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Sekrit plans for world domination, sekrit klubz, government coverups and experiments, mods anti-Braco agenda, etc., etc..
Pizzagate talk is welcome!
>>490914>Alternative medicine talk is allowed right? Ok, can anyone review the bates method? Did it work for you and how long did it take for you to see results? (I wanna know mainly these two)
I looked into it when I was teenager. No, it doesn't work at all, his entire idea is based on thinking that muscles that are moving eyes around exist to squish eye and focus vision. Apparently people belived it works this way before they dissected enough eyes to discover that small muscles inside eye are stretching and squishing eye lens instead.
>And is it true that the Bate doctor thingy got banned because of angry optimetrists?
You'll can damage your sight or even go blind from following all the steps of his method but it's not banned to publish books about it or teach it. (I'll explain why later).
He or this stuff never was banned, he discovered some things that are used in medicine to this day (not related to eyes at all). Mind that he lived in times when people though depressed women should be lobotomised, medicine was shitty. I'm not sure if he was charlatan and had no remorse to blind people, or doctors weren't sure how eyes works back then.
Doctors aren't against alternative medicine, "sceptics" are doing it to appese patients who don't believe in alternative medicine. Only small number of doctors is activelly trying to ban harmfull practices. Most doctors secretly support and won't try to ban it because:
1. they're peddling it secretly, it often cost much more than mainstream medicine and in countries with free healthcare they can't really peddle unnecesary normal medicine to make loads of money.
2. people are destroying their health with those menthods and they'll spend more money on doctors later, or rather doctor are payd more from patients' insurance. (Bates method can destroy eyes so much that patient who needed eyedrops will need eye surgery)
3. it kills patients that aren't profitable, like cancer patients.
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He’s everywhere, even in metal!
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In the last thread there was discussion about the conspiracy that Lady Gaga killed/sacrificed her rival Lina Morgana and stole her whole identity/style.
I found a reddit thread with interesting claim that the conspiracy about Lina Morgana is a hoax made by Gaga's team to cover up that Gaga stole her style from singer named Ysan Roche.
Some people think that the person named Lina Morgana did not exist at all and the whole story is made up.http://e-papyrus.com/lady-gaga-created-lina-morgana-hoax-to-hide-that-she-stole-identity-from-ysan-roche/https://prblast.blogspot.com/2014/10/lady-gaga-and-music-industry-cheating.html
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She hasn't stole this specific singer's style, her team was plagiarising her outfits and sets designs left and right. They were outright copying and scamming small artists from shitty european countries (and probably asia), hoping they won't sue, to keep this illusion that lady gaga has unique style and ideas (she's basic bitch). They plagiarised a lot of designs from Katarzyna Konieczka, they commissioned her to send them costumes, then copied them and send them back, refused to credit her or pay her for designs. She leaked emails but she got publicly shamed and bullied online for being "attention seeking nobody" because she should be gratefull for beign scammed by multimillionaires, and decided to not sue. Lady Gaga never had style, it was random mess designed by her team out of any fetishy and creepy bits they saw in online artists galleries.>>492165
they're doing drugs
About the discussions online, I guess that is subjective or hard to tell. The only thing I know right now is the straight up dumbass comments on every single post relating to science that I see on facebook. And that now everyone and their mother has access to facebook, and the internet is so normalized and everyone has it in their pocket, so now anyone and everyone can comment on anything even if they know nothing about it, or have absolutely no education to begin with.
Sorry that was a partial rant. But yeah, what 00's discussions would you compare it to exactly?
It's super hard for me to know how "dumb" people were before, since in the year 2000 that would make me only 8 years old. Compared to me now at age 28 finishing up a biology degree, yeah, everyone seems fucking stupid as hell right now. But before I was a child so I have no real way of knowing.
There have definitely been some stupid things going around like cancer though that wouldn't have gone on before I guess? Like the flat earth, anti-vaxxers, anti-science, "pro life", etc. Maybe it is just because of more access to the internet than ever before
I doubt the people posting their poorly thought out opinions on facebook and Fox news articles were using internet forums (except maybe imdb, which was always a mess) in the early 00s. Now everyone and their grandma has a social media account to spew garbage and it's the cool thing to do. (Maybe comparing dumbass facebook comments to AIM would be more accurate, but still a bit off.)
Beauty standards for women have always been terrible, but plastic surgery is definitely more readily available (as is photoshop), and doctors have no shame because money. Anyone is able to edit their pictures now with a variety of apps, no photoshop knowledge required, and it's clearly very widespread. This definitely creates a more difficult expectation of women when public figures only post filtered/edited photos of unattainable bodies.
Cancel culture will always be a thing in some way, but it's different now with internet history. You couldn't exactly look up someone's twitter history of dumb shit they said in 1960. It definitely used to be easier to reinvent yourself, but nothing ever goes away on the internet. Fatty Arbuckle was a huge (kek) silent star, and was "cancelled" after being acquitted of rape in the 20s, Lucille Ball was hugely popular in the 50s because of her TV show and faced heavy backlash for being registered as a Communist (although this blew over because she didn't actually vote commie), and the Beatles were famously cancelled momentarily for the "more popular than Jesus" line. It's just more easy for this shit to occur with news networks who play soundbites over and over and out of context screenshots getting widely distributed.
I don't think misogyny and racism ever went away. Things got better, but it's always been a fight to get things that way and more of a fight just to keep them.
Overall I agree everything sucks, but I feel like it's a natural progression because everything has always sucked but now we have more ability to make it suck more.
excuse me I'm like bracofag's biggest fan
dont listen to them bracoanon, the gaze has miracles
i cant tell whether this is a gem of raw autism harvested in the wild or a scrote who feels cheated by makeup.
why would there be laws for something as trivial as hurt feefees over pictures, and how wouldn't it impede on people's freedom of expression / privacy.
reminds me of the PULL users who shit on simply Kenna because they think just bc she's popular, it puts her under the moral imperative to be a role model and not edit her pictures.
>>493183>by law, the ability to request on the unedited version of any image posted on social media
And people who get plastic surgery should be required, by law, to place a pre-surgery photo around their neck so people can compare what they used to look like. And keep a swatch of their original hair color and texture so people will recognize when it's been treated. No more shapewear and bras either, as those are also deceptions of the body which could cause someone else to feel poorly about their own.
What happened to our generation?
We were supposed to be the smart ones not falling for everything we see.
>Cancel culture will always be a thing in some way, but it's different now with internet history. You couldn't exactly look up someone's twitter history of dumb shit they said in 1960. It definitely used to be easier to reinvent yourself, but nothing ever goes away on the internet. Fatty Arbuckle was a huge (kek) silent star, and was "cancelled" after being acquitted of rape in the 20s, Lucille Ball was hugely popular in the 50s because of her TV show and faced heavy backlash for being registered as a Communist (although this blew over because she didn't actually vote commie), and the Beatles were famously cancelled momentarily for the "more popular than Jesus" line. It's just more easy for this shit to occur with news networks who play soundbites over and over and out of context screenshots getting widely distributed.
This is actually interesting to me as I am writing a short essay on radicalization and such, and I wanted to bring up cancel culture at some point in my writing.
One thing I notice about today's version of cancel culture is that it seems less about actually calling people out on their bad behavior so much as it is individuals with ego issues using another person's mistakes (perceived or not) to bolster themselves on social media and get asspats for "starting a movement".
Way back in the day, I don't think individuals were looking for infamy as much as people do today.
It's one of the reasons why I left twitter. I got tired of seeing 16-18 year olds who have been inoculated into this "culture" online, have very little understanding of how the world actually operates, picking up grown ass adults for every little thing they do and going through people's past to dredge up the retarded 2edgy5me shit they said like, ten years ago.
All while pedos and other losers who play the woke Hollywood game well get a pass because they use loaded language and pander to the collective's emotions.
This is all just me thinking out loud but it's food for thought. I'm glad I clicked on this so I can go back to my essay and add in cancel culture since I also discussed briefly virtue signaling.
Gonna ignore the law part but I want to touch on the subject. I think it's kinda fair that at least everyone has the ability to edit, and now we know and accept that everyone does
edit their photos. We're smart enough to know what we see on the internet isn't real. I think it's only if someone is in a vulnerable place or feeling overly sensitive that it is a problem.
When I see someone's edited photos on instagram and then see them in real life, I don't think they look much differently or feel anything about it. Obviously unless it were someone that did those extreme editing things to the point where they look like a different person, but I don't know anyone in real life that actually does that, and I don't think many other people do either.
So say we didn't have any editing apps. You can still distort your body, use camera tricks, or mirror to look differently anyway. And the selfie camera distorts your face too.
Is this a legit account?
The butterfly image in the icon + the Victims
Refuse Silence organization is…. interesting. If you know, you know.
Comparing a widely discredited method to restore sight by sungazing to "antivaxx" is ridiculous, what are you even doing in this thread?
There is plenty of evidence for adverse reactions to vaccines causing regression of speech and cognitive skills in children. The CDC itself even admits to seizures and brain swelling (which can and do cause brain damage) being a "rare" side effect of the MMR vaccine itself. It's been illegal to sue vaccine companies for these side effects since 1986.
There are plenty of problems with the studies that "prove" there are no statistical differences in vaccinated/unvaccinated populations, in no small part because the unvaccinated populations they study are too small. Despite claims to the contrary, the CDC themselves admitted at a congressional hearing to have never performed a study on the matter. Studies that have been performed have issues as mentioned but sometimes deliberately exclude conditions that are not specifically autism, but include rapid deterioration of speech & cognitive skills which might be misdiagnosed as autism, thus altering the results.
The problem is that autism is poorly understood. Most autistic children also have gastrointestional symptoms, which could point towards an autoimmune response, or at the very least that the disease is more systemic in nature than is often understood. I think this is probably the case with many mental disorders but that is something else entirely. Autism diagnoses have been increasing at a rapid rate and I do not thing this is just due to increased awareness. There's something in the air, water, food, dirt, and maybe vaccines. Throwing around "antivaxx" as a derogatory term helps nobody. Some of those people are insane, but many are just normal people who are cautious wrt their children. I believe a delayed vaccine schedule might alleviate some of these potential problems, and the risk of a debilitating illness caused due to delayed vaccination is likely overhyped. Remember that in the end, when you shit on these people, you're shitting mostly on mothers who have had to see their children rapidly deteriorate after a medical procedure, for which there is NO POSSIBLE LEGAL RECOURSE. Have some fucking empathy.
This. There are so many details and questions unanswered for no reason. People are always interested in crime stories to begin with, especially ongoing
crime stories. All the details are not reported anymore. I don't even know what is going on with it currently unless going to a fucking lolcow tinfoil thread now lol. That's pathetic.
What of the rest of the victims
? There had to be so many, and yet nothing about any of them? No missing children unaccounted for that were found? No families wondering where their children are or connecting them to this?
What has come of the search in his house and his computers?
What has come of his girlfriend (didn't she run away?) and the other "helpers"? The other people connected to him or the hundreds of witnesses at his parties?
I get that any victims
or witnesses will get death threats, but what is keeping them from at least speaking up while staying anonymous?
Obviously there were connections to people from foreign countries, what are the chances not even someone out of the country who knows something would speak up then? I know these people are powerful but could it really extend to having that kind of power in other countries as well?
Seriously what the fuck>>494224
And I remember everyone saying this was fake, and this thread is from 2018. With all that has happened now, who can deny this? That poor girl.
did speak up. They went to court and spoke out in legal proceedings against Epstein. However, some tried to speak out in Florida as well and the police picked 1 14 year old girl out of what? 40 who came forward? They are absolutely catching up anyone who tries to come forward and speak to them first because they're trying to keep this under wraps.
Pretty sure the FBI knows exactly where maxwell is as well as any other "helpers".
All in all my tinfoil is that he was a human trafficker being paid by the CIA so they could have dirt on powerful people and in exchange he got to live out his disgusting fantasies.
are speaking up and a lot of them have gone to the police about it. Shaun Attwood reads victim
police reports regarding the Epstein case, check out his YouTube channel. Some of the reports are stomach turning. A lot of these reports fall on deaf ears or the police/FBI do their damnedest to cover it up.
The Epstein case could very easily unravel American political society (and even has international ramifications) and there are forces at work who are actively working to keep the information suppressed.
This case is an extremely deep rabbit hole with a lot of tendrils that extend into academics, government, science, corrupt charities, eugenics, politics, etc. Victims
have been reporting this bullshit since the 80s (and even earlier) but the incredibly high social status of the perpetrators make cases like these almost untouchable. The information has been heavily suppressed for a reason….
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There are also a few articles that say a computer was removed before the FBI even raided the island, but most don't even mention that. Why did they wait so long to investigate the property? They only raided it (days) after he died, giving any accomplices plenty of time to remove incriminating evidence.
They should have more than enough evidence to charge Maxwell, but no one can find her?
So much misinformation and lack of concern about this whole case that happens to implicate a lot of celebrities/socialites/politicians.
I hear Jennifer Hudson seems to have no remorse over the deaths of her mom, nephew and brother.>>494681
True, the symbolism could be debatable but I still believe “they’re” still doing mind-control experiments on people
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I think it's kinda a similar situation to the Mars Argo/That Poppy, basically Lady Gaga took Lina's spot soon after. Otherwise she would've wrote songs and be the backup singer.
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What are farmers' thoughts on remote viewing - the "practice of seeking impressions about a distant or unseen target, purportedly using extrasensory perception (ESP) or 'sensing' with the mind"? Have any anons ever had an experience involving remote viewing, or tried your hand at testing your possible capabilities?
When it comes to these things, I'm generally a bit of a skeptic, but recently after learning about this phenomenon through an online riddle game, I got curious and made an /x/ thread asking if people could attempt to "remote view" the design on a shirt that I was wearing at the time of making the thread. The first two guesses that anons made were "stains" and "polar bear" which my (admittedly paranoid) mind found far too suggestive to dismiss as random guesses, since the shirt I was wearing was the shirt in the attached image. (To be clear, the thread's image was a picture of four boys from the 1950s, and didn't serve as any kind of clue about the shirt or about me.)
Gloomy Bear (the character on that shirt) certainly isn't a polar bear, but is pale in color and has white eyes and a white muzzle, traits that would all be uncommon of any real kind of bear other than a polar bear. It also has blood stains around its mouth (given that it eats people) and text covering it. I believe that both the blood stains and the text could have been interpreted as "stains" on the shirt since they obscure clear vision of the the symbol/picture behind it… Weird, huh? Of all of the shirts in the world, how would strangers on the internet pick up important clues by "random" guessing?
Am I reading too much into this occurrence, or are there other anons who believe in the possible power of remote viewing?
Samefag. While I have no intentions to derail this thread, I'm completely open to anyone trying to remote view the shirt I'm wearing now
and make guesses as to what could be on it (in terms of colors, details, overall sensations, etc.) Doing more than one test (and with different people) could present more accurate results as to whether I'm reading too much into "remote viewing" or not.
On this topic, I think people can pick up feelings and other information from posts online - I get a thing where I know when my post or @comment has been read, and at that moment I'll get a notif. Once I was trolling a scrot on here and he accurately guessed what I looked like (I ran after that)
We are more connected than western society would have us believe. In the case of the t-shirt it's likely because a chan user has a limited number of niche interests, it's likely to be a meme shirt as opposed to a glittery Live Laugh Love one.
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People diagnosis seek for attention and for an excuse, they don’t have to discipline their kids, just turn to any stranger around and say “sorry he has autism”
Also because of this lie that men are equally fertile at 35 - 60.
Those aren’t the only reasons but they’re the only ones I can think of for a sharp increase
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>>501354>Also because of this lie that men are equally fertile at 35 - 60.
Yep, but men will ignore reality anyway and stay absolutely convinced that the best path in life is to wait until they're 35-40 and impregnate an 18 year old.
I think it’s nice that healthcare has improved so that we can have babies at 30 - 40, that way more families can be financially independent without having to get benefits, parents are in a better mental state and are more mature and patient etc. I don’t know if it’s the best thing biologically though, 18 - 28 seems to be peak fertility for both genders.
With fertility treatment these days it probably makes women fertile for longer than men, as IVF treatment, donors and artificial wombs exist to assist women. But once your sperms fucked, that’s it, you’ll have nothing but a brigade of autist sons who won’t even look you in the eye.
So where’s my barely legal husbando? Doesn’t he know that his clock is ticking?
Realistically, women have always easily had babies late. It was just often their 10th baby or whatever since they would continually get pregnant until menopause.
There's a lot of misinformation out there, men do their best to scare us but the drop off in fertility is not that drastic until 40. https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2013/07/how-long-can-you-wait-to-have-a-baby/309374/
is a good article.>It found that with sex at least twice a week, 82 percent of 35-to-39-year-old women conceive within a year, compared with 86 percent of 27-to-34-year-olds. (The fertility of women in their late 20s and early 30s was almost identical—news in and of itself.)>Among women having sex during their fertile times, 78 percent of 35-to-40-year-olds got pregnant within a year, compared with 84 percent of 20-to-34-year-olds.>Even at early fetal testing (known as chorionic villus sampling), 99 percent of fetuses are chromosomally normal among 35-year-old pregnant women, and 97 percent among 40-year-olds. At 45, when most women can no longer get pregnant, 87 percent of fetuses are still normal. (Many of those that are not will later be miscarried.)
>>501355>woman in her 40s: autism rate higher by 15 percent>man in his 40s: autism rate higher by 28 percent
Nice. I'll definitely try to remember those statistics.>>501364
Funny how the difference is so insignificant that they can even group 20-year-olds with 34-year-olds - yet males still act as if anybody over 25 is an infertile hag…
Thanks for this cap anon, it made my day. I constantly hear men bitching about them being entitled to a 18-year old virgin at 40 because of muh fertility but forget that their own shriveled up sperm is in a much worse condition at their age.
Now that I think about it, I think every prolific autistic person I've met in my life has always had an older dad and a younger mother so it sort of indicates the truth in these stats. >>501365
Yep. They constantly parrot the "90% of your eggs are gone at 30" meme but forget to mention that most of them are gone before puberty because the majority of them die early. We're born with 2 million follicles and only maybe 400-500 of those ever reach the point where they can actually be fertilized. If you get your period once a month, that reserve lasts you around 33-35 years.
Very well said. Nobody really asks where these statistics come from. Even in England people seek the most frivolous diagnosis’ for themselves and their children, but they don’t get one unless there’s an impairment of some kind.>>501374>>501365>>501364
This makes me so happy. I really want to be a mother one day once I have a decent husband, education and a better job and I stupidly fell for red pill fear mongering at only 24, despite knowing a 45 yr old woman who successfully started a family of healthy kids with a 30 something yr old man
This isn't really a tinfoil but I learned that many pysch studies or soft science studies can't be replicated.
People tend to ignore this. If you want the exact number I've seen studies estimate about half or so but idk
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bieber posted all of these pictures with the hashtag #yummy
people are saying he posted them because the parent tagged him on the photos but that hashtag sure is
is this that spirit cooking shit?? fuck every time i read another thing about this its a fucken trip
got any more links bro drop away i'm keen to get balls deep
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I know no one will believe me, but I know so many people who have met her and worked two events where she was a guest. She is neither a witch or “supernatural young”, just a older woman with extensive plastic surgery and fillers, who started doing weird performances with her German hippie boyfriend Ulay (who never gets mentioned in tinfoil rants for some reason even though he was the main instigator of many of their performances) Every time I see a spirit cooking conspiracy rant I just roll my eyes. The picture attached is her before she was famous.
Then why tf are you here then if you do not believe shit like this goes on behind closed doors and are willing to debunk it? >>502100
well of course she’s not going to show off her ebil sekrit magickal self to the commoners like you lol why would she?
And are you apart of those same groups?
Seems like some glow-in-the-dark behavior to me, might I add. I suppose you also believe Epstein legit killed himself too
Okay cool, not hard to believe but when did she get tight with the elites and uh…pig’s blood
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why is this any different than edgy metal? that's all this is. the contemporary art world is filled with, and has always been filled with annoying pretentious edgy bullshit that gains them a following and a cash flow. marina abramovic is tame. this stuff has been going on for forever. read about the sensation exhibition in 1997 (pic related). it's always just been edgy tards competing for the bucks of pretentious old fucks and clout. that's all it is. that's how 'artists' of all kinds of flavors work. increasingly edgy for shock value and attention, that's all. are all of you living in pigeon forge, tennessee with no understanding of the pathetic and stupid shit rich/and or pretentious people pay for and attend, all for the claim of sophistication? why is writing with pigs blood (that you can get literally anywhere in nyc) so notable when damien hirst has been paying for the slaughter of all kinds of animals, cutting their heads off, putting them in christlike poses and displaying them in plexiglass for like 25 years?
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NTA, but can you explain what makes her work stand out so much that she's in league with mainstream celebrities like Lady Gaga and Jay-Z?
Also, why are children at these "Spirit Cooking" events? Doesn't look very child-friendly or appropriate.
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All buyers at blue chip galleries are celebrities or extremely wealthy. Jeff Koons was buddy buddy with lady Gaga and several Saudi princes but you never see mentioned in tin foil circles because making porn with your poem star wide while wearing makeup is apparently not satanic, but an emotionally damaged woman is. Lol.
Why is she my woman?
Also the logic makes no sense, why aren’t the other artists in his collection a target for satanic accusation? What about the art in Jared and Ivanka Kushners house of bullet holes? Totally halal?
You’re not very good at “debunking” this conspiracy, ya know. Always trying to rationalize this shit and even comparing it to heavy metal artists which you don’t see hanging out with the elites much (except maybe Metallica). Obviously a triggered
artfag, go away
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I probably have more artfag connections then the other anon. It’s just a dumb theory and shows how easily Americans are triggering by clickbait and dumb horror movie imagery.I can’t really say more because I’m pretty sure I’ll be banned for powerleveling. There are actual organizations which have been abusing children for decades in weird religious/esoteric contexts (world of faith fellowship) that have gotten less then a tenth of marina’s pig blood poetry and have even been courted to by right wing politicians trying to get their vote.
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those are obviously written by different people, dumbass. jeff koons is not a good example in that his art is not gory, but anon is right that famous contemporary artists (like damien hirst, who i already mentioned, whose art can be gross) keep very famous and wealthy company because contemporary art is increasingly considered to be an important part of a diversified investment portfolio. here he is with ed sheeran, who had him design his cast for him. he's very good friends with lily allen, kate moss, rosie huntington whiteley, pharrell, etc. this is not uncommon in the slightest. contemporary artists overhyped by the art world will have very famous fans specifically because of the fact that the art world is pretentious and wealthy. you're, again, a dumbass, because my post was very critical of artfags and art, and i'm not an artfag in the slightest. i do not care for art or the art world whatsoever. abramovic's blood cake bullshit was specifically within the context of an artsy party. wealthy people take their kids to stupid artsy bullshit all of the time.
it is comparable to metal in that they try to up the ante by being edgy purely for the sake of shock. sometimes it's just disgusting (like using dried elephant dung combined with religious iconography) in order to be offensive and shocking/"evocative". the more offensive, the more popular and hyped by the rich, even if it's not gory (look at maurizio cattelan). the difference between metal and contemporary art, however, is that contemporary art doesn't have the reputation of being trashy, whereas metal does. it's the same reason why the wealthy elites get taken for a ride with wine (https://www.theguardian.com/global/2016/sep/11/the-great-wine-fraud-a-vintage-swindle
), it's all about impressing each other and keeping up an air of avant garde sophistication and superiority.>>502266
anon is claiming artfags but i have literally no actual art connections and i dont like art. i just know about some of it because i think the fake interests of the wealthy are hilarious and pathetic, though i do know wealthy people who prop this up.
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I'm still just trying to find out: Who takes kids to this kind of thing?
Would you take even your weebiest daughter or son to a nyotaimori event?
Pic related, from the same gathering (censored, but still spoilering in case). We can't even say it was just one part that looked inappropriate.
are you under the impression that parents always make appropriate choices for their children? bc i was just at hooters the other week (ironically with my dad, who used to take me there as a young child despite my protesting) and saw a number of children throughout, plenty of which were saddled up to the bar area by their parents, surrounded by drunks, while women with their tits pouring out of their shirts wearing shorty shorts yanked up as high as possible were serving them. in the case of the abramovic stuff, wealthy nyc bubble parents think this is exposing their children to culture.
everyday parents leave erotic magazines and books out out infront of children. i had girl friends as a child whose parents had tacky and inappropriate nude herb ritts prints all over their home. lena dunham grew up around art and stupid contemporary artist parents, and her idea of what's socially appropriate is warped as a result (very evident by her statements and her book that details the dumb 'art' and artists that her parents exposed her to for culture as a young child). wealthy artfags are notoriously tonedeaf parents. stupid, gross parents are pretty common in all classes.
You seem to rationalize every questionable detail, it’s pathetic. I bet you probably thought the Lolita express was a myth too before Epstein was suicided, huh?>>502266
No1curr, nice deflection though
I don't know, anon. Women in short shorts and low-cut tops pouring beer, the occasional Playboy and some statue-like black/white nude prints all seem like a pretty far cry from hanging out while a nude, menstruating woman plays dead in a tub of chocolate that looks like blood while people directly eat off her body and at least one naked man covered in body paint or chalk frolics in a nearby forest. >lena dunham grew up around art and stupid contemporary artist parents, and her idea of what's socially appropriate is warped as a result (very evident by her statements and her book that details the dumb 'art' and artists that her parents exposed her to for culture as a young child).
I'll bite. What comparable art shows has Lena Dunham gone to as a child? I haven't read her book, but it seems to me that even her dad held off on the weird shit until she was like 20, if you check out his art.
Except that’s literally a cake of a naked chick covered in chocolate syrup and has nothing to do with the Japanese. It’s a spirit cooking gala after all.>>502328
You’re low level in the art world so of course you would think nothing shady’s going on. Oh and here’s a fact since you’re all about them: am not a scrote, just because I don’t type along the lines of ~gurl powah~ doesn’t mean I’m not one
it's almost definitely a male. no woman would say this:
>just because I don’t type along the lines of ~gurl powah~ doesn’t mean I’m not one
when none of the posts being made have anything to do with """gurl powah""" or hint toward anything of the sort. despite the way people are speaking itt, anon still can't let go of his retarded reeee Cosmopolitan mag concept of the way women speak. hilarious. even confronted with the evidence that no one itt is speaking like that, he insists that not adhering to his idea of women talking must be why he sticks out.
I’m sure y’all Marina supporters believe this chick is crazy too (vid related). Man, I hope that Jonathan Swift story I had to read in 12th grade was just allegory bullshit>>502368
It was confirmed it was a cake.
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marina did/ordered some stupid red velvet cakes made as a naked version of her, and of debbie harry, at a few parties/galas or whatever, so i think that's the cause of confusion. totally separate from the girl in chocolate, but both things are passed around in right wing conspiracy media. it's still not satanic and is just incredibly tryhard, however.
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Could Courtney possibly be Frances’ handler? Or just both of them being weird with affection in general
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Strange, why so heavily guarded in the middle of the ball?
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This could just be a cute display of affection after all
Zoom in on the photographers in the top left. They look like they're witnessing a car crash (whatever is happening on our right)
Looks like attending balls with these psycho celebs is a harrowing experience.
Even Gaga's expression is 'wtf' at that model, while the guy who bought her for the night is holding on to her.
I think there's an element of "edge" to why they do this weird shit (referring to cakes and "chocolate" covered models) but I also think there is no moral limit to how far the rich will take "edginess."
So I don't doubt at least a small segment of them actually do satanic rituals. No rules.
Your missing the point- it was a weird performance done for a gala at a performing arts center.
I wouldn’t take my nonexistent kids to a event like that or any event that I knew was gonna have alcohol and adult themes but I also wouldn’t take my kids to a shooting range or a revivalist event with people screaming about demons so the pendulum swings both ways.
That video has too many jump cuts and infers too much shit.
Here's the full video. No subtitles, no music. She jumps from topic to topic, and is probably very high.
The snake thing is in the middle of a conversation where a friend brought up accidentally killing their rabbit by feeding it lettuce. Jolie mentions her own rabbit dying when she was a kid because the cage fell on it, a hamster that died, lizards that died after a friend left them out in the sun, and her snake that she had to kill, but her friend talked over her before she could tell the story. Then, they suddenly talk about making casts of their body and making ceramic masks, shirts, etc.
She could've had to put it down because it was sick, or she wasn't allowed to take it with her when she was moving somewhere, or she was young and her parents didn't want to let her keep it, but she couldn't find an animal shelter that would take it.
There are all sorts of possible explanations, it sucks that the friend cut her off.
It also did kind of sound like she wasn't trying to explain "People think it's S&M and that it's superficial, but it's not", but "People don't understand that S&M isn't superficial, it's deeper than they think". It's a logical lead-in to her discussing "seeing everyone's sexuality, and people who are darker", as if the point wasn't sex (ie S&M), but initiation, it wouldn't make sense to bring it up. The "real, real place" she keeps repeating sounds more like she's describing some innate, untapped sense of being, like a "true self", rather than another physical location or dimension (Hell).
This isn't to say many celebrities and Hollywood people aren't
involved in weird Satanic shit, just that I have doubts about this particular video being evidence or an admission.
Courtney could never be a handler kek. They're weirdos who do too many drugs and have no boundaries. Would love for Frances to write a tell-all though. What do anons think about Courtney killing Kurt? >>505493
We live in a society that objectifies women and sees them as something to consume. This is very basic. Are you autistic?
NTA, but she's a fake, a liar and an overall terrible person, lmao. I don't know if she killed Kurt, but she wasn't the "true punk rock goddess" she presented herself as for so many years.
There was an entire blog titled "exposingcourtneylove" or something that detailed all her shit, with receipts. I'm sure there are archived pages of it on the Wayback Machine or something.
You should be embarrassed about defending Courtney Love THIS hard
She's not a good person, even if you do think she's so 'talented' (she sounds like a dying goat to me)
When did I even mention Kurt in a positive way in my post? She herself is a drug addict, so I don't even know what you meant. You're embarrassing and clearly the one who needs a reality check here.
The "riot grrrl" Tumblr scene died in 2015, sorry.
I never said anything about defending kurt. I like nirvana but I agree with what you’re saying about kurt, and I also like Courtney’s music and hole…but to say that she’s “one of the only talented women” youve got to be smokin some serious fuckin dick. You must be listening to like 4 bands a year. What do you consider “talent” anyway? You probably have a very narrow perception of what musical talent is, being a narrow minded person and all. You should be embarrassed for shitting on and undermining your own gender in favour of an abusive
and narcissistic mother who was fuckin banned from seeing her own kid after being such a wreck.
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I was reading about Pizzagate, and found out about this guy, Peter Alsop. Might be nothing, but there's some weird coincidences with him.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Alsop
He's a musician who makes children's music, and also a psychologist who worked with emotionally disturbed kids.
Spirals like in pic related are a known pedo symbol:https://wikileaks.org/wiki/File:FBI-pedophile-symbols-page1.jpg
They were eventually removed from the album cover, as you can see here:http://peteralsop.com/album/uh-oh
That's not too big, so whatever. He also worked on this educational short film about
CSA (more specifically, he wrote the theme song): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kids_Can_Say_No
The irony of this is that the man who acts as the responsible, helpful adult, Rolf Harris, turned out to be a convicted sex offender who was sexually abusing young girls before (and even after) its production.
Alsop commented that Harris "may have used the film to groom children because it encouraged trust by parents".
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But like, some of his photos are kind of weird.
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Cover art for one of his songs, "I Am A Pizza".
Here's another of his songs, "Where Will I Go When I'm Dead And Gone?". Seems normal, then gets macabre here:>Hey, maybe you could dress me up and keep me around>Sit me in your kitchen chair>Then if you got lonely and you needed someone,>I’d be right there!>Or you could hang me out in the sun on your patio,>I’d dry hard as a stone>And the wind would make music on me, like a radio!>You could dance to my rattlin’ bones!
It just reminded me of Jeffrey Dahmer's (and other murderers) fascinations with keeping the bodies of his typically underaged victims
. He was apprehended in 1991, while the album this song is from, Songs of Loss & Grief, was released in 1997.
I noticed that the children specifically don't sing this part in the video, probably because it'd look too twisted, but the song itself is listed as being aimed at pre-school aged kids up to teens/adults on his website, so it's safe to say they're intended to sing along, at least.
I generally agree with that, but it's the fact that this particular song is by the same guy behind a song/video where kids sing about being pizzas that become "a mess", an album cover with spirals that were later randomly removed with no explanation, a photo of him sharing a spaghetti noodle with a little girl (pretty sure the Podesta e-mails had "pasta" implicated as a "code word"), and his involvement with a production that turned out to star an actual pedo.
If it was anyone else, whatever. Everything together is just kind of strange.
Not everything is black and white, anon. And you are
in a conspiracy thread so try to have an open mind.
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The song "I Am A Pizza" appears as the first track on the album in pic related, which he performed with his daughter (who was 10 at the time). On the surface, the song doesn't lyrically relate at all to the rest of them (which seem to largely be about family and some more serious topics). Also, after reading some of the lyrics for "Don't Put Your Hand In My Pants", it doesn't seem appropriate for a 10 year old to be singing (regardless of the intent).
Interestingly, his parents aren't named on his Wikipedia page. Turns out his dad was a WWII vet and an engineer:https://ertelalsop.com/about-ertelalsop/https://www.legacy.com/obituaries/name/samuel-alsop-obituary?pid=205470>Samuel Alsop, 82, of Hampstead, NC, left on his final voyage Friday (January 18, 2002). Born in New York City, he was the son of Ruth Clare Davies and Samuel Alsop. Formerly of Meriden, Sam was a U.S. Air Force Veteran of World War II, president of Alsop Engineering in Milldale, a member of the Shriner's and Power Squadron for many years, a real estate broker for 27 years and active in many community organizations
Relatives include people involved in politics and journalism, such as Stewart and Joseph Alsop.
He's also been featured as part of a larger motion framed in the book "Queering Elementary Education: Advancing the Dialogue about Sexualities and Schooling": https://books.google.com/books?id=HafWAQAAQBAJ&pg=PA114
His wife, Ellen Greer (daughter of Will Geer) owns the Theatricum Botanicum in Topanga Canyon LA, and his "Kid Koncerts" are regularly held/featured there.
Not sure what this site is (seems like a boomer forum - I didn't discover this comment or most of this info), but here's an interesting comment on it: https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3600765/replies?c=12>To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
>Been around LA for a long time … there were groomers that used theater groups as a farm system.
>Back in the day, Will Geer’s Theatricum Botanicum https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theatricum_Botanicum was just known to the acting community to be such a place.>>506627
Not what I meant at all, but okay.
Also, this is just my personal speculation, but the lyrics to his anti CSA-song(s) seem a little dodgy IMO.http://peteralsop.com/song/my-bodyhttps://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/law-order/rolf-harris-in-no-to-child-abuse-video/news-story/b2ec909038322e2c1b0cc1fe61fd5ed6http://www.peteralsop.com/song/dont-put-your-hand-my-pants
They're intended to lend empowerment" to children for their bodies. I don't feel like going through the wastelands of "MAP" Twitter again to collect receipts, but this message of "empowerment" and a focus on "My body is mine, I run it my way
" (as opposed to just, you know, "Keep your hands off my no-no places") reminds me of when pedo activists argue incessantly for "children's rights to use their bodies with whoever they want".
They say these things specifically because they want to normalize grooming. In their own minds, "positive" indoctrination means that no children will feel taken advantage of when pressured into anything. Some even stretch this logic to insist that CSA doesn't really exist, it's just that society teaches kids that what happened to them is wrong, giving them bad feelings. They have complete brain-rot on this subject.
This line of thinking is like a bastardized version of the "sex/body positivity" movement, and can probably be traced directly to NAMBLA, Harry Hay, etc, considering both espoused similar ideas.
That group was basically kicked out of the LGBT movement for being pedos, but they've been trying to edge their way back in for ages.
IMO, we all seem to think Twitter's bizarre PEAR (pro-expression, anti-regression) community (spearheaded most famously by pedo furry/tranny breakcore musician 4Lung) and the MAP/NOMAP shit with their own pride flags are new developments. The same goes for the sudden rash of drag kids and "drag queen story hour". I'm convinced literally none of it is, though. They just seem like the most recent out of many attempts, all hiding under the broad moniker of "queerness" (essentially latching themselves to the LGBT forcibly), and through "careful" content like this that focuses primarily on children's "empowerment", and some of the messages in the book in my previous post, they've been laying a foundation for future acceptance from the 80s/90s. This is just my own tinfoil, though.
Everything in this video is why I'll never ignore the Pizzagate stuff.
Anybody who denies it is either woefully ignorant, or has a vested (and very twisted) interest in denying reality.
Also, it annoys me seeing people make this a "Republicans vs Democrats" thing. It's so obvious that they're all in on it.
He died during the Grammys weekend and supposedly after passing the torch to Lebron James, not to mention it’s before the Super Bowl.
Does anyone know numerology? Apparently numbers tell you who’s sacrificed next or something (dunno if the numerology thing is true anyway), his daughter died at 13.
My mind had a fuck up just reading>Don't put your hand in my pants>My little clock
I'm gonna throw up now. This dude is fucked up.
Some people said back when PG was happening you can take evidence like this out of nowhere for anyone, but the truth is you just cannot. Isolated, fine whatever. But all of this together coincidentally, absolutely not.
Since when bad bitch stands for abusive
She straight up killed frances's pets, neglected her to do copious amounts of drugs and probably traumatized the girl, who already grew up without a father, for life.
You wanna defend women think of Frances first.
I think that Courtney is a batshit crazy druggie but she did not kill Kurt.
My guess is that David Geffen paid to get him offed so Nirvana wouldn’t leave the record label. Instead Nirvana got cult icon status when Kurt died and now every generation of emo teens will listen to Nirvana.
The letter Kurt Cobaun sent to Geffen states very clearly that he is going to stop making music and start focusing in his family. “ I am now in rehab going on 18 days and Im really looking forward to having a family at this point fuck NIRVANA.”
It’s possible that he relapsed and died OD because it’s commin to overdose when their tolerance is low after rehab,https://loudwire.com/angry-kurt-cobain-letter-to-david-geffen-auctioned/
O u right
I didn't know it lacked the terrain warning system. It makes sense though still a risky attempt.
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Vigilant Citizen has been proven to be a false flag ran by marketers.
There was a CDAN post about Courtney cheating on him with River Phoenix (ew River why?!) and that Kurt was threatened to be dropped by the record label. Currently having trouble finding it and the video it was featured in 2018.
I also heard that David Geffen is part of the gay mafia along with Brian Singer
Something That's Been Bothering Me With MeToo for sometime now
A couple days ago, when I was talking about Rose McGowan and Asia Argento on another website, and how they were calling every woman and man out by name for being silent about Harvey Weinstein and knowing about them and being complicit, all the while when Rose has publicly defended & praised a convicted child rapist Victor Salva, a director she worked with (She said, when asked in an interview about his rape conviction, that it "is none of her business" and that he is a "sweet guy") & Asia Argento publicly defended Roman Polanski by signing a petition to bring him back to U.S. People asked her about it and she first made an excuse, but then and blocked people who asked her about it on Twitter.
I got very violently attacked by some people who told me that I was victim blaming, derailing, and that I was trying to discredit the victims, and that I expect them to be perfect saints, and that I should never talk about this again or ever bringing it up again.
I responded that: I said over and over that this in no way discredits them for the assault they received from Harvey. Their voice and opinions are valid, and I'm glad they spoke out. But it is valid to point out that while critiquing people for protecting a rapist, they also did the same thing. It does come off a little bit as "It's okay as long as it doesn't happen to me" to me and I don't expect them to be "perfect saint victims," as people often do, but to say that women in Hollywood can never be responsible for their hypocrisy or actions is actually expecting them to be perfect saints who can never do any wrong. like it still feels like Metoo is just scratching the surface with the sexual abuse in hollywood
You're literally making up shit. Are you the same person from the Celebricows thread who insisted Kobe Bryant was innocent?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarana_Burke>Burke was born in The Bronx, New York, and raised in the area. She grew up in a low-income, working-class family in a housing project and was raped and sexually assaulted both as a child and a teenager. Her mother supported her recovery from these violent acts and encouraged her to be involved in the community. In her biography Burke states that these experiences inspired her to work to improve the lives of girls who undergo extreme hardships. As a teenager, she became involved in working to improve the lives of young girls living in marginalized communities. Burke attended Alabama State University then transferred and graduated from Auburn University. During her time in college, she organized press conferences and protests regarding economic and racial justice. https://edition.cnn.com/2017/10/17/us/me-too-tarana-burke-origin-trnd/index.html>"For the next several minutes this child … struggled to tell me about her 'stepdaddy' or rather her mother's boyfriend who was doing all sorts of monstrous things to her developing body. … I was horrified by her words, the emotions welling inside of me ran the gamut, and I listened until I literally could not take it anymore … which turned out to be less than five minutes. Then, right in the middle of her sharing her pain with me, I cut her off and immediately directed her to another female counselor who could 'help her better.' ">Burke said she never forgot the look on the girl's face.>"The shock of being rejected, the pain of opening a wound only to have it abruptly forced closed again – it was all on her face," she wrote.>"I couldn't help her release her shame, or impress upon her that nothing that happened to her was her fault. I could not find the strength to say out loud the words that were ringing in my head over and over again as she tried to tell me what she had endured. …>"I watched her walk away from me as she tried to recapture her secrets and tuck them back into their hiding place. I watched her put her mask back on and go back into the world like she was all alone and I couldn't even bring myself to whisper … me too."
However: Asia Argento is a white woman who actually slept with an underage boy, and that cast a bad light on the movement. She didn't start the movement itself, though. It's not surprising to me that she'd defend Roman Polanski, with this in mind.https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/sexual-misconduct/asia-argento-allegations-jolt-don-t-derail-metoo-movement-advocates-n902201
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Dave Mustaine is Donald Trump’s doppelgänger
I've been feeling extremely tinfoil lately to the point where I'm worried I'm developing schizophrenia or something.
I don't want to browse any news because I hate having to always double and triple check sources because of modern shit clickbait journalism. Between WW3 never happening and Coronavirus being a sensationalized flu, I fucking hate any and all news nowadays. I'm so distrusting of EVERY source now. It's worse now with all these pop science YouTube channels flaunting their cherry picked studies as solid proofs. I fucking hate it. I hare it all. I'm falling into the belief that modern society wants us feeling utterly paranoid and miserable for a handful of people to profit.
I try to tell myself that I can't stress too much, there's only so much I can feasibly learn on my own and I HAVE to rely on others to get a larger picture of the world, but I'm so distrusting of everyone and everything now that I'm just withdrawing into my own bubble. And not social bubble, just my own lonely bubble where everything is uncertain but there's comfort that I haven't gotten suckered into believing something I shouldn't.
I'm constantly questioning my beliefs, where I found them, how I formed them. And my memories are so jank that when I don't have a concrete answer to those questions I flip the fuck out. Then I get too scared to Google it because I fear confirmation bias.
It's too tiring having to fact check everything..I inevitably will skimp out on fact checking unless a really outrageous claim comes by me, but how many small unchecked beliefs have lead into larger networks of bad beliefs due to a shit foundation? For instance, remember "the calcium in milk helps build strong bones?" I'm not against milk but holy fuck, I actually took that factually as a kid and based so many beliefs on milk being a "superfood" or some shit. Everything dairy was great, it made sense that cheese was really good for you, etc. Learning that milk isn't particularly good nor bad for you means dismantling an entire network of beliefs I made on my own based on that one node. Then you have to reconcile that someone purposefully drilling that misinformation at a large scale purely for personal gain, not caring about the deceptiveness of it.
And yes, part of growing as a person inherently means reevaluating your beliefs. I just feel it's almost too much effort nowadays to filter the good from the bad.
Makes me hesitant to learn new things.
>>511950>modern society wants us feeling utterly paranoid and miserable for a handful of people to profit.
Ding ding ding!
>it's almost too much effort nowadays to filter the good from the bad.
And that is by design, so you are overwhelmed and take the whole mix or reject it all. In both cases, you end up un/mis-informed and therefore easily manipulated.
I don't have a solution anon, I just wanted to say that I relate to your post and I feel for you.
I am not even full on conspiracionist, but it does though.
She didn't mention that he's full on pink and wearing make up and earrings and a candy necklace as well, probably because he's "pretty like a woman".
Also, if the lyrics are actually about himself rather than his wife, it also makes much more sense. "Bonafide stallion, ain't in no stable, you stay on the run" seems to be describing an erratic dude (or kid) like him.
I also wonder about the fifty fifty part, that could be an allusion to Bieber's rumoured bisexuality (or the fact that he was abused by both genders).
And the "you're incriminating, no disguise" needs no explanation, really.
Also super tinfoil mode but maybe the jet part (that clearly describes a blowjob, even if you think that's about his wife) may be referring to him giving BJ's in Epstein's famous jet flights?
Maybe I'm just reading too much into the lyrics, but to me personally, makes way more sense than just being about his wife.
I was going to say the song's too bare-bones to have any evidence of anything (other than whoever's the lyricist sucks at both rhyming and poetry but)
Then I looked into his deal and >During the joint interview Justin and Hailey reveal that they decided to abstain from sex before they married in a New York courthouse in September last year. Prior to rekindling his romance with the blonde beauty in June, the Love Yourself hitmaker admits he had a 'legitimate problem with sex' and was more than a year into a self-imposed sex ban when he reconnected with her.>'He doesn't ask us not to have sex for him because he wants rules and stuff,' Justin says. 'He’s like, I’m trying to protect you from hurt and pain. I think sex can cause a lot of pain. Sometimes people have sex because they don’t feel good enough.
really struck me as odd.
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The "pretty/beautiful like a woman" thing was said by L. A. Reid, the producer that discovered Bieber in the first place. Who was charged later with sexual harassment. I have no doubt in my mind that he was sexually inappropriate, to say the least, with Bieber.
Stallion is also a term for a breeding male horse.
Again; I may be reading too much into it, but I also wondered if the title of the song itself isn't a reference to this particular email from the pizzagate leaks.
Okay, so we know that “pasta” is a code word for “boy” but wtf does “sauces” mean in their world? Jizz?
>I am awaiting the return of my children and grandchildren from their holiday travels so we can demolish them.
This email stuff is where pizzagate conspiracy gets hokey to me.
Child trafficking by elites through business fronts makes sense but those code words sound rediculous and this just looks like an email. It's more unbelievable to think up weird meanings for this email than just sensible ones like maybe the dominoes part could be about a time he lost really badly at dominoes after eating a lot of pizza. Private messages are usually filled with references and in jokes that don't make sense.
Maybe the true tinfoil is that the stupid parts of the pizzagate conspiraryb are just misinformation, made to discredit the very real child sex trafficking trade. Maybe this person genuinely orders children but here he's just talking about food and dominos.
>>517633>Domino = BDSM
you mentioned Domino’s, right?
The White House doesn't allow outside food, and yet, the WikiLeaks emails cite Obama as having ordered $65,000 worth of pizza and hot dogs for a "private party".
Not sure what to make of that.
>>517869>None of this elaborate conspiracy theory was true, as the New York Times noted
Why would the New York Times ever lie about anything?
It's not like the owner of Comet has already been caught red-handed lying about having a basement in his establishment. >Most troubling for Mr. Alefantis and staff has been the use of children’s images, pilfered from the restaurant’s social media pages and the personal accounts of friends who had “liked” Comet Ping Pong online. Those photos have been used across dozens of websites. Parents, who declined to talk publicly for fear of retribution, have hired lawyers to get the photos removed.>Some of the photographs were apparently taken from random web sites
Did whoever wrote this actually see the pictures or read the captions? Because some of them weren't even near appropriate to post on a restaurant or personal IG page. >Alefantis also said many of the photographs were of children of family and friends, not patrons of Comet Ping Pong
This doesn't make things better. >Scattered evidence from previously leaked Podesta communications was included, such as an e-mail about children orphaned after 2010’s catastrophic earthquake in Haiti (along with information about adoption agencies and trafficking),
Why is this article not acknowledging that Hillary Clinton literally had Laura Silsby, a person who was trafficking children from Haiti, freed and working for Amber Alert? This wasn't just scattered random information. I guess that wouldn't fit the agenda.
I typically like Snopes, but the omission of details and lack of any actual evidence this is fake other than "Alefantis says it's not true, pls stop" is kind of embarrassing here.
Yeah, he's pretty clear and unashamed about it, too.
It's kind of weird IMO for Obama to keep his $65,000 private hot dog/pizza party on the DL, though. Like, what would there be to hide? It's just food. And why the White House for the party?
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Someone literally tried to shoot up the fucking place over a bunch of nonsense from a collage posted by someone on T_D. Was all this autism no reputable source has proved worth random bystanders potentially getting shot and killed? Or dying in a fire set by an arsonist? I don't fucking think so.
The BBC, The New York Times, The Washington Post, and even fucking Fox News investigated and found nothing. Do you seriously think that every news organization in the first world is all cospiring together to shield pedophiles? Get a grip and use Occam's Razor. The police have been called there dozens times during this whole debacle. At this point, I think they would have fucking noticed if children were being trafficked there. At this point you're literally taking the word of anonymous crackpots online over everyone else.
You know why people believe in conspiracies? Because they're afraid of the unknown and like the idea of feeling like they have "secret knowledge" other people don't. You prefer the idea that there's some deep underground organization doing all the bad things in the world because you can't cope with the fact that evil things are done by ordinary people randomly all the time.
By the way, jet fuel isn't hot enough to melt steel beams, but it is hot enough to weaken the alloy, causing structural failure.
The shooting was nothing more than a staged act, they aimed for the hard-drive containing what evidence it may have.
>The BBC, The New York Times, The Washington Post, and even fucking Fox News investigated and found nothing.
So you wholeheartedly believe the mainstream media narrative, got it.
The shooter didn't investigate anything, he just barged in and shot at a computer. I'm not really sure what that's supposed to prove, other than that anyone can easily get a gun to try to wreak havoc, and that a computer on the premises under suspicion has been destroyed for unknown reasons.
What did they investigate, exactly? Because every news article I've read just cites denials from those who are being accused, takes them at face value, only vaguely refers to the actual accusations (like with the Silsby thing Snopes did), and leaves it at that. You really think the media and law enforcement can't be bought by people with extremely high political power? How naive are you, exactly?
At most, I've seen Buzzfeed attempt to blame the Russians, but then when you check the linked directory of things said by Russian shills, nothing related to Pizzagate is there.
Who has been put on trial, taken to court, actually had their shit searched and been proven to be 100% innocent? Why the CheesyBay thing? Why all the links to actual, confirmed human trafficking rings? Why the quick attempts to shut down the whole controversy before
the shooting even happened? Why would Alefantis call people "cowards" for not going to his shop? Isn't that incendiary? Any normal business owner would actually be glad internet rumors haven't escalated to violence, if for the safety of themselves and their patrons. Why were mods on at least one popular site that this was being discussed on (Reddit) caught editing people's posts on the subject before banning it as a whole, even though far more ridiculous, egregious shit is often left undisturbed?
>The police have been called there dozens times during this whole debacle. At this point, I think they would have fucking noticed if children were being trafficked there. At this point you're literally taking the word of anonymous crackpots online over everyone else.
You can call CPS to an abusive
household dozens of times, and even if it's clear what's going on, sometimes, nothing happens. There's at least one 13 year old girl with internet notoriety whose mother is basically pimping her out on IG and Tik Tok, having her wear skimpy clothes and twerk to get likes/comments from pedos, and having her abide by contracts and sponsorship work that she can't legally agree to. I can't remember her name, but I found out about her because D'Angelo recently made a video about it. She's even admitted that police have been called and CPS have been sent over multiple times, but nothing has been done.
Remember, this is a small YouTube/IG stage mom not facing any legal trouble for clearly exploitative practices, and exposing her child to predators. What do you think would be the case with someone who's friendly with the Clintons and other people with actual power? Even if we lived in a society where the law is fair, just and treats all equal, do you think they wouldn't know how to hide their shit?
If you want an example that's closer to home, maybe consider the fact that it was common knowledge that Epstein had an entire island dedicated to child trafficking since the 90s, to the point where Donald Trump boasted about being friends with him and openly spoke on how much he loves "very young, beautiful women", but nothing has been done for 10+ years, and when he was finally jailed, he was "mysteriously" allowed to "kill himself". Very trustworthy system we have here, huh?
Occam's Razor here is that people as a whole are being lied to, even if you'd personally rather feel safe. Sorry.
I missed this part:>Because they're afraid of the unknown and like the idea of feeling like they have "secret knowledge" other people don't.
Being afraid of the unknown typically makes you run away
from things, not toward them. Also, you can't keep calling this the draw of secret knowledge when the so-called "crackpots" are trying their hardest to make this as public and not
secret as possible, only to get immediately gagged, blacklisted and banned from doing so by people who, if the allegations are true, would definitely have a vested interest in keeping things suppressed.>You prefer the idea that there's some deep underground organization doing all the bad things in the world because you can't cope with the fact that evil things are done by ordinary people randomly all the time.
It's not underground, though. People with power can, and often do, commit very fucked up acts. Try reading about geopolitics, or war crimes committed by the US alone. Or, just open a history book. It's not crazy for large figures to also be abhorrent people.
These people have publicly known names, faces and identities, like anyone else. They are
ordinary people, not gods.
The difference between them and your neighborhood sex offender is that they simply haven't gotten in trouble, and usually, they won't. The reason why is because of their money, their reputation, who they're related to, or what blackmail material they have on other important, publicly known figures and organizations. Look at how Jimmy Saville was protected, the fact that Bill Clinton was a frequent flier to Epstein's island but still isn't in jail, how multiple figures in Hollywood signed a petition to protect Roman Polanski, how Michael Jackson still has rabid fans who defend him to this day, etc. The list goes on. Even within your average family, a rapey uncle or grandpa can get away with molesting the children, and still
get invited to family events, even after the children speak up.
Many people just care more about maintaining the status quo, or sating their own selfishness than enacting "real" justice. That's just how they are. And since people are running the police, the media and other avenues, instead of some sort of impartial, perfect justice AI that punishes all evildoers equally, of course many things will get swept under the rug, slip through the cracks or get outright denied. That's how it always goes until someone else with even more power steps in, or it's simply impossible to keep lying about anymore.
It's happened before, it's still happening now, and the fact that you seem so opposed to this simple knowledge makes it seem like you and others in denial are just sticking your heads in the sand.
I have no idea where you work country-wise, but in the US doctors can get cash incentives for prescribing medications. For years Lipitor was overprescribed because it wasn't controlled and the Pfizer incentive was easy and arrived quickly.
It feels like the elderly are least likely to argue about taking something new or even inquire why they'd need a new med.
I agree with the premise that medications are being irresponsibly prescribed but the concluding question >Maybe it's a way to keep people to not reproduce?
Is ridiculous. You can't claim it's mostly old and obese people who are targeted and then say it's about reproduction as if those demographics are known to wantonly reproduce in the first place. Old people aren't having babies. It doesn't make sense.
The reality in the US is that young, white, and middle class peoples are being the most affected by prescription abuse and specifically for opiates. Because now with stricter regulations, doctors are having to cut them off and so they resort to illegal street drugs which often kill. Or they doctor shop around until they find one who will give them the scripts and they die just from prolonged abuse of their medications.
There's no conspiracy to it. The reality is people live difficult, stressful, and expensive lives but don't have the means to seek real medical help and lifestyle changes. They go to their doctor who promises magical pill reliefs for their pains, and the doctor is happy to oblige for the business and money. It's a vicious cycle.
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So Reddit continues to censor posts they apparently don’t like. Is there any doubt anymore that social media sites are carefully controlled and monitored with a certain agenda?
I feel sorry for the artist who now gets to be tied to this conspiracyhttps://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/xy93x7/how-a-mural-sparked-a-pizzagate-theory-that-threatened-an-artists-life
It reminds me of the liberal artist who first drew Pepe the frog
This article reads like every other mainstream coverup piece. Second paragraph calling believers “the dumbest people on the internet” … these claims have evidence, despite what they want us to think.
Any other anons struggling with swallowing the red pill? Also I 100% believe in pizzagate. I’m not sure how far I believe in the satanic stuff or to what extent, but I definitely believe the pedo ring.
My friend came over and we watched million dollar extreme’s world peace show together and it kinda fucked me up. We have been talking for months about pizzagate and the state of the world right now in terms of who is in power and what they’re doing to brainwash us.
In regards to the satanic stuff, just because they use that type of iconography or symbols doesn't necessarily mean that they believe in it.
A large theory is that they use these things to make outspoken victims
seem like liars or mentally ill conspiracy theorists. The more outlandish and crazy these things are, the harder they are to believe.
You could use something like Elan School for reference. This was a reform school that parents could have their children sent to, and was backed by the government. These children were kidnapped from their beds in the middle of the night (which is legal, because the parents consented), tossed into the back of a van, and driven to Maine. When they arrived, they were forced to shower in front of strangers, and had all of their personal effects and clothing taken away. If they tried to run, there were local hunters stationed in the woods specifically to capture them. There's lots of crazy things that happened there, but the biggest ones were the fighting pit where students had to fight multiple opponents in one go, the "therapy sessions" where students were only allowed to scream at and insult each other, and the isolation room where you'd be forced to sit and stare at the wall without moving, sometimes for as long as a month.
Remember - this happened, has extensive amounts of proof, AND was backed by the government and completely legal. This school ran from the '70s and shut down around 2011. Decades of child abuse and torture. Some kids managed to run away. Victims
spoke out. Police were sent, multiple times. But the school continued to run because who would want to believe that there was a government-funded torture chamber in the woods of Maine where children were only allowed to scream at each other, fight, and stare at walls for years? By the way, Elan School didn't even have to set a release date for when a student would graduate the program. For almost every student, they kept them until 18 (and some entered as young as 13), where students could legally sign themselves out of the program.
i've heard that before and it makes a lot of sense. if you design a room to look like, say, the inside of a UFO, the victims
will get grouped in with people who have abduction delusions
I believe every conspiracy theory has at least a little
truth to it. There is no such thing as coincidences when there are TONS of them in one situation.
The conspiracies get exaggerated and people shit them up sure, but that doesn't mean there is absolutely nothing there at all. If you trust your gut and something seems off, there usually is.>>520020
I think about this a lot
I don't know much about /pol/ but coincidentally he was right about Italy? But I guess it's super touristy there. Everything else could have been predicted, I guess. But now I'm curious about the part where he says it may spread badly in Brazil and South America?
He says he has connections with CDC and WHO, but both of them seemed pretty incompetent at times regarding the epidemic. So even if someone did have ~insider info~ with them, I feel like they wouldn't know what would happen? And having friends in the medical field wouldn't make a difference either.
And his estimation of at least 60,000 people being killed is kind of the same as the flu so that's a safe number to go with for him to be right about later on…
A lot of effort was put into this and it was a cool read but it's kind of like a "psychic" or a "fortune teller" being right. Just be correct and coincidental enough
so people will believe.
Not sure about western conspiracies, but the two big ones that were/are going around 2ch are that corona was an accidentally leaked biological weapon, and that the Chinese hotel (or apartment building?) housing people on quarantine from corona that collapsed last week was purposefully bombed by the government.
This is just some second hand stuff I’ve heard from friends here, not sure if there’s anything similar floating around /x/ or /pol/ lately.
If we can't this thread is autistic. It's called general tinfoil>government coverups
It's in the description
The fact that coronavirus is a family of viruses and that SARS is also a coronavirus is making a lot of the conspiracies really confusing to follow right now. I wish I knew more about microbiology. And I also don't really trust the conspiracy theorists to know enough about it either.>>527372
Still post the tinfoils tho
You can take any strain of virus and splice it with another (whether it's effective is another story), that's what labs around the world do to create and study potential bioweapons. There's plenty of documentation to support the way in which viruses are able to be mutated through human means. Even our scientists who research vaccines require studying/messing with the molecular structure in order to effectively predict the next vaccine needed to protect the populus. Sorry for the possible confusion, I accidentally implied Covid19 was spliced with HIV in my post when I should
have said it was a mixture of the SARS family, spliced with HIV, that was the possible origin of Covid19. Here's an article that backs up our ability to engineer viruses, similarly to how biological scientists experiment with the genetic structure of stem cells.https://thebulletin.org/2014/08/making-viruses-in-the-lab-deadlier-and-more-able-to-spread-an-accident-waiting-to-happen/
>The fact that coronavirus is a family of viruses and that SARS is also a coronavirus is making a lot of the conspiracies really confusing to follow
(This video actually elaborates on what a Corona virus is, it gains it's title from it's molecular structure). I don't mean to be unkind anon, and you're more than welcome to you opinion, but given the modern world that's realistically a bit of a moot point. This man is by no means the authority on microbiology, but he has collected information from various legitimate sources (eg. Institutes of virology) in order to explain his contention. Although, I definitely agree having the grasp on microbiology that scientists do would ofc make our discourse significantly more effective. Hope this helps!
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What do you think of id2020? https://id2020.org
Their plan is to microchip everyone. It's not a conspiracy since it's out in the open. The "alliance" consists of big names such as Bill Gates, the Rockerfeller foundation and WHO.
The microchip will also hold data on your vaccinations. My thought is that they may force the micocships on people through the new Corona laws.
Their homepage is fucking creepy too.
Has anyone read A Modest Proposal? An essay about selling your own children as food for English royalty/the elites.
I remember reading this short story as a kid during my senior year and being put off by it while studying satirical literature. This is supposed to be satire, right?https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Modest_Proposal
Ellen is under house arrest. Supposedly she has an ankle monitor and is surrounded by soldiers outside while chatting with Michelle Obama https://mobile.twitter.com/TheEllenShow/status/1242186005639303170
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For being sick fucks, that’s why. “Draining the swamp”
Pic related: she looks old as shit! In need of that baby blood/adrenochrome
This was my initial speculation. I'm disappointed there's actually some creedence to the theory tbh.>>531575
Thank fuck this thread exists. I'd go stir crazy if we couldn't openly discuss celebrities' predatory nature. She looks like she needs a whole lot more than a blood facial imo.
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What do we think about this whole coronavirus thing being a "preparation" cover for the real threat? A massive astroid that will hit Earth Next month. NASA has been tracking it since 1987 and deemed it potentially hazardous but claims it will miss Earth by 3.9 million miles. https://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/armageddon-level-astroid-hurtling-earth/
She works for the CIA and is a suspected handler, just click on her Twitter and you’ll probably find a rabbit hole.
Edit: I tried to locate this Tiffany chick’s blogpost about Ellen being a CIA shill but I think she deleted it so here’s her Twitter post talking about Ellen hanging out with George Bush.https://mobile.twitter.com/Tiff_FitzHenry/status/1181593139926245377
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Up next on the hit list, Madonna!https://mobile.twitter.com/Madonna/status/1241035131554615298
Pic related; she’s speaking-err, singing in code
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It's nice knowing your branching out from finland anon
The virus is real, but governments are also definitely using it to quickly enact significant social change when nobody has the ability to fight back. Some changes will stick.
Anon above, good luck, I hope you can push past this virus.
I'm not into conspiracies at all but I'm living for those who do lol I love that the last couple days under every article/video about celebrities people are just ramping it up, even the craziest shit get's thousands of likes.
Nice example, celebrities - in this case Madonna - posting weird shit because of the quarantine: https://twitter.com/Madonna/status/1241035131554615298>Please shut up.>The last three days have made me hate celebrities more than I ever thought I could.>#PizzaGate>All celebs must be ban from social media>We are watching attention whore celebs have a literal meltdown in front of us.>Black radiator 311 >Which god is she thanking?>I bet that’s 14 fish to be exact>Looks like withdrawal symptoms and I might add your lack of real talent shows now!>No more PASTA (young boys) for you. And no, there won't be a FALSE FLAG (Fried Fish) to save you this time. You're totally fucked. All options are exhausted. The whole world is watching. You won't be able to walk the streets.
Thousands are accusing her of being part of murderous organizations, how long will they be able to withstand that?
All those popstars, actors and the kardashians have done so much damage, they're such bad influence on all young people, they deserve every bit of hate they get.
>>532216>I really enjoy that they are completely exposed to direct criticism for once in history. These figures finally have to deal with instant repercussions and have to read instant real reactions.
Exactly, they got away with having everybody treat them like gods for way to long.
Ellen Degeneres is also in trouble right now, her and "house arrest" are trending, countless of accusation because she suddenly looks so old, tired and deflated and somebody started a very popular thread for people to share how horrible a person she is. https://twitter.com/KevinTPorter/status/1241049881688412160>I worked @RealFoodDaily, served her & Porsha at brunch. She wrote a letter to the owner & complained about my chipped nail polish. I had worked till closing the night before & this was next morn, almost got me fired.>She has a "sensitive nose" so everyone must chew gum from a bowl outside her office before talking to her and if she thinks you smell that day you have to go home and shower.>A friend of mine told me about a custodian she knew who was fired bc he was slightly autistic and forgot he wasn't allowed to look at or speak to her, and he loved greeting everyone.>she polices her crew's lunch orders, nobody allowed to eat fish etc.
And monsters like that earn hundred millions.
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Wikileaks email confirming Ellen is a CIA shill
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Tom Hanks is arrested upon arrival to the US.
An astrologer predicted
he predicted the collapse of the Soviet Union, and the coming of Brexit) made this prediction about 2020:
"When Jupiter conjoins Pluto in spring, there will be a drastic change in mankind's outlook on life — people will return to their roots and re-discover the old ways of living as well as the value of home and family life.
The Mars-Saturn conjunction in April brings a major financial crisis that will be felt on a global scale.
With Saturn's ingress into Aquarius, fraudulent businessmen, capitalists, and materialistic merchants will meet their downfall. This will set the stage for a new economy and business system by 2029.
The political scene will also transform as people's views undergo changes. Corrupt politicians and world leaders will slowly begin to lose their influence. Money and currency will become more transparent.
We might witness the disintegration of large nations like the UK and Spain, and the restoration of restrictive measures on countries' borders.
With Neptune in Pisces, we will also see the birth of a new generation of children who will not appreciate the use of smoke, alcohol or drugs.
Uranus in Aquarius laid the groundwork for the birth of new minds 19 years ago. This new generation of Uranians will bring significant changes to the police and the judiciary system.
Most people will realize that there has never been a real democracy, only dictatorship and oligarchy, because the police have predominantly protected the government and the rich."
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The creator of Wikipedia is speaking out on systematic child sex trafficking by elites.
Wonder how the media will spin this and try to convince everyone he's a crackpot/schizo.https://twitter.com/lsanger/status/1244736101862051844https://twitter.com/lsanger/status/1245012710955405314
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Here's the second thread. Shout out to the uneducated people and political partisans who have been screeching "Pizzagate FAKE" and acting in bad faith when we all know what's been going on.
it's always bizarre to me how people talk about pizzagate as it was the most outrageously ridiculous conspiracy theory knowing all this at the same time.
also if you spend literally 5 minuts reading up on pizzagate past the "famous politicians rape babies in a pizzeria" tl;dr, there clearly was SOMETHING going on in these mails. Maybe not connected to children at all. But it definitely wasnt discussing amazing pizza flavors. Come on.
God i fucking hope not.
Restrictive border control is my worst nightmare.
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Any proof that pizzagate is real?I'm having a hard time believing it
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I feel the exact same way, anon. Everything feels like a lie.
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Oh look, Richie’s trying to get into the industry….or his management told him to flash the eye if he really wants to make it
Fuck bill gates. He needs to die if he starts microchipping us.>>536168
who is this faggot?
He doesn't even own Microsoft anymore you retard.
Holy shit this thread is hilarious.
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This was really good anon, thank you for posting it! It deserves an explanation though because I wish they didn't pick such a cheesy cover image and I didn't know if I was going to waste my time. I didn't care for the religious undertones but it's just the one guy's religion I guess. It's really well put together with credible interviews, footage, and showing some documents. It sums up everything in the past and up to very recently very well. The pizza gate explanation was so good
. I also already knew (like we all do) that Lady Gaga was involved in Marina Abramovic, but until this video I didn't know the extent to how much she was, even in the beginning of her career. It also makes sense why Lady Gaga is randomly endorsing Biden now.
Everything was condensed but very informative, Hollywood was and is
a lie after all, hopefully this means people will finally get off the blue pill. I’m glad the dude found God too.>>540922
Her parents sold her out.
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What did Ellen do to get thrown under the bus like that?
Don’t those anons in the celeb thread realize that pedowood is real
real? Did they forget about Lindsay trying to steal a Muslim kid from his parents in Moscow?
Lindsey is a mentally ill druggie woman who is high all of the time so its not comparable.
You have thread dedicated here to pedowood so keep it that.
It's pretty in-depth, and I'm bad at summarizing, but to answer your question as best I can: At first, he saw "legal", but very creepy photos of actual children in training bras/underwear. He came across two images where they were naked except for bikini bottoms. He censored them for obvious reasons, but you could still kind of see the silhouettes, and all the tags were child/preteen related. There was no "edgy" imagery, from what I saw.
The source Google provided for one of the images was the online store for the normal lingerie brand "L*sca". He clicked on the link, and it lead to an item page that looked normal except for that photo. The site made sure to specify that it was for "kid's swimwear", so even though the uploader blurred the photo so we (the viewers) couldn't tell the age of the person pictured, we're literally told by the site what this is.
He also checked what the site looked like if you visited it "the normal way" (ie just typing in the site URL, and going through the homepage). He noted that all of L*sca's "normal" results, on Google images and on the site itself, showed adults only. All children's underwear or swimwear listings from the "usual" end of things was just the items alone, no models wearing them.
To come across what he found, you literally had to have known and looked up the special "code word" he got from following all these random, seemingly loosely-related bread crumbs.
On top of that, after all this, he pointed out that Google kept recommending him gross videos of little girls on YouTube, quite a few of them with Russian titles.
The rest of the video is an overview of who James Alefantis and John Podesta are, why the IG posts raised so many eyebrows from the start, and other questionable businesses and individuals they're linked to.
The Lisca brand is from my country, which used to be part of Yugoslavia, not the Soviet Union. Huge difference.
However, even here seeing children topless on the beach is normal, and it's also a very warm region with sea access. When you start developing then naturally you'll start wearing bra tops and such.
Also, the brand does not advertise outside of a small selection of surrounding countries, all European. In its country of origin it's very popular and the underwear is produced in a place that's kind of locally famous for sturdy cotton underwear that very old village grandmothers boil to disinfect.
I don't want to say there's nothing going on behind this because I really don't know, and our country neighbours another that's kinda known for sex trafficking and prostitution so God knows, but it really is just a lingerie brand as far as most people here are concerned and they have pictures of the kids' line in store catalogues with models and the women's line also worn by models. The site could also be outdated, most businesses here can't internet.
I'm kinda surprised that anyone would consider topless children creepy to begin with. It's just kids, you wouldn't put a bra on a baby.
Well, that definitely confirms my suspicions.
I have a slight tinfoil that naming the brand here tipped off their Google Alerts, and they had it removed. No worries, it's still on BitChute (and there seems to be a way to directly download videos from that site): https://www.bitchute.com/video/m4uPgLMVI_g/
The video creator's username is "Mouth Buddha". I'm just saying this so if the BitChute one gets deleted too, anons will have something to use to start digging.
He seems to be linked to retarded alt-right people like Ethan Ralph, but this particular video was informative IMO.
Same, it also means bra in Danish and other languages (Bryst Holder = Breast Holder = Bra) so it makes you would see a kid in a bra when you search kid BH, but why is it hidden from normal search on the website but exists under the “kim” tag? Weird
Pizzagate is 200% real though
Agreed, i cant belive this twisted world we live in! >>544749
Dont have an answer for that one
I def believe in elite pedo rings but this guy seems a bit overexcited by the "connections" he found, and also doesn't understand ig hashtags, plus as other anons have said BH means bra in pretty much all Germanic languages.
If anything he has just shown how super easy it is to find iffy content online while not even trying.
I think there is a very small amount who legitimately do worship satan (In that out of the shadows documentary there is proof of this), some who do it for "art", some who do it for a symbolic meaning or to communicate with each other, and some who do it as a means to make their victims
question reality and make it seem like they're making shit up. Or a combination.
I honestly belive they worship satan, or at the VERY least evil pagan gods(evil as in human sacrifice, sex magic, ritual abuse, drinking blood and cannibalism)>>545059
Yeah there is a ton of material on the subject, i am the anon that linked the documentary, its a very surface level introduction into how sick and twisted our “rulers” are, been down this road of research on and off since age 12 (am in my 20s now)
Have you guys heard of Bohemian grove and the Finders cult?
The rabbithole goes deeeeep.
Heres a video where Alex Jones infiltrated in the late ninties i belive, watch the whole thing if you want but at the 1:19:51 mark ish the ritual begins
Info on what the bohemian grove meeting is supposedly about and prominent people who attend https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohemian_Grove
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Every child dancers'/acrobats' Instagram is 100% disgusting pedo pandering
There's probably so many Christfags because these concepts are biblical in nature. They read about these things in the Bible and now it's evidently happening in front of them. I mean Satanism is the antithesis to Christianity (not talking about autistic tween Laveyan Satanism, although it's pretty retarded in itself). So with context in mind the religious iconography doesn't bother me, they're just trying to help in the way they know how. This might just be me, I'm not going to discount good information because Christfags are toez wrong about muh edgy/occult bandz
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They have been brainwashed from an early age to hate christianity, christians and christ (and god) himself, and even an atheist can see that, no other religion has gotten this treatment with endorsment from movies, media, celebs etc
We really do live in a gilded cage…
On the other hand, I’m glad people are starting to wake up
I don't know much about the Bill Gates conspiracy theory, but whenever mainstream media suddenly picks up a conspiracy theory for the specific purpose of shitting all over it and calling it "crazy", I start to wonder.
Like, there are people making far crazier theories about reptillians and alien invasions, but you chose to focus on this specific theory that just slightly
threatens someone with both the money and power to pay you to be their attack dog. Hm.
Bc reptilians/alien invasions are too crazy to pay attention to and you can tell immediately they are fake.
The microchip theory looks realistic enough on the surface to attract people but doesn't make enough sense to be taken seriously, so people disprove it.
I was interested in Linux but figured it was too much of a hassle to work with nor do I lack the patience. Then again I did install windows 10 on a pc 3 years ago but that itself was mentally draining.
What windows conspiracies do you know about if you don’t mind me asking?
P.S: I don’t actually plan on throwing my computer away, I’ll probably continue to use it until it dies or if I ever have enough money for a MacBook
That pos operating system took 3 days to get installed, of course it was draining!
Granted, I am proud of successfully installing win10 without relying on anyone for help. As far as Linux goes, I’ve never been “hands on” with that operating system and fear I might mess up in the process; it’s been awhile since I’ve used commands.
>anon your standard copy of windows 10 spies on you.
Well yeah, that’s why I only use it for schoolwork and sometimes browsing lolcow.
Everything else I do on my phone privatized, unless it’s for mundane things like social media and other girly things. Though that is not always the case since sites I’ve been to do end up on my Facebook recommendations rolls eyes
>>548411>Everything else I do on my phone privatized
The phone network and most phone operating systems are totally fucked, anon. It's arguably even less private than using a normal computer because the tracking is baked into the phone system and because people seemingly have less control over their phone OSes than their desktops. I'm not sure if by "privatized" you mean through Tor or a VPN or not.>That pos operating system took 3 days to get installed, of course it was draining!
Linux should not take three days to install, I don't know why Windows did. Maybe it could take you that long to figure it out or understand it, but my boyfriend got Debian onto a non-standard laptop in a few hours tops. Probably more like an hour. I can't tell you who to ask for help because tbh the community is kind of shit, but try reading through install guides. There are threads here where other techie anons can answer your questions too. Ubuntu is meant to be the normie distro and holds your hand a lot more than other distros.>>548411>As far as Linux goes, I’ve never been “hands on” with that operating system and fear I might mess up in the process; it’s been awhile since I’ve used commands.
Try installing it as a VM first to give it a shot! Use Virtualbox, it's not too hard to learn imho. You can also install Ubuntu without deleting Windows. If you're really scared just back up your important files regularly. For what you're doing, most of the time you probably won't even need the command line, but I do think it's worth learning some basic stuff.>>548373
Windows spits out tons of telemetry data and I remember even pre-Win10 I'd get Skype calling home for ads and shit on my computer. I think we completely blocked the server from the firewall lmao. It was annoying and invasive. I don't trust voice helpers like Cortana and Siri and especially Alexa (look up how voice assistants actually work and you will see why a lot of security people hate them) and hate that Cortana is so integrated into the OS. The whole OS feels like a fucking ad-infested and purposely locked down mess and it inspires little confidence in me security-wise. If it weren't for this stuff I don't think I'd be that bothered by Win10, and I think it's possible to strip a lot out of it, but idk if it gets reverted or if you can really fully unfuck it.
I've never gone full freetard and switched entirely to Linux but the path every proprietary OS is going down is one of ad/malware-infested bullshit and data monetization, and sucking the government's dick wrt user privacy. I still do a lot of shit I should not and most people do, but I think I take more precautions on some stuff and it's just…trying to live in a totally "private" way now will really cripple your social/work opportunities now and I guess for better or worse I decided that some of those tradeoffs I'm ok with.
If you want to be serious about avoiding Windows, install Linux, don't buy a new computer for the OS. It might be scary but it's worth a shot and I think you'll learn something and have something to be proud of if you succeed. Sorry if I just went into a tinfoily rant about computers I realize you just don't like the big B.G. and want to avoid him so you maybe didn't need all this lol
I don’t have Tor and the site is blocked on my iPhone for some reason so I use the private option and most of the time the only thing that comes through the “private” barrier are ads while on Facebook
Recently I found this app via kiwi farms that supposedly takes your privacy seriously https://brave.com/
I haven’t installed it yet because Null
>I don't trust voice helpers like Cortana and Siri and especially Alexa (look up how voice assistants actually work and you will see why a lot of security people hate them) and hate that Cortana is so integrated into the OS.
I don’t use Cortana because my computer doesn’t have a built-in microphone and only use Siri to play songs on Apple Music or to access my location If I’m going out of town but that’s it. After the creepy shit that came about Alexa a few years ago, I don’t trust her at all. Then again, I don’t know if the other AI’s are recording what you say so I try to be careful with that, though sometimes I forget.
Speaking of iPhones, mine has Face ID but I don’t use it and opted for a password because “muh govt is watching me”and am too paranoid to give them that information
After windows updated by itself, it and continues to automatically open a program called Microsoft Teams which supposedly connects you with who you work with at your workplace, I haven’t used my laptop at all in almost a year and my sisters because I was taking a year break but my sisters have so how did it know I had a job?
I tend to watch Linux videos from time to time as I find them interesting and insightful, I might try using it virtually but because I share my laptop with my younger sisters as it counts as “the family computer”, I can’t really afford to install it atm. Aside from me not knowing enough about how the command system works. But it’s good to know there’s local help here in the farms!
>Sorry if I just went into a tinfoily rant about computers
Hey man, we are in the conspiracy thread after all so just tinfoil away! I and I’m sure everyone else would love to hear more tech conspiracies. Speaking of which; a few years ago, I’ve read that one or two of the distros: red hat and oracle are supposedly Satanic or something but isn’t Linux or any Unix-based operating system work independently from tptb?
Yeah agreed, it's the only religion you can actively hate and repeatedly take out of context without getting reeeed at for ~muh hate speech~… It's almost like there's something to it… Hmmmm I wonder if I can get over my preconditioning to listen for more than 5 whole minutes? NAH Slayer has too many jams
/sarcasm off >>548373
Also big kek at the IT sperg in this thread, you're the epitome of human evolution big clap>>549491
The shit about Jizz Stain honestly doesn't surprise me. Ot but I love that guy's videos. The phone editing, retarded outro yet simultaneous giving out of legitimate information. Idk if it's classic misdirection or just "boomer humour" but I'm here for it.
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Even more worrying, this video just got deleted: https://www.bitchute.com/video/8LjILBTPL3k/
Isn’t he the guy responsible for the reptilian rumors?
I don’t think she elites and hollyweird are reptilian but rather demonically possessed >>551207
Well at least it’s not another Epstein “egg-stein” video, kinda getting tired of those
Has anyone seen what the “plandenic” video was about? I missed it and I don’t think it’s on YouTube anymore.>>551593
I’d say check out vigilant citizen but since everyone here thinks he’s shady with collecting data, another alternative is to watch ‘Jay Myers documentaries’ on YouTube; he’s very well spoken and concise when it comes to occult symbolism
So we’re still on the 5% population plan?
Eugenics is alive and well, I see
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I think if you give Instagram camera and mic access it ends up using it for ads targetting. dicking around insta with a certain bougie bag of popcorn in front of me (and therefore my camera) got me ads for that exact popcorn. had my phone in my ass pocket at work and a customer walks by speaking with emphasis about a particular food item got me ads for that food item even though I rarely purchase it and kinda don't like it.
multiple times I've gotten ads for things I only THOUGHT about or physically looked at but did not say anything aloud. weirdest was when I was showering with my phone in the other room and thinking about a skin care product I needed but hadn't bought in a long time. when I checked the gram after my shower I had an ad for that exact product…
happens all the time tbh…can't say I know exactly how but sometimes I think….how else?
A kf user got banned for two weeks for making a third thread on this, he/she argues that the usernames and passwords are legithttps://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/255827057/
Anyone brave enough want to confirm this?
Is everyone too scared to log in to the accounts? I remember there was a Bill Gates or something leak not too long ago, but it was quickly dismissed as fake after none of the passwords reportedly worked.
The speedy deletion seems like proof this is real, but by now, I'd think they all changed their passwords or locked their accounts.
I followed this guy for his work on the Finders - he's kind of out there, new agey, anarchist, whatever- don't agree with him on any of that but he's the only one to do any real legwork on the Finders.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZ09dRM79cA
Looks like someone's harassing/extorting him now? He seems pretty freaked out in this video. Whether it's nothing or not, should be juicy. Feel a little bad for the guy tho.
I recommend Bill Cooper's Mystery Babylon radio broadcasts, you can find them all on Youtube. It's not perfect. Jay Dyer can also be okay sometimes, but he's also not perfect. Take it all with a grain of salt. A lot of shit out there on the occult in conspiracy spaces is just absolute garbage and untrue, or incomplete/twisted, etc.
Take for instance the common claim that Masons are "Satanic". Masons are
Luciferian, in that they maintain that Lucifer was a separate entity to Satan, almost a Promethean figure who represents the "morning star", "intellect" etc. But they are not Satanic- at least they would not consider themselves satanic. Very few occult organizations would.
Most of the modern occult tradition stems from a few different sources you should do some research on: Themela/OTO (Crowley), which stems from the Hermetic of the Golden Dawn, which stems from various Masonic organizations, along with older Hermetic traditions from various cultures, and perhaps most important, The Kaballah. There are some eastern Vedic influences you might come across now and then but it's not as frequent. MOST occult organizations stem from somewhere along this tree. For instance, the Thule Society, which later became NSDAP/Nazi Party, was a Golden Dawn offshoot.
I recommend just reading about each of these directly, from a non conspiracy lens, or reading excerpts from their material directly.
I'm not sure why so many conspiratorial sources see fit to lie or mislead on the subject of the occult because what they write themselves is already damning- but if you want to know for yourself, and you want to be able to recognize the symbology, source material is the best way to go. I only read as much as I need to be dangerous because I take my spiritual health quite seriously and I don't want to fuck with any of this stuff.
Due to the nature of most secret societies, the vast majority of people involved deliberately have incomplete knowledge of the inner workings. I think the only Masonic rite even worth investigating as any more than "adult boy scouts" is the Scottish rite, and at that point, probably nothing until the latter degrees. At which point, (pure speculation) those 33rd degree masons are probably eligible to be recruited into a wholly separate organization. This is the concept of the "Rings within rings" organizational structure - Each ring has no knowledge of any inner organization. This is infinitely scalable, of course, so you could have an extremely widespread "outer ring" with no idea of the existence of inner rings, which would look a lot like your local Masonic lodge where the old guys run charity pumpkin sales or whatever.
There's also the spookier idea that their Great Work has already been completed. Depending on what you think that might be, it could be possible.
I have a friend from high school who lives in NYC and joined the masons there. He's from a normal middle class family (as far as I can tell) and is pretty liberal. He was involved in LGBT issues in college and loves cabaret.
When I talked with him it just seemed like another kind of social club. I think it's good for him that he took the initiative to meet people.
why do you consider it dangerous? like what aspect of it?
i've read a good amount of thelema, golden dawn, and theosophy stuff and while i like a lot of the ideas and philosophy behind it, the symbology can get kind of schizo. everything having multiple overlapping symbols that are all kind of similar to each other, numbers and degrees and intricate rituals. letters that represent numbers that represent sephiroth and all the corresponding astrological elements. it can be interesting to have subtle and elusive concepts spelled out in symbols but you can't take it too literally or you could get stuck in a positive feedback loop of meaning. imagining actually going trough the formal process sounds like so much work for something you could do through meditation on your own.
This anon was not me. My reasoning is that I am very happy with the level of knowledge I have and with my beliefs regarding religion, spirituality, etc. Any further knowledge, truly looking into the occult beyond a cursory level, practicing to see if there's anything to it, etc… There's a magnetism to it for me. I don't want to blogpost but since you asked, it's something I've felt drawn to since I was very young, but always hesitant. I just don't see any reason to go further. I truly believe there is something to this, a power, perhaps things can affect our physical reality or provide insights not possible through normal means. To me, this seems like a no-no, Christian teachings state our concern should not be with this world, but on the next- anything promising benefits in this one seems suspect to me.
ah i gotchu. and i had a feeling >>555389
wasn't you lol. i'm coming from it with a buddhist influenced perspective i guess. i don't think there's anything wrong or bad with attempting to manipulate your surroundings with spiritual techniques, but i think it's all ultimately empty, so the "dangerous" part is giving it too much weight. no matter how good you are at magic, at the end of the day you're still just rearranging phenomena with no independent existence of their own. you're not changing the common ground of awareness. you're not changing "God". getting obsessed with the occult over everything else can definitely be a distraction and a form of escapism both from practical development and spiritual development.
I feel the same way.
IIRC the Bible warns us to not get “too comfortable” with the world and to overcome any carnal feelings (sin) that hinder us with our relationship with God, or we’ll never see heaven. He knew the world was and is corrupt, and wants to save at least the ones who still abide by his word so to speak.
And since the elites are supposedly in league with Satan, they want to take everyone down with them whenever judgement day arrives; from what I’ve read.
Have you ever had pneumonia in your life lol?
its just bat uber-pneumonia, its not that deep.
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On JLo’s latest ig pic, there’s a dude behind her being gagged and frightened while she’s posing for a workout selfie. People speculate that it’s either a mask or someone else’s fingers covering his mouth but one thing’s for sure; the fear in his eyes.
It should be noted that Jennifer practices Santeria
>>555585>the fear in his eyes
yeah I'm sure you can tell that from a tiny, pixelated face
it makes no sense to suspect it of being anything else than a guy wearing a face mask DURING A PANDEMIC
has corona corrupted your common sense?
Have you looked closely to the picture? Went to the original post? Doubt it.
These people hide in plain sight, this has been repeated time and time again.
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Thoughts? Feel free to call me a dumbass because this actually spooked me
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I'm gonna call you a dumbass anon. Not to dox myself
but I live there and it was just a low flyover of planes doing stupid hearts in solidarity with medical staff. I have also not seen/smelt/felt anything since.
Guy who originally posted this also got mad at restaurants asking for his name and number for a to go order.
So now that the new world order is here, who’s the “one-world government” that is currently running us? The world health org?>>555949
It’s the chemical that causes adrenaline and supposedly; a “drug” the elites use after torturing, killing and cannibalizing on the young.
Fear + adrenaline = adrenochrome
Hunter S. Thompson wrote about it in his Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
novel. Thompson is said to own a ranch which was used to hunt and kill people, presumably children. Johnny Depp admitted to living with him while he was still alive and admitted to him (JD) to “killing people”.
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This is probably a propaganda piece against whites but on the other hand, I really like the lip color! Though I am glad they didn’t use “Latinx”, ew.
>inb4 muh alt-right u wyte scum!!!
Technically, I’m not a white person(Do not instigate or engage in race related arguments. (racebaiting))
Nowhere are they bashing white people or being anti white lol, is just charity for black people which do in fact tend to be poor and live in hoods.
Stop hating yourself if you aren't white.
God, what an embarrassing image you attached.>>556186>Technically, I'm not a white person
No non-white person would ever say something like this.
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>a major war will happen
This person also predicted the giants winning. I almost shit my pants reading this threadhttps://sys.4channel.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Farchive.4plebs.org%2Fx%2Fthread%2F22501068%2F
I laughed. Fails to mention covid-19 pandemic and that due to the lockdown carbon emissions are down 17%.
I miss the good ol' days of /x/ when it was all "how to summon a succubus/tolpa" and "is this a spoopy ghost/alium".
it's someone who claims to be from the future on 4chan
calm down and use your common sense
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Thank you anons. Everyone else on that board was like “B-bro no way?” And I Was so scared it’s like 4am. I hope there’s no war till I’m at least like 50. The Rona doesn’t scare me because I never go out anyways, the draft or nuclear attacks on the other hand
sage bc woowoo stuff and i'm not really sure as i have my soul intact but what i believe is that over the course of a couple years they pray/do rituals to entities. When they do that, whatever entity that they prayed to, possesses them to ~make their dreams a reality~. They don't even get to enjoy the fame/money bc the lights are on but they're not home. If you see a celebrity roll their eyes back, that's the demon!
there are also certain places when the veil is thinner so you can come across something to exchange your soul for whatever. the biggest example i can think of is robert johnson as it's rumored he sold his soul at a crossroads for musical ability.
some people are just born into those kinds of families so they really were sold from the start.
someone being ironically self deprecating on the internet?? embarrassing!
girl, it's fucking satire