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That couldn't be farther from the truth, tbh. Their homegrown otaku are where the money's at, and weeby westerners typically follow what's already popular to the Japanese fanbase.
The only director trying to appeal to the west primarily would be Shinichirō Watanabe (the guy behind Cowboy Bebop, Space Dandy and Samurai Champloo), and one of his more recent westaboo show attempts flopped, even though westerners liked it (Zankyou No Terror).
Most money comes from blu-ray and merch sales. Of course, mostly Japanese otaku buy those. It doesn't really matter whether show is popular overseas or not.>>369350
Not really, but I have noticed that crossdressing is on the rise.
yeah sure, onion was MK ULTRA'd into being a grooming piece of shit instead of being a product of crazy genes and bad upbringing like >>369511
It's impossible to treat you tinfoil guys seriously.
Yes and she also molested him in the guise of nude body massages, would praise him then verbally and physically abused him throughout his life, called out his name during a fuck session with her bf at the time (his name is also Greg), one of his stepdads made the kids chant, “I love you, Satan” to a tv channel containing nothing but static one night. Not to mention him being “possessed” by demons (or imaginary friends, really) and supposedly not remembering shit between the ages of 5 and 11 years old unless there was a cute little girl he “was in love with”.
Saged for the late reply, I was at work.
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>>369313>Pizzagate talk is welcome!>Pizzagate>2019
holy shit, this thread is a dumpster fire from the very start
take that shit back to /pol/
Have you ever read about it?
No? Then go away
CSA is rampant in the government and hollywood, i 100% believe pizzagate, i don't even see it as a conspiracy, it's an open secret at this point with #metoo and how quiet and weird everyone involved acts. we know sexual abuse is rampant in the film and music industry, why wouldn't they abuse kids too if those men have already proven that they have no soul? the lolita express is real and it's heavily implied that the girls that "work" on it do sexual acts. look at how many people working in the kids entertainment industry have been convicted of having CP or molestation and/or rape. look at how many politicians are shady and creepy around kids, like joe biden. lots of YT videos with proof right there.
sex trafficking happens everywhere, all the time, and kids are the most vulnerable. people who think that shit isn't real are ignorant as hell. kids are the easiest to manipulate and abuse, so of course assholes in the industry would do it, and men with power in government will abuse kids for power and control. child sex trafficking rings are real. what do you think happens to all the kids who go missing and are never found, not even dead? they're being trafficked. it's not hard to believe. people in hollywood who speak out get killed a lot for knowing too much, and for speaking too much.
anyone who says pizzagate is false has never, ever looked into it. it's so obvious if you read about it and look at all the dubious connections and language surrounding it (podesta, epstein). i don't believe in satanic ritual abuse or anything "satanic" because i firmly believe those rumors are used to make the general public believe it's a crazy conspiracy even more. it's child abuse and they have no souls, they like to hurt and manipulate vulnerable people, simple as that. anything debunking pizzagate makes no sense and overlooks the eerie imagery and language used by those involved.
everyone turning a blind eye to rampant CSA is dumb as hell. i think that drag kid is getting abused as well, look at the men (one who has been convicted of killing a man and buys pedophilic art) they have him hang around. ignoring the rampant pedophilia in society is retardation.
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>>370178>anyone who says pizzagate is false has never, ever looked into it>Have you ever read about it?
Why is this your assumption? I've consumed a lot of info about it, I'm just not an idiot like you guys. Or are you forgetting that the man who charged in to Comet Pizza with an AR-15 thinking he was going to save these children supposedly held captive in a pizza restaurant found nothing
? Even the owner of Pizzagate.com who played a huge role in the spread of info has denounced it and has changed the website (which was previously used as repository for all Pizzagate related info) to say it's fake. I'm not saying politics aren't fucked up and children aren't being abused, but your precious "Pizzagate" has been debunked a thousand times over.
….or have you just not read about it?
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Well said anon! Have you seen that crazy video of the child in the shower (you can only see thru a frosted glass door) while "skippy" berates, screams at, and shines lights to scare and confuse the child? It's fucking awful. Idk if it was ever confirmed (of course not) but the torturer sounds like Podesta. Take it for what you will. The video is incredibly disturbing. Or the one of the two children at home and their grandmother iirc dressing up as a witch and threatening and scaring the children?
Once you realize the true depravity of some people and the disregard they have for the sanctity (idk a better word) of children, it really seems plausible that csa is rampant and systematic. And those who participate are powerful and willing to snuff people out to keep the secret safe. I believe it's used as a form of blackmail and therefore power over other adults
I think there may be some truth to the ritual abuse of children and teens, but instead of satanism (fuck, who knows…) I think it's just a blood sport and majorrrrr tinfoil but I do believe they try to get adrenaline pumping in the victims in order to somehow consume blood and/or parts of the brain for vitality or some shit. Idk if I'm as gung-ho about that theory but really, why the fuck not at this point? I wouldn't be surprised to learn this shit has been going on for a very long time among human beings, specifically those with near-unlimited power and control.
That drag kid is fucked. Hanging out with convicted
murderers and pedophiles. His mom and dad should be locked tf up for that shit. Social media is cancer.
Preach anon, people don't want to look into it and when you do you feel sickened. Apparently only child sex rings can be masterminded by job bloggs, like the uncovered massive one in Birmingham. No, people working in high level position jobs clearly will never have the resources to extort and exploit people.
It's sad. They conflate so much nonsense with very real things uncovered to keep the status quo. It's very hard for the establishment to keep secrets with the Internet and spread of information and sites like wiki leaks. Easier to debunk the sources of the information as crazy than discuss the content being exposed.
Now you've got bought journalists by government administrations pushing false narratives in mainstream news networks while shitting on independent news sources, you know non biased information. It's interesting and scary.
The term Pizzagate is more than the Comet Pizza debacle. My understanding is that it's an umbrella term at this point for systematic sexual abuse of children and young people, orchestrated and carried out by powerful people.
The man who went in there with a gun is a fucking moron of course he didn't find anything.
What about the weird ass instagram posts with the babies and children with the pedo references? Tied to tables with tape? Creepy ass comments? The FBI cheese pizza/hotdog references and confirmed pedo symbology? What about the creepy troons they had performing at Comet talking about pedophilia?
>Even the owner of Pizzagate.com who played a huge role in the spread of info has denounced it and has changed the website (which was previously used as repository for all Pizzagate related info) to say it's fake
Well, yeah, I'm sure he's up to his eyes in lawsuits and threats. Seems like a logical progression in the timeline.
there's a difference between thinking pizzagate specifically was a dumb conspiracy and thinking that there isn't rampant and organised csa among people high up in politics (and any industry really). denying the levels of csa would be ridiculous, i don't know how anyone could. the bbc scandals in the uk were open secrets, people just didn't know exactly how deep the saville stuff went
if i wanted to really tinfoil about it, i'd say pizzagate was deliberately blown up because it was fake. if you can get people to either focus on a red herring or to think all accusations must also be fake, then it'll take any scrutiny away from real pedo rings
Sorry, here>The FBI cheese pizza/hotdog references and confirmed pedo symbology
I meant to say The cheese pizza/hotdog, spiral triangle "boy lover" FBI confirmed pedophile symbology. Just to be clear.
Also I think "Pizzagate" is a stupid name for all this but it it what it is…
This is the thing everyone seems to gloss over. There are declassified files about this, that code words were used for children. Young girls, young boys, there was a story about a fucking baby or something.
The guy that stormed the pizza shop did so after there had already been articles about the Instagram posts and who the owners where etc. A moron could have predicted what would happen. And it's this exact story most people use to debunk the whole conspiracy.
Watch your fucking mouth, anon
And your back too ;^)
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This bitch was seen in the Podesta emails and has close ties with celebrities like Gaga and the Kardashian’s. She’s over 70 yet looks way younger - I think she eats kids
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She's had a lot of work done. Most of the people who obsessed over this are men, and we all know how ignorant they are when it comes to grooming.
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Never forget (warning dead body)
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deleted the other pic because it was tiny and you couldn't see anything but her skin has that plastic surgery texture to it a lot of older women with facelifts have. Joan Collins for example. Kim Kardashian is starting to have it too.
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and here she is without flattering lighting and more or less looking her age.
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>>370188>Or are you forgetting that the man who charged in to Comet Pizza with an AR-15 thinking he was going to save these children supposedly held captive in a pizza restaurant found nothing?
Are we even sure that case was real? Even in theory, it sounds off>man walks in with gun out of nowhere, no security to stop him>no deaths, no injuries>only thing shot was a fucking computer
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Dumping Pizzagate stuff.
I think she's referencing Kiki.>>370236
I take solace in the fact that I'm not a serial poster or a major asshole to people, so if mods ever did some expose it would just be…some lonely chick posting an embarrassing story every now and then. And sometimes infighting. Not really milky, I'm a literal who.
I always hated the pretentious cunt for using self-harm as a gimmick for her bs art and being praised for it while plenty of people struggle with it. Not to mention the whole ~the artist is present uwu~ crap which is modern art cancer.
She seems like a shit person to me and the ~satanic~ leaks do not help. Fuck her and people that mindlessly ass kiss her for being ~strong independent female artist~.
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For anyone still questioning, here is a user from a pedo forum discussing pizza parlors being used specifically for such practices.
But Pizzagate is "impossible", "ridiculous" and "obviously fake", I guess.
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nta but if you don't believe pizzagate after reading this you're a confirmed dummy
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I’ve read that the Kardashian’s are witches who get with black men for their “life energy” or something and that Kris Jenner is the ring-leader but maybe that’s reaching too much?
maybe they're the real life inspiration for Get Out
I do think Hollywood bases movies on stuff thats happening irl sometimes because thats part of the "code"
Thanks for the dump. I’ll never sleep again.
Is Nickelodeon/Dan Schneider part of pizzagate speculation? Or is he a lone wolf? I mean, someone is using a LOT money for covering his tracks.
ive always suspected that some sick fucks arent liked by the bigger people in the industry/organization
those people are doing the same things but because they arent really well liked(or they break rules or dont obey the people above them on the totem pole), they're used as scapegoats and allowed to be fed to the wolves
i:e dan schneider and weinstein etc
Kevin Spacey comes to mind
Some say this video is a warning to the higher ups in Hollywood
itayrt, i think all prominent pedos are connected somehow, but i agree with >>370306
, there's probably blackmail on every single one of them and if a guy pisses off too many others, things get leaked and the other pedos dont care as much about him getting outed. i bet weinstein and schneider pissed off too many guys and that's why they were given the boot.
yep weird nonsensical humiliation like this could be a tactic as well
also corey feldman
even though he's an adult and has always had issues, i think there really is some truth in the higher ups allowing him to make himself look as crazy as possible because he's the main person coming out and saying how deep the cabal runs
i also believe they encourage underaged kids who are molested to become full blown drug addicts and most of them die from it before they are ever able to be willing to speak out about it
If you want me to be honest: it's too messy.
You know how here on lolcow we can generally follow the drama because there's caps from linked sources so we can at least have the context around when and where someone pulled the info from? Example:
When people exposed Onision in Tractorgate, we knew he had goofed. Because we had a satellite picture of his property, a video that a neighbor posted of him destroying the wetland that approximated with what we observed on the map picture, and then later public court records were capped from an official source to confirm he fucked up.
It was consistent and logical.
I have a problem following Pizzagate because…almost none of these images have context. It looks like someone opened MS Paint and made vague connections from picture to picture and then random caps. Whoever made these things expected people to believe it with no questions asked, or we're morons. Or how dare we not get it when to this day I've yet to see a succinct summary of what the fuck any of it is, probably because it would make someone's head spin if they were to actually write out what's pictured in these cockamamy graphics.
i think of all the ones that have died really young
brad renfro, dana plato, jonathan brandis, river phoenix, anissa jones, judy garland all those child actors from the original Our Gang/Little Rascals series, etc theres so many and almost all of them have the same rumors about them being molested/raped/abused
ive heard Jay North was one of the first kids they fucked with and he's still alive but I wouldnt be surprised at all if its true
It's a reference to the film "Get Out".>>370316>It looks like someone opened MS Paint and made vague connections from picture to picture and then random caps
Someone absolutely did do that. Pizzagaters are Alex Jones stans.
Conspiracies are always rooted in a half truth.
, it's been suggested by many forensic experts that Madeleine's parents are being dishonest about the events surrounding the disappearance of her daughter and many think it's plausible she was sold into sex slavery.
But a conspiracy theorist takes it a step further and then it becomes absurd–like linking this to Podesta.
Someone is supposed to take for granted that the images depicted are Podesta's home and the images are what he had in his house.
The picture with the statue trying to link it to Dahmer is also a strange reach (because it assumes Dahmer was being original, not that he himself was recreating a very common pose in modeling despite the macabre circumstance of why he was doing it).
Podesta is probably a creep (the half truth) but it's a stretch to think he was involved in the kidnapping of Madeleine.
Context is really important for a few of these images too.>https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/tony-and-john-podesta-match-madeleine-mccann-police-sketches/
To clarify I was talking about the entire screenshot, makes me sick that sites like that exist out there somewhere>>370332
The 70s were a brutal time, especially for kids. Reminds me of that gameshow where the grown ass adult man host would ask for kisses from little girls. ugh>photos of the boy who played Atreyu are being sold and traded online(even now)
What the fuck
i dont believe ANYONE who has fucked Harvey has wanted it
not even his wife
its literal prostitution except most actual prostitutes and escorts are at least guaranteed money or compensation of some sort if things go correctly
these women were giving up their pussy to him just for the CHANCE at making it and advancing in hollywood and thats terribly sad and heartbreaking to me
I think rita ora and january jones were probably weinstein casting couch girls. Maybe jlaw as well but i'm pretty sure she was underage when winter's bone was being filmed.>>370365>>370367
she was already well connected, I don't think she needed to fuck around to get places. That probably contributed to her romanticising it. Why would you sing coquettish songs about it otherwise?
Oh I KNOW that river phoenix turned to drugs to forget about the abuse. Not only from when he was raped when he was 3 years old in that cult, but you know he was also prey to those directors and hollywood big shots. He couldn't deal with the trauma.
There was also another actor he worked with (I think one of the boys from Stand By Me) who came out with a story that he was raped by one of the film makers on a set.
I like (most of) her music and retro-aesthetic but not so much as a person.
We had an anon stanning her on the last thread claiming she was just using satire and parodying the ddlg/Lolita lifestyle. k
She also tried to hex Donald Trump kek>>370371>”that’s why I don’t hang out with those “Hollywood people”, because they want to hurt me and my ideas.”
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She looked uncomfortable or dissociated with him
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Harvey with her on tour, why?
ah i thought they were in the same crowd, thanks for clearing that up anon
i know there have been other deaths allegedly tied to johnny depp/the viper room
one of the co-owners or something went missing
i dont remember his name but i can search later after work
God, I'm sorry you had to see something like that anon
I've had an experience or two seeing something that I really fucking should not have. Spoilering for incoming spergingI know there's a lot of "debate" over pedo/loli shit and the defense is usually "uuuhhhh they're just drawings" but like who genuinely likes that shit and thinks ah yes this grown ass adult thirsting after a kid is fine? Especially with Japan having a crazy obsession with youth. It's just fucked up that they can have doujins like that out in the open on display and no one says a thing.I unfortunately was on pixiv the other day looking through some art some depicting adult content(with consenting adults of course) but I had seen at the bottom section of the page, in the recommended, was a thumbnail(?) pic spliced in that looked like a straight up traced of an actual kid. (With someone just drawing a peen in) I feel nauseous just typing this but how the fuck is that allowed? Didn't want to click it, but if I did report it would it even be taken seriously? Saying it's just a drawing is the worst fucking cop out. I wouldn't be surprised if there was more shit like this out there, and IRL pedos use shit like this to groom kids and save it to their computers without worrying about getting arrested. It's all fucking sick>>369499>promoting Satan as a “not a bad guy!”
That's an interesting pull, don't think I've ever seen that pushed unless it was for a joke.
I think anime is created just to make people sick or sicker than they already are. But that's probably an obvious one
interesting enough im seeing about the pussycat dolls having a room there and one of the girls claimed last year that they were in a sex ring so theres another connection
i didnt know about that
You are correct but nobody will agree with you here because it's a tinfoil thread.>>370421
That is a huge red flag for me too. For normal people it's impossible not to be disgusted by the visible fetish. Anyone that responds well or neutrally to pedo art is someone you should stay the fuck away from.
I've been dumping most of the PG stuff, and I agree. A lot of people involved in exposing this shit are being deliberately dishonest. The political partisan shit is holding things back. Trump is part of it.https://mavenroundtable.io/theintellectualist/news/jeff-epstein-pleaded-the-fifth-when-asked-about-trump-socializing-with-minors-lodvGaqy50-lg5eP-OiNmg/>"I've known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy,'' Trump told New York magazine in a 2002 profile of Epstein written three years before Epstein began to be investigated. "He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it — Jeffrey enjoys his social life."
Also>Q: Have you ever had a personal relationship with Donald Trump?>A. What do you mean by "personal relationship," sir?>Q. Have you socialized with him?>A. Yes, sir.>Q. Yes?>A. Yes, sir.>Q. Have you ever socialized with Donald Trump in the presence of females under the age of 18?>A: Though I'd like to answer that question, at least today I'm going to have to assert my Fifth, Sixth, and 14th Amendment rights, sir.>>370335>Someone is supposed to take for granted that the images depicted are Podesta's home and the images are what he had in his house.
It is. http://washingtonlife.com/2015/06/05/inside-homes-private-viewing/https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/7aznh5/to_anyone_saying_tony_podestas_art_collection_and/
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>>370439>used a humiliating and vulnerable pose
How is the pose itself humiliating? It's only humiliating in Dahmer's case because he mutilated the body and unwillingly posed it like that.
That pose is common in figure drawing, yoga, and other statues.
Someone is emotionally manipulating you and making you read into a message that's not really there.
Interesting point. I stand corrected.
Who is the artist of Podesta's statue I wonder? I did a quick google search but came up with nothing
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I firmly believe that Jennifer Lawrence fucked her way up.
A while ago I kept wondering why she suddenly got so popular so fast, seeing as she's not that much of a beauty or incredibly talented. Then I came across all those youtube compilation of her kissing Harvey Weinstein's ass…
All the other actresses associated with him are way more distanced or at least seemed a tiny bit uncomfortable having to hug somebody as ugly as him, but she is not at all.
Meryl Streep, Matt Damon and some other older actors also seem very suspicious. For years they were supporting him and now they claim to have had no idea. How can you simply look away when young (often foreign) and desperate women are coerced into sleeping with disgusting old fucks?? Like how can somebody as big and popular as Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie claim to be "scared" of speaking out? They would have had the whole public backing them up, they could have done something. But after that whole MeToo thing a lot of people demanded answers, but now everything has calmed down and everybody just continues supporting them.
Nevermind, I found it. The piece is called "The Arch of Hysteria" by French-American artist Louise Bourgeois.
Her assistant, writer Jerry Gorovoy:>Louise had actually been in psychoanalysis from 1951 all the way up until the 1980s. At the beginning of psychoanalysis with Freud there was a lot of interest in the hysterical woman who would have these contortions where the body would arch up in the air. Men did it too. But Louise always thought the psychoanalysts liked to see the women.>I mean they couldn’t figure out because there was no physical reason for this kind of bodily reaction. They thought it had to be some sort of mental trauma, whether it was repressed memories or connected to psycho-sexual repression. Louise's work is to a certain degree the same thing. It’s psychological and emotional things manifesting in the body that she then transforms into sculpture.>The hanging arch figure is actually a cast of my body. Louise had me lie down on a curved mound to get this shape, and then the body was in a plaster mold, which she then cut up to make this curve.>To Louise the state of hanging was this idea of fragility, because it meant that the body could turn, it could pivot, it could spin, so it wasn't a stable kind of thing. Louise wanted this figure to have a high polish so that the viewer’s face is caught inside the body of this contorted figure. So it brings the viewer into the picture.
Sorry for deleting and reposting a million times. Posting from an old ass tablet rn
>>370253>vagina area focus
Sexualizing cannibalism and it's so fucking disturbing. Sick. I've seen a couple of pictures of that same artist with lady gaga at another event where there was another naked woman cake they were eating from.>>370286
I read a small conspiracy that said the illuminati/elite/however they call themselves will destroy the democrats and take full control of the republicans to promote their version of "family" values ie cannibalism and pedophilia. And everyone, all the democrats and republicans, are in on it because they all follow each other and are actually friends.
even now you can't bring up how trump supported and is friends with the clintons. It'll get blown over. It's like people are programmed to be more and more extreme until they have to be told what to do by their
>>370253>vagina area focus
Sexualizing cannibalism and it's so fucking disturbing. Sick. I've seen a couple of pictures of that same artist with lady gaga at another event where there was another naked woman cake they were eating from.>>370286
I read a small conspiracy that said the illuminati/elite/however they call themselves will destroy the democrats and take full control of the republicans to promote their version of "family" values ie cannibalism and pedophilia. And everyone, all the democrats and republicans, are in on it because they all follow each other and are actually friends.
even now you can't bring up how trump supported and is friends with the clintons. It'll get blown over. It's like people are programmed to be more and more extreme until they have to be told what to do by their
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The majority of Japanese aren't Christians, to many of them Christianity is like a living mythology. There are very few depictions of Christianity or Christian iconography that are used 'accurately' in anime because they either don't know better or don't care.>>370500
Oprah is a dingus but I'm not gonna fault her for not personally keeping an eye on the school.
My favorite conspiracy is anything to do with reptilians. Funny as fuck.https://www.businessinsider.com.au/what-its-like-to-believe-youre-controlled-by-reptilians-2013-11
I don’t believe Chester Bennington is the son of John Podesta (ew wtf?) but I do believe that he, Chris Cornell and Paul Walker were tryng to expose the pedo-rings which is why they were suicided.
Also, it is believed that CPS is intentionally targeting children from “broken homes” as delivery for the elite sick fucks for higher pay. Since Bill Clinton signed an act that CPS workers get paid for every child they “save”. A former senator from Georgia tried to expose it which costed her job and well, her life.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nancy_Schaefer
Here’s the article she published before she got killed: http://www.nccr.info/attachments/600_The%20Corrupt%20Business%20Of%20Child%20Protective%20Services.pdf
Love this thread! Came here to see if pizzagate was actually being discussed and wasn't disappointed.
I'm really mad about it, I was deep into reading it at the time, and I feel like people were really
onto something big. But it kept getting messy relating everything to everything else and with no proof, the pizza shop, and madeiline mccann. I believe they were all more isolated and all led somewhere, but maybe not exactly connected. And if they were it was too far of a reach to prove with evidence that they were indeed connected.
This kind of stuff >>370253
was weird AS FUCK like it's impossible that there was nothing that could have come out of the whole thing.
And of course the media only cherry picked the pizza shop story and ran with it and made it look like a joke.
Once the priests in Pennsylvania were uncovered to mostly be pedophiles, made me think about pizzagate again. If so many priests have rings like that, how is it hard to believe that politicians and celebrities do, too?
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Those caravans are funded by George Soros, who also funds the BLM.>>370582
Yes. There are idiots who believe this shit. (Pic related)
Eh. Plenty of people called Michelle a man while her husband was in office. And they’re still around. Not to say that the Obamas haven’t done anything sketchy but even the thinnest skinned politicians doesn’t go after someone who mocks their personal appearance. Even Trump, as stupid and narcissistic as he is, doesn’t secretly murder someone for making fun of him being fat and having a toupee. These people have bigger shit to worry about.
Besides, Joan Rivers was old as fuck and got tons of procedures, especially in her later years. The way she died was inevitable.
there were huge threads on chris cornell being suicided on lipstick alley but they all got deleted or hidden and im not a member so i cant see them anymore
but they still have a huge fan thread dedicated to him and mention stuff there i think
they also arent very fond of his or chesters wives(exes?) and mention that they are involved in some way
He was her handler (a fancy name for an elite tard-wrangler) at the time. Handlers are known to trigger
their victims into submission.
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Maybe that sculpture also refers to pic related?
It's from the work of Jean-Martin Charcot, a French neurologist and a sick fuck who used hypnotism and masturbation to treat "hysteria".
The amount of shit I found late in the pregnancy and after the fact is unbelievable. So many parts of my body are now permanently altered, so many life threatening risks that I went through. Sure am glad doctors were transparent with me and that I didn’t accidentally stumble across it while googling and it stressed me the fuck out while heavily pregnant which can cause further complications!!
Also, nitpick, but even fucking midwives will speak to the male partner and be more concerned about their health and general well being than yours. And these are women in a field entirely about caring for women. Go fucking figure.
>>370813>I think they want us to reproduce but only reproduce stupid people to keep the elites at the top and never questioned.
Idiocracy, and there's plenty of reason to believe it's true.
Uneducated and impulsive people get knocked up young and decide to have children. They automatically limit their upward economic and educational mobility because they have to take on low-income jobs and shovel every last dime to their family. There's no time. They never question the status quo and love welfare because they're dependent on every last dollar.
pregnancy and childbirth is honestly so repulsive to me and my brain cant handle the idea that it still exists and they havent found a way around it in 2019
surely they developed a cure by now..LMAO
getting married to some guy and having kids is such a meme.
power to women who make that decision, but the only reason so many groups of people have such vitriolic hatred for independant career women is because it's the best lifestyle you can choose imo. they don't want women to be self-sustaining and even try to convince us that we can't be, because they make more money off of the alternative. i cringe at all the ads where they push some "uwu bayyybeeez" emotional bs because all i see is "make us more consumers so we can make money!!"
yea, river phoenix was in the same cult i was in. i can only imagine the sick things that
happened to him.
How fucking stupid are you? Do you know how many elderly parents die alone from falls or injuries? Do you know how many of them are lonely, dealing with mental illness alone?
In the west, children view their parents as tools for resources and money. Once they are unable to provide that to them, children generally have fuck all to do with their parents.
Children of God/Family international
Not only did they made kids have sex with each other but also with adults. The cult would also have choir singing for the Clinton’s (and the Bush’s?) at the White House
Can you elaborate on your experience with the cult or is it too traumatic for you to speak of at this time?
If that’s the case, we understand.
What is your take on the “13 bloodlines”? Seems legit or nah?
One fam had a u.s president, another started the jehova’s witnesses religion and not all families are European one of them was probably mentioned in a Cardcaptor Sakura movie.https://m.ranker.com/list/main-families-of-illuminati/mike-rothschildhttps://www.cia.gov/library/abbottabad-compound/FC/FC2F5371043C48FDD95AEDE7B8A49624_Springmeier.-.Bloodlines.of.the.Illuminati.R.pdf
where are the actual sources for any of this? even in the book the author admits at one point >"In terms of research … from a scale from 0 to 100, I’m about at 10."
also it's interesting how ten of the thirteen families that supposedly control the WORLD just happen to be American. like only one asian family? really? I find it all very hard to believe.
I've been looking into bloodlines and how the people of the bible seem to be referring to blood lines and different families of people.
Sure all royalty are royal because they're believed to be ordained by God and that's why royal blood is so special. >>371869
Sure the current United States of America is a mixing pot of different cultures and ethnicities. All people are mixed and hybridised except for the extremely isolated people that are protected (like islanders etc).
There's a lot of historical context is holy scriptures and with modern science we are able to date and analyse samples for information. Ancient DNA can be synthesised and replicated to find biomarkers.
Funny that today's modern wars are still in the Holy lands and holy relics are constantly targeted before researchers are allowed access. And guess who controls all research in Israel
Nice and simple.
But seriously, I think this is something a lot of people, even people who are soft core nonbelievers (just go along to get along types even though they doubt), are afraid to admit.
I remember I had an art history class years ago where our final exam was based on Kubrick’s 2001. And the interview he gave to Playboy about the possibility of alien intervention in human evolution was eerie in a way because of how he described these sort of pure spirit energies.
I wonder sometimes if humans were confronted with this kind of reality, if religion would no longer be such a crutch (seemingly) in our interpersonal development.
So many wars, so much unnecessary judgment and fear surrounds this idea of the Abrahamic god. I wonder sometimes where we would be spiritually in the West if so much of our morality, ethics, and opinions about others didn’t hinge on this idea of everything revolving around god.
Here’s the interview for anyone interested -http://genius.cat-v.org/stanley-kubrick/interviews/playboy-1968
religious people are preparing for an alien invasion believe it or not
they believe aliens are demons and that an invasion will be part of the fight of armageddon
ive been interested in this for awhile and like to snoop around forums of various denominations, and ive seen it mentioned by catholics, baptists, muslims, etc
Samefagging but the link isn’t complete damn it.
I can’t find the original but I think this is another proper transcription which gives everything he said.https://scrapsfromtheloft.com/2016/10/02/playboy-interview-stanley-kubrick/
Anon I enjoy doing the same thing.
I remember that from my Christian teen years when I used to hang out on religious message boards a lot.
So much of religion, especially Christianity and her sisters, seems to rest on this idea that humans are the center of all existence, which seems silly considering how big the universe is. If we were confronted with another type of life form, physical or not, I wonder where it would take us.
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maybe not a tinfoil but i feel like ill get boolied here less lol, marriage is a scam and the government only pushes getting married and having kids so they make money off of more consumers. in my experience people think you're crazy if you express dislike towards the idea of getting married and reproducing so i think everyone has been brainwashed by media/ads on this picture-perfect disingenuous idea of being someone's partner/parent because of its pathos
This is exactly it, which is why the MGTOWs and incels cry so much about roasties taking their money and the kids.
They'd love it if they could all do what men try and do now: Live with you for a decade, then leave you after wasting most of your youth with him while he goes and gets a younger model.
If you're married you will at least get some money in the divorce as compensation for being abandoned and becoming the dreaded "single mother". A woman loses a ton of status if she geta divorced or leaves a long term relationship. A man gets to be the handsome bachelor forever.
Divorce means we don't end up with nothing, or destitute on the street when he gets bored with us. So you wanna be the cool girl who's anti-marriage? Use me up and leave me with nothing, guys! Being cool is more important than avoiding being destitute on the street!
Source: Divorced parents, father still bitter decades later that we're still alive, has not given us any money for over a decade but he literally wanted us homeless on the street and we survived thanks to the courts being fair on my mother back then.
Additional source: All the guys I've met who had live-in girlfriends for 6-10 years and then suddenly dropped them for flings or short term relationships with younger, sexier women.
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No, you're 100% correct. Everything negative about motherhood, marriage and childbirth is completely hidden or minimized in order to get women to continue having children with men.
I mean for gods sake, just read any confession on "Scary Mommy Confessions" to see how many women were lied to about motherhood.
We've been having children and being mothers for so long, yet we've never been able to express any negative opinions about it without fear of social exile.
I think mothering has probably gotten harder. People don't live in close knit communities anymore, don't live near family, since they don't have a giant passel of kids they don't get much help from the older kids with the younger ones, and domestic service was more common and affordable. Employment wasn't as centralized outside of the home and laxer zoning regulations meant it was easier to run businesses from the household so parents weren't as cut up by costs for daycare and they could socialize with adults throughout the day. Children spent more time playing outside, children started working and contributing to household expenses much earlier, etc. There's a lot going on but overall the expectation of motherhood now is a much more cloistered one where a lone mother spends her day with her kids. My mom was an immigrant and could tell you the difference in parenting between both nations first hand and found American style parenting very socially isolating and difficult.
I've inadvertently ended up in a job where I work with children and its practically an expectation that mothers be joined at the hip with their kids now. Its an overly sentimental vision of motherhood championed by conservatives and liberals alike and I don't think its healthy. Women end up smothering their children and personal identity and everyone thinks this is good.
Reading this is sad for everyone. You have exhausted moms tired of being moms and kids that need them.
I agree>>373162 You need more than mom and dad to raise kids. To raise them requires a community or family nearby. But that isn't favorable or promoted
Does anyone think that the world is actually overpopulated or do you think that that
is a theory in itself to prevent too many people from being born so it'll be easier to conquer the world? Elite population control is such a creepy and terrifying theory to me especially since the population they want is 500 million. It'd be over 90% of the world killed off
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>>373176>Does anyone think that the world is actually overpopulated
for a society that is safe, free of disease, and has all of the lovely comforts we've come to enjoy and life would be largely miserable without? yes, we're definitely overpopulated. people will say "no, we have plenty of room", but first off, dense living are the perfect situations for pandemics, and medical waste, waste in general, public safety is a major risk with higher populations, resources are wearing thin, and the effects of pollution and climate change are going to be hitting us very soon, so yes, for everyone to live comfortably, we're overpopulated. people are living longer and longer, too. overpopulation is the reason for every complaint that people have. you cannot meaningfully construct well designed civilizations without having some population check.
>do you think that that is a theory in itself to prevent too many people from being born so it'll be easier to conquer the world? Elite population control is such a creepy and terrifying theory to me especially since the population they want is 500 million. It'd be over 90% of the world killed off
no, because it's in the interest of wealth owners and the elite to devalue labor and human rights, which is easier to do when people are expendable as fuck. people complain about jobs, pollution, cities being too busy, wages being too low, crime, etc, it's all a result of unchecked population growth. having children plays right into the hands of the elite.
Anon, I understand if you think I’m a bad person for what I’m about to say but I do kind of understand population control and why it may be necessary in the future.
I think eventually we’ll have non-Earth colonies in space where cities and infrastructure are taken and that they’ll have a certain number of people living there to balance our current population, perhaps artificial farming as I don’t think we can live sustainably at the rate we are currently reproducing at.
i'm the anon that the anon you responded to, responded to… sorry for bad wording lol
i don't know if you were implying i was a "cool girl who is anti-marriage", but i just wanted to say, i'm not. i don't want to get into any relationships with men, period. i am completely supportive of people who want to get married, but i have my reasons for not feeling like marriage is "for me".
>overpopulation is the reason for every complaint that people have. you cannot meaningfully construct well designed civilizations without having some population check.
I think this is an unfortunate truth a lot of people have a hard time reconciling.
I mean, I’m not an expert or anything, I’m just another citizen of the world, but we’re not evolving like we should be anymore as we continually push up against one another, fight and scrap, people are stratified across economic lines because there aren’t enough jobs for everyone, etc. This isn’t an ideal situation.
We may look back at the past and criticize how backwards our ancestors may have been, but they lived knowing and understanding something modern people don’t - this balance of life and death. Nowadays everybody seems to be suffering from some sort of existential dread as we build on top of one another, or people resort to radicalism to combat the sense of meaningless and a loss of identity.
There’s a lot I love about living in the modern world and all it’s luxuries, but as I get older I wonder more and more where we are going and what it all ultimately means. It seems like we are continually fighting endless wars in places no one cares about, I see people dreaming of these utopias where the value of the individual is lost in a quagmire of words and empty philosophies instead of concrete action, and ideas are jealously guarded by an elite class which forces the poor and the outcast to sell their soul to whomever preaches the loudest. We no longer ask questions about the human condition, people don’t really challenge the status quo and those that do often have ulterior motives which ultimately benefit themselves.
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100% agree. It’s crazy that being childless/childfree is depicted as horribly selfish when not having any offspring is the easiest way to ensure you have a smaller carbon footprint. >>373141
The internet has just confirmed how much parenthood sucks and I’m so glad I don’t feel the pressure to procreate anymore. Happy for people who genuinely want children (even if I think the world is overpopulated and honestly wish more people would adopt/that adoption was an easier process) but it just sounds GHASTLY and I hate how so many people blindly follow the life script.
Just a bit.. yeah to the mid 30s or even 40s these days.. with one or two kids at the most. And marriage-less relationships as well as divorces are more accepted and promoted, so much OOW are becoming more common than "non-bastard" kids.
Fertility rate of all race and sexes is going down, I'm telling you right now that's not from the media telling them to have kids lol
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Posting here, because it could be all bullshit.
I randomly found this in the 4chan archives and it mostly contains some autist sperging about how ugly some model is.
But she/he also talks about how yakuza supposedly controls lolita fashion, that Kota is also one of their "whores" and about Gackt also being part of that business.
>Well, Japanese lolitas and cosplayers are threatened and harassed to quit lolita/cosplay as a whole by people affiliated with ad agencies(=Yakuzas) because the "market" now belongs to the Kanto Rengo network and not the former customers. Lolita brands have no power to kick out Yakuzas. Putomayo is closing, H.Naoto closed, Meta's designer got kicked out of her own company, Mary Magdalene's owner slept with a teenager…etc.
>A night before seiyuu Ai Takabe was arrested for drug posessions, she was at a party with 50 celebrities and one of them was Dakota Rose.
>Attendees of this "party" was under thei influences of substances that people suspect shady ties with drug dealers.
Read if you've got some spare time on your hands and are bored.
Kek anon you should play the Yakuza series, there's a storyline in the 5th game about the idol industry and yakuza affiliation.>Gackt
You might like this video; it details everyone who has been “suicided” by the Clinton’s before and
after Bill’s presidency.
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I don't think he was ever considering running really. He was into acting, failed his bar exam like three times, and for like ever he was heavily invested in this terrible chic pop culture and politics magazine that he dreamt up. Don't really think much beyond being the modelesque heir to a political dynasty was on his radar. Yes that is Cindy Crawford in a George Washington costume and unsurprisingly the magazine was a flop
There's a difference between obvious WK and intervention of other cows VS the skillful manipulation that goes over other people's head. It is on the same level of narcissistic manipulation.
This is what I meant by that. Also, nice distraction and false equivalency ya did, anon. ;p
Also found it weird that they would spell dominoes as "dominos"…
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See this Planned Parenthood memo from the 60's, not long after it's openly racist/eugenicist nature was not obfuscated
Black Nobility:>Stanley, Morgan, Goldman, Kuhn/Kohn/Cohn/Cohen, Oppenheimer, Rothschild, Rockefeller, Warburg, Spencer-Churchill, Stuart/Stewart, Planck, Smith, Jasper, Levy, Palmer, Gordon, Moore, Fitzgerald, Kennedy, Noble, Bennett, Forbes, Beresford, Bancroft, Barclay, Cabot, Higginson, Adams, Baker, Coffin, Cooper, Delano, Gardner, Otis, Quincy, Rice, Bush, Lehman, Tudor, Sassoon, Shermans, Clarkes, Royces, Lindsays, Raffles, Robinson, Pratt, Bartlett, Abraham, Guggenheim, Loeb, Strauss, Sach, Lazard, Seaf, Schiff, Morgan, Schroder, Harriman
Jesuits: >Aldobrandini/Borghese, Breakspear, Borja/Borgia, Chigi, Colonna/Cologna, Conti, Farnese/delle overe, Gaetani/Caetani, Merdici/Medici/Domedici, Orsini/Maximus, Pamphii, Somaglia, Este Estence, Flavian
Black Nobility Houses:
>House of Bernadotte, Sweden
>House of Bourbon, France
>House of Braganza, Portugal
>House of Grimaldi, Monaco
>House of Guelph, Britain (the most important one)
>House of Habsburg, Austria
>House of Hanover, Germany (the second most important one)
>House of Hohenzollern, Germany
>House of Karadjordjevic, Yugoslavia (former)
>House of Liechtenstein, Liechtenstein
>House of Nassau, Luxembourg
>House of Oldenburg, Denmark
>House of Orange, Netherlands
>House of Savoy, Italy
>House of Wettin, Belgium
>House of Wittelsbach, Germany
>House of Württemberg, Germany
>House of Zogu, Albanian
>>370214>get as much personal stories and dox
How would they obtain this info, unless you excessively blogpost?
sage for pizzabait
I think microchipping as a way of tracking victims
definitely exists. we know it exists in black market international sex trafficking, why not Hollywood as well
hmm as someone with problems self harming I'm pretty sympathetic to marina (she had a fucked childhood iirc so its understandable that she would use self harm in such an exhibitionistic way) and don't actually believe she's deeply involved outside of her edgy art being appealing to whackjobs but hey who knows
maybe I'm just sad that a woman artist who struggled with bad things could now be involved in perpetration? maybe I find her art too easy to sympathise with. idk
Children of the elites often have fucked up childhoods due to SRA, but that doesn’t mean we continue to feel sorry for them as they continue the abuse.
But I guess you don’t really care bcuz MUH FEELS!!!! are more important than blatant satanism and pedophelia.
I am that anon you replied to (still hanging around, yep) and precisely because I used to self-harm for 15 years or so I am not supportive of her histrionic art. Women that self-harm are usually ashamed and yet they get accused of doing it for attention and laughed at. I can imagine it was worse in the 70's as there was less knowledge about this kind of behavior and mental illness in general. And yet this pos used a very real torment as a shocking gimmick and still gets praised for it because ~it's art uwu~.
Plus what >>381628
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courtney stoddens resemblance to marilyn monroe freaks me out
the fact that she's obsessed with her certainly doesnt help, but her mannerisms and everything just look like her so much that it really does make me wonder if reincarnation or cloning is a thing
Tbh if it was regulated and out in the open I’d have zero issue with discarded fetal tissue going to research and other purposes of good.
I take those videos with a grain of salt, this country is not universally pro-choice, if this was really the smoking gun prolifers think it is, it’d be nationwide outrage.
Yeah, just the fact it's all behind the curtain just really freaks me out.
I also just have a huge problem with inserting compensation or money in this for anyone. Selling someone else's fetal tissue just so you can personally profit is just so fucking weird. These tissues should be used for research, not so they can be passed around to the highest bidder. There honestly needs to be a ban on harvesting and selling tissues for private profit.>>382083
That's not too bad, but it still isn't right that one party profits from selling the foreskins. No one should be paid for harvesting tissues, just so you can transform them into consumerist products.
It is regulated https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R44129.pdf
The entire series of the PP videos were made my the Center for Medical Progress, an anti-abortion group
What they thought were "smoking guns" were literally worthless. The only people that cared were pro-lifers, but nothing discussed in any of the videos is/was illegal. It sounds scary to the average person who doesn't know anything about fetal tissue research, which was the purpose of making the video.
The last I heard the founder of Center for Medical Progress was facing 15 felony charges related to the videos, not sure what ever happened with that>>382065
OP of the video please actually research this shit before blindly believing a vehemently anti-abortion group. Fetal tissue has been used for years and now we're using it for medical research on conditions like Parkinson's. Fetal tissue research is the reason why we have vaccines for chicken pox and shingles and aren't constantly disease-riddled! It's actually being phased out as stem cell research becomes more advanced. And the women who donate fetal tissue do so on a voluntary basis; the process for the patient is just the same as any other abortion so I don't really know what you mean by "of course the patient receives absolutely nothing in return," abortions are typically very safe and you can recover at home.
yes, it's regulated, and the videos are trying to show that those regulations are being violated.
page 5 of the PDF you linked: > the timing, method, or procedures used to terminate the pregnancy were not altered in order to obtain the tissue; and the abortion was performed in accordance with applicable state law.
the doctors in the PP videos said that they were altering the procedures to get intact tissue, which is illegal. this isn't a pro-choice issue, it's about doctors potentially hurting women for profit. they should be trying to perform the abortion in the safest way, that's supposed to be the only priority, not trying to get research materials. the pdf also says that they can receive money for the fetal tissue, but only to cover the costs associated with storage/transportation/etc, but they can't profit off of selling them. the centre for medical progress videos also imply that PP was making money beyond just covering those costs.
literally every claim that the pro-lifers made about PP is specified as being illegal in that document, did you even read the shit that you linked?
you can say that you think the videos are faked or whatever, or that you think those things shouldn't be illegal, but you can't claim that admitting to illegal activity isn't a "smoking gun"
Marilyn was the first monarch slave so of course the elites would make Courtney and all the other famous bitches look like her.
This process is part of the beta (sex-kitten) program.>>382162
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Her eyes and mannerisms are so fucked. She literally moves like an animatronic.
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I believe that for sure. But they have done a REAL good job with her in comparison to the others. Just off of the top of my head, all the celebrities and drag queens and everyone else who's tried to take on her persona, Anna Nicole, Madonna, etc, none managed to look or act THIS much like her. It just freaks me out because she literally has her face lol.
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Courtney's manner is very studied. She tries hard to make herself act like Marilyn, which might not bring Marilyn to the viewer's mind if Courtney looked different, but pair it with her Marilyn makeup and Marilyn nosejob and you can't help but think of Marilyn.
She's basically a Marilyn impersonator at times, which is sad because if you try to copy someone else you'll only ever be a second-rate version of them.
Sorry for ruining the conspiracy theory lol. I would like Marilyn to be reincarnated but nah, Courtney is just a woman who needs therapy and a sense of identity so she's trying to be someone else.
The way Gatter is talking about the possibility
of changing the method of abortion from manual to machine suction in the video makes it clear that it has not been done even though the guy tries to bait her. She even says, "Well, now you’re shading into the area of you’re paying me to do something that’s not right. So that’s not what I want to talk about!" after he attempts to bait her into saying she would take more money to instruct a doctor to improperly administrate an abortion to get fetal tissue.
What seems to be "haggling" on her end is CMP leading her into agreeing to raise the price. She says $50 and he keeps saying other places pay more, she needs to raise the price. She literally says "we’re not in it for the money… [but] there are costs associated with the use of our space…" and then says "It’s been years since I talked about compensation, so let me just figure out what others are getting…" sure, there should be a discussion of how much specifically they need to reimburse their costs, but it's not as nefarious as it seems at first glance. In other CMP videos, like the one with Melissa Farrell, she clearly specifies the costs. It seems to me that Gatter doesn't know the specific cost, or is led to believe that they should be reimbursed more for services rendered, but states she is going to see what the appropriate cost would be.
Sure, the video raises red flags. Mary Gatter is unsavory but she isn't making every decision at Planned Parenthood, and it's stupid to think that this is some conspiracy or that there's some nefarious scheme involving hollywood skincare or something else idiotic. No illegal activity was admitted to in the video.
Well, he asks her about changing the procedure to get an intact specimen, and then, starting at 4:40, she says that there's "a little problem, which may not be a big problem" about how if they change the procedure at all, aiming to get better tissue:
>"Then we're kind of violating the protocol that says to the patient, 'we're not doing anything different in our care of you'">"Now to me, that's kind of a specious little argument and I wouldn't object to asking Ian, who's our surgeon who does the cases"
(to alter the usual procedure) >"in order to increase the odds that he's going to get an intact specimen">"But I do need to throw that out there as a concern"
then she acknowledges that it's illegal, because they've both signed something (doctor and patient) but she doesn't think there's a big difference in doing one or the other
So can you explain to me how she isn't saying that she "WOULDN'T OBJECT" to doing something that she's admitting is illegal, and calling the expectation that she would adhere to a signed legal document a "specious little argument", because in her mind she's only "KIND OF violating" it
of course she would get uncomfortable once he makes it clear that he's setting her up, but you can't deny that she agreed to it, and said that she doesn't think the law is a big deal
they have another video on their channel called: "Planned Parenthood's Custom Abortions for Better Baby Parts", which has more examples of this
by the way, i'm not a conspiracy theorist or anything, not even a pro-lifer, just being realistic about the fact that money tends to be more valued than women's health
you dont have to be a conspiracy theorist to think its fucked up for a multitude of reasons, to be using human body parts(especially that of fetuses or dead babies) for products and consumerism
its honestly gross and scary and i cant believe anyone would defend it
Obviously I know the video was funded by a pro-life organization, but my point was what >>382259
said, the fact that only the most elite people are getting shocking amounts of money to twist the rules and laws for a purely consumerist desire is completely fucked up. The fact that after she talks about bending the rules, she jokes, "I want a Lamborghini" while shoving her face with food at some shitty dinner is so Lynchian and disgusting.
I don't have a problem with abortion, nor do I have a problem with fetal tissues being used for research. I have a fucking problem with these elitist demons behind the show profiteering from women's bodies and their pain, while they still have to bear all of the shame and burdens from the procedure. The commerical sale of fetal tissue should be banned because we don't fucking need it in our skincare/beauty/health products, we need it only in research.
Wow you’ve actually bought into the CMP pro lifer garbage. No human body parts are being sold. Fetal tissue is being sold.
They’re not tearing arms off babies and selling them on the black market for nefarious purposes. The rhetoric of ~dead babies are being ripped apart limb by limb for profit~ is fucking dangerous, as evidenced by the man who shot up a PP office and killed people explicitly for that reason. >>382257
There was no wrongdoing done by PP proved by investigations into their practices, and PP never even attempted to work with the fake company in these videos in the end because of their illegal propositions, so I’m not sure why you’re taken something a medical director for Pasadena said she would run by a doctor as a possibility as bible truth. I’m sorry to say but there’s no conspiracy here, just some old hag who’s bad at her job. >>382395
Is $50-$100 for services rendered really so shocking to you? You’ll be very shocked when you find out that the middlemen who buy tissue and sell to other organizations sometimes charge tens of thousands of dollars. They’re the ones profiting here, not abortion providers. Planned parenthood makes barely any money off of it. Should there be more regulations? Absolutely, but I really think you guys are off base here.
It has absolutely nothing to do with being pro life.
Its fucking disgusting period and its a slippery slope.
Human body parts or "tissue" should only be used to advance medically or to provide life saving advantages to other humans, it should never be used for consumerism.
Dont act like its the same thing as stem cell research, organ donation or in vitro or anything that is medically apt which I think most people would agree are perfectly fine.
We are talking about rich people using essence of humans(however little the amount is or whether or not you want to get into "a fetus aint a human lulz" bullshit or not) for vain, elitist consumption and its practically how every dystopian novel starts.
So, I wanted to just bring this up out of curiosity.
What do some of you guys think about scientific rationalism, materialistic philosophy (NOT consumerism) and how politicized ‘science’ has become in the world?
I’m neither for no against it, but I am curious about many of the ‘beliefs’ which have become pretty much dogma within the past 20 or so years in the post modern era. For example:
>many so-called ‘scientists’ have become quasi-religious figures with devoted followings who have specific beliefs about how the world operates and any deviation from it, and you are met with vitriolic shaming
>a lot of popular scientific media and pop culture theories advocate for a very rationalistic, materialistic worldview where humans are often reduced to nothing more than machine organs, and moral codes/values are derided for ‘holding people back’
>religion is universally panned as evil without even attempting to understand its relationship to human evolution, and you are not allowed to consider the potential existence of spiritual entities or a reality which does not conform to the linear, technologically-centered civilization ‘science’ advocates will be our future
>very little interesting research is shown to the public, giving people the impression that scientists do not explore certain theories and do not ask certain questions, and what is often seen is often very one sided and dated
>the diluted version of certain philosophies like ‘subjective reality’ are passed down into soft fields like the social sciences, giving rise to the idea that our individual reality cannot be trusted, that humans do not share the same experiences, and that we cannot trust ourselves to think without someone doing it for us.
>no one is allowed to question how artificial intelligence will affect human society, even though it is becoming increasingly more likely that advanced technology will render some aspects of human life obsolete, possibly creating even more inequality than ever before
>humans in industrialized, advanced societies are encouraged to eschew compassion, emotions like empathy, culture, beauty, and tradition as these values are in conflict with the world which is being created
>in regards to the above, students in university are encouraged to focus ONLY on tech-based degrees, and the liberal arts deemed ‘obsolete’ because these courses are human centric; potentially the humanities may be written out of curriculm as they are deemed unnecessary, leaving students in the dark on the human condition and the powers which shape our history
BTW, I’m not anti-science. I am, however, becoming aware of something funky in the way the world is moving.
You're right, there is a big problem with 'scientific rationalism'. And the problem is scientists LARPing as philosophers and speaking outside of the fields they are expert in. Meme scientists don't just do this with philosophy, meme scientists can and do comment on medicine, sociology, economics and political theory when they lack the proper understanding. The whole 'technocrat' movement was basically meme scientists doing this.
There are actually decent scientists with a philosophical understanding, many even use their knowledge of mathematics to justify metaphysics and certain forms of platonism, not every scientist is a radical phenomenonist/empiricist. These aren't the celebrity scientists unfortunately though.
'science' doesn't exist. Well it does exist but it also doesn't. 'science' is a 19th century meme logical positivists and hard empiricists used to re-brand 'Natural philosophy', early modernists like Hume and friends thought empirical testing couldn't extend to discovering axioms and the human mind, but later modernists believed they could.
This isn't a new problem though, it's getting worse because we've disregarded the humanities so much in our society. The meme scientists are the same technocrats as always. But the humanities and universities themselves are responsible for losing the battle, by dropping their standards they hollowed out what the humanities meant. And embracing subjectivism and post-modernism to the extent they did has crippled the ability of people in the humanities to make sense of their culture and the world around them.
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Forgot my picture, this fuck is basically exactly who I'm talking about.
I'm not particularly smart or knowledgeable, but I'll give it my best shot.
Basically, I agree for the most part with >>382751
. But I have noticed that the top echelons of technology specialists have (re-)embraced the roles of humanities in advancing technological research. Mainly in AI, humanity and human beings are being re-focused into the limelight. This doesn't seem to be trickling down to the lower levels of research atm, students and such. Mid-career professionals seem to be getting the message in my limited experience.
I think part of the problem lies in that schools are teaching science outside of its context. We learn that the Earth is flat, lava is molten rock, and so on. I'm only an asshole who took a class about the history of scientific theory once, but it did change my view in important ways. We know lava is molten rock because people were trying to find logical explanations that a supernatural being could really create a world in 7 days. Most of the early discoverers of scientific theory were deeply religious and trying to explain their beliefs. Scientists these days are characterized as anti-religious, cold, solidly logical, rational beings, but a lot of the scientific facts we accept as fundamental nowadays was rooted in religion. I don't know where the shift in perspective happened, though.
I definitely agree that science has become politicized. Many scientists and researchers can only do as much as the money will allow.
As for Subjective Reality:>humans do not share the same experiences
beyond the really basic, survivalist experiences, we do not. I cannot even begin to actually understand what it is like to be poor in a 3rd world country. I honestly believe anyone who believes that all humans experience the same shit in the same way in all parts of the globe is just a self absorbed weirdo.
Most of your issues with science seem like issues with capitalism as it appears to us now. What research that actually happens is usually an issue with what type of research gets funded (what is better for politics or profits). Keeping people from understanding our fellows is what makes them spend money against us. Looping back to AI research, the technology is almost basically there. Speech recognition, for example, has like a 5-10% error rate. They are refocusing and putting more importance into "soft" science and human-based behaviors so it is not totally hopeless. "Soft" science (anthropology, sociology, etc) were all held in very high regard for as long as men dominated those fields.
Half of the comments on his page when it were announced were saying it was suspicious.
Now they have deleted his page because there was too much evidence on it. Just proves foul play. They took his company and then he mysteriously "fell" from 33 floors. I feel so bad for him. Thank you Brandon for being honest so we all know what happened to you. I hope people boycott the parent company. I bet the products will go to shit now too that he isn't designing and overseeing it.
I think anyone with a business should either sell outright or ignore all offers. They used their share/investment to illegally push him out, remove him as CEO, delete the founder page, ban him from his own stores. They stole his company from right under him, but thousands of fans saw and know.
Can someone post a summary for my dumb ass so I understand how and why they (who?) are using fetal tissue from abortions for medical experiments (or something?)
Is this with the mother's consent? Are they selling anything as a result? Help my dumb self out please
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I'm digging around to see if he has posted about this anywhere else.
And she also looked up his wife’s name on google, I think she’s connected to this.
It doesn’t help that her dad’s a Freemason either
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Good lord anon, that's heavy.
Is there any way for the public to obtain information about how expensive it is for airline companies to review/install safety features?
I know you could probably collect information about the victim
's lawsuits but what the actual airlines spend and decide to spend on seems to be much more hidden.
How much of these corporation's actions and dealing are public information?
Yes absolutely, plus it would help the pedophiles to compartmentalize the events in their own minds and appear to be normal in everyday life. It's like some horrific dream sequence for all parties…other than the trauma and injuries maintained by the victims
I am not sure that I buy it. Aren't planes built using redundancy as a safety measure?
Though at the same time, I am not aware of what is done vs what could be done, using technology available to us atm.
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I get this is the tinfoil thread but have you ever actually looked into what it takes to get a plane in the air? Shit is regulated to hell and back. I have close friends and family working at Boeing and you can't fart in a room there without having to fill out three different pieces of paperwork. I mean, they literally pay a guy 80k a year to inspect screws and bolts so the idea that they would then cut costs on more effective safety measures just doesn't make any sense.
Also litigation is peanuts compared to money they get from shareholders and when planes crash, stock values crash.
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I’m starting to think that this board is run by N**l with a full mod team of scrotes and troons, I’ve also had suspicion that multiple cows have been fucking the mods to get their threads taken down. Pear and PnP were the milkiest people this site ever had and they shut them down!
O and Lainey looks like a foot(:DDDDd farmham has ben put out to basture xD)
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I think the theory that everyone in the media/hollywood knew about 9/11 beforehand is very interesting, Im always coming across random pics and videos that seemed to have predicted it or alluded to it in some way that I never saw before.
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I mean, Baron does
look like the kid in the novel.
they already are there. My tinfoil is that they're desperate to overturn roe v wade/restrict bc for white womeb so they can force their birthrate back up and
not become a minority. Pretty sure it'll fail
I remember reading a prediction by Baba Vanga who claimed in the future all races and ethnicities of people will come together and become 1 and I kinda believe it
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>tfw start buying into the Mandela Effect theory
I told my mom about it, and mentioned the Fruit of The Loom thing. She agreed with me and said the cornucopia had always been there.
It's definitely real. I think it's some form of mass gaslighting to see just how much "they" can get away with.
Apparently Britney’s now in the loony-bin being reprogrammed. #freebritney>>400056
Ugh, why the fuck are you here then if you don’t believe or explore any of this shit? Do you even realize where you are?
I believe Sewol ferry accident was caused by SK's governement, as a sacrifice for the cult that their ex-president was involved in.
There are so many nonsensical shit, president being gone for 7 hours and government not helping and just ordering the coastal guard to film the sinking ship, president referring to the victims
as "noble sacrifices", government obviously hiding evidence etc…https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmAwXHu7sCg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhME_nj5CWc
If you dig deeper, you'll start getting into the reports and interviews with parents of the deceased that some victims
had died by hypothermia. Indicating that they didn't drown, but were in fact trapped within the ferry inside air pockets for hours before being overcome by elements.
It's accused that the SK government purposefully stalled the rescue efforts and rejected foreign intervention. Specifically the Coast Guard who outright turned away diving assistance.
Sadly, I've tinfoiled about this before with a similar argument about airplane crashes versus cost of installing proper safety features: It's easier for companies (or government in this case) to cover up dead bodies than to risk survivors.
In this case, the SK government already had a conflict of interest in being involved with the Korean Shipping Association, aka the people who overlooked the modifications and overloading done to the ferry. Corruption.
The second the SK gov't got word of that ferry sinking, the higher ups KNEW some people be going down, but also knew that the outcome would be worse for many more if there were survivors to be had–witnesses to the negligence, Coast Guard cover up, and ergo more people who wouldn't disappear any time soon. Survivors would cause bad air for decades and demand compensation. Pesky things just won't shut up and go away on their own.
Dead bodies are silent. Students "accidentally" dying in a disaster due to poor safety regulations is a "sacrifice" and a "tragedy," not malicious murder, or so it would seem to someone not looking too hard into the headlines.
When parents of the victims
demanded answers and compensation, the SK government painted them as money hungry leeches. Park Geun Hye, the now impeached ex SK president, blacklisted any artist who tried to represent the ferry sinking. Park wasn't present for several hours after first word of the ferry sinking (some people attribute this to cult theories and the outside advisor), but I think the bitch was just getting her ducks in order and parachuting the most VIP corrupt officials.
if you take a gander into the kpop crit thread or just happen to browse some news sites today, theres info about the clubs the idols and elites are connected too now being alleged to have made snuff films and actively participated in trafficking and raping literal children
its crazy and scary shit and its not exclusive to korea im sure it happens in hollywood too but people freak out if you even suggest theres a possibility of truth in the theories
The conspiracy to make people shit in a toilet is the best kept secret of the Jews.
Yesterday I came to the conclusion that the other Jewish conspiracies are a mere smoke screen for the newbies to ignore the Jewish conspiracy of the toilets.
Until the invasion of Venezuela by the CIA is because Venezuelans do not have toilet paper, so the Jews seek to enslave them to use toilet paper and thus make millions of toilet and sanitary products for cleaning the ass when people shit .
That's why the UN is carrying out education campaigns in India so that the Hindus shit in toilets, it is clearly a Jewish plan to sell sanitary, toilet paper and soap in India.
That's why the Jews pass laws so that shitting in the bush is illegal.
That is why children are brainwashed so that they learn to clean their ass with toilet paper and shit in toilets, Jews control education globally, it is only logical that they promote this since it makes them earn a lot of money selling paper hygienic and sanitary.
There are many Jews in the toilet industry, Jews control the bathroom soaps industry, bath towels and other industries related to shitting in a toilet.
Jews also control porn, which is why in scat videos they are toilets, it is part of the Jewish plan so that people who subconsciously fap with shit use toilets.
On television we see commercials of soap and toilet paper every day to clean our asses, clearly when controlling TV and newspapers too, it is evidence of a Jewish conspiracy to do social engineering so that people buy cleaning products to clean their asses when they shit in a toilet.
Hitler knew of these plans to make people shit in toilets, that's why he made World War II and turned Jews into soaps.
Everything that has happened since then is evidence of the Jewish plan to make everyone shit in toilets.
The other Jewish plans on the NWO and the white genocide are mere smoke screens so that people do not suspect the plan of the toilets.(This is bait.)
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I think Brie Larson is being shilled to promote manly features so that the public will be more receptive to trannies and see them as the beauty standard. I don't think she is a tranny though.
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They are continuing to blur the gender lines, all according to keikaku.
I was going to ask why Avicii was killed off while Dave Mustaine is allowed to live, but then I watched both videos and realized that >>403245
is straight to the point, more poignant and rings more true, while this Megadeth video doesn't really betray any truths, and is almost….exploitative and trite.
Whoever wrote the Megadeth video only knows as much as any regular person who takes the time to read about Pizzagate. Avicii, on the other hand, probably knew a bit more than anyone can say for sure at this point. Who knows what he might have eventually exposed if left alone?
I think the same is true for the creator of Pan's Labyrinth, but his silence has been bought and paid for.
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You think that woman looks "manly"?
We need more butch women in media if people think that's manly kek.
I saw in one thread someone calling Gillian Anderson manly. What kind of warped perception of femininity do you need to have that you consider a woman manly?
I get the feeling that as soon a woman isn't have a fairy tier long hair in a long dress with huge eyes, small button nose, and heart shaped lips, she's automatically deemed a guy here.
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The video came out after the whole pizzagate thing calmed down, and then I found this tweet…
>nothing surprises me anymore
>>403686>conventionally beautiful feminine face>square jaw
pushing trans narrative!>>403747>has soft feminine face>has curvy body with large breasts and nice butt>has short hair and is strong
Can't stand these transvestigator people. I know that's not what you're saying but there's literally people out there who think HITLER was trans. One of my friends actually believes in the "Michelle Obama is trans" conspiracy theory and that they killed Joan Rivers because she "exposed" it.
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But all women look like 8 year olds if they dont theyre men!! This one example might even be a man secretly because her orbital bone slightly protrudes reee!!!
lol what, this is just ridiculous. she doesnt even look manly she just has a square face, which is completely normal.
also, even a woman who perhaps has a few masculine features is easily distinguishable from a tranny. 99.9%+ of trannies are immediately clockable.
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Yep it's so easy to tell in almost every case. Pic related is Mac's mom from It's Always Sunny (Sandy Martin) on the left and Axl Rose on the right. Axl could seriously be almost any trans woman you see on the street and is instantly clockable. Women who look like Mac's mom aren't that rare and always look more like women than 99.9% of trans women.
So insane that people think Michelle Obama is trans. So what, she's in her 50s and they started her transition when she was young, before it was even remotely common. Because they foresee her getting married to a man who will become the president in 40 years…and they know the trans issue will be big after Obama is president…to push the trans narrative? like that is the most ridiculously insane conspiracy theory.
The trans narrative is pushed by the healthcare industry making doctors and the general public believe that the only and best treatment is lifelong hormones and surgery. They didn't need a Manchurian Candidate tranny in the white house to push this narrative lol
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You gotta have overexaggerated feminine features now in order to be a woman I guess, the media also believes Brie Larson to be flat and shapeless too
These people even claimed Marilyn monroe was trans, do these people live in cities where the women all look like ball jointed dolls and men all look like gi Joe figures? Or do they just think everyone but them is trans?
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it's her styling now that just sucks. she's very pretty and feminine when she has bangs that cover her forehead otherwise… yeah.
jenette goldstein in alien is objectively more masculine than brie but i'd rather see her in movies than brie just because i don't personally like her face.
Here's a fresh hot TINFOIL for this thread: I think the transvestigation shit and other of these new conspiracy theories are being pushed by TPTB / some psyop group to dismantle the conspiracy theory community and make it look as insane and retarded as possible.
PIZZA GATE was the FIRST pedo ring conspiracy theory to make it in mainstream media and when it was it was riddled with the most inane and irrational aspects possible.. really makes u thinkus
The conspiracy theory community hasn't been the same since 2012.
Gingers don’t age well, do they? Kek>>404804
Except there is some
truth to the pizzagate conspiracy compared to the trans one. The rituals aren’t obviously gonna be held at a pizza joint and there is also proof about Obama requesting “pizza and hotdogs”.
>>404804>a conspiracy to make conspiracy theorists look insane
no you literally do that to yourselves. meeting a conspiracy theorist in person is always such a fucking trip because tons of them are willing to admit that they believe every single theory no matter how far fetched.>inb4 wHy aRe yOu evEn HerE thEn Reeeee
i know, i know. but it’s just /ot/ so who cares. there’s some genuine crazy-person shit in this thread.
Imagine marrying a cutie like Axl Rose and then he turns into this hahahaha>>404804>transvestigation shit
What is that exactly? Is there something other than people saying some women look like men?
Also I don't understand how the media just glazed over those very real, very shady podesta emails but had to go with the most ridiculous parts of pizza gate. They would've gotten actual attention and views for that. If they thought it was ~*sooooo*~ irrational and crazy but were too afraid to go after those parts…
So are we sure our pal Onion boi isn’t under mind-control? This split personality shit has been going way back since 2002 when he came up with “Onision” and at the time claimed it was the name of his many personalities (can no longer find the source on Someguy’s tumblr anymore as I used to use that as a shortcut). Not to mention, he has family/connections to the military which is known to participate in the mk ultra project and so did the Seventh Day Adventist group. Also, this post might be on to something: >>>/pt/658248
To note:>Greg doesn’t remember anything between the ages of 5-11 other than the girls he used to crush on >He was sexually abused and harassed as a child by his mom, relatives and his camp counselor (Julia) from church >Spent a few weeks in Korean military jail for…autism and never really gave much detail about it.>He somewhat dabbled in the occult and tried to make his religion come true and apparently was demonically possessed for a time.
No. People literally think that certain historical or political or celebrity figures are trans. To further the trans narrative and/or as explanation to why they were they way they were. Video related is HITLER'S transvestigation. There's many videos like this about many other people.
>hitler had hypospadias meaning his urethra opened on the other side of his penis>IN OTHER WORDS HE HAD A V!!!!>>404804
kek I think this about Alex Jones. I know it's not true but sometimes I really feel like he's actually an agent of the government there to make any and all conspiracy theories look insane. Most of them are insane (pyramids in Antarctica for example) but many have been proven to be true.
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Hi, sorry for the late response. But to say more on the topic, pic related is what Del Toro has said about the Pale Man, a monster in Pan's Labyrinth who eats children.
On top of that, here is some more he had to say about him from a 2006 interview:>The Pale Man represents the Church for me, y'know? [He] represents fascism and the Church eating the children when they have a perversely abundant banquet in front of them. There is almost a hunger to eat innocence. A hunger to eat purity. I didn't want to avoid it, but I did not seek Catholic imagery. >Nevertheless, I understand that redemption by blood and the rebirth by sacrifice is a Catholic conceit. So I accept it without any problems because I think that sexuality and religion come from your imprint in an early age. Whatever arouses your spirit or arouses your body at an early age, that's what is going to arouse it the rest of your life. Everything will be subordinate to that. It's a personal choice and it's a personal experience.
He somewhat singles out Catholics, but it's obvious from pic related, how he phrased his answer back then and even the way the very scene is handled that he doesn't solely recognize religious folk as the only
powerful institutions or people seeking to "eat innocence and purity". Him saying he "accepts it without any problem" ("it" obviously not only being religion, but the "sexual imprint", aka pedophilia
) is what has me convinced his silence has been bought. He is absolutely no threat to the "Pale Man", no matter what he posts on Twitter or puts in his movies. That's why he hasn't been "suicided" or blacklisted from the industry.
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Same anon (I deleted/reposted this three times already because I made so many mistakes. I'm done, it's too annoying lmao). I want to add this. It's from the same interview, and it's food for thought if you've seen the movie:>[in] the movie all the tests are a misdirection and you actually go back and watch the movie and realize that my thesis is that the Faun is the Pale Man in another guise. He's the trickster in another guise. So is the Faun. And the proof of that in the movie is that at the end when she goes and rejoins her father and her mother and the baby in the other world, the fairies that the Pale Man ate are all around her. The same fairies.
So, this same faun is also, canonically, a "child-eater". And we are actually not to see him as a villain, but a sort of guide, a part of Ofelia's journey to becoming a princess.
In mythology, a faun is a charming creature that notoriously lives in a forest and flirts with beautiful women. It's already a bit suspicious for that specific creature to be chosen to get involved with a child, but that's forgivable, right? It's a forest creature, and Ofelia goes into the forest, after all.
At least that's what I thought, until I found out this was originally meant to be the story of Pan's Labyrinth:>a pregnant woman who arrived to a mansion in Spain; her husband worked for the mansion owner, restoring the home. The woman fell in love with a faun in a labyrinth–they made love–and he asked for the blood of her firstborn in order to open the gate and let her enter the magical kingdom to be with him. The ending was this woman sacrificing her son to go with the love of her life, the faun. Eventually, del Toro realized it was more interesting to talk about the magic through the girls' eyes.http://www.pajiba.com/seriously_random_lists/mindhole-blowers-20-facts-about-pans-labyrinth-that-might-make-you-believe-in-magic.php
So, in this story, instead of a grown woman being charmed, we have a little girl. And instead of a cheerful, fun-loving faun who loves music and merry-making, we have a monster with a desire to eat purity and innocence merely masquerading as one
. He "guides" her through "certain tests", and punishes her for not obeying him.
At first, I thought "But she passed the test and got a happy ending by not
killing her baby brother. If the plot was to take advantage of her naivete and eat a child, doesn't the ending go against that? And why didn't he just eat her on sight?", but to be honest, Ofelia being a pure, innocent child herself actually proves that her little brother wasn't really necessary. He wasn't the target. Also, the reason the faun didn't eat her the moment he saw her was probably because she was 11 years old, meaning she was just old enough to be on the cusp of puberty. Basically, she was at the age where you might stop believing in magic and fairy tales, and are no longer "innocent" enough for a pedophile/child-eater's tastes (much like Mercedes, a grown up character in the film who used to be an little girl who believed in "so many things"). Whether or not Ofelia was "still immortal" (ie still innocent and pure) was an important question to him, because that's exactly what he feeds on. It's why he put her through the tests.
To boost the age/puberty thing, I want to draw attention to this:>In the original draft of Del Toro's screenplay for the film, Ofelia was around eight years old, but after seeing Baqureo, who was 10 at the time of her audition, he realised that he had found his leading lady and rewrote some elements of the script to make the character's age match that of his new leading lady.https://www.hmv.com/video/pans-labyrinth-facts
What exactly would Del Toro need to rewrite in his story that would be fitting for an 8 year old, but wholly unfitting for an 11 year old (and Ofelia is canonically 11, according to this: https://hero.fandom.com/wiki/Ofelia
)? What's so meaningful about the difference of age in a story like this, if it's just meant to be an innocent (albeit dark) fantasy story about a little girl? I don't think anyone has ever really cared whether Alice from Alice in Wonderland is meant to be 8, 9, 10 or 11, so what was the importance in Pan's Labyrinth specifically? I've been turning it over in my mind. I know it's not the most powerful evidence, but it does make me wonder.
IMO, the faun (aka the Pale Man) was just making sure that Ofelia was exactly what he was searching for. In fact, it would've been a win for him either way, since if she was "impure" enough to stab her own baby brother, he could've just eaten him. The fact that she was too pure of heart to injure or kill him confirmed that she was what he wanted, and so her
innocent, pure blood was spilled by the end of the film. She
was eaten. And we're somehow supposed to consider this a "happy" ending because of what she sees after she dies. Supposedly, the reason it's like this is that Del Toro just thought this kind of a story would be "more interesting".
Bottom line, I believe Del Toro knows about the real life parallels to this tale, and he is not opposed to them. At least, that's the impression I'm getting from all that I'm learning.
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One more thing that just popped into my mind: As for why the faun doesn't just snatch the baby from Ofelia's arms and eat him, or why he doesn't eat both Ofelia and her brother, many pedophiles have a specific age of attraction. Infantophiles are attracted to full-on babies, while pedophiles typically prefer children aged 13 or younger, according to Wikipedia. I'm not saying a pedophile wouldn't
go for a defenseless baby, but they most definitely have their preferred targets.
Based on the paintings in his room (pic related - spoilered just in case), the Pale Man is overwhelmingly the latter. He seems to exclusively eat children old enough to walk and wear shoes. In fact, the Pale Man makes it a point to collect
their shoes. This is not new or an entirely original phenomena. Many killers save their victim
's belongings. In fact, the pedophilic child murderer Anatoly Slivko often collected children's shoes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anatoly_Slivko>Slivko typically retained the victim's shoes as a memento.
I read that the shoe thing in Pan's Labyrinth was actually meant to be a reference to concentration camps, but I'm hard-pressed believe that was the only thing being referenced with this particular addition, especially since one of the focal points in this context would be children
, not just any and all victims
. In film, almost nothing is a mistake or a mere coincidence. That's all I've got. Sorry if this was derailing, but it has to do with the Pedogate stuff, so I thought I'd elaborate.
Lower your voice anon
Anyway, Guillermo Del Toro also signed a petition for the release of child rapist Roman Polanski in 2009, and has voiced admiration for Woody Allen before. Two more arrows pointing exactly where Del Toro's loyalties lie. https://www.indiewire.com/2009/09/over-100-in-film-community-sign-polanski-petition-55821/ https://twitter.com/realgdt/status/708847097513021441
Is it actually yerself? There are a lot of smalltime Youtubers and artists who post here so…
I seem to have a natural aversion to symbolically pro-pedophilia stuff, like I avoided M Martinez for years, when I finally investigated it turns out the pedo pandering is off the charts. Del Toro is another one I avoided, who I have just discovered via your posts is another panderer.
Thats a statement you are assuming no one will actually watch.
The whole answer he gave was this.>Well, of course, … I could be on the other side or I could be the one from whom the thing is being taken away. But there was no sense that I shouldn’t be there, because that was — well, actually, in a funny way, it’s just like in the markets — that if I weren’t there — of course, I wasn’t doing it, but somebody else would — would — would be taking it away anyhow. And it was the — whether I was there or not, I was only a spectator, the property was being taken away. So the — I had no role in taking away that property. So I had no sense of guilt.“
He said the opposite of what you pundits claim.
so I posted this >>407773
in the mh thread but it got me thinking about a tinfoil of the gov trying to push for birthrate to rise by eliminating abortion, limiting bc and all that because they're planning the next war. I hear ww3 is coming over and over
there are people who say that the elites will hide underground and wait to profit from the war after
she said she wasn't and that some woman named Diana taught her how to do it. with the tarantula in her mouth, i mean.
the bury a friend video looks rapey as fuck with these leather gloved hands pulling her around and at one point around 1:15 you can interpret it as someone forcing this weird shell person to suck their cock, like, she's sixteen. why are they showing this, seriously? people will say oh, it was her idea but it's interscope, they are in the business of selling product, they're not letting some unknown sixteen year old girl run the show, they are modeling her behavior and her look..
so again, why use horrific or disgusting or violent imagery? is it important to elites that we be forced to see this stuff?
agreeing with >>408156
, when i was a teen i used to run a tumblr focused on gore and pictures of operations and such, the genre was very popular back in like 2012-2014, I just thought it looked pretty and sad. had her shit come out 7 years ago, probably even more teens would be stanning her, they tend to be drawn to the gross, morbid stuff, especially the weird, antisocial ones. who ever curates her image is just aware of this and pandering to the niche
Highly possible; Jonathan Davis’ wife died of an overdose last year while KoRn were getting ready for the 20th anniversary of Follow the Leader and Amy Lee’s younger brother died of an epileptic seizure during the Synthesis tour during that same year. Yet I’m still wondering why did they killed off Vinnie Paul…
However, the most blatant sacrifice I could think of is when Jennifer Hudson had her mom, brother (or cousin?) and young nephew murdered supposedly by the sister’s boyfriend before rising to the top and losing weight.
lina morgana? yeah that situation was sketchy af
lady gaga could literally have her own "conspiracy" thread tbh shes kinda scary
Yes! From hanging with that spirit-cooking lady to allegedly bathing in blood while in the uk after news broke out of some teenager being murdered…
Dang, I wouldn’t know where to start! Though I feel kinda bad as I used to be obsessed with her in the late 2000’s/early 2010’s but am glad I grew out of it.
The spirit cocking lady has photos with literally everyone in Hollywood
Voat has pics with her and kids
It doesn’t have to be healthy
The point is to have single mothers that create more troubled kids that are easier to ship to war/live in poverty
i think that the nuclear family is a meme created by the western governments, especially in america, in the mid 20th century to get more money out of families. a nuclear family really isnt that much better than a single parent tbh, its inherently unnatural and unhealthy.
i think its because a tight knit generational family is going spend less money buying houses, paying for childcare, etc than a nuclear family who will have to pay for a new house every generation and will end up having to pay someone for childcare when both parents have to work to pay off the ridiculous amounts of money. then theres also the elderly, and since they live alone and have no one to look after them, the families will have to pay someone to look after them too. its all just a way to milk people of even more money.
Yeah you're right. This is plain blood sacrifices right in front of us. All these celebrities and politicians of all parties are part of it too. I watched this one youtuber who brought up how so many celebrities cling onto charity work and church (hillsong) because after doing all demonic things they've done to get to where they are, they want to feel human with a soul again.>>412706
"it takes a village to raise a child" isn't just said just because. we're meant to be in communities
this is an interesting thought. my family, when they first came here, settled in an area where there were lots of other people from our ethnic background. it wasn't that we didn't want to integrate, but it was easier on the new immigrants to stay in a place where most if not all still spoke the old language, there were doctors who understood you, priests and churches that said mass in the old language regardless of the fact that the church wanted it said in english, there were older 'wise women' who acted as midwives/psychiatrists/family dispute mediators and lived in what were widely understood to be safehouses for women and children. i'm sure there were places for men to go also, it's more that not being a guy, i don't remember these people. but there was a place for everyone in the community. everyone had a role, even when very old. it could feel small sometimes, but most people liked this way of life so much that even after they learned to speak english, they either stayed in the neighborhood or moved just outside it.
anyhow i'm a bit of an oldfag, enough so that these people and structures were still in place when i was small. nothing was off limits because of it. if i wanted to play with friends i walked over, because there would be three or four young parents i knew on every street who would look out for you. in fact i remember that there was one block where this wasn't the case and i wouldn't walk down it because of that, i would go two streets over and then back down so that people could keep an eye on me. lots of gatherings and parties during holidays, and someone's always having a kid or a birthday or there's a religious festival, and the nice thing was that you always felt safe, no matter what.
my generation was the first to leave for good. i can't speak the language, the neighborhood is gone because the people who held it together are dead. in grade school we were taught that these neighborhoods were the old way, not modern, not in keeping with the health of the nation, that to self-actualize, to become true individuals it was better for us to leave. they also taught us a lot of other specious junk, and for the most part they did it all before we got to college.
i think in some ways, not all, but especially with regards to the mental health of people, the old ways were better. people were happier. they felt like they belonged. if someone didn't have enough, everyone got together and helped out. the village did raise the child. a lot of my 'good' clothes were hand me downs that were about ten to fifteen years out of fashion, but i was five, i didn't know or care.
the nuclear family and single parent households produced a lot of unhappy, lonely, anxious people. a lot of cool shit to buy and bells and whistles and apps to distract you from the fact that you're alone. so many women on anti-psychotics these days, it pisses me off, but that's a tangent i don't want to get on. anyhow.
i'm not much for conspiracy, but i'll say this. there are a lot of things that people will tell you, in school and outside it. a lot of what they tell you is good is not actually good but ultimately destructive for you, both as an actor in society and in private. it benefits the wealthy and the privileged. you are never the privileged. when you're told something is good, you should always ask 'who does this benefit.' most times it doesn't benefit the people or institutions they say they want to help. it benefits their bank account, or their ego. they see people as a means to an end. you should never let them think for you. i'm not talking about left or right or trad bullshit, either.
sorry this was a boomer ramble, guess i had some feelings on the matter.
TL;DR life was pretty good, even being poor, as long as you had a community around you to help out. these days, not so much.
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to be fair a few of the cakes ARE modeled after real people, including celebs
debbie harry probably paid a SHIT ton of money just to be able to ritualistically slice herself up at a dinner party in front of other fucked in the head elite weirdos
these rich people are paying to go to these events and have this psychotic kartrashian lookalike come to their parties and do weird shit
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A brazen,deadly gangster policeman professor and parroting puppet of the computer god was teaching a class on Franklin D. Roosevelt, a known Tsarina Fag.
"Before the class begins, you must get on your knees and worship The Worldwide Mad Deadly Communist Gangster Computer God and accept his lifelong Frankenstien radio controls!"
At this moment, a brave writer of unforgivable thruths and terrorized member of the master race who had typed over 1500 poorly worded rants and understood how CIA gangsters pump deadly poison nerve gas-smoke into secret compartments and lived in a low,deadly niggertown old house,stood up ALONE and held up a thick, strong homemade appeal brief.
"How long do people naturally live before they are dead or useless?"
The cackling, sneering, co-conspiring felon gangster parroting puppet officer professor laughed his mad giggle now,and smugly replied "70 years, you helpless and hopeless frankenstien slave."
"Wrong. People are subjected to worldwide systematic instant-plastic surgery butchery murder,inside a sealed computer god robotic operating cabinet"
The professor was visibly shaken, and dropped his nerve gas ball point pen and blurted many statements. He stormed out of the room crying those hangmanrope sneak Gangster playboy tears.
The students applauded and were all notarized as pummellers of niggers that day and converted to Astrocism,the true religion of the Slovene people.
A deadly touch tarantula spider named "MENACE TO GANGSTER GOVERNMENT" trajected around corners into the room and perched atop the American Flag and shed a tabin needle on the ticker tape. The worldwide open secret was read several times.
The professor lost his tenure and was put into Maximum Security Insanity Prison the next day. He died of the The worldwide completely controlled deadly degenerative climate and atmosphere and was lead into Frankenstein living-death eternal slavery.
MAKE COPIES FOR YOURSELF!
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/ot/ is a giant honeypot to collect all the IPs of TERFs…cuz a dream told me so
The rumors about Fred Durst came from the fact that he and Christina performed a duet at some award show, and his fans got pissed off because >we hate pop muzick you sold out bruhh!!1
and his response was som,ething along the line of "i hate pop music as much as you guys, but i did it for the nookie", referencing his song
not sure about carson daley
There’s too many double entendres here that there really is no truth or lie.
The entertainment industry is very shady so I just take things with a grain of salt.
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>Peter Bright, Ars Technica journalist, male feminist, troll, and frequent critic of gamers and other nerds as misogynist "pedos", has been arrested for attempting to have sex with a 7-year-old girl.https://twitter.com/mombot/status/1137153156243046400
This is already in the pinkpill thread, but the particular Tweet in pic related was too good not to share here.
Chatlog outing him/report: https://www.docdroid.net/UMNWMSx/bright.pdf#page=3
Someone in the comments pointed out how casually he talks about "teaching" kids ("Helping girls find those special places to touch, it's very rewarding", "Do you want the lessons to be heteronormative? Does [the Girl] eat flowers and [the Boy] suck snakes?"). It makes me wonder if this shit is considered "normal" in his circle.
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YouTube star in contact with that photographer went insane recently
She was groomed and the video shows her breakfown
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He made multiple posts about Pizzagate being fake.
I'm not saying that denying PG is some kind of pedo dogwhistle, but I used to personally know one guy who adamantly insisted it was all fake that turned out to be one himself. Also, when I was digging for information, I found some wiki for actual pedophiles
that decried the whole thing and had some bullshit line like "Children in the US are very well taken care of and rarely go missing".
I have a feeling that some of the people who deny it are just doing so in hopes that it'll go undetected and keep existing so they can join in one day (if they haven't already).
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I had planned to post this in the celeb thread but since he’s kinda… one of us, it was appropriate to be posted here.
Coincidental or not, this has to be some kind of sick joke - on Dave’s expense. It should be noted that the former singer of Kiko’s old band had recently died.
I hope he’s right that things will get better for him.
Are you thinking of Voat?
Here you go: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate
Here are my conspiracy theories about the music industry
I was thinking about the Telecommunciations Act of 1996 that was passed under Bill Clinton's presidency and how much this radically effected the US music industry in several ways
>Okay so this bill was passed to give corporations to buy out radio stations and have most if not all radio stations in the hands of 6 corporations, effectively making corporations decide which music and artists gets promoted and creating the playlist for the masses to consume; unlike in the past where the people chose. This damaged non backed by labels indie artists but especially African American artists and music genres, Ill get to this later
>The early and mid 90s music was seeing the revival of socially conscious and politically critical music that was absent from the mainstream of 80s music, similar to the music of the 60s and 70s, as soon as this bill got passed, teeny bopper shit like garbage boy bands and pedophiliac female pop stars with no substance or value got pushed down the masses throats and gangsta rap had an overdevelopment pushing out other black genres and cannablizing them
>This also affected billboard since radio owned the billboard as well as music labels, also musical artists since the mid nineties have increasingly become always in line with the agendas or messages the media or tptb are trying to push
>And boom; music industry sales go down because people cant choose anymore and businessmen are forcing you what to like and choosing the lowest risk artists for max profit and people know this and find it shit, even though this can be seen as early as the 2000s most people didnt start seeming to agree there was something spoiled in the water by the 2010s it seems. Dumbfuck corporations wont learn from their mistakes and switch to streaming which makes artists peanuts in comparision and engagement in award shows, touring acts post nineties; ect goes down
Why is this important? Because people listen to the music and get motivated by it, music is important, if the only messages being pushed out are shit then what does it do to peoples growing and influencing brains? And its not only music; its also other parts of society like this; being more controlled by corporations and businessmen that suck our soul and creativity and art out
Fuck this keyboard
The artists who get promoted and which songs get airplay did get really affected though which was my main focus
Youre right about the late Seventies but also the music industry has become too controlled and imbalanced
I legit saw some aliens once wbu what happened?????
I dont give a fuck if anyone believes me it was like they saw me see them and bailed.
it was three of these in the same-ish area of australia. I saw them in 2012. anyone got similar?? I was so poor I still had a nokia with no video capabilities and I regret it to this day I didn't film it
Apologies for longpost but:
You are absolutely correct that it hasn't been the same since 2012, and to a greater extent through the last election cycle. there was a definite psyop in motion through the Trump campaign. I believe it has something to do with NATO and Cambridge Analytica. Also people with links to the Trump campaign were writing articles in NATO strategy journals:https://www.stratcomcoe.org/jeff-giesea-its-time-embrace-memetic-warfare
There was also a link with Cambridge Analytica employees speaking at/attending NATO strategy meetings around the same time but I can't source that because the writeup I did on this is on my defunct blog and now gone (lol). I'm sure if you do some digging you can confirm what I'm talking about though.
I definitely think there was a concerted effort to manipulate and channel the 'truth movement' or 'conspiracy culture' or whatever you decide to call it.
The 'conspiracy culture' today is in a very bad way. There are still great researchers out there but they get no audience compared to the hucksters. It's all know-nothings selling bullshit to their know-nothing audience who now have a worldview to back up their lack of willingness to know anything. Qanon, a great majority of of the pizzagate stuff, Isaac Kappy, etc. Everything that gets real traction is fake as hell and it's obvious to anyone who have been in the game for more than a couple years and knew the term "deep state" before Fox News co-opted it to mean Obama-era bureaucrats. Some of the fakery is 'benign' moneygrubbing and misinformation, some is legit weaponized disinfo. Crazy times. If the truth is out there it's being buried in a load of absolute horse shit.
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Anyone else follow the drama between Sibel Edmonds/Newsbud and pretty much everyone who gave her exposure originally? Not sure if it's something you guys would be interested but figured I'd check.
Context: She was a former FBI translator and figure in the 9/11 truth movement. Also worked with a few other conspiracy research to expose what she called "Gladio B", a lot of which seemed to make a lot of sense and have some circumstantial evidence. She also is confirmed to be under several gag orders by the US government. Revealed she was a hack by randomly attacking Eva Bartlett and Vanessa Beeley, two independent journalists on the ground in Syria for no reason so far as I can tell aside from jealousy. Made a 75 minute video taking their tweets out of context and outright lying about things that their colleagues said about them. Also painted them as "violent" and "unprofessional" for swearing in emails and DMs, while swearing publicly all the time herself.
This caused everyone, including people who gave her exposure in the first place, to turn on her and leave her "news organization". My tinfoil is that she was some sort of intelligence agent from the start, she clearly had money and knew some stuff but also for awhile had a questionable source of income and was travelling all over the world which I consider a red flag. Was a huge Erdogan shill for awhile randomly which was out of character. All in all pretty sad because I considered her smart and at least relatively trustworthy prior to all the shit flinging.
People write off Pizzagate because they are told by the media, they are the authority.
You'll find a lot of links to the CIA and Israeli intelligence if you dig a little. Epsteins g/f's father was killed by being pushed over his yacht, afterwards it was found he was Israeli intelligence.
Look up George Nader for example, isn't it strange how a person arrested for so much child prostitution is still free and acting as the unofficial Washington liason?
Isn't it odd Epstein initially got off so easily in the same way?https://twitter.com/ROFLMAOLOL12/status/1148820202320044033
Came here after I saw the derailing in the celeb thread haha.
I wish we could scrap the term "pizzagate" honestly because of how much it has been tainted. It needs a new name. And not being one sided politically, it should not matter what party these people are affiliated with. What a coincidence all of them have some kind of connection. Scrap the whole pizza shop owner shit. Start new with connections to celebrities and politicians.
The media made a mockery of it just because of the name pizzagate and the pizza shop. They saw that opportunity and took it.
I like what was posted in the celeb thread about the guy who kept making "google jeffrey epstein" graffiti
Twitter didn't fully go down. If you were trying to use Twitter when it was having issues, you could still access the site, but no content would load. This is because they pushed an update to their backend that fucked up how their API loads profiles and user posts.
I'm not sure what instance you're referring to in regards to Facebook/Instagram going down, but recently Cloudflare pushed an update to their systems that caused CPU usage to spike heavily and cause their main and backup systems to run sluggishly and fail. You may have seen "bad gateway" errors popping up across multiple websites when this happened. That's because a shit ton of sites use Cloudflare, and they were all affected. While I'm not sure if Facebook and Instagram use Cloudflare, I'm pretty sure they use Amazon Web Services. A SHIT TON of sites use AWS to host their data, and if AWS has issues, then all the sites hosted through it will have problems. Same goes for Cloudflare, I just brought it up as an example as I'm more familiar with that fuck-up.
It's really not that deep. It's very easy to mess up when configuring web services, and it's even easier to fuck up when you're the one running a web service that hosts thousands of websites that millions of users access daily. One error and all of your customers' sites go down. That's just how IT is. Sorry if this seems OT, but I just felt like explaining why these things happen.
gotcha, thanks for explaining
i'm still concerned wrt the blackout on the same anniversary