering questions to begin with, why not learn from me and take the eagle path? Why completely shut down other tinfoil discussions? You're goading me into responding because you want to derail the topic.
I was very happy to ignore you all and only respond to questions but everything always shuts down when I try to participate in this thread and share my invert stories. If finishing schools still existed, you guys would be a lot more welcoming and convincing too.
No. 1443750
>>1441626I believe you nona, I enjoy your little truth drops. that's what this thread is for?
these replies telling you to fuck off is the strange thing to me.
(are you drake-is-a-woman poster? if so hey girl same lmao)
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Seeing the list of directors and big name actors who defended 120 of sadom, was the thing that convinced me that Hollywood is completely filled with perverted rapists at the top
and I don't buy the bullshit cover that the film was a genius critique of fascism that we plebeians just cannot understand, It was glorified torture and abuse porn
No. 1444090
>>1443966If someone is willing or even worse, enthusiastic to write or film that, it can't possibly be totally innocent art. The writer or director had to get off to it.
We all know the elites are degenerates who commit incredibly depraved acts because they can (and because most of them are male). WHY would you ever need to portray it in such great detail?? That's the difference between pure criticism and legal extreme pornography disguised as art or a political statement
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>>1429933So why is Salma Hayek married to this ghoul Francois Pinault? I’m not into celebrity worship but how does she not know what her husband does?
No. 1444314
>>1444173>Did any of the actors, specifically female ones, spoke about the production after? I looked up a few and none of them had any career afterThis is all that I could find
>Many of them have since perished after the film was shot such as Susanna Radaelli in December 2021, Giuliana Melis back in September 2016, Bruno Musso sometime in the 2010s, Antonio Orlando in the late 80s of a reported car crash, Sergio Fascetti in Lazio, by drug overdose in March 1992, and Lamberto Book shortly after his 50th birthday. Many of them were seen as erotica stars and thus, weren't allowed to participate as 7th art actors anymore. Some of the actors that are still alive are ashamed and wish not to speak about their experience and have since returned to anonymity after shooting a few other Italian movies or Salò itself, or have disappeared without a trace.
>Franco Merli was interviewed in 1989 and said he and his fellow cast members had a lot of fun in-between shots but everything was done quite quickly and there was little time to think about what was happening. Born in Sicily, Franco was 18 when the film was being shot, and that year (when he was being interviewed) he worked for a company that enabled LPG installations on cars. After Salò, Franco found it difficult to find any work film wise, though it was never his intention to become an actor in the first place. In 1976, he was cast as the transvestite prostitute Fernando in Ugly, Dirty and Bad and 3 years later had a minor role in The Imaginary Patient before leaving the industry for good, and returning to Sicily >Renata Moar was born in 1955 and was pushed in the spotlight at age 18 by her Mother. Described as vague and mysterious, in 1977 she starred as Klaus' sister in Nazi Love Camp 27, and modelled for the Spanish magazine Interviu. According to her artistic agent Tony Askin, Renata's boyfriend regularly beat her, and she was an avid consumer of illegal substances.>Olga Andreis was a model located in Milan who portrayed the female victim Eva. After Salò, she starred in two 2 more films and continued her profession before moving to Sardinia where she lived in 'a real paradise' for a decade. Subsequently, she moved back to back to Milan to take care of her family, and resides there to this day. She recalled that Merli, though he was courted by Pasolini several times (and according to another actor, slept in his bedroom), actually attempted to court her. But she never gave in.>Antinisca Nemour was born May 31st, 1957 in Milan, Italy. She was a model and in a film before Salò, which she was in at 17. Antinisca acted up until 1978, with most of her roles involving her body. In 2010, she starred as herself in the archival footage Video Nasties. She had a daughter named Sara in 1985 and currently lives in Bologna working as an assistant.>Dorit Henke is a German actress and the oldest victim on Salò at the age of 21 (she turned 22 whilst the film was being edited). Henke was born on June 19th, 1953, and during the 70s she posed for a number of Italian and German magazines, as well as starring in several teenage erotica films. After finding herself without any work, she gained attention for dating a Playboy, and after the relationship concluded she married an Italian, became Dorit Cappelli and Mothered a daughter. >Maurizio Valaguzza was one of the contributors who you will recognise dancing at the end with Claudio Troccoli, who asked Maurizio his girlfriends name. At the age of 16 (a rough estimate because he was born in June of 1958), Pasolini saw a picture of Maurizio in an agency and, having already done theatre, called him for an audition. In 2012 he was interviewed by Paolo Bonacelli about his Salò experience in a documentary called the 121st Day, directed by Alessandro Avellis. According to a few websites, Valaguzza was a publicist who has wrote and starred in several plays. He has a son, grandchildren, and lives in Monza e della Brianza.>Ezio Manni is a Roman, who was born on May 23rd, 1955. He was skilled at baseball and hoped to make a career out of it before meeting Pasolini when he was just 16-years-old, in 1971. Pasolini, who was described by Manni as a 'great soul', informed Ezio of knowledge and Italian culture, and subsequently, they became companions. He was also the romantic partner of Tatiana Mogilansky after comforting her whilst she was in tears. After Salò Ezio returned to anonymity until 2007. That year, he gave an interview about his Pasolinan experience and then again in 2019 to help make the French book "Mort pour Salò", where he, Umberto Chessari, Marco Lucantoni and Maurizio Valaguzza were interviewed by journalist Benjamin Berget.>Marco Lucantoni was the first victim in Salò who you'll remember as the initial victim who tried to escape. 6′0 in height, Lucantoni was born in 1957 and began acting in 1970. He appeared in over 6 films before studying architecture at the Sapienza University of Rome. After graduating, Lucantoni began working for the cargo and freight company, DHL where he was employed for many years. In 2000, he immigrated to Florida and 14-years-later, moved to Ohio where he currently works for a company called Free. He and Umberto co-starred in Mino Guerrini's 1974 Professore venga accompagnato dai suoi genitori as students. Lucantoni was Matese and Chessari was Tuturno.>Claudio Troccoli, one of the collaborators in Salò (who you'll remember spat on one of the daughter wives, Tatiana's face), now works as a carabiniere. He was 17 when starring in Salò. No. 1444538
>>1444239Have you tried the page experiment? eventually after 15-40 pages google doesnt show you anymore content, even though initially it says there's more than 6 billion results or some shit like that, it can only show you about 200. It doesn't matter what you search either. I recommend you try by yourselves anons, it's a big wakeup call. At this point I'm using webrings more than search engines.
>>1444432Can confirm, yandex is the best for image reverse search and for piracy.
No. 1448133
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(sorry if this has been posted before)
I have a tinfoil that people deliberately confuse the behavior of underage characters in order to bewilder the impressionable young men that consume said media. Ellie from The Last of Us is a prime example (I was literally her age when the game came out (14) and I remember thinking she was cool and looking up to her like I would a big sister, despite us being the same age – I know she was raised in an apocalyptic scenario but that doesn't change the fact that she is a kid). I know people cast adults as teens to avoid hiring child labor laws but it is possible for people to learn to mimic a child's behavior. In the first Walking Dead game series, the VA for Clementine was a grown woman who studied the speech patterns of children and (imo) accurately replicated the naive, hesitant speech patterns of a shy child. I know that people cast adults as children for practical reasons but there's no reason for me to believe that they don't benefit from people consciously or subconsciously "aging up" minors via media depictions.
No. 1449833
>>1448432Nta but I think she means that the adults who voice child characters don't usually try to sound like children and that combined with the way they're written creates the impression they're older and more 'mature' which could be deliberate.
I don't like the way she(?) is phrasing it though.
>Impressionable young menWhat, you mean children? It wouldn't matter to them. If you mean older teenagers and young adults then no lol. People at that age know that children are children and don't just get manipulated by video games and tv to think 14 year olds are sooo mature. I can get behind it being deliberate as means of normalizing creepy behavior towards kids or whatever but this isn't the case of
>poor impressionable young men uwu No. 1454474
>>1450871nta but I used to see women’s social media pictures being deepfake’d on /b/ so I thought I was safe if I didn’t have social media. well nowadays moids just have no problem taking pictures of you in public; literally some fucking autist in my class did that while I presented a project and then tried to arrange for better quality photos of me later on under the guise of some weird class photo even though we’re in grad school. why must they be so fucking entitled? I mind my business, don’t have a social media, don’t even talk to this scrote because he’s a weird incel autist and yet he has to potentially fuck over my entire life and career just to create some doctored photos of me to jerk off to because his phd autist brain isn’t wise enough to just imagine the person you want to masturbate to. huh funny how that works.
like I said, I have no social media and do my best not to attract attention. so are women not supposed to leave our house if we don’t want to be digitally undressed now? I fucking hate this world and moids. covid should have actually done some good and killed these mentally disabled apes off.
No. 1454484
>>1454046This also massively worries me. It reminds me how I heard of arguments saying that paedophilia is either a sort of orientation (socially unacceptable) or something like a disorder, so these perverts have no choice to be that way. Personally I feel paedophilia is nothing more than absolutely evil desires, desires based on a need to harm others (in this case children), children who have different position than adults and even though it might be related to some psychological useless, I think all propositions of therapy for pedos are massive bullshit. We should care for mental health care for people real issues, depression, anxiety, schizophrenia, DID, trauma, whatever, all except rapists-to-be.
This also enrages me how some will say that “as long as a pedo doesn’t offend it can be managed”. Bullshit, it’s not “let pedos never offend”, they will always want to offend, they just hide it. I don’t believe in shit like “non-offending” ones because that’s the same rhetoric the pedo groups used to justify their actions.
No. 1454485
>>1454484The fact that society is so oversexualized and that violence and mistreatment of women and children is normalized will only fuel this.
Luckily, most people hate pedos (and rightfully so) but it disgusts me how some people will try to argument that even though socially unacceptable, this is a sort of orientation or whatever, some unchangeable trait. Well, to me it seems a bit unchangeable but in a way that we shouldn’t accept it, we should eliminate those who have it, don’t let them harm anyone.
(Samefag - continuing, post too long)
No. 1454487
>>1454485Even some months ago I argued online with a moid who said that if I don’t believe paedophilia to be some orientation-like trait, it must mean I deny science. Little did he care that the same scientist would probably back the trans agenda. Science has been used to support racism and misogyny - this doesn’t mean whole science is wrong as a concept but that we need to see if something is pushed to serve an agenda, like discrimination or normalizing dangerous behavior.
It reminds me some sentiments that maybe we’ll see gender reaffirming surgeries in the same way as lobotomy is viewed now and I really hope it will be that way. Idiot never cited his sources either but just knowing there are out some “scientists” willing to justify just a bit something as evil and unthinkable as “attraction to children” is deeply sickening.
It would need to take a matter of time, groups of interest, lobbyist, like the trans thing but… paedophilia should never be normalized and anyone who dares to think it’s something more than a sick pornsickness desire to harm children (even in any miraculous cases where porn consumption wouldn’t be involved) is also a danger to society.
I also feel like all the people, mostly men backing shit like such “research” have something to hide as well.
(Samefag + sage but I also wanted to add this and my post was too long - the end of my long ass message that was intended as one post)
No. 1454806
>>1454718Who?
Also I hate tech. Bf was playing with his vr headset while I was on my phone browsing. He looked at me and saw it was scanning my face. Should I put tape on the camera now?
No. 1454829
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>>1454806>Who?Ayrt and it's about the celeb thing between Megan Thee Stallion and Tory Lanez. Tory is an abuser though, so I don't know if he was just bsing and being a tard.
>Should I put tape on the camera now?Yes.
No. 1456539
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>>1456538Samefag but while we’re talking suspects, I think Unnatural Vegan (picrel) either could be or would be a farmer.
No. 1456622
>>1456538vangelinaskov edits for her! she did videos on Lori and Lori fucken blocked her haha! I'll attach vid but I guarantee they are among us
I like them both so I'm not mad I just hate the farms being shown in this light and inviting newfags.
again, I like them both and neither are milky I just hard suspect and don't want to hi cow
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I was so happy when I first heard he got arrested but now I feel like something is off. Keep in mind that Tate's father was a spook. Why the fuck is the pizza is the foreground of the video. When people said the pizza chain is what identified him I was expecting the box to be in the background somewhere not in the middle of the shot. Idk, it just feels too ridicoulous that a pizza box is what got him busted (that is if he even gets any sort of punishment instead of a slap on the wrist. There was a thread on /x/ about this that got deleted very fast and the scrotes there speculated that it was meant to stir up his fanboys. Wasn't Greta a plant too, anyway?
No. 1458208
>>1458201I don't think it's that deep. He was openly bragging about being involved with organized crime. He thought that with his connections and money he could get away with it. Could Tate be tied to spooks? He could be. But he was very dumb on social media and that lead to his downfall (Thankfully). His dickriders are trying to paint his as some martyr but he's full of shit. People also overestimate the power and money Tate has. He was just a sex trafficker that had money and a following, just someone slightly above the average joe to the real elite.
Another way to put things is that they used him to create division (he probably was aware of that but since it made him money he didn't care) and promote extremism furthering our current chaotic social climate. I don't think this was just to stir up his fanboys. The details from the investigation still haven't been revealed so we will have to wait.
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>>1458201My tinfoil regarding this is that Andrew Tate is a massive autist. The way he speaks just stinks of male autism, and I feel like his sperg obsession is about cigars, cars and this really specific mid-2000s obsession with super macho things. He would have easily posted something like picrel in 2013 Instagram wih a really sepia-toned filter over it.
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omg why hasn't this been posted bitches
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>>1459510nah you're right. not a man
i do it with my bestie, we likely desensitized ourselves to the word. thanks for calling it out.
No. 1460197
>>1460187I will break up with him first because he's not only a normie believing in propaganda but also a sexual pest
>>1460194NPC reply
No. 1460934
>>1460884his "im joking and lieing" video is TERRIFYINGLY similar to Isaac Kaapy's video of the same nature right before he was killed.
if you don't know the story of Isaac Kaapy it's told very well by trisha twyman who was also murdered for uncovering the celebrity blackmail secret mystery school pedophile crap
https://youtu.be/Bh0HUrY8XKQthe whole original video unfortunately was wiped from the internet. but this live reaction recording remained.
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The James Somerton video has me fully convinced that now Hollywood is going to use "woke" rhetoric to shill ugly moids and accuse any women who aren't attracted to ugly moids as being racist for only being attracted to "euro-centric" beautfy standards, like Hollywood and twitter have been trying to brainwash all of us to accept that this short flabby mexican with badly grown facial hair is any attractive or appealing
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>>1461098depended on the genre, films marketed for males had gruff male leads that men could gravitate too and films marketed towards women had hoy guys but nowadays its either about being subversive or inclusive, these people hate us and purposefully fuck our perceptions of reality
No. 1461267
>>1461256To continue society's trust so they can keep licking the boots of the government and their corporations. Blind trust and consumerism helps the economy, it brings in tax dollars to fill full pockets of elites.
We're penalized for not trusting and refusing to borrow. We are threatened to lose our jobs and are fined up the ass for not complying. They want to keep us poor, they want to keep us in their pockets, and they want to make sure we can't find a way or work out a plan to survive without them.
No. 1461306
>>1461275Lol stfu no1curr
>>1461295I was about to get it but what lost me is people being way too forceful about it, demanding unvaccinated to be lynched and shit and treating them like they're second class citizens, even after fauci and the companies admitted vaccines never had or will stop the spread and people still kept having witch hunts for unvaccinated, all within a couple months was super suspicious to me. Anything THAT forceful will never be good news to me
No. 1461382
>>1439467really late but yeah
nonny, it’s been proven to be side effects of the vaxx. I believe there is a paper out there that links the jab with myocarditis and other heart diseases. nevertheless, it could also be covid itself. personally I had two shots and never had any side effects but when I got covid that shit seriously fucked me up in the head. I had nonstop panic attacks for days on end and I just wanted to kill myself to make it stop, and on top of that I also developed pvcs. my heart is clear though. I recently got on meds and that has made it much more manageable and I’m recovering but, yeah, it might’ve been the vax or asymptomatic covid. covid also causes myocarditis and heart issues lmao
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Football man Damar Hamlin is in critical condition after a tackle. Medical staff administered CPR for 9 minutes on the field but supposedly when he was taken to the hospital he had a pulse. No update on his condition in over a hour. Twitter is having a conniption with vaccine injury claims. No one seems willing to address that American football is a pointlessly dangerous sport.
No. 1461484
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>>1461314>Bara teddies Bara teddies Bara teddiesSHUT THE FUCK UP, he's a pudgy man who couldn't be bothered to lose weight and you've been meme'd into liking pudgy dudes and be convinced fit men pectorals are the same thing as moobs
No. 1461598
>>1417052>>1461585Same
nonnie, me and bf got it in early nov. We’ve quite literally been sick since and we’re just getting over the hump. This on top of a hard med. abortion have left me totally out of it at work and in life.
I feel for you and hope you’re doing better!
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>>1461801the numbers speak for themselves.
also notice the lack of spike during the BLM protests where people were yelling and packed like sardines.
No. 1461927
>>1461919i guess i should state my point sorry:
how is it possible that my brother gets omicron covid and his live in girlfriend gets sick with exactly the same symptoms and one one tests positive for covid, both vaxxed exactly the same days with the same batches and all. i believe their test was a comprehensive lab hospital test. also same concept with my mother and her live in boyfriend. how does one person get sick with covid and then the other is negative for covid.
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>>1461927samefag: sorry.
i believe the tests were faulty, the anitigen and PCR. the flu went away i propose because the covid tests (which were the only tests most people cared to go get) we're falsely reporting covid when perhaps it was flu or rhinovirus.
-picrel: Tanzanian President tested a goat and a paw paw in May 2020. He conveniently passed away in March 2021 after everyone forgot.
No. 1462844
>>1462564That is not 2x discourse or autism. Get over it. She made a comment on disgusting men shooting women specifically in the genitals and didn’t say anything wrong or extreme. She asked how you could hate 50% of the population, women, so much.
Valid question regarding the op post. Chill the fuck out male lover.
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Daily reminder there's a hole in the north pole
No. 1463210
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Veganism was pushed not only as a marketing tactic to genuinely brainwash people into thinking that dehydrated ground-up soy is somehow "healthier" than meat, but it was also pushed to make a percentage of the population weak, vitamin-deficient and frail. We are omnivores, there is no reason to be vegan and deprive yourself of any animal-based foods unless you're somehow allergic to all of them. And to be reasonable here, no you shouldn't be eating processed red meat 3x a day and eating entire blocks of cheese, but at the same time there are specific nutrients that you acquire from meat/dairy that are hard to get from vegan diets.
It's only a matter of time, and it's already happening in some areas, before they start shoving minced insects as a replacement to meat, Snowpiercer block style. Everyone should be far more focused on more ethical ways of farming instead of pretending like your avocados that were shipped overseas are somehow more healthy and environmentally-friendly.
I've also noticed way more women turning vegan than men. I wonder if this is partially down to women feeling more guilt socially and feeling like they constantly need to alter their diet through trends and fads.
No. 1463243
>>1463229Of course, but there are still levels to it, and labor which produces dead objects from dead objects is often fucked up but it's way less fucked up than labor that requires killing of billions of animals, often not even adult ones, who suffered in terrible conditions, to produce resources. Also, people who work in slaughterhouses are often fucked up. Many suffer from ptsd.
This will never be "normal" kek
https://www.bbc.com/news/stories-50986683 No. 1463246
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>>1463210I've gotten more into the environmental studies of my field (I like animals and nature ugh) and while I obviously see the dangers of negative externalities in mass production and consumption, I cannot help but think that environmentalism can be used to guilt trip women in particular–creating this Orwellian end goal that the WEF has previously published that we will own nothing and be eating Soylent but we'll all totally SO HAPPY doing it, right nonnies?! Idk it's a slippery slope and I will never understand why we put the fault (like taxing) on the modern day low to middle income consumer or the local fisherman in my field; it feels like academia is bought by the Fortune 500 or something to pursue such counterproductive and worthless solutions when I know that the people who write these papers are also smart enough to consider taxing producers instead.
No. 1463286
>>1463255A massive amount of rainforests chopped down in Brazil were also for soybean production lol
Demand needs supply no matter what the item. People can't keep pretending they're helping without truly caring about where their food comes from. Even things that say their "sustainably" sourced are barely meeting criteria because the companies make their own rules.
If everyone had a garden or shopped local and stopped being overconsumption assholes maybe we wouldn't need to import and tear other countries apart.
No. 1463296
>>1463253I wonder if it’s because people are catching on to how weird it is to be vegetarian for ethical reasons but still consume dairy. You can make the argument that eggs are a waste product and as long as you take good care of the hens it’s fine, but dairy requires forcibly impregnating a cow then taking her calf and killing it (aside from a few kept to continue the cycle). If you can support that, why not just eat the damn cow as well?
I’m not vegan but lactose intolerant, and dairy free alternatives have got so much better and more widely available in the past 5 years. My diet isn’t a chore anymore. I’ve only heard awful things about vegan egg alternatives though, so cutting them out would be hard.
No. 1463374
>>1463242There was a period of time were I didn't eat dairy and eggs and I tried some of the vegan alternatives. Some of them were tasty but I was clearly eating super processed chemical shit. Some products made me feel like shit (nausea, cramps, bad stool) so I just stopped eating them, but without some vegan dairy or egg alternatives there's not a lot of variety of food that you can eat if you're an average person who can't spend $5 for an imported fruit.
Also if you're an woman with an average income a vegan diet can become unsustainable pretty quickly, not to mention that I feel like young women and children really need some meat.
No. 1463511
>>1463210consumerist veganism, any diet really, is so bad for you. it's extremely processed. i incorporate "keto" food into my diet due to hereditary diabetes and i probably only buy like 2 things labeled as keto, everything else marketed as keto is aboslute shit. i eat regular shit like chicken and broccoli and onions like a normal human should.
i've tried keto protein bars from aldi and i had the worst bout of diarrhea in the longest time from a single bite. i can't believe it's marketed that way. the horrible amount of artificial sugar in that was disgusting. i don't get why things need to taste nauseatingly sweet.
the only people who buy most keto labeled foods are looking for quick fixes, people with eating disorders trying to lose so many pounds a week and then going back to their regular deep fried oreos, sugar smacks, and potatoes diets once they hit 120lbs and then have to reach out to another extreme diet and go "NOTHING IS WORKING"
No. 1463884
>>1463518No shit. But
>>1460283 was making a comment, very tame at that, in regards to what anon thought was a conspiracy against women. And
>>1462564 was tripping about it saying it needed to be in 2x and it does not. You can say something against males without having to be in 2x.
No. 1463930
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>>1463313>vegans are not killing the earthYes they are.
Veganism will kill the earth quicker than anything else.
>importing vegan foods dumps more CO2 and petrochemicals into the atmosphere>importing vegan foods also causes food poverty in the poor countries where the food is grown>soy and palm oil are common vegan food ingredients that are huge cash crops so rain forest is destroyed so they can be grown for profit>artificial fertilizer used in crop production cause soil degradation and poisons water sources>herbicides and pesticides are are toxic chemicals that are carcinogenic and teratogenic, they cause cancer and birth defects in both humans and animals. The image shows dead chicks that died due to deformities caused by crop spraying.The solution for diet sustainability is to eat seasonally and eat what is produced locally.
No. 1464173
>>1463930how is veganism in particular "killing the earth" when 80% of all soy farming crops are crops dedicated to feeding and sustaining US animal agriculture? all of that destruction of the Amazon for soy is way more accredited to sustaining factory farm cow diets for Ameritard carnivores than anything else.
most of what you've listed as being blamed to veganism is accredited to ANY imported crops or vegetables/fruits from other countries. vegans aren't the only people who consume imported fruits/vegetables or imported soy, which again, is mostly accredited to feeding factory farmed animals.
while yes, your point is true about the solution for diet sustainability to eat seasonally and locally is true, trying to say "veganism is killing the earth quicker than anything else" and then listing talking points that only further prove how damaging industrial animal agriculture is for our planet is a laughable argument to make to followup your point.
if anything, refusing to contribute giving money to an industry that factory farms animals en masse via normalized species rape and slaughter as a whole helps the earth more than anything, again, considering all of that soy imported to the US mostly is used to sustain the dead bodies I'm sure you have 0 issue stuffing your face with so long as the animal is killed "locally". you do realize if your neighbor or your land has ever used a ground fertilizer or weed killer like jumpstart that most likely you're still eating carcinogenic and teratogenic chemicals anyways right? eating local won't solve that.
No. 1464196
>>1463210this has to be the most braindead take I've read on this thread inawhile and it's the fucking tinfoil thread lol. please for the love of god stop fetishizing folks like liver king and read an actual book or academic study on the dead bodies you're so proudly trying to justify gorging yourself with.
veganism has existed since the dawn of human beings themselves. plant based diets have existed as far back as some of the earliest human tribes. a neanderthal or prehistoric human had way closer to a plant based whole food diet than a carnivorous or modern day diet by 80%+.
no matter how much mental gymnastics you're trying to do to make eating the factory-farmed dead body of an animal fed soy (where 80% of worldwide soy is produced to feed factory farmed animals) and pumped with cross sex and artificial growth hormones, it will never be healthier than eating plant proteins, no matter how much modern day alpha male tradwife propaganda has convinced you folks are "brainwashed" into eating plant proteins humans have ingested for milennia.
how the hell does 100g of plant protein make one weak, vitamin deficient and frail when it contains the same if not more vitamins and proteins than the equivalent 100g of Burgerland dead animal flesh? this myth of "there are certain nutrients you can only derive from dead animals that one can't get from eating just plants" is just that, a myth propagated mostly by the chuds behind 'got milk' and other government subsidy earning dairy conglomerates who have convinced the American public that vegan diets are unsustainable which, by any bare minimum knowledge of how nutrition works, is incorrect. Choosing to not eat factory-farmed dead bodies gorged with soy anyways isn't "depriving" oneself, it's mindfully choosing to 1. either not contribute to mass rape, suffering, and slaughter of entire species and 2. choosing not to poison ones body with anything that screams when it's killed or is pumped with growth hormones before being slaughtered in a dirty factory farm.
newsflash burgerlander: people in other countries and other cultures have eaten insects for protein for milennia now as well. it isn't some overarching conspiracy, tard, it's a natural form of protein for some people just as
valid as you find eating a factory farmed hormone pumped ground up bodies of 100 cows in a patty is "natural" or consuming pig lower intestines wrapped in a butthole as a hotdog is "natural". just because you grew up in the West where eating cows/pigs is normalized but eatings dogs and bugs isn't doesn't mean it's some overarching conspiracy when plenty of humans haven't looked down on that protein at all due to their own projections.
hell, if you eat seafood in the US, you already are consuming normalized insect protein. lobsters were originally viewed as the cockroaches of the sea until a propaganda campaign by fishermen in the US during the american revolution convinced the public that instead of being gross poverty food it was a delicacy. same thing with shrimp, whose literal anal sacks are visible and eaten when they're consumed.
also, ever consider women are more empathetic to the struggles of the idea of mass rape, subjugation, and slaughtering of entire species than men who glorify destruction and 'warrior' mentality are? ever consider it has less to do with your own projected ideas of "diets and fads" and more to do with women recognizing a correlation between the mass rape and consumption of entire species via literal "rape racks" and how that could be seen through a feminist frame of lens? god I wish you had enough functioning braincells to read "the sexual politics of eating meat" cause it would blow your mind how much male propaganda you're regurgitating to defend eating your chicken nuggets. just say you don't care about the mass rape and torture of entire species at the hands of men and move on.
No. 1464311
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>>1464300this is the real tinfoil, ag lobby is the biggest in america and has propaganda everywhere, especially the dairy industry who spend billions trying to get people to drink puss filled breastmilk from cows fed sex hormones rather than almonds and water. you remember that huge meme about bacon a while ago? where everything was bacon themed and bacon was the manliest thing ever? yeah that was a confirmed animal agriculture psyop, they admitted to it. people who HURR DURR VEGAN EAT QUONIA I EAT COW I VERY NATRUL I VERY SMART for free are idiots, you can get paid for doing that shit. but these tards are not worth arguing with since they are either a) literal paid propagandists or b) literal sheeple. these are bleak times for us enlightened v*gan nonnas.
No. 1464319
>>1464196>liver kingWho?
>how the hell does 100g of plant protein make one weak, vitamin deficient and frailPlant and meat offer completely different nutrient and protein profiles. you lot literally have to rely on b12 supplements and you think that shit is healthy? even vegetarians want nothing to do with you kek
>newsflash burgerlanderI'm not even american, you sound obsessed with americans though, maybe you should seek some help for that
>male propaganda you're regurgitating to defend eating your chicken nuggetsI'm an ex-vegan, don't eat chicken nuggets and my decision to eat meat doesn't make me a
victim to male propaganda, it just means i easily achieve muscle mass compared to you and also have a more varied diet kek. I buy my animal-based products from local small farms too. Take your b12 and move on faggot.
No. 1464326
>>1464319>completely different protein profilesplant and meat both contain all essential amino acids. the levels vary. but unless you are eating exclusively lettuce or are literally anorexic, you will consume complete proteins. you are retarded and have no idea what you're talking about. even sites that are basically misinfo like webmd still admit vegans can get all necessary proteins from plants, you have no excuse.
>i'm ex vegantranslation: 'i was 'vegan' for two hours in middle school after watching an earthling ed video then quit when i got hungry and now i pretend that makes me an expert when people disagree with my retarded and misinformed opinions'
>b12 deficiencymost people w a b12 deficiency are meat eaters. everything you say is so easily disproved it's sad. you have no interest in actually engaging in conversation about real conspiracy. instead you're interested in blogging about your love of the meat industry, as if that is not the most normal and basic belief shared by every normie that gets their news from facebook and cnn. i hope you are being paid for this because the idea that you might be sincere is scary as shit. run along cheesebreath.
No. 1464364
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>>1464311god thank you. these arguments are pointless. we should just chill and eat our tofu while the meatoids endlessly seethe over how beyond burgers are a literal bug meat snowpiercer psyop or whatever they're upset about this time. direct action is what truly matters, arguing with meat eaters online does nothing.
No. 1464530
>>1464173>>1464196>factory farmingI never mentioned factory farming because I agree that it's barbaric and needs to be banned. Some countries that aren't the US have much stricter animal welfare laws and US anons need to remember that not every country has a meat industry that is based on torturing animals for profit. Factory farming is a whole issue on it's own and yes it does huge amounts of damage to the environment. The solution is not to go to the other extreme because the end result is the same. A cow, sheep or pig in field doesn't require additional feed and does no damage to the environment. Leaving a field to pasture is a traditional method of replenishing soil after it has been depleted by growing crops. To be sustainable agriculture needs to be a balance between livestock and crops. That's how humans have practiced agriculture for thousands of years.
>>1464196>veganism has existed since the dawn of human beings themselvesYes and the humans that were vegan are now extinct. Eating a meat based diet is what allowed modern humans to evolve from apes because the nutrition in meat is essential to brain development and intelligence.
>it will never be healthier than eating plant proteinsIt is because even soy which is the only complete plant protein is deficient in the amino acids needed for the human brain to function. Soy has low levels of Tryptophan which is needed for mental functioning. No society has ever existed with soy as it's main protein source. East Asian countries that eat a lot of soy do not eat it in isolation, they also consume eggs, meat, fish and dairy.
>how the hell does 100g of plant protein make one weakAs I said above plant protein is deficient in the nutrients needed for brain functioning and development. It's why vegans exhibit so many symptoms of mental illness. It's because their diet is chronically deficient in the B vitamins, minerals and amino acids that are needed to synthesize neurotransmitters and hormones. High meat diets such as keto, paleo and carnivore are known treatments for disorders as PCOS and many neurological illnesses. Wanting to force women to eat a plant only diet is outright malicious as it would lead to an increase in hormone disorders and a decline in mental health.
>either not contribute to mass rape, suffering, and slaughter of entire speciesAgain just because your shithole country doesn't have animal welfare laws, it doesn't mean that everyone consumes cheap meat from tortured animals. Even in the US there are farmers that practice traditional, pre-industrial animal husbandry. Instead of destroying the natural world through
toxic chemicals so you feel good about eating glyphosate soy sold in plastic, you should campaign for higher animal welfare standards.
>>1464300Deficient vegans keep bringing up the same arguments to the point that it's not worth writing new posts or posting new images. Also I have addressed this. Most of what animals are fed is chaff that is not edible for humans. Food intended for humans sells for far more money than animal feed so why would any soy grower sell it as animal feed when they can make more profit from selling it to vegans?
>>1464311The agriculture industry is dwarfed by petrochemical companies that would profit most from veganism. Vegans are nothing but shills for Bayer and Dow Chemical.
No. 1464597
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the ruling class uses social issues to distract from class issues.
No. 1464670
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Why is the mainstream left so focused on Drag Queens and willing to defend what are essentially men doing a mocking display of womanhood, literally willing to die on the hill of kids seeing sexual drag shows
No. 1465391
>>1465276I would agree with you. Humans lived sustainably for thousands of years without contaminating themselves or the rest of the planet. Now look at where we are. Humans have essentially disturbed the balance of nature and have come closer to destroying themselves than ever before. Within one hundred years, billions of tons of
toxic chemicals have been released into the environment, areas of the earth are uninhabitable due to nuclear radiation, major rivers are too polluted to sustain life and the oceans are dying due to microplastics. Humans are killing themselves and the world around us so a few people can make massive profits.
No. 1465664
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Food for thought. Also, apparently the site was taken down because of her article. Be mad, glowies!
https://archive.ph/2020.04.18-212356/https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Tracy_Twyman No. 1465677
>>1464196Eating meat (real food) is what made us human, and it is no coincidence that in every culture and race on the planet the ruling class eats meat while the serfs or slaves eat vegetables and other low energy stuff that keeps their bodies and minds perpetually stupefied and submissive, since they're essentially always starving. Within a generation or two of this worthless diet you have created a perfect slave class.
Eating meat isn't just right, it's of the utmost importance and one of the defining features of humanity. Only lesser apes are herbivorous, and people destined to slavery. If you and people like you want to be slaves, do so. But I will have nothing to do with that. The saddest, most miserable thing you're doing is when you try to justify your slavery as being "moral." Go be "moral" all you want. My children will rule over your children like kings, and they will be worshiped by yours like they're gods. Basic eugenics baby.
No. 1465706
>>1465677>that in every culture and race on the planet the ruling class eats meat while the serfs or slaves eat vegetables…they were also incredibly unhealthy because of it. europeans frequently suffered from salt sickness due to eating preserved meats and what little greens they did get during the winter. the wealthy always had a variety of illnesses from eating poorly and decadently, sitting on their asses all day, that you just did not see in the working classes: gout, cancers, liver issues, obesity, diabetes (even though they didn't know what it was at the time), you name it, they had it. i don't think there's anything wrong with eating meat, but you really need a varied diet.
plus, poor people had no other choice but to eat vegetables or offal, when they could get to it. and now people, rich people at that, eat the kinds of things they used to and pay good money for it, so who is getting the last laugh at the end of the day?
>Eating meat isn't just right, it's of the utmost importance and one of the defining features of humanity. Only lesser apes are herbivorous, and people destined to slavery. If you and people like you want to be slaves, do so. But I will have nothing to do with that. The saddest, most miserable thing you're doing is when you try to justify your slavery as being "moral." Go be "moral" all you want. My children will rule over your children like kings, and they will be worshiped by yours like they're gods. Basic eugenics baby.this entire post reeks of scrote.
No. 1465711
>>1465706Nta but that is from overconsumption, you said it yourself they were obese and sedentary. That would make anyone unhealthy, vegan or not.
>this entire post reeks of scrote.Yeah that last part gave me major scrote vibes but I didn't want to say anything cause I thought the first part was based lol.
No. 1465826
>>1465439I don't think the situation is hopeless and believe that most of the damage done to the environment can be reversed, even if it would take decades or in some cases hundreds of years. Returning to traditional farming methods such as field rotation can be used to restore depleted soil, forests can be replanted and environmental remediation technology is already fairly advanced.
What is lacking is the will to do it. Humans are destructive but we are also resilient, inventive and capable of solving almost any problem we find.
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>>1465719okay then why are Germans and other northern europeans taller then most of the world ?
No. 1465891
>>1464642>>1465786You can still find the video of little girls in the bath in Mouthy Buddha's materials on bitchute. Here you can see it around 6:54 minute.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/eD4T0p3mI5NZ/But I would recommend to watch the whole video. I remember how Tom Hanks disappeared from social media for a while after accusations and now he's back and he makes new movies and people behave like nothing happened, just another nothing burger kek
Also I'm wondering where is Buddha 'cos he haven't posted a new video since june
No. 1465921
>>1465897>thinking rich nobles held themselves to rules>thinking poor peasants could afford any meatreally?
even priests were known for shaping meat into the shape of a fish and telling themselves god won't notice that they sin lol
No. 1466960
>>1463210Veganism is specially bad for women due to greater need for iron. Most vegans are women, women are more empathetic and are more willing to weaken their bodies because of feelings for animals. It's really sad. Humans are natural omnivores and nutrients are more bioavailable in meats and animal products, theres no getting around that.
Just because americans tend to have shitty fast food diets doesn't mean we don't need ACTUAL healthy meat like chicken breast and beef liver
No. 1467169
>>1467129They show ads that seem relevant to the videos content. I think you can play with the settings in your account though. I get pretty much nothing but gambling app ads no matter what I watch. I think it defaults to that when you ask google not to cater ads to you. I don't gamble.
Was the video about national parks talking about the amount of people who go missing in them?
No. 1467223
>>1467140Sorry for the blogpost, just to illustrate the situation I had zinc, B12 and iron deficiency despite tracking my food even with a food scale to maximize protein and macro input, I was regularly going to doctors for checkups and had a personalized meal plan. Apparently I don't absorb it well from vegetable sources and even my B12 supplement had to be from a specific more expensive brand because the cheaper ones weren't helping. Every time I fixed one thing, something else would fall apart. I was constantly gassy and bloated even after 9 months of eating like this. It's just not sustainable for a lot of people. You can't reason with them, they've let their emotions for animals and believing they're saving the planet take over reason.
I genuinely feel worried for women who follow this lifestyle for a long period of time specially if they aren't getting regular health check ups or are ignoring possible health issues due to moral concerns.
There's just no way to sustain billions of humans in a global capitalist system whether they're eating vegan or omnivore period. Someone else mentioned Brazil in this thread and I actually live in the country and I can say that most of our imported meat that comes from rainforest destruction goes to China, Emirates Arabs, etc… so a white american with superior complex isn't doing shit to help the rainforest in particular and they love to mention the rainforest. My country is deep in political corruption and that's why the rainforest situation happens and veganism won't change it, not unless you convince billions of chinese people and arabs to become vegans as well and completely stop buying brazilian meat. lol
Honestly at this point it really has become a "you'll eat the bugs and be happy" situation ,the elite will keep eating meat (remember the world cup was just now and there were people eating meat that costs the same as a brand new car) and we'll have to content ourselves with Soylent stuff, industrialized burgers and insect powder supplements if you want something else other than legumes, fruits and vegetables which are great but can't sustain a human being on their own.
No. 1467279
Honestly? If we got rid of shitty fast food chains and hyper processed fake food there would be a huge improvement already. Less shit food, less demand for shit food that needs to be made fast and in huge quantities, better diet for us, less pressure for factories and slaughterhouses. Idk it seems bad to blame this on average women who need certain foods to be healthy and not worry about rich fuckers and millions of obese people asking for processed shit fast food meat they don't really need.
>>1467165We're omnivores so we ACTUALLY need both meat and vegetables/fruits. Being omnivores doesn't mean that you can avoid eating entire categories of food (just like you can't only eat meat). Can we survive off of plants for a long period of time? Probably, but you're not going to be healthy, especially if you're a woman and you don't have access to specific types of vegetables/fruits/supplements. A human can't sustain themselves with a vegan diet, especially if they're young and active.
No. 1467577
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>>1467388most Satanists were just a bunch of edgy LARPers into BDSM, talking about how edgy and cool they were cause they didn't care about morality or sense of shame
No. 1467618
>>1467388Earlier I was on /x/ and there was an anon making threads pertaining to Michael Aquino gov docs he specifically requested and obtained. His name gets dropped with some pretty significant events. So much so, that it was either literally hundreds or over a thousand pages worth of info. I haven't fully looked into it but highly recommend checking it out if it's still up.
>>1467577>lul theyRe just lArPeRs duh Did you ever consider that's what they want you to believe? That it's just a superficial philosophy they like to play around with rather than a legitimate cult that is actively working against the public and sacrificing children? Obviously they're not going to outright say how deep they're into this stuff unless it's subliminally through media (groom you into thinking it's only fiction). Highly encourage you and anyone else who believes it's harmless larping to go down the Ted Gunderson rabbithole.
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Reminder that Andrea Dworkin condoned pedophilia and bastiality
she and her associates were malcontents with a chip on their shoulders that misread history, misrepresented the truth & the majority of women have rejected it.
No. 1469889
>>1465124i get what you're saying but…segregation in the us ended in 1964, that's less than 100 years ago. obviously "racism" was going to become a point of discussion after it stopped being considered the normal thing to do.
people are still, also, campaigning against the ruling class. and race issues and class issues tend to go hand in hand anyway, most poor people are black. or were
No. 1470730
>>1467129Google tracks you so I'd recommend not using youtube (or you can use a frontend like invidious)
Also use an ad blocker
No. 1470741
>>1470726based as fuck
i went vegan for ethical reasons but the aesthetic results are definitely a plus. also it can decrease natural body odor in many people
No. 1470744
>>1470734Trying it is the best way. Just make sure to eat as many plants as you want until you're full. You need to eat a lot more to keep your caloric intake stable but you'll be consuming so much more water/vitamins/minerals you'll feel better anyways. Lots of water too. People usually quit when the casein withdrawal starts (headaches, fatigue). Casein is like mild, natural heroin. It keeps the baby calf calm and coming back to its mom for more milk.
>>1470734It shouldn't be unless you're too lazy to buy a container of field greens and plop them in a bowl with other food on top. Potatoes have a complete nutritional profile and beans are pure protein that you can literally rinse and pour from th can. If you have the means to buy vegetables, you'll be okay. I can make any of the foods I used to eat vegan and have always liked bowls/salads so wasn't a big deal for me
No. 1470844
>>1470734nta but just like they stated viewing veganism as restrictive and "leading to malnutrition" is a myth perpetuated by the dairy industry and propaganda campaigns like 'got milk?' who purposefully have perpetuated this narrative with the public that despite plant-based diets existing since the dawn of humans themselves, that one who only eats plant proteins is somehow "malnourished or deficient" compared to someone who eats dead bodies.
first of all, where tf do you think the dead bodies you're consuming are getting their vitamins and proteins from to begin with? FROM PLANT PROTEINS. cow eat grass, you eat cow, you only get nutrients from that cow from the grass it ate to begin with, which in burgerland, is very little as most factory farmed dead bodies are pumped with artifical growth hormones and fed 90% soybased diets, aka the same plant proteins you're demonizing as being lacking in nutrients.
how is willfully refusing to be a part of normalized industrialized harm, genocide, and rape of entire species retarded? because "got milk" and similar campaigns paid off by big dairy with government subsidies told you so? get bent.
i went vegan 3+ years ago after questioning it for many years before then but still coming from a background of eating meat/viewing things as "the circle of life"/a native american upbringing. I believed all the BS until I educated myself enough about our food systems and the state of factory farming and capitalist agriculture to realize that eating dead bodies in our current year is the furthest thing from healthy when even our farmed fruits and vegetables contain microplastics.
this idea that veganism is restrictive is a myth perpetuated by nonnies who love their chicken nuggies soooo much that they'd rather view choosing to eat over 500,000+ different species and types of plant protein over the same 5 mass bred, raped, and murdered species of animal as "restrictive" rather than freedom from a harmful system and freedom over what one puts in their body.
I know EVERY SINGLE ingredient and compound I put in my body on a daily basis. I know where it comes from, what it is, what its made out of, if any artificial things are added, and pre-vegan I never had this awareness of what mess I was putting in my body.
Since going vegan I've had nothing but limitless options and the ability to eat everything I would've eaten before, with the gift of science and human ingenuity that almost taste exactly the same as we live in 2022 a time where vegan dupes of everything exist that don't contain cow pus or wood shavings. I eat all the things I ate before going vegan, except with the added bonus of knowing exactly what it is, where it came from, and that it didn't contribute to the mass rape, slaughter, and murder of entire species on a daily basis just for my 1 moment of pleasure to be shat out.
No. 1470846
>>1470827https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/vitamin-k/>Food SourcesPhylloquinoneGreen leafy vegetables including collard and turnip greens, kale, spinach, broccoli, Brussels sprouts, cabbage, lettuces
Soybean and canola oil
Salad dressings made with soybean or canola oil
Fortified meal replacement shakes
>MenaquinonesNatto (fermented soybeans)
Smaller amounts in meat, cheese, eggs No. 1470923
>>1470844>veganism as restrictiveYes cutting out an entire natural source of nutrition that humans evolved to eat is restrictive. Keto and carnivore are also restrictive because keto requires cutting out an entire macro and carnivore means existing on meat and eggs. Anything that removes what is naturally part of the human diet is restrictive. To argue about this is fucking retarded.
>plant-based diets existing since the dawn of humans themselvesGive an example of a successful human civilization that existed purely on plants.
>that one who only eats plant proteins is somehow "malnourished or deficient"While it's possible to eat a plant protein and receive adequate nutrition, it involves careful planning of what needs to be eaten. Soy is deficient in tryptophan which means it needs to be blended with a plant protein source that is high in tryptophan. This is without mentioning other vitamins and minerals such as B12 which are essential for human health, yet are severely lacking in a vegan diet. The vast majority of vegans are completely ignorant to nutrition which is why even if it's possible, so many of them exhibit signs of both mental and physical sickness.
>factory farmedFactory farming has already been denounced in this thread. American agriculture is bad, we know. Polluting the earth with atrizine and glyphosate is not the answer.
>where tf do you think the dead bodies you're consuming are getting their vitamins and proteins from to begin with?You can not be this ignorant of biology. All energy on earth comes from the sun. Plants take sun light and CO2 with nutrients they take from the soil. A cow eats grass and synthesizes this into a form of protein that is easily digestible to humans. I would ask you where plants get their nutrition from but you know the answer and are intentionally avoiding the issue.
>I know EVERY SINGLE ingredient and compound I put in my body on a daily basis.So you eat a diet of purely organic vegetables that are locally grown?
No. 1470982
>>1470923humans cut out plenty of natural sources of nutrition from their diets without labelling them as restrictive diets or restrictive dieting choices. the west as a whole looks down upon eating bugs as protein despite the other half of the world having 0 issue with such and seeing it as no different than seafood. is refusing to eat bugs something you deem restrictive as well simply because people choose to not eat that available protein option for whatever reason? there's thousands of different species of bugs that provide varying protein comparable to the animals we factory farm yet I doubt you view those who refuse to eat bugs or even seafood as "restricting themselves".
furthermore, where did humans "evolve to eat meat"? at which point in human evolution did that occur? a species doing something, however natural or unnatural one argues it is, doesn't mean they're evolved to do so.
see: literally anyone who is noneuropean who lacks the genetic deformity that allows them to properly digest cheese, literally anyone who is unable to properly digest meat (most people but burgerlanders ignore their bodies basic needs and what their body is telling them because god forbid animal ag propaganda be wrong) and anyone who has ever had to cut out dairy due to issues with their lymphatic/sinus systems.
furthermore, what do you deem as a successful human civilization? and what does their success or lack thereof have to do with how beneficial, successful, or sustainable their plant based diets were? plenty of indigenous civilizations have been found to have sustained themselves off of plant based proteins and mostly plant diets yet can still be written off as "unsuccessful" because of the western attempted genocide of indigenous peoples. elaborate on what it is you'd like me to prove.
your argument that plant proteins lead to malnourishment is based on the assumption that people who are vegan for these purposes listed above don't already carefully plan/consider what they put into their bodies. regardless of if they're doing veganism for ethical or dietary reasons, a vegan looks at the ingredients and macros of pretty much everything they consume before they even buy it and let it in their home. this idea that vegans are malnourished because nobody is going to look/consider/plan what they eat is pure burgerlander nonsense because most vegans already do that. the fact that vegan bodybuilders, weightlifters, and weighttrainers exist is argument enough against this notion that veganism = malnutrition inherently when there are plenty of "omnivores" and self proclaimed "carnivores" who sustain themselves off of animal products yet are still underweight, overweight, or malnourished because they only eat DoorDash and McDonalds, aka most Burgerlanders.
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>>1470921>fortified foodSo you're still basically taking supplements, making the actual natural vegan diet unsustainable and not optimal at all since the vitamins that are naturally absent from plants are very important.
>>1470982>who lacks the genetic deformity that allows them to properly digest cheeseNo one lacks the natural ability to digest milk, it's just that in some populations the enzyme that makes you digest dairy stops being produced after a certain age. So not a deformity.
>plenty of indigenous civilizations have been found to have sustained themselves off of plant based proteins and mostly plant dietsKey word is "mostly", but also do you have a source? Pretty sure many indigenous civilization consume meat (even raw organ meat), just in lower amounts.
But also, this is not the right fucking thread.
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>>1470923genuine question - hypothetically speaking, say that we lived in a world where for the past almost 5 decades we had scientific evidence and data showing that consuming
[REDACTED] leads to increased heart disease, liver/stomach cancers, lymphatic diseases, increased risk of heart failure, diabetes, etc.
let's also say that with the current industry that allows [REDACTED] to be created and sold, it is responsible for over 80% of not just agricultural, but industrial water consumption, 90% of all soy crops and deforestation due to soy farming in the Amazon, and even has links to newborn babies being forced to die by the companies that make and sell [REDACTED] overseas by sending over 'nurses' who get newborn infants hooked on their products until the mother stops creating her own milk, before forcing the mother to pay for their product so that way the baby doesn't die.
this same industry has also funded numerous historical propaganda campaigns with the media to convince the public that eating [REDACTED] is good for you, nutritious, the basis of a good/healthy diet, and not consuming such leaves one "deficient and malnourished" because it is so "essential". bearing in mind that these same companies who make and profit from [REDACTED] also receive government subsidies for putting their leftovers in whatever products they can put the scrap materials and powdered processed scraps into for an extra buck.
are you genuinely saying that in this scenario (where 'redacted' = milk/dairy/meat products in America) that refusing to eat those things and put those things in your body while knowing what you know is "restrictive"? Or is it just fucking common sense?
You're essentially acknowledging that while factory farming is "wrong" and bad for our bodies/planet, that despite that, it is fine and dandy to continue consuming dead animal flesh bred in those circumstances (because 90% of all animal agriculture in the US IS factory-farmed) simply because the alternative would be "restrictive"? Seriously?
It's like saying refusing to eat lead paint chips or use radium as lipgloss is "restrictive", except you have the argument of being able to say "but humans evolved to eat meat" all while putting your fingers in your ears when it comes to the reality that humans, no matter how much you think we might've "evolved to eat meat" are still dying of cancer and heart disease at startling rates in congruence with the uptick of CPE, mad cow disease, animal agriculture and factory farming/industrial agriculture and it's consequences. humans didn't evolve to eat the cross-hormone pumped, bred to die monstrosities that are put on store shelves in Burgerland, and trying to assert a refusal to poison ones body amongst all these truths as "restrictive" is admitting not just your own ignorance but your cognitive dissonance when it comes to your own self destruction and harm. Get well soon.
No. 1471030
>>1470982>the west as a whole looks down upon eating bugs as proteinThe reason for this isn't that deep. Europeans probably evolved disgust towards insects because there are very few edible insect species in Europe, most are poisonous. However Europeans do eat foods such as snails, frogs and seafood such as muscles and whelks, which as you said most seafood is basically sea insects. I would not have a problem introducing insects to my diet on the condition that it is sustainable. The problem is that farming insects in a cold climate is not sustainable.
>where did humans "evolve to eat meat"?The ice age. In areas far from the equator humans would not have survived during the winter if all they ate was plants. Humans do not have ruminant digestive systems, our digestive systems are closer to that of a carnivore because we are omnivores.
>literally anyone who is noneuropean who lacks the genetic deformity that allows them to properly digest cheeseLactose intolerance is not a argument for veganism. Many countries where the majority of the population are lactose intolerant still eat meat, fish and eggs.
>elaborate on what it is you'd like me to proveName any civilization that survived for any amount of time purely on plants.
>the assumption that people who are vegan for these purposes listed above don't already carefully plan/consider what they put into their bodiesBecause this is evidently true. Most vegans I know eat processed vegan foods and have no concept of nutrition. To them food is food and they do not understand the link between diet and health. If you do you are in the minority of vegans just as I am in the minority of meat eaters. Nutritional ignorance is how most people regardless of diet exist.
>pure burgerlander nonsenseI'm not American and I agree that the state of the American food industry is dire.
>the fact that vegan bodybuilders, weightlifters, and weighttrainers exist is argument enough against this notion that veganism = malnutrition inherently when there are plenty of "omnivores" and self proclaimed "carnivores" who sustain themselves off of animal products yet are still underweight, overweight, or malnourished because they only eat DoorDash and McDonalds, aka most Burgerlanders.Comparing a select few to the majority of the population that eats a standard western diet is disingenuous. There are also carnivore athletes and body builders, I could compare them to the average vegan and make the same argument. As I have already stated most people are ignorant to their own nutritional needs regardless of diet.
No. 1471051
>>1471021>genuine question - hypothetically speaking, say that we lived in a world where for the past almost 5 decades we had scientific evidence and data showing that consuming [REDACTED] leads to increased heart disease, liver/stomach cancers, lymphatic diseases, increased risk of heart failure, diabetes, etc.
The areas with the highest life expectancy eat the most meat. Keto/carnivore diets are scientifically proven to reverse diabetes. Studies are not
valid unless the methodology is provided and the researchers declare conflicts of interest and funding sources. Just as the meat industry pays for biased studies, the chemical industry and sugar industry do the same. Comparing someone who only eats organic meat to the average vegan eating soy slop is going to favour the carnivore just as comparing an vegan who only eats organic vegetables to someone that eats junk food is going to favour the vegan. Also French Paradox.
>let's also say that with the current industry that allows [REDACTED] to be created and sold, it is responsible for over 80% of not just agricultural, but industrial water consumption, 90%…Dairy is being replaced by soy in most baby formula and the same problem still exists. Corporations will do whatever they want in order to generate profit.
>milk/dairy/meat products in AmericaI'm not American and yes American food industry very bad.
>it is fine and dandy to continue consuming dead animal flesh bred in those circumstancesFactory Farming is not the only method of farming animals. A cow can be put in field and will not require anything else. It's natural, organic and sustainable. The American dependence on factory farming is an exception as most countries still rely on traditional methods of farming such as pasture raising livestock and crop rotation. There are some parts of the world where it isn't possible to grow large amounts of plants but is possible to use that land as pasture.
No. 1471076
>>1471038The point is that plants don't naturally contain an essential vitamin while meat does. I was also making a point for the other anon who says that some civilizations were able to survive and thrive on a vegan diet when it would be impossible without artificially fortifying some vegan foods.
>>1471030>However Europeans do eat foods such as snails, frogs and seafood such as muscles and whelks, which as you said most seafood is basically sea insects.Exactly, I myself have eaten frogs kek. The fact that they always make these blanket statements without research and call everyone an obese burger tells you all you need to know.
No. 1471130
>>1471074She didn't say
>plants have vitamins in themshe said
>Especially vitamin K in leafy greensWhich is an absolutely retarded statement to nitpick. I've never accused anyone of being male on lolcow until now but this is exactly like arguing in circles with moids. You're just making shit up and moving the goalposts to be "right" and "win" the conversation.
No. 1471184
>>1471016The only reason it's not present when we eat plants anymore is the same reason livestock has to be supplemented so that they get enough of it too. The soil has changed.
>>1471165nta but the omnivore part should be taken literally. Including dirt. Other apes will literally eat hands full of dirt to combat deficiencies. Which obviously has downsides besides being unpleasant, like parasites. Just because we can, doesn't mean we should when there are health risks and better sources are available.
>>1471181Cats are obligate carnivores and need meat. Dogs aren't and can survive on a plantbased diet, but it's not the healthiest for them and animal product based is better, unless a vet says other wise. There are instances where vets will prescribe plantbased food in specific situations.
No. 1471407
CONSPIRACIES-R-US (dumb af channel name + redditor-sounding moid so not posting directly) has been mentioning the esoteric character BOB (Mister/Mista Bob Dobalina) at the end of otherwise boring mud flood videos for some time now. Bob has been mentioned in lyrics from The Monkees to ICP and a freemason ftm looking rap artist named "Del the Funky Homosapien". Also these Doritos commercials and B.o.B the newer ftm rapper. Also the Illuminati card game features Bob. It seems to be based on a parody religion (based on tranny cult) from the 60s/70s called "Church of the SubGenius", featuring mascot J.R "Bob" Dobbs. For whatever reason, the Conspiracies r us guy is stretching a simple google search over the course of several years and videos but an interesting topic nonetheless. People see freemasonry coding, 11 & 33 (0s are removed) in the word "BOB" and also two hourglasses. "What time are we meeting Bob?" - "3:30!" - Dorito's commercial. It's also an anagram for Mobster Diablo which is pretty neat.
>>1471300I have this Bob thing or more tranny cult stuff, you decide.
Oh and I noticed the covid vaccine insert/pamphlet that comes with the vaccines (the allegedly blank document) shows the gene ID for the Rhesus Monkey (702174). They're used during research for vaccines but odd it would be the only number on the document at all. So you're supposed to discover and react to this for the next sequence of events to happen, I think. Or a blue check tranny will first, since they think you guys are really dumb. Anyone can verify this on bitchute by searching "blank inserts" and finding the southern ftmoid in a video titled "Moderna Insert Exposed"! So that's a third option../ and the most glorious for that reason! - autistic mason trannies kkKeeekkkeeehhh
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>>1471179such a laughably BS argument. I’m sure you advocate for slinging our shit at each other because we evolved from species that did that too huh. newsflash: if your false superiority complex over entire species that you think grants you dominion to mass breed, rape, and slaughter them for your 1 moment of pleasure to be shit out is built on the premise of “we are more intelligent / sentient therefore superior”, you should be evolved and intelligent enough to realize that as such a species we are far beyond “canine teeth” being an argument for continuing to eat, and I repeat, 90% factory farmed meat that is wrapped up in plastic and bought at your local mass superstore food chain. That is the furthest thing from natural or akin to our evolution. Meaters truly are the brain rotten ones.
No. 1471456
>>1471440Also I wanna add that the reason most people are fat is because of their portion sizes and not drinking water with their meals to partially fill themselves. You need to learn when you are actually hungry versus when you are just craving foods.
Another thing I’ve noticed is that a lot of people who are fixated on meals and savory foods (like meat, pasta, pizza) are fatter than people like me who highly prefer pastries and sweets. I’m sure there are some exceptions, this is just my observation. My aunt is 102 and has the same appetite where she eats like a bird for pretty much any full meal (very little) but snacking on pastries when she occasionally gets the chance to. We both don’t like alcohol either which again is something I notice people who gain weight are often into.
No. 1471467
>>1471165True. The purely plant based hominids died out. The ice age was more of an example of when eating meat was essential. If humans were herbivores they would not have survived.
>>1471181Remember when Pheobe Tickner adopted a cat and then fed it vegan diet. It became sick and died within less than a year.
>>1471184>The soil has changed.It's called soil depletion and repeatedly using land for growing crops is the cause. Leaving land to pasture reverses soil depletion.
>>1471436Not every meat eater eats factory farmed meat. Alternatives to factory farmed meat exist, are the norm in some countries and can even be found in America.
>>1471465People are fat because they consume more calories than they burn.
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>>1471467Crops for the giant herds of two ton humans grazing constantly? Or would it be the cows who are unnecessary, that Brazil is clearcutting rainforests to accommodate. The rest is clickbait propaganda and more Bella Morte indignant self righteousness. Not the anon but these replies are so funny and typical.
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>>1471473nta but as stated somewhere upthread, the majority of soy being grown is used to feed livestock.
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>>1471473So the solution should be less people, which will never happen because of immigration. It's funny how we collectively had less kids, probably hoping the bright side would be more opportunities and bargaining power eventually. Instead our governments just replace the children we didn't or couldn't have with third world adults and their families. Mildly ot but I'm from the Canada thread and really angry about this right now. Maybe we can talk about that again, in addition to the veganism sperging?
No. 1471492
>>1471480A cow eating grass in a field does not require soy because it eats grass. And again you are referring to America when it has already been established that the American food industry is bad. Globally less than 2% of all soy is fed to cattle.
https://www.allaboutfeed.net/animal-feed/raw-materials/the-soybean-situation-2021-and-beyond/The majority of soy is used to sustain industrial poultry farms for cheap chicken.
No. 1471496
>>1471484immigration ≠ higher population, it just means higher population density in areas people are emigrating to.
the children we're 'not having' arent being replaced with immigrant kids, dont be ridiculous. you sound like a white supremacist. obviously in an ideal world there would be better education in poorer countries, better access to contraceptives, and overall less incentive to have large families. we already see the link between rich countries and a decline in birth rate.
all populations should have less children. since birth rates are declining in the west, we should make efforts to improve conditions in countries with high birthrates so they too can lower their birthrates.
No. 1471506
>>1471484>>1471489I don't think Europeans understand how
fucked they are, even other thirdies know better than letting fucking Muslims of all the people into their countries
No. 1471512
>>1471489Canada has the highest immigration rate in the western world. They are all from India and China. Entire cities have become majority Indian or Chinese in like two decades. We only have 4 or 5 functional cities and the healthcare system is crumbling because our idiot government let in too many people at once without the infrastructure to support it, anywhere. We also let in UNLIMITED students who can work 40 hours a week and rent all the housing in our small towns, making the rates comparable to Toronto (NYC). We have a temporary foreign worker program dedicated to undercutting Canadian wages, with tax subsidies and grants to employers who scab us and hire paj**ts. This in addition to the 500K record amount PER YEAR we are letting in until our overlords reach 100 million. By the way, this is a committee run by a nomadic scumbag billionaire, Dominic Barton called "The Century Initiative".
Not to mention our Minister of Immigration openly states in a presser that record immigration will help to keep wages down for decades. Birth rates are declining because 1 bedroom apartments are $1800-2200/month here, GDP per capita is lower than the poorest states in the US and cost of living is higher than NY/CA. They're cramming us into shoeboxes when we all grew up in single family homes, in nice friendly communities. Anyways go suck a dirty neoliberal cock, I'm only posting this info for others to see.
No. 1471531
>>1471506I think Sweden is beginning to understand however most still view people with the opinion of focusing on the people living there and less on immigrants from third world countries like Pakistan or Albania which often bring criminals or people with outdated views or other harmful thinking/behaviour and don't integrate to the culture of the country they are immigrating. While not all of them are bad, however most of the bad eggs are men that are chauvinistic pigs and think they are the most blessed beings on earth with everyone else the dirt on their shoes expect their sons of course.
When someone mentions this, they get called a racist, supremacist and more.
>>1471496Like she said in the ideal world, third countries would better their schooling system and more. Which I honestly can´t see happening unless the countries stops helping the rich or with the help a of someone else who is willing to spend money to help
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>>1471512the US is just starting to pump the breaks on unlimited immigration for both low skill and high skill immigrants. Predditors think Canada is trying to become a Switzerland-like tax haven and playground for rich people and phase out having a high population of residents. does that seem like an exaggeration? it seems like the US is trending towards that direction, having peasant citizenry apart of a nation is unnecessary when the rest of the world can invest in labor that you can then poach when needed
No. 1471543
>>1470726What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo.
No. 1471549
>>1471536Honestly this is like a fairy tale to me but how could it be true? I've noticed the comments on Sean Fraser's twitter are almost all from angry immigrants who can't get their applications processed or are living in the country but it's very backlogged. Do you suppose increasing
targets while actually lowering the real rate could cause this, in a COL/housing crisis? That would be a pretty good way to sway a too-tolerant population into what we're becoming now. Please tell me more, I don't care if it's real.
No. 1471595
>>1471484>>1471512I posted this in another thread but it fits here as well, Just as Butler did with sex, Edward Said did the same with culture(he even criticized western feminists for imposing their patriarchy on poor colonized people)
the problem with Orientalism and Post-Colonialism as a political project is that these types of people are essentializing themselves in addition to pointing out how they have been essentialized by others and they're doing this because they are in the business of promoting their own racial and ethnic traditions as conceived of as outside the imperial influence and control of the West. No matter how backward they may be. And in doing so they also reject the Enlightenment concepts of Evidence, Reason, Universal Humanity, any and all Rights that can be derived from such concepts, etc. So what you're left with is this kind of parochialism and particularism which can't go anywhere.
And yet they also simultaneously demand to be included within the purview of the Enlightenment tradition, protected by its normative and ethical frameworks and institutions, etc. It's just a grift at the end of the day. They exist within a space that has been carved out just for them to stew in bitterness and resentment and to keep people from actually joining together and mobilizing against the capitalist system.
No. 1471682
>>1471484maybe instead of falling for overpopulation theory, an individual-centered idea that pushes blame to faceless humans you can dehumanize under just the label of “immigrants” being responsible for the “overpopulation of the world” you could stop falling for classist / fascist propaganda, especially in the tinfoil thread of all places, you know, somewhere for “alternative ideas” not something that reinforces the current imperialist / nationalist status quo of the fucked up world superpowers of this decaying planet.
you wanna worry about human overpopulation and look for someone to blame? you should be pointing your fingers at celebrity bloodline births, only getting more and more popular with the rise of sensationalist headlines promoting stories like Nick Cannons almost 2 dozen kids he doesn’t take care of or how Elon is trying to “spread his seed” to the next generation of humans. It doesn’t just end with those two billionaires. You’re honestly kidding yourself if you think falling for the mainstream media, FOX News backed mediocre westerner viewpoint of “immigrants bad” and using overpopulation / environmentalism as an argument to deny immigrants their basic humanity (when most of us will be immigrants in our lifetimes due to climate catastrophe) is not just laughable, but sick and out of touch, when the millionaire kabal that plans to breed their own royal bloodline, rape the rest of the earth into nothing, and then leave with their billionaire buddies on a spaceship to go terraform and destroy another planet once this one is done are blameless.
They’re the ones who want you to be regurgitating the immigration = degradation nonsense, because it allows us to continue to ignore immigration, and the fact that the majority of it works in congruence with countries that the US purposefully tanks with coups and militarized violence, or that most of those nameless faceless “immigrants” you’re able to so easily pin the blame on are the same people we should be helping the most / relating to the most, considering their displacement due to violence, imperialism, and especially climate catastrophe is something a lot of us in the west will experience as the veil gets lifted.
if you’re defending the status quo maybe you’re not as tinfoil as you thought
No. 1471761
>>1471747>they have no intention of contributing to the country that takes them or integrating into societyWhat really stands out to me is that in my experience, this tends to only be true for the men and not the women. I've been in close contact with quite a few 1st and 2nd generation Muslim immigrant families due to my job, and the women always work really hard both career-wise and with raising kids, and put in effort to learn the language. Meanwhile the men don't raise a finger and are delinquents, criminals or deadbeat dads.
The Muslim women I know would also never push their beliefs onto anyone else and respect different cultures, unlike the men. Once again it's the scrotes ruining it for everyone. I wouldn't mind more muslim immigrants at all if it was just the women coming here.
No. 1471791
>>1471747Western men are actively taking your rights for abortion away and women only spaces away and letting mentally ill
abusive men into your country yet still don't understand that women getting harassed is their goal.
No. 1471926
>>1471761>>1471747Britfag here, you are both absolutely correct. Even the ones that
do work are still unable to socially integrate into western culture and face absolutely no consequences for that.
>>1471682>are the same people we should be helping the most / relating to the mostNta but why do I feel like you (and I also have a feeling you're the same vegfag who writes novels) have never actually experienced or witnessed any of the numerous downsides to mass uncontrolled immigration kek, it's always the socially inept retards who sperg on about muh handholding for muh immigrants when they've never actually seen the consequences of it, "classist/fascist propaganda" okay sis I dare you to walk the streets in any immigrant-heavy town in the UK and still have that same opinion after the moids look at you like you're straight up meat and force their wives full-niqab into the back of cars - why would I extend my help towards boats of moids that can't even be arsed to integrate into society and moids who shove women under the bus and subjugate them purely based on muh culture/muh religion?
If you want to help and relate to any immigrants your only option is the women and girls - they are the ones who have consistently proven time after time that they can integrate into society and contribute to the community. The moids are too busy molesting young white working-class girls (will you cry classism for this one too? Probably not, right?) before going home to beat their wives and daughters and taking their Compulsory Do-Not Molest Teenagers classes because they're too fucking evil to comprehend the fact that women actually have rights over here. Why are you simping for moids that would sooner behead you for revealing an ankle than actually put something back into society over here?
>if you’re defending the status quo maybe you’re not as tinfoil as you thoughtIf you're defending degenerate scrotes who cannot do the bare minimum to integrate into a new society then maybe you suffer from mental retardation. Just a thought.
No. 1472213
>>1471682This is literal lib nonsense. Obviously inmiration is the fault of the elites, as they keep third world counties as their little playgrounds for extremely cheap labor and sex tourism. If some places are literally unlivable it's all their fault. However, both things can be true and the same elites that are causing the displacement in some places of the world ALSO are weaponizing inmigration as a way to destroy other countries. Plain and simple.
Your misconcepcion is born from two (liberal) lies. The frist, that the destrucction comes from the mere presence of inmigrants/we're talking about destrucction because we we consider that there is an inferior culture (inmigrants) subrogating some superior culture (euros) and while i'm sure that there are some /pol/ pozzed autists that think this way, that's not the point. Immigration has existed since the beginning of time, but what is happening in Europe is no regular inmigration. Again, it's a weaponization of inmigration meant to break the spirit of both natives and inmigrants. It's not a bug, it's a feature.
The other lie is that inmigrants are "poor, tried thirdies who just want a job and some peace" when the actual poor and tried people who just want a job and some peace simply doesn't have the means to flee to Europe. It's either criminals, the former middle/upper middle class or semi human traffic
victims. Almost all of them considered useless fucks in their homecountries and for a good reason (but that's not the point)
You can't build a community with none of these people and your government knows about it. That's literally the whole fucking point of why they're here. "No but actually if we tried enough and we wish it really hard it would happen" no, the european immigration program is specifically designed so that integration never happens. It's straight up incompatible with it, and pity and "empathy" is going to led you nowhere again a system
that is specifically built to never work.. It needs a deep reform, for starters. And maybe a few years of closing the borders so you all can clean up the mess. It's not going to be easy or pretty, but wignats are right on that one (for the wrong reasons, but still right)
And i'm not even touching the subject of muslim males, literal threats. Every woman in the world except sheltted western girls know they're bad news, wonder why.
No. 1472219
>>1471943You're my star
nonnie xx
No. 1472257
>>1471926you literally determine other human beings worth off of if they were born within the madeup imaginary borders of whatever western imperialist state you inhabit while clutching your pearls about made up scenarios you create in your own mind about entire populations of men and people you’re admittedly too scared to even interact with lol, yet are talking to someone who has grown up their entire lives surrounded by immigrant populations and has been fine and describing them as “sheltered”. god you pearl clutching white bread nonas really are all the same huh? when libs say white feminism, this shit is exactly what they mean.
you’d rather entire sects of women you know are struggling and are facing conditions your anxieties can’t even fathom be stuck in countries with the men terrorizing, brutalizing and raping them rather than god forbid an immigrant live in your neighborhood and “the consequences that come from them and refusing to integrate” as if you being someone who lurks this board even goes outside to interact with other people to begin with. then sit privileged in image boards feeling sorry for what they endure and acknowledging it yet still demonizing them as a people simply because your surveillance state of choice told you to. cute. if you can handle it without pissing yourself I urge you to go outside, and if you can, interact with these scawwy immigwants making you so concerned for your safety. I’ve lived in this country surrounded by immigrants of all types for decades and have felt safer around them than I ever have the white men and fundamentalist Christian men of the country who are deemed “legal” or citizens.
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>>1472257You're missing the point being made. No one is complaining about women or genuine refugees. Several anons have already commented that immigrant women are not the problem, just as no one has said anything negative about refugees from Ukraine where there is horrific war happening. The problem is fighting age muslim men that have no reason to come to Europe other than that they think they will be given a free and easy life. They have no intention of ever doing anything positive. They view Europeans as animals and see women as rape fodder. What they think of other minorities is even worse. Refugees that came to Europe to escape persecution from muslim scrotes now face the exact same problem along with the native population. It's like the elites are intentionally spreading a disease.
I don't know why some anons have a pathological need to cape for muslim moids.
No. 1472271
>>1472257>entire populations of men and people you’re admittedly too scared to even interact with lolI literally live in an English town and hail from a council estate with a huge percentage of immigrant males and I've seen firsthand how everyone looked the other way when it came to grooming gangs, child molestation and one of my own friends from the poorfag estate I grew up with was passed around by degenerate scrote immigrants and no one did shit about it, and when few people
did try to speak up they got called Islamophobic because it was apparently so wild and crazy for moids who hail from countries where women are literal property to re-enact the same shit over here. So please, tell me more about how I'm so ~cloistered ignorant white feminist pearl clutcher~ just because I can acknowledge the reality of males regardless of where they come from.
It's funny how you also ignored the part where I said:
>If you want to help and relate to any immigrants your only option is the women and girlsI am more than happy for immigrant women and girls to come over because they are actually kind decent human beings and know how to fit into and contribute to society - those women and girls deserve a chance to live their best life over here, how is that shit white feminism? The fact I care about and would welcome them is not good enough for you though, is it? Because you're so hellbent on sucking brown bollocks you cry "muh imperialism!!" every time nonnas on here rightfully call out the disgusting actions of these men and the way they treat their women and western women too.
>white men and fundamentalist Christian men of the country who are deemed “legal” or citizensI hate these scrotes too kek I'm glad you feel safer around your immigrant scrotes than these types but that's not every woman's experience and the fact you want to shit your pants and cry about western imperialism every time we dare to have criticisms of men who come from dogshit misogynist extremist countries is just pathetic, have you finished munching on the scraps of their foreskin yet or will you just reply with another novel's worth of "you're white and a pearl clutcher for saying brown scrotes are still scrotes!!" just fuck off you sausage, you literally have no idea what you're talking about and the fact you're reducing the lived experience of women who have faced misogyny from these degenerates as "pearl-clutching" is more reason why you should crawl back to whatever twitterfag hellhole you came from. Or better yet do what another nonna said and go to Pakistan and preach this shit but they'd sooner rope you for not wearing hijab than ever treat you as human.
No. 1472384
>>1472310Ngl nonna I unfortunately know a few women who would defend muslim moids because they see them as
victims or something. Then again, those women have a very jihad-tinted glasses view of Islam in general and are very naive to the misogynist ways of that culture and religion. They love to turn the other way and cry "pearl-clutching white women" when Muslim men turn out to be…well, typical men kek. The XY parasite is global, it doesn't discriminate.
No. 1472651
>>1471587Look at what happened with Germany’s Cologne attacks and their response to the attacks as they happened.
>>1472408Is this pakichan? Idk why anons are playing dumb tween the religion that actually tells men to rape non Muslim women and there’s plenty of historical evidence of how Muslim scrotes treat women. Women can’t even get a divorce and live in peace without their brothers or fathers stalking them and murdering them via honor killing. All Muslim men are an imminent danger to Muslim women especially and a scourge upon the earth.
No. 1472856
>>1472651no that wasn't me but your claim is correct, if you are a non-Muslim woman Muslim men are religiously justified to rape you, its not considered a sin to rape a non-Muslim woman, as long as said rapist makes her one of his wives or concubines
you see to "take" kafir women is considered a form of Jihad and it's been a driving factor in Islamic slavery, to capture non-Muslim women not for economics but for "pleasure"
Moro Muslims used to raid the Philippines for slavery to capture non-Muslim women, the Sokoto Caliphate with Nigeria, the Barbary pirates, the Turkic raiders towards India and many other examples
basically to raid and steal the possessions of kafirs including women and children is not just allowed its considered a righteous form of Jihad, cause Muhammad(the greatest human being who will ever exist according to Islam) and his companions did this in their war against the Quraysh and their tribes, they raided their cravens and took money and women
I think the worst story is that of Safiyya bint Huyayy, she was one of Muhammad's wives
she belonged to a Jewish tribe whose great sin was supporting the Quraysh, before they could be a threat Muhammad and his followers attacked, her tribe was mascaraed and her husband was tortured and killed for refusing to give up the location of their finances
Muhammad married her and raped her after 3 days
these are the actions of the greatest human being in the world according to Islam, this is why Islamic morality cannot exist, this is why basic human concepts like equality, feminism or basic human rights could not ever come out of the Islamic world cause Islamic morality will always revert to 7th century Arabia
No. 1472861
>>1472858Yeah and they also do that shit in poor catholic countries, it's not about Islam it's about your third world country not valuing women at all. The immigrant men thankfully can't force non-muslim women to marry them in England or Germany because laws protect women better there.
Also you aren't allowed to have sex without marriage at all so men aren't allowed to rape women according to Islam, yet they do it because the laws let them.
No. 1472880
>>1472856Based pakichan
>>1472878She's right. Sikhs are not known for committing rape. When I lived near Telford I had Sikh men step in and protect me from muslim moids. Sikhs are themselves often targets of muslims and muslims will groom and rape Sikh and Hindu girls. It happens not only in South East Asia, it's also known to happen in the UK.
>You'll always be perceived as one of those Muslims you hate no matter how hard you try.So you're now denigrating a muslim woman for telling the truth?
No. 1472887
>>1472883Making ten or so posts about how you want to be a slave to a nazi man isn't shitposting. Defending white
abusive men time and time again isn't shit posting. Hating on white women just because you're jealous they're white isn't shitposting.
You'll never be white, never be blonde, never be pretty and never be European no matter how many white men you defend. You'll die in your shit country married to your cousin because instead of working hard like other women of color, you spend your time online fighting with women and trying to score shitty white men.
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Even as a child I hated when someone tried to make a photo of me and I ran away the moment someone was pulling out their camera/phone and I don't have any photos of myself except for my ID and from my very early childhood and maybe I was right all along kek
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>>1472892The nazi man paki wants to be enslaved by caught simping for a Muslim man, kek
No. 1472900
>>1472887>>1472892>>1472894Do you also think the posts about wanting to fuck Jimmy Saville and Jeffery Epstein on /g/ are also 100% serious and without a hint of irony?
>>1472895Nope. I'm a European with blonde hair and blue eyes.
>>1472896The actual Nazis as in German National Socialists didn't hate black people. There were Black SS officers. Nazis viewed slavs and jews as being subhuman while holding other races in high regard. Hitler even dedicates paragraphs in Mein Kampf to his admiration of the Japanese and Chinese.
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>>1472887>>1472887>you want to be a slave to a nazi mancan you show me an example of this, barring the one shitpost I made
>>1472892>and hating white womenshow me an example where I express hatred against white women, my complaint was that I was annoyed that people were acting like the ross of roe v wade was akin to the Taliban rule
No. 1472908
>>1472880She is definitely a muslim women
They are no better than their men
No. 1472911
>>1472907what, you create so much fan fiction about me that I don't know where you get this, when did I say that we were supposed to be married and he's like 13 you fucking moron
>>1472908outwardly I have to present as Muslim, to not be murdered by my state, but I'm agnostic in activity
No. 1472917
>>1472913Paki would fuck a statue if you glued a beard to it, lmao. She admits she hates paki men because they can't grow a proper beard more than she complains about their
abusive nature.
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>>1472913my full comment btw, but its exactly what I still believe and as I state over six months back, it was a shitpost
>he has a nice beard but I do not like bald men, I just wanted to shitpost and mess with people, I just don't take him seriously, I don't take any of the alt right types cause they are such non-issues for most of the wolrd, its why I found it the whole concept of the "we are gonna end up handmaidens tale" ridiculous and comical, like I wish I could explain in my own toune the exact factors and well established comprehensive belief systems that led to "regression" in what is now in the Islamic world in the late 20th century, but every time I try to explain this point "that yes misogyny exists in the west but in our case we are dealing with an unchanging and umcomprising code of civil and personal laws that have remained stagnant for 1400 yeaes and can survive 4000 years more, if it's not wiped out by the state with repression, so our battles are not at all same ballpark" I get accused with accusations about how I don't understand anything and I'm in a rude awakening when I experience misogyny in the west "I know it exists you Idiots, I wasn't even arguing about that, I was trying to explain my view points">>1472914really dragging ex-muslim women, are you that willing to defend the religion of the Arab pedophile
>>1472917I don't understand this, Why do people do this, I am well aware that its not a major issue there are a quintillion things wrong with my country, I'm just saying something that I see daily and dislike, I see a 100 awful beards everyday and I have gotten a complex where I just want a man who grow a proper one
>>1472926>Very brave of you to call others pedos when you're the one who posted cp and fantasized about getting married to your 13 yo cousin.what are you on about ?
No. 1472947
>>1472937I don't even know If I ever will leave, the one chance I had was staying with my cousin and then trying to claim asylum but the economic crisis in my country ended that chance, even If I had the money I can't simply leave without my parents knowing, so I just have to wait, I have a some more years before my parents will make me get married, so I still have a chance
>>1472943are you retarded ?
>>1472945I grew up in a military bases but I live in the city now, only the few foreigners here have good beards and the local sindhi men have the worst patches of pubes I have seen on men and I never said all Pakistani men have bad beard genes, my dad's side of the family all have straight full bearded facial hair but 70% of paki moids(especially in the cties) don't
(ENOUGH ALREADY!) No. 1472952
>>1472947i dont understand whats your infatuation is with white men, i think you dont realize abroad pakis tend to be 10 times more oppressive than the pakis based here . also what would you choose to have asylum? being exmuslim? are you in threat? or has the police targeted you? aslyum cases are very difficult to win unless youre lgbt or are actively targeted in your home country .
as for the sindhi men (no shit theyre farmers they dont give a shit how they look)
No. 1472955
>>1472923I am talking about other muslim women
they think similar to their moids, they just don't yell it at your face unlike their moids
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>>1472950I was bored but I was only kinda sorta her, see there was a "(c)rap chan", whose post patterns and selective history I noticed and so I sorta wanted to mess with her but I ended up messing with everyone by becoming her cause she never came back
>>1472952I'm not attracted to just white men, my type is more Caucasoid
straight or wavy hair, can grow a full beard, high nose ridges, thin to medium lips, white to brown skin, like picrel is my type
It doesn't matter if its a blonde white man or a swarthy seraiki or a jatt
This is what men should be like physically
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>>1472957fellow paki chan …..that picrel is 60% of pakistani men….what are you on about? i thought you meant paki men like him…
No. 1473002
>>1472996>>1472998original crap-chan was British though, that's a detail about her I remember
>>1472969come on, you know that's not the case, most are skinny-fat, have pube beards and pregnant looking bellies, you posted a northern actor
No. 1473014
>>1473008Ngl I would too. Whoever posted that guy has leagues better taste than pakichan.
>>1473011I'm not a westerner try again.
No. 1473024
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Alright so what's the deal with Bill Gates, he was on Epstein's plane but he seems and takes way too much interest in world affairs, also I swear everyone seems to think Bill Gates grew up working class when he was the son of a literal millionaire lawyer
No. 1473041
Can you all please stop spamming the thread with this paki-chan shit? It's not even remotely related to tinfoil, take it elsewhere, at least the vegan sperging was relevant but I'm tired of you retards clogging up threads because you can't stop replying to her
>>1473024He's definitely sus. I don't trust any moid with that amount of money (not that I trust moids in general anyway). When you're male and have
that much wealth you're almost guaranteed to be involved with some sketchy shit.
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Ughhhhh I'm going insane I'm about to become the joker
No but seriously, what are your thoughts on gnosticism, anons?
Personally, I've always felt like everything around me was fake. I remember having those thoughts even as a 5 year old. I was an atheist from 12 to 16/17. I was pretty neutral on religion until I started observing the crazy roman catholics in my country and reading about the church and its history, then I entered my edgy reddit atheist phase and jerked off to Four Horsemen. I was around 17 at that time and started studying the bible out of curiosity, just to know my "enemy" better. I got into "conspiracy theories" like 2 years prior that and found it weird how many influential figures and movements, including the nazis, were into occult shit. I was interested why powerful people believe in symbols so much, why is there masonic symbolism all over the supposedly "christian" churches. Reading the bible, it occurred to me that the belief that Yahweh and Jesus are the same entity doesn't make any fucking sense. Their ideologies and approaches are totally different. Also the god of old testament is sadistic and narcissistic. So I came to the conclusion that a) either the god of this book is a schizo with split personality disorder or b) Yahweh is literally satan himself disguised as god and fucking with people and Jesus is an entirely separate entity (the new testament says that satan is the god of this world). I came to this conclusion before I even knew that something like gnosticism existed. Of course, there are certain books that were not included in the bible, the church omitted some stuff, but that was the picture painted by the version we got. The more I observed the world, and the more I read on gnosticism and analyzed the bible, the more everything seemed fake and aligning perfectly with my conclusions. My antinatalist worldview also fitted in this. Sometimes I regret I wasn't raised as a meme roman catholic completely oblivious to everything and never analyzing anything. My life would've been easier. Or I could stay an atheist. Everything was so simple, clear yet wonderful and I felt no anxiety at all. Discovering faith as an almost adult atheist and going through all that shit and being fully aware is much worse and there's no going back. You can't unsee certain things. I'm happy there are atheists who also see that people in power are into occult stuff. You may not believe the entity we call "satan" or "lucifer" is real, all that should matter to you is the fact that they believe it's real and they do terrible things in the name of that faith. And if you try to analyze it deeply, as I did as an atheist, you're getting closer to believing. I will never try to convince anyone though, I don't believe you should force anyone to believe in anything. If you're meat to find something, you will find it without anyone's help. I won't shit on atheists either. Jesus said to leave pagans/non believers alone (and of course, the church didn't listen to him). So, just some food for thought.
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>>1473203the aspects of gnosticism that say there's a narcissistic psycho demiurge currently in control of this world resonate with me, but i hate how even tho gnosticism admits there's a mother god it still is a female blaming religion. the abomination is apparently all Sophia's fault for "creating without her consort" fuck outta here. the truth is she was raped. let me explain.
occultists often say "as above so below". im sure all of us in this thread have heard that one. what do we see "below"? we see men taking credit for creation. we see men exploiting women, using us as domestic labor, as sex slaves, as broodmares. we see men denying our humanity. we see men trying to usurp our very being in the form of trannyism. and that's exactly what went on "above."
see, there's 2 main forces in physical manifestation much like down here in human procreation. there's the outward pushing spermlike "spirit" or light, and there's the womblike inward drawing magnetic force. the magnetic force is like will or desire and it draws forth light to experience and illuminate what it contains. and much like women should be the mate selectors for humanity, the mother god (mater-ix) ideally would select what light she's "impregnated" with and how much. unfortunately, father god like most men is a selfish sexually exploitive fuck, decided her wants and needs were to be disregarded and his wants and needs were to supercede hers. he wanted to manifest whatever HE wanted without her input. so he used, abused and took advantage of her role in reproduction. sound familiar?
this resulted in timeline after timeline where she ultimately suffers immensely and often dies. these fucking religions where the goal is to ~transcend~ physicality and emotions are contributing to her ongoing suffering withtheir dismissal of her importance. she IS physicality and emotion and she NEEDS to be seen, heard, and loved and felt, not abandoned. this idea that "there must be Dark to counter Light uwu" is a half truth. there's a limit to how much and what kind of dark we should tolerate. difficult emotions? sure. rape and torture esp of women and girls? NO!! HARD FUCKING LIMIT!! yet for unfathomable lengths of time this belief has dominated spiritual understanding and led to so much suffering and death and irreparable harm. we lumber along like we have every right to just keep manifesting and manifesting what our conscious thinking mind thinks we want or need, unaware that by denying our will and unconscious and denying what Mother asks for we just impregnate her body again and again with meaningless shit instead of respecting her powers as the amazing gift to us that they are. utter disrespect. MANIFEST WITH RESPECT!!
black magic is rape. black magic uses demons and less than ideal light to manipulate the Mother's role in creation against her Will. black magic rapes and forces the mother to create what the user wants. the ideal scenario is creation in harmony with her Will. and ill be honest guys…at the end of the day too much dark always beats light. death begets death begets death….til everything is dead for good. what i mean is…we actually DONT have to accept demonic behavior in this reality because uwu cant have dark without light uwu. dark is willing to go where we wont and do the unthinkable to us, to mothers body. how can we justify that? how can we possibly advance spiritually against such a force of antagonism? demons are creatures who prefer being "uncreated" and to bring them forth into creation is akin to literally eating shit. they dont want to be here and when they're here they will do all they can to kill creation. they infect the mater-ix like a disease. like a serial killer there's no limit to their sick behavior. why the FUCK should we tolerate Mother as collateral to such a system?? we have been gaslit by father god into having no boundaries and into thinking that fighting back fatally is "stooping to their level". lmao as if! thats like saying shooting a scrote who is raping a woman is stooping to his level. hell no! kill all
abusive scrotes ABOVE AND BELOW. fight back with fatal intentions against all spirits that seek to destroy our beautiful Mother God. we have the right to draw a boundary and stop inviting these demonic scrote spirits into our beautiful creation! they tell you this creation "needs" them and that is a LIE. all they've ever done is fuck shit up and at some point the game will be completely over because everything is dead and traumatized.
if you havent read The Thunder, Perfect Mind from the nag hammadi yet i highly recommend it.
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What are your thoughts on Hitomi Mochizuki? She’s a YouTuber who gained notoriety for being Shawn Mendes’ personal yogi after his breakup with Camila Cabello. While videos mainly focus on veganism, new age/spiritual guidance, traveling, masturbating with Jade eggs and having her own little all-female commune whom have sex with each other might appeal to some or most of the farmers here. Hey, you do you, but something about her seems off to me and I’m not talking about her loopiness from getting high on “natural herbs” or from her vegan lifestyle either.
From watching her videos because I do like the hippie aesthetic/lifestyle, her commune gives me cult vibes and occasionally ‘accidentally’ shows off her period stains in videos while claiming letting her ‘moon blood’ flow releases negative energy - surprisingly, these videos are monetized. Forgive me if I come off as a pearl-clutching boomer for ranting but she gives me lite Marina Abramović vibes.
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I don't let any politics shilled here get to my head as I theorize this site is or will get used as a radicalization tool of sorts by the feds, I don't trust imageboards in general and I truly believe at least 15% of the userbase is paid trannies, glowies and bots. I avoided getting infected by the troon virus by refusing to interact with Tumblr since the beginning, never touched Twitter or reddit and refuse to, all websites are potential or ongoing psyops
No. 1473714
>>1473563I'm not 100% sure if this is true in the same sense because I'm only newly familiar with Sophia, but manifestation is supposed to be thinking and visualizing deeply something you desire, but then letting it go and having comfort that if it's meant to come to you it will. Kind of making a wish but in a humble sense, not enforcing an overly negative or positive feeling to it. You can't feel desperate for it and you can't feel that it will never happen, just that it will happen but you cannot worry over it.
I've never really intentionally done this, but oddly enough I've found when I do desire something but I give myself a sense of comfort that it will come while not thinking desperately for it things tend to work out. Again I'm not 100% sure on this though.
No. 1474047
>>1473957Hmm, I'd say for males it's becoming easier for them to legally express their pedophilic tendencies due to the porn industry in general. However, in terms of what beauty ideal is being shilled to women, I actually think the pendulum is starting to swing back from a pornsick, male-centric ideal (all the features you described + BBLs, breast implants, e-girl makeup, hypersexual casual fashion, "bimbo" shit), to an equally unattainable and dangerous, but less overtly male-oriented beauty ideal as evidenced by things like buccal fat removal, 90s supermodel worship, and the growing preference for an ultra thin, chiseled look in media in general.
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>>1474274>>1473024what about Soros, I have seen so much conflicting information about him and what's attributed to him
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>>1474101Pls stop baiting or I will get banned
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A Rapper was accused of spreading malformation, for voicing worries about the new mandated COVID vaccines in the UK
https://winstonmarshall.substack.com/p/mias-latest-cancellation-should-worry?sd=pf No. 1474606
>>1474416You have to be retarded. Is your moid friend a CEO of one of the top businesses in the world or working with the government or running some human trafficking system?
>>1474318KEK
No. 1474610
>>1474101No, jews are like any other ethnic/racial/religious group, the vast majority of them are ordinary people. The problem is the elites, deep state or whatever you want to call it. While some of them are jewish, there's also other religions, races etc. What connects the elites is not being jews. There used to be an askenazi anon who would post in these threads and she explained that ordinary jews get just as fucked over as anyone else.
>>1474579Even the BBC has started admitting that the vaccines don't work and are probably killing people through heart damage so this isn't even a unpopular opinion.
No. 1474867
>>1473245Nonna I am in love with you and I wish we could start a church. I've been really into occultism for the past few years and struggling to reconcile feminism with how awful and scrotey most sources are.
Maybe we should have an occultism thread, sorry for shitting up the conspiracy thread with this. But As Above So Below, I've always felt like there was mirror between Eve and Sophia. Eve is clever enough to go against the Demiurge and eat from the fruit of knowledge, is enlightened, and then Yahweh and Adam team up to fuck her over. Yahweh empowers Adam to rape Eve and her daughters for all eternity. I really love the idea that Sophia experiences the same on a higher level. Holy Sophia is raped and births evil manifestations the same way Holy Eve is raped and births the dumpster fire that is humanity. Crowley and etc continue to rape Sophia when they see this powerful spiritual energy and corrupt it into "lol I'm gonna get Leah to fuck a goat because epic MAGICK bro". That's the ultimate test for humanity. When you're enlightened enough to see the womb of the creatrix, do you rape her AGAIN or do you approach her with humility and respect?
Sorry for schizoid rambling it's just that viewing Sophia as a
victim instead of 'dumb whore who went against the REAL benevolent god (who is still male obv because the ultimate source must ALWAYS be a father)' made a lot of things fall into place.
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not really a tinfoil rather a prediction, a fact that many people don't understand is that the Soviet-Afghan war essentially created modern day Islamist militia groups, yes retarded Islamist existed back then as well but they were disorganized and most importantly they didn't know how to fight in the modern world, if some mullah declared jihad with a handful of young men from some back water village then the local regional police would crush them with in a day, however the Soviet-Afghan war changed all that
Tens of thousands of men from the Middle East, South Asia, South East Asia and North Africa went to fight, they were trained to fight in guerilla war by the CIA and they made connections with each other, which helped facilitate global Jihadist networks
when these men went back to their home countries they were hailed as heroes and they took what they had learned from Afghanistan and formed and trained groups of their own
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armed_Islamic_Group_of_Algeriahttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laskar_Jihadhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jama%27at_al-Tawhid_wal-Jihadand like a Virus all these groups splinted and more groups began sprigging up(the most famous one being ISIS) I fear the Ukraine war will have a similar effect, tens of thousands of people also going there to fight and learning how to fight, being split into groups by nationality and ideology, its not going to end well regardless if their joining up with the Ukrainians or Russians
No. 1477488
>>1477468Nta but declare that some insects are going to be considered food and therefore will be used in other products too? Many people in Europe aren't used to seeing insects as food so I think it would be nice to let people know they're eating insects (it's also legally required in some places).
>>1477093I honestly wouldn't mind eating some insects if they're good quality, I've eaten frogs and snails and we eat shrimps which are pretty much sea bugs… though I'm not sure it's going to replace meat successfully as they say, especially because the people telling us to eat bugs are most likely chewing some top quality steak as we speak.
No. 1477822
>>1474867>>1473245Do you think the Mother Mary is an example? She's a mortal woman who was forced to carry God's child when she was still just a virgin herself, had a miraculously virgin birth, only for Jesus' destiny to spread God's message and get tortured to death and explicitly 'sacrificed' for mankind, at the age of 30, never able to have a family of his own. Mary is interesting though because she is a sympathetic figure who is honored. Jesus is also a sympathetic figure and known as selfless. God comes across very selfishly in this story imo but nobody seems to address it. Though it was apparently for all of mankind that this sacrifice happened.
I don't know the symbolism of the resurrection and Mary's physical form going to Heaven whereas everyone else are souls.
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>>1477822YES 100% Mary counts too. God forcibly impregnates her, gets her to raise the child as her own and love him (at great personal cost, shortly after the birth they need to flee like fugitives from Herod), and then forces Mary to watch her own beloved child be tortured to death as part of some 'divine plan'. It's twisted and evil.
I love Mary. I don't like interpreting Christ as a 'son of God' any more than I would view the child of a rape
victim as belonging to the rapist. Imo Mary was wise and gentle, so she raised her son to be wise and gentle. We and Christ are all born broken children of the Demiurge, but Mary channeled the wisdom and grace of Sophia which then enlightened Christ (and like Christ, we too can become enlightened through Mother Mary/Mother Sophia/Mother Eve). Mary is the true "Mother of God", but I find Christianity often views her as some passive vessel that delivered God's clone. Or worse, Mary is viewed as a 'redeemed' version of the slutty Eve (because Mary did as she was told). No. God didn't redeem Mary with his magic sperm. Mary redeemed the son of a wrathful, sadistic God through her grace and wisdom.
sorry for sperg. I love this shit and I can't sperg about it anywhere else because Theology is such a sausagefest No. 1477918
>>1477488I feel like regulating those will be utter hell once using grasshopper-, cricket- and mealworm "additions" turns out to be lucrative for our super market brand overloards. Because as far as as I understand, most of those insect farms aren't based in the EU.
All of this is pretty funny, because there is barely any demand for insect food in the first place, at least in my country.
>>1477780Can't sue if it's legal or if you aren't aware you're eating them.
You WILL eat ze bugs No. 1477941
>>1474867>>1477905im
>>1473245 and i love u both (or just you if this is same anon) i genuinely cant talk abt this in real life to anyone even tho it's extremely dear to me. im actually afraid to even read all the replies i got in case anyone is belittling me because it's just that integral to my being. i would love nothing more than to have a group of women who are getting the same message i am and have a "movement" where we can empower other women, embodying mothers strength and warrior spirit for once. so tired of focusing on her weakness like all these other religions… i just want the perpetration to stop and for women to be safe goddamnit. i thought I was a lone schizo in these radical beliefs and it means the world to know other women feel the same even if youre anon. your comments are spot on. fuck crowley!!
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>>1417052>>1422460nona wtf I've also seen one of these on a local tiktok live, 31/10/22. At least a thousand people were watching & some commented on it. not into UFOs, is this a common design layout for them??
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This probably isn't that much of a crazy tinfoil, but I think that the Porygon incident is what allowed Pokemon to keep going whereas other fads would have died in the 90s. I'm not saying that they purposefully put in the seizure inducing scene, that's fucking stupid. What I'm saying is that cutting everyone off of their Pokemon addiction when the series' popularity was at its peak (the episode had the highest viewership out of all episodes at that point with 16% of real life Kanto watching it) caused kids to become more attached to it and made it stay popular for longer than it normally would have been. Plus, it was right before the holidays so all the kids would wake up on Christmas morning and see their little Pikachu toy and treasure it more because the fate of the anime (not the whole series, but I'm betting a lot of kids didn't know that) is uncertain.
As much as The Pokemon Company wants to bury it and pretend that it doesn't exist, they owe it to that episode and the damage that it caused that they're still able to continue and profit from the series.
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the jamie lee curtis longstanding rumor of being intersex/hermaphrpdite - which doesn't actually exist btw - is finally being put to rest. them is an xy
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>>1427689>>1427391sage for blogpost but a week after my 2nd pfizer shot I suddenly developed severe autoimmune symptoms, including multiple allergies and asthma, which I had no history of before. Been suffering from this for almost 2 years now. I wonder if the vaccine "worked" simply by somehow
triggering people's immune systems to become hyperactive? I rarely got sick before the vax (naturally strong immune system) but I've only been sick once since the 2nd jab… with covid ofc. family are nagging me to get vaxed again because I have asthma now! clown world
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