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No. 2121106

This thread is to discuss your grievances with gender ideology.

>What is gender ideology?

Foundational to transgenderism, gender ideology is the belief that one’s “internal gender” can contradict one’s biological sex.

Gender ideology operates much like a religious cult. There is no scientific evidence that supports the notion that we have an “internal gender,” and yet doctors now medicalize and sterilize children with “transgender identities” who have been groomed by the cult. Anyone who does not reaffirm these delusions is labelled as a “transphobe” in order to discredit any dissenting voices of the cult.

Previous threads:
>>>/ot/2037097
>>>/ot/1894283
>>>/ot/1941872
>>>/ot/1991983
>>>/ot/2097274

Relevant /snow/ threads:
>>>/snow/2022374 (MTF general)
>>>/snow/2016968 (FTM general)

No. 2121116

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I absolutely fucking hate working in tech. It is full of trannies, amd they tend to hold positions in "Women at ABC company group", or DEI. Tech events are overran with them…

No. 2121118

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I have to share this TRA fail with you, nonnas.
>TRA scrote writes play called "Terf cunt"
>It's about JKR and the pro-troon HP actors
>Can't find any female actors willing to perform at first
>Renames play to "Terf"
>The play makes light of JKR fleeing her violent, abusive ex-husband
>There is also a troon character with a taped mouth to show how troons are never heard in online debate KEK
>Writer expects huge protests outside venue
>Nothing happens, no one cares
>40 people show up to watch the play in a 350 seat venue
>Among those 40 are journalists
>They are unimpressed and call it things like "a messy slog"
The scrote ego must hurt so much right now.
https://www.thetimes.com/article/921591fd-12d6-4c7e-9701-b311d05ed259?shareToken=b4ad246d8edd96eea27fbb39cd7169d9
https://www.thetimes.com/article/692ee57b-a9dd-4409-8640-7d1d0af3a72c?shareToken=e48f579d4522cd8eb98a6e07b71252b7

No. 2121122

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Alot of gender-critical westerners and euros using this Algeria situation as a excuse to be racist and misogynist towards brown women.

No. 2121124

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>>2121122
of course he is british (this got posted by official fc account, its not doxing)

No. 2121127

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No. 2121128

>>2121122
>This thread is to discuss your grievances with gender ideology.

No. 2121129

>>2120908
A woman would have appealed the IBA ban.

No. 2121130

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>>2121122
This whole situation feels so racial

No. 2121133

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>>2121122
Your fellow gender-critical defending a britcuck man wanting to beat algerian women. I looked at her profile and its just her sharing conspiracy theories and anti-semitism.(samefagging/baiting)

No. 2121134

>>2121133
Oh you’re a troon that’s why you’re still dragging this out

No. 2121136

Also could you stop replying to yourself

No. 2121137

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Caroline who seems to have never interacted with a algerian or brown person in her life shares a fake racial stereotyping statement saying how Imane not wearing a hijab makes her a man.

No. 2121138

>>2121118
This is kind of hilarious. Nobody gives a fuck about transwomen not even their traghag audience

No. 2121139

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>>2121137
Caroline gets called out in the comments by Algerians but she still keeps on doubling down.

No. 2121140

>>2120935
This is not what you said or even implied.

No. 2121142

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>>2121137
>>2121139
and this is what Caroline looks like. THe internet is destroying these middle aged peoples minds.

No. 2121145

>>2121134
And you are a troonfoiling cultist retard. We are allowed to talk about the Imane situation here and its still ongoing.

No. 2121146

…Is the tranny done massposting??(scrotefoiling)

No. 2121147

>>2121137
Khelif is a man because of his xy chromosomes

No. 2121148

>>2121146
The Imane situation is still viral news and we have been allowed to talk about it here in this thread. Also I'm reporting you for troonfoiling. Enjoy the ban retard.

No. 2121150

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Certain News organisations have come out to apologise about the misinformation they have spread about Imane. But its too late and the damage has already been down.

I low-key want Imane to sue all these outlets.

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No. 2121152

>>2121148
Fuck off of course I’m gonna call you a tranny when you use radfem as an insult on the terf website retard(infighting)

No. 2121155

>>2121151
This literally doesn’t mean that they’re not intersex oh my god it was never a tranny situation in the 1st place

No. 2121156

>>2121155
most people who don't follow radfem or right wing social media think Imane is trans

No. 2121158

>>2121152
>on the terf website

OK you are a newfag, you can fuckoff to your radblr/radtwt echo-chamber. Also I never said radfem, i said gender-critical, Nice way of outing yourself that you think both gender-criticals and radfems are the same.

No. 2121159

>>2121138
I know right? It's so funny how the playwright was trying to hype it up like omg so controversial - and no one bothered to protest and barely anyone wanted to see it kek

No. 2121162

>>212115
i beaver understand what’s going on in this thread even when ive lurked

No. 2121164

He does not meet the eligibility criteria to participate in women's boxing. If any of you think he's a woman after that, you are on the wrong website.

No. 2121165

>>2121155
i feel like intersex babies should be killed because they’re basically all men(baiting retard)

No. 2121166

>>2121156
Isn't that due to news outlet immidiately reporting on this without getting the facts straight a couple of days ago which now lead to them apologising or correcting their articles to avoid getting sued.

No. 2121167

>>2121118
Surprised that first review even gave it 3/5 stars. From the way it's worded, I expected a 1 or 2.

No. 2121169

>>2121166
Probably. The problem is the original news that assumed Imane to be trans is going to reach more people than the apology.

No. 2121170

>>2121118
>Nothing happens, no one cares
>40 people show up to watch the play in a 350 seat venue

I keked so hard at that. Thank you nona. The guy who wrote this sounds unhinged, like a stalker. He kept saying he had "invited Rowling", but basically "I don't care for her", but "that would be cool if she came", yeah right.

No. 2121171

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>>2121158
Technically LC is indeed a terve website because moid posting is not allowed and that includes troons.

No. 2121195

>>2121170
He seems like an actual idiot. He can't even describe what his own play is about in this debate video. Just keeps grinning and umming.

No. 2121197

>>2121195
fuck I feel like watching HP now

No. 2121202

Is the boxing sperg out finished? I want to bitch about some personal gender ideology BS I’m dealing with but I don’t want it lost in a wall of infighting.

No. 2121203

>>2121165
Damn I guess the mods wanna suck on some intersex cock(baiting)

No. 2121205

>>2121202
Go ahead nona.

No. 2121216

>>2120880
> Won't some of you please answer why she passed gender tests in IBA's competition for years before failing for the first time when she won against the Russia's pet boxer whose record had to stay spotless? Did she transition from XX to XY in the meantime?

If she is XX, it is trivial to do a DNA test and prove it. Any of those dna testing companies like 23 and me tell you your chromosomes. The fact none of these people have done their own test to prove they are XX when it’s so cheap is proof they are XY.

The question is whether she has Swyer or CAIS because those are female conditions (SRY region inactive, or cannot respond to androgens). If she has 5ARD or PAIS, those are male conditions.

No. 2121222

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>>2121195
Gotta love Bindel's face when she listens to the wanker.

No. 2121226

>>2121116
I work in video games and I feel your pain.

No. 2121230

>>2121150
A good chunk of American news outlets are funded by George Soros, and a good number of them are owned by Jeff Bezos, what did you expect

No. 2121236

>>2121230
Soros contributes only a tiny percentage of the finances of whatever thing he's accused of "owning" by the mainstream conservative media.

No. 2121248

>>2121170
>>2121118
He sounds like a narcissist - of course his feeling are getting hurt by this. Not even the 'controversy' helped him in promoting the play.

No. 2121249

>>2121202
Last night I ran into a really good friend from highschool. She is a very sweet and passionate person but ended up in a codependent marriage with some scrote. I believe they divorced last year. She was always very active as an ally for the Gay straight alliance in highschool. But over the years I feared that she fell down the libfem hell hole with her divorce from her scrote, which probably really threw her into the “queer” (spicy straight) crowd. I can understand why since she needed community and that group will take literally anyone who apes the cult’s lines.

I noticed she was sporting a “they” pin and it sunk my heart. Do nonnas think it’s worth it to rekindle a friendship? Any tips for navigating it? I know the basics but it’s just hard to be around people who support patriarchy and gender roles even though they scream that they are dismantling it from the top of their lungs.

No. 2121255

>>2121249
Is she aware of your opinions on genderism?

No. 2121256

>>2121222
Kek that picture's name nona

No. 2121259

>>2121255
No, and I wouldn’t want to just dump them on her if she already so deep in it that she is wearing a gender pin. If we do hang out I would hope I could plant seed of doubt about it all.

No. 2121272

>>2121259
Try it nona, while some people are deep into the gendercult others might just be in need of hearing other opinions to properly wake up that doubting voice they had in the back of the head.

No. 2121305

>>2121158
A fat British retard who hates brown gnc women isn't a "gender critical", Mr tranny, just a regular ole misogynist. It's painfully obvious what you're trying to do and this thread is infested by baiting trannies.

No. 2121324

>>2121147
The story confuses me. Is it an intersex man or an intersex woman?

No. 2121326

>>2121324
Read the previous thread.

No. 2121333

>>2121249
It depends on how much she has integrated her new ~* totes they/them queer *~ into her identity. I still have a handful of gendie friends from my handmaiden days and gender politics are pretty much never a topic among them, at least not when I'm around, and I make sure to avoid topics that might steer the conversation in that direction. I actually have moments where I wonder if they figured I'm crypto but like me enough to keep up the friendship
So it is doable without having to put too much work in, but there will be times you will have to walk on egg shells and those moments will have you question whether it's worth it. It pretty much boils down to her level of autism kek

No. 2121343

>>2121170
lol. sounds like this entire play is just some notice me senpai bs.

No. 2121348

>>2121116
That shit is so annoying, that's one of the worst thing about the trannypocolypse. Like absolutely no female only spaces in fields which they're needed. I hate that trannies are in most of the things I'm in, they're so gross and annoying. It's hard to find other women in tech fields

No. 2121362

>>2121118
They’re never going to get normies to give a shit. It didn’t happen with the Hogwarts game, why the fuck would it happen with this. Dude is a moron.

No. 2121369

>>2121272
I’ll tread lightly and see if it’s super ingrained yet. I think maybe before getting fucked over by a moid would have been a better time to try or maybe in a few years when it’s not so fresh.
>>2121333
She is not autistic but I wouldn’t be surprised if she claimed it since a few they/thems I know think “oh I’m really interested in this topic! It’s my special interest guises! I’m autistic!” I think it may be more along the lines of whatever makes someone codependent (low self confidence?) that makes her really into it.

I think I’ll try to hang with her and see how it goes. Hopefully it’s just that rose tinted glow of “finding yourself” after a bad divorce. She really is an awesome woman.

No. 2121392

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Pink News, a TRA propaganda outlet run by Benjamin Cohen whose goal was to promote transgender medicine to financially boost his husband's trans charity Mermaids is experiencing some whistleblowing by staff for abusive workplace practices.

No. 2121396

>>2121118
This is the power of ignoring shit. I never heard about this play, glad this guy didn't get the attention he ordered.

No. 2121466

>>2121392
Is Pink news treated seriously by the general public?

No. 2121475

>>2121118
Amazing, everyone's so done with troon shit that even the TRAs suddenly had to wash their hair that night. I wonder if the topic had anything to do with the abysmal turnout. Men mocking women who escape DV and champion women's rights doesn't sound too good, no matter how much lipstick they're wearing.
>>2121369
Tbh she's probably glad to have found such a welcoming cult so soon after her divorce. See it as rekindling a friendship with a friend who became an MLM hun after losing her job, you're going to have to tread carefully but if you exclusively talk about normal topics and grey rock her when her special gender comes up she might be saved. Ultimately it's her choice to fuck up her life, and while you can try to draw her away from gendies by being more interesting and less retarded, at the end of the day she's the one who's responsible for her life. Even if she does get the tit chop and stickerbook tattoos there's no guarantee she won't regret it afterwards and come back to normal.

No. 2121518

>>2121118
Could've just renamed the play "reddit"

No. 2121668

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Lacryboy (FTM creator of popular tranny art such as Roachification, and the pronouns timeline that became a meme)has chimed in on women's sports with a never-seen-before hot take! she doesn't care. also pretends to be a creep at the end instead of a bifujo

No. 2121777

>>2121324
An intersex man

No. 2121920

>>2121362
And an attention-whore. He must be insufferable to be around as a person.

>>2121392
Narc gay men deserve it.

>>2121466
It doesn't have a Wikipedia article full of smears and libel, so I bet it is.

No. 2122029

>>2121118
KEK troons didn't learn from the hogwarts legacy debacle that people actually either love JKR or simply don't care at all that she's supposedly a terf.

Side note, now that it's been confirmed in meta that troons invaded the thread I feel better about all the anons pretending the males in the Olympics are female or calling them "she" instead of he, ofc other troons would do that to shit up the thread

No. 2122064

>>2122029
>now that it's been confirmed in meta
link?

No. 2122069

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picrel of Khelif wearing a groin guard for men. i’m so done with the gaslighting.

No. 2122074

>>2122069
In boxing it's typical for women to wear groin guards. If you don't know a lot about boxing that's okay, but maybe then the Imane spergout isn't for you because you'll probably end up getting confused and disoriented as you don't know know the context of boxing.

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>>2122069
Women wear groin guards too. I don't even care what she is at this point this infight is getting to banging heads on wall retarded

No. 2122081

>>2122076
>"Women wear groin guards too."
>Posts pic of tranny
YWNBAW

No. 2122084

It's an intersex XY. No XYs, regardless of what identity they go by, belong in women's spaces.

No. 2122087

>>2122074
which is why i said groin guard for MEN. it looks different from the ones for women, it has space for the bulge.

No. 2122093

oh god not the fucking olympic bullshit again
anyway.
>>2121392
progressive moids are the worst kind if bosses. and they love gender ideology bc ut cames with constant language and thought policing.
really it kills me that gendershit is so popular with ppl who think they're revolutionaries. it's the most individualistic, corporate friendly and neoliberalism-compatible ideology you could think of.

No. 2122112

>>2122081
at this point it's better not to interact with the 4cs and newfags, just report and move on

No. 2122140

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>>2122081
Here's one with a built in bulge

No. 2122152

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>this is who khelif is fighting against today
how has this person passed gender tests??? what?(bait)

No. 2122195

>>2122152
>short hair = bad man

No. 2122204

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>>2122195
he looks more like a man/thai ladyboy than the algerian(bait)

No. 2122224

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What is it with trannies on twitter talking about mold on JK Rowling's wall? Is that even mold? I don't know why stuff about JK Rowling's wall is being pushed on my feed because I really don't care. The screenshot isn't from my feed though, someone else posted it in their tweet.

No. 2122226

>>2121392
Great to see. They are among the absolute worse.

>>2121226
Right back at you nona ♥

>>2121348
Same. There was a debacle at the Grace Hopper conference last year where men turned up in droves. All they had to do was say they 'identified as women' which is accepted. The conference organisers said they couldn't do anything against it. Just proves the madness of when the gender ideology meets reality and nothing makes sense anymore. This year I had to sat through a gigantic hulking troon making a seminar on "sexual harassment" and you know statistically he was the one doing the harassment.

No. 2122227

>>2122224
They're saying she has brain damage caused by mold exposure, because only brain damaged retard would question trans ideology in their little world. And it's not mold it's some sort of flower mural.

No. 2122248

>>2122224
Kek as if a millionaire wouldn't fix mold. It's clearly a mural. Troons are so fucking desperate to find anything negative about JKR.

No. 2122297

>>2122224
Since when do trannies not have the right to marry? Is end of life care for trannies filled with mockery and ridicule to strip them of their dignity? Trannies violate their own right to private life by posting anything and everything online without thinking about the possible consequences and then throw a fit when someone comments on it. Lunacy.

No. 2122377

>>2122297
yes they are mentally ill

No. 2122385

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No. 2122404

>>2122069
>former women’s world champion Mária Kovács bitterly remarked that in modern women’s boxing, “there is a 20 percent chance that one of the athletes will suffer a testicular injury.”

No. 2122433

>>2121142
This is how I always imagine those homophobic, slightly autistic "gendercrits" who spam those really cringe out of touch facebook boomer style motivational pictures to look like, but honestly the amount of mentally ill spamming she does on Twitter makes her look like a bot. Literally hundreds of tweets and retweets about Imane over the span of few days.

No. 2122455

>>2122204
jealous because she has bigger biceps than you fag?(infight bait)

No. 2123086

>>2122433
thank god we have a small contingent of boomer female autists who have the time and dedication to counter all the frenetic posting done by tranny discords

No. 2123143

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>>2122433
Watching the Imane debacle and some truly braindead takes (picrel) from lolcow to ovarit, you are correct. They aren't just on twitter.

No. 2123335

>>2123143
Even radical ramblings went mask off. This is the most unexpected yet amusing way for radical feminism to go

No. 2123390

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So apparently imane and the italian boxer knew each other beforehand… imane may or may not be eligible to compete, but the girls terfs turned into a martyr of gender is definitely an untrustworthy crybully.

No. 2123392

>>2123143
There's also the braindead take that Khelif could never be intersex because Algeria is a conservative country that would instakill anyone who's GNC.

No. 2123395

>>2123143
Im confused, why do they think a woman wouldn't be able to spar with men? As long as it's not a competition, you can box anyone, right?

No. 2123419

>>2123390
Why are you assuming Imane is being honest? Even if they were cordial towards each other while at the gym, it's not manipulative of Carini to cry and be upset after taking a beating from him in the actual event and quickly losing.

>>2123395
Women and men can spar. Afaik the fighters don't strike at full force, just test their training/skill. If Carini sparred with Imane, it makes her crying after the actual fight (when he hit full force) more reasonable.

No. 2123510

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What gets me about gender ideology is how much it encourages narcissism and individualism. People are encouraged to gaze at their own navels 24/7 and endlessly search for the super special label that will totally fit their personality for real this time (it won't). of course while they're endlessly focused on themsleves, they never actually pay attention to sytsemic issues.
you see that a lot with troon comics and art, it's always about themselves and they'll fill hundred of pages with dissecting their every thought and deed and handwringing about their identity. it's terminal self-obsession.

No. 2123515

>>2123510
The profile picture is similar to someone talked about in the TIF thread on /snow/, is it the same person? Or a different person using her art as the pfp? She's the one that brags about how testosterone makes her bald.
>it's terminal self-obsession.
This is a problem with a lot of gendies, troons, and kweer people. They think they're the smartest and most advanced person in the room always. It's why usually they only hang around with each other, because nobody else can take the constant monologues and self-centered orations. It's also why as soon as 1 troon walks in, suddenly the whole thing is troon-centric, e.g., all the lesbian subreddits that were taken over by troons.

No. 2123516

>>2123510
>This identity based on feelings does not fit me because of my physical attributes
The irony.

No. 2123530

>>2123515
That user is well known for having awful gendie takes, I wouldn't be surprised if shes been posted on the TIF thread

No. 2123543

>>2123510
>let's be real there's an image that pops up when you think of it
KEK isn't this the same reason why most TIFs feel like they can't be women? I'm waiting for her to follow this line of thought until she loops back to being a regular butch
>>2123515
It is indeed the same TIF you're thinking of, the one that makes comics about her transition

No. 2123783

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There should be training on how to spot narcissism in people at every level of compulsory education. Narcissists should be shunned and heavily discriminated against - they ruin lives, especially if they are male. Scum of earth even worse than drug addicts. You think you hate narcissistic men, but you don't hate them enough.
>https://quillette.com/2024/08/04/gaslighting-scotlands-rape-victims-in-the-name-of-trans-inclusion/

No. 2123802

>>2123510
TBF they're right about troons worshipping white moids, for all the "black homeless transwoman sex worker" scams you see online, you only ever see white former neo nazi trannies voices. I don't get troons but sometimes I wonder what the fuck black MTFs think about 99% of other transgenders being nazi 4channers that transitioned to get with lesbians and pretend they're suddenly a brave communist or whatever. Especially because all the black trannies seem to be coping gays too. Then again, theyre still misogynist freaks so I probably shouldn't feel some sort of sympathy for them.

No. 2123805

>>2123783
I am unsurprised that this happened honestly. How awful.

No. 2123813

>>2123419
>it's not manipulative of Carini to cry and be upset after taking a beating from him in the actual event and quickly losing.
Except Carini didn't take "a beating" and rather gave up after a single punch, in a BOXING match. Did you even watch the match in question?

No. 2123827

>>2123419
>it's not manipulative of Carini to cry and be upset after taking a beating from him in the actual event and quickly losing.
She took one hit and forfeited in 46 seconds. It was 100% acting and she received a huge "money prize" from IBA for doing so.

>>2123143
Some are also claiming she must be a man because she played football with boys as a child despite her being bullied for "playing a boys' sport" according to her past interview. These gendercrit hysterics should honestly have their own thread for milk because I went down the rabbit hole of their community on twitter and there's a huge overlap between them, Trumpfags, tradthots and covid denialists and they're all united by homophobia. The amount of cognitive dissonance is staggering when you're posting about how convicted rapist Epstein's friend Trump will saves us women yet still post the infographs about men being responsible for 90+% of sexual assault.

No. 2123832

>>2123783
What are surefire ways to spot narcissist males? Whether TIMs or in general.

No. 2123871

>>2123832
if they're male, they're likely already narcissistic.

No. 2123889

>>2123832
if they're a TIM, they're always a narcissist.

No. 2123924

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>>2123832
probably safe to assume all tils are narcissistic. it takes vast aloubts if self-centeredness to troon out. just look at how most teoon art is aout thelsleves and their trooning out journey, or wanting others to be like themselves

No. 2123935

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New press conference dropped.

https://www.iba.sport/news/iba-clarifies-the-facts-the-letter-to-the-ioc-regarding-two-ineligible-boxers-was-sent-and-acknowledged/


TLDR;
The International Boxing Association (IBA) clarified the disqualification of Imane Khelif (Algeria) and Lin Yu-ting (Taiwan). They were disqualified due to not meeting gender eligibility criteria, confirmed through two separate blood tests in 2022 and 2023. Despite informing the International Olympic Committee (IOC), no action was initially taken. Both athletes were notified and given the right to appeal to the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS). Lin did not appeal, and Khelif's appeal was dismissed due to non-payment. In 2023, the IBA amended rules to strictly define male and female categories based on chromosomes. The IBA continues to assert that the athletes’ hormonal imbalances give them an unfair advantage and pose a danger to other female boxers. The IOC has denied being informed of the case, leading to a press conference by the IBA to address the issue.

Is the IBA implying that Imane has XY chromosomes? Because this could have serious consequences if there is no way for anybody to actually prove this, it's just an outright smear campaign.

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>>2123802
Since black trannies tend to be HSTS, while white trannies tend to be AGP (this is a generalisation of course), I think they just don't care, because they still want a cock of a 'straight' moid and AGPs hardly ever even cut off their dicks and are predominately attracted to women? It's lust over any sense of racial grievance.

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>>2123939
Sure dude.

No. 2123947

>>2123935
The blood test was to test chromosomes and the result were XY, Imane dropped the appeal because it would have made thoses results public, thus revealing to the world that she's really a he, and maybe that would have been too dangerous with "her" conservative familly in "her" backward algerian village ?

No. 2123948

>>2123935
I don't know enough about how these tests work, but they mentioned a blood test and that they had hormonal imbalances, I don't get how that would have to do with their chromosomes then?

No. 2123952

>>2123948
Ok nevermind, it seems that they did test for chromosomes and hormon imbalances were identified in addition to the chromosomal differences.

No. 2123957

>>2123935
So IBA is outright lying about informing IOC about these test results and are still refusing to specify what tests they actually ran? Khelif did appeal their decision but apparently withdrew due to not having enough funds to fight their decision. Great news for all female athletes that if you piss off a Russian organization by defeating their special fighter you can get called a man immediately and everyone will believe it because you're "ugly".

>Following many complaints from several coaches, boxers agreed to gender testing. Blood sample collection was made on 17 May 2022. Sistem Tip Laboratory from Istanbul (License Number: 194-MRK) issued its report on 24 May 2022, after the competition ended. The laboratory detected results that didn’t match the eligibility criteria for IBA women’s events.

>At the next IBA Women’s World Boxing Championships 2023 in New Delhi, Khelif and Lin were tested following their consent again before their first fights. Blood sample collection was made on 17 March 2023. Dr Lal PathLabs from New Delhi issued its report on 23 March 2023. The findings were absolutely identical to the first test results.
So they aren't even specifying HOW they didn't match the criteria? Like specifying what condition exactly led to her being disqualified and how this "Y chromosome" was detected? And why Khelif wasn't disqualified in 2022 already and being allowed to compete again in 2023 despite the lab results apparently being identical? This is such bullshit, they can just smear any female athlete in the future if they want.

>IBA cannot comment on the previous iterations and lack of leadership actions in this regard.

Kek, they can't even come up with an excuse why Khelif was able to compete before but was kicked out after defeating Amineva.

No. 2123961

>>2123957
You can't just give to the media people's medical information without their consents, khelif's the only one who can prove "she" is really a woman by showing those test results. The fact he won't is telling enough kek

No. 2123963

>>2123961
Anon, I very much doubt she has those test results for herself or ever even seen them. You can draw your own conclusions if they can't even tell what tests were ran or explain why she was allowed to compete in 2023 despite her test results in 2022 being identical but was disqualified after defeating a Russian boxer BY an organization proven to have fixed fights during the Rio olympics and being notorious in the boxing world for being corrupt and led by mob bosses.

No. 2123965

>>2123963
Imane just has to give permission for the results to be released, not physically possess them kek.

No. 2123966

>>2123963
>On 24 March 2023, IBA Secretary General & CEO at the time, George Yerolimpos, informed both Khelif and Lin about their exclusion from the Championships for not meeting the eligibility criteria. The athletes received a copy of their testing and were informed about the possibility of appealing to the CAS within 21 days.
>Khelif and Lin were informed accordingly about the decision and acknowledged it by signing the papers. The test details were attached to the letter.

No. 2123967

>>2123966
I hope they reveal their test results or take a new one administered by the IOC to make this bullshit be over and done with. There's genuinely no trusting a mob organization, multiple large profile and olympic level boxers have come out to say that IBA's statements mean nothing.

No. 2123968

>>2123967
It's up to the boxers to reveal the results.

No. 2123993

Imane had 2 whole years to either give the IBA the permission to release the test results, or to take a test himself. If he was actually a woman, he would have said "I have proven XX chromosomes, I'm not a man" a week ago. It's so incredibly obvious he knows he's XY and has known for a long while now. It sucks he was brought up as the wrong gender because his doctors fumbled when he was born, but if he had any moral integrity he wouldn't be participating in the Olympics right now. Not only is it unfair for women to go against a man (and it doesn't matter if he has lost fights before. Fallon Fox has also lost fights, does that mean trannies should be allowed in women's sports?), he's stealing this career defining opportunity from an actual woman.
Also I have no idea wtf anons who say he looks like a cute gymrat butch are on. It's like some of you have never seen a feminine gay man, because that's exactly what he looks and sounds like.

No. 2124004

>>2123832
Arguing instead of taking accountability when you point out something about his behavior. Being inconsiderate. Too obsessed with himself even if it's negative self talk. Thinking he knows a lot compared to others, even though you can see he is wrong a lot of times. Might have a savior complex.

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>>2123957
>>2123961
This blogger has seen the test results as he was leaked the letter that IBA sent to IOC with the test results, and he said the tests say Imane and the other boxer have XY chromosomes.

And really, what female athlete would let themselves be unfairly banned from the IBA over a test that they knew was incorrect. Anyone with XX chromosome would have raised holy hell, back in 2023, at some test that said they had XY and got them banned.
.
https://www.3wiresports.com/articles/2024/8/5/fa9lt6ypbwx5su3z20xxnfzgtao0gy

3 Wire Sports has seen the test results and a June 5, 2023 IBA letter to the IOC that says tests of Khelif, one in New Delhi, a prior test in Istanbul at the 2022 world championships, “concluded the boxer’s DNA was that of a male consisting of XY chromosomes.”

For both Khelif and Lin, the New Delhi test – from, as IBA disclosed Monday, the independent Dr Lal PathLabs – consists of three pages. In part:

The first page provides, along with basic identifying information for each athlete and date and time of sample collection, result summary – “abnormal” – and interpretation – “chromosome analysis reveals Male karyotype.” The second page offers photographic representation of the 22 paired autosomes and then, for each athlete, further depicts an X and a Y chromosome. Page three makes plain that the lab is a “national reference lab” and, as well, accredited by CAP, the Northfield, Illinois-based College of American Pathologists, and certified by the ISO, the Swiss-based International Organization for Standardization.

[…]

For both athletes, there is a summary on page 2 that says the same thing. Translated per Google from Turkish:

“Result: In the interphase nucleus FISH analysis performed on cells obtained from your patient's material, 100 interphase nuclei were examined with the Cytocell brand Prenatal Enumeration Probe Kit. An XY signal pattern was observed in all of them.”

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i feel sad for this little girl. i wish people would just leave her alone and let her box, this is all just high blood pressure bait because people can't stop being outraged over something.

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>>2124008
A child can look line any gender depending on styling, picrel a child TIM

No. 2124013

>>2124008
Stop baiting.

No. 2124014

>>2124012
that kid's forehead shape is obviously masculine whereas imane's isn't. you can take one look at imane's skull and see that it is feminine. this is absurd anyway, why can't you just give it a rest?

No. 2124017

>>2124014
hits different when you know he's a man and he knows he's a man and he still lies so that he can hit women at the olympics.
>he's a she
great. take some tests and reveal XX. he could put this to rest. the IOC could put this to rest.
neither do because they know what the results would be.
sucks that he was born without his penis and was raised to believe he was a girl. must be rough finding out.

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>>2124014
Right… Very feminine. I thought your argument was that we are faceblind and hate gnc women with masculine face, but suddenly androgynous little kids have very obvious masculine or feminine faces lmao

No. 2124020

>>2124017
>must be rough finding out.
clearly you don't believe this even remotely, if you had a shred of empathy and not a psycho you wouldn't be using such accusatory language. HE!!! wants to HIT WOMEN!!!! fuck off

No. 2124026

>>2124020
you don't have any empathy for the women getting punched by a man and losing out on their olympic dreams cause of the intrusion framed as inclusion of a man who has known he is a man since at least 2022 and still demands to invade.
the "woman" you support the most is a man.

No. 2124028

>>2124026
the IBA still can't prove imane is a man. if the IOC did the same tests and says she's a woman, which they did, then why would you rather choose to be oppressed?

No. 2124029

>>2123993
Agreed. I just wish it ends up going to the Court of Arbitration for Sport and the results are made public.

No. 2124030

>>2124028
The IOC did not do a test because "they don't want to act on suspicions" basically they're afraid to be cancelled by crazy trannies and their enablers

No. 2124031

>>2123993
>because his doctors fumbled when he was born
What? Do you think people get gender tests when they're born or something

No. 2124034

>>2124028
>if the IOC did the same tests and says she's a woman, which they did
source? they mention passports not sex tests.
"They reached all the eligibility rules in terms of sex and age via their passports,"
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/3104582/ioc-cites-transgender-athletes-passports-allowing-them-play-olympics/

>>2124031
>Do you think people get gender tests when they're born or something
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/differences-in-sex-development/
read here.
>>2124030
>they're afraid to be cancelled by crazy trannies and their enablers
i don't see them as an outsider afraid of trannies and their enablers. I see them as tranny enablers themselves. allowing males with DSDs to compete against women is the first step, and males with gender identities is the second.

No. 2124049

>>2123967
>There's genuinely no trusting a mob organization, multiple large profile and olympic level boxers have come out to say that IBA's statements mean nothing.
I don't think this is true. They are thinking of anti-Russia politics more than its actual conduct, which has been normal and impartial. Previously it was wholly controlled by Europeans. The actual problem seems to be that they lifted the ban on Russian and Belorussian boxers, which could be seen as self-serving but could also be seen as being more impartial.

Russians are the sworn enemies of most Westerners, so that clouds everything. Proof and level-headedness goes out the window very quickly when 'Russia' is invoked, you see it time and time again. No doubt they are enemies, or have been forced to be enemies, but it is kind of hysterical.

This issue should actually be seen as a means of attacking the IBA more so than pushing troons. I think they knew in advance that the IBA would speak up. When the interest / news cycle dies down they will quietly admit reality and the news won't say a thing, the people defending it will continue living in a fantasy and jump to the next thing. That's how it goes.

No. 2124056

>>2124049
sometimes it isn't anti-russian sentiment and it really is just russians serving themselves in a way that fucks over others. you don't sound too 'impartial' yourself.

No. 2124064

>>2124056
You're saying Russia faked Khelif's test ? It'd be so easy to kill the controversy but Imane just won't do it.

No. 2124067

>>2124056
In what way and how is it worse than Europeans serving themselves for the rest of us?
Because I have seen complete lies pushed uniformly in the 'reputable' news media recently about this issue and the IBA, since apparently journalists can't do the bare minimum of the job. As if proving things or saying something of substance were irrelevant.

I'm under no illusions about Russia, but neither am I about anyone else. Or about the IOC, which btw is controlled wholly by Western Europeans. Very international.

No. 2124069

New thread for everyone to go infight about Imane that way we can use this thread like we were using it before:

>>>/ot/2124068
>>>/ot/2124068
>>>/ot/2124068

No. 2124075

>>2124069
thank you nonna i'm tired as fuck of this kek

No. 2124077

>>2124075
Yeah and let's start reporting any retard sperging about Imane itt for derailing because they should be doing it in the Imane Khelif General thread. So fucking tired of this it's been 6 days.

No. 2124114

>>2124069
bless you. hope this works

No. 2124116

>>2124114
Just keep reporting any mention of Imane itt as derailing and let's all agree that the topic is quarantined to the Imane General thread until farmhands get the hint that that's how you solve this issue we've been having all week.

No. 2124144

>>2124069
Thank god, now I can come back and enjoy this thread

No. 2124164

>>2122224
I came here to post this because I was wondering the exact same thing and these braindead qrts keep popping up on my tl even though I never engage with tranny content. They're really reaching and apparently she changed her profile picture or something so they're claiming it's because they totally caught her and it means it's legit, which is retarded. It's also funny because they're the ones who usually have unclean living spaces in general but they want to project that onto some rich woman that probably has maids. Also imagine thinking you need your house to be molding to believe bio sex and female oppression is real when it's just common sense? Nothing she says even indicates any sort of mental illness or disturbance, and I'm tired of how everything is just reversed with these people. If you're a normie who isn't invested in gender shit you're somehow the mentally ill one who must be brain rotten by mold around you and…Not the trannies who are cutting off healthy body parts and trying to be a living stereotype? Ok.
>>2123510
this is why I can't take it seriously when trannies and gender believers call me self centered and say I should "support it to care about others and stop being so self centered" when it's them who are the egocentrical ones and constantly force everyone around them to play along. Like no amount of gaslighting can get me to agree that this somehow makes me more selfish than them lol

No. 2124168

>>2124069
Thank you, there has been more than enough baiting and derailing about that topic.
>>2124164
Narcissists often accuse others of being self-centered for having other opinions and needs. Classic.

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>>2122224
Do people truly think shes living in a moldy house lmao

No. 2124182

>>2124179
>omg she is a privileged billionaire in a castle so she is wrong
>omg she lives in a derelict mouldy house so she is wrong
Which one is it, troons?

No. 2124195

>>2124179
>is that why she's the way she is?
kek these people are so misogynistic and incapable of viewing women as thinking individuals that they believe the only reason a woman would ever disagree with them is because she is suffering from sort of impairment

No. 2124213

>>2124179
They're so fucking retarded, why would a billionaire have mold on her walls?

No. 2124259

>>2124179
She lives rent free in the heads of troons

No. 2124260

>>2124213
they know she doesn't, but they wanyt to make her look ggross and also pretend she only holds her opinions bc she's mentally impaired by hallucinogenic mould spores.
it's the old "women can't have political opinions bc hysteria" shit, repackaged

No. 2124349

>>2124004
They also LOVE the sound of their own voice. And all they talk about is related to them or what they know/think. It's always one-sided.

No. 2124409

>>2124179
jesus christ they're obsessed with her

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>watching video about femininity in horror
>disclaimer about how "women" doesn't cover only "vagina-havers"
When will it end?

No. 2124445

>>2124213
They thought RFKJ's brain worms were funny and a looking for a similar way to disparage her.

No. 2124459

>>2124429
We need to start calling scrotes and trannies testicle-havers. It is annoying how pozzed youtube is. I started watching a video about the children's book series Dear Dumb Diary and four minutes in the girl making the video starts ranting, completely unrelated to the topic, about respecting people's pronouns kek.

No. 2124477

>>2124459
Is the video by Lulaloopsey????

No. 2124536

>>2124179
the people saying its mold have probably only ever paid attention to the off-white painted drywall of their own modern homes, i bet

No. 2124746

>>2124069
Finally, thank you. Fucking hell.

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>>2121118
even the guardian savaged that retarded TRA play lmao
https://www.theguardian.com/stage/article/2024/aug/02/terf-review-assembly-rooms-edinburgh

No. 2125261

>>2124259
And that’s why there’s mold on her walls, because their heads are full of mold.

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I can't wait for all male trannies to age and start looking like horror hons in a future that has discredited the trans ideology. The hardcore fetishists won't quit, the ones that mangled their dicks can't quit, the schizos will become even more schizo and detached from reality. It will be a sight to behold.

No. 2125323

>>2124459
This happens ALL the time and it's so fucking annoying! Doesn't matter what the topic is, all of a sudden they'll start literally ranting that "respecting pronouns is so important and not hard u guys", ok fuck you, unsubscribing for the misogynistic views I now know you have.

No. 2125326

>>2124164
>It's also funny because they're the ones who usually have unclean living spaces in general
Kek I was thinking the same! Troons rooms are all fucking filthy and they willingly post it themselves because it's not even a thought in their minds that normal people clean their rooms

No. 2125330

>>2123832
>>2123871
>>2123889
Perhaps we can petition the mods to open this thread:
>>>/ot/188883
?

No. 2125334

>>2124459
>>2125323
This happens to me irl, my friends do that everytime we see each other irl so I avoid them more and more these days. We could be talking about work, hobbies (weeb shit or traveling but not only), celebrity gossip, the news, our families, health, etc. and they'll somehow make it about trannies and interrupt whatever we're doing or saying to yell about it in public. Last time it happened they.sperged over JKR again for some reason. I find it easier to avoid the topic online than irl now because at least if I read a post or watch a video and it happens I can just stop reading or watching, it's really that bad.

No. 2125344

>>2125088
How naive of them to think it's "high on good intentions".

No. 2125384

Sorry for blog, but it would be so funny to give obvious males the wrong medications pretending you think they're a woman and going "this dose is actually super harmful to men, some die within a year of taking it while only us women are fine, isn't that interesting?" Tho i guess in a way thats what hrt does for them just a bit slower(a-logging)

No. 2125387

>>2125344
Was thinking the same, the good intentions of… slandering a beloved kids book author who funds rape crisis centers and speaks out about female rights?

No. 2125413

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What seems so disingenuous about the whole gendie thing is that it's complete and utter dull sameness, by people who pose as originals. Overlooking their whole misguided idea that TERFs want the structures within the "gender cloud" to be static while they want to be dynamic, rather than normal people just thinking the whole idea is sexist bunk to begin with, they seem to have the assbrained idea that people are put off by them because they're "new" or "radical" when they're anything but. Men were putting on makeup in the 70s, that's 50 years ago, none of this is new in the slightest. It's all so played out, catgirl this, tboy rizz that, it's so entirely boring at this point. Subcultures seem to start dying off, or at least stop producing anything creatively interesting, whenever a uniform emerges, a certain hairstyle, vocabulary and lifestyle becomes common within the group, but that happened a long time ago within the tranny online circlejerk, and yet they're still going. Don't they get tired of their whole friendgroups, discords, and twitter feeds just being samey regurgitation?

No. 2125459

>>2125413
these trannies think GNC people of the past were troons in denial, what did you expect from people that want to reinforce gender stereotypes and make gay people go back to the closet by trooning out?

No. 2125608

How common is when troons larp the behavior of their respective chasers? E.g. a tif emulating generalized tif-chaser behavior such as when a bi moid bragposts about fucking some tif one night in their forums? Just wondering cuz all the "stereotypes" people criticize troons are now super outdated, and we have a new set of male/female coded behaviors in 2024

Anyway a tif in a mutual discord thinks she's above others and that women should "be grateful you're a girl or else (insert being subhuman)" as if she's the exception. Completely unwarranted tho, it's like her tic

No. 2125611

>>2123939
>amab
Fking retard there's no moid who bother to lie they have hormonal disorders kek

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>>2123939
>child-birthing hips
the child being birthed:

No. 2125632

>>2125615
I chuckled out loud lmao

No. 2125725

>>2125615
that's so horrorful nonaaaaa
i feel bad for the baby

>/s<
(learn2integrate)

No. 2125837

>>2124459
this is why I stopped watching video essays or most youtube creators, they'll almost always have some retarded intro or disclaimer about how not transphobic they are to appease trannies. i literally just stop watching and close the video
>>2125413
yup it's so ironic, they're just carbon copies of each other and so easy to predict despite pretending to be oh so different and special. I unironically predicted every single thing a troon I know would do and wear as soon as he trooned out without even trying because all he did was just copy every other troon out there and start dressing like a "goth" anime hooker basically and saying the typical troon shit. they feel like they were made in a factory yet wanna call the "cis" people that aren't retarded and nearly as same-y the boring ones. hilarious

No. 2125844

Recently on that fruitsite there's a post on two women who murdered the son of one of them, real father got mad. Happened in 2022 so not really recent news, but moids would assume any and all women are poons just for being gnc they'll "hurrdurr you wanna be a man? ywnbam". Who even asked. Moids just divide and conquer by calling any of us pooners. Using the term pooner in this series of threads is internalized misogyny.

I feel for the passed away little boy.

No. 2126080

>>2125844
>Using the term pooner in this series of threads is internalized misogyny.
I'm sorry, but if a tif corrects me and insists that I use "pregnant people" or "menstruating people" I will not hesitate to call her a "pooner." I'm tired of being so patient with these women who don't want to be helped, and no amount of "it's just that they have internalized misogyny" when they are simply and clearly misogynistic will make me change my mind. (To clarify, this is only for the tifs, I will not call any lesbian a "pooner" as your complaint seems to be.)

No. 2126168

>>2121668
>obese theater tranny doesn’t give a shit about sports
How groundbreaking

No. 2126403

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>I want to write this story but it involves a man and a woman, how can I make it less straight?
>Use genderspecial pronouns?

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No. 2126495

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thought this was funny

No. 2126592

>>2126495
Conservative men fucking trannies is an open secret by now. I don't care who trannies fuck, but it's just disgusting that "muh family values" type of men are out there collecting STDs to infect their bangmaids back home.

No. 2126819

>>2126592
Same type of men who are powerful anti-gay legislators in anti-gay countries but then get caught with male prostitutes

No. 2126988

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Just when I was think it was cool how youtube was giving me some interesting game trailers I get this shit

No. 2126989

>>2126495
I love how gendies think it's new, revolutionary information that older self-hating gay men secretly fuck faggots kek

No. 2126991

>>2126988
I hope the plot twist is that the mc is actually a giant terf and the goal is to make the troons realize how sexist they are and that they fucked up their bodies for life kek

No. 2126992

>>2126988
Why does everything need to be troon these days

No. 2126996

>>2126988
The way none of them are hot kek

No. 2127001

>>2126988
why does the black tif have a salad leaf under her chest?

No. 2127005

>>2127001

She could be your angle… or yuor devil

No. 2127008

>>2127005
KEKKK i didnt notice that

No. 2127010

>>2123510
I hate this bitch so much its unreal.She spends all day every day shittig herself about how mush she loathes women (muh karens!1!) and then has a heart attack when someone says something about her precious gay moids and male (only male!) trannies. she deserves to be doxxed by kiwi retards. yes i will take my ban for a-logging i hate her so much i will take it. she is such a miserable braindead whore, literally shayna  clifford gender-special edition. 

No. 2127015

>>2126495
the only people that want to fuck trannies in general are either fags, fellow trannies, women who want brownie points for being a lesbian while they're bi/straight, and women started dating a guy and then he trooned out halfway (even then they usually just leave), and polyamorous "people" that look like they stink and are probably full of STDs
>>2126988
looks like shit

No. 2127017

>>2126988
It's hilarious how the only one that looks somewhat happy/pleased is the one that looks like a sleazy coworker that would pressure you into buying his wife's beat up car and lose the money on gambling 5 hours later.

No. 2127019

>>2123510
>i'm not like other enbies
Curious. People seem to think the average enby is an unhygienic obese person with fried hair and ratty clothing. That's exactly who she is
>>2126592
Yes, and redpill circles function as a social scene for tranny chasers. Women can never live up to their ideal of a bepenised girlboy pederast bait so they cope by ranting about how inferior and un-feminine actual women are. They can't fit in with normal gays, can't fit in with straight men either.

No. 2127165

>>2127010
There’s only one x in doxed

No. 2127216

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>Maverique is a gender identity characterized by having an autonomous self that exists independently of the gender binary (man/male/masculinity and woman/female/femininity), along with anything derived from those genders, but is not of a neutral gender.

>Maverique is a combination of the word "maverick" and the French suffix "-ique". Maverick as a noun means: "A person who shows independence of thought and action, especially by refusing to adhere to the policies of a group to which he or she belongs", and as an adjective: "Characterized by or displaying independence of thought and action".


>The maverique flag was designed by Vesper H. on June 15, 2014. The color meanings are as follows:

>Yellow: "Primary/elementary gender; non-binary gender". Yellow was chosen because of its association with non-binary gender and because it is a primary color, which means that it cannot be obtained from combining other colors and is independent of them, similar to maverique's relationship to female/femininity and male/masculinity.
>White: Autonomy and independence from the spectrum of colors/genders, especially from the gender binary. White is also symbolic of maverique being based upon a blank gender state.
>Orange: Inner conviction in regard to one's own gender, and an unorthodox and individualistic nature.

NLOG: the gender kek

No. 2127342

>>2127216
it's fun to shit on regular trannies, but the neogender enby uwu ones are the fucking funniest imo. imagine having to make a whole new gender and pronoun set just so you can express you like something and are ~speshul~ kekk

No. 2127440

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is there a reason why people are obsessed with respecting "nonbinary pronouns" even if it's blantly obvious it's just a girl anyways? pic spoiled because ass out

it's really weird we got to a point were a piece of language can be deemed personalized/customizable to someone and you have to ~be respectful~. I ain't calling the whale woman "they"

No. 2127543

>>2127440
There's no good explanation for crazy. I used to try and think about it too, but really they're all in this cult mentality so trying to reason with them is like trying to reason with a schizo off meds.

No. 2127870

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This retard has "transsexual" in it's bio. Why do retards think calling themselves "transsexual" instead of "transgender" makes themselves more legit? is it their weird obsession with 60's-80's gay culture? Also they make every single label nebulous like picrel, it's so annoying if you're actually gay you have to deal with these shits all the time. I'm so tired of "who cares, it's not hurting anyone?" it is hurting gays, I can't find community anymore, it's so frustrating and we get gaslit about it. Ugh when will they stop.

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Today there was a TV show about trans kids, with both the views from TRAs and conservatives. It went exactly like you expected: A cesspool.

No. 2127902

>>2127440
I think people only pretend to respect nonbinary people because they're scared of online blowback. A lot of gay people call them deragoties like "pears" to imply they're all women with huge hips and masectomies. So gay men absolutely don't respect them, Trans people talk about how they're "stealing valor", etc. I gauruntee you that you cannot trust anyone's real opinion from Twitter because I have regularly seen cruel sociopaths who do nothing but rip into these people behind the scenes pretend to have complete opposite opinions on main–and I mean users with five to six figure followings

No. 2128058

>>2127440
Which one? 3/5 of the people are fat

No. 2128060

>>2128054
Dont dox yourself nona

No. 2128061

>>2128060
yeah i just realized that was a bad idea

No. 2128067

>>2124164
A lot of redpill/MGTOW types would baselessly call women self-centered because "AWALT" and it probs spreaded to mainstream.

No. 2128069

>>2128061
Shh, delete ur post

No. 2128077

>>2125088
Kek they tried to make a wojak/rage comic into a fucking play

No. 2128082

>>2127870
The art in the pfp screams tif, but everything else gives me moid vibes. Either way they're an annoying heterosexual.

No. 2128112

>>2127870
i was a gendie on tumblr when the whole "transsexual" thing took off so i can answer that one.
it was after troon shit got "wokeified" around the mid-late 2010s, opinions like not needing gender dysphoria to be trans and acceptance of nonbinary shit became more widespread and terms like mtf/ftm, sex reassignment surgery and transsexual became seen as backwards and problematic to the wider trans community. it was also the rise of today's cancel culture, where everyone strives to be the most innocent morally pure human while calling everyone else around them problematic and degenerate.
now, i'm not exactly sure what kickstarted this, but around ~2021/22 the new cool thing in certain tumblr spaces became "queer" history, especially lesbian and trans history within the 1950-90s era. a big thing within these circles was using old gay zines, magazines and anecdotes to redefine various identities because the aformentioned new trans culture was seen as annoying and these people wanted to make their gender and sexuality seem more edgy, which is where we get shit like lesbians fucking gay men, bi women being lesbians, ftms being lesbians, the rise of terms like "girlboy" and the return of the old problematic lingo like ftm/mtf and transsexual. and suprise suprise, this was also the beginning of the whole "sex isn't real" thing taking off, primarily because most (if not all) people in these circles were bi and they genuinely believed sex was changed by hormones (and sometimes surgery, even though the only surgery people got was ftm top surgery).
there is a lot to go over and a lot that i've skipped since i don't want to write an essay, but this is why the "gay" history enthusiasts, self-proclaimed transsexuals and "bi lesbians" (or any other contradictory label) overlap. 2 big figures from this time are that girlofswords scrote and sweatermuppet tif who i'm pretty sure have been posted inthe mtf and ftm threads before, if you've ever seen a collage with shitty poetry or quotes about troon shit it's likely them or one of their calves. also unconfirmed theory of mine is that the rise of this specific type of troonism is due to more and more mtfs joining tumblr and taking over these spaces.
i feel like i've skipped over somthing, but i'm burning to death right now so nevermind, i'm ashamed of how much shit i know about this kek

No. 2128150

I think I'm becoming a bit less of a tranny hater, at least in theory. Trannies who actually aren't evil should just say they're heavily inspired by women, even if they aren't really women, and keep it moving. They're basically fans or kinnies, and until it gets to a certain point of derangement, there's nothing wrong with that. Instead, in reality, we have all this other bullshit, actual science-denying, ridiculous entitlement to women's hard-earned spaces in politics and sports, etc.

No. 2128156

>>2128112
Would love to read an essay written on this nonna, it would be a good way to get some insight into this so please do when you have time! I was briefly a handmaiden and I have a few gendie friends, but I still don't get how and when everything went so fucking wrong because I never had a reason to delve that deep early on when the movement was starting to gain traction and now there is too much shit to wade through to get a proper grasp from the outside.

No. 2128169

>>2128150
I wouldn't even have that much of a problem with troons if they admitted that it was a mental thing and that you can't actually change your sex or try to redefine words. but to do that would require mental stability, and if they had that most of them probably wouldn't want to transition in the first place.

No. 2128202

>>2128156
thank you nonna! i was in the movement for about 7-8? years, so i've got a lot of stories to tell kek. i'm thankful that i only hung out with other women and managed to dodge tims for nearly the entire time, they always gave me a weird gut feeling, even in my worst gendie phase.
if you have any questions though, i'm sure nonnas in this thread will know, or reading through older ftm/mtf threads and the ex-tif one on /2x/ could help clear some things up.

No. 2128208

>>2128150
>I think I'm becoming a bit less of a tranny hater, at least in theory. Trannies who actually aren't evil should just say they're heavily inspired by women, even if they aren't really women, and keep it moving
But they don't say that. And they won't. You're saying you're hating them less simply because you've made a thought-experiment in your head that IF they did this, they'd be acceptable.
It's not much different from handmaidens thinking that troons are ok because "surely they don't mean they're literally a physical woman when they say they're women" but yeah no they do literally mean that. It's not doing you any good to think "well IF they did…" because they don't and you're deluding yourself by making exceptions for them based on nothing!

Most troons aren't HSTS drag queens who are fan of women and feminine fashion, most are straight AGP men who want to get sexual validation from other people, mainly women because they're straight. If they were "just" turned on by themselves they'd never leave the house - instead they go out in wigs and bras and into women's spaces. Real women are still their victims and erotic targets. If women all cut our hair short and wore male clothes they'd do the same, they don't care about women they only care about invading women's spaces for sexual gratification.

No. 2128255

>>2128202
What made you peak? How do you feel about your previous gendie phase today? Are you willing to tell one or two of those stories?

No. 2128263

I think it's genuinely hilarious when the average blue haired pronoun having nonbinary woman ends up in a "sapphic" relationship with some hulking beastly tranny and start broadcasting to everyone how totally lesbo homosexual and dykey the relationship they're in is. It's so funny to me. Atp I know three women like this, and the dude is always some shitty narc or weepy overly attached BPD type. If they want to LARP as a persecuted minority I have no problem laughing at their retarded situation kek.

No. 2128270

>>2128112
Really good summary. I noticed how you get offputting AGPs and people who'd be at home in the earlier woke tumblr trans culture, hopping on this vintage trend and calling themselves 'transsexual surge doll' or 'boydyke' as an attempt to seem more 'real' or more feminine. I'm amused by these vocabulary shifts and play-pretends because you can still tell who is a gay man and who is a het man with a fetish based on how they arrange their phrases, their humor, style of interaction etc.
Anyways, it's ironic how this new wave of troons is similar to early queer theorists like Gayle Rubin (hambeast who LARPs leather gay culture, wrote extensively to defend pedophilia and gay pedos in particular, carved a swastika on her jewish gf because she's oh-so-deviant). It's the same mish-mash of edgy images and attempt to look like a worldly degenerate when they are mousy nerds.

No. 2128394

>>2128156
nta but i've been on tumblr for way too long and i can pinpoint one moment when things went haywire: the release of the fucking 2015 stonewall movie trailer. if i had a time machine i would tell the director to just avoid making that damn thing altogether, because i'm convinced it took the TRA movement to new heights, and i know for a fact this is where a lot of historical rewriting stems from. as the name suggests, the movie was about the stonewall riots, but the cast was "too white" and "too 'monosexual' gay" for tumblr's liking (sidenote: this wasn't so long after the aftermath of the bi discourse, so yes things being gay instead of bi was seen as "less progressive" by some). enter the infamous marsha p johnson and sylvia rivera narrative, two brave and stunning transwimminz who askhually threw the first brick!1!! and from then on the narrative just…stuck. all because of a shitty post whining about a c-tier movie that got burned into tumblr's collective consciousness and turned our hard-fought acquisitions of gay rights into something we actually "owed" to TIMs, something we should be "paying back" by getting them whatever bs they want. the image of transwomen as this uniquely oppressed, most victimized group ever ("especially trans women of color!11!") also really took off there now that they had "proof" of their contributions having been "erased from history" all this time. barf.

No. 2128417

>>2128150
the whole point of being trans is being delusional. it’s exactly like that guy that REALLY wanted to have his leg amputated but with their dicks (or boobs or whatever, and that’s just the people that actually have body dysphoria). you can’t reason with them. even the ones that admit underneath they are male/female, they still believe transitioning and just “looking” like the opposite sex gives them the right to call themselves whatever they want. you don’t have to hate them to be against all this horseshit.

No. 2128459

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local tif confuses gender with sexual orientation kek. she really just threw together some gendie buzzwords and thought she did something

No. 2128606

>>2128459
>clothing should not have gender roles

clothing styles deemed feminine or masculine shouldn't be gendered I agree but clothes are gendered mainly because surprise surprise males and female are physically built differently.

>you can wear crop tops or skirts even and still be straight!


lol they really just be saying anything. TiFs who still wear feminine clothing and act like they're uwu femboys are an interesting breed of stupid. "passing" or not, it's still just a gender conforming woman. But it's the ones who make 0 effort in trying to look like a man with their boobs on display, really girly revealing outfits, but because they have he/him pinned on their shirt they act shocked when normal people see them as women

No. 2128613

I'm actually going insane why so many people don't see what's wrong with having tampon dispensers in boys bathrooms. I see this topic show up sometimes on Twitter and I just don't understand why this shut gets defended???

What gets me is that the people defending it half the time aren't even bringing up hypothetical Tifs in the boys restroom, but because "oh it's good because what if a boy could take one and give it to a female friend or sister who needs one". there should already be one in the girls???? or the comments saying "boys aren't going to explode seeing tampons, they already have them in the bathroom at home they share with their female siblings".

none of those retarded reasons excuses why they should be in male public restrooms

No. 2128621

>>2128613
there being a girl in the boys bathroom sounds dangerous to me? like i just don’t like how it sounds at all there’s a reason why they’re separate

No. 2128622

>>2128263
God I hate that shit. Idk how people become that delusional.

No. 2128624

>>2128459
i don’t want to see a man in a crop top or skirt.

No. 2128628

>>2128459
schitzo babble

No. 2128669

A nice topic on how the press tries to pass troon crimes as if they were committed by actual women and fucking up women crime statistics although siren really needs to her research NASIM AGDAM was a actual biological woman fucking hell

No. 2128674

>>2128621
not really on topic per say, but there was a man in the stall next to me while I was in the bathroom at Walmart. I was the only one in there initially until someone else came in. I heard a man's cough and got confused, then I saw the big shoes facing towards the toilet. I just awkwardly stayed in my stall until he left. low and behold the toilet seat was up as well. Scary thing about this is not knowing if this was a TiM or it was a dude who confusingly went into the women's by mistake . I was paranoid for the rest of the day cause it was a first I've been in that kind of situation.

No. 2128690

>>2128674
Oh god that must've been so scary nona its fucking outrageous that moids in dresses have been given a pass to our private spaces

No. 2128703

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>>2128674
coincidently there is a TiM working at the Walmart I work at as well. I've only talked to him a few times passing by the produce as he's usually around that area stocking stuff. I just assumed he was a quirky alt guy with his long hair and earrings, but some days I'll see him wear typical men's clothes then next day women's, and it's blantly obvious he's got tits when wearing women's shirts. I doubt that was him in there with me that day, but I try to keep my distance from him unless I have to ask him to find something for a customer or whatever. picrel is him after finding out his full name. he's a transbian it seems

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>>2128624
There was a time when hotties rocked the crop. Though now we are plagued with absolute genetic rejects with no self awareness of what looks good on their bodies.

No. 2128790

>>2128255
>What made you peak?
it went gradually for me. i never could fully delude myself about biological sex, i just put mystical ~gender feelings~ above it and pretended it didn't exist because i couldn't handle the cognitive dissonance of being aware.
peaking on tims was fairly easy, it started with the whole tma/tme thing, even with the fact i was deep into gendie stuff my immediate reaction was "they will never know what afabs go through!!!", as i mentioned i felt creeped out by them and always avoided them. before that i did kind of put them in the category of "women" since i felt like they were as distant from me as "normal" women (straight, gender conforming, not mentally ill, basically the exact opposite of what i am). with that said, the idea of them being similar to actual women shattered the second i went deeper than surface level twaw posts kek. the transmisogyny discourse fully destroyed that idea though.
it's a different story with tifs. i guess i peaked when i myself desisted? i don't even know if i fully saw tifs as men either, since to me they registered more as a safe group of other non-women (read: women as desperate to escape misogyny as i was) than actual males. i should probably add that they're not the normie heterosexual women with dyed hair and they/them pronouns i see talked about here often, they're all nerdy outcasts who only date other women/tifs and have (usually sexual) childhood traumas and moderate to severe mental illness (likely due to the fact that i'm not from a western troon friendly country). this peaking took longer since i had to face my own issues to be able to recognize that other tifs are just women with internalized misogyny too.

>How do you feel about your previous gendie phase today?

mixed. on one hand i'm very grateful since it helped me realize that i can, in fact, be gnc and be attracted to women. if i hadn't trooned out i would probably be forcing myself into being gender conforming and dating men or i would have done a 180 and become tradcath and become a nun just to avoid the previous fate.
on the other hand, trooning out is not much different psychologically than alcoholism or drug addiction. it's still a way to run from your current problems, only to realize when you're sober that you've created even more problems for yourself. sure, it did help slightly, and i never went on hormones or had surgery so no harm done there, but i could have just turned to other women instead of pushing them away and declaring myself as different. i wish i did live in a better society and was surrounded by people who would support me, but i was shit out of luck on both fronts and i didn't know where else to go at that point. plus, i'm pretty sure binding damaged my rib cartilage, worsened my ability to breathe and likely even caused more cysts/fibroadenomas to grow in my chest, almost none of which were present beforehand.

>Are you willing to tell one or two of those stories?

i wish i had more irl or bizzare stories to share, but thankfully my troon encounters were limited to edgy but harmless tifs and the occasional discord tim weirdo. this isn't really a story, but i'd like to bring it up anyways since it's very worrying to me. i went down the gender rabbit hole at age 12 or so (mostly because i was freaking out over having a crush on a girl and wanting to "fix" myself), but didn't fully commit to it until i was already in high school. i saw similar stories from other tifs, with a few exceptions where they already identified as nonbinary in middle school (never ftm though). but recently, i've noticed hoards of young girls identifying as trans and even talking about shit like puberty blockers and what surgeries they want to get once they turn 18, and it's just making my stomach drop. granted, these are mostly girls from western countries that shill this shit like crazy, but even in my tiny right wing shithole there's been a sharp uptick in minors, especially young girls, going to the one of the only gender clinics in the country. they even recently put up billboards about trans rights, which is so fucking retarded seeing as there have been next to 0 violent attacks on troons, meanwhile nearly every year around june gay people (usually gay men) get beaten in the streets and the femicide rate due to dv has gone up as well. girls are being forced to choose between trooning, pandering to pedophilic scrotes or becoming religious fanatics, i can't predict how this will affect them as adults, it's so fucking bleak. i wish i could do something to help, at least with the troon shit, but voting does nothing as all the anti-trans parties are also anti-woman and anti-lgb, and all the pro-woman and pro-lgb parties are also pro-trans. it just kinda feels like we're stuck watching this new gen of women grow up on the most misogynistic shit ever that'll scar them for the rest of their lives, and we're unable to do much, if anything, about it.

>>2128669
i adore her channel, but it feels like her content has not been researched as well and has been too rushed for the past while. it sucks seeing as she's got some really good takes and in her older videos is well spoken and makes impactful points. still love her though.

No. 2129069

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Retards

No. 2129078

>>2129069
I can't find it, but you know that one part in Baby Reindeer where Martha is like "do you ever wish you could unzip people's skin and live inside them?" That's TIFs. That's what they sound like kek

No. 2129187

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>>2128669
how dare they misgender my queen

No. 2130142

>>2128150
I feel the opposite. I used to not hate them or just be one of those people who's like "let them live" but then tons of people in my online circles started trooning out. This opened my eyes that it's a social contagion because I don't even know that many people, yet I know at least 10 trannies, which is really disproportionate for how rare they are supposed to be. They always turned out to be mentally ill and incredibly shitty people to interact with and they're all cringy and coombrained, it makes me want to vomit looking at their retarded woman-face larp. I've also grown to dislike them the more I spent time with them because I used to think the ones that aren't evil were more common but instead they're almost all AGPs and HSTS that are just "inspired" by women or more "harmless" are much rarer, and even then I'd still see those types hate on women and say they're better than actual women. I'm tired of them spreading shitty sexist stereotypes further and making me uncomfortable almost everywhere I try to interact and how they make me hate other people by extension, like I used to respect people but now it's hard when almost all of them unironically support trans shit. I hate how they made me realize how much the world hates women in general and how I feel silenced in my daily life. I still don't want them dead or anything like they claim, but they sure do want me dead for being tired of this shit, so I find it hard to feel any sympathy for them at this point, even the ones that aren't AGP. Every time I see trannies I know post pictures and shit up online spaces I used to like my dislike for them grows

No. 2130187

>>2128790
Just wanted to say I love hearing people's peaking stories. Especially if they're detrans or were super deep into the ideology. I wasn't a full on TRA but I was casually reblogging ALL the pro-trans stuff on tumblr like a good little ally, even if some of it seemed "off". I remember smugly telling an adult male friend how "trans women are totally REAL women too" and feeling like I was oh so smart and progressive for knowing that when he, an adult, didn't know it. Now I'm so embarrassed I ever thought or said that kek

No. 2130191

>>2130142
> I don't know that many people but I know at least 10 trannies
KEK incredible phrasing

No. 2130244

>>2130142
I feel this way too. Also, I didn’t even hate men until I got exposed to TiMs. They take regular misogyny to the most extreme and it’s made me despise all moids.

No. 2131762

This is trivial but i hate coming across mentions of women in male-dominated fields or artistic scenes, getting excited and checking them out because it's a pleasant surprise, only to find out it's yet another balding crumbling AGP. It's such a bummer. I file away present-day examples in 'consequences of internet pornography' but it gets to me if it's pre-internet. Like if the troon is referred to as a visionary [ ] from the 80s or something, it makes me thoughtful about how there always were strange men into technical shit who would wear wigs and name themselves 'Ludmilla Dollette Alice 3000'. Plus it muddies discussions about male-dominated spheres, whenever someone brings up women and their issues around recognition there's always a handmaiden/man who goes 'b-but [flaming homosexual] and [greasy male autist] are brave transfem [occupation]!!'. How tiresome

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I don't know who this is (I stole it from that athlete thread) but the shirt both pisses me off and makes me laugh. It's just so noncommittal. "Is gender a highly restricting set of boxes that only does harm?" "Yeah!" "Do we want to get rid of it?" "Uh, well, uhm…"

No. 2132376

>>2131762
same. reminds me of PBS running that doc on christine jorgensen and kept saying shit like how he was breaking gender barriers with the shit he did. reading his story shows you that trannies haven’t been as “oppressed” as they want you to believe though. dude got famous just for being a tranny

No. 2132451

>>2130191
It does sound funny now that you mention it lol. It's probably because despite being introverted and not knowing many people I frequented mostly male dominated spaces because of my hobbies and in every single one there's least 2 or 3 men inevitably trooning out, besides just ones that are already troons.
>>2130244
Me too. I didn't realize how much men hate women until I was confronted with troon shit since it exposed me to radical feminism stuff when I got called a "TERF" and wanted to know what that means. I always assume every man that supports this stuff is a misogynist now too which contributes to my disillusion with them. And when I do find a guy that doesn't, they tend to be right wing and hate women in a different way, so it just sucks overall.

No. 2132690

>>2132451
>I didn't realize how much men hate women until I was confronted with troon shit
sorry for blog but the ONLY friendship I've ever ended was because of a troon supporter and I had that exact realization experience: he was so full of hate for women.

He had only mildly been annoying me with "JKR bad terf", "my trans friend is a real woman", "I'm a feminist" but the trans topic came up and things he said sounded so odd, I asked him to clarify to make sure… and it just got worse and worse. I realized he was 1000% willing to sacrifice real women if it means troons get what they want. He was defending literal rapists, and them being put in women's jails "females rape too so a transwoman isn't any more dangerous than a rapist woman in prison, and SHE would be at too much risk of abuse in male prison so it's the safest option for everyone involved". Like the fuck, "safest for everyone" means "sacrificing all women's safety for one rapist man, and letting him rape them" and when I pressed him on it he just dug his grave deeper and I snapped and blocked and deleted him everywhere. I remember the sinking feeling of realizing that while he even called himself a feminist, he literally had no compassion for women whatsoever. I know he knows what a man and a woman is, they all do.

No. 2132813

>>2130142
>>2132451
I feel you on the hobbies part. I like speedrunning a lot and you can imagine how fast your feelings sour once every "this amazing woman who broke a record!" is a dude with the greasiest hair you've seen in your life.

No. 2132900

>>2132690
I also had a similar experience with male friends, they'd say they're lefty feminists that respect women then react in the same way as you described when it comes to the troon topic which made me lose respect for them, since I realized they don't give a shit about me compared to how much they care about troons aka other men. It was really eye opening once I realized this but also left me feeling empty and just sad since I thought they were my friends and was naive enough to believe they didn't hate women.

Also it's even worse when types like that eventually troon out (something I've witnessed many times, I call it the "feminist" man to troon pipeline) and they still call themselves feminists and try to take our struggles for themselves and say it's worse for them as trans women, while simultaneously embodying every single misogynistic stereotype about what men think women are and never caring about us. There's so much cognitive dissonance and contradictions in everything they do that it's baffling to me how they don't realize it. I see troons doing the most sexist stereotypical shit possible like saying unironically that they're a dainty weak emotional little girl now after taking estrogen and somehow I'm supposed to think these guys are epic women allies (and they themselves think they are, somehow).
>>2132813
Yeah it sucks. I was added to a female group and I was excited only for it to be mostly troons. I feel like being a woman who is gnc (be it in hobbies, looks, whatever) is already isolating enough as it is and this just makes it even worse, when you constantly see troons skinwalking you and pretending they're the same when they're just…Men

No. 2132922

>>2132451
> there's least 2 or 3 men inevitably trooning out, besides just ones that are already troons.
I hope they all go prison gay for each other and turn 'male spaces' into faggot centrals.

No. 2132966

>>2132900
>I call it the "feminist" man to troon pipeline
This is absolutely a thing, they become 'feminists' because it makes them feel like they're part of the club. These AGPs have orbited feminist orgs since the 70s at least (see Michfest troons). I honestly prefer 4tran edgy anti-feminist greaseballs in a way, at least they don't have the (very male) impulse to control what's not for them to try and make it compatible with AGP
>>2132376
>shows you that trannies haven’t been as “oppressed”
Right. So many of these historical examples of 'brave' troons are just a bunch of well-off men who had enough money to freely indulge their fetish without consequences

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>>2129187
She was hilarious, this was my favorite one. I love how the cow butt is drawn, kek.

>What do you eat? When you want to eat but you dont eat

>You want cow butt? Or chicken breast?ooooooh what do you want

No. 2133210

I think the thing that really peaked me wasn’t actually the trans part of it, but how they treat women who aren’t the perfect ally. I was basically taught that every terf is an angry, vindictive bitch who will snap at you for nothing, and try to take everyone’s right away. But after actually talking with a few GC women personally, I learn that most of them act that like that not because they’re vindictive bitches, but because they want to protect themselves, as well as other women and girls. 1 in 5 women globally are rape victims, the abuser is almost always a man. It’s really no surprise that some women are extremely aggressive to men invading our spaces. After talking, I wouldn’t even say aggressive is the right word, they’re defensive. They want to feel safe, and TIMS see our safety overriding their comfort, and they attack us. And it doesn’t matter if you’re on their side either. I’ve seen hardcore TRA women get absolutely ripped to shreds because they did something to upset the troons. They are not on our side, they only keep regular women around because they fuel their girl larp, and if you dare to question anything, you’re transphobic. Sorry for this rant, I’m a little drunk

No. 2133413

>>2129069
Honestly sad that these women can't understand that what they're experiencing is just… lust. You want to fuck the guy. It's ok.

No. 2133415

>>2128770
>>2128624
Normalize crop-tops, but only for hot moids.

No. 2133445

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It's like they're almost getting there and then they just decide to stop thinking completely for their own comfort.

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No. 2133468

>>2124259
i was watching a youtube video talking about katy perry's new music video and the youtuber randomly brought up JK Rowling/terfs just to virtue signal that if you're not pro-tranny you're not a 'real' feminist. what does that have to do with katy perry being a flop…

No. 2133680

>>2133446
>"we've lost too many enbies to employment"
KEK who would have thought that just entering the real world could erase your innate and immutable gender identity

No. 2134002

>>2132966
They'll basically adopt all the libshit feminism like sex work is empowering type trash and shitting on "TERFS" and that'll be all their "feminism" amounts to. I also believe men like this who start off as "feminists" before trooning out basically are like the NLOGs of men and it's part of why they end up transitioning. They'll say they hate men constantly and this will lead to them disassociating from their own gender and believing they're "not like the other guys" aka most be a troon. The irony being that they ARE still exactly like every other guy, if not even worse and more misogynistic for trooning out.
>>2132922
I have seen a couple of them do this and just fuck their fellow troons despite being into women before, which is as funny as it is disturbing especially when they start bragging about how much sex they're having and saying they're "lesbians".
>>2133446
They always make this "employment" meme with they/thems and somehow fail to realize maybe, just maybe, if your super duper important identity goes away with getting a job, then it's not really as real or important as it seems. This should be obvious, but they seem to believe it's solely due to opression of the real world or something,but do gay people stop being gay when they get a job and are around homophobes? No. They might hide it but they won't suddenly just…Not be gay overall. Same thing with being black, a woman, or any other actually oppressed group. So why would enbies stop being they/thems? Well, because their entire identity hinges solely on fickle things like everyone else's validation, so it's no identity of their own at all and disappears once they don't receive that. Yet this won't click in their head that if you can opt out from your totally real identity and it hinges solely on others validating it, that MAYBE it's just bullshit they made up that isn't compatible with reality, especially if literally every other form of real opression isn't something you can just stop being.

No. 2134027

>>2132900
It kinda scares me how quickly these cookie-cutter liberal "feminist" men go from just average unassuming people to full-blown fascist at the drop of a hat and act like they're the fucking heroes of the downtrodden for believing the government should have to right to lock up anyone who dares to offend the sensibilities of others. It's actually scary how they believe that a basic human right like freedom of speech and privacy should be taken away just to preserve the feelings of men in dresses. They act like they're heroes of all women and minorities until an actual woman or minority stands up to them and calls them what they are, a fucking fascist lunatic, and then suddenly the pretense of being some hero of justice and savior of the oppressed goes out the window. They're just fragile straight upper middle class moids who treat other human beings like accessories to live out their daring revolutionary fantasies. Gender ideology politics is the easiest way to tell when you're dealing with one of these men.

No. 2134049

>>2134002
>their entire identity hinges solely on fickle things like everyone else's validation, so it's no identity of their own at all and disappears once they don't receive that. Yet this won't click in their head that if you can opt out from your totally real identity and it hinges solely on others validating it, that MAYBE it's just bullshit they made up that isn't compatible with reality, especially if literally every other form of real opression isn't something you can just stop being.
well put nona i completely agree 100% with what you said. what a joke, these people acting like being employed the real problem behind it kek. you can say a lot of things about what employment does to a person but that's just unreal, delusional, insane. losing enbies to employment KEK

No. 2134068

>>2134027
>They act like they're heroes of all women and minorities until an actual woman or minority stands up to them and calls them what they are, a fucking fascist lunatic, and then suddenly the pretense of being some hero of justice and savior of the oppressed goes out the window.

So true, and they'll call you the fascist instead kek. They claim to be all for women and minorities and hearing our voices, all while trying to silence us if it goes against their narrative in any way. They have endless sympathy for other men (including men in dresses) and none for women, but still want to claim the woman ally points despite prioritizing other men at our expense. They unironically consider trans women (men) more oppressed than women too so in their head it's justified to give more of a shit about them than actual women

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lmao

No. 2134295

>>2133445
>tfw going outside to interact with reality makes you come to terms with reality
>tfw making friends and having others to worry about makes you stop focusing too much on yourself
Wow! Who would have thought!

No. 2134301

>>2134292
I so wish I was shameless enough to do this grift kek just put on a bad wig and bad eyeliner and pretend to be a poor but convincing transwoman who needs to cut off his dick and survive his abusive household. Easy money

No. 2134320

>>2134292
I’m autistic and faceblind not racist but aren’t several of these the same person? At least two of these photos look like that troon cast as Kacy in Inventing Anna

No. 2134328

>>2134320
It's the same guy

No. 2134352

>>2134292
Don't hate the player, hate the game.

No. 2134357

>>2134352
I will hate on a fugly faggot scrote no matter what he does.

No. 2134374

>>2134352
I hate the game but I hate the players too because I'm bitter that my moral fiber isn't weak enough to cut my hair short and start a gofundme "Help Anon Transition into Man in NYC with penthouse apartment total goal: 3 million." The fake scam gofundmes always make me so irritated because I feel like those people should be getting scammed by me not some stupid troon that's gonna waste the money on hormones or meth or whatever they buy.

No. 2134499

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What the fuck does this even means?

No. 2134505

>>2134499
ok so if I try to translate this from gendie I think this person means: "These characters are putting on a performance, just like me! So relatable!" not sure though

No. 2134508

>>2134499
Basically, barbie and he-man are two very traditional archetypes ofr femininity and the other masculinity. It's not really a new analysis to that their characters are ultimately a performance

No. 2134549

If I put together a GoFundMe for a fictional TIM and then donate everything to a women’s shelter, prob the one JKR put together or something similar, would anons spread it to all of their gendies and tras? I’m sure we all have several.

I’m not sure if I would do it and I would understand anons would be sus about it. It just would make me kek so hard to use troons for the benefit of women.

No. 2134556

>>2134549
Just wait for December to scam Transanta like the rest of us.

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>>2134556
Kek, I wonder how many scammers they get since they make it so easy.

No. 2134583

>>2134574
why is it red. looks like a pooner meme

No. 2134604

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These tiktok lesbians are fucking disgusting. Look at the way the bitch stitching OP talks about wanting tranny dick, the way she forces it on OP too. I'm so tired of these disgusting bisexual tranny lovers changing the entire meaning of homosexuality to make themselves and fat ugly trannies feel comfortable taking dick. I'm also tired of these nasty handmaidens calling themselves "dykes" while sucking dick, coming from someone who has had that word thrown at them in vitriolic ways it's disgusting to see them call themselves that. Fuck these handmaidens, this is why I hate fakebians so much, especially the celebrity ones because they have a platform to spread lies about female homosexuality. They harass lesbians for not liking penis, they literally dogpile us. I saw this one video of women protesting against trannies or some shit during pride and a bunch of trannies were screaming "DYKE DYKE DYKE" and shit. It's so nasty. We need to start fighting back, I already am fighting back but so many lesbians are too scared. Fuck these handmaidens and their ugly tranny boyfriends, literally destroying our subcultures and rewriting our history to make themselves be on top. Ugh, always send hate to these bitches.

No. 2134608

>>2134574
Ewwww spoiler that nasty. But probably like half scammers half troons I'd say, maybe 60:40. I scammed there the past year and I got a free iPad, it's really easy but you have to make the account around Sept or Oct and make it seem "real" to get picked.

No. 2134628

>>2134604
They’re the ones upset and living in fantasy land. I don’t give a shit what they say and they can have fun continuing to suck dick and be delusional. Meanwhile my wife and other women like us will continue about our regularly scheduled normal lesbian lives.

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I thought she was going to give fashion advice or something until I read further

No. 2134673

>>2133446
Interesting how they would never make fun of male nonbinaries. You never hear “theymab”

No. 2134675

>>2134673
Gendered insults are almost always directed at females, and even male insults are often derived from female insults. Notice how the male equivalent to whore isn't a separate insult, but "man whore". "Son of a bitch" still insults a woman alongside a man.

No. 2134680

>>2134675
Yeah that’s like feminism 101 lol

No. 2134685

>>2134673
Funny, a year or two when I was on tumblr more frequently I remember a surge in popular KWEERio circles reblogging and posting nonstop about how making fun of cringe theymabs isn't the sick own you think it is blah blah blah, because zomg it hurts the gnc males!!! But you could totally make fun of the cringey feminine theyfabs, they're stupid cis-lite (WHITE!!! THEY'RE WHITE SO WE'RE NOT MISOGYNISTIC!!!!) bitches who are in no danger of the down with cis bus attacking them like fugly hulking males in skinny skirts are!!!!
It's literally a "woke" version of men's right activism. Theyfabs are the butt of the joke and everyone ignores what trans men say because they're also women kek. The hatred for feminism since the very beginning of the modern TRA era cannot be overlooked.

No. 2134692

>>2134673
theymabs don't need to be laughed at, they need to be put in jail for their sex crimes

No. 2134699

So I was reading into these third genders and “totally trans POCs” that existed before evil whites came to colonize and then brutalized them into the gender binary. But it’s not very many cultures and the ones that do have it usually are very patriarchal and have strict gender roles. The third gender is exclusive for gay men and/or boys. Women never have a special caste of their own.

Kinda shocked that western civilization didn’t already come prebaked with troon shit since the start based on what other patriarchal and highly sex segregated cultures. I wonder why?

No. 2134702

>>2134699
>I wonder why?
It would have if Semitic religions never spread to Europe during Antiquity. Christianity is a religion foreign to the Western world, and that fucks with the unconscious psyche. If the variant of PIE religion that existed in Europe never died out and Christianity remained segregated to the Near East, we too would have had a "third gender."

No. 2134703

>>2134699
>I wonder why?
My guess is Christianity but I hope some smarter anon can give a more interesting answer so that I might read and learn something new.

No. 2134709

>>2134702
Abrahamic religions would fall into the patriarchal/strict sex roles cultures, so I don’t understand why they would suddenly cancel out another patriarchal cultures tendency for third genders and the like. Unless there is some specific anti-troon aspect of Abrahamic religions that I’m missing.

No. 2134731

>>2134709
Sorry but I don't get what you mean, could you say it in another way?

No. 2134751

>>2134731
No worries.

Semitic religions are patriarchal. I'm assuming that PIE religions are also patriarchal based on >>2134702 Both of these cultural groups, should in theory, have third genders. What is so special about Christianity that it omits the trend of third genders/troons/etc.

No. 2134753

>>2134751
samefag, I hope that makes more sense. Thanks for wanting to discuss it.

No. 2134776

>>2134556
I just want to know, can I get bitcoins from that retard so I can change them for real money? I don't really want some trannies to know my real name or actual ubication and such.

No. 2134845

>>2134751
Okay, thanks for re-wording. To start I mentioned PIE-derived religion because when you mentioned third-gender societies my mind went to hijras in the Hindu world. Hinduism is derived from the same religion that the religions of Ancient Greece and Rome derived from. The original PIE religion features a sexually liberal attitude, and homosexuality was a natural part of life and the religion. If we are saying that the Western World is based on the Ancient Roman and Greek cultures, then there was already some troon shit baked into Western culture. Look at all the myths featuring sex-changes in Ancient Greece & Rome, they even had a Hermaphrodite God. Since the Hindu world features a third-gender ordained by their PIE-derived religion, it would make sense that if the original PIE-religion of the West survived into modernity, then we too would have a concept comparable to the hijras.

Semitic religions are sexually conservative, and consider homosexuality sinful. They don't have third-genders because Semitic religions are very focused on limiting a person's sexuality and sexual expression, it was never celebrated like in Roman or Greek culture, especially in regards to male homosexuality. In cultures where third-gender is present, it's usually only for flamboyant homosexual males as you pointed out. Since Semitic religions are against homosexual expression, there could be no third-gender.

Christianity is interesting because it's a Semitic religion that developed so intensely among non-Semitic peoples and outside its original cultural sphere, it's why Christianity can seem so binding and suffocating to Europeans or Americans, because it goes against the collective unconscious even though it makes up so much of their cultural outlook.

No. 2134876

>>2134608
did you act as a TIM, TIF, or genderspecial? i want to know which has the higher likelihood of getting picked kek

No. 2134900

>>2134776
No but you can ask for expensive things and just resell it. You just need a PO box it's really easy.
>>2134876
My character is a paraplegic TIM with schizophrenia and an abusive family. You just have to make the character a victim in several ways and it should work fine.

No. 2134913

>>2134604
She looks about as dumpy as I'd expect a tranmaiden fakebian with no standards to be.

No. 2134968

>>2127216
late but I knew someone who genuinely identified as Maverique. She was living with her two boyfriends and was pretending the best she could she was a true man even though she was like 5"2' and cooked and cleaned up for everybody and sucked two dicks for free.
Funniest is we fell out (before I was a raging terf) because I was saying MLP community is full of pedos and she threw a tantrum. Lmao. What a cunt.

No. 2134986

>>2134845

If they had a sexual liberal attitude about faggotry then why did they emasculate their partners into faux women? It seems like all of these cultures give these subsection of males some variations of these features; strictly bottoming, must be young(more androgynous, not bearded or “manly”),limited to women’s work, and other misogynist projections of male ideas of womanhood. So there seems to be some limit on sexuality becuase why else would they bother? Is this just an effect of the patriarchy on the moid psyche? They can’t truly be gay so they must turn their object of lust into a lesser, woman, becuase they must always be more; a man? Some of these cultures then justify it as somehow “this is actually better becuase these wakashu, eromenos, etc are men (de facto better than women), just not as manly as me!”

From this pov, I wouldn’t say that Christianity was super different from other patriarchies. The tenet of: “Naw, only the reaaaaallll women are allowed for sex; Males must always moid.” Would be within the scope of this repression. Not to imply that the Semitic religions are closely related to the PIE religions; just that this might be a meme of patriarchy as a system. What’s strange is that the semitic religions took it to the extreme. Why? And why was this extreme form so prolific that it gobbled up other patriarchies?

There are strange exceptions like some Muslim nations allow a moid to transition so that they aren’t “technically” gay. Is this like a throwback to some pre-Abrahamic religious culture influence? I haven’t really study any of those arabian peninsula cultures tbh.

No. 2134999

>>2134986
> Why? And why was this extreme form so prolific that it gobbled up other patriarchies?

Tinfoil: I think that the more natural state of patriarchies are PIE like (like you mentioned), with Christianity choke holding male libido into genocides, war and prolification. This strange form of patriarchy requires a strong and overt presence in every aspect of life. Once secularity hit widely we see people revert to the easier to maintain form of patriarchy and thus we see the rise of troons in the cultural zeitgeist. Kek

No. 2135000

>>2134900
>>2134876
I havent tried it myself but Ive heard that tim works better

No. 2135021

>>2134845
NTAYRT
>Semitic religions are sexually conservative, and consider homosexuality sinful.
You're right, Semitic religions are much less tolerant of homosexuality, but so-called third genders are definitely a thing in cultures that follow Semitic religions, from Asia to West Africa. It could be a holdover from the past, who knows. Muslim societies had/have pederasty lite, aswell as less pedophilic concepts of 'flamboyant gay man that we let be feminine and hang around women'. All of these things coexist with intense homophobia, since it's always about making an exception to the rule ('femininity in men is abhorrent except for our local village shaman, he's cool' , 'it's not gay if i do it to a younger man' etc.).
>If they had a sexual liberal attitude about faggotry then why did they emasculate their partners into faux women?
Interesting point. I think that male homosexuality was, historically, incredibly hierarchical. The first accounts of male homosexuality that we have appear in societies where slavery and women's subjugation were already well established (Greece, India, etc). There are traces(?) of male homosexuality in hunter-gatherer societies but it seems much less prevalent and less organized. I still wonder if it's because it's harder to find records of homosexuality pre-civ or if the emergence of caste societies and strata is related to the emergence of formalized male homosexuality. I mean even today, gay male sexuality is still a lot like this. They lost the direct reference to women but they all worship hyper-manly men, and i'm sure you see what i mean when i say they're enamored with hierarchy in sexuality. Chasers and bisexual men are an even better example, with their fascination for neoteny and femininity in men (women's inferior status and childern's status are inextricably tied). There's a reason why gay/bi men are over-represented in the alt-right (which is pretty much a club for men to indulge in their Authoritarian Daddy fantasies). I got sidetracked there kek, and sorry for editing twice, i had to fact-check

No. 2135194

>>2134699
Just as a caveat, there have been at least 2 cultures that have had 3rd gender roles for women: bacha posh In Afghanistan and sworn virgins in Albania. “Bacha posh” literally translates to “dressed as a boy” and basically it means that families who don’t have any sons will dress their oldest daughter up as a boy and treat her as a boy (sending her to school and making her get a job) until puberty, when her femaleness can no longer be denied. Sworn virgins in Albania were life path women could choose - basically if a girl didn’t want to get married and be a mother she could choose to dress like a man and live independently with a job and her own house, but she had to remain alone. Sworn virgins have been dying out for the last 50 years now that feminism has given regular Albanian women more rights.

In both countries, 3rd gender roles for women emerged because the countries were too sexist to believe in women getting an education/working/living independently for their own sake. It’s the same with cultures that have 3rd gender roles for men - basically every 3rd gender role is just “flaming faggot” because all of these cultures are so sexist that they consider men who want to wear makeup and take it up the ass to be “not real men”, and creating a 3rd gender gives other men a loophole to say it’s not gay to fuck them.

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Not milky, I just checked the follows of someone who has followed me and found this post funny, spicy they/thems really do so many mental hops to justify everything they enjoy is queer
https://rein-hearts.dreamwidth.org/4240.html

No. 2135225

>>2135194
How familiar are you with these cultures? Are the third genders for women considered to be equivalent to actual men? Or does the hierarchy of these cultures with both kinds of third genders pan out to something like this?
> 1. Males
> 2. Male Third Genders
> 3. Female Third Genders
> 4. Females

No. 2135240

>>2135204
>how society seems to hate it
kek hardly anyone gives a shit about tattoos anymore. they're incredibly commonplace and only old people and ultraconservatives bat an eye at them. these people are so out of touch with the world beyond the internet and eager to be persecuted that they larp like they're living decades in the past.

No. 2135252

>>2135204
> Self adornment and self expression, universal human activities, somehow a special tenet of my ideology.

kek, this sort of logic reminds me religious behavior.
"Family is Christian. Not to say that anyone with a family is Christian, but rather the act of having a family, the practice of family – all of that in general is hella Christian. From how society seems to hate it, how you work with the lord to bring another life into this world with a loving wife….."

No. 2135317

>>2135225
I’ve never been to Afghanistan or Albania or talked with someone who’s experienced either of these gender roles firsthand, I’ve just watched some documentaries and read books that discuss these subjects, such as vidrel. I was initially introduced to the concept of third genders from anthropology classes in college (I’m old enough that I graduated college before today’s troon insanity took over academia) and it helped me connect the dots to see how the current wave of transgenderism among westerners is an expression of a culturally-bound mental illness.

No. 2135320

>>2135204
Personality leeches like this are so fucking annoying kek. They'll do anything to be different except have an original thought.

No. 2135347

>>2130244
Meeting AGPs made me realize how sick western men and their misogyny could be. I thought that misogyny was exclusive to backward nations, but I was sorely mistaken. Canada is such a fucking cesspit thanks to them and their enablers

No. 2136355

She’s so close. I’ve never seen someone be so close to getting it yet cape for tims.

No. 2136367

>>2135317
>culturally-bound mental illness.
interesting. elaborate?

No. 2136371

>>2136355
One step closer. If the enby women and regular women TRAs start spouting it, and maybe it'll take a while, but just maybe they'll start spouting actual gender critical beliefs and a new cool social hipster fad will take the troons' place, that being an anti troon sentiment.

No. 2136431

Sorry if this is the wrong thread, but I figured it would fit here.
Earlier this summer, I went to visit my best friend who lives in a different state. While I was there, we hung out with some of her friends, one of whom had begun "dating" this ugly TIM. I immediately disliked and distrusted him, even though I wanted to put on a polite front so as not to ruin my time there. I think he could tell that I disliked him, or that I was transphobic, bc he was pretty much hostile and dismissive to only me the whole time. Despite this he didn't really do or say anything super incriminating besides a couple unexpected sexual comments, mostly about himself. Anyway, my friend recently hung out with him and the friend he's dating. She called me about it the next day, telling me that he took mdma and immediately turned into almost a caricature of a sex pest. She told me she's pretty sure that he only hung out with the both of them to fulfill some weird "fantasy" of his, because he kept asking her and her friend to "make out" as well as continually make extremely weird sexual comments. Every time my friend tried to leave or express discomfort, he would apparently "moan and whine and get sad" until she came back and talked to him more. He kept asking if my friend found him cute or attractive, kept talking about random sexual things he did, said he wanted to "suck on the strap-on", and coerced my friend into kissing his neck and letting him feel her up, along with a lot of other stuff that I feel gross about typing out even though she gave me permission to share here. I thankfully haven't met many TIMs in my life, and a part of me was naively assuming that they can't ALL be disgusting perverts, but I keep getting proven wrong. I've had other friends try and tell me to "keep an open mind" and "not go full TERF" because overgeneralizing is bad and all, but this just blackpilled me even further. I hate how common it is nowadays for people, especially in the creative and social circles I usually hang out with, to be unquestioningly okay with letting TIMs dominate everything they do, say and think. I wish women my age would just wake up and see these people for who they really are, and I hate that I can't express discomfort with being forced in proximity with them even when they show themselves for who they really are like this nasty one.

No. 2136454

>>2136431
this is actually sad. i wonder if women will ever collectively wake up to this bs, but i feel like some of them will never stop pandering to moids, even 'female identifying' ones who want to take over our spaces

No. 2136470

>>2135317
>The current wave of transgenderism among westerners is an expression of a culturally-bound mental illness.
Exactly. The whole cause of the problem of transgenderism is the denial of the effects patriarchy, capital, and gender ideology has on our societies. It's this very elaborate and try-hard denial that caused transsexualism to become what it is today, and in fact is propagates further the issues that caused it to form to begin with. It's insidious. The whole society has to be psychoanalyzed to understand & solve the issue, and not many people are willing to put in the work required to do that.

>>2135225
NTAYRT but all third gender systems rely on the patriarchal substrate of their respective cultures. In the case of male third genders, it's because of the learned disgust scrotes feel towards femininity and their desire to segregate men that act in feminine ways. In the female third gender cases, it's because of the limits imposed on women from the misogynistic cultural background and the desire to liberate oneself from them. Both are sociological reactions to the chains of cultural patriarchy and latent societal misogyny.

>>2134986
I'm the AYRT. Sorry if my answer is disjointed, I'm trying to inject the necessary background information to understand.
>What’s strange is that the semitic religions took it to the extreme. Why? And why was this extreme form so prolific that it gobbled up other patriarchies?
If we trace back Semitic religions, and by this I mean Abrahamic religions, it started with Judaism. So, in the time when Judaism was first forming, it happened to take root in the hinterlands first as a cult-like offshoot of the main religion of the region. In the cities, along the coast, the Semitic peoples there also displayed sexually liberal attitudes towards homosexuality and women were freer. So, the Jewish laws against it were made in direct attack of the urban-dweller mentality. It was a form of early separation from the mainstream religious and cultural climate of the region at the time. For the same reason, the Jewish bible spends a lot of time relegating the "proper" role of a woman, common in the countryside but seen as backwards in the coastal cities. You have to remember that when Judaism was first starting, it was a fringe cult (kind of like extreme-Baptists today in the Southern USA), so a lot of it's rules and codes of conduct were made in direct response to the general attitudes at the time that it sought to reject (especially from a populist anti-Urban perspective). These rules and regulations continued and were refined by the advents of Christianity and Islam. In this same fashion, Christianity became popular from a fringe-cult movement by rejecting many of the cultural tenets popular in the Roman Empire, and later by filing the power-vacuum left by the disintegration of the Empire. Like, for example, since sexual abuse of slaves was common in the Roman Empire, if a new religion came around that said "Oh, a man should only have sex with his wife, not slaves" that would solve the sexual abuse problem in a way. All religions are based on rejections of some cultural or societal element prominent at the time of their creation.

>If they had a sexual liberal attitude about faggotry then why did they emasculate their partners into faux women? It seems like all of these cultures give these subsection of males some variations of these features; strictly bottoming, must be young(more androgynous, not bearded or “manly”),limited to women’s work, and other misogynist projections of male ideas of womanhood.

I'd actually reject this. In the Ancient world, it wasn't that men were cast into women because of their sexual acts, it was just that men were much freer to admit to their sexual proclivities. Sexuality didn't have the same restraints then as it does now. It was spoken about very openly, such that in Ancient Rome there are many references to how one must ask the host before they have sex with their slaves, or otherwise it'd be rude.

It wasn't that "men desired women, so if they desired another man he must be like a women," it was just that in that cultural landscape, the desire for young men was just out in the open and expected. It's no secret that young men are attractive, or at least much more attractive than older men. They didn't have "gay or straight" because in that time, sex didn't have that religious component as it does now. It was expected that a scrote would want to fuck anything that moved, the Ancients didn't feel the need to deny this truth. In the case of Ancient Roman or Greek paederasty, it was expected that the younger man would be the passive partner to an older man, but this wasn't always the case (there are Roman sources that joke about older men being passive for younger men and how silly they look). The passive partners weren't relegated to women's work either, mostly they did normal jobs as men, and homosexuality was common and promoted during military service.

>From this pov, I wouldn’t say that Christianity was super different from other patriarchies.

Christianity is a major propagator of patriarchy in most Western societies. Both as an institution, and as a undercurrent in the cultural psyche. This is because of the dogmatic limitation placed on human sexuality within the Christian framework. Western transgenderism is, in part, a reaction to the limitations of the Christian framework.

No. 2136682

>>2136367
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture-bound_syndrome

Hopefully this wikipedia article explains some of it. Basically, everywhere in the world, people sometimes suffer mental distress for some reason or another. But the way that the mental illness symptoms present themselves, and the way we classify the “illness” the person is experiencing, varies according to where you are in the world.

Anorexia could be considered a culturally-bound mental illness - there are studies of isolated societies in the Pacific islands, where teen girls never had eating disorders until their islands got TV. These girls were likely experiencing traumatic things in their lives due to being women going through puberty, and if they didn’t learn about anorexia TV they likely would’ve acted out in other ways, but now they developed anorexia because they’d seen it on TV and they had an example to model their own behavior on.
https://www.nytimes.com/1999/05/20/world/study-finds-tv-alters-fiji-girls-view-of-body.html

Similarly, with the rise in western young adults identifying as transgender, we know that many young people suffer from all sorts of issues (sexual trauma, internalized homophobia, negative perceptions of gender roles, hatred of their bodies, too much yaoi fanfiction, AGP, etc.). People have always experienced the things I listed in the parentheses, but within the last 10 years there’s been an explosion of transgender people in the media. So now, people experiencing the issues I listed in the parenthesis will assume that means they’re transgender, and they should transition, because they have examples to model their behavior on.

No. 2136837

>>2136682
Yes, this is a thing people don't realize exist even though it's been documented for centuries. During the hysteria period young women would go to the doctor 100% convinced they had hysteria. They would unprompted claim they could literally feel their uterus traveling up their body and choking them, and they would literally physically have trouble breathing when they thought this happened. They weren't acting and they didn't do it on purpose.
We now know (and certain doctors at the time) that it's physically impossible for your uterus to do that, but these girls were in distress (often just from being teenage girls going though puberty) - so they accidentally convinced themselves the popular explanation MUST be true, and they started manifesting it. The brain is powerful and flawed, our perception affects reality. The same is happening with girls now thinking they are trans.

No. 2137157

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Ellen Page's character in the latest season of Umbrella Academy is suddenly a heartbreaking ladies man running a rough dive bar. I can suspend my disbelief for time travel, superpowers and talking monkeys but come on. Her "former lover" must have 6 inches on her kek

No. 2137198

>>2134845
>>2134702
so this it ot, but you are completely wrong. pie religions did have some egalitarian elements, but they were incredibly patriarchal and hierarchical. also you seem to forgetting that greek religion and greek civilization were heavily influenced by near astern (middle eastern) cultures and thought of themselves as closer to egyptian people then the barbarian of europe, even Indian civilization were influenced by the indigenous people of India and what >>2135021 said is also true, every muslim(semitic) culture also has long tradition of boy fucking

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>>2135194
>>2135225
>>2135317
not Afghani, but a similar situation used to exist in my country as well. one thing you all have to understand is that women didn't choose to be men in any of these cases, families without sons have their daughters "become" male, usually requiring wearing male clothes and cutting their hair short and adopting a male name and everyone sorta goes along with it, its a dead tradition in south and central India, but still happens in the northwest Pakistan and Afghanistan, it's not a great existence either cause you basically have to do backbreaking labor, first for your parents, then your sisters(to get them married) and then you basically wait to die on your farm

No. 2137239

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Press (x) for extra doubt

No. 2137264

>>2137239
Owed implies they given something. What have troons done for the planet?

No. 2137313

>>2137206
Pakichan?

No. 2137327

>>2137264
Well they gave us…

And we cannot forget when they fought for…

And all they did for…

No. 2137381

>>2137264
To be fair, troons have given me more confidence in my fashion sense and plenty of laughs. That has to count for something.

No. 2137535

>>2136454
If you think about it, it's just another form of pick-me'ism only instead of blatant misogynists, it's from misogynist men who think they are women but think they aren't misogynist because they want to skinwalk women.

No. 2137694

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>>2131762
You reminded me about the composer of the main Bomberman deet and of various Bomberman games'OSTs, "June" Chikuma aka Atsushi Chikuma.
He's a weird music nerd and an AGP moid who larps as a humble japanese woman. I knew nothing about him before getting recd a video about Bomberman's music theory. The narrator in the video kept going about how much "Jun" was such a genius of a woman, but the pic in the video credited a guy named Atsushi… needless to say I went to check and saw him before he transed.

It's the kind of thing that worsens your day just a little bit when you see failmales like him pretend his achievements should be lumped with the ones of actual female musicians.

No. 2138069

>>2135204
Literally nobody cares about your fucking tattoos. Every time I hear some tripe like this about tattoos or piercings or vampires or werewolves being kweer AF guize I imagine an army of Lunas, posing their flabby bodies in the weirdest possible angles to show off their new retarded tattoos, getting smug about their controversial piercings that are caked in filth and clearly infected, and refusing to wash or wear normal clothes while complaining about their looks, and writing terrible poetry about their self-inflicted suffering. You'd think that enough of these idiots would have developed some sense of shame to go along with their paper-thin skin but they go and write this crap and probably talk like this all the fucking time IRL too.

No. 2139089

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No. 2139110

>>2134499
so this person is saying they relate to characters with traditional gender roles? wow, revolutionary. so gender
>>2134670
transition is always a mistake
>>2137239
the world isn't kind enough to them since some (not braindead) people are still against them castrating little kids and invading female spaces

No. 2139128

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>>2137694
This reminds me of Walter ‘Wendy’ Carlos. Watch any documentary or video on the history of electronic music, he’s always mentioned as a “female pioneer of synth.” They pull out the fugliest agp and try to pass him off as an example of female intellect and prowess. It’s downright insulting when Delia Derbyshire is right there, who I’d say has contributed more in terms of influence of sound. The Dr. Who theme is much more iconic than whatever Walter Carlos cooked up. ‘Wendy’ Carlos is also used as an example that electronica/synth is a TiM’s genre, when it’s only very recently that stupid genres like hyperpop have been infiltrated by troons. The only other TiM I can think of that has a name in electronic music was Genesis P. Orridge of Throbbing Gristle and Psychic T.V. Though he didn’t consider himself a ‘transwoman’, he was ‘pandrogynous’, basically a concept of skinwalking your partner to look more similar to them. He skinwalked his late wife with horrendous surgical procedures up until his death. But the notion being pushed by troons that electronic music has always been for mtfs, by mtfs is incredibly sexist and outright saying that electronic music is only for men.

No. 2139138

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>>2139128
Samefag but one of my favorite artists, Momus, released a song about Walter Carlos. Troons probably never called this out because they’re too busy listening to Machine Girl.

No. 2139414

>>2136470
Nayrt but I love your brain.

No. 2139506

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>>2139128
His Switched-On Bach album gets way too much credit. It's just Bach pieces arranged for synthesizer. Derbyshire and other women actually composed their own music or even created instruments. Daphne Oram (picrel) made a machine where you draw soundwaves on a filmstrip and run it through the machine to play the sound, and Laurie Spiegel developed a music software called Music Mouse.
There's a pretty good documentary on women electronic music pioneers called Sisters with Transistors. It does unfortunately include Carlos, but he's only there for a few minutes, much less than the others, so you can easily skip over his part.

No. 2139507

>>2134986
>>2135021
>>2135194
And the rest of the replies to this topic. Thank you, this is the sort of info/discussion I was hoping for from gender studies class.

No. 2139595

>>2139506
I’ve watched that documentary, on letterboxd users were complaining that it was terfy for not focusing on him more. Also forgot that he sued Momus for the Walter Carlos song for 22 million. Momus settled out of court for 33k. This was in 1998, so it surprised me that a song suggesting that Walter Carlos had autogynephilia would have been taken as a serious threat. I’m not from the UK is ‘Wendy’ Carlos a beloved treasure or something? Momus was pretty based for the song but upon reading his Wikipedia he married a 17-year-old at 34.

No. 2139710

>>2136470
Your statements about the beginnings of Judaism really does bring credence to the theory of Cain and Abel being an allegory of the Jewish tribes trying to push the idea of themselves the noble pastoralists chosen by one god that keep getting put down by the evil, jealous, and wayward urbanites (farming baaaad!) Funny enough Mesopotamia had something similar yet with the opposite situation. Enki represented the backward farming community, while Inanna was the hip and forward urban civilizations. So when she stole the gifts of civilization (Me/Meh) from Enki, it was seen as justified and Enki allowed her to keep them because he could see that the large city-states were the future.

No. 2140098

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Why is a troon now voicing Trish, a female character, from Devil may cry? He is basically a flamboyant gay man who needs editing to sound more female, why the fuck wouldn't you hire an actual woman for the role?

No. 2140106

>>2140098
hes a nepo baby thats why

No. 2140108

>>2140098
he used to do tranny porn, nasty

No. 2140113

>>2140106
A nepo baby and he still did porn? Typical troon behaviour.
>>2140108
I believe moids really love troon shit so they can kid themselves that they're straight while wakning to it.

No. 2140120

>>2140098
The retards in charge of localization keep deciding that we need males to voice female characters, it's "progressive". In reality it's hilariously regressive, it's like we are back in history when men played all the women's parts in theater. Luckily Japan doesn't do this stupid shit, hopefully they never do.

No. 2140124

>>2140120
Is it happening often now? Troons should stay voicing ugly monsters like The Unknown in Dead by daylight. That incident was hilarious btw

No. 2140126

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>>2140120
>luckily Japan doesn't do this stupid shit, hopefully they never do.
…..too late nona..

No. 2140165

>>2140098
I watched some streams with Resident Evil actors being interviewed or playing the games, and this troon is always in them, behind the camera. Like here 12:40. He isn't in those games! Stop inserting yourself dude!

No. 2140168

File: 1723890673135.mp4 (3.12 MB, 960x540, SUIhvRw.mp4)

>>2140098
>>2140106
>>2140120
repost from the MTF thread, but in america (and a few other countries like mine), the va and localization scene has basically been taken over by wokies, mostly because they have rich parents and work cheaply (no union contracts or anything) even the non-troon voice actors are awful

No. 2140170

>>2140098
The series died when they made Dante ugly anyway

No. 2140177

>>2140170
Very true.

No. 2140227

>>2140170
Yeah. They cry over making women in games 'ugly' but the true uglification is happening to the men in videogames. I want fresh smooth-skinned hotties, not whatever that old haggot they call Dante in dmc5 is.

No. 2140238

>>2140227
Nero got uglified too. Still young but got tiny squinty eyes and supershort hair. At least V looked good.
>>2140168
Anon what is this? Sounds like an unfunny parody dub.

No. 2140266

>>2140098
This is why I only play/watch shit subbed anyway. I cant stand the troon agenda. this is actually vile

No. 2140267

>>2140170
Kek you are 100 percent correct. I only care about DMC 1-3

No. 2140271

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they wanted teach this crap in schools

No. 2140274

>>2140271
This is fucking disgusting. Why do they want to try to change biology so much? facts and chromosomes wont lie. Gender identity is not the same as XX/XY and the biological traits that come with only being a woman or male.

No. 2140299

>>2140271
God I miss the days when our sex ed reference material were just anatomy outlines like you'd find in any other biology textbook but with more information on the gonads and demonstrations of what develops during puberty. These newfangled depictions would make me terrified of growing into an adult body because all of those adults look gross and uncomfortable in their bodies.

No. 2140303

>>2140271
The fact that the example of a woman is a black woman that's really big and tall so the tranny moid looks smaller in comparison, even the white woman that's trying to be a moid looks smaller.
I really hate that shit of them, saying that black women are manly.

No. 2140309

>>2140271
kek at the male troon being drawn with an autogynesmile

No. 2140311

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I'm halfway through reading Little Women (lovely so far), but can someone please explain to me what "queer vibes" he's mentioning?

No. 2140327

>>2140311
Is it because Jo's a bit of a tomboy/wild child compared to her sisters? That's the only thing I can assume. Regressive asf. God forbid a woman writes about a girl who doesn't fully agree with her position in the world, apparently that makes her trans now.

No. 2140334

>>2140238
Nero was one of my top 10 videogame husbandos, I'll never forgive capcom for what they did to him

No. 2140339

>>2140303
They try so hard to be all woke, but they don't see how fucking weird and racist they are. And not just black people, they do it to anyone who's not white or east asian.

No. 2140350

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>>2140311
It's obsessive, they read everything as queer, you are queer, I am queer, anons are queer and Winnie the pooh is queer like the teletubbies and hello kitty, the Winx club is actually about being queer, so is Alice in Wonderland and Kirby is an absolute queer allegory.

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I honestly have no idea how they can read what they just typed and still not get it.

No. 2140375

>>2140363
I guess she's saying people think she's identifies as a guy because women who don't shave could only ever identify as/be men and that it's bad to associate body hair with men only?

No. 2140376

>>2140363
it’s not misogynistic or anti anything to associate masculine traits with the male sex. zoomers give me a headache

No. 2140462

>>2140376
There's nothing masculine about armpit hair or short hairstyles. Stop being a tardthot

No. 2140474

>>2140363
I don't see the problem, she's saying that despite all of those things she's still a girl. If you're against trans ideology then you understand that the goal SHOULD be people understanding that you can do things outside of the norm for your gender and still be a woman/man.

No. 2140483

>>2140376
Women grow arm pit hair so arm pit hair is inherently a feminine trait too, you're just being sold the idea that it isn't so you consume razors.

No. 2140544

>>2140363
She's right though.

No. 2140631

>>2136355
>>2136371
i know for a fact that she lurks here. i don't have the proof to back that up anymore but this post was written by her >>>/ot/2022272 she deletes her videos often so i don't have the video she's referring to in this post. she peaked for a while but now she's back to reposting pro mtf shit. she's had a really fucked up life from what i've watched her talk about, closeted dad and exposure to old ass gay moids since childhood, agp ex, is an autistic girl with gender dysphoria, etc. apparently she has an ovarit posting mom. she seems to be very volatile due to this and her bpd.
she really does seem to be a very intelligent young woman all things considered. the point in me saying is this is not to try to turn her into a cow because i truly feel bad for her and wish her well, just to let you know that she has peaked before. i just hope that it sticks the next time, but i think her environment might be hindering her.

No. 2140637

>>2140474
It's the opposite nona, she's giving people the side eye when they say those things. She doesn't agree with what they say.

No. 2140645

>>2140474
I agree the bad grammar and refusal to use quotation marks makes it hard to read, but I actually read it as:
>When someone says that I'm "upholding [male] gender stereotypes" because I have armpit hair, a short haircut, and that I wear a binder, those things "don't mean that I'm not not a girl" and that it's "misogynistic and anti-feminist to associate those things with masculinity."
Basically, the TIF here is getting irritated at the non-existent GC person saying "Hey, just because you cut your hair and have pit hair, that doesn't make you a boy. Those are based on gender stereotypes anyway, and since you're upholding them instead of breaking them down you're acting in an anti-feminist way. It's misogynistic to believe that if a woman doesn't shave or cuts her hair short, that those attributes suddenly turn her into a man."

No. 2140826

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I was just googling some things about Kirby when I found a blogpost from some site called "natalie.tf". I had the feeling it was a troon but still had hope it was a woman (of course, that never ends well for me). Lo and behold, this is the most recent post. Obviously, that .tf stands for transformation fetish, because of course trannies are all about their fetishes.

>>2121106
omg it's a Mr. Mime skinwalking a Jynx kekkkk

No. 2140828

>>2139128
I can think of a couple more TiM producers in history, but yep, i often see people half-joking that 'cis' women aren't into this stuff because how can you possibly be 'feminine' and computer-savvy without being an AGP.. It's obviously rehashed boys club ideology
>Genesis P-Orridge
Horribly violent, woman-hating moid who terrorized woman after woman before his AGP art project. He's such a piece of shit you'd think he was written by an Ovarit user as parody

No. 2140832

>>2140483
im not talking about growing armpit hair im talking about the masculine presenting troon in picrel

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>>2140826
The title of this post made me kek, pornsick males are so stupid.

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>>2140836
And finally this blog post that terrified the fuck out of me. I didn't include the posts's image in the screenshot because it's that horrifying.
It's a pixiv guro fetish manga about literal skinwalking. Troons are fucking unhinged. I kek'd at how in almost every shot of the girl (or guy in a girl's skin? I legit couldn't force myself to actually pay attention to the story) is subject to the most ridiculous sexualized angles. In almost every shot where her body is visible, you can see her underwear, except when she's fully naked of course.

No. 2140875

>>2128770
Bring back both crop tops AND sexy boxers for young fit men please

No. 2140889

>>2133413
>>2129069
You can be horny for a guy and also admire his sense of fashion and personality or whatever. It doesn't mean you have to literally BE him. You can be inspired by him and wear similar clothes because you like his style, or be more like him because you like the way he is. Or maybe you want to be more like him because of the completely normal feeling of wanting to think about the person you like at all times. But you will never BE him nor does this turn you into a man.

They're unable to understand this and act normal about their attraction, because they really believe gender stereotypes are a rule of nature and not just made-up bullshit us humans created out of generalizations about males and females. In other words, they truly think that being male means wearing certain clothes or having certain personality traits and vice-versa, so they cannot possibly be women while having those traits bc girls are naturally supposed to be lame and uninteresting amirite? They want to be cooler like their husbando but they don't understand that women can also be cool in the same exact way, without girly stereotypes attached.

Their desperate, childish need to skinwalk everything they like, just like kinnies, gets on my nerves. But I can hardly say I blame them, given how obsessed the whole world is with the idea that men and women must always fit into two completely separate, tiny boxes.

No. 2140986

>>2140544
She's implying that she disagrees with feminists when they say that you don't stop being female just because you don't shave or because you have short hair. She says that said feminists also claim that by identifying as a man based on those "unfeminine" traits, she's upholding gender stereotypes.

The way she wrote it makes it hard to tell at first, but the based take belongs to the strawman feminists she's arguing against

No. 2140994

>>2140271
Also isn't it really homophobic? I feel bad for all of the gay kids who trannies want to teach this to. Sigh I just wish for a day young gays don't have to feel like their attraction is immoral or "transphobic" and can just live their lives.
>>2140098
Even outside of troonism I hate nepo babies.
Putting in the extra effort to make this tranny sound good just because his mommy and daddy have connections is so embarrassing. there's probably some great female vas out there who can't find jobs in this field.

No. 2141148

>>2134499
I'm fluent in gendie speak. She's saying that there are some characters that are so gender conforming that it almost seems like an ironic caricature of that sex's gender role. "Gender irony" is what straight people pretending to be gay think camp is so they try to incorporate these ideas into their gender LARP.

No. 2141212

>>2094319
Love how obvious it is that this is a woman's art
Also love how she's still drawing females wearing clothes that were designed specifically for women in real life
And clothes that were harmful to wear but had to be worn to conform to what society expected of those women, no less
It's like TIFs like this are too attached to the chains that society forced onto us, and getting rid of them entirely would be too uncomfortable. If this is the same artist I'm thinking, then she's also drawn a trans "man" in lingerie, BDSM gear and a submissive position too, as if it's anything revolutionary to depict a person of the female sex like that.

No. 2141215

>>2140271
Was the tattoo necessary?

>>2140238
>At least V looked good.
Yeah. He's really got them PSL.

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No. 2141351

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I really hope I can someday have
>a woman on the internet isn't speaking the way I wish she could speak
As a problem in my life someday.
These people act like JK Rowling is murdering trannies left and right with her bare hands, all they're celebrating here is
>yay we totally made a woman shut up! Take that! Women!!
When is everyone going to stop hating women?

No. 2141380

How do anons fucking deal with this gender ideology shit? The more I read and encounter irl the more angry I become. I hate being liberal becuase this shit dominates discourse about anything and ofcourse reminds me that patriarchy and misogyny run deep in this community.

No. 2141457

>>2141380
Liberalism inherently supports shit like gender ideology. So maybe it'd be better if you went more radical.

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>>2141380
>How do anons fucking deal with this gender ideology shit?
Voting with your feet.

No. 2141564

>>2141380
Big same anon. This shit is legit making me more depressed. I really really wish all men would just drop dead right now.

No. 2141569

>>2141457
Even more radical? You mean like adding zoophilia, pedophilia and necrophilia to lgbt+?

No. 2141575

>>2141564
Its mostly women who support that though.

No. 2141577

>>2141351
Their wishful thinking is something else.
>Rowling hasn't tweeted in a while, it must be because she regrets standing up for women's rights
Or it could be because she is busy with real life, currently writing another Strike novel, work with multiple charities, and helping out with the upcoming HP tv-series.

No. 2141628

>>2141575
NTA but the ones doing actual damage are men, regardless if women allow it to happen or not.

No. 2141723

>>2141380
I just remind myself that it’s a cult that preys on lonely, vulnerable, and mentally ill people. Cults wouldn’t exist if their recruitment tactics weren’t so successful. And the people who are pro-trans are misguided and trying to do the right thing. Most former TRAs eventually peak due to exposure to trans people - if you have a functioning brain eventually the contradictions will pile up and you won’t be able to ignore the misogyny. I basically feel like I’m an atheist living in a small town where everyone goes to church together, or like someone who didn’t believe in communism living in Russia in the 1950s. Throughout human history there have been people who’ve seen through the bullshit of whatever ideology was popular among their peers, and unfortunately your best options are either to ignore it or find a new community where the ideology is less popular. For me I’m trying to make friends with more normies who don’t discuss politics. I really like anime and doing art, but unfortunately a lot of people who like those things tend to fall for TRA crap, so I’m trying to concentrate on making friends who like normie stuff like Taylor Swift and going outdoors. Also I try to limit my time on social media, and I don’t follow new friends that I make on social media. Also when talking to a potential new friend I’ll throw in a random comment about Harry Potter (be like “oh, that’s so Hufflepuff of you!”) as a litmus test to see whether the person I’m talking to immediately launches into a “JKR bad!” speech. If they can discuss Harry Potter without feeling the need to virtue signal about hating JKR than maybe they’re not totally crazy.

No. 2141893

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>>2141723
Thank you, this is very pratical and a good perspective. There always will be some crazy backwards ideology.

>>2141533
So I looked into this more, and an interesting example that Wikipedia gave was the free state project for libertarians. Picrel
I’d like to imagine that women with GC views could do something similar but I think it would be immediately attacked.

No. 2142186

>>2140631
She definitely does. In most recent vid she used the terms ‘lolcow’ and ‘personal lolcow’, if you actively use the term lolcow, you know this site. She even used the thread picture from the stoney baloney thread in one of her thumbnails. She mentioned very vaguely “anonymous forums”, either she’s referring to this site or KF, but it’s most likely she’s mistaking image boards for forums. She’s interesting to listen to, I enjoy her videos but she would be so much more tolerable if she realized the conflicting beliefs she holds. It’s almost aggravating how she doesn’t see how many of the beliefs she holds are completely incompatible. I think at most she thinks that HSTS men are the only true trannies. There’s almost an air of self-awareness that she gives off that she is deep down in disagreement with gender ideology. I would love if she reacted to some Heterodorx.

No. 2142192

Ngl I'm gonna find it so funny when teens start to openly make fun of how older zoomers were so retarded they cut off their breasts and thought it made them "non-women"

No. 2142198

>>2141351
Their news are so bleak they talk about JKR not tweeting as if that's news kek

No. 2142200

>>2140631
That post is interesting because she refers to herself as a ‘butch lesbian.’ If she was dating an AGP she would consider that a straight relationship. I notice many OSA detrans call themselves butches. Nonetheless, she seems like she’s begging for help through her videos.

No. 2142225

>>2141723
>I really like anime and doing art, but unfortunately a lot of people who like those things tend to fall for TRA crap

Yes, I've seen SO many trannies in these communities, it's insane. I think being exposed to trannies in weeb spaces particularly is part of why I saw through the bullshit faster than my peers, because it's kinda hard to consider them harmless or just the same as a gay man or something when I constantly see them lusting over female anime characters and just being massive degenerates in general. The moid in them is so obvious and they ALWAYS like coomshit, besides loads of them trooning out just because they like yuri basically and want to be a lesbian anime girl unironically. It really makes you see how insane they are (unless you're a total retard) when you're constantly watching them say shit like "goals" about a teenage anime girl in general.

No. 2142277

>>2142225
Being into lolita fashion is what peaked me for the same reasons. You get the AGP pedo sissies, the fujoTIFs who are so obsessed with shota anime (Kuroshit I’m looking at you) that they want to become the uke and NB girls who look, dress and act exactly the same as every other girl but insist they’re not girls because they’re people. My comm even had the rare HSTS brolita who wouldn’t shut up about how much cuter and daintier he was than “cis” girls and would throw hissy fits when anyone let on that they clocked him instantly (or more hilariously, didn’t realise that he was supposed to be trans vs. just another dude in a dress).
I’m honestly amazed that there are any non-gendie handmaidens left in that community at all. The worst part was that even when they acknowledged that Pedo Sissy #54 turned out to be a sex pest, they’d insist that this didn’t mean Pedo Sissy #55 wasn’t a True and Honest Woman. Pattern recognition? No no no, can’t have that, that’s mean.

No. 2142341

>>2142277
>Being into lolita fashion
Cringe(baiting)

No. 2142353

>>2142341
not even a lolita but kys tranny(infighting)

No. 2142421

>>2140828
This frustrates me that anything related to technology has been overthrown by men, trans-identified or not. I would just love to ask one of these tims why exactly is electronic music not for women? What excuse could they give me that isn’t going to be the most sexist excuse ever?

No. 2142442

>>2142341
Get off my website poser

No. 2142452

>>2142341
Anon doesn't know how LC came into existence kek

No. 2142475

Glad the conversation is on electronic music, the underground 2020 hyperpop scene (back when 100 gecs was doing minecraft concerts) is what made me peak and detransition. Noticing that 90% of the artists were male (trans or otherwise) and that there were hardly any popular female artists, and only one or two tifs at all made me depressed. But following some of the musicians on twitter, waking up to feeds defending loli and babyfur crap by saying "don't demonize trans womens sexualities!", unfollowing them all, and then having it happen again and again after each URLfest? It was just too much.

No. 2142535

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>>2141380
It's hard to block out if you're gay to be honest, finding community has gotten harder and harder since the late 2010's (and especially the early 2020's). I hate trannies so much it's unreal, narcissistic fucks ruined everything. I'm very open about being anti troon online but in real life if i meet some kweerio who assumes I'm pro troon and love talking about troonism just because I'm gay, I act like I'm confused and have no idea what they're talking about. Very gaslighty but it works like a charm kek.

No. 2142541

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>>2142535
Much love to you nonna, not gay but have read the shit troons say about women and quite frankly it makes me want to hate crime them.

No. 2142544

>>2142535
Fuck they’ve swarmed the community, fake queers too. These fake lesbians who actually just simp hard for male dick and hate on actual lesbians within the community can fuck off. I went to a gay bar and the barista was so rude to and homophobic like these gay moids are never going to pick you.

No. 2142545

>>2142535
NTA but that's a good idea. We have to make it normal again to not know what the fuck all this gender shit is. Also might make TRAs feel like they're just chronically online and stop taking it so seriously, or so I hope.

No. 2142548

>>2142541
Why are all the words in this pic highlighted? Someone post the original version pls

No. 2142549

>>2140836
I love how they project their brainrot onto young female characters as if a teenage girl would EVER have that thought in her life (and if she did she wouldn't call it "juicy" like a 60 year old pedophile kek)

No. 2142581

>>2141569
No, as in being more politically radical. "Liberal" is not synonymous with "progressive". Liberalism aligns more with the idea that "everything should be allowed as long as it doesn't hurt other people" and also supports profiting off troonism. Liberalism isn't a radical ideology these days (used to be), it is the standard now.
Radical feminism is distinct from liberal feminism.

Note that being politically radical doesn't mean supporting/tolerating/not judging every single perversion people come up with (such as zoophilia, pedophilia, DDLG, BDSM, etc.) unlike what some so-called "politically radical" people (in reality just terminally online coomer LARPers) claim.

No. 2142722

I have a coworker that's kind of dumb and young, sometimes he wants to talk about social issues and stuff he sees on the internet or nerd shit. The other way we were discussing something about gender roles for women (mostly makeup and clothes and stuff about appearance norms), but unfortunately we had to cut our conversation short since our break was over. But he was about to tell me his stupid theory that "people aren't born masculine or feminine, they're born non-binary". He should be grateful we ended the conversation there or else I would've given him the rant of his life. "Non-binary" isn't a thing just as gender isn't a thing. If you unironically use the term "non-binary" to describe anything that falls outside of those two categories, you're reifying, and therefore strengthening gender roles. Gender isn't a real thing based on the physical world, it's a bunch of rules that have to be enforced by us humans to exist at all. Babies aren't born "non-binary", they're just born. What need is there to apply new labels to everything? And not being either masculine or feminine doesn't erase the fact that they're either male or female.

Another thing that pissed the fuck out of me was when I showed him one drawing of myself and he thought I had drawn myself as a man. Just because I drew myself wearing the exact same baggy clothes I always wear at work, and with short hair. Just because he couldn't see the shape of my chest and hips in the drawing. Gender stereotypes are so retarded and people who believe in gendershit are the ones who enforce them the most these days. After seeing my reaction to his retarded question he told me that he has only ever seen two women dressed like this: Billie Eilish and me. How sheltered does this guy have to be to have never ever seen another woman wear baggy clothes that hide her figure, even in fucking drawings?

tbh I think he's gonna troon out.

No. 2142764

>>2142722
This guy sounds like he has a form of mental retardation. I knew someone like this who was a lower functioning sperg that couldn’t believe I wore men’s pants. He thought that women only wore skinny jeans. Not being able to comprehend women wearing loose pants is a sign of low IQ, add that to the DSM.

No. 2142789

>>2142764
He's definitely stunted in some way. He claims to have ADHD, had a shit education, suffered abuse in his childhood, and seems to spend an unhealthy amount of time on retarded internet communities (both scrotey ones and gendie ones). A recipe for disaster.

No. 2142797

Have any of you ever had troon friends? I have a couple troon online friends and I dunno. I don't want to hate troons because they're fucked up and force fed the retarded rhetoric of "if you like X or Y you're not a man/woman!" etc etc so they start questioning themselves. My troon friends are actually nice and aren't obsessive about being a troon and don't think they're superior to biological women, etc etc. just like.. how do you deal with that conflict of your friends and your ideals? Do you really think there could be good natured troons out there?

No. 2142810

>>2142797
Anon you have got to forget the individual. It's the ideology that is harmful. I know like 4 tranny males and double the TIFs. Some of them really are nice. But that does not change the fact that they have been influenced by an insidious, sexist ideology that reinforces gender stereotypes.
If your trans friends truly did not think themselves superior to real women, they would not be foolish enough to try to "become" women, because they'd know they're just men and nothing can change that.

No. 2142866

>>2142797
I currently have:
A TIM coworker
A TIF coworker
A theyfab coworker
A TIM relative

In the past I’ve had a best friend who became a TIF, a crush who became a TIF, and at least 1 TIM, 4 theyfabs, and 2 TIFs in my previous social circle.

I distanced myself from my old social circle and former best friend, in part because of their ideology - once I peaked I felt like I couldn’t be honest about my feelings and remain friends with them. I can’t really do anything about the trans coworkers if I want to keep my job (although every now and then I consider looking for a new job in a less woke area, but the money’s just so good) and I’m hoping that my TIM relative grows out of it eventually.

I don’t hate any of these people. Most of them are pretty smart, funny, and creative. A few of them are very clearly autistic. From what I know about their childhoods, some of these people suffered some kind of abuse that undoubtedly factored into their decision to transition. I have sympathy for these people. Yet, I know that if I were ever to voice my true feelings (“You aren’t actually a woman, you are a sad man doing a woman cosplay and everyone around you is humoring you because they’re worried you’ll either kill yourself or chimp out on them if we told you the truth.”) it wouldn’t matter how many years they’ve known me, or how nice I’ve been up until this point. If I go against their ideology I would instantly be labeled an intolerant bigot who wants them dead and deserves to be fired for my wrongthink. So no, I don’t think that good natured troons exist. If you are delusional enough to believe you are the opposite sex then you are not a rational person.

No. 2143111

>>2142797
>Have any of you ever had troon friends?
Yes (enby, "not a man" identified) he's the only of my male friends who've ever sexually assaulted me, then decided to stalk me and my family for a year when i finally cut ties with him

No. 2143119

>>2142797
>My troon friends are actually nice and aren't obsessive about being a troon and don't think they're superior to biological women, etc etc. just like.. how do you deal with that conflict of your friends and your ideals? Do you really think there could be good natured troons out there?
Nona first you have to swallow the hard cold pill of truth that there are NO good troons. If these men understood or respected women they wouldn't think they are a woman, at all. They think they know better than women what a woman is - that they as a man can be one, be it mentally or physically. The fact that they think any woman has to on any level accept a man as a "woman" is inherently misogynistic and predatory in itself.

They think their "feelings" are more important than the actual real life safety and reality of women. The absolute BEST case scenario is a troon like who admits he's male, but that he's still identifies as a woman. Even then they think women don't even deserve to have a word that means "woman" unless it includes them as men. Because these men fundamentally have no respect for real women and can't even let us have a single word to describe us.

I also need you to know that countless anons have had a "good troon friend" who seemed like an innocent confused autist who may or may not be a bit gay. We'd swear he was one of the good ones, "not like other troons" - but slowly you realize he's been a massive coomer the whole time, that he has a porn addiction and he trooned out because of the fetishes, suddenly you see him saying sexist shit you swore he would never say. And once it hits you in retrospect you're able to spot all the little signs for it. You realize he was using you for validation all along, you were part of the fetish larp.

No. 2143125

>>2142535
I’m not gay but still surrounded by TRAs so I do something similar, and I mostly get away with it because I’m an obvious autist who gives off clueless vibes and live under a rock regarding a lot of modern media. My favourite thing is to be very cheerfully open-minded and progressive in a pre-gender ideology/neutrally GC way, like
>Oh of course men can wear skirts and makeup! That doesn’t make them any less men! And there’s nothing masculine about a woman with unshaven body hair, that’s just our natural state!
which leaves handmaidens scrambling to explain that um acktually the fact that this very obviously male person is wearing a skirt signifies he’s really a woman and their own armpit hair shows they’re nonbinary or whatever. I don’t dare to do it around TIMs because I don’t want to get MA’AMed but it works very well on women. They either end up admitting that certain aspects of gender ideology make no sense or they give up on trying to convince me because I won’t “get it” anyway. And the best part is that they can’t dismiss me as a neonazi or tradthot or something. Most of the women I talk to are old enough to remember the time before trans completely took over feminist and LGB discourse, so opening a little portal to the pre-TRA days can lead some of them to question how we went from “lesbians don’t do dick” to “actually it’s racist for lesbians to refuse dick if it identifies as female” in such a short time. TRA goalposts move so quickly (by design) that it’s easy for people swept up in the narrative to lose track of where they started.

No. 2143273

>>2143119
Different anon adding to this:
>If these men understood or respected women they wouldn't think they are a woman, at all.
The reason your TIM friends identify as women is because they unironically see women as a sexualized caricature. They genuinely believe we are defined as women because "women wear makeup, skirts, high heels, are beautiful and sexy, and are fucked by huge cocks and love being treated like a worthless slutty cumrag just like in my porn". The reason they identify as women is because they wear clothes that are stereotyped as women's clothes, and get off to it because they associate women's clothes with being a woman and being a woman with being a porn caricature.

No. 2143289

>>2143273
Yes, you cannot respect women AND troon out. They mutually exclusive concepts.

Even if they really hate themselves and think they have gender dysphoria (it's not a real diagnosis) and hate being men, and always acted feminine and are gay and promise they'll stay out of women's spaces because they know they don't pass etc etc… even just taking the word "woman" for themselves is disrespectful and hateful towards women. It's using our reality to cope with your fully male problems as if women only exist to please and soothe your male problems that have nothing to do with us. Men's feelings being hurt do not mean they get to erase the word "woman", that's ridiculous.

No. 2143343

>>2142277
Neither me nor most of my friends are really into lolita anymore, but so many of my friends from the community are giant handmaidens and I just can't stop scratching my head over the cognitive dissonance. We were into the hobby during the early 2010's through like 2017ish so we have plenty experience with sissys and how disgusting they are (some of them even have left a legacy said friends occasionally bring up and make fun of), but they STILL somehow consider AGPs a "terf talking point" and that all tranny moids are hella valid. I just can't wrap my head around it whatever mental olympics they are doing and don't even try anymore.

No. 2143390

>>2142452
A bunch of ageplay losers on /cgl/ went and made their own imageboard because they were sick of their cringe being called out

No. 2143408

>>2142797
No joke, the biggest misandrist I've ever seen irl was a bisexual TIM kek. Didn't even try to hide it either. He gave me strong "abused as a kid" vibes so I'm ngl, I actually hope he got better and just chose to live as a flamboyant guy.

No. 2143659

one of my few entertainments left is seeing american democrats moan about how the election is still close when trump is such an obvious badman. i simply ask how they feel about the uk labour party banning puberty blockers and they entertain me much with their floundering.

not really sure who to vote for myself. may write in taylor swift.

No. 2143705

>>2136837
>>2136682
Also, there’s the promise of an escape. If you hate how people see you and treat you as a woman, you now have a cultural excuse to transition. Instead of questioning the whole culture and it’s roles, transgenderism allows for the stereotypes to remain intact. Also the promise of modern medicine allowing for these freakish surgeries and hormones treatments.

In a way, you can compare it to transracialism. Most examples are white-to-other, but there’s a reason why it isn’t other-to-white. I’m gonna use black-to-white as an example. We know nasty stereotypes have been used for centuries to justify slavery and oppression. And you couldn’t escape to whiteness, even if you were mixed with white ancestry. You could lie and try to “pass” but passing for white isn’t the same as actually being white. And even when “Oreo” was a common perjorative against black people with unsual interests and perspectives, this didn’t mean they were actually white on the inside. And many black peoples around this time took the effort to explain that they were still black, just not stereotypical. Since you coulnd’t escape to whiteness, you had to expand the box of blackness. And that’s what feminists did for women in the 20th century.

Maybe things might change in the future if the genetic engineering/cybernetics/plastic surgery augmentation advances and it becomes possible to alter as another race. But I wouldn’t be surprised if that wasn’t used as tool for grater assimilation into a population.

No. 2143747

>>2143659
Same. No idea who would deserve my vote. Kinda hope Trump wins to even some of this shit out in the other direction, even tho he's a nasty old fuck. I'm gonna write in JK Rowling lol.

No. 2143759

>>2142277
That makes sense, I've always liked lolita fashion myself but never tried it so I wasn't familiar with dramas within the community, and even I noticed some women saying they were NB or he/theys while in full lolita get up. If I ever did lolita stuff I'd probably just keep it to myself so I don't have to encounter people like that
>>2142797
Yeah, and it's why I peaked. I don't think good natured troons exist, all of them turned out to be shitty, mentally ill and narcissistic people
>>2143289
>Yes, you cannot respect women AND troon out. They mutually exclusive concepts.

This is why I can't stand when troons pretend to be feminists. None of what they promote is in any way actually pro-woman, yet they'll keep acting like they're the biggest feminist allies because…They "admire" women so much they want to skinwalk us. That's literally the only way I can see them justifying it to themselves as not misogynistic, yet it still is lol because if they truly admired women they wouldn't pretend like they can even become us

No. 2143769

>>2142797
Unfortunately I've had two male friends troon out. One was a chaser and porn addict. Made me frequently uncomfortable and was the type to get into arguments online, always trying to be morally superior. He is fuelling his fetish and persecution complex. I was more sympathetic before him. I'm glad we're no longer friends. The next one was effeminate, but funny and nice. Now he's constantly talking about how horny he is and it's making me uncomfortable. I've been distancing myself. Individuals can sometimes be okay, nice people, on the surface. The ideology poisons them though, and ultimately they have views which are not compatible to mine.

No. 2143802

>>2143747
>>2143659
wow americans are retarded

No. 2143830

>>2143769
How vile. Troon culture is inherently sexual, that's why everyone who troons out becomes obsessed with porn and sex even if they weren't before.

No. 2143845

>>2143747
Average radtwt user

No. 2143877

Troons made me proud in my femininity lol. Let's start by saying that I believe that "gender roles" are bogus stereotypes and logic and I mostly thought about my body like in a neutral way like sure, it exists, it works, that's fine but since a former friend of mine trooned out, without thinking too much about it I started doing "yeah that happens to females" jokes and started talking about exclusive female only experiences around him and that made him seethe so much, it's funny. They know they aren't women but of course they want the others to partecipate in their delusion but once I realize how frail that is, I'm having a blast. I'm immature? A hater? I don't care. One time I was at a party and simply by telling someone that I was feeling nauseous due to my period, at least three people offered me help/medicines and he stood there. They were called both of us "she" but he realized the main difference. I never vocalized my views, I never touched the trans topic and wanted to keep myself crypto to avoid unnecessary arguments I don't have time for that but seeing that man in a dress shutting himself the moment he couldn't insert himself into the topic, made me absolutely euphoric and instead of staying crypto, I decided to play on other people's perception. With my female friends, I talk about female only experience , like periods, hormone problems, pcos (this makes troon seethe even more when you say that's female-exclusive), in general, bathroom talk and since it will be seen as rude and lying to talk over us, he shuts down.
They are so vocal online but they know they are miserable people who don't fit anywhere and their attention needs don't translate offline, especially if they're not american, because the novelty of them being trans quickly fades off or at best people are okay with it, without much celebration or ass kissing. When skirts look flattering on me and on them look like circus tent, it shows. When they wear black lipstick and it outlines their weird, wide, thin lips and looks "right" on me, it shows. When my voice is low in the morning and I don't spend an hour in front of the mirror to "train it" because people know I'm female, it shows. When I exist and they wear a cosplay of me, it shows.
It feels weird and scary, they're literally skincrawlers and they're a horror to look at but realizing that they spend hours only to convince themselves and others that they're representing a woman, it gives me power.

No. 2143901

>>2143895
>Are objectively bad experiences, it's as if you became as delusional as a tranny by glorifying objectively bad experiences.

I never said that they were good. I said that troons can't relate to that. Irl troons are so painfully awkward and autistic, they wont' dare speak over others in topic they don't know shit about because to them even a bad look is a confirmation of them being out place and for them, fitting in is everything. They're not bad experiences, they're experiences, something that happens. You clearly didn't understand the tone of the post.

No. 2143931

>>2143877
your entire post is incredibly based

No. 2143978

>>2143901
>Irl troons are so painfully awkward and autistic, they wont' dare speak over others in topic they don't know shit about
nta, but I fucking wish! They still have their male over-confidence and sperg out on shit thinking they know better than you, especially on topics that are about women or feminism

No. 2143980

>>2143877
Queen nona kek

No. 2144033

>>2143978
This happens alone or with their yesmen friends but since they live off attention and approval, when they know that they can't win around normies/other women (it's better to be like 3-4 women vs 1 troon while pretending he's one of the girls, always works), they shut down and seethe. They know they can't win. Play on that. They get off of being better because they are afraid of other women by simply existing, make your presence the only presence in the room and don't care if you come off as shallow, you have all the right to claim your shit. I claimed long skirts back, troons use long skirts to hide their male thin legs, when I wear them I get a lot of compliments because they fit my figure, with troons it's "yeah, he does that". Don't bite back, show them that you can do better by breathing in their direction when it's crowded, ignore them when you're alone. Always works.

No. 2144053

>>2143901
>Irl troons are so painfully awkward and autistic, they wont' dare speak over others in topic they don't know shit about
I wish. Every troon i met (male,
sometimes female, but especially male) would shout over others then betray their superficial knowledge of certain sensitive subjects. TiMs are very weak so they tend to sob or retreat in silence when feeling muh dysphoric but they never miss an occasion to embarrass themselves in front of women on the topics of feminism/politics/science. We're talking about men after all, it's even worse if they're autistic because then they catch this mysterious superiority complex

No. 2144161

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So many problems with this, I can't even point them all out.

>every time i tried to embody ANY archetype of male […] it felt like being trapped in a perpetual adolescence

Ignoring the fact that he's trying to shove himself into female archetypes now, the solution to this is to grow up and stop trying to fit an "archetype" at all. Archetypes are meant for characters in books and tv shows, not real people.

>I WAS misogynistic (past tense)

>I had to PURGE so much misogyny from my body
>I had to see them as equal
>I do truly see them as individuals and not some monolithic biological assemblage
Reminder that this is yet another man who has not only admitted times to consuming gargantuan quantities of porn, but has also talked about how the huge amount of porn he watches might be fucking him up.

>I couldn't allow myself to love women bc the form I inhabited made me feel inherently creepy

You still inhabit the exact same form, you stupid little creep.

No. 2144743

>>2144161
I seriously hate this faggot. I remember like maybe a year and a half ago, he would post kinda funny comics, then they became only about sex and featuring penises, then he troons out, now all he does is make comics about troons and penises. He's obsessed with drawing penises. This rant you posted makes him look even more creepy and insane.
>Transitioning to make myself feel less creepy is funny because some women will find me WAY MORE creepy.
So close but so far. Women found you creepy before because you looked like an incel and are obsessed with drawing penises. Women found you creepier now that you're skinwalking us (and look EXACTLY LIKE Buffalo Bill) and pretending to be us.
>I do truly see women as individuals and not some monolithic biological assemblage.
In other words, he had to start dressing up "as a woman" and pretending to be a woman to think of women as individuals and not breeding machines. What a fucking freak.
>I tried to embody any archetype of male, be it sensitive, or stoic, or confident, or quiet, it still felt like being trapped in perpetual adolescence.
Maybe because you're a fugly man-child that draws penises all day to post to your troon followers. Seriously, what is it with failmales blaming their failed launches on being men instead of realizing that they're just losers? I also don't think clown was ever "confident" in his life.

No. 2144961

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>>2144161
#1 male feminist!!!1 Don't you want this beautiful soul in the changing room with you?
>>2143978
>>2144033
I've encountered both types, the spergs are literal autists who have zero social norms and peak everyone in a ten mile radius just by existing. There's no helping them, they're only going to get worse.
The troons OP is talking about are the fake shy and sweet kind, the ones who some doormat normies think are women born in the wrong body.
They get off on being treated as one of the girls, what OP is doing is absolutely hilarious because it throws their LARP back in their face.
I've twinned with a troon at a Halloween thing ages ago and it was incredible, I was wearing the same ugly outfit he was in and kept shoving myself in photos with my bestie girlie twinsie and giggling about how we were soooo identical, two peas in a pod. You could actually see the gendies there dying inside when they saw us. I know that the troon I went with stopped roleplaying as a kawiwi clumsy lolichan, then made some insane 'I'm a woman even if I don't pass' posts before going offline and working from home for months.
It works because you're not giving them the ebil terf reaction they want. You're being a fun and supportive bestie who sees no difference between cis and trans women. Remember, they get off on convincing themselves that they can intimidate actual women by being more of a woman than we are. When you force them to face their bullshit, they don't know what to do. I mean obviously they have meltdowns, but they can't get past the knowledge that their clothes and makeup look so different on a real woman. They have to face the possibility that their yes men are lying. For the first time in their lives, their male confidence has been shaken, and it's a terrible, life-changing event.

No. 2145000

>>2144961
I know exactly what you’re talking about with the fake shy uwuwu lolichan troons and I think I hate those even more than the overtly creepy AGPs. At least the obvious Buffalo Bill types creep everyone out and the only reason anyone plays along with those is because they’re afraid that he’ll chimp out and punch them, not because they think he’s harmless. The uguu~ shrinking violet types actually manage to trick some women into lowering their guard around them despite the fact that they’re just as misogynistic and dangerous as the Buffalo Bills. Face to face they put on this performance of hiding behind their hair and being shy little innocent anime girls but then they pick up their phone and tweet about wanting to horrifically SA women like JKR and putting her body through a woodchipper. Horror movie shit.

No. 2145026

>>2144961
>fake shy and sweet kind
Those can be spergs aswell but i see what you mean. I loathe them because they act just like the lowliest simps, orbiting women in hopes of sex/AGPfuel moments, pouncing when a woman they fancy feels down or seems likely to be too nice to them. They're very likely to engage in fake misandry, they'll hone their weak sensitive male persona and devalue other men (ugly moid tactics). I know being nice to them fulfills their 'teehee girlie best friends at a sleepover' delusion so i don't even touch that, but you're correct, there's potential for laughs if they're self-aware enough. I don't coddle them whenever they ask 'am i not a woman?' after i casually bring up women as a group. I keep deflecting or ignoring their pleas to be treated like one of the girls, in part because lying this much is painful and in part because it's hilarious to see them flail afterwards. They eventually get that i don't think of them as women but they're too committed to their nice simp bit to confront me.
One troon i knew who was totally the 'fake nice' type kept getting burned by normie women and men misgendering him in our presence. He'd sob in public if someone talked or joked about certain aspects of male biology (kekkk). He'd vent about not being able to go on with life anymore after a misgendering incident even though he was smirking when getting compliments for his passing days before. They're so fucking weak, all it takes to hurt them is acting normal and relaxed.
>the troon I went with stopped roleplaying as a kawiwi clumsy lolichan, then made some insane 'I'm a woman even if I don't pass' posts before going offline and working from home for months.
KEKKKKKKKKK

No. 2145041

>>2144961
My issue with this is that most troons are agp and passing is of no issue to them as long as people pretend they pass even though they look like a hulking ogre in a tutu skirt. So you better make sure what kind of troon it is before attempting this or they'll see you as a source of validation and will bother you every second they can. But if you're at a party with them like you were then you probably know them well enough to tell already.

Also I fucking love little britain kek

No. 2145369

Some guy I know trooned out and now he'll literally comment shit about wanting his boobies to grow (disgusting) out of nowhere and his entire life revolves around talking about his tranny shit or updates on it in general even though no one else asked. I make fun of him with my mom like he's our personal lolcow and recently even my aunt joined in. He's so ugly it gives me a jumpscare unironically every time I see his face, and most people I know are talking shit behind his back but still pretending they support him on the surface so they don't get cancelled.

No. 2145370

>>2145369
>still pretending they support him on the surface so they don't get cancelled.
I'm excited for the day when public opinion finally turns against troons. Before 2027 there's gonna be a total reversal in how they're seen by the mainstream. We can already see this happening in smaller ways. The thing is, they're all so fucked up and creepy, and now that some are getting famous they have to try and reel that back which is impossible. The more famous troons are caught doing fucked up shit, the more and more people will peak. Look at what happened when that Hunter from Euphoria troon posted the weird notebook diary schizo-rambles. It's gonna be like that on a wide-scale.

No. 2145379

>>2144161
If you're at the point where you need to reassure a group of people at length that you TOTALLY don't mean them any harm like "no no, I USED to hate you all for existing, but then I realised you were actual humans! Please let me into your house!" Then you've already failed spectacularly kek

No. 2145384

>>2145370
I do feel a bit more hopeful lately that the tide is turning, there's also been the Chris Tyson fiasco too with him being a popular tranny outed for being a pedophile and how people reacted when MoistCritikal, a big youtuber, defended child transitioning (he got backlash for it).
I'm kinda getting tired of waiting since I peaked years ago though and it sucks how my whole youth has been filled with having to see trannies and support for this shit everywhere. The one positive thing about it is it unironically made me feel closer to my family because I can talk to my mom and other relatives and none of them believe this bullshit, while online it's just tranny handmaidens and their supporters. It made me actually reconnect with people irl because I'm sick of how popular this is especially on the internet.

No. 2145389

>>2144743
> Why do they blame their failures on being men?
Well, you see, it can't POSSIBLY be their fault because they're just so rational and strong and cool kek

No. 2145484

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>>2144743
>then he troons out, now all he does is make comics about troons and penises
seriously, what is up with that? I didn't know of this faggot before these threads, and I'm amazed at how he's not even willing to drop the erect dick constantly in frame shtick even when attempting these shitty "I'm 14 and this is deep" comics (or is it meant to be funny? hard to tell since it's neither). Is this just an obvious overcompensation considering he's probably packing peanuts or does this grown 30 year old man genuinely still think a penis is the peak of comedy? so much for escaping the perpetual adolescence of manhood and growing up as a true and honest woman…

No. 2145529

>>2143119
>I also need you to know that countless anons have had a "good troon friend" […] We'd swear he was one of the good ones, "not like other troons" - but slowly you realize he's been a massive coomer the whole time, that he has a porn addiction and he trooned out because of the fetishes, suddenly you see him saying sexist shit you swore he would never say. And once it hits you in retrospect you're able to spot all the little signs for it.
My experience wasn't 1 to 1 because he was a full gaylord, but that's precisely why I hate seeing women give gay men a pass because they think they're safer than le cishet macho man. Nothing hurts more after having that realization than looking back on all the little signs and giving it a pass because of naïveté, because it feels like you got played. It just gets worse if you stick around and try to balance your friendship with the pandoras box of shit in the MTF thread, because you will constantly be thinking about what else lurks beneath the surface. Or get lulled into complacency until you remind yourself or your friend does something to make you remember just how bad it can get and how common it actually is.

No. 2145637

>>2145484
He either has a micropenis or he's deep in the closet kek, the average straight man is not THAT obsessed with dicks.

No. 2145641

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>>2133445
>>2133446
HMMMMMMMM GEE I WONDER WHY

No. 2145671

>>2128669
In the patreon/donator shoutout at the end there was the name of some moid that tried to reach out to me from the friend finder thread. Why are men donating to radfem youtubers?
>>>/g/383552

No. 2145850

>>2142475
rash fire was insurance fraud

No. 2146480

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>Let's be miserable together.

No. 2147486

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>>2145384
Just wait for 'How to Be Successful as a Yotuber' tutorials to include 'people you should never hire: • trannies'.

No. 2147943

>>2142797
I had a handful of troon friends in high school, all TIFs. I had to interact with TIFs a lot in general because I was involved in the drama program (which I later left because people accused me of being "bigoted" without proof). All of them were mentally ill in their own ways and I don't talk to them anymore, they all became unbearable. Now that I'm in college, I'm friends with one TIF who kind of considers herself akin to a gay Victorian man or whatever. She is a little annoying in that aspect but is otherwise funny and smart, we share a lot of niche interests, and we aren't extremely close so I see no reason to end our friendship. She does have a hulking, ugly TIM friend that she introduced me to once, but I treated him very stiffly and tried to ignore him as much as possible.

No. 2148061

>>2145370
>still pretending they support him on the surface so they don't get cancelled.
This phenomenon is called "preference falsification," and it's where most of the "support" for troons comes from. People don't publicly support this trash because they want to, they do it because they fear the lynch mobs trannies cook up against anyone who opposes them. Or at the very least, they fear losing friendships and other types of relationships with people who still buy into the public myths and haven't peaked yet. Unfortunately, I include myself in this group, because the industry I work in is completely captured and I would lose my job if I publicly said, "it's wrong to chemically sterilize minors because they deviate from gender stereotypes and are uncomfortable with puberty."

No. 2148107

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Ever notice how popular South Park is with TiFs, despite its creators have 10x nastier opinions on troons than JKR? Inch resting.

No. 2148113

>>2148107
It’s because they don’t actually watch South Park, they just watch clips of it online and read fanfics. There’s a good chance that they have never even heard of those episodes.

No. 2148114

>>2133445
Trender is the new LUG kek

No. 2148123

>>2148113
I find that pretty unlikely. Their episode about troons in womens' sports was only a few years ago, and all the faggy outlets like Them and PinkNews had headlines about it. There's no way they don't know. They just hold people they like (particularly moids) to different standards.

No. 2148125

>>2148107
I've seen some of them say that the episodes are misinterpreted and actually making fun of transphobes somehow

No. 2148131

>>2148107
>>2148113
Or look at emo fanart on twitter (also made by gendies who don't watch the show)

No. 2148150

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>>2148125
That is such cope omg. In the commentary, Matt jokingly says something along the lines of how he's a "black Denver bronco trapped in the wrong body." They very clearly think that the "trapped in the wrong body" line is retarded. I've seen people bring up the fact that Trey almost quit the show during the making of that episode, but they intentionally omit the fact that it had nothing to do with the subject matter of the episode. Trey ended up staying because he liked Matt's idea for having Gerald be a trans-species dolphin.

Also, the fact that Cartman sides with "Heather Swanson" (the trans athlete who is just Randy Savage) at the end of "Board Girls" is a pretty strong indicator that Matt and Trey think troons are in the wrong. 9/10 times, if Cartman is on someone's side, they're doing something shitty that he stands to benefit from personally. Also, even the PC Babies end up forgiving PC Principal for siding against "Heather," at the end.

No. 2148227

>>2148123
there are lots of ftms on tumblr and probably elsewhere who engage in this bizarre larp where they bawww about knowing theyre a girl deep down but at the same time they stick to gender ideology as rigidly as anyone if anyone gender critical dares to say that nothing's wrong with them.

theyre like simultaneously being actually honest for once but also caching it as larping as "represser males" or something? its very confusing.

made much worse by the fact that they all orbit & worship these "ftm punisher" type accounts that bully them cartoonishly about really being girls and never being able to be men no matter how much they want to be.

these accounts - which are supposedly males, but really are probably also ftms - can say literally whatever, say trans isnt real, say theyre pathetic failed women who take testosterone to cope, etc, but as soon as a normal woman appears and is like "it's okay to accept that you're a woman" they snap back into full gender robot kill all terfs mode. its SO weird.

No. 2148441

>>2145637
>the average straight man is not THAT obsessed with dicks.
honestly most straight men I know won't shut up about dicks, be it by making jokes about their pals having small dicks and they have a big one and generally caring more about the size of their dick than any woman, saying "suck my dick" constantly to their bros, posting random black men with massive dicks and that's the "joke", drawing dicks in random places, and so on. even straight men just feel like faggots to me for this reason.

No. 2148450

>>2148107
To be honest, JKR is doing something. While South Park is just making fun of everyone and everything. JKR is a feminist and a woman. She wrotes Harry Potter but it's irrelevant. It just made her a woman with an audience and that cannot be easily silenced. So it makes sense for them to hate her. While the two scrotes hiding behind South Park are excused by being le edgy male making le epic joke.

No. 2148557

>>2148107
tbf none of them actually watch south park

No. 2148581

>>2148227
Right, it's really odd. Maybe the ftm punisher shit and 'muuuuhuh i'm just a dysphoric AAP butch radfem repper!!' talk is their cowardly way of self-reflecting safely. Since it comes from themselves or equally neurotic troons, there's no edge to the criticism. They can pre-empt the blow by absorbing criticism and turning it into irony. Receiving the same criticism at a moment where they don't expect it hits harder and forces them to look at themselves in a harsh light. They hate it because too much of this would make them realize their 'dysphoria' isn't really a thing and that they need to stop their bullshit. It's also a masochistic outlet, of course, once again a way to cope with their self-inflicted misery in unhealthy, unproductive ways (coom)

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No. 2148831

>>2148827
hes so quirky! so mento ill and silly! tehee

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>>2148827
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_works_based_on_dreams
he only has a wikipedia page because he's some IT dude kek

No. 2148836

>>2148834
but when I do crazy shit no one cares

No. 2148880

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>>2148107
I find it funny how they can handle blows at every single group except for trannies kek. Obviously this episode (Mr. Garrison’s Fancy New Vagina) is much more harsh than alot of other episodes but it just goes to show how troons are the ultra-protected group that is more important than every other minority, because troons tend to be narcissistic males. South park had an episode where cartman pretended to be a woman to go into the women’s bathroom, but got his own special bathroom instead. Like another anon said, Cartman tends to side with the troons which is a major sign south park is putting them in a negative light. It’s so obvious that matt and trey view trannies negatively. Of course they get less shit for it than JKR because they’re male.

No. 2148901

>>2148827
He looks like he eats children.disgusting greasy shithead

No. 2148926

Anyone ever wonder why troons are also usually always gay? You never see "straight" troons except for like, Blaire White. Speaking of, what do we think of troons like Blaire White?

No. 2148928

>>2148926
dont you mean troons are always straight?

No. 2148935

>>2148928
Kek yeah, but seriously most mtfs are transbians and most ftms like men, honestly don't understand why that is.

No. 2148936

>>2148926
the "straight" HSTS used to be the default type with very little AGPs in the mix, multiple factors changed the demographics

No. 2148972

>>2148926
Hello, just-peaked newfag.

No. 2148975

>>2148926
>Gay
I think you mean troonbians

No. 2148977

>>2148935
Hint: it's because most men are straight and so are most women.

No. 2148978

>>2148834
Data analytics is marketing for men and fraught with bs

No. 2148988

>>2148926
Lurk moar, please. Most troons are AGP simply because there are more straight people than gay people, and trooning started to become trendy with straights about ten years ago.

No. 2149015

There's a book posted some threads ago and it was some type of recompilation of women interacting with troons (I think the book might be called "you told me you were different" or something, by an indie radfem editor) and one of the stories mentioned how out of 9 troons she interacted with, the only nice/good one was a HSTS gay man that still acknowledged his biological reality and knew he's transexual without forcing his identity as a "woman". There's a famous trans celeb where I live and he's also someone that knows he's a man without putting himself in the same category as a woman. But he got in a controversy because of that because the current woke narrative is to always validate all transexuals as women. But by woke logic this would also be a valid identity. So I don't get it. I think men that still know they're men without acting schizo about their larp are more tolerable than uwupuppytranswiminuwu in any case. I'm not saying they're better, just more tolerable.

No. 2149020

>>2149015
they are more tolerable, they still should accept that they are flaming fags though. nothing wrong with being a flaming fag

No. 2149169

>>2149020
Most hsts I met were pretty narcissistic, misogynistic, in some cases violent (maybe because I'm from a shitty part of town), and overtly sexual.

I feel like it has to do with american culture encouraging this type of behavior but to me lady boys from Thailand seem chill. Most gay trannies here get butthurt if u point out they're just fags in makeup but every video I've seen of lady boys they seem way more ok with themselves and the fact that they're men who like crossdressing. I don't have a problem with that but I have not met a single hsts like that in america

Can any Thai nonas let me know if lady boys r really as chill as they seem or is it just me being desperate to believe a good tranny exists lol

No. 2149176

>>2148926
Blaire white is very misogynistic and is a pick me for conservative men. He wants to be seen as the only one true tranny while he shits on equally delusional men from his community. I feel like alot of women like him because he calls out pedos and AGPs but he still looks down on women and so clearly jealous of us. But the bar is literally in hell for men. Women will accept so much bullshit from a man even if he spews disgusting hateful things against us

No. 2149329

>>2149176
what i wonder is why do they all take women's names, even the edgy "not like other troons" troons? why cant they just still be named michael or andrew…i know the answer is that its a fetish larp in all cases but still, how does "being who you are" involve changing your name one way or the other…

maybe the better question is, how are there literally none whose fetish involves wearing women's clothes but still having a male name? that seems like an obvious "humiliation" type thing but i've literally never seen a single one like that.

No. 2149530

>>2143119
>I also need you to know that countless anons have had a "good troon friend" who seemed like an innocent confused autist who may or may not be a bit gay. We'd swear he was one of the good ones, "not like other troons" - but slowly you realize he's been a massive coomer the whole time, that he has a porn addiction and he trooned out because of the fetishes, suddenly you see him saying sexist shit you swore he would never say. And once it hits you in retrospect you're able to spot all the little signs for it. You realize he was using you for validation all along, you were part of the fetish larp.
This this this. I never truly thought of troons as women, but I used to think they were mostly just shy sensitive men who cared too much what other people thought of them. I met a lot of them through a TTRPG group I used to be in and every single one turned out to be a creep who thought being female was a privilege and that women who didn't coddle them enough or have sex with them were oppressing them. The mindset that creates troons is exactly the same as the mindset that creates incels and MRAs.

No. 2149533

>>2148834
This does not warrant being mentioned on Wikipedia ffs.

No. 2149551

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So you agree? You agree that it's cosmetic? A cosmetic procedure which insurance shouldn't cover?

No. 2149554

>>2149551
Why's a fucking soulless ginger faggot giving his two (worthless) cents on surgery aimed at women

No. 2149563

>>2149554
Maybe it's a TiF?

No. 2149585

>>2148834
>>2148827
Jesus, that's disgusting.

No. 2149618

>>2143877
If anything, it made me proud of my GNCness. I never shaved but I would usually cover my legs, now I bear my ‘hairy’ legs to the world. Even if they’re not hairless, put my leg next to the one of a waxed tim’s and my leg will still be the obviously female one. Even when wearing clothes from the men’s section, I am female and not trying. I live in a area with a lot of troons and it’s the best feeling to walk past a HSTS that kills his body over trying to pass, even with all the makeup on his face and his waist trainer cinched to the max, I am female and not trying. I could shave my head and I’ll still be more female than him. He wastes his time and money on beauty labor that I’ll never give into because I’m already female and there’s no use of buying into that. I was in line in a restroom at a formal event, I was waiting behind a giant hon in a skimpy cocktail dress and heels that made him stand out like a sore thumb. I was wearing a tuxedo, he was staring at me from the mirror with rage in his eyes. It’s not a matter of women looking good in both masculine and feminine fashion, it’s that he could wear the same outfit and it wouldn’t communicate that he’s supposed to be a woman. I wear clothing that was designed for him and there’s no question of whether I belong in the women’s restroom. It’s the bane of his existence. I hate the term GNC because it’s my natural state, but I used it for the lack of a better term.

No. 2149642

>>2149618
>>2143877
Seeing how neurotic they are over meaningless crap like clothes and body hair made me feel so much better about just… being myself, and not having to overthink anything. I'm a woman no matter what I wear, or whether I put on makeup, or what hobbies I have. I'm not super stereotypically feminine, but I'm not GNC, either. I'm just kind of average, I suppose, and I'm okay with that.

I've also realized how these people try so hard to be special, but they end up all being the same as each other. It quickly made me realize how childish the pursuit of uniqueness is. People should spend less time worrying about being different or special and more time doing shit they enjoy and being good to the people in their lives. Genderism seems to attract a lot of people who are unhealthily obsessed with what others think, be it because they're narcissists, teenagers being teenagers, or compensating for their own low-self-esteem. I'm past the point of caring whether people think I'm "boring," or a "Becky" or a "Karen," or whatever other crap they cook up to denigrate women.

No. 2149666

came across someone's profile that had a meme that said "terfs are not safe here, get lost" with some cartoon blob pointing… and i laugh because these are the people with the most thinnest skin imaginable. not safe? what's gonna happen… some autismo screeching fest? kek. they're so dense

No. 2149720

>>2149551
>"who cares you're only cutting off female organs"
bleak

No. 2149728

>>2149618
Funny how all we have to do to rock their entire worldview off balance is to… wear clothes. In female designed clothes we look too womanly, in male clothes they accentuate how we aren't male but actually female. They always seethe in jealousy.
It reminds me of how the oppressive islamist parts of the world where women are made to cover up more and more until all they're allowed to wear is a fully black sheet covering their entire body… if troons had their way it would be the same, only troons would be allowed to wear female clothes and women would have to hide themselves to not upset them

No. 2149770

>>2149618
>>2143877
I feel the same as both of you, it makes me proud to be a woman, no matter what I wear. Us women have something special males can never have, only crudely mimic, and it makes them seethe.

No. 2149867

>>2134608
A little late to the party but I wanted to ask: when you say "make the account", does this mean you need proof of some social media presence to apply, or are you just referring to the application itself? I want to know if I have to dig up some old socmed accounts for this.
>>2149770
NGL, makes me happy to see nonnas take pride in themselves and make troons seethe while doing so apparently kek, all the better.

No. 2150026

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>>2141351
Sorry troons and other misogynists, JKR was just on holiday and now she has returned to post terve tweets.

No. 2150051

>>2149551
i hate how these retards call everyone who disagrees with them nazis. you need some real fucking nazis in your life, "colby gordon", because clearly you have no idea what you're talking about. nazis destroy cities, rape and murder. they don't argue about titchops on twitter. being against cutting off healthy body parts has nothing to do with nazism. stupid piece of shit white westerner. get some real problems for once in your life

No. 2150071

>>2148926
He can be entertaining and I prefer him to the average trans person since he actually calls out pedophiles and shitty people in his own community, isn't supportive of kids transitioning, doesn't agree with placing trannies in women's sports and defended JK Rowling's "transphobia" several times. A lot of his more conservative takes don't allign with me at all but I don't hate him compared to the terrible agp trannies I usually see in my own circles, he's far more tolerable to listen to even if I still think he could've just been a gay man that dresses in a feminine way and the trans LARP isn't necessary at all. If most trannies were like him we wouldn't have as many problems but regardless he still has his faults since the concept of being trans is inherently flawed and regressive.

No. 2150077

>>2150071
I want to add that even back when I hadn't peaked I'd pretty much only listen to him and not the extremely retarded, more lefty troons (agps and others who support the crazier types of lunacy and shut any type of discourse down) so I think he's a decent gateway into showing someone a trans person that doesn't have those opinions, just in case they're still worried about "being transphobic".

With trannies like him it's also like, at least you can have your own opinion and he wouldn't want you killed which is better than 99% of trannies who unironically want you jailed for existing and having "thought crimes"

No. 2150240

>>2148926
>Anyone ever wonder why troons are also usually always gay? You never see "straight" troons except for like, Blaire White.
About 80-90% of troons are straight, meaning they pretend to be lesbians when they troon out. The 10-20% gay men who troon out pretend to be straight women who are into men. It just mirrors the general population of men, the majority of men are straight - with an over-representation of gay men trooning out due to homophobia.

No. 2150255

>>2150071
I think Blaire is great for peaking woke people and people who are kinda on the line of not knowing where to stand on the trans stuff. He's backpedaled a lot for the better, for example he used to use the women's bathroom but has since claimed he doesn't do that anymore (idk if I believe him but at least then his public stance is for troons not to use it), he's admitted to being a male using trans to cope with his mental illness of "dysphoria", and that it's not the same as being a biological woman. While I strongly believe "there are no good troons" is true, he's a good stepping stone as woke people will absolutely not hear anyone out out of fear, unless it's coming directly from "oppressed" people.

I can honestly see him stop identifying as trans in the future by switching to just calling himself a feminine gay man with body modifications, when the trans tides turn.

No. 2150499

>>2149666
I love when my followers say shit like that. They have no idea they're following one of the evil terven. Literally all it does is teach cryptos to have side accounts for GC stuff and mains for fandom shit.

No. 2150505

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No. 2150593

bro i just started uni, i'm in the cs honors program and tell me why my professor is a tranny, this is the first time i saw one irl. he's actually smart too like he has a phd from a top school, a wife and two kids, why do they do it??? if i was a white man i'd be so rich. anyways i'm probably going to drop his class ngl

No. 2150618

>>2150593
Does he do that ugly tranny voice?

No. 2150624

>>2148935
It's because most men are straight and most women are straight. It's the same reason for TIFs and why they chase after the gay men, although much less apparent.

No. 2150630

>>2148926
It's their fault if this trans BS got this big , they were the trojan horses of this movement. If the face of gender ideology would have been 50 year old AGPs who where abandoning their families to chase their fetish everyone would have called it bullshit.

No. 2150648

>>2144743
The funniest thing is that he actually looks like buffalo bill.

No. 2150658

>>2142866
Damn, I'm not american and I've only seen 4 TIMs, a TIF in my whole life and I know a NB man. Is it that rampant over there?

No. 2150718

>>2141575
No it isn't kek.

No. 2150775

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A troon wrote this, I just know it.

No. 2150780

>>2150775
source: my ass

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>>2150775
Oh my god they're being transphobic to plants! What if my male zucchini wanted to be a female one? Fascist botantists!!

No. 2151286

With the recent ruling in Tickle v Giggle, I wonder if the only way women could legally gather in Australia without a male presence would be a tif only meetup. Not Australian, but I wonder if you could get away with allowing only "transmascs" in a group. They'd definitely be fine with "transfems" only, but they might be biased against women gathering, even actual tifs. I wonder if you could exploit a loophole involving tif only meetups and how long it would last before men start clamoring to force themselves into that too. Funny how despite hating biological sex and claiming it's not real, they always seem to know who to treat like dog shit. Aside from that, women can't really have anything without men trying to get in. The only thing we have is the time-honored female tradition of pretending to be a man so you get to be treated like an actual human being by others. It only really works in limited application though, like on image boards or anywhere where people can't see or hear you. Even pretending to be a man will be fetishized and appropriated by tims though. They would probably treat it like their weird gross boymoder copium and start cooming to wearing pants. Despite being labeled an autosexuality, autogynephilia requires continuous observation of real women and continuous escalating violation of their boundaries. Tims are not truly attracted to themselves, they are attracted to the control and boundary violation as well as the voyeuristic thrill of watching women in an environment of privacy and vulnerability. If all women became tifs, the agps would begin to imitate them, would likely even get implants just to experience the thrill of chopping them off. It sucks, because it feels like there's no escape. Every door is slammed in your face. Even desexualizing yourself is sexualized. They're constantly trying to watch women and get off to them in increasingly violating ways and when they catch you trying to escape it, they become enraged and want to punish you. Literally patriarchy on steriods.

No. 2151318

>>2149618
Same nonna. I work with a TIM and I love showing up to work with short hair, no makeup, and unshaved legs, mogging him in every way. He has to spend an hour dilating his fauxgina every morning, the another hour putting on makeup after that. I can burp loudly, curse, scratch my armpits, do every single “unladylike” thing in existence in front of him, and it doesn’t make me any less of a woman. I hope it makes him seethe.

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>>2150775
Okay, I get it, chromosomes don't define gender because they define SEX which is more important than gender because gender is a grammatical category that should be respected as well, because in a space of arbitrary concepts, we need some basis that have to be respected which is
>male is a man
>female is a woman
Why? Because if grammar becomes something completely disregarded, which is considered a lesser category already by how people use words in the most retarded ways, then what's next?
Like, see? Words have meanings and everyone is using those meanings as ballsack polish because it's easy to say
>language is fluid uwhuh, I should be allowed to use words however I want!!!
But nothing is respected at all and you have people calling randos "they" when it's a single person, laughing about it because why the fuck not?
I don't care if I seem schizo at this point but this whole shitshow began with people being asked to be referred to by their "preferred" pronouns because everyone believes that words are something you can just mix and match like an outfit, when in reality they're more than that, words are part of our reality and how we describe things, without words we wouldn't be able to form concepts, the problem is that changing a conceptual reality wasn't enough because it doesn't change the actual reality which is: you can't change who you are by being referred to differently.
So then gendies moved to trying to change the physical reality and now we have people regreting getting their organs mangled and their hormones fucked because they all thought that a conceptual reality was real, because everyone thought that words don't really have a deeper meaning and that they're just a decoration that you can just take on or take off whenever you want to.
This is why we have people being confused by something that everyone is taught at primary school, because it really is so easy to just say a new concept
>sex is actually how your genitals feel, if you're aroused in a manly way then you're a man and if you're aroused in a feminine way then you're a woman!
>gender is when you don't want to do the dishes because women are taught to do the dishes, if you're a woman and you don't want to do the dishes you're a man, if you're a man and you don't want to do the dishes, you're actually just a woman that's being oppressed by patriarchy and you're rebelling!
It's so insane how words can just make people believe in the most stupid shit, it almost makes me want to kill myself but I need to see how all of this is going to end.

No. 2151355

>>2148107
Exactly the same attitude as religious folks, men can do whatever but if a woman steps out of line, it’s WW3

No. 2151374

>>2150593
Don’t, even if he’s gross. If you do, it just validates his sissy ass that real women can’t thrive in CS

No. 2151379

>>2151286
It’s so dystopian, I feel like women will have to become violent. At least be bitchy. All demographics of women should shun these freaks. I feel like only some WOC and immigrants can repeal the troop for some time.

No. 2151396

any assertion from tras that sex doesn't exist or is otherwise a "spectrum" is so weird and dissonant is that the word i want to me when placed against their love of terms like "cis". like you obviously know that sex exists, else you wouldn't demand actual women call themselves that. i vaguely remember some troon on /lgbt/ saying he was "chemically a woman" because his estrogen levels matched up with a woman's, wtf.

No. 2151405

>>2150775
>sex doesn't tell you gender
exactly! it's societly that "tells" you gender based on your sex. they're so close yet so far away

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>>2151286
i don't understand how its discrimination based on gender identity if the app does not detect your ideology. your gender identity is irrelevant and you can identify as anything as long as you are not of the male sex, i'm sure the mods would also not gaf if you were a female identifying as kikomi trubiotrans. tbh we aren't even allowed to do art exhibitions that are mildly male exclusionary here (MONA in tasmania) so it's a consistent misogynistic political trend here

No. 2151486

>>2150051
Nazis would love the highly experimental and unnecessary surgeries the troons are being subjected to. I dunno how they read other trannies surgery horror stories, see the awful results and think the actual nazis are the people against the butchering. And let's not even talk about who pushes that narrative: actually racist white men. We've gone a long way since they called us "feminazi" for having an opinion huh?

No. 2151534

Never asked before anywhere, but can't help to think of something potential:
I recently came across the term 'bacha posh' which basically means in some middle eastern countries, select girls are raised as boys until adolescence. For families with multiple girls (applies to anywhere in the world), if one of them is a tif and the non-tif sister is raised as a boy what would potentially happen? For the world organizations to claim trans rights wouldn't this be ironic?

No. 2151553

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>>2151534
Picrel is a great movie that explores the practice in depth. It's super depressing though.

No. 2151572

>>2151379
Unfortunately women, more specifically handmaidens, play a huge role in the support of troons. If we could be like men, who don’t give a fuck about affirming them and supporting them, TIMs would act like TIFs and have no power over lesbians and in general other women.

No. 2151578

>>2151486
>Nazis would love the highly experimental and unnecessary surgeries the troons are being subjected to.
ITAYRT, exactly, how could i forget the first ever womb transplant on a tranny he died btw was done by a nazi surgeon who was involved with freezing experiments on concentration camp prisoners during ww2
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erwin_Gohrbandt
>In 1931, Gohrbandt, with Ludwig Levy-Lenz, was one of the first surgeons to perform sex reassignment surgery with vaginoplasty on some transgender patients - a pioneering experimental achievement at the time. Known by name are the patients Dora Richter, a domestic worker at the Institute for Sexology under Magnus Hirschfeld, and the Danish artist Lili Elbe.
>According to Bernd Luther, he participated in the development of the "freezing experiments" conducted on prisoners of the Dachau concentration camp.[5][verification needed] On October 26 and 27 of 1942 at Deutscher Hog Hotel, Nuremberg, Gohrbandt participated in a secret conference during which Sigmund Rascher and Georg August Weltz spoke on topics related to the freezing experiments.

No. 2151627

Saw someone tweeting about the Gruffin girl who died. She was buried on July 31st, that's JKRs birthday. What a sick twist of fate that the terfs were right about you dying from transition, and then your family buries your dead body on the big terf queens birthday, oof(this is an imageboard)

No. 2151652

>>2151286
Tbh if you have a woman's only group in a rural area (very large portions of the country is rural) that's not too close to a city you could get away with not allowing TIMs. I used to actually go to women's only groups until maybe a year and a half ago for reasons I won't get into and never seen a TIM in them or even try to join one, only TIFs and I don't think that's going to change in a hurry just because of this court case. Most of the TIMs seem to congregate in the cities or those weird tourist pockets like the Byron Shire. It's a bit different to the situation in America because as soon as you leave the major cities people don't really care, and you still legally can exclude TIPs from the opposite sex's sports groups etc. I've also seen a lot of normies and normie family members be absolutely disgusted with the outcome of Tickle v Giggle although I don't know if that means much.
Australia is also right on the edge of a catastrophic recession so I don't think troonism is really going to be able to dig its claws like it has elsewhere because everyone is going to be concerned with actual issues.
Also putting on my tinfoil hat for a second, I think the case winning was indirectly cased by a CIA psyop because the ammendments to the discrimination act that allowed the case to win was made by Gillard who was a massive American bootlicker and maybe this was all a smoke screen to distract the population from whats going on in the CIA bases, we're not a progressive country at all and gay marriage was legalised only eight years ago so it's weird that the thing that less people agreed with was allowed first. There's so many retarded psyops going on in my country already that I'm willing to believe it.

No. 2151673

I'm pissed that women who are socially awkward, adhd, add, autistic, whichever else, have fallen into the gendie shit. Now if you turn out to be an autist woman into vidya, shows, movies, art, then you must follow the insane gender propaganda that mainly TIMs benefit from and going against it results in witch hunts or doxxing. women who are odd finally had spaces to be themselves and yet they're put against each other because of internalized misogynies or fetish for gay men, lesbian women, hating themselves. I'm just so tired of it. So many of these women are 20-30 without a realization it benefits men most. Men always side with themselves regardless of tranny status so they'll laugh at a blue haired TIF together. Women somehow always pit each other against one another even if one party has no reason to hurt the other.

No. 2151708

>>2151652
Yall act like trannies are 50% of population smh. Its like 1000 women for one tran, yall cant handle it?

No. 2151713

Samefag, I mean, if you really want to, you can just have a meeting and thats it. Its not enough troons for all of yall, calm down.

No. 2151725

>>2150775
kek yeah I'm sure whichever German moid discovered the X and Y chromosomes in the 19th century or whatever was really concerned about twanzphobia

No. 2151735

>>2142797
They're not my friends, but acquaintances hanging around the same hobbyist circles.
>A HSTS hon TIM who is clearly a degenerate and has an annoying personality but is harmless enough to ignore
>A transbian AGP who is very clearly autistic and abused as a child and has a buffalo bill-esque obsession with lesbians, really creepy but ultimately harmless and is fairly respectful towards women
>Three stealth TIFs who honestly pass pretty well, don't care about tranny discourse and just live out their lives as functional members of society
>A grating as fuck nonbinary woman who at nearly 30 is in arrested development stuck at 13 in all the worst ways possible
To be fair I've met my fair share of really insane troons so I'm not at all a stranger to them but they're basement dwellers who barely go outside, so their effect on my life is next to nothing. I'm always baffled at anons who seem to be surrounded by perverted TIMs at all times because I live in a big liberal city yet barely come across any trannies, male or female. Some weird she/theys who sort of identify as "genderfluid" but sort of don't pop up every now and then but actual "trans people" tend to be rare. I don't hate trannies either, I used to when I was consooming doomposting about them day in day out in around 2019 but now I don't really care anymore besides cringing at them and occasionally ranting when I'm pushed over the line. It helps that at least where I live trans shit has somewhat gone out of fashion and spicy straights who whine about being oppressed by le gays have taken their place, and GC circles being overtaken by homophobic conservatives and right wingers really makes me less willing to associate with them.

No. 2151760

>>2150775
>The folks
Sex chromosomes were discovered by a woman, Nettie Stevens. I’m so sick of women’s accomplishments being erased.

No. 2151763

>>2151708
Did you read my post? I thought I heavily implied that most people are apathetic at most positive about trannies and that's its not really a big deal or worry. Also if you live in the city its not the trannies kicking up shit most of the time, its the fucking Greens being retarded as per usual.

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>>2150775
>>2151760
>put out a memo strongly objecting to sex chromosome leading to transphobia blah blah
KEK yes i'm sure that's exactly what she was thinking about in the year 1905

No. 2151775

>>2151768
Clearly a American woman must have discovered it so some mentally ill intersex German (who was genetically male anyways iirc) two years in the future couldn't transition duhh. Every woman has a psychic ability to kill trans people in the future.

No. 2151965

>>2151572
Moreso that TIMs can use as basis to start calling themselves women

No. 2151973

>>2151553
I mean trooning or self-id vs familial imposition on gender roles, like a tif daughter who isn't the bacha posh/chosen to be raised as male would be jealous of her sister who is chosen to be raised as male. This is it talked about on the internet at all, when I came across a radfem discussion about girls raised as boys

No. 2151974

>This is it
This isn't*

No. 2152072

>>2151627
She even did a mocking video about saying "terra warned me about the dangers of the surgery but I won and I was right". The one who laughs last…

No. 2152221

>>2151708
>Yall act like trannies are 50% of population smh. Its like 1000 women for one tran, yall cant handle it?
One single troon has the potential to harm hundreds of women on the daily. If he goes into the women's changing room EVERY female in there now has now had their privacy invaded and is at risk from him. And voyerism is a crime in of itself. Every single woman he meets he demands her free-speech is taken away, that she's not allowed to complain about him and she must call him "woman" and "she/her". It doesn't matter if there's only 1 troon per 1000 women, he will hurt them all just by existing in their space. There's only one dictator per country and they still rule by fear and tyranny, the number is irrelevant.

No. 2152386

>>2152221
Nonnie don't reply to that troon, just report

No. 2152445

will tifs ever wake up and realize nobody cares about them, outside of using them as scapegopes and "proof" that tranny shit doesn't ultimately just benefit males? has a tif ever blown up in the way tims blow up (hunter, that 'days of being a girl' troon, now this demure and mindful shit)

No. 2152509

>>2152445
A lot have, but they can't admit it's plain old garden variety misogyny or their own LARP collapses. Check out the transmisandry and transandrophobia tags on tumblr if you want to see TIFs trying to explain why TIMs systematically treating them like shit is a real phenomenon but it isn't misogyny and TIMs are still women and TIFs are still men. Unsurprisingly, TIMs have declared it all TERFy wrongthink, because admitting that being female has any disadvantages makes you Hitler.

No. 2152540

i hate troons they are disgust

No. 2152602

Kikomi logic literally makes 100% sense if you follow troon ideology, yet they denounce it. If sex and gender are separate then surely it should be possible to be born as a trans woman, trapped in a female body. Or a trans man trapped in a male body. Because if not you're saying gender identity is tied to the physical body, which according to them it isn't and that's why trans exists.

No. 2152645

>>2150593
>he has a wife and two kids
Not for long kek. I hope she takes everything in the divorce.

No. 2152650

>>2150658
It depends on the city, but yes. Four of my friends trooned out, there are like five troons at my work, two of my younger brother's friends trooned, and my boomer mom even has a friend who transitioned. It's fucking insane. But I live in a very liberal area in a state considered "safe" for troons, so maybe that's why.

No. 2152668

>>2151286
The judge who decided the case was a moid, by the way. Not surprising that he'd side with his own kind. Tickle (barf, doubt that's his real name) could used literally any other dating app, including one of the tranny inclusive "lesbian" apps, but he went out of his way to use Giggle because he wanted to destroy it. Ugly, evil predator. I hate men.

No. 2152683

>>2151286
To get around it women should invent a fake specific trans label, maybe it's time to bring "afab transwoman" to life and say it's transphobic to not let them gather

No. 2152696

Kind of a vent but my coworker isn't really onboard with the trans stuff and we've talked about plenty of the dangers but is still letting her 11 year old suspected-autistic daughter go by the name Kai, she even calls her that when she's not around now.
What would you have done nonas? I feel like refusing to use the name might upset the child and since they got the idea of changing their name to a common troon name from someone they'd probably also have learned it's hateful violence to not use their "preferred name". The child could grow out of it soon anyway…
But on the other hand it seems potentially dangerous to agree to their whims and to let them indulge in what must be coming from troon ideology. I'm not sure what I would have done, but I feel in my gut allowing the kid to change her name isn't really a good thing.

No. 2152724

>>2152696
I'm inclined to say that indulging them a little bit (nothing permanent) at that age might be better than completely refusing to hear any of it. I think that'd only increase the chance that the kid would get stuck in full rebellion mode and/or too proud to admit she made a mistake. Hopefully she can somewhat safely explore the tranny shit, realize it's not what she thought it was and let is pass like any other fase before she ages out of needing parental approval for going on hormones or hacking her chest off.

But I'm not a parent so what do I know.

No. 2152766

>>2152696
I listened to that Gender, a Wider Lens podcast and they say the best outcomes they have seen of the gender craze is from the parents of children who indulge them a bit but set hard rules of what not to expect, ie hormones and surgeries. They say that usually this is the best environment and guarantees the best outcome (they outgrow it eventually).

No. 2152836

>>2152766
>>2152724
this is still ridiculously indulgent parenting…forget the troon thing and imagine you had declared to your parents that your name was now like idk Cypher. would they not have literally laughed in your face?

these advice givers have literally zero fucking guts. if theyre retarded and internet pilled enough to fall into troon shit, well, #1 you already failed as the adult, but #2 literally laugh at them and take all their devices if they persist.

this walking-on-eggshells mentality literally just tells them they have the upper hand and that you can be suicide baited and selfharm baited into anything. this shit deserves to be laughed at. it is deeply unserious.

these parents got here by treating every single one of their kid's complaints and difficulties like it was the end of the world. "autistic" lol…parents who fail to socialize their kids and then throw them at the cruel mercy of "psychologists" to fix the problem are shitters. "autistic" = "i othered my child to expunge my guilt" 99.9% of the time(integrate)

No. 2152841

>>2152836
I think it's a bit more difficult and nuanced than that. Children are being indoctrinated online by gender ideology. They are told their parents won't approve. They are told that their parents might disown them. So they build up this sort of detachment from their parents as a preemptive defense mechanism.
Parents laugh and call you retarded because all your friends are genderfluid and now you think you're really a boy in a girl's body and you want to be called Socks? Okay. Now time to totally detach from them, ignore them, shut them out and jump into the arms of online tranny groomers because your parents did exactly what the groomers said they would.
I've seen this scenario play out plenty of times. They go and seek out online community full of salacious adults because they're retarded and their parents are mean and won't listen to them.
I don't disagree that the childish urge to troon out is retarded, but I think the gender ideology is basically just grooming children to bit by bit disconnect from their parents.

No. 2152851

>>2152696
When I was growing up in the late 90s and early 00s, I never wanted to play with dolls or wear skirts and I hated the colour pink, but my mum never said to me "ah, you must be a boy!" instead she sat me down and explained that it was normal for girls to do all this, but that sometimes other people will be dumb and say shit to you for being that way. I think there's a difference between parents supporting gender non-conforming children and allowing them to flourish and become their own people, but most of these troon-parents aren't actually "supportive" of their child, they're permissive and lenient, and are themselves also poisoned by gender ideology.

No. 2152857

>>2152841
i agree with you nona. trooning out is retarded but i don't think a parent should outright reject, or worse, abuse a child over it. it just gives the cult more fuel and will add further resentment on the childs part
>"they don't understand me but these strangers online do!"
ect

No. 2152865

>>2152841
While I'm not a parent I was a rebellious child from strict parents and I do think the best way for your kid to turn out relatively normal is to support and accept them exploring things in their teen years. If you provide the space for them to do some gendie shit without pushback it'll become instantly a bit less cool in their mind. I agree with the other anon that letting them change their name and pronouns but setting the line of no hormones/surgery is the way to go. Telling a teenager "no" is just going to:
1. Make them feel more isolated
2. Let them think they can't talk to you about these things you ~don't understand~
3. Push them into online spaces that are going to take them in with open arms like young boys do with incel forums.
I genuinely think I would have turned out relatively normie had my parents been less crazy strict with me, and I wish every parent knew this before their kids reached teenagehood.

No. 2152869

>>2152668
>Tickle (barf, doubt that's his real name)
It's not. I was hoping he was just born with an unfortunate name, but I went through his blog when the case started getting big and he really did decide to name himself "Ms. Tickle". I forget what his original last name was, but it was something really normal like Washington or Williams.

No. 2153056

>>2152869
Their so porn-brained and neurotic about coom that they even name themselves after their fetishes. Troons need to start killing themselves more.

No. 2153105

>>2152865
>>2152851
zero nads

gutless worm parent mentality

1) how are they gonna go more into online hellholes when you take their devices away
2) teens are LOOKING for conflict. they will push until they find conflict. if you retreat, they will push forward.

if you admit any part of this nonsense is anything but laughable you have already lost.

1) gender is fake
2) call yourself whatever you like bucko
3) psychology is fake too
4) go do your homework

done. do not give in to any part of the nonsense.

genx parents are gutless ssri zombie psychology believes themselves so this behavior doesnt surprise from them. but you should do better.(unintegrated posting style)

No. 2153110

>>2153105
Why'd you hit enter so many times when you made this post

No. 2153111

>>2153105
>Zero nads
>Gutless worm
>Gutless ssri zombie psychology
What does this mean?

No. 2153118

>>2151735
a lot of the women who TIMs will abuse the worst are TIFs. you're not fully in the cult and able to be bullied.

No. 2153119

>>2153105
You type like gen z but somehow sound like a boomer

No. 2153219

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this wording is fucking insane. "identifying as a girl" like it's a choice?? Do you see how western troonism conflicts with everything else. Imagine hearing about how women in Afghanistan are suffering and finding a way to make it about troons. This is why recognizing the biological reality is so important. Women and girls in afghanistan aren't oppressed because they "identify as girls" it's because they're female. I fucking hate trannies, narcissistic shits.

No. 2153221

>>2153111
I have a masters in retardnese
>no balls = weak willed and cowardly person
>weak willed and cowardly person
>weak willed and cowardly boomer who pathologises everything and is really into antidepressants

No. 2153269

>>2153056
I wish the hormones they took made them severely ill and made them die in the span of 5 years , we need these troons out of society.
But it’s looking bleak honestly and I’m tired of it. Isn’t it funny that women fought for centuries for their rights, but as soon as men wanted to identify as women it took them less than a decade to have rights, or even better, privileges. It’s truly a men’s world.

No. 2153278

>>2151708
They’re so few but look at what they’ve done in just a couple of years as soon as they got acceptance.

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I hate her for this

No. 2153281

>>2153280
I hate the way he's grabbing the nap of her neck. If I were her I'd kill it. He looks like a fucking insect. Gross.

No. 2153360

>>2153280
No idea who they are but this pic really highlights the beauty of the woman compared to the ugliness of the pudgy grabby male.

No. 2153444

>>2153360
The one on right is Albanian pop star Dual Lips and then the one of left is the director or creator of the movie "I saw the TV glow" which is about a manchild that thinks he's a woman in a TV show because he is obsessed with his childhood. It's very on the nose, even for a troon. The sad thing is the movie has a really good soundtrack and score, but when I watched it I was very uninterested in the story it was like something a 14 year old might think was "deep."

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No. 2153451

>>2153448
Kek this is old news, but I did think it was kind of based of him to do that, in the sense that he made troons look like idiots in front of the law and made them look like jokes. I'm not sure how the custody battle ended up, but it must have been very weird for the judge.

No. 2153452

>>2153448
>No one would EVER become trans to abuse systems! It's only a terf talking point!! THAT NEVER HAPPENS!!!

No. 2153458

>>2153448
For those unfamiliar, the article is about a guy that's divorcing his wife, and he wants better custody agreement, so he decided to change his legal gender because the courts argued that a child should spend more time with her mother. So now in the eyes of the law, both parties are the child's mother. This is a really funny troll of the legal system and it points out how retarded troon logic is to begin with. Here's a link to the article instead of just a screencap:
https://www.vice.com/en/article/man-legally-changed-gender-to-gain-custody-of-his-kids-trans-groups-are-concerned/

No. 2153484

>>2153444
>Jane Schoenbrun
>They discovered they were trans while tripping on mushrooms in April 2019
I wish people would just laugh these ridiculous men in the face.

No. 2153541

>>2152766
>the best outcomes they have seen of the gender craze is from the parents of children who indulge them a bit but set hard rules of what not to expect, ie hormones and surgeries
That's probably a good take on it.
>>2152836
>this walking-on-eggshells mentality literally just tells them they have the upper hand and that you can be suicide baited and selfharm baited into anything
That's not how I read it, since the parent(s) in this case knows about the dangers of troonism they could allow the kid her new nickname, while maintaining it IS just a nickname and no surgeries/hormones are allowed. All the while they could subtly talk about gender stereotypes and how being a girl who likes "boy" things is totally ok etc to peak the kid but without telling her to her face that she's wrong. That lets her put the pieces together herself. Maybe make her watch documentaries on cults as well, pretending it's not related to the troon thing kek
>>2152865
>I genuinely think I would have turned out relatively normie had my parents been less crazy strict with me, and I wish every parent knew this before their kids reached teenagehood.
There's a lot of known indicators that a kid might troon out and a very common one is coming from religious/strict homes. I think it's as common as autism and being gnc.

No. 2153544

Saying "identifying as a girl/boy" is inherently excluding not only babies who haven't formed the concept of self-identity yet, but also mentally disabled people who also cannot form such thoughts. It's insidious to say this means they are NOT girls/boys - they suddenly lose their humanity simply because they're disabled. Those mentally disabled girls cannot be girls since they cannot identify as such, which means laws that protect girls don't cover them. Troonism is inherently ableist (among other bad things)

No. 2153548

>>2153544
>Troonism is inherently ableist
You just have to look at how many autists are taken advantage of by troon ideology to realize this.

No. 2153550

>>2153544
>>2153548
Troonism literally preys on the sense of being "othered" which OF COURSE autistic people (and self-hating gays) will identify with and latch onto because it gives them an easy, neat little answer they can blame all their loneliness on. And yet transitioning never magically makes them less awkward or fixes their mental health issues. Of fucking course an autist isn't gonna be able to describe what being a man/woman "feels" like, because gender ISN'T A FEELING, it's just something you ARE. But cult tactics and difficulty connecting with others convinces them it's "proof" they were born "incorrectly" or whatever. You might as well ask what it "feels" like to have a certain hair colour. So predatory.

No. 2153558

>>2153550
Samefag, another predatory way troons prey on the mystical "feeling" of being a certain gender is twisting people's valid resentment towards gender roles/sexism into a symptom of their illness. Gullible, mentally ill people don't have the brainpower or vocabulary to express why they hate gender roles, like a woman being affected by misogyny, so it's easy for troons to feed them regressive bullshit and put words in their mouths. Basically what I'm trying to say is that troonism takes vulnerable people affected by outside societal problems, and gaslights them into believing it's actually because there's something innately wrong with their bodies.

No. 2153632

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>>2151396
Nona don't you know? We're all on a gamete spectrum, even cis people. Enbies are spegg, trans women are spergs

No. 2153647

>>2153632
Plz don't make this a thing because I like calling myself a sperg in an Aspergers way not a retarded enby way .Plz chnage it for the autism people like me

No. 2153688

>>2153280
Unfortunate I like Charlie's music but her handmaiden ass is one of her flaws. That's not even putting into account that the hyperpop and PC music scene is littered with TiM producers. She's referenced and worked with people like SOPHIE, Kim Petras, and even namedropped Sewerslvt in 360. (I think the last one was outed as a rapist or something along those lines).

No. 2153694

>>2153444
It literally says in the description that the woman on the right is Charli XCX.

No. 2153706

>>2153694
probably assumed it was Dua on looks alone. a dumb mistake plus she's also pro trans

No. 2153747

>>2153688
Sewerslvt is your average Adelaide troon, a racist child groomer.

No. 2153833

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When Le Gender TM is no longer in vogue, I wonder how long it'll take for the blatant homophobia in this sort of shit to be called out. There's so much of it everywhere you look. Lesbians do not need men in order to live happy fulfilling lives. Lesbians do not need to accept the troon brigade in order to be 'real lesbians'. Women deserve and need our own spaces. Men who look realllyyyyyy good in glitter eyeshadow from Claire's don't get a pass even if they come bearing a rot pocket.
Honestly I'm more than fed up with handmaidens who parrot this shit. Women don't need to put up with anyone who wants to throw us to the wolves, regardless of whether it's a moid or a fellow woman who really hates being female.

No. 2153839

>>2153833
What the fuck is this post even talking about. Misandrist lesbians are secretly TIFs deep down?

No. 2153868

>>2153833
It's so funny when TiFs defend men, thinking it'll make them look like they're legitimate males. The thing is, she almost gets it but her TiF compulsion to think she's totally one of the boyzzz is setting her back. It's true, self-proclaimed members of the LGBT community hate 'masculinity' in women. They believe that masculine/feminine traits or articles of clothing are the ultimate measure of character, beyond sex and socialization. This is how they come to loathe butches (wishing them mutilation, talking about their 'toxic manhood') and un-feminine, non compliant women in favor of oh-so-vulnerable TiMs. In many women, there is a real, deep belief that femininity is fundamentally good (as opposed to a constraining set of norms). Of course, she had to point the finger at lesbians even if the strongest defenders of the 'masculinity=bad' line of thought are gendies/handmaidens and a bunch of self-hating TiMs. It doesn't matter that TiFs are all over lesbian social scenes, it must be the fault of evil lesbians (never TiMs who spit on TiFs though). And who gives a fuck if some lesbians only want to be around women? How is this shocking for women, let alone homosexual ones kek
>>2153839
I think that's what she's implying. Women in their mid-life/teenage crisis really want to believe every well-adjusted adult is two bad days away from injecting themselves with T or horse piss

No. 2153916

>>2126988
the angel wing looks like a cobweb kek

No. 2154000

>>2153833
these people make posts for the 0.0000001%

No. 2154184

>>2126988
I went to an all-girls school, too, and this is just pathetic. I'm sure the dev is a woman who seethed as a teen and decided to troon out as a way to rebel against… nobody, kek

No. 2154199

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>>2153688
The fact everyone ignores the blatant disrespect sewerslvt constantly displays towards junko furuta is almost representative of the ignorance towards trannies disrespecting women as a whole. Naming yourself after her then adding “slut” to it knowing she was raped is absolutely insane. These moids have no respect towards women, handmaidens don’t care of course.

No. 2154204

>>2153558
So we can't reason with TRAs because they are too dumb? why and how did these people get so many privileges, to the point they are a protected category when they don't even have a fixed view and they can't explain nothing about their ideology??

At this point I think that it's just a conspiracy against autistic people in order to make them lifelong patients and milk money out of them or it's an indirect attack on the LGB, since support for us has also decreased too.

No. 2154206

>>2154199
They can never let this poor girl rest, it's disgusting.

No. 2154208

>>2154204
And most importantly it's being pushed to fight back against feminism, if you keep feminism on the surface level (feminism is for everyone, males in dresses are the priority , we have to make sure to include everyone and anyone) no actual change will be made.

No. 2154210

>>2153688
Wtf?? She name dropped SHELDON of all people??? I think you’re getting confused here because I really don’t think that’s true.

No. 2154214

>>2153688
and she loves dickriding for gay men. Her music is shit too anyway.

No. 2154287

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>>2154210
she didn't outright say sewerslvt in the lyrics of the song, but this feels a little too on the nose or maybe I'm just schitzhoposting you decide

No. 2154389

>>2154287
this kind of shit and the men she hangs around are exactly why i hate her. i dont know what other possible reading there could be for this, shes so disgusting.

No. 2154809

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Gender people "humor"

No. 2154842

>>2154809
"i-it's not a social contagion… and not just a trend!" they cry

No. 2154852

>>2154809
> Just guys being dudes for a few years
Why are all men so fucking gay kek

No. 2154968

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>TiMs stop projecting onto every super hero ever that has an alter ego that hides their true hero identities challenge, literally imfuckingpossible

Get the hell away from Cybersix oh my god

No. 2154977

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>>2154968
adding on, why do so many TiPs get
their influence on trooning out via the cartoons they watched in their childhoods or even recently as adults? what level of autistic does this to a man?

No. 2154979

>>2154977
Thought the creators meant a bisexual or gay one? Like look at her.

No. 2154985

>>2154968
why the fuck does a troon have a Kyoko Okazaki pfp kek, you're not one of us

No. 2155009

Is it ever worth it to try to maintain friendships with people who are pro-trans, even if they are one of the only people you know into a niche subject? I simply cannot deal with interacting with someone who thinks that my existence can be distilled into a costume for men to wear, and I hate that I have to choose loneliness just to preserve my basic dignity. I hate that extremely niche internet music spaces online are all filled with troons and their supporters weird male supporters. The men all get to have a great time discussing music trivia while not having to feel like they're sacrificing their dignity to do it because their rights aren't being threatened by gender ideology. Shit is so fucking unfair, society wants women to be alienated.

No. 2155014

>>2155009
You don't have to be friends with everyone. You can be her acquaintance and leave it at that. Talk to her about your niche interest and do all that, but don't get too close and don't talk about anything deeper than the interest. If it's a surface-level relationship, surely her opinions on troons won't come up often so it won't have such an impact on your opinion of her. Personally for me, I only stay friends with people that I know I can trust, and that share my values, and being gc is one of those values that I really appreciate in others.

No. 2155019

>>2155009
It’s hard. One of my closest friends of like 12 years started transitioning and I feel a lot of anger at her over it. We have niche interests, she’s incredibly smart and genuinely a cool person outside of that. Like very outgoing and fun to be around. I’ve kept the friendship but I guess it’s more distant than before because I can’t be fully open with her.

No. 2155089

It's almost impressive how the gendercult has managed to be so persistent especially with the bunch of lies they keep saying.
>we're like a 1% of the population!!
But they're everywhere online unless you join spaces that excludes them and that has to be done secretly because you can get banned for nit accepting them in your crochet meme spam server.
>we don't have basic human roigths!
But they can: vote, get jobs, have businesses, have properties (even huge ones like the tranny farms) they can have animals, adopt, have or buy children, they can have bank accounts, they have courses and careers about their ideology in universities/colleges, they have special days of visibility, apps cater to them by letting them add their special pronouns and color schemes, they can get married and remarried however they want, they're allowed to get hormone imbalances by their doctors and any surgeries they want, some of those things are even covered by insurances which they can have, in jail they can get all of that for free and sometimes they're even allowed to go to their preferred jail, at public places there's bathrooms for them and they're allowed to go to the bathroom they feel like going to, they can join any social events and they can host any events they want like parades or protests or even counter-protests against whatever they want, they're welcomed by religions even (the pope has had luncheons with drag queens and trannies, Muslims sometimes prefer to have a trooned out son over a gay son) they can go to the Olympic games, they can enter sports teams regardless of sex or even age, they can publish books, plays, make movies, make music and read outloud (you know, unlike women in places with literal laws against women's singing voices and women reading outloud) they can have a citizenship, a passport, they can travel, they even have bathrooms in airports for them and so on.
So what rights do they don't have?
And I know this is preaching to the choir but sometimes I think most people don't seem to notice that these so called problems that the gender ideology are going through aren't even real.

No. 2155106

>>2155009
It's difficult because if they're TRAs they'll bring up the subject at random for no reason. You'll end up wanting to distance yourself because it's so exhausting to constantly endure and it'll keep happening even if you give them no reaction. Then there's the fact that they'll drop you instantly if they ever find out you're gender critical.

No. 2155124

>>2155106
What is it about this ideology that makes its adherents incapable of talking about anything else for more than five minutes? Any attempt to talk about shows or movies is especially doomed since their mind goes right to making every character trans.

No. 2155192

>>2155124
In the end it's just people that don't have good relationships at home tbh, those people that speak way too much don't even bother to get along with their families, like ever. They don't even have a cousin they can talk to because they burn any bridges they may have, and/or just know they would be made fun of or even ignored by their families.
That's why they then constantly talk about retarded shit with their friends or strangers online.
Like, I have an acquaintance (I don't think she's really a friend of mine) who only talks about being soooo gay, "happy faggots month!", how tits are hoooooot, omgz tranz roightz or how JKR is such an evil monster bully sad face emoji, my friend and I usually ignore her or change the theme or go "Oh wow really" and that's about it, but she can't stop bringing that stuff up because she just doesn't have anyone else to talk with, or she wants us to feel some sort of kinship with her when we just don't care.
This is honestly also why you mostly see nerds into this shit, most of them are lonely people with no meaningful bonds, hobbies that are too niche or just overall uninteresting to the average person.
If anything we should be amazed by how anons here have either peaked or never fell for this shit, it's like Crack to nerds and anyone who isn't a complete normie, it's a community, a topic, a hobby and a religion all in a package full of promises of feeling accepted and welcomed.

No. 2155251

>>2155192
>If anything we should be amazed by how anons here have either peaked or never fell for this shit
Good point. I wasn't particularly close to my family until my late 20's, and I'm an autist that always had trouble being comfortable with myself. I never fell for any of this shit, always found it weird af but a bit fascinating when it was still fairly unheard of. I wonder if it is because I grew up with a feminist mother that would talk a lot about women's right, or because she humbled me during my brief nlog phase by simply asking "but how are you unlike other girls/what are other girls like?" when I had my brief nlog phase kek it was a very introspective moment and similar questions should be asked whenever anyone has a "not like other girls/boys" phase because I think it would make anyone snap out of it

No. 2155258

>>2155192
I'm glad that my dad, while he was definitely shitty in some aspects, wasn't sexist at all. He taught both me and my brother to cook and always has an open ear if someone, be it my mom, me or my brother, needs emotional support. He was also very strict about hygiene both for himself and us kids. So even when I was a soft pick-me I never accepted men just dumping all the housework on their female relatives or being disgusting cave trolls, because I was taught from childhood on that this is unacceptable and I never put up with it in my boyfriends. I either bullied them until they changed - most did - or dumped them.

No. 2155477

>>2152602
No, Kikomi wannabes are TIFs because trans woman in a sense is a type of man and TIFs want to be a man.

No. 2155485

>>2151973
That reminded me of one family with no sons where the oldest daughter is chosen to be raised as a boy, while there already was a TIF in the family, tif gets insanely envious of her sister and the usual drama happens. Not many talked about this though

No. 2155488

>>2155251
For some girls it tend to be more concrete, e.g. being explicitly casted out for not fitting in with the label of being the weird girl

No. 2155522

>>2155089
They don't know what to protest for because nothing about them is important, only the cult. They love to move in cult and to feel being part of something and have quick excuses instead of working on themselves. They love to repeat shit like "Omg go to therapy! Therapy saves lives!" but they don't go themselves.
If you're autistic or not a boy pick me, you're a dude. You're "different"? You're a dude. No, don't go to therapy to find out the real reason behind your anxiety and constant unhappiness, you're simply trans and chopping your body will grant you a new start, a new chance at life. Don't like your life? Don't make it better, restart it with a new identity!
But think about it clearly, nona, and reply without irony: when did gender matter, on the inside?
Like yeah sure I can see the sexism but that's a matter of environmental factors, think about the inside, why is gender so important? Why keep thinking about it? Why doing mental gymnastics to fit in a group you don't belong? (for ex. straight girls trooning out)
They don't have real problems, it's the same effect of rich people/influencers doing those horrible "I try to work as a cashier for a day!!" videos to show how different their lives are but it looks terribly tone deaf. It's a misery roleplay. Sure, to troon out you have to have some mental problems, but being trans isn't it, they don't have other shit to worry about so they fill their brain with brainrot and love to larp as disabled people to get sympathy points. One thing that made me peak was seeing them roleplaying my problems: I'm a bisexual woman, when I had a gf years ago I had to hide, I had to keep it a secret due to my country's strict views, it's not cool at all and I wish we could evolve, but it's something you think about, how the real world perceives you, they don't think about it because it's not real. They like to walk around with pronoun pins and people don't know what those mean, they love to go to the hospital to claim their top surgery and get surprised when the doctor send them to plastic surgeons and not urgent care surgeons, they claim that they face discrimination on the job when the worst scenario is "Bug can you please stop having meltdowns about your legal name on the tag and get back to work". They live fake lives and face fake problems, only to fit in. It's creepy. And for what? To fit it and close their eyes at their real problems, as long they have their genshin kins and pins on their itabag, everything is fine. Tifness is wearing rose colored glasses.

Tim-ness is pure coom, nothing much, but they forced thmeselves on the lgb movement so they could be accepted and justified, a moid's biggest frustration is not acting out his coomeristic tendencies.

No. 2155569

>>2155522
Gender is important in family dynamics e.g. being the eldest/middle/youngest instantly put each kid in different positions even in the same environment, they don't result in the same share of environmental factors that contribute to trooning out.

No. 2155571

>>2155569
Nope nonna I didn't mean it in that way. I mean it in a "personality point" type of way, the one that tifs use. Why thinking about it so much?

No. 2155579

>>2155571
Maybe im just frustrated and opened my vent a little. Yes, i suffer from a household with a troon sibling.

No. 2155584

>>2155522
>go to the hospital to claim their top surgery and get surprised when the doctor send them to plastic surgeons and not urgent care surgeons
That's new, I thought all trans related surgeries are technically cosmetic surgeries and some troons are already aware of it?

No. 2155636

>>2155584
I talked in the point of view of my country and it's not the usa. In no way here you can get a mutilation like that on tax payer money and here troons are manifesting for "life saving surgery" like the others. They are completely unaware on how the real world works.

No. 2155686

>>2153280
same and connor omalley was in that abortion too.

No. 2155706

>>2153280
Why can't troons dress lmao, imagine looking back at this picture and realizingo how dirty and mismatched troons look compared to women, I would kms too

No. 2155712

>>2153219
It’s woke victim blaming. Makes perfect sense considering how liberals love to align themselves with Muslims and always defend at every terrorist attack

No. 2155775

My personalcow is a troon whose writing gets attention online and it drives me nuts that they lie so much about their background. One of their most recent popular posts was about how uwu terrible it was to grow up in an ignorant area with terrible education and they were so special because as a tween they used the internet to learn about diversity and activism and so on…she went to two private schools, parents could afford for her to go overseas, and literally drove her around everywhere into her mid-20s because she refused to drive or work a plebeian job like anyone else. I can't take anything seriously that I see online related to these topics because it's got to be a bunch of other autists who not only fake being victims but also put on airs

No. 2156105

>>2155579
How do you (and other nonas in a similar position) deal with a troon sibling? Are you crypto-terfing or open with your views, are your parents accepting of the trooning? Do you tell them peaking material stuff? If my sibling trooned out I wouldn't play along at all, I would choose to "be kind" which does in fact mean to NOT pander to their delusions and be firm with reality. Affirming troonism is cruelty, I would only wish it on my worst enemies.

No. 2156168

>>2156105
Its difficult for me to find applicable resources even online, i think for mine, i just ignore how my tif sister keeps wanting me to be feminine, wanting me on her side that she should take on the male role so I don't need to do it (because she has no brothers), and it is actually just her accusing our parents that i am raised more like a boy than she is. She hates me being the older sister because she saw it as an inherently better starting point, to her she not only had to act like a proper girl but also a proper little sister, not taken seriously and not allowed to grow up in a metaphorical sense.
When anyone suggests I tif out(meant to be a joke) as an extension of my familial role she gets freaking mad as if she is ignored.

No. 2156171

>>2156168
Yeah that and she saw a lot of the traits expected for firstborn boys and girls w/o brothers to be traditionally masculine, so maybe it had influenced her to act out on me. My parents thought she hated me but I saw it as she hated their expectations of me. It's like an extra hurdle in her trooning out. Because she did it so many times I kept on hearing it from her.
I am Japanese, and a good number of modern Japanese families in whatever countries has this weird mix of conservative and liberal values.
She kept calling me "handsome/cool woman" to spite me.

No. 2156457

>>2156168
>>2156171
Sounds tricky to deal with nona. I hope your sister grows out of it and you're able to form a more stable family bond. She clearly has some unwarranted jealousy issues to work through.

No. 2156642

I love her.

No. 2156735

>>2156457
Sure is unwarranted. But tho there's no men directly involved since neither her nor I have other brothers how would jealousy of a woman cause another woman to become a TIF (as opposed to tomboys being jealous of their brothers and male relatives they become tif)? Is it the simple failure of the Bechdel test? Your questions are intriguing, nona

No. 2156846

>>2156735
>But tho there's no men directly involved since neither her nor I have other brothers how would jealousy of a woman cause another woman to become a TIF
Because she sees a person who is "better" than her, so she wishes to be even better than that person. And exactly because she doesn't know what males are like she idolizes them and imagines if she was a boy she would have the power to be "better". It's possible if she had a stinky brother it would shatter the fantasy and she'd see how gross they are first hand and not want to be one.
She also resents the competition of being the younger girl, so if she was a boy that girl-on-girl competition would be gone.

No. 2156872

>>2156642
I was going to post her but she doesn’t have that many views

No. 2157107

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Lol these troons are so fucking retarded, statistically most americans do not give a fuck about trannies. They try to force everyone to give a fuck. It'd be so stupid to run on trans rights when it's an issue only like 1% of the population cares about, and that 1% mainly being in deep blue states kek. Trannies are always like "ME ME ME ME FOCUS ON ME!!!!!" when there are much bigger issues that most americans care about that statistics support like housing, economy, abortion, etc etc. I think many mainstream left-leaning movements and parties are starting to understand that trannies' demands are infinite and that they'll never satisfy them. It'll be narcissism that kills the troon movement kek.

No. 2157114

>>2157107
I hope the DNC continues to stop featuring tranny speakers and talking about tranny issues. Then they'll have to either measure up and actually 41% like they love to fear monger about kek.

No. 2157119

>>2157107
wokies were never gonna vote in the first place

No. 2157127

>>2157107
>trans Americans face unprecedented attacks
Like fucking what?

No. 2157179

>>2157107
>the unemployment rate for trans people
not anyone's problem but theirs kek dye your hair a normal color, ditch the piercings, and try to seem somewhat normal until you get the job

No. 2157180

>>2157179
And for the love of god, remove the pronouns in your resume

No. 2157213

>>2157107
The DNC can redeem themselves if they continue to ignore them. I can gather by now that western liberal parties are slowly realising that advocating so loudly for troons just wasn't worth it and it didn't bring in the votes like they thought it would, plus especially in regards to the US, that one incident where the troon flashed his implants must have pissed them off.

My current annoyance is that "demure" big chungus gorlock the destroyer troon that many handmaidens are obsessed with. It was all fine and dandy when it was internet only, but other women in my lab class are obsessed with quoting that troon and think he's funny and it's pissing me the fuck off. I hate having to deal with troon stuff irl, it's bad enough that online spaces are infected with troon pride flags and troons talking about yeeting their tits off out in the open like it's nothing. It's worse enough that a big ugly troon is in one of my classes and he is so loud and obnoxious. he thinks only wearing pink cargo shorts is enough to signal that he is a woman.

No. 2157358

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After seeing the trans parents featured in various cow threads, I believe it.

No. 2157359

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>>2157358
Some of the brain dead top comments

No. 2157372

>>2157359
What the fuck I hope these people never procreate. Even from a TRA rose tinted blindfold stand point its fucked because troons are such a small portion of the population so they're willing to sacrifice their child's mental development and health for the one in a million chance this child is nonbinary? Although I guess it doesn't matter because they're going to pressure the child into trooning out anyways. God, I hate these people.

No. 2157404

>>2156846
That already implies it's over, nona mogs her sister no matter what because nona can also do the same things her sister did

No. 2157525

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>find out a EarthBound romhack I've been waiting for since the late 2000s is still being worked on after all this time
>… by two chiptune loving trannies who LARP as the soft nerdy musician gurls they want to bone
The day the videogame fandom at large wakes up and understands this gender bullshit is a fraud is the day I will finally be free. For now all I can do is suffer in silence or I risk being ostracized. I'm so fucking tired of all these skinwalkers who think they're failed males and so they LARP as women and I'm tired of seeing them everywhere. I'm tired of people making excuses for them and pretending there aren't patterns everywhere for their perversions, nutcase behaviors and maleness. I'm tired of everyone tiptoeing around these walking landmines because we are all afraid of being ostracized by our only real friend groups.
It sucks, it's suffocating.

No. 2157526

>>2157358
i think doing this through the lens of "my kid is non-binary" is retarded because obviously being nonbinary is just more gender identity where we should have less, but raising your children without gendered terms or expectations is probably ultimately a good thing. as long as you acknowledge their bio sex in medical contexts and explain it to them when they're old enough to understand the way their body functions & the ways society at large will see them, i see the idea itself being leading to more good than bad. a kid can't experience "dysphoria" if you raise boys and girls the same way

No. 2157530

>>2157359
If that is even true, which I somewhat doubt this just shows that the level of cognition these retarded groomers possess is on the level of an infant who's still figuring out language itself. I have a two year old daughter, we're not native english and she messes up grammar and conjugating verbs all the time as well. For example will say "(I) pick you up" when she wants to be picked up or also "do (you) want/ (you) don't want" to express if she wants something or not. Since it hasn't 100% clicked yet how different POVs work and how language reflect that, so it would only make sense if it happens in other areas of language as well.

Aside of that it feels quite grim that a filthy redditor posting there and talking like this is supposed to be supervising little kids. Be careful in whose care you put them!

No. 2157535

>>2157526
They still can, if the parents are unlucky enough to get a kid who genuinely hates whatever their genitals are

No. 2157537

>>2157530
You’re right, kids that age mess up pronouns constantly. I know 5-year-olds who still struggle with it and routinely call their female teachers she/him. My own kid referred to herself in the second person until she was 3 because that’s how everyone else addressed her. It doesn’t mean children are ‘nonbinary’, it means gendered language and grammar is difficult for young kids to understand. The children themselves are still either female or male. Does this person think that everyone who speaks a non-gendered language is automatically nonbinary?
At that age I’d be worried that referring to single, known individuals as ‘they’ will make it even more difficult for these children to develop proper grammar, and I also worry that introducing genderism in this way will just reinforce gender roles for these kids. Introducing a third category does not free children from that. If girls are X, boys are Y and nonbinaries are Z, and my family all agrees that I’m a girl, does that mean I must do/be X? As opposed to simply telling them that girls can play and wear whatever they want. These poor children are going to be so confused.

No. 2157539

>>2157537
Gendered language can be difficult on average for kids until they reach 5, in developmental disorders 6, my baby cousin kept 'misgendering' me and calling me a he and his mom had to keep correcting him. He's doing fine now.
If left untaught, they will grow up and possibly adopt the behavior of a 10 y/o who told his teacher "they" and "them" are not pronouns (because their definition of the word pronoun has been corrupted by woke).

No. 2157584

>>2156846
She was raised as the pretty girl while I was raised as the nerd girl, she hates being called cute or pretty or anything that imply her feminine looks, while when she complains she's ungrateful. At first I feel enraged why is she throwing away what other girls want (by not wanting to be pretty) but I came to realize she did that because she was a TIF.
Usually it's the nerd girl why troon out to escape competition, she must've been mad why I'm not subjected to female socialization at the extent she is.

No. 2157765

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Nonas I am going insane. At my uni we have a group chat for the whole group and someone new joined today, and I check her profile and she has he/they on her bio. There's 3 gendies and 2 TIFs already in my group, we're a small group so it's a lot of gender people proportionally. It now makes me wonder what new classmates I'll see soon who are just girls who hate their bodies, I still don't know everyone who will be there.
Right now I'm visiting family in my home country cuz I'm a foreign student, I'm from a third world country who has Catholicism as its official religion. Before leaving for studies, I thought most young people didn't care for gender stuff, but I've been proven wrong. I went to a small con for national artists and the amount of TIFs I saw was driving me nuts, the amount of gender related merch was absurd, the amount of people I heard using gender neutral terms (which btw, my language doesn't have gender neutrality, so it sounds stupid) was jarring. It just makes me very very depressed, this is blackpilling to me, I just see young women who hate themselves and instead of choosing a healthy way to cope, they instead feed on delusions and ruin their bodies. When will this gender fad end? I want women to love themselves, I want them to feel confident in their womanhood to the point where they can dress and express themselves however they want.
I'm tired nonnies. I just hope none of them women I see do something they will regret years later. Wear pronoun pins, use badly coloured hair, wear ugly piercings… that's reversible. Just please don't inject yourself with testosterone and/or get top surgery.

No. 2157843

I wanted to post this in the peak trans vent thread, but it's so inactive.

Yesterday I waited on a troon at the restaurant. When he walked in, I thought he was in cosplay of Hunter Gathers from Venture Bros. Unshaven beard, army veteran cap, sunglasses, and a short dress. He ordered a slice of pizza that comes with herbed aoili drizzled on it. He kept me at the table FOREVER asking questions about the murals in the restaurant, what to do as a tourist, and trying to get me to talk about my tattoos (which I don't do with any customer, especially not a troon). After paying, he got up from the table and made it a point to find me in a wholly different part of the restaurant to say, "That pizza was so good, you should call it the Money Shot pizza" – referring, one can only assume, to the white aoili on it. I just blinked and walked away. And back at the table … $0 tip.

No. 2157901

Watching thoughtful detrans videos of people realizing it was just an escape from their trauma and hardships, and without fail there will be at least one troon in the comments going "wow I relate so much to everything you say! …except the opposite, I am totally a real valid trutrans person and this only confirms my views even more" jesus christ read the room, can you please transition into someone with a working brain

No. 2157907

>>2157843
>peak trans vent thread
I miss the terf shiba memes
>"That pizza was so good, you should call it the Money Shot pizza"
Talk to your manager and have him banned for sexual harassment

No. 2157912

>>2157907
So true, I will say something today. Unfortunately, he said he was just visiting town, which is why he was asking me all the questions about touristy things to do. In case he tries to come back in, though, it's the best course of action. Scary to know he's out there traveling around going to restaurants and being perverted with waitstaff.

No. 2157938

>>2157843
>Money shot pizza
I wish he choked to death on that pizza. Fuck troons I actually want them all to die kek. Sorry you had to deal with that nona. It's always the creepiest people that never leave a tip too.

No. 2157997

>>2157912
It's possible he just pretended to not be from town, it could be one of his first outings as a troon or something. If he enjoyed bothering you he'll come back for sure

No. 2158017

>>2157843
The dude seems just autistic and socially retarded. The perfect victim for the troon cult to groom.

Recently I was at a party where I got seated next to a troon for a bit, and out of nowhere he asked me my pronouns (I was like “uhh…I’m female”), told me his pronouns, and started showing me the waifu keychains on his purse. I could literally smell the autism wafting off of him so I just treated him like I would any special needs person.

No. 2158037

>>2157765
sorry anon, art and fandom are infested with gendies and troons. If you want to avoid them, you need to get into hobbies that don't attract them.

No. 2158079

>>2157843
>Money shot
>a scene where male actor ejaculates
Did the troon attempt to misgender itself?

No. 2158169

sorry if this sounds retarded but I really don't understand what this is supposed to mean when other radfems say gender doesn't exist. I could've sworn we were using gender and sex as if they were the same for decades, and now they're different? I get saying the concept of "gender identity" doesn't exist because neither troons nor TRAs can accurately give me how one can feel like a certain gender or what differentiates a "woman gender identity" from a man one if it's subjective and self identified anyways. Does gender not just exist as the grammatical ver of sex? Male and Female are sexes that aren't exclusive to humans which is why Man = adult human male and Woman = adult human female. Similarly we do the same with animals. a female deer is a doe and a male one a buck. wouldn't that constitute as those animal's genders? therfore having it intricately linked with sex. I can't tell if the people saying that are talking strictly about social roles and gender identity or something else entirely

No. 2158182

>>2158169
>I can't tell if the people saying that are talking strictly about social roles and gender identity
This is it. They’re talking about gender identity, or gender roles as something innate. The word gender has been used as a polite euphemism for sex for a while now but they’re not the same thing exactly. When GC people say gender doesn’t exist, they’re saying gender roles are not innate and there is no such thing as gender identity, only two sexes and many diverse personalities.

No. 2158208

sometimes i feel compelled to get back in contact with a tif whom i ended a long friendship with, to attempt to peak her. like literally reconnect not to resume the friendship but to try deprogramming her. i was deep in the gender cult and encouraged her to start T, she hasn't yet afaik, but i feel guilty over that. tbh i yearn to peak all those close to me, but i feel it is near impossible. has anyone ever had success in helping liberal lefties desist?

No. 2158210

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found on pinterest kekkkkk

No. 2158212

>>2158210
This honestly seems like something a cryptoterf would make.

No. 2158216

>>2158210
Lobotomies were mostly as a misogynistic surgical tool to quiet difficult young women. This is another great example of how TIMs will insult and demean women in the most creepy of ways. I know "needing a lobotomy!" is a common joke on TT now, but it's irritating to see so many people forget that it was a tactic to silence so many women.

No. 2158653

>>2157765
I feel you. I teach at a uni and had to take part in orientation day recently. There were just so many young women with retarded troon flag/pronoun pins in that small group of maybe fifty people, I feel like it's only getting worse year by year. The thing is, my language that we use for most classes doesn't even have gendered pronouns, so what these retards usually do is they stick a pin with English pronouns on their jacket, although nobody ever talks about them in English.

No. 2158840

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There ISN'T any danger you retarded fucks, that's why everyone tells you to stop obsessing yourself into a spiral and get a fucking hobby or a job or anything that stops the eternal navel gazing. Gendies really did meme themselves into retardation and permanent irreversible damage because they were brainwashed by fellow retards into thinking that getting their shit together meant they wouldn't be able to post BNHA headcanons anymore.
These people are genuinely too retarded to save.
>>2157765
Is it Brazil? It's a fucking plague isn't it, I try to peak the TIFs by being all 'Yeahhh go boi, now you don't need to do the cooking or the dishes or the laundry or the cleaning like the wimmin and you can play vidya all day like your brothers!' It seems to work, I can see them thinking about how their living situation hasn't actually changed in the slightest and nobody takes them seriously. And it's not twansphobic because you're calling her a he and pretending that short hair equals penis.

No. 2158842

i kind of hate it when a “cis” woman she/her whatever is also dating or married to a guy and/or incredibly feminine. way to play into the stereotypes i guess(baiting)

No. 2158844

>>2158842
What do you mean cis woman,.ypu mean a biological woman who lists her pronouns because of tranny ideology? You're disappointed when those women are straight and conventionally feminine? Like why, for what reason?

No. 2158846

>>2158842
I hold more contempt for the dangerhair nonbinary women who use they/them, but dress up femininely and only date males even though they claim to be bisexual. At least the feminine straight women aren't lying to others to curate their shoddy and thread bare identities.

No. 2158848

>>2158844
>Like why, for what reason?
I reported it for bait kek.

No. 2158990

>>2158840
Wow this is pretty sad. The first paragraph is genuinely good advice for ANYONE who is dealing with poor self-esteem, including "dysphoria". Yes, go outside, go volunteer, get a job! But then it goes on to say that those things are bad, and what you should really do is cave to your self-hate and obsessive dysphoric thoughts.

You'd better start harming yourself now, or before you know it you might
>be married
>have a family
>have a job
>have helped other people
… so start your journey into radical self-hatred before it's too late!

No. 2158999

>>2158840
They do realize a person can have a lot going on in their life and have time for self-reflection and their mental health, right? Troons ruminate on themselves to a genuinely unhealthy degree. They're driving themselves completely insane over meaningless crap like clothes and pronouns. That goes way beyond "exploration," it's a full-blown obsession that people use to fill a void of meaning. Functionally, it's a religion, and it serves the role of religion in the lives of its adherents.

No. 2159014

>>2149169
I was curious about this because I had seen videos of a ladyboy calling himself a ladyboy and saying he wasn't a lady. I went to Thailand for an unrelated vacation with my husband. I went to a ladyboy bar to talk to them, and asked them if they actually think they are women. I was very friendly and didn't let loose what I thought. They said yes. I asked a lot of follow-up and I am sure that I didn't misunderstand. Granted, it was just a few prostitutes in Bangkok so take it with a grain of salt.

No. 2159038

>>2158842
what? can someone translate this into english

No. 2159042

>>2159014
I think at this point in time any kind of troon thinks (or claims to think anyway) they're really the opposite sex. The ones who don't are kicked out of the trans community for a reason.

No. 2159092

>>2158848
kek! you’re retarded

>>2158844
i meant when a female tra most likely only recognizes herself as “cis” because she’s playing into stereotypes/conventionally feminine. i’ve seen a few slip from she/her to she/they and they/them and snap right back to she/her and the cis label once they adopted a glitterfart aesthetic or otherwise got a boyfriend

No. 2159276

>>2158037
I'm aware but it still fucking sucks. The only hobby I have they haven't invaded yet is physical exercise, I do cycling and cardio and I haven't seen trannies so far (and most probably never, they're allergic to having a healthy body after all).
>>2158840
>spoiler
Nah it's not Brazil, but my country is in Central America so it's close. Sucks how everything that becomes popular in the US becomes popular in Latin America but with a few years of delay. So even if online Americans are starting to get fed up with trannies, we still have to wait for Latin America to get the big tranny phase and then later start hating trannies again.

No. 2159644

nonnas i found this while lc was down, it's a really good documentary about trans widows.

No. 2159896

>>2159014
It's actually just a few of them who really think in the way what makes them TIMs.

No. 2159907

>>2157584
Seems like you're actually in the occasional reversed situation.
Usually, it's the nerd and older daughters that are more susceptible to trooning, exacerbated by autism/black&white cognitive reasoning. Nerdy girls are quite unfeminine (not in a bad way) to start with, and if gender ideology gets pushed too much on them they might start to try fitting themselves in the narrative, by logic since boys are masculine and they are, it makes a triangulated reasoning they must be boys too. This is sad, and the brain only matures at around 25 for most people.

>>2156846
That might further cement her tif sister's views that anon is 'masculine' if she ever comes across this post because she, to you is 'better' and it creates another cycle of hatred.

>>2156642
No1curr, this is a cheap dollar store copy of (tif version) Dylan. Her voice is clearly off, any unironic actual non-tif woman who sounds like this would be bullied off the earth.

No. 2159950

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we can tell!

No. 2159959

>>2156846
How is it a disadvantage of being the younger girl?

No. 2159963

>>2159950
The self harm scars… jfc

No. 2159969

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Smoke their asses! What a queen; I can already feel the TIM seething in the comments, kek

No. 2159974

>>2159907
>That might further cement her tif sister's views that anon is 'masculine' if she ever comes across this post because she, to you is 'better' and it creates another cycle of hatred.
why are you assuming anons sister is going to find this specific post on an anonymous forum, then misunderstand it and take personal offense to it, that is wild
>No1curr, this is a cheap dollar store copy of (tif version) Dylan.
nona this woman has been parodying Dylan for at least a year now

No. 2159996

>>2159644
Feeling so damn sorry for those wives and daughters of the abusive AGPs and how they get gaslighted by "health professionals" while the perverted moids get support. I'm glad the documentary was made, hope it peaks a lot of people.

No. 2160004

>>2159644
i feel like a bitch but some of the animations and other small decisions made kind of weirded me out with how awkward they are. it's a valiant effort to go through but i think it could be more polished.

No. 2160012

>>2160004
Overall I liked the animations although some felt like Wikihow.

No. 2160134

>>2155775
sorry for responding to an old post but I noticed trannies usually spawn from middle class or rich families. I think it's because they realize they have no real problems and the glorification of mental illness/the struggle/abuse makes them WANT to have problems as if it makes them a more complex or deeper person. Combined with some other things they just troon out.
A tranny at my job told me his family used to be upper middle class until his parents divorced. The thing is he still isn't dirt poor. Him and his sisters are just losers who won't move out and keep making retarded financial decisions. They still travel and go out for fun. I suspect he has BPD and realized how privileged he was/still is so hopped on the tranny train to have something to self victimize himself for.

No. 2160330

Post op TiMs must get UTIs more often than anyone else

No. 2160928

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??????

No. 2161076

>>2160928
It's anatomical AGP. You come across cases of men who only go for a rotpocket in 'old' (pre-internet) scientific literature. AGP is very strange, it can only be about chopping off their dicks and nothing else.

No. 2161393

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Remember how TRAs went apeshit when JK Rowling didn't tweet for a couple of weeks (because she was on vacation in Greenland kek) and thought it meant she was being punished for her troonphobia? Well, I liked her response.
Btw, how did the OP image come back?

No. 2161406

>>2160134
I think it's more about their families coddling them rather than laughing at them and calling them a pervert at every opportunity. Their neighbourhoods and social circles won't give them any backlash either. So it's more about their immediate surroundings enabling them and being tolerant - something the underclass and the poor won't do.

No. 2161407

>>2161393
She may not be a true radfem but she is funny. Admins have a script running that's connecting cached images to posts I think? So hopefully we might see more images come back as a result.

No. 2161408

>>2161393
JKR really lives rent free in their heads. Why her of all people? Her stance was SO mild from the start, she has no political power and isn't a lawmaker in any way, she's not even like far right and has moderate views on everything else we know of and she's successful and beloved. She's almost painfully average in her views, making her out to be their biggest enemy is so plain stupid and weird I don't get why they're so hell-bent on it

No. 2161413

>>2161408
>>2161393
Honestly off topic but I'm soooo glad she's more mainstream politicly now. She's much more left leaning than your average GC and actually has tried to help women even excluding troon shit. Also one of the only celebrities speaking out for lesbians. love her

No. 2161421

>>2161407
Oh I saw the pinned post now. Ganbatte Cerbmin!
>>2161408
>she's successful and beloved.
I think that is why. She is a highly successful and widely beloved famous woman they can't cancel, and it makes the troons and other moids absolutely seethe. They have been so used to be able to bully and shut down women for decades now but JKR just laughs at them on twitter and keeps earning tons of money. Meanwhile I think the TIFs/female TRAs are angry because they loved HP and sees it as betrayal that the author doesn't have the same beliefs as them, because everything they consume needs to be approved by the cult.

No. 2161483

>>2155009
>>2155106
Old posts but this put my feelings into words so well. I feel alienated from people I know because they almost all turned into gendies and I always think they'd hate me if they knew my opinions so I never feel any real connection with them. It's this never ending cycle of enjoying a nice talk with someone about your hobby and even life sometimes, but then being disappointed by them inserting trans shit into the conversation, besides just garden variety misogyny and annoying moid shit that doesn't involve troons. It's even worse when they actually start trooning out instead of just parroting the ideology, I had a normal hobby group (granted it still had issues with misogyny because it has a lot of males) and now it's infested with a troon constantly making it about himself in the middle of normal conversations.

Being a weird, not super attractive woman with poor social skills is honestly way more isolating than being a man with the same issue in general for as much as men pretend to be lonelier than women and it's why I don't feel sorry for lonely men and incels at all. Even before the troon shit I always had to put up with some form of misogyny just to interact because not many women are into my hobbies, while for men it's like at least they can be friends with other men without them just wanting to fuck them, constantly making misogynistic comments, and actually have your loneliness be taken seriously. With women it's like even though you have these reasons to be alienated (even more so now with how many men and women support troon shit), they'll act like ackshually you're better off and you'll never understand the mythical male loneliness because men still want to fuck you, as if that somehow fixes everything (when it actually just makes it worse). I digress but at this point I feel like my options are either just talking to normies and feeling disconnected for different reasons or just being alone really.

No. 2161619

>>2161483
your entire post resonates, the male loneliness shit is just a lie. weird men can always find community, weird women normally don’t get it unless they conform somehow or are weird “in the right way”.

No. 2161646

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No. 2162203

>>2161408
Because JKR used to be a huge handmaiden. I'm surprised most don't remember this, but before she peaked, men used to make countless videos mocking her for validating every gendies trans Hogwarts headcanon on Twitter so her saying women don't have dicks was the ultimate betrayal for every autistic adult with a Harry Potter tattoo

No. 2163321

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Just found out that some fucking tranny creep is larping as a gUrLy programmer and attempting to reverse-engineer this series of computer games aimed at girls back in the 90's. I grew up with them. They were special to me and very cool, and of course now moids have to infiltrate that. Picrel. Fuck you, creep.

No. 2163342

>>2163321
this is why we need more women in stem, to counteract this parasitic trannyism and skinwalking with a pedophilic add-on

No. 2163346

>>2157843
broke trannies with zero money they haven’t made from drawing furry art should kill themselves, the least they can do is give reparations to the real women for their socially damaging retardation

No. 2163391

>>2163321
>>2163342
Almost no women are into reverse engineering games. It’s extremely tedious work that has to be done in a team and requires knowledge of assembly. It’s a lot of unpaid work. On the upside, if you can find a game that’s a work in progress, there’s volunteer work you can do matching functions. You need to know C for older games. If you’re considering doing it, you have no choice but to tolerate troons. Basically every group has one. I tried to do it for the sake of educating future women in it, but right now I don’t have the time to invest in learning h the system.

I really hope more women can get into the scene one day, it’s a such a sausage fest. The more we know, the more we can form our own women-centric groups and learn some cool skills. Plus it would just be more fun to work with women than dudes kek

No. 2163417

>>2163391
Ooh ooh anon I'm the one who posted that troon originally. Are you into gamedev by any chance???

No. 2163466

I've noticed a recent (?) trend of obvious TIFs claiming "cis male" in their bios. It just makes me kek because they'll then go on and write a laundry list of interests that are exclusive to women. Who do they think they're fooling?

No. 2163505

>>2163466
My crush does this… ugh. This whole thing is so weird, why are they claiming to be cis? I thought “trans men” were real men?

No. 2163617

>>2163417
Yeah, as a hobby. I’ve dabbled in it but have too many hobbies at the moment. I followed the reverse engineering and decompilation of a few games too.

No. 2163741

I'm the anon from >>1980193
I can never call my best friend a man, she came up to me this summer for help because her boyfriends dad wouldn't call her and her bf a gay couple on vacation. I helped her pack thru everything and coping strategies and acted as a shoulder to cry on.

One of the phrases she said to me was "its reassuring knowing that every queer couple goes thru something like this."

I kinda think her BF is pushing for this stuff and shes chronically on tiktok. just a disaster.

I cant loose my best friend, a friendship that ive had for 17 years. every time she talks about this stuff to me i have to lie thru my teeth or use my past handmaiden/enby skills to communicate with her.

we used to make fun of trannies; now she is one. i know if i ever slip up she will never ever talk to me again, even if she detranses because we are both stupidly stubborn people.

i miss her.

No. 2163809

>>2163617
AYRT would you be interested in joining a gamedev discord group I made?

No. 2163810

>>2163741
If she can't handle you telling her the truth, anon, then she wasn't a friend worth having to begin with. You have to learn to move on from someone who can't accept reality. Faking support isn't going to help her any.

No. 2163824

>>2163810
It’s going to be hard because our lives are so intertwined, our families are so close. If I go full terf I’m not only going to loose her but also cause a lot of heavy friction with my family as well.

I really think her boyfriend started all this.

Her boyfriend is in the military, and she really didn’t have any way of thinking in that direction until she started dating her boyfriend. They met right after she got away from her abusive ex-boyfriend. Anyway, he reenlisted this year and she finally moved back closer to home to family and me. Previously, he’s been the person that’s been doing all of her hrt shots. So hopefully sometime apart, might get her to question things, and also possibly getting off of TikTok of that hopefully gets banned.

No. 2163827

>>2163741
this is almost identical to what happened to me and my best friend of nearly 20 years. we naturally started drifting because trans shit was all she ever talked about and it was exhausting. i miss her with all my heart every single day, but things will never be the same. she's just not the same person anymore.

No. 2163978

Warning for classic troon surgery scars but I've been thinking about this lately.
Of course this is an unfortunate case since he has a condition that fucks up the face but isn't "facial feminization surgery" the biggest scam, out of all surgeries?
I can somewhat understand top mutilation on girls because it actually modifies the body and they can somehow pass, I can understand getting a rot pocket because despite it not being a vagina, it makes a difference, somehow.
But facial feminization surgery? What even is a "feminine" face? Women have a lot of faces, rounder, wider, edgier, softer, rougher…what makes a face "feminine"? These delusional men are paying a fuck ton of money for nothing, or rather, a slight shaving of the adam's apple and brow bone but their traits are still there, it gives off a fake effect and if I can pinpoint the plastic surgery on someone, it kinda defies the point, right? They are willing to live all bruised, with screws and nails on their head for looking exactly the same, for me it's the major indication of their mental illness, paying for an illusion.

No. 2163981

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>>2163978
if I spent an absurd amout of money to look exactly the same except for thinner brows I would kill myself indeed and yet they get meme'd into getting this surger, what's up with them

No. 2163984

>>2163981
which one is the before and which one is the after?

No. 2163986

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>>2163984
Hard to point

No. 2163989

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>>2163984
My favourite pics are the ones where the after is caked in makeup to give off the illusion of successful surgery like yeah wipe that off and let's see the difference

No. 2164060

>>2163981
kek at the unflattering side lighting in the before pic vs the flattering forward "flat" lighting in the after

No. 2164061

>>2164060
They used a dark contrast to hide the wide face kek, notice how almost none "after" pictures are without makeup or dramatic lightning

No. 2164071

blog but i fucking HATE trannies speaking about ginger snaps. youtube recommended me a video essay by some fag talking about how it's relatable to "genderqueer" people who feel they're "born in the wrong body and have to endure the horrors of puberty". i can somewhat understand aidens trying to paint it as a tranny thing since they don't have reading comprehension, but they have gone through female puberty and can actually speak on it unlike moids who try to shoehorn themselves into an experience they'll never have. tranny scrotes piss me off so much with shit like this, i can't see what they get out of it other than fetishistic pleasure and it's vile. i'm mostly butthurt because the ginger snaps films are very personal to me but this counts for any and all media that centers women and female experiences. rant over, sorry for the mini sperg my blood sugar tanked and made me to go into a rage kek.

No. 2164112

>>2163981
>>2163986
>>2163989
I don’t know if it’s the lighting or swelling or what but all of these look more masculine to me in the ‘after’ shots, assuming those are the ones on the right.

No. 2164131

>>2163981
>>2163984
>>2163989
The irony is that you can see in the face that some work has been done and immediately clocks them. 15k for looking the same but with a bonus uncanny valley effect that doesn't make you pass, the only winners are the butchers that do this shit and when their face will naturally sag, their cheek fillers will stay up and they will either look unnaturally deflated with silicone all over the place or like two balls with hanging skin and allergic reaction lips. A horror

No. 2164140

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>>2163981
Samefag, looked up this fraud and the clinic is called "2pass"
"To pass" yeah you wish https://2pass.clinic/en/before-and-after
Also notice how most troons have mythical/unusual names, makes me kek everytime.

No. 2164165

>>2164140
Louise I SWEAR I've seen in a Fallout game. Smoothskin…

No. 2164189

>>2164140
i literally cant tell which one is the before and after

No. 2164193

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this is gold nonny. Look at how the simulation doesnt have an adams apple and the end result adams apple is even bigger than the before. He also looked better before, he didnt look feminine but he looked like a teen boy, he just paid to make himself haggard.

No. 2164206

>>2164193
his adam apple is even bigger because in ffscams doctors shave their faces in a "Pug-ification" techinique so it's shorter but that makes a horrific optical illusion making their necks bigger holy shit
>>2164140
The list has at least two Dianas, a Selene, a Layla, Isis and Freya (strangely no Luna), they're so obsessed with the moon goddesses, which in many deity groups are also womanhood and sex goddesses, it's cringy, they don't make a single effort to pass. If I see a man with a pillow face called Luna I go yep, that's a mentally ill one, try to at least blend into normie women for fuck sake, stop living into your manic pixie dream and idk, call yourself Kayleigh or Brittany

No. 2164430

>>2163981
he looks more male post surgery because shortening his midface just made his nose look bigger and his chin look even longer. ears too big as well, like adam driver. they literally need to break every bone in the face and alter all cartilage structure but even after that something will be thrown out of balance. they always have more intense bpd eyes after surgery too, they psychologically traumatize themselves the more they do for what they all realize they can't have. why do all men think that they have no limitations on anything in life?

No. 2164438

>>2164430
i dont even think we can judge many differences from these pictures because they used a different lens so the before looks super goofy, also whats with putting befores on the right now? i dont get it.

No. 2164465

>>2164140
Those men paid actual money to have their faces cut up to look like THAT lmao but oh what a gold mine troons are

No. 2164487

>>2163741
It's time to grieve your loss and then move on nona. You have to realize gender ideology functions like an actual cult, that's not something people say just to insult them - it's the literal truth. People captured by a cult will NEVER leave it unless they themselves are the ones who start to question it to leave. No matter what you tell them, nor what evidence you show, they're just going to shut you out and call you a liar and refuse to see reason. They do not care about logic or truth because they did not arrive at their current mindset using logic or truth, they arrived there by strictly denying reality and logic.

It hurts so much to lose a friend over gender ideology, speaking as someone who has been in the same position. But you already lost them long ago. They're not the same person, they're not your friend - and they are the ones who made the decisions that led you both here. They decided that truth doesn't matter, they decided that living a lie and forcing everyone to lie and deny reality against their will is righteous and just. They became a toxic acolyte for a harmful ideology.

All you can do is focus on people around you not captured by the cult yet, use her as a sad example of how cruel and sad, and ridiculous, it is. I was clear with my family about why I cut ties with my former friends (who they knew), I used the friends own words and I explained why I didn't agree with them. They really do seem bat shit insane once you say it all out loud to normies. "She's mad that people won't call her a gay man and that they're saying her straight sex isn't gay sex. No really, she refuses to talk to her dad over this.", "He calls his dick a vagina and is calling real lesbians bigots, he's also posting death threats to women online, just like a real lady huh?".

No. 2164505

>>2164438
>also whats with putting befores on the right now?
I'm afraid that the afters are on the right…

No. 2164740

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Young gay guy correctly identifies how trans ideology is fundamentally conservative in nature, people in the comments agree,…and troon reddit mods lock it KEK

No. 2164743

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>>2164740
2/2 (repost bc my icon was visible oops)

No. 2165167

>>2164740
They could never handle this level of introspection and analysis on Reddit. If you don’t drink the trans koolaid you want them killed and genocided, there’s no in between.

No. 2165172

>>2164140
They look the same, just lifted eyebrows and greasy translucent skin.

No. 2165280

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>>2164743
found this comment while scrolling through that thread and I'm still confused on how these people think.
It's not a matter of "choice" because you either acknowledge your actual sex or try to deny it. and nonbinary is already seen to most gendies as a third gender option. I used to be a tif and call myself nonbinary, even partialling taking testosterone because I was dumb enough to think it would give me an ideal andro body but it doesn't work that way. "nonbinary" itself is a nothingburger of a label . If you can dress and act like your natal sex why go the need to call yourself nonbinary for exactly? you're still a man or woman conforming to your sex or not conforming to it. the change in label doesn't do shit

No. 2165292

>>2163981
>>2163986
>>2163989
They look even more masculine after the surgeries. I think it is because making some features smaller/rounder accentuates the rest. Even if you butcher and shave down every facial feature they still have a big man skull that will then look unnaturally huge.

No. 2165347

>>2164740
I'm glad posts like these are popping up more and more, and now people agree with it instead of it all being troons defending their ideology. People really are waking up

No. 2165378

>>2165347
They were quick to lock the comments kek.

No. 2165397

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Not a lesbian myself, but this post about lesbians was on my Instagram FYP. I opened the comments, and of course the top comment was some AGP asking why “so many lesbian women hate trans women,” despite the post having nothing to do with trans. All the replies were sucking him off. Sorry to all the lesbians who have to deal with this.

No. 2165420

>>2165397
Wait, just noticed that the original ”Sofia” who posted the tweet is also a tranny. Women can’t have anything, can we

No. 2165444

It really is best for everyone to remind themselves that gender ideology is a cult every now and then, because I keep getting amazed by how my handmaiden friends can be laughing at someone for being a cringey faggot for years but the moment they put the tranny flag in their profile next day they're suddenly happily "YAAAS GUUURL"ing said person all the way to the gay club. They aren't so bad that they'll bring up gender ideology very often, but if the conversation shifts even slightly in that direction it's like they're afraid of angering some hidden tranny in the walls in the way they're bending over backwards and almost over compensating both offline and online. Like what is it girl? Is the unholy troon ghost in the room? Quick, put some tampons in a cross formation and maybe they'll get triggered and leave to make an angry post chain on ghost twitter

No. 2165919

It's all so tiresome nonnies.
I felt like my life changed for the better when I started reading up on radfem (and detrans) discourse and realised I could be whoever I wanted to be, presented however I wanted, and acted however I wanted, regardless of my inherent female-ness. If anything, I embraced being a woman completely, as my biology is all it meant. Watching gendies jump through various hoops to try and arrive at the same destination a lot of radfem women have known and understood for decades is just so….. sad, and pathetic. Even more pathetic that when speaking to people I know about this I have to gently hold their hand through the process. It's funny to have conversations with theyfab women and be all "Oh I don't shave and wear no makeup and dress how I want" and they'll cheer me on, and then the second I follow with "and I'm still a woman" they seem confused, like I've broken something in their brains. Are we really at this point? Are we so deep in the bullshit that those two statements in succession make the average gender-confused woman want to resist what is so blatantly obvious?
Just a rant, but I'm so over it. I don't have any radfem friends irl (although I'm slowly peaking one) but I just wish more women could see through the bullshit.

No. 2166204

>>2161619
Exactly. They have it so easy with finding other men like themselves and yet still act like they're the ~real~ victims of loneliness, it's laughable. Another issue about connecting with other "weird" women for me is that a lot of them are just using it as an aesthetic since that's trendy nowadays, my depression isn't a marketeable quirky aesthetic so I end up feeling like I have nothing in common with most "mentally ill" women I see online, while men don't really have this problem as much. When you're a woman it's like you have to make even your lowest moments and depression palateable and still be fuckable and it's terrible.

And I believe this is actually part of why so many women are trooning out too, since if they do they more easily get access to a community of other "weird" women who also became troons. They no longer have to be mentally ill in a way that conforms to female beauty standards (being the mentally ill BPD goth gf or something) and instead can just be a gnc woman and find similar women more easily.
>>2165919
It really sucks being surrounded by people who can't see the obvious, it makes it hard to respect people or find them intelligent when they can't even see something that simple. There's that voice in my head saying "you are so stupid" when I remember they believe and support troons.

No. 2166296

>>2159974
>nona this woman has been parodying Dylan for at least a year now
AYRT, crap how do I not know lel
I like the kikomi Dylan parody better this woman's voice alone screams danger and if it's natural she's one goddamn unfortunate woman

>then misunderstand it and take personal offense to it, that is wild

No offense intended but yeah I've probably derailed and attempted armchairing

No. 2166304

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The way 80% of the reasons are related to men's pleasure says a lot.

No. 2166307

>>2166304
> Not a pretty sight
KEK

No. 2166311

>>2166304
Why doesn't he care about other troons who would kill themselves for inability to menstruate? Kek

No. 2166320

>>2159959
I'm sure a nona in a previous thread mentioned about bigger girls getting partially exempt from female socialization relative to smaller girls. Not only nona's sister is younger but also conventionally more feminine, female socialization becomes more acute to her that the only way out is to troon out.

It's like people sometimes have suicide thoughts because they are put in a claustrophobic situation.

No. 2166335

>>2166304
Any man that would meme himself into fucking the surgical wounds of another man is not a man I want anywhere near me or any other woman.

No. 2166339

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No. 2166349

>>2166304
>the dolls (us)
men will always be inferior to women. why do they see us as a threat so much that they think they can replace us? the audacity, it's one of the most delusional things i have ever seen. this man is
>CONVINCED
that stinkditches will replace women. i don't know why the fuck they are so threatened by the mere existence of women. what a pathetic loser. every time i see this sentiment, of how they just want to downright replace women and see themselves as superior just reeks of pure copium. they don't have a leg to stand on. fucking losers

No. 2166380

>>2166304
>periods are a huge inconvenience
Says the moid who has to dilate for the rest of his life. This post is just too stupid to bother replying to every point, but this one always gets me.

No. 2166389

>>2166304
Yet another example of HSTS copium kek

No. 2166399

>>2166304
Imagine thinking a surgery created mutilation of your natural body is better than nature. Trans shit would've never taken off if people realized they are not better than nature, it's just peak narcissism and not knowing your place as an animal (humans are still animals) and it makes them look pathetic. You are nothing but a mimicry of the real thing, attempting to create a botched version of nature. They should just accept it instead of trying to "overcome nature" it and pretending they're superior, every single TRA and tranny I know always has that mentality and it's what's at the core of all of this since they take it to the point where it becomes nonsensical and delusional like this. It's one thing to try to overcome nature by curing cancer and it's another to act like you can create things that aren't necessary and are objectively worse (that you've coped yourself into thinking are better). Reminds me of this annoying troon I know who claims he's going to have a better ass and tits than real women kek. It always just comes off like fags who are incredibly jealous of women for getting male attention but just like the troon in this post they want to pretend it's us that are the catty jealous ones. Women don't feel threatened by troons at all and they don't understand women criticizing them isn't out of jealousy (women are glad troons are taking away these secretly gay men who would fuck troons actually) and more so because of them creating these insulting caricatures of us and pretending a vagina's only use should be to be fucked like this guy for example. The way he tries to shove in that women passing gas, urine etc at the end is somehow a bad thing really illustrates that, any non retarded man wouldn't see that as a bad thing unless he's one of those losers who gets freaked out when he learns that women poop and pee (shocker). In which case he was gay anyway and he can go fuck the tranny if he so chooses. Ironic too considering how many stories there are about their "neo-vaginas" stinking

No. 2166442

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>>2166399
>this annoying troon I know who claims he's going to have a better ass and tits than real women
>pretending a vagina's only use should be to be fucked
Every time they compare their surgically created mimicry to the real thing they reveal their true beliefs, which is that women exist to be sexually attractive to and get fucked by men. In what way are silicone bags implanted underneath male nipples ‘better’ than real breasts? Do they produce more nutritious milk, which is the #1 function of breasts? No, they can’t produce milk at all. Do ass implants improve mobility or are they more comfortable to sit on than the real thing? No, they actually inhibit mobility and are uncomfortable, even painful. The only way anyone would consider fake breasts, fake asses and fauxginas better than the real thing is if they think those body parts exist for male pleasure, particularly the pleasure of males whose brains were hijacked by porn use to prefer supernormal stimuli. Those men are by definition terrible partners because they see women as objects and masturbatory aids rather than full people. HSTS think they’re robbing us by ‘stealing’ these men away but really they’re doing us a favour by picking the most rotten apples out of the barrel.

Pic related. Troons are arguing that the fake birds are better than the real ones because they provide more intense stimuli. Meanwhile, the hatchlings starve to death.

No. 2166466

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You’re at a dicksucking competition , but your opponent is an handmaiden

No. 2166469

>>2166442
Excluding functionality and whatnot, a biological female body will never be the same as a surgical one, Mother Nature didn’t do any mistake when making women.
The cope is extreme with these scrotes to the point that they always sound ridiculous. They’re busy thinking that it’s a competition when they’re not even part of the competition.
A Neo vagina at best is a hole with no muscles and no self lubrification.

No. 2166471

>>2166442
In this case the hatchlings most certainly do not starve to death because nobody wants to fuck post-op troons except for deranged gay/bisexual scrotes kek

No. 2166474

>>2166466
>Gender Is Over t-shirt
What makes a ‘trans woman’ a woman if not gender? What is the difference between a TIMs and any other male if not gender? JFC they can’t even be internally consistent.

No. 2166475

>>2166399
Kek they brag about getting straight men left and right but in the same breath they are complaining about men that only want to fuck and dip , chasers and how they’re lonely.

No. 2166485

>>2166304
Fistulas are so rare in the first place lol and a rectal-vaginal fistula is even more rare, they’re mostly associated with child birth aka traumatic events. The stinkditch has a much higher chance of complications though, from smell, hair, necrosis, granular tissue to fistulas. They can keep their smelly hole.

On another note I want to use this post to celebrate how powerful and resilient the female body. We literally have an ecosystem down there, that maintains itself. We have a specific organ made for the sole purpose of pleasure, how cool is that?
I wish medicine placed much more attention to female esclusive phenomenons, because we still have much to learn.

No. 2166648

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>>2166466
Do these people lose all their neurons when they drink the kool aid? Not a single thought inside that empty head.

No. 2166723

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No. 2166742

>>2166723
Has anyone else noticed that detrans spaces can be just as gender-obsessed as trans spaces? Her distress about being fucked over by doctors is valid, but even from people who didn't get the chop and were only on hormones for a few months, I'll see them post about how they're insecure because they're not able to conform well to their "new" (aka old/assigned) gender role. I thought detrans spaces would have less people posting things like "finally starting to feel like a woman!" followed by a person dressed in frills and a full face of makeup, but it's just more of the same.

No. 2166750

>>2166723
man, this just depresses me

No. 2166776

>>2166742
This is what it feels like for me, especially as a GNC woman. The whole point against the transgender movement is that it is convincing people to conform to ideas of gender. You don’t have to wear frills and makeup to “feel like a woman”, you are a woman, no matter what you do, whether you want to wear men’s clothes or engage in masculine hobbies, THAT’S the truth you reach when you learn sex is real, but gender is not. This woman could be dealing with the trauma of mutilating herself so it’s different, but still, to fixate on how her “boobs looked good too” is reminding me of other TIFs who’s “fix” is just conforming in the other direction, even if she isn’t necessarily an example of one. Also it just confuses me. Surely you trooned out because you related more to traditional “masculinity” or liked to present in a less feminine way? Why do they suddenly switch to being an ultra-feminine girly girl? It still fits the trans rhetoric. And which one is the real you?

No. 2166778

>>2166742
Yes, completely. But people prone to extreme viewpoints tend to jump from one phase to another rather than mellowing out, unfortunately. Hence why you see radqueers turn tradcath and vice versa.

No. 2166804

>>2166742
(last edit, sorry kek) It looks like most women who troon out are aligned on feminine values and have feminine worries, "conservative" aspirations etc. All of this becomes apparent after detransition. Plus it probably takes a long time to really recover from severe gender poisoning. Detransing goes a long way but some of the underlying emotional turmoil remains.
>They were great looking
Wanting to enjoy sexuality as a young person is normal, and part of it is being desirable (so you can attract partners). I notice that the detransers who are most concerned with being less 'hot' are really young and trooned/de-trooned early in life, regardless of sexual orientation. They fled sexuality (understandably, for a teenage girl/young woman in our day and age) before they could comfortably be sexual, with all the psychological benefits of aging: more confidence, caring less about bullshit, getting less negative attention from creeps etc. They probably feel like they missed out on something crucial.
>>2166778
Yep.

No. 2166818

>>2166776
Not wanting to have a gruesome mutilated chest for no reason isn't being a girly girly uwu, most not fucked in the head people want to have a healthy normal body. I don't think massively regretting a totally unnecessary mutilation done as a teen makes one not gnc.

No. 2166890

>>2166818
As I said
>This woman could be dealing with the trauma of mutilating herself so it’s different
Getting really sick of anons just not reading. I get that it was long but if you’re going to nitpick it’s the least you could do.

No. 2166925

>>2166304
there's a letter to the editor from the 1970's by a gay tranny that reads word-for-word like this thread except he calls biological women "genetic gennys." i love when they cast fistulas as being endemic to biological women and not a common side effect of SRS. i hope a lot of men take this propaganda to heart and get the neowound.

No. 2166928

>>2166349
it's a seethe and cope specific to gay men angry that they are denied access to straight men.

No. 2166945

>>2166890
Sorry I was distracted by your fanfic that women mourning who they were before wrecking themselves with surgery and drugs means they are ultrafeminine gender conforming girly girls

No. 2166951

>>2166723
This is sad. This is why moronic shit like top surgery should be illegal. Women are taking away perfectly good parts of themselves because of a trend of literal phase in their life. Most of them are brain washed by social media, tiktok, etc. She learned the hard way.

No. 2166957

>>2166945
I was agreeing with >>2166742 while it doesn’t apply to this instance, it’s simply untrue to pretend that this isn’t a phenomenon. Just go to any de-trans space. There is a large focus on being feminine, not being feminine enough to “be a woman” anymore, and feeling as though they have to wear makeup and conform in order to “be a woman”. This is the same thing that makes male troons think wearing makeup and putting on heels is what makes them a woman.
>>2166951
I don’t think it could ever be illegal, because it’s a cosmetic surgery in the end. What about women who want complete breast reductions? I think people would argue if you can get breast implants then you should be able to remove your breasts too, which isn’t unreasonable. But I guess that argument could pan to whether most body modification like plastic surgery should be illegal too, which I wouldn’t be opposed to to be completely honest.

No. 2167362

>>2166776
>Surely you trooned out because you related more to traditional “masculinity” or liked to present in a less feminine way?
There's a lot of ultra-feminine TIFs who want to be perceived as GNC men instead of gender conforming women, so not necessarily

No. 2167382

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>shocking

No. 2167832

>>2167382
I really wonder how these girls who do it to "shock" and to get attention react when you tell them "yeah you look like someone who goes by they/he, you literally look and act exactly like every they/he person I've met" which in my case would be 100% true

No. 2167852

>>2166742
>Has anyone else noticed that detrans spaces can be just as gender-obsessed as trans spaces?
Well, obviously. Detrans spaces are for support and for questioning, they've not yet reached the point where they've fully peaked and feel comfortable with their detrans bodies. They've spent years obsessing over "gender" so to turn it off without questioning it all first is pretty much impossible. It's a grieving process most of them have to go through.

As other anons have touched on a lot of girls troon out simply because they don't feel like they were good enough at being girls. They'd actually be happy to be girls IF they had been good, perfect girls. For example, they'd often be happy to be girls - if only their wide shoulders weren't so manly, if only their nose wasn't so big and unfeminine, if only their belly wasn't so fat, if only their boobs had been perky and perfect.
So they desperately try to escape from being a "failed" girl into a "normal" boy or enby "non-girl". Once they realize girls and women can actually be anything and they were never a failure they realize it was all in vain. They were always a "good enough" girl but through their own actions turned into the "not good enough" version they thought they were.
It's a bit complicated, yet easy to see once you spot the pattern.

No. 2167926

>>2167382
Imagine thinking so much about yourself and how others perceive you, how sad and pathetic.

No. 2168068

Sorry if this too much of a blogpost but
>study friend troons out
>he is naturally kinda small and feminine, seems shy and calls out other moids for being coomers
>think it is because he just didnt fit in with other moids
>kinda feel bad for him
>starts dressing in stuff like only a bra as a shirt, cat ears in public
>wont shut up about wanting to cut his dick off
>calls himself a lesbian, also wont shut up about it

…It is fetish. Every fucking time.

No. 2168522

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genuinely hate how trannies are actively ruining the English language (really just language in general)

No. 2168572

>>2165280
So this choice system has a default of non-binary? Which is both a choice and non-choice? It's a non-box even though there are 3 options and it's one of the options?
Imagine thinking this does fuck all to eliminate oppressive gender stereotypes. All it does is enforce it and allows people to delude themselves they're outside of it.

The op in that reddit post summed it up perfectly, it's not that people are categorised as X or Y it's that society attaches dump rules as to how people in those categories should behave or look.
>>2164740
I'm glad he worded it in a way that didn't mention 'trans ideology' or any buzzwords that would trigger an immediate accusation of being gender critical, even though it is literally gender critical.

No. 2168592

>>2164140
is he experimenting on prisoners or something? every single one of these men look like a serial killer rapist (before and after). horrifying.

No. 2168602

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>>2168522
>pants are he/him
>skirts are she/her

No. 2168699

>>2168602
So it’s a clown costume? When I doth the magic wizard robe everyone must now pretend I am a literal magic wizard?
These people are morons, clothes dictate nothing. When I take the dress and heels off, are the dress and heels still a woman? Does she have the right to vote? Can she apply for a loan? Of course not! It’s a bloody dress and heels.
If a man takes the dress and puts it on it does not convey to him magical femaleness, he is simply a man in a dress. The dress is now a man’s dress because a man owns the dress. Nothing about who he is changes just because he puts it on, he is still himself albeit himself with a boner, but nothing has fundamentally changed about who he is as a person.
Even if the man takes estrogen and gets implants or dons a big titty breast plate, he is still a man doing those things because those things aren’t magical. Nothing has changed about the person other then they are now doing those things, who they are as a person and biologically haven’t actually shifted and no amount of magical thinking, potions, spells or prayers to some cosmic power are going to change that for them.
They’re delusional, childish narcissists and it sucks that so many of them are people in the public eye and with power.

No. 2168733

>>2168068
I've seen so many like this too. The way they'll immediately turn into a degenerate and expose how they really see women when previously they just seemed like shy unassuming guys who were "one of the good ones" (lol) feels like they're actually just men who repressed their moidier traits until they had a different outlet to let them out on. Essentially since they didn't feel "masculine" enough they couldn't hate on women like the other guys who just say they hate women, they try to project it onto themselves by trooning out and showing their misogyny by saying they're a weak little girl which is what they feel like they're capable of due to not feeling masculine, which is even worse. It also seems to stem from guilt at being a male initially but then they show their true colors and rather than trying to be a better man BECAUSE other men are bad, they just choose to "opt out" entirely to not be part of the group like the losers they are and reinforce harmful gender stereotypes about women while also being insanely homophobic. All while they pretend they support women and love lesbians too… It's so disgusting
>>2168602
How anyone doesn't clock this shit as insanely regressive at this point is beyond me

No. 2168758

>>2168733
>How anyone doesn't clock this shit as insanely regressive at this point is beyond me
this is the part that gets me, i feel like if anyone posted this even just 10-15 years ago everyone would be calling them out for their blatant sexism but now that it's rebranded as progressive it's cool i guess?

No. 2168899

>>2168068
>calls out other moids for being coomers
Every time. I know so many troons like this. When they call out other moids it's 100% because they're bitter and feel cheated for being at the bottom of the male hierarchy.
>>2168733
>they just choose to "opt out" entirely to not be part of the group like the losers they are
Yep. They bypass things like male competition and having to prove your worth as a partner by trooning out (on top of indulging their AGP/humiliation fetish). Being the one male in a group of women who are in denial about your sex is a really effective sexual strategy for a moid. They often end up trying to sleep with their entire 'friend' circle as a result of having zero competition

No. 2169090

>>2168522
kindergarten tier logic

No. 2169151

>see a fandom post listing proof that a character is trans
>it's literally a list of social anxiety symptoms the character has
>nothing remotely about gender
>the post doesn't even try to explain why these traits mean she's trans
Is this really where we're at now? Anyone who's ever been unhappy or felt out of place for any reason is trans?

No. 2169158