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This thread is to discuss your grievances with gender ideology.
>What is gender ideology? Foundational to transgenderism, gender ideology is the belief that one’s “internal gender” can contradict one’s biological sex.
Gender ideology operates much like a religious cult. There is no scientific evidence that supports the notion that we have an “internal gender,” and yet doctors now medicalize and sterilize children with “transgender identities” who have been groomed by the cult. Anyone who does not reaffirm these delusions is labelled as a “transphobe” in order to discredit any dissenting voices of the cult.
Relevant threads:
MtF/Trans-Identified Male General
>>>/snow/2110309FtM / fakeboi / TIF general
>>>/snow/2100119Ovarit Archives
https://lolcow.farm/2X/res/38865.html#38865Resources:
Peak trans stories from banned Gender Critical subreddit:
https://www.saidit.net/s/GenderCritical/comments/54yt/gcs_peak_trans_archived/ Peak trans stories from Ovarit:
https://pixeldrain.com/l/JTwRJCYR “Listen to trans people” series:
https://x.com/marycatedelvey/status/1897370783816790064 “You told me you were different” TIM on TIF violence anthology:
https://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=1E3552778745CA46FE01054D2886BB3DPrevious threads:
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This was an alternate thread pic, thought I would post here in case anyone doesn't have one on hand for a new thread like I did.
I sorted and cleaned up the previous thread links and numbered them, I hope anons don't mind. I also moved them to the bottom of the thread op since they were getting kind of long.
I was going to add next thread links to the old threads where they're missing, but the threads are locked due to post limit. Which makes sense, but I've been able to do it in the past. Maybe that was an error? Oh, well!
No. 2524296
>>2524163I can answer this question.
What's happening is you're running into an intersection of many different social phenomena.
>criticism of women's interestsThis is the overarching issue. Compare fanservice for men to the prevalence of fanservice for women. Women's sexuality is a joke and viewed negatively, so there is a lot of derision aimed at women for their interests. The backlash against all things BL and women's romance fiction compared to the celebration of coomer art made by men should highlight this for you.
>purity politics/cancel culture?I don't know how else to phrase this, sorry. Woke-ism? KEK. Anyways, instead of observing these facts and finding solidarity amongst women in modern times, fandoms begin to turn on themselves. They will find a "righteous" justification for why it's okay to like the things they do, and in doing so they must tear others down to use as an example. If it's now culturally unacceptable to be homophobic, then you can't criticize someone for liking her ship that has REAL gay "representation", because then you are homophobic. Please note how misogyny is still considered acceptable kek. This is why you will also see annoying crabs online try to weaponize misogyny to complain about how nobody writes enough yuri/wlw content, but it never works. Because frankly, nobody cares.
>trooningFor the weakest among us, this inevitably leads to trooning out. These women can't take the constant criticism or rejection from their peers or objects of attraction, so they attempt to become men. This is meant to work twofold: one, they are no longer women so misogyny doesn't affect them; two, if they are gay men, then you cannot accuse them of homophobia. Why you can accuse women of internalized misogyny but not internalized homophobia is not discussed. But of course, this doesn't allow them to escape misogyny, because they are still women. Gay men still hate them, they're taken advantage of by straight men, and they still hate themselves. In the end, their delusions only serve to deepen rifts in the fandom and incite more infighting. And of course, the ultimate problem
>People Have Different TastesAt the end of the day, there is no media that can claim universal interpretation, nor universal critical acclaim. People will prefer different stories and modes of storytelling. You brought up Hannibal as an example. I can tell you right now that show was meant to have a subtextual homosexual relationship. Bryan Fuller is a faggot and talked about his efforts to have aspects of a homosexual relationship between Will and Hannibal make themselves known to the audience, and the ways he felt limited in doing so by the network and cultural mores. Both he and the actors discuss their attempts to portray this relationship during interviews. The problem for you is that you don't like or care for subtextual romance, and that's fine. Many people wage wars on twitter all day over a ship not being canon because there was not explicit kissing or sex, so you are not alone in this preference. I imagine you would also dislike older films that attempted to portray homosexual relationships in ways that would get past film censors, many people don't care for those either.
But also… some women just think it would be hot if the two male leads kissed or bent each other over. And for some reason, there's this expectation that women need to be higher minded or more rigorous in their tastes than men, who see anime loli girl #4578 and start drawing coomslop. So now we circle back to the first problem and start the whole process over again as you see tv show reviews filled with people slagging each other off for not seeing the unbreakable devotion between side characters C and D. It's a mess. It's annoying.
No. 2524304
>>2524296What backlash against all things BL and women's romance fiction? Maybe I'm just hanging out on different parts of the internet than you are (I don't go on reddit for instance except to laugh at r/MtF so I don't get exposed to too many moid opinions) but I see way more active forcing of BL interpretations on seemingly non-BL media than the opposite and I have friends into booktok/book club shit who are themselves trying desperately to get away from romance slop and find normal books who struggle to do so because romance fantasy shit is so wildly popular now you can hardly get other fiction book recommendations. The BL thing in particular is weird because it spills over into obviously non-BL fandoms and comment sections making it seem like 50% of TV/movie viewers are BL fanatics even though I don't know a single one irl. It would not really annoy me if it wasn't for the constant homophobia accusations whenever someone points out 'those are colleagues' or 'that's a friendship' about some obviously platonic fictional relationship. It's the larping of male gay identity by women (complete with constant homophobia allegations) that confuses me in this instance, not the fact some women ship random fictional moids.
>Please note how misogyny is still considered acceptable kek.Yes, I have noted that, and it is doubly confusing because of how rarely I see women calling out actual misogyny in media compared to how often I see women attacking other women for being 'homophobic' when they don't interpret non-romantic media as romantic. It feels like the only way some women can enjoy media is by romanticizing gay males and these women often self-identify as gay males, whereas when I was younger, women were just into m/m shipping and still knew they were women/girls. This is why it feels like grooming to me - I think it's fine and pretty normal that a lot of young girls are drawn to gay shipping due to finding misogyny in media or shitty portrayals of female characters offputting, but the leap to 'I too am a gay man actually for real' is the disturbing part, knowing how many adults now take advantage of girls having confusion about their 'gender' in the preteen/teen years.
>I can tell you right now that show was meant to have a subtextual homosexual relationship.I'm aware which is why I said in my post about it that I got why they were shipping Hannibal characters. Then I went on to mention a bunch of other media properties where there was no subtextual gay relationship at all and people were still doing it, or raging out (as in Elementary) that a potentially 'subtextually gay' character (Watson) was genderswapped to be female. I actually think subtextual romance is just fine, I don't mind it at all, but the huge influx of 'gay men' (obvious women/girls) who lash out and attack anyone in review comments on TV shows/movies who believe the relationships in them to be platonic is concerning, and what's even more concerning is how those same girls/women weaponize homophobia accusations (despite obviously being straight), lash out at fleshed-out female characters, and even lash out at media made by actual gay men as 'truly homophobic' kek. There's obviously a pathology there which I tried to demonstrate with my examples (from Hannibal where the 'ship' seems legitimate, all the way to gay art films where TIFs chimp out that they're too 'objectifying' despite being actual gay moids' portrayals of gay relationships).
Remember this is the gender ideology hate thread, not the fujo infight thread or whatever. I'm not coming for fujos here as it's not even on-topic for the thread, I'm trying to understand the phenom of women who are into this media literally thinking that they are gay males, chopping their breasts off and going on testosterone.
No. 2524312
>>2524304I never thought you were coming for fujos? I was explaining why you're seeing all the infighting over shit that doesn't seem romantic at all to you.
I did super misread that part about Hannibal, sorry. I thought you were saying there were weird undertones so you didn't care about the shipping even though there were weird undertones.
>Maybe I'm just hanging out on different parts of the internetI think you are hanging out on parts of the internet that are considerably more "online" if that makes sense. Normies in general find BL repulsive, I've seen many straight men say they'd rather jump off a bridge than kiss a man kek. Also, for the backlash against women's fiction, see the entire 50 Shades of Grey incident. Was it a shit book, yes, were people annoying about it, yes. But women as a whole were mocked for the cultural phenomenon of one shitty book, and this continues to happen today.
>It would not really annoy me if it wasn't for the constant homophobia accusations>larping of male gay identity by women (complete with constant homophobia allegations) that confuses me in this instance>why does it make women think they are gay moids?I feel like I explained these things already? So I'm not sure where else to take this or what to say.
They don't THINK they're moids, they WANT TO BE moids. Anon in the last thread was talking about tifs who came in to participate in studies, and every one of them would write "F" as their sex instead of "M".
They troon out and say they're gay so they can escape misogyny and enjoy their coomslop the same way men get to. I don't know how much clearer I can be, sorry? Unless you're asking about their internal thought process. In that case, you should visit the hidden board and read the dysphoria thread.
No. 2524315
>>2524285>another screenshot of r/MtF that boils down to 'actually hatred of pedophilia is queerphobic' from some troon moidWhat's interesting to me is there have been cases in the past of gay men being attacked by their communities as "pedophiles" for their orientations. I've read that this was pretty much always a false allegation to get the homosexual male arrested or killed, but I don't know true statistics obviously.
What's funny to me is troons have taken from another marginalized community once again. You aren't faggots getting stoned for being faggots, you're disgusting men being predatory and fighting for your right to expose your penis to young children in changing rooms while retweeting loli porn and grooming minors on discord. Get fucking real.
>because it's not like TIMs are actually doing any cart pulling, even briefly as a LARPKekk you're 100% right, whoever made the edit should have had the TIM's hands on his own chest instead.
I will get that goose image into a thread pic someday,
nonny, don't you worry!
No. 2524317
>>2524312But my point was not that people are infighting over whether something is romantic or not, my point was that obvious straight women are calling people (including actual homosexuals) 'homophobic' for not seeing the same gay male subtext they see, and it seems like a very bizarre form of social contagion. The TIFs I know personally are for the most part either lesbian or enby, so I'm trying to wrap my head around the psychology of the type of straight TIF who seems so obsessed with gay romance that she has convinced herself she, herself, is a gay man and can even attack actual gay men for the way they represent themselves in their own media.
>They don't THINK they're moids, they WANT TO BE moids. For me in the troonism context these seem like the same picture. Of course I think no troon really believes deep down they are the opposite sex, but they present themselves as such and want other people to socially play along. The fact that many young women now are attacking other people (including actual gay moids) about being 'homophobic' just for observing something closer to the actual reality (where most moids are not gay, as you yourself astutely pointed out) and come at it from the perspective of 'I am a gay male, so I would know, and you are offending me' is actually really hard to wrap your mind around as a normie woman. I understand AGPs more because I know that moids tend to be creepy fetishistic freaks and I know they take perverse pleasure in pushing past women's boundaries, but I don't really understand the psychology of a girl or woman who declares that she is male and makes being a 'gay male' a large chunk of her identity when I'm assuming most of these girls/women are not nearly as porn-rotted.
>enjoy their coomslop the same way men get to. You can do that without trooning out and taking on a homosexual identity when you are straight. For AGP men the motivation for trooning out is obvious. For straight TIFs, not so much, I think? I have read some of the dysphoria posts on the hidden board and on some of the /ot/ threads and I still don't really 'get it.'
No. 2524327
>>2524320Oh my god, how did I totally forget about NAMBLA. It's still insane to me that they got so loud.
>there were many prominent pedo activists and pedos at the top of WPATH, Mermaids, etc.Nevermind, pedophilia is just a natural part of sexuality for a significant portion of moids OR it's less about "attraction to minors" specifically and more about being sexually aroused by violating somebody. I do recall a portion of troons are really into "groomer" fetishes and such. I'm going to link something disgusting,
(This is a link to the BAD FETISH ART THREAD.)
>>>/m/371896An anon explained what this fetish is, I'm going to quote her here and then link the post for anons who don't want to see their degeneracy.
>These men get off to exposing children to porn as young as possible to become addicted. There's a genre of edited artwork with pedo captions. I've been online for half my life and seen all kinds of degen shit, but this is almost worse because it's a call to action instead of a bunch of coomers in their own bubble.>>>/m/387929I think what's missing from popular understanding of troons is they would not have trooned out if they weren't severely mentally ill, and for a majority of TIMs, their symptoms include having fetishes like this one.
No. 2524330
>>2524327>just a natural part of sexuality for a significant portion of moids OR it's less about "attraction to minors" specifically and more about being sexually aroused by violating somebody. I think pedophilia is always about being sexually aroused by violating somebody. It is not evolutionarily/biologically natural to be attracted to non-adults as an adult, since it is not reproductively useful. The moid obsession with violating children is an obsession with violation, at its core, not an 'attraction.' No one is genuinely sexually attracted to children. It's a paraphilia/fetish, usually semi-deliberately induced.
The reason this particular paraphilia/mentality is so common among troons is the same reason they are troons in the first place - they get off on boundary violations. If they didn't get off on boundary violations they wouldn't be troons. The final frontier of boundary violation is violating/corrupting children, who are supposed to be (in almost everyone's eyes) innocent and inviolable.
No. 2524342
>>2524330I do agree with what you've said here, but I ultimately had these beliefs about men who will sleep with (rape) minors without being exclusively pedophiles. So do you believe that "pedophilia" isn't a "true" orientation in the sense that no man is actually attracted to children? I've spoken to people who work with these demographics and the topic has come up, and they do believe there are people who experience a true attraction to those who are underdeveloped/undeveloped. Usually due to events in childhood that leave them mentally or sexually stunted, or unfortunately being born disordered like a schizophrenic is.
I fully agree with your second paragraph, though. I wish I could make everyone understand this particular reality about troons.
No. 2524346
>>2524342I know that some of the people who work with incarcerated populations are taken in by (what I believe to be) their lies and truly try to empathize with them/take them at their word, but no, I do not believe it's possible for pedophilia to be an actual sexual orientation - true sexual attraction to children is essentially biologically impossible, and even if attraction to 16-year-olds is possible there is no reason for it to be stronger than/supercede attraction to women at their actual prime - and I don't believe that pedophilia is the result of 'mental stunting due to trauma' either. There are multiple studies showing that the moids who claim their pedophilia is a result of past sexual trauma are just blatantly lying for sympathy. People who work with these demographics are capable of being manipulated by them because a lot of the people in question are psychopaths and other manipulative types of moid. Men can meme themselves into being attracted to practically anything (feet, specific clothing items, etc.) but those are paraphilias and that's not the same thing as true sexual attraction or an orientation.
No pedophile is 'exclusively' a pedophile. They are all attracted to and will sleep with adults. The pedo shit is just more thrilling to them because it's a more severe taboo and a more severe violation. It's a subset of the moids who get off on rape.
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>>2523821>>2523847bringing over a topic from the previous thread but it's genuinely insane how much of a death cult gender ideology is, especially seeing these types of "my parents are disowning me pls give money for my titchop" posts that mainly come from children and teens.
it's such a stark contrast to actual lgb communities, where you're warned not to come out if it poses a risk, and even then these types found safe houses or lived in close-knit groups if worst came to worst. meanwhile the whole trans process is basically
>immediately tell people even if it's risky>threaten suicide if they don't sign you up for hrt ASAP>if unsuccessful, beg for money online >never listen to anything negative about transitioning even from medical professionals i know a lot of these kids are likely spoiled brats but it's still disturbing to see families virtually be torn apart and kids victimising themselves because they got groomed into thinking they're super speshul and will die young. that stat gendies like to throw around to garner sympathy
and donations about their low average life expectancy isn't even about them, it's about brasilian transvestite prostitutes. gender ideology at its core is about perpetual victimhood.
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I know that this is a stunt but sometimes I wonder how many artists are doing this for clout. Notice how, in theory, man and woman include troons but the focus is on mostly tifs (think about nonbinary, tell me which comes to mind first)and gendies. I wonder how many people fake that shit, like Chappell Roan, I wonder how many do not agree but have to fake this stuff, I wonder how is profitable to cather to them, because they're a fraction and this graphic even shows it, but everyone seems to kiss their asses and careers would fall over this. I'm seeing a modern fascist regime but maybe I'm a bit too paranoid.
No. 2524397
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>>2524383I can't stand BBNO$. He really tapped into that TIF-infueled softboy genre.
No. 2524456
>>2524443Idk what the bill is in the EU but countries that have already passed such laws define anything other than active affirmation and instant medicalization as 'conversion therapy' for troons. So basically, the only possible option whenever you so much as suspect a patient has genderfeels is to say they're the opposite sex, and anything else (like delaying hormones to figure out whether they are a CSA
victim, are depressed or autistic, etc) is strictly illegal.
No. 2524480
This debate between Meghan Murphy and Some Horrifying Serial Killer Looking Hon at a Canadian university got posted in the /snow/ thread but it's not milky so I wanted to crosspost here. The debate itself is pretty uh run-of-the-mill (Meghan Murphy making the standard GC/radfem arguments pretty concisely and calmly while the troon says 'gender is uh… it's uh… complex' as his 'definition of terms' and then talks about all the science proving that troons have lady brains for real. But the most interesting part imo is the Q&A both with the panelists and the audience - the GNC female probably gender studies prof or whatever is tasked with summarizing the troon's main arguments and keeps saying 'yeah I don't understand, sorry, it isn't clear to me, sorry, I didn't quite grasp…' while trying to do his 'arguments' justice while the aggro, on-the-verge-of-tears compsci moid pretends he understood Meghan's argument but summarizes it wrongly and keeps ragging on how she doesn't want any legal protections for GNC people or troons against hate crimes or job discrimination or whatever.
Then right from jump during the audience Q&A, the most perfect example of male and female socialization imaginable, aggro bald bearded moid seething and shaking with rage tries to gish gallop Meghan and immediately starts screaming over her as she tries to answer his 'question' (more like 15 statements) after she embarrasses him by asking what a woman is and he says
>"woman is a noun"
and then freezes, face trembling, like a deer in the headlights for a solid 10 seconds before starting to screech and chimp out again. Directly followed by girl who passive aggressively talks in a slowed-down baby voice to both panelists, compliments the troon moid's ghastly serial killer smile and then asks about third genders 'that existed on turtle island before pre-contact' kek. Just perfect show of male and female socialization in both the facilitators and the audience members, bravo.
Of course since this is a Canadian university there needed to be about a 10 minute interlude with people arguing back and forth about whether they feel comfortable being filmed and snapping their fingers a lot, but you can skip that part and go straight to the Q&A to see the moid's chimpout. It's sad that this is one of only two 'debates' like this I've ever seen because the troon gets so thoroughly destroyed so easily by very simple arguments. There's probably a reason troons don't debate terfs anymore kek.
No. 2524494
>>2524480That bald guy is insufferable. 'You underestimate how much people want into the women's bathroom'
No, sir, you underestimate the depravity of men to get to vulnerable women for the sake of coom. If they can have easy access to women legally? They will absolutely push for it and endure so called 'violence and hardships' if it means sexual access to women. So these clowns just forget about the men who made their own diy urinals and portapotties to get covered in strangers piss and excrement for the sake of coom??? And this isn't just twice, this is a few times. Men are so fucking clueless or they're just being willfully ignorant of how disgusting their sex is when it comes to gooner culture. Or just both.
No. 2524618
>>2524397He's doing this because otherwise he'd be seen as a Jack Harlow or Lil Dicky. Yet another joke-y white rapper who can't seem to decide if he wants to be an edgeless Slim Shady or a shitty YouTube comedian.
Pandering to troons is in the rulebook of talentless musicians. Just look at "I really can't fucking sing" Jordaan Mason.
No. 2524627
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No. 2524639
>>2524633I think that he's observant about your body, hair and the way you act in general.
A old friend from middle and high school trooned out and one of the most disgusting things he did was licking my hair…
No. 2524640
>>2524627Kekkkk thanks for reposting this, it's one of my favorite images because I always get a laugh when I get to the bottom.
>>2524639I would have slapped that faggot. My god. I'm sorry, nona.
No. 2524644
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>>2524638>when you're a tranny and never stopped being a poltard, but black women still have what you will never get: Two X chromosomes.Troons are too funny. They want so bad to drag different groups of people down to their level so that they can socially hold people hostage through a "if I don't get respect then X group of people can't have respect either!" train of logic. The fact that they think they can just say "well black women aren't women either" just goes to show how they fundamentally don't understand sex and gender in the first place. Your sex is your biology, being male or female. Your gender is the construct that society
bases on your sex to help people identify what you even are. So what is a woman? An adult human female. Black women are adult human females, therefore are women. Trannies are biological males. They are not women. It's really that easy.
No. 2524651
>>2524639To add onto that point in my experience it's not really them being observant but rather if they start nitpicking it there's a very good chance when they drink the troon juice they will copy your appearance. I've had this happen often enough at this point if I had pennies for everytime that happened, I'd be a financial institution that could rival JP Morgan.
Also what the fuck that's gross
No. 2524658
>>2524644Troons love to talk about "decolonizing" this and "listen to Black women" that, but little do they fucking know that Black women have always been deemed female; it's just that they weren't deemed human. That's the fucking difference.
When the US made it illegal to abduct Africans for the purposes of enslavement, slave masters "had" to rely on their existing stock… or make new ones. These slave owners knew exactly who to rape for the purposes of making more slaves. These enslaved women didn't identify as women, as feminine, or any of that nonsense. They simply lived in an unfortunate reality in which they were deemed equivalent to fucking cattle and sheep because of their skin color.
No. 2525014
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whoopsies
No. 2525364
>>2524456In Italy we had "DDL Zan" which was basically a self ID bill carefully masked as an anti homophobia law.
In Italy, homophobia laws are not required since homosexuals are not considered lesser than any other people nor are persecuted, they have the same rights as everyone, meaning that if you beat up a straight person and a homosexual person, you can go to jail for the same exact crime. The society is starting to open up for gay marriages, which we have but on the lesser side, meaning that some rights are missing (iirc adopting kids of the partner + inheritance) but we are going into fixing that. When the DDL Zan didn't pass through, our governement applauded, like full standing up and clapped. I know that they clapped because they're mostly middle aged men and voted that out of bigotry without actually understanding what the fuck was going on like your average american republican, but I sighed so deeply when this bullshit bill didn't pass. No, troons, you want to be women so bad? Actually commit and castrate yourself.
No. 2525399
>>2525014Obligatory listen to trans people post
Sad that her YT is mostly bombed, at least she seems to be happy terfing out on twt
No. 2525637
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It’s crazy how many families you can observe being destroyed through the circlejerk that is r/mtf. The troons in the comments ALWAYS tell the OP to burn his relationship with his supportive family members over nothing because they’re “transphobic.” It’s literally a cult.
>picrel
So a middle schooler doesn’t want to get bullied by his peers if his autistic older brother shows up to his graduation in ill-fitted fetish gear. Instead of empathizing with this reasonable and understandable request, the troons in the comments encourage OP to just not go to his brother’s graduation. So fucking narcissistic.
Edit: sorry for the repost, had to fix typos.
No. 2525732
>>2525701I dont think "moid" is lc slang. An ib created to make fun of female lolcows is not the inventor of basic man hate slurs.
I hear those the terms moid, scrote and troon everywhere. Its one thing if they are using terms like farmer or miner that directly refer to LC, but i think generalist slurs might not even be from farmers. Just more and more people peaking and tired of trannies.
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Yep she is still rich as fuck, still got tons of cash to support women's rights with.
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>>2525701KEK this is how it feels whenever gendies claim that moid is LC slang
No. 2525882
>>2525869>libfems get angry when you use slurs towards malesNot my problem. I was using moid before lc and I'll keep using moid.
Ill call them wursties and use the banana chart too. I hate males and I hate troons.
No. 2525886
>>2525768Why would it be damaged? If anything troon worshipping is shit for buisness. Just look at what happened with bud light.
Harry Potter was never for trannies. It was for normies.
No. 2525904
>>2525882Stacey
>>2525886TRAs have convinced themselves that JKR is some has been because they are delusional. Hope the news make them seethe
No. 2525933
>>2525927Never engaged with HP media before but i liked it a lot,
also had a really cute guy named sebastian in it who i still like feels good that i got a fun 30 hours of gameplay and supported the
terf queen too
No. 2525984
>>2525768Based
>billionaire>dv survivor and advocate>actively donates to women’s causes They hate her because they thought she would bow down at their bullshit and violence , they wanted her to be the “mother of trannies”, many retards are into HP heavily and so many of them are trannies, hence why the vitriol against her. You don’t see them hating Ricky Gervais the same way.
No. 2526003
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Gender ideology is a walking contradiction, how do people even take it seriously?
No. 2526005
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>>2526003They just want to always be right no matter what.
No. 2526008
>>2525913yes, if you willingly join a hobby that's 99.9% some flavor of troon even if most of that is just they/shes then please shut up and lie so those of us who are just here for occasional sperging and content don't have to be scared someone is going to dig through their dms for evidence of being a
terf. you don't gain anything from breaking out of crypto in troon spaces, you just get cannibalized and thrown out. good for you if that's a noble goal but it makes it tougher for the rest of us to navigate them
No. 2526020
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TIMS on Reddit: Being aroused by femininity, submissiveness, humiliation, and hating my dick means I’m a woman, and any thing that validates my internal feeling of women should be acceptable and even honored for me to consume. Meanwhile TIFs on Tumblr when someone wants to draw gay cowboys:
No. 2526042
>>2525701If this happens to you then you just play it off as another friend (not in those circles) using it all the time and you didn't even know where it came from. Say you'll ask her where she got it, and get back hours later at the earliest. Use fake screenshots or ask a
terf friend for help in faking a convo where they also claim "it's just internet slang from like reddit and twitch"
But also if you see it from someone else - girl back them up! Say you've also seen it on random sites and you've neeever been on some weird transphobic site like lc. Act surprised that people are even bringing it up because you see moid used all the time these days.
No. 2526050
>>2526037AYRT, yeah both are retarded but I'll take 1,000 essays on how
problematic two white guys buttfucking each other is over a post about how molesting little girls is a basic moid right
No. 2526051
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>>2526008>man/troonhaters you're cringe, shut upNice try
No. 2526192
>>2526047It's not (in most cases) stupidity, it's cognitive dissonance/deliberate manipulation. Actually the more intelligent and educated someone is the better they typically are at post-hoc rationalizations and motivated reasoning/enforcing cognitive dissonance upon themselves. This is why low grade retarded people, dogs and young children always clock troons no matter what because they don't have the level of cognitive sophistication to know that they're 'supposed' to pick up on random arbitrary non-biological cues about 'gender.' This is also why troon arguments got more and more self-contradictory and insane as time went on, because some TRA/genderist thinkers are actually pretty smart and educated and they managed to feed each other increasingly sophisticated points (that are self-contradictory) without noticing the internal contradictions. They don't want to notice the contradictions, so they don't.
>>2526051Even if someone thinks it's cringe I would rather be cringe than dishonest. Most good things are cringe to a certain degree. Trying really hard at something is cringe. Creating really sincere, personal art is cringe. Telling the truth when social convention says it's impolite to tell the truth is cringe. I don't think people should aim to be cringe on purpose but people also shouldn't get discouraged from doing good things because they're cringe. I think it's more cringe to use troons' chosen language in public than to use tumblr radfem language about them, at least one is honest.
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>hsts gets murdered by ape boyfriend
>somehow this is terf's fault
No. 2526239
>>2526233tbh it feels like chasers are more "transphobic" than terfs. HSTS are gay men who want the straight scrote douchebags that gay bashed them when they were in middle school. It's so embarrassing.
No troons, we don't want you dead, we want you out of our spaces. It's not our fault you fucking retards keep encouraging one another to "go stealth" and try to form intimate relationships with people who aren't attracted to your natal sex.
No. 2526258
>>2526246tbh I don't think these fuckers CAN listen. They are men, gay men. Not just any gay men, but misogynist gay moids of the highest order. They hate women. They hate "pretty" women because those women get the straight scrotes they want and are accepted by society. And they hate "ugly" women because they feel like they squandered their chance at societal acceptance. They generally feel like they HAVE to be hookers.
First off, being a tranny is EXPENSIVE. Maybe it can be cheap for a fetishogre AGP skinwalker who just steals his sisters panties, but for the troons who want to pass and stealth, they need a shitload of money for their horsepiss on top of enough cosmetic surgery to make even the most botched bippie blush. They need additional surgeries, not just the boob jobs and botox. They need FFS, SSR, and other weirdo shit that not even the most insecure of natal women even dreams of. And thats if it all goes off without a hitch.
What the fuck kind of jobs can these dumb scrotes do? They have completely fucked their endocrine system. HSTS troon out younger so their bodies might even be more fucked up than normal. They literally did this shit to themselves for coom. So of course they are going to become prostitutes.
They cry transphobia but they fucking did this shit to themselves. They could have lived as as their true self (effeminite gay moid), accepted that finding a serious partner in a patriarchal society is hard, had literally the same amount of casual sex with bi moids or just stop seeking validation in scrotes since men are fucking subhumans anyways.
Idfk I gave up on playing mommy to these bedicked monsters a long time ago
No. 2526310
>>2526258AYRT and yeah there is absolutely no point at all in playing mommy to them. Like you said they hate us, and when we describe our problems as women they think they're jealous of those problems and would have much happier lives if they had them instead of their terrible, life-destroying moid problems. We could tell them how to avoid fucking themselves over but we're the last people they would ever listen to, so I'm not going to coddle them and I'm DEFINITELY not going to take any credit for the bad consequences they bring on themselves. I used to have actual sympathy for these scrotes but I just can't sympathize anymore.
>>2526289>Nah you're giving them way too much credit imo. Yes and no. Many trans sympathizers and trannies are dumb as bricks and just repeating thought-terminating cliches like their life depends on it because they want to be nice (TRAs) or coom (troons themselves) but the reason these views have been popularized to the degree they have is because of intelligent, educated people popularizing them. Intellectuals in academia are the main people to originally come up with most of these troon arguments and most of the most ardent TRAs are people who have been college educated specifically. Even this argument:
>"have you ever opened a history/biology book past high school??"is one they like to make specifically because they went to college and want to punch down on people they think didn't.
>They realize they're full of shit Sadly in many cases I don't think that's true. Maybe on a deeper level they do, but like I said, many of the most ardent transactivists (the ones who actually participate in debates, write mainstream media articles and books, etc) are just relatively intelligent/educated people who are very very good at rationalizing their nonsense positions. Many of them are also postmodernists, and postmodernists don't believe there is objective truth and don't believe in logic. So they rationalize that their arguments being illogical doesn't actually make them weaker arguments. Almost none of them, smart or stupid, try to make anything coherent out of their arguments, because their goal isn't truth or a logically coherent argument, it's winning over the evil TERFs and conservatards.
>Also, just because educated people care about not offending trannies doesn't mean they don't clock them as fast as children, dogs and retards.Not necessarily, no, but at least they usually have the self-restraint to pretend. Some people manage to pretend so hard they actually believe they aren't seeing what they're actually seeing. People who aren't invested in feeling smart and enlightened don't bother.
>I don't think educated and intelligent are always synonymous.I don't either, but both intellect and education have been shown to lead to more effective rationalization of bad arguments and more motivated reasoning. So either one, or a combination of the two.
No. 2526382
>>2526377AYRT and sorry, to clarify, I wasn't saying that most TRAs/troons aren't stupid. I meant that most of the arguments they parrot don't come from a 'low intelligence' place, the stupid ones are parroting arguments that are usually made by significantly more intelligent people who also don't care about coherence of thought or logic. There's usually a pretty small group of people 'inventing' common TRA talking points and then huge armies of people just repeating those arguments, more or less faithfully, but the arguments themselves are clever in a specific way. If you look at people like Neil Degrasse Tyson (who is constantly bootlicking troons), a lot of people follow him and look up to him and believe him because he has an advanced degree in a fancy, important-sounding field and he says things in a way that makes them seem 'above the level' of normal average people. Actually NDT also just parrots common troon arguments himself (he is retarded about almost everything and is a grifter), but the power of the arguments themselves is that people absolutely love these 'esoteric' types of arguments that make them feel like they have access to some special, forbidden knowledge.
Ironically this is also why most people who don't have graduate degrees 'look up to' people with graduate degrees so much. They think you go to grad school and get access to forbidden, esoteric knowledge they themselves can't access. In reality most people who go to grad school have access to the exact same knowledge everyone else has access to, and in many cases graduate students don't even attend 'lectures' by profs much, the classes are seminar-style. What they actually do in grad school is usually just force you to access and think about all the available knowledge and resources more than most people do. You're supposed to prove that you can wade through all that shit and think critically about it. But many normies don't think about it that way, they feel smart and special when a person with a PhD tells them something and they feel like they can sorta grasp it and now they know a special thing other normies like themselves don't know.
>When TRAs mock people for having a high school level understanding of sex (supposedly), I don't think they're implying that they have a master's degree in biologyNo, indeed, but what they are implying is that they just are so deep and full of intellectual curiosity that they have listened to people who DO have a master's degree in biology and they now know what those really smart people know. Unlike their dumb cousins who just stopped learning about biology when they graduated high school and still think there's two sexes. The more bizarre a claim is (like that there's more than two sexes), the more fanciful and wonderful it feels to believe the claim and parrot 'arguments' for the claim. When stupid people run up against a counterargument they say 'it's not my job to educate you' because they know they don't have sufficient context for or evidence for the claim, but they deeply believe the person (like NDT) who they originally heard it from DOES know. When more intelligent people run up against a counterargument, they just find a way to rationalize their way around it, no matter how ridiculous the rationalization is. You can see this whenever you ask someone highly educated why transgenderism makes sense but transrace or transage doesn't.
>I just don't think that the parroting masses are particularly bright people at all. I agree with you for the most part, but there's also a fairly significant subset of them who are 'bright,' just not in the right way. They probably have high verbal intelligence, a high ability to memorize, and many of the things that make you get a good score on an IQ test. They probably could think logically if they wanted to. But they waste all their cognitive potential on trying to argue weird impossible shit for their own self-aggrandizement instead of actually trying to learn or reason their way through things, and that's actually a very common way for 'smart' people to be stupid.
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>>2524480God these trannies are so dramatic.
>without medical treatment to become a tranny i WoUlDnT hAvE sUrViVeD tO aDuLthOoD!!!The comments are based, kek
No. 2526417
>>2526392They can't answer the question themselves but they think they're intellectually superior to GC feminists so it never even crosses their minds that some people actually can answer the question kek. Also with not recognizing that 'a woman is a woman' is tautological but 'a woman is female' is not. There is an actual non-tautological definition for female, females exist in many other species including plants. The 'biologically educated' ones seem to have forgotten this middle school level biology though.
>>2526397I don't get how people aren't embarrassed to say this. Like 'I would have killed myself if I hadn't gotten my way and had all these plastic surgeries and forced people to use the words I want!' Embarrassing. That alone should disqualify you from your opinion ever being respected, at least until you own your own stupidity and admit you were suicidal for no good reason and have grown from that.
>>2526400Which one? The one posted in the last thread didn't even have FtMs, it just had a bunch of MtFs who looked exactly like the 'male' graph kek.
No. 2526423
>>2526410I know where you're coming from nonna and I too think 'high IQ' people who lack rationality and the ability to think critically are actually stupid/midwits, but I think it's a little bit dangerous to write these people/ideologies off as just sheer low-IQ stupidity. You're going to have a hard time convincing almost everyone in modern academia that Derrida, Foucault, Butler, etc. were all low-IQ retards. People become very attached to the intellectual trash they pay 100k to study in university even if it is (mostly) garbage. Like you said, the people initially forming the arguments for troons have great persuasive skills and are very good at evading blows from their intellectual opponents (as we can see, because genderism is very institutionally popular and has a lot of power behind it while GC feminism is relatively powerless and reviled). If we were only going off of logic and rationality alone TRA logic would never have survived one hour but it's survived decades and gotten stronger to the point that most of our institutions are completely captured by it. I don't think we should underestimate the cleverness and slipperiness of our opponents even if you and I both know their arguments are incredibly stupid.
>The current issue with academia though is that political correctness and specific agendas take precedence over integrity, objectivity and even the correct application of the scientific method.Entirely true, but sadly most people who haven't been in academia themselves don't know/believe this. I find that faith in the intellectual superiority of 'academia' is inversely correlated with actual experience in academia kek. Now we're trapped in a catch-22 where if you tell people 'don't bother going to university honestly' they'll accuse you of being an anti-intellectual who wants to dumb down society and take away people's opportunities to grow, but if you say 'yes go to college' the populace will in large part become dumber and more brainwashed. It's a rough situation.
No. 2526505
>>2526233Why blame terfs when it's the people who "love" them who kill them? A
terf has never killed a troon.
No. 2526516
>>2526399>"It's complex" THEN EXPLAIN IT! I'm tired of activists talking in circlesIt's wild how trannyism is the
only type of "science" with special privileges that allows it to get away with this shit. If a zoologist tried to redefine the meaning of "lizard" based on "I just FEEL like it's inaccurate", or a chemist tried to say it was morally wrong to distinguish between acids and alkalines, they'd be considered lunatics. Meanwhile tranny activists can advocate for butchering children because "it's complicated and if I'll be sad if you don't let me" and they'll receive standing ovations kek
No. 2526529
>>2526527They will sure try, or claim the Australian Aboriginals didn't believe in binary biological sex and didn't actually know how to reproduce because that's a colonial imposition, or say there were trans surgeries in Ancient Rome. Whatever it takes. Meanwhile they crytype on reddit about how their girlfriend's dog is a
TERF kek. I guess you need to inform the dog about the whole spectrum of dog genders too.
No. 2526545
>>2526541To be fair, almost everyone on lolcow. But that post was a bit much even for lolcow
>oh no all my troon friends on my troon discord might figure out I'm a terf because someone else said moid and now they're combing through my DMsOh no?
No. 2526550
>>2526399>Kai DecadenceWow, blast from the past
>>2526417As someone who
akchully does have a master’s in biology, one or my favourite crypto ways to rile up gendies and MRAs in my vicinity is to sperg out about biological mechanisms involving the sexes in non-human animals and plants. I’m the only biologist these people know so they ask me a lot of questions, especially the kids. Just for fun I like to drive home how relatively useless, annoying or downright parasitic males often are kek (fucking pollen).
Also explaining about the differences in investment that males and females inherently and universally put into their offspring often opens up a door to feminist discussion that “both sides” or antifeminist types can’t refute. I’ve had so many interesting conversations about maternal/paternal imprinting, female mate choice, male ‘resource’ hoarding (where the ‘resources’ are females), etc. Why do lionesses tolerate male lions hanging around when they barely participate in the hunt yet eat so much of the meat the females bring back? Protection? Well, protection from what? Other male lions? Oh you mean like a protection racket? Sounds like the males all ultimately benefit from other males’ violence that way. Huh.
When I’m feeling extra spicy I bring up sexual mimicry and ‘sneaky mating’. This is a real sexual strategy in the animal kingdom where some males superficially resemble females of their own species which allows them to approach actual females and mate with them without the normal males noticing and chasing them off. Sometimes they even let other males ‘mate’ with them to maintain the disguise. Golly, isn’t it crazy how many wild strategies males across species have evolutionarily developed to gain access to females? Good thing humans are nothing like birds! Haha ha… ha… (This one’s especially funny to trot out when you know the people listening are proponents of the “well some fish are sequential hermaphrodites so TWAW” argument.)
>looked exactly like the 'male' graphExcuse you I seem to remember it was
pink>>2526423>I find that faith in the intellectual superiority of 'academia' is inversely correlated with actual experience in academia kekVery true. And if they do have experience in academia but still prop up the illusion of infallible intellectual ivory tower superiority that’s a strong tell that they’re exactly the kind of bullshit artists you’re talking about.
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>>2526550I have a PhD in a bio-related field but troon sympathizers I talk to do not give a shit and do not want to hear about any science related to sex differences in that context, they legit just shut down and cover their ears and screech about transphobia so you're lucky you can get as far in the conversation as female mate choice or sexual mimicry kek. You could literally be Charles Darwin himself and these people would just go 'uhh you're not up to date with the newest DATA about how scientists have just discovered there's a whole spectrum of sexes' because of that one case study of a woman having three successful pregnancies and then discovering she is gonadally part male (due to mosaicism kek) that ended up making it into SciAm. Funny they never mention that she had a successful natural pregnancy at age 46 because they have to keep believing women's eggs all dry up at 29. Yes and the sequential hermaphrodite fish and also amoebas prove there is a whole spectrum of sexes in nature!
>Excuse you I seem to remember it was pinkLol, I also noticed this when I first saw the graph. Very sneaky of them.
>And if they do have experience in academia but still prop up the illusion of infallible intellectual ivory tower superiority that’s a strong tell that they’re exactly the kind of bullshit artists you’re talking about.Yeah, a lot of people with philosophy or arts degrees will try to pass themselves off as academics in such a way that people believe they're scientists, and if they're actual (ex) scientists like Julia Serano they're just straight-up grifters who use any weird edge case
Deleted to add an example (picrel), this moid with a philosophy degree who literally wrote his thesis about how bullshitting is good actually in the right context (no I'm not kidding), but he later started touting himself as the preeminent scholar of transwomen in sports (because he was one himself and won multiple competitions). People obviously would assume from this that he is some kind of physiologist or sports scientist, and cite him widely as a scientist.
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>>2526570Picrel is the first example (of many) I could find of him actually claiming, in writing, that he's an expert on the science of troons in sports, from this CBC article:
https://www.cbc.ca/playersvoice/entry/its-fair-for-trans-women-to-compete-in-womens-sportHere is another article about an actual sports scientist who also did 'the largest study (at the time) on transwomen in sports' - 10 to 20 participants! - and guess what? He's a troon too kek.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/trans-athletes-performance-transition-research-1.5183432 No. 2526586
>>2525637Check his post history again in few months. He'll probably complain about his little brother (and family) slowly growing distant because they're "transphobic" and "literally
abusive."
No. 2526619
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>>2526236>>2526266they're not as horrible as AGPs, but they are misogynistic in an incredibly bitchy gay moid way "men can fuck us without a condom and we won't get periods or get pregnant" then some misogynistic stereotypes about women
No. 2526631
>>2526619>can't have sex on periodlol what?
>but it's great to fuck a troon because you don't have to use a condom when you stick your dick in my poopy anus and/or festering gaping fistula woundso a little bit of period blood is too scary but your shit and pus/gangrenous rotting flesh from your neovag is supposed to be super appealing
>also I can play basketball with you!kek yes men famously dream of the day their gf will finally be a worthy opponent in basketball
>and also I'm a kinky freak that won't judge your porn addiction, philandering and snuff fetishand then they freak out when the scrotes who date/sleep with them end up being violent freaks and blame it on women
No. 2526777
>>2526619Remember that hsts are able to be as misogynistic as they want and list off every misogynistic stereotype about women on the planet because they're just allowed to, okay? It's affirming for them and they might kill themselves if they don't. Criticizing this makes me an unreasonable regressive
terf that wants a tranny genocide or something, probably
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Gonna be a bit of a blog without images of the incident, sorry this exchange just stood out to me. Got banned from a fandom discord server for asking “if sex and gender are two different things, why do you try to use gender to access sex segregated things like sports”. Got a timeout and the moid mod said “I think she needs a biiig timeout” despondently all 1900s anti suffrage scrote pet speak-like. All the lefty nerdy moids had a meltdown. And no one ever answered my question
Said that a lot of working class people, normies, don’t believe in using gender to intrude on single sex things, and got answered
>isn’t it funny how most working class people are bigots?
Displaying how genderists have basically zero allianceship class-wise, it’s either their privileged academia ideology or nothing at all.
Kill all men and total tranny death.
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>>2525921She is beautiful inside out. The Times did an interview with her because of the rich list. It's mainly about her charities and barely any mention of troonery. Focusing on the good she is doing for once, well done media.
https://www.thetimes.com/article/57517aad-3f54-4ad3-b868-881ae49f5935?shareToken=b73840425c6cf276f404f74f00533c55 No. 2526826
>>2526619what is up with this pandemic of moids who honestly believes our vaginas close up when we mensutrate?
>noooo I will get blood on my penor!!!But for some reason putting their dick in a rectum doesn't ick them out?
No. 2526845
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>>2526619>>2526258One of the biggest differences I've found between apgs and hss is who they're jealous of. hsts are jealous of women because they want to be like us, so they can attract straight men. agps, on the other hand, are jealous of men, specifically attractive men. They have this pseudo-misandry that's really just incel jealousy of the type of men that most women are attracted to. They always try to paint it as progressive (like picrel) but it's pretty obvious once you realize it.
No. 2526919
>>2526785>Got banned from a fandom discord server for asking “if sex and gender are two different things, why do you try to use gender to access sex segregated things like sports”.I've literally been saying this since before I even peaked! If you engage with their arguments seriously they don't hold up and it's genuinely so confusing when you're trying your best to understand. Of course it's designed to not make sense, so when they say it's obvious and it's YOU who are too dumb to get it you stay quiet out of shame. A tip though, don't say things like "IF sex and gender are different…" you have to pretend that you think they totally are and accuse them of conflating the two. But the goo thing is even if you got timed out, there will be people who read it who are wondering the same, or if they weren't, now that you put the thoughts in their head they really will think "huh yeah WHY do we want access based on gender then".
Always remember that peaking is the only end state:
>A normie can become a troon/handmaiden OR they can peak.>A troon/handmaiden can't become an unknowing normie again, but they can still peak.>A peaked person can never unpeak to become an unknowing normie again, nor will they troon out because they peaked - so they can only stay peaked.The trajectory always heads towards peaking.
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>>2527046never forget that trannies are constantly literally psychotically obsessed with wanting to be able to circlejerk in their exclusive woke conservatism niche without derision or criticism
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Is almost like… People don't care about internet shit.
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>>2527293even in america, where people scream about how bad jkr is, the majority of the population doesn't care and will still happily buy and consume HP products. probably the same in the UK
No. 2527337
>>2527312Its kind of wild to me that trannies don't remember what Harry Potter was like in the 90s-2000s.
Rowling has ALWAYS had niche extremist groups who hated her. Do they really not remember how Christian fundamentalists would regularly burn her books and shit? The only thing that has changed now is the trannies are now the intolerant religious fundamentalists burning Harry Potter books.
Harry Potter is the most burned and controversial book, and it's just a silly fantasy novel for kids and teens. It makes me respect JKR even more, her rise to the top was always met with pushback and she's continued to prevail.
No. 2527355
>>2526919This is the truth. Sorry for blog but I was once an apathetic normie and then a handmaiden, I had 2 scrote friends that I genuinely liked at the time who trooned out and I wanted to be a “supportive ally”. And then I noticed how obnoxious and narcissistic these males were. Forcing themselves on lesbians, guilt-tripping women for not being “supportive enough”, the constant expected attention and ass-kissing, everyone commenting “Omfg I’m in love, absolute QUEEN
heart eyes emoji You are so gorgeous!” on a social media photo of literally an ugly man with greasy, stringy faded pink hair, wearing combat boots and a dress. And no matter how supportive you are, it’s never enough and it’s “literally killing them” and all that dramatic bullshit. And then I started peaking when I came here a few years ago and saw all of the news stories about trannies abusing women and children and how “that never happens though!” Now that I’ve peaked, that genie can never be put back in the bottle, kek
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>>2526006If it's any consolation, I used to go on SA for the tiniest amount of time. Found out this one LPer who was a regular commentator for some other LP group trooned out. The guy has a fucking baritone voice and he expects us to think he's a woman. Picrel.
No. 2527390
>>2526785>isn’t it funny how most working class people are bigots?what he means is "working class people are dumb and should not be allowed to vote" (calling them bigots is just a bit more socially acceptable for now). and these are the people who whine about fascism.. scary.
>>2527194>women needed to do the work of normalizing men in women's fashionwhen did men ever normalize something for us? i hate that shit, we're already normalizing ""dad bods"" and men being vulnerable (men still mock us for it mind you), can't they do anything for themselves. assisted pos.
>I might be talking about a closeted twanswomanlmao so it's not enough to treat trannies like
victims, now we have to do so for all men just in case they're secretly trannies. good one!
No. 2527463
>>2526785>isn’t it funny how most working class people are bigots? Duh. They actually have responsibilities like having to feed themselves/their families and pay the bills. They don't have the luxury of free time navel gazing about useless gendie shit since they have more important things in mind.
Btw, ever noticed that gendies are never from such backgrounds?
No. 2527657
>>2527390It always warms my heart to see how this type of (mostly male) 'Marxists' actually think and speak about the working and even middle class.
>"working class people are dumb and should not be allowed to vote"The funny thing is this used to be the view of the 'evil capitalists' and conservative types that these leftists said were ruining society but now they've installed themselves in the intelligentsia and upper middle classes they're perfectly fine making the exact same arguments while calling themselves socialist, Marxist, anarchist etc. Before I even peaked on gender this was the first thing that made me suspicious of TRA and SJW types. I went to an 'elite' university that had a lot of rich students and I grew up in poverty, my parents were educated but functionally poor because of major life circumstances and in my childhood did a lot of very lowbrow working class jobs which I even tagged along to as a child (maid, window cleaner, etc). I thought once I got to university I would get to hang out with all these ideologically pure, compassionate people and I noticed that due to me blending in pretty well (they loved to playact poverty and I wasn't visibly poor/lower middle class) they would let slip the wildest takes about the stupid proles, constantly. Even the 'why do blue collar people always vote against their own interests' mantra was so insulting but they would say things much more offensive than that. Troonism in the west mostly is just an extreme extension of this attitude for bored high-SES intellectual types who lack a sense of meaning in their lives because they don't have actually pressing issues. They use it as a way to seem more sophisticated and highbrow than working class people while simultaneously pretending to be more oppressed than them. It doesn't bother them that they're wasting huge amounts of money and ruining their health at a young age because they don't ever foresee having to work in manual labor jobs or deal with the type of people who won't be polite to them and use their pronouns. They snap out of it so fast, like some genderqueer multimillionaire's son I knew who openly admitted in conversations about gender presentation that he only wears skirts, heels and makeup socially and to school, but not when he had to interface with blue collar construction workers at some interior design firm or whatever he interned at, or at his own small business he ran where his clients were mostly in manufacturing.
>lmao so it's not enough to treat trannies like victims, now we have to do so for all men just in case they're secretly trannies. good one!Yeah and keep in mind this was nearly 10 years ago, before 'gender self-ID' became a widely accepted thing. Prophetic. Of course men never normalized anything for women which was why I was so forceful with him and called him sexist for asking women to do something for him when he didn't have the courage to 'be himself' by himself, but I ended up getting dogpiled as a bigot because 'it's so much harder for men to present feminine' kek. Yeah only because men see femininity as lesser-than. Be the change you want to see in the world, moid!
>>2527644I think the best jobs to avoid gendies are super normie jobs, manual labor/tradie jobs, or highly technical jobs (outside of programming/tech and academia). But the other reason unemployment might have made her go down that path is just low self-esteem paired with excessive screen time. There's a reason online school/homeschooling during COVID made so many kids troon out, the more you lose contact with the physical outside world and the fewer real responsibilities you have the more likely you are to ruminate, navel gaze, look for a form of identity outside of work/career/friends, and endlessly scroll Tiktok.
No. 2527670
>>2527657>'why do blue collar people always vote against their own interests'this take enrages me kek. rich leftists have this ridiculously out-of-touch idea of the 'marginalized' they write essays about, and they go completely mask off when they realize that the inferior classes they kindly defend don't agree with them on most social issues or don't act the way they imagined. a lot of the woke bullshit is incredibly patronizing even towards the oppressed communities they pretend to care about. it's depressing to see people just eat it up. i know democracy has become a meme online, but how are people not more shocked by the elite considering themselves enlightened, censoring dissenters, and deciding what's the
right opinion to have about something they've never been confronted to? it's easy to be pro-troon
and other things but i'm not gonna derail when you live in your own little bubble never interacting with the real world.
No. 2527673
>>2526785They always retort to anger when they can’t explain basic stuff that challenges them.
If you get called a
TERF, bigoted , bitch, or get a rape or death threat from a trans activist just know that you were right kek.
No. 2527686
>>2527670I completely agree nonna. It would be one thing if the people saying it were actually willing to listen to the people they purport to represent (like TIMs actually listening to women or lesbians for a change instead of speaking over them) and made well-reasoned arguments about why they think people vote or hold political beliefs against their interests, but most of the time I've seen them say this it's out of pure self-interest/self-aggrandizement. Look at how TRAs talk about women's issues, women's concerns, and feminism in general (not just about the troon issue but about prostitution, porn, kink, sexuality, etc.) and you can easily see that they're just using women as cover while condescendingly telling us they know better what's good for us. It's just old fashioned garden-variety misogyny. You're a prostitute who says you were raped and abused the entire time and barely managed to escape? Stupid woman, you should consider yourself lucky that you were able to be used as a sex toy for pay by so many men, your local troon Lilith would love to have that experience, and it's actually very empowering! Of course this holds for way more issues but I could write a novel if I went into all of them. Their attitude whenever the 'marginalized' groups they supposedly advocate for step out of line is just the same as a boss trying to squash a union that's forming while telling the workers they're just too stupid to understand how the exploitative work conditions benefit them. And yet it's always the small minority of activist intelligentsia who come out on top, getting paid handsomely for bullshit jobs like DEI gender sensitivity training coordinators or writing 'journalism' about how forcing lactation and breastfeeding their newborn daughter makes their peepee hard.
>how are people not more shocked by the elite considering themselves enlightened, censoring dissenters, and deciding what's the right opinion to haveI think people aren't shocked because the elite have always done this, but now that it's more obvious due to social media/the internet, there definitely is a backlash forming.
No. 2527689
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Hope the retard gets convicted. The threats they make should be taken seriously.
No. 2527719
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>>2527689Is it normal for news stories to list the perp's height/weight like that or did someone just decide to be funny
No. 2527854
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>>2526619even the men they are attracted to are the type of men that mostly gay moids find attractive, bald, big and hairy like this monkey
>>2526233 and they think that women are so jealous that those fags want to fuck them
No. 2527874
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People are arguing with op that the only reason there is a women's league is because of misogyny the same way women were kept out of universities and that the only differences between men and women are hormones and that women just need to "do better"
https://x.com/everyonnielvr/status/1917447794282860567 No. 2527890
>>2527781Omg I remember this! It was so obvious how much Trevor was NOT on board with the idea and kind of trying to convince himself. Ugh it’s like that classic fucking copypasta. There’s just something about them being juxtaposed with a normal, attractive person that highlights how uncanny and gross they are.
>>2527657>>2527670I mean to be fair yeah most lower class people are pretty stupid and vote against their own interests. It’s not their fault though. Most of them had no other choice but a piss poor education and little to no free time outside of work. At least they can say they’re stupid from their environment. Unfortunately there isn’t a way to say that sentiment that doesn’t come off as condescending or superior. The bourgeois activists you speak of are stupid by choice. Plenty of upper class people are stupid as well, but in a less intense way. What they lack in pure idiocy, they make up for in selfishness and greed. They don’t sympathize with the restrictive world of the wagie, they see the results of this closed off world as part of their nature. When if anything, if you have everything, and are still dumb and cruel…what does it say about your nature?
No. 2527951
>>2527854I don't understand this competitive idea of "stealing" men, even some pickme women subscribe to it.
Men are hornier than women, it's not difficult to gain interest from one. It's like taking pride in being able to answer 2 + 2.
No. 2527984
>>2527898I watched in a group of woke people, some were even troons themselves, and they all fucking hated it because it was so shit kek Everyone also gave zero shits about his pronouns, I refuse to believe they all forgot he's a themby (especially given his AGP outfits) but they were all fine with us calling him he/him over and over - last year I got "corrected" every time.
Absolutely hilarious that the single troon winner couldn't even stay popular/beloved for more than a year. I'm 100% sure if I snuck into troon discords they'd be crying over the second-hand dysphoria he gave them by looking so hulkingly troony
No. 2528001
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Someone’s selling English pronoun stickers at the local convention.
We are in Latin America.
No. 2528043
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It's unreal how much these guys hate women. They truly believe women failing to coddle them sufficiently is deadly oppression, just like their incel and MRA brothers.
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>>2528043KEK
Imagine having a fetish so shitty you need society to participate in it. I really can't.
No. 2528286
>>2527781Ugh the video is not available in my country, what did he say in the video/what were the comments saying?
>I ALSO found that thesis paper where he literally tried to assert 'lying is fine and even necessary for some arguments actually' and ngl I think I peaked Kek it's so funny to me that of all the people to write a paper about how bullshit and lying is fine it was a troon grifting as a 'sports science expert' and 'ethics expert' despite having some philosophy of language degree. Typical TRA playbook.
>>2527854The delusion of this ogre-looking scrote telling that pretty woman not only that she can't tell he's male (lol as if) but also that their dating pool is the same. Never in a million years would the men attracted to that woman want to date you, moid.
>>2527874Misogyny masquerading as 'feminism' as usual. Unfortunately, even some radfems argue this. People in this thread (a couple threads back) were even arguing this. I really wish GC feminists would stop stealing misogynistic arguments from retarded libfems and agreeing with them because this is one of the most embarrassingly stupid takes about sports imaginable.
>>2527890>I mean to be fair yeah most lower class people are pretty stupid and vote against their own interests.I don't fully agree with this and the people that these 'intellectuals' are calling lower/working class are not just the very poorest most uneducated people, it's anyone who isn't as privileged as themselves. The idea that the average college education in the modern era (even at Harvard or whatever) is superior to what you can get by doing your own reading or learning a trade is hilarious, maybe that applies to grad school in certain fields but undergrad, almost certainly not. Love to see an example of exactly what was being discussed in the thread though. You're never gonna convince me some electrician earning 75k who says 'actually there's two sexes and they're clearly different' is really stupider than and should listen to some gender studies prof who makes 250k writing articles about pure bullshit who couldn't even fix their own sink or coffee table. Having stuff to do to survive often leads people to actually learn and grow, it doesn't always make people stupider. The 'little free time outside work' argument makes sense if you just want to say people are less informed or up-to-date about politics but it doesn't make sense if you're arguing it makes people more dumb when their basic intuitions and real-world experience trump some 'studies' academia bullshit any day of the week.
No. 2528489
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>>2527854>>2527982plus I think they're jealous of the fact that the men who want to date them, eventually troon out
No. 2528491
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>>2528286>this ogre-looking scrote telling that pretty woman not only that she can't tell he's maleI kekked at that. He's not even slightly feminine either, he has gigantic picrel-level scrote features
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insane tranny death cult member doing cult shit as usual. theyre just upfront spreading their social contagion. i feel like it didn't used to be this in your face about it. its like if society allowed pro dancing-plague awareness posts
No. 2528514
>>2527914>If you don't agree with me on this take I have on women, you're a dimwit or a liarExactly what you would expect from a 56 yo male kek. Can't believe he thought he did something with this.
>>2527890I understand you look down on people with a lower education level and lower-status job than you, but understand you're part of the stupid lower class for the elite. You may vote differently than lower class people because you have different interests and lived experiences, not necessarily because they're stupid and you're enlightened. Even if that were the case, any society where the system is decided by an elite against the majority will never prosper. That's kind of the situation right now with troon shit being pushed on us (among other things).
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>>2528545I hope that image is fake.
No. 2528596
>>2528514Calm down. Your intellectual inferiority complex is showing. Nowhere did I position myself as being better than lower class people (how do you know if I am one or not?) and you seem to assume I think they’d be smarter if they voted democrat. They’d be smart if they voted locally…or at all. Is it really such an unreasonable statement that yes people living in poverty are often less intelligent than those who don’t, but that’s obviously a result of environmental factors instead of some innate poor people dumb gene. I also never claimed that the system should be governed by the wealthy. You came up with that all by your dumbass, brokeass self. Personally I think the uber wealthy should be executed and/or heavily restricted from power. Same for mildly wealthy, but to a lesser extent. Actually provide education and resources to poor people so there doesn’t exist this ridiculous disparity. You’re so attached to whatever wound you have from being poor, you think I’m your enemy. I’m not. Troon shit was a bourgeois invention inflicted on the masses. It backfired though in convincing lower class people because of its incoherence and intangibility. Things need to be more tangible to trick the poor into supporting it. It’s not black and white.
>>2528286I’m more so talking about patterns in large swaths of people, not individual examples between people who aren’t that different. No a poor guy isn’t automatically gonna be wrong about everything compared to a rich one. But overall, he will be far less educated on basic shit like math and history. And yeah, when you have free time, you can read and talk to people and observe things. All I’m saying is that poor people on average are dumber than rich people. Gender shit is one of the few exceptions, imo due to the abstract and intangible nature of it.
No. 2528609
>>2528491Isn't this that tiktok couple where the girl claims to be a femboy? I'm gonna track down that love dont judge episode kekkk I always find their videos hilarious. I love how when there's a straight t4t couple they're always 'lesbians' despite the woman's gender identity. Always anything and everything to satisfy the moid.
>>2528542>Hey if you've ever considered crack cocaine for even one second you should try it, trust.>Hey if you've ever wondered what it's like to be an amputee you should just cut your leg off, it will be so fulfilling I swear.>>2528550This is extra stupid because male bathrooms always have a much shorter line than female bathrooms anyway. The main reason any woman would dip into a male toilet is usually that they're so much more efficient. Nice of them to make the issue even worse by welcoming men into what was once the 'women's' bathroom.
>>2528550It's not up to you to decide that, at least if you don't have a good argument for why. This is how we got to troonism being widely socially accepted. You can sit on your high horse in your ivory tower refusing to talk to normies while shitting on their 'bad decisions' and laughing about how you will politically get your way anyway while they have no lobbying power, and that's how you get all of society accepting troons. It's not about one group being more moral than the other, it's about one group deciding another group is too stupid to be talked to/convinced, and deciding they will just have to be forced instead. You know this is what men have said about women throughout all of human history right? 'Oh women just don't know what's good for them, they don't need a vote or a bank account or a job, men will tell them what's good for them instead and women will benefit while continuing to think somewhere in their pretty little brains that they know better, but they'll thank us in the end.'
No. 2528614
>>2527898I went back and watched his original video from last year's Eurovision to remind myself what won him the original Eurovision and the two videos in combination are such a perfect encapsulation of 'egg cracking' and why GC women are less and less willing to entertain 'GNC' (in the sense of dressing in women's clothing) moids. It always seems to start with some
>I've cracked the code>I'm somewhere between 0 and 1 (nonbinary)>I'm free to be myselfbullshit and then it progresses to full buffalo bill level AGP as is evident in the video you posted from this year. Notably there are several comments under this year's video saying 'last year people clearly couldn't tell what kind of artist he is' (in both the positive and the negative sense, but mostly the negative). This is the exact problem with the current conception of 'GNC' men and supporting them. It used to be that GNC meant just casually being unable to neatly fit yourself into (mostly behavioral) sex stereotypes, but now it means deliberately, provocatively 'playing with' them in an attention seeking way, and when men do this it's always some weird fetish for denigrating women. The commenters saying 'people didn't know what kind of artist he was last year' are completely correct, he was likely popular last year with that first single because people thought 'oh, how cute and wholesome, a young moid wearing dresses and suits and fuzzy bucket hats and feather boas and singing in a high and low tone of voice because he's just experimenting and finding out who he really is.' This year's performance makes it obvious that just a year later, who he thinks he 'really is' is a depressed female skinwalker fetishist who dreams of being a woman and spends his waking hours wishing he was asleep so he could do the impossible (being a woman) in his dreams. Of course in a depressive, fetishy, disgusting and pathetic way. This is why you never trust these moids in the first place and you run as far and as fast as you can away from them the second they think it's fun to 'experiment' with female signifiers like see through pink ruffly gowns. It's not that being GNC is bad (as a male or as a female) but that people who are genuinely GNC just exist, possibly with pushback from society, rather than constantly trying to push other people's boundaries.
No. 2528621
>>2528596>Is it really such an unreasonable statement that yes people living in poverty are often less intelligent than those who don’t, but that’s obviously a result of environmental factorsNTA but sort of. There is a fairly robust correlation between intelligence and wealth/class but there are many highly intelligent people who are poor, not because of not having access to education (many of them are highly educated) but just because of familial luck and intergenerational resources. The idea that in this current era, where both primary/secondary and postsecondary education are in many cases worth less than toilet paper, inequality can be fixed purely by giving people more educational opportunities is naive. There is also an issue where the ultra rich use the middle and upper middle classes (via education) to do their bidding (even though it does, in fact, usually not benefit them in many ways) by convincing them to punch down on people even poorer than them with the excuse of their 'higher' (but in many cases not superior) education.
>large swaths of people, not individual examples between people who aren’t that different.A large swath of people who all believe something benefits them in the here and now may in fact be correct even if they took fewer high-level math classes, compared to a small number of (highly motivated) people whose interests conflict with their own telling them what they SHOULD think is good for them. Not in every case but in many cases this is true. I don't agree with you that gender shit is one of few exceptions, there are very many examples of this. Gender shit ISN'T abstract and intangible, and the propensity of higher class educated types to pretend it is (in order to lord their superior cognitive ability and penchant for abstraction over normal people) is exactly why TRA logic has 'won out' in our society. Even some random indigenous tribe in the Amazon who has never made contact with other human beings is smart enough to know sex is concrete and 'gender' is a fairytale abstraction. It takes a person with too much ego and too much 'education' to think this shit is intangible and ultra-complex, and handwave at some MRI study insisting there's such a thing as brain gender.
No. 2528649
>>2527890Sage because it’s a bit of a detail but I wish people would specify what they mean when they talk about working class people “voting against their own interests”. In the US people usually mean voting for trump, which yeah given the state of the Dems who would rather funnel money into foreign wars to benefit the interests of the American 1%, of course Trump who CLAIMS he’ll give ordinary Americans better jobs and make prices cheaper seems like he is working in their interests. Keep in mind too that the illiteracy rate in the US is extremely high, most people read below a 6th grade level which is again a result of the extremely underfunded/understaffed public school system. This makes people less able to spot misinformation because many sources of political info are literally outside their reading capabilities— so if Trump says something on the news about giving Americans good jobs again, people aren’t necessarily going to read the NYT or whatever article about how his policies will actually hurt working people. And it’s not that working class people uniformly don’t care about women, but they’ve seen pretty clearly that the democrats also do not care about women so why vote for (in their eyes) higher grocery prices when you won’t have safe abortion anyway? Obviously here there’s also the case of women from all classes genuinely voting against their interests because they’re against abortion, but that’s a different issue in my mind. The same is also true with Reform in the UK— they’ve paid more lip service to working class people than Labour who ousted their left wing years ago and has been enacting a brutal austerity program without even trying to hide it. It’s not always that working class people are too stupid/uneducated to see what’s going on, many of them can see just fine that the party they’re “supposed” to vote for won’t protect their interests and pivot to another party in the hope they’ll be better. (Also think about what you mean by “working class”— many nonnas including myself have probably gone to good universities and are well-educated, but will never own a home or make a very high wage.)
Sorry for the long post, I never know how derail-y you can get on ot without getting banned.
No. 2528663
>>2528649NTA. You keep calling a willingness to enact policies that keep women safer 'lip service' and I think this is inaccurate. Also sage because it is a bit of a derail but the reality is that Labor and the Tories in the UK have BOTH let in so many young single moids from countries that absolutely despise women and have no women's rights that it has made women in the UK fucking terrified to even go outside and get groceries, and Reform was the ONLY UK party actually committed to stopping this from happening. You can't say it's just 'lip service' when they were never elected so we don't know, but since that was their major platform position it's likely they actually would have done this. Even Trump, whatever issues there may be with his policies and personal character, wasn't just 'paying lip service' when he said he would deport illegal immigrants who are criminals, he actually is doing it currently which is keeping his approval ratings pretty high considering all the shit he's doing that people don't like (like tariffs). He also said he would enact laws against troonery and he has (and other Republican politicians like Nancy Mace also have). This is kind of aside from the points about ivory tower attitudes toward gender ideology specifically but I wish people would stop just acting like these politicians 'are just lying and tricking people' when they actually do what they say they'll do, or would probably have done it had they ever been elected. It's fair enough for many Britons to think 'it's not fair that out of the three or four other parties that consistently get seats, all of them support importing a bunch of proven rapists. We want to elect a party that isn't gung-ho about importing rapists.'
In order to try to rein in this discussion back to gender ideology, the problem is that in many countries across the Western world, there are NO options of 'mainstream' parties that are considered acceptable by the likes of NYT (which, by the way, do not inform people of reality or history any better than the fucking Daily Mail; in fact usually they are worse and lie more) who actually are willing to admit that men are not women. It is reasonable for any person with more than two brain cells left, whether they identify as left or right wing or moderate or politically apathetic, to get pissed off at this. How do you trust a political party that claims that males can LITERALLY become females and vice versa? You have known that this is definitively untrue ever since you read your middle school biology textbook. If a political party is willing to lie about something as simple as the fact that men are or can become women and vice versa, what else are they willing to lie about? What other fantastical utopic nonsense are they willing to include as part of their political platform? At the end of the day you never can predict what a politican or political party will ACTUALLY do once elected, so it's not a 'lack of education' or ignorance that leads people to vote for someone who says they will do (thing they want) over person who says they will do (thing they really don't want). All politicians lie and obfuscate, but at least one who says 'men are not women' in his or her political platform seems marginally more trustworthy, and all you really have to go on are promises that tend to be broken anyway. 'Voting against their own interests' is a way to shame people unhappy with the status quo (poor people) for disturbing a status quo you, as an exploitative upper-class person who benefited from current neoliberal corporate capitalism, liked and felt comfortable with, in most cases. Exploitative upper-class people who don't have to share public bathrooms, change rooms, or prisons with anyone because they only attend venues with single-stall locked restrooms and will never ever end up in jail or in a rape shelter, don't give a shit what befalls poor and disenfranchised people, unless they can use it to shit on said disenfranchised people and feel superior.
No. 2528684
>>2528614Yeah dont trust nonbinary moids it is either
>troon "egg">male feminist type who thinks wearing nail polish will get him laid with tifs and libfems and pass for being misogynist because he is "not a man"The rare ones who actually just want to experiment with fashion will admit they are men.
No. 2528693
>>2528663This was so eloquently written
nonnie, 100% agree
„Against their interests” is more often than not code for „not what I personally believe is in the best interest of lower class people, and I am unwilling to empathise with why they voted the way they did”
People are sick of the troon shit and are worried about the safety of women and the safety for their children, I’m not American and I’m not at all surprised that Trump won when he promised that he would stop pushing tranny shit when most people are barely able to scrape by
Working class people don’t want to hear about academics huffing their own farts over gender, they want someone who promises (whether or not this is true comes to light often after being elected) that their life will become easier and the lives of their children will be better
No. 2528702
>>2528663Ayrt, to be clear when I say “lip service” I just mean that reform/trump isn’t capable of actually improving working class peoples lives outside of one or two issues. That is, in the UK they aren’t going to stop austerity measures leading to mass layoffs, they can’t really lower energy prices or rent (since these are due to monopolies which are basically inherent to late capitalism), and they won’t protect women beyond the issues that are popular with their whole (majority male, iirc) voter base— so trans people and immigrants. Which i agree that they’re being consistent on, but public funding which affects womens shelters is still being cut, extortionate rent and CoL keeps women from leaving
abusive relationships, and Reform can’t really solve this issue because it would require attacking the richest people who benefit from it, and no mainstream party will do that. If I remember correctly though they have discussed nationalizing major industries which is obviously very popular among workers who have seen prices of everything skyrocket as a result of privatization. I agree we don’t know how much they’ll enact and how much they’ll go back on unless they’re actually elected, but I expect they’ll go back on a lot because all politicians lie. I do generally agree with you though, I think we have very similar opinions and I might not be explaining what I mean clearly.
And on gender I really agree with you. A lot of older workers I’ve talked to (men and women) don’t really care because they feel that there are bigger issues (which I’m not saying I agree with, it’s just what I’ve heard people say) but they’re sick and tired of this being the number one thing everyone wants to talk about. When you’re at risk of losing your job to austerity and everything is more expensive by the month, and every politician wants to talk about from one angle or another is genderspecials, you’ll recognize that those parties and politicians are totally detached from your interests. Not to mention every union meeting starts with an obligatory pronoun circle and then the leaders are basically in bed with your boss, but I won’t derail. Reform doesn’t focus as much on the gender stuff compared to other things, but they seem sensible and normal to people which obviously matters in a sea of out-of-touch stupidity. I think many people were fine with “be nice to everyone” politics for a while, but it’s clear that everyone’s gone totally off the rails for the gender whims of primarily rich twenty-somethings with too much time on their hands.
I also agree with you on Trump to an extent— but I think the main thing that’s tanked his approval ratings on issues other than border control (which is the only area where his ratings are above 50%) is that he hasn’t lowered prices or improved working conditions (including wages). Tariffs are a big part of that, but also, he’s letting lunatics like Elon decide what policies to enact and obviously they’re by and large things that benefit the super-rich. That’s also what I mean by lip service— I don’t think Trump ever thought he’d be able to raise wages and lower prices (maybe he did and I’m wrong), but he spoke in a way that acknowledged working class people when the democrats frankly have never done that, since their base is middle-class liberals. I don’t think that working class people are stupid or short-sighted for choosing to vote for politicians who claim they will enact policies to fix the mess we’re in, and who mostly tell the truth on gender bullshit— they’re voting as much in their interest as is possible in our current political climate. Sorry if this is incoherent, I’m on a train and it’s hard to proofread on mobile!
No. 2528718
>>2528702Limiting/reversing immigration alone would be a huge improvement to women's safety in the UK considering that a majority of sex crimes in the UK are from recent or 2nd gen immigrants (not gonna get into it too much since it's irrelevant but just saying). That's way more than any other UK party has offered to do for women, I recall just a few years ago all of them (including the Tories) were in a race to the bottom trying to see who could virtue signal for troons more. Most of the women's shelters that are female-only are privately funded anyway, the governments of most Western countries have been extremely hostile toward women's shelters for at least 2 decades. Like you said some of the economic issues are probably irreversible now but limiting extremely high levels of third-world migration is one of the most important protective measures for the economy, another way Reform actually had the right idea. Anyway I wasn't trying to nitpick your word choice, just point out that what is often called 'lip service' is, again, just an assumption by elites who refuse to vote for 'fringe' or populist parties that the party the proles like would NEVER actually try to do the thing they promised that the proles want them to do. This is just an assumption, a smug assumption, that bolsters their sense of being better than the stupid proles because they know politicians don't keep promises, or something. Except the proles know this too - they know this better than anyone, because most of the popular parties the rich like to vote for style themselves as pro-worker parties and claim to be benefiting workers, while the workers have seen for decades that's not true. The workers see that those parties never enact a single policy or keep a single promise that would benefit them. Of course they feel insulted when the rich elites tell them 'ohh sweety, you don't understand, this is the Good For You party! If anything changed, you would be fucked up the ass much harder, I promise! Anyway I will kill you and spit on your grave if you vote for the other party you filthy prole! Nothing to do with my own interests of course, I'm just looking out for your best interests.'
>losing your job to austerityNot sure I understand how this works, although it's kind of OT
> you’ll recognize that those parties and politicians are totally detached from your interestsThis is definitely true. Even if the troon issue isn't the most important issue to some people, they still notice the constant lying and fantastical thinking. They can observe (accurately) that the pronoun circles and 'oh sweetie you just don't have a GRAD SCHOOL level of biology education which is why you don't understand there are more than two human sexes' are the signs of decadence and pseudo-intellectualism, and correctly identify this as a good reason not to trust a politician who tries to LARP as pro-working class and just like them.
I disagree on the Elon thing but it's kind of OT so I won't get into it. A lot of the big DOGE cuts were weird USAID grants like transgender musicals in Bolivia, things that might be minor in the grand scheme of things but that regular working people definitely don't want to spend their money on while they struggle to afford eggs and bread. Tons of people are absolutely thrilled about the DOGE cuts because a lot of the cut grants and positions really were embarrassing and sounded like money-laundering. You won't hear those opinions on leftist websites like lolcow, but it's not across-the-board unpopular especially with Trump voters. I never heard Trump claiming he would immediately raise wages, so I'm not sure where that idea came from. Even the relatively uneducated people I've spoken to who voted for Trump said they knew tariffs would likely make things more expensive short-term, but many of them think 'wokeness' (by which, mainly, they mean gender ideology, sex-positivity, kink in schools etc) is even more important than that. A lot of these working class 'morons' have kids in school who are coming home with worksheets from school about the gender unicorn and shit, they're sincerely worried that shit is spiralling out of control and I think a lot of people just voted to stop it, knowing the economy was fucked either way. I think a lot of leftists on ibs and social media websites forget how much having kids in school changes people's priorities.
>>2528693Thanks anon, and I totally agree with your post too. I don't necessarily agree with all the typical 'blue collar' opinions, but at least I try to understand where they're coming from instead of intellectually dunking on them immediately. If a person living in a trailer park living hand-to-mouth tells me 'actually the main problem in my life is X' I don't immediately assume 'no, the main problem in your life is that you don't read WaPo enough.' They might actually know what their problem is, even if they didn't go to the same schools I did. And as for politicians breaking promises, all of them break promises, but people have to vote for someone so they'll usually just vote for the person whose promises seem slightly better or more realistic.
No. 2528800
>>2527854I got a long rant about this that I hope someone reasds. What always gets me about this conversation is that they are constantly trying to tell straight women that "Straight men date us! We have the same dating pool!"
If you are a woman and "Straight men" date you we'd see it. The fact you have to inform us of these alledged "Straight men" that you date lets us know what those "Straight men" think of you.
Instead of getting mad at women for not believing that their "Straight" boyfriend/husband could possible be fucking troons, why not be mad at the men? They are the ones troons are knowingly fucking/dating in secret. They are the ones who have to be drug out the closet even when you claim you "pass." They are the ones telling troons, "yeah I'm straight I only date women" but don't tell women, "yeah I'm straight I date women and trans women"
They just get so fucking pissed that straight women (even the most woke) seem disgusted/uncomfortable with the idea of "Sharing" a dating pool with troons. They see that disgust that some women don't hide at the idea and it pisses them off.
It hurts troons because a lot of them know that if women knew that "We share the same dating pool" women would opt on on dating openly troon attracted men all together. They can't get validation from us through "sharing the same dating pool" anymore. They get off on telling us, "Hey your straight man wants me!"then when they see how uncomfortable straight women get and rage out.
With the amount of twitter troons CONSTANTLY outing "Straight men" for being fucking them even they treat it as abnormal. They shame and have resentment towards DL men, they whine about it.
Look in the mirror at the man inside and the men you allow inside you. It's not our problem to accept. They don't want it to change, they love the idea that someone's ugly husband/boyfriend fucks them and/or rarely "dates them" and women are not informed. They just hate to see how disgusted women are by the fact.
Straight women seeking straight men, don't believe they share a dating pool with troon chasers/DLs because we do not believe those men are straight. It kills their fantasy.
They know straight men aren't bragging to women about fucking them, the same way they'll validate a troon by claiming, "I only date women."
No. 2528876
>>2528872Yeah its like they either are trooning out because they want to be the "right dick" for lesbians or they want to stealth rape straight men or they want to larp as a lesbian with their unlucky handmaiden spouse.
It is all just repackaged homophobia and I hope people wake up to how fucked up its been that we've enabled this shit for this long.
No. 2528909
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TiMs fucking wish any woman tif or not would be clamoring to room with them lmaoooo.
No. 2528921
>>2528909Kekk exactly. TIFs would immediately make excuses for AMABs and their totes
valid trauma while happily roomming with fellow gendie women.
No. 2528961
>>2528909Do moids think women are crying over being denied the ability to board in an enclosure with troons and chasers?
They are either schizzimg out over rejection or slingshotting in the other direction (coping) that people want them so much their lives are in danger. Typical moid psychosis.
No. 2528976
>>2527854HSTS have the psychology of turbo pickmes, except the pickmes are still women, and still have a little soul buried inside that can be drawn out if they ever decide to start respecting themselves.
Gay moids are very covetous of straight moids and have this perpetual resentment of women for being the objects of affection/lust for hetero men. They always act like men’s desire is a gift we are taking for granted. It’s not a gift, actually, since it’s very dehumanizing and harmful most of the time. But moids do not perceive this, as getting reduced to fuckmeat is their ultimate fantasy.
This is the impetus of most of homo men’s misogyny. It becomes especially evident when they transition. They start becoming “superior women”, and their idea of this is being better optimized fucksleeves and mate-poaching.
Men are not normal about sex, they’re basically animals. No, this is an insult to animals, as they have no egos or psychological issues to taint their instincts. Ultimately, fucking something to death or being fucked to death is their idea of “love”. Gay men are not exempt. They just direct their desire (and interest in being desired) towards other men. But they still have fucked up monkey psychology, and women end up catching strays anyways.
This is why HSTSs can never be allies to women, the same no man can be a feminist. Unfortunately, the creature is male.
No. 2529000
>>2528909Wtf is this even supposed to mean?
If someone had a listing that was a scrote who wanted other scrote roommates it wouldn't bother me in the slightest. If a TIF wants male roommates she won't have any issue finding them.
No. 2529009
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searching 'theyfabs' on twitter is fun
No. 2529045
>>2529009Kek I love when they pull the "well this rapist wasnt a
real tranny, because uh, they just werent, okay?!" shit. Id love to hear them explain in circles trying to tell us the different of a true and honest tranny and an evil faker (hint: there is none, trans is a completely incorporeal thing with no basis in reality)
No. 2529109
>>2529009Meanwhile if u ask these fuckers what the difference between a predator and an honest to goodness trans woman who just wants to pee is they call you a bigot nazi.
Fml
No. 2529222
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>>2528909What an interesting tweet, I wonder what Wikipedia says about 'Natalie Puff' aka LeftAtLondon.
No. 2529247
>>2529193There’s already been a drastic pivot towards focusing on “dolls” aka heavily surgically feminized HSTS very recently. I’m sure they’re going to try to No True Scotsman the overtly predatory ones who don’t even try to pass (despite advocating for self-ID and “
TW don’t owe you femininity” for the past decade) and pretend those guys were never trans to begin with and actually it’s transphobic to think they were. I’d bet everything that many of the outspoken TRA celebrities and publications are going to reverse ferret in the coming years and I can’t wait for JKR to call them out on it, with receipts.
>I also think a lot of normie liberal and centrist types will fall for it and go on believing that "true trans" people exist in small numbers, even if they acknowledge that the trans movement went too far.IMO this is far more likely than mass peaking. The misogyny and homophobia that allowed transgenderism to get as far as it did aren’t going to disappear just because people are starting to realise how bad it’s gotten. I expect that transgenderism will survive as a form of gay conversion therapy for quite a while yet.
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No. 2529744
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sigh
No. 2529892
>>2529850If those troons don't want to look "fake" in photos when why do they put on a tangled wig and smudge some makeup on and pretend to be female? But yeah no I buy that they're the ones who are the most delusional and they genuinely think they actually pass.
Also interesting how even after detrooning most people still insist they passed better than they actually did. And that's true for both detrans men and women. They'll make fun of troons for (still) being delusional but add that they themselves actually totally did pass decently from time to time. It's more rare to find a detrans person claim they fully never ever passed at all, even though in reality that is 99% of them.
No. 2529904
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>>2529892I mean I don't know why troons do any of what they do but on a very basic level filtering photos seems like it makes the photo completely useless to you, since the point was to have a record of how you looked at X moment and now it's just how some other imaginary AI person looks. There's a difference between that and looking 'fake' in the sense of wearing ugly makeup and wigs, which is still how you look to people when you walk around outside even if it is ridiculous. But yeah the more delusional and narcissistic they are the more comfortable they seem to walk around looking like some 1980s TV parody, and they genuinely seem to think they pass and look good.
Like this troon here:
>>2528491He doesn't pass even remotely in the video and just has triangles of dark brown paint on his nose that look insane by any standard but he and other people heavily imply he 'passes' all the damn time kek. Picrel is a still from the video.
>even after detrooning most people still insist they passed better than they actually did. Do you have examples? I mostly saw detrans people saying they didn't pass at all.
No. 2529978
>>2529447Incredibly based and perfectly explained, thank you for posting this anon.
>>2529939Nta but wtf. "Men" versus "Everyone" and nobody sees anything wrong with it… If they truly believed in gender woo, they would at least rename the bathrooms urinals vs cubicles but the fact that they keep calling the urinals men's bathroom proves that they know only men have penises and use urinals. They're only renaming the women's bathroom to appease trannies and because they hate women.
No. 2529983
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I always hated contrapoints but finding this old post makes me wanna alog even more. Can anyone point me to which debate OP in picrel is talking about?
>>2529447I love her, hope she stays active on YT for a long time
>>2528545This enrages me, wtf
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>>2529945He looks like an Ice Age background character
No. 2530037
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>>2529931I used to know this genuinely really good looking guy who didn’t understand why he wasn’t getting any matches on his dating profile, and it turned out his only picture was taken from below so that you were looking up his nose and it looked like he had a double chin. His about me was just the word “sup”. I briefly considered helping him take a better picture but then I realised he stank and his personality was pretty vile and this was probably just the universe’s way of protecting women against getting into a relationship with him.
>>2530006>>2530015The justification is that only men use urinals but everyone can use regular toilets so the bathroom with cubicles is for everyone and the urinal room is only for men. This of course ignores that women and girls are the ones who most require privacy and safety when going to the bathroom (men can and do piss anywhere) which imo is intentional (men don’t want us to feel safe in public) but also ignores that many TIMs and male enbies piss standing up
and that there’s always a few cubicles in the men’s room as well that anyone would be able to use. They’ll argue that TIMs don’t feel safe in the men’s because of the men but those same men are allowed in the “everyone” room as well so that’s not actually safer than the men’s room. Even by their own logic it doesn’t make sense to let men have their own dedicated space
and an “everyone” room.
Where I live this is unfortunately pretty common, too, but the law still says that venues are required to have at least one exclusive women’s room every X number of floors. Many of our older buildings were built in a time before women’s public bathrooms were the norm, so this law was necessary to force owners of these buildings to change some of the mens’s bathrooms to women’s bathrooms. I’m pretty crypto but I make a point of talking about this every time I encounter a “everyone and men” bathroom situation since 1) it’s illegal and 2) it helps to remind people why the creation of women’s bathrooms was a necessary reform in the first place. I never mention ‘gender’ when I complain about this so for all they know I’m including TIMs in the ‘women’ category who are being excluded from public life by being denied a safe place to relieve themselves. Hell I’m surprised more trutrans types aren’t upset about this. If TWAW then surely TIMs don’t appreciate having to share a bathroom with ‘cis’ men, either?
The biggest issue are nonbinaries (“where should they go, then?”) but fortunately I’ve never encountered anyone who actually believed in nonbinaryism kek. I can talk about “female nonbinaries” and “male nonbinaries” and nobody bats an eye.
No. 2530139
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I wish anime would depict troons more accurately like this, it's hilarious and would break their anime girl delusions when they can't even pass in fictional worlds
No. 2530171
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>>2530139Did Irabu Ichirou trooned out?
No. 2530219
>>2506150>>2506285>What is old news to some is brand new information to others.Really we should have seen the writing on the wall. She only wrote MalexMale relationships, was misogynistic to the only female character's there and unironically called herself a 'girlfag'. The same people that would roast a girl/woman for 'fetishing' gay men for writing slashfic, are the exactly people that would argue 'Lesbros' are just' transbeian eggs' Let's not forget the infamous essay she wrote where she wanted to be a leather daddy after seeing a neighbour boy been spanked by his father. Quintessential AAG, or autohomoeroticism as Blanchard would say.
As a corollary Ross Campell, whose art I used to follow (and whose book I bought) on DA, used to draw punk lesbian, Black and muscle girls, some pretty fetishy). (Even characters that were White had Black features.) They trooned out a decade ago. I didn't see it as a kid, but the AGP was really obvious in hingsight.
>>2528937Says a lot really that hobbies are considered a 'male-only' space that men want to gatekeep (Saw the recent akkad thumb and rolled my eyes), whilst when women talk about 'female-only' spaces it's when we are either nude and/or vulnerable.
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>>2530139For the most part TIMs are drawn as they are IRL in animanga, it’s just “traps” or “femboys” that aren’t (and they’re the ones that actually encourage people to transition because of that kek).
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Doing an extra-pocket-money survey gig. Accept a survey about trans rights. Love how they tell on themselves with their logo
No. 2530533
>>2530219Female-only spaces that men want to access:
>bathrooms>changing rooms>dormitories>shelters>prisons>support groupsMale-only spaces that women have wanted to access:
>education>the workplace>government>law>medicine>public life>hobbies and interestsEven then women don’t give a damn if men want go start a men’s only book club or whatever, as long as not
every book club is men only. Women aren’t offended when men want something for themselves, we’re angry when men hoard all available resources and leave nothing for us. Men, on the other hand, will try to infiltrate, undermine and minimise
anything women do for ourselves because the idea of us existing independently of men offends them.
No. 2530607
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With the way the GBTQ+ shits on lesbian women? I would say the hell no. The community has done jack shit for us other than spreading lesbophobia. I am only safe with other homosexual women, that’s it.
When we say to respect us they double down on the hate. I am tired of being “nice”.
No. 2530635
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>>2530607And that’s the fundamental problem
>having a preferenceIt isn’t a preference and I don’t need to unlearn or force myself through stuff that isn’t for me.
>having a preference is transphobia That’s what they all think and that’s why they are so keen on deeming every lesbian they see as “
TERF until proven otherwise”. I don’t need to fuck anyone to show my support and if you think that way then you are simply homophobic. I am so tired of this shit nonnas. So damn tired and mad.
No. 2530645
>>2530139>>2530298It would genuinely be hilarious to watch an honest comedy anime about actual troons and their delusions. A sweaty bunch of losers with different troon tropes:
>Baby-chan; the toddler larper wearing diapers, he's constantly arrested for hanging out around daycares>Yuri-chan; the transbian sex pest scaring all the real lesbians>Wanko-chan; the furry. He draws the shittiest furry art you've ever seen and can't be trusted around real animals>Fiona-chan; the hulking ogre who thinks he passes yet is constantly looking for someone to chimp out at over being misgendered a la "it's MA'AM!">Jiya-chan; the one depressed autist manlet fail-male with body dysmorphia who thinks he's better than the other AGPs, is a raging misogynist and spends all day watching porn and sending death threats to real women>Honey-chan; HSTS who doesn't pass but attracts a lot of chasers and is a prostitute wearing comically outdated hooker fashionYou get to hear the inner thoughts of women and other people who deal with them, it's the thoughts we all have and even handmaidens have. "Ugh that bothersome client is here again, better lie and pretend I forgot he's a man" and the comedy arises from how delusional and clueless these loser men are to it. It's a tragicomedy as everything always goes bad for the troon troup. You also get to see how they all hate each other and think they're the truest troon of them all. There are subplots like some of them forming a lesbian polycute and fucking each other because literally nobody else wants them while actually being deeply homophobic and straight (like Daffyd for those who have seen Little Britain).
No. 2530661
>>2530533Kek when you put it like this, nonna, it really makes it obvious what this is all about. With some all-male groups that gave men advantages (like fraternities and sports leagues) women just made their own. Can't moids do the same if it's not about being sexually predatory? Oh, nevermind, it is about being sexually predatory, I forgot.
>>2530635Having 'preferences' for your relationships is okay no matter how stupid and arbitrary they are. 'Lesbianism is a sexual orientation' is obviously a sufficient counterargument to this creepy conversion therapy shit but you don't even need to go that far to justify having 'preferences,' because 'I don't like redheads' or 'I don't like your voice' or 'I prefer someone who wears all black' or literally anything is also a sufficient reason not to date/have sex with someone. They pretend to be women but apparently haven't noticed that women generally don't ever want to date someone who doesn't like them or 'their kind,' women only want to date people who willingly want to date them back. It's incredibly moidish to want to date someone who doesn't want you and has made that clear.
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So close yet so far
No. 2531101
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Based
No. 2531162
>>2531101What are you saying is based here?
>>2530984You have an amazing memory nonna. I forgot he used to do these debates in a shitty wig back in the day. Back then he was totally a 'tucute' too but he started becoming 'truscum' once he medicalized himself and got a bunch of ffs. What a hypocrite.
No. 2531173
>>2530984Ayrt Thank you
nonny muwah ♥
No. 2531195
>>2531178Tbf I'm going off on no context here. Just guessing that the thing around the thigh is some sort of bandage. Might be a leg warmer or something but the design and texture makes me think of a bandage.
There's a person in the background who's somewhat masculine-looking and who also seems to have a cleft palate? (Again the poor quality of the picture makes it hard to tell). But I doubt thats who nona was focusing on.
No. 2531202
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>>2531162>>2531172Tranny won the track race, actual winner stands on the #1 podium after tranny leaves the crowd cheers
No. 2531344
>>2531342I think screenshots of news articles reporting on trannies being dangerous and/or violent sex pests would be good (hell, even those displaying courts coddling these fuckers, like the one with the pedofile dad that got a softer punishment because he was an "insecure transwoman afraid of coming out" or whatever). Anyone that's on the fence or curious would look up the article further and perhaps find more when they're googling.
You could in that use screencaps from the theysaythisneverhappens tumblr, or ctrl + f for links in previous threads.
No. 2531349
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the vibe shift is real
No. 2531351
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>>2531342I don't use tiktok but I'm assuming comments would show up best if they're short and there's not a whole lot of text in them? Or would screenshots with a lot of text still be visible? I'll post a couple of simple pics.
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>>2531352handmaids would respond to this
>"What about the many trans poc (mostly poor hsts) and third-gender people who exist?this is a better take down
No. 2531370
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>>2531369Sometimes stupid funny memes hit better than the most intellectual and thorough of arguments imo. But again, I don't use tiktok, so I wouldn't know how people react. I thought they'd be younger and more susceptible to memes.
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>>2531344Seconded, news articles tend to super sanitize their language and handle all trans matters with kid gloves like this German paper reporting some TIM fucker who flashed people with his rotpocket, but if you look closely there is always some peak-worthy dirt in there kek
https://www.giessener-anzeiger.de/stadt-giessen/frau-entbloesst-sich-in-giessener-innenstadt-93633926.html No. 2531386
>>2531359Reminds me of that video one of our banners is from.
>I am a woman, how dare you, I’m wearing high heels!>>2531367The last one should be a teenage girl getting a double mastectomy imo. The vast majority of TIMs never cut their dicks off but the number of girls being fast-tracked for surgery when they express the slightest discomfort with puberty is enormous.
No. 2531494
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he looks exactly like the type of pedo moid who would make misgendering a crime
No. 2531511
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JK Rowling is at it again.
No. 2531586
>>2531542India is a worthless shitty misogynist. All he has is jk Rowlings attention.
Like wtf is this agps relationship with his kid like anyways
No. 2532132
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>>2531342Either choose TIM's claiming they're women after going to prison for killing women or Women/Girls losing out on 1st due to trannies.
No. 2532152
>>2532132This fucker who brutalized and murdered animals, children, and women was eligible for parole in 2023.
Why the fuck does our legal system show any sympathy towards these parasites who commit hate crimes against women and children? If it's a man and he kills a woman, he should get a fast track to capital punishment.
Waste of fucking tax dollars.
No. 2532226
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troons and kibfems use brock lesnar's daughter (an absolute genetic monster) as evidence why trans people should be allowed in women's sports
No. 2532228
>>2532226I'm losing braincells just reading these retarded posts. Why don't these tards get it?
She's a fucking woman, so YES she does belong with other WOMEN.
No. 2532272
>>2532226>"how come no one talks about how unfair it is for her to compete with other women?"BECAUSE SHES A WOMAN YOU FUCKING RAGEBAIT RETARD
Fuck I hate these failmales who need to be in our spaces. They are men, they aren't fucking banned from sports like they did and continue to try to do to women. They can compete with men or make a third division. Jesus fucking christ I hate this MRA bullshit. I hate men so fucking much I want to ban them from using computers.
No. 2532297
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>>2532226I bet if she wasn't a wrestler like her dad, no one would have said that shit. Not mention also that most of trans women in sports sucked ass in the male category, but went better when they become "women".
No. 2532299
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>>2532226this is the person who made the first post. she is apparently an academic, no offence but she looks like an "academic" who has never does anything normal and therefore doesn't understand what sports mean for girls. I was a very lonely child and doing judo really helped me with my self-confidence and gave me my first friends.
No. 2532315
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>>2532226It's like they got used to beating down women with weaker physiques than them that when a women who appears very muscular and tough they start feeling threatened.
>Many white aunties look like this.Kek in what fucking world are random white aunties built like this? Being overweight/obese is not the same as being extremely fit and putting in the work to build up muscle. I guess the troons are jealous that fat white aunties will always look like women so they had to try and put them down.
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Gigakek
No. 2532337
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am i taking crazy pills? this was a comment on a thread about that tranny who won gold in the longsword competition. someone else made a comprehensive thread pointing out the amount of tims who have done this, including brice/“beatrice”. an absolute joke
No. 2532340
>>2532226The fact that if she competed with males she wouldn’t have any advantage. This same discourse is the shit they say about black women.
Females belong in women’s sports. No discussion. You know what doesn’t? Fucking males.
No. 2532348
>>2532315All these 'she's She-Hulk' comments about her physqiue when Mya is only 5'3. Stand her next to man and you still see sexual difference in physical characteristics. Muscular = men is such a regressive talking point. They keep using misogyny to beat down women, not us. Literally the only marker for being in women's sports? Being a fucking woman! That's IT. That's literally it!
But then, these are the same retards who take selfies and go 'I'm a smol bean so delicate teehee' and then you see them next to normal people and they're a 6 foot five gigahon skelebro. You can't do selfie angles in reality, Llylth.
No. 2532466
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>>2532401you may have a point, in her last post she literally compares asian women's bodies to transvestites, she has this progressive, internalized racism that you see in many neurotic liberal
woc No. 2532472
>>2532401Idc what race she is. Caping for men and throwing women under the bus is depressing. I have met some really vicious asian and white libfems who are chomping at the bit to tear apart and shun dissenters (especially female ones) and view "transphobia" (aka not claiming every man in a dress is heckin
valid and stunning!!!!) On the same level as sundown town racism or some shit. They aren't interested in rational discussion. Their block list is fucking MASSIVE due to them being massive hypocrites who claim they hate intolerance and oppression despite being both those things.
I dont understand the phenomenon behind it. Is it just internalized misogyny?
No. 2532525
>>2532315the fact that she's a real woman is so aspirational to me. seeing a woman that big and strong just makes me so happy kek. i wish women that big were more common.
Tranny men are jealous because they want all the girls to look up to them when they get up on that podium, but instead they're met with angry stares.
No. 2532636
>>2532226>woman is strongTroons: "M-must be a man! A woman can't actually be strong, this makes her just like a man!!!"
Like what the actual fuck are wrong with these people. They're the most regressive people on earth.
No. 2532721
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What a shame. For once I was rooting for the moid.
No. 2532783
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Good, the more they poison themselves with horse piss, the merrier. People do need HRT for real issues than "I want to grow some titties".
No. 2532869
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>>2532525>>2532799tbf she and her dad are genetic freaks and she's been training since she was a kid, so we'll probably never get close to her muscle power, but we can still be inspired by her
No. 2532957
>>2532721>we are being genocide!Literally how? At best they commit suicide en masse because they can't access their horsepiss. They aren't being rounded up and put in fucking death camps and these histreonic cluster b narcs need to stop fucking removing weight from the word genocide. They aren't being genocide. They aren't being systematically killed even in worst case scenarios.
The more I listen to trans voices the more I peak.
No. 2532972
>>2532315Biology is my favorite
terf of all. Even when a woman is built like a brick house the hips don’t lie
No. 2533026
>>2533013omfg I read that too (for the same manhating purposes) and now that I look at it again, I didn't even notice her playing pronoun games all throughout the post. Not even remotely surprised it's a troon though, they are the family annihilator archetype. And this bit??
>I suspect the money came from their girlfriend they are having an affair with (I'm not allowed to call it an affair because my spouse "doesn't see it that way" and it hurts their feelingsThat poor retarded woman, what a bleak fucking existence. I'm glad she's reading Lundy Bancroft and trying to escape.
No. 2533156
>>2532226>>2532348I got curious and searched which sport she competes for and it turns it's shot put, which is a rather normal physique for a female athlete who competes in that sport. I don't see why they are making a fuss, in every Olympics you can see women that are stronger and taller than her, all biological women.
She is also 5'3 and weighs 135 lbs, regardless, she would be weaker at throwing things compared to the average tim athlete since she is a real woman and tims have more upper body strength, even if they are lanky or short. It's just an excuse for their misogyny.
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Kek, it’s the pure opposite. I’ve never seen someone required to explain themselves for liking HP Lovercraft.
No. 2533228
>>2533026Lol wow twinsies,
nonnie. Yeah I saw that and dumped the knowledge out of my brain because it sounded like retarded hetero poly bullshit. I cannot believe how much this poor woman is bending over backwards for this retarded scrote and his feefees. No wonder he can’t find a job, he most likely looks and acts like a complete freak.
No. 2533255
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>>2531511>I will always be more of a woman than you, said Jonathon Willoughby, an adult male who fathered a child with his totally feminine and womanly sperm.
No. 2533267
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femininity is when a man mocks a woman by exaggerating a role that he imposed on her and is gross around people.
I see no difference in troonism and drag, to the core.
No. 2533277
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>>2533267>performance of femininity If you watch this shit and don’t think that this is plain misogyny and mocking women then you are simply retarded.
No. 2533290
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>>2533267>is BLANTANT OBJECTIVE THING THAT DISGUSTS YOU REALLY BAD?? OR IS IT (my convoluted nu-academic semantic and rhetorical obsfucation/ dismissal of your base feminine intuition and eyesight)??? Words salad, plain expression at the phone, and you have a TikTok philosopher
No. 2533301
>>2532226>>2532315You can literally see the feminine shape of her hips and legs in both of these photos. Some women with German or Nordic heritage just look like this. Troons always talk about transphobes incorrectly clocking or tranvestigating natal women like this, but it's
their fault that's happening. People would not be on high alert for moids in women's sports/bathrooms/etc if moids didn't start invading those places to begin with. They're the ones who owe apologies to those women.
No. 2533303
>>2533298They are not making a mockery of femininity, they are making a mockery of
females. They wear gaudy fake tits and pad the fuck out of their hips. It's not some social commentary, they are mocking women. See how hostile they are to real women in drag kek. It's a strict boys club to mock women, this whole "inclusivity" thing for drag is only recent.
No. 2533317
>>2533298John Mulaney once made a good observation about drag that I think about a lot:
>Why, with so many drag queens, is it always the same type of woman? Why is it always, like, a big and brassy woman, with like, a beehive hairdo and alligator skin shoes? It's like, what is your notion of a woman based on? A housewife in a Farside cartoon? Why is that what you think femininity is?I am not offended by drag where it's a man who happens to be playing a woman, like what you see in old-school Shakespeare performances or kabuki. Heck, there are even a few "tame" drag queens I'm okay with, like Coco Peru. I'm specifically bothered by a caricaturization of women based entirely on stereotypes dreamed up by men, many of which are underpinned by fetishes and misogynistic misconceptions. If drag queens were more diverse in terms of the personalities/archetypes they portray, I wouldn't take as much issue with it. It's just that 98% of drag characters are a weird combination of Broadway diva, Joan Rivers, and nymphomaniac, which is really exhausting and rubs me the wrong way more every time I see it.
No. 2533324
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>>2533255Holy shit he's wall-eyed. Maybe instead of getting a stink ditch installed, he should've gone to an optometrist.
No. 2533331
>>2533267She's saying this to her female audience as if men didn't invent femininity and then say shit like "if a woman isn't feminine she's a dyke!!1!" A.k.a. "sexually unavailable women anger me, a moid." So yeah femininity within a patriarchal culture literally is presumed sexual availability and solicitation in a man's eyes. A man will literally attempt to flirt with a woman at a grocery store if he thinks she's available.
Also drag queens have said on record that they bring their drag into their sex lives. Like they actively enjoy the female larp. (The crossdressing fetishists I've read about who have talked about why they like crossdressing say it's because it's basically just power dynamics turned up to 11 because they're ~stepping down~ from being a man into being a submissive woman.)
Anyway it was men who decided to make a TV show about their female larp "performances" and broadcast it to the world lol. Of course women are going to watch it and go "Hmmm. Isn't it kind of weird to use a representation of me as something degrading?" If they can't handle the criticism they shouldn't have broadcasted it.
No. 2533338
>>2533316You're really underestimating how misogynistic our world is,
nonnie. I don't blame you I guess since being GC you likely don't have to deal with these qualms but many women don't "enjoy" peforming feminity, they enjoy the positive attention from it. Women are beaten down for their looks time and time again, if a random woman was to stop wearing makeup and "feminine" clothes the next day, she'd get a lot of rude comments one after the other. Her self esteem would take a hit (and it's probably not that great to begin with). Also my point was more that drag queens are literally in costume, it's not their everyday clothes that they have to spend a lot of time thinking about. It's literally fun for them, a hobby, but for women it's just their lives. Men have a genuine choice to put on makeup but for women it's nuanced and they have a legitimate reason to want to wear it (societal pressure).
No. 2533355
>>2533349women aren't born with tits or a huge ass either. But the drag queens will emphasize that and make names in references to our genitals.
I worked with a drag queen and he was the most misogynistic faggot you'd ever meet.
They can fuck off with their womanface
No. 2533362
>>2533349Imagine putting a misogynistic man over a woman.
I'm sorry nona, but I find even the most turbo pickme more redeemable than a misogynist moid. At least the pickme is usually only harming herself.
No. 2533533
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>>2532957I know, the more I see "we are in danger" when I never read a news about someone being killed for being trans makes me peak too.
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No. 2533651
>>2533349Ayrt and no, I do not imply it. MEN imply it, because they're mocking women, meaning that to them a non feminine woman (which I hate as a term, a woman is feminine because she's a woman and she's not "masculine" for not performing femininity, I hate describing men as feminine and women as masculine for not acting stereotipically) is not a woman. You don't see men in butch drag. Men did a weird mental gymnastic because they imposed a feminine stereotype of woman for their tastes, many women didn't want that so men began begging each other for attention and going "Teheheeee! Im a woman now! I'm dressing up as a WOMAN!"
Just like back in the day people didn't find black people that were self hating enough to engage in those degrading shows so they did blackface just to highlight stereotypes and suck white dick on the basis of hating the same thing. Drag is by men for men, women are not involved, they are merely an object in the whole act, something to copy and to make fun of just to go "ahah women right?"
It was never about the makeup, drag is not "art", drag is actively dressing up as something you are not (women) to make fun of it with other people in your group. Most women aren't on the drag level of clownery. Most women go around with t shirts and jeans/yoga pants and with little makeup, did you ever see a drag queen like that? Troons love to say "we are more women than you!" for caking their face in makeup and using gross lip fillers, guess why? Because they're the ones associating pornified stereotypes to being a woman.
No. 2533717
>>2533349W-What?? Are you implying black people = white people with shoe polish on their face and big painted lips? Are you suggesting that racist stereotypes about how black people behave, talk, and what they like are representative of black people? No, right, "
nonnie"? Yet, these stereotypes are still offensive. The same goes for how retarded fags portray women. The same fags who hold top positions in the fashion industry and reinforce sexist beauty standards, mind you. Stop playing dumb and go back.
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>>2533657>a woman is feminine because she's a woman and she's not "masculine" for not performing femininitywords mean things, i'm afraid. all over the world feminine is understood in terms of stereotypes and restrictions applied to women, masculine is the natural state of a human being. why you want to muddy the waters with this "it's totally femme to be hairy if it's a woman! uwu!" is beyond me
No. 2533849
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>>2533846>in the gender ideology hate thread>you can't say that a woman is feminine if she doesn't shave, because men decided so! look at what this dictionary, that also says that trannies are women, has to say about femininity!ok
No. 2533861
>>2533849other terms in the dictionary don't really matter, feminine and masculine always describe stereotypes/social conceptions. if a culture pops up where rubbing soot into your cheeks is considered masculine and manly, butches will start rubbing soot into their cheeks because butches are meant to echo social conceptions of men. if women are made to rub soot into their cheeks, it will be considered feminine because women are doing it. see what
>>2533735 said.
No. 2533876
>>2533533Don't they understand how deeply offensive calling their horse piss "life saving medication" is to people who actually need certain medications to live?
The tranny might be sad, maybe he will want to kill himself, but a diabetic WILL die if they don't get insulin for a week.
TRA's are hands down the most self serving, narcissistic, cluster b fuckers to ever scourge the internet.
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>>2533846>all over the world feminine is understood in terms of stereotypes and restrictions applied to womenAgreed
>masculine is the natural state of a human beingYou probably are wording this badly rather than implying like a trad that a woman without makeup = masculine, so I won't start an infight. I will point out that men have their own set of stereotypes (though they are way less restricting to men in day to day life). In order to be considered "masculine" men need to be emotionless (because being in touch with your emotions is allegedly "feminine"), be physically big and have muscles (but skinny men aren't shamed like women are for not having the perfect hourglass body), stick to wearing "non-feminine" clothing and no makeup (which suits them just fine). Most of the stereotypes associated with men are harmless to them and can be achieved without effort while for women most of the expectations require them to actively make decisions that waste their energy, time and health (makeup, maintaining sexy figure, high heels etc). As a result, a woman who is making zero effort to lean in either direction (medium length hair, no makeup, wearing plain tshirt and pants tailored for the female body) will be considered masculine by magatards, but there is no need for us to mirror their words.
No. 2533891
>>2532705it just makes it so glaringly apparent that the only experience of womanhood they have revolves entirely around looks. a woman's dainty superficial socially-imposed femininity is what makes her 'woman', not her lived experience, organs, or the DNA in every cell of her body. it only matters what she looks like. it's the most shallow superficial world view someone could possibly possess and it's genuinely insulting that that's how they view us, just a collection of stereotypical barbie-esque attributes like 'long hair' 'spinny skirt' 'obsessed with shopping'.
maybe that's why in some ways i feel like the term 'doll' is appropriate for them. it sounds cute at first but then you realize it is a living breathing human being equating themselves to being an inanimate object play-acting absurd tropes.
No. 2533905
>>2533599what is a “girl” anymore but 4 letters with 1 vowel. a man with a whole ass beard is a girl if he really tries enough!!! your grandpa can wake up and decide to
become a girl!
but then, what is a girl but not just a label to be put on and put back off and parade around. in the TIMs mind, being a “girl” is when you put on a wig and lipstick. thats all it is. something for insecure faggots who werent beaten enough as kids to cosplay as.
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>>2533846i really hate this concept that we don't know what the word 'woman' means anymore. synonym for biological woman? female. root origin of the word? literally has to do with motherhood. is motherhood required to be a woman? absolutely not, but which of us can, in general, naturally produce nutritious breast milk and the other needs a cocktail of experimental drugs in order to produce a dribble of questionable liquid so they can pretend they're feeding their child? (and jfc one can only imagine what lacing your children's food with drugs and hormones in the initial stages of infancy is going to do to their development process/later in life. the kid who was subjected to that is honestly going to have a lawsuit case in 20-something years i bet.)
it just reminds me of that jordan peterson interview where he tried demanding that it be considered reasonable to question the definition of every word in a sentence. the same people who found that ridiculous ought to be lining up to question the same standards in trans rhetoric but tbh i understand not wanting to get involved with as
toxic and convoluted as that scene is.
No. 2533921
>>2533866Well then going by this tranny logic then violence is the default because moids love being violent.
The moment you stop seeing moids as the default is the moment you see how much of what we perceive as masculine or feminine are social constructs and not what truly defines us as women. Thinking fashion and make up are inherently feminine things is the kind of troon logic that keeps gender ideology afloat.
Are you trans or were trans by any chance? I'm not here to troonfoil, I just get the feeling you haven't truly gotten out of the gender mindset. The core of gender identity actually puts moids as the default normal and will see everything else as "other" with a heap of gender stereotypes on top of it all.
No. 2533946
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Got shown picrel and it made me kek. Do TRAs know the drugs used for chemical castration are the same drugs they call “puberty blockers”?
Also the concern about chemical castration when you intend to go through with surgical castration kek maybe you should put in the DIY HRT directory that teen boys get registered as sex offenders for the free, bigot-sponsored PBs
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>>2533876I read someone comparing it with men having to inject T if they had testicular cancer or women having bob job as "life saving". The first one is, the second is not.
No. 2533965
>>2533890nah, that anon is def TRA adjacent. women don't look masculine just because they go out without a full face of makeup and heels like implied here
>>2533866. not even conservative scrotes think like that. being a woman and having a female body is inherently feminine. a woman with short hair wearing jeans will always be infinitely more feminine than a man in a dress. yes beauty standards and gender roles are used to restrict and control women but only troons insist that gender matters more than sex.
No. 2533995
>>2533907I hate the "w-w-well women who are infertile must be the same as men" bullshit argument.
Not all women give birth, but all people who give birth are women. Even if she's infertile, her body was made with the ability to have children. That is something ingrained in a woman's socialization from birth. I'm tired of people allowing male abuse strategies to run rampant in the troon sphere.
No. 2534002
>>2533946i thought they
want to be castrated? dont these guys get unnecessary orchiectomys for fun all the time?
No. 2534014
>>2533921ntayrt but yeah I think this whole feminine=female masculine=male argument is regressive and severely retarded.
Women and men shouldn't be defined by their interests or presentation. Masculinity and femininity are social constructs, male and female are objective realities.
All this stupid "girls like pink and heels boys like baggy clothes and sports" bullshit is both conservatard shit and tra shit. IDK why it's even being debated here. I thought the LC GC's moved past this shit when they peaked.
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No. 2534128
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>>2534063>fruityAre children aware that this is actual homophobic terminology and not funny social media slang?
No. 2534196
>>2534128>>2534158What's with zoomers pretending they're elders so they can bitch about people using "
problematic" speak? It comes off as so fucking cringey to go "hey kiddo, you'll learn when you get older that calling a strawberry the f-word is bad."
No. 2534229
>>2534211It's incredibly common to call something fruity without it being meant as a homophobic slur, how much time do you have to spend online to the point that its only used as a slur on tumblr and not used to call a range of things, usually decor, "fruity"?
I doubt it has such a
problematic reputation that it's not at least used to describe actual fruit.
No. 2534247
>>2534237Calling a man feminine has the same connotations either way to a man, the difference this that at least it's
not tied to women but to behavior.
If it bothers you so much that such a
problematic word is used, leave it as "flamboyant to hardboiled" then. Feel free to change hardboiled too if that's a slur on some Twitter too.
I'm too old for this retarded shit over a word used so frequently like "fruity" is suddenly so
problematic that its a slur because men made fun of other men for that behavior, as if they didn't call them straight out "women" as well.
No. 2534353
More like "be an insufrible woman in social media be like".
No. 2534363
>>2534061It's fine to acknowledge what femininity means in terms of gender roles imposed by society, but if you try to enforce that definition and don't understand why some women disagree with it, you should probably leave the gender hate thread alone.
>>2534247Preach nonna
>>2534357Anon… If a man ""settles"" for anal sex with a man, he's bi or gay.
No. 2534428
>>2524480I was the one who posted this in the /snow thread and it's so cool to see it posted again in this thread and it sounds like it was the first time that you watched it and I'm glad you enjoyed it because it's one of the only examples of a debate of a GC/Radfem vs a troon and best exemplifies why troons avoid debates against GC/Radfems like the plague because they know they will lose every single time and unlike conservatives, the GC/Radfem stance is not based in conservative values or religion, just pure biology and common sense. There was another somewhat memorable semi-debate that featured Meghan Murphy against a TRA reporter on a news channel where Meghan destroyed this guy who kept trying to move the goalposts when he realized he couldn't stump her kek. I think the video was deleted though because I can't seem to find it.
I also learned in a Kai Decadence video that even Blaire White was supposed to have a debate with Magdalen Berns (RIP) and he never followed through with it as he chickened out after 2-3 attempted re-schedules and then only spoke up about her when she was in the terminal stage of her cancer a few months later…
I think he realized that he was going to look like a huge fool and his con would've been exposed if he actually went through debating someone like her.
No. 2534453
>>2534388This is what is so insidious about letting men “become” women. It’s hard enough to get anyone to care when you call out a rapist moid but then he puts on a wig and suddenly he can screech his misogynistic ideas under the guise of feminism and no one can question it. He’s just as much of a woman as you are, what makes you such an expert on women’s oppression? He never even got to be a woman until yesterday, isn’t that the truest oppression of all?
How is feminism supposed to survive if we can’t call this shit out?
No. 2534458
>>2534453ntayrt but I cling to the desperate hope that more and more women peak. Nothing has made me learn to respect myself more and become more aware of how scheming, manipulative, and psychotic men are more than seeing trans ideology for what it truly is.
It's scary to call out predatory moids, especially those little tranny shitheads who use libfems as meat shields against criticism, but I think we can slowly fight it off. I always try to take a step back and look at the bigger picture. We have come so far over the last century. Things were so hopeless for women in the west just 200 years ago when coverture was in full swing. I pray in 100 years drag will be seen as vulgar and bigoted, pedos will get capital punishment, and trannies will not stand in the way of women's rights anymore.
I just pray every day for more female solidarity, that women depend on men less and less, and if they do end up with a male partner she isn't afraid to leave his ass the second he steps out of line.
I see trannyism as just another hurdle we have to overcome. I have faith in womenkind.
No. 2534501
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a lot of TIFs view transitioning as the ultimate rejection of female socialization and conditioning when really they are swapping one painful (and often times shame-fueled) habit for another. the strive to be a feminine woman is shameful but the strive to be a TIF is heroic. a lot of them view the “carving of their own body and identity” as resistant and not something parallel to the eating disorder they pretend to have moved on from
No. 2534533
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creepy
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>>2534533do NOT let these men anywhere near children.
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>>2534561I think it's guilt and/or sunk cost fallacy, depending on who you try to talk to and their situation. Imagine realizing you spent years obsessing over the rights of clowns that wouldn't give you even a second glance if you ever needed help, realizing you were nothing but a tool and attack dog for them towards women that actually never did anything wrong, imagine realizing you were aggressively all for the mutilations of children whose bodies are now ruined forever, remember all those friends and family you cut off or the people you rallied for to lose their jobs for wrongthink just to now realize you might share their views and you lost them for nothing. It must be easier for these women to just plug their ears and ignore the nagging feeling in the back of their minds, that maybe, just maybe, they were the bad guys all along.
No. 2534604
Not even while listening to my favorite Spanish synth-pop band on YouTube I can escape gendertard nonsense. They made this song which has a line that goes "I'm neither man nor woman", and of course, this attracted retarded TRAs. Yeah, they made a couple of songs later in their career about homosexuality (one in open support of lesbians), but this is not an excuse to project gendie retardation onto this other song that comes from their very first album, which itself was released in 1982, and I seriously doubt this band would've heard of non-binary shit in that year. At most, they would've heard about some weirdo identifying as "neither man nor woman" and included that in the lyrics because they found it curious, kind of like how many normal people (me included, when I was little) heard of "men who turned into women" which they saw as a fun and weird fact about mentally ill gay individuals. The TRA comments pissed me off because some people replied "not everything is about the LGBT" and then some retard replied something akin to "b-b-b-but they made songs about gay people which everyone knows is the same as being non-binary!! CHECKMATE". I think they all just want to be progressive and this virtue-signalling is how they feel good about themselves.
I hate how gendies and TRAs conflate homosexuality with troonism. I hate how anti-troons attack (intentionally or not) gay people, because they're fed up with trannies so they shit on the whole LGBT+ umbrella, including the LGB. I hate how nobody ever points out that "acting like a man/woman" isn't actually a thing, and conflating being male or female with the socially expected and enforced behaviors/roles/stereotypes for each sex is stupid and makes no sense. When troons and enbies say
>I don't feel [actual sex] because I don't act like it, so I must not be [actual sex],
nobody says (but they should say)
>you are [actual sex], no matter how you act, because any person of any sex can act in any way. You deserve respect regardless of your sex and behavior but there's nothing wrong with being [actual sex] either. Being [actual sex] should not have any negative connotations, nor prevent you from acting a certain way.
Putting on a dress and makeup does not make anyone female, this is so fucking obvious. Trannies have such an obviously archaic way of seeing "gender" and sex that I can't believe more people don't call them out on their bullshit. And wanting to be treated like a human who deserves basic respect and dignity regardless of your genitals, and without assumptions made based on your sex, is fucking normal and has nothing to do with being supposedly born in the wrong body or "not feeling male/female". It's normal as a woman to interact with other people expecting them to treat you normally, without discriminating against you or treating you any particular way for being female.
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>>2534604Also, this prompted me to read a bit about enby history and aside from all the "this retard didn't
feel like a woman or man so they decided they were neither" bullshit, this excerpt from the nonbinary wiki article in particular pissed me off. Troons appropriating feminist efforts to dissect gender roles and promote equality between the sexes makes me so fucking mad.
And the way these fuckers talk about those eViL terves is so childish.
>cisgender woman Janice Raymond wrote the book Transsexual Empire, which outlined her transphobic conspiracy theory which told cisgender women to fear transwomenlol. Cope and seethe more, trannies. Thanks to this shoutout I'm reading her book right now, it's available for free on her website.
No. 2534629
>>2534595AYRT and yeah you're probably right. I mean before I peaked, I wasn't a hardcore TRA type and I mostly was of the mindset of "live and let live" and "as long as you aren't hurting anyone, it should be okay" while not being aware of the true underbelly of misogyny and homophobia that is the core of trans ideology because you know, mainstream news would not show cases of TIMs terrorizing women. But even then, it just wasn't something I thought much of since I didn't really know a lot TIMs personally so when I finally did have my peak trans moment, it was fairly easy for me to accept the truth but I can imagine it may not be as easy for those who devoted their life to "trans rights" activism.
But at the same time I feel like there is no excuse to be so in denial of what trans ideology really is about considering that news outlets all over social media are covering more stories of TIMs harassing and bulldozing over women from TIMs winning sports awards and scholarships (that were for women), grooming children, and the internalized misogyny that TIFs have with themselves. It's certainly more talked about now than it was 6-10 years ago.
No. 2534768
>>2534453The cannon which launched me to the peak of Mt. Trans around 2016 was the way the more deranged tumblr-poisoned handmaidens in my social circles would defend sex pest moids who were even slightly awkward or alternative by saying they might be trans, and that the creepy behaviour was really an expression of their repressed gender identity. Moid with a fetish for underwear or other women’s clothes? Probably trans, so the fetish is a perfectly innocent interest in fashion actually. Moid obsessed with (pre)teen girls? Probably trans and trying to experience the female childhood/puberty he never got to have. Moid can’t keep his hands to himself? Probably trans and touch-starved due to being raised male, poor baby, women touch each other all the time so why can’t “she”? Most of these moids had never even heard of transgenderism before the handmaidens started making these excuses for them, and unsurprisingly many of them started claiming trans identity (but closeted so like, don’t mention it to their family or employer uwu) soon after, which of course made the handmaidens feel vindicated. I remember arguing that lumping all these obvious sex pests in with the trans community was a massive disservice to the latter, but then “actual trans people” (mostly HSTS who had had significant cosmetic surgery and a legal sex change, which was more difficult to get then) started shouting me down and essentially told me that any criticism of a “possible trans woman’s” (aka man’s) sexual behaviour was transphobic you fucking [insert misogynistic slurs], and it finally clicked with me that I was dealing with a men’s sexual privileges movement. These weren’t sad men who hated themselves, these were men who wanted a free pass to do whatever the fuck they wanted. And these moronic handmaidens were handing it to them on a silver platter.
No. 2534772
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Reddit needs to keep a closer eye on the 4tran4 subreddit. I’ve seen so many people there openly admit to DMing minors to teach them how to do DIY HRT if they can’t get it legally. They admit this! And they whine and opine anytime they see someone being made to wait a few weeks/months.
I was super disturbed by this picrel which is probably just some TIF trying to be edgy and farm engagement, but the pushback against her was surprisingly weak. They’re egging her on to do it, talking about suicide as some kind of inevitably if she doesn’t…it really is a death cult of sorts. The women who post there are a truly sad breed.
No. 2534861
>>2532226I think the only reason they're implying she looks like a troon is that this happened to be an unflattering photo and her face doesn't look "pretty and feminine" enough for retarded TRAs/troons. Her face + neck makes her look like a man, according to them, though they may not even realize their problem is that they expect women to always look pretty. But the fact that practically nobody before me ITT pointed that out means most sane people don't give a shit about that, and can still tell a muscular woman's face apart from a man's, even from a shitty angle.
I also want to be like her, I agree she looks so cool
No. 2535191
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JK gets more based with every tweet.
No. 2535275
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Hope I chose the right thread.
What part of any of this is fun? Like, specifically. Show me where?
These trannies are really really starting to get on my nerves. 1 out of 3 pieces of fanart I see is troon shit and I hate it. At least if it was inserted in ambiguous characters but no. It makese no sense + not lore accurate. You're telling me the physical manifestation of someones soul (pic rel) has tit chop scars? Really? Is there something in the water that you don't even realise the irony in that?
Not even in death can you or a character be your prefered gendah bc you still need your scars and pre/post op genitals to feel like yourself. Such a shitty self insert trend where they'd give even a robot tit chop scars.
Not to mention one of the characters is almost always depicted as a TIF and ALWAYS in sexual situations. Fucking sad. Can't even draw a male character in dresses without being labled as trans. Suicide, immediate and instant
No. 2535365
>>2535292Ocasionally I see ultrakill content from slavic countries (mainly on tiktok) that are actually ok. It really does seem like Eastern Europeans are less concerned in making "diverse" content and prefere sticking to the characters…well, when the jokes isn't "I spent money on slot machines" lol
I'd take gambling and alchohol endorcements over trans rights at the rate things are going.
And yk the dev is all up in that and actively encouraging it, not that he had a choice either way.
No. 2535573
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No. 2535655
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Has anyone else found themselves mistaking women as TIMs for a second when those e women are in excessive, almost drag queen like makeup? Ofc taking a proper look immediately dispels my doubt, but my brain has started to associate face caked in makeup == TIM. I've never mistook a plain faced woman as a TIM though
No. 2535685
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I hate them I hate them I hate them. Why must they always invade our spaces with their absolute BS. I'm so tired nonnas. I just want to scroll my dress up game shit without troons shitting up threads or making threads about their mental disorders.
They keep saying they're so uwu rare smol bean but I stg every goddamn place i got has troon BS in unrelated stuff that isn't about sex or dating or anything! Always! Trannies are fucking everywhere. I cannot escape it!
No. 2535750
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>“Trans women can grow a cervix with hormone treatment” - Former Secretary of State
No. 2535802
>>2535685>confusing sex and genderYeah well if you're going to use female and woman synonymously with the two then people are going to get confused you fuckers. But heaven forbid you replace the biological term "female" with the subjective "feminine"! Then you might have to accept reality!!!
Why is it that moids are so scared to be feminine men? Why does it have to be dress and makeup=woman? Is it because of paraphilia? Is it because of misogyny? Both?
No. 2535908
>>2535862I don't know her closely, more like met her a few times and have her on my social medias. But she just silently detransitioned - added a letter to her chosen tranny name that made it more feminine, and then got pregnant twice (seemed planned too). She has never acknowledged any detransing publicly on any of her socials, seems like she just started living as a woman again and trucking along like nothing even though she got the tit chop and went on hormones for years beforehand.
My close friend that used to be good friends with her apparently called it several years ago when the girl first trooned out, and is kinda amazed that her prediction was so spot on kek.
No. 2535944
>>2535885>To be fair I think a lot of them know they can't publicly stop being trans because their friends would drop them in a heartbeat, I think that's the most
toxic part of the gendie community. There's a lot of pressure behave and identify as certain way. There's no nuance. If someone steps out of line, there's no communication, no debate, no discussion. If they question trans ideology at all, they are shunned.
I don't see this as much in radfem or GC communities. Even if there's disagreement, friends don't just like drop one another like some sort of cult disfellowship.
I had a TIF friend who, prior to going full gendie, was very close to me. As soon as she could tell I wasn't 100 on board with her taking test and chopping off her tits she got colder and more distant until she finally left.
No. 2535979
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is there any validity to this claim or wtf are they on about
No. 2535990
>>2535979My experience with the use of “gender traitor” in radfem places was mainly when we saw TRAs talk about how they think radfems see TIFs, not from actual rfs. Though it’s possible some rfs have used this term to refer to pickmes/handmaidens in general. Also,
>stories of TERF incels who fetishize trans men and try to force them "back into womanhood" basically to have sex with them.This is complete projection. I forget her name but there’s a TIF whose art is currently the thread pic of one of the art threads, and she does this to herself. Also, some TIMs have this fetish as well kek.
No. 2536083
>>2535982he did…he said…w-WHAT?
That and TIF gabriel in almost all fanfics, gross.
No. 2536089
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>this happened to me and my partner
sad, it really is a disease
No. 2536110
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>>2536083>https://x.com/HakitaDev/status/1895167694279975172new title screen made pornsick tims/tifs think v1 had a womb. hakita drops in like "nah that's bullshit, you can't buy into everything you see online" and tifs start whining "noooo! b-but it's literally me?!" and he just tells them yass king you're
valid. honestly i don't know what else he could've done, it's not like indie developers or creators can deny troons in any way.
No. 2536179
>>2536110They'll presure the dev to troon a robot but not the protagonist from cruelty squad. Not that he should be but it's funny how big the difference in quantity is.
Might be wrong
>I was exited when I saw V1 is similar to myselfWhen will it ever be enough? You have people scream every 5 seconds trans rights. Existent trans characters aren't good enough in media, we need to convert everything we touch like the plague. This is really sad. I'm convinced this is the result of lazy parents and mentally ill people being given a platfor and an audience of prepubecent teens who don't even know what career they want to pursue. They need intense therapy and soul searching. The human mind was never ment to reafirm it's identity through non existent characters alone and arbitrary terms.
Also, I'm glad I got to talk to nonas who've played the game as I don't have anyone to share these things with. Thank you.
No. 2536187
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not sure if this has been posted before, but a gendie advocacy group in the UK is starting a campaign where they give troons access to electronic keys to use toilets meant for disabled people because "they deserve to pee in peace uwu". all they have to do is fill out a form and get sent the key free of charge.
we're totally going to see a news report in the future about men being caught jacking off in the disabled toilets because of this, calling it now
No. 2536227
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womanhood is when a moid looks like a male sex fantasy
No. 2536230
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>>2536227all that work to still be clocked forever
No. 2536236
>>2536187'Denied access'
Bitch where? You're allowed to use the mens toilets. You just refuse to!
No. 2536613
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>>2536243>literally the horrid man on the planetEdit for you.
>NARCISSISTS DESERVE NOTHING No. 2536623
>>2535979>Hey guys remember radfems totally hate us too! >They want to groom us back to womanhood >They want us dead >They want to have sex with usKek they couldn't decide what radfems want so they just went with a bit of everything. It's not like any of it is true or needs to be proven anyway. Ngl "they hate us so they want to have sex with us" is probably TIFs' most malebrained fantasy to date. Most self-proclaimed radfems literally have a bf or husband, they do
not advocate for total male death, and they do not want to have sex with self-hating tumblrinas.
No. 2536686
>>2536613>DESERVE TO MAKE MISTAKES AND BE FORGIVENRaping a child isn't an oopsie mistake, and I will never forgive them.
Stay out of my bathroom, moid.
No. 2536816
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EVERY TIME I search something about women’s health. I think that Medical News Today should take a swan dive off the roof of the building.
No. 2536867
>>2536827That was on this page:
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/327379Looking at the page for “blue balls,” it does not have the disclaimer but still uses gender-neutral words instead of saying “men”:
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/324870 No. 2537267
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No. 2537318
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I have no further questions, your honor.
No. 2537377
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>>2537267>mtg pic>close-up, sunglasses covering half her face, masculine clothing, flexing muscles>sarah mcbridemiddle distance photo, makeup, wearing a dress, shot from a 3/4ths angle to emphasize breast outline
yeah sure these are exactly the same equivalent. picrel is more of an accurate comparison considering mtg is also 5 inches shorter.
also
>women is when pretty instead of
>women is when biologyfuck them.
No. 2537412
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30k likes. I'm so glad women on tiktok are waking up to the disgusting nature of troonism, though it's not mainstream yet.
a couple comments:
“you saw womenhood through male eyes your whole life, and have the audacity to tell us what it looks like.”
''Womanhood is just a costume to them. It’s a dig to us because society will always cater to the feelings of biological men over women even if that means us real women have to feel unsafe, uncomfortable or take second place to a biological man.''
''u gotta understand they have a lot of pressure to “pass” and it comes from a place of not being seen as valid if they dont perform feminity to the highest possible degree.''
''is the ultimate form of misogyny not forcing women to share their spaces for a man who’s feelings need validated??? sickening to these people. they claim to hate gender boundaries but take the most part in reinforcing them while skinwalking us.''
No. 2537418
>>2537267I don't know who either of these people are, but I was confused at first because I thought the woman was supposed to be the tranny and vice versa. I was like "there's no way that's a man (the one on the left)" so I felt retarded for being that terrible at clocking trannies kek
I felt even worse when I saw
>>2537377 because he looks so fucking male but I still thought he was supposed to be the woman. Turns out my instincts work perfectly fine.
In conclusion: the conservacuck woman is more naturally feminine (physically) even though she isn't performing femininity as much as the scrote. And his photo in the twitter pic is very deceptive because of the lighting and makeup, so he could be mistaken by some for an average woman with terrible posture if you only ever saw that pic of him. But the moment you look at
>>2537377 that illusion is completely shattered.
>>2537412Here's hoping it is true that the tide is turning, I've been seeing lots of posts lately about how women on social media seem to be waking up. I wonder how long it'll take until TRAs try cancelling TikTok.
Just a lil tip, anon: use > to quote other people's words, it makes them easier to read No. 2537421
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>>2537340I also like to point this out when it comes to bars, nightclubs and dating apps. Stupid people think women get cheaper drinks or easier access to clubs because of “female privilege” but the reality is that women are the bait or, in the case of dating apps, the product itself. The presence of women is what attracts men. These businesses need women to be there or else their entire business model falls apart. When women stop showing up men will stop coming too, instead migrating to wherever the women went. This is especially obvious with TIMs in lesbian spaces (pic related) but regular men do it, too.
No. 2537460
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when do you think we'll see more famous liberal celebrities peak?
No. 2537468
>>2537462Completely useless nothingburger reply.
Honestly I expect mainstream celebrities to pander to conservative culture now, so even if they publicly start saying different things about transgenderism it won't be in a feminist enlightenment kinda way. They're just mouthpieces and radfem ideas are the opposite of what every single state establishment stands for. Jk Rowling'ing out could be career ending in the political landscape of the US.
No. 2537630
>>2530219>Ross CampbellThis one was depressing. I was a huge fan of his when I was younger (have all the Wet Moon books with his dead name on them kek) but as you said, in hindsight it's a lot of fetish content. All his characters are merely sets of traits he finds sexy. I haven't revisited his work in more than a decade and I'm sure it would disgust me now. He had a book for Tokyopop that was about zombies and there were lots of pretty girls getting ripped apart in loving detail, for crying out loud. It's plain as day when you know what to see. I even looked it up on Goodreads and saw a review that reads
>"Great background art and some excellent walking corpses, but weirdly fetish-y art of young women, and the writing was in that same vein regarding young women and lesbians. Oddly sort of sexless and yet oversexualised, it ended up feeling really quite male-gazey and pervy. I love lesbian and zombie comics so this ought to have been right up my street but it actually left me with really quite a bad taste in my mouth."Troons and fetishizing lesbians, iconic combo
No. 2537674
>>2537460It will be very rare. I mean shit, think about the culture, nona.
A lot of these women were groomed as children by like nasty fat 50+ year old scrotes, they were exploited in horrific ways and literally only JUST started to kind of sort of speak out against the worst of the rapeapes (during metoo, but that has kind of died down as of late). Even then, they still cape for most moids that they think "gave them" their platform to make oodles of cash.
They are pickmes, it's their literal job to be pickme groomers and groomer enablers. You know how there's prostitutes who will recruit young girls into human trafficking by talking about how glamorous and easy prostitution is? The entertainment industry is pretty much the same thing.
Only women with REAL fuck you money who didn't get to where they were sucking scrote dick and pandering to the male gaze have the ovaries to speak out. Don't get me wrong, I would love for someone like Taylor Swift or some other pickme celeb to go full sigma and say YWNBAW but they are too deep in the sauce to risk losing it all over some stupid shit trannies.
No. 2537984
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how can someone be this fucking dense
No. 2538283
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>be me
>14 years old on tumblr
>posting suggestive pics because I’m retarded and was groomed
>grown man, 18 years my senior, would like the pictures
>find out he still has the same blog and username
>trooned out
Like clockwork
This happened in like 2012 and to see the same creep has had his “egg cracked”, mtf’s will never beat the pedo and social contagion allegations.
No. 2538290
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>>2538283>46 years oldDamn near the same age as some of the nonnies fathers on this fucking site jesus fucking christ.
No. 2538294
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very tragic
No. 2538447
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Found this comment on girly ds playlist
>girly transmasc
What an oxymoron, why can't those baby pooners/tifs just admin that they're comfortable with being a woman? This is such a retarded way of saying tomboy. Cuddlepup is such a masculine username!
No. 2538511
>>2538447Reasons of being groomed/trauma aside, they like the aesthetic of girliness without the culturally attached meanings of uselessness, stupidity, weakness, etc. So they insist they're not women to individually feel like they've shed those culturally attached stigmas of being girls/women, without realizing that the root of the problem is sex-based oppression. And this way, they still get to keep the pink, sanrio, lace, coquettecore, etc that are part of their aesthetic costume
No. 2538526
>>2533338Most women enjoy performing femininity whether theyre from first world countries or not.
>they enjoy the positive attention from it. Women say they do it for themselves. They also enjoy keeping the packagings so it's something they enjoy looking at themselves clearly.
>Women are beaten down for their looks timeBy other women most of the time. A pretty or feminine looking woman wil look that way regardless. It looks like you're trying to paint ugly womens status quo as yours which is disrespectful to them.
>if a random woman was to stop wearing makeup and "feminine" clothes the next day, she'd get a lot of rude comments one after the otherThis is delusional unless the woman looks naturally masculine which sounds more like androphobia by other women to me. Since men don't even understand how makeup works.
>Men have a genuine choice to put on makeup but for women it's nuanced and they have a legitimate reason to want to wear it (societal pressureWho creates that societal pressure? Men won't compliment or be attracted to women's makeup, it's other women that do that.
No. 2538546
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Right, pride parades didn't exist before Stonewall, neither it existed outside USA.
No. 2538580
>>2538554Yet they still choose to write about troons first because in their minds, tims were the first to start stonewall
Also kekking at how they always praise violent behaviour of tims. Male aggression is justified once the man starts wearing skirts
No. 2538644
>>2538580>>2538554lesbians donating blood to narcissistic gay misogynists was stupid, especially considering how gay men are just as megalomaniacal and sexist as nay other men. The less men out of the better.
I have yet to see a single game man who doesn't irk me in one way or another. they're still moids.
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They are so close to getting it
No. 2539253
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Poe's law strikes again.
Gendie ideology is so contradictory and inconsistent, I just saw someone in r/KingdomHearts of all places getting dogpiled for hate speech after trying to push the usual
>If he identifies as a woman, that instantly makes his voice a woman's voice!
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More from the threadpic artist, will post some infighting as well
No. 2539266
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>>2539265>trans men are always being excludedhmm i wonder why
No. 2539299
>>2539266>>2539267I almost want to make a Tumblr account and reply to that TIF with
>they always exclude you because you're a woman and they are menLike, they're
so close to getting it
No. 2539332
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>>2539329Worst part is he took that fucking piece of cake from the woman and his goal is to steal the rest of her hard earned cake by claiming he "deserves it"
I hate men. Replace them all with cartoon men
No. 2539338
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If I were the nazi guy I would yell at him "You'll never be a girl" to make him whine and cry.
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>>2538526>talking about women as though it’s a group separate from yourself>actually believing the women who claim to perform femininity “for themselves”>claiming women are meaner to other women about their looks than men>believing men are not responsible for imposing beauty standards on women>saying its delusional to think that people would be unkind to a woman who suddenly decided to stop performing femininity >androphobiaY’all aren’t gonna gaslight me on this one.
No. 2539825
>>2539299There's no point in touching the poop here. You'd just get some reply like "Eat glass and get hit with hammers,
TERF!" and then be blocked. You cannot reason with retards.
No. 2539853
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No. 2539871
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>>2538294I hate that coomer moids are the only ones who get to be trans exclusionary. It's not fair.
No. 2539940
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>>2539804He even said he always was a drag queen, not a trans woman, but even with friends saying that, people still think "she's just a hidden woman" shit.
How many handmaidens are going to say picrel?
No. 2539954
>>2539938Women DO speak out.
Online, on mainstream internet, they might not get an opportunity. Sites like reddit have a zero tolerance policy when it comes to women being gender critical. /r/
TERF and /r/Gendercritical was banned. Subreddits like /r/Radfeminism is just rebranded liberal feminism.
Handmaidens are gonna handmaiden. You lumping all women with tranny pickmes is no different to me than lumping all women in with tardwives. The very existence of this imageboard completely goes against the 'women are cowards' claim.
No shit the tranny capers appear to have the loudest voices, men don't want women forming solidarity. If we join up against ALL men it's fucking over for them. There goes their meal ticket, validation machine, housekeeper, and their bangmommy.
TERFs are denied platforms, whereas the handmaidens are given a microphone to scream "not all men!" as loud as they want.
This is patriarchy 101, nona.
No. 2539972
>>2539954I appreciate your sentiment, but they need to do more. It reminds me of the crazy amount of female streamers who didnt want to stream Hogwarts Legacy because "ugh
terf game! JKR is literally killing transpeople" when male streamers had no issues doing so. Women are speaking out, but no where near enough. I do agree with the reddit aspect and issues. they are crazy about protecting trannies over actual women.
No. 2539987
>>2539954It's crazy that reddit has an absolutely
zero tolerance policy when it comes to Gender Critical content.
And because the internet is so centralized around a handful of giants now, there's few other places to discuss these things.
No. 2540035
>>2539972honestly i think it's fair for women to be more wary about speaking out against gender ideology because when these men are fantasizing about 'punching a
terf', they aren't fantasizing about punching a well-sized male their own age, they're fantasizing about punching women. we're the target of the ire. women who stream under their own identity/revealing their face have to forever after worry about getting attacked by a shrieking grown man in a miniskirt at whatever gamer/weeb space they next choose to enter, whereas those same troons would never dare attack someone their own size/weight class.
No. 2540040
>>2539972Female streamers who did stream HL were harassed far worse than male streamers who did so, though. It’s easy to be brave when the worst response you’ll get is an “aw man I’m disappointed in you” vs death and rape threats and people trying to harass your sponsors into dropping you. In some cases when TRAs are really mad at a man (eg. Graham Linehan or the kid who coined SuperStraight) they target the guy’s female relatives who have nothing to do with whatever they’re mad about. They’re just that misogynistic.
I agree when it comes to women who shit on JKR or otherwise virtue signal unprompted, though. I can sort of understand folding as a panic response when they back you into a corner but nothing makes me lose respect for another woman faster than when she does the whole “daily reminder to burn witches uwu” shit of her own volition.
>>2540015I can’t stand that shit.
>I don’t want people to think badly of me but I still want to profit off her IP abloobloofuck offff
Just don’t post about it then? Or don’t go at all if you genuinely don’t want to put money in her pocket!
No. 2540106
>>2539972I agree. But you can't turn a blind eye when everyday I see more women actually having the ovaries to do more. I know we as women are DEEPLY conditioned to overlook and undermine the accomplishments of women, but there are more and more TERFs coming out of the woodworks.
It.Is.Dangerous.
There are outspoken TERFs showing their faces who have children, it's definitely gigastacy but it's also something that is dangerous. The troons are not above harming innocent children.
I have also seen "TERFs" who speak up but are retarded conservative pickmes, and it's a disaster for them since the moids they cape for will have no issues farming and selling her info to the point where law enforcement needed to get involved (and we both know just how proactive the law is when it comes to actually protecting at-risk women.)
A woman's struggle is uniquely hard, and I'm sorry I just can't shit on a woman who might want to sit this one out. I mostly am mad at the women who actively encourage this nonsense.
I mean for fucks sake Tray Parker and Matt Stone have been dunking on troons for decades now and no one ever shits on them. Ever.
You have to wonder if the South Park creators had been women, if they wouldn't have been murdered by now.
No. 2540157
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(sorry forgot to sage) self own
No. 2540182
>>2540155ayrt and yeah I agree I'd rather they speak out than nothing. But it's kind of exhausting that the only "TERFs" that are given a large and active platform aside from JKR are right wing women.
It would be one thing if it was women from all political spectrums equally getting a voice but if you are left-aligned as a
TERF your voice just get swept into the background by both parties. Like I would love to see a debate between a leftist and right wing
TERF since I know it would likely be civilized and the left leaning
TERF would likely be more sensible and give left wing identity politics the positive and sane light it has so desperately needed since the mid 2010s.
I just can't in good faith abandon my own leftist support due to me being supportive of the far superior leftist economic/workers rights policies, keeping law secularized, and women's reproductive freedoms. It is so disheartening to see how this gender nonsense has damn near single handedly corrupted democracy in the west.
No. 2540202
>>2540182Look up Helen Joyce interviews! Britbong
terf but she's lovely!
No. 2540214
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>>2540157>See woman who is renowned world wide for her wit and written communication skills>Try to destroy her with a pithy comment or insult>Self-own or get slapped the fuck downEvery damn time, it's like watching a swarm of flies try to overwhelm a bug zapper with weight of numbers. Remarkable.
No. 2540257
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>>2540200They’ve talked about being intersex since 2021, but they also the way they talk about themselves varies a lot. Sometimes they refer to themselves as a “cis guy” in older tweets, sometimes they say they’re a bio woman and that their doctor supposedly has them down as a trans bio woman (I can’t find the tweet rn). They mention the fact that they had gyno in one tweet and supposedly a period (if anyone can find me a case of an intersex person with a penis having a period that would be great because all I can find are articles about some Chinese guy supposedly having that but some websites have taken down that story while others still have it up). They mention being born and raised male and they only knew they were intersex at 13. Though the presence of a formed penis kinda indicates that they are male, just infertile.
No. 2540269
>>2540257Sounds like a classic case of male lying.
It's clear no matter what he says, he can't be trusted. He is likely some sort of BPD.
Born (with)
Penis
Disorder
No. 2540271
>>2540257Like
>>2540269 sais, I think it's just as likely that he's a compulsive liar who will say whatever he wants to win an argument.
No. 2540460
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>>2540257If a man has a penis and ovaries then he can have a period but IIRC it can causes severe problems because the blood has nowhere to go, which is why the organs usually have to be removed. For some reason there's been a lot of DSD fakers saying they have their period through their dick, but if you think about it for even five seconds it's an obvious lie. The female reproductive system is in no way connected to the bladder/urethra, and even if it was, the clots/uterine lining would either be impossible or EXCRUCIATING to pass through the urethra. Also kek he's already got MPB.
No. 2540516
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>>2540269>>2540271You guys are probably right. I just wanted to see if his story was consistent since he’s been claiming it for years and xx/xy people do exist so I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt.
>>2540460Oh that’s interesting I’ll read up about that tonight, I knew MRKH resulted in both sex organs (though obviously not normal development) so it probably occurs in those cases. And yeah you’re right since he also said he didn’t have functional ovaries (but still had them meaning they weren’t removed) that means he couldn’t have a period so he unknowingly contradicted himself kek.
>>2540482He claims the doctor wanted to see his genitals and they somehow found a less invasive way to check he’s intersex (they’d have to do a scan and the doctor would need some sign like gyno or hormone levels via blood testing to go through further testing but he doesn’t mention that…). And somehow he got his sex changed to female even though he has a whole ass penis just because he has gyno and (by his CURRENT admittance) non functional ovaries (this is also considering that he didn’t lie about the gyno too kek). He could have an internal vagina but again they would ask for a scan first because they’re not exactly gonna see an internal vagina… This guy is hilarious kek, I think he’s also Canadian (?).
No. 2540675
>>2540516>being gatekept from hormonesBut I've also heard him say that GC want to force him on hormones too. This guy is a retard.
Why is he sperging out about a doctor wanting to check his genitals for his intersex condition? Can this guy just shut the fuck up? I feel bad for actual intersex people who have to put up with munchies and troons on top of the other issues they have to deal with.
No. 2540743
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damn you cant even escape this shit on the transformers wiki. you just know some butthurt obsessed tranny wrote this kek
No. 2540846
>>2540675It’s a fetish. Being forced to take hormones is a fetish. Being forced to show doctors his genitalia is a fetish. Having a fully functional dick but also secretly having female anatomy is a fetish. This is a man writing about his sexual fantasies.
99,99% of the time when you see a self-described ‘intersex’ person overshare about their genitalia or other reproductive organs online you’re looking at a man with a fetish. Their stories are always inconsistent because they’re writing about whatever fantasy they’re getting off to at that moment, and those fantasies vary. It’s that simple.
No. 2540872
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don't care / don't like the strip this person is referring to. I simply wonder if these retards really think radical feminism is in any way mainstream.
No. 2540879
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The fact that most TRAs call themselves feminists when they actually don’t care about women is so disgusting to me. Joanne encompassed my exact thoughts about male trannies.
No. 2540883
>>2540870This is so retarded. Medicine doesn’t give a fuck about gender identity, diseases affect males and females in different ways. Testicular cancer won’t ask the scrote if he identifies as a man first.
This is such a waste of time.
>but hormones makes you virtually the same as the sex you are identifying !!A male on estrogen is still a male and so is a female on testosterone. Treating them as female and male respectively is malpractice.
No. 2540889
>>2539871Trannys prob dont care cuz is not like they are banning trans porn subs.
>>2539954You should know better not to use a website run by tranny pedophiles.
No. 2540951
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Made me happy to see JK retweet a Mary Cate video. Terven stacies of bongland and burgerland unite!
No. 2541053
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Anyone see the video with someone recording this gorilla entering Disney in the same exact outfit? Kek
>>2540951Actually its even better- J.K retweeting Sall posting a MK video.
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I hate these transsexuals so, so much. I work with one and he is genuinely insufferable. I used to be at least tolerant towards these "people" because I didn't really know any personally, but I'm genuinely fearing everytime he comes close to me. He makes sexually motivated statement constantly and yesterday he used the women's bathroom. I live in a fairly liberal place so most of the other women condoned his actions, but for me this was the final straw. I'm sorry for the a-log but they want to be female though they do not understand our suffering; just like skin walkers. It disgusts me. Does anyone else have experiences similar to my own? I feel quite isolated in real life as I'm surrounded by handmaidens who would unfortunately push you down in turn for the support of a wig-wearing obviously scrotal being.
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Scrolled past this last night and felt like I was staring into hell. The fact that he put her on the spot like that and all she could come up with was Luna, massive kek.
No. 2541177
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>literal who singer needs attention
>comes out with tranny song
a tale as old as time
No. 2541251
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Interesting line-up
No. 2541254
>>2541251Why is the child so
tiny kek
No. 2541273
>>2540903I'm a pretty casual TF fan, far as I've seen we don't really get many fujos and TiFs but the TiMs are an ever present pestilence.
>>2541251>Woman in a burqa or niqab>Handmaiden mom with her son she dresses like a doll for updoots>Enby TiF who thinks short hair makes her a boyChecks out. Self hating women unite, one struggle.
No. 2541280
>>2541121What a perfect illustration of how insane they look too. Self
victims are their best.
I used to work a govvie job where one of the army people was a transwoman and it was so awkward, because when he was out of uniform, he would wear short dresses and have fake nails on his man hands. My lib af coworker praised him, but all my fellow latina coworkers said "why is that man pretending to be a woman" in spanish. kek
No. 2541286
>>2541280>I used to work a govvie job where one of the army people was a transwomanWhy are so many hons active or former military? Like an dumb arse hole I'd assume the military would filter and bully them in training but I guess reality just doesn't work like that.
Has anyone ever done any kind of research on this?
No. 2541288
>>2541286Military men are porn addicts. Same reason why “nerds” are trannnies too.
Porn addiction and misogyny go hand in hand with AGP and fetishes.
No. 2541499
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Our based Stacy coming through once again. Saw this posted on Reddit and of course the comments are eviscerating her. And of COURSE they’re framing it as an evil, anti-trans fund instead of an important cause to protect women.
No. 2541510
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>>2541499I hate this shit. The fund is meant to help women. And she also does a ton of other things to help women, she even helped women flee the Taliban (see screencap)
But of course TRAs frame it like that to cause outrage on behalf on the poor troons who might not be able to force themselves into every women's space.
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>>2541499Kek I was about to post the same thing. Dramatic much?
No. 2541563
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>>2541545>>2541501Actual retardation. I guarantee on my LIFE they have never once read Rowling’s actual thoughts on the subject or seen her original “
problematic” tweets in context, or are even aware that she has trans friends. No research or reading comprehension at all, just reactionary knee jerks because men in dresses on the internet and their handmaidens said she was evil. They literally think that she’s on some kind of supervillain warpath to kill all troons
No. 2541568
>>2541556I imagine on reddit talking about women's rights sets you up for an automatic permaban due to hate speech.
I love Rowling. I love that troons say "Rowling will end up forgotten because she is such a bigot!!"
Even if we lived in clown world where it was actually wrong to tell moids to stay out of women's spaces, Rowling would still be celebrated through the ages. Just as unjustifiably racist and anti semetic scrote writers like H.B Lovecraft are celebrated today.
I get it, Rowling is a woman and there is nothing history hates more than an accomplished woman, but there's just far too much good Rowling has done, she's had far too much of a cultural impact.
Any earnest scholar who looks objectively into her life post mortem will realize that, unless you are a delusional misogynist who thinks men are more oppressed than woman, Rowling is an inherent boon to society, especially for women's rights. A spark of sanity among trannies and conservatives in the gender wars.
No. 2541609
>>2541585Been listening to the first Harry Potter book audio. Back in the day I must have read the first 4 Harry Potter books like 20 times. Maybe it's just nostalgia but there's not much more comfy than hearing about Harry Potter flying over the castle on his broom while driving around a beautiful countryside.
It must make the millennial troons seethe because they can't enjoy such a wonderful book series because Rowling won't coddle them like some virtue signaling celebrity handmaiden.
She was going through literal hell while writing a book that she probably never thought would even buy her food and shelter, she had just escaped an
abusive relationship with her shithead ex with a baby daughter and her mom had just died. She was living in a rat infested flat, now she's one of the richest people on earth, dedicating her life to helping out women and girls.
Maybe the trannies should have actually had a rational debate with her instead of bombarding her with rape/death threats back during her libfem days. But we all know ideologues who are living a lie are incapable of actual logic and reason, kek.
No. 2541614
>>2539871Dude even the fucking malesuffering sub which I’m pretty sure a farmer made to exploit this very loophole has people arguing about whether they should include trannies
>>2541177Her fingerstips are holding onto the cracks in her foundation I guess
No. 2541651
>>2541585if you don't care for the book there's always the merch or video games. like you can just get an owl plushie even if you don't care that she's harry's owl
>>2541609her latest interview in the times about her charitable work is super interesting too, she explains how she was looking into orphanages as she was writing hbp and it inspired her to campaign to help institutionalised children
No. 2541689
Nonnas you realise you can donate to many of her charities directly, right? You don’t have to buy merch you don’t care about kek
>>2541638The first ones aren’t especially feminist (in the first one especially it’s like she’s trying to mimic moid detective fiction writers imo, I feel very meh about it) but Troubled Blood is definitely written with a feminist slant! Unless your friend is very into detective fiction I’d start with one of the later ones.
No. 2541738
>>2541121I understand you perfectly nonna. I also share a workspace with a TIM in a very woke workplace/city where 95% of my coworkers put pronouns in their emails. He uses the women’s bathroom on our floor, so I use the single occupancy bathroom to avoid running into him. He’s probably autistic, he avoids work parties and social events, likely because he’s insecure about his troonism, and it’s so awkward to be alone in a room with him, I assume he’s secretly seething at me because I’m one of the 5% of people in our workplace without pronouns in their email. Whenever we do talk, he inevitably brings up troon shit, like saying he’s a lesbian, and he’s being persecuted, and it takes everything for me not to roll my eyes. I obviously can’t complain about him to our coworkers, and I can barely even complain about him to my friends because they’re also pretty woke. I usually just tell friends “I can’t stand my coworker because he’s deeply mentally ill.” If I mention he identifies as a woman I assume I’d instantly be unfriended.
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>>2541499>>2541510The most sane person in BlueSky.
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>>2541772>Die cis scum! How dare you watch Harry PotterI am going to Harry Potter theme park next year. I will buy a butterbeer.
TY trannies for rekindling my love for the franchise.
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>>2541809>>2541828>>2541839I will decide whether or not I like Harry Potter theme park butterbeer once I buy it.
After a fun filled (presumably tranny free) day at the Harry Potter theme park,I will give a nice donation to JK Rowlings rape/dv shelter that bans moids from defiling it's sacred halls.
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Nonnies, how would you rate the following from most AGP to most HSTS?
>Contra
>Philosophytube
>Dylan
>Kim Petras
>Hunter Schafer
No. 2542095
>>2542072sure nona I'll give it a go
Starting with the most AGP, I'd say
PhilosophyTube (Trooned out to skinwalk contra)
ContraPoints (To be honest I know very little about this one. His horseface annoys me away from even seeking out his content to make fun of him)
Hunter (Gay, but that journal entry…)
Dylan (definitely a theater gay, but his obsession with girlhood specifically and the way he says transition "changed" his sexuality also give me AGP vibes)
Kim Petras (very vulgar and pornified, but he seems more like he's trying to appeal to straight (self hating bisexual) moids/skinwalk similar female acts that usually have less explicit lyrics or more clever wordplay)
No. 2542104
>>2541585>if you don't care for the book there's always the merch or video gamesThis, I already bought Hogwarts Legacy on Steam. Even if I haven't played it yet, I shared my library with my sister and she loves it.
>>2541121>I'm sorry for the a-logAnon, you're not a-logging, so don't worry. A-logging would be wishing them harm; saying that they're men skinwalking us is just stating the truth, though they pretend that it's the same as wishing them death.
No. 2542131
>>2541251I wonder what the average niqab wearing muslim woman would think of those AGP troons who "convert" to Islam because they have some kind of weird hijab fetish
>>2541563I honestly think JK spends too much time fighting on Twitter but she's someone who actually lives out her values irl and puts her money where her mouth is. Unlike most of these people who virtue signal for le epic upvotes
No. 2542247
>>2541292>>2541286>>2541290what said
>>2541288 is more accurate, according to my brother-in-law, who served in the military, he told me that porn was a widespread problem on base. all the bathrooms were filled with men masturbating multiple times a day. he even said that there were porn magazines literally everywhere, so the core of agp seems to be porn addiction
No. 2542427
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i'm sick to my teeth of gendie ideology making its way into everything, even more so when genuinely talented older lgb people support it. ian mckellen, why? i'd argue shakespeare's plays dealt more with sexuality than "gender", yet you don't see anyone drumming up hype for an all-lgb shakespeare production. inb4 footage of this production is released and all the leading female characters are played by hulking troons
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what the fuck
No. 2542515
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>>2542427Gandalf, nooooo!
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>>2542427>>2542515How disappointing, at his age he should know better.
No. 2542560
>>2539940None lmfaoooo. I doubt he even plays sports. He just wants to know at the back of his mind that he has the
opportunity to invade whatever he wants.
I dont even think handmaidens truly care about troons that much. Most are he/theys or transtrenders themselves
No. 2542566
>>2542520>Men don't stay looking like this for long btw. Maybe 5-6 years tops before they go into ogre mode.That's not fair
nonnie.
Some of them go into Gollum mode.
No. 2542760
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This is what they think of us
No. 2542786
>>2542760This is disturbing. My daughter's room looks like this. She just turned five.
I hate men. I hate pedophile men. I hate troon men. I hate them all.
No. 2542904
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>>2542760It's almost funny to think that in their minds they genuinely think they look like "sexy bimbos" when in reality they look like nightmare-inducing monsters.
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No. 2543083
>>2542904Remember when AGP was a textbook red flag for male serial killers along with extreme porn addiction? But now it’s totally
valid. This shit is so bleak.
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>>2543034>There has to be a correlation between doing this shit and a complete lack of empathyI'm totally in agreement with you on this, during my handmaid phase (sorry) the parasitic AGPs I'd sometimes spend time with were without exception the kind of moids that speak only in rambling autobiographical monologues. Zero awareness that the other people present might want to get a word in or might possibly not be interested in hearing him talk about how autistic he is for thirty minutes straight.
Just by choosing to go out dressed like lollipedo toddlers they kind of show their lack of care for how other people feel.
No. 2543168
>>2542999>>2543143I truly believe that all AGPs/troons are sociopathic autistic men with no empathy for others. They have the brains of special ed children, but in a sexually aggressive fully grown male body and it's genuinely terrifying. And same
>>2543143, I had a male "friend" back in the day and I slowly distanced myself from him because every time we spoke, he only talked about himself and whined and complained about some new drama in his life that he was
always the
victim in. I heard from a mutual friend that he later got arrested for domestic violence and tried to choke his girlfriend during an argument. And he ended up trooning out about a year ago (of course). I saw it coming from a mile away.
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They are so stupid Kek
No. 2543421
>>2534428Late but I'm the anon who crossposted and yes it is the first time I saw it, I'm glad you posted it because it really does showcase how utterly unsophisticated troon arguments are when they don't have a conservative to argue against. I wish more of them could be convinced to do these debates, with e.g. Helen Joyce for instance, now that the troon issue is so controversial and in the media all the time. I bet a lot of people would peak.
>>2534432I doubt that moid is gay but I agree completely. Just continuously repeating 'you don't have the right to feel safe' while whining that he himself doesn't feel safe in the male bathroom… yeah it's pretty obvious what this all boils down to.
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literally all they want to do is groom and indoctrinate kids into thinking they are normal. I dont like trump but i hope he finally outlaws this shit once and for all. this was on a post about a TIF getting happy that a 6 year old randomly said that they are a “boy girl”
No. 2543556
>>2543545Kek they're saying the quiet part out loud again.
>children take in almost any info they receive as fact…exactly, which is why is means nothing that a Redditor can convince a five year old "her aunt grew up as a boy." Receiving the validation of children is not hard. They also believe a fat man crawls down their chimney to eat cookies and leave gifts.
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>>2541787Based
nonnieI'm buying the HP bookset for my niece when she's old enough to read and I'm buying the Hogwarts legacy sequel as well. Someday I'll visit the theme park when I have the funds for it.
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some of this account is a garden variety blackpill schizo (pluverapickles) but a lot of it is shit like this or purposeful misinterpretations of a post, like picrel complimenting what i guess was a regular twink using she/her but the blog owner claims it was a literal child
No. 2543629
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>>2543628double post but it's such a severe reach to claim it's a fetish, why do they think it goes both ways.
>uwu my euphoria boner grr going to spike this cute girl's (she doesn't know she's a girl yet) tea with hrt tehe grrr youngshits with huge tits ggrr grrrr is obviously a fetish
>i wish young women wouldn't cut off their breasts and self-harmis not, i really don't get it
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>>2543629>I hope you puke and scream each time you have terf thoughts and no one can understand you through the chokes and gasps for air as you dieWhat an odd thing to say. Anyways I laughed at a tranny today when I got a grain bowl for lunch, what about you guys?
No. 2543683
>>2543673You reminded me of this post
>>2541897I would not be able to hold back my laughter if I saw a tranny in public. Hell I even cackled when I read that post and imagined the tranny kek
No. 2543687
>>2543683Kekkk, I literally went to get a grain bowl because that nonna’s post made me crave one. I couldn’t hide my amusement when I got there and there was
also a tranny in line getting a bowl. Perhaps it was destiny.
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I found it funny how trannies always praise their neovaginas are better than the real thing (mostly cope ik) but we can always tell because how weird it is compared to the og - walls are too thin, constructed weirdly, and lack of a clit.
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>>2543545>>2543550He also seems to have accumulated over 100,000 Reddit karma in less than 2 years. He also likes to post his little serial killer ramblings to the journaling sub. Reminds me of nonnies posting here about how this trans stuff is just an intense fracturing of one’s sense of self and a way to be suicidal without having to go all the way, killing your “old self”. You saw it with that I Saw the TV Glow movie as well, where it felt like it was saying the main character
should have killed himself too. I feel a little bad because it looks like this person had some kind of cancer and refers to their old self with disgust and as “cancer riddled”. I’m willing to bet he never received proper counseling for that. And yeah he’s definitely getting his observations about children from creeping on them in Roblox. If not, I seriously doubt the adults in his life would let him around their kids anymore after seeing stuff like this. Love how he had to mention longing for big boobs in this kek. Truly so tortured. Reminds me of Hunter Schafer
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Imagine having this much internalized misogyny. Looks like all of this woman’s intelligence was wasted on her art skills, leaving her stupid in other areas.
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I despise handmaidens and hope they are mocked when transgenderism continues to get less and less acceptable
No. 2544092
>>2544040What are these despicable acts? Oh, protecting women and girls.
Honestly, the histrionics and hit pieces are severely twisting what the fund is for. It isn't just for trans shit but, of course, they focus on the only thing they think will happen and not what will actually happen. IE: a woman using the fund because she refuses to call a scrote a woman. It's a possibility of what the fund could be used for, not what it is.
The fact they can't distinguish the difference and keep plugging in whatever they want to hear is telling. I mean. These people literally want us to deny biological reality at every turn and sincerely think you can meme yourself to reality.
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>>2543919origami dicks is a way better name than neovaginas kek
No. 2544195
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I have some questions nonas!
>At what age did you first hear about troonism?
>What age did you then "buy into it"* (if you did)?
*like you thought about it more extensively, supported trans rights and thought it was a big deal (as opposed to just casually knowing it's a thing that exists)
>What age did you peak, and thus how long was your pro-trans/handmaiden period?
My own answers are that I heard about it on tumblr when I was 12-13 and somewhere around 16 I was fully indoctrinated and reblogged a whole lot of pro-trans lies like a good little brainwashed ally. I lost interest at 19 or so (when I quit tumblr…) but was casually still a big supporter in theory. It took until I was around 22 when my friend peaked me. So in total I spent maybe 7-8 years in the cult, with 2 years of slowly getting groomed by seeing it everywhere first.
I think it can be useful to see how long the troon period lasts before someone peaks on average. I once heard that 6-8 years is a typical length of time after which a person regrets their transition and detransitions so I thought it was interesting that I fell into the same time.
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>>2543629these are the comments on xe/xer/xhey’s post LMFAO. apparently tumblr isnt too bad of a woke echo chamber unlike reddit. its scary the unfiltered and untreated mental illness that gets to live on it like a parasitic disease
No. 2544226
>>2544156>What red flags can women look for before reproducing with these assholes?Apart from porn addiction (which is obviously a red flag in general), I think one of the biggest red flags is simply them having male trans friends. Especially if it's mainly online because they then get fooled by photos and filters and think their friend passes - and that they themselves can also pass. If they see an ugly man in a dress squeal like mickey mouse with a 5 o'clock shadow in person they're a little less likely to buy into the fantasy that it could work. But that irl friend IS also a risk. He should have 0 male trans friends if he respects women.
Another red flag is if his friend groups have a lot of female handmaidens. He as a straight man can see them praise and dote on every ugly ass troon as if he was a "goddess" and wants the same attention from females since he's a straight man (especially when the pregnant partner/new born gets all the attention will he seethe and try to get attention too because he feels left out). And if he tells any of the handmaiden friends he is jealous of Athena McTroony getting told "she's" beautiful all the time, they will then immediately jump on it and go "omg egg! you must be feeling that way because you're trans too!" and spur him on and love-bomb him until he's fully onboard with it.
No. 2544230
>>2544132>>2544156Abusive men try to trap their wives when they are vulnerable after events like marriage or pregnancy. I guess the best bet is to establish open hatred of troons and misogyny early on and make sure the man knows you will leave him if he ever tries to troon out. Also to have an actual social circle that will be there for you. The cluster B-type troons try to use troonphobia as a way to manipulate people into siding with them. Read Why Does He Do That?
>>2544195>At what age did you first hear about troonism?11ish around the early 2010s gay marriage debate and lgbt spotlight
>What age did you then "buy into it"* (if you did)?I never actually thought they were really women but just quiet poor souls who wanted to integrate into "womenhood" and mind their own business. I didn't think about it much at first but stuff like nonbinary and genderfluid really didn't make sense to me. I just went along with it because I was fixated to the lgbt movement as a teen. I also didn't want to be a bigot or shunned by my peers.
>What age did you peak, and thus how long was your pro-trans/handmaiden period?Around 2015 I actively thought about how nonbinary stuff didn't make sense. Around 2016 on Tumblr terfhunting really really took off. I was curious what these terfs were since everyone warned everyone else about them. I read what they had to say and peaked. It felt like leaving a religion. I even tried to repress my thoughts to fit in, but it didn't feel right to actively lie about what I actually believe. I've stopped doing that a long time ago and am open about my beliefs to friends and family.
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>>2544233 samefag, and he looks atrocious. his account is a goldmine. autism checks out
No. 2544276
>>2544195>At what age did you first hear about troonism?I don't remember too specifically, sometime in elementary school there was something about trannies on the TV and my mom briefly explained it to me. I was maybe 8 or 9.
>What age did you then "buy into it"* (if you did)?Sometime in middle school, hen I realized I liked women and started looking at lgbt online communities. This was a few years before trans shit really blew up but I remember being annoyed at trannies taking up a bunch of space complaining about their issues when it wasn't what I was there for kek. I was never a hardcore TRA but I did believe they had a legitimate struggle and had some sympathy for them, and found the whole thing vaguely interesting. I didn't think they were the literally the opposite sex but I thought they were
victims of some unfortunate brain chemistry and believed them that they needed to transition to be okay.
>What age did you peak, and thus how long was your pro-trans/handmaiden period?I can't remember a specific moment when I peaked, I thought genderspecials on tumblr were retarded and by the end of high school I was thoroughly peaked on the whole thing just from what I witnessed online.
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>>2544195>At what age did you first hear about troonism?I don't remember but I started hearing about it when I discovered the tumblr in action subreddit when Peterson was popping up.
>What age did you then "buy into it"* (if you did)?Never did tbh but I thought ones like Blaire, whom actively admitted they were never a woman we're decent
>What age did you peak, and thus how long was your pro-trans/handmaiden period?started disliking all trannies when I discovered lolcow's mtf thread
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>>2544195>At what age did you first hear about troonism?18
>What age did you then "buy into it"* (if you did)?Never
>What age did you peakAs soon as I encountered troons online and saw their disgusting AGP visages
>and thus how long was your pro-trans/handmaiden period?Didn't happen
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>>2544195>At what age did you first hear about troonism?It was 2016, right after gay marriage was legitimized. I was like 13-14.
>What age did you then "buy into it"* (if you did)?At some point, I ended up believing the TWAW thing and watching Blaire White and shit. In 2018, I was convinced I was a troon. It didn't help that puberty is traumatizing as fuck. And my periods were painful enough for me to be suicidal.
>What age did you peak, and thus how long was your pro-trans/handmaiden period?2019-2020 came around and I was planning to run away to transition fully instead of just dreaming about it, but then covid happened and I finally decided to check out this website because PULL shutdown and I wanted to read some internet drama to keep me from killing myself. I vaguely knew about this site because of PULL and Kiwifarms, but never touched it before PULL shutdown. And I've been troon-free since, it only took me 4 years to escape.
No. 2544324
>>2544195>At what age did you first hear about troonism?I probably was vaguely familiar with the concept of cross dressers and transvestites from a young age, but encountered the whole transgender thing as a social movement on tumblr in 2014 after Leelah Alcorn died.
>What age did you then "buy into it"* (if you did)?I was a true and honest believer from the start. I was a theater kid and had several gay male friends. I also loved the Rocky Horror Picture Show so I just kinda saw them as turbo gays. I distinctly remember being in college (~2015/2016) and asking a male friend who was “sex positive” and all that questions about it. I wasn’t trying to do a gotcha but was genuinely confused. I said, “You know how gender is supposed to be a social construct? How does that explain trans people then? Aren’t those ideas contradictory?” He seemed confused by the question itself and was unable to answer it. In a conversation with a group of friends that included him, I said I wouldn’t be sure if I’d be comfortable dating a trans person. No one confronted me but the vibe got awkward and quiet after that. I felt so guilty that I never brought it up again.
>What age did you peak?It was 2018, so I would’ve been 21. I was reading articles on jezebel (lol I know) and came across one like “Why your period protests aren’t feminist” and was curious. The photo accompanying the article had pads stuck to walls in protest in Pakistan or India. I thought their argument would be along the lines of it being wasteful to stick the pads places when you could donate them to homeless shelters or something. Nope. This woman(I think? Don’t remember if it was a troon or handmaiden) was claiming that by calling period protests feminist, you’re linking periods to womanhood and that’s transphobic. There were tons of arguments about it in the comments and lots of women were rightfully pissed. That’s where I first saw the terms
TERF and gender critical and the rest was history. I found the old gender critical subreddit and there was no turning back. I had finally found answers to all the questions I had and it was both extremely liberating and isolating.
So yeah, 4 years for me.
No. 2544335
>>2544195>At what age did you first hear about troonism?I'm not sure, cause tranny/crossdresser jokes were on TV but I guess for social justice movement I was in highschool, around 15 in late 2000s, early 2010s.
>What age did you then "buy into it"* (if you did)?I never did. my first exposure was in HS health class when my teacher played a video about normal teen problems, one of the people in it was Non Binary. She basically described it as some days she wears bow ties and some days she wears dresses, and is oppressed by the girl/boy division in the toy aisle (literally). I've been skeptical ever since. At best I excused it in the HSTS "extreme gay" type.
>What age did you peak, and thus how long was your pro-trans/handmaiden period?Tbh I think that HS health video, and a tumblrtard friend at the type saying she saw me as "genderless" peaked me. I did struggle with some gender role stereotypes, but always in the way of "we need to expand the idea of female behavior" rather than "I'm not behaving like stereotypical females so I must not be one" way
No. 2544336
>>2544195>At what age did you first hear about troonism?Highschool
>translator I knew about for manga/games referred to themselves as a lesbian born in a man's body on his website >school acquaintance was dating a guy who trooned out >What age did you then "buy into it"* (if you did)?I didn't because my hs friends said the troon in question was an asshole
>What age did you peak, and thus how long was your pro-trans/handmaiden period?I don't think I ever really had one. It just seemed like mental illness to me, like when a childhood friend's husband trooned out she started identifying as nb not long after and now calls herself trans. And I had a coworker whose autistic daughter trooned out in college after becoming an anorexic in hs, so I got to hear about all that drama.
No. 2544337
>>2544195>At what age did you first hear about troonism?19, back in 2009 when I met my first tif and tim. The tif was a fujo obsessed with Sebastian from Kuroshit and the tim was a gay man from a highly religious household that had managed to crawl his way back to our country after having been sent to a straight camp by his family.
>What age did you then "buy into it"* (if you did)?I did it somewhat on a surface level already from the start, since at the time troons had to jump through a lot of hoops and years of strict therapy (and if they shoved any continuous emotional instability through something like self-harm they'd get kicked out from the program or have to start over from square one) to even get prescribed hormones. So I figured at the time that if you had to go through all of that then I guess they must really identify as the opposite gender. But at the same time I kept silently questioning it more and more as time went on, since I couldn't fully buy into it since it kept moving the goalposts and all the contradictions in their logic.
>What age did you peak, and thus how long was your pro-trans/handmaiden period?When I was like… 26 or 27, I guess? I had started visiting
terf blogs and the realization that I could no longer voice my opinions on it without receiving social scrutiny hit me like a brick. When the TRA discussion started to pick up some pace at the start I could pretty much tell my friends I didn't really take want to take part of it because I grew up in a feminist household that had a lot of focus on abolishing gender roles and stereotypes, and that I felt a lot in the TRA philosophy didn't align with those core believes of mine - but that I would love to have a discussion where socially ingrained gender roles/stereotypes ends and gender identity starts. Back then people were really fine with that, but I realized at 26/27-ish that I couldn't say anything like that anymore if I didn't want to be ostracized.
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>>2544379someone needs to start a criminal case against this bs.
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Does anyone else feel hopeless over the troon stuff? I feel like there is absolutely no winning. Republicans are the only ones who do stuff in regards to troons but only because they believe in strict gender roles not out of protection for women. And progressives are hell bent on protecting troons and giving them everything they want at the expense of real women who they largely ignore. I just feel like we're stuck in hell no matter what.
No. 2544564
>>2544195>At what age did you first hear about troonism?approx 12. found out about jazz jennings.
>What age did you then "buy into it"* (if you did)?same age i found out about it. i was extremely susceptible as a child and teen and couldn’t really think critically or for myself. had a friend who became a tif and the rest is history. at 14-15 i started thinking i was a theyfab. would frequent tumblr and became a perpetuator of callout culture as a result, i was convinced that the radfem/
terf movement was some evil cult that’s trying to scoop up anyone they could find, and i started to talk shit about anyone who wasn’t politically correct.
>What age did you peak, and thus how long was your pro-trans/handmaiden period?18. started lurking this site, and realized that there was a lot that i didn’t know when i was in my teens, and that was when everything started to make sense. started accepting that i was just a lesbian in denial
and that trooning out was a result of puberty and teen boys making sexual remarks about me and i apologized to a woman i shit talked for being a radfem. it took me 4 years to escape the movement, and i was lucky enough for my old shitty political opinions to not corrode my adulthood.
No. 2544653
>>2544195>>At what age did you first hear about troonism?I first heard the word "tranny" when I was like 15 back in 2005 but I didn't really look more into that stuff until about 2014/2015 when I discovered Blaire White on YouTube.
>>What age did you then "buy into it"* (if you did)?I was around 23 when I discovered Blaire's channel and just accepted it. I initially thought that most of these "trans" were gay men who were trapped in women's bodies (yeah I know lol). I had no idea about AGP or even TIFs until a little after I started looking more into the concept of trans.
>>What age did you peak, and thus how long was your pro-trans/handmaiden period?I peaked in 2017 when I learned more about autogynephilia after discovering a YouTube channel called Mancheeze The Great who then opened up the community of gender critical who just laid into how ridiculous trans ideology really was and especially detailed autogynephilia.
A bonus thing that also helped peak was when I noticed how many of the video game fandom and art fandoms I was in had a ton of AGP TIMs and "gendie" women, it was becoming borderline impossible to find other women who did not identify as some gender identity and when I would read their personal stories on why they were women, it just all came off as self hatred of their sex ("gender"), the internalized misogyny was just so apparent.
No. 2544748
>>2544195>At what age did you first hear about troonism?I was about 14 or 15. I was a teen in the 2010s who was just discovering feminism through Tumblr. It was that era where gay marriage was a big topic, and trans stuff was occasionally bundled into it. Bruce Jenner was a big deal.
>What age did you then "buy into it"* (if you did)?I'm not sure I ever fully bought into it. I had doubts but I was told that they weren't hurting anyone and "just wanted to pee" so I tried really hard to be sensitive to the issue. I would say all the right things in public even though the logic didn't add up to me. Basically I didn't let myself think about it too hard. I was always stereotypically feminine so I never really thought about gender at all. I just wanted to be a good person so I went along with it in public. A couple of my high school friends transitioned. I would use their new name and pronouns to their faces, but in private all of our friends never did, and we all admitted we still saw them as their birth genders. There was a TiF and a TiM and they were both the stereotype. TiF was a very autistic nerd who wasn't conventionally feminine. The TIM was a stereotypical hentai coomer 4chan addict. Even at the time I could tell why these people were trooning out but I played along with their delusions. Once I finished school I never saw them again.
>What age did you peak, and thus how long was your pro-trans/handmaiden period?At some point I deleted Tumblr and started following cow threads on here. I was initially so shocked at the overt trans hate on here but then I found the detrans thread and it confirmed every doubt that I'd ever had. I must've been in my early 20s. Like I said I knew why these people were trooning out, but I thought it was too mean spirited to criticise and maybe they were really "trapped in the wrong body" as they said. Hearing anons here say that T ruined their bodies, or they got surgeries they now regret and have to live with all because they were insecure teenagers made me so upset. As for TiMs I've always seen them for what they are, but I feel for all of the poor women who got lured into this. It really is a cult. Most of my friends my age are handmaidens, but I can talk about this stuff on here or with older family members. What I care about the most right now is making sure my nieces don't fall into this trap and end up harming themselves. Thankfully I think a lot of younger zoomers and gen alpha think trans is cringe and lame. I hope it stays that way.
No. 2544761
>>2544195>At what age did you first hear about troonism?when i was 12 or something, icarly had a joke segment about a pregnant man kekkk. it was a TIF but i didnt know/understand at the time and thought it was absurd
>What age did you then "buy into it"* (if you did)?maybe age 15 or something, i joined tumblr and was already big on feminism and lgb activism. i had a couple TIF friends and was sympathetic so i learned more about transgenderism. i said some “transphobic” stuff a couple times and overcorrected, tumblr was really big on callouts so i blindly followed what everyone else was doing to not stir up any trouble. around age 18 i started identifying as trans due to sexual trauma
>What age did you peak, and thus how long was your pro-trans/handmaiden period?more recently, age 27. probably 12 years of handmaidenry. i used to be really for feminism and lgb rights so it’s sad to me that current trans activism is so outwardly homophobic, misogynistic, and rapey. all of that caused me to peak, especially with the TIM infiltration on tumblr kek
it was definitely easier to support trans issues with TIFs as the figureheads but get confused why a TIF would still wear her hijab and call it affirming, or why clothes = gender, but the logical fallacies are way more in your face these days
No. 2544929
>>2544195>At what age did you first hear about troonism?I think I'd heard about "trannies" in tv and movies from a young age, but I learned that it was a real life-path when I was 12.
>What age did you then "buy into it"* (if you did)?I immediately decided I wanted to present myself as a FtM.
I didn't actually "feel like" one innately, but it felt like a choice I was making. I wanted to be more masculine than the other girls, and I had internalized a metric shit-ton of misogyny in my early years. I'd also watched a shitload of porn to try to make myself more "mature", but it was really just like funneling dozens of hours of woman-abuse into my mind, making me hate everything about myself that reminded me of those other women. Initially, I was only hanging around other TIFs. Then, a bunch of the dudes in my online friend group also trooned out. I could immediately tell that they were just weird guys with weird ideas about women distorted from the porn and tv they watch. So I didn't think of them as "women" until one of my TIF idols started lashing out at other TIFs for being "bad allies" to the absolutely most vulnerable oppressed demographic ever: trans wahmen. She got onto us for favoring other TIFs instead of lavishing attention on greasy misogynistic porn-addicted men. I loved her art and her personality. She was a self-styled 18-year-old activist in art school so I took her word a lot more seriously than I really should have. Plus she was legitimately diagnosed schizophrenic, but I was so young I wanted to believe that her magic was real. So I didn't want to think of how her disease was affecting her cognition.
>What age did you peak, and thus how long was your pro-trans/handmaiden period?I detransed at 19, peaked at 20. I tried to be a troon ally after detransition, but the TIMs were so fucking hostile to me over nothing. If I tried to write about my own life experiences, they'd tell me to keep it quiet for the sake of THEIR lives. The message was clear that my life didn't matter if I didn't fit their narrative, if I didn't want to play pretend that these fucking men are more important than me. Their attitude never changed, pre or post transition. Same old shit. "Males matter more than females. Females just need to shut up. Don't be so sensitive, it's just a joke. Rape is funny. Pussies are gross. I deserve better than you. I should be allowed to shit-talk you as much as I want, and you should never be able to say anything back to me. Take it, bitch."
I realized that my normie male friends treated me better than any of these fucking "feminist" TIMs. They spent so much time trying to convince TIFs that normies are the devil and TIMs are our saviours. It's a cult attitude. They find ways to manipulate the ideology to their liking, then they shame you for not living up to the ideological "morals" that they've just defined. I guess that's what I get for trying to be nice to dysgenics.
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>>2544761>when i was 12 or something, icarly had a joke segment about a pregnant man kekkk. it was a TIF but i didnt know/understand at the time and thought it was absurdHoly shit, this was also my first exposure to troons. I was even younger when I saw that, probably ten. I wonder who the pregnant TiF in that photo was.
The first troon I personally met was my brother's friend. I want to say it was around 2011, and I was sitting on the couch with my dad and my brother, when my brother mentioned that his friend Lee (not his actual name) was transitioning to "become a lesbian woman." Both my dad and I were mystified by this, because at the time we were only familiar with HSTSes who ostensibly transitioned to appear straight and escape homophobia. The idea of a man being attracted to women but intentionally making himself less appealing to them perplexed us. His friend trooned out and is still "presenting as a woman" today. He does not pass very well. When my middle-aged cousin (who did not know him pre-transition and didn't know he was a troon) met him, she thought something was "off" about him. I think she assumed that he was a woman with Down Syndrome or some other developmental disorder at first because he's ugly and has a deep voice. When we explained that he was a TiM, she said it made sense. Even when people don't necessarily know that a person is trans, they can still sense that something is "off" about them.
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>>2544761>pregnant manYou just brought back memories of this being all over the news. I think this is the first time I heard about Trans people.
No. 2545051
>>2544195I started hearing about trannies around 2010-ish, but I didn't really hear more about until a few years later on tumblr. I met my first trans person irl around 2015, I think? They were 19 years old FTM and I thought "Okay, that's fine…" so i was okay with trans stuff until I started seeing more TIMS in women only spaces like bathrooms, sports etc. I ended up reading more articles about how FTM think they are women and it dawned on me that it was a fetish. A woman face thing.
>what age did you peak?I peaked hard in 2018 (in my late 20s) and started trying to peak people around me. I think JKR helped support my will to peak and I consider myself a
TERF openly.
No. 2545057
>>2544092I have yet to see why people can't stand JKR yet and wish her death. Someone made a shitty IG post about how she should use her money for good, and someone replied "She is. She is using it to help women and opened a shelter for DA
victims…No men allowed." People hate that she only helps women, but why arent the trannies and TRAs making their own spaces instead of demanding women do this for them??
No. 2545117
>>2544195>At what age did you first hear about troonism?In the general sense (men in dresses, transvestites etc) idk but in the tumblr sense (twaw) around 12 which was when I got a tumblr
>What age did you then "buy into it"* (if you did)?Immediately bought into it at 12 and started identifying as an ftm. When you're young you're more malleable I think
>What age did you peak, and thus how long was your pro-trans/handmaiden period?Around 17 so about 5 years. To be honest at first all the troons I knew were online and I didn't engage a lot with them directly (and the times I did engage with mtfs they were creepy as fuck). I was the first to hop on the troon bandwagon in my area, but eventually others including a lot of my friends (weeby girls) also started going ftm. It was a combination of the fact that a lot of the people who were now troons had been racist
to me in the past and the secondhand cringe they gave off that made me drop all of it
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>>2544195>At what age did you first hear about troonism?I think I was aware of trans women existing quite young but I got into the whole nonbinary bullshit around age 14/15, because tumblr
>What age did you then "buy into it"Same age, and I didn't just buy into it and then started IDing as some flavour of nonbinary and then a trans man. Kind of insane because I never 100% agreed with or even understood the fucking basic ideology- and thought a lot of what they said made absolutely no sense. I basically hated being a woman and myself and wanted some kind of escape from that. I wasn't even into trans rights activism and have 0 other trans friends. Never really experienced transphobia, everyone was nice to me and I just went about on my daily I'm a man larp no problems. I just said being trans was an innate part of me that I couldn't do anything about. Never really believed that trans men/women are the same as their "cis" counterparts, always felt like a woman who was pretending to be/looked like a man.
>What age did you peak, and thus how long was your pro-trans/handmaiden period?About a 3 months ago at age 27. I'd had moments of near peaking but I think your brain actively tries to prevent a realisation like that. So over a decade, and about 10 years of living a "man". I really only passed somewhat consistently for the last 3 years or so, since I got top surgery, which is when I started to get extremely depressed. Still trying to get my head around how that happened without wanting to it end it all kek. But I do feel so much better and thank god I'm out. Does feel like deprogamming from a cult and I genuinely think it's done some fucked up shit to my brain.
No. 2545182
>>2544195I first heard about it when I was like… 11 or 12 on tumblr. This led to me id-ing as all sorts of nonbinary shit for years until I decided I was FTM at like 14 or so. I think I was 18 or 17 when I just had an epiphany, idk what even
triggered it, but I realized I could just.. stop being trans and just be myself and stop angsting all the time over not being a male. And that theres nothing wrong with being a female. It was honestly so freeing it felt like that meme of the guy breaking the chains except it was me breaking the chains of thinking I needed to be a moid to be happy. I just thank god I grew up with a conservative family that vehemently refused to let me transition in any way besides having a pixie cut. If I was allowed to transition I almost 100% wouldve killed myself by now, and Im scared thinking of how many childhood transitioners are going to actually do that in the future with how common its becoming…
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Some important discourse going on in the trans and trans allied community
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>>2545272Part 2 of the things that are OK to say if you're trans
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>>2545273The thrilling conclusion
No. 2545364
>>2538511It doesn't even make sense that they want to be "girly men". Are they oblivious to how gender non-conforming men (not the AGP ones) are treated IRL? They get mocked by other men or even get assaulted or killed for it. That and men think anything and everything is gay under the sun.
It's like their only exposure to "girly men" are those femboy drawings.
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>>2545057People (ahem trannies) have such a hateboner for JK they don't even know what they're complaining about anymore.
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Apparently some troon that was defending killing people for misgendering them on twitter is a kiddie diddler
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>>2544195I peaked once I met my first tranny irl. He was a complete loner asshole and wore a lingerie set to WORK— he didn’t even get sent home because at the management team didn’t want to be seen as transphobic. Yet, the next week a girl in my department got sent home for wearing shorts that didn’t quite reach the knee. This was not an office, but a casual grocery store. I live in PDX for context, that’s how a tranny could get away with such behavior (if you live in here, you might even be able to guess the store chain kek). There were a lot of whispers about the double standards amongst the women there when that happened.
>picrel is what he wore No. 2545600
>>2545576Its male privilege. The grocery store sees the troons woman costume as a joke since no one actually wants to sexually harass this whole ass male.
Meanwhile women are "distracting" to the male gaze.
Imo men should be forced to wear a he-jab. Cover their whole ass body with a trash bag. Especially that bald ass head. I don't wanna see an inch of ugly male skin ever again.
No. 2545646
>>2545364well i don't think they really care about the reality of this, since they also don't care about the reality that they're female. Maybe it's a dream for a better world. Maybe it's about wanting to create your own good man, since they obviously can't control the bad men. So many of these men's standards of masculinity are completely bogus retarded horseshit. The fact that they get violent over it doesn't change anything. Force doesn't make it correct. Those masculine scrotes could all die out, and the real girly men would still be xy's. For the straight ones, I think it's about becoming their own "safe" boyfriend. Just like they'd think a girly man is less of a threat to them than a normie masc man.
I think the logic of autogenderphilia is that if you're attracted to the opposite sex, then they have a 'power' and an influence over you. So by becoming that gender, then you gain the same power over yourself. They believe that they won't crave the approval of the opposite sex anymore because they're attracted to themselves. For some of them, this isn't true. Maybe it's more delusion and hope than truth. Once they get to the other side, they are totally disappointed that they can't catch the magic in a bottle and keep it.
I think a lot of these femboy tifs are autoandrophiles. They're disappointed with the reality of their dating pool. I think the early segregation of the sexes in early childhood also contributes to it. Because then males and females socilaize in different ways. Then, there's a huge learning curve to interact with the opposite sex. Then there's the loyalty to your own "team". Girls rule, boys drool, etc. So you see some people who would rather have a hetero partner who acts more like a member of the same sex, "a man/woman who really understands me". I think that's part of the appeal of femboys: a man who doesn't buy into all the retarded misogynistic horseshit. What signifies disloyalty to the bro code more clearly than dressing like the opposite sex?
Well, the reality of it is cruel.
No. 2545719
>>2544195>at what age did you hear/buy into troonism?Probably when I was 14-16 around 2013. I was at my peak tumblrina phase and I thought troonism was normal because of how the lgb campaign was for full acceptance at the time. It was also when I turned 15 that some of my classmates began turning into Gaydens and p sure there was a HSTS in my high-school as well.
Around I wanna say 17 was when I was secretly a gendie using neutral pronouns but it was never a serious thing for me. I ended up realizing I'm just a tomboyish girl and that being a feminine woman is not uncool or w/e the gendie cult thinks.
>What age did your handmaiden phase end?Honestly it ended for sure by 2023. I was practically brainwashed into acceptance but my best friend was peaking me for a good 5 years prior. It helped that she and I just pay attention to news articles about how violent TIMs are not to mention how fuck awfully dramatic TIFs were in my personal life to finally peak me.
The true nail in the coffin was meeting TIMs irl and realizing they're just severely autistic incels who think they're pretty girls because other troglodyte men wanna fuck them with the lights off. Not to mention how creepy TIMs will watch a woman for her mannerisms/personality/style and carbon copy it. (I unfortunately have experienced the latter and it was honest to god creepy to be around them lmao.)
No. 2545766
>>2544195>At what age did you first hear about troonism?I was pretty young, like 8 or 9 years old? My parents have always been very left leaning so they had no issues with me knowing about these stuff.
>What age did you then "buy into it"* (if you did)?It's kinda weird because I had phases of really supporting it and others time not thinking about it or even sometimes making fun of it, but overall I was always in the "if they wanna change genders they should be able to!" camp. I had a moment when I was like 13 when I thought I was agender cuz I wasn't feminine. I also remember watching a documentary about a pregnant TIF when younger and thinking it was really fascinating.
>What age did you peak, and thus how long was your pro-trans/handmaiden period?I think I started supporting it less and less during the "anti SJW" era of the internet, making attack helicopter jokes and whatever, tho I still had the "let people enjoy things" mindset. I really peaked when one of my friends trooned out, I was like 22 when it happened. Seeing a man who was clearly very sexually frustrated just deciding he was a woman one day just made me never look back.
No. 2545802
>>2544195>At what age did you first hear about troonism?I grew up in an Asian country where troonism was considered as gender identity disorder. I would see documentaries on TV about tims with the said disorder. They were all well-adjusted HSTS so I truly believed they were female souls trapped in male bodies. I was about 6-10 at the time.
>What age did you then "buy into it"I moved to an English speaking country in my early teens. During high school, I was definitely a handmaiden but never a hardcore TRA. This was 2018-2020.
All the troons I knew irl were all HSTS. One time, I saw this twitter post about trans lesbians and it bugged me a little, because I never knew troons could be heterosexual. I brushed it off as I thought it’s just a small minority.
>What age did you peakI started my peaking journey after the Lia Thomas drama. The whole trans athlete thing made me start to question TRA narratives. When I was 21, I realised that all troons are fetishists or self-hating gays, which made me peak fully. Also, the post-covid troon contagion helped me to peak as well.
No. 2545816
>>2544195>At what age did you first hear about troonism?I think the first time I've ever heard about troonism was around 10-11, maybe even younger than that, but I cannot recall. Transgenderism here, at least in my own country, do exist but people either stay hush hush about it or they treat troons like outsiders. Their kind are exiled from formal communities, and you can only find them doing very particular jobs to survive.
(Prostitution, street performance, make-up, etc.)
>What age did you then "buy into it"* (if you did)?I think I drank the Kool-Aid throughout high school and uni.
>What age did you peak, and thus how long was your pro-trans/handmaiden period?I think I eventually peaked when I was 24, and mind you, I started browsing this site when I was 18. It was one faithful day when I decided not to be a wuss anymore and read the mtf thread on /snow/, everything I've read on that thread was incredibly eye-opening, to say the least.
Iirc, I wasn't a hardcore pro-trans/handmaiden, but part of me empathizes with them because they are a marginalized group of people that deserve rights. You can see me often retweeting/reblogging pro-trans stuff…As you can tell, I was also a Tumblr fangirl; that place was troon central. I'm glad I woke up from the horror.
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>>2544991I remember this too! I was intrigued for the three seconds I thought she was an actual man. The people I was watching the segment with all collectively groaned when it clicked that she was just a woman who was being stupid about hormones lmao
I hope her kids are okay.
>>2545687Even before The Peakening people used to nitpick her to death over innocuous shit no one cares about when it’s a male author. I used to take a lot of it at face value since I wasn’t into HP at the time, but now that I’ve read all her books it’s so obvious how much they were grasping at straws. Like one criticism was that she stereotypes the Irish as terrorists because Harry’s Irish classmate keeps accidentally blowing shit up, but that’s a movie invention that’s not in the books. They’d also claim that she was too arrogant to hire an editor and so obsessed with the movies that she mistakenly calls Ron ‘Rupert’ (after Ron’s actor) in a later book, but this was clearly intentional because the character who does this has been getting Ron’s name wrong all throughout the book. Anyone who actually read the books would have been able to debunk these criticisms easily but they spread anyway because people simply wanted to hate on her for any reason they could find or, in most cases, make up. I think a lot of people are giddy to finally have a “legitimate” (it isn’t) reason to hate her other than her being a successful woman.
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transandrophobia is such a kekky concept to me
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>>2544195for the record, i'm mid twenties
>At what age did you first hear about troonism?middle school during the leelah alcorn debacle.
>What age did you then "buy into it"* (if you did)?i briefly thought i was a guy in middle school, after learning about leelah and looking more into ~gender~. lasted about a week before i got bored, then it receded into the back of my head and i continued to think of trannies as sad homosexuals or people just trying to "live their truth".
>What age did you peak, and thus how long was your pro-trans/handmaiden period?i peaked around 18 after i entered the wider world and (ironically) met troons irl and within my online hobby spaces; i read a post from a radfem about nonbinaries being like "i'm a person not a woman" and realized that was in fact something they said, knew an nb girl at the time who bragged about not being a woman but instead being herself. also recall a convo with some mtf i befriended over /tttt/ and me venting to him about misogyny irl and him going "tehe well that sounds nice, at least they know you're a girl xD" read up on theory and bam, i peaked hard
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>>2544195>At what age did you first hear about troonism?I knew trannies existed but they were basically jokes until the early 2010s when gender discussion started becoming trendy as a topic and troons being the “oppressed minority” of the moment. I was in my early-mid twenties.
>What age did you then "buy into it"* (if you did)?I wasn’t a card carrying ally or anything but I was polite around troons and would have claimed to support them from like 2010-2015. It was mostly out of politeness and feeling like I was doing the right thing by learning and engaging in discussion. I didn’t go out of my way to defend them.
>What age did you peak, and thus how long was your pro-trans/handmaiden period?The thing that peaked me was the 2016 women’s rallies outrage over pussy hats, and soon the mention of uteruses and periods making TIMs feel excluded, women should stop talking about female sex and health because “some women have penises” and we became “uterus having persons”. I started realizing this was really about males wanting control female spaces and subjugate them from within. When JK posted her initial tweet I thought she was 100% right although I didn’t voice it out loud. So my peak was at age 30 and has continued to become stronger into my thirties.
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>>2538297>>2538312First anon is correct, 'they' as a singular pronoun does not stand in for he/she in all contexts. It is used as a gender-neutral singular pronoun in two contexts: when an individual's gender/identity are both unknown, or when referring to a HYPOTHETICAL person (similar to 'one' in 'one would think'). For example, you would say 'A robber stole my mom's bike today. They were really sneaky about it, too - she only left it locked up on the street for half an hour.' If you had seen the robber you would no longer use 'they' but he or she. In the second type of scenario, you use 'they' as a general hypothetical individual, e.g., 'A person should be able to eat whatever they want.' Again this is a general description of any individual (similar to 'One should always turn the lights off when leaving a room') and that's why the gender is unspecified.
It has never been normal, however, to use 'they' as a singular pronoun for a KNOWN individual, e.g. 'I ran into my former classmate today on the street, and they were looking healthy.' This sounds unnatural to English-speakers and ESL speakers alike, because it just isn't a common/correct use of the word. It becomes especially confusing when there is more than one individual in the mix, e.g. 'Alex was walking to the grocery store with a group of friends. They said they don't like broccoli, but they needed something cheap.' If you are using 'they/them' pronouns for Alex, then this sentence could have at least 4 different meanings. This normally doesn't crop up in the other, correct uses of they as a singular pronoun, because you talk about known individuals differently (usually) than you talk about unknown or hypothetical individuals. This is obvious even to gendies which is why they all start using names in contexts in the conversation you would normally just use a pronoun, to avoid confusing themselves and others. If you spend time around gendies you will notice them using this type of stilted speech often ('Alex was walking to the grocery store with friends. Alex said that Alex doesn't like broccoli, but they wanted something cheap to eat, so Alex got outvoted.' Because otherwise it would sound like 'Alex was walking to the grocery store with friends. They said that they don't like broccoli, but they wanted something cheap to eat, so they got outvoted.') The whole 'it's always been used as a singular pronoun!' cope sounds like it makes sense at first, but this falls apart under careful scrutiny. Sorry for the language sperg but this is such a pet peeve of mine.
No. 2546477
>>2544195>At what age did you first hear about troonism?I was 14 years old when I first heard of it in a movie. About 2 months later, my friend said she's going to troon out. I was shocked and for 1,5 year I struggled with her pronouns, but she got me to get used to it in the end, after 1,5 year of fighting or not speaking to eachother…
>What age did you then "buy into it"?So then for a few years we were cool, I used to draw Tifs, thought they were cool I was kinda nonbinary before nonbinary was a thing, I never wanted to get the chop though, because my boobs are very sensitive and my friend described the surgery in a very graphic way.
I was on tumblr at the time and more and more troons and tifs started coming in and ruining fandoms with their weird sensitivity and so i started to dislike them, but my friend wasn't like this so I thought it's just the american trannies that are weird and annoying kek.
>What age did you peak, and thus how long was your pro-trans/handmaiden period?Had my own stuff to deal with so I didn't care for trannies for some time but then I started hanging out with my tif friend again and she told me that a classmate from our school trooned out and wanted to get her so drunk so he could rape her, she got away though. He was also one of the leaders of my country's trans activist group - not the only rapist there may I add…. so that confirmed my suspicitions about troons and a button my in head switched. Regading Tifs, she told me she feels like a cripple because doctors promised her something that can't be done and the bottom surgery will never be worth to do and so she'll always be stuck inbetween sexes. I felt really sorry for her and so on that day I saw the predatory troons for what they are and the demonic system that makes girls transition.
So it took me from like 16 to 22 I think. My friend is still a tif but there's nothing that can be done, she doesn't want to change back. She looks terrible and has various health problems. She's close to 15 years on hormones now, it's really scary what it does to your body when you start as a teen.
These days I see kids starting very soon with transition, 11 years old on hormone blockers, I saw a post of a mother where she said her 13 yearold is starting testrosterone. It's a very scary facebook group of trans moms.
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>>2544195>At what age did you first hear about troonism?I think I was 7 or 8 but didn’t really give a shit. My introduction to that was my dad’s genderfluid co-worker who put on that typical annoying faggot drag queen voice and it was at a Halloween party at his office. My parents explained it to me like “sometimes he’s a woman sometimes he’s a man and sometimes he’s neither” and my only reaction was confusion but either way I gave zero fucks.
>What age did you then "buy into it"* (if you did)?When I was at my most chronically online at 11 years old. I started reading anecdotes or troon propaganda from Wattpad and Tumblr, and then I became a truscum after a lot of reading. I think I started shedding my truscum beliefs around 13 or 14 and then I was fully bought in because all my friends were blind tranny bootlickers.
>What age did you peak, and thus how long was your pro-trans/handmaiden period?Funnily enough I started becoming GC at 16-17, so I’d say about six years. Seeing people trannify everything on sight was making me seethe, and my friend’s resulting misogyny from being in too deep in the gendie hivemind made me snap. Sadly I only have one friend who has radfem-adjacent beliefs but she’s still UMP and TRA despite seeing the bullshit men pull with gender ideology. Sometimes I think being enlightened is a curse because I’d make manhating comments and suddenly my friend group becomes MRA except for the radfem-adjacent friend. I think I’d be happier alone, or I’ll just optimistically pray that the tranny fad dies out and everyone snaps out of their retardation
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>>2544195>At what age did you first hear about troonism?I'm an oldfag, so I learned of troons in the oldschool "some people are born in the wrong body" way. It was something exceedingly rare and I never met such a person ever when I was young.
>What age did you then "buy into it"* (if you did)?I started noticing the trend and immediately questioned it in around 2009 or so, when suddenly there was a mass exodus from Livejournal to tumblr. Suddenly, several of the people I used to read on LJ identified as trans. If it had been one or two I probably wouldn't have thought anything of it, but it was just so many, and as I clicked myself through tumblr, I immediately got the impression that something wasn't right. Suddenly troonism was everywhere, it became the most important issue basically over night.
>What age did you peak, and thus how long was your pro-trans/handmaiden period?So while I was never truly pro-trans, I only became anti-trans a few years later. I was still really naive when I had my first personal online experience with a TIM in an online game. I was doing progression raiding in an mmo and we had a person who then turned out to be a TIM join us. He was your typical narcissistic troon, making everything about his identity. When we complained that he was late to our raiding, he said we were mean because he was trans. Same thing when we kicked him. Worst of all was that he wanted to latch onto me, the only woman in the group. He sent me private chats about how he could tell we were so alike, that we both had a "dark" side and how he was erp-ing on Second Life and wanted me to join. Being the doormat that I am (and at that point still not actively anti-troonism) I didn't say anything, but I blocked him the instant we kicked him from the guild for causing nothing but drama.
Lond story short, I was skeptical from the beginning, but only became actively against troonism when that shit started influencing RL politics a few years later.
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>>2546525I will never understand women who can spend any significant amount of time around AGPs, especially in real life, and not peak. Most handmaidens I know are noticeably uncomfortable around AGPs and avoid them as much as possible, only voluntarily hanging out with TIFs and the occasional HSTS who they treat like a sassy gay friend. They might pay lip service to “trans lesbians” but only from a safe distance. If your friend’s mom is a good person she must be dealing with insane cognitive dissonance.
The handful of handmaidens I know who do willingly attach themselves to grotty AGPs almost seem to enjoy the notoriety and remind me of those women who adopt a pitbull with known behavioural problems from the shelter and act holier than thou about it. There was one awful enbie woman in one of my hobby groups who often invited the nastiest AGPs you can imagine to come along and appeared to relish in the way everyone else squirmed in discomfort when they inevitably started talking about their fetishes. One was a furry with incontinence problems (aka a diaper fetish), another supposedly had DID where every alter was some hentai trope and the “loli” did most of the fronting. First time I’d ever heard anyone say “uguu~” out loud. You might think this woman wanted to peak the rest of us but no, she was the kind of rabid TRA who tried to ruin the lives of anyone she deemed to be transphobic. Maybe she was trying to sniff out more targets, the little freak.
>>2546550It would be extremely easy to argue against if they stuck to their position, but they move the goalposts whenever it suits them. They’re like small children who change the rules of the game midway through to always let themselves win.
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>>2546550Yes and it makes me even mad that people entertain it.
>sex doesn’t exist and isn’t binary>a male can transform into a female>transandrophobia>transmisogyny >male socialization doesn’t exist>HRT literally changes your brain into a female brain>a closeted transwoman literally has the same brain of a woman>testosterone makes your clit transform into a penis>children know what they are! >sexual orientation isn’t related to genitaliaMakes me rage like a retard, that’s why I distanced myself from it all kek. It’s just a waste of time for me. I check in on here from time to time. I can’t wait for total tranny death nonnas.
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>>2546587I think those women have kind of convinced themselves those AGPs transbians are just gay men anyway. They can't really comprehend that a straight man would troon out, because according to their woke political beliefs straight men are all masculine beefy men who like cars and soccer and wouldn't be caught dead in a dress. So if a straight man breaks the sex stereotype he can't
really be straight! And he isn't, they know his as "gay", "not straight", "queer" which is more comfortable foe them to think about than him being straight and into women.
And if they're straight women themselves they see it as "phew, I'm not his potential target since I'm a straight woman so therefor he's not a threat to me, only to lesbians". I really wonder how many awkward autist men have detrooned (or killed themselves lol) because they hit on a woke woman only for her to go "aww sorry but I'm straight! I don't date WOMEN like you, so sorry but I only date MEN!" and his ass is seething because he knows he IS a man and his illusion that dating would be easier as a troon was false and he actually instead got turned down by someone he could have dated if he didn't troon out.
No. 2546772
>>2546674ayrt man thats disappointing, how did shit get so bad so fast?
>>2546670cause they know deep down they arent women but still make everybody go along with the delusion regardless. also they would never give up their precious dicks, their brain is stored there after all
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Kek which one of you nonnas did this? We need to start posting these stickers more. Trooncouver could use it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/NiceVancouver/comments/1l15bc0/my_car_was_vandalized_with_an_antitrans_sticker/ No. 2546862
>>2546694> I think those women have kind of convinced themselves those AGPs transbians are just gay men anyway. They can't really comprehend that a straight man would troon out, because according to their woke political beliefs straight men are all masculine beefy men who like cars and soccer and wouldn't be caught dead in a dress.I've noticed there's a subset of liberal woman who is extremely regressive in this way. She goes around to every "soft" moid (who is just as pornsick heterosexual but not frat jock) and insist he has gay/bi/trans "energy".
I think it's a form of self centeredness. Like if the guy isn't outright acting like a thirsty creep he isn't straight because she's a woman therefore he should be acting like a thirsty creep, be cause straight men act like thirsty creep to women.
No. 2546963
>>2546477I was already peaked when it happened so it didn't cause me to peak but a lot of girls I knew as a teenager/in my early 20s became TIFs (the medicalized kind) and it's so disturbing how sick they all are and how bad they look for their age. They all ruined their lives and started acting way more mentally unhealthy after transition too, engaging in tons of risky behaviors and posting openly deranged/suicidal things all over social media. All of these girls were sort of 'troubled' or a little bit weird before they went on hormones and got the titchop but now they're all total basket cases, pretty much 100% of them became obese, started balding in their 20s, developed 5+ debilitating chronic illnesses/are in and out of the hospital, substance abuse problems, engage in polyshit or post about their kinks. I know people talk a lot about ROGD in youth and how bad it is for teenagers to transition but at least a lot of the young girls who transition as teens seem to still be in somewhat normal health (and/or they detrans around college age) so in a way the child transitioners don't make it so obvious how bad the hormones and surgeries are physically, but it becomes way more obvious when you look at late-20s/early-30s women who trooned out in their early 20s. It's like a way to speedrun geriatric health problems in young adulthood, it's so sad. One of the TIFs I know is raising a child with another medicalized TIF and the child seems to have a really fucked up childhood too, like they started calling the kid gay and genderqueer at like age 5 and post about 'unschooling.' Another thing that gets talked about less often is the effect TIF parents have on their children since everyone (for obvious reasons) focuses on TIMs being terrible/absent/pedophile parents but TIF moms seem to be obsessed with trooning out their kids and using them for validation.
>>2546550Kek yeah I've been thinking about it for decades at this point because I was always the hyper-logical person who was arguing with them (or even just innocently asking questions) and always spent 100% of my time talking to troons frustrated out of my mind that they never had a simple or rational answer to any question, even about the things they kept telling other people were obvious. Even at my peak troon support phase I kept getting accused of being a
TERF/bigot because I was trying to 'listen to trans people' and ask them questions and they never made any sense kek, like you know how some
TERF nonnas are like 'try to play dumb/act innocent and ask them innocent-sounding gotcha questions'? I was like that but actually asking innocently/wanting to believe them, and they still called me bigoted. I can totally understand why a lot of normies just give up and assume TRA nonsense makes sense after trying to actually 'educate' themselves one too many times and getting too confused by all the lies.
No. 2546982
>>2546587AYRT and I don't understand it either especially since she is such a turbonormie suburban middle aged mom. I think she's just that specific type of middle aged liberal who has never spoken to a conservative but knows they're all Very Evil and who also isn't genuinely politically engaged/informed enough to know much about actual leftism either, so they just exist in this weird placid bubble of 'I'm the nicest person ever, I am really accepting of everyone (except anyone to the right of center-left) and I don't have any prejudices at all.' She's the kind of woman who never had a misandrist bone in her body and had a really happy marriage with her very nice and doting husband so I think she isn't suspicious of/creeped out by men the way a lot of women are, which makes the obvious creepy maleness of the hons she hangs out with not bother her. She's also the type of boomer/genX liberal who pretty much just chants slogans instead of reading about politics and is in an echo chamber on social media so she's constantly having her views about troons positively reinforced and feels good about herself that she is 'helping queer kids' by going out with a gaggle of hons to give them hugs in public. She also started doing the free mom hugs group around the time all her kids moved off to college so I think part of it was not wanting to let go of her role as a mom, although idk how that makes hanging out with AGP moids more tolerable. Some women just don't seem to have finely tuned instincts about male creepiness and seem completely happy with moids crossing their boundaries (and other women's boundaries), I've met quite a few women like this in my life and they seem completely oblivious to male creepiness.
>almost seem to enjoy the notoriety and remind me of those women who adopt a pitbull with known behavioural problems from the shelter and act holier than thou about it. Tbh she does seem like she would be this kind of person, although she only has like 5 cats and a golden retriever, but I think she does have that 'I'm helping the weak!' mentality to a pathological extent. Another thing I suspect is that when she joined the group she thought her son was gay and closeted (we all did, including his sister I was friends with) but he actually seems to be one of the 5 straight theater kids in the world and is seemingly engaged to a woman. So she might have thought that joining this group would help her gay son open up to her except he wasn't gay in the end?
The enby in your hobby groups sounds like a familiar type to me too (I knew a bippie like this) but I don't think the woman I'm talking about is that type, I think she just doesn't get that these moids are creepy. She strikes me as extremely 'innocent' for an older woman. It's just this specific type of older liberal that just thinks holding hands and singing kumbayah will solve every world problem and they seem sincere about it.
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>>2542760WHAT THE FUCK! GET MIFFY AWAY FROM HIM
No. 2546995
>>2546625Yeah there used to be but a lot of the turbo-autists who mass-edit Wiki as their sole hobby are troons or other ideologues. There is actually a lot of inaccurate, politically-motivated shit on Wiki because there are people who make it their life goal to edit everything related to their pet issue to reflect their views, and similar to reddit jannies, like 80% of them seem to be troons.
>>2546670Kek yeah moid empathy for women is typically nonexistent so they can't write actual female characters, even as self-inserts.
>>2546679NTA but arguing with troons themselves usually isn't the issue, it's arguing with normie troon supporters who parrot gender ideology talking points. I personally don't bother interacting with troons at all but I have tried to have good faith discussions with troon-supporters on these issues and they argue the exact same way (albeit less angrily) than troons do.
>>2546694>those women have kind of convinced themselves those AGPs transbians are just gay men anyway. You are probably right anon. Especially with a lot of older women who grew up with media about HSTS moids, I think they just haven't caught on to the existence of AGP and therefore they see all predatory hon behavior through a lens of 'what a sad gay man!'
No. 2547127
>>2547104This was always my exact experience too. Back when troon rhetoric wasn't as common but I knew some enbies and troon supporters (around like the late 2000s-2012) a lot of these arguments were more new but I would get in arguments with TRAs that always went something like
>so how do you know you're not a girl?>you just know, because gender is an intrinsic thing that you feel in your mind, it has nothing to do with your body or how you were raised>wait then why do you want to change your body if you already know deep down you are a boy and it has nothing to do with your body>i was born in the wrong body and I need to align my body with my gender>doesn't that mean your brain gender is wrong too if your body can be wrong? your brain is part of your body… also you just said it has nothing to do with your body>bodies can't be wrong, I was born this way and I'm perfect just the way I am>so if you're perfect just the way you are, why do you want your tits chopped off?>because gender and sex are completely different things, gender is the kind of clothes you wear and men's clothes don't look right on boobs>why are men's clothes cut that way if it has nothing to do with the sex of your body?>gender is an evil patriarchal construct meant to punish people for having diverse personalities, and doesn't exist>wait if it doesn't exist and is a social construct, how can it be an intrinsic identity you were born with?>you're cis so you wouldn't know what it feels like to have an opposite-gender brain>how do you know what it feels like to have an opposite-gender brain if you have never had any other brain?>because I saw the social expectations put on other girls and they didn't match my personality>okay I think we're getting somewhere, are you just saying gendered expectations are harmful social constructs and your body and brain are fine?>wow you're such a bigot and you're being intentionally dense, I can't even talk to someone as stupid as you, I made my points EXTREMELY clear and you're just playing dumb at this point, educate yourself!etc…
I kept believing that it was somehow important to validate these people because I thought the ones I was talking to were just stupid but there must be a 'smart' version of trans ideology if scientists and important thinkers were supporting it too. How wrong I was kek, they're literally all like this.
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Ew, I don't want to be "forgiven" by a frog like you. I feel like I have to cleanse my youtube feed now because idk how this troon shit popped up in it
No. 2547575
>>2544397its kind of weird to say this but i used to be proud to be lgb, like i was so happy that we had everything we need to live normal lives. i could date a girl and hold her hand, and we could get married even. like just basic shit. and now im watching everything unravel because the T and "queer+" people can't fucking stop ruining shit for us. i cannot stand to go to lgbt (espicially lesbian) or anime/lolita conventions/meets anymore, theyre full of the most disgusting "transbian" tims and the most depressing "soft boi" tifs, theyre all copypaste of each other.not to mention if you disagree with one of their talking points you'll get cancelled.
right wingers use their insanity like a weapon against the lgb and women and fucking faggot loser troons keep giving them more ammo. and i dont even blame right wingers, this is EASY pickings for them
No. 2547584
>>2547575I agree with you nonna, I'm not lesbian but I'm bi and used to hang out with a lot of lesbian friends and I just couldn't do it anymore seeing how they all basically decided to cave to troon moids and 'queer' people in order not to be considered bigoted by other people in the 'community.' Like even people who had already kinda peaked, just went back into their shells and kept caping for sexual abuser TIMs and telling me that I needed to be 'nicer' and that I had no empathy. A lot of them were artists and complained that they could only get grants or gallery dates or poetry reading slots if they pandered to queer ideology, and it made them uncomfortable because they just wanted to make art like normal people. But then all of them went and made all their art queer themed anyway (not lesbian themed, but like trans kweer ace etc. themed). Seeing one of my friends actually try to date a TIM she wasn't attracted to and let him sleep over at her house and shit was one of the final straws for me. I feel really sorry for my lesbian (ex) friends but it's also hard to sympathize/support them when they go full steam ahead with troon and degeneracy support and encourage each other all to troon out.
Honestly I've seen more and more right wing/conservative people be positive about/supportive of gay people, like we were actually on the path for conservatives to start to accept gay people as 'normal' and support gay marriage so I hope the LGB community splits from the TQ before it's too late and all the progress is reversed.
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>not letting children transition is literally child abuse. they should be at least put on puberty blockers so their body doesn't go through HORRIBLE IRREVERSIBLE CHANGES which could ruin their life and chances of passing
>btw studies show that male trannies who transitioned in adulthood and have been on HRT for just 1-2 years lose any advantage in sports making them basically the same as female athletes
inchresting..
No. 2547619
>>2547614Lol yes this is one of my favourite self-contradictory TRA talking points. They'll literally say their feet and shoulders shrink, hips rotate, they get shorter, facial structure and fat distribution changes, smell changes, they totally are never clocked by anyone and are 'biological women' when they transition at age 45 but also it's a horrible crime not to put 10yos on blockers and HRT immediately or their lives will be utterly ruined by all the irreversible changes that puberty brings!
I also love that when these arguments fail they just bring in the 'Michael Phelps is a freak of nature, also Usain Bolt has more fast-twitch muscle than everyone else in the world, so actually athletics is about finding the best most athletic freak of nature who is naturally way stronger and better at the sport than all the normal people! Do you want to ban Michael Phelps from swimming?'
Also one of my other favs:
>I totally pass as a woman and I have been peeing in bathrooms and getting naked in female change rooms for years/decades without anyone noticing that I was male! I look more womanly than a woman and no woman has ever clocked me or minded that I peed next to her!>Omg you are literally murdering me by introducing laws/regulations where women can get me kicked out from bathrooms/change rooms if they clock me as male. This is actually genocide, I can't go my whole life not being allowed to pee in public! Peeing is a basic human need! No. 2547643
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I just listened to a history podcast episode on stigmata and it was so jarring how neither of the two hosts nor the guest even brought up the possibility of a social contagion and self-harm element. Despite acknowledging that this phenomenon overwhelmingly (95%) affected women, especially very young women in or just past puberty, and that many of these women were in contact with each other and going by the same playbook, even synchronising the time and presentation of their wounds. Wounds that appeared on the hands, face and feet and therefore could very easily be self-inflicted. Wounds that got them (sometimes international) attention, often brought in money and resulted in their suffering being elevated to a state of holiness. Many of them also starved themselves. Like, hello? Am I crazy?
Even if they don’t want to draw parallels between stigmata and TIF mastectomies (one of the hosts is a TRA who thinks JKR is evil) they could have at least pointed out the similarities with the social contagions of cutting and anorexia among teen girls in the 00’s but they didn’t even do that! Are self harm social contagions among young women going the way of the crossdressing serial killer, i.e. we’re just supposed to not notice these patterns anymore?
This is not normally a podcast that shies away from uncomfortable topics at all so the fact that they blatantly ignored this elephant in the room was such an obvious departure from their usual MO.
I’m considering leaving a review because I do genuinely enjoy this podcast and I want them to know listeners notice this shit. Even the TRA host is okay as long as the producers make him rein in his JKR hatred (one of them is a massive Potterhead apparently kek good for him) and I like the female host a lot.
No. 2547676
>>2547638I don't kek. I am usually open with my views on troons (except at work where I avoid the topic) and let the cards fall where they may.
>>2547643You're not crazy, it sounds like it very likely was a mass psychosis contagion (which almost always affect girls or young women, historically) and many of these contagions involve some form of self-harm or self-martyrdom. I agree that TIF mastectomies are a similar form of psychotic contagion with similar self-harm/aesthetic/martyrdom elements, and yes you're not supposed to notice them particularly when they're happening among a 'protected' or 'vulnerable' or 'minority' group like troons.
>This is not normally a podcast that shies away from uncomfortable topics at all I think a lot of TRAs have gone quiet lately on issues like anorexia and cutting because they subconsciously (or consciously - a lot of radfems and child psychiatrists who are against child transition) notice that there are major similarities between cutting, EDs and ROGD in girls. They may not even realize they're doing it but I think they know on some level that bringing up phenomena like cutting and anorexia might lead to people making connections with child/youth transition especially if they start going into it in detail. 'Would you give liposuction to an anorexic?' is already a common rebuttal GCers use against TRAs.
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>ancient cultures can manage to be so progressive in their understanding of gender, yet so misogynistic at the same time
it's almost as if they were "progressive" cause they were so misogynistic they only viewed women as broodmares while men raped little boys and so any woman that defied those customs obviously wasn't a woman
No. 2547742
>>2547698I hope he's your moid EX friend now, nona. Run away.
>>2547727Kek yeah, just like all the ultra-progressive 'third genders' that were basically just 'gay men are weird and probably shouldn't be doing stuff with other men' or 'gay men are weird so I guess they can be prostitutes raped by other weird men.'
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>>2547727reminded me of this
No. 2547921
>>2546995>NTA but arguing with troons themselves usually isn't the issue, it's arguing with normie troon supporters who parrot gender ideology talking points. They're the same as the troons in that scenario, they're a believer in the religious idea that gender is real. It's again the more neutral onlookers who you can peak and target by interacting with the TRA, even if they don't identify as a troon themselves.
But it reminds me of that teacher making a student think about what he said about JKR. It was something like "given that she's said bad things…" and he made the student stop and pull up the "bad things" JKR said, and made him analyze it to see if he agreed or not. Turns out they weren't bad and he agreed with it, and the student then felt stupid for even assuming and asking it like that. You don't have to tell people what to think or not - you just teach them to think critically for themselves. Instead of going "troons are bad and homophobic!" if you go "I think homosexuals have a right to same-sex attraction and spaces, and that is also in the law. So what do you think about same-sex attracted people?" and take it from there, one question at a time. They're literally in a cult, you have to on some level treat them as if they're a child and be patient and not accusatory. Let them know exploring the topic with you is ok.
No. 2547926
>>2547543Damn if I'm forgiven I really gotta up my
terf game kek
>>2547614There is not a single troon argument they haven't directly contradicted with another argument. Some people say intelligent people troon out but they literally cannot grasp the most basic contradictions which is a clear sign of being a retard so I just don't buy it.
No. 2548098
>>2546550It's so nonsensical that it argues against itself all of the time.
>trans people were born in the wrong body (gender is innate)>gender is a social construct (gender is not innate)
>transgenderism is natural to human anatomy>the very existence of nonbinary
>puberty is irreversible so puberty blockers are needed>there are no physical differences between a TIM on estrogen and a woman
>gender and sex are not the same thing so that's why trans people need HRT and surgeries>gender and sex are the same thing so lesbians should be forced to suck the girldick (but not that TIMs are men because their sex is male, gender trumps sex apparently)
>you need dysphoria to be trans>you don't need dysphoria to be trans
>being trans is not a choice or a social contagion>the very concept of "cracking eggs"I could go on and on forever, but for every single talking point, there is another talking point that directly contradicts it.
No. 2548229
>>2546550Honestly yes. I mean I've been out as GC since 2017 and as the years went on, I caught onto bullshit after bullshit about what the ideology pushes and how to counter it with common sense and observation. It's easy to online but IRL is where I struggle heavily. I got into a debate with my brother who is a TRA and he really doesn't know the GC side of things and how applying common sense from that angle destroys trans ideology. He was a huge Blaire White fan and one day got pissy at me when I kept referring to him with male pronouns. Blah blah "He makes an effort to look like a woman" and blah blah "I should respect that effort at least" which is what prompted a debate. I explained how femininity does not define women, that Blaire "making an effort" doesn't matter as he's still a man, that Blaire uses editing tricks to hide what he really looks like (he said that Blaire "passes"), and that no one forced Blaire to get breast implants. You know the same old spheal that says that "gender" and sex are not the same. But my brother kept rebutting with pretty much the whole "be kind" rhetoric and that I shouldn't generalize all trans-identified people and that I was being bias (when I brought up the sources of TIMs terrorizing women), and I just felt myself getting progressively frustrated and irritated at this to be frank, bullshit. We eventually agreed to disagree but remembering how I felt where my heart was racing and I was losing my temper (though I controlled at best as I could), I can tell that arguing against it IRL for myself is hard if I'm met with bliss-filled opposition.
It's tough because I know how to counter a lot of the arguments but when I'm met with emotional manipulation and it's nonstop, I start to lose my cool.
No. 2548264
>>2548231I had a TIF coworker for a while and her constant aggressiveness and adopted
toxic masculinity were off the charts
No. 2548326
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>Other women using male pseudonyms because book editorials are misogynists af: sleep
>JK Rowling using a male pseudonym because book editorials are misogynist af: SHE IS THE MISOGYNIST!
People sure love split hairs.
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>>2548326The day these people find out more than one person in all of human history can have the same name they’ll explode.
No. 2548430
In the snow MTF thread someone posted screenshots of a Reddit TIM posting about his female circumcision fantasies.
>>2124267 It never occurred to me that this would be anyone’s fetish, much less that a whole sub exists for it. For some reason it bothers me even more that he’s making up some weird scenario to fit his fantasy of being a sexualized BDSM Anne of Green Gables which has no basis in the reality of FGM. Not that I want him to playact as a woman in any of the cultures that do FGM either and trivialize their suffering. But fuck is that nasty.
How can any woman read this and think he is a woman too? That being “a woman” is some BDSM LARP to him and it makes him jizz to pretend he has labia being sewn shut as a punishment for being a woman. How am I supposed to not judge all troons by this man when there are so many like them and none of them ever get called out or excluded?
>>2548229Nona with the “be kind” brother, please show him that post and ask how this misogynist is a woman.
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Mark my words, detransitioning is going to be treated as a new form of alt-right nazism.
Dear detrans sisters, we terfs welcome you when the troon community would toss you out like trash
No. 2548597
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I hope the on-going Twitter debacles about how tifs should use their "male privilege" to "protect" tims peaks as many of them as possible. Especially when the ones demanding that talk like this.
No. 2548643
>>2548420So often when I read about historical or even current-day male figures the fact that they beat their wife, abandoned their kids, sexually exploited their employees or impregnated a 14-year-old is treated like an unimportant piece of trivia incidental to their legacy. Most people won’t know about it and will get annoyed when you bring it up because “well he’s still a great author/film-maker/scientist/activist/what have you, stop trying to distract people from his work!”
Meanwhile people are going over this woman’s life with a fine-toothed comb and the worst thing they can come up with is that she used a male alias for her adult novels? I’d call her a saint but even most saints were shittier people than she is.
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My fave TRA self-own thing is when they tell Rowling "you wrote books about magic how can you not even imagine people born in the wrong body".
>>2548408>both workers burst out laughing and started making fun of his anime girl shirtAs they should. Good stuff.
>>2548594She used a completely different name to see if she could get her first detective novel published on it's own merits, not because she was already famous. And it did!
>>2548643Right. It's so sad. A current example is Neil Gaiman who turned out to be a sadistic rapist, and he isn't getting 0,1% of the hate Rowling is getting.
No. 2548698
>>2548560I'm detrans and will try not to blog but this shit makes me crazy. It's because they don't actually have a definition of being transgender that makes any real sense. So I, who took cross sex hormones, had surgery, acted in a very specific way socially so as to "pass" as the opposite sex, was not trans - but a man who feels internally like a woman and jacks off to the idea or a woman with short hair who identifies as nonbinary is? If I changed nothing about how I currently present but identified as nonbinary instead of a woman then I would still be transgender? The unfortunate reality for GNC detrans FTMs specifically (especially when you first detransition) is that many people do still see you as a man, literally you have the exact social experience as a TIF. If being perceived as a gender other than the one you were "assigned at birth" isn't being transgender, what is? I guess you stop being trans when you stop delusionally thinking you are the opposite sex, lol
You'd think they'd realise that by doing this they are creating more terfs kek. I was fully ready to continue being supportive of trans people (I do still care very deeply about trans "men") but the way people both online and irl reacted to it made it literally impossible. If you talk about transition in anyway that isn't positive people will get visibly uncomfortable and start challenging you about it. Even if you stress that you are only talking about your own personal experience. The only people who are actually sympathetic to what, in my mind, is a very distressing thing to experience, are normies and terfs, lol.
I'm speaking to a woman who is setting up a NHS pathway for detransitioners. I have seen trans orgs and people say that this is transphobic and that detransition should just be handled at the GiCs and that setting it up is diverting funding and resources away from trans healthcare. There is literally no specific support for detransitioned people and they are met with hostility from their former community, and then said community gets all shocked pikachu face when detransitioners are "transphobic" kek. It's so obvious that they see detransitioners as a threat to the whole worldview/ideology and so must discredit and shun them. You'd think handmaidens would recognise this, but I guess they just buy into the detransitioners are all brainwashed by terfs myth. There's that small percentage of "retransitioners" who say that transition really did work in changing their biological sex so now they have to transition back, but I've seen troons get mad about that because it's appropriating trans women's lived experience or whatever. You literally cannot win as a detrans person.
I don't even identify as a detrans person really, I say I was a woman the whole time; a delusional woman who thought she was a man but still a woman, and that transition didn't work, that I was always a woman because being a woman is part of who I am. When people people try and challenge that by saying that I just say it was my own personal experience of transition, and that I have tried but cannot change how I feel about it. This seems to be what the OP of this post wants, which is kind of hilarious, because I think that's actually a very good argument against transition and highlights that you actually cannot change biological sex or overcome gendered socialisation in childhood in any real way.
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No. 2548746
>>2546084Why are they comparing women and "transmen"'s achievements? Shouldn't they compare how transmen and men's achievements are celebrated? How transphobic
>>2547167Kekk cannot imagine saying this shit aloud
>>2548326If using a male pseudonym is misogynistic, surely being a TIF is the most misogynistic thing ever since you literally take a male name legally and pretend to be one? What's the logic here?
No. 2548751
>>2548647Fantasy and sci-fi are my favourite genres of fiction by far but TRAs always manage to be so cringe about it that it makes me want to slap the media out of their hands and make them read only nonfiction for a year. The arguments they come up with, jfc
>but magicisn’t real
>but souls/reincarnation/personality transfersaren’t real
>but what if someone’s body was magically or medically altered to be indistinguishable from the opposite seximpossible
>but what ifGO OUTSIDE
Just a little while ago a group of acquaintances of mine were discussing Dragon Age lore and how transgenderism would work in a world where people started life as amorphous spirits and could create their physical bodies themselves. Would more people be nonbinary? Would ‘binary’ trans people exist at all? That was a very contentious one. What about genderfluid people? Would they be able to alter their bodies? Would they want to? Would this society even have a concept of gender? Etc. They were taking this very seriously, and I just sat there wondering how we got to the point where this extremely silly fantastical thought exercise was now affecting real lives and policy. It reminded me of the Council of Nicaea and how these priests were getting into physical fights about the hierarchy of the Holy Trinity and the exact degree of the divinity of Christ. Santa Claus himself is said to have decked another guy in the face over it. Holy shit, you nerds, go outside and go find a real problem to solve if you’re that bored!
>>2548655They really want to accuse her of pandering to the LGBT for clout when 1) Dumbledore’s gayness was there from the beginning, she was just very subtle about it (note how until DH Harry doesn’t know anything about the sexual orientations of
any of his teachers except Hagrid’s crush on Mme Maxime) and 2) she didn’t bring it up out of the blue, she was simply answering the question of a fan who asked if Dumbles had ever been married. It was the media who blew it up into a massive thing, not her.
>>2548698You’re trans if you agree with them and cis if you disagree. That’s what it really boils down to, in true cult fashion.
>When people people try and challenge thatYou mean TRAs try to challenge you when you say you were a woman the whole time? What’s their argument there?
No. 2548762
>>2548490Women being forced to prostitute themselves or to pretend they're male to make an income (at the time) was misogynistic, yes.
>>2548643So true, great point and kinda blackpilling. People don't actually give a fuck about males being literal pedos or rapists. They only pretend to care about morality to cancel those they disagree with and women are held to a much higher standard.
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>>2548597nta but your picrel reminded of me of this borderline braindead post i saw a couple days ago. gendies are such misogynists i don't even know where to begin.
>implying that women are faking the danger they face for being women>implying that tifs (women) have any form of social clout at all >implying that tifs have virtually indistinguishable privileges from men>telling women to stop "playing oppressed">telling women to use their 'privilege' to protect the poor widdle trans women (men)how tifs see these posts and not immediately peak is beyond me.
also, how exactly should tifs protect troons? the vast majority of tifs are about five foot two at most and have never gone to the gym in their lives. No. 2549116
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You want to know what I'm getting tired of? People making commentary on this fucker (picrel, "Lily Tino") and acting like they're being edgy calling him out. I know that normies are stupid when it comes to trans ideology and don't see it for the lie that it is but it is especially annoying when they go for low hanging fruit like this turd or Dylan Mulvaney when it's so clear that they're making ragebait on purpose while coasting by society's current retardation validating mental illness ("gender dysphoria"). I've been seeing videos popping up about this TIM recently and it's getting so annoying.
No. 2549167
>>2544195>What age did you then "buy into it"* (if you did)?as a lesbian on tumblr I had heard about troon stuff around 2014, didnt really think about it much because it had nothing to do with me. didnt think critically about it just adopted a "live and let live" mindset about it. as i got older, i had aiden friends and i respected pronouns and tried to be nice. had a coworker who went from a lesbian to an aiden when i was in my mid 20s and it never sat right with me though
>What age did you peak, and thus how long was your pro-trans/handmaiden period?mid 20s was when i peaked, around 2018. actually happened because of the mtf thread on here. i always felt mildly uncomfortable with trans stuff especially in fandom spaces but i just tried to ignore it. was on lc for internet weeb drama and poked my head into the mtf thread out of curiosity. saw so many people talking about how moids troon out when their wives get pregnant, and i immediately thought of my aiden friend and her weird husband who did just that. lifted the veil, even if i wasnt fully entrenched in the gendie stuff to begin with. so thank you nonas, dont know where id be if i had kept going down that pipeline.
No. 2549497
>>2549448The peaking:
>be me in 2015>try to be accepting of pronouns >assume troons are the repressed T letter of LGBT and i should be an ally>assign the sympathy i had toward repressed gays toward troons >kept meeting troons, always the same narcissistic attention seeking twats>guilt myself into thinking “theyre just the bad apples” >watch many lesbians and sapphics start transitioning>start seeing label take over people’s entire identity, they are always unhappy>noticing contractions like if gender identity is innate but also a social construct and also the determinant in expression then the only genders which can be represented are relative to masculinity and femininity as defined by society aka TURBO sexism, its not liberation, its indoctrination>watch people’s media literacy lower >troons meltdown over Hogwarts Legacy>start noticing how troon twitter brand questioning people terfs, bigots, nazi>”what if im the baddie” >look into what terf actually is >spend 3 weeks consuming Helen Joyce, Kathleen Stock, Gender A Wider Lens podcast, reading what JKR actually had to say >realize that i was handmaiden Final straw:
>am a notable fanartist and made 1 clarifying a fictional lesbian couple i drew being both female pissed off retards on twitter. Woke up to death/rape threats. >accept that theres no making peace with the T of LGBT (namefagging) No. 2549576
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god why is the intersex addition the flag being used now?
No. 2549582
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it be feeling like this
>>2549576wokies know theyre losing support so theyre co-opting other minorities even though most intersex people do NOT want any part with trans rhetoric
(newfag) No. 2549589
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mtf or not?
No. 2549652
>>2549086Further proof that deep down trannies are considered faggots because being a makeup artist/hairdresser or just into fashion is usually the sassy gay male character stereotype. People are either disconnected from reality or purposefully misrepresenting the true nature of AGPs.
>>2549116Agreed. They know it's an easy way to get clicks because criticizing trannies is a big no-no, but then they do it while affirming trannies' delusions which makes zero sense.
>>2549149Damn, very true nonna
No. 2549723
>>2549582Nice pic
nonnie, but please post anonymously if you don't wanna be banned
No. 2549729
>>2549116>smooth brainThinking he's a hero for standing up to bigots
>normie brainThinking he's a rage baiter that goes out of his way to be offended
>Enlighted GC brainKnowing there's no difference between and him and every other entitled moid in a dress
No. 2549744
>>2549036That's great, but by rizzing, do you mean hitting on them or simply supporting fellow terves?
>>2549733I've been told that "intersex" is considered offensive and that DSD ( Disorders of sex development/Differences of sex development) is the correct term. People with DSD still belong to one sex, they aren't something inbetween.
No. 2549761
>>2549732What gets me is that I’ve never seen TIMs like this or the IT’S MA’AM guy or any other troon freaking out at service workers being called a Karen, even though actual women being caught on camera behaving that way would absolutely go viral as “restaurant Karen”, “GameStop Karen” etc. They know! Everyone knows! Some gc
nonny who’s less dumb at video editing than I am should make an “ultimate Karen compilation” video featuring 100% troons just to see what the comments look like. A social experiment, if you will.
>>2549744I think rizzing is zoomer for paying someone a compliment but what do I know, I’m old
And yeah, people with actual DSDs tend to use the term DSD or more commonly the diagnostic term for their specific condition. I’ve never seen a self-proclaimed “intersex activist” who wasn’t just a guy with a hermaphrodite fetish.
No. 2549778
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troon think he's on the team
No. 2549789
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>>2549782Remove the overgrown hair/wig and he looks like your average frat boy kek. Excuse my subpar drawing skills.
Saying that masculine women look like scrotes is insulting kek, you can tell a woman from a man in 9,5/10 of cases.
No. 2549799
>>2549761>Some gc nonny who’s less dumb at video editing than I am should make an “ultimate Karen compilation” video featuring 100% troons just to see what the comments look like. A social experiment, if you will.Oh i would so love to see this kek. I would do it myself but I just don't have the time at the moment to do it but maybe someone else may answer this prayer lol. But whoever does, definitely consider
>>2549770 with including moid freakouts as well just to not give those troons the "euphoria" because that will just weaken the point…
No. 2549827
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>>2549778tims especially agp transbians, have been claiming to be 'misandrists' for a while now, usually wanna be revolutionaries as well
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can anynona help me find the origins of this image. i'm arguing with autistic faceblind moids and they're convinced it's just an ugly woman so i need concrete proof. apparently his huge head with greasy wispy bangs and gigantic hands holding a reddit-tier pornsick joke sign isn't enough
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>>2549969i tried both tineye and yandex now and got no result. it's not even about proving them wrong anymore (it's glaringly obvious for anyone who has eyes), I NEED to find the tranny lost media or i'll fucking explode.
No. 2550058
>>2550018it was sent in the gc
my best guess is it was originally posted either on reddit and got deleted or on one of these fediverse trannypedo rings where you have to register and pass verification to gain access
No. 2550070
>>2549789Kek, I love your drawing,
nonnie. And agree, masculine women =/= men. Some anons here really need glasses
No. 2550138
>>2549941I mean the hairline alone screams male pattern baldness brushing his hair forward. It's also greasy AF and that isn't to say women can't have that but it's far less likely. And the hideous fashion sense that doesn't fit it flatter. Again, all things women don't have to do well but on the whole, kind of do decently enough day to day. Brow bone seems masculine as well and the nose bit.
Ugly women exist but even then I've never mistaken them for men at a glance. Just ugly.
No. 2550192
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Is it just me or is the file for this report fucked up? I’m trying to see the actual words of the report because I don’t believe what gendies are saying about it (especially since the Cass Report has revealed that so many “gender studies” are super short and with small groups of people with incredibly cherry-picked results).
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https://www.wussymag.com/all/body-feminizing-workouts-for-trans-women-and-femmes-part-2Saw this retarded thing, but it got me thinking how funny it could be to grab some roidpig's routine and market it to troons as feminization exercises. "Women bodybuilders take anavar, so consider finding some!"