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This thread is to discuss your grievances with gender ideology.
>What is gender ideology? Foundational to transgenderism, gender ideology is the belief that one’s “internal gender” can contradict one’s biological sex.
Gender ideology operates much like a religious cult. There is no scientific evidence that supports the notion that we have an “internal gender,” and yet doctors now medicalize and sterilize children with “transgender identities” who have been groomed by the cult. Anyone who does not reaffirm these delusions is labelled as a “transphobe” in order to discredit any dissenting voices of the cult.
Previous threads:
>>>/ot/2252408>>>/ot/2191693>>>/ot/2121106>>>/ot/2097274>>>/ot/2037097>>>/ot/1991983>>>/ot/1941872>>>/ot/1894283Relevant /snow/ threads:
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>>>/snow/2058104(FTM general) No. 2290976
>>2290944Then what are you doing in
gender ideology hate thread, retard? Go back to reddit
No. 2290997
>>2290975Yeah it's great to have a site where you can feel real with other women.
>>2290996delete this it's baiting lmfao
No. 2291002
>>2290994I said I used to be fat, not that I am now. And that I was gnc aka didn't wear or act like other girls my age when I was a child, not that I was ugly.
>>2291001What? You must be replying to the wrong post since I never said any of this.
No. 2291005
>>2290988What possesses you to think that we don't want women in male-dominated professions? Or try to larp as men with misogynistic slurs? Where did you get this strawman?
>>2291002I did, reposting.
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>>2290988Yeah yeah take your spergout back to /2x/. GNC women are the opposite of TIFs kek
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What are some women in history that get trooned out? i am so tired of female history being erased
No. 2291365
>>2291294Hm I suppose it depends on what angle you want to go with, but IMO my go to is pointing out how we don't treat other mental health issues like body dysmorphia or trans-racials with affirmations. You might affirm a person with dementia because there's not much else you can do and you don't want to scare or provoke them, but nobody actually believes whatever false flag their brain came up with. Doctors don't sign off on people who want to become quad amputees just for the lulz, and if they did most people would rightly see that as corrupt or motivated by greed/lack of care in some way. And a reminder that although many doctors approve gender affirming care, malpractice like lobotomies have been a thing in the past, or dealing out drugs they shouldn't have been, etc. Doctors are humans like anybody else which means they can be just as dumb or crooked or selfserving if they are so inclined.
Even the most passing TIM has only suffered the secondary impacts of femininity being associated with women, wrt society viewing effeminate men as lesser-than because of their proximity to what they see as womanliness (nevermind the fact that women are not inherently feminine). They still never face the same social conditions living as a female has, regardless of how well they pass, because they were not percieved by others from the get-go in such a way. They were not raised in the world in a female body, and can't live as one in adulthood regardless of how much hrt they take or surgeries they have done. Their experiences are fundamentally different, and it's vice versa for TIFs.
Explaining this in a way that emphasizes it isn't out of malice and it's still possible to feel compassion for people struggling with gender dysphoria, but that supporting the idea of trutrans ultimately stagnates actual progress.
No. 2291739
>>2291294I was a handmaiden, thinking back to things that made me fully peak (while my friend who peaked me is still a trutrans believer)
>watching trutrans youtubers, like blair white and buck angel making fun of gender trenders (my friend never made it past this)>learning about trans surgeries in detail, that a neovagina smells of poop and is literally just an inverted penis>the mtf thread on lolcow>seeing rational people like Helen Joyce talk about how it harms women>seeing gay people talk about how it's homophobic>seeing what former trans people aka detransitioners have to say about it>after learning about AGP, seeing "trutrans" people and handmaidens defend it as if they're equally trans>learning the harms of puberty blockers, and that they're lying about it (so what else are they lying about?)>reading what JKR said and realizing she was nothing but polite and I agreed 100%>having my friend point out AGPs (despite her thinking trutrans is real) which gave me permission to see that they're men with fetishes and it's ok to say that>listening to "Gender a wider lens podcast">watching a lot of interviews about gender on Benjamin Boyce youtube channel: detrans, gay people, terfs, whistle blowers, AGPs, trans people, people who got cancelled by TRA I think it helped that I'm an autist who got fixated on the fact that nothing TRA say added up and they're always contradicting themselves. A toddler boy cannot be signaling he's actually a girl by playing with pink ponies if "boys can like pink too" is true. And I was firmly on the side of "gender non-conforming kids exist" because I was a tomboy kid.
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I've noticed that when TIFs join Discord servers or online groups, their introductions won't focus on the topic of the group. Instead they will divulge a bunch of information into pronouns, mentioning personal medical information when they don't need to, giving warnings about how to interact them, trying to subtly gender themselves in third person as men, etc. One TIF joined my hobby discord server and wrote a Russian novel about how visually impaired she was so we can't use emojis around her. Another wrote about how she's an autistic gay man who wants to see other male fashion doll collectors like just her. Are all of these people so inwardly focused???
No. 2291793
>>2291757kekkkk as if i didn't hate this game enough already
tbh i think you're nitpicking here, voice actors don't need to understand entirely what their character is going through. but it's annoying to see a tim get a job meant for women.
No. 2291861
>>2291854Trannys doing voice acting is actually insane, their voices are literally their biggest challenge when it comes to passing since estrogen doesn't change your vocal cords like T does and the only way to get a more feminine voice is with high risk vocal cord surgery.
Are we just gonna start getting female characters who sound like corpse husband doing a retarded falsetto because trannies are too ugly to do real acting but want participation trophies anyways?
No. 2292200
>>2292020Post caps because I doubt you just jumped into a thread to say you liked monster energy drinks and someone called you a moid. You sound very autistic and might've accidentally worded things in scrote-ish sexist ways. One time an anon said something pretty logical about a cow choosing
abusive moids for the thrill, but worded it in a very incel way sperging about the "nice guys" she ignored in the process, which definitely warrants scrotefoiling imo.
No. 2292307
>>2292280better question: what TIM would agree to voice a character in the evil
terf game?????
No. 2292309
>>2291834No, I meant other anons. Not that it happens 24/7 or anything, just that I definitely saw people throw around those comments before at just random people here.
>>2292262Non binary "identities" are just retarded and even their fellow troons make fun of they/thems and say they'll change once they get a job or go outside kek
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>Facial "feminization" surgery
>It's a 7k brow lift, an optic illusion you can get by waxing your brows, maybe a nose job in case of really ugly mugs.
I wish I was a surgeon to sell lies, it's so easy to make money off of them it's almost insulting. I also love how the "after" pictures are the exact same but with makeup/long hair and never in the same exact setting so you can see a difference at all.
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>>2292311Do they think that people are that stupid or
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/12/05/gender-critical-student-connie-shaw-radio-leeds-university/>daring to criticize troons being given free makeup money by the student union on ones own private blog can get women fired bleak.
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there's gonna be a troon in squid game
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>>2292436Meanwhile others use the "egg" metaphor way too seriously.
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>>2291188Can gender ideology leave her alone? The damn Tsar knew she was a woman, and nothing in her diaries indicated that she felt any differently about the matter.
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For those who are feeling doomed and think peaking won't happen any time soon; the lawsuits have started! Those child butchers better start running, because legal justice is coming for them.
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>>2290915Show them photos of pooners who got the chop. Nobody wants to look this gross.
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>>2294169hey we all thought it
No. 2294192
>>2294169is anyone else truly horrified at the normalization of showing mutilated female bodies?
it's not even about it looking good or bad, just the fact that it's literally a female-only body part that they mutilate and you're not allowed to say anything negative about it, you even have to celebrate it
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>super trans
Tell me when a mammal, not an homo sapiens, thought that changing its sex will help it with its survival.
I'll wait. No, lionesses with mane do not count since is a hormonal issue.
No. 2294265
>>2294200>I know the clown fish has the ability to change its sexNot even really true, clown fish are born with both sexes and just expresses one at a time. So they never "changed" from one to the other, they always had both. Humans and most other animals simply don't.
>>2294196 is also such a stupid take, sex is so binary that we can literally grab any plant and know what sex it is because of how ancient and binary the system is. They're so mad that nature is against them that they have to lie about it. And if anything nature is super straight, so straight that gays can't reproduce at all (except for maybe some rare freak species or if you count asexual reproduction in lizards) and most species existence revolve around straight mating strategies.
And what the fuck is
>"the vast majority of sex is done for fun"So what? That has nothing to do with troons not being the biological sex they claim to be. Always trying to change the goalpost.
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how do they know the baby is male?
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https://x.com/4ANGELMODER/status/1864788593576640938?t=SjjMCRU5cB7joj_KgM9UTQ&s=19I know this is a troll post to get empathy and asspats like "noo we're a big family!!" but dude lol, you are forgetting that people can and will reply with "Yes" kek
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>The TERFs are mad again
…I’m honestly confused. Am I misunderstanding something here, or are these redditfags seriously that retarded to think that TERFs or radfems are “liberals”?? KEKKK. This subreddit is so fucking stupid. It’s for MLs/Communists who are against “liberals”. These people support Russia/Putin, China, North Korea, etc…but also support trannyism, which doesn’t make any sense to me at all, because I highly doubt trannies would be accepted in any of those places. Can we NOT have a fucking left-wing space that is contaminated by gender ideology. Plus a lot of Marxists/MLs/Communists seem to hate radfems for some reason, a lot are even just straight up misogynistic, yet they LOVE those trannies, which I will always find so damn weird. This type of shit is seriously pushing me away from the left but I definitely don’t want to become a right-winger either. I’m tired.
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started playing an indie game just to find out it was made by a tranny. and not just by any tranny but an especially annoying twitter famous one. scrubbing that shit off my steam library as we speak. good thing it was free
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>>2297255The original post is in a trans subreddit and these are one of the comments under it. Apparently trannies love Russia now kek.
No. 2297363
>>2297330why do you want them to care so bad? it's not like they support it. maybe they're rolling their eyes because they are just tired of you sperging about trannies
most of the time people don't care about things that don't affect their daily life. if you
really want them to listen you should appeal to something they actually care about or might have encountered IRL. someone is a sports fan? talk about how unfair it is to let males compete in women's sports. someone has a teenage child? talk about gnc/gay kids getting groomed into trooning etc etc
No. 2298453
>>2298426lilith, amy, sophie, luna are the
4 in my social scene's bag
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TRAs: Conservatives are so stupid if they think we "brainwash" to kids to discover their gender.
Also TRAs:
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>>2298491Bonus track: Trump couldn't do the "TrAnS GeNoCiDE" during his first run and most of the "trans killing" were against each other. Why these people think he'll do it in his second run: Electric Boogaloo?
I know their answer is for delulu No. 2298966
>>2297330Practically everyone I know is like this. They’re either hardline TRAs who spout that none of this is happening (but if it is it’s a good thing actually) or normies who acknowledge that it would be awful if it were happening but refuse to believe it is because that would be too awful. Circular reasoning all around.
I don’t sperg out about trannies out of nowhere but I do bring it up when it’s relevant, like when I saw a bunch of trans flags in the elementary school a relative’s child attends. I just wanted to warn the parents that activist teachers who trans children behind their parents’ backs have legal protection to do so but everyone looked at me like I was crazy because they don’t believe child transition would be allowed to exist. I pointed out a national celebrity who was famously transitioned as a child as well as the fact that the hospital I used to work at has a paediatric ‘gender identity disorder’ department that boasts about prescribing puberty blockers and hormones and referring young girls for double mastectomies, but they refused to listen. They simply don’t want to believe it. They’re going to keep sticking their heads in the sand until it happens to someone they care about and then they’re going to act surprised and scandalised that nobody warned them about it.
No. 2298993
>>2297363>why do you want them to care so bad?Innocent kids are quite literally being mutilated nona. Women are being raped in female-only spaces and having our rights stripped away. It could happen to you, it could happen to your niece or the 5 year old girl down the road. It
did happen to someone I know. And they can't even go "wow that sounds bad IF it's true". They just go "no way, that would never happen".
>you should appeal to something they actually care about or might have encountered IRL. someone is a sports fan? talk about how unfair it is to let males compete in women's sports.I have. Do they give a shit? No, because to them it "doesn't happen." It's really infuriating living with people who sweep everything under the rug and refuse to talk or believe you no matter what you say. I don't keep sperging about it either like you accuse me of, I just bring it up when it comes up such as like around the olympics, or if someone mentions anything related to it.
>>2298966>I just wanted to warn the parents that activist teachers who trans children behind their parents’ backs have legal protection to do so but everyone looked at me like I was crazy because they don’t believe child transition would be allowed to exist.I still like to think planting the seed is at least something. If their kid starts to say they're trans and they ever start to doubt it, they've at least now heard it before and that could push them to do research. Hopefully one day these people will be saying "I didn't believe it when I first heard about it, but now I see it"
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tifs and tims projecting their degenerate fetishes
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>>2296201NTA
https://www.nature.com/articles/nature.2013.12516They attribute it to boys needing to be breastfed more but they forgot to factor the soul sucking nature of males kek No. 2300099
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Incredible that they truly blame JKR for everything.
No. 2300277
>>2296492>a lot are even just straight up misogynistic, yet they LOVE those tranniesThe two are correlated. They love trannies
because they're misogynistic, because they categorically refuse to take women seriously, because a lot of them have an unconscious solidarity with other porn addicts.
>This type of shit is seriously pushing me away from the left Avoid, ignore. Most online leftists are utterly useless anyways and normie, older socialists of a certain age are generally better on this question (might be very hard to find them if you live in the US). And don't expect anything from leftist men or women when it comes to women's struggle, they've never been good on this question. If you put in the work they might listen when you push back against their bullshit but you can expect a scolding from female socialist wimps. You also risk being banned because while they're happy to claim feminist leanings, they really are allergic to any kind of feminism
in their orgs. There are exceptions but they're pretty rare
>>2300099Damn that's a lot of arrows for very little thought
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"How can I keep people from learning about my criminal history?"
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Hate to break it on you, but people have more problems than caring of a John Doe in a dress's pronouns.
No. 2301763
>>2300811Troons are never happy. If they get to play a tim troon they'll make it about how they should just be a woman and not have to be identified with the trans part because "twaw". If they get to play an actual female character they cry that it's troon erasure to make everything cis and headcanon her as trans. Troons don't actually care about being seen as women, they just want the power and control over people. They care about people
pretending to see them as women.
They're not mad their old name came up, they're mad you didn't play along.
They're not mad they look like men, they're mad you won't pretend they don't.
They're not mad about not being allowed in female only spaces, they're mad women won't let them in when they demand it.
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Not being able to talk about his "many relationships" with young girls who need mentoring is gatekeeping and gives him dysphoria.
No. 2301917
>>2292311They did file down his lower jaw.
>>2293788Yeah, he looks like a man, that is the reason he participates in the game. He needs the money to get feminisation surgeries. And with should he wear false lashes, in a game of life and death? Their hive mind really share only one braincell between all of them.
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How are you supposed to find radfem friends in real life? I’ve known some people who you would never expect to be radfem in a million years who later revealed their true feelings to me in private, but it’s not like any young women actually go around advertising that they’re a radfem in public. All the things that used to be associated with radfems (short hair, etc) are now associated with enbies.
No. 2303138
>>2302338yes
>>2302316It really depends where you live
nonnie, but I think the best way to spot a radfem (or potentially normie/radfem adjacent woman) is to look at how little she conforms to beauty standards. I tend to find women (gender conforming or not) tend to be a bit more accepting and understanding when I talk about radfem topics if they already do things like not wear makeup, don't particularly shave, seem a bit more laid back when it comes to how they dress. There's subtle cues, but you have to learn to pick them.
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MN house of representatives appointed a TIM to their reproductive freedom committee, everyone please clap.
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>>2292156>>2292157most “pro-trans” men are like libfems, naive liberals but any man whose passionate about trans-rights, is usually a pervert and a sex pest
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Trannies on xitter are currently seething over Imogen Heap being GC lmfao
No. 2304153
>>2303934Those ladyboys are prostitutes who know a John when they see one. Dude probably tweeted that with one hand down his trousers.
>>2304148Aw good for her
No. 2304217
>>2304148Imogen Heap I love you forever and everrrr!!!
I wonder if the recent uptick in troons finding her music (Headlock went viral because of a stupid Mouthwashing edit) and shitting up the comments to her music videos contributed at all to her liking that tweet lol, with how terminally online-ness and fandom brainrot are comorbid with genderism.
No. 2304224
>>2304148just needed to add that "white" in there as if that justified the hatred towards a woman with common sense
Also this obsession they have with blaming white people for twansphobia is so retarded because people of all races hate trannies
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Why do FTM keep calling themselves dykes or butch? I thought you were suppose to be a man so why are you calling yourself a DYKE Or BUTCH?. Why do spicy straight women call them self butch they wore a t-shirt? Why do ACTUALS MALES TROONS cal themselves butch dykes? Lesbians who are female and doesnt have troon delusions have gone extinct.
No. 2304293
>>2304231Are you asking from personal experience or thinking of in/famous public figures of some kind?
This pertains to the diaspora/immigrated population in the West, but a popular cope I've seen from all races is "we got colonalized back in the day and the white man brought the knowledge of two sexes with him," which ties in neatly to all those other ahistoric claims that say shit like "sexism and homophobia didn't exist, or was sooo much tamer, in our cultures before the white man came."
It's all cope tied up with the genuine racism they suffered. Troons and TRAs of all races are intellectually lazy, they want One Solution and One Big Bad Guy they can blame so it's an easy thing to seethe at and blame, while at the same time allowing themselves to throw up their hands and go 'the problem is too big! We can't do anything about it!'
Another explanation is misogyny is such an iron-clad presence that they can't really see a world without gendered stereotypes and attacks being intertwined with sex. So to try to opt out of one, they opt out of the other as well. It's really weird because most women recognize that it's a bullshit game and try to play in a way that benefits them one way or another. Troons are doing the same thing, just in a sometimes more demented way.
>>2304280I'm not dead yet nona, don't give up hope.
No. 2304308
>>2304231Any conservative society is already primed to accept gender ideology because gender ideology is tradcon roles for the sexes repackaged. Someone who already thinks a woman MUST be feminine and a man MUST be a macho caricature finds it less dissonant to process that some faggot is actually a woman because he’s effete and sexually interested in men. It’s why the “third genders” are almost universally gay men who “failed at being a man” and are pushed to be a third, secret thing. Lesbians are less readily re-categorised like that but it’s also easier for them to see it as a form of correction. From then the spicy straight AGPs and fujotifs simply latch themselves to that understanding opportunistically to shill their own fetish-motivated pseudoreligious cultlike ideas.
It’s also why I know a bunch of fujotifs in fandom despite being in Latin America. Gender ideology is conservative.
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No. 2304590
>>2304308>Gender ideology is conservative.It's literally just this.
You can't accept that men can become women, and women can become men, unless you see men and women as nothing but walking stereotypes and rigid gender (actually sex) roles. It's the horseshoe effect, woke progressive people are so far gone they circled back to being more conservative than the conservatives.
No. 2304605
>>2304280>Why do spicy straight women call them self butch they wore a t-shirt?Most of them are so entrenched in beauty culture they consider clothing the only indication of femininity/masculinity. They don’t consider a full face of makeup or perfectly styled hair as feminine, they see it as being female.
“Butch” FTMs operate on the logical conclusion of that thinking. They think women are intrinsically hyperfeminine, and thus being GNC makes them not women.
>Why do ACTUALS MALES TROONS cal themselves butch dykes?Mediocre men want to be congratulated for merely existing, in this case for being a gender-confirming heterosexual. Standard moid behavior.
No. 2304609
>>2304404Oh my god, the cringe… Nobody fucking talks like this, but I fear for a future where autistic who copy everything from cartoons and tv will eventually normalize this robotic (no pun intended) "Xer pronouns are xe/xir!" bullshit. Do kids who watch these cartoons even know what they/them means?
>Someone who isn't male or femaleWe're all either male or female. Yes, even intersex people still primarily present as one sex and only have certain attributes of the other. The retardation…
No. 2304613
>>2304280>Why do FTM keep calling themselves dykes or butch?Because they wanna have their cake and eat it too, they want to get the privilege of identifying as trans, but don't wanna let go of the lesbian label because having to identify as a straight man wouldn't sound very woke, kweer and oppressed of them. So they keep moving goalposts and now claim FTM can be lesbians.
Honestly would be pretty based if they used the same logic to tell male trannies they cannot identify as lesbians because it's still a label based on your
sex and
sexuality, but of course lesbian has just become this meaningless umbrella term that all trannies appropriate as they please with zero regard for actual homosexual women.
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>>2304404The 21st century is the most embarrassing time period in all of human history. The elites are planning something, aren't they? What are they planning? It feels so obvious but WHAT IS IT?
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I wonder for how much longer can the tranny mods and their dick worshipping sycophants carry on censoring the GP true feelings about trans shit? Obviously female centered subreddits are too infested with those freaks to ever be for women ever again but in other subs I will randomly see people speak the truth about how retarded it all is and it's like the mods either don't notice or care. I saw people getting fed up with "non binary" actress Emma Darcy (plays Rhaenyra in house of the dragon) because she keeps projecting her identity onto a character she doesn't understand on a fundamental level. She wants to change Rhaenyra even more than she's been changed to be a nonbinary masc sword wielding ruler who doesn't give a fuck about her kids. And some of the people in the sub aren't having it
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Excellent, now ban HRT.
No. 2305236
>>2304679yeah i agree with
>>2304736. i think more corny, hamfisted dialogue around gender shit in media as well as blatantly false statements (neither female or male) will make not terminally online children/teens/etc. cringe away from it or think it's another embarrassing sjw thing. whatever the term for sjw is now
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It’s crazy that TRAs can just say something, without any backup and they’ll all believe it kek. It’s just cultish behavior.
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>>2305259If you associate with Harry Potter you’re a
terf apparently.
No. 2305266
>>2305262are the wokies still cetegorizing JK as a
terf? Do they not know in the game Hogarts Legacy you don´t choose a gender?
No. 2305364
>>2305234Luckily not I can't find it but she said that she follows literally anyone and she seems to just be a centrist. She follows 26k people
>>2305242not really
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>>2290853 ah mb i didnt know, my point still stands though. i've loved imogen's music for years now and i hate seeing people "cancelling" her now
No. 2305437
>>2305347>I don’t know why exactly but it seems like misogyny has gotten incredibly worse in like the last decade or soApparently it's a cyclical anti-feminist pushback that happens every decade or so, for every few years we get to experience a small, but significant feminist boom; we get like another decade of malding and male supremacist backlash. I do agree it seems to be aggravated by the utter degeneracy porn and the internet in general have brought along this time.
>>2305364>not reallyI mean, Nancy Mace is passing a bill to keep bathrooms sex segregated. Trumpies are passing bills to stop giving puberty blockers to minors. What are libtard women like AOC doing for women and kids being groomed by trannies and big pharmas besides asking people their pronouns?
No. 2305438
>>2305190I was just reading about this, this is amazing. The government can't sort anything else out but at least they're saving children from fucking their lives up on a whim.
And there's a good chance that the kids who get trooned out by their attention seeking parents will now manage to escape physically unscathed instead of being mutilated for life by the people that should have protected them. Now that the UK is seemingly more proactive with addressing mental health issues, we might even see more trannies desisting or detransing once they're no longer depressed or terminally shut in.
>>2304736Agreed, this is too goopy to be cool. Plenty of adult women will fantasize about being Sam and making friends with a super cool genderspecial robot who's just like me, I mean her, but kids are way too cynical to unironically enjoy this slop. Sam looks like the personification of social suicide, she has no personality aside from pronouns, if anything this shit is going to peak kids out of being thembies.
It should be in the animation thread, it's almost as boring as that retarded Tom and Jerry bootleg.
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downvoted for being too gender = scary
No. 2305581
>>2305341>It's their way of convincing you their system accommodates you. I can see lonely aspie girls convincing themselves of this system (it does have categories and rules that might be appealing)This. I spent my whole life not fitting in with other girls and women and being told that I’m not doing
it properly, where
it is ‘being a girl’. They could never articulate what I was doing wrong exactly, just that I was doing
it wrong. If someone had come along and told teenage me that this was because I had a male or non-binary brain in a girl’s body I would have eaten it right up. I do click better with other aspie girls and if all the other aspie girls are identifying as non-binary too then well, doesn’t that prove that we really are a different category?
>being pressured into masking their discomfort because they don't want to be aloneThis, too. I long ago learned to defer to others when it comes to social matters that don’t make sense to me. Don’t ask why you have to shake people’s hands, just do it. Don’t ask why it’s rude not to make much eye contact, it just is. Stop asking, it’s annoying and makes you unlikeable. Just believe us and do what we say. I doubt I would ever have truly believed TWAW or TMAM or that penises can be female or whatever, but I (and I guess many other ASD girls) have been primed to shut up and not question things that the majority of people are telling us ‘just are like that’, especially if asking too many questions results in being ejected from the only social group who will have you.
No. 2305830
>>2305445Yeah they DID really do good, in the past -
now they're hurting the very people they claim to help in inexcusable terrible ways. Its important to be able to spot when something that used to be good turned bad and to be able to admit to it and turn back.
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>>2305830nowadays supposed “lesbian” organizations like National Center for Lesbian Rights just focus on defending violent pedophiles like picrel and making sure they get their fetish surgeries paid for by taxpayers
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>>2305544I read this retarded post. What a stupid bitch. Back on the “scary lesbian sub” people rightfully told her to go back to her hugbox subs and stop telling them how to feel and what to say in their space. It’s literally this meme all over again.
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>>2305866Where is that 2.5 million even coming from? Why is a child rapist getting 2.5 million? Why is a child rapist even alive to get that 2.5 million? This world is a goddamn circus.
No. 2305984
>>2304618I think it’s probably because of overall misogyny.
That being said, I really hate how some gay moids use the worst feminine stereotypes ever, and the overall sassy and catty shit. It screams of misogyny and yet they don’t see it and don’t reflect on it. I would even say, they are worse than straight moids in some aspects because the mask is off. They don’t want anything from women and therefore don’t feel the need to play nice.
No. 2306023
>>2305293If they're such persistent liars they likely lied about being on the spectrum nona, especially when literally using that stereotype as leverage to lie. That's just too calculated and manipulative.
>>2305314>If they participated in hobbies normally while happening to be troons I could ignore it but trans is literally all they talk aboutOh my god same, I'm so sick of them turning everything about troonity and nobody is allowed to call it out or they risk being called transphobic and oppressive. I can't think of any other group that is this level of self-obsessed and devoted to their cult.
No. 2306028
>>2305969I really don't think there's any chance of things regressing back
that much,
nonnie. The way things are going, transactivists are actively making it easier for women to get fired for being lesbians considering lesbian=
TERF in a tranny's pov, even if you walk on eggshells around them and don't even mention trans people. Women have already gotten fired for simply stating sex is real, even in medical fields. I think gay men, and by extension trannies, losing their immense privilege over both straight and SSA women will only be a win for us considering they're constantly using that privilege to destroy women's rights and enforce their right to be public degenerates, which makes all homosexuals look bad as a whole.
No. 2306156
>>2305981tax dollars
>>2306031you could just search up the title instead of asking nonas to spoonfeed you but here
https://reduxx.info/child-rapist-awarded-2-5-legal-settlement-over-gender-affirming-care-access/and here’s the NCLR article which hilariously enough completely omits his crimes or his
victim’s statements on the matter
https://www.nclrights.org/about-us/press-release/19164/ No. 2306170
>>2305866Are these people really so fucking evil they unabashedly help make child rapists lives easier, or are libtards such fucking retards they keep "accidentally" picking the only minorities who happen to be child rapists to campaign for? They literally do this every single time. Remember when everyone was campaigning for this TIM to get transferred to a woman's prison and get hormones or whatever and he'd brutally raped and dismembered a little black girls corpse? Or the black man arrested for domestic violence wokies got released, who immediately went on to commit femicide against his
victim hours after becoming free?
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>>2305866This reminds me of when GLAAD stopped all funding for lesbians and focused all on trannies, and how afterellen published an article about "sense8" showing "representation" of a lesbian and tranny kissing, and how autostraddle ("lesbian" publication) released an article about how to have sex with a pre-op tranny (written by a tranny in detail with pornographic language).
No. 2306477
>>2306170For reference, the TIM you mentioned is a Latin Kings gang member called Luis Morales / Synthia China Blast and his
victim was 13-year-old Ebony Nicole Williams. Laverne Cox campaigned on behalf of Morales / Blast by referencing his character on Orange Is The New Black, a TIM incarcerated for credit card fraud, which added to the illusion that TIMs in prison are nonviolent and harmless. But like you said, practically every TIM who TRAs campaign on behalf of has turned out to be a violent sexual predator. Apparently even they can’t find any nonviolent TIMs to campaign for and settle for simply ignoring the fact that their latest project is a serial murderer or child rapist. You’d think that at some point they’d look at themselves and wonder, “Are we the baddies?” but no.
>>2306387Remember when her PR team tried to write off her liking GC posts as a ‘middle aged moment’, just a silly middle aged lady not knowing how Twitter works and liking things by accident?
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I have no words. The dude looks like such a creep.
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>>2290853saw this on ig yesterday. for context, these two are a 'queer' couple (two women) who have a video series where they 'explain' things to their baby like the baby is an adult. normally it's cute stuff like the olympic games or whatever but one of them is a genderspecial and got the titchop, so they made a cutesy video 'explaining' it to the baby and calling her breasts "daddy's lumps." of course, because of the titchop she won't be able to hold her own child for weeks.
i really worry for the children of these sorts of parents.
No. 2306556
>>2306387Insane to me that they're still talking about what's in someone's likes now that likes on twitter aren't even visible publically anymore. They can't really do this policing anymore with current tweets at least since it doesn't show you what someone liked
>>2306553Seems like it's either their cope for the partner trooning out, or they also have an "awakening" from seeing how their bf/gf says they're trans because (insert not fitting into gender roles super rigidly). Maybe they feel like they can't leave so end up doing that instead.
No. 2306579
>>2306555Tgat titchop money shouldve gone to a weight reduction surgery god, she can't even close her legs.
Hope their child grows up as normal as possible, both in the gendie and health way.
No. 2306598
>>2306553Usually the man goes first and makes no secret of the fact that he believes woman = misogynistic/porn tropes, so a sufficiently brainwashed wife may end up questioning whether she is a woman at all. I mean, if
husband Lilith Athena knows
he she is a woman because
he she loves scratchy lingerie and getting cat called and is too much of a ditzy bimbo teehee to work, where does that leave her, who doesn’t identify with any of that? Plus they see their husbands being lovebombed by everyone around them just for identifying as trans and probably want some of that, too. By the time they realise it only really works that way for TIMs and not TIFs it’s too late and the sunk cost is too high.
>>2306579If a woman that size wanted a breast reduction surgery she would have been turned away and told to lose weight first, not least because surgery and anaesthesia are far more dangerous for morbidly obese people. But if she’s genderspecial those risks disappear apparently.
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https://x.com/PunishedAG/status/1867247619837440347Oohh right! Now troons care so much about children with precocious puberty! And you were believing that they were transing children?
God they're such bad liars
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I love when they eat each other.
No. 2306646
>>2306621noticing that TIMs can boss TIFs around and make fun of them while also acting like the
victim. wonder if the troon hierarchy gets annoying to TIFs as well. almost like changing your pronouns to he/him doesn't make men respect you
No. 2306654
>>2306646>wonder if the troon hierarchy gets annoying to TIFs as wellIt is, but every time the few brave tiffies dare speak up about it, male trannies REEEE about how they're just like terves for daring to criticize the holy penis-owners, and go mask off and say stuff like "typical from an AFAB".
To combat being called terfs, tifs made up their own ridiculous version of transmisogyny, "transandrophobia". Which of course prompted TIMs to endlessly mock them for being MRAs and thinking men are oppressed (the irony KEK, you can't make this up), and berated them for being oppressive transmisogynistic AFABs again. Go through the transandrophobia tag on tumblr if you wanna have a big laugh.
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>post online about an obscure album i listened
>months later the musician somehow finds this post and replies to it, ranting about how their music isn’t for bigoted terf losers like me or whatever
>do a deep dive on said musician
>apparently he’s a tranny pedophile who got dropped from his record label for grooming allegations
the jokes write themselves
No. 2306862
>>2306674This is funny because I feel this all the time for my own stuff (not a musician but I do art), yet I don't act retarded and tell people they can't look at it just because they're a troon. Sounds so conceited to try to control who listens to your music, he should be grateful anyone even cares about his shit despite him being a disgusting troon.
>>2306752They always call themselves names like "Alice" or "Lily", it's so gross. I hate the phrase "gender affirming care" too, it's not care at all it's literally just mutilating your body because you're mentally ill and think you can become a woman. Delusion affirming care. If this fugly stunted retard was so sensitive he died just because society didn't enable his delusions enough he wasn't going to survive in the real world anyway.
>>2306787True kek. I think TIFs do this too, they don't fit into the beauty standards so they troon out instead.
No. 2306894
>>2305259Kek Imogen has issued a statement where she denies she is a
terf and basically says that the whole thing is stupid and she doesn’t have time for it, she’s busy with her own life.
TRAs are saying that she’s committing DARVO and the fact that she doesn’t openly prostrate and say that trans rights are absolutely human rights then she’s lying kek. These people are so cultish, they always act like rabid dogs , but somehow only to women. I never see these campaigns against men.
No. 2307003
>>2306752the language and arguments sound so dumb post-peak
>let kids have hormones or else they will commit mass-suicide!!also
>her body she didn't wantnext time you read pro-troon slop, notice how many times TRAs refer to bodies as some possession to easily modify and match an eternal subjective gender soul. as if you are not your body. as if there's a parallel universe where troons have the "correct" body and god made a mistake.
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>>2307346Yeah it happened… once lmao. They will conveniently ignore all the moids who murder troons because they couldn't handle being seen with a man though.
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You wouldn't be thrown under the bus if you didn't post fetish shit or CP while crying about transphobia.
No. 2307419
>>2307325there's some recent comments that are saying she was just as psycho as her
victim (new info from the court case)
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maybe you should get some real problems dude
No. 2307526
>>2298601You're being unnecessarily mean to a child that is getting brainwashed by predatory adults. Trans kids, even male ones, are
victims of grooming.
No. 2307562
>>2307526These retards aren’t groomed. They watch porn and sissify themselves into being degenerates who think they’re women. They fetishize women’s pain too.
The only ones I can have pity on are TIFs in certain instances, but a male committing suicide? Good fucking riddance, there are way too many scrotes anyways.
No. 2307619
>>2307324>>2307325I always heard about this case that the dude wasn't even a troon, he was just an occasional crossdresser that liked to pressure lesbians into sex. Not really much of a difference per se, but a part of me want to separate him from regular troons so tims don't get more ammunition they can use to turn themselves into
victims - even if that creep was right to be murdered.
No. 2307623
>>2307518Learn to read English.
She (the woman) … her
victim (the woman's
victim)
No. 2307653
>>2307409How are they even thrown under the bus in any way? Almost everywhere you go online except sites like these bends over backwards to satisfy them. Twitter still hosts them and their bullshit despite Elon taking over too.
>>2307515This DUDE needs to shut the fuck up kek. I've been called dude or bro by random guys as a woman and I don't throw a tantrum about it.
No. 2307662
>>2306752This guy died from being surrounded by asspatting enablers who convinced him he was a true woman instead of telling him to get therapy for whatever issues he was actually dealing with that made him troon out in the first place.
Moidlets who troon out can suffer from porn addiction but there's usually something more sinister happening alongside it, like that 16 year old who was stabbed in London who was a coke addict. Clearly his accepting and loving parents weren't doing a great job since he was going out to get high in the middle of the night, you have to wonder what else was going on in that household. Same with this one, he was probably going through some unrelated shit, saw enough estrogen memes to think that inverting his dick would save his life, and killed himself because nobody offered actual help.
>>2306555Imagine hating yourself for being bi/lesbian that you get the tit chop and hold your own actual child and pretend it's a cutesy widdle thing that all parents of indeterminate gender get.
I follow a TIF lesbian who's married to a 'queer' woman (gay but her wife's a man and she's self aware enough to know she doesn't like dick) and it's just this. Them and their circle of fellow TIFs and TRAs patting each other on the back for their surgeries, cheering at the testosterone redness and acne, throwing parties for transition days. These women include women who were treated like shit by their own families for being women, girls who escaped forced marriages when they were in school, women who were raped and gaslit by their moids and wanted to change their bodies to get rid of the memories. It's insane. I get TIFs doing this with other TIFs but when actual lesbians are involved it's sickening, what the fuck? These women watch their fellow women destroy their bodies and brainwash themselves into thinking it's a replacement for therapy and they're all happy about it. Nightmare world.
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Trannies are subhuman. What is this shit?
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They complain about their parents yet they give their own parents hell with their decisions. GAC isn't just surgeries and hormones. These teens that want to be trans so bad… Cannot wait until they are 18? If Mom says no to a lip ring, why would she say yes to a procedure that she's most likely going to fork out thousands for? Even porn stars take out loans, get the cosmetic surgery they've always wanted, then pay it off with onlyfans. Is it really that unattainable? At this point, they just want money, or to see that people around them care.
Someone I knew complained about how white trans people get more money than those of color in GoFundMe. And somehow that applies to them. The real reason why nobody donated to their GoFundMe, is because nobody knew them and they already discarded 90% of the people that cared about them over being trans or adopting that Tumblr hivemind personality they got at a young age.
>>2306752Some of these suicides come across as tantrums. GoFundMe is not a magical fairy you can summon once you utter that you want someone to pay for your body modification.
No. 2308230
>>2308221>>2308221Your conclusion is correct but your logic probably only applies to a tiny minority of passing HSTS, men who don't pass would never be expected to adhere to rules for women.
If women were forced to be broodmares there would be no transcel AGP trannies because they'd get their govt assigned bangmaid and no longer need to 'become the gf' as a cope for being undesirable. The married men who troon out probably wouldn't bother either since they'd have so many other options to freely abuse their wives. The remainder of trannies would have a fetish for the situation, but there aren't enough men who want a tranny wife so they'd go prison gay for each other and LARP the life of a woman with no rights.
No. 2308450
>>2307845They treat gender like an accessory because they're boring as fuck. I think it's a good thing that younger people are essentially treating troonism like a handbag, because it's less likely that they're going to take hormones and get surgery, the most they usually get is a haircut and a few new clothes.
Nobody would think these women were men even if they did cut their hair and wear men's clothes. All the 'He's the MAN!!!!' is for virtue signalling only. See the TIF threads for how little women pass even when they've been mainlining T for 34 years. Ellen Page has had face surgery to make her look like a man, she's rich enough to get the best gendie treatments, she's on T, and she looks like an old depressed woman, literally nothing at all like a man. Pronoun pins exist because troons know they don't pass at all.
No. 2308490
>>2308221I thought about this before too. I think it would definitely stop being as trendy as it is now, because as it stands men think being women is life on easy mode and assume if they became us that their life will automatically improve, which they can't say as much if women have no rights anymore or are brought down by men. The irony being that it never really became easier to be a woman even if some of us have rights now. I constantly see incels, male feminists (lol) and in general failmales thinking if they troon out they'll be able to start an OF and get money from other men (could've just done that as a dude) and live a great life without making any effort, since they assume every single woman has model tier looks, no dignity and that all she has to do is show her ass online to live a cushy life modern day when this isn't even accurate at all to the average woman's experience and most of us work normal jobs. All while dealing with misogyny and male threats of violence, harassment, ageism, menstruation, pregnancy…That said, I bet a lot of them would still fetishize the whole wife with no rights thing and being submissive and beaten since they're freaks. And maybe TIFs would want to troon out even more to try to escape being female like they're already doing now.
No. 2308493
>>2308230>The married men who troon out probably wouldn't bother either since they'd have so many other options to freely abuse their wives. The remainder of trannies would have a fetish for the situation, but there aren't enough men who want a tranny wife so they'd go prison gay for each otherMarried men with AGP would do what they have always done; wear their wives’ lingerie in private and cheat on their wives with other (pseudo)bisexual married men. Gay men will probably do the same, only getting married for the social and domestic benefits and fucking other men behind their wives’ backs. A lot of gay men my parents’ age did this before same sex marriage was legalised.
>>2308450I wish this were true, but many transtrenders who treat transgenderism like an accessory treat hormones like an accessory too. I know more young women who casually use testosterone to ‘just masculinise their jaw a bit’ or ‘just lower their voice a bit’ than women who get fillers.
No. 2308506
>>2308213Sex is a biological attribute. Humans are either male or female. Intersex conditions are genetic defects the same way as having 6 fingers is a genetic defect, and the existence of people with 6 fingers does not mean that humans have between 5 and 6 fingers. Gender is the expectations that your society places on you because of your birth sex. They are socially determined. For example, western society dictates that people born of the biological female sex must have long hair, wear makeup and wear dresses. This is called a gender role, and it varies according to time and culture. For instance, in historical eastern societies, having long hair, wearing makeup and wearing dresses was something that both male and female biological sexes were expected to do, and not associated with one particular sex. However, having lotus feet (in the case of ancient China) was socially expected of the female sex, and was thus a gender role. If a male had lotus feet, he would have been gender non-conforming, because he was adopting the gender stereotypes of the opposite sex instead of his own. However, having lotus feet does not change his biology into that of a woman. In this way gender is socially constructed but biological sex is not.
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my gorgeous beautiful stunning twitter mutual started hrt. another one bites the dust.. i'm so tired anons
we're in eastern europe how the fuck did she even get on it??? i was hoping this cancer would stay in the west but clearly it's spreading
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I already said I suspect one of my friends of wanting to troon out. She had to move back to her country two years ago and I haven't seen her irl since then, and healthcare where she lives is shit according to her so I have no idea if she can medically transition, but she keeps making grammatical mistakes in our first language that make it look like she's talking like a guy and it's happening more and more often so now our other friends are also suspecting something. I'm not talking about third person pronouns the way English speakers do, but about adjectives and nouns in first person. The issue is that they're all TRAs except me. So when our other friends and I talked about her this week irl the one who said "maybe she's transitioning" looked like she was already happy for her. The friend I'm talking about would fit the "privileged sheltered fujoshi from a third world country who may be autistic and has too much anxiety to have a normal conversation irl" stereotype to a t, this is so uncanny. If anything like this happens in 2025 I'm mentally preparing myself to not consider any of them my friends anymore depending on their reactions.
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>>2308213>Somebody explain it to me why gender is a social construct and not biologicalPicrel Sources:
>gender knot 3rd edition https://files.catbox.moe/ynnayc.pdf>https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1993-11-21-mn-59217-story.html No. 2309022
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stolen from kf but this is precisely why I'm glad the UK did what they did with puberty blockers and the U.S desperately needs to follow through with the same. how anyone not seeing how this is blantant child abuse is beyond me. no child can "choose their genders" and fucking their endocrine system with cross sex hormones during a critical stage of development isn't going to make them go through the opposite puberty either. I really do feel for these poor kids who get groomed into this
No. 2309309
>>2308722If society became less strict about gender roles do you think there would be more or less trannyism? Right now I feel there is a horseshoe effect for those who are GNC where trads expect theme to be forced into the stereotypes of your sex and troons expect them to troon out. I don't think either is a good solution for those with social discomfort around those stereotypes.
Being a GNC female is punished by both men and by women who fill the expectation more easily, this site is full of women who scream "NLOG" at every little thing. If people were more accepting of being GNC, I wonder if it would be easier to accept "I don't fit the popular idea of how my sex should be, but that doesn't mean I'm the opposite sex" and such people can accept themselves as individuals first without hinging their self-image solely on whether or not they fit stereotypes. It feels to me like people just want to identify with a group. I'm sorry if I sound retarded and idealistic but this matter is genuinely very confusing to me.
No. 2309361
>>2308722>>2308712>>2308506Well put, this is very important because in a public forum if anyone wanted to change the minds of other
intelligent people around them, one must to bring up gender and sex to show how transpeople are a mix of sexist kinksters and self-hating homosexuals that were groomed and turn into groomers.
It's important to poke holes in trans logic this way otherwise nobody is really going to see and know
TERF positions at all, the use of only looks-bashing as a strategy is not enough and pushes others away from seeing the truth.
No. 2309772
>>2309703Yeah that's similar to why they get so mad over the use of "detransitioned" picking up politically because it implies that the person has rejected being trans, but it's almost a bit contradictory because they want everyone to be experimental with transness. Some people are going to see how ridiculous or a lifelong commitment it is and decide it's not for them.
At this point I think most normal people are realizing that trans employees/graduates are personality napalm and it's starting to effect where they can work or behave, hence some really starting to tone it down as they get older.
No. 2309773
>>2309457Honestly I will only say that it will be done on a mainstream level when self-ID gets abolished and a public official statement is made regarding males in female spaces (from healthcare , prisons and even toilets). We are still not done here.
I never cared about trannies when they just used to stay on their lane and I don’t care if a scrote wants to chop his dick off and take estrogen as long as he pays for it with his own money, same with a woman.
No. 2309774
>>2309457Yup, every year I see a tiny bit more resistance to troonism but this year really escalated it a lot more! Puberty blockers are being banned in more and more places, the cass review now exist out in the open, athletes are finally being heard and people publicly boo at troons winning sports, detrans people are being seen and heard in more mainstream places and they've got lawsuits going now, pronouns are silently disappearing from bios. And it's now been around for so long the kids are getting bored of it, it's no longer cool and the would be future trans kids can now clearly see that if they go down that path they'll be just like the rapidly aging green haired, fat, bearded and smelly overly emotional themby down the street. It's just not as appealing when you can see the reality of it.
Even WPATH knows their days are numbered as they've switched the narrative from "it's lifesaving care" to "it's a journey of body goals" kek they know they're fucked
No. 2309841
>>2309115>It’s like anything that’s a big trend in America will soon spread out literally everywhere elseTrue, it fucking sucks.
>>2309377That fits the ones I've seen from my country trooning out. They're usually people who spent way too much time online and absorbed all this american shit as a result. Weird because I also spent a lot of my time online in similar western spaces and more around foreigners than people in my own country, yet I still didn't fall for troonism. It's also ironic because they'll say they hate america and capitalism but simultaneously adopt tons of liberal western shit like troonism (which they got from americans due to being terminally online) and buy shit constantly aka feed into capitalism and consoomer culture to validate their "gender identity", as well as buy tons of other shit they don't need with mommy's money and supporting "sex work" when that's just supporting capitalism and women being commodities for men. Again, all this while saying they hate capitalism and america, and they don't even realize how contradictory this is. Any time you point this out they'll act like they have no choice but to do this or some other bullshit like that when you DO have a choice to not be a massive consoomer ordering shit from shein every week for example if you supposedly hate capitalism so much kek.
No. 2309966
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This YouTuber here just attaches being trans to different shows including children shows. The KOTH episode is my favorite as it's about Peggy finally feeling feminine given the features she was born with through her new drag queen friend. But here comes the troon community making the episode about them. There's no trans person in this episode.
Skimming through their channel, all I can say is, if all of these shows have transphobia, don't watch them. And you should give the creators the same amount of terror like you would to small time artists for drawing a character in a way you wouldn't like. Most of these speculations from his channel are extremely cherry picked.
>This show has transphobia, this show failed to represent us correctly.. BUT ALWAYS SUNNY DID IT RIGHT YOU GUYS! I CAN NEVER TURN MY BACK ON SUCH A GOOD SHOW!!
No. 2310096
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nothing is sacred
No. 2310106
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>>2309966KEK this loser is the reason for this meme
No. 2311024
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I also sleep on my back. I guess I'm a man now. Report me and put me out to the pasture, nonas…
No. 2311302
>>2311024I’m also a man too according to this. They somehow always end up being so sexist in their retarded comparisons
>farting makes me feel like a man>burping and scratching my ass makes me feel manly!This is how they sound like kek
No. 2311537
>>2310096The simpering teehee uwu what if momma said noooo nature of this post is how you know it's part of the fetish. How the fuck does someone read this and not see that this is what he gets off on?
>>2309774>pronouns are silently disappearing from biosYes, I noticed that too. Most of my personal lolcows are gendies, the older ones have quietly sidled back to their real pronouns some time ago and now the younger ones are following suit. There's less TRA shit being posted or talked about, even if it's big news like puberty blockers being banned.
I saw a post about shinigami eyes being actively harmful because it discriminates against intersex and transmasc folqxz and how it doesn't even work because it goes apeshit at random words like 'butterfly' because it has
terf in the middle. Women are slowly fighting back in the most retarded and roundabout way possible. Hooray for progress. IMO it's because a lot of them have either peaked or gotten fed up with TIM histrionics so they're looking for a reason to uninstall it and maybe unfollow a few particularly insufferable moids.
No. 2311672
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In this post, idiot waxes philosophical about people not choosing his scrotal self as he tiptoes around the obvious.
No. 2311821
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It's funny how the TIFs are pressed about still supporting feminism despite trooning out. I've seen this quite a bit online but it's the first time I've seen it in Youtube comments. I hope it continues to spread- TIFs are the biggest handmaidens and being hated and shunned by the women in their family as well as being ridiculed by the men might just make them come to terms with reality. The one who whines about ebil cis women is fucking funny, like no, you don't get gendie care because your self inflicted titty yeet isn't important enough to push some woman's actual life saving double mastectomy back.
Also kek at the fujo who trooned out to be like her yaoi men, if fandom hadn't turned into a moral crusade against women who objectify fictional moids she and all the other fujo TIFs would have stuck to cringe crossplaying instead of trooning out. It's sad, but absolutely hilarious because they have no qualms with saying they want to be IRL Aragorn and IRL Lance and IRL Gojo when they're 4"2 and look like Fanny's pedo OC with a sunburn. That's the trans rep we all need kek.
I'm just happy that there's finally some pushback on their bullshit, online and IRL.
>>2311672So chanting TWAW in front of the filtered mirror selfies didn't manifest a partner. That's so traumatic and sad. Perhaps he should ask his fellow ladies about it on the lesbian subreddits, I'm sure they can give him some girl to girl advice on how to find a partner who's totally not a chaser.
No. 2311963
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>>2311821I have lose the count on how many tifs trooned for Will Graham.
>>2311949What is she going to do about it? Complain to HR? Call for a "Transphobia sucks meeting?". Jeeze, she sounds insufrible even if you make a honest mistake.
Picrel: Can you guess which is the NB/TIM/TIF in the team?
No. 2312046
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i keep forgetting most people haven't seen over 999999 troon online profiles and simply can't notice the patterns i do. they'll see someone who makes breakcore music with loli album covers and has she/her pronouns in bio as a true and honest woman and i'll sound like a schizo for pointing out the obvious. honey that's a MALE.
No. 2312066
>>2311821>transmasculine people get denied healthcare because they are not womenKek no you get denied tranny surgery because you're just a physically healthy WOMAN who wants to get rid of perfectly healthy female body parts to validate her delusions of wanting to make her husbandos come true and skinwalk fictional characters, whereas other women who aren't retarded like you need mastectomies to save them from ACTUAL life-threatening conditions like cancer
Why are TIFs so fucking dumb?
>I trooned out because I wanted to be like my favorite male characters so I became a man like them>I trooned out because I wanted to have a sense of community and I thought that's innate to women so I became a womanWhy are they so obsessed with things they can't biologically have and delude themselves into thinking they can actually have them and gain magical properties they associate with the opposite sex. You can be inspired by people of the opposite sex and try to have the same traits as them without mutilating your body and pretending that your brain doesn't belong in it kek
Do they not know that you can be cool and strong and dress how you want without having a penis, or that you can be empathetic and not selfish and have friends without having a vagina?
>5D chess move>becoming a man so you can show other women that men can be better so hopefully they start holding men to a higher standardThe thing is that everybody knows you're not a real man and if someone is fooled at first, you're only disappointing them when they find out you're female after all kek
No. 2312166
>>2312004They're so obsessed with their magical sex change hentai they even use it in their retarded analogies in normal conversation kek
Also, if that could actually happen I'd just end up dumping the person because I don't want to sleep with someone whose genitals I'm not attracted to OR someone who has mutilated their healthy genitals. But trannies keep trying to gaslight people into thinking that genitals are not a factor at all in sexual attraction.
>>2312046It's the same as recognizing whether something was made by/for male coomers or not kek all male trannies are coomers so it checks out
>>2311963Nta but today I heard a radio ad on a local station about government measures to respect tranny identities (changing their sex in their passport, etc), I'm not even first world, I'm worried that it'll become a punishable offence to misgender them, especially in contexts like the workplace
No. 2312488
>>2311949Yeesh anon that sucks. TIP’s very existence in the workplace makes it a hostile work environment where you have to twist your brain into a pretzel just to do your job. Is this the first time she’s been ‘misgendered’? In my experience most people (including gendies) struggle with single person they/them pronouns so mistakes are common and more forgivable, but it sounds like your coworkers are pretty captured if they reacted like that. And what kind of an asshole would tattle on you? Even by gendie logic that’s a shitty thing to do because it upsets the theythem for no fucking reason.
>>2312088Same.
>omg my fandoms are full of sensitive, soft-spoken gay men who draw wholesome ship art of our cinnamon roll husbandos and write comfy coffee shop AU fanfic UwUthose are women love
>>2312277I mean you need a terminal case of Not Like Other X syndrome and an unhealthy dose of magical thinking to seriously identify as trans in the first place so are you really surprised?
No. 2312671
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>>2312089>>2312108even if you have attractive men in your family you are still going to be ugly if you transition, buck angel was a very hot androgynous butch woman but testosterone turned her into an almost gremlin like thing, when she stands next to real mmoids, she looks so tiny next to them as well
No. 2312677
>>2312671Damn she was beautiful before.
Also isn’t this the TIF who had a severe complication from the continuous usage of T? Was it vaginal atrophy?
No. 2312682
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>>2312671She said that in many photoshoots they were telling her to act more feminine, but she always envied the male models.
I have a theory, might be dumb though nonnas, but do you think that some GNC women, especially the ones who don’t abide to femininity at all , who are told that they must abide to femininity and who are pretty much attracted to men, feel the need to become TIFs because at least a gay relationship is seen as more serious than a “woman who looks like a man” with a man.
As much as I hate to say it but the way our society is structured greatly influenced the rise of gender ideology.
No. 2312702
>>2311623Yes it's definitely a LARP just like their gender one, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
>>2311672The male entitlement in this post is crazy kek. Your partner being infertile
can actually be a deal breaker for a lot of people, like what is he even talking about? Not many people would be fine with their partner having SRS or suddenly waking up with different genitals either, they would most likely just break up and feel bad about it. Most aren't attracted to extremes and people who get botched surgeries and implants outside of porn sick men who see it as a novelty or something to gawk at. All of those traits are dealbreakers even in normal people kek. Being trans is even worse though because the person actively lives in a delusion that they expect you to validate every single day, at least with the other ones you can chalk it up to it either being unintentional/unavoidable (like being infertile) or being able to classify it as a mental illness without being called a bigot (women who get crazy implants). You could also break up with someone who "randomly woke up with a penis" without it being transphobic too, and it wouldn't have been their fault either so it falls under the unintentional thing as well. What's uniquely messed up about trans ideology is how you're basically
choosing to do this to yourself and no one can say anything negative about it, choose not to fuck you or leave without you throwing a tantrum and writing all this retarded shit to justify being an undesireable faggot. I don't want kids and I still don't want to date a troon because I would have to validate their delusions and engage with their LARP instead of being with a mentally healthy person or at least someone who I can try to get help for without being told it's healthy to be mentally ill. I know what trans people are and they're still repulsive, even the most passing ones are still delusional and should just live as gnc people. The "vibes" that are off are that you are all a bunch of insane people who need others to play pretend and who thrive off of recreating sexist stereotypes and being homophobic kek.
No. 2312708
>>2312702The comparison between an infertile woman and a TIM always felt disingenuous to me, even when I was a TRA. A woman who is infertile is still a woman, a child free person would be okay with them or even someone who wants to adopt, but a TIM is a man to anyone and unless you’re a flavor of bisexuality or gay if you’re a man then you’ll never be remotely interested because you’ll always think “oh this person was born a man…this person is a man”, there are certain characteristics that we unconsciously pick up, from the gait, to the feel of their body that at a certain point you can’t really miss. If you choose for some reason to be with a TIM you have to be able to stomach this.
TIM are registered as a man who wants to be woman to the average citizen and the courtesy of pandering to them is out of societal pressure and just basic human desire to get it over with. I was giving lip service as a TRA but I never believed the words I was saying to a T kek.
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Re: the TIM movie
None of these movies tell to kids to respect the qt+ pronouns or htr/testosterone is a magical thing that helps you to fuck your body and makes you end up in the 21%, for heaven's sake! Besides Frolo is a villain and what he did to Esmeralda in the scene it was what a villain would do!
No. 2312721
>>2312708Yeah, they're two completely different things, it's just a retarded comparison. Being infertile as a woman doesn't magically turn you into a male, they say "TERFs" are the ones reducing women to their reproductive functions when they're the ones constantly trying to use that as a failed gotcha and implying any woman who can't have kids= same as a troon aka a male when that's not true at all. They just come off as entitled, rapey and homophobic when they complain about other people not being attracted to them too as if it's some form of hate speech kek, incel mentality really. They also
do already have people who will fuck them: other troons and chasers. So they should just shut the fuck up and stop trying to force themselves onto everyone else when we don't want them.
>>2312709The difference is putting troon shit into movies is just going to age horribly kek, it'd be like exposing your kids to lobotomies and saying they're a good thing in their cartoons. The issue isn't really showing kids serious topics, it's trying to indocrinate them into self harming and delusions from a young age.
No. 2312882
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>>2312721"See Jimmy? There are people who believe they're in the wrong sex and deserve hormones and surgeries to become in their real sex, otherwise they might kill themselves. You can even join them someday… Or today, I have seen you playing with dolls. Are you sure that you are a boy? Because boys don't play with girl's toys, that's gay".
No sane parent ever.
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nonnies i genuinely don't know how much longer i can keep seeing shit like this on my feed. aside from the obvious (turning taking life-altering drugs into a cutesy thing) "don't die wondering" was literally a slogan from the gay/lesbian rights movement. is there ANYTHING these people won't co-opt?
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Probably because the fetish/porn sick ones were the louder ones? And you didn't stop them, but also encourage them to take women places? And don't give me that "third gender" crap, it was a way to cover homophobia back then and you know it.
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>>2311963I hate that they're being purposely obtuse with this because how do you think telling children that "some boys were actually born girls and some girls were actually born boys, and that's totes
valid!" is not all confusing considering children are already self aware about the differences between boys and girls, and I'm not even talking about in stereotypes or in a social kind of way either. gender which is a set in stone blantly obvious, can't be changed thing, and were having shows aimed at them telling them the opposite that they can change it if they feel "off" or don't fit in with their assumed gender roles. that's something more harmful than helpful and it astonishes me how TRAs don't seem to get that.
picrel somewhat related. retarded for the sake of being retarded. for anyone confused, they're saying Gazelle is trans because only male gazelles have longer and thicker horns than the female ones. this is the back at the barnyard "Otis is a trans cow" all over again. ironically though these are like the rare times they admit there's gender differences between males and females kek
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>>2313268I remember a comic about how the artist never knew that her student was being SA until very late, and it would have been so sad if wasn't because she draw a scene of her telling to her students (I guess 6-7 years old?) that "some girls have penises and some boys have vaginas, so that's why I'm calling you 'kids' (in a 'neutral way' in my language)".
I understand telling to kids about SA and how adults shouldn't touch them without consent and even then, is wrong, but why is important the crap about "boys with vaginas and girls with penises"? So they can understand why a 'girl' is dressing in the same room and his "funny willy" is there?.
No. 2313428
>>2311949I have a coworker who keeps (accidentally, I assume) misgendering a he/him TIF coworker as they/them. I kind of want to be like “Uhm ackshually SHE identifies as a man!” for the lulz but also I don’t want to start drama at my workplace, I just want to show up, get paid, and go home. Already I’m one of only maybe 10% of people in our woke 200+ person workplace who doesn’t put pronouns in my email signature (and one of only maybe 5 non-pronoun-havers who is a white woman, not a man or a
WOC, who I feel like have more leeway to not adhere to the pronoun shit) so people probably already suspect something’s up with me but idgaf.
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>A moid is more important than-
No.
No. 2313935
>>2313626This is where transgender ideology and autism fakers play into each other. Actual autistic people are very likely to have difficulty with non reality-based pronouns (and genderism in general if they haven’t been sucked into it themselves) but they are shouted over by neurotypical autism fakers claiming that “Well
I identify as autistic and I have no problem remembering all my friends’ neopronouns!”.
Even the autistic TIFs I know trip over pronouns constantly, including their own. They’re always self-flagellating over it. I wish I could shake them out of it somehow.
No. 2314016
>>2312882Kek, cursed.
>>2313190The thing is I knew about trannies and crossdressers when I was a kid, but they weren't being actively celebrated like this nor was the message in the media that they're totally real women/men. They were usually just used as the butt of a joke, or when represented seriously it was still acknowledged that they are
crossdressers not actually the opposite gender/sex/whatever. What's innapropriate to show kids is all the fetish shit and also this idea that if you become a troon everyone
has to see you as a real woman/male and this delusional idea that that is even attainable at all.
No. 2314024
>>2313935The rigid thinking in autism is actually a significant contributing factor to why autists have a high degree of transgenderism. That and a large portion of autists are actually mentally stunted like CWC.
That said, I’ve also noticed the phenomenon where troons don’t get each other’s pronouns correctly or even their own. The biggest thing I’ve noticed there though is MTFs will be completely shocked and outraged and want people who get their pronoun wrong once to be social pariahs, but will consistently forget to use they/them for specialer genderspecials and will still call FTMs she and everyone is supposed to let it slide. It’s interesting it’s like they don’t actually buy into anyone’s garbage except their own.
No. 2314106
>>2314055Yeah, I think it's a mix of two things. One is that testosterone makes them hungrier so they eat more and gain weight. They're under the illusion that testosterone will give them more muscles, which in turn makes them burn more fat so eating more is "fine". And thus they overeat and rapidly gain weight.
The second thing is quite obvious in a lot of them like you said, they didn't fit into female beauty standards of being thin and pretty so they went the "rebel route" and go "well then I'm not even a woman so I can't be an ugly woman, ha!" as a cope for being fat and/or "ugly"
No. 2314209
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even troons seem to realize that the larp is ending soon
No. 2314464
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Of course David would do that. Anybody not saying shit or saying the opposite of what they want to hear is a "terf" or "traitor".
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Do these girls really think them indentifying as trans change reality?
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I’m sure this is already common knowledge, but even AI is made to not hurt the wittle feefees of the trannies, but of course that is to be expected. Imagine us actually getting humanoid robots in the future like fucking Detroit: Become Human where they’re assuring moids in dresses that yes they are women and that real women shouldn’t complain about them invading their spaces because the real women are being “transphobic”, KEK. “No misogyny”, even though the AI will give a misogynistic answer if you ask it about trannies, KEK.
No. 2315453
>>2315065>>2315162They sadly will have to learn it the hard way as they refuse to listen to evil terfs warning them. It will be so embarrassing for them to look back on having posted this online for all to see it
>That will not deter a scrote, you are in fact feeding him the exact strategy to manage to take advantage of you.They're making nice guys stay away from them by being delusional and insisting they're gay, while the filthiest kind of men who want to take advantage of them by lying are handed strategies on a silver plate. They're going to happily be the bottom for those "gay" males and after a dozen of times figure out maybe there was supposed to be more to sex than a man using you for anal
No. 2315459
>>2315345>I honestly wonder what makes trans people so high up on the social justice hierarchy and how the fuck they even got there in such a short amount of time. Who's in power? Generally conservative, sexist and homophobic old men.
Troonism offers you a highly sexist conservative view of men and women while also being homophobic. Troonism is promising to turn icky gay people into straight citizens, they're advocating that real women are made by a dress and makeup, and not only that but you get unwanted social groups (minorities, gays, mentally ill people) to BEG you to sterilize them so they can't pass on their own genes. Women beg you to take your lady boner into their private spaces and changing rooms, and you don't even have to transition or shave your beard. It's fucking brilliant for them! Troonism has largely been a men's right activist group since the beginning, they've always been vocal their main enemy has always been terfs, aka feminists. Yet, they get to blame feminists as if they caused it all when it all goes bad.
No. 2315470
>>2315459Yeah, that actually makes so much sense. No wonder troons hate terfs or just women who don’t abide to them more than anybody else. I never see them hate a man for being “transphobic” as much as they show hatred for “transphobic” women. I also remember a fellow nonna saying before that trannies only “hate” conservatives/right-wingers in name only. I have come to fully realize that gender ideology is actually conservative, but for some reason it’s shown and acted like a “progressive”, “leftist” thing, most likely to trick and deceive people. Just like a wolf in sheep’s clothing.
I also curiously wonder if gender ideology is actually conservative, then why would conservatives/right-wingers hate it?
No. 2315512
>>2315504I can't use this link
nonnie, it's a pdf and it won't download
A surprise month of Hellmas is now in effect. For the rest of the month of December, VPN posting will be banned.