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That couldn't be farther from the truth, tbh. Their homegrown otaku are where the money's at, and weeby westerners typically follow what's already popular to the Japanese fanbase.
The only director trying to appeal to the west primarily would be Shinichirō Watanabe (the guy behind Cowboy Bebop, Space Dandy and Samurai Champloo), and one of his more recent westaboo show attempts flopped, even though westerners liked it (Zankyou No Terror).
Most money comes from blu-ray and merch sales. Of course, mostly Japanese otaku buy those. It doesn't really matter whether show is popular overseas or not.>>369350
Not really, but I have noticed that crossdressing is on the rise.
yeah sure, onion was MK ULTRA'd into being a grooming piece of shit instead of being a product of crazy genes and bad upbringing like >>369511
It's impossible to treat you tinfoil guys seriously.
Yes and she also molested him in the guise of nude body massages, would praise him then verbally and physically abused him throughout his life, called out his name during a fuck session with her bf at the time (his name is also Greg), one of his stepdads made the kids chant, “I love you, Satan” to a tv channel containing nothing but static one night. Not to mention him being “possessed” by demons (or imaginary friends, really) and supposedly not remembering shit between the ages of 5 and 11 years old unless there was a cute little girl he “was in love with”.
Saged for the late reply, I was at work.
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>>369313>Pizzagate talk is welcome!>Pizzagate>2019
holy shit, this thread is a dumpster fire from the very start
take that shit back to /pol/
Have you ever read about it?
No? Then go away
CSA is rampant in the government and hollywood, i 100% believe pizzagate, i don't even see it as a conspiracy, it's an open secret at this point with #metoo and how quiet and weird everyone involved acts. we know sexual abuse is rampant in the film and music industry, why wouldn't they abuse kids too if those men have already proven that they have no soul? the lolita express is real and it's heavily implied that the girls that "work" on it do sexual acts. look at how many people working in the kids entertainment industry have been convicted of having CP or molestation and/or rape. look at how many politicians are shady and creepy around kids, like joe biden. lots of YT videos with proof right there.
sex trafficking happens everywhere, all the time, and kids are the most vulnerable. people who think that shit isn't real are ignorant as hell. kids are the easiest to manipulate and abuse, so of course assholes in the industry would do it, and men with power in government will abuse kids for power and control. child sex trafficking rings are real. what do you think happens to all the kids who go missing and are never found, not even dead? they're being trafficked. it's not hard to believe. people in hollywood who speak out get killed a lot for knowing too much, and for speaking too much.
anyone who says pizzagate is false has never, ever looked into it. it's so obvious if you read about it and look at all the dubious connections and language surrounding it (podesta, epstein). i don't believe in satanic ritual abuse or anything "satanic" because i firmly believe those rumors are used to make the general public believe it's a crazy conspiracy even more. it's child abuse and they have no souls, they like to hurt and manipulate vulnerable people, simple as that. anything debunking pizzagate makes no sense and overlooks the eerie imagery and language used by those involved.
everyone turning a blind eye to rampant CSA is dumb as hell. i think that drag kid is getting abused as well, look at the men (one who has been convicted of killing a man and buys pedophilic art) they have him hang around. ignoring the rampant pedophilia in society is retardation.
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>>370178>anyone who says pizzagate is false has never, ever looked into it>Have you ever read about it?
Why is this your assumption? I've consumed a lot of info about it, I'm just not an idiot like you guys. Or are you forgetting that the man who charged in to Comet Pizza with an AR-15 thinking he was going to save these children supposedly held captive in a pizza restaurant found nothing
? Even the owner of Pizzagate.com who played a huge role in the spread of info has denounced it and has changed the website (which was previously used as repository for all Pizzagate related info) to say it's fake. I'm not saying politics aren't fucked up and children aren't being abused, but your precious "Pizzagate" has been debunked a thousand times over.
….or have you just not read about it?
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Well said anon! Have you seen that crazy video of the child in the shower (you can only see thru a frosted glass door) while "skippy" berates, screams at, and shines lights to scare and confuse the child? It's fucking awful. Idk if it was ever confirmed (of course not) but the torturer sounds like Podesta. Take it for what you will. The video is incredibly disturbing. Or the one of the two children at home and their grandmother iirc dressing up as a witch and threatening and scaring the children?
Once you realize the true depravity of some people and the disregard they have for the sanctity (idk a better word) of children, it really seems plausible that csa is rampant and systematic. And those who participate are powerful and willing to snuff people out to keep the secret safe. I believe it's used as a form of blackmail and therefore power over other adults
I think there may be some truth to the ritual abuse of children and teens, but instead of satanism (fuck, who knows…) I think it's just a blood sport and majorrrrr tinfoil but I do believe they try to get adrenaline pumping in the victims in order to somehow consume blood and/or parts of the brain for vitality or some shit. Idk if I'm as gung-ho about that theory but really, why the fuck not at this point? I wouldn't be surprised to learn this shit has been going on for a very long time among human beings, specifically those with near-unlimited power and control.
That drag kid is fucked. Hanging out with convicted
murderers and pedophiles. His mom and dad should be locked tf up for that shit. Social media is cancer.
Preach anon, people don't want to look into it and when you do you feel sickened. Apparently only child sex rings can be masterminded by job bloggs, like the uncovered massive one in Birmingham. No, people working in high level position jobs clearly will never have the resources to extort and exploit people.
It's sad. They conflate so much nonsense with very real things uncovered to keep the status quo. It's very hard for the establishment to keep secrets with the Internet and spread of information and sites like wiki leaks. Easier to debunk the sources of the information as crazy than discuss the content being exposed.
Now you've got bought journalists by government administrations pushing false narratives in mainstream news networks while shitting on independent news sources, you know non biased information. It's interesting and scary.
The term Pizzagate is more than the Comet Pizza debacle. My understanding is that it's an umbrella term at this point for systematic sexual abuse of children and young people, orchestrated and carried out by powerful people.
The man who went in there with a gun is a fucking moron of course he didn't find anything.
What about the weird ass instagram posts with the babies and children with the pedo references? Tied to tables with tape? Creepy ass comments? The FBI cheese pizza/hotdog references and confirmed pedo symbology? What about the creepy troons they had performing at Comet talking about pedophilia?
>Even the owner of Pizzagate.com who played a huge role in the spread of info has denounced it and has changed the website (which was previously used as repository for all Pizzagate related info) to say it's fake
Well, yeah, I'm sure he's up to his eyes in lawsuits and threats. Seems like a logical progression in the timeline.
there's a difference between thinking pizzagate specifically was a dumb conspiracy and thinking that there isn't rampant and organised csa among people high up in politics (and any industry really). denying the levels of csa would be ridiculous, i don't know how anyone could. the bbc scandals in the uk were open secrets, people just didn't know exactly how deep the saville stuff went
if i wanted to really tinfoil about it, i'd say pizzagate was deliberately blown up because it was fake. if you can get people to either focus on a red herring or to think all accusations must also be fake, then it'll take any scrutiny away from real pedo rings
Sorry, here>The FBI cheese pizza/hotdog references and confirmed pedo symbology
I meant to say The cheese pizza/hotdog, spiral triangle "boy lover" FBI confirmed pedophile symbology. Just to be clear.
Also I think "Pizzagate" is a stupid name for all this but it it what it is…
This is the thing everyone seems to gloss over. There are declassified files about this, that code words were used for children. Young girls, young boys, there was a story about a fucking baby or something.
The guy that stormed the pizza shop did so after there had already been articles about the Instagram posts and who the owners where etc. A moron could have predicted what would happen. And it's this exact story most people use to debunk the whole conspiracy.
Watch your fucking mouth, anon
And your back too ;^)
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This bitch was seen in the Podesta emails and has close ties with celebrities like Gaga and the Kardashian’s. She’s over 70 yet looks way younger - I think she eats kids
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She's had a lot of work done. Most of the people who obsessed over this are men, and we all know how ignorant they are when it comes to grooming.
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Never forget (warning dead body)
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deleted the other pic because it was tiny and you couldn't see anything but her skin has that plastic surgery texture to it a lot of older women with facelifts have. Joan Collins for example. Kim Kardashian is starting to have it too.
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and here she is without flattering lighting and more or less looking her age.
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>>370188>Or are you forgetting that the man who charged in to Comet Pizza with an AR-15 thinking he was going to save these children supposedly held captive in a pizza restaurant found nothing?
Are we even sure that case was real? Even in theory, it sounds off>man walks in with gun out of nowhere, no security to stop him>no deaths, no injuries>only thing shot was a fucking computer
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Dumping Pizzagate stuff.
I think she's referencing Kiki.>>370236
I take solace in the fact that I'm not a serial poster or a major asshole to people, so if mods ever did some expose it would just be…some lonely chick posting an embarrassing story every now and then. And sometimes infighting. Not really milky, I'm a literal who.
I always hated the pretentious cunt for using self-harm as a gimmick for her bs art and being praised for it while plenty of people struggle with it. Not to mention the whole ~the artist is present uwu~ crap which is modern art cancer.
She seems like a shit person to me and the ~satanic~ leaks do not help. Fuck her and people that mindlessly ass kiss her for being ~strong independent female artist~.
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For anyone still questioning, here is a user from a pedo forum discussing pizza parlors being used specifically for such practices.
But Pizzagate is "impossible", "ridiculous" and "obviously fake", I guess.
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nta but if you don't believe pizzagate after reading this you're a confirmed dummy
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I’ve read that the Kardashian’s are witches who get with black men for their “life energy” or something and that Kris Jenner is the ring-leader but maybe that’s reaching too much?
maybe they're the real life inspiration for Get Out
I do think Hollywood bases movies on stuff thats happening irl sometimes because thats part of the "code"
Thanks for the dump. I’ll never sleep again.
Is Nickelodeon/Dan Schneider part of pizzagate speculation? Or is he a lone wolf? I mean, someone is using a LOT money for covering his tracks.
ive always suspected that some sick fucks arent liked by the bigger people in the industry/organization
those people are doing the same things but because they arent really well liked(or they break rules or dont obey the people above them on the totem pole), they're used as scapegoats and allowed to be fed to the wolves
i:e dan schneider and weinstein etc
Kevin Spacey comes to mind
Some say this video is a warning to the higher ups in Hollywood
itayrt, i think all prominent pedos are connected somehow, but i agree with >>370306
, there's probably blackmail on every single one of them and if a guy pisses off too many others, things get leaked and the other pedos dont care as much about him getting outed. i bet weinstein and schneider pissed off too many guys and that's why they were given the boot.
yep weird nonsensical humiliation like this could be a tactic as well
also corey feldman
even though he's an adult and has always had issues, i think there really is some truth in the higher ups allowing him to make himself look as crazy as possible because he's the main person coming out and saying how deep the cabal runs
i also believe they encourage underaged kids who are molested to become full blown drug addicts and most of them die from it before they are ever able to be willing to speak out about it
If you want me to be honest: it's too messy.
You know how here on lolcow we can generally follow the drama because there's caps from linked sources so we can at least have the context around when and where someone pulled the info from? Example:
When people exposed Onision in Tractorgate, we knew he had goofed. Because we had a satellite picture of his property, a video that a neighbor posted of him destroying the wetland that approximated with what we observed on the map picture, and then later public court records were capped from an official source to confirm he fucked up.
It was consistent and logical.
I have a problem following Pizzagate because…almost none of these images have context. It looks like someone opened MS Paint and made vague connections from picture to picture and then random caps. Whoever made these things expected people to believe it with no questions asked, or we're morons. Or how dare we not get it when to this day I've yet to see a succinct summary of what the fuck any of it is, probably because it would make someone's head spin if they were to actually write out what's pictured in these cockamamy graphics.
i think of all the ones that have died really young
brad renfro, dana plato, jonathan brandis, river phoenix, anissa jones, judy garland all those child actors from the original Our Gang/Little Rascals series, etc theres so many and almost all of them have the same rumors about them being molested/raped/abused
ive heard Jay North was one of the first kids they fucked with and he's still alive but I wouldnt be surprised at all if its true
It's a reference to the film "Get Out".>>370316>It looks like someone opened MS Paint and made vague connections from picture to picture and then random caps
Someone absolutely did do that. Pizzagaters are Alex Jones stans.
Conspiracies are always rooted in a half truth.
, it's been suggested by many forensic experts that Madeleine's parents are being dishonest about the events surrounding the disappearance of her daughter and many think it's plausible she was sold into sex slavery.
But a conspiracy theorist takes it a step further and then it becomes absurd–like linking this to Podesta.
Someone is supposed to take for granted that the images depicted are Podesta's home and the images are what he had in his house.
The picture with the statue trying to link it to Dahmer is also a strange reach (because it assumes Dahmer was being original, not that he himself was recreating a very common pose in modeling despite the macabre circumstance of why he was doing it).
Podesta is probably a creep (the half truth) but it's a stretch to think he was involved in the kidnapping of Madeleine.
Context is really important for a few of these images too.>https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/tony-and-john-podesta-match-madeleine-mccann-police-sketches/
To clarify I was talking about the entire screenshot, makes me sick that sites like that exist out there somewhere>>370332
The 70s were a brutal time, especially for kids. Reminds me of that gameshow where the grown ass adult man host would ask for kisses from little girls. ugh>photos of the boy who played Atreyu are being sold and traded online(even now)
What the fuck
i dont believe ANYONE who has fucked Harvey has wanted it
not even his wife
its literal prostitution except most actual prostitutes and escorts are at least guaranteed money or compensation of some sort if things go correctly
these women were giving up their pussy to him just for the CHANCE at making it and advancing in hollywood and thats terribly sad and heartbreaking to me
I think rita ora and january jones were probably weinstein casting couch girls. Maybe jlaw as well but i'm pretty sure she was underage when winter's bone was being filmed.>>370365>>370367
she was already well connected, I don't think she needed to fuck around to get places. That probably contributed to her romanticising it. Why would you sing coquettish songs about it otherwise?
Oh I KNOW that river phoenix turned to drugs to forget about the abuse. Not only from when he was raped when he was 3 years old in that cult, but you know he was also prey to those directors and hollywood big shots. He couldn't deal with the trauma.
There was also another actor he worked with (I think one of the boys from Stand By Me) who came out with a story that he was raped by one of the film makers on a set.
I like (most of) her music and retro-aesthetic but not so much as a person.
We had an anon stanning her on the last thread claiming she was just using satire and parodying the ddlg/Lolita lifestyle. k
She also tried to hex Donald Trump kek>>370371>”that’s why I don’t hang out with those “Hollywood people”, because they want to hurt me and my ideas.”
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She looked uncomfortable or dissociated with him
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Harvey with her on tour, why?
ah i thought they were in the same crowd, thanks for clearing that up anon
i know there have been other deaths allegedly tied to johnny depp/the viper room
one of the co-owners or something went missing
i dont remember his name but i can search later after work
God, I'm sorry you had to see something like that anon
I've had an experience or two seeing something that I really fucking should not have. Spoilering for incoming spergingI know there's a lot of "debate" over pedo/loli shit and the defense is usually "uuuhhhh they're just drawings" but like who genuinely likes that shit and thinks ah yes this grown ass adult thirsting after a kid is fine? Especially with Japan having a crazy obsession with youth. It's just fucked up that they can have doujins like that out in the open on display and no one says a thing.I unfortunately was on pixiv the other day looking through some art some depicting adult content(with consenting adults of course) but I had seen at the bottom section of the page, in the recommended, was a thumbnail(?) pic spliced in that looked like a straight up traced of an actual kid. (With someone just drawing a peen in) I feel nauseous just typing this but how the fuck is that allowed? Didn't want to click it, but if I did report it would it even be taken seriously? Saying it's just a drawing is the worst fucking cop out. I wouldn't be surprised if there was more shit like this out there, and IRL pedos use shit like this to groom kids and save it to their computers without worrying about getting arrested. It's all fucking sick>>369499>promoting Satan as a “not a bad guy!”
That's an interesting pull, don't think I've ever seen that pushed unless it was for a joke.
I think anime is created just to make people sick or sicker than they already are. But that's probably an obvious one
interesting enough im seeing about the pussycat dolls having a room there and one of the girls claimed last year that they were in a sex ring so theres another connection
i didnt know about that
You are correct but nobody will agree with you here because it's a tinfoil thread.>>370421
That is a huge red flag for me too. For normal people it's impossible not to be disgusted by the visible fetish. Anyone that responds well or neutrally to pedo art is someone you should stay the fuck away from.
I've been dumping most of the PG stuff, and I agree. A lot of people involved in exposing this shit are being deliberately dishonest. The political partisan shit is holding things back. Trump is part of it.https://mavenroundtable.io/theintellectualist/news/jeff-epstein-pleaded-the-fifth-when-asked-about-trump-socializing-with-minors-lodvGaqy50-lg5eP-OiNmg/>"I've known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy,'' Trump told New York magazine in a 2002 profile of Epstein written three years before Epstein began to be investigated. "He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it — Jeffrey enjoys his social life."
Also>Q: Have you ever had a personal relationship with Donald Trump?>A. What do you mean by "personal relationship," sir?>Q. Have you socialized with him?>A. Yes, sir.>Q. Yes?>A. Yes, sir.>Q. Have you ever socialized with Donald Trump in the presence of females under the age of 18?>A: Though I'd like to answer that question, at least today I'm going to have to assert my Fifth, Sixth, and 14th Amendment rights, sir.>>370335>Someone is supposed to take for granted that the images depicted are Podesta's home and the images are what he had in his house.
It is. http://washingtonlife.com/2015/06/05/inside-homes-private-viewing/https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/7aznh5/to_anyone_saying_tony_podestas_art_collection_and/
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>>370439>used a humiliating and vulnerable pose
How is the pose itself humiliating? It's only humiliating in Dahmer's case because he mutilated the body and unwillingly posed it like that.
That pose is common in figure drawing, yoga, and other statues.
Someone is emotionally manipulating you and making you read into a message that's not really there.
Interesting point. I stand corrected.
Who is the artist of Podesta's statue I wonder? I did a quick google search but came up with nothing
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I firmly believe that Jennifer Lawrence fucked her way up.
A while ago I kept wondering why she suddenly got so popular so fast, seeing as she's not that much of a beauty or incredibly talented. Then I came across all those youtube compilation of her kissing Harvey Weinstein's ass…
All the other actresses associated with him are way more distanced or at least seemed a tiny bit uncomfortable having to hug somebody as ugly as him, but she is not at all.
Meryl Streep, Matt Damon and some other older actors also seem very suspicious. For years they were supporting him and now they claim to have had no idea. How can you simply look away when young (often foreign) and desperate women are coerced into sleeping with disgusting old fucks?? Like how can somebody as big and popular as Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie claim to be "scared" of speaking out? They would have had the whole public backing them up, they could have done something. But after that whole MeToo thing a lot of people demanded answers, but now everything has calmed down and everybody just continues supporting them.
Nevermind, I found it. The piece is called "The Arch of Hysteria" by French-American artist Louise Bourgeois.
Her assistant, writer Jerry Gorovoy:>Louise had actually been in psychoanalysis from 1951 all the way up until the 1980s. At the beginning of psychoanalysis with Freud there was a lot of interest in the hysterical woman who would have these contortions where the body would arch up in the air. Men did it too. But Louise always thought the psychoanalysts liked to see the women.>I mean they couldn’t figure out because there was no physical reason for this kind of bodily reaction. They thought it had to be some sort of mental trauma, whether it was repressed memories or connected to psycho-sexual repression. Louise's work is to a certain degree the same thing. It’s psychological and emotional things manifesting in the body that she then transforms into sculpture.>The hanging arch figure is actually a cast of my body. Louise had me lie down on a curved mound to get this shape, and then the body was in a plaster mold, which she then cut up to make this curve.>To Louise the state of hanging was this idea of fragility, because it meant that the body could turn, it could pivot, it could spin, so it wasn't a stable kind of thing. Louise wanted this figure to have a high polish so that the viewer’s face is caught inside the body of this contorted figure. So it brings the viewer into the picture.
Sorry for deleting and reposting a million times. Posting from an old ass tablet rn
>>370253>vagina area focus
Sexualizing cannibalism and it's so fucking disturbing. Sick. I've seen a couple of pictures of that same artist with lady gaga at another event where there was another naked woman cake they were eating from.>>370286
I read a small conspiracy that said the illuminati/elite/however they call themselves will destroy the democrats and take full control of the republicans to promote their version of "family" values ie cannibalism and pedophilia. And everyone, all the democrats and republicans, are in on it because they all follow each other and are actually friends.
even now you can't bring up how trump supported and is friends with the clintons. It'll get blown over. It's like people are programmed to be more and more extreme until they have to be told what to do by their
>>370253>vagina area focus
Sexualizing cannibalism and it's so fucking disturbing. Sick. I've seen a couple of pictures of that same artist with lady gaga at another event where there was another naked woman cake they were eating from.>>370286
I read a small conspiracy that said the illuminati/elite/however they call themselves will destroy the democrats and take full control of the republicans to promote their version of "family" values ie cannibalism and pedophilia. And everyone, all the democrats and republicans, are in on it because they all follow each other and are actually friends.
even now you can't bring up how trump supported and is friends with the clintons. It'll get blown over. It's like people are programmed to be more and more extreme until they have to be told what to do by their
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The majority of Japanese aren't Christians, to many of them Christianity is like a living mythology. There are very few depictions of Christianity or Christian iconography that are used 'accurately' in anime because they either don't know better or don't care.>>370500
Oprah is a dingus but I'm not gonna fault her for not personally keeping an eye on the school.
My favorite conspiracy is anything to do with reptilians. Funny as fuck.https://www.businessinsider.com.au/what-its-like-to-believe-youre-controlled-by-reptilians-2013-11
I don’t believe Chester Bennington is the son of John Podesta (ew wtf?) but I do believe that he, Chris Cornell and Paul Walker were tryng to expose the pedo-rings which is why they were suicided.
Also, it is believed that CPS is intentionally targeting children from “broken homes” as delivery for the elite sick fucks for higher pay. Since Bill Clinton signed an act that CPS workers get paid for every child they “save”. A former senator from Georgia tried to expose it which costed her job and well, her life.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nancy_Schaefer
Here’s the article she published before she got killed: http://www.nccr.info/attachments/600_The%20Corrupt%20Business%20Of%20Child%20Protective%20Services.pdf
Love this thread! Came here to see if pizzagate was actually being discussed and wasn't disappointed.
I'm really mad about it, I was deep into reading it at the time, and I feel like people were really
onto something big. But it kept getting messy relating everything to everything else and with no proof, the pizza shop, and madeiline mccann. I believe they were all more isolated and all led somewhere, but maybe not exactly connected. And if they were it was too far of a reach to prove with evidence that they were indeed connected.
This kind of stuff >>370253
was weird AS FUCK like it's impossible that there was nothing that could have come out of the whole thing.
And of course the media only cherry picked the pizza shop story and ran with it and made it look like a joke.
Once the priests in Pennsylvania were uncovered to mostly be pedophiles, made me think about pizzagate again. If so many priests have rings like that, how is it hard to believe that politicians and celebrities do, too?
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Those caravans are funded by George Soros, who also funds the BLM.>>370582
Yes. There are idiots who believe this shit. (Pic related)
Eh. Plenty of people called Michelle a man while her husband was in office. And they’re still around. Not to say that the Obamas haven’t done anything sketchy but even the thinnest skinned politicians doesn’t go after someone who mocks their personal appearance. Even Trump, as stupid and narcissistic as he is, doesn’t secretly murder someone for making fun of him being fat and having a toupee. These people have bigger shit to worry about.
Besides, Joan Rivers was old as fuck and got tons of procedures, especially in her later years. The way she died was inevitable.
there were huge threads on chris cornell being suicided on lipstick alley but they all got deleted or hidden and im not a member so i cant see them anymore
but they still have a huge fan thread dedicated to him and mention stuff there i think
they also arent very fond of his or chesters wives(exes?) and mention that they are involved in some way
He was her handler (a fancy name for an elite tard-wrangler) at the time. Handlers are known to trigger
their victims into submission.
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Maybe that sculpture also refers to pic related?
It's from the work of Jean-Martin Charcot, a French neurologist and a sick fuck who used hypnotism and masturbation to treat "hysteria".
The amount of shit I found late in the pregnancy and after the fact is unbelievable. So many parts of my body are now permanently altered, so many life threatening risks that I went through. Sure am glad doctors were transparent with me and that I didn’t accidentally stumble across it while googling and it stressed me the fuck out while heavily pregnant which can cause further complications!!
Also, nitpick, but even fucking midwives will speak to the male partner and be more concerned about their health and general well being than yours. And these are women in a field entirely about caring for women. Go fucking figure.
>>370813>I think they want us to reproduce but only reproduce stupid people to keep the elites at the top and never questioned.
Idiocracy, and there's plenty of reason to believe it's true.
Uneducated and impulsive people get knocked up young and decide to have children. They automatically limit their upward economic and educational mobility because they have to take on low-income jobs and shovel every last dime to their family. There's no time. They never question the status quo and love welfare because they're dependent on every last dollar.
pregnancy and childbirth is honestly so repulsive to me and my brain cant handle the idea that it still exists and they havent found a way around it in 2019
surely they developed a cure by now..LMAO
getting married to some guy and having kids is such a meme.
power to women who make that decision, but the only reason so many groups of people have such vitriolic hatred for independant career women is because it's the best lifestyle you can choose imo. they don't want women to be self-sustaining and even try to convince us that we can't be, because they make more money off of the alternative. i cringe at all the ads where they push some "uwu bayyybeeez" emotional bs because all i see is "make us more consumers so we can make money!!"
yea, river phoenix was in the same cult i was in. i can only imagine the sick things that
happened to him.
How fucking stupid are you? Do you know how many elderly parents die alone from falls or injuries? Do you know how many of them are lonely, dealing with mental illness alone?
In the west, children view their parents as tools for resources and money. Once they are unable to provide that to them, children generally have fuck all to do with their parents.
Children of God/Family international
Not only did they made kids have sex with each other but also with adults. The cult would also have choir singing for the Clinton’s (and the Bush’s?) at the White House
Can you elaborate on your experience with the cult or is it too traumatic for you to speak of at this time?
If that’s the case, we understand.
What is your take on the “13 bloodlines”? Seems legit or nah?
One fam had a u.s president, another started the jehova’s witnesses religion and not all families are European one of them was probably mentioned in a Cardcaptor Sakura movie.https://m.ranker.com/list/main-families-of-illuminati/mike-rothschildhttps://www.cia.gov/library/abbottabad-compound/FC/FC2F5371043C48FDD95AEDE7B8A49624_Springmeier.-.Bloodlines.of.the.Illuminati.R.pdf
where are the actual sources for any of this? even in the book the author admits at one point >"In terms of research … from a scale from 0 to 100, I’m about at 10."
also it's interesting how ten of the thirteen families that supposedly control the WORLD just happen to be American. like only one asian family? really? I find it all very hard to believe.
I've been looking into bloodlines and how the people of the bible seem to be referring to blood lines and different families of people.
Sure all royalty are royal because they're believed to be ordained by God and that's why royal blood is so special. >>371869
Sure the current United States of America is a mixing pot of different cultures and ethnicities. All people are mixed and hybridised except for the extremely isolated people that are protected (like islanders etc).
There's a lot of historical context is holy scriptures and with modern science we are able to date and analyse samples for information. Ancient DNA can be synthesised and replicated to find biomarkers.
Funny that today's modern wars are still in the Holy lands and holy relics are constantly targeted before researchers are allowed access. And guess who controls all research in Israel
Nice and simple.
But seriously, I think this is something a lot of people, even people who are soft core nonbelievers (just go along to get along types even though they doubt), are afraid to admit.
I remember I had an art history class years ago where our final exam was based on Kubrick’s 2001. And the interview he gave to Playboy about the possibility of alien intervention in human evolution was eerie in a way because of how he described these sort of pure spirit energies.
I wonder sometimes if humans were confronted with this kind of reality, if religion would no longer be such a crutch (seemingly) in our interpersonal development.
So many wars, so much unnecessary judgment and fear surrounds this idea of the Abrahamic god. I wonder sometimes where we would be spiritually in the West if so much of our morality, ethics, and opinions about others didn’t hinge on this idea of everything revolving around god.
Here’s the interview for anyone interested -http://genius.cat-v.org/stanley-kubrick/interviews/playboy-1968
religious people are preparing for an alien invasion believe it or not
they believe aliens are demons and that an invasion will be part of the fight of armageddon
ive been interested in this for awhile and like to snoop around forums of various denominations, and ive seen it mentioned by catholics, baptists, muslims, etc
Samefagging but the link isn’t complete damn it.
I can’t find the original but I think this is another proper transcription which gives everything he said.https://scrapsfromtheloft.com/2016/10/02/playboy-interview-stanley-kubrick/
Anon I enjoy doing the same thing.
I remember that from my Christian teen years when I used to hang out on religious message boards a lot.
So much of religion, especially Christianity and her sisters, seems to rest on this idea that humans are the center of all existence, which seems silly considering how big the universe is. If we were confronted with another type of life form, physical or not, I wonder where it would take us.
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maybe not a tinfoil but i feel like ill get boolied here less lol, marriage is a scam and the government only pushes getting married and having kids so they make money off of more consumers. in my experience people think you're crazy if you express dislike towards the idea of getting married and reproducing so i think everyone has been brainwashed by media/ads on this picture-perfect disingenuous idea of being someone's partner/parent because of its pathos
This is exactly it, which is why the MGTOWs and incels cry so much about roasties taking their money and the kids.
They'd love it if they could all do what men try and do now: Live with you for a decade, then leave you after wasting most of your youth with him while he goes and gets a younger model.
If you're married you will at least get some money in the divorce as compensation for being abandoned and becoming the dreaded "single mother". A woman loses a ton of status if she geta divorced or leaves a long term relationship. A man gets to be the handsome bachelor forever.
Divorce means we don't end up with nothing, or destitute on the street when he gets bored with us. So you wanna be the cool girl who's anti-marriage? Use me up and leave me with nothing, guys! Being cool is more important than avoiding being destitute on the street!
Source: Divorced parents, father still bitter decades later that we're still alive, has not given us any money for over a decade but he literally wanted us homeless on the street and we survived thanks to the courts being fair on my mother back then.
Additional source: All the guys I've met who had live-in girlfriends for 6-10 years and then suddenly dropped them for flings or short term relationships with younger, sexier women.
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No, you're 100% correct. Everything negative about motherhood, marriage and childbirth is completely hidden or minimized in order to get women to continue having children with men.
I mean for gods sake, just read any confession on "Scary Mommy Confessions" to see how many women were lied to about motherhood.
We've been having children and being mothers for so long, yet we've never been able to express any negative opinions about it without fear of social exile.
I think mothering has probably gotten harder. People don't live in close knit communities anymore, don't live near family, since they don't have a giant passel of kids they don't get much help from the older kids with the younger ones, and domestic service was more common and affordable. Employment wasn't as centralized outside of the home and laxer zoning regulations meant it was easier to run businesses from the household so parents weren't as cut up by costs for daycare and they could socialize with adults throughout the day. Children spent more time playing outside, children started working and contributing to household expenses much earlier, etc. There's a lot going on but overall the expectation of motherhood now is a much more cloistered one where a lone mother spends her day with her kids. My mom was an immigrant and could tell you the difference in parenting between both nations first hand and found American style parenting very socially isolating and difficult.
I've inadvertently ended up in a job where I work with children and its practically an expectation that mothers be joined at the hip with their kids now. Its an overly sentimental vision of motherhood championed by conservatives and liberals alike and I don't think its healthy. Women end up smothering their children and personal identity and everyone thinks this is good.
Reading this is sad for everyone. You have exhausted moms tired of being moms and kids that need them.
I agree>>373162 You need more than mom and dad to raise kids. To raise them requires a community or family nearby. But that isn't favorable or promoted
Does anyone think that the world is actually overpopulated or do you think that that
is a theory in itself to prevent too many people from being born so it'll be easier to conquer the world? Elite population control is such a creepy and terrifying theory to me especially since the population they want is 500 million. It'd be over 90% of the world killed off
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>>373176>Does anyone think that the world is actually overpopulated
for a society that is safe, free of disease, and has all of the lovely comforts we've come to enjoy and life would be largely miserable without? yes, we're definitely overpopulated. people will say "no, we have plenty of room", but first off, dense living are the perfect situations for pandemics, and medical waste, waste in general, public safety is a major risk with higher populations, resources are wearing thin, and the effects of pollution and climate change are going to be hitting us very soon, so yes, for everyone to live comfortably, we're overpopulated. people are living longer and longer, too. overpopulation is the reason for every complaint that people have. you cannot meaningfully construct well designed civilizations without having some population check.
>do you think that that is a theory in itself to prevent too many people from being born so it'll be easier to conquer the world? Elite population control is such a creepy and terrifying theory to me especially since the population they want is 500 million. It'd be over 90% of the world killed off
no, because it's in the interest of wealth owners and the elite to devalue labor and human rights, which is easier to do when people are expendable as fuck. people complain about jobs, pollution, cities being too busy, wages being too low, crime, etc, it's all a result of unchecked population growth. having children plays right into the hands of the elite.
Anon, I understand if you think I’m a bad person for what I’m about to say but I do kind of understand population control and why it may be necessary in the future.
I think eventually we’ll have non-Earth colonies in space where cities and infrastructure are taken and that they’ll have a certain number of people living there to balance our current population, perhaps artificial farming as I don’t think we can live sustainably at the rate we are currently reproducing at.
i'm the anon that the anon you responded to, responded to… sorry for bad wording lol
i don't know if you were implying i was a "cool girl who is anti-marriage", but i just wanted to say, i'm not. i don't want to get into any relationships with men, period. i am completely supportive of people who want to get married, but i have my reasons for not feeling like marriage is "for me".
>overpopulation is the reason for every complaint that people have. you cannot meaningfully construct well designed civilizations without having some population check.
I think this is an unfortunate truth a lot of people have a hard time reconciling.
I mean, I’m not an expert or anything, I’m just another citizen of the world, but we’re not evolving like we should be anymore as we continually push up against one another, fight and scrap, people are stratified across economic lines because there aren’t enough jobs for everyone, etc. This isn’t an ideal situation.
We may look back at the past and criticize how backwards our ancestors may have been, but they lived knowing and understanding something modern people don’t - this balance of life and death. Nowadays everybody seems to be suffering from some sort of existential dread as we build on top of one another, or people resort to radicalism to combat the sense of meaningless and a loss of identity.
There’s a lot I love about living in the modern world and all it’s luxuries, but as I get older I wonder more and more where we are going and what it all ultimately means. It seems like we are continually fighting endless wars in places no one cares about, I see people dreaming of these utopias where the value of the individual is lost in a quagmire of words and empty philosophies instead of concrete action, and ideas are jealously guarded by an elite class which forces the poor and the outcast to sell their soul to whomever preaches the loudest. We no longer ask questions about the human condition, people don’t really challenge the status quo and those that do often have ulterior motives which ultimately benefit themselves.
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100% agree. It’s crazy that being childless/childfree is depicted as horribly selfish when not having any offspring is the easiest way to ensure you have a smaller carbon footprint. >>373141
The internet has just confirmed how much parenthood sucks and I’m so glad I don’t feel the pressure to procreate anymore. Happy for people who genuinely want children (even if I think the world is overpopulated and honestly wish more people would adopt/that adoption was an easier process) but it just sounds GHASTLY and I hate how so many people blindly follow the life script.
Just a bit.. yeah to the mid 30s or even 40s these days.. with one or two kids at the most. And marriage-less relationships as well as divorces are more accepted and promoted, so much OOW are becoming more common than "non-bastard" kids.
Fertility rate of all race and sexes is going down, I'm telling you right now that's not from the media telling them to have kids lol
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Posting here, because it could be all bullshit.
I randomly found this in the 4chan archives and it mostly contains some autist sperging about how ugly some model is.
But she/he also talks about how yakuza supposedly controls lolita fashion, that Kota is also one of their "whores" and about Gackt also being part of that business.
>Well, Japanese lolitas and cosplayers are threatened and harassed to quit lolita/cosplay as a whole by people affiliated with ad agencies(=Yakuzas) because the "market" now belongs to the Kanto Rengo network and not the former customers. Lolita brands have no power to kick out Yakuzas. Putomayo is closing, H.Naoto closed, Meta's designer got kicked out of her own company, Mary Magdalene's owner slept with a teenager…etc.
>A night before seiyuu Ai Takabe was arrested for drug posessions, she was at a party with 50 celebrities and one of them was Dakota Rose.
>Attendees of this "party" was under thei influences of substances that people suspect shady ties with drug dealers.
Read if you've got some spare time on your hands and are bored.
Kek anon you should play the Yakuza series, there's a storyline in the 5th game about the idol industry and yakuza affiliation.>Gackt
You might like this video; it details everyone who has been “suicided” by the Clinton’s before and
after Bill’s presidency.
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I don't think he was ever considering running really. He was into acting, failed his bar exam like three times, and for like ever he was heavily invested in this terrible chic pop culture and politics magazine that he dreamt up. Don't really think much beyond being the modelesque heir to a political dynasty was on his radar. Yes that is Cindy Crawford in a George Washington costume and unsurprisingly the magazine was a flop
There's a difference between obvious WK and intervention of other cows VS the skillful manipulation that goes over other people's head. It is on the same level of narcissistic manipulation.
This is what I meant by that. Also, nice distraction and false equivalency ya did, anon. ;p
Also found it weird that they would spell dominoes as "dominos"…
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See this Planned Parenthood memo from the 60's, not long after it's openly racist/eugenicist nature was not obfuscated
Black Nobility:>Stanley, Morgan, Goldman, Kuhn/Kohn/Cohn/Cohen, Oppenheimer, Rothschild, Rockefeller, Warburg, Spencer-Churchill, Stuart/Stewart, Planck, Smith, Jasper, Levy, Palmer, Gordon, Moore, Fitzgerald, Kennedy, Noble, Bennett, Forbes, Beresford, Bancroft, Barclay, Cabot, Higginson, Adams, Baker, Coffin, Cooper, Delano, Gardner, Otis, Quincy, Rice, Bush, Lehman, Tudor, Sassoon, Shermans, Clarkes, Royces, Lindsays, Raffles, Robinson, Pratt, Bartlett, Abraham, Guggenheim, Loeb, Strauss, Sach, Lazard, Seaf, Schiff, Morgan, Schroder, Harriman
Jesuits: >Aldobrandini/Borghese, Breakspear, Borja/Borgia, Chigi, Colonna/Cologna, Conti, Farnese/delle overe, Gaetani/Caetani, Merdici/Medici/Domedici, Orsini/Maximus, Pamphii, Somaglia, Este Estence, Flavian
Black Nobility Houses:
>House of Bernadotte, Sweden
>House of Bourbon, France
>House of Braganza, Portugal
>House of Grimaldi, Monaco
>House of Guelph, Britain (the most important one)
>House of Habsburg, Austria
>House of Hanover, Germany (the second most important one)
>House of Hohenzollern, Germany
>House of Karadjordjevic, Yugoslavia (former)
>House of Liechtenstein, Liechtenstein
>House of Nassau, Luxembourg
>House of Oldenburg, Denmark
>House of Orange, Netherlands
>House of Savoy, Italy
>House of Wettin, Belgium
>House of Wittelsbach, Germany
>House of Württemberg, Germany
>House of Zogu, Albanian
>>370214>get as much personal stories and dox
How would they obtain this info, unless you excessively blogpost?
sage for pizzabait
I think microchipping as a way of tracking victims
definitely exists. we know it exists in black market international sex trafficking, why not Hollywood as well
hmm as someone with problems self harming I'm pretty sympathetic to marina (she had a fucked childhood iirc so its understandable that she would use self harm in such an exhibitionistic way) and don't actually believe she's deeply involved outside of her edgy art being appealing to whackjobs but hey who knows
maybe I'm just sad that a woman artist who struggled with bad things could now be involved in perpetration? maybe I find her art too easy to sympathise with. idk
Children of the elites often have fucked up childhoods due to SRA, but that doesn’t mean we continue to feel sorry for them as they continue the abuse.
But I guess you don’t really care bcuz MUH FEELS!!!! are more important than blatant satanism and pedophelia.
I am that anon you replied to (still hanging around, yep) and precisely because I used to self-harm for 15 years or so I am not supportive of her histrionic art. Women that self-harm are usually ashamed and yet they get accused of doing it for attention and laughed at. I can imagine it was worse in the 70's as there was less knowledge about this kind of behavior and mental illness in general. And yet this pos used a very real torment as a shocking gimmick and still gets praised for it because ~it's art uwu~.
Plus what >>381628
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courtney stoddens resemblance to marilyn monroe freaks me out
the fact that she's obsessed with her certainly doesnt help, but her mannerisms and everything just look like her so much that it really does make me wonder if reincarnation or cloning is a thing
Tbh if it was regulated and out in the open I’d have zero issue with discarded fetal tissue going to research and other purposes of good.
I take those videos with a grain of salt, this country is not universally pro-choice, if this was really the smoking gun prolifers think it is, it’d be nationwide outrage.
Yeah, just the fact it's all behind the curtain just really freaks me out.
I also just have a huge problem with inserting compensation or money in this for anyone. Selling someone else's fetal tissue just so you can personally profit is just so fucking weird. These tissues should be used for research, not so they can be passed around to the highest bidder. There honestly needs to be a ban on harvesting and selling tissues for private profit.>>382083
That's not too bad, but it still isn't right that one party profits from selling the foreskins. No one should be paid for harvesting tissues, just so you can transform them into consumerist products.
It is regulated https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R44129.pdf
The entire series of the PP videos were made my the Center for Medical Progress, an anti-abortion group
What they thought were "smoking guns" were literally worthless. The only people that cared were pro-lifers, but nothing discussed in any of the videos is/was illegal. It sounds scary to the average person who doesn't know anything about fetal tissue research, which was the purpose of making the video.
The last I heard the founder of Center for Medical Progress was facing 15 felony charges related to the videos, not sure what ever happened with that>>382065
OP of the video please actually research this shit before blindly believing a vehemently anti-abortion group. Fetal tissue has been used for years and now we're using it for medical research on conditions like Parkinson's. Fetal tissue research is the reason why we have vaccines for chicken pox and shingles and aren't constantly disease-riddled! It's actually being phased out as stem cell research becomes more advanced. And the women who donate fetal tissue do so on a voluntary basis; the process for the patient is just the same as any other abortion so I don't really know what you mean by "of course the patient receives absolutely nothing in return," abortions are typically very safe and you can recover at home.
yes, it's regulated, and the videos are trying to show that those regulations are being violated.
page 5 of the PDF you linked: > the timing, method, or procedures used to terminate the pregnancy were not altered in order to obtain the tissue; and the abortion was performed in accordance with applicable state law.
the doctors in the PP videos said that they were altering the procedures to get intact tissue, which is illegal. this isn't a pro-choice issue, it's about doctors potentially hurting women for profit. they should be trying to perform the abortion in the safest way, that's supposed to be the only priority, not trying to get research materials. the pdf also says that they can receive money for the fetal tissue, but only to cover the costs associated with storage/transportation/etc, but they can't profit off of selling them. the centre for medical progress videos also imply that PP was making money beyond just covering those costs.
literally every claim that the pro-lifers made about PP is specified as being illegal in that document, did you even read the shit that you linked?
you can say that you think the videos are faked or whatever, or that you think those things shouldn't be illegal, but you can't claim that admitting to illegal activity isn't a "smoking gun"
Marilyn was the first monarch slave so of course the elites would make Courtney and all the other famous bitches look like her.
This process is part of the beta (sex-kitten) program.>>382162
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Her eyes and mannerisms are so fucked. She literally moves like an animatronic.
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I believe that for sure. But they have done a REAL good job with her in comparison to the others. Just off of the top of my head, all the celebrities and drag queens and everyone else who's tried to take on her persona, Anna Nicole, Madonna, etc, none managed to look or act THIS much like her. It just freaks me out because she literally has her face lol.
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Courtney's manner is very studied. She tries hard to make herself act like Marilyn, which might not bring Marilyn to the viewer's mind if Courtney looked different, but pair it with her Marilyn makeup and Marilyn nosejob and you can't help but think of Marilyn.
She's basically a Marilyn impersonator at times, which is sad because if you try to copy someone else you'll only ever be a second-rate version of them.
Sorry for ruining the conspiracy theory lol. I would like Marilyn to be reincarnated but nah, Courtney is just a woman who needs therapy and a sense of identity so she's trying to be someone else.
The way Gatter is talking about the possibility
of changing the method of abortion from manual to machine suction in the video makes it clear that it has not been done even though the guy tries to bait her. She even says, "Well, now you’re shading into the area of you’re paying me to do something that’s not right. So that’s not what I want to talk about!" after he attempts to bait her into saying she would take more money to instruct a doctor to improperly administrate an abortion to get fetal tissue.
What seems to be "haggling" on her end is CMP leading her into agreeing to raise the price. She says $50 and he keeps saying other places pay more, she needs to raise the price. She literally says "we’re not in it for the money… [but] there are costs associated with the use of our space…" and then says "It’s been years since I talked about compensation, so let me just figure out what others are getting…" sure, there should be a discussion of how much specifically they need to reimburse their costs, but it's not as nefarious as it seems at first glance. In other CMP videos, like the one with Melissa Farrell, she clearly specifies the costs. It seems to me that Gatter doesn't know the specific cost, or is led to believe that they should be reimbursed more for services rendered, but states she is going to see what the appropriate cost would be.
Sure, the video raises red flags. Mary Gatter is unsavory but she isn't making every decision at Planned Parenthood, and it's stupid to think that this is some conspiracy or that there's some nefarious scheme involving hollywood skincare or something else idiotic. No illegal activity was admitted to in the video.
Well, he asks her about changing the procedure to get an intact specimen, and then, starting at 4:40, she says that there's "a little problem, which may not be a big problem" about how if they change the procedure at all, aiming to get better tissue:
>"Then we're kind of violating the protocol that says to the patient, 'we're not doing anything different in our care of you'">"Now to me, that's kind of a specious little argument and I wouldn't object to asking Ian, who's our surgeon who does the cases"
(to alter the usual procedure) >"in order to increase the odds that he's going to get an intact specimen">"But I do need to throw that out there as a concern"
then she acknowledges that it's illegal, because they've both signed something (doctor and patient) but she doesn't think there's a big difference in doing one or the other
So can you explain to me how she isn't saying that she "WOULDN'T OBJECT" to doing something that she's admitting is illegal, and calling the expectation that she would adhere to a signed legal document a "specious little argument", because in her mind she's only "KIND OF violating" it
of course she would get uncomfortable once he makes it clear that he's setting her up, but you can't deny that she agreed to it, and said that she doesn't think the law is a big deal
they have another video on their channel called: "Planned Parenthood's Custom Abortions for Better Baby Parts", which has more examples of this
by the way, i'm not a conspiracy theorist or anything, not even a pro-lifer, just being realistic about the fact that money tends to be more valued than women's health
you dont have to be a conspiracy theorist to think its fucked up for a multitude of reasons, to be using human body parts(especially that of fetuses or dead babies) for products and consumerism
its honestly gross and scary and i cant believe anyone would defend it
Obviously I know the video was funded by a pro-life organization, but my point was what >>382259
said, the fact that only the most elite people are getting shocking amounts of money to twist the rules and laws for a purely consumerist desire is completely fucked up. The fact that after she talks about bending the rules, she jokes, "I want a Lamborghini" while shoving her face with food at some shitty dinner is so Lynchian and disgusting.
I don't have a problem with abortion, nor do I have a problem with fetal tissues being used for research. I have a fucking problem with these elitist demons behind the show profiteering from women's bodies and their pain, while they still have to bear all of the shame and burdens from the procedure. The commerical sale of fetal tissue should be banned because we don't fucking need it in our skincare/beauty/health products, we need it only in research.
Wow you’ve actually bought into the CMP pro lifer garbage. No human body parts are being sold. Fetal tissue is being sold.
They’re not tearing arms off babies and selling them on the black market for nefarious purposes. The rhetoric of ~dead babies are being ripped apart limb by limb for profit~ is fucking dangerous, as evidenced by the man who shot up a PP office and killed people explicitly for that reason. >>382257
There was no wrongdoing done by PP proved by investigations into their practices, and PP never even attempted to work with the fake company in these videos in the end because of their illegal propositions, so I’m not sure why you’re taken something a medical director for Pasadena said she would run by a doctor as a possibility as bible truth. I’m sorry to say but there’s no conspiracy here, just some old hag who’s bad at her job. >>382395
Is $50-$100 for services rendered really so shocking to you? You’ll be very shocked when you find out that the middlemen who buy tissue and sell to other organizations sometimes charge tens of thousands of dollars. They’re the ones profiting here, not abortion providers. Planned parenthood makes barely any money off of it. Should there be more regulations? Absolutely, but I really think you guys are off base here.
It has absolutely nothing to do with being pro life.
Its fucking disgusting period and its a slippery slope.
Human body parts or "tissue" should only be used to advance medically or to provide life saving advantages to other humans, it should never be used for consumerism.
Dont act like its the same thing as stem cell research, organ donation or in vitro or anything that is medically apt which I think most people would agree are perfectly fine.
We are talking about rich people using essence of humans(however little the amount is or whether or not you want to get into "a fetus aint a human lulz" bullshit or not) for vain, elitist consumption and its practically how every dystopian novel starts.
So, I wanted to just bring this up out of curiosity.
What do some of you guys think about scientific rationalism, materialistic philosophy (NOT consumerism) and how politicized ‘science’ has become in the world?
I’m neither for no against it, but I am curious about many of the ‘beliefs’ which have become pretty much dogma within the past 20 or so years in the post modern era. For example:
>many so-called ‘scientists’ have become quasi-religious figures with devoted followings who have specific beliefs about how the world operates and any deviation from it, and you are met with vitriolic shaming
>a lot of popular scientific media and pop culture theories advocate for a very rationalistic, materialistic worldview where humans are often reduced to nothing more than machine organs, and moral codes/values are derided for ‘holding people back’
>religion is universally panned as evil without even attempting to understand its relationship to human evolution, and you are not allowed to consider the potential existence of spiritual entities or a reality which does not conform to the linear, technologically-centered civilization ‘science’ advocates will be our future
>very little interesting research is shown to the public, giving people the impression that scientists do not explore certain theories and do not ask certain questions, and what is often seen is often very one sided and dated
>the diluted version of certain philosophies like ‘subjective reality’ are passed down into soft fields like the social sciences, giving rise to the idea that our individual reality cannot be trusted, that humans do not share the same experiences, and that we cannot trust ourselves to think without someone doing it for us.
>no one is allowed to question how artificial intelligence will affect human society, even though it is becoming increasingly more likely that advanced technology will render some aspects of human life obsolete, possibly creating even more inequality than ever before
>humans in industrialized, advanced societies are encouraged to eschew compassion, emotions like empathy, culture, beauty, and tradition as these values are in conflict with the world which is being created
>in regards to the above, students in university are encouraged to focus ONLY on tech-based degrees, and the liberal arts deemed ‘obsolete’ because these courses are human centric; potentially the humanities may be written out of curriculm as they are deemed unnecessary, leaving students in the dark on the human condition and the powers which shape our history
BTW, I’m not anti-science. I am, however, becoming aware of something funky in the way the world is moving.
You're right, there is a big problem with 'scientific rationalism'. And the problem is scientists LARPing as philosophers and speaking outside of the fields they are expert in. Meme scientists don't just do this with philosophy, meme scientists can and do comment on medicine, sociology, economics and political theory when they lack the proper understanding. The whole 'technocrat' movement was basically meme scientists doing this.
There are actually decent scientists with a philosophical understanding, many even use their knowledge of mathematics to justify metaphysics and certain forms of platonism, not every scientist is a radical phenomenonist/empiricist. These aren't the celebrity scientists unfortunately though.
'science' doesn't exist. Well it does exist but it also doesn't. 'science' is a 19th century meme logical positivists and hard empiricists used to re-brand 'Natural philosophy', early modernists like Hume and friends thought empirical testing couldn't extend to discovering axioms and the human mind, but later modernists believed they could.
This isn't a new problem though, it's getting worse because we've disregarded the humanities so much in our society. The meme scientists are the same technocrats as always. But the humanities and universities themselves are responsible for losing the battle, by dropping their standards they hollowed out what the humanities meant. And embracing subjectivism and post-modernism to the extent they did has crippled the ability of people in the humanities to make sense of their culture and the world around them.
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Forgot my picture, this fuck is basically exactly who I'm talking about.
I'm not particularly smart or knowledgeable, but I'll give it my best shot.
Basically, I agree for the most part with >>382751
. But I have noticed that the top echelons of technology specialists have (re-)embraced the roles of humanities in advancing technological research. Mainly in AI, humanity and human beings are being re-focused into the limelight. This doesn't seem to be trickling down to the lower levels of research atm, students and such. Mid-career professionals seem to be getting the message in my limited experience.
I think part of the problem lies in that schools are teaching science outside of its context. We learn that the Earth is flat, lava is molten rock, and so on. I'm only an asshole who took a class about the history of scientific theory once, but it did change my view in important ways. We know lava is molten rock because people were trying to find logical explanations that a supernatural being could really create a world in 7 days. Most of the early discoverers of scientific theory were deeply religious and trying to explain their beliefs. Scientists these days are characterized as anti-religious, cold, solidly logical, rational beings, but a lot of the scientific facts we accept as fundamental nowadays was rooted in religion. I don't know where the shift in perspective happened, though.
I definitely agree that science has become politicized. Many scientists and researchers can only do as much as the money will allow.
As for Subjective Reality:>humans do not share the same experiences
beyond the really basic, survivalist experiences, we do not. I cannot even begin to actually understand what it is like to be poor in a 3rd world country. I honestly believe anyone who believes that all humans experience the same shit in the same way in all parts of the globe is just a self absorbed weirdo.
Most of your issues with science seem like issues with capitalism as it appears to us now. What research that actually happens is usually an issue with what type of research gets funded (what is better for politics or profits). Keeping people from understanding our fellows is what makes them spend money against us. Looping back to AI research, the technology is almost basically there. Speech recognition, for example, has like a 5-10% error rate. They are refocusing and putting more importance into "soft" science and human-based behaviors so it is not totally hopeless. "Soft" science (anthropology, sociology, etc) were all held in very high regard for as long as men dominated those fields.
Half of the comments on his page when it were announced were saying it was suspicious.
Now they have deleted his page because there was too much evidence on it. Just proves foul play. They took his company and then he mysteriously "fell" from 33 floors. I feel so bad for him. Thank you Brandon for being honest so we all know what happened to you. I hope people boycott the parent company. I bet the products will go to shit now too that he isn't designing and overseeing it.
I think anyone with a business should either sell outright or ignore all offers. They used their share/investment to illegally push him out, remove him as CEO, delete the founder page, ban him from his own stores. They stole his company from right under him, but thousands of fans saw and know.
Can someone post a summary for my dumb ass so I understand how and why they (who?) are using fetal tissue from abortions for medical experiments (or something?)
Is this with the mother's consent? Are they selling anything as a result? Help my dumb self out please
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I'm digging around to see if he has posted about this anywhere else.
And she also looked up his wife’s name on google, I think she’s connected to this.
It doesn’t help that her dad’s a Freemason either
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Good lord anon, that's heavy.
Is there any way for the public to obtain information about how expensive it is for airline companies to review/install safety features?
I know you could probably collect information about the victim
's lawsuits but what the actual airlines spend and decide to spend on seems to be much more hidden.
How much of these corporation's actions and dealing are public information?
Yes absolutely, plus it would help the pedophiles to compartmentalize the events in their own minds and appear to be normal in everyday life. It's like some horrific dream sequence for all parties…other than the trauma and injuries maintained by the victims
I am not sure that I buy it. Aren't planes built using redundancy as a safety measure?
Though at the same time, I am not aware of what is done vs what could be done, using technology available to us atm.
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I get this is the tinfoil thread but have you ever actually looked into what it takes to get a plane in the air? Shit is regulated to hell and back. I have close friends and family working at Boeing and you can't fart in a room there without having to fill out three different pieces of paperwork. I mean, they literally pay a guy 80k a year to inspect screws and bolts so the idea that they would then cut costs on more effective safety measures just doesn't make any sense.
Also litigation is peanuts compared to money they get from shareholders and when planes crash, stock values crash.
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I’m starting to think that this board is run by N**l with a full mod team of scrotes and troons, I’ve also had suspicion that multiple cows have been fucking the mods to get their threads taken down. Pear and PnP were the milkiest people this site ever had and they shut them down!
O and Lainey looks like a foot(:DDDDd farmham has ben put out to basture xD)
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I think the theory that everyone in the media/hollywood knew about 9/11 beforehand is very interesting, Im always coming across random pics and videos that seemed to have predicted it or alluded to it in some way that I never saw before.
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I mean, Baron does
look like the kid in the novel.
they already are there. My tinfoil is that they're desperate to overturn roe v wade/restrict bc for white womeb so they can force their birthrate back up and
not become a minority. Pretty sure it'll fail
I remember reading a prediction by Baba Vanga who claimed in the future all races and ethnicities of people will come together and become 1 and I kinda believe it
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>tfw start buying into the Mandela Effect theory
I told my mom about it, and mentioned the Fruit of The Loom thing. She agreed with me and said the cornucopia had always been there.
It's definitely real. I think it's some form of mass gaslighting to see just how much "they" can get away with.
Apparently Britney’s now in the loony-bin being reprogrammed. #freebritney>>400056
Ugh, why the fuck are you here then if you don’t believe or explore any of this shit? Do you even realize where you are?
I believe Sewol ferry accident was caused by SK's governement, as a sacrifice for the cult that their ex-president was involved in.
There are so many nonsensical shit, president being gone for 7 hours and government not helping and just ordering the coastal guard to film the sinking ship, president referring to the victims
as "noble sacrifices", government obviously hiding evidence etc…https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmAwXHu7sCg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhME_nj5CWc
If you dig deeper, you'll start getting into the reports and interviews with parents of the deceased that some victims
had died by hypothermia. Indicating that they didn't drown, but were in fact trapped within the ferry inside air pockets for hours before being overcome by elements.
It's accused that the SK government purposefully stalled the rescue efforts and rejected foreign intervention. Specifically the Coast Guard who outright turned away diving assistance.
Sadly, I've tinfoiled about this before with a similar argument about airplane crashes versus cost of installing proper safety features: It's easier for companies (or government in this case) to cover up dead bodies than to risk survivors.
In this case, the SK government already had a conflict of interest in being involved with the Korean Shipping Association, aka the people who overlooked the modifications and overloading done to the ferry. Corruption.
The second the SK gov't got word of that ferry sinking, the higher ups KNEW some people be going down, but also knew that the outcome would be worse for many more if there were survivors to be had–witnesses to the negligence, Coast Guard cover up, and ergo more people who wouldn't disappear any time soon. Survivors would cause bad air for decades and demand compensation. Pesky things just won't shut up and go away on their own.
Dead bodies are silent. Students "accidentally" dying in a disaster due to poor safety regulations is a "sacrifice" and a "tragedy," not malicious murder, or so it would seem to someone not looking too hard into the headlines.
When parents of the victims
demanded answers and compensation, the SK government painted them as money hungry leeches. Park Geun Hye, the now impeached ex SK president, blacklisted any artist who tried to represent the ferry sinking. Park wasn't present for several hours after first word of the ferry sinking (some people attribute this to cult theories and the outside advisor), but I think the bitch was just getting her ducks in order and parachuting the most VIP corrupt officials.
if you take a gander into the kpop crit thread or just happen to browse some news sites today, theres info about the clubs the idols and elites are connected too now being alleged to have made snuff films and actively participated in trafficking and raping literal children
its crazy and scary shit and its not exclusive to korea im sure it happens in hollywood too but people freak out if you even suggest theres a possibility of truth in the theories
The conspiracy to make people shit in a toilet is the best kept secret of the Jews.
Yesterday I came to the conclusion that the other Jewish conspiracies are a mere smoke screen for the newbies to ignore the Jewish conspiracy of the toilets.
Until the invasion of Venezuela by the CIA is because Venezuelans do not have toilet paper, so the Jews seek to enslave them to use toilet paper and thus make millions of toilet and sanitary products for cleaning the ass when people shit .
That's why the UN is carrying out education campaigns in India so that the Hindus shit in toilets, it is clearly a Jewish plan to sell sanitary, toilet paper and soap in India.
That's why the Jews pass laws so that shitting in the bush is illegal.
That is why children are brainwashed so that they learn to clean their ass with toilet paper and shit in toilets, Jews control education globally, it is only logical that they promote this since it makes them earn a lot of money selling paper hygienic and sanitary.
There are many Jews in the toilet industry, Jews control the bathroom soaps industry, bath towels and other industries related to shitting in a toilet.
Jews also control porn, which is why in scat videos they are toilets, it is part of the Jewish plan so that people who subconsciously fap with shit use toilets.
On television we see commercials of soap and toilet paper every day to clean our asses, clearly when controlling TV and newspapers too, it is evidence of a Jewish conspiracy to do social engineering so that people buy cleaning products to clean their asses when they shit in a toilet.
Hitler knew of these plans to make people shit in toilets, that's why he made World War II and turned Jews into soaps.
Everything that has happened since then is evidence of the Jewish plan to make everyone shit in toilets.
The other Jewish plans on the NWO and the white genocide are mere smoke screens so that people do not suspect the plan of the toilets.(This is bait.)
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I think Brie Larson is being shilled to promote manly features so that the public will be more receptive to trannies and see them as the beauty standard. I don't think she is a tranny though.
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They are continuing to blur the gender lines, all according to keikaku.
I was going to ask why Avicii was killed off while Dave Mustaine is allowed to live, but then I watched both videos and realized that >>403245
is straight to the point, more poignant and rings more true, while this Megadeth video doesn't really betray any truths, and is almost….exploitative and trite.
Whoever wrote the Megadeth video only knows as much as any regular person who takes the time to read about Pizzagate. Avicii, on the other hand, probably knew a bit more than anyone can say for sure at this point. Who knows what he might have eventually exposed if left alone?
I think the same is true for the creator of Pan's Labyrinth, but his silence has been bought and paid for.
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You think that woman looks "manly"?
We need more butch women in media if people think that's manly kek.
I saw in one thread someone calling Gillian Anderson manly. What kind of warped perception of femininity do you need to have that you consider a woman manly?
I get the feeling that as soon a woman isn't have a fairy tier long hair in a long dress with huge eyes, small button nose, and heart shaped lips, she's automatically deemed a guy here.
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The video came out after the whole pizzagate thing calmed down, and then I found this tweet…
>nothing surprises me anymore
>>403686>conventionally beautiful feminine face>square jaw
pushing trans narrative!>>403747>has soft feminine face>has curvy body with large breasts and nice butt>has short hair and is strong
Can't stand these transvestigator people. I know that's not what you're saying but there's literally people out there who think HITLER was trans. One of my friends actually believes in the "Michelle Obama is trans" conspiracy theory and that they killed Joan Rivers because she "exposed" it.
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But all women look like 8 year olds if they dont theyre men!! This one example might even be a man secretly because her orbital bone slightly protrudes reee!!!
lol what, this is just ridiculous. she doesnt even look manly she just has a square face, which is completely normal.
also, even a woman who perhaps has a few masculine features is easily distinguishable from a tranny. 99.9%+ of trannies are immediately clockable.
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Yep it's so easy to tell in almost every case. Pic related is Mac's mom from It's Always Sunny (Sandy Martin) on the left and Axl Rose on the right. Axl could seriously be almost any trans woman you see on the street and is instantly clockable. Women who look like Mac's mom aren't that rare and always look more like women than 99.9% of trans women.
So insane that people think Michelle Obama is trans. So what, she's in her 50s and they started her transition when she was young, before it was even remotely common. Because they foresee her getting married to a man who will become the president in 40 years…and they know the trans issue will be big after Obama is president…to push the trans narrative? like that is the most ridiculously insane conspiracy theory.
The trans narrative is pushed by the healthcare industry making doctors and the general public believe that the only and best treatment is lifelong hormones and surgery. They didn't need a Manchurian Candidate tranny in the white house to push this narrative lol
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You gotta have overexaggerated feminine features now in order to be a woman I guess, the media also believes Brie Larson to be flat and shapeless too
These people even claimed Marilyn monroe was trans, do these people live in cities where the women all look like ball jointed dolls and men all look like gi Joe figures? Or do they just think everyone but them is trans?
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it's her styling now that just sucks. she's very pretty and feminine when she has bangs that cover her forehead otherwise… yeah.
jenette goldstein in alien is objectively more masculine than brie but i'd rather see her in movies than brie just because i don't personally like her face.
Here's a fresh hot TINFOIL for this thread: I think the transvestigation shit and other of these new conspiracy theories are being pushed by TPTB / some psyop group to dismantle the conspiracy theory community and make it look as insane and retarded as possible.
PIZZA GATE was the FIRST pedo ring conspiracy theory to make it in mainstream media and when it was it was riddled with the most inane and irrational aspects possible.. really makes u thinkus
The conspiracy theory community hasn't been the same since 2012.
Gingers don’t age well, do they? Kek>>404804
Except there is some
truth to the pizzagate conspiracy compared to the trans one. The rituals aren’t obviously gonna be held at a pizza joint and there is also proof about Obama requesting “pizza and hotdogs”.
>>404804>a conspiracy to make conspiracy theorists look insane
no you literally do that to yourselves. meeting a conspiracy theorist in person is always such a fucking trip because tons of them are willing to admit that they believe every single theory no matter how far fetched.>inb4 wHy aRe yOu evEn HerE thEn Reeeee
i know, i know. but it’s just /ot/ so who cares. there’s some genuine crazy-person shit in this thread.
Imagine marrying a cutie like Axl Rose and then he turns into this hahahaha>>404804>transvestigation shit
What is that exactly? Is there something other than people saying some women look like men?
Also I don't understand how the media just glazed over those very real, very shady podesta emails but had to go with the most ridiculous parts of pizza gate. They would've gotten actual attention and views for that. If they thought it was ~*sooooo*~ irrational and crazy but were too afraid to go after those parts…
So are we sure our pal Onion boi isn’t under mind-control? This split personality shit has been going way back since 2002 when he came up with “Onision” and at the time claimed it was the name of his many personalities (can no longer find the source on Someguy’s tumblr anymore as I used to use that as a shortcut). Not to mention, he has family/connections to the military which is known to participate in the mk ultra project and so did the Seventh Day Adventist group. Also, this post might be on to something: >>>/pt/658248
To note:>Greg doesn’t remember anything between the ages of 5-11 other than the girls he used to crush on >He was sexually abused and harassed as a child by his mom, relatives and his camp counselor (Julia) from church >Spent a few weeks in Korean military jail for…autism and never really gave much detail about it.>He somewhat dabbled in the occult and tried to make his religion come true and apparently was demonically possessed for a time.
No. People literally think that certain historical or political or celebrity figures are trans. To further the trans narrative and/or as explanation to why they were they way they were. Video related is HITLER'S transvestigation. There's many videos like this about many other people.
>hitler had hypospadias meaning his urethra opened on the other side of his penis>IN OTHER WORDS HE HAD A V!!!!>>404804
kek I think this about Alex Jones. I know it's not true but sometimes I really feel like he's actually an agent of the government there to make any and all conspiracy theories look insane. Most of them are insane (pyramids in Antarctica for example) but many have been proven to be true.
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Hi, sorry for the late response. But to say more on the topic, pic related is what Del Toro has said about the Pale Man, a monster in Pan's Labyrinth who eats children.
On top of that, here is some more he had to say about him from a 2006 interview:>The Pale Man represents the Church for me, y'know? [He] represents fascism and the Church eating the children when they have a perversely abundant banquet in front of them. There is almost a hunger to eat innocence. A hunger to eat purity. I didn't want to avoid it, but I did not seek Catholic imagery. >Nevertheless, I understand that redemption by blood and the rebirth by sacrifice is a Catholic conceit. So I accept it without any problems because I think that sexuality and religion come from your imprint in an early age. Whatever arouses your spirit or arouses your body at an early age, that's what is going to arouse it the rest of your life. Everything will be subordinate to that. It's a personal choice and it's a personal experience.
He somewhat singles out Catholics, but it's obvious from pic related, how he phrased his answer back then and even the way the very scene is handled that he doesn't solely recognize religious folk as the only
powerful institutions or people seeking to "eat innocence and purity". Him saying he "accepts it without any problem" ("it" obviously not only being religion, but the "sexual imprint", aka pedophilia
) is what has me convinced his silence has been bought. He is absolutely no threat to the "Pale Man", no matter what he posts on Twitter or puts in his movies. That's why he hasn't been "suicided" or blacklisted from the industry.
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Same anon (I deleted/reposted this three times already because I made so many mistakes. I'm done, it's too annoying lmao). I want to add this. It's from the same interview, and it's food for thought if you've seen the movie:>[in] the movie all the tests are a misdirection and you actually go back and watch the movie and realize that my thesis is that the Faun is the Pale Man in another guise. He's the trickster in another guise. So is the Faun. And the proof of that in the movie is that at the end when she goes and rejoins her father and her mother and the baby in the other world, the fairies that the Pale Man ate are all around her. The same fairies.
So, this same faun is also, canonically, a "child-eater". And we are actually not to see him as a villain, but a sort of guide, a part of Ofelia's journey to becoming a princess.
In mythology, a faun is a charming creature that notoriously lives in a forest and flirts with beautiful women. It's already a bit suspicious for that specific creature to be chosen to get involved with a child, but that's forgivable, right? It's a forest creature, and Ofelia goes into the forest, after all.
At least that's what I thought, until I found out this was originally meant to be the story of Pan's Labyrinth:>a pregnant woman who arrived to a mansion in Spain; her husband worked for the mansion owner, restoring the home. The woman fell in love with a faun in a labyrinth–they made love–and he asked for the blood of her firstborn in order to open the gate and let her enter the magical kingdom to be with him. The ending was this woman sacrificing her son to go with the love of her life, the faun. Eventually, del Toro realized it was more interesting to talk about the magic through the girls' eyes.http://www.pajiba.com/seriously_random_lists/mindhole-blowers-20-facts-about-pans-labyrinth-that-might-make-you-believe-in-magic.php
So, in this story, instead of a grown woman being charmed, we have a little girl. And instead of a cheerful, fun-loving faun who loves music and merry-making, we have a monster with a desire to eat purity and innocence merely masquerading as one
. He "guides" her through "certain tests", and punishes her for not obeying him.
At first, I thought "But she passed the test and got a happy ending by not
killing her baby brother. If the plot was to take advantage of her naivete and eat a child, doesn't the ending go against that? And why didn't he just eat her on sight?", but to be honest, Ofelia being a pure, innocent child herself actually proves that her little brother wasn't really necessary. He wasn't the target. Also, the reason the faun didn't eat her the moment he saw her was probably because she was 11 years old, meaning she was just old enough to be on the cusp of puberty. Basically, she was at the age where you might stop believing in magic and fairy tales, and are no longer "innocent" enough for a pedophile/child-eater's tastes (much like Mercedes, a grown up character in the film who used to be an little girl who believed in "so many things"). Whether or not Ofelia was "still immortal" (ie still innocent and pure) was an important question to him, because that's exactly what he feeds on. It's why he put her through the tests.
To boost the age/puberty thing, I want to draw attention to this:>In the original draft of Del Toro's screenplay for the film, Ofelia was around eight years old, but after seeing Baqureo, who was 10 at the time of her audition, he realised that he had found his leading lady and rewrote some elements of the script to make the character's age match that of his new leading lady.https://www.hmv.com/video/pans-labyrinth-facts
What exactly would Del Toro need to rewrite in his story that would be fitting for an 8 year old, but wholly unfitting for an 11 year old (and Ofelia is canonically 11, according to this: https://hero.fandom.com/wiki/Ofelia
)? What's so meaningful about the difference of age in a story like this, if it's just meant to be an innocent (albeit dark) fantasy story about a little girl? I don't think anyone has ever really cared whether Alice from Alice in Wonderland is meant to be 8, 9, 10 or 11, so what was the importance in Pan's Labyrinth specifically? I've been turning it over in my mind. I know it's not the most powerful evidence, but it does make me wonder.
IMO, the faun (aka the Pale Man) was just making sure that Ofelia was exactly what he was searching for. In fact, it would've been a win for him either way, since if she was "impure" enough to stab her own baby brother, he could've just eaten him. The fact that she was too pure of heart to injure or kill him confirmed that she was what he wanted, and so her
innocent, pure blood was spilled by the end of the film. She
was eaten. And we're somehow supposed to consider this a "happy" ending because of what she sees after she dies. Supposedly, the reason it's like this is that Del Toro just thought this kind of a story would be "more interesting".
Bottom line, I believe Del Toro knows about the real life parallels to this tale, and he is not opposed to them. At least, that's the impression I'm getting from all that I'm learning.
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One more thing that just popped into my mind: As for why the faun doesn't just snatch the baby from Ofelia's arms and eat him, or why he doesn't eat both Ofelia and her brother, many pedophiles have a specific age of attraction. Infantophiles are attracted to full-on babies, while pedophiles typically prefer children aged 13 or younger, according to Wikipedia. I'm not saying a pedophile wouldn't
go for a defenseless baby, but they most definitely have their preferred targets.
Based on the paintings in his room (pic related - spoilered just in case), the Pale Man is overwhelmingly the latter. He seems to exclusively eat children old enough to walk and wear shoes. In fact, the Pale Man makes it a point to collect
their shoes. This is not new or an entirely original phenomena. Many killers save their victim
's belongings. In fact, the pedophilic child murderer Anatoly Slivko often collected children's shoes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anatoly_Slivko>Slivko typically retained the victim's shoes as a memento.
I read that the shoe thing in Pan's Labyrinth was actually meant to be a reference to concentration camps, but I'm hard-pressed believe that was the only thing being referenced with this particular addition, especially since one of the focal points in this context would be children
, not just any and all victims
. In film, almost nothing is a mistake or a mere coincidence. That's all I've got. Sorry if this was derailing, but it has to do with the Pedogate stuff, so I thought I'd elaborate.
Lower your voice anon
Anyway, Guillermo Del Toro also signed a petition for the release of child rapist Roman Polanski in 2009, and has voiced admiration for Woody Allen before. Two more arrows pointing exactly where Del Toro's loyalties lie. https://www.indiewire.com/2009/09/over-100-in-film-community-sign-polanski-petition-55821/ https://twitter.com/realgdt/status/708847097513021441
Is it actually yerself? There are a lot of smalltime Youtubers and artists who post here so…
I seem to have a natural aversion to symbolically pro-pedophilia stuff, like I avoided M Martinez for years, when I finally investigated it turns out the pedo pandering is off the charts. Del Toro is another one I avoided, who I have just discovered via your posts is another panderer.
Thats a statement you are assuming no one will actually watch.
The whole answer he gave was this.>Well, of course, … I could be on the other side or I could be the one from whom the thing is being taken away. But there was no sense that I shouldn’t be there, because that was — well, actually, in a funny way, it’s just like in the markets — that if I weren’t there — of course, I wasn’t doing it, but somebody else would — would — would be taking it away anyhow. And it was the — whether I was there or not, I was only a spectator, the property was being taken away. So the — I had no role in taking away that property. So I had no sense of guilt.“
He said the opposite of what you pundits claim.
so I posted this >>407773
in the mh thread but it got me thinking about a tinfoil of the gov trying to push for birthrate to rise by eliminating abortion, limiting bc and all that because they're planning the next war. I hear ww3 is coming over and over
there are people who say that the elites will hide underground and wait to profit from the war after
she said she wasn't and that some woman named Diana taught her how to do it. with the tarantula in her mouth, i mean.
the bury a friend video looks rapey as fuck with these leather gloved hands pulling her around and at one point around 1:15 you can interpret it as someone forcing this weird shell person to suck their cock, like, she's sixteen. why are they showing this, seriously? people will say oh, it was her idea but it's interscope, they are in the business of selling product, they're not letting some unknown sixteen year old girl run the show, they are modeling her behavior and her look..
so again, why use horrific or disgusting or violent imagery? is it important to elites that we be forced to see this stuff?
agreeing with >>408156
, when i was a teen i used to run a tumblr focused on gore and pictures of operations and such, the genre was very popular back in like 2012-2014, I just thought it looked pretty and sad. had her shit come out 7 years ago, probably even more teens would be stanning her, they tend to be drawn to the gross, morbid stuff, especially the weird, antisocial ones. who ever curates her image is just aware of this and pandering to the niche
Highly possible; Jonathan Davis’ wife died of an overdose last year while KoRn were getting ready for the 20th anniversary of Follow the Leader and Amy Lee’s younger brother died of an epileptic seizure during the Synthesis tour during that same year. Yet I’m still wondering why did they killed off Vinnie Paul…
However, the most blatant sacrifice I could think of is when Jennifer Hudson had her mom, brother (or cousin?) and young nephew murdered supposedly by the sister’s boyfriend before rising to the top and losing weight.
lina morgana? yeah that situation was sketchy af
lady gaga could literally have her own "conspiracy" thread tbh shes kinda scary
Yes! From hanging with that spirit-cooking lady to allegedly bathing in blood while in the uk after news broke out of some teenager being murdered…
Dang, I wouldn’t know where to start! Though I feel kinda bad as I used to be obsessed with her in the late 2000’s/early 2010’s but am glad I grew out of it.
The spirit cocking lady has photos with literally everyone in Hollywood
Voat has pics with her and kids
It doesn’t have to be healthy
The point is to have single mothers that create more troubled kids that are easier to ship to war/live in poverty
i think that the nuclear family is a meme created by the western governments, especially in america, in the mid 20th century to get more money out of families. a nuclear family really isnt that much better than a single parent tbh, its inherently unnatural and unhealthy.
i think its because a tight knit generational family is going spend less money buying houses, paying for childcare, etc than a nuclear family who will have to pay for a new house every generation and will end up having to pay someone for childcare when both parents have to work to pay off the ridiculous amounts of money. then theres also the elderly, and since they live alone and have no one to look after them, the families will have to pay someone to look after them too. its all just a way to milk people of even more money.
Yeah you're right. This is plain blood sacrifices right in front of us. All these celebrities and politicians of all parties are part of it too. I watched this one youtuber who brought up how so many celebrities cling onto charity work and church (hillsong) because after doing all demonic things they've done to get to where they are, they want to feel human with a soul again.>>412706
"it takes a village to raise a child" isn't just said just because. we're meant to be in communities
this is an interesting thought. my family, when they first came here, settled in an area where there were lots of other people from our ethnic background. it wasn't that we didn't want to integrate, but it was easier on the new immigrants to stay in a place where most if not all still spoke the old language, there were doctors who understood you, priests and churches that said mass in the old language regardless of the fact that the church wanted it said in english, there were older 'wise women' who acted as midwives/psychiatrists/family dispute mediators and lived in what were widely understood to be safehouses for women and children. i'm sure there were places for men to go also, it's more that not being a guy, i don't remember these people. but there was a place for everyone in the community. everyone had a role, even when very old. it could feel small sometimes, but most people liked this way of life so much that even after they learned to speak english, they either stayed in the neighborhood or moved just outside it.
anyhow i'm a bit of an oldfag, enough so that these people and structures were still in place when i was small. nothing was off limits because of it. if i wanted to play with friends i walked over, because there would be three or four young parents i knew on every street who would look out for you. in fact i remember that there was one block where this wasn't the case and i wouldn't walk down it because of that, i would go two streets over and then back down so that people could keep an eye on me. lots of gatherings and parties during holidays, and someone's always having a kid or a birthday or there's a religious festival, and the nice thing was that you always felt safe, no matter what.
my generation was the first to leave for good. i can't speak the language, the neighborhood is gone because the people who held it together are dead. in grade school we were taught that these neighborhoods were the old way, not modern, not in keeping with the health of the nation, that to self-actualize, to become true individuals it was better for us to leave. they also taught us a lot of other specious junk, and for the most part they did it all before we got to college.
i think in some ways, not all, but especially with regards to the mental health of people, the old ways were better. people were happier. they felt like they belonged. if someone didn't have enough, everyone got together and helped out. the village did raise the child. a lot of my 'good' clothes were hand me downs that were about ten to fifteen years out of fashion, but i was five, i didn't know or care.
the nuclear family and single parent households produced a lot of unhappy, lonely, anxious people. a lot of cool shit to buy and bells and whistles and apps to distract you from the fact that you're alone. so many women on anti-psychotics these days, it pisses me off, but that's a tangent i don't want to get on. anyhow.
i'm not much for conspiracy, but i'll say this. there are a lot of things that people will tell you, in school and outside it. a lot of what they tell you is good is not actually good but ultimately destructive for you, both as an actor in society and in private. it benefits the wealthy and the privileged. you are never the privileged. when you're told something is good, you should always ask 'who does this benefit.' most times it doesn't benefit the people or institutions they say they want to help. it benefits their bank account, or their ego. they see people as a means to an end. you should never let them think for you. i'm not talking about left or right or trad bullshit, either.
sorry this was a boomer ramble, guess i had some feelings on the matter.
TL;DR life was pretty good, even being poor, as long as you had a community around you to help out. these days, not so much.
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to be fair a few of the cakes ARE modeled after real people, including celebs
debbie harry probably paid a SHIT ton of money just to be able to ritualistically slice herself up at a dinner party in front of other fucked in the head elite weirdos
these rich people are paying to go to these events and have this psychotic kartrashian lookalike come to their parties and do weird shit
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A brazen,deadly gangster policeman professor and parroting puppet of the computer god was teaching a class on Franklin D. Roosevelt, a known Tsarina Fag.
"Before the class begins, you must get on your knees and worship The Worldwide Mad Deadly Communist Gangster Computer God and accept his lifelong Frankenstien radio controls!"
At this moment, a brave writer of unforgivable thruths and terrorized member of the master race who had typed over 1500 poorly worded rants and understood how CIA gangsters pump deadly poison nerve gas-smoke into secret compartments and lived in a low,deadly niggertown old house,stood up ALONE and held up a thick, strong homemade appeal brief.
"How long do people naturally live before they are dead or useless?"
The cackling, sneering, co-conspiring felon gangster parroting puppet officer professor laughed his mad giggle now,and smugly replied "70 years, you helpless and hopeless frankenstien slave."
"Wrong. People are subjected to worldwide systematic instant-plastic surgery butchery murder,inside a sealed computer god robotic operating cabinet"
The professor was visibly shaken, and dropped his nerve gas ball point pen and blurted many statements. He stormed out of the room crying those hangmanrope sneak Gangster playboy tears.
The students applauded and were all notarized as pummellers of niggers that day and converted to Astrocism,the true religion of the Slovene people.
A deadly touch tarantula spider named "MENACE TO GANGSTER GOVERNMENT" trajected around corners into the room and perched atop the American Flag and shed a tabin needle on the ticker tape. The worldwide open secret was read several times.
The professor lost his tenure and was put into Maximum Security Insanity Prison the next day. He died of the The worldwide completely controlled deadly degenerative climate and atmosphere and was lead into Frankenstein living-death eternal slavery.
MAKE COPIES FOR YOURSELF!
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/ot/ is a giant honeypot to collect all the IPs of TERFs…cuz a dream told me so
The rumors about Fred Durst came from the fact that he and Christina performed a duet at some award show, and his fans got pissed off because >we hate pop muzick you sold out bruhh!!1
and his response was som,ething along the line of "i hate pop music as much as you guys, but i did it for the nookie", referencing his song
not sure about carson daley
There’s too many double entendres here that there really is no truth or lie.
The entertainment industry is very shady so I just take things with a grain of salt.
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>Peter Bright, Ars Technica journalist, male feminist, troll, and frequent critic of gamers and other nerds as misogynist "pedos", has been arrested for attempting to have sex with a 7-year-old girl.https://twitter.com/mombot/status/1137153156243046400
This is already in the pinkpill thread, but the particular Tweet in pic related was too good not to share here.
Chatlog outing him/report: https://www.docdroid.net/UMNWMSx/bright.pdf#page=3
Someone in the comments pointed out how casually he talks about "teaching" kids ("Helping girls find those special places to touch, it's very rewarding", "Do you want the lessons to be heteronormative? Does [the Girl] eat flowers and [the Boy] suck snakes?"). It makes me wonder if this shit is considered "normal" in his circle.
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YouTube star in contact with that photographer went insane recently
She was groomed and the video shows her breakfown
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He made multiple posts about Pizzagate being fake.
I'm not saying that denying PG is some kind of pedo dogwhistle, but I used to personally know one guy who adamantly insisted it was all fake that turned out to be one himself. Also, when I was digging for information, I found some wiki for actual pedophiles
that decried the whole thing and had some bullshit line like "Children in the US are very well taken care of and rarely go missing".
I have a feeling that some of the people who deny it are just doing so in hopes that it'll go undetected and keep existing so they can join in one day (if they haven't already).
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I had planned to post this in the celeb thread but since he’s kinda… one of us, it was appropriate to be posted here.
Coincidental or not, this has to be some kind of sick joke - on Dave’s expense. It should be noted that the former singer of Kiko’s old band had recently died.
I hope he’s right that things will get better for him.
Are you thinking of Voat?
Here you go: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate
Here are my conspiracy theories about the music industry
I was thinking about the Telecommunciations Act of 1996 that was passed under Bill Clinton's presidency and how much this radically effected the US music industry in several ways
>Okay so this bill was passed to give corporations to buy out radio stations and have most if not all radio stations in the hands of 6 corporations, effectively making corporations decide which music and artists gets promoted and creating the playlist for the masses to consume; unlike in the past where the people chose. This damaged non backed by labels indie artists but especially African American artists and music genres, Ill get to this later
>The early and mid 90s music was seeing the revival of socially conscious and politically critical music that was absent from the mainstream of 80s music, similar to the music of the 60s and 70s, as soon as this bill got passed, teeny bopper shit like garbage boy bands and pedophiliac female pop stars with no substance or value got pushed down the masses throats and gangsta rap had an overdevelopment pushing out other black genres and cannablizing them
>This also affected billboard since radio owned the billboard as well as music labels, also musical artists since the mid nineties have increasingly become always in line with the agendas or messages the media or tptb are trying to push
>And boom; music industry sales go down because people cant choose anymore and businessmen are forcing you what to like and choosing the lowest risk artists for max profit and people know this and find it shit, even though this can be seen as early as the 2000s most people didnt start seeming to agree there was something spoiled in the water by the 2010s it seems. Dumbfuck corporations wont learn from their mistakes and switch to streaming which makes artists peanuts in comparision and engagement in award shows, touring acts post nineties; ect goes down
Why is this important? Because people listen to the music and get motivated by it, music is important, if the only messages being pushed out are shit then what does it do to peoples growing and influencing brains? And its not only music; its also other parts of society like this; being more controlled by corporations and businessmen that suck our soul and creativity and art out
Fuck this keyboard
The artists who get promoted and which songs get airplay did get really affected though which was my main focus
Youre right about the late Seventies but also the music industry has become too controlled and imbalanced
I legit saw some aliens once wbu what happened?????
I dont give a fuck if anyone believes me it was like they saw me see them and bailed.
it was three of these in the same-ish area of australia. I saw them in 2012. anyone got similar?? I was so poor I still had a nokia with no video capabilities and I regret it to this day I didn't film it
Apologies for longpost but:
You are absolutely correct that it hasn't been the same since 2012, and to a greater extent through the last election cycle. there was a definite psyop in motion through the Trump campaign. I believe it has something to do with NATO and Cambridge Analytica. Also people with links to the Trump campaign were writing articles in NATO strategy journals:https://www.stratcomcoe.org/jeff-giesea-its-time-embrace-memetic-warfare
There was also a link with Cambridge Analytica employees speaking at/attending NATO strategy meetings around the same time but I can't source that because the writeup I did on this is on my defunct blog and now gone (lol). I'm sure if you do some digging you can confirm what I'm talking about though.
I definitely think there was a concerted effort to manipulate and channel the 'truth movement' or 'conspiracy culture' or whatever you decide to call it.
The 'conspiracy culture' today is in a very bad way. There are still great researchers out there but they get no audience compared to the hucksters. It's all know-nothings selling bullshit to their know-nothing audience who now have a worldview to back up their lack of willingness to know anything. Qanon, a great majority of of the pizzagate stuff, Isaac Kappy, etc. Everything that gets real traction is fake as hell and it's obvious to anyone who have been in the game for more than a couple years and knew the term "deep state" before Fox News co-opted it to mean Obama-era bureaucrats. Some of the fakery is 'benign' moneygrubbing and misinformation, some is legit weaponized disinfo. Crazy times. If the truth is out there it's being buried in a load of absolute horse shit.
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Anyone else follow the drama between Sibel Edmonds/Newsbud and pretty much everyone who gave her exposure originally? Not sure if it's something you guys would be interested but figured I'd check.
Context: She was a former FBI translator and figure in the 9/11 truth movement. Also worked with a few other conspiracy research to expose what she called "Gladio B", a lot of which seemed to make a lot of sense and have some circumstantial evidence. She also is confirmed to be under several gag orders by the US government. Revealed she was a hack by randomly attacking Eva Bartlett and Vanessa Beeley, two independent journalists on the ground in Syria for no reason so far as I can tell aside from jealousy. Made a 75 minute video taking their tweets out of context and outright lying about things that their colleagues said about them. Also painted them as "violent" and "unprofessional" for swearing in emails and DMs, while swearing publicly all the time herself.
This caused everyone, including people who gave her exposure in the first place, to turn on her and leave her "news organization". My tinfoil is that she was some sort of intelligence agent from the start, she clearly had money and knew some stuff but also for awhile had a questionable source of income and was travelling all over the world which I consider a red flag. Was a huge Erdogan shill for awhile randomly which was out of character. All in all pretty sad because I considered her smart and at least relatively trustworthy prior to all the shit flinging.
People write off Pizzagate because they are told by the media, they are the authority.
You'll find a lot of links to the CIA and Israeli intelligence if you dig a little. Epsteins g/f's father was killed by being pushed over his yacht, afterwards it was found he was Israeli intelligence.
Look up George Nader for example, isn't it strange how a person arrested for so much child prostitution is still free and acting as the unofficial Washington liason?
Isn't it odd Epstein initially got off so easily in the same way?https://twitter.com/ROFLMAOLOL12/status/1148820202320044033
Came here after I saw the derailing in the celeb thread haha.
I wish we could scrap the term "pizzagate" honestly because of how much it has been tainted. It needs a new name. And not being one sided politically, it should not matter what party these people are affiliated with. What a coincidence all of them have some kind of connection. Scrap the whole pizza shop owner shit. Start new with connections to celebrities and politicians.
The media made a mockery of it just because of the name pizzagate and the pizza shop. They saw that opportunity and took it.
I like what was posted in the celeb thread about the guy who kept making "google jeffrey epstein" graffiti
Twitter didn't fully go down. If you were trying to use Twitter when it was having issues, you could still access the site, but no content would load. This is because they pushed an update to their backend that fucked up how their API loads profiles and user posts.
I'm not sure what instance you're referring to in regards to Facebook/Instagram going down, but recently Cloudflare pushed an update to their systems that caused CPU usage to spike heavily and cause their main and backup systems to run sluggishly and fail. You may have seen "bad gateway" errors popping up across multiple websites when this happened. That's because a shit ton of sites use Cloudflare, and they were all affected. While I'm not sure if Facebook and Instagram use Cloudflare, I'm pretty sure they use Amazon Web Services. A SHIT TON of sites use AWS to host their data, and if AWS has issues, then all the sites hosted through it will have problems. Same goes for Cloudflare, I just brought it up as an example as I'm more familiar with that fuck-up.
It's really not that deep. It's very easy to mess up when configuring web services, and it's even easier to fuck up when you're the one running a web service that hosts thousands of websites that millions of users access daily. One error and all of your customers' sites go down. That's just how IT is. Sorry if this seems OT, but I just felt like explaining why these things happen.
gotcha, thanks for explaining
i'm still concerned wrt the blackout on the same anniversary
Hah, no. They're vegan and vegetarian because they have personal chefs to make any dietary choice delicious on demand since they have the money to burn.
There's no excuse for celebrities to eat unhealthy unless they purposefully select not to be.
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He's a bad guy who's deluded himself into believing he's doing good. He'd sell your family and kill your dog if he thought it meant for the greater good or rationalize it away. A sociopath. A technology equivalent to a Zuckerberg but even the Zuck seems to have empathy for his own family.
Picture this: A small man grows up without power and increasingly diminished looks. By chance, he strikes rich in the 2000s technology boom and realizes he can create the "alpha" image he always saw himself as. He gets plastic surgery to look like what he thinks is alpha. He now has money and knows he can do whatever the fuck he wants. He will destroy reputations and people if he feels crossed, and knows that he can snuggle himself in his echo chamber of devoted fans to feel justified in doing so.
This is a dangerous man.
Nta but her name is Justine Wilson.
Let's call her that instead of the derivative "Musk`s ex-wife".
She's a contemporary fantasy author and TED talk speaker.
You might enjoy r/enoughmuskspam if you don't hate reddit.>>437437
there is literally nothing more beta than a straight man that has to tell his gf/wife that he is an aLfA cause he feels threatened by a woman lmfao.
I don't believe in the retarded social darwinism, but I can't help but laugh at the irony.
No dominant person needs to state that, that's just how they are!
Muskrat is a cunt and I hate his braindead fanboys circlejerking about ~real life tony stark uwu~
I did not know he had plastic surgery done, thought he started lifting and got a better haircut or something.
late to the party but aus anon here and I've also had a weird experience too.
I'm still not sure if what I saw was legit or not as I was stoned (but still functioning and everything like not fucked). I was walking back to my boyfriend's house with him one night at about 11pm after we'd been at his mate's house a couple of blocks down the street. He lived near the beach (about 700m down the street), so the direction we were walking was towards the ocean. As we neared the peak in the hill of the road, I saw these three lights in the sky, it was as if they were floating above the ocean and coming in towards us, hovering over the beach. They were changing colours too, like going from red to green to blue. I immediately shit myself (despite having boasted about being someone who would totez not be scared of aliens before this point) and tried to open the front gate to get inside away from these weird lights but I was shaking so much I couldn't open the gate lol. Personally that's the only sus thing that's happened to me (I was 18 at the time, 24 now and nothing since) but my parents have seen a huge 'flash' fly over them while they were camping on an island off the coast of Queensland a few years back. They described it as being like a camera flash flying off towards the pacific ocean.
Tbh I think there's a lot of weird UFO shit going on in Queensland at least, I watched that Australiens doco on netflix and it really spooked me out. Would recommend.
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Meme magic is real in the way that a collective of people who are tuned in a similar frequency can sense trends in the world that are about to break out like a hivemind of sorts.
Things like Alex Jones "gay frogs" were a manifestation of the phenomena of chan frequenters, aka pepe the FROG cultists, were being groomed to feel sexual attraction for "traps" and then to become a real "trap". That way the gay frogs thing become an actual realized prophecy because if was sensed and backed up by so many people.
What I'm trying to get at though is if a critical mass of focused anons is reached in whatever social platform you can at best create an oracle and at worst an alt-reality disaster generator.
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Found another Gaga/Marina pic on kiwi farms. Also Gaga, wtf are you doing with that kid???
Mock cannibalism/spirit-cooking gala
The naked chick is actually a cake and the blood is syrup.
Not to be edgy, but after what they did to Nanking, they had it coming. There's a reason why the unconditional surrender basically banned Japan from having a military.
A big chunk of people in Japan still deny that the rape of Nanking happened. They have statues of the generals who carried it out.
Personally, I'd rather be vaporized by a bomb than brutally raped and burned alive.
>>403724>why is Dave Mustaine allowed to live?
Or better question: why tf is Al Jourgensen
still alive when he’s been blatant about the deep state since the 90’s or even earlier than that?
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There will be a tower every 200m or so with overlappin signals. German govt. is willing to shell out 500 Billion for it when most of the country doesnt even have 4G. Glass/optic fiber and 4g is cheaper, easier to maintain and way less risky in terms of health hazards. There defenitly is a big push behind this. And dont even get me started on the possibilities of chinese espionage.
From what I have heard the countryside will not be "upgraded" with 5g. Like >>442146
said. 5G range is horrible and cant really penetrate so old stone houses might provide "protection". Otherwise buy a 4g phone with a low SAR rating. What makes me think is why israel refuses 5g (even though developed it= and is even sceptical of 4g. Wifi is banned at kindergardens
That just common sense and doesnt require a state wide shunning/ban>>442186
Who tf lets kids have phones in fucking kindergarden ?
dude this sounds like exactly what happened to me. I was living in south east QLD near the beach at the time. fucking wild.
Australiens?! fuck dude I am so getting amongst this sounds sick. legit from like, byron to brissy the whole east coast is poppin with these lil orbs. I described it to my friend after it happened and she pulled up all these videos for me.
Not to be weird, but this seems pretty Satan worship-y.https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/dead-body-parts-frankenstein-dismembered-phoenix-arizona-lab-stephen-gore-a9021786.html
>FBI agents have reportedly found buckets full of heads, arms and legs, as well as refrigerated heaps of male genitalia and different people’s body parts sewn together while working on a case concerning illegally trafficked body parts.
>The officers made the sickening discovery, described as a “horror story”, at a science lab in Arizona.
>The Biological Resource Centre in Phoenix – a body donation and tissue bank facility – is being sued by eight families.
>The lawsuit reportedly alleges: “Pools of human blood and bodily fluids were found on the floor of the freezer.” It said there were no identification tags to mark the corpses.
>One agent said he found a “cooler filled with male genitalia”, “a bucket of heads, arms and legs”, and says he saw “infected heads”.
>They also described the sight of a small woman’s decapitated head which had been sewn onto a large male torso “like Frankenstein” and hung up on a wall. The creation is reportedly referred to as a “morbid joke” in the lawsuit.
My only question is this: Why would they tamper with the bodies like that, if this was just a matter of buying and selling? Bodies definitely aren't cheap. Isn't that messing up the merchandise? And why would they hang something like that up on a wall? Shit just seems like a bizarre ritual.
The same BRC, lead by Gore (fitting name), is also linked to the US military:https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9624337/sons-outrage-as-us-army-ties-mums-body-to-chair-and-blows-it-up-after-he-donated-her-remains-to-medical-research/>Jim Stauffer, from Surprise, Arizona, thought his beloved mother’s remains would be used to study the effects of Alzheimer’s when she died five years ago.
>But instead 73-year-old Doris Stauffer’s cadaver was strapped into a chair on ‘some sort of apparatus’ and a bomb was let off beneath her.
>The records showed that BRC workers detached one of Doris Stauffer's hands for cremation. After sending those ashes back to her son, the company sold and shipped the rest of Stauffer's body – including her brain - to a taxpayer-funded research ‘blast testing’ project for the U.S. Army.
>Jim said: “There was actually wording on this paperwork about performing this stuff. “Performing these medical tests that may involve explosions, and we said no. We checked the ‘no’ box on all that.”
>BRC and military records show that at least 20 other bodies were also used in the blast experiments without permission of the donors or their relatives.
>The donated bodies were all sold to the military for £5,000 each.
I never knew about the second story but what the fuck? Isn't there fake cadavers for that kind of shit? Why would they want to use real ones? Especially for something as dumb as explosions?
I think places like these, plus funeral homes, are some places where some fucked up shit happens and just nobody looks or wants to look.
I'm a florist that does funeral arrangements so I sometimes hear about funeral gossip, and there is a funeral home where people who have seen their autopsy room has described it as looking like a horror movie, like blood everywhere. And nobody understands how the guy manages to get it so messy. And if that's just local gossip, I can only imagine what goes on in other places.
I just imagine people at a funeral mourning someone without knowing about the bloody room in the building where the person was embalmed.
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I had a psychotic episode a while back. (or I was dosed with high quantities of psychedelics by the elite for getting too close to the truth. you decide.) I had some really funny hallucinations
one of my hallucinations was that Tina Fey executed a Mean Girls themed lolcow raid during the Ides of March (march 15th) where everyone on every single thread was just being extremely nice and supportive to each other while also talking about various feminist theories lmao
also it was reveled in this hallucination the entire site was an elaborate social experiment designed by Tina Fey and every single cow was in on it
Electrical engineer here. It's complete and utter delusion if not an outright red herring to smear more legitimate conspiracies. There's a relatively small number of people who spend an absurd amount of time spreading it on social media, mostly to prop up the immensely profitable industry of selling snake oil like oregonite and "electricity conditioners" to believers.
Check out any 5G thread on 4chan. Most of them are made by one guy and it's gotten bad enough that there's pastebins full of links debunking him.
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Then why was the owner linked to NXIVM? See >>424969
NXIVM is/was also known for child trafficking, FWIW.
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Another piece of the puzzle
Same thing happened to the Ohio shooter.
A friend of mine works at the mortuary where he was sent to, he’s being cremated like the piece of shit he is. I so wish she could’ve seen his autopsy to appease my tinfoiling.
I’m mad he “heroed”, I was hoping he’d implicate more people.
>>446811>A friend of mine works at the mortuary where he was sent to
That is interesting. I thought cremation wasn't very popular with Jewish people. He didn't seem very religious though from what I've read.>>446817
I'm not that anon (I would never say gat), but "gat" is a term for gun.
It's hilarious that absolutely no one believes this was a case closed suicide. People on all sides of the political spectrum think it's fishy. Important documents were released the day before he died? Come on. And not to mention he was supposedly taken off suicide watch but you really have to wonder how dumb the person who made that decision could be to let such a high profile criminal have any sort of avenue to kill himself or be harmed.
And of course, now that people are suspicious, twitter is messing with trending tags and the news is warning people about conspiracy theorists. It's almost comical how blatant this is.
Even if he did actually commit suicide of his own volition, it's obvious someone let him.
I think the real conspiracy is that he did just commit suicide because he didn't want to die in prison and was a cowardly fucking child molester. He was spotted with marks on his neck a few days before he died and 15 minutes is plenty of time to die by hanging, especially if you've been practising like he obviously had been.
I think pedos are deeply selfish people who'll take the easy way out and he was a billionaire who had complete control over his life and felt like he could control many others, a person like that wouldn't want to be under the control of anyone else.
Just seems logical to me that he'd kill himself when he realized there was no other way out.
Everyone's gone full retard over it, though. The fact that the pro-Clintons think the Trumps did it and the pro-Trumps think the Clintons did it is enough for me to show that no one but Epstein did it for himself because he was an asshole.
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>>448173>I think the real conspiracy is that he did just commit suicide because he didn't want to die in prison
You are not fooling anyone C.I.A chan
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I know this is a pretty common tinfoil, but I definitely think there are some female celebs/athletes/models etc that are actually biological males and vice versa.
Pic is Gisele Bundchen standing next to "her" biological sister….
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Not being a flabby midget means you must be a man, got it.
This is why I don't trust shorties, they're always out there trying to prove that they're more feminine and overall "better women"…
Clean the sand out of your vagina, stretch. It's just a person on the internet being retarded, there's nothing wrong with your height or short girls being short.>>448626
Gisele is clearly a woman and has feminine features. Women come in all shapes and sizes. You don't have to like all of them but that's your problem to handle and they'll exist whether you approve of them or not.
I think Gisele is ugly with a hard face and a plain body but it isnt because shes tall, thin, athletic, and not super neotenous that shes a guy. For example I absolutely love, love Grace Jones who does more andro styling than Gisele and has a fitter body but I find her 100x more attractive than Gisele or the current crop of tall and thin celebrities. Its just a different star image really.
Sage for autistic rambling
Caps of her defending him? Link? Anything?
I Googled "Courtney Love defends Epstein" and nothing came up.
NTA, all I was able to find is:>The names listed in Epstein's "black book," first reported on by Gawker in 2015, are far-flung and include President Donald Trump, former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak, Ted Kennedy, Alec Baldwin, and Courtney Love.
She was definitely involved.
I think it’s not fair to assume that name in Epstein’s address books means automatically that you are part of the pedoring. I wouldn’t be suprised if Courtney Love is up to sketchy business but name in the book is not evidence.
All the rich and powerful are running in same circles.
Everyone in that book must be investigated but it’s not reasonable to mark every single person who has ever met Epstein pedophile
Didn’t he used to sell dick-enhancement pills! Top kek
Throwback from 1997
obama turned my frog gay with chemicals, a classic
swear to fuckin god Erik's conspiracy shitposting keeps me alive
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Halsey’s been indoctrinated
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Operation Flicker isn't news, but it's creepy to know.
Out of several people exposed to have subscribed to CP websites, at least
264 of them were found to be Pentagon workers. Nine of them "had “Top Secret” security clearances, which means these individuals had access to information that, if disclosed, could “reasonably be expected to cause exceptionally grave damage to national security” . A total of 76 individuals had “Secret” or higher clearances".
Only 10 of them were charged with anything.
A large chunk of the subscribers were not investigated for any government involvement, meaning the true number is still up in the air. Daily Mail reported eight NASA employees being caught in this same operation.
As for why this belongs here:>The Pentagon allowed at least 254 employees and contractors caught purchasing child pornography to go unpunished. Conspiracy theories thrive because governments lack transparency and often fail to meet their responsibilities, often through incompetence. Of course, powerful people also conspire to manipulate situations for their personal benefit.
>Decide for yourself which theory best fits Operation Flicker.
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I am usually very liberal but Desmond and Lactatia and all the stuff with drag kids and drag queens (some of which have been found out to be registered sex ofenders) reading to kids, trigger some intense anger and disgust in me and everything about it screams Pedo Satanic Illuminati agenda. It was supposed to be about the individual freedoms of consenting adults, wtf, this is not it.
I did read the link in its entirety actually, I just find the whole "a black eye is not a black eye but something to do with illuminatti if it's on a celeb/politician/economist" concept even more far fetched than the usual. there is legit disturbing shit that is probably real, like >>463141
, and then there's looking for signs in the most benign shit and the transpiracies ala >>448626
. Maybe someone should keep a tally of celeb colds, they are probably due to some ritual where they are forced to swallow a snake as a punishment you know. inb4 that' s a legit conspiracy
The men that were with him in the video where he looks drugged are sex offenders in the registry.
You don’t even have to dig deeper to find it most LGBT people I know actively talk against a LITERAL CHILD in a bar dancing for $$
The police doesn’t care both men in >>463241
have records and people tried to report it nothing happened that’s why >>463141
is more concerning the more you think about it
Who cares about weird paintings, that's Michael Alig the fucking party monster killer. Who takes their kid to be filmed eating candy on a couch with a well known murderer?
I don't believe the kid is drugged here, kids act weird all the time, but the way so many adults are using his childhood hobby as a vehicle for everything they can gain from it is disgusting. It's nice for the little boy that he gets to play dress up and learn stage skills and so he should have theater classes with other kids his age, not be out performing at raunchy nights alongside numbers about people hiding cocain in their assess.
You never know when a report is going to be the straw the breaks the pedo cammels back or might help put together a picture for a future prosecution against them.
This is why I hate this conspiracy theory shit beacuse it gets in the way of actual real crimes by making people think its hopeless and muddying the water with autism.
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In Wokeland, no one can hear kids scream.
There's got to be actual educators out there with degrees or certifications who can do this and be just as "fun" as letting the sex offender drag guy do it, right?
What the fuck is wrong with society where ordinary and qualified people cannot find employment but somehow this loud fucking criminal trash makes it out because they're flashy? Fuck this shit.
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Kids are under attack, every crazy agenda out there wants to hook them young
Onision was programmed during his detainment in Korea prior being allowed to return to the US where he would continue making videos and achieve “success”.
His mission is to cause discord, chaos and malice without no repercussions nor consequences. I believe is is being protected by YouTube/Google higher ups for this purpose to see how long they can ride whatever outcome.
There’s also photos even before he was “famous” where he hides or covers one of his eyes as well as dabbling with the occult, no matter how amateur he and his family were with practicing. He maybe is even telling the truth when he states that he has split/multiple personalities as way in the past (2002 or 2003) he revealed that “Onision” was one of said personalities. He also does not recall past tense memories (like the narc rage livestream about Billie) nor does he remember when he shot that video live.
There is also another possibility that he was being programmed before even signing up for the military as he admitted visiting multiple therapists on his mother’s behest and maybe while in juvie. His family has connections to the military and maybe freemasonry.
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It’s almost similar how Isaac Kappy’s death went down, and Etika’s body was found five days later, weren’t his an hero thoughts taken seriously beforehand?
Also, why would he need his equipment and a pair of clothes if he was gonna an hero? I think he was trying to get away from something but that “something” caught up and…finished the job.
Yes. One example of this is the way milk (and dairy itself) is/was shilled hard in the USA as an essential, healthy substance. It's really not, but the government needs people consuming it to slow down stockpiling because there's been an excess of it since the great depression.
Here's an article about that: https://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/07/us/07fat.html
Same goes for the early food pyramid that claimed grains, ie carbs, were the most essential part of a healthy diet even though it causes obesity. It was literally only made because the US produced way too much grains specifically to prove to the USSR that they had the better agriculture of the two.
One more recent, slightly more innocent example of this is shit like this article:https://edition.cnn.com/2017/06/14/health/fried-potatoes-early-death/index.html>Eating fried potatoes linked to higher risk of death, study says
Sounds reasonable enough, right? But then:>The study is observational, meaning the researchers simply tracked the behavior of a group of people and found an association between one behavior – eating fried potatoes – and another factor – early death. Because it is an observational study, Veronese and his co-authors note it cannot be said that eating fried potatoes directly causes an early mortality
They didn't do the research required to actually say the headline statement reliably. You might as well put out an article stating "Going outside and breathing air linked to higher risk of death, study says", then throw in something like "W-Well, we believe you might breathe in some secondhand smoke or other toxins, decreasing your health" to make the article seem less like bait.
This is what passes for "science", and it's what news publications gladly put out. Now, think to all the more serious things they may purposely be misleading the general public about.
Also, just for fun, here's a TED Talk on astroturfing. It discusses this phenomenon happening, but with things like medicine and drugs for the sake of profit.
I don't even know if I could call this tinfoil/conspiracy. It's just so blatant how often people are lied to and purposely mislead. I'm discussing the US in this post, but you can bet your ass it's a worldwide issue.
Anyone tho thinks cancers will ever have one or even just a few cures is too retarded to help.
Each type of cancer would need an individual cure because cancer is not a single disease. You think there’s a hundred thousand cures just stockpiled around while researchers loved ones die of those same cancers?
How embarrassing to think like that.
If it is sociology we are talking about, don't ever believe nothing they try to pass as "science" because it isn't. Sociology is opinion and propaganda with extra steps.
Science itself has become a buzzword to justify aanything and make people accept it at face value, "scientism " is the current religion. Sometimes the data is technically correct but doubt who is telling you , how he got the data and what conclusions that person is drawing from them.
I started reading about Lina Morgana and listening to her music, and I've sort of fallen into a rabbit hole. I don't really have anywhere else to dump my autism, so I'll do it here.
In her song, "My Angel", one of the lyrics is "The silent clouds tell me that something's wrong. They're moving towards me, and it won't be long. I try to run, but my body's frozen over". Kind of creepy. She also looks a lot like she's on something as she lip syncs her song in the video for it. A few commenters have said she had a dope addiction, but I don't know. It gets creepier, though.
As a reminder, she died by falling (or jumping) off the rooftop of a 10-story building. Here's an account of her death, from a news articlehttps://web.archive.org/web/20130710035426/http://voices.yahoo.com/the-mysterious-death-lina-morgana-cowriter-lady-6777676.html?cat=2>A woman believed to be in her 20s or 30s jumped from the roof of the Staten Island Hotel in Graniteville this morning. The woman – whose identity is currently unknown – was pronounced dead at Richmond University Medical Center in West Brighton, police said. No criminality is suspected.>Shocked witnesses said the emotionally disturbed woman appeared to be dancing or exercising on the roof of the 10-story building when she suddenly jumped off the front at about 11:20 a.m.
I want to bring attention to this: In the music video for her song, "Far Away" (>>412634), at the end, she stands at the rooftop of a building, laughing and smiling
, blowing bubbles, etc. Dark irony there.
Also, in one of the songs Lady Gaga wrote for Lina to sing, "Red Shoes", the lyrics go "Falling off of the world into the universe.
I could send a message back there, but would that be weird?".
Lina also had a sort of preview for a reality show (a docu-soap pitch) in 2005 (vid related), but it seems that it didn't get released. She was 16 at the time.
At 2:13, you can see famous producer Rob Fusari coaching and directing her. On MySpace, she was listed as being signed to Rob Fusari Productions, and says of record deals "Major labels have been courting me, but my gut is to wait for the right deal. I don't want to jump into bed with a stranger and in the morning roll over & say “what was I thinking?” But I am signed to a publishing deal with Sony Publishing which I’m happy about, I think?! Major labels have been courting me, but my gut is to wait for the right deal. I don't want to jump into bed with a stranger and in the morning roll over & say “what was I thinking?”
Something about Rob gives me uncomfortable, almost Dan Schneider vibes. I can't really back it up, it's just a greasy feeling, but I'm guessing I'm not alone, since other people have pointed out the same thing. He was the one who first introduced Lina to Lady Gaga. He continued to work with Gaga after Lina's death (apparently, they were also dating for a while), and produced/co-wrote a few tracks from her 2008 album, The Fame, most notably the song "Paparazzi". In the music video for "Paparazzi", Lady Gaga gets thrown off a balcony. A headline in a newspaper in the video reads "Lady No More Gaga" (obviously, "More Gaga" sounds like "Morgana").
At 3:58, Lina sings "I need some strong medicine" (ironic, considering her mannerisms in the video for "My Angel" and the drug addiction rumors), then "For your ulterior motive, it's just a matter of time" (no words needed), and then a snippet from the song "American Girl", "All she ever really wanted to be was the whipped cream on top of the American dream". The full song in the last one also has the lyrics "Long lost innocence", "Rage against the system, prescription drug victim
", "Her boyfriend's a stalker, he gets off on torture. But if she ever left him she'd be forced to nah, nah, no wait" and "All she ever wanted was for someone to love her. Someone she could love, but instead she got some perv in a tie and shirt breathing heavy on the phone from work, you jerk" (…Rob? The male listeners? Some other exec she's dealt with?).
At 4:41, she explains that she found out about the Arthurian character, Morgana (aka Morgan The Fey) from a book of paintings. Morgana is described as "Seductive, mischievous and powerful", and Lina says she was immediately inspired by her. She says "When I saw her name, I loved it. Right away, I was like "Mom, that's me. That's Morgana. That's what I want to be."", implying "Morgana" isn't her real last name. That makes sense, considering both her parents are Russian, and "Morgan" is a Welsh name.
Morgana (the character) is written to be capable of both flying and shapeshifting. A quote attributed to her by two magic-related sites and one comment on the video itself is "I end so that I may begin". I'm sure I don't have to explain why those details are eerie, given the rumors.
I don't know about any of this. It's just all so….weird. All these sad coincidences lining up.
As for whether or not Lady Gaga stole her persona, I don't feel like that's entirely the case. Lina's image and persona was obviously a pop-rock kind of thing. She seemed a lot like a dark, brunette parallel to Britney Spears. In fact, I think that was exactly the point for her. If she had blown up and gotten famous, that niche would've placed her something like where Avril Lavigne once was and where Billie Eilish is now (but for the early 2000s). While Britney exemplified the idealized, squeaky clean, all-American blond teen cheerleader, Lina reveled in the darker, uglier parts of American teen culture, singing about depression, drugs, and a boyfriend who gets off on torture. Both were sexualized as a sort of "jailbait" and clearly had aspects of their youth exploited, though.
Lady Gaga, on the other hand, started off more as a "hot mess" self-parody/campy pop act that later evolved into being more avant-garde and drag-inspired. She was also never marketed as a teen type, always a grown woman. There's definitely something
there that's a bit similar, but I can't pin it down very well, so I won't try.
Here's an interview with Lady Gaga, a bit early in her career (Pokerface/Just Dance era).
At 0:44, she's asked what an artist is.>"A liar. Artists tell lies. We tell lies, and we kill for them, to make them real."
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In 2009, Gaga put out the alter ego "Morgana
Devacelli". This is what she said about her:>“A boy ate her heart then ate her brain, and she doesn't have a soul anymore, just the body and the meat. That's why Morgana has a crow on her head.”https://ladygaga.fandom.com/wiki/Morgana_Devacellihttps://gagadaily.com/forums/topic/37655-morgana-is-one-of-the-gagas-alter-ego/
1. Morgan The Fey (aka the same "Morgana" Lina based her stage name on) is said to have a raven
as a familiar (not a crow, but another black bird): http://thefamiliars.blogspot.com/2010/03/morgan-le-fays-raven.html >Traditionally said to represent death itself, the black raven assisted the evil sorceress Morgan Le Fay in her conflicts with the Roundtable. Arthurian legend deems this dark witch and her villainous familiar enemies of the land.https://sacredwicca.com/goddess-morgana>Her animal form is the Raven and when she arises from her fairy mound she sings:>I have a secret that you shall learn.
>The grasses wave. The flowers glow golden.
>The Goddesses three, low like a kine.
>The Raven Morrigan herself is wild for blood.
2. Lina Morgana is said to have been in an abusive
relationship with a man named Tyler Francis Schwab. It's been theorized the song "Monster" from Gaga's album (TFM) may have been about Tyler.https://gagadaily.com/forums/topic/271277-was-monster-written-about-linas-abusive
-boyfriend/>" Lady Gaga wrote the song Monster about her "girlfriend'" Lina Morgana's boyfriend model, Tyler Francis Schwab, .. Lina always complained about him, abusive violent mentally unstable boyfriend Tyler, every time Lina tried to leave him, he threatened suicide. Tyler broke into her mother's Yana's house broke a door, Yana had him arrested, Lina begged her mom to drop the charges & she would leave him. Then Lina "allegedly" commits suicide , by jumping off a hotel across from her mom's nail salon? Who was Lina going to meet at that hotel. ? The police know there was a call earlier , between Lina and Tyler. Tyler told the police, Lina told him she was going to commit suicide. Shortly after Lina's death Tyler approached Lady Gaga, he wanted to write songs with her. She wouldn't give him the time of day, and wrote the song Monster. He wants to be famous. Yes this case needs to be reopened and solved. "
I just feel like things connect a little too well.
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Here is that same Tyler (or someone who claimed to be him) denying that Gaga had anything to do with Lina's death. https://twitter.com/tyler23j/status/223012832537616384?lang=en
Interesting that his bio reads "Lifes a play…. Act".
I totally believe Lady Gaga killed or sent someone to kill Morgana. They are way too connected for it to be just some coincidence. Lady Gaga always seemed off to me for some unknown reason, and this solidified it, along with her going to those spirit cooking dinners, having all those Satanic and illumanti shit in her videos and costumes. There's a lot of mystery and creepiness surrounding her and her career and her past.
Also, wasn't there that instance in, correct me if i'm wrong, some Netflix documentary of her concert tour where she and her team are backstage, and one of them mentions having to be careful as an artist because bad things can happen, and Gaga says something like "yeah, remember what happened to…you know?" and everyone starts getting nervous. I didn't watch it but I read about it when looking up the conspiracy of Gaga/Morgana
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Meanwhile, Lina's family claimed that they don't believe her death was a suicide (I found her real name already, but I'm not sure whether I should post it, since it could be the same as doxxing her mother). The https://linamorgana.com
website is down now, I got the cap from: https://twitter.com/allmenaintshit/status/864231164483186689
IMO, either she had her killed, as you said, or she did something to drive Lina to suicide.
I didn't know about the Netflix thing, that just makes everything even more suspicious if true.
A few years back, Lady Gaga was involved in a lawsuit involving Rob Fusari and Wendy Starland. She begged the court to seal certain documents, claiming that they were "sensitive, private, and personal".https://www.tmz.com/2013/07/07/lady-gaga-rob-fusari-lawsuit-wendy-starland/#ixzz2YOPsPgqN>Gaga claims that if the info went public, it would "inflict significant personal and professional harm upon" her. She also says that she and Fusari are legally bound to keep the information private as part of a non-disparagement agreement between the two.Gaga claims that if the info went public, it would "inflict significant personal and professional harm upon" her. She also says that she and Fusari are legally bound to keep the information private as part of a non-disparagement agreement between the two.
She succeeded in this. https://www.tmz.com/2013/08/05/lady-gaga-secrets-rob-fusari-wendy-starland-lawsuit-documents-sealed/>A NY judge has sided with Gaga and ordered the docs sealed, pointing out that both Gaga and Rob want the info under wraps. So it's pretty obvious … Wendy's the one with the damaging info.
>The judge made it clear – the information could definitely "seriously injure" Gaga.
If Fusari is involved, my first thought is that Lina Morgana is/was, as well, but I guess we'll never know for sure.
Also, building off my earlier suspicion of Fusari, Lady Gaga apparently filed a lawsuit against him.https://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2010/03/20/lady-gaga-responds-to-lawsuit/
She called him "predatory"
, and also said his contract with her was "financially abusive
" and an "unlawful arrangement". Knowing this, I'm inclined to think this man may have treated Lina the same way. If she actually committed suicide of her own accord, we can probably bet this man had something to do with it.
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Also, from the same Twitter post, someone pointed out these Lady Gaga lyrics, and I found someone commenting on them.https://gagadaily.com/forums/topic/81756-gaga-lina-morgana-and-rob-fusari-old-footage/?&page=4#comments>I don't want to be "one of those" people, but…>Lina jumped from a ten story building.>Not much, BUT. >The highway near The Staten Island Hotel on Richmond Ave. where Lina jumped? You take Exit 10 off of Dr Martin Luther King Expy to get there. >NOT saying Gaga did it, but she COULD be referencing the situation.
Additionally, in the song Gaga wrote and performed backup vocals for Lina in, "Wunderland" (last song they worked on together IIRC - and Lina didn't write any of it, according to Genius), Gaga whispers "I'll take you, I'll take you" repeatedly, and at the end of the song, there's a scream that gets cut off.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIRcCTYk0Q0https://genius.com/Lina-morgana-wundaland-lyrics
Here's a reddit post I saw talking about that part in the netflix documentary I mentioned:
"In the lady gaga documentary on netflix there is a part where she is talking about young singers in the industry who die. She is naming a few and then she starts crying and she looks at her manager and whispers "and you know who else im talking about right?" But never says her name. This would definitely fit in with that part of the doc."
Interesting how Gaga and her team are always trying to bury information about Lina like she never existed. I bet you it was them that took away her Wikipedia page. It just goes to show, never underestimate what people will do to achieve fame and fortune. This shit probably happens on a near daily basis in ways which will never reach the public
Yup, definitely makes sense. They went full damage control mode trying to make it all go away. I'm surprised there's still this much information left, even. I read that news publications were directly stopped from naming her as the victim
, which is why there's only that one article about an "unnamed woman" who died.
I wish there was some way to find out if she had any non-impact injuries or signs of a prior struggle/fight upon death, or if there were drugs in her system, but I imagine that kind of information is locked up tight for just these reasons. Everything surrounding her death is just so shady.
That doc scene sounds heartbreaking.
Here's a video where Rob Fusari talks about her (posthumously). He says "I wanted to work with her because I saw the darkness, and I'm attracted
to the darkness", and says something about it "overcoming" her. He mentions that they went out to get pizza, and on their way out of the pizza place, a stranger went after them and said "God sent me to tell you something". He told him to get away, but now he wishes he knew what the man had to say that day, and that Lina killed herself shortly after that.
The rabbit hole just keeps getting deeper…. I didn't even know there was this much information on Lina. I heard some people even say that Lina actually didn't exist in the first place and was just a hoax to boost Gaga's popularity and career. But that sounds so bizarre to me because how would accusations of murder help someone's career? Maybe THAT theory was planted by her team lol, who knows. I don't necessarily believe she was "sacrificed" but just Gaga was jealous and wanted to steal her style, but then again who knows what kind of things happen in the music industry, maybe blood sacrifices and the like are part of the process.
It's a fact that artists and actors lie and distort their past all the time to push a certain image of themselves and market themselves, like where they came from, how they started out, who helped them etc. And i just know that Gaga is one the most suspicious of them all
yeah i kinda believe that science discoveries and such are published in a way that's very easy and understandable for the public to digest, and they use this to their advantage to trick or lie or manipulate their information? I know that these kinds of scientific fields are guilty of using click-bait sort of titles and headlines too, to catch people's awareness about whatever, sometimes coincidentally lining up to whatever agenda or trend is going on at the time. Maybe they're also responsible for pushing moral panic sometimes, for whatever reason.
Personally i've a pretty skeptical person about almost everything, and i realised one day that the more power and influence an industry has, they can abuse this and say any shit they want, and it's their illusion of knowledge and intelligence that get people to fall for it, cause they probably think "well these guys know what they're talking about because they're professions, it's their job, we can trust them". This also applies to media and news and such. There's no doubt that this happens regularly imo
>>465472>raising a generation of kids that aren't as homophobic as the last
As if being gay means doing drag. Thats like having kids listen to gangsta rap so they don't grow up to be racists. You are not advocating for gay people , they are advocating for drag queens which is not something that should mix with children. Drag is a highly sexual minstrel show making fun of women performed in adult venues, its more problematic
that mainstream accepts it and is being shown to kids than the other way around.
Nayrt, but while I essentially agree with you I think scientists working for big companies have to censor their findings more than anyone. There's no doubt that Nestle knows a lot about nutrition but it's in their best interest to keep that knowledge inside of their company.
The stuff that actually gets published with a big corporation as a backer is going to be the "new study finds eating Kellogg's (tm) cereal is healthier than eating a sandwich" type of bullshit.
>>465581>The stuff that actually gets published with a big corporation as a backer is going to be the "new study finds eating Kellogg's (tm) cereal is healthier than eating a sandwich" type of bullshit.
Not gonna be much different from what is funded by political parties, governments and ongs
"Study finds trans women are actually more women than women"
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I can't be the only one a bit suspicious of her motivation and her backers, right? Nobody ascends to the national stage that swiftly without some serious money and influence behind.
Mass media are corporations that are controlled by something like 6 international conglomerates and hire according to a certain gauntlet that filters through people with the values they like. They're also based in large pop centers that tend to have a political bent to them and the culture enforces itself. If one media empire starts to push an agenda the rest will generally bandwagon if its congruent with their overall interest (globalism, for example, is good for giant international companies all the owners have stocks in). Also journalists will often have mailing lists across various outlets that are used to set an agenda on the lower level.
But in the end all that you need is a well funded pr campaign. If media people like the messaging they will pick it up. They're overwhelmingly centered between neolib and progressive so its not that hard.
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Greta: makes valid
and damning points that the UN agrees with. Her talking points include how there will be no future worth living and children are going to school to prepare for a future they will not have.
Anon: uhhh why isn’t she in school? This will end badly send her back to algebra.
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>Greta: makes valid and damning points that the UN agrees with.
Truly, she is indispensable regurgitating the 4 decades worth of slogans that happen to add a rationale for the UN's existence and the pay for the goodly people working there. Totes not a media prop. This is just a spontaneous grassroots movement of Greta maniacs swept up into a frenzy by her novel takes and sage maxims. And they all happen to be bean counters at places like the UN or EU or journos. This is all organic, go back to sleep, conspiracytard shit babies.
Right, I forget. The media is stacked for Big Oil and Big Coal and the messaging is anti-climate change 24/7. There's no political capital to be made at all from retarded climate tax and super national institution schemes. Not at all.
All these good bureaucrats are just fretting over our future, is all. Thats why almost all the carbon taxes aren't really dedicated to anything climate related and carbon-neutral energy source funding is restricted to the meme ones which won't cause push back from the nimbi exhippies who keep us from building modern nuclear. Oh sure, the transmission costs from wind ans solar coupled with space limitations means they're semi useless, but when saving the world its intentions that matter, not results.
>Lmao climate denialists
This is how I know you're mad.
Mad that someone profits from climate responsibility, not mad at all that corporations with massive profits causing extinctions of animal species.
Sure, you’re super mad about the financial aspect and not at all bitter about Greta being a teenage girl.
The analogue opposite was an argument for you a moment ago. Sort yourself out instead of trying to make me do it for you, will ya?>>465660
Greta will either get her shit fucked up or get rich. I wish her no ill, she's a tool of cynics and doctrinaires, not one herself.
Climate responsibility is something like thorium reactors, not pie in the sky bullshit about magically cutting emissions in deindustrialising developed countries, then pretending Asia is located on Mars or that good old Jinping wouldn't send a native-born Greta for a sight seeing trip to an organ harvesting facility.
You will never enforce this nonsense. If the bureaucrats that help push this had a cut-all-emissions button they'd throw it into a volcano, because the only non technological solution is depopulation of 90+% of humanity.
im with u!!!! posted in unpopular opinions about this… everything about this is sketchy… a quick look into her background and what ur saying adds up to me..
good on her for caring but her talking points imo arent much… any kid can say this stuff, but studying and promoting action like cleanups, etc. would be better bc i think striking only goes so far.. i dont deny climate change but i still like to hear from skeptics as i totally agree with u on this topic
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Another artist err…band that might need to be looked into is Metallica.
Recently, they have been considered as “the world’s biggest band” and are already up there with Queen and The (Rolling) Stones. Not only that, they also have been inducted into the RnRHoF 10 years prior (apparently from what people are saying, this is a high-level witch status) as well as being the leader of the “Big 4” of the LA/NY thrash metal scene from the 80’s.
Now, I’m sure they’ve worked super duper hard to get where they are today and rightfully deserve to count their fuck you money before our very eyes but what price did they have to pay; what sacrifices
were made in order to be at the very top?
Cliff Burton’s mysterious death comes to mind, so do the Chris Watts murders and Lars Ulrich’s fam’s connection to royalty dating back to WWII (apparently King Gustav of Sweden helped his Jewish side escape the nazis - I forgot where I’ve read this, gomen nasai).
It was also revealed that Q-Prime, their management of many, many years was making shady deals with Live Nation and fucked over the fans with high ticket prices so the band and some higher-up dude named Tony can “leave with their pockets filled) https://loudwire.com/metallica-rep-live-nation-scam/
Pick related: got this from godlike productions where they suspect what looks like James and Lars cleaning up the scene
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I know these are theoretical but isn't nuclear power kind of falling out fashion these days?
>magically cutting emissions
What's magic about it?
Also the rest of the world does not have to be like China. Just because we can't get them to play by our rules doesn't mean everyone in this battle should just up and quit.
>solution is depopulation of 90+% of humanity
This would be amazing though.
Anons arguments are basically why should anyone do it if China won’t, and someone I dislike will profit instead of Jeff bezos and nestle.
Literally the same as a room full of kids whining about who has to put away the stuff they all threw on the floor. They’ll bitch for twice as long as fixing it will take and then cry not fair at every solution.
Well yeah. Almost every kid in the world thinks highly of their poorly thought out opinions, but not every kid is related to millionaire actors/producers/politicians, etc. Girl was pretty much groomed to be a spokesperson from birth.
And speaking frank here, it's a really garbage strategy. When most people see that an uwu innocent autistic girl is being pushed to center stage they just resent the manipulation and start leaning the other way.
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She's a true case of astroturf. Her narrative of "a single kid skipping school can change the world uwu" was orchestrated by her parents and a NGO called We Don't Have Time that sells carbon bonds. Her mother wrote a book about the Thunberg family just before Greta started her strike where she explained Greta can see CO2 with her naked eye and that she almost starved from the anxiety this caused her.
This series of articles explains in more detail how Greta is being used to push a certain narrative (without denying at any point that climate change exists, just that it's being manipulated in a certain way to make capitalists earn more profit) http://www.wrongkindofgreen.org/2019/01/17/the-manufacturing-of-greta-thunberg-for-consent-the-political-economy-of-the-non-profit-industrial-complex/
That nuclear power is falling out of fashion is exactly why you know that few people are serious. We've had the technology to cut emissions to almost zero for several decades now, but it's really not about cutting emissions, it's about making money by controlling and taxing people.
As for China and India, if they don't follow suit - and seeing as how they're still centuries behind us on simple things like human rights it does look as if they won't - then whatever else the rest of the world does will be pointless. Like thinking that you can stop a moving train by putting a feather in front of it.
>I know these are theoretical
How are they theoretical? Elaborate. There were simple models done in the 70s, this isn't fusion (which is another thing that should get more funding, but nobody cares).
>but isn't nuclear power kind of falling out fashion these days?
Because of nimby hippies screeching at the governments, sure. That is why the developed world won't be carbon neutral within a decade and the streets aren't populated by electric vehicles. France has a fuck ton of nuclear plants that are not run by Soviets or placed on fault lines/in tsunami zones. You know what happened? Pretty much nothing. If they had twice as many likely twice the nothing would happen. Same goes for the rest of Europe outside of maybe Italy.
Why are you fucks not solving the problem if you care? Because this is just some social dance like a bunch of strutting flamingos and you don't actually care. There ya go.
>Also the rest of the world does not have to be like China. Just because we can't get them to play by our rules doesn't mean everyone in this battle should just up and quit.
Jesus, do you not understand? Global manufacturing base is moving into Asia, then it probably will move into Africa. It will move wherever, we live in a single planetary economy and single atmosphere. People consume, they will buy "made in ____" because they want the product, fuck Tibet, fuck the organ harvesting. You can't even twist their hand to actually solve the problem with nuclear but you think you can slash emission, which is just a proxy for global production by half? Even if you killed demand (you won't) you're going to force poor people to kill themselves economically by wiping their industrial base instead of trying to retool for other markets, with what army? Embargo them with US Navy and starve em out? You and Greta are gonna lead the charge?
And even after you did all the stuff you'll never actually do, then what? Half the emission will just take twice as long to get to the same point, did you even think about that???>>465709
You've obviously never given any of this any thought.
MUH GRETA DOE
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Have we talked about this yet?
People been knew for years now.
YouTube is not and has never been for kids. If only it still was 13+ to use YouTube, none of FTC and policy changes shit would happen.
>>465751>added government revenue
thats the gist of it, bureaucrats wanting more revenue.
>would just lead to more spending, more production, and ultimately more pollution
In the scenario that the money is actually spent and doesnt just go to "bonuses" for politicians or corporate subsidies that will be eaten up by upper management wage increases. At the end of the day is the worker and the little business being taxed and then suffering from the restriction on economic activity.
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Greta released a statement distancing herself from We Don't Have Time and insisting that she has no backers and no agenda and that she writes all of her own speeches. Yep.https://www.facebook.com/gretathunbergsweden/photos/a.733630957004727/767646850269804/?type=3&theater
this girl is so sketchy. its like everything about her was "designed", for a lack of a better word, to try to manipulate sympathy out of people, but its just painfully transparent. i think thats why there is such a prominent backlash against her, because everything she says and does seems to sound scripted and fake.
everything from the way she looks to the language in her speeches is to guilt and provoke imo, which really isnt going to do anything. she will just get attention for a while being provokative before being forgotten about. shes just another puppet used to make money.
also is anyone else disturbed by how young she looks for her age. as far as i know she is 16 but when i first saw a picture of her i legitimately thought she was around 11, maximum 13. i guess this is helpful for whoever is pulling the strings for whatever reason? i cant imagine a a 16 year old who actually looks 16 in her position.
now that u bring it up i do agree she looks super young for a 16 year old! honestly, that could be part of the mission to provoke guilt…
innocent looking child / has braids / speeches meant to shame everyone for destroying her dreams lol = u see a kid saying all this and u should probably feel worse as a result…
im glad to see many ppl echoing their skepticism and opinion on this bc i feel like if i mention any of it to ppl irl they would ditch me
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Right, and since when do 16-year-olds repeatedly refer to themselves as "children?" Everything about her campaign gives me serious Kony 2012 vibes.
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Desmond is amazing is autistic too, ummmm i am noticing a pattern here
I always thought any parents who let their kid use youtube unattended/on autoplay are nuts.
The article I read about these said that most of the views are from view-bots, to create artificial interest and push them to recommends. Pretty sick.
She's Swedish, a lot of Swedish people look significantly younger for their age.
Her Aspergers creating awkward mannerisms+the way she dresses+no makeup = looks 12 years old.
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Thats the thing, people do call, a LOT, and police and child protective services refuse to do anything. They just go "lol @ the haterz" and media spins the story to portray those people as nazi bigots for reporting literal child abuse and exploitation https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/laurenstrapagiel/desmond-is-amazing-child-drag-queenhttps://www.lgbtqnation.com/2019/03/haters-fail-calling-200-child-abuse-complaints-young-drag-performers-family/
>>465411>I know that these kinds of scientific fields are guilty of using click-bait sort of titles and headlines too, to catch people's awareness about whatever, sometimes coincidentally lining up to whatever agenda or trend is going on at the time.
Unless I'm misunderstanding your point, I think you're pointing at the wrong people. I wanted to be a research scientist at one point and still read papers when they're cited in the media. More often than not, the titles and abstracts of the papers are dry and specific, and likely not language accessible to your average joe. The problem with clickbait is coming from the media, including popular science media, not necessarily the scientists. There's definitely data fudging and bias and you can learn to read papers critically. And some things are more likely to get funding than others: follow the money. _But_, the people extrapolating shit from papers are, more often than not, writers for the general media or popular science who purposely overblow the research and don't expect laypeople to ask questions about methodology.
Science literacy is absolutely crucial in modern society or people are tricked into all kinds of shit.
It makes me concerned about the number of children in Warwickshire (sp) who are getting assaulted, since it was deemed important enough to add to lessons specifically in that county. Or if that is a trial county and they will be rolling it out everywhere.
There may also be issues of copied behavior in situations of overcrowded houses and porn-addicted parents. Maybe they are exposed to sexual behavior or see an adult jacking off and copy it. All of these things are issues to be dealt with, not normalized and added to lessons like it's an ordinary thing to happen.
However in my research, a parent can remove the child specifically from sex education classes only, so at least there is a choice. But I doubt many parents will know about this before it's too late. It's completely inappropriate for a strange adult to be talking to children about jacking off, that is textbook child-grooming behavior.
I agree, I played doctor with my neighbour and it was never sexual we were just interested to see the different parts. There was no sexual contact and it was a look don't touch situation and probably over in seconds followed by giggling then going out to play like normal.
I remember my friends younger sister had a streaking phase before she started playschool but again that had nothing to do with sexuality. Adults are fucking retarded thinking children need sex talk how about a course for adults about toning done the overtly sexual tones of every day life now and stop corrupting innocence.
I remember all the girls in my street weren't allowed to wear crop tops and we were taught about stranger danger. Now all that's for sale for children's clothes are mini versions of teenage outfits, everything is cropped and shitty material. And doing cute things for strangers to like online is normal.>>466102
I probably started a form of masterbating (just rubbing myself off stuff) just before hitting puberty. I learnt about sex from my older cousins and brother not directly but just listening to them and got exposed to porn early by a female older cousin. Think the first thing I ever saw was a photo of a golden shower on someone's front lawn. I think around 9 I had my school period talk and then at 11 we had a tame sex one, separating the sexes then at 14 we all came together and we had the condom demonstration on a banana again at 16. I remember one guy fainted lol
early masturbation anon, we had period talk at 12 which was way late for me as mine started when I was 9. didn't tell mom and she kinda found out on her own half a year later (just bled on tissue until then lol) as I didn't want her to treat me as an adult lol (had read too much fantasy shit where 1st period is sign of womanhood).
frankly I don't know how to make sex ed non depraved yet more informative and useful as I know I was let down severely and surely so have many others. then again I'm not an educational professional lol.
I think children should be taught about sex in the same way they're taught about how an apple grows or where puppies come from. A neutral, fact-based "here's how a you happens" kind of deal. Why would learning that "ruin the innocence" of a child?
Knowing about what it was and exactly who does it and why would've made me realise that it isn't OK for adults to do it to me.
I think keeping children ignorant about sex is keeping them ignorant about sexual abuse.
Sex education in a scientific manner as you describe is done in science class. This discussion is about new laws in the UK to make sex education (a separate, talking-based class) compulsory in schools for children aged 5 and up. 240 schools in Warwickshire have decided this means adults talking to toddlers about masturbation, for most of whom it will be completely irrelevant.
I don't think anyone objects to kids learning about the birds and the bees. Talking to small children about masturbation is a different thing entirely, and screams "paedo" to me. Other topics on the curriculum include pornography, cybersex/nude selfies and so on.
You're not a parent, are you? Children masturbate. It's normal. They need to be told to do it in private and it isn't a "bad" thing, just not something to do in the living room.
This is pretty basic human development.
I didn't fap until I was a teenager
But then again, my parents had a terrible sexual relationship and slept in different beds by that point so I was incredibly unaware and naive as to what a healthy sexual relationship was
kids already get taught that boys have wee wees and girls have coochies, so why would you even make it sexual when it doesn't apply to them at that age.
at this rate we will have toddler porn education seminars , any minute.
prude-chans aren't men anon.
i personally agree with everyone who's for teaching kids about sex/porn and the dangers of it. a childhood neighbor almost killed my trying to imitate something she saw in porn she found.
kids are not innocent pure beings, they're selfish tiny humans that can't understand other people.
I agree that there needs to be age-appropriate sex ed, but that it might need to be called something else with very young children to prevent parents getting upset. Stuff about personal boundaries and respecting yours and others is important to teach to children and creates a foundation for better sexual and relationship behavior when they get older. Stuff about masturbation might need to be just discussed if a parents notices a child doing it inappropriately, or said as "it's not nice to touch your private parts or someone else's with other people around" and "if an adult tries to touch you like x, run away and get help". If a child asks at a certain age what sex is, I think you should be frank about it but not overly explicit. If you suspect they've seen or are trying to find porn, you discuss it with them. With the internet now, children are exposed to more than just porno mags in the forest or skinemax clips and need better guidance and warning from their parents, because their peers will probably introduce them to porn by the time they're preteens. We hate thinking about sex and children because we don't see them as sexual beings, but they're intelligent and growing and will figure things out or act inappropriately if we don't help them mature. There are ways to do that appropriately without being exploitative.
blog: my parents taught me that the only person who could touch me there is a doctor and I probably got told not to touch my privates in front of other people because it's not polite. If you phrase something like "your wee comes from there, people will think you have dirty hands" it's pretty simple to explain without talking about sex.
I did "masturbate" at a very young age but didn't know that I was doing that, just that it felt good, and at some point must have realized it wasn't ok to do in front of others. So I seriously doubt people saying it's abnormal, children do it and often don't know it's sexual, it's accepted in child development literature. And some children are more sexually precocious than others. The sex ed I got in school was not enough and I ended up clueless until I sought out information myself. I'm lucky because I was a levelheaded individual and didn't really feel comfortable with porn, so I learned from sex ed resources aimed at young women and got the "right" information before I ever got into bed with anyone. Someone else may have not. It's important to meet kids where they're at and have open and age-appropriate discussions about sex so they don't get hurt.
What is wrong with you people? Ew.>>466517
Pedo-apologist radfem GTFO
Young boys CAN orgasm, they just don't release semen because they haven't reached puberty yet.>>466501> selfish tiny humans that can't understand other people
I really don't know what that has to do with anything. Not that it's true anyway. Kids just follow what they've seen without fully realising the consequences, it's not like they understand from the start what's wrong and right. That's why sex education can help, but of course that's now been ruined by fucking teaching little kids how to masturbate.
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the Titanic was sank on purpose to get rid of the most powerful individuals that were opposing the creation of the Federal Reserve
Did you know that J.P Morgan , who funded the building of the Titanic cancelled his trip on it at the last minute? In this boat were some of the wealthiest people on the world were traveling there were no Rothchilds or Rockefellers to be found, half of the required life boats, no flares.
Cui bono ladies.
The sinking of the Lusitania was also staged, it was a military vessel carrying ammunition and left unprotected in a war zone, they lied in the propaganda and used it to propel the USA into WWI.
THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE
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Daddy Het NOOOOO!!
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>tfw>Ellen Degenerate >>467962
I believe it, no spokesperson gets to that level without getting dirty and playing ball to some shady agenda, anything with that reach will have spooks all over it. Showbussiness gets dark, getting asked to suck a dick for a part is just the tip of the ice((berg))
Tyra Banks had her own daytime show and is the host of ANTM. Speaking of which, I wonder whatever happened to the models that do
make it? Because I don’t remember ever hearing from them again after they’ve won.
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Post a warning beforehand if you're going to be so cringe.
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>>468454>A couple woman's studies professors
The absolute state of humanities faculties
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If we are going to talk about predators can we discuss Jon of god?
He has human farms ffs.
I’m not saying this >>468455
isn’t important but … this dude was outed literally FARMING HUMANS.
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João Teixeira de Faria, known also as John of God, is a Brazilian claiming to be a medium and "psychic surgeon". He is based in Abadiânia, Brazil, where he runs the Casa de Dom Inácio de Loyola, a "spiritual healing center". In 2018 he became the subject of what prosecutors consider potentially the largest sexual-abuse scandal in Brazil.
Twelve women have alleged that Faria abused them. The case was widely reported in various media outlets in Brazil and around the world. The number of claims led to the Prosecution Office of the State of Goiás creating an e-mail address and phone line to receive all accusations towards the medium. In 30 hours, more than 200 complaints were received, from 9 different states, including two claims from outside of Brazil. Claims allege abuse of victims
as young as 14 years old, as well as a woman that revealed having being abused for three days. In December 11, four days after the "Conversa com Bial" show, the number of sexual abuse complaints against the medium had reached 206, in multiple Brazilian states, leading to Faria limiting his appointments at Casa Dom Inácio de Loyola.
On December 12, 2018, the public prosecutor of the Brazilian state of Goiás called for the arrest of Faria after allegations of sexual abuse. On December 16, 2018, João de Deus surrendered himself to the police near the city of Abadiânia, in the state of Goiás, Brazil. The number of sexual abuse accusations has reached 300.
His own daughter, Dalva Teixeira, 49, stands among the accusers and called him a “monster” and alleged she was beaten and raped by the medium until she ran away when she was 14 years old.
Now the activist, Sabrina Bittencourt, who laimed he operated a sick 'farming' operation which exported babies on the black market, has been found dead.
Here, John of God can be seen with Marina Abramović. This only reminds me of the picture on Allison Mack's Twitter. Mack was arrested in Brooklyn by the FBI on April 20, 2018, on charges of sex trafficking, sex trafficking conspiracy and forced labor conspiracy. According to prosecutors, after she recruited women to join the organization, she used tactics such as blackmail to force them into engaging in sexual activity with Keith Raniere against their wishes and enslaved them to do menial tasks, for which Raniere allegedly paid Mack. Mack is said to be second-in-command of NXIVM after Raniere.
Smallville Actress and Sex Slave Groomer Allison Mack has a photo of Marina Abramović.
Ironically it was the last photo she posted.
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“And you get a sex slave! And you get another one! Everyone gets a sex slave”
Oprah is still a supporter of this guy btw
Brazil has a major hard on for cults and wacky sects. I have no idea why even but they are shock full of every crazy magical sect and weird spiritual denomination there is and they get so much leeway, popularity, money and power there. Is the spirist capital of the world, there are like a million looney cristian denominations thriving with their biggest numbers, its neo-pagan and neo-african cult central, santeria central, all sorts of alien based religions. Brazil is a rabbithole, its wild. If you are a black wizard or a tinfoil alien guy or a spiritist in 2k19 Brazil is where is at.
She has been linked before to pedo rings and shady stuff right? pretty creppy
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CIA and hollywood pedo rings are so common knowledge by now that is barely entry level as far as conspiracies go. I don't believe it even counts a conspiracy anymore, its real, but the specifics and how deep it actually runs are still speculative.
Yes!, he lived there for a a few years before Guyana.
Its crazy, every time i start going into rabbitholes about occult organizations from all over the world it seems at some point they all go to Brazil and either set up headquarters there or have important chapters. For example thats were all the spiritists and theosofists went when their cults were dying down in Europe and muhrica, i think the second largest religious demographic is cristian spiritism.
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One of the leaked messages
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Movie daddy tried to redpill us about this before he died and all he got as thanks were mixed reviews.
"Be suspicious of people who crave power. Never, ever go near power. Don't become friends with anyone who has real power. It's dangerous." - Stanley Kubrick
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I met Kubrick's grandson. It was the strangest thing actually because I had the wiki page of this movie up on my laptop and was pondering on what you're discussing literal minutes before I happened to be introduced to him at college.
Tbh it actually made me not believe in any of the conspiracies since the guy was just the most normal person ever and shrugged off the idea that his granddad knew anything.
He was in a mildly successful heavy metal band he's second from the left.
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Read this book if you want to dig deeper
His grandad got suicided 3 days after releasing something.
As in he wasn’t part of them lol and k famously didn’t confide in his family but the people he worked with due to how long shooting takes
But congrats on meeting some metalhead with a famous family member lmao
Thats a cool story anon, i didn't even knew he had a grandson much less a metalhead one.
As for the other stuff i honestly would not expect him to be anything but normal. One thing does not correlate to the other.
I think the thing with eyes wide shut is that it doesn't actually go thaaat deep but was still very bold to put those things forward at the time, and Kubrick was not terribly specific and left a lot to the imagination, he also removed all the jewish references from the original book to make the adaptation, even the main characters were jewish to avoid the conversation going down that road. That there is collusion within the elites, secret societies and weird cults and sex magick and just perverted stuff going on behind close doors was "crazy conspiracist fodder" back then but is almost exoteric knowledge now after all those years of more stuff coming out, more people getting to know what the CIA was doing decades prior, all the blackmails, psy ops, the elite madames, the sects, scandals like Epstein and wikileaks. It would be amazing if Kubrick was alive today to see events like these unfolding.
>>469006>I think the thing with eyes wide shut is that it doesn't actually go thaaat deep
20 minutes to an hour of the movie was censored
If you watch the movie again the couple ends up sacrificing his daughter
Remember the scene in the movie with the costume store owner pimping out his daughter(played by a then 14-15 yr old actress)? It communicated to me that it was meant to be metaphorical of the corruption present in all levels in society rather than an accurate representation of exactly how they operate. It just so happened to be closer to the truth than many would admit.
Supposing that the world really is run by Satanic pedophiles it would also make sense for Kubrick to receive an invite into an inner circle after making Lolita. That would also fit the timeline given that shortly after he was chosen to work on 2001: A Space Odyssey. Ie, the alleged precursor to a possible moon landing hoax. Not that the actual moon landing was a hoax, they just wanted a backup plan.
Though I still don't want to believe he was ever one of them. I want to believe that Tom Cruise's character was more or less his self insert - the lower class outsider that's just kept in the vicinity for having useful ability. Especially considering his dad worked as a homeopathic doctor as well.
I have no clue either, i too want to believe he wasn't part of it because i admire his career so much or maybe the truth is in the middle, he was part of some of it only in so far as he could get his way on his career but he started wandering off too far by the end.
Nicole Kidman's own father died in misterious circunstances in 2004 after being accused of being part of an australian and international elite pedophile ring and fleeing to Singapore amidst allegations of this anons' book author >>468754
Speaking of Jim Jones, I've almost become convinced that the whole thing was a massive CIA set-up and social mind control experiment from the beginning. What do you guys think? Btw this is only a few information pieces I put here. The rabbit hole goes extremely deep.
>He told some of his neighbors that he was involved in the U.S. Office of Naval Intelligence. The U.S. embassy provided Jones with transportation, groceries, and a large home. Jones took everything he could from his followers, much of it in the form of welfare and social security checks, using blackmail, extortions, and any other available means. The local press reported about seven mysterious deaths of those who attempted to leave the "church" due to conflicts with Jones.
>Members of Jim Jones’ “church” were bound and gagged immediately after landing in Guyana. They were pumped with drugs, which were available in vast amounts at Jonestown, enough to drug 200,000 people for more than a year, like Quaaludes, Valium, morphine, Demerol, sodium pentathol (a truth serum), chloral hydrate (a hypnotic chemical agent), thallium (which confuses thinking), and, of course, cyanide. Jonestown residents lived in cramped quarters and ate small rations of often spoiled food. They were then forced to give 16 to 18 hours of slave labor per day. They were required to stay up all night listening to Jim Jones lectures. They endured physical torture, beatings, and public rape and humiliation. All of the drugs and environmental conditions forced upon Jonestown residents were also employed in the CIA’s notorious MKULTRA program, which was implemented to test and implement brainwashing and mind control techniques. A 1974 government report admitted that certain “target populations” were used, namely blacks, women, prisoners, the elderly, children, and inmates of psychiatric wards. The Center for the Study and Reduction of Violence drew guinea pigs from the “target populations” to test drugs, implants, and psychosurgery techniques at an isolated military missile base in California.
>Congressman Leo Ryan visited Jonestown on November 18, 1978 to investigate allegations of human rights abuses. Ryan, a noted CIA critic, suspected that Jonestown was a front for sinister covert activity. The State department offered Ryan no answers or assistance, despite numerous inquiries. Ryan soon was killed in Jonestown, along with four reporters. The assassins were described by witnesses as “glassy eyed,” “mechanically-walking zombies,” and “devoid of any emotion.”
>Besides the 913 dead, 167 survivors returned from the camp. All news reports concede that there were at least 1100 individuals at the camp (and most reports place the number at 1200.) Who are these 200 or more people unaccounted for? The survivors report that there was a special all-white group that was well-armed, well-treated and free to exit the compound. These guards were never accounted for by any news reports. Perhaps it is these same guards whom a congressional aide was referring to in an Associated Press quote which stated, “There are 120 white, brainwashed assassins out from Jonestown awaiting the trigger word to pick up their hit.” Of course, they may have had a little help. Over 300 U.S. Green Berets, trained for CIA covert assassinations, were in the area at the time.
>Michael Prokes, a Jones aide, held a press conference and stated that the CIA and FBI were withholding an audiotape of the massacre. He also stated that he was an FBI informant. Right after that, he went to the restroom… and never left. His death was proclaimed a “suicide.”
>As the massacre unfolded, Jones can be heard on a tape recording yelling, “Get Dwyer out of here!” Richard Dwyer was later found at the airstrip. When asked if the allegation was true, he replied, “No comment.” Dwyer wasn’t the only link to the CIA in Guyana. Besides those previously mentioned, U.S. ambassador John Burke and another official named Richard McCoy were both heavily involved with the intelligence community. Dan Webber, sent to Guyana after the massacre, was also with the CIA.
>In 1980, Joseph Holsinger received a paper entitled “The Penal Colony,” which explained that CIA MKULTRA operations did not terminate in 1973, as officially proclaimed, but instead continued in public hospitals, prisons, and religious cults which were used as fronts. Holsinger later stated at a San Francisco psychology forum on Jonestown that he believed the CIA worked with Jones to perform medical and mind control experiments at People’s Temple.
>Michael Meiers, author of “Was Jonestown a CIA Medical Experiment?” stated: “The Jonestown experiment was conceived by Dr. Layton, staffed by Dr. Layton and financed by Dr. Layton. It was as much his project as it was Jim Jones’s.” Layton was head of the Army’s Chemical Warfare Division.
>Only a few autopsies out of over 900 bodies from Jonestown were done, leading people to believe the government was covering something up. In October 1981, Jonestown survivors filed a $63 million lawsuit against Secretary of State Cyrus Vance and CIA director Stansfield Turner. The suit stated that the State Department and CIA conspired to "enhance the economic and political powers of James Warren Jones,", conducting "mind control and drug experimentation" there. The suit was dismissed.https://conspiracypage.wordpress.com/2007/10/24/jonestown/http://www.whale.to/b/jonestown1.htmlhttps://ratical.org/ratville/JFK/JohnJudge/Jonestown.htmlhttps://listverse.com/2017/12/03/10-things-that-dont-quite-add-up-about-the-jonestown-massacre/https://jonestown.sdsu.edu/Jonestown_com/CIA.htm
Dr Kidman got suicided after 3 days because a whistleblower outed him as a pedophile using kids for satanic rituals.
I wish I was kidding
i honestly believe this theres a ton of info online that shows even former followers believed something like that was going on
some former followers were even murdered suspiciously back in the states both before and after the actual mass murder
the marina abramovic kooky talk is one of the things that makes me think pizzagate is really silly. this aspect of it is just people who don't know anything about fine art, or performance art, or art in general - they also go after the louise bourgeois piece arch of hysteria piece as being another nail in the coffin of the podestas - and i'm just like what. art is sometimes disturbing and uncomfortable. it's not actually drawing rule 34 of your current obsession.
although i guess it could be, but yeah.
pizzagate is fun though because it's like this blanket theory that's an umbrella for all the other conspiracy theories in the history of ever. i mean, they fit JFK in there. it's wild and pretty funny to go down the rabbit hole.
I knew that Jonestown was part of a huge MK-Ultra experiment and have seen a couple of documentaries here and there but I didn’t even know half the shit here. And I thought most of the people were as loony as the others from Heaven’s Gate, boy was I wrong.
Thanks so much for the pieces of the puzzle, anon-san
You're welcome anon. Yes there's a LOT to uncover about Jonestown, which the media coincidentally always leaves out. They showed a documentary on it here in Australia and even I felt that there were a few missing pieces they were leaving out on purpose.
I forgot to mention that Jim Jones and his followers practised drinking and poisoning themselves at the nightly lectures he held in Jonestown, like they were preparing themselves. I think the reason people are suspicious that only a few autopsies were done (and all of them were botched) was to hide the fact that some of the people refused to swallow the Koolaid cyanide and were shot by military guards as a result. Very few of the bodies were sent back to their families too. And it would help to research Jones' background and family too and just how he managed to get his power. There's a lot I left out because I felt the post would be obnoxiously long lol
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Research more, Marina can be tied to Podesta , Nexium and Ghislaine Maxwell. The fact that she keeps showing up in cult and child trafficking related scandals as the John of God thing should be telling that she was linked for more than performance art.
I wish anon
Things will be like this
What was the purpose of Jim Jones an hero’ing himself? Did he really wanted to go down with his cult or was he just another disposable asset to the big boys?>>469322
Oh God I hope not…
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It’s always the kids, huh?
masturbation is actually a normal and healthy thing for prepubescent kids to do, some will, some won't. good parents will explain to them it ought to be done in private, that's why you never saw it in your youth. they don't sexualise it, it just feels nice. you projecting sexuality onto it is the weird thing.
it's a problem / indicative of sexual abuse when it becomes compulsive in nature or done at inappropriate times. you clearly haven't spent much time around kids.
before you come for me i was abused as a kid and did show abnormal masturbatory behaviour so i'm not shilling for paedos here or anything lmao.
Not totally sure to be honest. A lot of people believe that he didn't actually kill himself and managed to flee and has been helped with hiding ever since. Others say someone else killed him, maybe against his will? Sources contradict on whether he was supposed to join in on the suicide or escape.>>469386
I can't play the video. What happens in it?